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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition
Insofar as “democracy” means “a political system in which government derives its powers from the consent of the governed,” then of course that accurately describes our system. But the word conjures far more than that. It is often used to describe rule by majority, the view that it is the prerogative of government to reflexively carry out the will of the majority of its citizens.Those who claim to speak and act for "the people' have an alarming tendency to do really bad things. The doublespeak of the totalitarian is filled with vague references to "the people," which conveniently overwhelms the smallest and most important unit of society: the individual. It is individual rights that are the bedrock of natural and God-given law. That amorphous and malleable "people" are an excuse for the worst tendencies of mob rule. "The People" are the ones rioting in our streets and enthusiastically supporting vicious policies of inequality: affirmative action, reparations, defunding the police, and on and on and on. That ignorance of history prevents a sober understanding of "the people," best expostulated in post-revolution France. The Reign of Terror was exactly that, and it emerged from direct rule by the people, unfettered by the checks and balances of our Constitution. It is the individual whom I trust, and American Exceptionalism placed him at the forefront. Just look at the Bill of Rights; its laser-like focus is on protecting the rights of the individual from the depredations of government, and on protecting the individual states from an overbearing central government. But when the rule of law can be overwhelmed by a simple majority, even the most romantic notions of democracies fail. It is our unique Constitution that protects our rights, and we owe it to our ancestors and our descendants to inculcate them with at the very least an understanding of our political structure, and why it has resulted in the greatest country in history.
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Hello monkey thread!
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at October 22, 2020 11:00 AM (JrLYs)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:00 AM (NWM+b)
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Me neither
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 11:01 AM (LGXGf)
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Monkey Time.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 22, 2020 11:01 AM (cJEnq)
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Top 10!
Posted by: FriscoJim at October 22, 2020 11:01 AM (+56GQ)
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So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:01 AM (NWM+b)
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6: yep, apparently a heavily reacted nothing-burger
Posted by: Liberty at October 22, 2020 11:02 AM (OXljM)
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And it's pronounced Eye-gor!
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 11:02 AM (LGXGf)
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Crazy times my moron friends
Posted by: Zeera at October 22, 2020 11:02 AM (zUdXR)
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what is this rule of law you speak of?
Posted by: uncle handsy Joe at October 22, 2020 11:02 AM (JFO2v)
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In the time of chimpanzees, I was a monkey...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:03 AM (Do5/p)
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Willowed...
From the sidebar on Troy Aikman's explanation...
"I love a flyover but It was odd to see one over a mostly empty stadium..."
That is actually a good point. The flyovers, I think, are mostly for the enjoyment for the fans. Doesn't really make much sense to have them if there are no fans in attendance.
But that is not how Aikman framed his comment. He described it as a waste of jet fuel. And then made a comment seemingly in support of "Harris-Biden" ending the wasteful use of jet fuel in flyovers if they get elected.
So yeah, I don't buy his explanation either. If that is what he meant -- flyover is a waste with no fans in attendance to see it -- he would have said it at the time.
From the sidebar on Troy Aikman's explanation...
"I love a flyover but It was odd to see one over a mostly empty stadium..."
That is actually a good point. The flyovers, I think, are mostly for the enjoyment for the fans. Doesn't really make much sense to have them if there are no fans in attendance.
But that is not how Aikman framed his comment. He described it as a waste of jet fuel. And then made a comment seemingly in support of "Harris-Biden" ending the wasteful use of jet fuel in flyovers if they get elected.
So yeah, I don't buy his explanation either. If that is what he meant -- flyover is a waste with no fans in attendance to see it -- he would have said it at the time.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:03 AM (Do5/p)
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So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:01 AM (NWM+b)
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Likely she pulled a McDougall. Keep your mouth shut, take one for the team and you'll be taken care of.
So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:01 AM (NWM+b)
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Likely she pulled a McDougall. Keep your mouth shut, take one for the team and you'll be taken care of.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (mht8P)
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They want democracy when it gives them what they want. When it doesn't, "It's unconzitooshnal!!!!" and the courts intervene.
It's a sham, it's a show, like we all here know.
It's a sham, it's a show, like we all here know.
Posted by: Brother Tim got tired of ID'ing as someone else's IP at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (OUMaO)
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The left doesn't want democracy. They want absolute power.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (22mNy)
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We want free shit!
Posted by: The Mob at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (cJEnq)
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10: I'd like to know too. I read Cooney is in solitary waiting to not kill himself since he spilled on Joe and Hunter. Oregon is a police state
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (ONvIw)
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So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Can't. Gotta go baby-sit my brother's kid.
Can't. Gotta go baby-sit my brother's kid.
Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (lIIT7)
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Insofar as "democracy" means "a political system in which government derives its powers from the consent of the governed," then of course that accurately describes our system. But the word conjures far more than that. It is often used to describe rule by majority, the view that it is the prerogative of government to reflexively carry out the will of the majority of its citizens.
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I get a bit agitated whenever I hear about "our democracy" for exactly this reason. When I was in high school, a communist girl wrote an essay for the school paper to deconstruct the Pledge of Allegiance and in response to the "and to the Republic, for which it stands" line, she commented "at least it doesn't pretend we're a Democracy."
I fisked it and sent it back as a letter to the editor. They declined to publish.
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I get a bit agitated whenever I hear about "our democracy" for exactly this reason. When I was in high school, a communist girl wrote an essay for the school paper to deconstruct the Pledge of Allegiance and in response to the "and to the Republic, for which it stands" line, she commented "at least it doesn't pretend we're a Democracy."
I fisked it and sent it back as a letter to the editor. They declined to publish.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (hYcqw)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at October 22, 2020 11:04 AM (arJlL)
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>>So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Redacted when the court specified UNREDACTED.
Redacted when the court specified UNREDACTED.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (bDqIh)
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Can folks here suggest good basic civics books? I learned civics but that was back when Michigan was a territory.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (Dc2NZ)
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ACB vote 12-0. Dems took their ball and went home. Forget who it was, but some Senator had an epic recount of dems' treachery and politicization of SCOTUS.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (5eu7W)
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The new CA poll discredits any large national lead for Biden.
Hillary won CA by 30 and nationally by 2.5.
Biden is up 26 in CA but leads nationally by double digits?
Ok.
Hillary won CA by 30 and nationally by 2.5.
Biden is up 26 in CA but leads nationally by double digits?
Ok.
Posted by: Ha at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (+jNil)
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Are you not entertained?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (ZLI7S)
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A central conflict of our time is the left claiming to speak for the people while at the same time claiming an urgent need to incessantly make the people change.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (qlFIA)
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Civics, American History, Political Science...apparently none are taught
anymore, because the level of idiocy, ignorance and flaccid assumptions
about our political structure are ubiquitous.
I wouldn't trust out education system to teach them. Honestly, they weren't taught when I was in school either.
anymore, because the level of idiocy, ignorance and flaccid assumptions
about our political structure are ubiquitous.
I wouldn't trust out education system to teach them. Honestly, they weren't taught when I was in school either.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (HreEk)
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I am worried that we won't be a republic if Joe gets in. The democrats have shown their stalinist side and it will only get worse with victory
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (ONvIw)
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Why cant the feds order Oregon to turn over Cooney? This should be a federal case and Cooney is a witness!?
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (ppMjB)
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Trump: MAGA/ KAG
Rapist: The idea of America was great, but we NEVER lived up to it.
Winning message.
Rapist: The idea of America was great, but we NEVER lived up to it.
Winning message.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (dNzKv)
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23 ACB vote 12-0. Dems took their ball and went home. Forget who it was, but some Senator had an epic recount of dems' treachery and politicization of SCOTUS.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (5eu7W)
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And Graham pushed through even more judicial nominees.
Democrats have become really bad at this.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (5eu7W)
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And Graham pushed through even more judicial nominees.
Democrats have become really bad at this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (NWM+b)
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At this point, I'm convinced the media only continues with the "Biden is up 12 points" narrative is so they can spend half the election night talking about "what Trump did" to "close the gap" as well as talk about the shy trump voter, what the polls missed, etc.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
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Not that it will happen, due to the Democrat Dumbass Zombie Effect, but -
I'd love for one or two of the Dim Senate Big Shots from the states/cities which the Democrat leadership allowed to be burnt down to be overwhelmingly voted out of office.
Just to show this lame ass party that they need to reform, move to the middle, and are about their fellow citizens instead of trying to intimidate them with fear and violence.
*sigh*
But, it's just a dream....a beautiful, beautiful dream.
I'd love for one or two of the Dim Senate Big Shots from the states/cities which the Democrat leadership allowed to be burnt down to be overwhelmingly voted out of office.
Just to show this lame ass party that they need to reform, move to the middle, and are about their fellow citizens instead of trying to intimidate them with fear and violence.
*sigh*
But, it's just a dream....a beautiful, beautiful dream.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (dWwl8)
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But when the rule of law can be overwhelmed by a simple majority, even the most romantic notions of democracies fail.
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Strictly speaking, in a Democracy the "rule of law" *is* the will of the majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better concept.
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Strictly speaking, in a Democracy the "rule of law" *is* the will of the majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better concept.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (hYcqw)
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Redacted when the court specified UNREDACTED.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (bDqIh)
We are moving toward East Germany.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (bDqIh)
We are moving toward East Germany.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ONvIw)
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Will there be machines for sale here?
Posted by: some guy out west at October 22, 2020 11:08 AM (XpDOS)
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So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it
Good to the last drop
So the Maxwell deposition has been unsealed this morning, huh?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it
Good to the last drop
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 22, 2020 11:08 AM (63Dwl)
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Third-degree murder charges against Derek Chauvin have been dropped, leaving the second-degree charge. Wonder if the evidence for that will be sufficient.
Third-degree murder charges against Derek Chauvin have been dropped, leaving the second-degree charge. Wonder if the evidence for that will be sufficient.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2020 11:08 AM (mht8P)
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29 Why cant the feds order Oregon to turn over Cooney? This should be a federal case and Cooney is a witness!?
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (ppMjB)
Do you think Wray and Barr want the Bidens to fail?
They don't. Just like Mitt, they have interests to protect.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (ppMjB)
Do you think Wray and Barr want the Bidens to fail?
They don't. Just like Mitt, they have interests to protect.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (ONvIw)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (5eu7W)
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The debate tonight is going to be a shitshow. They all but assured it will be a nice 90 minute infomercial for Sundown.
I would say Trump should have boycotted it but then we'd have an endless news cycle on big meanie bully coward Trump being too afraid to debate Sundown.
I would say Trump should have boycotted it but then we'd have an endless news cycle on big meanie bully coward Trump being too afraid to debate Sundown.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (8YFRI)
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32 At this point, I'm convinced the media only continues with the "Biden is up 12 points" narrative is so they can spend half the election night talking about "what Trump did" to "close the gap" as well as talk about the shy trump voter, what the polls missed, etc.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
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I hope they take away the lesson that massively unrealistic polls that show Democrats winning easily throughout summer just depresses their own base because they don't need to vote.
This was the worst year to do it, too, since so many people were planning to vote by absentee. In many places where you had to request the ballot, they might have just put it off because there was no real sense of urgency because Biden was going to win easily. And then, by the time polls tightened, it was far too late to ask for absentee ballots and they're still too scared to go in person.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
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I hope they take away the lesson that massively unrealistic polls that show Democrats winning easily throughout summer just depresses their own base because they don't need to vote.
This was the worst year to do it, too, since so many people were planning to vote by absentee. In many places where you had to request the ballot, they might have just put it off because there was no real sense of urgency because Biden was going to win easily. And then, by the time polls tightened, it was far too late to ask for absentee ballots and they're still too scared to go in person.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (NWM+b)
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In ancient Greece the city-states alternated between democracies and oligarchies of various forms precisely because democracy was not stable.
Democracy is generally did produce better leaders, but bad ones could be catastrophic look at what happened in Athens at the tail end of the Peloponnesian War where they made mistake after mistake
Democracy is generally did produce better leaders, but bad ones could be catastrophic look at what happened in Athens at the tail end of the Peloponnesian War where they made mistake after mistake
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (qlFIA)
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Are you not entertained?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM
Is this not why you are here?
Are you not entertained?
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM
Is this not why you are here?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (Do5/p)
Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (KDCRD)
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And Graham pushed through even more judicial nominees.
Democrats have become really bad at this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (NWM+b)
Nobody will remember that the Dems didn't show up. History will show that she was approved out of committee unanimously.
Democrats have become really bad at this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (NWM+b)
Nobody will remember that the Dems didn't show up. History will show that she was approved out of committee unanimously.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (CQ3Qb)
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Can folks here suggest good basic civics books? I learned civics but that was back when Michigan was a territory.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen
C'mon......you're a young chick-a-dee !
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Xenomorph Queen
C'mon......you're a young chick-a-dee !
Posted by: JT at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (arJlL)
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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (NWM+b)
They are going to cheat. Real votes are superfluous
They are going to cheat. Real votes are superfluous
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (ONvIw)
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Strictly speaking, in a Democracy the "rule of law" *is* the will of the majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better concept.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020
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"Democracy" is the lynch mob wanting to drag Charlie Luckless out of the jail and string 'im up.
A "republic" is when law enforcement and the courts say, "You've got to try him fairly in a court of law first." And not only can back that up, but also do back it up.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020
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"Democracy" is the lynch mob wanting to drag Charlie Luckless out of the jail and string 'im up.
A "republic" is when law enforcement and the courts say, "You've got to try him fairly in a court of law first." And not only can back that up, but also do back it up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (wQDH5)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (mht8P)
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I really don't think many of the 30 Freshmen Democrats from Trump districts are going to make it to a second term.
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They're two at least in the Houston area, I think.
The Indian guy and some lady; SW Houston area.
Neither are willing to put "Democrat" in their ads.
I really don't think many of the 30 Freshmen Democrats from Trump districts are going to make it to a second term.
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They're two at least in the Houston area, I think.
The Indian guy and some lady; SW Houston area.
Neither are willing to put "Democrat" in their ads.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (21f02)
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46 And Graham pushed through even more judicial nominees.
Democrats have become really bad at this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (NWM+b)
Nobody will remember that the Dems didn't show up. History will show that she was approved out of committee unanimously.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (CQ3Qb)
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History won't even care about that.
But the progressives trying to game the courts for the next 20 years will see the effects as more circuit courts become unwilling to listen to their bullshit.
Democrats have become really bad at this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:06 AM (NWM+b)
Nobody will remember that the Dems didn't show up. History will show that she was approved out of committee unanimously.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (CQ3Qb)
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History won't even care about that.
But the progressives trying to game the courts for the next 20 years will see the effects as more circuit courts become unwilling to listen to their bullshit.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (NWM+b)
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>>They want democracy when it gives them what they want. When it doesn't, "It's unconzitooshnal!!!!" and the courts intervene.
It's a sham, it's a show, like we all here know.
Yup, they just redefine words to suite their agenda.
Redefine rights to mean "stuff we are owed by the government."
Redefine Constitutionalism as "believing in the Constitution exactly as written -- and rejecting all amendments made to it."
Claim it's "unfair" that every state gets two representatives in the Senate, completely ignoring the historical reasons why that is vs. the House where representation is based on population.
Words have no meaning to people like AOC, just will to power by playing games, intentionally misrepresenting what is to get what she wants.
It's a sham, it's a show, like we all here know.
Yup, they just redefine words to suite their agenda.
Redefine rights to mean "stuff we are owed by the government."
Redefine Constitutionalism as "believing in the Constitution exactly as written -- and rejecting all amendments made to it."
Claim it's "unfair" that every state gets two representatives in the Senate, completely ignoring the historical reasons why that is vs. the House where representation is based on population.
Words have no meaning to people like AOC, just will to power by playing games, intentionally misrepresenting what is to get what she wants.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: josephistan at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (Izzlo)
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So yeah, I don't buy his explanation either. If that is what he meant -- flyover is a waste with no fans in attendance to see it -- he would have said it at the time.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:03 AM (Do5/p)
He didn't want to admit on-air that there next to no fans in the stadium, because they are still playing pretend football.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:03 AM (Do5/p)
He didn't want to admit on-air that there next to no fans in the stadium, because they are still playing pretend football.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (dLkYS)
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26 A central conflict of our time is the left claiming to speak for the people while at the same time claiming an urgent need to incessantly make the people change.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (qlFIA)
It is the core tenet of Collectivism:
The People > people.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:05 AM (qlFIA)
It is the core tenet of Collectivism:
The People > people.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (6FeV1)
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ZOD.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (xK9An)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (sfhL4)
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Maxwell was never going to say anything of relevance during the deposition. She knows a deal is in the cards so why out yourself for nothing up front?
She's cagey. Like a cougar. But in a cage.
She's cagey. Like a cougar. But in a cage.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (3H9h1)
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Trump a Penn rally the other day was very close to saying it was going to be an EPIC BLOWOUT
Now he is known for a certain amount of puffery, but he liked almost giddy as he was talking. He isn't worried in the slightest.
Still a ways to go, but no point in worrying now. Its gonna happen, whatever it is . . .
Now he is known for a certain amount of puffery, but he liked almost giddy as he was talking. He isn't worried in the slightest.
Still a ways to go, but no point in worrying now. Its gonna happen, whatever it is . . .
Posted by: simplemind at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (1M9bb)
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Strictly speaking, in a Democracy the "rule of law" *is* the will of the majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better concept.
Jim Crow was the act of a Democracy.
The 14th Amendment was the act of a Constitutional Republic.
Jim Crow was the act of a Democracy.
The 14th Amendment was the act of a Constitutional Republic.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (BeYX8)
Posted by: Jeffrey Toobin at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (wPVhA)
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The last 2 polls in CA in 2016 showed a 20 point lead for Clinton. She ended up winning by 30. I wouldn't draw many conclusions from CA polls.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (22mNy)
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At this point, I'm convinced the media only continues with the "Biden is
up 12 points" narrative is so they can spend half the election night
talking about "what Trump did" to "close the gap" as well as talk about
the shy trump voter, what the polls missed, etc.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
The story will be that the Russians stole it for Trump again with the laptop disinformation. That fake laptop is the only reason Trump closed the 14 point lead everyone knew Biden had.
At this point, I'm convinced the media only continues with the "Biden is
up 12 points" narrative is so they can spend half the election night
talking about "what Trump did" to "close the gap" as well as talk about
the shy trump voter, what the polls missed, etc.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
The story will be that the Russians stole it for Trump again with the laptop disinformation. That fake laptop is the only reason Trump closed the 14 point lead everyone knew Biden had.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (CQ3Qb)
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But, it's just a dream....a beautiful, beautiful dream.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (dWwl
My beautiful dream is that another Trump victory fractures the Democrat coalition. They realize they can't win by doubling down on their failed ideas anymore and start blaming various factions. The moderates separate from the socialists, the greens go their own way, and everyone starts trying to rebuild a new party...
And that the replacement is something that doesn't hate America, either historically or presently.
Posted by: naturalfake at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (dWwl
My beautiful dream is that another Trump victory fractures the Democrat coalition. They realize they can't win by doubling down on their failed ideas anymore and start blaming various factions. The moderates separate from the socialists, the greens go their own way, and everyone starts trying to rebuild a new party...
And that the replacement is something that doesn't hate America, either historically or presently.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (qH2iN)
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We want free shit!
Posted by: The Mob
Or, as it is sometimes phrased...
From each according to his abilities
To each according to his needs.
They want to redistribute wealth, from the barrel of a gun. They want to take my shit, and give it to someone else, and in the process get power over me and the others, as mediators of re-distribution. The dictatorship of communism destroys freedom, destroys freedom of association, destroys contracts and law. Replacing it with the whim of the tyrant in charge.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Posted by: The Mob
Or, as it is sometimes phrased...
From each according to his abilities
To each according to his needs.
They want to redistribute wealth, from the barrel of a gun. They want to take my shit, and give it to someone else, and in the process get power over me and the others, as mediators of re-distribution. The dictatorship of communism destroys freedom, destroys freedom of association, destroys contracts and law. Replacing it with the whim of the tyrant in charge.
There is nothing new under the sun.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (vcOmj)
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If I were being very generous, I could frame Aikman's comments in a positive light. He did, after all, refer to a "Harris-Biden" administration, implying that he thinks that Harris is the actual presidential candidate and that Biden will be jettisoned as soon as practical.
But I'm a giver...
But I'm a giver...
Posted by: FriscoJim at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (+56GQ)
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Words have no meaning to people like AOC, just will to power by playing games, intentionally misrepresenting what is to get what she wants.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (bDqIh)
Our country is being undermined by a dumb barista.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (bDqIh)
Our country is being undermined by a dumb barista.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (ONvIw)
69
51
I really don't think many of the 30 Freshmen Democrats from Trump districts are going to make it to a second term.
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They're two at least in the Houston area, I think.
The Indian guy and some lady; SW Houston area.
Neither are willing to put "Democrat" in their ads.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (21f02)
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Joe Cunningham (SC-1) has his ads all about offshore drilling bans that he says Nancy Mace, his opponent, isn't against enough.
Offshore drilling is important to this area, but it feels like super weak sauce in a national election.
I really don't think many of the 30 Freshmen Democrats from Trump districts are going to make it to a second term.
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They're two at least in the Houston area, I think.
The Indian guy and some lady; SW Houston area.
Neither are willing to put "Democrat" in their ads.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (21f02)
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Joe Cunningham (SC-1) has his ads all about offshore drilling bans that he says Nancy Mace, his opponent, isn't against enough.
Offshore drilling is important to this area, but it feels like super weak sauce in a national election.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (NWM+b)
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54 If we were a democracy, we would still have slavery and women wouldn't have the vote.
Democracy is three wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner.
Posted by: Mrs. Winslow's Soothing Syrup at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (xZjSg)
New England Democracy is three sheep and a wolf voting to have mutton for supper.
Democracy is three wolves and one sheep voting on what's for dinner.
Posted by: Mrs. Winslow's Soothing Syrup at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (xZjSg)
New England Democracy is three sheep and a wolf voting to have mutton for supper.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (6FeV1)
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Strictly speaking, in a Democracy the "rule of law" *is* the will of the
majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better
concept.
A Republic can only exist as long as its power is divided. And as we've seen, any central authority will always pursue - and get - that power. I'm not real optimistic than a Republic can survive long term.
majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better
concept.
A Republic can only exist as long as its power is divided. And as we've seen, any central authority will always pursue - and get - that power. I'm not real optimistic than a Republic can survive long term.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (HreEk)
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Civics, American History, Political Science...apparently none are taught anymore,
unless you are part of the elite ruling class
then, they have a good education
unless you are part of the elite ruling class
then, they have a good education
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:13 AM (sfhL4)
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2020 11:13 AM (5eu7W)
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The People > people.
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*places hand with fingers spread on the radiation shielding*
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
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*places hand with fingers spread on the radiation shielding*
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
Posted by: SPOCK at October 22, 2020 11:13 AM (13aiU)
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I would say Trump should have boycotted it but then
we'd have an endless news cycle on big meanie bully coward Trump being
too afraid to debate Sundown.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (8YFRI)
Disagree. The big story the past couple weeks is the media suppressing info to hurt Trump and help Biden. Once the public sees them cutting Trump's mic in an actual debate it's really going to sink in. It's going to piss people off.
we'd have an endless news cycle on big meanie bully coward Trump being
too afraid to debate Sundown.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (8YFRI)
Disagree. The big story the past couple weeks is the media suppressing info to hurt Trump and help Biden. Once the public sees them cutting Trump's mic in an actual debate it's really going to sink in. It's going to piss people off.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:13 AM (CQ3Qb)
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"Democracy" is the lynch mob wanting to drag Charlie Luckless out of the jail and string 'im up.
A "republic" is when law enforcement and the courts say, "You've got to try him fairly in a court of law first." And not only can back that up, but also do back it up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (wQDH5)
Exactly. For whatever reason "our side" became really lax about pointing this out.
A "republic" is when law enforcement and the courts say, "You've got to try him fairly in a court of law first." And not only can back that up, but also do back it up.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:10 AM (wQDH5)
Exactly. For whatever reason "our side" became really lax about pointing this out.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (y7DUB)
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No government works at the scale that the US government is at, if by "working" you mean providing any semblance of functional rational decisionmaking in support of a group of people. It's too big. Governments are too big everywhere in the west.
Even the English are engaged in a death-struggle to force their government to obey them.
Something like Switzerland might be the largest that things scale before turning rotten.
Right now America is a country full of decent people held hostage by an evil empire of bandits, liars, and thieves.
Even the English are engaged in a death-struggle to force their government to obey them.
Something like Switzerland might be the largest that things scale before turning rotten.
Right now America is a country full of decent people held hostage by an evil empire of bandits, liars, and thieves.
Posted by: MadRocketSci at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (hRoyQ)
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Now he is known for a certain amount of puffery, but he liked almost giddy as he was talking. He isn't worried in the slightest.
************
I wish I could be a happy warrior like Trump, instead of the bitter, angry, cantankerous motherfucker I usually am.
get off my lawn
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I wish I could be a happy warrior like Trump, instead of the bitter, angry, cantankerous motherfucker I usually am.
get off my lawn
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (8YFRI)
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The last 2 polls in CA in 2016 showed a 20 point lead for Clinton. She ended up winning by 30. I wouldn't draw many conclusions from CA polls.
Posted by: Asshoes at Octobe
Or any other polls
Posted by: Asshoes at Octobe
Or any other polls
Posted by: Ha at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (+jNil)
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THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
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Of course the problem with that sentiment is if the needs of me are consistently subordinated to the needs of other people I'm going to do the absolute minimum necessary to meet my needs so that there is no excess to be taken
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Of course the problem with that sentiment is if the needs of me are consistently subordinated to the needs of other people I'm going to do the absolute minimum necessary to meet my needs so that there is no excess to be taken
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (qlFIA)
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I wouldn't draw many conclusions from CA polls
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Oh so the polls were only off by 10 points there.
SCIENCE!
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Oh so the polls were only off by 10 points there.
SCIENCE!
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:15 AM (8YFRI)
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As a kid in 70s and 80s I remember the Soviets being a common villain in movies and TV. The common refrain from those characters was that America was "decadent" and weak. I always interpreted that as frivolous or something similar. And it is that, but I have come to understand it means a lot more, too.
This self indulgence to the point of full blown pathological narcissism that is not just present, but actively spoon fed to children and even adults in our society does make us weaker and it makes us less. We are lessor citizens of a free nation, as a people, than we once were.
We may fall yet the communists due to our decadence, it will just be the Chinese instead of the Soviets who will be our masters. If we don't reclaim our education system, and a move towards distance/internet learning may be the opportunity we need, those of us who value individual liberty will be slowly aged out.
This self indulgence to the point of full blown pathological narcissism that is not just present, but actively spoon fed to children and even adults in our society does make us weaker and it makes us less. We are lessor citizens of a free nation, as a people, than we once were.
We may fall yet the communists due to our decadence, it will just be the Chinese instead of the Soviets who will be our masters. If we don't reclaim our education system, and a move towards distance/internet learning may be the opportunity we need, those of us who value individual liberty will be slowly aged out.
Posted by: Bilwis Devourer of Innocent Souls, I'm starvin' over here at October 22, 2020 11:15 AM (Wm5SB)
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There was an official US Army field manual definition of "Democracy", prior to WWII and then post war, that shows the sleight-of-hand. Early descriptions said something like
"Rule by the masses. Results in license, agitation, discontent. Attitude towards property communistic. Mobocracy."
After the war, the official description was some vague anodyne nonsense. Aunt Bee running for public office style "The will of the people shall prevail!". Probably vetted by state department goons and that sort. Democracy is poison; more or less. The government was founded on that world view if you read the Federalist and other documents. They divided and separated powers, trusting neither Kings or Dictators, nor the people, at least not directly.
Democracy isn't a goal or destination, it is metely the method by which unscrupulous types gain control of the levers of power. They hate democracy more than anyone, probably.
It is no accident that Democrats are not democratic in the slightest.
"Rule by the masses. Results in license, agitation, discontent. Attitude towards property communistic. Mobocracy."
After the war, the official description was some vague anodyne nonsense. Aunt Bee running for public office style "The will of the people shall prevail!". Probably vetted by state department goons and that sort. Democracy is poison; more or less. The government was founded on that world view if you read the Federalist and other documents. They divided and separated powers, trusting neither Kings or Dictators, nor the people, at least not directly.
Democracy isn't a goal or destination, it is metely the method by which unscrupulous types gain control of the levers of power. They hate democracy more than anyone, probably.
It is no accident that Democrats are not democratic in the slightest.
Posted by: Common Tater at October 22, 2020 11:15 AM (E6qoh)
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*places hand with fingers spread on the radiation shielding*
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
Posted by: SPOCK
Rank collectivism.
Spoken by a science guy that was all logical and shit.
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
Posted by: SPOCK
Rank collectivism.
Spoken by a science guy that was all logical and shit.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at October 22, 2020 11:15 AM (vcOmj)
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The real problem with a pure democracy is that if 51% of the population decides it's a good idea to oppress the other 49%, the 49% quickly realize their only good option is to break out the guns and start shooting.
that's why pure democracies always end up destroying themselves.
that's why pure democracies always end up destroying themselves.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:15 AM (Kpl3J)
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Strictly speaking, in a Democracy the "rule of law" *is* the will of the majority. This is why constitutional Republics are a much better concept.
Jim Crow was the act of a Democracy.
The 14th Amendment was the act of a Constitutional Republic.
Really??? That is amazing news.
Best news week in ages.
So fun
Jim Crow was the act of a Democracy.
The 14th Amendment was the act of a Constitutional Republic.
Really??? That is amazing news.
Best news week in ages.
So fun
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (BoFYZ)
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>>41 The debate tonight is going to be a shitshow. They all but assured it will be a nice 90 minute infomercial for Sundown.
The moderator has been instructed to provide cover for Biden by adopting his "argot of incoherence." Doing so will make Trump appear the odd one out, play to Biden's strength, and will cause watchers to question their own command of the language.
"Mr. Biden, next question, apple. For you, the question. The time the, the, back in the fiddle when a codpiece, you know, jobs, real jobs, for real actual breathing people. Again?"
"So glad you asked. Yes, fiddle jobs, and apples in every pot. Trump says something, virus, but we have a plan for codpiece action."
"President Trump. Same question to you, sir. Different question. A, the question. Do you?"
"....!?...."
The moderator has been instructed to provide cover for Biden by adopting his "argot of incoherence." Doing so will make Trump appear the odd one out, play to Biden's strength, and will cause watchers to question their own command of the language.
"Mr. Biden, next question, apple. For you, the question. The time the, the, back in the fiddle when a codpiece, you know, jobs, real jobs, for real actual breathing people. Again?"
"So glad you asked. Yes, fiddle jobs, and apples in every pot. Trump says something, virus, but we have a plan for codpiece action."
"President Trump. Same question to you, sir. Different question. A, the question. Do you?"
"....!?...."
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (xK9An)
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Something like Switzerland might be the largest that things scale before turning rotten. Right now America is a country full of decent people held hostage by an evil empire of bandits, liars, and thieves.
I've wondered about this. Would we be better of, instead of fifty states, with a collection of less - but larger - entities ? Not now - the SouthEast and MidWest can't coexist with the NorthEast and WestCoast. But after everything sorts out - should we have a series of mergers ? I don't know.
I've wondered about this. Would we be better of, instead of fifty states, with a collection of less - but larger - entities ? Not now - the SouthEast and MidWest can't coexist with the NorthEast and WestCoast. But after everything sorts out - should we have a series of mergers ? I don't know.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (HreEk)
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"THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW"
Naive utilitarianism mistakenly believes you can derive some collective utility function from individual utility functions. False.
Naive utilitarianism mistakenly believes you can derive some collective utility function from individual utility functions. False.
Posted by: MadRocketSci at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (hRoyQ)
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A Republic can only exist as long as its power is divided. And as we've seen, any central authority will always pursue - and get - that power. I'm not real optimistic than a Republic can survive long term.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (HreEk)
We're pretty much the sole exception...barely.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:12 AM (HreEk)
We're pretty much the sole exception...barely.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (y7DUB)
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Disagree. The big story the past couple weeks is the media suppressing info to hurt Trump and help Biden. Once the public sees them cutting Trump's mic in an actual debate it's really going to sink in. It's going to piss people off.
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I hope so, I really want the world to see once and for all Sundown for who he really is. Maybe allowing him to ramble on to the point of babbling incoherence will do it.
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I hope so, I really want the world to see once and for all Sundown for who he really is. Maybe allowing him to ramble on to the point of babbling incoherence will do it.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (8YFRI)
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The story will be that the Russians stole it for Trump again with the laptop disinformation. That fake laptop is the only reason Trump closed the 14 point lead everyone knew Biden had.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (CQ3Qb)
The democrats must be getting tired of the Russians exposing their very real e-mails showing them to be corrupt scumbags.
I guess not being a corrupt scumbag never occurred to the democrats.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:11 AM (CQ3Qb)
The democrats must be getting tired of the Russians exposing their very real e-mails showing them to be corrupt scumbags.
I guess not being a corrupt scumbag never occurred to the democrats.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (1ISKN)
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I know what my "needs" are.
Who determines what the needs of "the many" are?
Some jerkoffs in a Bipartisan Committee somewhere, that's who.
So ultimately the Needs of the Me outweigh the Needs of the You.
Which boils down to who has the pointier stick.
Who determines what the needs of "the many" are?
Some jerkoffs in a Bipartisan Committee somewhere, that's who.
So ultimately the Needs of the Me outweigh the Needs of the You.
Which boils down to who has the pointier stick.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (6FeV1)
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CBD:
Send this to the cretin at The New Republic who is calling for the removal of our Constitution.
Send it wrapped in that most popular mode of communication of "the majority."
A brick. Like Ignatz communicating his love for Krazy Kat.
And light it on fire for more emphasis.
CBD:
Send this to the cretin at The New Republic who is calling for the removal of our Constitution.
Send it wrapped in that most popular mode of communication of "the majority."
A brick. Like Ignatz communicating his love for Krazy Kat.
And light it on fire for more emphasis.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (s2VJv)
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A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it.
Posted by: I M Simpleton at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (jQBOW)
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One thing we really won't know until Election Day itself is the willingness of people to stand in line for hours on end in order to vote, and I'm talking 3-plus hours. I think that's one reason for the surge in early voting, that people know the lines are likely going to be really long across the country on November 3. Around where I live the early voting lines are long enough that people are recommending others to bring lawn chairs with them.
Posted by: Vendette at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (WE8fG)
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Can folks here suggest good basic civics books?
Check Hillsdale College. Sometimes they have free courses.
Check Hillsdale College. Sometimes they have free courses.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (cJEnq)
98
Just a thought for tonight. If someone is having a negative view of the debate and thinks things are going awful for Trump, don't start accusing them of being a troll socking a regular just because their assessment is different than yours.
Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (TO9X0)
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I'm going to do the absolute minimum necessary to meet my needs so that there is no excess to be taken Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (qlFIA)>>>
Sympathetic to this line of reasoning. However, tptb will know how productive you were in the past, therefore "slacking-off" will be regarded as stealing from the People. There will be ways to get your mind right.
Sympathetic to this line of reasoning. However, tptb will know how productive you were in the past, therefore "slacking-off" will be regarded as stealing from the People. There will be ways to get your mind right.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (LGXGf)
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""The People" are the ones rioting in our streets and enthusiastically
supporting vicious policies of inequality: affirmative action,
reparations, defunding the police, and on and on and on."
imo the mobs in the street are astroturfed, paid to give the appearance of "Democracy in Action" or whatever. They do NOT represent "The People". (except to the extent other external efforts have marched through our institutions and brainwashed the masses with America hate).
But the point still stands ... quite frequently the people have a general desire for "fairness", but that is twisted by the leftists to be a desire for communism and equal outcomes. But centralized power has almost always resulted in those in control of the power abusing the masses, to the point of open rebellion or collapse.
Recall Guatemala, and the efforts of Zelaya to extend the term limits and run for a third term. Term limits for president reduce the ability of a dictatorship to form, so their courts and legislature (?) lgally removed/stopped Zelaya from his illegal efforts. He had ties to drug cartels of course, (and Hillary of course had her hands in the fiasco, but I forget details).
Pelosi stutters about our military forcibly removing Trump from the White House, but the Guatemala military did just that to Zelaya, on order from their supreme court. But Zelaya was illegally running for a third term. My point ... Zelaya did have popular support ("democracy in action") from the ignorant masses. This is a problem through all the cartel run narco states, even if they call themselves Republics.
supporting vicious policies of inequality: affirmative action,
reparations, defunding the police, and on and on and on."
imo the mobs in the street are astroturfed, paid to give the appearance of "Democracy in Action" or whatever. They do NOT represent "The People". (except to the extent other external efforts have marched through our institutions and brainwashed the masses with America hate).
But the point still stands ... quite frequently the people have a general desire for "fairness", but that is twisted by the leftists to be a desire for communism and equal outcomes. But centralized power has almost always resulted in those in control of the power abusing the masses, to the point of open rebellion or collapse.
Recall Guatemala, and the efforts of Zelaya to extend the term limits and run for a third term. Term limits for president reduce the ability of a dictatorship to form, so their courts and legislature (?) lgally removed/stopped Zelaya from his illegal efforts. He had ties to drug cartels of course, (and Hillary of course had her hands in the fiasco, but I forget details).
Pelosi stutters about our military forcibly removing Trump from the White House, but the Guatemala military did just that to Zelaya, on order from their supreme court. But Zelaya was illegally running for a third term. My point ... Zelaya did have popular support ("democracy in action") from the ignorant masses. This is a problem through all the cartel run narco states, even if they call themselves Republics.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (Cus5s)
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*places hand with fingers spread on the radiation shielding*
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
Posted by: SPOCK
Pointy-eared, green-blooded bastard!
THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
Posted by: SPOCK
Pointy-eared, green-blooded bastard!
Posted by: Dr. Leonard McCoy at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (Izzlo)
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If you make me your leader I promise to be a compassionate authoritarian.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (dNzKv)
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THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW
Posted by: SPOCK at October 22, 2020 11:13 AM (13aiU)
Where this idea always fails us the assumption that a small group of bureaucrats, aristocrats, nobles, or intellectual elites can comprehend the whole picture of what people need, and not get lost in a fog of personal bias and groupthink.
This assumption has never been borne out by experience or experiment.
What experience and history tell us quite plainly is that people pursuing their own interests make better decisions than some centralized ruling clique in a distant capitol.
Posted by: SPOCK at October 22, 2020 11:13 AM (13aiU)
Where this idea always fails us the assumption that a small group of bureaucrats, aristocrats, nobles, or intellectual elites can comprehend the whole picture of what people need, and not get lost in a fog of personal bias and groupthink.
This assumption has never been borne out by experience or experiment.
What experience and history tell us quite plainly is that people pursuing their own interests make better decisions than some centralized ruling clique in a distant capitol.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (qH2iN)
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Didn't we used to arrest people when they tried to overthrow the Constitution.?
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (qlFIA)
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In fact, a sip of bourbon will be taken every time Biden says "codpiece action" or "apple sandwich," or "up your giggy with a Wawa brush, stick it in and break it off."
Promises to be a long night.
Promises to be a long night.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (xK9An)
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>>Our country is being undermined by a dumb barista.
I think she is dumb, but she's not that dumb.
She's working with very smart people, such as the Justice Democrats founders (experienced political operatives), to muddy the water for the LIVs in order to sell them Socialism.
The Idiocracy's pied piper.
I think she is dumb, but she's not that dumb.
She's working with very smart people, such as the Justice Democrats founders (experienced political operatives), to muddy the water for the LIVs in order to sell them Socialism.
The Idiocracy's pied piper.
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (bDqIh)
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@LLinWood
Lots of news & rumblings this morning of things to come.
I heard a rumor that former FBI Director James Comey might be defendant in a major civil lawsuit to be filed in next few weeks.
I know the source of the rumor. He is informed & very credible.
Every lie will be revealed.
Lots of news & rumblings this morning of things to come.
I heard a rumor that former FBI Director James Comey might be defendant in a major civil lawsuit to be filed in next few weeks.
I know the source of the rumor. He is informed & very credible.
Every lie will be revealed.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
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Hunter Explains Why Harris was chose for VP!
Appears Kamala is in Hunters emails as key contact for Chinese biz ventures'
Boooooom
Appears Kamala is in Hunters emails as key contact for Chinese biz ventures'
Boooooom
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (3aLWR)
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There has never been a Marxist form of government that has been Democratic. All are run by party members, and by the central committees of the party, and a sitting board within the central committee. No system has LESS democracy, in fact.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (bCLt0)
110
Biden win something like jellyfish, mister. Or it win him.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (xK9An)
111
I came looking for the art thread but fell out the window.
Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (dQF3z)
112
Anytime you hear anyone start a sentence with "I feel like..." you know you are listening to a dumb ass.
That is all.
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
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I really don't think many of the 30 Freshmen Democrats from Trump districts are going to make it to a second term.
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Angie Craig has begun running ads on bringing jobs to MN back from China lol. A former Marine - Tyler Kistner - is running against her, no idea how it's shaping up.
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Angie Craig has begun running ads on bringing jobs to MN back from China lol. A former Marine - Tyler Kistner - is running against her, no idea how it's shaping up.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (xWWdO)
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James Comey might be defendant in a major civil lawsuit to be filed in next few weeks
**************
I'm guessing specifically it will be in the next
#TwoWeeks
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I'm guessing specifically it will be in the next
#TwoWeeks
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (8YFRI)
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98 Just a thought for tonight. If someone is having a negative view of the debate and thinks things are going awful for Trump, don't start accusing them of being a troll socking a regular just because their assessment is different than yours.
Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (TO9X0)
It should also be emphasized 9 hours in advance that this is not a debate. It is the Democrats last desperate attempt to smear the President in front of a national audience.
If you keep that foremost in your mind, what the President says and does, or even how he reacts, is essentially not that important.
Goofy Joey's and Welker's actions will be the tell. That has to put what Trump does in perspective.
YMMV.
Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (TO9X0)
It should also be emphasized 9 hours in advance that this is not a debate. It is the Democrats last desperate attempt to smear the President in front of a national audience.
If you keep that foremost in your mind, what the President says and does, or even how he reacts, is essentially not that important.
Goofy Joey's and Welker's actions will be the tell. That has to put what Trump does in perspective.
YMMV.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (s2VJv)
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But when the rule of law can be overwhelmed by a simple majority, even the most romantic notions of democracies fail.
You are seeing an interesting example of this in the Portland area - there is now a 1% income tax "to help the homeless" that only applies to the "rich" - defined as people earning more than $125,000 or more.
A "free childcare" bill on the ballot in Multnomah County (Portland's county) is funded with a 1.5% tax on income over $200,000, and a 3.0% tax on income over $400,000.
This childcare tax is being openly marketed as "a tax that you don't have to pay" - supporters are reassuring people that only 8% of the people in Multnomah County will pay anything with the new tax.
When the childcare tax passes (which it will), Multnomah County will have the highest marginal income tax, given Oregon's hefty state income tax.
I expect to see future taxes in Portland that look just like this, given the success of the first two.
It will be a disaster, of course - you can avoid all state and local income taxes by moving your residence and income just north of Portland to the state of Washington.
More fundamentally, revenues from this tax will crash every time there is an economic downturn, since even wealthy people tend to have large reductions in income during recessions.
Fred may make $600,000, and pay $9,000 in childcare tax in good times, but if his income drops to $200,000 during a recession, he pays no childcare tax at all.
Yeah, there's a problem in giving the electorate unlimited power to increase taxes on other people.
You are seeing an interesting example of this in the Portland area - there is now a 1% income tax "to help the homeless" that only applies to the "rich" - defined as people earning more than $125,000 or more.
A "free childcare" bill on the ballot in Multnomah County (Portland's county) is funded with a 1.5% tax on income over $200,000, and a 3.0% tax on income over $400,000.
This childcare tax is being openly marketed as "a tax that you don't have to pay" - supporters are reassuring people that only 8% of the people in Multnomah County will pay anything with the new tax.
When the childcare tax passes (which it will), Multnomah County will have the highest marginal income tax, given Oregon's hefty state income tax.
I expect to see future taxes in Portland that look just like this, given the success of the first two.
It will be a disaster, of course - you can avoid all state and local income taxes by moving your residence and income just north of Portland to the state of Washington.
More fundamentally, revenues from this tax will crash every time there is an economic downturn, since even wealthy people tend to have large reductions in income during recessions.
Fred may make $600,000, and pay $9,000 in childcare tax in good times, but if his income drops to $200,000 during a recession, he pays no childcare tax at all.
Yeah, there's a problem in giving the electorate unlimited power to increase taxes on other people.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (I2/tG)
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Of course the problem with that sentiment is if the needs of me are consistently subordinated to the needs of other people I'm going to do the absolute minimum necessary to meet my needs so that there is no excess to be taken
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (qlFIA)
And wants are manipulated to look like "needs"
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (qlFIA)
And wants are manipulated to look like "needs"
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (ONvIw)
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At this point, I'm convinced the media only continues with the "Biden is
up 12 points" narrative is so they can spend half the election night
talking about "what Trump did" to "close the gap" as well as talk about
the shy trump voter, what the polls missed, etc.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
The story will be that the Russians stole it for Trump again with the laptop disinformation. That fake laptop is the only reason Trump closed the 14 point lead everyone knew Biden had.
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When we turn the power off on Nov 2 and leave it off until Nov 4th it will be useful to show that Biden had a lead early since those will be the ballots that will be counted to decide the "winner". Ha ha. I'm so much very cleverer than you all. Just give up now.
up 12 points" narrative is so they can spend half the election night
talking about "what Trump did" to "close the gap" as well as talk about
the shy trump voter, what the polls missed, etc.
This will be a short election night, and they need coverage to stretch their viewership into the early morning hours.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:07 AM (ZR7kf)
The story will be that the Russians stole it for Trump again with the laptop disinformation. That fake laptop is the only reason Trump closed the 14 point lead everyone knew Biden had.
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When we turn the power off on Nov 2 and leave it off until Nov 4th it will be useful to show that Biden had a lead early since those will be the ballots that will be counted to decide the "winner". Ha ha. I'm so much very cleverer than you all. Just give up now.
Posted by: soros at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (1M9bb)
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I'm working from home tomorrow, so I might stay up and watch a little of Trump Throws Down on Biden. Will Ace have video of it? CSpan?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (wQDH5)
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The rapist is going to call the laptop a confusing conspiracy theory, he wants to talk about bread and butter kitchen table issues, Trump had a hidden chinese account and ivanka's company made millions in china after trump was elected.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (dNzKv)
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>>I'm guessing specifically it will be in the next
>>#TwoWeeks
The whole two weeks thing doesn't sound so great today.
>>#TwoWeeks
The whole two weeks thing doesn't sound so great today.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (ZLI7S)
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109 There has never been a Marxist form of government that has been Democratic. All are run by party members, and by the central committees of the party, and a sitting board within the central committee. No system has LESS democracy, in fact.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (bCLt0)
Vietnam is fairly democratic (as in, has legitimate, contested elections), right?
Then again, Vietnam is only successful because they've jettisoned just about everything about "communism" but the label....
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (bCLt0)
Vietnam is fairly democratic (as in, has legitimate, contested elections), right?
Then again, Vietnam is only successful because they've jettisoned just about everything about "communism" but the label....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
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Breitbart has Kamala emails from Hunter laptop
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (3aLWR)
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If you make me your leader I promise to be a compassionate authoritarian.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
ALL HAIL Cat Ass!
Cat Ass, our leader!
Hurrah! Hurrah!
Please don't hurt us too much.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
ALL HAIL Cat Ass!
Cat Ass, our leader!
Hurrah! Hurrah!
Please don't hurt us too much.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (vcOmj)
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108 Hunter Explains Why Harris was chose for VP!
Appears Kamala is in Hunters emails as key contact for Chinese biz ventures'
Boooooom
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (3aLWR)
Link?
Appears Kamala is in Hunters emails as key contact for Chinese biz ventures'
Boooooom
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:19 AM (3aLWR)
Link?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (5eu7W)
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Sympathetic to this line of reasoning. However, tptb will know how productive you were in the past, therefore "slacking-off" will be regarded as stealing from the People. There will be ways to get your mind right.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (LGXGf)
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This isn't the nightmare scenario of a dystopian future, either. The state does this (or can, if it wishes) *today* in the context of family court when it comes to setting alimony and child support.
If you earn, say, $50k but the judge thinks (because of your skills or prior history or whatever) that you could earn $100k if you wanted to and were willing to work for it, he can "impute" your income at $100k and set your alimony and child support based on that. Then you may be in a position of having to pay more than you net after taxes, or land in jail. So you go find a way to earn more, or you check in to the Graybar Hotel.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (LGXGf)
+++++++++++
This isn't the nightmare scenario of a dystopian future, either. The state does this (or can, if it wishes) *today* in the context of family court when it comes to setting alimony and child support.
If you earn, say, $50k but the judge thinks (because of your skills or prior history or whatever) that you could earn $100k if you wanted to and were willing to work for it, he can "impute" your income at $100k and set your alimony and child support based on that. Then you may be in a position of having to pay more than you net after taxes, or land in jail. So you go find a way to earn more, or you check in to the Graybar Hotel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)
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I looked a bit at the Morning Consult poll, wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas. I think I see the potential reason, although nothing will be certain until after the election. It looks like they rely exclusively on online profiles and online contacts; they do a lot of them, and they do have a reputation for accuracy. But I suspect this causes them to be focused on urban areas and urban voters, and to miss most hispanics and many of the voters who are outside of the 15 high population counties. This screws up pollsters in Texas all the time - the 15 highest population counties might be 60/40 for Biden, that's his base - but the other 239 counties are going to be 80/20 Trump. That's what I think they're missing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (Kpl3J)
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112 Anytime you hear anyone start a sentence with "I feel like..." you know you are listening to a dumb ass.
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
I feel like a glass of bourbon.
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
I feel like a glass of bourbon.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:22 AM (6FeV1)
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>>120 The rapist is going to call the laptop a confusing conspiracy theory, he wants to talk about bread and butter kitchen table issues, Trump had a hidden chinese account and ivanka's company made millions in china after trump was elected.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (dNzKv)
If you randomly rearrange the wording in this paragraph after the word "call," you have an approximation of Biden's opening statement.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (dNzKv)
If you randomly rearrange the wording in this paragraph after the word "call," you have an approximation of Biden's opening statement.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:22 AM (xK9An)
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Every lie will be revealed.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S
Civil suits. Barr is either to cowardly or too conflicted to bring criminal charges.
Sad and pathetic.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S
Civil suits. Barr is either to cowardly or too conflicted to bring criminal charges.
Sad and pathetic.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:22 AM (ONvIw)
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>>imo the mobs in the street are astroturfed, paid to give the appearance of "Democracy in Action" or whatever. They do NOT represent "The People". (except to the extent other external efforts have marched through our institutions and brainwashed the masses with America hate).
Yeah, didja notice how almost all of the riots just stopped in mid-September, right after some polling came out that Americans overwhelmingly hated them and blamed them on Democrats?
Like, how do you just "turn off" an organic, grassroots nationwide movement like that????
Yeah, didja notice how almost all of the riots just stopped in mid-September, right after some polling came out that Americans overwhelmingly hated them and blamed them on Democrats?
Like, how do you just "turn off" an organic, grassroots nationwide movement like that????
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:22 AM (bDqIh)
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118 Ha ha. I'm so much very cleverer than you all. Just give up now.
Posted by: soros at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (1M9bb)
Election Night with Biden allegedly ahead would be a most propitious time for, say, an EMP attack...
Posted by: soros at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (1M9bb)
Election Night with Biden allegedly ahead would be a most propitious time for, say, an EMP attack...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:22 AM (s2VJv)
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The whole two weeks thing doesn't sound so great today.
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Yeah but One Week just doesn't have the same zing to it.
************
Yeah but One Week just doesn't have the same zing to it.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:22 AM (8YFRI)
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Mollie @MZHemingway
·
30m
!! In text messages obtained by
@FDRLST , Hunter Biden's biz partner James Gilliar admonished Tony Bobulinski on May 20, 2017: "Don't mention Joe being involved, it's only when you are face to face[.]"
And then he brings up Hunter's role in a 2020 Joe Biden presidential campaign.
I suppose this could be the text Trump reads aloud tonight while the moderator pushing the mute button through the floor repeatedly.
·
30m
!! In text messages obtained by
@FDRLST , Hunter Biden's biz partner James Gilliar admonished Tony Bobulinski on May 20, 2017: "Don't mention Joe being involved, it's only when you are face to face[.]"
And then he brings up Hunter's role in a 2020 Joe Biden presidential campaign.
I suppose this could be the text Trump reads aloud tonight while the moderator pushing the mute button through the floor repeatedly.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (sfhL4)
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A willowed comment of mine from art thread. To avoid unsafe rise in blood pressure, I advise NOT watching the Felliniesque Spectacle tonight, and stay here at AoS for the commentary of the Intrepid Viewers.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (bCLt0)
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The whole two weeks thing doesn't sound so great today.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (ZLI7S)
Well DOJ had about 4 years, and ran the clock.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (ZLI7S)
Well DOJ had about 4 years, and ran the clock.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (ONvIw)
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88 "Something like Switzerland might be the largest that things scale before turning rotten. Right now America is a country full of decent people held hostage by an evil empire of bandits, liars, and thieves."
I've wondered about this. Would we be better of, instead of fifty states, with a collection of less - but larger - entities ? Not now - the SouthEast and MidWest can't coexist with the NorthEast and WestCoast. But after everything sorts out - should we have a series of mergers ? I don't know.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (HreEk)
The formation of an abusive administrative state isn't purely a function of size. We can all think of states and even cities where the government is run by a cloistered elite.
Things are entropic, the institutions of man are temporal. Just like everyone else, we'll have to do a new iteration every now and then. We should be looking at what went well, what went poorly, what things are inevitable due to human nature. It may be that we can fix some things but other things we can only delay or ameliorate, maybe planning to make the next reset easier would also be smart.
I've wondered about this. Would we be better of, instead of fifty states, with a collection of less - but larger - entities ? Not now - the SouthEast and MidWest can't coexist with the NorthEast and WestCoast. But after everything sorts out - should we have a series of mergers ? I don't know.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (HreEk)
The formation of an abusive administrative state isn't purely a function of size. We can all think of states and even cities where the government is run by a cloistered elite.
Things are entropic, the institutions of man are temporal. Just like everyone else, we'll have to do a new iteration every now and then. We should be looking at what went well, what went poorly, what things are inevitable due to human nature. It may be that we can fix some things but other things we can only delay or ameliorate, maybe planning to make the next reset easier would also be smart.
Posted by: Someguy at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (Zm+LZ)
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So you go find a way to earn more, or you check in to the Graybar Hotel.
***
this exact scenario has also led to a number of killings
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this exact scenario has also led to a number of killings
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (qlFIA)
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Old and busted: William S. Burroughs "cut-up" method.
New hotness: Joe Biden, Orator.
New hotness: Joe Biden, Orator.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (xK9An)
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Gah, I'm cringing thinking of the debate tonight.
Please, please Great Magnificent Golden Scalp Weasel, maintain calm and finish Biden, even with Karen the Moderator against you.
Please, please Great Magnificent Golden Scalp Weasel, maintain calm and finish Biden, even with Karen the Moderator against you.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (ptqGC)
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Yeah, there's a problem in giving the electorate unlimited power to increase taxes on other people.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (I2/tG)
The thing is - how do you stop it ? I see only one way - a weaker Federal Government. But this is the problem - a lot of people on both sides of the aisle like a really strong Fed. They just like that Fed to behave "their" way.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (I2/tG)
The thing is - how do you stop it ? I see only one way - a weaker Federal Government. But this is the problem - a lot of people on both sides of the aisle like a really strong Fed. They just like that Fed to behave "their" way.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (HreEk)
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Paul Sperry @paulsperry_
·
17m
BREAKING: Trump is polling slightly better with blacks (9%) and Hispanics (30%) this election than he did in 2016, according to latest IBD/TIPP Poll crosstabs
well, the only true polls are on election day
we cannot get cocky
·
17m
BREAKING: Trump is polling slightly better with blacks (9%) and Hispanics (30%) this election than he did in 2016, according to latest IBD/TIPP Poll crosstabs
well, the only true polls are on election day
we cannot get cocky
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (sfhL4)
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97 Second Hillsdale. They always have free online courses and the Constitution course includes the paperback volume to accompany the course. https://online.hillsdale.edu/#home
Posted by: Jen the original at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (SArft)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
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Anytime you hear anyone start a sentence with "I feel like..." you know you are listening to a dumb ass.
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
I feel like a glass of bourbon.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020
*
*
So you're smooth and clear, with golden-brown fluid inside?
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
I feel like a glass of bourbon.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020
*
*
So you're smooth and clear, with golden-brown fluid inside?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (wQDH5)
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138 So you go find a way to earn more, or you check in to the Graybar Hotel.
***
this exact scenario has also led to a number of killings
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (qlFIA)
There actually is a Graybar Building in NYC. Across from the Chrysler Building.
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this exact scenario has also led to a number of killings
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (qlFIA)
There actually is a Graybar Building in NYC. Across from the Chrysler Building.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (s2VJv)
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Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
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BUT I was assured by the "Knowledgeable People" here that nothing was going to happen
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BUT I was assured by the "Knowledgeable People" here that nothing was going to happen
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (pE+Yq)
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (ZLI7S)
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Kamala listed as key contact for Chinese Business ventures with Biden's
https://tinyurl.com/y65e87vy
https://tinyurl.com/y65e87vy
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (3aLWR)
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Just a thought for tonight. If someone is having a negative view of the debate and thinks things are going awful for Trump, don't start accusing them of being a troll socking a regular just because their assessment is different than yours.
Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (TO9X0)
that's why we have "Eeyore."
Posted by: Buzzion at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (TO9X0)
that's why we have "Eeyore."
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (dLkYS)
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61
The 14th Amendment was the act of a Constitutional Republic.
Bull. And Shit..
All 3 of the War amendments were run through without the willing participation of all the states. Senators who opposed the amendments were denied seats. States who refused to pass them had their legislatures disbanded and compliant ones seated.
In a just world all three would be stricken. And a saner world would result.
The 14th Amendment was the act of a Constitutional Republic.
Bull. And Shit..
All 3 of the War amendments were run through without the willing participation of all the states. Senators who opposed the amendments were denied seats. States who refused to pass them had their legislatures disbanded and compliant ones seated.
In a just world all three would be stricken. And a saner world would result.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (UCCfH)
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If you earn, say, $50k but the judge thinks (because of your skills or prior history or whatever) that you could earn $100k if you wanted to and were willing to work for it, he can "impute" your income at $100k and set your alimony and child support based on that. Then you may be in a position of having to pay more than you net after taxes, or land in jail. So you go find a way to earn more, or you check in to the Graybar Hotel.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)
I know a relative with a good friend in Missouri that happened to, an Optometrist. He had to flee Missouri and move to a small town in Northern Arizona and set up a cash-only shop to get out from under his exes thumb. The state wouldn't set up an extradition for back alimony - but he can never set foot in Missouri again.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)
I know a relative with a good friend in Missouri that happened to, an Optometrist. He had to flee Missouri and move to a small town in Northern Arizona and set up a cash-only shop to get out from under his exes thumb. The state wouldn't set up an extradition for back alimony - but he can never set foot in Missouri again.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (Kpl3J)
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Hillsdale is great AND the Prager U videos on YouTube or at FrontpageMag.com
Hillsdale is great AND the Prager U videos on YouTube or at FrontpageMag.com
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (s2VJv)
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"Civics, American History, Political Science...apparently none are taught anymore,"
What trenchant analysis. Are democrats the real racists? Is diversity our strength? Do black lives matter? Is orange man bad?
I guess what is most demoralizing about conservatives is that you are just NPCs too. This country has been circling the bowl since Obama and you just now realize every single institution in this country has been co-opted by your enemies. And your solution is, of course, tolerance and bipartisanship.
What trenchant analysis. Are democrats the real racists? Is diversity our strength? Do black lives matter? Is orange man bad?
I guess what is most demoralizing about conservatives is that you are just NPCs too. This country has been circling the bowl since Obama and you just now realize every single institution in this country has been co-opted by your enemies. And your solution is, of course, tolerance and bipartisanship.
Posted by: TrumpedUP at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (jsNGa)
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122
Vietnam is fairly democratic (as in, has legitimate, contested elections), right?
Then again, Vietnam is only successful because they've jettisoned just about everything about "communism" but the label....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
Agree. Vietnam is " Communist" in name only, from what I can gather. They DO like kicking ChiCom ass too, it seems.
Vietnam is fairly democratic (as in, has legitimate, contested elections), right?
Then again, Vietnam is only successful because they've jettisoned just about everything about "communism" but the label....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
Agree. Vietnam is " Communist" in name only, from what I can gather. They DO like kicking ChiCom ass too, it seems.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (bCLt0)
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It should also be emphasized 9 hours in advance that this is not a debate. It is the Democrats last desperate attempt to smear the President in front of a national audience.
If you keep that foremost in your mind, what the President says and does, or even how he reacts, is essentially not that important.
Goofy Joey's and Welker's actions will be the tell. That has to put what Trump does in perspective.
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every once in a great while a lawyer may find himself in front of a very very hostile judge who is actively trying to influence the jury against the lawyer's case. In that situation, it may occur that the lawyer isn't so much trying to win, as he is trying to create a mistrial, or a situation that is such a mess that it will be seen as inherently biased and its result therefore not a true judgment. If you really get the judge wound up, you can create a good enough record to have the judgment reversed and the judge disqualified. Admittedly its hard to do. Only seen it a few times in decades, but have seen many many hostile judges.
It should also be emphasized 9 hours in advance that this is not a debate. It is the Democrats last desperate attempt to smear the President in front of a national audience.
If you keep that foremost in your mind, what the President says and does, or even how he reacts, is essentially not that important.
Goofy Joey's and Welker's actions will be the tell. That has to put what Trump does in perspective.
======
every once in a great while a lawyer may find himself in front of a very very hostile judge who is actively trying to influence the jury against the lawyer's case. In that situation, it may occur that the lawyer isn't so much trying to win, as he is trying to create a mistrial, or a situation that is such a mess that it will be seen as inherently biased and its result therefore not a true judgment. If you really get the judge wound up, you can create a good enough record to have the judgment reversed and the judge disqualified. Admittedly its hard to do. Only seen it a few times in decades, but have seen many many hostile judges.
Posted by: simplemind at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (5rCaW)
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Can folks here suggest good basic civics books?
Check Hillsdale College. Sometimes they have free courses.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (cJEnq)
I'm almost through the Constitution 101 and can recommend it. It has filled in some blanks for me that have existed for a long time. For example, all the way back in grade school I couldn't figure out why the French and Indian War was such a big fucking deal only to have the dots connected that by removing a world class ass kicker from being a present danger it enabled the colonists to think "we need these asshole redcoats like a third nut".
There's an extensive study guide which I haven't bought which would make an excellent civics reference book. The course itself is free but I made a small donation.
Check Hillsdale College. Sometimes they have free courses.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 22, 2020 11:17 AM (cJEnq)
I'm almost through the Constitution 101 and can recommend it. It has filled in some blanks for me that have existed for a long time. For example, all the way back in grade school I couldn't figure out why the French and Indian War was such a big fucking deal only to have the dots connected that by removing a world class ass kicker from being a present danger it enabled the colonists to think "we need these asshole redcoats like a third nut".
There's an extensive study guide which I haven't bought which would make an excellent civics reference book. The course itself is free but I made a small donation.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (y7DUB)
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If you make me your leader I promise to be a compassionate authoritarian.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
ALL HAIL Cat Ass!
Cat Ass, our leader!
Hurrah! Hurrah!
Please don't hurt us too much.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (vcOmj)
Ah, but if you make ME your leader, I promise to crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentations of their women!!!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
ALL HAIL Cat Ass!
Cat Ass, our leader!
Hurrah! Hurrah!
Please don't hurt us too much.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (vcOmj)
Ah, but if you make ME your leader, I promise to crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentations of their women!!!
Posted by: Archer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (gmo/4)
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Monster Force
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (ifmtJ)
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Molly's tweet has been discredited
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (dNzKv)
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I advise NOT watching the Felliniesque Spectacle tonight, and stay here at AoS for the commentary of the Intrepid Viewers.
Posted by: tubal
I'm ready, and my nic is ready.
Posted by: tubal
I'm ready, and my nic is ready.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (vcOmj)
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In a just world all three would be stricken. And a saner world would result.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (UCCfH)
A world that brought back slavery? I don't think so.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (UCCfH)
A world that brought back slavery? I don't think so.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (Kpl3J)
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Simple democracy means that 50.1% of the people can start the day by pissing in the cornflakes of the other 49.9% of the people.
Remember, voting for a Demcrat, any Demcrat is a moral crime.
Remember, voting for a Demcrat, any Demcrat is a moral crime.
Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (d6mdH)
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I try to do something about flaccid assumptions, and look at the grief I get.
Posted by: J. Toomer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (DMUuz)
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The Founders were well-versed in the problems with democracy. It was a monarchial age so anti-democracy thoughts were quite prevalent and often not far from the surface were class-based disdain/distrust of the commoners.
But the trick/key to The Founders' success was they also developed a disdain or at least distrust for "The Elite" since while locally quite elite themselves (and on any sort of absolute scale pretty elite), they had just been pretty heavily dicked over by the English elites.
So, The Founders distrusted everyone, pretty much, and planned accordingly.
But the trick/key to The Founders' success was they also developed a disdain or at least distrust for "The Elite" since while locally quite elite themselves (and on any sort of absolute scale pretty elite), they had just been pretty heavily dicked over by the English elites.
So, The Founders distrusted everyone, pretty much, and planned accordingly.
Posted by: All Just Part of the Plan at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (dYe5S)
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Now substitute multinational corporations and large NGO's for the State because that is where current threat exist as well.
Also, it used to be recognized by a few brave objective political scientists that Tyranny of the Minority was a problem that was and continues to be exploited in our Constitutional Republic.
And look where we are today.
Also, it used to be recognized by a few brave objective political scientists that Tyranny of the Minority was a problem that was and continues to be exploited in our Constitutional Republic.
And look where we are today.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (W8o7h)
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I agree with Troy Aikman and Joe Buck, we should shut down the NFL. Get rid of the whole league due to its carbon footprint. Let the wife-beaters, rapists and other assorted criminals get jobs in the real world. When the bars finally open up again I'm sure we'll need bouncers. Soon enough we'll see them all at #FightFor15 marches.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (lRrON)
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And the smallest minority is the individual.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ifmtJ)
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So you're smooth and clear, with golden-brown fluid inside?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (wQDH5)
Moar water, please!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (wQDH5)
Moar water, please!
Posted by: Kidneys at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (/6GbT)
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Correction: the Indian guy is running against Dan Crenshaw
TX-7 in west Houston was a flip. Less than 2 point win by Hillary.
The Dem lady has a very solid challenger in the black man.
TX-32 was also a flip. Same, >2 for Hillary. Here, the black man is challenged by a white female.
TX-7 in west Houston was a flip. Less than 2 point win by Hillary.
The Dem lady has a very solid challenger in the black man.
TX-32 was also a flip. Same, >2 for Hillary. Here, the black man is challenged by a white female.
Posted by: RoyalOil at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (21f02)
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There is no system that can't be used to destroy itself.
Our system of three "checks" has been coopted to become a system where there are three different chances to force your will through. To have a triumph of the will, if you will.
If the people won't vote your way on an issue, then create some legislation. If the legislation fails, have the Executive write an order. If you don't have the Executive then ram it through the courts.
That's not what teh system was designed for!
And if those three ways don't work - then just lie and cheat and the rest will take care of itself.
Our system of three "checks" has been coopted to become a system where there are three different chances to force your will through. To have a triumph of the will, if you will.
If the people won't vote your way on an issue, then create some legislation. If the legislation fails, have the Executive write an order. If you don't have the Executive then ram it through the courts.
That's not what teh system was designed for!
And if those three ways don't work - then just lie and cheat and the rest will take care of itself.
Posted by: ... at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ht815)
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BUT I was assured by the "Knowledgeable People" here that nothing was going to happen
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (pE+Yq)
And nothing has, not from the DOJ which has been touted as full of integrity. Now we have Giuliani having to come in and push out the info Barr has been hiding. The Sessions/Rosenstein/Barr cabal has been pathetic.
BUT I was assured by the "Knowledgeable People" here that nothing was going to happen
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:24 AM (pE+Yq)
And nothing has, not from the DOJ which has been touted as full of integrity. Now we have Giuliani having to come in and push out the info Barr has been hiding. The Sessions/Rosenstein/Barr cabal has been pathetic.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
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164 I try to do something about flaccid assumptions, and look at the grief I get.
Posted by: J. Toomer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (DMUuz)
"It's NOT a Toobin!"
(wait for the swelling to go down)
Posted by: J. Toomer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (DMUuz)
"It's NOT a Toobin!"
(wait for the swelling to go down)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (s2VJv)
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The debate tonight is going to be a shitshow. They all but assured it will be a nice 90 minute infomercial for Sundown.
I would say Trump should have boycotted it but then we'd have an endless news cycle on big meanie bully coward Trump being too afraid to debate Sundown.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (8YFRI)
I was going to watch it, but I'm depressed and angry enough.
I'll get JJs take on it tomorrow morning.
I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
I would say Trump should have boycotted it but then we'd have an endless news cycle on big meanie bully coward Trump being too afraid to debate Sundown.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:09 AM (8YFRI)
I was going to watch it, but I'm depressed and angry enough.
I'll get JJs take on it tomorrow morning.
I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
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Make Loyalty Oaths Great Again!
Exile all others to their utopia of choice: North Korea, Venezuela, China, Cuba, Iran, et. al.
Exile all others to their utopia of choice: North Korea, Venezuela, China, Cuba, Iran, et. al.
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (WqPYg)
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167 I agree with Troy Aikman and Joe Buck, we should shut down the NFL. Get rid of the whole league due to its carbon footprint. Let the wife-beaters, rapists and other assorted criminals get jobs in the real world. When the bars finally open up again I'm sure we'll need bouncers. Soon enough we'll see them all at #FightFor15 marches.
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (lRrON)
Joe and Hunter lead the Fight for !2 movement!
Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (lRrON)
Joe and Hunter lead the Fight for !2 movement!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (s2VJv)
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174 I was going to watch it, but I'm depressed and angry enough.
I'll get JJs take on it tomorrow morning.
I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
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I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
I'll get JJs take on it tomorrow morning.
I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
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I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
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Re the polls accuracy vis-vis Hispanics, I date Latin women almost exclusively, and in my experience neither they nor their families would ever respond to a government or media inquiry into their business like that.
It's all the census people can do to get an inaccurate (reduced) count of how many members are living in their households bc they all have family members here illegally or, at best, have nationalized but don't want the risk or headache.
If you don't know them personally and speak native Spanish then you aren't being told the full story.
Reminds me a lot of my Italian and Arab relatives. People poking around and asking questions are not your friends.
It's all the census people can do to get an inaccurate (reduced) count of how many members are living in their households bc they all have family members here illegally or, at best, have nationalized but don't want the risk or headache.
If you don't know them personally and speak native Spanish then you aren't being told the full story.
Reminds me a lot of my Italian and Arab relatives. People poking around and asking questions are not your friends.
Posted by: Blacksheep at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (6mvRv)
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Reading TechnoFogs twitter feed
Ghislaine Maxwell is shrewd and is very good at denying, deflecting and acting clueless.
Ghislaine Maxwell is shrewd and is very good at denying, deflecting and acting clueless.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (sfhL4)
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The Collected Wisdom of the Horde could be a best seller
Chapters on democracy, political campaigns, Guns, polling, boobehs, carrots, maple syrup...,
Chapters on democracy, political campaigns, Guns, polling, boobehs, carrots, maple syrup...,
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (BoFYZ)
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Remember when Rasmussen's poll showed Trump dropping like a rock a month ago?
He's at 52% today. His highest on record.
https://thepalmierireport.com/poll-trumps-approval-hits-52/
He's at 52% today. His highest on record.
https://thepalmierireport.com/poll-trumps-approval-hits-52/
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (ZR7kf)
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I wish I had taken a screen shot of Chris "The Thumb" Stirewalt earlier.
He was sporting a goofy bow tie and horned rimmed glasses. I actually laughed out loud. His jowls were hanging down over his collar.
He was sporting a goofy bow tie and horned rimmed glasses. I actually laughed out loud. His jowls were hanging down over his collar.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (ptqGC)
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A group called Future Forward USA Action is running a creepy commercial on Detroit television, apparently, to scare Detroiters - blacks - into voting.
The commercial says that while voting is secret, the national rolls are updated after the election to show everyone who voted. If you do not vote now, your family, friends and neighbors will be able to tell that you DID NOT VOTE.
Have a plan and arrange to vote early NOW or on Election Day so people will know you did your civic duty.
I couldn't find the commercial on YouTube but I did find the groups crappy 3 page or so website.
The Dems must be terrified if they've skipped appealing to black voters and have moved onto fear tactics. On the plus side, this is the last few months of 2020 and people are all feared out.
The commercial says that while voting is secret, the national rolls are updated after the election to show everyone who voted. If you do not vote now, your family, friends and neighbors will be able to tell that you DID NOT VOTE.
Have a plan and arrange to vote early NOW or on Election Day so people will know you did your civic duty.
I couldn't find the commercial on YouTube but I did find the groups crappy 3 page or so website.
The Dems must be terrified if they've skipped appealing to black voters and have moved onto fear tactics. On the plus side, this is the last few months of 2020 and people are all feared out.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (v2c9/)
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First time unemployment claims at the lowest level since March. The economy is roaring back. Which is why the MSM is back to WE NEED LOCKDOWNS!!
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (22mNy)
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With a vote of 12 ayes to 10 filled diapers, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
Posted by: Downcast at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (yj4Ag)
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Ah, but if you make ME your leader, I promise to crush your enemies. See them driven before you. And hear the lamentations of their women!!!
Posted by: Archer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (gmo/4)
That's not how you get elected. You tell people you are compassionate, do whatever you want, when people complain, you say "I can't be what you say I am, I ran as compassionate!"
Posted by: Archer at October 22, 2020 11:26 AM (gmo/4)
That's not how you get elected. You tell people you are compassionate, do whatever you want, when people complain, you say "I can't be what you say I am, I ran as compassionate!"
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (dNzKv)
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CBD, you are assuming that the kids in public schools are being taught the details, much less the beauty of the Constitution.
In their defense, if Constitutional knowledge isn't important to the Leftist teacher, it's not going to be important to the students.
In their defense, if Constitutional knowledge isn't important to the Leftist teacher, it's not going to be important to the students.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (dTmdP)
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Democracies were attempted in Greece and Rome with disastrous results. There is historical evidence that at least in one town in the Roman empire there was even an election for who got to collect piss.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (1ISKN)
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Will not watch the spectacle tonight. Why? We know what it will be.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (bCLt0)
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I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
I watched a clip of Jason Whitlock interviewing DJT where he recommended letting Sundown talk uninterruptedly until he paints himself into a corner or just starts randomly tossing out complete gibberish.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
I watched a clip of Jason Whitlock interviewing DJT where he recommended letting Sundown talk uninterruptedly until he paints himself into a corner or just starts randomly tossing out complete gibberish.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (y7DUB)
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The Sessions/Rosenstein/Barr cabal has been pathetic.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
________
"WTF are we, chopped suey?" -- Wray and Haspel
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
________
"WTF are we, chopped suey?" -- Wray and Haspel
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (WqPYg)
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In explaining America's bedrock principles to the last two generations who have been miseducated on purpose, you cannot be too basic. Simply point out that politicians are not particularly smart and experts are almost always wrong about important things. People with money and power always buy influence with the vary politicians sent to the halls of power to enact the people's will.
Posted by: iandeal at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (vgGyZ)
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (pE+Yq)
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If nominated as your leader, I will not accept. If elected, I will not serve.
I may, however, continue to issue the occasional pun or Dad joke.
I may, however, continue to issue the occasional pun or Dad joke.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (DMUuz)
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Private school was worth every dime if just for Civics, World, and US History.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
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Then again, Vietnam is only successful because they've jettisoned just about everything about "communism" but the label....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
As has China, truth be told. It's basically full-on Fascism, now.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
As has China, truth be told. It's basically full-on Fascism, now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (dLkYS)
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It is the individual whom I trust, and American Exceptionalism placed him at the forefront.
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CBD- I think you are right at the crux of the matter. Neither of the two polar extremes of pure individualism versus the good of the commons are viable. On the one hand you get libertarianism at best or more likely anarchy and chaos. On the other hand you get big government at best and more likely totalitarian communism.
The beauty of our founding documents, and what is truly exceptional in the American ideal is the notion of the individual spirit tempered by a sense of civic responsibility.
These, in proper balance give the possibility of restraint in government, shared morality and charitableness.
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CBD- I think you are right at the crux of the matter. Neither of the two polar extremes of pure individualism versus the good of the commons are viable. On the one hand you get libertarianism at best or more likely anarchy and chaos. On the other hand you get big government at best and more likely totalitarian communism.
The beauty of our founding documents, and what is truly exceptional in the American ideal is the notion of the individual spirit tempered by a sense of civic responsibility.
These, in proper balance give the possibility of restraint in government, shared morality and charitableness.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (m45I2)
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ppMjB)
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"WTF are we, chopped suey?" -- Wray and Haspel
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (WqPYg)
Moo Goo Gai Pan
"WTF are we, chopped suey?" -- Wray and Haspel
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (WqPYg)
Moo Goo Gai Pan
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)
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Just had a senior client program manager say "Those Indians are just so so stubborn!" on a call. Out loud. El oh el.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (xWWdO)
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He's at 52% today. His highest on record.
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Two points better than Obama during the same period in 2012. Obama if I remember right was underwater until early November when suddenly his Rasmussen approval ratings spiked to 50+ and stayed there until after the election.
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Two points better than Obama during the same period in 2012. Obama if I remember right was underwater until early November when suddenly his Rasmussen approval ratings spiked to 50+ and stayed there until after the election.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (8YFRI)
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I was going to watch it, but I'm depressed and angry enough.
I'll get JJs take on it tomorrow morning.
I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
I think Trump was still not quite over the Chink Stink when he was fighting Biden and Wallace.
I think he knows how they will attack him - Coronavirus failure - and will act accordingly. Just let Biden start rambling and then in no time he'll be sundowning and call time on himself.
Trump can just go right ahead with China, which sequels nicely insofar as Biden called Trump's travel ban racist and xenophobic. Natural in to talk about the graft and when Welker hits the mute button, it'll be the same as Dorsey and Zuckerberg in the minds of most people. I think. I hope.
Trump will do fine. The debate won't hurt him but it can only help seal the deal. I think the election will be a Trump blowout, in any case.
I was going to watch it, but I'm depressed and angry enough.
I'll get JJs take on it tomorrow morning.
I hope and pray Teh Donald reduces Stinkfinger to a screaming, pant-shitting wreck.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (2JVJo)
I think Trump was still not quite over the Chink Stink when he was fighting Biden and Wallace.
I think he knows how they will attack him - Coronavirus failure - and will act accordingly. Just let Biden start rambling and then in no time he'll be sundowning and call time on himself.
Trump can just go right ahead with China, which sequels nicely insofar as Biden called Trump's travel ban racist and xenophobic. Natural in to talk about the graft and when Welker hits the mute button, it'll be the same as Dorsey and Zuckerberg in the minds of most people. I think. I hope.
Trump will do fine. The debate won't hurt him but it can only help seal the deal. I think the election will be a Trump blowout, in any case.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (s2VJv)
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I wish I could be a happy warrior like Trump, instead of the bitter, angry, cantankerous motherfucker I usually am.
get off my lawn
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (8YFRI)
I recommend cow cuddling.
get off my lawn
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (8YFRI)
I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Trump just posted the 60 Minutes interview: https://t.co/ETDJzMQg8X
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (CQ3Qb)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (dTmdP)
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I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (WEBkv)
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Chapters on democracy, political campaigns, Guns, polling, boobehs, carrots, maple syrup...,
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (BoFYZ)
Crossbows and longbows...
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (BoFYZ)
Crossbows and longbows...
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est, Post-Apocalyptic Scourge of the Seas at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (qH2iN)
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THE NEEDS OF THE MANY OUTWEIGH THE NEEDS OF THE FEW"
Naive utilitarianism mistakenly believes you can derive some collective utility function from individual utility functions. False.
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Don't make me come after you Pon Far style with the long stick with a cudgel on one end and the blade on the other
*vocalizes musical theme from episode in the manner of Jim Carey's Cableguy*
Naive utilitarianism mistakenly believes you can derive some collective utility function from individual utility functions. False.
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Don't make me come after you Pon Far style with the long stick with a cudgel on one end and the blade on the other
*vocalizes musical theme from episode in the manner of Jim Carey's Cableguy*
Posted by: SPOCK at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (8NpQI)
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199
"WTF are we, chopped suey?" -- Wray and Haspel
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (WqPYg)
Moo Goo Gai Pan
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)
Moo Goo Gai Porn (actual porn title that is rather appropriate given Hunter's laptop).
"WTF are we, chopped suey?" -- Wray and Haspel
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:30 AM (WqPYg)
Moo Goo Gai Pan
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)
Moo Goo Gai Porn (actual porn title that is rather appropriate given Hunter's laptop).
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (s2VJv)
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The Collected Wisdom of the Horde could be a best seller
Chapters on democracy, political campaigns, Guns, polling, boobehs, carrots, maple syrup...,
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (BoFYZ)
Too much text...not enough pictures.
Chapters on democracy, political campaigns, Guns, polling, boobehs, carrots, maple syrup...,
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (BoFYZ)
Too much text...not enough pictures.
Posted by: BignJames at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (AwYPR)
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The Sessions/Rosenstein/Barr cabal has been pathetic.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
********
Charlie Brown's Teacher
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
********
Charlie Brown's Teacher
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (pE+Yq)
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>>Posted by: TrumpedUP at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM
Your concern is:
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not noted
[x] Ignored
Your concern is:
[ ] Noted
[ ] Not noted
[x] Ignored
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (bDqIh)
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@LLinWood
Lots of news & rumblings this morning of things to come.
I heard a rumor that former FBI Director James Comey might be defendant in a major civil lawsuit to be filed in next few weeks.
I know the source of the rumor. He is informed & very credible.
Every lie will be revealed.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
~~~~~
I'm so excited!
Lots of news & rumblings this morning of things to come.
I heard a rumor that former FBI Director James Comey might be defendant in a major civil lawsuit to be filed in next few weeks.
I know the source of the rumor. He is informed & very credible.
Every lie will be revealed.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
~~~~~
I'm so excited!
Posted by: IrishEi at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (sGotD)
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Trump will do fine. The debate won't hurt him but it
can only help seal the deal. I think the election will be a Trump
blowout, in any case.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (s2VJv)
From your fingers to God's ears. Trump needs to let Joe ramble, stumble, and forget where he is. And Joe will lie. Oh, yes, he will most certainly lie. Trump can nail him on his lies.
can only help seal the deal. I think the election will be a Trump
blowout, in any case.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (s2VJv)
From your fingers to God's ears. Trump needs to let Joe ramble, stumble, and forget where he is. And Joe will lie. Oh, yes, he will most certainly lie. Trump can nail him on his lies.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: phoenixgirl at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (CqHIp)
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You'll see.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (ZLI7S)
I've been waiting for the big indictments since Sessions/Huber/Rosenstein. I've seen nothing but stall tactics.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:25 AM (ZLI7S)
I've been waiting for the big indictments since Sessions/Huber/Rosenstein. I've seen nothing but stall tactics.
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (ONvIw)
217
I looked a bit at the Morning Consult poll,
wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas. I
think I see the potential reason, although nothing will be certain
until after the election. It looks like they rely exclusively on
online profiles and online contacts; they do a lot of them, and they do
have a reputation for accuracy. But I suspect this causes them to be
focused on urban areas and urban voters, and to miss most hispanics and
many of the voters who are outside of the 15 high population counties.
This screws up pollsters in Texas all the time - the 15 highest
population counties might be 60/40 for Biden, that's his base - but the
other 239 counties are going to be 80/20 Trump. That's what I think
they're missing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM
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They did the same thing in 2014 when mcconnell was running against grimes. They kept over sampling Lexington and Louisville while neglecting the rest of the State. Some of the polls had grimes within a couple of points of mcconnell two weeks before the election.
All of the big newspapers there were crowing about how she was on track to take down mcconnell come election day.
mcconnell beat her by 16 points.
wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas. I
think I see the potential reason, although nothing will be certain
until after the election. It looks like they rely exclusively on
online profiles and online contacts; they do a lot of them, and they do
have a reputation for accuracy. But I suspect this causes them to be
focused on urban areas and urban voters, and to miss most hispanics and
many of the voters who are outside of the 15 high population counties.
This screws up pollsters in Texas all the time - the 15 highest
population counties might be 60/40 for Biden, that's his base - but the
other 239 counties are going to be 80/20 Trump. That's what I think
they're missing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM
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They did the same thing in 2014 when mcconnell was running against grimes. They kept over sampling Lexington and Louisville while neglecting the rest of the State. Some of the polls had grimes within a couple of points of mcconnell two weeks before the election.
All of the big newspapers there were crowing about how she was on track to take down mcconnell come election day.
mcconnell beat her by 16 points.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (JUOKG)
218
Some of the polls showing Biden way ahead may be food for the "Trump Cheated!" mantra should Trump win.
Posted by: Javems at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (ofIwF)
219
I know that the political parties just sort of evolved and aren't set up in the Constitution. But since we are a two party system, we need to get rid of the notion of jungle primaries. It disenfrancises voters. Let Democrat run against Democrat in the primaries but mandate that the run off will be between two different parties.
Posted by: notsothoreau at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (JKNZq)
220
>>I've been waiting for the big indictments since Sessions/Huber/Rosenstein. I've seen nothing but stall tactics. Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:33 AM (ONvIw)
Waiting for indictments is like giving CPR to a severed head.
Waiting for indictments is like giving CPR to a severed head.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (xK9An)
Posted by: JT at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (arJlL)
222
Saw a great take on Biden's town hall:
Is America ready for a boring president?
Joe Biden's town hall was refreshingly unremarkable
Huh.
Is America ready for a boring president?
Joe Biden's town hall was refreshingly unremarkable
Huh.
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (WLHrn)
223
There is historical evidence that at least in one town in the Roman empire there was even an election for who got to collect piss.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM
Urine was a valuable commodity, used fordry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
224
this exact scenario has also led to a number of killings
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (qlFIA)
And probably an untold number of once productive Americans living poor, but free, in non-extradition countries.
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (qlFIA)
And probably an untold number of once productive Americans living poor, but free, in non-extradition countries.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (dLkYS)
225
Private school was worth every dime if just for Civics, World, and US History.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
I paid out the wazz for a pricey private school for my younger daughter and it was money well spent. But even they can't totally escape the stench of the Bill Ayers educrat industry.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
I paid out the wazz for a pricey private school for my younger daughter and it was money well spent. But even they can't totally escape the stench of the Bill Ayers educrat industry.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (y7DUB)
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135 A willowed comment of mine from art thread. To avoid unsafe rise in blood pressure, I advise NOT watching the Felliniesque Spectacle tonight, and stay here at AoS for the commentary of the Intrepid Viewers.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (bCLt0)
True that. And I'll note that a "tubal" is one quantum of "toobin" before the video stream is viewed and collapses from repulsive nondeterministic particles to a repulsive observable wave.
--- phoney baloney physics professor, Dr. Banana
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:23 AM (bCLt0)
True that. And I'll note that a "tubal" is one quantum of "toobin" before the video stream is viewed and collapses from repulsive nondeterministic particles to a repulsive observable wave.
--- phoney baloney physics professor, Dr. Banana
Posted by: banana Dream at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (TIB+h)
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196 Then again, Vietnam is only successful because they've jettisoned just about everything about "communism" but the label....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
As has China, truth be told. It's basically full-on Fascism, now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (dLkYS)
I agree, although I would call it old-style Chinese Imperialism. They've gone back to an updated and reformed version of the same government they've had for about 2200 years now. They use the word "communist" because it's a nice cover for a system where You are the Property of the Emperor, and you will be told what to do by a Bureaucracy that controls every facet of your lives.
which is what the Left wants to impose here.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:21 AM (6FeV1)
As has China, truth be told. It's basically full-on Fascism, now.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (dLkYS)
I agree, although I would call it old-style Chinese Imperialism. They've gone back to an updated and reformed version of the same government they've had for about 2200 years now. They use the word "communist" because it's a nice cover for a system where You are the Property of the Emperor, and you will be told what to do by a Bureaucracy that controls every facet of your lives.
which is what the Left wants to impose here.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (Kpl3J)
228
Reading TechnoFogs twitter feed
Ghislaine Maxwell is shrewd and is very good at denying, deflecting and acting clueless.
======
Trained operative.
Ghislaine Maxwell is shrewd and is very good at denying, deflecting and acting clueless.
======
Trained operative.
Posted by: mossad at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (35Ep8)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (+y/Ru)
230
Troy was just another NeverTrumper piss ant, throwing out a slam about Trump.
We see this garbage in Seattle all the time.
We see this garbage in Seattle all the time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (dTmdP)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (v2c9/)
232
217 They did the same thing in 2014 when mcconnell was running against grimes. They kept over sampling Lexington and Louisville while neglecting the rest of the State. Some of the polls had grimes within a couple of points of mcconnell two weeks before the election.
All of the big newspapers there were crowing about how she was on track to take down mcconnell come election day.
mcconnell beat her by 16 points.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (JUOKG)
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This crap doesn't discourage anyone on the other side to vote.
It probably does get Republicans to misallocate resources.
"Should I donate to this guy who, according to the polls, has no chance, or to the other guy who, according to the polls, is in a close race?"
*first guy loses by a slim margin*
*second guy wins big*
All of the big newspapers there were crowing about how she was on track to take down mcconnell come election day.
mcconnell beat her by 16 points.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (JUOKG)
===========
This crap doesn't discourage anyone on the other side to vote.
It probably does get Republicans to misallocate resources.
"Should I donate to this guy who, according to the polls, has no chance, or to the other guy who, according to the polls, is in a close race?"
*first guy loses by a slim margin*
*second guy wins big*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (NWM+b)
233
Just checked now: Obama was at 47% approval rating on Oct 28th, then to 50%+ beginning November to Election Day.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (8YFRI)
234
At bottom, there are only two political philosophies: individualism and collectivism. The first is good, the second evil.
Posted by: Brett at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (C1BP9)
235
Chris Wallace warns Trump not to mention the Biden scandal or else Biden will bring up Trump's secret Chinese bank account!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (CQ3Qb)
236
200 Just had a senior client program manager say "Those Indians are just so so stubborn!" on a call. Out loud. El oh el.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (xWWdO)
Casino or 7-11?
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (xWWdO)
Casino or 7-11?
Posted by: I'm Joe Biden and I approve this mess at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (Izzlo)
237
I think the election will be a Trump blowout, in any case.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
=====
Concur
Posted by: JT at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM
WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
=====
Concur
Posted by: JT at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM
WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (DMUuz)
238
222 Saw a great take on Biden's town hall:
Is America ready for a boring president?
Joe Biden's town hall was refreshingly unremarkable
Huh.
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (WLHrn)
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This is why Scott Walker became the Republican nominee in 2016 after the "exciting" Barack Obama.
America wanted a boring president.
Is America ready for a boring president?
Joe Biden's town hall was refreshingly unremarkable
Huh.
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (WLHrn)
==========
This is why Scott Walker became the Republican nominee in 2016 after the "exciting" Barack Obama.
America wanted a boring president.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (NWM+b)
239
No offense tubal just riding the snark wave.
Posted by: banana Dream at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (TIB+h)
240
Biden up by eleventy.
What time are the Biden fireworks?
What time are the Biden fireworks?
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (XdJb+)
241
228 Reading TechnoFogs twitter feed
Ghislaine Maxwell is shrewd and is very good at denying, deflecting and acting clueless.
======
Trained operative.
Posted by: mossad at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (35Ep
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I think she wants to stay alive.
Ghislaine Maxwell is shrewd and is very good at denying, deflecting and acting clueless.
======
Trained operative.
Posted by: mossad at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (35Ep
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I think she wants to stay alive.
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (G0vdT)
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235 Chris Wallace warns Trump not to mention the Biden scandal or else Biden will bring up Trump's secret Chinese bank account!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (CQ3Qb)
So secret that Chris Wallace knows about it. I.E., it's a lie.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (CQ3Qb)
So secret that Chris Wallace knows about it. I.E., it's a lie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
243
198
123 Breitbart has Kamala emails from Hunter laptop
A joke? Not a joke?
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ppMjB)
_________
Headline at Breitbart:
Report: Kamala Harris Listed as 'Key Contact' for Biden Family Business Venture in China[/b[
198
123 Breitbart has Kamala emails from Hunter laptop
A joke? Not a joke?
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (ppMjB)
_________
Headline at Breitbart:
Report: Kamala Harris Listed as 'Key Contact' for Biden Family Business Venture in China[/b[
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (WqPYg)
244
231 Oh, ACB is approved by Senate Judiciary Committee - Townhall...
In case people haven't heard...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (v2c9/)
Oh, THAT. Okay, now back to fretting about tonight's Democrat shitshow.
231 Oh, ACB is approved by Senate Judiciary Committee - Townhall...
In case people haven't heard...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 11:35 AM (v2c9/)
Oh, THAT. Okay, now back to fretting about tonight's Democrat shitshow.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (bCLt0)
245
With a vote of 12 ayes to 10 filled diapers, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved Judge Amy Coney Barrett.
Posted by: Downcast at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (yj4Ag)
I found this tweet amusing earlier
Lindsey Granite unleashed! Now moving four more candidates to the senate floor with the DemoKKKrats boycotting.
This is better than when the Russkies boycotted the UN Security Council and the UN declared war on N Korea!
Posted by: Downcast at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM (yj4Ag)
I found this tweet amusing earlier
Lindsey Granite unleashed! Now moving four more candidates to the senate floor with the DemoKKKrats boycotting.
This is better than when the Russkies boycotted the UN Security Council and the UN declared war on N Korea!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (sfhL4)
246
The irony is if Roberts would have been on the SCOTUS in 2000, there would be no CJ Roberts
they would still be counting
they would still be counting
Posted by: REDACTED at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (R3uW8)
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (XdJb+)
248
221 I think the election will be a Trump blowout, in any case.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Concur
---------------------
I've known this for over two years. Once Mueller went down in flames its been cartoon gaslighting forever. This is why I come here to fling poo at my homies.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Concur
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I've known this for over two years. Once Mueller went down in flames its been cartoon gaslighting forever. This is why I come here to fling poo at my homies.
Posted by: Puddin Head at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (VOSAg)
249
I looked a bit at the Morning Consult poll,
wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas.
***************
57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead.
But yeah Texas is a tossup.
wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas.
***************
57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead.
But yeah Texas is a tossup.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (8YFRI)
250
WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (DMUuz)
We Live Not So Softly Else Others Do Queer Yodeling?
WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (DMUuz)
We Live Not So Softly Else Others Do Queer Yodeling?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (s2VJv)
251
I think the election will be a Trump blowout, in any case.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Oh, I hope and pray you're right. My prog in-laws and their hell spawn might finally STHU.
I really hope the Hunter emails and nasty pics come out, so even progs can't help but know what the Bidens are guilty of. I want my MIL and the rest to hang their heads in shame.
Hey, MIL. You voted for a guy who knew his son was molesting his own granddaughter. How does that make you feel?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Oh, I hope and pray you're right. My prog in-laws and their hell spawn might finally STHU.
I really hope the Hunter emails and nasty pics come out, so even progs can't help but know what the Bidens are guilty of. I want my MIL and the rest to hang their heads in shame.
Hey, MIL. You voted for a guy who knew his son was molesting his own granddaughter. How does that make you feel?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (ptqGC)
252
223 There is historical evidence that at least in one town in the Roman empire there was even an election for who got to collect piss.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Yup, used by tanners and for bleaching. There used to be piss pots on the ground floor of all Roman apartments.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Yup, used by tanners and for bleaching. There used to be piss pots on the ground floor of all Roman apartments.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: JT at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (+y/Ru)
255
247 WLNSSEODQY.
What did you say?
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (XdJb+)
Don't worry about it.
What did you say?
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (XdJb+)
Don't worry about it.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (/EuRN)
256
I think she wants to stay alive.
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (G0vdT)
********
NAH! go checkout who her daddy was
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (G0vdT)
********
NAH! go checkout who her daddy was
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (pE+Yq)
257
So secret that Chris Wallace knows about it. I.E., it's a lie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
It's not a lie, Trump had a business in China many years ago. It's not a secret though.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
It's not a lie, Trump had a business in China many years ago. It's not a secret though.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (CQ3Qb)
258
@realDonaldTrump
Obama is campaigning for us. Every time he speaks, people come over to our side. He didn't even want to endorse Sleepy Joe. Did so long after primaries were over!
I love this. We should ban politicians from politics, because people like Trump are so much more fun.
Obama is campaigning for us. Every time he speaks, people come over to our side. He didn't even want to endorse Sleepy Joe. Did so long after primaries were over!
I love this. We should ban politicians from politics, because people like Trump are so much more fun.
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (B2mhs)
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (22mNy)
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
261
239 No offense tubal just riding the snark wave.
Posted by: banana Dream at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (TIB+h)
We cool, we cool.
Posted by: banana Dream at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (TIB+h)
We cool, we cool.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (bCLt0)
262
I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020
*
*
Stone has the young Kathleen Turner.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020
*
*
Stone has the young Kathleen Turner.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (wQDH5)
263
257 So secret that Chris Wallace knows about it. I.E., it's a lie.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
It's not a lie, Trump had a business in China many years ago. It's not a secret though.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (CQ3Qb)
Was it above board and legal? I assume so. And he was a private citizen. And I also assume all of this was disclosed like four years ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (s2VJv)
It's not a lie, Trump had a business in China many years ago. It's not a secret though.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (CQ3Qb)
Was it above board and legal? I assume so. And he was a private citizen. And I also assume all of this was disclosed like four years ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (s2VJv)
264
Civics, American History, Political Science...apparently none are taught
anymore, because the level of idiocy, ignorance and flaccid assumptions
about our political structure are ubiquitous.
Well, yeah, they've admitted as much: https://tinyurl.com/zt6247p
anymore, because the level of idiocy, ignorance and flaccid assumptions
about our political structure are ubiquitous.
Well, yeah, they've admitted as much: https://tinyurl.com/zt6247p
Posted by: Bert G at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (OMsf+)
265
250
WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (DMUuz)
We Live Not So Softly Else Others Do Queer Yodeling?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (s2VJv)
Well
Lets
Not
Start
Sucking
Each
Other's
Dicks
Quite
Yet
...but your answer was funnier
WLNSSEODQY.
Posted by: Winston Wolfe at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (DMUuz)
We Live Not So Softly Else Others Do Queer Yodeling?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (s2VJv)
Well
Lets
Not
Start
Sucking
Each
Other's
Dicks
Quite
Yet
...but your answer was funnier
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (ifmtJ)
266
If anyone deserves to get assfucked by a narwhal, it'd be Piss Wallace.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (8YFRI)
267
260 For whatever is worth:
@LarrySchweikart
Palm Beach (county) down to 3.9% D lead.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
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I've finally returned to my old Twitter account to look in on stuff, and he's there all the time making me feel quite positive.
He also made me feel positive in 2018, so we'll see.
@LarrySchweikart
Palm Beach (county) down to 3.9% D lead.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
==========
I've finally returned to my old Twitter account to look in on stuff, and he's there all the time making me feel quite positive.
He also made me feel positive in 2018, so we'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (NWM+b)
268
I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
269
"The irony is if Roberts would have been on the SCOTUS in 2000, there would be no CJ Roberts"
IIRC Scotus ruled 7-2 in Bush's favor. Benedict Roberts would have made no difference.
IIRC Scotus ruled 7-2 in Bush's favor. Benedict Roberts would have made no difference.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (22mNy)
270
Young Kathleen Turner was, amazing.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (bCLt0)
271
So Obama held a campaign event and few showed up.
He should have brought his Styrofoam columns.
He should have brought his Styrofoam columns.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (XdJb+)
272
We Live Not So Softly Else Others Do Queer Yodeling?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (s2VJv)
I took Queer Yodeling as a phys-ed elective in college.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (s2VJv)
I took Queer Yodeling as a phys-ed elective in college.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (/EuRN)
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Just had a senior client program manager say "Those Indians are just so so stubborn!" on a call. Out loud. El oh el.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (xWWdO)
Casino or 7-11?
Posted by: I'm Joe Biden and I approve this mess at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (Izzlo)
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From Mumbai - followed it up with "I mean oh but they're such wonderful people though! I really..." etc etc. - painful.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (xWWdO)
Casino or 7-11?
Posted by: I'm Joe Biden and I approve this mess at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (Izzlo)
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From Mumbai - followed it up with "I mean oh but they're such wonderful people though! I really..." etc etc. - painful.
Posted by: jhawk90 at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (xWWdO)
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NPR, yikes
But the biggest reason you haven't heard much on NPR about the Post story is that the assertions don't amount to much.
"We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions," NPR Managing Editor for News Terence Samuel told me. "And quite frankly, that's where we ended up, this was ... a politically driven event and we decided to treat it that way."
defund 2021
But the biggest reason you haven't heard much on NPR about the Post story is that the assertions don't amount to much.
"We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions," NPR Managing Editor for News Terence Samuel told me. "And quite frankly, that's where we ended up, this was ... a politically driven event and we decided to treat it that way."
defund 2021
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (sfhL4)
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...but your answer was funnier
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (ifmtJ)
Ach SOOOOO!
...but your answer was funnier
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (ifmtJ)
Ach SOOOOO!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)
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262 I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (wQDH5)
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Ah, but Part II has a time traveling Delorean.
It's mostly a question if I make it to the library to pick up Romancing the Stone, though.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (wQDH5)
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Ah, but Part II has a time traveling Delorean.
It's mostly a question if I make it to the library to pick up Romancing the Stone, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (NWM+b)
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Human urine historical factoid: the Iberians used it to brush their teeth (how? Not sure).
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (ppMjB)
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You also use urine when dyeing indigo.
Posted by: notsothoreau at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (JKNZq)
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Of course the problem with that sentiment is if the needs of me are consistently subordinated to the needs of other people I'm going to do the absolute minimum necessary to meet my needs so that there is no excess to be taken
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (qlFIA)
THIS! I've already decided that if the worst happens and Harris wins, I'm retiring. Makes no sense to work only to support someone who won't.
Of course the problem with that sentiment is if the needs of me are consistently subordinated to the needs of other people I'm going to do the absolute minimum necessary to meet my needs so that there is no excess to be taken
Posted by: 18-1 at October 22, 2020 11:14 AM (qlFIA)
THIS! I've already decided that if the worst happens and Harris wins, I'm retiring. Makes no sense to work only to support someone who won't.
Posted by: BEN ROTHLESBERGER at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (Fs5vw)
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Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
Always getting on your dairy-air about trivial things....
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
Always getting on your dairy-air about trivial things....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (/EuRN)
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This screws up pollsters in Texas all the time - the 15 highest population counties might be 60/40 for Biden, that's his base - but the other 239 counties are going to be 80/20 Trump. That's what I think they're missing.
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You are on the right track, but it is a little more complex. It is an artifact of relying on single mode polling (pollster speak for how you take the poll).
I could write an essay on it, maybe after the election I'll beg one of the COBs for a post on why polls are wrong.
In any case, that poll is wrong, and they could have checked against actual early vote results to show the poll is wrong. All you have to do is look at the result you got form people saying they already voted and compare to how people already voted.
Posted by: Tom Servo
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You are on the right track, but it is a little more complex. It is an artifact of relying on single mode polling (pollster speak for how you take the poll).
I could write an essay on it, maybe after the election I'll beg one of the COBs for a post on why polls are wrong.
In any case, that poll is wrong, and they could have checked against actual early vote results to show the poll is wrong. All you have to do is look at the result you got form people saying they already voted and compare to how people already voted.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (5p7BC)
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219 I know that the political parties just sort of evolved and aren't set up in the Constitution. But since we are a two party system, we need to get rid of the notion of jungle primaries. It disenfrancises voters. Let Democrat run against Democrat in the primaries but mandate that the run off will be between two different parties.
That just encourages sock puppetry to be codified. i.e.
:I'm running as a progressive Democrat. That's completely different than running as a Democratic progressive. Just eliminate Jungles all together, and stop confusing or confounding PARTY elections with CIVIC elections. The State (national or local) has no business saying how a party runs it's election. It has every business saying how it conducts it's own.
That just encourages sock puppetry to be codified. i.e.
:I'm running as a progressive Democrat. That's completely different than running as a Democratic progressive. Just eliminate Jungles all together, and stop confusing or confounding PARTY elections with CIVIC elections. The State (national or local) has no business saying how a party runs it's election. It has every business saying how it conducts it's own.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (UCCfH)
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Supernatural is on tonight. Only 5 episodes left.
This year, more than most, I'm enjoying watching monsters die...
This year, more than most, I'm enjoying watching monsters die...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (v2c9/)
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There is historical evidence that at least in one town in the Roman empire there was even an election for who got to collect piss.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Yup, used by tanners and for bleaching. There used to be piss pots on the ground floor of all Roman apartments.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020
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Right. You couldn't just go down to the local Walmartius and buy a bottle of ammonia.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 22, 2020 11:29 AM
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Yup, used by tanners and for bleaching. There used to be piss pots on the ground floor of all Roman apartments.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020
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Right. You couldn't just go down to the local Walmartius and buy a bottle of ammonia.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (wQDH5)
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@LarrySchweikart
Palm Beach (county) down to 3.9% D lead.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
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I've finally returned to my old Twitter account to look in on stuff, and he's there all the time making me feel quite positive.
He also made me feel positive in 2018, so we'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (NWM+b)
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Unless I'm missing something, the numbers he provides are all for in person voting. Mail in ballots are not part of his data. So while this is encouraging, I'm not sure how meaningful it really is.
@LarrySchweikart
Palm Beach (county) down to 3.9% D lead.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
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I've finally returned to my old Twitter account to look in on stuff, and he's there all the time making me feel quite positive.
He also made me feel positive in 2018, so we'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (NWM+b)
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Unless I'm missing something, the numbers he provides are all for in person voting. Mail in ballots are not part of his data. So while this is encouraging, I'm not sure how meaningful it really is.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (22mNy)
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I hope so, I really want the world to see once and for all Sundown for who he really is. Maybe allowing him to ramble on to the point of babbling incoherence will do it.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (8YFRI)
Biden "... and that's, you know, when we get right down to brass tacks, the .. the people deserve better. To build it back, like, in the thing that we signed so many score years ago. In 1776. For the people, and the middle class. Poor people and white people, under, you know, the thing."
Trump: "Ms Welker, I'd like to cede my time so that Mr. Biden can further elaborate his thoughts for the American people."
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:16 AM (8YFRI)
Biden "... and that's, you know, when we get right down to brass tacks, the .. the people deserve better. To build it back, like, in the thing that we signed so many score years ago. In 1776. For the people, and the middle class. Poor people and white people, under, you know, the thing."
Trump: "Ms Welker, I'd like to cede my time so that Mr. Biden can further elaborate his thoughts for the American people."
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (b3x5S)
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274 NPR, yikes
But the biggest reason you haven't heard much on NPR about the Post story is that the assertions don't amount to much.
"We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions," NPR Managing Editor for News Terence Samuel told me. "And quite frankly, that's where we ended up, this was ... a politically driven event and we decided to treat it that way."
defund 2021
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (sfhL4)
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So, they ignored Russian collusion because it didn't amount to much, right?
But the biggest reason you haven't heard much on NPR about the Post story is that the assertions don't amount to much.
"We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions," NPR Managing Editor for News Terence Samuel told me. "And quite frankly, that's where we ended up, this was ... a politically driven event and we decided to treat it that way."
defund 2021
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (sfhL4)
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So, they ignored Russian collusion because it didn't amount to much, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (NWM+b)
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271 So Obama held a campaign event and few showed up.
He should have brought his Styrofoam columns.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (XdJb+)
You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
He should have brought his Styrofoam columns.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (XdJb+)
You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)
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SPONGE!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (Txle7)
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When Epstein was first tried in Florida, the US Attorney in Florida at the time (Acosta) said he was told that Epstein belonged to "intelligence".
@TechnoFog
Was Epstein working for the US government?
Epstein had told people "he worked for the government to recover stolen funds."
Maxwell: Don't recall those conversations.
Read Ghislaine Maxwell's full deposition here:
I think you are going to want to remember this. Epstein had claimed he was a "financial bounty hunter" and one of his clients was Adnan Khashoggi, the Saudi arms dealer, uncle of Jamal Khashoggi and one of he founders of The Safari Club.
Epstein was connected to CIA corruption as well as foreign corruption for a long, long time.
@TechnoFog
Was Epstein working for the US government?
Epstein had told people "he worked for the government to recover stolen funds."
Maxwell: Don't recall those conversations.
Read Ghislaine Maxwell's full deposition here:
I think you are going to want to remember this. Epstein had claimed he was a "financial bounty hunter" and one of his clients was Adnan Khashoggi, the Saudi arms dealer, uncle of Jamal Khashoggi and one of he founders of The Safari Club.
Epstein was connected to CIA corruption as well as foreign corruption for a long, long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (ZLI7S)
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Was it above board and legal?
You had to have an office in China if you wanted to do business in China. So Trump got an office in China.
I don't know if that requirement extends to all United States Congressmen.
You had to have an office in China if you wanted to do business in China. So Trump got an office in China.
I don't know if that requirement extends to all United States Congressmen.
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (/2aWP)
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I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate
You folks are certainly giving us something to ruminant about!
I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate
You folks are certainly giving us something to ruminant about!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (pNxlR)
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*Munkey*
*Munkey*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (EGyGV)
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Huh, new hash.
Since I'm at SeaTac on the way to Texas for some reason, guess that makes sense.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (dTmdP)
Safe travels, LCD, and have a fun!
Since I'm at SeaTac on the way to Texas for some reason, guess that makes sense.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:32 AM (dTmdP)
Safe travels, LCD, and have a fun!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (dLkYS)
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Was it above board and legal? I assume so. And he was a private citizen. And I also assume all of this was disclosed like four years ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (s2VJv)
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The MSMDNC Deep State axis has been trying to find dirt on President Trump for 6 years or more and the only thing they found was a bunch of made up nonsense.
They have no hold over President Trump and know it. It also scares and enrages the MSMDNC Deep State axis they cannot bend PDT to their will.
Was it above board and legal? I assume so. And he was a private citizen. And I also assume all of this was disclosed like four years ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (s2VJv)
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The MSMDNC Deep State axis has been trying to find dirt on President Trump for 6 years or more and the only thing they found was a bunch of made up nonsense.
They have no hold over President Trump and know it. It also scares and enrages the MSMDNC Deep State axis they cannot bend PDT to their will.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
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I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
Always getting on your dairy-air about trivial things....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020
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Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
Always getting on your dairy-air about trivial things....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (wQDH5)
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True that. And I'll note that a "tubal" is one quantum of "toobin" before the video stream is viewed and collapses from repulsive nondeterministic particles to a repulsive observable wave.
--- phoney baloney physics professor, Dr. Banana
Quantum physics. Reason # 3.6369*10^-4 m^2.s^-1 to come to AoSHQ.
--- phoney baloney physics professor, Dr. Banana
Quantum physics. Reason # 3.6369*10^-4 m^2.s^-1 to come to AoSHQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (DMUuz)
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I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
At some point this month I wanted to watch either Vampyre or Nosferatu and write a blog post for Hallowe'en, just as I did last year with Haxan.
Been too depressed to do it, though.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
At some point this month I wanted to watch either Vampyre or Nosferatu and write a blog post for Hallowe'en, just as I did last year with Haxan.
Been too depressed to do it, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (2JVJo)
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>>"We don't want to waste our time on stories that are not really stories, and we don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions,"
Gene Simmons' amusing takedown of Terry Gross wasn't really a story until it was. And then it was a great story, for which thanks, NPR.
Gene Simmons' amusing takedown of Terry Gross wasn't really a story until it was. And then it was a great story, for which thanks, NPR.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:43 AM (xK9An)
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Unless I'm missing something, the numbers he provides are all for in person voting. Mail in ballots are not part of his data. So while this is encouraging, I'm not sure how meaningful it really is.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (22mNy)
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He does include Mail In Ballots. He has a combined total that he runs through frequently.
Unless I'm missing something, the numbers he provides are all for in person voting. Mail in ballots are not part of his data. So while this is encouraging, I'm not sure how meaningful it really is.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (22mNy)
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He does include Mail In Ballots. He has a combined total that he runs through frequently.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:43 AM (NWM+b)
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The typical trajectory of pure democratic governance was played out during the Occupy Wall street nonsense.
1. Put everything to a vote
2. But wait, 50.1% of the people get to tell 49.9% what to do.
3. We need something more than a 'simple' majority
4. Since we all pretty much want the same things, let's say that all decisions require a consensus.
5. How much of a consensus? Oh, let's say 90%, okay?
6. This measure passes by 95-5 vote
7. Now 11% of the people get to tell 89% of the people what to do.,
1. Put everything to a vote
2. But wait, 50.1% of the people get to tell 49.9% what to do.
3. We need something more than a 'simple' majority
4. Since we all pretty much want the same things, let's say that all decisions require a consensus.
5. How much of a consensus? Oh, let's say 90%, okay?
6. This measure passes by 95-5 vote
7. Now 11% of the people get to tell 89% of the people what to do.,
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 11:43 AM (m45I2)
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Trump: "Ms Welker, I'd like to cede my time so that Mr. Biden can further elaborate his thoughts for the American people."
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (b3x5S)
In all serious, if/when Goofy Joey does sundown, they have prearranged a deal that she will call time even if he still has time on the clock.
Trump: "Ms Welker, I'd like to cede my time so that Mr. Biden can further elaborate his thoughts for the American people."
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (b3x5S)
In all serious, if/when Goofy Joey does sundown, they have prearranged a deal that she will call time even if he still has time on the clock.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:43 AM (s2VJv)
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Ha ha. Off funny stupid sock from yesterday.
Posted by: Justsayin' at October 22, 2020 11:43 AM (Fs5vw)
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Person Who Died During AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Was Given the Placebo
We have three friends who are participating here in the Moderna trials. Two women friends who believe they got the real deal (sore arms for a day or two) and one elderly friend who is farther along in the testing, and told my husband he has COVID antibodies now.
My husband is STILL waiting to participate. The doctor heading up the trials here is a friend.
We have three friends who are participating here in the Moderna trials. Two women friends who believe they got the real deal (sore arms for a day or two) and one elderly friend who is farther along in the testing, and told my husband he has COVID antibodies now.
My husband is STILL waiting to participate. The doctor heading up the trials here is a friend.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:43 AM (ptqGC)
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that the assertions don't amount to much.
Pee dossier
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you can grab 'em by the pussy
possible collusion
Ukrainian phone call
Fer F' sake they aren't even trying anymore
Pee dossier
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don't want to waste the listeners' and readers' time on stories that are just pure distractions
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you can grab 'em by the pussy
possible collusion
Ukrainian phone call
Fer F' sake they aren't even trying anymore
Posted by: the lamest excuse ever at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (1M9bb)
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269 "The irony is if Roberts would have been on the SCOTUS in 2000, there would be no CJ Roberts"
IIRC Scotus ruled 7-2 in Bush's favor. Benedict Roberts would have made no difference.
GUESS who the 2 were who wouldn't toe the line for a unanimous decision in such a fraught decision.
GUESS which two chose party over country.
GUESS.
IIRC Scotus ruled 7-2 in Bush's favor. Benedict Roberts would have made no difference.
GUESS who the 2 were who wouldn't toe the line for a unanimous decision in such a fraught decision.
GUESS which two chose party over country.
GUESS.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (UCCfH)
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IIRC Scotus ruled 7-2 in Bush's favor. Benedict Roberts would have made no difference.
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Actually, in typical judicial horseshittery, they overturned the Florida Supreme Court ruling 7-2, but voted 5-4 to end the recount altogether. The other fuck as stupid justices thought it would have been perfectly fine to continue doing either a Florida statewide or NATIONAL recount.
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Actually, in typical judicial horseshittery, they overturned the Florida Supreme Court ruling 7-2, but voted 5-4 to end the recount altogether. The other fuck as stupid justices thought it would have been perfectly fine to continue doing either a Florida statewide or NATIONAL recount.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (8YFRI)
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298 I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
At some point this month I wanted to watch either Vampyre or Nosferatu and write a blog post for Hallowe'en, just as I did last year with Haxan.
Been too depressed to do it, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (2JVJo)
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I bought all three of those this month.
Nosferatu already came, and Haxan and Vampyr are on order from Criterion's flash sale. Should be here next week. I also got Carnival of Souls.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
At some point this month I wanted to watch either Vampyre or Nosferatu and write a blog post for Hallowe'en, just as I did last year with Haxan.
Been too depressed to do it, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (2JVJo)
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I bought all three of those this month.
Nosferatu already came, and Haxan and Vampyr are on order from Criterion's flash sale. Should be here next week. I also got Carnival of Souls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (NWM+b)
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Human urine historical factoid: the Iberians used it to brush their teeth (how? Not sure).
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020
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Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020
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Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (wQDH5)
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297 True that. And I'll note that a "tubal" is one quantum of "toobin" before the video stream is viewed and collapses from repulsive nondeterministic particles to a repulsive observable wave.
--- phoney baloney physics professor, Dr. Banana
Quantum physics. Reason # 3.6369*10^-4 m^2.s^-1 to come to AoSHQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (DMUuz)
You know who else's dick is a wave-form?
--- phoney baloney physics professor, Dr. Banana
Quantum physics. Reason # 3.6369*10^-4 m^2.s^-1 to come to AoSHQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (DMUuz)
You know who else's dick is a wave-form?
Posted by: (Bill Clinton. The answer is Bill Clinton.) at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (/EuRN)
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Ric Grinnell tried to secretly remove Maduro? F'ing Bloomberg is reporting like thats a bad thing. Grinnell 2024!
Posted by: Mishdog at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (miJF6)
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298 I will either watch Romancing the Stone or Back to the Future Part II.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
At some point this month I wanted to watch either Vampyre or Nosferatu and write a blog post for Hallowe'en, just as I did last year with Haxan.
Been too depressed to do it, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (2JVJo)
Watch " 30 Days of Night" on Amazon Prime. It's free now. Very uplifting movie.
Not sure which.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:28 AM (NWM+b)
At some point this month I wanted to watch either Vampyre or Nosferatu and write a blog post for Hallowe'en, just as I did last year with Haxan.
Been too depressed to do it, though.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (2JVJo)
Watch " 30 Days of Night" on Amazon Prime. It's free now. Very uplifting movie.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (bCLt0)
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Two points better than Obama during the same period in 2012. Obama if I remember right was underwater until early November when suddenly his Rasmussen approval ratings spiked to 50+ and stayed there until after the election.
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I remember Obama spent most of October at like 47%, which I found hilarious because of Romney's "47% of America don't pay taxes so they'll always vote for Obama."
But then Sandy happened, Christie gave Obama a wendy on the tarmac, and Romney rolled over like a bitch.
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Sorry I said Trump's 52% was highest on record. That's incorrect; 53% is his highest.
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I remember Obama spent most of October at like 47%, which I found hilarious because of Romney's "47% of America don't pay taxes so they'll always vote for Obama."
But then Sandy happened, Christie gave Obama a wendy on the tarmac, and Romney rolled over like a bitch.
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Sorry I said Trump's 52% was highest on record. That's incorrect; 53% is his highest.
Posted by: Shenanigans at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (ZR7kf)
314
recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
Always getting on your dairy-air about trivial things....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020
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Horn-ing in on the discussion again, I see. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM
ENOUGH!
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (FlnFg)
Always getting on your dairy-air about trivial things....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020
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Horn-ing in on the discussion again, I see. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM
ENOUGH!
Posted by: MooovOn.Org at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (DMUuz)
315
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Also a precursor of gunpowder, but the Romans didn't know that.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Also a precursor of gunpowder, but the Romans didn't know that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (dLkYS)
316
You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Him signing books at Costco next to the "Try our bacon-wrapped water chestnuts!" staffer is just over his horizon and coming on strong. He'll be jonesing for a Kool throughout it.
You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Him signing books at Costco next to the "Try our bacon-wrapped water chestnuts!" staffer is just over his horizon and coming on strong. He'll be jonesing for a Kool throughout it.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (pNxlR)
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Human urine historical factoid: the Iberians used it to brush their teeth (how? Not sure).
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020
It's only effective if the penis is in the mouth expelling the urine as needed...
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020
It's only effective if the penis is in the mouth expelling the urine as needed...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (s2VJv)
318
57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead.
But yeah Texas is a tossup.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (8YFRI)
Since Texas does not have party registration, how is that 10 point lead guesstimated?
But yeah Texas is a tossup.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM (8YFRI)
Since Texas does not have party registration, how is that 10 point lead guesstimated?
Posted by: Count de Monet at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (DLzZd)
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Nosferatu already came, and Haxan and Vampyr are on order from Criterion's flash sale. Should be here next week. I also got Carnival of Souls.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020
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Jacques Tourneur's Curse of the Demon, based on an M.R. James story!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020
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Jacques Tourneur's Curse of the Demon, based on an M.R. James story!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (wQDH5)
320
Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
So that's what I've been doing all this time. Honey, my pants are now clean!
So that's what I've been doing all this time. Honey, my pants are now clean!
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (3fR4G)
321
I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate
You folks are certainly giving us something to ruminant about!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (pNxlR)
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I think it behooves us to move on to a different subject.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
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Nah, too Bossy.
Yeah, that cud be a problem.
Posted by: Cheerful Reprobate
You folks are certainly giving us something to ruminant about!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (pNxlR)
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I think it behooves us to move on to a different subject.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: some guy out west at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (XpDOS)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (m45I2)
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289 SPONGE!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (Txle7)
Nailed it.
Safe travels, my brother, you gonna have a good time
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (Txle7)
Nailed it.
Safe travels, my brother, you gonna have a good time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (ifmtJ)
325
I took Queer Yodeling as a phys-ed elective in college.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
I saw Queer Yodeling open up for Peter Gabriel, back in 1987 at the Richfield Coliseum.
That place got torn down, by the way. The Queer Yodeling helped, I'm sure.
Posted by: Warai-otoko
I saw Queer Yodeling open up for Peter Gabriel, back in 1987 at the Richfield Coliseum.
That place got torn down, by the way. The Queer Yodeling helped, I'm sure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (vcOmj)
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"Hunter Explains Why Harris was chose for VP!
Appears Kamala is in Hunters emails as key contact for Chinese biz ventures'..."
I suggest a parody show called "Hunter Explains it All". The star character is (fake) Hunter, casually drinking whiskey (maybe snorting on occasion), and laying out the groundwork of all the schemes.
Maybe FakeHunter has some half naked women around (no children, that is TOO real) ... and he lays out a new fraud every episode. Burisma, various China deals, how the BigMan got paid. Every episode keys directly off the smoking gun evidence, backed up by key players ... maybe even role play the actual deals with foreign thugs. Maybe add in some of the blackmail threats from China ... but always tied to Pop and the whole Biden Crime Family.
Maybe The Bee could pull it off.
Appears Kamala is in Hunters emails as key contact for Chinese biz ventures'..."
I suggest a parody show called "Hunter Explains it All". The star character is (fake) Hunter, casually drinking whiskey (maybe snorting on occasion), and laying out the groundwork of all the schemes.
Maybe FakeHunter has some half naked women around (no children, that is TOO real) ... and he lays out a new fraud every episode. Burisma, various China deals, how the BigMan got paid. Every episode keys directly off the smoking gun evidence, backed up by key players ... maybe even role play the actual deals with foreign thugs. Maybe add in some of the blackmail threats from China ... but always tied to Pop and the whole Biden Crime Family.
Maybe The Bee could pull it off.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (Cus5s)
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You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)
That gives me the warm fuzzies. I remember a few short years ago he was considered a god.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)
That gives me the warm fuzzies. I remember a few short years ago he was considered a god.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (XdJb+)
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So Obama held a campaign event and few showed up.
He should have brought his Styrofoam columns.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (XdJb+)
You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)
The Kalorama Kompound must have had a nice plume of Kools smoke last night. The Farsi Ferret's soothing words can only go so far.
He should have brought his Styrofoam columns.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (XdJb+)
You just have to know that inside he was rage-stroking and sobbing. Heh.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)
The Kalorama Kompound must have had a nice plume of Kools smoke last night. The Farsi Ferret's soothing words can only go so far.
Posted by: Captain Hate at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (y7DUB)
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315 Urine was a valuable commodity, used for dry wet cleaning of clothing, among other things.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Also a precursor of gunpowder, but the Romans didn't know that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (dLkYS)
"Wait a second, I remember something..."
- - Captain Kirk fleeing the Gorn
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:34 AM (DMUuz)
Also a precursor of gunpowder, but the Romans didn't know that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (dLkYS)
"Wait a second, I remember something..."
- - Captain Kirk fleeing the Gorn
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (s2VJv)
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112 Anytime you hear anyone start a sentence with "I feel like..." you know you are listening to a dumb ass.
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
I feel minty fresh "down there."
That is all.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 11:20 AM (buTO7)
I feel minty fresh "down there."
Posted by: Michael the Texan at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (9IdCK)
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57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead."
The numbers I find say that 32% of the Texas votes have been cast so far, and there's no data to say what the breakdown by party is. Probably because Texas doesn't keep track of party registration, because it has open primaries.
The numbers I find say that 32% of the Texas votes have been cast so far, and there's no data to say what the breakdown by party is. Probably because Texas doesn't keep track of party registration, because it has open primaries.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (Kpl3J)
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307 IIRC Scotus ruled 7-2 in Bush's favor. Benedict Roberts would have made no difference.
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Actually, in typical judicial horseshittery, they overturned the Florida Supreme Court ruling 7-2, but voted 5-4 to end the recount altogether. The other fuck as stupid justices thought it would have been perfectly fine to continue doing either a Florida statewide or NATIONAL recount.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (8YFRI)
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Ahh OK. Thanks.
Then yeah I guess Benedict Roberts would have giben us a President Gore after all.
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Actually, in typical judicial horseshittery, they overturned the Florida Supreme Court ruling 7-2, but voted 5-4 to end the recount altogether. The other fuck as stupid justices thought it would have been perfectly fine to continue doing either a Florida statewide or NATIONAL recount.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:44 AM (8YFRI)
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Ahh OK. Thanks.
Then yeah I guess Benedict Roberts would have giben us a President Gore after all.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (22mNy)
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>>the Iberians used it to brush their teeth (how? Not sure). Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020
Ammonia fuming from horse urine used to be a means of staining white oak furniture.
Ammonia fuming from horse urine used to be a means of staining white oak furniture.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (xK9An)
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defund 2021
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (sfhL4)
Public broadcasting was a noble experiment back when there were 5 VHF TV stations and only local AM radio broadcasts.
But we're in the 21st century. "Educational" programming is everywhere, and has been since the advent of cable television. Today, that tax money could be better spent anywhere but on public television and npr. If they are a value proposition, then they'll have no problem surviving and even flourishing in the public sector.
Sink or swim baby. Start a go-fund me or do more begathons if you don't get enough advertising dollars. I'd rather see my tax dollars go to jogging shrimp.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (sfhL4)
Public broadcasting was a noble experiment back when there were 5 VHF TV stations and only local AM radio broadcasts.
But we're in the 21st century. "Educational" programming is everywhere, and has been since the advent of cable television. Today, that tax money could be better spent anywhere but on public television and npr. If they are a value proposition, then they'll have no problem surviving and even flourishing in the public sector.
Sink or swim baby. Start a go-fund me or do more begathons if you don't get enough advertising dollars. I'd rather see my tax dollars go to jogging shrimp.
Posted by: clutch cargo at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (8B6Ng)
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Not that it will happen, due to the Democrat Dumbass Zombie Effect, but -
I'd love for one or two of the Dim Senate Big Shots from the
states/cities which the Democrat leadership allowed to be burnt down to
be overwhelmingly voted out of office.
Just to show this lame ass party that they need to reform, move to
the middle, and are about their fellow citizens instead of trying to
intimidate them with fear and violence.
*sigh*
But, it's just a dream....a beautiful, beautiful dream.
Posted by: naturalfake
And the name of that beautiful dream is Kim Klacik in her dreamscape Baltimore.
Not that it will happen, due to the Democrat Dumbass Zombie Effect, but -
I'd love for one or two of the Dim Senate Big Shots from the
states/cities which the Democrat leadership allowed to be burnt down to
be overwhelmingly voted out of office.
Just to show this lame ass party that they need to reform, move to
the middle, and are about their fellow citizens instead of trying to
intimidate them with fear and violence.
*sigh*
But, it's just a dream....a beautiful, beautiful dream.
Posted by: naturalfake
And the name of that beautiful dream is Kim Klacik in her dreamscape Baltimore.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn DA 1977 at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (LBiyC)
336
Dang, I wish we could have made it to the TXMoMe this year. Had such a great time last year.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:47 AM (ptqGC)
337
Casino or 7-11?
Posted by: I'm Joe Biden and I approve this mess at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (Izzlo)
Wagon or widow?
Posted by: I'm Joe Biden and I approve this mess at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (Izzlo)
Wagon or widow?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 11:47 AM (dLkYS)
338
Cow cuddling is okay, but only up until the point you get to the udder side.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 11:47 AM (m45I2)
339
>>Chris Wallace warns Trump not to mention the Biden scandal or else Biden will bring up Trump's secret Chinese bank account!
Is Wallace still pretending to be a journalist?
Because that doesn't sound like reporting. . .
Is Wallace still pretending to be a journalist?
Because that doesn't sound like reporting. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at October 22, 2020 11:47 AM (bDqIh)
340
Human urine historical factoid: the Iberians used it to brush their teeth (how? Not sure).
Posted by: Floridachick
Maybe they used toothbrushes with really long handles to keep from getting it on their hands.
Posted by: Floridachick
Maybe they used toothbrushes with really long handles to keep from getting it on their hands.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2020 11:47 AM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (G0vdT)
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I looked a bit at the Morning Consult poll,
wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas.
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57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead.
But yeah Texas is a tossup.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM
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Yet nate silver still has Texas as going for biden. The rcp guys have it listed as a toss up.
wondering why they were showing such high results for Biden in Texas.
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57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead.
But yeah Texas is a tossup.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:38 AM
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Yet nate silver still has Texas as going for biden. The rcp guys have it listed as a toss up.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
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Headline at Breitbart:
Report: Kamala Harris Listed as 'Key Contact' for Biden Family Business Venture in China[/b[
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (WqPYg)
MFM: Russian disinformation!!!!!
Report: Kamala Harris Listed as 'Key Contact' for Biden Family Business Venture in China[/b[
Posted by: ShainS at October 22, 2020 11:37 AM (WqPYg)
MFM: Russian disinformation!!!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (Qi5O5)
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The numbers I find say that 32% of the Texas votes have been cast so far, and there's no data to say what the breakdown by party is. Probably because Texas doesn't keep track of party registration, because it has open primaries.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (Kpl3J)
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I've wondered about that.
SC has open primaries, and I voted in the Democratic primary this year (Tom Steyer!).
I wonder if I show up as a potential Democratic voter because of that, and that's why I've been getting Democratic mailers.
The numbers I find say that 32% of the Texas votes have been cast so far, and there's no data to say what the breakdown by party is. Probably because Texas doesn't keep track of party registration, because it has open primaries.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:46 AM (Kpl3J)
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I've wondered about that.
SC has open primaries, and I voted in the Democratic primary this year (Tom Steyer!).
I wonder if I show up as a potential Democratic voter because of that, and that's why I've been getting Democratic mailers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (NWM+b)
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The media made Trump denounce the fake White Supremacy lie. Trump isn't involved at all but they won't relent on his publicly denouncing it.
No push to make Biden denounce Hunter's business dealings off the family name with Ukraine and China, if Joe isn't involved as he claims.
Weird that.
No push to make Biden denounce Hunter's business dealings off the family name with Ukraine and China, if Joe isn't involved as he claims.
Weird that.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (3aLWR)
346
Democracies were attempted in Greece and Rome with disastrous results.
There is historical evidence that at least in one town in the Roman
empire there was even an election for who got to collect piss.
Finally there's a gubmint position where doing a piss-pour job is a good thing.
There is historical evidence that at least in one town in the Roman
empire there was even an election for who got to collect piss.
Finally there's a gubmint position where doing a piss-pour job is a good thing.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Joe Biden killed my career at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: some guy out west at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (XpDOS)
348
341 Rasmussen Poll:
NC, 800 LV's
Biden 48, Trump 49, Trump +1
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (G0vdT)
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No, the polls from a month ago that had Biden up by 9 are far more believable.
NC, 800 LV's
Biden 48, Trump 49, Trump +1
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (G0vdT)
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No, the polls from a month ago that had Biden up by 9 are far more believable.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (NWM+b)
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (/EuRN)
350
My wife thinks Trump is annoying as hell, and she would crawl across broken glass to vote for him. This phenomenon is everywhere, IMO, and translates into a win for Trump.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (bCLt0)
351
You cow people are udderly destroying this thread ... moove on please.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (Cus5s)
352
Since Texas does not have party registration, how is that 10 point lead guesstimated?
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I go to TargetSmart which uses "modeling" where registration isn't officially reported:
https://targetearly.targetsmart.com
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I go to TargetSmart which uses "modeling" where registration isn't officially reported:
https://targetearly.targetsmart.com
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (8YFRI)
353
296 I recommend cow cuddling.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
Actual bovines or fatties?
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 22, 2020 11:31 AM (Vxu+H)
Actual bovines or fatties?
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (Txle7)
354
According to informed commentary on The ONT, Insom's gender reveal party 3 months from now is going to be LIT!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (DMUuz)
355
351 You cow people are udderly destroying this thread ... moove on please.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (Cus5s)
Yeah, i'm about to hoof it.
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (Cus5s)
Yeah, i'm about to hoof it.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (/EuRN)
356
Yet nate silver still has Texas as going for biden. The rcp guys have it listed as a toss up.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Silver even trying? He's on some top shelf stuff
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Silver even trying? He's on some top shelf stuff
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (/6GbT)
357
Was it above board and legal? I assume so. And he
was a private citizen. And I also assume all of this was disclosed like
four years ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (s2VJv)
It's the account he paid Chinese taxes out of, something like $180k. The "scoop" came from his tax records illegally leaked to the NYTimes.
was a private citizen. And I also assume all of this was disclosed like
four years ago.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (s2VJv)
It's the account he paid Chinese taxes out of, something like $180k. The "scoop" came from his tax records illegally leaked to the NYTimes.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (CQ3Qb)
358
I recommend cow cuddling.
We have milked this long enough
Posted by: some guy out west at October 22, 2020
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As usual, I come in on the tail end of the discussion. . . .
We have milked this long enough
Posted by: some guy out west at October 22, 2020
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As usual, I come in on the tail end of the discussion. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (wQDH5)
359
Trumps develop and sell real estate, what did Bidens sell?
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (ONvIw)
360
Human urine historical factoid: the Iberians used it to brush their teeth
Probably wouldn't work too well for diabetics.
Probably wouldn't work too well for diabetics.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (ykYG2)
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Quantum physics. Reason # 3.6369*10^-4 m^2.s^-1 to come to AoSHQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (DMUuz)
"Professor Duncanthrax! Professor Duncanthrax! Shouldn't that last 9 really be 8?"
** holds up calculator for Duncanthrax to see **
-- yet another pre-med whose name you'd best record just in case, by some miracle, they actually become a M.D. and you find yourself, by chance, in their emergency room
Quantum physics. Reason # 3.6369*10^-4 m^2.s^-1 to come to AoSHQ.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (DMUuz)
"Professor Duncanthrax! Professor Duncanthrax! Shouldn't that last 9 really be 8?"
** holds up calculator for Duncanthrax to see **
-- yet another pre-med whose name you'd best record just in case, by some miracle, they actually become a M.D. and you find yourself, by chance, in their emergency room
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (pNxlR)
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356 Yet nate silver still has Texas as going for biden. The rcp guys have it listed as a toss up.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Silver even trying? He's on some top shelf stuff
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (/6GbT)
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"I was still right!"
-Silver in about 3 weeks
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Silver even trying? He's on some top shelf stuff
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (/6GbT)
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"I was still right!"
-Silver in about 3 weeks
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (NWM+b)
363
Once you see Frankie Duntz emails with Hunter, you can't take any of these poll puds seriously any more.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (3aLWR)
364
So I looked up the Trump Chinese Bank Account story - oh my, what a scandal.
Several years ago, Trump international was pursuing some business inside China. (like every other International Company) They did do some business in China. In order to do that business, they had a bank account in China.
that's it, that's the end of the story. Wow. bombshell!
Several years ago, Trump international was pursuing some business inside China. (like every other International Company) They did do some business in China. In order to do that business, they had a bank account in China.
that's it, that's the end of the story. Wow. bombshell!
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (Kpl3J)
365
Most countries require you to open up a bank account to do business there whether is a written rule or unwritten rule kinda like most towns across America want you to open a bank account there to do business in that town. If you don't, you probably won't be successful there.
At least that's how it used to be in America.
At least that's how it used to be in America.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (W8o7h)
366
LarrySchweikart
Palm Beach (county) down to 3.9% D lead.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
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I've finally returned to my old Twitter account to look in on stuff, and he's there all the time making me feel quite positive.
He also made me feel positive in 2018, so we'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (NWM+b)
Those are in person only numbers. Not the huge VBM.
Schweikart is a cheerleader.
Palm Beach (county) down to 3.9% D lead.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 11:39 AM (ppMjB)
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I've finally returned to my old Twitter account to look in on stuff, and he's there all the time making me feel quite positive.
He also made me feel positive in 2018, so we'll see.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:40 AM (NWM+b)
Those are in person only numbers. Not the huge VBM.
Schweikart is a cheerleader.
Posted by: Ha at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (+jNil)
367
324 289 SPONGE!!!!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (Txle7)
Nailed it.
Safe travels, my brother, you gonna have a good time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (ifmtJ)
Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (Txle7)
Nailed it.
Safe travels, my brother, you gonna have a good time
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (ifmtJ)
Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Seeing 2016 From My House at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (8YFRI)
369
Biden is worth about $250M. How did he amass his wealth on a Senator's salary?
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (XdJb+)
370
As usual, I come in on the tail end of the discussion. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (wQDH5)
That's udderly preposterous!
As usual, I come in on the tail end of the discussion. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (wQDH5)
That's udderly preposterous!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (pNxlR)
371
In the entire trove of Hunter's emails, was there a single one that had anything to do with the purported business of his companies, like gas exploration?
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Lt1JN)
372
356 Yet nate silver still has Texas as going for biden. The rcp guys have it listed as a toss up.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Silver even trying? He's on some top shelf stuff
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (/6GbT)
Nate: Texas will NOT " go" for Biden. Please pay attention to the country outside of the East Coast.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Silver even trying? He's on some top shelf stuff
Posted by: A dude in MI at October 22, 2020 11:49 AM (/6GbT)
Nate: Texas will NOT " go" for Biden. Please pay attention to the country outside of the East Coast.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (bCLt0)
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369 Biden is worth about $250M. How did he amass his wealth on a Senator's salary?
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (XdJb+)
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Civil service is a sacrifice, prole.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (XdJb+)
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Civil service is a sacrifice, prole.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (NWM+b)
374
I saw Queer Yodeling open up for Peter Gabriel, back in 1987 at the Richfield Coliseum.
That place got torn down, by the way. The Queer Yodeling helped, I'm sure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (vcOmj)
I'm pretty sure I saw that show, but I thought the tour stop at Richfield was in '86. In '87 I got to see Gabriel in Offenbach, West Germany.
Queer Yodeling didn't join him for that leg of the tour.
That place got torn down, by the way. The Queer Yodeling helped, I'm sure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM (vcOmj)
I'm pretty sure I saw that show, but I thought the tour stop at Richfield was in '86. In '87 I got to see Gabriel in Offenbach, West Germany.
Queer Yodeling didn't join him for that leg of the tour.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (b3x5S)
375
Wait Chuck Schumer and Kamala Harris might be implicated on Hunter's laptop?
Could a product of China, the laptop, bring down the house of cards built by China?
Could a product of China, the laptop, bring down the house of cards built by China?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (5tkqb)
376
Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
You'll have a great time. Give Ben Had a yuge hug for me.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
You'll have a great time. Give Ben Had a yuge hug for me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)
377
Rasmussen Poll:
NC, 800 LV's
Biden 48, Trump 49, Trump +1
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM
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Polls with samples of less than 1,000 LV's are doubtful. Too small of a sample except in very low population states like Alaska and Wyoming.
NC, 800 LV's
Biden 48, Trump 49, Trump +1
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM
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Polls with samples of less than 1,000 LV's are doubtful. Too small of a sample except in very low population states like Alaska and Wyoming.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (JUOKG)
378
Most countries require you to open up a bank account to do business there whether is a written rule or unwritten rule kinda like most towns across America want you to open a bank account there to do business in that town. If you don't, you probably won't be successful there.
At least that's how it used to be in America.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020
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Billionaire: "I have an account in Switzerland."
Local businesses: "Right this way, sir!"
At least that's how it used to be in America.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020
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Billionaire: "I have an account in Switzerland."
Local businesses: "Right this way, sir!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (wQDH5)
379
Name some of Queer Yodeling's greatest hits.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (XdJb+)
380
>> Ammonia fuming from horse urine used to be a means of staining white oak furniture.
This may be what Nate Silver is huffing.
This may be what Nate Silver is huffing.
Posted by: some guy out west at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (XpDOS)
381
Biden is worth about $250M. How did he amass his wealth on a Senator's salary?
Posted by: ALH at October
And 52% approval.
Ras is garbage.
Posted by: ALH at October
And 52% approval.
Ras is garbage.
Posted by: Ha at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (+jNil)
382
376 Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
You'll have a great time. Give Ben Had a yuge hug for me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)
OK, that's one hug by proxy for Ben Had...
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
You'll have a great time. Give Ben Had a yuge hug for me.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (ptqGC)
OK, that's one hug by proxy for Ben Had...
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (Txle7)
383
As I've frequently stated, we live in the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people, governed by the most unique political system ever devised.
It's been the faithful adherence to that system which has resulted in the exceptional county and extraordinary people parts.
It must NEVER be allowed to vanish under any circumstance.
As I've frequently stated, we live in the most exceptional country on the planet, populated by an extraordinary people, governed by the most unique political system ever devised.
It's been the faithful adherence to that system which has resulted in the exceptional county and extraordinary people parts.
It must NEVER be allowed to vanish under any circumstance.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (KATBx)
384
Polls with samples of less than 1,000 LV's are doubtful. Too small of a sample except in very low population states like Alaska and Wyoming.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (JUOKG)
Do AK and WY even *have* 1000 registered voters?
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (JUOKG)
Do AK and WY even *have* 1000 registered voters?
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (/EuRN)
385
Break on through to the udder side
Posted by: Melena Velba at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (DLzZd)
Posted by: McCool at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (XDHLd)
387
Yet nate silver still has Texas as going for biden. The rcp guys have it listed as a toss up.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Well I'll give him this - if Biden wins Texas, it's definitely over nationally. And if Biden wins Texas, then everything I know and have observed about Politics here is Wrong.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
Well I'll give him this - if Biden wins Texas, it's definitely over nationally. And if Biden wins Texas, then everything I know and have observed about Politics here is Wrong.
Posted by: Tom Servo at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)
388
I think you are going to want to remember this. Epstein had claimed he was a "financial bounty hunter" and one of his clients was Adnan Khashoggi, the Saudi arms dealer, uncle of Jamal Khashoggi and one of he founders of The Safari Club.
Epstein was connected to CIA corruption as well as foreign corruption for a long, long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (ZLI7S)
I love her answer about the initials "GM".
"How do you know that is me?"
She is toying with them all.
Epstein was connected to CIA corruption as well as foreign corruption for a long, long time.
Posted by: JackStraw at October 22, 2020 11:42 AM (ZLI7S)
I love her answer about the initials "GM".
"How do you know that is me?"
She is toying with them all.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (sfhL4)
389
57% of Texas voted already (assuming it's similar to 2016 turnout), and GOP ballot returns have a 10 point lead."
The numbers I find say that 32% of the Texas votes have been cast so far, and there's no data to say what the breakdown by party is. Probably because Texas doesn't keep track of party registration, because it has open primaries.
I think it's hard to tell what's going on in Texas. We don't know whether the surge in early voting is additional voting or the same people who were going to vote all along doing so earlier for some reason (e.g., trying to avoid election day crowds due fear of Covid justified or not). I have not seen anything suggesting what the results of early voting in Texas is. If anyone has, do you have a link?
The numbers I find say that 32% of the Texas votes have been cast so far, and there's no data to say what the breakdown by party is. Probably because Texas doesn't keep track of party registration, because it has open primaries.
I think it's hard to tell what's going on in Texas. We don't know whether the surge in early voting is additional voting or the same people who were going to vote all along doing so earlier for some reason (e.g., trying to avoid election day crowds due fear of Covid justified or not). I have not seen anything suggesting what the results of early voting in Texas is. If anyone has, do you have a link?
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (H5knJ)
390
379 Name some of Queer Yodeling's greatest hits.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (XdJb+)
Your Horn Matters on the Matterhorn
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:52 AM (XdJb+)
Your Horn Matters on the Matterhorn
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (s2VJv)
391
Person Who Died During AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Was Given the Placebo>>>
I'm enjoying a fun read of John Ringo's Under a Graveyard Sky in which, the dangers of a rapidly produced vaccine are revealed. Reinforces my decision to have nothing to do with one, if and when available. Especially if Gates and the WHO are involved.
I'm enjoying a fun read of John Ringo's Under a Graveyard Sky in which, the dangers of a rapidly produced vaccine are revealed. Reinforces my decision to have nothing to do with one, if and when available. Especially if Gates and the WHO are involved.
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (LGXGf)
392
Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
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I'm sorry I can't make it this year. I was looking forward to shaking your hand, looking deep into your eyes, and making some stupid remark.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
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I'm sorry I can't make it this year. I was looking forward to shaking your hand, looking deep into your eyes, and making some stupid remark.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
393
As usual, I come in on the tail end of the discussion. . . .
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (wQDH5)
That's udderly preposterous!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020
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Time to hock some jewelry?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (wQDH5)
That's udderly preposterous!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020
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Time to hock some jewelry?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (wQDH5)
394
387 Well I'll give him this - if Biden wins Texas, it's definitely over nationally. And if Biden wins Texas, then everything I know and have observed about Politics here is Wrong.
No, it only means the fraud was truly MASSIVE
No, it only means the fraud was truly MASSIVE
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (UCCfH)
395
Axios : Schools arent COVID hotspots...
https://tinyurl.com/yypy4g7z
Preparing to open up when Biden wins ?
or even they cant deny science ?
https://tinyurl.com/yypy4g7z
Preparing to open up when Biden wins ?
or even they cant deny science ?
Posted by: McCool at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (XDHLd)
396
I'm sorry I can't make it this year. I was looking forward to shaking your hand, looking deep into your eyes, and making some stupid remark.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
That is bitterly disappointing indeed. Maybe next time!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
That is bitterly disappointing indeed. Maybe next time!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (Txle7)
397
I'm pretty sure I saw that show, but I thought the tour stop at Richfield was in '86. In '87 I got to see Gabriel in Offenbach, West Germany.
Queer Yodeling didn't join him for that leg of the tour.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard
I may have been making that up.
But I did remember seeing Peter Gabriel at Richfield. 1986, 1987, one of those years. Also saw him later at Blossom Music Center, out in Cuyahoga Falls.
Queer Yodeling didn't join him for that leg of the tour.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard
I may have been making that up.
But I did remember seeing Peter Gabriel at Richfield. 1986, 1987, one of those years. Also saw him later at Blossom Music Center, out in Cuyahoga Falls.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (vcOmj)
398
Polling is the greatest voter suppression of all
Fox can't got more than 2 minutes without mentioning the polls
resistance is futile
Fox can't got more than 2 minutes without mentioning the polls
resistance is futile
Posted by: REDACTED at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (R3uW8)
399
Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
Be sure & wear your mask!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
Be sure & wear your mask!
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (XdJb+)
400
"Actually, in typical judicial horseshittery, they overturned the Florida Supreme Court ruling 7-2"
the thing I recall was even the CNN biased "experts" kept saying along the way ... "even if this gets to the Florida Supreme Court, there is no way ...". But it was like that with every impossible step, because the Cheat was ON.
I mean, every step was just lies and cheats that ignored all rules and law, and finally SCOTUS stopped the fraud, so the MSM Narrative became "SCOTUS overturned the people's choice".
the thing I recall was even the CNN biased "experts" kept saying along the way ... "even if this gets to the Florida Supreme Court, there is no way ...". But it was like that with every impossible step, because the Cheat was ON.
I mean, every step was just lies and cheats that ignored all rules and law, and finally SCOTUS stopped the fraud, so the MSM Narrative became "SCOTUS overturned the people's choice".
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (dTmdP)
402
Well said CB.
Posted by: Toobin the Tugger at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (qKErG)
403
In the entire trove of Hunter's emails, was there a single one that had anything to do with the purported business of his companies, like gas exploration?
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Lt1JN)
Well, in one he did complain that the excessive amount of hot peppers used in Chinese cooking did give him gas ...
In the entire trove of Hunter's emails, was there a single one that had anything to do with the purported business of his companies, like gas exploration?
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Lt1JN)
Well, in one he did complain that the excessive amount of hot peppers used in Chinese cooking did give him gas ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (pNxlR)
404
Let us not get the twitchy vapors over what some ponce named Silver was paid to say.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (bCLt0)
405
>>extraordinary people parts.
Posted by: irongrampa at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (KATBx)
(Carefully examines arm, nods at clerk, replaces gently on top of people-part display case).
"That's....well, it's extraordinary."
(Clerk nods appreciatively)
"It gets quite a lot of attention. Perfect gift for the woman who has it all."
Posted by: irongrampa at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (KATBx)
(Carefully examines arm, nods at clerk, replaces gently on top of people-part display case).
"That's....well, it's extraordinary."
(Clerk nods appreciatively)
"It gets quite a lot of attention. Perfect gift for the woman who has it all."
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (xK9An)
406
393
Time to hock some jewelry?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (wQDH5)
Or hock a tchainick.
Time to hock some jewelry?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (wQDH5)
Or hock a tchainick.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (s2VJv)
407
Biden's gonna lose TX by 10
Posted by: REDACTED at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (R3uW8)
408
399 Thanks, man. Plane boards soon. No backing out now!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
Be sure & wear your mask!
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (XdJb+)
They won't let you on the plane without one. So unfortunately this time I have to comply. Doesn't sit well with me.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:51 AM (Txle7)
Be sure & wear your mask!
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (XdJb+)
They won't let you on the plane without one. So unfortunately this time I have to comply. Doesn't sit well with me.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
409
Everyone saying Texas cannot go blue....have you been to Dallas or Houston or San Antonio in the past 5ish years? The cities of TX are as liberal as any cities in CA. There has been a mass migration to TX from the NE and CA over the past 10-20 years and it is finally hitting critical mass. Add in millions of illegals and kids of illegals who are now voting age and tens of thousands of H1B tech workers who have naturalized and you get a purple state. Texas 2020 is not your father's Texas as the old Oldsmobile commercials used to say.
I'm not saying Biden will win TX necessarily. But if he does I won't be surprised.
I'm not saying Biden will win TX necessarily. But if he does I won't be surprised.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (22mNy)
410
Ammonia fuming from horse urine used to be a means of staining white oak furniture.
Things were different back then. "Thank God, the cat finally started pissing on our furniture! Now it's beautiful!"
Things were different back then. "Thank God, the cat finally started pissing on our furniture! Now it's beautiful!"
Posted by: t-bird at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (8eSmR)
411
Fauci authored a paper in 2008
concluding that the majority of Spanish Flu deaths were not from flu
but from UR bacterial infections
like the kind you would get from wearing filthy masks all the time
https://tinyurl.com/yxtao2kj
concluding that the majority of Spanish Flu deaths were not from flu
but from UR bacterial infections
like the kind you would get from wearing filthy masks all the time
https://tinyurl.com/yxtao2kj
Posted by: McCool at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (XDHLd)
412
12- But that is not how Aikman framed his comment. He described it as a waste of jet fuel. And then made a comment seemingly in support of "Harris-Biden" ending the wasteful use of jet fuel in flyovers if they get elected.
So yeah, I don't buy his explanation either. If that is what he meant -- flyover is a waste with no fans in attendance to see it -- he would have said it at the time.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:03 AM
His comments were ambiguous at best- I agree with him that Biden/Harris would put an end to these in light of their lack of patriotism and slavish devotion to the Green New Deal. I don't think he was going to go into a long dissertation of his reasoning when he didn't know his microphone was on. I'm willing to give him a pass since he has identified as a Republican.
So yeah, I don't buy his explanation either. If that is what he meant -- flyover is a waste with no fans in attendance to see it -- he would have said it at the time.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at October 22, 2020 11:03 AM
His comments were ambiguous at best- I agree with him that Biden/Harris would put an end to these in light of their lack of patriotism and slavish devotion to the Green New Deal. I don't think he was going to go into a long dissertation of his reasoning when he didn't know his microphone was on. I'm willing to give him a pass since he has identified as a Republican.
Posted by: Moonbeam at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (qe5CM)
413
Or hock a tchainick.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (s2VJv)
don't make me come back there
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (s2VJv)
don't make me come back there
Posted by: REDACTED at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (R3uW8)
414
Rasmussen Poll:
NC, 800 LV's
Biden 48, Trump 49, Trump +1
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (G0vdT)
******
800 LV for a state as big as NC ?
NC, 800 LV's
Biden 48, Trump 49, Trump +1
Posted by: WisRich at October 22, 2020 11:48 AM (G0vdT)
******
800 LV for a state as big as NC ?
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (pE+Yq)
415
In any case, that poll is wrong, and they could have checked against actual early vote results to show the poll is wrong.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM
Good Gh*d, man, you shouldn't be saying that. It might lead to bad thoughts on other issues.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2020 11:41 AM
Good Gh*d, man, you shouldn't be saying that. It might lead to bad thoughts on other issues.
Posted by: Dr. Fauxi at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (DMUuz)
416
Name some of Queer Yodeling's greatest hits.
********
Well there's always the classic:
"Who'd ol' little Odie Lay?"
********
Well there's always the classic:
"Who'd ol' little Odie Lay?"
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (m45I2)
417
It seems Trump faces a voting dilemma- his voters usually vote late, and he wants them to turn out YUGELY so they should think its close enough that their vote counts, right?
If he's too far up, or too far down, people might tend to stay home.
Our interests are bet served by polls showing close races, not a blowout.
If he's too far up, or too far down, people might tend to stay home.
Our interests are bet served by polls showing close races, not a blowout.
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (Ed8Zd)
418
I do modeling too.
Posted by: Melena Velba at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (DLzZd)
419
re: vaccine
Even when not in a rush, testing a vaccine in clinical trials will kill the test subjects.
Even when not in a rush, testing a vaccine in clinical trials will kill the test subjects.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (5tkqb)
420
>>401 Kamala wasn't chosen by Biden. She was assigned by Xi Jinping. Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:55 AM (dTmdP)
"If political skill fails, she will use mouth to persuade. Number-one penalty play for South China Sea negotiation."
"If political skill fails, she will use mouth to persuade. Number-one penalty play for South China Sea negotiation."
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (xK9An)
421
Well I'll give him this - if Biden wins Texas, it's definitely over nationally. And if Biden wins Texas, then everything I know and have observed about Politics here is Wrong.
I fond it hard to believe Biden is competitive in Texas because (a) Trump carried it in 2016 by almost 800k votes or roughly 10 points; (b) Abbott did better two years ago; (c) Biden or his surrogates would be here day/night if they thought Texas was a possibility.
I fond it hard to believe Biden is competitive in Texas because (a) Trump carried it in 2016 by almost 800k votes or roughly 10 points; (b) Abbott did better two years ago; (c) Biden or his surrogates would be here day/night if they thought Texas was a possibility.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (H5knJ)
422
I saw Queer Yodeling open up for Peter Gabriel, back in 1987 at the Richfield Coliseum.
That place got torn down, by the way. The Queer Yodeling helped, I'm sure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM
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I worked as a security guard at the Richfield coliseum back in the 70s when I got out of the Army.
A $hitload of drugs in that place when they had rock groups come in. We had big barrels filled with weed and pills that we found at the gates. We didn't even make a dent in it.
One New Years eve bruce springstein came in and sold the place out. I spent the entire night hitting the restrooms busting up drug deals and confiscating drugs.
I saw Queer Yodeling open up for Peter Gabriel, back in 1987 at the Richfield Coliseum.
That place got torn down, by the way. The Queer Yodeling helped, I'm sure.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:45 AM
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I worked as a security guard at the Richfield coliseum back in the 70s when I got out of the Army.
A $hitload of drugs in that place when they had rock groups come in. We had big barrels filled with weed and pills that we found at the gates. We didn't even make a dent in it.
One New Years eve bruce springstein came in and sold the place out. I spent the entire night hitting the restrooms busting up drug deals and confiscating drugs.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (JUOKG)
423
They won't let you on the plane without one. So unfortunately this time I have to comply. Doesn't sit well with me.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
I flew to visit my granddaughter for her birthday back in May. The plane wasn't even 1/3 full. The airports were ghost towns.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
I flew to visit my granddaughter for her birthday back in May. The plane wasn't even 1/3 full. The airports were ghost towns.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
424
Person Who Died During AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Was Given the Placebo
Fookin' placebos will get ya, every time!
Sneaky little bastards ...
Person Who Died During AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Was Given the Placebo
Fookin' placebos will get ya, every time!
Sneaky little bastards ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (pNxlR)
425
235 Chris Wallace warns Trump not to mention the Biden scandal or else Biden will bring up Trump's secret Chinese bank account!
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (CQ3Qb)
The secret Chinese bank account that's listed on his tax return?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 22, 2020 11:36 AM (CQ3Qb)
The secret Chinese bank account that's listed on his tax return?
Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (cF8AT)
426
Here comes the Polling discussion. Like the poor, it is always going to be with us, I guess.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (bCLt0)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (RHMFE)
428
Otter and I are good buddies
Posted by: Placebo at October 22, 2020 11:59 AM (m8ScB)
429
Morning!
Posted by: SFGoth at October 22, 2020 11:59 AM (KAi1n)
430
Susan Ferrechio
@susanferrechio
Our @KerryPicket was the only reporter today to ask @speakerpelosi about the growing @JoeBiden laptop/corruption allegations. Pelosi refused to answer: "I'm not answering those questions. We're talking about the coronavirus. I don't have all day for questions."
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The 'Rona. Is there anything it can't do?
@susanferrechio
Our @KerryPicket was the only reporter today to ask @speakerpelosi about the growing @JoeBiden laptop/corruption allegations. Pelosi refused to answer: "I'm not answering those questions. We're talking about the coronavirus. I don't have all day for questions."
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The 'Rona. Is there anything it can't do?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)
431
"Biden is worth about $250M. How did he amass his wealth on a Senator's salary?"
idk, but being able to trade stocks off of inside info really could make them uber rich if they did it right. (and then some are just geniuses at cattle futures, like Hillary)
idk, but being able to trade stocks off of inside info really could make them uber rich if they did it right. (and then some are just geniuses at cattle futures, like Hillary)
Posted by: illiniwek at October 22, 2020 11:59 AM (Cus5s)
432
Trump was held back in Texas 4 years ago because he took the nom from Cruz, and a little bit of understandable resentment ensued. No such condition this time. Expect a bigger win.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 11:59 AM (UCCfH)
433
427 Pulling away from the gate now.
I can't stand this blankety mask.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (RHMFE)
No maskee, no flyee.
I can't stand this blankety mask.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (RHMFE)
No maskee, no flyee.
Posted by: tubal at October 22, 2020 11:59 AM (bCLt0)
434
>>Ammonia fuming from horse urine used to be a means of staining white oak furniture.
IF you want to tie a proper Hendrickson, you are gonna need some Urine Dyed Vixen Fur.
IF you want to tie a proper Hendrickson, you are gonna need some Urine Dyed Vixen Fur.
Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (RsiI7)
435
I flew to visit my granddaughter for her birthday back in May. The plane wasn't even 1/3 full. The airports were ghost towns.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
It's weird. Hardly anyone in the airport. Breezed through security in mere minutes. I'm fine with that, but it's still a very unusual experience. I'm used to the long lines, crowds of people, the buzz of activity in the airport, especially this one. Very strange experience.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
It's weird. Hardly anyone in the airport. Breezed through security in mere minutes. I'm fine with that, but it's still a very unusual experience. I'm used to the long lines, crowds of people, the buzz of activity in the airport, especially this one. Very strange experience.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (Txle7)
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (m45I2)
437
All the love I projected for RBG is now aimed towards Pelosi.
Let's hope the outcome is the same.
Let's hope the outcome is the same.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (3aLWR)
438
Trump's Chinese bank account
Not like ancient Chinese secret of Hunter Biden.
You can bet the Moo Goo Gai Pan on that.
Not like ancient Chinese secret of Hunter Biden.
You can bet the Moo Goo Gai Pan on that.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (5tkqb)
Posted by: Old Dude at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (LGXGf)
440
But I did remember seeing Peter Gabriel at Richfield. 1986, 1987, one of those years. Also saw him later at Blossom Music Center, out in Cuyahoga Falls.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (vcOmj)
Small world. I did see that tour play Richfield. So it looks like at least 2 future Morons were in attendance. The Offenbach show was great because in W Germany they still permitted 'festival seating', so I just muscled my way up real close to the stage.
I also look back fondly at road trips from Columbus to Richfield when I was a teenager. IIRC I saw U2 play there, too, back in the early '80s.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....Intrepid commentor and viewer at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (vcOmj)
Small world. I did see that tour play Richfield. So it looks like at least 2 future Morons were in attendance. The Offenbach show was great because in W Germany they still permitted 'festival seating', so I just muscled my way up real close to the stage.
I also look back fondly at road trips from Columbus to Richfield when I was a teenager. IIRC I saw U2 play there, too, back in the early '80s.
Posted by: Mostly Peaceful Grognard at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (b3x5S)
441
I flew to visit my granddaughter for her birthday back in May. The plane wasn't even 1/3 full. The airports were ghost towns.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
I was flying back from South Korea with a broken arm. Last plane of the night to land in a Chinese airport, I let everyone else off first, finally got my stuff.
No One in the airport - at all. My very first impression of China is that there was no one around...
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
I was flying back from South Korea with a broken arm. Last plane of the night to land in a Chinese airport, I let everyone else off first, finally got my stuff.
No One in the airport - at all. My very first impression of China is that there was no one around...
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 12:00 PM (v2c9/)
442
Once you see Frankie Duntz emails with Hunter, you can't take any of these poll puds seriously any more.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (3aLWR)
yep, so embarrassing to read
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (3aLWR)
yep, so embarrassing to read
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (sfhL4)
443
I'm sorry I can't make it this year. I was looking forward to shaking your hand, looking deep into your eyes, and making some stupid remark.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
That is bitterly disappointing indeed. Maybe next time!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (Txle7)
Me too. I had it all planned, and then because of stupid Covid, the football schedule shifted and now there's a home game on Saturday. I am really disappointed to miss this.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
That is bitterly disappointing indeed. Maybe next time!
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:54 AM (Txle7)
Me too. I had it all planned, and then because of stupid Covid, the football schedule shifted and now there's a home game on Saturday. I am really disappointed to miss this.
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (Ed8Zd)
444
One New Years eve bruce springstein came in and sold the place out. I spent the entire night hitting the restrooms busting up drug deals and confiscating drugs.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (JUOKG)
C'mon man, we were just trying to end the pain! This guy sux!
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (JUOKG)
C'mon man, we were just trying to end the pain! This guy sux!
Posted by: Roadie at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (/6GbT)
445
>>Person Who Died During AstraZeneca Vaccine Trial Was Given the Placebo
Apparently they gave it to him/her a little too hard.
Apparently they gave it to him/her a little too hard.
Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (RsiI7)
446
They won't let you on the plane without one. So unfortunately this time I have to comply. Doesn't sit well with me.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
I have been told, that on the plane, you can lower your mask to eat or drink. So have a glass of water on hand, and take tiny sips from it, constantly.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
I have been told, that on the plane, you can lower your mask to eat or drink. So have a glass of water on hand, and take tiny sips from it, constantly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (dLkYS)
447
People are going to be pissed when it comes out that China has been colonizing us in various Universities with Chinese nationals through the foundations set up by mainly the Democrats like the Bidens. It's really bad. Then the money laundering to help fund BLM and AntiFa.
This is nothing short of a military invasion by the CCP through politicians like Joe Biden.
This is nothing short of a military invasion by the CCP through politicians like Joe Biden.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM (W8o7h)
448
IF you want to tie a proper Hendrickson, you are gonna need some Urine Dyed Vixen Fur.
Posted by: garrett
Are we talking about fur from a "vixen vixen" or a "saucy little vixen"?
If the latter, what'll we do if she refuses to let us shave her pubis?
IF you want to tie a proper Hendrickson, you are gonna need some Urine Dyed Vixen Fur.
Posted by: garrett
Are we talking about fur from a "vixen vixen" or a "saucy little vixen"?
If the latter, what'll we do if she refuses to let us shave her pubis?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM (pNxlR)
449
442 Once you see Frankie Duntz emails with Hunter, you can't take any of these poll puds seriously any more.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (3aLWR)
yep, so embarrassing to read
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (sfhL4)
The funniest thing is that the plumptious little sous-vide of stupidity was getting *berated* by the big-shot world-shaker coke-fiend despite his best efforts!
Posted by: AlaBAMA at October 22, 2020 11:50 AM (3aLWR)
yep, so embarrassing to read
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (sfhL4)
The funniest thing is that the plumptious little sous-vide of stupidity was getting *berated* by the big-shot world-shaker coke-fiend despite his best efforts!
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (/EuRN)
450
>>Are we talking about fur from a "vixen vixen" or a "saucy little vixen"?
The inportant thing is that she is Fox-y.
The inportant thing is that she is Fox-y.
Posted by: garrett at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (RsiI7)
451
Nancy Pelosi thinks she is Queen of the world.
To the barricades mon amis!
She needs an extra close haircut by Monsieur Guillotine!
/sarc?
To the barricades mon amis!
She needs an extra close haircut by Monsieur Guillotine!
/sarc?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (5tkqb)
452
I have been told, that on the plane, you can lower your mask to eat or drink. So have a glass of water on hand, and take tiny sips from it, constantly.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (dLkYS)
Good idea. I'll have to make frequent requests from the beverage cart. Though it's not a very long flight so they may only come through once.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (dLkYS)
Good idea. I'll have to make frequent requests from the beverage cart. Though it's not a very long flight so they may only come through once.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (Txle7)
453
Name some of Queer Yodeling's greatest hits.
********
"Swishing With The Swiss" from the album of the same name.
********
"Swishing With The Swiss" from the album of the same name.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (m45I2)
454
Trump's bank account wasn't the big news last night on CNN or MSNBC.
It was election interference from Iran and Russia and threatening emails sent to Dems.
The poor babies....
Try knowing you can't put up a yard sign or have a sticker on your vehicle because you know you'd be a target.
It was election interference from Iran and Russia and threatening emails sent to Dems.
The poor babies....
Try knowing you can't put up a yard sign or have a sticker on your vehicle because you know you'd be a target.
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (v2c9/)
455
If the latter, what'll we do if she refuses to let us shave her pubis?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM (pNxlR)
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Call me.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM (pNxlR)
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Call me.
Posted by: Bill Cosby at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (WEBkv)
456
451 Nancy Pelosi thinks she is Queen of the world.
To the barricades mon amis!
She needs an extra close haircut by Monsieur Guillotine!
/sarc?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (5tkqb)
Please.
Her head would probably sprout little Boston Dynamics robot legs and scuttle away on its own.
To the barricades mon amis!
She needs an extra close haircut by Monsieur Guillotine!
/sarc?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (5tkqb)
Please.
Her head would probably sprout little Boston Dynamics robot legs and scuttle away on its own.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (/EuRN)
457
Good idea. I'll have to make frequent requests from the beverage cart. Though it's not a very long flight so they may only come through once.
No need for the cart. bottle of water will do. Don't even have to constantly drink, just be 'prepared to drink'.
No need for the cart. bottle of water will do. Don't even have to constantly drink, just be 'prepared to drink'.
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (UCCfH)
458
Well I'll give him this - if Biden wins Texas, it's definitely over nationally. And if Biden wins Texas, then everything I know and have observed about Politics here is Wrong.
I fond it hard to believe Biden is competitive in Texas because (a) Trump carried it in 2016 by almost 800k votes or roughly 10 points; (b) Abbott did better two years ago; (c) Biden or his surrogates would be here day/night if they thought Texas was a possibility.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (H5knJ)
Yep.
Also smaller things like UT Austin is not fully open in person, so lots of students who woudl be harassed to vote and vote dem are elsewhere. Don't know if that changes the outcome but it could be a local factor.
I fond it hard to believe Biden is competitive in Texas because (a) Trump carried it in 2016 by almost 800k votes or roughly 10 points; (b) Abbott did better two years ago; (c) Biden or his surrogates would be here day/night if they thought Texas was a possibility.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM (H5knJ)
Yep.
Also smaller things like UT Austin is not fully open in person, so lots of students who woudl be harassed to vote and vote dem are elsewhere. Don't know if that changes the outcome but it could be a local factor.
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (Ed8Zd)
459
Suddenly I really don;t want to know what fox says...
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (5tkqb)
460
Name some of Queer Yodeling's greatest hits.
*******
♫ ♫
Anal-wise, anal-wise
Every morning you great me.
*******
♫ ♫
Anal-wise, anal-wise
Every morning you great me.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)
461
IF you want to tie a proper Hendrickson, you are gonna need some Urine Dyed Vixen Fur.
Posted by: garrett
Are we talking about fur from a "vixen vixen" or a "saucy little vixen"?
If the latter, what'll we do if she refuses to let us shave her pubis?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020
*
*
"Fox urine. I figure it to last me all winter."
"If you drink it really slowly, it might last you two winters."
Posted by: garrett
Are we talking about fur from a "vixen vixen" or a "saucy little vixen"?
If the latter, what'll we do if she refuses to let us shave her pubis?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020
*
*
"Fox urine. I figure it to last me all winter."
"If you drink it really slowly, it might last you two winters."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (wQDH5)
462
(c) Biden or his surrogates would be here day/night if they thought Texas was a possibility.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM
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If Texas was really in play they would send obama on a tour of the large Cities to turn out the black vote and that isn't happening.
Plus whatever money biden spent here is gone. He had a few days worth of ads on TV and I haven't seen any for two weeks now.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM
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If Texas was really in play they would send obama on a tour of the large Cities to turn out the black vote and that isn't happening.
Plus whatever money biden spent here is gone. He had a few days worth of ads on TV and I haven't seen any for two weeks now.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (JUOKG)
463
greet
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (m45I2)
464
344, TJM, each state has a voter history file which includes which primary ballot you chose in states with open primaries. Some states have formal party registration. Both plus the historical voting pattern in a state, district, and precinct, give some kind of idea about the "normal" vote. AND each time, special, primary, general election that you vote in, it is recorded on your voter history file.
So, they have a pretty good idea about regular voters who is voting for what. In deep red or deep blue states, where the primary is all of the action, you may see this assumption break down but overall the modeling is pretty solid.
But, these assumptions often get blown in a wave election because of seldom and never voters voting in that particular election. If they stay mobilized for a couple of election cycles, it becomes a realignment.
What is unknown in 2020 is the turnout and voting patterns of the less likely (spotty voting record) and never voted voters. In 2008 they turned out for Obama in many places even without a GOTV or contact. Not so much when the hope was gone in 2012 which was a GOTV and base election which is typical with incumbents.
Even aside from the herd characteristics of the media pollsters who are by and large liberal to ultra liberal, Trump has a personal constituency that makes it hard to model and these particular voters may have no interest in being surveyed. This is certainly more likely for the seldom and never voters that might turnout this election.
So, they have a pretty good idea about regular voters who is voting for what. In deep red or deep blue states, where the primary is all of the action, you may see this assumption break down but overall the modeling is pretty solid.
But, these assumptions often get blown in a wave election because of seldom and never voters voting in that particular election. If they stay mobilized for a couple of election cycles, it becomes a realignment.
What is unknown in 2020 is the turnout and voting patterns of the less likely (spotty voting record) and never voted voters. In 2008 they turned out for Obama in many places even without a GOTV or contact. Not so much when the hope was gone in 2012 which was a GOTV and base election which is typical with incumbents.
Even aside from the herd characteristics of the media pollsters who are by and large liberal to ultra liberal, Trump has a personal constituency that makes it hard to model and these particular voters may have no interest in being surveyed. This is certainly more likely for the seldom and never voters that might turnout this election.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (pO7gM)
465
My secret Wyoming C-corp filing required that I secretly drive to Wyoming and open a secret bank account in person, secretly.
Posted by: Menack at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (buTO7)
466
Anal-wise, anal-wise
Every morning you great me.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)
Smart-ass.
Every morning you great me.
Posted by: Muldoon at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (m45I2)
Smart-ass.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (/EuRN)
467
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM
That's just the stuff that's publicly available knowledge. Given Trump's penchant for declassifying things, I would not be at all surprised for some info that should really piss people off to drop. But I can't say more than that.
That's just the stuff that's publicly available knowledge. Given Trump's penchant for declassifying things, I would not be at all surprised for some info that should really piss people off to drop. But I can't say more than that.
Posted by: Bert G at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (OMsf+)
468
People are going to be pissed when it comes out that China has been colonizing us in various Universities with Chinese nationals through the foundations set up by mainly the Democrats like the Bidens. It's really bad. Then the money laundering to help fund BLM and AntiFa.
This is nothing short of a military invasion by the CCP through politicians like Joe Biden.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM (W8o7h)
And the Bush family as well. The GOPe likes money too. I wonder where the McCain Institute gets its yuan?
This is nothing short of a military invasion by the CCP through politicians like Joe Biden.
Posted by: DEBUNKED at October 22, 2020 12:02 PM (W8o7h)
And the Bush family as well. The GOPe likes money too. I wonder where the McCain Institute gets its yuan?
Posted by: CN at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (5tkqb)
470
Good idea. I'll have to make frequent requests
from the beverage cart. Though it's not a very long flight so they may
only come through once.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (Txle7)
Pretty sure you won't be able to order a cocktail. When my husband flew out west on bidness, Delta was only serving bottled water in first class.
Good idea. I'll have to make frequent requests
from the beverage cart. Though it's not a very long flight so they may
only come through once.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (Txle7)
Pretty sure you won't be able to order a cocktail. When my husband flew out west on bidness, Delta was only serving bottled water in first class.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Braenyard at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (tyEy7)
472
458 LASue,
Saw a local report of some weird happenings in Austin, as in regular Dems suddenly donating to local Rep. candidates. These folks just might not want to be the next Kenosha, Portland, or Seattle.
Saw a local report of some weird happenings in Austin, as in regular Dems suddenly donating to local Rep. candidates. These folks just might not want to be the next Kenosha, Portland, or Seattle.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (pO7gM)
473
Pulling away from the gate now.
I can't stand this blankety mask.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (RHMFE)
It's not wrong until you get caught......twice.
I can't stand this blankety mask.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (RHMFE)
It's not wrong until you get caught......twice.
Posted by: Roland THTG at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (cJEnq)
474
My secret Wyoming C-corp filing required that I secretly drive to Wyoming and open a secret bank account in person, secretly.
Posted by: Menack
You just provided someone at the NSA with a couple of weeks' worth of work. Thanks!
My secret Wyoming C-corp filing required that I secretly drive to Wyoming and open a secret bank account in person, secretly.
Posted by: Menack
You just provided someone at the NSA with a couple of weeks' worth of work. Thanks!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (pNxlR)
475
469 Warai-otoko
You mean she's the Thing from Antarctica that Kurt Russell tried to kill?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (5tkqb)
lawl
You mean she's the Thing from Antarctica that Kurt Russell tried to kill?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (5tkqb)
lawl
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (/EuRN)
476
472 458 LASue,
Saw a local report of some weird happenings in Austin, as in regular Dems suddenly donating to local Rep. candidates. These folks just might not want to be the next Kenosha, Portland, or Seattle.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (pO7gM)
==========
I saw that too.
I'm beginning to think that down ballot may be worse for Democrats than the presidential race.
Saw a local report of some weird happenings in Austin, as in regular Dems suddenly donating to local Rep. candidates. These folks just might not want to be the next Kenosha, Portland, or Seattle.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:06 PM (pO7gM)
==========
I saw that too.
I'm beginning to think that down ballot may be worse for Democrats than the presidential race.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, levelling Metropolis to save it at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (NWM+b)
477
Trump's secret China bank account on his tax returns? China itself was my bank account!
Posted by: Joe Biden at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (fFtVH)
478
>>452 I have been told, that on the plane, you can lower your mask to eat or drink. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (dLkYS)
In time, this awkward arrangement will be handled via the introduction of administered slurry-feed. Simply install a port in the facemask with a straw, insert straw into slurry-bottle, suck. No chewing, no exposure, no contamination.
Kraft Slurry-Feed.
In time, this awkward arrangement will be handled via the introduction of administered slurry-feed. Simply install a port in the facemask with a straw, insert straw into slurry-bottle, suck. No chewing, no exposure, no contamination.
Kraft Slurry-Feed.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (xK9An)
479
I saw that too.
I'm beginning to think that down ballot may be worse for Democrats than the presidential race.
I sure hope so. Here in PA I am worried that crossover democrats will revert to form and split the ticket.
I'm beginning to think that down ballot may be worse for Democrats than the presidential race.
I sure hope so. Here in PA I am worried that crossover democrats will revert to form and split the ticket.
Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (DJFLF)
Posted by: Tami at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (cF8AT)
481
Trump's secret China bank account on his tax returns? China itself was my bank account!
How dare a man with international businesses have international bank accounts?
How dare a man with international businesses have international bank accounts?
Posted by: common sense at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (UCCfH)
482
And I have discovered on Amazon that 'Shapeshifter Romance' is a category
When the Fur Flies: A Furry 50 Shades of Russet
I think not.
When the Fur Flies: A Furry 50 Shades of Russet
I think not.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (5tkqb)
483
Democrat Thinking: 2016 was a fluke. You don't get two fluke elections in a row. Biden will win.
Posted by: Marcus T at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (VpIIl)
484
Likely she pulled a McDougall. Keep your mouth shut, take one for the team and you'll be taken care of.
Didn't he die broke, alone in a trailer? Not even a Double Wide.
Didn't he die broke, alone in a trailer? Not even a Double Wide.
Posted by: Paladin at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (3YWub)
485
I believe you can carry on sealed beverages.
Posted by: Braenyard at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (tyEy7)
486
417- If he's too far up, or too far down, people might tend to stay home.
Our interests are bet served by polls showing close races, not a blowout.
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM
Good point, but I think Trump's voters are "crawl-over-broken-glass" types. Personally, I would like to see a little breathing room open up in the numbers so I can relax a wee bit.
Our interests are bet served by polls showing close races, not a blowout.
Posted by: LASue at October 22, 2020 11:57 AM
Good point, but I think Trump's voters are "crawl-over-broken-glass" types. Personally, I would like to see a little breathing room open up in the numbers so I can relax a wee bit.
Posted by: Moonbeam at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (qe5CM)
487
They won't let you on the plane without one. So unfortunately this time I have to comply. Doesn't sit well with me.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
I flew to visit my granddaughter for her birthday back in May. The plane wasn't even 1/3 full. The airports were ghost towns.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
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I was on planes to/from Denver in the last 2 weeks. Both times on Boeing 777 (yuge planes) and both times full. Airports are getting busier, although not anything like they ought to be. People mostly being polite to each other and putting up with all the mask nonsense in order to get where they want to go.
In the Denver airport, I saw a young man, college age perhaps, wearing an "Oregon for Trump" red hat. He was a big guy, and nobody seemed to notice the hat, or if they did they weren't there in enough numbers to take him on.
I noticed the hat and it made me smile.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 22, 2020 11:56 AM (Txle7)
I flew to visit my granddaughter for her birthday back in May. The plane wasn't even 1/3 full. The airports were ghost towns.
It was like the end of the world.
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 11:58 AM (XdJb+)
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I was on planes to/from Denver in the last 2 weeks. Both times on Boeing 777 (yuge planes) and both times full. Airports are getting busier, although not anything like they ought to be. People mostly being polite to each other and putting up with all the mask nonsense in order to get where they want to go.
In the Denver airport, I saw a young man, college age perhaps, wearing an "Oregon for Trump" red hat. He was a big guy, and nobody seemed to notice the hat, or if they did they weren't there in enough numbers to take him on.
I noticed the hat and it made me smile.
Posted by: Boots at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (oGBso)
488
Michael Steele, ex GOP chairman has an op-ed out today begging everyone to vote for Biden.
McCain, Steele, Romney, Ryan. The GOP leadership of a generation.
McCain, Steele, Romney, Ryan. The GOP leadership of a generation.
Posted by: Asshoes at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (22mNy)
489
Nood
Posted by: ALH at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (XdJb+)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (pNxlR)
491
"Fox urine. I figure it to last me all winter."
"If you drink it really slowly, it might last you two winters."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (wQDH5)
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Red Sky at Morning.
Great book.
"Fox urine. I figure it to last me all winter."
"If you drink it really slowly, it might last you two winters."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (wQDH5)
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Red Sky at Morning.
Great book.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (WEBkv)
492
I sure hope so. Here in PA I am worried that crossover democrats will revert to form and split the ticket.
Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (DJFLF)
PA GOP is dogshit, but I bit the bullet and voted straight ticket just out of pure spite.
I sure hope so. Here in PA I am worried that crossover democrats will revert to form and split the ticket.
Posted by: kallisto at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (DJFLF)
PA GOP is dogshit, but I bit the bullet and voted straight ticket just out of pure spite.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (/EuRN)
493
zerohedge says Trump has posted the '60 Minutes' interview.
Between Tubin, and I must have heard about the interview in the background, I actually did have a dream where a college Leslie Stahl was pleasuring herself.
I woke up wondering what the hell that was. I haven't heard of the bitch in decades....
Between Tubin, and I must have heard about the interview in the background, I actually did have a dream where a college Leslie Stahl was pleasuring herself.
I woke up wondering what the hell that was. I haven't heard of the bitch in decades....
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (v2c9/)
494
482 And I have discovered on Amazon that 'Shapeshifter Romance' is a category
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (5tkqb)
Oooooooo.
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:08 PM (5tkqb)
Oooooooo.
Posted by: Odo at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (PiwSw)
495
Germany is getting wave two of the virus. Cases spiked there this week to record levels not seen before.
And they are still on lock down.
And they are still on lock down.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (JUOKG)
496
"a political system in which government derives its powers from the consent of the governed" is vague anyway. Thomas Hobbes and Niccolo Machiavelli teach that all governments so derive their powers. The moment the governed do not so consent, it gets Wat Tyler.
Governments can only claim the origins of consent. For Isabella of Castile, it was God. For Americans, it's the Constitution. Neither mean anything.
Governments can only claim the origins of consent. For Isabella of Castile, it was God. For Americans, it's the Constitution. Neither mean anything.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at October 22, 2020 12:09 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 12:11 PM (v2c9/)
498
Everyone saying Texas cannot go blue....have you been to Dallas or Houston or San Antonio in the past 5ish years? The cities of TX are as liberal as any cities in CA.
They are not really comparable. To take just one example, in 2016, Los Angeles county was almost 75 - 25 for Hillary and against trump. Harris County (Houston) was roughly 54 - 42. So is Houston blue, yes. California blue, no. Bexar (San Antonio) was similar, 54 - 40 roughly. Dallas is closer to LA-like numbers at roughly 60 - 35. That leaves Travis (Austin) at about 65 - 27, which is awful but surprises no one. In Texas, the rest of the state can hope to make up the difference, something that is not true in CA, I don't think.
They are not really comparable. To take just one example, in 2016, Los Angeles county was almost 75 - 25 for Hillary and against trump. Harris County (Houston) was roughly 54 - 42. So is Houston blue, yes. California blue, no. Bexar (San Antonio) was similar, 54 - 40 roughly. Dallas is closer to LA-like numbers at roughly 60 - 35. That leaves Travis (Austin) at about 65 - 27, which is awful but surprises no one. In Texas, the rest of the state can hope to make up the difference, something that is not true in CA, I don't think.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at October 22, 2020 12:11 PM (H5knJ)
499
"Fox urine. I figure it to last me all winter."
"If you drink it really slowly, it might last you two winters."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (wQDH5)
-------------------
Red Sky at Morning.
Great book.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020
*
*
I wondered if anybody would get that!
"If you drink it really slowly, it might last you two winters."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM (wQDH5)
-------------------
Red Sky at Morning.
Great book.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020
*
*
I wondered if anybody would get that!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:12 PM (wQDH5)
500
476, A wave election comes from a voter preference cascade that sometimes comes pretty late in the election cycle--about two weeks before in 2010, dissipated in 2018 during the last two weeks, and 2016 was a weird status quo type of election downballot probably because of uncertainties about Trump and Clinton. Truman beat Dewey in 1948 in another wave election that broke quite late in the game.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:13 PM (pO7gM)
501
I have been told, that on the plane, you can lower your mask to eat or drink. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at October 22, 2020 12:01 PM (dLkYS)
In time, this awkward arrangement will be handled via the introduction of administered slurry-feed. Simply install a port in the facemask with a straw, insert straw into slurry-bottle, suck. No chewing, no exposure, no contamination.
Kraft Slurry-Feed.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (xK9An)
Probably depends on which entity is more cozy with the politicians, but a competing option is an all purpose port installed into the back of the seat. One capable of providing not just nourishment while on the flight, but all sorts of creature comforts.
The individual sits down, plugs the device on their seat into a corresponding connector in the back of their heads, right above the neck, in the soft tissue below the skull. That way they can enjoy food and drink that will pass into the esophagus round the front, as well as tapping into the cerebral cortex, with exciting games, movies, music, etc.
If advancements are made quickly, and they should be, it ought to be possible to tap into the base of the brain, the parts that regulate heart rates, perception of threats, heat and light and sleep regulation, so the passenger can enjoy the comfort of almost anything they desire, while flying at 50,000 feet.
What a world that will be....
In time, this awkward arrangement will be handled via the introduction of administered slurry-feed. Simply install a port in the facemask with a straw, insert straw into slurry-bottle, suck. No chewing, no exposure, no contamination.
Kraft Slurry-Feed.
Posted by: Zod at October 22, 2020 12:07 PM (xK9An)
Probably depends on which entity is more cozy with the politicians, but a competing option is an all purpose port installed into the back of the seat. One capable of providing not just nourishment while on the flight, but all sorts of creature comforts.
The individual sits down, plugs the device on their seat into a corresponding connector in the back of their heads, right above the neck, in the soft tissue below the skull. That way they can enjoy food and drink that will pass into the esophagus round the front, as well as tapping into the cerebral cortex, with exciting games, movies, music, etc.
If advancements are made quickly, and they should be, it ought to be possible to tap into the base of the brain, the parts that regulate heart rates, perception of threats, heat and light and sleep regulation, so the passenger can enjoy the comfort of almost anything they desire, while flying at 50,000 feet.
What a world that will be....
Posted by: BurtTC at October 22, 2020 12:13 PM (hku12)
502
Since Texas does not have party registration, how is that 10 point lead guesstimated?
Posted by: Count de Monet
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All states are known within a fraction of a percent through election result history and voter files. There is a service that provides this for all states, including those without registration ID.
So Texas, WI, and MI early vote party ID is known.
Posted by: Count de Monet
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All states are known within a fraction of a percent through election result history and voter files. There is a service that provides this for all states, including those without registration ID.
So Texas, WI, and MI early vote party ID is known.
Posted by: Dave in Fla at October 22, 2020 12:13 PM (5p7BC)
Posted by: Stateless Infidel at October 22, 2020 12:13 PM (v2c9/)
504
Randy Quaid speaks out on the Biden election.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1316021354555076608
Posted by: Braenyard
Santa Claus has taken too much acid.
https://twitter.com/i/status/1316021354555076608
Posted by: Braenyard
Santa Claus has taken too much acid.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 22, 2020 12:14 PM (+y/Ru)
505
Nancy Pelosi thinks she is Queen of the world.
To the barricades mon amis!
She needs an extra close haircut by Monsieur Guillotine!
/sarc?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (5tkqb)
Please.
Her head would probably sprout little Boston Dynamics robot legs and scuttle away on its own.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (/EuRN)
Crab legs and stalked eyes like Carpenter's The Thing.
Nancy Pelosi thinks she is Queen of the world.
To the barricades mon amis!
She needs an extra close haircut by Monsieur Guillotine!
/sarc?
Posted by: Anna Puma at October 22, 2020 12:03 PM (5tkqb)
Please.
Her head would probably sprout little Boston Dynamics robot legs and scuttle away on its own.
Posted by: Warai-otoko at October 22, 2020 12:04 PM (/EuRN)
Crab legs and stalked eyes like Carpenter's The Thing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 22, 2020 12:18 PM (EGyGV)
506
486Good point, but I think Trump's voters are "crawl-over-broken-glass" types. Personally, I would like to see a little breathing room open up in the numbers so I can relax a wee bit
I hear you. I feel the same way. It is taking major self control to wait on EV till next week as I've planned. Neither I nor husband have voted yet. One son's Absentee Ballot still uncounted. South Florida all.
I hear you. I feel the same way. It is taking major self control to wait on EV till next week as I've planned. Neither I nor husband have voted yet. One son's Absentee Ballot still uncounted. South Florida all.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 12:21 PM (ppMjB)
507
464 344, TJM, each state has a voter history file which includes which primary ballot you chose in states with open primaries. Some states have formal party registration. Both plus the historical voting pattern in a state, district, and precinct, give some kind of idea about the "normal" vote. AND each time, special, primary, general election that you vote in, it is recorded on your voter history file.
So, they have a pretty good idea about regular voters who is voting for what.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM
When I moved back to NC from MN, I registered as an Independent. I took a Republican ballot for voting in the primary and, let me tell you, Donald Trump and Thom Tillis know! They had no trouble finding me on direct mail, email, text, etc. But I also get a lot of text messages from liberal groups and DFL campaigns in MN, where I was registered as a Republican. I have no idea what I did to get their wires so crossed up!
So, they have a pretty good idea about regular voters who is voting for what.
Posted by: whig at October 22, 2020 12:05 PM
When I moved back to NC from MN, I registered as an Independent. I took a Republican ballot for voting in the primary and, let me tell you, Donald Trump and Thom Tillis know! They had no trouble finding me on direct mail, email, text, etc. But I also get a lot of text messages from liberal groups and DFL campaigns in MN, where I was registered as a Republican. I have no idea what I did to get their wires so crossed up!
Posted by: Moonbeam at October 22, 2020 12:22 PM (qe5CM)
508
I wondered if anybody would get that!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:12 PM (wQDH5)
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I laughed at the hugging the dead horse and puking his brains out passage.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at October 22, 2020 12:12 PM (wQDH5)
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I laughed at the hugging the dead horse and puking his brains out passage.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at October 22, 2020 12:23 PM (WEBkv)
509
506- I hear you. I feel the same way. It is taking major self control to wait on EV till next week as I've planned. Neither I nor husband have voted yet. One son's Absentee Ballot still uncounted. South Florida all.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 12:21 PM
I had originally planned to vote on election day, but I am now wavering just a bit based on anticipated voter turnout. EV runs through 10/31, so I might break down and just go get 'er done.
Posted by: Floridachick at October 22, 2020 12:21 PM
I had originally planned to vote on election day, but I am now wavering just a bit based on anticipated voter turnout. EV runs through 10/31, so I might break down and just go get 'er done.
Posted by: Moonbeam at October 22, 2020 12:24 PM (qe5CM)
510
Early voting is your friend--things could get sporty on election day/night. Do it now!
Posted by: FriscoJim at October 22, 2020 02:29 PM (+56GQ)
511
Getting in on this very late, but I just want to compliment you, CBD, on your brilliance. It is people like you who Trump should bring in to work for his administration. Not these old swamp dwellers. Bravo!
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