Homeowner Shoots Four Armed Men Who Break Into His House, Killing Two

And the other two will be charged for felony murder. They committed a felony which resulted, indirectly, in the deaths of two people. It doesn't matter that those two people were their accomplices. That's the neat thing about the felony murder charge.

A little good news in a month that's had very little of it.

Meanwhile, heavily-recruited Think Tank candidate S.E. Cupp, noted libertarian and gunt-haver, is demanding more laws to take citizens' guns away.

CNN resident conservative blames and wants to change gun laws for Sandy Hook. Performing their news. pic.twitter.com/q20cC6fvxq
— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) December 15, 2020

Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

In other words, just a sneering liberal.

And of course: 90% of the "conservative" media, and 90% of "conservative" institutions like Heritage, is staffed by libertarians.

This is why we lose. We give all our plum persuasion/policy-pushing positions to sneering liberals. And somehow we expect this will work out well for us.

Posted by: Ace at 12:04 PM

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1 Nice shootin', Tex!

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2020 12:06 PM (jacU8)

2 first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

3 dammit

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:06 PM (LvTSG)

4 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

In other words, just a sneering liberal.

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I remember when I thought otherwise.

Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool. Libertarians pretty universally suck.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

5 It's so strange. She was a smoke show in the past and like all things left, the further left they go, the uglier they get inside and out.

Posted by: stourma at December 15, 2020 12:07 PM (bbYBJ)

6 What's that slag still on about Sandy Hook for?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 15, 2020 12:07 PM (vg8iE)

7 I'm nominating SE Cupp as Secretary of Dick. The Senate confirmation should be lit AF!

Posted by: Joe Biden, Certainly Not a Stooge at December 15, 2020 12:08 PM (sWM8x)

8 I do think about firearms issues as a mother. As a mother who taught my children the safe handling and use of firearms and developed them into accomplished and competitive marksmen with a variety of different firearms. I think about it as a Coach who other mothers and fathers bring their kids to my range to teach their children the safe handling and use of firearms and developed them into accomplished and competitive marksmen with a variety of different firearms.

Posted by: 2nd Amendment Mother at December 15, 2020 12:08 PM (V6j8C)

9

Heh, t-bird
My first thought had Whoa, whoa, whoa on the front of your @1.

Posted by: TeeJ at December 15, 2020 12:08 PM (EKYdb)

10 6
What's that slag still on about Sandy Hook for?

it's an easy chain of thought to follow: holiday time -> christmas -> santa claus -> sandy claws -> sandy hook

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 15, 2020 12:09 PM (sGtp+)

11 Tenth!

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 15, 2020 12:09 PM (oGBso)

12 Yeah, sure they were.

Posted by: The Earl of Sandwich at December 15, 2020 12:09 PM (4baX4)

13 I'm guessing the training for four armed intruders is a little more intense than my "Introduction to Pistol" NRA class.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2020 12:09 PM (BvZkh)

14 Speaking of buxom lasses:

Donatella Damiani vs. Anita Ekberg

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

15 Attention all home burglars wanting to both live and actually pull of a burglary:

Through my deductive reasoning, I believe that there is a very good chance that S. E. Cupp does not own a firearm.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 15, 2020 12:10 PM (ch6++)

16 I get really annoyed at some of the dumb that conflates libertarian with anarchist with crazy-pants fascist but I can see where it comes from sometimes. If someone calling for gun control is also calling themselves libertarian it's easy to see how people get confused.

People who continue to dance their political ideology polka on the graves of those children make me sick.

Particularly as that masacre is nearly text book, not about guns, but about mental illness.

Posted by: Synova at December 15, 2020 12:10 PM (BD/yx)

17 Ace, I know I'm going off topic, but have you thought about putting together a post about what we actually know about this election? Not speculation, not second/third hand knowledge, but what we actually know. In what I do for work, all I'm concerned about are the facts, something that I can actually put on paper, take to Command/Legal and say, here, this shit actually happened and here's what I have that shows that it actually happened. Sorry to go OT right after you posted this.

Posted by: stourma at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (bbYBJ)

18 Post WWII the libertarians anchored the right, while the progressives anchored the left. Conservatives were the "center" and split between blue-collar conservatives, who generally sided with the left over public schools, the social safety net, etc., and white-collar conservatives, who sided with the right over free-trade and fewer regulations.

After the fall of the USSR, and the end of communism as an existential threat to the West, both sides abandoned conservatives. Both despised them, and the libertarians were more than willing to make common cause with the left over drugs, promiscuity, and open borders.

The problem, of course, is that the right's arguments were built from a libertarian basis, not a conservative one. As a result, we've basically allowed ourselves to be painted into a logical corner.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (jOcSX)

19 S.E. Cupp is welcome to come knock on the door and ask if I have any firearms. Bitch may not like the response, but she is welcome to come ask.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (N39Ws)

20 Excellent gun control: 50% of the perps down in a highly stressed situation.

Posted by: Roy at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (H3Rzy)

21
Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

_________

And pick up whores without being arrested.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (mht8P)

22 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

In other words, just a sneering liberal.

That's a classic right there.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (9IdCK)

23

I noticed even William Jacobson has given up on this election.

Where things stand at this hour
Posted by William A. Jacobson

The judicial option for fighting the election has come to a close, now comes the time to organize.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:12 PM (sfhL4)

24 5 It's so strange. She was a smoke show in the past and like all things left, the further left they go, the uglier they get inside and out.++++++++++++++++

Back in the early days of PJTV with Katie Pavlich and Alexis Garcia. Hubba Hubba

Posted by: Central Scrutinzer at December 15, 2020 12:12 PM (vI+F1)

25
The judicial option for fighting the election has come to a close, now comes the time to organize.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:12 PM (sfhL4)

_________

Don't mourn, organize!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:13 PM (mht8P)

26 She's rubbing that scamper raw now that Biden is POTUS-Elect.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 15, 2020 12:13 PM (I8FKK)

27 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

Yeah, I just commented yesterday or so that I am forever done with the rag Reason.com; those cocksuckers hate anyone that ever supported Trump, and it seems only fair to hate 'em back.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (veMj1)

28 7 I'm nominating SE Cupp as Secretary of Dick. The Senate confirmation should be lit AF!
Posted by: Joe Biden, Certainly Not a Stooge
_____________

Uh, Joe, uh, uh, I used to be a constitutional law professor, and, uh, there's nothing that, uh, says you can't appoint me to that cabinet position.

Posted by: Low Information Ex-President and Dog-Eater at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (9vQJW)

29 And of course: 90% of the "conservative" media, and 90% of "conservative" institutions like Heritage, is staffed by libertarians.

This is why we lose. We give all our plum persuasion/policy-pushing positions to sneering liberals. And somehow we expect this will work out well for us.

Posted by: Ace at 12:04 PM

In the church they're called modernists. Old joke/truth from the tv show Yes, Minister.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (Zm+LZ)

30 It's so strange. She was a smoke show in the past and like all things left, the further left they go, the uglier they get inside and out.

Her libertarianism was about social positioning, it allowed her access to the media and to the NY/DC political circuit in a way that she wouldn't have if she was just another liberal twenty-something. It's the political version of the artsy chick who smoked foreign cigarettes and wore a beret because she thought it made her cool.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (jOcSX)

31 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

In other words, just a sneering liberal.

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Totally agree. Seeing "libertarians" on Twitter advocating contract tracing and lockdowns showed me that finally.

Posted by: Adrienne at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (lVcuh)

32 Don't mourn, organize!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:13 PM (mht8P)

no, I want Trump to go scorched earth. I'm not kidding.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (sfhL4)

33 There's not a day that goes by that I don't think of these parents.

I'll take Things That Don't Happen for $600, Alex.

Posted by: spindrift at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (eXtwt)

34

Yes, time to end this fraud of "libertarian party"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (sfhL4)

35 I think people like her should proudly display a...Guns Have No Home Here... sign on the front lawn, a big fucking sign at that.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (JAQN/)

36 31 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

In other words, just a sneering liberal.

-----

Totally agree. Seeing "libertarians" on Twitter advocating contract tracing and lockdowns showed me that finally.
Posted by: Adrienne at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (lVcuh)

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That they didn't see Donald Trump as the best imperfect vessel for constitutional libertarianism they were ever going to get wasn't a big mystery once you realize that they're as driven by cultural mores as any brainless progressive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (LvTSG)

37 There's not a day that goes by that I don't think of these parents.

I'll take Things That Don't Happen for $600, Alex.
========

Exactly. Especially if you're not a parent.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (vg8iE)

38 She's rubbing that scamper raw now that Biden is POTUS-Elect.

Not with seven (!) dueling slates of electors, he isn't.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (8DRUP)

39 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

_________

And pick up whores without being arrested.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (mht8P)
---------------------------------

And not only just pick up whores without being arrested, but pretend whoring is a noble profession, because it's "sex work" done by "sex workers".

Which provides cover for all of the other illegality of the whore trade, like human trafficking, and pimping, pedophilia & pederasty, illegal immigration, and so forth. Hey, it's that 10 year olds RIGHT to sell their body and live in bondage.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (oGBso)

40
no, I want Trump to go scorched earth. I'm not kidding.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette

_______

A joke. It's an old commie slogan. Be a hoot to use it on progs now.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (mht8P)

41 Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

Just listen to the Timpf idiot on Gutfeld's show (which I do not watch anymore either). She never makes sense.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (sfhL4)

42 >>> "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

In other words, just a sneering liberal.

Not all Liberals sneer. Jonah Goldberg doesn't have the chin for it. So he snarks.

Posted by: Del Gue at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (GA8EQ)

43 Exactly. Especially if you're not a parent.
Posted by: bicentennialguy at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (vg8iE)

She finally had a kid a few years ago, of course right when she hit the wall and realized that her fertile years were basically wasted. I wonder how much money was spent in that desperate attempt.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (jOcSX)

44 A joke. It's an old commie slogan. Be a hoot to use it on progs now.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:16 PM (mht8P)

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (sfhL4)

45 I think people like her should proudly display a...Guns Have No Home Here... sign on the front lawn, a big fucking sign at that.

And "Doors Have No Locks Here"

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (8DRUP)

46 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

47 If you really wanted to look at Sandy Hook as moms and dads you would be advocating for institutionalizing the mentally ill. Everyone knew that kid was crazy, but because of the state of our laws regarding institutionalization, forced on us by the left (former) libertarians, you can't put a crazy person into a mental hospital until after the murder spree.

Posted by: motionview (I also desperately want to believe) at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (pYQR/)

48 To be fair not all libertarians are like S.E. Cupp. There are some who are what we would call red pilled Dave Smith, Tom Woods (a very failed podcaster), and Michael Malice come to mind.

Posted by: Augustine at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (Alp4m)

49 Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Open borders*.
Libertarian as an ideology sucks.

*It's in their national platform.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (S3Inb)

50 Meanwhile the drugs people like this infected slash think are just wonderful, kill more people then guns combined.

But you keep smoking that shit.

Molon labe

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (FGbUr)

51 Just bought a Mossberg Maverick 88 shotgun, pistol grip (I have short arms) for $199 at Academy Sports. Limit one per customer.

Posted by: Carmenzoid at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (9sa5h)

52 But if I say nice things about her on twitter, maybe she'll like me.

I mean, that's the whole Conserva-THOT thing in a nutshell, isn't it?

Posted by: Josephistan at December 15, 2020 12:19 PM (55rof)

53 Was this posted earlier? I have no idea who CodeMonkeyZ is or if he is in the know, or Q's son or whatever, but I find this interesting in that Trump retweeted it (I don't think I have seen Trump retweet Z before):

https://tinyurl.com/yc6n6co5

Posted by: DJ at December 15, 2020 12:19 PM (O3/K+)

54 Posted by: Del Gue at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (GA8EQ)

"Mother never raised a foolish child"

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2020 12:19 PM (AwYPR)

55 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.
Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

No, it's long established that if someone dies during the commission of a crime, the criminal gets charged with murder.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 15, 2020 12:19 PM (jOcSX)

56 49 Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Open borders*.
Libertarian as an ideology sucks.

*It's in their national platform.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (S3Inb)

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Like any ideology, the party doesn't always reflect the actual ideology and there are disagreements within the movement.

There is a strain of libertarianism that advocates for closed borders, but they have no power within the actual Libertarian Party. Same thing with pro-life libertarians.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:19 PM (LvTSG)

57 I'm doing about a 4 hour round trip drive tomorrow to pick up a new gun and some ammo. In CA, you do what it takes.

Sadly, I'm afraid I can't resist taking all of my firearms on periodic kayak rides in the SF bay. Dumb, I know. It could end badly and I'd be back at square one.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (L8ADy)

58 If you really wanted to look at Sandy Hook as moms and dads you would be advocating for institutionalizing the mentally ill. Everyone knew that kid was crazy, but because of the state of our laws regarding institutionalization, forced on us by the left (former) libertarians, you can't put a crazy person into a mental hospital until after the murder spree.
Posted by: motionview

One would also advocate for them no longer being the softest target.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (S3Inb)

59 I'd love to bang Cupp.

Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (IKSVy)

60 I'm not saying the people posting that here are sneering liberals. But they've bought into the Heritage and Fux Noise propaganda over the decades. Whaaaaaaa? Raise taxes on someone earning $100M a year? Quick to my fainting couch, fellow patriotic conservative patriot who loves patriotism. We have to stop that or America as we know it will end. And here is Karl Rove, a fellow patriotic patriot who loves patriotism to tell you why.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 15, 2020 12:14 PM (22mNy)

I used to be of this position, because I thought-- still do-- that high taxes are generally bad and serve to retard economic growth and people building personal wealth and security, which is one of the cornerstones of having a healthy middle class.

However, since the Billionaire's Club has gone all in on progressivism and are supporting policies that will bone everyone of my economic demographic, race, religion and ethnicity... Fuck them. Tax them til they bleed and beg for death.

IMO: None of this will get fixed until a mega-crash makes the current system unworkable for those in power. While the dollar still has worth, they will print them and give them to their friends, who will use them to squish you. As long as they can make the rotten house still stand, they will, and we will never see meaningful change.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (gAFsE)

61 Sandy Hook was a tragedy for sure but blaming guns is as dumb as you can get. The shooter was autistic with violent tendencies and should not have access to firearms. His mom made a terrible mistake and she along with innocent kids paid with their lives.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (a0IVu)

62 38
She's rubbing that scamper raw now that Biden is POTUS-Elect.

Not with seven (!) dueling slates of electors, he isn't.

2020: come for the electoral college, stay for the electoral thunderdome

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (sGtp+)

63 And thus begins the next round of "gun debates."

**spits**

Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2020 12:21 PM (axyOa)

64
Two shot, two fried.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:21 PM (mht8P)

65 60 I used to be of this position, because I thought-- still do-- that high taxes are generally bad and serve to retard economic growth and people building personal wealth and security, which is one of the cornerstones of having a healthy middle class.

However, since the Billionaire's Club has gone all in on progressivism and are supporting policies that will bone everyone of my economic demographic, race, religion and ethnicity... Fuck them. Tax them til they bleed and beg for death.

IMO: None of this will get fixed until a mega-crash makes the current system unworkable for those in power. While the dollar still has worth, they will print them and give them to their friends, who will use them to squish you. As long as they can make the rotten house still stand, they will, and we will never see meaningful change.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (gAFsE)

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I had a moment yesterday where I saw a headline that some progressive lawmaker was advocating for, I think, an 80% tax on corporations.

My knee jerk reaction was, "that's a dumb idea that's bad."

Half a second later, I said to myself, "Have at it. Don't give a shit."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

66 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.
Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

No, it's long established that if someone dies during the commission of a crime, the criminal gets charged with murder.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile

Same reason they charge the getaway driver with bank robbery.
Otherwise, why should they? He wasn't in the bank and he didn't rob anyone.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 12:22 PM (S3Inb)

67 I had a moment yesterday where I saw a headline that some progressive lawmaker was advocating for, I think, an 80% tax on corporations.

My knee jerk reaction was, "that's a dumb idea that's bad."

Half a second later, I said to myself, "Have at it. Don't give a shit."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:21 PM (LvTSG)

We want instability in the system going forward, not stability.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 15, 2020 12:22 PM (Zm+LZ)

68 I remember when I thought otherwise.
Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool. Libertarians pretty universally suck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

I was attracted to libertarianism when the party of my father, the Republicans, seemed to me to have abandoned the principles of limited government and individual liberty.

I even voted for the LP candidate for President once (a symbolic gesture, as the outcome in my state was same as always).

Then I went to an election night gathering with LParty folk, as I had gone to GOP election parties with Dad. And I met Libertarian Party people.

That cured me.

Posted by: mindful webworker
♪ Rudolpho he had dis red nose
at December 15, 2020 12:22 PM (wmyHK)

69 Using the Amazon Smile donation program, the notoriously left-wing anti-gun Amazon has donated greater than $87,000 to the California rifle and pistol association, apparently without ever noticing... HAHA, take it dry up the ass you cunts!

Posted by: 'Mike' HOLMES at December 15, 2020 12:22 PM (SFdNn)

70 I remember when I thought otherwise.

Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool. Libertarians pretty universally suck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

Yep, Libertarians are generally Larpers, going around quoting Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard... or whichever other dead people they fanboi for.

Not fair to the dead libertarians, but it kinda makes me not want to care what they had to say.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (hku12)

71 Gun ownership is growing geometrically. A lot of it is due to safety issues created by Democrats.

But yeah, let's talk about neutering the Second Amendment, clown.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (VpIIl)

72 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

That idea, or statute, has been around for a long time. Three guys go in to rob a place, one of them shoots the other; the surviving two can be charged with murder.

Yeah, that's nothing new.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (veMj1)

73 Was this posted earlier? I have no idea who CodeMonkeyZ is or if he is in the know, or Q's son or whatever, but I find this interesting in that Trump retweeted it (I don't think I have seen Trump retweet Z before):

https://tinyurl.com/yc6n6co5
Posted by: DJ at December 15, 2020 12:19 PM (O3/K+)

CodemonkeyZ (Ron) is former admin of 8chan/8kun. He's been working with Sidney and Lin on vulnerabilities and has been interviewed on OAN. He and a bunch of other #digitalwarriors have been relentlessly digging, and finding an occasional nugget.

I think Trump has retweeted him, Flynn definitely has and a few others, as have Lin and Sidney.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (L8ADy)

74 Louisiana, an hour north of New Orleans, because I doubt I was the only one wondering.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks have likely been trying to vote their way out of Democrat slavery for decades at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (ylp2r)

75

If C Cupp didn't have a nice rack she wouldn't have a career. She is the epitome of Shut up and show us your tits.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (B8b0n)

76 The problem, of course, is that the right's arguments were built from a libertarian basis, not a conservative one. As a result, we've basically allowed ourselves to be painted into a logical corner.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 15, 2020 12:11 PM (jOcSX)

The bigger problem is force wins over logic every time. And one side is willing to use force against us, while our side is only willing to use force against.... us.

Posted by: ... at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (uEbPt)

77 70 I remember when I thought otherwise.

Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool. Libertarians pretty universally suck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

Yep, Libertarians are generally Larpers, going around quoting Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard... or whichever other dead people they fanboi for.

Not fair to the dead libertarians, but it kinda makes me not want to care what they had to say.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (hku12)

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I thought Libertarians were all Milton Friedman.

Then I learned that they're all Nick Gillespie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (LvTSG)

78 As an actual Libertarian, I am now convinced that the GOP policy of open borders is far superior to the Libertarian policy.

Also John McCain was a great man. As is GA Gov. Kemp.

The GOP has been fighting so hard for Trump in fact that I may reregister.

Posted by: nip at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (cpS4u)

79 >>>And the other two will be charged for felony murder. They committed a felony which resulted, indirectly, in the deaths of two people.
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If that is true, anf insofar as ghat goes, THAT is a DA doing his or her job.

Posted by: Gilded at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (BRkq2)

80
Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs.

And have abortions

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (63Dwl)

81 If C Cupp didn't have a nice rack she wouldn't have a career. She is the epitome of Shut up and show us your tits.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (B8b0n)

Also known as Tits or GTFO.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (gAFsE)

82 70 I remember when I thought otherwise.

Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool. Libertarians pretty universally suck.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:07 PM (LvTSG)

Yep, Libertarians are generally Larpers, going around quoting Ayn Rand and Murray Rothbard... or whichever other dead people they fanboi for.

Not fair to the dead libertarians, but it kinda makes me not want to care what they had to say.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (hku12)

Well for what it's worth Ayn Rand didn't like libertarians.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (Zm+LZ)

83 Putting it together in retrospect, I think the real reason that Libertarianism had a big surge was because the tech billionaires like Bezos and Gates were funding the movement - think tanks, etc - because they saw how easily it could be used to subvert and take over much of the supposed "conservative" establishment. And of course, their only real ideology is More Money and Power to the corporations they control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (Kpl3J)

84 52 ftw

Posted by: Gilded at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (BRkq2)

85 More fascism and violating our Constitutional rights. For the children.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (nakwk)

86 71 Gun ownership is growing geometrically. A lot of it is due to safety issues created by Democrats.

But yeah, let's talk about neutering the Second Amendment, clown.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (VpIIl)
===

Not to mention 3D printing of guns has come a long way since the first one 8 years ago now.

Posted by: Augustine at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (Alp4m)

87
That idea, or statute, has been around for a long time. Three guys go in to rob a place, one of them shoots the other; the surviving two can be charged with murder.

Yeah, that's nothing new.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (veMj1)

_________

Unfortunately, unless you're the one who pulled the trigger you usually don't get the maximum.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (mht8P)

88 His mom made a terrible mistake and she along with innocent kids paid with their lives.
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (a0IVu)

What exactly was the terrible mistake his mom made?
Was it having the gun in a locked safe in her home, or was it letting him kill her to get at the gun?

Posted by: OneEyedJack, asshole in hiding at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (z79tQ)

89 "not a day goes by" that you don't think of the Sandy Hook parents?

Sure.

You think of the families of the Lubys' killings too?

I'm sure you know the one I mean.

The one where there was a gun owner in the restaurant who had to leave her gun in her car due to firearms laws in Texas at the time? And watch her parents die?

"I think of them every day" is bullshit, and shorthand for "I put an appointment in my calendar for this date so I could preen"

Posted by: TexasDan at December 15, 2020 12:26 PM (2HIdp)

90 15 !!!! boom

Posted by: Gilded at December 15, 2020 12:26 PM (BRkq2)

91 75If C Cupp didn't have a nice rack she wouldn't have a career. She is the epitome of Shut up and show us your tits.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (B8b0n)
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Yep if she hadn't been smart enough to get on board early with the graft that is Conservative Inc she would be just another chick on Only Fans right now.

Posted by: Augustine at December 15, 2020 12:26 PM (Alp4m)

92 I was attracted to libertarianism when the party of my father, the Republicans, seemed to me to have abandoned the principles of limited government and individual liberty.

I even voted for the LP candidate for President once (a symbolic gesture, as the outcome in my state was same as always).

Then I went to an election night gathering with LParty folk, as I had gone to GOP election parties with Dad. And I met Libertarian Party people.

That cured me.
Posted by: mindful webworker
Rudolpho he had dis red nose
at December 15, 2020 12:22 PM (wmyHK)

I never voted for the Libertarian, because there was always some other protest candidate who seemed more deserving of the crumbs I could send them.

First time I voted third party, I went for... I think it was Harry Brown, the Conservative Party, in '96.

No way I was voting for Dole.

Pretty sure in '08 I voted for myself, or someone like Mickey Mouse. In '12, I think I voted for Vermin Supreme.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:26 PM (hku12)

93 78 As an actual Libertarian, I am now convinced that the GOP policy of open borders is far superior to the Libertarian policy.

Also John McCain was a great man. As is GA Gov. Kemp.

The GOP has been fighting so hard for Trump in fact that I may reregister.
Posted by: nip at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (cpS4u)

So your point is that the worst Republicans are as bad as Libertarians? I think ace was saying that.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (Zm+LZ)

94
There's not a day that goes by without you [S. E. Cupp] "thinking of those parents?"

Yeah? Bull fooking shit. Take your cheap, tawdry and transparent virtue signaling and shove it up your prolapsed anus, you sniveling scrunt.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (pNxlR)

95 She's just conservative/libertarian cosplay, hoping for some attention and cash from lonely weirdos

Posted by: Josephistan at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (55rof)

96 Sandy Hook? thank a teacher's son.

Posted by: x at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (0tE/i)

97 or if he is in the know, or Q's son or whatever,

Ron is Jim Watkins' son, the owner of 8kun. He is very much in the know, from what he's been uncovering about Dominion's election fraud. He recently posted a trove of photos of governors, et al. posing with Chinese officials, which was fun. The picture of Christine "Fang Fang" Fang with the mayor of Fremont, CA is one for the ages.

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (8DRUP)

98 It's weird. Warrants were issued for the two men, but no pictures or descriptions are posted in any of the news articles I saw.

I wonder why that is?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks have likely been trying to vote their way out of Democrat slavery for decades at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (ylp2r)

99 What exactly, which positions, bestowed "conservative" moniker on her ? Just because she was on Fox ? Juan Williams is on Fox.

Posted by: runner at December 15, 2020 12:28 PM (zr5Kq)

100 71 Gun ownership is growing geometrically. A lot of it is due to safety issues created by Democrats.

But yeah, let's talk about neutering the Second Amendment, clown.
Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (VpIIl)

Position 1: Prohibition was a horrible idea. It drove an activity enjoyed by millions of people underground and created a massive violent criminal class (Mafia) and made them rich.

Position 2: The War on Drugs is a horrible idea. It creates a massive violent criminal class (cartels) and makes them rich. People have a right to do what they want with their own bodies.

Position 3: WE MUST BAN GUNS.

???????

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:28 PM (gAFsE)

101 I think the real reason that Libertarianism had a big surge was because the tech billionaires

The reason libertarianism had a big surge is because conservatives found it impossible to publicly say they disapproved of homosexuality. Social conservatism is just to judgmental and icky.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 15, 2020 12:28 PM (H5knJ)

102 Is it big news that Barr is stepping down? When Phony Fraud Biden is installed into the WH, he'd be gone anyway.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (O+I8R)

103 That scold has not aged well.

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (M+Lyo)

104 If C Cupp didn't have a nice rack she wouldn't have a career. She is the epitome of Shut up and show us your tits.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (B8b0n)

I don't know why some of you are so enamored with breasts. To the point where you think these broads get hired for them.

No, I think you have to be open to the fact that every dame has a pair of breasts. What every dame DOESN'T necessarily have, is a willing mouth.

Sorry, the casting couch is alive and well, and may work just as hard in teevee nooz biz as it does in Hollowwood.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

105 88 His mom made a terrible mistake and she along with innocent kids paid with their lives.
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (a0IVu)

What exactly was the terrible mistake his mom made?
Was it having the gun in a locked safe in her home, or was it letting him kill her to get at the gun?
Posted by: OneEyedJack, asshole in hiding at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (z79tQ)

...

In a world where we cannot help the mentally ill and their loved ones by providing care for them in a secure, separate environment, I don't see what the mom could have done.

She tried hard to basically treat her son herself. Maybe it would have been better to not have firearms at all in the home, but I think he was violent and would have found them one way or another.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (2HIdp)

106 Sandy Hook was a tragedy for sure but blaming guns is as dumb as you can get. The shooter was autistic with violent tendencies and should not have access to firearms. His mom made a terrible mistake and she along with innocent kids paid with their lives.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 15, 2020 12:20 PM (a0IVu)
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The father walked out on that family, abandoned the mother and the crazy son, and started a new family.

The older brother had grown up and left home, was living in NYC as I recall.

The mother was left to care for a severely mentally ill young man, at home, by herself. She loved him and tried to help him but the hobby he was interested in, and that she took up - firearms - ended up killing her and the others.

They were well off, the worthless father who abandoned them was supporting them financially, and that allowed her to keep the son's craziness hidden until it was too late.

Mentally ill young men in the ghetto come to the attention of the authorities far younger and get involved in the criminal justice system, for what that's worth.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (oGBso)

107 If C Cupp didn't have a nice rack she wouldn't have a career. She is the epitome of Shut up and show us your tits.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (B8b0n)

Even worse, she never has afaik.

Of course, I welcome someone proving me wrong.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (veMj1)

108 72 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

That idea, or statute, has been around for a long time. Three guys go in to rob a place, one of them shoots the other; the surviving two can be charged with murder.

Yeah, that's nothing new.
Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2020 12:23 PM (veMj1)

Not all States have it, or use it aggressively. I know for a fact that Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, and Georgia use this law aggressively - there was a case exactly like this in my town 2 weeks ago. 4 guys invaded a house, homeowner killed one of them with his gun, the 3 surviving home invaders are all being charged with murder, the homeowner who pulled the trigger, no charges, more like a medal of honor.

The idea behind Felony Murder is that if you are committing a felony, and someone dies for any reason due to the chain of events you kicked off with your felony, then you are guilty of felony murder. Moral of the story - Don't Commit Felonies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (Kpl3J)

109 I love stories with a happy ending!

Posted by: Dad of Six at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (0krk8)

110 I still think Libertarian glasses are hot.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 15, 2020 12:30 PM (t+qrx)

111
Leonard Bernstein came up to the widow of composer Irving Fine and gushed, "Oh Vera, there's not a day that goes by when I don't think of Irving!" She snapped back, "He was my husband and there are plenty of days I don't think of Irving."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:30 PM (mht8P)

112 That is good news, thanks Ace

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:30 PM (ifmtJ)

113 Yes, I read Glenn Reynold's InstaPundit, but I am trying to break the habit. From what I see, Glenn and his Libertarian buddies float above it all. Liberal policies don't impact them or their families so just a matter for humor.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (+CiEK)

114 Also, naked pictures of S.E. Cupp would also be good.

Just sayin'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (ifmtJ)

115 102 Is it big news that Barr is stepping down? When Phony Fraud Biden is installed into the WH, he'd be gone anyway.

It just made it look like a rat deserting a sinking ship..Not helpful to the President.

Posted by: It's me donna at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (Zmnko)

116 I've started to differentiate big "L" Libertarian from little "l" libertarianism WITHIN the constitutional framework.

We have a lot of freedom and the right to be left alone for the most part, but that extends toward citizens and toward rights within the constitutional framework.

Has nothing to do with the rest of the world, and is framed within our constitution for OUR citizens

Posted by: buanadha at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (WYheA)

117 I have no factual knowledge of the Louisiana shootout . . . but I'm getting a faint "There's more to it" vibe. That isn't the kind of place for a random home invasion robbery, especially since rural Louisianians tend to have a shitload of guns in the house.

I'm betting on a somebody owed somebody something scenario.

Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (QZxDR)

118 -- "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs. --

Ace, I thought you of all people would know better. But never mind.

Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (z/nZY)

119 On this day, Dec 15, 2020, The Blaze is formally recognized, by me, as a legitimate news source.

Sigh.

As Glenn so aptly put it, speaking of himself, years ago, "And the rodeo clown rode to the rescue."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (WEBkv)

120 Mind you, a 4 person home invasion is no joke.

I'm glad the citizen made it ok.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (ifmtJ)

121 98 It's weird. Warrants were issued for the two men, but no pictures or descriptions are posted in any of the news articles I saw.

I wonder why that is?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks have likely been trying to vote their way out of Democrat slavery for decades at December 15, 2020 12:27 PM (ylp2r)

heh. To belabor the obvious, it's because no one needs a picture to know what they looked like.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (Kpl3J)

122 Sandy Hook is an odd platform to mount a gun control argument from. Lanza obtained his guns by killing the gun owner (his mom).

If Cupp-size wants to argue the ability to kill gun owners and steal their guns is something we can legislate away, I don't know what to say. It's pants on head retarded.

Any moron can put together a slam-fire shotgun after a single, inexpensive trip to the hardware store. A $300 3d printer can make hundreds of lowers, the regulated "gun", and put together the rest with unregulated parts kits. If these somehow become illegal, the cartels will happily smuggle guns to people who want them.

Guns will not go away.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (i0wNm)

123 When I see S.E.Cupp I always think porn.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (CZm2G)

124 More fascism and violating our Constitutional rights. For the children.

--

Good thing we have the Constitution and the Supreme Court of the United States to protect us from this fascism and rights' violations. Excuse me, I forgot. We have those protections. We just don't have "standing."

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (O+I8R)

125 We are all "libertarians" ... that believe in Liberty. We all believe in minimal government intrusion in our sovereign lives and sovereign cities and sovereign states.

BUT what is deemed essential intervention, other than a military to fight foreign groups of invaders? imo we have to also fight domestic enemies on multiple fronts, one of the least recognized of which is the corporate monopolistic bully. (oh, and they fund these "libertarian" think tanks and the CoC ... Koch brothers funded Cato iirc.)

The fake "libertarians" that want to take guns, sure ... that will make life safe for the free people (assuming there are no bad people with guns, and that government does not become the worst of those bad people with guns, which is a Pollyanna Libertarian Idiot I suppose).

Posted by: illiniwek at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (Cus5s)

126 Is it big news that Barr is stepping down?

I think it's interesting news that neither he nor Trump have said he's stepping down, or resigning. Just that's he's going home for Christmas.

Also interesting: it's mid-December. Why do anything if you're supposedly gone in five weeks?

Posted by: t-bird at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (n/x6m)

127 20 x 365 and not a single day has gone by without this Media Fucktoy thinking about the Parents?

I call bullshit.

She didn't take one day off to think about the Parents of the kids in Florida?

Not one?

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (Gchh8)

128 Donatella Damiani vs. Anita Ekberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

Donatella is large, but not perky.

https://tinyurl.com/y8oy9bnc

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (2JVJo)

129 Would you leave the other two alive? He must have been stopped from killing them. He gotta know he will be harrassed by them (or their attorneys) until they die now.

Posted by: Silent at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (CrU4U)

130 Yes, I read Glenn Reynold's InstaPundit, but I am trying to break the habit. From what I see, Glenn and his Libertarian buddies float above it all. Liberal policies don't impact them or their families so just a matter for humor.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (+CiEK)

IMO Glenn is fine. Driscoll and Berenstein (spelling?)... Aren't.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (gAFsE)

131 >>When I see S.E.Cupp I always think

'...leave the glasses on, I'm getting close.'

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:33 PM (Gchh8)

132 Is putting a Guns Have No Home Here sign in the yard the same as hunting over bait? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2020 12:33 PM (kTF2Z)

133 Unfortunately, unless you're the one who pulled the trigger you usually don't get the maximum.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (mht8P)

That is absolutely true, but it has more to do with the 95% plea bargain version of Justice we see today.

Posted by: GnuBreed at December 15, 2020 12:33 PM (veMj1)

134 102
Is it big news that Barr is stepping down? When Phony Fraud Biden is installed into the WH, he'd be gone anyway.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (O+I8R)

Exactly. Just getting out early, presuming Biden is crowned.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at December 15, 2020 12:33 PM (N39Ws)

135
IMO Glenn is fine. Driscoll and Berenstein (spelling?)... Aren't.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (gAFsE)

________

Sarah Hoyt is the only good one left. Glenn is another public payroll leech who's not affected by all this.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:34 PM (mht8P)

136 "There's not a day that goes by that I don't think of these parents."

I'll take "Things that never happen" for a thousand, Alex...

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at December 15, 2020 12:34 PM (4uSHG)

137 Donatella is large, but not perky.

https://tinyurl.com/y8oy9bnc

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (2JVJo)

Destined for back problems.

Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2020 12:34 PM (AwYPR)

138 They're all whores, paid to write - from the most blatant trade rag hack to anchors on bigs.

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2020 12:34 PM (7yCTI)

139 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance

So, did you just want to know if I was joking or did you have some advice?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (CZm2G)

140
Let's look at gun laws not as partisan but as moms and dads....

Yes let's turn the country over to wine moms and their beta male husbands. Weak minded cretins who can't see the world past their noses.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (B8b0n)

141 >>Donatella is large, but not perky.

https://tinyurl.com/y8oy9bnc

Zounds!

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (Gchh8)

142 Find Solutions to what? Sandy Hook was 8 years ago.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (hXwHX)

143 I'm betting on a somebody owed somebody something scenario.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (QZxDR)

Even better, two of the attackers were father and son. The son is dead and Dad is locked up. It definitely whiffs of something more personal.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (gAFsE)

144 46 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.
Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

It's common that death while engaged in a felony attaches charges. This is not a new twist.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (zTThE)

145 If you really wanted to look at Sandy Hook as moms and dads you would be advocating for institutionalizing the mentally ill. Everyone knew that kid was crazy, but because of the state of our laws regarding institutionalization, forced on us by the left (former) libertarians, you can't put a crazy person into a mental hospital until after the murder spree.
Posted by: motionview

Yup....that kid was crazy as a shithouse rat.

Mom should have let him tend the rabbits.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (KdF3o)

146 Mind you, a 4 person home invasion is no joke.

I'm glad the citizen made it ok.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (ifmtJ)
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Hmm, when it comes to civilian combatant of the year, who wins?

Kyle Rittenhouse or this homeowner?

My vote is for Mr. Rittenhouse, because he fought on unfamiliar turf.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (WEBkv)

147 128 Donatella Damiani vs. Anita Ekberg
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)

Donatella is large, but not perky.

https://tinyurl.com/y8oy9bnc
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (2JVJo)

===========

That screengrab is from City of Women, which I watched last night.

She captured my attention.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (LvTSG)

148 >>Find Solutions to what?

Shirts that don't look good untucked.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (Gchh8)

149 I love Michael Malice, but this week he put up the shitlib chestnut "Mission Accomplished" on his twitter.

Mission =/= war. Too nuanced?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (Z0/z0)

150 Yeah I'm sure for 8 years she consistently thinks about these parents every day. She should spend more time thinking daily about her ever expanding ass.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (9Om/r)

151 The Sandy Hook thing must be the talking point of the day; KamelToe tweeted about it, too.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (DMUuz)

152 49 Libertarianism as an ideology is kind of cool.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

Open borders*.
Libertarian as an ideology sucks.

*It's in their national platform.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 12:18 PM (S3Inb)

Used to be the only ones saying Open Borders (Democrats taking that on is a joke, but they're all convinced that they've always been open borders because they have the memory of two year old.) BUT those Open Borders were part of a society where there was NO welfare or government assistance and no minimum wage and everyone had free association for work and was responsible for themselves and for those they freely chose to support.

Which might work as a concept if the rest of it were in any way possible. There'd no longer be an underclass that was unable to go to the police for assistance or unable to complain of mistreatment and anyone who wanted to leave again could do so.

Most libertarians I know now, even if they used to be open borders, accept and insist that it's just not practical because we DO have the extensive welfare state and we have the additional stupidity of trying to sign non-citizens up to vote or count them for representation. So now they're "build the wall" libertarians. Just on practical terms.

Posted by: Synova at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (BD/yx)

153 Reynolds is ok. Driscoll actually links to ace quite a bit.

The rest I could do without. Green and Hoyt both annoy me.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (jOcSX)

154 Good shooting!
Time to steal the lefty sjw girrrrl power theme "be your own hero".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (r+sAi)

155
If you really wanted to look at Sandy Hook as moms and dads you would be advocating for institutionalizing the mentally ill.

__________

Good way of taking care of the trannie movement.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (mht8P)

156 Guns will not go away.
Posted by: bonhomme

My kin have been burying guns in the woods since Reconstruction, guns will be here until someone develops something better or an awesome ballistic armor.

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (7yCTI)

157 Unfortunately, unless you're the one who pulled the trigger you usually don't get the maximum.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (mht8P)

From what I've observed over the years, Felony Murder is generally treated as Murder 2 (in some states) or Aggravated Manslaughter. Usual sentence in most jurisdictions is 15 - 20 years. It's not life, but it's a heavy sentence.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (Kpl3J)

158 151 The Sandy Hook thing must be the talking point of the day; KamelToe tweeted about it, too.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (DMUuz)

Senator Udall had it on his facebook the other day. Felt goulish.

Posted by: Synova at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (BD/yx)

159 The UFT (teachers Union) approved a program called "BLM at School" at their convention recently

It reflects all the Marxist ideas that even BLM removed from their website.

Trans-affirming, disrupting nuclear family etc...

https://tinyurl.com/ydxbyerm

what a sh*tshow our kids have to deal with.
for those who dont have enough sense or perhaps money to send to private schools

Posted by: McCool at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (XDHLd)

160
Even better, two of the attackers were father and son. The son is dead and Dad is locked up for felony murder of his son. It definitely whiffs of something more personal.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM

enhanced for clarity

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (8hUqJ)

161 >>When I see S.E.Cupp I always think

'...leave the glasses on, I'm getting close.'
Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:33 PM (Gchh

I wonder if she ever realizes she only has a career because dudes like the idea of ejaculating in her mouth.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (gAFsE)

162 -- "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs. --
----------------
Ace, I thought you of all people would know better. But never mind.
Posted by: Francis W. Porretto at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (z/nZY)

Strikes me as an awfully sneering response.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (hku12)

163 Cupp thinks about Sandy Hook every day? Suuuuuuuuure she does.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (O+I8R)

164 Good way of taking care of the trannie movement.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

Do you put away the confused kid or the evil parents

Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (7yCTI)

165 Ain't it great how the media picks who speaks for "us", then completely ignores 75 million people when it comes to voter fraud?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (VpIIl)

166 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (2JVJo)

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Great photo.

While she has obvious assets, the photo really captures her smile and laugh.

Thanks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (WEBkv)

167 S.E. Cupp is as libertarian as Mitt Romney is severely conservative. You should be more careful about alienating possible allies.

Posted by: BoinkBoink at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (pVj5b)

168 Back from my meeting with my future boss. Everything went well; he wanted to know what I handled here, who people were, etc. He was pleasant, but didn't smile much.

When he had a couple of questions I didn't know the answer to, as they were in areas I was not sure about, I told him, "I don't know, but I will find out." And I have, and have emailed him the answers.

The only problem is that his research areas (which thankfully I will have little to do with) are in social justice, income inequality, racial inequality, and redistribution of wealth. Exactly the kind of stuff I *don't* want even to hear about. No anti-Trump remarks from him, thank God.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (yvr3o)

169 Willowed computer backup because it's pretty important when you want to keep your stuff:

Yes, seriously.
I've got a WD external HD but I manually feed from my pc to it. - tedious and not too often

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:25 PM (CZm2G)

--

I've used Acronis True Image and Easeus ToDo, and I've finally moved to Easeus full time because Acronis isn't as intuitive as it needs to be and I am reluctant to talk my mother in law through it over the phone.

The process overall is fairly simple, and Easeus even has a free offering if you don't need anything fancy.

easeus.com/backup-software/

Essentially plug in your external drive and tell it to backup your computer.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Blacks have likely been trying to vote their way out of Democrat slavery for decades at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (44/1o)

170
Driscoll actually links to ace quite a bit.

________

Jim Treacher is his BFF.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (mht8P)

171 >>>Driscoll actually links to ace quite a bit.

not as much as he links never Trumpers

Posted by: x at December 15, 2020 12:39 PM (0tE/i)

172 >>I wonder if she ever realizes she only has a career because dudes like the idea of ejaculating in her mouth.

Or, glazing her like a Hot Krispy Keme donut...

with glasses.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:39 PM (Gchh8)

173 Cupp has spent every day for eight years thinking about Sandy Hook?!

I'm doubtful.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 15, 2020 12:39 PM (wGxSf)

174 I love the bold face lies that that Cupp woman does. It's what they do.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (7EHch)

175
Oh give me a fuckin' break. SE Cupp cares *so* much about THE CHILDREN, she thinks of those poor moppets at Sandy Hook every day.

LOL. Pull the other one, Chubbo. It jingles.

Cupp doesn't think about anything on a daily basis, beyond box wine and which net-exec she might be able to blow for a promotion.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (lvPHe)

176
Or, glazing her like a Hot Krispy Keme donut...

with glasses.

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 12:39 PM (Gchh

Glasses on a Kripsy Kreme donut? That's a pretty weird kink.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (nakwk)

177 The only thing a dunce like SE Cupp thinks about every day is how to put two cogent sentences together.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl)

178 166 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (2JVJo)

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Great photo.

While she has obvious assets, the photo really captures her smile and laugh.

Thanks.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (WEBkv)

+2

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (ifmtJ)

179 Most libertarians I know now, even if they used to be open borders, accept and insist that it's just not practical because we DO have the extensive welfare state and we have the additional stupidity of trying to sign non-citizens up to vote or count them for representation. So now they're "build the wall" libertarians. Just on practical terms.

Yes. This is where I am. The problem with Libertarians is they want to implement their agenda in full the day after the election without undoing 120 years of progressivism first.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (hXwHX)

180 Half a second later, I said to myself, "Have at it. Don't give a shit."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

They wanted the Libs in they now should get *exactly* what they paid for, good and hard.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 15, 2020 12:40 PM (gtatv)

181

Are we supposed to care about the GA elections after mcconnell endorses the dead guy and validates fraud as okay?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (sfhL4)

182 SE Cupp is a wasted porn name.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (hXwHX)

183 Cupp has spent every day for eight years thinking about Sandy Hook?!

I'm doubtful.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at December 15, 2020 12:39 PM (wGxSf)

Me too. Call me skeptical, but I don't think her brain has had a lucid thought since puberty.

Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (gmo/4)

184 Donatella is large, but not perky.

We're willing to work on a non-contract basis.

Posted by: International Brotherhood of Motorboaters; Local 102 at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (DMUuz)

185 Would you leave the other two alive?
Posted by: Silent at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM

Because they were no longer a threat?

Posted by: Chuck C at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (0koVc)

186 What makes you the resident conservative at CNN? Did she blow someone at the RNC one year?

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 12:42 PM (VpIIl)

187 I don't know why some of you are so enamored with breasts. To the point where you think these broads get hired for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

It's really about thousands of years of instinctual nature of man...

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 15, 2020 12:42 PM (zTThE)

188 She says " find solutions". Isn't that precious? Matched by " as Moms and Dads". What a smarmy, toxic bitch.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:42 PM (7EHch)

189 S.E. Cupp cares soooo much about Sandy Hook, but seems to give no fuks about thousands of children killed in the abortion clinics. Cognitive dissonance anyone?

She is a big titted imbecile.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 12:42 PM (o2MD2)

190 I wonder if she ever realizes she only has a career because dudes like the idea of ejaculating in her mouth.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (gAFsE)

Not sure, I'm at the point where I wouldn't even piss in her mouth if her teeth were on fire.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (9Om/r)

191 146 Mind you, a 4 person home invasion is no joke.

I'm glad the citizen made it ok.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (ifmtJ)
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Hmm, when it comes to civilian combatant of the year, who wins?

Kyle Rittenhouse or this homeowner?

My vote is for Mr. Rittenhouse, because he fought on unfamiliar turf.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (WEBkv)

He also killed marxist assholes, bonus points. Good aim too.

Still...nice work by the homeowner too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (ifmtJ)

192 143 I'm betting on a somebody owed somebody something scenario.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (QZxDR)

Even better, two of the attackers were father and son. The son is dead and Dad is locked up. It definitely whiffs of something more personal.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (gAFsE)

There was a case in the southern part of the state where someone who was undoubtedly a criminal shot two other criminals who broke into his trailer where he lived with his pregnant girlfriend, probably because of some criminal stuff they were in together.

I didn't really pay close attention or follow up but I think they just said it was self-defense or something and didn't even charge him because it was his home.

I'm good with this.

Posted by: Synova at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (BD/yx)

193 Yes, I read Glenn Reynold's InstaPundit, but I am trying to break the habit. From what I see, Glenn and his Libertarian buddies float above it all. Liberal policies don't impact them or their families so just a matter for humor.
Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (+CiEK)

IMO Glenn is fine. Driscoll and Berenstein (spelling?)... Aren't.
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:32 PM (gAFsE)

Insty himself is fine. And has actually shifted a bit to the conservative side over the years.

Everybody else who writes on that blog pretty much fall into the soggy anti-Trump libertarian swamp which means they're, yep -

middle left libtards.

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (EERbD)

194 SE Cupp "There's not a day goes by that I don't think."

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (y7DUB)

195 OT but can someone please tell me why Today had Jenna Bush with Hoda Kotb? Politics aside, Hoda is a wonderful hostess. She's fun and funny and engaging and attractive and then there is Jenna, a big pile of meh. Is it because her family are a Trump-haters? Cause it can't be anything about her personally.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:44 PM (0mF77)

196
I don't know why some of you are so enamored with breasts. To the point where you think these broads get hired for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

__________

Like they're hired for their brains.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2020 12:44 PM (mht8P)

197 114 Also, naked pictures of S.E. Cupp would also be good.

Just sayin'
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:31 PM (ifmtJ)

I would study these.. for SCIENCE!

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 15, 2020 12:44 PM (zTThE)

198 139 Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance

So, did you just want to know if I was joking or did you have some advice?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:35 PM (CZm2G)

My advice is pretty simple. Backup can be a complicated topic.

But if you only have documents and pictures to backup, a beefy thumb drive can do that. Just drag and drop what you want to save onto the thumb drive. Do that once a week at most, unless you're a professional writer.

If you have more complex needs, I can start writing up a big wall 'o text for ya

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (ifmtJ)

199 And the other two will be charged for felony murder. They committed a felony which resulted, indirectly, in the deaths of two people. It doesn't matter that those two people were their accomplices. That's the neat thing about the felony murder charge.

It is the neat thing about the felony murder doctrine. Which is, of course, why California got rid of it.

IMO, the felony murder doctrine - and a generously applied death penalty - are key to restraining criminality.

Two a-holes commit a crime in which someone dies, they're both liable for murder (first degree, I believe). Investigators can easily play them off against each other: whoever caves first, gets prison. The other, gets the needle. Pretty good incentive to spill your guts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (YqDXo)

200 Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (fIHXk)

201 Is S.E. CUPP a muffin top?

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (7EHch)

202 If you study Guerrilla warfare, the hardest part is initial organizing, especially since the enemy will be rounding up anyone they suspect of having differing opinions from them. And then there will be the Brian in New Orleans informants and collaborators.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (o2MD2)

203 Still...nice work by the homeowner too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (ifmtJ)
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Yes, great work by the homeowner.

Yet, this kind of stuff, which is by no means unusual for armed homeowners, doesn't give the Marxists pause, at all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (WEBkv)

204 I have been saying that I read Insty because he was ahead of my political evolution. But as someone else said, he is more conservative now.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (Z0/z0)

205 Is S.E. CUPP a muffin top?
Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (7EHch)
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If I'm not mistaken, SE has aged poorly.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (WEBkv)

206 Or, like all these people, she's dumb.

Let's think about financial repression and insolvent finances as moms and dads. No - let's think about them clearly, as literate and logical people.

Let's think about vile racist indoctrination paid for by taxpayers as moms and dads. No - let's think about it as decent intelligent non-racist Americans.

It's a small miracle the country made it this far. A huge part of the electorate "thinks" like 12-yr old girls (and not bright ones) - just emotion, no thinking.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (OTzUX)

207 All of these newswhores are just so full of information they are bursting to tell us peons all about it so we will know how smart and important they are.

Posted by: f'd at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (+y8uL)

208 181

Are we supposed to care about the GA elections after mcconnell endorses the dead guy and validates fraud as okay?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (sfhL4)

Chairman Xi and the CCP are all about the suppression

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (CZm2G)

209 Meanwhile, heavily-recruited Think Tank candidate S.E. Cupp, noted libertarian and gunt-haver, is demanding more laws to take citizens' guns away.

She is demanding? What'll she do is we don't meet her demands? Go topless or something? WTH does she think she is? She obviously has delusions of relevance.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (YqDXo)

210 158 151 The Sandy Hook thing must be the talking point of the day; KamelToe tweeted about it, too.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2020 12:36 PM (DMUuz)

Senator Udall had it on his facebook the other day. Felt goulish.
Posted by: Synova at December 15, 2020 12:37 PM (BD/yx)

Got to set the table for the early 2021 gun grab.

Posted by: Bete at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (Ojki1)

211 I have been saying that I read Insty because he was ahead of my political evolution. But as someone else said, he is more conservative now.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (Z0/z0)

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He ended his relationship with USA Today due to USA Today spiking one of his articles.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (WEBkv)

212 If you really wanted to look at Sandy Hook as moms and dads you would be advocating for institutionalizing the mentally ill. Everyone knew that kid was crazy, but because of the state of our laws regarding institutionalization, forced on us by the left (former) libertarians, you can't put a crazy person into a mental hospital until after the murder spree.

Yep. The guy who crashed at my college condo for a few months who went on to kill his mom and sister's best friend was schizophrenic, and a druggie. His parents tried to get him into a facility two weeks before the murders. The "experts" took a look at him and said, "Nope, he's not dangerous enough to remove from society." Way to go, experts.

When they found him, he was naked, covered in blood, and wearing an American flag like a cape. He was babbling about all of his enemies trying to get him.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (UW2ZS)

213 SE Cupp "There's not a day goes by that I don't think."
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (y7DUB)

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Winner winner chicken dinner!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (kTF2Z)

214
Is S.E. CUPP a muffin top?
Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (7EHch)

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Used to be kinda cute. No longer. She needs to be cashiered because she has no brains or charm and is not pretty anymore.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (lvPHe)

215 I think we can all agree "big titted imbecile" is poetry.

Posted by: nip at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (cpS4u)

216 S.E. probably parties too hard. Liquor and cigarettes are hard on women. At a class reunion, you can always spot the party girls. They're the ones that look twice the age of everyone else.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (0mF77)

217 S.E. Cupp is as libertarian as Mitt Romney is severely conservative. You should be more careful about alienating possible allies.
Posted by: BoinkBoink at December 15, 2020 12:38 PM (pVj5b)

Pay attention to the language, it matters. In most cases, Libertarians are not allies of conservatives, and in point of fact, it certainly appears this C Cupp gal is EXACTLY as Libertarian as Mitt Romney is Republican.

Except Republicans manage to get elected.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (hku12)

218 Guns are unnecessary! Two beautiful lives have been wasted. Sad.

Joe Biden or Ruth Bader Ginsburg (pbuh) would have beaten the 4 into submission using only their bare hands, then called the 911 Peaceful Assistance Line to have them taken to a hospital for free emergency care (and not charged with a crime).

Barack Obama would have patiently reasoned with them and convinced them to peacefully leave and go to a community shelter for food, a bed for the night, and and a $1200 cash handout in the morning.

Can't you troglodyte white supremacist gun nuts see the error of your ways?

Posted by: Every Progressive Everywhere at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (AMIL/)

219
Investigators can easily play them off against each other: whoever caves first, gets prison. The other, gets the needle. Pretty good incentive to spill your guts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM

I always thought "The Prisoner's Dilemma" would make a good live action reality TV game show

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (8hUqJ)

220 Not a day, huh?

Posted by: Tens of Thousands of Chicago Parents at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (1fg6a)

221 195 OT but can someone please tell me why Today had Jenna Bush with Hoda Kotb? Politics aside, Hoda is a wonderful hostess. She's fun and funny and engaging and attractive and then there is Jenna, a big pile of meh. Is it because her family are a Trump-haters? Cause it can't be anything about her personally.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:44 PM (0mF77)

OOT
Jenna Bush is the source of some of the blackmail the Deep State had on Bush the Lesser. She and her sister were big drug and party girls and pics and video Kompromat was obtained well before the 2000 election.

So...she's dirty and she's tied in with the rest of the 'Elite' slime

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (ifmtJ)

222 All of these newswhores are just so full of information they are bursting to tell us peons all about it so we will know how smart and important they are.
Posted by: f'd at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM

To be fair, it IS our job for tell you what to think.

Posted by: Mika B. at December 15, 2020 12:49 PM (DMUuz)

223 OT but can someone please tell me why Today had Jenna Bush with Hoda Kotb? Politics aside, Hoda is a wonderful hostess. She's fun and funny and engaging and attractive and then there is Jenna, a big pile of meh. Is it because her family are a Trump-haters? Cause it can't be anything about her personally.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:44 PM (0mF77)

Hoda attractive? That face was meant for radio.

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 15, 2020 12:49 PM (8k7U7)

224 Let's think about vile racist indoctrination paid for by taxpayers as moms and dads. No - let's think about it as decent intelligent non-racist Americans.

It's a small miracle the country made it this far. A huge part of the electorate "thinks" like 12-yr old girls (and not bright ones) - just emotion, no thinking.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (OTzUX)

12 year old girls who are just having their first period, and no one had warned them that it was imminent.

The emphasis on emotion over reason is a direct consequence of the feminization of our culture.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:49 PM (YqDXo)

225 Apparently, no person or legal entity has standing to challenge a fraudulent election.

How convenient.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 12:50 PM (1ISKN)

226 I have been saying that I read Insty because he was ahead of my political evolution. But as someone else said, he is more conservative now.

The problem with Instapundit, in a nutshell, is not enough Instapundit or too much non-Instapundit.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 15, 2020 12:50 PM (H5knJ)

227 Not sure, I'm at the point where I wouldn't even piss in her mouth if her teeth were on fire.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 12:43 PM (9Om/r)

Well yes, but you have options. You have to approach it from the perspective of a low-T Liberal network office guy who needs to use his position and access privilege to get puss because he's a toxic, narcissistic dweeb that women find repulsive.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:50 PM (gAFsE)

228 Are we supposed to care about the GA elections after mcconnell endorses the dead guy and validates fraud as okay?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:41 PM (sfhL4)

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And if the GOPe thinks that, by pimping my cell number from its use for races in AZ to these friggin Senate runoffs in GA, I'm going to be inclined to kick in even a nickel, they really are as stupid as they appear.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 15, 2020 12:50 PM (ch6++)

229 When they found him, he was naked, covered in blood, and wearing an American flag like a cape. He was babbling about all of his enemies trying to get him.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM (UW2ZS)
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There was a sheriff in AZ, forget his name, that allowed Loughner to get a gun, even though there was ample reason to deny him, because Loughner was known to be mentally ill. This same sheriff then went on to kill a homeowner, or, at least his department did, over a drug bust, I believe it was.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (WEBkv)

230
no, I want Trump to go scorched earth. I'm not kidding.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (sfhL4)

That's one of the biggest problems we have. Too many people wanting someone else to do something for them.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)

231 Which if the guns used at Sandy Hook were legal? How many of them were legal to carry onto school grounds?

Its almost as if laws don't stop evil.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (KZzsI)

232 OT but can someone please tell me why Today had Jenna Bush with Hoda Kotb? Politics aside, Hoda is a wonderful hostess. She's fun and funny and engaging and attractive and then there is Jenna, a big pile of meh. Is it because her family are a Trump-haters? Cause it can't be anything about her personally.
Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:44 PM (0mF77)

Hoda attractive? That face was meant for radio.
Posted by: WeBoned! at December 15, 2020

*
*

Dunno about now, but when she started 25 or so years ago on our local CBS outlet, she was pretty.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (yvr3o)

233 OOT
Jenna Bush is the source of some of the blackmail the Deep State had on Bush the Lesser. She and her sister were big drug and party girls and pics and video Kompromat was obtained well before the 2000 election.

So...she's dirty and she's tied in with the rest of the 'Elite' slime
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards

The Bush girls are tied in deep with Planned Parenthood.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (S3Inb)

234 223�OT but can someone please tell me why Today had Jenna Bush with Hoda Kotb?

..

You watch Today?

Posted by: LOL at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (8ft+D)

235 The problem with Instapundit, in a nutshell, is not enough Instapundit or too much non-Instapundit.

Yeah he loaned out the name and the site to people that are too far from his core philosophy.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (KZzsI)

236 One of the zillion bits of suggestive evidence that the vile vegetable's camp was in fact very panicky as Nov. 3 approached was the last-minute tweet about an assault weapons ban. Just the thing a confident team does when they're focused on ...... PA ..... and MI .... and hopeful about GA .... and AZ.

Right.

It was stunning, and to me the most evident sign of panic.

Because like the rest of the otherwise-invisible non-agenda of the non-campaign with no visible candidate, "gun control" polls waaaay down not just in those places, but everywhere outside a few clueless s***holes.

It was part of the formula to amass a record number of votes while unseating an incumbent above 50% approval who increased his share everywhere.

Or maybe not.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

237 Her- I still think about those poor parents whose children were murdered by evil guns.

Me- thank you for sharing. You may go now.

Her- But think of the children! If gun control saves just one child....

Me- Abortion murders more children in a few months than gun violence does in a year. And the gun didn't kill those kids.. The evil psycho pulling the trigger did. Shut the fuck up. You may go.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (Vxu+H)

238 Apparently, no person or legal entity has standing to challenge a fraudulent election.

How convenient.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 12:50 PM (1ISKN)

Let's not overlook having standing, but filing too early or too late.
There are a plethora of reasons why these cases aren't being heard. The validity of the claims in the suits aren't the reason for denial.

Whatcha gonna do?

Posted by: OneEyedJack, asshole in hiding at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (z79tQ)

239 I don't know why some of you are so enamored with breasts. To the point where you think these broads get hired for them.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:29 PM (hku12)

It's really about thousands of years of instinctual nature of man...
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 15, 2020 12:42 PM (zTThE)

Yeah, I know.

The point is though, as far as factors involved in the decision making process for hiring bimbos for teevee news, having breasts is not as important as willingness to suck network executive cock.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (hku12)

240 Has it crossed anyone's mind that a "CNN resident libertarian" is not anything like an "actual libertarian"?

Tell you what. Start conservativing just like a CNN resident conservative, and make sure you stick you head way up as you do it.

The key phrase in the sentence was not "libertarian."

Yes! It's twoo! Hillary's agents just picked up the word Libertarian from the sidewalk, added an "-al," and have been parading around the country waggling their tiny genitals for over 12 years. THIS DOES NOT MAKE THEM LIBERTARIANS of any kind whatever. Suggested new stance? Your nose out of their ass.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (zMFmR)

241 John Fund

Twitter confirms Trump can be banned from inauguration day onwards

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (sfhL4)

242 The St. Tammany Coroner's office identified the dead suspects as 25-year-old Renard Causey Jr. and 21-year-old Justin Hill, WVUE added.

But now the two suspects who survived the shooting - Renard Causey Sr. and Jason Leblanc ...

Dad was just trying to get his kid started in the family business.

Posted by: spindrift at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (eXtwt)

243 I always thought "The Prisoner's Dilemma" would make a good live action reality TV game show
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (8hUqJ)

With Jeopardy! music in the background.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (fIHXk)

244 If you have more complex needs, I can start writing up a big wall 'o text for ya
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (ifmtJ)

Thanks

I drag and drop now but it's really tedious. I'm a hoarder.

Some hints and tips would be nice or some knowledge source that's not jargon heavy.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (CZm2G)

245 I always thought "The Prisoner's Dilemma" would make a good live action reality TV game show
Posted by: AltonJackson at December 15, 2020 12:48 PM (8hUqJ)

Me too!

Years ago a housemate and I were watching the news when some clown who'd murdered eight people with a chainsaw objected that he never littered, or something similar.

Me: "I'm sure when the judge hears what a Boy Scout you are, he'll be happy to knock off a couple of volts."

My housemate - a law student - laughed and said I'd missed my calling as a prosecutor.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (YqDXo)

246 When I first read that I thought "Sandy Hook, why is she talking about Sandy Hook?" Was that the last school shooting? No. Are kids in school now? Not many. Maybe she should think about teenage mental health a little more and the current suicide rate. Anyway, the lesson of Sandy Hook is one of a mentally ill teenager that no gun law could have prevented.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (r+sAi)

247 237 Her- I still think about those poor parents whose children were murdered by evil guns.

Me- thank you for sharing. You may go now.

Her- But think of the children! If gun control saves just one child....

Me- Abortion murders more children in a few months than gun violence does in a year. And the gun didn't kill those kids.. The evil psycho pulling the trigger did. Shut the fuck up. You may go.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (Vxu+H)

*subscribed

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (ifmtJ)

248 Go topless or something? WTH does she think she is? She obviously has delusions of relevance.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:47 PM

I'm sure a few 'rons might find relevancy in Sarah Elizabeth going topless.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (DMUuz)

249 Reynolds spends a loooot of time on the Rona. He seems fascinated.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (7EHch)

250 244 If you have more complex needs, I can start writing up a big wall 'o text for ya
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (ifmtJ)

Thanks

I drag and drop now but it's really tedious. I'm a hoarder.

Some hints and tips would be nice or some knowledge source that's not jargon heavy.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (CZm2G)

Are you Mac or PC ?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (ifmtJ)

251 4/10 would smash SE Cupp.

Posted by: MJ at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (gAMkn)

252 Hoda attractive? That face was meant for radio.

As a straight, older woman, I think she's attractive in a "straight, older women who used to be pretty when she was younger and still wears fashions well" way.

But Jenna is young and chubby and very blah looking in the face. Nothing appealing about her at all. Even her "banter" seems fake and forced.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (0mF77)

253

Caller on Rush going after the Turtle. What he's saying is, "We're getting the swamp back together again."

I don't think the Turtle understands that the Dems aren't playing by any rules any more except power at all costs. They won't play nice if Trump is gone. They are going to sweep aside the Turtle and the rest of the weakling Republicans.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (B8b0n)

254
My housemate - a law student - laughed and said I'd missed my calling as a prosecutor.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (YqDXo)

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Naw, I'm pretty sure there's a human soul somewhere in there. You wouldn't really fit in with those golems.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (lvPHe)

255 But now the two suspects who survived the shooting - Renard Causey Sr. and Jason Leblanc ...

Dad was just trying to get his kid started in the family business.
Posted by: spindrift at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (eXtwt)

And the other one was on Friends.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (fIHXk)

256 Eight years ago is under Obama's watch.
So, what did Obama do to protect those 20 children ?NOTHING

Posted by: Grand Dragon at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (3aI0K)

257 Which if the guns used at Sandy Hook were legal? How many of them were legal to carry onto school grounds?

Its almost as if laws don't stop evil.

Lanza killed the legal gun owner (his mom) to obtain the guns.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (UW2ZS)

258 Rush is talking about California and NY wanting to secede in 2016.

Posted by: f'd at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (+y8uL)

259 SE Cupp has thought of the Sandy Hook moms and dads for 2920 days.

Uh, yeah right.

Posted by: MJ at December 15, 2020 12:55 PM (gAMkn)

260 Hollow-points are nasty business at close range.

Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at December 15, 2020 12:55 PM (y5oH4)

261 Abortion murders more children in a few months than gun violence does in a year.

Abortion: about 4000 babies a day in America alone.
Excluding suicides, about 15,000 die from gun violence in America a year. With suicides its around 40k.

It takes less than a week for these two sources of death to be equal.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

262
And also, not to minimize it in any way, but if you weren't at Sandy Hook, or didn't lose a child there, you haven't thought about it "every day" since. That's absurd.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (lvPHe)

263 >>John Fund

Twitter confirms Trump can be banned from inauguration day onwards
- - -
Of course they'll ban Trump should he leave office on 1/20/21/

I don't think twitter and the MSM understand what Trump gone and banned will do for their traffic.
They should look at Fox News for an idea.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (bDqIh)

264 Well, time to wander. Gifts need to be shipped and lumber stores need to be visited.

Later!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (WEBkv)

265 Well yes, but you have options. You have to
approach it from the perspective of a low-T Liberal network office guy
who needs to use his position and access privilege to get puss because
he's a toxic, narcissistic dweeb that women find repulsive.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 12:50 PM (gAFsE)

yeah ok, I see where you're going. A pajama boy hires her because he thinks she's dreamy. In the end he still isn't gonna get any though. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (9Om/r)

266 Maybe she should think about teenage mental health a little more and the current suicide rate. Anyway, the lesson of Sandy Hook is one of a mentally ill teenager that no gun law could have prevented.
_____________

Also, kids growing up without fathers in the home. That has been a factor in a lot of these shooters' lives.

More dangerous dysfunction brought to us by the lefties who want to run everybody's life, 'cuz they're soooooooo much smarter and better than the rest of us.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (k4dH2)

267 Hoda was a local reporter here before she got her big break. We seem to be the goto area when the big networks need to punch the diversity button.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (1ISKN)

268 You watch Today?

Hubby still does sometimes in his futile search for actual news.

Posted by: katya the designated driver at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (0mF77)

269 Breast fixation?? I would say HUNDREDS of thousands of years of male conditioning, more like.

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (7EHch)

270 S.E. Cupp is to libertarian as Mitt Romney is to severely conservative.

What is this; a SAT test?

Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (gmo/4)

271 259 SE Cupp has thought of the Sandy Hook moms and dads for 2920 days.

Uh, yeah right.
Posted by: MJ at December 15, 2020 12:55 PM (gAMkn)

...

This would be a mental disorder if true.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (2HIdp)

272 I don't think the Turtle understands that the Dems aren't playing by any rules any more except power at all costs. They won't play nice if Trump is gone. They are going to sweep aside the Turtle and the rest of the weakling Republicans.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (B8b0n)

Unless someone educates me on why Turtle blocked Trump appointments I'm saying he gets it.. because he's in on it. Would love to be proven wrong here... but that's where I'm at.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (zTThE)

273 Here we go as predicted.
Vaccinations for every strain! Infinity!
SMFH

https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/
status/1338882500983189505

JUST IN - "Super-contagious" mutated #COVID19 strain has spread to Scotland and Wales. Genetic code analysis suggests it originated in South East England and was not imported from abroad.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (FBARo)

274
yeah ok, I see where you're going. A pajama boy hires her because he thinks she's dreamy. In the end he still isn't gonna get any though. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (9Om/r)

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Oh, I bet the number of TV dorks who've stuck that human pincushion is in the dozens, if not hundreds.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 15, 2020 12:58 PM (lvPHe)

275

fyi

LIVE: Trump Electors, Stop The Steal Coalition Hold Press Conference on Capitol Hill
youtube
3,614 waiting
Scheduled for Dec 15, 2020

1 PM EST - #STOPTHESTEAL coalition leaders will hold a press conference with Trump Electors from Contested States to talk NEXT STEPS

visit http://StopTheSteal.us for a live feed or RSBN, NTD, or Epoch Times.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:58 PM (sfhL4)

276 Which if the guns used at Sandy Hook were legal? How many of them were legal to carry onto school grounds?

Its almost as if laws don't stop evil.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (KZzsI)

Jill Leovy's "Ghettoside," which chronicles the murderous mayhem in LA, reports that homicide detectives were astonished to find one murder had been committed with a legally-acquired gun. Apparently that hadn't happened in years.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 12:58 PM (YqDXo)

277 Is S.E. CUPP a muffin top?
Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 12:45 PM (7EHch)
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If I'm not mistaken, SE has aged poorly.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 15, 2020 12:46 PM (WEBkv)

Eh, she was never particularly pretty.

For about, what?, one year she was okay.

Maybe a 6-7 but that was on the -

Jennifer Rubin Weighted Scale of "Conservative" Writer Gal Attractiveness

Posted by: naturalfake at December 15, 2020 12:58 PM (EERbD)

278 Sandy Hook - mentally ill guy who stole his mother's gun.

AZ - mentally ill guy who only got a gun legally because of his Dem mother's connections to the buffoonishly political Dem sheriff, after being blackballed by FFLs - I think this is all pretty much correct.

Yeah, "gun control" really relevant in those cases.

And let's not forget the AZ situation. The loathsome idiot affirmative action intern "president" had an entire Bloody Shirt rally to stir up his idiot base, and the incident was used to blood libel, in an absurd fashion, a political enemy.

And America, after a stunning unexpected respite from that, is about to plunge right back into that degraded, repugnant idiocy. Thanks not to "China!!!", but to your neighbors, and your degraded/collapsed institutions.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 12:58 PM (OTzUX)

279 >>>To be fair, it IS our job for tell you what to think.
Posted by: Mika B. at December 15, 2020 12:49 PM (DMUuz)
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Our job is not to tell you what to think but what to think about.
_Howard K. Smith

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 12:58 PM (CZm2G)

280 McTurtle is part of the swamp. Never forget that and you won't be surprised when he sticks a knife in your back.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (o2MD2)

281 Found a picture of Renard Causey. Yep, you know how it goes, if Obama had a son...

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (Kpl3J)

282 Hollow-points are nasty business at close range.
Posted by: Great Reagan's Deplorable Ghost at December 15, 2020 12:55 PM (y5oH4)

At close range, a claw hammer is nastier.

Posted by: OneEyedJack, asshole in hiding at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (z79tQ)

283 S.E. Cupp is just practicing a form of self-preservation. She understands who we are coming for if we are forced to go to war to protect our God-given rights.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (946rW)

284 "This is why we lose. We give all our plum persuasion/policy-pushing positions to sneering liberals. And somehow we expect this will work out well for us."

We lose because we don't organize and act.

We sit around reading blogs. Are we organizing, joining the school board, seeking out and supporting those of use who have the time/energy to act, writing letters to pols, learning how your local GOPe organization actually works, writing letters to pols about election security, demanding the the GOPe actually act on election security (ie, monitors should be as important as gotv efforts), etc.

Not done ranting but I'm done typing.

Posted by: Two Weeks at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (ELnqd)

285 230
no, I want Trump to go scorched earth. I'm not kidding.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (sfhL4)

That's one of the biggest problems we have. Too many people wanting someone else to do something for them.
Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)

I would also do things the president does, if I was president.

I want Trump to cross the Rubicon, because he already has a bunch of toga wearing throne sniffers stabbing him in the back. Yes it's backwards but it's my metaphor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Z0/z0)

286 Hollow-points are nasty business at close range.

Good hollow-points are safer for innocent bystanders. They dump all of their energy in the target's torso, and typically are found in the clothing on the opposite side of the target. Ball ammo will zip right through a target and still remain deadly for at least one other biped.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (UW2ZS)

287 273 Here we go as predicted.
Vaccinations for every strain! Infinity!
SMFH

https://mobile.twitter.com/disclosetv/
status/1338882500983189505

JUST IN - "Super-contagious" mutated #COVID19 strain has spread to Scotland and Wales. Genetic code analysis suggests it originated in South East England and was not imported from abroad.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 15, 2020 12:57 PM (FBARo)

We* gave up freedom for "safety"

Good and hard it is.

*"We" as a species that allowed the lock downs almost everywhere, obviously not everyone.

Posted by: Bete at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Ojki1)

288 Jennifer Rubin. A woman with that name should be smokin' hot.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (CZm2G)

289 >>Not done ranting but I'm done typing.

You get out in the yard and give those clouds the What For!

Posted by: garrett at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Rk2nE)

290

Clyde Haberman @ClydeHaberman

Serious question: If you were the Bidens, would you move into the White House right away on Jan. 20 when it may well be a contaminated area, given the present administration's cavalier approach to the coronavirus?

can you imagine being this guy?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (sfhL4)

291 McTurtle is part of the swamp. Never forget that and you won't be surprised when he sticks a knife in your back.
Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (o2MD2)

Exactly, the surprise would've been if he didn't say what he did this morning.

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (8k7U7)

292 Just received my bulk shipment of 7.62x51 M80 ammo from fedex yesterday. So you actually can still do that in NY, but for how long.

Posted by: Marcus Gravey... New York City's a shithole at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (GlmxK)

293 Her- I still think about those poor parents whose children were murdered by evil guns.

Me- thank you for sharing. You may go now.

Her- But think of the children! If gun control saves just one child....

Me- Abortion murders more children in a few months than gun violence
does in a year. And the gun didn't kill those kids.. The evil psycho
pulling the trigger did. Shut the fuck up. You may go.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (Vxu+H)

*subscribed

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:53 PM (ifmtJ)

Subscribed? I'm starting to want her to have my kids. lolol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (9Om/r)

294 Two Tits One Cupp.

Posted by: Porn Site at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (l3+k2)

295 Libertarianism is based on the same romantic view of human behavior as is Leftist ideals such as Rousseau and through Marx as the fruit of the Enlightenment. JS Mill, Locke, etc. all believed that humans were basically good and were/are warped by society. Both ignore history or distort it to fit their frame instead of simply recognizing that some will choose to do evil if given a choice and some of them will band together to cause evil things to happen on a massive scale--wars, pogroms, genocide, etc.

The underlying theme for both is Do as Thou Wilt. Libertarians naively believe that others will do as thou wilt for good when left to their own devices.

Leftists believe that only the guardians of the proletariat are truly able to see the good and this allows a dictatorship of the elites until literally a "new" population is created which is a sort of debased Platonic ideal. Thus, we see the continuing hypocrisy where the elites ignore the Covid restrictions that they put on the plebes because only they are the knowing and good in society. They are free to do as they will but the non-virtuous cannot. The same justification has been used for flagrant violations of morals by priests of different religions, the nobility in others, and by various despots and tyrants throughout the ages.

To pedants, both of these are examples of rhetoric, not dialectic. There is considerable variation in Socialist/Marxist thought as well as libertarianism. Both though focus on the individual being freed from the chains of current society and then vary as to the prescription of what to do next. Leftists are big on reeducation and elimination, libertarians not so much.

SE Cupp is simply a fake plant and if you notice, many of the "conservative" thought leaders behave like leftists because they are leftists in their hearts and minds. So disqualify, deplatform, etc. are justified as what Saint Buckley did.

That is the fault of the corporate and wealthy donors of the "conservative" sponsors of GoPe and "conservative" institutions which inevitably parrot whatever current idiocy is being promoted and shadow box in repeatedly saying they will 'ne'er consent' and soon afterwards consent.

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (pO7gM)

296 Sandy Hook was transparent. Nice laws you enacted immediately afterwards Connecticut. Is David Wheeler, aka The Sloppy Sniper, still play acting as an FBI agent. lel

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (FBARo)

297 Abortion: about 4000 babies a day in America alone.
Excluding suicides, about 15,000 die from gun violence in America a year. With suicides its around 40k.

It takes less than a week for these two sources of death to be equal.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)

And half of those 15,000 are from the hood, where again "Ghettoside" makes clear that staggering incidence of murder there. Apparently it is not all that uncommon for one family to include TWO murder victims. Yow.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (YqDXo)

298 Good news flash! According to the back of my half & half container, the dairy is going to be carbon neutral in 2050. So I have that going for me.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (Ezr0J)

299
Sometimes those positions also go to war mongering liberals

Posted by: Avi at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (T4qa/)

300 Homeowner needs just a little bit more range time.
A teeny bit more.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Without Standing Deplorable Ian Galt at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (ufFY8)

301 yeah ok, I see where you're going. A pajama boy hires her because he thinks she's dreamy. In the end he still isn't gonna get any though. lol
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 12:56 PM (9Om/r)

I really think a lot of these dudes never, ever get how badly they're doing it. Their female opposites are the demographic and consumes kidnap and rape fiction by the box car because that's the only way to get any form of testosterone into their lives.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (gAFsE)

302 SE Cupp should read the article written by the Sandy Hook shooter's dad that came out a few years ago.
That kid was sick for year, and he was pushed off by all of the people and institutions that should have been helping him (schools, inpatient psychiatric care, etc.). His father left and his mother was so thoroughly worn down by the kid's crazy behavior. Years and years she tried to get him help, tried to get herself help/backup for dealing with her son-turned-monster.

Sandy Hook wasn't about guns, it was about how we treat (or really, don't adequately treat) the sickest, most dangerous within our communities.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (bDqIh)

303 You have to
approach it from the perspective of a low-T Liberal network office guy
who needs to use his position and access privilege to get puss because
he's a toxic, narcissistic dweeb that women find repulsive.

I'm right here, you know.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (2JVJo)

304 What did McConnell do now?

Last year on a short trip involving a big chain hotel - pretty nice, very nice breakfast, semi-buffet style - I was exposed to one of the morning shows.

My gawd, the idiocy. Could literally barely believe what I was hearing.

The idiot marinade in which much of the country soaks 24/7 makes even the collapsing state of America today a small miracle.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (OTzUX)

305 Ever month or two the news reports about a new mutated super dangerous strain of Wuhan Flu and every time its... not really news or was mistaken, or misunderstood a doctor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (KZzsI)

306 obligatory
S.E. Cupp had only one talent

https://tinyurl.com/yafghbyl

Posted by: wth at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (v0R5T)

307 I saw a zap just now! Like the green flash at sunset, it was!

Posted by: tubal at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (7EHch)

308 Not for nothing did Ayn Rand despise the libertarians.

Although now the professional Objectivist movement is anti Trump

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (tmkic)

309 "The problem with Libertarians is they want to implement their agenda in full the day after the election without undoing 120 years of progressivism first."

ding ding ding

winner

Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (Z7wGT)

310
McTurtle is part of the swamp. Never forget that and you won't be surprised when he sticks a knife in your back.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (o2MD2)

They're all part of the fat Roman senator wing. Thats what we got these days. Fat Fucking Roman Senators.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (9Om/r)

311 Good news flash! According to the back of my half & half container, the dairy is going to be carbon neutral in 2050. So I have that going for me.

Posted by: Beartooth at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (Ezr0J)

The cows won't fart any more?

Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (786Ro)

312 Good news flash! According to the back of my half & half container, the dairy is going to be carbon neutral in 2050. So I have that going for me.
Posted by: Beartooth at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (Ezr0J)

I wonder what percentage of the cattle in this country are already owned by Chicom Inc.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (hku12)

313 The underlying theme for both is Do as Thou Wilt. Libertarians naively believe that others will do as thou wilt for good when left to their own devices.

Yep. It is astonishing how they fail to observe human nature. What happened after, say, Hurricane Katrina? Or any other disaster when law and order breaks down, even temporarily (such as a daylong power outage in a major city)?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (YqDXo)

314 it's an easy chain of thought to follow: holiday time -> christmas -> santa claus -> sandy claws -> sandy hook
Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 15, 2020 12:09 PM (sGtp+)

Ho ho ho!

Now I have a machine gun!

Posted by: Nick, watering thoroughly The Tree of Liberty at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (KqiMr)

315 (CZm2G)

Are you Mac or PC ?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (ifmtJ)
------------------

PC

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (CZm2G)

316 According to the back of my half & half container, the dairy is going to be carbon neutral in 2050.

LOL. Yeah, the same time we'll have flying cars and a base on the moon. Any minute now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (KZzsI)

317

Kayleigh presser upcoming too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (sfhL4)

318 Excluding suicides, about 15,000 die from gun violence in America a year. With suicides its around 40k.

If you exclude suicide, justifiable homicide, and gang shootings, we're talking a couple thousand gun deaths a year. There are more abortions in a day.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (UW2ZS)

319 They're all part of the fat Roman senator wing. Thats what we got these days. Fat Fucking Roman Senators.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (9Om/r)

Publicly electing Senators was a such stupid idea. Now we have the House and the other House.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (1ISKN)

320 Re Sandy Hook, Speaking as a parent, at some point with some kids, you have to say objectively to the kid you are a useless wretch and you need to be institutionalized. I know my mom would have done that

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 15, 2020 01:05 PM (tmkic)

321 S.E. Dunce.

That seems to be in the AOSHQ Style Guide.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 01:05 PM (FGbUr)

322
If you exclude suicide, justifiable homicide, and gang shootings, we're talking a couple thousand gun deaths a year. There are more abortions in a day.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:04 PM (UW2ZS)

Why would you exclude gang shootings?

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (gAFsE)

323 316 According to the back of my half & half container, the dairy is going to be carbon neutral in 2050.

Unless a meteor brings us some new carbon, the planet is carbon neutral already.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (1ISKN)

324 Sandy Hook wasn't about guns, it was about how we treat (or really, don't adequately treat) the sickest, most dangerous within our communities.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (bDqIh)

These people are Democrats. That is the key to their being left on the street. When they vote they vote Democrat, when they snap and commit atrocities, they become the Democrat excuse for more revoking of rights. They serve their purpose loose, nothing but a drain of resources in an institution.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (o2MD2)

325 Not for nothing did Ayn Rand despise the libertarians.

For my part, I hold libertarians in contempt. Their philosophy is the kind of crap that comes out in late night dorm bull sessions, typically spouted by some undergraduate poseur who is trying (unsuccessfully) to grow a beard, and who is sporting a beret and a pipe (which he chokes on periodically).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (YqDXo)

326 Given how most state legislatures are more left-leaning than the US Senate, I don't understand how on earth letting them pick our congress would give us superior results. Its one of the big myths conservatives cling to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (KZzsI)

327 McConnell's heavily connected Chinese wife is just a coincidence.

Posted by: nip at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (cpS4u)

328
I'm just about back to 'let it burn.'

Posted by: Sphynx at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (rXie1)

329 315 (CZm2G)

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Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 12:54 PM (ifmtJ)
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Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (ifmtJ)

330 Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:01 PM (pO7gM)

More the fruit of the post-Immanuel Kant anti-Enlightment, no?

Posted by: Marcus Gravey... New York City's a shithole at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (GlmxK)

331 Because like the rest of the otherwise-invisible non-agenda of the non-campaign with no visible candidate, "gun control" polls waaaay down not just in those places, but everywhere outside a few clueless s***holes.

It was part of the formula to amass a record number of votes while unseating an incumbent above 50% approval who increased his share everywhere.

Or maybe not.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (OTzUX)

I remember a few months ago, Sarah Hoyt describing it as the Dems were not running an election campaign but a fraud operation.

Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (786Ro)

332 310
McTurtle is part of the swamp. Never forget that and you won't be surprised when he sticks a knife in your back.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at December 15, 2020 12:59 PM (o2MD2)

They're all part of the fat Roman senator wing. Thats what we got these days. Fat Fucking Roman Senators.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 01:03 PM (9Om/r)
----------------------------------------

Below the Senate Chambers they have steam pools serviced by Geisha boys and girls.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (CZm2G)

333 obligatory

S.E. Cupp had only one talent

https://tinyurl.com/yafghbyl

Posted by: wth at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (v0R5T)

Ok, I take back what I said. A little target practice won't hurt anybody.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (9Om/r)

334 Any perp pics? Want to know if thelr Lives Matter.

Posted by: Desultory joe at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (L9P9s)

335
We* gave up freedom for "safety"

Good and hard it is.

*"We" as a species that allowed the lock downs almost everywhere, obviously not everyone.
Posted by: Bete at December 15, 2020 01:00 PM (Ojki1)

Some of us tried to warn everyone what this was. Most didn't heed it. Many on this blog didn't either.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (Fs5vw)

336 Nood

Posted by: Furious George at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (9vQJW)

337 Nood

parents = the enemy, apparently

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Pick your partners for the Dance at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (ifmtJ)

338 Most state legislatures are Repub. If that makes them left-leaning, that's not on me.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (1ISKN)

339 The only way I can justify why Perdue didn't demand a signature review to pull him over the 50% + 1 is bc someone in the GOP told him to STFU bc it also would have won the race for PDT. The only two powerful enough to silence him were McConnell and Ronna Romney McDaniels. I'm betting it was both.

Posted by: EveR at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (DsGxB)

340 She's rubbing that scamper raw now that Biden is POTUS-Elect.
Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at December 15, 2020 12:13 PM (I8FKK)

Hey! Long time, no see! Good to see you here.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (mzC78)

341
Also - I'm not too keen on bashing libertarians, as a rule (good-faith ones, not the kind they put on TV).

Any more than I am on bashing center-right Dems.

If there is any hope of prevailing (peacefully or otherwise) against the Communists, it's going to take the form of a coalition including a whole broad range of people who agree to set aside their differences in the near-term.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (lvPHe)

342 No talk of how the shooter was a mental defective whose mom worked her way around the system with the help of the school and others to make sure he wasn't labeled, then thought it was a swell idea to give him access to firearms.

But yeah, you keep talking about the gun.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (FGbUr)

343 Sandy Hook wasn't about guns, it was about how we treat (or really, don't adequately treat) the sickest, most dangerous within our communities.
Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2020 01:02 PM (bDqIh)

The fruit of "care in the community," a leftist campaign sparked by that shithead Ken Kesey, and now enshrined in Supreme Court precedent.

Why are we inundated with vagrants ranting to invisible people? Gee, I can't imagine. It's a mystery.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (YqDXo)

344 328
I'm just about back to 'let it burn.'
Posted by: Sphynx

Welcome home... Have a cookie.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (Vxu+H)

345 Re Sandy Hook, Speaking as a parent, at some point with some kids, you have to say objectively to the kid you are a useless wretch and you need to be institutionalized. I know my mom would have done that

Lanza's mom tried. It's really REALLY hard to institutionalize someone, especially once they become an adult.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (UW2ZS)

346 As a father, I think about gun safety all of the time and I have developed my son into one of the top ranked trap shooters in the state

Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (KRCYP)

347 Why would you exclude gang shootings?

Because it's mostly targeted shithead on shithead violence.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (UW2ZS)

348 320 Re Sandy Hook, Speaking as a parent, at some point with some kids, you have to say objectively to the kid you are a useless wretch and you need to be institutionalized. I know my mom would have done that
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 15, 2020 01:05 PM (tmkic)

But institutions almost never take someone til something unmissable as a sign happens.

Often with a big price tag or a body count.

It is incredibly hard to get someone institutionalized...unless you live in an area with a prosecutor who loves to do this, in which case your chances of being railroaded when in the system can be quite high.

Posted by: Bete at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (Ojki1)

349 Let me Translate S.E.Glowie. We can't have anymore false flags gay ops because Trump shut them down, so SANDY HOOK!1!1!1!!1!!1!!!!!!!!!!.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (FBARo)

350 >>Re Sandy Hook, Speaking as a parent, at some point with some kids, you have to say objectively to the kid you are a useless wretch and you need to be institutionalized. I know my mom would have done that

His mom tried that repeatedly. Every time she got him set up somewhere - a special school, a psych institution, home school with special counseling, she was told "this isn't the right place for him, what he really needs is [whatever she tried right before that place]." She was bumped back and forth, no one wanted to take the kid, all those places that are supposed to help wanted him as far away as possible (probably so they wouldn't be blamed when he snapped).

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (bDqIh)

351
You know even with geriatric Joe as prez, I still want to know what kind of voting fraud was perpetrated. I want to know how many machines were set to kick out 60+ percent of ballots for examination and "re-purposing"

Will that happen? Will Bull Durham get to the bottom of pee-pee gate? Will the graft of Joe and Hunter be exposed? Probably not. Not if Tater Stelter and his ilk have anything to not say about it.

Posted by: Sphynx at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (rXie1)

352 Political geeks everywhere anxiously await the traditional JFK School spring forum of the two campaign managers, where the musical question will be answered: how did Biden sag very badly in every Dem metro, not to mention key counties in swing states - except for 4-5 key counties - and yet manage to win. A pattern never seen before.

And how the Dems managed to win despite losing ground with every key robot component of their "base".

Then again, I doubt this forum will take place this cycle. But the very concept is darkly hilarious.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (OTzUX)

353 I remember a few months ago, Sarah Hoyt describing it as the Dems were not running an election campaign but a fraud operation.
Posted by: Hands at December 15, 2020 01:07 PM (786Ro)

Which Dementia Patient-Elect Biden admitted in so many words in a Freudian slip.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (YqDXo)

354 Unless a meteor brings us some new carbon, the planet is carbon neutral already.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (1ISKN)

...

But leaking helium.

Does no one care about the helium?

Posted by: TexasDan at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (2HIdp)

355 327 McConnell's heavily connected Chinese wife is just a coincidence.

Posted by: nip at December 15, 2020 01:06 PM (cpS4u)

Everyone in DC have surrendered to the Chinese money machine. The Chinese own our government.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (Fs5vw)

356 I have very religious nevertrump freinds (HAD, i guess at this point). My wife was yelling at them for voting for Biden. They didn't get it. Said they couldn't stand trumps tweets. I calmly asked if they like their church and religious private school. I asked if they would like to keep it.

Not even inaugurated and now i see #taxthechurches trending on twitter.

How about this: GoodandHard, fucking retards. You'll get it good and hard and then I'll also remind you everytime you complain about it that it's your fault. Fucking idiots. Idiots everywhere.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (SScvq)

357 I'm just about back to 'let it burn.'

--

It's going to anyway. The only difference this time is your (and our) desire to really see it happen. Before, I didn't truly want it to burn. I wanted my America. I wanted her saved. And the people in it to want to save it for all the right reasons. Now, my America doesn't exist. We have no rights. It's not America. I don't fool myself into thinking it will change at this point, except to get worse. If it burns, I could literally care less because I'm no longer invested in preserving this bastardized, corrupt, stolen version of what this country's supposed to be.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (O+I8R)

358 The idiotic idea that hollow points are inhumane comes from a ridiculous international convention on warfare (the Hague) that tried to codify the insanity that is war.

In reality, hollowpoints are less likely to ricochet with harmful effects, as others have said upstream, more likely to stop within the person rather than harming those beyond through excessive penetration, and ironically more likely to stop an attack which might just save the perpetrator's life.

In police shootings, when limited to fmj, it took multiple shots to put someone down and often bystanders were injured or killed, including cops, when bullets hit hard surfaces at shallow angles and ricocheted or overpenetrated the perpetrator to affect those beyond. The more wounds, the more likely someone is to bleed out and die but not necessarily in enough time that the person could give a mortal wound to the good guys. So mag dumps became common to stop the threat--see Diallou case for example in NYC.

In the military's case, it has access to more potent weapons such as mortars, artillery, rockets, and so on for mass mayhem. For the most part, the military treat small arms as basically to preserve the life of the soldier and protect equipment rather than offensive in nature because they have bigger and better tools to do harm to the enemy now. So Hague restrictions are not a big deal (and btw may not apply when fighting unlawful combatants under the Geneva convention as those are treated as criminals rather than soldiers).

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:11 PM (pO7gM)

359 JUST IN - "Super-contagious" mutated #COVID19 strain has spread to Scotland and Wales. Genetic code analysis suggests it originated in South East England and was not imported from abroad.
Posted by: bat nationalist

How many Chinese were "in country" in the last month?

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 01:11 PM (S3Inb)

360 Not sure about the precedent being set here. Seems like this felony murder charge applying to someone not pulling the trigger could be twisted around and abused in other circumstances.

Just my opinion.
Posted by: Lurker moron at December 15, 2020 12:17 PM (03m5s)

Nothing unusual about this application of felony murder. Cases like this are basically why the felony murder law exists, where it does exist.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2020 01:12 PM (mzC78)

361 "Libertarianism is based on the same romantic view of human behavior as is Leftist ideals such as Rousseau and through Marx as the fruit of the Enlightenment. JS Mill, Locke, etc. all believed that humans were basically good and were/are warped by society. Both ignore history or distort it to fit their frame instead of simply recognizing that some will choose to do evil if given a choice and some of them will band together to cause evil things to happen on a massive scale--wars, pogroms, genocide, etc."

This is very weird because I was always impressed by the complete opposite, that libertarianism works with human nature instead of insisting that it doesn't exist, that people are perfectible somehow or will behave in any way other than self-interest. That we ARE selfish.

Now, sure, lots of people take that "selfish" part and run with it all sorts of odd places but really the whole point of something like Atlas Shrugged was that people behaving with self-interest made good choices, built things, and created wealth, while altruism was the ultimate lie.

So it's the opposite of this. Human nature is what it is. The market, for example, works with human nature. The farmer doesn't feed people because he's a loving person. The farmer feeds people because he gets paid for it, because the food grown can be traded for nice things that make him and his family comfortable and the more food he produces the more he can enrich himself.

The goal is to encourage people to look to long term self-interest instead of instant gratification but it's still all about what makes your own life better.

Posted by: Synova at December 15, 2020 01:12 PM (BD/yx)

362 OT but can someone please tell me why Today had Jenna Bush with Hoda Kotb?

..

You watch Today?
Posted by: LOL at December 15, 2020 12:52 PM (8ft+D)

Weren't the Bush brats hired by NBC for having the distinction of being more personable than Chubbell?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 15, 2020 01:12 PM (y7DUB)

363 RHomboid - excellent point. Feels like everytime a dem wins the WH, the campaign manager is hoisted upon a pedastal as the next genius to rule politics forever more.

Can you even name Biden's campaign manager?

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2020 01:12 PM (SScvq)

364 Here's what gets frustrating. Once, a bunch of us were together, having a few drinks. One of the ex's friends, a nurse, just had to butt in when the topic of guns was brought up. She thought they should all be melted down and made into a statue of something. I then refreshed her memory on the subject of really creepy mass murderer Richard Speck, and his rapin' and killin' spree with eight soon to be nurses, and maybe, just maybe, if one of those girls had a gun and knew how to use it Speck would have been on the slab. Her response "that girl with a gun would probably shoot an innocent person". Yep, that's what you have to deal with.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at December 15, 2020 01:13 PM (I58tH)

365 If it burns, I could literally care less because I'm
no longer invested in preserving this bastardized, corrupt, stolen
version of what this country's supposed to be.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 01:10 PM (O+I8R)

Can't argue with that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2020 01:13 PM (9Om/r)

366 Elementary schools nationwide ban chewing gum due to idiots like Cupp and whatshername because they stick chewed gum under their desks.

Then the preaching begins. It usually starts with I told you so.

Posted by: Birth Pangs at December 15, 2020 01:13 PM (uc+oy)

367 Yeah, no. Read the court documents and testimony. His mom deliberately moved the shooter from every situation the minute they wanted to label or institutionalize him. She thought she knew what was best. He needed mor interests. Like firearms. For that faulty judgment she paid with her life.

Posted by: Marcus T at December 15, 2020 01:13 PM (FGbUr)

368 347 Why would you exclude gang shootings?

Because it's mostly targeted shithead on shithead violence.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (UW2ZS)

...

And in fairness, there's not a law that could be written that would change the tally.

If we're going to talk about laws based on gun deaths let's at least talk about the gun deaths that could be changed by laws.

Of which there are really very few, and even of those you have to ask if the death would be prevented or simply the cause of death switched to something else.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 15, 2020 01:14 PM (2HIdp)

369 Political geeks everywhere anxiously await the traditional JFK School spring forum of the two campaign managers, where the musical question will be answered: how did Biden sag very badly in every Dem metro, not to mention key counties in swing states - except for 4-5 key counties - and yet manage to win. A pattern never seen before.

And consider that once the Dems bounce President ~~Hindenburg~~ Biden Kamala "Roundheels" Harris will be President. Fresh off her whirlwind Presidential campaign, in which she participate long enough to be in a primary election, and during which she polled (?) FIFTH in what was putatively her home state.

Mandate of heaven, I guess.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:14 PM (YqDXo)

370 Everyone in DC have surrendered to the Chinese money machine. The Chinese own our government.

--

A sick, sad truth.

What The People really needed spelled out for them in the Constitution is the technical way to go about dissolving the bonds that unite us to that bastardized government that now pollutes Washington. Yes, Article V. Yes, we have guns. But being realistic, there isn't a clear way forward other than civil war. How do we get out of this? "When in the course of human events..." is here. Right here and now. And we need to dissolve this corrupt government. But the job to do so is immense, and the path to get there unclear.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 01:14 PM (O+I8R)

371 126 Is it big news that Barr is stepping down?

I think it's interesting news that neither he nor Trump have said he's stepping down, or resigning. Just that's he's going home for Christmas.

Also interesting: it's mid-December. Why do anything if you're supposedly gone in five weeks?
Posted by: t-bird

Barr can't be AG and a witness against Deep State DOJ actors like Wray.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 15, 2020 01:14 PM (kfcYC)

372 346 As a father, I think about gun safety all of the time and I have developed my son into one of the top ranked trap shooters in the state
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (KRCYP)

Have you taught and prepared him for the time he might have to kill another human being?

My mom did.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 01:15 PM (Fs5vw)

373 I'll gladly die in a hail of bullets before I live in a country where mandatory propaganda news is forced upon me by people like tater stelter.

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2020 01:15 PM (SScvq)

374 no, I want Trump to go scorched earth. I'm not kidding.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 12:15 PM (sfhL4)

That's one of the biggest problems we have. Too many people wanting someone else to do something for them.
Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 12:51 PM (Fs5vw)

According to the Constitution. Yes. Trump holds more power. We voted. Canvased. Rallied. And we voted Trump back in. What is your solution?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 01:15 PM (sfhL4)

375

Kayleigh only talking about c c pvirus

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 01:15 PM (sfhL4)

376 >>Yeah, no. Read the court documents and testimony. . .

Interesting -- I've only read the father's account, which is naturally colored by his guilt at not helping more.

Posted by: Lizzy at December 15, 2020 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

377 Hey, what you do? You can't fool me, there ain't no Sanity Clause!

Posted by: Archer at December 15, 2020 01:16 PM (gmo/4)

378 JUST IN - "Super-contagious" mutated #COVID19 strain has spread to Scotland and Wales. Genetic code analysis suggests it originated in South East England and was not imported from abroad.
Posted by: bat nationalist

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Wow! What a coincidence that it just happens to have appeared the very same year at the Chinese Wuhan Flu! What. Are. The. Odds!

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 15, 2020 01:16 PM (O+I8R)

379 347 Why would you exclude gang shootings?

Because it's mostly targeted shithead on shithead violence.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 15, 2020 01:09 PM (UW2ZS)

Again, read "Ghettoside." There's a lot of shithead on shithead violence, but there's also a lot of shithead on innocent bystander violence, for two reasons: 1) the shitheads can barely hit the ground in three tries, and 2) if they're trying to get street cred with their fellow shitheads, it's a lot safer to walk up behind some poor unsuspecting slob and blow him away. Doing that to another shithead is dangerous, because they live that life, and are typically on the lookout.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 15, 2020 01:17 PM (YqDXo)

380 Hypothetical question:

If a well armed militia showed up at a state house, dragged out the gov, legislature and judges, lined them up and covered them in syrup and feathers at gun point and let them go after 2 hours in the cold, would that get the message across?

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2020 01:17 PM (SScvq)

381
According to the Constitution. Yes. Trump holds more power. We voted. Canvased. Rallied. And we voted Trump back in. What is your solution?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 15, 2020 01:15 PM (sfhL4)

The comment that you reacted to was one suggestion. I made a suggestion in the thread before this about our individual actions. I'm not looking to DC to "save" my freedom.

Freedom starts with us individually.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 01:22 PM (Fs5vw)

382 In the military's case, it has access to more potent weapons such as mortars, artillery, rockets, and so on for mass mayhem. For the most part, the military treat small arms as basically to preserve the life of the soldier and protect equipment rather than offensive in nature because they have bigger and better tools to do harm to the enemy now. So Hague restrictions are not a big deal (and btw may not apply when fighting unlawful combatants under the Geneva convention as those are treated as criminals rather than soldiers).
Posted by: whig

Always struck me as funny. Not ha ha, either.
I couldn't use a jhp, but I could use HE or napalm to kill or disfigure someone.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 01:24 PM (S3Inb)

383 330 Marcus, and Jay Guevara,

Yes. As rhetoric in Kant's time, it was a useful counterpoint to 'original sin' doctrine prevalent at the time. Many of the people pushing this view had a history of seeing religion being abused as justification for all sorts of controls on thought and speech.

The risk to original sin that is that someone with no hope of redemption (a lot of variants of original sin had a elect and those that were damned through no fault of their own or allowed people to 'purchase' forgiveness for sins.) would lead to destructive lives. The common justification is that after the first murder, the rest are 'free'. If someone believes themselves to be damned regardless of their actions, then they will behave accordingly as a self fulfilling prophecy.

As dialectic, the idea that people are basically good has made for all sorts of mischief-such as the dictatorship of the proletariat, wokeness, justification for anarchy, etc.

I find it amusing that people are shocked when you make drugs legal but taxed, people still buy illegal weed (see Colorado and California) for example and the massive windfall of taxes collected never materializes. Or that overdoses through cannabis being in baked goods occur.

A bit of history regarding drugs, alcohol, etc. would disabuse them of the notion quickly.

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:24 PM (pO7gM)

384 380 Hypothetical question:

If a well armed militia showed up at a state house, dragged out the gov, legislature and judges, lined them up and covered them in syrup and feathers at gun point and let them go after 2 hours in the cold, would that get the message across?

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2020 01:17 PM (SScvq)

There should be some bears in there somewhere.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 01:24 PM (Fs5vw)

385 382 rick223b,

Yes, the distinction between using a .50 bmg round on material that just happened to have soldiers in it versus supposedly being immoral if they were targeted solely as a soldier target is laughably Victorian (technically Edwardian I guess) in attitude.

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:26 PM (pO7gM)

386 Putin finally congratulates Biden on win.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 01:26 PM (S3Inb)

387 380 Hypothetical question:

If a well armed militia showed up at a state house, dragged out the gov, legislature and judges, lined them up and covered them in syrup and feathers at gun point and let them go after 2 hours in the cold, would that get the message across?

Posted by: Eli Cash at December 15, 2020 01:17 PM (SScvq)

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Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 15, 2020 01:28 PM (MkuC5)

388 In the military's case, it has access to more potent weapons such as mortars, artillery, rockets, and so on for mass mayhem. For the most part, the military treat small arms as basically to preserve the life of the soldier and protect equipment rather than offensive in nature because they have bigger and better tools to do harm to the enemy now. So Hague restrictions are not a big deal (and btw may not apply when fighting unlawful combatants under the Geneva convention as those are treated as criminals rather than soldiers).
Posted by: whig

Always struck me as funny. Not ha ha, either.
I couldn't use a jhp, but I could use HE or napalm to kill or disfigure someone.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 15, 2020 01:24 PM (S3Inb)

All that armament is useless without ammo. Ammo is usually stored far away from base activities. And it's usually not that well guarded.

Think on that as you will.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 15, 2020 01:29 PM (Fs5vw)

389 The only way I can justify why Perdue didn't demand a signature review to pull him over the 50% + 1 is bc someone in the GOP told him to STFU bc it also would have won the race for PDT. The only two powerful enough to silence him were McConnell and Ronna Romney McDaniels. I'm betting it was both.
Posted by: EveR at December 15, 2020 01:08 PM (DsGxB)

You just hit the Bingo Powerball.

Trump needs to send Ronna Romney to the moon. Stat.

Posted by: Voter theater. at December 15, 2020 01:30 PM (Dzqx5)

390 385 382 rick223b,

Yes, the distinction between using a .50 bmg round on material that just happened to have soldiers in it versus supposedly being immoral if they were targeted solely as a soldier target is laughably Victorian (technically Edwardian I guess) in attitude.
Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:26 PM (pO7gM)

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I guess that's reason the Victorian\Edwardians limited their machine guns to the .30 cal variety?

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 15, 2020 01:31 PM (MkuC5)

391 364 bill in arkansas,

There is a certain type of person that feels overwhelmed and denies self agency to cope. Thus, whatever happens to them is external and not their fault in any way. Their magic view of the world is that the firearm causes people to be bad rather than bad people use firearms as tools to hurt and kill people.

In a similar way, I see people despairing here regarding the election rather than figuring out ways to cope and prepare. Me, I hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:32 PM (pO7gM)

392 rhomboid,
I have read the proceedings of the campaign manager forums in the past. Most campaign managers that are any good are pretty unemotional. Not true in 2016. Now wonder if a failed attempt to cheat enough accounted for that.

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:36 PM (pO7gM)

393 .58 cal std civil war rifle round

Posted by: USA at December 15, 2020 01:37 PM (Y274z)

394

The left is deeply, deeply into child abuse and rape. The next step will be movies TV shows and commercials in which an adult and an obviously underage teenager is clearly in a romantic relationship. Then they will get younger, and younger, and younger...

Posted by: 'Mike' HOLMES at December 15, 2020 01:39 PM (SFdNn)

395 Fwiw, the original cartridge used by the Brits in 1888 for the Maxim machine gun was the .577/450 Martini.

Posted by: whig at December 15, 2020 01:39 PM (pO7gM)

396 "Once again: "Libertarian" just means a sneering liberal who wants to take drugs."

Yes, and all republicans a RINO's and all conservatives want to bring on The Handmaids Tale.

Sheesh, "it is immoral to initiate violence". This is such a radical philosophy. Many people claim to be libertarians, Catholics, progressives, etc and don't even have the closest relationship with the behaviors of the philosophies they claim to follow.

Don't be a progressive, don't blame some for the sins of others.

Posted by: Snidely Whiplash at December 15, 2020 02:36 PM (dVp8a)

397 Looked up gunt. Made a card. Stop it already, you're killing me over here.

Posted by: bour3 at December 15, 2020 02:54 PM (D1ZYA)

398 "They committed a felony which resulted, indirectly, in the deaths of two people. It doesn't matter that those two people were their accomplices. That's the neat thing about the felony murder charge."

Yeah, its fun. But I don't think its good law.

Posted by: LiveFreeOrDiet at December 15, 2020 04:26 PM (H9lUe)

399 Also John McCain was a great man. As is GA Gov. Kemp.

The GOP has been fighting so hard for Trump in fact that I may reregister.
Posted by: nip at December 15, 2020 12:24 PM (cpS4u)

At least they managed to remain clothed in public.

Posted by: Persona Non Grata at December 15, 2020 05:00 PM (w+Ped)

400 Looks like the Democrats just lost two of their voters and supporters way too bad and i am sure Biden the Thief will want the Home Owner arrested for using gun instead of disarming smile on them

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at December 15, 2020 05:37 PM (FLiOE)

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