Chris Wallace is a Disgrace <br>And Fox News May Very Well be Threatening Staffers Who Point This Fact Out

Chris Wallace is a Disgrace
And Fox News May Very Well be Threatening Staffers Who Point This Fact Out

The debate was about what you would expect. Trump was overly aggressive while Biden lied and relied on the moderator to save him continuously. That wasn't supposed to happen. This was Fox News, and Chris Wallace is supposed to be a serious newsman. He was anything but that, though.
As the night wore on, Wallace grew more and more hostile, refusing to let Trump answer questions at times, asking slanted questions that benefitted Biden, and not bringing up topics that would have been beneficial to the President. At one point, Wallace even joked with Biden about Trump supposedly ranting, which was really just Trump trying to answer a question, in what was one of the most unprofessional displays by a moderator I've seen.

Here's some more of the play by play to give you an idea if you didn't watch it yourself.

Biden doesn't support the Green New Deal.
Oh, Wallace got that out of him?
No, Trump did.
Oh, well, did Wallace clarify what parts of Green New Deal Biden is against?
No, needed to move on...
-- Andy McCarthy (@AndrewCMcCarthy) September 30, 2020

I was going out of my head with Chris Wallace declaring the urgent "NEED TO MOVE ON" every single time Trump was effectively attacking Biden.

We NEED TO MOVE ON from every single issue that Republicans find interesting, in order to discuss the issues that Democrats -- such as red diaper baby Chris Wallace -- find interesting.

No, we can't talk about Hunter Biden's receipt of three and a half million dollars from the richest woman in Russia, the ex-wife of a former mayor of Moscow.

Even though the media -- including leftwinger Chris Wallace -- considered RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE the only story that mattered for three and a half of the last four years, now that we've got Hunter Biden taking millions of Russian money, we NEED TO MOVE ON.

Move on to what?

Why -- to Global Warming, of course!

@EddieZipperer
4h
Wallace in a nutshell: Excuse me! Excuse me! Nobody cares about the things you're talking about, Mr. President. The American people want to know where the two of you stand on the issues that matter to them. Now, Mr. President, how much did you pay in taxes in 2016?

More Bonchie:

One of the worst moments of the night was Chris Wallace pretending as if he doesn't know what Critical Race Theory is and trying to needle Trump for opposing it.

I believe Chris Wallace does know what Critical Race Theory is. He just supports it, and therefore wants to do the Motte and Bailey defense of it:

The motte-and-bailey fallacy (named after the motte-and-bailey castle) is a form of argument and an informal fallacy where an arguer conflates two positions which share similarities, one modest and easy to defend (the "motte") and one much more controversial (the "bailey").[1] The arguer advances the controversial position, but when challenged, they insist that they are only advancing the more modest position.[2][3] Upon retreating to the motte, the arguer can claim that the bailey has not been refuted (because the critic refused to attack the motte)[1] or that the critic is unreasonable (by equating an attack on the bailey with an attack on the motte).[4]

This is such a common logical fallacy offered by leftists that they don't even know it's a fallacy-- they just think it's how people argue.

Critical Race Theory gets its foot in the door by saying, "What's wrong with teaching people some sensitivity?"

And then, once they get hired by a corporation or a government, they have white people standing alone in front of a group being forced (on pain of being derailed in your career) to Confess Their White Sins.

It's a literal Maoist struggle session.

Chris Wallace pretends he doesn't know that -- because he's playing the Motte and Bailey game with CRT.

It's a thoroughly dishonest, and thoroughly leftist, tacitc.

And Chris Wallace -- who reports FACTS, not OPINIONS! -- is only too eager to deploy it.

And that's because Chris Wallace agrees with this leftwing Maoist goal of endlessly denigrating white people and treating them as lower than second class citizens.

Chris Wallace, like all other left-liberals, thinks that white people should be discriminated against.

Except themselves, of course. Interestingly, most of the very white people who support this shit are too rich to be negatively impacted by a reimposition of Jim Crow.

Conveniently enough!

But perhaps the biggest abdication of Wallace's duty involved the very beginning of the debate. Biden was asked if he supports packing the court, one of the most damaging, consequential possibilities in modern American history. When Biden refused to answer the question, Wallace simply moved on. When Trump tried to press, Biden told him to shut up and Wallace just let it happen. It was astonishing to watch.

Wallace also never demanded that Biden condemn BLM or antifa -- despite himself demanding that Trump condemn the "white supremacists" in Kenosha -- and did not press Biden's claim that antifa was "just an idea, not an organization."

Apparently it's "just an idea" that's burning down your business and gunning people down in the street.

More at the link, including reactions in tweet form.

It was so bad that even fellow Fox hosts Brian Kilmeade and Greg Gutfeld felt the need to risk being fired to criticize Chris Wallace.

Kilmeade tweeted, "Why is @JoeBiden allowed to interrupt? @realDonaldTrump is not."
Gutfeld, in response to a tweet that said that Wallace was laughing along with Biden wasn't a good look, tweeted, "That was not good."

Andrew McCarthy, a Fox News contributor, also criticized Wallace, as seen in the tweet quoted from the Bonchie article, above.

Now, Kilmeade has deleted his criticism of Wallace. Whether that was out of professional respect or the corporate enforcers of Fox telling him to delete it or face consequences, I don't know. I'd imagine that even if it was his own decision, it was a decision informed by the knowledge that Fox News is a censorious corporate cult and does not permit any Wrongthink outside the narrow corridor of neoliberal Acela-corridor ruling-class-supporting thought.

Had enough yet?

We NEED TO MOVE ON from Fox.

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

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1 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at September 30, 2020 12:01 PM (i9P97)

2 Wallace must suck a mean cock to have the kind of protection he gets from Fox Corporate.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:02 PM (DSwje)

3 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 30, 2020 12:02 PM (UWqZJ)

4 Sue the crap out of the Biden campaign, Mr. Lin Wood!

Posted by: attila the reasonable at September 30, 2020 12:03 PM (w7KSn)

5 NeedToMoveOn.org

Posted by: t-bird at September 30, 2020 12:03 PM (WLHrn)

6 I thought Trump clearly beat Wallace in the debate.

And the other guy too, the old dude.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at September 30, 2020 12:03 PM (VtXra)

7 If Chris Wallace wasn't willing to play along with Biden, he never would have gotten the job. Personally, I think the left will be in frothing hatred of him for offering any criticism at all of Biden, much less letting Trump stomp all over him.

That said, the "commission" is garbage and Trump needs to bypass them. Debate Kanye, hosted by Rogan.

Posted by: trev006 at September 30, 2020 12:03 PM (8UxvC)

8 RECLAIMING MY TIME

Posted by: sharksauce at September 30, 2020 12:03 PM (DFZnL)

9 On Maria Bartiromo this morning, she referred to Chris as "the moderator" when he was criticized by one of her guests for the way he handled the debate.

Posted by: JuJuBee, just generally being shamey at September 30, 2020 12:04 PM (mNhhD)

10 lets see if this places God, Tucker Carlson rips PISS Wallace a new asshole. My guess is he will praise the job he did in a untenable position.
I am done with FUX News I wish Xfinity would get OAN, But I will watch Newsmax, The 1st & the other Conservative Network on Roku channel & CSPAN for Political PC's a shit

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:04 PM (1Dmt5)

11 Tucker needs to leave FOX and go independent. Sure, he won't make the money he does now but we all have to make sacrifices in life. I'm sure a guy as smart as he is has saved up quite a bit of money over the years. He doesn't have to live in DC. He could move to anywhere in the heartland and still have an above average lifestyle. Do it Tucker. Just do it!

Posted by: Augustine at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (Alp4m)

12 Wallace must suck a mean cock to have the kind of protection he gets from Fox Corporate.
Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:02 PM (DSwje)

Chris Wallace, Ben Shapiro, and Seth Myers all keep their jobs despite being supremely unfit for the role. Why? It is a mystery.

Posted by: trev006 at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (8UxvC)

13 >>>4 Sue the crap out of the Biden campaign, Mr. Lin Wood!

As Chris Wallace would say: That's our next topic. WE NEED TO MOVE ON.

Posted by: ace at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (PbpT7)

14 https://bit.ly/3idGrR3
********
This is the RINOe head on the Presidential Debates Commision

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (1Dmt5)

15 The woman from "U.S.A Today" who is the moderator for the next debate probably won't do much better.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (WkPC9)

16 If there had been no Mike Wallace would we have ever heard of Chris?

Posted by: Old Dude at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (LGXGf)

17 You are all a bunch of no-nooders.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:06 PM (Ez6QX)

18 Chris Wallace supports Critical Race Theory while living large on his nepot privilege.

Posted by: x at September 30, 2020 12:06 PM (nFwvY)

19 Posted by: Augustine at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (Alp4m
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lets see if this places God, Tucker Carlson rips PISS Wallace a new asshole. My guess is he will praise the job he did in a untenable position.
I am done with FUX News I wish Xfinity would get OAN, But I will watch Newsmax, The 1st & the other Conservative Network on Roku channel & CSPAN for Political PC's and shit

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:06 PM (1Dmt5)

20 Chris Wallace, Ben Shapiro, and Seth Myers all keep their jobs despite being supremely unfit for the role. Why? It is a mystery.
Posted by: trev006 at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (8UxvC)

Chris Wallace will be given a million dollar bonus by the Murdoch brothers for following their orders perfectly.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:06 PM (Kpl3J)

21 It was obvious last night when I watched Laura Ingraham that there would be no mention of Wallace.

I live next door to my cousin, I was yelling so loud watching the debate he came over to see if I was ok.

Posted by: JROD at September 30, 2020 12:07 PM (0jZnq)

22

The problem at FOX is that they used to let their people talk openly and give their own opinions.

With the kids taking over, and now one leaving, that is no longer allowed.

FOX is "transitioning".

To what, I'm not exactly sure.

But Tucker, Gutfeld, Kilmeade, and a few others can join the Trump Broadcasting Network when it starts operations in 2025.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 30, 2020 12:07 PM (sy5kK)

23 I keep wondering why all these people who believe that white people are inherently racist don't quit so a brown person can have their spot.
Kinda like Yale saying they're systematically racist, but not THAT racist.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2020 12:07 PM (S5OQe)

24 >>>11 Tucker needs to leave FOX and go independent. Sure, he won't make the money he does now but we all have to make sacrifices in life. I'm sure a guy as smart as he is has saved up quite a bit of money over the years. He doesn't have to live in DC. He could move to anywhere in the heartland and still have an above average lifestyle. Do it Tucker. Just do it!

indeed. I imagine the money would come quickly enough, except for one thing: It's hard to get all the cable companies to agree to add your channel to their lineup. They all colluded to keep The Blaze off cable. They will refuse to add "another" conservatie cable tv channel, even though it's really the ONLY conservative channel.

The only way to do this would be to mostly run an internet network.

That's fine for me because I watch the internet more than tv. MUCH more. but I don't think older people do that.

i also know that internet ad rates are bad, particularly for CONSERVATIVE political channels.

All the #WokeAss corporations boycott you.

Posted by: ace at September 30, 2020 12:07 PM (PbpT7)

25 Posted by: chimpy at September 30, 2020 12:06 PM (fZhmn)
*******
OK Dicksucker

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:08 PM (1Dmt5)

26 15 The woman from "U.S.A Today" who is the moderator for the next debate probably won't do much better.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2020 12:05 PM (WkPC9)

I thought the next moderator was Steve Scully from C-SPAN?

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:08 PM (Ez6QX)

27 This is all wet. I watched the debate after reading the ace comment threads. Wallace actually knifed Biden a few times, tried to keep Trump from talking over Biden, and Biden was a wet noodle.

Wallace's question about "why ain't you never called Portland, Mr. 'I am the DNC'?" was pretty brutal. Biden had no answer.

Trump's super predator bit was a war crime.

Biden ... sigh. He came with one thing in mind...insult trump and those fell flat.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at September 30, 2020 12:08 PM (4RcDR)

28 Anecdote:
The wife actually watched the debate last nigh while I was off killing cultists and mongrelmen (sadly, only in Pathfinder).

She did not find Wallace biased but thought 'he couldn't control either of them'.

She doesn't like Trump, she will never like Trump but she came away from the debate really, really disliking Biden.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (lLlsv)

29 I wasn't surprised that Left Wing Shill Wallace did what dishonest hacks like him do. However, I was shocked at the extent to which he took it. He looked like Candy Crowley, only more effeminate and with puffier lips.

A moderator is meant to be invisible. Wallace should have shared the podium with Biden.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (VpIIl)

30
Limbaugh NOT pleased with Wallace. Good.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (s2VJv)

31
And just got here, but once again, JJ's stellar analysis of last night's debate.

Our guy was not going to win, being 2 on 1 and all, but Trump succeeded in fractioning the split between the old-line Karen Democrats and the Commie Democrats.

The left was whining after the debate last night.
Mission accomplished, President Trump.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (sy5kK)

32 time for the crew to walk over to OAN and leave the Murdock kids in the ditch

Posted by: projection on steroids at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (V9NdA)

33 Biden's phase II plan is now to rely on WSup nonsense as if his voters didn't just burn cities to the ground. And it's annoying because most of us don't want to touch that ws stuff but if anyone to the right of Biden who fights back is one, then that's a rhetorical trap we need to shut down.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (4RcDR)

34
Yep. I turned on Fox this morning to see who would call out Wallace by name on live tv. Nope.

The "moderator" was used here and there (even on Ingraham's show last night - which I tracked down on YouTube this morning).

They were not allowed to use that pos's name. The "moderator" was used and gently.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:11 PM (rjE57)

35 33 time for the crew to walk over to OAN and leave the Murdock kids in the ditch
Posted by: projection on steroids at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (V9NdA)

A measly half billion and you can come over to the Sefton Network.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2020 12:11 PM (s2VJv)

36 How did the other guys in your support group think the Debate went, Ace?

Were they split on the winner?

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:11 PM (b7m49)

37 Laugh at me all you want guys, you didn't have Kamala waiting for you back stage after the debate was over.

By the way, she tells me the pineapple juice thing doesn't work, and I mean she'd know right?

Posted by: Chris Wallace at September 30, 2020 12:11 PM (qlFIA)

38 29 Anecdote:
The wife actually watched the debate last nigh while I was off killing cultists and mongrelmen (sadly, only in Pathfinder).

She did not find Wallace biased but thought 'he couldn't control either of them'.

She doesn't like Trump, she will never like Trump but she came away from the debate really, really disliking Biden.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (lLlsv)

=========

This means that all Trump haters now dislike Biden!

What's an anecdote? It's the same as data, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (UWqZJ)

39 Rush has been a Wallace apologist for well over a decade.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (b7m49)

40 Biden lumbered over the low bar set for him. Wallace could not even to manage such a feat.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (KnJdm)

41 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (vf0Uk)

42 i also know that internet ad rates are bad, particularly for CONSERVATIVE political channels.

All the #WokeAss corporations boycott you.
Posted by: ace at S

---> well, this is the problem. Fox News has ratings but just the pillow guy supporting them.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (4RcDR)

43 Spot on Ace. Spot fucking on.

This is why I don't care if Trump is rude. The left is politely destroying everything.

And is getting away with it.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (emxxF)

44 Yeah, had enough a long time ago.

As with past debates, Wallace and Biden team likely coordinated the questions to get soundbites for campaign ads (think Stephanopolous asking about free birth control out of the blue in 2012).

The one talking point both the MSM and Biden have *seized on* is "he wouldn't condemn white supremacists!!"

See Biden's tweet w/a Kyle Rittenhouse picture (enjoy the lawsuit) and Van Jones saying the three most important takeaways of the debate were three versions of he wouldn't condemn white supremacists!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (bDqIh)

45 While the winner of last night's debate may be open to discussion, the loser was clearly Miss Wallace.

Posted by: creeper at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (XxJt1)

46 Chris, Candy Crowley, Wallace is a POS

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (Zmnko)

47
Laura Ingraham tweeted that it was Trump against Biden and the moderator. Would be nice if someone at Fox on air called out that shithead Wallace but I doubt they will.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (mpeBU)

48 The left is politely destroying everything.

And is getting away with it.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (emxxF)

Politely?

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (Ez6QX)

49 Nailed it again, Sponge.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (b7m49)

50 But Jake Tapper's friend's 6th grader RAN FROM THE ROOM SCREAMING AND CRYING because ORANGEMANBAD, you guys......

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (vf0Uk)

51 Chris Wallace has no finesse..
Piker!

Posted by: Candy Crowley at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (bDqIh)

52 Limbaugh NOT pleased with Wallace. Good.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (s2VJv)
******
YAWN ! Rush still thinks FUX news is good

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (1Dmt5)

53 This was Fox News, and Chris Wallace is supposed to be a serious newsman. He was anything but that, though.
Since when?

Also...in Greater Libtardia, I'm sure its denizens are aghast at the way that Fascist moderator from Nazi Fox News treated their Precious Bidet.

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (DJFLF)

54 Anecdotal stuff:

At the cancer center in Madison, WI they TV was on Faux News, which isn't hen's teeth rare but is a touch rare.

Heard a woman talking with someone (right now the hospital is limited to patients for adults, so likely not a friend/relative) on how old and unwell Biden looks.

On the way out a group of old men where looking at the TV and talking about disapproving of the rioters. Not quite using Hoard language, but heard on mention law enforcement should be at the boarder turning trouble makers away.

Make of that as you will.

And the 20 minutes of waiting room while Faux was on was the most of that channel I've sat through at a time since forever, and I'm more than OK with that. Sure it beats the View but I wish the option for silence was there.

Posted by: Bete at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (LTNbI)

55 >>Jake Tapper's friend's 6th grader RAN FROM THE ROOM SCREAMING AND CRYING

Sounds like he'll fit in perfectly with their Support Group..

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (b7m49)

56
Politely?
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (Ez6QX)

It's a riff on the rude take on Trump.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (emxxF)

57 Here comes the troll

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (Zmnko)

58 Had more than enough, ace, and haven't seen 10 minutes of TV "news" for a decade.

Trump will win, bigly, in November.

But last night he didn't "fight for me", at all.

He has the skill, and the toughness, to take over from Wallace, and should have done so, the instant it was clear that Wallace was going to deliver the worst, most unfair performance in the history of these events, by far.

Court-packing question? Come right back to it, next time you speak. Smack down Wallace the instant he starts to complain - "no, Chris, it's not time to move on, Joe didn't answer the question, we're not 'moving on' until he does".

And on, and on, on every question.

And accepting the premise of the "Proud Boys" question, or even worse, "white supremacists", a disastrous failure worthy of Romney or McCain.

Posted by: rhomboid at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (OTzUX)

59 Had enough yet?

---

Long past having enough of DC and the media.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (RU4sa)

60 Chris Wallace is the Tori Spelling of the media - Perfect!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (Kpl3J)

61 Chrissy Wallace has a new nickname with me - that asshole Wallace.

Anyway time to do stuff

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (dw/If)

62 Maybe the positive takeaway from the debate is that Fox was clearly exposed for the Deep State Media arm that they are.

Posted by: tubal at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (bCLt0)

63 Jake Tapper's friend's 6th grader RAN FROM THE ROOM SCREAMING AND CRYING

___

Can't blame me for this kid screaming and crying haters. I didn't even smell her hair once!

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (qlFIA)

64 At the end of the day Trump got what he needed out of Biden -- soundbites on his insane policy positions.

Biden has spent the last several months either cooped up at home or conducting softball interviews and engagements. Biden's handlers have been careful in not letting him commit gaffs or get pinned down on policy other then in the most neutral way possible.

The debate last night was Trumps best chance to get Biden on the record -- unscripted and no handlers -- and committed to the most Leftist positions. For example:

Packing the Supreme Court -- "I'm not answering that question."

Denouncing ANTIFA -- Biden couldn't do it and then threw his Leftist supporters under the bus by saying he was against defunding the police.

Green New Deal -- I'm for it but I'm against it but I'm for it.

Hunter Biden 'pay-for-play' foreign influence -- 'That's a lie!'

The voters already know Trump is... animated... when it comes to talking and they expect that from him but they probably weren't expecting Biden to gaff on several very serious issues. I expect by the end of the week those moments will be packaged into targeted campaign ads in swing states... and Trump's objectives in the debate will be complete.

Posted by: Nevyan at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (a7HML)

65 Would be nice if someone at Fox on air called out that shithead Wallace but I doubt they will.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 30, 2020 12:13 PM (mpeBU)
*********
It's all about the Benjamin's for Tucker, Hedgehod & Laura

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (1Dmt5)

66 As I said last night, I've only been watching OANN for some time now. Can't remember the last time I watched Fox (except for TuCa, and even that's been some time ago).

Now, I don't believe for a moment that OANN is an impartial, nonpartisan news network. They're totally in the tank for Trump. But the thing is, they're pretty honest about that, and everyone who watches them knows it, too.

If I have to watch a biased news network, I'd rather watch one that isn't going to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (A1UwY)

67 Biden is an old, decrepit, deep swamp liar. But he's the only one who damaged himself last night. I'm laughing that Wallace finally asking him a few leading, layup questions which he stumbled on due to his absolute incompetence, represented 'Wallace going after him". If that's your conclusion, light yourself on fire.

The only thing that kept Biden from a total collapse was Trump interrupting his self immolation.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (VpIIl)

68 More than enough, Ace.

And great post.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (hYcqw)

69 indeed. I imagine the money would come quickly enough, except for one
thing: It's hard to get all the cable companies to agree to add your
channel to their lineup. They all colluded to keep The Blaze off cable.
They will refuse to add "another" conservatie cable tv channel, even
though it's really the ONLY conservative channel.

The only way to do this would be to mostly run an internet network.

That's fine for me because I watch the internet more than tv. MUCH more. but I don't think older people do that.

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Why couldn't he do something like Rogan? Not doing a 4 hour podcast, but just produce short 10 minute youtube segments?

I would suspect he is exploring such things - no? These guys are ambitious.

Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (sX1BW)

70 My favorite Wallace moment: "We need to stop talking about the Bidens taking bribes, and talk about something much more important - global warming."

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (kA3Cp)

71 It's a riff on the rude take on Trump.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (emxxF)

Ah. Sorry, I'm dumb.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (Ez6QX)

72 My favorite Wallace moment: "We need to stop talking about the Bidens
taking bribes, and talk about something much more important - global
warming."
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For the record, we agree.

Posted by: The Russians and Chinese paying Biden's bribes at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (qlFIA)

73 he will never like Trump but she came away from the debate really, really disliking Biden.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Mostly Peaceful, Free WA, Buy Ammo at September 30, 2020 12:10 PM (lLlsv)
I know someone - fits the collar county suburban mom profile perfectly. She's center-left-moderate, you know the type.She said Bidet is FOS claiming to be for law and order. She said it was disrespectful to call POTUS a clown. Showed no respect for the office.

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (DJFLF)

74 The woman from "U.S.A Today" who is the moderator for the next debate probably won't do much better.

They can use five moderators next time and still not swing a victory for Biden.

Posted by: t-bird at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (3fR4G)

75 Now, Kilmeade has deleted his criticism of Wallace. Whether that was out of professional respect or the corporate enforcers of Fox telling him to delete it or face consequences, I don't know. I'd imagine that even if it was his own decision, it was a decision informed by the knowledge that Fox News is a censorious corporate cult and does not permit any Wrongthink outside the narrow corridor of neoliberal Acela-corridor ruling-class-supporting thought.

The media knows who signs their paychecks and how those that sign them feel about things.

They're whores.

All of them.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (vf0Uk)

76 Why couldn't he do something like Rogan? Not doing a 4 hour podcast, but just produce short 10 minute youtube segments?

I would suspect he is exploring such things - no? These guys are ambitious.

Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (sX1BW)

A few short youtube segments is more work than a single 4-hour uncut podcast.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (CQ3Qb)

77
For me, it wasn't so much the interruptions and the orchestration, it was Wallace trafficking in stupid lies like the fine people hoax. What serious moderator would even ask about that?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (x/D2W)

78 I assume the GOP is loudly shouting that Chris Wallace was a disgrace.
sarcasm/

Posted by: N.L. Urker at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (lgiXo)

79 The only thing that kept Biden from a total collapse was Trump interrupting his self immolation.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (VpIIl)
Yep.
I hope next debate he draws Bidet into the old rope-a-dope.

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (DJFLF)

80 Had enough yet?

Posted by: Ace at 12:00 PM

___________

12 years ago and counting over here, boss!

Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (lwLKS)

81 >>4-hour uncut podcast.

This sounds like a Jake Tapper Joint :

4 Hours of discussing uncut cocks and the affect they have on his wife.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (b7m49)

82 I thought the next moderator was Steve Scully from C-SPAN?
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:08 PM (Ez6QX)

Well, maybe she's at the one after that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (WkPC9)

83 Chris Wallace was an embarrassment as both a moderator and participant.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (D1LgD)

84 Chris Wallace is the Tori Spelling of the media - Perfect!
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (Kpl3J)

When I was younger, out of all the women on 90210 that I COULD'VE had a wet dream about, it was her......

Talk about waking up with a complete WTF is wrong with my BRAIN!!??? feeling......

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (vf0Uk)

85 Had enough yet?

I spread the OAN word to my family, although half knew about the channel while others did not.

For me, living in a socialist's dream, I have to pay $4.99 a month for it, so... dunno. That is for the TV app. I'm not sure what can be found online.

I am curious how Tucker will cover Wallace tonight.

Also, Victor David Hanson. I am not sure he will be able to hold back.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (rjE57)

86
But Tucker, Gutfeld, Kilmeade, and a few others can join the Trump Broadcasting Network when it starts operations in 2025.

Please, no Kilmeade. He's another Bill O'Really in that he can talk for 10 minutes straight and not say anything of substance or even make a point.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Joe Biden killed my career at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (HaL55)

87 Posted by: chimpy at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (fZhmn)

Thx for the update, monkey brains. I'll go give Trump some money right now.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (WkPC9)

88 For me, it wasn't so much the interruptions and the orchestration, it was Wallace trafficking in stupid lies like the fine people hoax. What serious moderator would even ask about that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (x/D2W)

The climate change question and follow up bullshit about "science" really, really pissed me off.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (Ez6QX)

89 73
It's a riff on the rude take on Trump.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (emxxF)

Ah. Sorry, I'm dumb.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (Ez6QX)

I didn't catch it either. Sometimes jokes don't land well.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (KnJdm)

90 I assume the neverTrumpers are loudly praising Wallace.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (lgiXo)

91 Posted by: chimpy at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (fZhmn)
**********
Someone get rid of CHUMP

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (1Dmt5)

92 I don't think there will be another debate.

Biden said why last night. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY VOTING.

Why bother......

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (vf0Uk)

93
Chris Wallace is the Tori Spelling of the media - Perfect!

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (Kpl3J)

When I was younger, out of all the women on 90210 that I COULD'VE had a wet dream about, it was her......

Talk about waking up with a complete WTF is wrong with my BRAIN!!??? feeling......

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Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (sX1BW)

94 The last time I remember a debate being civil, constructive, and not dominated by bullshit was 2000 between Lieberman and Cheney. Anything since then has been point-scoring and tricking your opponent into saying something retarded, like Kerry with his "global test".

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (ykYG2)

95 I read Wallace interrupted PDT 35 times, Biden zero. That is indefensible. I used to look forward to the day I'd cancel cable (waiting until Tucker is banished), so I could defund CNN, now I want to defund Fox more than CNN.

Posted by: EveR at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (R0z7P)

96 Why bother......
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (vf0Uk)

---

Ego.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (RU4sa)

97 86
Chris Wallace was an embarrassment as both a moderator and participant.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at September 30, 2020 12:19 PM (D1LgD)

And as a human.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (KnJdm)

98 92 73
It's a riff on the rude take on Trump.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:14 PM (emxxF)

Ah. Sorry, I'm dumb.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:16 PM (Ez6QX)

I didn't catch it either. Sometimes jokes don't land well.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (KnJdm

I shoulda put quotes around politely.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (emxxF)

99 my take is that Wallace lost a lot of votes last night, his debate performance was not up to democrat standards.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (kA3Cp)

100 It was obvious last night when I watched Laura Ingraham that there would be no mention of Wallace.

Ingraham did criticize Wallace on Twitter, and her show likely is pre-taped, not live. (Most Fox opinion shows are).

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (ZGrMX)

101

Seems like social media was specifically created to take down an opposing party. I always found it to be the backdoor to invading one's privacy. That was just the tip of the iceberg.

This is an all out information war.

We are being forced into smaller and smaller corners.

Fox turned to sh*t. Now what?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (rjE57)

102 indeed. I imagine the money would come quickly enough, except for one thing: It's hard to get all the cable companies to agree to add your channel to their lineup. They all colluded to keep The Blaze off cable. They will refuse to add "another" conservatie cable tv channel, even though it's really the ONLY conservative channel. ...
Posted by: ace at September 30, 2020 12:07 PM (PbpT7)
++++++++++++
This is the big reason why I think - in the absence of "a la carte" cable packaging - streaming is going to eventually arrive at the answer. It's in gray middle ground now, but the best way to get a la carte is to cut out the middle man (the cable carrier). This is starting, and will get more popular. Want sports? Buy ESPN and leave the rest at the curb. Stream it in. This will continue as the big exclusive contracts with cable carriers start to turn over and the networks demand provisions that let them sell in isolation over the top via streaming.

This is already true of OAN. You can get their service (the stupidly named "KlowdTV") and depending on how much you want to pay you'll get OAN and Blaze and a couple of others, or you can pay more and get some more content. It isn't expensive in either case (and their basic package is free for the remainder of the year, I think).

This will be the model. The cable companies hate a la carte because it wrecks their subscription model and I think they have a vested interest in cramming shit you don't want down your throat. But their role will be increasingly obviated as the content creators like Discovery and ESPN and other networks (HGTV, for example, which is still in a legacy carriage contract) just start selling directly, delivering it via the internet, and your smart TV doesn't care whether it comes from Comcast or the network directly. It's all just a bag of bytes anyway.

A la carte will never come to cable (at least, not until it's too late), but it will absolutely come to streaming, and has already begun. And none of this "we don't have a carriage agreement with Echostar" crap like you have now, which locks you out of stuff you might want.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (hYcqw)

103 The point lost on many is that we have no idea what Biden's positions are on a whole host of issues since he indicated last night that many of his positions don't match with what is on his website.

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

104 Now, Kilmeade has deleted his criticism of Wallace. Whether that was out of professional respect or the corporate enforcers of Fox telling him to delete it or face consequences, I don't know. I'd imagine that even if it was his own decision, it was a decision informed by the knowledge that Fox News is a censorious corporate cult and does not permit any Wrongthink outside the narrow corridor of neoliberal Acela-corridor ruling-class-supporting thought.
***********
Keep watching FUX suckers

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (1Dmt5)

105 First, RBG succumbed. Now,
Helen Reddy dead at 78.

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

106 So why was Senile Joe even there?

Posted by: N.L. Urker at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (lgiXo)

107 Ingraham did criticize Wallace on Twitter, and her show likely is pre-taped, not live. (Most Fox opinion shows are).
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (ZGrMX)

both her and Hannity had post-debate shows

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (rjE57)

108 My first thoughts on finding out Wallace was to be a moderator was "Here we go again, Meghan Kelly reprise" but it turned out even worse. Trump was battling both crazy Biden and malicious Wallace.

Posted by: Decaf at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (nL4fk)

109 108 First, RBG succumbed. Now,
Helen Reddy dead at 78.
Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

And Mac Davis.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (s2VJv)

110 >>For me, it wasn't so much the interruptions and the orchestration, it was Wallace trafficking in stupid lies like the fine people hoax. What serious moderator would even ask about that?

The "fine people" hoax is the centerpiece of Biden's campaign.

That tells you what kind of moderator makes that an issue, while also demanding Trump disavow Proud Boys and then quickly shutting the discussion down when Trump then demands Biden disavow antifa.

Thought it was quite telling how quickly Wallace wanted to end talk about antifa.

Posted by: Candy Crowley at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (bDqIh)

111 >>chimpy at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (fZhmn)

Liar.

https://tinyurl.com/y6veoso9

Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

112 98
I read Wallace interrupted PDT 35 times, Biden zero. That is
indefensible. I used to look forward to the day I'd cancel cable
(waiting until Tucker is banished), so I could defund CNN, now I want to
defund Fox more than CNN.

Posted by: EveR at September 30, 2020 12:20 PM (R0z7P)

Turncoats are always more despised than the enemy.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (KnJdm)

113 This is Trivial, but what is it about Wallace's voice that bugs the shit out of me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (vbSOj)

114 Rush. Also referring to Wallace as "The Moderator." FML.

Posted by: Dark Helmet at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (Oka5v)

115 I spread the OAN word to my family, although half knew about the channel while others did not.

OAN's got all the hawt newsbabes now. Advantage OAN.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (ZGrMX)

116 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (arJlL)

117 Tucker and a couple others could join an OAN or already established network, or could they make their own show and market it out to OAN and Newsmax and any other, maybe being paid based on viewership and ad revenue? idk ... but tech has made mass marketing easier for the upstart, I would guess. There is plenty of bandwidth available over the air even ... it should not all have to be run through YouTube to get exposure to non-DeepState narratives.

Sharyl Attkisson could team up? ... Maria B and a few others?

Posted by: illiniwek at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (Cus5s)

118 My left of center wife who hates Trump, "The moderator seems to favor Biden."

Posted by: Tommy V at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (GCivW)

119 and if you didn't notice, Biden exited the debate with a very confused policy platform...I think the ace community, maybe all of conservative world, is a bit too worried about these things.

But biden said these things, policy wise...

1. he's going to kill rich people loop holes for taxes. Wow. lost wall street.
2. he's not for the green new deal, just tearing down a million buildings to put up new ones that will be 5% more efficient.
3. forget defund the cops, man, he's going to give them $300 million...although he doesn't believe cops should ever use violence.
4. I don't know if I will or will not pack the court.
5. Biden's going to shut down the economy to protect us from Covid.
6. Biden doesn't know which one of his kids is alive and taking bribes.
7. Those republican cities, Tulsa and Ft. Worth, are the ones causing all the riots.

just relax, biden failed bigly. but he didn't poop himself on stage, so he gets a gentleman's C.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (4RcDR)

120 I've caught a few of Kilmeade's radio show at times where he has Chrissy on for a segment. Brian practically gives him a tongue bath. Not surprised at all the Kilmeade deleted his criticism. He knows where he is in the pecking order at Fox.

Posted by: swingin' for the downs at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (t+7Up)

121 we have no idea what Biden's positions are on a whole host of issues since he indicated last night that many of his positions don't match with what is on his website.
Posted by: SMOD

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Some of them, like the GND, changed once or twice per sentence last night.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (kA3Cp)

122 (fZhmn)

One of the apes who didn't get the brain implant from the Monolith I see. We know what happened to them

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (dw/If)

123 This is Trivial, but what is it about Wallace's voice that bugs the shit out of me.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (vbSOj)

He's a smug, elitist, condescending piece of shit, maybe?

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (vf0Uk)

124 Phux Snuze is dead to me. Has benn for at least a decade.

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (w7U/e)

125 >>what is it about Wallace's voice that bugs the shit out of me.

He doesn't spit and he doesn't swallow.

He just holds the jism in his mouth, for hours.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (DeRTH)

126 -
--
First, RBG succumbed. Now,

Helen Reddy dead at 78.

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM

-----------------

How's Billie Jean King been feeling?

Posted by: irright at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (SchQD)

127 121 My left of center wife who hates Trump, "The moderator seems to favor Biden."
Posted by: Tommy V at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (GCivW)

=========

Turning Trump sympathetic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (UWqZJ)

128 The "fine people" hoax is the centerpiece of Biden's campaign.

---> but trump carpet bombed Biden in response. The super predator response was devastating.

Posted by: official redcheckmark at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (4RcDR)

129 Corrupt scumbag Joe Biden called the President of the United States a racist, a liar and a clown and told him to shut up. It's easy to use the entire Nat/Sec Apparatus to wiretap, frame and overthrow somebody you hold in such contempt, isn't it, Joe?

No wonder the President was feisty. You'd be pissed too if you had to spend the evening with Chris Wallace and Joe Biden--especially after seeing Gen. Flynn prosecuted by a judge, yet another special un-American Police State rule just for Donald Trump. And then you have to go debate the swinish yet senile jackleg grifter who participated in framing both you and Gen. Flynn.

Bill Barr wants it both ways. He claims prosecutors were malicious, yet will not charge them with malicious prosecutions. Or even fire them. Or even discipline them. What the hell, Bill? You can't protect your precious DOJ by finessing a Police State coup, Big Boy.

Thus far, there have been exactly three Deep State prosecutions:

* Obama/Clinton/Castro lawyer Greg Craig was given some Flynn-like charges as a way to prove the even-handedness of the Mueller Fraud. Craig agreed to a Kabuki Court-show because they couldn't very well charge the Podestas. So they gave Craig a leftist D.C. Acquittin' Jury and It Was Like It Never Even Happened(tm).

* Life-long FBI Agent and Senate Security Chief James Wolfe leaked the FISA Warrant for Senator BurrWarner, and was charged with jaywalking. The sweetheart plea was conditional on not ratting out the crooked senators who participated in the Coup.

* FBI lawyer and Coup-plotting seditionist Kevin Clinesmith, who forged documents at the behest of Andrew Weissman for the FISA Court, in order to hide Carter Page's history as a CIA mole. Otherwise, the FISA renewal would have been rejected. He also got an overdue book fine. It looks like he was also given a plea deal, not to sing, but to silence.

That's it. Now Comey will appear before the Senate, who will either protect him or try to throw him--and him alone--under the bus. Here's the thing that AG Barr doesn't or won't grasp: if the Obama/Biden/Clinton Crime Family are allowed to escape with impunity, they will have to keep committing more crimes to cover up the previous crimes, a permanent escalation of sedition, as we have seen. Now, they're even burning down and wrecking their own cities and assaulting Americans with their Klantifa Brownshirts.

Worse, should they re-assume power with no accountability for their Coup, that would institutionalize an American Police State forever.

And that's the day the Revolution would really start.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (Ndje9)

130 Paul Ryan strikes again.

How do guys like him end up in positions of power yet when it counted like defeating Biden in a VP debate he curls up and dies.

Posted by: Decaf at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (nL4fk)

131 I thought Trump gave fantastic answers to the climate change/fires question and also the mail in ballot question.

Posted by: MAGA (I got rabies for Trump) at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (Exm/C)

132 One critique I heard this morning was that Biden spent most of his time looking into the camera, speaking "to the people" where Trump didn't.

I don't think that matters, but it likely connected with the LIV's out there.

OOOH!!!! JOE IS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO ME!!!! HE CARES!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (vf0Uk)

133 Biden kept looking down at something all night. He looked frail and spaced out most of the time.. If Wallace hadn't been there to save him he would have probably face planted

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (Zmnko)

134 I haven't watched Fox in over a year. Deleted the shortcut from my computers and phone too. Fuck them.

Posted by: Xipe Totec-MAGAfauna at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (o2MD2)

135 I'll bet Wallace would characterize his questions as ones that "Mainstream Americans" would have asked. Mainstream Americans in Media Land are defined as those whose political beliefs are somewhere between Mitt Romney's and AOC's.

Posted by: Gref at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (AMIL/)

136 The point lost on many is that we have no idea what Biden's positions are on a whole host of issues since he indicated last night that many of his positions don't match with what is on his website.

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

Comrade, believe me, Biden will be more flexible AFTER the election when he listens to the "people"!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (2C38g)

137 108 First, RBG succumbed. Now,
Helen Reddy dead at 78.
Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

good, I got sick of he feminist bullshit 30 years ago. And i'm not in the mood to be nice today.

this is the only song I would play in her honor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (Kpl3J)

138 114 >>chimpy at September 30, 2020 12:18 PM (fZhmn)

Liar.

https://tinyurl.com/y6veoso9
Posted by: JackStraw at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (ZLI7S)

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Heh.

Nice.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (RU4sa)

139 OOOH!!!! JOE IS SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO ME!!!! HE CARES!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:24 PM (vf0Uk)

With his creepy dead black doll eyes

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (emxxF)

140 116
This is Trivial, but what is it about Wallace's voice that bugs the shit out of me.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (vbSOj)

Pedosmile/lisp.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (KnJdm)

141 My left of center wife who hates Trump, "The moderator seems to favor Biden."
Posted by: Tommy V at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM (GCivW)

Get control of your scene, man.......

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (vf0Uk)

142 I wanted to choke that little shit. I'm so glad I just watched the feed looking at the back of his balding spray-painted head.

And, that's as good as it gets as far as a "moderator".

Posted by: clutch cargo at September 30, 2020 12:25 PM (8B6Ng)

143 Joey Bidet - that tired old man who wants to be President. while lawyers dwell on small details. It was the end of the innocence.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (dw/If)

144
The climate change question and follow up bullshit about "science" really, really pissed me off.
Posted by: Jordan61

===========

That one, too! Just forwarding left wing talking points.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (x/D2W)

145 How do guys like him end up in positions of power yet when it counted like defeating Biden in a VP debate he curls up and dies.+++
Obeying the power brokers gets you into positions of power.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (LGXGf)

146 It'll be interesting to see what, if anything, Gutfeld, Waters, TuCa, etc. say about the debate. I suspect they've already been told to "toe the line" or seek employment elsewhere.

Waters and Gutfeld on The 5 typically don't pull punches, but I bet they do today. Perino will back up Wallace because of course she will.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (3H9h1)

147 Odd. Helen Reddy and Mac Davis both died today. Both were 78.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Random Quote Generator at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (xPJvm)

148 Ha ha. Hillary's still free you guys. Trump did nothing to her. You guys are suckers.

Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (sX1BW)

149 Biden looked like he had spent a couple hours in a rock tumbler prior to the debate.

Posted by: Bosk at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (SWbVS)

150 Helen Reddy dead at 78.
Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)
*********
Helen was REDDY to go

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (1Dmt5)

151 I've told the horde about OANN before. When I want news outside of AOSHQ I turn them on. You can subscribe directly if you've been proactive and cut the cable cord or satellite TV subscription. (which I keep meaning to do, but I've not even bought a firestick or roku)

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (Aashi)

152 Ha ha. Hillary's still free you guys. Trump did nothing to her. You guys are suckers.
Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (sX1BW)

This....is true.

We got boofed on that one.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (vf0Uk)

153 Lots of trolls today

Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (emxxF)

154
Well, I'll repost this old comment I made about Fox news, because it seemed to resonate with Ace, at least:

"Fox News is a curious case. Their product is shit. It has always been shit. Even in context of the rest of our execrable cable news media, it's of noticeably lower quality.

Their people are so low-grade, that I'm surprised they can finish complete sentences between Crossfit sessions and appointments with the hair stylist. It's like the cable news version of Balls' Models from Zoolander.

But they've been #1 for quite awhile, on the strength of precisely one strategy: being the only right-of-center news outlet in the United States.

Rupert Murdoch rightly perceived that he could serve up the very thinnest of gruel - a thoughtless, cheap, trashy product - and make a gazillion dollars by serving a yuuuuge and utterly ignored mass-market.

And they are knifing that golden goose right in the neck. It's bewildering."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (eXmcp)

155 "We NEED TO MOVE ON from Fox."

Never watched it anyway. No TV for over 15 years.

I do glance at foxnews website, giving it the same 15 seconds per day that I give NYT, WaPo, CNN, etc. If you need unabashed Trump boosterism, American Greatness has had that beat covered for over four years. It's a good site, even with the obvious bias.

Posted by: gp, CTO, Jukt Micronics at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (qpX6U)

156 Shame PDT doesn't have a GOP chairman that can run interference for him, instead of Romney's niece. After her disastrous performance in 2018, Ronna McDaniel should have been removed, but I think PDT kept her in an attempt to keep Mittens happy. If she was worthwhile, she would have demanded the Debate Commission Republican members give PDT at least one unbiased hack.

Posted by: EveR at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (R0z7P)

157 moved on from fox a very long time ago except for the occasional tucker or gutfeld show....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (CqHIp)

158 Mom had Faux News on as I got me coffee this morn.

Lead into a Democrat spokesweasel? Faux saying the Debate was a mess because of TRUMP's interruptions.

Then a Dem saying that Biden won the debate and looked Presidential... with no pushback.

Needless to say, I walked out of the room.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (NgKpN)

159 Watching Fox is like the definition of Insanity.

Posted by: tubal at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (bCLt0)

160 150 Odd. Helen Reddy and Mac Davis both died today. Both were 78.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Random Quote Generator at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (xPJvm)

---

My dad turned 78 two weeks ago.

Thank God he's still healthy and has all his faculties.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (RU4sa)

161 91
For me, it wasn't so much the interruptions and the orchestration, it
was Wallace trafficking in stupid lies like the fine people hoax. What
serious moderator would even ask about that?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at September 30, 2020 12:17 PM (x/D2W)

The climate change question and follow up bullshit about "science" really, really pissed me off.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30
Agreed. Wallace brought every hoax that has been debunked including the tax return situation and the military comments as well as the ones mentioned above( and the covid stuff too) and let Biden claim things that were true had been debunked like the Moscow 3.5 million and calling the military stupid.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (sd8p8)

162 Waters and Gutfeld on The 5 typically don't pull punches, but I bet they do today.

I doubt Gutfeld will, at least. And I enjoy how much he and Watters have bonded over beating up Juan Williams.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (ZGrMX)

163 156 Lots of trolls today
Posted by: AlaBAMA at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (emxxF)

A sign they are losing

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (Zmnko)

164 Ha ha. Hillary's still free you guys. Trump did nothing to her. You guys are suckers.
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If not obvious, that was a sarcastic reply to MUMR.

Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (sX1BW)

165 No Fox news in our house, not since O'Reilly left. It's OAN now.

Posted by: IC at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (a0IVu)

166 He's a smug, elitist, condescending piece of shit, maybe?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM

You left out smarmy.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (ejd/p)

167 I get my news from here and...

Here.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (RU4sa)

168 Off topic: I know there are a lot of 29-year olds on here. My... dad is trying to decide between Starkey and Miracle-Ear for an expensive hearing aid. Any experience here with either of them?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (2lndx)

169
I've told the horde about OANN before. When I want news outside of AOSHQ I turn them on. You can subscribe directly if you've been proactive and cut the cable cord or satellite TV subscription. (which I keep meaning to do, but I've not even bought a firestick or roku)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (Aashi)

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Yup, and Joe Mannix recently hooked me up with their "KlowdTV" app for the Roku - it comes with the OAN subscription, and includes a couple other things, AWE, InfoWars, and something else I forget at the moment.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (eXmcp)

170 The one good thing about the debate was how badly Wallace looked. Reaction from several of my family members was horror, because they thought because he was on Fox that he was conservative.

Good point from last night's ONT:

[]>>They're softly weeping at MSNBC. I really don't think they know what happened.

That's important. Real important. It can never be said enough, "they" and "us" don't even perceive reality the same. Their goals are not our goals. Their strategies and reactions are not normal or even sane to us. And that makes it damn hard to compete in much of anything against them - because to us, their moves are totally random.

But their reactions are a tell. And they're not clever enough - or more importantly, disciplined enough - to fake a reaction very well. If those are real, salty MSNBC tears - that's an important data-point. They perceive a loss. Good enough for me.
Posted by: English Lycanthrope at September 29, 2020 11:03 PM

As we keep seeing, the MSM keeps laying out the same traps for Trump, and when he goes in a completely different direction, they are devastated and horrified. They likely had their talking points all prepared and then -- the Trump blitz.

So 2020.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (bDqIh)

171 I didn't watch the debate, but I find none of this surprising.

Honestly, no one should find any of this surprising. The Media has been who they are for decades now, and this is how they behave--especially with someone they despise to an all new level, like Trump.

The next debate (if there is one) will not be any better; there's a good chance it will be far worse.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (E+OcO)

172 If not obvious, that was a sarcastic reply to MUMR.
Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (sX1BW)

I got it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (Kpl3J)

173 Don't have cable, haven't watched Fox for years.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (oVJmc)

174 Biden looks terrible. It isn't a wonder the Dems try to keep him in the basement.

Posted by: N.L. Urker at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (lgiXo)

175 Just saw on FB that Rocco Prestia of Tower of Power has died. Wondered who the third was going to be. RIP Rocco.

Posted by: skywch at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (Y/Ps0)

176 Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:26 PM (sX1BW)

Buddy, a multibillionaire running a pedophile network was murdered in federal lockdown via some wetwork murder.

We have bigger fish to fry, even though Hillary absolutely should be on the griddle.

Posted by: trev006 at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (8UxvC)

177 >Helen Reddy and Mac Davis both died today.

I hope none of you got hooked on him

Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (iTXRQ)

178 In some form or another.

Soon.

Posted by: National Divorce at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (RFMGT)

179 Key point to hammer is that Biden disavowed his own Platform last night, on a number of issues.

We have no idea WHAT his platform is.

His 'I am the Democrat Party' line should really resonate with his base.

Posted by: Romeo13 at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (NgKpN)

180 Agreed. Wallace brought every hoax that has been debunked including the tax return situation and the military comments as well as the ones mentioned above( and the covid stuff too) and let Biden claim things that were true had been debunked like the Moscow 3.5 million and calling the military stupid.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:28 PM (sd8p

Didn't Stephanaopolouousous do something similar last time- changed the topic midstream from a strong republican talking point (economy?) to some weird birth control claim.

Par for the course.

Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (Ed8Zd)

181 108 First, RBG succumbed. Now,
Helen Reddy dead at 78.

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

________

Ironically, RBG was singing "I am woman, hear me roast" in hell that same day.

Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (lwLKS)

182 Mac Davis both died today.

I hope none of you got hooked on him
Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (iTXRQ)

I recall he had a hard time being humble.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Random Quote Generator at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (xPJvm)

183 You can subscribe directly if you've been proactive and cut the cable cord or satellite TV subscription. (which I keep meaning to do, but I've not even bought a firestick or roku)

I haven't cut the cord, and I'm starting to feel smug about it as streaming devolves into a disorganized shitshow of having to pay $5 or $10 a month to 25 different places to get the same things I get from DirecTV all-in-one.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (ZGrMX)

184 AtC for Moderator.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (oVJmc)

185 This is Trivial, but what is it about Wallace's voice that bugs the shit out of me.
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:22 PM (vbSOj)

He's a smug, elitist, condescending piece of shit, maybe?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at September 30, 2020 12:23 PM

Well there is that too.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (vbSOj)

186 For as long as I can remember the MSM has been tipping the scales for the Ds. And for as along as I can remember, Republicans go along with it.

I don't know what the answer is. But Trump agreeing to Wallace as a moderator sure as fuck isn't it. After that interview earlier this summer, this should have been abundantly clear and still he agreed to it.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (22mNy)

187 How are you guys watching OAN? On Roku?

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (Ez6QX)

188 95 I don't think there will be another debate.

Biden said why last night. PEOPLE ARE ALREADY VOTING.

Why bother......
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe!

people voting before the election, people voting after the election, none of which is constitutional, but muh norms and count every vote.

Posted by: x at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (nFwvY)

189 Porn stars are emailing Chris Wallace today for tips on combatting gag reflex.

Posted by: Azathoth at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (yJGZr)

190 I think Biden is going to listen to Pelosi and others and refuse to do any other debates. He proved he can stand up for extended periods; that's all he had to do.

One thing Trump said "We cauight them, on tape". If he's really got recordings, he damn sure better find some way to release them before the election. He's got the power to declassify anything he wants to, he can do it. And I don't care if it messes up a prosecution - if he loses there will be NO prosecutions anyways.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (Kpl3J)

191 Everyone is my office were saying how awful it was, like children etc etc. I said I loved it - presidential politics should be an all out brawl. Folks were shocked and are now giving me weird side eye looks..lol..good, now they will leave me alone.

Posted by: IC at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (a0IVu)

192 The NY Post reports that

Verizon has been quietly scrambling to unload HuffPost as it grapples with continued losses at the left-leaning news and culture website, The Post has learned. The telecom giant -- which acquired the site formerly known as the Huffington Post as part of its $4.4 billion purchase of AOL in 2015 -- has approached multiple digital-media companies during the past few months in a bid to get the property off its books as losses accelerate due to the coronavirus, according to sources close to the situation.

With all those continued losses, the HuffPo crew might want to take some classes in coding.

Posted by: GnuBreed at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (Z4rgH)

193 190 How are you guys watching OAN? On Roku?
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (Ez6QX)

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That's one of the ways, yes.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (RU4sa)

194 It should be Wallace or us Not bs'ing, just tell it to them strait. I am sure he will find a great job at CNN or MSNBC. This guy is a freaking joke really. I had to kindly tell a relative a few weeks ago that Wallace was no fan of Trump. It was pretty shocking she did not know that. She is conservative but i guess she overlooked that part.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (03Hn+)

195 >His 'I am the Democrat Party' line should really resonate with his base.

If I were on Trump's media team, I would beat Joe over the head with 'I am my party' mercilessly, while showing scenes of the riots, fires, slums, deadbeats, etc

Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (iTXRQ)

196 Kilmeade tweeted, "Why is @JoeBiden allowed to interrupt? @realDonaldTrump is not."

--

This was such a troublesome tweet that Kilmeade felt it prudent to delete it? You are flipping kidding me.

We've all known for some time now that Fox is no longer 'fair and balanced.' It's been overtaken slowly by the left. We've seen it unfold as they've added more and more and more leftist talking heads. We've watched the metamorphosis plainly before our eyes. With very few exceptions now, it's a done deal. Granted, I haven't watched them in years and that is the main reason. I saw it coming. They don't deserve my respect and haven't for a long while. I will not be a viewer of a network I don't respect. Or believe. They're in the same sump hole as the rest.

Posted by: Lady in Black, for real at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (O+I8R)

197 My... dad is trying to decide between Starkey and Miracle-Ear for an expensive hearing aid. Any experience here with either of them?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair

Costco's Kirkland brand is also a serious contender.

Posted by: Joe Mama at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (w7U/e)

198 Chris asshole Wallace needs to be fired NOW!

Posted by: Myshiba at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (e59CX)

199
I haven't cut the cord, and I'm starting to feel smug about it as streaming devolves into a disorganized shitshow of having to pay $5 or $10 a month to 25 different places to get the same things I get from DirecTV all-in-one.

Broadcast is perfect for me. One-time cost.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (oVJmc)

200 Posted this earlier: watch Biden's reaction to Trump nailing him on the Jan 5th, 2017 WH meeting:

https://tinyurl.com/y5yahvkk

Guilty and feeble

Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (bDqIh)

201 It's funny because every single person here knew this is what Wallace was going to do last night. And almost none of us even bother to watch or listen to Fox any more, and haven't for years.

But "Oh, you Wingers get all your info from Faux Newz!!!"

Posted by: Sharkman at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (K2hsm)

202 Off topic: I know there are a lot of 29-year olds on here. My... dad is trying to decide between Starkey and Miracle-Ear for an expensive hearing aid. Any experience here with either of them?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (2lndx)

Huh? What?

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (9RVa4)

203
Here's the thing that AG Barr doesn't or won't grasp: if the Obama/Biden/Clinton Crime Family are allowed to escape with impunity, they will have to keep committing more crimes to cover up the previous crimes, a permanent escalation of sedition, as we have seen. Now, they're even burning down and wrecking their own cities and assaulting Americans with their Klantifa Brownshirts.

.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives

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I suspect barr doesn't gaf or maybe even takes evil glee at the thought of trump imploding through his bombast and bullying ( let's face it, that's our boy).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (x/D2W)

204 Everyone is my office were saying how awful it was, like children etc etc. I said I loved it - presidential politics should be an all out brawl. Folks were shocked and are now giving me weird side eye looks..lol..good, now they will leave me alone.
Posted by: IC at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (a0IVu)

LOL, literally just had the same conversation with a coworker. Who is a big fan of Ben Shapiro, by the way. Listens to all his podcasts.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (Ez6QX)

205 Who hasn't moved on from Fox? They're the main reason I cut the cable cord five years ago. Insufferable... and that was before the Murdoch toads / Paul Ryan took over.

Posted by: Lawrence L at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (Uu7xZ)

206 Since I cut cable about 3 years ago, how does one get OAN?

Posted by: dantesed at September 30, 2020 12:34 PM (88xKn)

207 Was it a shit show? Yes of course. But don't fool yourself into thinking it hadn't been like this for many decades. The format was the leftists, the dem and the demo mouthpiece hurl unfounded lies and insults at the Republican while he sits there and meekly takes it. Trump stopped that.

You wanted Trump to have catchy comebacks and sick burns at the ready to pwn the dems. You know who were great at that? the consultant class Rick Wilson, French, the fake conservatives Goldburg, Kristol. How many of the gotcha lines we happily bandied about here 5-10 years ago first came forth from those penis dewed lips? Trump doesn't engage in those unserious games. Real fighters don't trash talk when its time for action.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 30, 2020 12:34 PM (THvFK)

208 208 Who hasn't moved on from Fox? They're the main reason I cut the cable cord five years ago. Insufferable... and that was before the Murdoch toads / Paul Ryan took over.

I only watch Tucker and Laura and the Saturday Gutfeld show...

Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2020 12:34 PM (Zmnko)

209 Last night was really hard to watch, I had to turn it to mute several times. But if anything it just pissed Trump voters off more. The unfairness of the debate, and the unfairness of everything going on in general, the 24/7 gaslighting, it's really just too much to take. People are really angry and can't wait to vote.

Posted by: spypeach at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (Up/Jb)

210 152
Biden looked like he had spent a couple hours in a rock tumbler prior to the debate.

Posted by: Bosk at September 30, 2020 12:27 PM (SWbVS)
Yes? all sheeny- shiny?
(i didn't watch)

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (DJFLF)

211 Are we boycotting Fox now?

Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (+AASJ)

212 OAN app on tablet.

Posted by: creeper at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (XxJt1)

213 I'm old enough to remember that CRT used to mean cathode ray tube.

Posted by: some guy out west at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (XpDOS)

214 How are you guys watching OAN? On Roku?

On Apple TV for me. They do have a Roku app, but the subscription is per box.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (2lndx)

215 This was such a troublesome tweet that Kilmeade felt it prudent to delete it? You are flipping kidding me."

obviously he was ordered to delete it, or else face a permanent and immediate "vacation" to parts unknown.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (Kpl3J)

216 @209 dantessed-I have no TV but I watch OAN on Youtube.

Posted by: JROD at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (0jZnq)

217 I heard Kilmeade this Am on the way to work. He was critical of Wally as he should be. I am guessing his bosses told him to STFU.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (vbSOj)

218 If you're allegedly objective, why would you even repeat lies, or at best partisan obfuscation such as the $750 in taxes or the raise the Critical Race Theory without any context or knowledge if it?

Answer: you are either a complete Pursed Lip Buffoon or a Partisan Hack pursuing malicious intent.

Posted by: Marcus T at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (VpIIl)

219
---> well, this is the problem. Fox News has ratings but just the pillow guy supporting them.
Posted by: official redcheckmark at September 30, 2020 12:12 PM (4RcDR)

And USAA

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (QGf75)

220 209 Since I cut cable about 3 years ago, how does one get OAN?
Posted by: dantesed at September 30, 2020 12:34 PM (88xKn)

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Where to watch:

https://www.oann.com/wheretowatch/

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (RU4sa)

221 63 Chrissy Wallace has a new nickname with me - that asshole Wallace.

Anyway time to do stuff
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (dw/If)

In the ONT last night, the new moniker was FCW.

it wasn't Fox Chris Wallace, either.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (sy5kK)

222
Apropos of nothing-

Biden looks so creepy now that he'd make an excellent Grey (alien) with a little change in skin tone and maybe a new body borrowed from the movies.

Someone with mad photoshop skilz...make it so!

Posted by: naturalfake at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (dWwl8)

223 On Apple TV for me. They do have a Roku app, but the subscription is per box.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:35 PM (2lndx)
++++++++++
No it isn't. Their streaming platform (stupidly called "KlowdTV") has a login and password like anything else. I have it on all of my Rokus and I know I can pull at least two streams simultaneously. I don't know what the limit is, but it is greater than 1.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (hYcqw)

224 "The climate change question and follow up bullshit about "science" really, really pissed me off." posted by Jordan

yeah, they frame Trump (and real scientists) as climate deniers, if they deny it is Only American CO2 that is the cause of all "global warming" ... which they claim is also causing floods and earthquakes and pandemics and .... every damn thing

... all caused by only American Industry (China/India ... go ahead and keep belching out raw soot, dump all your sewage into the rivers/ocean). Since more CO2 has helped food production and helped green up arid areas ... the lie is even more pernicious than just an odious environmental lie.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (Cus5s)

225 Every Trump question was posed as though the Democrat position was the norm and Trump had to "defend" his different position.

Every Biden question was designed to tee up the Democrat talking point.

Basically it was "Mr. Trump why are you a bad person" and "Mr. Biden, why is Mr. Trump a bad person."

And whenever Trump cut in to defend himself against the 2-on-1 attack, Wallace would jump to Biden's defense: "Sir, you had your turn now it's Biden's turn."

No wonder everyone is complaining about everyone talking over everyone. Biden would start his lying, Trump would cut in with "hey no that's BS" and Wallace would cut in over Trump to give Biden the chance to continue lying. Trump isn't the type to back down from that, so yeah, it was chaotic and loud and jumbled. Because it was two on one and the "one" was man enough not to take it lying down.

There was one moment where Trump was told "you have one minute to reply" and then Wallace flipped over to Biden and the two of them had like a ten minute conversation about the best way to implement the Democrat agenda.

It was maddening.

Posted by: Matthew Martin at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (ZR7kf)

226 W: Do you favor packing the court

B: I won't answer that question

W: Ok, lets move on

Posted by: MAGA (I got rabies for Trump) at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (Exm/C)

227 Huh? What?

I SAID, WHERE'S BEN ROETHLISBERGER?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (2lndx)

228 Just saw three photos on Facebook that sure looked like Joe was wired up.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (RkYsP)

229 Is everybody here getting it finally?

STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS

If you have to watch Tucker, watch him later on Youtube or something. Don't tune in any longer.

FOR ANYTHING.

Is it sinking in? Stop. Watching. Fox. News.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (KZzsI)

230 But their reactions are a tell. And they're not clever enough - or more
importantly, disciplined enough - to fake a reaction very well. If those
are real, salty MSNBC tears - that's an important data-point. They
perceive a loss. Good enough for me.

Posted by: English Lycanthrope at September 29, 2020 11:03 PM

I find comfort in the fact that all they have to ding Trump on are debunked lies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (KnJdm)

231 And USAA
Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (QGf75)

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One of the few negatives for USAA.

Fortunately, the pros outnumber that.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (RU4sa)

232 205 Off topic: I know there are a lot of 29-year olds on here. My... dad is trying to decide between Starkey and Miracle-Ear for an expensive hearing aid. Any experience here with either of them?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (2lndx)

Huh? What?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (9RVa4)

he says he's been looking at the Stars for years.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (Kpl3J)

233 >For as long as I can remember the MSM has been tipping the scales for the Ds. And for as along as I can remember, Republicans go along with it.

I don't know what the answer is.

I do
1) stage/produce the debate themselves
2) have it at some small school (small in terms of nat'l profile)
3) hire persons unknown to the public, but well-versed in parliamentary procedure, as moderators
4) follow traditional debate format: no 'negotiating' between the two sides. Debate just as you learned it in HS.

Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (iTXRQ)

234 And USAA

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (QGf75)

the pillow guy is way more conservative.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (03Hn+)

235 One of the few negatives for USAA.

Fortunately, the pros outnumber that.
Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (RU4sa)

The NFL support is a big negative.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (Ez6QX)

236 I haven't watched Fox News in over a decade. I do read the Fox News web site. It still seems balanced and points out the Left's lies and reports on positive economic news.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (2DOZq)

237 I don't know what the limit is, but it is greater than 1.

Sorry, I meant per box type. So one subscription for all Rokus you own, or all Apple TVs you own, but a different subscription for each.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (2lndx)

238 Sounds like Wallace was instructed by Fox to prop Joe up.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

239
I haven't cut the cord, and I'm starting to feel smug about it as streaming devolves into a disorganized shitshow of having to pay $5 or $10 a month to 25 different places to get the same things I get from DirecTV all-in-one.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:31 PM (ZGrMX)

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You just have to look at the deal, really. I switched to three apps that provide the basic cable, local networks, and OAN for a third the price of the DTV subscription.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (eXmcp)

240 I watch only OAN because I want Chanel Rion to touch me in my no no square!

Posted by: Two Weeks From Two Weeks From Oh Fuck It at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (GXBRY)

241 Kilmeade took the ticket a long time ago. He likes his 7-8 figure income, not going to ruffle and feathers from his corporate overseers.

Posted by: Ed Teach, Maritime Reclamation Specialist at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (LSDnv)

242

The only people that lost last night were the voters.

Wallace was demonic.
Biden was creepy and wobbly.
Trump was a fighter as usual.

The voters got a rock for Halloween.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (rjE57)

243 Joe, your tie has stripes.
No it doesn't!
Uh, its being recorded on tape.
No it isn't!
And we can see it now.
That was debunked!

Wallace - ok, lets move on.

Posted by: Menack at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (buTO7)

244 I'd like a Bailey covered in Mott's applesauce.

Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (+AASJ)

245 BEN had a great comment on the last thread.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (sd8p8)

246 @225 naturalfake-Biden has what bodybuilders call "dick skin". Biden literally looks like a penis.

Posted by: JROD at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (0jZnq)

247 I've told the horde about OANN before. When I want news outside of AOSHQ I turn them on. You can subscribe directly if you've been proactive and cut the cable cord or satellite TV subscription. (which I keep meaning to do, but I've not even bought a firestick or roku)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at September 30, 2020

*
*

My mechanic of almost 20 years has recently put a small flat-screen TV in the office/customer waiting room. OANN is what's usually on when I've been there.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (Ejm1K)

248 Basically it was "Mr. Trump why are you a bad person" and "Mr. Biden, why is Mr. Trump a bad person."

these are the questions that Trump has fielded from the White House Press Corpse every day of his Presidency.

May they all DIAAF/
(second A is for Antifa)

Posted by: kallisto at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (DJFLF)

249 One of the few negatives for USAA.

Fortunately, the pros outnumber that.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (RU4sa)

they have pulled some Lefty crap over the last few years and it has been documented. The service is not as good and i can promise you that. It is still better than most insurance, I will admit that. But no way is it like it used to be.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (03Hn+)

250 Everyone is mad at PDT for agreeing to a debate w Wallace as moderator. How about focusing anger on the real culprit: the idiot GOPe members of the Debate Commission and the GOP Chairwoman. If PDT complained, he would be portrayed as afraid of Biden. But, if the Commission members had done their job or Romney's niece hers, the battle would be theirs. Why must PDT do everything without help?

Posted by: EveR at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (R0z7P)

251 The NFL support is a big negative.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (Ez6QX)

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*shrugs*

Changing banks, especially one that has been more than fair, especially while I was deployed, is a non-starter.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (RU4sa)

252 I read Ace and Breitbart.The only thing I watch is Michelle Malkin on Youtube.Everything else is crap.

Posted by: drerbrerard at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (AlYYP)

253 Sounds like Wallace was instructed by Fox to prop Joe up.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (oVJmc)

He is a registered Democrat. That is all you need to know.

No doubt he thinks he is untouchable too.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (rjE57)

254 I keep wondering why all these people who believe
that white people are inherently racist don't quit so a brown person can
have their spot.
Kinda like Yale saying they're systematically racist, but not THAT racist.

Posted by: squid_hunt at September 30, 2020 12:07 PM (S5OQe)

One large segment, like Wallace, don't consider themselves white because they are part of a certain minority group.

Posted by: WOPR - Free Kyle Rittenhouse at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (J70i0)

255 I'm sick of moderators in these debates. Nobody cares what they think or have to say, but they ALWAYS behave as if they are actual star of the show. And they ALWAYS favor the democrat/progressive position. Wallace last night was the worst since Crowley and I hope his career craters like hers did.

Posted by: Mozam at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (uToj1)

256 they have pulled some Lefty crap over the last few years and it has been documented. The service is not as good and i can promise you that. It is still better than most insurance, I will admit that. But no way is it like it used to be.
Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (03Hn+)

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I have yet to have an issue with them.

The VA, on the other hand...

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (RU4sa)

257 His 'I am the Democrat Party' line should really resonate with his base.

If I were on Trump's media team, I would beat Joe over the head with 'I am my party' mercilessly, while showing scenes of the riots, fires, slums, deadbeats, etc
Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (iTXRQ)

Like taking a deposition for good admissions to use in summary judgment, one goal of this debate was for Trump to get sound bites to pummel with Biden in ads. He definitely succeeded.

Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (Ed8Zd)

258 Having a bit of fun with lefties on social media right now, although I'm tiring of it swiftly.

They say "Trump refused to condemn white supremacists"

I show them the transcript.

They shove the goalposts thirty yards and say "he didn't condemn them strongly enough"

I thank them for admitting they were wrong and congratulate them on moving toward the truth, then point out how Biden refused to condemn the looting, burning, rioting, and murdering of Antifa.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

259 Changing banks, especially one that has been more than fair, especially while I was deployed, is a non-starter.
Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (RU4sa)

Fair enough. We switched to Navy Federal a few years ago and we're happy with them.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (Ez6QX)

260 that asshole Wallace.

*******

That cunty diseased cumbucket of soylent dicks works for me

Posted by: Two Weeks From Two Weeks From Oh Fuck It at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (GXBRY)

261

I bet there is a lot of tension at Fox today. Lucky most are still working from home.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (rjE57)

262 new nood

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (ETtXa)

263 The good news is it doesn't sound like Pissy earned his book advance. They seem very disappointed in the way that Trump was able to Napolitano him all night long.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (y5zzc)

264 haven't cut the cord, and I'm starting to feel smug about it as streaming devolves into a disorganized shitshow of having to pay $5 or $10 a month to 25 different places to get the same things I get from DirecTV all-in-one.
Posted by: Ian S. at Septe

That's nice for you. We cut out cable years ago and hardly ever stream anything. Our lives greatly improved by not spending hours every week watching crap and being insulted.

Go 2 weeks without your TV and you should find out how liberating it is. You may never go back.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (qk31/)

265 Fair enough. We switched to Navy Federal a few years ago and we're happy with them.
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (Ez6QX)

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Whatever floats your boat.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (RU4sa)

266 Wallace's question about "why ain't you never called Portland, Mr. 'I am the DNC'?" was pretty brutal. Biden had no answer.

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who saw that.

Posted by: Jewells45 at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (nxdel)

267 Sorry, I meant per box type. So one subscription for all Rokus you own, or all Apple TVs you own, but a different subscription for each.
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (2lndx)
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Depends on how you sign up. I am working on a post for Ace if he wants it on cord-cutting. You can sign up from your box (Roku, Apple TV, Android TV, whatever) and it is bound to your platform in that case because that's how payment flow works. The alternative - which I *strongly* recommend - is to never sign up for anything from your set-top box. Sign up at their website on a PC. Then you get a username and password from the *service* and it is not bound to an intermediary. Then, when you load the app, you just authenticate to the actual subscription from the service provider. The benefit of this is portability, because the authentication and service management is handled at the provider instead of the platform (the smart TV system). Not all apps lack portability when signup is done from the platform, but many do. Handling sign-up outside of the smart TV platform is a superior option because this usually permits portability (though I don't have an Apple TV and couldn't say for sure - this has been true for me across Roku and Android TV (I prefer Roku)).

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (hYcqw)

268 Biden at train stop in Alliance. Yammering on and lying beyond belief.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (ASNqn)

269
Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (bDqIh)

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That was me, the resident MSNBC watcher. I couldn't believe my eyes. I expected them to be yelling and ranting about the evil Trump stomping and bullying Biden, but instead they were deflated. I think Biden didn't come through for them.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (x/D2W)

270 For as long as I can remember the MSM has been tipping the scales for the Ds. And for as along as I can remember, Republicans go along with it.

I don't know what the answer is.

I mean, the answer isn't hard to work out, but I don't know how to get the GOP to do it. They seem to like it, like Kevin Bacon being spanked in Animal House

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (KZzsI)

271 nood

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (ETtXa)

272 "It's funny because every single person here knew this is what Wallace was going to do last night."

it seems Chrissy exceeded expectations ... he was deliberate on helping Joe's talking points along, cutting off Trump's argument.

idk how much Trump "interrupted" versus Biden, but cutting off the opponent as he is lying is the way this format works ... Biden interrupting Ryan trying to get facts out was Joe's standard method. Wallace took up that tactic against Trump, since Biden is too frail to pull it off.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (Cus5s)

273 We need to move on? I think a whole lot of people care about the decades of corruption in the Biden family.

Posted by: wth at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (v0R5T)

274 237 And USAA

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (QGf75)

the pillow guy is way more conservative.
Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (03Hn

I've had them far longer than the pillow guy.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (QGf75)

275 Huh? What?
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at September 30, 2020 12:33 PM (9RVa4)

he says he's been looking at the Stars for years.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM

The sheriff is what?!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (ejd/p)

276 @253 EveR-Agreed. For that matter someone from the GOP should have interrupted Wallace on air tapping him on the shoulder saying excuse me WTF?

Posted by: JROD at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (0jZnq)

277 I show them the transcript.

They shove the goalposts thirty yards and say "he didn't condemn them strongly enough"

I thank them for admitting they were wrong and congratulate them on moving toward the truth, then point out how Biden refused to condemn the looting, burning, rioting, and murdering of Antifa.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:41 PM (KZzsI)

Last night, lefty idiots were screeching that Trump telling the Proud Boys to Stand back and stand by was actually him telling them to attack (He said stand back and by, not stand down!) and that he clearly is the leader of this white supremisist org. (Ignoring there are a lot of blacks and other minorities in Proud Boys).

Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (Ed8Zd)

278 (ETtXa)

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Lying about a nood is just dumb.

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (RU4sa)

279 Mark Dice had a good video this morning of everyone on XiNN clutching their pearls about how uncouth the debate was. Jake Tapeworm was nearly in tears.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (ZGrMX)

280 Why must PDT do everything without help?

Posted by: EveR at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (R0z7P)

Because that's who we are!

Posted by: RNC Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (2C38g)

281 Who hasn't moved on from Fox? They're the main reason I cut the cable cord five years ago. Insufferable... and that was before the Murdoch toads / Paul Ryan took over.

I only watch Tucker and Laura and the Saturday Gutfeld show...
Posted by: It's me donna at September 30, 2020 12:34 PM (Zmnko)

I cut the cable in 2017, and only reason I had it was so my mom could watch Fox news.

The only reason she watched Fox news was familiar faces, she had no idea what they were talking about.

Until one day I noticed she had been watching the Dog Channel for 3 solid days, and didn't know. Except, she was more entertained.

Posted by: clutch cargo at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (8B6Ng)

282 (ETtXa)

^
Troll.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (oVJmc)

283 Also interesting is that futures were down last night and this morning anda then all of a sudden, back into positive territory in a big way. Who in their right mind would chance this recovery on a Biden Presidency?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (sd8p8)

284 Who keeps calling fake Noods. Hawaiian guy?

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (vbSOj)

285 A measly half billion and you can come over to the Sefton Network.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

You jest, but you do the news better than anyone else on the InnerWebz.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (K2hsm)

286 I have yet to have an issue with them.

The VA, on the other hand...
Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (RU4sa)

Just the opposite for my family but I agree that it's an individuals choice based on service and treatment they've received.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (2DOZq)

287 >>I meant per box type.

What. Like....Puffy?

Posted by: Hillary Clinton at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (DeRTH)

288

Gotta make the false nood more believable. This isn't long enough to justify a new thread unless thre's breaking news, and none of the commenters have mentioned anything breaking (someone will usually mention it in comments before Ace can jot out a post on it).

Also, fuck you. This is pathetic.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (eXmcp)

289 Luntz: For first time ever, undecideds in debate focus group decided not to vote at all

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (3aI0K)

290 Prof calls for all cops to be strangled, complains about doxxing and death threats afterward

Midwestern State University philosophy professor Nathan Jun wrote on a Facebook thread "I want the entire world to burn until the last cop is strangled with the intestines of the last capitalist, who is strangled in turn with the intestines of the last politician."

"In the past 24 hours alone I have received hundreds of death threats (most of them virulently anti-Semitic in nature) by phone, email, text, and private message and my home has been vandalized for the fifth time since June. The harassment has been so intense that I have been compelled to relocate to a hotel for my own safety. . . .

"It is only because we are living in the midst of a phony, ginned-up hysteria (known by scholars as 'The Antifa Scare') that the local right has decided to go after me. As a person who doesn't own a gun or have criminal record-and who belongs to a member of a historically persecuted group that is greatly underrepresented in Wichita Falls-I am very clearly an easy target for them."

https://bit.ly/3n6PYwI

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Poor baby!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (+y/Ru)

291 Neil Cavuto, yesterday, said that there was agreement among all parties that the moderator would not be a
fact checker.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (d4edd)

292 Is everybody here getting it finally?

STOP WATCHING FOX NEWS

If you have to watch Tucker, watch him later on Youtube or something. Don't tune in any longer.

FOR ANYTHING.

Is it sinking in? Stop. Watching. Fox. News.

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THIS ^^^. Of course, everyone has to arrive at that decision on their own. As I said above, I cannot and will not be a viewer to a news network I have no respect for, or for one I simply do not have any trust in.

It's the same feeling about Drudge, who I haven't visited in countless years now -- but used to visit multiple times a day. Lost my respect. Doesn't deserve me as a viewer. Do not trust.

It's hard to let go and turn your back on these kinds of repositories you used to have faith in; I get that. But they're shells of what they used to be. And they don't deserve me. Or you. Or us.

Posted by: Lady in Black, for real at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (O+I8R)

293 Fake Nood caller is asshole

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (vbSOj)

294 >Wallace last night was the worst since Crowley and I hope his career craters like hers did.

nah, he's the son of media royalty
his name is on the Protected rolls and he will come to no harm

Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (iTXRQ)

295 Wallace's question about "why ain't you never called Portland, Mr. 'I am the DNC'?" was pretty brutal. Biden had no answer.

I was beginning to wonder if I was the only one who saw that.
Posted by: Jewells45 at September 30, 2020 12:42 PM (nxdel)

Wallace's one attempt to be balanced.

Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (Ed8Zd)

296 Mac Davis both died today.

I hope none of you got hooked on him
Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:30 PM (iTXRQ)

I recall he had a hard time being humble.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Random Quote Generator at September 30, 2020

*
*

"I thought happiness was Lubbock, Texas in my rear view mirror. . . ."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (Ejm1K)

297 >>You jest, but you do the news better than anyone else on the InnerWebz.

The guy works on his Birthday.

That's dedication.

Posted by: garrett at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (DeRTH)

298 "Ha ha. Hillary's still free you guys. Trump did nothing to her. You guys are suckers.

Posted by: SH"

Technically correct . But she is imprisoned and tormented and tortured every minute of every day and will go to her grave with this reality:

Hillary Clinton will never be president of the United States. Thanks to Trump.

Not as good as prison but a close second.

Posted by: Ripley at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (MxEKc)

299 God, everyone flees when someone yells nood. Whats up with that?

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (ETtXa)

300 Neil Cavuto, yesterday, said that there was agreement among all parties that the moderator would not be a

fact checker.

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So no agreement on not being an asshole?

Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (sX1BW)

301 Biden promising to kill the energy industry is sure to play well with blue collar voters.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (vbSOj)

302 I'll assume there was a nood that Ace posted before it was ready and pulled back down. It has happened before. If it is a troll, then screw him.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (hYcqw)

303 Hammering about the proud boys being a white supremacy group.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (ASNqn)

304 The odd thing about FOX News is it seems they run it by wishing someone like Chris Wallace was a money maker while trying to marginalize a ratings juggernaut like Tucker. Can you imagine sitting in on a management meeting where everyone is complaining Tucker Carlson attracts eyeballs? Do they have something against making money?

Posted by: lowandslow at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (4thlk)

305 For first time ever, undecideds in debate focus group decided not to vote at all
Posted by: SMOD

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That's actually good news. If you don't understand what this election is about, stay home and let the adults take care of it.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (kA3Cp)

306 The woman from "U.S.A Today" who is the moderator for the next debate probably won't do much better.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Does she have Big Boobs ?

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 12:45 PM (arJlL)

307
Fake Nood caller is asshole
Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (vbSOj)

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You can always take comfort in the fact that he'll die alone and unloved.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (eXmcp)

308 God, everyone flees when someone yells nood. Whats up with that?
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Its called good manners.

Posted by: SH at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (sX1BW)

309 The alternative - which I strongly recommend - is to never sign up for anything from your set-top box. Sign up at their website on a PC.

I looked for a sign-up on the OAN web site, but couldn't (and still can't) find one. Where is it?

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (2lndx)

310 (ETtXa)

Pretty sure that Spicoli guy thinks you're a dick, too.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (ejd/p)

311 >>> FOR ANYTHING.

Is it sinking in? Stop. Watching. Fox. News.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:37 PM (KZzsI)

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Stopped watching Fox back when O'Reilly was doing his "the war in Iraq is lost" routine. Stopped going to Foxnews website over a year ago when their stories read like they were written by AP reporters. Turns out; many times they were.

Posted by: swingin' for the downs at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (t+7Up)

312 The number of times Wallace jumped in to help Biden get back on track was unreal. He did it to SOUND like he was making Joe answer a question, but in reality he was signaling to him that he was wandering off the reservation.

Pissy rescued him at least half a dozen times on those *alone*. And they are counting them as "interruptions" when in reality he was functioning as an extra earpiece.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (y5zzc)

313 The majority of the focus group remained undecided after the lengthy, chaotic debate. Many put a greater onus on Biden to deliver strong answers than Trump - excusing the president's behavior as "typical" or just Trump being Trump.

Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (3aI0K)

314 Wallace's question about "why ain't you never called Portland, Mr. 'I am the DNC'?" was pretty brutal. Biden had no answer.

Is that the one where Biden mumbled about not being in office? Yeah that was not a good exchange for him. Very few of them were, though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (KZzsI)

315 The term is ASSHOE people, not ASSHOLES

get it right, asshoes!

Posted by: Two Weeks From Two Weeks From Oh Fuck It at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (GXBRY)

316 Trump asked Wallace to specifically name a white supremicist group and Wallace couldn't/wouldn't.

I think Trump wanted him to say KKK so Trump could say he'd has named them a terrorist org, what else do you want?

Wallace probably saw that coming and didn't want to give Trump the point.

Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (Ed8Zd)

317 In Fall of 2014, Fahrenkopf was a Fellow at the Harvard Institute of Politics at the Harvard Kennedy School.[4]

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (1Dmt5)

318 Hammering about the proud boys being a white supremacy group.
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Does anyone not a dyed-in-the-wool leftist actually give a fuck about "white supremacists?"

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (vg8iE)

319 they have pulled some Lefty crap over the last few
years and it has been documented. The service is not as good and i can
promise you that. It is still better than most insurance, I will admit
that. But no way is it like it used to be.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (03Hn+)

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I have yet to have an issue with them.

The VA, on the other hand...

Posted by: SMH at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (RU4sa)

I am not saying they are bad. i have had a relationship with them for decades. I think the service is not what it used to be but I am glad they have worked out well for you. I wouldn't even think of going with normal civilian insurance as i have seen what that can lead to. But USSA has changed over the years.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (03Hn+)

320 The odd thing about FOX News is it seems they run it by wishing someone like Chris Wallace was a money maker while trying to marginalize a ratings juggernaut like Tucker. Can you imagine sitting in on a management meeting where everyone is complaining Tucker Carlson attracts eyeballs? Do they have something against making money?

Someone mentioned that Fox is courting a buyer.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (oVJmc)

321 Stuart Varney on FBN was pretty feckless this morning. Had nothing to say about Chris Wallace's moderation, suggested that both sides behavior made it difficult to watch. Liz Peek, one of his guests, sounded like fake Nurse Ratched last night.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (xWtao)

322 How is Newsmax? Trying to come up with alternatives to Fox News for Mom that will be easy for her to access on her TV (she has a Roku).

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (Ez6QX)

323 >get it right, asshoes!
Posted by: Two Weeks From Two Weeks From

who you caw asshoe?
you no caw anybody asshoe!
YOU asshoe! You go now!

Posted by: DB- just DB. at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (iTXRQ)

324
Joe is slow on the uptake. Trump won and continues to enjoy the loyalty of his supporters with a very clear message of "I am most emphatically NOT the Republican Party." That's the winning message. Almost everyone despises the DC ruling class at this point.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (eXmcp)

325 You can always take comfort in the fact that he'll die alone and unloved.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM

Now be fair...his cats will probably love him. Well...parts of him. Briefly. Until the neighbors start complaining about the strange smell.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (ejd/p)

326 For me, it wasn't so much the interruptions and the orchestration, it was Wallace trafficking in stupid lies like the fine people hoax. What serious moderator would even ask about that?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia's phone

Wallace should be fired for telling that lie. It's absolutely false and has been debunked a billion times, but he says it in a debate? Fuck you, Chris.

Fuck, I hate these people.

Posted by: Sharkman at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (K2hsm)

327 I looked for a sign-up on the OAN web site, but couldn't (and still can't) find one. Where is it?
Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (2lndx)
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OAN doesn't have a streaming service just for themselves. The parent company (Herring, IIRC) has a service called "KlowdTV" that they inked a deal with to stream (there are a lot of nuances with this due to how cable carriage contracts work, and usually a network cannot directly offer paid streaming and one of the ways around it is to make a cutout company that is technically a carrier, and then cut a deal with the "carrier" for your network). "KlowdTV" is the service that carries OAN and AWE (the other Herring channel), along with some others like Blaze and some others.

To sign up, you sign up for "KlowdTV" and not OAN directly.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (hYcqw)

328 A measly half billion and you can come over to the Sefton Network.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

The Sefton Network doesn't predict the weather, they make it happen.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (ZGrMX)

329 I love J.J. I start every day with the morning report and although the weekend COBs are terrific, it is just not same. But c'mon, is every day his birthday?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:49 PM (sd8p8)

330
That Wallace interview Trump did a month or so ago, many criticized him for doing it.

It was the pre-season game, and last night it was a regular season game. The one that counts in the standings.

Trump tested Wallace in the pre-season game, and figured out his game brilliantly last night.

Biden did all he could by not falling down and passing out.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at September 30, 2020 12:49 PM (sy5kK)

331 The woman from "U.S.A Today" who is the moderator for the next debate probably won't do much better.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke

Does she have Big Boobs ?

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Remember MeAgain's moderator days? When she wore false eyelashes and evening cocktail attire? Yeah, tell me the moderators aren't out to make it all about them...

Anybody who's already known to be a stupid troll that calls a nood should have the banhammer. Just my humble opine.

Posted by: Lady in Black, for real at September 30, 2020 12:49 PM (O+I8R)

332 The CEO of OAN's name is Robert "Red" Herring.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 30, 2020 12:49 PM (22mNy)

333 The majority of the focus group remained undecided after the lengthy, chaotic debate.

Yeah I don't think the debate moved anyone in any direction. Neither candidate really did a good job promoting themselves or what they want, their vision, or what they will do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (KZzsI)

334 How is Newsmax? Trying to come up with alternatives to Fox News for Mom that will be easy for her to access on her TV (she has a Roku).
Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (Ez6QX)

I'd suggest OAN, if you can get it for her.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (2JVJo)

335 I love J.J. I start every day with the morning report and although the weekend COBs are terrific, it is just not same. But c'mon, is every day his birthday?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:49 PM (sd8p

+++++++++
If you really loved JJ, you wouldn't question his birthdays.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (hYcqw)

336 Also, fuck you. This is pathetic.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (eXmcp)

Eh it's not a big deal. It's funny in a tired lazy way.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (y5zzc)

337 Neil Cavuto, yesterday, said that there was agreement among all parties that the moderator would not be a
fact checker.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (d4edd)

But comrade, speaking the "truth" is NOT fact-checking!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (2C38g)

338 237 And USAA

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:36 PM (QGf75)

the pillow guy is way more conservative.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:38 PM (03Hn

I've had them far longer than the pillow guy.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:43 PM (QGf75)

moi aussi

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (03Hn+)

339 Does anyone not a dyed-in-the-wool leftist actually give a fuck about "white supremacists?"
Posted by: bicentennialguy at

Well apparently DHS does. Oh, you said dyed-in-the-wool leftist. Nevermind.

Posted by: Beartooth at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (qk31/)

340 False n00d should be punishable by Judge Napolitano / Andrew Gillum spitroasting until dead.

Posted by: banana Dream at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (THvFK)

341 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (+y/Ru)

You can tell he's a big Lefty by the lack of self awareness. And the lies .

Posted by: Weaning is hard at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (2DOZq)

342 @330 OAN is on Pluto (completely free streaming TV provider) I believe.

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (xWtao)

343
IIRC, KlowdTV was devised as a means of delivering OAN to troops overseas (free of charge), and then they made a pay version for the domestic market.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (eXmcp)

344 The majority of the focus group remained undecided after the lengthy, chaotic debate.
=====

I reject the premise that anyone is undecided. Always have.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (vg8iE)

345 Stopped watching Fox back when O'Reilly was doing his "the war in Iraq is lost" routine. Stopped going to Foxnews website over a year ago when their stories read like they were written by AP reporters. Turns out; many times they were.
Posted by: swingin' for the downs at September 30, 2020 12:46 PM (t+7Up)

That's around when I bailed Fox.

After cutting the cable, I've only gotten more sane and saved a lot of money. If there's something notable that happens on Fox, it's on YT in a matter of hours.

Posted by: clutch cargo at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (8B6Ng)

346 The service is not as good and i can promise you that. It is still better than most insurance, I will admit that. But no way is it like it used to be.
Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (03Hn+)

Is that from when they opened membership up to "other ranks"?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (QGf75)

347 Let me start by saying that I just finished putting up a 12x4 TRUMP banner on my hill that I designed and bought from VistaPrint for $150.

PDJT was driving me crazy last night, filling air with "it was the best, every one says so, this is great" instead of actually ARTICULATING ALL THE GREAT THINGS HE HAS DONE.

Letting the fine people hoax go unaddressed is just political malpractice. THAT IS A LIE, SO YOUR WHOLE CAMPAIGN IS BASED ON A LIE was the proper response.

Posted by: motionview at September 30, 2020 12:51 PM (pYQR/)

348 Wallace should be fired for telling that lie. It's absolutely false and has been debunked a billion times, but he says it in a debate? Fuck you, Chris.

Fuck, I hate these people.
Posted by: Sharkman at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (K2hsm)

The DNC provided the questions.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 12:51 PM (y5zzc)

349 nood should be like yelling fire in a theater. lols

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:51 PM (ETtXa)

350 345 @330 OAN is on Pluto (completely free streaming TV provider) I believe.
Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (xWtao)

I just added Pluto to her Roku channels the other day (trying to get rid of Comcast once and for all). Thanks!

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 30, 2020 12:51 PM (Ez6QX)

351 Fuck Chris Wallace, his momma and shithead daddy.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (B3ey4)

352 OAN is on Pluto (completely free streaming TV provider) I believe.

Pluto is fantastic. I believe they have Newsmax too.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (ZGrMX)

353 False n00d should be punishable by Judge Napolitano / Andrew Gillum spitroasting until dead.

Falsenooders wouldn't consider that a punishment.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (ppBhU)

354 I keep wondering why all these people who believe
that white people are inherently racist don't quit so a brown person can have their spot.

Kinda like Yale saying they're systematically racist, but not THAT racist.

Dinesh D'Souza had a great exchange with an earnest lefty at Amherst you might like to see.

https://youtu.be/RSOMdF3xAdo

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (sG4Hj)

355 First, RBG succumbed. Now,
Helen Reddy dead at 78.
Posted by: SMOD at September 30, 2020 12:21 PM (3aI0K)

And Mac Davis.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

And Jeffrey Hunter !

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (arJlL)

356 To sign up, you sign up for "KlowdTV" and not OAN directly.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:48 PM (hYcqw)

it says free until the end of 2020

then min $4.99/mo

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (rjE57)

357 Letting the fine people hoax go unaddressed is just political malpractice. THAT IS A LIE, SO YOUR WHOLE CAMPAIGN IS BASED ON A LIE was the proper response.
Posted by: motionview at September 30, 2020 12:51 PM (pYQR/)

Trump is a master of mass communication - one of the best we've ever seen. If you really think he doesn't get it, you haven't been paying attention for the last 5 years.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (y5zzc)

358 still working on my minestrone soup

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (ETtXa)

359 OAN is on Pluto (completely free streaming TV provider) I believe.

*******

Pluto? Pfffffttt, thats no longer a planet you know.

Posted by: Two Weeks From Two Weeks From Oh Fuck It at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (GXBRY)

360 I watched FNC last night and I really think you could read the look on everyone's face that Chris Wallace was a disaster.
You know Martha and Brett were thinking that they should have been chosen to moderate the debate.

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (+YYKs)

361 Stop feeding the pedophile.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (oVJmc)

362 BUT TUCKER

he's been bought off just like the rest of them

Posted by: REDACTED at September 30, 2020 12:53 PM (O+AcM)

363 The people who have been saying that Trump energizes the opposition must chalk it up to luck that democrat voters are filled with ennui right now.

These people, Trump was never going to reach, but he did drive a wedge between the radical and the establishment. They walk away unsatisfied, rather than putting on their armor.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2020 12:53 PM (LxTcq)

364 258
I'm sick of moderators in these debates. Nobody cares what they think or
have to say, but they ALWAYS behave as if they are actual star of the
show. And they ALWAYS favor the democrat/progressive position. Wallace
last night was the worst since Crowley and I hope his career craters
like hers did.

Posted by: Mozam at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (uToj1)

These events are not debates. They are live Big Media interviews of two people.

Posted by: Gref at September 30, 2020 12:53 PM (AMIL/)

365 it says free until the end of 2020

then min $4.99/mo
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (rjE57)
+++++++++++
Yes, it's a paid channel. The per-channel cost is higher when you go a la carte, but I don't watch most channels and so it is a significant net savings for me. For others, mileage will vary.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at September 30, 2020 12:53 PM (hYcqw)

366 "It is only because we are living in the midst of a phony, ginned-up hysteria (known by scholars as 'The Antifa Scare') that the local right has decided to go after me. As a person who doesn't own a gun or have criminal record-and who belongs to a member of a historically persecuted group that is greatly underrepresented in Wichita Falls-I am very clearly an easy target for them."

https://bit.ly/3n6PYwI
-
Poor baby!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 30, 2020 12:44 PM (+y/Ru)

Ha - he tried that shit in Wichita Falls, Texas???? And he thought he wouldn't get blow back?

His academic friends are writing about how it all is happening because all the Evangelical Christians in that backward city hate Jews.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:53 PM (Kpl3J)

367 Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:47 PM (Ed8Zd)

Well observed. So much flying back and forth I forgot 3/4ths of it.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (y5zzc)

368
I think raimondo and MUMR may be our only remaining real, unpaid trolls. Sad! It's like they're an endangered species.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (eXmcp)

369 Also, every time Slow Joe lied about a prior position (manifesto, fracking, GND) PDJT should have responded with Don't you remember your own position Joe? Are you lying or confused?

Posted by: motionview at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (pYQR/)

370 And Jeffrey Hunter !
Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (arJlL)

Martin Pawley is dead?

Posted by: dantesed at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (88xKn)

371

Anyone verify the wire and mic on Biden? The clips and images are everywhere.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (rjE57)

372 they have pulled some Lefty crap over the last few
years and it has been documented. The service is not as good and i can
promise you that. It is still better than most insurance, I will admit
that. But no way is it like it used to be.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (03Hn+)p
I'm seeing this too, Quint. USAA has changed hugely since I joined thirty-five years ago. It started with a big push for more members. Then I noticed a seriously paternalistic attitude. I'm not ready to switch yet but they're making me nervous.

Posted by: creeper at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (XxJt1)

373 I feel like Newsmax is closer to my way of thinking than Fox is. Our local talk radio station dumped ABC/AP for Fox last year, not much improvement I can see. Only thing this station has to offer is Beck/Limbaugh/Levin. Notice I do not include Hannity though he does come on after Limbaugh and before Levin. I usually listen to Christian radio at that time, as I do at most other hours.

Posted by: Eromero at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (XhWtx)

374 The worst part for me was Fox Fag asking Trump to tell his supporters not to take to the streets and get violent and not reciprocating the question to Biden.

Posted by: drerbrerard at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (AlYYP)

375 >>still working on my minestrone soup

For you?

Stick with the Bouillabaisse.

Posted by: Geroge Costanza at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (DeRTH)

376 I'd like to see actual questioners that hail from places like Liberty University or Hillsdale. Nobody in "journalism" deserves to moderate a presidential debate.

Posted by: Lady in Black, for real at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (O+I8R)

377 Going to go and try and have a life outside of this. It feels like I have been here since last night.Don;t do anything crazy til I can get back and join in.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (sd8p8)

378 Jim Crow laws were bad.But Jim Snow laws are good.Because White People are bad.

Posted by: Chris Wallace at September 30, 2020 12:55 PM (P/Z8C)

379 371
I think raimondo and MUMR may be our only remaining real, unpaid trolls. Sad! It's like they're an endangered species.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (eXmcp)

Pretty sure they are. High mortality rate and low fertility.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at September 30, 2020 12:55 PM (1ISKN)

380 OAN is on Pluto (completely free streaming TV provider) I believe.

Pluto is fantastic. I believe they have Newsmax too.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (ZGrMX)
**********
No it isn't streaming does the previous evening shows

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:55 PM (1Dmt5)

381 Now Rasmussen today has Biden leading Trump by eight points after the last two weeks had Trump +1 and Biden +1. Thus is why I don't pay much attention to them.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (xPl2J)

382 I think raimondo and MUMR may be our only remaining real, unpaid trolls. Sad! It's like they're an endangered species.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM

I'm a little disappointed in the quality of our trolls lately. Are we getting the JV team, or has Soros cut the payroll?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (ejd/p)

383 Stop feeding the pedophile.

--

Unless it's to the sharks?

Posted by: Lady in Black, for real at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (O+I8R)

384 Has Trump tweeted anything about Wallace yet?

Posted by: Justsayin' at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (Fs5vw)

385 My left of center wife who hates Trump, "The moderator seems to favor Biden."
Posted by: Tommy V

Give her a hug from Teh Horde.

And take her out to dinner.

And buy her a new watch.

And a new dress.

And.. a BRAND NEW CAR !

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (arJlL)

386 Huoite Supremacy ... we're concerned about hate groups!

The one that killed 20 people in a few months? No, not that one.
The one that killed ?7? cops? No not that one.
The one that did a billion dollars in property damage? No.

What year did huoite supremacy do that much damage? 1920? Explain the relevance to those of us who weren't around back then.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (LxTcq)

387

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

Chris had a tough night. Two on one was not surprising, but fun. Many important points made, like throwing Bernie, AOC PLUS 3, and the rest, to the wolves! Radical Left is dumping Sleepy Joe. Zero Democrat enthusiasm, WEAK Leadership!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (rjE57)

388 247 I'd like a Bailey covered in Mott's applesauce.
Posted by: f'd at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (+AASJ)

Can I join?

Posted by: browndog at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (BgMrQ)

389 Kilmeade's stuff is still up. Lots of criticism of Biden's performance and Wallace, too.

Posted by: LASue at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (Ed8Zd)

390 OAN is on Pluto (completely free streaming TV provider) I believe.

Pluto is fantastic. I believe they have Newsmax too.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (ZGrMX)

Pluto is very cool. Gotta endure ads, but otherwise they do not edit anything. Saw fifteen minutes of Striptease once on one of their movie channels. Boobehs and turrible acting abounded.

Plus Rifftrax and MST 24/7.

did not know they added OAN. I'll check it out.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Random Quote Generator at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (xPJvm)

391 BUTT TUCKER

he's been bought off just like the rest of them
********
Fixed It For Ya

Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:57 PM (1Dmt5)

392 I think false nooders should just be self flagellated. lols. Gots to be careful with super sharp knives. Vegetables wait.

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:57 PM (ETtXa)

393 I half expected DJT to call into Fox n Fiends this morning to trash Wallace just to see the hosts turn purple holding their breath.

Posted by: BluesFish at September 30, 2020 12:57 PM (WQZ1O)

394 And Jeffrey Hunter !
Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM (arJlL)

Martin Pawley is dead?
Posted by: dantesed at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (88xKn)
------
Timothy Leary's dead.

Or so I hear.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat at September 30, 2020 12:57 PM (YWy5z)

395 378 >>still working on my minestrone soup

For you?

Stick with the Bouillabaisse.
Posted by: Geroge Costanza at September 30, 2020 12:54 PM (DeRTH)
===

I don't consider soup a meal.

Posted by: Kenny Bania at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (Alp4m)

396 Simon Rosenberg, a former senior consultant for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said Biden's campaign should seek rule changes for the next two debates, on Oct. 15 and Oct. 22. Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Kamala Harris square off on Oct. 7.

"Of course, Biden and Harris should keep debating. But they should work to make sure Trump can't repeat his performance tonight," Rosenberg said. "Moderators should have the ability to cut off his mic and split screens should be limited. Let them talk to the American people without the other facial expressions and interruptions registering."

https://politi.co/3n8Z0to

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This is clear evidence that Biden won the debate. But Biden prefers Ryan style debates in which he can lie and bully his opponent but his opponent can't fight back.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (+y/Ru)

397 Helen Reddy is mort?

And did I hear you say He was a-meetin' you here today, to take you to His mansion in the sky?

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (dfRN6)

398 The service is not as good and i can promise you
that. It is still better than most insurance, I will admit that. But no
way is it like it used to be.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:40 PM (03Hn+)

Is that from when they opened membership up to "other ranks"?

Posted by: Fox2! at September 30, 2020 12:50 PM (QGf75)

I am not sure about that. But no doubt USAA and some others advertise now like never before. They want anyone and everyone but I don't know what rules they follow these days if any. I do know that USAA pulled its advertising from Hannity a few years ago.

I also know the service used to be better imo. My opinion is based on personal experiences with the company well over thirty years. I have even heard from people in the car business that have a lot of problems with them. I still think they beat State Farm or Geico. But I only give people here the truth as I see it. I have never BS'ed anyone, not one time. I say it used to be better. Maybe I need to yell at a cloud.

Posted by: Quint at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (03Hn+)

399 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
·
3h
Chris had a tough night. Two on one was not surprising, but fun. Many important points made, like throwing Bernie, AOC PLUS 3, and the rest, to the wolves! Radical Left is dumping Sleepy Joe. Zero Democrat enthusiasm, WEAK Leadership!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (LxTcq)

400 It has happened before. If it is a troll, then screw him.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (

It's the HonestCloud troll from a few years back. The shit's been fucking around since yesterday.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (QPbAP)

401 Wallace was easy the worst debate moderator of all time.

And...Trump wasted an incredible opportunity to put Biden away. It's almost like he did zero debate prep and just banked on Biden drooling if he kept interrupting him.

Would it have killed Trump to have memorized a couple good sound bytes?

Posted by: Blago at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (gkdnV)

402 "Mr. President, don't you agree that racism is bad and white people are
evil? Will you condemn these white supremacists who refuse to admit that
white people are inherently evil?"

Posted by: Chris Wallace at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (P/Z8C)

403 248 BEN had a great comment on the last thread.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at September 30, 2020 12:39 PM (sd8p

_________

That was epic Lizzy.

Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (C3cWG)

404 real NOOD

Posted by: patti o'table, oxidizing slowly at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (wtnJT)

405 My impression of the debate immediately afterward was that it was just a lot of people trying to talk over each other (and, interestingly, when that happened I could only make out what Biden was saying). I can't imagine it did much to convince anyone of anything. Biden showed, passing that "low bar", but also faltered visibly at times.

The question "Who Won?" (as idiotic as that is, even normally) doesn't even seem applicable. It's like an auto race where the only two cars spend the whole race crashing into each other, without even going around the track once.

Now, reading this, it reminds me that the only real "Won/Lost" call goes to Wallace, who yes, completely disgraced himself and authored that train wreck.

Nobody should be too surprised. FoxNews ambushed Trump in the first debate in 2016 (in the Primary). It backfired spectacularly, costing Megan Kelly her career, and exposing a number of Republicans who eagerly promised to support whoever the nominee was - and then DIDN'T. FoxNews has been establishment GOP (and therefore anti-Trump) since Day 1.

Posted by: Optimizer at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (hOOi9)

406 Soup has to have lots of chunks and salt. No puree for me. later.

Posted by: Amibo at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (ETtXa)

407 The outrageous "fine people" questions was a golden opportunity to not just debunk that slander - challenge Wallace and all networks to play the tape, tell the American people about a specific "news" lie they can check themselves - but to go off on what should have been a prepared jihad about the racist-authoritarian onslaught he is confronting, including with his EO to ban "racist indoctrination" (hello, Don, this is the wording to use) in govt. agencies/using taxpayer $.

At the end of which he should look at Biden and (thanks to Biden's bizarre statement earlier) and state "and the main organization dividing the country, spreading hate and racism, and funding violence and crime, BLM, links directly to 'your party' for donations on their website. Will you denounce the violent racism of BLM, Joe?".

(a "fighter" would do this sort of thing - it's not even risky, it's right in line with public sentiment)

Posted by: rhomboid at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (OTzUX)

408 Timothy Leary's dead.

Or so I hear.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, Task Group Cluebat

No, no, no, no, he's outside ...

Posted by: Adriane the Pearl Clutching Critic ... at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (LPnfS)

409 There's a certain word never written except at one appropriate time. _there's a special barrel out behind the woodshed.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (d4edd)

410 I think Rasmussen's daily results depend on whether responders feel like lying that day about who they will vote for.

Posted by: creeper at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (XxJt1)

411 Biden didn't even look at Trump.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (LxTcq)

412 Trump is a master of mass communication - one of the best we've ever seen. If you really think he doesn't get it, you haven't been paying attention for the last 5 years.

Trump is a master persuader - but last night was a C- or D for him. The 5-8% of the populace that switched from Bush to Obama to Trump were not persuaded last night. He came across as the work bully who talks over them at meetings.

Posted by: motionview at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (pYQR/)

413 Apparently Biden arrived in Alliance, OH today to little or no attendees and to a bunch of Trump supporters.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (vg8iE)

414 nood for realz

Posted by: patti o'table, oxidizing slowly at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (wtnJT)

415 404 Wallace was easy the worst debate moderator of all time.

And...Trump wasted an incredible opportunity to put Biden away. It's almost like he did zero debate prep and just banked on Biden drooling if he kept interrupting him.

Would it have killed Trump to have memorized a couple good sound bytes?
Posted by: Blago at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM

-----

I did more in 47 months than you did in 47 years.

FO

Posted by: MAGA (I got rabies for Trump) at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (Exm/C)

416 https://youtu.be/RSOMdF3xAdo
Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2020 12:52 PM

That was a spanking.

Posted by: Minnfidel at September 30, 2020 12:59 PM (vbSOj)

417 Does anyone not a dyed-in-the-wool leftist actually give a fuck about "white supremacists?"

At this date and time, nope. There was a time when they were a real, national issue. That time passed many decades ago.

Posted by: bonhomme at September 30, 2020 01:00 PM (sG4Hj)

418 384 Now Rasmussen today has Biden leading Trump by eight points after the last two weeks had Trump +1 and Biden +1. Thus is why I don't pay much attention to them.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (xPl2J)

___

Yeah. When their approval numbers go from 52 to 46 in 2 days and national polls swing 10 points in one week, you really have to question their usefulness.

Posted by: Asshoes at September 30, 2020 01:00 PM (22mNy)

419 Tucker is great and I have changed a lot of people's minds to our side by having them watch him. I really learn a lot from him.

What the hell do y'all want him to do?

Posted by: redridinghood at September 30, 2020 01:00 PM (+YYKs)

420 WEAK Leadership!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 30, 2020 12:56 PM (rjE57)

Hey LASue look at what word Trump capitalized at the end of his tweet. Everyone has been primed, they have slept (which is when the mind processes everything), and now the morning after comes the hammer.

Posted by: ... at September 30, 2020 01:00 PM (y5zzc)

421 https://www.pluto.tv/live-tv/oan-encore

Posted by: Chairman LMAO at September 30, 2020 01:00 PM (xWtao)

422 Perino will back up Wallace because of course she will.

-------------

Like a real Bushie that she is.

Posted by: Decaf at September 30, 2020 01:01 PM (nL4fk)

423 Timothy Leary's dead.

No, no, no no, he's outside.

Looking in.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 01:01 PM (oVJmc)

424 >>Simon Rosenberg, a former senior consultant for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, said Biden's campaign should seek rule changes for the next two debates, on Oct. 15 and Oct. 22. Vice President Mike Pence and Sen. Kamala Harris square off on Oct. 7.

"Of course, Biden and Harris should keep debating. But they should work to make sure Trump can't repeat his performance tonight," Rosenberg said. "Moderators should have the ability to cut off his mic and split screens should be limited. Let them talk to the American people without the other facial expressions and interruptions registering.
- - - - -

And there it is.
They can't contain Trump like every other Republican so they whine and demand a change in the rules.

That does not sound like they think Biden won.
The wouldn't need to suppress Trump's speech if they thought they had a winning message.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 30, 2020 01:02 PM (bDqIh)

425 The term is ASSHOE people, not ASSHOLES

So, the L is silent ?

Posted by: JT at September 30, 2020 01:03 PM (arJlL)

426 Posted by: chimpy at September 30, 2020 12:06 PM (fZhmn)
*******
OK Dicksucker
Posted by: Ghost Of Ruth Buzzi Ginsberg at September 30, 2020 12:08 PM (1Dmt5)

LOL! chimpy Dicksucker knows Trump is going win.

Posted by: demoncrat at September 30, 2020 01:03 PM (mVf2r)

427 I have a strong impression that Professor Jun is really most sincerely gay.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 30, 2020 01:03 PM (oVJmc)

428 399 Anonosaurus

As long as the DNC hauls in the money like they did last night, they will want to keep the debates going. One thing about the Left, they continue to donate, even if it wasn't the performance they planned to see.

Posted by: EveR at September 30, 2020 01:03 PM (R0z7P)

429 402 Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
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3h
Chris had a tough night. Two on one was not surprising, but fun. Many important points made, like throwing Bernie, AOC PLUS 3, and the rest, to the wolves! Radical Left is dumping Sleepy Joe. Zero Democrat enthusiasm, WEAK Leadership!

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 30, 2020 12:58 PM (LxTcq)

________

Biden: "I am the Democrat Party!"

Bernie: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

AOC: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

BroFo: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

Rashida Taliban: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

Zombie Jeffrey Epstein: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

George Soros: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

Zombie Joseph Stalin: "No, I am the Democrat Party!"

Posted by: ShainS at September 30, 2020 01:04 PM (Q/ZOc)

430 To sign up, you sign up for "KlowdTV" and not OAN directly.

Thanks. I just signed up (for the 2020 free channels, as a test) on both the Roku and the Apple TV, and it worked great in both; the KlowdTV app seems to be better than the dedicated OAN app.

I originally didn't sign up with Klowd because I had no idea they were the same company, and I wanted my $4.99 to go to OAN.

Posted by: Stephen Price Blair at September 30, 2020 01:09 PM (2lndx)

431 The next debate (if there is one) will not be any better; there's a good chance it will be far worse.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 30, 2020 12:29 PM (E+OcO)

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I'm in two minds about it. It could be that the other two will now try to outdo Wallace but it may be possible that one of them actually does the right thing.

Yeah, nah.

Posted by: Decaf at September 30, 2020 01:12 PM (nL4fk)

432 423 Timothy Leary's dead.

No, he's on the roof discussing cosmology with Maynard Ferguson.

Posted by: Braenyard at September 30, 2020 01:12 PM (XnG/+)

433 One thing Trump said "We cauight them, on tape". If he's really got recordings, he damn sure better find some way to release them before the election. He's got the power to declassify anything he wants to, he can do it. And I don't care if it messes up a prosecution - if he loses there will be NO prosecutions anyways.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 30, 2020 12:32 PM (Kpl3J)

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Exactly, it's all or nothing now, not later.

Posted by: Decaf at September 30, 2020 01:14 PM (nL4fk)

434 If you just want real-time streaming of OANN, it's free here:

https://ustvgo.tv/one-america-news-network/

That's where I watch it.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 30, 2020 01:16 PM (sWM8x)

435 >And [Fox News is] knifing that golden goose right in the neck. It's bewildering."--

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice

They're doing it for the same reason that Disney, Marvel Comics and Gillette did--because being a vector for leftist political indoctrination is more important to them than money. They're "down with the struggle", even as their companies sunk further in unprofitability.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at September 30, 2020 01:17 PM (FvW9c)

436 I cannot recall either candidate giving a definite answer to any of Wallace's questions. Lousy questions? Lousy question set-up? Lousy job of moderating? Lousy "debate" format and rules? Lousy candidates?

When people complain that Trump didn't follow the rules, to me that means the rules aren't written to be fair to a brash, plain-speaking, non-Deep State Made Man.

Also, Biden's handlers know Trump's character and how he deals with Media questioning. If they send Ol' Joe into a tank battle on foot, armed with a squirt gun, they are lousy handlers.

Posted by: Gref at September 30, 2020 01:22 PM (AMIL/)

437 Fox News tried to eliminate PDT in the first debate of 2016 (they even had ole blood-in-her-eyes bragging publicly that they were going to do so before the debate!) and they have never stopped.

TuCa (from what I hear or the clips I see here; I do NOT watch EVER) is the "Jane, you ignorant slut..." dude that "60 Minutes" used to give 2 minutes to, as a cover job for the rest of the hard left show.

If Fox wants to include a Democrat for "balance," they should do what the socialist networks do and hire an EX democrat (like the Dems hire EX republicans.

Someone like Reagan would be good for the Democrat, if Fox weren't a Quisling deep state, anti-Trump op. platform.

Posted by: Gilded at September 30, 2020 01:33 PM (BRkq2)

438 I know this is a far off take.

Faux News knows what their polls really say, and it is not good for Biden. So they had to put not just the thumb but the whole fat Chris Wallace reputation on the scale to help Biden.

Yeah, it is a weird take. But Wallace flushed his reputation (what was left of it) last night, and it could only be because they felt they had to.

Posted by: Loki at September 30, 2020 01:35 PM (zIn/C)

439 There are good, viable alternatives to Fox: NEWSMAX and ONE AMERICA NEWS.

Posted by: Beyond Norman Parameters at September 30, 2020 01:35 PM (btet6)

440 I moved on from FOX after the Kelly/Bauer ambush debate in 2016.

I was a huge FOX gal. Prayed for Bret's baby. Prayed for Jennifer's breast cancer cure. Certainly prayed for the amazing Catherine Herridge's liver transplant to her son...and she remains the only journalist who researches and reports. I regret none of those prayers.

I do regret thinking FOX was "fair and balanced." I am sure Tucker and a few others are fine, but I have not watched their channel in over four years. They can bite moi.

Posted by: ChristyBlinky,aging supermodel, requests daily freak outs by Dims , at September 30, 2020 01:42 PM (SK2xO)

441 The debates have long been held by heavily biased democrats. Note how the democrats/Biden are POSTURING they are Conservatives and the Republicans/Trump are the evil liberals. Amazing how often they reverse what they have done and who they are, with a long record attesting to who they are, and get away with it. As democrats have been hostile to Christianity and the Bible, Biden actually had the nerve to reference the Bible. The Bible the democrats have openly booed publicly. Hypocrisy extraordinaire. Why didn't democrats open revolutions in the streets and supported by democrats get mentioned? What of democrats insurrection and attempted coupe on a sitting President get mentioned ? FOR 4 YEARS !

Posted by: ron n. at September 30, 2020 01:43 PM (om5HK)

442 I've defended Wallace in the past, albeit not vociferously, and for that I apologize. He was awful last night. He seems to think that he's more important than either candidate.

Posted by: Thomas LaBelle at September 30, 2020 02:02 PM (MxeFh)

443 I have a small heart problem, and the debate just about killed me. I won't watch #2 and #3. That was the worst pile-on by any moderator EVER.

Posted by: Mimi Mayes at September 30, 2020 02:12 PM (8i7Ho)

444 My favorite question of the debate was when Chris looked at Joe, tilted his head back and asked "tits or face?"

Posted by: Rbastid at September 30, 2020 02:47 PM (axhr1)

445 Greg was doing a convo about the debate on that new platform he moved to (not parlor) and during these events he does always like to have some wine and speak more freely, so wonder if he took on Wallace there.

Posted by: Rbastid at September 30, 2020 02:53 PM (axhr1)

446 Wallace used the 50 year-old term "Racial Sensitivity training", no "Critical Race Theory.

CRT teaches that white people are born guilty and should hate themselves, minorities should hate white people and everybody should hate America.

It's not just evil, Hitler-esque and incorrect, it's also un- Constitutional.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at September 30, 2020 03:14 PM (Ndje9)

447 ONce the election is over, I'm sending a photo with an email to Fox News showing my cable tv cancellation.

They did this: Chris Wallace and Donna Brazile at a debate, ON FOX NEWS.

I hope Rupert Murdoch's kids and Paul Ryan get a form of COVID that morphs into Zika that morphs into Flesh-Eating Disease.

Posted by: George Will's Punchable Face at September 30, 2020 03:30 PM (6MoD2)

448 and one last cheap shot: Ainsley I hope Hannity become's ex-husband #3.

I bet their pillow talk consists of:

AE: "I'M A MOM! SOUTH CAROLINA! JESUS CHRIST!"
SH: "Buckle up Ainsley, that's just the tip of the iceberg. Huge news inbound, I've got a lot to unpack!"

Posted by: George Will's Punchable Face at September 30, 2020 03:37 PM (6MoD2)

449 Fox News folk were clearly told not to disparage Wallace's performance (Tucker tonight will let us know for sure). Bill O'Reilly is lacing into Wallace on Hannity's radio show right now and Hannity is defending Wallace at every turn. Sell-out.

Posted by: Steant1965 at September 30, 2020 04:22 PM (EYicl)

450 As I said last night, I've only been watching OANN for some time now. Can't remember the last time I watched Fox (except for TuCa, and even that's been some time ago).

Now, I don't believe for a moment that OANN is an impartial, nonpartisan news network. They're totally in the tank for Trump. But the thing is, they're pretty honest about that, and everyone who watches them knows it, too.

If I have to watch a biased news network, I'd rather watch one that isn't going to piss on my leg and tell me it's raining.
Posted by: Dr. T at September 30, 2020 12:15 PM (A1UwY)

The "unpartisan" media is a made up creation. Back when papers and magazines did the news, you had republican and democratic papers in every town.
Heck, some in the past were owned by factions of the party!

They fact checked each other to some extent, since each side had its options and the barriers to entry were fairly low.

Radio might have changed scene some, but with only a few networks TV tried from the start to spread the lie of one, unbiased media view. That spread down as the newspapers died off.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 30, 2020 04:50 PM (eoQWY)

451 I know this is a far off take.

Faux News knows what their polls really say, and it is not good for Biden. So they had to put not just the thumb but the whole fat Chris Wallace reputation on the scale to help Biden.

Yeah, it is a weird take. But Wallace flushed his reputation (what was left of it) last night, and it could only be because they felt they had to.
Posted by: Loki at September 30, 2020 01:35 PM (zIn/C)

Yes, I see this as a disaster for the myth of unbiased news and for Biden. A president should not NEED to be saved by anyone, and especially in troubled times everyone really wants the leader to be a leader.

Posted by: Oldcat at September 30, 2020 05:35 PM (eoQWY)

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Chris Wallace is a Disgrace
And Fox News May Very Well be Threatening Staffers Who Point This Fact Out