Thanksgiving Salute to the Old Breed [KT]

Photo taken by someone defying travel avoidance guidelines
on the Central California Coast

The Long Read of the Week at American Digest is A Thanksgiving Toast To The Old Breed by Victor Davis Hanson. It is outstanding.

The late World War II combat veteran and memoirist E. B. Sledge enshrined his generation of fellow Marines as "The Old Breed" in his gripping account of the hellish battle of Okinawa. Now, most of those who fought in World War II are either dead or in their nineties.
Much has been written about the disappearance of these members of the Greatest Generation--there are now over 1,000 veterans passing away per day. Of the 16 million who at one time served in the American military during World War II, only about a half-million are still alive.

You can still hear some people from that generation talk about their lives on one of the best programs on radio, Hometown Heroes. Some of those vets sound just so remarkably competent, even in their nineties. If you have never heard an episode, you can catch one at the link. There is also a remarkable amount of history revealed in those programs.

Another beach photo:

Van der Leun picked up the VDH essay at Never Yet Melted. If you are in a philosophical mood today, there is a lot of interesting stuff over there. Ever thought about promoting AOC as Speaker to kill the Democratic Party? Did you know there was a propeller-powered car a hundred years ago? How about Scrooge as Environmentalist?

More beach photos from other rebellious travelers:

Cayucos:

Somewhere in Washington State:

Hope you have a good Thanksgiving Weekend.

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1 First elect

Posted by: Banned at November 28, 2020 11:17 AM (Dq6T8)

2 CA so many beautiful places. Very sad.

Posted by: runner at November 28, 2020 11:18 AM (zr5Kq)

3 California was cool until the late 1980s. That's when it started falling apart.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 28, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)

4 Top ten?

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 28, 2020 11:20 AM (+2xjH)

5 "rebellious travelers"

I like this a lot.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 11:21 AM (siY0G)

6 Ca has the shittiest people but the most beautiful scenery.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:21 AM (22mNy)

7 TOP. TEN.

Posted by: Captain Whitebread at November 28, 2020 11:21 AM (aommx)

8 Scrooge as environmentalist - if you really want to get under an enviro's skin, point out that the first nation in the world that dedicated itself to Environmental Protection and "green" energy policies was Nazi Germany. In the 30's, they set the template for all of the heavy handed enviro policies that followed. (they had a thing about Pristine Woodlands that should not be dirtied by those filthy people living in them)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2020 11:21 AM (V2Yro)

9 [11 comment rule]

Posted by: Insomniac at November 28, 2020 11:21 AM (nakwk)

10 California was cool until the late 1980s. That's when it started falling apart.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 28, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)

1849

Posted by: BignJames at November 28, 2020 11:21 AM (AwYPR)

11 The western United's States has some truly amazing places... and weirdos... but I'm starting to think there are less weirdos than we are led to believe.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 28, 2020 11:22 AM (+2xjH)

12 Brother texted last night from the Ferndale area of WA.
Someone called the cops on him for a large gathering.
He has been having a retired priest come to his house saying daily Mass and many others of his parish have been attending.

Let's see what Inslee has decided to ignore:
-free assembly
-free to worship

So much for the 1A in WA.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at November 28, 2020 11:22 AM (gtatv)

13 Who would have that Judas Priest would be the Thanksgiving album

Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2020 11:22 AM (M3kGN)

14 So much first hand history will soon be lost.

Posted by: BignJames at November 28, 2020 11:23 AM (AwYPR)

15 The western United's States has some truly amazing places... and weirdos... but I'm starting to think there are less weirdos than we are led to believe.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 28, 2020 11:22 AM (+2xjH)

^^This^^

And, the Central Coast is my favorite part of CA. It is beautiful, ask CaliGirl.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:24 AM (AiZBA)

16 Brother texted last night from the Ferndale area of WA.
Someone called the cops on him for a large gathering.
He has been having a retired priest come to his house saying daily Mass and many others of his parish have been attending.

Let's see what Inslee has decided to ignore:
-free assembly
-free to worship

So much for the 1A in WA.
Posted by: AZ deplorably

Immediately file an open record request for the complaint

Posted by: Jean at November 28, 2020 11:24 AM (M3kGN)

17 Okinawa was a much bigger amphibious assault than was D Day. It doesn't get distinguished for that since the Japs didn't attack the landing force .

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 11:24 AM (2DOZq)

18 3 California was cool until the late 1980s. That's when it started falling apart.
Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 28, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)
------------------------------------

That's about the time CA Supremes started overthrowing the electorate.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (CZm2G)

19 Was there anyone actually arrested or hassled by the popo for having too many people for dinner? We heard all the warnings but did any fascist guv or mayor follow through.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (22mNy)

20 I miss the beach

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (9sWOw)

21 "FIRST!"

Plus, I'm still waiting for my Top Secret POTUS briefing, since I'm a ALSO a self-declared President-Elect. And my GSA transition money, too!

Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at November 28, 2020 11:26 AM (hOOi9)

22 Huh. I was in Cayucos yesterday afternoon with my dad and his wife. Spent Thanksgiving with him and their friends in Pismo. Had a lot of fun hanging out with them.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2020 11:26 AM (uP2LR)

23 KT, great, as always.

But dammit, you outed one of my favorite places. Cayucos.

That's *very* low tide in that photo. The pier is not very high up over the water most of the time.

Right there is the location of my otter story (stop the snickering). The true one, about the otter mom and her pup, when she was diving down to the pilings to get dinner, and he was whining every time she did so. Then she'd come up, lie on her back, and crack the shell of the crustacean and feed him.

Cayucos is just north of Morro Bay, which is a nice very long beach walk from there. CA's central coast remains magical and quiet, and not much changed over the years, compared to most places.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:27 AM (OTzUX)

24 I have several gigabytes of photos from California's central coast when we lived near Monterey 2002-2013. Photos taken at all times of the year, sunrise, sunset, middle of the day, night, etc.

It is one of the most beautiful places I've ever seen.

Too bad it's in California.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at November 28, 2020 11:28 AM (3H9h1)

25 California was cool until the late 1980s. That's when it started falling apart.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 28, 2020 11:20 AM (JUOKG)

I don't know about that. I remember my father went to the LA area on temporary assignment for Lockheed in the early 70's and turned down a transfer there because he didn't want to raise a family there. I think it was the hippies who convinced him.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 11:28 AM (2DOZq)

26 Half moon bay is one of faves in Cali. And the Oregon coast is pretty awesome too.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:29 AM (22mNy)

27 19 Was there anyone actually arrested or hassled by the popo for having too many people for dinner? We heard all the warnings but did any fascist guv or mayor follow through.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (22mNy)

It's not that the governors and mayors didn't follow through; I fully believe they would've if they could've. But law enforcement at all levels refused to enforce in most areas.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 11:29 AM (H3MF8)

28 Kids, Santa has died from the covid this year. Mrs Claus too, and the elves. There was no one to feed Rudolph and the rest, so they died too. Merry Winter Holiday, comrade children!

Posted by: Commisar Biden at November 28, 2020 11:29 AM (r4sLu)

29 Gualala.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 11:29 AM (w7KSn)

30 Was there anyone actually arrested or hassled by the popo for having too many people for dinner? We heard all the warnings but did any fascist guv or mayor follow through.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (22mNy)

I just had my first encounter with a Kevin. We passed in a wide hallway. He was wearing a mask with his head turned toward the wall and his hand over his mask and said "not wearing a mask, huh?" I said "no sir". He mumbled some "witty" comeback and I said "Heil Gavin". It felt good.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:29 AM (AiZBA)

31 I've been to Cali a few times. My wife and I went in '94, IIRC. Her company convention was in SF. Even back then, you had walk through a literal gauntlet of beggars to get anywhere. They were/are complete pricks. I was still stunned at what a visual treat that city was. We rented a car and drove north up CA 1. We stopped in Mendocino, and really fell in love with that town. turned inland at Eureka, and I was, once again blown away by how remote N. CA is. We backpacked a section of the Pacific Crest Trail, and again, blown away by the classic Alpine scenery. Too bad it's permanently infected w/Socialism.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 28, 2020 11:30 AM (7Fj9P)

32 I kept telling people in Texas that California was the most beautiful state in the union. And that the only problem with California is that its full of Californians.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2020 11:30 AM (uP2LR)

33
Immediately file an open record request for the complaint
Posted by: Jean

Thank you. I alerted him to get the request in quickly.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at November 28, 2020 11:31 AM (gtatv)

34 >The western United's States has some truly amazing places... and weirdos...

Thank you

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 28, 2020 11:31 AM (iTXRQ)

35 Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'killin ain't hrd. It's not killin thets hrd' at November 28, 2020 11:01 AM (WekKK)
====================
Hey, if you're still around: pick up a Maglula loader if you don't have one already. Save your/your wife's thumbs.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 28, 2020 11:31 AM (7Fj9P)

36 30 Was there anyone actually arrested or hassled by the popo for having too many people for dinner? We heard all the warnings but did any fascist guv or mayor follow through.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (22mNy)

I just had my first encounter with a Kevin. We passed in a wide hallway. He was wearing a mask with his head turned toward the wall and his hand over his mask and said "not wearing a mask, huh?" I said "no sir". He mumbled some "witty" comeback and I said "Heil Gavin". It felt good.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:29 AM (AiZBA)

That doesn't sound like a Kevin; a Kevin is just a really dumb and clueless guy. I think male Karens are still called Karens.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 11:31 AM (H3MF8)

37 Morro Bay. Pismo Beach. Eureka. Carmel.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 11:32 AM (w7KSn)

38 >I think male Karens are still called Karens.

what about Stuart

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 28, 2020 11:32 AM (iTXRQ)

39 If you haven't read "With the Old Breed" by EB Sledge, please do. He fought on Pelelieu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. He tells how John Basilone gets killed on Iwo. He relates the horrors of the Pacific war quite well, and in detail.

Posted by: Old Blue - Deplorable Trump Chump at November 28, 2020 11:32 AM (VNmG1)

40 Thank you, KT.

I was lucky enough to spend twenty years with one of the "Old Breed". There don't seem to be many like that any more. Maybe that's why we are where we are.

Posted by: creeper at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (XxJt1)

41 Ferndale area of WA

I would fight that. People are just evil

In a past life I lived in Sumas. Loved going to the Holy Smoke.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (QoPXA)

42 You know how libs love to talk about being the 5th biggest economy on earth, proving that socialism works. Well TX is the 9th biggest. And Florida is Number 20. That always shuts them up quickly.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (22mNy)

43 Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:24 AM (AiZBA)

What cities in CA make up the central coast? I've only been there once, to Long Beach. Not great.

Posted by: clutch at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (9UmRs)

44 counting my dad and immediate aunts and uncles, I have seven that were in WW2 (plus an Army Corps of Engineers step-dad) ... most saw no direct combat. Only the youngest one of them is alive, my aunt is 98, became a nurse then. Patriotism was much deeper then it seems ... as were ties to family.

Being a WW2 vet did not immunize them all from becoming Democrats ... but since Trump and Reagan had been Democrat at one point, I can't really blame them for not seeing through the facade. GOPe also gave them plenty of reason to not be Republican ... and Mockingbird Media keeps everyone confused and distracted.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (Cus5s)

45
I miss the beach

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (9sWOw)

Its the one thing I would miss if I left jersey. Not that I actually go to the beach, but I'm just used to seeing the water.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 11:34 AM (9Om/r)

46 38 >I think male Karens are still called Karens.

what about Stuart
Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 28, 2020 11:32 AM (iTXRQ)

I'm not familiar with that term.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 11:34 AM (H3MF8)

47 "Too bad it's permanently infected w/Socialism."

I'm no longer certain of that, given recent revelations.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 11:34 AM (w7KSn)

48 He mumbled some "witty" comeback and I said "Heil Gavin". It felt good.
======================
Some one on here said a woman in his office building told him he really should be wearing a mask. He said, "You should really lose some weight".
I thought that was great.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at November 28, 2020 11:34 AM (7Fj9P)

49 Good morning Hordemates.

"With The Old Breed" is excellent.

And as for beaches, Washington State beaches suck this time of year.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 11:35 AM (E/U1b)

50 What cities in CA make up the central coast? I've only been there once, to Long Beach. Not great.
Posted by: clutch at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (9UmRs)

From north of Point Conception (the big bend in the coastline) up to Monterrey. Pretty much.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:35 AM (AiZBA)

51 Pelelieu

Decades ago the public was invited to tour the Pelelieu at dock. When an old guy mentioned he had fought there, the crew honored him with a personal tour not available to the general public, tickled to have him. Got dusty in there.

Posted by: Banned at November 28, 2020 11:36 AM (r4sLu)

52 Is Santa Barbara considered central CA? That is a hell of a cool town. Ocean on one side wineries on the other.

Also a male Karen is a Ken I believe.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:37 AM (22mNy)

53 38-I prefer calling male Karens Ken, like the anatomically deficient Barbie doll.

Posted by: Rusty at November 28, 2020 11:37 AM (+SloN)

54 Don't think Sledge was at Iwo.

And should know, but don't, whether Okinawa amphibious operation was larger than D-Day, but I don't think so (in terms of landed personnel). Big, though, and unopposed landings.

Saipan was within a few days of D-Day, literally on the other side of the world, and was not just a massive operation, but obviously conducted thousands of miles from friendly territory - not just 20+ miles, across the Channel. Making that juxtaposition a handy, and awesome, illustration of the logistical and operational power of the US (primarily) in the last year of WWII.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:38 AM (OTzUX)

55 38 >I think male Karens are still called Karens.

what about Stuart
Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 28, 2020 11:32 AM (iTXRQ)

What about Dickless Coward ?

Posted by: jsg at November 28, 2020 11:39 AM (L+crX)

56 Thanks to the Greatest Generation.

Thanks Dad!
From his diary this day in 1944:

Nov 28. 1944
Another cloudy, wet day. Visibility would clear for a few minutes, then close down again. Observers were unable to adjust on many targets.
3 Div took over Strassbourg from II DB who then started south on all available road nets from the Rhine west. 103 pushed nearly to the valley. They met CCA of the 14th Armd Div at Barr. 36th Div took Liepvre and continued east with small gains.
XV Corps and 1st Fr Army met stiff resistance in their sectors and did not move much. The Germans shelled Belfort quite heavily.
Bombers and fighters over Germany shot down 94 planes in their raids today. So far we have had little air activity in this sector.
I took several snaps of the Cathedral here in Mutzig. Also took pictures of two little French boys. Names: Maurice Holbeck and Gundar Seibach.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (m45I2)

57 I'm here.

Good morning. Just started to get caught up with the coffee thread and you were all gone!

Anyone else feeling the after holiday let down? I am now on figuring out Hanukkah presents for all grandkids, mine and my sister's, knowing that I won't see any open them in person.
When I was a kid, we had huge family gatherings and there was a huge pile of gifts...nothing big and expensive but we lit the candles and ate latkes.
Now it is just Amazon and lucky if I see a thank you note.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (sd8p8)

58 Is Santa Barbara considered central CA? That is a hell of a cool town. Ocean on one side wineries on the other.

Also a male Karen is a Ken I believe.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:37 AM (22mNy)

Arguably, Santa Barbara could be central coast but, while very beautiful, it is pretty much a peoples republic.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (AiZBA)

59 There are a few Kens where I work. They are tiresome. I do not care for their unsolicited advice.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (iTXRQ)

60 When I was a kid becoming a teen in the 60's, California really was the Golden State. Industry, technology, aerospace and manufacturing. Beautiful weather, beautiful beaches, beautiful women. It was the most dynamic state in the Union and it was really the place to be. Then the hippies moved in and rurnt it.

Posted by: Old Blue - Deplorable Trump Chump at November 28, 2020 11:41 AM (VNmG1)

61 Asilomar Beach near Pacific Grove, CA.

Check it out.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Now a Pirate, Hoisting the Black Flag at November 28, 2020 11:41 AM (3H9h1)

62 Tonight at "friends' Thanksgiving" we'll be drinking the last of some fine pinot I came into thanks to my late USMC WWII vet friend who was on the list of the very exclusive winery.

Have spoken of him here before. Enlisted in November 1941 - "timing is everything" - and was getting basic rifle training at Camp Matthews (now UC San Diego and a hospital complex, mostly) on December 7. He was a classic of the generation, really lived the life, during and after the war.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

63 The girls on the beach
Are all within reach
If you know what to do.

-- Brian Wilson

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 11:41 AM (4I/2K)

64 52 Is Santa Barbara considered central CA? That is a hell of a cool town. Ocean on one side wineries on the other.

Also a male Karen is a Ken I believe.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:37 AM (22mNy)

That might be correct. I haven't seen it in use, but I'm only sort of up-to-date on some newfangled slang terms.

I would've guessed that a Ken is a dickless man, like the famously smooth-groined doll, but that would've just been a guess.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 11:41 AM (H3MF8)

65 1000 Veterans passing away per day?

Clear proof that Military Service and Old Age, will kill you.

Just like Corona and Old Age, will kill you.

We must shut down the Military, and make civilians wear masks, to save our aged Veterans.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2020 11:42 AM (d9rwJ)

66 I knew a guy who had been on Okinawa. Said he had been there... I think, maybe there's a record of this somewhere that could verify... he said his Army unit had been there for some time BEFORE the Marines showed up.

He was injured not long after and shipped out, but when I last spoke to him maybe 3-4 years ago, he was still bitter about the Marines having gotten all the glory.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 11:42 AM (hku12)

67 Bannon is not his usual upbeat self in the War Room today. The pedes at The Donald are freaking out a bit.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 11:42 AM (siY0G)

68 58 Is Santa Barbara considered central CA? That is a hell of a cool town. Ocean on one side wineries on the other.

Also a male Karen is a Ken I believe.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:37 AM (22mNy)

Arguably, Santa Barbara could be central coast but, while very beautiful, it is pretty much a peoples republic.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (AiZBA)

Also, have you watched Psych? That place is ridiculously dangerous! People get murdered there constantly!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 11:43 AM (H3MF8)

69 Muldoon, thanks as always for that. Sounds like your dad was in Alsace at the time, though I don't know that particular town.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:43 AM (OTzUX)

70 I have spoken with some old timers about growing up in Cali in the 50s and 60s. They way they describe it it sounds like heaven. All of them no longer live there having escaped in the past 10 to 20 years.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 11:43 AM (22mNy)

71 Posted by: Muldoon at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (m45I2)

How I envy you that diary, Muldoon. It is a priceless gift.

Posted by: creeper at November 28, 2020 11:43 AM (XxJt1)

72 We're having a party tonight. Giving out gifts playing Bingo and my own invention, Shots and Ladders with Patron Silver.

Let the rabble cower, we are living life.

Posted by: jsg at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (L+crX)

73 I would've guessed that a Ken is a dickless man, like the famously smooth-groined doll, but that would've just been a guess.
+++++

Seems appropriate.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (sd8p8)

74 Central CA cities, San Luis Obispo, Paso Robles, Gaviota

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (w7KSn)

75 1000 Veterans passing away per day?

Clear proof that Military Service and Old Age, will kill you.

Just like Corona and Old Age, will kill you.

We must shut down the Military, and make civilians wear masks, to save our aged Veterans.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2020 11:42 AM (d9rwJ)

Nice snark, but I bet that 1000 number is outdated.

Just simple math, the fewer of these guys that are left, the fewer of them who die each day. Maybe it was a thousand some years ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)

76 Okinawa (and Saipan) were both operations with Army and Marines. Iwo was Marines.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (OTzUX)

77 56 Thanks to the Greatest Generation.

Thanks Dad!
From his diary this day in 1944:

Nov 28. 1944
Another cloudy, wet day. Visibility would clear for a few minutes, then close down again. Observers were unable to adjust on many targets.
3 Div took over Strassbourg from II DB who then started south on all available road nets from the Rhine west. 103 pushed nearly to the valley. They met CCA of the 14th Armd Div at Barr. 36th Div took Liepvre and continued east with small gains.
XV Corps and 1st Fr Army met stiff resistance in their sectors and did not move much. The Germans shelled Belfort quite heavily.
Bombers and fighters over Germany shot down 94 planes in their raids today. So far we have had little air activity in this sector.
I took several snaps of the Cathedral here in Mutzig. Also took pictures of two little French boys. Names: Maurice Holbeck and Gundar Seibach.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 28, 2020 11:40 AM (m45I2)

Awesome. Salute, Sir.

Posted by: jsg at November 28, 2020 11:45 AM (L+crX)

78 Lovely photos! Just returned from walking the dog on a New England beach. We're supposed to wear masks at all times outdoors, but almost all I see are half-a$$ing it best - if mask, then mask around neck.

One of the good walking spots. . .https://tinyurl.com/y36mol39

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2020 11:45 AM (bDqIh)

79 The Marines and the Army both landed on Okinawa at roughly the same time. The Marine units moved north and encountered little resistance. The Army units moved south and ran right into the Shuri line. It took a while for the Marine units to be moved back south.

Posted by: Old Blue - Deplorable Trump Chump at November 28, 2020 11:46 AM (VNmG1)

80 62
Tonight at "friends' Thanksgiving" we'll be drinking the last of some
fine pinot I came into thanks to my late USMC WWII vet friend who was on
the list of the very exclusive winery.

Have spoken of him here before. Enlisted in November 1941 - "timing
is everything" - and was getting basic rifle training at Camp Matthews
(now UC San Diego and a hospital complex, mostly) on December 7. He was
a classic of the generation, really lived the life, during and after
the war.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:41 AM (OTzUX)

Sounds like a tontine, rhomoid. Have a great time remembering him.

Posted by: creeper at November 28, 2020 11:46 AM (XxJt1)

81 A friend of mine from Ohio was stationed in CA. He once said that it is the most beautiful place on earth. If it wasn't full of Californians, he'd live there. I've heard similar comments like this over the years. No offense to native Cali morons.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM (Th9ez)

82 Kids don't want to do Christmas this year. It's not the wuhan, not sure what it is. Not a happy camper. Already decided I will get some gifts and make them a pan of lasagna. Maybe things will change between now and then.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM (QoPXA)

83 I've posted before about how big a fan I am of the show Aerial America on the Smithsonian Channel. California and other west coast area states are indeed beautiful as well as New England, specifically Vermont, NH and Maine.

Admittedly the least geographically attractive state shown was Texas. That said , I wouldn't leave Texas as currently it is the most philosophical attractive state to me. Unfortunately I don't know how long this will last.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM (2DOZq)

84 I've always considered Santa Barbara the border of the southern CA, just not sure which side it's on. But everything north, to whatever the furthest southern exurb of the Bay Area is now, is central coast.

Hard to define abstractly, easy to define in real life, by being there. The feel changes quite noticeably. Santa Barbara was glorious before it became too wealthy and popular with the uninteresting/toxic "elites" of this era. Pretty sleepy. I think this was last true in the early to mid 80s.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM (OTzUX)

85 Nice snark, but I bet that 1000 number is outdated.

Just simple math, the fewer of these guys that are left, the fewer of them who die each day. Maybe it was a thousand some years ago.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)

Very true. Dad enlisted at the tail end of WW2, as soon as he was old enough, and would have been 94 now.

Making a Vet who was old enough to enlist at the beginning of the war, like 98? 99?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2020 11:48 AM (d9rwJ)

86 Hope you have a good Thanksgiving Weekend.

This is the Thread before the Gardening Thread.

Thanks !

And I wish the same to you and yourn, KT !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 11:48 AM (arJlL)

87 16 Brother texted last night from the Ferndale area of WA.
Someone called the cops on him for a large gathering.
He has been having a retired priest come to his house saying daily Mass and many others of his parish have been attending.

Let's see what Inslee has decided to ignore:
-free assembly
-free to worship

So much for the 1A in WA.
Posted by: AZ deplorably

Huh, Ferndale is way north of Seattle, north of Bellingham, which is where Western WA University is located, and probably the second most liberal area outside of the Nation of CHAZ/CHOP.
Guess it only takes one Karen to ruin everyone else's day.

In the last week, I've had a lot of trouble sleeping on a regular schedule. Been up about 28 hours now, and wired, but not tired. Between the fake ballots nonsense and the Covid nonsense, I just can't unwind enough to snooze. Our government wants to hurt us, I'm now convinced. Not just ignore us, but actually hurt us.
Inslee is truly an evil bastard from hell.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 11:49 AM (sy5kK)

88 [11 comment rule]
Posted by: Insomniac

LOL !!!

Well done, old friend !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 11:50 AM (arJlL)

89 Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM (OTzUX)

For me? Southern Calif. starts at the top of the Grapevine.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2020 11:50 AM (d9rwJ)

90 "If you haven't read "With the Old Breed" by EB Sledge, please do. He
fought on Pelelieu, Iwo Jima, and Okinawa. He tells how John Basilone
gets killed on Iwo. He relates the horrors of the Pacific war quite
well, and in detail."

Sledge's book is a classic. Having read it, it amazes me that anyone who took part in Pacific combat came home sane.

Two other equally good book on the subject Pacific combat are William Manchester's "Goodbye Darkness", which describes his combat experience on Okinawa; and James Jones' "WWII", which describes his experience on Guadalacanal. The latter book is especially good because it was the catalogue for an exhibition of combat art from both theaters, and Jones's discussion of the artists and their work is enlightening.

Manchester's book is still in print. A version of Jones's is in print, but without the art images or commentary. Copies of the original edition of "WWII", from the mid-1970s, are available on alibris.com.

Posted by: Brown Line at November 28, 2020 11:51 AM (S6ArX)

91 >>I've posted before about how big a fan I am of the show Aerial America on the Smithsonian Channel. California and other west coast area states are indeed beautiful as well as New England, specifically Vermont, NH and Maine.

That's a great show -- America really is beautiful in all sorts of ways.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2020 11:52 AM (bDqIh)

92 "Southern Calif. starts at the top of the Grapevine."

That makes sense, it is a natural summit, or watershed.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 11:52 AM (w7KSn)

93 A friend of mine from Ohio was stationed in CA. He
once said that it is the most beautiful place on earth. If it wasn't
full of Californians, he'd live there. I've heard similar comments like
this over the years. No offense to native Cali morons.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM

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I was stationed at NAS lemore, it was a beautiful place. Close enough to drive to the Big City (Fresno) if you wanted to and close enough to the mountains for a weekend getaway.

Too bad it is in California.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 28, 2020 11:52 AM (JUOKG)

94 26 Half moon bay is one of faves in Cali. And the Oregon coast is pretty awesome too.
Posted by: Asshoes

I still want to go to Bandon Dunes Golf Resort some day.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2020 11:52 AM (Th9ez)

95 21 Plus, I'm still waiting for my Top Secret POTUS briefing, since I'm a ALSO a self-declared President-Elect. And my GSA transition money, too!

need to check with kamala harris; i heard she's handing them out like candy

Posted by: Anachronda at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (5br8a)

96 Brother texted last night from the Ferndale area of WA.

Someone called the cops on him for a large gathering.

He has been having a retired priest come to his house saying daily Mass and many others of his parish have been attending.

Let's see what Inslee has decided to ignore:

-free assembly

-free to worship

So much for the 1A in WA.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at November 28, 2020 11:22 AM (gtatv)

Did your brother tell the cops to get right the fuck off of his property and come back with a warrant if they could show a LAW was broken? Cause no politician has the right to tell him who he can have in his home.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (946rW)

97 @67...what's got Bannon down? The 3rd circuit ruling?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (evxBY)

98 32 I kept telling people in Texas that California was the most beautiful state in the union. And that the only problem with California is that its full of Californians.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 28, 2020 11:30 AM (uP2LR)

Freedom is more beautiful than slavery.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (V2Yro)

99 "remarkably competent"--what an apt description of a role model (my Dad) that is.
Remarkably so in all things he did.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (KATBx)

100 Don't think Sledge was at Iwo.

And should know, but don't, whether Okinawa amphibious operation was larger than D-Day, but I don't think so (in terms of landed personnel). Big, though, and unopposed landings.

Saipan was within a few days of D-Day, literally on the other side of the world, and was not just a massive operation, but obviously conducted thousands of miles from friendly territory - not just 20+ miles, across the Channel. Making that juxtaposition a handy, and awesome, illustration of the logistical and operational power of the US (primarily) in the last year of WWII.
Posted by: rhomboid

Anna Puma would know.

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 11:54 AM (arJlL)

101 Sympathies with Sharon and Infidel re: Christmas. My sibs have instigated the no gifts idea for a few years, and not that I'm greedy about "stuff" but it was always fun to shop. My son has happily jumped on that bandwagon as well. So I spend days decorating and fussing and then they come for one evening and we sit around and eat. On actual Christmas they go to the in-laws and I'm by myself. Luckily I'm introvert, heh. But not as much fun as when my parents were still alive, just a few years ago.

Posted by: skywch at November 28, 2020 11:55 AM (Y/Ps0)

102 To be 18 years old in 1941, a person would have been born in 1923 or earlier. So 97 years old.

How many 97 year olds are still with us?

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 28, 2020 11:55 AM (oGBso)

103 Never read With The Old Breed, I know I would like it alot

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 11:55 AM (9sWOw)

104 Did your brother tell the cops to get right the fuck off of his property and come back with a warrant if they could show a LAW was broken? Cause no politician has the right to tell him who he can have in his home.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (946rW)

Bingo!

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 11:56 AM (AiZBA)

105 Texas' diverse geographic beauty grows on you.

Just like kolaches grow your waistline.

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 11:56 AM (4I/2K)

106 @90...Jones' "Thin Red Line" is probably the best novel about WWIi Pacific theater. I think the, let us say, impressionistic movie by Terence Malick has hurt the book's reputation. It shouldn't though.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 11:56 AM (evxBY)

107 Back in the 70's my BNL was stationed at Ft Ord (Near Monterey) after his second tour in Vietnam. Went down from school (Go Cougs) over Christmas to visit. Ord has two golf courses. Beautiful views of the Bay. Still there too.
And no matter what the putt looks like, the ball will always...ALWAYS break towards the water.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 11:57 AM (axyOa)

108 That doesn't sound like a Kevin; a Kevin is just a really dumb and clueless guy. I think male Karens are still called Karens.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 11:31 AM (H3MF

At least he wasn't Todd.

Posted by: Occupier of the President-Elect Office Deplorable Ian Galt at November 28, 2020 11:57 AM (ufFY8)

109 The Marines and the Army both landed on Okinawa at roughly the same time. The Marine units moved north and encountered little resistance. The Army units moved south and ran right into the Shuri line. It took a while for the Marine units to be moved back south.
Posted by: Old Blue - Deplorable Trump Chump at November 28, 2020 11:46 AM (VNmG1)

Thanks, that sounds like it would track pretty well with what my old friend was saying. Presumably when they brought Marine units back to his area, they looked comparatively fresh, and he just assumed they were coming from a nice vacation somewhere else, rather than another part of the island.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 11:57 AM (hku12)

110 Never read With The Old Breed, I know I would like it alot
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 11:55 AM (9sWOw)

It is my favorite of the Pacific Theater memoirs. But I also really like Robert Leckie's Helmet for My Pillow.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at November 28, 2020 11:58 AM (x8Wzq)

111 97 @67...what's got Bannon down? The 3rd circuit ruling?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (evxBY)

Everyone watching this is having their ups and downs these days, it's like being in combat when the outcome is in doubt. This was discussed in the last thread a bit, well it comes up in every thread. I have come to accept that it's going to take a true Miracle for Trump (and us) to pull this one out; on the other hand, I believe Miracles happen every day, and Trump's win in 2016 was a miracle, too. But this is a time when Faith counts for far more than reason.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (V2Yro)

112 Dick Blumenthal stormed Omaha Beach and went on to liberate Auschwitz single handed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

113 Great photos, really lightened my mood. Photography was something I loved in my 20s. It and I have come a long way since the 70s; time to be reacquainted.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (HCeRP)

114 Never read With The Old Breed, I know I would like it alot
Posted by: Skip

!

Yes, you would.

BIGLY !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (arJlL)

115
Saipan was within a few days of D-Day, literally on the other side of the world, and was not just a massive operation, but obviously conducted thousands of miles from friendly territory - not just 20+ miles, across the Channel. Making that juxtaposition a handy, and awesome, illustration of the logistical and operational power of the US (primarily) in the last year of WWII.

Posted by: rhomboid

Dan Carlin's current Hardcore History series, Supernova in the East addresses the similarities & differences between Saipan & D-Day

IIRC, it's in episode 5 of that series

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (bORq3)

116 112

Just like Obamas grandfather.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:00 PM (22mNy)

117 My family has mostly drifted out of giving actual gifts too. I hate shopping but there is something lost with not having the unwrapping fun even with only adults.

I used to buy toys for Angel tree etc. but drifted out of that too, especially as Toys for Tots and Salv. Army went to "we'd prefer you just order something from this online vendor," oh and the vender is going to charge you through the nose for shipping, well that was the case the one year I did that for SA. I was so steamed that when I had messed up my CC# and it didn't go through I just closed the page.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:01 PM (NOk+L)

118 Two Army divisions were formed and were training in amphibious operations, in the San Luis Obispo area, slated to be part of Operation Olympic (invasion of Kyushu). After the Bulge, and the ensuing mild panic about the ETO, they were sent off to Europe.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:02 PM (OTzUX)

119 My Great Uncle served in the Pacific in the Army Air Corp working on aircraft , hopping island to island as they set up air fields. He wrote a 20 page summary of his service days for me when he was 90.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 12:02 PM (2DOZq)

120 I still want to go to Bandon Dunes Golf Resort some day.
Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2020 11:52 AM (Th9ez)

It's a fun course.
Take mosquito repellent.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 12:02 PM (axyOa)

121 Every year I tell my in-laws please I beg you do not go crazy with gifts. My kids have everything they want and need nothing. Every year they say ok. And every year we end up with 30 gifts under the tree from them. It really pisses me off.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:03 PM (22mNy)

122 Bannon has the SDNY persecution hanging over him. I imagine that is always in the back of his mind. Those odious creeps are evil.

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:03 PM (DsGxB)

123 joe spunt, a "reporter", on fox "news" just now: "in fact, joe biden is the president-elect and will be sworn into office in january."

Posted by: Anachronda at November 28, 2020 12:04 PM (5br8a)

124 Bannon is not his usual upbeat self in the War Room today. The pedes at The Donald are freaking out a bit.

Posted by: deplorable unperson at November 28, 2020 11:42 AM (siY0G)

Why I wonder? The law suits are going as well as can be expected or better than expected.

Are they worried a state court win in PA would moot the federal suit? I do not think it will given the larger issues.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:04 PM (946rW)

125 Nice snark, but I bet that 1000 number is outdated.

Just simple math, the fewer of these guys that are left, the fewer of them who die each day. Maybe it was a thousand some years ago.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)

Very true. Dad enlisted at the tail end of WW2, as soon as he was old enough, and would have been 94 now.

Making a Vet who was old enough to enlist at the beginning of the war, like 98? 99?
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 28, 2020 11:48 AM (d9rwJ)

I have an uncle who died earlier this year. He was in the shit, on a battleship in the Pacific. Not sure when he enlisted, but probably fairly early in the war.

He's the reason my dad never saw combat. My dad was one of those guys who enlisted in '44, before he was really old enough, and he spent his time in the Atlantic. His older brother was one of those guys who would talk your ear off about everything else, but never once that I recall talked about his military service. I don't even think my dad really knew.

Only real clue we had was a framed award type certificate that had been at my grandmother's home when she died. This thing just basically spelled out that my uncle was on THIS ship, deployed at THIS time in the Pacific.

That was over 40 years ago though, so when I saw the plaque, its significance was mostly lost on a young whippersnapper like me. No idea where it is now.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)

126 97 @67...what's got Bannon down? The 3rd circuit ruling?
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (evxBY)

IDK, Bannon is ok, maybe a little tired. After all, he has been doing two, 2-hour shows every day, and also a TG live show.

Also, from TGP, seems like good news from a PA judge:

BREAKING REPORT: Judge Patricia A. McCullough rules that PA preliminary ELECTION CERTIFICATION injunction was PROPERLY ISSUED and should be upheld..

"Additionally, Petitioners appear to have established a
likelihood to succeed."
8:19 PM � Nov 27, 2020

TGP says this gives the green light for the PA legislature to do their Constitutional duty.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:04 PM (sy5kK)

127
joe spunt, a "reporter", on fox "news" just now: "in fact, joe biden is
the president-elect and will be sworn into office in january."

Posted by: Anachronda at November 28, 2020 12:04 PM (5br8a)

Daily affirmations from the corrupt and retarded.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (946rW)

128 @111..."But this is a time when Faith counts for much more than reason."

I get your point, morale is important, but don't agree. Reason alone prevents a Biden installation. Any argument for Biden as victor is, at this point, irrational.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (evxBY)

129 The joy is in the giving. Shopping for, finding, and wrapping that special present for that special person.

Why deny the giver their joy?

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (4I/2K)

130 I've posted before about how big a fan I am of the show Aerial America on the Smithsonian Channel. California and other west coast area states are indeed beautiful as well as New England, specifically Vermont, NH and Maine.

That's a great show -- America really is beautiful in all sorts of ways.
Posted by: Lizzy

Back in the early 90's Boston's PBS station did a show called Over New England. A fly over of all 6 New England states.

Okinawa: Dad drove an Army tank on Okinawa. He never talked about it other than his buddies explored a cave at one point and he stopped talking.

Posted by: Beartooth at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (6yYEv)

131 How many 97 year olds are still with us?

Not sure but know a record number of them voted in Pa this year

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (9sWOw)

132 Last year we tried something new for Christmas presents, we had the whole family together with the grandkids. Instead of gifts among the adults, we just did stocking stuffers + a yankee swap for ornaments. It was fun to see the variety (we did no jokey ones) and they are a reminder of the family reunion (since we're spread out) that can be used every year going forward.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2020 12:06 PM (bDqIh)

133 Every year I tell my in-laws please I beg you do not
go crazy with gifts. My kids have everything they want and need
nothing. Every year they say ok. And every year we end up with 30 gifts
under the tree from them. It really pisses me off.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:03 PM (22mNy)

Cut them a break. Grandparents are allowed to spoil the grandkids.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:06 PM (946rW)

134 Friend at 2nd T-giving dinner tonight, his father was drafted in March '45, when the "manpower crisis" panic really hit, and the draft call was *doubled*. He was a young father, had thus been previously exempt. Amphibious tank training at Ft. Knox. One of those who was told their life expectancy, if in the first wave ashore in Japan, could be brief.

He never left the States. Some eccentric geniuses in New Mexico helped make sure he didn't have to.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:06 PM (OTzUX)

135 Stopped for fuel, lunch and beer in small central calif town san miguel. Bar/grill/poolroom had hand lettered sign on cardboard pinned to wall next to pool table: "do not throw sticks when you lose". Circa 1978.

Posted by: Banned at November 28, 2020 12:07 PM (3cWJ8)

136 121: Ask them to do an Angel tree, or buy some toys for TfT and only do 1/3 of the usual toys to your kids.

Its fun to buy toys so you'll have zero luck trying to just shut that down but you might be able to redirect some of the stuff to one of the charity groups.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:07 PM (NOk+L)

137

LeftCoast Dawgs,
Just watched Steve Turley talking about the McCullough ruling.
Anyone know Dr Turley's "track record?"

Posted by: TeeJ at November 28, 2020 12:07 PM (p/F+I)

138
I can highly recommend the YouTube channel "Memoirs of World War 2."

They are recording short 10 minute films of combat vets recalling their experiences.

Many are quite moving.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2020 12:07 PM (s2VJv)

139 Are they worried a state court win in PA would moot the federal suit? I do not think it will given the larger issues.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:04 PM (946rW)
----------------------- -----------------------

The SCOTUS is the ultimate destination, I think like all of us it's difficult to hear the constant drone of Pres-Elect Drool Bucket picked another anti-American traitor to staff his fantasy cabinet and isn't that great.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 28, 2020 12:08 PM (oGBso)

140 Who is in to drones for aerial photography?
I'd like to get in to it, but seems like they are all made in China and report back to China.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 12:08 PM (w7KSn)

141 Bannon has the SDNY persecution hanging over him.

That would make sense. He and Rahim were bothered by Trump's advisors telling PDT not to go to a rally. Everything else Bannon talked about was very positive.

It's hard to get your head away from personal stuff and into work.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 12:08 PM (siY0G)

142 Candace Owens
at_RealCandaceO
1h

Weeks ago, at_Facebook censored a post of mine which truthfully stated that at_JoeBiden is NOT the President-elect.

So I got lawyers involved.

Conclusion?

at_PolitiFact uncensored the post & admitted that they LIED by rating my post false.

The fact-checkers are lying for Democrats.

At 8 Months pregnant, I unfortunately cannot fight on the ground alongside patriots like I am used to, but I am taking every measure to fight these communists in the court room. It is my goal to expose these lying "fact-checkers" one by one.

at_JoeBiden is NOT the President-elect.

10:46 AM - Nov 28, 2020 - Twitter for iPhone

https://bit.ly/39ogcqb

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (Do5/p)

143 133

My kids are spoiled enough as it is. All the shit they gets from grandma and grandpa end up gathering dust in the basement by early February.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (22mNy)

144 Given Bannon's previous analysis, the only thing that should get him down at this point is if there's reason to believe the PA (and/or other) GOP majority state legislatures will flake. That'd be game over, I think, if the GOP state legislatures ratify the current elector slate. If Bannon has inside info that GOP state legislators will fold, that'd be a big downer.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (evxBY)

145 136

Interesting idea. May be worth a shot.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:10 PM (22mNy)

146 Watching Aerial America right now. They are doing Tennessee.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 12:10 PM (2DOZq)

147 Saipan was within a few days of D-Day, literally on the other side of the world, and was not just a massive operation, but obviously conducted thousands of miles from friendly territory - not just 20+ miles, across the Channel. Making that juxtaposition a handy, and awesome, illustration of the logistical and operational power of the US (primarily) in the last year of WWII.

Posted by: rhomboid

***

Rome was liberated on June 5. The first time it had fallen to an invading army in 1600 years. A truly historic event. D Day was the next day. GEN Mark Clark, always pissed by the vicious fighting his men had to do while more and more supplies (And some good leaders) went to England. He was heard to say as he met with the press asking him question after question about it..."You couldn't even give us one day to enjoy this victory."

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 12:11 PM (axyOa)

148 82 Kids don't want to do Christmas this year. It's not the wuhan, not sure what it is. Not a happy camper. Already decided I will get some gifts and make them a pan of lasagna. Maybe things will change between now and then.
Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 11:47 AM (QoPXA)

I think some of it is the commercialization of Christmas. That's what kind of burned me out.

We've gotten too far away from it's true meaning.

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 28, 2020 12:11 PM (Fs5vw)

149 Mr Meeseeks, take your dad's little manuscript about his war service, get his DD-214 and any other related documentary artifacts of his service, and create a file for him at the Library of Congress' Veterans History Project (see their website for all details). It's easy. Or have someone else do it.

I've done 4 or 5 interviews with WWII vets for this, it's a great way to memorialize the experiences of the millions involved - obviously many passed before it started, but I think they'll end up with a very large database of personal histories.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:11 PM (OTzUX)

150 Faux News is the channel that employs that airhead Sandra whatshername, the one who was outraged when a guest implied the election wasn't all wrapped up and said on air - But we called the race, that race is over!

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 28, 2020 12:12 PM (oGBso)

151 144 Given Bannon's previous analysis, the only thing that should get him down at this point is if there's reason to believe the PA (and/or other) GOP majority state legislatures will flake. That'd be game over, I think, if the GOP state legislatures ratify the current elector slate. If Bannon has inside info that GOP state legislators will fold, that'd be a big downer.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (evxBY)

It's human nature to take the path of least resistance. It takes courage to do what's right when there's an easier option.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 12:13 PM (H3MF8)

152 148

Christmas season starts in September now. By the time Dec 25 rolls around a lot of people are burned out.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:13 PM (22mNy)

153 Thanks for sharing memories of times when we all celebrated America and those who defended her

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:13 PM (HCeRP)

154 There's a channel on Youtube, guy calls himself "Geography King," but he's a real down to Earth, soft spoken guy named Kyle.

He gives lots of facts and shows some good pictures of the subject areas he's covering.

One of his recent videos compares home prices in a handful of cities, like Atlanta, Columbus, Ohio, Sacramento, and Long Island. A few other cities, I can't remember exactly where.

The striking fact, aside from how high some of these house prices are in various place, is property taxes. Apparently in Californica, the property taxes aren't based on any kind of logical system, and there are lots of old time homeowners whose property taxes are dirt cheap. Newer homes/owners, not so much.

Maybe at least a brief overview from KT one of these weekends would be interesting. Not a whole post, I think there's only so much that can be said about property taxes before everyone revolts.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:14 PM (hku12)

155 Pops never was quite in the service, had some deferment for his radio/recording engineering providing victory disks n stuff. One post was in basement of a fancy hilltop frisco hotel to isolate vibration during transcriptions, said it was safest bomshelter around. Another at a coast transmitter broadcasting American news, in japanese, to the pacific. Wires broke producing a crude amplifier/speaker barking loudly in japanese. Young draftees guarding installation had never seen an ocean before began shooting. Hilarity ensued.

Posted by: Banned at November 28, 2020 12:14 PM (3cWJ8)

156 San Miguel is barely a wide place in the road. Ruined CA mission (only one not at least partially restored, I think), and some nice rolling vineyard country to the east, last time up there I hit wineries in that area for the first time. The wonderful rural CA quiet - vineyards, oak trees, beautiful vistas, circling hawks, quiet.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:15 PM (OTzUX)

157 My kids are spoiled enough as it is. All the shit
they gets from grandma and grandpa end up gathering dust in the basement
by early February.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (22mNy)

Then it will be perfect stuff for a spring yard sale.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:15 PM (946rW)

158 Prop 13 is the reason for the wild discrepancy in taxes for Cali homes. You have 2 identical homes side by side. One can be $1200 a year tax one can be $12,000 all depending on when the house was purchased.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:15 PM (22mNy)

159 Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:11 PM (OTzUX)

Thanks. ( Great Uncle) . I always wanted to memorialize it somehow and that sounds like an excellent option.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 12:15 PM (2DOZq)

160 I wonder if this verse has anything to do with current events:

Deuteronomy 32:35 ESV

"Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and their doom comes swiftly."

Probably just wishful thinking, but I firmly believe God gave us Trump's first term, and isn't about to abandon him now.

Posted by: empire 1 at November 28, 2020 12:16 PM (vluYu)

161 I meant that one special gift at the right time, not presents by the pallet-load.

Like say an official Red Ryder, carbine action, two-hundred shot range model air rifle, with a compass in the stock, and this thing which tells time!

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:16 PM (4I/2K)

162 The striking fact, aside from how high some of these house prices are in various place, is property taxes. Apparently in Californica, the property taxes aren't based on any kind of logical system, and there are lots of old time homeowners whose property taxes are dirt cheap. Newer homes/owners, not so much.
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One of the propositions that passed in Cali back in the day limited property taxes on property that was held. Once it's sold, it can ratchet up, but you hold it and live there, it stays reasonable even as the value of the property climbs.

There are of course those who are trying to undo that to "access" all that money those greedy wreckers are holding for themselves.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 28, 2020 12:17 PM (oGBso)

163 Rome was liberated on June 5. The first time it had fallen to an invading army in 1600 years. A truly historic event. D Day was the next day. GEN Mark Clark, always pissed by the vicious fighting his men had to do while more and more supplies (And some good leaders) went to England. He was heard to say as he met with the press asking him question after question about it..."You couldn't even give us one day to enjoy this victory."
Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 12:11 PM (axyOa)

Clark is one of those guys who deserves a much greater name than he has. I know very little about the guy. Apparently he could be a real asshole... but he was a freakin' General, of COURSE he could be an asshole, but for reasons I don't know, it seems his assholery stands out from the rest.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:17 PM (hku12)

164 old time homeowners whose property taxes are dirt cheap. Newer homes/owners, not so much.

God bless Howard Jarvis and Prop. 13. Pols hate it, try to kill it, voted down last "election".

Posted by: Banned at November 28, 2020 12:18 PM (3cWJ8)

165 Justsayin', you are right. My church is still planning midnight mass--unless something changes before then--and I get to go and play handbells. (But as Chique pointed out yesterday, no choir this year!) So I'm very grateful I live in a state where I can still do that. Have to keep remembering the essence of Christmas is still real, no matter what.

Posted by: skywch at November 28, 2020 12:18 PM (Y/Ps0)

166 go to nationalww2museum.org, you can find video oral histories. they are excellent. Go to NOLA and see that museum if you are a member of the horde. Others won't get it.

Posted by: jeff at November 28, 2020 12:18 PM (J2JqR)

167 128 @111..."But this is a time when Faith counts for much more than reason."

I get your point, morale is important, but don't agree. Reason alone prevents a Biden installation. Any argument for Biden as victor is, at this point, irrational.
Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (evxBY)

Just for the sake of argument, I think in terms of pure reason, it's far more irrational to assume that the GOP-e, which controls the State Legislatures in question, will suddenly stand up and grow a spine. That would take a miracle, but that's what I'm hoping for.

Our biggest problem remains that a whole lot of the GOP office holders want Trump gone just as much as the Dems do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2020 12:18 PM (V2Yro)

168
WE Need To Be The Man Smoking A Cigar Who Saves The Election From The Leftist Election Stealing Alligator

Just jump in the water and rip the election out of the jaws of the thief.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:18 PM (b16/K)

169 Cali is now majority renter for the first time in a long time, maybe ever. So the days of Prop 13 are not long. And wile I understand the argument for it, it is unfair as fuck to younger home buyers.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:19 PM (22mNy)

170 The striking fact, aside from how high some of these house prices are in various place, is property taxes. Apparently in Californica, the property taxes aren't based on any kind of logical system, and there are lots of old time homeowners whose property taxes are dirt cheap. Newer homes/owners, not so much.
---------------------------------

One of the propositions that passed in Cali back in the day limited property taxes on property that was held. Once it's sold, it can ratchet up, but you hold it and live there, it stays reasonable even as the value of the property climbs.

There are of course those who are trying to undo that to "access" all that money those greedy wreckers are holding for themselves.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 28, 2020 12:17 PM (oGBso)

Yes, he mentioned there was a ballot measure to try to change it this year, and it failed.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:19 PM (hku12)

171 Prop 13 means houses owned for many years have a fraction of the property taxes of those next door that have just changed hands (there are provisions to keep the tax benefit when property passes down within a family).

Weird, and not reasonable on the surface - but the unavoidable consequence of an insatiable Leviathan, which received a rare bit of push-back from the electorate (42 years ago).

And now, inertial. Can't imagine the result if it were to be eliminated (an attempt to partially reduce the commercial property element was just miraculously rejected at the ballot box).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

172 Prop 13 is why a lot of older people are trapped in their house . They can't afford to move and change their tax bill.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (2DOZq)

173 112 Dick Blumenthal stormed Omaha Beach and went on to liberate Auschwitz single handed.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

He also singlehandedly won the battle of Khe Sanh in Vietnam.

What a guy!

Posted by: Justsayin' at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

174 Given Bannon's previous analysis, the only thing that should get him
down at this point is if there's reason to believe the PA (and/or other)
GOP majority state legislatures will flake. That'd be game over, I
think, if the GOP state legislatures ratify the current elector slate.
If Bannon has inside info that GOP state legislators will fold, that'd
be a big downer.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (evxBY)

Is razorfist said last week, it is up to US to make sure they do not flake. Pennsylvanians did a fine job of that this week. Now we need to continue to let legislators in the other states know that they have FAR more to fear from us than they do the Antifa. They need to know that dereliction of duty WILL cause revolution.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (946rW)

175 Clark is one of those guys who deserves a much greater name than he has. I know very little about the guy. Apparently he could be a real asshole... but he was a freakin' General, of COURSE he could be an asshole, but for reasons I don't know, it seems his assholery stands out from the rest.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:17 PM (hku12)

Concur.
He was a tough general and had an ego as well. I don't think the media liked the fighting in Italy any more than the troops did. It reflected in their reporting. The terrain favored the defense and it was costly.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (axyOa)

176 Who is in to drones for aerial photography?
I'd like to get in to it, but seems like they are all made in China and report back to China.
Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 12:08 PM (w7KSn)

Nobody is IN to the drones. That's the beauty of them, you can fly them remotely!

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:21 PM (hku12)

177 If I am not mistaken, a CA proposition recently passed that allowed a homeowner to keep their tax basis if they buy another home anywhere in CA. This came as a result of the catastrophic fires, where seniors lost their homes, purchased other homes and then got sticker shock w their new property tax basis.
In my case, my home is valued at $1.5 million. I pay now about $3800 per year property tax. I have no mortgage. We are looking to relocate, this would allow us to keep our tax basis.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 12:21 PM (w7KSn)

178 162 The striking fact, aside from how high some of these house prices are in various place, is property taxes. Apparently in Californica, the property taxes aren't based on any kind of logical system, and there are lots of old time homeowners whose property taxes are dirt cheap. Newer homes/owners, not so much.
---------------------------------

One of the propositions that passed in Cali back in the day limited property taxes on property that was held. Once it's sold, it can ratchet up, but you hold it and live there, it stays reasonable even as the value of the property climbs.

There are of course those who are trying to undo that to "access" all that money those greedy wreckers are holding for themselves.

Posted by: President-Elect Boots at November 28, 2020 12:17 PM (oGBso)

We had a similar proposition on the ballot in Colorado, like, 20 years ago. I voted for it, thinking of all the retired homeowners who've had their homes for 40 years or more and figuring they deserved to keep what they've earned.

It passed easily, but IIRC the state legislature weaseled out on implementing it somehow.

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 12:22 PM (H3MF8)

179 131 How many 97 year olds are still with us?

Not sure but know a record number of them voted in Pa this year
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (9sWOw)
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And also a record number of their parents.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:22 PM (sy5kK)

180 We have a looming helium shortage problem. It's going up in the air in birthday balloons and not coming back, and it has important industrial uses.

I worry about this more than I worry about Global Warming because it's real, man-made and within our control.

Posted by: Ignoramus at November 28, 2020 12:22 PM (9TdxA)

181
"Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time
when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand,
and their doom comes swiftly."

Probably just wishful thinking, but I firmly believe God gave us Trump's first term, and isn't about to abandon him now.

Posted by: empire 1 at November 28, 2020 12:16 PM (vluYu)

That is not wishful thinking at all. Their doom is coming one way or another.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:22 PM (946rW)

182 Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 12:21 PM (w7KSn)

As Johnny Carson would say ' I did not know that'

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 12:23 PM (2DOZq)

183
Why deny the giver their joy?
Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:05 PM (4I/2K)

---------------

I've been to the Christmases with an overwhelming shower of gifts to the kids. They are overwhelmed and the expected look of happiness from the gift is kind of lost.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:23 PM (HCeRP)

184 174 Is razorfist said last week, it is up to US to make sure they do not flake. Pennsylvanians did a fine job of that this week. Now we need to continue to let legislators in the other states know that they have FAR more to fear from us than they do the Antifa. They need to know that dereliction of duty WILL cause revolution.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (946rW)

The video you are referencing by razorfist is absolutely awesome. And razorfist is absolutely SPOT ON.

It is up to US to make sure the election isn't stolen from Trump.

Posted by: charlotte the sailor at November 28, 2020 12:23 PM (/rsCS)

185 Dick Blumenthal stormed Omaha Beach and went on to liberate Auschwitz single handed.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

He also singlehandedly won the battle of Khe Sanh in Vietnam.

What a guy!
Posted by: Justsayin' at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

Rumor has it they named the lab building after him at the Grenada Medical school where he jumped in alone and single handedly rescued the students there.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (axyOa)

186 Little old ladies pay low taxes to stay in their homes. Ok fine. Then when they sell those houses for $2m can their neighbor who has been subsidizing their taxes get a cut of the profit?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (22mNy)

187 Christmas season starts in September now. By the time Dec 25 rolls around a lot of people are burned out.
Posted by: Asshoes

This is why I refuse to do Christmas decorating before Thanksgiving. This weekend they are doing the outside decorations and next weekend or the following weekend we'll put up the tree and all the inside stuff. I don't do Christmas in October.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (Vxu+H)

188 Prop 13 is the reason for the wild discrepancy in taxes for Cali homes. You have 2 identical homes side by side. One can be $1200 a year tax one can be $12,000 all depending on when the house was purchased.
Posted by: Asshoes

Exactly why aunt and uncle live in house they bought in 1961 in HB.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (QoPXA)

189 Prop 13 means houses owned for many years have a fraction of the property taxes of those next door that have just changed hands (there are provisions to keep the tax benefit when property passes down within a family).

Weird, and not reasonable on the surface - but the unavoidable consequence of an insatiable Leviathan, which received a rare bit of push-back from the electorate (42 years ago).

And now, inertial. Can't imagine the result if it were to be eliminated (an attempt to partially reduce the commercial property element was just miraculously rejected at the ballot box).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:19 PM (OTzUX)

I see several comments mentioning Prop 13, and I thank everyone for the response and the info.

What strikes me though is, Cali voters were vote down the attempts to change tax laws, but here in Colorado, every ballot measure that has the word "tax" in it passes easily.

So... maybe that's Cali having been doing this a lot longer, and the nitwits in this state are just getting warmed up.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (hku12)

190
Who is in to drones for aerial photography?
I'd like to get in to it, but seems like they are all made in China and report back to China.
Posted by: attila

I was into it, for a while.
What you can buy for $300 today would cost $1500 four years ago. But yeah, all chinese crap with chinese spy software.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:25 PM (b16/K)

191 My Unk was a radio operator during the invasion of Iwo, a Marine most proud. During said invasion. he lost his radio (2nd wave) and was assigned as litter bearer. During my Dad's funeral, I was wearing my greens, and he complimented me on the spit shine on the shoes and a little "brass" on the eagle, globe and anchor. He more or less said what a tragedy it was I went to Vietnam twice.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 28, 2020 12:25 PM (I58tH)

192 183

Bingo!!

By present 12, the kids no longer even care.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:25 PM (22mNy)

193 Did your brother tell the cops to get right the fuck off of his property and come back with a warrant if they could show a LAW was broken? Cause no politician has the right to tell him who he can have in his home.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 11:53 AM (946rW)

#BackTheBlue

/spit

Some of these guys and their power trip make it seem like they want enemies on all sides. Haven't thought out how lonely it will be when no one wants to cooperate with them.

And then what happens when the side that tends to support them decides the other side has a point in defunding the police

Posted by: Bete at November 28, 2020 12:26 PM (Ojki1)

194 Good morning y'all!

Posted by: tbodie at November 28, 2020 12:26 PM (NstOx)

195
Candace picked a lousy time to get pregnant.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:26 PM (b16/K)

196 And then what happens when the side that tends to support them decides the other side has a point in defunding the police

Posted by: Bete at November 28, 2020 12:26 PM (Ojki1)

===
I got there in June.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 28, 2020 12:27 PM (pw+jk)

197 Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at November 28, 2020 12:22 PM (H3MF

There is a Homestead tax rate. If you are 65 and have lived in the home over 10 years as your only home taxes are half. I was on the title and mortgage of dad's home and now own it. They took that away. If they don't repeal it, it should kick in for me the year I retire.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:28 PM (QoPXA)

198 I have never felt as hopefully optimistic as I did last night when I read the PA Judge's ruling on Sean Parnell's lawsuit, as to the unconstitutional ballot counting, and then learning thousands of WI ballots are headed for litigation. What does upset me is that GA should have been a win for PDT, but based on the complete lack of action there, the Republicans will provide Biden their 16 EC votes to pull him over the 270 threshold.

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:29 PM (DsGxB)

199 That is not wishful thinking at all. Their doom is coming one way or another.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner

I fear doom may be coming to us all. The rain will fall on the just and unjust, together.

Biden has always been a stupid and dishonest man, and will just be someone's (sinister) finger puppet. The guy can hardly speak and put together a cogent thought.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 28, 2020 12:29 PM (ZCiJZ)

200 Candace picked a lousy time to get pregnant.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:26 PM

***

**Buffs nails on shirt**

Posted by: The Paolo at November 28, 2020 12:31 PM (axyOa)

201
What strikes me though is, Cali voters were vote down the attempts to change tax laws, but here in Colorado, every ballot measure that has the word "tax" in it passes easily.

So... maybe that's Cali having been doing this a lot longer, and the nitwits in this state are just getting warmed up.
Posted by: BurtTC

This year especially pissed me off. I need to find cigarettes online somewhere.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:31 PM (QoPXA)

202 I have never felt as hopefully optimistic as I did
last night when I read the PA Judge's ruling on Sean Parnell's lawsuit,
as to the unconstitutional ballot counting, and then learning thousands
of WI ballots are headed for litigation. What does upset me is that GA
should have been a win for PDT, but based on the complete lack of action
there, the Republicans will provide Biden their 16 EC votes to pull him
over the 270 threshold.

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:29 PM (DsGxB)

It is NOT over in GA either. Keep calling Kemp and your legislators DEMANDING hearings on the fraud and DEMANDING a special session to address both the fraud and the legislature directly choosing electors.
Kemp is screwing up big time and it is not going to save him. If he won't do the right thing, the legislature must.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:31 PM (946rW)

203 140 Attila -I love seeing drone aerial views, sometimes see short videos and figure it has to be from a drone. YouTube videos of a drone flying through fireworks is awesome.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 12:32 PM (9sWOw)

204 My county and city have only one property tax disciunt for those who live in their homes, ie not rental or vacation homes. And that is abused to hell. If you look at property tax records virtually no rentals exist in my town, lol. All these measures end up being abused.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:32 PM (22mNy)

205 I can highly recommend the YouTube channel "Memoirs of World War 2."

They are recording short 10 minute films of combat vets recalling their experiences.

Many are quite moving.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 28, 2020 12:07 PM (s2VJv)

As much as people hate on Google, and they should, Youtube still manages to be THE single most remarkable repository of solid, clear, useful and interesting information in video form.

So many great channels, with uploaded content from the past, or people lending their expertise to subjects that go way beyond pop culture and/or current events.

Which means it'll probably be destroyed by the left soon, but for now, it's worth using their tool while it lasts.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:33 PM (hku12)

206 I fear doom may be coming to us all. The rain will fall on the just and unjust, together.

Biden has always been a stupid and dishonest man, and will just be someone's (sinister) finger puppet. The guy can hardly speak and put together a cogent thought.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 28, 2020 12:29 PM (ZCiJZ)

President Autopen

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 28, 2020 12:33 PM (/Dgcm)

207 I fear doom may be coming to us all. The rain will fall on the just and unjust, together.

Biden has always been a stupid and dishonest man, and will just be
someone's (sinister) finger puppet. The guy can hardly speak and put
together a cogent thought.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 28, 2020 12:29 PM (ZCiJZ)

The doom is not coming for us BC... Biden will not be President and neither will the round-kneed woman he ran with.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:33 PM (946rW)

208 I've been to the Christmases with an overwhelming
shower of gifts to the kids. They are overwhelmed and the expected look
of happiness from the gift is kind of lost.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:23 PM (HCeRP)

I get that. See #161

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:34 PM (4I/2K)

209 Montana needs to change their Property Tax Structure.

Too many Millionaires and Billionaires buying giant ranches as 2nd (3rd...5th properties) and then protecting them from Tax Burdens under Agrarian Tax carve-outs.

Unless they are paying Income Taxes as a Resident, AND they can prove the majority of that Income is dervived from Ranching/Farming, these programs need to be denied to them.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:35 PM (n/KWx)

210 Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (hku12).

No Burt, most tax increase proposals in Colorado fail. They had to sneak in the property assessment rate change with obscure language and the e-cigs was "other people will pay this, not me" Our greedy legislature tries often to overturn Tabor (no tax increase w/o a vote) and increase sales taxes, do a progressive rate to nail high earners etc etc and the population has rejected them. Of course now with a Soros SoS the locusts will have easier path to get their mitts on our money.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:35 PM (NOk+L)

211 Sundowner is now someone's Sock Puppet, nothing he says is his idea.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 12:36 PM (9sWOw)

212 What strikes me though is, Cali voters were vote down the attempts to change tax laws, but here in Colorado, every ballot measure that has the word "tax" in it passes easily.

So... maybe that's Cali having been doing this a lot longer, and the nitwits in this state are just getting warmed up.
Posted by: BurtTC

This year especially pissed me off. I need to find cigarettes online somewhere.
Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:31 PM (QoPXA)

Nooooo!! Use this as a reason to quit smoking. Don't give the bastards any more of your tax dollars than you have to.

That being said, it was awfully discouraging to see basically every measure I voted against passing with flying colors.

And that little twink, Cori, getting smoked by Hickenpooper as badly as he did.

One positive, Lauren Boebert won her Congressional seat, and was recently informed she'd be allowed to carry her sidearm in the Capitol building.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:36 PM (hku12)

213 This year especially pissed me off. I need to find cigarettes online somewhere.
Posted by: Infidel

(offers Infidel a cig and a light)

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:37 PM (arJlL)

214 203 140 Attila -I love seeing drone aerial views, sometimes see short videos and figure it has to be from a drone. YouTube videos of a drone flying through fireworks is awesome.
Posted by: Skip

I think someone posted a drone video of it getting attacked over Lake Michigan by a hawk (or some other bird of prey). Kind of funny. A state of the art drone turns into $800 worth of junk now on the bottom of Lake Michigan. Nature can be a stone cold mistress.

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2020 12:37 PM (Th9ez)

215 174 Given Bannon's previous analysis, the only thing that should get him
down at this point is if there's reason to believe the PA (and/or other)
GOP majority state legislatures will flake. That'd be game over, I
think, if the GOP state legislatures ratify the current elector slate.
If Bannon has inside info that GOP state legislators will fold, that'd
be a big downer.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at November 28, 2020 12:09 PM (evxBY)

Is razorfist said last week, it is up to US to make sure they do not flake. Pennsylvanians did a fine job of that this week. Now we need to continue to let legislators in the other states know that they have FAR more to fear from us than they do the Antifa. They need to know that dereliction of duty WILL cause revolution.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (946rW)

----------------

Bannon is correct, and emphasizes that just one state legislature has to have the courage to step up, call the massive evidence and expert analysis presented by the Trump team and Rudy about the massive fraud and the hundreds of citizens who swore under penalty of perjury the corruption they saw. And Rudy has proven there are way more faulty ballots than the margin of ChinaJoe victory.

If just ONE legislature can find the "Profile In Courage" that Bannon talks about, the rest of them will become stronger and more willing to follow suit.

Come on, PA, step up and do what is right!

The victory is in the state legislature for PA, probably GA, and MI. WI can still be won by eliminating enough illegal ballots (30k?) to win the vote.
And maybe NV and AZ legislatures will also step up.
I just can't believe there are that many stupid Republicans in those legislatures to think anyone would still support them in the future if they cower now.

Rudy presented "the receipts" in the PA court last week. Now, we need the PA Repubs to step up and do what is the right thing, the Courageous thing, if you believe in the Rule of Law.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:37 PM (sy5kK)

216 Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:24 PM (hku12).

No Burt, most tax increase proposals in Colorado fail. They had to sneak in the property assessment rate change with obscure language and the e-cigs was "other people will pay this, not me" Our greedy legislature tries often to overturn Tabor (no tax increase w/o a vote) and increase sales taxes, do a progressive rate to nail high earners etc etc and the population has rejected them. Of course now with a Soros SoS the locusts will have easier path to get their mitts on our money.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:35 PM (NOk+L)

Which is what I meant when I said "every measure with the word tax in it."

Lots of ballot measures, not just statewide but locally, all this convoluted language saying "no this totally won't raise your taxes AT ALL," and all those measures passed.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)

217 It's tapioca time!

Posted by: J. R. Biden at November 28, 2020 12:38 PM (4I/2K)

218 I've been to the Christmases with an overwhelming
shower of gifts to the kids. They are overwhelmed and the expected look
of happiness from the gift is kind of lost.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:23 PM

The secret is to throw out a bunch of the old crap in their closets in September, about the time they go back to school. Then come Christmas, make one gift the special one.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 12:38 PM (axyOa)

219 This year especially pissed me off. I need to find cigarettes online somewhere.

Posted by: Infidel

You should probably make them. It's easy and costs $1 a pack or less. The machine does all the work.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 12:38 PM (9Om/r)

220
I get that. See #161
Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:34 PM (4I/2K)

I get that, too. Something really special. Remember your first bike? Your first electric train set? I do.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:39 PM (HCeRP)

221 >>You should probably make them. It's easy and costs $1 a pack or less. The machine does all the work.

You use a machine to roll smokes?

Man.

I used to respect you...

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:39 PM (+AZBk)

222 Got some JT, thanks. Takes are going up Jan. 1.

Of course now with a Soros SoS the locusts will have easier path to get their mitts on our money.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:35

She is an absolute cvnt.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:40 PM (QoPXA)

223 hahaha-

Morning, Bers.

Hope you had a great Holiday, bro.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:40 PM (+AZBk)

224 Biden has always been a stupid and dishonest man, and will just be someone's (sinister) finger puppet. The guy can hardly speak and put together a cogent thought.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at November 28, 2020 12:29 PM (ZCiJZ)

The media's attempt to recast Biden as this great unifying father figure is do false that they risk losing all CREDIBILITY when he is revealed to be a drooling dementia patient....

Oh wait.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 12:40 PM (HrMC1)

225 211 Sundowner is now someone's Sock Puppet, nothing he says is his idea.
Posted by: Skip

--

Saw a tweet that said his twitter timeline reads like it us written by a 22yo Women's Studies major

Yep

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (EGSGm)

226 You use a machine to roll smokes?

Man.

I used to respect you...

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:39 PM (+AZBk)

You don't roll anything. The tubes come finished. you slip the tube onto the machine, toss the tobacco in and pull the lever. You can load a whole pack in under 5 minutes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (9Om/r)

227 Its been about two months since I changed to vape only. It was rough at first but now I prefer it to real cigs. No smell, no yellowing on my nails, no cough, and on the rare occasion when I do take a drag from Hubbymayhems cig the taste is so gross I can't stand it. I intend to slowly end my use of nicotine completely.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (Vxu+H)

228 would not let me post this AM.
Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!

Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

229 Lots of ballot measures, not just statewide but locally, all this convoluted language saying "no this totally won't raise your taxes AT ALL," and all those measures passed.
Posted by: BurtTC

That's why I read the long blue book. You have to really concentrate and read the language of the whole text. Kidlet knows I do this. She always asks me for my cheat sheet. It was especially long this year.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (QoPXA)

230
garrett / Berserker:

feast you eyes on this:

elderly.com/collections/category_web-vault/products/gibson-explorer-1963

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (bORq3)

231 Think they expected they could shame/coerce Trump into conceding before stuff like this came to light:

@congbillposey

According to an affidavit in the MI lawsuit, one Michigan precinct/twnship had 781.91% turnout. How does this happen? - See Exhibit 14 page 3. Link to MI Lawsuit Exhibits: https://tinyurl.com/yx8rzqzn

list at the link:
https://tinyurl.com/y3oqn9jg

Posted by: Lizzy at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (bDqIh)

232 228 would not let me post this AM.
Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

..........
SO glad to hear that!

Posted by: Molly k. at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (4I/L6)

233 173 112 Dick Blumenthal stormed Omaha Beach and went on to liberate Auschwitz single handed.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

He also singlehandedly won the battle of Khe Sanh in Vietnam.

What a guy!
Posted by: Justsayin' at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

*sigh* Don't wanna call Dick out, but there he goes stealing my honor. Dude didn't leave his tent before I'd finished moping things up.

Posted by: Brian Williams at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (Ojki1)

234 212: BurtTc, 79% turnout for Colorado? If you buy that DNC/FNM line I have some lovely beach property on the front range I could sell you.

They opened up the Pepsi center for in-person voting with same day voter registration. Between that and ballot harvesting which is supposed to be illegal in Colorado. We have enough idiots that Hick, Biden, Planned Abortion probably would have won anyway but the commies ran up the vote totals for insurance and to discourage normies.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (NOk+L)

235 Bannon is correct, and emphasizes that just one
state legislature has to have the courage to step up, call the massive
evidence and expert analysis presented by the Trump team and Rudy about
the massive fraud and the hundreds of citizens who swore under penalty
of perjury the corruption they saw. And Rudy has proven there are way
more faulty ballots than the margin of ChinaJoe victory.

If just ONE legislature can find the "Profile In Courage" that
Bannon talks about, the rest of them will become stronger and more
willing to follow suit.

Come on, PA, step up and do what is right!

The victory is in the state legislature for PA, probably GA, and MI.
WI can still be won by eliminating enough illegal ballots (30k?) to
win the vote.

And maybe NV and AZ legislatures will also step up.

I just can't believe there are that many stupid Republicans in those
legislatures to think anyone would still support them in the future if
they cower now.

Rudy presented "the receipts" in the PA court last week. Now, we
need the PA Repubs to step up and do what is the right thing, the
Courageous thing, if you believe in the Rule of Law.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:37 PM (sy5kK)

LCD... the Pennsylvania legislators introduced a joint resolution yesterday to take back their right to choose electors directly. They are doing the right thing and their spines are stiffened by the calls, emails and letters from their constituents.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (946rW)

236 228 would not let me post this AM.
Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother

Good to know. Thanks!

Posted by: Puddleglum at work at November 28, 2020 12:44 PM (Th9ez)

237 Prop 13 was an answer to having people driven out of their homes by rising tax assessments.

If you want grandma to have to exit the home the kids grew up in get rid of prop 13.

The high price of a new home has an assessed property value according to the limited housing availability (read intentional limit of supply).
The home purchased a long time ago assessment increases very slowly if at all.

If California had reasonable building and tax laws prop 13 would not have been needed.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at November 28, 2020 12:44 PM (gtatv)

238 I get that, too. Something really special. Remember your first bike? Your first electric train set? I do.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:39 PM (HCeRP)

I still have my train set. Also have my dad's from when he was a boy.
Call me ~~Ishmael~~ sentimental.

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:44 PM (4I/2K)

239
Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother

Thank you, Vic's brother!
We were worried.

Let us know if we can help.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:44 PM (b16/K)

240
One positive, Lauren Boebert won her Congressional seat, and was recently informed she'd be allowed to carry her sidearm in the Capitol building.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:36 PM

But can she carry in the District and surrounding MD/VA? Isn't that what almost got the R ball players killed two years ago?

Posted by: Fox2! at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (qyH+l)

241 Most of California is grossly overrated. San Fran is the worst runndown, shitty food and bums owning the streets.

It is Bridgeport with seals.

Posted by: Desultory joe at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (L9P9s)

242 228 would not let me post this AM.
Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

hey, Vic's Brother, thanks for letting us know.

Vic has a lot of fans around here.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (sy5kK)

243 >>feast you eyes on this:

elderly.com/collections/category_web-vault/products/gibson-explorer-1963

Only ever seen 1 original in person...

weird to see an old-stock body like that, finished in 63.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (+AZBk)

244
... but he said he's leaving in a few days!

Oy!
Doctor knows best, Vic.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (b16/K)

245 Dick Blumenthal stormed Omaha Beach and went on to liberate Auschwitz single handed.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

He also singlehandedly won the battle of Khe Sanh in Vietnam.

What a guy!
Posted by: Justsayin' at November 28, 2020 12:20 PM (Fs5vw)

*sigh* Don't wanna call Dick out, but there he goes stealing my honor. Dude didn't leave his tent before I'd finished moping things up.
Posted by: Brian Williams at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (Ojki1)

Who? Never heard of him.

Posted by: Charles Gibson at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (AiZBA)

246 redbanzai, I live in FL, but I hope ppl in GA do as you say. However, Kemp is a lost cause. The GOPe there appear to be a lost cause. The only possible relief would be the Courts and they don't seem to be moving at anything but a snail's pace. Perhaps the AG will become the new hero and sue Kemp and the SoS, but Kemp jumped immediately to certify the vote for a reason. There was even a State Senator on twitter upset w PDT bc his refusal to concede was impacting the Senator's GOTV effort for Perdue and Loeffler. I don't know the answer, but I wish there was a path to those 7 needed EC that was not GA. Perhaps those 14k of non-citizen votes in AZ will get it tossed?

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:46 PM (DsGxB)

247 You don't roll anything. The tubes come finished. you slip the tube onto the machine, toss the tobacco in and pull the lever. You can load a whole pack in under 5 minutes.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division

If you could incorporate with a pinball machine that would be a winner !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:46 PM (arJlL)

248 Hey Vic's brother!!!

Thank you so much for letting us know.
We've been worried.
Will be praying for his speedy recovery.

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:46 PM (EGSGm)

249 garrett / Berserker:

feast you eyes on this:

elderly.com/collections/category_web-vault/products/gibson-explorer-1963

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (bORq3)

Yeah that would be from they called the "cleanup" run. They had some parts leftover from the 1958-59 period. they usually had nickle hardware, which is a dead giveaway, and the 1960's knobs. Had that guitar been a 1958 guitar holy shit it would be double or triple that price.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 12:46 PM (9Om/r)

250 Good News.

I am assuming this is Vic's (much) younger brother?

Please send him regards for a quick and complete recovery from the horde.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:47 PM (+AZBk)

251 I kept telling people in Texas that California was the most beautiful state in the union. And that the only problem with California is that its full of Californians.

100% agreed. Great scenery, terrible idiot liberals.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 28, 2020 12:47 PM (6XLoz)

252 >>Yeah that would be from they called the "cleanup" run.

Ah...so. Never ran into any of these.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:47 PM (+AZBk)

253 Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother

Thank you, Vic's brother!
We were worried.

Let us know if we can help.
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (arJlL)

254 Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM

Thank you very much, not knowing what happens when one goes missing is the worse feeling.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (9sWOw)

255
The first photo is very nice. Is that Chuck Heston on a horse in the background? What... a minute...what's that in the distance?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (+k5vA)

256 Very telling that the media keeps using phrases such as "Trump continues to push wild conspiracy theories in a desperate attempt to cling to power...." in the NEWS stories without at least giving a cursory account of the questionable vote tallies and ongoing legal challenges.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (HrMC1)

257
weird to see an old-stock body like that, finished in 63.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM

my son tells me it's the Bigsby what makes it so rare

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (bORq3)

258 My grandpa was a Pacific Marine in WWII. He never told any war stories, but he was infuriated that his family back in the midWest was rationing sugar and he spent guard duty in the rain in Hawaii watching a mountain of sugar sacks stacked out in the open dissolve into nothing in front of an empty warehouse that was awaiting delivery of "crucial" materials.

Posted by: Downcast at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (yzQKn)

259
Please send him regards for a quick and complete recovery from the horde.
Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:47 PM (+AZBk)

I don't know about that. I've heard that it takes a long time to recover from the Horde.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (V2Yro)

260 would not let me post this AM.

Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on
MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility.
Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!

Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

Hoo-Rah! I love that tough old curmudgeonly guy's spirit!

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (4I/2K)

261 would not let me post this AM.
Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother

thanks for the update. Sounds like Vic.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:48 PM (QoPXA)

262 Hey Vic's brother!!!

Thank you so much for letting us know.
We've been worried.
Will be praying for his speedy recovery.
Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (arJlL)

263 Sledge was not old breed. Sledge was WITH the old breed. Sledge was one of the young guys who signed up because of the war. The old breed were the guys who were already in, and already combat veterans before we joined WWII.

Posted by: ThomasD at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (jN60V)

264 off idiot sock

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (AiZBA)

265 thanks as always for that. Sounds like your dad was in Alsace at the time, though I don't know that particular town.
Posted by: rhomboid

***********

Sorry for the late response. Just got off the phone explaining COVID to my brother. He was very receptive to new information he hadn't considered,

re: my dad, things were moving so quickly during that period that his unit changed location to a new command post in a different village every 2-4 days. On this particular date they were near Strasbourg.

I loaded all the placenames he references into Google Earth and "flying" from place to place is quite an itinerary.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (m45I2)

266 254 Not surprised, they are quick to throw a patent out in the snow if they have to

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (9sWOw)

267 American thinker has a door article about how Trump's right that it's gonna be on Biden to prove his votes are legit

Lost the link

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (EGSGm)

268
LCD... the Pennsylvania legislators introduced a joint resolution yesterday to take back their right to choose electors directly. They are doing the right thing and their spines are stiffened by the calls, emails and letters from their constituents.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (946rW)

red, that gives me a very good feeling. Appreciate the updated info. I pray they follow through.

I can't even watch a minute of any MSM news, it is just a lie being thrown in our faces. I get my news from here of course, about a dozen various alternative media websites, NewsMax, and that's about it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:50 PM (sy5kK)

269 redbanzai, I live in FL, but I hope ppl in GA do as
you say. However, Kemp is a lost cause. The GOPe there appear to be a
lost cause. The only possible relief would be the Courts and they don't
seem to be moving at anything but a snail's pace. Perhaps the AG will
become the new hero and sue Kemp and the SoS, but Kemp jumped
immediately to certify the vote for a reason. There was even a State
Senator on twitter upset w PDT bc his refusal to concede was impacting
the Senator's GOTV effort for Perdue and Loeffler. I don't know the
answer, but I wish there was a path to those 7 needed EC that was not
GA. Perhaps those 14k of non-citizen votes in AZ will get it tossed?

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:46 PM (DsGxB)

There are several paths that would negate the need for GA electoral votes and we are in good shape either way. That GA state senator is high or stupid if he thinks Trump conceding would do anything but ensure Republican losses in January. Trump is not the problem. Them allowing blatant cheating is. There are three law suits there right now though so the courts will likely step in.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:50 PM (946rW)

270 door article?
GOOD article

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:50 PM (EGSGm)

271 Dick Blumenthal stormed Omaha Beach and went on to liberate Auschwitz single handed.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 28, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

Blumenthal was so respected and awed by his fellow soldiers that they began naming the penis after him.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 12:50 PM (HrMC1)

272 LCD... the Pennsylvania legislators introduced a
joint resolution yesterday to take back their right to choose electors
directly. They are doing the right thing and their spines are stiffened
by the calls, emails and letters from their constituents.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (946rW)

State Senator Doug Mastriano sounds like he's leading the charge on that. I'm praying that he and other patriots like him in office step and refuse to let the Dems get away with this. It's not just OrangeManBad who is at stake at losing his office. It's every Republican in every election if this is allowed to stand. Stand and fight now because there won't be a tomorrow.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (+k5vA)

273 Only ever seen 1 original in person...

weird to see an old-stock body like that, finished in 63.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:45 PM (+AZBk)

I have seen a few, but thats it. Played one of them. They are rarer than hens teeth. Dave, from Dave's guitars has one in his collection. He let me play it. I love korina.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (9Om/r)

274 ThomasD, thanks, thought that was the case (Sledge was referring to the old-timers, including "China Marines" who were part of his unit, including the gunny who is depicted in the HBO series). And the "with" in "With the Old Breed" is a key part of the title.

In any case, much of the common sense of the Old Breed, and Sledge's generation, seems to have evaporated, along with other things.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (OTzUX)

275 Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM

Thank you very much, not knowing what happens when one goes missing is the worse feeling.
Posted by: Skip

Speaking of MIA's, Margarita Deville has been missing awhile.

The last post I remember from her, she stated her husband was having heart probs.

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (arJlL)

276 Unless they are paying Income Taxes as a Resident, AND they can prove the majority of that Income is dervived from Ranching/Farming, these programs need to be denied to them.
Posted by: garrett at Novemb

In California that's called the Williamson Act. In exchange for lower property taxes on Ag land you promise not to develop the property for 10 years.

Posted by: CaliGirl at November 28, 2020 12:52 PM (dyOwI)

277 Hey Vic's brother!!!

Thank you so much for letting us know.

We've been worried.

Will be praying for his speedy recovery.

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

Seconded !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (arJlL)

Thirded!! Plus please tell Vic we would love him to stop by HQ as soon as he can. We are missing him.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:52 PM (946rW)

278 American thinker has a door article about how Trump's right that it's gonna be on Biden to prove his votes are legit

Lost the link
Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:49 PM (EGSGm)

https://tinyurl.com/yxdux9zz

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (AiZBA)

279 There was even a State
Senator on twitter upset w PDT bc his refusal to concede was impacting
the Senator's GOTV effort for Perdue and Loeffler. I don't know the
answer, but I wish there was a path to those 7 needed EC that was not
GA. Perhaps those 14k of non-citizen votes in AZ will get it tossed?

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:46 PM (DsGxB)

Do these squishes really think that if the Dems can steal the presidential election they won't steal these senate races too? Once they can get away with this they will will do every damn election and only get more bold in doing it. There won't be a safe seat anywhere.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (+k5vA)

280 270
door article?

GOOD article

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:50 PM (EGSGm)
VMOM, I did get your email address the other day. I will send you the PDF of the analysis done of the PA Vote, in order to send to our legislators.
We are blessed to have a real firebrand in Sen. Mastriano, who I just found out has only been in office since 2019!!
He won his seat in a special election.
Can you say: Providential?

Posted by: kallisto at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (DJFLF)

281 Plus please tell Vic we would love him to stop by HQ as soon as he can. We are missing him.
Posted by: redbanzai

Yeah!
We are readying some helpful horde physical therapy advice!

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (EGSGm)

282 >>I have seen a few, but thats it. Played one of them. They are rarer than hens teeth. Dave, from Dave's guitars has one in his collection.

Yeah, his I know of but never played / touched.

The one I saw was down in KC. Part of a complete Korina set at the time.

Talk about insane money...

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (iOeo0)

283
We can add "election irregularites and anamolises" to the long and curious list of things the Fake News has no interest, along with:

-- Middle East Peace accords, (not accord, but accords).
-- Great economy for All
-- Biden's corruption
-- the exposed Russia Hoax
-- the corrupt FBI
-- the corrupt CIA
-- the fake impeachment conspiracy/hoax

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 12:54 PM (b16/K)

284 Kallisto, thanks!!!

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:54 PM (EGSGm)

285 So for the past few weeks, I've been getting calls from the CCRC where my mom is in residence. They've been getting hit with "cases" of Whu Flu, and in accordance with their guidelines they call every one who has a relative at the facility.

Today, it's mom's turn to test positive. She's 98 y/o, can't walk, and doesn't know know me from the janitor.

She's gonna be a handful for the staff as the have to quarantine her.

Prayers for them, prayers for her...

Posted by: browndog at November 28, 2020 12:54 PM (BgMrQ)

286 Thank you, Vic's brother. Please let Vic know so many of us were concerned and worried. Hope he doesn't mind a virtual hand squeeze from someone wishing him the strength to get through all the adversity. I bl a man w as much strong will as he should kick down this latest barrier, too. But, dammit, Vic, listen to your docs!

Posted by: EveR at November 28, 2020 12:55 PM (DsGxB)

287 State Senator Doug Mastriano sounds like he's
leading the charge on that. I'm praying that he and other patriots like
him in office step and refuse to let the Dems get away with this. It's
not just OrangeManBad who is at stake at losing his office. It's every
Republican in every election if this is allowed to stand. Stand and
fight now because there won't be a tomorrow.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (+k5vA)

THIS is something we all need to keep at the forefront. We do not have the luxury of giving into despair or giving up. This fight is for our republic and our freedoms.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:55 PM (946rW)

288 Plus please tell Vic we would love him to stop by HQ as soon as he can. We are missing him.
Posted by: redbanzai

Yeah!
We are readying some helpful horde physical therapy advice!
Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP!

VIC- if you can hear us, nod once for yes !

And twice for no !

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:55 PM (arJlL)

289 Got a flyer that my state senator, a Dem, is retiring

Dunno what that means in terms of this fight

Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:56 PM (EGSGm)

290 Lots of ballot measures, not just statewide but locally, all this convoluted language saying "no this totally won't raise your taxes AT ALL," and all those measures passed.
Posted by: BurtTC

That's why I read the long blue book. You have to really concentrate and read the language of the whole text. Kidlet knows I do this. She always asks me for my cheat sheet. It was especially long this year.
Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (QoPXA)

Yeah, I read the book. Followed every twist and turn in the language, tried to get in the heads of the people who wrote the damn things, understand their intentions.

It was easy in the end to see what they were up to, and to see how it was going to fool enough voters that they'd all pass. And they did.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:56 PM (hku12)

291 Speaking of MIA's, Margarita Deville has been missing awhile.

The last post I remember from her, she stated her husband was having heart probs.

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (arJlL)

Does anyone have her contact info? Can we get in touch with her to make sure she is ok and see if there is anything she needs?

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (946rW)

292 >>Yeah that would be from they called the "cleanup" run.

Ah...so. Never ran into any of these.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:47 PM (+AZBk)

Yeah both the V and Explorer. I think its called the 62-63 cleanup run. Nickle hardware, 60's knobs. Very, very small handful of those, which if i remember right get lumped in with the original production, which is under 100 of the Vs and less than 50 explorers. Some sources tell me there might be actually less than 25 explorers. The really, really rare explorer was the split headstock explorer, which were the first ones. I think they made 2 or 3, then they went to the hockey stick headstock.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (9Om/r)

293 Muldoon, thanks.

Only partly joking, it's the "old" information about COVID that invalidates almost everything done so far to "fight" it. The new info and research just confirms it all.

But I've given up even following that any more. I see nothing indicating society has the potential to recover from this collapse of science, medicine, common sense, and even American values and constitutional limits.

And if things go the wrong way on one front, guess what's next?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (OTzUX)

294 272 LCD... the Pennsylvania legislators introduced a
joint resolution yesterday to take back their right to choose electors
directly. They are doing the right thing and their spines are stiffened
by the calls, emails and letters from their constituents.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (946rW)

State Senator Doug Mastriano sounds like he's leading the charge on that. I'm praying that he and other patriots like him in office step and refuse to let the Dems get away with this. It's not just OrangeManBad who is at stake at losing his office. It's every Republican in every election if this is allowed to stand. Stand and fight now because there won't be a tomorrow.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 12:51 PM (+k5vA)

Maybe they need a few, or a few thousand, or a few million positive emails from fellow American citizens to show support for their courageous actions?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (sy5kK)

295 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:52 PM (946rW).

We could buy Vic a Notebook or Amazon Fire so he could post from his rehab if Vic's brother wanted to send the address to MisHum, Weasel or OregonMuse. Maybe put any excess money contributed into an Amazon gift card for Vic.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (NOk+L)

296 I learned "Scrunt" from Vic
went on real clear pol and called
pelosi a scrunt and i was banned
God Speed Vic!

Posted by: vizzy at November 28, 2020 12:58 PM (R/9t3)

297 Yeah!
We are readying some helpful horde physical therapy advice!
Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (EGSGm)

It might involve Yakkity Sax and someone who answers to, "O, Nurse".

Posted by: Fox2! at November 28, 2020 12:58 PM (qyH+l)

298 Pleas tell Vic we all miss him and wish him a speedy recovery.

Posted by: JM in Florida at November 28, 2020 12:58 PM (HCeRP)

299 >>Very, very small handful of those, which if i remember right get lumped in with the original production, which is under 100 of the Vs and less than 50 explorers. Some sources tell me there might be actually less than 25 explorers. The really, really rare explorer was the split headstock explorer, which were the first ones. I think they made 2 or 3

I've seen the V's. Never the Explorer.

And yeah, I have heard there is closer to 20 than 50 total Explorers.

And the one I saw was the Split/V-shaped headstock. Of course, guy had one of each variety of Korina flavor.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:59 PM (t23Vn)

300 I've been missing Vic's first had accounts of the Peloponnesian wars.

Get well soon Vic.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 28, 2020 01:00 PM (AiZBA)

301 BurtTc, 79% turnout for Colorado? If you buy that DNC/FNM line I have some lovely beach property on the front range I could sell you.

They opened up the Pepsi center for in-person voting with same day voter registration. Between that and ballot harvesting which is supposed to be illegal in Colorado. We have enough idiots that Hick, Biden, Planned Abortion probably would have won anyway but the commies ran up the vote totals for insurance and to discourage normies.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:43 PM (NOk+L)

That's the message I got. Loud and clear. Doesn't matter what we do outside of the leftist shithole cities, they're going to "find" the votes needed to accomplish whatever they want.

The Hick v. Cori race was my bellweather. I expected Cori to lose, but they didn't even let it appear to be close. Nobody now is going to give up a cushy seat in the state legislature, or running one of these towns outside the cities, to challenge for a statewide race as a Republican. It's political suicide.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:00 PM (hku12)

302 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 12:52 PM (946rW).

We could buy Vic a Notebook or Amazon Fire so he could post from his
rehab if Vic's brother wanted to send the address to MisHum, Weasel or
OregonMuse. Maybe put any excess money contributed into an Amazon gift
card for Vic.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (NOk+L)

I would be glad to contribute to such an endeavor if someone COBish would organize and put up a link so that tech dummies can contribute.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 01:00 PM (946rW)

303 In a past life I lived in Sumas. Loved going to the Holy Smoke.
Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 11:33 AM (QoPXA)

I have been there! Many years ago now.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (lPgSf)

304 And the one I saw was the Split/V-shaped headstock. Of course, guy had one of each variety of Korina flavor.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:59 PM (t23Vn)

I think I saw those. I think he had them on display at one of the texas shows, i got pictures of them. Rick derringer had a split head stock explorer, but had to sell it. That was in the late 70's I think. It had a 10K price tag on it at that time!!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (9Om/r)

305
Can you imagine how bad the VA hospitals will get, again, if biden takes over?

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (b16/K)

306 Plus please tell Vic we would love him to stop by HQ as soon as he can. We are missing him.
Posted by: redbanzai

Yeah!
We are readying some helpful horde physical therapy advice!
Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (EGSGm)

PHYSICAL THERAPY IS A COMMUNIST LIE!

Like fluoride in the water, that's how they gitcha.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (hku12)

307 "In the last week, I've had a lot of trouble sleeping
on a regular schedule. Been up about 28 hours now, and wired, but not
tired. Between the fake ballots nonsense and the Covid nonsense, I
just can't unwind enough to snooze. Our government wants to hurt us,
I'm now convinced. Not just ignore us, but actually hurt us.

Inslee is truly an evil bastard from hell.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 11:49 AM (sy5kK)"

You didn't know that already?

Hey, remember in January when the slides and downed trees on US 2 cut off several towns, leaving thousands without power, heat, or resupply?

Inslee refused to declare any sort of emergency or disaster, saying "people who chose live in the mountains knew what they were getting into". If I recall correctly, the towns were relieved by private citizens and volunteers with earthmoving equipment, bringing donated supplies.

Fuck that guy.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 28, 2020 01:05 PM (EEVQU)

308 I'd love a new MD writeup on COVID-19 if Muldoon feels ambitious. Locally the FMN were all "OMG, the morgue is full" a couple nights ago. I'd love to know the facts of why that is. People are not dying in excessive #s so I suspect its something like limited # of coroners, vacay season, and can't get COVID bucks w/o autopsy, whereas Colorado does not normally require autopsy for deaths in hospital so the state doesn't have a huge pool of coroners; but I don't know how to investigate this.

p.s. I know the FNM are 99% BS, but dad likes to watch the local news and I hear a lot of it while I'm working or hanging out with the horde on the computer in another room.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 01:06 PM (NOk+L)

309 We could buy Vic a Notebook or Amazon Fire so he could post from his rehab if Vic's brother wanted to send the address to MisHum, Weasel or OregonMuse. Maybe put any excess money contributed into an Amazon gift card for Vic.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (NOk+L)

A Samsung/HP/Lenovo/Acer Chromebook is only around $300. Down to $200ish if last year's model. If just a few of us pitch in $10-20 we're there.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 28, 2020 01:06 PM (8B6Ng)

310 Vic's Brother --

Thanks very much for the news! We've all been worried about him. If you were the one who got him to go to the hospital, special blessings on you.

Posted by: empire 1 at November 28, 2020 01:06 PM (vluYu)

311 I have been there! Many years ago now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (lPgSf)

Heh. Those were some good times. That was before I was 29.

Shit, I just realized how long ago that was.

*hangs head*

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 01:07 PM (QoPXA)

312 Hey, remember in January when the slides and downed
trees on US 2 cut off several towns, leaving thousands without power,
heat, or resupply?

Inslee refused to declare any sort of
emergency or disaster, saying "people who chose live in the mountains
knew what they were getting into". If I recall correctly, the towns were
relieved by private citizens and volunteers with earthmoving equipment,
bringing donated supplies.

Fuck that guy.

Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 28, 2020 01:05 PM (EEVQU)

And his bullet ridden corpse isn't hanging upside down from a power line somewhere?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (9Om/r)

313 Can you imagine how bad the VA hospitals will get, again, if biden takes over?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (b16/K)

Funny how the horror stories from the VA absolutely vanished in 2017? No doubt that'll be on the short list of new "revenue" the Harris admin will find.

Posted by: clutch cargo at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (8B6Ng)

314 ...and I stand by my earlier statement.

I expect Bers to be rolling smokes one-handed while playing a mind-blowing solo.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (t23Vn)

315 've seen the V's. Never the Explorer.

And yeah, I have heard there is closer to 20 than 50 total Explorers.

And the one I saw was the Split/V-shaped headstock. Of course, guy had one of each variety of Korina flavor.
Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 12:59 PM (t23Vn)

Pretty sure wealthy rock stars own all the originals

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (HrMC1)

316 The latest Powerlineblog Week in Pictures has some pretty funny stuff.

Enjoy.

https://tinyurl.com/PWIP112020

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 28, 2020 01:09 PM (ZSK0i)

317 I'd love a new MD writeup on COVID-19 if Muldoon feels ambitious

********

I have no plans to do any kind of summary write-up but will continue to put up observations in the comments if they seem cogent.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 28, 2020 01:10 PM (m45I2)

318 >>Pretty sure wealthy rock stars own all the originals

You would be surprised.

Steven Segal has one or two of the original Korinas that I know of.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:10 PM (t23Vn)

319 ...and I stand by my earlier statement.

I expect Bers to be rolling smokes one-handed while playing a mind-blowing solo.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (t23Vn)

Rolling smokes? As Bones would say, I'm metal guitar player, not a cowboy. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:11 PM (9Om/r)

320 Shit, I just realized how long ago that was.

*hangs head*
Posted by: Infidel

And they told me there would be no 'higher math' on this site...

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at November 28, 2020 01:11 PM (gtatv)

321 Aerial America now showing Michigan. Detroit is such a shame. They could film post apocalyptic movies there without changing a thing, Outside of Detroit , Michigan compares to any of the other state in beauty.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (2DOZq)

322 Vic: *falls, breaks hip* I'm ok laid up here in the recliner, don't want no fuss.

Horde: Get medical attention!

Vic: No thanks, there's nothing they can do anyways, like a broke toe.

*later, at hospital*

Doc: We can replace that busted hip, make you good as new.

Vic: No thanks, I kinda like my OEM parts. I'll be fine.

*later, at post-surgery rehab*

Nurse: You'll be with us for 8 weeks, Mr. Vic.

Vic: *looks around* No porch, no rocker, and no brown to sip. I'm outta here in 3 days.

Posted by: Count de Monet, President-Elect ISTJ at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (4I/2K)

323 But many of those super high end pieces are in the hands of collectors not rock stars.

It is hard as hell to get a famous rock star to pay market rates for most shit.

Santana has been trying to buy an amp for ages that he refuses to pay for...so, he's been leasing one for decades.

At the rate he is /was paying, he could have bought that amp 2-3 times.

But, he wants the 'Fame' discount.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (t23Vn)

324 I just read that the late Allen Collins of Lynyrd Skynyrd bought one from Eric Clapton in 1976 and used it for the rest of his life.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (HrMC1)

325 Plus please tell Vic we would love him to stop by HQ as soon as he can. We are missing him.
Posted by: redbanzai

Yeah!
We are readying some helpful horde physical therapy advice!
Posted by: vmom - FIGHT FOR AMERICA! FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 28, 2020 12:53 PM (EGSGm)

Indeed.
While there are for realsies medical persons here, the rest of us know nothing beats slapping a hot iron on the aches and pains.
All the best Vic. Prayers up.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (axyOa)

326 One source for information on COVID is Rational Ground website.

https://rationalground.com/

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2020 01:13 PM (WyVLE)

327 A Samsung/HP/Lenovo/Acer Chromebook is only around $300. Down to $200ish if last year's model. If just a few of us pitch in $10-20 we're there.
Posted by: clutch cargo

I'm down with that.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at November 28, 2020 01:14 PM (gtatv)

328 Santana has been trying to buy an amp for ages that he refuses to pay for...so, he's been leasing one for decades.

At the rate he is /was paying, he could have bought that amp 2-3 times.

But, he wants the 'Fame' discount.
Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (t23Vn)

Maybe he just doesn't want to get rolled....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 01:14 PM (HrMC1)

329 Can you imagine how bad the VA hospitals will get, again, if biden takes over?
Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 01:04 PM (b16/K)

Funny how the horror stories from the VA absolutely vanished in 2017? No doubt that'll be on the short list of new "revenue" the Harris admin will find.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (8B6Ng)

I would guess, and it's only a guess, if the Dems manage to keep and expand their power, the VA as it currently exists will be gone. The whole structure of the system will be required to expand, to make room for illegals and the detritus on city streets...

There was an article I saw earlier this year, the VA facility in the LA area, there was a large amount of vacant property attached to the facility, and some locals decided it would be a great idea to build some homeless houses or tents or whatever, right there on the VA grounds.

I don't know how they got away with it, but apparently they were going full steam ahead.

Once the system is no longer for Veterans, it becomes the defacto national healthcare system, and in some ways it surprises me that the VA has lasted this long, providing services to this ONE sector of the population, without the left insisting there's nothing special about Veterans that entitles them to this federal system of care, when nobody else has it.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:15 PM (hku12)

330 GARDEN THREAD IS NOOD

( was cleaning my screen and it just popped up, honest)

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at November 28, 2020 01:15 PM (9sWOw)

331 I expect Bers to be rolling smokes one-handed while playing a mind-blowing solo.
Posted by: garrett

I smoke non-filters.

Years ago, I was somewhere and a guy noticed, and offered to trade a hand rolled cig for a Camel'

I said sure, took the cig without looking at it and with the first drag, I inhaled half of the tobacco.

I'm coughing and coughing, and my eyes are bulging out of my head, and the guy goes "Strong, isn't it ?"

And I nodded, whilst wondering if I would ever be able to breathe again.

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 01:15 PM (arJlL)

332 I am fortunate to have met Eugene Sledge, through his son, and to have had him autograph several copies of With the Old Breed for me.

They have been a popular gift over the years so, alas, my supply is almost gone.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 01:15 PM (yQpMk)

333 >>Pretty sure wealthy rock stars own all the originals

You would be surprised.

Steven Segal has one or two of the original Korinas that I know of.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:10 PM (t23Vn)

Yup, thats right, he has them.
I have the V and explorer pair from the Gibson historic collection. They are amazing. I played probably just under a dozen of the original V's, and I have to say gibson nailed the historic ones pretty damn good. I stuck PAFs in mine as a test, and its right in the ball park. When I was at gibson one day they opened the safe and let me play their original V that they bought JUST so they had a real one as a model. It was a black guard V. It was nice. I think they paid 50K for it when they got it. Thats may favorite V. I love korina guitars.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:18 PM (9Om/r)

334 >>Maybe he just doesn't want to get rolled....

I am not speculating here.

He wants it back.

He just won't pay the going rate to buy it because it was his and he feels like he deserves to have it back.

So, he pays to rent a similar one...rather than get his old one back.

Honestly, wouldn't cost the guy a penny if he did it right.

But - he's Santana and he believes that means something to a seller.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:18 PM (t23Vn)

335 Maybe they need a few, or a few thousand, or a few
million positive emails from fellow American citizens to show support
for their courageous actions?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 28, 2020 12:57 PM (sy5kK)

State Senator Matriano was on Steve Bannon's show yesterday. He said before Twatter shut him down he had 5,000 followers. Afterwards he had 112,000. He knows the people are behind him. His Facebook page is Doug Mastriano Fighting for Freedom. We need more Mastrianos in these state legislatures.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 01:21 PM (J4DNq)

336 >>When I was at gibson one day they opened the safe and let me play their original V that they bought JUST so they had a real one as a model. It was a black guard V. It was nice. I think they paid 50K for it when they got it. Thats may favorite V. I love korina guitars.

I have an axe they want.

... bad.

Last time we talked about it they begged me to bring it down so they could spend 3 hours with it.

The number they offered for that was kinda silly, too. But I am not in the biz of doing people favors.
I sell guitars.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:22 PM (t23Vn)

337 Santana has been trying to buy an amp for ages that he refuses to pay for...so, he's been leasing one for decades.

At the rate he is /was paying, he could have bought that amp 2-3 times.

But, he wants the 'Fame' discount.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (t23Vn)

WTF amp is that? A trainwreck, or dumble?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:23 PM (9Om/r)

338 The Pacific theater while interesting for sure isn't my prime reading of WWII , but reading the book now proves any war is my hobbie.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 01:23 PM (9sWOw)

339 i'm watching Wizard Of Oz, Purge # 10.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 28, 2020 01:24 PM (yTRuK)

340 >>WTF amp is that? A trainwreck, or dumble?

His original Dumble.

The one he cut all his famous shit on.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:24 PM (t23Vn)

341 But, he wants the 'Fame' discount.
Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:12 PM (t23Vn)

He thinks the "as used by Santana" slug line has the same value as the "Royal Warrant" for high end goods in Blighty.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 28, 2020 01:24 PM (qyH+l)

342 I have an axe they want.

... bad.

Last time we talked about it they begged me to bring it down so they could spend 3 hours with it.

The number they offered for that was kinda silly, too. But I am not in the biz of doing people favors.
I sell guitars.
Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:22 PM (t23Vn)

Why am I picturing you like the John Hurt character in the Harry Potter series.

There's Garrett, with a frightened little kid standing in front of him, barking at the poor kid "THE GUITAR CHOOSES THE ROCK GOD!"

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:25 PM (hku12)

343 >>Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:25 PM

I like Matt Umenov's line :

If you didn't buy it from me, you didn't pay nearly enough for it.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:26 PM (t23Vn)

344
His original Dumble.

The one he cut all his famous shit on.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:24 PM (t23Vn)

Well they probably want a king's ransom for it. Still, it's not like he don't have the cash. I never understood what all the fuss was about those amps.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:27 PM (9Om/r)

345 Umanov.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:27 PM (t23Vn)

346 Went out offshore from Santa Maria one August many years ago. It was nice. Came back in and drove to Bakersfield. It was not.

I liked Bakersfield though. People were very nice and I discovered Basque food

Posted by: Javems at November 28, 2020 01:28 PM (vEZXe)

347 Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:25 PM

I like Matt Umenov's line :

If you didn't buy it from me, you didn't pay nearly enough for it.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:26 PM (t23Vn)

The curse of my existence. I'm not an expert on anything, so any time I decide to dabble in this or that, the people who know what they're doing look at me like an easy mark.

How much do you want for that? Oh. That seems like a lot... but you're the expert, so.....

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 01:28 PM (hku12)

348 Also, I have a spare Samsung Tab E that we bought for my Fiancee's dad who turned out not to need it.

If Vic wants it, catch up with me, and we can arrange for me to mail it. Completely cleaned up, and not yet set up in any way. It only does WiFi

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2020 01:28 PM (WyVLE)

349 >>Well they probably want a king's ransom for it.

It started before they went super crazy...
but they were always prohibitively expensive.

But, yeah. Nobody was giving it away at any time.

His recipe was great. His amps sound amazeballs.

But, by now it has been replicated over and over. I don't personally feel like you NEED a Dumble to get the Dumble sound, anymore.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:30 PM (t23Vn)

350 I have an axe they want.

... bad.

Last time we talked about it they begged me to bring it down so they could spend 3 hours with it.

The number they offered for that was kinda silly, too. But I am not in the biz of doing people favors.

I sell guitars.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:22 PM (t23Vn)

If it was to make sure a future reissue was accurate I probably would have done it. Maybe get a new guitar out of them. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:30 PM (9Om/r)

351 Newsweak: President Donald Trump
railed against Twitter after the social media network suspended the
personal account of Republican State Senator Doug Mastriano on Friday,
accusing the network of attempting to "silence the truth" by banning the
lawmaker. The account has now been reinstated, after Twitter said it
had made an "error."

Weird how all of those "errors" only happen to conservatives.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 01:31 PM (J4DNq)

352 But, by now it has been replicated over and over. I
don't personally feel like you NEED a Dumble to get the Dumble sound,
anymore.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:30 PM (t23Vn)

Bingo. Personally, I'm frigging amazed how the amp world finally caught up. I used to use old tweaked marshalls, now I barley touch them. They stand in the basement like frozen sentinels There are a hand full of really nice amps out there, and if you lose one you can get another just like it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:34 PM (9Om/r)

353 Glad to hear Vic got a hip replacement. I'm sure he's jonesing for the brown but staying in a rehab joint with a controlled diet will help his diabetes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 01:34 PM (y7DUB)

354 Arguing about TB being a 3rd world disease. But, but . . . . prisoners, nurses . . . .

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 01:34 PM (QoPXA)

355 >>If it was to make sure a future reissue was accurate I probably would have done it. Maybe get a new guitar out of them.

They offered that and more.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:35 PM (t23Vn)

356 The only thing "vintage" that I have left is a first-year production Pignose. Not worth all that much.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:36 PM (EgshT)

357 >>If it was to make sure a future reissue was accurate I probably would have done it. Maybe get a new guitar out of them.

They offered that and more.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:35 PM (t23Vn)

So wtf was the problem?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:36 PM (9Om/r)

358 Cracks in the wall.

@joshdcaplan

PENN LIVE: 26 Pennsylvania House Republicans call for withdrawing certification of presidential electors

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 01:36 PM (ZLI7S)

359 The only thing "vintage" that I have left is a first-year production Pignose. Not worth all that much.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:36 PM (EgshT)

Those were cool. Keep that sucker.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:37 PM (9Om/r)

360 The only thing "vintage" that I have left is a first-year production Pignose. Not worth all that much.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:36 PM (EgshT)

Pignoses were fun amps. You could get all the skronky sounds but at a low volume.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 01:38 PM (y7DUB)

361 Those were cool. Keep that sucker.

Yeah, I picked it up when I first got serious with the guitar. Many late practice nights plugged into that little Pig.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:39 PM (EgshT)

362 In the long read, VDH worries that the American values which accorded the US to achieve so greatly under the horrors of WWII have not been sufficiently passed down to subsequent generations. But we have to remember that the tyrants of the Axis regarded America as puny, weak, and easily ignored. Japanese Admiral Yamamoto may have called it correctly in his "awoken a sleeping giant" assessment, but he was in a minority; his was not a wide-spread assessment.

So how did the Axis powers come to such a poor assessment of America? Apparently we were not showing any firm resolve in anything, nor interest in things beyond ourselves, nor grand innovations above trivialities. What was "the greatest generation" before WWII? Perhaps the Civil War, and the heroism from that one -- as today -- was not sufficiently passed down to subsequent generations.

We've risen to great challenges more than once in our history. It is by no means foreordained that we shall fail to do so in the future, despite a currently wastrel populace.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 28, 2020 01:39 PM (YPZzQ)

363 My county and city have only one property tax disciunt for those who live in their homes, ie not rental or vacation homes. And that is abused to hell. If you look at property tax records virtually no rentals exist in my town, lol. All these measures end up being abused.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 28, 2020 12:32 PM (22mNy)

You want to know the answer? Strict legal limits on what items/services can be funded by property taxes. Namely, services and/or infrastructure that directly affects the value of the property in question. Streets, number One. Sewers, water distribution, electric utilities, gas perhaps (if any are provided by contractors, then no tax money for them). Fire halls, community centers maybe, school building capital costs, not maintenance or teacher salaries. NO battered wimmenz shelters, no homeless shelters, no shooting galleries for addicts, no skateboard parks, no, no, non, no...

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:39 PM (fGNK2)

364 70th anniversary of Battle of Chosin. Congress had speeches urging General MacArthur to have authority to use the A-bomb.

Posted by: "Home by Christmas" didn't work out at November 28, 2020 01:40 PM (BBWrU)

365 Wow.

1976 version of Lynda Carter on Starsky and Hutch on the COZI channel.

Meow.

Posted by: President-Elect anchorbabe fashion cop at November 28, 2020 01:41 PM (ufFY8)

366 @joshdcaplan

PENN LIVE: 26 Pennsylvania House Republicans call for withdrawing certification of presidential electors

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 01:36 PM (ZLI7S)
this is a good start

Posted by: kallisto at November 28, 2020 01:42 PM (DJFLF)

367 Yeah, I picked it up when I first got serious with the guitar. Many late practice nights plugged into that little Pig.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:39 PM (EgshT)

I worked in a music store right after I graduated high school. We had one of those right on the counter. I spent hours playing through that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:42 PM (9Om/r)

368 >>So wtf was the problem?

Their unwillingness to buy the guitar.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:43 PM (+YxdH)

369 >>So wtf was the problem?

Their unwillingness to buy the guitar.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:43 PM (+YxdH)

Oh you actually wanted to sell it? I get it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:43 PM (9Om/r)

370 Motherfucker. I've had a slow leak in one of my tires so took it to Mr Tire to be repaired. They said it was a leaking valve stem so I'm thinking it will be a minimal expense. LOLGF, I had no idea they have sensors which have to be replaced at no small charge.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 01:43 PM (y7DUB)

371 Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

Thank you so much for posting! We have all been worried about him. Give him the best wishes of the Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:44 PM (fGNK2)

372 oh this is interesting.
WHYY reports that the White House invited PA GOP lawmakers to a Wednesday meeting, but no one involved in the meeting will talk about it.
Sen Mastriano was there.

Posted by: kallisto at November 28, 2020 01:44 PM (DJFLF)

373

The Trump rally in Georgia got delayed until next weekend? Who is running the show there? They need to be there now.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 01:45 PM (J4DNq)

374 371 Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's leaving in a few days!
Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

Thank you so much for posting! We have all been worried about him. Give him the best wishes of the Horde.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:44 PM (fGNK2)

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This^

Posted by: SMH at November 28, 2020 01:46 PM (RU4sa)

375 Motherfucker. I've had a slow leak in one of my
tires so took it to Mr Tire to be repaired. They said it was a leaking
valve stem so I'm thinking it will be a minimal expense. LOLGF, I had
no idea they have sensors which have to be replaced at no small charge.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 01:43 PM (y7DUB)

More problems because of FAGs (fucking average guys). People are too stupid to check tire pressure, so now we got to have sensors to say "hey dickhead, put some air in it". lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:46 PM (9Om/r)

376 @AlexBerenson
From a hospital executive whose chain has facilities in a Midwest surge State:
Anecdotally, several ER docs have also mentioned that this feels like a completely different virus than back in March/April/May. Whether that's mutations, better treatment, less sick people getting, or a combo of all three, it just feels very similar to our normal winter season.

Note: 2018-19 was a *very* mild flu season (likely due to high temperatures), while 2017-18 was notably above average.

Posted by: Don't tell the MSM at November 28, 2020 01:47 PM (BBWrU)

377 >>Oh you actually wanted to sell it? I get it.

Yeah. They wanted to put out a Re. and asked to 'borrow' it.

I laughed at them.

Then they started throwing $$$ and promises to get it in their hands for a period of time...

I laughed some more.

Then, I took pity on them and explained how they could buy the guitar, make 2-3x what they projected they would make on the project AND they would get to KEEP the guitar in their collection.

They agreed it was the smart play.

Then they decided to go a different direction and missed out on the opportunity, completely.

Honestly, it is almost as if they were trying to fail at the whole Profit thing.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:48 PM (+YxdH)

378 I worked in a music store right after I graduated high school. We had
one of those right on the counter. I spent hours playing through that.

Lots of fun, for sure. The real tragedy is that this was in '73 and I was running a '63 Black Strat into it. The guitar is long gone but if I had hung onto it, it would most likely be worth a good chunk of change now. Ah, the vagaries of yoot.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:48 PM (EgshT)

379 >> in '73 and I was running a '63 Black Strat into it.

Man.

It is SO hard to find a clean, vintage, Black Strat.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM (+YxdH)

380 Vic was admitted to hospital last SAT AM, had a
stress test then on MON. had hip replacement surgery. He has been moved
to a rehab facility. Supposed to be there 8 weeks but he said he's
leaving in a few days!

Posted by: Vic's brother at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (2f4QC)

Thank you so much for posting! We have all been worried about him. Give him the best wishes of the Horde.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:44 PM (fGNK2)

Ditto. Leaving in a few days,lol. That's so..Vic.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM (9Om/r)

381 We've risen to great challenges more than once in our history. It is by no means foreordained that we shall fail to do so in the future, despite a currently wastrel populace.

I have no doubt there are many people willing and able to rise to the challenges of today. Sadly there are also a lot of people who's concept of courage involves wearing masks while assaulting people who think differently than they do and doing so while protected by the police.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM (lgiXo)

382 Anyone know what the riots in Paris are about?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM (UUBmN)

383 I hope Vic's docs have approved the early release and that he'll be doing serious rehab at home.... don't want to scrimp on that.

Posted by: Bigsmith at November 28, 2020 01:51 PM (G/mW5)

384 It is SO hard to find a clean, vintage, Black Strat.

The worst part? I think I sold it for $800.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:51 PM (EgshT)

385 So Sarah Fuller costs Vanderbilt Football a scholarship, and kicks a squib kick, I guess to ensure she would not have to try to make a tackle.

BUT HISTORY IS MADE!!

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 01:51 PM (yQpMk)

386
Anyone know what the riots in Paris are about?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM

their chocolate ration was increased from 30 grams to 20 grams

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2020 01:52 PM (bORq3)

387 Daily Beast: Pet psychic says Biden's dogs tell her they are excited to live in WH.

Posted by: No word what they think of the cat plan at November 28, 2020 01:52 PM (BBWrU)

388 We have the jokes about Vic's great age and yet, apparently he is only 70. Where did that running joke start?

Posted by: N.L. Urker at November 28, 2020 01:52 PM (lgiXo)

389 BUT HISTORY IS MADE!!

Sarah's a HERO!!! *hic*

Posted by: Suburban Wine Moms at November 28, 2020 01:53 PM (EgshT)

390 Anyone know what the riots in Paris are about?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM

their chocolate ration was increased from 30 grams to 20 grams
Posted by: AltonJackson
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Just like us!///

Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2020 01:53 PM (UUBmN)

391 I expect Bers to be rolling smokes one-handed while playing a mind-blowing solo.
Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:08 PM (t23Vn)

If I were a nicotine fiend, I would buy tobacco seed, and grow my own, and find a way to prepare it to be smoked in a pipe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 28, 2020 01:53 PM (fGNK2)

392 Honestly, it is almost as if they were trying to fail at the whole Profit thing.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:48 PM (+YxdH)

I can explain that to them.

Posted by: Navin Johnson, Guess Your Weight carny at November 28, 2020 01:54 PM (4I/2K)

393 So Sarah Fuller costs Vanderbilt Football a scholarship, and kicks a squib kick, I guess to ensure she would not have to try to make a tackle.

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HAHAHA
- Alabama kickers

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 01:54 PM (nMXLX)

394 >>The worst part? I think I sold it for $800.

Had a ferret bring me a 9.5+ Black Slab Board once. Entire package. Case, Tags, Receipt with Lay-Away Card...the whole 9 yards.
I offered him ALL the money and a little more...

guy decided he could get a few dollars more by trying to shop it around to other guys like myself.

I saw that same guitar 6 months later and it had been pulled apart and put back together so many times that it was barely a 7.5+.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:54 PM (+YxdH)

395 Lots of ballot measures, not just statewide but locally, all this convoluted language saying "no this totally won't raise your taxes AT ALL," and all those measures passed.

Posted by: BurtTC at November 28, 2020 12:38 PM (hku12)

Like repealing the Gallagher Amendment. How the hey did that thing pass? Oh, well, the Colorado Blue Book presenting arguments for and against the propositions labelled it as bi-partisan. Of course it was bi-partisan you fools; both Dems and GOPers are happy to get as much money into their sweaty palms as the can. It was NOT a partisan issue: it was taxpayers vs. tax spenders. It seriously constrained taxes within the State. But the Blue Book never bothered to point that out, so the measure passed.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 28, 2020 01:54 PM (YPZzQ)

396 So Sarah Fuller costs Vanderbilt Football a scholarship

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We were talking about this last night. Is it confirmed? Does she keep hers?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 01:55 PM (nMXLX)

397 Anyone know what the riots in Paris are about?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM

their chocolate ration was increased from 30 grams to 20 grams

Posted by: AltonJackson at November 28, 2020 01:52 PM (bORq3)

Shop owners and barkeeps are engaging in anti-lockdown protests but they did not look particularly riot-y in the pictures I saw.

If there are riots, it may have to do with Macron's government outlawing certain Muslim groups.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 01:55 PM (946rW)

398 Man.

It is SO hard to find a clean, vintage, Black Strat.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM (+YxdH)

Yeah, they kinda got beat up fast. I just refinished a '60 for a friend. It had been sanded a few times so the body is a wee bit thinner, and was some horrible baby blue/grey that is nothing like an original color. Nobody would touch it, because it was done a few times. I told him send me the damn thing, I'll make it black like you want. It came out nice, just needs a minor buffing and back it goes.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:55 PM (9Om/r)

399 I saw that same guitar 6 months later and it had been pulled apart and
put back together so many times that it was barely a 7.5+.

Good grief. Why would someone do that?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 01:55 PM (EgshT)

400 382
Anyone know what the riots in Paris are about?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 28, 2020 01:50 PM (UUBmN)
looks like the gilets jaunes are back. Also they're against La Loi Securite Global which I imagine is some Global initiative that macron is committing to.
I don't have time right now to research in the french press, ace would be a good resource for that due to his knowledge of the french language.

Posted by: kallisto at November 28, 2020 01:56 PM (DJFLF)

401 We were talking about this last night. Is it confirmed? Does she keep hers?

If it weren't so, everyone playing football would be on scholarship, maybe as a fencer or ping-pong player, as well as track and field.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 01:56 PM (yQpMk)

402 ...some of the axes I sold over the years, for paltry numbers, should kill me to remember.

But. I try to also remember how much that $550 meant to me at the time...

surely a lot more than a 54 Telecaster did.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:56 PM (+YxdH)

403 If it weren't so, everyone playing football would be on scholarship, maybe as a fencer or ping-pong player, as well as track and field.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 01:56 PM (yQpMk)

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Good point.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 01:57 PM (nMXLX)

404 Any suggestions on preparing a garden bed for planting early next year? It's overgrown with weeds currently and I have really never made use of it since I bought the property. It's a small raised bed about 4' x 8'.

I was thinking about just cutting the weeds down and covering with a tarp until early spring. Then mix in garden soil and stuff. I want to grow tomatos, peppers, and maybe green beans if there's room. I've never done a proper good garden before and I thought I'd try next year.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2020 01:57 PM (l6b3d)

405 >>Good grief. Why would someone do that?

Some guys are animals, really.

You see an idiot like Norm taking a Power Driver to a Strat Neck Bolt and you just want to fucking scream.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:57 PM (+YxdH)

406 Had a ferret bring me a 9.5+ Black Slab Board once.
Entire package. Case, Tags, Receipt with Lay-Away Card...the whole 9
yards.

I offered him ALL the money and a little more...

guy decided he could get a few dollars more by trying to shop it around to other guys like myself.

I saw that same guitar 6 months later and it had been pulled apart
and put back together so many times that it was barely a 7.5+.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:54 PM (+YxdH)

I hate mofo's like that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 01:58 PM (9Om/r)

407 woops wrong thread

Posted by: banana Dream at November 28, 2020 01:58 PM (l6b3d)

408 if anyone reads French, here's a link to the Paris strikes:

https://tinyurl.com/ybjxpzk3

Posted by: kallisto at November 28, 2020 01:58 PM (DJFLF)

409 I really don't understand this kicker thing. She seems so proud on the sideline.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 01:59 PM (yQpMk)

410 What happened with the islamist ultimatum that Macron laid down about a week ago?

Posted by: Josephistan at November 28, 2020 02:00 PM (xrmrM)

411 >>I hate mofo's like that.

Yeah.
They come back 6 months later, axe is beat to bloody hell and they say :

"OK. I'll take that offer you made."

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:00 PM (+YxdH)

412 That's why I read the long blue book. You have to really concentrate and read the language of the whole text. Kidlet knows I do this. She always asks me for my cheat sheet. It was especially long this year.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 12:42 PM (QoPXA)

The blue book doesn't give the best arguments; it gives the most convenient ones. It pointed out, for example, that repealing the Gallagher Amendment had bi-partisan support. It did not bother to point out that it was NOT a partisan issue: it was an issue between taxpayers versus tax spenders. And now the tax spenders won.

The one on creating the 12-week parental leave fund / agency also didn't bother to address how this new agency burdens businesses and will keep many of them from daring to expand beyond 12 employees --- all the while the Gallagher repeal was based upon the fact that Colorado businesses aren't expanding quickly enough. So let's go ahead and burden Colorado businesses even harder. Sheesh!

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 28, 2020 02:00 PM (YPZzQ)

413 We have the jokes about Vic's great age and yet, apparently he is only 70. Where did that running joke start?
Posted by: N.L. Urker at November 28, 2020 01:52 PM (lgiXo)

I'm older than Vic but don't rail about

1. There's no good music since the 70s
2. I won't go to NYC because of how bad it was in the 70s (that's actually true, just not the way he meant it)
3. Flip phones are technological marvels
4. Blue tooth is high fidelity

Those are just four that come to mind. On the good side of the ledger, he's always hated RINOs.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 02:01 PM (y7DUB)

414 ...some of the axes I sold over the years, for paltry numbers, should kill me to remember.

But. I try to also remember how much that $550 meant to me at the time...

surely a lot more than a 54 Telecaster did.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 01:56 PM (+YxdH)

We all have done it. I stopped doing that in the 90's. Now I keep them all. lolThe only serious vintage one I have is the 57 goldtop, the 55 custom with the 57 conversion, and the 67 V. Thats enough for me. You need a 2nd mortgage to buy anything these days.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:01 PM (9Om/r)

415 surely a lot more than a 54 Telecaster did

A guy who owns a local shop here in my neck of the woods has a '53 Tele. Keeps it in a safe in the shop. Let me play it a few years back. I was in heaven.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 02:01 PM (EgshT)

416 I'm older than Vic but don't rail about

1. There's no good music since the 70s
2. I won't go to NYC because of how bad it was in the 70s (that's actually true, just not the way he meant it)
3. Flip phones are technological marvels
4. Blue tooth is high fidelity

Those are just four that come to mind. On the good side of the ledger, he's always hated RINOs.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 02:01 PM (y7DUB)

Now I'm educated.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at November 28, 2020 02:02 PM (lgiXo)

417 It's fascinating that there were zero male athletes available to kick that football.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 02:03 PM (nMXLX)

418 >>A guy who owns a local shop here in my neck of the woods has a '53 Tele. Keeps it in a safe in the shop. Let me play it a few years back. I was in heaven.

The necks on the 52-53(early) Teles can be amazing. Like, almost nothing better.

Though, that 57 Bers has (PAF or P90?) is also sporting a neck to die for if it is anything like the ones I have owned.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:03 PM (+YxdH)

419 The one on creating the 12-week parental leave fund / agency also didn't bother to address how this new agency burdens businesses and will keep many of them from daring to expand beyond 12 employees --- all the while the Gallagher repeal was based upon the fact that Colorado businesses aren't expanding quickly enough. So let's go ahead and burden Colorado businesses even harder. Sheesh!
Posted by: LCMS Rulz!

I guess I read between the lines. Being in the legal field and living here since I was 12. I can smell bullshit a mile away.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 02:04 PM (QoPXA)

420 It's fascinating that there were zero male athletes available to kick that football.

It would have been cooler to just let a random fan or booster kick it.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)

421 Yeah.

They come back 6 months later, axe is beat to bloody hell and they say :

"OK. I'll take that offer you made."

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:00 PM (+YxdH)

Yup, exactly.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:05 PM (9Om/r)

422 On the amusing side, it does not appear that any placekicking will be required in this game.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:05 PM (yQpMk)

423 I'm just spitballin' here but is it possible that the reason the media is not covering the massive fraud operation and various other voting irregularities is not because they think it's a waste of time , but because they think that Trump has a really good case? And that if he pulls it out, their ignorant viewers and readers will be so shocked that the media can more easily get them to believe that Trump "stole" another election?

While cities across the country burn?

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)

424 Though, that 57 Bers has (PAF or P90?) is also sporting a neck to die for if it is anything like the ones I have owned.

Maybe it's my ears but I just never cottoned to the P-90.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 02:06 PM (EgshT)

425 It's fascinating that there were zero male athletes available to kick that football.

It would have been cooler to just let a random fan or booster kick it.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:04 PM (yQpMk)
Yup.

Posted by: AandM's Twelfth Man at November 28, 2020 02:07 PM (4I/2K)

426 My brother repairs and makes guitars. He and our dad once refurbished a 57 Martin. As in 1857.

Posted by: Josephistan at November 28, 2020 02:07 PM (xrmrM)

427 Dammit, I miss the internet.

Sarah Fuller Vanderbilt "lose a scholarship"

is not allowed to be searched on duckduckgo and bing. It ignores the quotes and just returns all the YAY YOU GO GIRL articles and not the info you're searching for.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 02:07 PM (nMXLX)

428 Send Biden packing:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1332506522820153345

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 02:08 PM (CZm2G)

429 Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)

You omitted they're complicit in the fraud.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 02:08 PM (y7DUB)

430 It would have been cooler to just let a random fan or booster kick it.

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That would've been VERY bad for some random 50 year old dad-bod guy with all his eligibility left to do a better than a scholarship woman who is in college specifically for her kicking skillz.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 02:09 PM (nMXLX)

431 there is some good current music out there, but it can be harder to find. A lot of the "music industry" is fractured, and pumping out a lot of hyped garbage.
It doesn't help that I like 80's cumbias as well, my tastes tend to be specific.

As for flip phones, I have one and they are as much of a modern miracle as I really want.

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2020 02:09 PM (WyVLE)

432 Posted by: Moron Robbie - Keep praying, keep fighting, keep your head up, and keep your flag flying [ at November 28, 2020 02:07 PM (nMXLX)

I have noticed that ddg has started to suck hind tit lately.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 02:10 PM (QoPXA)

433 Though, that 57 Bers has (PAF or P90?) is also sporting a neck to die for if it is anything like the ones I have owned.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:03 PM (+YxdH)

Mine was p-90, but had the PAF conversion done, and was done the right way, plugged and rerouted. It has a 9k bridge paf. It's really aggressive.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:11 PM (9Om/r)

434 427 Dammit, I miss the internet.

Sarah Fuller Vanderbilt "lose a scholarship"

is not allowed to be searched on duckduckgo and bing.
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Search engines are trash.
As distasteful as it is. Generally, Google will deliver better results. And they are information thieves.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 02:12 PM (CZm2G)

435 Fun talking about guitars and amps. Have a good one, y'all.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 02:12 PM (EgshT)

436 Maybe it's my ears but I just never cottoned to the P-90.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 02:06 PM (EgshT)

Not a fan either, but then I don't play anything musically that uses them.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:13 PM (9Om/r)

437 That's my hat! Wish I could find it. Rode to a bike rally with it one year. (not the silent bike.)

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 02:13 PM (QoPXA)

438 The kick itself was the sad part. It was a big nothing. I mean, they could have equally made history by having her sub in as a WR, and immediately step out of bounds at the snap to avoid the jam.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:13 PM (yQpMk)

439 Back in the earlier hockey days, a 40-something coach had to be the emergency goalie for his team, and managed to do a decent job IIRC.

Posted by: Third String at November 28, 2020 02:14 PM (BBWrU)

440 I have noticed that ddg has started to suck hind tit lately.
Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 02:10 PM (QoPXA)

Although I like they don't track me, or at least claim not to, their search engine has produced bothersome results.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 02:14 PM (y7DUB)

441 So is this vandy girl kicker like the retarded water boy for the high school team who gets to suit up after six years for senior night and since the team is losing by 80 points the other team lets him run up the middle and score? Cause that is definitely a legit you go girl situation. The other team did not attempt to steal the virtue signals or nothing

Posted by: Nckate at November 28, 2020 02:15 PM (rEqap)

442 I have a early 70s marshall tremolo 50 watt
the trem was removed and the 2nd channel preamps the first Had it along time

Posted by: vizzy at November 28, 2020 02:15 PM (R/9t3)

443 Police in London said on Saturdaythat they had made over 60 arrests and expected that figure torise, as they tried to break up anti-lockdown and anti-vaccineprotests.

Air Strip One police taking action against Thought Criminals

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 02:15 PM (GNqY7)

444 "if anyone reads French..."

It describes the schedule for a week of protests, what time, where.
I can't discern the rationale for the strikes.

Posted by: attila the temporarily reasonable at November 28, 2020 02:16 PM (w7KSn)

445 My friend owns Infinity Guitars in Houston that sell high end used and new guitars. Give his website a look.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 02:17 PM (2DOZq)

446 439 Back in the earlier hockey days, a 40-something coach had to be the emergency goalie for his team, and managed to do a decent job IIRC.
Posted by: Third String at November 28, 2020 02:14 PM (BBWrU)

Sometime in the last season or two the Carolina Hurricanes were forced to use a Toronto Zamboni driver in a game against the Maple Leafs. He went on to win the game.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at November 28, 2020 02:17 PM (lgiXo)

447 Although I like they don't track me, or at least claim not to, their search engine has produced bothersome results.

-

That's the really frustrating part. Pre-Facebook or so I can remember being able to easily search for things on google, especially with direct quotes. Hogmartin said he can remember playing games with his friends where you tried to search for something that would get the fewest results.

Now it's just pay us and you're on the front page, and our algorithms have determined you shouldn't want to read about the bad side of this woman kicker's historic moment.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at November 28, 2020 02:18 PM (k1L5r)

448 Sometime in the last season or two the Carolina Hurricanes were forced to use a Toronto Zamboni driver in a game against the Maple Leafs. He went on to win the game.

Was he playing polo style?

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:18 PM (yQpMk)

449 I guess I read between the lines. Being in the legal field and living here since I was 12. I can smell bullshit a mile away.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 02:04 PM (QoPXA)

Every proposition that makes it to the ballot has a special interest group behind it. It's all cui bono for me. Who gains / who loses if churches are allowed to have their bingo games professionally run? Who gains / who loses if e-cigarettes are taxed? Who gains / who loses if government agencies can expand their operating funds from private sources and the proceeds need not go through the general fund (e.g. legislative review)?

My going-in position, my default mind-set, on all of them is that I'm going to vote against it. Now let's see what it says......

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at November 28, 2020 02:20 PM (YPZzQ)

450 So is this vandy girl kicker like the retarded water boy for the high school team who gets to suit up after six years for senior night and since the team is losing by 80 points the other team lets him run up the middle and score?

Yes. Except for the scoring or materially contributing part.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:21 PM (yQpMk)

451 speed dial is master vol

Posted by: vizzy at November 28, 2020 02:22 PM (R/9t3)

452 Maybe it's my ears but I just never cottoned to the P-90.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 28, 2020 02:06 PM (EgshT)

obligatory: FN is a good manufacturer, but I admit the 5.7x28 can be loud

Posted by: Kindltot at November 28, 2020 02:23 PM (WyVLE)

453 Sometime in the last season or two the Carolina Hurricanes were forced to use a Toronto Zamboni driver in a game against the Maple Leafs. He went on to win the game.

Was he playing polo style?
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:18 PM (yQpMk)

Yeah pretty hard to check a Zamboni.

Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 28, 2020 02:23 PM (2DOZq)

454 Ah, here we go, it was Lester Patrick.

Patrick is famous for an incident which occurred on April 7, 1928, during Game 2 of the 1928 Stanley Cup Finals against the Montreal Maroons, while serving as coach and general manager of the Rangers. After starting goaltender Lorne Chabot suffered an eye injury after being hit by the puck in the middle of the second period, Patrick inserted himself into the game as the Rangers' new netminder, offering his now-teammates the words "Boys, don't let an old man down." At the age of 44 years, 99 days, Patrick remains today the oldest man to have played in the Stanley Cup Finals. At the time it was not common for teams to have a backup goaltender, and the opposing team's coach had to allow a substitute goaltender. However, Maroons manager-coach Eddie Gerard refused to give permission for the Rangers to use Alec Connell, the Ottawa Senators' star netminder who was in the stands, as well as minor-leaguer Hugh McCormick. Odie Cleghorn, the then-coach of the Pittsburgh Pirates, stood in for Patrick as coach for the remainder of the game, and directed the Rangers to check fiercely at mid-ice which limited the Maroon players to long harmless shots. Patrick saved 18 to 19 shots while allowing one goal in helping the Rangers to an overtime victory. For the next three games, the league gave permission for the Rangers to use Joe Miller from the New York Americans in goal. The Rangers went on to win the Stanley Cup; their first in franchise history.

Posted by: So sayeth Wikipedia at November 28, 2020 02:24 PM (BBWrU)

455 SHC

@CottonTWSHC
Replying to
@CodeMonkeyZ
"Dominion is a little-known foreign company engaged in Internet voting, and under $18 million in sales with NO reported INCOME."

How did it purchase Diebold in May 2010 and Sequoia Voting Systems which rely on proprietary source code developed and owned by Smartmatic in June 2010?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 02:25 PM (siY0G)

456 Some quick Duck Duck Go ing suggests the French Protests are about a new Security law that, among other things, makes it illegal to film the police (actually publishing the footage is what is punished), allows the police to fly drones with facial recognition capabilities, gives municipal police some access to private (think store security) cameras that was previously limited to federal police and has some clause about making it illegal to attend a university just to protest without progressing towards a degree.

These are just my probably flawed gleanings, my French is shite, but the whole thing looks like a series of measures to crack down on any and all protests against the government including some pretty sketchy measures.

Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at November 28, 2020 02:26 PM (Wm5SB)

457 if anyone reads French, here's a link to the Paris strikes:

https://tinyurl.com/ybjxpzk3
Posted by: kallisto

(raises hand)

I don't .

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 02:28 PM (arJlL)

458 As some other moron mentioned earlier today, the statute of limitations for murder is open. White collar crimes is 5-10 years. Fraud at the federal level influencing a national election? Two months.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at November 28, 2020 02:28 PM (k1L5r)

459 I'll be in and out.

Roll Tide if I don't see you again, Grump928C

Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at November 28, 2020 02:30 PM (k1L5r)

460 I have a early 70s marshall tremolo 50 watt

the trem was removed and the 2nd channel preamps the first Had it along time

Posted by: vizzy at November 28, 2020 02:15 PM (R/9t3)

I have a late 67/early 68 plexi 100 watt trem head that I redid by pulling out the trem board and updating the preamp to the later superlead curcuit. That was my main head for years. I got it in 1980 for $180 I had a dead mint 1970 small box 50 watter I should have kept. I still kick myself in the ass for getting rid of that.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:30 PM (9Om/r)

461 My first guitar was a Vox - glossy black, 2 humbuckers, heavy as all hell - the antithesis of the basswood guitars all the heavy metal rockers are tossing around like balsa wood. I chipped it once and it looks like the wood is red, though I don't know what species. The guitar sounds great. Paid about $200 for it in 1986 and still have it.

Posted by: SFGoth at November 28, 2020 02:30 PM (KAi1n)

462 Well on the other hand I got my 52 Tele for $900...

Posted by: MAxIE at November 28, 2020 02:31 PM (dVkJu)

463 >>Well on the other hand I got my 52 Tele for $900...

Jesus.

Nice.

I just sold mine last week.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:33 PM (+YxdH)

464
That's the really frustrating part. Pre-Facebook or so I can remember being able to easily search for things on google, especially with direct quotes. Hogmartin said he can remember playing games with his friends where you tried to search for something that would get the fewest results.

Now it's just pay us and you're on the front page, and our algorithms have determined you shouldn't want to read about the bad side of this woman kicker's historic moment.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - buy ammo, buy history books, and embrace Irish democracy at November 28, 2020 02:18 PM (k1L5r)

I've had mixed results, putting the search terms together in sql based terms. Select distinct "something", AND "somethingelse".

Posted by: BifBewalski AOS Moron at November 28, 2020 02:34 PM (VcFUs)

465 >>I chipped it once and it looks like the wood is red

Heavy and Red = Mahogany.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:35 PM (+YxdH)

466 >>> Sarah Fuller Vanderbilt "lose a scholarship"

is not allowed to be searched on duckduckgo and bing.
-----------------

Search engines are trash.
As distasteful as it is. Generally, Google will deliver better results. And they are information thieves.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 02:12 PM (CZm2G)

=====

My guess is if she is a scholarship player for the soccer team, she is a walk-on for the FB team

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 02:36 PM (bjBck)

467 Wish pet thread was early. I'm in a foul mood.

Posted by: Infidel at November 28, 2020 02:38 PM (QoPXA)

468 Saipan was within a few days of D-Day, literally on the other side of the world, and was not just a massive operation, but obviously conducted thousands of miles from friendly territory - not just 20+ miles, across the Channel. Making that juxtaposition a handy, and awesome, illustration of the logistical and operational power of the US (primarily) in the last year of WWII.
Posted by: rhomboid

Anna Puma would know.
Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 11:54 AM (arJlL)

Japanese has turned to defense in depth at Iwo, rather than beat them on the beaches. Trying to impose maximum number of casualties rather than actually trying to defend the island, still trying to force a negotiated settlement. Okinawa was more of the same, plus a civilian population.

Posted by: Fox2! at November 28, 2020 02:39 PM (qyH+l)

469 Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 02:05 PM (HrMC1)

You omitted they're complicit in the fraud.
Posted by: Captain Hate at November 28, 2020 02:08 PM (y7DUB)

That was implied, but yeah you're right.
Imagine all those blabbermouths keeping such a secret.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 02:39 PM (HrMC1)

470 What was "the greatest generation" before WWII?

Apparently there are several of you sterling damn examples of manhood-incarnate who have never been mustard-gassed. That's what makes those shell-shocked WWI doughboys seem like such sissies to you, right? Jesus Christ. How do you hold your head up in public?

If you've spent any time with the letters of Jefferson and Adams, and I presume you all must have, you'll know for sure that the prime function of each and every generation of American men has been, from the very beginning, listing the many ways in which they alone are made of The Stuff, and how the next generation after them are Not. True right though the nation's history, and never truer than the fat nasty damn slobs bitching about their kids now. It's...what we do. We never learn from the experience, we never get any smarter, and we never moderate the attitude. That would be like giving in.

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at November 28, 2020 02:40 PM (zMFmR)

471 My guess is if she is a scholarship player for the soccer team, she is a walk-on for the FB team

That's the point. If that were allowed, EVERYONE on the football team would be on scholarship.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:40 PM (yQpMk)

472 David Perdue
@Perduesenate
�
Nov 27
US Senate candidate, GA
President @realDonaldTrump
is right: no Republican can sit this election out. There's too much at stake.

Oh yeah, Dave? Watch me. Also? I quit the Republican party many many years ago because of shit just like this.

Loeffler and Perdue's FUD - filled Twitter sites have not even used the word "fraud" ONCE since election day.

Screw em. They can either get in front of the cameras and start pushing back on this fraudulent election or I'll sit back and laugh and watch Warnock and Ossoff stomp a mudhole in their asses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 02:40 PM (siY0G)

473 excellent analysis!

https://www.martingeddes.com/
the-digital-coup-and-the-great-exposure/

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 02:42 PM (83bQb)

474 >>I chipped it once and it looks like the wood is red

Heavy and Red = Mahogany.

Posted by: garrett at November 28, 2020 02:35 PM (+YxdH)

yup, no doubt.

Some of my mahogany guitars are light. I lucked out with the goldtop, thats 8lb 4oz, and the 55 custom is in the same area, 8lb 6oz. Some mahogany can be cement weight. Those Norlin era LPs can be like a bucket of bricks. lol

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:43 PM (9Om/r)

475 70th anniversary of Battle of Chosin. Congress had speeches urging General MacArthur to have authority to use the A-bomb.
Posted by: "Home by Christmas" didn't work out

"Sir ! The Red Chinese Army has the First Marine Division surrounded !"

"God help those chinamen."

Posted by: JT at November 28, 2020 02:44 PM (arJlL)

476 This Sarah Fuller thing is really chapping my ass.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:46 PM (yQpMk)

477 Screw em. They can either get in front of the cameras and start pushing back on this fraudulent election or I'll sit back and laugh and watch Warnock and Ossoff stomp a mudhole in their asses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 02:40 PM
-----------------------
Did you let them know that?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 28, 2020 02:46 PM (iEx0u)

478 My dad, who spent most of WWII as an undercover informant for the FBI in a munitions plant, and finished up in OCS, becoming an Army Air Force LT in 1945, would have turned 100 this month. He almost made 94.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 28, 2020 02:48 PM (5MLH0)

479 472
David Perdue
@Perduesenate

Nov 27
US Senate candidate, GA
President @realDonaldTrump
is right: no Republican can sit this election out. There's too much at stake.

Oh yeah, Dave? Watch me. Also? I quit the Republican party many many years ago because of shit just like this.

Loeffler and Perdue's FUD - filled Twitter sites have not even used the word "fraud" ONCE since election day.

Screw
em. They can either get in front of the cameras and start pushing back
on this fraudulent election or I'll sit back and laugh and watch Warnock
and Ossoff stomp a mudhole in their asses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson at November 28, 2020 02:40 PM (siY0G)

I would urge you to call on Monday and let them know exactly that. Also call your state legislators and tell them they need to step the frick up or they will face consequences too.

These two did call for Raffesperger to resign ONCE but have been silent since. They need to call out the fraud and insist the state fix it or they can dangle in the wind.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 02:48 PM (946rW)

480

Banned again huh? What'd I do this time...

Posted by: Biggus at November 28, 2020 02:49 PM (/Rqse)

481 Speaking of twitter, Andy Ngo (@MrAndyNgo) and Ian Miles Cheong (@stillgray) both have some interesting video clips/info concerning the Paris protests...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 28, 2020 02:50 PM (ZSK0i)

482

Oki is beautiful.

Posted by: Biggus at November 28, 2020 02:50 PM (c/0cj)

483
That's about the time CA Supremes started overthrowing the electorate.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 11:25 AM (CZm2G)
************
Actually that's going to work out for us elsewhere. Even if the 'electorate' is some made up fraud.

Posted by: torabora at November 28, 2020 02:51 PM (Y274z)

484 In fairness, the entire Vandy football team plays like girls.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:53 PM (yQpMk)

485 >>Screw em. They can either get in front of the cameras and start pushing back on this fraudulent election or I'll sit back and laugh and watch Warnock and Ossoff stomp a mudhole in their asses.

This took all of 5 seconds of searching. It might not use the exact words you want but the sentiment is there. Seems clear to me they are talking about a fraudulent election when they are demanding the SoS step down.

If Loeffler and Perdue lose they will still be millionaires. The rest of us will be stuck with Chuck Schumer running the Senate and you will be stuck with 2 AOC like senators.

I rarely get to vote for perfect candidates and usually get to vote for the least bad option for me.

https://tinyurl.com/y3w2pkfn

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)

486 Conclusion: from article is poetry https://www.martingeddes.com/ the-digital-coup-and-the-great-exposure/
===
I looked at ALL the data in this case, and changed my beliefs. You DID NOT, and stayed the same. This is why you have FAILED this test of sanity. Such failure needs to be confronted - because your false beliefs are dangerous to us all, since they perpetuate evil. The "short cut" the media (and academia) offered you was to a labyrinth of lies by assets of a criminal ruling class. You swallowed their lies willingly.

It was previously always easy to find a justification for your beliefs, another propaganda "talking point" to counter any data offered. A sneering and condescending attitude let you easily dismiss legitimate concerns as "extremist" or "conspiracy theories". By the time you read this, that's all finished. Gone. Over.

That you have been attacked by a ruthless transnational "supermafia" armed with weaponised psychology and a whole media industry is not your fault. That others had life experiences or innate character that brought them to question the "official narrative" more quickly is also not their personal virtue. You are not my enemy, and I am not yours. Our job is to come together, respectfully and responsibly, so that we may realign and heal.

For those who were deceived by the grand illusions on offer, you will find that those you laughed at will most likely welcome you back with open arms. The precondition is that you respect equality under the rule of law, and cease to put yourself on a pedestal where you are part of a superior social class entitled to judge others and look down upon them. It is time for you to be held to your stated values of kindness, tolerance, and inclusion.

For we all have a real war to fight against a real enemy who can do us real harm. A war of infiltration, founded on treachery, that has corroded and corrupted our society. A war against great deceptions that fuel endless violent conflict.

The Great Exposure has begun. It cannot be stopped by anybody. Lasting peace is our goal and prize.

Please unify with those who are already fighting for truth and justice.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 02:56 PM (83bQb)

487 >>> My guess is if she is a scholarship player for the soccer team, she is a walk-on for the FB team

That's the point. If that were allowed, EVERYONE on the football team would be on scholarship.
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:40 PM (yQpMk)

=======

There is two-sport athlete at U of Iowa. He plays basketball and baseball. Has a scholarship for basketball. He was offered one for baseball as well, but used the basketball because those are 100%. Baseball scholarships are split into percentages, with the minimum being 25%.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 02:56 PM (bjBck)

488 I would urge you to call on Monday and let them know
exactly that. Also call your state legislators and tell them they need
to step the frick up or they will face consequences too.

These
two did call for Raffesperger to resign ONCE but have been silent since.
They need to call out the fraud and insist the state fix it or they can
dangle in the wind.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 02:48 PM (946rW)

I'm watching Bannon's War Room. It sounds like the PA Republican legislators are stepping up. The ones in Georgia are MIA and the governor and SoS sound like Quislings.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 02:56 PM (+k5vA)

489
excellent analysis!

https://www.martingeddes.com/

the-digital-coup-and-the-great-exposure/

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 02:42 PM (83bQb)

After reading that, it moved, a lot.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:58 PM (9Om/r)

490

Quislings get the bullet. And furries.

Posted by: Natasha at November 28, 2020 02:58 PM (c/0cj)

491 I rarely get to vote for perfect candidates and usually get to vote for the least bad option for me.

https://tinyurl.com/y3w2pkfn
Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)

they will be removed after taking office so vote for them anyways. They will have to do what they are told until then. leverage is a thing right now.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 02:58 PM (83bQb)

492 I rarely get to vote for perfect candidates and usually get to vote for the least bad option for me.

https://tinyurl.com/y3w2pkfn

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 02:53 PM (ZLI7S)

Jack Straw, they have been completely silent on this since the 9th. If they were serious, they would be out daily holding Kemp's and Raffesperger's feet to the fire. Also, if the state fails to address the fraud from November, the Dems will just fraud their way in in January too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 02:58 PM (946rW)

493 excellent analysis!

https://www.martingeddes.com/

the-digital-coup-and-the-great-exposure/

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 02:42 PM (83bQb)

After reading that, it moved, a lot.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:58 PM (9Om/r)

Poetry, bro.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 02:59 PM (83bQb)

494 ""For those who were deceived by the grand illusions on offer, you will
find that those you laughed at will most likely welcome you back with
open arms. The precondition is that you respect equality under the rule
of law, and cease to put yourself on a pedestal where you are part of a
superior social class entitled to judge others and look down upon them.
It is time for you to be held to your stated values of kindness,
tolerance, and inclusion.
""

yeah, about that. I still want them thrown from helicopters.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 02:59 PM (9Om/r)

495 There is two-sport athlete at U of Iowa. He plays basketball and baseball.

As I understand it, if he also played football, in Division I or II, his scholarship would have to come out of the football quota.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 03:01 PM (yQpMk)

496 PET NOOD IS UP

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at November 28, 2020 03:02 PM (9sWOw)

497 Jack Straw, they have been completely silent on this
since the 9th. If they were serious, they would be out daily holding
Kemp's and Raffesperger's feet to the fire. Also, if the state fails to
address the fraud from November, the Dems will just fraud their way in
in January too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 02:58 PM (946rW)

From what they are saying on Bannon's show they want to turn the Trump rally into a rally for Loeffer and Perdue. And as Bannon said if they don't stand up for Trump the deplorables will not show up for them.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 03:02 PM (+k5vA)

498 Posted by: JackStraw

Yeah they squeaked a little about the SOS. So what?

The fact that they are running around the state campaigning for a run-off based on the results of a fraudulent election means that they have accepted the fraudulent results of the election.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:04 PM (siY0G)

499 >>> In fairness, the entire Vandy football team plays like girls.
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 02:53 PM (yQpMk)

======

My nephew took the Covid waiver this fall at Vandy. That way when he graduates in December he can enter the Transfer Portal he will have three years of eligibility remaining (redshirted, played soph, medical jr year) My sister was furious with Vandy, because when asked why he was opting out by the media, Mason said it was because of sour grapes from not getting good playing time.

Getting back to the kicker, are we to believe that there no male soccer athletes that they could have picked up? Sounds like virtue signaling on Mason's way out the door.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 03:06 PM (bjBck)

500 I don't need perfect, candidates, Jack. But when I have a tiny bit of leverage I will apply it.

And I have been ringing State Senators and Representatives phone off the hook along with Kung Pao Kemp, Raffensperger , Beijing Barbie and Perdue.

Funny, no one has returned my calls or messages

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:06 PM (siY0G)

501 Screw em. They can either get in front of the cameras and start pushing
back on this fraudulent election or I'll sit back and laugh and watch
Warnock and Ossoff stomp a mudhole in their asses.
You do realize that the Senate GOP majority is the only thing to possibly stop the Communists from having total power if Biden wins don't you? You do know the Communists if, they gain control of the Senate by winning those two Georgia seats, plan to make DC and Puerto Rico states giving them permanent control of the Senate, and also plan to pack the Supreme court don't you? Seems to me, that the utter destruction of the country, is a pretty high price to pay, so that you can have the luxury of punishing somebody who doesn't pass your political purity test.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 28, 2020 03:07 PM (5MLH0)

502 >>Jack Straw, they have been completely silent on this since the 9th. If they were serious, they would be out daily holding Kemp's and Raffesperger's feet to the fire. Also, if the state fails to address the fraud from November, the Dems will just fraud their way in in January too.

Assuming they are, how does that change the fact that if they both win Chuck Schumer becomes Senate Majority Leader? We elect people to represent us. Some of them are great, most are mediocre and some are freaking disasters.

Even if they are only mediocre at best are they better that radical communists?

As we all discussed in 2016, endlessly, general elections are a binary exercise. Column A or Column B. There is no Column C hiding a better alternative. If people in GA are angry they should blame themselves for only giving themselves these options now.

Because here we are. You can either vote for mediocrity and try to hold the line or you can vote for radical coummists which you do by sitting out and the real losers will be us.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 03:07 PM (ZLI7S)

503 Because here we are. You can either vote for
mediocrity and try to hold the line or you can vote for radical
coummists which you do by sitting out and the real losers will be us.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 03:07 PM (ZLI7S)

This, 1000X this, and nothing but fucking this!

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 03:09 PM (9Om/r)

504 >>> As I understand it, if he also played football, in Division I or II, his scholarship would have to come out of the football quota.
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 03:01 PM (yQpMk

=====

Possibly, I wouldn't know that. But she can play without a scholarship. My niece's husband earned a starting position at Iowa State as a walk-on. Started and played the rest of the season without a scholarship. He was put on a scholarship the following season.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 03:10 PM (bjBck)

505 You do realize that the Senate GOP majority is the only thing to
possibly stop the Communists from having total power if Biden wins don't
you?

Incorrect. If Biden wins the Communists have already achieved total power.

The Senate won't even make a serviceable speedbump.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:10 PM (siY0G)

506 Screw em. They can either get in front of the cameras and start pushing

back on this fraudulent election or I'll sit back and laugh and watch

Warnock and Ossoff stomp a mudhole in their asses.
You do
realize that the Senate GOP majority is the only thing to possibly stop
the Communists from having total power if Biden wins don't you? You do
know the Communists if, they gain control of the Senate by winning those
two Georgia seats, plan to make DC and Puerto Rico states giving them
permanent control of the Senate, and also plan to pack the Supreme court
don't you? Seems to me, that the utter destruction of the country, is a
pretty high price to pay, so that you can have the luxury of punishing
somebody who doesn't pass your political purity test.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 28, 2020 03:07 PM (5MLH0)

You do realize that if the fraud stands, there will never be another election where the voters actually choose their representatives again don't you? Lucy is not ever going to let you kick the football Charlie Brown.

Despite what the idiot GOP believes in GA, this is not either or. If they do not address the fraud, the fraud will decide the January election too AND they will have removed any incentive for us deplorables to support them anyway.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 03:12 PM (946rW)

507 My dear departed mom gave me advice years ago that has served me well.

You don't bite off your nose to spite your face.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 03:12 PM (9Om/r)

508 >>Incorrect. If Biden wins the Communists have already achieved total power.

>>The Senate won't even make a serviceable speedbump.

For all the shit he gets Obama got almost nothing done with McConnell running the Senate and was forced to retreat to his pen and phone.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 03:13 PM (ZLI7S)

509

2001 - Because here we are. You can either vote for mediocrity and try to hold
the line or you can vote for radical coummists which you do by sitting
out and the real losers will be us.
2004 - Because here we are. You can either vote for mediocrity and try to hold
the line or you can vote for radical coummists which you do by sitting
out and the real losers will be us.

2008 - Because here we are. You can either vote for mediocrity and try to hold
the line or you can vote for radical coummists which you do by sitting
out and the real losers will be us.

2012 - Because here we are. You can either vote for mediocrity and try to hold
the line or you can vote for radical coummists which you do by sitting
out and the real losers will be us.
2020 -Because here we are. You can either vote for mediocrity and try to hold
the line or you can vote for radical coummists which you do by sitting
out and the real losers will be us.

Yeah, sensing a definite pattern here.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:15 PM (siY0G)

510 " With the expanded means for delivering death penalty for treason"

Oh heart be still

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 03:15 PM (9sWOw)

511 >>Yeah, sensing a definite pattern here.

Then sit out. But don't complain about a Senate under Schumer.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 03:15 PM (ZLI7S)

512 Despite what the idiot GOP believes in GA, this is not either or. If
they do not address the fraud, the fraud will decide the January
election too AND they will have removed any incentive for us deplorables
to support them anyway.

THIS x 1000

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:16 PM (siY0G)

513
" With the expanded means for delivering death penalty for treason"

Oh heart be still

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 03:15 PM (9sWOw)

Right? I swear it moved when I got to that part.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 03:16 PM (9Om/r)

514 Noticing is contagious.

https://tinyurl.com/yxpfxx5b

Yes! Entire down ballot was rigged! Look at your local election results for proof. We we had as many votes for our DA race as we did for the presidential, but none of the other races, you know it was rigged. All Soros backed races. They took 4 DA seats in GA.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 03:18 PM (83bQb)

515 " With the expanded means for delivering death penalty for treason"

Oh heart be still

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 03:15 PM (9sWOw)

Right? I swear it moved when I got to that part.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at November 28, 2020 03:16 PM (9Om/r)

I like the sound of that.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 03:18 PM (946rW)

516 Then sit out. But don't complain about a Senate under Schumer.

So you have already conceded that the election will be stolen.
Again, if we the People are not the government of this country it does not matter one fucking bit who's fat pampered ass sits in the Senate.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:19 PM (siY0G)

517 Katie Hnida is wondering why the fuss over Sarah, 16 years after Katie was put on the CU football team as a gimmick by a coach who left the next year and left the new coach with the problem.

Then Hnida went to U. NewMexico.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 03:20 PM (NOk+L)

518 Honestly, do you think the results will hold in a Georgia run off considering the entire state and every country in playing by Smartmetic/Dominion rules? Vote Republican and still raise hell until then. Neverforget.
I would not doubt if the state is declared to be in a state of insurrection by then.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 03:22 PM (83bQb)

519 Katie Hnida is wondering why the fuss over Sarah, 16 years after Katie was put on the CU football team as a gimmick by a coach who left the next year and left the new coach with the problem.

Hnida actually scored too.

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 03:23 PM (yQpMk)

520 heh.

Cosmic Dragon Randbrick
@HitherToFore
5h
Replying to @HitherToFore and @PereGrimmer
The only thing Jonah Goldberg ever proved is the danger of an overbearing mother.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:24 PM (siY0G)

521
For all the shit he gets Obama got almost nothing done with McConnell running the Senate and was forced to retreat to his pen and phone.
Posted by: JackStraw

Except for getting all his evil nominees confirmed and allowing the full weaponization of the DOJ.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 03:25 PM (OLaIa)

522
*except for Merrick Garland

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 03:25 PM (OLaIa)

523 Oh I wrong on my dates. Hnida had already gone to NM in 2003 and scored in some game. Probly put on CU team in 2001. I felt so bad for the coach that had to deal with Hnida after Rick Neuheisal moved on to cheat for a bigger program.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 28, 2020 03:26 PM (NOk+L)

524 Then sit out. But don't complain about a Senate under Schumer.

So you have already conceded that the election will be stolen.
Again, if we the People are not the government of this country it does not matter one fucking bit who's fat pampered ass sits in the Senate.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:19 PM (siY0G)

Dude, things are playing out. Do you really believe the run off will happen under 100% foreign and IC owned Smartmatic/Dominion? Have you read Trumps EO 13848 preserving federal elections Trump signed. The report is use December 18th.
The runoff is January 5th. That is almost 40 days from now. over 60% of the country believes the elections were rigged. it has been 3 weeks.
Things are happening.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 03:28 PM (83bQb)

525 Except for getting all his evil nominees confirmed and allowing the full weaponization of the DOJ.

And the DOD. And the CIA. And the NSA. And the State Department. And the IRS. And the EPA.

We lose this it is OVER. It does no good to pretens that Loeffler and Perdue winning a fake runoff based on a fraudulent election is somehow going to backstop a failure to overturn this bullshit election.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:29 PM (siY0G)

526 As we all discussed in 2016, endlessly, general elections are a binary
exercise. Column A or Column B. There is no Column C hiding a better
alternative. If people in GA are angry they should blame themselves for
only giving themselves these options now.

---

I'm not sure why we're supposed to blame voters for the outcomes of elections now that we know elections results are mostly prefabricated.

Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2020 03:32 PM (kOpft)

527
The Republican "majority" will confirm ALL of biden's noms.

So fuck 'em.

Posted by: Soothsayer's Untrue But Accurate Tales at November 28, 2020 03:36 PM (OLaIa)

528 >>So you have already conceded that the election will be stolen.
Again, if we the People are not the government of this country it does not matter one fucking bit who's fat pampered ass sits in the Senate.

Yea, I get accused of being a huge pessimist here all the time.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 28, 2020 03:37 PM (ZLI7S)

529 Despite what the idiot GOP believes in GA, this is not either or. If
they do not address the fraud, the fraud will decide the January
election too AND they will have removed any incentive for us deplorables
to support them anyway.
---
Yup, it's an issue of mathematics. The communists already know the level of fraud they need to beat Trumpian levels of turnout. Without Trump, our side's turnout will be less than that and China's candidates will win.

If you wan Trump's supporters to turn out, the campaign issue cannot be marginally slowing down Joe Biden, because if Biden is installed, the only practical goal is to get things bad enough fast enough that there is no choice but a second revolution to eliminate the federal government and its supporters.

Instead, the issue must be preventing Schumer's senate from voting to impeach him.

Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2020 03:39 PM (kOpft)

530 Dude, things are playing out. Do you really believe the run off will
happen under 100% foreign and IC owned Smartmatic/Dominion?

I didn't believe that the Presidential election would happen using 100% foreign and IC owned Smartmatic/Dominion.
Shows what I know. But I will tell you that lots of people I know are ready to quit voting. That's not FUD or dooming that's just real.

The whole premise of this country is that We the People are the government. THAT's what's a stake here. If Loeffler and Perdue want my vote, they will have to acknowledge this and show that they are fighting for something other than their US Senate Club Membership.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:40 PM (siY0G)

531

Yea, Alabama! Drown 'em Tide!
Every 'Bama man's behind you,
Hit your stride.
Go teach the Bulldogs to behave,
Send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave.
And if a man starts to weaken,
That's a shame!
For Bama's pluck and grit have
Writ her name in Crimson flame.
Fight on, fight on, fight on men!
Remember the Rose Bowl, we'll win then.
Go, roll to victory,
Hit your stride,
You're Dixie's football pride,
Crimson Tide, Roll Tide, Roll Tide!!

Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 03:40 PM (yQpMk)

532 DJDowns @donnajdowns 2h
Replying to @GovKemp

Not time to shop. It's time for you to call a special assembly of the Georgia legislature. And you need to respond to the serious charges that @LLinWood has made. Your silence (and the evidence) makes this lifetime GA resident and former supporter think you're guilty. #corrupt

Lin Wood @LLinWood 2h

Governor Kemp @BrianKempGA does not deserve to live in Governor's Mansion on West Paces Ferry Road in Atlanta.

Kemp only deserves to live in a federal prison.
--------------

Burn the phone lines.
Call you legislators, GA.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 03:41 PM (CZm2G)

533 Burn the phone lines.

Call you legislators, GA.

Just be aware that most of their voice mail boxes are full. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:42 PM (siY0G)

534 Just be aware that most of their voice mail boxes are full. Ask me how I know.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:42 PM (siY0G)
------------

Use your fax machine. Litter the office with faxes.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 03:44 PM (CZm2G)

535 I bet the CCP printed these.

https://tinyurl.com/y2xpm9p5

BREAKING EXCLUSIVE: THOUSANDS of Fake Votes Found at Wisconsin Recount in Dane County - Photos and Report from GOP Observer

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 03:49 PM (83bQb)

536 PA legislators (at start of session the other day) mentioned that prior to election almost all calls were about COVID-related stuff - now almost all about the election, and in much more volume.

Posted by: Must be those Russian-bot robo-callers at November 28, 2020 03:50 PM (BBWrU)

537 >>> Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 28, 2020 03:40 PM (yQpMk)

=======

Just got done reading through a Vandy fb message board. You are not alone in your thoughts on this season.

Also read up on S. Fuller. Turns out she was available because the women's soccer team season just wrapped up. And this was probably also a one time thing. But still, had to be some kind of publicity stunt, because as was mentioned on the message board, several current players have said that they kicked for their HS teams. Why not use one of them? Good news, though, at least they didn't have to burn a scholarship on her.

So, does Mason survive the season?

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 03:53 PM (bjBck)

538 530 Dude, things are playing out. Do you really believe the run off will
happen under 100% foreign and IC owned Smartmatic/Dominion?

I didn't believe that the Presidential election would happen using 100% foreign and IC owned Smartmatic/Dominion.
Shows what I know. But I will tell you that lots of people I know are ready to quit voting. That's not FUD or dooming that's just real.

The whole premise of this country is that We the People are the government. THAT's what's a stake here. If Loeffler and Perdue want my vote, they will have to acknowledge this and show that they are fighting for something other than their US Senate Club Membership.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:40 PM (siY0G)

You can leverage the hell out of them after voting for them. The GOP is fucked on a national and most local levels just like the DNC. The Michigan lawsuit has 731 pages of exhibits! The Georgia Lawsuit compliments it.

Cobb County Republican Committee has joined Sidney Powell's lawsuit. There is another lawsuit filed by the Thomas Moore society in 5 states and growing. Then Lin Wood's lawsuit. That's just Georgia. That's in 3 weeks.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 03:54 PM (83bQb)

539 Lin Wood @LLinWood 2h

Governor Kemp @BrianKempGA does not deserve to live in Governor's Mansion on West Paces Ferry Road in Atlanta.

Kemp only deserves to live in a federal prison.

You want to know why Loeffler and Perdue are playing along with this fake run-off bullshit and dodging the cameras and avoiding statements on election fraud?

Because if they admit that the election was fraudulent their buddies Gov Brian and SOS Brad will go to PMITA prison.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 03:55 PM (siY0G)

540 Miles Guo: Pre.Trump will win this election!

But Pre. Trump's safety is at risk from the CCP.
Xi said the 2020 Election is the Endgame btw the US and China. The CCP wants to ensure Biden win at all costs. Founder Group of the CCP is behind Smartmatic Software of Election fraud

https://twitter.com/i/status/1330691928791236610

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 03:58 PM (CZm2G)

541 Excellent summary of Michigan filed exhibits. Must read and spread it around to people and elected officials in your state.

https://tinyurl.com/yykl7xat

@PandaTribune

Evidence of Massive Election Fraud

A few (of over a hundred) Michigan Exhibits from
@SidneyPowell1
legal filing

These are just a handful of the exhibits, but they are serious, damning, and credible.

The thread below gets more shocking with every exhibit 1/

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 03:59 PM (83bQb)

542 You can leverage the hell out of them after voting for them.

Sheesh. It's like clockwork. Every 4 years Old Glory Insurance reps try to sell me a policy to protect me from evil robots that eat old people's medicine.

Your vote IS your leverage.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 04:02 PM (siY0G)

543 >>>https://twitter.com/i/status/1330691928791236610
Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 03:58 PM (CZm2G)

======

I am sure it's been mentioned here, but why as of late, when I paste a twitter link into my firefox browser on my iPhone it will now say "this tweet not available to you". Of course, when I hit refresh it goes through to the tweet. And this only started happening in the last two weeks.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:03 PM (bjBck)

544 The majority party controls the senate.
What comes before the senate and what does not.
The majority party controls committees.

If the Democrats become the majority in the senate
Katy bar the door.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 04:06 PM (CZm2G)

545 Berzerka, I also wanted more sustain so I added an 8 ohm resistor to handle the speaker load and ran the line out to a solid state qsc(pretty shitty) power amp
How do ya tthink that worked out?

Posted by: vizzy at November 28, 2020 04:06 PM (R/9t3)

546 " With the expanded means for delivering death penalty for treason"

-----

He misspelled "expedited"

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 28, 2020 04:06 PM (/Dgcm)

547 And this only started happening in the last two weeks.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:03 PM (bjBck)

Everyone's.
It's a gatekeeper technique.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 04:07 PM (CZm2G)

548 Which Domino (state) will fall first?

https://tinyurl.com/yxuvov4x

WI recount is about to enter its second phase where illegal ballots found by Trump team will now be challenged.
WI requires written request for mail in ballots. Trump team found 100k + ballots with no written request on record rendering all these ballots invalid. Stay Tuned

https://tinyurl.com/y3k9n2q5

@General2Scoops

The Wisconsin recount is not about finding mistakes in the count, it is about finding people who have voted illegally, and that case will be brought after the recount is over, on Monday or Tuesday. We have found many illegal votes. Stay tuned!

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 04:08 PM (83bQb)

549 I really should call or email someone in Harrisburg

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 04:09 PM (9sWOw)

550 Unless the courts rule that a voter does not have standing to sue, Lin Wood is going to win his lawsuit in Georgia.
The PA judge sent a memorandum that Trump is likely to prevail in his lawsuit calling the PA election unconstitutional.
Both of these suits are winners because the Constitution is clear that Legislatures have to set the federal election standards in the states. In both PA and GA the executive branch unconstitutionally set the election procedures.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 28, 2020 04:10 PM (5MLH0)

551 Miles Guo: Pre.Trump will win this election!

I believe this too. If I didn't I would be working on my immigration paperwork to somewhere tropical and cheap.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 04:11 PM (siY0G)

552 @nypost Nov 27

Dr. Fauci, Andrew Cuomo, AOC nominated for Time's 'Person of the Year'
https://trib.al/gnQNbxw

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 04:15 PM (CZm2G)

553
I really should call or email someone in Harrisburg

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 04:09 PM (9sWOw)

State Senator Doug Mastriano was on Bannon's show again. He said it's getting the leadership to act. He said there are 4 that need to get on board. One he said is but the other 3 are 50/50. The other issue is the month off the PA legislature takes after an election. They have to find a way around that and seat the people who were elected now (the Republicans picked up seats) so Mastriano hopes if they can get them seated and moving forward next week with more Republicans they can move forward.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 04:15 PM (0A5ZP)

554 Mrs D was bitching about the awful noise in her car.
I took out the Mariah Carey CD.
Fixed it.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 28, 2020 04:17 PM (axyOa)

555 I am sure it's been mentioned here, but why as of late, when I paste a twitter link into my firefox browser on my iPhone it will now say "this tweet not available to you". Of course, when I hit refresh it goes through to the tweet. And this only started happening in the last two weeks.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:03 PM (bjBck)

I suspect they really really want you to use the twitter app.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 28, 2020 04:17 PM (/Dgcm)

556 549 I really should call or email someone in Harrisburg
Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 04:09 PM (9sWOw)

Do both.
I like faxes. Even if they know what it says they must look at the paper and touch it in order to dispose of it.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 04:19 PM (CZm2G)

557 >>>I suspect they really really want you to use the twitter app.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 28, 2020 04:17 PM (/Dgcm)

======

Yeah, I got rid of twitter back in sept. Haven't missed it. Not going back.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:20 PM (bjBck)

558 All my local representatives are Democrats, not likely to help

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 04:20 PM (9sWOw)

559 i'm 56 years old and I was born into a world where those WW2 vets were in control of society, my earliest memories as a child were of the stable, sane and free world that they built.

I really miss those times

Posted by: Shoey at November 28, 2020 04:23 PM (hmNVd)

560 All my local representatives are Democrats, not likely to help

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 04:20 PM (9sWOw)

Then call and write all of the R representatives in your state. They do not need to know who your actual rep is.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 04:23 PM (946rW)

561 Could one of the Republicans in my county

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 04:27 PM (9sWOw)

562

Another of my disappearing flash tweets on Twitter psychological operations by the deepstate. I mostly observe in silence.

In 15 min this will be gone. Another of their subjects is angry. Been increasing in frequency. I have my popcorn handy.
(See screenshots at links)

https://tinyurl.com/y3me9pno

https://tinyurl.com/y6anw8qf

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 04:28 PM (83bQb)

563 https://tinyurl.com/y5kfv6lm

"China wants to have somebody sitting in a big control room in Beijing with a set of screens in front of them looking at every computer system in the US on a real-time bases..Not just computer systems, but also every Internet of Things System, every cellphone system..."

Is China Seeking A Secretive, Permanent Presence in America's Computers? (Yes)

https://tinyurl.com/y68owm4o

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 04:32 PM (83bQb)

564 >>> https://tinyurl.com/y3me9pno

https://tinyurl.com/y6anw8qf
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 04:28 PM (83bQb)

======

Appear to be gone.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:32 PM (bjBck)

565 Worth noting, it is possible that the RINOS lose their runoffs and Trump overturns the sham. Do you really want the repub majority (and all of those things that Trump needs to make his second term successful like Court picks, replacing shitty cabinet members, etc) to be dependent on Mitt fucking Romney not flipping like the Judas he is?

Posted by: Jackal at November 28, 2020 04:33 PM (yicZh)

566 Appear to be gone.
Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:32 PM (bjBck)

=======

Cripes. That almost sounds like a Yogi-ism.

Posted by: Swingin' for the downs at November 28, 2020 04:34 PM (bjBck)

567 It was there until it wasn't.

Posted by: DELETED at November 28, 2020 04:36 PM (BBWrU)

568 I like faxes. Even if they know what it says they must look at the paper and touch it in order to dispose of it.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 04:19 PM (CZm2G)

Most faxes are digital these days. So they will be treated very much like emails.

Posted by: db at November 28, 2020 04:38 PM (E0PSG)

569 Worth noting, it is possible that the RINOS lose their runoffs and Trump overturns the sham.

If the sham is overturned, then the resulting run-offs based on the sham should be invalidated too.

Otherwise what you are asking Georgia voters to do is a) accept that their votes were flushed down the Dominion/vote fraud toilet and b) flush yet another vote in the run-off down the Dominion/vote fraud toilet.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 04:39 PM (siY0G)

570 Worth noting, it is possible that the RINOS lose
their runoffs and Trump overturns the sham. Do you really want the repub
majority (and all of those things that Trump needs to make his second
term successful like Court picks, replacing shitty cabinet members,
etc) to be dependent on Mitt fucking Romney not flipping like the Judas
he is?

Posted by: Jackal at November 28, 2020 04:33 PM (yicZh)

No we absolutely do not want that. But I think it is magical thinking to expect different, non-fraudulent, results from the runoff when Kemp, Raffesperger and even some of the GOPE senators have their heads firmly buried in the sand (or the backside of the RINO next to them) and refuse to address the fraud.

I also think the RINOs are showing utter contempt for their voters right now.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 04:42 PM (946rW)

571 i'm 56 years old and I was born into a world where those WW2 vets were in control of society, my earliest memories as a child were of the stable, sane and free world that they built.

I really miss those times
Posted by: Shoey at November 28, 2020 04:23 PM (hmNVd)

Nicely put

Posted by: JoeF. at November 28, 2020 04:44 PM (HrMC1)

572 Happening Threads everywhere! enjoy!

https://tinyurl.com/yxgzy5oo

@rising_serpent

1. This is absolutely wild.
Did you know that the most comprehensive, detailed and well articulated exposal of the dangers inherent in the wdespread implementation of electronic voting systems came from a Democrat, and a it happened a decade ago way back in 2010? cont..

2. John C. Bonifaz is an attorney and political activist specializing in constitutional law and voting rights.
He also ran for Secretary of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts in 2006 as a Democrat.
(Just so we can dispense with the 'right-wing conspiracy theory' right now) cont..

https://tinyurl.com/y5nygcxv

34. There were no bugs. Only features. And these were long known to have existed.
-Fin

Replying to
@rising_serpent
Full document and h/t to
@CodeMonkeyZ
quote tweet

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 04:47 PM (83bQb)

573 I tried. It was deleted.
Enjoying the show though.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 04:50 PM (83bQb)

574 No we absolutely do not want that. But I think it is
magical thinking to expect different, non-fraudulent, results from the
runoff when Kemp, Raffesperger and even some of the GOPE senators have
their heads firmly buried in the sand (or the backside of the RINO next
to them) and refuse to address the fraud.

I also think the RINOs are showing utter contempt for their voters right now.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 04:42 PM (946rW)

Kemp and Ratsberger seem like they are only too happy to have the cheat happen. Word is they are in on the Dominion scam. It's long past time to flush these turds away.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 28, 2020 04:51 PM (ekmlY)

575 Worth noting, it is possible that the RINOS lose their runoffs and Trump overturns the sham.

If the sham is overturned, then the resulting run-offs based on the sham should be invalidated too.

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Not exactly. If it were possible to throw out the illegal votes, maybe. IF GA gets a SCOTUS ruling to toss all the mail-ins for the laundry list of reasons they should be excluded, then probably (I don't know the specific mail-in situation in GA). But it appears the Trump team strategy is to push for state legislators to directly appoint electors, since as a remedy that can be done in every state. That only fixes the Presidential race, so you'd still have the runoffs to contend with.

Of course if that happens, we'll know before the runoff and they can run on impeachment protection, which is a reasonable motivation for Trump voters.

Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2020 04:51 PM (kOpft)

576 December 6, 2019

Senators Elizabeth Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Ron Wyden, and congressman Mark Pocan wrote a letter requesting information about Domincan and Staple Street Investment regarding vote manipulation.

"We are particularly concerned that secretive and "trouble-plagued companies," owned by private equity firms and responsible for manufacturing and maintaining voting machines and other election administration equipment, "have long skimped on security in favor of convenience," leaving voting systems across the country "prone to security problems." In light of these concerns, we request that you provide information about your firm....""

reports of machines

"switching votes,"
"undisclosed vulnerabilities,"
"improbable results that threaten the integrity of our elections."

https://tinyurl.com/yyua9orj

Posted by: Braenyard at November 28, 2020 04:53 PM (CZm2G)

577 Not exactly. If it were possible to throw out the
illegal votes, maybe. IF GA gets a SCOTUS ruling to toss all the
mail-ins for the laundry list of reasons they should be excluded, then
probably (I don't know the specific mail-in situation in GA). But it
appears the Trump team strategy is to push for state legislators to
directly appoint electors, since as a remedy that can be done in every
state. That only fixes the Presidential race, so you'd still have the
runoffs to contend with.

Of course if that happens, we'll know
before the runoff and they can run on impeachment protection, which is a
reasonable motivation for Trump voters.

Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2020 04:51 PM (kOpft)

I think at least one of the suits in GA is requesting non-certification of all down ticket races too.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 04:54 PM (946rW)

578 2010 Letter to NIST (national standards) Tech Guidelines Committee

The recent developments addressed in this letter are (1) federal charges against voting systems company Diebold and its former chief executive officer Walden W. O'Dell with fraud, during the years in which Diebold made, sold and serviced voting systems, and in which O'Dell wrote a letter in which he said he would deliver Ohio for then-President George Bush in the 2004 Presidential Election;

https://tinyurl.com/y5hnwgde

Posted by: Dubya had it Fixed & Rigged at November 28, 2020 04:56 PM (BBWrU)

579 One interesting development that may or may not help Trump: Jill Stein has had a suit ongoing against WI since 2016 that the voting machine manufacturer has been blocking resolution of. A court just recently (in the last week or two) smacked down the manufacturer's motion to keep their code secret.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 05:01 PM (946rW)

580 The Trump side is going to win the Constitutional argument in lawsuits in both PA and GA. Those states will have to go to their legislatures. Their 36 electoral votes move Trump to 268. The rejected ballots in the WI recount/audit will invalidate that election, also sending it to the Republican legislature. Those 10 votes move his total to 278 and the win. That is without proving any of the massive election fraud anywhere.

Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 28, 2020 05:03 PM (5MLH0)

581 I think at least one of the suits in GA is requesting non-certification of all down ticket races too.
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Right, it depends on what judges can be convinced to do first.

I just mean, based on the video Giuliani released yesterday, Trump's folks are looking to get suits from as many states as possible, ideally all six currently discussed, to SCOTUS, and then combine the cases and make the argument that there was an organized nationwide effort to steal the election, so the remedy ought to be applied to all six (which gives them some wiggle room as far as gope fuckery goes).

But other suits might accomplish other things, which is why, I think, Wood and Powell are operating 'independently.'

Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2020 05:04 PM (kOpft)

582
I just mean, based on the video Giuliani
released yesterday, Trump's folks are looking to get suits from as many
states as possible, ideally all six currently discussed, to SCOTUS, and
then combine the cases and make the argument that there was an organized
nationwide effort to steal the election, so the remedy ought to be
applied to all six (which gives them some wiggle room as far as gope
fuckery goes).

But other suits might accomplish other things, which is why, I think, Wood and Powell are operating 'independently.'

Posted by: Methos at November 28, 2020 05:04 PM (kOpft)

I think you are right and the SCOTUS decision will not preclude other solutions. I think any R who lost a down ticket race in an implicated state is a damn fool if they are not getting involved now.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 05:09 PM (946rW)

583 Still think it will take 1 state to turn, others might follow.

Posted by: Skip at November 28, 2020 05:17 PM (9sWOw)

584 Take a look a the White House portrait of Hw Bush, who was rumored (confirmed) to be a major player in the assassination of JFK. How do you think he became the head of the CIA?

He rubs it in your face. His head blocks out Lincoln. The Globe latitude line falls on Dallas Texas. Can you find anything else symbolic? It's obvious what he is saying. Evil rules through apathy, which is why they do things out in the open. they believe they are relieved of the (Karma) if/when people refuse to do anything about it.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/
photos/george-h-w-bush

Since the dawn of mankind, communication has been through signaling and symbolism through all mediums imaginable.

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 05:25 PM (83bQb)

585 https://tinyurl.com/y3obf6ef

Remember all year long when US Customs and Border Protection kept intercepting thousands of fake IDS heading here from China. . .

How many did they miss? (pics)

Posted by: bat nationalist at November 28, 2020 05:28 PM (83bQb)

586 A court just recently (in the last week or two) smacked down the manufacturer's motion to keep their code secret.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 28, 2020 05:01 PM (946rW)

The fact that a voting machine manufacturer would insist that they use proprietary technology/processes invalidates the the legitimacy of an election.

Not that Jill Stein would have been the 'winner' but a third party (even one I do not care about) needs votes to show actual popularity to survive and grow. It would benefit both major parties to suppress third party votes.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 28, 2020 05:50 PM (/Dgcm)

587 Guess I am not alone.

Lin Wood@LLinWood

1h
I agree with Brook.
......
Brook Trout
@JeffBauer66
It's time for all Republican and conservative voters to forget the GA senate runoff elections until all Republicans in GA and the US Senate get behind President Trump. If they can't give them their support after the fraud, why support any Republican? Screw em

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 28, 2020 07:23 PM (siY0G)

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