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Saturday Gardening and Puttering Thread, August 29, 2020 [KT]
The first beafsteak tomato I ever grew. 1.7 pounds. Have several more still green.Now THAT is a tomato! Let us know how it tastes. redc1c4 sent along a link to eight skillet recipes using late summer produce, from Garden and Gun. The link would not transfer, but this recipe for matchstick fried okra would. And so would this photo. Looks like a perfect use for S. Lynn's tomato. Anyway, take a look around at the recipe link. There are some good ones. And who can resist the name "Garden and Gun"?
The Minnesota State Fair was canceled. 220,000 fans sobbed. Then they added a driving tour of food vendors. 19,000 car passes (over 13 days) sold out in two hours. I can testify that the website was crashing two seconds into that time. Being the MN State Fair it was exquisitely organized with dozens of cheerful helpers. The tour took about 1.5 hours. We wrapped up most of it for later, as one didn't have time to eat it all. These are cheese curds, so fresh they squeak.
It was odd seeing the fairgrounds without a seat of people. But the food helps. I had an extra car ticket. I could have sold it for $150 on eBay, but my boss knew a family that didn't get one, so I let them have it for cost. This is a Sweet Martha's Chocolate Cookie stand. Imagine a crowd 20 deep in front of each window. There are two such stands. We were limited to 19 buckets. I kid thee not, people were buying that many.
Said I didn't think a toad made it to my garden this year and what did I just find?
Owls in the gardening thread! Love it! Just a lurker, but I'd thought I could pass along a couple of pics of my local barred owls, from here in the Northeast Georgia mountains. . . There was (see below) a pair of barred owls that have been local to my cabin for a few years. I have mostly just heard them in the evening, calling to one another (there's a reason they're also called the eight-hoot owl - quite distinctive). I've only caught brief glimpses of one of them bombing through the trees over the years, until about a month ago. The local crow flock were making a racket one day, real close to the cabin (crows and ravens hate owls). It was the pair, about 50 feet from my back deck, perched in a tree. Over the course of the next several days, I would see them together, in the middle of the day, perched in the trees, but closer to my back porch each time. One pic is of the two of them about 10 feet off my deck, as close as I saw them. Two unfortunate results from their visiting this past month, though. My local squirrel friends were apparently easy hunting for them. There were about ten squirrels that nested close by, and six of them would visit me daily on my back deck. I had started putting put out roasted, unsalted peanuts for them on the deck railing (well, for them and the blue jays that took a liking to the goober peas, too). Eventually, two of the squirrels were so eager to beat their relatives to the treats that they would rush up and snatch them from my fingers before I could even put them on the railing. Now I only see three, and they are quite "gun-shy." One squirrel drops by from time to time for peanut handouts, but not like before when the gang was all here. Two weeks ago, the local birds were going crazy, chirping and squawking up a storm. I saw one of the barred owls floundering on the ground through the trees (it wound up circling the cabin). It had been severely injured. It's left wing was broken, it was missing feathers on it's left side, and there were signs of blood. I think one of the local broad-tailed hawk pair may have finally caught it unawares. Anyway, by the time I had snatched a blanket and called the wildlife ranger (he was one county away at the time), I lost sight of the owl in the woods. The other pic is of the owl resting briefly before crossing the road and floundering off into the woods. Three nights ago I could hear one of the owls calling off in the distance, with no return call. Sad. What lovely birds. Anyway, keep up the good work. I always enjoy all the informative garden threads. A Lurker.
Nice bunch of flowers currently. This thing gets so big we have cut it back every couple of years.
Javems on the Gulf Coast
On my jaunts around my neighborhood one house has the "trees" in the pictures planted along the curb. They've been blooming for quite a while and still have buds.
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Don't even get me started about the cancellation of the Great State Fair of Texas.
A year without Tornado Taters is a sad year...
A year without Tornado Taters is a sad year...
Posted by: Sal at August 29, 2020 01:17 PM (bo8pf)
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I can kill almost any plant, just by watering it.
But I truly enjoy each week's Gardening Thread, and seeing what y'all fine people can grow, produce and make thrive.
Just a *little* envy here. Meanwhile, I await the return of Galveston's "Farmer's Market". Wee, tiny little show, but there's usually always something unique and interesting there to buy.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
But I truly enjoy each week's Gardening Thread, and seeing what y'all fine people can grow, produce and make thrive.
Just a *little* envy here. Meanwhile, I await the return of Galveston's "Farmer's Market". Wee, tiny little show, but there's usually always something unique and interesting there to buy.
Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2020 01:21 PM (QzJWU)
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I would slice and grill that tomato and eat it with a side of rib-eye steak.
Posted by: Roy at August 29, 2020 01:23 PM (Ti+Tv)
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The garden is just sad- August in TX- but we have been puttering.
We bought a garden shed at last, painted the interior and built a step for easier access. (Some of us are short). The back porch looks a hundred times better with all the gardening stuff removed.
We added a raised bed on the street side, to look nice. I will put my irises in that, I think, with some short annuals for summer color.
We bought a garden shed at last, painted the interior and built a step for easier access. (Some of us are short). The back porch looks a hundred times better with all the gardening stuff removed.
We added a raised bed on the street side, to look nice. I will put my irises in that, I think, with some short annuals for summer color.
Posted by: Sal at August 29, 2020 01:25 PM (bo8pf)
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Stillwater, MN is my Mom's home town. Home of a state penitentiary.
Stillwater, MN is my Mom's home town. Home of a state penitentiary.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:26 PM (pNxlR)
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Had a good size tomato and something got to it before me.
Getting lots of tomatoes and hot peppers, cucumbers are fading quick.
Was burning poison ivy again last evening, it's everywhere here.
Getting lots of tomatoes and hot peppers, cucumbers are fading quick.
Was burning poison ivy again last evening, it's everywhere here.
Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2020 01:27 PM (OjZpE)
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Beautiful tomato.
The Minnesota State Fair pulls 220,000 visitors in a day, 2.2 million for the run. That was my error, not KT's.
In the Shakespeare in the Park - ing Lot picture, on the extreme left, you can see some chairs in grass. One of the sponsors is a sod company. Those were the box seats.
The Minnesota State Fair pulls 220,000 visitors in a day, 2.2 million for the run. That was my error, not KT's.
In the Shakespeare in the Park - ing Lot picture, on the extreme left, you can see some chairs in grass. One of the sponsors is a sod company. Those were the box seats.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 01:28 PM (o6iit)
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If we have garden toads, I find them starting around now as I begin clearing out dead growth from our perennials. I do not recall seeing any from the past two years, though.
If we have garden toads, I find them starting around now as I begin clearing out dead growth from our perennials. I do not recall seeing any from the past two years, though.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:31 PM (pNxlR)
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The penitentiary is still in Stillwater. Mostly now it's antique stores, tea shops, ice cream parlors and other such trendy things, and all the gay couples who own them. It's very nice, fun for an afternoon if you like things like that.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 01:33 PM (o6iit)
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As wrote last week, the closest creek where a toad came from is about 1/3 mile away, they don't need to live in water but must breed in a stream as far as I know.
Toads and bats are natures bug eating machines.
Toads and bats are natures bug eating machines.
Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2020 01:35 PM (OjZpE)
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That tomato reminds me of the 'that's not a knife' line
Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at August 29, 2020 01:36 PM (gtatv)
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Our garden beds are almost all perennials, and most of what we have are now past their blooming prime. Our rudbeckia are fading. Our Liriope are in their prime. We have some "tall" mums that won't bloom much this year because they had to be moved in order to eradicate thistles. Our Sedum gonna do what they do, but I am not a huge fan of them.
Any recommendations from gardeners here for plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
Our garden beds are almost all perennials, and most of what we have are now past their blooming prime. Our rudbeckia are fading. Our Liriope are in their prime. We have some "tall" mums that won't bloom much this year because they had to be moved in order to eradicate thistles. Our Sedum gonna do what they do, but I am not a huge fan of them.
Any recommendations from gardeners here for plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:39 PM (pNxlR)
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Well I claim my tomatoes are doing great but they aren't doing THAT great. I've got Rutgers, very tasty, thin skins, but small to medium in size.
Posted by: zeera My tomatoes are doing GREAT at August 29, 2020 01:40 PM (zUdXR)
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It's very nice, fun for an afternoon if you like things like that.
Posted by: Gordon Scott
Is the new bridge over the St. Croix completed? What are the plans for the old bridge?
It's very nice, fun for an afternoon if you like things like that.
Posted by: Gordon Scott
Is the new bridge over the St. Croix completed? What are the plans for the old bridge?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:40 PM (pNxlR)
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You can win 365,000 corn dogs in the trivia competition.
I bet that 11th question is impossible.
Regardless... Corn Dog was a bad dude.
I bet that 11th question is impossible.
Regardless... Corn Dog was a bad dude.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 29, 2020 01:40 PM (j3jZX)
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2020 01:41 PM (WyVLE)
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There was a good video of the Iowa derecho. Some guy was in his shop, a sheet metal building. First he's watching out the door. That gets a bit scary so he retreats inside. The lights go out and emergency lights go on. Then the roof rattles, and seconds later it disappears.
He retreats to the bathroom, the only solid structure left. He has to lean against the door to keep it closed. Water streams in through the light fixture. And sitting on the toilet seat cover, is a toad.
Weather is strange.
He retreats to the bathroom, the only solid structure left. He has to lean against the door to keep it closed. Water streams in through the light fixture. And sitting on the toilet seat cover, is a toad.
Weather is strange.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 01:41 PM (o6iit)
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Gun and Garden is a good magazine
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 01:41 PM (ONvIw)
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Any recommendations from gardeners here for plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
for me right now it's hibiscus going gangbusters still, but I guess they're not for everyone?
my hydrangeas are still blooming
toad lilies are great
second bloom on pinks (dianthus) cos I deadhead
and sebum are blooming now...hmm...looking around ...also roses but I deadhead them a lot so they go all summer into fall
and I fill in with annuals that bloom all summer like begonias and marigolds
for me right now it's hibiscus going gangbusters still, but I guess they're not for everyone?
my hydrangeas are still blooming
toad lilies are great
second bloom on pinks (dianthus) cos I deadhead
and sebum are blooming now...hmm...looking around ...also roses but I deadhead them a lot so they go all summer into fall
and I fill in with annuals that bloom all summer like begonias and marigolds
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 29, 2020 01:41 PM (j9HX3)
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sorry Krebs you said sedum and you said perennials
anyway i recommend hibiscus and toad lilies I guess?
I have asters doing pretty well here, I like the dwarf types mostly
anyway i recommend hibiscus and toad lilies I guess?
I have asters doing pretty well here, I like the dwarf types mostly
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 29, 2020 01:43 PM (j9HX3)
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Actually Garden and Gun. A kid gave it to me for Mother's Day a few years back
Anyway, I did about nothing outdoors. Too busy with doggo's medical stuff to do much else and the heat precludes taking him out.
Anyway, I did about nothing outdoors. Too busy with doggo's medical stuff to do much else and the heat precludes taking him out.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 01:43 PM (ONvIw)
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I am canning tomatoes today:
Pick a five gallon bucket of tomatoes
clean and cook them down with garlic and cayenne and basil.
run through Foley food mill
add a teaspoon of salt per quart
can per instructions.
I will probably can beans if i can pick enough.
Pick a five gallon bucket of tomatoes
clean and cook them down with garlic and cayenne and basil.
run through Foley food mill
add a teaspoon of salt per quart
can per instructions.
I will probably can beans if i can pick enough.
Posted by: Kindltot at August 29, 2020 01:43 PM (WyVLE)
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Stillwater is a very pretty and very old town. The St Croix river is scenic as heck.
Posted by: zeera My tomatoes are doing GREAT at August 29, 2020 01:44 PM (zUdXR)
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Anyone else here grow pagoda flowers?
Ours are 10+ feet tall now. Almost touching the gutters, and gorgeous blooms. The flower clusters are bigger than a football, about 14" x 8" .
Ours are 10+ feet tall now. Almost touching the gutters, and gorgeous blooms. The flower clusters are bigger than a football, about 14" x 8" .
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 29, 2020 01:44 PM (j3jZX)
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Krebs, the bridge is complete. State Highway 36 now just continues into Wisconsin. It's a nice bridge.
The old lift bridge is still there, but I think it's only for bicycles and foot traffic now. The big reopening got cancelled, but supporters of George Floyd had a ceremony, read from Barack Obama, and then beat and looted the other bridge patrons. The control room was ceremonially burned and is now boarded up.
Some of this didn't happen.
The old lift bridge is still there, but I think it's only for bicycles and foot traffic now. The big reopening got cancelled, but supporters of George Floyd had a ceremony, read from Barack Obama, and then beat and looted the other bridge patrons. The control room was ceremonially burned and is now boarded up.
Some of this didn't happen.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 01:47 PM (o6iit)
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 01:48 PM (BVQ+1)
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Much like Jesse Jacksons head, that looks like a container for a tomato.
Posted by: Menack at August 29, 2020 01:49 PM (buTO7)
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...for me right now it's hibiscus going gangbusters still, but I guess they're not for everyone?..."
We have several hibiscus bushes and they're nice. The down side is that they are the absolute favorite food for !@#%@!! whiteflies. It seems that whiteflies are spontaneously created in the presence of hibiscus.
We have several hibiscus bushes and they're nice. The down side is that they are the absolute favorite food for !@#%@!! whiteflies. It seems that whiteflies are spontaneously created in the presence of hibiscus.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 29, 2020 01:54 PM (AiZBA)
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Posted by: DR.WTF at August 29, 2020 01:56 PM (AiZBA)
Posted by: huerfano at August 29, 2020 01:56 PM (9dnxb)
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Oh, that tomato!
My parents' plants have produced an over abundance of tomatoes, so they sent ne home with a grocery bag FULL.
I may be cooking and freezing some. Would be a shame to throw them out.
Mine, on the other hand, aren't doing squat. The blossoms fall off but no fruit.
Delicata is starting to go gangbusters. Since I discovered they thicken soups, I will be planting next year. Will have to see how they keep when the shells harden.
My parents' plants have produced an over abundance of tomatoes, so they sent ne home with a grocery bag FULL.
I may be cooking and freezing some. Would be a shame to throw them out.
Mine, on the other hand, aren't doing squat. The blossoms fall off but no fruit.
Delicata is starting to go gangbusters. Since I discovered they thicken soups, I will be planting next year. Will have to see how they keep when the shells harden.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 29, 2020 01:57 PM (/+bwe)
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That Shakespeare in the Parking Lot sign is high-larious. Especially since they're performing Much Ado About Nothing.
That Shakespeare in the Parking Lot sign is high-larious. Especially since they're performing Much Ado About Nothing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2020 01:57 PM (EGyGV)
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Got a question for all you entomologists out there. I have a whole bunch of somethings flying around my front yard. They are mostly black with one set of wings. The last fourth of so of their abdomen are a reddish brown and they have two yellow spots about halfway down their abdomens. They are about an inch long. For the most part, they are buzzing around four to six inches above the top of the grass and very seldom come to rest. I live in Omaha. Any ideas? They are not cicada killers as best I can tell. Any idea? More importantly, do they sting?
Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at August 29, 2020 01:57 PM (NueWD)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:03 PM (Zz0t1)
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Wife had a friend post pics of their tomatoes today and they were all cracked and blackened in spots.
Turns out, that is usually caused by excessive amounts of rainfall or watering. Had to look that one up.
Turns out, that is usually caused by excessive amounts of rainfall or watering. Had to look that one up.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)
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Frog looks like a leopard frog. Them suckers are FAST.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:06 PM (Zz0t1)
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That Shakespeare in the Parking Lot sign is high-larious. Especially since they're performing Much Ado About Nothing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2020 01:57 PM (EGyGV)
Are the actors staying six feet apart?
That Shakespeare in the Parking Lot sign is high-larious. Especially since they're performing Much Ado About Nothing.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 29, 2020 01:57 PM (EGyGV)
Are the actors staying six feet apart?
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:07 PM (4JM5Y)
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Bonus garden question at the bottom of the post.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 02:08 PM (BVQ+1)
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Hmmm, I do not recognize the variety name of the hardy hibiscus bushes (Rose of Sharon).
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:09 PM (4JM5Y)
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From Skip:
Said I didn't think a toad made it to my garden this year and what did I just find?
Is that a toad? Looks like what we around here call an arrow frog.
Frogs have been numerous this year. Some Arrows, many tree frogs, and just little froggy guys. Several have managed to make it into the house. (We use the Mindful Webworks Critter Catcher Cup™ to usher them out.)
Numerous, but not a plague of frogs, at least, despite it being 2020. Could be just a warm-up. (Scanning the skies for locust swarms.)
Said I didn't think a toad made it to my garden this year and what did I just find?
Is that a toad? Looks like what we around here call an arrow frog.
Frogs have been numerous this year. Some Arrows, many tree frogs, and just little froggy guys. Several have managed to make it into the house. (We use the Mindful Webworks Critter Catcher Cup™ to usher them out.)
Numerous, but not a plague of frogs, at least, despite it being 2020. Could be just a warm-up. (Scanning the skies for locust swarms.)
Posted by: mindful webworker
that's why the 'mater is a fruit
at August 29, 2020 02:09 PM (tu/2g)
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Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2020 01:21 PM (QzJWU)
Congrats on missing out on Laura, by the way.
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX
Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2020 01:21 PM (QzJWU)
Congrats on missing out on Laura, by the way.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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KT those are hibiscus?
not sure which variety
they're great even I can't kill them
and when the garden is getting kind of "old" they pop up to cheer things up!
not sure which variety
they're great even I can't kill them
and when the garden is getting kind of "old" they pop up to cheer things up!
Posted by: BlackOrchid_j9HX3 at August 29, 2020 02:11 PM (j9HX3)
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Turns out, that is usually caused by excessive amounts of rainfall or watering. Had to look that one up.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)
I've heard that amending the soil with egg shells helps tomatoes tolerate moisture fluctuations better.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:04 PM (Zz0t1)
I've heard that amending the soil with egg shells helps tomatoes tolerate moisture fluctuations better.
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:12 PM (4JM5Y)
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Beautiful owls. Sad story.
Posted by: mindful webworker
hoo-hoot hoo-hoot hoo-hoot hoo-hoot
at August 29, 2020 02:12 PM (tu/2g)
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The trees are, I think, "Rose of Sharon", not sure of that species but I have a 12' tall one just like it outside the garage pad. I don't know how they spread (never seen seeds although I haven't really looked very hard) but boy, do they spread. And they have a really great root ball which is very hard to pull up even when small and they will regenerate from the cutoff stub of a root ball, seemingly in seconds.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at August 29, 2020 02:14 PM (2C38g)
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Thanks for the thread, and the great photos everyone. Looked up Pagoda flowers. Really interesting. I wonder if they would grow in Idaho, I will keep researching. Sad about that owl.
Posted by: MikeM at August 29, 2020 02:14 PM (HUUzL)
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I was totally bummed with my garden this year. I bought 2 beefsteak tomato plants - from different nurseries and different suppliers. But I knew something was wrong when they put out way too many blossoms. Turns out they were BOTH the same #&@%! plant. Golf ball size (a bit smaller) tomatoes. And not even that great tasting. So either the different growing nurseries got gypped on the seed, or it's all the same place with different names? I mean, what were the chances?
Part of my problem was when I was getting the plants, we were in the beginning phases of the lockdown in CA, and driving half an hour to Yamagami's (one of the last of its kind and an awesome REAL nursery) was right out. So the local and open choices weren't good (Home Despot and Ace).
I'm SO glad I got the celebrity, because it's been my only source. Not even one of my favorite hybrids, but it was that or early girl. Golf ball sized tomatoes are neither here nor there, completely useless. I guess it was an heirloom they developed cherry tomatoes from, I dunno. And not enough ripening at the same time to even try to can, plus they're almost all seed pod, very little meat.
My other flop was the Armenian cucumber. It went nuts at first, and I got a small batch of bread & butter pickles. But after that the fruit was more gourd shaped (round with skinny neck). Maybe it cross pollinated with something nasty? Who knows. I'm definitely going to order seed for next spring. The garden was sort of a last second thing planted in a former raised flower bed.
Part of my problem was when I was getting the plants, we were in the beginning phases of the lockdown in CA, and driving half an hour to Yamagami's (one of the last of its kind and an awesome REAL nursery) was right out. So the local and open choices weren't good (Home Despot and Ace).
I'm SO glad I got the celebrity, because it's been my only source. Not even one of my favorite hybrids, but it was that or early girl. Golf ball sized tomatoes are neither here nor there, completely useless. I guess it was an heirloom they developed cherry tomatoes from, I dunno. And not enough ripening at the same time to even try to can, plus they're almost all seed pod, very little meat.
My other flop was the Armenian cucumber. It went nuts at first, and I got a small batch of bread & butter pickles. But after that the fruit was more gourd shaped (round with skinny neck). Maybe it cross pollinated with something nasty? Who knows. I'm definitely going to order seed for next spring. The garden was sort of a last second thing planted in a former raised flower bed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:17 PM (8B6Ng)
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I've heard that amending the soil with egg shells helps tomatoes tolerate moisture fluctuations better.
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:12 PM (4JM5Y)
Interesting!
I'll have to pass that along.
I've heard that amending the soil with egg shells helps tomatoes tolerate moisture fluctuations better.
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:12 PM (4JM5Y)
Interesting!
I'll have to pass that along.
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:18 PM (Zz0t1)
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'Sup, Y'all?! Made it to the farm-o this week to cut the grass which was about four feet tall.
Posted by: Weasel at August 29, 2020 02:20 PM (MVjcR)
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I've heard that amending the soil with egg shells helps tomatoes tolerate moisture fluctuations better.
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:12 PM (4JM5Y)
Grandma Aspirin Factory used to do that. Also coffee grounds.
Posted by: Emmie at August 29, 2020 02:12 PM (4JM5Y)
Grandma Aspirin Factory used to do that. Also coffee grounds.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 29, 2020 02:20 PM (Rz0fv)
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Owls Pics are great. Sad story, and I hope it survives.
I take back my slander against the tomato plants. Found a laden branch leaning into the sedum, so I will have at least five. Yay!
The sedum are outgrowing tte pots and killed off the grasses that were intermingled. So the plan is to rip out the daylilies between the oaks, which don't get enough light, and replace with sedum. Just hoping I don't kill off the columbine in tge process.
I take back my slander against the tomato plants. Found a laden branch leaning into the sedum, so I will have at least five. Yay!
The sedum are outgrowing tte pots and killed off the grasses that were intermingled. So the plan is to rip out the daylilies between the oaks, which don't get enough light, and replace with sedum. Just hoping I don't kill off the columbine in tge process.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 29, 2020 02:22 PM (/+bwe)
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The actors all stayed six feet apart. Kisses were air kisses. There was a guy in a yellow suit that walked in with a sign now and then to remind them. The villainous associates of Don John had to put on shock collars as the watch couldn't touch them.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 02:23 PM (o6iit)
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G and G is a great magazine.... we highly recommend, and have given several gift subscriptions to friends here. (yes, in bluest of blue #Failifornia), all warmly received.
you won't go wrong signing up.
you won't go wrong signing up.
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 29, 2020 02:23 PM (gVCVQ)
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Leopard Frog is my guess ... but wiki says "Leopard frog is a generic name used to refer to various species in the true frog genus Lithobates. They all have similar coloration: brown or green with spots that form a leopard pattern."
Owls are heard more than seen here ... had one (great horned?) on my quonset the other night, sometimes they fly off when I'm on the trails. They seem like a good omen to me.
That is one huge tomato ... nice.
Owls are heard more than seen here ... had one (great horned?) on my quonset the other night, sometimes they fly off when I'm on the trails. They seem like a good omen to me.
That is one huge tomato ... nice.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 29, 2020 02:24 PM (Cus5s)
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I continue to have bad luck with brassicas, which sucks because we eat a lot of them. The cucumbers are looking great, though, and the peppers are coming back after a short hiatus when it was so hot out. Might get a few butternut squash this year.
This garden is tricky because I don't know if we're going to be here next year. So I don't really want to plant garlic or perennials. But if we stay, I'm going to wish I had. Oh, well.
This garden is tricky because I don't know if we're going to be here next year. So I don't really want to plant garlic or perennials. But if we stay, I'm going to wish I had. Oh, well.
Posted by: right wing yankee at August 29, 2020 02:25 PM (78ZAE)
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Gardening can have great returns on effort. We don't even put much effort in, and while the returns are proportionately less, we still enjoy some fruits of our not-so-laborious labors.
Best thing this year was the rose outside the front window, regularly visited by hummingbirds. Where I sit at the AoS-reading machine, they're just a few feet in front of me.
And now, the old, no-longer-producing mulberry is shedding its leaves. The oaks are starting to have some brown around the leaf edges. Other signs of incipient autumn. Almost 100°F here yesterday, but cooler predicted in the coming week. It was, despite some hot days, a pretty mild August for Oklahoma.
I'm not sure what the trees are at the end of the neighbors' driveway, but they start to bud out in February, seems like, and then... as happened just the other day... flump! almost all the leaves fall at once!
Maybe next year the peach trees will produce something.
Best thing this year was the rose outside the front window, regularly visited by hummingbirds. Where I sit at the AoS-reading machine, they're just a few feet in front of me.
And now, the old, no-longer-producing mulberry is shedding its leaves. The oaks are starting to have some brown around the leaf edges. Other signs of incipient autumn. Almost 100°F here yesterday, but cooler predicted in the coming week. It was, despite some hot days, a pretty mild August for Oklahoma.
I'm not sure what the trees are at the end of the neighbors' driveway, but they start to bud out in February, seems like, and then... as happened just the other day... flump! almost all the leaves fall at once!
Maybe next year the peach trees will produce something.
Posted by: mindful webworker
Is it real, or is it AI?
at August 29, 2020 02:26 PM (tu/2g)
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Those blooming shrubs are Rose of Sharon. I cannot name the variety.
We have about two dozen of them in one bed that surrounds the base of a maple tree. It started out as one plant having magenta flowers with deep red centers. All the other RoSs around it came from its seeds over the course of a dozen years. A couple of the offspring resemble the RoSs in the pictures.
As it was a hybrid, the offspring have flowers in all varieties, with petals ranging from deep magenta to pure white and throats ranging from deep red to white. They make an interesting display of genetics at work.
Those blooming shrubs are Rose of Sharon. I cannot name the variety.
We have about two dozen of them in one bed that surrounds the base of a maple tree. It started out as one plant having magenta flowers with deep red centers. All the other RoSs around it came from its seeds over the course of a dozen years. A couple of the offspring resemble the RoSs in the pictures.
As it was a hybrid, the offspring have flowers in all varieties, with petals ranging from deep magenta to pure white and throats ranging from deep red to white. They make an interesting display of genetics at work.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 02:26 PM (pNxlR)
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I'm definitely going to order seed for next spring. The garden was sort of a last second thing planted in a former raised flower bed.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:17 PM
I hope it goes better. That tomato problem sounds like a mislabel.
BabyBro has a weird purple, seedy monster among his normal table variety. It is some Russian variety. *insert joke about Commie infiltrators*
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:17 PM
I hope it goes better. That tomato problem sounds like a mislabel.
BabyBro has a weird purple, seedy monster among his normal table variety. It is some Russian variety. *insert joke about Commie infiltrators*
Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (/+bwe)
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Any recommendations from gardeners here for
plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle
Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not
had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody
planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:39 PM
If you're looking for things to plant now, you might consider echinacea, helenium, shasta daisies, coreopsis, cosmos, gaillardia, mildew-resistant zinnias, fall-blooming sedums (change color over time), coral bells, perennial hibiscus (the kind that die back in winter), hardy plumbago for blue flowers (it's short), fall-blooming salvias, fall anemones if you can find them.
There are more. I don't know if chicory is sold. You may be able to find wild plants.
plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle
Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not
had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody
planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:39 PM
If you're looking for things to plant now, you might consider echinacea, helenium, shasta daisies, coreopsis, cosmos, gaillardia, mildew-resistant zinnias, fall-blooming sedums (change color over time), coral bells, perennial hibiscus (the kind that die back in winter), hardy plumbago for blue flowers (it's short), fall-blooming salvias, fall anemones if you can find them.
There are more. I don't know if chicory is sold. You may be able to find wild plants.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (BVQ+1)
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I would have called that toad a frog, where I grew up, so. shore massachusetts. Toads are bumpy, aren't they?
Posted by: From that time at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (aAQRl)
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Yup, that's a leopard frog, R. pipiens. Skip will have to keep waiting for his toad. Long ago I netted those from a local pond and gave them to my high school for biology classes, where they met a sticky end.
Posted by: Pat*'s Hubby at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (2pX/F)
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From Idaho's Treasure Valley, Boise area: We had some air quality alerts from the smoke drifts from CA and OR fires - fortunately not as bad an issue as some years - and that seems to be over, for now.
We emptied 2 of our 10 potato bags (I haven't weighed the results yet). We do have some that have surface cracking - anyone know what that might be, and how I can prevent it? We always use soil fresh from the garden store to fill the potato bags, so we don't carry any problems over from year to year via the soil.
The red raspberries are coming in heavily at this point - we've been freezing those for protein shakes and ice cream toppings.
Corn season just ended - husband picked over the last 2 of our 8 rows, and we processed 3.5 pounds of stew corn. Now we'll cut the stalks down to about 6 inches, spray all the weeds, and wait till it's time for the spring tilling. (Those 6 inch handles make it easy for me to pull them out of the tilled soil.)
We're getting occasional tomatoes (*nothing* like S.Lynn's!!), but I haven't started processing any Romas yet.
Haven't yet tested the first cantaloupe I harvested, or the soybeans.
We had an onion start we planted last year, that apparently got missed when we were harvesting - this year it flowered (3-4 foot stalks!), and we just left it to see what would happen. Now I actually have onion *seeds* - I'll experiment with them next year, I think.
Husband thought we might try doing some fall lawn patching, since the high temperatures are dropping off a bit, and we still have 4 to 6 weeks of irrigation left.
Still no new neighbor to the north - still hoping they'll be good folks.
Last week, I promised Pillage Idiot I would talk to a beekeeping friend (she has 7 hives in her backyard). The most important thing she said is, now is not the time to start - but if you're going to go ahead with beekeeping, you should buy all your equipment this fall/winter, and get bees started in spring. There's a lot to do when you're just starting out. She mentions feeding them until they've built out the wax in their living space - at minimum, once every several days. Predators include mice, ants, and yellow jackets. And there's checking for Varroa mites. She says she goes out to watch her bees several times a day, just to eyeball them and see what they're doing.
***
Hope everyone else is staying safe, staying well, and *staying prepared* for whatever craziness may show up before the November election!
We emptied 2 of our 10 potato bags (I haven't weighed the results yet). We do have some that have surface cracking - anyone know what that might be, and how I can prevent it? We always use soil fresh from the garden store to fill the potato bags, so we don't carry any problems over from year to year via the soil.
The red raspberries are coming in heavily at this point - we've been freezing those for protein shakes and ice cream toppings.
Corn season just ended - husband picked over the last 2 of our 8 rows, and we processed 3.5 pounds of stew corn. Now we'll cut the stalks down to about 6 inches, spray all the weeds, and wait till it's time for the spring tilling. (Those 6 inch handles make it easy for me to pull them out of the tilled soil.)
We're getting occasional tomatoes (*nothing* like S.Lynn's!!), but I haven't started processing any Romas yet.
Haven't yet tested the first cantaloupe I harvested, or the soybeans.
We had an onion start we planted last year, that apparently got missed when we were harvesting - this year it flowered (3-4 foot stalks!), and we just left it to see what would happen. Now I actually have onion *seeds* - I'll experiment with them next year, I think.
Husband thought we might try doing some fall lawn patching, since the high temperatures are dropping off a bit, and we still have 4 to 6 weeks of irrigation left.
Still no new neighbor to the north - still hoping they'll be good folks.
Last week, I promised Pillage Idiot I would talk to a beekeeping friend (she has 7 hives in her backyard). The most important thing she said is, now is not the time to start - but if you're going to go ahead with beekeeping, you should buy all your equipment this fall/winter, and get bees started in spring. There's a lot to do when you're just starting out. She mentions feeding them until they've built out the wax in their living space - at minimum, once every several days. Predators include mice, ants, and yellow jackets. And there's checking for Varroa mites. She says she goes out to watch her bees several times a day, just to eyeball them and see what they're doing.
***
Hope everyone else is staying safe, staying well, and *staying prepared* for whatever craziness may show up before the November election!
Posted by: Pat* at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (2pX/F)
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Even nongarden me could recognize the Rose of Sharon.
Note for Pet Thread --a small triad of Rose of Sharon was decreed as our family pet cemetery. One of my neighbors has a beautiful tree, but all I can think of is that her son (dead now too young) and a few other neighborhood boys used that tree to hang barbie dolls for Halloween.
Sniffling, but laughing at the same time.
Note for Pet Thread --a small triad of Rose of Sharon was decreed as our family pet cemetery. One of my neighbors has a beautiful tree, but all I can think of is that her son (dead now too young) and a few other neighborhood boys used that tree to hang barbie dolls for Halloween.
Sniffling, but laughing at the same time.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 29, 2020 02:29 PM (MIKMs)
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mindful webworker
Is it real, or is it AI?
at August 29, 2020 02:26 PM
Peaches bear on second-year wood. They take more renewal than some other stone fruits.
Is it real, or is it AI?
at August 29, 2020 02:26 PM
Peaches bear on second-year wood. They take more renewal than some other stone fruits.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 02:29 PM (BVQ+1)
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Some of this didn't happen.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 01:47 PM (o6iit)
"Minnesota Nice!"
Some of this didn't happen.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 01:47 PM (o6iit)
"Minnesota Nice!"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 02:29 PM (pNxlR)
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Oh, I do love Barred owls, especially when they hoot at night. I used to see a pair in the woods near us, late in the day. Ecosystems are tough on the critters.
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at August 29, 2020 02:30 PM (Vf4Y7)
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Pretty sure that is a rose of Sharon. . I had a purple one in my garden in Mass., so when my son in DC asked what that tree in his yard was, I had to look it up. I was surprised about the colors because it was so different from my purple one. Also bloomed in the fall.
Apparently I was named after the tree. Really.
Apparently I was named after the tree. Really.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 29, 2020 02:30 PM (sd8p8)
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Those owls are gorgeous, so sad to hear. I love birds, and have done what I can to give them a habitat in my back yard. Love to see the same ones returning every year.
Sadly I just learned the idiot next door neighbor has a creepy fixation with feral cats. He's feeding them - even putting $%^& kibble in my front yard! He stands out in the street at night (drunk AF) calling them. So, besides cat crap in my veggie garden and lawn, and every door and car tire sprayed, I found a pile of blue feathers a couple of weeks ago. My blue jay family isn't around any more, and most of the songbirds have split.
I feel terrible since I basically attracted the food source for these @#$% cats. And it was probably the young jay that got it, because he'd always come around when I was out digging to grab all the bugs I'd be turning over. And yeah, sometimes he'd get a bit of crust if I was eating a sandwich.
Sadly I just learned the idiot next door neighbor has a creepy fixation with feral cats. He's feeding them - even putting $%^& kibble in my front yard! He stands out in the street at night (drunk AF) calling them. So, besides cat crap in my veggie garden and lawn, and every door and car tire sprayed, I found a pile of blue feathers a couple of weeks ago. My blue jay family isn't around any more, and most of the songbirds have split.
I feel terrible since I basically attracted the food source for these @#$% cats. And it was probably the young jay that got it, because he'd always come around when I was out digging to grab all the bugs I'd be turning over. And yeah, sometimes he'd get a bit of crust if I was eating a sandwich.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:31 PM (8B6Ng)
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I don't know if chicory is sold. You may be able to find wild plants.
Posted by: KT
I have seen it in seed catalogs, but cannot recall which ones at the moment.
I don't know if chicory is sold. You may be able to find wild plants.
Posted by: KT
I have seen it in seed catalogs, but cannot recall which ones at the moment.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 02:32 PM (pNxlR)
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Concur with Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! above, the street trees seem to be Rose of Sharon, a lovely bush with gorgeous flowers. It's in the hibiscus family but is one of the few that can live further north year round, as long as it's planted in the earth not growing in a pot.
I have a question for the Gardening Horde - I've taken cuttings from some grape vines and some clematis plants. Sold the in-laws family home and wasn't able to dig them up so took some cuttings, which are not looking all that great. Any advice is appreciated. I started the grape vines in jars of water (with rooting compound) and when tiny roots appeared transplanted them to pots with potting soil. Now they don't seem happy. All the leaves have died and fallen off.
The clematis are still in their jars of water and they still have nice green leaves, but no roots yet.
Thanks and happy Saturday to all! It's a beautiful day and I'm about to make Strawberry Shortcakes from scratch for a birthday dinner.
I have a question for the Gardening Horde - I've taken cuttings from some grape vines and some clematis plants. Sold the in-laws family home and wasn't able to dig them up so took some cuttings, which are not looking all that great. Any advice is appreciated. I started the grape vines in jars of water (with rooting compound) and when tiny roots appeared transplanted them to pots with potting soil. Now they don't seem happy. All the leaves have died and fallen off.
The clematis are still in their jars of water and they still have nice green leaves, but no roots yet.
Thanks and happy Saturday to all! It's a beautiful day and I'm about to make Strawberry Shortcakes from scratch for a birthday dinner.
Posted by: Boots at August 29, 2020 02:32 PM (oGBso)
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Posted by: redc1c4 at August 29, 2020 02:23 PM (gVCVQ)
Garden and Gun also runs some great dog stories every once in a while.
Garden and Gun also runs some great dog stories every once in a while.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar -Your Rulers Have, and Deserve, Different Rules! - at August 29, 2020 02:34 PM (2C38g)
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clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:17 PM
Sorry your garden was disappointing. Armenian cucumbers are melons. Melons are often shaped wrong if they are not fully pollinated. They may do better with more plants to attract more bees and provide more pollen.
Regular cucumbers are sometime shaped oddly too. But there are some varieties that need no pollination and make no seeds.
Sorry your garden was disappointing. Armenian cucumbers are melons. Melons are often shaped wrong if they are not fully pollinated. They may do better with more plants to attract more bees and provide more pollen.
Regular cucumbers are sometime shaped oddly too. But there are some varieties that need no pollination and make no seeds.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 02:34 PM (BVQ+1)
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Any recommendations from gardeners here for
plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle
Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not
had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody
planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
Check out Autumn Joy sedum. Looks interesting when it's green, begins turning pink now, then reddens, and dries to a rusty color.
plantings that would bloom from late August into October in the Middle
Atlantic region? I know that Asters are a possibility, but we have not
had much luck with them. "Regular" mums are a choice, too. Has anybody
planted Chickory for late summer blue blooms in their garden?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)
Check out Autumn Joy sedum. Looks interesting when it's green, begins turning pink now, then reddens, and dries to a rusty color.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at August 29, 2020 02:34 PM (/+bwe)
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I have seen it in seed catalogs, but cannot recall which ones at the moment.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 02:32 PM (pNxlR)
Eden brothers has it, many others
I have seen it in seed catalogs, but cannot recall which ones at the moment.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 02:32 PM (pNxlR)
Eden brothers has it, many others
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:34 PM (ONvIw)
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I have Rose of Sharon in my hedge row, they do look like that
Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2020 02:36 PM (OjZpE)
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75 I have Rose of Sharon in my hedge row, they do look like that
Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2020 02:36 PM (OjZpE)
Kid #1 has a large one like that. It's a Rose of Sharon
Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2020 02:36 PM (OjZpE)
Kid #1 has a large one like that. It's a Rose of Sharon
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:36 PM (ONvIw)
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Hibiscus Syriacus
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
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Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 01:39 PM (pNxlR)
Blue Heron agastache blooms til a killing frost for me, but I am in the Upper South. If I keep them dead-headed, my balloon flowers will also be there til a hard frost takes them.
My perennial salvias are also good through frost.
Black Orchid brings up an excellent point, too: most perennials will rebloom if you cut them back hard after their first flush of bloom. Not just dead head, but cutting the entire plant right down to say 6-8 inches off the ground. (Provided you are not interested in the foliage, of course)
Keep in mind, many perennials are sunlight sensitive. I don't mean the "full sun part shade" type designation, but rather that they are genetically programmed to quit blooming once the days start shortening. (And then there are the ones that don't start blooming at all until the daylight hours are fully (lengthened)
FYI, most asters want way more water than most people give them, and are extremely picky about being moved at the wrong time of year. They do best when they're pinched back like mums a few times during the growing season, too; it helps them bulk up, and delays blooming until Fall, as God surely intended.
None of this holds true for the large-flowered China asters, which I have decided can only be grown well by actual communists.
If you are not opposed to a few annuals, Proven Winners has an annual sunflower called Suncredible that I have been extremely pleased with. Multi-branching blooming machine, takes zero maintenance.
Blue Heron agastache blooms til a killing frost for me, but I am in the Upper South. If I keep them dead-headed, my balloon flowers will also be there til a hard frost takes them.
My perennial salvias are also good through frost.
Black Orchid brings up an excellent point, too: most perennials will rebloom if you cut them back hard after their first flush of bloom. Not just dead head, but cutting the entire plant right down to say 6-8 inches off the ground. (Provided you are not interested in the foliage, of course)
Keep in mind, many perennials are sunlight sensitive. I don't mean the "full sun part shade" type designation, but rather that they are genetically programmed to quit blooming once the days start shortening. (And then there are the ones that don't start blooming at all until the daylight hours are fully (lengthened)
FYI, most asters want way more water than most people give them, and are extremely picky about being moved at the wrong time of year. They do best when they're pinched back like mums a few times during the growing season, too; it helps them bulk up, and delays blooming until Fall, as God surely intended.
None of this holds true for the large-flowered China asters, which I have decided can only be grown well by actual communists.
If you are not opposed to a few annuals, Proven Winners has an annual sunflower called Suncredible that I have been extremely pleased with. Multi-branching blooming machine, takes zero maintenance.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (n77pf)
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(Pagoda flowers)
Where do they live?
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 01:48 PM
I'm in FL and they do exceedingly well here. I think they're either from Vietnam or Indonesia.
Easy to plant, and they spread, perennially. I'll post pics next week.
Where do they live?
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 01:48 PM
I'm in FL and they do exceedingly well here. I think they're either from Vietnam or Indonesia.
Easy to plant, and they spread, perennially. I'll post pics next week.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (j3jZX)
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She mentions feeding them until they've built out the wax in their living space - at minimum, once every several days. Predators include mice, ants, and yellow jackets. And there's checking for Varroa mites. She says she goes out to watch her bees several times a day, just to eyeball them and see what they're doing.
***
Hope everyone else is staying safe, staying well, and *staying prepared* for whatever craziness may show up before the November election!
Posted by: Pat* at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (2pX/F)
For a few years we let beekeepers keep hives in our backyard. I loved going back there and watching them. Until just recently, there were several cherry orchards nearby, and a few apricots.
I'm definitely not an expert on bees, other than it seems you've got to do something pretty aggressive to get stung. I didn't know you could "feed" bees, but it makes sense. Then again, I'm the type who goes and gets a dab of honey for a bee on the ground that's run out of fuel. I thought it was interesting that you can tell the difference between the hives by the bees. Like one hive is really fuzzy and golden, the other longer, shiny and darker.
***
Hope everyone else is staying safe, staying well, and *staying prepared* for whatever craziness may show up before the November election!
Posted by: Pat* at August 29, 2020 02:27 PM (2pX/F)
For a few years we let beekeepers keep hives in our backyard. I loved going back there and watching them. Until just recently, there were several cherry orchards nearby, and a few apricots.
I'm definitely not an expert on bees, other than it seems you've got to do something pretty aggressive to get stung. I didn't know you could "feed" bees, but it makes sense. Then again, I'm the type who goes and gets a dab of honey for a bee on the ground that's run out of fuel. I thought it was interesting that you can tell the difference between the hives by the bees. Like one hive is really fuzzy and golden, the other longer, shiny and darker.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (8B6Ng)
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This must not be my day to get outside. For the second time since midmorning it has started raining heavily. I guess I'll go grocery shopping instead.
This must not be my day to get outside. For the second time since midmorning it has started raining heavily. I guess I'll go grocery shopping instead.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 29, 2020 02:40 PM (pNxlR)
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Sorry your garden was disappointing. Armenian cucumbers are melons. Melons are often shaped wrong if they are not fully pollinated. They may do better with more plants to attract more bees and provide more pollen.
Regular cucumbers are sometime shaped oddly too. But there are some varieties that need no pollination and make no seeds.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 02:34 PM (BVQ+1)
Yes, I found that out AFTER I bought the plant, sadly. I was thinking from the picture it would be similar to some of the Asian cukes I used to grow. My other issue with it is since it is a melon it takes as much space as one. The bed they're in currently is just too small for that.
I've got lots of property, so I just need to prep an area this winter. It's solid rock, so I'll need to hire somebody to clear a spot. My back complains too much these days. The whole back yard is lawn, so I'd much prefer something productive if I'm going to be using water!
Regular cucumbers are sometime shaped oddly too. But there are some varieties that need no pollination and make no seeds.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 02:34 PM (BVQ+1)
Yes, I found that out AFTER I bought the plant, sadly. I was thinking from the picture it would be similar to some of the Asian cukes I used to grow. My other issue with it is since it is a melon it takes as much space as one. The bed they're in currently is just too small for that.
I've got lots of property, so I just need to prep an area this winter. It's solid rock, so I'll need to hire somebody to clear a spot. My back complains too much these days. The whole back yard is lawn, so I'd much prefer something productive if I'm going to be using water!
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 29, 2020 02:41 PM (8B6Ng)
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Container gardening, NYS:
I hauled in a whole lot of banana and cubanelle peppers this week. This is the fourth round. Since all the peppers were grown at Hubby's request, he now has to deal with them.
He made a quick fridge brine for a small red pepper (looks like a peppadew, but not the brand name) for us to later stuff with a cream cheese mixture. He's thinking about making a modified giardiniera recipe (I also picked some jalapeņo peppers), but he'd have to shelf-stable can those, and I am not sure he's up for the project. {shrug} His problem, not mine.
I started pulling and drying onions last week. There is still a huge load to do, but that is easy, so I guess that is my last gardening project for the year.
Happy gardening!
I hauled in a whole lot of banana and cubanelle peppers this week. This is the fourth round. Since all the peppers were grown at Hubby's request, he now has to deal with them.
He made a quick fridge brine for a small red pepper (looks like a peppadew, but not the brand name) for us to later stuff with a cream cheese mixture. He's thinking about making a modified giardiniera recipe (I also picked some jalapeņo peppers), but he'd have to shelf-stable can those, and I am not sure he's up for the project. {shrug} His problem, not mine.
I started pulling and drying onions last week. There is still a huge load to do, but that is easy, so I guess that is my last gardening project for the year.
Happy gardening!
Posted by: Ann at August 29, 2020 02:43 PM (NDO5Q)
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There is also a double althea- the fancy name for Rose of Sharon- that looks a bit like a carnation. We had one at the old house that grew into a mighty tree. Alas, it perished in a foundation repair.
I like to plant things that remind me of dear relatives, now mostly gone, or places where we lived. My grandmother had those at the farm.
I like to plant things that remind me of dear relatives, now mostly gone, or places where we lived. My grandmother had those at the farm.
Posted by: Sal at August 29, 2020 02:44 PM (bo8pf)
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Posted by: Boots at August 29, 2020 02:32 PM (oGBso)
Clematis would probably root better in some sort of potting medium, and if you can dip it in rooting hormone before then, even better, although I always forget to.
Do you know what kind of clematis it was?
Clematis would probably root better in some sort of potting medium, and if you can dip it in rooting hormone before then, even better, although I always forget to.
Do you know what kind of clematis it was?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 02:44 PM (kNElV)
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Hibiscus Syriacus
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
Do you find something funny about the name Biggus.....Dickus?!?
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
Do you find something funny about the name Biggus.....Dickus?!?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)
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And this was the year I was certain to capture a blue ribbon with my prize winning dandelions. Oh well
Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2020 02:47 PM (GZ+At)
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None of this holds true for the large-flowered China asters, which I have decided can only be grown well by actual communists.
OK, I laffed. Reminds me a bit of the transplants who were determined that they WOULD grow lilacs here, dammit!
None of this holds true for the large-flowered China asters, which I have decided can only be grown well by actual communists.
OK, I laffed. Reminds me a bit of the transplants who were determined that they WOULD grow lilacs here, dammit!
Posted by: Sal at August 29, 2020 02:49 PM (bo8pf)
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Oh and on the clematis, it can take longer to root if you take the cuttings late in the year, and the stems are woodier.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 02:51 PM (kNElV)
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Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 02:52 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 02:54 PM (kNElV)
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Dogs and cats proclaim Nood!
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at August 29, 2020 02:55 PM (j+mte)
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I don't know if anyone has noticed, but canning lids are really difficult to locate this year. It makes sense, as I noticed that vegetable seeds were selling very strongly in the spring.
My wife had a friend who decorated a wedding a year ago. She had used canning jars as centerpieces, and had a whole bunch of unused rings and lids. They were due to be tossed out, but we have them now.
My wife had a friend who decorated a wedding a year ago. She had used canning jars as centerpieces, and had a whole bunch of unused rings and lids. They were due to be tossed out, but we have them now.
Posted by: Gordon Scott at August 29, 2020 03:00 PM (o6iit)
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Reminds me a bit of the transplants who were determined that they WOULD grow lilacs here, dammit!
Posted by: Sal at August 29, 2020 02:49 PM (bo8pf)
That reminds me of one of my favorite Aunts-by-marriage who was from Indiana, and missed her peonies while living in Charleston SC.
She planted a few roots in her little courtyard garden; she put blocks of ice on them all winter, and kept a fan on them all summer. She always did manage to get a few blooms, even if it was just one on each scraggly bush. I think they were Sarah Bernhardt's and the white one that gets the red splatches.....Festiva or something like that?
Posted by: Sal at August 29, 2020 02:49 PM (bo8pf)
That reminds me of one of my favorite Aunts-by-marriage who was from Indiana, and missed her peonies while living in Charleston SC.
She planted a few roots in her little courtyard garden; she put blocks of ice on them all winter, and kept a fan on them all summer. She always did manage to get a few blooms, even if it was just one on each scraggly bush. I think they were Sarah Bernhardt's and the white one that gets the red splatches.....Festiva or something like that?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 03:01 PM (kNElV)
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Hi Tammy! Thanks for your advice last night!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:06 PM (NWiLs)
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86 Hibiscus Syriacus
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
Do you find something funny about the name Biggus.....Dickus?!?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)
Do you find it...wisible?
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2020 02:37 PM (ONvIw)
Do you find something funny about the name Biggus.....Dickus?!?
Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 29, 2020 02:45 PM (Zz0t1)
Do you find it...wisible?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:06 PM (NWiLs)
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Thunderstorm rolling in. Welcome to Florida in the summertime.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:07 PM (NWiLs)
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All by myself...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:09 PM (NWiLs)
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All by myself...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:09 PM (NWiLs)
As it should be.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:09 PM (NWiLs)
As it should be.
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 29, 2020 03:15 PM (cknjq)
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100 All by myself...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:09 PM (NWiLs)
As it should be.
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 29, 2020 03:15 PM (cknjq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:09 PM (NWiLs)
As it should be.
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 29, 2020 03:15 PM (cknjq)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:16 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: weirdflunky at August 29, 2020 03:19 PM (cknjq)
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By the way, your toad is a leopard frog. (pic)
As for growing tomatoes, start the seed traditionally, but also cover seed with several layers of wet paper towel. It works much like a forcing bulb that makes the plant germinate regardless of it not wanting to. Don't water tomatoes just before picking, the added water in the tomato badly thins the taste/flavor. For any gardening, get the ph of the ground balanced before the gardening year starts. Use blooming encouraging fertilizer a couple of months after the start. Tomatos love to climb, keep them off the ground. One month after the tomatos are planted in the garden, i use a liquid lawn fertilizer by garden hose, as it is mild yet effective to stimulate growth. Weed barrier sure helps the tomatos too. I especially enjoy cattle paneling hoops to make harvesting and upkeep a breeze, the tomatoes enjoy it that way too.
Tobacco love the same conditions as tomatos, except not the climbing nature.
As for growing tomatoes, start the seed traditionally, but also cover seed with several layers of wet paper towel. It works much like a forcing bulb that makes the plant germinate regardless of it not wanting to. Don't water tomatoes just before picking, the added water in the tomato badly thins the taste/flavor. For any gardening, get the ph of the ground balanced before the gardening year starts. Use blooming encouraging fertilizer a couple of months after the start. Tomatos love to climb, keep them off the ground. One month after the tomatos are planted in the garden, i use a liquid lawn fertilizer by garden hose, as it is mild yet effective to stimulate growth. Weed barrier sure helps the tomatos too. I especially enjoy cattle paneling hoops to make harvesting and upkeep a breeze, the tomatoes enjoy it that way too.
Tobacco love the same conditions as tomatos, except not the climbing nature.
Posted by: ron n. at August 29, 2020 03:21 PM (om5HK)
Posted by: Moki at August 29, 2020 03:27 PM (+X9Vs)
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LOL that would be interesting, Moki.
Posted by: Ann at August 29, 2020 03:33 PM (NDO5Q)
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Hi Tammy! Thanks for your advice last night!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:06 PM (NWiLs)
MWAH! (Which is a big kiss!)
What have you appreciated today?
And may I also suggest that there are much more uplifting verses about gardening in the Bible? It;s little things like that that matter. Think of how many times you have posted about hardness of living? It's funny, and we get a kick out of it, but just imagine posting something positive and beautiful!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 29, 2020 03:06 PM (NWiLs)
MWAH! (Which is a big kiss!)
What have you appreciated today?
And may I also suggest that there are much more uplifting verses about gardening in the Bible? It;s little things like that that matter. Think of how many times you have posted about hardness of living? It's funny, and we get a kick out of it, but just imagine posting something positive and beautiful!
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 03:39 PM (kNElV)
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Cursed is the ground because of you; through painful toil you will eat food from it all the days of your life. It will produce thorns and thistles for you, and you will eat the plants of the field. By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return. -- Genesis 3:17-19
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Hiya Mr. Sunshine !
What are you doing here ?
I thougtr you'd be at the MoMee autographing bras !
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
Hiya Mr. Sunshine !
What are you doing here ?
I thougtr you'd be at the MoMee autographing bras !
Posted by: JT at August 29, 2020 04:31 PM (arJlL)
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Clematis would probably root better in some sort of potting medium, and if you can dip it in rooting hormone before then, even better, although I always forget to.
Do you know what kind of clematis it was?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 02:44 PM (kNElV)
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Thanks for the tips Tammy, I'm not sure what variety of clematis but it blooms in the early spring with large deep purple blooms. Very pretty, my MIL planted these years ago on the side of the house and none of us remembered they were there until the very last minute before we had to vacate the place. So I did get some rooting powder and dip the ends in that before putting them in water. It's so late that the stems are rather woody though :-(
The grapes I think are a lost cause, everything I've read online says to take cuttings during the dormant season and they will root easily. August is anything but dormant, so probably won't be happening. I might try and sneak over there in the next week or two, it's a bit of a drive but the grapes will be ready to pick by then and if the house is still empty, why not? Other than the obvious reasons why not of course!
Do you know what kind of clematis it was?
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 02:44 PM (kNElV)
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Thanks for the tips Tammy, I'm not sure what variety of clematis but it blooms in the early spring with large deep purple blooms. Very pretty, my MIL planted these years ago on the side of the house and none of us remembered they were there until the very last minute before we had to vacate the place. So I did get some rooting powder and dip the ends in that before putting them in water. It's so late that the stems are rather woody though :-(
The grapes I think are a lost cause, everything I've read online says to take cuttings during the dormant season and they will root easily. August is anything but dormant, so probably won't be happening. I might try and sneak over there in the next week or two, it's a bit of a drive but the grapes will be ready to pick by then and if the house is still empty, why not? Other than the obvious reasons why not of course!
Posted by: Boots at August 29, 2020 04:44 PM (oGBso)
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Rose of sharon is a [bear] to eradicate from hedges. You let your hedge go for a coupla years and there'll be several shrubs in there. Let it go five years and the rose of sharon and maple saplings will be fighting for dominance. Very easy to tell which of my neighbors don't do anything other than trimming their hedge.
Posted by: Otto Zilch at August 29, 2020 04:54 PM (U2esv)
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Well then it's my first garden leopard frog then.
Got my 27 year old string trimmer going but ran out of string after almost a hour.
Got my 27 year old string trimmer going but ran out of string after almost a hour.
Posted by: Skip at August 29, 2020 04:56 PM (OjZpE)
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Hi, Boots
I took late-summer cuttings of clematis a few years ago:
Dipped in rooting hormone powder, then potted them in half-sand/ half-peatmoss mixture. Multiple pots, sitting in a shallow plastic tub & kept outdoors in the shade with a (vented!) clear plastic bag over them. (I used #1 pots-- they are about 6" dia x 7" tall-- so they would not need repotting before final transplanting.)
I cut off the growing tips of those cuttings, so could be certain of *new* growth when it appeared. Took several weeks. Then removed plastic bag.
Moved the entire mess indoors for that first winter, by a south-facing window. Back to outdoors the following late Spring and they've been outside ever since.
After 3 (4?) years, there are 4 survivors from the 2 dozen or so initial cuttings. But of course my garden efforts have been haphazard at best, and the plants are still in their pots.
Good luck! If I can do this, anyone can do it.
I took late-summer cuttings of clematis a few years ago:
Dipped in rooting hormone powder, then potted them in half-sand/ half-peatmoss mixture. Multiple pots, sitting in a shallow plastic tub & kept outdoors in the shade with a (vented!) clear plastic bag over them. (I used #1 pots-- they are about 6" dia x 7" tall-- so they would not need repotting before final transplanting.)
I cut off the growing tips of those cuttings, so could be certain of *new* growth when it appeared. Took several weeks. Then removed plastic bag.
Moved the entire mess indoors for that first winter, by a south-facing window. Back to outdoors the following late Spring and they've been outside ever since.
After 3 (4?) years, there are 4 survivors from the 2 dozen or so initial cuttings. But of course my garden efforts have been haphazard at best, and the plants are still in their pots.
Good luck! If I can do this, anyone can do it.
Posted by: JQ at August 29, 2020 05:06 PM (whOIk)
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I'm growing mild peppers this year. 2 poblano and 4 jalapeno anaheim, I guess (?). Got a late start, so none are ready to pick yet.
The "jalapeno" don't look like jalapeno: instead, they are long, tapered and curved.
That's what I get for buying plants instead of starting my own from seed... sigh...
The "jalapeno" don't look like jalapeno: instead, they are long, tapered and curved.
That's what I get for buying plants instead of starting my own from seed... sigh...
Posted by: JQ at August 29, 2020 05:16 PM (whOIk)
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Hello JT,
Thanks for the advice on the clematis, once upon a time I was focused like a laser on outdoor gardening AND had a houseful of indoor plants. I kept notebooks of what I was doing, what worked, all that good stuff. Then life got busy in a good way :-)
I might experiment with a couple of the clematis and pot them up like you did. Right now they are on the back (enclosed) porch with the windows open, facing north. The leaves are still green after more than a week in water so still alive I guess. But the stems are very woody and brittle.
Thanks for the advice on the clematis, once upon a time I was focused like a laser on outdoor gardening AND had a houseful of indoor plants. I kept notebooks of what I was doing, what worked, all that good stuff. Then life got busy in a good way :-)
I might experiment with a couple of the clematis and pot them up like you did. Right now they are on the back (enclosed) porch with the windows open, facing north. The leaves are still green after more than a week in water so still alive I guess. But the stems are very woody and brittle.
Posted by: Boots at August 29, 2020 05:35 PM (oGBso)
Posted by: Boots at August 29, 2020 05:35 PM (oGBso)
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Tomaytos have their uses. I dislike tomahtos.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 29, 2020 05:44 PM (KAi1n)
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Boots, I don't know if very woody stems will root but it's always worth a try.
The cuttings I took were very firm, but definitely current year's growth and not yet woody. "Half-ripe" is the term for it.
I had previously tried early spring cuttings, very soft and green, with zero success in either water or soil.
The cuttings I took were very firm, but definitely current year's growth and not yet woody. "Half-ripe" is the term for it.
I had previously tried early spring cuttings, very soft and green, with zero success in either water or soil.
Posted by: JQ at August 29, 2020 05:47 PM (whOIk)
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My lunch today (a nearly 2pm lunch) was grass-fed beef (unfortunately not that kind of grass), cooked up in pan with mushrooms (not those kinds either), onions, spinach, refried black beans, and cheese. It was more a nutritive lunch although it dint taste bad.
Posted by: SFGoth at August 29, 2020 05:47 PM (KAi1n)
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JQ - that's surprising that spring green cuttings would not root. I'm hoping to get some rooting at the junction of leaves to the woody stems. The leaf junction is soft and green and obviously this year's growth.
Well, it's fun to have lots of hobbies, and if I can get some or even just one of my late MIL's plants to root and grow, it will be a happy day here at Chez Boots.
Well, it's fun to have lots of hobbies, and if I can get some or even just one of my late MIL's plants to root and grow, it will be a happy day here at Chez Boots.
Posted by: Boots at August 29, 2020 06:10 PM (oGBso)
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Thank you for posting my tomato picture. We have more ripening but not quite that big. I started the plant from seed. When I transferred it into my garden I dug the hole with a post hole digger, added a fish head from a fish that my husband had caught, some crushed egg shells, coffee grounds and a splash of fish emulsion. Planted it up to it's first leaves and added good compost.
Posted by: S.Lynn at August 29, 2020 07:22 PM (2Kb6M)
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Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 03:01 PM
Richard Nixon's aunt put ice on her peonies in California in the winter. Festiva Maxima is one of the lower-chill varieties of peony.
Richard Nixon's aunt put ice on her peonies in California in the winter. Festiva Maxima is one of the lower-chill varieties of peony.
Posted by: KT at August 29, 2020 07:25 PM (BVQ+1)
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Richard Nixon's aunt put ice on her peonies in California in the winter.
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KT that is such a cool bit of trivia, thank you!
And Krebs, the agastache is Blue Fortune, NOT Blue Heron.
Blue Heron is a corydalis, spring bloomer, though if you're lucky it will bloom again in Fall. The blue is almost neon, such a great shade plant if you can keep it alive. (I tend to let mine dry up) Columbine-like foliage, too.
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KT that is such a cool bit of trivia, thank you!
And Krebs, the agastache is Blue Fortune, NOT Blue Heron.
Blue Heron is a corydalis, spring bloomer, though if you're lucky it will bloom again in Fall. The blue is almost neon, such a great shade plant if you can keep it alive. (I tend to let mine dry up) Columbine-like foliage, too.
Posted by: Tammy al-Thor at August 29, 2020 08:09 PM (Z+Hum)
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Most current puttering issue is: yellowjacket nest in one of my planter boxes on the deck! B*stards get agitated every time I water the other plants nearby, although I haven't been stung *yet*. (They're on one side of that planter, so I only water the opposite side. Poor plant, it's only just surviving.)
Have been trying to eradicate them for over a week--
Spraying at night-- wasted 3 cans of wasp/hornet spray so far!
Got frustrated today and just flooded the planter for several minutes with heavy stream of water. Had to flip the spray toward several attackers, lol, but again did not get stung. Not very bright, I know, but I'm just sick of them and have declared WAR.
After they calmed a bit, I sprinkled a cup of Borax into their top entrance. The other entrance is under the planter, so can't plug it or sprinkle anything there.
Almost ready to grab a cup of gas... almost. I hear it's more effective if one *does not* add the match, haha. Can't do that anyway, planter is right next to the house and is too large to move.
Have been trying to eradicate them for over a week--
Spraying at night-- wasted 3 cans of wasp/hornet spray so far!
Got frustrated today and just flooded the planter for several minutes with heavy stream of water. Had to flip the spray toward several attackers, lol, but again did not get stung. Not very bright, I know, but I'm just sick of them and have declared WAR.
After they calmed a bit, I sprinkled a cup of Borax into their top entrance. The other entrance is under the planter, so can't plug it or sprinkle anything there.
Almost ready to grab a cup of gas... almost. I hear it's more effective if one *does not* add the match, haha. Can't do that anyway, planter is right next to the house and is too large to move.
Posted by: JQ at August 29, 2020 08:11 PM (whOIk)
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Fluctuating soil moisture cause those thick tough ridges.
Posted by: Chick Moldonado at August 29, 2020 10:01 PM (9NcUG)
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Rose of Sharron is what its called in this part of the Ozarks.
Posted by: James R. McKenna at August 30, 2020 08:10 AM (2d1IY)
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Thanks for all the answers on the Rose of Sharon. I debating clearing a spot and planting now or waiting until spring. I'm in South Jersey. Maybe I'll knock and ask if I can get a clipping. Thanks again!
Posted by: JerseyDevilRider at August 30, 2020 08:13 AM (XEfn8)
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JerseyDevilRider at August 30, 2020 08:13 AM
It might be the seedless (or almost seedless) variety 'Helena'.
https://tinyurl.com/y3g7ecaz
If you are interested in other colors, Proven Winners seems to be putting out some new seedless Rose of Sharon varieties.
This is a pretty one. I also like the older pure white "Diana", which stays open later into the evening.
https://tinyurl.com/yyro78nm
It might be the seedless (or almost seedless) variety 'Helena'.
https://tinyurl.com/y3g7ecaz
If you are interested in other colors, Proven Winners seems to be putting out some new seedless Rose of Sharon varieties.
This is a pretty one. I also like the older pure white "Diana", which stays open later into the evening.
https://tinyurl.com/yyro78nm
Posted by: KT at August 30, 2020 11:02 AM (BVQ+1)
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Great diet recipe , toast 2 sara lee diet whole wheat bread (45 calories per slice, as opposed to 60)
Butter one toast put garden tomato slices on , sprinkle garlic salt on to tomato, be generous, put mayo on other slice of toast. Yum heavenly & surprisingly filling. I have 1 and half sandwich per night for supper along with chix BROTH. Very yummy & satisfying. Been eating this almost constantly , pants now looser!
Butter one toast put garden tomato slices on , sprinkle garlic salt on to tomato, be generous, put mayo on other slice of toast. Yum heavenly & surprisingly filling. I have 1 and half sandwich per night for supper along with chix BROTH. Very yummy & satisfying. Been eating this almost constantly , pants now looser!
Posted by: Mary Gold at August 30, 2020 01:05 PM (biJit)
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