The Story So Far....

Shutdown the country for the Wuhan flu
Attack anyone who points out its origin as “racist”
Pork laden “stimulus” that does nothing
Small businesses close by the millions, corporations and the wealthy make unprecedented bank
Media lies constantly to prop up an unpopular, senile old man
Election fraud
Big tech censors and deplatforms anyone who descents from their POV
Courts refuse their Constitutionally mandated responsibility
Capitol “occupation” declared a “terrorist” attack after 12 months of ignoring Antifa riots
Sham impeachment
DOJ starts arresting people for posting memes online
Wall Street changes the rules to protect those who've made billions by manipulating the markets from loss while at the same time prevent “normies” from making millions by manipulating the markets (and I gotta tell you, the “autistic retards” (their term) of /WBS aren't backing down and the teeming millions of Asia now want in on the action)
Elizabeth Warren, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Donald Trump Jr and Ted Cruz all agree with and support each other on social media about Wall Street's actions.

Everyone up to speed? Good. So, anyone want to guess what comes next?

Nah, we're Americans. Our version goes like this:

"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

Posted by: WeirdDave at 02:56 PM

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1 /plants tattered yet proud flag

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Time to sign on with the Crimson Permanent Assurance at February 02, 2021 02:56 PM (OUMaO)

2 How's it hangin' y'all?

Posted by: Brett Farve's Crocs at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (DupXx)

3 Sen. Joe Manchin, D-W.Va., bowed to immense pressure Tuesday and announced he would vote in favor of a budget resolution Sen. Majority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., brought forward Monday that should lay the groundwork for President Biden $1.9T Covid relief package.

Manchin said he would vote in favor of the budget resolution but would continue to fight for bipartisanship in the process of negotiations.

What a preditable cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (85Gof)

4 Foist?

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (icI8A)

5 *plays fife*

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (yQpMk)

6 "Intolerable Acts"

Posted by: hogmartin at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (t+qrx)

7 Present

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (3H9h1)

8 Manchin said he would vote in favor of the budget resolution but would continue to fight for bipartisanship in the process of negotiations.

But he's a moderate

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (Zmnko)

9 There's nothing wrong with our government that getting rid of the leftard slime that currently infests it won't cure.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (HaL55)

10 Navalny sentenced to 2 years and 8 months in prison - Biden admin should be right on that, since they're going to be super tough on Putin, right?

Oh, I see, they released a statement of "deep concern."

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (icI8A)

11 Yep. What he said in 1776, or thereabouts

Posted by: Cicero kaboom! Kid after a nightbof Budweiser, pickled eggs and wet burritos at the pub at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (n/szn)

12 If Ashlie Babbit were an Antifa protestor killed during a city takeover and small business BBQ, the nation would be riven by mass protests in every major city, and the DOJ would have long since indicted the cop who shot her and all his near relations would be in Witness Protection.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (wqtxH)

13 You never hear anyone ask where this money will come from anymore. It's mind boggling.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (yQpMk)

14 WTF?? WeirdDave?? Is it Thursday night already??

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (mZUr4)

15 Nice trick, but I ain't watchin no damn musical.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (xfb67)

16 Damn that Manchin is a patriot, dusty in here.

Posted by: Rando East Texas Poster at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (QZ/dC)

17 Dear God. It's "dissent" my man.

Save "descent" for when Democrats "descent" into hell.

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (VpIIl)

18 What comes next? An ever pressing threat of "rightwing extremism" and "insurrection" which requires more and more draconian government intervention to keep it under control.
I guarantee the FL pedo who shot the FBI agents will be a "rightwing extremist"

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (dNzKv)

19 10% Flat Tax on Income and sick the FBI on Federal Employees and their Families as well as for Federal Contracts.

Posted by: garrett at February 02, 2021 03:01 PM (DupXx)

20 (Fattens sqwerls as secindary food source)

Im ready.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at February 02, 2021 03:01 PM (n/szn)

21 WTF?? WeirdDave?? Is it Thursday night already??
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM (mZUr4)

It's, uh, a metaphor. What WeirdDave is saying is that the hour may be later than we realize.

Posted by: hogmartin, who wasn't paying attention in class at February 02, 2021 03:01 PM (t+qrx)

22 Fight and die as free men and women or live as slaves. We are rapidly approaching that point in our history.

Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (gmo/4)

23 >>>President Biden $1.9T Covid relief package

Clown world money.

Posted by: JebPilled at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (QUqEV)

24 I hope you're right, Weird Dave.

I'll take war over rule by corrupt Oligarchs.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Logan Tiberius Edwards (2012-2021) at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (ifmtJ)

25 I think the next thing that comes down the pipe, and I hope I'm not giving them any ideas, is that they're going to come after your 401ks and IRAs...

I'm betting that idea gets floated somewhere after gun control and before free train rides to the CDC camps.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (4VafR)

26 Alien landing has a good shot as next

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (9d4A3)

27
10% Flat Tax on Income and sick the FBI on Federal Employees and their Families as well as for Federal Contracts.
Connect that to a balanced-budget law with real teeth and prison sentences for even daring to suggest spending a penny of taxpayer's money over that and you got yourself a deal.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (HaL55)

28 Capitol "occupation" declared a "terrorist" attack after 12 months of ignoring Antifa riots

You didn't list how many time the LEFT actually OCCUPIED the Capitol illegally.
1. Kavanaugh hearing
2.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (lmYrx)

29 Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (Zmnko)

National Review hardest hit.

Posted by: thathalfrican - The One at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (a8b7P)

30 Oh, I see, they released a statement of "deep concern."

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (icI8A)

==================
what they really mean is that if Putin can send Navalny into the Gulag for two years then so can a law-abiding fascist administration like the Biden junta.

The cry goes up from inside the conertina wire around the Capital: Two years for all Trump voters!

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (wqtxH)

31 Americans don't want handouts. They want the dignity of work.

But you continue to steal people's livelihoods and believe your silver will buy their loyalty.

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (VpIIl)

32 The word oligarchs is boring
How about calling them soyligarchs?

Posted by: Herr Frau Doctor vmom Staunch Demofaszi at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (nUhF0)

33 It's, uh, a metaphor. What WeirdDave is saying is that the hour may be later than we realize.
Posted by: hogmartin, who wasn't paying attention in class at February 02, 2021 03:01 PM (t+qrx)

=============

I thought he was saying that we left that England place because it was bogus. So if we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto -- we'll just be bogus too.

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (mZUr4)

34 Starve the Beast.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (03n3v)

35 The Battle of Capital Hill will go down in military history as a hard won victory for Communism

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (Cxk7w)

36 12 If Ashlie Babbit were an Antifa protestor killed during a city takeover and small business BBQ, the nation would be riven by mass protests in every major city, and the DOJ would have long since indicted the cop who shot her and all his near relations would be in Witness Protection.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (wqtxH)

Perhaps the fact that we don't do this is the reason we're in this mess.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (XxJt1)

37 You didn't list how many time the LEFT actually OCCUPIED the Capitol illegally.

Now they occupy it seemingly legally.

What ya gonna do? *shrug*

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (4VafR)

38 I think the next thing that comes down the pipe, and I hope I'm not giving them any ideas, is that they're going to come after your 401ks and IRAs...

I'm betting that idea gets floated somewhere after gun control and before free train rides to the CDC camps.
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix

Pro tip: Never take everything a man has and has worked for all his life.

Because then he has nothing to lose.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (lmYrx)

39 The left. How mightily they do suck.

Posted by: F. Liberty Gibbet at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (SchQD)

40 That's a long train of abuses.

Posted by: 4 at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (KnJdm)

41 26 Alien landing has a good shot as next

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (9d4A3)

And then the aliens tell us they left us a message just like the goofballs on TV have been saying.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (xfb67)

42 What comes next? A musical? Fabulous!

Posted by: 80's music fan at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (glGDV)

43 Compare hunt for/arrest of Ashli Babbitt's murderer, and the almost immediate arrest and prosecution of Kyle Rittenhouse's self defense shooting of an Antifa thug.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (ZD+J8)

44 If it gets to the point where they start sniffing about your 401k, you may want to consider taking the hit and pulling some of it out. I don't think they will get away with it yet though. It was floated over in Europe and they weren't able to do it there.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (5HBd1)

45 The cry goes up from inside the conertina wire around the Capital: Two years for all Trump voters!
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at February 02, 2021 03:03 PM (wqtxH)

The jokes on them, my absentee Trump vote got lost in the mail.

I wish the rest of yous the best of luck, though.

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (KbCG3)

46 I pretty much never call anyone a hero, but I'll say Navalny has some titanium huevos - he could have tried to escape extradition the rest of his life. Instead, he returned to an almost certain jail sentence, and maybe a de facto death sentence, hoping to fire up some revolutionary sentiment in his people. Godspeed, comrade.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (icI8A)

47 He's now got lots, and lots, of company, but after his various weaselings (apologies to Weasel) and especially his Brezhnev-at-a-hockey-game* performance at that SOTU where he stood to applaud some Trump line - then glanced over fearfully at the limp pieces of human garbage (Schumer et al) giving him the stink-eye, and meekly sat down, Manchin is really the poster boy for comically pathetic empty suits now "ruling" America.

* late Russian language tutor was at a big game - probably Central Army vs. Spartak or Dynamo - in Moscow, Brezhnev in attendance, and the game just sort of .... stopped, no whistles, when Brezhnev got up to leave/go to the head, whatever he was doing. He said it was the most degrading and revealing moment in a life-time of observing such moments as a Soviet citizen.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 02, 2021 03:05 PM (OTzUX)

48 *types*
*deletes*

Grrrrrrr.

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (nakwk)

49 When will Global CE5 meditations begin?
Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (uc+oy)

50 Navalny sentenced to 2 years and 8 months in prison -
Biden admin should be right on that, since they're going to be super
tough on Putin, right?

Oh, I see, they released a statement of "deep concern."

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (icI8A)

Ah, Hashtag Diplomacy returns.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (uhPTO)

51 What comes next? Bootyjudge is a cabinet secretary and wants COVID anal swabs? Fabulous!

Posted by: 80's music fan at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (glGDV)

52 It's, uh, a metaphor. What WeirdDave is saying is that the hour may be later than we realize.
Posted by: hogmartin

Checks clock. Crap. It's only 2:05. I don't get off until 3:30.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (lmYrx)

53 What comes next? A musical? Fabulous!
Posted by: 80's music fan at February 02, 2021 03:04 PM (glGDV)

===============

At least a good musical number. Works for The Simpsons, Family Guy -- even Phineas and Ferb. Please tell me I'm not the only Phineas and Ferb fan around here.

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (mZUr4)

54 With a superb post like this, I most definitely owe WeirdDave a beer.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (sy5kK)

55 >>>I think the next thing that comes down the pipe, and I hope I'm not giving them any ideas, is that they're going to come after your 401ks and IRAs...

Too late. I'm out. I expect to be hearing about the "unfair privilege" of being able to save money for retirement very soon.

Posted by: JebPilled at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (QUqEV)

56 I didn't end up watching all of Les Miserables, because the first bit was so awful. Did Amanda Seyfried and/or Anne Hathaway get nekkid?

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (h5TKJ)

57 Things are fucked up now

Posted by: DB- just DB. at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (uji7s)

58 When companies started wiping out pensions in favor of 401k's they forgot to take into consideration the fact that the average Joe would think that money was his.

I'm thinking the hill to die on has a $ on top of it.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (XxJt1)

59 Americans may not want it but another handout is coming like a freight train. Of course with it lots of handouts to Democrats friends.

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (Cxk7w)

60 Big tech censors and deplatforms anyone who descents from their POV

---

descents - dissents

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (RU4sa)

61 They won't like us when we get angry.

Posted by: setnaffa at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (eaJqd)

62 No, wait! Area 51 anal swab test tech released by the Department of Transportation? Fabulous!

Posted by: 80's music fan at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (glGDV)

63 hiya

Posted by: JT at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (arJlL)

64 The GOP wants a $900 million stimulus package and no city or state bailouts.

Democrats want a $2 billion dollar drop for their donors and all the Blue States.

Let's see if the GOP abandons us...again.

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (VpIIl)

65 Worse part of The Miserables was its a musical

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (Cxk7w)

66 To paraphrase one of my all-time favorite movie quotes, from The Way of the Gun...

Trillions of dollars isn't money, it's a motive with a universal adapter.

Posted by: davidt at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (l3+k2)

67 *sorry, Democrats want $2 trillion

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (VpIIl)

68 Let's see if the GOP abandons us...again.
Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (VpIIl)

You mean lets see if they even bother with failure theater anymore or if they just hate us too much to bother.

Posted by: Inogame at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (yVv6t)

69 Les Deplorables....

FIFY

Posted by: Jak Sucio at February 02, 2021 03:09 PM (jvt6t)

70 Les Miserables is French for "Lame is Rob"

#TheMoreYouKnow

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 03:09 PM (4VafR)

71 Two broken windows and a schmuck in a buffalo costume.

Causus belli, right there. It's on, now. You conservatives done crossed a line. It's Go Time.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:09 PM (OssQ4)

72 The GOP wants a $900 million stimulus package and no city or state bailouts.

Democrats want a $2 billion dollar drop for their donors and all the Blue States.

Let's see if the GOP abandons us...again.
Posted by: Marcus T,

Bwahahahahahahaha

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:09 PM (lmYrx)

73 "Oh, I see, they released a statement of "deep concern.""

Do you want him to get involved? None of our business what Russia does or doesn't do to that Navalny guy.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 02, 2021 03:09 PM (qH6FZ)

74

The spread of the highly contagious coronavirus variant first identified in Britain is sparking worry about a future surge in Southern California, one of the nation's two hot spots of the strain.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 03:10 PM (63Dwl)

75 As long as the GOPe knows they are on the losing side of a vote they will be for it.

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2021 03:10 PM (ZNh0G)

76 The GOP wants a $900 million stimulus package

Wasn't there just one?

Are you not stimulated?

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (h5TKJ)

77 I pray we go the route of "When in the course...". I fear it will be more "Les Miserables" simply because our enemy has dug in like ticks and will need to be burned up utterly to remove them.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (946rW)

78 I got nothing, everyone beat me to all the great comments already, ya patriotic infidels.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (qZdIZ)

79 At least a good musical number. Works for The Simpsons, Family Guy -- even Phineas and Ferb. Please tell me I'm not the only Phineas and Ferb fan around here.
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (mZUr4)

Hey! Where's Perry?

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (nakwk)

80 Who would have guessed that Les Mis�rables is really about 2021 USA?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (sy5kK)

81 sorry, Democrats want $2 trillion

Fuckit...why not a kajillion zillion
Everybody just start copying and printing your own money
What's the difference

Posted by: DB- just DB. at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (uji7s)

82 We all agree that we support the GOP to ensure Constitution defending Supreme Court Justices, right?

*ducks*

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (SMITj)

83 >>>What comes next? A musical? Fabulous!<

> A cabaret, dear Liza.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (03n3v)

84 Manchin said he would vote in favor of the budget resolution but would continue to fight for bipartisanship in the process of negotiations.

What a preditable cunt
Posted by: Nevergiveup at February 02, 2021 02:57 PM (85Gof)

was there ever ANY doubt? i know we have hope that once in a bloody while he will wake up, but he's never getting off the plantation. he like DC too much to go home. "bipartisanship *spits* it simply means R's doing what the commies want...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (8D42x)

85 Where the fuck was our ape post today?

Posted by: Dogbert at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (+dTjI)

86 I just got a call from the Ted Cruz campaign begging for money. I have to say that was the best 5 minutes of my life. I'm sure they'll never make the mistake of calling me again. I need a cigarette and glass of wine.

Posted by: spypeach at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (Up/Jb)

87
The spread of the highly contagious coronavirus variant first identified in Britain is sparking worry about a future surge in Southern California, one of the nation's two hot spots of the strain

Love the story I read where they said it is not only easier to catch, it "may" be more deadly... Thanks for the fear mongering

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (Zmnko)

88 Are Russians "Putriotic"?

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (OssQ4)

89 Where the fuck was our ape post today?

Two ape posts tomorrow.

Apes together strong!

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (4VafR)

90 The hijacking on the 401 retirement funds will be when govt borrowing collapses as an emergency measure.

Right now, the regime is planning on exploding govt spending via borrowing which entails less problems politically.

Essentially, via borrowing, the government is basically monetizing the debt and turning into a rentier state. Historically, the major control of the people versus kings, presidents, etc. has been the power of the purse which means consent of the governed necessary for tax increases. A rentier state uses outside resources to finance government and as a result is not democratic in practice.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (pO7gM)

91 59 Americans may not want it but another handout is coming like a freight train. Of course with it lots of handouts to Democrats friends.
Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (Cxk7w)

I was reading this morning that Dems are pissed at Joey because he promised them 2k but is now deducting the last $600 from that. They'll get 1.4k and they're not happy.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (XxJt1)

92 64 The GOP wants a $900 million stimulus package and no city or state bailouts.

Democrats want a $2 billion dollar drop for their donors and all the Blue States.

Let's see if the GOP abandons us...again.
Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:08 PM (VpIIl)

Can you be abandoned by something that was never with you to begin with?

Posted by: The Central Scrutinizer at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (KbCG3)

93 This probably fits better on the downstairs thread but my own little act of resistance is that I am not going to buy anything this month unless its from a rock solid conservative. (Epoch Times, gab subscription, my pillow are ok and groceries, gas, etc. excepted).

F' the rest of 'em. You want to cancel me? I cancel you .

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:13 PM (Ed8Zd)

94 89 Where the fuck was our ape post today?

Two ape posts tomorrow.

Apes together strong!
Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (4VafR)

Why do you ask, Two Apes Fucking?

Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 02, 2021 03:13 PM (nakwk)

95 Couldn't Biden just tell Putin to knock it off?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:13 PM (kTF2Z)

96 "Do you want him to get involved? None of our business what Russia does or doesn't do to that Navalny guy.

Posted by: lowandslow at February 02, 2021 03:09 PM (qH6FZ)"

If Russia is truly our great geopolitical threat, you'd think our brilliant foreign policy wonks would at least want to sanction them over jailing a political opposition dissident.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:13 PM (icI8A)

97 Hey! Where's Perry?
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (nakwk)

=======

Thanks, Insom! BTW - my nic is actually not inspired by P&F. Just a fortunate coincidence that occurred in the tri-state area

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:13 PM (mZUr4)

98 I was reading this morning that Dems are pissed at Joey because he promised them 2k but is now deducting the last $600 from that. They'll get 1.4k and they're not happy.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (XxJt1)

And those payments are only a tiny part of the 1.9 trillion.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (xfb67)

99 Please tell me I'm not the only Phineas and Ferb fan around here.

No, no you're not.

Posted by: Oddbob at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (qc+VF)

100 Let's see if the GOP abandons us...again.
Posted by: Marcus T

You misspelled Gop.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (KAi1n)

101 Link to pissed Dems...

tinyurl.com/c440lyr6

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (XxJt1)

102 "Couldn't Biden just tell Putin to knock it off?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:13 PM (kTF2Z)"

He can tell him he'll be more flexible after the next election.

Actually, due to rigor mortis, he'll probably be more rigid.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (icI8A)

103 77 redbanzai, The ticks are concentrated--take a look at the wealthiest counties in America and where they are located.

Classic core and periphery stuff. The periphery suffers while the core does quite well for itself by extracting the wealth of the periphery.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (pO7gM)

104 This is a real addition to Democrats "stimulus". They want to add the American Opportunity Accounts Act. this is legislative socialism. It mandates that every child receive a savings account at birth. They would get a set amount each year based on income up to 18 years old where they are eligible for $46,000.

That's $46,000 of your tax money for doing absolutely nothing.

See how this works?

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

105 The GOP wants a $900 million stimulus package and no city or state bailouts.

Democrats want a $2 billion dollar drop for their donors and all the Blue States.

Let's see if the GOP abandons us...again.

--

Why on earth would the D's negotiate anything with those wusses? They are in steamroller mode and that will be that. They'll get exactly what they want and give it to exactly who they want. And the R's will just go, "yes, dear." I have no idea why I'm so cynical...

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (O+I8R)

106 89 Where the fuck was our gape post today?

fify

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (zZxh0)

107 Actually, due to rigor mortis, he'll probably be more rigid.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (icI8A)

And then gassy and bloated.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (xfb67)

108 Forwarding The Declaration these days is probably deemed domestic extremism and gets you on the no-fly, no-pew-pew list.

Posted by: Zek at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (w/5KC)

109 Phineas and Ferb would find a cool cure for COVID-19 that didn't involve hysteria or mauled freedoms.

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (SMITj)

110 The spread of the highly contagious coronavirus
variant first identified in Britain is sparking worry about a future
surge in Southern California, one of the nation's two hot spots of the
strain

Love the story I read where they said it is not only easier to catch, it "may" be more deadly... Thanks for the fear mongering

Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (Zmnko)

In order to stop the spread, California officials have recommended burying the new strain under $200 billion in stimulus money from the federal government.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (uhPTO)

111 Punk monkey? Won't be seeing him no more.

Posted by: Special Agent Clemenza at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (kTF2Z)

112 CalPERS is world's largest pension fund
So too big to fail.
90% into various markets and they are all levitated on Fed pumping of near zero interest borrowed money.

You know it has to end badly.

Historically means war.

Posted by: torabora at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (ZNh0G)

113 No, no you're not.
Posted by: Oddbob at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (qc+VF)
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Behold - my Fistbump-inator!

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (mZUr4)

114 91 59 Americans may not want it but another handout is coming like a freight train. Of course with it lots of handouts to Democrats friends.
Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:07 PM (Cxk7w)

I was reading this morning that Dems are pissed at Joey because he promised them 2k but is now deducting the last $600 from that. They'll get 1.4k and they're not happy.
Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (XxJt1)

Don't you just love it when they declare fiscal responsibility by lowering the amount the taxpayers get, but up the amount we ship overseas for God-knows-what?

We aren't quite that stupid, despite the years of educational rot.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (okGHj)

115 Gop sounds like a nasty disease. Came down with a festering case of the gop.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (OssQ4)

116 I know a guy named Phineas - "Phineas Baxandale". He's a real person, even has a wiki entry.

Posted by: SFGoth at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (KAi1n)

117 98 and of course the GOPe is too stupid to put out ads to those disaffected voters that the new stimulus will screw these voters in favor of the wealthy donor class of the Dems.

It is because the GOPe often shares the same donors at the leadership level.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (pO7gM)

118 Funny thing about The Epoch Times - they're a front for the Falun Gong. I don't think I ever expected the Falun Gong to be at the tip of the spear for defending American traditional values. But hey, enemy of my enemy - the FG are some of the few people who hate the CCP as much as we do.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (icI8A)

119 I was reading this morning that Dems are pissed at Joey because he promised them 2k but is now deducting the last $600 from that. They'll get 1.4k and they're not happy.
Posted by: creeper

AND immediately might be April, might be later. I'm thinking a lot of people spent those two thousand dollars around the third week of January.

LOFuckingL.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (lmYrx)

120 The dems stimulus bill also makes mail in voting permanent.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (xfb67)

121 And then gassy and bloated.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (xfb67)

Oops. Too late.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (okGHj)

122 That's $46,000 of your tax money for doing absolutely nothing.

See how this works?
Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

Seems pretty cheap to give up our human dignity and freedom.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (Ed8Zd)

123 Phineas and Ferb would find a cool cure for COVID-19 that didn't involve hysteria or mauled freedoms.
Posted by: callsign claymore at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (SMITj)

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Hmmm - Was Candace misnamed? She should have been named Karen

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

124 At least a good musical number. Works for The Simpsons, Family Guy -- even Phineas and Ferb. Please tell me I'm not the only Phineas and Ferb fan around here.
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (mZUr4)

Hey! Where's Perry?
Posted by: Insomniac - Zhou Bai-Den Is Not My Chairman at February 02, 2021 03:11 PM (nakwk)

he's a platypus, they don't do much...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (8D42x)

125 This is a real addition to Democrats "stimulus". They want to add the American Opportunity Accounts Act. this is legislative socialism. It mandates that every child receive a savings account at birth. They would get a set amount each year based on income up to 18 years old where they are eligible for $46,000.

--

Sweet Jesus...

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (O+I8R)

126 "Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (O+I8R)"

The Fraud and Thief wants it to be "bipartisan" so they get a fig leaf for their party member bailouts. The one single thing the GOP could do is deny them that cover.

It's very simple. You say no.

The problem is the GOP lost their balls and the women have bigger ones then people like McConnell.

Let them pass it. On their own with zero Republican votes

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (VpIIl)

127 My prediction next year is 30% inflation on basic goods. Or price controls and empty shelves.
And it will get worse from there.
Biden/CCP are doing all they can.
I saw all this crap in the 70's.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (sy5kK)

128 Navalny sentenced to 2 years and 8 months in prison - Biden admin should be right on that, since they're going to be super tough on Putin, right?

**

Is he the leader of the opposition political party that the people in power harassed, attacked, and jailed?

If only Biden knew!

Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (HBEnm)

129 104 Marcus T, too little too late, the financial collapse into monopoly money will occur before that child turns 18.

The question is when, not if, we (and the rest of the western world) goes through a financial sovereign debt crisis. The Dems seem to be hurrying it up substantially for some reason.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (pO7gM)

130 CalPERS is world's largest pension fund
So too big to fail. 90% into various markets and they are all levitated on Fed pumping of near zero interest borrowed money.
You know it has to end badly.
Historically means war.
Posted by: torabora

Who is fey California gonna fight?

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (lmYrx)

131 We aren't quite that stupid, despite the years of educational rot.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (okGHj)

And if the Redditers are any indicator, we're getting smarter by the day.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (XxJt1)

132 Please tell me I'm not the only Phineas and Ferb fan around here.
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:06 PM (mZUr4)

Doofenshmirts evil incorporated!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (Vxu+H)

133 That's $46,000 of your tax money for doing absolutely nothing.

See how this works?
Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

Just consider it a pre-molested by a democrat politician settlement. You're going to urn that one kiddos.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (xfb67)

134 Came down with a festering case of the gop.

Side effects of Unipariticim include blurred vision, dry mouth, severe diarrhea, and gop.

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (h5TKJ)

135 So is the Myanmar coup over yet? Surely the participants already took all their photos, moved some chairs and podiums, and then left. That's how coups work.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:19 PM (icI8A)

136 Doofenshmirtz = Fauci?

Evil Incorporated = CDC?

We were warned!

Posted by: callsign claymore at February 02, 2021 03:19 PM (SMITj)

137 latest GME bullshit is the shorts were already covering before the redditors ever came in

Posted by: REDACTED at February 02, 2021 03:19 PM (zZxh0)

138 Now, between Covid immunizations, and people who have had Covid in the US...

20% of the population won't get the vids or spread it.

Why are we still on total mask mandates?

Posted by: Romeo13 at February 02, 2021 03:19 PM (oHd/0)

139 Seems to me those Men in 1776 had a press which reported the truth. So they had that going for them.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (r1z5A)

140 Side effects of Unipariticim include blurred vision, dry mouth, severe diarrhea, and gop.
Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:18 PM (h5TKJ)

Spontaneous human combustion....projectile diarrhea, .....

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (okGHj)

141 Don't you just love it when they declare fiscal responsibility by lowering the amount the taxpayers get, but up the amount we ship overseas for God-knows-what?

We aren't quite that stupid, despite the years of educational rot.
Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM

As much as people focus on the money being "shipped overseas" (which I would contend is a money laundering op, more or less), I wish people would look at that whole bill. It was absolute garbage. Forget the money going overseas for a moment. Just because money is being spent here doesn't mean it isn't being completely pissed away.

No matter where the money went, it was total crap.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (49Dnm)

142 122 That's $46,000 of your tax money for doing absolutely nothing.
See how this works?
Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (VpIIl)
Seems pretty cheap to give up our human dignity and freedom.
Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (Ed8Zd)

And believe that EVERY illegal crossing the border will also get that amount.

Pay attention: Our money supply is rapidly becoming worthless with this CCP-contrived shutdown and fake money scattering.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (sy5kK)

143 Save your next grocery receipt. Have it laminated. Show it to the kiddos in ten years when they don't believe you.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (OssQ4)

144 Gop sounds like a nasty disease. Came down with a festering case of the gop.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist

It is, and the only cure is bash it with a cowbell until it's dead Jim. (But keep giving the Rethuglican party respect by calling it the G.O.P. And don't give me "GOPe" - no one outside of anyone who already despises the Gop knows what the fuck this means.)

Posted by: SFGoth at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (KAi1n)

145 Funny thing about The Epoch Times - they're a front for the Falun Gong. I don't think I ever expected the Falun Gong to be at the tip of the spear for defending American traditional values. But hey, enemy of my enemy - the FG are some of the few people who hate the CCP as much as we do.
Posted by: Broseidon at February 02

The ET seem Christian in their editorial content and general tenor of coverage. But either way, good reporting is incredibly rare and they have it.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (Ed8Zd)

146 Navalny sentenced to 2 years and 8 months in prison - Biden admin should be right on that, since they're going to be super tough on Putin, right?

Is he the leader of the opposition political party that the people in power harassed, attacked, and jailed?

If only Biden knew!
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government

Wait until Josef Stolin finds out!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (lmYrx)

147 "... a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

-----

Reason #1: Because, fuck you!

Reason #2: But first you will blow me ... and

Reason #3: See Reasons #1 and #2.

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (fGud3)

148 127 LeftCoastDawg, you would be right on staples, but basically the idea is that cheap consumer goods will flow in from foreign trade to balance the inflation rate.

Conservative Treehouse has a pretty good handle on what the game plan of the transnational corporations and bankers are up to. Extract the domestic wealth (using price discrimination) and spread it via inflation etc. to the world and rake off a large percentage as grift of the flows.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:21 PM (pO7gM)

149 139 Seems to me those Men in 1776 had a press which reported the truth. So they had that going for them.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (r1z5A)

Actually it was pretty cut-throat and biased then. People published outright lies. But their reach was small.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:21 PM (xfb67)

150 @25
I think the next thing that comes down the pipe, and I hope I'm not
giving them any ideas, is that they're going to come after your 401ks
and IRAs...

- - - - -

The Dems have already suggested this. The first time I saw it mentioned was early in Obama's first term (or possibly even late in Dubya's second term, after the Republicans lost Congress). The intent was to start with Roth accounts, since "only rich people have those".

Posted by: junior at February 02, 2021 03:21 PM (2tE4x)

151 Don't take Uniparticim if you are allergic to Uniparticim.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:21 PM (OssQ4)

152 This is a real addition to Democrats "stimulus". They want to add the American Opportunity Accounts Act. this is legislative socialism. It mandates that every child receive a savings account at birth. They would get a set amount each year based on income up to 18 years old where they are eligible for $46,000.

That's $46,000 of your tax money for doing absolutely nothing.

See how this works?
Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:14 PM (VpIIl)

so what about all of us who are over 18? or those born but not 18, dos everyone get a 46k check?

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 02, 2021 03:21 PM (8D42x)

153 Phineas and Ferb would find a cool cure for COVID-19 that didn't involve hysteria or mauled freedoms.
Posted by: callsign claymore at February 02, 2021 03:15 PM (SMITj)

=========

Hmmm - Was Candace misnamed? She should have been named Karen
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (mZUr4)

sometimes i worry about you Candace...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 02, 2021 03:22 PM (8D42x)

154 Please tell me I'm not the only Phineas and Ferb fan around here.
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund)

****

There's a cute (and fun) ipad and probably android physics game based on it. Where's my Perry is the name IIRC.

Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at February 02, 2021 03:22 PM (HBEnm)

155 If only Biden knew!
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government

Wait until Josef Stolin finds out!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (lmYrx)

Putin wouldn't even have to get out of his chair to deal with that little peterhead.

Posted by: tcn in AK, Hail to the Thief at February 02, 2021 03:22 PM (okGHj)

156 They would get a set amount each year based on income up to 18 years old where they are eligible for $46,000.

College Tuition Mysteriously Increases by $46000 - Democrats Baffled

Posted by: headlines from the future at February 02, 2021 03:22 PM (h5TKJ)

157 Americans are too lazy for the opening sentence of the DoI to apply. Americans WANT a bigger and bigger government to farm out their responsibilities to, because responsibilities are hard. If that means the end of their freedom and living in a police state? So be it.

(Written with a heavy heart)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (49Dnm)

158 There's a cute (and fun) ipad and probably android physics game based on it. Where's my Perry is the name IIRC.
Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at February 02, 2021 03:22 PM (HBEnm)
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Nice!

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (mZUr4)

159 My prediction next year is 30% inflation on basic goods. Or price controls and empty shelves.
And it will get worse from there.
Biden/CCP are doing all they can.
I saw all this crap in the 70's.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (sy5kK)

I agree --inflation has to come... probably soon, But what's the move ? bonds? Commodities? There must be opportunities

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (Ed8Zd)

160 This is a real addition to Democrats "stimulus". They want to add the American Opportunity Accounts Act. this is legislative socialism. It mandates that every child receive a savings account at birth. They would get a set amount each year based on income up to 18 years old where they are eligible for $46,000.

***

This is in place of child tax credits and the "earned income" tax credit, right?

Right?

No?

Posted by: Your Betters in Perpetual Government at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (HBEnm)

161 Democrats will ALWAYS choose to attack, subvert, and tyrannize Republicans over working with us to get real change. Like lobsters in a pot, they will always pull us down rather than let us crawl out of it, even if it means we both escape. They hate us. They don't see us as human. AOC might agree with Ted Cruz but that doesn't stop her from accusing him of trying to murder her and basically calling him a rapist. They hate us. They will never work with us. They don't want us to even have freedom of speech and you think they're willing to work with us to build something new?

Posted by: Daryl Herbert at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (CVpUt)

162 Yeah, we've been at the Declaration of Independence stage for several years.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (WEBkv)

163 Elections are the purview of the states. Says so right there in the constitution. SCOTUS will strike it down. Why are you all laughing at me?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (kTF2Z)

164 3: Mr. Manchin is nothing but a weasel; a political opportunist.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (49Dnm)

165 Starship 9 is about to go.

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (yQpMk)

166 Save your next grocery receipt. Have it laminated. Show it to the kiddos in ten years when they don't believe you.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez)

-----

It will also come in handy when there's no more toilet paper.

Venezuela 2: Election Boogaloo.

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (fGud3)

167 All of us down at the Brattleboro Womins Reprducktive Hellth Center think we shoulds have a Department of Gay Rites. That way all Gays in America will be safe from Sexual Horassment.

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (TdWJo)

168 Lately I've been hearing the dumbest argument ever for spending us into oblivion. It goes something like "Trump created deficits, so everything is hypocrisy and political convenience so the Dems should be able to spend anything they want."

It's like saying if we both set fire to the house everything should turn out fine because "fair."

Posted by: Zek at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (w/5KC)

169 "The ET seem Christian in their editorial content and general tenor of coverage. But either way, good reporting is incredibly rare and they have it.
Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (Ed8Zd)"

I believe most of their writers are westerners, so not FG practitioners.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (icI8A)

170 If Soros wanted to crash the dollar...

Posted by: davidt at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (l3+k2)

171 SpaceX SN9 to launch in a couple of minutes. Link in sidebar.

Posted by: Grudge Harbor at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (uhPTO)

172 Congress is dogshit, and the voters plus frauds just turned it over to people who will be the final nail in our coffin.

There isn't a single thing that's demonstrably good for our country either being considered by Congress or signed into EO's. Not a single thing. It's all about how fast they will get us to the abyss.

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (VpIIl)

173 We used to dream of murder Hornets.

Posted by: DaveA at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (FhXTo)

174
I'm betting that idea gets floated somewhere after gun control and before free train rides to the CDC camps.

Posted by: Grapefruit LaCroix at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (4VafR)

They already did that in Argentina and they did it overnight. I kn ow people who are pulling their money now and keeping it as cash or investing in commodities that will hopefully hold value.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (946rW)

175 127 My prediction next year is 30% inflation on basic goods. Or price controls and empty shelves.
And it will get worse from there.
Biden/CCP are doing all they can.
I saw all this crap in the 70's.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (sy5kK)

I agree, and your number sounds about right. The difference between this time and the 70's is that politically, it would look bad to raise interest rates. So they'll stay at near zero in spite of inflation, which should guarantee a rate of 100% inflation the next year. Once a system hits that mark, it quickly becomes 100% per quarter, then 100% per week.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (trdmm)

176 Starship 9 is about to go.

Thanks for the heads-up. Off it goes!

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (h5TKJ)

177 Silver $26.86.
Headed the wrong way.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (lmYrx)

178 believe most of their writers are westerners, so not FG practitioners.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (icI8A)

So it's not a kung fu style? That's not as interesting.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (xfb67)

179 Lately I've been hearing the dumbest argument ever for spending us into oblivion. It goes something like "Trump created deficits, so everything is hypocrisy and political convenience so the Dems should be able to spend anything they want."

Posted by: Zek at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (w/5KC)
========

Those folks probably believe with all sincerity that Trump was the first President to have an unbalanced budget

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (mZUr4)

180 @15 sniffybigtoe
"Nice trick, but I ain't watchin no damn musical."

And one about commies, too.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (B0mGw)

181

I agree --inflation has to come... probably soon, But what's the move ? bonds? Commodities? There must be opportunities
Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM (Ed8Zd)

Invest in the pain and failure of others.
Housing prices collapsed, many industries did too, and deep pockets swooped in and bought them up, held for a while, then sold at a big profit.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (sy5kK)

182 144 SFGoth,
GOPe is the establishment aka officeholders of the GOP, GOP would be the voters and the rare officeholder beholden to the people. Easier to put in AOS limited space than Trumpers or Trumpists versus GOP because then you get the regular GOP partisans here riled up.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (pO7gM)

183 Elections are the purview of the states. Says so right there in the constitution. SCOTUS will strike it down. Why are you all laughing at me?

Posted by: Duke Lowell

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"Elections are a tax. And Americans still have no standing. Next!" -- SCROTUS 2021 in a 99-2 opinion

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (fGud3)

184 Elections are the purview of the states. Says so right there in the constitution. SCOTUS will strike it down. Why are you all laughing at me?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM

Don't worry, Duke. The military will defend the Constitution. They took an oath, so they totally have to.

Crap, now I'm being laughed at too.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (OssQ4)

185 WTF?? WeirdDave?? Is it Thursday night already??
Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:00 PM

Tuesday Afternoon, I know right?

Maybe Dave's got some moody blues.

Posted by: Hands - in white satin at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (786Ro)

186 Maybe the preppers advocating getting out of debt are wrong. Borrow money. Here's your money back. Worth a bag of dirt now.

Posted by: Zek at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (w/5KC)

187 Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (TdWJo)

hey Mary, nice to see you gracing the board again. i've been reading all to well recently and need the challenge...

Posted by: SturmToddler at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (8D42x)

188 "87
The spread of the highly contagious coronavirus variant first identified in Britain is sparking worry about a future surge in Southern California, one of the nation's two hot spots of the strain
Love the story I read where they said it is not only easier to catch, it "may" be more deadly... Thanks for the fear mongering
Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 03:12 PM (Zmnko) "

that's the thing about marketing fear, the adrenals get tired out; fear has to be constantly ramped up to new levels to stay effective ... or you have to let it relax for a while then put the skeer on again ... you can see these strategies on display in almost any horror movie.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (PpU3N)

189 It's like saying if we both set fire to the house everything should turn out fine because "fair."
Posted by: Zek at February 02, 2021 03:24 PM (w/5KC)
-------------

It's also ignoring that Paul Ryan, spit, could have reformed the budget process and sent separate spending bills to PDT, which, I believe, PDT wanted.

Instead, Ryan grudgingly did the tax cuts and then stabbed PDT in the back through resigning his seat and throwing the House back to the Dems.

Paul Ryan, of everyone in government, is the one most responsible for where we currently are.

Posted by: blake - Dr semi lurker in marginal standing at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (WEBkv)

190
Funny thing about The Epoch Times - they're a front for the Falun Gong.

The Gong Show

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (63Dwl)

191 9 There's nothing wrong with our government that getting rid of the leftard slime that currently infests it won't cure.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy, who did not vote for this shit at February 02, 2021 02:59 PM (HaL55)

soooo, you mean all of it?

Posted by: Shoey at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (hmNVd)

192 Who is fey California gonna fight?
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021

My bet: Nobody. The feds will just bail them out with federal money (same with Illinois, etc...). So you and I are bailing them out. And they can continue with their same profligate ways forever.

We fought a war once over taxation without representation. Unless we are all allowed to vote in CA and IL once the bailouts happen, another war should not be surprising. But most likely people will sit on their hands and do nothing.

Posted by: 496 at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (U1eOr)

193 "So it's not a kung fu style? That's not as interesting.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (xfb67)"

No, but they're the ones who do the Shen Yun Chinese ballet that you've probably seen advertised on a billboard or two.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (icI8A)

194 177 rick223b

Citadel is reportedly long on Silver ETF's and allegedly started the rumor that WSB partisans were targeting silver next.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:27 PM (pO7gM)

195 Soros couldn't crash the dollar as fast as Democrats can

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (Cxk7w)

196 https://news.gab.com/

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (o2MD2)

197 >>>Elections are the purview of the states. Says so right there in the constitution. SCOTUS will strike it down. Why are you all laughing at me?

>This land is your land, and this land is my land
>From the California, to the New York Island
>From the Redwood Forest, to the Gulf Stream waters
>This land was made for the Chinese

Posted by: Dr. Bone at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (03n3v)

198 My prediction next year is 30% inflation on basic goods. Or price controls and empty shelves.
And it will get worse from there.
Biden/CCP are doing all they can.
I saw all this crap in the 70's.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:17 PM (sy5kK)

There is a general malaise

Posted by: Hatari somewhere on Ventura Highway at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (M+Lyo)

199 @26 tinfoilbaby
"Alien landing has a good shot as next"

Fun-fact: Krugman suggested an alien invasion to push us into one world government.

So may be closer than you think.

Posted by: squid_hunt at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (B0mGw)

200 They would get a set amount each year based on income up to 18 years old where they are eligible for $46,000.

College Tuition Mysteriously Increases by $46000 - Democrats Baffled
Posted by: headlines from the future at February 02, 2021 03:22 PM (h5TKJ)

All used cars mysteriously cost $46000.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (Ed8Zd)

201 The Story So Far....

So, it's Fascism/NAZIsm all the way down.

That sounds about right.

Identity papers, mass rail, and bath houses are all that's left.

Wall Street says "Go Long on Zyklon B".

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (HhXSr)

202 "Fun-fact: Krugman suggested an alien invasion to push us into one world government.

So may be closer than you think.
Posted by: squid_hunt at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (B0mGw)"

Krugman just stole the plot of Watchmen.

Posted by: Broseidon at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (icI8A)

203 Seems to me those Men in 1776 had a press which reported the truth. So they had that going for them.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:20 PM (r1z5A)

Not necessarily true but it was harder to stop pamphleteers like Thomas Paine.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 03:29 PM (946rW)

204 The Democrats want awards and fawning articles, and even though they already get those, they want more. The need for adulation is never satisfied.

They'll crash the nation and not care because CNN calls them "spectacular."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at February 02, 2021 03:29 PM (E+OcO)

205 Krugman couldn't lead a pack of horny dogs to a bitch in heat.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 03:30 PM (o2MD2)

206
Starship 9 is about to go.

Plan 9 to Deep Space 9.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 03:30 PM (63Dwl)

207 Don't worry, Duke. The military will defend the Constitution. They took an oath, so they totally have to.

Crap, now I'm being laughed at too.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez)

DoJ has the proof, and will be indicting in 2 weeks.

What's that snorting?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:30 PM (r1z5A)

208
I agree, and your number sounds about right. The difference between this time and the 70's is that politically, it would look bad to raise interest rates. So they'll stay at near zero in spite of inflation, which should guarantee a rate of 100% inflation the next year. Once a system hits that mark, it quickly becomes 100% per quarter, then 100% per week.
Posted by: Tom Servo at February 02, 2021 03:25 PM (trdmm)

Yeah, they can't touch inflation rates with zero interest for so long, and a huge rising debt unheard of, even in WWII. Increasing prices / product shortages are all that is left.
Well, not everything.....
whig mentioned that the plan is to import cheap electronics and consumer goods to hide real inflation.
Except I'm not buying much consumer stuff any more, nor know many that are.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (sy5kK)

209 Krugman couldn't lead a pack of horny dogs to a bitch in heat.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 03:30 PM (o2MD2)

But he could give them all fleas.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (y7DUB)

210 What if aliens arrive and they tell us we must exterminate all leftists/communists for our species to survive?

I think I could have my final decision in under 5 minutes.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (xfb67)

211 The USD is a FIAT currency. It doesn't matter what's promised in the bill. We're about to go Weimar Republic.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (WFggu)

212 Very optimistic piece. I'm not.

Posted by: Alana at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (7iVzU)

213 Crap, now I'm being laughed at too.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez)

DoJ has the proof, and will be indicting in 2 weeks.

What's that snorting?
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:30 PM (r1z5A)

---------

You guys can sit at my table. I have booze.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (kTF2Z)

214 Dang. Not a good landing for SN9.

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:32 PM (h5TKJ)

215 Don't worry, Duke. The military will defend the Constitution. They took an oath, so they totally have to.

Crap, now I'm being laughed at too.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at February 02, 2021 03:26 PM (OssQ4)

And THE COURTS! Don't forget the courts will never allow our Republican form of government to be shat on! STOP SNICKERING!

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 03:32 PM (946rW)

216 211 The USD is a FIAT currency. It doesn't matter what's promised in the bill. We're about to go Weimar Republic.
Posted by: Winston Smith at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (WFggu)

As are most currencies. Yawn.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:32 PM (49Dnm)

217 Elon Musk: Fuck it, launch the next one!

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at February 02, 2021 03:33 PM (jOcSX)

218 Woops Starship 9 did a Biden. It crashed on an attempted landing.

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:33 PM (VpIIl)

219 The States will do what they will. The federal officers that try to enforce vote-by-mail may find themselves in a "re-education camp." No federal officers will be killed. This will not be another Ft. Sumter.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 02, 2021 03:33 PM (2BZBZ)

220 Grrrrrr. The newest neighbor has decided our road is too narrow and must be widened. He wants the county to remove six feet of trees alongside the prettiest stretch of the road.

I called the county commissioner and informed him that anyone who is in too much of a hurry to pull over or stop for oncoming traffic has no business on this hill.

I think I may prevail. How often does someone call a bureaucrat to ask them NOT to do something?

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:33 PM (XxJt1)

221 211 The USD is a FIAT currency. It doesn't matter what's promised in the bill. We're about to go Weimar Republic.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (WFggu)

It's getting to the point where the best thing we could do for our economic system is to have massive bonfires of money.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:33 PM (xfb67)

222 I think I could have my final decision in under 5 minutes.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:31 PM (xfb67)

---------

5 minutes? Here's how it would go for me.

You must exterminate the left or...

Done!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:33 PM (kTF2Z)

223 I think in the 70's we at least had some shards of industry left in America. Do we even have a foundation to rebuild on?

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (r1z5A)

224 All currencies are fiat. LOL. Ponzi scheme everywhere.

Posted by: JAS, AoSHQ addict at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (2BZBZ)

225 You want to see the Great Reset operationalized? The "President" B(uy)den* proposal to eliminate the step-up basis for inheritance tax calculation will flat nuts murder family farms.

No yeoman will be able to pass the farm down -- the inheritors won't be able to afford the tax. Not to worry, though -- Gates and Bezos can. Enjoy your textured soy protein, bug bars, and cockroach milk while you bicycle to your residence pod.

Posted by: $750 Worth of Zap Rowsdower at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (P/ALc)

226 Citadel is reportedly long on Silver ETF's and allegedly started the rumor that WSB partisans were targeting silver next.
Posted by: whig

Yeah. That lasted half a day. It started going down from $29 yesterday to $26 today. No one has physical silver. And if they do, they are running $10+ over spot.
$26.85 spot, $36.50 cc/PayPal

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (lmYrx)

227 > I was reading this morning that Dems are pissed at Joey because he promised them 2k but is now deducting the last $600 from that.

Those are the moderates.

Most of them want $2,000 per month, backdated to last spring, and continuing unto they decide the crisis is over. In other words, permanently.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (I8SZs)

228 Why in the name of all that is holy and true is Paul Krugman considered intelligent?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (lgiXo)

229 Don't worry. Democrats are planning on "free" college too. Paid for with your tax money.

Posted by: Marcus T, at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (VpIIl)

230 Wall Street says "Go Long on Zyklon B".
Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM

Commies never bother with that. Hit the commodities market and invest in lead futures.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (49Dnm)

231 So,anyone want to guess what comes next?

Show tunes?

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (yFpt5)

232 https://news.gab.com/
Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 03:28 PM (o2MD2)

We need more like him.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:35 PM (Ed8Zd)

233 That Manchin guy is a real super patriot, much like myself.

Posted by: Bart Stupak at February 02, 2021 03:36 PM (Js/7v)

234 8 Manchin said he would vote in favor of the budget resolution but would continue to fight for bipartisanship in the process of negotiations.

But he's a moderate
Posted by: It's me donna at February 02, 2021 02:58 PM (Zmnko)

Why, why, why does anyone hold out the fools' gold of a hope that Joe Mancini would ever be more than what he is - a Democrat.

Geez. Krysten Sinema is more of a moderate than this mope is.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at February 02, 2021 03:36 PM (4tiP2)

235 > 116 I know a guy named Phineas - "Phineas Baxandale".

Hadley V.'s brother, right?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:36 PM (I8SZs)

236 And just think, none of this coming American Apocalypse is even legitimate because China Joe didn't even win the election. How 'bout them apples!

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:37 PM (O+I8R)

237 On YouTube Is the smoke I see on horizon the remains of space ship 9?

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:37 PM (Cxk7w)

238 224. Yes. The world is broke. This probably ends in war UNLESS the elites, driven Gaia worship, decide the ecological cost is too much.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 02, 2021 03:37 PM (WFggu)

239 What happens next? Hard to say.

On one hand you could look at this leviathan regime lashing out with brute force in every direction--clumsily rigging the election at the eleventh hour, openly manipulating the stock market, using its media mouthpieces to denounce its designated enemies of the state with hysterical, militaristic language, persecuting and prosecuting anyone and everyone, barricading themselves inside the imperial capitol behind razor wire and a division of troops--and interpret it as weakness, a clear sign that for all its power the regime understands it longer has any real authority.

On the other hand, you could interpret it as a sign that they're now so powerful that they don't even have to care about pretenses anymore. They can just openly crush and humiliate whomever they choose and there's nothing to be done about it. These are the people who killed Epstein and called it suicide, and everyone in America knew it was bullshit and it didn't matter. They tell the most transparent, outrageous lies in the media and simply silence or ban anyone who calls them out on it.

So who knows.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at February 02, 2021 03:37 PM (0Uf+z)

240 and of course the GOPe is too stupid to put out ads to those disaffected voters that the new stimulus will screw these voters in favor of the wealthy donor class of the Dems.

It is because the GOPe often shares the same donors at the leadership level.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:16 PM (pO7gM)

Mike Huckabee made that point in a 2017 appearance on Life, Liberty and Levin when asked why DJT was accomplishing things that previously eluded GOP Presidents.

Posted by: Captain Hate Won't Forget Ashli Babbitt at February 02, 2021 03:37 PM (y7DUB)

241 Are we really doing hyper inflation again?

Posted by: Glen Beck at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (7G6ZP)

242
I agree --inflation has to come... probably soon, But what's the move ? bonds? Commodities? There must be opportunities

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:23 PM

if you were holding large pistol primers, you could make bank, bigly

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (cUi/7)

243 Starship 9 crashed and burned.

Posted by: Javems at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (8SSHh)

244 Tom Servo,
Given the level of government debt, the Fed literally CANNOT raise interest rates as it would either provoke immediate massive cutting of federal spending and thus a depression or tax increases to the level that the government will collapse anyway. Thus, we borrow and borrow until we cannot anymore. In essence, debts that cannot be repaid, will not be repaid.

The choice is depreciate the currency to worthlessness through monetizing the debt or default immediately. Ultimately, a historically an outright default is more shortlived in effects along with a general debt jubilee than depreciating the currency.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (pO7gM)

245 I know a guy named Phineas - "Phineas Baxandale".

Hadley V.'s brother, right?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:36 PM (I8SZs)

-------

Oh yeah, he's the guy who recommended the use of longbows at Agincourt, right?

Posted by: Duke Lowell at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (kTF2Z)

246 218 Woops Starship 9 did a Biden. It crashed on an attempted landing.
hope that was included in their flight plan with the FAA.

Posted by: Comrade Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (v3pYe)

247 IIRC, the last one crashed, too. They weren't the least bit upset about it. They said it was a learning experience. I expect that attitude has carried forward.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (XxJt1)

248 Are we really doing hyper inflation again?

--

And bell-bottoms.

Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (O+I8R)

249
On the other hand, you could interpret it as a sign that they're now so powerful that they don't even have to care about pretenses anymore.

------

That's the one. They aren't afraid. They're just in the process of formalizing their absolute command authority in all things, before the games begin.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (Bvn1K)

250 > I think in the 70's we at least had some shards of industry left in America. Do we even have a foundation to rebuild on?

We still have a surprising amount of manufacturing here, despite everything the Uniparty has done to destroy it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (I8SZs)

251 I know all this Wall Street bashing is fun, but they didn't change the rules, the kids just didn't understand the rules they agreed to. They all signed margin agreements that they didn't understand and now they're trying to make a market event into a political one.

Fair enough. But the SEC's charter is for orderly markets and they restrict trading by limiting margin during periods of high volatility. It doesn't matter to them that the 'little guy' WANTED the volatility. IT's what they always do, no matter who starts it.

The most dangerous thing in the markets is people with high leverage who don't understand the risks they're taking. Wall Street Bets has that written all over it. But they think it's political because they think everything is political. It isn't. It's just trying to keep these toddlers from blowing off their own heads with the loaded firearm they've found in daddy drawer.

Posted by: Tom From WashSquare at February 02, 2021 03:39 PM (s0h8C)

252 "Everyone up to speed? Good. So, anyone want to guess what comes next?"

I heard a few times in the not-so-distant past that in the end, there will be only chaos, so...that?

Posted by: Thrawn at February 02, 2021 03:39 PM (Z5BUl)

253 Why in the name of all that is holy and true is Paul Krugman considered intelligent?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (lgiXo)

It's only Dims who think Paul is intelligent. Real world example of Idiocracy.

Posted by: tbodie at February 02, 2021 03:39 PM (lmYrx)

254 I expect Senile Joe will be found wandering the streets in a muscle shirt and Depends.
It will lead to intense praise from the media.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 02, 2021 03:40 PM (lgiXo)

255 SpaceX's latest rocket test did a CNN.

Posted by: johnd01 at February 02, 2021 03:40 PM (ukNFU)

256 They haven't anymore care than the old Soviets who lost millions but was all in a day's work since they stayed fat and happy.

Posted by: Skip at February 02, 2021 03:41 PM (Cxk7w)

257 254 I expect Senile Joe will be found wandering the streets in a muscle shirt and Depends.
It will lead to intense praise from the media.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 02, 2021 03:40 PM (lgiXo)

CNN: "The Bear is loose. The Bear is loose!"

Posted by: Thrawn at February 02, 2021 03:41 PM (Z5BUl)

258 255 SpaceX's latest rocket test did a ~~CNN~~Tesla.

Posted by: johnd01 at February 02, 2021 03:40 PM (ukNFU)

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:41 PM (xfb67)

259 Yes. The world is broke. This probably ends in war UNLESS the elites, driven Gaia worship, decide the ecological cost is too much.
Posted by: Winston Smith

Gavrilo Princip says, "hold muh beer".

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:41 PM (lmYrx)

260 Dems: We want $2 Trillion

GOPe: We want $900 million

Dems: How about $1.8 trillion?

GOPe: BOO-YAH! $200 million budget cut!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 02, 2021 03:41 PM (dNzKv)

261 The really great thing about the modern monetary system is that you don't even have to fire up the printing presses. A few dudes at Treasury and the Federal Reserve push some buttons and suddenly a dollar is worth 1/1000 of what it was this morning.

Awesome, huh?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:42 PM (I8SZs)

262 Never been an Elon Musk fan. Always thought his mouth wrote checks his ass couldn't cash.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 03:42 PM (o2MD2)

263 Nothing says I'm rarin' to revolt like breaking into a Le Mis number. This country is well and truly fucked.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at February 02, 2021 03:42 PM (H5knJ)

264 I expect Senile Joe will be found wandering the streets in a muscle shirt and Depends.
It will lead to intense praise from the media.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker

Why do you think they put up the fencing? Wasn't to keep us out...

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:42 PM (lmYrx)

265 Didn't Krugman win a prize of some sort? A Pulitzer? LOL.

Posted by: Ziba at February 02, 2021 03:42 PM (S1hrL)

266 259. Haha. Forget the 'by' in driven by Gaia worship. I don't post often, but don't want to let down Ace when I do.

Posted by: Winston Smith at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (WFggu)

267 Next?

UBI stipend for most

Vaccines with chips required for all

Digital virtual currency

No leisure travel, no concerts, no group activities. Forever.

Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (tjZg/)

268 No yeoman will be able to pass the farm down -- the inheritors won't be able to afford the tax. Not to worry, though -- Gates and Bezos can. Enjoy your textured soy protein, bug bars, and cockroach milk while you bicycle to your residence pod.
Posted by: $750 Worth of Zap Rowsdower at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (P/ALc)

why can't family farms form an LLC or S Corp. and sell the farm to the company and name the family members as directors? Or at least put it in a trust. Those acts may have other tax consequences, but should avoid a crazy tax bill on the death of the parents.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (Ed8Zd)

269 All that alien technology just lying around and what do the democrats glam on to? Anal probe technology for the wu flu test.

Posted by: Archer at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (gmo/4)

270 I wish I believed this musical number about the people singing. But We the People just willingly handed over essential liberties because of the flu. We the people will not fight. So we.do not deserve to br free.

Posted by: BurkeanMama at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (CYk5a)

271 The idea floated in 2019 by Warren (I think) was too tax unrealized stock market gains. Expect that one to make a comeback.

Posted by: Eisenhorn at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (wzqPr)

272 Meh. SpaceX said they were expecting to blow up a few test vehicles.

If you're not blowing one up now and then, you're not advancing the state of the art in rocketry.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (I8SZs)

273 When are they going to push for cashless?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (dNzKv)

274 The original American Revolution was over less. Time for round two.

Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (0OmEj)

275 265 Didn't Krugman win a prize of some sort? A Pulitzer? LOL.
Posted by: Ziba at February 02, 2021 03:42 PM (S1hrL)

He won a participation trophy for "right think".

Posted by: Xipe Totec at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (o2MD2)

276 >They all signed margin agreements that they didn't understand and now they're trying to make a market event into a political one.

Posted by: Tom From WashSquare at February 02, 2021 03:39 PM (s0h8C)

LOL. Where's your evidence that WSB all purchased long positions on margin?

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (7cERy)

277 228 Why in the name of all that is holy and true is Paul Krugman considered intelligent?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (lgiXo)

HE HAS A NOBEL PRIZE IN ECONOMICS! NOW SHUT UP!!!

(-All my Leftist buddies)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (49Dnm)

278
"Don't get too funny, Walter buddy," Senator Van Ackerman said at last in a softly threatening tone. "Things are going to happen in America that you just don't dream of in your nice liberal circles. You just think it's all a nice, sweet little intellectual game, don't you? You always have, you and your sweet-smelling friends, playing fast and loose with America just so you could make points at Washington cocktail parties and tell one another in New York just how mincy-pincy, just how rootsy-tootsy smart-ass brilliant you all are. Well, let me tell you, Walter boy, let me tell you. things are getting into the hands of the people who really know what's best for America now. You and your crew have served your purpose, you've conned the boobs and conditioned them to accept any lie if it's smooth enough, you've told them what to believe and made them so confused they don't know which way is up. You've done your job, Walter boy; you've paved the way for us. And now here - we - are."

Allen Drury, Preserve and Protect, 1968 (!)

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (mht8P)

279 That's the one. They aren't afraid. They're just in the process of formalizing their absolute command authority in all things, before the games begin.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

-----

The Hunger Games was supposed to be a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual.

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (MmQ0O)

280 239 It is more likely the former than the latter. The Dems launched a coup successfully via the election steal. But, they lack the real power to consolidate their winnings but their teammates on team GOPe are trying their best to shore up the Dems there.

In a geographically dispersed population of Reds and Blues, it would be very nasty for either side to slip into a hot Civil War so the attempt is a psyop to persuade people that resistance is useless. It is working for some folks because what they have been taught is Germany in the 30's or perhaps the Russian Revolution. A few know of the French Revolution.

In Germany, the elimination of the Communists more or less had majority support of the population although they disagreed on means. That is not true here.
Both the Russian and French revolutions meant wholesale liquidation of the ruling elites by violence or exile. That is not present here.

This is top down repression more like the Chinese response to Tienanmen Square or your average military coup complete with the military imagery and the frantic buying off of key groups in the institutions needed to control the population.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (pO7gM)

281 The most dangerous thing in the markets is people with high leverage who don't understand the risks they're taking. Wall Street Bets has that written all over it.

****

How are a few thousand people "risking" $1000 and making $30K off of the hedge funds comparable to toddlers shooting themselves with a gun they found in Daddy's drawer?

Posted by: Mr. Gray #9 at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (ylp2r)

282 When are they going to push for cashless?

They did a trial run this year. "Coin shortage." Notice how that went away?

Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (tjZg/)

283 I know all this Wall Street bashing is fun, but they didn't change the
rules, the kids just didn't understand the rules they agreed to. They
all signed margin agreements that they didn't understand and now they're
trying to make a market event into a political one.

-------

This is a lie. Many of the people whose shares Robinhood was selling against their will did not buy on credit but with currency from their bank accounts.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (946rW)

284 why can't family farms form an LLC or S Corp. and sell the farm to the company and name the family members as directors? Or at least put it in a trust. Those acts may have other tax consequences, but should avoid a crazy tax bill on the death of the parents.
Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (Ed8Zd)

They probably have a century lookback built into the estate tax clause.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (dNzKv)

285 Are we really doing hyper inflation again?

--

And bell-bottoms.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (O+I8R)

Quiana shirts and puka shells!

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

286 Sire, I've conscripted Irish levies and ordered them to harry the adversary with Broadway musicals!

Posted by: Longshank's Ghey Son at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (H5knJ)

287 The most dangerous thing in the markets is people with high leverage who don't understand the risks they're taking. Wall Street Bets has that written all over it.

What a bizarre take. The hedge fund wankers who shorted GME to the tune of more stock than was available were the ones who didn't understand the risk they were taking. And when they got punished for being stupid fucks, they went crying to be made whole, as usual.

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (h5TKJ)

288 No yeoman will be able to pass the farm down -- the
inheritors won't be able to afford the tax. Not to worry, though --
Gates and Bezos can. Enjoy your textured soy protein, bug bars, and
cockroach milk while you bicycle to your residence pod.

Posted by: $750 Worth of Zap Rowsdower at February 02, 2021 03:34 PM (P/ALc)

why can't family farms form an LLC or S Corp. and sell the farm to
the company and name the family members as directors? Or at least put
it in a trust. Those acts may have other tax consequences, but should
avoid a crazy tax bill on the death of the parents.

Posted by: LASue

Actually most "family" farms are llcs', and for the exact reasons stated.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (r1z5A)

289 That's the one. They aren't afraid. They're just in the process of formalizing their absolute command authority in all things, before the games begin.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (Bvn1K)

Disagree, YD. They are terrified of white nationalist domestic terrorists who don't exist. They live in an alternative world of their own creation where the oceans are about to boil, women are men and men are women, and what somebody tweets about you is a matter of great importance. Let's hope their overreaction to the nonexistent terrorists doesn't have the effect of creating them.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (BMmaB)

290 267 Next?

UBI stipend for most

Vaccines with chips required for all

Digital virtual currency

No leisure travel, no concerts, no group activities. Forever.
Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (tjZg/)

It's been exactly one year since I went to a concert. Mozart's "Requiem" How fitting.

Posted by: josephistan at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (Izzlo)

291 Cat Ass Trophy: "GOPe: BOO-YAH! $200 million budget cut!"

But make sure the cut obligates the Congress of 2050 to handle it. We'll just go right on ahead and spend that $200 million now, too. We'll call it a windfall.

Posted by: Paul Ryan, Budgeting Genius at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (HhXSr)

292 "...the regime is planning on exploding govt spending via borrowing which entails less problems politically."

They are just creating it, not borrowing it, mostly. (QE) That in some regards is better (no interest payments) but it is a tax, to the extent it makes all dollars worth less. BUT that may not show up in price inflation, especially when it mostly makes the rich richer. But they have to keep the blue collar guy motivated to work (and preferably Americans doing the work, not China slaves). -- ...
They are doing "communism" the right way ... sorta. They will control money flow, give it to their friends and lower class, squeeze out the America First middle class. ... An elitist/globalist class will rule us ... they are most of the way there already.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (Cus5s)

293 > Digital virtual currency

Had that for at least 30 years now.

As for the chips, no need for that when everyone voluntarily carries a tracking device everywhere they go.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (I8SZs)

294 Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (tjZg/)

I'm a big fan of Revelation and some of that sounds awfully familiar.

The vaccinations aren't as big of a scare for me, as this new ability the Feds and Big Tech have to de-platform people is. Sounds a lot about causing all "both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads and that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name."

But I'm sure it's nothing!

Posted by: Thrawn at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (Z5BUl)

295 This is a lie. Many of the people whose shares Robinhood was selling against their will did not buy on credit but with currency from their bank accounts.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (946rW)

Yep. The pr trolls are out in force.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (Ed8Zd)

296 You know, you can file for a tax return for $6.8 million dollars and they'll send you a check. The only drawback is if you stick around for a few years while they figure it out.

How much money does the government send to prisoners and Nigerian scammers each year?

Apparently, only dummies follow the law these days.

Posted by: jwest at February 02, 2021 03:47 PM (/BlEx)

297 Another sin tax hit Anchorage after midnight Sunday.
I believe we have the highest in the nation yet they won't stop. Goddamit I want the government OUT of my life!

Posted by: Bosk at February 02, 2021 03:47 PM (SWbVS)

298 Ah say son ahd go long on wsrm sweaters. And stay offa Sea King Choppers.

Posted by: Jimmah Carter at February 02, 2021 03:47 PM (Js/7v)

299 "why can't family farms form an LLC or S Corp. and sell the farm to the company and name the family members as directors? Or at least put it in a trust. Those acts may have other tax consequences, but should avoid a crazy tax bill on the death of the parents.

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:43 PM (Ed8Zd) "

A lot of family farms around here are exactly that.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 02, 2021 03:47 PM (PpU3N)

300 Actually most "family" farms are llcs', and for the exact reasons stated.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (r1z5A)

Yes, but the distribution of the parent's ownership interest in the LLC is a taxable event if there is a capital gain over the basis.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 03:47 PM (BMmaB)

301 I'm constantly surprised at the number of people that don't fully grok that we passed the fiscal event horizon in 2008. It's all over but the clown masks, pogroms, and dune buggies with those cool quad crossbows on the back.

It's all clown money. The fiscal solutions are a postwar concern; nothing is going to get fixed in DC prior to that.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at February 02, 2021 03:48 PM (EEVQU)

302 ..were the ones who didn't understand the risk they were taking. And when they got punished for being stupid fucks, they went crying to be made whole, as usual.

Posted by: spindrift at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (h5TKJ)

They knew the risks, they just believed them to not apply to them because they are above such things. The risks only apply to poor people, you see.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:48 PM (xfb67)

303 Actually most "family" farms are llcs', and for the exact reasons stated.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:46 PM (r1z5A)

That makes sense. So when people bemoan the fact that 'family farms' are 90% corporate owned, that is a bit misleading, right?

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:48 PM (Ed8Zd)

304
It's been exactly one year since I went to a concert. Mozart's "Requiem" How fitting.

Once upon a time, I had a job that included concert, theater and tv work. I have a union pension. When this all started, they sent a letter out saying your could withdraw cash from your pension without penalty. About four months later, another letter came saying the same thing.

It's been almost a year since live entertainment has worked. How many people do you think completely emptied their accounts for living expenses?

Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:48 PM (tjZg/)

305 They knew the risks, they just believed them to not apply to them because they are above such things. The risks only apply to poor people, you see.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:48 PM (xfb67)

***

This, and they're probably right because I don't doubt for a moment that Biden won't bail those poor souls out.

Posted by: Mr. Gray #9 at February 02, 2021 03:49 PM (ylp2r)

306 So I am watching one of my favorite shows on Youtube, Rick Beato's examination of music and culture. He's a musician and producer, who was a unversity professor of music theory and he is fascinating to watch. I highly recommend.

But he brought up something about what killed music by 2000.

In 1983, 90% of American media (print, radio, TV, music etc) was owned by 50 companies. By 2011, that same percentage was owned by... 6.

What happened? Bill Clinton signed the Telecommunications Act of 1996 which allowed big companies like GE, Disney, Viacom etc to gobble up smaller ones.

GOPe cheered this: big business!!!
But it also meant that viewpoints became shrunk, compacted, and more easily manipulated. Getting 50 small businesses to go along with woke crap is hard. Getting 6 to... much easier.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2021 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

307 251 Tom,
Shilling pretty hard today-no one likes hedge funds aside from those invested in them. Not much reason for them to exist nor get any special treatment from the tax code and regulators.

Doing a short of 140 percent of a stock is stupid and typical of the masters of the universe thinking. WSB noticed it. By the way, Deepf...Value was a CFA at Mass Mutual before he took up day trading.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:49 PM (pO7gM)

308 When are they going to push for cashless?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (dNzKv)

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You'll know it's coming soon when they (probably all world governments) finally ban cryptocurrencies -- except for government control and use.

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 03:49 PM (MmQ0O)

309 Most families with farms have an old man too stubborn to cut in his kids before they say FUCK IT and leave. Dont axe me how i know

Posted by: dr kill at February 02, 2021 03:49 PM (Js/7v)

310 spindrift: "...were the ones who didn't understand the risk they were taking..."

They damn well DID know the risk they were taking. It's just that the inside scam worked so predictably well for them in the past that they didn't care. That's the way it was done. But, on this rare occasion, the wrong crowd sniffed out the game and turned it. But there's no way they didn't know exactly what they were doing.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (HhXSr)

311 That makes sense. So when people bemoan the fact that 'family farms' are 90% corporate owned, that is a bit misleading, right?

Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:48 PM (Ed8Zd)

No, most "farms" are run by big agricultural companies. There are every few family farms left. There are still some people that own land and lease it to the agricultural companies. They usually have an LLC for that.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (xfb67)

312 https://soundcloud.com/user-311524508/we-will-not-comply

Posted by: Stephen Tefft at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (rx54U)

313 I'm a big fan of Revelation and some of that sounds awfully familiar.

Yep. It freaks me out too.

Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (tjZg/)

314
OMFG. I haven't been to HotAir except by accident since 2015, but for some reason I just stopped by. Don't have any idea why I did, it was a mistake. But here's this *gem* from Allahpundit, RE: AOC in fear for her stupid worthless life:

"If it makes people like Ted Cruz and Nikki Haley who want to 'move on' feel uncomfortable to be reminded that some of their colleagues narrowly avoided being murdered by a crazed mob of putsch-minded Trump fans, well, good. It should."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (Bvn1K)

315 The most dangerous thing in the markets is people with high leverage who don't understand the risks they're taking. Wall Street Bets has that written all over it.

Redditers: Leeeeroy Jeeeenkins!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (lmYrx)

316 "
They did a trial run this year. "Coin shortage." Notice how that went away?

Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (tjZg/)"

did it go away ?
saw a big banner at a checkout line just the other day ...

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (PpU3N)

317 If they reduce the value of my pitiful savings to dust I'm going to be severely pissed. I won't do well standing in an bread line.

Posted by: Javems at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (8SSHh)

318 > The most dangerous thing in the markets is people with high leverage

Most of the people on WSB are going long on stuff, investing their stimulus checks and such.

Their losses are limited to the amount they've put in. There is no "leverage".

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:51 PM (I8SZs)

319 Yes, but the distribution of the parent's ownership
interest in the LLC is a taxable event if there is a capital gain over
the basis.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

Don't quote me but my understanding is the parents can bleed off their shares over a period of years so the tax hit isn't quite so brutal.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:51 PM (r1z5A)

320 Election fraud? There was election fraud? No one is talking about it. Toxic subject because people are afraid of being cancelled.

Posted by: PaterNovem at February 02, 2021 03:51 PM (yyJt0)

321 "If it makes people like Ted Cruz and Nikki Haley who want to 'move on' feel uncomfortable to be reminded that some of their colleagues narrowly avoided being murdered by a crazed mob of putsch-minded Trump fans, well, good. It should."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

Funny how they were "almost murdered" by unarmed people.

Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:52 PM (lmYrx)

322 "If it makes people like Ted Cruz and Nikki Haley who want to 'move on' feel uncomfortable to be reminded that some of their colleagues narrowly avoided being murdered by a crazed mob of putsch-minded Trump fans, well, good. It should."

The only person murdered was an unarmed woman killed by a cop. And the cop will not be charged.

Because it is now LEGAL for a cop to kill a conservative.

Posted by: shibumi at February 02, 2021 03:52 PM (tjZg/)

323 Redeye Nood

Posted by: G'rump928(c) at February 02, 2021 03:52 PM (yQpMk)

324 23 >>>President Biden $1.9T Covid relief package

Clown world money.
Posted by: JebPilled at February 02, 2021 03:02 PM (QUqEV)

I would swab Bidens ass with my tongue for some of that free money.

Posted by: Lib Thinker at February 02, 2021 03:52 PM (WmXks)

325 some of their colleagues narrowly avoided being murdered

I heard there were zip ties!

Posted by: HystericPundit at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (h5TKJ)

326 So who's gonna write our Declaration?

Posted by: f'd at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (+y8uL)

327 Aw crap, just saw the Starship do a Pinto.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Sans-Culottes (except for the Book Thread) at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (Dc2NZ)

328 I'm constantly surprised at the number of people that don't fully grok that we passed the fiscal event horizon in 2008. It's all over but the clown masks, pogroms, and dune buggies with those cool quad crossbows on the back.

Yeah, there was a very, very slim chance that 8 years of Trump without the Wuhan Flu shutdown and fiscal conservative congress could have exploded the economy hot enough to grow ourselves out of the doom but...

No. Its too late now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (KZzsI)

329 Texas HB 1359

Posted by: itsacookbook at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (yPxXc)

330 Are we really doing hyper inflation again?
And bell-bottoms.
Posted by: Lady in Black at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (O+I8R)
Quiana shirts and puka shells!
Posted by: LASue at February 02, 2021 03:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

whig is correct, the only way to deal with the exploding debt is to inflate the currency so the debt is devalued. That is inevitable. As illiniwek notes, QE is trying to do just that. The problem is that the Fed is pushing on a rope. Aggregate demand is stagnant, and won't be revived by printing money. Welcome to the 70's.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (BMmaB)

331 Nood but no link

Posted by: Mr Gray at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (1+b9Z)

332 > There are every few family farms left

There are very few family farms left for the same reason there are very few family weaving operations left.

Industrial scale is just more efficient in every way.

It's sad, but true.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (I8SZs)

333 "when they got punished for being stupid fucks, they went crying to be made whole, as usual."

one of the lines from The Big Short, about how stupid Morgan was being leveraged long on housing ... "They weren't being stupid, they knew they would get bailed out". And they manipulated the SnP ratings agency, to keep the rating up on their housing positions as they got out. Goldman later paid (iirc) a couple billion in fines for selling their own junk to customers, telling them how great it was.

Posted by: illiniwek at February 02, 2021 03:53 PM (Cus5s)

334 Don't quote me but my understanding is the parents can bleed off their shares over a period of years so the tax hit isn't quite so brutal.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:51 PM (r1z5A)

Yes, that's the best way to do it.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 03:54 PM (BMmaB)

335 A few dudes at Treasury and the Federal Reserve push some buttons and suddenly a dollar is worth 1/1000 of what it was this morning.

Awesome, huh?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Hey now - don't go gendering Janet Yellen. Although you may be on to something...

Posted by: 496 at February 02, 2021 03:55 PM (U1eOr)

336 If you're not blowing one up now and then, you're not advancing the state of the art in rocketry.
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*nods*

Posted by: Jack Parsons at February 02, 2021 03:55 PM (Dc2NZ)

337 335 A few dudes at Treasury and the Federal Reserve push some buttons and suddenly a dollar is worth 1/1000 of what it was this morning.

Awesome, huh?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Hey now - don't go gendering Janet Yellen. Although you may be on to something...
Posted by: 496 at February 02, 2021 03:55 PM (U1eOr)

Not that the Volkskammer spending money to the point that way too much money is chasing too few goods has anything at all to do with it. By all means, we'll just blame the Federal Reserve, the Treasury, the Great Pumpkin - anything and everything but the Volkskammer.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 03:57 PM (49Dnm)

338 There are very few family farms left for the same reason there are very few family weaving operations left.

Industrial scale is just more efficient in every way.

It's sad, but true.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

My experience was, farmers who spent the winter rebuilding equipment did fine. Those who bought new gear every couple years or so (on credit) were always behind the eight ball. As to economies of scale, once your farm is big enough for industrial levels of equipment, the playing field is pretty level.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:57 PM (r1z5A)

339
Redditers: Leeeeroy Jeeeenkins!!!
Posted by: rickb223 at February 02, 2021 03:50 PM (lmYrx)

Thank you. That made me laugh, which I needed today.

Posted by: Moki at February 02, 2021 03:58 PM (+X9Vs)

340 Oh, Ace...

Must post this:

Wokeyleaks -Paul Joseph Watson

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvjxePsmYqg

Posted by: SMH at February 02, 2021 03:58 PM (8WCBI)

341 The largest investor in hedge funds are pensions. They all benefit from their existence.

I know you are the same people who sent me death threats in 2009 when I was managing money at a large fund. It didn't matter to you that I had nothing to do with mortgages, never got a penny in 'bailout' money, and never even lost money for our investors. I'm a part of a machine that you can't see the value in, so you want it destroyed. you don't understand what you're destroying, but you want it destroyed anyway.

I knew that's what I was in for commenting here, but I did it anyway so I have no one to blame but myself. But I'll tell you something. Something none of you will believe, but at least I've said it.

Most of the people in the hedge fund industry are more honorable, decent, and honest than the people I meet in the street. They have to be because success in the industry requires it. You treat hedge funds like they're a single homogenous group because it serves your political purposes. Does that sound like anyone else we know?

You call that 'shilling' because you think I'm making a political point. I'm not. I'm just telling you how it is.

Posted by: Tom From WashSquare at February 02, 2021 03:58 PM (s0h8C)

342 If you're not blowing one up now and then, you're not advancing the state of the art in rocketry.
---

*nods*
Posted by: Jack Parsons at February 02, 2021 03:55 PM (Dc2NZ)

Back when we used to travel, I had a friend whose philosophy was that if you don't miss a flight at least once a year, you're getting to the airport too early. Same principle, I think.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 03:58 PM (BMmaB)

343 308 When are they going to push for cashless?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at February 02, 2021 03:44 PM (dNzKv)

That's the nuclear option as far as currency goes.
The ultimate trump card for the U.S. is to declare all currency worthless (using counterfeiting as an excuse) and that all money is going to be replaced with either new bills or electronic money. All you have to do to redeem your cash is to come in and explain how you have so much of it.

Just produce your tax records and other documents showing it's legal. I went through this in Korea while serving in the Army and the "script" we used for cash was declared worthless at midnight one day. Koreans were not allowed to have script and some killed themselves as a result.

The whole civilian world has their assets in U.S. cash. If we make the switch, the planet collapses.

Posted by: jwest at February 02, 2021 03:58 PM (/BlEx)

344 LASue, back in the day, I used to survey those folks as a temp job for the USDA.

Most farms are corporations as a way to protect assets from lawsuits, help on taxes, and protect the personal assets of a farmer from bankruptcy.

Land ownership is generally separate from a lot of row crop operations and some cattle farming operations as well. Dairy and hog operators typically own their facilities and chicken facilities involve land owners contracting to a vertically integrated firm like Tysons.

As a result, a lot of farmers farm large acreages but own little of the land (same as a lot of shop owners do not own their shop locations). I knew of families that farmed over 10000 acres as a small subchapter S corporation but owned less than 100 acres of that amount. The ones that typically owned their own land and operated it as mom and pop operations were produce farmers, dairy farmers, and hog farmers. The poultry farmers (broilers) were all tied up in contracts that basically resembled share cropping to be frank. The cattle ranchers were in between.

The true behemoths in the industry are the suppliers and processors--ConAgra, Monsanto, ADM, Tysons, Cargill, etc.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:59 PM (pO7gM)

345 There's a machine shop up the highway from here. There's been a "Help Wanted" sign outside almost continually since I moved here.

Don't know if that indicates a booming economy or unreasonably high employee turnover.

Posted by: creeper at February 02, 2021 03:59 PM (XxJt1)

346 So I am watching one of my favorite shows on Youtube, Rick Beato's examination of music and culture. He's a musician and producer, who was a unversity professor of music theory and he is fascinating to watch. I highly recommend.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 02, 2021 03:49 PM (KZzsI)

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Rick Beato is awesome!!!!!!!! His "What Makes This Song Great?" series is sooooooo good!!

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund) at February 02, 2021 03:59 PM (mZUr4)

347 Family farms are now boutique farms. Long on labor and short on profit. A few still struggling in VT.
Ever thought what it costs to replace the roof on a barn?

Posted by: Ziba at February 02, 2021 04:01 PM (S1hrL)

348 As to economies of scale, once your farm is big enough for industrial levels of equipment, the playing field is pretty level.
Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at February 02, 2021 03:57 PM (r1z5A)

There is a concept called minimum efficient scale, above which increasing scale of anything just adds managers and coordination problems without increasing productivity. I assume the MES for a farm is dictated by crop, location, local costs, taxes, etc., so it can't be a one-size-fits-all.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 04:01 PM (BMmaB)

349 What comes next?

Biden starts and deliberately loses a war with the Chicom.

Posted by: dferg at February 02, 2021 04:02 PM (HOKXY)

350 Disagree, YD. They are terrified of white nationalist domestic terrorists who don't exist.

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Disagree, Caesar. They're not afraid of us -- it's all disiinformation / psyops / gaslighting / faux rage and terror.

Like all totalitarian states, they must crush all dissent and that is their pretext.

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 04:03 PM (YeXB6)

351 280 Interesting point. In order to occupy and subvert the institutions they now wear like skin suits--academia, media, entertainment, and even the Church, to name a few--the left first had to kill them off and hollow them out. People can smell the rottenness of it all, even if they can't quite (or are afraid to) put it into words. It's becoming impossible for all but the most deluded zealots to ignore how fake and corrupt this entire system has become.

In capturing these institutions they had to completely undermine their authority; now they're desperately trying to stitch it back together with gaslighting and propaganda. It won't work.

Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at February 02, 2021 04:04 PM (0Uf+z)

352 Tom: you guys made a bad bet and lost.

That's the nature of gambling, and gambling is what you do for a living, no matter how much you might want to pretend otherwise.

Suck it up, pay up, and stop whining.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 04:04 PM (I8SZs)

353 The poultry farmers (broilers) were all tied up in contracts that basically resembled share cropping to be frank.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 03:59 PM (pO7gM)

Yes. The way to think of it is that you're just providing a little bit of land and a little bit of labor to the chicken company, and they pay you a little bit of money. It can't be a livelihood. You have to have some other job, whether farm work (could be on your own crops) or a job in town. My grandmother had 30,000 chickens, which was a decent supplement to Social Security and manageable for her.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 04:05 PM (BMmaB)

354 When the uniparty and the progressives drive their shit-car right OooOooo-ver the cliff ...
We'll still be standing.
And we won't miss them.

Posted by: Carly at February 02, 2021 04:05 PM (iFhQM)

355 Is Dana selling WallStreetBeets now?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 02, 2021 04:05 PM (63Dwl)

356 Real people will always be here.
Long after these fools eat each other.

Posted by: Carly at February 02, 2021 04:06 PM (iFhQM)

357 Rick Beato is awesome!!!!!!!! His "What Makes This Song Great?" series is sooooooo good!!

Posted by: Doof (Invested in Sonic the Hedge Fund)

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+1 and he's also a great interviewer -- check out his interview with Joe Satriani if you haven't seen it.

Posted by: ShainS at February 02, 2021 04:06 PM (YeXB6)

358 Disagree, YD. They are terrified of white nationalist domestic terrorists who don't exist.

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Disagree, Caesar. They're not afraid of us -- it's all disiinformation / psyops / gaslighting / faux rage and terror.

Like all totalitarian states, they must crush all dissent and that is their pretext.

Posted by: ShainS

Word. This isn't screaming out of fear--is is making us the hated enemy of the people. Time honored tactics, because they work.

Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Time to sign on with the Crimson Permanent Assurance at February 02, 2021 04:06 PM (OUMaO)

359 341
No. The redditors didn't usually buy on margin. Robinhood, after being pressured by Yellen, illegally interfered in trading and delisted GME. Then they sold other people's shares without authorization at an "Average" cost.
I don't know you, I don't trust you, and you are defending unethical, immoral, and by extension, illegal behavior on the side of the Dept of Treasury and Vice President Biden's "cabinet" people.
Go. Repent.

Posted by: Inspector Cussword at February 02, 2021 04:06 PM (1lKRm)

360 341, Tom from Wash Square,
Project much. Where did I call for death threats? Making pointless threats is stupid. It is curious that you raise the pension argument--it is because pension funds are eminently griftable, especially like CalPers that they desperately need above market returns in order to maintain their ponzi scheme.

But, you cannot stop the signal nor can you make the claims that people in hedge funds are honorable, etc. There are no facts in evidence that this is true. Essentially they have captured the regulators, they have bribed our politicians, and they have ravaged and destroyed companies and employment. Thus privatizing gains while placing the costs on everyone not a part of the hedge fund.

If no economy existed such as N. Korea, no hedge fund would exist because literally there is no surplus to grift. In a place like Venezuela, it would have no hedge fund as such because the grifters run the joint without a middle man.

Basically, everything done by a hedge fund can be done via other vehicles that allow popular participation--so why hedge funds?

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:07 PM (pO7gM)

361 Interesting point. In order to occupy and subvert the institutions they now wear like skin suits--academia, media, entertainment, and even the Church, to name a few--the left first had to kill them off and hollow them out. People can smell the rottenness of it all, even if they can't quite (or are afraid to) put it into words. It's becoming impossible for all but the most deluded zealots to ignore how fake and corrupt this entire system has become.

In capturing these institutions they had to completely undermine their authority; now they're desperately trying to stitch it back together with gaslighting and propaganda. It won't work.
Posted by: BunnyFooFoo at February 02, 2021 04:04 PM (0Uf+z)

I always wondered why the USSR went through the motions of having an elected legislature, passing laws almost unanimously, and pretending to have a state that was separate from the CPSU. The thin veneer of constitutionality must have been necessary at some point, but for what reason? Who was going to rise up and question the authority?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 04:08 PM (BMmaB)

362
Basically, everything done by a hedge fund can be done via other vehicles that allow popular participation--so why hedge funds?
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:07 PM (pO7gM)

Mutual funds on steroids.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 04:09 PM (49Dnm)

363 351 bunnyfoofoo, you noticed that too?

Essentially they remind me of the scene in the Wizard of Oz when the curtain is pulled by Toto for everyone to see who the Wizard really is.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:09 PM (pO7gM)

364 I knew that's what I was in for commenting here, but
I did it anyway so I have no one to blame but myself. But I'll tell
you something. Something none of you will believe, but at least I've
said it.

Most of the people in the hedge fund industry are more honorable,
decent, and honest than the people I meet in the street. They have to
be because success in the industry requires it. You treat hedge funds
like they're a single homogenous group because it serves your political
purposes. Does that sound like anyone else we know?

Posted by: Tom From WashSquare at February 02, 2021 03:58 PM (s0h8C)

And then his lips fell off from all the lying...

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 04:10 PM (946rW)

365 Disagree, Caesar. They're not afraid of us -- it's all disiinformation / psyops / gaslighting / faux rage and terror. Like all totalitarian states, they must crush all dissent and that is their pretext.
Posted by: ShainS

Word. This isn't screaming out of fear--is is making us the hated enemy of the people. Time honored tactics, because they work.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: Time to sign on with the Crimson Permanent Assurance at February 02, 2021 04:06 PM (OUMaO)

Oh, no question you're both right as to some of them. But I can tell you, most of them are not pretending to be afraid. They have made their own side afraid. Millions of them really think there's an armed insurrection out here just waiting to get the spark lit at Lexington and Concord.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 04:10 PM (BMmaB)

366 362, Catch 33, other investment vehicles have to operate in the open, hedge funds have special dispensation not to do so.

Special tax treatments for hedge fund investments as well.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:11 PM (pO7gM)

367 >>>I agree --inflation has to come... probably soon,

it's already here. you have to bid 25% above value on a home in Texas to have your offer even looked at.

Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 04:11 PM (oA+QO)

368 364 redbanzai,
LOL. Thanks for a bright spot today.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:12 PM (pO7gM)

369 I agree --inflation has to come... probably soon,

it's already here. you have to bid 25% above value on a home in Texas to have your offer even looked at.
Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 04:11 PM (oA+QO)

Bought meat lately?

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at February 02, 2021 04:12 PM (BMmaB)

370 353 Really tough work on poultry contracts and often the growers are often over a barrel regarding debts incurred to build the facilities.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:15 PM (pO7gM)

371 Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:12 PM (pO7gM)

You are welcome whig

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at February 02, 2021 04:16 PM (946rW)

372 Bought meat lately?
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon

only a couple of years worth so far.

Posted by: x4 at February 02, 2021 04:16 PM (oA+QO)

373 345 creeper, most of the younger generations have been trained to avoid any stench of manual labor. Thus, they don't have the skills to do any machine work nor an inclination.

Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:17 PM (pO7gM)

374 366 362, Catch 33, other investment vehicles have to operate in the open, hedge funds have special dispensation not to do so.

Special tax treatments for hedge fund investments as well.
Posted by: whig at February 02, 2021 04:11 PM (pO7gM)

Hence part of the reasoning for my saying "mutual funds on steroids". As you said, mutual funds (falling under the category "other investment vehicles") operate in the open. AND in most cases anyone can jump in. Hedge funds? Methinks they'd look at my paltry portfolio, and laugh.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 04:26 PM (49Dnm)

375 I've decided I need to live, to the best of my ability, without fear.
What's the worst that can happen? Eternity in heaven with Jesus and the people I love.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at February 02, 2021 04:29 PM (lgiXo)

376 What's this about DJT Jr and Cruz? Didn't see anything from them...

Posted by: geewhiz at February 02, 2021 04:31 PM (ih1HZ)

377 250 > I think in the 70's we at least had some shards of industry left in America. Do we even have a foundation to rebuild on?

We still have a surprising amount of manufacturing here, despite everything the Uniparty has done to destroy it.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at February 02, 2021 03:38 PM (I8SZs)

We do lots of manufacturing here despite the propaganda to the contrary and the vast efforts of labor unions, local governments, and regulation on all levels to run it off.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 04:40 PM (49Dnm)

378 If the Feds solution to funding is to crank up the printing presses at the Treasury to eleventy, why do we even need to pay taxes? Just print it. It's monopoly money.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 02, 2021 04:43 PM (hKi6n)

379 378 If the Feds solution to funding is to crank up the printing presses at the Treasury to eleventy, why do we even need to pay taxes? Just print it. It's monopoly money.
Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 02, 2021 04:43 PM (hKi6n)

That's it. Keep blaming them and not the Volkskammer for spending the money. Your representative in the Volkskammer is thanking you.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 05:07 PM (49Dnm)

380 379 378 If the Feds solution to funding is to crank up the printing presses at the Treasury to eleventy, why do we even need to pay taxes? Just print it. It's monopoly money.
Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 02, 2021 04:43 PM (hKi6n)

That's it. Keep blaming them and not the Volkskammer for spending the money. Your representative in the Volkskammer is thanking you.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 02, 2021 05:07 PM (49Dnm)

Sorry I left the "s" off Feds. I meant Congress not the Federal Reserve. Also, simply an observation, not an accusation.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at February 02, 2021 05:19 PM (hKi6n)

381 Why, oh why , did I ever leave the farm.

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