Pennsylvania Court Countermands PA Secretary of State's Lawless Decree Extending the Deadline to "Cure" Defective Ballots

The Democrat Secretary of State had decreed that election law requiring that ballots be received by Election Day be suspended/rescinded, and that a new non-legislative law be substituted in its place.

The Constitution gives the power to decide election laws to state legislators -- not executive officials. This order was illegal.

A Pennsylvania court has ruled that this extension was illegal.

The Trump campaign scored a legal victory in Pennsylvania earlier today when a Pennsylvania Commonwealth Court barred election officials from counting mail-in and absentee ballots where voters provided missing information after November 9th.

Last week a Court ordered the ballots be segregated from other ballots received before the November 9th deadline. Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar had made last minute changes and extended the deadline from the 9th to 12th, which is what the Trump campaign challenged.


According to Fox:


A Pennsylvania judge ruled in favor of the Trump campaign Thursday, ordering that the state may not count ballots where the voters needed to provide proof of identification and failed to do so by Nov. 9.

State law said that voters have until six days after the election -- this year that was Nov. 9 -- to cure problems regarding a lack of proof of identification. After the Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that mail-in ballots could be accepted three days after Election Day, Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar submitted guidance that said proof of identification could be provided up until Nov. 12, which is six days from the ballot acceptance deadline. That guidance was issued two days before Election Day.

{[T]he Court concludes that Respondent Kathy Boockvar, in her official capacity as Secretary of the Commonwealth, lacked statutory authority to issue the November 1, 2020, guidance to Respondents County Boards of Elections insofar as that guidance purported to change the deadline... for certain electors to verify proof of identification," Judge Mary Hannah Leavitt said in a court order.


See the article for more, including Boockvar's publicly-evidenced Trump derangement system.

Dave Reaboi made a good point: The left changed all the rules and dialed voter-integrity protections down to essentially zero.

But they want us to believe that, having made fraud laughably easy to achieve, they did not take the next obvious step and defraud the vote.

He also notes that the left has shown that there is no institution it is not willing to corrupt or destroy in order to Get Trump.

But the left -- and their NeverTrumper allies, who are increasingly indistinguishable from run of the mill partisan Democrats -- claim that, "Oh, sure, the left and NeverTrump are willing to burn the media's and all megacorporations' credibility to the ground, and let cities burn, just to Get Trump. But they'd never cheat at an election!"

Really?

REALLY?

I'm also still amazed that asshole simps for socialism who pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was an asset of Vladimir Putin -- an actual Muscovian Candidate -- continue to get all finger-waggy about "conspiracy theories" that the Democrat Party, well known for committing voter fraud since the 19th century, actually committed voter fraud.

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Posted by: Comrade dude in MI at November 12, 2020 06:01 PM (/6GbT)

2 I'm sure I am not first.

Posted by: lizabth at November 12, 2020 06:02 PM (L3Rsz)

3 Wait corona cases are up, better shut down those recounts and lawsuits.
We're all in this together!

Posted by: brak at November 12, 2020 06:02 PM (cG+eD)

4 Toldja.

Posted by: lizabth at November 12, 2020 06:02 PM (L3Rsz)

5 And the wheel begins to turn.

Posted by: BigDirty at November 12, 2020 06:02 PM (BZ+4e)

6 top 10 again!?!

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:02 PM (+2xjH)

7 If there was any fraud it was with mail-in and absentee ballots. I just tuned into Hannity on the drive home and it was so depressing/infuriating. Going on and on about Dominion, citing the Texas report saying they weren't certified for use there because the test machine failed to install properly. So somehow that means the machines are rigged against Trump. He even had a lawyer on who said there was no evidence against the Dominion machines or system.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:03 PM (IbxQb)

8 Yes. This and Georgia's decision to audit/handcount are the two pieces of good news to materialize this week.

Posted by: hevelvarik at November 12, 2020 06:03 PM (fLpTX)

9 I'm waiting for Trump to give us the smoking gun.. I'll be praying it exists

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:04 PM (Zmnko)

10 Doesn't the same premise hold that the state Supreme Court didn't have the power to extend the deadline in the first place?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2020 06:04 PM (oVJmc)

11 Yes, it is a big win because the Dems are now on defense and got to appeal.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Is A Cockeyed Optmist! at November 12, 2020 06:04 PM (cZjDV)

12 "I'm also still amazed that asshole simps for socialism who pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was an asset of Vladimir Putin -- an actual Muscovian Candidate -- continue to get all finger-waggy about "conspiracy theories" that the Democrat Party, well known for committing voter fraud since the 19th century, actually committed voter fraud."

-----> the actual censorship...they just don't want us to communicate. They wanted Trump to concede early.

nope, fuckers...we'll keep on winning. GA,PA,AZ are ours and so is Trump's second term.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:04 PM (Ux7rt)

13 Ace,

Use cump which is a cross between a cuck and a simp. It is a much better description for those we are dealing with.

Posted by: TheGASS at November 12, 2020 06:05 PM (q5JuL)

14 Is the sidebar item broken:
Website Review: What is a Turnaround?
It's the question most men are asking.

The link goes to a Smallville Season 10 collection. ... Not that there's anything wrong with that ... You know ... If that's your thing and all ... Not judging ... much

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2020 06:05 PM (l6b3d)

15 and you know what it means for Trump to promise us we'll get sick of winning, we'll win so much, he's not going to just win GA,PA, AZ...he's going to burn MI and WI and probably MN and NV too.

and flip the house.

because we have not yet begun to win.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:05 PM (Ux7rt)

16 Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?

And the answer is simple.

The powers that be who control shit don't really care about the house. Whether RINOs win or Pelosi stooges win the result is the same. More spending, more borrowing, more favors to big tech, more unlimited illegal immigration for cheap labor.

Trump is the only one that mattered and had to be defeated. He was the only one getting in the way.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:05 PM (22mNy)

17 >>Yes, it is a big win because the Dems are now on defense and got to appeal.

It is also another nail for the Supreme Court to hammer on.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (ZLI7S)

18 Could have easily been top 10, oh well.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (9sWOw)

19 And Alito hasn't even done nothing yet about Philly's violation of his order.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (Ux7rt)

20 16 Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?

Because it would take too long to fill it all out

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (Zmnko)

21 And Trump is getting a hearing in front of a Federal judge in PA about the two tier voting system the Democrats setup in PA.

They should've filed their initial briefs today (but of course you won't hear about it with the Fake Media) and have until like Sunday to respond to each other.

Then the Sec and the AG will testify on the 18th I think and there's another date for another part of this suit.

Point being Trump may be successful in getting the entire vote thrown out as being a violation of equal rights/due process. What can happen after that I have no clue. Surely the State will take it to the SCOTUS.

Whether the PA legislature has the standing and/or the guts to select electors on their own to substitute for the ones that will get banned if Trump wins and that is the cure demanded by the court.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (hq2WL)

22 So, how many ballots is this?

Posted by: Ron Roner at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (mm0PZ)

23
But the media are telling me Biden took the oath of office as President-Elect!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (mht8P)

24 So far, it has feathers like a duck. It has a bill like a duck. It has webbed feet like a duck. It waddles like a duck. It goes "quack" like a duck. Couldn't possibly be a duck. Pure lunacy.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (7o4Oo)

25 Frau Bookvar is the ugliest woman in America.

The good news is she's also the dumbest politician in America. The best thing about Trump is he took all the masks off our "betters."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (/R5rs)

26 Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?

And the answer is simple.

The powers that be who control shit don't really care about the house. Whether RINOs win or Pelosi stooges win the result is the same. More spending, more borrowing, more favors to big tech, more unlimited illegal immigration for cheap labor.

Trump is the only one that mattered and had to be defeated. He was the only one getting in the way.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:05 PM (22mNy)

And when they underestimated the Trump votes they didn't have time or the logistics to fake votes in the red districts... faking votes in blue districts isn't going to get the house.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (+2xjH)

27 10 Doesn't the same premise hold that the state Supreme Court didn't have the power to extend the deadline in the first place?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2020 06:04 PM (oVJmc)

Yes. This ruling is significant mostly because it reinforces the existing understanding of the Constitution.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (Zm+LZ)

28 23
But the media are telling me Biden took the oath of office as President-Elect!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (mht8P)

__

He has a seal and everything. How much more official can it get than that?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (22mNy)

29 Democrats would protect/defend/support BLM/Antifa terrorism in the cities ... that is added to their old game of vote fabrication.


Democrats are the party of the mafia and the communists, the illegal drug trade out of China and through open borders. Vote theft is just their mild form of fighting to win by any means necessary.

Posted by: illiniwek at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (Cus5s)

30 OMFG,

all the talk around the office today has been about COVID COVID COVID


fuck me

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (W2Pud)

31 The PA GOPe are useless fucknozzles.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2020 06:08 PM (Rdf2P)

32 The Nov 1 rule change by Pa's SoS was the order to send in all the fraud votes wit hour a slim chance of being caught and %100 of being counted.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:08 PM (9sWOw)

33 7 My understanding is the machines were rigged against anyone they chose.
The ballot/voting shenanigans: vote fraud
Hammer/Scorecard: election fraud

Vote fraud is the distractor, not unlike the family of gypsies that distract store management while one or two commence the high-stakes robbery.

Posted by: socalcon at November 12, 2020 06:08 PM (Roy2Z)

34 If Boockvar appeals though, PA Supreme Court is Leftist

Posted by: vmom FIGHT FOR TRUMP! at November 12, 2020 06:08 PM (nUhF0)

35 I hope the entire system is overhauled by 2022.

Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 12, 2020 06:08 PM (v2c9/)

36 Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?

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Even simpler.

It takes 20 times longer to color in all the ovals on an average ballot than it does if you just fill in the oval for POTUS on a fake ballot.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (nw6Hr)

37 And when they underestimated the Trump votes they didn't have time or the logistics to fake votes in the red districts... faking votes in blue districts isn't going to get the house.
Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (+2xjH)

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That too. All the cheating happened in urban areas where house races are 90-10. What's the point of making them 95-5?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (22mNy)

38 If you look at the history of voter fraud and voter suppression and cheap election tricks in this countries history, it is almost entirely at the hands of the democrat party.

And everyone openly admits that Tammany Hall was involved in ballot stuffing.

Or that southern Democrats use every trick imaginable to keep Republicans and blacks from voting.

Or that there were regular ... issues ... in the "machine" cities up until the 1960's.

But BEYOND THAT, it is crazy conspiracy talk to think some of that may still be going on to this very day.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (UPoLF)

39 I wrote about this. Given that states follow the federal government in the separation of powers, the SoS overruling the proper arbiter of elections, the legislature, is really overreach.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (FYe3W)

40
Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?

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Ballots marked only for the Democratic candidate for President are perfectly normal. Happens all the time. That's what I'm told.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (mht8P)

41 > Frau Bookvar is the ugliest woman in America.

Ahem.

Posted by: Maxine Waters at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (VikfB)

42 https://tinyurl.com/y6krfmhd

Here's the link to PennLive talking about the two tier illegal voting system law suit.

Posted by: jakee308 at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (hq2WL)

43 so we're back to we're all gonna die?

Posted by: lin-duh at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (UUBmN)

44 I don't see any problems with this election! You white folks are crazy!

Posted by: Election Observer Stevie Wonder at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (FZnQH)

45 people are saying this is no big deal because it only involves a few thousand ballots are missing the bigger legal precedent and the opening it provides either (A) SCOTUS to invalidate a lot more than just a few thousand ballots, or (B) the state house to declare the vote total is corrupt and uncertifiable.

Posted by: Shenanigans at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (ZR7kf)

46 to add to this

Harmeet K. Dhillon

I want to clear something up here regarding PA lawsuit win: This has to do with ballots where first-time voters didn't provide proof of identity within 6 days after the election, NOT the PA Supreme Court ruling allowing ballots to be counted if received up to 3 days after e-day/

2/ It's unclear how many first-time voters are affected by this b/c they didn't produce this information a full six days after the election. It IS a win and its reasoning SHOULD extend to the late ballots too, but that is before SCOTUS still.

3/ Some folks are interpreting this as a ruling on both issues, and it's almost certain the 10k+ ballots admittedly received after election day are likely greater in volume than this category, but we don't know yet. There are more hearings coming up next week in PA... stay tuned.

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (sfhL4)

47 >>>fuck me
Posted by: nurse ratched


Must resist dirty reply....

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (/R5rs)

48 Is this the one where the anonymous voters were connected to their ballots and hunted down to fix their mistakes?

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (mehvR)

49 I'm also still amazed that asshole simps for socialism who pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was an asset of Vladimir Putin -- an actual Muscovian Candidate -- continue to get all finger-waggy about "conspiracy theories" that the Democrat Party, well known for committing voter fraud since the 19th century, actually committed voter fraud.
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They're never going to change. And lest we forget *they* are the handmaidens of Putin and China so why would anything they say or do surprise anyone.

Posted by: ... at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (JJyjZ)

50 16 Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?

They didn't expect to lose down ballot and didn't have the time when they realized messing with the electronic counting for the night wasn't going to be enough to overcome Trump's margin of victory the point they started old school ballot stuffing. If they hadn't resorted to ballot stuffing odds are no one would have done the statistical analysis to notice the 'glitches' with the vote counting machines.

Posted by: Oh no! Not the bees! at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (Pyy1X)

51 so we're back to we're all gonna die?
Posted by: lin-duh at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (UUBmN)

Hard to tell, I think we need a color code to separate the new nicks from the old.

Posted by: spypeach at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (Up/Jb)

52
Ballots marked only for the Democratic candidate for President are perfectly normal. Happens all the time. That's what I'm told.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (mht8P)

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Historically 3%. In 2020, 18% in Philadelphia. Perfectly normal.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (22mNy)

53 People make fun of the slippery slope, but it is as inevitable as the law of unintended consequences. Once people stood by and let these unelected petty bureaucrats lock down businesses and institute other Covid "laws" without any authority, did people really think those same petty bureaucrats wouldn't keep extending their stolen authority?

Posted by: Wally at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (S8gsF)

54 I for one welcome our paste eating overlord. Let's break it down.

Posted by: f'd at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (cd+cj)

55 interesting


Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec

The Dominion Voting Systems was rejected 3 times by data experts from the Texas Secretary of State and Attorney General for failing to meet basic security standards

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (sfhL4)

56 President Trump actually got 20.000 more votes than 2016 in fucking Philly! 18.1% vs 15.3%...that's a stunning result! a republican getting this type of support in Philly usually wins Pennsylvania by 2.5-3%

Posted by: ml1975 - conservative lurker from ITALY at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (8Gko2)

57 nope, fuckers...we'll keep on winning. GA,PA,AZ are ours and so is Trump's second term.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:04 PM (Ux7rt)



THIS !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (6psdy)

58 all the talk around the office today has been about COVID COVID COVID

Most of our clients have gone back into pants-crapping turtle mode. Feels like March/April, redux.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (EgshT)

59 "Ballots marked only for the Democratic candidate for President are perfectly normal."

Especially if they arrive in quantities in excess of 100k, in the dead of night.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (w7KSn)

60 And Trump is getting a hearing in front of a Federal judge in PA about the two tier voting system the Democrats setup in PA.
..

Obama appointed judge.

Yes I know it's going up to SCOTUS.

Just saying get ready for short term L.

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (DOvYl)

61 This isn't a yuuuge win, but it's a win. You gotta start somewhere.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (22mNy)

62 >9 I'm waiting for Trump to give us the smoking gun.. I'll be praying it exists

If it exists -- and it doesn't need to for us to win, because we do NOT need to prove that fraud turned this election. They need to prove that it did not, given that they did implement the legally required safety and quality assurance measures to create a presumption of legitimacy -- this smoking gun will most likely come out in DISCOVERY where they start issue subpoenas and getting witnesses to turn on other witnesses.

At this point, 'all' there is affidavits (which is most definitely evidence).

We have to be patient.

Posted by: hevelvarik at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (fLpTX)

63

Michigan GOP state senators demand full audit of 2020 election results


Trump has torn up the hold the left on all of us. He's given many backbones.

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (sfhL4)

64 > Because it would take too long to fill it all out

Correct. Getting the software to change the totals can be done at the click of a button, but you still need to generate the fraudulent paper ballots in the event of a challenge (and make sure the real ones are disposed of... I hope Trump's investigators are also looking into reports of stuff being carried OUT of ballot-counting locations).

Posted by: Maxine Waters at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (VikfB)

65
so we're back to we're all gonna die?

Posted by: lin-duh


On a long enough timeline. Yep.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (2ygtH)

66 people are saying this is no big deal because it only involves a few thousand ballots are missing the bigger legal precedent and the opening it provides either (A) SCOTUS to invalidate a lot more than just a few thousand ballots, or (B) the state house to declare the vote total is corrupt and uncertifiable.
Posted by: Shenanigans at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (ZR7kf)
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We spent 37 days after the election in 2000, considering counting every *dimple*, every stray pencil mark as a mark of "intention" because omitting any "intended" vote was a "disenfranchisement".

It's funny that single votes and "voter's intention" mattered 20 years ago, but thousands of people having their vote nullified by fraud "is not enough" now.

Democrats can never keep a story straight.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (FYe3W)

67 ! We are filling our official briefs now!

Posted by: Democrats shitting themselves at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (FHobP)

68 200,000 deaths nationwide = horror, system broken, Trump failed

200,000 fraudulent votes in one district = not massive fraud

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (mehvR)

69 58 all the talk around the office today has been about COVID COVID COVID

Most of our clients have gone back into pants-crapping turtle mode. Feels like March/April, redux.
Posted by: Notorious BFD


and Inslee is talking lockdowns again.

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (W2Pud)

70 >>>Ahem.

Posted by: Maxine Waters


Bookvar looks like she peered into the Ark of the Covenant

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (/R5rs)

71 7 If there was any fraud it was with mail-in and absentee ballots. I just tuned into Hannity on the drive home and it was so depressing/infuriating. Going on and on about Dominion, citing the Texas report saying they weren't certified for use there because the test machine failed to install properly. So somehow that means the machines are rigged against Trump. He even had a lawyer on who said there was no evidence against the Dominion machines or system.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:03 PM (IbxQb)

Why can't both be possible?

You think its entirely unimaginable that people used easily manipulatable machines to cheat?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (UPoLF)

72 Tonight I supp on hobo!

Posted by: simplemind at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (5vrXi)

73 In Constitution 2.0, when officials undertake activity which is later deemed illegal by the courts, said official gets charged with the crime that a private citizen would be charged with.

They would think twice before pulling this kind of shit

Posted by: President-Elect Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (uS2EJ)

74 I think I'll hoist a drink in celebration, what with it being Friday and all.

*Slante!* Here's to drinking from the skulls of our enemies.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (HaL55)

75 One theory I heard about the Biden-only votes:

If a ballot is fraudulent, anyone in any election on that ballot can challenge it -- e.g. if the ballot included a race for dogcatcher, the dogcatcher can challenge the ballot just as much as Trump can.

So, by just doing the fraud for Biden, only Trump can challenge.

Or, maybe they were just running out of time and had to rush in Biden ballots before the R count watchers returned.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (PuMKG)

76 Trump's charge isn t in a Pa SC, it's in a federal court.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (9sWOw)

77
FUCK!



Why is this taking so long?

Posted by: Biden's Oath of Office at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (cm2N9)

78 because we have not yet begun to win.

I hope the entire system is overhauled by 2022

Steiner will come.

Posted by: Banned, now with more Barr at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (2T32u)

79 Time to turn up the volume to 11 and make some noise about the coup they tried to stage.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (lhIha)

80 Machinations.

That's all this is. Mostly because I like that word.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Trump Army at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (3H9h1)

81 We are filling our official briefs now!
Posted by: Democrats shitting themselves at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (FHobP)


Way ahead of you!

Posted by: Jerry Nadler at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (Rdf2P)

82 19 And Alito hasn't even done nothing yet about Philly's violation of his order.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:06 PM (Ux7rt)


Chances are he does nothing.

If you are a SC Justice and you order people not to do something and they go ahead and do it, you don't wait.

He waited.

Posted by: blaster at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (ZfRYq)

83 I'm seeing Nextdoor talk about COVID COVID COVID again. It has pretty much disappeared for a while. Then in the past couple of weeks it's back. Fucking sheep.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (22mNy)

84 > Frau Bookvar is the ugliest woman in America.

> Ahem.

> Posted by: Maxine Waters

Only because I'm dead. I still proudly cast my vote for Joe Biden, though.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (VikfB)

85 That too. All the cheating happened in urban areas where house races are 90-10. What's the point of making them 95-5?
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The late ballot stuffing after the stoppage Tuesday night had to be in places the Dems control the vote count.

Dead or moved, or maiden votes could have been done anywhere, they just needed to know who was actually getting those ballots.

Scorecard changes would have been done after the election, but apparently weren't enough.

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (kOpft)

86 and the goddamn women are still wearing their pearls.

look so fucking stupid.

killmenow

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (W2Pud)

87 willowed:
The problem I have with the PA ruling is that how do we know that they
separated the ballots they were supposed to separate. As in, all these
Trump votes over here were late. Maybe they never opened the envelopes.
But we don't know, because there is no transparency.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (r+sAi)

88 Give it up you, puny impotent Trumpists!

No matter how many ballots you manage to get invalidated, there are innumerable more Biden ballots hidden away in my endless rolls of fat just waiting for spelunkers in hazmat suits to be sent in to retrieve them when needed!

Posted by: Jonah Goldberg at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (wE8vW)

89 76 Trump's charge isn t in a Pa SC, it's in a federal court.
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (9sWOw)

Most of the campaign's lawsuits will likely be in federal court. The PA SC messed with their election laws though, which is a point in favor of the Trump team's case.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (Zm+LZ)

90 [FROM LAST THREAD]


@realDonaldTrump 3h

"REPORT:

_DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE.

_DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. _941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED.

_STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN."

@ChanelRion @OANN
Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2020 03:11 PM (CZm2G)

They might kinda wish they'd held back on these articles soon.
Posted by: Eric Schmidt at November 12, 2020 05:37 PM (YkawN)


Why?


I'm curious, because I spent a good chunk of the morning looking at this exact thing, and came away depressed.

"Pede" says:
"Pennsylvania : Switched : 220,883 Lost Votes : 941,248"

Well, I looked at the data this guy cites, and found every case of votes going down from one data point to the next. Most of them appear to simply be rounding errors.

There are only FOUR spots where drops big enough to not be rounding errors occur. The first three happen about an hour and a half into the counting, the last is about 3 hours in:

(1) T: -42,326; B: -196,432
(2) T: -127,916; B: +12,401
(3) T: -145,179; B: -416,589
(4) T: -17,877; B: +17,930

The totals of the first three are T: -315,421; B: -600,620.

The only one that looks like it might be an actual "switch" is the 4th one. In the 2nd one, Biden goes up, but only by about 1/10 that's missing from Trump.

Between (2) and (3), there's a big jump, too:
(2a) T: +146,137; B: +337,019.

So what's going on with those first 3 is kinda kooky, but Biden loses more than Trump there!

So I don't even know where this guy gets his 220,883 number, but it looks like about 2/3 of the 940,000 "lost" votes were actually Biden's. Maybe one of the other links will point to something more accurate.

Really, this data set is too "grainy" to do a conclusive analysis. The vote counts are only accurate to three figures (which can mean thousands), and it's only updated roughly once a minute. There could be tons of vote switching going on, but THIS data isn't likely to tell you. Maybe we're lucky to catch the ONE case.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (hOOi9)

91 Ok, so the extension was illegal. They "wiped the hard drive" so to speak, tossed the envelopes, so how is this resolved?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (iEx0u)

92 >?>Why can't both be possible?

>>You think its entirely unimaginable that people used easily manipulatable machines to cheat?

Given that the Trump legal team is talking about Dominion I'd say it's more than possible.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (ZLI7S)

93 74
I think I'll hoist a drink in celebration, what with it being Friday and all.

*Slante!* Here's to drinking from the skulls of our enemies.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack


WTF, did I time warp .... again!

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (lhIha)

94 I really don't understand why voting software would ever allow a *transfer* function.

Shouldn't the emphasis be on getting it right the *first* time?

If you admit that on a software system you might somehow get votes wrong and have to *transfer* them to another candidate, you're admitting the software is not there yet, aren't you?

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (FYe3W)

95 I think I'll hoist a drink in celebration, what with it being Friday and all.

*Slante!* Here's to drinking from the skulls of our enemies.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack



You made me check my calendar.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (2ygtH)

96 93 74
I think I'll hoist a drink in celebration, what with it being Friday and all.

*Slante!* Here's to drinking from the skulls of our enemies.


Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack


WTF, did I time warp .... again!
Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen?


he's on a roll

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (W2Pud)

97 >>>74 I think I'll hoist a drink in celebration, what with it being Friday and all.



Anyone wanna tell him its Thursday?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (/R5rs)

98 When Leftists scold and lecture about how there is no voting fraud, remind them that the only reason LBJ became president was the sudden appearance of 200 people in Jim Wells County, who all voted LBJ in the 1948 Dem primary for Senate.

They ALL appeared, coincidentally, in alphabetical order.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (CBrBn)

99 71 7 If there was any fraud it was with mail-in and absentee ballots. I just tuned into Hannity on the drive home and it was so depressing/infuriating. Going on and on about Dominion, citing the Texas report saying they weren't certified for use there because the test machine failed to install properly. So somehow that means the machines are rigged against Trump. He even had a lawyer on who said there was no evidence against the Dominion machines or system.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:03 PM (IbxQb)

Why can't both be possible?

You think its entirely unimaginable that people used easily manipulatable machines to cheat?
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (UPoLF)

____

There are several ways Dem cheated. Software "glitches", destroying Trump votes, not allowing observers, 4am drops. It's not an either or scenario.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (22mNy)

100 #23. Did Boden use Obama's seal of Office of the President-Elect?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet Is A Cockeyed Optmist! at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (cZjDV)

101 People make fun of the slippery slope, but it is as inevitable as the
law of unintended consequences. Once people stood by and let these
unelected petty bureaucrats lock down businesses and institute other
Covid "laws" without any authority, did people really think those same
petty bureaucrats wouldn't keep extending their stolen authority?


They're political Terminators. They absolutely will not stop.

We're dealing with some seriously sick people.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (HaL55)

102 There are several ways Dem cheated. Software "glitches", destroying Trump votes, not allowing observers, 4am drops. It's not an either or scenario.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (22mNy)
---
It was a cluster activity.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (FYe3W)

103

Trump is slapping Fox all around. Directing people to Newsmax or OAN. lol

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (sfhL4)

104 heya Wyatt!

how's philly?

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (W2Pud)

105 But the media are telling me Biden took the oath of office as President-Elect!
Posted by: Hadrian the

---> this is hilarious.

The Path's Second Act is Censoring Trump complaining about the ballot box stuffing while Biden battlespace preps as Mr. POTUS elect.

But they didn't wargame out how little their censorship would work. Censorship is like ink on a white background, eh? If you wash everything out it works, but just a few drops here and there and it's pretty clear what's going on.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (Ux7rt)

106
My conversation with various co workers

OMIGAWWWWWD I TESTED POSITIVE!!

ME: How do you feeel?

I LOST MY SENSE OF TASTE AND SMELL.!

ME: Running a fever? Any congestion? Throwing up? Dificulty breathing?

No.. No.. No.. No

ME: Enjoy your two week paid vacation. Fucker.




Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (nw6Hr)

107 The decision is great and all.

Except meaningless if we don't know how many ballots it is.

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 12, 2020 06:17 PM (aO8Gd)

108

AP is calling IL-14 for Lauren Underwood (Communist) beating Jim Oberweiss so it must be official. Ballots magically appeared over the last weekend that put Underwood ahead.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2020 06:17 PM (E4F5u)

109 73 In Constitution 2.0, when officials undertake activity which is later deemed illegal by the courts, said official gets charged with the crime that a private citizen would be charged with.

They would think twice before pulling this kind of shit
Posted by: President-Elect Retard Strength Trumps Smart Power at November 12, 2020 06:13 PM (uS2EJ)

+50% additional time to sentence for betrayal of public trust.

Also gen pop, even if former LEO.

Posted by: Bete at November 12, 2020 06:17 PM (Ojki1)

110 52
Ballots marked only for the Democratic candidate for President are perfectly normal. Happens all the time. That's what I'm told.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 12, 2020 06:09 PM (mht8P)

___

Historically 3%. In 2020, 18% in Philadelphia. Perfectly normal.
Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (22mNy)


===

if perfectly normal, there should be an equivalent number of R ballots with only Trump votes.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2020 06:17 PM (PuMKG)

111 It would make me laugh if PA legislators ended up selecting electors because the dems cheated so damn much. Backfire!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2020 06:18 PM (r+sAi)

112
Mary Hannah Leavitt?

Nevah hearda da broad! Where's she from? Molokai, or sumptin'?

What? Pennsylvania?!

DENIED.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at November 12, 2020 06:18 PM (XJipD)

113 PROGDA says that Puddinhead is pre-preezy, why can't it be Friday?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:18 PM (HaL55)

114 111 It would make me laugh if PA legislators ended up selecting electors because the dems cheated so damn much. Backfire!

I'm not counting on them

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:18 PM (Zmnko)

115 96% of Dominion's political donations went to Dems

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2020 06:18 PM (DOvYl)

116 >>Ok, so the extension was illegal. They "wiped the hard drive" so to speak, tossed the envelopes, so how is this resolved?


Best case, the Republican controlled legislature in PA says that because of all the problems with the vote it can't be verified and they pick their own Trump friendly electors. It's the Constitutional proscribed route.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (ZLI7S)

117 >>> 94 I really don't understand why voting software would ever allow a *transfer* function.

Shouldn't the emphasis be on getting it right the *first* time?

If you admit that on a software system you might somehow get votes wrong and have to *transfer* them to another candidate, you're admitting the software is not there yet, aren't you?
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:15 PM (FYe3W)

Depends on what you mean by getting it "right".

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (02b6n)

118 They didn't expect to lose down ballot and didn't have the time when they realized messing with the electronic counting for the night wasn't going to be enough to overcome Trump's margin of victory the point they started old school ballot stuffing. If they hadn't resorted to ballot stuffing odds are no one would have done the statistical analysis to notice the 'glitches' with the vote counting machines.
Posted by: Oh no! Not the bees! at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (Pyy1X)

I suspect that this is more or less what happened.

I think those "in the know" (campaign workers, DNC higher ups, select people in the media) knew that the polls were bullshit and designed to suppress Trump votes, which is why they went all in on the GOTV effort, to the point where Uber and every other fucking app I have was sending me push notifications about voting.

I think they engaged in a higher then usual level of "normal" fraud, that no doubt included down ballot races.

However, I think at the last minute (say, around 11pm on election night) it became apparent that all of that was not enough. So they panicked and filled out as many ballots as they possibly could, and to be as efficient as possible, people on the ground started skipping voting for the down ballot people.

Probably wasn't coordinated to skip the down ballot people, it was probably decisions made on site when it became clear that they had to make up huge deficits in key states.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (UPoLF)

119 Alaska Congressman Don Young has COVID-19.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (VikfB)

120 I'm also still amazed that asshole simps for socialism who pushed the conspiracy theory that Trump was an asset of Vladimir Putin -- an actual Muscovian Candidate -- continue to get all finger-waggy about "conspiracy theories" that the Democrat Party, well known for committing voter fraud since the 19th century, actually committed voter fraud.

Posted by: Ace at 06:00 PM


They don't actually believe the noises coming out of their mouths, nor the words they commit to print.
We know it and they know we know it. It gives their micropenis's itty bitty boners.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (z79tQ)

121 55
interesting





Jack Posobiec @JackPosobiec



The Dominion Voting Systems was rejected 3 times by data experts
from the Texas Secretary of State and Attorney General for failing to
meet basic security standards

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:10 PM (sfhL4)

Interesting and false. I read the Texas report earlier today and Hannity touched on it an hour or so ago on the radio. The test eqpt had a failure and the software refused to install properly. Alot is being made of the language in the rejection documents, "the examiner reports raise concerns about whether the Democracy Suite...operates efficiently and accurately". There is a checklist in TX law that these machines must pass and if the demonstration doesn't address each item individually then that specific language is noted as a mark against. It doesn't mean the machines are inaccurate. I'll have to look to see the system they did go with, I bet there's more to that story as well. TX is a big contract.

https://www.sos.texas.gov/elections/ laws/dominion.shtml

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (IbxQb)

122 Well, I looked at the data this guy cites, and found every case of votes going down from one data point to the next. Most of them appear to simply be rounding errors.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (hOOi9)


Rounding errors? Rounding errors? In the real world, voters are integers there are no rounding errors using integers.

I call bullshit.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (AiZBA)

123 is it just me, or does it look more gop getting this


GOP Congressman Don Young, Longest-Serving Member Of House, Tests Positive For COVID-19

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (sfhL4)

124 Tonight I supp on hobo!





Posted by: simplemind at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM---Tonight we dine in Cleveland!!!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60_qngJfgTA

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (JUOKG)

125 Alaska Congressman Don Young has COVID-19.

Is he hospitalized? If not he's got the flu

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (Zmnko)

126 119 Alaska Congressman Don Young has COVID-19.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (VikfB)

___

OH MY GOD!!!
He will be sick for 3 days.
Wait what?

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (22mNy)

127 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - TRUMP WON! at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (Zz0t1)

128 They're political Terminators. They absolutely will not stop.

We're dealing with some seriously sick people.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM (HaL55)


This is correct

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (Rdf2P)

129 At this point, 'all' there is affidavits (which is most definitely evidence).

We have to be patient.


Posted by: hevelvarik at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (fLpTX)

Word.

Posted by: Billy Bagpipes Eating a Lil Debbie Snack Cake at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (YAr5m)

130 I'm sure the PA Secretary of State will be severely prosecuted for violating the law as an example and disincentive to others in the future.


/Ha, I kill myself! Wait, I think I'm hearing bagpipes ...

Posted by: ShainS at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (wl3Jc)

131 116 >>Ok, so the extension was illegal. They "wiped the hard drive" so to speak, tossed the envelopes, so how is this resolved?


Best case, the Republican controlled legislature in PA says that because of all the problems with the vote it can't be verified and they pick their own Trump friendly electors. It's the Constitutional proscribed route.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (ZLI7S)

I think our best case is tossing of mail-ins in corrupted areas(like philadelphia and detroit). That seems to be what the Trump legal team is aiming for, in which case Trump would just win the state outright.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (Zm+LZ)

132 Don't say they won, just because they achieved an election.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (pB6Gt)

133 >>>74 I think I'll hoist a drink in celebration, what with it being Friday and all.



Cold and rainy, oh and 428 homicides. The usual.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (/R5rs)

134 I am back to the point I'm bout ready to cuss.

Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (XhWtx)

135 I'd rather win this by the SC invalidating all the late votes than by relying on PA legislature to elect Trump-supporting EC voters. I wouldn't even trust an elected dog-catcher from PA after this.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (SScvq)

136 What has me actually hands shaking angry is Erick Erickson and Andrew McCarthy out there stating of course there is always some voter fraud, everyone knows that, but it is a conspiracy theory to think there is enough now to turn the vote for Trump.

In McCarthy's case, it was YOUR ACTUAL LITERAL REAL AND TRUE MOTHERFUCKING JOB YOU TOE SUCKING PIECE OF AMBERGRIS to prosecute voter fraud. Literally your job. This hand waving by a *spit* prosecutor *spit* about voter fraud would be breathtaking if it weren't for the fact that McCarthy has proven exactly who he is. That he dared to make money about how horrible it was what was done to Trump after calling all the people who were right about it crazies is just just just profanity fails.

Then there's Erickson who loves to wave around his I was an election law lawyer and I am more Godly than thou dick and who has a fucking radio show and has owned multiple conservative online media sites and when, exactly, during all that time was he out there warning about how there's election fraud every election? And what, exactly and specifically, did he do to stop it?

I have more respect for AOC than I do either of them. At least she's an honest whore.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (GbPPJ)

137 And Trump is getting a hearing in front of a Federal judge in PA about the two tier voting system the Democrats setup in PA.
..

Obama appointed judge.

Yes I know it's going up to SCOTUS.

Just saying get ready for short term L.
Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (DOvYl)

Obama judge, but federalist society judge with long "R" roots... so I call it a wildcard.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (+2xjH)

138 There ain't no way I come together with these evil people. There is going to be blood in the streets and Jukin going to be buying real estate.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (pw+jk)

139 I know I'm late to the AoS party this afternoon, but in browsing through today's posts, I came across this nugget of greatness:

Yes, this "man's" face looks like an aircraft carrier landing deck for sperm.

What a femmy troglodyte pussy.


I'm sorry, but that's likely the funniest fucking thing I've read on the internet in the history of ever.

I think I peed......

Posted by: Sponge - TRUMP WON! at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (Zz0t1)

140 Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (hOOi9)

If these are vote totals?

What the hell is a ROUNDING ERROR in a static count?

Vote totals should never DECREASE. They should, as a static count, only increase as more votes are reported.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

141
Sean Spicer isxactually not half bad as an opinion host.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (nw6Hr)

142 Ugh, that reply was to you.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (/R5rs)

143 >>I think our best case is tossing of mail-ins in corrupted areas(like philadelphia and detroit). That seems to be what the Trump legal team is aiming for, in which case Trump would just win the state outright.

So would my way. In PA, MI and GA.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (ZLI7S)

144 Cold and rainy, oh and 428 homicides. The usual.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (/R5rs)

Joe will out law homicides.

Not sure what death at the hands of others will be called, but it won't be homicides.

Posted by: Bete at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (Ojki1)

145 is it just me, or does it look more gop getting this

Husband, who is no tin foil hat wearer ,says he thinks they have been intentionally infected... At least the president and the ones around him

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (Zmnko)

146 TX didn't use Dominion, Trump won by a bigger margin than 2016.

PA used it, Trump lost PA, a state he won in 2016.

It's almost as if......nah. Can't be. That's conspiracy theory thinking.

Posted by: Asshoes at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (22mNy)

147 Comrades, what is this thanksgiving and christmas you speak of? Mere calendar days to be done away with in our new Year Zero with historic first woman of color president for life kommie-la heelsup.

Posted by: Cali Warden Noos'em at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (2T32u)

148 You think its entirely unimaginable that people used easily manipulatable machines to cheat?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:12 PM (UPoLF)


It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (IbxQb)

149 > Is he hospitalized? If not he's got the flu

COVID-19 isn't "flu".

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (VikfB)

150 Biden got 5 votes, round that up to 10. Now repeat x 100,000

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (1MXcp)

151 Hooooooly fuck.....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (7Y5nA)

152
Mark R. Levin@marklevinshow
5h

Roberts and the PA Supreme Court have created a mess



#ImpeachRoberts

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (sfhL4)

153 The difference between the left and the right is simple; they are willing to do anything to win, including inciting riots, burning down their own cities, and stealing elections. Any attempt to impeach Obama would have been met by riots in the streets. But what will the right do if the dems steal this election? Should anyone be afraid?

Posted by: iandeal at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (GC2N7)

154 Barrell

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (Zmnko)

155 People make fun of the slippery slope, but it is as inevitable as the
law of unintended consequences. Once people stood by and let these
unelected petty bureaucrats lock down businesses and institute other
Covid "laws" without any authority, did people really think those same
petty bureaucrats wouldn't keep extending their stolen authority?

---
Slippery slope *is* a logical fallacy. Simply because you can't prove that by moving in one direction you cannot help but advance beyond that.

But it also *describes* describes human behavior, as well as human expectations of behavior from other humans.

And the left knows it. This is why they speak against "emboldening the right" by simply conceding a point.

A lot of people, in general, are very bad at understanding what logical fallacies do.

"A lot of people believe X" is not in itself a logical fallacy. Especially if you've polled a lot of people and found out the majority of people believe X. That is analytical of the findings.

It only becomes Argumentum ad Populum when you argue that you can *establish* the proof of X because a lot of people believe it. When you try to *leverage* things from it, it becomes an invalid *form* of argument.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (FYe3W)

156 They're political Terminators. They absolutely will not stop.

We're dealing with some seriously sick people.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy



Rule 45 will stop them.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (439Zu)

157 but federalist society judge with long "R" roots... so I call it a wildcard.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (+2xjH)

Oh that's interesting. I wasn't aware.

Maybe we'll get a true legal ruling.

Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (DOvYl)

158 Toss the vote, revote, state legislator, House state delegation vote. This is The Way.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (Ux7rt)

159 Is there an 'edit' feature.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (7Y5nA)

160 129 At this point, 'all' there is affidavits (which is most definitely evidence).

We have to be patient.

Posted by: hevelvarik at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (fLpTX)

Word.
Posted by: Billy Bagpipes Eating a Lil Debbie Snack Cake at November 12, 2020 06:20 PM (YAr5m)

Just send it to my office.

Posted by: John Durham at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (NgKpN)

161 Vote totals should never DECREASE. They should, as a static count, only increase as more votes are reported.

They have to allow for inflation. Yeah... inflation.

Posted by: High School Economics at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (FZnQH)

162 Cannibal Bob, come hither

Posted by: barrel at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (2T32u)

163 Oh Bob...I'll miss you.

Posted by: Jordan61 - TRUMP WON at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (Ez6QX)

164 However, I think at the last minute (say, around 11pm on election night) it became apparent that all of that was not enough. So they panicked and filled out as many ballots as they possibly could, and to be as efficient as possible, people on the ground started skipping voting for the down ballot people.

Probably wasn't coordinated to skip the down ballot people, it was probably decisions made on site when it became clear that they had to make up huge deficits in key states.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (UPoLF)


Then feed that one stack of Biden only ballots through the machine a hundred times.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (/Dgcm)

165

Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot (D) on Thursday issued a stay-at-home advisory and called on residents to cancel their "traditional" Thanksgiving plans as part of an effort to combat the spread of coronavirus.

are people still cheering Biden?

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (sfhL4)

166 My provisional vote STILL hasn't been counted in PA.

Posted by: mpfs, I choose the light, I choose Trump! at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (79p/O)

167 >> Is there an 'edit' feature.

It's in the barrel.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (ZLI7S)

168 Enjoy the barrel Bob

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (/R5rs)

169 Quiet Man - I saw they were willing to accept ballots up until ii/17 for the 14th district. Whut?

I hope Oberweis uses his cash to pay for a recount AND AUDIT. If we are doing this, let's start chiseling away at the corruption in IL.

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (SScvq)

170 It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (IbxQb)



See! Your allegations of vote fraud have been discredited

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (1MXcp)

171 The difference between the left and the right is simple; they are willing to do anything to win, including inciting riots, burning down their own cities, and stealing elections. Any attempt to impeach Obama would have been met by riots in the streets. But what will the right do if the dems steal this election? Should anyone be afraid?

Posted by: iandeal at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (GC2N7)
---
Yes, the Dems pander to the emotional and recruit the more willful among us. This is consistent throughout the history of the party.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (FYe3W)

172 146 is it just me, or does it look more gop getting this

Husband, who is no tin foil hat wearer ,says he thinks they have been intentionally infected... At least the president and the ones around him
Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (Zmnko)

It's cause Republican science deniers don't BELIVE in MAKS!

Posted by: Karen the Hobo, Boulder CO at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (Ojki1)

173 Uh Oh Bob, better bring a snack.

Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (+ya+t)

174 > I think our best case is tossing of mail-ins in corrupted areas(like philadelphia and detroit). That seems to be what the Trump legal team is aiming for, in which case Trump would just win the state outright.

They could always go the Solomon route. Philly gets one (1) elector, Pittsburgh gets one (1) D elector, the rest of the state gets 18 R electors.

The Constitution lets them assign electors any way they damned well please, including spin-the-bottle and trial by combat.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (VikfB)

175 There is nothing Alito can do until he is formally advised of the violation. Either as a Motion to Show Cause or as a provision in the final remedy on the merits.

Posted by: Tommyboy at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (HU93f)

176 Uh Oh Bob, better bring a snack.
Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (+ya+t)

1,2,3...NOT IT!

Posted by: Jordan61 - TRUMP WON at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (Ez6QX)

177 *waves to Cannibal Bob*

Have fun being stormed by the Barrel!

Seriously, I need to stop stressing about this. I'm getting teh angina.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (GbPPJ)

178 174 Uh Oh Bob, better bring a snack.

Don't think it's safe to open your mouth in the barrel

Posted by: It's me donna at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (Zmnko)

179 There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.

If I were a betting man...

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (EgshT)

180 have fun in the barrel, cannibal bob

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (W2Pud)

181 119 Alaska Congressman Don Young has COVID-19.

Posted by: Helen Thomas at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (VikfB)

===

That sux. He's as old as Moses. Prayers.

Worst case. R gov Dunleavy chooses successor.

Posted by: jc at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (PuMKG)

182 >>>Joe will out law homicides


We'll hit 500 easy this year.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (/R5rs)

183 > It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable".

Are you a trained computer security expert?

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (VikfB)

184 Ok, now wait...
*backs away*
I didn't do that....Yes I pasted form WORD but then I got Pixy'd so just typed it in.
ITS PIXIES FAULT!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (7Y5nA)

185 The PA ruling is particularly good in that it means that SCOTUS will not have to rule on state law. They will be able to say that PA has declared these votes to be illegal. And since these illegal ballots were mixed with the others and we have no way of knowing how many illegal ballots there are, the only way to protect the rights of legitimate voters, we must declare all of the mail in ballots void. While this will disenfranchise legitimate voters, it is the fault of the state for violating their own law and ignoring our order the keep these ballots segregated.

Posted by: db at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (E0PSG)

186 Good grief! Again???

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (XxJt1)

187 YooHooooo Mr. Bob, I'd like to have a word with you.

Posted by: The Barrel at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (pw+jk)

188 COVID-19 isn't "flu".

-----

True.

COVID-19 isnt "motorcycle crash death" either.

You DO know that the CDC isnt even bothering yo track flu cases and deaths this season. Right?

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (nw6Hr)

189 Here's a Fun Fact.

The B-Side of the Human League's very first single ("Being Boiled) was a song called "Circus of Death."

In the song, a clown uses a drug to turn people to slaves. His influence keeps spreading as the circus moves across the country.

The name of the drug is "Dominion."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (l9m7l)

190 Ok, now wait...
*backs away*
I didn't do that....Yes I pasted form WORD but then I got Pixy'd so just typed it in.
ITS PIXIES FAULT!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (7Y5nA)


Uh. huh.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (GbPPJ)

191 IT WAS THE COVID!!!!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (7Y5nA)

192 It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (IbxQb)

Can you run votes through more than once? As the Whistleblower says they were doing?

ie, have one unreadable ballot half way through the stack, put it on top for the next run, but NOT reset the counter?

Posted by: John Durham at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (NgKpN)

193 174 Uh Oh Bob, better bring a snack.
Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (+ya+t)

...I'd advise avoiding the barrel in general, but especially if Bob didn't bring one.

Posted by: Karen the Hobo, Boulder CO at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (Ojki1)

194 >91 Ok, so the extension was illegal. They "wiped the hard drive" so to speak, tossed the envelopes, so how is this resolved?

Well, I can tell you that 'oh well, I guess they count then' aint it.

Posted by: hevelvarik at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (fLpTX)

195 It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (IbxQb)

Ah. Well, I encourage you to jump in to the rabbit hole that is the operators manual of the Dominion machines. The 4Chan autists have been deep diving in to the manuals for a few days, and have highlighted key sections (I don't have a link, sorry, but it is all over twitter and the more normal places on the internet now)

It's a bit shocking at how easy it would be to fake vote counts. And that's not even getting in to doing a few "test runs" ahead of time to come up with a "realistic" vote count, then just switching out the thumb drives at the last minute.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (UPoLF)

196 Hey, Bacon Wench!

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (XxJt1)

197 Geeze, Bob...

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (830x5)

198 Maybe this was asked above. If the action was illegal why aren't there charges filed against the SOS?

Posted by: Beartooth at November 12, 2020 06:28 PM (6yYEv)

199 >>> But the left -- and their NeverTrumper allies, who are increasingly indistinguishable from run of the mill partisan Democrats -- claim that, "Oh, sure, the left and NeverTrump are willing to burn the media's and all megacorporations' credibility to the ground, and let cities burn, just to Get Trump. But they'd never cheat at an election!"


There will also come the inevitable,

"Yes, yes, we burned it all down, set the world to flame, yes, we admit it now. It had to be done because of orange man bad, you see. But now, with all that unpleasantness over, [wipe hands of this motion] you can trust us now. [salesman grin]"

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2020 06:28 PM (l6b3d)

200 I'm not gonna say a word about Cannibal Bob being in the barrel. Nope. Not gonna do it. Wouldn't be prudent.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:28 PM (HaL55)

201 Oh, com'on now. Cannibal Bob is not up in the big leagues yet on barreling. We've had some posters who've duplicated the entire thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (WkPC9)

202 RunsRunsRuns
*feels the pull of the barrel*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (7Y5nA)

203 What has me actually hands shaking angry is Erick Erickson and Andrew
McCarthy out there stating of course there is always some voter fraud,
everyone knows that, but it is a conspiracy theory to think there is
enough now to turn the vote for Trump.



In McCarthy's case, it was YOUR ACTUAL LITERAL REAL AND TRUE
MOTHERFUCKING JOB YOU TOE SUCKING PIECE OF AMBERGRIS to prosecute voter
fraud. Literally your job.
---

Why would there ever be voter fraud if the fraudsters didn't think it could affect the outcome of the election?

Posted by: Methos at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (kOpft)

204 Eromero, c'mon over here and lets talk about shooting feral hogs.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (CKxoR)

205 Watching news from manila, they have typhoon and flooding. Video of people walking through chest high sewage contaminated water...wearing their soaking wet mask. F'me ....

Posted by: Ward at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (nzKWW)

206 Ok, now wait...
*backs away*
I didn't do that....Yes I pasted form WORD but then I got Pixy'd so just typed it in.
ITS PIXIES FAULT!





Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM


---

It's always somebody else's fault. I heard that 11,843,013 times when I was in recruiting for the Navy.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (JUOKG)

207 Can you run votes through more than once? As the Whistleblower says they were doing?

ie, have one unreadable ballot half way through the stack, put it on top for the next run, but NOT reset the counter?
Posted by: John Durham at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (NgKpN)

Others have said that R and D ballots were (illegally) segregated in some places.

How would we know if the R ballots were run through the machine, then "reset" (so none of them counted), and the ballots put aside and later shredded?

As far as an election observer would be able to see, every R vote was counted.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (UPoLF)

208 The Constitution lets them assign electors any way they damned well please, including spin-the-bottle and trial by combat.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (VikfB)

Wakanda?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (NgKpN)

209
ITS PIXIES FAULT!
Posted by: Cannibal Bob
----------

Jeebers, Bob...stop digging guy. You're gonna need the energy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (830x5)

210 @realDonaldTrump
"REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN"



Think I am gonna go ahead and believe this guy.


Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (3P/5p)

211 Bailiff, whack his pee pee!

Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (+ya+t)

212 Only thing Sundowner will outlaw will be butterscotch pudding for his after dinner.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (9sWOw)

213 Are you a trained computer security expert?





Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (VikfB)

Yes. Almost 30 years in the field. How about you?

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (IbxQb)

214 Oh, com'on now. Cannibal Bob is not up in the big leagues yet on barreling. We've had some posters who've duplicated the entire thread.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (WkPC9)


But enough about ace . . . .

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (GbPPJ)

215 sure, why not?

California Set to Reopen Strip Clubs Before Churches
Judge rules coronavirus lockdown violates free-speech rights

A California judge ordered San Diego to reopen strip clubs even as local officials crack down on churches.

San Diego Superior Court judge Joel R. Wohlfeil ordered the state to end any actions that prevent the clubs from "being allowed to provide live adult entertainment," according to the decision. The owners of two strip clubs argued that their business is legally protected speech guaranteed by the First Amendment--the same argument that churches have been making about their own services.

The judge's decision is not final as that in a full hearing, which will occur at the end of the month, but it temporarily allows the strip clubs to reopen for indoor services, as other institutions close.

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (sfhL4)

216 202
Oh, com'on now. Cannibal Bob is not up in the big leagues yet on
barreling. We've had some posters who've duplicated the entire thread.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (WkPC9)

well.....it was only once though.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (7Y5nA)

217 So is this evidence or nah?

@Rasmussen_Poll

A sworn affidavit under oath & under penalty of perjury by over 100 Michigan citizens is - over to you Decision Desk - "evidence" or not "evidence?" CC:
@FoxNews

100 sworn affidavits. Go read it.

https://tinyurl.com/y3abeoh9

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (ZLI7S)

218
*taps chin*

What happens if you ctl-c ALL, then paste THAT into Word, then copy and paste that into the blog.


Hmmmmm.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)

219 It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans

I can't figger out how to link the vid, but on NeonRevolt Gab groups, a gal has a 1 minutes video showing how she, without a key, can get admin control.

Posted by: MarkY at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (VkXr8)

220 The left reminds me so much of the Nazi concentration camp guard, who, when he was captured by US troops, defended his actions by pointing out that the Jews never fought back, so he knew what he did was justified.
As I remember, the U.S. troops didn't stop the prisoners from beating that particular SS guard to death with their shovels.

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (D+7Z3)

221 >>> 175 > I think our best case is tossing of mail-ins in corrupted areas(like philadelphia and detroit). That seems to be what the Trump legal team is aiming for, in which case Trump would just win the state outright.

They could always go the Solomon route. Philly gets one (1) elector, Pittsburgh gets one (1) D elector, the rest of the state gets 18 R electors.

The Constitution lets them assign electors any way they damned well please, including spin-the-bottle and trial by combat.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:25 PM (VikfB)


Someone here, I forget who, said that the Governor then has to agree. Is that right? Or just in the case if there's a split between the legislative bodies in a state?

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (l6b3d)

222 In McCarthy's case, it was YOUR ACTUAL LITERAL REAL AND TRUE
MOTHERFUCKING JOB YOU TOE SUCKING PIECE OF AMBERGRIS to prosecute voter
fraud. Literally your job.




this is at best, an awkward use of ambergris

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (4Jold)

223 We have to be patient.

Posted by: hevelvarik at November 12, 2020 06:11 PM (fLpTX)

I agree with you, and keep on praying!

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (WkPC9)

224 A California judge ordered San Diego to reopen strip clubs


Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (sfhL4)

Now THIS is a judicial ruling I can get behind!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (UPoLF)

225 Watching news from manila, they have typhoon and
flooding. Video of people walking through chest high sewage contaminated
water...wearing their soaking wet mask. F'me ....


Posted by: Ward at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM

---

Lived in Olongapo City Philippines for some time. Except for the mask part, that describes every single rainy season there.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (JUOKG)

226 > Yes. Almost 30 years in the field. How about you?

I've been programing since 1972.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (VikfB)

227 Like, they were banking the, like, votes so they would, like, earn interest. You like interest, right Boomer?

Posted by: High School Gen Z Economics at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (FZnQH)

228 Hey, Bacon Wench!
Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (XxJt1)

Creeper!

Posted by: Jordan61 - TRUMP WON at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (Ez6QX)

229 there's some tasty morsels awaiting you, Bob

Posted by: SHEP at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (R3uW8)

230 What happens if you ctl-c ALL, then paste THAT into Word, then copy and paste that into the blog.


Hmmmmm.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)
--------

I think you need to find out and let us know.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (/669Q)

231 wow, well, trump's tweets..eh?

Imagine if Dominion could be proved to do these things.

Even worse than hundreds of thousands of fraudulent mail-in ballots.

No wonder the left and fox wanted to censor him

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (Ux7rt)

232 *taps chin*

What happens if you ctl-c ALL, then paste THAT into Word, then copy and paste that into the blog.


Hmmmmm.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)



I feel confident in speaking for Cannibal Bob that you should do that in this thread.

Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (GbPPJ)

233 Can you run votes through more than once? As the Whistleblower says they were doing?



ie, have one unreadable ballot half way through the stack, put it on top for the next run, but NOT reset the counter?

Posted by: John Durham at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (NgKpN)


The Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it. It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (IbxQb)

234 Congressional seats are filled by special election, not appointment (that's senators - deriving from the original, much better arrangement, where senators were chosen by governors and legislatures, not directly elected).

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (OTzUX)

235 George Soros Looms Large Over Biden Transition
Soros employees help Biden transition team


Who owns Biden and the Dems more? China or Soros?

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (sfhL4)

236 I will be happy if we (in Michigan) can dump Peters as well as vote for Trump.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (FYe3W)

237 walking through chest high sewage contaminated water...wearing their soaking wet mask

Teh Covids is obviously gonna be the least of their worries.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (EgshT)

238 *fingers butthole*

Posted by: SCOTUS at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (WjGNl)

239 Trump pace,
Slow then all at once.

Posted by: DaveA at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (FhXTo)

240 George Soros Looms Large Over Biden Transition
Soros employees help Biden transition team
---
Well, he likes destroying economies.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (FYe3W)

241 Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (GbPPJ)

Wow! You sound...grumpy.

*hands a lemon bar and a shot of tequila through the USB port*

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (YAr5m)

242 lol, The Barrel ate Cannibal Bob !

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (zr5Kq)

243 If Trump loses this election, they are going to go after him with lawsuit after lawsuit so that no one ever again dares defy them.

Posted by: David H at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (c+dZW)

244 fuck me
Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:07 PM (W2Pud)

killmenow
Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:14 PM (W2Pud)


Wow! With offers like that, you're going to attract every psycho in North America!

Posted by: OneEyedJack at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (z79tQ)

245 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (7Y5nA)

You did that too? You're slipping.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (WkPC9)

246 Hmmmmm.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)





I feel confident in speaking for Cannibal Bob that you should do that in this thread.





Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (GbPPJ)

YES! fu that'll totally work!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (7Y5nA)

247 ...California Set to Reopen Strip Clubs Before Churches
Judge rules coronavirus lockdown violates free-speech rights...
Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (sfhL4)


Well how is that going to work because good king newsom is going full lockdown on San Diego County at 12:01 AM Saturday morning?

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (AiZBA)

248 hey, anybody here ever use geissele super duty rifles?

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (4Jold)

249 Any more on the rumor that Tucker is packing it in at Fox?

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (rCwaK)

250 > Someone here, I forget who, said that the Governor then has to agree.

Nope, the Governor gets no say in picking the slate.

If there are two competing legitimate slates, the one signed by the Governor does take precedence, but I do not foresee that the Supreme Court would count a slate passed by a minority as being in any way legitimate.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (VikfB)

251 A California judge ordered San Diego to reopen strip clubs





Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (sfhL4)



Now THIS is a judicial ruling I can get behind!


Priorities...they have them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (HaL55)

252 100 sworn affidavits. Go read it.

https://tinyurl.com/y3abeoh9
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (ZLI7S)
--------

*trots off obediently *

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (/669Q)

253 *taps chin*



What happens if you ctl-c ALL, then paste THAT into Word, then copy and paste that into the blog.





Hmmmmm.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)

====Then divide by zero.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (pw+jk)

254 Microbiologically, C19 isn't "flu", but it's an influenza-like-illness (ILI) - says so right on the label - and is from a family of viruses that make up other maladies like colds.

And in terms of public health, it sure isn't flu.

The IFR for healthy people under 60 is a fraction of the flu overall, and about disappears below 30. That is - it's much, much less deadly than flu for most of the population.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (OTzUX)

255 Rounding errors? Rounding errors? In the real world, voters are integers there are no rounding errors using integers.

I call bullshit.
Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 06:19 PM (AiZBA)

==========


If these are vote totals?

What the hell is a ROUNDING ERROR in a static count?

Vote totals should never DECREASE. They should, as a static count, only increase as more votes are reported.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

==========


I understand your concerns! Here's the problem.

Like I said, the data itself is "grainy", and the numbers I gave are DERIVED from them.

The idiots who created the datastream represent the vote counts with (1) the total vote for ALL candidates and (2) the "shares" for Trump and Biden, to THREE DIGITS. So a given vote count for, say, Trump, is only accurate to three decimal places.

That means that what you see on the TV screen is only that accurate too - it gives you digits down to the "ones" place, but it could easily be off by 1000, or more. It's ridiculous, and so trying to glean too much info from this is ridiculous too. I'm going to see if the other links he gives have more significant figures, but I doubt it.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (hOOi9)

256
California Set to Reopen Strip Clubs Before Churches
Judge rules coronavirus lockdown violates free-speech rights

A California judge ordered San Diego to reopen strip clubs even as local officials crack down on churches.

San Diego Superior Court judge Joel R. Wohlfeil ordered the state to end any actions that prevent the clubs from "being allowed to provide live adult entertainment," according to the decision. The owners of two strip clubs argued that their business is legally protected speech guaranteed by the First Amendment--the same argument that churches have been making about their own services.

The judge's decision is not final as that in a full hearing, which will occur at the end of the month, but it temporarily allows the strip clubs to reopen for indoor services, as other institutions close.
Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (sfhL4)

Boy, can't imagine why I fear we may be looking at Jerusalem 70 ad, and God responding in kind to the country for turning it's back on Him.

Posted by: Karen the Hobo, Boulder CO at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (Ojki1)

257 Others have said that R and D ballots were (illegally) segregated in some places.

How would we know if the R ballots were run through the machine, then "reset" (so none of them counted), and the ballots put aside and later shredded?

As far as an election observer would be able to see, every R vote was counted.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (UPoLF)

I think the real issue is that they re ran batches of ballots in the city that were known Democrat areas.

Which is why there was a much higher voter turnout, in those areas, than the rest of the State.

Voter turnouts normally run 55% to about 70%. The STATE is saying something like an 89% turnout State wide?

Hell, in California they sent everyone a ballot through the mail. All you had to do was fill it in and stick it back in the mailbox, and we only had a 55% voter turnout.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (NgKpN)

258 > The Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it. It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.

Then it's complete garbage.

Especially if, as some have alleged, it allows "software updates" over the net.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (VikfB)

259 "hey, anybody here ever use geissele super duty rifles?
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (4Jold)"

Yes they're GTG and Bill is a good guy.

Posted by: SCOTUS at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (WjGNl)

260 Some of those bodies in the barrel are way past the sell by date, Bob.

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz, Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (a4EWo)

261 > Yes. Almost 30 years in the field. How about you?

I've been programing since 1972.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (VikfB)


Sounds like a romance.

Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (377Zs)

262 158 but federalist society judge with long "R" roots... so I call it a wildcard.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (+2xjH)

Oh that's interesting. I wasn't aware.

Maybe we'll get a true legal ruling.
Posted by: Ha at November 12, 2020 06:23 PM (DOvYl)

Shipwrekedcrew at redstate did a thing on the judge today, and noted it's possible he was named in some horsetrading because of his ties to the area... because there was nothing in his backround signaling prog.

Posted by: Inogame - Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (+2xjH)

263 RE down ballot

- down ballot invites recount battles. It is like double parking to shoot strangers in the park (How Berkowitz got caught)

- No time to fix down ballot races since they were scrambling after losing FLA

- No information or correct ballots even for local races.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (LWu6U)

264 "Asshole Simps for Socialism"......

Describes the federal bureaucracy to a "T".



Posted by: Hairyback Guy at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (RPVE/)

265 Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (EgshT)
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Hello, my friend! All good?

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (/669Q)

266 218
*taps chin*

What happens if you ctl-c ALL, then paste THAT into Word, then copy and paste that into the blog.


Hmmmmm.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)

The Hampsters track you down and kill you?

And off deranged sock.

Posted by: Bete at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (Ojki1)

267 If the only way for me to go sit at a bar and have a beer is to have it with titties, then titties n beer it is.

Posted by: Ward at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (nzKWW)

268 I haven't seen anyone from Dominion rushing to their defense yet. One would think they would have a statement by now.

Posted by: Ben Had at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (CKxoR)

269 "hey, anybody here ever use geissele super duty rifles?
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (4Jold)"

Yes they're GTG and Bill is a good guy.
Posted by: SCOTUS



what is your reg nic?

I am familiar with their triggers but was unaware they were doing entire bang sticks.

I am interested.

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (4Jold)

270 The Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it. It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.
Posted by: Brian
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Hold it...is that the system that you are defending?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (bk3Sg)

271 Some of those bodies in the barrel are way past the sell by date, Bob.


Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz, Trump Won at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM

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Sage advice.

Posted by: Mister Scott (formerly GWS) at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (JUOKG)

272 OK, I'm out before the Formatting Monster gets me again.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (7Y5nA)

273 If Trump loses this election, they are going to go after him with lawsuit after lawsuit so that no one ever again dares defy them.
Posted by: David H at November 12, 2020 06:32 PM (c+dZW)


so next Republican president can do same to them ? I know many want to, including neverTrump, but if they go after him, they can do same to every Senator and Representative too, so Rpubs, while many would like the idea, would have to resist for their own safety

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (zr5Kq)

274 They're political Terminators. They absolutely will not stop.

We're dealing with some seriously sick people.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:16 PM

Hmm....I seem to recall how that movie ended for the Terminator.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (rBtIz)

275 >>>Imagine if Dominion could be proved to do these things.


USBs from Philly voting machines were stolen about a week before the election. No shenanigans there.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (/R5rs)

276 Trump Reaches Deal With All Major U.S. Pharmacies To Distribute COVID-19 Vaccine Totally Free

https://bit.ly/32AeGNx

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (+y/Ru)

277 Posted by: Karen the Hobo, Boulder CO at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (Ojki1)

The Eastern Orthodox Church spends a lot of time in their liturgy saying "Lord have Mercy". I'm not Eastern Orthodox but we can all make that part of our prayers.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (WkPC9)

278 Sure, big fun that Bob is in the barrel. Has anyone thought about MEEEE?! Who's going to make dinner?!

Posted by: Heidi at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (7Y5nA)

279 Some of those bodies in the barrel are way past the sell by date, Bob.

---
Yet, I'm pretty sure they all voted Biden.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (FYe3W)

280 If there's any packing it in to be done at Fox, allow me!

Posted by: Shep! will push in your stool like a gentleman at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (FZnQH)

281 Posted by: Cannibal Bob at November 12, 2020 06:21 PM (7Y5nA)

From the Cannibal Bob - Evening with Bob Cookbook -

Hobo Bobulicious

First - field dress your hobos appropriately, remove all clothes and hair as these contain vast quantities of lice - remove the liver and discard in a separate trash can due to size

Second - soak your hobos in lemon or lime juice to reduce the 'wild' taste, which basically consists of MD 2020 and Van Camp's beans.

Third - season your hobos appropriately, either in brine or salt, pepper, cayenne and chlorine.

Lastly, slow roast your hobos Cushion de Lait style in a pit or box with a lot of charcoal, wood chips and more chlorine as needed. Serve with roasted apple in each mouth...serve in a pile on newspaper or individually.

Posted by: Boswell at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (w2LAm)

282 Quiet Man - I saw they were willing to accept ballots up until ii/17 for the 14th district. Whut?



I hope Oberweis uses his cash to pay for a recount AND AUDIT. If we
are doing this, let's start chiseling away at the corruption in IL.





Posted by: Eli Cash at November 12, 2020 06:24 PM (SScvq)


He said he's going to fight it. He was up about 500 votes going into last weekend. And then like magic from Lake County 2,000 votes showed for Underwood to 900 for Oberweiss. The bigger problem is all of the collar counties around Crook County have been infested and are turning blue.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (xE3DQ)

283 That means that what you see on the TV screen is only that accurate too - it gives you digits down to the "ones" place, but it could easily be off by 1000, or more. It's ridiculous, and so trying to glean too much info from this is ridiculous too. I'm going to see if the other links he gives have more significant figures, but I doubt it.
Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (hOOi9)

but both the States, and the company that did said aggregation of data, have the raw data.

Which is what is needed for any reasonable data analysis.

And although not currently available on the web, I would 'guess' that some folks do have that data.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (NgKpN)

284 Especially if, as some have alleged, it allows "software updates" over the net.





Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (VikfB)


They don't. In Louisiana any updates are done via encrypted USB key that's paired to the voting machine. An employee from the state comes from Baton Rouge and touches every machine by hand if an update or reprogram is necessary. No locals are allowed to do it. The machines are delivered to the local Registrars office with numbered seals that prevent any tampering inside them. There are also tamper switches inside that record if they're opened.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (IbxQb)

285 Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM

So far, so good. Just working on keeping my anger over all of this in check. Thanks for askin' and how 'bout you?

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (EgshT)

286 I'm not Eastern Orthodox but we can all make that part of our prayers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (WkPC9)
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Great idea. That's what we need, the Lord's mercy.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (FYe3W)

287 "what is your reg nic?

I am familiar with their triggers but was unaware they were doing entire bang sticks.

I am interested.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (4Jold)"

It's me.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (WjGNl)

288 thanls

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:38 PM (4Jold)

289 >>> 205 Eromero, c'mon over here and lets talk about shooting feral hogs.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 12, 2020 06:29 PM (CKxoR)

*waves*

Ooooh, can I shoot hogs too??

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 12, 2020 06:38 PM (02b6n)

290 246 Hmmmmm.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (nw6Hr)





I feel confident in speaking for Cannibal Bob that you should do that in this thread.





Posted by: alexthechick - Boobs and hysteria at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (GbPPJ)

Do you get a cut of the Grubhub charge for forwarding the meal?

Posted by: Bete at November 12, 2020 06:38 PM (Ojki1)

291 "what is your reg nic?

I am familiar with their triggers but was unaware they were doing entire bang sticks.

I am interested.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (4Jold)"

His stuff is mil grade and being used in some DoD theaters.

Posted by: Marcus T at November 12, 2020 06:38 PM (WjGNl)

292 >>> If Trump loses this election, they are going to go after him with lawsuit after lawsuit so that no one ever again dares defy them.


Its why Trump needs to declassify everything and appoint a special prosecutor to investigate Biden.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:38 PM (/R5rs)

293 >>>The Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it. It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.



Knowing only that I would have to admit there is nothing else that can be discusses.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (/Dgcm)

294 lol @143 Cannibal Bob.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (KnJdm)

295 276 Trump Reaches Deal With All Major U.S. Pharmacies To Distribute COVID-19 Vaccine Totally Free

https://bit.ly/32AeGNx
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (+y/Ru)

Nothing is free.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (CBrBn)

296 Re dominion machines -

They can (OF COURSE) be easily manipulated with a software update. The head of R&D was on the counting floor in Detroit. They had months to work the fix. Dominion is connected to the Clintons.

Unless it is open source, or audited and verified with a hand count. it is TRIVIALLY easy to insert a line of code to rig the election.

But if you do that, there had better not be a manual count, so it had better be a big cheat, in many states.

OH SHIT, we might be close and Trump might sue - quick, get us more ballots to the swing states. Quick call up our people and tell them to stop counting. Quick or we all go to prison.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (LWu6U)

297 Regarding the PA numbers, there's also a place in the data, about half an hour into it, where Trump picks up 130,255 and Biden actually LOSES 88. That's similar to the suspicious-looking spike late in the WI counting, except this one's earlier on, and FOR Trump. It makes no sense.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (hOOi9)

298 If Trump loses this election, they are going to go after him with
lawsuit after lawsuit so that no one ever again dares defy them.


I don't think that's going to happen.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (HaL55)

299 @banana dream, there's no question that the Constitution assigns to the state legislature the task to create a process to select electors. In every state, they already have. In the hypothetical case where a legislature determines that the process they created has resulted in an answer that cannot be concluded to freely and fairly represent the will of the people, then the governor has nothing to do with it under the Constitution and the legislature has to act.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (+hd5N)

300 268 I haven't seen anyone from Dominion rushing to their defense yet. One would think they would have a statement by now.
Posted by: Ben Had at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (CKxoR)

They have a whole section on their site "debunking" "conspiracy theories."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (UPoLF)

301
His stuff is mil grade and being used in some DoD theaters.
Posted by: Marcus



I had heard that some of their parts were being used by the military.

I am giving them a try

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:40 PM (4Jold)

302 Re dominion


Those machines, and their software should all be impounded as evidence. Now.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at November 12, 2020 06:40 PM (LWu6U)

303 I wouldn't care if they paid me. Nobody is sticking me with COVID.

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2020 06:40 PM (XxJt1)

304 It would make me laugh if PA legislators ended up selecting electors because the dems cheated so damn much. Backfire!

Thing is, they might be pussies. Trump will have to have a convincing case for the PA landslide, not piddly stuff like a preponderance of evidence.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2020 06:40 PM (3fR4G)

305 Does anyone know if Georgia is doing a recount or an audit?

Posted by: President-Elect IrishEi at November 12, 2020 06:40 PM (sGotD)

306 Hold it...is that the system that you are defending?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (bk3Sg)


If "defending" is the word you want to use then yes. I'm saying I'd like to see some hard evidence. So far all we've got is innuendo because Trump didn't get enough votes in places these machines were used (ignoring the places Trump won handily that use the same system).
No system is perfect. The Dominion system is better than the old way. Paper ballots and stuffing the ballot box are much easier to defraud. If there was fraud in this election it was done with the paper ballots.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:40 PM (IbxQb)

307 Missed last post.

But my these is gonna be, as it is on everything until/unless it's reasonably demonstrated that the election was stolen, that *the electorate* is responsible here.

Not China.

Not Soros.

Not the Martian invaders.

It's part of the literally unbelievable scenario we just saw/might have seen.

The Dems stepped on every land mine the could find, including - incredibly - being reasonably seen as kinda "meh" on horrible riots and looting, nation-wide. Unbelievable.

Didn't matter. Just like nothing else mattered.

A candidate literally beyond the realm of parody, with no campaign - or events that also were implausibly weird and pathetic - and policy approaches that generally poll around 35%, *with no GOTV in key areas/states*, who was literally invisible and unheard, though he did manage to make some historic gaffes ("you ain't black"), beat one of the most effective and successful presidents in 100 years.

Who had supporters spontaneously creating events around the country, for months (never seen anything like this, it is unique in modern political history). And was above 50% in approval rating, and had historic high partisan approval rating and number of votes in an incumbent unopposed primary.

Part of the reason I hope that fraud is conclusively demonstrated, and even persuasively shown to have accounted for a material % of Joe's votes, is that I don't want America to be so far gone that my above description actually describes what happened.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (OTzUX)

308 The Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it. It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (IbxQb)
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I voted in Michigan. There was no touch screen in my district. You fill out a paper ballot and run it through a machine.

And it's still the same thing. The image stored is the ballot.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (FYe3W)

309 Does anyone know if Georgia is doing a recount or an audit?
Posted by: President-Elect IrishE




both

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (4Jold)

310 The manner in which the DJT campaign is pursuing these court filings, it's almost as if they knew the fraud plan before it happened...

Posted by: BluesFish at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (WQZ1O)

311 I have been conditioned by history to believe scotus will say, eh, move along, barely an inconvenience.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (r+sAi)

312 Trump Reaches Deal With All Major U.S. Pharmacies To Distribute COVID-19 Vaccine Totally Free

And we're giving away a free pack of Marlboros with each shot! Wait, wut?

Posted by: CVS at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (EgshT)

313 And since these illegal ballots were mixed with the others and we have no way of knowing how many illegal ballots there are, the only way to protect the rights of legitimate voters, we must declare all of the mail in ballots void. While this will disenfranchise legitimate voters, it is the fault of the state for violating their own law and ignoring our order the keep these ballots segregated.
Posted by: db

Stupid question: aren't the mail in ballots mixed in with the election day ballots? How would you pull out just the election day vote?

Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (GZ/yK)

314 One point to keep in mind is that the Dems used multiple methods to cheat as a defense against losing. They are hoping that the courts will look at the results of the single allegation and conclude that while cheating did occur, it didn't change the outcome of the election.

So you will see something like a reversal on the PA ballots after 8PM, PA will say, "Well that only changed 10K votes, so Biden still wins" and everyone will say "Let's move on".

At some point a court, probably SCOTUS, has to look at the totality of the fraud.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (5p7BC)

315 They don't. In Louisiana any updates are done via encrypted USB key that's paired to the voting machine. An employee from the state comes from Baton Rouge and touches every machine by hand if an update or reprogram is necessary. No locals are allowed to do it. The machines are delivered to the local Registrars office with numbered seals that prevent any tampering inside them. There are also tamper switches inside that record if they're opened.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (IbxQb)

Sounds like you're using a very different machine then those in question, at least by my reading of the owners manuals and the dozens of affidavits I've read from people in PA and MI.

They're talking about a machine that they refer to as a "tabulator."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (UPoLF)

316 Axeman, There are lot of great psalms about the Lord's mercy. I like to read the psalms everyday, and I'm not at all an expert on prayer, but as a Christian I like to say in my prayers "Have mercy on us for the sake of thy son Jesus Christ" .

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (WkPC9)

317 If there was fraud in this election it was done with the paper ballots.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans


I don't think you've been paying attention.

Posted by: t-bird at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (3fR4G)

318 if I were Texas, I'd just have to spit.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (pB6Gt)

319 Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at November 12, 2020 06:39 PM (+hd5N)

That happened one election.

So Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

Go look it up, its interesting.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (NgKpN)

320 >>At some point a court, probably SCOTUS, has to look at the totality of the fraud.

Which is why I've been saying I think Republican legislators will ultimately say the vote is hopelessly compromised and the legislature will choose the electors without it.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (ZLI7S)

321
I notice the covid19 pandemic is suddenly front and center again.

The election is looking more and more bleak for the dems daily, thus diversion while a strategy is formulated to counter this.

Posted by: irongrampa at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (KATBx)

322 So far, so good. Just working on keeping my anger over all of this in check. Thanks for askin' and how 'bout you?
Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (EgshT)
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Good. I hope you had a nice ride on your Harley over the weekend. I'm hanging in there. My husband had off yesterday so we took a nice drive out towards the mountains and had lunch in an old place by a river. It was great to get away and see some different scenery even though it rained the whole time!

I will not give up.

Posted by: bluebell at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (/669Q)

323 Meanwhile, in TX, the TX HR is desperate to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

Mr. Bonnen will not be Speaker at the end of the year because of his chicanery and dishonesty. So a new Speaker is needed. Enter Mr. Phelan from Beaumont, who insists he is Speaker-elect, and one of the ways he pulled that off is DEM support.

The Republicans are in the majority, 83-67, so they do not NEED to ask the Dems for ANY help to elect the Speaker.

Nevertheless, Mr. Phelan wants to invite the minority party to the table. Never mind the ass kicking they received in the past election. THIS is why the things that need to happen in TX, like reigning in property taxes and putting an end to taxpayer-funded lobbying, never happens here.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (CBrBn)

324 The discussion about Kim Klacik below reminded me of the other longshot R challenger, Joe Collins, who took on Mad Maxine Waters. He even used Kim's political commercial style to make the same points Kim did.

He got about the same result Kim did -- 27.7% to 72.3% for MadMax.

Even Trump didn't do too bad, 34 to 64. That's nearly 2.5% better than 2016.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (F0YaR)

325 One point to keep in mind is that the Dems used multiple methods to cheat as a defense against losing.

--->

It's like the parable of the clown being shot from a cannon at the circus...it's his first time so everyone wants him to do well, so everyone adds a little bit of gunpowder (or turns the spring loaded spring launcher thing a little tighter) throughout the run-up to the big event. Lauchning the clown through the tend.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (Ux7rt)

326 Lastly, slow roast your hobos Cushion de Lait style in a pit or box with
a lot of charcoal, wood chips and more chlorine as needed. Serve with
roasted apple in each mouth...serve in a pile on newspaper or
individually.

I heard there's a 55 gallon drum sioux vide recipe coming out soon.

Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (+ya+t)

327 Brian in New Orleans

Have you read the Codemonkey tweets?
He's been reading the instruction manual, and REALLY wants to look at the code.
He insists there are many methods for "weighting" the count... as in 1 for you, 1.2 for me.
Trigger points, things like that.
I'd be interested in your take.

Posted by: MarkY at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (VkXr8)

328 The Eastern Orthodox Church spends a lot of time in their liturgy saying "Lord have Mercy". I'm not Eastern Orthodox but we can all make that part of our prayers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

I'm looking more for an Old Testament God these days. Fire! Brimstone! Hellfire!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (+y/Ru)

329 So, has any Top Stats leftbot attempted to dispel the numerical evidence yet?

Posted by: Almost like a dingo barking at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (BBWrU)

330 Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:30 PM (ZLI7S)

Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (9UmRs)

331 I meant spit on the ground, I'm not a murderer.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (pB6Gt)

332 Part of the reason I hope that fraud is conclusively demonstrated, and even persuasively shown to have accounted for a material % of Joe's votes, is that I don't want America to be so far gone that my above description actually describes what happened.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (OTzUX
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I'm a lot the same way.

However, you're talking about a Presidential candidate who has about 90% from his own party, and was attracting non voters and Dems to his rallies.

The votes in Wayne county show that even where there weren't many straight Pub voters, he go some of the votes in the deepest part of the city.

I'm not for wishcasting about stuff that I don't know either. So, all I can hope is the the silver falls out of the Democrat coat with a crash for all to see. (Lord have mercy).

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (FYe3W)

333 316-Here are some psalm selections calling on God's mercy:

https://tinyurl.com/y3ejc67r

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (WkPC9)

334 Can you run votes through more than once? As the Whistleblower says they were doing?

ie, have one unreadable ballot half way through the stack, put it on top for the next run, but NOT reset the counter?
Posted by: John Durham at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (NgKpN)


explained by a Dominion contractor, see video at link. She explains exactly how this is done and that she witnessed it.

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if you haven't seen this snippet, watch it, it is short

President-Elect Maria Sederholm
@Wordofbeak

Melissa, a Dominion contracter who witnessed #ElectionFraud when working in Detroit Michigan, was scheduled to appear on @seanhannity but @FoxNews canceled 30 min before the show so she talked to RedPill78 instead.

WATCH! SHARE!
Link below.


https://tinyurl.com/y5hnepfl

so, so much fraud

h/t the last refuge

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (sfhL4)

335 320 >>At some point a court, probably SCOTUS, has to look at the totality of the fraud.

---> and they may kick it to the House or to the individual state legislators.

Ultimately, when an election is this close and this important, strange shizz can happen

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (Ux7rt)

336 I'm looking more for an Old Testament God these days. Fire! Brimstone! Hellfire!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks



Dear God,
Less cheek turning. Moar smiting.
Amen.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (439Zu)

337 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (ptqGC)

338 Which is why I've been saying I think Republican legislators will ultimately say the vote is hopelessly compromised and the legislature will choose the electors without it.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:43 PM (ZLI7S)

Yes, they peed in the punch bowl. There's no drinking any of that punch now!

Posted by: Gaelic Girl at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (5FCda)

339 Ben Had @ 204- How many of the porcine persuasion have you turned into tasty meat? Mrs. E shot a 40 lb gilt pig Sunday morning with a .270. Her .223 setup like like the one you have was missing the optic but it got Fedexed back today. We already ate some and it's perfect. And oh yeah, I got an 8 pt buck about 180 lbs Sunday afternoon so we were butchering meat until midnight.

Posted by: Eromero at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (XhWtx)

340

What will happen to the Space Force.
Trump must win!

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (sfhL4)

341 I'm not Eastern Orthodox but we can all make that part of our prayers.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:36 PM (WkPC9)
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Great idea. That's what we need, the Lord's mercy.
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM

Which is why we ask for it constantly in the liturgy and in our prayers.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (rBtIz)

342 It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM (IbxQb)
~~~~~

Have you watched Dr. Shiva's video that JackStraw linked yesterday?

Posted by: President-Elect IrishEi at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (sGotD)

343 >>Yes. Almost 30 years in the field. How about you?

I've been programing since 1972.

Posted by: President-Elect Rodrigo Borgia at November 12, 2020 06:31 PM (VikfB)

Sounds like a romance.
Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at November 12, 2020 06:34 PM (377Zs)


As a friend said of the folks over at R&D, "It's OK as long as they don't mate."

Posted by: Caliban at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (QE8X6)

344 >>>Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.


In Philly its almost always true. Facts don't care about race

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (/R5rs)

345 Yes, they peed in the punch bowl. There's no drinking any of that punch now!
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at N

--->

yeah, I don't think the "we cheated so much, we exceeded the recount threshold" is really a strong argument

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (Ux7rt)

346 Quiet man - Maybe Oberweis will be able to uncover all the fraud going on in the collar counties and get these votes reviewed? The turnout in DuPage was 75%. That is really hard to believe. by 5:00 in my polling place a whopping 250 had voted. Normally the turnout is WAAAY lower than that.

A guy can dream, can't he?

Posted by: Eli Cash at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (SScvq)

347 I voted in Michigan. There was no touch screen in my district. You fill out a paper ballot and run it through a machine.



And it's still the same thing. The image stored is the ballot.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (FYe3W)


That's essentially an optical scanner and imaged ballots should be easy to audit. I think the Dominion system offers optical scanners for that purpose too, I'm just not familiar with them.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:46 PM (IbxQb)

348 "directly" - I don't think that word means what some people think it means. A Rube Goldberg machine does nothing "directly".

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (/Dgcm)

349
I notice the covid19 pandemic is suddenly front and center again.

The election is looking more and more bleak for the dems daily, thus diversion while a strategy is formulated to counter this.



Yes. Now it's "PANDEMIC, GOOD THING TRUMP LOST."

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (oVJmc)

350 This is a Coup, its really as Simple as that.
Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?

Posted by: It wasnt Me at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (xT+ue)

351 Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (9UmRs)

Yeah, I've been predicting since the election that the race card would be pulled.

But, fine, let's settle this once and for all -- full and honest recount, let's reconstruct everything that happened on election day in "black cities" and see if the results turn out exactly the same.

There's no reason they wouldn't right?

Then, once we know that there was no election fraud at all, we will apologize and move on.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (UPoLF)

352 >>Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.

Well that's novel. I'm not accusing black, I'm accusing the corrupt Democrat party. All colors, genders and shapes.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (ZLI7S)

353 If you're free next weekend and can get to NM:

http:// www.bluesteelranch.co/ courses.html

(scroll down)

Precision Rifle 1
November 20-22

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (02b6n)

354 I just hope Trump had a plan and that assets were in place.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (R3tU+)

355 Axeman, There are lot of great psalms about the Lord's mercy. I like to read the psalms everyday, and I'm not at all an expert on prayer, but as a Christian I like to say in my prayers "Have mercy on us for the sake of thy son Jesus Christ" .
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (WkPC9)
---
I'm just saying that we don't merit being saved from the machinations of Democrats. But perhaps the Lord can throw a little more unmerited grace our way.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (FYe3W)

356 You, know, it's sort of macabre watching the final episodes of Jeopardy with the knowledge that Alex Trebek has joined the choir invisible.

Sort of a metaphor of our times.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (Q5tBW)

357 Part of the reason I hope that fraud is conclusively
demonstrated, and even persuasively shown to have accounted for a
material % of Joe's votes, is that I don't want America to be so far
gone that my above description actually describes what happened.

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (OTzUX)


Thank you, rhomboid.
I've tried to step away and look at this dispassionately. When I do, it appears nothing short of insane.

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2020 06:48 PM (XxJt1)

358 but both the States, and the company that did said aggregation of data, have the raw data.

Which is what is needed for any reasonable data analysis.

And although not currently available on the web, I would 'guess' that some folks do have that data.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (NgKpN)


That would at least eliminate the rounding problem.

I would guess that some of these crazy gyrations could be, for example, if they had some problem with the count in a big county, and decided to delete it and start over. Who the hell knows what they're doing?

The total count goes from 1,111,586 down to 774,021, then back up to 1,325,632, then immediately down to 739,443. It takes almost an hour to inch back up to 1.3M. Crazy stuff.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:48 PM (hOOi9)

359 Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.


Numbers are racist, man.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2020 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

360 I will not give up.

Neither shall I. Glad to hear you are hanging in there, as well. Thank you.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at November 12, 2020 06:48 PM (EgshT)

361 337 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2020 06:45 PM (ptqGC)

WTH? The world has officially jumped the shark.

Posted by: Marybeth at November 12, 2020 06:48 PM (4pK1/)

362 Yes, they peed in the punch bowl. There's no drinking any of that punch now!
Posted by: Gaelic Girl at N

---
Unless Joe is thirsty.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (FYe3W)

363 It is my position that Brian in New Orleans, like Boulder t'hobo, and BSG, is, and always has been, simply a stealth troll.


Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (D+7Z3)

364 Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?



Nothing.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (zr5Kq)

365 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (+y/Ru)

I think of it as mercy to save us from godless, faith hating, Communists.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (WkPC9)

366 So Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

Go look it up, its interesting.
Posted by: Romeo13
--------
Which is arguably unconstitutional, but never tested, obviously.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

367 337 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg
Posted by: Jane D'oh



2020, man. So, tsunami's on the East and West coast along with the Yellowstone Caldera blowing a hole in the middle of the county should be up next, right? I mean really, who'd be surprised.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (bj91f)

368 Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.


Numbers are racist, man.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 12, 2020 06:48 PM (oVJmc)
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Because math and rigor are.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (FYe3W)

369 Its not just the voting machines to be concerned about. They feed databases that are completely accessible on the web and actually reside in Europe for crissakes. Its a complete clustefuck.

Posted by: Ward at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (nzKWW)

370
Well that's novel. I'm not accusing black, I'm accusing the corrupt Democrat party. All colors, genders and shapes.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (ZLI7S)

No. This drives me nuts. They purposely do this fraud in black areas (where turn out is probably organically pretty low, but population is high), and use black election workers to pull off the fraud so that any time anyone asks too many questions, they can pull the race card.

It's bullshit. We need to call them on it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (UPoLF)

371 324 The discussion about Kim Klacik below reminded me of the other longshot R challenger, Joe Collins, who took on Mad Maxine Waters. He even used Kim's political commercial style to make the same points Kim did.

He got about the same result Kim did -- 27.7% to 72.3% for MadMax.

Even Trump didn't do too bad, 34 to 64. That's nearly 2.5% better than 2016.
Posted by: GnuBreed at November 12, 2020 06:44 PM (F0YaR)

My tip o' the hat to Mr. Collins for having the guts to try.

Yeah, idiots will infest the system, unfortunately. But they should not go unchallenged.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (CBrBn)

372 They're talking about a machine that they refer to as a "tabulator."

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (UPoLF)

That's an optical scanner. I found the Dominion proposal to Georgia and posted it in an earlier thread. I think it goes into specifics about those. If an image of the original ballot is preserved that would make it harder to cheat, not easier. The claims I'm addressing are with reprogramming the Imagecast machines to report a vote for a different candidate than was selected, or reports that somehow servers in Spain are used for counting, or votes were added electronically. These are just silly.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (IbxQb)

373 Levin has been telli ng of a case in 1960s in Chicago, the vast amount of fraud took 2 years to be uncovered using the whole FBI and assets besides.

Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (9sWOw)

374 @367
We just need SMOD and Cthulu and the circle will be complete.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (Q5tBW)

375 Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?

Nothing.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (zr5Kq)
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What should we do?

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (FYe3W)

376 Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.

----------

I see this as a good sign

Posted by: matt foley at November 12, 2020 06:51 PM (+fqBB)

377 Inslee is going to make an address this evening to the state.

how much do you want to bet he locks us down again.

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:51 PM (W2Pud)

378 It is my position that Brian in New Orleans, like Boulder t'hobo, and BSG, is, and always has been, simply a stealth troll.
===============================
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He is here to piss on the camp fire. And then stand around saying "What's that smell?"

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin Super Spreader of Bullshit at November 12, 2020 06:51 PM (7Fj9P)

379 >>>>It is my position that Brian in New Orleans, like Boulder t'hobo, and BSG, is, and always has been, simply a stealth troll.


I stated that about 2 years ago.

Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (UFgOG)

380 16
Leftists and "conservative" media keep saying if Dems cheated then why didn't they cheat for house races too?



And the answer is simple.



The powers that be who control shit don't really care about the
house. Whether RINOs win or Pelosi stooges win the result is the same.
More spending, more borrowing, more favors to big tech, more unlimited
illegal immigration for cheap labor.



Trump is the only one that mattered and had to be defeated. He was the only one getting in the way.

Posted by: Asshoes
They did cheat for house races, but they didn't have time to do the overngiht mail vote dump for them. A full audit will show the GOP took the house with five to spare.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (LBiyC)

381 I have been conditioned by history to believe scotus will say, eh, move along, barely an inconvenience.

Remember that time when all those elected Dem officials/former appointees/former flag officers got charged, arrested, perp-walked, and jailed?


Yeah me neither.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (3P/5p)

382 Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?

Nothing.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (zr5Kq)
---
What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman


Burn this motherfucker down.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (439Zu)

383 356 You, know, it's sort of macabre watching the final episodes of Jeopardy with the knowledge that Alex Trebek has joined the choir invisible.

Sort of a metaphor of our times.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (Q5tBW)

I stayed away for that reason.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (CBrBn)

384 Levin has been telli ng of a case in 1960s in Chicago, the vast amount of fraud took 2 years to be uncovered using the whole FBI and assets besides.
Posted by: Skip at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (9sWOw)
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It's funny because fascism has never happened here in America, and yet we're warned about its emergence all the time.

Election fraud *has* happened here, and yet it doesn't exist.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (FYe3W)

385 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg
Posted by: Jane D'oh

Father Time has not been kind to her! She was never a great beauty but she was kind of cute. Now [shudder].

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (+y/Ru)

386 What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (FYe3W)


you tell me

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (zr5Kq)

387 Lin Wood on teh Twitter 53 m ago:

"To Yang and Hollywood Communists who plan to visit Georgia, enjoy our beautiful state. Oh, and one more thing. If you are just coming to GA to fraudulently vote in Senate runoff election, you might stay longer than you expected. In a GA prison. Enjoy Georgia! #FightBack Against Voter Fraud."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (ptqGC)

388 366 So Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887.

Go look it up, its interesting.
Posted by: Romeo13
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Which is arguably unconstitutional, but never tested, obviously.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

So would a Legislature, Ex Post Facto, changing the Law to select Electors, AFTER election day.

Because why even have an election then, if a Legislature can just do whatever it wills?

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (NgKpN)

389 https://bit.ly/2H1PoAo
********
FIRE HIM NOW! Rogue General Mark Milley Threatens President: "We Do Not Take an Oath to King or Queen, a Tyrant or Dictator"

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (8RJyI)

390 aww, that's cute, watching the mcKinney video and Youtube realyl wants you to know that the AP...yes THE AP...called the election already

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (Ux7rt)

391 All of the Dominion bid documents for Georgia can be found here: https://sos.ga.gov/securevoting/

That's not the RFI I linked earlier today, still looking for it.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (IbxQb)

392 He is here to piss on the camp fire. And then stand around saying "What's that smell?"
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin



what this says about you is you build your fires too small

Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (4Jold)

393 That's an optical scanner. I found the Dominion proposal to Georgia and posted it in an earlier thread. I think it goes into specifics about those. If an image of the original ballot is preserved that would make it harder to cheat, not easier. The claims I'm addressing are with reprogramming the Imagecast machines to report a vote for a different candidate than was selected, or reports that somehow servers in Spain are used for counting, or votes were added electronically. These are just silly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (IbxQb)

Sure, well, we shall see what exactly transpired by comparing the images of every ballot, that I'm sure are all preserved, with the actual physical ballots. Shouldn't be a problem, right?

Also, why is it silly to think that there is a person in this country capable of programming digital voting machines to change the totals?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (UPoLF)

394 342 It's my position that the Dominion Imagecast machines are not "easily manipulatable". I've worked with them for 7 or 8 elections in the past couple years. There are 3 still in my office right now for a run-off in a few weeks.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:22 PM

191 From April 2020 (WSJ): By modifying a few lines of code on a Dominion Voting machine's memory card this data-security expert could change results of a mock election. Same model used in 2020 election. Dominion said weaknesses fixed, Harri Hursti said they weren't. https://tinyurl.com/yy8lm6bj
Posted by: Of course, then the fear was "Russians" at November 12, 2020 05:21 PM

167 "This image-cast evolution voting machine (Dominion) has the physical ability to mark votes onto the ballot after the last time the voter sees the ballot. And that's a disaster... " - Princeton comp. science prof Andrew Appel https://tinyurl.com/yyvdo34c
Posted by: Disaster for you, Profit for me! at November 12, 2020 02:18 PM

And go to Appel's webpage for more information. He's a (very) serious researcher in the voting security field. http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~appel/

Posted by: There's always a loophole(s) at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (BBWrU)

395 we need a SMOD post, maybe?

Posted by: spypeach at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (Up/Jb)

396 What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (FYe3W)

you tell me
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (zr5Kq)
---
I can tell you what I'm going to do: wait on the Lord.

That might not work for you.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (FYe3W)

397 "To Yang and Hollywood Communists who plan to visit Georgia, enjoy our beautiful state. Oh, and one more thing. If you are just coming to GA to fraudulently vote in Senate runoff election, you might stay longer than you expected. In a GA prison. Enjoy Georgia! #FightBack Against Voter Fraud."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at N

---> I wonder if there are any hollywood or NYC types who did just that and bragged about it on social media.
hmm....

Posted by: official redcheckmark at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (Ux7rt)

398 What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (FYe3W)

you tell me
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (zr5Kq)


*touches nose with finger*

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (AiZBA)

399 What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman


Burn this motherfucker down.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (439Zu)

Make various state capitals and DC look reminiscent of Prague 1989.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (CBrBn)

400 >It is my position that Brian in New Orleans, like Boulder t'hobo, and BSG, is, and always has been, simply a stealth troll.


I stated that about 2 years ago.
Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (UFgOG)
******
YEP

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (8RJyI)

401 Burn it down.


Scatter the stones.


Salt the earth where it stood.


*with a nod to AllenG*

Posted by: creeper at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (XxJt1)

402 Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?

Nothing.
Posted by: runner
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Tell us your plans.

Posted by: BluesFish at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (WQZ1O)

403 Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (UPoLF)

Everyone on here mocked me on the last thread when I said our legislature wants to, demands, whatever, audit the ballots in MI.

I am optimistic.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (9UmRs)

404 377 Inslee is going to make an address this evening to the state.

how much do you want to bet he locks us down again.
Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:51 PM (W2Pud)

Your fellow denizens voted for it.

And I say that as someone who lives in a states whose denizens voted for the governor who just tried the same thing- though his EO was ball less and most asked we shelter and die in place, rather than having any legal force to back it up.

Posted by: Bete at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (Ojki1)

405 87
willowed:
The problem I have with the PA ruling is that how do we know that they

separated the ballots they were supposed to separate. As in, all these

Trump votes over here were late. Maybe they never opened the envelopes.

But we don't know, because there is no transparency.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk
They phoned or emailed the Democrats. There's records of that.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (LBiyC)

406 but both the States, and the company that did said aggregation of data, have the raw data.

Which is what is needed for any reasonable data analysis.

And although not currently available on the web, I would 'guess' that some folks do have that data.
Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:37 PM (NgKpN)


One thing I worry about is that the screwball stuff in the time series is mostly because some civil servant is typing numbers in wrong somewhere, then it looks screwball when they fix it. Picture monkeys typing on a typewriter, while the whole nation hangs on what is written.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (hOOi9)

407 Sometimes I step back, pause, and look at it all.

We are discussing a stolen election.

An election involving a demented crook who's family's criminal acts were so widespread, obvious and overflowing they spilled out of a laptop repair shop.

That we've been muzzled for most of the year from managed and cultivated hysteria.

That we had cities burn across the land from attacks by domestic terror mobs.

There's other stuff, widespread suppression of speech. Constant propaganda, stuff I can't remember or don't want to.

There are so many layers to that craziness-onion. The left really did go all out. Is this a sign that the left were on the ropes and 2020 was a desperate response to what they thought was an existential threat? Or that we already reached the tipping point and the left is unchallenged and can do whatever they want? Either way, 2020 was a major inflection point in history.

Posted by: banana Dream at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (l6b3d)

408 399
What should we do?

Posted by: Axeman





Burn this motherfucker down.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (439Zu)



Make various state capitals and DC look reminiscent of Prague 1989.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (CBrBn)


A good start.

Posted by: Just the Punchline at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (KnJdm)

409 When I watch Hollywood movies that show pissing in a hot radiator, or mortar tube, I can almost smell it. Which is non good.


I went the extra mile to throw in Hollywood cause... morons. Nipped it the bud.

Posted by: nip at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (cpS4u)

410 >>Rogue General Mark Milley Threatens President: "We Do Not Take an Oath to King or Queen, a Tyrant or Dictator"


Give him a Cigarette, a Blindfold and a Bullet.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (7alNQ)

411 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg
Posted by: Jane D'oh

What? My shocked face, *head blowing up*. Are we sure that's not a body double? Holy cow.

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (Kbzcz)

412 Everyone on here mocked me on the last thread when I said our legislature wants to, demands, whatever, audit the ballots in MI.

I am optimistic.
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (9UmRs)

We'll see.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (UPoLF)

413 382 Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?

Nothing.
Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (zr5Kq)
---
What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman


Burn this motherfucker down.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (439Zu)

My favorite!

Posted by: Winnie the Pooh at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (nakwk)

414 I don't think Boulder Hobo is a stealth troll. I think either he stopped posting and somebody took his handle, or it is the same poster but he just got completely freaked out about COVID that this is all he talks about, which is a shame because he's quite an interesting, very smart guy..

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (WkPC9)

415 What should we do?
Posted by: Axeman


Burn this motherfucker down.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (439Zu)

Make various state capitals and DC look reminiscent of Prague 1989.
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33


Dresden '45.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 06:56 PM (439Zu)

416 @407
As has been said, we are a banana republic without bananas.

Also, Lauren Graham in early Gilmore Girls is a total smoke show.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2020 06:56 PM (Q5tBW)

417 366 So Congress passed the Electoral Count Act of 1887.
Go look it up, its interesting.
Posted by: Romeo13

Which is arguably unconstitutional, but never tested, obviously.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (5p7BC)

Same with the 1947 Succession Act for that matter. (And one of the bodies, I think the Congressional Research Office or something, opined in the early 2000s that it was most likely not)

Posted by: Sorry Nancy, you're not an Officer. at November 12, 2020 06:56 PM (BBWrU)

418 Here is the big question: Is the PA legislature more or less squishy than the FL legislature in 2000?


Because FL voted for a special session to chose electors in 2000

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 12, 2020 06:56 PM (aO8Gd)

419 I'm addressing are with reprogramming the Imagecast machines to report a vote for a different candidate than was selected, or reports that somehow servers in Spain are used for counting, or votes were added electronically. These are just silly.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:50 PM (IbxQb)

Might want to go look at the allegations about Hammer and Scorecard.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (NgKpN)

420 They used to call me the Tabulator.

Cynthia McKinney, dubbed by Boortz as the cutest little commie in Congress.

Posted by: Tab Hunter at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (cd+cj)

421 >>Our execrable AG in MI of course has pulled out the race card, saying whites are always accusing blacks of voter fraud.

Well that's novel. I'm not accusing black, I'm accusing the corrupt Democrat party. All colors, genders and shapes.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:47 PM (ZLI7S)


AG obviously was not around for the Jill Stein recount that started in Detroit. Or she is lying.

I will take lying.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (/Dgcm)

422 And Jack Straw thanks for the news of the 100 signed affidavits in MI.

Aren't signed affidavits considered evidence in court?

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (9UmRs)

423 Your fellow denizens voted for it.



And I say that as someone who lives in a states whose denizens voted
for the governor who just tried the same thing- though his EO was ball
less and most asked we shelter and die in place, rather than having any
legal force to back it up.

Posted by: Bete at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (Ojki1)

Yep. They voted for it. They have learned nothing. I hope they get it good and hard. I will minimize the impact the state has on me.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (KnJdm)

424 As has been said, we are a banana republic without bananas.

Also, Lauren Graham in early Gilmore Girls is a total smoke show.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at November 12, 2020 06:56 PM (Q5tBW)
---
Imitation Banana Republic.

But the real bananas are on order.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (FYe3W)

425 TAKE HEART

TRUMP HAS GOT THIS.

He's already hooked the fish, he's just feeding it line to sink the hook in deeper. When the time is ripe, he will reveal the Democrats for the treasonous bastards they are.

Posted by: barney rubble at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (D2wY0)

426 411 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg
Posted by: Jane D'oh

What? My shocked face, *head blowing up*. Are we sure that's not a body double? Holy cow.
Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (Kbzcz)

No. Can't be. What? No way.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (nakwk)

427 Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Re- BtH, I have met him in meatspace. He didn't come off as crazy a few yrs ago.

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (Kbzcz)

428 In their minds, they're not even stealing the election. As far as they are concerned, the President should be the national popular vote winner. If they have to cheat a little, or a lot, in order to get the 'correct' Electoral College outcome, then so be it.

Posted by: Paul at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (PMxE5)

429 If someone believes that Trump is a Nazi leading a 70,000,000 strong Nazi movement then it is their duty as an American and as a human being to cheat/lie/steal to stop them. Anything else would be evil.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (BJKQV)

430 Are there any other opera fans here? Gounod's Faust and Boito's Mefistofele are two classic operas about how the devil walks among us directing traffic and causing havoc both with impressionable groups and individual weaklings-- with tragic results. I have been thinking about that a lot recently and believe that Satan is very active right now.

Posted by: corn and beans at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (tkNkP)

431 Tell us your plans.
Posted by: BluesFish at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (WQZ1O)


Invest in banana futures.

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (zr5Kq)

432 418 Here is the big question: Is the PA legislature more or less squishy than the FL legislature in 2000?


Because FL voted for a special session to chose electors in 2000
Posted by: RoyalOil at November 12, 2020 06:56 PM (aO8Gd)

That's going to be a difficult thing for anyone to evaluate, but overall is the Republican party more squishy in 2000 or now? I would argue that Trump has done some serious work on the party.

Posted by: Warlord Someguy - General Who Pacifies The East and West at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (Zm+LZ)

433 >>Rogue General Mark Milley Threatens President: "We Do Not Take an Oath to King or Queen, a Tyrant or Dictator"

-

That orange son of a bitch ended all the wars!!!

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (mehvR)

434 Aren't signed affidavits considered evidence in court?
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (9UmRs)

In general, the people will be required to testify if a trial happens.

Otherwise it's hearsay.

There are exceptions, of course, because there always are.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (UPoLF)

435 This is a Coup, its really as Simple as that.

Question is, what are we the people going to do if the Presidents challenges are unsuccessful?


Well, the problem I face is the oath I took 51 years ago to preserve and protect the Constitution of the United States against all enemies foreign and domestic. Because I am seeing a whole bunch of domestic enemies of the Constitution who need to suddenly cease being enemies of that document.

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (D+7Z3)

436 I clicked on a local news website for the first time in over a month.


jeebus.

all covid all the time. they are ramping up for bodies stacked in the streets. it's going to be worse than the first wave. we will be overwhelmed and have to put bodies in trucks!

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (W2Pud)

437 >>No. This drives me nuts. They purposely do this fraud in black areas (where turn out is probably organically pretty low, but population is high), and use black election workers to pull off the fraud so that any time anyone asks too many questions, they can pull the race card.

>>It's bullshit. We need to call them on it.

I don't care if it drives you nuts. They've been doing this for decades in large metro areas without respect to color, gender, sexual persuasion or any other measurement other than they are completely dominated Democrat areas.

You are saying this is a one off. It's not. The tools they use change as technology changes but it's not about color or gender issues, it's about a Democrat party that is corrupt and has been rigging elections all my life which is longer than yours and I've seen it up close and personal. Democrats own these large urban areas and they happen to be densely populated centers which is why they are so powerful and why it's so easy to swing states.

Last I looked I am white, have been all my life, andI lived in Boston for a long time and it happened to me year in and year out and it had nothing to do with color. They've just been exposed now.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (ZLI7S)

438 Stupid question: aren't the mail in ballots mixed in with the election day ballots? How would you pull out just the election day vote?
Posted by: MaureenTheTemp at November 12, 2020 06:42 PM (GZ/yK)


They were handled and counted separately and would likely have been stored severally, too.
But even if they are mixed together, the mail in ballots are physically different than the in-person ballots. So it would be easy to tell them apart.

Posted by: db at November 12, 2020 06:58 PM (E0PSG)

439 They phoned or emailed the Democrats. There's records of that.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at November 12, 2020 06:54 PM (LBiyC)


That tells us how many there might be, but I think most of them were mixed in anyway. I hope I'm wrong.

I swear I heard that there's only about 10,000 of these late ballots (that's probably just the number separated out). You have to figure they're mostly for Biden, but that's not very many.

Posted by: Optimizer at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (hOOi9)

440 363
It is my position that Brian in New Orleans, like Boulder t'hobo, and BSG, is, and always has been, simply a stealth troll.




Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (D+7Z3)

Well, it DOES sort of suck to work on machines for years that are faulty and fraud-ridden, and you were kept out of the loop about it all this time.
And that you couldn't figure that out.

Posted by: Just Saying at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (ufFY8)

441 NOOD

Posted by: Max Power at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (q177U)

442 >>>FIRE HIM NOW! Rogue General Mark Milley Threatens President: "We Do Not Take an Oath to King or Queen, a Tyrant or Dictator"
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (8RJyI

======

Not that he isn't a POS, but I read the tweet. What did he say that wasn't true, and justifies being fired for?

Posted by: Tinker to Evers to Chance at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (o9apC)

443 Anytime you have to talk to the big cops,your best play is to ask the frisky one out on a date.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (pB6Gt)

444 Also, why is it silly to think that there is a
person in this country capable of programming digital voting machines to
change the totals?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at November 12, 2020 06:53 PM (UPoLF)

Because of the logisitcs involved with reprogramming thousands of machines undetected. To pull that off defies logic. I would argue that it could not be done undetected. For it to have happened would mean many, many, many people are in on it. Too many to keep the secret. Ballot harvesting and stuffing paper is much easier. Occams razor.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (IbxQb)

445
These are just silly.

--------

Well shit. Thats settles it. Not even Socrates could argue with such cold, cogent, logic.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (nw6Hr)

446 FIRE HIM NOW! Rogue General Mark Milley Threatens President: "We Do Not Take an Oath to King or Queen, a Tyrant or Dictator"

One of my biggest disappointments are the number of military against Trump.

Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (+ya+t)

447 And Jack Straw thanks for the news of the 100 signed affidavits in MI.

Aren't signed affidavits considered evidence in court?
Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (9UmRs)
---
Viva Frei explained that nothing is evidence until they have convinced the judge that it is. Until then they are claims and statements.

But also, on the other side, nothing is evidence that the election was not interfered with until the judge has considered the statements.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (FYe3W)

448 Its not just the voting machines to be concerned
about. They feed databases that are completely accessible on the web and
actually reside in Europe for crissakes. Its a complete clustefuck.

Posted by: Ward at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (nzKWW)

From my little research on this, I don't think any of this was hacked per se. Either the back door was wide open or the election officials themselves just updated the database/tallies.The fraud is committed at every level so there are plenty of other instances of voter fraud and election fraud to go along with the vote tallying 'adjustments'

Posted by: matt foley at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (+fqBB)

449 Why get bent about Milley? He's stating a well known fact. That being said, what is the context? I'm unaware of the context other than he has said it...

Posted by: barney rubble at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (D2wY0)

450 35 I hope the entire system is overhauled by 2022.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at November 12, 2020 06:08 PM (

Pretty much demands Trump win. No democrat will "cure" our lack of election integrity.

Posted by: No, 3's good for a firing squad at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (obXNw)

451 If thay was 70M white supremacist nazis, y'all'd already knowed it.

Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (mehvR)

452 >>Aren't signed affidavits considered evidence in court?

Indeed. Sworn under penalty of prosecution.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (ZLI7S)

453 One of my biggest disappointments are the number of military against Trump.

Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (+ya+t)
---
See my scenario from the last thread.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (FYe3W)

454 It is my position that Brian in New Orleans, like Boulder t'hobo, and BSG, is, and always has been, simply a stealth troll.


Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2020 06:49 PM (D+7Z3)



Well then, time to go out and file a police report.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy 🍺 at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (ZSK0i)

455 -

That orange son of a bitch ended all the wars!!!
Posted by: Undercover Brother is the third monkey

That is Milley's problem.

Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (Kbzcz)

456 AG obviously was not around for the Jill Stein recount that started in Detroit. Or she is lying.

I will take lying.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (/Dgcm)

She was around in 2008. She is native to our state, and went to UM, of course.

Posted by: clutch at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (9UmRs)

457 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg
Posted by: Jane D'oh

What? My shocked face, *head blowing up*. Are we sure that's not a body double? Holy cow.
Posted by: Infidel at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (Kbzcz)

This has got to be from 2012.

I shan't believe it.

Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (hOMhY)

458

Newsmax is giddy.

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 07:00 PM (sfhL4)

459 Why get bent about Milley? He's stating a well known fact. That being said, what is the context? I'm unaware of the context other than he has said it...

Posted by: barney rubble


Context? Trump is a tyrant.
He damn sure didn't mean Biden is part of a coup.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (439Zu)

460 runner, not so sure (about Trump being persecuted). While I think it's unlikely, it surely will not be 1) based on anything sane 2) draw the immediate tut-tutting about "we don't go after former presidents" that is barfed up the nano-second pursuing criminal investigation against, say, Obama is raised.

But I was just thinking, while raking leaves, about the things that are being partially or fully, implicitly or explicitly, given the seal of approval if Trump leaves office now.

Vicious slander and actual blacklisting (business, $$) of family members - instantly and for no reason.

Public harassment of cabinet-level officials, for no reason.

Weaponization and illegal use of the most carefully safeguarded powers of govt. - surveillance - against a political candidate, AND an actual sitting president, by the top law enforcement and intel organs of the state.

Instant, baseless, never-ending, and increasingly hysterical slander of a president as "racist" and all kinds of vile things, completely without any basis.

Impeachment of a president for absolutely nothing remotely outside the routine powers and actions of a president acting in his plenary capacity in foreign policy.

Disclosure of a president's private conversations with other heads of state (historic first).

Stone-walling, lying, and other dishonesty to conceal the abuses of govt. power against a president.

I'll stop there.

How many people does the Horde think are sitting there mulling a GOP presidential run, given what has become of the civil society?

Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (OTzUX)

461 446 FIRE HIM NOW! Rogue General Mark Milley Threatens President: "We Do Not Take an Oath to King or Queen, a Tyrant or Dictator"

One of my biggest disappointments are the number of military against Trump.
Posted by: dartist at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (+ya+t)

I wonder how the good general would respond if one of his subordinates told him that about him.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (BJKQV)

462 Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (7alNQ)

And why does General Milley think that challenging fraudulent votes is the action of a dictator?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (WkPC9)

463 Might want to go look at the allegations about Hammer and Scorecard.

Posted by: Romeo13 at November 12, 2020 06:57 PM (NgKpN)


I'm familiar with Hammer and Scorecard. Black ops presumably used to effect elections in foreign countries. I'm going to need evidence though, not allegations.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (IbxQb)

464 Because of the logisitcs involved with reprogramming thousands of machines undetected. To pull that off defies logic. I would argue that it could not be done undetected. For it to have happened would mean many, many, many people are in on it. Too many to keep the secret. Ballot harvesting and stuffing paper is much easier. Occams razor.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (IbxQb)


Are you kidding? Updates over the internet happen all of the time. You phone,alone, updates software without your knowing.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (AiZBA)

465 Here's the thing about affidavits. They are signed on penalty of perjury. It's the prosecution for perjury that keeps the affidavits valuable.

Now think back 12 years. When Bill Clinton was charged with perjury, we heard "Perjury is seldom if ever prosecuted".

On the contrary, affidavits wouldn't be worth the paper printed on if we never did.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (FYe3W)

466 "the devil walks among us directing traffic and causing havoc both with impressionable groups and individual weaklings"

arf

Posted by: das poodle at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (cd+cj)

467 For it to have happened would mean many, many, many
people are in on it. Too many to keep the secret. Ballot harvesting and
stuffing paper is much easier.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 06:59 PM (IbxQb)

Which, failing to enter your analysis, requires orders of magnitude more people to be in on it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (KnJdm)

468 ---
It's funny because fascism has never happened here in America, and yet we're warned about its emergence all the time.
...
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 06:52 PM (FYe3W)
-----------------

Immigrants and language:
1st generation born American understands and speaks both languages.
2nd generation can understand the second language but cannot speak it.
3rd generation neither speaks nor understands their grand parents language


This is the first generation of voters who are completely disconnected/do not understand fascism and nazism.




Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (CZm2G)

469 >>And why does General Milley think that challenging fraudulent votes is the action of a dictator?


Honestly, as I read the Codes, it doesn't matter. He's insubordinate and as such, I tie him to a stake in No Man's Land or have him stretched over a canon.

Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2020 07:03 PM (7alNQ)

470
nood btw

Posted by: Sunny at November 12, 2020 07:03 PM (sfhL4)

471 I'm familiar with Hammer and Scorecard. Black ops presumably used to effect elections in foreign countries. I'm going to need evidence though, not allegations.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (IbxQb)

Do you have anything to say about it that would make any fucking difference?

Posted by: MAC SOG'''' at November 12, 2020 07:03 PM (P4Pk9)

472
Are you kidding? Updates over the internet happen all of the time. You phone,alone, updates software without your knowing.

Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (AiZBA)

The machines I'm talking about do not connect to the internet.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (IbxQb)

473 how much do you want to bet he locks us down again.
Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:51 PM (W2Pud)

He said he's not, but who the eff knows? And why is his wife going to be there?

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (KuT6N)

474 Posted by: DR.WTF at November 12, 2020 07:02 PM (AiZBA)


He works hard for his money.

Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (CZm2G)

475 ....How many people does the Horde think are sitting there mulling a GOP presidential run, given what has become of the civil society?
Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (OTzUX)


we need to fix some things first and we need leaders, like those that rose during the TEA party movement. a lot of it was due to Palin and her word would give politicians a surge. so much so, that that little bitch BO is still sore about her. Terpenie i vremya..

Posted by: runner at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (zr5Kq)

476
You DO know that the CDC isnt even bothering yo track flu cases and deaths this season. Right?
Posted by: fixerupper at November 12, 2020 06:26 PM (nw6Hr)

oh they are tracking it, it's just Dominion keeps flipping the flu deaths to the COVID column.

Posted by: NJ Class Traitor at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (hBDC1)

477 Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (OTzUX)
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You forgot masses of Democrats threatening to move to Georgia to dictate Georgian representation in the Senate to Georgians.

Thankfully, that's not legal. But even if it somehow were, it's invalid. It totally obliterates the concept of "representation" for a Will to Power.

Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 07:05 PM (FYe3W)

478 462
Posted by: garrett at November 12, 2020 06:55 PM (7alNQ)



And why does General Milley think that challenging fraudulent votes is the action of a dictator?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (WkPC9)

He doesn't. The Milley deal is CNN making a big deal out of nothing for a probably non-Trump-supporting general, then TGP getting a little dramatic. Read Milley's words. They are uncontroversial, expect when CNN makes it sound like he is ready to remove Trump in a military coup.

The words indicate nothing of the sort that I could see.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 12, 2020 07:05 PM (KnJdm)

479 And why does General Milley think that challenging fraudulent votes is the action of a dictator?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (WkPC9)

All the while governors shut down states.

Who are the dictators and authoritarians?

Posted by: golfman at November 12, 2020 07:06 PM (hOMhY)

480 473
how much do you want to bet he locks us down again.

Posted by: nurse ratched, watching the left clutch their pearls at November 12, 2020 06:51 PM (W2Pud)



He said he's not, but who the eff knows? And why is his wife going to be there?

Posted by: Jordan61 - 2020 TX MoMe Bacon Wench
TRUMP WON
at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (KuT6N)

Because we are not punished enough having to look at his stupid fat face. He has to bring his cow along, too.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 12, 2020 07:06 PM (KnJdm)

481 233
Can you run votes through more than once? As the Whistleblower says they were doing?





ie, have one unreadable ballot half way through the stack, put it on top for the next run, but NOT reset the counter?



Posted by: John Durham at November 12, 2020 06:27 PM (NgKpN)


The
Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it.
It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.


Posted by: Brian in New Orleans
Then it changes your vote to Biden and adds 1,000 then takes one off Trump and another 1,000 off. The it sends whatever the fuk its told to to election central.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at November 12, 2020 07:06 PM (LBiyC)

482 UNCALLED HOUSE RACES
California CD 21 D (Rep up 2356 votes)
California CD 25 R (Rep up 159 votes)
Iowa CD 2 D (Rep up 47 votes)
New York CD 22 D (Rep up 54.3-43.4%)
Utah CD 4 D (Rep up 1616 votes)

Posted by: Sweep All Five at November 12, 2020 07:07 PM (BBWrU)

483 Restaurants and bars, etc. should promote rallies.
At the rallies they could offer food and refreshment
to the rally attendants for health reasons.
(just like Portland)

Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2020 07:07 PM (CZm2G)

484 @realDonaldTrump
"REPORT: DOMINION DELETED 2.7 MILLION TRUMP VOTES NATIONWIDE. DATA ANALYSIS FINDS 221,000 PENNSYLVANIA VOTES SWITCHED FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP TO BIDEN. 941,000 TRUMP VOTES DELETED. STATES USING DOMINION VOTING SYSTEMS SWITCHED 435,000 VOTES FROM TRUMP TO BIDEN"

--

Can somebody give me a quick rundown on who is determining these figures? It would seem to indicate there is, oh I dunno...hard computer evidence. Am I missing something?

Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2020 07:07 PM (m0Jw9)

485 269 "hey, anybody here ever use geissele super duty rifles?
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:33 PM (4Jold)"

Yes they're GTG and Bill is a good guy.
Posted by: SCOTUS
what is your reg nic?

I am familiar with their triggers but was unaware they were doing entire bang sticks.

I am interested.
Posted by: confederatefifth at November 12, 2020 06:35 PM (4Jold)


So now they're upgrading their triggers with a gun? Who could have guessed THAT was the next move?

Posted by: MrObvious at November 12, 2020 07:10 PM (k+h+d)

486 Can somebody give me a quick rundown on who is determining these figures? ...
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2020 07:07 PM (m0Jw9)


Go to OAN, that's who reported it.
Chanel Rion

Posted by: Braenyard at November 12, 2020 07:10 PM (CZm2G)

487 It is at times hard to remain optimistic, since so many here are very set in their certainty that no matter what we do, we will lose. Because we always lose.

I'll probably take a few hours of a break, go for a run since I haven't done that since Election Day.

But stepping back, looking at the big picture.

We have multiple measures statistically that massive election fraud was used to steal an election. Yes, people will argue each individual metric can be explained away. People looking at single issues and playing devil's advocate.

But the total picture is undeniable. Rhomboid put it pretty well when looking a the two campaigns. There is no rational universe where Biden gets 78 million votes. It doesn't just defy logic, it defies mathematics, sigma 6+ odds of occurring.

And that then leads to the bigger question, will America allow such an obvious fraud stand?

That question wraps up all of our laws, our courts, the campaign's evidence of fraud, the political process, the media's gaslighting, and the patriotism of our citizens. We already have patriots who were in the rooms watching the fraud occur, be so disturbed by it, that they are swearing under penalty of perjury that they watched it happen.

Trump put it well in the final days, this is the most important election in our lifetimes. This is for the soul of the nation.

I personally don't believe that at the end of the day, America will allow something this unjust to stand. I don't know where the backbone and patriotism will come from, whether protesters, the courts, or the legislatures. But I believe it will come.

And this is where I put my spreadsheets down, and profess faith in something larger than myself. Something that I can't quantify. Only something I believe.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at November 12, 2020 07:12 PM (5p7BC)

488 307 Missed last post.

But my these is gonna be, as it is on everything until/unless it's reasonably demonstrated that the election was stolen, that *the electorate* is responsible here.

Not China.

Not Soros.

Not the Martian invaders.

It's part of the literally unbelievable scenario we just saw/might have seen.

The Dems stepped on every land mine the could find, including - incredibly - being reasonably seen as kinda "meh" on horrible riots and looting, nation-wide. Unbelievable.

Didn't matter. Just like nothing else mattered.

A candidate literally beyond the realm of parody, with no campaign - or events that also were implausibly weird and pathetic - and policy approaches that generally poll around 35%, *with no GOTV in key areas/states*, who was literally invisible and unheard, though he did manage to make some historic gaffes ("you ain't black"), beat one of the most effective and successful presidents in 100 years.

Who had supporters spontaneously creating events around the country, for months (never seen anything like this, it is unique in modern political history). And was above 50% in approval rating, and had historic high partisan approval rating and number of votes in an incumbent unopposed primary.

Part of the reason I hope that fraud is conclusively demonstrated, and even persuasively shown to have accounted for a material % of Joe's votes, is that I don't want America to be so far gone that my above description actually describes what happened.
Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 06:41 PM (OTzUX)

-------

EXACTLY.

If enough Americans truly voted for that shit Biden, then it truly deserves an Iranian nuke going off in DC.

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 12, 2020 07:13 PM (cMXNt)

489 Also, why is it silly to think that there is a person in this country
capable of programming digital voting machines to change the totals?

It is absurd to think that people who could do that don't exist.

Brian go read the official report from the State of TX which specifically rejected Dominion machines as too easily subverted. I'll take that opinion over yours any day of the week.

Posted by: An Observation at November 12, 2020 07:15 PM (D+7Z3)

490 And Rhomboid, an election in which the Republicans made gains in the House and held the Senate (with an extremely adverse battleground).

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 12, 2020 07:17 PM (cMXNt)

491 477 Posted by: rhomboid at November 12, 2020 07:01 PM (OTzUX)
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You forgot masses of Democrats threatening to move to Georgia to dictate Georgian representation in the Senate to Georgians.

Thankfully, that's not legal. But even if it somehow were, it's invalid. It totally obliterates the concept of "representation" for a Will to Power.
Posted by: Axeman at November 12, 2020 07:05 PM (FYe3W)


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Not sure why that's illegal but donating money from out of state.

Posted by: MAGA (stop the steal link in this nic) at November 12, 2020 07:19 PM (cMXNt)

492 It's my understanding there is a "weighted balloting" setting on the Dominion" (actually all) vote machine. It allows someone with advanced knowledge of the machine to set it to award multiples of the actual count to one candidate. For example 1.2 to biden, .8 to trump. What we need are NSA data for communications with the machines, who told it what when.

Posted by: Fra Filippo at November 12, 2020 07:20 PM (WH8+k)

493
Can somebody give me a quick rundown on who is determining these figures? It would seem to indicate there is, oh I dunno...hard computer evidence. Am I missing something?
Posted by: Lady in Black at November 12, 2020 07:07 PM (m0Jw9)

It was in one of Ace's morning links where a coding guru got into a copy of Dominion Code and found where it was specifically coded to take votes from one and award to another....or lose votes entirely.

Posted by: MrObvious at November 12, 2020 07:20 PM (k+h+d)

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Thats the JP Rifles course. Unfortunately it falls outside the 120 range I'm allowed to go ATM, but I plan on going as soon as this covid crap ends.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-Si Vis Pacam, Pac Bellum) at November 12, 2020 07:25 PM (l7Kbv)

495 Its called " Time in-Time-out" hack; open the file, while the count keeps going. Use the "new" data, remove the decimal point (files need numbers) they don't do percentages-the file "corrects itself

Posted by: pahound at November 12, 2020 07:30 PM (uCLFM)

496
The machines I'm talking about do not connect to the internet.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at November 12, 2020 07:04 PM (IbxQb)

A former PA AG who was a poll watchers got pictures of the machines in Philly hooked to the internet by etherwire.

Posted by: Fra Filippo at November 12, 2020 07:30 PM (WH8+k)

497 you saw it on CNN, ironic

Posted by: pahound at November 12, 2020 07:32 PM (uCLFM)

498 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?


I don't believe what I just saw and heard.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #FightBack at November 12, 2020 07:34 PM (HaL55)

499 So, ballpark, how many votes does that take from Joe?

Posted by: Thirdtwin at November 12, 2020 07:45 PM (MMJ/U)

500 411 Okay, who here had Cynthia McKinney, former Georgia Dem and moonbat, supporting Trump on their 2020 Bingo card?

https://tinyurl.com/y4lh88eg
Posted by: Jane D'oh

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It's for selfish reasons. She knows where all this is leading, at least in the court of public opinion.

Posted by: Brisco_County_Sr at November 12, 2020 07:47 PM (YynD5)

501 I would like to say something to all of the "we're doooomed" people here.Number one, if you have some negative bullshit ass thing to say, don't. It's probably wrong any way. Number two, there are few here that are revered and have been so for a reason. Please don't attack and argue and make yourself sound stupid when most of these people have provided all the facts for us to read. For example, when a large post is made with facts, data, analysis, and sound reasoning, don't reply angrily with incorrect assumptions that reveal a total lack of understanding of some legal processes. When you post something, try to provide a link instead of just arguing and claiming you know better. BACK YOUR SHIT UP. Finally, I've been coming here for years and it's become concerning to me (yeah yeah) that so many here are more prone to the twitter style of posting which is "HERES MY OPNION AND IF YOU DISAGREE YOURE A DOODY HEAD!!"
Please stop. We're better than this. I'm tired of having to sift through pages of bullshit, illogical, WRONG information. this goes double for those videos of crackpots. Don't post that embarrassingly stupid shit here. We are hopeful and have a great resolve, but we aren't crackpots.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2020 07:54 PM (aR6C/)

502 And what the fuck is up with the FireFox formatting? Why does the spacing of my posts go full retard?

Posted by: Getcha Pull at November 12, 2020 07:55 PM (aR6C/)

503 I will say it again.

There are tens of thousand of ballots with Biden only ovals filled it.

But they were not filled in by tens of thousands. Maybe a few tens at most.

There will be fingerprints of just those people on the votes.

Time to start dusting.

It may be possible to use lasers to do the same thing. But the proof is there.

Posted by: Loki, watering thoroughly The Tree of Liberty at November 12, 2020 07:56 PM (KqiMr)

504 Musical Break: LA Woman is the best driving song

Posted by: RoyalOil at November 12, 2020 08:00 PM (aO8Gd)

505 Good news comrades, the weekly chocolate ration has been increased from 15 grams to 10 grams!

- Juan Williams

Posted by: Darth Randall at November 12, 2020 08:01 PM (7RzQY)

506 The Imagecast machine IS the ballot. You don't run anything through it. It's a big touchscreen you register your vote on directly.
Posted by: Brian
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Hold it...is that the system that you are defending?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 12, 2020 06:36

That sounds like what use. You get a card, insert it in the machine and cast your votes on a touchscreen. There's a printout, like a grocery store type, but it goes by fast and stays in the machine.

You do see a final ballot before you confirm it. In Lee Co. IIRC Trump was 59% vs Biden 38%, pretty much expected. The R powers in this counting wouldn't allow any D cheating. Of course Biden took IL w/ Crook Co, but the rest of most us went Trump.

Posted by: Farmer at November 12, 2020 08:03 PM (09pux)

507 It's for selfish reasons. She knows where all this is leading, at least in the court of public opinion.

In a sane world there would be a lot of minorities on the left especially, shitting their pants recognizing how paternalistic the leaders of the Democrats are and what allowing this level of fraud to stand means even for choosing between different candidates during primaries.

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