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Dominion Voting Systems Reassures the Public That the Election Was Fair and Legal By... Abruptly Backing Out of a Pennsylvania State House Hearing and Lawyering Up
Ohhhhh. I was thinking the Dominion angle was a dry hole. But then they backed out of answering questions that they must answer. Are you reassured?Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee. At a press conference Friday morning, State Govt Committee Chair Seth Grove said the 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used Dominion's voting machines have been "hung out to dry and slapped in their faces." Pennsylvania lawmakers had scheduled the hearing with the voting machine manufacturer "to help identify and correct any irregularities in the election process," according to the House Republican Caucus.
... Dominion had initially agreed to attend the hearing, before it "abruptly canceled," Grove said. "I was impressed at what appeared to be the willingness that Dominion Voting Systems to address accusations and it would have put 1.3. million Pennsylvanians who used their machines at ease--including myself, thinking that Dominion was willing to publicly back up their product which PA taxpayers invested millions to purchase" he noted during the presser. "Unfortunately, last evening, Dominion Voting Systems lawyered up, and backed out of their commitment to the people of Pennsylvania to provide their input in a public format." Grove blasted the company for "retreating into the darkness," rather than appearing at the hearing with "honesty and integrity."
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chillin
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:03 PM (sfhL4)
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There's video of these creeps messing with machines as recently as a couple of days ago.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:03 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sfhL4)
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Yeah - that all sounded like crazy heist-movie stuff, but once Dominion starts behaving like they're actually in a heist movie, maybe it's time to rethink.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sfhL4)
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Whoa
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (Do5/p)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
To be fair, we don't really know how many have offered their services. That takes a LOT of coordination, and I'm sure it's happening on a state by state county by county basis. They've barely had a bit over 2 weeks to get on this. Hopefully the ducks are being lined up.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
To be fair, we don't really know how many have offered their services. That takes a LOT of coordination, and I'm sure it's happening on a state by state county by county basis. They've barely had a bit over 2 weeks to get on this. Hopefully the ducks are being lined up.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (8B6Ng)
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Wolf decertified all of the election equipment? When did that happen?
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (J70i0)
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Dominion Dies in Darkness.
Posted by: ShainS at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (AL6I1)
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (4tiP2)
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Nothing to see here, move along.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (cMXNt)
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Lawyering up?Maybe they are gonna sue for defamation like they were taunted to do
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (Zmnko)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
Self-preservation? Maybe they have families they want to keep safe.
What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
Self-preservation? Maybe they have families they want to keep safe.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (4JM5Y)
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I nooded the rabble
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (J70i0)
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Trying to hide until after the electoral vote count is done.
They will then declare Biden the new Prezzy, and ALL the investigations will go away.
We cannot trust our own Government.
They will then declare Biden the new Prezzy, and ALL the investigations will go away.
We cannot trust our own Government.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (NgKpN)
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repost from early morning thread re Powell, but relevant
But there Sidney stood fearlessly on television, her voice quavering a little at the enormity of the evil she has helped to uncover. Meanwhile the Vichy-conservatives over at National Review and other "squish" venues sniped at her, and at Rudolph Giuliani, who faced down the hitmen of the New York Mafia, then broke its back. One called the Trump team "unhinged," and sniffed at its lack of "dignity."
Fox News reporter Kristin Fisher called Mr. Giuliani a "liar."
Sniffy Vichy Conservatives
If you think your country's elections are being stolen, and your main concern is for keeping your "dignity," then I don't want you next to me in a foxhole. You'll switch sides if the enemy offers a chocolate bar, and a chance to save your skin.
I want someone like Sidney Powell, a whistleblower and a Christian patriot. I hope her evidence is watertight and bullet proof--and frankly, that for the next few weeks she has taken to wearing Kevlar. That's how much I trust the people who want to silence her.
Please pray for her safety and the future of our democracy.
But there Sidney stood fearlessly on television, her voice quavering a little at the enormity of the evil she has helped to uncover. Meanwhile the Vichy-conservatives over at National Review and other "squish" venues sniped at her, and at Rudolph Giuliani, who faced down the hitmen of the New York Mafia, then broke its back. One called the Trump team "unhinged," and sniffed at its lack of "dignity."
Fox News reporter Kristin Fisher called Mr. Giuliani a "liar."
Sniffy Vichy Conservatives
If you think your country's elections are being stolen, and your main concern is for keeping your "dignity," then I don't want you next to me in a foxhole. You'll switch sides if the enemy offers a chocolate bar, and a chance to save your skin.
I want someone like Sidney Powell, a whistleblower and a Christian patriot. I hope her evidence is watertight and bullet proof--and frankly, that for the next few weeks she has taken to wearing Kevlar. That's how much I trust the people who want to silence her.
Please pray for her safety and the future of our democracy.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (sfhL4)
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Lawyers, lawyers, everywhere - there are 1.3 million in practice today in the US and would you believe 10% are in government?
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (4NtsG)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Maximus Dominion Meridius at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (Do5/p)
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* insert Sam Kinnison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (4I/2K)
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I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
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"with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?"
What's the political distribution among lawyers? Aren't most of them rather lefty? I dunno.
What's the political distribution among lawyers? Aren't most of them rather lefty? I dunno.
Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too High To Reach Otherwise at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (qpX6U)
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WTF is Dominion?
CIA own that?
well der, being in charge of voting machines would be a good place to be to be in charge of the world
CIA own that?
well der, being in charge of voting machines would be a good place to be to be in charge of the world
Posted by: will choose a nic later at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (GIeIM)
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (h8nNr)
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Dominion crisis strategy is entitled "Running out the clock".
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (N17yv)
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Thanks for the nood.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (+2xjH)
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They are skipping town and wiping their online footprints.
I hope people grabbed the info.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sfhL4)
I posted a link a couple of threads back of dominion people removing their affiliations with the company on linkedin. Sadly, the internet is forever.
If there's no wrongdoing, why remove potential resume enhancing history?
I hope people grabbed the info.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sfhL4)
I posted a link a couple of threads back of dominion people removing their affiliations with the company on linkedin. Sadly, the internet is forever.
If there's no wrongdoing, why remove potential resume enhancing history?
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (8B6Ng)
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Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
_________
Those who do so are accident prone.
What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
_________
Those who do so are accident prone.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (7X3UV)
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over at justthenews
Dominion voting software can permit staff to manually adjust ballot returns during counting process
Process of "adjudication" allows for "resolution of voter intent."
Dominion voting software can permit staff to manually adjust ballot returns during counting process
Process of "adjudication" allows for "resolution of voter intent."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (sfhL4)
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something something . . .The more they professed their innocence, the faster we counted the silverware . . something along those lines
Posted by: 2009Refugee at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (YNXIj)
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Lawyering up can mean two things (or both):
1) I'm guilty, so I'm protecting myself.
2) I'm gonna sue you.
1) I'm guilty, so I'm protecting myself.
2) I'm gonna sue you.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
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I used honey badger's comment at 257 in previous thread to tweet this
https://twitter.com/vm20201/status/
1329830946959462402
https://twitter.com/vm20201/status/
1329830946959462402
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (nUhF0)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
1. There are hundreds if not thousands in the fight now.
B. Most lawyers are liberals.
iii. Threats work.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
1. There are hundreds if not thousands in the fight now.
B. Most lawyers are liberals.
iii. Threats work.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ZfRYq)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Because of the death threats and campaigns to drive customers away.
Because of the death threats and campaigns to drive customers away.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (naEeR)
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29 Dominion crisis strategy is entitled "Running out the clock".
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (N17yv)
___________
This looks more like "Running like a scared rabbit."
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (N17yv)
___________
This looks more like "Running like a scared rabbit."
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (7X3UV)
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Thanks for the nood.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (+2xjH)
Hey! I nooded! And you guys fling poop for my troubles!
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (+2xjH)
Hey! I nooded! And you guys fling poop for my troubles!
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (8B6Ng)
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2
What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM
Same reason that despite there likely being millions of doctors in this country who know the COVID-19 stuff has been bullshit, none of them stepped forward to say so.
What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM
Same reason that despite there likely being millions of doctors in this country who know the COVID-19 stuff has been bullshit, none of them stepped forward to say so.
Posted by: Maximus Dominion Meridius at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (Do5/p)
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Annnd, we're back...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (Do5/p)
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B-b-b-but Sidney hasn't shown me teh evidence!
Posted by: Surrender Troll at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (lRrON)
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Dominion had initially agreed to attend the hearing, before it "abruptly canceled,"
As all innocent parties do.
As all innocent parties do.
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (yQpMk)
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Dominion backed out most likely because there is no upside to appearing, and no downside to not appearing.
I am sure that PA legislators are drafting the sternly worded letter now.
I am sure that PA legislators are drafting the sternly worded letter now.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZfRYq)
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Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
47
Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
Lefties can't help themselves, can they?
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
Lefties can't help themselves, can they?
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (8B6Ng)
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Exit, stage left!
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (4I/2K)
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Now would be a good time for that Mistress of Mayhem, the goddess of Chaos, to roll the dice for Joey Bidet to go snake-eyes.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (BenuG)
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@joshdcaplan 6m
WSBTV: DeKalb County, Georgia, elections manager fired for errors that had been found in ballot audit
WSBTV: DeKalb County, Georgia, elections manager fired for errors that had been found in ballot audit
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (cF8AT)
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They thought he'd concede.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ONvIw)
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To be fair, we don't really know how many have offered their services. That takes a LOT of coordination, and I'm sure it's happening on a state by state county by county basis. They've barely had a bit over 2 weeks to get on this. Hopefully the ducks are being lined up.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (8B6Ng)
it seems some are trying, but not enough. They are doing it on their own. That is one way to help.
National conservative group Amistad Project to challenge presidential election results in key states
The Trump campaign will join with Amistad Project on the lawsuits on case-by-case basis
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:05 PM (8B6Ng)
it seems some are trying, but not enough. They are doing it on their own. That is one way to help.
National conservative group Amistad Project to challenge presidential election results in key states
The Trump campaign will join with Amistad Project on the lawsuits on case-by-case basis
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (sfhL4)
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Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
Posted by: 90s techno thrillers at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (qlFIA)
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I didn't think we could count on them to show up.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (m45I2)
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I guess Tucker Carlson and the rest will just use this to say, see, there's still no proof.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (3J5Re)
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Yeah, I would like to know what they did with my vote.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (h9s1T)
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Dominion ain't suing jack shit - as Wood pointed out, the discovery would be brutal for them.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (4NtsG)
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Sidney Powell has more evidence for her allegations than what formed the basis for the Mueller probe or the impeachment of a sitting President.
Posted by: NASCAR Champion Ricky Bobby at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (l7udz)
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But Rudy and Sidney are assholes, right?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I think people are kind of desperate not to believe how bad it is.
Though Rasmussen found that 1/3 of Democrats believe the election was stolen from Trump, and that, right there, is a bloody disaster in the making.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
I think people are kind of desperate not to believe how bad it is.
Though Rasmussen found that 1/3 of Democrats believe the election was stolen from Trump, and that, right there, is a bloody disaster in the making.
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (h8nNr)
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WSBTV: DeKalb County, Georgia, elections manager fired for errors that had been found in ballot audit
Yet I see the awarded GA to biden?
WSBTV: DeKalb County, Georgia, elections manager fired for errors that had been found in ballot audit
Yet I see the awarded GA to biden?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (Zmnko)
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If you think none of the doctors have stepped forward to call BS on covid, you haven't been paying attention. One was fired for doing so. And you might want to look up Dr. Stella Immanuel.
Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (JKNZq)
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The I'm taking you down with me defense.
Aka nobody tries to throw DaveA into the pool a second time.
Aka nobody tries to throw DaveA into the pool a second time.
Posted by: DaveA at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (FhXTo)
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>>Fox News reporter Kristin Fisher called Mr. Giuliani a "liar."
She should be doing Fraggle Porn.
She should be doing Fraggle Porn.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (p9rIG)
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Now it all starts to add up...
Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (m45I2)
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Perfectly normal behavior.
Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (AwYPR)
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I posted a link a couple of threads back of dominion people removing their affiliations with the company on linkedin. Sadly, the internet is forever.
If there's no wrongdoing, why remove potential resume enhancing history?
Because they assumed they were going to be flooded with death threats and threats against their families. That's what would happen if the left was contesting the election.
If there's no wrongdoing, why remove potential resume enhancing history?
Because they assumed they were going to be flooded with death threats and threats against their families. That's what would happen if the left was contesting the election.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (naEeR)
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A few weeks ago, I thought the Venezuela angle with Dominion was nuts. It turns out the NYT was writing about this very thing as far back as 2006. Mind. Blown.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (9IdCK)
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Good. I was hoping Dominion would do this - because if they honestly had nothing to hide, they would be out there fearlessly defending themselves. But they know their machines cheated.
Posted by: IC - Call me Madam President-Elect at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (a0IVu)
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34 over at justthenews
Dominion voting software can permit staff to manually adjust ballot returns during counting process
Process of "adjudication" allows for "resolution of voter intent."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (sfhL4)
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WTF? The ONLY reason why to use an electronic system is to eliminate "voter intent" decisions.
Dominion voting software can permit staff to manually adjust ballot returns during counting process
Process of "adjudication" allows for "resolution of voter intent."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (sfhL4)
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WTF? The ONLY reason why to use an electronic system is to eliminate "voter intent" decisions.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (cMXNt)
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A semi hauling a load of ammo crashed nearby. The Horror!
(The 4th semi to overturn on the interstate here in just the last week)
(The 4th semi to overturn on the interstate here in just the last week)
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (HBlzO)
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I am sure that PA legislators are drafting the sternly worded letter now.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZfRYq)
SMACK!
"See you at the party, Richter!"
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZfRYq)
SMACK!
"See you at the party, Richter!"
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (8B6Ng)
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Skedaddle!
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (4I/2K)
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Self-preservation? Maybe they have families they want to keep safe.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (4JM5Y)
with what we are up against?
we keep saying this election is more important than the last
are they?
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (4JM5Y)
with what we are up against?
we keep saying this election is more important than the last
are they?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (sfhL4)
74
Joe Biden, not getting smarter.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (p9rIG)
75
Where's our local Creole idiot today?
Posted by: PacosMojo at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (I020p)
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Everything is an algorithm. Counting is an algorithm. n=n+1. But there could be intentionally malicious ones.
Posted by: banana Dream at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (l6b3d)
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Dominion backed out most likely because there is no upside to appearing, and no downside to not appearing.
I am sure that PA legislators are drafting the sternly worded letter now.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZfRYq)
"A little more to the right, Mr. Brix..."
Dominion backed out most likely because there is no upside to appearing, and no downside to not appearing.
I am sure that PA legislators are drafting the sternly worded letter now.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZfRYq)
"A little more to the right, Mr. Brix..."
Posted by: Kim Jong Il at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (cMXNt)
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1. There are hundreds if not thousands in the fight now.
B. Most lawyers are liberals.
iii. Threats work.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ZfRYq)
Exactly. And that last one can't be emphasized enough.
B. Most lawyers are liberals.
iii. Threats work.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ZfRYq)
Exactly. And that last one can't be emphasized enough.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (3J5Re)
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WTF? The ONLY reason why to use an electronic system is to eliminate "voter intent" decisions.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (cMXNt)
At this point, maybe we just need to go back to purple thumbprints.
This shit's ludicrous.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (cMXNt)
At this point, maybe we just need to go back to purple thumbprints.
This shit's ludicrous.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (Msrhc)
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PA House said innpresser that Dominion was not being sued - they had no legal reason not to show up
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (nUhF0)
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36 Lawyering up can mean two things (or both):
1) I'm guilty, so I'm protecting myself.
2) I'm gonna sue you.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
Honest question from a non-lawyer.
Would potential liable/defemation suit stop say a PR team from putting out favorable messaging for the company?
1) I'm guilty, so I'm protecting myself.
2) I'm gonna sue you.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
Honest question from a non-lawyer.
Would potential liable/defemation suit stop say a PR team from putting out favorable messaging for the company?
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (+2xjH)
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2) I'm gonna sue you.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
They aren't suing PA. And going before the PA House to declare their equipment and company integrity has not downside.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
They aren't suing PA. And going before the PA House to declare their equipment and company integrity has not downside.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (J70i0)
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Cheeze it!
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (4I/2K)
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Collective yawn at Foxnews.
I wonder if Dana Perino is still encouraging Dominion to sue for defamation?
Karl Rove telling us how it's over?
Tucker lying about Sidney Powell?
I wonder if Dana Perino is still encouraging Dominion to sue for defamation?
Karl Rove telling us how it's over?
Tucker lying about Sidney Powell?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (a8b7P)
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20 Lawyers, lawyers, everywhere - there are 1.3 million in practice today in the US and would you believe 10% are in government?
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (4NtsG)
_________
And half of those are probably in the Pentagon.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 12:06 PM (4NtsG)
_________
And half of those are probably in the Pentagon.
Posted by: ShainS at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (AL6I1)
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We can always ask Perino's dog for advice on this.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Jasper only reads the comments!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Jasper only reads the comments!
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (CjFDo)
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So as far as I can tell the progression on the left since election night has gone as follows
1) THERE IS NO FRAUD NONE!
2) Yeah sure a few dead people voted and stuff but it didn't matter.
3) Fine there was a lot of fraud but look at how much Biden won by you haters!
4) ?
Has anyone check the lefty boards lately?
1) THERE IS NO FRAUD NONE!
2) Yeah sure a few dead people voted and stuff but it didn't matter.
3) Fine there was a lot of fraud but look at how much Biden won by you haters!
4) ?
Has anyone check the lefty boards lately?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (qlFIA)
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I wonder if Tucker will question Dominion's integrity in his staff written monologue tonight?
Posted by: PacosMojo at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (I020p)
90
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I guess Tucker Carlson and the rest will just use this to say, see, there's still no proof.
Mad Max in VA
Tucker lost me for good with his hissy fit about Sidney Powll not giving him an interview. You live in a den of thieves Tucker. I wouldn't trust you if I were Sidney Powell.
I guess Tucker Carlson and the rest will just use this to say, see, there's still no proof.
Mad Max in VA
Tucker lost me for good with his hissy fit about Sidney Powll not giving him an interview. You live in a den of thieves Tucker. I wouldn't trust you if I were Sidney Powell.
Posted by: NASCAR Champion Ricky Bobby at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (l7udz)
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Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
They run software. Software can be changed. "Algorithm" just means "an approach to completing a task" in the software world.
If a device can scan ballots and accumulate a total of votes for each candidate, it can shift them around.
They run software. Software can be changed. "Algorithm" just means "an approach to completing a task" in the software world.
If a device can scan ballots and accumulate a total of votes for each candidate, it can shift them around.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (naEeR)
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Kayleigh presser on...
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (cF8AT)
93
Can somebody sum this up for me?
Posted by: Muldoon at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (m45I2)
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Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Especially their slogan "Changing how people vote".
I mean, C'mon Man!
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Especially their slogan "Changing how people vote".
I mean, C'mon Man!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (HBlzO)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
The ones who would are afraid.
The others are working for the Dems.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
The ones who would are afraid.
The others are working for the Dems.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (2JVJo)
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Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
Because computers run on algorithms? x votes + 1 = x+1 is an algorithm.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
Because computers run on algorithms? x votes + 1 = x+1 is an algorithm.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (J70i0)
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>>At this point, maybe we just need to go back to purple thumbprints.
I said it yeaterday : 8 Year Presidential Terms.
Your Vote costs you a finger.
Mid-Year Elections we get out the dye.
I said it yeaterday : 8 Year Presidential Terms.
Your Vote costs you a finger.
Mid-Year Elections we get out the dye.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (p9rIG)
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Pulling in from the previous thread, due to relevance:
Robert Kennedy was not only loved by everyone on the left, he was at LEAST a sympathetic figure to damn near everyone in the country, because of what happened to his brother 5 years before.
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Fuck ALL Kennedys.
They should have killed Teddy, too.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (GQ5/Y)
Completely beside the point.
The same people who could kill Kennedys and black civil rights leaders can rig your election.
Clandestine operations inside this country are the norm. They're basically the reason we have clandestine "intelligence" agencies.
And they'll get away with it too, because they're much much better at it than Trump and his team of angry lawyers are.
Robert Kennedy was not only loved by everyone on the left, he was at LEAST a sympathetic figure to damn near everyone in the country, because of what happened to his brother 5 years before.
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Fuck ALL Kennedys.
They should have killed Teddy, too.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (GQ5/Y)
Completely beside the point.
The same people who could kill Kennedys and black civil rights leaders can rig your election.
Clandestine operations inside this country are the norm. They're basically the reason we have clandestine "intelligence" agencies.
And they'll get away with it too, because they're much much better at it than Trump and his team of angry lawyers are.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (hku12)
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I hope all the Dominion big wigs are buying tickets to Argentina...
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (BenuG)
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Though Rasmussen found that 1/3 of Democrats believe the election was stolen from Trump, and that, right there, is a bloody disaster in the making.
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (h8nNr)
Exactly.
The beauty of all of this [prays] is that this could very well be the death blow for the "media" as we know it.
Figure that at least 70%, probably more have finally clued in this is a giant clusterfuck, then the media is chanting to an empty church, with a few fringe kooks in the front pew.
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (h8nNr)
Exactly.
The beauty of all of this [prays] is that this could very well be the death blow for the "media" as we know it.
Figure that at least 70%, probably more have finally clued in this is a giant clusterfuck, then the media is chanting to an empty church, with a few fringe kooks in the front pew.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (8B6Ng)
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Posted on previous thread:
The dog that didn't Bark...
You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
The dog that didn't Bark...
You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
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Run away! Run away!
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (4I/2K)
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Dominion should sue Rudi!
Posted by: Jasper THE Dog at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (cJEnq)
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You don't hide from answering questions if you have nothing to hide. You show up and answer, or refuse to answer certain lines of questioning.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (a8b7P)
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I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
my *guess* is the algorithm was set to a certain threshold and they shut down the systems when it would be obvious that they would get caught, that the 3% or whatever votes added automatically to Biden, and decreased to Trump, either was not going to work, or it would have blown up the system with 100's of thousands of votes added in spikes, making it fiction, because there are just not that many registered voters or that many voters in the states or districts, or country for that matter!
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
my *guess* is the algorithm was set to a certain threshold and they shut down the systems when it would be obvious that they would get caught, that the 3% or whatever votes added automatically to Biden, and decreased to Trump, either was not going to work, or it would have blown up the system with 100's of thousands of votes added in spikes, making it fiction, because there are just not that many registered voters or that many voters in the states or districts, or country for that matter!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (sfhL4)
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I am like My Cousin Vinny when it comes to court procedure. Can lawyers weigh in on this move by Dominion?
Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (rOYkz)
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>>They run software. Software can be changed. "Algorithm" just means "an approach to completing a task" in the software world.
>>If a device can scan ballots and accumulate a total of votes for each candidate, it can shift them around.
I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
>>If a device can scan ballots and accumulate a total of votes for each candidate, it can shift them around.
I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
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Somebody in the ONT said, without a link or anything, that Dominion and Smartmatic had disappeared from the internet and even their offices.
Of course, with no link, I didn't believe it. People need to stop believing everything they see, just because it sounds good for our side. That's what the Left does.
Of course, with no link, I didn't believe it. People need to stop believing everything they see, just because it sounds good for our side. That's what the Left does.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (OssQ4)
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Well, where the fuck is he???
This thread is custom made for Dominion's hired mouthpiece, and yet....
This thread is custom made for Dominion's hired mouthpiece, and yet....
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (z79tQ)
Posted by: Dansgirls at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (V25ON)
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"Conspiracy theories for me, but not for thee."
Our conspiracy theories are smart and plausible, because we say so. Your conspiracy theories are dumb and implausible, because we say so.
Our conspiracy theories are smart and plausible, because we say so. Your conspiracy theories are dumb and implausible, because we say so.
Posted by: Gatekeeper MSMster at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (dYe5S)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
You don't need millions of lawyers. Only one lawyer at a time may speak to a judge. Besides both Sidney Powell and Lin Wood have large staffs who can do whatever research or legal writing is necessary.
What they need, and I'm sure they have, are experts who can explain difficult concepts (algorithms, machines changing votes) and witnesses who can confirm fraud.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
You don't need millions of lawyers. Only one lawyer at a time may speak to a judge. Besides both Sidney Powell and Lin Wood have large staffs who can do whatever research or legal writing is necessary.
What they need, and I'm sure they have, are experts who can explain difficult concepts (algorithms, machines changing votes) and witnesses who can confirm fraud.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (lRrON)
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I think it was Nick Searcy the asked, why didn't Tucker have anyone from Dominion on his show to refute Powell's claims. Has any Dominion spokesman answered the charges? An honest media might be hounding them but that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (d1uFV)
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>>Completely beside the point.
>>The same people who could kill Kennedys and black civil rights leaders can rig your election.
No. Your point was tht the Kennedys were unversally adored.
My point is that there was a long line of people willing to pay to see them shot.
>>The same people who could kill Kennedys and black civil rights leaders can rig your election.
No. Your point was tht the Kennedys were unversally adored.
My point is that there was a long line of people willing to pay to see them shot.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (p9rIG)
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Yet I see the awarded GA to biden?
Posted by: It's me donna
They can say that until they're blue in the face. I went to bed at 1 am on Wednesday, November 4, with Trump ahead by more than 100,000 votes.
While I said it wasn't outside the margin of theft, a 4 am dump of enough ballots to steal the election is not just suspicious, it's the fraudsters mooning us and daring us to do anything about it!
Posted by: It's me donna
They can say that until they're blue in the face. I went to bed at 1 am on Wednesday, November 4, with Trump ahead by more than 100,000 votes.
While I said it wasn't outside the margin of theft, a 4 am dump of enough ballots to steal the election is not just suspicious, it's the fraudsters mooning us and daring us to do anything about it!
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (h8nNr)
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103 Dominion should sue Rudi!
Posted by: Jasper THE Dog at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (cJEnq)
They didn't. What does that tell us?
Posted by: Jasper THE Dog at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (cJEnq)
They didn't. What does that tell us?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (s2VJv)
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So.. are the Dominion voting machines paperless? Are these electronic voting machines?
Why the fuck would any state not be using paper only ballots?
Why the fuck would any state not be using paper only ballots?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (CjFDo)
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path to victory imo:
1. Penn congress says "this shit stinks, we're sending Trump electors"
2. Wisconsin recount goes Trump's way
3. Michigan... *gestures vaguely*
I have no faith in Georgia. I haven't heard a peep from the predominant GOP legislature.
1. Penn congress says "this shit stinks, we're sending Trump electors"
2. Wisconsin recount goes Trump's way
3. Michigan... *gestures vaguely*
I have no faith in Georgia. I haven't heard a peep from the predominant GOP legislature.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (ZR7kf)
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Dominion ain't suing jack shit - as Wood pointed out, the discovery would be brutal for them.
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Let's say they did. Wouldn't that alone preclude any resolution by Dec. 8th, or whatever that date is that looms large. Meaning if they sued, went to trial, lost and were exposed for what they did, the election would've already been certified as a Biden "win."
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Let's say they did. Wouldn't that alone preclude any resolution by Dec. 8th, or whatever that date is that looms large. Meaning if they sued, went to trial, lost and were exposed for what they did, the election would've already been certified as a Biden "win."
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (O+I8R)
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Hi tailin' it out of it here, boss!
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (4I/2K)
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Somebody in the ONT said, without a link or anything, that Dominion and Smartmatic had disappeared from the internet and even their offices.
Of course, with no link, I didn't believe it. People need to stop believing everything they see, just because it sounds good for our side. That's what the Left does.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (OssQ4)
I asked for a link, got no response.
Did a look for myself, found nothing.
But today? Who knows.
Of course, with no link, I didn't believe it. People need to stop believing everything they see, just because it sounds good for our side. That's what the Left does.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (OssQ4)
I asked for a link, got no response.
Did a look for myself, found nothing.
But today? Who knows.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (z79tQ)
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94 Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Especially their slogan "Changing how people vote".
I mean, C'mon Man!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (HBlzO)
Generic Sci-Fi/VG Enemy of Mankind name.
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Especially their slogan "Changing how people vote".
I mean, C'mon Man!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (HBlzO)
Generic Sci-Fi/VG Enemy of Mankind name.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (BJKQV)
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46 Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
That's kind of an obvious question that hasn't been brought up before.
Strictly speaking, a program simply counting votes is an algorithm, but anything more complicated than that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
That's kind of an obvious question that hasn't been brought up before.
Strictly speaking, a program simply counting votes is an algorithm, but anything more complicated than that doesn't make a lot of sense.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (4tiP2)
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Rush just played Kamalalala and her nasal-y California voice is shortly going to cause my computer to shut down in protest. It's already spitting at me.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (N17yv)
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What was funny though, right after we started talking about Robert Kennedy, Marilyn (whom he had killed) was on the Front Page.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (p9rIG)
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2) I'm gonna sue you.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
They aren't suing PA. And going before the PA House to declare their equipment and company integrity has not downside.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (J70i0)
Not talking PA, talking defamation. See what Sindney, Trump, and Giuliani have said about them. Problem with suing, is that it also opens them up to discovery.
2) I'm gonna sue you.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ynpvh)
They aren't suing PA. And going before the PA House to declare their equipment and company integrity has not downside.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:12 PM (J70i0)
Not talking PA, talking defamation. See what Sindney, Trump, and Giuliani have said about them. Problem with suing, is that it also opens them up to discovery.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (ynpvh)
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"At this point, maybe we just need to go back to purple thumbprints."
I thought that the Votomatic punch cards worked fine, but they got a bad rap in 2000. They're simple, inexpensive, auditable, fairly quick to process, fewer techies needed to set them up and run them. I'd be pleased if we went back to those.
I would never trust a touchscreen voting machine. There is no auditable physical evidence of a vote.
I thought that the Votomatic punch cards worked fine, but they got a bad rap in 2000. They're simple, inexpensive, auditable, fairly quick to process, fewer techies needed to set them up and run them. I'd be pleased if we went back to those.
I would never trust a touchscreen voting machine. There is no auditable physical evidence of a vote.
Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too High To Reach Otherwise at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (qpX6U)
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Call me crazy, but I sense Dominion is doing it's best to stay out of reach of TT process servers...
...or US Marshals.
...or US Marshals.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (W+kMI)
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"Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4) "
Some of the lawyers who initially volunteered are now under protection of federal and state authorities. They had their lives, and their families lives threatened. They also had their jobs threatened. Apparently the threats were very specific. They knew where they lived, where their children went to school etc.
But you know, the media says there is nothing to see here. Apparently someone disagrees.
Some of the lawyers who initially volunteered are now under protection of federal and state authorities. They had their lives, and their families lives threatened. They also had their jobs threatened. Apparently the threats were very specific. They knew where they lived, where their children went to school etc.
But you know, the media says there is nothing to see here. Apparently someone disagrees.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (a8b7P)
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109 Well, where the fuck is he???
This thread is custom made for Dominion's hired mouthpiece, and yet....
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (z79tQ)
BiNO was in the last thread.
This thread is custom made for Dominion's hired mouthpiece, and yet....
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (z79tQ)
BiNO was in the last thread.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (d1uFV)
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They didn't. What does that tell us?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (s2VJv)
I suspect Rudi would love that.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (s2VJv)
I suspect Rudi would love that.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (cJEnq)
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And they'll get away with it too, because they're much much better at it than Trump and his team of angry lawyers are.
Posted by: BurtTC
Peter and Lisa text too much ...
just sayin'
Posted by: BurtTC
Peter and Lisa text too much ...
just sayin'
Posted by: Adriane the Hat with Tri-color Ribbon Critic ... at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (LPnfS)
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I can imagine Dominion's sales pitch to these states.
"And with no paper ballots and an algorithm tailored to your needs, you get the election you want...."
"And with no paper ballots and an algorithm tailored to your needs, you get the election you want...."
Posted by: brak at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (cG+eD)
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I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM
There were more votes that they had premade ballots for. They had to stop the count so they could make more.
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM
There were more votes that they had premade ballots for. They had to stop the count so they could make more.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (OssQ4)
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It's interesting that Dominion is hiding, and the trolls are everywhere, and a lot of the media people
are trying to shape perception.
None of it matters because
(1) at least 75 million people have already seen through this act and
(2) Trump don't care
are trying to shape perception.
None of it matters because
(1) at least 75 million people have already seen through this act and
(2) Trump don't care
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (AwPyG)
137
Can Dominion run my bank account?
Posted by: Josephistan at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (caXAu)
138
Yeah, I would like to know what they did with my vote.
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM
A conservative, black, female - it was probably YOUR vote that broke the Dominion algorithm!
Posted by: chique l'African Viking Queen of Greenland (get your Trunalimunumaprzure here!) at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM
A conservative, black, female - it was probably YOUR vote that broke the Dominion algorithm!
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (tkyK5)
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I see none of you fuckers know how to nood anymore....
I see none of you fuckers know how to nood anymore....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (EGyGV)
140
118
So.. are the Dominion voting machines paperless? Are these electronic voting machines?
Why the fuck would any state not be using paper only ballots?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (CjFDo)
The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
So.. are the Dominion voting machines paperless? Are these electronic voting machines?
Why the fuck would any state not be using paper only ballots?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (CjFDo)
The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
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132 They didn't. What does that tell us?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (s2VJv)
I suspect Rudi would love that.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (cJEnq)
Yup. The discovery process would essentially be an admission of guilt. And much more.
See the sidebar about Sidney Powell.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (s2VJv)
I suspect Rudi would love that.
Posted by: Roland THTG at November 20, 2020 12:17 PM (cJEnq)
Yup. The discovery process would essentially be an admission of guilt. And much more.
See the sidebar about Sidney Powell.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (s2VJv)
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Tbere is no evidence that jimmy hoffa was murdered!!
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (Rturm)
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I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
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This, exactly. They should only be adding machines. Counting machines.
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This, exactly. They should only be adding machines. Counting machines.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (O+I8R)
144
Oh there's a dry hole alright.
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (pnR7k)
145
105 I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
my *guess* is the algorithm was set to a certain threshold and they shut down the systems when it would be obvious that they would get caught, that the 3% or whatever votes added automatically to Biden, and decreased to Trump, either was not going to work, or it would have blown up the system with 100's of thousands of votes added in spikes, making it fiction, because there are just not that many registered voters or that many voters in the states or districts, or country for that matter!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (sfhL4)
Basically the machines were only supposed to steal a certain % of the vote. It turned out that the amount of votes Trump got was a lot more than was expected, so we get an election with unprecedented vote totals from both sides combining together to blow out the previous highest by some 20 million votes.
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
my *guess* is the algorithm was set to a certain threshold and they shut down the systems when it would be obvious that they would get caught, that the 3% or whatever votes added automatically to Biden, and decreased to Trump, either was not going to work, or it would have blown up the system with 100's of thousands of votes added in spikes, making it fiction, because there are just not that many registered voters or that many voters in the states or districts, or country for that matter!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (sfhL4)
Basically the machines were only supposed to steal a certain % of the vote. It turned out that the amount of votes Trump got was a lot more than was expected, so we get an election with unprecedented vote totals from both sides combining together to blow out the previous highest by some 20 million votes.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (Zm+LZ)
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It's here
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (Zmnko)
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If we had a fair and free press, they might just mention that Dominion HQ in Toronto shares space with the Tides Foundation.
That right there should be a massive red flag, on fire, with bottle rockets and a cuckoo bird.
Supposedly the DOJ returned 2 days ago after a 3 day stay in Toronto. Maybe, just maybe Barr and team were doing something besides eating poutine and pouring Molson's lager down their throats.
That right there should be a massive red flag, on fire, with bottle rockets and a cuckoo bird.
Supposedly the DOJ returned 2 days ago after a 3 day stay in Toronto. Maybe, just maybe Barr and team were doing something besides eating poutine and pouring Molson's lager down their throats.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (8B6Ng)
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101
Posted on previous thread:
The dog that didn't Bark...
You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
Exactly what someone innocent does; destroy the evidence they did no wrong.
Posted on previous thread:
The dog that didn't Bark...
You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
Exactly what someone innocent does; destroy the evidence they did no wrong.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
Posted by: Barr and Durham at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (MMLyn)
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Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Especially their slogan "Changing how people vote".
I mean, C'mon Man!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (HBlzO)
Generic Sci-Fi/VG Enemy of Mankind name.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (BJKQV)
To Serve Man
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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Especially their slogan "Changing how people vote".
I mean, C'mon Man!
Posted by: AshevilleRobert at November 20, 2020 12:13 PM (HBlzO)
Generic Sci-Fi/VG Enemy of Mankind name.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (BJKQV)
To Serve Man
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (4I/2K)
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45 Dominion had initially agreed to attend the hearing, before it "abruptly canceled,"
As all innocent parties do.
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (yQpMk)
Maybe, maybe not. I am not here to defend Dominion. But let me tell you this real world story.
Young Army LT was a property book owner. THINGS HAPPEN literally echelons above Corps. Things on property book are transported physically by people who are not the property book owner. After transport, you can physically look at and touch the items, they have labels that say they belong to the unit. But under the "rules," they are unaccounted for.
Article 32 investigation begins. Investigating officer sets up a meeting with young LT, and says "they are just trying to get it cleared up."
Army LT says to himself, I know where the JAG office is, maybe I should drop by. Lady CPT JAG hears the story, and says "why are you going to help them screw you, Lieutenant?" Army LT ponders. This is a VERY good question.
Army LT calls investigating officer and cancels appointment on advisement of JAG.
Calls from chain of command rain down on the young LT. That was a dumb move! You don't look cooperative!
True.
But I - excuse me, the young LT - had no interest in helping out the screwing.
As it turns out, after they talked to the JAG and the O6 who had screwed things up was indicated as the one who was t fault, the Army looked at the pallet of "missing" items and said, oh, lookie here, we've had it the whole time.
And the young LT paid no penalty for that after all.
As all innocent parties do.
Posted by: G'rump928(C) at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (yQpMk)
Maybe, maybe not. I am not here to defend Dominion. But let me tell you this real world story.
Young Army LT was a property book owner. THINGS HAPPEN literally echelons above Corps. Things on property book are transported physically by people who are not the property book owner. After transport, you can physically look at and touch the items, they have labels that say they belong to the unit. But under the "rules," they are unaccounted for.
Article 32 investigation begins. Investigating officer sets up a meeting with young LT, and says "they are just trying to get it cleared up."
Army LT says to himself, I know where the JAG office is, maybe I should drop by. Lady CPT JAG hears the story, and says "why are you going to help them screw you, Lieutenant?" Army LT ponders. This is a VERY good question.
Army LT calls investigating officer and cancels appointment on advisement of JAG.
Calls from chain of command rain down on the young LT. That was a dumb move! You don't look cooperative!
True.
But I - excuse me, the young LT - had no interest in helping out the screwing.
As it turns out, after they talked to the JAG and the O6 who had screwed things up was indicated as the one who was t fault, the Army looked at the pallet of "missing" items and said, oh, lookie here, we've had it the whole time.
And the young LT paid no penalty for that after all.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (ZfRYq)
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While I said it wasn't outside the margin of theft, a 4 am dump of
enough ballots to steal the election is not just suspicious, it's the
fraudsters mooning us and daring us to do anything about it!
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Yeah, the left argued before the election, with the "Red Mirage" talk that Trump would look to be ahead on election day but mail in ballots would put Biden over the top. Which means maybe 60-40, 70-30 or something like that...
Then supposed mail in ballots then came in at 99-1 or 100-0. And there were more of them then there were actual adults in many counties.
Sure guys!
enough ballots to steal the election is not just suspicious, it's the
fraudsters mooning us and daring us to do anything about it!
***
Yeah, the left argued before the election, with the "Red Mirage" talk that Trump would look to be ahead on election day but mail in ballots would put Biden over the top. Which means maybe 60-40, 70-30 or something like that...
Then supposed mail in ballots then came in at 99-1 or 100-0. And there were more of them then there were actual adults in many counties.
Sure guys!
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (qlFIA)
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RICO, RICO, RICO.
As was brought out in yesterday's press conference - AND I BELIEVE THIS TO BE TOTALLY TRUE - Both the R's and the D's are up to their eyeballs in election corruption.
Have been for decades.
Totally corrupt. As a nation, I believe we are at a precipice. Revolution.
As was brought out in yesterday's press conference - AND I BELIEVE THIS TO BE TOTALLY TRUE - Both the R's and the D's are up to their eyeballs in election corruption.
Have been for decades.
Totally corrupt. As a nation, I believe we are at a precipice. Revolution.
Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (gmo/4)
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Please pray for her safety and the future of our democracy.+++++and throw a few bucks her way www.sidneypowell.com
Posted by: central scrutinizer at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (vI+F1)
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I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
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I would dearly love to see Dominion or Smartmatic (or whoever) engineers trying to explain how the products are organized and why something like this exists and plays any role, if it does.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
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I would dearly love to see Dominion or Smartmatic (or whoever) engineers trying to explain how the products are organized and why something like this exists and plays any role, if it does.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, Fopps News Sucks at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (N17yv)
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>>The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Check their ass to see if they got a good wipe that morning?
Because a Receipt don't mean dick.
Check their ass to see if they got a good wipe that morning?
Because a Receipt don't mean dick.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (p9rIG)
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I would find it hard to believe such a massive operation like Dominion could go *poof* overnight.
But the medical research organization that The Lancet had to retract its HCQ study that damaged that treatment's effectiveness did GO *poof*
But the medical research organization that The Lancet had to retract its HCQ study that damaged that treatment's effectiveness did GO *poof*
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (BenuG)
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Exactly what someone innocent does; destroy the evidence they did no wrong.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
Precisely!
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
Precisely!
Posted by: Arthur Andersen and Co. at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (4I/2K)
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Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM
This is the singular most important question of our time.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM
This is the singular most important question of our time.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (OssQ4)
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iii. Threats work.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ZfRYq)
Exactly. And that last one can't be emphasized enough.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (3J5Re)
Yes, yes yes, the death threats. We all know they are real.
The Hill to Die on? Lawyers are the last line of defense in this. I guess it's not really the hill to die on.
So Biden wins.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:08 PM (ZfRYq)
Exactly. And that last one can't be emphasized enough.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:11 PM (3J5Re)
Yes, yes yes, the death threats. We all know they are real.
The Hill to Die on? Lawyers are the last line of defense in this. I guess it's not really the hill to die on.
So Biden wins.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (sfhL4)
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Totally corrupt. As a nation, I believe we are at a precipice. Revolution.
Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (gmo/4)
It's the McCain legacy
Posted by: Archer at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (gmo/4)
It's the McCain legacy
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (ONvIw)
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Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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"Legion" was just a little too on the nose
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Yeah, that title is just too obvious...
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"Legion" was just a little too on the nose
Posted by: Josephistan at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (caXAu)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Here's yer receipt, sucker, our magic lectronix will record what we want it to (biden) !!
Here's yer receipt, sucker, our magic lectronix will record what we want it to (biden) !!
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (Rturm)
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pfft
the people 'cheating' to get their kids into more prestigious colleges will do more time than anyone involved in vote fraud in 2020.
the people 'cheating' to get their kids into more prestigious colleges will do more time than anyone involved in vote fraud in 2020.
Posted by: will choose a nic later at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (GIeIM)
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Is there any "blue check" explanation why the Clinton Foundation had given money to Dominion? My understanding is this has been confirmed by Dominion.
Why does a foundation give money to a private company?
Why does a foundation give money to a private company?
Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (gkdnV)
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Stalin - "matters is who counts the vote."
A program that can weigh votes can be rigged to print a receipt with your actual vote and still electronically change the vote.
A program that can weigh votes can be rigged to print a receipt with your actual vote and still electronically change the vote.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (BenuG)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
I would like to know more about this. If you get a receipt, where would you go to check to see what was recorded for your vote?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
I would like to know more about this. If you get a receipt, where would you go to check to see what was recorded for your vote?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (4tiP2)
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It's interesting that Dominion is hiding, and the trolls are everywhere, and a lot of the media people
are trying to shape perception.
--
There was some troll in the EMT who was telling us that "everybody has moved on." So we should give up. LOL
are trying to shape perception.
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There was some troll in the EMT who was telling us that "everybody has moved on." So we should give up. LOL
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (O+I8R)
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We've in theory been focused on improving the election process since 2000 with the basically unlimited budget of the federal government.
And elections are MUCH less secure then they were in 2000.
Which means that there is not a desire to make them more secure....
We've in theory been focused on improving the election process since 2000 with the basically unlimited budget of the federal government.
And elections are MUCH less secure then they were in 2000.
Which means that there is not a desire to make them more secure....
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (qlFIA)
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@135
I'm not sure, but I think the Dominion scheme steals votes from one candidate and gives to another, and maybe cancels some too, but it has to be done subtly so that no obvious footprints are left behind--like the problem where there are more absentee ballots than applications for absentee ballots.
The beauty of Dominion is that it is difficult to catch.
But the landslide was so epic, the subtleties weren't going to be enough, and so they called a halt to the counting and had to truck in massive vote dumps.
The landslide was too lopsided for the scheme.
I'm not sure, but I think the Dominion scheme steals votes from one candidate and gives to another, and maybe cancels some too, but it has to be done subtly so that no obvious footprints are left behind--like the problem where there are more absentee ballots than applications for absentee ballots.
The beauty of Dominion is that it is difficult to catch.
But the landslide was so epic, the subtleties weren't going to be enough, and so they called a halt to the counting and had to truck in massive vote dumps.
The landslide was too lopsided for the scheme.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (AwPyG)
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Dr Shiva's video makes me think one algo they used was that
as the total number of Trump votes increase, the system increases the percentage of flipping
hypothetical.example:
100 Trump votes - flip 1 to Biden (1%)
200 Trump votes - flip 4 to Biden (2%)
if they didn't put a limit on the upper bound, it could easily break
as the total number of Trump votes increase, the system increases the percentage of flipping
hypothetical.example:
100 Trump votes - flip 1 to Biden (1%)
200 Trump votes - flip 4 to Biden (2%)
if they didn't put a limit on the upper bound, it could easily break
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:23 PM (nUhF0)
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I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
You are totally clueless on this subject and should stop making an ass of yourself.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
You are totally clueless on this subject and should stop making an ass of yourself.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:23 PM (J70i0)
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@ScottBaio
Hey @MittRomney, beautiful golf courses in Utah...maybe I'll move there, play a few rounds and unseat you. P.S. My wife is still waiting for her $2600 refund. Remember your wife canceled that Beverly Hills political luncheon fundraiser? But your campaign kept the money.
*snort*
Hey @MittRomney, beautiful golf courses in Utah...maybe I'll move there, play a few rounds and unseat you. P.S. My wife is still waiting for her $2600 refund. Remember your wife canceled that Beverly Hills political luncheon fundraiser? But your campaign kept the money.
*snort*
Posted by: Tami at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (cF8AT)
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One thing about it: even if Biden does take the oath on Jan. 20, he will never be able to convince everyone that he was the legitimate winner. That ship has sailed.
Posted by: Dr. T at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (pxDdN)
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Today is Biden's b'day?....78?
Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (AwYPR)
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Where are the subpoenas?
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (MMLyn)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Not all machines do this. Mine certainly didn't, there was not even a printer to do so.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Not all machines do this. Mine certainly didn't, there was not even a printer to do so.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (+2xjH)
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Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
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The best case argument that can be made, I believe, is that they were selling the same machines/software to countries that don't want fair election results like Venezuela or China...
Of course that brings up the obvious question as to why they'd be selected by anyone in the US....
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The best case argument that can be made, I believe, is that they were selling the same machines/software to countries that don't want fair election results like Venezuela or China...
Of course that brings up the obvious question as to why they'd be selected by anyone in the US....
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (qlFIA)
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There was some troll in the EMT who was telling us that "everybody has moved on." So we should give up. LOL
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (O+I8R)
They never expected him to fight just as they didn't expect him to win in 2016. They thought he'd go all Norm Coleman. Epic fail, donkey shits
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 12:22 PM (O+I8R)
They never expected him to fight just as they didn't expect him to win in 2016. They thought he'd go all Norm Coleman. Epic fail, donkey shits
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (ONvIw)
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So Biden wins.
Could not survive another four years of obama on steroids.
Much less the historic first woman president for life.
Could not survive another four years of obama on steroids.
Much less the historic first woman president for life.
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (Rturm)
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@162
And remember that "Dominion" is supposedly involved in health care infrastructure and tech and energy infrastructure, too. (covid numbers, anyone?)
truly a "dominion."
And remember that "Dominion" is supposedly involved in health care infrastructure and tech and energy infrastructure, too. (covid numbers, anyone?)
truly a "dominion."
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (AwPyG)
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Here's yer receipt, sucker, our magic lectronix will record what we want it to (biden) !!
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (Rturm)
The receipt has a code that can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended. I'm not sure how thoroughly that was implemented, the full electronic system was roadblocked by the corrupt who want to continue stuffing ballot boxes locally and the Dominion system prevents that. Currently the dominion system is only used for Early Voting until the project can be re-bid. They've been able to delay that for something like two years so we're still stuck with the 100% unverifiable voting system that many here seem to want to go back to.
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (Rturm)
The receipt has a code that can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended. I'm not sure how thoroughly that was implemented, the full electronic system was roadblocked by the corrupt who want to continue stuffing ballot boxes locally and the Dominion system prevents that. Currently the dominion system is only used for Early Voting until the project can be re-bid. They've been able to delay that for something like two years so we're still stuck with the 100% unverifiable voting system that many here seem to want to go back to.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
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>>You are totally clueless on this subject and should stop making an ass of yourself.
Shouldn't you be checking Sean's twitter feed so you can cherry pick the tweets you like?
Shouldn't you be checking Sean's twitter feed so you can cherry pick the tweets you like?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)
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old and busted: one vote per person
new hotness: algorithms
new hotness: algorithms
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (v0R5T)
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Yeah - that all sounded like crazy heist-movie stuff, but once Dominion starts behaving like they're actually in a heist movie, maybe it's time to rethink.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton
As others have said, where's the cease and desist orders telling Rudy to stop with the libel?
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton
As others have said, where's the cease and desist orders telling Rudy to stop with the libel?
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (+ZSW1)
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In my county, there used to be a stub on the bottom of the ballot that was given to me
the stub number matched the ballot number
this year no stub
the stub number matched the ballot number
this year no stub
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (nUhF0)
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At the presser yesterday someone said the machines could count every Trump vote at .75 of a vote and every Biden vote at 1.25 votes. In theory.
Posted by: Swallow the Rabbit Whole at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: will choose a nic later at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (GIeIM)
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I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
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I think that is an interesting point. By definition the machines run algorithms, seems to me the question is WHAT algorithms they are running...
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
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I think that is an interesting point. By definition the machines run algorithms, seems to me the question is WHAT algorithms they are running...
Posted by: WitchDoktor at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (TB7HE)
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46 Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
And decimal points for votes.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
And decimal points for votes.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (jvld5)
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I keep hoping for a downpour of flaming skulls. I think this post would normally get one but I understand the desire not to raise expectations too high given what we know about these sorts of bad actors getting away with everything all the time.
Posted by: Driggers Cole at November 20, 2020 12:25 PM (q289C)
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Elizabeth Whatzername's magic blood tester company went poof ... but only after swallowing billions of other people's money ...
Posted by: Adriane the Hat with Tri-color Ribbon Critic ... at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (LPnfS)
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Hanging chads and butterfly ballots are more secure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (BenuG)
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It prints out a paper ballot with your choices on it. You - if you are a normal person with a functioning brain - check that nothing got sideways.
You turn in the ballot. It gets scanned. The number on the box goes up one. You turn in the keycard.
I even took a picture of my printed ballot.
You turn in the ballot. It gets scanned. The number on the box goes up one. You turn in the keycard.
I even took a picture of my printed ballot.
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (h8nNr)
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I downloaded Dominion on my laptop so now I'm first on all new threads.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)
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You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
Lou Dobbs and VDH brought up a good point.
Why wouldn't Dominion be out there, front and center advocating for their systems right away? As soon as they were mentioned? Not being called before anyone. Vouching for the quality and accuracy and --- fraud proof?
Correct.
We know why.
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
Lou Dobbs and VDH brought up a good point.
Why wouldn't Dominion be out there, front and center advocating for their systems right away? As soon as they were mentioned? Not being called before anyone. Vouching for the quality and accuracy and --- fraud proof?
Correct.
We know why.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (sfhL4)
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Oh there's a dry hole alright.
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (pnR7k)
The solution?
Spit.
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (pnR7k)
The solution?
Spit.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (z79tQ)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
_________________
LOL
In an earlier thread I was talking about how I went to Wells Fargo ATM and after doing my transaction, spit out an account balance receipt that was clearly not mine. I asked the teller at the attached branch and she said it was a problem they were trying to resolve.
This is one of the biggest banks on Earth that has an IT budget of a small country, the idea that you can make some electronic voting system foolproof is laughable. Add in someone wanting to fuck with something that works on the inside, and it's not even a question how likely it would be.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
_________________
LOL
In an earlier thread I was talking about how I went to Wells Fargo ATM and after doing my transaction, spit out an account balance receipt that was clearly not mine. I asked the teller at the attached branch and she said it was a problem they were trying to resolve.
This is one of the biggest banks on Earth that has an IT budget of a small country, the idea that you can make some electronic voting system foolproof is laughable. Add in someone wanting to fuck with something that works on the inside, and it's not even a question how likely it would be.
Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (gkdnV)
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I asked for a link, got no response.
Did a look for myself, found nothing.
But today? Who knows.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM
Well, if they're lawyering up, then they obviously didn't "pull up stakes" and fly by night as was suggested by the comment.
Did a look for myself, found nothing.
But today? Who knows.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM
Well, if they're lawyering up, then they obviously didn't "pull up stakes" and fly by night as was suggested by the comment.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (OssQ4)
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I have a law degree. Just waiting for the Bat Signal.
Posted by: Iasonas at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (IVj0Y)
Posted by: Zombie Zappa at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (p9rIG)
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I guess jackstraw is right up there with Sidney powell in the "needs to be discredited-stat" category
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (AwPyG)
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For those ragging on Powell for not yet producing the actual evidence (looking at you Cucker), consider that maybe her team is frantically racing against time to archive every bit of Dominion evidence that they can before it gets disappeared forever, probably with the help of Google et al. She's going to have to lay all of her cards on the table within #TwoWeeks, so let's give her the benefit of the doubt for now.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (L106N)
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I even took a picture of my printed ballot.
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (h8nNr)
That will not stop a change in tally if the computer program demands one.
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (h8nNr)
That will not stop a change in tally if the computer program demands one.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (ONvIw)
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Why did so many states switch from whatever vote counting system they had up till 2016 to Dominion? We were reassured multiple times by the Obama administration that there was no way to hack into voting machines because they were not connected to the internet, using thumb drives with the same monitor from each party as with boxes of ballots to transport to central tabulating stations.
I understand that the Soros SoSs and DNC needed a better way to cheat after Trump won in 2016 but why did so many states go along with "lets *modernize*" proposals? and then sign off on a system that was clearly not secure? Thank god Texas declined to use Dominion but there must have been plenty of under the table money flowing to GOPe controlled states for those officials to sign off an system set up for DNC fraud.
I understand that the Soros SoSs and DNC needed a better way to cheat after Trump won in 2016 but why did so many states go along with "lets *modernize*" proposals? and then sign off on a system that was clearly not secure? Thank god Texas declined to use Dominion but there must have been plenty of under the table money flowing to GOPe controlled states for those officials to sign off an system set up for DNC fraud.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (Aashi)
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Correct.
We know why.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 2
ah ha!
the ol Hunter Biden technique!!
We know why.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 2
ah ha!
the ol Hunter Biden technique!!
Posted by: will choose a nic later at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (GIeIM)
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So.. are the Dominion voting machines paperless? Are these electronic voting machines?
Why the fuck would any state not be using paper only ballots?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (CjFDo)
The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
The Dominion machines cover all kinds of types of voting.
Yes, that includes paper ballots, where you fill in the little bubble with aballpoint sharpie.
In fact, when it comes to the scanning of the paper ballots, there's at least a couple of places to exploit right there. According to the manual, you can tell the scanner to stop counting, add or subtract, a bunch of things you wouldn't thing should be available to the user via a GUI driven interface.
THEN, the scanner creates the votes in particular folders. Those then need to be put onto a flash drive, and you can choose what folders to copy and what to ignore. THEN you take the flash drive to the destination server/drive, and copy the files off. This is where those 2k votes that just turned up in GA were "missed". They forgot to copy them off of the flash drive. Once compiled, they again put them onto a flash drive.
Chain of custody can be broken anywhere along the line, files can not be properly copied, and scans can be stopped. There's so many possible exploits just in these final steps as to be mind-bending. @codemonkeyZ posted the manual for the 5.5 system I believe a week and a half back.
It will give you a headache. Between being stone-age technology using OTS equipment and Windows 10, the entire thing is meant to be garbage.
That in fact screwed them in the end, since the shitty setup couldn't keep track of the Trump landslide. THAT is why they had to stop the count.
Why the fuck would any state not be using paper only ballots?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (CjFDo)
The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
The Dominion machines cover all kinds of types of voting.
Yes, that includes paper ballots, where you fill in the little bubble with a
In fact, when it comes to the scanning of the paper ballots, there's at least a couple of places to exploit right there. According to the manual, you can tell the scanner to stop counting, add or subtract, a bunch of things you wouldn't thing should be available to the user via a GUI driven interface.
THEN, the scanner creates the votes in particular folders. Those then need to be put onto a flash drive, and you can choose what folders to copy and what to ignore. THEN you take the flash drive to the destination server/drive, and copy the files off. This is where those 2k votes that just turned up in GA were "missed". They forgot to copy them off of the flash drive. Once compiled, they again put them onto a flash drive.
Chain of custody can be broken anywhere along the line, files can not be properly copied, and scans can be stopped. There's so many possible exploits just in these final steps as to be mind-bending. @codemonkeyZ posted the manual for the 5.5 system I believe a week and a half back.
It will give you a headache. Between being stone-age technology using OTS equipment and Windows 10, the entire thing is meant to be garbage.
That in fact screwed them in the end, since the shitty setup couldn't keep track of the Trump landslide. THAT is why they had to stop the count.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (8B6Ng)
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193 Hanging chads and butterfly ballots are more secure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (BenuG)
They kind of are.
Any physical media that can be audited is better than electronic records not tied to signatures and registered voters.
Butterfly ballots might be sub-optimal, but I'll take that over the Dominion machines and their ilk.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (BenuG)
They kind of are.
Any physical media that can be audited is better than electronic records not tied to signatures and registered voters.
Butterfly ballots might be sub-optimal, but I'll take that over the Dominion machines and their ilk.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (d1uFV)
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And the young LT paid no penalty for that after all.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (ZfRYq)
The thing here though is this isn't a court function. It's answering questions from politicians who are simply dumber lawyers. If half the country believes my equipment is part of a fraud scheme, I want to get out there and prove them wrong.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:20 PM (ZfRYq)
The thing here though is this isn't a court function. It's answering questions from politicians who are simply dumber lawyers. If half the country believes my equipment is part of a fraud scheme, I want to get out there and prove them wrong.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (J70i0)
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I'm pretty sure the answer is there is no reason for an election machine to run algorithms other than to cheat.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
algorithms are intrinsic to machines
but... I have heard this particular injection of code called "malware".
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (ZLI7S)
algorithms are intrinsic to machines
but... I have heard this particular injection of code called "malware".
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (sfhL4)
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RS cuck: "Georgia may not have been stolen, but it still may be lost"
You, China, and your GOPe majority that includes Mitt/ Pierre D. can go DIAF.
You, China, and your GOPe majority that includes Mitt/ Pierre D. can go DIAF.
Posted by: cooldawg at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (1zYVT)
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Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
I'll give you credit for this much.
You earn your pay
I'll give you credit for this much.
You earn your pay
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (z79tQ)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
You can check who you voted for, but not how it was "counted".
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
You can check who you voted for, but not how it was "counted".
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)
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I expect Dominion to be represented by Nathan Thurm, the nervous sweaty lawyer that Martin Short used to play on Saturday Night Live.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (oVJmc)
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Already mentioned? Dominion staff quickly erased from LinkedIn.
--POOF!--
https://tinyurl.com/y4o6oqkg
No, not sketchy at all!
--POOF!--
https://tinyurl.com/y4o6oqkg
No, not sketchy at all!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
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Are there any stop the steal rallies this weekend? I didn't know there was one in Dallas or Fort Worth until too late last weekend, but I'll go this weekend. If there are any.
Posted by: sunny-dee at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (Z2HD7)
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@105
Yeah, if you are going to manipulate the vote algorithmically, there have to be hard stops lest you exceed hard limits, ie exceed number of actual voters.
So that's probably why all of the counting stopped in the states in question, all the machines hit the hard limits and then they switched to manual fraud and manipulation.
You can hide a tabulated vote to physical ballot discrepancy of a couple of percentage points but it's harder to impossible to hide 10 - 20 pct. discrepancies.
These fucking monsters must be stopped.
Yeah, if you are going to manipulate the vote algorithmically, there have to be hard stops lest you exceed hard limits, ie exceed number of actual voters.
So that's probably why all of the counting stopped in the states in question, all the machines hit the hard limits and then they switched to manual fraud and manipulation.
You can hide a tabulated vote to physical ballot discrepancy of a couple of percentage points but it's harder to impossible to hide 10 - 20 pct. discrepancies.
These fucking monsters must be stopped.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (qEjZn)
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8 101
Posted on previous thread:
The dog that didn't Bark...
You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
Exactly what someone innocent does; destroy the evidence they did no wrong.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
*************
Hillary did the same thing and NOTHING HAPPENED.
Tell me why the Dominion outcome won't be the
same?
Posted on previous thread:
The dog that didn't Bark...
You know, they keep asking for PROOF that Dominion changed the votes. Dominion has been accused of massive fraud, yet:
- Has not put out a statement saying they are suing the Trump legal team.
- Have not put out a 'Cease and Desist' to the Trump legal team.
- Employees have scrubbed their linked in profiles
- Closed their Canada office
- Blew off the PA legislature when they had a chance to publicly defend themselves.
These statements will destroy the company if true.
That looks like evidence to me....
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (N0If5)
Exactly what someone innocent does; destroy the evidence they did no wrong.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (ynpvh)
*************
Hillary did the same thing and NOTHING HAPPENED.
Tell me why the Dominion outcome won't be the
same?
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
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Fuck ALL Kennedys.
They should have killed Teddy, too.
Posted by: garrett
Nobody had an elephant gun.
They should have killed Teddy, too.
Posted by: garrett
Nobody had an elephant gun.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (+y/Ru)
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Kayleigh to sqawking twat in the press pool... "I don't call on activists".
Posted by: BluesFish at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (WQZ1O)
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Dominion seemed suspicious when it was revealed that our voting information wasn't contained on servers inside CONUS. That fact alone tells me that something foul was happening.
And that was but a single aspect of evidence of the massive amount of voter fraud that's been exposed so far.
And that was but a single aspect of evidence of the massive amount of voter fraud that's been exposed so far.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (HaL55)
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Dominion > truth in Advertising
https://tinyurl.com/y5ul92z3
^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
https://tinyurl.com/y5ul92z3
^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (W+kMI)
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Gonna need a giant false flag to create enough chaos to run out the clock . . .
schools closed - drat
what to do what to do????
schools closed - drat
what to do what to do????
Posted by: Soros at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (KRv/6)
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You can check who you voted for, but not how it was "counted".
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)
It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)
It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (BJKQV)
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I downloaded Dominion on my laptop so now I'm first on all new threads.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)
*looks up
It's not working for you. Did you enter the correct password ?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)
*looks up
It's not working for you. Did you enter the correct password ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (zr5Kq)
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>I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
I think that's a very poor attempt at a layman's explanation, and I wish Rush would stop using it (although he doesn't know any better). I believe what they are claiming is happening is that Trump's vote margin was higher than the weighted voting function they were using, so they had hit the breaks or he would run away with it.
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
I think that's a very poor attempt at a layman's explanation, and I wish Rush would stop using it (although he doesn't know any better). I believe what they are claiming is happening is that Trump's vote margin was higher than the weighted voting function they were using, so they had hit the breaks or he would run away with it.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (L106N)
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Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (h8nNr)
in our PA county, here's what I experienced
got a paper ballot after going up, masked, to the desk and saying my name (no id needed)
filled in ballot with ballpen
put it into scanner
screen said something like ballot number 345 accepted
(I forget exact number and wording - hey I'd been lined up for 2 hours in freezing wind)
that's it
in our PA county, here's what I experienced
got a paper ballot after going up, masked, to the desk and saying my name (no id needed)
filled in ballot with ballpen
put it into scanner
screen said something like ballot number 345 accepted
(I forget exact number and wording - hey I'd been lined up for 2 hours in freezing wind)
that's it
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (nUhF0)
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Obviously, they are guilty as sin. I dont blame them for not showing up though. They just need to run out the clock, get Biden certified, and decide which partner is going to take the fall for ensuing litigation with the new DOJ under Baccera.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (JRaU+)
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (W+kMI)
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#WheresCoomer?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (oVJmc)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
They are suppose to take a picture of the filled out ballot when scanned and store it. And yet, they don't.
Can you read a QR code to know what your vote was registered as? Where are the scanned pictures of filled out ballots these voting machines like Dominion are suppose to store?
Why do voting machines assign decimal points to store a vote or a tabulation of votes?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
They are suppose to take a picture of the filled out ballot when scanned and store it. And yet, they don't.
Can you read a QR code to know what your vote was registered as? Where are the scanned pictures of filled out ballots these voting machines like Dominion are suppose to store?
Why do voting machines assign decimal points to store a vote or a tabulation of votes?
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (jvld5)
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You can check who you voted for, but not how it was "counted".
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)
- -
Exactly.
It's like a system confirming the fact that you voted, but the vote itself or how it was tallied is not verifiable. You have no idea what the machine is doing with that vote.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (ONvIw)
- -
Exactly.
It's like a system confirming the fact that you voted, but the vote itself or how it was tallied is not verifiable. You have no idea what the machine is doing with that vote.
Posted by: WitchDoktor at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (TB7HE)
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205
Why did so many states switch from whatever vote counting system they
had up till 2016 to Dominion? We were reassured multiple times by the
Obama administration that there was no way to hack into voting machines
because they were not connected to the internet, using thumb drives with
the same monitor from each party as with boxes of ballots to transport
to central tabulating stations.
I understand that the Soros SoSs and DNC needed a better way to
cheat after Trump won in 2016 but why did so many states go along with
"lets *modernize*" proposals? and then sign off on a system that was
clearly not secure? Thank god Texas declined to use Dominion but
there must have been plenty of under the table money flowing to GOPe
controlled states for those officials to sign off an system set up for
DNC fraud.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (Aashi)
The push to move to electronic voting systems began 20 years ago after the 2000 fiasco. It's been an uphill fight as local democrats everywhere have done everything possible to delay such roll-outs. Obama was referring to the places that had completed the switchover.
The reason elections infrastructure is neglected is because it's a system that's only used once every couple years and the costs to replace it statewide is not tenable for most politicians.
Why did so many states switch from whatever vote counting system they
had up till 2016 to Dominion? We were reassured multiple times by the
Obama administration that there was no way to hack into voting machines
because they were not connected to the internet, using thumb drives with
the same monitor from each party as with boxes of ballots to transport
to central tabulating stations.
I understand that the Soros SoSs and DNC needed a better way to
cheat after Trump won in 2016 but why did so many states go along with
"lets *modernize*" proposals? and then sign off on a system that was
clearly not secure? Thank god Texas declined to use Dominion but
there must have been plenty of under the table money flowing to GOPe
controlled states for those officials to sign off an system set up for
DNC fraud.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (Aashi)
The push to move to electronic voting systems began 20 years ago after the 2000 fiasco. It's been an uphill fight as local democrats everywhere have done everything possible to delay such roll-outs. Obama was referring to the places that had completed the switchover.
The reason elections infrastructure is neglected is because it's a system that's only used once every couple years and the costs to replace it statewide is not tenable for most politicians.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
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But Rudy sweated a lot. So Trump must concede.
- MSM
- MSM
Posted by: Asshoes at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (22mNy)
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212 Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
I'll give you credit for this much.
You earn your pay
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (z79tQ)
His phony baloney job in the corrupt city of New Orleans is probably dependent on the use of these machines.
I'll give you credit for this much.
You earn your pay
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (z79tQ)
His phony baloney job in the corrupt city of New Orleans is probably dependent on the use of these machines.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (vMCab)
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BREAKING NEWS: Dominnion execs arrive in Maui for PR junket.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (v0R5T)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
All that does is print out what you entered. That does not prove what was calculated.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
All that does is print out what you entered. That does not prove what was calculated.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (J70i0)
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People have to start to realize that Sidney Powell and Rudy Giulliani are serious people. The clowns on television like Dana Perino, Juan Williams etc. are not. That goes for the beta-males on internet blogs like Powerline's John Hindracker and and Paul Milgendork.
Who is stupid enough to think the Democrats would not attempt a massive fraud given what they have done over the last four years?
Who is stupid enough to think the Democrats would not attempt a massive fraud given what they have done over the last four years?
Posted by: Jesus Built My Hotrod at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (IKSVy)
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No, not sketchy at all!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
I posted a similar tweet by somebody else, who went into background detail on some particular people.
They're all being caught with their pants around their ankles.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
I posted a similar tweet by somebody else, who went into background detail on some particular people.
They're all being caught with their pants around their ankles.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (8B6Ng)
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If Powell's research is accurate, Dominion got in the voting machine software business specifically to offer rigged systems to Venezuelan despots Chavez and--later--Maduro. Rigged elections are very specifically their business, what they do.
I'm guessing Dominion's leadership is out of country and will be out of the country until Biden assumes office; that is, assuming Biden assumes office. Then all their troubles will magically disappear. From Giuliani's and Powell's perspective, there's nothing for it now but to squeeze the worker bees--middle managers & coders--and see what shakes out.
I'm guessing Dominion's leadership is out of country and will be out of the country until Biden assumes office; that is, assuming Biden assumes office. Then all their troubles will magically disappear. From Giuliani's and Powell's perspective, there's nothing for it now but to squeeze the worker bees--middle managers & coders--and see what shakes out.
Posted by: troyriser at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (OLtrr)
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I wonder if our two alleged conservative mouthpieces on morning radio covered this #DominionWalkaway yet. I can't even listen to them anymore. One of them is morphing into michael smerconish and the other one is all about the Morning Zoo.
I'd actually started to get tired of them before the election.
I'd actually started to get tired of them before the election.
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (DJFLF)
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all right, Friday meeting rush begins.
Stay calm, stay alert, make plans but wait for the 3rd box to complete before opening the 4th box.
Stay calm, stay alert, make plans but wait for the 3rd box to complete before opening the 4th box.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Trump WON, buy guns at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (d1uFV)
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Thank you for your vote citizen! Your preferences have been noted. Organ retrieval will ensue shortly thank you for getting your affairs in order!
Posted by: Friend New Deal Computer at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (vAIGZ)
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Hanging chads and butterfly ballots are more secure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM
Late-night TV applause meters are more secure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM
Late-night TV applause meters are more secure.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (OssQ4)
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Dana Perinos downfall was when asked a question about the Cuban missle crisis, she goes whut?
not knowing what it was
not knowing what it was
Posted by: will choose a nic later at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (GIeIM)
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Watch for a coordinated dump of tweets that all say Dominion employees have had to go into hiding and hire lawyers due to death threats
That's their go-to lie when they want to lie about why they won't answer
That's their go-to lie when they want to lie about why they won't answer
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (aO8Gd)
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18 US Code 595
Read the Carnegie-Mellon report on election interference by Dov Levin.
Those will both give you a little context as to what's going on here ...
Read the Carnegie-Mellon report on election interference by Dov Levin.
Those will both give you a little context as to what's going on here ...
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (a8b7P)
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Do-minion drew straws to see who got to go lie to Congress. Results delayed by con-troversy.
Posted by: klaftern at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (nUhF0)
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Putting Joshua in charge of vote counting would have been a better move.
Where's Dr. Falken and a bratty hacker played by Matthew Broderick?
Where's Dr. Falken and a bratty hacker played by Matthew Broderick?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (BenuG)
251
Well what ace said and then the proverbial delay tactic.
Posted by: Greange at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (vrolz)
252
Come on guys, just because Republicans won every "tossup" race, held every (R) Gov race and won Montana, flipped the NH legislature, managed to keep their majority in the Minnesota state Senate, maintained their supermajorities in the Kansas Legislature and destroyed Dems in Florida's down ballot races, doesn't mean Biden isn't super popular!!!
Posted by: Jay in PA at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (ar94c)
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237 The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
All that does is print out what you entered. That does not prove what was calculated.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (J70i0)
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DING DING DING
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
All that does is print out what you entered. That does not prove what was calculated.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (J70i0)
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DING DING DING
Posted by: Asshoes at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (22mNy)
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They're all being caught with their pants around their ankles.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (8B6Ng)
Oh, no, not again.
They're all being caught with their pants around their ankles.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (8B6Ng)
Oh, no, not again.
Posted by: J. Toobin at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (oVJmc)
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@203
Powell said on Glenn beck today that they will file lawsuits in the swing states next week. It's taking time to amass all the raw data from certain precincts (I'll bet it is).
For those of you who didn't hear, she also said she offered Tucker evidence that no one has seen before, and so he lied about her not offering evidence.
And twitter is pointing out that Tucker's dad was director of Voice of America, and given an Ambassadorship by GHWB
Powell said on Glenn beck today that they will file lawsuits in the swing states next week. It's taking time to amass all the raw data from certain precincts (I'll bet it is).
For those of you who didn't hear, she also said she offered Tucker evidence that no one has seen before, and so he lied about her not offering evidence.
And twitter is pointing out that Tucker's dad was director of Voice of America, and given an Ambassadorship by GHWB
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (AwPyG)
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52- it seems some are trying, but not enough. They are doing it on their own. That is one way to help.
National conservative group Amistad Project to challenge presidential election results in key states
The Trump campaign will join with Amistad Project on the lawsuits on case-by-case basis
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM
Hopefully a lawyer can explain this for me. There are a lot of lawsuits out there and I am not sure on whose behalf they are being filed. For example, I have seen conflicting reports that Lin Wood is not actually on the Trump legal team. Rather, he has filed a separate suit on behalf of other plaintiffs. I thought I heard that such lawsuits are being thrown out for lack of standing. And then those rejections are being reported as a loss for Trump. Is the Trump campaign the only entity with standing? Is this perhaps why the campaign is joining the Amistad Project in their suit?
National conservative group Amistad Project to challenge presidential election results in key states
The Trump campaign will join with Amistad Project on the lawsuits on case-by-case basis
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM
Hopefully a lawyer can explain this for me. There are a lot of lawsuits out there and I am not sure on whose behalf they are being filed. For example, I have seen conflicting reports that Lin Wood is not actually on the Trump legal team. Rather, he has filed a separate suit on behalf of other plaintiffs. I thought I heard that such lawsuits are being thrown out for lack of standing. And then those rejections are being reported as a loss for Trump. Is the Trump campaign the only entity with standing? Is this perhaps why the campaign is joining the Amistad Project in their suit?
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (qe5CM)
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No, not sketchy at all!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
Here'st hat thread I mentioned - my history is already a page long...
https://tinyurl.com/y6pe9v6t
But, RUSSIA!!!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
Here'st hat thread I mentioned - my history is already a page long...
https://tinyurl.com/y6pe9v6t
But, RUSSIA!!!
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (8B6Ng)
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His phony baloney job in the corrupt city of New Orleans is probably dependent on the use of these machines.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (vMCab)
he said as much
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (vMCab)
he said as much
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (nUhF0)
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The reason elections infrastructure is neglected is because it's a system that's only used once every couple years and the costs to replace it statewide is not tenable for most politicians.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
Elections occur just about every year. A lot of times they can occur twice a year even when its not a presidential election or an off year election. Hack.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
Elections occur just about every year. A lot of times they can occur twice a year even when its not a presidential election or an off year election. Hack.
Posted by: buzzion at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (vMCab)
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I think it was Nick Searcy the asked, why didn't Tucker have anyone from
Dominion on his show to refute Powell's claims. Has any Dominion
spokesman answered the charges? An honest media might be hounding them
but that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Yes, this. The entire media, even those who aren't on the left-leaning fringe, are conditioned to only and always attack conservative answers or ideas or allegations. When a Democrat makes an accusation, they immediately make it into a headline and hound the Republicans about it forever. When a Republican says something, they go down a thousand rabbit holes to find ways to dismiss their point.
I think it was Nick Searcy the asked, why didn't Tucker have anyone from
Dominion on his show to refute Powell's claims. Has any Dominion
spokesman answered the charges? An honest media might be hounding them
but that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Yes, this. The entire media, even those who aren't on the left-leaning fringe, are conditioned to only and always attack conservative answers or ideas or allegations. When a Democrat makes an accusation, they immediately make it into a headline and hound the Republicans about it forever. When a Republican says something, they go down a thousand rabbit holes to find ways to dismiss their point.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (3J5Re)
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>>241 I wonder if our two alleged conservative mouthpieces on morning radio Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (DJFLF)
Our area's morning show is unbearable. Vince Coglianese and his sidekick Mary Walter. Walter has the intelligence of a flea.
Our area's morning show is unbearable. Vince Coglianese and his sidekick Mary Walter. Walter has the intelligence of a flea.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (xK9An)
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That will not stop a change in tally if the computer program demands one.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling
Yep.
But since the paper ballot is in the box, no matter what the computer says, if they count the paper ballots, the fraud gets exposed.
Except that some of the people reading the paper ballots know better than I do for whom I meant to vote! (Deep, dark, bitter, sarcasm, if that wasn't clear)
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling
Yep.
But since the paper ballot is in the box, no matter what the computer says, if they count the paper ballots, the fraud gets exposed.
Except that some of the people reading the paper ballots know better than I do for whom I meant to vote! (Deep, dark, bitter, sarcasm, if that wasn't clear)
Posted by: Dianna at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (h8nNr)
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The thing here though is this isn't a court function. It's answering questions from politicians who are simply dumber lawyers. If half the country believes my equipment is part of a fraud scheme, I want to get out there and prove them wrong.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (J70i0)
This is true. But - again not in Dominion's defense - given the current circumstances, were I them, whether I was guilty or innocent, I would not be rushing to provide some sort of clownshow.
You want to know something, please submit your questions to our attorney's and they will get back to you.
Perhaps there is a prudent PR strategy that may be available to an innocent company, but still isn't executed by that company? Could be. Could be they are guilty as sin. Either way, the fact they cancelled the appearance doesn't really indicate one way or another.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (J70i0)
This is true. But - again not in Dominion's defense - given the current circumstances, were I them, whether I was guilty or innocent, I would not be rushing to provide some sort of clownshow.
You want to know something, please submit your questions to our attorney's and they will get back to you.
Perhaps there is a prudent PR strategy that may be available to an innocent company, but still isn't executed by that company? Could be. Could be they are guilty as sin. Either way, the fact they cancelled the appearance doesn't really indicate one way or another.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq)
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Hillary did the same thing and NOTHING HAPPENED.
Tell me why the Dominion outcome won't be the
same?
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
- Over 100 million armed citizens pissed off as fuck.
- Trump has the military now its bypassing intel agencies and the managerial class. They have been cut out of the loop.
Tell me why the Dominion outcome won't be the
same?
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (NpAcC)
- Over 100 million armed citizens pissed off as fuck.
- Trump has the military now its bypassing intel agencies and the managerial class. They have been cut out of the loop.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (jvld5)
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"Dominion Voting Systems Thursday night abruptly backed out of attending a fact-finding hearing that was set for Friday morning with the Pennsylvania House State Government Committee."
THAT'S NOT EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING! STOP BEING PARANOID. HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY! GIVE UP ALREADY AND BOW DOWN TO YOUR NEW COMMUNIST OVERLORDS!!1!
THAT'S NOT EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING! STOP BEING PARANOID. HOPE IS NOT A STRATEGY! GIVE UP ALREADY AND BOW DOWN TO YOUR NEW COMMUNIST OVERLORDS!!1!
Posted by: Of Course I'm Conservative, Why Do You Ask? at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (lRrON)
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That's their go-to lie when they want to lie about why they won't answer
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (aO8Gd)
Shit.
I guess a bunch of Serbians can't play the race card? What happened to white privilege?
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 12:32 PM (aO8Gd)
Shit.
I guess a bunch of Serbians can't play the race card? What happened to white privilege?
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: The Bill Barr Ineffectualness Haiku Generator at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (3LmBI)
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One point I don't think anyone seems to be making. We are being led to believe all elections are secure UNLESS someone proves otherwise. That is not how this is supposed to work.
These states are running these elections for us and there are many safeguards in place to secure them. They have to be transparent and accountable to SHOW THEIR WORK. They need to prove these elections are fair and if they fail to prove that then we can assume there is a problem. That is what the state certification process is there for. You cant certify the results until you can prove they are fair and auditable.
These states are running these elections for us and there are many safeguards in place to secure them. They have to be transparent and accountable to SHOW THEIR WORK. They need to prove these elections are fair and if they fail to prove that then we can assume there is a problem. That is what the state certification process is there for. You cant certify the results until you can prove they are fair and auditable.
Posted by: PJ Nagrom at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (nDjXh)
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I think Lin Wood filed a suit on his own behalf as a GA resident, unless something changed.
Posted by: Iasonas at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (IVj0Y)
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I think it was Nick Searcy the asked, why didn't Tucker have anyone from Dominion on his show to refute Powell's claims. Has any Dominion spokesman answered the charges? An honest media might be hounding them but that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Brilliant remark.
It makes you think Tucker was trying to get the scoop to broadcast to the enemy.
journalism my butt
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Brilliant remark.
It makes you think Tucker was trying to get the scoop to broadcast to the enemy.
journalism my butt
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (sfhL4)
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264 The thing here though is this isn't a court function. It's answering questions from politicians who are simply dumber lawyers. If half the country believes my equipment is part of a fraud scheme, I want to get out there and prove them wrong.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (J70i0)
This is true. But - again not in Dominion's defense - given the current circumstances, were I them, whether I was guilty or innocent, I would not be rushing to provide some sort of clownshow.
You want to know something, please submit your questions to our attorney's and they will get back to you.
Perhaps there is a prudent PR strategy that may be available to an innocent company, but still isn't executed by that company? Could be. Could be they are guilty as sin. Either way, the fact they cancelled the appearance doesn't really indicate one way or another.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq)
They have favorable media and Congress is no threat to anyone, let alone a state legislature.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (J70i0)
This is true. But - again not in Dominion's defense - given the current circumstances, were I them, whether I was guilty or innocent, I would not be rushing to provide some sort of clownshow.
You want to know something, please submit your questions to our attorney's and they will get back to you.
Perhaps there is a prudent PR strategy that may be available to an innocent company, but still isn't executed by that company? Could be. Could be they are guilty as sin. Either way, the fact they cancelled the appearance doesn't really indicate one way or another.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq)
They have favorable media and Congress is no threat to anyone, let alone a state legislature.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (Zm+LZ)
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@252
that's what's so funny--what do the dems do now? they lost in a landslide, but they're trying to convince everyone not to believe their own eyes.
On the other hand, the strategy does seem to have worked for covid.
that's what's so funny--what do the dems do now? they lost in a landslide, but they're trying to convince everyone not to believe their own eyes.
On the other hand, the strategy does seem to have worked for covid.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (AwPyG)
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Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
***
The
best case argument that can be made, I believe, is that they were
selling the same machines/software to countries that don't want fair
election results like Venezuela or China...
Of course that brings up the obvious question as to why they'd be selected by anyone in the US....
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (qlFIA)
At some point, code (software or firmware) has to be used. There's a scanner whose output needs to be examined for where the voter's marks show up (algorithm), how much of the target area is filled (another algorithm--how do you determine if the ballot needs to be rejected for a person to review?), and so forth, all the way to the algorithm that tallies the count for each candidate and adds whatever encryption and quality control information (e.g. time-stamps, error-correction codes) is required. At each step in the process, something could go amiss (intentionally or not), depending on how robust the code and hardware are.
Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
***
The
best case argument that can be made, I believe, is that they were
selling the same machines/software to countries that don't want fair
election results like Venezuela or China...
Of course that brings up the obvious question as to why they'd be selected by anyone in the US....
Posted by: 18-1 at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (qlFIA)
At some point, code (software or firmware) has to be used. There's a scanner whose output needs to be examined for where the voter's marks show up (algorithm), how much of the target area is filled (another algorithm--how do you determine if the ballot needs to be rejected for a person to review?), and so forth, all the way to the algorithm that tallies the count for each candidate and adds whatever encryption and quality control information (e.g. time-stamps, error-correction codes) is required. At each step in the process, something could go amiss (intentionally or not), depending on how robust the code and hardware are.
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (ynpvh)
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*willowed*
Based on what Sidney Powell put forth yesterday, at the very least there should be a **legitimate** (ie...not like the GA 'recount') manual recount and audit done of every state that used the Dominion voting system, period.
Based on what Sidney Powell put forth yesterday, at the very least there should be a **legitimate** (ie...not like the GA 'recount') manual recount and audit done of every state that used the Dominion voting system, period.
Posted by: J.D. at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (9N0tV)
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239 No, not sketchy at all!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
I posted a similar tweet by somebody else, who went into background detail on some particular people.
They're all being caught with their pants around their ankles.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (8B6Ng)
I'm a trailbla zer!
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh)
I posted a similar tweet by somebody else, who went into background detail on some particular people.
They're all being caught with their pants around their ankles.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:31 PM (8B6Ng)
I'm a trailbla zer!
Posted by: Jeff Toobin at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (Izzlo)
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They also abruptly moved their offices in Canada and their executives took down their social media profiles.
I dunno about you guys, but when I think "honest outfit" I always think about folks who go dark, move offices, refuse legislative summonses and benefit from total media blackouts...
I dunno about you guys, but when I think "honest outfit" I always think about folks who go dark, move offices, refuse legislative summonses and benefit from total media blackouts...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (hYcqw)
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BO on some show said that "they" will use Navy Seals to remove Trump from WH.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
279
The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Does that say for whom the person voted? No.
Atrium County, Michigan, had a very interesting problem in which Biden was awarded thousands of Trump votes.
Dominion assigned the guilt to a staff member didn't update software. So... a previous version assigned votes to the wrong candidate? Oh, that's plausible.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Does that say for whom the person voted? No.
Atrium County, Michigan, had a very interesting problem in which Biden was awarded thousands of Trump votes.
Dominion assigned the guilt to a staff member didn't update software. So... a previous version assigned votes to the wrong candidate? Oh, that's plausible.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (fxCK2)
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The only "algorithm" that should run in a vote tabulating device is an accumulator, end of story. Anything else (in the US at least, where we operate under "one man, one vote") is for fraud.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (L106N)
281
I downloaded Dominion on my laptop so now I'm first on all new threads.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)
*looks up
It's not working for you. Did you enter the correct password ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (zr5Kq)
........
password: liecheatsteal
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:26 PM (kTF2Z)
*looks up
It's not working for you. Did you enter the correct password ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (zr5Kq)
........
password: liecheatsteal
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (v0R5T)
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234 But Rudy sweated a lot. So Trump must concede.
- MSM
Posted by: Asshoes at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (22mNy)
............
That is a style critique over substance, which tells you more about the superficiality of the MSM.
- MSM
Posted by: Asshoes at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (22mNy)
............
That is a style critique over substance, which tells you more about the superficiality of the MSM.
Posted by: Greange at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (vrolz)
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I was thinking the Dominion angle was a dry hole.
I say Dry Hole open for Raging Erection, and it was not pretty.
I say Dry Hole open for Raging Erection, and it was not pretty.
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (Y2lPe)
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Serious question: Why does a menial task like COUNTING VOTES require the computational power of said Dominion services?
Listening to Powell talk about this systems ability to mold an election result like clay was infuriating.
Bring these fuckers down...BAMN
Listening to Powell talk about this systems ability to mold an election result like clay was infuriating.
Bring these fuckers down...BAMN
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (Pfv5J)
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214 I expect Dominion to be represented by Nathan Thurm, the nervous sweaty lawyer that Martin Short used to play on Saturday Night Live.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (oVJmc
You ever thought about yourself and how you might count votes? Maybe it's you?
214 I expect Dominion to be represented by Nathan Thurm, the nervous sweaty lawyer that Martin Short used to play on Saturday Night Live.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (oVJmc
You ever thought about yourself and how you might count votes? Maybe it's you?
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (lg/F7)
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Gonna need a giant false flag to create enough chaos to run out the clock . . .
schools closed - drat
what to do what to do????
Posted by: Soros at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM
There's only one type of gathering allowed: BurnLootMurder/Pantyfa riots. It's easy enough to figure out once you acknowledge that they view their shock troops as completely expendable.
schools closed - drat
what to do what to do????
Posted by: Soros at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM
There's only one type of gathering allowed: BurnLootMurder/Pantyfa riots. It's easy enough to figure out once you acknowledge that they view their shock troops as completely expendable.
Posted by: Bert G at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (OMsf+)
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>>Here'st hat thread I mentioned - my history is already a page long...
https://tinyurl.com/y6pe9v6t
Oh yes - I saw that one, verrrry interesting.
https://tinyurl.com/y6pe9v6t
Oh yes - I saw that one, verrrry interesting.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (bDqIh)
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The voters arrive here and are carried along the corridor on a conveyor belt in extreme comfort, past murals depicting Mediterranean scenes, towards the rotating knives. The last twenty feet of the corridor are heavily soundproofed.
Posted by: DVS at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (yQpMk)
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Dominion > truth in Advertising
https://tinyurl.com/y5ul92z3
^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM
Shit, that in your face, isn't it? WTF??!
https://tinyurl.com/y5ul92z3
^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM
Shit, that in your face, isn't it? WTF??!
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (OssQ4)
290
Think there is anything President Trumps legal team can do about Georgia? Or do we just put that State in the lost column?
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (uyKdz)
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The classic definition of 'algorithm' is a set of steps that can be completed in finite time. So any computer code fits that definition (except infinite loops I guess.)
These days the word 'algorithm' has taken on kind of a sinister general meaning of "code that facilitates a scam or sneaky scheme." Human stock traders talk disparagingly about 'algos,' by which they mean computer trades.
I've never designed or administrated a computerized voting system, so I don't know what features are considered best practices. Just spitballing, I'd guess there should be no feature that allows changing recorded votes in any way: it should be just a counter and accumulator. But that's just a guess. Maybe _every_ brand of computerized voting system has _some_ way of altering records. If it uses an SQL DB for example, I'd be surprised if there wasn't code on every machine to do SQL queries and administration.
If somebody at the polling place has root privileges, they can do anything they want I suppose. If nobody at the polling place has root privileges, then how is the system administered and troubleshot?
These days the word 'algorithm' has taken on kind of a sinister general meaning of "code that facilitates a scam or sneaky scheme." Human stock traders talk disparagingly about 'algos,' by which they mean computer trades.
I've never designed or administrated a computerized voting system, so I don't know what features are considered best practices. Just spitballing, I'd guess there should be no feature that allows changing recorded votes in any way: it should be just a counter and accumulator. But that's just a guess. Maybe _every_ brand of computerized voting system has _some_ way of altering records. If it uses an SQL DB for example, I'd be surprised if there wasn't code on every machine to do SQL queries and administration.
If somebody at the polling place has root privileges, they can do anything they want I suppose. If nobody at the polling place has root privileges, then how is the system administered and troubleshot?
Posted by: gp, Standing Up For What's Too High To Reach Otherwise at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (qpX6U)
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Here is what I would do if I were going to audit Dominion machines.
Sieze a few from non-contested areas and contested areas - unannounced of course. Run 1000 ballots each with Trump and Biden selected for President.
Get the counts.
That will tell you something.
Sieze a few from non-contested areas and contested areas - unannounced of course. Run 1000 ballots each with Trump and Biden selected for President.
Get the counts.
That will tell you something.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (ZfRYq)
293
he said as much
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (zr5Kq)
Where have I said as much? I don't work in New Orleans and my job is only ancillary to elections.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:33 PM (zr5Kq)
Where have I said as much? I don't work in New Orleans and my job is only ancillary to elections.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (CQ3Qb)
294
Lou Dobbs and VDH brought up a good point.
Why wouldn't Dominion be out there, front and center advocating for their systems right away? As soon as they were mentioned? Not being called before anyone. Vouching for the quality and accuracy and --- fraud proof?
Correct.
We know why.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Don't know if it was Dominion or SmartTech (sp?) but one of their reps is on record saying {something like} "Trump is NOT going to win. I made fuckin' sure of that ..."
Which doesn't sound suspicious at all.
OK, I checked: Eric Coomer of Dominion Canada ...
conservativeangle.com
Why wouldn't Dominion be out there, front and center advocating for their systems right away? As soon as they were mentioned? Not being called before anyone. Vouching for the quality and accuracy and --- fraud proof?
Correct.
We know why.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Don't know if it was Dominion or SmartTech (sp?) but one of their reps is on record saying {something like} "Trump is NOT going to win. I made fuckin' sure of that ..."
Which doesn't sound suspicious at all.
OK, I checked: Eric Coomer of Dominion Canada ...
conservativeangle.com
Posted by: Adriane the Hat with Tri-color Ribbon Critic ... at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (LPnfS)
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Dominion had initially agreed to attend the hearing, before it "abruptly canceled," Grove said.
GREAT time for the Republican legislature to vote!
Boom! Settled! That's one state down!
Or "we gonna failure theater cuz (1) the serfs never catch on and (2) big donors gonna expose our bribes if we disobey"?
GREAT time for the Republican legislature to vote!
Boom! Settled! That's one state down!
Or "we gonna failure theater cuz (1) the serfs never catch on and (2) big donors gonna expose our bribes if we disobey"?
Posted by: Gilded at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (wGA+o)
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got a paper ballot after going up, masked, to the desk and saying my name (no id needed)
filled in ballot with ballpen
put it into scanner
screen said something like ballot number 345 accepted
---
That's basically what we have in Indiana, except that you do show ID on the way in.
I've been thinking that it would be nice if the scanner told you what it scanned so you could catch errors right then -- but I guess it's no different than when you used to put the paper ballot right in Ye Olde Wooden Ballot Box.
filled in ballot with ballpen
put it into scanner
screen said something like ballot number 345 accepted
---
That's basically what we have in Indiana, except that you do show ID on the way in.
I've been thinking that it would be nice if the scanner told you what it scanned so you could catch errors right then -- but I guess it's no different than when you used to put the paper ballot right in Ye Olde Wooden Ballot Box.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (sGnvY)
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I think it was Nick Searcy the asked, why didn't Tucker have anyone from
Dominion on his show to refute Powell's claims. Has any Dominion
spokesman answered the charges? An honest media might be hounding them
but that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Yes, this. The entire media, even those who aren't on the left-leaning fringe, are conditioned to only and always attack conservative answers or ideas or allegations. When a Democrat makes an accusation, they immediately make it into a headline and hound the Republicans about it forever. When a Republican says something, they go down a thousand rabbit holes to find ways to dismiss their point.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (3J5Re)
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Dominion would just go on the show and deny everything as a conspiracy theory. It would be a waste of time.
Dominion on his show to refute Powell's claims. Has any Dominion
spokesman answered the charges? An honest media might be hounding them
but that's too much to ask.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (oh+79)
Yes, this. The entire media, even those who aren't on the left-leaning fringe, are conditioned to only and always attack conservative answers or ideas or allegations. When a Democrat makes an accusation, they immediately make it into a headline and hound the Republicans about it forever. When a Republican says something, they go down a thousand rabbit holes to find ways to dismiss their point.
Posted by: Mad Max in VA at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (3J5Re)
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Dominion would just go on the show and deny everything as a conspiracy theory. It would be a waste of time.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (NpAcC)
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@268
the fact we haven't heard a single peep from Barr makes me think that maybe he's on the good guys side? If he was on the bad guys side, you'd think he'd have held some stupid press conference like that poor sap from GA, to try to convince us he's not a traitor.
the fact we haven't heard a single peep from Barr makes me think that maybe he's on the good guys side? If he was on the bad guys side, you'd think he'd have held some stupid press conference like that poor sap from GA, to try to convince us he's not a traitor.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (AwPyG)
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Rudy didn't sweat half as much as Meghan McCain's back-fat in a stretch top.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (VpIIl)
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This just in: Dominion announced they're invoking the Fifth Amendment.
Nothing to see here. Old news. Debunked.
Plus, I have a question re the company's name: Dominion ... over what?
Or do I know the answer to that already?
Nothing to see here. Old news. Debunked.
Plus, I have a question re the company's name: Dominion ... over what?
Or do I know the answer to that already?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (GArKj)
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Perhaps there is a prudent PR strategy that may be available to an innocent company, but still isn't executed by that company? Could be. Could be they are guilty as sin. Either way, the fact they cancelled the appearance doesn't really indicate one way or another.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq)
I'm not the only one to notice that one might require all info for one thing but not the same from another. Did you get a chance to find Powells response yet or still clinging to that link?
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq)
I'm not the only one to notice that one might require all info for one thing but not the same from another. Did you get a chance to find Powells response yet or still clinging to that link?
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (+2xjH)
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Somebody in the ONT said, without a link or anything, that Dominion and Smartmatic had disappeared from the internet and even their offices.
Of course, with no link, I didn't believe it. People need to stop believing everything they see, just because it sounds good for our side. That's what the Left does.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (OssQ4)
I asked for a link, got no response.
Did a look for myself, found nothing.
But today? Who knows.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (z79tQ)
I think it was in the news conference where either Sidney or Rudy said they evacuated their offices (same floor as Soros offices).
As far as the online presence, I think they meant LinkedIn. That has been all over the place, with screen shots for a while now. As soon as their names were mentioned.
Of course, with no link, I didn't believe it. People need to stop believing everything they see, just because it sounds good for our side. That's what the Left does.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (OssQ4)
I asked for a link, got no response.
Did a look for myself, found nothing.
But today? Who knows.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:16 PM (z79tQ)
I think it was in the news conference where either Sidney or Rudy said they evacuated their offices (same floor as Soros offices).
As far as the online presence, I think they meant LinkedIn. That has been all over the place, with screen shots for a while now. As soon as their names were mentioned.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (sfhL4)
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WSBTV: DeKalb County, Georgia, elections manager fired for errors that had been found in ballot audit
Yet I see the awarded GA to biden?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (Zmnko)
even better, the GOPe SoS said words to the effect of
"I believe the vote totals should be accurate"
i don't remember the exact wording, but i cough a laugh at i believe. not a definitive, the vote IS.
read into that what you will...
Yet I see the awarded GA to biden?
Posted by: It's me donna at November 20, 2020 12:10 PM (Zmnko)
even better, the GOPe SoS said words to the effect of
"I believe the vote totals should be accurate"
i don't remember the exact wording, but i cough a laugh at i believe. not a definitive, the vote IS.
read into that what you will...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (8D42x)
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>> Kayleigh to sqawking twat in the press pool... "I don't call on activists".
Has even ONE journo-activist asked Joey Fingers or Commie to comment on possible voter fraud? I haven't seen/heard this - it would give them a chance to look all horrified at the question, and scream "of course not" and then the hacks could say, "see, we asked and they said no, so that's all we need to know... and see, we're not biased!".
Has even ONE journo-activist asked Joey Fingers or Commie to comment on possible voter fraud? I haven't seen/heard this - it would give them a chance to look all horrified at the question, and scream "of course not" and then the hacks could say, "see, we asked and they said no, so that's all we need to know... and see, we're not biased!".
Posted by: DJ at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (O3/K+)
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Does anyone else find it odd that the chairman of Smartmatic, the former administrator of the TSA under Obama/Biden, is on the Biden transition team?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (ZLI7S)
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Here is what I would do if I were going to audit Dominion machines.
Sieze a few from non-contested areas and contested areas - unannounced of course. Run 1000 ballots each with Trump and Biden selected for President.
Get the counts.
That will tell you something.
Only if they are not connected to the 'Internet of Things' which allows for software upgrade from remote sites ...
Sieze a few from non-contested areas and contested areas - unannounced of course. Run 1000 ballots each with Trump and Biden selected for President.
Get the counts.
That will tell you something.
Only if they are not connected to the 'Internet of Things' which allows for software upgrade from remote sites ...
Posted by: Adriane the Hat with Tri-color Ribbon Critic ... at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (LPnfS)
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270 I think Lin Wood filed a suit on his own behalf as a GA resident, unless something changed.
Posted by: Iasonas at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM
Thanks- that rings a bell.
Posted by: Iasonas at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM
Thanks- that rings a bell.
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (qe5CM)
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51 They thought he'd concede.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ONvIw)
This is where they failed...and they poorly hid their criminal acts. They also thought the election would be closer...but I firmly believe that Trump got 80 million plus and Joe got less than 65 million votes. It didn't require simple algorithms it needed a full on dump of illegal ballots and deliberate addition of false numbers. They were clumsy and foolish. This is way worse than telling James Bond the plot and wanting him to die before turning your back on him.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ONvIw)
This is where they failed...and they poorly hid their criminal acts. They also thought the election would be closer...but I firmly believe that Trump got 80 million plus and Joe got less than 65 million votes. It didn't require simple algorithms it needed a full on dump of illegal ballots and deliberate addition of false numbers. They were clumsy and foolish. This is way worse than telling James Bond the plot and wanting him to die before turning your back on him.
Posted by: The Mouse that Roared, Americans don't Serf at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (h81g2)
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Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
It sounds like something you'd call an obvious CIA front in a movie.
It sounds like something you'd call an obvious CIA front in a movie.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (ZGrMX)
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I think no one from Dominion wants to go on record because they all have deep connections to well known bad guys, like soros and the clinton foundation.
It would give the game away.
It would give the game away.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (AwPyG)
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The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
Oh, yay.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
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278 BO on some show said that "they" will use Navy Seals to remove Trump from WH.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (lRrON)
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Will their voting machines work though if you run them in an electronically sealed room with no WiFi or Internet?
If they fail to run in those conditions.
Not Secure.
If they fail to run in those conditions.
Not Secure.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (BenuG)
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Where have I said as much? I don't work in New Orleans and my job is only ancillary to elections.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (CQ3Qb)
You mention that you had a one of then sitting next to you, or you were in close proximity to one when questions of fraud came up; you were questioning the fraud allegations. You did not say anything to that effect ?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (CQ3Qb)
You mention that you had a one of then sitting next to you, or you were in close proximity to one when questions of fraud came up; you were questioning the fraud allegations. You did not say anything to that effect ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (zr5Kq)
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Personally, I'm GLAD that Dominion backed out. Allowing these people to "testify" at some political meeting is just giving them a platform for self-promotion and to spout lies to defend themselves.
Just let the evidence built up against them. If they try to speak, I'd recommend shutting them up. So by refusing to testify, they're voluntarily doing what I'd want to happen anyway.
What do you think would happen if they'd testify? "Yes indeed, we confess that we rigged the election." ??? That ain't gonna happen, ever. So what's the point?
Just let the evidence built up against them. If they try to speak, I'd recommend shutting them up. So by refusing to testify, they're voluntarily doing what I'd want to happen anyway.
What do you think would happen if they'd testify? "Yes indeed, we confess that we rigged the election." ??? That ain't gonna happen, ever. So what's the point?
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (Y2lPe)
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Does anyone find it odd that FL got its shit together and put together a very good model for voting but the less reliable states cling to their old system.
I wonder why?
I wonder why?
Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (gAMkn)
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@105
Yeah, if you are going to manipulate the vote algorithmically, there
have to be hard stops lest you exceed hard limits, ie exceed number of
actual voters.
So that's probably why all of the counting stopped in the states in
question, all the machines hit the hard limits and then they switched to
manual fraud and manipulation.
You can hide a tabulated vote to physical ballot discrepancy of a
couple of percentage points but it's harder to impossible to hide 10 -
20 pct. discrepancies.
These fucking monsters must be stopped.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (qEjZn)
The natural gas pipeline biz accepts 0.5% [one-half of one percent] as the upper limit on lost and unaccounted for gas. And that was the allowance in the days of analog gas measuring devices and paper chart measurement integrators.
Yeah, if you are going to manipulate the vote algorithmically, there
have to be hard stops lest you exceed hard limits, ie exceed number of
actual voters.
So that's probably why all of the counting stopped in the states in
question, all the machines hit the hard limits and then they switched to
manual fraud and manipulation.
You can hide a tabulated vote to physical ballot discrepancy of a
couple of percentage points but it's harder to impossible to hide 10 -
20 pct. discrepancies.
These fucking monsters must be stopped.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 12:28 PM (qEjZn)
The natural gas pipeline biz accepts 0.5% [one-half of one percent] as the upper limit on lost and unaccounted for gas. And that was the allowance in the days of analog gas measuring devices and paper chart measurement integrators.
Posted by: Arthur Andersen and Co. at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (4I/2K)
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I see none of you fuckers know how to nood anymore....
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (EGyGV)
Thread Winner!
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (EGyGV)
Thread Winner!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (sfhL4)
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Just remember sports fans, it all started with the curious call by FoxNews of Arizona for Biden.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl)
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@24
If Trump got 100 votes and Biden got 10. They would have to set the flip rate so high it would not be believable. They were having to fraudulently convert solid red districts to blue to give Biden the number of votes to win.
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
If Trump got 100 votes and Biden got 10. They would have to set the flip rate so high it would not be believable. They were having to fraudulently convert solid red districts to blue to give Biden the number of votes to win.
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo8)
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@284
Looking at their site and their brochures, the systems don't just do tabulation, they can do reporting and analytics.
So, right there is a problem.
You can use analytics to analyze a result, you can also use analytics to shape a result.
Looking at their site and their brochures, the systems don't just do tabulation, they can do reporting and analytics.
So, right there is a problem.
You can use analytics to analyze a result, you can also use analytics to shape a result.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (qEjZn)
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BO on some show said that "they" will use Navy Seals to remove Trump from WH.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (lRrON)
He is already thinking of his 3rd term....
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (lRrON)
He is already thinking of his 3rd term....
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (zr5Kq)
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Think the challenge for any Dominion representatives at this point is that there's too much info out there including:
-- CodeMonkeyz's detailed reading of the Dominion user manual
-- Dominion training videos
-- Eric Coomer's social media/call where he said. "I took acre of it" or whatever
-- The Detroit Dominion whistle-blower who outed the VP's response to her report of obvious fraud (same 50 ballots entered 8-10 times across ~40 machines
They can't bluff and say "that's not possible with our machines" nor can they eloquently dispute Eric Coomer's comments and antifa ties. Last thing they want is to be stuck in a discussion about "Has it happened?" instead of "Could it happen?"
That, plus Sidney saying contact us now if you want to avoid prosecution.
-- CodeMonkeyz's detailed reading of the Dominion user manual
-- Dominion training videos
-- Eric Coomer's social media/call where he said. "I took acre of it" or whatever
-- The Detroit Dominion whistle-blower who outed the VP's response to her report of obvious fraud (same 50 ballots entered 8-10 times across ~40 machines
They can't bluff and say "that's not possible with our machines" nor can they eloquently dispute Eric Coomer's comments and antifa ties. Last thing they want is to be stuck in a discussion about "Has it happened?" instead of "Could it happen?"
That, plus Sidney saying contact us now if you want to avoid prosecution.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (bDqIh)
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Remember the FBI is on team Biden's side.
Nothing to see here... move along.
Nothing to see here... move along.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (NpAcC)
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What bothers me is that with ALL of the lawyers in
the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why
aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
It is not him they object to... its us. They are not going to defend the political choices of deplorables.
the country, and there are millions - everyone has a law degree... Why
aren't more stepping up to help our President?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:02 PM (sfhL4)
It is not him they object to... its us. They are not going to defend the political choices of deplorables.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (946rW)
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Don't know if it was Dominion or SmartTech (sp?) but one of their reps is on record saying {something like} "Trump is NOT going to win. I made fuckin' sure of that ..."
Which doesn't sound suspicious at all.
OK, I checked: Eric Coomer of Dominion Canada ...
I still love that name. If you don't know, "coomer" has a very specific Urban Dictionary meaning.
Which doesn't sound suspicious at all.
OK, I checked: Eric Coomer of Dominion Canada ...
I still love that name. If you don't know, "coomer" has a very specific Urban Dictionary meaning.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (ZGrMX)
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>>Smartmatic
Sounds like something Irwin Mainway would try to sell on SNL.
"Yeah, see, it's a Smartmatic. You just put the helmet on your head, here, like this, and flip the switch and hey, presto, you're smarter. Smartmatic. I mean, c'mon, it says smart right there in the name!"
Sounds like something Irwin Mainway would try to sell on SNL.
"Yeah, see, it's a Smartmatic. You just put the helmet on your head, here, like this, and flip the switch and hey, presto, you're smarter. Smartmatic. I mean, c'mon, it says smart right there in the name!"
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (xK9An)
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I'm not the only one to notice that one might require all info for one thing but not the same from another. Did you get a chance to find Powells response yet or still clinging to that link?
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (+2xjH)
Are you still on that?
Okay, here:
https://tinyurl.com/y68j4drb
That goes to the morning report.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:37 PM (+2xjH)
Are you still on that?
Okay, here:
https://tinyurl.com/y68j4drb
That goes to the morning report.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (ZfRYq)
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I mean, he never stopped. He also loves Bush for giving him and his people legitimacy.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (zr5Kq)
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I downloaded Dominion on my laptop so now I'm first on all new threads.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Pfffffft. I downloaded Dominion software to my Apple Watch and I walked 270,000 steps last hour.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Pfffffft. I downloaded Dominion software to my Apple Watch and I walked 270,000 steps last hour.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (+ZSW1)
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>The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
LOL, a take home receipt doesn't mean jack shit for election integrity.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
LOL, a take home receipt doesn't mean jack shit for election integrity.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (L106N)
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316 Does anyone find it odd that FL got its shit together and put together a very good model for voting but the less reliable states cling to their old system.
I wonder why?
Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (gAMkn)
...................
Florida and Ohio....
I wonder why?
Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (gAMkn)
...................
Florida and Ohio....
Posted by: Greange at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (/mFuM)
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"I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to
say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes
than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)"
They needed to goose a certain number of votes, but keep it believable. The voting machine jiggery does it in such a way that you have, say, 100 people vote, the real vote is 49/51, and it changes enough so that it's 52/48.
However, if the parameters you chose aren't enough to throw the result - if it was going to be 40/60, say - you either have to change them (which they did in some states, during the pause, via software updates), or cheat in another way, in this case, stuffing mail in ballots. But the number of ballots needed in some areas was outside the realm of realistically possible mail in votes.
say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes
than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)"
They needed to goose a certain number of votes, but keep it believable. The voting machine jiggery does it in such a way that you have, say, 100 people vote, the real vote is 49/51, and it changes enough so that it's 52/48.
However, if the parameters you chose aren't enough to throw the result - if it was going to be 40/60, say - you either have to change them (which they did in some states, during the pause, via software updates), or cheat in another way, in this case, stuffing mail in ballots. But the number of ballots needed in some areas was outside the realm of realistically possible mail in votes.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (EEVQU)
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Has even ONE journo-activist asked Joey Fingers or Commie to comment on possible voter fraud? I haven't seen/heard this - it would give them a chance to look all horrified at the question, and scream "of course not" and then the hacks could say, "see, we asked and they said no, so that's all we need to know... and see, we're not biased!".
Posted by: DJ at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (O3/K+)
They're trying to suppress any mention of it so that anyone bringing it up is instantly written off as a crazed conspiracy theorist.
Posted by: DJ at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (O3/K+)
They're trying to suppress any mention of it so that anyone bringing it up is instantly written off as a crazed conspiracy theorist.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (GArKj)
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I believe what they are claiming is happening is that Trump's vote margin was higher than the weighted voting function they were using, so they had hit the breaks or he would run away with it.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (L106N)
Possible that it was adaptive with hard limits - like a PID loop for instruments. Trumps margin of victory may have been outside the hard limits. Like you say - they would have to alter the limits at that point.
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (L106N)
Possible that it was adaptive with hard limits - like a PID loop for instruments. Trumps margin of victory may have been outside the hard limits. Like you say - they would have to alter the limits at that point.
Posted by: Always Be Lurking at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (cWLG9)
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BO on some show said that "they" will use Navy Seals to remove Trump from WH.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (lRrON)
He is already thinking of his 3rd term....
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (zr5Kq)
Navy seals are not going to follow unconstitutional orders.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (lRrON)
He is already thinking of his 3rd term....
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (zr5Kq)
Navy seals are not going to follow unconstitutional orders.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (946rW)
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You mention that you had a one of then sitting next
to you, or you were in close proximity to one when questions of fraud
came up; you were questioning the fraud allegations. You did not say
anything to that effect ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (zr5Kq)
There are several not far from me being used right now for the run-off.
to you, or you were in close proximity to one when questions of fraud
came up; you were questioning the fraud allegations. You did not say
anything to that effect ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (zr5Kq)
There are several not far from me being used right now for the run-off.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (CQ3Qb)
338
Notice it's not called Securion.
Posted by: ... at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (pnR7k)
339
305 Does anyone else find it odd that the chairman of Smartmatic, the former administrator of the TSA under Obama/Biden, is on the Biden transition team?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM
Does anyone else find it odd that the chairman of Biden's cancer foundation, Greg Simon, is a former executive of Pfizer?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM
Does anyone else find it odd that the chairman of Biden's cancer foundation, Greg Simon, is a former executive of Pfizer?
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (qe5CM)
340
Is anything related to this part of any actual legal action being taken or attempted so far? Don't think so.
Unless I misunderstand, the legal standard the WH is attempting to meet in MI and PA and WI and NV lawsuits is that demonstrated illegalities and irregularities render the initial results unreliable, in some cases violate state law, and also trip equal protection circuits. And for these reasons certain blocks of votes should be excluded, and/or certifications should be enjoined by the courts.
And these, and the GA recount/audit, are where the action is, apart from anything legislatures might do.
Mountains of suggestive indirect evidence won't change anything, I don't think. And won't be enough, by themselves, for legislatures to step up and be adults (I think).
Unless I misunderstand, the legal standard the WH is attempting to meet in MI and PA and WI and NV lawsuits is that demonstrated illegalities and irregularities render the initial results unreliable, in some cases violate state law, and also trip equal protection circuits. And for these reasons certain blocks of votes should be excluded, and/or certifications should be enjoined by the courts.
And these, and the GA recount/audit, are where the action is, apart from anything legislatures might do.
Mountains of suggestive indirect evidence won't change anything, I don't think. And won't be enough, by themselves, for legislatures to step up and be adults (I think).
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (OTzUX)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (BgghQ)
342
It sounds like something you'd call an obvious CIA front in a movie.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (ZGrMX)
It all makes sense when you realize there is an entire generation of people that thinks Harry Potter is classic and relevant.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (ZGrMX)
It all makes sense when you realize there is an entire generation of people that thinks Harry Potter is classic and relevant.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (+2xjH)
343
Off, stinky Big 8 sock
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (4I/2K)
344
I downloaded Dominion on my laptop so now I'm first on all new threads.
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Pfffffft. I downloaded Dominion software to my Apple Watch and I walked 270,000 steps last hour.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (+ZSW1)
I just did the same. And I just won an election in Moldavia !
Posted by: Duke Lowell
Pfffffft. I downloaded Dominion software to my Apple Watch and I walked 270,000 steps last hour.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (+ZSW1)
I just did the same. And I just won an election in Moldavia !
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (zr5Kq)
345
278 BO on some show said that "they" will use Navy Seals to remove Trump from WH.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
The same Navy Seals, who the Obama/Clinton Deep State sent out to a ambush where they were shot down by a stinger missile.... after the raid on Osama? Those Navy Seals?
Maybe the Fortune 500 corporations have their own Spec Ops forced comparable to ours. We shall see.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
The same Navy Seals, who the Obama/Clinton Deep State sent out to a ambush where they were shot down by a stinger missile.... after the raid on Osama? Those Navy Seals?
Maybe the Fortune 500 corporations have their own Spec Ops forced comparable to ours. We shall see.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (jvld5)
346
Lawyering up and clamming up is curious, yes.
I am more interested in this question:
Why hasn't Dominion already produced a complete set of its data on every single vote cast using its machines/software in this election, to both campaigns?
Do we really need a lawsuit and the discovery process to get that data?
What? THERE IS NO DATA!?!?!
Curiouser and curiouser.
I am more interested in this question:
Why hasn't Dominion already produced a complete set of its data on every single vote cast using its machines/software in this election, to both campaigns?
Do we really need a lawsuit and the discovery process to get that data?
What? THERE IS NO DATA!?!?!
Curiouser and curiouser.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (BM2fS)
347
Dominion Software, a subsidiary of Flybynight Industries.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (kTF2Z)
348
my *guess* is the algorithm was set to a certain threshold and they shut down the systems when it would be obvious that they would get caught, that the 3% or whatever votes added automatically to Biden, and decreased to Trump, either was not going to work, or it would have blown up the system with 100's of thousands of votes added in spikes, making it fiction, because there are just not that many registered voters or that many voters in the states or districts, or country for that matter!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (sfhL4)
Basically the machines were only supposed to steal a certain % of the vote. It turned out that the amount of votes Trump got was a lot more than was expected, so we get an election with unprecedented vote totals from both sides combining together to blow out the previous highest by some 20 million votes.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (Zm+LZ)
pretty much what I said, and remember, we are seeing 120% voting. Over 100% of the registered voters and so forth. Illegal ballots, yeah, probably some of that ballot stuffing, but I bet some are the forced votes within the algorithm, and that is how they get caught
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:14 PM (sfhL4)
Basically the machines were only supposed to steal a certain % of the vote. It turned out that the amount of votes Trump got was a lot more than was expected, so we get an election with unprecedented vote totals from both sides combining together to blow out the previous highest by some 20 million votes.
Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 20, 2020 12:19 PM (Zm+LZ)
pretty much what I said, and remember, we are seeing 120% voting. Over 100% of the registered voters and so forth. Illegal ballots, yeah, probably some of that ballot stuffing, but I bet some are the forced votes within the algorithm, and that is how they get caught
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (sfhL4)
349
I think Trump's been expecting this for years.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (oVJmc)
350
>>331 >The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Speaking of Mainway Toys, this is much more interesting when said with a Dan Ackroyd Chicago/Mainway accent.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Speaking of Mainway Toys, this is much more interesting when said with a Dan Ackroyd Chicago/Mainway accent.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (xK9An)
351
In Indiana, I was handed a ballot to put into an electronic machine that identified my selections, it then printed "my ballot" which I had to sign and take to 2 observers (one Dem, one GOP, no Libertarian) who watched me place my signed ballot into an envelope which they BOTH then had to countersign next to my signature and date, on the outside envelope.
I asked "what about voter anonymity? and was told they're treading a fine line between maintaining anonymity and creating a system where a voter can be contacted to verify his vote in the event of suspected fraud.
I then asked what about "mail in votes? are they treated like this?" to which both witnesses laughed and said "no, there can be no observers who witness someone voting from home by mail, they don't even have to present ID when requesting a ballot be mailed to them, but there's been so few of them it's not even an issue that could possibly change the vote totals."
I asked "what about voter anonymity? and was told they're treading a fine line between maintaining anonymity and creating a system where a voter can be contacted to verify his vote in the event of suspected fraud.
I then asked what about "mail in votes? are they treated like this?" to which both witnesses laughed and said "no, there can be no observers who witness someone voting from home by mail, they don't even have to present ID when requesting a ballot be mailed to them, but there's been so few of them it's not even an issue that could possibly change the vote totals."
Posted by: MrObvious at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (k+h+d)
352
That, plus Sidney saying contact us now if you want to avoid prosecution.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (bDqIh)
And Coomer on the ground in Detroit? Exactly why would he be involved directly at any level?
It looks like Ron will be testifying in a committee hearing any minute.
And, a lot of posts coming from @We_Have_Risen the past few minutes.
https://twitter.com/We_Have_Risen
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (bDqIh)
And Coomer on the ground in Detroit? Exactly why would he be involved directly at any level?
It looks like Ron will be testifying in a committee hearing any minute.
And, a lot of posts coming from @We_Have_Risen the past few minutes.
https://twitter.com/We_Have_Risen
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (8B6Ng)
353
I have a simple idea on paper trailing votes in the future (assuming wr have one)
paper ballot with 2 stubs
voter stub has unique id
audit stub has unique id and ballot number
ballot has ballot number
voter gets voter stub
audit stub goes into locked box
box held by independent 3rd party (National Guard?)
key given to a separate independent party
paper ballot with 2 stubs
voter stub has unique id
audit stub has unique id and ballot number
ballot has ballot number
voter gets voter stub
audit stub goes into locked box
box held by independent 3rd party (National Guard?)
key given to a separate independent party
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (nUhF0)
Posted by: Fed Reserve, a subsidiary of Dominion Corp at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (r+sAi)
355
They needed to goose a certain number of votes, but keep it believable. The voting machine jiggery does it in such a way that you have, say, 100 people vote, the real vote is 49/51, and it changes enough so that it's 52/48.
However, if the parameters you chose aren't enough to throw the result - if it was going to be 40/60, say - you either have to change them (which they did in some states, during the pause, via software updates), or cheat in another way, in this case, stuffing mail in ballots. But the number of ballots needed in some areas was outside the realm of realistically possible mail in votes.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (EEVQU)
I want someone to ask the comrades at Dominion why exactly there needs to BE an algorithm. You're just counting votes, not solving a crystal structure where you need to calculate Fourier maps.
However, if the parameters you chose aren't enough to throw the result - if it was going to be 40/60, say - you either have to change them (which they did in some states, during the pause, via software updates), or cheat in another way, in this case, stuffing mail in ballots. But the number of ballots needed in some areas was outside the realm of realistically possible mail in votes.
Posted by: there are only three star wars films at November 20, 2020 12:41 PM (EEVQU)
I want someone to ask the comrades at Dominion why exactly there needs to BE an algorithm. You're just counting votes, not solving a crystal structure where you need to calculate Fourier maps.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (GArKj)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (BenuG)
357
The natural gas pipeline biz accepts 0.5% [one-half of one percent] as the upper limit on lost and unaccounted for gas. And that was the allowance in the days of analog gas measuring devices and paper chart measurement integrators.
Posted by: Arthur Andersen and Co. at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (4I/2K)
I thought it was 5%....and that was "state of the art" accuracy?
Posted by: Arthur Andersen and Co. at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (4I/2K)
I thought it was 5%....and that was "state of the art" accuracy?
Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (AwYPR)
358
353 akso want the purple ink on finger
Posted by: vmom Trump Won! at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (nUhF0)
359
Would you prefer Vulnavia also?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (BenuG)
360
even better, the GOPe SoS said words to the effect of
"I believe the vote totals should be accurate"
i don't remember the exact wording, but i cough a laugh at i believe. not a definitive, the vote IS.
read into that what you will...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (8D42x)
That sounds like a ringing endorsement of their "recount".
"I believe the vote totals should be accurate"
i don't remember the exact wording, but i cough a laugh at i believe. not a definitive, the vote IS.
read into that what you will...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 20, 2020 12:38 PM (8D42x)
That sounds like a ringing endorsement of their "recount".
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (tk6Pb)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (sfhL4)
362
40
Thanks for the nood.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (+2xjH)
Hey! I nooded! And you guys fling poop for my troubles!
if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge poop
Thanks for the nood.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (+2xjH)
Hey! I nooded! And you guys fling poop for my troubles!
if you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge poop
Posted by: Anachronda at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (sGtp+)
363
Our area's morning show is unbearable. Vince Coglianese and his sidekick Mary Walter. Walter has the intelligence of a flea.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (xK9An)
Well since we're naming and shaming: Rich Zeoli and Dom Giordano
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM (xK9An)
Well since we're naming and shaming: Rich Zeoli and Dom Giordano
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (DJFLF)
364
There are several not far from me being used right now for the run-off.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (CQ3Qb)
-----------------------------------------------
If your observed pattern continues, later in the day you will be asking for evidence you ever claimed to have Dominion machines in your proximity.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (CQ3Qb)
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If your observed pattern continues, later in the day you will be asking for evidence you ever claimed to have Dominion machines in your proximity.
Posted by: DC at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (onMzM)
365
The system of selecting electors is left to the state legislatures.
That's the ultimate firewall.
If Democrats want to steal the vote in Philly, Detroit, etc, the GOP state houses can steal it back from them. That's their duty. They don't get to shrug and say 'oh well'
They need to grow a pair and do their jobs.
That's the ultimate firewall.
If Democrats want to steal the vote in Philly, Detroit, etc, the GOP state houses can steal it back from them. That's their duty. They don't get to shrug and say 'oh well'
They need to grow a pair and do their jobs.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 20, 2020 12:45 PM (ZR7kf)
366
One would think they would be eager to show how simple, reliable, consistent, transparent, and easily auditable their systems are.
Failure to do so would discredit their systems and the elections they were used in.... maybe THAT is the idea -
1. DISCREDIT THE ELECTION
2. BLAME TRUMP
3. ???
4. PROFIT
Failure to do so would discredit their systems and the elections they were used in.... maybe THAT is the idea -
1. DISCREDIT THE ELECTION
2. BLAME TRUMP
3. ???
4. PROFIT
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 20, 2020 12:45 PM (/Dgcm)
367
ominion had initially agreed to attend the hearing, before it "abruptly canceled,"
would have been nice to have them sequestered for "safety reasons"
or SS keeping an eye on them. We would know what happened then.
would have been nice to have them sequestered for "safety reasons"
or SS keeping an eye on them. We would know what happened then.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:45 PM (sfhL4)
368
What happened to white privilege?
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM
You're soaking in it.
- The Left
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:34 PM
You're soaking in it.
- The Left
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2020 12:45 PM (ejd/p)
369
BINO why are you engaging in these arguments FOR Dominion?
"Oh it gave me a receipt!"
And what fucking good is that precious receipt if nobody holds on to it in case ofa recount?
Use your head. You sound suspicious. Youbwill now be treated accordingly
"Oh it gave me a receipt!"
And what fucking good is that precious receipt if nobody holds on to it in case ofa recount?
Use your head. You sound suspicious. Youbwill now be treated accordingly
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (Pfv5J)
370
The FBI only investigates serious matters like a pull down rope on a garage door and a traffic accident in Texas. We do not investigate minor things like election fraud.
Posted by: Chris Wray at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (lRrON)
371
Would you prefer Vulnavia also?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (BenuG)
Yes. And Wallachia.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:44 PM (BenuG)
Yes. And Wallachia.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (zr5Kq)
372
>>I think Trump's been expecting this for years.
During the 2012 election he was tweeting that Romney needed to be careful because the voting machines were switching some of his votes to Obama.
During the 2012 election he was tweeting that Romney needed to be careful because the voting machines were switching some of his votes to Obama.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (ZLI7S)
373
Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
Well, we wanted to call it Islam, but that was taken.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
Well, we wanted to call it Islam, but that was taken.
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (oh+79)
374
182 Here's yer receipt, sucker, our magic lectronix will record what we want it to (biden) !!
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (Rturm)
The receipt has a code that can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended. I'm not sure how thoroughly that was implemented, the full electronic system was roadblocked by the corrupt who want to continue stuffing ballot boxes locally and the Dominion system prevents that. Currently the dominion system is only used for Early Voting until the project can be re-bid. They've been able to delay that for something like two years so we're still stuck with the 100% unverifiable voting system that many here seem to want to go back to.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
__________
How does that work without compromising the secrecy of your ballot? I particularly mean this: "The receipt has a code that can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended."
It would seem to be impossible to have both. But maybe I'm missing something.
Posted by: Banned at November 20, 2020 12:21 PM (Rturm)
The receipt has a code that can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended. I'm not sure how thoroughly that was implemented, the full electronic system was roadblocked by the corrupt who want to continue stuffing ballot boxes locally and the Dominion system prevents that. Currently the dominion system is only used for Early Voting until the project can be re-bid. They've been able to delay that for something like two years so we're still stuck with the 100% unverifiable voting system that many here seem to want to go back to.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
__________
How does that work without compromising the secrecy of your ballot? I particularly mean this: "The receipt has a code that can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended."
It would seem to be impossible to have both. But maybe I'm missing something.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (7X3UV)
375
nyt headline on Firefox home page: "Trump's attempt to overturn election is unparalleled in American history."
ummm...
ummm...
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (DJFLF)
376
Bee:
Butterball Releases Turkey With Biden-Harris Logo So You Can Just Say Your Thanksgiving Gathering Is A Political Rally
Butterball Releases Turkey With Biden-Harris Logo So You Can Just Say Your Thanksgiving Gathering Is A Political Rally
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (oVJmc)
378
You're soaking in it.
- The Left
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2020 12:45 PM (ejd/p)
THAT'S why my hands are so soft!
- The Left
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 20, 2020 12:45 PM (ejd/p)
THAT'S why my hands are so soft!
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (BJKQV)
379
319 Just remember sports fans, it all started with the curious call by FoxNews of Arizona for Biden.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl)
Nope, it was earlier. It all started when every network called Virginia with 0% reporting. It was the first state called.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl)
Nope, it was earlier. It all started when every network called Virginia with 0% reporting. It was the first state called.
Posted by: bat nationalist at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (jvld5)
Posted by: DJ at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (O3/K+)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (HaL55)
382
President Trump will remain Commander-in-Chief until (God forbid) some putative scenario where Biden would be sworn in as president on January 20. The Navy Seals would be under Trump's direct command until that moment. I presume therefore that Obama is talking about ordering the Seals to drag Trump out of the White House AFTER January 20. That would be a scene for the ages. In the hypothetical event that we fail to stop the steal, I'd actually like to see the scene of Trump being dragged from the White House.. A visual immortalization of the coup taking place.
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (Y2lPe)
383
I then asked what about "mail in votes? are they
treated like this?" to which both witnesses laughed and said "no, there
can be no observers who witness someone voting from home by mail, they
don't even have to present ID when requesting a ballot be mailed to
them, but there's been so few of them it's not even an issue that could
possibly change the vote totals."
Posted by: MrObvious at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (k+h+d)
Vote-by-mail (absentee) has always been the weak point in election integrity. That's why Democrats were so giddy to use Covid to create all the new rules to expand it so much. Electronic voting systems had really put a crimp in their traditional ballot-box stuffing and mail-in balloting circumvents most safeguards.
treated like this?" to which both witnesses laughed and said "no, there
can be no observers who witness someone voting from home by mail, they
don't even have to present ID when requesting a ballot be mailed to
them, but there's been so few of them it's not even an issue that could
possibly change the vote totals."
Posted by: MrObvious at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (k+h+d)
Vote-by-mail (absentee) has always been the weak point in election integrity. That's why Democrats were so giddy to use Covid to create all the new rules to expand it so much. Electronic voting systems had really put a crimp in their traditional ballot-box stuffing and mail-in balloting circumvents most safeguards.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (CQ3Qb)
384
Purple thumbs and hangings for treason at all levels, from CEOs to the schmucks hanging cardboard over the windows to prevent people from looking inside while they "counted" the votes.
It's the only way forward from here.
It's the only way forward from here.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (hsOar)
385
You want Vulnavia, you'll get Freedonia.
Posted by: Rufus T. Firefly at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (63Dwl)
386
Who cares about Groves beating up of Dominion. Does he have a pair to create the atmosphere with that about the fraudulent election in Penn and stop certification or send its own electors for Trump, or some such to neutralize Sundown Joe?
Posted by: DEEBEE at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (yFciv)
387
If Trump got 100 votes and Biden got 10. They would have to set the flip rate so high it would not be believable. They were having to fraudulently convert solid red districts to blue to give Biden the number of votes to win.
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo
THIS exactly.
If they hadn't stopped the counting and trucked in ballots, etc, we would have had an election night where Biden "won" some counties in rural Wisconsin by 20 votes where only 50 registered voters live, where they all know each other, and where they all know everyone voted for Trump.
It was about to be a disaster.
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo
THIS exactly.
If they hadn't stopped the counting and trucked in ballots, etc, we would have had an election night where Biden "won" some counties in rural Wisconsin by 20 votes where only 50 registered voters live, where they all know each other, and where they all know everyone voted for Trump.
It was about to be a disaster.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (ZR7kf)
388
Any computer can do anything under the hood out of view of the user while processing and communicating to a second party. Its an art. Its all but ensured today that any internet connection communities data the user never knows about. Why would voting systems be any different? Electronic voting can not be trusted ever.
Computers do exactly what they are programmed to do if they are programmed by someone or something you don't trust they Can't be trusted.
Computers do exactly what they are programmed to do if they are programmed by someone or something you don't trust they Can't be trusted.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (0OmEj)
389
377 I was thinking the Dominion angle was a dry hole.
Dominion has requested more lube.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (oVJmc)
Dominion never request and never uses lube. Fake news.
Dominion has requested more lube.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (oVJmc)
Dominion never request and never uses lube. Fake news.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (BJKQV)
390
GOP legislature has no moral choice but to vote immediately. There is no reason other than rigging elections for the software features to exist. They tried to be even-handed and allow Dominion to explain but Dominion said GFY.
Vote. Right this minute! When you have the argument I just stated at your immediate disposal.
Else, known quislings
Vote. Right this minute! When you have the argument I just stated at your immediate disposal.
Else, known quislings
Posted by: Gilded at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (wGA+o)
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>>I still love that name. If you don't know, "coomer" has a very specific Urban Dictionary meaning.
Heh, especially during 'no nut November'.
Clutch -- No, it wasn't Coomer in Detroit, it was Nick Ikonomakis.
Heh, especially during 'no nut November'.
Clutch -- No, it wasn't Coomer in Detroit, it was Nick Ikonomakis.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (bDqIh)
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If we had an FBI/CIA/NSA then they would be lawyering up from prison.
The thugs breaking laws at the voting locations (stopping the observers from observing, allowing fake votes, connecting voting machines up to the internet, etc.) ... they would have been marched out of the polling place at the first offense ... in 2018, or maybe in 2012?
Someone last thread said Sidney Powell on Beck said the good guys have the servers. (from Frankfurt, which conceivable have an evidence trail of vote shifting and more). ... imo that is the thing that changes everything .... maybe even allows us to see what the real results were?
Or a real count might be required to see real outcomes, because some say the machines don't even really read the votes ... they fractionally determine outcomes regardless of what ballots are shoved through. but lots of different rumors on those details ... my guess, they cheated in multiple ways ... old style Chicago dead people and more ... the counters deliberately miscounting, boxes of printed ballots showing up on the wrong paper, all with perfect circle marks for Joey Fingers ... etc.
Scytl only counts the votes (they say) ... and Stalin says it only matters who counts the votes. Or maybe CIA was watching from Scytl, and that is how they found the cheat, and we have the servers? Waiting for White Hats to arrest people and give us answers.
The thugs breaking laws at the voting locations (stopping the observers from observing, allowing fake votes, connecting voting machines up to the internet, etc.) ... they would have been marched out of the polling place at the first offense ... in 2018, or maybe in 2012?
Someone last thread said Sidney Powell on Beck said the good guys have the servers. (from Frankfurt, which conceivable have an evidence trail of vote shifting and more). ... imo that is the thing that changes everything .... maybe even allows us to see what the real results were?
Or a real count might be required to see real outcomes, because some say the machines don't even really read the votes ... they fractionally determine outcomes regardless of what ballots are shoved through. but lots of different rumors on those details ... my guess, they cheated in multiple ways ... old style Chicago dead people and more ... the counters deliberately miscounting, boxes of printed ballots showing up on the wrong paper, all with perfect circle marks for Joey Fingers ... etc.
Scytl only counts the votes (they say) ... and Stalin says it only matters who counts the votes. Or maybe CIA was watching from Scytl, and that is how they found the cheat, and we have the servers? Waiting for White Hats to arrest people and give us answers.
Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (Cus5s)
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I saw the Dominion logo posted upthread.
My friend who is an Illuminatist conspiracist always says that "they" love to rub their illegal world-dominating activities in our faces. I think their logo is a prime example of that theory.
My friend who is an Illuminatist conspiracist always says that "they" love to rub their illegal world-dominating activities in our faces. I think their logo is a prime example of that theory.
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (DJFLF)
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Did you guys see this re-tweet from Scott Adams? It is pretty convincing. You see a graph in Michigan of votes for Trump and Biden. All night it is 55% for this guy, 45% for the other guy, and vice versa, as the votes come in. Then, at 6am the day after election day, about 140,000 votes for Biden. Have a look if you have time:
https://tinyurl.com/y4824jvk
Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
https://tinyurl.com/y4824jvk
Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (OqsNP)
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The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't
win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da
Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM
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From my perusing, there has been one post of that vein there by David Bernstein. And yes they regularly do an "in the mail" thing with various books, including some authors I dislike. Let's not flip out about it quite yet.
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The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't
win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da
Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM
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From my perusing, there has been one post of that vein there by David Bernstein. And yes they regularly do an "in the mail" thing with various books, including some authors I dislike. Let's not flip out about it quite yet.
Posted by: King Arthur at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (SchQD)
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nyt headline on Firefox home page: "Trump's attempt to overturn election is unparalleled in American history."
ummm...
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (DJFLF)
All of the MFM is running with that overturning the election horse manure. It's one lie after the other from that scum.
ummm...
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (DJFLF)
All of the MFM is running with that overturning the election horse manure. It's one lie after the other from that scum.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (tk6Pb)
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The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't win; quit being conspiracy nutters."
Reynolds himself has a post above that making fun of the Democrats for saying the same line about conspiracy nutters. Apparently, like Ace, he doesn't read his own blog.
Reynolds himself has a post above that making fun of the Democrats for saying the same line about conspiracy nutters. Apparently, like Ace, he doesn't read his own blog.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (ZGrMX)
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The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
you know what it look like right?
It spits out QR codes that no one can descramble.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
you know what it look like right?
It spits out QR codes that no one can descramble.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (sfhL4)
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desock
Posted by: irright at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (SchQD)
400
Oh and Tucker can fuck off too. How he has the balls to go on his show and piss and moan about how HE REQUESTED EVIDENCE from team Trump and they told him to piss up a rope. Dude, Tucker... didnt you just provide the nation a clear example that ANY info given to FIX news will be stolen? Retard. I can sit here with calm resolve after yesterday's presss conference. I would be pissed if they DID give away what evidence they had...ESPECIALLY to FIX news
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (Pfv5J)
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nyt headline on Firefox home page: "Trump's attempt to overturn election is unparalleled in American history."
ummm...
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (DJFLF)
Bullshit Mathilda
ummm...
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (DJFLF)
Bullshit Mathilda
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ONvIw)
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Computers do exactly what they are programmed to do if they are programmed by someone or something you don't trust they Can't be trusted.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (0OmEj)
I am now telling the computer exactly what it can do with a lifetime supply of chocolate!
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (0OmEj)
I am now telling the computer exactly what it can do with a lifetime supply of chocolate!
Posted by: Computer guy on Willy Wonka at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (7TIB9)
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@331
Re: voting receipt.
Is useless if it is programmed to tell you what you want to hear while spitting out preprogrammed fraudulent tabulations to the clerks, sos, etc.
Its rigged from the get go or during a time they are hooked up to the internet and they start fucking with the results live.
And they are suppose to be secure without internet connections.
Their need to be punishments fitting treason and sedition.
Re: voting receipt.
Is useless if it is programmed to tell you what you want to hear while spitting out preprogrammed fraudulent tabulations to the clerks, sos, etc.
Its rigged from the get go or during a time they are hooked up to the internet and they start fucking with the results live.
And they are suppose to be secure without internet connections.
Their need to be punishments fitting treason and sedition.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (8qZo8)
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Clutch -- No, it wasn't Coomer in Detroit, it was Nick Ikonomakis.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (bDqIh)
Right you are.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (bDqIh)
Right you are.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (8B6Ng)
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From my perusing, there has been one post of that vein there by David Bernstein.
Bernstein seems to be there mostly to get ratioed. Every time he posts something it's hilariously wrong and he gets 500 comments telling him he sucks.
Bernstein seems to be there mostly to get ratioed. Every time he posts something it's hilariously wrong and he gets 500 comments telling him he sucks.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZGrMX)
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^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM
Shit, that in your face, isn't it? WTF??!
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (OssQ4)
It says it's satire in one of the first comments.
So, parody. But a damn good one.
Posted by: CPT. Charles at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM
Shit, that in your face, isn't it? WTF??!
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:36 PM (OssQ4)
It says it's satire in one of the first comments.
So, parody. But a damn good one.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (z79tQ)
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373 Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
Well, we wanted to call it Islam, but that was taken.
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (oh+79)
Rejected names:
1. Islam
2. Shining Path
3. Sturmabteilung
4. Cheka
5. ISIS
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
Well, we wanted to call it Islam, but that was taken.
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (oh+79)
Rejected names:
1. Islam
2. Shining Path
3. Sturmabteilung
4. Cheka
5. ISIS
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (GArKj)
408
Dominion has branched out into slot machine software.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (v0R5T)
409
>>Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
It's real. And the exact same thing happened in Wisconsin at 3:40 in the morning.
It's real. And the exact same thing happened in Wisconsin at 3:40 in the morning.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
410
.ESPECIALLY to FIX news
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (Pfv5J)
Tucker scuttles the Hunter Biden expose....bank on it
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (Pfv5J)
Tucker scuttles the Hunter Biden expose....bank on it
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ONvIw)
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341 >37? More people probably died of lightning strikes.
That also deserves a day of rodmemberance.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (BgghQ)
With the Paolo, every day is a rod member day
That also deserves a day of rodmemberance.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 20, 2020 12:42 PM (BgghQ)
With the Paolo, every day is a rod member day
Posted by: The Paolo at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (Izzlo)
412
"That would be a scene for the ages. In the
hypothetical event that we fail to stop the steal, I'd actually like to
see the scene of Trump being dragged from the White House.. A visual
immortalization of the coup taking place.
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (Y2lPe)"
Ain't gonna be no Navy Seals draggin' no GEOTUS outta no White House.
hypothetical event that we fail to stop the steal, I'd actually like to
see the scene of Trump being dragged from the White House.. A visual
immortalization of the coup taking place.
Posted by: zombie at November 20, 2020 12:47 PM (Y2lPe)"
Ain't gonna be no Navy Seals draggin' no GEOTUS outta no White House.
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (DJFLF)
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Dominion's backing out of the hearing is the thing that state legislatures can point to explaining why they refuse to certify their elections.
Trump should torch up Air Force One and have a day of rallies in all the swing states. Let the state legilatures know that everyone is looking (and will vote) at what they do in this historic moment.
Trump should torch up Air Force One and have a day of rallies in all the swing states. Let the state legilatures know that everyone is looking (and will vote) at what they do in this historic moment.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (/BlEx)
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I thought it was 5%....and that was "state of the art" accuracy?
Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (AwYPR)
No, .5% of volume or maybe btu, per month.. Any more than that starts costing serious money and gets attention and resources to uncover the problem and get it fixed ricky-tick.
Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 12:43 PM (AwYPR)
No, .5% of volume or maybe btu, per month.. Any more than that starts costing serious money and gets attention and resources to uncover the problem and get it fixed ricky-tick.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (4I/2K)
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233
The push to move to electronic voting systems began 20 years ago after the 2000 fiasco. It's been an uphill fight as local democrats everywhere have done everything possible to delay such roll-outs. Obama was referring to the places that had completed the switchover.
The reason elections infrastructure is neglected is because it's a system that's only used once every couple years and the costs to replace it statewide is not tenable for most politicians.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
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There is another problem with electronic voting systems. They are inscrutable to the majority of voters. That entails distrust. You may argue that mistrust is misguided, if you wish. And you may be right. But it is a fact that cannot be ignored. Doing so is classic Progressive thinking, that the people's wishes and motives are to be overridden because they are unwarrented.
The conservative view has always been that the character of a society matters, and politics must be conducted accordingly.
The push to move to electronic voting systems began 20 years ago after the 2000 fiasco. It's been an uphill fight as local democrats everywhere have done everything possible to delay such roll-outs. Obama was referring to the places that had completed the switchover.
The reason elections infrastructure is neglected is because it's a system that's only used once every couple years and the costs to replace it statewide is not tenable for most politicians.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
__________
There is another problem with electronic voting systems. They are inscrutable to the majority of voters. That entails distrust. You may argue that mistrust is misguided, if you wish. And you may be right. But it is a fact that cannot be ignored. Doing so is classic Progressive thinking, that the people's wishes and motives are to be overridden because they are unwarrented.
The conservative view has always been that the character of a society matters, and politics must be conducted accordingly.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (7X3UV)
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408 Dominion has branched out into slot machine software.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (v0R5T)
I think it was the other way around...
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (v0R5T)
I think it was the other way around...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (s2VJv)
417
How does that work without compromising the secrecy
of your ballot? I particularly mean this: "The receipt has a code that
can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended."
It would seem to be impossible to have both. But maybe I'm missing something.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (7X3UV)
No, you aren't missing anything. Anything printed on the receipt means nothing. That does not address how the machine tabulated the vote. That's why the bubble sheet voting is more secure. You can always go back to the paper and do a hand tabulation or run them through a different machine.
of your ballot? I particularly mean this: "The receipt has a code that
can be used to make sure your vote was counted the way you intended."
It would seem to be impossible to have both. But maybe I'm missing something.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (7X3UV)
No, you aren't missing anything. Anything printed on the receipt means nothing. That does not address how the machine tabulated the vote. That's why the bubble sheet voting is more secure. You can always go back to the paper and do a hand tabulation or run them through a different machine.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (J70i0)
418
Dominion's logo is fake.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
419
We talked about this a few months ago--really the old way was the best way.
Same day voting at a LOCAL presinct. Local, meaning that the volunteer in his garage knows most of the people in his residential area. Thumb scan to ID, and then you are given a ballot, and go into the booth to vote and place your anonymous ballot in the big box of anonymous ballots.
Check the people at the start, not the ballots afterward.
Same day voting at a LOCAL presinct. Local, meaning that the volunteer in his garage knows most of the people in his residential area. Thumb scan to ID, and then you are given a ballot, and go into the booth to vote and place your anonymous ballot in the big box of anonymous ballots.
Check the people at the start, not the ballots afterward.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (AwPyG)
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This is a battle for the world.
On one side are the statist/globalist/chinese/davos business model.
On the other side are a free people with government by their consent.
That's the bottom line.
On one side are the statist/globalist/chinese/davos business model.
On the other side are a free people with government by their consent.
That's the bottom line.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (CZm2G)
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Based on what Sidney Powell put forth yesterday, at the very least there should be a **legitimate** (ie...not like the GA 'recount') manual recount and audit done of every state that used the Dominion voting system, period.
Posted by: J.D. at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (9N0tV)
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They're two separate problems. Keep in mind that there are two allegations:
1) There was a lot of vote flipping and algorithmic manipulation by Dominion/Smartmatic.
2) The algorithmic manipulation wasn't adequate to pass the smell test or audit, so they "suspended counting" and made up the difference with fraudulent ballots, some of which were multiply-counted.
Recounts can catch the multi-count scenario in item 2 (maybe), but not the fraudulent ballots themselves or any manipulation Dominion may have done. These are separate problems.
The reason for the current litigation is to deal with the fraudulent ballots. A successful outcome there may necessitate a recount if those fraudulent ballots can be identified and removed, or it might invalidate the election if they cannot be identified but can be demonstrated to exist (the election is irredeemable), at least for those districts.
But the Dominion piece is an entirely different animal and is not the subject of current litigation (would take too long, involves national security, requires police powers, etc.), and recounts don't help if fraudulent ballots are being recounted and that is why this angle is the current target per yesterday's press conference.
Posted by: J.D. at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (9N0tV)
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They're two separate problems. Keep in mind that there are two allegations:
1) There was a lot of vote flipping and algorithmic manipulation by Dominion/Smartmatic.
2) The algorithmic manipulation wasn't adequate to pass the smell test or audit, so they "suspended counting" and made up the difference with fraudulent ballots, some of which were multiply-counted.
Recounts can catch the multi-count scenario in item 2 (maybe), but not the fraudulent ballots themselves or any manipulation Dominion may have done. These are separate problems.
The reason for the current litigation is to deal with the fraudulent ballots. A successful outcome there may necessitate a recount if those fraudulent ballots can be identified and removed, or it might invalidate the election if they cannot be identified but can be demonstrated to exist (the election is irredeemable), at least for those districts.
But the Dominion piece is an entirely different animal and is not the subject of current litigation (would take too long, involves national security, requires police powers, etc.), and recounts don't help if fraudulent ballots are being recounted and that is why this angle is the current target per yesterday's press conference.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (hYcqw)
422
223 Gonna need a giant false flag to create enough chaos to run out the clock . . .
schools closed - drat
what to do what to do????
Posted by: Soros at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (KRv/6)
Shooting up an empty school just doesn't cut it as a distraction.
schools closed - drat
what to do what to do????
Posted by: Soros at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (KRv/6)
Shooting up an empty school just doesn't cut it as a distraction.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (GArKj)
423
Oh...and if the graph IS real. I think if you look back in time, earlier in the night, you see some *trials* where someone pumped mostly Biden votes, into the system, but at lesser levels.
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (OqsNP)
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17 We stand by our equipment from behind our vast legal staff.
- Dominion
________________
It's not the machines that are the problem, it's the software.
Election commissioners keep putting out stupid statements saying "we have checked the voting machines and there is no evidence of fraud."
Well, duh. Of course there is no evidence of fraud in the machines. But there is plenty of evidence of fraud in the ludicrous numbers coming out of the software that is supposedly counting and tabulating the vote data from the machines. And the software was designed to make it easy to change vote numbers and leave no record of what you did in the logs.
- Dominion
________________
It's not the machines that are the problem, it's the software.
Election commissioners keep putting out stupid statements saying "we have checked the voting machines and there is no evidence of fraud."
Well, duh. Of course there is no evidence of fraud in the machines. But there is plenty of evidence of fraud in the ludicrous numbers coming out of the software that is supposedly counting and tabulating the vote data from the machines. And the software was designed to make it easy to change vote numbers and leave no record of what you did in the logs.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (k4dH2)
425
akso want the purple ink on finger
Posted by: vmom Trump Won!
I'm willing to sign my ballot with my thumbprint in ink.
Blood if they force it. And it won't be mine.
Posted by: vmom Trump Won!
I'm willing to sign my ballot with my thumbprint in ink.
Blood if they force it. And it won't be mine.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (+ZSW1)
426
Powell said there are Republicans who hired Dominion to steal elections for them too ...
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (aO8Gd)
427
Ok I'm asked by my friends what avenues need to be exhausted before the supremes get involved and why would they?
Posted by: Jaimo at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (/Kt3K)
428
369
BINO why are you engaging in these arguments FOR Dominion?
"Oh it gave me a receipt!"
And what fucking good is that precious receipt if nobody holds on to it in case ofa recount?
Use your head. You sound suspicious. Youbwill now be treated accordingly
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (Pfv5J)
I'm not arguing FOR Dominion but I do support electronic voting in general because it's the best defense against vote fraud and I have personal experience with the Dominion system and the processes that are in place to prevent the very things that people are claiming happened. What I'm really against is undermining election reform efforts based on QAnon rumors that have zero evidence. If there is no resolution to the claims being made against Dominion and Trump's lawyers just leave that question unanswered it's going to do long-term damage. Democrats are giddy that Republicans are now railing against electronic election systems.
BINO why are you engaging in these arguments FOR Dominion?
"Oh it gave me a receipt!"
And what fucking good is that precious receipt if nobody holds on to it in case ofa recount?
Use your head. You sound suspicious. Youbwill now be treated accordingly
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:46 PM (Pfv5J)
I'm not arguing FOR Dominion but I do support electronic voting in general because it's the best defense against vote fraud and I have personal experience with the Dominion system and the processes that are in place to prevent the very things that people are claiming happened. What I'm really against is undermining election reform efforts based on QAnon rumors that have zero evidence. If there is no resolution to the claims being made against Dominion and Trump's lawyers just leave that question unanswered it's going to do long-term damage. Democrats are giddy that Republicans are now railing against electronic election systems.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (CQ3Qb)
429
Kayleigh McEnany presser closing words - "I don't take calls from activists."
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (4tiP2)
430
In my wildest, most ridiculous dreams, this process reveals how Oregon's vote-by-mail system has been compromised for decades and resulted in Democrats winning handily over and over by cheating. Then people are lined up against walls and shot for treason.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (KZzsI)
431
Computers do exactly what they are programmed to do if they are programmed by someone or something you don't trust they Can't be trusted.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (0OmEj)
What I don't understand is how & why the votes were counted in Germany.
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
Why were servers in Germany required to count the votes? My laptop could compile the votes of the entire state of New York without even needing to turn on the fan. Heck, my phone probably could to.
Posted by: USNtakim deplorable still. at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (0OmEj)
What I don't understand is how & why the votes were counted in Germany.
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
Why were servers in Germany required to count the votes? My laptop could compile the votes of the entire state of New York without even needing to turn on the fan. Heck, my phone probably could to.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (BJKQV)
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https://tinyurl.com/y5ul92z3
^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
Nope, that's a meme. The blue part at the bottom was added.
^ THIS is the logo before they changed it.
Nope, that's a meme. The blue part at the bottom was added.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (ZGrMX)
433
There's two ways to deal with mystery: uncover it, or eliminate it.
Posted by: Andrew Ryan at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (rUgNH)
434
The trolls sure are interested in Trump flying around and holding rallies.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (8qZo8)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (BenuG)
437
It's not working for you. Did you enter the correct password ?
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (zr5Kq)
what is funny is someone took a screen shot of the manual and what the password was, etc.
It was just like you would think. Like "...admin" or something like that. An easily hackable login.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:29 PM (zr5Kq)
what is funny is someone took a screen shot of the manual and what the password was, etc.
It was just like you would think. Like "...admin" or something like that. An easily hackable login.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (sfhL4)
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What I'm really against is undermining election reform efforts based on QAnon rumors that have zero evidence.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (CQ3Qb)
QAnon is against pedophilia. Is there something you'd like to tell the authorities, Brian?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (CQ3Qb)
QAnon is against pedophilia. Is there something you'd like to tell the authorities, Brian?
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (ZGrMX)
439
>>Dominion has branched out into slot machine software.
I know you're kidding, but they really have expanded into direct mail engagement, including printing.
I'll find the link. . .
I know you're kidding, but they really have expanded into direct mail engagement, including printing.
I'll find the link. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (bDqIh)
440
Oh and Tucker can fuck off too. How he has the balls to go on his show and piss and moan about how HE REQUESTED EVIDENCE from team Trump and they told him to piss up a rope. Dude, Tucker... didnt you just provide the nation a clear example that ANY info given to FIX news will be stolen? Retard. I can sit here with calm resolve after yesterday's presss conference. I would be pissed if they DID give away what evidence they had...ESPECIALLY to FIX news
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (Pfv5J)
Tucker has made his bed and now he can shit in it.
He had a choice to decide which team he'd be playing with going forward. I'm sure the money is sweet, unimaginably so. And no doubt, these people think they'll be insulated from the living hell they're trying to create.
It's our job, no matter how it shakes out to make sure none of them are insulated. Ivory towers still burn.
Posted by: BlackToothGrin at November 20, 2020 12:49 PM (Pfv5J)
Tucker has made his bed and now he can shit in it.
He had a choice to decide which team he'd be playing with going forward. I'm sure the money is sweet, unimaginably so. And no doubt, these people think they'll be insulated from the living hell they're trying to create.
It's our job, no matter how it shakes out to make sure none of them are insulated. Ivory towers still burn.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (8B6Ng)
441
I installed Dominion on all my kitchen appliances. Thanksgiving dinner is already done, but what am I going to do with 147,000 roast turkeys?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (kTF2Z)
442
What did Ace write a few days ago?
When a near 50% of the country is ostracized, demonized, and silenced, there's gonna be violence.
But sure, let's go with that.
When a near 50% of the country is ostracized, demonized, and silenced, there's gonna be violence.
But sure, let's go with that.
Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (gAMkn)
443
t will give you a headache. Between being stone-age technology using OTS equipment and Windows 10, the entire thing is meant to be garbage.
That in fact screwed them in the end, since the shitty setup couldn't keep track of the Trump landslide. THAT is why they had to stop the count.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (8B6Ng)
And this description of the hardware is verified by the report from the Texas commission that evaluated the system and rejected it. Somebody here posted a link to that.
That in fact screwed them in the end, since the shitty setup couldn't keep track of the Trump landslide. THAT is why they had to stop the count.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:27 PM (8B6Ng)
And this description of the hardware is verified by the report from the Texas commission that evaluated the system and rejected it. Somebody here posted a link to that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (AOZij)
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (xK9An)
445
426 Powell said there are Republicans who hired Dominion to steal elections for them too ...
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (aO8Gd)
"NOW we have a story!" - MSM
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (aO8Gd)
"NOW we have a story!" - MSM
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (GArKj)
446
I've got $50 that says the win percentages in more than a few Biden-winning districts is exactly the same nationwide out to the hundredths.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (hsOar)
447
418
Dominion's logo is fake.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
Fake but accurate!
Dominion's logo is fake.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
Fake but accurate!
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (8qZo8)
449
Powell said there are Republicans who hired Dominion to steal elections for them too ...
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One thing you can be absolutely sure of is that it wasn't fucking me.
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One thing you can be absolutely sure of is that it wasn't fucking me.
Posted by: Martha McSally at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (sGnvY)
450
It's real. And the exact same thing happened in Wisconsin at 3:40 in the morning.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Trump responded to Justin Hart saying his legal team was going to use those graphs as part of their case. To the lawyers out there, how strong are those graphs as evidence of fraud?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Trump responded to Justin Hart saying his legal team was going to use those graphs as part of their case. To the lawyers out there, how strong are those graphs as evidence of fraud?
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (oh+79)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (s2VJv)
452
Grove blasted the company for "retreating into the darkness," rather than appearing at the hearing with "honesty and integrity."
Democracy dies in darkness
Democracy dies in darkness
Posted by: MJR at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (8uWE+)
453
Why hasn't any of the cable news companies put together an hour long video of how voting works?
Explain how the system is suppose to work, what safeguards are in place and how everything is suppose to happen right through to swearing in.
If people understood what goes on, they would be more easily convinced that there are a million ways to beat the system.
Explain how the system is suppose to work, what safeguards are in place and how everything is suppose to happen right through to swearing in.
If people understood what goes on, they would be more easily convinced that there are a million ways to beat the system.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (/BlEx)
454
394 Did you guys see this re-tweet from Scott Adams? It is pretty convincing. You see a graph in Michigan of votes for Trump and Biden. All night it is 55% for this guy, 45% for the other guy, and vice versa, as the votes come in. Then, at 6am the day after election day, about 140,000 votes for Biden. Have a look if you have time:
https://tinyurl.com/y4824jvk
Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (OqsN
Dr. Taylor Marshall showed similar charts, for MI & WI. All night, Trump was edging out Biden, both kept getting more votes, then in the early morning, in both states, Trump votes froze & Biden votes went up in a straight vertical line.
https://tinyurl.com/y4824jvk
Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (OqsN
Dr. Taylor Marshall showed similar charts, for MI & WI. All night, Trump was edging out Biden, both kept getting more votes, then in the early morning, in both states, Trump votes froze & Biden votes went up in a straight vertical line.
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (Izzlo)
455
>>What I'm really against is undermining election reform efforts based on QAnon rumors that have zero evidence.
When did QAnon enter this conversation?
I've only seen references to other sources.
When did QAnon enter this conversation?
I've only seen references to other sources.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (bDqIh)
456
Dang. Blubbering mess on Rush right now.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (4JM5Y)
457
Apple, Microsoft, Palantir, Google and other corporations all have private executive protection teams of ex SOF operators who are capable of both domestic and foreign extraction operations... Send them to escort Trump out...
Posted by: Friend New Deal Computer at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (vAIGZ)
458
Boy there's guy from Georgia on Rush just ripping the Republican party.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (s2VJv)
He has me in tears.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (s2VJv)
He has me in tears.
Posted by: Peyronie's Disease at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (Up/Jb)
459
Since the strongest weapon the opposition is delay, this is at least one of the reasons for the last-minute blackout.
They are throwing the burden of proof on Giuliani. Now, if we had a curious press, it would put pressure on Dominion to prove something. If pigs could fly...
They are throwing the burden of proof on Giuliani. Now, if we had a curious press, it would put pressure on Dominion to prove something. If pigs could fly...
Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (rOYkz)
460
456 Dang. Blubbering mess on Rush right now.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (4JM5Y)
He ain't wrong.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (4JM5Y)
He ain't wrong.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (s2VJv)
461
Same day voting at a LOCAL presinct. Local, meaning that the volunteer in his garage knows most of the people in his residential area. Thumb scan to ID, and then you are given a ballot, and go into the booth to vote and place your anonymous ballot in the big box of anonymous ballots.
Check the people at the start, not the ballots afterward.
Posted by: artemis
Anonymous balloting is dead.
That's what happens when you destroy ALL trust in the system.
Ballot signed in ink via thumbprint for verification.
That way, if you need to verify a ballot, you can tie it to a person.
Check the people at the start, not the ballots afterward.
Posted by: artemis
Anonymous balloting is dead.
That's what happens when you destroy ALL trust in the system.
Ballot signed in ink via thumbprint for verification.
That way, if you need to verify a ballot, you can tie it to a person.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (+ZSW1)
462
I blame myself for this entire post election clustercluck. Of all the scenarios, this is the one I didn't want to happen the most.
Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (2DOZq)
463
I dunno I just figure I'm gonna take the word of the man who took down the Mafia, the president of the USA, and others over random dude on the internet defending a clearly stolen election.
Call me kooky.
Call me kooky.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (KZzsI)
464
418 Dominion's logo is fake.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
+++++
So are their votes...
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
+++++
So are their votes...
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (ZR7kf)
465
Dominion is part of the globalist enterprise.
We know they rigged elections in Venezuela and other South American countries. They were thrown out of the Philippines.
Their role was to help overthrow nations without gunfire.
They are part of a revolution against free states/free people world wide.
We know they rigged elections in Venezuela and other South American countries. They were thrown out of the Philippines.
Their role was to help overthrow nations without gunfire.
They are part of a revolution against free states/free people world wide.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (CZm2G)
466
278 BO on some show said that "they" will use Navy Seals to remove Trump from WH.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
He is not the president of shit. He can't order SEALS to do anything. Would SEALS obey an order like that from their command? I would hope they would take their commander into custody for issuing an unlawful order.
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 12:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Prolly not the Seal Team 6 members he had murdered after they killed Bin Laden.
He is not the president of shit. He can't order SEALS to do anything. Would SEALS obey an order like that from their command? I would hope they would take their commander into custody for issuing an unlawful order.
Posted by: megthered at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (gtpmq)
467
Shooting up an empty school just doesn't cut it as a distraction.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (GArKj)
I larfed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (GArKj)
I larfed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (8B6Ng)
468
430 In my wildest, most ridiculous dreams, this process reveals how Oregon's vote-by-mail system has been compromised for decades and resulted in Democrats winning handily over and over by cheating. Then people are lined up against walls and shot for treason.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (KZzsI)
Oh, yeah. WA too. We just relected all of the lefties that push for higher taxes while at the same time rejecting three attempts to raise taxes. Something doesn't add up.
Are all of these places with corrupt voting systems so corrupt because they're run by Democrats or is it the other way around?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (KZzsI)
Oh, yeah. WA too. We just relected all of the lefties that push for higher taxes while at the same time rejecting three attempts to raise taxes. Something doesn't add up.
Are all of these places with corrupt voting systems so corrupt because they're run by Democrats or is it the other way around?
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (BJKQV)
469
@ 451
Given it's Georgia, I'm pretty surprised that it hasn't gotten sporty over there.
Obvious treason going on.
Given it's Georgia, I'm pretty surprised that it hasn't gotten sporty over there.
Obvious treason going on.
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (AwPyG)
470
Not following the details of this side of it, but in fact wasn't the very first incident/tip-off a situation in Antrim County MI wherein the local elections official personally knew the results couldn't be right, and upon checking the results (not sure how you do that) found not only was he right, but that the system had switched 6k votes from Trump to the vegetable?
If that kind of thing happened in a few MI counties (bigger ones), the "margin" is accounted for - and the entire election, for all posts was rendered into garbage.
If that kind of thing happened in a few MI counties (bigger ones), the "margin" is accounted for - and the entire election, for all posts was rendered into garbage.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (OTzUX)
471
>>>>* insert Sam Kinnison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (4I/2K)
Post of the day?
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (4I/2K)
Post of the day?
Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (q177U)
472
What did Ace write a few days ago?
When a near 50% of the country is ostracized, demonized, and silenced, there's gonna be violence.
But sure, let's go with that.
Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (gAMkn)
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Allow the fraud to exist and it damages the republic.
Hang people for treason involved in the fraudulent election and it damages the republic.
And yet only one is the good choice for the health of the republic.
When a near 50% of the country is ostracized, demonized, and silenced, there's gonna be violence.
But sure, let's go with that.
Posted by: MJ at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (gAMkn)
--
Allow the fraud to exist and it damages the republic.
Hang people for treason involved in the fraudulent election and it damages the republic.
And yet only one is the good choice for the health of the republic.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (hsOar)
473
Grove blasted the company for "retreating into the darkness," rather than appearing at the hearing with "honesty and integrity."
Democracy dies in darkness
Posted by: MJR at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (8uWE+)
It also can die under a 10,000 candlepower construction lamp, if the people watching the murder do nothing about it.
Democracy dies in darkness
Posted by: MJR at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (8uWE+)
It also can die under a 10,000 candlepower construction lamp, if the people watching the murder do nothing about it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (ie9IP)
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (OssQ4)
475
>>Send them to escort Trump out...
Posted by: Friend New Deal Computer at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (vAIGZ)
He's not going to be escorted out. He's going to be entombed, with servants, treasure, and a ship built of reeds to convey him to the Western Lands.
Posted by: Friend New Deal Computer at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (vAIGZ)
He's not going to be escorted out. He's going to be entombed, with servants, treasure, and a ship built of reeds to convey him to the Western Lands.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (xK9An)
476
Since the strongest weapon the opposition is delay, this is at least one of the reasons for the last-minute blackout.
Correct. Look at how they made the Hunter Biden story vanish. Remember that? Biggest scandal in electoral history? Proof dad was taking bribes? Horrendous sexual history?
Gone.
Correct. Look at how they made the Hunter Biden story vanish. Remember that? Biggest scandal in electoral history? Proof dad was taking bribes? Horrendous sexual history?
Gone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)
477
What I don't understand is how & why the votes were counted in Germany.
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
Why were servers in Germany required to count the votes? My laptop could compile the votes of the entire state of New York without even needing to turn on the fan. Heck, my phone probably could to.
Posted by: 29Victor
________________
Or the explanations for the counting to favor one candidate over another as some form of computational compression. So Biden getting thousands of extra votes (every time it glitches) well that's just a normal way for computers to compile data to save processing power.
A $500 PC has the computing power to count these votes and tabulate them.
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
Why were servers in Germany required to count the votes? My laptop could compile the votes of the entire state of New York without even needing to turn on the fan. Heck, my phone probably could to.
Posted by: 29Victor
________________
Or the explanations for the counting to favor one candidate over another as some form of computational compression. So Biden getting thousands of extra votes (every time it glitches) well that's just a normal way for computers to compile data to save processing power.
A $500 PC has the computing power to count these votes and tabulate them.
Posted by: Blago at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (gkdnV)
Posted by: Dworkin Barimen - anarcho-tyranny? you're soaking in it! at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (L106N)
479
BigTech and BigGov both know how we vote ... they know what we buy, they know what shows we watch ... if only from a handful of our online activities. But since they watch and listen to everything, my concern about "them" knowing how people vote is very low.
What could easily be done is have Bitcoin style cryptography invisibly put on every ballot ... only those with high tech and codes could see the names. A hard check could be done, but copying and making fakes would be nearly impossible.
All the tech efforts to secure the vote were blocked, except the tech used to secure the cheat. THAT is where all the effort was. "We Caught Them" (I hope, tick tock)
What could easily be done is have Bitcoin style cryptography invisibly put on every ballot ... only those with high tech and codes could see the names. A hard check could be done, but copying and making fakes would be nearly impossible.
All the tech efforts to secure the vote were blocked, except the tech used to secure the cheat. THAT is where all the effort was. "We Caught Them" (I hope, tick tock)
Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (Cus5s)
480
The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
awful
Are they afraid amazon will cut them off?
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
awful
Are they afraid amazon will cut them off?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (sfhL4)
481
Imagine being the bad guys at Dominion, where two weeks ago nobody had ever heard of you
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (AwPyG)
482
And yet only one is the good choice for the health of the republic.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (hsOar)
It's the difference between a knife wound to the chest and open heart surgery.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (hsOar)
It's the difference between a knife wound to the chest and open heart surgery.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (ie9IP)
483
451
Boy there's guy from Georgia on Rush just ripping the Republican party.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (s2VJv)
It's dead, Jim.
Boy there's guy from Georgia on Rush just ripping the Republican party.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (s2VJv)
It's dead, Jim.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (D3cJf)
484
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (9gDA7)
485
What I don't understand is how why the votes were counted in Germany.
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
Why were servers in Germany required to count the votes? My laptop
could compile the votes of the entire state of New York without even
needing to turn on the fan. Heck, my phone probably could to.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (BJKQV)
Votes weren't counted in Germany, not by the Dominion system anyway. Georgia had a contract with Scytl (who apparently is based overseas) to produce presentation graphs for their reporting website with the numbers GA provided them.
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
Why were servers in Germany required to count the votes? My laptop
could compile the votes of the entire state of New York without even
needing to turn on the fan. Heck, my phone probably could to.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 12:52 PM (BJKQV)
Votes weren't counted in Germany, not by the Dominion system anyway. Georgia had a contract with Scytl (who apparently is based overseas) to produce presentation graphs for their reporting website with the numbers GA provided them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (CQ3Qb)
486
418 Dominion's logo is fake.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
Appropriate.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (MMLyn)
Appropriate.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (GArKj)
487
Powell said there are Republicans who hired Dominion to steal elections for them too ...
Posted by: RoyalOil
Burn them at the stake too.
Posted by: RoyalOil
Burn them at the stake too.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (+ZSW1)
488
Dominion has branched out into slot machine software.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (v0R5T)
++++++++++++
I doubt it will be successful if its derived in any way from their election software. Casinos and gaming commissions are *very* interested in how that stuff actually works because errors can be catastrophically costly - either because the casino loses too much money on gaming or because they get sued and fined into oblivion for being dishonest with their customers.
Casinos and gaming commissions certify virtually no systems that come through their doors. It is an absolutely brutal process to get your stuff onto a casino gaming floor.
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (v0R5T)
++++++++++++
I doubt it will be successful if its derived in any way from their election software. Casinos and gaming commissions are *very* interested in how that stuff actually works because errors can be catastrophically costly - either because the casino loses too much money on gaming or because they get sued and fined into oblivion for being dishonest with their customers.
Casinos and gaming commissions certify virtually no systems that come through their doors. It is an absolutely brutal process to get your stuff onto a casino gaming floor.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (hYcqw)
489
Hang people for treason involved in the fraudulent election and it damages the republic.
"Let justice be done though the heavens fall."
"Let justice be done though the heavens fall."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (KZzsI)
490
The guy on Rush was from Virginia....we have a lot to cry about these days.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (RizLv)
491
473 Grove blasted the company for "retreating into the darkness," rather than appearing at the hearing with "honesty and integrity."
....
Posted by: MJR at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (8uWE+)
Ooh, that's good. I hope it makes it into the letter.
....
Posted by: MJR at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (8uWE+)
Ooh, that's good. I hope it makes it into the letter.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (ZfRYq)
492
We should all just agree the Trump legal team can't do anything and Biden won fair and square and they're all just sore losers.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (9gDA7)
493
I've been assured that 110% of The Experts agree that Trump is a dumb head fascist, and as of 11/2, Biden was irrefutably determined the be the winner of Democracy.
Posted by: Simple Stevo at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (/zfsb)
494
Correct. Look at how they made the Hunter Biden story vanish. Remember that? Biggest scandal in electoral history? Proof dad was taking bribes? Horrendous sexual history?
Gone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)
And Tucker thought it was wrong to beat up on a recovering crackhead...then he disappeared the evidence. LOL
Gone.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 12:56 PM (KZzsI)
And Tucker thought it was wrong to beat up on a recovering crackhead...then he disappeared the evidence. LOL
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (ONvIw)
495
Is there any law against programming a computer to make sure your people win when it counts votes?
That might be exactly the loophole these jackwads are exploiting.
That might be exactly the loophole these jackwads are exploiting.
Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (oVJmc)
497
Oh, yeah. WA too. We just relected all of the lefties that push for higher taxes while at the same time rejecting three attempts to raise taxes. Something doesn't add up.
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(waves from NC where Trump won and Tillis won, but Shutdown Cooper, (D)estroyer of the economy, somehow kept his seat)
I'm betting there are a LOT of people who don't want the votes looked at too closely.
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(waves from NC where Trump won and Tillis won, but Shutdown Cooper, (D)estroyer of the economy, somehow kept his seat)
I'm betting there are a LOT of people who don't want the votes looked at too closely.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (hsOar)
498
Casinos and gaming commissions certify virtually no systems that come through their doors. It is an absolutely brutal process to get your stuff onto a casino gaming floor.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (hYcqw)
That's because they want them to be honest.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (hYcqw)
That's because they want them to be honest.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (ZfRYq)
499
I installed Dominion on all my kitchen appliances. Thanksgiving dinner is already done, but what am I going to do with 147,000 roast turkeys?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (kTF2Z)
.......
That's really sad since you are allowed only 5 guests for dinner.
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (kTF2Z)
.......
That's really sad since you are allowed only 5 guests for dinner.
Posted by: your betters at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (v0R5T)
500
The guy on Rush was from Virginia....we have a lot to cry about these days.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (RizLv)
Isn't that the truth, I'm sure many in Georgia are feeling the same way too.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (RizLv)
Isn't that the truth, I'm sure many in Georgia are feeling the same way too.
Posted by: Peyronie's Disease at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (Up/Jb)
501
@426 ... Kemp in Goergia, maybe? Would explain a lot.
Posted by: sunny-dee at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (Z2HD7)
502
>>Every time he posts something it's hilariously wrong and he gets 500 comments telling him he sucks.
So, the guy is basically Instapundit's Brian in New Orleans.
So, the guy is basically Instapundit's Brian in New Orleans.
Posted by: fly at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (nQHrn)
503
When did QAnon enter this conversation?
I've only seen references to other sources.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (bDqIh)
The entire story about a server being seized in Germany was started by QAnon enthusiasts. Same with the watermarked ballots on the blockchain. No evidence exists.
I've only seen references to other sources.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (bDqIh)
The entire story about a server being seized in Germany was started by QAnon enthusiasts. Same with the watermarked ballots on the blockchain. No evidence exists.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Dana Perino at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (a8b7P)
505
The reason elections infrastructure is neglected is because it's a system that's only used once every couple years and the costs to replace it statewide is not tenable for most politicians.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
Manually counted paper ballots don't offer enough opportunity for graft and kickbacks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:30 PM (CQ3Qb)
Manually counted paper ballots don't offer enough opportunity for graft and kickbacks.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (AOZij)
506
Who could have imagined GA's top GOP dogs were quislings? With friends like these...
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (DJFLF)
507
456 Dang. Blubbering mess on Rush right now.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (4JM5Y))
I missed it, but whatever he ripped them on, this x1000.
Fuckwads all. What's most depressing is our fellow Americans thinking this is still white hats vs black hats. This is fucking pro wrestling kayfabe, with one side playing heel, and one side playing the goody two-shoes. And not very well.
Posted by: President-elect Emmie at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (4JM5Y))
I missed it, but whatever he ripped them on, this x1000.
Fuckwads all. What's most depressing is our fellow Americans thinking this is still white hats vs black hats. This is fucking pro wrestling kayfabe, with one side playing heel, and one side playing the goody two-shoes. And not very well.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (8B6Ng)
508
How does hanging people for treason damage the Republic? I prefer more, faster.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (4NtsG)
509
I installed Dominion software in my car. It now tells me my gas tank is 120% full.
Posted by: Inpector Kemp at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (EwPKb)
510
If the media tells me these voting machines dumped at the side of the road are not related to 2020, I must believe them.
https://tinyurl.com/y4w7kg9x
https://tinyurl.com/y4w7kg9x
Posted by: DJ at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (O3/K+)
511
That's because they want them to be honest.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (ZfRYq)
+++++++++++++
That's right. I would trust a casino operator over an election official any day of the week. One has a vested interest in being honest, the other has a vested interest in being dishonest.
Posted by: blaster at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (ZfRYq)
+++++++++++++
That's right. I would trust a casino operator over an election official any day of the week. One has a vested interest in being honest, the other has a vested interest in being dishonest.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (hYcqw)
512
444
Dominion rejected names:
Scamballot
NewMath Voting Systems
Magicount
UnChad
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (xK9An)
CommonCoreVoting
Dominion rejected names:
Scamballot
NewMath Voting Systems
Magicount
UnChad
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (xK9An)
CommonCoreVoting
Posted by: jim at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (ynpvh)
513
"The guy on Rush was from Virginia....we have a lot to cry about these days. "
You've never been to NY, have you.
You've never been to NY, have you.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (a8b7P)
514
Just remember sports fans, it all started with the curious call by FoxNews of Arizona for Biden.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl)
Looking back at this. They think we are stupid.
I suspect they said "well, if we can get the Fox viewers to submit right away then we've got this."
They were wrong. They lost their audience instead.
They played us. And they lost.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl)
Looking back at this. They think we are stupid.
I suspect they said "well, if we can get the Fox viewers to submit right away then we've got this."
They were wrong. They lost their audience instead.
They played us. And they lost.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (sfhL4)
515
>>>But the Dominion piece is an entirely different animal and is not the subject of current litigation (would take too long, involves national security, requires police powers, etc.), and recounts don't help if fraudulent ballots are being recounted and that is why this angle is the current target per yesterday's press conference.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (hYcqw)
------------------------------
Reporter asked Powell, 'why isn't FBI involved?', she received a response she wasn't prepared for. - Yes, I'd like to know where the FBI is, and then a list of FBI - MIA.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (hYcqw)
------------------------------
Reporter asked Powell, 'why isn't FBI involved?', she received a response she wasn't prepared for. - Yes, I'd like to know where the FBI is, and then a list of FBI - MIA.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (CZm2G)
516
He is not the president of shit. He can't order SEALS to do anything. Would SEALS obey an order like that from their command? I would hope they would take their commander into custody for issuing an unlawful order.
Posted by: megthered at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (gtpmq)
don't yell at me !
this is what they think they can do...
Posted by: megthered at November 20, 2020 12:55 PM (gtpmq)
don't yell at me !
this is what they think they can do...Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (zr5Kq)
517
The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
--
I sensed that coming from Instapundit 2 weeks ago. The site is one of the 3 I frequent, with AOS being visited countless times a day, the others a few. I've found myself skipping Insty and not even wanting to click on it for a cursory glance for over a week now. Drudge started affecting me the same way, and *checks calendar* I haven't been back to it in a few years now.
--
I sensed that coming from Instapundit 2 weeks ago. The site is one of the 3 I frequent, with AOS being visited countless times a day, the others a few. I've found myself skipping Insty and not even wanting to click on it for a cursory glance for over a week now. Drudge started affecting me the same way, and *checks calendar* I haven't been back to it in a few years now.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (O+I8R)
518
Were the machines connected to the Internet? Any system connected to the Internet is hackable.
-
The 8chan (or whatever) tech guy posted some stuff on that the other day. The voting machine setup instructions said, roughly:
"Connect to router. Log in to internet. Tech support will be available in the Slack forums"
-
The 8chan (or whatever) tech guy posted some stuff on that the other day. The voting machine setup instructions said, roughly:
"Connect to router. Log in to internet. Tech support will be available in the Slack forums"
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (hsOar)
519
I missed it, but whatever he ripped them on, this x1000.
He was feeling like a lot of us here. Disillusioned, backstabbed. Just wants his country back. He was crying, and that I can understand too.
He was feeling like a lot of us here. Disillusioned, backstabbed. Just wants his country back. He was crying, and that I can understand too.
Posted by: Peyronie's Disease at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (Up/Jb)
520
Dominion rejected names:
Scamballot
NewMath Voting Systems
Magicount
UnChad
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (xK9An)
........
CrapShoot
Scamballot
NewMath Voting Systems
Magicount
UnChad
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (xK9An)
........
CrapShoot
Posted by: wth at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (v0R5T)
521
The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
awful
Are they afraid amazon will cut them off?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (sfhL4)
That's a bit of mis-characterization..imo.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
awful
Are they afraid amazon will cut them off?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (sfhL4)
That's a bit of mis-characterization..imo.
Posted by: BignJames at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (AwYPR)
522
>>When did QAnon enter this conversation?
I've only seen references to other sources.
I don't know anything about Q. Went to the site a couple times but couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.
But I wouldn't dismiss it as a source either. Ron Watkins, aka CodeMonkeyZ, was the administrator of 8chan/8kun for years and that was the home of Q. Watkins claims he has been in contact with a lot of people in DC giving his opinions on how the Dominion systems were corrupted.
I've only seen references to other sources.
I don't know anything about Q. Went to the site a couple times but couldn't figure out what the hell was going on.
But I wouldn't dismiss it as a source either. Ron Watkins, aka CodeMonkeyZ, was the administrator of 8chan/8kun for years and that was the home of Q. Watkins claims he has been in contact with a lot of people in DC giving his opinions on how the Dominion systems were corrupted.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)
523
Off stupid crooked dick sock
Posted by: Peyronie's Disease at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (Up/Jb)
524
The entire story about a server being seized in Germany was started by QAnon enthusiasts. Same with the watermarked ballots on the blockchain. No evidence exists.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
You get worse and worse. Gohmert and Powell are not Qanon. Shoo
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
You get worse and worse. Gohmert and Powell are not Qanon. Shoo
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ONvIw)
525
Can Dominion work on my 401k?
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (a8b7P)
526
Dominion is the tech co for the local Keno parlor. Every card is a winner!
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (4I/2K)
527
How does hanging people for treason damage the Republic?
objectively it does not, but effectively since about 30% of the country refuses the very possibility that any cheating could have possibly been done and reject all evidence and proof to the contrary as conspiracy mongering Qanon crazies, it would cause enormous societal damage as they go berserk.
But a republic without justice or faith in the electoral system is a republic which is rightly doomed in any case.
objectively it does not, but effectively since about 30% of the country refuses the very possibility that any cheating could have possibly been done and reject all evidence and proof to the contrary as conspiracy mongering Qanon crazies, it would cause enormous societal damage as they go berserk.
But a republic without justice or faith in the electoral system is a republic which is rightly doomed in any case.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (KZzsI)
528
sigh
Posted by: spypeach at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (Up/Jb)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (BenuG)
530
Reporter asked Powell, 'why isn't FBI involved?', she received a response she wasn't prepared for. - Yes, I'd like to know where the FBI is, and then a list of FBI - MIA.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (CZm2G)
+++++++++++
Yeah, Giuliani's tirade about the FBI at that presser was ... impassioned.
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 01:00 PM (CZm2G)
+++++++++++
Yeah, Giuliani's tirade about the FBI at that presser was ... impassioned.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (hYcqw)
531
The Dominion logo appears to be a fake.
The linked logo is explicitly tagged as a "meme". Which it is, it's a Photoshopped alteration of the real logo (honestly, you could've done it in MS Paint).
Fox Mulders running around claiming it's real are exactly why the media keeps fact-checking the Babylon Bee.
The linked logo is explicitly tagged as a "meme". Which it is, it's a Photoshopped alteration of the real logo (honestly, you could've done it in MS Paint).
Fox Mulders running around claiming it's real are exactly why the media keeps fact-checking the Babylon Bee.
Posted by: Ian S. at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (CZm2G)
533
"The guy on Rush was from Virginia....we have a lot to cry about these days. "
You've never been to NY, have you.
Posted by: Marcus T
I can imagine Upstate NY is hellish place to live in, as far as representation goes.
You've never been to NY, have you.
Posted by: Marcus T
I can imagine Upstate NY is hellish place to live in, as far as representation goes.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (RizLv)
534
Has anyone seen the CIA and Dominion in the same room at the same time?
Posted by: Bunkerintheburbs at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (DbbiL)
535
i would advise all these fucksticks to roll while they can. if you miss the boat, it's reckoning time.
Posted by: x at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (0tE/i)
536
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo
This is why we are seeing 90%-120+% voting all over the country. It is unprecedented, and it is fraud.
The numbers were crossing the rubicon. So blackout!
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo
This is why we are seeing 90%-120+% voting all over the country. It is unprecedented, and it is fraud.
The numbers were crossing the rubicon. So blackout!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (sfhL4)
537
Driven into abject poverty, now that works
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (BenuG)
Then hanged
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (BenuG)
Then hanged
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (ONvIw)
538
Completely beside the point.
>>The same people who could kill Kennedys and black civil rights leaders can rig your election.
No. Your point was tht the Kennedys were unversally adored.
My point is that there was a long line of people willing to pay to see them shot.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (p9rIG)
Which again, is completely beside the point.
You can either acknowledge what I'm saying, or you can willfully ignore the main point, and can stick to your narrow point of how much you hate the Kennedys.
So in case you think I missed it, let me acknowledge your point. You hate the Kennedys.
>>The same people who could kill Kennedys and black civil rights leaders can rig your election.
No. Your point was tht the Kennedys were unversally adored.
My point is that there was a long line of people willing to pay to see them shot.
Posted by: garrett at November 20, 2020 12:15 PM (p9rIG)
Which again, is completely beside the point.
You can either acknowledge what I'm saying, or you can willfully ignore the main point, and can stick to your narrow point of how much you hate the Kennedys.
So in case you think I missed it, let me acknowledge your point. You hate the Kennedys.
Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (hku12)
539
Just to be clear, "Brian" is a fucking troll.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (a8b7P)
540
But I wouldn't dismiss it as a source either. Ron
Watkins, aka CodeMonkeyZ, was the administrator of 8chan/8kun for years
and that was the home of Q. Watkins claims he has been in contact with a
lot of people in DC giving his opinions on how the Dominion systems
were corrupted.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)
Watkins accuses his own father of posting as Q: https://tinyurl.com/y66ds3r5
That's CodemonkeyZ.
Watkins, aka CodeMonkeyZ, was the administrator of 8chan/8kun for years
and that was the home of Q. Watkins claims he has been in contact with a
lot of people in DC giving his opinions on how the Dominion systems
were corrupted.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ZLI7S)
Watkins accuses his own father of posting as Q: https://tinyurl.com/y66ds3r5
That's CodemonkeyZ.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (CQ3Qb)
541
The Dominion logo appears to be a fake.
Who knows, any more.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist
Dominion employees testifying:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dvcmjj
The Dominion logo appears to be a fake.
Who knows, any more.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist
Dominion employees testifying:
https://tinyurl.com/y4dvcmjj
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (63Dwl)
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (Zmnko)
543
Re: lawyer participation
1. Given the number of affidavits gathered and lawsuits drafted and filed in multiple states, I think there is a shit ton of lawyers working for Trump. The speed of the response is very, very good. The management of this task would be challenging.
2. Ever got death threats or had your tires slashed or have some idiot tell you where your kids go to school? It's why Tom was out as consigliere in Godfather. Sometimes you need a wartime consigliere. I actually wouldn't want a divorce lawyer on the team. I would want the divorce lawyer's investigator.
3. I also think most lawyers respect the law and legal process and perhaps naively think others think like them. They cannot and ultimately don't want to acknowledge the depth of corruption.
4. Applying No. 3 to Powell. I think that Powell's eyes were opened by the Enron prosecutions and reopened in the Flynn prosecution She did not have to overcome this "officer of the court" b.s.. She was already a non-believer in the system as eroded and doesn't blind herself to the reality of what's in the punch bowl. Let's her be a warrior.
1. Given the number of affidavits gathered and lawsuits drafted and filed in multiple states, I think there is a shit ton of lawyers working for Trump. The speed of the response is very, very good. The management of this task would be challenging.
2. Ever got death threats or had your tires slashed or have some idiot tell you where your kids go to school? It's why Tom was out as consigliere in Godfather. Sometimes you need a wartime consigliere. I actually wouldn't want a divorce lawyer on the team. I would want the divorce lawyer's investigator.
3. I also think most lawyers respect the law and legal process and perhaps naively think others think like them. They cannot and ultimately don't want to acknowledge the depth of corruption.
4. Applying No. 3 to Powell. I think that Powell's eyes were opened by the Enron prosecutions and reopened in the Flynn prosecution She did not have to overcome this "officer of the court" b.s.. She was already a non-believer in the system as eroded and doesn't blind herself to the reality of what's in the punch bowl. Let's her be a warrior.
Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (hKi6n)
544
The entire story about a server being seized in Germany was started by QAnon enthusiasts. Same with the watermarked ballots on the blockchain. No evidence exists.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
Wrong again, champ. Louis Gohmert made it public.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
Wrong again, champ. Louis Gohmert made it public.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (sfhL4)
546
450 It's real. And the exact same thing happened in Wisconsin at 3:40 in the morning.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Trump responded to Justin Hart saying his legal team was going to use those graphs as part of their case. To the lawyers out there, how strong are those graphs as evidence of fraud?
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (oh+79)
------
Just recall NYT had Trump with a 95% chance of winning GA late election night.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Trump responded to Justin Hart saying his legal team was going to use those graphs as part of their case. To the lawyers out there, how strong are those graphs as evidence of fraud?
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (oh+79)
------
Just recall NYT had Trump with a 95% chance of winning GA late election night.
Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (C94mD)
547
But a republic without justice or faith in the electoral system is a republic which is rightly doomed in any case.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (KZzsI)
-
Thanks. Couldn't have answered it any better myself.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (KZzsI)
-
Thanks. Couldn't have answered it any better myself.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (hsOar)
548
Can Dominion work on my 401k?
Posted by: Marcus T
Yes. Just not the way you want.
$1 to you, $2 owed to the IRS.
Posted by: Marcus T
Yes. Just not the way you want.
$1 to you, $2 owed to the IRS.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (+ZSW1)
549
488 Knowing a little bit about casino operations (way to much to tell the truth) one could say that nowadays, the most secure place on the planet is the soft count room. It would be a novel thing if vote counting was done in such a secure atmosphere.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (I58tH)
550
And where is the DOJ?
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (Zmnko)
I'm in China's pocket eating heartily
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (Zmnko)
I'm in China's pocket eating heartily
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (ONvIw)
551
I prefer MUNG to BiNO...
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (Zmnko)
552
This is why we are seeing 90%-120+% voting all over the country. It is unprecedented, and it is fraud.
The numbers were crossing the rubicon. So blackout!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (sfhL4)
I posted my back of the napkin calculations on the last thread. I believe there is no way 160 million people voted.
The numbers were crossing the rubicon. So blackout!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (sfhL4)
I posted my back of the napkin calculations on the last thread. I believe there is no way 160 million people voted.
Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
553
484 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (9gDA7)
Thank heavens! I knew we could count on you!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (9gDA7)
Thank heavens! I knew we could count on you!
Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (rOYkz)
Posted by: Brother Tim (can't let go of 10 year old memes) at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (OUMaO)
555
Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
Their target customers are commies looking to take power. They are kind of .... what's the word...STUPID!
Their target customers are commies looking to take power. They are kind of .... what's the word...STUPID!
Posted by: Paladin at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (3YWub)
556
There's no such thing as La Cosa Nostra, Senator.
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (kTF2Z)
557
521 The Instapundit crew is going full "No, Trump didn't win; quit being conspiracy nutters." And the Insty page says that Da Boss is buying/recommending the Williamson book as an Amazon purchase.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
awful
Are they afraid amazon will cut them off?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (sfhL4)
That's a bit of mis-characterization..imo.
Posted by: BignJames
agreed. the PJ Media people are quislings. Reynolds is solid.
Oh, yay.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 12:39 PM (fxCK2)
awful
Are they afraid amazon will cut them off?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (sfhL4)
That's a bit of mis-characterization..imo.
Posted by: BignJames
agreed. the PJ Media people are quislings. Reynolds is solid.
Posted by: x at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (0tE/i)
558
My point is that there was a long line of people willing to pay to see them shot.
Yeah the number of people who wanted the Kennedys dead is so long that its childish to assert conclusively it was x person. I mean the Smoking Man was entertaining on X-Files but the mob wanted them dead as hell too (and there's evidence on wiretaps that they were probably involved, to the great annoyance of the bosses).
Yeah the number of people who wanted the Kennedys dead is so long that its childish to assert conclusively it was x person. I mean the Smoking Man was entertaining on X-Files but the mob wanted them dead as hell too (and there's evidence on wiretaps that they were probably involved, to the great annoyance of the bosses).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (KZzsI)
559
'why isn't FBI involved?
And where is the DOJ?
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna
They are, just not in a role you are expecting.
And where is the DOJ?
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna
They are, just not in a role you are expecting.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (RizLv)
560
You get worse and worse. Gohmert and Powell are not Qanon. Shoo
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ONvIw)
No, but the only sourcing for the story is circular and all lead back to the orgiginal unsupported tweet from a QAnon junkie. It was posted in every thread here for about two days last week. That's what started my ranting. I don't want this to turn into another Q site that's easily discredited like all the others.
Posted by: Gore in Florida at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (ONvIw)
No, but the only sourcing for the story is circular and all lead back to the orgiginal unsupported tweet from a QAnon junkie. It was posted in every thread here for about two days last week. That's what started my ranting. I don't want this to turn into another Q site that's easily discredited like all the others.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (EgshT)
562
Paper ballots. One day voting. Voter Id. Simple punch cards. All ballots retained for inspection by hand. Observers at each poling place and counting station. No mail in bullshit. No ballot harvesting. No same day registration. Clean up the voter roles. You ain't registered a week before the vote, you ain't voting. Vote total not know till announced, all at once.
It is very simple to run a clean and fair election. Which is why democrats everything they can to avoid it.
It is very simple to run a clean and fair election. Which is why democrats everything they can to avoid it.
Posted by: Inpector Kemp at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (EwPKb)
563
This is why we are seeing 90%-120+% voting all over the country. It is unprecedented, and it is fraud.
The numbers were crossing the rubicon. So blackout!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (sfhL4)
++++++++++++
Even with crazy turnout this year (which I do think we got), 85%+ in most precincts is probably an "overvote" scenario. 100+ is obvious, even with same-day registration (which are *all* supposed to be provisional, and should be illegal).
The numbers were crossing the rubicon. So blackout!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (sfhL4)
++++++++++++
Even with crazy turnout this year (which I do think we got), 85%+ in most precincts is probably an "overvote" scenario. 100+ is obvious, even with same-day registration (which are *all* supposed to be provisional, and should be illegal).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (hYcqw)
564
"I can imagine Upstate NY is hellish place to live in, as far as representation goes.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (RizLv)"
Think of it as Virginia outside of NOVA, only colder in the winters. Although Virginia is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.
Posted by: Jinx the Cat at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (RizLv)"
Think of it as Virginia outside of NOVA, only colder in the winters. Although Virginia is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (a8b7P)
565
That New Orleans dude is sure agitated over this. Sleeper troll? Dominion contractor?
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (4NtsG)
566
I trust the games alley at the traveling carnival more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (4I/2K)
567
Kemp won't get reelected. He's sickened all those who voted for him, and Stay Puft Abrams is going to steamroll him. I'm sure he doesn't care one bit. He'll be nicely taken care of as some player within the failing GOPe, or on Soros' payroll somewhere.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (O+I8R)
568
Posted by: Inpector Kemp at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (EwPKb)
The name of Kemp is pretty tarnished.
The name of Kemp is pretty tarnished.
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (ONvIw)
569
>>565 That New Orleans dude is sure agitated over this. Sleeper troll? Dominion contractor?
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (4NtsG)
Erection fraud.
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (4NtsG)
Erection fraud.
Posted by: Zod at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (xK9An)
570
551 I prefer MUNG to BiNO...
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (Zmnko)
Wow. Harsh. But MUNG has been making sense of late.
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (Zmnko)
Wow. Harsh. But MUNG has been making sense of late.
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (bCLt0)
571
The entire story about a server being seized in Germany was started by QAnon enthusiasts. Same with the watermarked ballots on the blockchain. No evidence exists.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
This was shortly after we invaded Germany, broke in and stole the server in the dead of night, right?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:59 PM (CQ3Qb)
This was shortly after we invaded Germany, broke in and stole the server in the dead of night, right?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (9gDA7)
572
.
Posted by: Oddnot, knowing PDT will prevail at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (XwLF5)
573
I don't want this to turn into another Q site that's easily discredited like all the others.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (CQ3Qb)
If your buddy Bidet manages to rig himself into the Oval, you won't have to worry about the credibility of this site at all, since it will have gone POOF!
Feel better now?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (CQ3Qb)
If your buddy Bidet manages to rig himself into the Oval, you won't have to worry about the credibility of this site at all, since it will have gone POOF!
Feel better now?
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (DJFLF)
574
I mean I hear there are votes on flash drives and thumb drives, votes that exist only in electronic form...what the fuck dumbasses?
Posted by: Inpector Kemp at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (EwPKb)
575
Here is Dominion's response to allegations:
https://tinyurl.com/y26zr7az
https://tinyurl.com/y26zr7az
Posted by: In Exile at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (kzzyk)
576
Watkins accuses his own father of posting as Q: https://tinyurl.com/y66ds3r5
That's CodemonkeyZ.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (CQ3Qb)
Thing is, Ron has already said he's not on Parler, never has been. He contacted Bongino and said somebody is pretending to be him, and was even certified on Parler.
I think they pulled that account. Ron is only active on twatter, and has a back up account on gab.
That's CodemonkeyZ.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (CQ3Qb)
Thing is, Ron has already said he's not on Parler, never has been. He contacted Bongino and said somebody is pretending to be him, and was even certified on Parler.
I think they pulled that account. Ron is only active on twatter, and has a back up account on gab.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (8B6Ng)
577
(waves from NC where Trump won and Tillis won, but Shutdown Cooper, (D)estroyer of the economy, somehow kept his seat)
I'm betting there are a LOT of people who don't want the votes looked at too closely.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM
And a Republican won the LT. Gov. race!
I'm betting there are a LOT of people who don't want the votes looked at too closely.
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM
And a Republican won the LT. Gov. race!
Posted by: Moonbeam at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (qe5CM)
578
I trust the games alley at the traveling carnival more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM
I trust the WWE Championship more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM
I trust the WWE Championship more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (DMUuz)
579
534 Has anyone seen the CIA and Dominion in the same room at the same time?
Posted by: Bunkerintheburbs at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (DbbiL)
Always
Posted by: Bunkerintheburbs at November 20, 2020 01:02 PM (DbbiL)
Always
Posted by: Braenyard at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (CZm2G)
580
I trust that guy doing 3 card monty on the streets of NYC more than I do Dominion's voting machines
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)
581
Wrong again, champ. Louis Gohmert made it public.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (AiZBA)
Gohmert was always referencing the rumor that began as a tweet. I'm open to any evidence you may have that a server related to our Presidential election was seized in a foreign country. That should be pretty easy to demonstrate.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (AiZBA)
Gohmert was always referencing the rumor that began as a tweet. I'm open to any evidence you may have that a server related to our Presidential election was seized in a foreign country. That should be pretty easy to demonstrate.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (CQ3Qb)
582
>>> 392 If we had an FBI/CIA/NSA then they would be lawyering up from prison.
---
"Um, we have all that, but they still report to my handlers. We never turned the executive branch over. Our GOP double agents rock!
I ended the peaceful transition of power with full GOP assistance. GOP still pissed he won the primary.
But how you like the country song on my playlist, bro?
---
"Um, we have all that, but they still report to my handlers. We never turned the executive branch over. Our GOP double agents rock!
I ended the peaceful transition of power with full GOP assistance. GOP still pissed he won the primary.
But how you like the country song on my playlist, bro?
Posted by: Barracky, the One at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (wGA+o)
583
#518
The 8chan (or whatever) tech guy posted some stuff on that the other day. The voting machine setup instructions said, roughly:
"Connect to router. Log in to internet. Tech support will be available in the Slack forums"
"Addendum: Send money, guns, and lawyers"
===============================
I may have added the last part.
The 8chan (or whatever) tech guy posted some stuff on that the other day. The voting machine setup instructions said, roughly:
"Connect to router. Log in to internet. Tech support will be available in the Slack forums"
"Addendum: Send money, guns, and lawyers"
===============================
I may have added the last part.
Posted by: mrp at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (Pqytn)
584
Dominion was afraid Kraken would show up too.
My take is the CIA is neck deep in this.. it was excluded from the raid in Frankfurt where the servers were grabbed...and there are many politicians s******* bricks right now because they made payments to win, the Democrat Party being the largest customer here in the states. This also affects elections around the world.
The CISA and NSA have it all. Trump is just waiting for the right moment to drop the hammer. The song bodies on the floor comes to mind
My take is the CIA is neck deep in this.. it was excluded from the raid in Frankfurt where the servers were grabbed...and there are many politicians s******* bricks right now because they made payments to win, the Democrat Party being the largest customer here in the states. This also affects elections around the world.
The CISA and NSA have it all. Trump is just waiting for the right moment to drop the hammer. The song bodies on the floor comes to mind
Posted by: Oddnot, knowing PDT will prevail at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (XwLF5)
585
A $500 PC has the computing power to count these votes and tabulate them.
Posted by: Blago
Yup. That is the bigger point. Somehow we managed quite okay through the year 1980? With each county/precinct/whatever sending their results to someone with a calculator? Until all the counties were added up? Our populations have not grown so much to necessitate computer involvement...ummm... unless you want something more than honest results.
Posted by: Blago
Yup. That is the bigger point. Somehow we managed quite okay through the year 1980? With each county/precinct/whatever sending their results to someone with a calculator? Until all the counties were added up? Our populations have not grown so much to necessitate computer involvement...ummm... unless you want something more than honest results.
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (OqsNP)
586
No, but the only sourcing for the story is circular and all lead back to the orgiginal unsupported tweet from a QAnon junkie. It was posted in every thread here for about two days last week. That's what started my ranting. I don't want this to turn into another Q site that's easily discredited like all the others.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (CQ3Qb)
Bullshit, baby. Do you think Powell would use a larper as confirmation of a raid in Germany? How unserious are you?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (CQ3Qb)
Bullshit, baby. Do you think Powell would use a larper as confirmation of a raid in Germany? How unserious are you?
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (ONvIw)
587
484 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (9gDA7)
Thank heavens! I knew we could count on you!
Kidding!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at November 20, 2020 12:57 PM (9gDA7)
Thank heavens! I knew we could count on you!
Kidding!
Posted by: JM in Florida - I search w DuckDuckGo at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (rOYkz)
588
They're just running out the clock at this point. December 8th they'll shrug, say they tried and certify Biden. Just like the fake audit in GA, which just recounted the same fake votes.
They don't even seem to care how transparent they are.
They don't even seem to care how transparent they are.
Posted by: Karen at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (H5XMt)
589
He contacted Bongino and said somebody is pretending to be him, and was even certified on Parler.
That is not easy to do. Have you seen the requirements to get certfied??
That is not easy to do. Have you seen the requirements to get certfied??
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (BenuG)
591
Now it can be told. Brian in New Orleans is a piece of shit.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (CLteG)
592
>>But I wouldn't dismiss it as a source either. Ron Watkins, aka CodeMonkeyZ, was the administrator of 8chan/8kun for years and that was the home of Q. Watkins claims he has been in contact with a lot of people in DC giving his opinions on how the Dominion systems were corrupted.
Yes, but Ron's not Q.
BiNO was saying we shouldn't change our voting systems based on QAnon rumors. Not seeing Q cited by anyone in this discussion.
Yes, but Ron's not Q.
BiNO was saying we shouldn't change our voting systems based on QAnon rumors. Not seeing Q cited by anyone in this discussion.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (bDqIh)
593
Did you guys see this re-tweet from Scott Adams? It is pretty convincing. You see a graph in Michigan of votes for Trump and Biden. All night it is 55% for this guy, 45% for the other guy, and vice versa, as the votes come in. Then, at 6am the day after election day, about 140,000 votes for Biden. Have a look if you have time:
https://tinyurl.com/y4824jvk
Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (OqsNP)
they claim it is the mail-in ballots that they were told to count last
I heard conflicting that they counted them first.
So who knows.
Still, fraud.
https://tinyurl.com/y4824jvk
Not sure if any of it is real. But...interesting
Posted by: MikeM at November 20, 2020 12:48 PM (OqsNP)
they claim it is the mail-in ballots that they were told to count last
I heard conflicting that they counted them first.
So who knows.
Still, fraud.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (sfhL4)
594
>>Watkins accuses his own father of posting as Q: https://tinyurl.com/y66ds3r5
That's CodemonkeyZ.
You mean the article where he says it was a fake Parler account and not his?
I don't know if his dad is Q or if Q is a martian. I'm simply saying that it is dumb to call everything you don't like a conspiracy theory.
That's CodemonkeyZ.
You mean the article where he says it was a fake Parler account and not his?
I don't know if his dad is Q or if Q is a martian. I'm simply saying that it is dumb to call everything you don't like a conspiracy theory.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (ZLI7S)
595
We will not tolerate erection fraud in this country ! We deserve real erections and real results !
Posted by: runner at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (zr5Kq)
596
I have heard it said that the Logo for Dominion software ought to be a spaghetti colander. Its just as porous.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (axyOa)
597
new thread everyone about the NEW GASLITER IN TOWN>>>FIX NOISE
Posted by: kallisto at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (DJFLF)
598
Watkins accuses his own father of posting as Q: https://tinyurl.com/y66ds3r5
That's CodemonkeyZ.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (CQ3Qb)
-----------
When you've lost Gizmodo....
That's CodemonkeyZ.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (CQ3Qb)
-----------
When you've lost Gizmodo....
Posted by: Bunkerintheburbs at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (DbbiL)
599
So this is a National security matter in my book.... Where is the DNI ?
Posted by: President -elect It's me donna at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (Zmnko)
600
Wrong again, champ. Louis Gohmert made it public.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (AiZBA)
He just repeats the left's lies from their circle jerk on Twitter, doesn't he? QANNON!!! Lol.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 20, 2020 01:03 PM (AiZBA)
He just repeats the left's lies from their circle jerk on Twitter, doesn't he? QANNON!!! Lol.
Posted by: 29Victor at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (BJKQV)
601
If you're wondering, "how did the Trump votes break the algorithm?"
Like this:
With X number of votes left, Y Trump votes will be shifted to Biden.
Max Y is 3%; min Y is 0%.
The algorithm broke because the Trump votes were well in excess of the 3% and the X was getting too small--at even 3% maxed-- to rig the win.
The algorithm was maxed out and was being exposed because the exact same kept getting reported.
Solution?
Stop the counting, inject a Biden lead, restart.
Like this:
With X number of votes left, Y Trump votes will be shifted to Biden.
Max Y is 3%; min Y is 0%.
The algorithm broke because the Trump votes were well in excess of the 3% and the X was getting too small--at even 3% maxed-- to rig the win.
The algorithm was maxed out and was being exposed because the exact same kept getting reported.
Solution?
Stop the counting, inject a Biden lead, restart.
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (aO8Gd)
Posted by: Bill Clinton at November 20, 2020 01:08 PM (9gDA7)
603
I posted my back of the napkin calculations on the last thread. I believe there is no way 160 million people voted.
Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
-
Why do you find it hard to believe that literally half the country voted, and the majority elected a man who barely campaigned and his running mate who came in 4th in the presidential race in her own state?
Why do you hate science?
Posted by: Mr Meeseeks, Look at me at November 20, 2020 01:04 PM (2DOZq)
-
Why do you find it hard to believe that literally half the country voted, and the majority elected a man who barely campaigned and his running mate who came in 4th in the presidential race in her own state?
Why do you hate science?
Posted by: Moron Robbie's -They're already telling us how they'll take our guns if they steal the election at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (hsOar)
604
You rost your erections, round eyes!!!
Posted by: tubal at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (bCLt0)
605
Fox NOODs
Posted by: Dark Helmet at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (Oka5v)
606
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo
Yup, as IF Kent County Michigan would vote for Biden.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 12:40 PM (8qZo
Yup, as IF Kent County Michigan would vote for Biden.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (/Dgcm)
607
The 8chan (or whatever) tech guy posted some stuff on that the other day. The voting machine setup instructions said, roughly:
"Connect to router. Log in to internet. Tech support will be available in the Slack forums"
"Addendum: Send money, guns, and lawyers"
===============================
I may have added the last part.
Posted by: mrp
Bet you didn't.
"Connect to router. Log in to internet. Tech support will be available in the Slack forums"
"Addendum: Send money, guns, and lawyers"
===============================
I may have added the last part.
Posted by: mrp
Bet you didn't.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (+ZSW1)
608
'm sure he doesn't care one bit. He'll be nicely taken care of as some player within the failing GOPe, or on Soros' payroll somewhere.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (O+I8R)
He'll have no problems making his mortgage. He'll get a sweet gig consulting somewhere or get with a lobbying firm on K Street. Sack of shit on shit row in shit city.
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (O+I8R)
He'll have no problems making his mortgage. He'll get a sweet gig consulting somewhere or get with a lobbying firm on K Street. Sack of shit on shit row in shit city.
Posted by: clutch cargo at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (8B6Ng)
609
they should enter into evidence how those late night spikes happened in past elections (Buick trunk in MN). There is video of several accounts of (usually Dem women at the polls) trying to hide the action from view, then dumping hundreds of ballots. They apparently don't know there are other cameras watching.
That shows the pattern of Dems running polls in big cities, making sure they can cheat, removing watchers. A guy with tech experience in MI was a watcher ... he tells the story of those running the polls would not tell him if machines were online ... he could see they were ...
this link is that guy (Patrick Colbeck ... )
https://tinyurl.com/y2uvwb4a
That shows the pattern of Dems running polls in big cities, making sure they can cheat, removing watchers. A guy with tech experience in MI was a watcher ... he tells the story of those running the polls would not tell him if machines were online ... he could see they were ...
this link is that guy (Patrick Colbeck ... )
https://tinyurl.com/y2uvwb4a
Posted by: illiniwek at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (Cus5s)
610
I installed Dominion on all my kitchen appliances. Thanksgiving dinner is already done, but what am I going to do with 147,000 roast turkeys?
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (kTF2Z)
.......
That's really sad since you are allowed only 5 guests for dinner.
Posted by: your betters at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (v0R5T)
Ah, that's where you're wrong. Last night there were only 5 guests on your list.
Overnight though we found 146,874 Biden voters who will be coming to dinner.
Get more chairs!
Posted by: Duke Lowell at November 20, 2020 12:53 PM (kTF2Z)
.......
That's really sad since you are allowed only 5 guests for dinner.
Posted by: your betters at November 20, 2020 12:58 PM (v0R5T)
Ah, that's where you're wrong. Last night there were only 5 guests on your list.
Overnight though we found 146,874 Biden voters who will be coming to dinner.
Get more chairs!
Posted by: BurtTC at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (hku12)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (sfhL4)
612
450 It's real. And the exact same thing happened in Wisconsin at 3:40 in the morning.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Trump responded to Justin Hart saying his legal team was going to use those graphs as part of their case. To the lawyers out there, how strong are those graphs as evidence of fraud?
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (oh+79)
It's a good question. I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that graphs should be able to show something. People have been convicted of murder without out the body haven't been found, for instance.
Richard Feynman was able to conclusively determine that a faulty O-Ring caused the Challenger disaster, without ever having found the ring in question.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Trump responded to Justin Hart saying his legal team was going to use those graphs as part of their case. To the lawyers out there, how strong are those graphs as evidence of fraud?
Posted by: Pine Barrens at November 20, 2020 12:54 PM (oh+79)
It's a good question. I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that graphs should be able to show something. People have been convicted of murder without out the body haven't been found, for instance.
Richard Feynman was able to conclusively determine that a faulty O-Ring caused the Challenger disaster, without ever having found the ring in question.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (4tiP2)
613
Solution?
Stop the counting, inject a Biden lead, restart.
That is what it looks like exactly happened, with people showing up with thumb drives to fix the count and more ballots being shipped in by trucks.
Stop the counting, inject a Biden lead, restart.
That is what it looks like exactly happened, with people showing up with thumb drives to fix the count and more ballots being shipped in by trucks.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (KZzsI)
614
Just a note on Insty: David Bernstein is the idiot pimping Williamson over there. His posts have always been tone-deaf and pretentious. Glenn made a mistake in letting him post there and should fix that before he starts hemorrhaging readers.
My $.02.
My $.02.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (uhPTO)
615
Weird how new nics are trying to fill this place with unverified, Q rumors and other propaganda.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (a8b7P)
616
527 How does hanging people for treason damage the Republic?
Objectively it does not, but effectively since about 30% of the country refuses the very possibility that any cheating could have possibly been done and reject all evidence and proof to the contrary as conspiracy mongering Qanon crazies, it would cause enormous societal damage as they go berserk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (KZzsI)
Fine, if they want to fight about it, hang them too.
Problem solved.
Objectively it does not, but effectively since about 30% of the country refuses the very possibility that any cheating could have possibly been done and reject all evidence and proof to the contrary as conspiracy mongering Qanon crazies, it would cause enormous societal damage as they go berserk.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:01 PM (KZzsI)
Fine, if they want to fight about it, hang them too.
Problem solved.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (ZR7kf)
617
Maybe ....just maybe....it is not illegal to manipulate votes in a computer voting machine.
I'm looking but not finding.
I'm looking but not finding.
Posted by: torabora at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (Y274z)
618
387 If Trump got 100 votes and Biden got 10. They would have to set the flip rate so high it would not be believable. They were having to fraudulently convert solid red districts to blue to give Biden the number of votes to win.
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Hence the "algorithm". Votes had to be dropped in Red precincts while Biden votes were multiplied in Blue districts....to the point they suddenly had ridiculous voter turn out that exceeded 100% of the viable voters in that blue district.
Imagine republican winning a precinct in Detroit where at a minimum (without cheating) a democrat would win with 98% of the vote. Now suddenly that republican is winning with 90% of the vote you would know fraud was involved.
They were losing so badly they had to start stealing votes in solid red Trump country. Stealing Detroit wasn't enough or other dem areas to put them over the top like usual.
Hence the "algorithm". Votes had to be dropped in Red precincts while Biden votes were multiplied in Blue districts....to the point they suddenly had ridiculous voter turn out that exceeded 100% of the viable voters in that blue district.
Posted by: MrObvious at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (k+h+d)
619
We do all mail in ballots in WA state. There's no way to verify if they got your vote (even when put in a drop box), no way to know if it was even counted. It's a wonderful system, soon to be in place across the entire country, not just the west coast.
Posted by: notsothoreau at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (JKNZq)
620
the full electronic system was roadblocked by the corrupt who want to continue stuffing ballot boxes locally and the Dominion system prevents that.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
You are claiming that corrupt persons are "stuffing ballot boxes". Do you have specific evidence to back up that claim?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
You are claiming that corrupt persons are "stuffing ballot boxes". Do you have specific evidence to back up that claim?
Posted by: President-Elect Hands at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (786Ro)
621
Electronic voting can not be trusted ever.
^^^^THIS!!!^^^^
Electronic voting in any form needs to get shitcanned immediately. Go back to the only way to keep fraud at a minimum: paper ballots with a very very strict chain of custody.
^^^^THIS!!!^^^^
Electronic voting in any form needs to get shitcanned immediately. Go back to the only way to keep fraud at a minimum: paper ballots with a very very strict chain of custody.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (HaL55)
622
Wait, wrestling isn't real? Say it ain't so Nature Boy!
Posted by: Heart of Darkness at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (4NtsG)
623
If I were a cop, I'd be working on back-tracking those ballots to see where they were collected and how they were printed, their origin. Wouldn't be too terribly hard to do with modern tech and all the cameras out there.
Just takes motivation and the will to make it happen.
Just takes motivation and the will to make it happen.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (KZzsI)
624
Let me explain what the "Global Reset (of Capitalism)" means. It means there aren't going to be any jobs, and for most people, you are going to lose your house, either to foreclosure by the banks, when you can't pay your mortgage, or to the state when you can't pay your property taxes. It means, you are going to be homeless, trying to subsist from the dumpster outside of your mayor's house. When this all happens, and you find yourself living in Venezuela like conditions, remember, I told you so.
You'll have two choices if the Dems steal the election: submit to their insanity, or lock and load. Because, when you emerge from Joe Biden's lockdown to find there are no jobs left and you will be doing everything you can just to survive, you'll have no choices left. They mean to kill us, by the millions, and that is how they'll do it.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I would much rather go down swinging than to die from starvation. War is awful, but it beats state organized mass famines like the Soviets and Chinese faced, and those are absolutely coming to us.
You'll have two choices if the Dems steal the election: submit to their insanity, or lock and load. Because, when you emerge from Joe Biden's lockdown to find there are no jobs left and you will be doing everything you can just to survive, you'll have no choices left. They mean to kill us, by the millions, and that is how they'll do it.
I don't know about the rest of you, but I would much rather go down swinging than to die from starvation. War is awful, but it beats state organized mass famines like the Soviets and Chinese faced, and those are absolutely coming to us.
Posted by: An Observation sez China Joe not my president at November 20, 2020 01:11 PM (USVXT)
625
Here is Dominion's response to allegations:
https://tinyurl.com/y26zr7az
Posted by: In Exile at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (kzzyk)
+++++++++++
Dominion does not have the ability review votes in real time as they are submitted.
This I believe - that they don't keep pulse of all votes in all locations centrally. But that doesn't mention human operators gettin' jiggy with it.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity division has confirmed that it is not possible for a bad actor to change election results without detection.
There, I call BS. It is *always* possible, especially if they're getting help from the company to do it (even if it isn't in real time or centralized).
All U.S. voting systems must provide assurance that they work accurately and reliably as intended under federal U.S. EAC and date certifications and testing requirements. Election safeguards - from testing and certification of voting systems, to canvassing and auditing - prevent malicious actors from tampering with vote counts and ensure final vote tallies are accurate.
Doubtless, but this doesn't carry a lot of credibility for me. I also know I am an outlier in my particular level of distrust, but "compliance with the law" implies two things:
1) The law is good
2) The law is honored and enforced
I believe neither condition by default, but reject point 2 in virtually all cases - even when this quantity of money and power *aren't* on the line.
https://tinyurl.com/y26zr7az
Posted by: In Exile at November 20, 2020 01:06 PM (kzzyk)
+++++++++++
Dominion does not have the ability review votes in real time as they are submitted.
This I believe - that they don't keep pulse of all votes in all locations centrally. But that doesn't mention human operators gettin' jiggy with it.
The U.S. Department of Homeland Security's cybersecurity division has confirmed that it is not possible for a bad actor to change election results without detection.
There, I call BS. It is *always* possible, especially if they're getting help from the company to do it (even if it isn't in real time or centralized).
All U.S. voting systems must provide assurance that they work accurately and reliably as intended under federal U.S. EAC and date certifications and testing requirements. Election safeguards - from testing and certification of voting systems, to canvassing and auditing - prevent malicious actors from tampering with vote counts and ensure final vote tallies are accurate.
Doubtless, but this doesn't carry a lot of credibility for me. I also know I am an outlier in my particular level of distrust, but "compliance with the law" implies two things:
1) The law is good
2) The law is honored and enforced
I believe neither condition by default, but reject point 2 in virtually all cases - even when this quantity of money and power *aren't* on the line.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:11 PM (hYcqw)
626
NOOD
Posted by: Max Power at November 20, 2020 01:11 PM (q177U)
627
Love how GA now is firing the DeKalb county election manager.
Sure, because the GA GOP cares a whole lot about the Senate run-off races. They don't seem to give a fuck about the presidential race recount / audit.
Sure, because the GA GOP cares a whole lot about the Senate run-off races. They don't seem to give a fuck about the presidential race recount / audit.
Posted by: Revenant at November 20, 2020 01:11 PM (+nZa8)
628
Bullshit, baby. Do you think Powell would use a larper as confirmation of a raid in Germany? How unserious are you?
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (ONvIw)
I believe she has been mislead. That's the most generous conclusion I can make.
Can I ask you what the expiration date on this story should be? What date has to pass without any evidence being presented that might make you question the veracity of the story? Will you be OK if they never present any evidence of the machines being hacked or reprogrammed to change vote totals?
Posted by: DOJ is fat and unwilling at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (ONvIw)
I believe she has been mislead. That's the most generous conclusion I can make.
Can I ask you what the expiration date on this story should be? What date has to pass without any evidence being presented that might make you question the veracity of the story? Will you be OK if they never present any evidence of the machines being hacked or reprogrammed to change vote totals?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM (CQ3Qb)
629
So this is a National security matter in my book.... Where is the DNI ?>>>
You cant's spell "dominion" without "d", "n", and "i".
You cant's spell "dominion" without "d", "n", and "i".
Posted by: Old Dude at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM (LGXGf)
630
Lawyers are supposed to be word people. But one criticism I would have for the Trump team is in the rhetoric, in the precise use of language.
For God's sake stop using the "overturn the election" and correct those who do. "Exposing and reversing fraud in an election."
Rhetorical question: "Who here thinks that cheating is OK and exposing cheating is wrong?"
For God's sake stop using the "overturn the election" and correct those who do. "Exposing and reversing fraud in an election."
Rhetorical question: "Who here thinks that cheating is OK and exposing cheating is wrong?"
Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM (hKi6n)
631
578 I trust the games alley at the traveling carnival more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM
I trust the WWE Championship more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (DMUuz)
I trust a Trabant salesman more than I do Dominion machines
Posted by: Count de Monet at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM
I trust the WWE Championship more than I do Dominion machines.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at November 20, 2020 01:07 PM (DMUuz)
I trust a Trabant salesman more than I do Dominion machines
Posted by: josephistan at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM (Izzlo)
632
One thing Chicago is known for is clean corruption free government.
There is only one other city known to be more squeaky clean.
There is only one other city known to be more squeaky clean.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM (/Dgcm)
633
The "middle of the night" vote dumps are/are not suspicious, depending entirely on the history and the facts.
First thing that occurred to me election night after Trump spoke.
Different regions and cities of various states historically have reported their results at different times, seems to vary quite a bit.
Saw a rando claiming that Milwaukee, for example, normally produced most of its results late at night on election day. I have no effing idea whether this is accurate, but it's easy to check, and if true completely removes one bit of "evidence" for hanky panky.
As I've said a zillion times, I have to think Trump was given an analysis by his data team, which I would think would include such info as what was the normal pattern of results reporting in the key states (time of day, region, etc). *IF* that side of things were suspicious. I think the numbers themselves, the pattern, the "results" vs. pretty solid expectations for specific counties, etc., would be the heart of that analysis. But "timing" could be, too.
First thing that occurred to me election night after Trump spoke.
Different regions and cities of various states historically have reported their results at different times, seems to vary quite a bit.
Saw a rando claiming that Milwaukee, for example, normally produced most of its results late at night on election day. I have no effing idea whether this is accurate, but it's easy to check, and if true completely removes one bit of "evidence" for hanky panky.
As I've said a zillion times, I have to think Trump was given an analysis by his data team, which I would think would include such info as what was the normal pattern of results reporting in the key states (time of day, region, etc). *IF* that side of things were suspicious. I think the numbers themselves, the pattern, the "results" vs. pretty solid expectations for specific counties, etc., would be the heart of that analysis. But "timing" could be, too.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 01:13 PM (OTzUX)
634
since this is 100% politics: the appearance of guilt is 100% conviction. Hang Dominion.
back to paper and purple thumbs. IT WORKS
back to paper and purple thumbs. IT WORKS
Posted by: projection on steroids at November 20, 2020 01:13 PM (9/sZ8)
635
Rhetorical question: "Who here thinks that cheating is OK and exposing cheating is wrong?"
Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM
* raises hands *
Posted by: Mr. Barky at November 20, 2020 01:12 PM
* raises hands *
Posted by: Democrats at November 20, 2020 01:14 PM (DMUuz)
636
@615
And again, it makes little sense. 75 million or more aren't going to be dissuaded, and neither is Trump.
The bad guys are wasting money on the trolls
And again, it makes little sense. 75 million or more aren't going to be dissuaded, and neither is Trump.
The bad guys are wasting money on the trolls
Posted by: artemis at November 20, 2020 01:14 PM (AwPyG)
637
The "middle of the night" vote dumps are/are not suspicious, depending entirely on the history and the facts. ...
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 01:13 PM (OTzUX)
++++++++++++
True, as is what follows. But swing states coordinating counting stoppages overnight at more or less the same time is suspicious no matter what...
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 01:13 PM (OTzUX)
++++++++++++
True, as is what follows. But swing states coordinating counting stoppages overnight at more or less the same time is suspicious no matter what...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:15 PM (hYcqw)
638
They are skipping town and wiping their online footprints.
I hope people grabbed the info.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sfhL4)
Sidney said in the press conference that Dominion was closing offices and moving people out without forwarding locations. She and the legal team are aware.
I hope people grabbed the info.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at November 20, 2020 12:04 PM (sfhL4)
Sidney said in the press conference that Dominion was closing offices and moving people out without forwarding locations. She and the legal team are aware.
Posted by: Jen the original at November 20, 2020 01:17 PM (7sidJ)
639
24 I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
The algorithm didn't break. It worked fine.
The issues appear to be that:
A.) It wasn't enough to secure a Biden victory without even more late-night ballot stuffing, and,
2.) the Trump vote was so overwhelming and widespread that it ran up against the algorithm's pre-set limits to switch votes, creating a pattern that can be seen with basic statistical analysis of precinct returns.
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
The algorithm didn't break. It worked fine.
The issues appear to be that:
A.) It wasn't enough to secure a Biden victory without even more late-night ballot stuffing, and,
2.) the Trump vote was so overwhelming and widespread that it ran up against the algorithm's pre-set limits to switch votes, creating a pattern that can be seen with basic statistical analysis of precinct returns.
Posted by: Persona Non Grata at November 20, 2020 01:17 PM (w+Ped)
640
It's a good question. I'm not a lawyer, but I would think that graphs should be able to show something. People have been convicted of murder without out the body haven't been found, for instance.
Richard Feynman was able to conclusively determine that a faulty O-Ring caused the Challenger disaster, without ever having found the ring in question.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (4tiP2)
You know what that entire analysis is based upon?
Stats and Probability.
Material properties always have such analysis behind them... even if you have a sample of one and one test to base everything in the universe upon.
Richard Feynman was able to conclusively determine that a faulty O-Ring caused the Challenger disaster, without ever having found the ring in question.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at November 20, 2020 01:09 PM (4tiP2)
You know what that entire analysis is based upon?
Stats and Probability.
Material properties always have such analysis behind them... even if you have a sample of one and one test to base everything in the universe upon.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 20, 2020 01:17 PM (/Dgcm)
641
How hard is it for a company to defend their product?
We all know in our guts what it means if a company won't defend their work product at the drop of a hat.
We all know in our guts what it means if a company won't defend their work product at the drop of a hat.
Posted by: Two Weeks at November 20, 2020 01:17 PM (tEaGV)
642
re: 603. The near-capacity* crowds at all of Biden's rallies should have made it pretty clear he was true front-runner all along.
*(due to COVID concerns, all Biden rallies will be capped at a maximum of 15 attendants)
*(due to COVID concerns, all Biden rallies will be capped at a maximum of 15 attendants)
Posted by: Simple Stevo at November 20, 2020 01:18 PM (/zfsb)
643
* insert Sam Kinison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet
The Honorable Samuel Burl Kinison, Judge, Presiding: "Counsel, your client has been asked a question. How does he answer?"
Counsel for Dominion Voting Systems: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "I'm sorry, counsel. I thought I heard something about the 5th Amendment."
Dominion Counsel: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "https://tinyurl.com/Say-it-SAY-IT-Kinison"
Dominion Counsel: *curls up under counsel table, weeping*
Posted by: Count de Monet
The Honorable Samuel Burl Kinison, Judge, Presiding: "Counsel, your client has been asked a question. How does he answer?"
Counsel for Dominion Voting Systems: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "I'm sorry, counsel. I thought I heard something about the 5th Amendment."
Dominion Counsel: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "https://tinyurl.com/Say-it-SAY-IT-Kinison"
Dominion Counsel: *curls up under counsel table, weeping*
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2020 01:19 PM (BM2fS)
644
Why would an electronic voting machine allow for algorithms?
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
Maybe a clue is in their name?? They are a voting machine- not just a vote counting machine.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 20, 2020 12:09 PM (ZLI7S)
Maybe a clue is in their name?? They are a voting machine- not just a vote counting machine.
Posted by: Chillin the most at November 20, 2020 01:20 PM (lonOK)
645
Headline on MSN.com: Georgia certifies Biden's win after statewide audit (CNN). It's my understanding that all they did was recount votes, no audit was conducted.
Posted by: Bill R. at November 20, 2020 01:20 PM (wzzJf)
646
599 So this is a National security matter in my book.... Where is the DNI ?
____________
In Moscow interviewing hookers who give golden showers?
____________
In Moscow interviewing hookers who give golden showers?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2020 01:21 PM (k4dH2)
647
So Dana Perino had it exactly ass backwards yesterday when she said Dominion should sue for defamation.
So Dana Perino had it exactly ass backwards yesterday when she said Dominion should sue for defamation.
Posted by: DAK at November 20, 2020 01:22 PM (PtOP4)
648
KEEP ON TRUCKIN' TRUMP, GUILIANO, ELLIS AND POWELL!!
ATTACK, ATTACK AND KEEP ON ATTACKING BUT WE NEED TO GET SOME SHIT INTO A COURTROOM. JUST DOT THE i's AND CROSS THOSE t's.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND IT'S DEMOCRACY!!!!!
ATTACK, ATTACK AND KEEP ON ATTACKING BUT WE NEED TO GET SOME SHIT INTO A COURTROOM. JUST DOT THE i's AND CROSS THOSE t's.
GOD BLESS AMERICA AND IT'S DEMOCRACY!!!!!
Posted by: jd at November 20, 2020 01:23 PM (+fjIe)
649
There is another problem with electronic voting systems. They are inscrutable to the majority of voters. That entails distrust. You may argue that mistrust is misguided, if you wish. And you may be right. But it is a fact that cannot be ignored. Doing so is classic Progressive thinking, that the people's wishes and motives are to be overridden because they are unwarrented.
The conservative view has always been that the character of a society matters, and politics must be conducted accordingly.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (7X3UV)
Well stated. Even if honest incorruptible voting machines can be built, they have to be trusted by the users. And to be trusted, they have to be understood. Just about anybody can understand how paper ballots are manually counted. And while it's possible to game that system, it's also possible to build in safeguards to make large-scale fraud well-nigh impossible.
The conservative view has always been that the character of a society matters, and politics must be conducted accordingly.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM (7X3UV)
Well stated. Even if honest incorruptible voting machines can be built, they have to be trusted by the users. And to be trusted, they have to be understood. Just about anybody can understand how paper ballots are manually counted. And while it's possible to game that system, it's also possible to build in safeguards to make large-scale fraud well-nigh impossible.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 20, 2020 01:24 PM (mM8PF)
650
Damnit, link didn't work. Let's try this again.
* insert Sam Kinison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet
The Honorable Samuel Burl Kinison, Judge, Presiding: "Counsel, your client has been asked a question. How does he answer?"
Counsel for Dominion Voting Systems: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "I'm sorry, counsel. I thought I heard something about the 5th Amendment."
Dominion Counsel: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "* insert Sam Kinison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet
The Honorable Samuel Burl Kinison, Judge, Presiding: "Counsel, your client has been asked a question. How does he answer?"
Counsel for Dominion Voting Systems: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "I'm sorry, counsel. I thought I heard something about the 5th Amendment."
Dominion Counsel: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "https://tinyurl.com/SAY-IT-SAY-IT-SK"
Dominion Counsel: *curls up under counsel table, weeping*"
Dominion Counsel: *curls up under counsel table, weeping*
* insert Sam Kinison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet
The Honorable Samuel Burl Kinison, Judge, Presiding: "Counsel, your client has been asked a question. How does he answer?"
Counsel for Dominion Voting Systems: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "I'm sorry, counsel. I thought I heard something about the 5th Amendment."
Dominion Counsel: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "* insert Sam Kinison scream *
Posted by: Count de Monet
The Honorable Samuel Burl Kinison, Judge, Presiding: "Counsel, your client has been asked a question. How does he answer?"
Counsel for Dominion Voting Systems: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "I'm sorry, counsel. I thought I heard something about the 5th Amendment."
Dominion Counsel: "[inaudible]"
Judge Kinison: "https://tinyurl.com/SAY-IT-SAY-IT-SK"
Dominion Counsel: *curls up under counsel table, weeping*"
Dominion Counsel: *curls up under counsel table, weeping*
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2020 01:25 PM (BM2fS)
651
The Dominion voting machines we use print a verifiable receipt that the voter can check.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Are you sure, Brian? Can you read the barcodes to make sure it matches the human readable text?
Some random thoughts:
As Powell said, this is not just voter fraud, it's Election Official Fraud. There is a spider at the center of this web, and I suspect the spider is made up of several Obama/Clinton CCP-connected Soros-funded operatives and DNC bigwigs.
This coup seems like it's run by coke-snorting Hunter Biden style baby-mafia types, so it should be easy to unravel once the threads are pulled. The Trump legal team have found many low-level 'workers' who will save their skins by leading them to the higher-level schemers and plotters who directed their 'work'. They will then find not only the people who arranged the digital vote skimming and laundering, but those who printed counterfeit ballots and entered them into the tallies to backfill for the 'recounts'. I suspect that's how they kept Georgia in Biden column so far. Everything will come out in a huge cascade.
The only recent news about AG Bill Barr is speculative fake news. He's not making any public moves himself at all. I wonder what he's up to behind the scenes?
I've got an ear worm today: Sen lawyers, gun and money, the shit has hit the fan.
There's a rumor that when Sidney Powell announced she was looking into Dominion, searches on the Google for "non extradition countries" spiked a hundredfold.
This quote would be appropriate on the DNC's tombstone:
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up."
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 20, 2020 12:18 PM (CQ3Qb)
Are you sure, Brian? Can you read the barcodes to make sure it matches the human readable text?
Some random thoughts:
As Powell said, this is not just voter fraud, it's Election Official Fraud. There is a spider at the center of this web, and I suspect the spider is made up of several Obama/Clinton CCP-connected Soros-funded operatives and DNC bigwigs.
This coup seems like it's run by coke-snorting Hunter Biden style baby-mafia types, so it should be easy to unravel once the threads are pulled. The Trump legal team have found many low-level 'workers' who will save their skins by leading them to the higher-level schemers and plotters who directed their 'work'. They will then find not only the people who arranged the digital vote skimming and laundering, but those who printed counterfeit ballots and entered them into the tallies to backfill for the 'recounts'. I suspect that's how they kept Georgia in Biden column so far. Everything will come out in a huge cascade.
The only recent news about AG Bill Barr is speculative fake news. He's not making any public moves himself at all. I wonder what he's up to behind the scenes?
I've got an ear worm today: Sen lawyers, gun and money, the shit has hit the fan.
There's a rumor that when Sidney Powell announced she was looking into Dominion, searches on the Google for "non extradition countries" spiked a hundredfold.
This quote would be appropriate on the DNC's tombstone:
"Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f**k things up."
Posted by: starboardhelm at November 20, 2020 01:25 PM (yy4fX)
652
Just a note on Insty: David Bernstein is the idiot pimping Williamson over there. His posts have always been tone-deaf and pretentious. Glenn made a mistake in letting him post there and should fix that before he starts hemorrhaging readers.
My $.02.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (uhPTO)
Thanks. I go through Insty on my lunch and, aside from Gail Herriot, I don't pay attention to the bylines enough.
My $.02.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at November 20, 2020 01:10 PM (uhPTO)
Thanks. I go through Insty on my lunch and, aside from Gail Herriot, I don't pay attention to the bylines enough.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at November 20, 2020 01:26 PM (fxCK2)
653
No, you aren't missing anything. Anything printed on
the receipt means nothing. That does not address how the machine
tabulated the vote. That's why the bubble sheet voting is more secure.
You can always go back to the paper and do a hand tabulation or run them
through a different machine.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (J70i0)
Those receipt likely would not pass muster to be recounted as proof of vote either. They do not follow a legal chain of evidence and are can be altered.
the receipt means nothing. That does not address how the machine
tabulated the vote. That's why the bubble sheet voting is more secure.
You can always go back to the paper and do a hand tabulation or run them
through a different machine.
Posted by: WOPR - Election Theater Participant at November 20, 2020 12:51 PM (J70i0)
Those receipt likely would not pass muster to be recounted as proof of vote either. They do not follow a legal chain of evidence and are can be altered.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 20, 2020 01:26 PM (946rW)
654
I give up.
Posted by: Sharkman at November 20, 2020 01:28 PM (BM2fS)
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 20, 2020 01:28 PM (946rW)
656
Thanks. I go through Insty on my lunch and, aside from Gail Herriot, I don't pay attention to the bylines enough.
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Herriot and Hoyt are the only ones worth reading. Driscoll is an idiot. And why anyone would give space to that worthless POS Williamson is a mystery.
Thanks. I go through Insty on my lunch and, aside from Gail Herriot, I don't pay attention to the bylines enough.
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Herriot and Hoyt are the only ones worth reading. Driscoll is an idiot. And why anyone would give space to that worthless POS Williamson is a mystery.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 20, 2020 01:29 PM (k4dH2)
657
Trump should torch up Air Force One and have a day of rallies in all the swing states. Let the state legilatures know that everyone is looking (and will vote) at what they do in this historic moment.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM
Especially in our state of MI
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM
Especially in our state of MI
Posted by: clutch at November 20, 2020 01:30 PM (9UmRs)
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Think of it as Virginia outside of NOVA, only colder in the winters. Although Virginia is one of the most beautiful places on the planet.
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (a8b7P)
As is all of NYS above The City environs.
North Country
Hudson Valley
Finger Lakes
Catskills
Allegheny / Southern Tier
WNY / Niagara Region
Stay and fight for it!
Posted by: Marcus T at November 20, 2020 01:05 PM (a8b7P)
As is all of NYS above The City environs.
North Country
Hudson Valley
Finger Lakes
Catskills
Allegheny / Southern Tier
WNY / Niagara Region
Stay and fight for it!
Posted by: browndog at November 20, 2020 01:30 PM (BgMrQ)
659
The "middle of the night" vote dumps are/are not suspicious, depending entirely on the history and the facts. ...
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 01:13 PM (OTzUX)
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True, as is what follows. But swing states coordinating counting stoppages overnight at more or less the same time is suspicious no matter what...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:15 PM (hYcqw)
The way I heard it, these vote dumps were (1) immediate, (2) long after the counting had been stopped and (3) absurdly lop-sided.
They were not observed by poll watchers, who had gone home.
It's not talked about a lot, but PA had one too. About 65k votes showed up out of nowhere, 92.5% for Biden.
In the following days, Biden got 73.6%, 73.5%, and then 78.5%. All pretty high, even for "Biden country". This last one finally put Biden over the top. After that, it magically dropped to 68.4%.
I think the idea is that these were the mail-in votes, as they came in. That's unrealistically high for mail-in votes.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 20, 2020 01:13 PM (OTzUX)
++++++++++++
True, as is what follows. But swing states coordinating counting stoppages overnight at more or less the same time is suspicious no matter what...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 20, 2020 01:15 PM (hYcqw)
The way I heard it, these vote dumps were (1) immediate, (2) long after the counting had been stopped and (3) absurdly lop-sided.
They were not observed by poll watchers, who had gone home.
It's not talked about a lot, but PA had one too. About 65k votes showed up out of nowhere, 92.5% for Biden.
In the following days, Biden got 73.6%, 73.5%, and then 78.5%. All pretty high, even for "Biden country". This last one finally put Biden over the top. After that, it magically dropped to 68.4%.
I think the idea is that these were the mail-in votes, as they came in. That's unrealistically high for mail-in votes.
Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at November 20, 2020 01:30 PM (hOOi9)
660
Yet that fucker in Georgia certified the election.
Posted by: Iblis at November 20, 2020 01:31 PM (abOpZ)
661
Trump should torch up Air Force One and have a day of rallies in all the swing states. Let the state legilatures know that everyone is looking (and will vote) at what they do in this historic moment.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM
Exactly.
Posted by: jwest at November 20, 2020 12:50 PM
Exactly.
Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at November 20, 2020 01:31 PM (hOOi9)
662
If the algorithm is set to accommodate Trump winning 55 to 45 (which is landslide territory) - it switches votes for Biden to win 51 to 49.
But Trump winning 60 to 40 makes the algorithms vote switching not enough.
They have to start cramming paper ballots through the machine multiple times, etc. They have to resort to the old fashioned vote stealing to make up for what the algorithm wasn't able to accomplish.
They could start having ballots show up in Detroit because that kind of fraud always happens there and their people are in charge than saying a 90 % red district suddenly voted 90% for Biden.It is too obvious and absurd.
But Trump winning 60 to 40 makes the algorithms vote switching not enough.
They have to start cramming paper ballots through the machine multiple times, etc. They have to resort to the old fashioned vote stealing to make up for what the algorithm wasn't able to accomplish.
They could start having ballots show up in Detroit because that kind of fraud always happens there and their people are in charge than saying a 90 % red district suddenly voted 90% for Biden.It is too obvious and absurd.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 01:33 PM (8qZo8)
663
I've got your voting receipt right here (grabbing my crotch and cackling).
Posted by: DominionSoftware at November 20, 2020 01:36 PM (8qZo8)
664
They could start having ballots show up in Detroit because that kind of fraud always happens there and their people are in charge than saying a 90 % red district suddenly voted 90% for Biden.It is too obvious and absurd.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 01:33 PM (8qZo
And that's how they end up with three times as many votes as voters.
Posted by: Trump8moreYears at November 20, 2020 01:33 PM (8qZo
And that's how they end up with three times as many votes as voters.
Posted by: President-Elect Optimizer at November 20, 2020 01:38 PM (hOOi9)
665
So few conservatives have actually bothered to Google "Dominion" to see the abundance of questions, dating back to 2016 on the problems.
Every one of Sidney's claims divulged in that presser is public information - all open source information. So there was not a single surprise or gotcha or conspiratorial hint to anything she said.
Even Democrats Klobuchar and Warren have railed about it, as well as "Republican" Lankford, who all appeared in this year's HBO's documentary Kill Chain about fraud in our elections. All the problems are laid out in that film (on Amazon).
HuffPost wrote about it in 2017, even touching on the lies Dominion told about its ties to Sequoia and Chavez.
If we want to be free men and women, we need to be smarter and stop asking to be spoonfed anything.
The other day, my spouse said, We need to restore the country.
I said, Restore it to what? For all my life, we've been pushed about by weak-minded idiots. We would need to restore it to a point in time I didn't live in -- and I'm not sure that we have a clue.
Every one of Sidney's claims divulged in that presser is public information - all open source information. So there was not a single surprise or gotcha or conspiratorial hint to anything she said.
Even Democrats Klobuchar and Warren have railed about it, as well as "Republican" Lankford, who all appeared in this year's HBO's documentary Kill Chain about fraud in our elections. All the problems are laid out in that film (on Amazon).
HuffPost wrote about it in 2017, even touching on the lies Dominion told about its ties to Sequoia and Chavez.
If we want to be free men and women, we need to be smarter and stop asking to be spoonfed anything.
The other day, my spouse said, We need to restore the country.
I said, Restore it to what? For all my life, we've been pushed about by weak-minded idiots. We would need to restore it to a point in time I didn't live in -- and I'm not sure that we have a clue.
Posted by: Carly at November 20, 2020 01:42 PM (AXTSd)
666
Rudy's question: How did all of the election officials wake up with the same idea in mind to corral Republican poll watchers and thwart their efforts to conduct oversight?
Also Rudy's question: How did all the states coordinate to stop counting the votes on the night of the election?
Also Rudy's question: How did all the states coordinate to stop counting the votes on the night of the election?
Posted by: Carly at November 20, 2020 01:46 PM (AXTSd)
667
>>I think Trump's been expecting this for years.
Not only did he expect it, he issued an Executive Order two years ago detailing criminal penalties for those engaged in interference in U. S. elections:
https://tinyurl.com/ybg63hmw
Not only did he expect it, he issued an Executive Order two years ago detailing criminal penalties for those engaged in interference in U. S. elections:
https://tinyurl.com/ybg63hmw
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 20, 2020 01:50 PM (XYHTz)
668
If you have any doubt whatsoever that this election was stolen, then read this BBC article on the signs of vote-rigging. Our 2020 election met all the 6 criteria for administrative fraud -- and we exceeded the criteria by adding technological fraud!!
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
1. Too many voters
2. A high turnout in a specific area
3. Large numbers of invalid votes
4. More votes than ballot papers issued
5. Results that don't match
6. Delay in announcing results
*Article was about third-world country elections. We are officially a banana republic. How long has this been going on?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-37243190
1. Too many voters
2. A high turnout in a specific area
3. Large numbers of invalid votes
4. More votes than ballot papers issued
5. Results that don't match
6. Delay in announcing results
*Article was about third-world country elections. We are officially a banana republic. How long has this been going on?
Posted by: Carly at November 20, 2020 01:50 PM (AXTSd)
669
306 Here is what I would do if I were going to audit Dominion machines.
Sieze a few from non-contested areas and contested areas - unannounced of course. Run 1000 ballots each with Trump and Biden selected for President.
Get the counts.
That will tell you something.
You have to reset the clock to election day, run 10k+ ballots through a few times. Space out the length between feeds, have one set be 90%T and another 90%B. Think like a criminal.
But, this is so risky for the manufacturer...how do they cover the risk of a recount being off?
Sieze a few from non-contested areas and contested areas - unannounced of course. Run 1000 ballots each with Trump and Biden selected for President.
Get the counts.
That will tell you something.
You have to reset the clock to election day, run 10k+ ballots through a few times. Space out the length between feeds, have one set be 90%T and another 90%B. Think like a criminal.
But, this is so risky for the manufacturer...how do they cover the risk of a recount being off?
Posted by: Two Weeks at November 20, 2020 02:00 PM (tEaGV)
670
667 >>I think Trump's been expecting this for years.
Not only did he expect it, he issued an Executive Order two years ago detailing criminal penalties for those engaged in interference in U. S. elections:
https://tinyurl.com/ybg63hmw
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 20, 2020 01:50 PM (XYHTz)
According to the EO, Ratcliffe (DNI) is supposed to assess the foreign interference and meet with Mnuchin (Treas), Pompeo (SoS), Barr (DOJ), and Wolfe (DHS).
CISA was under DHS (Wolfe) and Chris Krebs (head of CISA) just got canned as well as his asst. (Krebs is not related to Brian Krebs, the cybersecurity journalist.)
Haspel doesn't figure anywhere in this. Thank God!
Other developments: Miller (Acting Sec of Def), Cohen-Watnik (Acting Asst Sec of Def), and Patel (Chief of Staff to Miller). Cohen-Watnik is a Flynn ally as well as the one shared info with Devin Nunes on the illegal surveillance on the Trump campaign. Patel investigated Spygate on behalf of Devin Nunes. All I know about Miller is he's fmr Green Beret. Miller just shortened the chain of command for spec ops, cutting out CIA's input.
Also, Hawley announced Facebook whistleblower has outed Big Tech/Social Media's collusion on interfering with the election via censorship.
And ... Nov 10 it was announced that former Google CEO Schmidt bought citizenship in Greece, money-laundering capitol of the world.
More to come. Some events we may never see or hear about.
Not only did he expect it, he issued an Executive Order two years ago detailing criminal penalties for those engaged in interference in U. S. elections:
https://tinyurl.com/ybg63hmw
Posted by: Anonymous 7 at November 20, 2020 01:50 PM (XYHTz)
According to the EO, Ratcliffe (DNI) is supposed to assess the foreign interference and meet with Mnuchin (Treas), Pompeo (SoS), Barr (DOJ), and Wolfe (DHS).
CISA was under DHS (Wolfe) and Chris Krebs (head of CISA) just got canned as well as his asst. (Krebs is not related to Brian Krebs, the cybersecurity journalist.)
Haspel doesn't figure anywhere in this. Thank God!
Other developments: Miller (Acting Sec of Def), Cohen-Watnik (Acting Asst Sec of Def), and Patel (Chief of Staff to Miller). Cohen-Watnik is a Flynn ally as well as the one shared info with Devin Nunes on the illegal surveillance on the Trump campaign. Patel investigated Spygate on behalf of Devin Nunes. All I know about Miller is he's fmr Green Beret. Miller just shortened the chain of command for spec ops, cutting out CIA's input.
Also, Hawley announced Facebook whistleblower has outed Big Tech/Social Media's collusion on interfering with the election via censorship.
And ... Nov 10 it was announced that former Google CEO Schmidt bought citizenship in Greece, money-laundering capitol of the world.
More to come. Some events we may never see or hear about.
Posted by: Carly at November 20, 2020 02:01 PM (AXTSd)
671
Dry hole? Jesus titty fucking Christ. OK.
Posted by: nip at November 20, 2020 02:03 PM (yoqcZ)
672
You may contact our law firm, Steele, Cheatem and Howe for further information.
Posted by: Dominion at November 20, 2020 02:03 PM (cCxiu)
673
639 24 I still don't get how votes for Trump "broke" the algorithm. Is that to say if they kept at it, it would be clear that there were more votes than residents in those states and so they had to back off?
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
==
What Sidney means is that Trump's support was racing him toward the finish line too fast. And the algorithm couldn't keep up covertly. They had to shut it down to backfill votes.
Posted by: InCali at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (9AFWN)
==
What Sidney means is that Trump's support was racing him toward the finish line too fast. And the algorithm couldn't keep up covertly. They had to shut it down to backfill votes.
Posted by: Carly at November 20, 2020 02:07 PM (AXTSd)
674
Why have over 100 Dominion employees deleted their profiles on LinkedIn? Since a couple days after Election Day in the US, more than 100 of 243 Dominion employees have deleted their profiles on LinkedIn.
Posted by: Viator at November 20, 2020 02:42 PM (89mvl)
675
"...slapped in their faces" by corrupt PA politicians!
Posted by: Kurtz at November 20, 2020 02:47 PM (0YZ6P)
676
31 Dominion is a rather off-putting name for a company that manufactures voting machines for a democratic process.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
I'm sure you noticed their logo showing the vote going in red and coming out blue. Is that a coincidence?
Posted by: Stu Podaso at November 20, 2020 12:07 PM (wUHYj)
I'm sure you noticed their logo showing the vote going in red and coming out blue. Is that a coincidence?
Posted by: DeplorablyBonnieBlue Says TRUMP WON at November 20, 2020 03:10 PM (BNMel)
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If the US Supreme Court chooses to ignore the massive violation of
Pennsylvania's Constitutionally protected election law, it will be
allowing 682,000 illegal ballots to defraud and disenfranchise OVER THREE MILLION LEGAL VOTES.
By looking the other way, the US Supreme
Court will become complicit in this tyrannical fraud, in this
Republic-destroying coup.
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court
unconstitutionally and brazenly rewrote Pennsylvania election law which
explicitly states that not only do partisans have the right to observe
mail-in ballots as they are being counted; the observers also have the
right to OBJECT to ballots which they believe to be irregular.
The
US Supreme Court needs to take the case and declare: "That is a
Constitutionally protected law. You don't get to rewrite it in any way
shape or form. Under Pennsylvania law, those ballots are illegal."
Will 2020 be the year that the US Supreme Court utterly abandons America and its founding Constitution?
Pennsylvania's Constitutionally protected election law, it will be
allowing 682,000 illegal ballots to defraud and disenfranchise OVER THREE MILLION LEGAL VOTES.
By looking the other way, the US Supreme
Court will become complicit in this tyrannical fraud, in this
Republic-destroying coup.
The Pennsylvania Supreme Court
unconstitutionally and brazenly rewrote Pennsylvania election law which
explicitly states that not only do partisans have the right to observe
mail-in ballots as they are being counted; the observers also have the
right to OBJECT to ballots which they believe to be irregular.
The
US Supreme Court needs to take the case and declare: "That is a
Constitutionally protected law. You don't get to rewrite it in any way
shape or form. Under Pennsylvania law, those ballots are illegal."
Will 2020 be the year that the US Supreme Court utterly abandons America and its founding Constitution?
Posted by: cold civil war at November 20, 2020 04:05 PM (Z2PYk)
678
Please share:
Anyone remotely near Milwaukee this Saturday - meet up for the Election Fraud Protest in Wauwatosa, Mayfair Mall at 11 a.m. West North Avenue and Mayfair Road.
Sheriff David Clarke is organizer.
Sounds like Proud Boys will be there for security.
Sheriff Clarke hosted Mark Bellings program yesterday afternoon and detailed out the plans. Listen to his interview with Proud Boys International President at about 1:21 time.7 nun
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-mark-belling-show-24992319/
Anyone remotely near Milwaukee this Saturday - meet up for the Election Fraud Protest in Wauwatosa, Mayfair Mall at 11 a.m. West North Avenue and Mayfair Road.
Sheriff David Clarke is organizer.
Sounds like Proud Boys will be there for security.
Sheriff Clarke hosted Mark Bellings program yesterday afternoon and detailed out the plans. Listen to his interview with Proud Boys International President at about 1:21 time.7 nun
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-mark-belling-show-24992319/
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