Now Joe Biden's Brother James Biden Is Being Investigated by the Feds for Involvement in Bankrupting Hospital

Also: The FBI put the Hunter Biden investigation on pause for the election.

Note that they were full steam ahead with spying on Trump in 2016.

Fuck these animals.

Joe Biden's younger brother James is investigated by Feds over his role in Pennsylvania hospital business - day after revelation that Hunter is also being probed over his tax affairs

James Biden, the older of Joe Biden's two younger brothers is caught up in an FBI probe into a bankrupt hospital chain

FBI has asked about his role in Americore, which ran rural hospitals but whose CEO is accused of siphoning off cash for personal gain

James Biden was involved in it since 2017 and been named as its 'principal' although he has disputed that and others said he was an investor

Revelation came after Hunter Biden put out a statement Wednesday saying his taxes are being investigated by the U.S. Attorney's Office in Delaware

Probe is into his lucrative Chinese business dealings and was prompted by Treasury 'suspicious activity reports' which flag possible money laundering

Hunter probe was put on hold before election under principle called 'rule of forbearance' not to actively investigate candidates or those close to them

Republican senator Tom Cotton called revelation of investigation 'family corruption' and demands a special counsel investigation


...

Now the election is over, prosecutors in Delaware, the IRS Criminal Investigation agency and the FBI, have stepped up their probe by issuing subpoenas and seeking interviews.

The decision for investigators and prosecutors not to move on Hunter, and possibly on James too, before the election appears to have been made because of the Justice Department's convention known as 'the rule of forbearance.'

Although it is not codified in law or formal guidance to U.S. Attorneys, Barr re-iterated the principle in April, telling conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt: 'The idea is you don't go after candidates.

'You don't indict candidates or perhaps someone that's sufficiently close to a candidate, that it's essentially the same, you know, within a certain number of days before an election.'

Meanwhile:

@johnrobertsFox

Posing this question: If @Twitter and @Facebook censor a news story that ultimately turns out to be true, what does that say about the role of big tech in our democracy?

Which of these is most likely to be true?

1, even this stupid cvck gets it.

2, this stupid cvck does not in fact get it, but Fox is losing viewers and they have issued the command to their "journalists" to put The Masks back on, to trick the rubes into thinking Fox is any different than CNN.

Posted by: Ace at 02:55 PM




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1 !

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:54 PM (L8ADy)

2 You did that on purpose.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:54 PM (L8ADy)

3 Ok, I'll go nood.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (L8ADy)

4 now it's all about getting rid of Joe to make way for Kamala.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)

5 under the wire!

Posted by: DanMan at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (aUOqu)

6 Looks like they want Kramalala sooner than later...

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (MkuC5)

7 Family bidness..

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (Pqytn)

8 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

9 *licks finger, holds up to the wind*
*squints at horizon*

Many trolls, tonight. Fear and panic will bring them.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (t+qrx)

10 Completely corrupt

Posted by: Jmel at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (j4ihv)

11 Failed to be first!

Posted by: Biden's Dog at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (4S1Up)

12 now it's all about getting rid of Joe to make way for Kamala.
Posted by: Tom Servo at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)


Kinda like they knew all this stuff ahead of time, huh?

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (L8ADy)

13 Trump's family being investigated by the feds for financial crimes would be enough to convict Trump himself, I believe.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (NWM+b)

14 Nice to have the FBI on your side

Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (zUdXR)

15 Let's get 100 responses STAT. 3 PM is fast approaching.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (Pqytn)

16 Special Counsel, yadda yadda yadda.

Someone wake me when something ACTUALLY happens to one of these people.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (XeEyo)

17 Uncle Joe will finally return decency and honor to the White House!

---- Ben Domenech's wife $$$$$

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (ptqGC)

18 Geez, FIB isn't a strong enough hack name.

Posted by: Axeman at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (Eicbe)

19

Why it's as if the whole election was a big set up to get Kameltoe in the White House by hook or by crook.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (XbMF/)

20 Bankrupting Hospital...

Is it talk like a Brit Day?


let's do.


Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (YzTaW)

21 We know the Feds are Deep State
so who is greenlighting these Biden investigations?

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (nUhF0)

22 All democrat families are crime families.

All of them.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

23 Many trolls, tonight. Fear and panic will bring them.
Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2020 02:55 PM (t+qrx)


With Newsom shutting down all the restaurants, it's the shits for dishwashers.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (L8ADy)

24 Yeah, I feel like I am being told to care about Biden corruption post-election. I think I'm going to decline.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (H5knJ)

25 Oh, we'll give you the investigation special, all right.

Posted by: FBI at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (xfb67)

26 hasn't Bernie Sanders' wife been under investigation for the last few years too?

Posted by: josephistan at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (Izzlo)

27 This GA House hearing is lit. Holy cat balls.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (ptqGC)

28 Why do they bother investigating him at all?

Posted by: Iasonas at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (IVj0Y)

29 > Kinda like they knew all this stuff ahead of time, huh?

Yeah, that was the plan.

They knew that Kamaltoe could never, ever be elected. No one likes her, especially not blacks.

So they used Dopey Joe as a front man.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (7Kh21)

30 The 60 million real votes Joe got would still be the same, tragically.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (4NtsG)

31

You said it for me Ace.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (sfhL4)

32 The FBI put the Hunter Biden investigation on pause for the election.

Barr pretty much announced that would happen because they were afraid it would influence the election and that would be bad, somehow.

Because the jobs of politicians are more important than justice, evidently

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (KZzsI)

33


THIS IS JUST MORE TRUMP STUFF

- JOE BIDEN

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (lg/F7)

34 Great family. They make the Sopranos look like the Waltons.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (woUN+)

35 The FBI = the dimocrap criminal organization's (aka; dim party) personal Stasi

They're corrupt from top to bottom. Not just the leadership, the whole stinking mess

Posted by: Uncle Rick at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (48/MM)

36 hasn't Bernie Sanders' wife been under investigation for the last few years too?

Posted by: josephistan at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (Izzlo)


Yeah, she managed to bankrupt a college....but no biggie.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (ptqGC)

37 Rush opining that these leaks and death by a thousand cuts of Biden now after the election is coming from the Kamala Harris crowd. He's toast ... either way.

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (JN3C9)

38 Which of these is most likely to be true?

1, even this stupid cvck gets it.

2, this stupid cvck does not in fact get it, but Fox is losing viewers and they have issued the command to their "journalists" to put The Masks back on, to trick the rubes into thinking Fox is any different than CNN.

Posted by: Ace at 02:55 PM

=========

3: Hacked account

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (NWM+b)

39 They knew that Kamaltoe could never, ever be elected. No one likes her, especially not blacks.

The DNC is dumb enough they thought they could pull it off but when she got cratered in the second mega debate, they figured out it wasn't going to happen, even with mass cheating and mega ChiCom money and influence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (KZzsI)

40 The whole Biden family is a bunch of rat-fuck felons!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (WOYcU)

41

Why it's as if the whole election was a big set up to get Kameltoe in the White House by hook or by crook.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (XbMF/)

YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BLACK WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (lg/F7)

42 >>>Fuck these animals.

he has seen the other hard drives.

Posted by: Hunter B. at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (prPBq)

43 Crazy thinking cap on:

The FBI is announcing these investigations now, so that they can then announce that they have cleared Hunter and James right before the inauguration.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (XeEyo)

44 >>'You don't indict candidates or perhaps someone that's sufficiently close to a candidate, that it's essentially the same, you know, within a certain number of days before an election.'


Cite that Code for me, Sport.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (YzTaW)

45 We know the Feds are Deep State
so who is greenlighting these Biden investigations?
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (nUhF0)


Seems kinda like a lot of money to spend when all they need to do if they want to get rid of Joe is make him take a cognition test.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (L8ADy)

46 Democrat voters now get to see what they voted for. This is what they sold their souls for in order to get rid of Orange Man Bad.

Satan has a great sense of humor.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - See The Outrage Outlet for A Piece of Mind! at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (0QYMt)

47 Nice to have the FBI on your side
Posted by: Zeera I should be writing right now


Just like Nationwide Insurance.


And remember, life comes at you fast.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (vcOmj)

48 'rule of forebearance?'

What the actual Fuck?

So THIS is why Hillary skated?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (d9rwJ)

49 50

Posted by: ALH at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (YxfPJ)

50 Shouldn't that sawed off guinea prick, Fauci, be on the hook for bankrupting hospitals?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (y7DUB)

51 The Democrats will be ready to impeach Biden on day one.

Posted by: f'd at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (+y8uL)

52 What's the difference between Biden and Harris being president?

They're both corrupt whores owned by Chynah.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)

53 Doesn't James still owe settlement money to a family of a car crash victim where he was at fault?

Posted by: Ktgreat at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (AD3JT)

54 Just a little early

Posted by: ALH at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (YxfPJ)

55 43 Crazy thinking cap on:

The FBI is announcing these investigations now, so that they can then announce that they have cleared Hunter and James right before the inauguration.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (XeEyo)


Nah. Wray would've come out and stated "no reasonable prosecutor..." etc."

Then again Trump is still the President.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (s2VJv)

56 Maybe another option: they think Biden won so they can go on Team Opposition now.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (KZzsI)

57 TrumpStuff! It's what's for breakfast!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (Uhu8A)

58 Here's an idea.

How about we have something called, I dunno, a "department of justice" or something, and *it* investigates and prosecutes crimes.

No more "special counsel" nonsense.

Other than conventional individual recusal for the normal reasons, for individual staff, no more of this out-sourcing.

Oh, afraid they won't do their job?

Easy. Set up a very small parallel, permanent outfit, with entirely separate chain of command and career path, to oversee any investigations you don't trust. Sort of a super IG, but with operational oversight authority, teeth.

Budget to come out of DOJ's, no overall increase.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (OTzUX)

59 The FBI is announcing these investigations now, so that they can then announce that they have cleared Hunter and James right before the inauguration.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (XeEyo)


Not that crazy. They can wrap those investigations pretty fast when they want to.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (L8ADy)

60 37 Rush opining that these leaks and death by a thousand cuts of Biden now after the election is coming from the Kamala Harris crowd. He's toast ... either way.
Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (JN3C9)

a coup within a coup

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (prPBq)

61 John Roberts' wife is an ABC reporter that Disney has let go. So there's that.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (ptqGC)

62 Does not that 'rule' fly in the face of the Equal Protection under the Law that Constitution demands?

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (d9rwJ)

63 It's like the Frau Blucher horse joke in "Young Frankenstein". Whenever "Biden" is mentioned in a press conference, Kamala whinnies.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (Pqytn)

64 35 The FBI = the dimocrap criminal organization's (aka; dim party) personal Stasi

They're corrupt from top to bottom. Not just the leadership, the whole stinking mess
Posted by: Uncle Rick at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (48/MM)


Fortunately, the FBI can't find its ass with both hands and a flashlight.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (woUN+)

65 'You don't indict candidates or perhaps someone that's sufficiently close to a candidate, that it's essentially the same, you know, within a certain number of days before an election.'


Why not? If you won't hesitate to nail a guy before his kid's bar mitzvah, or his daughter's quinceanera, why would you wait before an election? Since we are ALL equal in the eyes of the law.

Yeah. Spit.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (fu1JC)

66 It's disturbing to realize we don't have a "press" in the sense that we have had for the last 100 years anymore.

Another moron nailed it. Imagine Pearl Harbor not only NOT reported on by news agencies receiving funding from the Japanese, but that you'd risk being fired from work if you talked about it.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (FY89y)

67 He should hook up with Bernie Sanders wife and see if they can bankrupt some medical schools.

Posted by: Shooter McGavin at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (4uSHG)

68 You think that Joe's promise to Barack to resign if he and Harris disagreed on something would be enough!

Posted by: Axeman at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (Eicbe)

69 Among the teasers I haven't seen Rudy & Co. develop was the alleged big-time corruption of Jim regarding Iraq reconstruction contracts. Could be me, I mighta missed it.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (OTzUX)

70 Biden is going to pardon his entire family on day 1.

Then, he'll shit his pants and be removed by the 25th.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (YzTaW)

71 By the time I finish typing this, the responses from the states of GA, PA, MI, and WI are due at the USSC.
PA has obliged.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (w7KSn)

72 Clearly, the coordinated plan is to make sure that Biden's tenure, should it come to pass, will be only an asterisk in the history books. All of these stories have been ready to go. All that was needed was instructions from Obama and/or Jar-Jar.

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (qe5CM)

73 Right after PA responded to Texas lawsuit PA Legislature filed an amicus brief in support of Texas lawsuit...against PA.

This is no longer a Constitutional Crisis.
This is now a Hostage Situation.

We need John McClane

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (ZR7kf)

74 a coup within a coup

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (prPBq)

a deuce coup?

Posted by: FBI at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (xfb67)

75 Why it's as if the whole election was a big set up to get Kameltoe in the White House by hook or by crook.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 10, 2020 02:56 PM (XbMF/)

YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BLACK WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (lg/F7)
------
Who would have thought that Willie Brown's dick was potentially the key to the White House?

*pre-emptive "ew"*

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (Uhu8A)

76 Kamala has not even announced she is giving up her senate seat. Weird.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (prPBq)

77 Our liberal friends and family believe the MSM. Always. It is their truth, the lens through which they view the world.

Posted by: iandeal at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (gohv5)

78 I'd love to have a Department of Justice that was so zealous they were utterly in contempt of politics and anyone's jobs, only interested in the facts and the truth. I want a DOJ that does not care when or how the election may be influenced, only what the case is and what the crimes were.

Justice is depicted with a blindfold for a reason, you rat bastards.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (KZzsI)

79 @johnrobertsFox
Posing this question: If @Twitter and @Facebook censor a news story that ultimately turns out to be true, what does that say about the role of big tech in our democracy?


You're an idiot, John.

GFY.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (Zz0t1)

80 Can't wait until Biden makes universal Healthcare mandatory and the Government takes over.

- Democrats everywhere.

Posted by: Darth Randall at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (iWCRg)

81 Obama's third term is gonna be ugly.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (sWM8x)

82 Easy. Set up a very small parallel, permanent outfit, with entirely separate chain of command and career path, to oversee any investigations you don't trust. Sort of a super IG, but with operational oversight authority, teeth.

Have it run by the party out of power. Same thing with PBS.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (woUN+)

83 60 37 Rush opining that these leaks and death by a thousand cuts of Biden now after the election is coming from the Kamala Harris crowd. He's toast ... either way.
Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (JN3C9)

a coup within a coup
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (prPBq)

They wanted to get rid of Trump. They think they cheated in the election enough to win.

But even THEY are not crazy enough to want Biden as President.

This crap will peak, right after inauguration day, no matter WHO gets sworn in.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (d9rwJ)

84 4 now it's all about getting rid of Joe to make way for Kamala.
---------------------------
I don't think so. Its about denying Trump a clean victory. Trump has not dropped the big one on Hillary, et al, and this may be Hillary's/Comey's payback to gain face. See the language in the PA response to the Supremes. They are asking that they be overturned.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (T1Dne)

85 I'm way beyond predicting what will happen - honestly don't feel great - but I have this fantasy that the SC directly decides this case. Throws the illegal votes out and hands the election to Trump - except in this fantasy they all cast their votes one by one.

The Justices make their decisions in declining order of seniority, live on TV. So it's 4-4 because Roberts is a scumbag. The ninth and deciding vote is not cast until they pan to a gigantic black and white picture of RBG. Then you hear the light riffing of some drums. Soon the familiar guitar kicks in.

It's Hot For Teacher. Amy Coney Barrett busts through the picture in living color, dressed in a red bikini, dancing like the girl in the video, with MAGA written on her body in bright red lipstick and confetti flying around.

She casts in favor of PDJT and keeps dancing while 75 million legitimate voters rejoice. I'm just spitballing.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (LFUkn)

86 Someone posted in an earlier thread... Joe was always supposed to step back and let the people really in charge work... but he (or more likely his people) are fighting for say.
This is Deep state reminding Joe he's not in charge here.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (+2xjH)

87 The FBI is announcing these investigations now, so that they can then announce that they have cleared Hunter and James right before the inauguration.
----------------------

Nah they would have kept it all buried. This is about torpedoing joe.

Posted by: Ward at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (nzKWW)

88 What's the difference between Biden and Harris being president?

They're both corrupt whores owned by Chynah.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 02:59 PM (Zz0t1)


If it gets right down to it - I'd MUCH rather watch Biden rattle on for 10 minutes than Kabala scold us for 30, in between cackles. Joe is at least entertaining.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (L8ADy)

89 70 Biden is going to pardon his entire family on day 1.

Then, he'll shit his pants and be removed by the 25th.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (YzTaW)

But muh norms!

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (XeEyo)

90 Our liberal friends and family believe the MSM. Always. It is their truth, the lens through which they view the world.
Posted by: iandeal at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (gohv5)


I don't have any liberal friends or family.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (woUN+)

91
Ummm, holy crap.

When You Fight Like A Flynn,
The Bad Guys NEVER Win!

https://tinyurl.com/yyln4jum

Lin Wood yesterday released this incredible video showing the patriots leading the charge against the Deep State - tgp

Shooting at Soros, the JEF, etc. Balzy video.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (sfhL4)

92 You don't indict candidates or perhaps someone that's sufficiently close to a candidate, that it's essentially the same, you know, within a certain number of days before an election.'


Cite that Code for me, Sport.
Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (YzTaW)


The founders would surely horsewhip anyone suggesting that; and by "founders" I mean me.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (y7DUB)

93 Door #2, Ace.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (hYcqw)

94 At this point, can we just start calling Joe Junior Soprano?

Figurehead in charge of nothing with his only support coming from people who want to dump him as soon as possible.

Posted by: Grip the Weasel at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (KbCG3)

95 "Motion for Leave to File Brief as Amicus Curiae and Brief for Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly. as Amicus Curiae in Support of Plaintiff/Defendants of Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly as Amicus Curiae in Support of Plaintiff/Defendants submitted."

The filing: https://tinyurl.com/PA-Leg-Amicus

Various members of the PA Legislature.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (BM2fS)

96 I'll take number 2 FTW Alec.

Posted by: Muad'dib at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (sjdRT)

97 >>>61 John Roberts' wife is an ABC reporter that Disney has let go. So there's that.
Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh

oh, so maybe this stupid cvck realizes he better hold on tight to his job now.

Posted by: ace at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (nuqdl)

98 And . . .

"Motion of Certain Select Pennsylvania State Senators for leave to file amicus brief submitted."

Document:

https://tinyurl.com/PA-Senators-Ami

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (BM2fS)

99 It's interesting that the FBI gave Swallowswell a heads up that his Chinese honey was a spy, and so Fartswell told her and she was able to leave the country.

How convenient.

Meanwhile, even before Trump's inauguration, there were the rumors that the Russians were infiltrating his administration, and instead of giving Trump a heads up, they SET UP Trump's people and attempted to set up his son.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (ptqGC)

100 Someone posted in an earlier thread... Joe was always supposed to step back and let the people really in charge work... but he (or more likely his people) are fighting for say.
This is Deep state reminding Joe he's not in charge here.
Posted by: Inogame



Jill Biden.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (fu1JC)

101
She casts in favor of PDJT and keeps dancing while 75 million legitimate voters rejoice. I'm just spitballing.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (LFUkn)

Can you add a lesbian re-write to the script?

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (+2xjH)

102 The real question is, if twitter and facebook censor a story that is palpably, prima facie true and de-platform those who report it, what does that say about the role of Big Tech in our democracy?

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (H8QX8)

103 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS (asshole states)

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)

104 And the beat goes on.

La di da di dee.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (XxJt1)

105 Right after PA responded to Texas lawsuit PA Legislature filed an amicus brief in support of Texas lawsuit...against PA.



This is no longer a Constitutional Crisis.

This is now a Hostage Situation.



We need John McClane - Posted by Shenanigans
============================
The greatest legislative troll in US history.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (Pqytn)

106 If it gets right down to it - I'd MUCH rather watch Biden rattle on for 10 minutes than Kabala scold us for 30, in between cackles. Joe is at least entertaining.
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (L8ADy)


And there's the dramatic tension, wondering if Joe is going to blue-screen any minute.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (woUN+)

107 https://twitter.com/BlueSky_Report/
status/1337124286910394373

MOAB: FCC begins process of halting China Telecom U.S. operations. The FCC formally designated China's Huawei and ZTE Corp as threats, a declaration that bars U.S. firms from tapping an $8.3 billion government fund to purchase equipment from the companies.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (prPBq)

108 And this is particularly sleazy. Rural medical care is often quite limited in this country, and rural hospitals struggle mightily under the burden of regulation and insurance. Fleecing already-marginal players is really shitty. This is like the embezzlement equivalent of fleecing little old ladies out of their pensions.

Those Bidens. What a family.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (hYcqw)

109 We need John McClane
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (ZR7kf)
-------
Do you really think you have a chance against us, Mister Cowboy?

Posted by: Hans "Deep State" Gruber at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (Uhu8A)

110 So now everyone's in the pool.

The easy remedy would be for SCOTUS to say "let the house of reps vote"

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (ZR7kf)

111 I will have my time in the sun...

Posted by: Heels Up Harris at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (MBy9l)

112 @KatieDaviscourt 14h
The entire town of Mossyrock, WA will be defying Governor Inslee's lockdown orders. They are asking for support this Saturday at 12pm.

MOSSYROCK CITY HALL
231 E State St
Mossyrock, WA 98564

Posted by: 24hr notice at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (BBWrU)

113 Tee hee. A senior producer for The View was also relieved of her job by Disney.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (ptqGC)

114 They are **not** going to make Biden an ignominious figure. He's a Democrat. And their collective guilt all flows through the same channels.

This is coming out now so it can be brushed away later. Old news. Debunked.

Remember Tara Reade (who?)?

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (LFUkn)

115 Nah they would have kept it all buried. This is about torpedoing joe.
Posted by: Ward at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (nzKWW)

"Not that there's anything wrong with that..."

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (MkuC5)

116 87 Someone posted in an earlier thread... Joe was always supposed to step back and let the people really in charge work... but he (or more likely his people) are fighting for say.
This is Deep state reminding Joe he's not in charge here.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (+2xjH)

He named Susan Rice as head of Domestic Policy Committee...

Whatever the hell that is.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (d9rwJ)

117 From prior thread:
524
I spell it Jack Daniels

Posted by: Heart of Darkness

You spell it wrong.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (KAi1n)

118 These revelations are going to make it a lot easier for the American people to accept the sight of Donald Trump taking the oath of office again on 20 Jan 2021.

Now, all we need is for SCOTUS to do the right thing.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (6xA3t)

119 Fox is losing viewers and they have issued the command to their
"journalists" to put The Masks back on, to trick the rubes into thinking
Fox is any different than CNN.


my money's on this option. heard one of their reporters use the phrase "presumptive president-elect biden" last night.

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (v3pYe)

120 104
BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,
HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW
JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,
VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS
(asshole states)



Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)


I note Iowa still has not signed on. Libs run far too much of that state. Which is why I reside in Oklahoma.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (XxJt1)

121 By the time I finish typing this, the responses from the states of GA, PA, MI, and WI are due at the USSC.

PA has obliged.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 10, 2020 03:00 PM (w7KSn)

And kinda kills their arguments against the Kelly/Parnell case in their brief.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (946rW)

122 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BLACK WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (lg/F7)


The only thing black about her is her heart. Amazing so many people are actually calling her African American on twatter. And nobody is correcting them.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (L8ADy)

123 DC has filed on behalf of 22 blue states in opposition.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (BM2fS)

124 Yes; I agree with Tom Servo and some others. This is steps in the attempt to get rid of Joe Biden.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (WkPC9)

125 Am I the only one that thought the rabbit cop was cute in Zootopia? Better than Bugs Bunny when he dressed up

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)

126 84 60 37 Rush opining that these leaks and death by a thousand cuts of Biden now after the election is coming from the Kamala Harris crowd. He's toast ... either way.
Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (JN3C9)

They are practicing the technique on Feinstein.

Posted by: motionview at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (pYQR/)

127 w/o being a Debbie Downer here ... the investigation in Bernie Sander's wife and the collapse of the college she ran into the ground, never produced an indictment. Only a 'mistakes were made.'

iirc.

Posted by: Adriane the Do What They Wanna Do Critic ... at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (LPnfS)

128 Can you add a lesbian re-write to the script?

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (+2xjH)

Way ahead of you, partner.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (LFUkn)

129 106 Right after PA responded to Texas lawsuit PA Legislature filed an amicus brief in support of Texas lawsuit...against PA.



This is no longer a Constitutional Crisis.

This is now a Hostage Situation.



We need John McClane - Posted by Shenanigans
============================
The greatest legislative troll in US history.
Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (Pqytn)

Head spinning. Reaching for the single malt.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (MkuC5)

130 104 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS (asshole states)
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)

this is why I never trusted the House to vote along party lines for Trump. Plus, Wyoming belongs to the Cheneys.
Sure looks like lines in the sand are being drawn

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (prPBq)

131 People keep saying Cameltoe is gonna take over.

What if Joe refuses to step aside?

Whatcha gonna do about, dimocrap scum?

Let me give you a hint...... You're gonna suck on it while he takes the Country and (hopefuly) the dimocrap scum party down with him.

If a sitting president doesn't want to step aside, you can't make him. Impeachment aside, you just simply can't.

I predict we're stuck with Joe until at least 2023, at which time there might be enough Republicans in Congress to Impeach him. Hopefully (don't count on it)

Even then, I don't think so. If he don't wanna go, nothing on this Earth can make him besides an impeachment. And I don't think scum of the Earth dimocrap filth will join in an impeachment.

Posted by: Uncle Rick at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (48/MM)

Posted by: Senators Perdue and Loeffler(R) -GA at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (naieP)

133 Ah yes that long standing rule of forbearance.

Well except for the 2016 campaign when comey was forebearing all over Hillarys server and trumps nuts nonstop

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (UPoLF)

134 > Right after PA responded to Texas lawsuit PA Legislature filed an amicus brief in support of Texas lawsuit...against PA.

I don't suppose there's any way to promote Pennsylvania to the primary plaintiff instead of Texas?

Because Pennsylvania v. Pennsylvania would be an awesome case name.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (7Kh21)

135 "Motion of Certain Select Pennsylvania State Senators for leave to file amicus brief submitted."

Document:

https://tinyurl.com/PA-Senators-Ami
Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (BM2fS)

are they siding with PA or with Texas?

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (nUhF0)

136 The entire town of Mossyrock, WA will be defying Governor Inslee's lockdown orders. They are asking for support this Saturday at 12pm.


-

I suspect that's how gun control works.

Lock us up. Go ahead. We can't pay the bail and demand a jail cell and a trial.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (FY89y)

137 Bill Clinton is every bit as black as Kamala Harris.


Possibly blacker.

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (YzTaW)

138 If it gets right down to it - I'd MUCH rather watch Biden rattle on for 10 minutes than Kabala scold us for 30, in between cackles. Joe is at least entertaining.
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:02 PM (L8ADy)


Except for Gaylord being a foppish whistledick, there is nothing worse than watching a dumb see you next Tuesday like Kabbalah being a giggling retard.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (y7DUB)

139 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,
HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW
JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,
VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS
(asshole states)
---------------------------

Defendants in what? Some phony thing that is not even news, doesn't matter and can't be talked about?

That's weird.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (LFUkn)

140 I guess we'll shortly find out if Amy Coney Barrett told the truth or is a liar when she pledged almighty fealty to the Constitution.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (H8QX8)

141 I note Iowa still has not signed on. Libs run far too much of that state. Which is why I reside in Oklahoma.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (XxJt1)

Reynolds has been.... OK at best. Nothing spectacular.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (XeEyo)

142 A day late and a dollar short ... Faux News. Newsmax needs to get a little better but I'm sure millions more viewers will bring the revenue to do it.

Posted by: leber at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (2ke6i)

143 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,

HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW

JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,

VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS

(asshole states)






Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)

I note Iowa still has not signed on. Libs run far too much of that state. Which is why I reside in Oklahoma.


Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (XxJt1)

Hopefully Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia will be pulling their names of the Amici list soon because they will be defendants.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (946rW)

144 Wait till the LIVs find out Kamel Toe is the descendant of Jamaican slave owners.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (ptqGC)

145 @johnrobertsFox


Posing this question: If @Twitter and @Facebook censor a news
story that ultimately turns out to be true, what does that say about the
role of big tech in our democracy?



It's a Republic you cucked-out, China-owned, traitorous whore.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (naieP)

146 It raining clown wigs with a 90% chance of squirting flowers to follow.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (prPBq)

147 Trump=big orange bad businessman and HONEST


Biden=frail politician and DISHONEST

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (GIeIM)

148 126 Am I the only one that thought the rabbit cop was cute in Zootopia? Better than Bugs Bunny when he dressed up
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)

==========

Now that movie was a mess.

Cute in a "don't think about it" sort of way. But the second you consider any implication of any of it, starting with the song "Try Everything", it becomes icky and often confused.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (NWM+b)

149

@KatieDaviscourt 14h
The entire town of Mossyrock, WA will be defying Governor Inslee's lockdown orders. They are asking for support this Saturday at 12pm.

MOSSYROCK CITY HALL
231 E State St
Mossyrock, WA 98564
Posted by: 24hr notice at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (BBWrU)

Someone should take his drool cup and dump it on his head.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (lg/F7)

150 Hec, they can't count votes in a reasonable amout of time. Why would we even hope they could show up with responses before SCOTUS in time.

Jackass incompetence writ large.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (MkuC5)

151 Yes; I agree with Tom Servo and some others. This is steps in the attempt to get rid of Joe Biden.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (WkPC9)


And basically, they don't want to lose face that they ran a man who is obviously suffering from dementia? Seriously, they could be done with him in a matter of minutes. I guess this way, they can also say "See? We're looking out for you! Law and order and shit!"

Fuckers.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (L8ADy)

152 In the great scheme of things I think this sudden publicity and press about Hunter's laptop, and Swalwell, are bright, shiny, salacious stories to distract the rubes from the fact that our election is being stolen and our Republic is in Constitutional crisis.

But otherwise I'm chill.

Posted by: Zek at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (r4fw8)

153 How is D.C. filing anything? They have no electors in the college the last time I looked.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (XeEyo)

154 Subsidy is the State Capitol of Iowa, isn't it?

Posted by: garrett at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (YzTaW)

155 I voted in the election but I have no way of knowing if my vote was even counted. It's all vote by mail. I used a drop box but it still could have been discarded.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (JKNZq)

156
All democrat families are crime families.

All of them.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (Zz0t1)

-------

Honestly, I've been casting around for years for a way to describe the dynamic between Dems & the GOP for years. A lot of people default to "Kabuki theater" or "pro-wrestling" or "the Harlem Globetrotters," and all those are pretty good. But not quite right.

Then, a couple months ago, it hit me - they're most like "the Commission." People who recognize that the others are too powerful to simply dismiss or kill, so they join forces.

And the Commission managed to run shit for half a century. The guy at the head of the table might change, but the interests sitting around it never did. And even the individuals didn't, except when extenuating circumstances or the march of time demanded it.

The people who served each of those bosses believed that their family meant something; they'd steal and die for it, after all.

But the only family that mattered sat around that table at the big meetings in NY and Vegas and Miami and Chicago and pushed them all around like pieces on a board, for the benefit of "their thing."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (BvLWD)

157 Oh no, not D.C. and the Virgin Islands.

If standing is a serious issue, why should anyone be listening to those assholes?

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (H5knJ)

158 118
From prior thread:
524

I spell it Jack Daniels



Posted by: Heart of Darkness

You spell it wrong.


Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (KAi1n)


So did I. I thought this was Jameson's. Turns out it's Two Gingers...the "economical" brand I foist off on the Morons at the TXMoMe.
Still, it's not bad. *purs four

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (XxJt1)

159 109 And this is particularly sleazy. Rural medical care is often quite limited in this country, and rural hospitals struggle mightily under the burden of regulation and insurance. Fleecing already-marginal players is really shitty. This is like the embezzlement equivalent of fleecing little old ladies out of their pensions.

Those Bidens. What a family.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (hYcqw)

"Man, you should see the money we made fleecing that rural hospital." - James

"Listen fat, the real money is in 'funding' cancer research." Joe

Posted by: Grip the Weasel at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (KbCG3)

160 Since I think John Brennan was the actual president of the US during Sparky's reign, is it too much to think he is running this entire shit show?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (T1Dne)

161 So now everyone's in the pool.

The easy remedy would be for SCOTUS to say "let the house of reps vote"

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (ZR7kf)


The line has been drawn

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (sfhL4)

162 I live in an asshole state.

Sad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (hYcqw)

163 All these leaks now are probably going to make Biden concede before any family members get indicted. He knows who is coordinating the leaks, and isn't loyal enough to the shadow government to let them win.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (kA3Cp)

164 Willowed, concerning Chinese involvement in the election:

604 Let me guess. The Chinese did this, and they also stole AZ, PA, MI, MN, WI and NV.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 02:53 PM (BM2fS)


Considering they already hoisted all the relevant info to U.S. security clearance holders via the OPM hack, this wouldn't surprise me in the least.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (ZSK0i)

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (ZSK0i)

165 Cute in a "don't think about it" sort of way. But the second you consider any implication of any of it, starting with the song "Try Everything", it becomes icky and often confused.

Yeah its really disturbing on every level if you think about it at all. Very creepy and nasty and dude, what were you thinking.

But if you just watch on a surface level its kinda cute and fun.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (KZzsI)

166 YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH A BLACK WOMAN BEING PRESIDENT!!!

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 02:58 PM (lg/F7)

The only thing black about her is her heart. Amazing so many people are actually calling her African American on twatter. And nobody is correcting them.
Posted by: clutch cargo


Jamaican Dot.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (fu1JC)

167 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,
HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW
JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,
VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS
(asshole states)
---------------------------

Anyone else find it funny that folks would line up to be defendants? Just amusing to me... Hey don't forget to sue me!

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (+2xjH)

168 144 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,

HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW

JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,

VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS

(asshole states)






Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)

I note Iowa still has not signed on. Libs run far too much of that state. Which is why I reside in Oklahoma.


Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (XxJt1)

Hopefully Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia will be pulling their names of the Amici list soon because they will be defendants.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (946rW)

Strange New Hampshire isn't in there. must be that +46 R gain in the state legislature in 2020 election.

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (prPBq)

169 In real terms the states and territories supporting PA are the Nazis in the caste, on the other side are Lee Marvin and Jim Brown.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (4NtsG)

170 > What if Joe refuses to step aside?


That's what the 25th Amendment is for.

I can't imagine it would be too difficult to prove that Dopey Joe is incompetent, assuming that they actually wanted to do it rather than covering up for him.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (7Kh21)

171 Dec 07 2020 Motion for leave to file a bill of complaint filed.
Dec 07 2020 Motion to expedite filed by plaintiff Texas.
Dec 07 2020 Motion for preliminary injunction and temporary restraining order or, alternatively, for stay and administrative stay filed by plaintiff Texas.
Dec 08 2020 Response to the motion for leave to file a bill of complaint and to the motion for a preliminary injunction and temporary restraining order or, alternatively, for stay and administrative stay requested, due Thursday, December 10, by 3 pm.
Dec 09 2020 Motion to intervene filed by Donald J. Trump, President of the United States.
Dec 09 2020 Brief amicus curiae of State of Missouri filed.
Dec 09 2020 Motion of Carter Phillips, et al. for leave to file amicus brief submitted.
Dec 09 2020 Amicus brief of Constitutional Attorneys submitted.
Dec 09 2020 Motion of State of Arizona and Mark Brnovich, Arizona Attorney General for leave to file amicus brief submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Motion of State of Ohio for leave to file amicus brief not accepted for filing. (December 10, 2020) (corrected motion electronically filed)
Dec 10 2020 Motion to Intervene and Proposed Bill of Complaint in Intervention of State of Missouri submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Motion of State of Ohio for leave to file amicus brief submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Response of Commonwealth of Pennsylvania to motion submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Motion for Leave to File Brief as Amicus Curiae and Brief for Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly. as Amicus Curiae in Support of Plaintiff/Defendants of Members of the Pennsylvania General Assembly submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Motion of Certain Select Pennsylvania State Senators for leave to file amicus brief submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Motion of District of Columbia on behalf of 22 States and Territories for leave to file amicus brief submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Motion of Christian Family Coalition for leave to file amicus brief submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Brief of State of Michigan in opposition submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Amicus brief of Bryan Cutler Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and Kerry Benninghoff Majority Leader of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives submitted.
Dec 10 2020 Brief of State of Georgia in opposition submitted.
Dec 10 2020 For Leave to File Complaint-in-Intervention of Ron Heuer, et al. submitted.

https://tinyurl.com/y33jy2df

Posted by: Current SCOTUS action at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (BBWrU)

172 146
We all know religion is the solution, correct?


Posted by: Moon Bark at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (b3gCG)


No, we don't, Moon Bark. Some of us struggle mightly with that.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (XxJt1)

173
126 Am I the only one that thought the rabbit cop was cute in Zootopia? Better than Bugs Bunny when he dressed up

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)

===============================
The only cute Rabbit I recall in film is Jessica Rabbit, although "cute" might be somewhat subjective.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (Pqytn)

174 Would it not be truly delicious, as in liberal-tears sprinkled on salted flaming pineapple delicious, if a number of legislatures or the US Senate/House refused to seat electors because of this?

I'm just spitballing here, but I could see the PA & GA legislatures using these as CYA when the Supreme Court kicks the cases back to the 4 states which is what I expect as a most likely we-win scenario. Best case in the realm of possibility IMO is the USSC throws their electors out and punts to the House/Senate.

Related manic-thought, odds that Joe Biden is persuaded to "withdraw" before the US Congress votes in January to accept electors?

And am I the only one that had to go punch inanimate things after watching the video of the Chinese professor laying out how they've been buying US politicians for 40 years? For those that haven't seen it, here's a longer version that news.com.au posted yesterday: https://tinyurl.com/y35szef5

I'm told there is 5+ minute version wandering around out there, but haven't found it yet.

Posted by: Cold Rage Dominion, Presidente Grande Elect - F.U.WAR at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (OXSar)

175

Which of these is most likely to be true?

1, even this stupid cvck gets it.

2, this stupid cvck does not in fact get it, but Fox is losing viewers
and they have issued the command to their "journalists" to put The Masks
back on, to trick the rubes into thinking Fox is any different than
CNN.


==================


I choose option 3, which is very straightforward: "He is just such a stupid cuck"

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (EIK47)

176 my money's on this option. heard one of their reporters use the phrase "presumptive president-elect biden" last night.

Posted by: Anachronda, behind the Newsom curtain at December 10, 2020 03:04 PM (v3pYe)


Backing away ...

Presumptive President-elect, temporarily at least, just a figurehead really ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (woUN+)

177 This is an interesting one.

"Amicus brief of Bryan Cutler Speaker of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives and Kerry Benninghoff Majority Leader of the Pennsylvania House of Representatives submitted".

Document:

https://tinyurl.com/PA-House-and-Maj-Ldr

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (BM2fS)

178 167 Cute in a "don't think about it" sort of way. But the second you consider any implication of any of it, starting with the song "Try Everything", it becomes icky and often confused.

Yeah its really disturbing on every level if you think about it at all. Very creepy and nasty and dude, what were you thinking.

But if you just watch on a surface level its kinda cute and fun.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (KZzsI)

==========

Aww...the bunny wants to be police...how cute...

Wait...the herbivores have successfully made the carnivores reject their nature and that's a good thing?

Oh...wait...Jason Reitman said something quippy to that tiny animal that looks like the godfather! D'aw....

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (NWM+b)

179 Obama is mostly not black. And Harris is less black than him.

Posted by: Axeman at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (Eicbe)

180 I live in an asshole state.



Sad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (hYcqw)


Same here and one of the leading states of political corruption so I can see why they're against any investigation into it.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (XbMF/)

181 165
All these leaks now are probably going to make Biden concede before any
family members get indicted. He knows who is coordinating the leaks,
and isn't loyal enough to the shadow government to let them win.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (kA3Cp)

demorats never concede. See: VA gov and Lt Gov, MN AG, so many others on down the line. The only one who did recently is Al Franken and he said he regrets it and should never have stepped down.
Only Republicucks concede.

Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (DJFLF)

182 Presumptive President-elect, temporarily at least, just a figurehead really ...

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (woUN+)


An idea, akshully.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (ptqGC)

183 https://twitter.com/beverlynation/
status/1336502045549924352

Brandy Vaughan found dead this morning by her 10 yr old child. She was a former Merck pharmaceutical employee turned whistleblower. She started the non profit group Learn the Risk to expose the Big Pharma drug cartel. she wrote she would never take her own life. #LearnTheRisk

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (prPBq)

184 Rush was just talking how now the Hunter story is coming out on the Democrats Propaganda Ministry and the swing to drive Sundowner out of the Presidency so Kommie Harris will take over to run the Socialists

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (9sWOw)

185 Now that movie was a mess.

Cute in a "don't think about it" sort of way. But the second you consider any implication of any of it, starting with the song "Try Everything", it becomes icky and often confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (NWM+b)
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Kinda the same thing with "Cars". Think too much about it and it becomes a horror movie.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (Uhu8A)

186 And now PA state Senators are asking leave to file as Amici in support of no party but actually arguing for Texas that their authority was usurped by the Pa Supreme Court and the SoS (who, BTW, looks like a Bond villain).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (946rW)

187 162 Since I think John Brennan was the actual president of the US during Sparky's reign, is it too much to think he is running this entire shit show?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (T1Dne)

Am I wrong to see him as a complete imbicile that likey just has dirt on all the right people?
I don't see him running shit.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (+2xjH)

188

I just find all this attacking of the Biden's personal life is just so racist.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (lg/F7)

189 Its amazing how all these stories damaging to the Dem always come outb after the election.

Posted by: Iblis at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (abOpZ)

190 Wait till the LIVs find out Kamel Toe is the descendant of Jamaican slave owners.

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (ptqGC)

They still don't know that Barry claimed to have been born in Kenya so I wouldn't hold my breath.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (LFUkn)

191 I prefer boxer- to amicus briefs.

Posted by: Axeman at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (Eicbe)

192 Dunham will come.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (yQpMk)

193 this is why I never trusted the House to vote along party lines for Trump. Plus, Wyoming belongs to the Cheneys.

Sure looks like lines in the sand are being drawn
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:06 PM (prPBq)

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GOP still controls the majority of state delegations, even if Wyoming defects. North Carolina has a democrat AG but a Republican majority delegation.

If it goes to the House Trump will prevail.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (ZR7kf)

194 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS (asshole states)

***************

That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original trans-Wookie at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (xxG/v)

195 Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (prPBq)




Shades of Karen Silkwood.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (XxJt1)

196 187 Now that movie was a mess.

Cute in a "don't think about it" sort of way. But the second you consider any implication of any of it, starting with the song "Try Everything", it becomes icky and often confused.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (NWM+b)
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Kinda the same thing with "Cars". Think too much about it and it becomes a horror movie.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (Uhu8A)

=========

Well, in Cars it's limited to how the world came about (Terminator sequel set 5,000 years later is my bet).

But at least the story itself doesn't carry really weird implications about how people should behave.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (NWM+b)

197 I note Iowa still has not signed on. Libs run far too much of that state. Which is why I reside in Oklahoma.


Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (XxJt1)

Hopefully Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia will be pulling their names of the Amici list soon because they will be defendants.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (946rW)


I'm thinking about urging Newsom to have California join the Texas suit, just to piss him off.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (woUN+)

198 Would it not be truly delicious, as in liberal-tears sprinkled on salted flaming pineapple delicious, if a number of legislatures or the US Senate/House refused to seat electors because of this? ...
Posted by: Cold Rage Dominion, Presidente Grande Elect - F.U.WAR at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (OXSar)
+++++++++++++
I think this is actually the "right" answer to this problem. In these states, Trump probably won - but the overall point is that their elections were so compromised that they can't be fixed. Their elections were irredeemable. If that is the case, then you can make the assumption Trump won (probably safe) or you can say that you don't know and can't find out and so abstain (not send electors).

That is probably the right answer. The contested states should just not send electors at all. Then neither candidate hits the threshold and it goes to House for the decision.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (hYcqw)

199 Has anyone asked reporter John Roberts whether he or Supreme Court Justice John Roberts were the one mentioned in the flight logs to Pedo Island?

Posted by: Obligatory at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (qlFIA)

200 Your China's federal gubmint atwerk.*

*Definition for progressives: this means the Deep State is shaking its ass in your face.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #BidenCheated at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (HaL55)

201 200 Would it not be truly delicious, as in liberal-tears sprinkled on salted flaming pineapple delicious, if a number of legislatures or the US Senate/House refused to seat electors because of this? ...
Posted by: Cold Rage Dominion, Presidente Grande Elect - F.U.WAR at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (OXSar)
+++++++++++++
I think this is actually the "right" answer to this problem. In these states, Trump probably won - but the overall point is that their elections were so compromised that they can't be fixed. Their elections were irredeemable. If that is the case, then you can make the assumption Trump won (probably safe) or you can say that you don't know and can't find out and so abstain (not send electors).

That is probably the right answer. The contested states should just not send electors at all. Then neither candidate hits the threshold and it goes to House for the decision.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (hYcqw)

==========

I also think it would be the most hilarious answer.

"Oh, you cheated like there was no tomorrow? Well, you get no say in this at all."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (NWM+b)

202 Dammit, who drank no. 4? and why do they make these glasses so small?

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (XxJt1)

203 Gotta run to a compounding pharmacy to pick up another med for sick kitten.

Poor little guy has had two vet trips in two days. He does seem to feel better today. I haven't shown my husband the vet bills yet...

Posted by: President-Elect Jane D'oh at December 10, 2020 03:14 PM (ptqGC)

204 165 All these leaks now are probably going to make Biden concede before any family members get indicted. He knows who is coordinating the leaks, and isn't loyal enough to the shadow government to let them win.
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I really don't think Biden will do this. His only claim to safety is to remain president. You saw what he did to his son's for money. Imagine what he would do for power.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:14 PM (T1Dne)

205 The FBI is suddenly interested in the crimes of the Biden family. Surely they are doing their patriotic duty of exposing all possible blackmail material so Biden can rule unencumbered by his past.
FBI agents would quit in protest if blackmail material was left unexposed because, patriots.

Posted by: Nothing But Spitballs at December 10, 2020 03:14 PM (YwPJG)

206 Elizabeth Harrington needs to go claim Christiane Amanpour as a trophy of war. Did you guys see the original "interview" on CNN? Amanpour does the whole, "I'm exhausted at how partisan and crackpot you're being right now" act while Harrington tries to get Amanpour to act like a journalist and acknowledge HB's laptop is genuine and contains evidence of criminal acts implicating both HB and JB.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 10, 2020 03:14 PM (YYlyE)

207 Obama is mostly not black. And Harris is less black than him.




I'm old enough to remember when Kamala was our first Indo-American Senator.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at December 10, 2020 03:14 PM (yQpMk)

208 The only reason these stories are being reported on after over a month of media silence on everything concerning the election is because Joe is apparently getting frisky and looking forward to actually playing President and no longer content to hide in the White House basement and only trot out to say "masks good!" once a week.

They are worried that he won't accept his role as a puppet, want him out fast before he can create real trouble.

Posted by: numbad at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (gJAok)

209 Posted by: Cold Rage Dominion, Presidente Grande Elect - F.U.WAR at December 10, 2020 03:10 PM (OXSar)

In matters between the States, the Supremes are the ONLY Court that can preside.

In other words, they will actually have to have a trial on the merits of the case, not their usual oversight.

They can't kick it back to the States.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (d9rwJ)

210 37 Rush opining that these leaks and death by a thousand cuts of Biden now after the election is coming from the Kamala Harris crowd.

That's what I agreed with yesterday. Also to distract from Trump / SCOTUS, but one month was probably the timeline to start the drip in any case.

Posted by: But there's other (non-Biden) China leaks too at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (BBWrU)

211 oh dear
doggeh refused to poop all day and is instead killing me with poison gas

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (nUhF0)

212 Dammit, who drank no. 4? and why do they make these glasses so small?
Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (XxJt1)
++++++++++
You're making a rookie mistake, creeper.

Use a 16 oz. water glass and keep it topped off. In this way, you're always on your first drink!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (hYcqw)

213 'You don't indict candidates or perhaps someone that's sufficiently
close to a candidate, that it's essentially the same, you know, within a
certain number of days before an election.'

We should perhaps ask Ted Stevens or Kurt Weldon about this Rule, but the former is deceased.

Posted by: Alec Leamas at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (ssz2a)

214 Dammit, who drank no. 4? and why do they make these glasses so small?
Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (XxJt1)
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!!!!

Posted by: 6 at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (Eicbe)

215 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS (asshole states)

***************

That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.
Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original trans-Wookie at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (xxG/v)



Do we need any more proof that the country is at war?

China: Mission Accomplished.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (sfhL4)

216 Georgia Response filed.

Document:

https://tinyurl.com/Georgia-Response

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (BM2fS)

217 That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original trans-Wookie at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (xxG/v)


Ooops. I misread that as a list of states supporting Tesas. My bad.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (XxJt1)

218 Muellers Gestapo ( the FIB) are investigating so they can bury the evidence and cover it up.

Posted by: Avi at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (dHrq/)

219 cool

state vs. state

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (GIeIM)

220 >>> I note Iowa still has not signed on. Libs run far too much of that state. Which is why I reside in Oklahoma.
Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (XxJt1)

========

Rep Governor and Lt. governor. But we have a Dem AG. I guess we will be playing the role Ireland in this battle.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (o9apC)

221 How many people who think they're "getting rid of Joe" also thought he'd never win the primaries, never be nominated, never make a convention speech, never do debates, never make it to the election.......

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (LFUkn)

222 2, this stupid cvck does not in fact get it, but Fox is losing viewers and they have issued the command to their "journalists" to put The Masks back on, to trick the rubes into thinking Fox is any different than CNN.

This.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (sfhL4)

223 We offered the entire Biden family a Global Settlement of all charges. They have agreed never to break the law ever again, scouts honor, and to undergo "Honesty Training" , a special training course the Bureau is running for the Bidens. All of them will attend.

Posted by: FBI Directer Christopher Wray at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (EIK47)

224 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE,
GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA,
NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI,
VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF
DEFENDENTS (asshole states)



***************



That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original trans-Wookie at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (xxG/v)

Being on this list should get their electors tossed too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (946rW)

225 Rush was just talking how now the Hunter story is coming out on the Democrats Propaganda Ministry and the swing to drive Sundowner out of the Presidency so Kommie Harris will take over to run the Socialists
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (9sWOw)


Like I said in the other thread: it sounds like Joe may be fading faster than they'd hoped. If they have to pull the 25th Amendment card too early, it will be obvious that they hid his decline from the public, and that will piss off a number of voters. They need him functional for six to nine months before he suddenly resigns due to health issues. I could see the Hunter stuff as a way of forcing him out before then.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (jOcSX)

226 So if SCOTUS defends the constitution and the legislatures in those states do the right thing does Joe die the next day? Giving the news stories the chance to talk about how this awful stress and disappoint killed the poor old man rather than covering the facts that show the fraud?

If the steal is allowed to stand I'm assuming they need him to be sworn in before he can have an *unexpected* massive stroke and Harris takes over.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (Aashi)

227 In these states, Trump probably won - but the overall point is that
their elections were so compromised that they can't be fixed.
***

Generally the way the courts have handled this sort of case is to say, "ok I see the fraud but we don't *know* which candidates those fake votes were for" which....just rewards fraud.

The most honest answer to this is to straight up subtract every fraudulent vote from every democrat running for office in that locale. I guarantee the next election would have zero fraud. It won't happen but it would immediately fix things.




Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (qlFIA)

228 Wisconsin Response filed.

Document:

https://tinyurl.com/Wisconsin-Response


All four Defendants have filed their responses.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (BM2fS)

229 Then neither candidate hits the threshold and it goes to House for the decision.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:13 PM (hYcqw)

Except the Constitution says Majority of the Electors SEATED, not the number of Electors possible.

If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (d9rwJ)

230 Hunter and Joe are one of the main gateways to all the Democrat corruption. NOTHING will happen to them.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (LFUkn)

231 Use a 16 oz. water glass and keep it topped off. In this way, you're always on your first drink!

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (hYcqw)


But none of the big ones have pretty carving on the sides like these shit glasses. These are much classier.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (XxJt1)

232 Since I think John Brennan was the actual president of the US during Sparky's reign, is it too much to think he is running this entire shit show?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (T1Dne)


I believe it was Valerie Jarrett and she too is behind much of this.

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (8k7U7)

233 228 So if SCOTUS defends the constitution and the legislatures in those states do the right thing does Joe die the next day? Giving the news stories the chance to talk about how this awful stress and disappoint killed the poor old man rather than covering the facts that show the fraud?

If the steal is allowed to stand I'm assuming they need him to be sworn in before he can have an *unexpected* massive stroke and Harris takes over.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (Aashi)

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I do wonder what Kamala would do in terms of her VP is Biden died or was removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)

234 All four Defendants have filed their responses.
Posted by: Sharkman

what do they say, more or less?

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (nUhF0)

235 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS (asshole states)
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)


Guam.

Posted by: hogmartin at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (t+qrx)

236 If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (d9rwJ)

And wouldn't that be something.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (LFUkn)

237

Wait a second, Hunter Biden has tax problems? What, why wasn't this covered!

- Media

Member when that Asshole Chris Wallace kinda didn't want any discussion about Bunter Hiden???

yeah...

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (lg/F7)

238 doggeh refused to poop all day and is instead killing me with poison gas
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (nUhF0)


Did you start bland diet? It's amazing how delicate dog's systems can be, considering they can eat cat shit for dessert. But any dietary change usually causes problems for at least 24 hours.

I found with all my pooches the bland diet usually got things moving along pretty quickly, stopped the vomiting and grass eating almost immediately.

Good thing you've got your mask, huh?

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (L8ADy)

239

Biden probably does not remember he agreed to step down.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (sfhL4)

240 If nominated I will not run and, if elected, I will not serve. But if Georgia is acting up, I can be persuaded.

Posted by: William Tecumseh Sherman at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (EIK47)

241 We should perhaps ask Ted Stevens or Kurt Weldon about this Rule, but the former is deceased.
Posted by: Alec Leamas at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (ssz2a)

or Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump.

Comey was balls deep in both of their stuff a mere days before the election.

This was clearly some shit Barr made up on the fly using a lawerly sounding word "forbearance" to explain why the FBI looked the other way on the Hunter Biden stuff before the election.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (UPoLF)

242 225 We offered the entire Biden family a Global Settlement of all charges. They have agreed never to break the law ever again, scouts honor, and to undergo "Honesty Training" , a special training course the Bureau is running for the Bidens. All of them will attend.
Posted by: FBI Directer Christopher Wray at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (EIK47)

It will be taught by James Comey.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (d9rwJ)

243 NC went for Trump. The state senate and the general assembly are solid Republican.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (Pqytn)

244 Rush was just talking how now the Hunter story is coming out on the Democrats Propaganda Ministry and the swing to drive Sundowner out of the Presidency so Kommie Harris will take over to run the Socialists

Maybe. Or its just a way for the press to plausibly claim they covered this and when the case is dismissed or dropped claim later "well the DOJ looked into that and it wasn't illegal".

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (KZzsI)

245 169 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,
HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW
JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,
VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS

One of these things is not like the others. Trump won NC, so why is my state spending even a penny in support of another state that cheated to give their results to Biden? More proof that Soros' SoS project was money well spent. Relatedly, NC was one of the states targeted by Mark Elias to change the election laws this year.

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (qe5CM)

246 I do wonder what Kamala would do in terms of her VP is Biden died or was removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)

The person is already chosen. Maybe butt judge.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (LFUkn)

247 189 162 Since I think John Brennan was the actual president of the US during Sparky's reign, is it too much to think he is running this entire shit show?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (T1Dne)

Am I wrong to see him as a complete imbicile that likey just has dirt on all the right people?
I don't see him running shit.
---------------------------
I think Brennan is smart. He didn't get to the top of the CIA by being dumb. Then in came Obama, a scion of two generations of true believing CIA and State Department Operatives and Brennan knew exactly how to fluff him. Puppet meets Master Puppeteer.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (T1Dne)

248 Y'all should read the PA Legislature's application. It's not long and is easy to read. BTW, there's a typo on the cover page. Ship happens when your typing stuff up on thefly.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (KAi1n)

249 Just for the record, there is a John Roberts who is not a POS. He's a warship historian (and cancer survivor.)

Posted by: Eeyore at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (7X3UV)

250 Hi there fellow conservative patriot. I too like driving F160 trucks and shooting mean looking loud guns. Just like you. Oh and how about those college football players from the ESC? Wow can they play or what? Let us hoist a bottle of domestic beer in celebration of freedoms and such.
- Fox News Hosts

Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (22mNy)

251 One of these things is not like the others. Trump won NC, so why is my state spending even a penny in support of another state that cheated to give their results to Biden?
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You have a Dem Governor. Thats how.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (T1Dne)

252 I do wonder what Kamala would do in terms of her VP is Biden died or was removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)


Why does the new Janitor look like Hillary?

Posted by: Kamala at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (L8ADy)

253 Except the Constitution says Majority of the Electors SEATED, not the number of Electors possible.

If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (d9rwJ)
++++++++++++++
That's a nuance, yeah. Hmmm. Either way, I'm cool with it.

So to get a true abstention while maintaining count, the state would have to seat electors and instruct them not to vote, or to vote for Santa Claus or something?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (hYcqw)

254 Also to distract from Trump / SCOTUS, but one month was probably the timeline to start the drip in any case.
Posted by: But there's other (non-Biden) China leaks too at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (BBWrU)

SCOTUS judge to another SCOTUS judge: "So the Democrats are leaking the Biden Crime Syndicate thing and arguing he won all these freely placed votes at the same time - and that the world will end if he doesn't take office?"

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (MkuC5)

255 249 I do wonder what Kamala would do in terms of her VP is Biden died or was removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)

The person is already chosen. Maybe butt judge.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (LFUkn)

=========

I'm sure, but it doesn't change the fact that the Senate needs to approve.

Kamala could just go until 2024 without a VP and then nominate whomever she wants without having to subject the nominee to TV time with Ted Cruz asking pointed questions.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (NWM+b)

256 Wait...the herbivores have successfully made the carnivores reject their nature and that's a good thing?

Yes? I mean, as a Christian I'm pretty inspired by "The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them." promise in the Bible.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (YYlyE)

257 Now the election is over, prosecutors in Delaware, the IRS Criminal Investigation agency and the FBI, have stepped up their probe by issuing subpoenas and seeking interviews.

Late to the party, and maybe this point has been raised, but...

WHY THE EVER-LOVING FLIPPITY-FUCK DIDN'T THIS COME OUT *BEFORE* THE FRAUDENLENT ELECTION ?!?

Sorry for shouting, but ffs

Posted by: Hands - it aint over at December 10, 2020 03:20 PM (786Ro)

258 > The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.


Good question. If the GOP held the House and Senate, they'd definitely refuse to fill it (because then it automatically devolves to the Speaker of the House).

Whether they'd agree to let someone else through rather than be facing President Pelosi is a good question.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:20 PM (7Kh21)

259 What if Fox censors a news story that turns out to be true? What does that tell us about Paul Ryan and the younger Murdoches role in our democracy?

Posted by: All Just Part of the Plan at December 10, 2020 03:20 PM (dYe5S)

260 239 If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (d9rwJ)

I'd be very surprised if they did not send electors.

Posted by: clutch at December 10, 2020 03:20 PM (9UmRs)

261 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE, GUAM,
HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA, NEVADA, NEW
JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI, VERMONT,
VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF DEFENDENTS
(asshole states)



***************



That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.
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Any guesses how many of those states are in bed with Dominion?

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2020 03:20 PM (kOpft)

262 256 Except the Constitution says Majority of the Electors SEATED, not the number of Electors possible.

If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (d9rwJ)

No chairs for the electors from CA!

Profit.

Posted by: FBI at December 10, 2020 03:20 PM (xfb67)

263 I do wonder what Kamala would do in terms of her VP is Biden died or was removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)


If Mitch has any balls, he'd tell her that she's not going to get a VP unless she accepts whomever the GOP chooses for the position. It would kill the ability of Romney or Collins to play spoiler, as well as fire up the base.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (jOcSX)

264 Like I said in the other thread: it sounds like Joe may be fading faster than they'd hoped. If they have to pull the 25th Amendment card too early, it will be obvious that they hid his decline from the public, and that will piss off a number of voters. They need him functional for six to nine months before he suddenly resigns due to health issues. I could see the Hunter stuff as a way of forcing him out before then.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (jOcSX)

Yeah, they're definitely up to something.

I guess time will tell.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (UPoLF)

265 NC went for Trump. The state senate and the general assembly are solid Republican.


Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (Pqytn)

Get on the horn with your state legislators then and demand that they file a brief supporting Texas since your AG is apparently a tool.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (946rW)

266 The person is already chosen. Maybe butt judge.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (LFUkn)

That's Gigmybooti to you, sir.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (MkuC5)

267 Worthless OH AG filed amicus brief "in support of neither" and then claims impossible for SC to intervene. While y'all impeach DeWine would you throw out Yost, too.

Posted by: EveR at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (DsGxB)

268 ...and by 'investigate' we just mean we want to find all the best deals people are getting.

Posted by: FBI at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (ZS2+d)

269 Rush was just talking how now the Hunter story is coming out on the Democrats Propaganda Ministry and the swing to drive Sundowner out of the Presidency so Kommie Harris will take over to run the Socialists
Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (9sWOw)

Like I said in the other thread: it sounds like Joe may be fading faster than they'd hoped. If they have to pull the 25th Amendment card too early, it will be obvious that they hid his decline from the public, and that will piss off a number of voters. They need him functional for six to nine months before he suddenly resigns due to health issues. I could see the Hunter stuff as a way of forcing him out before then.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (jOcSX)


I was thinking the same. Watching the little snippets we are allowed to see of Biden, he can barely walk anymore. And he can barely speak coherently. He's going down fast, and it's great Trump did no concede because that is one of a thousand reasons they wanted him to concede right away. Hide Biden's decline.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (sfhL4)

270 246
NC went for Trump. The state senate and the general assembly are solid Republican.


Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (Pqytn)

I'm thinking the AG is a 'rat

Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (DJFLF)

271 Fuck these animals.


That's hot !

Posted by: Beto ! at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (786Ro)

272 267 I do wonder what Kamala would do in terms of her VP is Biden died or was removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)


If Mitch has any balls, he'd tell her that she's not going to get a VP unless she accepts whomever the GOP chooses for the position. It would kill the ability of Romney or Collins to play spoiler, as well as fire up the base.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (jOcSX)

===========

"We'll give you your pick if you promise to send us some moderate judges for the judiciary sometime at some point."
-Probably

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (NWM+b)

273 BTW, there's a typo on the cover page. Ship happens when your typing stuff up on thefly.

Whelp, that's that. Briefs are like internet comments, a single typo invalidates the whole thing. Too bad. A shame really.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (H5knJ)

274 Hi there fellow conservative patriot. I too like driving F160 trucks and shooting mean looking loud guns. Just like you. Oh and how about those college football players from the ESC? Wow can they play or what? Let us hoist a bottle of domestic beer in celebration of freedoms and such.
- Fox News Hosts
Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (22mNy)


Why do I see them ordering 3 beers, only holding up their thumb and first 2 fingers?

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (L8ADy)

275 a coup within a coup

Posted by: bat nationalist

a deuce coup?
Posted by: FBI


yeah, but not a little one ...

Posted by: Adriane the Do What They Wanna Do Critic ... at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (LPnfS)

276 247 Rush was just talking how now the Hunter story is coming out on the Democrats Propaganda Ministry and the swing to drive Sundowner out of the Presidency so Kommie Harris will take over to run the Socialists

Maybe. Or its just a way for the press to plausibly claim they covered this and when the case is dismissed or dropped claim later "well the DOJ looked into that and it wasn't illegal".
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Or its Dem Housecleaning - see Feinstein, Swalwell, and Pelosi and players to be named later. Fun times.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (T1Dne)

277 Forbearance.

Because electing criminals is the right thing to do.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (xfb67)

278 Kamala could just go until 2024 without a VP and then nominate whomever she wants without having to subject the nominee to TV time with Ted Cruz asking pointed questions.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (NWM+b)

___

Does a candidate legally/constitutionally have to have a running mate?

Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (22mNy)

279 The legislatures in the four states should simply announce that they are giving their votes to Jorgenson. That would ensure that they are seated, deny any candidate a majority, and allow SCOTUS to say, "The issue has been resolved."

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (jOcSX)

280
I live in an asshole state.



Sad.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 10, 2020 03:09 PM (hYcqw)

I live in a serious asshole state.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (9Om/r)

281

The rats in GA are going after those that were outspoken and being honest in other counties.

These GA "officials" are attacking like feral animals backed into a corner. So guilty.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (sfhL4)

282 Whelp, that's that. Briefs are like internet comments, a single typo invalidates the whole thing. Too bad. A shame really.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (H5knJ)


Did somebody say briefs?

Posted by: David French at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (L8ADy)

283 BTW, further confirmation that Breitbart.com apparently intends to go the away of Fox News. On his radio show today, Dennis Prager was interviewing their senior editor Joel Pollock, who said he has no reason to believe that Biden did not win the election.

He blamed Trump for not overcoming the margin of fraud, and is apparently good with the Democrat fraud -- win or lose. He believes "taking turns" helps "keep democracy alive" or something. He's bothered more by the violence before the election than the fraud of the election -- and doesn't seem to comprehend that the former will permanently condone and enshrine the latter.

It's cucks all the way down ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (JN3C9)

284 You have a Dem Governor. Thats how.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM

He has tried to remain neutral. Has more to do with the SoS, who is also a Democrat.

Posted by: Moonbeam at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (qe5CM)

285 >Muellers Gestapo ( the FIB) are investigating so they can bury the evidence and cover it up.
Posted by: Avi at December 10, 2020 03:15 PM (dHrq/)

Oh, they would never do anything like sit on Seth Rich's laptop for four years, denying it the entire time, and then suddenly remember that they actually had it the entire time.

Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (poEUH)

286 If Trump wins it changes EVERYTHING.


So what does Biden do in that case? Presumably either leads the coup the Dems will try in response or flees the country.


I don't see this ending without some bloodshed.

If Trump wins because the SC agrees there was massive fraud a bunch of Dems and GOPers have to go to jail.

If Trump loses the Dems with arrest and Epstein him and his family.


Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (qlFIA)

287 > NC went for Trump. The state senate and the general assembly are solid Republican.


It sounds like they need to be impeaching this AG.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (7Kh21)

288 removed.

The pick has to go through the Senate, but there's no requirement that the VP spot needs to be filled.

That would be a fascinating political fight.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (NWM+b)


If Mitch has any balls, he'd tell her that she's not going to get a VP unless she accepts whomever the GOP chooses for the position. It would kill the ability of Romney or Collins to play spoiler, as well as fire up the base.
Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:21 PM (jOcSX)
------------

You're playing with fire. Next in line would be Pelosi. That's a firm no-go.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (G0vdT)

289 I assume #bidencrimefamily is not trending.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (r+sAi)

290 Forbearance is what normal people would call misfeasance.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (yQpMk)

291 Or its Dem Housecleaning - see Feinstein, Swalwell, and Pelosi and players to be named later. Fun times.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (T1Dne)


This. The activists and the old guard are at war, and things are getting froggy.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (jOcSX)

292 Remember this, the CIVIL WAR is within the Dem Party. There are at least three armies afoot. Maybe more.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (T1Dne)

293 NC went for Trump. The state senate and the general assembly are solid Republican.


Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (Pqytn)



Pull a PA.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (kvGim)

294 Wait...the herbivores have successfully made the carnivores reject their nature and that's a good thing?

Also, in the movie, the herbivores didn't *make* the carnivores reject their nature. It happened organically a long time before the movie begins, and the founding of Zootopia was one of the results of the peace between the carnivores and the herbivores.

Posted by: bonhomme at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (YYlyE)

295 Remember the Hillary Investigation where all her friends and accomplices and anyone who was in any danger of being compromised were granted blanket immunity and then that was pretty much that?

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (LFUkn)

296 I'm very confused by whatever is happening at SCOTUS

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (nUhF0)

297 You're playing with fire. Next in line would be Pelosi. That's a firm no-go.
Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (G0vdT)


Harris isn't likely to be out before 2022, and after 2022 the GOP would likely hold the House.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (jOcSX)

298 That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.

-

Yep. Look no further than NC. Trump won, Republicans down ticket won, but we somehow re-elected Lockdown Democrat Governor Cooper.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (FY89y)

299 " a big set up to get"

Delay and package everything to be buried with Joe.

Posted by: DaveA at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (FhXTo)

300 Rush was just talking how now the Hunter story is
coming out on the Democrats Propaganda Ministry and the swing to drive
Sundowner out of the Presidency so Kommie Harris will take over to run
the Socialists

Posted by: Skip at December 10, 2020 03:11 PM (9sWOw)


I'm pretty sure I've heard Rush say that Barry and his people wanted Kameltoe all along. The plan was to get him in and then get him out. Notice that the "Biden" picks look like a lot of Barry retreads.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (XbMF/)

301 I'm very confused by whatever is happening at SCOTUS

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (nUhF0)

It's like an NBA game. You only need to watch the last 45 seconds.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (LFUkn)

302 251 Y'all should read the PA Legislature's application. It's not long and is easy to read. BTW, there's a typo on the cover page. Ship happens when your typing stuff up on thefly.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (KAi1n)

Ohio had "FLEAVE" in their original version (which seems to have been rejected by the automated system anyway).

Posted by: Sidney Powell's proofreader at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (BBWrU)

303 > Does a candidate legally/constitutionally have to have a running mate?

I believe the Senate gets to pick the VP in that case.

No electoral vote for President = House picks.

No electoral vote for Vice Presiden = Senate picks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (7Kh21)

304 Ship happens when your typing stuff up on thefly.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:19 PM (KAi1n)



Tell me about it

Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin typinig on his fly at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (786Ro)

305 305 I'm very confused by whatever is happening at SCOTUS

Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (nUhF0)

It's like an NBA game. You only need to watch the last 45 seconds.
Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (LFUkn)

==========

"They're up by 10. There's no point."

----45 seconds later----

"Wait...they lost?!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (NWM+b)

306
The 60 million real votes Joe got would still be the same, tragically.
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There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report -- 15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (UDapT)

307 295 Or its Dem Housecleaning - see Feinstein, Swalwell, and Pelosi and players to be named later. Fun times.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (T1Dne)

This. The activists and the old guard are at war, and things are getting froggy.
-------------------------
Its a three-way fisting fight. Can the GloboCorp Suits keep Biden plausible or will the Maoist or Trotskeyites do them in?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (T1Dne)

308 I'm trying to think -- has there ever been a case were this many states were suing each other, filing amici briefs, etc.?

I know of a case where MA sued the EPA over global warming, but I can't really think of any cases like this.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (UPoLF)

309 There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report -- 15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (UDapT)



That sounds correct.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (ZSK0i)

310 Ohio had "FLEAVE" in their original version (which seems to have been rejected by the automated system anyway).

Posted by: Sidney Powell's proofreader at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (BBWrU)

=============================
Ohio resubmitted with correction, I think.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (Pqytn)

311 307 > Does a candidate legally/constitutionally have to have a running mate?

I believe the Senate gets to pick the VP in that case.

No electoral vote for President = House picks.

No electoral vote for Vice Presiden = Senate picks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (7Kh21)

___

The Senate only gets to vote for people who received electoral votes though. It's not like they can just pick someone at random. I'm wondering though what happens if a candidate just says nah I don't want a VP running mate, I'm good. Do they have to have one?

Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (22mNy)

312 Mitch should give Kamala Romney - they deserve each other.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (4NtsG)

313 Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:03 PM (ZR7kf)

And with that filing the battle lines are drawn.

A cursory reading of the PA, GA, MI, and WI responses show they are all going for the angle of 1: Its no one else's business how we run our elections, b: We followed all our laws and the state and district courts agree, and iii: Texas waited too long under the Doctrine of Laches.

1 is an outright lie. b: is a bald-faced lie, and iii: is a ridiculous pleading.

But I'm not sure SCOTUS will see it that way.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (N3El/)

314 Yep. Look no further than NC. Trump won, Republicans down ticket won,
but we somehow re-elected Lockdown Democrat Governor Cooper.

***

In the old days, I understand the idea of voting a split ticket. Reagan to save you from the commies and your local corrupt Dem to get your brother in law a gubmint job.

But who the hell in 2020 is voting for Trump and some Dem nutter? Or in fairness who the hell is voting for a Republican congresscritter and Biden? Do you want you socialism or not?

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (qlFIA)

315 There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report -- 15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

And, yet, that would not have altered the "outcome."

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (H5knJ)

316 312 I'm trying to think -- has there ever been a case were this many states were suing each other, filing amici briefs, etc.?

I know of a case where MA sued the EPA over global warming, but I can't really think of any cases like this.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (UPoLF)

You should probably look at the time right before the Civil War.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (xfb67)

317 There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report -- 15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

Posted by: andycanuck at December 10, 2020 03:25 PM (UDapT)

So they would have had to fake 15% more votes.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (LFUkn)

318 Biden probably does not remember he agreed to step down.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM (sfhL4)

Biden doesn't remember Biden.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (9Om/r)

319 The Senate only gets to vote for people who received electoral votes though. It's not like they can just pick someone at random. I'm wondering though what happens if a candidate just says nah I don't want a VP running mate, I'm good. Do they have to have one?
Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (22mNy)


Likely the party would run one separately.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (jOcSX)

320 If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:17 PM (d9rwJ)

I disagree with your Math.

Without Defendant States' combined 62 electoral votes, President Trump presumably has 232 electoral votes, and former Vice President Biden presumably has 244

Posted by: Straight from the mouth of Texas at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (BBWrU)

321 Guys (plural, gender-inclusive), read the friggin' applications before sounding off on what someone who didn't read the application said.

That said, what good would the Hunter/Chinese stuff getting airplay before the election have done? Think. About. It. NOW, we're at the remedy stage and it's just coming out (to the general public). Why would you have scripted it before if the Steal involves just adding enough fake votes to overcome Trump? The 3-Kinds Biden platter coming out then would be old news now.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (KAi1n)

322 Ohio had "FLEAVE" in their original version (which seems to have been rejected by the automated system anyway).

Posted by: Sidney Powell's proofreader at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM (BBWrU)



FLEAVE? Whutinhell was the correct spelling? Glavin?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (ZSK0i)

323 Well at least we have a list of the states that are fighting for election fraud. Helps in CWII.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (r+sAi)

324 any of you smart people think of a way the Ds have their own civil war rather than them causing the USA to have one?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (GIeIM)

325 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis so what the heck..what if the Trump Group already did their coup? White hats are now running the FBI and "some" of the media? Super subtle coup and now they are doing the slow, gentle crash landing for the Opposition?

Posted by: azjaeger at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (3/XaG)

326
Kamala has not even announced she is giving up her senate seat. Weird.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:01 PM (prPBq)





Which proves that even SHE doesn't believe that Biden won the election. She's hedging her bets in case the courts and state legislatures put Trump back into office. Because after her dismal primary performance, if she isn't either sworn in as VP or retains her Senate seat, her political career is essentially over.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (EGyGV)

327 Grant vs Lee, 1861

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (4NtsG)

328 General Hospital > Bankrupting Hospital

Luke and Laura > Joe and Jill

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (KAi1n)

329 But who the hell in 2020 is voting for Trump and
some Dem nutter? Or in fairness who the hell is voting for a Republican
congresscritter and Biden? Do you want you socialism or not?


Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (qlFIA)

I know of at least one demorat who voted Trump then straight 'rat all the way down. I suspect many many demorats in my state followed suit.

Posted by: kallisto at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (DJFLF)

330 If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.
Posted by: Romeo13

--

I don't think that is correct, I see 232 Trump 244 Biden without the four.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (kA3Cp)

331 There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report -- 15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

And, yet, that would not have altered the "outcome."
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (H5knJ)


Which means they also did not know that the plan all along was to put the first black woman at the helm.

People are dumb as rocks.

If you think the "Biden is not my President" is loud, wait until they pull the rug out from under him and prop up the witch.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (sfhL4)

332 There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report -- 15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

___

Yeah we had that covered.
- Dominion

Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (22mNy)

333 226 BREAKING: D.C. CA, COLORADO, CONNECTICUT, DELAWARE,
GUAM, HAWAII,ILLINOIS, MAINE, MARYLAND, MASSACHUSETTS, MINNESOTA,
NEVADA, NEW JERSEY, NEW MEXICO, NEW YORK, NORTH CAROLINA, OREGON, RI,
VERMONT, VIRGINIA, WA, VIRGIN ISLAND FILE AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF
DEFENDENTS (asshole states)



***************



That's a list of states that should have their elections monitored by the federal government.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original trans-Wookie at December 10, 2020 03:12 PM (xxG/v)

Being on this list should get their electors tossed too.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:16 PM (946rW)

*************

I like the idea of tossing their electors as well.

Any chance they can have their status as states stripped from them so that they're treated as territories once again? No Senators, no Representatives, and an appointed governor would be nice to impose upon them for the election crimes they've committed.

Posted by: Sasquatch, the Original trans-Wookie at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (xxG/v)

334 Mitch should give Kamala Romney - they deserve each other.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (4NtsG)


It's not actually a bad idea. Romney would be replaced by someone more reliably conservative, meaning he'd be unlikely to ever actually exercise his power.

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (jOcSX)

335
There was some poll linked at Insty's that showed a chunk of Dems
wouldn't have voted for Biden had they known about the Hunter report --
15% IIRC although I might be misremembering the amount.

***

Biden campaigned mostly on "let's return to normal!"

Its hard to make that promise when you are taking bribes from China and your son is banging his underage niece.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (qlFIA)

336 Without Defendant States' combined 62 electoral votes, President Trump presumably has 232 electoral votes, and former Vice President Biden presumably has 244

Posted by: Straight from the mouth of Texas at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (BBWrU)

Oh, is that the case? Drat.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (LFUkn)

337 So if this is war between the Democrats, when does the organized crime family headed by "Ma" Biden come out with something against Kamala?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (WkPC9)

338 Why should Harris give up her Senate seat now? She wouldn't be inaugurated as VP until 1/20/21. It's a stupid observation.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (KAi1n)

339 Does the site keep going offline or is that just me?

Happened twice now.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (Zz0t1)

340 Funny thing is if you complain about the FBI "pausing" the Hunter Biden investigation for the election, the FBI will take that under advisement for the next time an election rolls around.

If it's a GOP associated person that could be investigated, they'll say, "Well, last time people complained when we paused and investigation, so we didn't this time." If it's another DEM, "Well, long-standing precedent (circa 2020) says we don't investigate politically sensitive subjects near an election."

Posted by: All Just Part of the Plan at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (dYe5S)

341 235 Since I think John Brennan was the actual president of the US during Sparky's reign, is it too much to think he is running this entire shit show?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:08 PM (T1Dne)
-----------------------

Sparky's too lazy and inept but he's a good front man.
_creases

Posted by: Braenyard wearing Brooks Bros clothes and white shoes at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (CZm2G)

342 Oh MY... and I know I am saying that a lot today... "Ron Heuer et al" have moved to intervene as PLAINTIFFS in the Texas v Asshoe State case. Including in the list of interveners are voters from WI, MI and GA and Legislators from MI and PA.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (946rW)

343 WI response argues, among other things, that Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2 direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the event of a fraudulent election.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)

344 > The Senate only gets to vote for people who received electoral votes though.

Given that electors can vote for who they damned well please, SOMEONE would have electoral votes. Just maybe not enough to win outright.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (7Kh21)

345
Biden probably does not remember he agreed to step down.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 10, 2020 03:18 PM


biden doesn't remember what he had for lunch today

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (DUIap)

346 All the dramatic intrigue and serious betrayal by Democrats over the last five years, and Hollywood still can't see the movie possibilities.

Nothing there, nothing there.

Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (3aI0K)

347 wait

so we have other states backing the ones who got caught stealing 2020?


wild man

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (GIeIM)

348 334 If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.
Posted by: Romeo13

--

I don't think that is correct, I see 232 Trump 244 Biden without the four.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (kA3Cp)

Ouch, thanks

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (d9rwJ)

349 That said, what good would the Hunter/Chinese stuff getting airplay before the election have done? Think. About. It. NOW, we're at the remedy stage and it's just coming out (to the general public). Why would you have scripted it before if the Steal involves just adding enough fake votes to overcome Trump? The 3-Kinds Biden platter coming out then would be old news now.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (KAi1n)


interesting point

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (UPoLF)

350 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis so what the heck..what if the Trump Group already did their coup? White hats are now running the FBI and "some" of the media? Super subtle coup and now they are doing the slow, gentle crash landing for the Opposition?
Posted by: azjaeger at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (3/XaG)


What's this about ACB in bikinis? Are there pictures? Video? Please tell me there's video!

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (jOcSX)

351 Does a candidate legally/constitutionally have to have a running mate?

I believe the Senate gets to pick the VP in that case.

No electoral vote for President = House picks.

No electoral vote for Vice Presiden = Senate picks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia



Senate, run by Pence, picks Trump. :-0

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (fu1JC)

352 Nevada should itself be a defendant, not just a fren of the defendants.

Posted by: Hands (but no gloves and no mask) at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (786Ro)

353 So, is this to fast-track Kameltoe? Or is it cover for a possible Trump win? To blame ALL fraud and loss on Joe?

Or is my tinfoil hat too tight?

Posted by: acethepug at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (5faQs)

354 If Harris becomes P, she will have her majority Dem Senate within days. Then she'll get her VP.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (KAi1n)

355 AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF
DEFENDENTS (asshole states)



Well, I'd say there's no fucking way that SCOTUS could ignore the case.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (oVJmc)

356 Also, in the movie, the herbivores didn't *make* the carnivores reject their nature. It happened organically a long time before the movie begins, and the founding of Zootopia was one of the results of the peace between the carnivores and the herbivores.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 10, 2020 03:23 PM (YYlyE)


I haven't seen a Pixar or Pixar (Prisney) style flick in ages. But did a bunch of cats wind up dying because the owners decided to feed them vegetarian diets after seeing that movie?

Posted by: David French at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (L8ADy)

357
I believe the Senate gets to pick the VP in that case.

No electoral vote for President = House picks.

No electoral vote for Vice Presiden = Senate picks.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:24 PM


the Senate confirms the VP

the President nominates, the Senate confirms

just like Justices

Posted by: Gerald Ford at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (DUIap)

358 > Why should Harris give up her Senate seat now?

Maybe because her new duties are taking up so much time that she can't effectively do her old job?

Nah, that would require that she have a sense of ethics.

Never mind.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (7Kh21)

359 Isn't Harris named on some of these documents, too? If, as SWC opines, that this setup would lead to a Biden resignation, why shouldn't she go down, as well, and make way for President Pelosi? Of course, given "Democrats," the FBI will whiff...unexpectedly.

Posted by: Armchair Sinner at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (BnOvL)

360 Its hard to make that promise when you are taking bribes from China and your son is banging his underage niece.

"That's not normal?"
--Leftist elite

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (KZzsI)

361 342 Why should Harris give up her Senate seat now? She wouldn't be inaugurated as VP until 1/20/21. It's a stupid observation.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (KAi1n)

___

Yep. As a senator she earns $14,500 a month. Why give that up until the very last minute?

Posted by: Asshoes at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (22mNy)

362 Biden, w the 4 disputed states (PA/20, MI/16, GA/16, WI/10), has 306 ECV. Without those 62, he still has 244 and PDT had 232. PDT needs to either take this to the House or get 38 of those 62 ECV, bc even w the 4 states removed biden has more. Btw, TX screwed up the math and claimed it was 72 ECV.

Posted by: EveR at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (DsGxB)

363 Heh.

OT:

It's been known that Criterion was going to release a box set of a Chinese director, Wong Kar-Wai, for a while. I've never really cared. I've seen some and like them, but he's never really been all that important to me.

Well, they announced it today, and the board I read is pissed. Wong tinkered with half the movies (ala George Lucas) and they're not including a couple of important ones.

I'm glad I was never excited about it. The sadness is palpable.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (NWM+b)

364 If the four states are enjoined from sending electors, and AZ legislature sends their own electors as they have threatened, then Trump wins, but I don't see the four states going without electors, either the court forces them to remove illegal ballots, or those states legislatures also send their own electors.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (kA3Cp)

365 331 Grant vs Lee, 1861
------------------
Grant was out west until 63.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (T1Dne)

366 Will Big Tech ban PA legislators for suing their own state?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (oVJmc)

367 > the Senate confirms the VP

> the President nominates, the Senate confirms

Yes, if a vacancy occurs while the President is in office, certainly, but that wasn't the question.

The question was "What happens if someone gets elected President who doesn't have a running mate?"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (7Kh21)

368 Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (KAi1n)



interesting point

Posted by: Harry Paratestes

Once in awhile, it happens with me. That's why I like it here. : - >

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (KAi1n)

369 Joe Biden's alibi:

Psalm 35:11 Ruthless witnesses come forward; they question me on things I know nothing about.

Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (3aI0K)

370 Maybe because her new duties are taking up so much time that she can't effectively do her old job?

Nah, that would require that she have a sense of ethics.

Never mind.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (7Kh21)

There's not a job she can't do effectively

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (LFUkn)

371 @johnrobertsFox

Posing this question: If @Twitter and @Facebook censor a news story that ultimately turns out to be true, what does that say about the role of big tech in our democracy?


Roberts must not have received the memo stating that censoring ANYTHING in the US is totes OK, nay, it is GOOD AND PROPER, when it protects readers from being triggered by micro-agressions, disturbing their fragile minds.

Posted by: Gref at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (AMIL/)

372 Ohio resubmitted with correction, I think.


Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:26 PM (Pqytn)


It's a troll.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (XbMF/)

373 time out

my kids are fighting at home school

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (GIeIM)

374 THE John Roberts said that?

Lolita Express John Roberts?

Hmmm, then I'm sure he's on the up and up, and totally not serving some other agenda.

I guess we'll see, but it's looking more and more like the pile on of Family Biden at the moment is for some purpose other than the pursuit of "justice."

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (hku12)

375 I thought Roberts and Lunz were still working the Palomino club over on 13th street.

Huba Huba boys and girls, give up the green for this pair of stallions - whoo hoo!

Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (9X60i)

376 373 > the Senate confirms the VP

> the President nominates, the Senate confirms

Yes, if a vacancy occurs while the President is in office, certainly, but that wasn't the question.

The question was "What happens if someone gets elected President who doesn't have a running mate?"

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (7Kh21)

==========

I don't think that specific instance is proscribed, but I imagine the VP spot would just never get filled until either the Senate approved a new pick or the next election.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (NWM+b)

377 one of a thousand reasons they wanted him to concede right away. Hide Biden's decline.

'Hide The Decline'. That sounds familiar. Is it a stock phrase or was it the Obamacy?

Posted by: t-bird at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (Ypqc1)

378 366 Biden, w the 4 disputed states (PA/20, MI/16, GA/16, WI/10), has 306 ECV. Without those 62, he still has 244 and PDT had 232. PDT needs to either take this to the House or get 38 of those 62 ECV, bc even w the 4 states removed biden has more. Btw, TX screwed up the math and claimed it was 72 ECV.
----------------------
So no one has any mandate. Seems familiar. I wonder why?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (T1Dne)

379 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis

Was it a fashion show? She danced in one bikini after another,or was she dancing in other peoples bikinis, or leftists think a conservative woman Supreme Court Justice shouldn't dance in a bikini and instead wear the "Handmaid's Tale" version of burka bathing attire?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (WkPC9)

380 370 331 Grant vs Lee, 1861
------------------
Grant was out west until 63.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (T1Dne)

#smartmilitaryblog

Posted by: browndog at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (BgMrQ)

381 DC has filed on behalf of 22 blue states in opposition.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:05 PM (BM2fS)

We can haz CW2 now?

Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (5FCda)

382 That would be the fitting end for 2020. The fraudulent states get their EVs tossed but Trump loses.

Posted by: josephistan at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (Izzlo)

383 OT: Today we swore in our new Mayor here. He is touted as the first gay mayor, first mayor of color (Hispanic). For years I can now refer to him as Mayor Gloryhole (Gloria).

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (ynpvh)

384 Biden campaigned mostly on "let's return to normal!"

Its hard to make that promise when you are taking bribes from China and your son is banging his underage niece.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (qlFIA)

Considering our ruling class...

Posted by: Grip the Weasel at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (KbCG3)

385 Ok, so this is focused on convicting or exonerating him?

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (B0mGw)

386 370 331 Grant vs Lee, 1861
------------------
Grant was out west until 63.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (T1Dne)

Forget it, he's rolling

Posted by: josephistan at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (Izzlo)

387 Attorneys Generalseses?

Posted by: Safariland Slinger at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (A4Dbz)

388 License puddin, license

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (4NtsG)

389 390 Biden campaigned mostly on "let's return to normal!"

Its hard to make that promise when you are taking bribes from China and your son is banging his underage niece.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 03:28 PM (qlFIA)

Considering our ruling class...
Posted by: Grip the Weasel at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (KbCG3)

===========

"This is the normal we want. Our leaders leading hedonistic lives while they make normal people miserable through terrible policy."
-The Left

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (NWM+b)

390
General Hospital > Bankrupting Hospital

Luke and Laura > Joe and Jill
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (KAi1n)






Yeah, that fits.

Luke RAPED Laura at the beginning of their story line.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (EGyGV)

391 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis


I would like to file an amicus brief in that case.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (oVJmc)

392 Ok, so this is focused on convicting or exonerating him?

Who?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (ZSK0i)

393 What's peculiar about these known stories being reported on now is that the Turnip isn't even inaugurated yet. Aside from the fact that they all cheated their asses off, he hasn't technically "won." I would think they'd have thought better than to bury the guy with the stench of corruption *before* he even assumes office.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (O+I8R)

394 any of you smart people think of a way the Ds have their own civil war rather than them causing the USA to have one?

-

Democrats don't work that way, sadly. They can't stand the idea of some family in North Carolina that isn't celebrating gay bathrooms in California.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (FY89y)

395 well PA is now locked down for three weeks

fml

Posted by: BlackOrchid at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (j9HX3)

396 If I was Joe, I'd take Kamela on a walk in a national park before January 20th.

Posted by: squid_hunt at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (B0mGw)

397 Who?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (ZSK0i)

Yes. That's how he signs his name.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (LFUkn)

398 From #173:
Dec 10 2020 Motion of State of Ohio for leave to file amicus brief not
accepted for filing. (December 10, 2020) (corrected motion
electronically filed)

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (Pqytn)

399 WI response argues, among other things, that Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2 direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the event of a fraudulent election.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)



We're abiding by our Constitutional duty to choose electors. We simply used election fraud to choose them. Nyah nyah.

Posted by: Wisconsin at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (786Ro)

400 Well, I'd say there's no fucking way that SCOTUS could ignore the case.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (oVJmc)

+++++++

To be fair all the blue states are asking for SCOTUS to tell Texas (et al) to get lost, they have no standing to sue. They don't want them to "take the case" (as in, hold a hearing and consider the merits).

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (ZR7kf)

401 I live in a serious asshole state.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (9Om/r)



I live in Oklahoma. Condolences to the rest of you. Oh-say-oh...that's' "Walk in peace" in cherokee. Closesgt tghing we've got to "Hello".

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (XxJt1)

402 But did a bunch of cats wind up dying because the owners decided to feed them vegetarian diets after seeing that movie?
Posted by: David French at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (L8ADy)
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Don't know about that, but there have been cases of vegans making their pets seriously ill / dead by doing that, even before Zootopia came out.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (Uhu8A)

403 You guys need to factor in Virginia's electors in the count too. Whatever the court does about extra legislative rules for election will affect Virginia too as they threw out through consent decree the requirement that a witness be present when an absentee ballot is opened by a voter.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (946rW)

404 I'm very confused by whatever is happening at SCOTUS

Posted by: vmom Trump Won!



1. Texas has filed a request to be allowed to file a complaint against GA, PA, MI and WI, alleging that Texas's voters have been harmed by those states' illegally changing their voting rules and therefore changing the result of the national vote totals.

2. The Supreme Court is a court of "original" jurisdiction for suits between states, which means TX didn't have to go through a lower federal court to hear these issues.

3. The Supreme Court's official stance is that it doesn't have to hear this case if it doesn't want to. Most states believe that the Supremes DO have to hear these cases.

4. GA, MI, PA and WI have all filed their responses today to TX's request to file a complaint.

5. DC, 21 blue states and territories and the Asshoe Dem AG of NC have filed with the Court asking to be allowed to file "friend of the court" briefs in the case. ("Hey, we agree with PA, MI, GA, and WI against TX!")

6. 17 red states have filed with the Court asking to be allowed to file "friend of the court" briefs. ("Hey, we agree with TX against those Asshoe States [PA, MI, GA and WI!]").

7. Some Republicans in the PA Legislature have also filed to be allowed to support TX.

8. Some Dem legislature folks from MI and GA have filed to be allowed to support the Asshoe States.



As yet, the Supremes have not chosen to hear the case, have not even given permission for TX to file its complaint against the Asshoe States, and hasn't given anyone permission to file their friend of the Court briefs.

It's a good old fashioned Charlie Foxtrot*





*"clusterfuck"

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (BM2fS)

405 "347 WI response argues, among other things, that Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2 direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the event of a fraudulent election.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)"

Nothing like openly admitting what everybody knows.

Posted by: fringe at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (FPur3)

406 Oh MY... and I know I am saying that a lot today... "Ron Heuer et al" have moved to intervene as PLAINTIFFS in the Texas v Asshoe State case. Including in the list of interveners are voters from WI, MI and GA and Legislators from MI and PA.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (946rW)

Who?

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (Ed8Zd)

407 > I don't think that specific instance is proscribed, but I imagine the VP spot would just never get filled until either the Senate approved a new pick or the next election.

No, the XIIth Amendment says that if no VP candidate has a "majority of the whole number of electors appointed", the Senate chooses immediately from among the top two.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (7Kh21)

408 We can haz CW2 now?
Posted by: Gaelic Girl's Irish Democracy at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (5FCda)

Yep. The sides are drawn up.

Got some work to do in AZ before we take the field, though. Removing the GOPe from power in Maricopa would go a long way to solving our problems here.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (N3El/)

409 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis

-

Hopefully the cute little ruffly plaid 60s style ones.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (FY89y)

410 Will Biden make it to January 20 ????

Posted by: James at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (nOJDr)

411 The fake ballots were hauled around in carpet bags.

Posted by: klaftern at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (RuIsu)

412 Decency is on the ballot

Posted by: Jill Biden at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (fLpTX)

413
revelation that Hunter is also being probed

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YEEEEK

Posted by: Hunter And His Stripper Friends at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (zY6gH)

414 Grampa, are we crooks?

Posted by: Arkansas Biden Baby-elect at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (W4eKo)

415 Democrats don't work that way, sadly. They can't stand the idea of some family in North Carolina that isn't celebrating gay bathrooms in California.
---------------------
Its the Disney way. Just ask Bob Iger. Cept, no trannies in the ladies rooms in Disneyland.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (T1Dne)

416 Attorneys Generalseses?
Posted by: Safariland Slinger at December 10, 2020 03:33 PM (A4Dbz)


Attornii Generalii

Posted by: Colorado Alex in Exile at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (jOcSX)

417 forbearance to me means, waiting for the local police to start shooting the FBI before i join in.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (YltW9)

418 WI response argues, among other things, that
Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2
direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the
event of a fraudulent election.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)





We're abiding by our Constitutional duty to choose electors. We simply used election fraud to choose them. Nyah nyah.

Posted by: Wisconsin at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (786Ro)

It is good they are admitting the fraud.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (946rW)

419
Has Kamala Harris resigned her Senate seat as of today, asking for a friend?

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (rQ/Vt)

420
Biden campaigned mostly on "let's return to normal!"


Yes, just as did President Warren Moon. He, too, had skeletons and mistresses in his closet!

Doesn't Kamala exactly resemble Silent Cal Coolidge?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (pNxlR)

421 I'm very confused by whatever is happening at SCOTUS

There's not much point in following it. In a short amount of time, the Supremes will decide whatever they decide, and then you can just claim that you told everyone that this is what was going to happen all along. Like everyone else.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (H5knJ)

422 407
I live in a serious asshole state.




Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 10, 2020 03:22 PM (9Om/r)


I
live in Oklahoma. Condolences to the rest of you. Oh-say-oh...that's'
"Walk in peace" in cherokee. Closesgt tghing we've got to "Hello".


Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (XxJt1)

There's that Far Side cartoon, where the native goes to the anthropoligists, "Kill is the closest word we have for fun".

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (ynpvh)

423 > Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis


Are there pictures? Please let there be pictures.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (7Kh21)

424 Decency is on the ballot

Posted by: Jill Biden at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (fLpTX)

She just didn't tell you which candidate had it

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (LFUkn)

425 well PA is now locked down for three weeks

fml
Posted by: BlackOrchid

-

CASES CASES CASES

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (FY89y)

426

that is so gross doing sex to your brothers daughter, if it happened

plus what teenager would sex her smelly drunken uncle?

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (GIeIM)

427 413 > I don't think that specific instance is proscribed, but I imagine the VP spot would just never get filled until either the Senate approved a new pick or the next election.

No, the XIIth Amendment says that if no VP candidate has a "majority of the whole number of electors appointed", the Senate chooses immediately from among the top two.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:36 PM (7Kh21)

=========

But the electors were awarded to a specific candidate on the ticket.

So, in the instance we're all imagining where Biden dies and Kamala is going to be president, I think it would play out like this:

Biden is awarded the electors and made POTUS despite being dead.
Kamala is made VP.
Kamala is then made POTUS.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (NWM+b)

428 So, with plaintiffs, defendants, and applicants for leave to submit amicus briefs, what is the total state count involved in the Texas lawsuit?

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (Pqytn)

429 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis


I would like to file an amicus brief in that case.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2020 03:34 PM (oVJmc)


I'd like to talk to her about what's in my briefs.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

430 >>> 431 Fuck your kids

Posted by: Moon Bark at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (b3gCG)


What he said.

Posted by: The Bidens at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (l6b3d)

431 370 331 Grant vs Lee, 1861
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Grant was out west until 63.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (T1Dne)


Incidentally, one of the sickest burns in all of American history is when Grant and Lee met at Appomattox Courthouse, and they were casually talking. Grant said they had met once before, when Grant would have been a lowly lieutenant, possibly during the Mexican War, and Lee basically said "Oh did we? I don't remember."

Oh snap!

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)

432 @johnrobertsFox

Posing this question: If @Twitter and @Facebook censor a news story that ultimately turns out to be true, what does that say about the role of big tech in our democracy?


Roberts must not have received the memo stating that censoring ANYTHING in the US is totes OK, nay, it is GOOD AND PROPER, when it protects readers from being triggered by micro-agressions, disturbing their fragile minds.
Posted by: Gref at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (AMIL/)


Paul Ryan just withheld payment from his bonus check.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (y7DUB)

433 2 things we absolutely know are true:

1. the MFM wouldn't come out with the Biden story now (or ever) unless they were given the "go ahead" by their dem masters.

2. The dems give their "go ahead" only to help dems retain power.

This leads me to conclude that Slow Joe is slower than even we thought and they can't hold on to his sanity for another months and are desparate o force him to step down now.

But there are many other possibilities

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (Ed8Zd)

434 411 "347 WI response argues, among other things, that Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2 direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the event of a fraudulent election.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)"
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This meally mouth perfidy will cause a career ending injury to Aaron Rogers this weekend. That's how Karma works cheeseheads.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (T1Dne)

435
WI response argues, among other things, that Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2 direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the event of a fraudulent election.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM


huh

how many divisions does Wisconsin have, again?

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (DUIap)

436 WI response argues, among other things, that

Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2

direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the

event of a fraudulent election.


Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)








We're abiding by our Constitutional duty to choose electors. We simply used election fraud to choose them. Nyah nyah.



Posted by: Wisconsin at December 10, 2020 03:35 PM (786Ro)

It is good they are admitting the fraud.


Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (946rW)

But that ignores their OTHER constitutional duty to provide a republican form of government.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (946rW)

437 So, with plaintiffs, defendants, and applicants for leave to submit amicus briefs, what is the total state count involved in the Texas lawsuit?

57.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (H5knJ)

438 See?

Ignoring the trolls doesn't work.

They keep flinging poo all over the blog, regardless.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

439 I'd like to talk to her about what's in my briefs.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

She probably doesn't want to hear about your skidmarks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (WkPC9)

440 I'm very confused by whatever is happening at SCOTUS

Posted by: vmom Trump Won!

unacceptable, young lady!

Posted by: bat nationalist at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (prPBq)

441 442
WI response argues, among other things, that Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2 direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the event of a fraudulent election.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM

========

So, it's an admission that the did not follow their own laws, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (NWM+b)

442

ACB or Kamala bikini pics?



I this one answers itself

ACB takes care of herself

Kamala looks like her last exercise session was 15+ years ago

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (GIeIM)

443 > But the electors were awarded to a specific candidate on the ticket.

They may be "awarded" as such, but they can (and occasionally do) vote for whoever they want.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (7Kh21)

444 Nothing says I'm a Cock-Of-The-Walk philanthropist like bankrupting a hospital.

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to die of COVID!

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (WOYcU)

445 AMICi CURIAE IN SUPPORT OF

DEFENDENTS (asshole states)







Well, I'd say there's no fucking way that SCOTUS could ignore the case.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 10, 2020 03:30 PM (oVJmc)

I heard somewhere on the internets that SCOTUS is the first (and only) court inter-state disputes go to, so they don't have a choice in taking it or not.

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (kOpft)

446 Forgot to mention President Trumps request for leave to in intervene with Texas in the lawsuit.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (Pqytn)

447 445 See?

Ignoring the trolls doesn't work.

They keep flinging poo all over the blog, regardless.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (Zz0t1)

=========

Still better than engaging with the trolls and the regulars helping the trolls smear the shit all over the walls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (NWM+b)

448 Ignoring the trolls doesn't work.

---

It works for me.

Posted by: SMH at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (RU4sa)

449 Some attorney really needs to start an underwear business (think Duluth's) named Amicus.

Posted by: Undercover Brother at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (FY89y)

450 WTF is SCOTUS waiting for now? if they are going to go 0-9 to reject TX, well do it now so we can get the CW started.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (a0IVu)

451 It is good they are admitting the fraud.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (946rW)

Here's the exact quote, tell me if I'm misreading it

Texas's reliance on 3 U.S.C. 2 fails for similar reasons. That statute provides that, "[w]henever any
State has held an election for the purpose of choosing
electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day
prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a
subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of
such State may direct."

3 U.S.C.

2. According to Texas, that statute applies not simply when a state "has failed to make a choice" on election day, 3 U.S.C. 2, but rather "[w]hen a State fails to conduct a valid election for any reason," including because of the kinds of state election law violations alleged in this
case.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ZR7kf)

452 450 > But the electors were awarded to a specific candidate on the ticket.

They may be "awarded" as such, but they can (and occasionally do) vote for whoever they want.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (7Kh21)

=========

That effectively ended in the last few years when SCOTUS ruled that states could punish and replace faithless electors.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (NWM+b)

453 443 WI response argues, among other things, that

Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2

direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the

event of a fraudulent election.


Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 03:29 PM (ZR7kf)


I said this.

The Constitution is silent in fraud.

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ZfRYq)

454
She probably doesn't want to hear about your skidmarks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (WkPC9)


https://youtu.be/zkrTN373OX8

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (Zz0t1)

455 I would like to think that John Roberts is cottoning on to the truth.

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (GadyI)

456 But there are many other possibilities
-----------------------
Its at least a three way assrape within the Dem Party. Then add the goat fucker contingent of the GOP and its a four way assrape. Then there are other possibilities when you consider how many Global assrapers are in the game.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (T1Dne)

457 Incidentally, one of the sickest burns in all of American history is when Grant and Lee met at Appomattox Courthouse, and they were casually talking. Grant said they had met once before, when Grant would have been a lowly lieutenant, possibly during the Mexican War, and Lee basically said "Oh did we? I don't remember."

Oh snap!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)
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Yeah, and who forced who to surrender?

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (Uhu8A)

458 So, with plaintiffs, defendants, and applicants for
leave to submit amicus briefs, what is the total state count involved in
the Texas lawsuit?


Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (Pqytn)


By tomorrow? Probably all of them. I cannot see Republican states sitting this out if Dems are in lockstep. Anyone in an R state that hasn't joined in, start burning up the phones.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (946rW)

459
Corpses are gonna start accumulating in the riverside salt marshes beside the Delaware River.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (pNxlR)

460 > That effectively ended in the last few years when SCOTUS ruled that states could punish and replace faithless electors.

They can be punished (maybe...none ever has been), but their vote still stands.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (7Kh21)

461 Incidentally, one of the sickest burns in all of American history is when Grant and Lee met at Appomattox Courthouse, and they were casually talking. Grant said they had met once before, when Grant would have been a lowly lieutenant, possibly during the Mexican War, and Lee basically said "Oh did we? I don't remember."

Oh snap!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)

Did Grant reply, "Oh well. Anyway, tell your army to take their rifles and fuck off back home."?

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (aKqzO)

462 =========

Still better than engaging with the trolls and the regulars helping the trolls smear the shit all over the walls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (NWM+b)


You drive a good point.

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

463 Funny how that "forbearance" rule only ever works for Democrats. You could almost say that was Barr's only accomplishment at DOJ.

Posted by: President Elect Decaf at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (hpVf/)

464 To be fair all the blue states are asking for SCOTUS to tell Texas (et al) to get lost, they have no standing to sue. They don't want them to "take the case" (as in, hold a hearing and consider the merits).
Posted by: Shenanigans


Fine. Since we can't get relief at the last place available, then war it is.

And I do NOT say that lightly. That's what the Supreme Court's job is. To settle differences between the states so they DON'T go to war.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (fu1JC)

465 451 Nothing says I'm a Cock-Of-The-Walk philanthropist like bankrupting a hospital.

Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to die of COVID!
Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (WOYcU)

...

Didn't Michelle Obama make her mark suing hospitals for civil rights type stuff? Maybe I'm remembering that all wrong.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (yL25O)

466 Never forget that Kamala dropped out of the primaries when polling in the SINGLE DIGITS. Dems who voted for her have been had.

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (GadyI)

467
I'd like to talk to her about what's in my briefs.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:38 PM (Zz0t1)

She probably doesn't want to hear about your skidmarks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (WkPC9)







Now who's being childish?

Posted by: The Andys at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (EGyGV)

468 469 =========

Still better than engaging with the trolls and the regulars helping the trolls smear the shit all over the walls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (NWM+b)

You drive a good point.
Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (Zz0t1)

============

I smrt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (NWM+b)

469 In an ideal world, the entire election would be cast out based on systemic fraud.

But for the sake of discussion , lets suppose SCOTUS finds that the states that changed their balloting procedures without following their own laws violated the constitutional requirement for those states to ensure their citizens have a republican form of government.

I know, I know, the Roberts court follows the constitution... spare me the peals of laughter...

I suspect that the least confrontational remedy would be that SCOTUS rules those states must have their legislatures assign their electors, rather than just send them as a bloc to the winner of the election.

How would that likely shake out?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (5XK0y)

470 They're not admitting fraud. They are saying that accepting Texas's position for the sake of argument, it is wrong on its face.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (H5knJ)

471 433

that is so gross doing sex to your brothers daughter, if it happenedplus what teenager would sex her smelly drunken uncle?


plus what teenager would sex her smelly drunken uncle?

Posted by : will chose nic later
It's called a family reunion.


Posted by: Arkansas at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (ynpvh)

472
424
WI response argues, among other things, that

Texas has no right to force them to do an Article 2 Sec 1.2

direct-election because the Constitution didn't specify anything in the

event of a fraudulent election.

That is a stupid argument they are giving. The US Constitution says states must have a free and fair election based on the rules the state legislature passes. If a state, like WI, does not have a free and fair election, as they seem to admit when they admit fraud, then that state has violated the rules set by the state legislature thereby violating the US Constitution.

Posted by: Killer Cuomo at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (rQ/Vt)

473 I said this.



The Constitution is silent in fraud.





Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ZfRYq)

It is actually not. Requiring a republican form of government implies you are not allowing fraud to dilute and steal people's votes.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (946rW)

474 It is good they are admitting the fraud.

Does kind of read that way

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (KZzsI)

475 "The Rule of Forbearance" = a protection racket by the Elites, for the Elites. Meanwhile, the public would really benefit from the knowledge that a candidate or family/associates are under investigation and presumably that would be a significant factor in deciding whether the candidate is trustworthy for the position. But, no, the Elites gotta Elite to protect the Elites.

Posted by: Paladin at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (Gj6c7)

476 Get off me, Barky.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (H5knJ)

477 Finally, to add to 410 above, The Donald, Our President, has asked to be allowed to intervene (make himself a party) in the case against the Asshoe States, and about 7 states have also asked for that permission. None have yet been given permission to do so.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (BM2fS)

478 29 > Kinda like they knew all this stuff ahead of time, huh?

Yeah, that was the plan.

They knew that Kamaltoe could never, ever be elected. No one likes her, especially not blacks.

So they used Dopey Joe as a front man.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (7Kh21)

I still think it's Nancy. She wants top prize, then declare herself autocrat.

Posted by: Flyover... at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (Rbu5d)

479 Other factoid - James Biden BUILT the Obama cages. His company miraculously got the contract.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (buTO7)

480 But that ignores their OTHER constitutional duty to provide a republican form of government.


Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (946rW)


This is where we find out wehther we can dkeep it.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (XxJt1)

481 The Republican form of government clause applies to the federal government, not the states (it benefits the states, theoretically, but they are not the ones bound by it - a state can be a fcuked-up syndicracy like CA. It has never been litigated and, IIRC, SCOTUS has said it's non-justiciable.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (KAi1n)

482 They're not admitting fraud. They are saying that accepting Texas's position for the sake of argument, it is wrong on its face.

Posted by: Barack Obama at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (H5knJ)

And they are just as wrong as you always were Barry.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (946rW)

483 Didn't Michelle Obama make her mark suing hospitals for civil rights type stuff? Maybe I'm remembering that all wrong.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (yL25O)


I think her "job" was trying to foist low income people on other hospital.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (y7DUB)

484 It is good they are admitting the fraud.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:37 PM (946rW)

Here's the exact quote, tell me if I'm misreading it

Texas's reliance on 3 U.S.C. 2 fails for similar reasons. That statute provides that, "[w]henever any
State has held an election for the purpose of choosing
electors, and has failed to make a choice on the day
prescribed by law, the electors may be appointed on a
subsequent day in such a manner as the legislature of
such State may direct."

3 U.S.C.

2. According to Texas, that statute applies not simply when a state "has failed to make a choice" on election day, 3 U.S.C. 2, but rather "[w]hen a State fails to conduct a valid election for any reason," including because of the kinds of state election law violations alleged in this
case.
Posted by: Shenanigans at Decembe

So are the fraud states also arguing that there may be fraud/ is fraud, but too bad Texas, there's no remedy for it?

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (Ed8Zd)

485 Now who's being childish?
Posted by: The Andys at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (EGyGV)
----------
Talking to you is an uphill struggle.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (Uhu8A)

486 I do not like this Family Biden.
A probe will surely assholes widen.

Posted by: John Hurt in a Yurt eating Dessert at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (A4Dbz)

487 >>>Grant vs Lee, 1861
------------------
Grant was out west until 63.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (T1Dne)

=======

Grant out west >>>Girls out west

Posted by: Or not at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (o9apC)

488 well PA is now locked down for three weeks

--

*confused face*

But, I thought masks worked!

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (O+I8R)

489 473
Never forget that Kamala dropped out of the primaries when polling in the SINGLE DIGITS. Dems who voted for her have been had.

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (GadyI)

She never polled above 4th place in the Dem field, even in her home state. I don't understand how all the other Dem candidates just rolled over and accepted her being chosen for VP.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (CQ3Qb)

490 477 They're not admitting fraud. They are saying that accepting Texas's position for the sake of argument, it is wrong on its face.
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (H5knJ)

#constitutionalscholarlol

Posted by: browndog at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (BgMrQ)

491 PA Legislature files amicus brief in support of Texas lawsuit...against PA.
______________

It's funny because one of the things the PA AG say in its response brief is that of course PA elections have to be conducted in accordance with the requirements of the PA constitution.

Except that the 2020 election wasn't. Which is what TX is complaining about. And the PA Supreme Court said, "nah, nah, too bad, you people complaining about the unconstitutional expansion of mail-in voting in PA waited too long to complain about it, so tough titties."

Now the PA legislature wants to complain to the SCOTUS, in support of TX. It's almost funny, or at least it would be if we didn't face the prospect of having a CCP-owned, senile old crook about to assume the powers of the presidency.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (k4dH2)

492 I don't think it's Nancy behind the Biden drama..I think it is the Obama faction wanting to push Joe out and install Kamala who will basically be doing his bidding. That mincing idiot could not stand how Trump dismantled his 'legacy' so this is how he sets it right, in his mind.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (a0IVu)

493 Those states are not admitting fraud. They are saying it's irrelevant since even if fraud occurred, so what?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (KAi1n)

494 The Constitution is silent in fraud.





Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (ZfRYq)

It is actually not. Requiring a republican form of government implies you are not allowing fraud to dilute and steal people's votes.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (946rW)


This!

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (y7DUB)

495 Carrot and stick. Trump should dangle a couple of pardons in front of Joe if he sings. Sing like a bird, Joe.

Posted by: Minuteman at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (iO854)

496 In these parts, the "rule of forbearance" says that you should have at least a .300 Win Mag or a 12 gauge loaded with slugs, in case of a bear attack.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (7Kh21)

497 488 The Republican form of government clause applies to the federal government, not the states (it benefits the states, theoretically, but they are not the ones bound by it - a state can be a fcuked-up syndicracy like CA. It has never been litigated and, IIRC, SCOTUS has said it's non-justiciable.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (KAi1n)

===========

I've always heard the Guarantee Clause meant that the individual states were required to have republican forms of government and it was the federal government's job to ensure it.

"Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic Violence."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (NWM+b)

498 But, I thought masks worked!

-

Only if healthy people wear them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (em09h)

499 ----------
Talking to you is an uphill struggle.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (Uhu8A)


Talking to you is like clapping with one hand.

https://youtu.be/mIMI0euN1wo

Posted by: Sponge - Office of the President Elect at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (Zz0t1)

500 I still think it's Nancy. She wants top prize, then declare herself autocrat.
Posted by: Flyover... at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (Rbu5d)

Now that's an interesting take, but it would require dirt on Kamala to come out-and not just that she slept with the married Mayor to get further in her political career.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (WkPC9)

501 Kinda like they knew all this stuff ahead of time, huh?

Yeah, that was the plan.

They knew that Kamaltoe could never, ever be elected. No one likes her, especially not blacks.

So they used Dopey Joe as a front man.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 02:57 PM (7Kh21)

I still think it's Nancy. She wants top prize, then declare herself autocrat.
Posted by: Flyover... at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (Rbu5d)


I think this gives them too much credit for being smart. If that was the case, why not Bernie? They were going to cheat wildly anyway, so why not go for full commie?

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (Ed8Zd)

502 Didn't Michelle Obama make her mark suing hospitals for civil rights type stuff? Maybe I'm remembering that all wrong.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (yL25O)

She had a $300K no-show job at a big hospital in Chicago. IIRC, she 'voluntarily' gave up her law license to make a bar investigation go away.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (aKqzO)

503
Since Joe is about to be to be discarded like a used candy bar wrapper, maybe it's time pay more attention to his intended replacement, Harris.

Or more generally, since it's the same vested interests and handlers either way: where are the hidden individuals that constitute the real, de facto Biden/Harris government, and how can we ruin their whole day?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (zY6gH)

504 It is actually not. Requiring a republican form of government implies you are not allowing fraud to dilute and steal people's votes.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner




I really wish Trump would pound on this point. The Constitution REQUIRES us to have a republican form of government, not a dictatorship of one party rule.

Also, the 14th Amendment allows Congress to eliminate house seats from states that intentionally harm their own voters' interests by diluting their votes. The problem being, of course, that Congress is owned by the Dems now.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (BM2fS)

505 There is nothing in the US Constitution and all of the USC and CFR that can be argued to justify accepting the results of a fraudulent election.

There are no deadlines or procedural loopholes that would require it. But, they are going to try to make you think so. They are going to try really hard.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (xfb67)

506
Joe Biden plans to create a "position that reaches out to conservatives," according to Cedric Richmond, whom the former Vice President has tapped to lead the White House Office of Public Engagement.


Expect a bitch-slapping, chump!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (pNxlR)

507 490 Didn't Michelle Obama make her mark suing hospitals for civil rights type stuff? Maybe I'm remembering that all wrong.
Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (yL25O)

I think her "job" was trying to foist low income people on other hospital.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (y7DUB)

...

That was it.

Maybe you're still a philanthropist if you're just bankrupting the other guy's hospital.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (yL25O)

508 Pelosi is 87. Do you honestly thinks she's in any better shape than Joe??

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 10, 2020 03:48 PM (JKNZq)

509 I heard somewhere on the internets that SCOTUS is the first (and only) court inter-state disputes go to, so they don't have a choice in taking it or not.

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (kOpft)

And if that's true then someone did their homework.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:48 PM (LFUkn)

510 Harris received ZERO delegates in the primaries.

Once she is installed when Joe dies next year, Harris should forever be called:

"The Usurper, AKA President Not-Hillary Clinton".


Hillary has to be incandescent right now. They might give her a position in the new admin, but it won't be enough.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (BM2fS)

511 Incidentally, one of the sickest burns in all of American history is when Grant and Lee met at Appomattox Courthouse, and they were casually talking. Grant said they had met once before, when Grant would have been a lowly lieutenant, possibly during the Mexican War, and Lee basically said "Oh did we? I don't remember."

Oh snap!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:39 PM (hku12)

Did Grant reply, "Oh well. Anyway, tell your army to take their rifles and fuck off back home."?
Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:42 PM (aKqzO)


No, actually Lee was much more gracious than I presented here. I believe he apologized to Grant for not remembering him.

But this being AoSHQ, I thought it was funny to pretend one of the greatest Americans to ever live would behave like a middle school girl, and the AoSHQ crowd would recognize the joke.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)

512 495
>>>Grant vs Lee, 1861

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Grant was out west until 63.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:31 PM (T1Dne)



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Grant out west >>>Girls out west

Posted by: Or not at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (o9apC)

West End Girls?

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (ynpvh)

513 >>>this stupid cvck does not in fact get it, but Fox is losing viewers and they have issued the command to their "journalists" to put The Masks back on, to trick the rubes into thinking Fox is any different than CNN.


Masks don't work.

Posted by: Roy at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (Ti+Tv)

514 > I believe the Senate gets to pick the VP in that case.

It will be the new Senate, but GA runoff won't be done, thus they will be one short (the other is not timed out in 2020). So 51-48 to start, Romney makes 49 D's in practice, and either Collins or Murkowski would tip it.

Posted by: Senatorial calculus at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (BBWrU)

515 And they are just as wrong as you always were Barry.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (946rW)

Heh, for a guy that supposedly taught constitutional law, Barry was dumb as a radioactive stump.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (MkuC5)

516 Joe Biden plans to create a "position that reaches out to conservatives," according to Cedric Richmond, whom the former Vice President has tapped to lead the White House Office of Public Engagement.

Expect a bitch-slapping, chump!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (pNxlR)

Hey, that's my old job!

Posted by: Adolf Eichmann at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (aKqzO)

517 Summary of "The Rule of Forbearance": the Elites (essentially all D's) may be investigated only during a short 3 month window after an election, and the investigation must stop as soon as an Elite declares his/her candidacy for an office. And no reporting can occur once the Elite has declared as a candidate.

Posted by: Paladin at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (Gj6c7)

518 375 Joe Biden's alibi:

Psalm 35:11 Ruthless witnesses come forward; they question me on things I know nothing about.
Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2020 03:32 PM (3aI0K)


Subtle Fix for The Big Guy

Posted by: Diesel Jones at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (0CeRG)

519
Hillary has to be incandescent right now. They might give her a position in the new admin, but it won't be enough.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (BM2fS)


I outlawed those bulbs......

Posted by: George W. Bush at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (Zz0t1)

520 *confused face*



But, I thought masks worked!

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (O+I8R)


If the people ever wake up it's going to be glorious. Till then, not so much.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (XxJt1)

521 The problem would be that Joe stacks all the position with his deep state buddies, then Commela is stuck with most of them.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (JKNZq)

522 Investigating the Bidens before the election would have influenced it by having to create even more fake ballots. Ol' Joe might have got 90-95 million votes.

Posted by: Stu Podaso at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (OaFqD)

523 477 They're not admitting fraud. They are saying that accepting Texas's position for the sake of argument, it is wrong on its face.
Posted by: Barack Obama at December 10, 2020 03:43 PM (H5knJ)

Agreed with whoever this is.

It's called arguing in the alternative.

So you're basically saying "my client is completely innocent. However, if the court finds my client to be guilty, it should not be for first degree murder for these following reasons..."

I know it looks weird, but it's the only way to get all the arguments both sides have in front of a judge without a million back and forths.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (UPoLF)

524 329 Completely outside the box...but people are posting about ACB dancing in bikinis so what the heck..what if the Trump Group already did their coup? White hats are now running the FBI and "some" of the media? Super subtle coup and now they are doing the slow, gentle crash landing for the Opposition?
Posted by: azjaeger at December 10, 2020 03:27 PM (3/XaG)

Sure.. that'd be great, except Harris is thusfar unscathed. Add to that there is no history of the FBI having white hats, because they only go after republicans its in their creed.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (+2xjH)

525 "Although it is not codified in law or formal guidance to U.S. Attorneys..."

So, Not Law is our new Law.

Yep. "Nation of Laws". Everyone say it. Now say it without choking.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (HhXSr)

526 500 I don't think it's Nancy behind the Biden drama..I think it is the Obama faction wanting to push Joe out and install Kamala who will basically be doing his bidding. That mincing idiot could not stand how Trump dismantled his 'legacy' so this is how he sets it right, in his mind.
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You forget Bernie's bandits. They have been screwed by the Dem Party twice in the primaries. They may be lifting scalps and killing the wounded just for the fun of it. Obama is a Wall Street Puppet. Why would he be shiving Feinstein and Swalwell?

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (T1Dne)

527 Subtle Fix for The Big Guy

Maybe too subtle to be visible on most screens.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (0CeRG)

528 Pelosi is 87. Do you honestly thinks she's in any better shape than Joe??
Posted by: notsothoreau at December 10, 2020 03:48 PM (JKNZq)


She sounds just as out of it as Sundown only with dentures that don't fit.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (y7DUB)

529 Ignoring the trolls doesn't work.

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It works for me.

Posted by: SMH at December 10, 2020 03:41 PM (RU4sa)



Yep. And after they are ozone, no trace of them remains.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (yQpMk)

530 I think Grant stayed out West after the relief of Chattanooga to work out the western command structure and to plan the 1864 campaign with Sherman. When that was done, he took a railroad trip to DC and arrived in February, 1864, to receive his commission. That's from memory, subject to abject humiliation.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (Pqytn)

531 517
I heard somewhere on the internets that SCOTUS is the first (and only)
court inter-state disputes go to, so they don't have a choice in taking
it or not.



Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (kOpft)



And if that's true then someone did their homework.

Posted by: ... at December 10, 2020 03:48 PM (LFUkn)

One day all her plastic surgeries and botox will wear off and all that will be left is a large, nasty puddle.

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (ynpvh)

532 505 488 The Republican form of government clause applies to the federal government, not the states (it benefits the states, theoretically, but they are not the ones bound by it - a state can be a fcuked-up syndicracy like CA. It has never been litigated and, IIRC, SCOTUS has said it's non-justiciable.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (KAi1n)

Dorr Rebellion case in Rhode Island, Luther v. Borden, 1849.

Posted by: There's your citation at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (BBWrU)

533 I heard somewhere on the internets that SCOTUS is the first (and only) court inter-state disputes go to, so they don't have a choice in taking it or not.

Posted by: Methos



And if that's true then someone did their homework.

Posted by: ...



The Supreme Court views their role in taking state vs. state cases in original jurisdiction as "discretionary", while the states almost uniformly take the position that the Supremes' role is "mandatory", they MUST take the case.

TX AG Ken Paxton explained this morning to Steven Crowder that if the Supremes decide not to take this case, that's it, we're done. And we'll never have a fair election again.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (BM2fS)

534 > They were going to cheat wildly anyway, so why not go for full commie?

Because the people running the scam aren't really commies. Not really. That's just the show for the yokels.

The goal is to install a permanent class of nobility, under the guise of "protecting the people".

Oh, they'll maybe give you a crappy public housing project apartment, and enough food stamps to keep from starving, but the government won't actually be "run by the proletariat", any more than the old Soviet Union was.

The word is nomenklatura.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (7Kh21)

535 506 But, I thought masks worked!

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Only if healthy people wear them.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (em09h)

...

Dammit

Posted by: Greg Abbot at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (yL25O)

536 But this being AoSHQ, I thought it was funny to pretend one of the greatest Americans to ever live would behave like a middle school girl, and the AoSHQ crowd would recognize the joke.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)

WHAT DID YOU CALL ME?!

It's been a while since I read Grant's book. Should probably give it another run.

Posted by: Adolf Eichmann at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (aKqzO)

537
Grant out west >>>Girls out west

Posted by: Or not at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (o9apC)

West End Girls?
Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (ynpvh)

No, he had it right the first time.

Posted by: fringe at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (FPur3)

538 530 Investigating the Bidens before the election would have influenced it by having to create even more fake ballots. Ol' Joe might have got 90-95 million votes.
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This. And the historical high of any president in history.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (T1Dne)

539
Now that's an interesting take, but it would require dirt on Kamala to come out-and not just that she slept with the married Mayor to get further in her political career.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:46 PM (WkPC9)

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Supposedly she participated in orgies, and somebody's got video. The Chinese I imagine, if anybody.

As far as actual criminal exposure, who knows?

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (zY6gH)

540 >> I thought masks worked!


It's a miracle!


*Falls on face*

Posted by: Greg Abbott at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (ZqSI/)

541 528 *confused face*

But, I thought masks worked!

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (O+I8R)

If the people ever wake up it's going to be glorious. Till then, not so much.
----------------------------------

They think they can save the world with a mask and a tape measure.

Posted by: Ward at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (nzKWW)

542 Joe Biden plans to create a "position that reaches out to conservatives,"

-

Head of the ATF

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (em09h)

543 One must wonder what will be revealed as "news" the day after the Inauguration.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (4BMGG)

544 I've always heard the Guarantee Clause meant that
the individual states were required to have republican forms of
government and it was the federal government's job to ensure it.



"Section 4. The United States shall guarantee to every State in this
Union a Republican Form of Government, and shall protect each of them
against Invasion; and on Application of the Legislature, or of the
Executive (when the Legislature cannot be convened) against domestic
Violence."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

We're kind of saying the same thing. The RFG clause is an obligation owed by the federal government to the states. You cannot sue your shitty state under the RFG clause.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (KAi1n)

545 'You don't indict DEMOCRAT candidates or perhaps someone that's sufficiently close to a candidate, that it's essentially the same, you know, within a certain number of days before an election.'

I may have added one word but it is obvioys what he meant

Posted by: steevy at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (wgghp)

546 TX AG Ken Paxton explained this morning to Steven Crowder that if the Supremes decide not to take this case, that's it, we're done. And we'll never have a fair election again.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (BM2fS)

wow. then what is the point to being in a union when you can't get a fair shake at having your grievances listed to and adjudicated on?

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (a0IVu)

547 I suspect that the least confrontational remedy would be that SCOTUS rules those states must have their legislatures assign their electors, rather than just send them as a bloc to the winner of the election.

How would that likely shake out?

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Would these legislatures have the courage to rightfully assign their electors to Trump? They'd need it. If it comes down to that, they will have bullseyes on their backs, as well as that of their families. It will be non-stop terrorist threats directed at them. These people mean business, and they aren't going to let go of their fraudulent "win" for anything. There's too much at stake. Again, if it comes to that, I pray they have the strength, fortitude, courage and integrity to do what needs to rightfully be done.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (O+I8R)

548 > Hillary has to be incandescent right now.

And Gaylord is probably laughing his ass off at the thought.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (7Kh21)

549 I do not like this Family Biden.
A probe will surely assholes widen.
Posted by: John Hurt in a Yurt eating Dessert at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (A4Dbz)

I do not trust them with a goat,
And trust them not with a remote.
I don't like this this Biden clan,
I do not like them, Margaret Houlihan.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (hku12)

550 Harris picks Shrillery for VP.

Guess what happens next?

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

551 Grift is a great motivator when everybody gets a commensurate share.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (WOYcU)

552 Eastern Lees and Western Grants

Posted by: Pet Shop Boys at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (FTlwv)

553 At least the rapist wore a mask.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (YltW9)

554 Off Nazi sock.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (aKqzO)

555 Pelosi is 87. Do you honestly thinks she's in any better shape than Joe??

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 10, 2020 03:48 PM (JKNZq)



Interwebs say she's 80 but that doesn't change the degree of her senility...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (ZSK0i)

556 Oh, by the way, I survived the Chinese Virus too.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (0CeRG)

557 What was Kamala's Chinese name (on SF election ballots) again?

Posted by: The spider web is large at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (BBWrU)

558 *confused face*



But, I thought masks worked!

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (O+I8R)


How would anyone know its a "confused face" when its hidden behind The Damn Mask® ?

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (C+evo)

559 Roses are red,
Violets are blue,
Joe Biden is a sleazy crook,
And his family are too ...

Posted by: Adriane the Do What They Wanna Do Critic ... at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (LPnfS)

560 Harris picks Shrillery for VP.

Guess what happens next?
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

Stolichnaya gets a no-bid $100 million dollar Federal contract?

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (aKqzO)

561 In these parts, the "rule of forbearance" says that you should have at least a .300 Win Mag or a 12 gauge loaded with slugs, in case of a bear attack.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia


Better forbearance than forsquirrel.
Won't be much left.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (fu1JC)

562 541
505 488 The Republican form of government clause applies to the federal
government, not the states (it benefits the states, theoretically, but
they are not the ones bound by it - a state can be a fcuked-up
syndicracy like CA. It has never been litigated and, IIRC, SCOTUS has
said it's non-justiciable.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (KAi1n)



Dorr Rebellion case in Rhode Island, Luther v. Borden, 1849.

Posted by: There's your citation at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (BBWrU)

I take one of my rights under the 9th and 10th amendments is to not be disenfranchised.

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 03:54 PM (ynpvh)

563 I think Grant stayed out West after the relief of Chattanooga to work out the western command structure and to plan the 1864 campaign with Sherman. When that was done, he took a railroad trip to DC and arrived in February, 1864, to receive his commission. That's from memory, subject to abject humiliation.
Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (Pqytn)
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Sounds correct to me, at least mostly. Lincoln needed him to be promoted to LTG in order to have the necessary rank over all the other MGs to take over as commander of all Federal Armies.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (Uhu8A)

564 553 We're kind of saying the same thing. The RFG clause is an obligation owed by the federal government to the states. You cannot sue your shitty state under the RFG clause.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (KAi1n)

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Then it seems like it would be a proper course of action for SCOTUS to demand redress on the part of the citizens of the state, or even other states if they are affected, if a particular state is not allowing a republican form of government through the allowance of fraud that undermines their own laws on elections.

If California wants to award its electors always to Democrats, then they need to pass that through the legislature, but until they change the laws that say that electors are awarded by popular vote, they can't just do that. But, of course, it extends beyond that elector element.

If the state is allowing and encouraging fraud in elections, then their own state governments cease to be republican, and SCOTUS should step in to make remedy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (28Eez)

565 494 I do not like this Family Biden.
A probe will surely assholes widen.

Posted by: John Hurt in a Yurt eating Dessert at December 10, 2020 03:45 PM (A4Dbz)

__________

I do not like this Ho named Harris
Sucks more than a Strepsiceros.

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (JN3C9)

566 Double-whammy. Kamala can takes over by either:1. 25th amendment2. Biden being charged with crimes related to his involvement in business dealings with his son (or China).

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (xWtao)

567 Harris picks Shrillery for VP.

Guess what happens next?
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue


Ft. Marcy Park.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (fu1JC)

568 The idea of discretionary jurisdiction seems incompatible with original jurisdiction to me. I've read that at least a couple of the current justices have indicated they think so.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (H5knJ)

569 512 It is actually not. Requiring a republican form of government implies you are not allowing fraud to dilute and steal people's votes.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner




I really wish Trump would pound on this point. The Constitution REQUIRES us to have a republican form of government, not a dictatorship of one party rule.

Also, the 14th Amendment allows Congress to eliminate house seats from states that intentionally harm their own voters' interests by diluting their votes. The problem being, of course, that Congress is owned by the Dems now.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (BM2fS)

This is why TX et. al. introduced 14-1 to the argument. Due process, equal protection and the preservation of privileges are directly impacted by state sanctioned vote fraud, and this is alleged in the suit.

And no, the Democrats do not own Congress. If they have to vote it will be by delegation, which was pwned by the Republicans before the election and is absolutely pwned by them now.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (MkuC5)

570 Someone on Twitter said she was 87 so I thought I'd just go with that. She's too old to be in charge of anything.

Posted by: notsothoreau at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (JKNZq)

571 TX AG Ken Paxton explained this morning to Steven Crowder that if the Supremes decide not to take this case, that's it, we're done. And we'll never have a fair election again.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (BM2fS)

wow. then what is the point to being in a union when you can't get a fair shake at having your grievances listed to and adjudicated on?

--

Exactly. The union, for all intents and purposes, is gone at that point. Why should states be bound by the dereliction of basic voter integrity by other states? When our national elections become a fraudulent farce, it's over. The divorce, the dissolution must happen at that point.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)

572 I think Grant stayed out West after the relief of Chattanooga to work out the western command structure and to plan the 1864 campaign with Sherman. When that was done, he took a railroad trip to DC and arrived in February, 1864, to receive his commission. That's from memory, subject to abject humiliation.
Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (Pqytn)


Sounds about right. The winter of '63/'64 was quietish.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (hku12)

573 I do not like this Ho named Harris
Sucks more than a Strepsiceros.
Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (JN3C9)

Hoerris?
Whorris?
Mistrriss?

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (aKqzO)

574 Someone on Twitter said she was 87 so I thought I'd just go with that.

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I think 87 is the number of her facelifts.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)

575 Grant did not campaign against Lee's forces until 1864, after he was promoted to Lieutenant General and put in command of all United States ground forces. (Meade continued as the official commander of the Army of the Potomac.)

Posted by: Gref at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (AMIL/)

576 I think 87 is the number of her facelifts.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)

Amount of meds required daily.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (aKqzO)

577 Yeah, we should expect something like this. It will be led by the likes of david cuck french. It will be led by a fake conservative who hates conservatives. Same old, same old Fake News op.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (SQpI/)


French better get used to whatever morsel of grift he's already receiving and damn sight better hope that his paymaster doesn't consider his usefulness expired. That would be too fucking bad, no?

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (y7DUB)

578 578 The idea of discretionary jurisdiction seems incompatible with original jurisdiction to me. I've read that at least a couple of the current justices have indicated they think so.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (H5knJ)

Obliterates the RIGHT to petition for redress.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (d9rwJ)

579 518 Harris received ZERO delegates in the primaries.

Once she is installed when Joe dies next year, Harris should forever be called:

"The Usurper, AKA President Not-Hillary Clinton".

Hillary has to be incandescent right now. They might give her a position in the new admin, but it won't be enough.
Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (BM2fS)

polled in single digits in the primaries
received zero delegates in the primaries
President of the United States of America

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (GadyI)

580 The Republican form of government clause applies to
the federal government, not the states (it benefits the states,
theoretically, but they are not the ones bound by it - a state can be a
fcuked-up syndicracy like CA. It has never been litigated and, IIRC,
SCOTUS has said it's non-justiciable.


Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:44 PM (KAi1n)

The Guarantee Clause in Article IV says the federal government must ensure that states have a republican form of government. Luther v Bordon (1849) notwithstanding, it is justiciable if the Supreme Court says it is. In fact, Baker v Carr (1962 I believe) partially limited that non-justiciabity when SCOTUS ruled that lack of redistricting in a state violated the Guarantee Clause.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (946rW)

581 I always understood that the Electoral College was created to prevent this exact situation, i.e. one in which the winning candidate was a fraud from the word go. Biden was hidden in a basement while his campaign denied every single one of his previously stated policy positions.

Now that he has "won" he is back to those very same positions they denied. Even promising to bypass Congress to get them done.

If SCOTUS doesn't invalidate his election a shooting war is inevitable. Biden has promised to abolish (for all intents and purposes) the 2nd Amendment. He has promised to force everyone he can into wearing face panties for his first 100 days. He has promised to allow unlimited immigration and amnesty for all the illegals here.

So either we win here or it has to be game on. Or lose our nation forever.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (N3El/)

582 Exactly. The union, for all intents and purposes, is gone at that point. Why should states be bound by the dereliction of basic voter integrity by other states?
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You guys sound like Confederates. Good on you.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (T1Dne)

583 Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)

I got the joke.

It didn't actually sound like something Lee would say, I would like to think that both men had some kind of respect for each other even though on opposite sides, and recognized the skill of the other military leader.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (WkPC9)

584 Huh. Back in September, 2 polling machines were stolen in GA, containing all the data of all the voters in the state. Authorities claimed the burglars probably didn't know what they were stealing - just 2 big cases on wheels.

Yeah, right.

https://tinyurl.com/y475bdzu

Posted by: David French at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (L8ADy)

585 SOCKS! STINKY SOCKS!

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (L8ADy)

586 Pelosi is 83 I thinks

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:59 PM (GIeIM)

587 According to Mark Levin the other night, SCOTUS can throw it out. And he is pretty sure they will.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 10, 2020 03:59 PM (buTO7)

588 Exactly. The union, for all intents and purposes, is gone at that point. Why should states be bound by the dereliction of basic voter integrity by other states? When our national elections become a fraudulent farce, it's over. The divorce, the dissolution must happen at that point.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)

Can't say I disagree. I honestly think that would be a much healthier option than what everyone goes through every election cycle.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 03:59 PM (a0IVu)

589 535 500 I don't think it's Nancy behind the Biden drama..I think it is the Obama faction wanting to push Joe out and install Kamala who will basically be doing his bidding. That mincing idiot could not stand how Trump dismantled his 'legacy' so this is how he sets it right, in his mind.
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You forget Bernie's bandits. They have been screwed by the Dem Party twice in the primaries. They may be lifting scalps and killing the wounded just for the fun of it. Obama is a Wall Street Puppet. Why would he be shiving Feinstein and Swalwell?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM (T1Dne)
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Biden was the place holder, the "generic democrat" to vote for. The fight has already been fought. Bernie lost once again to the Obamaites when Harris was picked.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 03:59 PM (G0vdT)

590 Kamala will last about as long as Willie Brown after a night of kamikazes and a Market Street handjob.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (WOYcU)

591 I think 87 is the number of her facelifts.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)

=============================
Or it could be the number of times she went to the hair salon since the Wuhan Flu outbreak.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (Pqytn)

592 And no, the Democrats do not own Congress. If they have to vote it will be by delegation, which was pwned by the Republicans before the election and is absolutely pwned by them now.
Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 03:55 PM (MkuC5)

Don't forget that the WY House delegation is Liz Cheney, not a sure R-vote.

Posted by: Contingent election analyst at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (BBWrU)

593 We're kind of saying the same thing. The RFG clause is an obligation
owed by the federal government to the states. You cannot sue your shitty
state under the RFG clause.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (KAi1n)


You actually can.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (946rW)

594 559 Harris picks Shrillery for VP.

Guess what happens next?

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:53 PM (Ed8Zd)

__________

Harris didn't kill herself via post-traumatic hyoid syndrome.

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (JN3C9)

595 Kamala would have to be a utter nutcase with a death wish to pick crazy Hillary as VP.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (WkPC9)

596
PA Supreme Court said, "nah, nah, too bad, you people complaining about
the unconstitutional expansion of mail-in voting in PA waited too long
to complain about it, so tough titties."

This is the kind of shit that really pisses people off. If you had filed a lawsuit before the election some asshoe judge would say, "You haven't been harmed yet, case dismissed." Now after the election they play the "You waited too long" scam.
Another one is the "You don't have standing" to bring a lawsuit. As Lin Wood said after some judged dismissed his lawsuit for lack of "standing", "I'm a resident and legal voter of the State Of Georgia, what do they mean I don't have standing, every Georgia voter has standing."

Posted by: Killer Cuomo at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (rQ/Vt)

597 So either we win here or it has to be game on. Or lose our nation forever.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (N3El/)

How is the new dog?

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (MkuC5)

598 Pelosi is 83 I thinks
Posted by: will choose a nic later



80. Born 1940.
Same year as my mom. R. I. P.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (fu1JC)

599 They were going to cheat wildly anyway, so why not go for full commie?
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (Ed8Zd)


This one puzzles me. Bernie probably has the most support among Dems, at least the most enthusiasm. The only explanation I can come up with is that while he is very good at receiving graft, he's not so good at generating graft for others.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (ofYez)

600 Grant did not campaign against Lee's forces until 1864, after he was promoted to Lieutenant General and put in command of all United States ground forces. (Meade continued as the official commander of the Army of the Potomac.)

Posted by: Gref at December 10, 2020 03:57 PM (AMIL/)


Poor George. Imagine what that must have been like, having your boss riding in a saddle right next to you all the time.

Meade would give a command, and all his lieutenants would look over at Grant, and he'd nod ascent as subtly as possible, and everyone would say "Right then! We're on it!!"

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (hku12)

601 334 If those 4 States don't send Electors at all, Trump wins outright.
Posted by: Romeo13

--

I don't think that is correct, I see 232 Trump 244 Biden without the four.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada

Probably means that Arizona or Nevada is going to Trump by another means so didn't need to be in the case.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (kfcYC)

602 Pelosi is 83 I thinks
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:59 PM (GIeIM)


82

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (8k7U7)

603 Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 03:51 PM (BM2fS)

Who makes the call? Does the Chief Justice do it solo, or do they take a vote and the majority rules?

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (5XK0y)

604 According to Mark Levin the other night, SCOTUS can throw it out. And he is pretty sure they will.

--

Then what good are they? Where we find ourselves as a nation at this very moment is likely the single, most critical juncture America finds itself. We're at a fork. We either survive as a Republic or we die a socialist hellhole, untethered in all ways to the Constitution. If they don't take the case, they are just worthless.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (O+I8R)

605 eh. pessimistic me thinks SCOTUS will disappoint us. Thomas, Alito, et al included.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (a0IVu)

606 Hopefully Nevada, Minnesota and Virginia will be pulling their names of the Amici list soon because they will be defendants.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 03:07 PM (946rW)

God willing

Posted by: I am Pasquinel & I am not afraid to say TRUMP WON at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (9FPyp)

607 Don't forget that the WY House delegation is Liz Cheney, not a sure R-vote.
Posted by: Contingent election analyst at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (BBWrU)


Of all the backstabbers she surprised me the most. Particularly after DJT came to the rescue of Scooter Libby more so than that tongue tied turd W.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (y7DUB)

608 Poor George. Imagine what that must have been like, having your boss riding in a saddle right next to you all the time.

Meade would give a command, and all his lieutenants would look over at Grant, and he'd nod ascent as subtly as possible, and everyone would say "Right then! We're on it!!"
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (hku12)
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Meade got really frustrated by it. That was one of the things that led to the disaster at Cold Harbor.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (Uhu8A)

609 I argue with Redbeanz a lot on particulars (being that lawyering is my profession, sadly), but our general sentiments are similar and she's got more testosterone flowing through her veins than our XY pants-shitters.

The most fundamental essence and purpose of the United States Constitution - The Greatest Document Ever Written - is that it provides a framework for self-governance for an independent people who believe that that framework best effects the Declaration of Independence.

It IS NOT an agonizer we carry around to be disciplined with at the will of any overlord.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (KAi1n)

610 Don't forget that the WY House delegation is Liz Cheney, not a sure R-vote.

Posted by: Contingent election analyst at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (BBWrU)

__________


If she did that, she'd be safer in Beijing than Wyoming. Just sayin' ...

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (JN3C9)

611 Pennsylvania officials on Thursday filed a blistering brief at the Supreme Court rebuking the Texas lawsuit seeking to overturn President Donald Trump's defeat in Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, casting the move as using a "cacophony of bogus claims" to support a "seditious abuse of the judicial process."

I see we are at the "pound the table" stage, after "pound them with the law" has failed.

Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (3aI0K)

612 615 eh. pessimistic me thinks SCOTUS will disappoint us. Thomas, Alito, et al included.
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (a0IVu)

=========

I'm not terribly optimistic either, but I have crossed a couple of fingers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (LvTSG)

613 Nancy Pelosi
b - March 26, 1940.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (fu1JC)

614 Wisconsin trial
https://youtu.be/aKcxHTr_Xwo
State lawyer talking

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (buTO7)

615 Pelosi is 83 I thinks
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 10, 2020 03:59 PM (GIeIM)


82
Posted by: WeBoned! at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (8k7U7)



How old is she in Botox years?

Posted by: Hands at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (786Ro)

616 BREAKING IN TEXAS SCOTUS LAWSUIT
ALASKA, IDAHO, 105 U.S. Representatives files amicus brief in support of >

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (ZR7kf)

617 >>> I think 87 is the number of her facelifts.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)

=============================
Or it could be the number of times she went to the hair salon since the Wuhan Flu outbreak.
Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (Pqytn)

========

Diane Feinstein is 87

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (HSzKG)

618
You forget Bernie's bandits. They have been screwed by the Dem Party twice in the primaries. They may be lifting scalps and killing the wounded just for the fun of it.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM


oh, yes, very much this

TBH, I stoke that fire every time I run in to a Bernie Bro (and they are legion around The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor)

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (DUIap)

619 Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)

I got the joke.

It didn't actually sound like something Lee would say, I would like to think that both men had some kind of respect for each other even though on opposite sides, and recognized the skill of the other military leader.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (WkPC9)


Yes, I mentioned the other day, the story about when W.T. Sherman died, his former enemy in the field, Joseph E. Johnston served as a pallbearer.

Johnston was quite old by then, but had otherwise been in adequate health. He developed pneumonia after the cold day of serving in that role though, and died not long thereafter.

When asked at the time why he would serve as a pallbearer for his former foe, and remember, Sherman was about as hated as anyone could be in the South, Johnston's reply was essentially "He would have done the same for me."

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (hku12)

620 According to Mark Levin the other night, SCOTUS can throw it out. And he is pretty sure they will.

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Then what good are they? Where we find ourselves as a nation at this very moment is likely the single, most critical juncture America finds itself. We're at a fork. We either survive as a Republic or we die a socialist hellhole, untethered in all ways to the Constitution. If they don't take the case, they are just worthless.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (O+I8R)


Then end all judicial review period. If they can't rule on this after changing legislation on Gaylordcare they're an unconstitutional abomination.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (y7DUB)

621 They were going to cheat wildly anyway, so why not go for full commie?
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 10, 2020 03:47 PM (Ed8Zd)

This one puzzles me. Bernie probably has the most support among Dems, at least the most enthusiasm. The only explanation I can come up with is that while he is very good at receiving graft, he's not so good at generating graft for others.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (ofYez)

IMO Bernie's followers are true believers. The Dems don't want true believers, because they do stuff like actually go against the corporate slush fund graft-and-bribery trough. Granted, in many cases they're just doing it to take it for themselves, but the point is they make waves.

Posted by: Vanya, Minister of Fear at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (aKqzO)

622 629 When asked at the time why he would serve as a pallbearer for his former foe, and remember, Sherman was about as hated as anyone could be in the South, Johnston's reply was essentially "He would have done the same for me."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (hku12

========

*nods sagaciously*

Uniparty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (LvTSG)

623 I just can't see SCOTUS throwing out this election even though it was fraudulent

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (Zmnko)

624 623 Nancy Pelosi
b - March 26, 1940.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (fu1JC)

You always know when she's had fresh botox done..zero wrinkles, looks like a 50 year old. one month later, she is back to looking like the crypt keeper.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (a0IVu)

625 Your average TV journalist is about as insightful as a can of hairspray, and almost as smart.

Posted by: simplemind at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (znRr8)

626 542 I heard somewhere on the internets that SCOTUS is the first (and only) court inter-state disputes go to, so they don't have a choice in taking it or not.

Posted by: Methos



And if that's true then someone did their homework.

Posted by: ...



The Supreme Court views their role in taking state vs. state cases in original jurisdiction as "discretionary", while the states almost uniformly take the position that the Supremes' role is "mandatory", they MUST take the case.

TX AG Ken Paxton explained this morning to Steven Crowder that if the Supremes decide not to take this case, that's it, we're done. And we'll never have a fair election again.
Posted by: Sharkman

But the future SCOTUS potlucks will be ruined with all the vegan and vegetarian casseroles brought by the 12 new Justices. The existing 9 won't want that.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (kfcYC)

627 China's nickname for Eric Fartswell is Little Rice Dick.

Posted by: Trump Won Bigly at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (pNQ9j)

628 Seen on the Twitter machine:

I identify as transmaskual. Not all non-gendered beings who wear masks wear masks.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (XeEyo)

629 No. If a candidate does not reach 270 EVs, then the election is thrown into the House.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ufFY8)

630 Even if SCOTUS gives Trump a win and says "its up to the legislatures" Just how may of these legislatures are going to vote for Trump, against the popular vote as fraudulent as they are?

Your forgetting, politicians, for the most part, are cowards.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (G0vdT)

631 CW2 states continue to line up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (r+sAi)

632 At this point it would be a dereliction of duty for SCOTUS to throw out Texas' case without considering the merits.

The country has split down the middle on this and every minute more people file amicus briefs in support of one side or the other.

I know John Roberts is a cuck but if he cares anything about the integrity of the court, he can't be a whimp here.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ZR7kf)

633 Yes, I mentioned the other day, the story about when W.T. Sherman died, his former enemy in the field, Joseph E. Johnston served as a pallbearer.

Johnston was quite old by then, but had otherwise been in adequate health. He developed pneumonia after the cold day of serving in that role though, and died not long thereafter.

When asked at the time why he would serve as a pallbearer for his former foe, and remember, Sherman was about as hated as anyone could be in the South, Johnston's reply was essentially "He would have done the same for me."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (hku12)
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I believe they had never met face to face until they were negotiating the surrender of the Army of Tennessee. They became quite good friends after the war.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (Uhu8A)

634 re: Georgia Brief

These grifting Chinese-owned motherfucking motherfuckers will be lucky if they are only burned in effigy.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (naieP)

635 642 At this point it would be a dereliction of duty for SCOTUS to throw out Texas' case without considering the merits.

The country has split down the middle on this and every minute more people file amicus briefs in support of one side or the other.

I know John Roberts is a cuck but if he cares anything about the integrity of the court, he can't be a whimp here.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ZR7kf)

=========

"I have spent 20 years trying to keep us apolitical!"
-Roberts

"Great job, champ..."
-The other 8, all doing the jerk off motion

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (LvTSG)

636 Poor George. Imagine what that must have been like, having your boss riding in a saddle right next to you all the time.

Meade would give a command, and all his lieutenants would look over at Grant, and he'd nod ascent as subtly as possible, and everyone would say "Right then! We're on it!!"
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (hku12)
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Meade got really frustrated by it. That was one of the things that led to the disaster at Cold Harbor.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (Uhu8A)


Yeah, in spite of my goofy telling here, it must have really been difficult to be in his position.

I read a biography of Meade some time ago. Don't remember much about it. The biography was rather dry and boring. Which, given that it was a biography of Meade, is fitting.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (hku12)

637 BREAKING IN TEXAS SCOTUS LAWSUIT
ALASKA, IDAHO, 105 U.S. Representatives files amicus brief in support of >

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (ZR7kf)


Amicus! Amicus! Get yer Amicus Curiae briefs here!

Posted by: Hands - CWII Paraphrenlia street vendor at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (786Ro)

638 Is Bernie tied to China/Chinese $? He strikes me as a true believer and not someone who's necessarily buyable.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (KAi1n)

639 I fully expect Roberts to vote the election as a tax. Pay up suckers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (r+sAi)

640 As Lin Wood said after some judged dismissed his lawsuit for lack of "standing", "I'm a resident and legal voter of the State Of Georgia, what do they mean I don't have standing, every Georgia voter has standing."
Posted by: Killer Cuomo at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (rQ/Vt)


With that statement and six dollars he can have a big latte at Starbucks.

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (ZfRYq)

641 They're not admitting fraud. They are saying that accepting Texas's position for the sake of argument, it is wrong on its face.

***

See this is why we lose political arguments. Yes, that is why they are making the argument. But every single American Patriot should be screaming "they admit it was fraud but say it doesn't matter". Make the case in the easiest way possible for the audience you are trying to reach, getting lost in nuance a la Romney 2012 gets you nowhere.


Also that is the official Democrat/GOPe/FNM line now anyway. Whether we cheated or not doesn't matter - SCOREBOAD F*CKERS!


Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (qlFIA)

642 Then what good are they? Where we find ourselves as a nation at this very moment is likely the single, most critical juncture America finds itself. We're at a fork. We either survive as a Republic or we die a socialist hellhole, untethered in all ways to the Constitution. If they don't take the case, they are just worthless.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (O+I8R)


They would be sabotaging their own careers if they don't take it.

Posted by: WeBoned! at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (8k7U7)

643 Re: scotus taking the TX case:

I think they have to, at least to then write down why they find that TX has no relief available from SCOTUS.

Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (XeEyo)

644 This one puzzles me. Bernie probably has the most support among Dems, at least the most enthusiasm. The only explanation I can come up with is that while he is very good at receiving graft, he's not so good at generating graft for others.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 10, 2020 04:01 PM (ofYez)

I think the issue with Bernie is that he actually believes some of his tripe. Don't get me wrong, he's as corrupt as the day is long, but there's actually a shred of badly-warped good intent in there under the self-service.

He wouldn't build anything that would work, but what they're afraid of is that the system he would build wouldn't have hereditary privilege for them and theirs.

Posted by: Cato, Nemo me impune lacessit at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (Msrhc)

645 633 I just can't see SCOTUS throwing out this election even though it was fraudulent
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (Zmnko)


++++++++

No one is asking them to. Texas' suit asks them to (1) admit the law wasn't followed, and (2) force the states to uphold the constitution by sending their own electors.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (ZR7kf)

646 According to Mark Levin the other night, SCOTUS can throw it out. And he is pretty sure they will.



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Mark Levin also worked himself into a snit fit because he thought the PA case had been dismissed when it wasn't. I think he is wrong here too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (946rW)

647 Honey, why does your dick taste like dim sum?

Posted by: Erick Fartswell's Wife at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (sOXXq)

648 I know John Roberts is a cuck but if he cares anything about the integrity of the court, he can't be a whimp here.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ZR7kf)

I have not yet begun to cuck!

Posted by: John Roberts at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (aKqzO)

649 651 See this is why we lose political arguments. Yes, that is why they are making the argument. But every single American Patriot should be screaming "they admit it was fraud but say it doesn't matter". Make the case in the easiest way possible for the audience you are trying to reach, getting lost in nuance a la Romney 2012 gets you nowhere.


Also that is the official Democrat/GOPe/FNM line now anyway. Whether we cheated or not doesn't matter - SCOREBOAD F*CKERS!


Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (qlFIA)

==========

The left tries to get law school professors fired over rhetorical questions in class.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (LvTSG)

650 So either we win here or it has to be game on. Or lose our nation forever.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 03:58 PM (N3El/)


Yeah. If SCOTUS says to Texas that there ain't nothing it can do, it's a political task left to the States to take care of their own voting corruption problems, it's game over. If there is a corrupt executive branch down to the voting precinct level, and corrupt local and state judges who bless that corruption, then if SCOTUS can give the State's citizens no redress of grievance, the only remaining option is intra-state Civil War.

Posted by: Gref at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (AMIL/)

651
If Kamala becomes POTUS this way,
Americans who voted R got taken;
*and* Americans who voted for Biden got taken

That leaves a very small number of Americans who will be happy with that.

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (GadyI)

652 what's an amicus? can I file one? I want to join the party too.

Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (a0IVu)

653
"I have spent 20 years trying to keep us apolitical!"

***

And the time to have done that was when the PA case originally came to them.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (qlFIA)

654 Yes, I mentioned the other day, the story about when W.T. Sherman died, his former enemy in the field, Joseph E. Johnston served as a pallbearer.

Johnston was quite old by then, but had otherwise been in adequate health. He developed pneumonia after the cold day of serving in that role though, and died not long thereafter.

When asked at the time why he would serve as a pallbearer for his former foe, and remember, Sherman was about as hated as anyone could be in the South, Johnston's reply was essentially "He would have done the same for me."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (hku12)
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I believe they had never met face to face until they were negotiating the surrender of the Army of Tennessee. They became quite good friends after the war.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Laird o' the Sea at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (Uhu8A)


Perhaps an understatement to rival all understatements, it was a different time, and men were different than they are today. At least the leaders.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (hku12)

655 628
You forget Bernie's bandits. They have been screwed by the Dem Party twice in the primaries. They may be lifting scalps and killing the wounded just for the fun of it.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 03:50 PM

oh, yes, very much this

TBH, I stoke that fire every time I run in to a Bernie Bro (and they are legion around The Peoples' Republik of AnnArbor)
----------------------
Well, they are the only ones left in the Dem Party that wants a Nation State instead of Open Borders Barter Town. They are serious people in that respect. And they've seen their votes NOT COUNT twice. This makes it THREE TIMES.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (T1Dne)

656 Georgia response: " We recounted THREE TIMES and also Muh RONAS"


I have not the curses nor the words to express my fury at the self-representing runny dogshit hacks.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (naieP)

657 I know John Roberts is a cuck but if he cares anything about the integrity of the court, he can't be a whimp here.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ZR7kf)

....

If he cares about the potential for 31 million dead and rivers choked with blood he can't be a wimp here.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (yL25O)

658 615 eh. pessimistic me thinks SCOTUS will disappoint us. Thomas, Alito, et al included.
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (a0IVu)

>>>SCOTUS will disappoint us
It's almost a poem.

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (GadyI)

659 639 No. If a candidate does not reach 270 EVs, then the election is thrown into the House.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (ufFY

++++++++

It depends. If PA doesn't send electors then the number needed drops from 270 to 260.

The winner is decided by whoever has the majority of the votes cast, if a state doesn't send electors then they aren't sending votes to be cast. This was seen in the election of 1864.

Once their cast, someone has to win the majority or it goes to the US House to vote.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (ZR7kf)

660 663
"I have spent 20 years trying to keep us apolitical!"

***

And the time to have done that was when the PA case originally came to them.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (qlFIA)

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The time to have done that was the ACA when he suddenly invented a tax to keep Barack Obama's dream legislation that enriched insurance industry plutocrats alive.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (LvTSG)

661 The most fundamental essence and purpose of the United States Constitution - The Greatest Document Ever Written - is that it provides a framework for self-governance for an independent people who believe that that framework best effects the Declaration of Independence.

___________


I've heard someone (perhaps Dennis Prager and possibly quoting someone else) make this analogy:

. the Declaration of Independence is akin to the Mission Statement of the USA; and

. The US Constitution is akin to the Owners (or Operating) Manual.

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (JN3C9)

662 517 I heard somewhere on the internets that SCOTUS is the first (and only) court inter-state disputes go to, so they don't have a choice in taking it or not.

Posted by: Methos at December 10, 2020 03:40 PM (kOpft)

And if that's true then someone did their homework.
__________________

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not true.

The SCOTUS can decline to take the TX case.

A lot of people here, and elsewhere, think that Supreme Court jurisdiction in disputes between states is mandatory, but that's not currently the law.

And yes, I know what the constitution says. But the Supreme Court has held that its jurisdiction in cases between states is discretionary, not mandatory (despite what the constitution says). And that is the controlling precedent.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (k4dH2)

663 >>>2, this stupid cvck does not in fact get it,

Or. This stupid cvck does in fact get it and is only pretending to be worried about it because he actually supports it.

Posted by: mikethemoose at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (Y6UV7)

664 >>>You always know when she's had fresh botox done..zero wrinkles, looks like a 50 year old. one month later, she is back to looking like the crypt keeper.

The only time I've seen that much moisturizer on a woman's face is after a session at the bukkake bathhouse.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (WOYcU)

665 Maybe the dims are doing a musical chairs with their ineffectual leaders. Except they get canceled.

See here, it's like this:

Dims and Jill run. Run dims run. Shut up Jill. See dims steal? Steal dims steal.

See Spot not look? Not look Spot. Not look. See Spot look? Die Spot die.

the finish

Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (YltW9)

666 655 633 I just can't see SCOTUS throwing out this election even though it was fraudulent
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (Zmnko)
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I'm with you Donna. The very best we can expect is "yeah, these states didn't follow their own law but....Laches!"

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (G0vdT)

667 Federal courts don't seem to have any problems striking down a state's Voter ID law. As a resident of NC, I know this.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (Pqytn)

668 672 Sorry to burst your bubble, but it's not true.

The SCOTUS can decline to take the TX case.

A lot of people here, and elsewhere, think that Supreme Court jurisdiction in disputes between states is mandatory, but that's not currently the law.

And yes, I know what the constitution says. But the Supreme Court has held that its jurisdiction in cases between states is discretionary, not mandatory (despite what the constitution says). And that is the controlling precedent.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (k4dH2)

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It does only take 4 to accept the case, though.

I think they can get to 4 easy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (LvTSG)

669 662 what's an amicus? can I file one? I want to join the party too.
------------------
Its like a dildo but bigger.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (T1Dne)

670 I know the bench likes to legislate. But this seems to be random bureaucrats violating their state constitutions. Democrats love the idea but the Supremes should be upholding the legal way to make these changes.

Posted by: Notsothoreau - look forward at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (tePUo)

671 I don't think that is correct, I see 232 Trump 244 Biden without the four.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada

Not even remotely relevant.

If SCOTUS rules against the defendants, I am doubtful they will do so in a way that prevents the impacted State Houses from choosing electors. In no case will those electors be acceptable to everyone.

Ultimately, regardless who goes to DC with the plurality, when the vote goes to the US House it will be bare knuckles and blade weapons before a final winner is picked. In any case, the left will resort to vileness never before seen and turned up to 11 if the republicans flex their superior political muscle to force the issue.

Based on the level of bellicosity openly spewing from the left, and the level of aggrieved status being expressed on the right, the pregame show for CW2 will start shortly thereafter.

The only thing in doubt is who's the home team and who has to worry about getting droned.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (MkuC5)

672 You know who's the biggest cuck in all of this? Bernie.
Coulda been a contendah.

Posted by: wth at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (v0R5T)

673 Yeah. If SCOTUS says to Texas that there ain't nothing it can do, it's a
political task left to the States to take care of their own voting
corruption problems
***

If they make that argument, isn't it saying "You the people need to physically stop the illegal electors and send your own"?

I hope they think very, very carefully about that.


There will be bloodshed no matter how the SC rules, but there will be a lot less, especially in the long term, if they rule for Trump.

Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (qlFIA)

674 The Guarantee Clause in Article IV says the federal
government must ensure that states have a republican form of government.
Luther v Bordon (1849) notwithstanding, it is justiciable if the
Supreme Court says it is. [snip]


Posted by: redbanz

Finally, someone else recognizes that SCOTUS is in plenary land here. Precedent is a guide - law shouldn't be akin to a craps table. But it's just a guide.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (KAi1n)

675 Even if SCOTUS gives Trump a win and says "its up to
the legislatures" Just how may of these legislatures are going to vote
for Trump, against the popular vote as fraudulent as they are?



Your forgetting, politicians, for the most part, are cowards.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:06 PM (G0vdT)


You mean the "popular vote" that SCOTUS will have JUST told them was too fraudulent to stand? With three of them having already held hearing which made it patently clear that it was the Dems who cheated their asses off?

I am not particularly worried about that.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (946rW)

676 591 ...
If SCOTUS doesn't invalidate his election a shooting war is inevitable. ...
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum)

Wrong, large-scale secession by red states starting next week with Texas would be unavoidable. There would however be lots of pockets of shooting during the initial door-to-door gun confiscation period.

Do you see the Blue parts of New York State attacking the red parts of New York State or other red states? PA? Look at a map. Everywhere the Dems are surrounded by patriotic 2nd amendment enthusiasts.

This is just my prediction. What thinkest thou?

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (kfcYC)

677 679 662 what's an amicus? can I file one? I want to join the party too.
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Its like a dildo but bigger.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (T1Dne)

...

C'mon, no.

It's that pulpit thing with the steps that they read the bible from.

Posted by: TexasDan at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (yL25O)

678 I'm with you Donna. The very best we can expect is "yeah, these states didn't follow their own law but....Laches!"
-----------------------
Laches or no Laches the remedy is still the State Legislature voting the Electors. This is why we have representatives to do the heavy lifting.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (T1Dne)

679 The US Constitution is written as a grant of authority from the people to the federal government. The underlying premise of a grant is that it can be revoked by the grantee.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (xfb67)

680 Also EC votes Monday so tick rock.

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (ZfRYq)

681 689 The US Constitution is written as a grant of authority from the people to the federal government. The underlying premise of a grant is that it can be revoked by the grantee.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (xfb67)

==========

"Huh...do tell us more..."
-The South, 1860

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

682 They really should let Jill reprise the role of Edith Wilson a few weeks before they install Kamalho. A woman, scorn etc.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (OneoG)

683 Re: scotus taking the TX case:

I think they have to, at least to then write down why they find that TX has no relief available from SCOTUS.
Posted by: DoublySymmetric (iPad) at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (XeEyo)

+++++++

As with everything, it's all in how you define your terms.

What do you mean by "take the case."

It is docketed. They have to take it and decide if it has standing to be heard. States can sue each other for anything and it has to be resolved by SCOTUS but 99.999% of them are never considered by SCOTUS for more than a microsecond because they see immediately that it's a lawsuit with no constitutional merit.

So we're all just waiting to see if the court will say "nah, Texas has no right to sue here." or if they'll say "okay, let's have a hearing and talk this out."

If it's the former, ammo up.
If it's the latter, we move on to the next argument.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (ZR7kf)

684 627
>>> I think 87 is the number of her facelifts.



Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 03:56 PM (O+I8R)



=============================

Or it could be the number of times she went to the hair salon since the Wuhan Flu outbreak.

Posted by: mrp at December 10, 2020 04:00 PM (Pqytn)



========



Diane Feinstein is 87

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 10, 2020 04:03 PM (HSzKG)

Waiting on the Playboy spread on those two.../sarc

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (ynpvh)

685 Thanks autocorrect.

Tick tock

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (ZfRYq)

686 When asked at the time why he would serve as a pallbearer for his former foe, and remember, Sherman was about as hated as anyone could be in the South, Johnston's reply was essentially "He would have done the same for me."
Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (hku12

========

*nods sagaciously*

Uniparty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (LvTSG)


Bah!

Actually, Sherman's brother was a quite powerful Senator. Republican.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (hku12)

687 It does only take 4 to accept the case, though.



I think they can get to 4 easy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

4 to take the case and the other 5 to rule against the plaintiff/petitioner. Happens.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (KAi1n)

688
The SCOTUS can decline to take the TX case.

***

SCOTUS can do *whatever* it wants here, as long as 5 judges agree. Thanks do decades of legislation from the bench there are no restrictions on what the SC can rule.


Now, what governors, legislators, and we the people do in response to their ruling is of course an open question.


Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (qlFIA)

689 And no, the Democrats do not own Congress. If they have to vote it will be by delegation, which was pwned by the Republicans before the election and is absolutely pwned by them now.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG



I was talking about Congress's power to remove a state's representatives if that state violates the 14th and dilutes its own vote, which I think would be a vote on a bill in the House by individual members.

I hope I'm wrong and you're right that such a situation and that it would be a vote by delegation.

Posted by: Sharkman at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (BM2fS)

690 If I had to put down money, I'd say they take the case but then dodge the merits on nonjusticiability grounds or something like that in an effort to be apolitical and ensure these kinds of suits are never filed in the Supreme Court again. If they do, they deserve to be packed by Biden.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (H5knJ)

691 The MSM INCLUDING FAUX NEWS along with social media corrupted this Election to the poinnt that would make the chicoms and ruskies blush with embarrasement. Fuckin crooks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (tsZQ+)

692 Mark Levin also worked himself into a snit fit because he thought the PA case had been dismissed when it wasn't. I think he is wrong here too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (946rW)
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True. I'd feel a lot better if it was "Judge" Nepolitano making the prediction. Then I'd know that the opposite will happen.

Posted by: Jimco Industries at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (buTO7)

693 The Court will do nothing

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (tsZQ+)

694 I'm just resigning myself to the fact that biden will, however briefly , be president...

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (Zmnko)

695 We either survive as a Republic or we die a socialist hellhole, untethered in all ways to the Constitution. If they don't take the case, they are just worthless.

Posted by: Lady in Black at December 10, 2020 04:02 PM (O+I8R)

A lot of us vets are saying "no" to this nation becoming a socialist hellhole.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (N3El/)

696
If PA doesn't send electors then the number needed drops from 270 to 260.


Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (ZR7kf)


No, the Constitution says to be elected a candidate must get a majority of the total number of Electors, not a majority of Electors qualified and casting votes. So, 270 is the requirement.

Posted by: Gref at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (AMIL/)

697 691 689 The US Constitution is written as a grant of authority from the people to the federal government. The underlying premise of a grant is that it can be revoked by the grantee.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (xfb67)

==========

"Huh...do tell us more..."
-The South, 1860
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (LvTSG)

The only realistic way to repeal it would be via an Article V convention. An amendment could be passed dissolving the Constitution, and at that point, the states have no more legal connection or obligation to each other, save that which they might see fit to erect afterwards.

Posted by: Cato, Nemo me impune lacessit at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (Msrhc)

698 686 591 ...
If SCOTUS doesn't invalidate his election a shooting war is inevitable. ...
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum)

Wrong, large-scale secession by red states starting next week with Texas would be unavoidable. There would however be lots of pockets of shooting during the initial door-to-door gun confiscation period.

Do you see the Blue parts of New York State attacking the red parts of New York State or other red states? PA? Look at a map. Everywhere the Dems are surrounded by patriotic 2nd amendment enthusiasts.

This is just my prediction. What thinkest thou?
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Two outcomes are probable; 1) Dirty War, 2) Everyone Cheats with Ballots. This is an "and" not an "or" formula.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (T1Dne)

699 697 It does only take 4 to accept the case, though.



I think they can get to 4 easy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison

4 to take the case and the other 5 to rule against the plaintiff/petitioner. Happens.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (KAi1n)

==========

Of course, but taking the case seems hopeful to me.

The Left wants SCOTUS to stay out of this. It's the path of least resistance to a Biden win.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (LvTSG)

700
nood

Posted by: AltonJackson at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (DUIap)

701 Scotus will have to come down with something clear and not too confusing.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (kfcYC)

702 662
what's an amicus?



Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 04:09 PM (a0IVu)

$20. Same as in town.

Posted by: flounder at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (KnJdm)

703 I don't think that is correct, I see 232 Trump 244 Biden without the four.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada



Not even remotely relevant.



If SCOTUS rules against the defendants, I am doubtful they will do
so in a way that prevents the impacted State Houses from choosing
electors. In no case will those electors be acceptable to everyone.



Ultimately, regardless who goes to DC with the plurality, when the
vote goes to the US House it will be bare knuckles and blade weapons
before a final winner is picked. In any case, the left will resort to
vileness never before seen and turned up to 11 if the republicans flex
their superior political muscle to force the issue.



Based on the level of bellicosity openly spewing from the left, and
the level of aggrieved status being expressed on the right, the pregame
show for CW2 will start shortly thereafter.



The only thing in doubt is who's the home team and who has to worry about getting droned.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (MkuC5)

Also it will not be 232 Trump, 244 Biden. If electors get tossed in PA, GA, WI and MI on the ground pled, electors from VA, NV and AZ are tossed too on the same grounds.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (946rW)

704 I don't think SCOTUS failing to hear TX case is the trigger.

But it will come.

Posted by: blaster at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (ZfRYq)

705 John Roberts, Fox News, chief WH correspondent
John Roberts, SCOTUS, Chief Justice

Scope for confusion.

Posted by: m at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (GadyI)

706 NOOD SNL something something.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 10, 2020 04:16 PM (L8ADy)

707 662 what's an amicus? can I file one? I want to join the party too.
_________________

You can't file one unless the court first gives you permission, and they wouldn't read it anyway (even if they granted you leave to file one, which they wouldn't), so why bother paying the filing fees?

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 04:16 PM (k4dH2)

708
My friends, we can work with this good man, James Biden.

Posted by: Zombie John McCain at December 10, 2020 04:16 PM (rQ/Vt)

709 704 I'm just resigning myself to the fact that biden will, however briefly , be president...
Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2020 04:14 PM (Zmnko)

He will never be President of the United States of America.

If he is "President", he will be the leader of America-in-name-only.

He will never be legitimate, because a stolen election cannot confer legitimacy, legitimacy can only come from the consent of the governed.

Posted by: Cato, Nemo me impune lacessit at December 10, 2020 04:16 PM (Msrhc)

710 Roll dem bones!

Posted by: zombie RBG at December 10, 2020 04:16 PM (UDapT)

711 659
651 See this is why we lose political arguments. Yes, that is why they
are making the argument. But every single American Patriot should be
screaming "they admit it was fraud but say it doesn't matter". Make the
case in the easiest way possible for the audience you are trying to
reach, getting lost in nuance a la Romney 2012 gets you nowhere.





Also that is the official Democrat/GOPe/FNM line now anyway. Whether we cheated or not doesn't matter - SCOREBOAD F*CKERS!





Posted by: 18-1 at December 10, 2020 04:07 PM (qlFIA)



==========



The left tries to get law school professors fired over rhetorical questions in class.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:08 PM (LvTSG)

The touchdown doesn't count if there were too many players on the field for the scoring team.

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 04:17 PM (ynpvh)

712 The WI brief is a very clever shell game.

I'm a little impressed.

For each point they attack Texas, they cleverly and subtlely mis-state what Texas argued then they attack that while saying a whole different set of laws apply.

But, this is key: They are absolutely terrified the SCOTUS will grant TX standing-- That's where they really pound the table and yell

Because granting TX standing doesn't just return this election-- it makes a whole shitload of election fraud they were able to hide behind home-court judges federal issues.

They are scared fucking shirtless right now

Posted by: RoyalOil at December 10, 2020 04:17 PM (HvQej)

713 what's an amicus?
___________

Friend of the court.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 04:17 PM (k4dH2)

714
"Huh...do tell us more..."

-The South, 1860

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:13 PM (LvTSG)



The only realistic way to repeal it would be via an Article V
convention. An amendment could be passed dissolving the Constitution,
and at that point, the states have no more legal connection or
obligation to each other, save that which they might see fit to erect
afterwards.

Posted by: Cato, Nemo me impune lacessit at December 10, 2020 04:15 PM (Msrhc)


Nah, bra... state have the right to secede and the might makes right outcome of the Civil War does not change that.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:17 PM (946rW)

715 This is a no win situation for SCOTUS.

Like the computer program "Joshua" said in the movie "War Games".

"A strange game. The only wining move is not to play"

That's what SCOTUS is about to do: Not play.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (G0vdT)

716 725 This is a no win situation for SCOTUS.

Like the computer program "Joshua" said in the movie "War Games".

"A strange game. The only wining move is not to play"

That's what SCOTUS is about to do: Not play.
Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (G0vdT)

=========

I think they're smart enough to know that that is playing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (LvTSG)

717 671
The most fundamental essence and purpose of the United States
Constitution - The Greatest Document Ever Written - is that it provides a
framework for self-governance for an independent people who believe
that that framework best effects the Declaration of Independence.


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I've heard someone (perhaps Dennis Prager and possibly quoting someone else) make this analogy:



. the Declaration of Independence is akin to the Mission Statement of the USA; and



. The US Constitution is akin to the Owners (or Operating) Manual.

Posted by: ShainS at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (JN3C9)

I think we are at the Service Manual part, since things are so broken.

Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 04:19 PM (ynpvh)

718 This is just my prediction. What thinkest thou?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at December 10, 2020 04:12 PM (kfcYC)

I'm not sure any state is close to secession right now. AZ briefly did it a few decades ago over the illegal immigrant plague we were suffering, but I think it was only for 6 minutes or so.

Now if patriotic Americans decide to besiege those blue hellhole cities, well. I'm all for that.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 04:19 PM (N3El/)

719 This is a no win situation for SCOTUS.



Like the computer program "Joshua" said in the movie "War Games".



"A strange game. The only wining move is not to play"



That's what SCOTUS is about to do: Not play.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (G0vdT)

Refusing to make a decision is a decision. One that will lead to a shooting war.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 10, 2020 04:20 PM (946rW)

720 Why it's as if the whole election was a big set up to get Kameltoe in the White House by hook or by crook.


Posted by: TheQuietMan
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Its not like I haven't freely admitted that here several times.

Posted by: soros at December 10, 2020 04:20 PM (Q+++t)

721 You know who's the biggest cuck in all of this? Bernie.
Coulda been a contendah.
Posted by: wth at December 10, 2020 04:11 PM (v0R5T)


Bernie's the biggest fucking grifter in DC which is really saying something. The Bros might be dumb as fuck but they at least hate the DNC as much as we do the GOP. But he played them like total marks and cashed in for being a sputtering retard.

Vermont should hang their heads for imposing that piece of shit and that other cocksucker, Leaky Leahy, on the country.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 04:20 PM (y7DUB)

722 676
655 633 I just can't see SCOTUS throwing out this election even though it was fraudulent

Posted by: It's me donna at December 10, 2020 04:05 PM (Zmnko)

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I'm with you Donna. The very best we can expect is "yeah, these states didn't follow their own law but....Laches!"

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:10 PM (G0vdT)


Ho Ho Ho. I've got laches for you, and laches for you, and ...

Posted by: PENN Supreme Court Santa at December 10, 2020 04:21 PM (ynpvh)

723 Pelosie's ninety or I'll eat my hat. I'm seventy-four and I look better than that bitych even without the botox.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 04:21 PM (XxJt1)

724 Bernie's the biggest fucking grifter in DC which is really saying something.


Posted by: Captain Hate at December 10, 2020 04:20 PM (y7DUB)
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I laughed because it' so true.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:21 PM (G0vdT)

725 Of course, but taking the case seems hopeful to me.

The Left wants SCOTUS to stay out of this. It's the path of least resistance to a Biden win.
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They want that to avoid truths not told to the people. The 5 will allow arguments, thus Manhattan Media and the California Inquisition will not be able to embargo the news. Thus the people will hear facts they have not heard before. After the airing of the grievances the feats of strength begin. The feats of strength will be scheduled in the four state legislatures of the offending parties. Good Luck.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:22 PM (T1Dne)

726 651 They're not admitting fraud. They are saying that accepting Texas's position for the sake of argument, it is wrong on its face.

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See this is why we lose political arguments. Yes, that is why they are making the argument. But every single American Patriot should be screaming "they admit it was fraud but say it doesn't matter". Make the case in the easiest way possible for the audience you are trying to reach, getting lost in nuance a la Romney 2012 gets you nowhere.



Well, no. When it comes to legal arguments, you need to understand the other side's argument in order to address it persuasively. Purposely misreading opposing counsel's arguments in a way that suits you is something that some lawyers do. But they are bad lawyers who generally sabotage their own efforts, because all but dullards understand when you are mischaracterizing the other side's position.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 04:22 PM (H5knJ)

727 I think we are at the Service Manual part, since things are so broken.
Posted by: jim at December 10, 2020 04:19 PM (ynpvh)

I'm ready for the parts manual. Ala carte.

Posted by: Golfman at December 10, 2020 04:24 PM (dcAnW)

728 That's what SCOTUS is about to do: Not play.

Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (G0vdT)



I think they're smart enough to know that that is playing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, marching in the Felliniesque circus at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (LvTSG)


Nah. They'll freeze. It's the judgely thing to do.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 04:24 PM (XxJt1)

729 I'm still chuckling at the actions of the PA legislature, filing suit in support of the people suing their state to force them to do what they have the power right now to do.

They swear they're doing everything they can to contest the election results...short of using their actual powers to select electors.

Slowly but surely their balls will fully descend if we keep applying pressure.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 10, 2020 04:24 PM (ZR7kf)

730 But they are bad lawyers who generally sabotage their own efforts, because all but dullards understand when you are mischaracterizing the other side's position.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 10, 2020 04:22 PM (H5knJ)

They are arguing the case they want to argue against, versus the case actually against them. Not a good idea in front of SCOTUS.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacem, Pac Bellum) at December 10, 2020 04:25 PM (N3El/)

731 It's all so corn-fusing.

Posted by: Sonia Sotomayor at December 10, 2020 04:25 PM (v0R5T)

732 726 725 This is a no win situation for SCOTUS.

Like the computer program "Joshua" said in the movie "War Games".

"A strange game. The only wining move is not to play"

That's what SCOTUS is about to do: Not play.
Posted by: WisRich at December 10, 2020 04:18 PM (G0vdT)

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I think they're smart enough to know that that is playing.
_______________

I salute your optimism, James Madison, but I don't share it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 04:25 PM (k4dH2)

733 'Scuse me. My jars empty.

Posted by: creeper at December 10, 2020 04:25 PM (XxJt1)

734 739 I'm still chuckling at the actions of the PA legislature, filing suit in support of the people suing their state to force them to do what they have the power right now to do.

They swear they're doing everything they can to contest the election results...short of using their actual powers to select electors.

Slowly but surely their balls will fully descend if we keep applying pressure.
_____________

Another one who is too optimistic.

If those cowards were inclined to do the right thing, they would already have done it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at December 10, 2020 04:28 PM (k4dH2)

735 I think they're smart enough to know that that is playing.
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I salute your optimism, James Madison, but I don't share it.
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Should be fun to watch Sotamayor ask questions. Kind of like Biden having a conversation.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:28 PM (T1Dne)

736 Lets talk about Ware county GA. The story I read was from the 3rd party candidate (The Constitution party). The county officials already knew something was wrong, because a hand count of the ballots did not jibe with the machine count. When they ran 100 Trump Ballots and 100 Biden ballots through the tabulator, the machine's result was 87 Trump votes and 113 Biden votes. They did it again, same result. This was clearly a weighted tabulation. The Constitution party candidate was supposed to testify about that, but he got moved to the end of the witness list and was never called to testify.
So why hasn't this been all over the right wing media? Answer: both the Democrats and the Republicans know that all the tabulators, nationwide, regardless of brand, have the weighted voting feature, and neither party objects to it, because they like the fact that it allows them to rig elections. Remember, if voting really mattered, you'd never be allowed to do it.
The time to invoke Rule .308 fast approaches.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at December 10, 2020 04:29 PM (YvsG0)

737 Lara Trump hits back on presidential pardon rumor: 'Looks like that might go to the Biden family'
"I don't think we're the family that needs a pardon" - Lara Trump

Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2020 04:31 PM (3aI0K)

738
wow. then what is the point to being in a union when you can't get a fair shake at having your grievances listed to and adjudicated on?
Posted by: IC - tis the season for election fraud ho ho ho at December 10, 2020 03:52 PM (a0IVu)


If this is he way the Constitution is going to be interpreted, then I'm out. Might as well move to Costa Rica. This isn't my country anymore.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 10, 2020 04:31 PM (4j1QR)

739 If those cowards were inclined to do the right thing, they would already have done it.
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You have to accept that doing something brave is hard. A SCOTUS hearing allows the public to hear things they don't know. Done correctly this allows state legislatures the courage to do something brave - like representing their voters. I know, this is crazy talk.

Posted by: Puddin Head at December 10, 2020 04:32 PM (T1Dne)

740 Coffee county Georgia refused to certify their election results because they kept getting different numbers.

Posted by: SMOD at December 10, 2020 04:32 PM (3aI0K)

741 Exactly. The union, for all intents and purposes, is gone at that point. Why should states be bound by the dereliction of basic voter integrity by other states? When our national elections become a fraudulent farce, it's over. The divorce, the dissolution must happen at that point.
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This is so.

My friends the Chinese thought it was a very good plan.

Posted by: soros at December 10, 2020 04:33 PM (HmIoC)

742 They are arguing the case they want to argue against, versus the case actually against them.
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So this is pretty much the fashion these days.

When I first started it was way more intellectually honest. Now its just projection and sophistry, and strawmen all the way down.

Intellectually a bore. Emotionalism, volume, and name calling doesn't take much brain power.

Posted by: name changed at December 10, 2020 04:38 PM (AAqqt)

743 Someone asked about possible dirt on Kamala

Hunter Biden Email Reportedly Names Kamala Harris, Others as Key Contacts for 'Joint Venture' With China Energy Co.

PJ media: https://tinyurl.com/yy95yqs2

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at December 10, 2020 04:38 PM (DV/hr)

744
He will never be legitimate, because a stolen election cannot confer legitimacy, legitimacy can only come from the consent of the governed.
Posted by: Cato, Nemo me impune lacessit at December 10, 2020 04:16 PM (Msrhc)


Official states' nullification is a hell of a thing. BUT, one step at a time here. Let's see what the SC actually does. We may be surprised.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 10, 2020 04:42 PM (4j1QR)

745 Now Joe Biden's Brother James Biden Is Being Investigated
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'Now'?
Probably since 2018...

Posted by: Hunter...say, look over there...Biden at December 10, 2020 04:51 PM (Roy2Z)

746 Late to the party and may have missed if someone already mentioned, but Joe is already being thrown under the bus. So far, it's only Joe's brother and Joe's son, but the media said just a few weeks ago, there was no there, there.

Joe will be gone shortly if he makes it to the presidency. Kamala will just do as she's told. Hopefully from prison.

Posted by: Dwaynerz at December 10, 2020 05:22 PM (gtu/X)

747 First off, Kamal-toe really ain't black. You know like true black Americans. Just saying.
Secondly, fuck you to every Biden there is!!! Cock suckers al of them.

Posted by: JD at December 10, 2020 06:01 PM (7/kmB)

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