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Tucker Carlson: As America Faces One of the Highest Levels of Unemployment Ever, Republican Senators Decide to Flood India and China with H1-B Visas
As he points out: These aren't the lettuce-picking jobs the GOP Corporate Graft class routinely says "Americans don't want to do."
These are the high-paying tech jobs that Americans do want to do -- and in fact, the jobs Americans are supposed to train to get when they're laid off from other industries flooded with immigrant labor. ("Learn to code," peons.) And the GOP -- the GOP whose only constituents are megacorporations and, strangely, the tech monopolies seeking to eradicate the GOP from government and society generally -- decided to give high-paying jobs to foreigners. Again. Is everyone psyched about voting in two more GOP Senators in Georgia? They'll really look out for us, right? You know, there is a very strong and very plausible suspicion that the GOP has colluded with the Democrats to rig the election against Trump -- so they can get back to endlessly servicing their only real constituents, megacorporations and tech monopolies. The GOP demonstrates here that that's true -- they could not even wait until the Commander in Thief Biden is sworn in before proving their allegiance to their plutocrat masters once again.“Department of Justice’s lawsuit alleges Facebook engaged in intentional and widespread violations of the law, by setting aside positions for temporary visa holders instead of considering interested and qualified U.S. workers,” said Asst AG Eric Dreiband of Civil Rights Division. https://t.co/4UWq50VDxn
— Josh Caplan (@joshdcaplan) December 3, 2020
PS, yes, I know: The boycott. I looked for a non-Fox video of the clip but apparently, now that Fox has joined the left, YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
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first!
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 04, 2020 02:10 PM (+2xjH)
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Yeah the discrimination against American workers is well known in the industry. The trick is to list requirements that no one can fill and then hire an import who also doesn't meet the impossible requirements.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:11 PM (Zm+LZ)
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The RiNOs are thoroughly impressed with and completely on-board with the Democrats method for election stealing.
Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2020 02:11 PM (E4iZr)
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First ELECT, so there
Posted by: Rage Stroked but getting the banned back together at December 04, 2020 02:11 PM (PNmwn)
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The GOP really makes it easy to want to get out and vote to keep the Senate.
/sarc.
(yeah, yeah, I know, but I hate them because this time instead of holding our noses, we have to spread our ass cheeks wide and gape it.)
The GOP really makes it easy to want to get out and vote to keep the Senate.
/sarc.
(yeah, yeah, I know, but I hate them because this time instead of holding our noses, we have to spread our ass cheeks wide and gape it.)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2020 02:11 PM (s2VJv)
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Trump will veto it.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:12 PM (2BZBZ)
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YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
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Can you link through Hooktube?
All the views, none of the monetization.
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Can you link through Hooktube?
All the views, none of the monetization.
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at December 04, 2020 02:12 PM (JOdJQ)
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They won't open the country up and let companies do business freely.
This is just a Big Tech payoff for their help in getting rid of Trump.
Burn every fucking Senator voting for this, on either side of the aisle.
This is just a Big Tech payoff for their help in getting rid of Trump.
Burn every fucking Senator voting for this, on either side of the aisle.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 04, 2020 02:12 PM (ifmtJ)
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by helping "us", they mean helping their corporate donors.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:12 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:12 PM (6vHcr)
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And they are screaming
COVID-19 IS ON THE RISE! Lock everyone down!
COVID-19 IS ON THE RISE! Lock everyone down!
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:12 PM (9sWOw)
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I see my decision to give up on getting a decent paying IT job was well founded.
Hard to have dreams when someone keeps selling them out from under you.
Hard to have dreams when someone keeps selling them out from under you.
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (OUMaO)
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They could just relocate all of Facebook to India, couldn't they?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (oVJmc)
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The industry is rife with H-1B abuse and borderline (if not outright) fraud. Nice to see that it's being further legitimized.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hYcqw)
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Are we facing one of the highest unemployment levels ever?
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (6vHcr)
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WE have no party.
They have voters, but not constituents.
Same as it ever was, I guess. We just were slow, so very slow to figure it out.
Vic is right. We have no party.
They have voters, but not constituents.
Same as it ever was, I guess. We just were slow, so very slow to figure it out.
Vic is right. We have no party.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (z79tQ)
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Related.
https://tinyurl.com/yy5ae8nr
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
FEC: @GOP/RNC scammed you out of $200 million since Election Day to "combat voter fraud."
Know how much they spent on legal doing that?
$4 million. 2%.
The RINOs pocketed 98% of your donations and did nothing to help
@realDonaldTrump
.
Don't give them another dime.
10:43 AM
https://tinyurl.com/yy5ae8nr
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
FEC: @GOP/RNC scammed you out of $200 million since Election Day to "combat voter fraud."
Know how much they spent on legal doing that?
$4 million. 2%.
The RINOs pocketed 98% of your donations and did nothing to help
@realDonaldTrump
.
Don't give them another dime.
10:43 AM
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (R1LMN)
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So the coal miners that learned to code get screwed again
Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (FsgBK)
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We should vote for the two in Georgia. Depending on what happens after Jan.20, 2021 though....
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (0jZnq)
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I see my decision to give up on getting a decent paying IT job was well founded.
Hard to have dreams when someone keeps selling them out from under you.
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (OUMaO)
Don't worry. Under a Biden administration, we'll be importing top technical people from China, Iran, and other countries. Hey, I hear even North Korea have folks very good with computers...
I see my decision to give up on getting a decent paying IT job was well founded.
Hard to have dreams when someone keeps selling them out from under you.
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (OUMaO)
Don't worry. Under a Biden administration, we'll be importing top technical people from China, Iran, and other countries. Hey, I hear even North Korea have folks very good with computers...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (ynpvh)
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PS, yes, I know: The boycott. I looked for a non-Fox video of the clip but apparently, now that Fox has joined the left, YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
And they've actually pushed Fox videos to the top of their recommendations.
The leverage Big Tech is applying really needs to be broken.
PS, yes, I know: The boycott. I looked for a non-Fox video of the clip but apparently, now that Fox has joined the left, YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
And they've actually pushed Fox videos to the top of their recommendations.
The leverage Big Tech is applying really needs to be broken.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (oVJmc)
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yup
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (L8ADy)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (LvTSG)
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Yeah the discrimination against American workers is well known in the industry. The trick is to list requirements that no one can fill and then hire an import who also doesn't meet the impossible requirements.
Another trick I ran into was to give my resume to someone else. Ta-dah! He's just as qualified.
Another trick I ran into was to give my resume to someone else. Ta-dah! He's just as qualified.
Posted by: t-bird at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (/2aWP)
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"Is everyone psyched about voting in two more GOP Senators in Georgia?
They'll really look out for us, right?
You know, there is a very strong and very plausible suspicion that the GOP has colluded with the Democrats to rig the election against Trump -- so they can get back to endlessly servicing their only real constituents, megacorporations and tech monopolies."
If the Georgia senators come up short, they need to look at their "colleagues" to ascertain what happened. As disgusting a pig as Lee is, he has company. As soon as the ink dried on their certifications, Graham and Cornyn started to agitate for amnesty.
Loeffler and Perdue could help themselves by denouncing the visa expansions, the upcoming amnesty and the election fraud that put them into this position. But, of course, Rove and McConnell don't want to hear these things.
They'll really look out for us, right?
You know, there is a very strong and very plausible suspicion that the GOP has colluded with the Democrats to rig the election against Trump -- so they can get back to endlessly servicing their only real constituents, megacorporations and tech monopolies."
If the Georgia senators come up short, they need to look at their "colleagues" to ascertain what happened. As disgusting a pig as Lee is, he has company. As soon as the ink dried on their certifications, Graham and Cornyn started to agitate for amnesty.
Loeffler and Perdue could help themselves by denouncing the visa expansions, the upcoming amnesty and the election fraud that put them into this position. But, of course, Rove and McConnell don't want to hear these things.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (puu6v)
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Hard to have dreams when someone keeps selling them out from under you.
Over, under, sideways, down aint just a yardbirds song
Hard to have dreams when someone keeps selling them out from under you.
Over, under, sideways, down aint just a yardbirds song
Posted by: Rage Stroked but getting the banned back together at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (PNmwn)
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"Yeah the discrimination against American workers is well known in the industry. The trick is to list requirements that no one can fill and then hire an import who also doesn't meet the impossible requirements."
I saw this in 1984. We (company name withheld whose initials are ITT Courier Terminal Systems) hire a complete boob. Used his particular experience to look for an American. The day he got his Permanent Residence, he was laid-off.
IBM hired him in Boca Raton. LOL. Good time to sell off IBM stock.
I saw this in 1984. We (company name withheld whose initials are ITT Courier Terminal Systems) hire a complete boob. Used his particular experience to look for an American. The day he got his Permanent Residence, he was laid-off.
IBM hired him in Boca Raton. LOL. Good time to sell off IBM stock.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (2BZBZ)
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Don't worry. Under a Biden administration, we'll be importing top technical people from China, Iran, and other countries. Hey, I hear even North Korea have folks very good with computers...
And the Venezuelans will be adding up our bills for us.
And the Venezuelans will be adding up our bills for us.
Posted by: t-bird at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (/2aWP)
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The short-termist economic illiteracy demonstrated by our elites is a lot of what Bastiat warned about. An economy is made of interdependent parts, if you focus on making certain groups rich while destroying other industries, you're chopping away the foundations of the groups that you're enriching as well(unless they translate assets to a foreign currency and flee in a sensible time frame). Zimbabwe is a good example.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Today's Communists wear $5k suits. Who knew?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (ilw10)
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this joke never gets old I tell ya
Do you guys know Mit Romney?
Well, I stole his bag of dicks and ate them all,
neener, neener!
Do you guys know Mit Romney?
Well, I stole his bag of dicks and ate them all,
neener, neener!
Posted by: Mike Lee at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (GIeIM)
Posted by: garrett at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (E4iZr)
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The Repub tech overlords are making them dance. The overlords want us deplorables to know who really runs the show.
Posted by: tbodie at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (Jk+3L)
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I know people, American and H-1B visa holders, who were recently gutted from a company off-shoring almost all of their staff. The irony is the visa holders have 6 weeks to find employment or they will be required to leave the country.
So the worthless RINOs permit endless numbers of additional H-1B visas to enter the country to make sure no American gets a job.
When the revolution comes I would not want to be a member of Congress in either party.
So the worthless RINOs permit endless numbers of additional H-1B visas to enter the country to make sure no American gets a job.
When the revolution comes I would not want to be a member of Congress in either party.
Posted by: WarEagle82 at December 04, 2020 02:16 PM (+Kpte)
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Don't worry. Under a Biden administration, we'll be importing top technical people from China, Iran, and other countries. Hey, I hear even North Korea have folks very good with computers...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (ynpvh)
__________
If you like their engineers, you're going to LOVE their organ harvesting butchers!
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (ynpvh)
__________
If you like their engineers, you're going to LOVE their organ harvesting butchers!
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (Yt5Im)
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We should vote for the two in Georgia. Depending on what happens after Jan.20, 2021 though....
I've been told this my entire adult life. So what changes after January 20? The Senate will be less important to hold in 2022? Or 2024?
I've been told this my entire adult life. So what changes after January 20? The Senate will be less important to hold in 2022? Or 2024?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (H5knJ)
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Remind me again, wasn't Mark Warner caught hip-deep in the Russia Hoax Scandal and the Republican Shit BURR covered his ass?
The same Burr who continued to Harangue Don Jr about the "Trump Tower meeting" even after Mueller was done with his fake investigation?
Remind me again, wasn't Mark Warner caught hip-deep in the Russia Hoax Scandal and the Republican Shit BURR covered his ass?
The same Burr who continued to Harangue Don Jr about the "Trump Tower meeting" even after Mueller was done with his fake investigation?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (6vHcr)
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25 Yeah the discrimination against American workers is well known in the industry. The trick is to list requirements that no one can fill and then hire an import who also doesn't meet the impossible requirements.
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Heh, us white guys have been dealing with systemic racism all our fucking lives cuz virtue.
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Heh, us white guys have been dealing with systemic racism all our fucking lives cuz virtue.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (ilw10)
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Mitch represents the US chamber of commerce. AKA crony capitalism.
Posted by: Fortune Cookie Editor at December 04, 2020 02:18 PM (FsgBK)
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This attack on American Tech workers started in about 2000.
I used to make a good living TEACHING network Engineering.
Our company could tie into Vocational Training, VA Retraining dollars, and all the various means of helping to finance paid for training.
We were delivering over 1 Million dollars in delivered Training a MONTH in the Denver Area.
Then two things changed. H1Bs, and you suddenly had to be an accredited college to tie into all those Training Dollars.
BOTH were changes done by Law, by REPUBLICANS.
Within a few years, I could not get a Job at Companies where I had TAUGHT their Network Engineers. Companies that had, at one time, specifically asked for me to train their people.
In 1996, the Average Accredited Network Engineer made $67,000. 24 years later? The average in 2020? $70,000 per year... after 24 years of inflation.
I used to make a good living TEACHING network Engineering.
Our company could tie into Vocational Training, VA Retraining dollars, and all the various means of helping to finance paid for training.
We were delivering over 1 Million dollars in delivered Training a MONTH in the Denver Area.
Then two things changed. H1Bs, and you suddenly had to be an accredited college to tie into all those Training Dollars.
BOTH were changes done by Law, by REPUBLICANS.
Within a few years, I could not get a Job at Companies where I had TAUGHT their Network Engineers. Companies that had, at one time, specifically asked for me to train their people.
In 1996, the Average Accredited Network Engineer made $67,000. 24 years later? The average in 2020? $70,000 per year... after 24 years of inflation.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:18 PM (d9rwJ)
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Perfect becomes the enemy of the good.
Yes, the GOP is full of corporate scum but nobody, and I mean nobody, not the Nazis, not the Stalinists, not Pol Pot..... Nobody is more corrupt or more loathsome than the dimocrrap scum party.
Nobody.
Those other murderers and genocidal lunatics? You could make a case for them, given enough beer and in the right mood. Hitler was facing a Germany out of hope and in dire need of -- Something. Same thing with Czarist Russia.
But dimocrap scum? The scummiest scum to even exist on the face of the Earth?
There's just no reason for them to be the way they are other than -- They're scum.
So yeah, the worst Republican is better than the best dimocrap. Always.
Perfect is the enemy of the good in Republican circles.
Yes, the GOP is full of corporate scum but nobody, and I mean nobody, not the Nazis, not the Stalinists, not Pol Pot..... Nobody is more corrupt or more loathsome than the dimocrrap scum party.
Nobody.
Those other murderers and genocidal lunatics? You could make a case for them, given enough beer and in the right mood. Hitler was facing a Germany out of hope and in dire need of -- Something. Same thing with Czarist Russia.
But dimocrap scum? The scummiest scum to even exist on the face of the Earth?
There's just no reason for them to be the way they are other than -- They're scum.
So yeah, the worst Republican is better than the best dimocrap. Always.
Perfect is the enemy of the good in Republican circles.
Posted by: Uncle Rick at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (48/MM)
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Cuz we and the Chinese can do math in our heads.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (2BZBZ)
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17 WE have no party.
They have voters, but not constituents.
Same as it ever was, I guess. We just were slow, so very slow to figure it out.
Vic is right. We have no party.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (z79tQ)
A political party should never be viewed more as a tool. Politicians are mostly hucksters. The question we have now, is this tool useful for what we want? We can only use it to makes things slightly slower, helping to boil the frog in that case.
They have voters, but not constituents.
Same as it ever was, I guess. We just were slow, so very slow to figure it out.
Vic is right. We have no party.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (z79tQ)
A political party should never be viewed more as a tool. Politicians are mostly hucksters. The question we have now, is this tool useful for what we want? We can only use it to makes things slightly slower, helping to boil the frog in that case.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (Zm+LZ)
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This is wage suppression.
By keeping the supply of labor artificially high versus a relatively inflexible demand, they devalue it.
By keeping the supply of labor artificially high versus a relatively inflexible demand, they devalue it.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (MBidn)
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I missed the GA suitcase ballot thread. There was a discussion about Scott Adams' explanation of the video.
I knew it was a matter of time before Adams' congenital Libtardedness reared its ugly head. He can't help it, it's in his blood.
I knew it was a matter of time before Adams' congenital Libtardedness reared its ugly head. He can't help it, it's in his blood.
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (DJFLF)
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Krmp & his Ratfucker SOS are obviouysly in on the steal
Crenshaw might also be
anyone who is sayung congrats Biden let's transition is
Crenshaw might also be
anyone who is sayung congrats Biden let's transition is
Posted by: preznit select vmom at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (nUhF0)
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President Trump could, I believe, by executive order declare Facebook and Twitter, et al, to be publishers. That would make them have to face a lot of lawsuits and legal action.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (KZzsI)
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My department got outsourced, my coworkers trained their replacements in India
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (GIeIM)
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Don't worry. Under a Biden administration, we'll be importing top
technical people from China, Iran, and other countries. Hey, I hear even
North Korea have folks very good with computers...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (ynpvh)
__________
If you like their engineers, you're going to LOVE their organ harvesting butchers!
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (Yt5Im)
Biden'll import their economics practices as well. How else can you make a country an accomodating placed for all the new hires? Make it like their former countries.
Don't worry. Under a Biden administration, we'll be importing top
technical people from China, Iran, and other countries. Hey, I hear even
North Korea have folks very good with computers...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (ynpvh)
__________
If you like their engineers, you're going to LOVE their organ harvesting butchers!
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (Yt5Im)
Biden'll import their economics practices as well. How else can you make a country an accomodating placed for all the new hires? Make it like their former countries.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (ynpvh)
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Is everyone psyched about voting in two more GOP Senators in Georgia?
They'll really look out for us, right?
ace, umm, I don't know if you heard, but questioning this makes you a priori a troll.
They'll really look out for us, right?
ace, umm, I don't know if you heard, but questioning this makes you a priori a troll.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (ZfRYq)
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This serves as a good reminder of what it's like for conservatives without Trump. Remember voting for McCain and Rombley?
Lord help us.
Lord help us.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (sWM8x)
53
The Republican majority in the House led its own Russia Hoax fake investigation for 2 years.
The Republican majority in the Senate led its own Russia Hoax fake investigation for 3 years.
The Republican majority in the Senate allowed the Fake Impeachment go to trial in the Senate just to embarrass President Trump.
The Republican majority in the House led its own Russia Hoax fake investigation for 2 years.
The Republican majority in the Senate led its own Russia Hoax fake investigation for 3 years.
The Republican majority in the Senate allowed the Fake Impeachment go to trial in the Senate just to embarrass President Trump.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (6vHcr)
54
We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies. Fuck this shit. Our system preys on the young for all the free shit and then expects them to form families and educate their children who are being sold out to the Cheap Labor Market. Fuck it.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (ilw10)
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I don't want Republicans to win because they are Republicans. I want the people who actually were elected to win the election.
Nobody really fought this last time in 2018 when the Democrats stole like 5 seats in the Senate. They have to fight, this time.
Nobody really fought this last time in 2018 when the Democrats stole like 5 seats in the Senate. They have to fight, this time.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (KZzsI)
56
Anyway...on topic.
How many of the GOPe uniparty were kicking up their heels at the news that the six swing states had stopped counting ballots the night of November 3?
How many of the GOPe uniparty were kicking up their heels at the news that the six swing states had stopped counting ballots the night of November 3?
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (DJFLF)
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Plot Twist: the DNC/RNC rigs elections to raise money off of in "runoffs". They are one big happy family. Think how many 10s of billions have ben scammed the last 20 years with rigged elections. maybe a trillion raising money all combined.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (R1LMN)
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Is everyone psyched about voting in two more GOP Senators in Georgia?
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We don't really need to since one of them is in on the election rigging.
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We don't really need to since one of them is in on the election rigging.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (kOpft)
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Here's the thing about H1B's -- we pretend that a computer science degree from India is the same as a similar degree from here.
Indian colleges are 3 years long, are very cheap, and are full of rote memorization and, well, notoriously corrupt. (Your dad bribes a teacher, all of a sudden you get an A).
Same with Indian doctors.
Or, my favorite -- lawyers. They get an LLB in india (a 3 year undergrad degree), come here for a quick LLM (one year masters degree), then are eligible to sit for the bar in some states (like NY.)
Hardly seems fair when the rest of us have to spent a shit ton of money doing a 4 year undergrad, then a 3 year professional doctorate before we can sit for the bar.
Indian colleges are 3 years long, are very cheap, and are full of rote memorization and, well, notoriously corrupt. (Your dad bribes a teacher, all of a sudden you get an A).
Same with Indian doctors.
Or, my favorite -- lawyers. They get an LLB in india (a 3 year undergrad degree), come here for a quick LLM (one year masters degree), then are eligible to sit for the bar in some states (like NY.)
Hardly seems fair when the rest of us have to spent a shit ton of money doing a 4 year undergrad, then a 3 year professional doctorate before we can sit for the bar.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (UPoLF)
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So...Ace,
Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?
Nobody is expecting the second coming of Barry Goldwater, but the Republicans will be marginally better than the Democrats.
Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?
Nobody is expecting the second coming of Barry Goldwater, but the Republicans will be marginally better than the Democrats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (xT2tT)
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better idea: cut the current number of H1B's by 90%
Posted by: x at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (0tE/i)
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Remind me again, wasn't Mark Warner caught hip-deep in the Russia Hoax Scandal and the Republican Shit BURR covered his ass?
The same Burr who continued to Harangue Don Jr about the "Trump Tower meeting" even after Mueller was done with his fake investigation?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (6vHcr)
The same Burr who got caught inside trading after briefed on the coming Covid epidemic. The same Burr who came into Congress and lawnmower salesman who now has a net worth north of 10 million. The same Burr...
Remind me again, wasn't Mark Warner caught hip-deep in the Russia Hoax Scandal and the Republican Shit BURR covered his ass?
The same Burr who continued to Harangue Don Jr about the "Trump Tower meeting" even after Mueller was done with his fake investigation?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (6vHcr)
The same Burr who got caught inside trading after briefed on the coming Covid epidemic. The same Burr who came into Congress and lawnmower salesman who now has a net worth north of 10 million. The same Burr...
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (puu6v)
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39 25 Yeah the discrimination against American workers is well known in the industry. The trick is to list requirements that no one can fill and then hire an import who also doesn't meet the impossible requirements.
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Heh, us white guys have been dealing with systemic racism all our fucking lives cuz virtue.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (ilw10)
My FAVORITE???? I didn't get a job because their help desk was in India, and as they wanted someone who could 'explain' things in their native language.
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Heh, us white guys have been dealing with systemic racism all our fucking lives cuz virtue.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (ilw10)
My FAVORITE???? I didn't get a job because their help desk was in India, and as they wanted someone who could 'explain' things in their native language.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (d9rwJ)
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We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies.
We're doing the opposite. We're paying taxes so that the federal government can promote not having babies.
We're doing the opposite. We're paying taxes so that the federal government can promote not having babies.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
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Oh dear I appear to have prolapsed my rectum again, will one of you chaps be a good sport and put it back in?
Oh dear I appear to have prolapsed my rectum again, will one of you chaps be a good sport and put it back in?
Posted by: Generic Concern Troll at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (QEh5D)
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The only problem with the GOP is the Tea Party and Trump... but mostly Trump. Now that the Big Fish is being forced out, we don't have to worry about fishes any more. Pretty much forever.
Posted by: GOP at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (HhXSr)
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>> This attack on American Tech workers started in about 2000.
Bush 2, ended up not being your friend
Bush 2, ended up not being your friend
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (GIeIM)
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A modest proposal: tax a 50% surcharge - not deductible against corporate income taxes - on the salary of any H1-B, with the money to go to training Americans. Just how badly does this company want/need an H1-B? Let's find out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (N8WbB)
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I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as brilliant as I used to think. How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling class members actively working as traitors against the interest of America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty, and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
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I love it when I get to deep six a vendor or sub for export compliance when they have a bunch of chicom visa IT guys. Sorry, I'll find an American vendor.
To boss, sure they're cheaper, and you're right its your call, just sign this letter making yourself the empowered official, I'm happy to.pass that crap off to you.
To boss, sure they're cheaper, and you're right its your call, just sign this letter making yourself the empowered official, I'm happy to.pass that crap off to you.
Posted by: Jean at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Xih1H)
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The trick is, you compare Dems to Pubbies, yeah you can say "which is worse, vote for the lesser evil". But when you see they're two sides of the same damn coin, the correct answer becomes "clean sweep".
Once you accept that, you can slip the false choice and find a better way forward.
Once you accept that, you can slip the false choice and find a better way forward.
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (OUMaO)
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47
Krmp his Ratfucker SOS are obviouysly in on the steal
Crenshaw might also be
anyone who is sayung congrats Biden let's transition is
I don't know about Crenshaw but the GA dynamic duo are dirty as Duane Allmann's overused hash pipe.
Krmp his Ratfucker SOS are obviouysly in on the steal
Crenshaw might also be
anyone who is sayung congrats Biden let's transition is
I don't know about Crenshaw but the GA dynamic duo are dirty as Duane Allmann's overused hash pipe.
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (DJFLF)
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60 So...Ace,
Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?
Nobody is expecting the second coming of Barry Goldwater, but the Republicans will be marginally better than the Democrats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (xT2tT)
We don't actually disagree on that point. Marginally better equates to slowing them down though, war-gamed out, a few years at most. Is that our best course of action?
Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?
Nobody is expecting the second coming of Barry Goldwater, but the Republicans will be marginally better than the Democrats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (xT2tT)
We don't actually disagree on that point. Marginally better equates to slowing them down though, war-gamed out, a few years at most. Is that our best course of action?
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Heh, us white guys have been dealing with systemic racism all our fucking lives
I remember well having to take a test to get a job at Oregon State. I learned from the people who give the test that if you are a woman or a minority, you get bonus points added to your score right off the top.
But that isn't sexist or racist against white men or anything.
I remember well having to take a test to get a job at Oregon State. I learned from the people who give the test that if you are a woman or a minority, you get bonus points added to your score right off the top.
But that isn't sexist or racist against white men or anything.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: 1%er at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (Y274z)
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We're doing the opposite. We're paying taxes so that the federal government can promote not having babies.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
Except for the FSA
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
Except for the FSA
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (Ksrv6)
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This is wage suppression.
By keeping the supply of labor artificially high versus a relatively inflexible demand, they devalue it.
Yes. It's not just about hiring the cheap people, it's bringing in people to undercut going wages, making everyone have to work for less.
Trump had changed that for the first time in generations.
By keeping the supply of labor artificially high versus a relatively inflexible demand, they devalue it.
Yes. It's not just about hiring the cheap people, it's bringing in people to undercut going wages, making everyone have to work for less.
Trump had changed that for the first time in generations.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (oVJmc)
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If Trump steps down he has four years to create the American Party. Its the only way to unfuck this buttfuckery.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (ilw10)
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I live in Maskachusetts. Voting for the GOP here is like kissing your chainsmoking, Ben-Gay and Jean Nate-stinking maiden aunt at Christmas: you do it, but your heart's not in it and you're never going to be happy about it anyway.
So I fully endorse voting Democrat in Georgia. And yes, I know all the arguments about how a GOP "cubed" the worst of Barky's excesses and confirmed judges and yada yada yada -
But look at what has happened since the election: to nearly a man, none of these nickelfucking traitors has stood behind President Trump and supported him. Hardly a one has come out and full-throatedly condemned the Democrats for tossing a grenade into the electoral system. Instead, they cower, make whimpering noises, complain about "death threats" and, as soon as they are able, screw over the 70+ million of us who voted for Trump by supporting this unamerican travesty.
Sorry. I am no longer convinced that the GOP is in anyway a bulkhead against Democrats. If we must have panopticon fascism, then let the Dems do it. Now. Give it to people good and hard, cold and unfiltered.
Don't vote for the GOP so that the fascism comes a few years later.
So I fully endorse voting Democrat in Georgia. And yes, I know all the arguments about how a GOP "cubed" the worst of Barky's excesses and confirmed judges and yada yada yada -
But look at what has happened since the election: to nearly a man, none of these nickelfucking traitors has stood behind President Trump and supported him. Hardly a one has come out and full-throatedly condemned the Democrats for tossing a grenade into the electoral system. Instead, they cower, make whimpering noises, complain about "death threats" and, as soon as they are able, screw over the 70+ million of us who voted for Trump by supporting this unamerican travesty.
Sorry. I am no longer convinced that the GOP is in anyway a bulkhead against Democrats. If we must have panopticon fascism, then let the Dems do it. Now. Give it to people good and hard, cold and unfiltered.
Don't vote for the GOP so that the fascism comes a few years later.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (2JVJo)
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (RU4sa)
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38
Remind me again, wasn't Mark Warner caught hip-deep in the Russia Hoax Scandal and the Republican Shit BURR covered his ass?
The same Burr who continued to Harangue Don Jr about the "Trump Tower meeting" even after Mueller was done with his fake investigation?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (6vHcr)
Yep.
Remind me again, wasn't Mark Warner caught hip-deep in the Russia Hoax Scandal and the Republican Shit BURR covered his ass?
The same Burr who continued to Harangue Don Jr about the "Trump Tower meeting" even after Mueller was done with his fake investigation?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:17 PM (6vHcr)
Yep.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (ZfRYq)
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>My department got outsourced, my coworkers trained their replacements in India
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (GIeIM)
Ah yes, I've lived that, and got to see my coworkers be forced to train their Chinese replacements if they wanted to get a severance check. I didn't get cut during that round due to the stuff I was working on being under ITAR regs (and thus having to stay in the US), but bailed out shortly thereafter anyway.
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (GIeIM)
Ah yes, I've lived that, and got to see my coworkers be forced to train their Chinese replacements if they wanted to get a severance check. I didn't get cut during that round due to the stuff I was working on being under ITAR regs (and thus having to stay in the US), but bailed out shortly thereafter anyway.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (L106N)
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64 "We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies."
We're doing the opposite. We're paying taxes so that the federal government can promote not having babies.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
This insane stupid system collapses regardless of what we do, but we want it to collapse sooner, ideally within our lifetimes.
We're doing the opposite. We're paying taxes so that the federal government can promote not having babies.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
This insane stupid system collapses regardless of what we do, but we want it to collapse sooner, ideally within our lifetimes.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Who is this Tucker person? Was he the news clown that stabbed Sidney Powell in the back while she was trying to save America?
Posted by: Wade Hampton at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (Su9Le)
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69
I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as brilliant as I used to think.
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
They expected We the People to prevent that...
I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as brilliant as I used to think.
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
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@37 bear with asymmetrical balls-Unfortunately nobody actually reads my comments that I have posted previously over the years.
IDGAF about these two from Georgia other than to beat the Democrats right now with this current fraud.
Beyond January 20, 2021 if this is stolen from us every fucking Republican should be lit on fire or swinging from a tree.
Don't read the wrong thing into my previous comment you commented on.
IDGAF about these two from Georgia other than to beat the Democrats right now with this current fraud.
Beyond January 20, 2021 if this is stolen from us every fucking Republican should be lit on fire or swinging from a tree.
Don't read the wrong thing into my previous comment you commented on.
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (0jZnq)
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Uniparty gonna uniparty
politics is so demoralizing lately and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel
politics is so demoralizing lately and I don't see any light at the end of the tunnel
Posted by: brak at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (cG+eD)
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How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling class members actively working as traitors against the interest of America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty, and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: mr tmz at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (m/Gc2)
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Also, the real reason companies like Google want Indian programmers is not because they are better, or work harder, or whatever.
It's because with an h1b visa, you're tied to the company that sponsored you. Sure, you can quit, but you have something like six weeks to find a new job, and that company has to agree to sponsor you.
With that looming over your head, you're probably not going to quit. Google sees the programmers are replaceable, and swaps them out regularly. And they know they won't bring their trade secrets or knowledge to a Silicon Valley competitor.
Oh, and won't complain about shitty pay and shitty hours and all the rest that normal people wouldn't put up with.
Because when the guys get back to India, they're relatively rich (by Indian standards), and there is a huge prestige in India in having worked in America, so girls' parents and lining up to set you up with their daughters.
It's a neat little package, works out for everyone... well, except American citizens.
It's because with an h1b visa, you're tied to the company that sponsored you. Sure, you can quit, but you have something like six weeks to find a new job, and that company has to agree to sponsor you.
With that looming over your head, you're probably not going to quit. Google sees the programmers are replaceable, and swaps them out regularly. And they know they won't bring their trade secrets or knowledge to a Silicon Valley competitor.
Oh, and won't complain about shitty pay and shitty hours and all the rest that normal people wouldn't put up with.
Because when the guys get back to India, they're relatively rich (by Indian standards), and there is a huge prestige in India in having worked in America, so girls' parents and lining up to set you up with their daughters.
It's a neat little package, works out for everyone... well, except American citizens.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (UPoLF)
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Go to any tech company 's website and look up jobs. They'll list a ton of qualifications with a starting salary of $25K. Well, couldn't find anyone here who wants the job. Whatcha Gonna Do?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (kTF2Z)
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An interesting consequence - and one that could be easily fixed - to the H1B system is how it over time results in salary compression and H1B preference in hiring. This is because of the work requirement for residency.
When an H1B first comes over (before, anyway - this has changed over the past decade), he is going to paid well and akin to his American peers of equivalent experience. There might be a discount (more often there is, now), but there might not. All is well until a company has a layoff. The layoffs will typically hit non-H1Bs more aggressively, because the H1B has a work requirement.
Turn the crank a few times, and the H1Bs get hit, too - and then the wage compression comes into the picture. If they are severed from their employment, H1Bs have six months to get a new job or they have to go home. They don't want to go home and so when push comes to shove, they'll accept a job that isn't ideal or is lower-paid instead of holding out for a better opportunity. Now his pay scale is compressed. Do this several thousand times, and the H1B system will drag down salaries across the board while the cycle repeats.
This would be easy to fix. H1Bs are supposed to be specialist workers with distinct skills. Specialists with distinct skills get paid. If the rule were that your H1Bs have to earn, say, 115% of the median salary for that job title/role in your organization, exclusive of other H1Bs, then this problem would go away. If they are really worth their visa, they're worth a 15% premium on your average worker. If they aren't worth that premium, they shouldn't have the visa in the first place.
When an H1B first comes over (before, anyway - this has changed over the past decade), he is going to paid well and akin to his American peers of equivalent experience. There might be a discount (more often there is, now), but there might not. All is well until a company has a layoff. The layoffs will typically hit non-H1Bs more aggressively, because the H1B has a work requirement.
Turn the crank a few times, and the H1Bs get hit, too - and then the wage compression comes into the picture. If they are severed from their employment, H1Bs have six months to get a new job or they have to go home. They don't want to go home and so when push comes to shove, they'll accept a job that isn't ideal or is lower-paid instead of holding out for a better opportunity. Now his pay scale is compressed. Do this several thousand times, and the H1B system will drag down salaries across the board while the cycle repeats.
This would be easy to fix. H1Bs are supposed to be specialist workers with distinct skills. Specialists with distinct skills get paid. If the rule were that your H1Bs have to earn, say, 115% of the median salary for that job title/role in your organization, exclusive of other H1Bs, then this problem would go away. If they are really worth their visa, they're worth a 15% premium on your average worker. If they aren't worth that premium, they shouldn't have the visa in the first place.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (hYcqw)
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74 Heh, us white guys have been dealing with systemic racism all our fucking lives
I remember well having to take a test to get a job at Oregon State. I learned from the people who give the test that if you are a woman or a minority, you get bonus points added to your score right off the top.
But that isn't sexist or racist against white men or anything.
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In the Marines you only compete within your racial group for promotion. Its pretty easy to make rank as a black Marine officer.
I remember well having to take a test to get a job at Oregon State. I learned from the people who give the test that if you are a woman or a minority, you get bonus points added to your score right off the top.
But that isn't sexist or racist against white men or anything.
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In the Marines you only compete within your racial group for promotion. Its pretty easy to make rank as a black Marine officer.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (ilw10)
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We're paying taxes so that the federal government can promote not having babies.
Did I wash under my tits? How do I know?
Go to: didiwashundermytits.gov
Did I wash under my tits? How do I know?
Go to: didiwashundermytits.gov
Posted by: Rage Stroked but getting the banned back together at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (I5c0M)
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also see Geoff Duncan, GA Lt Gov.
The fate of the Republic hinges on what is being discovered in his state, and he is posting on twitter about...
"what do I feed my kids for breakfast, herr derr hurr durr"
The fate of the Republic hinges on what is being discovered in his state, and he is posting on twitter about...
"what do I feed my kids for breakfast, herr derr hurr durr"
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (DJFLF)
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We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies.
well the welfare state has been subsidizing that for decades now, just at the wrong end of the productivity spectrum, as foretold by Idiocracy
well the welfare state has been subsidizing that for decades now, just at the wrong end of the productivity spectrum, as foretold by Idiocracy
Posted by: brak at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (cG+eD)
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JROD: Fair enough.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (H5knJ)
98
Kallisto on American Thinker today they had a explanation of the video and stills of the video, its the short version but start there.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (9sWOw)
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Loeffler and Perdue could help themselves by denouncing the visa expansions, the upcoming amnesty and the election fraud that put them into this position. But, of course, Rove and McConnell don't want to hear these things.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (puu6v)
Here's the deal.. they are both still senators... if they didn't want this all they had to do is object to unanimous consent. They didn't... neither did.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (puu6v)
Here's the deal.. they are both still senators... if they didn't want this all they had to do is object to unanimous consent. They didn't... neither did.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (+2xjH)
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Then two things changed. H1Bs, and you suddenly had to be an accredited college to tie into all those Training Dollars.
The accredited ones are those teaching tranny engineering and white hate.
Then two things changed. H1Bs, and you suddenly had to be an accredited college to tie into all those Training Dollars.
The accredited ones are those teaching tranny engineering and white hate.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (63Dwl)
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All this discussion about to vote or not to vote for the Rs in GA is completely moot if the D's get away with this steal of the Presidency. It will not matter who GA actually votes for, just who counts the votes. They plan on using Dominion and have already sent out almost a million absentee ballots. It is a complete joke.
Posted by: DJ at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (O3/K+)
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Ahh, the Justice Department is suing Facebook for discriminating against American Workers.
Fine.
They should sue the United States Senate for the same crime.
Fine.
They should sue the United States Senate for the same crime.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (ZR7kf)
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"We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies."
Shit, we do. It's called welfare. Section 8 housing. Etc. You are subsidizing baby-making. Bigly.
Shit, we do. It's called welfare. Section 8 housing. Etc. You are subsidizing baby-making. Bigly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (H5knJ)
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88 "How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling class members actively working as traitors against the interest of America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty, and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?"
They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (KZzsI)
No civilization lasts forever. Hell we had a heck of a run, even with that ugly period under Wilson and FDR.
They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (KZzsI)
No civilization lasts forever. Hell we had a heck of a run, even with that ugly period under Wilson and FDR.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (Zm+LZ)
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They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor
We all know the Adams quote. We also know he was right. Why anyone thinks some new law or system will change things with those facts in play is beyond me.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor
We all know the Adams quote. We also know he was right. Why anyone thinks some new law or system will change things with those facts in play is beyond me.
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 02:26 PM (OUMaO)
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78
If Trump steps down he has four years to create the American Party. Its the only way to unfuck this buttfuckery.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (ilw10)
What's going to stop the American Party from having its winner stolen in four years?
No, Trump has to end this now..
If Trump steps down he has four years to create the American Party. Its the only way to unfuck this buttfuckery.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (ilw10)
What's going to stop the American Party from having its winner stolen in four years?
No, Trump has to end this now..
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:26 PM (DJFLF)
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Did I wash under my tits? How do I know?
Go to: didiwashundermytits.gov
Posted by: Rage Stroked but getting the banned back together at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (I5c0M)
Fromundacheese.gov
Go to: didiwashundermytits.gov
Posted by: Rage Stroked but getting the banned back together at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (I5c0M)
Fromundacheese.gov
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 04, 2020 02:26 PM (zI9dG)
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Welp, time to redo the lights in the trees.
The concept didn't match the end result.
Ah well, so it goes.
The concept didn't match the end result.
Ah well, so it goes.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing at December 04, 2020 02:26 PM (WEBkv)
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Its good to remind people that our Revolution was against the world's largest globalist enterprise. Now, we've become what we revolted against. Weird ain't it?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:26 PM (ilw10)
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Yes. It's not just about hiring the cheap people, it's bringing in people to undercut going wages, making everyone have to work for less.
Trump had changed that for the first time in generations.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (oVJmc)
Fed Judge in Calif stopped the Trump changes last week.
Because they did not listen ENOUGH to the companies who were gaming the system.
And yes, I'm serious, get through the Legaleze and that was the reason.
Trump had changed that for the first time in generations.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (oVJmc)
Fed Judge in Calif stopped the Trump changes last week.
Because they did not listen ENOUGH to the companies who were gaming the system.
And yes, I'm serious, get through the Legaleze and that was the reason.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:26 PM (d9rwJ)
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78 If Trump steps down he has four years to create the American Party. Its the only way to unfuck this buttfuckery.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (ilw10)
I'd rather he created an armed national militia. Elections are now never to be trusted as honest.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (ilw10)
I'd rather he created an armed national militia. Elections are now never to be trusted as honest.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (s2VJv)
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13 They could just relocate all of Facebook to India, couldn't they?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (oVJmc)
Start with Zuckerberg. Please.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (oVJmc)
Start with Zuckerberg. Please.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (N8WbB)
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Could someone explain the "glowies" thing from last thread?
Posted by: irright at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (SchQD)
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15 Are we facing one of the highest unemployment levels ever?
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
A short time later, Tucker said he'd made a mistake. He said the current unemployment level is not among the highest ever; the total number of unemployed persons is.
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
A short time later, Tucker said he'd made a mistake. He said the current unemployment level is not among the highest ever; the total number of unemployed persons is.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (AMIL/)
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Is this news?
#Arizona's Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County Dominion election software and equipment.
#Arizona's Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County Dominion election software and equipment.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (CZm2G)
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https://www.americanthinker.com/does a surveillance video prove georgia election fraud
https://tinyurl.com/yxtzlt5z
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 04:29 AM (
https://tinyurl.com/yxtzlt5z
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 04:29 AM (
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (9sWOw)
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How many of the GOPe uniparty were kicking up their heels at the news that the six swing states had stopped counting ballots the night of November 3?
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (DJFLF)
That's when the corks started popping...'Its happening!'
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (DJFLF)
That's when the corks started popping...'Its happening!'
Posted by: A dude in MI at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (/6GbT)
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Look, we only have 53 senate seats. There's only so much we can do. But if you send us $100 today, we will fight to win 73 senate seats. And then we promise to maybe start thinking about helping American workers.
Your truly,
GOP
Your truly,
GOP
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (22mNy)
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84 Who is this Tucker person? Was he the news clown that stabbed Sidney Powell in the back while she was trying to save America?
Posted by: Wade Hampton at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (Su9Le)
One and the same. He was the last reason I watched Fox any at all, and that ended that.
Posted by: Wade Hampton at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (Su9Le)
One and the same. He was the last reason I watched Fox any at all, and that ended that.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (puu6v)
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68 A modest proposal: tax a 50% surcharge - not deductible against corporate income taxes - on the salary of any H1-B, with the money to go to training Americans. Just how badly does this company want/need an H1-B? Let's find out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (N8WbB)
They don't need them at all. It's absurd that we allow that program to exist.
If there really is a "shortage" in programmers, that would mean pay should be rising, and there would be a greater incentive for every college grad making $50k a year in the country to do one of those online 6-month programming boot camps and get guaranteed a job at google when they graduate.
That is not the reality on the ground.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (N8WbB)
They don't need them at all. It's absurd that we allow that program to exist.
If there really is a "shortage" in programmers, that would mean pay should be rising, and there would be a greater incentive for every college grad making $50k a year in the country to do one of those online 6-month programming boot camps and get guaranteed a job at google when they graduate.
That is not the reality on the ground.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (UPoLF)
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98
Kallisto on American Thinker today they had a explanation of the video
and stills of the video, its the short version but start there.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (9sWOw)
Hi Skip,
I'm not really getting granular on these issue because so much is breaking so quickly.
I just know that JBWNBPOTUS.
but if I get a quick minute I will check that out.
Kallisto on American Thinker today they had a explanation of the video
and stills of the video, its the short version but start there.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (9sWOw)
Hi Skip,
I'm not really getting granular on these issue because so much is breaking so quickly.
I just know that JBWNBPOTUS.
but if I get a quick minute I will check that out.
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (DJFLF)
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What I don't get is why they did this just now. I mean, I would assume they would want 2 more GOPe, reliable senators for later, to help them screw us. But they don't seem capable of even that much self-interest.
Also, why didn't the usually good ones, (Hawley, Cotton, Cruz) do anything? Even if they aren't really on our side, they are surely smart enough to keep up appearances. That puzzles me.
Also, why didn't the usually good ones, (Hawley, Cotton, Cruz) do anything? Even if they aren't really on our side, they are surely smart enough to keep up appearances. That puzzles me.
Posted by: Eeyore at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (7X3UV)
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103 "We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies."
Shit, we do. It's called welfare. Section 8 housing. Etc. You are subsidizing baby-making. Bigly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (H5knJ)
And yet, Planned Parenthood...
Shit, we do. It's called welfare. Section 8 housing. Etc. You are subsidizing baby-making. Bigly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (H5knJ)
And yet, Planned Parenthood...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (s2VJv)
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"Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?"
I've come around to being resigned to voting for the squish as long as Trump is still for it. It may be foolish but what have I got to lose?
"Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?"
I've come around to being resigned to voting for the squish as long as Trump is still for it. It may be foolish but what have I got to lose?
Posted by: f'd at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (+y8uL)
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Not to mention that H1B1 visas are, effectively, indentured servitude but without the bit where you can work the debt off and be free at the end.
Did Congress at least repeal the part about how the company (isn't like four clearinghouses that handle all of these) that requests the H1B1 must certify that there are no US citizens who will take the jobs?
Because that part is just insulting what with how everyone lies about it.
Did Congress at least repeal the part about how the company (isn't like four clearinghouses that handle all of these) that requests the H1B1 must certify that there are no US citizens who will take the jobs?
Because that part is just insulting what with how everyone lies about it.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (GbPPJ)
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In the Marines you only compete within your racial group for promotion. Its pretty easy to make rank as a black Marine officer.
When did that start? I don't recall it being that way when I was in the corps.
When did that start? I don't recall it being that way when I was in the corps.
Posted by: Resist_we_Much at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (sd88P)
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Speaking of bowing to the Asian "marketplace," there was a discussion in the back end of the last thread about Dinsey and other studios desperately needing theaters to open.
So... Mulan, it was a hit? I guess that makes sense. It's got all the right formula going for it, with it being Woke, and nostalgia being what it is, parents can park their little ones in front of the teevee, even though this one was not really a kids movie.
I don't see how any original work gets through now. There's no way for this to go on much longer.
So I'm expecting Washington to jump to a rescue of Hollowwood as soon as it's politically feasible for them. After all, Hollowwood supplies many of the kids those Washington types like to "entertain" on occasion.
Gotta return the favor somehow.
So... Mulan, it was a hit? I guess that makes sense. It's got all the right formula going for it, with it being Woke, and nostalgia being what it is, parents can park their little ones in front of the teevee, even though this one was not really a kids movie.
I don't see how any original work gets through now. There's no way for this to go on much longer.
So I'm expecting Washington to jump to a rescue of Hollowwood as soon as it's politically feasible for them. After all, Hollowwood supplies many of the kids those Washington types like to "entertain" on occasion.
Gotta return the favor somehow.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (hku12)
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67 >> This attack on American Tech workers started in about 2000.
Bush 2, ended up not being your friend
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (GIeIM)
Can confirm.
I was working at MSFT and watched it happen real-time.
Bush 2, ended up not being your friend
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (GIeIM)
Can confirm.
I was working at MSFT and watched it happen real-time.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (d1uFV)
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I know a lot of these people, both the Americans who used to have those jobs and the Indians who get those jobs. Watch Halt and Catch Fire to get a sense of how engineers are treated.
Posted by: iandeal at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (vgGyZ)
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This would be easy to fix. H1Bs are supposed to be specialist
workers with distinct skills. Specialists with distinct skills get paid.
If the rule were that your H1Bs have to earn, say, 115% of the median
salary for that job title/role in your organization, exclusive of other
H1Bs, then this problem would go away. If they are really worth their
visa, they're worth a 15% premium on your average worker. If they aren't
worth that premium, they shouldn't have the visa in the first place.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (hYcqw)
This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job, because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it were true.
This would be easy to fix. H1Bs are supposed to be specialist
workers with distinct skills. Specialists with distinct skills get paid.
If the rule were that your H1Bs have to earn, say, 115% of the median
salary for that job title/role in your organization, exclusive of other
H1Bs, then this problem would go away. If they are really worth their
visa, they're worth a 15% premium on your average worker. If they aren't
worth that premium, they shouldn't have the visa in the first place.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:24 PM (hYcqw)
This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job, because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it were true.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
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I don't know if you heard, but questioning this makes you a priori a troll.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (ZfRYq)
One of the least endearing features of some of the commenters is their lazy mischaracterization of others' arguments.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM (ZfRYq)
One of the least endearing features of some of the commenters is their lazy mischaracterization of others' arguments.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (xT2tT)
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You've lost the plot here. Just like Hollywood doesn't deserve conservative pro-business support, young tech workers don't deserve conservative labor protectionism either.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
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103 "We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies."
Shit, we do. It's called welfare. Section 8 housing. Etc. You are subsidizing baby-making. Bigly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (H5knJ)
Yeah, we do, but at the wrong end of the bell curve.
Shit, we do. It's called welfare. Section 8 housing. Etc. You are subsidizing baby-making. Bigly.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (H5knJ)
Yeah, we do, but at the wrong end of the bell curve.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (N8WbB)
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Heard at the Pennsylvania Convention center is here the vote counting in Philadelphia was, I know they have surveillance cameras, some higher authority needs to get those of the same Georgia stopping.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (9sWOw)
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115 Is this news?
#Arizona's Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County Dominion election software and equipment.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (CZm2G)
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Who are these "leaders"? Like the speaker of the state house? Senate majority leader? I'd take it seriously if it were them. But it's probably some backbencher who will be ignored by the GOPe, McCain loving scum who run the AZ GOP./
#Arizona's Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County Dominion election software and equipment.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (CZm2G)
___
Who are these "leaders"? Like the speaker of the state house? Senate majority leader? I'd take it seriously if it were them. But it's probably some backbencher who will be ignored by the GOPe, McCain loving scum who run the AZ GOP./
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (22mNy)
Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (AHq56)
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Unless the studios are longing for that sweet, sweet popcorn and soda money, it is probably more profitable to stream.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (946rW)
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I'm sure they'd rather sell 10 tickets to individuals than one ticket to a household, as well.
And the reason the theaters rely so much on concessions is because studios already take about 60% of ticket sales. If studios get 100% of ticket sales and concessions?
That's money. That's real coke money.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (946rW)
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I'm sure they'd rather sell 10 tickets to individuals than one ticket to a household, as well.
And the reason the theaters rely so much on concessions is because studios already take about 60% of ticket sales. If studios get 100% of ticket sales and concessions?
That's money. That's real coke money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (6vHcr)
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This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job, because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it were true.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
++++++
Yes. If any of the "wage gaps" (sexual, racial, religious, whatever) existed, there would be *no one* but the group in question working. If I can get a woman to work for me for a 25% discount (all other things being equal), do you think I'd be in the business of hiring men?
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
++++++
Yes. If any of the "wage gaps" (sexual, racial, religious, whatever) existed, there would be *no one* but the group in question working. If I can get a woman to work for me for a 25% discount (all other things being equal), do you think I'd be in the business of hiring men?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (hYcqw)
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I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as brilliant as I used to think.
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
+++++++
Jefferson never would have imagined we'd survive 250 years with uninterrupted government. If you read the Declaration of Independence, it's pretty clear he thought governments should rise and fall with regularity, sometimes peacefully and sometimes not.
The idea of a world-dominating American empire that rules for 250 years uninterrupted, suppresses multiple states that sought to secede, expands the power of the Presidency to a defacto king, and regularly ignores the will of the courts and, now, the votes of the people...he'd probably throw up to see what's become of us.
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
+++++++
Jefferson never would have imagined we'd survive 250 years with uninterrupted government. If you read the Declaration of Independence, it's pretty clear he thought governments should rise and fall with regularity, sometimes peacefully and sometimes not.
The idea of a world-dominating American empire that rules for 250 years uninterrupted, suppresses multiple states that sought to secede, expands the power of the Presidency to a defacto king, and regularly ignores the will of the courts and, now, the votes of the people...he'd probably throw up to see what's become of us.
Posted by: Shenanigans at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (ZR7kf)
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Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
The problem is that they don't have any familiarity with American tradition, specifically things like free speech, etc.
Also, much like the Chinese, the Indians come from a profoundly corrupt culture, although ours is rapidly catching up with it.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
The problem is that they don't have any familiarity with American tradition, specifically things like free speech, etc.
Also, much like the Chinese, the Indians come from a profoundly corrupt culture, although ours is rapidly catching up with it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (N8WbB)
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Democrats have asked that the Trump ballots in Arizona which were recorded for Biden be sealed.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
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99 Loeffler and Perdue could help themselves by denouncing the visa expansions, the upcoming amnesty and the election fraud that put them into this position. But, of course, Rove and McConnell don't want to hear these things.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (puu6v)
Here's the deal.. they are both still senators... if they didn't want this all they had to do is object to unanimous consent. They didn't... neither did.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (+2xjH)
Good point, but don't you have to be on the floor to object to a consent motion? I think that's the case. But if it isn't, yeah, no tears, not that there were any.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (puu6v)
Here's the deal.. they are both still senators... if they didn't want this all they had to do is object to unanimous consent. They didn't... neither did.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at December 04, 2020 02:25 PM (+2xjH)
Good point, but don't you have to be on the floor to object to a consent motion? I think that's the case. But if it isn't, yeah, no tears, not that there were any.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (puu6v)
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Georgia Patriots, America needs you! We need huge, ANGRY MOBS following SOS Raffensperger and Gabriel Sterling everywhere they go! We need antifa tactics used against these motherfuckers! They need to be doxxed. They need to have fireworks thrown at their houses at 2:00 a.m. They need the brick-through-the-window treatment. They need to have people screaming obscenities at them through bullhorns 24 hours a day!
WHAT will it take to overturn this fraud? WHATEVER it takes, do it!
WHAT will it take to overturn this fraud? WHATEVER it takes, do it!
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (VDbGO)
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Are we facing one of the highest unemployment levels ever?
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
A short time later, Tucker said he'd made a mistake. He said the current unemployment level is not among the highest ever; the total number of unemployed persons is.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (AMIL/)
Thanks, I guess that makes more sense.
I know the data around unemployment is largely nonsense anyway. Can be manipulated to say whatever they need it to say.
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
A short time later, Tucker said he'd made a mistake. He said the current unemployment level is not among the highest ever; the total number of unemployed persons is.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (AMIL/)
Thanks, I guess that makes more sense.
I know the data around unemployment is largely nonsense anyway. Can be manipulated to say whatever they need it to say.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (hku12)
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"We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies."
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My nipples explode with delight.
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"We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies."
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My nipples explode with delight.
Posted by: irright at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (SchQD)
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113
Could someone explain the "glowies" thing from last thread?
Posted by: irright at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (SchQD)
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glowie
Could someone explain the "glowies" thing from last thread?
Posted by: irright at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (SchQD)
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Glowie
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (ynpvh)
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exclusive of other H1Bs, then this problem would go away. If they are really worth their visa, they're worth a 15% premium on your average worker. If they aren't worth that premium, they shouldn't have the visa in the first place.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Ding ding ding.
I'm guessing the powers that be don't want that.
The H2A program for temporary Ag workers you have to pay more than you do for American workers. You also have to feed, house and transport the H2A workers. It's more expensive and a lot more paper work.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Ding ding ding.
I'm guessing the powers that be don't want that.
The H2A program for temporary Ag workers you have to pay more than you do for American workers. You also have to feed, house and transport the H2A workers. It's more expensive and a lot more paper work.
Posted by: CaliGirl at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (7bcfy)
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69
I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as brilliant as I used to think.
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
They, like everyone else, knew that such a condition isn't part of the normal political process and couldn't really be 'planned' for.
Also, looks like our lil troll ran away with his tail betwixt his thighs. Serves him right.
69
I guess the Founding Fathers weren't as brilliant as I used to think.
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
/
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:21 PM (Yt5Im)
They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
They, like everyone else, knew that such a condition isn't part of the normal political process and couldn't really be 'planned' for.
Also, looks like our lil troll ran away with his tail betwixt his thighs. Serves him right.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Eg9+v)
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How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
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Well regulated militia, something something
class members actively working as traitors against the interest of
America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty,
and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
---
Well regulated militia, something something
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (kOpft)
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They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
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Indeed, jim. As well as the great quote from John Adams: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
___________
Indeed, jim. As well as the great quote from John Adams: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (Yt5Im)
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This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job, because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it were true.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
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I always say this when someone brings up the 77 cents bullshit. If women truly only get 77% of what an equally qualified man gets, then no man would ever find employment.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
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I always say this when someone brings up the 77 cents bullshit. If women truly only get 77% of what an equally qualified man gets, then no man would ever find employment.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (22mNy)
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Uh Sam we aint there yet.
Posted by: f'd at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (+y8uL)
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We're all out of "next elections."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (6vHcr)
correct
We're all out of "next elections."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (6vHcr)
correct
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (DJFLF)
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PS, yes, I know: The boycott. I looked for a non-Fox video of the clip but apparently, now that Fox has joined the left, YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
Ace - have you tried looking on Rumble?
https://rumble.com/search/
video?q=Tucker%20carlson
Ace - have you tried looking on Rumble?
https://rumble.com/search/
video?q=Tucker%20carlson
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (VcFUs)
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We're all out of "next elections."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (6vHcr)
Pretty much.
Either this fraud is rejected or we have an Oligarchy for however long we last as a nation.
We're all out of "next elections."
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (6vHcr)
Pretty much.
Either this fraud is rejected or we have an Oligarchy for however long we last as a nation.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (d1uFV)
Posted by: Generic Concern Troll at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (QEh5D)
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omfg, lol.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (BvLWD)
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155 PS, yes, I know: The boycott. I looked for a non-Fox video of the clip but apparently, now that Fox has joined the left, YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
Ace - have you tried looking on Rumble?
https://rumble.com/search/
video?q=Tucker%20carlson
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (VcFUs)
Two words: Money Plane
Ace - have you tried looking on Rumble?
https://rumble.com/search/
video?q=Tucker%20carlson
Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (VcFUs)
Two words: Money Plane
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (d1uFV)
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Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
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Unemployment rate in November,according to the U.S. Department of labor was 6.7%. I remember when that was considered low.
https://tinyurl.com/hu87hxo
https://tinyurl.com/hu87hxo
Posted by: Javems at December 04, 2020 02:32 PM (8SSHh)
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A short time later, Tucker said he'd made a mistake. He said the current unemployment level is not among the highest ever; the total number of unemployed persons is.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (AMIL/)
And he is correct.
Unemployment numbers come from those getting unemployment.
Which lasts 6 months in many places.
And they shut down the economy??? More than 6 months ago.
My Son, who was a Manager at an upscale Denver Restaurant, is now driving for Grub Hub.
Luckily, I can help him with rent.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (AMIL/)
And he is correct.
Unemployment numbers come from those getting unemployment.
Which lasts 6 months in many places.
And they shut down the economy??? More than 6 months ago.
My Son, who was a Manager at an upscale Denver Restaurant, is now driving for Grub Hub.
Luckily, I can help him with rent.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:32 PM (d9rwJ)
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So here's the thing with H1Bs.....
Generally speaking Facebook isn't hiring them to do the important stuff. That's the woke 25 year olds. H1Bs are in the mundane, back end stuff. Those are still decent paid jobs and plenty of Americans want them.
But my point is the young hip techies of Silicon Valley don't give a shit about this since it doesn't affect them directly.
Generally speaking Facebook isn't hiring them to do the important stuff. That's the woke 25 year olds. H1Bs are in the mundane, back end stuff. Those are still decent paid jobs and plenty of Americans want them.
But my point is the young hip techies of Silicon Valley don't give a shit about this since it doesn't affect them directly.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:32 PM (22mNy)
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117 How many of the GOPe uniparty were kicking up their heels at the news that the six swing states had stopped counting ballots the night of November 3?
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (DJFLF)
That's when the corks started popping...'Its happening!'
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It was 9:30 EST that they closed shop in unison. What was interesting was at 9:00 EST the Chinese Yuan took a major nose dive in overseas markets. Having your banker's currency collapsing may have triggered the panic in the count. They are stuck trying to defend that a senile basement dweller somehow earned 80M votes and only overperformed Hillary and Obama in these six 'urban' polling places - simultaneously after they 'began counting ballots' at 5:30AM 4 November. Not unusual at all.
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (DJFLF)
That's when the corks started popping...'Its happening!'
----------------------
It was 9:30 EST that they closed shop in unison. What was interesting was at 9:00 EST the Chinese Yuan took a major nose dive in overseas markets. Having your banker's currency collapsing may have triggered the panic in the count. They are stuck trying to defend that a senile basement dweller somehow earned 80M votes and only overperformed Hillary and Obama in these six 'urban' polling places - simultaneously after they 'began counting ballots' at 5:30AM 4 November. Not unusual at all.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (ilw10)
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160 Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm reticent about believing all the Dominion stuff, but this sort of stuff is really not a great look.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm reticent about believing all the Dominion stuff, but this sort of stuff is really not a great look.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (LvTSG)
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132 You've lost the plot here. Just like Hollywood doesn't deserve conservative pro-business support, young tech workers don't deserve conservative labor protectionism either.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
Engineers are not particularly woke. At least not American ones. You can check political affiliation related to certain degrees. The leftist tilt is a result of this long-term policy.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
Engineers are not particularly woke. At least not American ones. You can check political affiliation related to certain degrees. The leftist tilt is a result of this long-term policy.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Zm+LZ)
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144 - Glowie Exhibit "A"
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Izzlo)
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (GIeIM)
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You've lost the plot here. Just like Hollywood doesn't deserve conservative pro-business support, young tech workers don't deserve conservative labor protectionism either.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
I don't think it's the nerdy programmers at google and other companies making all the noise. I think they want to just watch anime and code all day in a room with no windows.
I'd suggest you look to the marketing, HR, and other departments full of young, woke women if you really want to know who's all on board with censorship.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
I don't think it's the nerdy programmers at google and other companies making all the noise. I think they want to just watch anime and code all day in a room with no windows.
I'd suggest you look to the marketing, HR, and other departments full of young, woke women if you really want to know who's all on board with censorship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (UPoLF)
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Every minute that AG Barr wastes *not* investigating these numerous instances of fraud in the swing states is another minute that I lose total confidence in him as a Patriot.
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (DJFLF)
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Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Full signature audit under military observation of CO's election as well, will probably be needed. It's not about winning the election, but restoring faith in the legitimacy of the system. Laws will mean nothing if it is assumed those who compose, pass and enforce them are illegitimate.
Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Full signature audit under military observation of CO's election as well, will probably be needed. It's not about winning the election, but restoring faith in the legitimacy of the system. Laws will mean nothing if it is assumed those who compose, pass and enforce them are illegitimate.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Eg9+v)
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The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (BvLWD)
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Yet, my eldest daughter will watch.
She's a fanatic when it comes to SpongeBob.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (BvLWD)
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Yet, my eldest daughter will watch.
She's a fanatic when it comes to SpongeBob.
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (RU4sa)
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well for one the founders wanted to senate to represent the states, so the senate would be 60+ GOP based on state legislatures.
but the 17th amendment wrecked all that
not saying that would fix things but I don't think it helped
but the 17th amendment wrecked all that
not saying that would fix things but I don't think it helped
Posted by: brak at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (cG+eD)
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This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to
men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job,
because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for
pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it
were true.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
++++++
Yes. If any of the "wage gaps" (sexual, racial, religious, whatever)
existed, there would be *no one* but the group in question working. If I
can get a woman to work for me for a 25% discount (all other things
being equal), do you think I'd be in the business of hiring men?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (hYcqw)
To see this in action, see who works in the fields and who cleans houses. If you say illegal aliens because they'll take a smaller wage, you win.
This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to
men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job,
because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for
pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it
were true.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
++++++
Yes. If any of the "wage gaps" (sexual, racial, religious, whatever)
existed, there would be *no one* but the group in question working. If I
can get a woman to work for me for a 25% discount (all other things
being equal), do you think I'd be in the business of hiring men?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (hYcqw)
To see this in action, see who works in the fields and who cleans houses. If you say illegal aliens because they'll take a smaller wage, you win.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (ynpvh)
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Its truly hilarious that these Republican flavored idiots believe that if they get rid of Trump everything will go back to "normal". They actually believe this shit! They think we the people are going to watch them go back to failure theater, back to handing the country over to the highest bidder, back to going along with the democrat death march. We will just shrug, say oh well, we tried and keep on donating to their election. We will support them in those elections because we can't stomach the other side.
They do not know how hot that fire is burning. They are seriously underestimating the anger and disgust we feel. They are not watching these protests in GA and seeing that level of rage. There are 75 million people who voted for Trump and every one of us should be feared by those limp dicks in the United States Congress and Senate.
They do not know how hot that fire is burning. They are seriously underestimating the anger and disgust we feel. They are not watching these protests in GA and seeing that level of rage. There are 75 million people who voted for Trump and every one of us should be feared by those limp dicks in the United States Congress and Senate.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (Vxu+H)
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This also touches on the whole "women earn 70 cents on the dollar to men" argument. If this was true, men would find it hard to get a job, because smart businesses would hire nothing but competent women for pennies on the dollar and outcompete everyone else. Hell, I would if it were true.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
Exactly. These chicks are stupid and/or cynical. They're implicitly asking us to believe that a willie is the ultimate qualification for a job, and that all male applicants have to do is drop trou at an interview and they've got the job at top dollar.
It's much like blacks going on about redlining. Do they seriously think banks would not loan to someone because of his race? I think that they'd loan to Satan if they thought the loan would perform. Banks don't (or didn't) loan in the ghetto because of the risk of their collateral getting torched after a traffic stop. Who in his right mind would now loan a dime in the part of Minneapolis where George Floyd died?
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (ynpvh)
Exactly. These chicks are stupid and/or cynical. They're implicitly asking us to believe that a willie is the ultimate qualification for a job, and that all male applicants have to do is drop trou at an interview and they've got the job at top dollar.
It's much like blacks going on about redlining. Do they seriously think banks would not loan to someone because of his race? I think that they'd loan to Satan if they thought the loan would perform. Banks don't (or didn't) loan in the ghetto because of the risk of their collateral getting torched after a traffic stop. Who in his right mind would now loan a dime in the part of Minneapolis where George Floyd died?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (N8WbB)
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DOJ can impound the machines, ballot boxes, whatever the Uniparty politicos want sealed.
But they don't
WHY
But they don't
WHY
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (DJFLF)
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- I'd rather he created an armed national militia. Elections are now never to be trusted as honest.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (s2VJv)
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They are pushing it to the limit.
They think they can eliminate today's mood just as they
eliminated the tea party.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (s2VJv)
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They are pushing it to the limit.
They think they can eliminate today's mood just as they
eliminated the tea party.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (CZm2G)
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As one who has seen his job offshored several times (most recently in 2014), this is one of those reasons I don't care if the GOP is sent wandering in the desert for 40 years.
Unless there's a Trump or close facsimile at the White House, I'm screwed. Having the GOP in charge of one or both wings of congress doesn't matter.
Unless there's a Trump or close facsimile at the White House, I'm screwed. Having the GOP in charge of one or both wings of congress doesn't matter.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (ch6++)
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167 144 - Glowie Exhibit "A"
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Izzlo)
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Yep.
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Izzlo)
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Yep.
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (RU4sa)
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18 Related.
https://tinyurl.com/yy5ae8nr
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
FEC: @GOP/RNC scammed you out of $200 million since Election Day to "combat voter fraud."
Know how much they spent on legal doing that?
$4 million. 2%.
The RINOs pocketed 98% of your donations and did nothing to help
@realDonaldTrump
.
Don't give them another dime.
10:43 AM
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (R1LMN)
Thank you, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel.
https://tinyurl.com/yy5ae8nr
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
FEC: @GOP/RNC scammed you out of $200 million since Election Day to "combat voter fraud."
Know how much they spent on legal doing that?
$4 million. 2%.
The RINOs pocketed 98% of your donations and did nothing to help
@realDonaldTrump
.
Don't give them another dime.
10:43 AM
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (R1LMN)
Thank you, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (4tiP2)
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A PSA for Morons:
Palmetto State Armory is doing AR-15 Days of Christmas - they have comlpete lowers for $199 (PSA Stealth which means no logo stamped on the mag well)
This is a good deal in these uncertain times - they've been cheaper in the past but this isn't the past.
Palmetto State Armory is doing AR-15 Days of Christmas - they have comlpete lowers for $199 (PSA Stealth which means no logo stamped on the mag well)
This is a good deal in these uncertain times - they've been cheaper in the past but this isn't the past.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (ZfRYq)
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151 They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
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Indeed, jim. As well as the great quote from John Adams: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (Yt5Im)
They expected the Senate to represent the States.
Now it represents itself, and the Fed Government.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
___________
Indeed, jim. As well as the great quote from John Adams: "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (Yt5Im)
They expected the Senate to represent the States.
Now it represents itself, and the Fed Government.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (d9rwJ)
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We need to do a Hungarian thingy and pay Americans to have babies.
***
The easy way to do it? Your total income tax burden is reduced by have kids.
1 kid? 50% reduction. 2 kids? 75% reduction. And so on.
This will encourage middle and upper middle class people to have kids with REAL and SIGNIFICANT increases in their standard of living. Want to live closer to work? Have a kid. Want a new car? Have a kid. Etc.
The dependent class would get nothing since they don't pay income taxes anyway. The rich would get a good benefit too - but for them it won't matter because taxes aren't reducing their standard of living.
Right now the middle class can't afford to have more then 2 or 3 kids even if they want to - which is idiotic.
***
The easy way to do it? Your total income tax burden is reduced by have kids.
1 kid? 50% reduction. 2 kids? 75% reduction. And so on.
This will encourage middle and upper middle class people to have kids with REAL and SIGNIFICANT increases in their standard of living. Want to live closer to work? Have a kid. Want a new car? Have a kid. Etc.
The dependent class would get nothing since they don't pay income taxes anyway. The rich would get a good benefit too - but for them it won't matter because taxes aren't reducing their standard of living.
Right now the middle class can't afford to have more then 2 or 3 kids even if they want to - which is idiotic.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (qlFIA)
Posted by: Elliot Page at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (GIeIM)
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You've lost the plot here. Just like Hollywood doesn't deserve conservative pro-business support, young tech workers don't deserve conservative labor protectionism either.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
That's an interesting take. I can see how that might be the case.
We've seen rumblings of how sometimes the Big Tech moguls are kinda squishy about trying to stamp on some of the free speech stuff, but the rank and file would mutiny if they don't.
Or something like that.
I don't know enough to know, but wouldn't that be rich, if Jack and Mark and Jeff and Susan and all the rest are wanting to cut loose the freakazoids they hired in Californica, for easier to deal with worker drones in India.
It's these workers who are organizing to demand censorship and denial of services to conservatives, and using their collective ability to deny companies the ability to find workers as leverage.
Making it easy to draw on the functionally-unlimited supply of Indian programmers who don't give a shit takes away that leverage. I'm all for making it as easy as possible to replace woke assholes who wont do their jobs with foreigners who don't care about that crap.
Posted by: lurker at December 04, 2020 02:28 PM (cQC84)
That's an interesting take. I can see how that might be the case.
We've seen rumblings of how sometimes the Big Tech moguls are kinda squishy about trying to stamp on some of the free speech stuff, but the rank and file would mutiny if they don't.
Or something like that.
I don't know enough to know, but wouldn't that be rich, if Jack and Mark and Jeff and Susan and all the rest are wanting to cut loose the freakazoids they hired in Californica, for easier to deal with worker drones in India.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (hku12)
187
If Biden is put into the presidency, elections stopped being a thing in 2016.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (19g6/)
188
My nagging thought is that the GOP has conceded that we can't play BioBomb Poker with a player that has 1.3B chips to our 300M chips. I think this is why they signalled, in unison, that we're back to open borders.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (ilw10)
189
158 omfg, lol.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
she's not wrong.
and that's pretty damn funny.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice
she's not wrong.
and that's pretty damn funny.
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (W2Pud)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (YX5sd)
191
Just think back how seriously the Republicans took the Russia Hoax. Just think back how foolish they looked and sounded, even back then, while entertaining the farce.
But election fraud, the theft of a national election? They don't even care enough to lie to us and promise they'll propose reforms.
Just think back how seriously the Republicans took the Russia Hoax. Just think back how foolish they looked and sounded, even back then, while entertaining the farce.
But election fraud, the theft of a national election? They don't even care enough to lie to us and promise they'll propose reforms.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (6vHcr)
192
Looked to me like there were only two people in the chamber, the asshole in the big chair and the fuckhead Lee. Makes unanimous consent pretty easy when there's only one guy present.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (kTF2Z)
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WHAT will it take to overturn this fraud? WHATEVER it takes, do it!
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (VDbGO)
There's no need. Don't get me wrong, if some people wanted to put the fear of God into those pricks, I say have at it. But the video today was a warning. On top of testimony, statistics and forensics we can add surveillance. Kemp is in on the fix, no doubt, but I doubt he wants to do time for Joe Biden. Much less risk his LEOs and NG turning on him. He's no General Lee.
Posted by: Sam Adams at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (VDbGO)
There's no need. Don't get me wrong, if some people wanted to put the fear of God into those pricks, I say have at it. But the video today was a warning. On top of testimony, statistics and forensics we can add surveillance. Kemp is in on the fix, no doubt, but I doubt he wants to do time for Joe Biden. Much less risk his LEOs and NG turning on him. He's no General Lee.
Posted by: trev006 at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (WSKfa)
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142 Democrats have asked that the Trump ballots in Arizona which were recorded for Biden be sealed.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
__________
I'm surprised they weren't already burned to his crisp like like the former Mount Carmel in Waco ... or warehoused deep in the bowels of The Swamp next to Hillary's email servers, all Dominion voting machines, and the Lost Ark of the Covenant.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
__________
I'm surprised they weren't already burned to his crisp like like the former Mount Carmel in Waco ... or warehoused deep in the bowels of The Swamp next to Hillary's email servers, all Dominion voting machines, and the Lost Ark of the Covenant.
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (Yt5Im)
195
177 DOJ can impound the machines, ballot boxes, whatever the Uniparty politicos want sealed.
But they don't
WHY
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (DJFLF)
And now... Amazing Grace... on the Bagpipe!
But they don't
WHY
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (DJFLF)
And now... Amazing Grace... on the Bagpipe!
Posted by: AG Barr at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (d9rwJ)
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188 My nagging thought is that the GOP has conceded that we can't play BioBomb Poker with a player that has 1.3B chips to our 300M chips. I think this is why they signalled, in unison, that we're back to open borders.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (ilw10)
They're not worried about China. We just spent the last few decades helping to build up China. They don't view China as a rival or adversary.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (ilw10)
They're not worried about China. We just spent the last few decades helping to build up China. They don't view China as a rival or adversary.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (Zm+LZ)
197
Six point seven percent is an amazing accomplishment for the American people considering they have to contend with such amazingly corrupt governments.
Posted by: Javems at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (8SSHh)
198
Cuck Carlson never found a Republican straw man he couldn't attack
Posted by: rozel at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (EJ2Rs)
199
Are we facing one of the highest unemployment levels ever?
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
Yes we are. Lots of people are hurting and out of work because of the fake pandemic totalitarianism.
I haven't seen any unemployment levels recently. I think they're only supposed to matter during the run up to an election.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:13 PM (hku12)
Yes we are. Lots of people are hurting and out of work because of the fake pandemic totalitarianism.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (946rW)
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Democrats have asked that the Trump ballots in Arizona which were recorded for Biden be sealed.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
Instead can we seal the Democrats in something?
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
Instead can we seal the Democrats in something?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (Ksrv6)
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DOJ can impound the machines, ballot boxes, whatever the Uniparty politicos want sealed.
But they don't
WHY
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (DJFLF)
Maybe they want shit to get sporty.
But they don't
WHY
Posted by: kallisto at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (DJFLF)
Maybe they want shit to get sporty.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (zI9dG)
202
The AG is a powerless individual. He orders his minions to look into things and they, being part of the Deep State, ignore his orders.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (2BZBZ)
203
I'm shocked, shocked I tell you, to find out the GOP had colluded with the socialists/communists to toss Trump out of office.
Georgia, you're on your own. Good luck.
Georgia, you're on your own. Good luck.
Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (3H9h1)
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Did I wash under my tits? How do I know?
Go to: didiwashundermytits.gov
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Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (ejd/p)
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I don't think it's the nerdy programmers at
google and other companies making all the noise. I think they want to
just watch anime and code all day in a room with no windows.
I'd suggest you look to the marketing, HR, and other departments
full of young, woke women if you really want to know who's all on board
with censorship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (UPoLF)
100%. And moreover, whether liberal or conservative, American workers deserve the concern and protection of the government who alone has the power to preserve their livelihood from threats which are much larger than their resources can handle. If you don't want workers unions, protect workers from cheap foreign competition. "but muh cheap widgets" is meaningless if no one here has the money to buy them.
I don't think it's the nerdy programmers at
google and other companies making all the noise. I think they want to
just watch anime and code all day in a room with no windows.
I'd suggest you look to the marketing, HR, and other departments
full of young, woke women if you really want to know who's all on board
with censorship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (UPoLF)
100%. And moreover, whether liberal or conservative, American workers deserve the concern and protection of the government who alone has the power to preserve their livelihood from threats which are much larger than their resources can handle. If you don't want workers unions, protect workers from cheap foreign competition. "but muh cheap widgets" is meaningless if no one here has the money to buy them.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (Eg9+v)
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185
Hey!
my boner is back
Posted by: Elliot Page at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (GIeIM)
This doesn't have anything to do with Biden and his dog, does it?
Hey!
my boner is back
Posted by: Elliot Page at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (GIeIM)
This doesn't have anything to do with Biden and his dog, does it?
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (ynpvh)
207
182 A PSA for Morons:
Palmetto State Armory is doing AR-15 Days of Christmas - they have comlpete lowers for $199 (PSA Stealth which means no logo stamped on the mag well)
This is a good deal in these uncertain times - they've been cheaper in the past but this isn't the past.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (ZfRYq)
Seconded.
Also 'blemished' PSA uppers for $399. I have them, they work.
Together, that's $600 for a good rifle. If you don't have one...well, you need one. Possibly very soon.
Palmetto State Armory is doing AR-15 Days of Christmas - they have comlpete lowers for $199 (PSA Stealth which means no logo stamped on the mag well)
This is a good deal in these uncertain times - they've been cheaper in the past but this isn't the past.
Posted by: blaster at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (ZfRYq)
Seconded.
Also 'blemished' PSA uppers for $399. I have them, they work.
Together, that's $600 for a good rifle. If you don't have one...well, you need one. Possibly very soon.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (d1uFV)
208
Here's how the GOPe plays the game:
We will ask you for EVERYthing and you will ask us nothing (don't even mention that elections are stolen...that's sort of icky stuff , you know) and you will receive ........ mostly nothing.
Vote for Us!
Contribute to our campaigns....though most of us are hundred millionaires.
What a Gig!
We will ask you for EVERYthing and you will ask us nothing (don't even mention that elections are stolen...that's sort of icky stuff , you know) and you will receive ........ mostly nothing.
Vote for Us!
Contribute to our campaigns....though most of us are hundred millionaires.
What a Gig!
Posted by: Voter theater. at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (WbAOU)
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187 If Biden is put into the presidency, elections stopped being a thing in 2016.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (19g6/)
2016 wouldn't have been a thing if the Establishment knew what the result would be. The last free and fair election was 2012 and Romney rolled over for that.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (19g6/)
2016 wouldn't have been a thing if the Establishment knew what the result would be. The last free and fair election was 2012 and Romney rolled over for that.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (puu6v)
210
Didn't want to feed the troll last thread but thought irony of it accusing CRT of "projection" regarding reality/objective truth hilarious. Truly wanted to ask it to definitively state "Elliot" Page's sex.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (3a40t)
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I'm reticent about believing all the Dominion stuff, but this sort of stuff is really not a great look.
A lot of these theories get a lot more cachet from the reaction of the people implicated in them.
When they start erasing details and hiding their trails, it looks a lot more credible on the face of it.
I'm reticent about believing all the Dominion stuff, but this sort of stuff is really not a great look.
A lot of these theories get a lot more cachet from the reaction of the people implicated in them.
When they start erasing details and hiding their trails, it looks a lot more credible on the face of it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (oVJmc)
212
I agree with Sooth, this is the hill to die on, there might not be another.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (9sWOw)
213
Thread. criminals
https://tinyurl.com/y3xxk7su
jayewatson
@jayewatson
PROBLEMS AND SCRAMBLE ON EVE OF ELECTION DAY VOTING IN FULTON COUNTY: 'It's pretty bad.' That was the message from my friend tonight. They work for a big company that got a request for people with IT expertise to work election day. They went through
@atlchamber
and signed up. 1/
6:59 PM · Nov 2, 2020
CONT....
https://tinyurl.com/y3xxk7su
jayewatson
@jayewatson
PROBLEMS AND SCRAMBLE ON EVE OF ELECTION DAY VOTING IN FULTON COUNTY: 'It's pretty bad.' That was the message from my friend tonight. They work for a big company that got a request for people with IT expertise to work election day. They went through
@atlchamber
and signed up. 1/
6:59 PM · Nov 2, 2020
CONT....
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (R1LMN)
214
205
I don't think it's the nerdy programmers at
google and other companies making all the noise. I think they want to
just watch anime and code all day in a room with no windows.
I'd suggest you look to the marketing, HR, and other departments
full of young, woke women if you really want to know who's all on board
with censorship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (UPoLF)
100%. And moreover, whether liberal or conservative, American workers deserve the concern and protection of the government who alone has the power to preserve their livelihood from threats which are much larger than their resources can handle. If you don't want workers unions, protect workers from cheap foreign competition. "but muh cheap widgets" is meaningless if no one here has the money to buy them.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (Eg9+v)
The problem with unions is the same as the problem with other monopolies. That being said, it's perfectly reasonable to have a monopoly have to deal with a union, the consumers are screwed either way and this can actually result in a more productive economic outcome.
I don't think it's the nerdy programmers at
google and other companies making all the noise. I think they want to
just watch anime and code all day in a room with no windows.
I'd suggest you look to the marketing, HR, and other departments
full of young, woke women if you really want to know who's all on board
with censorship.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (UPoLF)
100%. And moreover, whether liberal or conservative, American workers deserve the concern and protection of the government who alone has the power to preserve their livelihood from threats which are much larger than their resources can handle. If you don't want workers unions, protect workers from cheap foreign competition. "but muh cheap widgets" is meaningless if no one here has the money to buy them.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (Eg9+v)
The problem with unions is the same as the problem with other monopolies. That being said, it's perfectly reasonable to have a monopoly have to deal with a union, the consumers are screwed either way and this can actually result in a more productive economic outcome.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (Zm+LZ)
215
2016 wouldn't have been a thing if the Establishment knew what the result would be.
I swear the delayed call of GA in 2016 was them trying to see if they could fraud it back into the Hildebeast column.
2016 wouldn't have been a thing if the Establishment knew what the result would be.
I swear the delayed call of GA in 2016 was them trying to see if they could fraud it back into the Hildebeast column.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (oVJmc)
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When they start erasing details and hiding their trails, it looks a lot more credible on the face of it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (oVJmc)
So used to getting away with it, but no more.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (oVJmc)
So used to getting away with it, but no more.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (Eg9+v)
217
Well, I wrote Marsha Blackburn and told her what I thought, for whatever that's worth...
Posted by: Hawkpilot at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (BhWPH)
218
196 188 My nagging thought is that the GOP has conceded that we can't play BioBomb Poker with a player that has 1.3B chips to our 300M chips. I think this is why they signalled, in unison, that we're back to open borders.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (ilw10)
They're not worried about China. We just spent the last few decades helping to build up China. They don't view China as a rival or adversary.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (Zm+LZ)
Correct. They bend over for China, bigly. They do fear the American people, hence the need for the Great Replacement and pliable Third Worlders.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (ilw10)
They're not worried about China. We just spent the last few decades helping to build up China. They don't view China as a rival or adversary.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (Zm+LZ)
Correct. They bend over for China, bigly. They do fear the American people, hence the need for the Great Replacement and pliable Third Worlders.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (puu6v)
219
omfg, lol.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM
Hilarious and perceptive girl child.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM
Hilarious and perceptive girl child.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (ejd/p)
220
The last free and fair election was 2012 and Romney rolled over for that.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (puu6v)
Given the quality of the opposition, I would argue that the last election out of Uniparty control was 1992. Perot could and should have gone all the way, but the Uniparty scammed him- at which point Clinton betrayed his unions. I am not ungrateful: more than any other factor, this is how we got Trump.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:38 PM (puu6v)
Given the quality of the opposition, I would argue that the last election out of Uniparty control was 1992. Perot could and should have gone all the way, but the Uniparty scammed him- at which point Clinton betrayed his unions. I am not ungrateful: more than any other factor, this is how we got Trump.
Posted by: trev006 at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (WSKfa)
221
151
They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
___________
Indeed, jim. As well as the great quote from John Adams: "Our
Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is
wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (Yt5Im)
The reason the left took over academia, infiltrated churches, glorified all forms of immorality; to make us an immoral people, incapable of protecting our government, and by exetension, ourselves.
They expected We the People to prevent that...
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (ynpvh)
___________
Indeed, jim. As well as the great quote from John Adams: "Our
Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is
wholly inadequate to the government of any other."
Posted by: ShainS at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (Yt5Im)
The reason the left took over academia, infiltrated churches, glorified all forms of immorality; to make us an immoral people, incapable of protecting our government, and by exetension, ourselves.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (ynpvh)
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125 Not to mention that H1B1 visas are, effectively, indentured servitude but without the bit where you can work the debt off and be free at the end.
---------------------
Absolutely charming how some of the same groups that rail against slavery and how evil we were are promoting indentured servitude.
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Absolutely charming how some of the same groups that rail against slavery and how evil we were are promoting indentured servitude.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (CZm2G)
223
>>>They do not know how hot that fire is burning. They are seriously underestimating the anger and disgust we feel. They are not watching these protests in GA and seeing that level of rage. There are 75 million people who voted for Trump and every one of us should be feared by those limp dicks in the United States Congress and Senate.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (Vxu+H)
THIS^
They are literally playing with fire.
BTW Facebook is banning just tons of shit. A friend just got a temp ban for suggesting a boycott of a particular television network. Yes there are reasons I'm still on Facebook for now.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (Vxu+H)
THIS^
They are literally playing with fire.
BTW Facebook is banning just tons of shit. A friend just got a temp ban for suggesting a boycott of a particular television network. Yes there are reasons I'm still on Facebook for now.
Posted by: Shep Smith at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (q177U)
224
My nagging thought is that the GOP has conceded that we can't play BioBomb Poker with a player that has...
My nagging thought is that the deep state and powers that be in the world actually developed the covid-19 in china specifically to create chaos and use fear as a weapon for people to give up their freedoms.
My nagging thought is that the deep state and powers that be in the world actually developed the covid-19 in china specifically to create chaos and use fear as a weapon for people to give up their freedoms.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (GIeIM)
226
197 Six point seven percent is an amazing accomplishment for the American people considering they have to contend with such amazingly corrupt governments.
Posted by: Javems at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (8SSHh)
6.7% is those on unemployment. Its how they count that number.
Unemployment is usually for 6 months, and they shut down the economy more than 6 months ago in many places.
ergo, a lot of those people no longer count, in that number.
Its F'n Corana virus or Global Warming numbers...
Posted by: Javems at December 04, 2020 02:36 PM (8SSHh)
6.7% is those on unemployment. Its how they count that number.
Unemployment is usually for 6 months, and they shut down the economy more than 6 months ago in many places.
ergo, a lot of those people no longer count, in that number.
Its F'n Corana virus or Global Warming numbers...
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (d9rwJ)
227
A PSA for Morons:
Palmetto State Armory is doing AR-15 Days of Christmas - they have comlpete lowers for $199 (PSA Stealth which means no logo stamped on the mag well)
This is a good deal in these uncertain times - they've been cheaper in the past but this isn't the past.
I think we really are at the 80% lowers time now.
Palmetto State Armory is doing AR-15 Days of Christmas - they have comlpete lowers for $199 (PSA Stealth which means no logo stamped on the mag well)
This is a good deal in these uncertain times - they've been cheaper in the past but this isn't the past.
I think we really are at the 80% lowers time now.
Posted by: President Elect 🐧 at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (C+evo)
228
212 I agree with Sooth, this is the hill to die on, there might not be another.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (9sWOw)
Pretty sure those in power have the hill they want us all to die on picked out.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (9sWOw)
Pretty sure those in power have the hill they want us all to die on picked out.
Posted by: Bete at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (Ojki1)
229
The 17th is the worst Amendment, period. Followed closely by 19 and 16
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (4NtsG)
230
What is wrong with Loeffler and Perdue. Are they fucking idiots? The could have safely voted against the Mike Lee open border bill, and not effected the outcome. Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a runoff
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
231
BTW Facebook is banning just tons of shit
instagram won't even let you share a link questioning the election without a popup to "fact check"
instagram won't even let you share a link questioning the election without a popup to "fact check"
Posted by: brak at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (cG+eD)
232
181 18 Related.
https://tinyurl.com/yy5ae8nr
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
FEC: @GOP/RNC scammed you out of $200 million since Election Day to "combat voter fraud."
Know how much they spent on legal doing that?
$4 million. 2%.
The RINOs pocketed 98% of your donations and did nothing to help
@realDonaldTrump
.
Don't give them another dime.
10:43 AM
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (R1LMN)
Thank you, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (4tiP2)
Remember and Never forget the people who are calling Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn, and others, who are fighting, grifters and con men.
https://tinyurl.com/yy5ae8nr
John Cardillo
@johncardillo
FEC: @GOP/RNC scammed you out of $200 million since Election Day to "combat voter fraud."
Know how much they spent on legal doing that?
$4 million. 2%.
The RINOs pocketed 98% of your donations and did nothing to help
@realDonaldTrump
.
Don't give them another dime.
10:43 AM
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:14 PM (R1LMN)
Thank you, Ronna (Romney) McDaniel.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:34 PM (4tiP2)
Remember and Never forget the people who are calling Lin Wood, Sidney Powell, Mike Flynn, and others, who are fighting, grifters and con men.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (R1LMN)
Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (AHq56)
234
Given the quality of the opposition, I would argue that the last election out of Uniparty control was 1992. Perot could and should have gone all the way, but the Uniparty scammed him- at which point Clinton betrayed his unions. I am not ungrateful: more than any other factor, this is how we got Trump.
Posted by: trev006 at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (WSKfa)
You may be right. All those "crazy" things Perot claimed were done to him back then don't seem so unusual now. It may have been as bad as the treasonous Russia collusion hoax.
Given the quality of the opposition, I would argue that the last election out of Uniparty control was 1992. Perot could and should have gone all the way, but the Uniparty scammed him- at which point Clinton betrayed his unions. I am not ungrateful: more than any other factor, this is how we got Trump.
Posted by: trev006 at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (WSKfa)
You may be right. All those "crazy" things Perot claimed were done to him back then don't seem so unusual now. It may have been as bad as the treasonous Russia collusion hoax.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (puu6v)
235
Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Full
signature audit under military observation of CO's election as well,
will probably be needed. It's not about winning the election, but
restoring faith in the legitimacy of the system. Laws will mean nothing
if it is assumed those who compose, pass and enforce them are
illegitimate.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Eg9+v)
The US military should never be deployed anywhere without 'robust' sules of engagement.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Full
signature audit under military observation of CO's election as well,
will probably be needed. It's not about winning the election, but
restoring faith in the legitimacy of the system. Laws will mean nothing
if it is assumed those who compose, pass and enforce them are
illegitimate.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (Eg9+v)
The US military should never be deployed anywhere without 'robust' sules of engagement.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (kOpft)
236
If you don't want workers unions, protect workers from cheap foreign competition. "but muh cheap widgets" is meaningless if no one here has the money to buy them.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (Eg9+v)
And the thing is -- I don't want your cheap fucking widgets.
I go out of my way to buy stuff that was not made in some third world shit hole, because I'd rather spend more money on something that will last and be more enjoyable / less of a pain in the ass to use, then buy the "cheaper" version at walmart, that is going to be a headache the entire time I use it, and break at the most inopportune time.
And unfortunately, more and more American manufacturing is disappearing because consumers are a bit slow to realize that it's often time true that "you get what you pay for."
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:37 PM (Eg9+v)
And the thing is -- I don't want your cheap fucking widgets.
I go out of my way to buy stuff that was not made in some third world shit hole, because I'd rather spend more money on something that will last and be more enjoyable / less of a pain in the ass to use, then buy the "cheaper" version at walmart, that is going to be a headache the entire time I use it, and break at the most inopportune time.
And unfortunately, more and more American manufacturing is disappearing because consumers are a bit slow to realize that it's often time true that "you get what you pay for."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (UPoLF)
237
The problem with unions is the same as the problem
with other monopolies. That being said, it's perfectly reasonable to
have a monopoly have to deal with a union, the consumers are screwed
either way and this can actually result in a more productive economic
outcome.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (Zm+LZ)
I'm not suggesting to 'completely secure' peoples 'right to work', although you could consider idleness a negative externality and protect certain sectors (i.e. like artisanal toys or something) in order to ensure productive people don't go to waste because their labor isn't needed -- but at the very least we should expect that the government protect us from threats we cannot deal with. The same logic by which we state that it's the government's duty to protect us from foreign threats (in terms of military action) we can say it's their duty to protect us from foreign commercial predation. If you think about nasty episodes in history like the Opium Wars, it's obvious that it all starts with some government not fully accepting that protecting from commercial exploitation is part of their job as a security apparatus.
with other monopolies. That being said, it's perfectly reasonable to
have a monopoly have to deal with a union, the consumers are screwed
either way and this can actually result in a more productive economic
outcome.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:39 PM (Zm+LZ)
I'm not suggesting to 'completely secure' peoples 'right to work', although you could consider idleness a negative externality and protect certain sectors (i.e. like artisanal toys or something) in order to ensure productive people don't go to waste because their labor isn't needed -- but at the very least we should expect that the government protect us from threats we cannot deal with. The same logic by which we state that it's the government's duty to protect us from foreign threats (in terms of military action) we can say it's their duty to protect us from foreign commercial predation. If you think about nasty episodes in history like the Opium Wars, it's obvious that it all starts with some government not fully accepting that protecting from commercial exploitation is part of their job as a security apparatus.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (Eg9+v)
238
They are literally playing with fire.
BTW Facebook is banning just tons of shit. A friend just got a temp ban for suggesting a boycott of a particular television network. Yes there are reasons I'm still on Facebook for now.
Posted by: Shep Smith
I've gotten banned every month since May for a historical picture of someone saluting. I removed the picture in June.
BTW Facebook is banning just tons of shit. A friend just got a temp ban for suggesting a boycott of a particular television network. Yes there are reasons I'm still on Facebook for now.
Posted by: Shep Smith
I've gotten banned every month since May for a historical picture of someone saluting. I removed the picture in June.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (SMh/7)
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230 What is wrong with Loeffler and Perdue. Are they fucking idiots? The could have safely voted against the Mike Lee open border bill, and not effected the outcome. Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a runoff
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
Not a single GOP member voted against it or objected to it in the Senate. They really do hate you and want you replaces if you check off the right boxes.
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
Not a single GOP member voted against it or objected to it in the Senate. They really do hate you and want you replaces if you check off the right boxes.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (R1LMN)
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Anyone have a good place to learn about body armor? Think about it. Steel, ceramic and carriers. I'm thinking about level III+. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Archer at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (gmo/4)
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They're not worried about China. We just spent the last few decades helping to build up China. They don't view China as a rival or adversary.
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Do you think the Wuhan Hand Grenade was an accident? I don't. I think it was a lightly lethal shot across our and the world's bow. The hyped up reaction created to the Flu by scaring the shit out of Wine Moms was orchestrated by Dems in NY, NJ, CT, and PA. The worlds banking center and national media center are housed in NYC aka - super spreader.
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Do you think the Wuhan Hand Grenade was an accident? I don't. I think it was a lightly lethal shot across our and the world's bow. The hyped up reaction created to the Flu by scaring the shit out of Wine Moms was orchestrated by Dems in NY, NJ, CT, and PA. The worlds banking center and national media center are housed in NYC aka - super spreader.
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (ilw10)
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The US military should never be deployed anywhere without 'robust' rules of engagement.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (kOpft)
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This^
All this.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (kOpft)
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This^
All this.
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (RU4sa)
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230 What is wrong with Loeffler and Perdue. Are they fucking idiots? The could have safely voted against the Mike Lee open border bill, and not effected the outcome. Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a runoff
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
The most generous explanation is they campaigning and not on the Senate floor to register their opposition to the voice vote. The more realistic explanation is they are fine with it.
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
The most generous explanation is they campaigning and not on the Senate floor to register their opposition to the voice vote. The more realistic explanation is they are fine with it.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (puu6v)
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They are literally playing with fire.
I would like this to be true, but I don't think it is, and that this is the problem. Hard to blame ordinary people with families and hopes for the future for not wanting to burn the world down. So long as most people have food in the refrigerator etc., I don't think anyone has anything to fear from the right. Not doomerism; I just think that's how things work. Compare Antifa goons, who are apparently 25% mentally ill trannies.
I would like this to be true, but I don't think it is, and that this is the problem. Hard to blame ordinary people with families and hopes for the future for not wanting to burn the world down. So long as most people have food in the refrigerator etc., I don't think anyone has anything to fear from the right. Not doomerism; I just think that's how things work. Compare Antifa goons, who are apparently 25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (AHq56)
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You have to wonder if this is all a reverse 69.
Uniparty deep state makes a deal with Wall Street to cheat Trump, and then cheat to make sure Gop wins runoff. Divided gubmint and no AOC
Uniparty deep state makes a deal with Wall Street to cheat Trump, and then cheat to make sure Gop wins runoff. Divided gubmint and no AOC
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (aENAX)
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You know, there is a very strong and very plausible suspicion that the
GOP has colluded with the Democrats to rig the election against Trump --
so they can get back to endlessly servicing their only real
constituents, megacorporations and tech monopolies.
That's not a conspiracy theory. We are at the point where it's conspiracy fact.
GOP has colluded with the Democrats to rig the election against Trump --
so they can get back to endlessly servicing their only real
constituents, megacorporations and tech monopolies.
That's not a conspiracy theory. We are at the point where it's conspiracy fact.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (rkCLP)
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The president's rally tomorrow in Georgia should be very interesting. I can't imagine President Trump doing it for two Republican Shits who have already turned their backs on him.
The president's rally tomorrow in Georgia should be very interesting. I can't imagine President Trump doing it for two Republican Shits who have already turned their backs on him.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (6vHcr)
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I'm not suggesting to 'completely secure' peoples 'right to work', although you could consider idleness a negative externality and protect certain sectors (i.e. like artisanal toys or something) in order to ensure productive people don't go to waste because their labor isn't needed -- but at the very least we should expect that the government protect us from threats we cannot deal with. The same logic by which we state that it's the government's duty to protect us from foreign threats (in terms of military action) we can say it's their duty to protect us from foreign commercial predation. If you think about nasty episodes in history like the Opium Wars, it's obvious that it all starts with some government not fully accepting that protecting from commercial exploitation is part of their job as a security apparatus.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (Eg9+v)
In the abstract collective protection against large threats makes sense as a general rule. However, when it comes to the details and specifics you run into balance of power issues. You'll note the government and the monopolies somehow seem to always end up on the same side. I don't have a clear answer for this, but we need something more material than the abstract principle.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (Eg9+v)
In the abstract collective protection against large threats makes sense as a general rule. However, when it comes to the details and specifics you run into balance of power issues. You'll note the government and the monopolies somehow seem to always end up on the same side. I don't have a clear answer for this, but we need something more material than the abstract principle.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (Zm+LZ)
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Democrats have asked that the Trump ballots in Arizona which were recorded for Biden be sealed.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
I don't understand what that means.
Probably "shredded"?
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
I don't understand what that means.
Probably "shredded"?
Posted by: President Elect LASue at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (Ed8Zd)
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135 115 Is this news?
#Arizona's Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County Dominion election software and equipment.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (CZm2G)
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Who are these "leaders"? ...
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (22mNy)
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Bite your tongue.
It's a press release from the Arizona State Legislature
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1334941188340789249
#Arizona's Legislative Leaders call for audit of Maricopa County Dominion election software and equipment.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:27 PM (CZm2G)
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Who are these "leaders"? ...
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:29 PM (22mNy)
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Bite your tongue.
It's a press release from the Arizona State Legislature
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/
1334941188340789249
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (CZm2G)
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I go out of my way to buy stuff that was not made in some third world shit hole, because I'd rather spend more money on something that will last and be more enjoyable / less of a pain in the ass to use, then buy the "cheaper" version at walmart, that is going to be a headache the entire time I use it, and break at the most inopportune time.
And unfortunately, more and more American manufacturing is disappearing because consumers are a bit slow to realize that it's often time true that "you get what you pay for."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
There's a reason I buy Snap On instead of Stanley.
I go out of my way to buy stuff that was not made in some third world shit hole, because I'd rather spend more money on something that will last and be more enjoyable / less of a pain in the ass to use, then buy the "cheaper" version at walmart, that is going to be a headache the entire time I use it, and break at the most inopportune time.
And unfortunately, more and more American manufacturing is disappearing because consumers are a bit slow to realize that it's often time true that "you get what you pay for."
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
There's a reason I buy Snap On instead of Stanley.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
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If we're gonna go open borders why do Unions get to have closed shops?
Posted by: Puddin Head at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (ilw10)
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242 The US military should never be deployed anywhere without 'robust' rules of engagement.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (kOpft)
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This^
All this.
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (RU4sa)
And this: they should not be deployed anywhere that isn't in the United States' best interest, which is where they are mostly deployed.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:42 PM (kOpft)
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This^
All this.
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (RU4sa)
And this: they should not be deployed anywhere that isn't in the United States' best interest, which is where they are mostly deployed.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (puu6v)
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Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a runoff <<<<<<<
True, but the actual votes won't be tabulated anyway. I wish I knew this in March of this year, would have saved a lot of time. The people that have been pre-picked to win will win.
True, but the actual votes won't be tabulated anyway. I wish I knew this in March of this year, would have saved a lot of time. The people that have been pre-picked to win will win.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (r+sAi)
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My nagging thought is that the deep state and powers that be in the world actually developed the covid-19 in china specifically to create chaos and use fear as a weapon for people to give up their freedoms.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (r+sAi)
Nah, too convoluted, and is not commensurate with Occam's Razor.
My take: they didn't cause this, but seized upon it as a golden opportunity to grab more power.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (r+sAi)
Nah, too convoluted, and is not commensurate with Occam's Razor.
My take: they didn't cause this, but seized upon it as a golden opportunity to grab more power.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (lA5kl)
Posted by: klaftern at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
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Anyone have a good place to learn about body armor? Think about it. Steel, ceramic and carriers. I'm thinking about level III+. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Archer at December 04, 2020 02:43 PM (gmo/4)
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RTS Tactical
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RTS Tactical
https://tinyurl.com/yyz5maez
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (RU4sa)
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The slimy (no roll call vote) passage of this bill, *at this moment*, really says it all.
This thing was stymied earlier this year - Lee wanted to push it, but obviously it was insane political poison for the GOP, so it didn't go anywhere.
And they voice vote it ..... now???????????
As others have said and I've said since it happened, where the F were Cotton, Hawley, a few others of the handful of GOP in the Senate who are worth anything?
And note what this says/confirms about the GOP.
ace, it's more than a "suspicion" about the GOP desperately wanting Trump gone, it's been an obvious fact since the get-go.
Imagine a Dem candidate - an incumbent president - having such massive evidence of fraud against him in an election (right, not plausible, because 99% of the election fraud is on the Dem side, has been so for generations). Imagine it. Imagine the reaction from the Dem office-holders, down to the Berkeley City Council. Imagine the "press".
Now come back to reality.
GOP Senate voice votes an odious work immigration bill, as "their" president faces ouster (not electoral defeat). GOP legislatures mumble and fidget (so far). Several governors can barely be bothered to even make a statement.
This thing was stymied earlier this year - Lee wanted to push it, but obviously it was insane political poison for the GOP, so it didn't go anywhere.
And they voice vote it ..... now???????????
As others have said and I've said since it happened, where the F were Cotton, Hawley, a few others of the handful of GOP in the Senate who are worth anything?
And note what this says/confirms about the GOP.
ace, it's more than a "suspicion" about the GOP desperately wanting Trump gone, it's been an obvious fact since the get-go.
Imagine a Dem candidate - an incumbent president - having such massive evidence of fraud against him in an election (right, not plausible, because 99% of the election fraud is on the Dem side, has been so for generations). Imagine it. Imagine the reaction from the Dem office-holders, down to the Berkeley City Council. Imagine the "press".
Now come back to reality.
GOP Senate voice votes an odious work immigration bill, as "their" president faces ouster (not electoral defeat). GOP legislatures mumble and fidget (so far). Several governors can barely be bothered to even make a statement.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (OTzUX)
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Of course the GOP is in on the steal. We need to stop voting - just stop. Let the country go over the cliff quickly instead of hanging on by our fingernails waiting to fall.
The GOP senators are getting rich selling out the country - let's stop them from getting paid.
And they plan to amnesty 30 million next year, so they won't even need to rig elections going forward.
The country is over let's boycott the GOP and FOX News and at least bring those traitors down with the rest of us.
The GOP senators are getting rich selling out the country - let's stop them from getting paid.
And they plan to amnesty 30 million next year, so they won't even need to rig elections going forward.
The country is over let's boycott the GOP and FOX News and at least bring those traitors down with the rest of us.
Posted by: Lulu at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (PFAAg)
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250 Democrats have asked that the Trump ballots in Arizona which were recorded for Biden be sealed.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
I don't understand what that means.
Probably "shredded"?
Posted by: President Elect LASue at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (Ed8Zd)
The evidence will be hidden from the public. And then likely shredded, either early on in the normal procedures.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:30 PM (Zm+LZ)
I don't understand what that means.
Probably "shredded"?
Posted by: President Elect LASue at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (Ed8Zd)
The evidence will be hidden from the public. And then likely shredded, either early on in the normal procedures.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (Zm+LZ)
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The president's rally tomorrow in Georgia should be very
interesting. I can't imagine President Trump doing it for two Republican
Shits who have already turned their backs on him.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (6vHcr)
AFAIK these two republicans have, at very least, called for the resignation of rat-burger, the SOS of Georgia. But in any case, don't be too harsh with the saps when they come crawling back; just treat them this way: We accept your apology, we accept your support, we do not give you support, you will do what we say.
The president's rally tomorrow in Georgia should be very
interesting. I can't imagine President Trump doing it for two Republican
Shits who have already turned their backs on him.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (6vHcr)
AFAIK these two republicans have, at very least, called for the resignation of rat-burger, the SOS of Georgia. But in any case, don't be too harsh with the saps when they come crawling back; just treat them this way: We accept your apology, we accept your support, we do not give you support, you will do what we say.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (Eg9+v)
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Bete it's better to pick your defense line than have the enemy pick it.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (9sWOw)
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Looked to me like there were only two people in the chamber, the asshole in the big chair and the fuckhead Lee. Makes unanimous consent pretty easy when there's only one guy present.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (kTF2Z)
Yep. That was the point. Idont' know if others could have stopped it, or I this is basically all on Lee.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at December 04, 2020 02:35 PM (kTF2Z)
Yep. That was the point. Idont' know if others could have stopped it, or I this is basically all on Lee.
Posted by: President Elect LASue at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Chaos increases over time.
One on the law of Physics.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
Entropy, dude, is a bitch.
Chaos increases over time.
One on the law of Physics.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
Entropy, dude, is a bitch.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
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And they've actually pushed Fox videos to the top of their recommendations.
The leverage Big Tech is applying really needs to be broken.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (oVJmc)
FOX: the Potemkin network
The leverage Big Tech is applying really needs to be broken.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 02:15 PM (oVJmc)
FOX: the Potemkin network
Posted by: Hands - I'm still being counted at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (786Ro)
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If the rona was a real threat instead of a prop, there would have been a Fulda Gap response.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (4NtsG)
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230 What is wrong with Loeffler and Perdue. Are they fucking idiots? The could have safely voted against the Mike Lee open border bill, and not effected the outcome. Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a runoff
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
Perhaps they need to signal to the vote stuffers that they are down with the system more than to "voters", whose votes don't actually mean much of anything?
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
Perhaps they need to signal to the vote stuffers that they are down with the system more than to "voters", whose votes don't actually mean much of anything?
Posted by: Bete at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (Ojki1)
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They work harder.
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (so+NG)
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@248 Soothsayer-I agree about the two shitheads but I think the reason he's doing is bigger than just holding the senate. At this point it's just about beating these a-holes on the left amidst all the fraud.
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (0jZnq)
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Perdue's cousin, Sonny, was governor of GA for two terms until 2011. Sonny Perdue is currently in the Trump Cabinet as Sec Agriculture.
I would assume Sonny knows Insider stuff about Georgia.
Perdue's cousin, Sonny, was governor of GA for two terms until 2011. Sonny Perdue is currently in the Trump Cabinet as Sec Agriculture.
I would assume Sonny knows Insider stuff about Georgia.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (6vHcr)
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261 Of course the GOP is in on the steal. We need to stop voting - just stop. Let the country go over the cliff quickly instead of hanging on by our fingernails waiting to fall.
The GOP senators are getting rich selling out the country - let's stop them from getting paid.
And they plan to amnesty 30 million next year, so they won't even need to rig elections going forward.
The country is over let's boycott the GOP and FOX News and at least bring those traitors down with the rest of us.
Posted by: Lulu at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (PFAAg)
The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries(not entirely true since a few of the elites make it through, but close enough).
The GOP senators are getting rich selling out the country - let's stop them from getting paid.
And they plan to amnesty 30 million next year, so they won't even need to rig elections going forward.
The country is over let's boycott the GOP and FOX News and at least bring those traitors down with the rest of us.
Posted by: Lulu at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (PFAAg)
The inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries(not entirely true since a few of the elites make it through, but close enough).
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (Zm+LZ)
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omfg, lol.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM
Hilarious and perceptive girl child.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (ejd/p)
I'm going to guess, unlike everything else that aired on Nickelodeon, there weren't any kiddie diddlers on the "set" of Spongebob, since I don't think there would have been any kids working on the show, as voice actors or otherwise.
That being said, since Steve Hillenburg is dead, and wasn't involved in the show for much of its later seasons, the show turned to crep, and any live action nonsense they pull now will be Randy Marsh record breaking sized crep.
The boy told the girl (who turns ten tomorrow) that there's a SpongeBob musical. She says, and I quote directly, "Well, that's probably the most homo thing ever made."
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM
Hilarious and perceptive girl child.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 04, 2020 02:40 PM (ejd/p)
I'm going to guess, unlike everything else that aired on Nickelodeon, there weren't any kiddie diddlers on the "set" of Spongebob, since I don't think there would have been any kids working on the show, as voice actors or otherwise.
That being said, since Steve Hillenburg is dead, and wasn't involved in the show for much of its later seasons, the show turned to crep, and any live action nonsense they pull now will be Randy Marsh record breaking sized crep.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (hku12)
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Of course the GOP is in on the steal. We need to stop voting - just stop. Let the country go over the cliff quickly instead of hanging on by our fingernails waiting to fall.
The GOP senators are getting rich selling out the country - let's stop them from getting paid.
And they plan to amnesty 30 million next year, so they won't even need to rig elections going forward.
The country is over let's boycott the GOP and FOX News and at least bring those traitors down with the rest of us.
Posted by: Lulu at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (PFAAg)
LOL.
Lots of these folks around lately, amirite?
The GOP senators are getting rich selling out the country - let's stop them from getting paid.
And they plan to amnesty 30 million next year, so they won't even need to rig elections going forward.
The country is over let's boycott the GOP and FOX News and at least bring those traitors down with the rest of us.
Posted by: Lulu at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (PFAAg)
LOL.
Lots of these folks around lately, amirite?
Posted by: President Elect LASue at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (Ed8Zd)
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Entropy, dude, is a bitch.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
Elliott "Ellen" Page dude is one too
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (ynpvh)
Elliott "Ellen" Page dude is one too
Posted by: Hands - I'm still being counted at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (786Ro)
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Slowly dropping radio talk shows and blogs, give me a " elections have consequences " or "Sundowner just had more votes" and I'm out of there.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (9sWOw)
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268
If the rona was a real threat instead of a prop, there would have been a Fulda Gap response.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (4NtsG)
The death rate OVERALL would be significantly higher this year that previous years. From my understanding it is not, as if those dying are those that mostly would've died from something else (flu, heart attack, etc).
If the rona was a real threat instead of a prop, there would have been a Fulda Gap response.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (4NtsG)
The death rate OVERALL would be significantly higher this year that previous years. From my understanding it is not, as if those dying are those that mostly would've died from something else (flu, heart attack, etc).
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (ynpvh)
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If Joe Bidet is inaugurated any and all enlisted service personnel should seriously consider leaving the Armed Forces when their current enlistment expires.
Joe will send them off to die for stupid causes.
Joe will send them off to die for stupid causes.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (2BZBZ)
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Again all I have to look forward to is Star Bucks new set of personal services.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (m/vQu)
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160 Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Does anyone here know about banking and accounting software? How do banks, corporations, and accounting companies work to prevent software errors, and check for software changes made to let someone steal money from accounts?
Is there anything comparable for users of Dominion products?
I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Does anyone here know about banking and accounting software? How do banks, corporations, and accounting companies work to prevent software errors, and check for software changes made to let someone steal money from accounts?
Is there anything comparable for users of Dominion products?
I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (AMIL/)
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How to find ammo for that nice PSA AR-15 you just built:
Go to ammoseek.com
Near top left, under "Quick seek", click .223 Remington or 5.56x45 NATO
In the center, under "Modify search", click the green martini glass looking button
Search modifiers I like:
Condition: new
Case material: brass (or steel if you have an AK)
Shipping: Hide retailers with "high" shipping costs and higher
Click "Search" and weep at how ammo prices are 3x what you're used to. But, at least you can find it.
Go to ammoseek.com
Near top left, under "Quick seek", click .223 Remington or 5.56x45 NATO
In the center, under "Modify search", click the green martini glass looking button
Search modifiers I like:
Condition: new
Case material: brass (or steel if you have an AK)
Shipping: Hide retailers with "high" shipping costs and higher
Click "Search" and weep at how ammo prices are 3x what you're used to. But, at least you can find it.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (UW2ZS)
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GOP Senate voice votes an odious work immigration bill
Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (OTzUX)
Next election they can say they "voice voted" for or against this bill, depending on which way the wind blows. /spit
Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2020 02:46 PM (OTzUX)
Next election they can say they "voice voted" for or against this bill, depending on which way the wind blows. /spit
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (lA5kl)
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It's all fake. The virus is fake and so were the trillions spent to combat it. There, I said it.
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (so+NG)
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And the GOP thinks that you will vote in the next election to "Stop the democrat agenda!" And most of you will.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (ZVUa9)
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https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2020/12/03/288993-n288993
They have video link from Georga I think, just starting to read it.
They have video link from Georga I think, just starting to read it.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (9sWOw)
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GOP Senate voice votes an odious work immigration bill
We should use voice votes at some point in the future to decide which politicians dangle from lamp posts. Sauce for the goose, and all that.
We should use voice votes at some point in the future to decide which politicians dangle from lamp posts. Sauce for the goose, and all that.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (lA5kl)
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My unemployment benefits will be running out soon, so I will no longer be contributing to the UI. Congratulate me!
My unemployment benefits will be running out soon, so I will no longer be contributing to the UI. Congratulate me!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (mht8P)
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Yep, nothing like rallying the troops by letting them know you believe them expendable right before the fight.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (J70i0)
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Chaos increases over time.
One on the law of Physics.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
Unless there is some Control to counter it. Would you believe it?
One on the law of Physics.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
Unless there is some Control to counter it. Would you believe it?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (Ksrv6)
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255 Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a runoff
True, but the actual votes won't be tabulated anyway. I wish I knew this in March of this year, would have saved a lot of time. The people that have been pre-picked to win will win.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (r+sAi)
Welcome to the world of pro-wrestling writ large, though even wrestling admitted it is all just for show over 20 years ago.
True, but the actual votes won't be tabulated anyway. I wish I knew this in March of this year, would have saved a lot of time. The people that have been pre-picked to win will win.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (r+sAi)
Welcome to the world of pro-wrestling writ large, though even wrestling admitted it is all just for show over 20 years ago.
Posted by: Bete at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (Ojki1)
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279 If Joe Bidet is inaugurated any and all enlisted service personnel should seriously consider leaving the Armed Forces when their current enlistment expires.
Joe will send them off to die for stupid causes.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (2BZBZ)
It has been happening for the last few years. Look for it to accelerate.
Joe will send them off to die for stupid causes.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (2BZBZ)
It has been happening for the last few years. Look for it to accelerate.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (puu6v)
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It's all fake. The virus is fake and so were the trillions spent to combat it. There, I said it.
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (so+NG)
Virus is real, apparently kills about as many as would be killed in a bad flu season.
It's all fake. The virus is fake and so were the trillions spent to combat it. There, I said it.
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (so+NG)
Virus is real, apparently kills about as many as would be killed in a bad flu season.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (ynpvh)
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I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (AMIL/)
They don't.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (AMIL/)
They don't.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (d9rwJ)
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They will open the entire country up completely in March 2021. That has been my prediction since November 4th.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (m/vQu)
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You know, there is a very strong and very plausible suspicion that the GOP has colluded with the Democrats to rig the election against Trump -- so they can get back to endlessly servicing their only real constituents, megacorporations and tech monopolies.
no kidding
Lee was giddy when it passed
Romney is still trashing Trump
And Pelosi is scaling back her demands already.
with the heat of a thousand suns, I despise the GOP now
no kidding
Lee was giddy when it passed
Romney is still trashing Trump
And Pelosi is scaling back her demands already.
with the heat of a thousand suns, I despise the GOP now
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (sfhL4)
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Deplorable Jay - Hell yes.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (SScvq)
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I would like this to be true, but I don't think it
is, and that this is the problem. Hard to blame ordinary people with
families and hopes for the future for not wanting to burn the world
down. So long as most people have food in the refrigerator etc., I don't
think anyone has anything to fear from the right. Not doomerism; I just
think that's how things work. Compare Antifa goons, who are apparently
25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (H5knJ)
Biden is going to keep the economy locked down for 100 more days - to start. Worry not - it's coming.
But I do blame those, at this point, that want nothing more than to defer the pain. I guess they'd rather their kids deal with this shit storm. I want all the pain now. All of it.
FYI - there was a time, not that long ago - when I said "there exists a certain cohort that will accept anything as long as the store shelves are full" was met with derision and scorn.
is, and that this is the problem. Hard to blame ordinary people with
families and hopes for the future for not wanting to burn the world
down. So long as most people have food in the refrigerator etc., I don't
think anyone has anything to fear from the right. Not doomerism; I just
think that's how things work. Compare Antifa goons, who are apparently
25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (H5knJ)
Biden is going to keep the economy locked down for 100 more days - to start. Worry not - it's coming.
But I do blame those, at this point, that want nothing more than to defer the pain. I guess they'd rather their kids deal with this shit storm. I want all the pain now. All of it.
FYI - there was a time, not that long ago - when I said "there exists a certain cohort that will accept anything as long as the store shelves are full" was met with derision and scorn.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (rkCLP)
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73 60 So...Ace,
Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?
Nobody is expecting the second coming of Barry Goldwater, but the Republicans will be marginally better than the Democrats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (xT2tT)
We don't actually disagree on that point. Marginally better equates to slowing them down though, war-gamed out, a few years at most. Is that our best course of action?
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (Zm+LZ)
This is not our best course of action.
We have 71 million Americans who are now hip to the scam that has been going on for years. These votes mean something, and they're more mobilized than they've been -- probably ever.
We need to primary GOPe candidates beginning in January. Set up an independent crowdsource facility to field candidates, and put the fear of God into these GOPeS.
Third party is not an option. We need a hostile takeover of the GOP.
Are you on the Boycott-The-Senate-Election train?
Nobody is expecting the second coming of Barry Goldwater, but the Republicans will be marginally better than the Democrats.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 04, 2020 02:20 PM (xT2tT)
We don't actually disagree on that point. Marginally better equates to slowing them down though, war-gamed out, a few years at most. Is that our best course of action?
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:22 PM (Zm+LZ)
This is not our best course of action.
We have 71 million Americans who are now hip to the scam that has been going on for years. These votes mean something, and they're more mobilized than they've been -- probably ever.
We need to primary GOPe candidates beginning in January. Set up an independent crowdsource facility to field candidates, and put the fear of God into these GOPeS.
Third party is not an option. We need a hostile takeover of the GOP.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
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I would like this to be true, but I don't think it is, and that this is the problem. Hard to blame ordinary people with families and hopes for the future for not wanting to burn the world down. So long as most people have food in the refrigerator etc., I don't think anyone has anything to fear from the right. Not doomerism; I just think that's how things work. Compare Antifa goons, who are apparently 25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (H5knJ)
Yup and I can point to myself as a perfect example. 37, great wife, two kids (3 and 1). Recently moved out of MA to SC to give my kids a better life. I can't imagine what it would take for me to sacrifice all I have worked for for myself and my family.
Just being honest. I fault no one on the right for not acting like antifa. And I certainly won't call for people to do this type of bidding on my behalf.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:44 PM (H5knJ)
Yup and I can point to myself as a perfect example. 37, great wife, two kids (3 and 1). Recently moved out of MA to SC to give my kids a better life. I can't imagine what it would take for me to sacrifice all I have worked for for myself and my family.
Just being honest. I fault no one on the right for not acting like antifa. And I certainly won't call for people to do this type of bidding on my behalf.
Posted by: Grip the Weasel at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (KbCG3)
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Unless there is some Control to counter it. Would you believe it?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (Ksrv6)
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Oh, there is.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (Ksrv6)
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Oh, there is.
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (RU4sa)
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There's a reason I buy Snap On instead of Stanley.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
Yeah. I try to buy American made tools to the extent possible. I always skip the Home Depot cheap versions and try to get the real versions.
Pretty much everything in my kitchen was made either in the US, France, or Germany. I've been working to phase out the Chinese made shit for years.
Which reminds me, have any of you used like a good potato peeler? Not the shitty one that everyone's mom has in her kitchen with the handle and the blade and spinny thing at the end? But the one that has a handle, and the blade is an actual blade on a swivel at the top?
Holy shit, it's life changing.
Or having pots and pans that don't deform from use or leech weird chemicals in to your food.
Like yeah, my "made in france" Le Creuset stuff (they also sell stuff made in thailand) is not cheap, but I've had most of my pieces for years, and they're just as good as they were the day I bought them.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
Yeah. I try to buy American made tools to the extent possible. I always skip the Home Depot cheap versions and try to get the real versions.
Pretty much everything in my kitchen was made either in the US, France, or Germany. I've been working to phase out the Chinese made shit for years.
Which reminds me, have any of you used like a good potato peeler? Not the shitty one that everyone's mom has in her kitchen with the handle and the blade and spinny thing at the end? But the one that has a handle, and the blade is an actual blade on a swivel at the top?
Holy shit, it's life changing.
Or having pots and pans that don't deform from use or leech weird chemicals in to your food.
Like yeah, my "made in france" Le Creuset stuff (they also sell stuff made in thailand) is not cheap, but I've had most of my pieces for years, and they're just as good as they were the day I bought them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (UPoLF)
Posted by: Archer at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (gmo/4)
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There's a reason I buy Snap On instead of Stanley.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
I had a set of Stanley screwdrivers made in GB, once upon a time. Craftsman also used to be made in the USA almost exclusively. Unfortunately, even Snap-On has tools and equipment manufactured outside of the USA. I believe they have the source listed under specifications on their website. I think most of their hand tools are still USA made.
I've been slowly replacing my tools, and have been careful as to the point of origin. I think the worst so far was Taiwan (DeWalt), and I'm good with them for the moment.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
I had a set of Stanley screwdrivers made in GB, once upon a time. Craftsman also used to be made in the USA almost exclusively. Unfortunately, even Snap-On has tools and equipment manufactured outside of the USA. I believe they have the source listed under specifications on their website. I think most of their hand tools are still USA made.
I've been slowly replacing my tools, and have been careful as to the point of origin. I think the worst so far was Taiwan (DeWalt), and I'm good with them for the moment.
Posted by: clutch cargo Now 100% Lubricant Free at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (L8ADy)
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Over 50? Your last task will be to train your H-1B replacement, who will make half what you did, or less.
Over 50? Your last task will be to train your H-1B replacement, who will make half what you did, or less.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Miklos the Magyar at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (QzkSJ)
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So you young ladies want .223s vs .308s because the latter is tooo noisy? Buck up. LOLw
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (so+NG)
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Chaos increases over time.
One on the law of Physics.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
Unless there is some Control to counter it. Would you believe it?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (Ksrv6)
In a closed system, entropy increases. The only way it doesn't is if the system is not closed, i.e. something external is influencing it.
Chaos increases over time.
One on the law of Physics.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (2BZBZ)
Unless there is some Control to counter it. Would you believe it?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (Ksrv6)
In a closed system, entropy increases. The only way it doesn't is if the system is not closed, i.e. something external is influencing it.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (ynpvh)
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Take the anger and energy generated by the GOPe Senate and direct it in the form of service or money to help Trump secure this election.
Trump securing this election will alter the H1B/joebiden/China problem.
Trump securing this election will alter the H1B/joebiden/China problem.
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (CZm2G)
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At least Kemp is a goner, as is Ducey
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (aENAX)
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Said yesterday I thing Georgians got the shaft but losing those 2 Senators will be the end if Trump can't get a decent court judge which might be the Supreme court.
I fully believe Georgia voted for Trump as much as Pennsylvanians did. It wasn't even close.
I fully believe Georgia voted for Trump as much as Pennsylvanians did. It wasn't even close.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (9sWOw)
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PA legislature announces it is ready to play the role of failure, in failure theater.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (Zm+LZ)
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ChanneLock tools and S-K tools are made in USA, mostly.
ChanneLock tools and S-K tools are made in USA, mostly.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (6vHcr)
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I...could be paid to make babies.
Posted by: Miklos the Magyar at December 04, 2020
It is my time
Posted by: Miklos the Magyar at December 04, 2020
It is my time
Posted by: Lena Dunham at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (GIeIM)
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I blame the Kochs for all of this, they're the ones that seemed to successfully be able to hijack the GOP into a Big Business Lobby that served their interests.
I guess their ideological vision in the US as a trading zone, nothing more.
I guess their ideological vision in the US as a trading zone, nothing more.
Posted by: Blago at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (gkdnV)
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They are saying our citizens are not good enough.
Like I said earlier, why have the Dept of Education at all now? They are worthless, right? I mean, the public schools and universities are churning out worthless dummies with worthless diplomas. Churning out worthless people. Shut down the university subsidies and funding. Shut down the Dept of Education. Worthless.
You do not see other countries dummying down their kids like the US is doing.
They are saying our citizens are not good enough.
Like I said earlier, why have the Dept of Education at all now? They are worthless, right? I mean, the public schools and universities are churning out worthless dummies with worthless diplomas. Churning out worthless people. Shut down the university subsidies and funding. Shut down the Dept of Education. Worthless.
You do not see other countries dummying down their kids like the US is doing.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (sfhL4)
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307 So you young ladies want .223s vs .308s because the latter is tooo noisy? Buck up. LOLw
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (so+NG)
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lol
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (so+NG)
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lol
Posted by: SMH at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (RU4sa)
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The death rate OVERALL would be significantly higher this year that previous years. From my understanding it is not, as if those dying are those that mostly would've died from something else (flu, heart attack, etc).
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (ynpvh)
Yep. The tipoff: the death rate is dropping, even as the incidence of cases continues to climb. (Notice all of the Reds now focus on CASES, not fatalities.)
Inference: Covid carried off the vulnerable (the elderly, the already ill, etc.) just as influenza outbreaks do, and now is just infecting people who get typically recover.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (ynpvh)
Yep. The tipoff: the death rate is dropping, even as the incidence of cases continues to climb. (Notice all of the Reds now focus on CASES, not fatalities.)
Inference: Covid carried off the vulnerable (the elderly, the already ill, etc.) just as influenza outbreaks do, and now is just infecting people who get typically recover.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (lA5kl)
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Third party is not an option. We need a hostile takeover of the GOP.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
Republican brand is tainted.
There are many ethnic Conservative voters who would vote on issues, but have been taught Repubs are evil.
Republican Party replaced the Whigs, in about 4 years, using 1846 technology and media.
We need a NEW Third Party.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
Republican brand is tainted.
There are many ethnic Conservative voters who would vote on issues, but have been taught Repubs are evil.
Republican Party replaced the Whigs, in about 4 years, using 1846 technology and media.
We need a NEW Third Party.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (d9rwJ)
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Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Does anyone here know about banking and accounting software? How do banks, corporations, and accounting companies work to prevent software errors, and check for software changes made to let someone steal money from accounts?
Is there anything comparable for users of Dominion products?
I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (AMIL/)
I don't know anything about banking software, but I assume there is very tight security on banking software because the banks AND their customers want there to be tight security.
Voting software companies and their customers*?
Not so much.
*Lest anyone be confused about this, voters are NOT their customers. State Secretaries of State and Election Commissioners are.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
Does anyone here know about banking and accounting software? How do banks, corporations, and accounting companies work to prevent software errors, and check for software changes made to let someone steal money from accounts?
Is there anything comparable for users of Dominion products?
I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 02:48 PM (AMIL/)
I don't know anything about banking software, but I assume there is very tight security on banking software because the banks AND their customers want there to be tight security.
Voting software companies and their customers*?
Not so much.
*Lest anyone be confused about this, voters are NOT their customers. State Secretaries of State and Election Commissioners are.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (hku12)
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So, I went to Mass this morning. In my rush, I left my mask at home. Nobody said boo. Partake of Holy Communion. (slight taste of hand sanitizer on the body, blood, soul and divinity of Christ). The priest even dispenses it on the tongue when presented. The charade is collapsing.
Posted by: JAS at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (2BZBZ)
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My unemployment benefits will be running out soon, so I will no longer be contributing to the UI. Congratulate me!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (mht8P)
I will be taking your place on December 31st. Yippee!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 02:50 PM (mht8P)
I will be taking your place on December 31st. Yippee!
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (m/vQu)
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And the GOP thinks that you will vote in the next election to "Stop the democrat agenda!" And most of you will.
That's where the pro-voting argument breaks down for me. We have to do so now, because control of the Senate is critical. But I'll be told the same thing 2, 4, 6 . . . infinity years from now too. How do I know? Because I've always been told this. Eating a shit sandwich once? Maybe. But I'm really being asked to sign up for the shit-sandwich-of-the-month club. We've already seen 2 enormous efforts to change the party go down in flames, the Tea Party and now Trump. What is the long-term strategy here? Cause infinite shit sandwiches plan is not giving me a 4-hour erection.
That's where the pro-voting argument breaks down for me. We have to do so now, because control of the Senate is critical. But I'll be told the same thing 2, 4, 6 . . . infinity years from now too. How do I know? Because I've always been told this. Eating a shit sandwich once? Maybe. But I'm really being asked to sign up for the shit-sandwich-of-the-month club. We've already seen 2 enormous efforts to change the party go down in flames, the Tea Party and now Trump. What is the long-term strategy here? Cause infinite shit sandwiches plan is not giving me a 4-hour erection.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (H5knJ)
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And the GOP thinks that you will vote in the next election to "Stop the democrat agenda!" And most of you will.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (ZVUa9)
To do any differently is to be a troll. Just ask Dildo. Or don't - he'll tell you regardless.
And the GOP thinks that you will vote in the next election to "Stop the democrat agenda!" And most of you will.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (ZVUa9)
To do any differently is to be a troll. Just ask Dildo. Or don't - he'll tell you regardless.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (rkCLP)
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In a closed system, entropy increases. The only way
it doesn't is if the system is not closed, i.e. something external is
influencing it.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (ynpvh)
It was just a Get Smart joke. Chaos (KAOS) Control. Would you believe? Damn, I got to talk to my joke writers about that one.
it doesn't is if the system is not closed, i.e. something external is
influencing it.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (ynpvh)
It was just a Get Smart joke. Chaos (KAOS) Control. Would you believe? Damn, I got to talk to my joke writers about that one.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (Ksrv6)
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You guise hated the NBA before, wait until it is revealed that a lot of the cheating and rigging was done under the cover of NBA stadiums.
Wonder what other sports pro leagues and colleges provided the same services in any capacity what so ever.
Wonder what other sports pro leagues and colleges provided the same services in any capacity what so ever.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (R1LMN)
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My takeaway from the whole "jobs to foreigners" thing is that the ruling class of this country intends to replace current Americans with a more compliant American.
We no longer meet the standard, so much like the English felt that the problem with Scotland is that it was full of Scotsmen, our government on behalf of their paymasters have set about curing the problem with America.
Show me where I'm wrong.
We no longer meet the standard, so much like the English felt that the problem with Scotland is that it was full of Scotsmen, our government on behalf of their paymasters have set about curing the problem with America.
Show me where I'm wrong.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (z79tQ)
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Yep. The tipoff: the death rate is dropping, even as the incidence of cases continues to climb. (Notice all of the Reds now focus on CASES, not fatalities.)
Inference: Covid carried off the vulnerable (the elderly, the already ill, etc.) just as influenza outbreaks do, and now is just infecting people who get typically recover.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (lA5kl)
Real tip off? The rate of death from Heart Disease, which is the biggest killer in the US?
DECREASED even though LESS people have been seeing their Doctors.
Inference: Covid carried off the vulnerable (the elderly, the already ill, etc.) just as influenza outbreaks do, and now is just infecting people who get typically recover.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (lA5kl)
Real tip off? The rate of death from Heart Disease, which is the biggest killer in the US?
DECREASED even though LESS people have been seeing their Doctors.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (d9rwJ)
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So yeah, the worst Republican is better than the best dimocrap. Always.
Perfect is the enemy of the good in Republican circles.
Posted by: Uncle Rick at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM
You're totally right. I no longer regret my votes for McCain and Romney, and look forward to voting for Jeb! (or whatever GOPe placeholder) in 2024. Let's help ensure a slow march to an all-controlling federal government instead of a fast overreach by the left...better to slowly boil the frog for its own good, as it might try to save itself otherwise!
So yeah, the worst Republican is better than the best dimocrap. Always.
Perfect is the enemy of the good in Republican circles.
Posted by: Uncle Rick at December 04, 2020 02:19 PM
You're totally right. I no longer regret my votes for McCain and Romney, and look forward to voting for Jeb! (or whatever GOPe placeholder) in 2024. Let's help ensure a slow march to an all-controlling federal government instead of a fast overreach by the left...better to slowly boil the frog for its own good, as it might try to save itself otherwise!
Posted by: Grimmy at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (lOtJl)
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Third party is not an option. We need a hostile takeover of the GOP.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
Does anyone remember the Tea Party? Remember being called "Hobbits"? Extensive interference (from both REPs and DEMs) to quash the nascient movement? Negative press calling the movement racist (despite the mixed races seen at rallies)?
Third party is not an option. We need a hostile takeover of the GOP.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
Does anyone remember the Tea Party? Remember being called "Hobbits"? Extensive interference (from both REPs and DEMs) to quash the nascient movement? Negative press calling the movement racist (despite the mixed races seen at rallies)?
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (ynpvh)
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299. We did that in 1994, and then the deep state pushed out Newt, and Gop Senate bowed to Clinton
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (aENAX)
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I will be taking your place on December 31st. Yippee!
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (m/vQu)
_________
Sorry to hear that, man. Tis the season!
I will be taking your place on December 31st. Yippee!
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (m/vQu)
_________
Sorry to hear that, man. Tis the season!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (mht8P)
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Inference: Covid carried off the vulnerable (the elderly, the already ill, etc.) just as influenza outbreaks do, and now is just infecting people who get typically recover.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (lA5kl)
The flu is much worse relatively speaking as it also kills the healthy. Specifically H1N1 which surprisingly left the over 65 alone.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (lA5kl)
The flu is much worse relatively speaking as it also kills the healthy. Specifically H1N1 which surprisingly left the over 65 alone.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (m/vQu)
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Does anyone here know about banking and accounting software? How do banks, corporations, and accounting companies work to prevent software errors, and check for software changes made to let someone steal money from accounts?
Is there anything comparable for users of Dominion products?
I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
I am a developer in the financial sector. We do a ton of "unit testing" to make sure individual calculations are correct, "integration testing" to make sure combined software components are correct, as well as "compliance testing" to ensure we're complying with all relevant regulations, "functional testing" to do integration testing at a higher component level, and about a dozen other types of testing.
On top of that we have a TON of record keeping requirements in case we need to examine individual transactions for mistakes, fraud, what have you.
We also have audits.
We also hire penetration testers to help find our security weaknesses.
This is a very high level overview. There's a lot more.
To your second question, I don't think we can do all of this from the outside. From what I've heard, Dominion makes you sign a contract that says you don't get to audit their code, just trust us. And yes, that contract is insane.
As to the penetration testing part, there are at least 12 known attack vectors that white hat hackers have published regarding their machines.
Is there anything comparable for users of Dominion products?
I wonder how, or even if, the counties and states using the Dominion systems verify the election-day output of Dominion-proprietary systems is correct? I doubt I will like the answers.
I am a developer in the financial sector. We do a ton of "unit testing" to make sure individual calculations are correct, "integration testing" to make sure combined software components are correct, as well as "compliance testing" to ensure we're complying with all relevant regulations, "functional testing" to do integration testing at a higher component level, and about a dozen other types of testing.
On top of that we have a TON of record keeping requirements in case we need to examine individual transactions for mistakes, fraud, what have you.
We also have audits.
We also hire penetration testers to help find our security weaknesses.
This is a very high level overview. There's a lot more.
To your second question, I don't think we can do all of this from the outside. From what I've heard, Dominion makes you sign a contract that says you don't get to audit their code, just trust us. And yes, that contract is insane.
As to the penetration testing part, there are at least 12 known attack vectors that white hat hackers have published regarding their machines.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (UW2ZS)
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Anyone have a good place to learn about body armor? Think about it. Steel, ceramic and carriers. I'm thinking about level III+. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Archer
Most plate manufacturers are running 6 to 9+ months behind.
Posted by: Archer
Most plate manufacturers are running 6 to 9+ months behind.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (SMh/7)
336
Heels up in Chief Harris with a Chucky run Senate and Sloppy Choppers in the House we are done.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (9sWOw)
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one out of 800 in ND has died of the China flue
normal influenza deaths are one per 1,000
so mask up yall
normal influenza deaths are one per 1,000
so mask up yall
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (GIeIM)
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"And now... Amazing Grace... on the Bagpipe!" Posted by: AG Barr
Trump was asked about Barr and he said "ask me again in a few weeks".
We are generally disappointed with these #2weeks announcements. Does Trump have some aces up his sleeve that involve Barr swinging the hammer? Or does he plan the Insurrection Act and he slams the hammer against Barr and others, using his military intelligence arm? idk
Trump was asked about Barr and he said "ask me again in a few weeks".
We are generally disappointed with these #2weeks announcements. Does Trump have some aces up his sleeve that involve Barr swinging the hammer? Or does he plan the Insurrection Act and he slams the hammer against Barr and others, using his military intelligence arm? idk
Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (Cus5s)
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Like yeah, my "made in france" Le Creuset stuff (they also sell stuff made in thailand) is not cheap, but I've had most of my pieces for years, and they're just as good as they were the day I bought them.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Lodge cast iron. Tennessee.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Lodge cast iron. Tennessee.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (SMh/7)
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327 My takeaway from the whole "jobs to foreigners" thing is that the ruling class of this country intends to replace current Americans with a more compliant American.
We no longer meet the standard, so much like the English felt that the problem with Scotland is that it was full of Scotsmen, our government on behalf of their paymasters have set about curing the problem with America.
Show me where I'm wrong.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (z79tQ)
This is exactly what is underway. They should at least pay us a severance to keep quiet about our replacement.
We no longer meet the standard, so much like the English felt that the problem with Scotland is that it was full of Scotsmen, our government on behalf of their paymasters have set about curing the problem with America.
Show me where I'm wrong.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (z79tQ)
This is exactly what is underway. They should at least pay us a severance to keep quiet about our replacement.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat (Joe Biden Didn't Kill Himself at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (puu6v)
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Send us $100 ASAP to help us fight against the immigration bill we just passed.
- GOP
- GOP
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (22mNy)
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Google has Christmas lights around their logo to celebrate "December *Global* Holidays", presumably all month long.
Yes, they are rubbing it in.
Yes, they are rubbing it in.
Posted by: ... at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (auIRg)
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Yes, Trump has been proven correct again in that his secret malaria drug is working miracles.
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (so+NG)
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Over 50? Your last task will be to train your H-1B replacement, who will make half what you did, or less.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
So of course if you're anywhere near 50? Forget about finally knocking rust off old skills and finally getting in the game. They don't want you. Nobody does.
Yeah, I need to work out how a middle aged depressive in awful shape can carve out a future in warlordism. I suspect it's going to be a growth industry this decade!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
So of course if you're anywhere near 50? Forget about finally knocking rust off old skills and finally getting in the game. They don't want you. Nobody does.
Yeah, I need to work out how a middle aged depressive in awful shape can carve out a future in warlordism. I suspect it's going to be a growth industry this decade!
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (OUMaO)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (mht8P)
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ChanneLock tools and S-K tools are made in USA, mostly.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (6vHcr)
Didn't know that. Might explain why I've only had to replace channel locks that I've lost. Never had any break.
Some of the ones in my plumbing tool box are older then I am (were my grandfathers).
ChanneLock tools and S-K tools are made in USA, mostly.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (6vHcr)
Didn't know that. Might explain why I've only had to replace channel locks that I've lost. Never had any break.
Some of the ones in my plumbing tool box are older then I am (were my grandfathers).
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (UPoLF)
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And the GOP thinks that you will vote in the next election to "Stop the democrat agenda!" And most of you will.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (ZVUa9)
I've seen the 2 party RNC/DNC scam before I was old enough to vote. I vote for ideas policies, not parties. I voted for Trump's policies in 2016.
People give their votes away too easily. Probably a good idea to reconsider that, and value yourself and your vote.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at December 04, 2020 02:49 PM (ZVUa9)
I've seen the 2 party RNC/DNC scam before I was old enough to vote. I vote for ideas policies, not parties. I voted for Trump's policies in 2016.
People give their votes away too easily. Probably a good idea to reconsider that, and value yourself and your vote.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (R1LMN)
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If Joe Bidet is inaugurated any and all enlisted service personnel
should seriously consider leaving the Armed Forces when their current
enlistment expires.
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Or immediately since without a legitimate Commander in Chief, the entire military is similarly illegitimate.
should seriously consider leaving the Armed Forces when their current
enlistment expires.
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Or immediately since without a legitimate Commander in Chief, the entire military is similarly illegitimate.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (kOpft)
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if one tests positive for covid, can you go to work and the store if you wear a mask?
I say yes, because masks work, amIright??
I say yes, because masks work, amIright??
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (GIeIM)
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Enemies, Foreign and Domestic...
Enemies, Foreign and Domestic...
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (6vHcr)
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There's a reason I buy Snap On instead of Stanley.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
Stanley Tools are made in the USA.
https://www.stanleytools.com/explore/product-
stories/made-in-the-usa-with-global-materials
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:45 PM (SMh/7)
Stanley Tools are made in the USA.
https://www.stanleytools.com/explore/product-
stories/made-in-the-usa-with-global-materials
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (CZm2G)
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Sparta and Rome found out what happens when you replace your labor force with foreigners.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (m/vQu)
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Posted by: illiniwek at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (Cus5s)
No he's saying Snack Barr has a few weeks left to change his opinion.
No he's saying Snack Barr has a few weeks left to change his opinion.
Posted by: ... at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (auIRg)
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So Brave and courageous of Tuckered Out Carlson attacking the republicans (we already know the republican scum in the Senate are traitors) over this immigration scam while ignoring or not standing up over the election coup being waged by the democrat communists which is truly the real threat to our Republic.. He should be attacking the coup every single night but his Fox masters forbid it and they must be obeyed.. Brave Sir Tucker. If the senate scum knew that President Trump will be sitting in the White House come January they would not have dared pass this travesty of a bill because Trump would veto it instantly. Tucker the Snake Oil Salesman can go pound sand. He has revealed his true self to us suckers and we will not be fooled again.
Posted by: Junius at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (V86NW)
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OT - for metalheads & horror fans, "Living After Midnight", an anthology of short horror fiction inspired by heavy metal songs, is free on kindle
amazon.com/dp/B004HIM2QG/
amazon.com/dp/B004HIM2QG/
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (Izzlo)
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When I was a kid in Kenosha, it had two supporting industries: Snap-On Tools and AMC. One was known for manufacturing high quality tools. I think the other was run by a fellow who manufactured quite the tool himself.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (3a40t)
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I fully believe Georgia voted for Trump as much as Pennsylvanians did. It wasn't even close.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (9sWOw)
I've used this argument with effect: look at the number of ballots in PA that had only had a vote for President.
Trump (only): 818
Biden (only): 820. No, that's not right, it was Biden 5,820. No, that's not right, either. It was Biden 95,820. That's ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEEN TIMES as many. Now, what is the simplest explanation for such a disparity?
I trotted that one out to a scientist friend of mine who is ill-informed (he reads the LAT), and there was a LONG silence afterwards.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (9sWOw)
I've used this argument with effect: look at the number of ballots in PA that had only had a vote for President.
Trump (only): 818
Biden (only): 820. No, that's not right, it was Biden 5,820. No, that's not right, either. It was Biden 95,820. That's ONE HUNDRED SEVENTEEN TIMES as many. Now, what is the simplest explanation for such a disparity?
I trotted that one out to a scientist friend of mine who is ill-informed (he reads the LAT), and there was a LONG silence afterwards.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (lA5kl)
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>To do any differently is to be a troll. Just ask Dildo. Or don't - he'll tell you regardless.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (rkCLP)
Heh, that argument has zero effect on me, and hasn't for many years. I suspect I'm not alone in this.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (rkCLP)
Heh, that argument has zero effect on me, and hasn't for many years. I suspect I'm not alone in this.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (L106N)
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*Lest anyone be confused about this, voters are NOT their customers.
State Secretaries of State and Election Commissioners are.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (hku12)
And just like with Google, Facebook, and other online services, WE are the commodity being sold.
*Lest anyone be confused about this, voters are NOT their customers.
State Secretaries of State and Election Commissioners are.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (hku12)
And just like with Google, Facebook, and other online services, WE are the commodity being sold.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (ynpvh)
360
ace, may we please have a happy thread and maybe one under it so the people who want to keep yelling at each other may do so while the rest of us discuss guns and boobs and otters in the Happy Fun Thread.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (GbPPJ)
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We did that in 1994, and then the deep state pushed out Newt, and Gop Senate bowed to Clinton
***
It is even worse then that.
The Deep State knew Newt and his chosen successor were having affairs (why hello FBI files!) and got them to step back.
Who was next in line as Speaker of the House? Dennis Hastert. The pedophile Dennis Hastert. Who a number of members on the left have since claimed then knew was a pedophile.
And after Hastert became the most powerful Republican in DC all real attempts at conservative reform stopped. Because he was the first high profile case of controlled opposition. But not the last.
***
It is even worse then that.
The Deep State knew Newt and his chosen successor were having affairs (why hello FBI files!) and got them to step back.
Who was next in line as Speaker of the House? Dennis Hastert. The pedophile Dennis Hastert. Who a number of members on the left have since claimed then knew was a pedophile.
And after Hastert became the most powerful Republican in DC all real attempts at conservative reform stopped. Because he was the first high profile case of controlled opposition. But not the last.
Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (qlFIA)
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337 one out of 800 in ND has died of the China flue
normal influenza deaths are one per 1,000
so mask up yall
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (GIeIM)
Total number of deaths per week is about the same as all other years.
They are paying MORE to hospitals if you die of Covid.
So, no.
normal influenza deaths are one per 1,000
so mask up yall
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (GIeIM)
Total number of deaths per week is about the same as all other years.
They are paying MORE to hospitals if you die of Covid.
So, no.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (d9rwJ)
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PS, yes, I know: The boycott. I looked for a non-Fox video of the clip but apparently, now that Fox has joined the left, YouTube is actually taking down pirated clips.
Posted by: Ace at 02:09 PM
Bitchute? gab? 4chins?
Posted by: Ace at 02:09 PM
Bitchute? gab? 4chins?
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (R1LMN)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (sfhL4)
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325 It was just a Get Smart joke. Chaos (KAOS) Control. Would you believe? Damn, I got to talk to my joke writers about that one.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (Ksrv6)
Didn't watch that much of Get Smart, other than remembering the "Cone of Silence" and the shoe phone bits.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (Ksrv6)
Didn't watch that much of Get Smart, other than remembering the "Cone of Silence" and the shoe phone bits.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (ynpvh)
366
PA legislature announces it is ready to play the role of failure, in failure theater.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (Zm+LZ)
About a week or so ago when I heard Doug Mastriano I thought PA could be the first state to stop this shit and might help get the ball rolling for other states to nut up. Then the GOP "leadership" completely cucked and said they would do nothing.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 02:53 PM (Zm+LZ)
About a week or so ago when I heard Doug Mastriano I thought PA could be the first state to stop this shit and might help get the ball rolling for other states to nut up. Then the GOP "leadership" completely cucked and said they would do nothing.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (Ksrv6)
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Show me a transparent election count and I will vote. That is all I ask.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (r+sAi)
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JAS - Was listening to a lot of Mike Gallagher on radio today, he had callers leaving messages of wearing masks religiously and still getting Covid-19.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (9sWOw)
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Lodge cast iron. Tennessee.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (SMh/7)
Huge Lodge fan. Not very expensive, and I think they're the only cast iron cookware manufacturer still based in the US.
But, alas, as much as I love cast iron, it's not the ideal for everything. Plus it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to both clean and store properly. Enamel and Stainless Steel cookware also have their time and place.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM (SMh/7)
Huge Lodge fan. Not very expensive, and I think they're the only cast iron cookware manufacturer still based in the US.
But, alas, as much as I love cast iron, it's not the ideal for everything. Plus it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to both clean and store properly. Enamel and Stainless Steel cookware also have their time and place.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (UPoLF)
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OT-Well, if you want a laugh and haven't seen it, I suggest taking a look at post #614 in the Biden and dog thread. Krebs vs. Karnot has an amusing little poem.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (WkPC9)
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Cause infinite shit sandwiches plan is not giving me a 4-hour erection.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
You're not doing it right.
Cause infinite shit sandwiches plan is not giving me a 4-hour erection.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
You're not doing it right.
Posted by: Pete Buttigieg at December 04, 2020 03:00 PM (63Dwl)
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I am guilty of wishing that H1-B's would be brought into the USA to replace the jobs of United States Senators and their staffers.
Not to mention H1B replacement workers for Conserva-Media, Podcasters, TruCon Twitter Bluechecks,
Not to mention H1B replacement workers for Conserva-Media, Podcasters, TruCon Twitter Bluechecks,
Posted by: Hands - H2Hot at December 04, 2020 03:00 PM (786Ro)
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If Trump loses, i want him to lead the party against Pudding Pop and Kameltoe. Criticize them and call them commies everyday on everything they do
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 03:00 PM (aENAX)
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I trotted that one out to a scientist friend of mine who is
ill-informed (he reads the LAT), and there was a LONG silence
afterwards.
***
Might also want to point out a large number of then stacks of the "mail in ballots" that got counted overnight went Biden 99%+.
Now, sure mail in ballots probably were a little more pro-Biden then other voting...but what are the odds of any random group of ballots being 1000 to 10 or more in a state that was overall supposedly 50/50?
I trotted that one out to a scientist friend of mine who is
ill-informed (he reads the LAT), and there was a LONG silence
afterwards.
***
Might also want to point out a large number of then stacks of the "mail in ballots" that got counted overnight went Biden 99%+.
Now, sure mail in ballots probably were a little more pro-Biden then other voting...but what are the odds of any random group of ballots being 1000 to 10 or more in a state that was overall supposedly 50/50?
Posted by: 18-1 at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (qlFIA)
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Anyone have a good place to learn about body armor? Think about it. Steel, ceramic and carriers. I'm thinking about level III+. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Archer
Most plate manufacturers are running 6 to 9+ months behind.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (SMh/
Lot of interesting YouTube vids on homemade body armor. A lot that actually do the job.
Posted by: Archer
Most plate manufacturers are running 6 to 9+ months behind.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (SMh/
Lot of interesting YouTube vids on homemade body armor. A lot that actually do the job.
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (m/vQu)
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360 ace, may we please have a happy thread and maybe one under it so the people who want to keep yelling at each other may do so while the rest of us discuss guns and boobs and otters in the Happy Fun Thread.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (GbPPJ)
I would also like a guns, boobs and what was after boobs? I got distracted...
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 02:58 PM (GbPPJ)
I would also like a guns, boobs and what was after boobs? I got distracted...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (ifmtJ)
377
Why is every single MI state rep look like they are playing pretend student government in high school?
I have almost zero faith in that group of fags to do anything requiring resolve.
I have almost zero faith in that group of fags to do anything requiring resolve.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (SScvq)
378
Real tip off? The rate of death from Heart Disease, which is the biggest killer in the US?
DECREASED even though LESS people have been seeing their Doctors.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (d9rwJ)
Excellent point. I hadn't known that.
Of course, it might be that deaths from heart disease are rung up as Covid deaths, too. Maybe Dominion is branching out into actuarial statistics.
DECREASED even though LESS people have been seeing their Doctors.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:55 PM (d9rwJ)
Excellent point. I hadn't known that.
Of course, it might be that deaths from heart disease are rung up as Covid deaths, too. Maybe Dominion is branching out into actuarial statistics.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (lA5kl)
379
Anyone have a good place to learn about body armor? Think about it. Steel, ceramic and carriers. I'm thinking about level III+. Thanks in advance.
https://www.reddit.com/r/QualityTacticalGear/wiki/armor
https://www.reddit.com/r/QualityTacticalGear/wiki/armor
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (UW2ZS)
380
Yep. The tipoff: the death rate is dropping, even as the incidence of cases continues to climb. (Notice all of the Reds now focus on CASES, not fatalities.)
I stopped checking the stats when the site I'd been using went belly up.
A few months later, I dug up the latest ones. The infection rate went to 4.5% from .07%.
But the number deaths had only increased by 10% over those several months. The only explanation is that testing reveals more positives, but deaths (the ultimate indicator) was steady or slowing.
More people aren't dying. We're just finding more people who are suffering little or no ill effects.
Yep. The tipoff: the death rate is dropping, even as the incidence of cases continues to climb. (Notice all of the Reds now focus on CASES, not fatalities.)
I stopped checking the stats when the site I'd been using went belly up.
A few months later, I dug up the latest ones. The infection rate went to 4.5% from .07%.
But the number deaths had only increased by 10% over those several months. The only explanation is that testing reveals more positives, but deaths (the ultimate indicator) was steady or slowing.
More people aren't dying. We're just finding more people who are suffering little or no ill effects.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (oVJmc)
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>>>360 ace, may we please have a happy thread and maybe one under it so the people who want to keep yelling at each other may do so while the rest of us discuss guns and boobs and otters in the Happy Fun Thread.
okay i will.
okay i will.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
382
Anyone have a good place to learn about body armor? Think about it. Steel, ceramic and carriers. I'm thinking about level III+. Thanks in advance.
Posted by: Archer
Old phone books & duct tape
Posted by: Archer
Old phone books & duct tape
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (Izzlo)
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Dear Patriot,
If Democrats win the 2 Georgia runoffs, they will do unGodly things. Among them pass bills that open up millions of jobs to foreign workers at the expense of Americans. Won't you please send $20, $50, $100 or $500 today to help us stop this?
Love,
GOP
If Democrats win the 2 Georgia runoffs, they will do unGodly things. Among them pass bills that open up millions of jobs to foreign workers at the expense of Americans. Won't you please send $20, $50, $100 or $500 today to help us stop this?
Love,
GOP
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (22mNy)
384
Biden needs a taste tester. Rumour is that Kamala has hired Littlefinger as her master of Whispers
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (aENAX)
385
Lee could not take the floor, be recognized, and have this passed by himself. Doesn't work that way, not even close.
Majority leader or deputy, or designee, moves to new business. A senator can't just grab the wheel, move to new business, and have a vote on it. There are no votes of any kind taken on the floor, without all senators being advised of it. There is no blind-siding or surprise otter legislating.
This was done with consent, or at direction, of leadership.
This is almost implausibly outrageous, but probably pretty revealing. The GOP has the measure of its voters.
Majority leader or deputy, or designee, moves to new business. A senator can't just grab the wheel, move to new business, and have a vote on it. There are no votes of any kind taken on the floor, without all senators being advised of it. There is no blind-siding or surprise otter legislating.
This was done with consent, or at direction, of leadership.
This is almost implausibly outrageous, but probably pretty revealing. The GOP has the measure of its voters.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (OTzUX)
386
The fact that Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Stanford, and the rest of the usual suspects are not piles of rubble right now speaks volumes about who your Overlords are. Time to cut the strings from the Puppet Masters.
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (R1LMN)
387
Hard to blame ordinary people with families and hopes for the future for not wanting to burn the world down. So long as most people have food in the refrigerator etc., I don't think anyone has anything to fear from the right. Not doomerism; I just think that's how things work. Compare Antifa goons, who are apparently 25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Except that those Ordinary people are the ones who are outraged and protesting. They finally get it. We are political junkies who saw this a loooong time ago. But now the ordinary people who just want to live their lives without the political noise and have their voice heard with their vote, are realizing that they are being silenced. And they know exactly who to blame. I don't think this genie is going back in the bottle. And I think the grifters in the Republican party are going to be surprised.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Except that those Ordinary people are the ones who are outraged and protesting. They finally get it. We are political junkies who saw this a loooong time ago. But now the ordinary people who just want to live their lives without the political noise and have their voice heard with their vote, are realizing that they are being silenced. And they know exactly who to blame. I don't think this genie is going back in the bottle. And I think the grifters in the Republican party are going to be surprised.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (Vxu+H)
388
360 ace, may we please have a happy thread and maybe one under it so the people who want to keep yelling at each other may do so while the rest of us discuss guns and boobs and otters in the Happy Fun Thread.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria
pretty please with sugar on top?
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria
pretty please with sugar on top?
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (W2Pud)
389
I would also like a guns, boobs and what was after boobs? I got distracted...
SPIDERS. HAPPY HAPPY SPIDERS.
SPIDERS. HAPPY HAPPY SPIDERS.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (H5knJ)
390
I would also like a guns, boobs and what was after boobs? I got distracted...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at Decembe
my luv tunnel of course
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at Decembe
my luv tunnel of course
Posted by: Sandra Fluke at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (GIeIM)
391
Why is every single MI state rep look like they are playing pretend student government in high school?
I have almost zero faith in that group of fags to do anything requiring resolve.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (SScvq)
The GOPe would surrender to the French.
I have almost zero faith in that group of fags to do anything requiring resolve.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (SScvq)
The GOPe would surrender to the French.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (Ksrv6)
392
"269
230 What is wrong with Loeffler and Perdue. Are they fucking idiots? The
could have safely voted against the Mike Lee open border bill, and not
effected the outcome. Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a
runoff
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
Perhaps they need to signal to the vote stuffers that they are down
with the system more than to "voters", whose votes don't actually mean
much of anything?
Posted by: Bete at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (Ojki1)"
Last I heard yesterday someone was going on about Loeffler putting several million dollars in Dominion related stock, so I'm not sure what anyone is expecting of them other than cuckery.
230 What is wrong with Loeffler and Perdue. Are they fucking idiots? The
could have safely voted against the Mike Lee open border bill, and not
effected the outcome. Now they piss off consevative voters in GA before a
runoff
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:41 PM (aENAX)
Perhaps they need to signal to the vote stuffers that they are down
with the system more than to "voters", whose votes don't actually mean
much of anything?
Posted by: Bete at December 04, 2020 02:47 PM (Ojki1)"
Last I heard yesterday someone was going on about Loeffler putting several million dollars in Dominion related stock, so I'm not sure what anyone is expecting of them other than cuckery.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (EEVQU)
393
I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
394
My son is 23 and got an IT degree. While a student he worked in IT for the college. His boss said he wish he could have hired him.
Son is looking for an IT job in the midwest. You would think any company would snap up a graduate with a great work ethic and work experience. You could think that, and you would be wrong.
Son is looking for an IT job in the midwest. You would think any company would snap up a graduate with a great work ethic and work experience. You could think that, and you would be wrong.
Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (YwPJG)
395
LA County Sheriff Says Department Won't Enforce Governor's Stay at Home Orders
Good.
h/t legal insurrection
I read that you aren't even allowed out on foot, scooters, bikes, etc.
Newsom has snapped. He is just plain mad.
Good.
h/t legal insurrection
I read that you aren't even allowed out on foot, scooters, bikes, etc.
Newsom has snapped. He is just plain mad.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (sfhL4)
396
We need an update , clue or idea from ace about TopGun II. ace is usually up on this Hollywood movie stuff. If movie theaters are dead, going the way of the dinosaur let my final movie experience at a theater be TopGun II.
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (0jZnq)
397
Huge Lodge fan. Not very expensive, and I think they're the only cast iron cookware manufacturer still based in the US.
But, alas, as much as I love cast iron, it's not the ideal for everything. Plus it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to both clean and store properly. Enamel and Stainless Steel cookware also have their time and place.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Lodge has an enameled line.
But, alas, as much as I love cast iron, it's not the ideal for everything. Plus it can be a bit of a pain in the ass to both clean and store properly. Enamel and Stainless Steel cookware also have their time and place.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Lodge has an enameled line.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (SMh/7)
398
Third party is not an option. We need a hostile takeover of the GOP.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
How ? Let's do some math and some history, shall we.
The Tea Party Wave installed somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the GOP majority that took a pretty good House majority. How did that work out ? The GOP Leadership isolated them, assimilated who they could, and shit canned the rest. The GOP Leadership is not interested in huge majorities that they can't control.
So we pushed Trump over the line. How did that work out ? The GOP House majority laid down - literally. Over forty GOP CongressDouches walked away from the best paying no show job they'd ever had in their lives. Why ? Oh - spare me the shit about committee seats and such. They walked away because the GOP said so. Paul Ryan led the failure theater.
Taking over the GOP can't happen. It really can't. You'd have to elect a majority of insurrectionists in the House - and still maintain a Party majority. That's at least 125 or so, all at once. And you have to elect a President against their will as well. Oh - and you have to blow up the Senate - because they only allow one third of their body to be elected at a time.
Nobody is taking over the GOP - because the GOP does not give a fuck about winning or losing. They'll gladly lose, if that's what it takes to keep control of their party. Keep going out there and voting for them to win. They don't care. They really don't give two shits.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at December 04, 2020 02:51 PM (4tiP2)
How ? Let's do some math and some history, shall we.
The Tea Party Wave installed somewhere between 1/4 and 1/3 of the GOP majority that took a pretty good House majority. How did that work out ? The GOP Leadership isolated them, assimilated who they could, and shit canned the rest. The GOP Leadership is not interested in huge majorities that they can't control.
So we pushed Trump over the line. How did that work out ? The GOP House majority laid down - literally. Over forty GOP CongressDouches walked away from the best paying no show job they'd ever had in their lives. Why ? Oh - spare me the shit about committee seats and such. They walked away because the GOP said so. Paul Ryan led the failure theater.
Taking over the GOP can't happen. It really can't. You'd have to elect a majority of insurrectionists in the House - and still maintain a Party majority. That's at least 125 or so, all at once. And you have to elect a President against their will as well. Oh - and you have to blow up the Senate - because they only allow one third of their body to be elected at a time.
Nobody is taking over the GOP - because the GOP does not give a fuck about winning or losing. They'll gladly lose, if that's what it takes to keep control of their party. Keep going out there and voting for them to win. They don't care. They really don't give two shits.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (rkCLP)
399
360-I second a happy thread, even though I'm one of the few people here not interested in boobs.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (WkPC9)
400
okay i will.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
THANK YOU!
*flamethrows bear with asymmetrical balls*
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
THANK YOU!
*flamethrows bear with asymmetrical balls*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (GbPPJ)
401
393 I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
One of the things to laugh about in California. The Hispanics will have their own leaders in a decade or two, screw the wokeists.
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
One of the things to laugh about in California. The Hispanics will have their own leaders in a decade or two, screw the wokeists.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (Zm+LZ)
402
396 We need an update , clue or idea from ace about TopGun II. ace is usually up on this Hollywood movie stuff. If movie theaters are dead, going the way of the dinosaur let my final movie experience at a theater be TopGun II.
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (0jZnq)
=========
Last I saw is that it's still on hold, waiting for a new release date.
With the new thing being giving new big budget movies some sort of streaming release, I imagine news will come of Paramount releasing Top Gun II on Paramount+ or something.
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (0jZnq)
=========
Last I saw is that it's still on hold, waiting for a new release date.
With the new thing being giving new big budget movies some sort of streaming release, I imagine news will come of Paramount releasing Top Gun II on Paramount+ or something.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (LvTSG)
403
My opinion, do our best to keep control of the Senate. Once that is done and we have President Trump doing his 2nd term we start weeding out those that work against America's interest. Obviously PeePee from Utah should be ejected.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (uyKdz)
Posted by: nurse ratched at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (W2Pud)
405
381 >>>360 ace, may we please have a happy thread and maybe one under it so the people who want to keep yelling at each other may do so while the rest of us discuss guns and boobs and otters in the Happy Fun Thread.
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okay i will.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
If one doesn't want to deal with all the bickering and arguing, just pick out the same names of the same people who seem to say the same damn things on every frickin' thread, day after day, and skip over them.
Skipping past comments is tight!
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okay i will.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
Actually it's super easy, barely an inconvenience.
If one doesn't want to deal with all the bickering and arguing, just pick out the same names of the same people who seem to say the same damn things on every frickin' thread, day after day, and skip over them.
Skipping past comments is tight!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (hku12)
406
Barr, in September, went on Fake News CNN and detailed several ways to cheat with Mail-In ballots. All of it happened. It happened exactly the way he said it could happen.
(It's on youtube)
Barr, in September, went on Fake News CNN and detailed several ways to cheat with Mail-In ballots. All of it happened. It happened exactly the way he said it could happen.
(It's on youtube)
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (6vHcr)
407
I'm just about at the point where I want all these
Republican traitors like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs
to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
I'd take that Indian woman (second one) at the Michigan hearing the other night over Lee any day of the week. She sounded like a fighter.
Republican traitors like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs
to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
I'd take that Indian woman (second one) at the Michigan hearing the other night over Lee any day of the week. She sounded like a fighter.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (Ksrv6)
408
393
I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors
like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
Rule by competent foreigners is always preferable to rule by native traitors
Even *modestly* competent foreigners.
(But one does grow restless under such a rule.)
I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors
like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
Rule by competent foreigners is always preferable to rule by native traitors
Even *modestly* competent foreigners.
(But one does grow restless under such a rule.)
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (Eg9+v)
409
The defending national champion LSU Tigers are 29.5-point underdogs to Alabama for tomorrow's game.
Yeesh.
Yeesh.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (sWM8x)
410
400 okay i will.
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
THANK YOU!
*flamethrows bear with asymmetrical balls*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (GbPPJ)
"Be free little spider" *Tosses it into the air*
Posted by: ace at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (nuqdl)
THANK YOU!
*flamethrows bear with asymmetrical balls*
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (GbPPJ)
"Be free little spider" *Tosses it into the air*
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (Zm+LZ)
411
389
I would also like a guns, boobs and what was after boobs? I got distracted...
SPIDERS. HAPPY HAPPY SPIDERS.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (H5knJ)
Don't forget critters being flushed out of people's ears...
https://tinyurl.com/y5n3mmdx
I would also like a guns, boobs and what was after boobs? I got distracted...
SPIDERS. HAPPY HAPPY SPIDERS.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (H5knJ)
Don't forget critters being flushed out of people's ears...
https://tinyurl.com/y5n3mmdx
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (ynpvh)
412
Of course, it might be that deaths from heart disease are rung up as Covid deaths, too. Maybe Dominion is branching out into actuarial statistics.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (lA5kl)
I've mentioned this before, but it's often difficult to ascertain the exact reason for death, especially with elderly people.
Lady comes in to the ER, very sickly, has diabetes, cancer, Alzheimer's, a history of heart issues, and some kind of respiratory problem. And she's on dozens of medications.
Dies in the hospital.
What do you put as cause of death? Even if you do an autopsy (which would not typically be done in that kind of scenario), how do you determine what finally killed her?
Was it the cancer? The diabetes? The Alzheimer's? The cold / flu / covid? A heart attack?
Historically, doctors would usually just say she died from some kind of heart failure, since that is technically true (that is how we measure death, after all).
I suspect that, recently, all of those deaths have been put down as "covid" with the comorbidities listed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 03:01 PM (lA5kl)
I've mentioned this before, but it's often difficult to ascertain the exact reason for death, especially with elderly people.
Lady comes in to the ER, very sickly, has diabetes, cancer, Alzheimer's, a history of heart issues, and some kind of respiratory problem. And she's on dozens of medications.
Dies in the hospital.
What do you put as cause of death? Even if you do an autopsy (which would not typically be done in that kind of scenario), how do you determine what finally killed her?
Was it the cancer? The diabetes? The Alzheimer's? The cold / flu / covid? A heart attack?
Historically, doctors would usually just say she died from some kind of heart failure, since that is technically true (that is how we measure death, after all).
I suspect that, recently, all of those deaths have been put down as "covid" with the comorbidities listed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (UPoLF)
413
aaaand Fox radio news top of hour was some shit about Biden
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (GIeIM)
Posted by: Hands - H1 get 1 at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (786Ro)
415
ace, may we please have a happy thread and maybe one under it so the people who want to keep yelling at each other may do so while the rest of us discuss guns and boobs and otters in the Happy Fun Thread.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria
pretty please with sugar on top?
Posted by: nurse ratched
We need a prepper thread more than anything now.
Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria
pretty please with sugar on top?
Posted by: nurse ratched
We need a prepper thread more than anything now.
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (SMh/7)
416
Lot of interesting YouTube vids on homemade body armor. A lot that actually do the job.
Whatever you do, do NOT buy AR 500 or AR 550 steel and strap that on.
Bullets that hit flat steel will splatter and fly really quickly parallel to the face of the plate. In practical terms, that means a plate on your chest will send some shrapnel right into the soft spot of your neck under your jaw.
Whatever you do, do NOT buy AR 500 or AR 550 steel and strap that on.
Bullets that hit flat steel will splatter and fly really quickly parallel to the face of the plate. In practical terms, that means a plate on your chest will send some shrapnel right into the soft spot of your neck under your jaw.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (UW2ZS)
417
Greetings from Uganda Georgia. If you could send $100. i can pay the shipping fee for 10,000,000 ballots that will be worth billions.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (yTRuK)
418
Total number of deaths per week is about the same as all other years.
They are paying MORE to hospitals if you die of Covid.
So, no.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (d9rwJ)
The Reds: 200,000 people have died!
CDC: typically 7-8000 people, depending on time of year (out of 330 million), die every day.
Lessee, this shit started in what, February? From 1 Feb to today is 307 days.
7000 deaths/day * 307 days = 214,900 deaths.
They are paying MORE to hospitals if you die of Covid.
So, no.
Posted by: Romeo13 at December 04, 2020 02:59 PM (d9rwJ)
The Reds: 200,000 people have died!
CDC: typically 7-8000 people, depending on time of year (out of 330 million), die every day.
Lessee, this shit started in what, February? From 1 Feb to today is 307 days.
7000 deaths/day * 307 days = 214,900 deaths.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (lA5kl)
419
408 393
I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors
like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
Rule by competent foreigners is always preferable to rule by native traitors
Even *modestly* competent foreigners.
(But one does grow restless under such a rule.)
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (Eg9+v)
Yeah our elite are pretty crappy by any metric.
I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors
like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Posted by: Lady in Black at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (O+I8R)
Rule by competent foreigners is always preferable to rule by native traitors
Even *modestly* competent foreigners.
(But one does grow restless under such a rule.)
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (Eg9+v)
Yeah our elite are pretty crappy by any metric.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (Zm+LZ)
420
Ahhh... I see biden is gonna have a covid czar. The czar is back baby!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (r+sAi)
421
@415 rickb223-I agree
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (0jZnq)
422
The fact that Hollywood lacks smoldering craters tells you who your overlords are. Same for financial institutions, Big Tech, corporations, ect...
Posted by: bat nationalist at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (R1LMN)
423
The defending national champion LSU Tigers are 29.5-point underdogs to Alabama for tomorrow's game.
Yeesh.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (sWM8x)
If only they had a female kicker
Yeesh.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (sWM8x)
If only they had a female kicker
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (Ksrv6)
424
403
My opinion, do our best to keep control of the Senate. Once that is done
and we have President Trump doing his 2nd term we start weeding out
those that work against America's interest. Obviously PeePee from Utah
should be ejected.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (uyKdz)
The more this continues the more I hope for a literal warpath, not a figurative one. Call me a fascist, but murum aries attigit.
My opinion, do our best to keep control of the Senate. Once that is done
and we have President Trump doing his 2nd term we start weeding out
those that work against America's interest. Obviously PeePee from Utah
should be ejected.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at December 04, 2020 03:05 PM (uyKdz)
The more this continues the more I hope for a literal warpath, not a figurative one. Call me a fascist, but murum aries attigit.
Posted by: Radio Control Ready For Action at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (Eg9+v)
425
Remember Lindsey Graham fist bumping Harris?
I read that as fist humping. Ugh
Posted by: Hands
You put your right fist in
You pull your right fist out
You put your right fist in
And shake it all about
I read that as fist humping. Ugh
Posted by: Hands
You put your right fist in
You pull your right fist out
You put your right fist in
And shake it all about
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (SMh/7)
426
"387
Hard to blame ordinary people with families and hopes for the future for
not wanting to burn the world down. So long as most people have food in
the refrigerator etc., I don't think anyone has anything to fear from
the right. Not doomerism; I just think that's how things work. Compare
Antifa goons, who are apparently 25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Except that those Ordinary people are the ones who are outraged and
protesting. They finally get it. We are political junkies who saw this a
loooong time ago. But now the ordinary people who just want to live
their lives without the political noise and have their voice heard with
their vote, are realizing that they are being silenced. And they know
exactly who to blame. I don't think this genie is going back in the
bottle. And I think the grifters in the Republican party are going to be
surprised.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (Vxu+H)"
The hopes and dreams and families is why you invest the time, effort (make no mistake, it's a big effort) and money to keep food on the table for 6-24 months without outside help.
That's what lets you burn it down when that's what needs to happen.
Hard to blame ordinary people with families and hopes for the future for
not wanting to burn the world down. So long as most people have food in
the refrigerator etc., I don't think anyone has anything to fear from
the right. Not doomerism; I just think that's how things work. Compare
Antifa goons, who are apparently 25% mentally ill trannies.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls
Except that those Ordinary people are the ones who are outraged and
protesting. They finally get it. We are political junkies who saw this a
loooong time ago. But now the ordinary people who just want to live
their lives without the political noise and have their voice heard with
their vote, are realizing that they are being silenced. And they know
exactly who to blame. I don't think this genie is going back in the
bottle. And I think the grifters in the Republican party are going to be
surprised.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at December 04, 2020 03:02 PM (Vxu+H)"
The hopes and dreams and families is why you invest the time, effort (make no mistake, it's a big effort) and money to keep food on the table for 6-24 months without outside help.
That's what lets you burn it down when that's what needs to happen.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (EEVQU)
427
394 My son is 23 and got an IT degree. While a student he worked in IT for the college. His boss said he wish he could have hired him.
Son is looking for an IT job in the midwest. You would think any company would snap up a graduate with a great work ethic and work experience. You could think that, and you would be wrong.
Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (YwPJG)
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CS degrees are pretty useless these days unless they're from MIT or Stanford. It's really a two tier system. You have MIT, Stanford grads getting $125K a year starting salaries. Then you have H1Bs making 1/2 that much. Not much in the middle. And not much for State U grads in the midwest.
Son is looking for an IT job in the midwest. You would think any company would snap up a graduate with a great work ethic and work experience. You could think that, and you would be wrong.
Posted by: Delurk Ergo Sum at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (YwPJG)
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CS degrees are pretty useless these days unless they're from MIT or Stanford. It's really a two tier system. You have MIT, Stanford grads getting $125K a year starting salaries. Then you have H1Bs making 1/2 that much. Not much in the middle. And not much for State U grads in the midwest.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (22mNy)
428
Except that those Ordinary people are the ones who are outraged and protesting.
They're protesting. But protesting is meaningless; if it did things, the Tea Party would have produced results, but it didn't. See also the prolife movement, which has been marching for a long time. Civil disobedience that results in arrests and prosecutions, or mob violence, might produce results. I get how they at least could (without really being a fan of either). But protests? I just don't see how they change the world. Maybe I'm wrong.
They're protesting. But protesting is meaningless; if it did things, the Tea Party would have produced results, but it didn't. See also the prolife movement, which has been marching for a long time. Civil disobedience that results in arrests and prosecutions, or mob violence, might produce results. I get how they at least could (without really being a fan of either). But protests? I just don't see how they change the world. Maybe I'm wrong.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (H5knJ)
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Australians Banned From Australian Island Bought by Chinese Developer
A Chinese developer bought an Australian Island and banned Australians from the area, including barring residents from their homes.
Residents say they can't go back to their homes since developer China Bloom bought a 99-year lease to take control of Keswick Island in 2019.
"I just don't think they want Australians on the island," former island resident Julie Willis told the news program "A Current Affair." "I think that they want to have this island solely for the use of the Chinese tourism market."
The Chinese developer has gone as far as banning residents from renting their homes on Airbnb, which residents say has ruined tourism, and blocking them from entering the island from air, land and sea.
It also appears that Australians are being deterred from purchasing property on the island as well.
and we laughed when Trump talked of Greenland.
https://tinyurl.com/y5d56wj8
only Trump had the guts to confront them
our taxpayer dollars, buying up Aussie property and slamming down the communist control
A Chinese developer bought an Australian Island and banned Australians from the area, including barring residents from their homes.
Residents say they can't go back to their homes since developer China Bloom bought a 99-year lease to take control of Keswick Island in 2019.
"I just don't think they want Australians on the island," former island resident Julie Willis told the news program "A Current Affair." "I think that they want to have this island solely for the use of the Chinese tourism market."
The Chinese developer has gone as far as banning residents from renting their homes on Airbnb, which residents say has ruined tourism, and blocking them from entering the island from air, land and sea.
It also appears that Australians are being deterred from purchasing property on the island as well.
and we laughed when Trump talked of Greenland.
https://tinyurl.com/y5d56wj8
only Trump had the guts to confront them
our taxpayer dollars, buying up Aussie property and slamming down the communist control
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (sfhL4)
430
Nobody is taking over the GOP - because the GOP does not give a fuck about winning or losing. They'll gladly lose, if that's what it takes to keep control of their party. Keep going out there and voting for them to win. They don't care. They really don't give two shits.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (rkCLP)
If the Democrat Steal is prevented, it might kick off their own party split.
When they go down, there will never be a better time to replace the GOP.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (rkCLP)
If the Democrat Steal is prevented, it might kick off their own party split.
When they go down, there will never be a better time to replace the GOP.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (MBidn)
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (so+NG)
432
You know, I used to be bothered by the fact that the world's greatest deliberative clowns how included a stolen Valor poseur. And an actual whore. And a serial plagiarism (but he got promoted). And a vapid, race hustling, grifter/closeted homo (he got promoted too). Then a "bisexual" tu-tu wearing, pink-haired spanking. Ahh...the elite.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (3a40t)
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What do you put as cause of death? Even if you do an autopsy (which would not typically be done in that kind of scenario), how do you determine what finally killed her?
Was it the cancer? The diabetes? The Alzheimer's? The cold / flu / covid? A heart attack?
Historically, doctors would usually just say she died from some kind of heart failure, since that is technically true (that is how we measure death, after all).
I suspect that, recently, all of those deaths have been put down as "covid" with the comorbidities listed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (UPoLF)
"What do you put as cause of death?"
Whichever condition pays the hospital the most.
Was it the cancer? The diabetes? The Alzheimer's? The cold / flu / covid? A heart attack?
Historically, doctors would usually just say she died from some kind of heart failure, since that is technically true (that is how we measure death, after all).
I suspect that, recently, all of those deaths have been put down as "covid" with the comorbidities listed.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (UPoLF)
"What do you put as cause of death?"
Whichever condition pays the hospital the most.
Posted by: Hands (but no gloves and no mask) at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (786Ro)
434
I'm just about at the point where I want all these Republican traitors
like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Our old elite shit their pants on the Senate floor.
The Indians will just shit on the floor.
like Mike Lee to be ousted by Indians carrying H1Bs to take over their lucrative jobs of pure graft. Could Indians be any worse??
Our old elite shit their pants on the Senate floor.
The Indians will just shit on the floor.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (zI9dG)
435
To your second question, I don't think we can do all of this from the outside. From what I've heard, Dominion makes you sign a contract that says you don't get to audit their code, just trust us. And yes, that contract is insane.
As to the penetration testing part, there are at least 12 known attack vectors that white hat hackers have published regarding their machines.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (UW2ZS)
Thank you for the info about the banking software.
The Dominion "turn-key" set-up is outrageous. Dominion could easily set up a user's systems to pass a validation test, then produce a skewed result on election day. Simply have one subroutine for testing, and one for the election. A Dominion employee tells the system which subroutine to run.
What a mess.
As to the penetration testing part, there are at least 12 known attack vectors that white hat hackers have published regarding their machines.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 02:56 PM (UW2ZS)
Thank you for the info about the banking software.
The Dominion "turn-key" set-up is outrageous. Dominion could easily set up a user's systems to pass a validation test, then produce a skewed result on election day. Simply have one subroutine for testing, and one for the election. A Dominion employee tells the system which subroutine to run.
What a mess.
Posted by: Gref at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (AMIL/)
436
348 If Joe Bidet is inaugurated any and all enlisted service personnel should seriously consider leaving the Armed Forces when their current enlistment expires.
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Or immediately since without a legitimate Commander in Chief, the entire military is similarly illegitimate.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM
When the Biden economy hits, I don't think people will want to be quitting jobs with reliable pay and benefits. Tough to make symbolic stands when you have a family relying on you for income.
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Or immediately since without a legitimate Commander in Chief, the entire military is similarly illegitimate.
Posted by: Methos at December 04, 2020 02:57 PM
When the Biden economy hits, I don't think people will want to be quitting jobs with reliable pay and benefits. Tough to make symbolic stands when you have a family relying on you for income.
Posted by: Grimmy at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (lOtJl)
437
I recommend a best of thread . Lists are always fun and tell you a lot about people.
Last meal
Favorite all time movie
Top three inventions
Last meal
Favorite all time movie
Top three inventions
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (m/vQu)
438
The GOPe would surrender to the French.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (Ksrv6)
Sockray Blue!
No no no, mon swore, we surrender furst!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at December 04, 2020 03:03 PM (Ksrv6)
Sockray Blue!
No no no, mon swore, we surrender furst!
Posted by: Le Fraunch at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (hku12)
439
Nood open thread
Posted by: hogmartin at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (t+qrx)
440
Philippine police on Friday threatened to cane people who violate social distancing protocols as the Southeast Asian nation fights the spread of the coronavirus during the festive season.
Philippine police on Friday threatened to cane people who violate social distancing protocols as the Southeast Asian nation fights the spread of the coronavirus during the festive season.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (63Dwl)
441
425
Remember Lindsey Graham fist bumping Harris?
I read that as fist humping. Ugh
Posted by: Hands
You put your right fist in
You pull your right fist out
You put your right fist in
And shake it all about
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (SMh/7)
That's not what it all about...Ugh.
Remember Lindsey Graham fist bumping Harris?
I read that as fist humping. Ugh
Posted by: Hands
You put your right fist in
You pull your right fist out
You put your right fist in
And shake it all about
Posted by: rickb223 at December 04, 2020 03:07 PM (SMh/7)
That's not what it all about...Ugh.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (ynpvh)
442
Its good for me to get this rage out but a mental brake is good for the mind.
Posted by: Skip at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (9sWOw)
443
Damn autocorrect is killing me!
Posted by: Farmer Bob at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (3a40t)
444
They don't care. They really don't give two shits.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (rkCLP)
________
They care about the gelt they pull in. What business would tolerate the cost/benefit ratio the GOP has?
They don't care. They really don't give two shits.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:04 PM (rkCLP)
________
They care about the gelt they pull in. What business would tolerate the cost/benefit ratio the GOP has?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (mht8P)
445
@393 Lady in Black-If they're all like Dinesh D'souza I'd be all for it.
Posted by: JROD at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (0jZnq)
Posted by: will choose a nic later at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (GIeIM)
447
nood, no arguing
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (UPoLF)
448
A PRIORI TROLL !
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (Y8GVo)
449
I know we all like big tits, but if you need a freight company to carry them...
engrish.com/2020/12/milk-delivery/
engrish.com/2020/12/milk-delivery/
Posted by: josephistan at December 04, 2020 03:09 PM (Izzlo)
450
illiniwek,
According to the EO, DNI, and AG among others are supposed to report back in 45 days on any foreign interference after the election which is pretty close to being up, we are also looking at a government shutdown Dec 11th for which PDT has no immediate elections going forward.
According to the EO, DNI, and AG among others are supposed to report back in 45 days on any foreign interference after the election which is pretty close to being up, we are also looking at a government shutdown Dec 11th for which PDT has no immediate elections going forward.
Posted by: whig at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (pO7gM)
451
It's impossible to even find any news accounts of the immigration bill. All I could find was Indian news sources. And they are celebrating like it's their 4th of July.
Posted by: Asshoes at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (22mNy)
452
We need the MAGA PARTY to wipe out the Rs and take a chunk of the not-crazy D's.
If that slimeball Cornholio runs again in 6 effing years, I may be forced to attempt to primary his backstabbing ass.
Instead of gutting the Rs, taking over with the MAGA FACTION is a viable option. It would take several cycles, but the existing GOPeeeeeeeeeunuch class will have to be purged.
If that slimeball Cornholio runs again in 6 effing years, I may be forced to attempt to primary his backstabbing ass.
Instead of gutting the Rs, taking over with the MAGA FACTION is a viable option. It would take several cycles, but the existing GOPeeeeeeeeeunuch class will have to be purged.
Posted by: Bonecrusher at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (LjCCL)
453
310 At least Kemp is a goner, as is Ducey
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (aENAX)
Tank will win the Gov and then GA will get the government/tyranny it well and truly deserves.
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (aENAX)
Tank will win the Gov and then GA will get the government/tyranny it well and truly deserves.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (SScvq)
454
I just contacted my Senator suggesting that he go straight to hell for 40 years of the Republican establishment's betrayal of their conservative constituents.
Posted by: Ladyl at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (TdMsT)
455
I'm in GA. at this point i'm voting for a two useless senators.
They'll probably steal this one too, but really who cares. The GOPe has no sense of self preservation when it comes to fighting with the Dems. Yeah they'll go to the mattresses against us populist and interlopers but the uniparty is one big happy family (the left knows that too, why do you think they're so bitter).
Kemp's up in 2022 so we're going to need to collect his head.
i'm not sure if anything is going to stop them for reformatting the world into the corporate neo-feudal future they're aiming for short of actual civil war.
They'll probably steal this one too, but really who cares. The GOPe has no sense of self preservation when it comes to fighting with the Dems. Yeah they'll go to the mattresses against us populist and interlopers but the uniparty is one big happy family (the left knows that too, why do you think they're so bitter).
Kemp's up in 2022 so we're going to need to collect his head.
i'm not sure if anything is going to stop them for reformatting the world into the corporate neo-feudal future they're aiming for short of actual civil war.
Posted by: Iron-Wombat at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (BRnXm)
456
453
310 At least Kemp is a goner, as is Ducey
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (aENAX)
Tank will win the Gov and then GA will get the government/tyranny it well and truly deserves.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (SScvq)
Welcome to hell. Here's your acordion.
310 At least Kemp is a goner, as is Ducey
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 02:52 PM (aENAX)
Tank will win the Gov and then GA will get the government/tyranny it well and truly deserves.
Posted by: Eli Cash at December 04, 2020 03:10 PM (SScvq)
Welcome to hell. Here's your acordion.
Posted by: jim at December 04, 2020 03:11 PM (ynpvh)
457
"I just don't think they want Australians on the island," former
island resident Julie Willis told the news program "A Current Affair."
"I think that they want to have this island solely for the use of the
Chinese tourism market."
Fuck 'em. Any of you had the pleasure of working with a Brit or Aussie lately ? I have. Fuck 'em.
island resident Julie Willis told the news program "A Current Affair."
"I think that they want to have this island solely for the use of the
Chinese tourism market."
Fuck 'em. Any of you had the pleasure of working with a Brit or Aussie lately ? I have. Fuck 'em.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:11 PM (rkCLP)
458
I recommend a best of thread . Lists are always fun and tell you a lot about people.
Last meal
Favorite all time movie
Top three inventions
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (m/vQu)
1. Smelly fraunch hooer.
2. Smelly fraunch hooer moovee.
3. Smelly fraunch hooers, moovees, ze cigarettes, and ze beret.
So you said three, I gave you four, American swine.
Last meal
Favorite all time movie
Top three inventions
Posted by: Mr. Meeseeks, Look at me at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (m/vQu)
1. Smelly fraunch hooer.
2. Smelly fraunch hooer moovee.
3. Smelly fraunch hooers, moovees, ze cigarettes, and ze beret.
So you said three, I gave you four, American swine.
Posted by: Le Fraunch at December 04, 2020 03:11 PM (hku12)
459
165
160 Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm reticent about believing all the Dominion stuff, but this sort of stuff is really not a great look.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (LvTSG)
It was Dominion's RFP proposal (not contract), the redactions were for employee addresses and this happened two weeks ago.
160 Colorado SOS caught deleting dominion software contract from website, then re-loading it with redactions.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at December 04, 2020 02:31 PM (r+sAi)
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I'm reticent about believing all the Dominion stuff, but this sort of stuff is really not a great look.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, catching up on stuff I've bought recently at December 04, 2020 02:33 PM (LvTSG)
It was Dominion's RFP proposal (not contract), the redactions were for employee addresses and this happened two weeks ago.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at December 04, 2020 03:11 PM (CQ3Qb)
460
I saw this last night on Tucker's show. which I enjoy watching even though his employer etc. is a Lib.
My last employer was a flaming Lib and she knew I was a staunch conservative. We even had heated arguments about politics, but I was a hard worker and she respected that.
I use to have FNC on all the time. Now I only will support the conservative shows their because I enjoy them and don't feel like punishing
them because of their employer. I'd rather punish the other shows on FNC.
I am trying to get into watching Newsmax, but it kind of bores me. I wish they would revamp the format, but it's probably due to their budget.
My last employer was a flaming Lib and she knew I was a staunch conservative. We even had heated arguments about politics, but I was a hard worker and she respected that.
I use to have FNC on all the time. Now I only will support the conservative shows their because I enjoy them and don't feel like punishing
them because of their employer. I'd rather punish the other shows on FNC.
I am trying to get into watching Newsmax, but it kind of bores me. I wish they would revamp the format, but it's probably due to their budget.
Posted by: redridinghood at December 04, 2020 03:12 PM (NpAcC)
461
noooood
Posted by: Flinkin at December 04, 2020 03:12 PM (so+NG)
462
"Fast" Eddie Vrdolyak, a long time Chicago alderman and all around crook gets 18 months in the slam for tax fraud. You or I would get 50 years but hey, this is Crook County. At least it's something, he's 82 so hopefully it's a life sentence.
Posted by: dartist at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (+ya+t)
463
On H1B's I'm in the trenches here and maybe someone can clue me in.
I'm a SW manager in Silicon Valley and I'm trying to hire a computer vision or machine learning person. So far I've gotten over 130 resumes and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
I'm a SW manager in Silicon Valley and I'm trying to hire a computer vision or machine learning person. So far I've gotten over 130 resumes and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)
464
I was reading on the HQ
Things were getting kinda tense
Send otters, guns, and boobies
For my sanity's defense!
Things were getting kinda tense
Send otters, guns, and boobies
For my sanity's defense!
Posted by: Brother Tim (@BrotherTimMTG on Parler) at December 04, 2020 03:14 PM (OUMaO)
465
When they go down, there will never be a better time to replace the GOP.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (MBidn)
You, sir, are a troll. A Priori - whatever that means. By context, I guess it means By Definition. You are a troll by definition. Shame, Shame, Shame.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at December 04, 2020 03:08 PM (MBidn)
You, sir, are a troll. A Priori - whatever that means. By context, I guess it means By Definition. You are a troll by definition. Shame, Shame, Shame.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:14 PM (rkCLP)
466
"416
Lot of interesting YouTube vids on homemade body armor. A lot that actually do the job.
Whatever you do, do NOT buy AR 500 or AR 550 steel and strap that on.
Bullets that hit flat steel will splatter and fly really quickly
parallel to the face of the plate. In practical terms, that means a
plate on your chest will send some shrapnel right into the soft spot of
your neck under your jaw.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (UW2ZS)"
Decent deals on non-Chinesium, non steel plates would be the Hesco L210 or Highcom 4sas7, depending on whether or not you need intermediate rifle round or full power/AP protection, respectively. $360-420 or so for a set.
The UHMWPE composite level III plates (rigid Dyneema/Spectra) are nice and light, and often fairly cheap, but the level III spec is for multi-hit .308, and these will fail spectacularly against green tip 5.56 or any newer variant.
Steel at level III, aside from spalling, gets defeated by 55gr 5.56 at high muzzle velocities.
Your other options are Chinesium plates from places like Botach (spit!), or LA Police Gear. You have to shop carefully to get Chinese ceramic that doesn't have a "cheat ring" around the edge of the strike face; they cut costs and weight by skimping on the outer 0.5-1" and giving you a smaller real plate in the shape of a bigger plate.
Soft armor that will work against buckshot and most pistol rounds, and is lighter than plates while offering more coverage, can be had for $250-300 if you shop around carefully. Avoid Zylon, Dyneema, Twaron, and fancy flexible laminates; get straight Kevlar aramid.
Lot of interesting YouTube vids on homemade body armor. A lot that actually do the job.
Whatever you do, do NOT buy AR 500 or AR 550 steel and strap that on.
Bullets that hit flat steel will splatter and fly really quickly
parallel to the face of the plate. In practical terms, that means a
plate on your chest will send some shrapnel right into the soft spot of
your neck under your jaw.
Posted by: bonhomme at December 04, 2020 03:06 PM (UW2ZS)"
Decent deals on non-Chinesium, non steel plates would be the Hesco L210 or Highcom 4sas7, depending on whether or not you need intermediate rifle round or full power/AP protection, respectively. $360-420 or so for a set.
The UHMWPE composite level III plates (rigid Dyneema/Spectra) are nice and light, and often fairly cheap, but the level III spec is for multi-hit .308, and these will fail spectacularly against green tip 5.56 or any newer variant.
Steel at level III, aside from spalling, gets defeated by 55gr 5.56 at high muzzle velocities.
Your other options are Chinesium plates from places like Botach (spit!), or LA Police Gear. You have to shop carefully to get Chinese ceramic that doesn't have a "cheat ring" around the edge of the strike face; they cut costs and weight by skimping on the outer 0.5-1" and giving you a smaller real plate in the shape of a bigger plate.
Soft armor that will work against buckshot and most pistol rounds, and is lighter than plates while offering more coverage, can be had for $250-300 if you shop around carefully. Avoid Zylon, Dyneema, Twaron, and fancy flexible laminates; get straight Kevlar aramid.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 04, 2020 03:15 PM (EEVQU)
467
I'm a SW manager in Silicon Valley and I'm trying to
hire a computer vision or machine learning person.
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)
Good luck. Are you trying to do general flaw detection ?
My favorite trick - back in the day - was to take ten samples off the line and put them in the middle of the table. Then make everybody answer - in secret - which where good and which were rejects. Because if they answer out loud, they'll all figure out how the big dick swinger in the room - the boss - is right. Fvck that.
Spoiler Alert - if you peeps can't agree - I can't program this damn COGNEX system to agree either.
hire a computer vision or machine learning person.
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)
Good luck. Are you trying to do general flaw detection ?
My favorite trick - back in the day - was to take ten samples off the line and put them in the middle of the table. Then make everybody answer - in secret - which where good and which were rejects. Because if they answer out loud, they'll all figure out how the big dick swinger in the room - the boss - is right. Fvck that.
Spoiler Alert - if you peeps can't agree - I can't program this damn COGNEX system to agree either.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at December 04, 2020 03:19 PM (rkCLP)
Posted by: Braenyard at December 04, 2020 03:19 PM (CZm2G)
469
I still cannot belive what a hole Arizona has become. Thank You McCain
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 03:20 PM (aENAX)
470
GOP would surrender to Napoleon, after Waterloo. Hitler after D-Day
Posted by: Jonah at December 04, 2020 03:24 PM (aENAX)
471
How come they didn't foresee 99% of our politicians and other ruling class members actively working as traitors against the interest of America and Americans, selling their and their progeny's souls, liberty, and birthright out for 30 pieces of Yuan?
They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (KZzsI)
Late to the party but Hamilton and Madison were adamant that the types of people making up the colonies gave us the best chance of it working here. Not in Canada and not in Mexico. Here.
The progs have been chipping away at that for at least a century.
They did. They knew it would happen, if people did not retain their virtue. They predicted it, repeatedly, if people were not honest, moral, and wise voters. They warned against it.
Posted by: Best-selling author-elect Christopher R Taylor at December 04, 2020 02:23 PM (KZzsI)
Late to the party but Hamilton and Madison were adamant that the types of people making up the colonies gave us the best chance of it working here. Not in Canada and not in Mexico. Here.
The progs have been chipping away at that for at least a century.
Posted by: Captain Hate at December 04, 2020 03:25 PM (y7DUB)
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On H1B's I'm in the trenches here and maybe someone can clue me in.
I'm a SW manager in Silicon Valley and I'm trying to hire a computer
vision or machine learning person. So far I've gotten over 130 resumes
and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from
India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born
applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of
us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some
local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)"
I'm going to come right out and say it plain: nativist or not, generally stay the hell away from Indian or Chinese H1B's. I've watched too many of the former destroy projects and too many of the latter be spectacularly untrustworthy. And I have watched both utterly ruin what were nice neighborhoods with either third world bullshit or a total lack of respect for other people.
I have worked with absolutely amazing people from both places and would work with those people again any day, but it's a long shot. Most of the imported tech labor is awful. It's cultural, and the good ones knowingly reject it.
You're not seeing as many US applicants for a number of reasons. Fewer students in STEM because they don't want to deal with SJW BS, fewer applicants to certain regions (CA?) because they don't want to go there, and fewer applicants to you in particular because they won't want to work with the H1B's or live near them.
On H1B's I'm in the trenches here and maybe someone can clue me in.
I'm a SW manager in Silicon Valley and I'm trying to hire a computer
vision or machine learning person. So far I've gotten over 130 resumes
and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from
India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born
applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of
us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some
local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)"
I'm going to come right out and say it plain: nativist or not, generally stay the hell away from Indian or Chinese H1B's. I've watched too many of the former destroy projects and too many of the latter be spectacularly untrustworthy. And I have watched both utterly ruin what were nice neighborhoods with either third world bullshit or a total lack of respect for other people.
I have worked with absolutely amazing people from both places and would work with those people again any day, but it's a long shot. Most of the imported tech labor is awful. It's cultural, and the good ones knowingly reject it.
You're not seeing as many US applicants for a number of reasons. Fewer students in STEM because they don't want to deal with SJW BS, fewer applicants to certain regions (CA?) because they don't want to go there, and fewer applicants to you in particular because they won't want to work with the H1B's or live near them.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at December 04, 2020 03:25 PM (EEVQU)
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I'm going to come right out and say it plain: nativist or not, generally stay the hell away from Indian or Chinese H1B's. I've watched too many of the former destroy projects and too many of the latter be spectacularly untrustworthy. And I have watched both utterly ruin what were nice neighborhoods with either third world bullshit or a total lack of respect for other people.
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No kidding. That has been my experience too. As a rule of thumb, do they not only not produce, it actually costs us more time and money to clean up or prevent the mess.
I see the same thing in my SV neighborhood. General lack of respect for property upkeep inside and out. I could go on and on.
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No kidding. That has been my experience too. As a rule of thumb, do they not only not produce, it actually costs us more time and money to clean up or prevent the mess.
I see the same thing in my SV neighborhood. General lack of respect for property upkeep inside and out. I could go on and on.
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:39 PM (a74KK)
474
So far I've gotten over 130 resumes
and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from
India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born
applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of
us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some
local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)"
First, stop playing by cuck rules and be a freakin' nativist. The reason you aren't seeing a lot is because the slime like the GOP are making it difficult for natives to get the jobs. They've stagnated the wages, made pre-college schooling horrendous, and then flooded colleges with foreigners. You know what is going to happen when one of those Indians or Chinese lead your team? They will purge anyone who isn't Chinese or Indian.
and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from
India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born
applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of
us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some
local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)"
First, stop playing by cuck rules and be a freakin' nativist. The reason you aren't seeing a lot is because the slime like the GOP are making it difficult for natives to get the jobs. They've stagnated the wages, made pre-college schooling horrendous, and then flooded colleges with foreigners. You know what is going to happen when one of those Indians or Chinese lead your team? They will purge anyone who isn't Chinese or Indian.
Posted by: WOPR - Tactically Dramatic is Failue at December 04, 2020 03:43 PM (J70i0)
475
Protectionism has to do with goods, not labor.
The reason being imported labor enjoys benefits of American society that that have a certain cost attached to it. The companies importing this labor don't pay this cost, American citizens do.
The reason being imported labor enjoys benefits of American society that that have a certain cost attached to it. The companies importing this labor don't pay this cost, American citizens do.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at December 04, 2020 03:52 PM (eMEkg)
476
474 So far I've gotten over 130 resumes
and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from
India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born
applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of
us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some
local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)"
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I know some in academia teaching IT. He says for some reason Nigerians are accepted into the program even though the positions are reserved for black Americans.
My theory if you are young and stupid and the government gives you free money to go to college are you going to take the hard stuff or easy stuff.
The government should eliminate loans to anything other that STEM
and I'd guess 60-70% are recent grads that recently came over from
India. Maybe another 20% are from China. Where are the US born
applicants? Are they not in the CS or EE programs?
And mind you I'm not a nativist. I have a team of 6 and only one of
us is a US native (and it's not me). I would just like to hire some
local talent and we aren't getting them. Where are they?
Posted by: StuckInCalifornia at December 04, 2020 03:13 PM (a74KK)"
-------
I know some in academia teaching IT. He says for some reason Nigerians are accepted into the program even though the positions are reserved for black Americans.
My theory if you are young and stupid and the government gives you free money to go to college are you going to take the hard stuff or easy stuff.
The government should eliminate loans to anything other that STEM
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at December 04, 2020 03:56 PM (eMEkg)
477
Ideally, there would be no H-1B visas.
Correction on one point: the national unemployment rate is currently 6.7%. That's no where near any historical peak. The employment-to-population ratio is, at 0.573, below the long-term average (which is about 0.60), but not unprecedented either.
Correction on one point: the national unemployment rate is currently 6.7%. That's no where near any historical peak. The employment-to-population ratio is, at 0.573, below the long-term average (which is about 0.60), but not unprecedented either.
Posted by: Art Deco at December 04, 2020 04:20 PM (1BrBu)
478
My takeaway from the whole "jobs to foreigners" thing is that the ruling class of this country intends to replace current Americans with a more compliant American.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (z79tQ)
Well, a lot of Americans are rotund junkies with AIDS so ...not really great employees . No doubt they make great commenters on civnat blogs but I suspect this is of limited economic use.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at December 04, 2020 02:54 PM (z79tQ)
Well, a lot of Americans are rotund junkies with AIDS so ...not really great employees . No doubt they make great commenters on civnat blogs but I suspect this is of limited economic use.
Posted by: neutral observer at December 04, 2020 04:40 PM (MNBOj)
479
Use Rumble.
Posted by: TSgtCiz at December 04, 2020 05:50 PM (af5xa)
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