These lockdowns gotta stop. [KT]

Public Gardens in Boston, in the spring
Photo by someone who was supposed to be staying home
Good thing she doesn't live in Los Angeles.

Well, it has been pretty warm for the beginning of December in the Central Valley of California. But COVID-19 cases have still been rising some. There was reportedly no ICU capacity in some counties one day this week. My husband and I both got alerts on our phones. His was quite dramatic, with a loud alarm. The alert demanded that he acknowledge having read it. He did not want to acknowledge the alert. He re-started his phone. He got the alert again. Re-started the phone again. Got the alert again. Not sure how he finally got rid of it.

My alert was in Spanish. I could just "dismiss" it. Oddly, the "Dismiss" button was in English.

Earlier in the month, Gavin Newsom had gotten tough about stay-at-home orders tied to ICU capacity under 15%.

The reaction of the Fresno County Sheriff was typical of other law enforcement officials in the area:

Sheriff Margaret Mims was quick to respond after the announcement, saying "We will not be enforcing any stay-at-home orders."
She said her department doesn't have the resources to enforce the order.
"If I showed anybody a list of what assignments and what cases our deputy sheriffs were working, they would be pretty hard-pressed to decide which one should stop what they're doing to go enforce these COVID rules," said Sheriff Mims.

"But that decision could come with consequences from the state."

"If you're unwilling to enforce the rules, if you're unwilling to adopt the protocols to support the mitigation and the reduction of the spread of this disease, we're happy to redirect those dollars to counties that feel differently," said Newsom.
Fresno County Supervisor Nathan Magsig said the governor shouldn't play politics with dollars that are vital to the Valley's survival.
"The specific purpose of those dollars were to be used for personal protective equipment, for testing," said Magsig. "For the state to step forward and try to withhold money from regions that maybe have a disagreement with the governor on his approach I think is completely wrong."
Newsom added that they've withheld funds before.

So Newsom's priorities here seem to line up with those of the new Soros-backed DA in Los Angeles. No unnecessary walking in Los Angeles, per the Mayor. That's Gavin Newsom's kind of mayor.

But resisting arrest and criminal threats are O.K., per the DA. This helps the Mayor and Governor meet their goals, right?

What about other ways to reduce the risk?

On Tuesday, Ron Johnson chaired a hearing on alternative treatments for COVID-19. The AP seems a little biased.

One physician spoke about Ivermectin. Something a lot of people haven't heard about. His statement was dramatic. The AP's "fact check" was dumb. The reason he was in the hearing was because U.S. studies are "not the gold standard": peer-reviewed randomized controlled clinical trials. But there ARE a lot of data beyond the Australian in vitro data. Clinical data. Controlled trials, even. The fact check is misleading. He wants the NIH to review the data. He wants physicians to act like physicians.

Much of the AP "fact check" focused on the couple who swallowed fish tank cleaner instead of getting prescriptions for Hydroxychloroquine. We wouldn't want people taking their dogs' heartworm medication instead of getting prescriptions for Ivermectin.

Here's the statement before the senate:

Here's a video in which he discusses the data with an Italian physician. It's long. At about 35 minutes, he describes data demonstrating that in parts of Peru where the regional health ministries distributed Ivermectin to all residents, deaths from COVID fell despite continued COVID cases. In Lima, where Ivermectin was not distributed, deaths remained high. Similar results were found in other countries. I think this video is more compelling than the Senate statement, but it is long.

The group of which this physician is a part has a website where clinical data are constantly updated. They have also issued a protocol for prophylaxis and treatment of early COVID-19. It includes some vitamins and other agents to enhance the immune response, in addition to Ivermectin.

He often mentions Dr. Paul Marik. This is the Marik Protocol, which has been online for several months. It's a little different from the one put out by the entire group of which he is a part. It is also updated from time to time. Here's a statement Marik made in October advocating for large studies for Ivermectin. Why isn't it being widely researched and utilized?

Everybody seems to be waiting for someone else to do Randomized Controlled Trials, then to get them peer reviewed. If the agent works, how many people will die in the meantime? Should physicians and patients be given a choice?

Vitamin D

There's an interesting discussion of Vitamin D over at Chicago Boyz. In addition to D, it's probably a good idea to pay attention to some basic nutrients, including the B vitamins, C, A and K, and various minerals.

Vitamin C and sometimes D are being used in some hospitals as drugs rather than nutrients, but we're not talking about those kinds of levels for prophylaxis.

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1 Anyone at the march today?

Posted by: Ted Torgerson at December 12, 2020 11:19 AM (/aiGx)

2 Oh, the smell of a new thread on a Saturday.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 12, 2020 11:19 AM (gtatv)

3 I keep getting a notification on my phone asking me to download my state's Covid tracker app. PASS.

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 12, 2020 11:20 AM (zNpyh)

4 It is official. I have been deplatformed by Google.

elmo now signs off, after fifteen years.

AMFYOYO

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 11:20 AM (tvzmd)

5 Got stuff to do. Catch you later.

Posted by: Insomniac at December 12, 2020 11:22 AM (nakwk)

6 End? They have just began to make them worse.
And Sundowner 7th Usurper says a 100 day lockdown is coming.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:22 AM (Cxk7w)

7 I take a witches brew of herbs, minerals, colloidal silver, magic mushrooms, glutatione etc.to make my bod a hostile environment for teh wuflu.

or any other bug really

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:22 AM (DJFLF)

8 I keep getting a notification on my phone asking me to download my state's Covid tracker app. PASS.

Block the number!

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 12, 2020 11:24 AM (gtatv)

9

this nood is AWESOME !

fresh too

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:24 AM (GIeIM)

10 My newly elected sheriff said numerous times durin the election campaign he would not enforce any state or national lockdowns. We shall see if he was bullshitting or not son enough as Sloe Joe is almost certainly going to issue a lockdown order nationally.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:24 AM (22mNy)

11 I still log daily Covid-19 deaths in Pa, NY, NJ and Wi. Not sure if a running count of Ca would make them seem less needed.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:24 AM (Cxk7w)

12 Hiya KT !

Posted by: JT at December 12, 2020 11:26 AM (arJlL)

13 Watched an interview last night (thanks to the moron who posted the link) with the found of the Oath Keepers organization, Stewart Rhodes -- an actual constitutional scholar unlike the DogEater -- and he made an observation I'd not yet heard:

Article IV, Section 4 of the U.S. Constitution was sufficient for the Texas lawsuit to proceed and win (not to mention the 14th Amendment amendments Due Process and Equal Protection clauses) -- and also provides a constitutional basis for President Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act --

The United States shall guarantee to every state in this union a republican form of government, and shall protect each of them against
invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened) against domestic violence.

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2020 11:27 AM (WqPYg)

14 My friend used to cut up a couple slices of gingerroot, pour hot water over it and drink as a tea. She did this about 4 times a week during the winter and never got sick.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:27 AM (DJFLF)

15 I was always half thinking that the restrictions would ease after the election because I thought a lot the Dems in state and local leadership didn't really believe the horseshit they peddling. Maybe they do believe it or they just love the power and ain't going to give it up. Either way, they are going to make everything worse, count on it.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 12, 2020 11:28 AM (qH6FZ)

16 For my fellow Californios, there is a recall petition for Governor hairdo.
Get your name and signature on it. It is a snowball rolling downhill. Soon it will be impossible to ignore.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 11:29 AM (w7KSn)

17 Governor Gavito Newsolini

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2020 11:29 AM (/2aWP)

18
4
It is official. I have been deplatformed by Google.

elmo now signs off, after fifteen years.

AMFYOYO

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 11:20 AM (tvzmd)

___________

Had to look that one up -- nice: Adios Mother Fucker You're On Your Own

Posted by: ShainS at December 12, 2020 11:30 AM (WqPYg)

19 Maybe they do believe it or they just love the power
and ain't going to give it up. Either way, they are going to make
everything worse, count on it.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 12, 2020 11:28 AM (qH6FZ)
it's a coordinated orchestrated effort to deconstruct our lives and bankrupt us, leaving us dependent on the nanny state.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:30 AM (DJFLF)

20 Hiya, JT

Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 11:31 AM (BVQ+1)

21 my prediction for today

street brawls all over the USA as antifa/blm get rude

it will all be the Rs fault

and a yummy breakfast of eggs and kimchi

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:31 AM (GIeIM)

22 So this guy is saying this ivermectin stuff should be banned from being mentioned on social media, and the corporate media should put a clampdown on any mention of it.

And needless to say, the NIH should pretend it doesn't even exist.

Because otherwise, how are all the vaccines going to make any money?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:32 AM (hku12)

23 Heard that video clip on Prager yesterday, Dennis was pretty livid that the Democrats Propaganda ministry has very real blood on their hands preventing very safe common remedy to prevent this early in patients.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:32 AM (Cxk7w)

24
Anyone at the march today?
Posted by: Ted Torgerson

=========

I'm going to stopthesteal in Huntington Beach.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (W04rT)

25 @18
The Great Shut Up.

Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (w/5KC)

26 Joe Biden will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (QUOVv)

27 Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 11:20 AM (tvzmd)
very good writing, elmo.

I just looked and your blog is still up

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (DJFLF)

28 Somewhere in there a suggestion taking Zinc and vitamin D just as a prevention.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (Cxk7w)

29 From the link by KT:

"Anyone over the age of 16 traveling to L.A. must complete an online form upon arrival to acknowledge they've read and understood a California travel advisory.
Failure to submit the form is punishable by a fine of up to $500."

This is insane. I'm going to go camp along HWY 1 and I'm supposed to know I'm going to be fined if I don't fill out some form?
If I go to visit family I'm not hunting for some L.A mandated form.
L.A. is certifiable at this point.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (gtatv)

30 For my fellow Californios, there is a recall petition for Governor hairdo.
Get your name and signature on it. It is a snowball rolling downhill. Soon it will be impossible to ignore.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 11:29 AM (w7KSn)

LOLOL

Posted by: Dominion at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (1biAv)

31 BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:32 AM
Which guy?

Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (BVQ+1)

32
Newsolini
Posted by: t-bird

========

Haha, Newsolini, awesome!

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (W04rT)

33 Every msm writers of the scotus decision starts off with baseless and debunked accusations. But never talks about the accusations. Funny that.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (22mNy)

34 Thanks for all the info, KT!

That video by Dr. Pierre Kory: I've got to admit, I got tired of him yelling (at me); I understand that he's upset. But it's not helping his case.

Posted by: m at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (LTs8q)

35 It is official. I have been deplatformed by Google.

elmo now signs off, after fifteen years

Posted by: elmo

Did they tickle you goodbye ?

Posted by: JT at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (arJlL)

36 @Kallisto

ALL other inbound traffic is completely nonexistent.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (tvzmd)

37 I noticed Newsom instituted stricter lockdowns in effect as long as ICUs were over 85% capacity. ICUs typically run at 90-95% capacity because if they don't, the hospital is seriously misallocating their resources.

So. No end to the lockdowns.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (ofYez)

38
I taking vitamin D

but be thoughtfull, you can actually take too much

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (GIeIM)

39 I get those alerts on my phone too but I am able to dismiss them. Covid pron. Also our idiot mayor who decided to shut down all the schools in our county until January 15th has relented and will allow in-person learning starting January 4th after Christmas break. We have been virtual all month. I can't stand it. You can tell the kids don't like it either.

Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (Vf4Y7)

40 Shit tadoo.

later.

Posted by: JT at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)

41 The petition doesn't involve voting machines.
It's not a ballot.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (w7KSn)

42 Skip at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM
Both protocols include Zinc and Vitamin D.
Plus Vitamin C with Quercetin. And B vitamins

Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (BVQ+1)

43 15

Yeah me too. I was sure this was all just election stuff to hurt Trump. But once fascists get a taste of power they will never give it up.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (22mNy)

44 Forget the Texas case, these lockdowns have already proven the Constitution isn't worth the parchment it's written on. Amazing how easily our population was cowed by the flu.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (4NtsG)

45 @26
Pollyanna scenario: Joe's increasing senility, Democrat civil war between the Pelosi/Schumer wing and Squad wing, evolving China-bribe scandal, evolving proof of Dominion swinging the election, BLM/Antifa overplaying their hand etc results in a four-year, slow-motion, flaming-clown-car wreck of epic proportions.

In the course of which perhaps we don't all die and lose our country to economic depresssion and foreign invasion.

Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (w/5KC)

46 28
Somewhere in there a suggestion taking Zinc and vitamin D just as a prevention.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (Cxk7w)
also need quercetin to help with zinc absorption and vitamin K2 to assist D3
quercetin is available in green leafys, citrus fruits, red grapes, berries so you can just enjoy your fruits and veggies if you don't want to pop a bunch of pills every day

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (DJFLF)

47 Joe Biden will never be President of the United States.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 11:33 AM (QUOVv)

It's him or Kamala.

Posted by: Dominion at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (1biAv)

48 States convention > insurrection act

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (wBQhZ)

49 There is much evidence from the last lock-down that not only do they not work, but they may even make it worse.

Posted by: Vic at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (mpXpK)

50 I saw Buddy Rich live once in the 70's.

It was a pretty small venue, which usually had rock bands.. not sure why they even had him..

But it was a small stage. He had a 15 piece band with him. He took up half the stage and the whole band was crowded like sardines into the other half.. lol..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (CjFDo)

51 Is there any other virus that has such a severity gap or is that common with most viruses?

Of course if I just based it on anecdotal flu information , when someone gets the flu it's never just the sniffles. Of course people never got tested for the flu when they just had the sniffles so who knows?

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (2DOZq)

52 My friend used to cut up a couple slices of gingerroot, pour hot water over it and drink as a tea. She did this about 4 times a week during the winter and never got sick.
Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:27 AM (DJFLF)

I do that (when I remember to buy fresh ginger). Fresh ginger root, shred, pour hot water over it. Drink.

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (zr5Kq)

53 m at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM

I think he got wired up by the Democrat calling him a "politician".

Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (BVQ+1)

54 CodeMonkeyZ posting a lot of pictures of governors posing with Chinese officials right now. I had no idea so many states had a foreign policy.

Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (2nFxy)

55 Heard that video clip on Prager yesterday, Dennis was pretty livid that the Democrats Propaganda ministry has very real blood on their hands preventing very safe common remedy to prevent this early in patients.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:32 AM (Cxk7w)
---------------------------------

The Demoncrats in the US are communists. Full stop. They are communists, and they are doing what communists have done since communism was invented. They are killing innocent people.

Preventing an inexpensive & safe medication from being distributed to sick people, and controlling access to information so that sick people don't even know there is a remedy available, is murder. People have died for lack of treatment, or being given the wrong treatment - ventilators. Remember when Fauxi and his lying minions said we needed ventilators and President Trump rushed to manufacture thousands of ventilators, only to find out ventilators kill people?

Preventing access to treatment is murder just as surely as marching us off to the killing fields is also murder.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (oGBso)

56 36
@Kallisto

ALL other inbound traffic is completely nonexistent.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (tvzmd)
Oh I see.
How much traffic do you usually get?

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (DJFLF)

57 Living in a red county in a red state, my life is as normal as I can remember. Only effect the Rona has had on me is the cancellation of a few Christmas parties. Other than that, stores are open, schools are open, restaurants are open. If it were not for the media I would have no idea a so called pandemic is happening.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (22mNy)

58 Mini Mike DeWine, when extending the tyrannical curfews, announced the Browns, Bengals and some kickball team in Columbus would be "exempt" for their night games. You know what making exceptions to something means? That the whole thing is fake and unserious.

Posted by: Captain Hate at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (y7DUB)

59 BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:32 AM
Which guy?
Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (BVQ+1)

I'm being sarcastic. In the video you posted, Dr. Kory is saying this is the shit, and I'm saying it will be ignored by all our media overlords, because it'll be bad for business.

So I just popped over to a search engine, and the FIRST item posed is from the AP. Here's the headline:

No evidence ivermectin is a miracle drug against COVID-19

To call corporate media evil is to understate the facts.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (hku12)

60 54 CodeMonkeyZ posting a lot of pictures of governors posing with Chinese officials right now. I had no idea so many states had a foreign policy.
Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (2nFxy)

They do, foreign investment and kickbacks

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (ONvIw)

61 Oddly I haven't heard anyone quote from Palms in this funeral I'm watching.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (lgiXo)

62 The petition doesn't involve voting machines.
It's not a ballot.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 11:35 AM (w7KSn)

Yeah.

But you have to vote to recall.

Posted by: Dominion at December 12, 2020 11:39 AM (1biAv)

63 @Kallisto

A yard a day. Now ZERO.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 11:39 AM (tvzmd)

64 States convention > insurrection act

Posted by: BourbonChicken at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (wBQhZ)

Given the behavior of feckless legislatures, no it is not.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 11:40 AM (946rW)

65 I've been taking a multi-vitamin for Men over 29 for several years. I've since added 2000 mg C, 1000 IU D3, 50 mg zinc, and 250mg Optimized Quercetin to my daily regimen.

Oh, and the multi has 750 IU of D3.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 12, 2020 11:40 AM (TArQP)

66 Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (lgiXo)

Are you by yourself ?

Posted by: runner at December 12, 2020 11:40 AM (zr5Kq)

67

a 2yo would not put a mask on in an airplane going from Denver to Newark, the family got thrown off the plane

video of it all too

at Essential Fleccsa twitter

madness it is a 2yo

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (GIeIM)

68 I've been taking my vitamins since just about the start. D3 1600 IU, and C and zinc. I haven't gotten on the quercetin train since it can interfere with some of the meds I take. Anyone else have that problem?

Posted by: InCaliWannaBeInNewCali at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (9AFWN)

69
Are you by yourself ?
Posted by: runner at December 12, 2020 11:40 AM (zr5Kq)

Yes I am.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (lgiXo)

70
How is Donna ampersand? Anna Puma I saw in the last thread going offline for a while. I did it and I've come back to limited news exposure, temporarily anyway.

Someone introduced me to Maximus Uncensored (Maximus_4EVR) and it perked me up a bit after the SCOTUS decision, which Rudy also said was a mere bump in the road never really intended to be The Thing. Maybe this Maximus dude is known around here and considered a big wish-caster.

He cites this 1876 move in which a handful of states sent competing slates of electors and swung the election to Rutherford B. Hayes. Also another potential move in which one Senator and one House member object to an elector or a state slate, then (process process) and the vote winds up in the House.

Is this crazy wish-casting? I don't see how Ted Cruz and Devin Nunes DON'T try this move if it's for real.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 11:42 AM (W04rT)

71 BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:32 AM
Which guy?
Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (BVQ+1)

I'm being sarcastic. In the video you posted, Dr. Kory is saying this is the shit, and I'm saying it will be ignored by all our media overlords, because it'll be bad for business.

So I just popped over to a search engine, and the FIRST item posed is from the AP. Here's the headline:

No evidence ivermectin is a miracle drug against COVID-19

To call corporate media evil is to understate the facts.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (hku12)

And just to further emphasize the point, I'm using the Duck Duck Go search engine. Their results, while they may not "track" me, are basically the same as Google's.

The ONE item on the front page from any type of traditional corporate media is the AP headline. Usually anything you search on DDG, like with most search engines, will be filled with corporate media links on the first page.

Everything else on the page, beside AP though, is non-corporate media, talking about his "impassioned" speech.

So the point stands. Where corporate media does not straight up lie, they put a clampdown on it, and pretend it doesn't exist.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)

72 Blonde Morticia, glad you are going - keep us updated

Posted by: vmom - Trump Won! at December 12, 2020 11:43 AM (6qTc2)

73 One problem at a time.

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 11:43 AM (w7KSn)

74 Covid will disappear in March.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM (2DOZq)

75 It's ~~the flu~~ the way Dems are going to control us.

Posted by: creeper at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM (+Ta2A)

76 So Ivermectin is a scrip? Some moron mentioned that it was OTC and I wondered about that.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM (TArQP)

77 He cites this 1876 move in which a handful of states sent competing slates of electors and swung the election to Rutherford B. Hayes. Also another potential move in which one Senator and one House member object to an elector or a state slate, then (process process) and the vote winds up in the House.

..

None of that will happen.

Posted by: Swamp Fever at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (1biAv)

78 Like 5 minutes ago the left was all against Big Pharma and promoted natural alternatives. And today the left is salivating for a Pfizer vaccine and calls natural alternatives right wing conspiracy theories.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (22mNy)

79 I keep getting a notification on my phone asking me to download my state's Covid tracker app. PASS.

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 12, 2020 11:20 AM (zNpyh)

Really?
I haven't had any alert on my phone (old iPhone 6) nor has Mrs D.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (axyOa)

80 It's quaint that you still hold out hope against a machine that was able to overturn a landslide election both with computers and then brute force ballot box stuffing with the full complicity of the media and government, a machine that was able to make three supreme court justices submit to their will, a machine that can mobilize armies to set fire to our cities with a few DMs. You are conquered.

Posted by: cannont at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (hCqcJ)

81 @74
"Covid will disappear in March."

And if only Trump had announced a "National Mask Mandate" sooner 300,000 American lives would have been saved, they'll say.

Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (w/5KC)

82 Be ready for the economic impact of all this to hit pretty damn soon. And when it does you can bet they're going to blame Trump for their own destructive policies. And half the nation will believe it.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (qH6FZ)

83 I've quit all my normal sites since the steal. I come here, will glance at free republic, and a few select Twitter accounts even though I don't have one. That's it. I've been trying to keep busy and read non political books.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (UUBmN)

84 68 I've been taking my vitamins since just about the start. D3 1600 IU, and C and zinc. I haven't gotten on the quercetin train since it can interfere with some of the meds I take. Anyone else have that problem?
Posted by: InCaliWannaBeInNewCali at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (9AFWN

quercetin wrecked my stomach, lots of pain

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (ONvIw)

85 Google and dozens of others will start deplatforming lots of blogs without a penalty. It will be some crap about hate speach but its coming.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (Cxk7w)

86 67

a 2yo would not put a mask on in an airplane going from Denver to Newark, the family got thrown off the plane

video of it all too

at Essential Fleccsa twitter

madness it is a 2yo
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (GIeIM)

The airline was United. That 2 year old has more common sense than the monsters who work at and run the airline.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma, The Queen of Sheba Elect at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (8/7u2)

87 Covid will disappear in March.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM (2DOZq)

I'll take that bet. At least a quarter of the population is conditioned to masks and social distance crap now. They'll never let go of it.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (7jTtI)

88 Living in a red county in a red state, my life is as normal as I can remember. Only effect the Rona has had on me is the cancellation of a few Christmas parties. Other than that, stores are open, schools are open, restaurants are open. If it were not for the media I would have no idea a so called pandemic is happening.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (22mNy)

Wow, that is amazing to me. Sickness and death has been the only subject discussed around here. It really wears. I think I'm becoming depressed.

I mentioned a thought I had - what if we look back on 2020 and remember it as the 'good old days'? I know that reverberates around here.

Posted by: InCaliWannaBeInNewCali at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (9AFWN)

89 I have alerts disabled on my phone so I don't get that crap.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (UUBmN)

90 I haven't gotten on the quercetin train since it can interfere with some of the meds I take. Anyone else have that problem?

Posted by: InCaliWannaBeInNewCali at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (9AFWN)
my friend can't eat grapefruits because it affects absorption of one of the meds she takes
If you can't take supplements, can you at least eat leafy greens or berries?

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (DJFLF)

91 I also like how I'm seeing articles from the medical journals now counting shut-down deaths (delayed diagnoses, overdoses etc) as "Covid deaths."

Inevitably these will be cited as support for society-ending lockdowns, because The Covids have killed so many.

Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (w/5KC)

92 Jack Posobies has the debate clip with Chris Wallace defending Biden when Trump was bringing up Hunters dealins with Russia and China

looks way bad

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (GIeIM)

93 Maybe the kid on the plane didnt want to go to Newark.

My dream is to douse the suburban Karenwaffe with gasoline and set them on fire in front of their children

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (WlqoL)

94 Epoch is covering the March on DC... the crowd looks YUGE.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (946rW)

95 Should that "100 day for the mask" order occur, I will join with millions of others to celebrate a Mass Mask Burning at whichever Public Square is chosen for the event.

Compliance with such an order needs to be the First Failure (and a massive, impossible to ignore failure at that), of a newly Stolen Presidency.

And what I wish for more, (Please, Santa?), is for at least one of the remaining court battles to be actually successful, and to save this great Country from the ignoble shame and near-certain ruin of The Steal.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (QzJWU)

96 Covid will disappear in March.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM

Thanks only to the heroic efforts of Biden and Harris nd the staunch efforts on the front lines by the media...vanguard of the Information so vital to the running of a healthy and effective State.
All comrades will cheer!

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2020 11:48 AM (axyOa)

97 Morning all. I have to admit that I have Rona Fatigue. It's a beaten to death horse. I have had the Rona, as have many of my family. I suspect I have had it twice, as a matter of fact. ( Second time was a bump in the road). Nobody of the numerous people I know who have had it have died, but there is always someone who knows someone who had someone die from it. They always had underlying conditions, so, who knows.

Point being, all of this has worn me out. We don't do any lockdowns or mandates here, never have, and the Rona cases are no higher than places that are all in on restrictions. Make of that what you will. My Doctor friend, eight months ago, said eventually everyone will get it, that's how a Coronavirus rolls. Presciently, perhaps, he also said that a vaccine for a coronavirus was a bad joke, because of the mutational nature of the litttle buggers.
I know we have elevated the coronavirus to the status of Boogeyman, and every time I hear people use the anti-Boogeyman incantations going around now, I would like to hit them with a brick.
Have a nice weekend.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 11:48 AM (bCLt0)

98 Jack Posobiec

Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:48 AM (GIeIM)

99 looks way bad
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (GIeIM)

Maybe Chris will offer an insincere apology now that the damage is done and his red crowd intimidates any one who tries to stop the steal

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 11:48 AM (ONvIw)

100 Thanks for all the info, KT!

That video by Dr. Pierre Kory: I've got to admit, I got tired of him yelling (at me); I understand that he's upset. But it's not helping his case.
Posted by: m at December 12, 2020 11:34 AM (LTs8q)

That's what bothers you? That he raised his voice?

Not the mountains of data he's saying is being ignored by NIH? That doesn't bother you, but the fact that he's not a polished speaker at a dog and pony Senate hearing, THAT bothers you?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)

101
He cites this 1876 move in which a handful of states sent competing slates of electors and swung the election to Rutherford B. Hayes.
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The compromise that ended that election was the official end of Reconstruction in the south, so okay here's your Rutherford B. Hayes presidency in exchange for the north going home. The end of Reconstruction allowed the demoncrats to get their KKK army up and running, leading to disenfranchisement of the black population and subsequent waves of terror unchecked by law enforcement for decades.

In that election they also blew right past all the dates for finishing up the election, including the date/time of the inauguration. I believe Hayes didn't get sworn in until March.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 12, 2020 11:50 AM (oGBso)

102 The big push now for COVID hysteria is to make it seem as bad as possible when Biden takes over. Then in a month or two the headlines will suddenly be Falling Cases Bring Great Relief to Millions and Finally COVID Cases Begin to Fall. And Biden will take a victory lap that he cured COVID. And half of America will believe he did.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:50 AM (22mNy)

103 Heard Lars Larson talking to a Dr re invermectin. Dr says it works. Branch Covidians are against it.

Posted by: Phil at December 12, 2020 11:50 AM (gdN9y)

104
None of that will happen.
Posted by: Swamp Fever

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Well then... I'll be watching The Great British Baking Show nonstop for the next four years. I've already got all the episodes memorized, though. Must find another mind-habit that allows me to be 100% news-free.

Should I skip the stopthesteal rally today? Seriously wondering. The only reason I was going to attend it was that I had some hope even after SCOTUS rejected the Texas suit.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 11:50 AM (W04rT)

105 Covid will disappear in March.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM (2DOZq)

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Only if there's something to replace it. These petty tyrants aren't going to willingly give up their ill gotten power.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (kTF2Z)

106 And so much for New Cali. Their first petition - dismissed.

Posted by: InCali at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (9AFWN)

107 Link to Epoch live coverage: https://tinyurl.com/y3yfn2gs

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (946rW)

108 I'm no genius, but judging from the remarks on Twitter and Parler, it's not that difficult to understand why we're at this point in our republic.

Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (b7N2Q)

109 Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)

Sort of like people here who I might agree with 100% but will skip their posts because they don't know how not to be an asshole when expressing their point.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (2DOZq)

110 COVID is a wholly owned subsidiary of the DNC. It WILL do as it is told. The bought and paid for it. Got lots of miles on their card, too.

Posted by: klaftern at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (RuIsu)

111 And so much for New Cali. Their first petition - dismissed.

Posted by: InCali at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (9AFWN)

What's New Cali?

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (ZSK0i)

112 I heard a local council meeting in Boise ID abruptly cancelled their plans to impose a mask mandate when citizens were protesting at the meeting and also at the councilpeep's homes.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (DJFLF)

113 I also like how I'm seeing articles from the medical journals now counting shut-down deaths (delayed diagnoses, overdoses etc) as "Covid deaths."

Inevitably these will be cited as support for society-ending lockdowns, because The Covids have killed so many.
Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 11:47 AM (w/5KC)

You can't make this stuff up. We're living in a Kafkaesque nightmare, where they are forcibly imprisoning normal citizens, and letting OUT of actual prisons, all the criminals.

All to save us from the Covids.

And when people get uppity about being locked up, they say we're being "hysterical," which is a symptom of the Covids, and is why we need to be locked down more.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (hku12)

114
The compromise that ended that election was the official end of Reconstruction in the south, so okay here's your Rutherford B. Hayes presidency in exchange for the north going home. The end of Reconstruction allowed the demoncrats to get their KKK army up and running, leading to disenfranchisement of the black population and subsequent waves of terror unchecked by law enforcement for decades.

In that election they also blew right past all the dates for finishing up the election, including the date/time of the inauguration. I believe Hayes didn't get sworn in until March.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots

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Yeah, I knew bad things happened thenceforward and I was also bewildered by the way they blew past dates in that election. He wasn't sworn in until March, which I thought was unconstitutional but wow. I never learned about that election until now, but it must have been a wild-ass time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (W04rT)

115 Can't you go into the phones settings>notifications >scroll down to government alerts and turn them off?
I did and I don't get any of them

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (UUBmN)

116 And if only Trump had announced a "National Mask Mandate" sooner 300,000 American lives would have been saved, they'll say.
Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 11:45 AM (w/5KC)

Sadly if Trump announced a mask mandate the media would freak out about the uselessness of masks.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (lgiXo)

117 Should I skip the stopthesteal rally today?
Seriously wondering. The only reason I was going to attend it was that I
had some hope even after SCOTUS rejected the Texas suit.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 11:50 AM (W04rT)

Do not ever give up Blonde Morticia. Go to the rally. Call and write your legislators and FIGHT.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 11:53 AM (946rW)

118 So how are people without smartphones, who are away from their Internet access at home or who don't have Internet, supposed to fill out this form? How are they supposed to even find out that there is a form to fill out?

What about people who are illiterate?

Is this a tax against people who are trying to avoid being online? Because it's not as if newspapers are terribly available or useful anymore.

Posted by: suburbanbanshee at December 12, 2020 11:53 AM (sF8WE)

119 So Gruesome Newsom is going to act like Congressman Eric Smallwang and stomp his little feet and pout if a big bad female sheriff in Fresno says she ain't buying?

What about the various judges in different counties in California who've told Newsom to put his outdoor dining ban where the sun don't shine?

Why little Gavin is going to get all wee wee'd up.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at December 12, 2020 11:53 AM (NVDjf)

120 Only if there's something to replace it. These petty tyrants aren't going to willingly give up their ill gotten power.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (kTF2Z)

A subsequently rebounding economy will be their replacement to calm and control the populace.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (2DOZq)

121 Only if there's something to replace it. These petty tyrants aren't going to willingly give up their ill gotten power.

I don't know if you've, heard but I've read a claim that it's more important than EVAH to wear a mask after being vaccinated.

Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (b7N2Q)

122 And no COVID thread would be complete without some Alex Berenson goodness.

Today he features a well-credentialed MD who is advocating for the re-opening of High Schools:
https://tinyurl.com/y6hqmh6q

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (DJFLF)

123 Has HCQ fallen out of favor? Or is it just that it is difficult to obtain right now? I think I heard CCP and other "important" people have been hoarding HCQ.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (ofYez)

124 I would bet there have been more suicides of 20 years and under than their Covid-19 deaths.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:55 AM (Cxk7w)

125 Blonde Morticia, ignore the eyores
Trump is still fighting
He has earned our support

Posted by: vmom - Trump Won! at December 12, 2020 11:55 AM (6qTc2)

126 I heard a local council meeting in Boise ID abruptly
cancelled their plans to impose a mask mandate when citizens were
protesting at the meeting and also at the councilpeep's homes.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (DJFLF)

There needs to be FAR more of this. In every state. Every Day.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 11:55 AM (946rW)

127 The government issues these China Flu mandates because they care about you and want you to be safe.

Hilarious.

They are lying to you.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 11:55 AM (R/m4+)

128 Living in a red county in a red state, my life is as normal as I can remember. Only effect the Rona has had on me is the cancellation of a few Christmas parties. Other than that, stores are open, schools are open, restaurants are open. If it were not for the media I would have no idea a so called pandemic is happening.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:38 AM (22mNy)

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My company operates offices in about 90 cities and towns around America, and my job entails interaction with all of them, so I have at least glimpses from a high altitude.

Due to my n***a PDT's boom economy, we've posted year over year GROWTH in 2020. But this belies the situation on the ground.

In red (sane) markets we are KILLING it. Just killing it. Our competitors tremble before our might. In blue (insane) markets, they suffer along us. We had to lay off 25% of our total workforce, largely due to our east and west coast franchises, which are hanging on by their fingernails to subsidies provided by the home office, which wants to keep a pied-a-terre in these cities, for when (if) the madness passes.

That situation will deteriorate rapidly, and soon. We can't afford this forever.

IOW: if you're in a place that isn't feeling this, it all seems silly. But it won't soon. Stopgaps and bandaids and hope for a return to bust-out Trump growth will in fact quit working soon, and then EVERYONE will get a taste of that pain.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 11:56 AM (PBmdd)

129 121 Only if there's something to replace it. These petty tyrants aren't going to willingly give up their ill gotten power.

I don't know if you've, heard but I've read a claim that it's more important than EVAH to wear a mask after being vaccinated.
Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (b7N2Q)

A form of Doublethink required here. I think.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 11:56 AM (bCLt0)

130 Alt topic for discussion, via Insty.

On the ethics of Santa.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/419663/

Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2020 11:56 AM (1Yy3c)

131 I don't know if you've, heard but I've read a claim that it's more important than EVAH to wear a mask after being vaccinated.
Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (b7N2Q)

That makes perfect sense in the context of their insanity and tyranny.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2020 11:56 AM (H8QX8)

132 subsequently rebounding economy will be their replacement to calm and control the populace.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks
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Hahahahahaahahahah, you mean when commercial real estate collapses? And all the restaurants have finally gone under?

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 11:56 AM (UUBmN)

133 Yes I am.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM (lgiXo)

sorry for your loss. I don't know the details about this. I don't know if you were kept away because of covid, or some other reason. I do know it must be strange to watch this service online. Maybe many have done such a thing but it is new to me. I am very old fashioned and not the biggest net fan.

Regardless, sorry for your loss my man. Hang in there. You can tell by people like Runner that there are people that care.

At least you can watch it again. I don't know if that is a blessing or not. I recall doing a pretty good job speaking at my own dad's funeral. It was the last thing I wanted to to, because of the loss and I don't like public speaking. But I had to do it. I was proud of it in some ways if for no other reason, to support my mother. It turns out the church botched the recording and the entire recording of the service was ruined.

I was irate about that for quite a while. People kept asking me for a recording I could not give them. Not sure why I am telling you this but I guess net streaming has some advantages. It is a different world, there is no doubt there.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 11:58 AM (3frqk)

134 After that misplaced comma I think I need another coffee.

And maybe no Bailey's Irish Cream this time!

Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 11:58 AM (b7N2Q)

135 Masks now, Masks tomorrow, Masks forever!

Posted by: Joe Biden, Old Racist at December 12, 2020 11:58 AM (R/m4+)

136 In that election they also blew right past all the dates for finishing up the election, including the date/time of the inauguration. I believe Hayes didn't get sworn in until March.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 12, 2020 11:50 AM (oGBso)

No, pretty sure that in those days Presidents got inaugurated in March. They did push it to the wire, though.

Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2020 11:58 AM (1Yy3c)

137 Sinatra's birthday today. Siriusly Sinatra all day long.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 11:58 AM (+fTAB)

138 My brand new AR is in the safe. If it looks okay later, may run a couple of mags thru it

Posted by: jsg at December 12, 2020 11:58 AM (v/0lN)

139 Call your local Democrats Propaganda ministry outlet and let them know the entire Hunter/ Sundowner China and Ukraine connection, they seem to be just slowly looking into it.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:59 AM (Cxk7w)

140 I was surprised we got to have an actual service for my cousin who passed away on Thanksgiving Day. there were about 80 people at the funeral mass.

The COVID kept away at least that many though.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 12:00 PM (DJFLF)

141 Total deaths in my county:
2018: 1797
2019: 1870
2020: 1707*

*(counted up until Nov 20 of this year, with 86 of this number attributed to Covid).

Posted by: MikeM at December 12, 2020 12:00 PM (np8OD)

142 sorry for your loss. I don't know the details about this. I don't know if you were kept away because of covid, or some other reason. I do know it must be strange to watch this service online. Maybe many have done such a thing but it is new to me. I am very old fashioned and not the biggest net fan.

I couldn't have attended because of covid. I don't care for online services. But it allowed me to watch.
He

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 12, 2020 12:00 PM (lgiXo)

143 Sinatra's birthday today. Siriusly Sinatra all day long.

That's a great station. And I knew Sammy Davis, Jr. was a singer(who could forget Candyman), but how talented he was.

Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (b7N2Q)

144 I'll take that bet. At least a quarter of the population is conditioned to masks and social distance crap now. They'll never let go of it.
Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (7jTtI)

They like their masks. It confers a certain social cachet, a group fuzzy feeling. I can see it. They even wear them out into the parking lots, almost happily.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (H8QX8)

145 Mike Flynn is onstage in DC. He is likening what we are going through to the Battle of Jericho. It is appropriate.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (946rW)

146 "
Covid will disappear in March.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:44 AM"

Too useful. They're going to hang on for quite a while.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (EEVQU)

147 There are four lights.

Posted by: Flyover... at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (Rbu5d)

148 there is a recall petition for Governor hairdo.

Good! "Governor Hairdo". I laughed.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (WkPC9)

149 I think Sunday morning still but use to be Saturday night the talk station that carries Rush and Levin play Sanatra a few hours, have been doing so at least last 40 years

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (Cxk7w)

150 Every exception to a rule undermines how serious the concern is.
I stopped believing how bad the disease around BLM/riot time.

Posted by: Mitchofsorts at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (wnUeE)

151 guess I'll go do some werk or at least try

Maybe stop back for the garden and critters of the forest and field thread

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (DJFLF)

152 Has HCQ fallen out of favor? Or is it just that it
is difficult to obtain right now? I think I heard CCP and other
"important" people have been hoarding HCQ.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (ofYez)

the ruskies? no, sorry, that is CCCP.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (3frqk)

153 Hahahahahaahahahah, you mean when commercial real estate collapses? And all the restaurants have finally gone under?
Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 11:56 AM (UUBmN)

I know you're not in a good place right now but as soon as it's allowed, businesses that have gone under will be replaced by others or maybe the same people if the demand is there. You may be correct about Commercial real estate though as companies have seen the cost savings from working at home. I think though that it will stabilize.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (2DOZq)

154 The airline was United. That 2 year old has more common sense than the monsters who work at and run the airline.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma, The Queen of Sheba Elect at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (8/7u2
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I get United's emails, the other day received one that proudly proclaimed United would be carbon neutral by 2050 because they are fighting the good fight against climate change!

I'm thinking maybe United isn't such a great airline to fly, if there's one thing I want out of an airline it's lots and lots of energy being expended on my behalf if I'm 8 miles high in one of their planes.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (oGBso)

155
I will join with millions of others to celebrate a Mass Mask Burning at whichever Public Square is chosen for the event.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim

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I believe this is the only way It will Begin.

They squeeze us juuuuust a little too hard.

We show we're not afraid.

They laugh nervously and withdraw a tad. Then cautiously squeeze again, maybe not so hard this time.

Finally at some point we march on the Capitol and we won't let them out until they repeal everything and everyone.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (W04rT)

156 a lady who was clearly 29 and i got into a discussion about the ChiCom Crud restrictions here in Lost Angels, #Failifornia, and she asked "when is all this going to stop?"

i said "when you stop listening to them telling you what you can and can't do."

the light dawning on her face was a beautiful thing to see...

what's sad is that it never occurred to her on her own to think of that.

if the sheep don't look up pretty soon, they are doomed.

as a sheepdog, i'm pretty much past the point of giving a fuck about them.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2020 12:03 PM (nG8Bv)

157 He was 20 years older than me and we had different mothers so I didn't grow up with him. In fact his children were more like cousins than nephews and niece's.
But, still brother and there is grief.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 12, 2020 12:03 PM (lgiXo)

158 ...but it also means i wasted a good portion of my life, my health, and my life expectancy, for nothing.

what the fuck was i thinking?

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2020 12:04 PM (nG8Bv)

159 PSA: Classic Firearms is giving away a Barrett .50 BMG. It's kind of interesting, you can add entries for liking their stuff on social media, watching promo vids etc. They are a solid company. Their vids are great for entry level to full-tilt gun nuts.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:04 PM (7Fj9P)

160 Posted by: MikeM at December 12, 2020 12:00 PM

That statistic nationwide will be the tale in 2 or 3 years to compare to last year. Anyone who was rushed out to the pearly gates won't show up on it.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:04 PM (Cxk7w)

161 160 About 7,000 Americans die daily without Covid-19.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:05 PM (Cxk7w)

162
Ivan E. Raiklin Retweeted
Christian Johnson
@Christi98714181

@GOP
@ PAGop @gop_wisconsin
@AZGOP
@GaRepublicans
@MIGOP
@NVGOP
We need to stay strong! Contact Legislators!The Dems are gloating right now because they think the Supreme Court was the only option! That is what happens when you listen to MSM! Buck up boys and girls!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 12:05 PM (QUOVv)

163 I'm sorry you're living under that tyrant Newsom. I wish him a swift fall from power. Good on your sheriff for resisting his authoritarian decrees.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 12, 2020 12:05 PM (d9Cw3)

164 PSA: Classic Firearms is giving away a Barrett .50
BMG. It's kind of interesting, you can add entries for liking their
stuff on social media, watching promo vids etc. They are a solid
company. Their vids are great for entry level to full-tilt gun nuts.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:04 PM (7Fj9P)

Link please:-)

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 12:06 PM (946rW)

165 Every exception to a rule undermines how serious the concern is.
I stopped believing how bad the disease around BLM/riot time.

I knew when they claimed masks work. Yes, they probably do to some effect, but only under ideal conditions. Do you know the CDC recommends masks be change after every usage? How many people are doing that?

Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 12:06 PM (b7N2Q)

166 159 wooow

Posted by: vmom - Trump Won! at December 12, 2020 12:06 PM (6qTc2)

167 ARMY NAVY GAME
3 PM

At West Point

Go Navy

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:06 PM (85Gof)

168 Okay, time for another coffee.

Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 12:07 PM (b7N2Q)

169 You may be correct about Commercial real estate though as companies have seen the cost savings from working at home. I think though that it will stabilize.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (2DOZq)
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Downtowns in many cities across the country are empty right now, and are too dangerous to even visit. The criminal class has been released from jails and prisons because of the Chyna virus, and crime is skyrocketing. Armed Carjacking of cars stopped at red lights is becoming a thing, you can't drive through many cities now. That driver in NYC yesterday whose car was being beaten on by the BLM thugs, she took off in fear of her life, hit of few of the thugs, and now she has been arrested.

The new normal, if it comes to pass, is no more middle class. There will be serfs, and there will be the elites. The small business/merchant class that is the backbone of the US is being systematically ground to dust.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 12, 2020 12:07 PM (oGBso)

170 About those 'lockdowns'...meet the ultimate anti-establishment dude.

https://tinyurl.com/y4vmraqw

This guy is base and lit...say hello to Dr Shiva

Posted by: CPT. Charles at December 12, 2020 12:07 PM (W+kMI)

171 I know we'll never get this information, but I'd like to know how many people died from lack or delayed access to medical treatments. Cancer, heart, etc.

My father had a significant heart issue last week and was hospitalized for three days. Local crappy hospital can't figure out the cause, so he gets sent home and was told to talk to his cardiologist, because, by the way, 30% of his heart isn't working and he 'probably' needs stents. Cardiologist gives him an appointment TWO WEEKS out, just to evaluate. Now we sit and wait his heart doesn't give out til then? It is unbelievably upsetting.

Posted by: squeakywheel at December 12, 2020 12:07 PM (l1C8z)

172 the ruskies? no, sorry, that is CCCP.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (3frqk)

The Chinese Communist Party, you know, the Important People in China.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:08 PM (ofYez)

173 General Flynn speaking now.

"This is not about President Donald Trump. This is about us . This is about America."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 12:08 PM (QUOVv)

174 "what's sad is that it never occurred to her on her own to think of that."

**
A lot of that going around. Way more than I first thought. So many American sheep it's scary.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2020 12:08 PM (H8QX8)

175 Do you know the CDC recommends masks be change after every usage? How many people are doing that?
Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 12:06 PM (b7N2Q)

I've been wearing the same one I got in May. Just plain old black cloth But I seldom wear it, aside from going into a store. I average about ten to 20 minutes a day wearing the face diaper. Often not at all. I would go nuts if I had to wear it all day like the poor employees.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2020 12:09 PM (x8Wzq)

176 Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)

Sort of like people here who I might agree with 100% but will skip their posts because they don't know how not to be an asshole when expressing their point.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 11:52 AM (2DOZq)

You gotta do what you gotta do. Everyone's an asshole, it's just a matter of what you're willing to tolerate and what you're not.

I try not to miss valuable information though, and sometimes when an asshole is presenting it, I'll absorb the info, just to SPITE them.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:09 PM (hku12)

177 Do you know the CDC recommends masks be change after every usage? How many people are doing that?
Posted by: Unkaren

They didn't even recommend that at the hospitals I've worked at... one mask per day (mark the date on the mask and hang it outside the TB (reverse air flow) rooms for everyone that had to go in over and over.

Bugs said it best: what an ultra-maroon.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at December 12, 2020 12:09 PM (gtatv)

178 @141

Listen, this entire thing was one big scam and op, it was apparent way back in February, we are where we are largely due to this bullshit.

We keep Chicken fucking the same G-d damn numbers.

It's like counting the same fraudulent ballots and expecting a different tabulation.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at December 12, 2020 12:09 PM (V9+3c)

179 Oh no fans at the Army Navy game

Only the 2 CORPS

And the Point is shut down like a prison

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:10 PM (85Gof)

180 I just threw the lights at the tree. I'm avoiding going up on the roof and adding some strands. I finally figured out the right clip system, and my shit looks half assed.
I'm really nursing a resentment that every Christmas, I am the designated lighting engineer.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:12 PM (7Fj9P)

181
Blonde Morticia, ignore the eyores
Trump is still fighting
He has earned our support
Posted by: vmom - Trump Won!

=========

Yes, he is still fighting. I'm always exhorting others to get out and march, so I guess I'd better.

When the big Romanian-style march finally happens in DC in which we take down our own Ceaucescu, I'll be there for that.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:12 PM (W04rT)

182 Dear Google user: If you're inactive for 2 years (24 months) in Gmail, Drive or Photos, we may delete the content in the product(s) in which you're inactive. If you exceed your storage limit for 2 years, we may delete your content across Gmail, Drive and Photos.

As diff, met Sinatra. He chewed me out at a party once. A loooong time ago

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 12:12 PM (YJG+R)

183 Finally at some point we march on the Capitol and we won't let them out until they repeal everything and everyone.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (W04rT)

I am eagerly awaiting this part.

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (zNpyh)

184 It is strange that UA has a good place kicker

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (+fTAB)

185 Where is Army/ Navy being played?
Sure Emperor Wolf won't let it at the Link

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (Cxk7w)

186 Masks are fun and fashionable. Stay safe.

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (W4eKo)

187 The Fresno County Sherrif could have made his point clearer, and with a rhetorical flourish: "My officers don't have time to enforce your 'rules'. They have their hands full enforcing all the LAWS passed by both houses of the state legislature and signed into law by various governors. Maybe you should try asking them to pass one of those."

Posted by: Dr. Weevil at December 12, 2020 12:14 PM (IOY/+)

188 Worst flight I ever endured was a United sardine can. It was better than being buried alive down the road from Stalingrad.

Posted by: klaftern at December 12, 2020 12:14 PM (RuIsu)

189 BBL I have a Christmas tree to set up & decorate. Just like the Who's in Whoville, I'm not letting the grinches and communists and demoncrats take Christmas away from me.

:-)

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (oGBso)

190 And 2 Corp watching, So about 60,000?

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (Cxk7w)

191
if the sheep don't look up pretty soon, they are doomed.

as a sheepdog, i'm pretty much past the point of giving a fuck about them.
Posted by: redc1c4

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Friend o' mine was telling me about the sheep in her bible study group. Just so sheepish she can't believe it. "Newsom says to. So we will."

I'm not a sheepdog because I'm not going to lift a paw or a whisker to keep those creatures away from the cliffside or the wolves or the bad weather. Not sure what animal I am. Maybe a honey badger.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (W04rT)

192 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 11:51 AM (946rW)

Thank you, dear.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (WkPC9)

193 Where is Army/ Navy being played?
Sure Emperor Wolf won't let it at the Link
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (Cxk7

At West Point

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:16 PM (85Gof)

194 I guess we'll get the tree up this weekend...maybe.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 12:16 PM (UUBmN)

195 182, whose party?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:16 PM (+fTAB)

196 I would bet there have been more suicides of 20 years and under than their Covid-19 deaths.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 11:55 AM

Failing grades are up by over 35% in my area across all grades in the schools. A complete loss of a year for every kid in school.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2020 12:17 PM (axyOa)

197 Link to Barrett give away:
https://tinyurl.com/y3u6xham
Scroll down to see all the options to add entries. Note: some of these refresh daily, and some of them can be gamed.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:17 PM (7Fj9P)

198 United ate pur money when the covid cancelled our flights
Fuckers

Posted by: vmom - Trump Won! at December 12, 2020 12:17 PM (6qTc2)

199 Has HCQ fallen out of favor? Or is it just that it is difficult to obtain right now? I think I heard CCP and other "important" people have been hoarding HCQ.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (ofYez)

Famines have been, for most of human history, political events. Most of the damage done by famines is a result of the supply being cut off by someone in power, in order to consolidate power, or... straight up kill their enemies.

It would be hard to execute a famine in the U.S., but you sure as hell can create panic, which is almost as effective. Just look at our toilet paper situation back in March.

So, which medications are readily available, and which ones are not? Where's the data demonstrating the effectiveness of same?

I don't know. We'd have to ask our leaders, and they don't seem to be all that eager to let us know.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:17 PM (hku12)

200 180 I just threw the lights at the tree. I'm avoiding going up on the roof and adding some strands. I finally figured out the right clip system, and my shit looks half assed.
I'm really nursing a resentment that every Christmas, I am the designated lighting engineer.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:12 PM (7Fj9P)

Just staple them to your house and leave them until they burn out. Then repeat.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:18 PM (bCLt0)

201 44 Forget the Texas case, these lockdowns have already proven the Constitution isn't worth the parchment it's written on. Amazing how easily our population was cowed by the flu.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 12, 2020 11:36 AM (4NtsG)

THIS! THIS! THIS! If you're still wearing a mask, you're part of the problem.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 12, 2020 12:18 PM (Fs5vw)

202 Friend o' mine was telling me about the sheep in her bible study group. Just so sheepish she can't believe it. "Newsom says to. So we will."

I'm not a sheepdog because I'm not going to lift a paw or a whisker to keep those creatures away from the cliffside or the wolves or the bad weather. Not sure what animal I am. Maybe a honey badger.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (W04rT)
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Meanwhile, our Pastor says, "Open for business" and is receiving hate from some attendees of our church. To which he responded, "I've not much interest in the word of man when it is in conflict with the word of God."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 12, 2020 12:18 PM (WEBkv)

203 Where is Army/ Navy being played?
Sure Emperor Wolf won't let it at the Link
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (Cxk7

At West Point
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:16 PM (85Gof)

Prettiest place ever for a football game in the fall.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 12:19 PM (2DOZq)

204 Man this girl on the Washington march really has a screechy, annoying voice.

Posted by: President Elect Lebron Horowitz at December 12, 2020 12:19 PM (UFgOG)

205 Our church is open but they ask us to wear mask.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 12:19 PM (UUBmN)

206 Where is Army/ Navy being played?
Sure Emperor Wolf won't let it at the Link
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:13 PM (Cxk7

At West Point
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:16 PM (85Gof)

Prettiest place ever for a football game in the fall.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 12:19 PM (2DOZq)

Last time the Game was played at West Point was 1943

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

207 Heh. Some wag (emperor intelwave) posted a tweet:

"Just noticed all the men's S and women's XXL sizes are sold out on AOC's merch shop"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at December 12, 2020 12:20 PM (ZSK0i)

208 Friend o' mine was telling me about the sheep in her bible study group. Just so sheepish she can't believe it. "Newsom says to. So we will."

I'm not a sheepdog because I'm not going to lift a paw or a whisker to keep those creatures away from the cliffside or the wolves or the bad weather. Not sure what animal I am. Maybe a honey badger.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (W04rT)

Skunks are tremendously effective at being able to clear out other animals (of course), so what they do sometimes is wait for the bunnies or other cute furry critters to set up a den... then they arrive.

The cute critters leave behind all the goodies they've gathered, and the nice cozy den.

I'm thinking of adopting the ways of the skunk, when the time comes.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:21 PM (hku12)

209 For Believers, our current crisis is extremely tough, in a lot of cases. Divided opinions in individual churches as to the proper course of action going forward.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:21 PM (bCLt0)

210 Failing grades are up by over 35% in my area across all grades in the schools. A complete loss of a year for every kid in school.
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My wife is an admin. in a top-notch H.S. music program. They start the kids out in the 3rd grade. The one strings teacher broke down in tears, explaining the impossibility of teaching little kids over Zoom how to properly place your fingers. "Turn your hand, no, shift, now turn your hands so I can see what you're doing..."
They're wrecking a generation of kids.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:21 PM (7Fj9P)

211 Last time the Game was played at West Point was 1943
Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

Never went to a Army-Navy game but have gone to a number of other Army home games.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 12:21 PM (2DOZq)

212
I am eagerly awaiting this part.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON

========

Me too. I hope these little stopthesteal breakouts can help the big one happen.

I'm afraid I won't be around much if the election goes to hell, however. I'm just gutless that way. I just don't want to know stuff; just too scared and miserable. I'll ask news-attentive friends if the big march is going to happen and I'll high-tail it there.

If I were more energetic I'd try to start a morons' politics-free alternative blog where people like us can gather to talk about literally anything but politics. Like Saturday threads all the time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:23 PM (W04rT)

213 Last time the Game was played at West Point was 1943

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 12, 2020 12:20 PM (85Gof)

didn't they win some time during the war? I recall that for some reason.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 12:23 PM (3frqk)

214 Listen, this entire thing was one big scam and op, it was apparent way back in February, we are where we are largely due to this bullshit.
We keep Chicken fucking the same G-d damn numbers.
Posted by: Thomas Bender
I agree with you. I just wonder if we had total deaths, for 2018, 2019, 2020, from counties all over the country. People would see that nothing is happening.
We have a bunch of people, even here, cowering in fear over the covid, *Oh, my friend of a friend has it, and it seems really bad.*
Yeah, your friend with at least two serious pre-existing illnesses, may die of the flu. It happens.

Posted by: MikeM at December 12, 2020 12:23 PM (np8OD)

215 Arkansas is going to run out of trick plays soon, they are using them all.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:23 PM (+fTAB)

216 Just saw a Viking Christmas sweater.

"Deck the halls with skulls and bodies
Fa la la la la, la Val Hal La"

I think I need this.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 12, 2020 12:24 PM (Vxu+H)

217 Thank you, dear.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (WkPC9)

You are welcome Fen:-)

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 12:24 PM (946rW)

218 I have found that reasoning with the terrified of the Rona crowd is hopeless.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:24 PM (bCLt0)

219 Just one more morning
I had to wake up with the blues
Pulled myself out of bed
Put on my walking shoes

Went up on the mountain
To see what I could see
The whole world was falling
Right down in front of me

Posted by: Birth Pangs at December 12, 2020 12:25 PM (uc+oy)

220 I need to go bake some gingerbread cookies

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 12:25 PM (UUBmN)

221 I once applied Ivermectin on my girlfriend's dog's bunghole and it help him not drag his ass on the carpet for worms.

Or something.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 12, 2020 12:25 PM (WOYcU)

222 Listening to Satriani on Pandora. So far, Satriani, Buckethead, John Petrucci, Gary Hoey. I'm sure Steve Vai will show up.

Lyric-less guitar rock makes great background music.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at December 12, 2020 12:25 PM (OssQ4)

223
I once applied Ivermectin on my girlfriend's dog's bunghole and it help him not drag his ass on the carpet for worms.

Or something.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 12, 2020 12:25 PM (WOYcU)

you must have really liked her.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 12:26 PM (3frqk)

224 Now do sanctuary cities Newsom

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at December 12, 2020 12:26 PM (8Ou+H)

225 Meanwhile, our Pastor says, "Open for business" and is receiving hate from some attendees of our church. To which he responded, "I've not much interest in the word of man when it is in conflict with the word of God."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 12, 2020 12:18 PM (WEBkv)

We need more like him (and Fr. Altman).

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 12:26 PM (Ed8Zd)

226 Failing grades are up by over 35% in my area across all grades in the schools. A complete loss of a year for every kid in school.
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My wife is an admin. in a top-notch H.S. music program. They start the kids out in the 3rd grade. The one strings teacher broke down in tears, explaining the impossibility of teaching little kids over Zoom how to properly place your fingers. "Turn your hand, no, shift, now turn your hands so I can see what you're doing..."
They're wrecking a generation of kids.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:21 PM

***

I was an adjunct at the local University and watching them destroy themselves on the alter of SJW doesn't bother me at all. But watching the education system run the lives of their students just rips me. I tutor my grandkids on the side. They are doing OK but GAWD! The waste that is going on.

Posted by: Diogenes at December 12, 2020 12:27 PM (axyOa)

227
Meanwhile, our Pastor says, "Open for business" and is receiving hate from some attendees of our church. To which he responded, "I've not much interest in the word of man when it is in conflict with the word of God."
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

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Good man.

As for the failing kids and the music teacher in tears... it's not only the kids whose lives are being wasted I see. Some teachers are in it because they love to teach. Of course those are the ones who must be stopped. Anyway, a mass of eager consumers and a mass of eager producers being kept from each other. Insane.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:28 PM (W04rT)

228 I agree with you. I just wonder if we had total deaths, for 2018, 2019, 2020, from counties all over the country. People would see that nothing is happening.
We have a bunch of people, even here, cowering in fear over the covid, *Oh, my friend of a friend has it, and it seems really bad.*
Yeah, your friend with at least two serious pre-existing illnesses, may die of the flu. It happens.
Posted by: MikeM at December 12, 2020 12:23 PM (np8OD)

I think it must be patently obvious to all, that the flow of information is being controlled, and whatever the truth is about ANY of this must be questioned.

Including the anecdotal stories people tell about this person or that, who supposedly got really really sick and/or died from the Covids.

We only "know" people are getting sick and dying from the Covids because they tell us it's the Covids.

Meanwhile, is anybody tracking all these other bugs that cull the population, year after year after year? What do those numbers tell us about death? What's DIFFERENT about death this year, other than the fact that EVERYONE is overly focused on this ONE thing?

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:28 PM (hku12)

229 I have found that reasoning with the terrified of the Rona crowd is hopeless.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:24 PM (bCLt0)

True. It's all platitudes and generalities with them.
Faced with facts, its "well, you never know."
Followed by "better safe than sorry"' "It's not worth the risk"; "they know more than us"; blah blah blah.

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 12:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

230 My wife is a weirdo. My kid went to a bday party last week. About 10 kids there plus parents. No objections, But she will not allow the same kid to have a sleepover with two friends cuz da Covid.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:29 PM (22mNy)

231 Heh.

When I worked for the City I carried a beeper (no cell phones back then) that would go off when there was a murder with a kid involved.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at December 12, 2020 12:32 PM (EZebt)

232 Ivan E. Raiklin
@Raiklin
�
2h
#ThePlan Q A session at the DC Rally!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 12:32 PM (QUOVv)

233 I'm afraid I won't be around much if the election goes to hell, however. I'm just gutless that way. I just don't want to know stuff; just too scared and miserable. I'll ask news-attentive friends if the big march is going to happen and I'll high-tail it there.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:23 PM (W04rT)

I could've written this myself. I feel the exact same way.

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at December 12, 2020 12:32 PM (zNpyh)

234 218 tubal

Even those of us that have had it and, actually, can relate our own experiences, cannot stop the Karens, who seem to think the cousin's b-i-l uncle's sister story of their BFF on FB is a more credible source. They have exactly zero empathy for those who lost jobs or businesses, bc, of course, their govt paycheck never stops. I've decided they are selfish hypocrites, who like to portray themselves as "caring," as long as someone bears the burden.

Posted by: EveR at December 12, 2020 12:32 PM (DsGxB)

235 This seems a kinder, gentler HQ than the Weekday HQ I frequent.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:32 PM (bCLt0)

236 Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 11:46 AM (UUBmN)

Hi, Lin-duh!

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:33 PM (ofYez)

237 CodeMonkeyZ posting a lot of pictures of governors posing with Chinese officials right now. I had no idea so many states had a foreign policy.
Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (2nFxy)

Remember all that sister city BS with chinese cities? Important vector for graft for mayors that now have worked their way up the graft ladder.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at December 12, 2020 12:33 PM (8Ou+H)

238 Ohhhhh NGU, not on Cuomo's watch!
I get it now

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:33 PM (Cxk7w)

239 229 I have found that reasoning with the terrified of the Rona crowd is hopeless.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:24 PM (bCLt0)

True. It's all platitudes and generalities with them.
Faced with facts, its "well, you never know."
Followed by "better safe than sorry"' "It's not worth the risk"; "they know more than us"; blah blah blah.
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 12:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

If it saves just one life!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 12, 2020 12:33 PM (H3MF8)

240 We were having church services outside while the weather was warm enough. It's now too cold for that. The alternative is to sit in the half filled sanctuary in a mask, w/my glasses fogging up. I did it twice. I refuse to do that any more. I will stream Alastair Begg sermons instead.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:34 PM (7Fj9P)

241 Hubby just had it; he's fine. The dr. told him to not come in for negative test but just to assume he's fine 10 days after symptoms started unless he still felt bad. Dr said the virus can linger in small amounts for months leading to what is a misleading 'positive' result. I assume this is the same w/any flu.
The dr. was exasperated with people who don't have symptoms getting tested.
BTW, hubby felt fine after about 5 days.

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 12:34 PM (Ed8Zd)

242 This country is like the Martians in War of the Worlds. It's being killed by the smallest of things.

Posted by: Justsayin' at December 12, 2020 12:34 PM (Fs5vw)

243 @LLinWood

American Patriots be prepared.

Events will unfold quickly over next several days.

Listen to @realDonaldTrump

CCP attacked our country with a biological weapon. CCP attacked us again to steal election.

CCP wants our land to grow food.

We shall NEVER let them take it.

Pray.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 12:34 PM (QUOVv)

244
Failing grades are up by over 35% in my area across all grades in the schools. A complete loss of a year for every kid in school.
----------------
My wife is an admin. in a top-notch H.S. music program. They start the kids out in the 3rd grade. The one strings teacher broke down in tears, explaining the impossibility of teaching little kids over Zoom how to properly place your fingers. "Turn your hand, no, shift, now turn your hands so I can see what you're doing..."
They're wrecking a generation of kids.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

=========

I can think of three wasted opportunities like this in my own young learning life -- foreign language, piano, and science. The regret and anger over this stays with me to this day. Maybe these kids will rebel about ten years down the road and reject the COVID years with 60s-like fervor.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:35 PM (W04rT)

245 Has HCQ fallen out of favor? Or is it just that it is difficult to obtain right now?

Unobtainium, harder to find than ammo

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:35 PM (aCezw)

246
You may be correct about Commercial real estate though as companies have seen the cost savings from working at home. I think though that it will stabilize.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 12:02 PM (2DOZq)

It would help the Commercial Real Estate market if they would actually answer their phones, update their online listings and pull down their sale/lease signs off of properties. I've been trying to find some small warehouse/shop space to lease and it's like no one's interested in getting anything rented out. No answers to phones or emails etc. If they do answer, there's a distinct air of "that's rented out, now leave me alone" about their responses.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2020 12:35 PM (EGyGV)

247 ...Sloe Joe is almost certainly going to issue a lockdown order nationally.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:24 AM (22mNy)

This why Creepy Prevy Uncle Joe got 180 million votes more than Trump and Obama combined - People Are Scared!*

*Registered catch phrase of the 2020 Kamala-Buden For Life Commitee.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2020 12:36 PM (/Dgcm)

248 https://recallgovkemp.com/

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 12:36 PM (QUOVv)

249 To all California Morons - hell, to all American, Canadian, Mexican, and Central American Morons, since everyone can now vote, even some American citizens:

Here is the link: recallgavin2020.com. I'm going to sign the recall petition today.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (jhFDc)

250 My church has been open, fully, since the beginning of May. Some attend wearing a mask. I would say 90% don't. There is always the streamed church option.Our attendence has built back up to near normal. Really blessed to be able to worship corporately.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (bCLt0)

251 No one will answer my question about what we are going to do with the next moderately bad flu season, lock down the world again?

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (aCezw)

252 I watched a documentary about White Boys Rick, a teenager from Detroit who was sentenced to life for drug dealing in the 80s. Fucking life for a non violent crime as a 17 year old. The fbi, doj and Detroit police all conspired to ruin this kid because he got in the way of their own drug dealing operations. And then in 2015 a judge said this is fucked up release this guy and the current DA said nope, appealed it and got that reversed. The DA was connected to the former mayor of Detroit 30 years later.

The corruption and graft has been there for a long long time. We just know about it more now thanks to the internet. But It is nothing new.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (22mNy)

253 243
@LLinWood

American Patriots be prepared.
ruh roh
better stock up my freezer and gas up the car

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 12:38 PM (DJFLF)

254 121...
I don't know if you've, heard but I've read a claim that it's more important than EVAH to wear a mask after being vaccinated.
Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 11:54 AM (b7N2Q)

Gallows humor: i first read that as "...after being executed."

Posted by: Flyover... at December 12, 2020 12:38 PM (Rbu5d)

255 Sloe Joe is almost certainly going to issue a lockdown order nationally.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 11:24 AM (22mNy)

I guess he will the lead in responding to the Chinese flu by hiding in the basement.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 12, 2020 12:38 PM (lgiXo)

256 And I knew Sammy Davis, Jr. was a singer(who could forget Candyman), but how talented he was.
Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (b7N2Q)

Yup....Sammy once said the most talented fella he knew was Walden Robert Cassotto.

We know him as Bobby Darin.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 12:38 PM (R/m4+)

257 The mask shows that you really care.

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at December 12, 2020 12:38 PM (W4eKo)

258 We shall NEVER let them take it.
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No, they're not taking it, they're buying it, Lin. They bought 185K (?!) acres in TX, adjacent to an AF base. Morning Star "ranch", IIRC.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (7Fj9P)

259 235 This seems a kinder, gentler HQ than the Weekday HQ I frequent.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:32 PM (bCLt0)

The day is still young.

I keed, I keed...

Posted by: browndog at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (BgMrQ)

260 My GP, who is taking hydroxychloroquine as a prophylactic, said to limit the quercetinto to around 40 mg a day. Didn't ask why.

Posted by: Javems at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (8SSHh)

261
I could've written this myself. I feel the exact same way.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON

=========

I've been news-free for about the past three weeks to a month, and it's been an amazing mood-lightener, but I've missed the horde and I feel like a deserter. That's why I'd like a politics-free ace annex beyond the Saturday threads. I'm generous with other people's resources that way.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (W04rT)

262 Joe Dirt may issue his Mandate. He may also kiss my ass. We won't comply here. Sorry about that, Joe.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (bCLt0)

263 251 No one will answer my question about what we are going to do with the next moderately bad flu season, lock down the world again?
Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (aCezw)

Yes.
Be safe.

Posted by: Your Betters (tm)... at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (Rbu5d)

264 https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/12/ yesterdays biggest story dominion voting machines caught manipulating votes per forensic investigation

No human error, provable algorithm by the voting machine

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 12:40 PM (Cxk7w)

265 83 I've quit all my normal sites since the steal. I come here, will glance at free republic, and a few select Twitter accounts even though I don't have one. That's it. I've been trying to keep busy and read non political books.
Posted by: lin-duh 11:46 AM (UUBmN)

Is your offer pastrami / Austinistan still on the table?

Posted by: Mongerel at December 12, 2020 12:40 PM (wmDtA)

266 No one will answer my question about what we are going to do with the next moderately bad flu season, lock down the world again?
Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (aCezw)

I just assume that's a given. Every recent exceptional outbreak we've seen, whether it was Swine Flu or Sars 1, we didn't do anything like that, and I think that's a thing of the past.

So yeah, maybe not every flu season (which is every year), but every time they can, they will.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:42 PM (hku12)

267 So much anger. So much hate.

Like the man said,

All that hate's gonna burn you up, son.
Yes, it will.

Posted by: Trump cheats at golf at December 12, 2020 12:42 PM (P+v+o)

268
Listening to Satriani on Pandora. So far, Satriani, Buckethead, John Petrucci, Gary Hoey. I'm sure Steve Vai will show up.

Lyric-less guitar rock makes great background music.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist (bofa/deez) at December 12, 2020 12:25 PM (OssQ4)

Eric Johnson (I've had the song "SRV" as an earworm for about two weeks now).

The only problem with EJ is that he keeps trying to sing.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 12, 2020 12:42 PM (EGyGV)

269 Jean, they will not answer your question because it is too awkward and divisive for the " Agenda" being pushed. Masks are not for disease, they are for politics.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:42 PM (bCLt0)

270 Lockdowns.... the Mrs was required by a retail outlet this morning for her name and phone number to enter and shop.

She gave them the name of a dead neighbor and a phone number that resolved to 201-EAT-SHIT.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 12, 2020 12:43 PM (WQZ1O)

271 I asked a Leftist relative, concerning Lockdowns, what is the end game? Silence.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:44 PM (bCLt0)

272
Lockdowns.... the Mrs was required by a retail outlet this morning for her name and phone number to enter and shop.

She gave them the name of a dead neighbor and a phone number that resolved to 201-EAT-SHIT.
Posted by: BluesFish

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I like it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:44 PM (W04rT)

273 Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (W04rT)

TV and Radio are banned from our home.

There are four lights.

Posted by: Your Betters (tm)... at December 12, 2020 12:44 PM (Rbu5d)

274 Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (bCLt0)

That's great! We have been open since the 5th of July. We are very small and when we were closed we put our service on Youtube, but our head church official thanks people who are moving services online. Great! but we can't do live streaming as we don't have a phone or internet connection, so we 'd have to tape it in advance and upload it or whatever you call it which takes forever. The phone line for the church is my phone. I think if the Bishop wants to have live streaming he should pay for the the smaller. less affluent churches to have that. After all, we've always been very good paying our yearly tax which goes towards the denomination "dues".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 12:45 PM (WkPC9)

275 I can think of three wasted opportunities like this in my own young learning life -- foreign language, piano, and science. The regret and anger over this stays with me to this day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:35 PM (W04rT)

It's not too late. Try Duolingo for languages, and Khan Academy (or MIT Courseware) for science. Piano, I've got nuthin'.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 12:45 PM (jhFDc)

276 Joe Dirt may issue his Mandate. He may also kiss my ass. We won't comply here. Sorry about that, Joe.
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Yeah, I know the former Speaker of the House in MO. I told him he needs to get his buddies in Jeff City to self designate MO a 2-A and mask sanctuary state. It worked for the prog-tards.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:45 PM (7Fj9P)

277
It's not too late. Try Duolingo for languages, and Khan Academy (or MIT Courseware) for science. Piano, I've got nuthin'.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

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Oh, I know. It's just that I could have been fvcking trilingual by the time I was 20 if they'd let me.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:45 PM (W04rT)

278 I could've written this myself. I feel the exact same way.
Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON

=========

I've been news-free for about the past three weeks to a month, and it's been an amazing mood-lightener, but I've missed the horde and I feel like a deserter. That's why I'd like a politics-free ace annex beyond the Saturday threads. I'm generous with other people's resources that way.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:39 PM (W04rT)

While I generally avoid the scrum here, I do occasionally want to know what everyone else is saying.

So even on the heavily "political" threads here, I've taken to skimming past all the usual talk, pick out the key words in the comments (or avoid certain commenters altogether), and if it contains a subject I'm interested in, I'll read it. If it doesn't, I won't.

So in that sense, AoSHQ is already the alternate, "politics-free" site for me. When I want it to be.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:46 PM (hku12)

279 Lockdowns.... the Mrs was required by a retail outlet this morning for her name and phone number to enter and shop.

She gave them the name of a dead neighbor and a phone number that resolved to 201-EAT-SHIT.
Posted by: BluesFish

Harry Balzac has been doing a lot of shopping around here recently.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 12:46 PM (jhFDc)

280 Thank you, Hordesters, for sharing your perspectives on HCQ use and availability. I'm interested in effective treatments that are superior alternatives to what the liars are pushing, like vaccines. I heard one doctor say we could end the epidemic in a matter of months if enough people took one Ivermectin pill per month for three months.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:46 PM (ofYez)

281 F'ing troll is in.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:47 PM (7Fj9P)

282 256 And I knew Sammy Davis, Jr. was a singer(who could forget Candyman), but how talented he was.
Posted by: Unkaren at December 12, 2020 12:01 PM (b7N2Q)

Yup....Sammy once said the most talented fella he knew was Walden Robert Cassotto.

We know him as Bobby Darin.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 12:38 PM (R/m4+)

Bobby Darin was great! I hadn't heard this story before, but it reminds me of a similar situation.

Carl Reiner was a guest on the Tonight Show, and Carson asked the great comedy film director who was the funniest guy in the world.

Reiner said something to the effect of, "Well, there's two... Mel Brooks, and this little twelve-year-old friend of my son Meathead, named Albert Einstein."

This kid Albert went on to a pretty good career in Hollywood. He couldn't really use his real name, though, for reasons you can probably guess. Since such an authoritative source had mentioned him in the same sentence as Mel Brooks, he adopted Brooks as his stage name. Albert Brooks.

Another related fact... Albert's brother Bob Einstein also became a famous comedian, under the name "Super Dave" Osborne.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 12, 2020 12:48 PM (H3MF8)

283
TV and Radio are banned from our home.

There are four lights.
Posted by: Your Betters (tm)

=========

Haven't had either in years. Like I said, looking for some good white noise. I've got the first six seasons of Frasier memorized, but maybe I can circle back to them. Audible has some classics for free.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:48 PM (W04rT)

284 Harry Balzac has been doing a lot of shopping around here recently.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 12:46 PM (jhFDc)

Good old Harry!

Jack Mehoff says hello.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 12:48 PM (R/m4+)

285 250 My church has been open, fully, since the beginning of May. Some attend wearing a mask. I would say 90% don't. There is always the streamed church option.Our attendence has built back up to near normal. Really blessed to be able to worship corporately.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:37 PM (bCLt0)

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Ours open since early May as well, some masks, most not. Unfortunately we have many who insist on remaining home unless masks are mandated for all.

Affiant further sayeth naught.

Posted by: CZ = FNG To Remain Silent Because, FNG at December 12, 2020 12:49 PM (MkuC5)

286 276 Joe Dirt may issue his Mandate. He may also kiss my ass. We won't comply here. Sorry about that, Joe.
========================
Yeah, I know the former Speaker of the House in MO. I told him he needs to get his buddies in Jeff City to self designate MO a 2-A and mask sanctuary state. It worked for the prog-tards.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:45 PM (7Fj9P)

We are not compliant and pliable here in Mo. Notice has already been given in my neck of the woods that mandates are DOA, by all the powers that be that matter. We will be one of those " pockets of resistance" that will be hard to " pacify". My guess is we will be ignored in favor of other oppresion targets of Joe Dirt.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:49 PM (bCLt0)

287 I can think of three wasted opportunities like this in my own young learning life -- foreign language, piano, and science. The regret and anger over this stays with me to this day.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:35 PM (W04rT)

It's not too late. Try Duolingo for languages, and Khan Academy (or MIT Courseware) for science. Piano, I've got nuthin'.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 12:45 PM (jhFDc)

I was led to believe, eons ago, that I have an aptitude for picking up foreign languages, but I don't wanna, so I never did.

Occasionally I get it in my head (at my "advanced" age) that I want to learn the guitar. And then I watch some Rick Beato videos, where he's talking about "the greatest alternate chord songs of all time," or similar subjects, and he starts explaining it... my brain goes soft, and I think there's absolutely no way I can learn this thing well enough to actually want to hear myself doing it.

It becomes the "foreign language" my brain seems to be capable of learning, but doesn't want to.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:49 PM (hku12)

288 Thank you, Hordesters, for sharing your perspectives on HCQ use and availability. I'm interested in effective treatments that are superior alternatives to what the liars are pushing, like vaccines. I heard one doctor say we could end the epidemic in a matter of months if enough people took one Ivermectin pill per month for three months.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie

Not sure about the doaage, but I am sure whoever makes Iveemectic hasn't handed out enough stock options to politicians, FDA and CDC officials

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:50 PM (aCezw)

289 >>> Another related fact... Albert's brother Bob Einstein also became a famous comedian, under the name "Super Dave" Osborne.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 12, 2020 12:48 PM (H3MF

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*in best Jonny Carson voice*. Iiiiiii did not know that.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 12:50 PM (HSzKG)

290 Bad-assery from Atilla's Gym:
https://tinyurl.com/y6szafnk

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:50 PM (7Fj9P)

291 Piano, I've got nuthin'.

Dustbuster app

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:51 PM (aCezw)

292 Masks work best after 3-4 weeks when the fuzzy stuff on the inside starts grabbing the virions.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at December 12, 2020 12:51 PM (XC4WO)

293 289 >>> Another related fact... Albert's brother Bob Einstein also became a famous comedian, under the name "Super Dave" Osborne.
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at December 12, 2020 12:48 PM (H3MF

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*in best Jonny Carson voice*. Iiiiiii did not know that.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 12:50 PM (HSzKG)

And now you know...

The rest of the story!

Posted by: Paul Harvey...good day! at December 12, 2020 12:52 PM (BgMrQ)

294 Here is the link: recallgavin2020.com. I'm going to sign the recall petition today.

They had a booth outside grace community church a couple of months ago for a few weeks, must have signed up every one of thousands of church goers, so moved on to greener pastures.

Posted by: Rage Stroked but getting the banned back together at December 12, 2020 12:52 PM (fDwTJ)

295 Thank you, Hordesters, for sharing your perspectives on HCQ use and availability. I'm interested in effective treatments that are superior alternatives to what the liars are pushing, like vaccines. I heard one doctor say we could end the epidemic in a matter of months if enough people took one Ivermectin pill per month for three months.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:46 PM (ofYez)

Which is why Dr. Kory gets all red in the face about it. He's wanting to save lives, and the politicians are accusing HIM of politicizing this stuff.

Kafkaesque is the only way I can describe it.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:52 PM (hku12)

296 Recalls have no standing.
- some judge in CA

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (22mNy)

297 Who was the announcer in super Dave? That guy was funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (+fTAB)

298
While I generally avoid the scrum here, I do occasionally want to know what everyone else is saying.

So even on the heavily "political" threads here, I've taken to skimming past all the usual talk, pick out the key words in the comments (or avoid certain commenters altogether), and if it contains a subject I'm interested in, I'll read it. If it doesn't, I won't.

So in that sense, AoSHQ is already the alternate, "politics-free" site for me. When I want it to be.
Posted by: BurtTC

=========

I tried that, but then things hit my eyeball like a squirt of rubbing alcohol. Not to be a whiner, just sayin'. I'll be back if things get sporty. I'm up for sport, but not for watching the swamp slowly, gently ingest the country.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (W04rT)

299 Hubby just had it; he's fine. The dr. told him to not come in for negative test but just to assume he's fine 10 days after symptoms started unless he still felt bad. Dr said the virus can linger in small amounts for months leading to what is a misleading 'positive' result. I assume this is the same w/any flu.
The dr. was exasperated with people who don't have symptoms getting tested.
BTW, hubby felt fine after about 5 days.
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 12:34 PM (Ed8Zd)

Baseball buddy had it. He's back, and said he's had worse cases of the flu. And he's 72. Anecdata, but still ...

Here's the tell in my book: if the Chinese crud were REALLY that lethal, there wouldn't be all these bizarre and irrational carve-outs on restrictions. Say it were like Ebola: would there be curfews, some retail businesses open, others not, and Democrat politicians whooping it up in public gatherings, and no restrictions on ~~worthless ghetto scum rioting and looting~~ concerned inner city Americans peacefully protesting? No, of course not.

Inference: the Red politicians KNOW it's not that big a deal. It's just a pretext for seizing more power over others.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (jhFDc)

300 Thank you, Hordesters, for sharing your perspectives on HCQ use and availability. I'm interested in effective treatments that are superior alternatives to what the liars are pushing, like vaccines. I heard one doctor say we could end the epidemic in a matter of months if enough people took one Ivermectin pill per month for three months.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie

Not sure about the doaage, but I am sure whoever makes Iveemectic hasn't handed out enough stock options to politicians, FDA and CDC officials
Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:50 PM (aCezw)

Prolly a good idea to look into where the manufacturing plants are too. Something tells me ivermectin isn't being churned out by China.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

301 Recalls have no standing.
- some judge in CA
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (22mNy)

Judges, however, might find that they have standing. On a gallows.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (jhFDc)

302 Blond Morticia, I'm always glad to see you join the comments.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (ofYez)

303 HCQ has some studies showing positive effect used early, but has been 'covered' by the news media like election cheating.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XC4WO)

304 Bob Einstein was funny in Curb too.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:55 PM (22mNy)

305 300

Prolly a good idea to look into where the manufacturing plants are too. Something tells me ivermectin isn't being churned out by China.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

ALWAYS good to read the fine print, Burt!

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (bCLt0)

306 While I generally avoid the scrum here, I do occasionally want to know what everyone else is saying.

So even on the heavily "political" threads here, I've taken to skimming past all the usual talk, pick out the key words in the comments (or avoid certain commenters altogether), and if it contains a subject I'm interested in, I'll read it. If it doesn't, I won't.

So in that sense, AoSHQ is already the alternate, "politics-free" site for me. When I want it to be.
Posted by: BurtTC

=========

I tried that, but then things hit my eyeball like a squirt of rubbing alcohol. Not to be a whiner, just sayin'. I'll be back if things get sporty. I'm up for sport, but not for watching the swamp slowly, gently ingest the country.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (W04rT)

I understand what you're saying. You know better than anyone else what works for you.

I've been TRYING to inject as much levity into some of these daily threads as I can, and sometimes I fail, and get sucked into the scrum. That's when I know it's time for me to take a step away from it all.

I don't want to be another scold on this site. There's enough of them already.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (hku12)

307 Who here remembers popcorn stringing?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (+fTAB)

308 I think 200,000,000 dead Chinese would have been a bigger story. That's a lot of tire-pyre-fires.

There is a giant funk in the troposphere, though.

Posted by: klaftern at December 12, 2020 12:57 PM (RuIsu)

309 If it hasn't happened already you're probably going to see an influx of new, unfamiliar nics here at this Smart MilBlog(tm) over the next couple of days and weeks. They are likely to sound a lot like many folks here but will be, well, let's just say aggressive in their suggestions that Something Needs To Be Done About All This.

I'm sure all y'all know what I mean.

The Boss and COBs are no doubt aware of this and prepared, but it's important to get reacquainted with some basic concepts

OpSec
ComSec
InfoSec
PerSec

Oh, and if a COB or a regular is accusing you of #FedPosting? You may want to take a couple of deep breaths, switch to decaf, and maybe even go for a nice, long, relaxing walk before posting again.

Or you can file this under "Advice Nobody Asked For" and enjoy your future discussions with the regime's security forces. Your call.

Posted by: Doctor.Boom at December 12, 2020 12:57 PM (4Yddh)

310 307
Who here remembers popcorn stringing?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (+fTAB)
Funny, I was just thinking of this a few hours ago...you string them with cranberries

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 12:57 PM (DJFLF)

311 Blond Morticia, I'm always glad to see you join the comments.
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Second-ed

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:58 PM (7Fj9P)

312 307 Who here remembers popcorn stringing?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (+fTAB

I do! But the strands can be a little fragile since the popcorn likes to break off.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:58 PM (ofYez)

313 HCQ has some studies showing positive effect used early, but has been 'covered' by the news media like election cheating.
Posted by: Hall Dall MD at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (XC4WO)

Yup. Purposely misleading stuff, like the fish cleaner nonsense... or the fact it's not going to make a lick of difference for that person who is already dying.

I swear, there's a formula to the misinformation/disinformation game, and it's fairly easy to spot, once you know what to look for.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:59 PM (hku12)

314 Seems insane now

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 12:59 PM (+fTAB)

315 Posted by: Doctor.Boom at December 12, 2020 12:57 PM (4Yddh)

Good point, there.

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 12:59 PM (ofYez)

316 The dr. was exasperated with people who don't have symptoms getting tested.

My recent trip overseas required 4 nasal plumbing in 3 weeks. All negative, no symptoms

In the rural clinics, I'm sure if I had slipped them a Benjamin I could have gotten the magic paper AND done some good.

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 12:59 PM (aCezw)

317 Who here remembers popcorn stringing?
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I always rammed the needle into my finger. It makes the hair on the back of my neck stand up just thinking about it. It looks nice, esp. w/cranberries, too.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:59 PM (7Fj9P)

318 306

I've been TRYING to inject as much levity into some of these daily threads as I can, and sometimes I fail, and get sucked into the scrum. That's when I know it's time for me to take a step away from it all.

I don't want to be another scold on this site. There's enough of them already.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (hku12)

I get this. When I become self aware enough to see I am being " that guy" I know I'm doing it wrong and it is Break Time!

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:00 PM (bCLt0)

319 Who here remembers popcorn stringing?<<<

And feeding it to the birds after Christmas.

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2020 01:00 PM (l3+k2)

320 Ivermectin studies come from places like India, Egypt, South America and are discounted by our medical-political complex. The arrogance of 'our betters' will control and kill us.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at December 12, 2020 01:01 PM (XC4WO)

321 The filmstrip of Sammy Davis, dancing soft shoe and tap. At five years old? More talent and soul than any man (yes even Louis).

Though I took heart, when Sammy joined the Tribe. And Louis always wore a Star of David. In gratitude for those that bought him his first horn.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 01:02 PM (Ch8UB)

322
One thing I bumped across here last night when I peeked my head out of the covers is that Oracle is leaving Redwood Shores for Austin.

Holy shyte, is that true? (haha, I even used to work there and I'm back in high tech after my purgatory in news media and I didn't know, that's how blissfully ignorant I've been!)

Anyway, when it happens, I'll drive up to Sili Valley (mebbe 2 hours from my nest) once a month just to gaze on that empty campus. It's HUGE. Santa Clara County at a minimum should feel an economic and demographic crater that big. I guess all the folks in India and Pakistan and hell China dreaming of H1-Bs will have to give up California Dreamin' and start reading up on Texas.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 01:02 PM (W04rT)

323 Or you can file this under "Advice Nobody Asked For" and enjoy your future discussions with the regime's security forces. Your call.
Posted by: Doctor.Boom at December 12, 2020 12:57 PM (4Yddh)

Good advice. We've had some discussion on this here very webzine this week about the term, glowies, which I'd never heard before. The concept is quite clear though.

If it looks like there are people here trying to incite you to do things? They might not be "ordinary" citizens.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:02 PM (hku12)

324 Here's the thing: the Reds are going to be able to claim that their draconian measures "stemmed the tide" of the Chinese virus (in terms of deaths) for one simple reason: the first wave of the virus carried off the oldest, sickest, and most vulnerable people, so naturally the death rate will plummet thereafter, regardless of what anyone did/does.

See every influenza season since the year dot.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 01:03 PM (jhFDc)

325 Ivermectin studies come from places like India, Egypt, South America and are discounted by our medical-political complex. The arrogance of 'our betters' will control and kill us.
Posted by: Hall Dall MD

That's funny considering how many Indian doctors the HMOs import

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (aCezw)

326 "CCP attacked our country with a biological weapon. CCP attacked us again to steal election. CCP wants our land to grow food. We shall NEVER let them take it."

idk what he is talking about, but it rings true. China has been buying up resources across the globe, and moving their CCP people in when possible. Africa seems dominated by CCP influence. Aussies currently taking a hit with big tariffs.

Home prices in some areas are probably driven higher by China infiltration. (and most are probably CCP, not "capitalists from Hong Kong" ... which was always largely a portal for China to the West anyway). We should not let any foreigners gain too much foothold in the US, certainly not our enemies.

I keep hearing the next week or two will get crazy ... really big shoes to drop. If Trump declassifies some big intel on China money flowing to half of DC and various governors, or some such cataclysmic info, in detail ... perhaps momentum would shift. Can't happen soon enough.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

327 Prolly a good idea to look into where the manufacturing plants are too.
Something tells me ivermectin isn't being churned out by China.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

It was originally a Merck drug from their Agvet division (agriculture/vet). I think merck sold that off though. No clue where it's made now.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (9Om/r)

328 Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at December 12, 2020 12:50 PM (7Fj9P)

That is great! Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (WkPC9)

329 I don't want to be another scold on this site. There's enough of them already.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:56 PM (hku12)

I get this. When I become self aware enough to see I am being " that guy" I know I'm doing it wrong and it is Break Time!
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:00 PM (bCLt0)

It is NEVER a bad idea to develop that self-awareness, and in this context, figure out how people get under your skin. Because... it's your skin! Not theirs.

It says a helluva lot more about you (me) than it does them.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:05 PM (hku12)

330 301 Recalls have no standing.
- some judge in CA
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (22mNy)

That's the new word now, I guess. You don't have "standing." The Left loves such terms that reduce, marginalize, belittle, dehumanize.

Posted by: Ordinary American at December 12, 2020 01:05 PM (H8QX8)

331 Sinatra 12 days of Christmas is funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 01:05 PM (+fTAB)

332 Well at least there's no other pseudo-scientific "emergency" out there which can be crudely exploited by the totalitarians to further degrade their mostly compliant and pathetic sheep, er, "citizens". Which is a relief.

I mean, imagine if there were some faux panic that would empower the grifting overlords to control almost all human activity, via regulation and prices.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 01:05 PM (OTzUX)

333 >>> We are not compliant and pliable here in Mo. Notice has already been given in my neck of the woods that mandates are DOA, by all the powers that be that matter. We will be one of those " pockets of resistance" that will be hard to " pacify". My guess is we will be ignored in favor of other oppresion targets of Joe Dirt.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 12:49 PM (bCLt0)

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Except in Columbia, where 2 weeks ago the manager of Hampton Inn and suites refused to let me check in to my reserved room unless I wore a mask. And threatened to call the sheriff and have me arrested for trespassing if I refused. I complied because my extended family was staying there as well. I did call the sheriff's to confirm if the manager was right. They confirmed and said they have made many arrest since the county wide mandate went into effect.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:06 PM (HSzKG)

334 Scroll down CodeMonkey's page to see all the governors who "hosted" Chinese diplomats. Unbelievable.

https://twitter.com/CodeMonkeyZ

Posted by: IrishEi at December 12, 2020 01:07 PM (sGotD)

335 The quality of trollism has certainly declined.

Posted by: Flyover, there are four lights at December 12, 2020 01:07 PM (Rbu5d)

336 I keep hearing the next week or two will get crazy
... really big shoes to drop. If Trump declassifies some big intel on
China money flowing to half of DC and various governors, or some such
cataclysmic info, in detail ... perhaps momentum would shift. Can't
happen soon enough.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (Cus5s)
astrologically speaking, the baddies have the upper hand until Dec 21, then the momentum shifts.
However at this moment in time, momentum on our side is definitely building

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 01:07 PM (DJFLF)

337 Here's the tell in my book: if the Chinese crud were REALLY that lethal, there wouldn't be all these bizarre and irrational carve-outs on restrictions. Say it were like Ebola: would there be curfews, some retail businesses open, others not, and Democrat politicians whooping it up in public gatherings, and no restrictions on worthless ghetto scum rioting and looting concerned inner city Americans peacefully protesting? No, of course not.

Inference: the Red politicians KNOW it's not that big a deal. It's just a pretext for seizing more power over others.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

IOW, I'll act like it's serious when the powers that be act like it's serious.

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2020 01:08 PM (rPjB9)

338 One thing I bumped across here last night when I peeked my head out of the covers is that Oracle is leaving Redwood Shores for Austin.
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Yep.

The only problem is that Austin is apparently already heavily Red-infested, and about to become more so.

I feel as though I'm living in Groundhog Day. This is EXACTLY what happened in California 50 years ago. ABSOLUTELY THE SAME. The rot starts as a small tumor (Berkeley/SF in CA, Tucson in AZ, Austin now in TX) and then metastasizes elsewhere.

If 50 years ago you'd told me Orange County would be seriously considering electing Muslim leftists in 2020, I'd have thought you were crazy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 01:08 PM (jhFDc)

339 IOW, I'll act like it's serious when the powers that be act like it's serious.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2020 01:08 PM (rPjB9)

Yes, thank you, that is the shorter version. I just needed to rant.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (jhFDc)

340 Christmas time is the only time I hear fat ass Burl Ives singing.

Ironic for the old lefty.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (R/m4+)

341 it recquires a total package, hcq with zpak and zinc in combo,

Posted by: bolivar de gris at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (hMlTh)

342 333

Except in Columbia, where 2 weeks ago the manager of Hampton Inn and suites refused to let me check in to my reserved room unless I wore a mask. And threatened to call the sheriff and have me arrested for trespassing if I refused. I complied because my extended family was staying there as well. I did call the sheriff's to confirm if the manager was right. They confirmed and said they have made many arrest since the county wide mandate went into effect.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:06 PM (HSzKG)

Yeeeah. Columbia, ( Berkeley East) is a " pocket" of the other sort. University town.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (bCLt0)

343
Blond Morticia, I'm always glad to see you join the comments.
==================
Second-ed
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin

========

Thanks, guys! It's hard to get away from the horde. I feel like if things get sporty I'm going to need you.

Oh, BurtTC, by "get sporty" I mean in the real world -- Civil War 2.0. I'll be all over that, but I don't want to read a word about prosecutions being dropped, records being shredded, Sec Def Clinton making climate change the number one national defense threat, etc. No hand-wringing. Just marching and acts of civil disobedience. That's all I'm up for now. Point me at the march and I'll go.

And it terrifies me, but I do have elderly relatives. If any of them get hospitalized with life-threatening conditions and some bureaucrat tells me they'll have to die alone because of COVID, I may wind up in the news and then imprisoned.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (W04rT)

344 I rural Virginia this AM, I noticed everyone wearing masks except the two guys open carrying. Hmmmm

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 01:10 PM (aCezw)

345 Locking down healthy people is unconstitutional. Ignore the fascist orders.

Posted by: Valiant at December 12, 2020 01:10 PM (3MiF8)

346 Except in Columbia, where 2 weeks ago the manager of Hampton Inn and suites refused to let me check in to my reserved room unless I wore a mask. And threatened to call the sheriff and have me arrested for trespassing if I refused. I complied because my extended family was staying there as well. I did call the sheriff's to confirm if the manager was right. They confirmed and said they have made many arrest since the county wide mandate went into effect.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:06 PM (HSzKG)

Yeeeah. Columbia, ( Berkeley East) is a " pocket" of the other sort. University town.
Posted by: tubal

Chemjeff has a second job

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 01:11 PM (aCezw)

347 The scamdemic is too convenient for the crooks to be simple accident + opportunism.

Posted by: davidt at December 12, 2020 01:12 PM (l3+k2)

348 Yeeeah. Columbia, ( Berkeley East) is a " pocket" of the other sort. University town.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (bCLt0)

University towns are always the primary tumor. Look at all cities I cited above in #338. EVERY ONE is a university town.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 01:12 PM (jhFDc)

349 Columbia Mo. fancies itself a little City- State. I stay away, and lose zip by doing so.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:12 PM (bCLt0)

350 Posted by: t-bird at December 12, 2020 11:37 AM (2nFxy)
Republican governors too!

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 01:13 PM (DJFLF)

351 it recquires a total package, hcq with zpak and zinc in combo,
Posted by: bolivar de gris

Zpack is only if you have a bacterial respiratory infection, since telling the two apart would require testing - its a sensible precaution.

After labor day, zinc and d3 should be part of your daily load

Posted by: Jean at December 12, 2020 01:13 PM (aCezw)

352 Sammy Davis Jr. was a monumental talent.
My favorite recording is called the "Wham of Sam".
It is a smaller group with arrangements by Marty Paich, who coincidentally is the father of [ your guess here ].

Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 01:13 PM (w7KSn)

353 It's not just the exceptions and the carve outs for favored groups, it's that the virus just is t that deadly. If it were, there would be no need for govt mandates. People would do it on their own. Fauxi et al are treating this like smallpox. It's not.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (kTF2Z)

354 Yes, thank you, that is the shorter version. I just needed to rant.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Totally understand. I've ranted about the lack of ppe disposal receptacles and that no one is cleaning shopping carts anymore.

No one sees this as "serious".

Posted by: rickb223 at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (rPjB9)

355 I've known 3 suicides and 1 COVID death throughout this shit show. And the COVID death was an 89 year old Alzheimer's patient.

Posted by: Betty at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (/QabR)

356 Somebody in a post above mentioned Sammy Davis Junior. found this comment on "The Virtual Jewish Library"

In 1954 he almost died in a car accident where he lost his left eye. While in the hospital, his friend Eddie Cantor enlightened him on the similarities between the Jewish and black cultures. Davis converted to Judaism after reading Paul Johnson's A History of the Jews in the hospital. One paragraph about the ultimate endurance of the Jewish people intrigued him in particular: The Jews would not die. Three centuries of prophetic teaching had given them an unwavering spirit of resignation and had created in them a will to live which no disaster could crush.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (WkPC9)

357 If the China Flu scam was as deadly as say the Mask of the Red Death, our "betters" would be no where to be seen, let alone having press conferences with their nipple rings aglow.

This is how you know they are full of crap.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (R/m4+)

358 My wife is a weirdo. My kid went to a bday party
last week. About 10 kids there plus parents. No objections, But she will
not allow the same kid to have a sleepover with two friends cuz da
Covid.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:29 PM (22mNy)

That is stupid squared.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (946rW)

359 Yeeeah. Columbia, ( Berkeley East) is a " pocket" of the other sort.

Without the academic chops of the real Berkeley.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (jhFDc)

360 >>>Yeeeah. Columbia, ( Berkeley East) is a " pocket" of the other sort. University town.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:09 PM (bCLt0)

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I was surprised, as we visited friends in the Ozarks with no mask to be seen. I have a nephew that plays bb for miz (insert humble brag here ;-) ), so I'll be down again. But I think I'll stay in a different county next time.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:15 PM (HSzKG)

361 Autocucumber changed Fauci to Fauxi. Seemed appropriate so I left it.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:15 PM (kTF2Z)

362 Hey Emmie!
I'm starting to work on my gingerbread cookies so I'm in and out plus I'm watching Longmire...

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 01:17 PM (UUBmN)

363
Yep.

The only problem is that Austin is apparently already heavily Red-infested, and about to become more so.

I feel as though I'm living in Groundhog Day. This is EXACTLY what happened in California 50 years ago. ABSOLUTELY THE SAME. The rot starts as a small tumor (Berkeley/SF in CA, Tucson in AZ, Austin now in TX) and then metastasizes elsewhere.

If 50 years ago you'd told me Orange County would be seriously considering electing Muslim leftists in 2020, I'd have thought you were crazy.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

==========

Oh yeah, that too. Texas goes blue in 2024, no doubt. I'm watching California with interest in the meantime. I'm sure movie production will be mostly out of here before long. It's easy to speculate on the state's economic future, at least certain sectors. How will the political pendulum swing? How can Californians tolerate the inevitable next hike in gas taxes while more illegals and homeless take over the landscape, the schools, etc?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 01:17 PM (W04rT)

364 Meetup in Southern Westchester NY

If there are any Morons in the Mamaroneck area, come check out a conservative "cell" being started in our area.

meetup dot com /larchmont-conservatives-meetup-group/

Posted by: Zek at December 12, 2020 01:18 PM (XtiOl)

365 This was nice here, on a Saturday morning I'd like to come back sometime. Not as strident as weekday mornings, overall.

Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:18 PM (bCLt0)

366 I hope the GOP will be distributing Sen. Sasse's statement to GA voters, it could be inspirational. He contemptuously dismissed claims of election fraud as "Kenya-birther" type "nonsense" and lauded the SCOTUS decision on the TX suit.

But remember - "we" will be so well positioned for the mid-terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 01:19 PM (OTzUX)

367 Sammy Davis Jr did a nice cover of Baby Its Cold Outside. Can remember who the broad was that sang with him.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 12, 2020 01:19 PM (Vxu+H)

368 >>> 9 Yeeeah. Columbia, ( Berkeley East) is a " pocket" of the other sort.

Without the academic chops of the real Berkeley.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara - RIP American Republic, 1789-2020 at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (jhFDc)

=====

Berkeley wannabes of the Midwest:

North: Madison UW
Central: Iowa City U of I
S. Central: Columbia Mizzou

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:20 PM (HSzKG)

369 House Democrat, Bill Pascrell accuses GOP lawmakers of treason and says the Republicans that backed the Texas lawsuit should be barred from the House.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2020 01:20 PM (NpAcC)

370 Ben Sasse can kiss my ass.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:20 PM (kTF2Z)

371 meetup dot com /larchmont-conservatives-meetup-group/
Posted by: Zek

The one promoting violins is the fed ...

Posted by: Adriane the Soma Critic ... at December 12, 2020 01:20 PM (LPnfS)

372 As long as UT is in Austin, it is a lost city.

Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 01:20 PM (UUBmN)

373 One Summary: "The Whole Plandemic was Avoidable, If liar Fauci had not wanted to push his own expensive cure, and coordinate with his DNC friends to damage Trump (by murdering 100K citizens, shutting down the economy, blaming Trump)"

HCQ helped, it was made illegal or blocked ... Ivermectin is a cure, but too cheap ... no profit for drug companies. This was/is an act of war ... (by DeepState) ... as is the whole Coup.

Exactly how DeepState and CCP are playing this "game", idk. American Liberty seems to be the biggest enemy of both ... so I guess they plan to destroy US first, then DeepState will get draconian with CCP maybe, (and in Europe, maybe confrontation with Islam starts once they feel their already totalitarian control is stablized)

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 01:21 PM (Cus5s)

374 If you take vitamin supplements, watch how much of the B vites you're getting. No one should need to supplement B vites unless for a specific condition because B vites are easy to get in food. Too much of the B vites, particularly 12 and I think, IIRC, 6 can be unhealthy, especially for men.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 01:23 PM (KAi1n)

375
I hope the GOP will be distributing Sen. Sasse's statement to GA voters,
it could be inspirational. He contemptuously dismissed claims of
election fraud as "Kenya-birther" type "nonsense" and lauded the SCOTUS
decision on the TX suit.

But remember - "we" will be so well positioned for the mid-terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 01:19 PM (OTzUX)

It is good when the enemy clarifies who they are.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 01:23 PM (946rW)

376 Greetings, fellow domestic terrorists and white supremacists. What are we up to today?

Posted by: Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)

377 ...
I keep hearing the next week or two will get crazy ... really big shoes to drop. If Trump declassifies some big intel on China money flowing to half of DC and various governors, or some such cataclysmic info, in detail ... perhaps momentum would shift. Can't happen soon enough.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (Cus5s)

===================

I'm looking for stuff like that too. Something to motivate the Republicans to actually do their jobs. It seems obvious that military intelligence ("the Kraken") is handling this, and Sidney Powell said that she recently received intercepted communications between the 4 Venezuelans at Dominion who planned TheSteal that show exactly what they were up to. So that was probably from them.

I suspect the Swalwell thing is part of this too. It's not just some coincidence that we're talking about a compromised Congressman at the same time the Chinese sponsored an attack on our election. My thinking is that they're telling the co-conspirators in America that time is up, and they need to start talking and make a deal, or they could end up hanging from a rope in GITMO.

At the same time, Ric Grennell was on Hannity (last night?) and said that Swalwell is just "the tip of the ice berg". So that fits with what I'm thinking.

They MIGHT also be signaling that CIA has been re-taken by the good guys (Haspel out of the picture). At any rate, I think this is about the election, and the traitors among us are wetting their pants right now.

THE THING TO REMEMBER IN ALL THIS IS THAT REPUBLICANS HOLD ALL THE POWER. The Republican state legislatures can do it (only some of them!). Republican SCOTUS nominees can do it. Even Republican CONGRESSMAN can do it. And it's ANY of the above, NOT all of them.

It's absurd that we have to be on the edge of our seats, or just be despondent, because we can't rely on our own guys to stick up for their OWN side, instead of letting the OTHER side steal from them!!

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at December 12, 2020 01:23 PM (hOOi9)

378 For some thi is pure fascist power hungry dictates. But I think for others, they love the attention. How often does a mayor or even a governor get media attention? Maybe the govs of NY or TX. But how often do you hear about the gov of OH or NC in the national news? Or the mayor of say Columbus, OH? Never. But now they are in the news and love that shit. So they all try and outdo each other, competing for that national or at lest regional news coverage.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 01:24 PM (22mNy)

379 House Democrat, Bill Pascrell accuses GOP lawmakers
of treason and says the Republicans that backed the Texas lawsuit
should be barred from the House.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2020 01:20 PM (NpAcC)

Do it asshole. All you are doing is accelerating the conclusion of this debacle.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 01:24 PM (946rW)

380 I've known 3 suicides and 1 COVID death throughout this shit show. And the COVID death was an 89 year old Alzheimer's patient.
Posted by: Betty at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (/QabR)

I know 2 people who died directly because they were so afraid of the Covid they didn't get necessary medical treatment.

Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

381 @371
"meetup dot com /larchmont-conservatives-meetup-group/
Posted by: Zek

The one promoting violins is the fed ..."

Now you tell me.

Posted by: Zombie Randy Weaver at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (XtiOl)

382 watching the election fraud challenge to the wisconsin supreme court on oann. these wymmyn justices are nothing less than flea market harpies.

Posted by: BluesFish at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (WQZ1O)

383 376 Greetings, fellow domestic terrorists and white supremacists. What are we up to today?
Posted by: Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)

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Yes, any schemes or intrigues anyone wants to share? Always looking for a good intrigue.

Posted by: Also Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (CAJOC)

384 >>>At the same time, Ric Grennell was on Hannity (last night?) and said that Swalwell is just "the tip of the ice berg". So that fits with what I'm thinking.

======

Ya know, for a guy I never heard of before this year (Ric), he seems to be the only one that when he says something is going to happen, I believe him.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:26 PM (HSzKG)

385 Every state has its own Berkeley wanna be college town.

Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 01:26 PM (22mNy)

386 Also, don't go poppin' zinc likes it's popcorn. Zinc is a mineral that can also be toxic in high amounts. 25 mg supplement is quite sufficient.

Vitamin C - if you're not getting plenty in your diet, WTF are you eating? Even blueberries have some vitamin C (about 14% RDA IIRC).

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 01:27 PM (KAi1n)

387 Prolly a good idea to look into where the manufacturing plants are too.
Something tells me ivermectin isn't being churned out by China.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 12:54 PM (hku12)

It was originally a Merck drug from their Agvet division (agriculture/vet). I think merck sold that off though. No clue where it's made now.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 12, 2020 01:04 PM (9Om/r)

I know nothing about this stuff, but a quick search yielded a couple key points. First, in some countries it's only approved for veterinary use. Second, it appears under a gazillion brand names, meaning nobody holds the exclusive patent anymore... and in the long long list of brand names, I saw countries listed for each. I don't think I saw China on the list anywhere. Lots of South American and Asian countries. Not China.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)

388 >>> I've known 3 suicides and 1 COVID death throughout this shit show. And the COVID death was an 89 year old Alzheimer's patient.
Posted by: Betty at December 12, 2020 01:14 PM (/QabR

=====

And one of our own (Ronin's) here.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:28 PM (HSzKG)

389 As a corollary to my above rant, it's ironic in this election situation that:

DEMOCRATS ARE VIRTUALLY POWERLESS IN THIS. They couldn't reverse the voter fraud if they wanted to, except maybe in NV.

They're just sitting around, knowing that they cheated like crazy, seeing if the Republicans will get their ridiculous heads out of their own butts. And LAUGHING AT US.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at December 12, 2020 01:29 PM (hOOi9)

390 I hope the GOP will be distributing Sen. Sasse's
statement to GA voters, it could be inspirational. He contemptuously
dismissed claims of election fraud as "Kenya-birther" type "nonsense"
and lauded the SCOTUS decision on the TX suit.

But remember - "we" will be so well positioned for the mid-terms!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 01:19 PM (OTzUX)

Another Benedict Arnold. The Republican Party is rotten with them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 01:29 PM (lqWFb)

391 Berkeley wannabes of the Midwest:

North: Madison UW

Central: Iowa City U of I

S. Central: Columbia Mizzou

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs

You can't pretend to have nice weather. Either you do or you don't.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 01:30 PM (KAi1n)

392 >>> watching the election fraud challenge to the wisconsin supreme court on oann. these wymmyn justices are nothing less than flea market harpies.
Posted by: BluesFish at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (WQZ1O)

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Maybe Trump accounted for all of the cheating. What he couldn't account for, or so it seems to me, is the SC of the states the cheating occurred in.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:31 PM (HSzKG)

393 DEMOCRATS ARE VIRTUALLY POWERLESS IN THIS. They couldn't reverse the voter fraud if they wanted to, except maybe in NV.

They're just sitting around, knowing that they cheated like crazy,
seeing if the Republicans will get their ridiculous heads out of their
own butts. And LAUGHING AT US.

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at December 12, 2020 01:29 PM (hOOi9)

They know the Republicans are cowards or on the take and will do nothing. That's why they cheated so blatantly. That and they know the MFM will lie for them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 01:31 PM (lqWFb)

394 Domestic terrorist?
Quit listening to the cat, it's just a vacuum.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2020 01:31 PM (FhXTo)

395 Too much of the B vites, particularly 12 and I think, IIRC, 6 can be unhealthy, especially for men.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 01:23
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Few years back told me start taking some B vites after blood results came back. I searched reasons for low B and saw for many it was too much alcohol. Common in alchies. Didn't change my alcohol consumption though.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 12, 2020 01:31 PM (TArQP)

396 If kids lose a year from Plandemic, they may lose another year getting readjusted to study habits/discipline ... if that is even a thing anymore. Or maybe the best students learn more at home, unencumbered from oppressive school environments, free of fake global warming pseudo science.

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 01:32 PM (Cus5s)

397 >>> Posted by: Swingin' for the downs

You can't pretend to have nice weather. Either you do or you don't.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 01:30 PM (KAi1n)

====

True. Doesn't mean we can't pretend to be just as stupid.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:33 PM (HSzKG)

398
A senator from Nebraska named Sasse,
Was no different than a snake in the grass.
With a spine made of jelly,
He'd crawl on his belly.
And we all said Kiss my ass!

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:33 PM (kTF2Z)

399 I'm not a sheepdog because I'm not going to lift a
paw or a whisker to keep those creatures away from the cliffside or the
wolves or the bad weather. Not sure what animal I am. Maybe a honey
badger.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 12:15 PM (W04rT)

---
honorably retired disabled vet here...

and wondering why i bothered, looking back at all the things i missed being able to do, and what is happening now.

on the upside, w/o the Army, i'd have never met Resident 3vil, and gawd knows where i'd be, or if i even would have lived this long.

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 12, 2020 01:33 PM (nG8Bv)

400 Maybe Trump accounted for all of the cheating. What
he couldn't account for, or so it seems to me, is the SC of the states
the cheating occurred in.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 01:31 PM (HSzKG)

Or how many crooked Republican state politicians will do nothing about the steal or help cover it up.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 01:33 PM (lqWFb)

401 If I wasn't being told about the pandemic, I'd have no idea one existed.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at December 12, 2020 01:34 PM (XC4WO)

402 Gardening Thread is up.

Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2020 01:34 PM (1Yy3c)

403 362 Hey Emmie!
I'm starting to work on my gingerbread cookies so I'm in and out plus I'm watching Longmire...
Posted by: lin-duh at December 12, 2020 01:17 PM (UUBmN)

Yum!

Posted by: President-elect Emmie at December 12, 2020 01:35 PM (ofYez)

404 I know 2 people who died directly because they were so afraid of the Covid they didn't get necessary medical treatment.
Posted by: Pres. Elect LASue at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (Ed8Zd)

Well, we know at least one moron lost his young daughter to this insanity. I have little doubt, now approaching a year that the mental toll is like nothing this country, much less planet has gone through. At least with previous wars we've been fighting a mostly uniformed enemy with mostly defined borders.

Now the enemy is internal, along with an unseen danger. The fear is palpable every time I go out. Back in the day, the scared people built fallout shelters - at least that made sense. Now? People wearing surgical gloves, 2 masks and a faceshield. Driving in a car by themselves, or walking on an empty trail in an open space district.

We're also fighting people who cannot think for themselves, and need to be told what to do. They in turn impart their new "knowledge" on us, usually in the form of harassment and meltdowns. The shit I see just in a store when I go out for as short a time as possible is a combination of Idiocracy and Twilight Zone. And it's not stopping any time soon.

We're going to see an entire generation of neurotic, depressed kids emerging on the other side of this thing. I can't even imagine what this would be like for a young teen who had a taste of sanity, only to be plunged into this shitshow. There must be a reckoning.

Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 12, 2020 01:36 PM (L8ADy)

405 Columbia Mo. fancies itself a little City- State. I stay away, and lose zip by doing so.
Posted by: tubal at December 12, 2020 01:12 PM (bCLt0)

A couple years ago, we were in the vicinity, and stopped for lunch at a McDonalds. Unbeknownst to me beforehand, there were football players at this very same McDonalds. I think they were high screwel, but hell, they MIGHT have been college. I really don't know.

They were holding some sort of event, and there were players as well as cheerleaders walking among the customers, giving away posters of themselves, I guess. Which is why I think they might have been college and not high screwel. Who can afford that?

Anyhoo, a football player approached me and my son, and tried to give him a poster. I said he didn't want it. He told me it was free, and it was just to.... whatever, before he went into his spiel, I more forcefully said "he doesn't want it."

Poor kid. He walked away, all disheartened. I think it might have been the first time anyone gave him a clue that maybe he's not all that special after all.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)

406 Ivermectin is easily obtainable from a vet for your dog.
Dosage could easily be obtained by weight. The paste for a horse not so much.

It can be ordered from Australia without a prescription.
Name brands but have no idea where it's mfg.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 01:38 PM (CZm2G)

407 Greetings, fellow domestic terrorists and white supremacists. What are we up to today?
Posted by: Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 01:23 PM (kTF2Z)

-------------------------

Yes, any schemes or intrigues anyone wants to share? Always looking for a good intrigue.
Posted by: Also Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (CAJOC)

I was thinking about kidnapping the Michigan governor, but then I realized, that would mean I'd have to spend time around the Michigan governor.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)

408
So if any other SoCal moron is interested, Huntington Beach, Pier 12 today, 2:00 - 5:00.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia, now 99% news-free! at December 12, 2020 01:40 PM (W04rT)

409 We're going to see an entire generation of neurotic, depressed kids emerging on the other side of this thing. I can't even imagine what this would be like for a young teen who had a taste of sanity, only to be plunged into this shitshow. There must be a reckoning.
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free

Lady I work with told me yesterday that on Thurs. her granddaughter was called into the office with no explanation. Her parents were called and made to take her home. She is 12.

Reason= she may have been exposed to wuhan. Now no school, no gym, no nothing. This is in a rural area. This shit is sick and needs to stop.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 01:41 PM (QoPXA)

410 Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)

If the cheerleaders were cute I'd have grabbed some of their posters.

Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2020 01:41 PM (1Yy3c)

411 Ruthless People was funny.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at December 12, 2020 01:42 PM (oXJmp)

412 We're going to see an entire generation of neurotic, depressed kids emerging on the other side of this thing.

Don't forget their zeitgeist of amorality, agnosticism and nihilism which perfects their dehumanizing.

Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at December 12, 2020 01:42 PM (C+evo)

413 That government is best which governs least. Unless there's a virus, in which case, feel free to freak the fuck out.

-Stuff Jefferson said, vol 2

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:44 PM (kTF2Z)

414 One of the saints of the board-the kind and compassionate Bluebell shared yesterday that today is the feast day of the Virgin of Guadalupe. The Virgin Mary is the patroness of North and South America for the Virgin of Guadalupe since she appeared to a peasant in Mexico City and the vision which he had of her appeared on his cloak. It is a very interesting story, for those that have an interest in that sort of thing. (I do) So, anyway, Bluebell shared that she was going to ask for the Virgin Mary-the Virgin of Guadalupe to pray for America today:

https://tinyurl.com/yyo4x9d5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:45 PM (WkPC9)

415 Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:36 PM (hku12)

If the cheerleaders were cute I'd have grabbed some of their posters.
Posted by: Robert at December 12, 2020 01:41 PM (1Yy3c)

As I said, I wasn't sure if they were high school or college. So no, I wasn't going to be doing any grabbing.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:46 PM (hku12)

416 I was thinking about kidnapping the Michigan governor, but then I realized, that would mean I'd have to spend time around the Michigan governor.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:39 PM (hku12)

LOL.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:47 PM (WkPC9)

417 My name is Bill. I'm a terrorist. I heard there might be a large terrorist attack. If you tell me what it is, maybe I could help out.

Posted by: Gary Johnston at December 12, 2020 01:48 PM (PBmdd)

418 DC rally RSBN
https://tinyurl.com/yxckjkuj

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2020 01:48 PM (NpAcC)

419 For my fellow Californios, there is a recall petition for Governor hairdo.
Get your name and signature on it. It is a snowball rolling downhill. Soon it will be impossible to ignore.
Posted by: attila the twitchy at December 12, 2020 11:29 AM (w7KSn)

Kind of sad when you realize that Huey Long got himself whacked for crimes that affected a lot fewer people than those of the Nazi lockdown gubernators.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2020 01:48 PM (mzC78)

420 That government is best which governs least. Unless there's a virus, in which case, feel free to freak the fuck out.

-Stuff Jefferson said, vol 2
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:44 PM (kTF2Z)

Indeed. Jefferson was well known to be quite the germophobe.

And is said to have believed the only cure for some types of ailments was to bang one's slaves and/or to design and build architecturally unsound buildings.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:50 PM (hku12)

421 I live in Los Angeles and everyone is out and about.

Posted by: microcosme at December 12, 2020 01:51 PM (uNa1R)

422 over at WZ

Family kicked off plane and banned from flying United bc their 2 yo wouldn't wear a mask.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 01:51 PM (QoPXA)

423
Yes, any schemes or intrigues anyone wants to share? Always looking for a good intrigue.
Posted by: Also Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 01:25 PM (CAJOC)

I considered sending a nasty note to Bill Pascrell, the nutcase Democrat Rep from Patterson, N.J. who thinks that anyone in Congress who believes in the idea of voter fraud and supports Trump ought to be expelled from the Congress because they're traitors. However, since he's not my Representative he wouldn't pay any attention to me, not that he pays any attention to his constituents who don't agree with him anyway.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:53 PM (WkPC9)

424 The Virgin Mary is the patroness of North and South America for the Virgin of Guadalupe since she appeared to a peasant in Mexico City and the vision which he had of her appeared on his cloak. It is a very interesting story, for those that have an interest in that sort of thing. (I do)

Juan Diego snagged a sainthood for that episode, and an entire city with an NFL team is named after him. Not a bad outcome for a Mexican peasant.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2020 01:54 PM (fLVm1)

425 over at WZ

Family kicked off plane and banned from flying United bc their 2 yo wouldn't wear a mask.
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 01:51 PM (QoPXA)

If it is ever possible to travel east again, I'll either have to get on an airplane or drive through Denver.

Honestly, I don't know which I hate more.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 01:54 PM (hku12)

426 Family kicked off plane and banned from flying United bc their 2 yo wouldn't wear a mask.

The Wu is just a vehicle through which the overlords can identify their camp guard prospects.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at December 12, 2020 01:55 PM (W4eKo)

427 Vernon Jones speaking now at the rally.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2020 01:55 PM (NpAcC)

428
Recalls have no standing.
- some judge in CA
Posted by: Asshoes at December 12, 2020 12:53 PM (22mNy)

*seethes*

Posted by: Former Gov Gray Davis at December 12, 2020 01:56 PM (EGyGV)

429 Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2020 01:54 PM (fLVm1)

I'm glad. St Juan Diego sounds like he was a very devout man.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:57 PM (WkPC9)

430 Vernon Jones speaking now at the rally.

He is a very good speaker.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:57 PM (WkPC9)

431 Power should not be consolidated in the federal government unless someone finds a noose in their garage. Then rain down hell fire upon the miscreants, especially if they're fans of carriage racing. Fuckin Hicks.

-Stuff Jefferson said, vol 3

Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 12, 2020 01:57 PM (kTF2Z)

432 Vernon Jones speaking now at the rally.

He is a very good speaker.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:57 PM (WkPC9)
**********
He is Fen,
I get inspired when listening to him.

Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2020 01:59 PM (NpAcC)

433 Cuomo is having his star-studded birthday party! What a joyous occasion.

Send your kids to school? Fuck you, peasants.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 12, 2020 01:59 PM (89T5c)

434
Something of interest---Upstate NY--NY 21I see spontaneous rallies, not a tremendous amount of people in each, but breaking out all over, lasting an hour or so,flags and vehicles in orderly fashion cruising the streets.

Posted by: irongrampa at December 12, 2020 01:59 PM (KATBx)

435 I was just a boy when the Democrats came to my town in their busses. The rioters burned down the strip mall, and it lit up like the eyes of Trump. Burning bottles rained down from the rooftops and cooked everything they touched. I could only hide myself and cry as my Wal-Mart was consumed by the fiery liquid death. As soon as the election had been purloined, the Democrats were gone. It was on that day I put a jihad on them. And if you don't believe it, then you'd better kill me now, because I'll put a jihad on you, too.

Posted by: Gary Johnston at December 12, 2020 02:00 PM (PBmdd)

436 They know the Republicans are cowards or on the take and will do nothing. That's why they cheated so blatantly. That and they know the MFM will lie for them.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 01:31 PM (lqWFb)

I've actually seen very little gloating from Leftists either in real life or in the media and at first I attributed it to fear that the other shoe would drop and the fraud would be found out and the election outcome "reversed."
But just like Trump, they didn't realize how weak and craven most elected Republicans are.

SCOTUS just didn't have the balls to hear the case--which would have meant looking into the evidence that they didn't want to see--and that they didn't want you to see.
I don't think it was really dislike of Trump--except for Roberts and the two lesbians--but rather a fear that if the truth were known, we'd go ape shit.

There is going to be Hell to pay. In what form this will take --and who will feel the brunt of it the most--I have no idea.
But it's coming.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:01 PM (HrMC1)

437 So they are going to distribute 100 million doses of the vaccine in the USA starting Monday. I'm sure others knew but I wasn't aware you need a follow up shot.

Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 12, 2020 02:01 PM (2DOZq)

438 There is going to be Hell to pay. In what form this will take --and who will feel the brunt of it the most--I have no idea.
But it's coming.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:01 PM (HrMC1)

Yes. I don't see that this outrage will ever just be put behind us.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2020 02:02 PM (fLVm1)

439
Honestly, I don't know which I hate more.
Posted by: BurtTC at

Avoid Denver. Even C470 sucks. Go thru WY or South. Can't see myself getting on a plan ever again.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:02 PM (QoPXA)

440
SCOTUS just didn't have the balls to hear the
case--which would have meant looking into the evidence that they didn't
want to see--and that they didn't want you to see.

I don't think it was really dislike of Trump--except for Roberts and
the two lesbians--but rather a fear that if the truth were known, we'd
go ape shit.

There is going to be Hell to pay. In what form this will take --and who will feel the brunt of it the most--I have no idea.

But it's coming.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:01 PM (HrMC1)

I'm watching War Room. Rudy is on and he said just that. The Supreme Court by saying no standing said we don't want to see any evidence. No matter what has been presented we don't care.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:03 PM (OH8YU)

441 I considered sending a nasty note to Bill Pascrell, the nutcase Democrat Rep from Patterson, N.J. who thinks that anyone in Congress who believes in the idea of voter fraud and supports Trump ought to be expelled from the Congress because they're traitors. However, since he's not my Representative he wouldn't pay any attention to me, not that he pays any attention to his constituents who don't agree with him anyway.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:53 PM (WkPC9)

Pascrell is senile. His staff is doing all of that.
I know the family.

He was never this radical.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:04 PM (HrMC1)

442 Just got a gander at recommendations on Amazon, and lo and behold, what's this?

Klaus Schwab's Great Reset?

Seriously, Amazon?

If you don't know who Klaus Schwab is, don't worry. He knows who YOU are. This of this book as the Mein Kampf for the 21st century. He's telling you everything.

I was encouraged by the "reviews" on Amazon, wave after wave of people saying the same thing: This is their plan.

Read the book... or don't. It's possible to go down the rabbit hole without necessarily reading the whole damn book. It's also possible to turn away, because it's too uncomfortable to face this stuff.

But like I said, you may not be interested in Klaus Schwab, but he's definitely interested in you.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:04 PM (hku12)

443 I'm watching War Room. Rudy is on and he said just that. The Supreme Court by saying no standing said we don't want to see any evidence. No matter what has been presented we don't care.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:03 PM (OH8YU)

They are afraid.

Also, Barret and Kav have kids and they live in the swamp. I would imagine they've received threats and figure it's not worth it.

Which is bollocks if you think about it.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)

444 There is going to be Hell to pay.

--------

https://youtu.be/o-9aIAxUytg

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:06 PM (PBmdd)

445 plane

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:07 PM (QoPXA)

446 432 Vernon Jones speaking now at the rally.

He is a very good speaker.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:57 PM (WkPC9)
**********
He is Fen,
I get inspired when listening to him.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 12, 2020 01:59 PM (NpAcC)
---------------

Billy Jeff's lawyer standing up for Trump should give perspective on the tyrants that are trying to take over.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 02:08 PM (CZm2G)

447 They are afraid.

Also, Barret and Kav have kids and they live in the swamp. I would
imagine they've received threats and figure it's not worth it.

Which is bollocks if you think about it.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)

Then we live in a mobocracy. Do what we want or else. Time to get zombie Elliot Ness.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:08 PM (OH8YU)

448 He was never this radical.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:04 PM (HrMC1)

Well, that's a real shame, then, that his staff is doing this.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 02:08 PM (WkPC9)

449 Heard a story this past week a 16 year old kid who dreamed of beijng a football player and worked out daily suddenly stopped and some time after committed suicide from being locked down and out of school so no football.
Kids now will realize they have been played as suckers this who year.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 02:09 PM (Cxk7w)

450 Pfizer makes Ivermectin for horses

Posted by: Ben Had at December 12, 2020 02:10 PM (W1RB+)

451 >>Also, Barret and Kav have kids and they live in the swamp. I would imagine they've received threats and figure it's not worth it.

Then resign, figs.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:10 PM (vBEKM)

452 Billy Jeff's lawyer standing up for Trump should give perspective on the tyrants that are trying to take over.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 02:08
--------------------

Who's Billy Jeff's lawyer?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 12, 2020 02:10 PM (TArQP)

453 Honestly, I don't know which I hate more.
Posted by: BurtTC at

Avoid Denver. Even C470 sucks. Go thru WY or South. Can't see myself getting on a plan ever again.
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:02 PM (QoPXA)

Yeah, I think that's the way to go. I mean, I hate the thought of going I-80 the whole way. That's a horrible drive. So the alternate is US routes just south of I-70, US 50 and/or 40 mostly, and then pick up 70 at some point east of Denver. Somewhere in Kansas. Or not. 70 through Kansas isn't exactly paradise either.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:10 PM (hku12)

454 443 I'm watching War Room. Rudy is on and he said just that. The Supreme Court by saying no standing said we don't want to see any evidence. No matter what has been presented we don't care.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:03 PM (OH8YU)

They are afraid.

Also, Barret and Kav have kids and they live in the swamp. I would imagine they've received threats and figure it's not worth it.

Which is bollocks if you think about it.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)

Yup, Supreme Cowards have signaled they will not intervene, no matter what the evidence is.

Just like Obamacare.

Just like gun laws.

The right to petition for redress has gone the way of all our other rights.

Bill of Rights, ex morte.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 02:10 PM (d9rwJ)

455 Then we live in a mobocracy. Do what we want or else. Time to get zombie Elliot Ness.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:08 PM (OH8YU)

Yeah. Thank heaven for federal agents.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2020 02:11 PM (fLVm1)

456
They are afraid.

Also, Barret and Kav have kids and they live in the swamp. I would
imagine they've received threats and figure it's not worth it.

Which is bollocks if you think about it.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:06 PM (HrMC1)
hmmm I missed the part in the Oath they swore to that said: "Defend against all enemies foreign and domestic unless you're a skaredycat beta bitch, in which case just wipe your weak ass with the US Consitution "
As if they couldn't deploy Fed security for these sackless divas

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:11 PM (DJFLF)

457 plane
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:07 PM (QoPXA)

Plainly, yes.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:12 PM (hku12)

458 Vernon Jones was spectacular. Another righteous soldier. Brought a tear to my eye.

Now that I've signed off. I can finally brag on myself. Something I've never done, in this life.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:12 PM (AccAH)

459 Then resign, figs.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:10 PM (vBEKM)
It's disgusting isn't it?

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:12 PM (DJFLF)

460 Then we live in a mobocracy. Do what we want or else. Time to get zombie Elliot Ness.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:08 PM (OH8YU)

I learned in Beirut in 83, that Terrorism can work.

Nothing in the years since have changed my mind.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 02:12 PM (d9rwJ)

461 There is going to be Hell to pay. In what form this will take --and who will feel the brunt of it the most--I have no idea.
But it's coming.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:01 PM (HrMC1)

Yes. I don't see that this outrage will ever just be put behind us.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2020 02:02 PM (fLVm1)

The next few months are crucial.
If the Democrats pull the switch too soon and install Kamala, it may wake many from their stupor.
And the media is looking more and more clownish by the hour --and when they orgasm over "Madame President" I can see all but the true believers just writing them off.

But I think the feckless and weak Republicans are going to get it in the shorts first--when they lose Georgia.

And in a few months, the extent of the cheating is going to be more clear.

People will be demanding Trump.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:12 PM (HrMC1)

462
Ivan E. Raiklin
@Raiklin

Let's bring this patriot's anger and chanel it into action, participating in, executing it and enforcing #ThePlan there are many like him. #WeThePeople need all hands on deck!
....

@greeneyeshj
OMG!! There is NO FUCKING PLAN!!! AMERICA WAS SOLD OUT BY OUR POLITICIANS YEARS AGO, @realDonaldTrump
awoke us but by then it was to late!! The Blame can be put on ourselves for not paying attention to what they were doing all these years!! I just want to cry

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:13 PM (QUOVv)

463 In 2013, and half of 2014. I was the defacto co-editor, of Drudge!

No pay, no attribution, no accreditation. And I've never met the creep.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:13 PM (AccAH)

464 Yeah. Thank heaven for federal agents.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero43) at December 12, 2020 02:11 PM (fLVm1)

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You're welcome. Err...I mean, that's what I'd say if I was a Fed, which I'm not. At all.

Posted by: Not a Fed at December 12, 2020 02:14 PM (kTF2Z)

465 InCaliWannaBeInNewCali at December 12, 2020 11:41 AM
I have read that Quercetin can interfere with a drug used to prevent organ rejection, and with thyroid meds. Those are the only ones I've heard about.

If there are others, it would be nice to learn about them. I take 500 mg at night, as a substitute for decongestants. Just had bloodwork done. Thyroid is OK.

Regular Quercetin doesn't absorb very well unless taken with Vitamin C, or maybe with food containing fat. It's not something you should take on an empty stomach. There are special forms that are supposed to absorb better.

The protocol put out by Marik has lowered the recommended amount of Quercetin to 250 mg a day, if I recall correctly, for prophylaxis, raising it to twice a day for early treatment. I think the one put out by his group has the same recommendations for Quercetin.

Posted by: KT at December 12, 2020 02:14 PM (BVQ+1)

466 I'm sure others knew but I wasn't aware you need a follow up shot.

That's the tracking nanobots. They're mostly harmless.

Posted by: The Fauci-Gates Consortium at December 12, 2020 02:14 PM (W4eKo)

467 >>It's disgusting isn't it?

It is.

I could honestly care less if John Roberts and his entire family died in a fire at this point. Good riddance to him and his genetics as far as I am concerned.

And I feel this way about 99.8% of the denizens of DC.

If I rolled through that town, I'd leave a hell of a lot less alive than the % that Covid would take.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:15 PM (vBEKM)

468

Speaking of mobocracy I saw a headline that the Michigan electors want protection because of "right wing threats". Whether that's the MFM BSing or not I don't know. But if the left wants to live by threatening people that can swing both ways. Yes I know the cops and FBI will come after us and not the left, but if you take any hope of the rule of law away from people what do you leave them with?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:15 PM (OH8YU)

469 If it comes down to 70 vs 80 eastbound, take 80.

About 1/10th the number of ~~predatory fine-milling revenue agents~~ heroes in blue.

You can make some time on 80.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:16 PM (PBmdd)

470 Yup, Supreme Cowards have signaled they will not intervene, no matter what the evidence is.

Just like Obamacare.

Just like gun laws.

The right to petition for redress has gone the way of all our other rights.

Bill of Rights, ex morte.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 02:10
---------------------------
Just like ghey marriage... oh, wait.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 12, 2020 02:16 PM (TArQP)

471 Everyone keeps talking Insurrection Act, Martial Law, etc.

I have maintained and continue to say that Trump doesn't and won't do that. He's not the tyrant the media insists he is. He loves an idealized, post-WW2 version of USA and he's too old and set to completely upend that.

BUT

If he ever was going to do it, he would do it not for himself but for the people. If the people marched on Washington and begged for help, he might be motivated to act.

Posted by: Shenanigans at December 12, 2020 02:19 PM (ojwvu)

472 469 If it comes down to 70 vs 80 eastbound, take 80.

About 1/10th the number of predatory fine-milling revenue agents heroes in blue.

You can make some time on 80.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:16 PM (PBmdd)

Weird.. I've driven 70 a lot of times, and except for Rifle CO, and Manitou Springs, you never see a cop.

Especially West of Green River.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 02:20 PM (d9rwJ)

473 If it comes down to 70 vs 80 eastbound, take 80.

About 1/10th the number of predatory fine-milling revenue agents heroes in blue.

You can make some time on 80.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:16 PM (PBmdd)

That's true. I got ticketed on 70 in Kansas a few years ago. I thought it was weird nobody was driving very fast, and was passing everybody... until I saw an SUV coming up behind me. Was thinking "finally, another wise traveler," and then he turned on his cherry lights.

Still, the drive through Nebraska is more boring than Kansas.

Sorry, Nebraska, it's true.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:21 PM (hku12)

474 Sorry, missed the Eastbound.... LOL.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 02:22 PM (d9rwJ)

475 >>Still, the drive through Nebraska is more boring than Kansas.

Nebraska has a tree. Which breaks it up a bit.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:22 PM (vBEKM)

476 SCOTUS just didn't have the balls to hear the case--which would have meant looking into the evidence that they didn't want to see--and that they didn't want you to see.

I don't think it was really dislike of Trump--except for Roberts and the two lesbians--but rather a fear that if the truth were known, we'd go ape shit.

There is going to be Hell to pay. In what form this will take --and who will feel the brunt of it the most--I have no idea.

But it's coming.

In that case the SCOTUS is fucking worthless and are lying every time that open their stupid suck-holes about their bullshit professed love for the Constitution.

There are more cases in front of them. If they reject them all then they can be removed from their offices like the rest.

Do you want military tribunals? Because this is how you get military tribunals.

And history will remember them as the Nine Cowardly Shit.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:22 PM (QUOVv)

477
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:15 PM (vBEKM)
Tweet number 1:

https://tinyurl.com/y26cnnuo

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:23 PM (DJFLF)

478 Vernon Jones

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 02:23 PM (CZm2G)

479 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:16 PM (PBmdd)

Weird.. I've driven 70 a lot of times, and except for Rifle CO, and Manitou Springs, you never see a cop.

Especially West of Green River.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 02:20 PM (d9rwJ)

My most recent ticket was in Glenwood Springs. The guy told me there had been a recent fatality in the area, so they were clamping down. I wonder if he says that every time he pulls someone over.

Anyhoo, he could have ticketed me at a much higher speed, in a construction zone, and basically gave me a "break" on it. So there's that.

As for west of Green River, now you're in Utah. I don't think they have cops in Utah.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:24 PM (hku12)

480 Tweet number 2:

https://tinyurl.com/y4ynd8sb

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:24 PM (DJFLF)

481 I have the impression all Democrats are scum. A handful of Republicans aren't scum. A few more Republicans are trying, with little success, to rise above scum.
I'm feeling kind of irritable so I'm sure I'm being unfair.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 12, 2020 02:25 PM (lgiXo)

482 Still, the drive through Nebraska is more boring than Kansas.

Sorry, Nebraska, it's true.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:21 PM (hku12)

I disagree. But then I've seen Nebraska from other vantages than the interstate. Wife and I have it on our list of places to retire, mainly the McCook, North Platte, Ogalala area.

the Sand Hills up in the northwest part are intriguing as well, very rural.

That said, the slog along I-80 is exhausting.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2020 02:25 PM (x8Wzq)

483 >>As for west of Green River, now you're in Utah. I don't think they have cops in Utah.

Try driving through Montgomery and get back to me.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:26 PM (vBEKM)

484 Still, the drive through Nebraska is more boring than Kansas.

Sorry, Nebraska, it's true.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:21 PM (hku12)

oof! Never been to those states now that i think of it. The two that have been boring in my trips are TN and Arkansas. I think TN is a fine state, but it can be hell on terrestrial radio. The thing with Arkansas is you are either going towards Little Rock or leaving Little Rock.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:26 PM (3frqk)

485 Still, the drive through Nebraska is more boring than Kansas.
--------------

Nebraska has a tree. Which breaks it up a bit.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:22 PM (vBEKM)

Kansas terrain is interesting, if you like that sort of thing. It appears the Earth is starting to break itself up, with impressions and/or rock outcroppings. It's like the planet is letting you know the Rockies are just up ahead.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:27 PM (hku12)

486 And finally, President Trump:
"The Supreme Court really let us down. No wisdom, no courage"

https://tinyurl.com/y5lgkusx
(He had been tweeting out WISDOM and COURAGE the day before the cowards pussied/sold out)

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:27 PM (DJFLF)

487 The main reason I avoid I-80 in Wyoming is the trucks. It's exhausting trying to maneuver around them. And they always try passing one another uphill.

When I go to Utah I take US 40.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2020 02:28 PM (x8Wzq)

488 >>Kansas terrain is interesting, if you like that sort of thing. It appears the Earth is starting to break itself up, with impressions and/or rock outcroppings. It's like the planet is letting you know the Rockies are just up ahead.

Lotta beauty to be found on the Plains. Subtle, though

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:28 PM (vBEKM)

489 Yeah, I think that's the way to go. I mean, I hate the thought of going I-80 the whole way. That's a horrible drive. So the alternate is US routes just south of I-70, US 50 and/or 40 mostly, and then pick up 70 at some point east of Denver. Somewhere in Kansas. Or not. 70 through Kansas isn't exactly paradise either.
Posted by: BurtTC

I understand. If you need a place to crash on I70 I'm 27 mi from the Utah border on I 70. Nice guest room.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (QoPXA)

490 I disagree. But then I've seen Nebraska from other vantages than the
interstate. Wife and I have it on our list of places to retire, mainly
the McCook, North Platte, Ogalala area.

that is where Dee Boot and Clara Allen resided.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (3frqk)

491 Everyone keeps talking Insurrection Act, Martial Law, etc.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

This is NOT going to happen.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (HrMC1)

492 https://tinyurl.com/y5y2yu3e

Republicans are blowing it in Georgia, and we may all pay the price

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (QUOVv)

493 Wall of Shame:

https://tinyurl.com/y45ztdzy
My buddy never trusted Amy Conehead Barrett because she has beady eyes.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:30 PM (DJFLF)

494
Try driving through Montgomery and get back to me.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:26 PM (vBEKM)

Heh, try driving to Lake Powell in the summer. Cops used to confiscate your beer if it didn't have UT tax stamp on it. Not sure if they still do.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:30 PM (QoPXA)

495 What you are all forgetting in this?

Have you seen the size of John Robert's security detail?

They don't care, because they don't have to!

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:31 PM (AccAH)

496 We need more Wops on SCOTUS.
Guys like Scalia and Alito.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:31 PM (HrMC1)

497 As for west of Green River, now you're in Utah. I don't think they have cops in Utah.

---------
Try driving through Montgomery and get back to me.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:26 PM (vBEKM)

According to my internet, there's no such place as Montgomery, Utah.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:31 PM (hku12)

498 Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (QUOVv)

yeah, we see that here. It is like reporting on ourselves. Not many armies or sports teams do well when they are going into battle or a big game and fighting each other at the same time.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:32 PM (3frqk)

499 Have you seen the size of John Robert's security detail?

They don't care, because they don't have to!
Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:31 PM (AccAH)

Roberts wouldn't need to actually be threatened.

He just hates Trump's guts and feels like it's his moral duty to thwart him at every turn.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:32 PM (HrMC1)

500 496
We need more Wops on SCOTUS.

Guys like Scalia and Alito.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:31 PM (HrMC1)
Joe F, since you brought it up...when I heard about the SCOTUS betrayal last nite, I thought: Yup. You can't trust Whitey.
Who are the only ones who wanted to hear the case? Alito and Thomas.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:33 PM (DJFLF)

501 Not many armies or sports teams do well when they are going into battle or a big game and fighting each other at the same time.
Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:32 PM (3frqk)

Come on Man

Posted by: Yankees of the late '70's at December 12, 2020 02:34 PM (HrMC1)

502 Still, the drive through Nebraska is more boring than Kansas.

Sorry, Nebraska, it's true.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:21 PM (hku12)

I disagree. But then I've seen Nebraska from other vantages than the interstate. Wife and I have it on our list of places to retire, mainly the McCook, North Platte, Ogalala area.

the Sand Hills up in the northwest part are intriguing as well, very rural.

That said, the slog along I-80 is exhausting.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2020 02:25 PM (x8Wzq)

Yes, I'm sure off the interstate has its charms, and I do recall a trip taken decades ago, we stopped at/near Scott's Bluff(?). That was nice.

But yeah, the drive through... getting from Colorado to Missouri, I-80 is an awful slog.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:34 PM (hku12)

503 Amy Conehead also has that annoyingly squeaky voice that any true Supreme Court justice would be proud to flaunt to the world.

Gawd

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:34 PM (DJFLF)

504 One of the saints of the board-the kind and
compassionate Bluebell shared yesterday that today is the feast day of
the Virgin of Guadalupe. The Virgin Mary is the patroness of North and
South America for the Virgin of Guadalupe since she appeared to a
peasant in Mexico City and the vision which he had of her appeared on
his cloak. It is a very interesting story, for those that have an
interest in that sort of thing. (I do) So, anyway, Bluebell shared that
she was going to ask for the Virgin Mary-the Virgin of Guadalupe to pray
for America today:

https://tinyurl.com/yyo4x9d5

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 01:45 PM (WkPC9)

One of the speakers in DC today brought along a portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe for Melania.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 02:34 PM (946rW)

505 https://tinyurl.com/y5y2yu3e

Republicans are blowing it in Georgia, and we may all pay the price

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (QUOVv)

They are clueless/stupid/arrogant/don't want to win. It looks like they are throwing those elections.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:35 PM (OH8YU)

506 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"Justices Alito and Thomas say they would have allowed Texas to proceed with its election lawsuit." @seanhannity
This is a great and disgraceful miscarriage of justice. The people of the United States were cheated, and our Country disgraced. Never even given our day in Court!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:35 PM (QUOVv)

507 Maybe it's Monticello...now that I think about it

SR 191 between Moab and Mexican Hat.

Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (vBEKM)

508
One of the speakers in DC today brought along a portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe for Melania.
Posted by: redbanzai

Very nice!

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (QoPXA)

509 Yeah, I think that's the way to go. I mean, I hate the thought of going I-80 the whole way. That's a horrible drive. So the alternate is US routes just south of I-70, US 50 and/or 40 mostly, and then pick up 70 at some point east of Denver. Somewhere in Kansas. Or not. 70 through Kansas isn't exactly paradise either.
Posted by: BurtTC

I understand. If you need a place to crash on I70 I'm 27 mi from the Utah border on I 70. Nice guest room.
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:29 PM (QoPXA)

Well..... not to be too specific, but that close to the Utah/Colorado state line?

I don't actually need a place to crash.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (hku12)

510 We need more Wops on SCOTUS.

Guys like Scalia and Alito.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:31 PM (HrMC1)
Joe F, since you brought it up...when I heard about the SCOTUS betrayal last nite, I thought: Yup. You can't trust Whitey.
Who are the only ones who wanted to hear the case? Alito and Thomas.

Posted by: kallisto at December 12, 2020 02:33 PM (DJFLF)

Too many Micks on the Court, not Wops.

The Micks, they're rebellious until they make it--then they are Establishment.

The Italians stay loyal

Posted by: Yankees of the late '70's at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (HrMC1)

511 Mangy Coyote SCROTUM > SCOTUS

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (R/m4+)

512 it is like some think that when we lose the Senate, "that will show them!". It reminds me of the monologue Craig Ferguson once gave about his alcoholism. He had planned to jump off Tower Bridge in London and "that would show them". He realized later he didn't even know who "they" were.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:37 PM (3frqk)

513 Hello this is Marlon Perkins, welcome to Mutual of Omaha's Chud Kingdom...

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 02:37 PM (wo2j+)

514 The are so many state troopers in Utah, I could have traveled from borderline to borderline up I 15 one night and never paid a dime for fuel.

Posted by: Dr. Bone at December 12, 2020 02:38 PM (WOYcU)

515 Off Yankees sock

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 02:38 PM (HrMC1)

516 New Neo has a take that the SC trying to not make a decision made a decision. The actions caused from a non decision could be worse ( They will be) than calling foul and doing what is right.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 02:38 PM (Cxk7w)

517 Maybe it's Monticello...now that I think about it

SR 191 between Moab and Mexican Hat.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (vBEKM)

Yeah. I have driven that road.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (mzC78)

518 Come on Man

Posted by: Yankees of the late '70's at December 12, 2020 02:34 PM (HrMC1)

they had talent to spare. The Dodgers were loaded with All Stars, but still, it was not enough.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (3frqk)

519 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
"Justices Alito and Thomas say they would have allowed Texas to proceed with its election lawsuit." @seanhannity

This is a great and disgraceful miscarriage of justice. The people of
the United States were cheated, and our Country disgraced. Never even
given our day in Court!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:35 PM (QUOVv)

He's 100% correct.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (OH8YU)

520 None of you constitutional scholars have any idea what's going on with SCOTUS other than what was issued in refusing to hear the Texas case. Did all the other ones disappear?

I will say this: any SCOTUS justice who adheres to any branch of Christianity who is afraid to do the right thing because they could be killed needs to step down.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (KAi1n)

521 Mexipharmcy.Mx has Hcq and ivermectin

Posted by: Free tibet at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (EiEDi)

522 SR 191 between Moab and Mexican Hat.
Posted by: garrett

Took that route home from visiting bro in Vegas one year. Part of it on Route 66 and then thru Monument Valley. Cheap smokes on the res.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (QoPXA)

523 Maybe it's Monticello...now that I think about it

SR 191 between Moab and Mexican Hat.
Posted by: garrett at December 12, 2020 02:36 PM (vBEKM)

Ah! I'm well familiar. There's a quickie mart type place in Monticello, I've now stopped in there twice in the past decade. Otherwise I remember nothing about the town.

191 is a fun drive. I've not seen a cop on my drives, and I don't tend to observe the speed limit... I mean, I observe it. But from my rearview mirror.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (hku12)

524 it is like some think that when we lose the Senate, "that will show them!". It reminds me of the monologue Craig Ferguson once gave about his alcoholism. He had planned to jump off Tower Bridge in London and "that would show them". He realized later he didn't even know who "they" were.
Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:37 PM (3frqk)

Craig Ferguson was always my favorite of the late night hosts. Funny as hell, cool accent, and the time he talked about becoming an American citizen was genuine and heartfelt.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at December 12, 2020 02:40 PM (x8Wzq)

525
it is like some think that when we lose the Senate, "that will show
them!". It reminds me of the monologue Craig Ferguson once gave about
his alcoholism. He had planned to jump off Tower Bridge in London and
"that would show them". He realized later he didn't even know who "they"
were.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:37 PM (3frqk)

You are missing the point, Quint. Whether or not "it will show them", our voting has no affect on elections that are decided by fraud. In a circumstance like that, voting at all only lays a thin scum of respectability over fraudulent processes.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 02:40 PM (946rW)

526 One of the speakers in DC today brought along a portrait of Our Lady of Guadalupe for Melania.

That is nice!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 12, 2020 02:40 PM (WkPC9)

527 Really, in all of this. It feels like 1963. When I was five years old. And the news just came over the radio. That JFK had been assassinated.

Time stopped. The world was silent, still, and motionless. Now the death of a Nation.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:41 PM (AccAH)

528 it is like some think that when we lose the Senate,
"that will show them!". It reminds me of the monologue Craig Ferguson
once gave about his alcoholism. He had planned to jump off Tower Bridge
in London and "that would show them". He realized later he didn't even
know who "they" were.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:37 PM (3frqk)

Let's say the Republicans win both seats. First thing they will do is sell us out. Lee, Romney, Sasse, Murkowski, Collins. It's the party of sell outs. I'm not saying I don't want them to win but they will sell us out as they always do. What's Bongino's line a lot of Republicans are Democrat and all Democrats are Democrats.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:42 PM (OH8YU)

529 SR 191 between Moab and Mexican Hat.
Posted by: garrett

Took that route home from visiting bro in Vegas one year. Part of it on Route 66 and then thru Monument Valley. Cheap smokes on the res.
Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (QoPXA)

Monument Valley, possibly the most underrated place on the planet, in terms of its sheer beauty.

I describe it as a Road Runner cartoon, in real life. If you hadn't seen it for yourself, you'd swear such a place can't possibly exist.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:42 PM (hku12)

530 None of you constitutional scholars have any idea
what's going on with SCOTUS other than what was issued in refusing to
hear the Texas case. Did all the other ones disappear?

I will
say this: any SCOTUS justice who adheres to any branch of Christianity
who is afraid to do the right thing because they could be killed needs
to step down.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (KAi1n)

There are, I think, 6 cases at SCOTUS with more to come. At least 2 of the 6 have docket numbers (Kelly v cheating asshoes in PA and Lin Wood v ratfucking traitor Raffensperger).

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 02:43 PM (946rW)

531 @SenatorLoeffler

.@SenTomCotton is right.

We need a transparent investigation into Hunter Biden.

The American people deserve to know the TRUTH about how he cashed in on his father's powerful position to rake in millions from shady overseas business deals.

#WheresHunter

#WheresKelly
Dominion? Fraud? Revote? Kemp? China?

You're living in October , Kelly .

Fix it or lose.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 02:43 PM (QUOVv)

532 RSBN sound man needs to wake up and cut down that rap crap while she's doing a commercial.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 02:44 PM (CZm2G)

533 @redbanzai

They only unfurl the blade of righteousness. When they shove it in Lady Liberty's back..... Obamacare is a tax!

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:46 PM (AccAH)

534 I describe it as a Road Runner cartoon, in real life. If you hadn't seen it for yourself, you'd swear such a place can't possibly exist.
Posted by: BurtTC a

Yes, coming down from the top into the valley, it slowly dawns on you, as you get closer, what it is you are seeing. So many movies shot there. And depending on the time of day, the colors are wonderful. Majestic it the word I'm looking for.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:47 PM (QoPXA)

535 Doubt any SC ~~judge~~ Robed Tyrant is afraid of a death, more like not being invited to the cool dinner parties.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 02:47 PM (Cxk7w)

536 it is like some think that when we lose the Senate, "that will show them!". It reminds me of the monologue Craig Ferguson once gave about his alcoholism. He had planned to jump off Tower Bridge in London and "that would show them". He realized later he didn't even know who "they" were.
Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 02:37 PM

Was that the monologue in which he apologized for ridiculing Britney Spears and spoke about his recovery from alcoholism. It was very moving.
Apparently he was on his way out to kill but a bartender got him drunk. He stayed drunk for a year but didn't kill himself.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at December 12, 2020 02:48 PM (lgiXo)

537 Romney was the hero on his commuter train.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 02:48 PM (AccAH)

538 So I turned to CBS to watch the Army/Navy game at 3:00.

Got there just in time to get preached to about George Floyd and BLM.

Yeh...I'm over it.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at December 12, 2020 02:49 PM (3D/fK)

539 In a circumstance like that, voting at all only lays a thin scum of respectability over fraudulent processes.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 02:40 PM (946rW)

This! What keeps all states from going blue?
They cheat with impunity. No consequence for their actions except they get to run the country

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at December 12, 2020 02:49 PM (P4Pk9)

540 There are, I think, 6 cases at SCOTUS with more to
come. At least 2 of the 6 have docket numbers (Kelly v cheating asshoes
in PA and Lin Wood v ratfucking traitor Raffensperger).

Posted by: redbeanz

I like my eggs zackly.

Why haven't they been tossed? If SCOTUS is simply selling us out, it doesn't need the veneer of waiting for opposing briefs, etc.

By the way, proteins/amino acids are digested differently than other nutrients such as vitamins. Proteins/amino acids generally require an empty stomach to reduce competition in absorption. Most other kinds of nutrients require some kind of fat for the body to generate chyme (IIRC) or whatever it is that helps absorb food. examine.com and consumerlab.com are great sources of info on nutrients.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 02:49 PM (KAi1n)

541 Let's say the Republicans win both seats. First thing they will do is sell us out. Lee, Romney, Sasse, Murkowski, Collins. It's the party of sell outs. I'm not saying I don't want them to win but they will sell us out as they always do. What's Bongino's line a lot of Republicans are Democrat and all Democrats are Democrats.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 02:42 PM (OH8YU)

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Bingo, circle gets the square, etc.

It's not about showing anyone anything. It's about living in a bicameral system where a two-party setup is practically guaranteed. And where the center-left Republicans act as a stalking horse for the Communist Democrats, with no representation whatsoever for half the country.

If a new, Right Party is to live, then the Republican Party must die. It's that simple, no two ways about it - they must go.

Even if elections don't matter anymore, and we have to resort to Solidarity Party tactics to be heard, no such Party can exist here with these fucking scum running around.

Destroy the GOP.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:52 PM (PBmdd)

542 None of you constitutional scholars have any idea what's going on with SCOTUS other than what was issued in refusing to hear the Texas case. Did all the other ones disappear?

I will say this: any SCOTUS justice who adheres to any branch of Christianity who is afraid to do the right thing because they could be killed needs to step down.
Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 02:39 PM (KAi1n)

I don't know jack squat about where these things fit, in legal terms, but from where I am sitting, it didn't seem to make sense to me that Texas was bringing the case that would result in the SC taking up the topic.

And no, I'm not looking for the legal beagles here to explain to me where I'm wrong. My eyes glaze over, my tongue rolls back in my head, and I go looking at cat videos instead of following the arguments.

Posted by: BurtTC at December 12, 2020 02:52 PM (hku12)

543 https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/12/12/ hunter biden email joe biden chinese business partner are office mates
https://tinyurl.com/y3rogyyg

Problem is Sundowner is up to his eyeballs in Hunter and China, not to mention Ukraine as well.
Sundowner has probably made more from foreign countries than as a VP or Senator.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 02:53 PM (Cxk7w)

544 Health food stores used to carry golden gallon size cans of brewers yeast (balanced) and not very expensive. It's difficult to find and it's as if being balanced doesn't exist.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 02:54 PM (CZm2G)

545 Everything old is new again. Watching Gaslight.

Posted by: Infidel at December 12, 2020 02:58 PM (QoPXA)

546 Trump has 2/3rds of the Triforce? Well fuck let's find him the last shard and he can wish this whole election away.

Posted by: Broseidon Czar of the Brocean at December 12, 2020 02:59 PM (icI8A)

547 lol
"the correct term is KungFlu Panda-demic"

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 03:01 PM (QUOVv)

548 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at December 12, 2020 03:02 PM (Cxk7w)

549 some of you guys make Cowboys fans seem loyal. I say we can clear out the GOP and still try to not lose all of our rights. Do you guys see a major national election after GA that I am not seeing? The Left doesn't take hints, they don't worry about pet causes. They do everything they can to win right up to, and passed, cheating.

We can blow the party up after this election. Usually this type of stuff is done in primaries. If some want to bring on whatever, that is on them I say that will not happen, but we will be in deep shit if we lose the Senate. As bad as things seem now, the dems have a very weak hold on power. We can turn it around in two years and neuter the fraud. Or we can blow ourselves up for some pipe dream of a cause.
Nah, I like my 2A and 1A too much. I say vote Repub and then turn on the Rinos. But if this is still so divisive, it likely will finish us in the purple going blue state of GA. And btw, The South is stupid to beg Yanks to move in. They just killed their own culture for no good reason. Sure it is a free country, but you shouldn't beg to be obliterated as a culture.

At this point. I think Sherman had a point.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 03:04 PM (3frqk)

550 Even if elections don't matter anymore, and we have
to resort to Solidarity Party tactics to be heard, no such Party can
exist here with these fucking scum running around.

Destroy the GOP.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 02:52 PM (PBmdd)

Let's get rid of the scum who are on the take of the CCP or Big Tech or who ever else they whore themselves off to. If Trump can't win this then I hope that he spends the next 4 years exacting his revenge on these sellouts and gets every farking one of them primaried out of office.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 03:05 PM (4E/oj)

551 President Trump came out of the tunnel across the field at West Point to cheers and waving from cadets. I needed a Kleenex.

Posted by: Jen the original at December 12, 2020 03:09 PM (CCBu/)

552

Take the time to watch this.

Leigh Dundas - Executive order for election interference
https://tinyurl.com/y4suejm3

holy moly
includes Soros
we shall see

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 12, 2020 03:15 PM (sfhL4)

553
I was thinking about kidnapping the Michigan governor, but then I realized, that would mean I'd have to spend time around the Michigan governor.
Posted by: BurtTC

Ransom of Red Chief

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2020 03:17 PM (63Dwl)

554 Let's get rid of the scum who are on the take of the CCP or Big Tech or who ever else they whore themselves off to. If Trump can't win this then I hope that he spends the next 4 years exacting his revenge on these sellouts and gets every farking one of them primaried out of office.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 03:05 PM (4E/oj)

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Ask Chris McDaniel how that worked. And even, if you get past the primary, ask Roy Moore how that works. And if you get past McConnell and his preferred Democrat and get elected somehow, ask the rest of the Tea Party how that works.

As long as we keep listening to the dimwits and liars who keep telling conservatives they can gain traction in the GOP, we'll keep getting the same results.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 03:17 PM (PBmdd)

555 Dems have a "weak hold on power"?? Huh?

Not hardly. They just beat, or cheated out, one of the best presidents in our history with a non-candidate, with no campaign.

The institutions are garbage, all of them, really, at this point.

Whoever actually runs the Oval starting Jan. 20 can, and will, undo 95% of Trump's accomplishments with the stroke of a pen - because that's how they were achieved in the first place. Congress is a non-factor.

USMCA may be the only exception, but given the overall collapse of rule and law and accountability, I think there may be ways to use executive discretion to gut that as well.

1st amendment? 2nd amendment? For most of the country's population, those things are at best only partially in force already.

Lindsey will be the lead GOP sponsor and face of the DACA/amnesty bill that's coming. The two GA seats will make no difference in that getting passed - it will.

And if the Dems, against all the odds, actually do anything legislatively that is "radical" (note: massive bailouts for blue s***holes, and for favored industries, is not "radical" and will be supported by 90% of the GOP office-holders), then ..... the mid-terms!!!!!!

"We" will win those!!!!!!!

And if 5% of the GOP is primaried and replaced with responsible intelligent non-midgets by then, I'll eat this laptop. Ridiculous to pretend that could happen.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 03:17 PM (OTzUX)

556 Portland's 'autonomous zone' occupied by armed Antifa militants

The zone is in the middle of a residential street. Dozens of Portlandians are prisoners in their own homes. This "autonomous zone" is in the middle of a working class neighborhood.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 03:19 PM (QUOVv)

557
Really, in all of this. It feels like 1963. When I was five years old. And the news just came over the radio. That JFK had been assassinated.

Time stopped. The world was silent, still, and motionless. Now the death of a Nation.
Posted by: elmo

But this time half the country is celebrating.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 12, 2020 03:22 PM (63Dwl)

558 Y's dice, nice summary of the tactical situation.

2010 was the 2nd greatest political earthquake, at the ballot box/in terms of major party balance, in our nation's history.

It led to .......

Go ahead, remind me. At the moment I can't think of a single thing accomplished, or disaster averted, as a result of that earthquake.

2010, and Trump (both times) were very rare examples of authentic organic grass-roots political rebellion by an electorate. The precise opposite of the scripted herding of self-dealing robots or illiterate teenage girls (200

.

The "system" absorbed all of these challenges and crushed them without breaking a sweat. Only possible because so much of the country is so ignorant, bigoted, selfish, and irresponsible.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 03:23 PM (OTzUX)

559 The retail low-level border rush is now entering its 6th week, or so. Have to check on the progress of the first "caravan" - it was forming and moving in Honduras this week.

Now, another round of Unaccompanied Minor Olympics is starting at the border, exploiting (surprise!!!) more judicial vandalism.

On the signature issue which made Trump candidate and president, within 2 months, it will be like he never existed.

And there's no reason to believe that more than small minority of the electorate likes this. Illegal migration/immigration continues to rank at record high levels in unscripted, no-menu, seriously done opinion surveys - highest score ever seen outside "war" during, of course, war-time. And besides "the economy", which is always #1, always, automatically.

And the GOP, our bulwark against, well, something or other, while every day brought new lurid revelations of Third World lawlessness in the election process, responded by ..... voice-voting through Big Tech's priority for the last 2 years, on H-1Bs (after supporting related outrages for the last 4 years straight, BTW).

Man, those mid-terms are gonna rock!!! "We" are gonna win, big!!

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 03:30 PM (OTzUX)

560
Dems have a "weak hold on power"?? Huh?

Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 03:17 PM (OTzUX)

they lost a bunch of seats in the House. They would be poised to lose the Senate if we were not trying to out conservative or out righteous each other. They did not gain a single state legislature, and half the country believes they are cheats.

For a so called winner, Biden may have had the worst coat tails in history. But let's nuke our own team to make it easier for them to say this was all legit. Because if we give up, they will play nice and people will realize we wuz wronged. No, they will laugh and say they just proved this was a repudiation. They will be over Trump. They will say it repudiates McConnell, Cruz, and you and me. Fine, have at it. I have been at this game long enough to know the Dems are laughing their arses off at these arguments. No troll could even dream of sowing this much discord.

Ask yourself, not just you Rhomboid, a grey box friend, but everyone. Were you rooting for Repub wins across the board a month ago? And if you belive we were cheated then, why turn on your own side now? There is only this election. Any infighting can be done later. But I am done with this. I hope this is mostly a net thing, and I believe it is. But at this point, turning off even a percent or two could make a difference. But make no mistake if you support tanking. At best only a percent or two will join your side. It might be enough to please the Lincoln Project, but it will still be a tiny percentage of Repubs in GA.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 03:34 PM (3frqk)

561 And if the Dems, against all the odds, actually do anything legislatively that is "radical" (note: massive bailouts for blue s***holes, and for favored industries, is not "radical" and will be supported by 90% of the GOP office-holders), then ..... the mid-terms!!!!!!

"We" will win those!!!!!!!

And if 5% of the GOP is primaried and replaced with responsible intelligent non-midgets by then, I'll eat this laptop. Ridiculous to pretend that could happen.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 12, 2020 03:17 PM (OTzUX)

The two new Senators from the new states of DC and Puerto Rico will make sure the Dems own the Senate forever as well.

Or until the BLM party pushes them out for not being radical.

Posted by: Bete at December 12, 2020 03:34 PM (Ojki1)

562 555 The uniparty has the country in a vise, and is completely committed to graft. I keep hearing that maybe GA did a deal, Trump defeat for R Senators. If so I want Stacy to shiv them and cheat her fat ass off. It would serve Mitch right.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:36 PM (ONvIw)

563 Daily video reminder that Governor Murphy is a fascist prick

https://tinyurl.com/y2vj3ova

Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at December 12, 2020 03:37 PM (EIK47)

564 556 Portland's 'autonomous zone' occupied by armed Antifa militants

The zone is in the middle of a residential street. Dozens of Portlandians are prisoners in their own homes. This "autonomous zone" is in the middle of a working class neighborhood.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 03:19 PM (QUOVv)

Good and hard.

And yes, there may be people who vote differently, but when society collapses the rain falls on the just and unjust alike, and a large number of the people there have been doing rain dances and voting their way into this for decades now.

So, Good and hard.

Just like the rest of us will get under Bidet and Kamalahamihan.

Posted by: Bete at December 12, 2020 03:37 PM (Ojki1)

565 "2010, and Trump (both times) were very rare examples of authentic
organic grass-roots political rebellion by an electorate. --- The "system" absorbed all of these challenges and crushed them without breaking a sweat." rhomboid

Trump's Army was stronger and more red-pilled, momentum and awareness had grown stronger. And Trump results were more than the original "tea-party" ... which got taken over from within and by Mitch and establishment that went after them with a vengeance. And then Trump won in a landslide, yet to be determined if that qualifies as being "crushed".

Only IF Biden gets in does the potential Crushing happen ... if DeepState overplayed its hands with a raw theft of election, they may be the ones that get crushed ... or at least their may be a momentum shift against the globalists. Many "centrists" are not on the BigMafia side. imo

Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 03:38 PM (Cus5s)

566 Were you rooting for Repub wins across the board a month ago?

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I was not. I was rooting for Trump. Republicans don't make a difference. They're past their shelf-life. Time for something new. I don't even care if it represents "conservatism," whatever that even "means" anymore. Just that we have a party that represents American people, for once. Hell, we could call it the American Party.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 03:39 PM (PBmdd)

567 560 Why turn on the GOP now? They are playing along with the steal, that's why. If they even pretended to have scruples I would feel differently. That ass Perdue is already dreaming of negotiating with Biden, and Kelly and Kemp are pretty tight. So no money from me, and I unsubcribed from.all things GOP.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:39 PM (ONvIw)

568 Were you rooting for Repub wins across the board a month ago? And if you
belive we were cheated then, why turn on your own side now?
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Republicans had some nominal value to the extent they supported Trump's pro-American policies. Without him they are completely disposable. If he stays on he should be rolling tanks on the congress regardless of which uniparty faction is running it.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2020 03:40 PM (kOpft)

569 563 I am in NJ, he's asshoe

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:40 PM (ONvIw)

570 569 563 I am in NJ, he's asshoe
Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:40 PM (ONvIw)

Sadly I am not sure we could put together a softball team using just governors who haven't been asshoes on this.

And that is giving a pass to general lock down/masks in the first 3 month cause we were trusting "the science" and "experts."

So just going by the last six months...we could put together a curling team maybe?

Posted by: Bete at December 12, 2020 03:44 PM (Ojki1)

571 Many "centrists" are not on the BigMafia side. imo
Posted by: illiniwek at December 12, 2020 03:38 PM (Cus5s)

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Yes. If my dream comes true and we demolish and replace the GOP, our center Leftists will defect to the Communist mothership. Outside of DC, it's maybe eight-ten percent of us, but that's a big hit.

It will be critically imperative for us to draw in the center right faction of the Democrats like Trump did.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 03:44 PM (PBmdd)

572 570 pairs figure skating, Noem and De Santis for the gold

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:45 PM (ONvIw)

573 572 570 pairs figure skating, Noem and De Santis for the gold
Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:45 PM (ONvIw)

Those are the only two I could come up with myself. Was wondering if maybe one or two of the other 50 weren't asshoes and just weren't getting any press.

Posted by: Bete at December 12, 2020 03:48 PM (Ojki1)

574 Out all the hundreds of begs for money I have had since the election, besides Trump and Pence, only these two mentioned the fraud, the others only wanted Loeffler and Perdue. It's awful.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 03:52 PM (ONvIw)

575 In 2024 it will be Trump/Noem

Posted by: JoeF. at December 12, 2020 04:03 PM (HrMC1)

576 I have nothing left but contempt for the GOPe

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 04:05 PM (ONvIw)

577 The "fuck your feelings" crowd is really having a hard time with their feelings about Trump's loss.

Lol

Posted by: Trump hates democracy at December 12, 2020 04:06 PM (fY62D)

578 Were you rooting for Repub wins across the board a month ago? And if you
belive we were cheated then, why turn on your own side now?

This is a twist of logic. Refusing to accept the results of November is what everyone should be doing.Perdue's election would likely have happened without Dominion or other cheating. Loeffler should not have won her election any more than Biden should have.

China -owned Kemp appointed Loeffler.

Leffler wants to hide the truth about election results because she benefitted from election fraud.

Until Loeffler calls for signature verification from November and calls out Kemp and election fraud, she is Xi in a dress.

You can yell at me all you want but those are the facts.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:09 PM (QUOVv)

579 "
Destroy the GOP."

After Trump is done with it please.
Remember Morons, pillage then burn.

Posted by: DaveA at December 12, 2020 04:09 PM (FhXTo)

580 >>>The "fuck your feelings" crowd is really having a hard time with their feelings about Trump's loss.

Snowflakes are triggered.

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 04:10 PM (wo2j+)

581 @methos

How much are tickets?

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 04:14 PM (a6q2F)

582 President Trump came out of the tunnel across the field at West Point to cheers and waving from cadets. I needed a Kleenex.
Posted by: Jen the original at December 12, 2020 03:09 PM (CCBu/)

Yet there was that one place (good luck finding reports on the net now) where almost,if not all, military ballots were for Biden.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2020 04:14 PM (/Dgcm)

583 Re: SCOTUS

I now have something in common with my Bernie loving neighbor.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at December 12, 2020 04:17 PM (o9apC)

584 And if you belive we were cheated then, why turn on your own side now?

Easy. Neither the GOP nor the "vote harder" nor the "peace at all cost" crowds are on my side.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 04:17 PM (4qOdP)

585 I'm not having a hard time with Trump being robbed of his rightful win. I've always considered him a milestone. An important one, but still just a waypoint on this road.

Also: still, and always... Fuck your feelings

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 04:17 PM (PBmdd)

586 for the trolls

Even after Texas SCOTUS ruling, President Trump is still going to win

noqreport.com/

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 12, 2020 04:18 PM (sfhL4)

587 Until Loeffler calls for signature verification from November and calls out Kemp and election fraud, she is Xi in a dress.

You can yell at me all you want but those are the facts.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:09 PM (QUOVv)

You have to wonder how much business her husband does with China

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 04:18 PM (ONvIw)

588 Easy. Neither the GOP nor the "vote harder" nor the "peace at all cost" crowds are on my side.
Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 04:17 PM (4qOdP)

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Yup... I'm an American. The Republicans prefer Chinese money and Mexican nationals to me. Just how in the fuck are they on "my side?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 12, 2020 04:20 PM (PBmdd)

589 Even after Texas SCOTUS ruling, President Trump is still going to win

noqreport.com/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 12, 2020 04:18 PM (sfhL4)

Trump did win, we just need the fraud fully exposed (including elected officials and agencies who supported it), and a full airing of the truth to the people. This has not happened yet.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 04:21 PM (ONvIw)

590
Yet there was that one place (good luck finding
reports on the net now) where almost,if not all, military ballots were
for Biden.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2020 04:14 PM (/Dgcm)

I think it was in Georgia (surprise) that 900 military ballots showed up. All 900 were for Biden.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 12, 2020 04:21 PM (LiaiA)

591 You have to wonder how much business her husband does with China

Posted by: CN

Massive amounts of business. He is worth a billion plus. She is worth 800 million.
They got rich buying stock exchanges and investing in Chinese startups.

Is it any wonder that Brian Kemp who was 800k in debt when he took office, appointed wealthy Kelly Loeffler over Doug Collins?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:22 PM (QUOVv)

592 Trumpy Piss Boys just jumped an active duty soldier in DC.

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 04:22 PM (wo2j+)

593 @artisanal

I'm 2:25 in. I'm sold on going the distance.

Initial opinion? Everyone at the DC event, so busy thanking the President. Didn't notice, he's still on point. In Command.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 04:23 PM (a6q2F)

594
I think it was in Georgia (surprise) that 900 military ballots showed up. All 900 were for Biden.

Yes it was Fulton county in the heart of Atlanta. Same place that they originally announced the "water pipe break".

Damn this state. I am headed to Alabama ASAP.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:24 PM (QUOVv)

595 Is it any wonder that Brian Kemp who was 800k in debt when he took office, appointed wealthy Kelly Loeffler over Doug Collins?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:22 PM (QUOVv)

It's all about Richie Rich getting more, more, more.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 04:24 PM (ONvIw)

596 Listened to short pod cast with Powerlines John Hinderaker on election fraud, never heard before in Georga thousands of under age voters took place.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 04:24 PM (Cxk7w)

597 596 Listened to short pod cast with Powerlines John Hinderaker on election fraud, never heard before in Georga thousands of under age voters took place.
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 04:24 PM (Cxk7w

They need to be disenfranchised, asap. And maybe permanently, felonious brats

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 04:25 PM (ONvIw)

598 et there was that one place (good luck finding reports on the net now) where almost,if not all, military ballots were for Biden.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2020 04:14 PM (/Dgcm)

I don't believe that. There is no way most if not all military ballots were for Biden. I get people are pissed But we can't just say anything. any proof at all for this?
I just checked out Loeffler online. She seems like a major BS'er and GOPe. She says "local communities" should rename military bases. So what does that mean exactly? Does Columbus GA decide the new name for Ft. Benning. Do the troops there get a vote? I know when I was there 99 percent of troops had no clue who Ft. Benning was named for and 100 percent did not care.

Still, even as a GOPe, she is better than the alternative. But I do get why people are pissed. I am pissed too. It is just that I want to check the liberal fascists at every turn. Still we need to get rid of people who don't give a damn when it comes down to it. To me it is just timing. But I do see where this thing could easily fall apart.

If either of those two vote to override the president's veto, they should not expect a lot of support. Again, they are better than the alternative in my book. But yes, there is a major problem, we all see it and something does need to be done.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 04:27 PM (3frqk)

599 @4:00 minutes (six more to go) Leigh Dundas, YouTube. Mighty f'ing interesting.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 04:29 PM (a6q2F)

600 Still, even as a GOPe, she is better than the alternative. But I do get
why people are pissed. I am pissed too. It is just that I want to check
the liberal fascists at every turn.

Agreed. I don't mind voting for a RINO asshole. My problem remains that voting for Loeffler is voting AGAINST Stopping the Steal from November.

Bitch just wants us all to forget November, kiss her ass and Moveon.org.

Fuck that. She wants to be a Senatewhore and get my vote tucked in that gstring?

She better start shaking that ass now.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:36 PM (QUOVv)

601 @7:00. Leigh Dundas, YouTube video. That inside straight, we were drawing to? Doesn't look so impossible anymore.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 04:37 PM (a6q2F)

602 552

Take the time to watch this.

Leigh Dundas - Executive order for election interference
https://tinyurl.com/y4suejm3

holy moly
includes Soros
we shall see
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 12, 2020 03:15 PM (sfhL4)
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On or about the 18th?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 04:37 PM (CZm2G)

603 Yet there was that one place (good luck finding

reports on the net now) where almost,if not all, military ballots were

for Biden.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at December 12, 2020 04:14 PM (/Dgcm)

i misunderstood you there Burnt Toast. Thanks for mentioning that, it does sound crazy. I thought you were talking about something else and then said all military votes went for Biden. 900 votes is beyond questionable if they went for that schmuck.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 04:38 PM (3frqk)

604 elmo, IKR?

Almost as if there were a plan in place to fight back.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:39 PM (QUOVv)

605 Even after Texas SCOTUS ruling, President Trump is still going to win

noqreport.com/
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 12, 2020 04:18 PM

I too, believe this.

Posted by: one of the quiet ones at December 12, 2020 04:43 PM (2GPSc)

606 Fuck that. She wants to be a Senatewhore and get my vote tucked in that gstring? She better start shaking that ass now.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:36 PM (QUOVv)

That was a damn good turn of phrase. I apologize in advance for stealing it. And using it a lot.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 04:44 PM (4qOdP)

607 It's definitely Santa Claus stuff. Ho ho and Merry Christmas. But even though I breathe politics. Doesn't mean I'm the eternal cynic. Or have given up. Only that my belief in the skill, dedication, hard work, and patriotism, of the President. Is quite strongly reinforced, by Dundas' presentation.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 04:45 PM (a6q2F)

608 Jenna Ellis Retweeted
David Steinberg
@realDSteinberg

The Constitution is 4 pages.

We're furious because Originalists treated a simple matter of federalism as a contentious, even unanswerable, question of "standing."

No state would have joined the union knowing the other 49 can violate the Electors Clause. Or any clause. The end.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:47 PM (QUOVv)

609 No state would have joined the union knowing the other 49 can violate the Electors Clause. Or any clause. The end.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 12, 2020 04:47 PM (QUOVv)

Give a listen to those that still today insist no state can leave such shit. Its all just variations of "It'll be hard. I might go hungry."

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 04:56 PM (4qOdP)

610 Ms. Dundas needs to get different glasses. They do not compliment her face at all.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 04:57 PM (KAi1n)

611 To fkin funny in a mad way, had to get through a website showing how great Biden won and don't you question it

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 04:57 PM (Cxk7w)

612 On or about the 18th?

Posted by: Braenyard at December 12, 2020 04:37 PM (CZm2G)

Right around the conjunction.

Posted by: Methos at December 12, 2020 04:58 PM (kOpft)

613 Would you like some more yuan, Justice Barrett?

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at December 12, 2020 05:02 PM (W4eKo)

614 Can you imagine being on troll duty on Saturday afternoon? That is low man on the septic tank pumping out business right there Gonzo.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 12, 2020 05:02 PM (4NtsG)

615 The War Between the States created a uni-government; the Texas decision just confirms it. And like Hotel California, you can never leave.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 12, 2020 05:04 PM (4NtsG)

616 Trump lost his 58th post election court case a few hours ago.

Fun fact.

Trump has been officially defeated at every single level of our court system...

A remarkable accomplishment that will live in history...

Forever

Lmfao

Posted by: Trump is such a loser at December 12, 2020 05:10 PM (gJHf7)

617 fu

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 05:12 PM (3frqk)

618 sorry, let me be more clear.
F.U.

Posted by: Quint at December 12, 2020 05:12 PM (3frqk)

619 The War Between the States created a uni-government; the Texas decision just confirms it. And like Hotel California, you can never leave.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 12, 2020 05:04 PM (4NtsG)

Only we would, with a straight face, pile praise upon Lincoln - while simultaneously supporting pretty much every other little territory in the world that wants independence.

Honestly - to be consistent - the "War of Southern Butt Hurt" bunch should be telling Taiwan and Hong Kong to shut the fvck up and accept their fate.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 05:15 PM (4qOdP)

620 Leigh has that librarian look down well.
I hope but that was weeks ago and this drain is circling down fast.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 05:16 PM (Cxk7w)

621 Stop responding to the trolls. That's what they want. Aside from Trump hasn't lost 58 cases, the last thing he wants is to win one below the Supreme Court level because that would take forever to resolve. It's not like the judges are actually reviewing the evidence considering there hasn't even been a summary judgment motion.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 05:17 PM (KAi1n)

622 We run out of runway, after the Electoral College votes.

It was a fun ten minutes though.

The Fat Lady is standing by, that's for sure.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 05:19 PM (a6q2F)

623 620 Leigh has that librarian look down well.
I hope but that was weeks ago and this drain is circling down fast.
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 05:16 PM (Cxk7w)

If the DNI has the alleged German machines, and releases the info, can the election be repaired, or will the DOJ even act against the foreign entities and their US accomplices? It's not impossible that the DOJ was in on the deal, so I think they'll move to make the EO unconstitutional despite all their BS about muh Russia

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:20 PM (ONvIw)

624 Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:20 PM (ONvIw)

Barr made his announcement about 'nothing to see here' AFTER those machines were taken.

DOJ ain't gonna do squat.

Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 05:22 PM (d9rwJ)

625 And I understand the DNI was given 45 days (which seems excessive), but why give the perps a way to "do the right thing", just bring the house down on their heads and not let them hone their skills.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:23 PM (ONvIw)

626 CN never put anything past the DOJ being anything.

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 05:24 PM (Cxk7w)

627
Barr made his announcement about 'nothing to see here' AFTER those machines were taken.

DOJ ain't gonna do squat.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 12, 2020 05:22 PM (d9rwJ)

He's a despicable man, and the liar I always believed he was.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:24 PM (ONvIw)

628 626 CN never put anything past the DOJ being anything.
Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 05:24 PM (Cxk7w)

I no longer care about being called "a long term troll" or any of that other crap. Barr is thoroughly corrupt and Wray is worse

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:25 PM (ONvIw)

629 I just find it interesting that the trolls never brag about policy. Just "YOUR BOY LOST!" and maybe throws in some accusation of bigotry.

It's NEVER "Haha, we're gonna shove $10/gal. gas down your throat, suckers!".

Posted by: Allie at December 12, 2020 05:30 PM (vmRc0)

630 552

Take the time to watch this.

Leigh Dundas - Executive order for election interference
https://tinyurl.com/y4suejm3

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 12, 2020 03:15 PM (sfhL4)

That video is a month old. I think that EO expires soon and the DNI report is due Friday. I wish it were true, but boy...

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:30 PM (9UmRs)

631 Bill Barr's defense of Lon Horiuchi is public record - and has been brought up enough here for all to know. That some still defend him tells you all you need to know.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 05:32 PM (4qOdP)

632 622
We run out of runway, after the Electoral College votes.

Posted by: elmo

Really? Why?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 05:32 PM (KAi1n)

633 630
************
What is 45 days after the election? The report is supposed to be on Trumps desk 45 days post election. That would be this week. After everything we've seen, I think they can conclude that there was interference.

Posted by: Megthered at December 12, 2020 05:34 PM (SM/op)

634 And why does DOJ matter? I don't see Jack Squat about DOJ in the Constitution. I do see a reference a to the executive power of the United States being vested in a President. Did anyone read up on the EO that apparently expanded DHS's authority in election security?

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 05:35 PM (KAi1n)

635 What is 45 days after the election? The report is supposed to be on Trumps desk 45 days post election. That would be this week. After everything we've seen, I think they can conclude that there was interference.
Posted by: Megthered at December 12, 2020 05:34 PM (SM/op)

Barr will act against the order and support foreign interference, nothing is too low

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:35 PM (ONvIw)

636 I know there is supposed to be a report on the integrity of the election at some point .

Posted by: Skip at December 12, 2020 05:36 PM (Cxk7w)

637 634 And why does DOJ matter? I don't see Jack Squat about DOJ in the Constitution. I do see a reference a to the executive power of the United States being vested in a President. Did anyone read up on the EO that apparently expanded DHS's authority in election security?
Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 05:35 PM (KAi1n)

I don't see DHS arresting fellow deep state traitors

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:36 PM (ONvIw)

638 I don't see DHS arresting fellow deep state traitors
Posted by: CN

Well maybe in another life, don't outsource your representative government. Participate.

Posted by: SFGoth at December 12, 2020 05:38 PM (KAi1n)

639 I'd love to see Federal Marshalls drag BArr and Wray and a few dozed prominent donks off in cuffs, but I'm not betting on it.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:38 PM (ONvIw)

640 I've read that if the DNI report finds foreign interference, the Insurrection Act would be invoked. The DoJ is excluded and military tribunals would be used in their place.

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:39 PM (9UmRs)

641 640 I've read that if the DNI report finds foreign interference, the Insurrection Act would be invoked. The DoJ is excluded and military tribunals would be used in their place.
Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:39 PM (9UmRs)

So that's why Esper was canned?

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:40 PM (ONvIw)

642 Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 05:32 PM (4qOdP)

Yeah...count me guilty of trying to ignore Barr's record of defending Horiuchi and hoping that he'd be honest.
It looks like Barr is a Bushie thrown into the DoJ to drop sand into the gears.

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:41 PM (9UmRs)

643 >>>I've read that if the DNI report finds foreign interference, the Insurrection Act would be invoked. The DoJ is excluded and military tribunals would be used in their place.

Subscription to stupidshit.com?

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 05:41 PM (wo2j+)

644 Yeah...count me guilty of trying to ignore Barr's record of defending Horiuchi and hoping that he'd be honest.
It looks like Barr is a Bushie thrown into the DoJ to drop sand into the gears.
Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:41 PM (9UmRs)

I hoped Sessions would be honest, I didn't expect a lot from Barr.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:43 PM (ONvIw)

645
So that's why Esper was canned?
Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:40 PM (ONvIw)

I forget what it was, but Esper had a disagreement with PDT and resigned over it. One of the Congress women in my state is a former CIA apparatchik and noted immediately that PDT might be planning to do something that his SecDef wouldn't go along with.

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:43 PM (9UmRs)

646 Must be somethIng to all of this CN, because the trolls monitor this blog and start with their stupid shit when their attempted theft of the election is challenged.

PDT still has the support of the military.

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:45 PM (9UmRs)

647 645 Esper was fired.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:45 PM (ONvIw)

648 >>>PDT still has the support of the military.

Nope.

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 05:47 PM (wo2j+)

649 oh, right the military supports China Joe and endless war with stupid ROE...right gonz

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 05:49 PM (ONvIw)

650 Military does not support Trump and his contempt for those who serve or complete lack of integrity. He's close to 50, but below average Repub.

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 05:52 PM (wo2j+)

651 sure gonezo

Posted by: vizzy at December 12, 2020 05:55 PM (R/9t3)

652 Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:41 PM (9UmRs)

Meh - you're still welcome to help yourself to my beer cooler. Taking the black pill sucks. I bitch - but I don't really blame anyone for not taking the plunge.

Posted by: Endeavor To Persevere at December 12, 2020 05:57 PM (4qOdP)

653 Unrecognizable trolls are nervous. They know they stole this election.

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 05:57 PM (9UmRs)

654 653: His last comment made no sense, a word salad.

Posted by: CN at December 12, 2020 06:01 PM (ONvIw)

655 Trump lost because his pandemic response has been incompetent. Well, that and people think he's an asshole.

Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 06:07 PM (wo2j+)

656 @sfgoth

It's a stage play. Once you lose the narrative. You lose more hearts and minds. After that event, you will need a VTOL aircraft to maneuver.

We would then be drawing for two cards, to an inside straight.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 06:13 PM (9WaV6)

657 Bowling League president Biden's, AG shortlist. Includes Sally Yates.

We won't be at mortal risk from the Left, ANTIFA, and the CTO (creepfilth tech overlords).

We will be in physical jeopardy, from a fully weaponized FBI.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 06:17 PM (9WaV6)

658 We run out of runway, after the Electoral College votes.

It was a fun ten minutes though.

The Fat Lady is standing by, that's for sure.

Posted by: elmo at December 12, 2020 05:19 PM (a6q2F)

We actually haven't.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 12, 2020 06:22 PM (946rW)

659 655 Trump lost because his pandemic response has been incompetent. Well, that and people think he's an asshole.
Posted by: Gonzoloid at December 12, 2020 06:07 PM (wo2j+)

THIS times a thousand

Posted by: Trump is completely incompetent at December 12, 2020 06:41 PM (Ttyuf)

660 Ahhh, this troll is that Denver toilet guy. What a weird freak.

Posted by: clutch at December 12, 2020 06:42 PM (9UmRs)

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