Poll: Trump's Job Approval With Hispanics Rises in 2020

With the November presidential election less than 100 days away, what does this mean for Hispanic Americans' views of President Trump?
Even though Hispanic Americans tend to have less favorable views of Trump than Americans in general, surprisingly, their views of Trump have become somewhat more favorable in 2020. Data from the American Values Atlas (AVA) shows that throughout 2019, on average, 28% of Hispanic Americans viewed Trump favorably, compared to 41% of all Americans. In 2020 so far, more than one-third (36%) of Hispanic Americans view Trump favorably, a significant increase from 2019.

Trump's approval rating with Hispanics is, as Trump might say, "Not the best. Really not great."

But his approval rating with Hispanics was worse in 2016, and he won that election, even if the unhinged left and former Republicans-turned-hyperpartisan-liberals won't accept the results of that election.

Democrats need minorities to vote hugely for them. They can't do with split decisions from Hispanics.

Most of Trump's improved ratings come from Protestant Hispanics, which are only 23% of Hispanics. But even among Catholic Hispanics (49% of all Hispanics), his ratings have gone up slightly.

Speaking of polling and voting: a friend floated a very counter-intuitive idea to me.

Many people are abandoning California in droves. The geek vlogger Nerdorotic says there is a 2-3 month wait on renting moving trucks in the San Francisco area; he had to drive 90 minutes outside of town to get a free one.

People are worried -- rightly -- that these people fleeing from blue areas will immediately vote blue and turn their new homes into shitholes indistinguishable from the last shithole they made.

Now, this does seem to have happened in Nevada, where liberal Californians infested the place and turned it first purple and then blue.

And it happened in Virginia.

But my friend thinks in other places, immigration from one state to another may be increasing the conservative vote share in the states immigrated to.

Here's his thoughts:

I think a huge aspect of this election is being completely ignored and no one is attempting to report on it.
I *think* it's a big Trump advantage, but I could be wrong.
We are witnessing one of the largest internal migration events in American history, in an incredibly narrow window of time. To complicate matters, people who move still have their old cellphone numbers associated with their previous area codes, so polling catches very little of this.
There's no way this doesn't have some effect on the election.
If we look at previous migration patterns in recent history, particularly because of political self-sorting, this generally a net benefit to Republicans on the electoral map.
The common belief here is that California -> Texas migration, for example, is "turning Texas blue". It isn't. It's keeping it red. The people that make that move are right-leaning by about a 2-to-1 ratio.
Beto *won* native Texans in his race.
It was the [state-to-state] migration that boosted Republicans. Same thing is happening in Florida, and I think the outmigration from Chicago is going to be a boost to Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan.
I used to really worry about how blue state to red state migration would ruin the political makeup of red states. But it really doesn't. Because the people more motivated to move generally share our politics.
What happens is it leaves reliably blue states even more blue.
Just look at California. You can't even get a Republican on a ballot out there anymore.
...
A really good example of this phenomenon is New Hampshire. The thinking was that all the Massholes were hopping the border and starting to vote blue. That wasn't the case. Mass and CT voters, skewing heavily red, hopped the border and allowed the state to continue to be reasonably competitive. It was the NH natives in the northern counties who started voting more and more Democrat, matching the rest of the region.

Anyway, if this pattern holds for the crazy migration we've seen in the past 6 months, that's probably a big plus for us...
I would bet that an overwhelming majority of those people are ideological allies.
The most common comment I see from [people immigrating to red states] is something along the lines of "I finally have an excuse to escape this stupid state"
I would bet that an overwhelming majority of those people are ideological allies.

This 2013 article buttresses his claim that California-to-Texas migration is generally conservative.

With its economic troubles, California has been losing people in droves. The plurality of those migrants have moved to Texas, as many as 70,000 in 2011 and 60,000 in 2012. Given this influx of new residents, we are fortunate to have at times asked our respondents whether they have moved to Texas from California, and though the actual number of these people is but a small subsample of our surveys, we have enough respondents to make two broad conclusions. First, these newcomers, on average, tend to be conservative. Pooling data from the May 2012 and February 2013 UT/Tribune surveys, we found that 57 percent of these California transplants consider themselves to be conservative, while only 27 percent consider themselves to be liberal (a fair guess as to the margin of error is somewhere around +/- 7 percentage points). Second, these new Texans aren’t rushing to find homes in the state's urban centers: 55 percent are heading to the suburbs, the rest evenly dividing themselves between rural and urban locations.
So while some may want to perceive the wave of Californians coming to Texas as part of the broader demographic trends that might eventually turn Texas purple, and then blue, the data collected to date suggest that Perry's pitch appears to be hitting a chord with Californians who wear cowboy boots instead of Birkenstocks.

And this 2018 article says that Beto O'Rourke, shockingly, did win a majority of native Texans, while recent immigrants to the state gave Ted Cruz the win.

A CNN exit poll showed that O'Rourke beat Cruz among native Texans, 51 percent to 48 percent. In contrast, 57 percent of people who had moved to Texas said they voted for Cruz, compared to 42 percent who voted for O'Rourke.

Cruz prevailed Tuesday night, beating his opponent by just 2.6 percentage points. It's the closest Senate race in Texas since 1978.

I don't mind the idea of all conservative/productive people fleeing these shitholes and leaving dying blue husks behind.

It'll make the inevitable division of the country that much easier, and that much more inevitable.

Interesting stuff. I hope he's right.

Posted by: Ace at 06:06 PM

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1 el meepo!!!

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:06 PM (W2Pud)

2 I don't know how to say motherfuckinghampsterfuckers en espanol

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:06 PM (W2Pud)

3 Until I hear otherwise, I'm going to assume this is racist.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2020 06:07 PM (t+qrx)

4 There's Protestant Hispanics?

Get the fuck outta here.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2020 06:08 PM (XTyi0)

5 Caliente!

Posted by: Guy that beat the en fuego guy by saying Caliente at August 21, 2020 06:08 PM (vMCab)

6 It's the Economy stupis! is not an idle phrase, and the Trump economy is real and he is not getting the blame for the downturn. The Democrats have not grasped this fact.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:09 PM (bCLt0)

7 terp tern

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2020 06:09 PM (XTyi0)

8 Yo top ten

Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home. Thanks China &&&& at August 21, 2020 06:09 PM (rucgX)

9 Willowed:

Scored some 380 thru AmmoMan.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 21, 2020 06:03 PM

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I
have a metric crap ton of .380 on the shelf. I don't shoot it anymore
and I only have my Glock 42 in .380 which I never take out to shoot
anymore.

It was my EDC gun in the 2 years after I destroyed
my shoulder and went through surgery and physical therapy. It was about
the most recoil I could handle through that period. Now I carry a 9mm
Sig.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 21, 2020 06:08 PM

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 21, 2020 06:09 PM (JUOKG)

10 The Democrats have not grasped this fact.
Posted by: tubal

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We deal in truth, not facts!

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (bPH26)

11 Not the worst news we've had lately !

Posted by: Adriane the Wouldn't Pick a Pocket Critic ... at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (LPnfS)

12 4 There's Protestant Hispanics?

Get the fuck outta here.
Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2020 06:08 PM (XTyi0)

Oh yeah, believe it.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (bCLt0)

13 Honestly, if it weren't for various forms of fraud I think the Democrats would already be reduced to a rump regional party.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (yQpMk)

14 Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 21, 2020 06:08 PM
Posted by: Mr. Scott

might I make an offer on some of your .380?

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:11 PM (W2Pud)

15 Damn, read the whole thing and I've got to say ... It's people with jobs and motivation that leave first.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 21, 2020 06:11 PM (qZdIZ)

16 Honestly, if it weren't for various forms of fraud I think the Democrats would already be reduced to a rump regional party.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (yQpMk)
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It's interesting that the Pacific Northwest went sharply blue right about when mail-in voting became the norm.

Coincidence?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:12 PM (cfSRQ)

17 13 Honestly, if it weren't for various forms of fraud I think the Democrats would already be reduced to a rump regional party.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (yQpMk)

Absolutely agree. A party for the disaffected, those with daddy issues, and those with the Inner Stalin itching to get out.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:12 PM (bCLt0)

18 Maybe your friend is right. Maybe he's whistling past the graveyard. Ask those in Colorado what happened.
The asterisk there is that Colorado happened over a long period of time, so the locust theory makes more sense.
What's happening now seems more like an exodus.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 21, 2020 06:12 PM (z79tQ)

19 Ace, I think your friend is correct.

I read somewhere the migration to Idaho from CA has been mostly white conservatives.

Heck, my wife and I may be part of that migration.

More than a few conservatives from my neck of the woods have fled to TX.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:12 PM (WEBkv)

20 Trump's approval rating rises during the Democrat convention? The Democrats are in trouble then.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 21, 2020 06:12 PM (cZjDV)

21 >>Honestly, if it weren't for various forms of fraud I think the Democrats would already be reduced to a rump regional party.

Think how bad hey would be doing without the media acting as their PR arm.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

22 I have read that Hispanic men and black men like Trump's swagger. His "alpha-ness". This can't hurt.

Posted by: jmel at August 21, 2020 06:13 PM (bVhJi)

23 I've been saying since the BLM thing started that people largely have been ignoring how poorly this is playing with Hispanics. Even the liberal ones are angry because they're getting shoved way down the progressive stack by both blacks and LGBTQ now.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 21, 2020 06:13 PM (6XLoz)

24 California must completely collapse before anything can/will change. Illinois same same. A bunch of cities contained therein, also.

Posted by: klaftern at August 21, 2020 06:14 PM (RuIsu)

25 Trump's approval rating rises during the Democrat convention? The Democrats are in trouble then.
Posted by: Mikey NTH

Interesting ain't it?

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2020 06:14 PM (XTyi0)

26 Good data as always Ace.

Can I call you Data?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 21, 2020 06:14 PM (pB6Gt)

27 21 >>Honestly, if it weren't for various forms of fraud I think the Democrats would already be reduced to a rump regional party.

Think how bad hey would be doing without the media acting as their PR arm.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

Good point. The Right is essentially reduced to a corner of the Internet for information.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:14 PM (bCLt0)

28 have a metric crap ton of .380 on the shelf. I don't shoot it anymore and I only have my Glock 42 in .380 which I never take out to shoot anymore.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 21, 2020 06:09 PM (JUOKG)

I want to take up a collection for Morons who have recently picked up .380s, but I don't know how much shipping costs. I only have 100 rounds of ball, but I'll never use it. I'd be happy to set up a donation bin at the NoVAMoMe for ammo rehoming (you can bring up to 11 pounds of ammo in original boxes in checked baggage). The hard part is getting addresses of needy recipients (i.e. they just got one and it's the only gun they have) and figuring out the logistics, and packaging it and taking it to the UPS hub, and sending it out.

*lights cigarette, sits back*

I'm just the ideas guy.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 21, 2020 06:14 PM (t+qrx)

29 People who flee a blue State hell to a red State and then vote for the same shit they were fleeing are called locusts. Like the locust swarms of old after devastating a field of crops go to new one and devastate it too. The only defense against this is to increase drastically the in State time required to vote. And yes, quite a few of these locusts from places like NY are doing just that.

Posted by: Vic at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (mpXpK)

30 For your own good, never ever vote for a democrat again. Ever.

Posted by: RICO aka msm/dnc/bureaucracy...and now, judiciary at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (jV+aN)

31
Oh yeah, believe it.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:10 PM (bCLt0)

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I'd also hazard that the Catholic Hispanics are in large measure 'cultural Catholics' like Biden and Pelosi who go to mass purely out of habit.

It's more an ethnic identity than a faith, just as it was with the Irish and Italians.

Again, Biden and Pelosi are classic examples.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (cfSRQ)

32 Despite Trump having called them all rapists and murderers?

/

Posted by: ShainS at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (t/8pF)

33 Nope, still voting for physical removal from my state.

Posted by: 🛌 at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (G2Zg6)

34 22 I have read that Hispanic men and black men like Trump's swagger. His "alpha-ness". This can't hurt.
Posted by: jmel at August 21, 2020 06:13 PM (bVhJi)

El jefe Trump es muy macho!!

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (bCLt0)

35 >>Good point. The Right is essentially reduced to a corner of the Internet for information.

If Trump got Obama's media coverage he'd be winning by double digits even in the fake polls.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)

36 ot
but doesn't this guy look like a SMERSH thug?

https://twitter.com/vm20201/status/
1296933812409176065

Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (J8nVw)

37 California transplants to Austin are liberal and will remain liberal.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (2DOZq)

38 These people moving to red States are probably hard workers.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (pB6Gt)

39 Maybe the Hispanic Citizens are looking and hearing about what is going on South of the Border?

Mexico and the Cartels, Central America and MS-13, Venezuela? Any of those should scare a rational person.

Half the Hispanic Citizens were pro border wall and tough on immigration. They were ignored by the open borders factions in both parties, because cheap labor!

Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 06:17 PM (+0uDE)

40 Trump's approval rating rises during the Democrat convention? The Democrats are in trouble then.

Posted by: Mikey NTH

Interesting ain't it?

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2020 06:14 PM (XTyi0)

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If the GOP experienced a "negative bounce" the networks would be carrying it non-stop.

Watch what they do, not what they say. The top-tier Dems know Trump is going to crush Biden. That's why they're already screaming about a stolen election.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:17 PM (cfSRQ)

41 I've been saying this about transplants for a while.

It makes more sense that conservatives would flee progressive hellholes than progressives, and in greater numbers.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:17 PM (UWqZJ)

42 37 California transplants to Austin are liberal and will remain liberal.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (2DOZq)

Birds of a feather and all.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:17 PM (bCLt0)

43 37 California transplants to Austin are liberal and will remain liberal.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (2DOZq)

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So, you're saying that progressives tend to move towards progressive places instead of conservative places?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:18 PM (UWqZJ)

44 Oh yeah, implied in the article about white flight to Idaho was they are a bunch of white separatists along the lines of Randy Weaver.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:18 PM (WEBkv)

45 Drove past my old house a few days ago - sold it to a big Mexican extended family - big Trump banner stretched across the yard fence in front.

I still have a 312 area code phone even though I live in Wisconsin, had that same number for over 20 years, not going to lose all the people who know they can get me at that number.

In other news, driving through LaCrosse yesterday, saw the 3rd and 4th biden yard signs we've seen this year ... even in that blue city, outnumbered by Trump signs 5 or 6 times.

This has been your Anecdata From the Heartland minute !

Beer O'Clock ! Yay !
also an ice-cold shot of Field Notes locally-distilled vodka, both organic and gluten-free, lol.
Nice clean taste, though; good stuff.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at August 21, 2020 06:19 PM (vMGcs)

46 Yeah, but the mexican judge or something!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 06:19 PM (jcBGX)

47 Has Joe Biden given his acceptance speech in Spanglish yet?

Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb! at August 21, 2020 06:19 PM (Z+IKu)

48 I have no doubt that Hispanics are not happy with the BLM shit
but do they vote?

Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 06:19 PM (J8nVw)

49 These people moving to red States are probably hard workers.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (pB6Gt)

My wife and I were talking about thieves and how hard they work at some of their scores, and how much easier it would be if they put that energy into an honest line of work.
So hard workers... meh.

Posted by: OneEyedJack at August 21, 2020 06:19 PM (z79tQ)

50 Not for nothing did I personally emigrate to a Conservative part of a Conservative State. I wanted like minded people around me.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:19 PM (bCLt0)

51 35 >>Good point. The Right is essentially reduced to a corner of the Internet for information.

If Trump got Obama's media coverage he'd be winning by double digits even in the fake polls.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)
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If Trump simply got neutral coverage, as opposed to the not stop felatio that JugEars got, he'd be up by 30 points.

Posted by: Bonecrusher at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (hrRsI)

52 If Trump got Obama's media coverage he'd be winning by double digits even in the fake polls.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)
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PDT's numbers remain good, despite the best efforts of the DNC/Media Axis.

Amazing, isn't it?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (WEBkv)

53 Leftist move to a non Leftist area to live off the non Leftists until they vote in their Leftists .

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (OjZpE)

54 I wish the above were true about NH.

I live here. It isn't true. Of the six houses that sold on my street the past two years, all have been purchased by Massachusetts residents. Two of them immediately held home fundraisers for Democrats (who want to abolish the second amendment and institute an income tax).

I don't hold out any hope that after having conversations with the others that they vote any differently here than they did in MA.

I wish I was wrong.

Posted by: squeakywheel at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (N3Fwu)

55 I moved from NY to NC. But I was from upstate, everyone who could left. But I do think my Lefty friends and fam went to the big City or to Mass., whereas the more conservative folks went down south and the oldies to Florida.

Hell, those migrating retired folk are the only reason we keep winning Florida.

Posted by: Quiet at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (P0MsZ)

56 54 I wish the above were true about NH.

I live here. It isn't true. Of the six houses that sold on my street the past two years, all have been purchased by Massachusetts residents. Two of them immediately held home fundraisers for Democrats (who want to abolish the second amendment and institute an income tax).

I don't hold out any hope that after having conversations with the others that they vote any differently here than they did in MA.

I wish I was wrong.
Posted by: squeakywheel at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (N3Fwu)

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Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (UWqZJ)

57 1 el meepo!!!
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:06 PM (W2Pud)

Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (J8nVw)

58 I think this theory is correct

Here in Northern Nevada, 10-20 years ago we got the liberal influx from a California which turned our state purple/blue. Of course California was a different place just a decade ago. Now it truly is a shithole and the sane Californians are getting out. They see where the progressives are taking that state.

NV has a lot of Independents and voted in a bunch of Dems two years ago. Only the Sec of State if Republican.

Most of the transplant Californians I meet now seem more conservative. They see what has happened to Cali so they sell their shack for $1 million and move here with cash to buy. Housing prices have skyrocketed in the last few years. They are usually retired for kid who just want to live a nice life and not pay 1/2 of there income to their tyrannical State.

Illegal immigration has also helped turn this state purple/blue, but Mexicans are being deported. And the Unions in Vegas control that city., unfortunately. But Sisolak, the Horrible Dem Governor has pissed off many Nevadans with his shutdown. Trump could win here. Now we just have to defeat the Vote by Mail fiasco.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (haWye)

59 #43 The James Madison - it is remarkable that people would migrate to places that are culturally and personally comfortable - segregating themselves as it were.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (cZjDV)

60 I AM CURRENTLY ACCEPTING .380 ACP
please to be emailing for all modalities

Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (J8nVw)

61 53 Leftist move to a non Leftist area to live off the non Leftists until they vote in their Leftists .
Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2020 06:20 PM (OjZpE)

When or f they move into your area never, ever, eveer elect the bastards to ANY office. They are cancers. I have seen them metastisize in a community.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (bCLt0)

62 Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (UWqZJ)
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Actually, moving from Central CA to TX isn't much of a move, ideologically speaking.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (WEBkv)

63 I live in one of the bluest of blues states. My governor is Murphy. When I go, and it will be soon, I will take my red vote to a red state. Murphy told me to leave. I have one kid left in a local college so I'm sort of stuck. I know some say I could go, but it's a little complex. I will. My wife wants out more. It's a shame. As places go NJ ain't bad. The shore, the Poconos. If Philly and NYC weren't such crap holes we'd have good places to go for a show/sports/etc. Buy the way I live in a separate state, called South Jersey. :-)

Posted by: JerseyDevilRider at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (XEfn8)

64 If i took the time to immigrate from mexico the legal way, i would not be happy with the democrats lionizing the cheaters.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (jcBGX)

65 43 37 California transplants to Austin are liberal and will remain liberal.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:16 PM (2DOZq)

True. but a friend of My Daughters just moved about 40 miles from Austin and they are very Conservative.. Her Mom and Dad are moving there too and so are they

Posted by: It's me donna now a deranged bigot at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (Zmnko)

66 More macho? Ricardo Montalban? Fernando Lamas?

Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (X/Pw5)

67
TheJamesMadison
Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.
**
It used to mean something to move from CT or MA to NH. My point is that it doesn't, now. Live Free or Die is a joke.

Posted by: squeakywheel at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (N3Fwu)

68 Willowed sort of

Mr. Scott, I remember reading that our friend and moron thathalfrican has been having a terrible time finding 380 for his new purchase. I don't like to get into anyone's business so forgive me if I'm overstepping my station with you or him.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Brake lights matter at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (wwq+l)

69 why isn't Tuna Finger Bidet up 50 Points you may ask

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (mrA4z)

70 I hear a lot of people are moving out of California due to Prometheus.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (EY68y)

71 Slow Joe was watched by 38% less the Donnie 2 scoops in 2016

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at August 21, 2020 06:24 PM (mrA4z)

72 The perennial yet not very documented discussion here.

Anecdata tells me that 100% of the people I know who have fled/are planning to flee CA are scary racist right-wing death beasts, Trump voters, bigly. Most of them gun nuts. To NV, AZ, TX, ID. No exceptions, not a Coastal Clueless "lib" among them.

And ace I'm not so sure about NV. NV Morons might be able to correct me, but Clark County has a Dem/labor union machine that now has taken over the state. Don't know if any of that has to do with CA in-migration.

Guys I know who fled to AZ are now somewhat in despair - their governor is a disaster, and the AZ GOP may be the most useless in the country, a weird mix of family machines and 1970s country-clubber-mindset. Gunz are off-limits, but little else seems to be (AZ has among the most incompetent and dishonest and irresponsible public health departments, as demo'd during the current national debacle - a very, very, very high bar).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:24 PM (OTzUX)

73 I hear a lot of people are moving out of California due to Prometheus.

We're out of here as soon as we can arrange it... Daughter and Family too... Probably Idaho

Posted by: It's me donna now a deranged bigot at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (Zmnko)

74 It's been my personal experience here in NC that even conservative locusts tend to be left leaning. I have no problem admitting that was my biggest concern about Trump.

Posted by: Charles Darwin - Brake lights matter at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (wwq+l)

75 Montana is not getting any more Red.

The way to purge the Blue from your State is to get the Universities Purged.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (0ni2j)

76 Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (UWqZJ)

Spend some time in New England and you will realize that there are tremendously disparate areas.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (xT2tT)

77 Florida seems to be trending red - not the other way - as more Northeasterners flee to the Sunshine state. I fled from Austin to a more conservative community a few years ago. There seems to be an accelerating self-segregation of people by political identity. For conservatives who are now openly targeted in blue areas with the promise of unpoliced left-wing violence, it makes sense to uproot sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (d9Cw3)

78 43 The James Madison - it is remarkable that people would migrate to places that are culturally and personally comfortable - segregating themselves as it were.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Boo Hoo? You Do! Pity Party Supplies at The Outrage Outlet! at August 21, 2020 06:22 PM (cZjDV)

You and smartass JM must be unaware that Austin is our Silicon Valley and most transplants are work related so it's not a matter of choice.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (2DOZq)

79 Anecdote - my buddy moved his family from the Bay Area in California to outside Charlotte, NC last year. They're Catholic and couldn't even talk about their religion in public because they'd be accosted. Add in that they could buy, outright, a 4,000 square foot house with the gains from their 1,200 square foot townhouse (which having a yard has been a huge blessing during these times).

ZERO chance they vote anything other than straight Republican ticket this year.

Trump votes:
-2 California (going blue no matter who)
+2 NC (swingish state)

Posted by: Memories at August 21, 2020 06:26 PM (mwcEF)

80 If not already said... shipping ammo without proper docs is stupid. Like jail stupid. Federal jail stupid.

However... meet 'n greets are A-OK.

Have a nice lunch. Maybe a beer or wine. Oh, by the way here's the 1000 rounds of .223 you bought.

Latte?

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2020 06:26 PM (3H9h1)

81 On migrations: This was discussed back in 2004.

The book on that is The Big Sort: Why the Clustering of Like-Minded America is Tearing Us Apart by Bill Bishop was published in 2009.

The truth is out there. The Left are internal barbarians these days.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:26 PM (hyuyC)

82 Sometimes it sounds like the whole damned country is turning into Lebanon, or Yugoslavia.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:26 PM (bCLt0)

83 76 Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (UWqZJ)

Spend some time in New England and you will realize that there are tremendously disparate areas.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (xT2tT)

==========

I have no doubts to the differences in culture, but you're still only a few hours drive from the places and people you knew and the weather is similar.

As opposed to moving from Southern California to the heat plains of Texas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:26 PM (UWqZJ)

84 Caliente is TIGHT!

Posted by: The Miklos Pitch Guy at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (QzkSJ)

85 How could native Texans vote for Beto? Wow!

Posted by: JerseyDevilRider at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (XEfn8)

86 Live Free or Die is a joke.

Posted by: squeakywheel at August 21, 2020 06:23 PM (N3Fwu)

The cities are beginning to dominate, but rural New England is still pretty different than Boston or New Haven or Hartford.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (xT2tT)

87 I've been saying this for months. Those that are Lefties may move out of a city, but they don't go far. They like the policies. Conservatives are moving as far away as possible.

I follow a blog of a guy that moved his whole family out of Southern Californai two years ago. He's a conservative gun guy. One set of comments had four people from WA state planning to leave. And I see comments from Californians in other posts, talking about leaving. We all have no say in our states. There is one party only and no way to get them out of office. It will only get worse so we are moving as far away as we can get from it.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (YynYJ)

88 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (GIeIM)

89 I would still like an answer as to how a University Student can be allowed to Vote Locally when they are forced to pay Out of State Tuition.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (0ni2j)

90 "Surprisingly" LOL.
And even in spite of Trump giving them all covid, LOL.
Turns out people of all skin colors like jobs and prosperity and positive thinking.

Posted by: PJ at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (qlTN9)

91 Guys I know who fled to AZ are now somewhat in despair - their governor is a disaster, and the AZ GOP may be the most useless in the country, a weird mix of family machines and 1970s country-clubber-mindset. Gunz are off-limits, but little else seems to be (AZ has among the most incompetent and dishonest and irresponsible public health departments, as demo'd during the current national debacle - a very, very, very high bar).

The only place I truly want to move to and now I'm doubting it's smart move.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:28 PM (dUJdY)

92 Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (UWqZJ

I agree with that because of housing cost and taxes.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:28 PM (2DOZq)

93 How could native Texans vote for Beto? Wow!

Vote fraud in Houston and Austin?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2020 06:29 PM (oVJmc)

94 >>The way to purge the Blue from your State is to get the Universities Purged.

That's been a big problem for Massachusetts for years. Students check in and they never check out.

And that doesn't include all the professors like Squaw Warren.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:29 PM (ZLI7S)

95 Czech Chick, I have NV as second or third mostly like Trump pick-up this cycle (after NH, MN). Very doable.

My impression, partly buttressed by direct info from somebody who lives in Clark County, is that much of the Dem machine vote there is "culturally conservative" - they're middle and working class, not suburban libs, not even close. One reason Trump did well there last time, and may well win it this time.

A steady stream of firearms businesses has left SoCal, I know several that relocated to northern NV. These people are, obviously, not turning NV "purple" or "blue".

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:29 PM (OTzUX)

96 Re: Cruz

The highest, and best, use for Ted Cruz is on the Supreme Court.

He'll never be president - and I say that having voted for him in the CA primary over DJT. I think of a single piece of legislation that he's championed in the Senate, other than some bipartisan piece of nonsense that went nowhere, I think. While Cornyn will win his seat in a cakewalk, Cruz will have trouble keeping his next time when some Beto II Electric Boogaloo Dem gets tons of outside money to run against him again.

I like the guy, but it seems like none of his colleagues and fewer of his constituents like him for some reason that I can't fathom.

Someone needs to get to him and tell him what the future really holds for the guy if he holds onto this aspiration of his, and when Trump offers him a seat (again), he needs to accept.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (6xA3t)

97 What I'd like to know is why a lot of Texans kind of hate Cruz so much. Not all of them, but of course leftists, a big part of the middle and a good number of Republicans. Is it his show boating? Does he not bring home the bacon? Leftover animosity regarding him vs. Trump? General anti-incumbency?

Posted by: banana Dream at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (l6b3d)

98 WLNSSEODQY.

Posted by: Winston Wolfe at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (DMUuz)

99 Guys I know who fled to AZ are now somewhat in despair - their governor is a disaster, and the AZ GOP may be the most useless in the country, a weird mix of family machines and 1970s country-clubber-mindset. Gunz are off-limits, but little else seems to be (AZ has among the most incompetent and dishonest and irresponsible public health departments, as demo'd during the current national debacle - a very, very, very high bar).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:24 PM (OTzUX)
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What's really sad is the AZ GOP legislature had no problem reigning in Janet Napolitano when she was governor.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (WEBkv)

100 94 >>The way to purge the Blue from your State is to get the Universities Purged.

That's been a big problem for Massachusetts for years. Students check in and they never check out.

And that doesn't include all the professors like Squaw Warren.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:29 PM (ZLI7S)

Checkinggg in but nver checking out. Like a Roach Motel.

Posted by: tubal at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (bCLt0)

101 I don't know how to say motherfuckinghampsterfuckers en espanol
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:06 PM (W2Pud)

Putamadrehamsteresconos

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (WyVLE)

102 That's been a big problem for Massachusetts for years. Students check in and they never check out

True. Many may even be registered( fraudulently) to cote in two states.

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (7T5tR)

103 Cote = vote

Posted by: runner at August 21, 2020 06:31 PM (7T5tR)

104 Texas has a very weird and rabid strain of Democrat that is hard to differentiate from the Bush Republicams.

My aunt was one. Loony fuckin bitch.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 06:31 PM (0ni2j)

105 Caliente.

That means HOT.

When Edgar Martinez, best DH in history (see how I started the fight?) came to bat, the score board said "EDGAR IS CALIENTE!"

And who said going to the ballpark and spending $80 on overpriced beers isn't educational?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at August 21, 2020 06:31 PM (df7zy)

106 >> on average, 28% of Hispanic Americans viewed Trump favorably

Caliente? Muy caliente!

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2020 06:31 PM (w2LAm)

107 Thank you Cris Salcedo

Posted by: Corky Muldoon at August 21, 2020 06:32 PM (LPu4X)

108 I don't mind the idea of all conservative/productive people fleeing these shitholes and leaving dying blue husks behind.

Well, yes, particularly when the mechanics of the Electoral College mean a 99% win in California is no better than a 51% win. The whole point of gerrymandering is to have your guy win a bunch of 51% victories and give your opponent a handful of 99% victories, and the interstate movement of people seems to be have a similar salubrious effect for Republicans.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:32 PM (wGeit)

109 You and smartass JM must be unaware that Austin is
our Silicon Valley and most transplants are work related so it's not a
matter of choice.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM (2DOZq)

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Right, and liberals slavishly and blindly follow a job even if it leads them into a neo-nazi conservative theocracy, right?

Or they know Austin is an island of liberalism with hips places and so they're willing to make the move.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:32 PM (cfSRQ)

110 Starting about 10 miles from the coast (some places more, some less) in CA, politix and culture can be very similar to that of TX or any western state in between. A craft brewery 5 miles west of me has an idiot founder who puts crap about "universal health care" on his f***ing website - a craft brewery 5 miles east of me has beers named for old western gunz, and has NRA/2nd Amendment nights with local gun vendors and trainers putting up displays.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (OTzUX)

111 Posted by: banana Dream at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (l6b3d)

Beto only came as close as he did because of the stupid wine moms.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (2DOZq)

112 >>True. Many may even be registered( fraudulently) to cote in two states.

I think the virus is going to be a big problem for Slow Joe. Much of the organizing and votes that Obama got came from universities. That is a huge organizing group hamstrung during this election.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (ZLI7S)

113 I moved from California to Virginia and have never voted dem in my life, nor will I. So, there's one, for what it's worth.

Posted by: Russkilitlover at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (99Nt9)

114 If it is the case, I guess places like Portland and Seattle are gonna be f'ed for many decades to come, third world even.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (r+sAi)

115 Every NJ public sector union employee who considers themself to be conservative, votes Blue, cuz it's all about the pension.

And those are the bastards you do not want in your neighborhood.

Posted by: BluesFish at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (HQ76x)

116 Look, fat, I want to comment on this, uh, the thing. But I don't know what it all means. I don't. And anyone who says he does is a cavalryman with the visage of a canine. His mom was a bitch. Possibly. Probably. Some percentage chance. Math. You know?

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (H5knJ)

117 Moving from one part of New England to another isn't that huge like moving from California to Texas.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, in a madhouse! A Madhouse! at August 21, 2020 06:21 PM (UWqZJ)

Spend some time in New England and you will realize that there are tremendously disparate areas.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM

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Swamp Yankees abound in CT, RI, MA and NH and they vote 100% Republican. Problem is they are outnumbered by the locust hordes in the Cities.

You leave the big City in New England and you are in Trump Country.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (JUOKG)

118 There's Protestant Hispanics?

Get the fuck outta here.

Posted by: eleven at August 21, 2020 06:08 PM (XTyi0)

Mostly Baptist and evangelicals. Cool people, they will say bless you to a stranger. The ones I've met tend to have kids and be middle to older in age.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (WyVLE)

119 ...and the AZ GOP may be the most useless in the country, a weird mix of family machines and 1970s country-clubber-mindset.

I will stack the transparently self dealing and generally incompetent CA GOP against any state in a contest of uselessness.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (wGeit)

120 >>> Beto only came as close as he did because of the stupid wine moms.
Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:33 PM (2DOZq)

Good point, demographics would tell us more

Posted by: banana Dream at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (l6b3d)

121 Watching Bill Whittle's take on the DNC's "For What It's Worth" extravaganza. He said it was the most effective ad for Republicans he's seen. It's truly awful.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (YynYJ)

122 Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 06:31 PM (0ni2j)

Not just Texas....my cousin must think FDR is still alive.

Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (X/Pw5)

123 19 - Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing

Please stop at Post Falls. Montana is full :^)

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at August 21, 2020 06:35 PM (t7TeQ)

124 A guy on the Friday Night Tights just commented that the thing about Netflix "Cuties" is that the sexualization of prepubescent children has been the norm in Hollywood culture for decades, but they never tried to push it out into the mainstream before. They must sense the Cultural moment is right.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 06:35 PM (OeBYn)

125 101 I don't know how to say motherfuckinghampsterfuckers en espanol
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:06 PM (W2Pud)

Putamadrehamsteresconos

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (WyVLE)

Thanks.

I only have two more things to learn today.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 06:35 PM (ZfRYq)

126 The way to purge the Blue from your State is to get the Universities Purged.

I'm thinking more looting, pillaging, and confiscation.

Posted by: Henry Miklos VIII at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (QzkSJ)

127 Willowed from the last thread. I saw .380 ammo on Cheaper Than Dirt. 100 rds, $150.00. Just got a .380 Shield, and I have practically nothing to feed it. Only about 150 rds, so I haven't even taken it to the range.

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (VNmG1)

128 Please stop at Post Falls. Montana is full :^)

McGyver, out
Posted by: McGyver at August 21, 2020 06:35 PM (t7TeQ)
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No problem, Montana is over rated, any way.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (WEBkv)

129
Texas has a very weird and rabid strain of Democrat that is hard to differentiate from the Bush Republicams.

My aunt was one. Loony fuckin bitch.

Posted by: garrett at August 21, 2020 06:31 PM (0ni2j)

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As much as the media keeps trumpeting the always-around-the-corner Great White Conservative Die-Off, I think the truth is the opposte: their party is sustained by geriatric yellow-dog liberals.

The most determined Democrat voters I know are all over 70. They are impervious to persuasion and they vote in every. Single. Election.

The young pups are too lazy to do voting and stuff and focus on Instagram.

Trump made a determined play for them - especially blue-collar types and peeled enough off to give him Michigan and Wisconsin.

Covid hit this bunch disproportionately, so next time around the loss will be keenly felt.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (cfSRQ)

130 Every CA person I know who's moved/thinking about moving to TX is the opposite of a lib blue-stater. Special forces vet, very right-wing engineer, right-wing lawyer. But the Austin 'burbs seem to be the magnet, one's there, another planning to go there. They seem to completely ignore Austin itself.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (OTzUX)

131 Putamadrehamsteresconos

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (WyVLE)

*SMOOOOCH*

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:37 PM (W2Pud)

132 Rhomboid:

I agree. Vegas Union folks are not progressive. Hell, Harry Reid was a blue dog Democrat most of his career before he became an outright leftist. He has always been a criminal and a political machine.

Most people who actually live in Vegas and Reno are pretty normal. They do not want progressivism and identity politics. They want a good job and stability. Yes, there are lots of Democrats but they are not ideologues. I grew up in Vegas and to say NV has changed is an understatement.

The economy her in Nevada MAY NEVER recover, due to The shutdown of Vegas. Our economic forecast is dismal. We rely on tourists and they are not coming. How the Casinos allowed this to continue for so long is beyond any explanation.

Once my youngest graduates, I am looking to move to Texas, where my Dad is and a lot of my family.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:37 PM (haWye)

133 119 ...and the AZ GOP may be the most useless in the country, a weird mix of family machines and 1970s country-clubber-mindset.

I will stack the transparently self dealing and generally incompetent CA GOP against any state in a contest of uselessness.
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:34 PM (wGeit)

I'll see your CA GOP and raise you the NY GOP - especially NYC.

How Fredo and Wilhelm are presiding over a mass exodus and you don't hear a peep from ANY major Republican about the disaster is a mystery to me.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2020 06:37 PM (6xA3t)

134
*points*
*laughs derisively*
*laughs some more*

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (NWiLs)

135 I do, however, have 5 magazines for said .380

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (VNmG1)

136 I love that nobody in California wants to move to Ohio.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (OeBYn)

137 Jewells, being retired would make one want to live in a state that doesn't have a state income tax.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (1G0gF)

138 Spend some time in New England and you will realize that there are tremendously disparate areas.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 21, 2020 06:25 PM

Do not say dis

The Berkshires are not weak !!

the Ukraine may be weak but us

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (O+AcM)

139 Every CA person I know who's moved/thinking about moving to TX is the opposite of a lib blue-stater. Special forces vet, very right-wing engineer, right-wing lawyer. But the Austin 'burbs seem to be the magnet, one's there, another planning to go there. They seem to completely ignore Austin itself.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (OTzUX)

Well if your still accepting refugees in 3 years when I get out of the Navy, think there might be room for a right wing dentist from NJ?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (85Gof)

140 135 I do, however, have 5 magazines for said .380
Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (VNmG1)

That's silly. .380 doesn't read.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 06:39 PM (NWiLs)

141 #TeamShutDown #TeamDestroyAmerica

Biden to ABC's David Muir: 'I would shut [country] down' to prevent spread of COVID-19 if scientists recommended - ABC News -
https://t.co/kN8KJaSEG1?amp=1

"I would shut it down; I would listen to the scientists," Biden told Muir Friday

"I will be prepared to do whatever it takes to save lives because we cannot get the country moving, until we control the virus," Biden said. "That is the fundamental flaw of this administration's thinking to begin with. In order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing, and people employed, you have to fix the virus, you have to deal with the virus."

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 21, 2020 06:39 PM (FBrfY)

142 Texas also has polka.

Posted by: Miklosian Selling Points at August 21, 2020 06:39 PM (QzkSJ)

143 127 Willowed from the last thread. I saw .380 ammo on Cheaper Than Dirt. 100 rds, $150.00. Just got a .380 Shield, and I have practically nothing to feed it. Only about 150 rds, so I haven't even taken it to the range.
Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (VNmG1)

A buck fifty a round for .380? I don't buy .380 but that seems like an awful lot. It was literally last year I was complaining about paying the same price for .303.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (wGeit)

144 I may soon be emigrating from Houston/Harris County to Palo Pinto County Texas, just to get away from the increasingly blue Harris County. My district went for Clinton in 2016, and elected a democrat Congress"person" in 2018, so even the suburbs are lost.

Posted by: jayhawkone at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (0NEdF)

145 How Fredo and Wilhelm are presiding over a mass exodus and you don't hear a peep from ANY major Republican about the disaster is a mystery to me.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2020 06:37 PM (6xA3t

There is a " Major" Republican in NY? Coulda fooled me. Well except for J.J.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (85Gof)

146 The economy her in Nevada MAY NEVER recover, due to The shutdown of Vegas. Our economic forecast is dismal. We rely on tourists and they are not coming. How the Casinos allowed this to continue for so long is beyond any explanation.

Once my youngest graduates, I am looking to move to Texas, where my Dad is and a lot of my family.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:37 PM (haWye)
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It continues to astonish me these pols are willing to cut their own throats because they hate PDT so much.

By the way, Harry had the machine in his pocket, and that machine made sure he remained in office, until Obamacare.

Amazing how he suddenly retired after that "accident" with a weight machine?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (WEBkv)

147 I'd move to SD tomorrow

but the boss says no way is she's leaving her kitchen

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (O+AcM)

148 >>> I love that nobody in California wants to move to Ohio.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (OeBYn)

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Or Iowa. 'Cept my niece. Can't wait to have her

Posted by: Chin music at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (1Xx0L)

149 Darrell Harris

My take is the GOPe establishment is in every sate. Even in Kansas. They are worthless, corrupt, and will not change. Nor will they allow outsiders with better ideas to take over.

I've tried in the local area. We need a new identity, and new people in charge. Because the organized get permanent results, even if the unorganized have better ideas and people.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (hyuyC)

150 Czech Chick, I always wanted to live in the Minden Valley but I'm really happy that I live in TX.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:41 PM (1G0gF)

151 96 Re: Cruz

The highest, and best, use for Ted Cruz is on the Supreme Court.

He'll never be president - and I say that having voted for him in the CA primary over DJT. I think of a single piece of legislation that he's championed in the Senate, other than some bipartisan piece of nonsense that went nowhere, I think. While Cornyn will win his seat in a cakewalk, Cruz will have trouble keeping his next time when some Beto II Electric Boogaloo Dem gets tons of outside money to run against him again.

I like the guy, but it seems like none of his colleagues and fewer of his constituents like him for some reason that I can't fathom.

Someone needs to get to him and tell him what the future really holds for the guy if he holds onto this aspiration of his, and when Trump offers him a seat (again), he needs to accept.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (6xA3t)

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I agree. I caucused for him in 2016. I was ashamed of his 2016 RNC Convention speech. He redeemed himself by standing with Trump after the Billy Bush tape surfaced. Ryan and too many RINO Bastards ran away.

Cruz would be a great replacement for RBG, and I think he would be better in the no holds barred dogfight than someone like Amy Comey Barrett.

Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 06:41 PM (+0uDE)

152 I think this is right.

While before, there were many reasons why they would move from blue to red--job, climate, retire, etc.--now: Most are moving specifically for political reasons.

Posted by: RoyalOil at August 21, 2020 06:41 PM (aO8Gd)

153 I don't know how to say motherfuckinghampsterfuckers en espanol
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:06 PM

maldito hámster

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2020 06:41 PM (DMUuz)

154 136 I love that nobody in California wants to move to Ohio.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM (OeBYn)

People move where the job opportunities are, unless they're retiring. Thus the well worn path to Texas.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:41 PM (wGeit)

155 Making Poll Numbers Great Again!

MPoNGA !

Posted by: socalcon at August 21, 2020 06:42 PM (Roy2Z)

156 Bret Baier has Mollie up against Julie Pace of the AP, who looks like she hasn't washed her hair in at least a week, and Steve Hayes.

Julie misses the hair and makeup magicians at Fox.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2020 06:42 PM (ptqGC)

157 Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (wGeit)

Less than a month ago, I picked up 100 rds for $25.00. And that was all the gun shop had.

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:42 PM (VNmG1)

158 Jefe El Donaldo!

Posted by: Manuel Labor at August 21, 2020 06:42 PM (v0R5T)

159 The Californians who turned other states blue in the mid '00s were cashing out of the housing bubble, not fleeing liberal policies.

Posted by: schizoid at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (zAWFE)

160 Texas is a shithole.

Posted by: Ed Wood at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (dPbbE)

161 A buck fifty a round for .380? I don't buy .380 but that seems like an awful lot. It was literally last year I was complaining about paying the same price for .303.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (wGeit)

Those prices would make me start reloading....or switch calibers.

Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (X/Pw5)

162 Maricones que les joden los hamsteres.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (NWiLs)

163 Now we need some good ideas on how to get Red state communists to move to fuckin' California.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (sWM8x)

164 Steve Hayes is sitting in front of gray drapes that match his hair.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (ptqGC)

165 Self Segregation. Yes. Voting with your feet.
Some people have or make excuses. But others just do it.

Posted by: Case at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (w+1zw)

166 "I will be prepared to do whatever it takes to save lives because we cannot get the country moving, until we control the virus," Biden said. "That is the fundamental flaw of this administration's thinking to begin with. In order to keep the country running and moving and the economy growing, and people employed, you have to fix the virus, you have to deal with the virus."

A virus that kills 2% of >1%.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (oVJmc)

167 Ace's liver, and Darrell - no argument here - I was just mentioning how bad the AZ GOP was because unlike CA's and NY's, both infamously horrible and useless, most don't seem to know about it - though they certainly know about it's results, including such garbage as McCain and Flake.

Czech Chick, Reid was probably the most right-wing (seriously) of the western/mountain Dems, up until some time in the 90s. Worked in the Senate for years - apart from local/regional practical issues, which of course is the case for all senators, Reid was just an assumed vote for the GOP side on a wide range of issues, and this during the "contentious" Reagan years. Then again, so were several southern and border state Dems.

But Reid's transformation into a ruthless/disgusting hit man for the far left is stunning.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (OTzUX)

168 150 Czech Chick, I always wanted to live in the Minden Valley but I'm really happy that I live in TX.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:41 PM (1G0gF)

In 1975, I was best man in a Czeck wedding

took place in a place called West, I think

those people could party, whew !!

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (O+AcM)

169 Arizona, Colorado and and Montana are getting fucked up now

Posted by: Hatari Somewhere on Ventura Highway at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (M+Lyo)

170 Or madre fornicando hámster fornicador

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (DMUuz)

171 136 I love that nobody in California wants to move to Ohio.
----
I shoulda never left Cincy.

Except for that Skyline Chili it's a great area.

Posted by: BluesFish at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (HQ76x)

172 Meade Lux Lewis

Moving to the LA area? Pedophiles are part of the mainstream cultures. Pass the word.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:44 PM (hyuyC)

173 NO COMPRES GOODYEAR!

Posted by: Manuel Labor at August 21, 2020 06:44 PM (v0R5T)

174 Or, if you prefer,

Los cabrones que les joden los hamsteres.

Regional variances in slang.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 06:44 PM (NWiLs)

175 and for all of you who like Spanish puns

No Vota Vasura

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 06:44 PM (WyVLE)

176 Just got a .380 Shield, and I have practically nothing to feed it. Only about 150 rds, so I haven't even taken it to the range.

That's what I just bought.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:45 PM (dUJdY)

177 Texas is a shithole.
Posted by: Ed Wood at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM

That's right, you're not from California
But California wants you anyway.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 21, 2020 06:45 PM (DMUuz)

178 Golpeé a una vaca con este coche de alquiler.

Posted by: WTH at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (v0R5T)

179 >>> A buck fifty a round for .380? I don't buy .380 but that seems like an awful lot. It was literally last year I was complaining about paying the same price for .303.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (wGeit)

Those prices would make me start reloading....or switch calibers.
Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (X/Pw5)

=====

I don't know anything about firearms and that even seemed high to me. I think I'll stay with my Daisy Red Rider.

Posted by: Chin music at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (1Xx0L)

180 That statement by Biden on "the virus" is just so spectacularly scientifically illiterate.

Tragically, it proceeds from the same basic premise now wrecking much of the country at the state level, and, even worse, implicit or explicit in the WH task force positions.

Basic epidemiology and virology have been systematically abandoned by most of the "public health" establishment, world-wide. This is much scarier and more astonishing than I think is widely recognized.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (OTzUX)

181 137 Jewells, being retired would make one want to live in a state that doesn't have a state income tax.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:38
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I've never really researched this, Ben Had. But aren't property taxes and sales tax making up for this partially?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (hN5th)

182 I'd move to Texas in a heartbeat, but the better half, born in Galveston, wants to stay here in CO. Her kids and grandkids are here, so...

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (VNmG1)

183 CO has been screwed for 8 to 12 years now. The GOP here is almost as ineffective as that in CA.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (r+sAi)

184 Redacted:

I have been to many a Czech Wedding. We are also Catholic, so lots of adult beverages consumed.

My cousin got married when I was 12. I was drunk for 2 days. Did you do the Grand March?

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (haWye)

185 oops
off caplocks sock (I wasn't yelling)

Posted by: wth at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (v0R5T)

186 161 A buck fifty a round for .380? I don't buy .380 but that seems like an awful lot. It was literally last year I was complaining about paying the same price for .303.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:40 PM (wGeit)

Those prices would make me start reloading....or switch calibers.
Posted by: BignJames at August 21, 2020 06:43 PM (X/Pw5)

Yeah, buying that rifle was stupid. I hadn't had a rifle in quite a long time, and this one was cheap, so I figured I'd ease myself back into shooting without breaking the bank. Then I spent more on two boxes of ammo than I'd spent on the rifle. I think I'll probably shoot those two boxes and then get rid of the stupid thing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (wGeit)

187

" Iwould shut it down; I would listen to the scientists," Biden told Muir Friday

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 21, 2020 06:39 PM (FBrfY)

Just watched that. My jaw dropped.

Posted by: WisRich at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (qKfc+)

188 I hope your friend is right but I'm very doubtful. People from California and places like New York have killed Colorado, parts of Idaho, Austin and states like North Carolina and parts of Georgia.

They don't learn. They vote like cult team members Because "they're really gonna get it right this time.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (h3FHK)

189 Still don't get how Cruz struggled with Beto.

Did he not take him seriously enough?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (6hvzW)

190 Biden will be sure to listen to those "scientists" who confirm his already confirmed position on teh coronavirus. The Spanish doctor from the other evening, for example, would be right out.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (NWiLs)

191 Another hit on big cities are businesses decentralizing office work.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (pB6Gt)

192 rhomboid

Yup.

Scientism >>>Science™

See it everywhere. American Chemical Society --- gone to science.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (hyuyC)

193 139 Every CA person I know who's moved/thinking about moving to TX is the opposite of a lib blue-stater. Special forces vet, very right-wing engineer, right-wing lawyer. But the Austin 'burbs seem to be the magnet, one's there, another planning to go there. They seem to completely ignore Austin itself.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (OTzUX)

Well if your still accepting refugees in 3 years when I get out of the Navy, think there might be room for a right wing dentist from NJ?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2020 06:38 PM

-----------------

Chuck DeVore: Will Texas flip because of blue state migrants? Don't bet on it
https://t.co/FfyuRvo8yA?amp=1

The poll found that compared to native Texans, people who moved to Texas were more likely to have voted for President Trump, with voters born in Texas favoring Trump over Clinton by 7 percent compared to transplants favoring Trump by 12 percent. Remember, Trump won Texas by 9 percent in 2016.

This result is similar to the findings of a CNN exit poll in the 2018 Senate race between Cruz and O'Rourke showing that native Texans favored O'Rourke by 3 percent compared to people who moved to Texas supporting Cruz by 15 percent. And an earlier poll by the Texas Tribune and UT Austin found that 57 percent of Californians who moved to Texas were self-described conservatives compared to 27 percent liberals.

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (FBrfY)

194 Willowed
Ammo factories are running 24X7 and NOT keeping up with demand.

Where exactly is all the ammo going?

I hope to responsible gun owners, but I figure much of it will be to idiots.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 21, 2020 06:01 PM (3H9h1)

---------

You get a new gun, you are going to need ammo, otherwise why buy it?

A glock 17? You need a 50 round box just to fill three magazines. You get two boxes and go to the range. Likely you come back dry. So you need another box or six.

That is where a lot of this ammo is going.

Your average gun owner goes through less than a box of ammo a year. Suddenly they realize they need more than that half box of .30-06 hunting ammo from 3 years ago if things go sideways. Maybe they need a box for their 9mm they haven't touched since they bought it in 2013?

Posted by: rd at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (+0uDE)

195 Redacted:

And Minden is nice. Trump country there for sure. Beautiful Valley and nice people.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (haWye)

196 [snip]

Guys I know who fled to AZ are now somewhat in despair - their governor is a disaster, and the AZ GOP may be the most useless in the country, a weird mix of family machines and 1970s country-clubber-mindset. Gunz are off-limits, but little else seems to be (AZ has among the most incompetent and dishonest and irresponsible public health departments, as demo'd during the current national debacle - a very, very, very high bar).

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:24 PM (OTzUX)

_________

Spot on, rhomboid -- as an escapee from California to Northern Arizona, can confirm everything you said is true.

The McCain cabal/machine still has the state by the balls with their RINO candidates ...

Posted by: ShainS at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (t/8pF)

197 People left Ohio because of jobs. There have been times when Ohio just blead manufacturing jobs.

Posted by: Case at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (w+1zw)

198 What I'd like to know is why a lot of Texans kind of
hate Cruz so much. Not all of them, but of course leftists, a big part
of the middle and a good number of Republicans. Is it his show boating?
Does he not bring home the bacon? Leftover animosity regarding him vs.
Trump? General anti-incumbency?
Posted by: banana Dream at August 21, 2020 06:30 PM (l6b3d)

Cruz is prickly. He does a podcast and he is erudite, and pleasant, and clearly smarter and more politically savvy than most people I deal with, but he is prickly and clearly bull headed and stubborn.

He must get sideways on people, especially people who disagree and think Cruz should bow to them instead.

I think it is up there with the question "Why you don't want Kurt Schlichter as a subordinate"

Posted by: Kindltot at August 21, 2020 06:49 PM (WyVLE)

199 Hesco Gypsy,

These are not the same type of people. My Leftist step daughter is perfectly happy in Oregon. The people leaving Oregon are the ones with no say, which would be those conservatives.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 06:49 PM (YynYJ)

200 Also, the other question would be if this, long term, causes lost representation in Congress for the blue demon states. Has to, right?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:49 PM (6hvzW)

201 > I like the guy, but it seems like none of his colleagues and fewer of his constituents like him for some reason that I can't fathom.

He believes in the Constitution. That's more than enough to make him unpopular in the DC of today.

And yeah, I also want him on the Supreme Court.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 21, 2020 06:49 PM (unn44)

202 It says it doesn't happen often but have a new e book on my tablet, never opened and it didn't download, and no fkin way to get it to on Amazon or fix it.
I really do hate e books

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2020 06:49 PM (OjZpE)

203 olddog, that is true but it still isn't as high as a state income tax and the other taxes those states add on.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:49 PM (1G0gF)

204 I don't know how many passed but Cruz has sponsored well over 200 bills.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (nAJ3K)

205 Minden is where 2 of the gun businesses I knew were moving.

And for .380 prices, I think it is of course a simple supply/demand issue, and for that caliber, the supply is much tighter. Don't have the figures, but confident that the run of that caliber is much smaller than that for 9mm or 45ACP, possibly even 38 special.

The ammo makers aren't stupid, but it's capital intensive, and they wisely refrained from adding to capacity recklessly during the Obama panics (there has been expansion, but I think in line with market forecasts).

I would have thought that sales of .380 pistols would already have led to expanded runs of that caliber. But it's an industry that doesn't turn on a dime, they probably have been increasing .380 production in line with projected gun sales, but got caught with a mega-panic.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (OTzUX)

206 Or they know Austin is an island of liberalism with hips places and so they're willing to make the move.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:32 PM (cfSRQ)

Steven Crowder and Alex Jones were walking through Austin (don't remember what part) but it was a total shithole. Jones was getting sick from the smell.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (poAsj)

207 My cousin got married when I was 12. I was drunk for 2 days. Did you do the Grand March?
Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:46 PM (haWye)

I can't even remember what I had for lunch

so 1975 is long gone

but I remember that it was a Catholic wedding

lot of getting up and down

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (O+AcM)

208 State Dept. confirms Ghislaine Maxwells nephew worked as a staff assistant while Hillary was SOS.-
Daily Beast

Posted by: Ktgreat at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (AD3JT)

209 Fun fact: Chicago literally translates to "I shit there" in Italian.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (L9P9s)

210 127 Willowed from the last thread. I saw .380 ammo on Cheaper Than Dirt. 100 rds, $150.00. Just got a .380 Shield, and I have practically nothing to feed it. Only about 150 rds, so I haven't even taken it to the range.
Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (VNmG1)

Are those the platinum tips or something?

Jeebus I am glad i bought a ton of ammo in February.

Posted by: blaster at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (ZfRYq)

211 189 Still don't get how Cruz struggled with Beto.

Did he not take him seriously enough?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:47 PM (6hvzW)

Demographics. A large number of Hispanics moved to Texas and had children. Those kids are now voting age.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (wGeit)

212 I went to a Catholic wedding once. Long, boring, and no reception afterward. Meh.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (NWiLs)

213 conservatives have to win Hispanics, at some point. And along with that migt be winning more of the Catholic church, including white American Catholics, and maybe we could do better with black Baptists as well. Christianity and Communism are polar opposites ... free will of the individual versus forced state control and forced submission ... to the state.

GOPe has been serving BigCorp and MIC ... and yielding on our basic liberties. Trump and others are flipping that narrative ... to some degree. The path to the middle class is perhaps most attractive to the lower end, striving to move up. That can be through blue collar work, if the left would quit burning down their neighborhoods.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2020 06:51 PM (Cus5s)

214 olddog, 65 and over you get a homestead exemption.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:52 PM (1G0gF)

215 Demographics. A large number of Hispanics moved to Texas and had children. Those kids are now voting age.
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (wGeit

So basically if an Irishman can speak Spanish, that's all they need?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:52 PM (6hvzW)

216 illiniwek

Good analysis.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:52 PM (hyuyC)

217 Sorry meant well over 100 bills.

Posted by: Weaning is hard at August 21, 2020 06:52 PM (nAJ3K)

218 129
...
The most determined Democrat voters I know are all over 70. They are impervious to persuasion and they vote in every. Single. Election.
...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (cfSRQ)

That is an age demographic that prizes loyalty as a personal, self-sacrificing virtue.

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 21, 2020 06:52 PM (8C7+r)

219 hmm

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (yQpMk)

220
Barrel Protection System activated!

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (8C7+r)

221 Nice save Grump

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (6hvzW)

222 > Still don't get how Cruz struggled with Beto.

Beatoff had massive, and I mean massive loads of cash shoveled in to the race by the national Democratic Party, which loves the idea of collecting Cruz's scalp.

Same reason we still have Murky here in Alaska, despite the fact that the actual Alaska GOP voters primaried her ass two election cycles ago.

That's one reason among many that I will never McConnell, despite the good work he's been doing with judges recently.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (unn44)

223 TX was always good to me and I loved growing up there

it was a great place for selling antiques

but I've gotten used cool summers after 28 years in the Berkshires

so I'll never go back

lucky TX

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (O+AcM)

224 Too bad Mexico is a failed narco-state.

We can encourage Blue migration there. Lots of villages with few men. Even Insomniac would be overwhelmed with trim there.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (hyuyC)

225 Even Texas public schools are Leftist Seminaries, 12 years of learning the white forefathers were racists, oil is killing poor polar bears and BLM your kids will be voting socialists as soon as they can vote.

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2020 06:53 PM (OjZpE)

226 215 Demographics. A large number of Hispanics moved to Texas and had children. Those kids are now voting age.
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (wGeit

So basically if an Irishman can speak Spanish, that's all they need?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:52 PM (6hvzW)

Democrats aren't at all shy about where they think the state is going and why.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (wGeit)

227 ShainS - thanks for confirming my (discouraging) anecdata.

I think.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (OTzUX)

228 Blake:

I know Sharron Angle. She beat Harry Reid, but for the voter fraud he engineered in Vegas. Too bad he did not lose officially.

Most long term Nevadans know Harry is a criminal. All his kids are millionaires, as is he. He has always been a government employee. How is that possible if not for criminality? My Dad was FBI in the seventies and eighties. He had Harry implicated in all kinds of criminal activity but the Jimmy Carter US Attorney and AG would not prosecute.

Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (haWye)

229 Here's the other thing: those of us in blue states are effectively silenced. We have to be very careful letting people know we are conservatives. You could lose your job. Moving to a conservative area sounds like a dream. You can put a Trump sticker on your car and not worry about it being keyed. It's not the same for Lefties in conservative areas. They aren't silenced the same way.

And a lot of those moving have families. The blue areas are becoming unsafe areas to raise children.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (YynYJ)

230 212 I went to a Catholic wedding once. Long, boring, and no reception afterward. Meh.
Posted by: Insomniac

my catholic wedding was Mass, the a reception on a party boat floating on Lake Washington. We went through 4 cases of wine, two kegs and I can't remember how much Irish.

it was a fun time. all of the groomsmen stripped to their skivvies and took a jump in the lake.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (W2Pud)

231 Worried that a Cali ballot will be mailed to those who moved and then they will vote Blue in TWO states.

I'm from Chicago where the displaced, demented, and dead will vote. Early and often.

Posted by: FloridaMan at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (HCeRP)

232 Rodrigo Borgia

I've met Joe Miller. Great guy.

His dad Rex and I worked together for years on the Constitution Bee here.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (hyuyC)

233 I went to a Catholic wedding once. Long, boring, and no reception afterward. Meh.

Then they didn't do it right. I went to one and the damn priest got hammered!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

234 So those fleeing are 'going Galt'.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (ufFY8)

235 I think a lot of novice gun buyers (especially smaller women) get steered toward the .380, so that might have something to do with it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (unn44)

236 Then they didn't do it right. I went to one and the damn priest got hammered!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY

Are we still doing phrasing?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (6hvzW)

237 I wonder if things are just too obvious now. In the past when liberals had to flee left-wing States it was because costs had risen and there were no jobs.

They of course blamed this on Bush or Republicans in general

But when you have to flee because violent thugs are destroying your town it is rather hard to blame Trump or Republicans

Posted by: 18-1 at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (qlFIA)

238 Fun fact: Chicago literally translates to "I shit there" in Italian.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2020 06:50 PM (L9P9s)

Sounds appropriate.

I have shit there many times and enjoyed it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (Z+IKu)

239 nurse ratched

Did you get your bra signed at the reception?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (hyuyC)

240 And Minden is nice. Trump country there for sure. Beautiful Valley and nice people.
Posted by: Czech Chick at August 21, 2020 06:48 PM (haWye)

the people are what I miss the most about TX

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (O+AcM)

241 Fleeing reds also shift the House seats as well. Twofer

Posted by: Tonic Dog at August 21, 2020 06:55 PM (7vz7U)

242 21 >>Honestly, if it weren't for various forms of fraud I think the Democrats would already be reduced to a rump regional party.

Think how bad hey would be doing without the media acting as their PR arm.
Posted by: JackStraw
____________

Remember back in 2004 when Evan Thomas admitted lefty media bias and said it was worth 15 percentage points in a national election? Without the media bias factor and assuming 15% was correct, GWB would have won 485 electoral votes to Kerry's 53. Kerry wouldn't have even carried California.

Thomas later backtracked and said 5%. If that's right, GWB would have won 355 EVs and 53.8% of the popular vote.

I've never run the numbers on Trump v. DistHillary. I didn't need the stroke that would have resulted.

Posted by: Furious George at August 21, 2020 06:56 PM (9vQJW)

243 I was thinking about buying a .380 pocket gun, but if ammo is that scarce, I'll wait a while.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2020 06:56 PM (sWM8x)

244 > I've met Joe Miller. Great guy.

Sigh.... what might have been.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 21, 2020 06:56 PM (unn44)

245 I been to Catholic wedding long ago, wasn't dry I remember

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2020 06:56 PM (OjZpE)

246 Greetings:

En fuego, no ???

Posted by: 11B40 at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (evgyj)

247 AlaBAMA - several states have been losing reps for a while, NY among them. With the seats moving, generally, south. After this census, will likely happen some more. I'm sure there are good projections of this, but I haven't looked for them.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (OTzUX)

248 239 nurse ratched

Did you get your bra signed at the reception?
Posted by: NaCly Dog

wasn't wearing one

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (W2Pud)

249 Rodrigo Borgia

That was the red flare tip-off the GOPe was corrupt and did not want to win.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (hyuyC)

250 A buck fifty a round for .380? I don't buy .380 but that seems like an awful lot. It was literally last year I was complaining about paying the same price for .303.
Posted by: Ace's liver

Buy some .45 ACP

Posted by: MarkY, committing 3 felonies per day. at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (JbTDu)

251 247 AlaBAMA - several states have been losing reps for a while, NY among them. With the seats moving, generally, south. After this census, will likely happen some more. I'm sure there are good projections of this, but I haven't looked for them.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (OTzUX)

That was my guess too.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (6hvzW)

252 Then they didn't do it right. I went to one and the damn priest got hammered!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

Yeah, they didn't do it right.
And the wedding was basically a regular Mass, with extra prayers and rituals thrown in.
A Mass with the happy couple up front.

Just like a Catholic funeral.

A Mass with a coffin.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (ufFY8)

253 The most determined Democrat voters I know are all over 70. They are impervious to persuasion and they vote in every. Single. Election.
...
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 21, 2020 06:36 PM (cfSRQ)

You just described my mother in law perfectly.

Posted by: filbert at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (NiXyF)

254 Actually I follow Kirstie Alley, who seems a bit red-pilled lately. She's been considering moving out of California. one of the places she asked about was in Ohio. Don't know if she's seriously going or not.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 21, 2020 06:58 PM (YynYJ)

255 nurse ratched

I'll pass something to you through Ladyl. I do not have your address, but I think she does.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 06:58 PM (hyuyC)

256 Rodrigo, I went with the .380 because of the arthritis in my hands. My .45 is starting to beat me up. On the other hand, I do have 1,000 rds of .45 ACP

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 06:58 PM (VNmG1)

257 Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James expressed his support for Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. on Friday, days after President Trump called for a boycott of the Ohio-based company over its policy on Make America Great Again and pro-police apparel in the workplace.

As if I needed another reason to hate this idiot

Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (85Gof)

258 Are we still doing phrasing?

lol.. he got drunk.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (dUJdY)

259 Concerning the migration, we moved from B'More to S.C. this year.

EVERY transplant that we have met in our community is a self professed conservative.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (3D/fK)

260 There are 40 million illegals in America. About 17% of them vote. Even though most of them are in California that still has a Major Impact throughout the country

Of course it also means California has more representatives and electoral votes than it should

Posted by: 18-1 at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (qlFIA)

261 255 nurse ratched

I'll pass something to you through Ladyl. I do not have your address, but I think she does.
Posted by: NaCly Dog

I will text her my address and she can send it to you if you'd like....

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (W2Pud)

262 I honestly wouldn't care if Steve Hayes spontaneously combusted.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (ZLI7S)

263 Nurse, you know the rule. Pics, or it didn't happen

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (VNmG1)

264 olddog, 65 and over you get a homestead exemption.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 21, 2020 06:52
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No property tax for over 65??? Didn't know that. Makes helluva lot of sense to me since most of those taxes go to public schools.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (hN5th)

265 Bill Whittle is hot. In a hacked off way.

Posted by: klaftern at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (RuIsu)

266 Rodrigo Borgia

First time I stood out on the streets waiving a sign for anyone. Northern lights and New Seward in front of the old Sears building. It was fun. Definitely what might have been.

Posted by: Bosk at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (SWbVS)

267 243 I was thinking about buying a .380 pocket gun, but if ammo is that scarce, I'll wait a while.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 21, 2020 06:56 PM (sWM8x)

There's no reasonably priced ammo to be had right now for anything. Eventually the supply and demand curves will catch up, but it's gonna be a year or two.

I don't see much point in buying a gun of any type right now unless you know where you're going to get splodey bits for it and how much they'll cost.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (wGeit)

268 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta afternoon to ya, gov'nor.

Have you made your rescue trip north yet?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (hyuyC)

269 259 Concerning the migration, we moved from B'More to S.C. this year.

EVERY transplant that we have met in our community is a self professed conservative.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2020 06:59 PM (3D/fK)

=====

Most of the transplants I know are from the Midwest and liberal. It's nice to know I'm not the only conservative transplant.

I've grown to hate Ohio plates.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison's Phone, read some movie thoughts at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (LvTSG)

270 If Trump got Obama's media coverage he'd be winning by double digits even in the fake polls.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 06:15 PM (ZLI7S)

The whole purpose in life now for the media entertainment complex is to try convince normal every day people that they are all alone in a sea of lefty liberals - "conform" it whispers daily..."you are all alone in your strange beliefs about God, America, capitalism and traditional families/hard work." And I can see how hard it would be for the hard working family man or women to come home, put there feet up, switch on the TV and here Jake Tapper or Muir burble on about how "normal and important" Cardi-B or Billie Greenhead Eilish thoughts are...you begin to see yourself a stranger in a strange land.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (w2LAm)

271 Hmmm.. second look at Texas?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (dUJdY)

272 >>Los Angeles Lakers star LeBron James expressed his support for Goodyear Tire and Rubber Co. on Friday, days after President Trump called for a boycott of the Ohio-based company over its policy on Make America Great Again and pro-police apparel in the workplace.

Wait until he hears Goodyear backed down.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (ZLI7S)

273 "The most determined Democrat voters I know are all over 70. They are impervious to persuasion and they vote in every. Single. Election. "

This sounds harsh, but will there be a Covid-19 survival effect during this election?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (3D/fK)

274 233 I went to a Catholic wedding once. Long, boring, and no reception afterward. Meh.

Then they didn't do it right. I went to one and the damn priest got hammered!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

That just figures...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (NWiLs)

275 For those with a new .380, bite the bullet (sorry) and get a few boxes - IF you really want it now. That'll be close to 1/3 or 1/2 what you paid for the gun. If you can wait, wait a bit. Prices will ease. At the moment .380 online is as expensive as deer-hunting rifle ammo. That will not last for too long, I don't think.

If it were legal and wise, I'd make some ammo for the Horde myself - just got my .380 dies last week. But it's an FFL to make ammo for sale, and an unwritten rule that you, and only you, shoot your own reloads.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (OTzUX)

276 Columbus does have Katzinger's

that's sumptin

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (O+AcM)

277 Dirt cheap ammo. Lol

Rule of thumb is to avoid any company with the word cheap or affordable in their name.

Just bought 200 rounds of 40 sw for .80 each. Eh.

Posted by: Ha at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (2YT8Y)

278 As I've said before, I don't doubt at all that a majority of native born Texans voted for Beto - his key demographic was lame brained middle aged white women who thought he reminded me of the Skateboard dude they had a crush on when they were 16, and when he would smile at them they'd feel like they were 16 all over again. That's all they cared about.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (trdmm)

279 It seems that much of my life I've been surrounded by very boring people.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:02 PM (NWiLs)

280 263 Nurse, you know the rule. Pics, or it didn't happen
Posted by: Old Blue

I burned the wedding album when he left me and the kids.

I think the kids got a couple of pics, but I didn't want them.

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 07:02 PM (W2Pud)

281 The second attraction of mail-in ballots for the Dems (after outright fraud) is its use in ending (in many cases) the secret ballot. "Let me see who you voted for."

Posted by: Gilded at August 21, 2020 07:02 PM (BRkq2)

282 Ammo and guns are a good investment.

Posted by: Eromero at August 21, 2020 07:02 PM (XhWtx)

283 Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 07:00 PM (wGeit)

Even .22 lr is hard to come by, and what I have seen is up around 15 cents a round. Up from around 4 cents a round if February.

Posted by: Old Blue at August 21, 2020 07:03 PM (VNmG1)

284 "Have you made your rescue trip north yet? "

No, not yet.

Larry Hogan doesn't want us in the State.

And our old community is Karen Central.

I would fully expect some loving neighbor to report the presence of our S.C. plates in the community.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2020 07:03 PM (3D/fK)

285 Y'all keep talking about Texas.

We'll just sit over here real quiet and see how it plays out.

Posted by: South Carolina at August 21, 2020 07:03 PM (QzkSJ)

286 I sure as fuck wouldn't want anything around to remind me of my wedding.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:03 PM (NWiLs)

287 Wow, Scott Adams was lit UP today!

Posted by: navybrat, at large at August 21, 2020 07:03 PM (w7KSn)

288 274 233 I went to a Catholic wedding once. Long, boring, and no reception afterward. Meh.

Then they didn't do it right. I went to one and the damn priest got hammered!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)

That just figures...
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:01 PM (NWiLs)

I went to one in St. Louis Cathedral in New Orleans, 11 bridesmaids, 11 groomsmen. Full communion, the works. That's as High Church as High Church gets.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 07:04 PM (trdmm)

289 85 How could native Texans vote for Beto? Wow!
Posted by: JerseyDevilRider at August 21, 2020 06:27 PM (XEfn

------------------------------------
Some of those "native Texans" are the offspring of illegal aliens.

Posted by: Margarita DeVille at August 21, 2020 07:04 PM (M/9m0)

290 I did score 2 boxes at Bass Pro Shop last week. Hanging on to those and just buying ammo at the range to shoot with. You have to hit them at the right time. I just got lucky at Bass Pro.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 07:04 PM (dUJdY)

291 Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo

That will change in October. Lots of great people at the MoMeet. Well, and me.

I met one person last year at the MoMeet who spent some of their youth as a Go-Go dancer in a cage. Your odds are looking up.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:04 PM (hyuyC)

292 Funny how people take the lesson of betrayal and either consciously seek to never visit it upon anyone else, or turn right around and do it to someone who doesn't deserve it. It's like the cycle of abuse.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (NWiLs)

293 286 I sure as fuck wouldn't want anything around to remind me of my wedding.
Posted by: Insomniac

you'll get over it.
I had a great time at mine. didn't turn out the way I had planned, but we did have a lot of fun and adventures for many years.

I still wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire

Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (W2Pud)

294 So rs VIA answered the door this morning, and there was this very polite 21 year old from the local Republican party there to speak with her concerning the election.

Republican

21

Knocking on doors.

Yeh, you read it here first.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (3D/fK)

295 "I met one person last year at the MoMeet who spent some of their youth as a Go-Go dancer in a cage. Your odds are looking up."

Jack Straw doesn't count.

Posted by: Bosk at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (SWbVS)

296 @264. 65 and over you get a homestead exception.
That is the way it is in Alabama.

Posted by: Case at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (w+1zw)

297 I sure as fuck wouldn't want anything around to remind me of my wedding.
Posted by: Insomniac

You have children, no?

Posted by: M. Molnar at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (QzkSJ)

298 "el meepo" will be hard to top for everyone who wants to play who's on first.

Posted by: Gilded at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (BRkq2)

299 I am guessing Billie Eilish will be joining the 27 club, maybe ahead of schedule. Shame.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (LxTcq)

300 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Huzzah! The Left overplays their hand ... again.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (hyuyC)

301 It seems that much of my life I've been surrounded by very boring people.

That will change when you go to Texas the end of October!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (dUJdY)

302 I met one person last year at the MoMeet who spent some of their youth as a Go-Go dancer in a cage. Your odds are looking up.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:04 PM (hyuyC)

*raises eyebrow*

How very eeeenteresting!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (NWiLs)

303 Income tax is not really an issue for retirees if you live in a state like SC where they dont tax 401k/IRA/pension/SS income.

Property taxes can be a burden, but not in my new town. In CT I was paying $1k/month in SC it's $1k/year.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (L9P9s)

304 Was thinking for a while that I would upgrade from my 94

my grandpa gave it to me in 1963

for some reason, it don't shoot as well as when I was young

Posted by: REDACTED at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (O+AcM)

305 Steve Hayes is sitting in front of gray drapes that match his hair.

Guess who is behind those drapes?

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (EgshT)

306 297 I sure as fuck wouldn't want anything around to remind me of my wedding.
Posted by: Insomniac

You have children, no?
Posted by: M. Molnar at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (QzkSJ)

It wasn't a shotgun wedding.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:07 PM (NWiLs)

307 Just checked, 9mikemike is just about double the normal price right now ($22/box of 50). But available.

As I said, assess your needs, and wait if you can to stock up. I you need *something* now, just buy a little.

Yesterday I continued my random, controlled trial (well, more like a totally anecdotal and non-scientific) survey of shooters at the range - who's a first time shooter? who's a first-time gun-owner?

Numbers were much higher than last month.

It serves a practical purpose - I make sure the newbies get a direct recitation of basic safe practices and etiquette, as they're not all obvious (handling firearms during a cease-fire, and carrying uncased guns to the line from vehicles or elsewhere, are the biggest problem).

But I'm also doing it to assess other things. Obviously BLM and the current Dems are even better gun salesmen than Obama was, which is saying something.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 07:07 PM (OTzUX)

308 Critics defend Netflix pedo film.

https://is.gd/0mmRrn

"Please do not boycott an important film especially one by a Black female filmmaker, based on inaccurate and inflammatory marketing over which she had no control."

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 21, 2020 07:07 PM (OeBYn)

309 I burned the wedding album when he left me and the kids.

I think the kids got a couple of pics, but I didn't want them.
Posted by: nurse ratched at August 21, 2020 07:02 PM (W2Pud)

Reminds me of my sister after her first divorce. I was helping her clean up and move and she tossed this big silver cakeknife into the trash. I said "wait that's silver! You could sell it or something!!!" She said "It's got our names on it, I don't want to see it ever again. You wanna go sell it, take it and go sell it."

well I realized it wasn't worth my time or effort to fool with a stupid thing like that, and nobody wants something with the unhappy couples name engraved on it. So into the trash it went.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 21, 2020 07:07 PM (trdmm)

310 I am guessing Billie Eilish will be joining the 27 club, maybe ahead of schedule. Shame.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (LxTcq)

Nov 4th to put a precise date on it...she should be measuring her head right now to a standard wood chipper opening.

Posted by: Boswell at August 21, 2020 07:08 PM (w2LAm)

311 I met one person last year at the MoMeet who spent some of their youth as a Go-Go dancer in a cage. Your odds are looking up."

How did I miss that??

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 21, 2020 07:08 PM (dUJdY)

312 "No property tax for over 65??? Didn't know that. Makes helluva lot of sense to me since most of those taxes go to public schools."

REDUCED property tax for over 65.

Actually, the appraised value of a senior's "homestead" is capped and adjusted so that the tax rate affects that homeowner /taxpayer/voter less than younger families. Seniors still pay property tax. Given that seniors tend to own more valuable properties than younger families, they may still pay more.

Texas is going through a real struggle in which the legislature keeps trying things to cap or rein in the tax RATE (the percentage charged against the value of residential property) while the counties keep boosting the appraised VALUE of properties (against which the rates are applied.) As long as values rise faster than rates are reduced, the resulting taxes keep increasing.

Posted by: pouncer at August 21, 2020 07:08 PM (Jjybm)

313 SOVIET NOOD

Posted by: vmom 2020 grammar nazi and write supremacist at August 21, 2020 07:08 PM (J8nVw)

314 305
Steve Hayes is sitting in front of gray drapes that match his hair.

Guess who is behind those drapes?

Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey

He just gets worse an worse. Tonight's winner: QAnon, because Trump's a loser and said something about them.
Tonight's loser: Trump.

I see that Stevey is now a "Fox News Contributor". How's that day job working our for you, you festering carbuncle? I guess it's a good thing you were Brett's roommate, or you'd be working at the carwash.

Posted by: pep at August 21, 2020 07:09 PM (v16oJ)

315 I came, I saw, I shit there.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 21, 2020 07:09 PM (LxTcq)

316 303 Income tax is not really an issue for retirees if you live in a state like SC where they dont tax 401k/IRA/pension/SS income.

Property taxes can be a burden, but not in my new town. In CT I was paying $1k/month in SC it's $1k/year.
Posted by: Regular joe at August 21, 2020 07:06 PM (L9P9s)

$1k/month? That's freakin' highway robbery. No way I would ever live in a state like that.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 07:10 PM (wGeit)

317 Love my kids. Marriage was neither fun nor adventurous. Just kept me shackled and broke. Can't do anything about it now.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 21, 2020 07:10 PM (NWiLs)

318 Jewells45

Nice denial!

Seriously, not you. It was ( OPSEC ).

What is said at a MoMeet stays at one. Except for Ben Had has a heart as big as Texas. It is known.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:11 PM (hyuyC)

319 Insom, make sure to skip any Russian Orthodox weddings. I think the one I attended was - not kidding - 4 hours (the ceremony). Lots of incense and sounds and crowns and Old Church Slavonic and ...... yikes.

People getting married were great people, good school friends.

But I seem to recall the lectures at the Zhdanov Institute of Marxism-Leninism at Leningrad State being less intolerable.

Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 07:11 PM (OTzUX)

320 All pissed off now, maybe good will chipper me up but doubt it

Posted by: Skip at August 21, 2020 07:12 PM (OjZpE)

321 302 I met one person last year at the MoMeet who spent some of their youth as a Go-Go dancer in a cage. Your odds are looking up.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:04 PM (hyuyC)

Goldie Hawn lurks here?

Posted by: Gilded Age II, the sequel at August 21, 2020 07:12 PM (BRkq2)

322 rhomboid

What's up with the Track Suit Russian Wedding meme?

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 21, 2020 07:13 PM (hyuyC)

323 @264. 65 and over you get a homestead exception.
That is the way it is in Alabama.

Posted by: Case at August 21, 2020 07:05 PM (w+1zw)

It is just a discount though because you still have to pay the county and city millage.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 21, 2020 07:17 PM (yQpMk)

324 The reassuring parts of the article are that
the migrants are going suburban or rural. I
envisioned them moving to the cockroach urban cities.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2020 07:17 PM (n2iqw)

325 It's schooool taxes that are a big hit.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2020 07:19 PM (n2iqw)

326 251 247 AlaBAMA - several states have been losing reps for a while, NY among them. With the seats moving, generally, south. After this census, will likely happen some more. I'm sure there are good projections of this, but I haven't looked for them.
Posted by: rhomboid at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (OTzUX)

That was my guess too.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 21, 2020 06:57 PM (6hvzW)

Yes, but . . . if President Trump can win on the allocation, a question that will surely go all the way to the Supreme Court (and we all know what peril that entails) so that noncitizens are not counted for purposes of allocation, then the states that have the most illegals and may lose seats are California, Texas, Arizona, and Florida. I have not seen any speculation of which states gain seats as a result. Probably not New York, for sure.

It's reasonable to ask how the Census Bureau will know who isn't a citizen, since it was not allowed to ask. it turns out that they already have a pretty good list, due to DACA and driver's license databases. Those states that have been giving driver's licenses to illegals (California, New York) have been identifying who to exclude from the count. Is the list perfect? Of course not, but it's a good start.

Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 21, 2020 07:20 PM (jK8Z7)

327 Gramps said, I paid for your mama's school your daddy ought to pay for yours.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2020 07:20 PM (n2iqw)

328 Come in on the tail end of every damn thread.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 21, 2020 07:22 PM (n2iqw)

329 silver bullets to kill zombies, or werewolves? I forget ... but silver prices are high now, so even the silver plated 38 ammo is expensive, I guess. Then there is the Coors silver bullet ... because they were early in using aluminum cans? They were also early in being Woke maybe ... earning them the Qu**r Beer nickname, back when it could only be bought west of the Mississippi.

*happy hour commentary

Posted by: illiniwek at August 21, 2020 07:23 PM (Cus5s)

330 Overlooked, and HUGE...

The census. Lots of people are moving from blue states and NOT FILLING OUT THE CENSUS.

This will be a long-term impact that I bet Trump has already gamed out.

Watch.

Posted by: Joseph at August 21, 2020 07:28 PM (KTq2u)

331 $1k/month? That's freakin' highway robbery. No way I would ever live in a state like that.
Posted by: Ace's liver at August 21, 2020 07:10 PM (wGeit)

Before PDT, they deducted all of it and all of the state income tax.

So you DID pay it, insofar as IF these blue-state preference deductions had been eliminated AND everyone's tax rate had been adjusted DOWNWARD accordingly (Fed income neutral), then your rate would have gone down. It basically is and was (overall) a red to blue transfer?

Posted by: Gilded Age II, the sequel at August 21, 2020 07:28 PM (BRkq2)

332 I've one quibble with Ace on the inevitable divide:

If we are going to have a national divorce, why should the libs get so much good real estate?

I'm against the "Let them have the coast and drive it into the ground"

I prefer the "Round 'em up and deport them to Baja California" plan. And on the East Coast, send them running up to Canada. Just like in the American revolution. Canada will welcome them, as it welcomed the Tories -- and why not? Lots of money, lots of political capital.

And there will be a surprisingly large number of North Easterners that are happy to embrace the new conservative tone of Northeast politics.

Posted by: Sweet Lou at August 21, 2020 07:31 PM (4DuI9)

333 330 Overlooked, and HUGE...

The census. Lots of people are moving from blue states and NOT FILLING OUT THE CENSUS.

This will be a long-term impact that I bet Trump has already gamed out.

Watch.
Posted by: Joseph at August 21, 2020 07:28 PM (KTq2u)

Who would be surprised at a high percentage of double voting in such cases?

I hope PDT is going to restore the census to its integrity (or attempt at integrity) too. Recall one of SCoaMF's first moves was to order privileged demographics to be overweighted. In other words, he falsified the numbers.

Posted by: Gilded Age II, the sequel at August 21, 2020 07:32 PM (BRkq2)

334 Someone in the last few days linked a video about pre-coup black affection for DT. Hope it makes the rounds.

Posted by: Gilded Age II, tangent tracker at August 21, 2020 07:36 PM (BRkq2)

335 Has there every been such a massive migration in a census year? Now we will have 10 years of over representation for these moribund blue husks...

One little bit of civil disobedience I didn't think of till after I filled out the form: red voters in blue states not answering the census.

Posted by: Suetonius at August 21, 2020 07:36 PM (7o+WD)

336 The Hispanics that "conservatives" have been so eager to let into the country for so long are going to do the exact same thing to Texas as they did to California. Always remember (not that it would've altered things too much since the damage has long been done), when Trump was elected the Republicans controlled each branch of the government and they accomplished a meaningless symbolic gesture in Israel that means nothing to Americans and they barely cut taxes--that's it. No wall, no deportations, nothing. That's the legacy of the Republican party.

Posted by: joe joe at August 21, 2020 07:37 PM (EqtM7)

337 KGB? AM or FM?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at August 21, 2020 07:45 PM (SchxB)

338 Ace,

Your friend is onto something. My family is looking to move to South Carolina from a blue state after the last six months of stupidity.

My wife asked a fair question the other day - why are we the only ones moving?

Answer - because the rest of our social circle is fine with living like idiots in the name of science. We aren't. We're also one of the few Trump fans and Republican voters in our social circle up here.

Posted by: Stephen at August 21, 2020 07:54 PM (pDXqw)

339 Democrats were completely okay with their voter base trashing cities in the name of BLM because they figured it may turn off some white voters, because to them who cares, but what they fail to understand, since most of them only know a Hispanic if it's the help, is that they are far more family values oriented and they tend to be more outwardly hostile towards African Americans. Democrats are staking their future on splitting our country in two, ignoring that it's going to be a 80/20 split against their radical ideas.

Posted by: Rbastid at August 21, 2020 08:18 PM (U7hCZ)

340 Your friend is right.

I am a recent migrant to central TX (for college). Many of the recent migrants I meet are from purplish or at least nominally Dem-dominated states, and to a man did not move here for "cultural" reasons.

They didn't come here because they wanted to be Instagram influencers or woke-judge-show TV writers. The people to whom that's important tend to stay in their home base.

Just anecdotal, I know.

Posted by: Swamposphere at August 21, 2020 08:27 PM (osuON)

341 However-- Virginia & N. Carolina are obvious counter-examples to the phenomenon you're describing.

Posted by: Swamposphere at August 21, 2020 08:31 PM (osuON)

342 I have given up on moving from CA to AZ. Why uproot my family when AZ is turning into a Mini Cal?
My theory is that the GOP shuts its mouth and cashes in on all the programs from the state and the feds. They are happy enough with tax credits and other bribes. So they run people who will never win. Why rock the boat?

Posted by: PJ at August 21, 2020 08:43 PM (qlTN9)

343 I'm a conservative who left CA for Western NC bringing 2 other Trump voters with me. So happy to escape and be able to vote in a purple state where I can help make a difference!

Posted by: Kebie at August 21, 2020 08:49 PM (BOa7j)

344 VDH foretold all this 20 years ago.

Posted by: Eve at August 21, 2020 08:49 PM (L5yo0)

345
It was the [state-to-state] migration that boosted Republicans. Same thing is happening in Florida, and I think the outmigration from Chicago is going to be a boost to Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan.

Not seeing the logic here at all.

Why would anyone trying to leave a Democrat shithole like Chicago choose to move to Democrat-run states like Wisconsin, Minnesota or Michigan?

I could see the opposite happening for Wisconsin, Minnesota and Michigan.

Wisconsin and Michigan went Red in 2016 by the thinnest of margins. If GOP-voters in Michigan decided to say fuck-it, bye-bye to Half-Whitmer and reliably blue Michigan, then that turns the state from +10,700 Trump to likely back to Blue again in November.

Same holds true for Wisconsin. Which was also solidly Democrat from 2000-2012.

And Minnesota, Wisconsin and Michigan all elected Democrat Governors after 2016.

So those states could all be going back to Blue in November if GOP-voters moved out of those states.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 21, 2020 08:56 PM (Do5/p)

346 I am a proud Ohioan! My move was from the suburbs of Cincinnati to a rural burg east of Columbus! All my neighbors have guns, lots of 'em...and Skyline Chili is the best of all of them, Empress, Gold Star, Dixie, Price Hill, etc...and I will crawl on broken glass with bare feet as will my wife, daughter/son in law, and son to vote for Trump! Now just need to get an AR-15 with MLOK

Posted by: MJSOH at August 21, 2020 09:01 PM (1Yuo3)

347 Georgia is purple now because of all the Yankees that have moved here. It is not because our natives still listen to Alabama and assume Daddy is a Southern Democrat.

Posted by: BacktoGA at August 21, 2020 09:08 PM (GX3JQ)

348 On August 7, we left Sacramento, CA for San Antonio, TX. We'd already purchased a home on the "far west" outskirts of the city. California had just gotten too weird and twisted to stay any longer.

I didn't vote for Trump in 2016, but I intend to correct that error by voting for him this year.

Posted by: Kenneth Mitchell at August 21, 2020 10:51 PM (qrbPd)

349 Couple of points: Driving around west Michigan, maybe twenty-five miles sort of between the burbs and the country. Four Trump signs. One Biden sign. Lots and lots of Old Glory.
And worse for dems; six "Now Hiring" signs.

On another blog, I believe, a guy said his rural county had an immigrant from Chicago who couldn't stand the way the city was run. She spearheaded an effort to ban agricultural equipment from county roads. Hope she doesn't run into a disker while jogging....

Posted by: Richard Aubrey at August 21, 2020 11:44 PM (kvDZa)

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