The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

Where's the guy who is always saying, "And so it begins?"

New York City has been reeling for several years: the garbage isn't being picked up, the roads are a disaster, city services in general are crap. But the tax receipts have been fine, so where is the money going? de Blasio's pet projects and increasing administration costs and progressive wet dreams like "outreach programs" and universal preschool programs and rejiggering the streets to accommodate bicycles at the expense of automobiles, and on and on.

de Blasio came into office with a two billion dollar budget surplus, courtesy of Bloomberg's fiscal policies. Oh, Bloomberg spent money, but he didn't bust the budget.
But shifting resources from basic city services like police and garbage and streets to "youth centers" and the NYC public schools (famously wasteful and underachieving) was a disaster. The collapse of NYC didn't begin as a result of Sino-Lung-Rot, it began as a result of the current mayor's gutting of those basic services; the very things that kept the banks and the ad companies and the fashion houses and the big retailers in town.

Mayor de Blasio threatens laying off 22K NYC workers if the federal gov't doesn't bail him out -- it's 'painfully real'

Does anyone want to bet where the layoffs are going to hit hardest? Police, fire, street cleaning, garbage collection, parks maintenance...that's my bet.

Midnight basketball and those "youth centers" and all of the leftist indoctrination sites will do just fine. Trans outreach will be untouched, and maybe even expanded, because they are always the hardest hit by financial dislocation. And the children of course! And there will always be money to paint BLM slogans on the street outside of Trump buildings!

New York City functioned best when the boring basic stuff got taken care off, and the other stuff became secondary. Giuliani did well when he focused on quality of life issues...he proved that the "Broken Windows" theory was absolutely correct. He fixed crime and decay, and everything else fixed itself! Private investment in NYC boomed, because the city was seen by the world as being safe and clean. Hell, even the subways were okay.

But all of that has changed, but don't be fooled by the Sandinista-loving buffoon in Gracie Mansion: he pushed NYC over the cliff when he was elected; it just took awhile to hit bottom.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

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1 Mayor de Blasio threatens laying off 22K NYC workers if the federal gov't doesn't bail him out -- it's 'painfully real'

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I hope he does it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:00 AM (LvTSG)

2
first of all, I'll fetch the otters

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 13, 2020 11:00 AM (JrAR2)

3 Monkey.

Posted by: Baron Munchausen at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (kxZZD)

4 Hello monkey thread!

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (Zp/Sa)

5 DeBlasio should be arrested at this point. Isn't destruction of a city a felony?

Posted by: rationalistyoda at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (4aiuQ)

6 And NYC voted for this.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (ONvIw)

7 6 And NYC voted for this.
Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (ONvIw)

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18% of NYC voted for this.

Twice.

82% let it happen.

Twice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

8 Don't bail out the city. Let them fix what they've done

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

9 82% let it happen.

Twice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

They they voted for it, by sitting on their asses.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

10 And so it begins..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM (CjFDo)

11 this got nooded

Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC

Washington examiner

https://tinyurl.com/vvvro68

Posted by: DB- just DB. at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM (iTXRQ)

12 9 82% let it happen.

Twice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:01 AM (LvTSG)

They they voted for it, by sitting on their asses.
Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM (ONvIw)

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Not voting is a valid electoral choice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

13 I hope Trump holds a presser and tells him to GFY.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (WvQcX)

14 So it Begins!!!!

Posted by: Someone who says "So It Begins!!!" at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (Kpl3J)

15 11 this got nooded

Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC

Washington examiner

https://tinyurl.com/vvvro68
Posted by: DB- just DB. at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM

Harris' is CAVERN

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (WvQcX)

16 de Blasio came into office with a two billion dollar budget surplus

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Did anyone check his wife's bank account? As a couple, they seem to misplace a lot of money.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (DgKlM)

17 NYC has not hit bottom. Eternal free fall until the rest of the country pulls a Chicago and blocks the bridges and tunnels. Snake Pliskin is resting up.

Posted by: henry at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (J3Rfi)

18 Does anyone want to bet where the layoffs are going to hit hardest?

Does anyone want to bet if I give a fuck?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (yCZVl)

19 It should be "painfully real." The government at all levels has been in the business of actively denying reality for as long as I have been alive. The buck always stops somewhere else. There's always someone bigger and richer to insulate you from consequences.

NYC should be left out to dry. So should all of the cities and states that have eroded their economies for the purposes of gaining political power and increasing their control. There should be no federal bailouts for any of them. Not just because it is unfair, but also because the malefactors should suffer the consequences for once.

When I dust off and shine up my inner confidence, I still believe that reckoning with reality may yet still be possible without being fatal. That window is closing.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (hYcqw)

20

I {poop emoji}
NY

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (XTyi0)

21 Make Stupid Choices

Win Stupid Prizes.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (OZ0zp)

22 He kept his promises. Too bad no one paid attention to his lips moving

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (nFRLh)

23 NYC 2020 - The Fisking Continues

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (3H9h1)

24 terp therter

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (XTyi0)

25 Every person who says they are leaving NYC should be asked if they know who Nicole Malliotakis is.

Posted by: mercenary13 at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (PRQQv)

26 How can we revise Federal law to protect ourselves against bailing out liberal irresponsibility? In a way, even FEMA is a problem - beach houses are obviously going to be hit by hurricanes so why is the entire country bailing them out? Maybe all natural disasters (tornados, hurricanes, floods) even out?

Posted by: Iris at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (lSFe/)

27

Not voting is a valid electoral choice.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (LvTSG)

They have nobody to blame but themselves. They should pay to fix it and if Diballsio charges an NYC exit tax, they've asked for it.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (ONvIw)

28 Does anyone want to bet where the layoffs are going to hit hardest? Police, fire, street cleaning, garbage collection, parks maintenance...that's my bet.

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They could cut pension payments to those people who aren't working for the city anymore.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

29 de Blasio is giving the "OK" sign!!!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (aKsyK)

30 My field of fucks to give is barren, laid to waste by the lack of tears to replenish the soil.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (WvQcX)

31 Mayor de Blasio threatens laying off 22K NYC workers if the federal gov't doesn't bail him out -- it's 'painfully real'

It's painfully delicious.
Probably should start with the garbage collectors. I mean who needs them?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (luzVb)

32 This sounds like cause for celebration.

Posted by: Someguy at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (zNlHv)

33 Who is Nicole Malliotakis?

Posted by: Iris at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (lSFe/)

34 Celtic and Sellout?

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (ONvIw)

35

Your ball.
Your field.
Your rules.
Your problem.
LOLGF.

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM (d6DSt)

36 Anyone else notice DeBlasio did not ask the Governer of the State of New York for a bailout?

Posted by: tbodie at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (A5B6s)

37 Willowed:

Vaccine will be mandatory as soon as it's available.
If you want any interaction with people, you will need to show your

vaccination certificate. Count on it.

Posted by: megthered at August 13, 2020 10:47 AM

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Well someone could sort of interpret that as, well something like let's say.....the mark of the beast or something.

Gotta get that pesky Rapture out of the way first though.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 13, 2020 11:05 AM

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (JUOKG)

38 Apparently CBD thinks I'm a spammer. Hopefully, this can be fixed

Posted by: artemis at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (AwPyG)

39 Since I want to see NYC collapse, I can't see any downside to this story at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (Kpl3J)

40 Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC
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Geez. Was WHITEY taken?

Posted by: ... at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (vGjSz)

41

CELTIC/ECHOKUNT 2020

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (d6DSt)

42 I will hold my breath if I dont get my way!

Posted by: de blasio at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (YXkwF)

43 They could cut pension payments to those people who aren't working for the city anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

You want to see a city burn?
Literally, not figuratively.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (yCZVl)

44 42 I will hold my breath if I dont get my way!
Posted by: de blasio at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (YXkwF

And?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (WvQcX)

45 Probably should start with the garbage collectors. I mean who needs them?
Posted by: deplorable unperson

Anyone can collect garbage....

...Bloomy...

Posted by: Bruce at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (vd8XM)

46 Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC ...
Posted by: DB- just DB. at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM (iTXRQ)
++++++++++
Yeah, like that guy ever played professional basketball.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (hYcqw)

47 After the garbage collectors, Herr Vilhelm the Dunce could can FDNY and emergency services.

Use the savings to purchase fire extinguishers and Band Aids for NYC residents.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:07 AM (luzVb)

48 NYC's predicament is a sort of reality testing exercise for its cool trendy socialist populace.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (ONvIw)

49 Is it Keltic or Seltic?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (q2K0j)

50 Billionaire Icahn just moved from NYC to FL.

Money people know what's coming.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (Q3ZwH)

51 50 Billionaire Icahn just moved from NYC to FL.

Money people know what's coming.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (Q3ZwH)

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*nods sagaciously*

Utopia.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (LvTSG)

52 Top 100!

Posted by: Roland THTG at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (88+cf)

53 After the garbage collectors, Herr Vilhelm the Dunce could can FDNY and emergency services.

Use the savings to purchase fire extinguishers and Band Aids for NYC residents.
Posted by: deplorable unperson

And robitussion

Posted by: Bruce at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (vd8XM)

54 he pushed NYC over the cliff when he was elected; it just took awhile to hit bottom.

It hasn't hit bottom yet.

Posted by: Snake Plissken at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (Zp/Sa)

55 Since I want to see NYC collapse, I can't see any downside to this story at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I would like to see JJ, CBD and NGU out of harms way first.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (yCZVl)

56 Willowed:

Israel and UAE announce historic peace agreement.
This is big. Nice.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (sGotD)

Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (sGotD)

57 Civil War is inevitable.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (aldSv)

58 Did Trump move his residency to Florida?

Posted by: Iris at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (lSFe/)

59 58 Did Trump move his residency to Florida?
Posted by: Iris at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (lSFe/)

I think so.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (ONvIw)

60 Is it Keltic or Seltic?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 13, 2020 11:08 AM (q2K0j)
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With Joe? Depends.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (sGotD)

61 I'm trying to post the viewership numbers for the NBA games against Tucker and Hannity. It will warm the cockles of your heart.

Posted by: artemis at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (AwPyG)

62 They could cut pension payments to those people who aren't working for the city anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

I've thought of a story that could be set in the John Wick universe, I think it'd be entertaining. The State secretly hires some of John Wick's guild members to take out the top 100 pension beneficiaries every month, to cut down on costs.

Wackiness ensues when the Governor loses an election and realizes he's about to go to the top of the list.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (Kpl3J)

63 55
Since I want to see NYC collapse, I can't see any downside to this story at all.

Posted by: Tom Servo

I would like to see JJ, CBD and NGU out of harms way first.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (yCZVl)

And Ace. He lives in NY too, doesn't he?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (D3cJf)

64 Did Trump move his residency to Florida?
Posted by: Iris

Yes, not including him living rent free in most leftys heads

Posted by: Bruce at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (vd8XM)

65 Money people know what's coming.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic

Festival! Festival!

Followed by Carousel!

Posted by: Cyrious Memberpate at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (d6DSt)

66 I read commentary recently(maybe here) that made the point that until the money dries up, nothing will change. We are just trading one deep state for another while there is money to grift. All anyone has to do is hold out until there is a change in the administration and it is back to business as usual. If the money flees NY and doesn't come back, their might be change. But if Biden wins, there is renewed hope for the grift to resume. The leviathan has to die in order for us to truly fix these problems. No one person can do it.

Posted by: DrC at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (vbaSG)

67 L A mayor Mean Highschool Girl Garcetti looks longingly at DeBlasio and sighs, dotting his "i"s with little hearts, dreaming of federal bailouts...

Posted by: getting the banned back together at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (RI5mJ)

68 62 They could cut pension payments to those people who aren't working for the city anymore.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (LvTSG)

I've thought of a story that could be set in the John Wick universe, I think it'd be entertaining. The State secretly hires some of John Wick's guild members to take out the top 100 pension beneficiaries every month, to cut down on costs.

Wackiness ensues when the Governor loses an election and realizes he's about to go to the top of the list.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (Kpl3J)

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Theory:

This was the point of Cuomo's bad COVID management.

But it missed, and the pensioners are out for vengeance.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (LvTSG)

69 I would like to see JJ, CBD and NGU out of harms way first.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (yCZVl)

And Ace. He lives in NY too, doesn't he?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed

Yes. And Ace too. And their families.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (yCZVl)

70 Forget good intentions.

The road to Hell is paved with votes.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (luzVb)

71 Keep voting for Democrats like it's a team sport, New York.

The rest of us knew this disaster, a disaster by the way that Democrats want for the rest of the country, was coming.

If you vote only for your own self-interest and create a tyranny of a majority with unmitigated power, pretty soon they don't need you.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (VpIIl)

72 Does anyone want to bet where the layoffs are going to hit hardest? Police, fire, street cleaning, garbage collection, parks maintenance...that's my bet.
+++++++++++
Yes. Like how during "government shutdowns" Obama erected barriers around national monuments. There is a hierarchy of needs for cities, and at the absolute top - from which *all* other things branch - is sanitation and peace. These will be attacked first, because it will make the place unlivable and hold the population as hostages surrounded by filth and violence and disease.

They did this in Colorado Springs a few years back. There was a budget dispute, and they shut off garbage collection and park maintenance to "save money" - that is, to bring the population to heel.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (hYcqw)

73 Harris' is ~~CAVERN~~HOOVER

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (Zp/Sa)

74 'ej naDtaHvIS wIqaDtaHvIS,

Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (UAMe5)

75 61 I'm trying to post the viewership numbers for the NBA games against Tucker and Hannity. It will warm the cockles of your heart.

Do - or Do Not. There is no "Try"!

Posted by: Internet Yoda at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (Kpl3J)

76 Can mayors be ousted?

I know it won't happen just wondering if there's a mechanism.

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (XTyi0)

77 Maybe they could start milking the rats and making artisinal cheeses?

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (9lzoO)

78 Ask DeBlasio what his wife did with the $500 million of public money she was given to play with. Nobody seems to know.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (qpX6U)

79 NYC is the biggest domino to fall, but every one of the blue cities is falling to Marxism, simultaneously.

I went to Rome many years ago, stood at the ruins, and wondered how it happened that such a city fell to the vandals and visigoths and barbarians.

We are seeing it happen today. The madness of crowds, or the millennial madness, or the desire to rule in hell rather than serve in heaven, or just plain old hatred, envy and greed unleashed in the safety of a mob, it is here.

Posted by: Boots at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (oGBso)

80 Liberal Logic:

If we defund the police, there is no more crime.

If we defund the firemen, there will be no more fires!

Posted by: tbodie at August 13, 2020 11:11 AM (A5B6s)

81 Story on OAN last night about Gov Newsom hiding a 20 billion dollar deficit. He claims he will solve it with "federal money".
Nancy's nephew is twisting in the wind--such a shame!

Posted by: artemis at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (AwPyG)

82 Any of you read White Lotus by John Hersey? I was thinking about it this morning. The US falls apart and China raids the country for slaves. The book follows a young woman taken to China as a slave, all the way to their civil rights movement. Hersey grew up in China, so his descriptions really ring true.

I've long thought that China wouldn't be the benevolent overlords that many people (cough, Joe Biden, cough) think. I really hope this particular story doesn't come true.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (JKNZq)

83 Civil War is inevitable.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM (aldSv)

Sooner rather than later.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (Q3ZwH)

84 I don't want to see NYC fall, I just want to slap some sense into it. This playing at communist cool has fallout.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (ONvIw)

85 Oh shit, I'm a butterhead.

Posted by: Kamalama Dingdong at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (k5f8h)

86 It's dead, Jim.

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (WqPYg)

87 Keltic or Seltic?

For what it's worth, I and my people say Seltic.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (sGotD)

88 Put some 'tussin on it!! -- Chris Rock

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (j3jZX)

89 I don't care if NYC crashes and burns, I'm so entirely sick of all of this. I hope every blue city experiences NYC pain.

Posted by: megthered at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (M8vPr)

90 "Keltic or Seltic?" It's properly called "The Boston Basketball Team."

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (qpX6U)

91 Keltic or Seltic?

For what it's worth, I and my people say Seltic.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (sGotD)
++++++
I have always gone with Keltic for the people, and Seltic for the basketball team. I have no idea which is right.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (hYcqw)

92 Took the wife, kids and parents to NYC back in 2014. I was weary, but was pleasantly surprised and had a great time. The city grew on me instantly.

I wouldn't go there now with my kids for less than a 5-figure bet.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (67sg6)

93 Liberal Logic:

If we defund the police, there is no more crime.

If we defund the firemen, there will be no more fires!
Posted by: tbodie

Defund the police.
Give Sanitation a raise. They're going to need it.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (yCZVl)

94 The day after DeBlasio won his first mayoral election, I happened to be in Manhattan and standing before me was a friend of mine who had years before escaped Russia and managed to get her son and mother out as well. She stood there bewildered sobbing because NYers had elected a communist and asked, "Where am I going to go now? They want communism here, in the USA."

I understand that chickens are coming home to roost, but it makes me angry that people can willfully throw away civilization.

Posted by: RondinellaMamma at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (8/7u2)

95 Mayors can be recalled depending on local rules.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (Q3ZwH)

96
Mayor de Blasio threatens laying off 22K NYC workers if the federal gov't doesn't bail him out -- it's 'painfully real'

__________

Safe: Deputy Assistant Secretary of Diversity

Doomed: NYPD, NYFD, EMTs

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (ABqYZ)

97
The lockdowns and the decriminalization of crime will kill NYC forever. I do not think even this city - as iconic as it is - will ever come back in my lifetime. It will take at least 25 straight years of nothing but Giuliani administrations from top to bottom to even get back to where we were before DeBolshevik.

It really is a tragedy what he and his ilk did to this city. I hope he rots in Hell for this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (s2VJv)

98 The Surprisingly Solid Mathematical Case of the Tin Foil Hat Gun Prepper

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yavjo258

I am of the opinion that if Trump is re-elected, CW2 starts.

Also, if Biden wins.

Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (ZfRYq)

99 61 I'm trying to post the viewership numbers for the NBA games against Tucker and Hannity. It will warm the cockles of your heart.

Posted by: artemis at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (AwPyG)

I'm guessing Portland played in one of the games. Delete their team name.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (d0WgS)

100
@75
CBD won't let me--sorry. It's very lopsided, is the bottom line. Such a shame, it couldn't happen to a shadier league.

Posted by: artemis at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (AwPyG)

101 89 I don't care if NYC crashes and burns, I'm so entirely sick of all of this. I hope every blue city experiences NYC pain.
Posted by: megthered at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (M8vPr)

And they will vote to spread the pain. The mayoral election had shitty turn out, but I bet they turn out for Celtic and Hoover.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (ONvIw)

102 84
I don't want to see NYC fall, I just want to slap some sense into it. This playing at communist cool has fallout.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (ONvIw)

_________

Marxism is a spreading cancer -- and there's only one way to stop it.

Cue Kyle Reese: "It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel
pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until
you are dead."

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (WqPYg)

103 People are leaving NYC in droves. They are moving to suburban NY, NJ and out of the tri-state area altogether.

People of means are already gone, and many companies are following.

When a house goes up for sale here in suburban NY, it lasts about 2 weeks. It has slowed down with a potential school start on the horizon. But I have no doubt it will pick up in the Spring.

The bill is coming due, and a lot of people don';t want to get stuck with the check. It's going to be the taxapayers, already paying the highest taxes in the nation who get to foot the bill.

NY delenda est.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (VpIIl)

104 TuCa had a segment the other night where he said we should all be concerned about what happens to NYC. But I don't live there, I don't work there, I didn't vote for any of the progressivism that Commie Wilhelm implemented nor will I ever vote for anything like that (outright lying doesn't count. I'ma looking at you, Dondi).

Sorry. GAF meter is broken. I do feel bad for the Morons and 'Ettes who live there, tho'.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (HaL55)

105 Secret Service code names:

Biden: Celtic.

Harris: Septic.

Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (QzJWU)

106 " I read commentary recently(maybe here) that made the point that until the money dries up, nothing will change."

Yes, this is exactly it. You need places too poor to afford bureaucrats. The northern WA coast is like that. Olympia sets out a bunch of mandates and they can't enforce them on the coast because there's no tax base to support the army of bureaucrats. The areas in TN that I like are too poor for bureaucrats. You have to starve them out, which means a lot of pain for the citizens.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (JKNZq)

107 Harris' is CAVERN - Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (WvQcX)

I lost my coffee on that one. BWHAAHAHAAHAA.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (67sg6)

108 Give Sanitation a raise. They're going to need it.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (yCZVl)

But if there are no garnage men there's no garbage!!

Posted by: AOC's an asshat at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (ONvIw)

109 Tucker viewership 4.5 million
and Los Angeles team 1.5 million. (head-to head)

Head-to-head on Tuesday night:
Hannity: 4.6 million, Portland team playing San Antonio team 930k.

Posted by: artemis at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (AwPyG)

110 84 I don't want to see NYC fall, I just want to slap some sense into it. This playing at communist cool has fallout.
Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (ONvIw)

Too late, too late, too late.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)

111 106 " I read commentary recently(maybe here) that made the point that until the money dries up, nothing will change."

Yes, this is exactly it. You need places too poor to afford bureaucrats. The northern WA coast is like that. Olympia sets out a bunch of mandates and they can't enforce them on the coast because there's no tax base to support the army of bureaucrats. The areas in TN that I like are too poor for bureaucrats. You have to starve them out, which means a lot of pain for the citizens.
Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:15 AM (JKNZq)

========

I have a feeling that the budget situation in NY is going to become untenable within a year and massive cuts are coming no matter what.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (LvTSG)

112 Und so beginnt es!

Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (gmo/4)

113 Anyone else notice DeBlasio did not ask the Governer of the State of New York for a bailout?

Posted by: tbodie at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (A5B6s)

Actually, he did. And Cuomo told him to get fvcked...mostly because they hate each other.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (xT2tT)

114 20
I {poop emoji}
NY
Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM

What are you, Amy Schumer? Pooping is MY shtick!

Posted by: San Francisco at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (Of/Uk)

115 The closest I got to NYC was Mt Kisco, and the traffic was so bad, I turned back upstate. Upstate has some lovely nature preserves.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (qpX6U)

116 >>Secret Service code names:

Biden : Dyspeptic

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (9lzoO)

117 In Los Angeles they need x number of signatures but Garcetti will not let them go door to door for signatures, pandemic dontcha know.

Posted by: Pliney at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (YXkwF)

118 Looks like the Antifa.com linkage to the Biden campaign got nuked...

Posted by: Gunslinger at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (R2gO3)

119 willowed but I'm copying it because it makes me sorta look like I might knowing something about something:

529 your employer makes getting the vaccine a "condition of employment"

whatcha gonna do?

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 13, 2020 10:52 AM (JrAR2)

Sounds like a violation of HIPAA.
Posted by: Someguy at August 13, 2020 10:54 AM (zNlHv)

Probably not. HIPAA applies to "covered entities," i.e. health plans, health care clearinghouses, and health care providers. However, someone creative might be able to make some kind of ADA case, an ADEA case if you're over 40, or some kind of religious case if you're a Christian Scientist or otherwise eschew modern medicine.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (NWiLs)

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (NWiLs)

120 Starve the beast to death.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (VpIIl)

121 113 Anyone else notice DeBlasio did not ask the Governer of the State of New York for a bailout?

Posted by: tbodie at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (A5B6s)

Actually, he did. And Cuomo told him to get fvcked...mostly because they hate each other.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (xT2tT)

========

They shouldn't even be in the same party.

I say that one of them branch off and take the entirety of their following within the state to a new political party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (LvTSG)

122
Actually, he did. And Cuomo told him to get fvcked...mostly because they hate each other.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (xT2tT)

But they both hate Trump and any red state.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (ONvIw)

123 Civil War is inevitable.

Honest question: Why?

What is the trigger? I see blue cities falling but this seems to be more of a relocations than an invasion.

Our population has submitted like sheep to masks, anti-socializing, anti-church, anti-school, anti-shopping, anti-sports, anti-entertainment with hardly a whimper.

I don't see rising tides of anger. I see rising tides of apathy.

What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (luzVb)

124 I have a feeling that the budget situation in NY is going to become untenable within a year and massive cuts are coming no matter what.

Posted by:�TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts�at August 13, 2020 11:16 AM (LvTSG)

If Biden wins all blue states and cities will get a federal bailout.

Trillions.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (Q3ZwH)

125
and begins, so it does

Posted by: Yoda at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (JrAR2)

126 And fuck deBlasio. He ran the city into the ground and now wants the President, someone he hates and shits on at every opportunity, to bail his stupid ass out. Fuck him sideways with a flaming, barbed-wire-wrapped pineapple.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (NWiLs)

127 was pleasantly surprised and had a great time. The city grew on me instantly.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (67sg6)

Bloomberg fvcked up many things, but he kept the city safe and clean.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (xT2tT)

128 First, we take city hall and immediately execute DeBlasio, kicking his corpse into the Hudson...

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (aldSv)

129 Seeing NYC crater doesn't give me warm tinglies but communism has consequences and just think, Nancy and Schumer were going to bail them and every other social failure out with the new stimulus bill.

Posted by: Gmac - WTF did you think was going to happen? at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (qZdIZ)

130 124
If Biden wins all blue states and cities will get a federal bailout.

Trillions.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (Q3ZwH)

=========

"Not 5 trillion. 4.5 trillion."
-Mitch McConnell

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)

131 Upstate NY is nice.

The finger lakes area, the Adirondacks, and all like that.

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (XTyi0)

132 Chongquing China, upstream of the 3GD is getting another foot of rain this week.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (dNzKv)

133 85
Oh shit, I'm a butterhead.

Posted by: Kamalama Dingdong at August 13, 2020 11:12 AM (k5f8h)

Nipple Nipple

Posted by: Javems at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (ofIwF)

134
Defund the police.

Give Sanitation a raise. They're going to need it.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (yCZVl)

________

The coroner's office and city morgue will need a budget a few orders of magnitude greater.

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (WqPYg)

135 55 Since I want to see NYC collapse, I can't see any downside to this story at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo

I would like to see JJ, CBD and NGU out of harms way first.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:09 AM

Lol...no love for Ace? I suppose NYC will become prime hobo hunting habitat...

Posted by: Grimmy at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (MKLBv)

136 Probably not. HIPAA applies to "covered entities," i.e. health plans, health care clearinghouses, and health care providers. However, someone creative might be able to make some kind of ADA case, an ADEA case if you're over 40, or some kind of religious case if you're a Christian Scientist or otherwise eschew modern medicine.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at August 13, 2020 11:13 AM (NWiLs)

I'm not sure why people think HIPAA apples to their local grocery store clerk or their neighbors.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (ONvIw)

137 O/T, but if you want to understand how corrupt, perverse and destructive the American popular media are, you need only consume foreign media. I like some of the Korean TV shows. Those people *really* understand vengeance. Their revenge dramas are quite good. They're dense and you practically need an org chart to follow them, but whatever.

Entertainment value aside, they really underscore how broken and shitty our media have become. In dialogue, they don't disparage their homes, their country or their culture. It isn't all wine and roses (what revenge tale could be), but characters will sometimes gently castigate each other about buying non-Korean goods and foods, for example, particularly from China. The characters - if the subject comes up (and it usually doesn't) - are patriotic. When a story theme is about government or industrial perfidy, the heroes take out the bad actors (usually either death or prison - I don't see a common trend there) and let others try again.

It is a completely inversion of what we produce.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (hYcqw)

138 The "I {poop emoji} NY" T-shirts would sell a million.

Coffee cups, too.

Make sure to tilt the poop at a cute angle for authenticity.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (j3jZX)

139 I am of the opinion that if Trump is re-elected, CW2 starts.

Also, if Biden wins.
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (ZfRYq)

If Biden loses, there's a non-zero chance that the Democratic Party's endless ragefest will turn inward on itself, with each faction blaming every other for the loss.

If that happens, we win by default and the Democratic Party's fall will open a space for a new party to replace it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (DyVwL)

140 Ja niin se alkaa!

Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (gmo/4)

141 What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (luzVb)
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Armed antifa/blm thugs destroying the inner cities, moving on to city neighborhoods, and then fanning out to the suburbs.

Posted by: Boots at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (oGBso)

142 NYC has not hit bottom. Eternal free fall until the
rest of the country pulls a Chicago and blocks the bridges and tunnels.
Snake Pliskin is resting up.

Posted by: henry at August 13, 2020 11:04 AM (J3Rfi)

Chicago is staying medieval through this weekend. Bridges up and roads blocked. They ought to just build a wall around certain parts of the city

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (9VS7H)

143 Does anyone want to bet where the layoffs are going to hit hardest? Police, fire, street cleaning, garbage collection, parks maintenance... that's my bet.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM

This is a good point regarding focusing on the boring, but necessary things.

I have been watching a lot of Modern Marvels lately and one of the recent ones I watched was regarding tunnels. In addition, I watched an Engineering Disasters episode on a similar area.

The disasters area talked about a failure of the piping that is routed all underground throughout New York City area. For water flow as well as natural gas.

And they noted that the pipes that are used all over the city were all originally installed 50-100 years ago. So there is currently a massive project that has been underway for years to completely replace all the piping under the city to prevent any more disasters of failure of flooding or gas leaks leading to explosions.

Obviously that costs a LOT of money. But it's necessary in order to prevent catastrophes that would cost even more (including lives).

I bet most people do not even think about the cost of basic things like that to not only maintain current infrastructure, but also replace very old infrastructure.

Just with that basic cost, there shouldn't be any "petty cash" available in the budget for any frivolous pet projects or issues of politicians. If they are spending on those projects? Then they're taking that money from where it actually should be spent.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (Do5/p)

144 94...
I understand that chickens are coming home to roost, but it makes me angry that people can willfully throw away civilization.
Posted by: RondinellaMamma at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (8/7u2)

Western Civilization was murdered during WWI.

The last 100 years were the death throes.

Posted by: Flyover at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (Rbu5d)

145 131
Upstate NY is nice.

The finger lakes area, the Adirondacks, and all like that.

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:19 AM (XTyi0)
Grew up just south of the Adirondacks. Beautiful country, mostly right leaning except for Albany and Saratoga. Unfortunately anything Albany north is very economically depressed.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (D3cJf)

146 Where's the guy who is always saying, "And so it begins?"

Portland a couple of days ago banned single-family zoning - anybody who has a vacant lot or an old house in Portland can tear down the house and put up a fourplex without parking, and there is nothing the neighbors can do about it.

I've been reading online discussions where people have been giddily envisioning a vast wave of fourplex construction in Portland, to accommodate all those new people who will be moving to Portland. After all, Everyone Wants To Live Here, especially rich people.

Uh, kids? You just elected a DA who doesn't believe in prosecuting anybody but the cops, there was a special election yesterday that insured that the cop-haters have a majority of the city council, and the self-described "Antifa mayor" has an excellent chance of beating Ted Wheeler in November.

Property crime is exploding, shootings are up 400%, and people are getting murdered in Portland at the highest rate in thirty years.

You can stop worrying about gentrification. These leftists think that the growth in Portland's population and wealth just happened automatically - not that it was a specific set of conditions that allowed gentrification to occur. The shutdown, boarded-up downtown is just a preview of what will happen to the city generally.

These people think that virtue-signaling is costless - that Portland can pass feel-good laws defunding the cops, eliminating the police unit that tried to prevent gang killings, and decriminalize property crime, and there will be no consequences for doing so.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:21 AM (I2/tG)

147 Captain Lou Albano live in Mt Kisco for a while.

I grew up one town over and wpent many years working in Mt Kisco.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:21 AM (9lzoO)

148 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:21 AM (9gDA7)

149 Congrats, NYC.

You voted for this shit. You RE-ELECTED this shit.

Reap it, losers.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:22 AM (9gDA7)

150 The day after DeBlasio won his first mayoral election, I happened to be
in Manhattan and standing before me was a friend of mine who had years
before escaped Russia and managed to get her son and mother out as
well. She stood there bewildered sobbing because NYers had elected a
communist and asked, "Where am I going to go now? They want communism
here, in the USA."

I understand that chickens are coming home to roost, but it makes me angry that people can willfully throw away civilization.

If we had a functioning edumacational system that taught the truth, we wouldn't be in this situation. Little Billy Ayers is laughing his ass off right about now because he knows he won.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at August 13, 2020 11:22 AM (HaL55)

151 Dammit. I had HOT DOG and HALLWAY in the Secret Service pool. Guess I'm out.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 13, 2020 11:22 AM (uhPTO)

152 139
I am of the opinion that if Trump is re-elected, CW2 starts.

Also, if Biden wins.

Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (ZfRYq)

If Biden loses, there's a non-zero chance that the Democratic
Party's endless ragefest will turn inward on itself, with each faction
blaming every other for the loss.

If that happens, we win by default and the Democratic Party's fall will open a space for a new party to replace it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (DyVwL)
Nov. 4, or when a winner is finally announced, will be sporty regardless of who wins the WH.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (D3cJf)

153 60 miles north of the city, clear to canada is straight up beautiful.
Rivers, mountains, hardwoods, farms...upstate ny is idyllic.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (xaFYH)

154 Since I want to see NYC collapse, I can't see any downside to this story at all.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:06 AM (Kpl3J)

I dont necessarily want that, but sometimes that type of pain is necessary

Posted by: PUE 206 at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (D/SYi)

155 If we had a functioning edumacational system that taught the truth, we wouldn't be in this situation. Little Billy Ayers is laughing his ass off right about now because he knows he won.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at August 13, 2020 11:22 AM (HaL55)
+++++++++
He contributed to the victory, but did not design it. That honor belongs to one of the men who, if I had a time machine, I would smother in the cradle. That man is John Dewey.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (hYcqw)

156 Mayor de Blasio threatens laying off 22K NYC workers if the federal gov't doesn't bail him out -- it's 'painfully real'
________________

And it's your problem. You caused it, you can pay for it, in whatever "painful" ways you choose.

The rest of us are not responsible for your stupid choices, and we shouldn't have to pay for them.

No federal bail outs for these idiots. Not now, not ever.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (k4dH2)

157 I am of the opinion that if Trump is re-elected, CW2 starts.

Also, if Biden wins.
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (ZfRYq)

A very insightful book I read on the First American Civil War was simply titled "1861", about all the events that led up to the outbreak of War later that year.

One of the things I learned was that, contrary to popular belief that the War just sprang out of nowhere, Citizens on *both* sides, North and South, spent the Spring and Early Summer of 1861 massively stocking up on weapons and ammunition, and forming their own miliitia's. That's why as soon as the "Go" signal was given, everyone was ready and went after it. That's why both sides could call up armies seemingly out of nowhere.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (Kpl3J)

158 "What is your identified trigger for Civil War?"

Prolonged dispute over the 2020 election results, due to widespread mail-in voting fraud.

Schlichter's latest column is terrifying. He says military top brass is all woke now. He says our only chance is if the election results are indisputably beyond the margin of cheating.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (qpX6U)

159 If we had a functioning edumacational system that taught the truth, we wouldn't be in this situation. Little Billy Ayers is laughing his ass off right about now because he knows he won.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at August 13, 2020 11:22 AM (HaL55)

A lot of NYC communist types are larpers. It was chic and they never expected it to happen.

As for the non-voters, you asked for this too.

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (ONvIw)

160 If we had a functioning edumacational system that taught the truth, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Oh, bullshit. At a certain point you educate yourself.

Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (gmo/4)

161 New Yorkers elected this guy, if they don't like what he's doing they can elect somebody else to do the job. If they don't, screw them. Personally I'm utterly sick to death reading about New Yorkers and their shit-city. Which seems to be every other post these days. Maybe a name-change is in order? New York of Spades perhaps.

Posted by: Bite The Big Apple, Don't Mind The Maggots at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (+v+zN)

162 Gee, that $850 million his wife wasted on a nebulous, no-result mental health initiative sure would come in handy right about now. . .

Posted by: MS-13 at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (bDqIh)

163 the Duke will straighten all this shit out

Posted by: x at August 13, 2020 11:25 AM (nFwvY)

164 I don't see rising tides of anger. I see rising tides of apathy.

What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Posted by:�deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast�at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (luzVb)

If you do not see rising tides of anger, you are not paying attention.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 13, 2020 11:25 AM (aldSv)

165 What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (luzVb)

__________

For decades I've been saying: "When they come door-to-door for our guns." I think you'd have a split in the military/police who would refuse to do so -- and that would be where the main violence would occur ... initially.

But as much as it feels inevitable now ... I think you're right about the apathy and cowardice of the general populace. I'd rather stay and fight if we can make a go of it (need a William Wallace figure to arise -- perhaps Trump post-Presidency -- to "unite the clans"), but am planning on eventually needing to leave the country if the Dems ever get control again.

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2020 11:25 AM (WqPYg)

166 >>>What is your identified trigger for Civil War?<<<

A catastrophe, either accidental, or, failing accidental, contrived.

Something that can be realistically used as an excuse for nation wide martial law.

Posted by: davidt at August 13, 2020 11:26 AM (l3+k2)

167 117 In Los Angeles they need x number of signatures but Garcetti will not let them go door to door for signatures, pandemic dontcha know.
Posted by: Pliney at August 13, 2020 11:17 AM (YXkwF)

Convenient.

Posted by: Flyover at August 13, 2020 11:26 AM (Rbu5d)

168 At least Lowry gets the grouping right:

Q has a special draw for a segment of Trump supporters. The author's lurid inventions involve people who are already villains of the populist right, the likes of George Soros, John Podesta and the late John McCain. Q promotes a radical distrust of traditional sources of information and makes Trump's stumbles into master chess moves, both of which are pleasing to Trump super-fans.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:26 AM (dNzKv)

169 If that happens, we win by default and the Democratic Party's fall will open a space for a new party to replace it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est

I've been thinking about that for awhile. It's possible that the more centrist voters from both parties will gravitate to a new, centrist party and form a majority. The only problem is that centrists usually get co-opted by the left. However, even assuming that doesn't happen, in the long run the desire to win will take us back to a two party system. With that, <50% of the people are losers, whereas with 3 parties, it could be as much as 66%.

Posted by: pep at August 13, 2020 11:26 AM (v16oJ)

170 Plenty of freaks. Not enough circus.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:27 AM (9gDA7)

171 169 If that happens, we win by default and the Democratic Party's fall will open a space for a new party to replace it.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est

I've been thinking about that for awhile. It's possible that the more centrist voters from both parties will gravitate to a new, centrist party and form a majority. The only problem is that centrists usually get co-opted by the left. However, even assuming that doesn't happen, in the long run the desire to win will take us back to a two party system. With that,
Posted by: pep at August 13, 2020 11:26 AM (v16oJ)

===========

It's hard to tell how that could work out because there have been efforts over the last few years to do just that, but the electoral system of America greatly discourages third parties and most of the "centrist" parties were obviously just cosmopolitan liberals of both parties thumbing their noses up at the hoi polloi.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (LvTSG)

172 Prolonged dispute over the 2020 election results, due to widespread mail-in voting fraud.
....

Imagine a replay of Florida 2000 in multiple swing states controlled by Dem governors.

PA, NV, MI, WI, MN, NC.....

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (Q3ZwH)

173 If it takes sitting here in America praying for rain in a far off chinese (spit) land to destroy their economy due to lack of American action to preserve our freedom and basic security in the world, I'll do that gladly.

Let the rain flow and never stop for weeks in Chongquing. I want to see that damn burst into a billion pieces and wipe away the ChiComs forever.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (67sg6)

174 So, this is the Kamala natural citizen issue: It appears that while she was born here, neither of her parents were US citizens at the time, and it's not currently clear if any of the three of them ever acquired citizenship later.

This is also Newsweek, so I don't know how hard they looked into it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxepackv

Posted by: Methos at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (kOpft)

175 Western Civilization was murdered during WWI.

The last 100 years were the death throes.
Posted by: Flyover at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (Rbu5d)

To carry the analogy farther, it wasn't murder, it was suicide. At it's absolute peak, Western Culture put a gun to it's own head and pulled the trigger.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (Kpl3J)

176 So , All Freak no Circus?

Posted by: eleven at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (XTyi0)

177
Oh, bullshit. At a certain point you educate yourself.
Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (gmo/4)

Not if you don't know any better.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (9gDA7)

178 I'm here.

I really don't understand how these people get elected. It's not like they're hiding what they believe.
Omar basically got re-elected yesterday even though she is a total fraud, spent her campaign cash funding her new "husband", and has done nothing in service to her poor Somali constituents. All the other squad members survived as well.
Their ideas are totally outside the mainstream and completely unworkable and yet because they are Democrat, they get elected by huge majorities of people who consider themselves enlightened.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (sd8p8)

179 157 I am of the opinion that if Trump is re-elected, CW2 starts.

Also, if Biden wins.
Posted by: blaster at August 13, 2020 11:14 AM (ZfRYq)

A very insightful book I read on the First American Civil War was simply titled "1861", about all the events that led up to the outbreak of War later that year.

One of the things I learned was that, contrary to popular belief that the War just sprang out of nowhere, Citizens on *both* sides, North and South, spent the Spring and Early Summer of 1861 massively stocking up on weapons and ammunition, and forming their own miliitia's. That's why as soon as the "Go" signal was given, everyone was ready and went after it. That's why both sides could call up armies seemingly out of nowhere.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (Kpl3J)

Something like Bleeding Kansas gets a lot of people thinking.

Posted by: Someguy at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (Zm+LZ)

180 Harris' is CAVERN

Posted by: AlaBAMA at August 13, 2020 11:03 AM (WvQcX)

You misspelled "SLATTERN"......

Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (jjaLl)

181 Civil War is inevitable.

Honest question: Why?

What is the trigger? I see blue cities falling but this seems to be more of a relocations than an invasion.

Money.

It's not just blue cities. It's entire blue states.
It's not just Detroit, it's Michigan.
It's not just Trenton, it's New Jersey.
It's not just Chicago, it's Illinois.
It's not just LA, it's California.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:29 AM (yCZVl)

182 178 I'm here.

I really don't understand how these people get elected. It's not like they're hiding what they believe.
Omar basically got re-elected yesterday even though she is a total fraud, spent her campaign cash funding her new "husband", and has done nothing in service to her poor Somali constituents. All the other squad members survived as well.
Their ideas are totally outside the mainstream and completely unworkable and yet because they are Democrat, they get elected by huge majorities of people who consider themselves enlightened.
Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (sd8p

==========

"Who else am I going to vote for? A Republican? They hate the gays!"
-Democratic "leaner"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

183 123...
What is your identified trigger for Civil War?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (luzVb)

You are assuming CWII is started by the deplorables.

The insurrectionists will take it to the 'burbs. Someone will pull the trigger, doesn't matterwhich side.

Posted by: Flyover at August 13, 2020 11:29 AM (Rbu5d)

184 the Duke will straighten all this shit out
Posted by: x at August 13, 2020 11:25 AM (nFwvY)

Not without Brain.

Posted by: golfman at August 13, 2020 11:29 AM (Hly4c)

185 Guns? They could come door to door for our five-year-old sons, and most Americans would be saying, "Now, now. Let's not be too hasty."

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:29 AM (j3jZX)

186 141 What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:18 AM (luzVb)
-------------------------------

Armed antifa/blm thugs destroying the inner cities, moving on to city neighborhoods, and then fanning out to the suburbs.

Posted by: Boots at August 13, 2020 11:20 AM (oGBso)

Given that the Democrat party supports *all* of this, I purport we're already in the skirmish phase of a civil war. The mass bloodshed phase will start a bit later.

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (DTX3h)

187 Bite the Big Apple... ditto... tired of New York and it's windbag. They elected him. They can deal with the mess they helped create. Just don't want them trying to import their toxic policies to the places that are headed by people with common sense.
... and the NYT can go to Hell.

Posted by: itsacookbook at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (yPxXc)

188 Bill the Blaze was elected with 13% of the city voting and re-elected by 18% of the city. The problem isn't Bill the Blaze, its all on NYC resident's lack of civic give a fuck. Fuck them. They are the last people you want to defend anything much less civilization. Again, fuck them. Fuck them hard - and Bill the Blaze is just the guy for the job.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (922zJ)

189 With all their casino money, could the Indians buy back Manhattan?

Posted by: boomers remember stuff at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (vI+F1)

190 What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Trump has a clear electoral vote majority on Election Night, declares victory. and then late mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting take away Trump's electoral vote lead a week or two after the election.

Biden declares victory, Trump refuses to accept the obvious election fraud, and the military intervenes to install Biden in the White House.

Bill Kristol and the rest of the "Transition Intregity Project" are explicitly planning for this outcome.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (I2/tG)

191 171

It's hard to tell how that could work out because there have been efforts over the last few years to do just that, but the electoral system of America greatly discourages third parties and most of the "centrist" parties were obviously just cosmopolitan liberals of both parties thumbing their noses up at the hoi polloi.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM

Ironically, the massive increase in third party voting in 2016 handed the election to Donald Trump in numerous states (WI, MI and PA to name a few).

https://bit.ly/2DEv6ej

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (Do5/p)

192 I took my son to NYC in '11 when he was a hs senior. We'd never been, had an absolute blast. It was a jam packed 5 days, couldn't wait to go back. Don't know that I ever will.

Posted by: jhawk90 at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (/ZYFC)

193 What if the corporate HQs start to leave NYC, as the talent can't be attracted to a hellhole, and the rent is too damn high?

The port can't be moved, but digital HQ access might make leaving the big cities easier, and safer. Silicon Valley maybe the same case? idk really, how possible that is. There were the baby bells, will there be baby Googs, baby Amazons, baby Facebooks?

Government used 2008 crisis to make the bad actor mega banks even bigger, and now pandemic fiasco has also harmed the small business most, as BigBox and Online gained market share, and social connections were forced online. Decentralizing would be good ... that is not the trend, even with Trump. (except for the exodus from Riot Towns).

Posted by: illiniwek at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (Cus5s)

194 So, this is the Kamala natural citizen issue: It appears that while she was born here, neither of her parents were US citizens at the time, and it's not currently clear if any of the three of them ever acquired citizenship later.

This is also Newsweek, so I don't know how hard they looked into it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxepackv
Posted by: Methos

It's true. She's an anchor baby.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (yCZVl)

195 And it is worthless nevertrump cucks like Williamson who accept these trivial things as evidence of racist republicans while ignoring the destructive racism of the democrats:

And at least some of those alienated white people are uncomfortable in the GOP because of Republicans' reputation on race.

Of course, the Democrats and their media allies are eager to see spectral evidence of racism everywhere, for obvious reasons. Is it reasonable to detect a racial dynamic when a white Republican president criticizes a nonwhite Democratic member of Congress? It depends: Did he also argue that a federal judge should be disqualified from a case because "he is a Mexican"? (The judge in question was born in Indiana and is of Salvadoran background, but, never mind.) Paul Ryan, who endorsed Donald Trump, was right to call that a "textbook definition" of racism. The bigoted comments about the parents of the late Army captain Humayun Khan, the housing-discrimination settlement from his New York real-estate business, the crazy birther stuff? "The best taco bowls are made in Trump Tower Grill. I love Hispanics!" Enough small impressions eventually make a big mark.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (dNzKv)

196 THUS IT COMMENCES

Posted by: vmom 2020 at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM (S7OC1)

197 >>166
>>>What is your identified trigger for Civil War?<<<

Freshwater availability. If its enough to push a well-policed country like Saudi Arabia to insurrection (and I contend that KSA is running out of water, and will go completely tit-sup fast when it does), it's probably enough for the U.S. (or any other country, for that matter).
Imagine: Water doled out based on race/class.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM (yvnmY)

198
If you do not see rising tides of anger, you are not paying attention.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth

I see anger here. I feel anger.

In public, I see gray, muzzled, compliant masses shuffling from home to grocery , always maintaining that critical 6 foot distance. And this is in a state where masks are NOT mandatory.

Not a lot if Hot Militia action going on. The Squad got re-elected. Whitmer is pretty popular. Murphy is fucking with gym owners mercilessly. Everybody but Newsome's wineries and restaurants are closed. The Dem run cities are ashes.

And the Silent Majority is pretty much just silent.

That's what I see. Happy to be wrong.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM (luzVb)

199 THUS IT COMMENCES
Posted by: vmom 2020 at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM (S7OC1)
++++++
HAHAHAHA. What, do you raise a pinkey when drinking tea, too?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (hYcqw)

200 Civil War 2 is the best-case scenario.

There are worse things than war, death and destruction.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (ifmtJ)

201 These people think that virtue-signaling is costless
- that Portland can pass feel-good laws defunding the cops, eliminating
the police unit that tried to prevent gang killings, and decriminalize
property crime, and there will be no consequences for doing so.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:21 AM (I2/tG)

__________

What the brilliant Thomas Sowell has termed "Stage One Thinking."

These people are literally mental, psychological, and emotional infants. As Dennis Prager recently quipped: "The only difference today between kindergarten and college is the age of the kinder."

Posted by: ShainS at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (WqPYg)

202 Imagine a replay of Florida 2000 in multiple swing states controlled by Dem governors.

PA, NV, MI, WI, MN, NC.....
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:28

That's exactly what's planned. Biden camp didn't hire 600+ lawyers for nothing. Imagine? Get ready for it.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (j3jZX)

203 Congrats, NYC.

You voted for this shit. You RE-ELECTED this shit.

Reap it, losers.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:22 AM (9gDA7)

Here's the problem. The leftist assholes don't learn. They'll move somewhere else to escape the hellhole they voted for and bring their leftist voting with them and destroy that. Their arrogance and stupidity makes them incapable of understanding that asshats like DeCommio are destroying NYC because virtue signaling and being down with the cause is more important.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (9VS7H)

204 >>Biden declares victory, Trump refuses to accept
the obvious election fraud, and the military intervenes to install Biden Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (I2/tG)

This assumes a "military" beholden to a coterie of "woke top brass."
I'm not so sure that military is in place....

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (yvnmY)

205 Biden code name: BASEMENT

Harris: BALLMINDER

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (67sg6)

206 Joe Mannix, I actually do
My pinkie has a mind of its own
Not a team player

Posted by: vmom 2020 at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (S7OC1)

207 174 So, this is the Kamala natural citizen issue: It appears that while she was born here, neither of her parents were US citizens at the time, and it's not currently clear if any of the three of them ever acquired citizenship later.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxepackv
Posted by: Methos at August 13, 2020 11:28 AM (kOpft)

I don't like Kamala, I see no need to take up for her.
But just for the sake of trivia, Wong Kim Ark, SCOTUS in 1898, is exactly on point in her case. She was a citizen from the moment she was born, because of birthright citizenship, and in every Court in the US that makes her a "natural born citizen" eligible to run for higher office.

anything else is just internet wankery. There's better ways to attack her. Btw, the author of that Newsweek piece goes off on what the phrase "Subject to the Jurisdiction of" means, while ignoring the fact that current US Code as well as the last 100 years of Judicial Rulings define very clearly what it means, and it isn't what he thinks it is.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (Kpl3J)

208 Civil War 2: Murder Boogaloo

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (9gDA7)

209 Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses.

There will be a purge of the right from social media with no way to stop it.

Then the new AG will shutdown talk radio.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (Q3ZwH)

210 Breaking News: The only black DNA found in Kamila Harris, belongs to Willie Brown.

Posted by: CSMBigBird at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (X4kyr)

211 It would seem those that assumed themselves Athens have discovered their need of Sparta.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (922zJ)

212 155...
That man is John Dewey.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:23 AM (hYcqw)

Correct.

Posted by: Flyover at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (Rbu5d)

213 200
Civil War 2 is the best-case scenario.

There are worse things than war, death and destruction.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (ifmtJ)

_________

F*ck you too, buddy!

Posted by: Yoko Ono at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (WqPYg)

214

The Associated Press calls this "a rare diplomatic win" for Donald Trump, but the Abraham Agreement is huge. The deal brokered by the Trump administration breaks the Gulf Arab bloc against Israel, a massive diplomatic coup for the White House. The terms of the deal also shows other Arab...

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (dNzKv)

215 >>There are worse things than war, death and destruction. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (ifmtJ)

Discovering that the almost-empty soda can you're drinking from has a cigarette butt in it is one of those things.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (yvnmY)

216 Once again, logic, reasoning, and objective measurement are too boring and difficult for the typical leftist.

Good policy, good outcomes, and good quality of life and totally unconnected in this poor shmuck's mind.

He is the eptiome of feeling dominating reasoning.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (4BMGG)

217

Here's the problem. The leftist assholes don't learn. They'll move somewhere else to escape the hellhole they voted for and bring their leftist voting with them and destroy that. Their arrogance and stupidity makes them incapable of understanding that asshats like DeCommio are destroying NYC because virtue signaling and being down with the cause is more important.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 13, 2020 11:33 AM (9VS7H)

I want a bumper sticker for my truck that says:

Hey Californians. Don't come here and vote for that shit you just left.

I see more Cali license plates here than actual Texas plates lately.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (9gDA7)

218
Biden::SUNDOWN

Harris: GO-DOWN

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (mht8P)

219 What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

Trump has a clear electoral vote majority on Election Night, declares victory. and then late mail-in ballots and ballot harvesting take away Trump's electoral vote lead a week or two after the election.

Biden declares victory, Trump refuses to accept the obvious election fraud, and the military intervenes to install Biden in the White House.

Bill Kristol and the rest of the "Transition Intregity Project" are explicitly planning for this outcome.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (I2/tG)
------------------------------------

Barky spent 8 years replacing top brass in the military with his fellow travelers. We saw a bit of that a couple of weeks ago when President Trump walked over to that burned out church across the street from the White House, and the guy from the Pentagon later apologized for being there!

Posted by: Boots at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (oGBso)

220 The rump is gas-lighting the simple minded.

Posted by: GasLight at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (DBt5/)

221 Don't waste your time on Kamala's eligiblity. Democrats have determined she qualifies. Thus it is written.
We threw away any chance we had of constitutional articles actually being applied when we let Obastard occupy the White House.

Posted by: creeper at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (XxJt1)

222 194 So, this is the Kamala natural citizen issue: It appears that while she was born here, neither of her parents were US citizens at the time, and it's not currently clear if any of the three of them ever acquired citizenship later.

This is also Newsweek, so I don't know how hard they looked into it.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxepackv
Posted by: Methos

It's true. She's an anchor baby.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:30 AM (yCZVl)

Unless Congress and scotus make changes in the law I don't think any of that matters and that the current interpretation is unfortunately that since she was born in the US she is a natural born citizen.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (d0WgS)

223 Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past?

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (y7DUB)

224 215 >>There are worse things than war, death and destruction. Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (ifmtJ)

Discovering that the almost-empty soda can you're drinking from has a cigarette butt in it is one of those things.
Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (yvnmY)

Zod sees the big picture and the little details

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (ifmtJ)

225 TJM, yeah, in a way I get it. My sister says she always votes a straight Dem ticket because Republicans are against abortion.
It just never ceases to amaze me that regardless of who or what the dem stands for, they are going to get her vote. I wonder if it was a Nazi if she would still hold to that view(we are Jewish).

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (sd8p8)

226 >>Q promotes a radical distrust of traditional sources of information and makes Trump's stumbles into master chess moves, both of which are pleasing to Trump super-fans.

No.
The MSM keep saying this, but it won't make it true.
YOU and DC created the radical distrust of traditional sources. Every time you suppressed a story that didn't fit the narrative (e.g. Jeffrey Epstein), every time you mercilesslay attacked someone prominent or off the street for perfectly normal words/thoughs (e.g. Palin) while raising up obviously weird/deviant/ugly people as normal (Hollywood). And so on.

You don't like the Q movement, that took off because it inspired people to crowdsource all the information *you* hide? Too bad.

Posted by: MS-13 at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (bDqIh)

227 LOL @ Yoko Ono

Well-played.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (j3jZX)

228 The apple doesn't rot far from the tree.

Posted by: Dr. Varno at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (vuisn)

229 It's nothing. Just a historic peace plan between Israel and the UAE.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)

230 209
Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses.

There will be a purge of the right from social media with no way to stop it.

Then the new AG will shutdown talk radio.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (Q3ZwH)

__________

BEARS REPEATING. When this blog was down a couple months ago I nearly went into a panic. It then hit me that all conservative presence will be wiped from the interwebs if the Marxists take over.

Posted by: Yoko Ono at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (WqPYg)

231 Freshwater availability. If its enough to push a well-policed country like Saudi Arabia to insurrection (and I contend that KSA is running out of water, and will go completely tit-sup fast when it does), it's probably enough for the U.S. (or any other country, for that matter).
Imagine: Water doled out based on race/class.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM (yvnmY)

The interesting point that you make about KSA is that Iran currently has far greater fresh water problems than the KSA does, and they are far harder to solve. KSA has the available energy to run massive desalination plants, even though that would be very expensive. Iran has created a huge internal crisis through 40 years of gross mismanagement.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)

232 What is your identified trigger for Civil War?
------------------------
Freshwater availability. If its enough to push a well-policed country like Saudi Arabia to insurrection (and I contend that KSA is running out of water, and will go completely tit-sup fast when it does), it's probably enough for the U.S. (or any other country, for that matter).
Imagine: Water doled out based on race/class.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM (yvnmY)

I've seen Fury Road.

I think I'll take my shot at Immortan Joe, and either get him or die trying.

Either way, I'm not going to be planting seeds in the desert.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (hku12)

233 I just asked an Irish colleague of mine about the pronunciation of Celtic.

He says that it is "Keltic" for the pronunciation regarding the people, place, language, culture, etc. - but there is a Scottish soccer team that pronounces it "Seltic" just like our basketball team does. He asserts that the "Seltic" pronunciation is also common, though it is wrong.

So it seems to be the exact same argument on the exact same terms, with the same exceptions, that we have Over Here.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (hYcqw)

234 Why would Kamala declare herself to be an African American if she were not American, duuuuuhhhhh.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (dNzKv)

235 Thing is, the idiots who voted for this are now hightailing it to places that are decent to live in - and they'll vote for the same crap again, destroying the places they move.

They should be looked upon as the locusts they are.

Posted by: aelfheld at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (IxDhF)

236 Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC

Posted by: DB- just DB. at August 13, 2020 11:02 AM

Celtic? That sounds like a stormfront screen name.

Posted by: Bert G at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (OMsf+)

237 229 It's nothing. Just a historic peace plan between Israel and the UAE.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)

=========

Does it involve a prominent Democrat pwning Trump or an obscure Republican saying something vaguely racist?

No, then it's not news.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (LvTSG)

238 Cat Ass Trophy,

The judge in question was a member of La Raza. Doo you have a problem with people wanting to overthrow the government of this country? Do you think judges should be advocating that?

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (JKNZq)

239 I am totally against any inkling of a shooting Civil War. This will be a horrendous event no one on this board will be able to fathom. If you have done any reading of military history at all, you'd see that is a no win situation because a foreign power WILL INVADE.
that being said, if the wheels do come off and the shooting starts, and some of the retarded governors are dumb enough to try to secede or block the Federal government, I hope whoever is sitting in the White House puts out a notice to the world- leave us alone to figure this shit out. Any foreign troops on our land or air incursions will result in nuclear retaliation. The fucking around is over.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (1+Jvs)

240 Schlichter's latest column is terrifying. He says military top brass is all woke now.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (qpX6U)

Fragging makes a comeback?

Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (X/Pw5)

241 Anyone else notice DeBlasio did not ask the Governer of the State of New York for a bailout?

Cuomo pretty much hates DeBlasio in public now, so even Kaiser Wilhelm knows that's a non-starter.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (ZGrMX)

242 Prolonged dispute over the 2020 election results, due to widespread mail-in voting fraud.

By February 2021 the contest will have been decided by SCOTUS... Roberts will cast the deciding vote, selecting Biden as he did in the general election.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (3H9h1)

243 There are worse things than war, death and destruction.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:32 AM (ifmtJ)

Such as surrendering to the collectivists, or living under their system. To borrow some words from Patrick Henry, peace is not so sweet that it is worth purchasing at the price of chains and slavery.

I hate chaos and senseless destruction, but I despise the notion of being ruled with every fiber of my being.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (DyVwL)

244 My sister says she always votes a straight Dem ticket because Republicans are against abortion.

Posted by: Sharon

Tell her, "be glad mom was too".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (yCZVl)

245 Trump announces historic peace deal between Israel and UAE.

Full normalization.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (Q3ZwH)

246 >>Does it involve a prominent Democrat pwning Trump or an obscure Republican saying something vaguely racist?

>>No, then it's not news.

Oddly enough, it is.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (ZLI7S)

247 Harris: BJ
Biden: Bidet

BJ and the Bidet

Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (gmo/4)

248 If we had a functioning edumacational system that taught the truth, we wouldn't be in this situation.

Oh, bullshit. At a certain point you educate yourself.

It's a well-worn Commie trope that if they can indoctrinate the children, they'll never sway from it. You need to look at all the crap they're teaching elementary skool kidz.

"As the twig is bent, so grows the tree."

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Mask Rebel at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (HaL55)

249 You don't like the Q movement, that took off because it inspired people to crowdsource all the information *you* hide? Too bad.
Posted by: MS-13 at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (bDqIh)
++++++++++++
Right. The press created a vacuum by lying constantly about everything. That vacuum will be filled.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (hYcqw)

250 Re: Start of CW2 - Look at the siege they are planning for the White House starting in Sept. The stated goal is to remove Trump, by force if necessary, after 11/3.

What would the country look like if a group large enough to storm the WH and take out Trump actually happened. I have no training and do not want to fight, but something like that would be the start of CW2 for most normal Americans like myself.

Posted by: Eli Cash at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (67sg6)

251 Fragging makes a comeback?
Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (X/Pw5)

And people falling off the boat. You'd be amazed how slippery those things can get in rough seas.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (DyVwL)

252 >>223
Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided
to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past? Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (y7DUB)

It's pretty recent. Much more recent than the nasally appellation, "mang."
"Ees a derecho, mang."

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (yvnmY)

253 What did you find such a blast in NYC? I've never seen anything there any different than in any other city.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (75J6M)

254 244 My sister says she always votes a straight Dem ticket because Republicans are against abortion.

Posted by: Sharon

Tell her, "be glad mom was too".

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (yCZVl)

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Tell her, "I'll be so glad we can still get taxpayer funded abortions when there are no police to protect us from roving bands of white leftists who want to burn everything down."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (LvTSG)

255 223 Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (y7DUB)

It's not new. Just very uncommon. This is like the second time I've heard it. Last time was in like 2011-2012 where it came blowing through Ohio.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (d0WgS)

256 Cuomo's sending Covid patients to nursing homes was nothing more than late term abortions.

Get over it. He saved BILLIONS of dollars, so be HAPPY he murdered your grandparents.

Posted by: Sponge - China is Asshoe! at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (9gDA7)

257 Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM

It was never used before this week, no. Now it's on us like el Nino and la Nina. All of a sudden it's a thing.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (j3jZX)

258 And the Silent Majority is pretty much just silent.

That's what I see. Happy to be wrong.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 11:31 AM

I see the same here in my area of Michigan.

And anger is useless. What matters is how that anger is channeled into action.

Are the angry people going to do anything that matters? And no, driving to Lansing to scream out one's window at buildings is as useless as the Hillary voters who screamed at the sky after she lost.

Voting matters. Parents getting active in their children's schools matters. Citizens getting active in their local government matters.

Taking constructive action is what matters.

As of yet, I don't see any of that happening. Like you, I see people all over complying with the Whitmer mask-mandate and the 'social distancing' and the limit to group gatherings.

As the saying went in Batman, "It's not who I am underneath, it's what I do that defines me."

Same applies here. Doesn't matter if people are angry. What are they *doing* about it?

Other than that one barber here in Michigan and a few Sheriffs who stated they wouldn't enforce the mask-mandates, who else in Michigan is rebelling against anything?

That one woman who got out of her car and brandished a gun at the BLM woman and her daughter who were harassing her? She's now been officially charged, I think.

And that's how they send a message to everyone to conform or else. And so far, it's working. Everyone is conforming.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (Do5/p)

259
I hope whoever is sitting in the White House puts out a notice to the world- leave us alone to figure this shit out. Any foreign troops on our land or air incursions will result in nuclear retaliation.

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The Canadian war machine will overrun New England and New York!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (mht8P)

260 Destroying NYC is part of the plan. Just like destroying Chicago, Portland, Seattle, etc. Destroy and demoralize. Then let ib lots of nice violent muslims, and bam! You have people begging for a police state. They will stay home voluntarily and do ANYTHING the government tells them so they will be "safe".

Case in point: quarantine camps in NZ. 22 people in TOTAL have died in that nation.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (ZCiJZ)

261 They have nobody to blame but themselves. They should pay to fix it and if Diballsio charges an NYC exit tax, they've asked for it.
Posted by: CN

Donald J. Trump personally has millions of his own dollars invested in real estate all over NYC, the five burrroughs.

What do you think he is going to do?

Maybe Donald Trump Jr will run for mayor of NYC.

And remember, that if not for random dick-picks, Anthony Weiner might be mayor of New York right now.

That was kind of Schumer's plan. Weiner was his protege.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (vcOmj)

262 who fucking cares, let it rot and wither, raze the land then salt the earth so nothing ever grows again.

You get the gov you vote for, they are getting it good and hard

Posted by: ElDiabloGigante at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (6jORy)

263 Trump announces historic peace deal between Israel and UAE.

Full normalization.
Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (Q3ZwH)
+++++++++++++
Cool. More, please. The notion of a gigantic "Middle East Peace Plan" that every president since the 60s has pursued is stupid on its face. Multilateralism is for the birds. If you can make a bilateral agreement, do so. Make enough of them, and you get the same results with a lot less headaches and let the early movers win an advantage. If the agreement was bad, fewer people are hurt by it. Bring back bilateral negotiation - in foreign affairs, peace and trade.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (hYcqw)

264 Discovering that the almost-empty soda can you're drinking from has a cigarette butt in it is one of those things.
Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:34 AM (yvnmY)

Zod sees the big picture and the little details
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (ifmtJ)

I'll see your cigarette butt in the can, and raise you one can being used as a chewing tobacco spit cup.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (hku12)

265 "Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses."

Amateur radio. But very few hams like to discuss politics on the air.

Dark web. Don't know how easy it is to shut that down.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (qpX6U)

266 Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided
to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past?

It's been a real meteorological term since at least the 50s or 60s, it's just using it in public is new.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (ZGrMX)

267 253 What did you find such a blast in NYC? I've never seen anything there any different than in any other city.
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The self conceit is monumental. Other than that, meh.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (922zJ)

268 You guys are missing something about Joe picking Kamala.

He's going to have to prove over and over again that he's the real candidate.

She's gonna frag him but obviously convinced him that she wouldn't.

Posted by: MJ at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (gAMkn)

269 Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:37 AM (JKNZq)

I was quoting the Williamson column.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (dNzKv)

270 Trump announces historic peace deal between Israel and UAE.

Obama, Erdogan, and Iran hardest hit.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (ZGrMX)

271 Kosh the Vorlon: "And so, it begins..."

And, for NYC: (song) "Ain't it funny how falling seems like flyin, for a little while."

Posted by: Brewingfrog at August 13, 2020 11:41 AM (bzBJx)

272 Why would Kamala declare herself to be an African American if she were not American, duuuuuhhhhh.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

Same reason Obama did.
Same reason Martin Luther Cream does.

Bennies. Affirmative Action. Victimhood.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:42 AM (yCZVl)

273 What the brilliant Thomas Sowell has termed "Stage One Thinking."

Portland doubled the size of its police department in the early 1990's. There had been a spate of gang killings, which culminated in a drive-by gang murder, at noon, in the middle of downtown Portland, as hundreds of office workers scrambled to get out of the way of the flying bullets.

The Portland elites decided that enough was enough, and that Portland needed to spend a lot more on policing. Good luck getting that sort of consensus today as crime spirals out of control in Portland.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:42 AM (I2/tG)

274 Expect the left to spin up a "Trump is antisemitic" trope soon.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 13, 2020 11:42 AM (dNzKv)

275 "[derecho] was never used before this week, no."

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:42 AM (qpX6U)

276 Using the Spanish word for "right" is some new thing? Derecho?

So start calling the izcaduras.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at August 13, 2020 11:42 AM (75J6M)

277 Whiskey Tango Foxtrot Oscar

Infants contingency think better. Sad.

Or is this master contingency thinking on behalf of Marxists?

I will chalk this shit up to Powers and Principalities and welcome the Apocalypse.

Posted by: Denny Crane! at August 13, 2020 11:42 AM (1eJby)

278 >>Obama, Erdogan, and Iran hardest hit.

Joke Biden and NeverTrumpers hardest hit.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (ZLI7S)

279 >>The Canadian war machine will overrun New England and New York! Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (mht8P)

The Canadian conquerors will assign new names to American captives. New, weird, Canadian, hobbit-sounding names.
"You are no longer Bob. Your new name is 'Geddy.' And you, your name is no longer Susan. You are now 'Gwynt.'"
A generation of subservient American children, traumatized by being assigned not-very-good-Scrabble-hand kinds of names.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

280 read commentary recently(maybe here) that made the point that until the money dries up, nothing will change. We are just trading one deep state for another while there is money to grift. All anyone has to do is hold out until there is a change in the administration and it is back to business as usual. If the money flees NY and doesn't come back, their might be change. But if Biden wins, there is renewed hope for the grift to resume. The leviathan has to die in order for us to truly fix these problems. No one person can do it.
Posted by: DrC at August 13, 2020 11:10 AM (vbaS

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People should study Detroit. After the riots (1867) there was "white flight", and the city changed who ran it. The result was that instead of whites looting the government and getting rich, now blacks were in power and they were looting the government and getting rich. So basically the problem is the people-White or black, corruption is inevitable.

Posted by: Chillin the most at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (lonOK)

281 "Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses."

Homing pigeons.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (yCZVl)

282 278 >>Obama, Erdogan, and Iran hardest hit.

Joke Biden and NeverTrumpers hardest hit.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (ZLI7S)

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I was assured that we'd have nuclear war if Trump won the presidency.

I was assured!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (LvTSG)

283 The Canadian war machine will overrun New England and New York!
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Then the problem is solved. Let's give them to Canada.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (922zJ)

284 237 229 It's nothing. Just a historic peace plan between Israel and the UAE.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)

Those of us who've been watching have been pointing out that there's been a de-facto military alliance between Saudi Arabia and Israel for at least 3 years now. The UAE are the KSA's junior partners in almost everything, so it's to be expected that they would follow Crown Prince Salman's lead here. (remember how the left used to put a lot of effort into demonizing him? There was a reason.)

Ironically, we can probably think Obama for all of this. His Mega-Deal with Iran scared both the Saudi's and the Israeli's so much that they realized they both needed to cut a deal with each other, since neither of them could be sure of US protection any more.

The best side benefit of all of this - Support for the Palestinians in the Arab world has dropped to zero. Nobody even tries to prop them up anymore (Now that Iran is broke, too) except the Euro-Trash, still hoping for that Final Solution they've never given up on.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:44 AM (Kpl3J)

285 >>I'll see your cigarette butt in the can, and raise you one can being used as a chewing tobacco spit cup. Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (hku12)

The victory is yours.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:44 AM (yvnmY)

286 Well, Governor Blackface is at it again. This is the latest in a 30 year campaign to destroy the nation's best high school. My guess is that they'll succeed this time.

I fought the battle for 15 years, but my kids are grown now, and it's someone else's turn.

https://tinyurl.com/y4f7v977

Posted by: pep at August 13, 2020 11:44 AM (v16oJ)

287 Thanks for the derecho feedback. Btw Buzzion, when you're not dead do you reside in SW Ahia?

AH Lloyd's book just arrived on the Spanish Civil war; if I wasn't so engrossed in VDH's book on the Peloponnesian war, recommended by NaCly Dog, I'd start it immediately.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:44 AM (y7DUB)

288 There's a Canadian war machine? Does it look like Trudeau in an Indian outfit?

Posted by: Ian S. at August 13, 2020 11:44 AM (ZGrMX)

289 Who'd have guessed it would be SF?

Scott Wiener [cough] the same one who co-sponsored the (passed) bill to remove felony penalty from knowingly spreading AIDS, now has introduced senate bill 145, to make it ok for gay men to diddle 14 year old children. Because straight men get away with it all the time or something.

But of course.

https://tinyurl.com/yxtds523

I'm assuming besides being a pervert, his seat is being challenged - "from the left"?!?!? - by native American hispanic lesbian queer educator 25 yr old Jackie Fielder. So obviously he needs to show he's not just an out touch boomer. Addressing the needs of pedos and grooming a new generation.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (8B6Ng)

290 Posted by: Bite The Big Apple, Don't Mind The Maggots at August 13, 2020 11:24 AM (+v+zN)

Hotair.com has a vibrant comments section.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (xT2tT)

291 Trump announces historic peace deal between Israel and UAE.

Bibi suddenly walked out of a coronavirus cabinet meeting, saying "you'll find out soon why I'm leaving".

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (I2/tG)

292 Actually, I never talk politics with my sisters. It is a lost cause.
The last time I did, I was arguing that poor inner city white kids or poor Appalachian white kids deserved a hand up as much as blacks because of poverty, not skin color and the looks I got taught me to not even try and make a coherent argument.
So, because I do love them, I never talk politics with my sisters.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (sd8p8)

293
257 Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past?
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM

It was never used before this week, no. Now it's on us like el Nino and la Nina. All of a sudden it's a thing.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:39 AM (j3jZX)

I bet you're wrong.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (d0WgS)

294 People should study Detroit. After the riots (1867) there was "white flight"...

actually it took about a century before that really got going.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (Kpl3J)

295 There's a Canadian war machine? Does it look like Trudeau in an Indian outfit?
Posted by: Ian S. at August 13, 2020 11:44 AM (ZGrMX)
++++++
Canada has a real military. It doesn't have much in the way of force projection, but they have armed forces and they fight. They fight with us, in every conflict.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)

296 >>I was assured that we'd have nuclear war if Trump won the presidency.

>>I was assured!

Donald Trump, peace maker.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)

297 >Obama, Erdogan, and Iran hardest hit.

Joke Biden and NeverTrumpers hardest hit.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (ZLI7S)

The Conservative Case for Nuclear Conflict in the Middle East

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:46 AM (y7DUB)

298 223> The use of the word derecho in weather forecasting circles has been widespread for years. It is the Spanish word for straight... as in straight line winds.

Several years ago a derecho was spawned in the mid-west and moved at tremendous speed into the Appalachians causing widespread damage and power outages. I had the unreal experience of driving through it. Like a massive, never ending tornado.

Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 13, 2020 11:46 AM (3H9h1)

299 In fact I'm so sure you're wrong I've got proof. Proof that is 100%unimpeachable and you will admit my correctness without question.

Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:46 AM (d0WgS)

300 297 The Conservative Case for Nuclear Conflict in the Middle East
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:46 AM (y7DUB)

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I'm really hoping to see David French's conservative case for Kamala Harris soon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at August 13, 2020 11:47 AM (LvTSG)

301 Re: Start of CW2 - Look at the siege they are planning for the White House starting in Sept. The stated goal is to remove Trump, by force if necessary, after 11/3.

Pro tip: ALWAYS leave yourself a way out.

Bad juju to pen yourself between a fence and armed patriots.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:47 AM (yCZVl)

302 re the Israel/UAE deal: how long before someone connected to the Obama admin tries to get it scuttled?

Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 13, 2020 11:47 AM (4a9Vv)

303
Support for the Palestinians in the Arab world has dropped to zero.

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Privately, the Palis have always been zeroes in the Arab world. They're like your ne'er-do-well drunken druggie brother who's always sponging off you.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:47 AM (mht8P)

304 begins it does

Posted by: DB- just DB. at August 13, 2020 11:47 AM (iTXRQ)

305 The Canadian war machine will overrun New England and New York!

With their hockey hullabaloo and gravy on fries...

Posted by: Archer at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (gmo/4)

306 AH Lloyd's book just arrived on the Spanish Civil war; if I wasn't so engrossed in VDH's book on the Peloponnesian war, recommended by NaCly Dog, I'd start it immediately.
Posted by: Captain Hate

"A War Like No Other" by VDH ?

Read that years ago. If you want to read some interesting fiction about the Peloponnesian War, read "The Tides of War" by Steven Pressfield.

Even though it is novelized fiction of the war, it actually made large parts of it sensible, as he gave it a narrative that put a lot of the events in perspective.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (vcOmj)

307 Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM

You're probably right. I just never hear it before, and I'm kind of a weather nut.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (j3jZX)

308 People should study Detroit. After the riots (1867) there was "white flight"...

actually it took about a century before that really got going.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:45 AM (Kpl3J)

Tigers were only middling that year.

Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (X/Pw5)

309 She's an anchor baby.

Anchor Baby
Just push it out while you're in D.C.
You'll see
You'll be a citizen too
Anchor Baby
So bring it into the world tonight

Posted by: Joan Javits first draft at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (Gv2SJ)

310 >>"Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses."

*Waits for Mandela Funeral Sign Language Guy*

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (C159O)

311 re 300: twitchy noted yesterday that a Wash Post op piece called Harris a "small c conservative"

Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (4a9Vv)

312 Whew. Today's latest work drama....doesn't actually affect me.

Boss's boss is leaving company.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:49 AM (ifmtJ)

313 >>The interesting point that you make about KSA is
that Iran currently has far greater fresh water problems than the KSA
does, and they are far harder to solve. KSA has the available energy
to run massive desalination plants Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (Kpl3J)

Desalination of the Persian Gulf, which it's been doing for decades. The Strait is shallow, so recirculation from the Indian Ocean isn't occurring quickly enough. Not to mention that, as you allude to, the expense of doing so is prohibitive--it's not that they can't afford to financially, they simply don't have the energy heft to do so.
KSA freshwater aquifers are tapped (thanks, KSA, for trying to challenge the world to a "grow wheat in the desert" race in the 1970s).
From a water perspective, they're horsefucked. Wait until the Shiites in the Eastern Province start to feel the pinch. Getting oil out of Ghawar will be....challenging.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:49 AM (ZS9TG)

314 229 It's nothing. Just a historic peace plan between Israel and the UAE.
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Trump also made it clear that other ME countries are likely to follow suit. That's really encouraging to hear. I hope it all comes to fruition.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 13, 2020 11:49 AM (sWM8x)

315 twitchy noted yesterday that a Wash Post op piece called Harris a "small c conservative"
Posted by: Kamala Harris at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (4a9Vv)
+++++
They can say whatever they want. But I watched the farcical debates and I, like everyone else who watched (and everyone who sees a Trump campaign ad, I reckon) saw her hand go up with all the others when asked whether they wanted open borders and universal healthcare for all comers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)

316 I saw Canadian War Machine open for Miami Sound Machine in 86.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (j3jZX)

317 >>Canada has a real military. It doesn't have much in the way of force projection, but they have armed forces and they fight. They fight with us, in every conflict.

Only because our Intel Services lie to them about the Commies and their plans for the Maples.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (C159O)

318 You're probably right. I just never hear it before, and I'm kind of a weather nut.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist

Sometimes you feel like a nut
Sometimes you don't

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (vcOmj)

319 "Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses."

Better not be smoke signals. Cultural Appropriation, you know.

Posted by: Lizzy Warren at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (l3+k2)

320
A generation of subservient American children, traumatized by being assigned not-very-good-Scrabble-hand kinds of names.
Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:43 AM (ZS9TG)

And they would be constantly apologizing. But very polite.

Someone mentioned Kurt Schlicter's latest article about how the military might enable a coup against Trump. I'm not so quick to agree with the Colonel on this, having a bit of military experience myself. I think his premise is correct- generals are political creatures- but they always have been. But the word is out amongst the force- those company and field grade officers who enforce their orders- that the best and brightest are not GOs today. We don't have any Marshalls or Eisenhowers in the force. But we have a LOT of conservative and disinterested officers and NCOs who believe in America- that would be the Constitution. And they are the ones that will execute decisions.
I think the military will do what they always do- stand by, keep training, making training powerpoint slides, and sharpening their e-tools. That is the only way the Republic is preserved. Any action by them interfering in the process invalidates everything. And then all bets are off.

Posted by: Secret Squirrel at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (1+Jvs)

321
Canada has a real military. It doesn't have much in the way of force projection, but they have armed forces and they fight

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I was joking more about their leaders than their military. Canada's contributions in the world wars was valiant but now largely forgotten.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (mht8P)

322 Proof beyond all other sources.

Super Derecho Rips Eastern US

June 30, 2012

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=%20330615

Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (G2zl5)

323 Actually, I never talk politics with my sisters. It is a lost cause.
The last time I did, I was arguing that poor inner city white kids or poor Appalachian white kids deserved a hand up as much as blacks because of poverty, not skin color and the looks I got taught me to not even try and make a coherent argument.
So, because I do love them, I never talk politics with my sisters.
Posted by: Sharon

It's the same way with most every cousin I have.

It not that I don't talk politics with them.
I simply don't talk to them.

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (yCZVl)

324 Good. Let it rot, they voted for this... yada yada yada.

Hello? Schadenboners are very pleasurable. But the thing is, after voting for destruction, the residents of those "progressive" cities then flee those cities. And a lot of them move to red states where the normies live. And then they proceed to keep voting for Democrats, and gradually, oh so gradually, the town or city or state you grew up in gets the progressive rot, too.

Gloat while you can. But the rot spreads.

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (786Ro)

325 I always enjoy the comments about how "I hope NYC dies" or basically . "I hope every big city dies." So uplifting. So very, very uplifting. /s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (WkPC9)

326 301 Re: Start of CW2 - Look at the siege they are planning for the White House starting in Sept. The stated goal is to remove Trump, by force if necessary, after 11/3.

Pro tip: ALWAYS leave yourself a way out.

Bad juju to pen yourself between a fence and armed patriots.
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A couple of 81mm mortars is all that is necessary to clear the area. They can be fired from VA and the Washington Monument would make a wonderful Forward Observer position. If anyone ask questions merely state that a You Tube Video disrespected you and caused a spontaneous riot of crew served weapons. No way the media will question that.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:51 AM (922zJ)

327 The Canadian war machine will overrun New England and New York!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (mht8P)

Too bad people don't remember Viva Max ( a group of sad sack Mexican soldiers invade and retake the Alamo) It really is quite hilariously funny, even more so when you know how many "Texas" things they poke fun at. (that outsiders would never even get)

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:51 AM (Kpl3J)

328 crap, forgot to drop the Kamala sock

Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 13, 2020 11:51 AM (4a9Vv)

329 The Canadian war machine will overrun New England and New York!

Mark Steyn likes to point out that in 1939, before the US reinstated the draft, Canada was the dominant North American military power.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 13, 2020 11:51 AM (I2/tG)

330 CAT,
Sorry, I've gotten used to otherwise sensible people going nutso

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:51 AM (JKNZq)

331 Super Derecho Rips Eastern US

June 30, 2012

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=%20330615
Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (G2zl5)

Should be "Super Derecho Bean Burrito Rips Eastern US"

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (Kpl3J)

332 I knew how to deal with demonstrators in Washington.

Posted by: Zombie George S, Patton! at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (I2/tG)

333 The Canadian War Machine?

Is that like Bare Naked Ladies?

I think there are more licensed hunters in Michigan than there are soldiers in the Canadian Army.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (vcOmj)

334 I was joking more about their leaders than their military. Canada's contributions in the world wars was valiant but now largely forgotten.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (mht8P)
++++
Yeah. Like us, their leadership is shit. And also yeah, Canadians kicked ass in Europe. And they had a better propaganda girl. We had Rosie the Riveter. They had Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl. She was wildly superior:
https://tinyurl.com/y3tfqbhb

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)

335 "244 My sister says she always votes a straight Dem ticket because Republicans are against abortion.
Posted by: Sharon"
******
I've been voting straight Republican for the same reason.

Posted by: Cosda at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (FSSve)

336 As for nobody doing nothing, it's probably not much, but here in blue WA state, we just put up a candidate that no one really knows anything about other than he defied Inslee. That was enough to rally people around him in a field of 36 candidates. I'm still amazed we have a Republican in the race for the governor, instead of two Dems.

Posted by: notsothoreau at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (JKNZq)

337 I think we need a dollar crash before a hot civil war starts. We seem to be well on the way to that as well.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 13, 2020 11:53 AM (svbBD)

338 Mark Steyn likes to point out that in 1939, before the US reinstated the draft, Canada was the dominant North American military power.
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Canada was a colony of the British Empire which was getting its ass handed to itself in 1939.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:53 AM (922zJ)

339 "Our side better figure out how we're going to continue mass communication if Trump loses."

*Waits for Mandela Funeral Sign Language Guy*
Posted by: garrett

Right index finger in left palm, tap, tap, tap. Hook 'em Horns. "OK" sign, index finger of other hand through the hole, open palm vertical squiggle, twice. Devil horns. Dolphin leaps right to left then left to right. Two fingers up bunny hop, hands in armpits flap elbows, flap, flap. Thumb and finger "L" to forehead, tap, tap, tap, squiggle, mark of Zorro in the air, hesitate, catch breath.

Thumbs in ears waggle fingers, thumb and pinkie "Hang Loose" waggle

Posted by: Mandela funeral fake sign language guy at August 13, 2020 11:53 AM (yCZVl)

340 The Conservative Case for Nuclear Conflict in the Middle East
Posted by: Captain Hate

That's so 2006.

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2020 11:53 AM (786Ro)

341
Mayor de Blasio threatens laying off 22K NYC workers if the federal gov't doesn't bail him out -- it's 'painfully real'

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Well it is a start.
Also Willem wife spen.... er grafted almost a billion dollars for some social BS that she just lost track of. Funny how that always happens to leftists. She should check her other air of pants for the money.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (pw+jk)

342 "A War Like No Other" by VDH ?

Read that years ago. If you want to read some interesting fiction about the Peloponnesian War, read "The Tides of War" by Steven Pressfield.

Even though it is novelized fiction of the war, it actually made large parts of it sensible, as he gave it a narrative that put a lot of the events in perspective.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 11:48 AM (vcOmj)

Yes that's the one. I was complaining on the book thread that although Thucydides gives a comprehensive account of the war I'm constantly confused on why some of the places sided with Athens and others with Sparta. Even though Thucydides was Athenian, he's objective enough in his tale telling to inform me that Athens being just like us has been a long term con job. But I still needed more info and VDH seems up to the task.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (y7DUB)

343 I think the hedge fund guy who made bank in 'The Big Short' is into water futures now.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (ifmtJ)

344 Fenlon, I hear you.

That said, I don't hope they die. I hope they feel enough pain to change. Bail them out and they'll never hit that rock bottom every addict needs.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (j3jZX)

345 It was only a matter of time.

Posted by: garrett at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (C159O)

346 I think we need a dollar crash before a hot civil war starts. We seem to be well on the way to that as well.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 13, 2020 11:53 AM (svbBD)

Money printer go brrrrr.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (DyVwL)

347 I think we need a dollar crash before a hot civil war starts. We seem to be well on the way to that as well.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 13, 2020 11:53 AM (svbBD)

That could be the trigger.

Posted by: Last Days of the Republic. at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (Q3ZwH)

348 329. Intermittently, that may be true. But from the Mexican-American War on, I really do not think Canada was always the superior military.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (svbBD)

349 >>325
I always enjoy the comments about how "I hope NYC dies" or basically .
"I hope every big city dies." So uplifting. So very, very uplifting. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (WkPC9)

We have that in common.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (ZS9TG)

350 332 I knew how to deal with demonstrators in Washington.
Posted by: Zombie George S, Patton!
----------------------
I think you meant Zombie Douglas MacArthur.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (922zJ)

351 Super Derecho would be cool name for a Mexican masked luchador wrestler

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (786Ro)

352 Thanks, Buzz. Glad I didn't bet on it!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (j3jZX)

353 always close/layoff the services that effect the taxpayer the MOST. major play in commie playbook. remember Obama closing outdoor memorials during his gov't shutdown.

Posted by: projection on steroids at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (V9NdA)

354 I watched the farcical debates and I, like everyone else who watched (and everyone who sees a Trump campaign ad, I reckon) saw her hand go up with all the others when asked whether they wanted open borders and universal healthcare for all comers.
___________________

We can't afford universal healthcare for all American citizens, but somehow providing it for all the world won't be any problem.

Totes makes sense.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 13, 2020 11:56 AM (k4dH2)

355 "I think we need a dollar crash before a hot civil war starts."

Eight trillion dollars printed in four years, and yet the music keeps playing. I can't explain it.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:56 AM (qpX6U)

356 I always enjoy the comments about how "I hope NYC dies" or basically .
"I hope every big city dies." So uplifting. So very, very uplifting. /s

I know how bad that statement sounds about cities dying, but it's hard when you're near a city like that. I lived the bulk of my life in Metro Detroit. For decades, Coleman Young was mayor. He was a criminal and hated the white man with a passion. He deliberately and proudly drove white businesses out of Detroit, and turned that once great city into a cesspool. In the meantime, it seems like the suburbs always had to support Detroit one way or another-- primarily financially--because that city had no tax base. After a while it got tiring and costly.

So when people say "I hope it fails" I think they're just frustrated with the decades of Democrat policies that hurt the decent people and enable criminals and welfare cheats. And then being forced to financially bail them out through things like taxes. Many of these big cities are money pits and the ones that are paying the bills get no benefit from them.

Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 13, 2020 11:57 AM (ZCiJZ)

357 350: I want the denizens of nyc to get their heads out of their asses and fix their own mess. If they won't I do not want the bill for their social experiments

Posted by: CN at August 13, 2020 11:57 AM (ONvIw)

358 349 329. Intermittently, that may be true. But from the Mexican-American War on, I really do not think Canada was always the superior military.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (svbBD)

The US didn't maintain a standing army. So Steyn is talking about those periods where the US army effectively disbanded in between wars.

Posted by: Someguy at August 13, 2020 11:57 AM (Zm+LZ)

359 Eight trillion dollars printed in four years, and yet the music keeps playing. I can't explain it.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 11:56 AM (qpX6U)

The value of the dollar goes down and everything adjusts. The exchange of goods and services continue with bigger numbers.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 13, 2020 11:57 AM (xfb67)

360 We can't afford universal healthcare.

But then again, we can't afford two "stimulus" checks and perpetually inflated unemployemt payments, either. Yet there it is.

Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2020 11:58 AM (786Ro)

361 Super Derecho would be cool name for a Mexican masked luchador wrestler
Posted by: Hands at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (786Ro)

Or a Taco Smell burrito box.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:58 AM (y7DUB)

362 I think you meant Zombie Douglas MacArthur.

MacArthur commanded the operation, but Major Patton commanded the tanks.

Tanks are always useful in civil disturbances.

Posted by: Zombie George S. Patton! at August 13, 2020 11:58 AM (I2/tG)

363 Nood Israeli UAE peace deal

Posted by: Someguy at August 13, 2020 11:58 AM (Zm+LZ)

364 It's the same way with most every cousin I have.

It not that I don't talk politics with them.
I simply don't talk to them.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (yCZVl)

I get along with my relatives, even the very liberal ones. It's because we have the sense that everyone *Used* to have, years ago. We talk about the weather, or funny stories we heard, or children. We *Never* talk about politics or religion or anything like that. None of us need to say "I would talk politics with you, but then I'd have to kill you." It just goes without saying.

Any who even start to cross that line with me find out very quickly why they shouldn't. Last one was the brother in law who was all concerned about Overpopulation. I showed him why, if that was his concern, then he absolutely needed to focus on getting rid of all the surplus Brown and Black babies in the world. He never tried talking to me about it again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 13, 2020 11:58 AM (Kpl3J)

365 But then again, we can't afford two "stimulus" checks and perpetually inflated unemployemt payments, either. Yet there it is.
Posted by: Hands

You got two checks?

Posted by: rickb223 at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM (yCZVl)

366 They can say whatever they want. But I watched the
farcical debates and I, like everyone else who watched (and everyone who
sees a Trump campaign ad, I reckon) saw her hand go up with all the
others when asked whether they wanted open borders and universal
healthcare for all comers.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)

===
Well to the media that is a small c conservative. Stalin would be a small c conservative to them.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM (pw+jk)

367 Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:54 AM (j3jZX)

No; I don't think they should be bailed out and I didn't think you were one of the one saying "Let them all die" or "nuke them" .I think some people don't realize that the death of cities will not affect only their particular state, but as someone noted above the people will flee and take their love of leftist policies with them. I mean, if liberal Dallas and Austin go down that's not going to affect any other part of the state? It's the state equivalent idea of "no man is an island."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM (WkPC9)

368 >>So when people say "I hope it fails" I think they're
just frustrated with the decades of Democrat policies that hurt the
decent people and enable criminals and welfare cheats. Posted by: shibumi, living in Clown World at August 13, 2020 11:57 AM (ZCiJZ)

That's true for some.
For others, the desired outcome is less salutary and more sanguinary.

Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM (ZS9TG)

369 Every year I learn a new word I never wanted to learn.

This year, Hooping.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM (j3jZX)

370 The value of the dollar goes down and everything adjusts. The exchange of goods and services continue with bigger numbers.
---------------------
Its always how you pay off debt - with cheaper currency.

Posted by: Puddin Head at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM (922zJ)

371 Yeah. Like us, their leadership is shit. And also
yeah, Canadians kicked ass in Europe. And they had a better propaganda
girl. We had Rosie the Riveter. They had Ronnie the Bren Gun Girl. She
was wildly superior:

https://tinyurl.com/y3tfqbhb

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at August 13, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)

Yeah gotta love it, building machine guns and having a smoke.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 13, 2020 12:00 PM (9Om/r)

372 think the military will do what they always do- stand by, keep training, making training powerpoint slides, and sharpening their e-tools. That is the only way the Republic is preserved. Any action by them interfering in the process invalidates everything. And then all bets are off.
---------
The officer ranks were purged by Obama. I watched it happen every day while it was going on.
Schlicter is correct. The military leadership is woke. Look at Mattis and all the other mcofficers if you have a doubt. And despite all the brave talk, soldiers follow orders. That is their training. If they are told to round people up, virtually all of them will follow orders.

Posted by: DrC at August 13, 2020 12:00 PM (vbaSG)

373 299 In fact I'm so sure you're wrong I've got proof. Proof that is 100%unimpeachable and you will admit my correctness without question.
Posted by: Buzzion at August 13, 2020 11:46 AM (d0WgS)

The Dead Man channels Zod. Interesting...

Posted by: browndog at August 13, 2020 12:00 PM (BgMrQ)

374 "I always enjoy the comments about how "I hope NYC dies" or basically "I hope every big city dies." So uplifting. So very, very uplifting. /s"

Bless you Fenelon, but the only uplifting content at AoSHQ is scheduled on Saturdays I think. Maybe the new daily fruit bat posts too.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 12:00 PM (qpX6U)

375 Note that to Portland's mayor, the important issue is not preventing the
murder of people by arson, it's that those people dying in a fire
might get Trump re-elected. Only a true psychopath thinks like that.

The
Democratic governors of NY, NJ, PA, and MI are such psychopathic mass
murderers, who slaughtered more than 15,000 helpless elderly people,
that, by comparison, they make Jeffrey Dhamer look like some harmless guy who just had
friends for dinner.

Posted by: An Observation at August 13, 2020 12:01 PM (iisbs)

376 Hot Air button status: Functional.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at August 13, 2020 12:02 PM (luzVb)

377 Remember when DeBlasio was telling the cameras/nation that PDT was full of ---- that the covid was a danger, and exhorting everyone in NYC to gather and mingle in a pile at Chinese New Year? Good times.

Posted by: Gilded Age II at August 13, 2020 12:03 PM (BRkq2)

378 368

No; I don't think they should be bailed out and I didn't think you were one of the one saying "Let them all die" or "nuke them" .I think some people don't realize that the death of cities will not affect only their particular state, but as someone noted above the people will flee and take their love of leftist policies with them. I mean, if liberal Dallas and Austin go down that's not going to affect any other part of the state? It's the state equivalent idea of "no man is an island."

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2020 11:59 AM

I'm with you, FenelonSpoke, on the "let them die" attitude.

I much prefer the nurse ratched attitude.

"I hate that these motherfuckers have destroyed MY CITY! I am NOT leaving. I will stay here and be a solution to rebuild this city."

But I guess most people prefer bumper sticker politics of "let it burn" without wanting to bother themselves with thinking of the consequences of that or coming up with actual solutions.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 13, 2020 12:03 PM (Do5/p)

379 I get along with my relatives, even the very liberal ones. It's because we have the sense that everyone *Used* to have, years ago. We talk about the weather, or funny stories we heard, or children. We *Never* talk about politics or religion or anything like that. None of us need to say "I would talk politics with you, but then I'd have to kill you." It just goes without saying.

I'm older than Vic and I can remember it being conventional wisdom of my parents generation that you shouldn't discuss politics or religion in polite society. I guess most of my generation were too fucking stupid to learn that.

Also "children should be seen and not heard" went down the shitter a long time ago.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 12:03 PM (y7DUB)

380 "It's the same way with most every cousin I have. It not that I don't talk politics with them. I simply don't talk to them."

I stopped interacting with people IRL a year ago. I just can't bear it anymore. I am fully hermitized. Other than with cashiers and other purely transactional encounters, I don't talk to anybody anymore.

Posted by: gp, Hooping Fentanyl Again at August 13, 2020 12:03 PM (qpX6U)

381 Fenlon, I hear you.

That said, I don't hope they die. I hope they feel enough pain to change. Bail them out and they'll never hit that rock bottom every addict needs.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist

No, New York City won't change. Even money says that the next Mayor of New York City will be to the Left of DeBlasio. He is ethnically cleansing the city of the White middle and upper class. What will be left will be the true believer Leftists. Minorities, etc, that will clamor for "More!".

It is tragic, but you can't stop it. Giuliani barely beat Dinkins back in his first race. And the hate campaign by the Left never has stopped regarding Giuliani. Ed Koch personally went on a anti-Giuliani hate campaign for years. Wrote a book (hatchet job) about him called "Nasty Man". Real prince of a guy, that Koch.
There is no political ballast in the NYC electorate to vote in another Giuliani, and there is no political base for anyone like him to stand on.

At the end of "Atlas Shrugs", as Dagny, John Galt, etc are getting away, NYC goes dark. Prophetic, but that's the future of NYC.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (vcOmj)

382 I always enjoy the comments about how "I hope NYC dies" or basically .
"I hope every big city dies." So uplifting. So very, very uplifting. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 13, 2020 11:50 AM (WkPC9)

We have that in common.
Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020 11:55 AM (ZS9TG)

Wars of course, have casualties.

To many, being on the outside looking in to what is happening in American cities is like watching Mt. Vesuvius boiling up, and seeing all the residents of Pompeii standing around like they haven't a care in the world.

You're welcome to get out.

But don't be asking me to buy you an umbrella to protect you from the hot molten ash that is coming your way.

Do I want you to die? No. But I understand people outside the cities thinking you deserve it if you don't get out while you can.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)

383 crap, forgot to drop the Kamala sock
Posted by: mallfly the Peach of Hoboken at August 13, 2020 11:51 AM (4a9Vv)

Mmmm, crusty.

Posted by: clutch cargo at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (8B6Ng)

384 Fenlon, I know you weren't directing that toward me, because that's never been my rhetoric. I was just trying to explain why I think people use rhetoric like that.

I hope I'm right, and that nobody wants more Detroits, but really want more pain leading to awakening.

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (j3jZX)

385 It's nothing. Just a historic peace plan between Israel and the UAE.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 13, 2020 11:36 AM (ZLI7S)
~~~~~

I thought so too, but was ignored.

Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (sGotD)

386 I read that about 2000 families pay over 50% of NYC taxes. Do not know if that is true.

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (JFO2v)

387 At the end of "Atlas Shrugs", as Dagny, John Galt, etc are getting away, NYC goes dark. Prophetic, but that's the future of NYC.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (vcOmj)

Escape from New York New York

Posted by: rhennigantx at August 13, 2020 12:05 PM (JFO2v)

388 Question: is derecho the latest Spanglish word the enemedia has decided
to impose on us or did I somehow manage to avoid its usage in the past? Posted by: Captain Hate at August 13, 2020 11:35 AM (y7DUB)

It's pretty recent. Much more recent than the nasally appellation, "mang."
"Ees a derecho, mang."
Posted by: Zod at August 13, 2020

*
*

It's the Spanish word for "right," as opposed to "izquierda," "left." Apparently the "news" creatures are pronouncing it "derrick-oh."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 13, 2020 12:06 PM (rpbg1)

389 243...
I hate chaos and senseless destruction, but I despise the notion of being ruled with every fiber of my being.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 13, 2020 11:38 AM (DyVwL)

Which is why I do not, will not, wear a mask.

Masking is a dress rehearsal for things much, much worse.

Posted by: Flyover at August 13, 2020 12:06 PM (Rbu5d)

390 At the end of "Atlas Shrugs", as Dagny, John Galt, etc are getting away, NYC goes dark. Prophetic, but that's the future of NYC.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....living on the prison planet at August 13, 2020 12:04 PM (vcOmj)

Where's the spoiler alert, man!

Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 12:06 PM (hku12)

391 NOOD by the way

Posted by: IrishEi at August 13, 2020 12:07 PM (sGotD)

392 Ford to City: "Drop Dead"

maybe his best speech.

Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2020 12:08 PM (X/Pw5)

393 Today's Wall Street Journal had an editorial by an upper West Side resident who described how it's descended into a dystopian mess, with homeless addicts being housed in what were boutique hotels, crime rampant and moving vans carrying people's households out in a steady stream. She laments what happened to her once wonderful neighborhood.

But.... she also tells how the residents were proudly progressive, and supported integrating a support structure for the less fortunate into neighborhoods.

I can't wait to see the responses in the letters to the editor. "Hey, stupid, you voted for this crap!! You brought this on yourself!!!! What are you complaining about? And when you move to some nice suburb in an area that's been Republican for decades, you better change your voting habits!!!!!"
With all the staunch progressives fleeing NYC for what are now greener pastures, I am thinking we do need border control INSIDE the US, with well run Republican states denying residence to Democrat voters. Any Dem fleeing NYC can move to Chicago, Seattle, Portland, Minneapolis, San Fran... the list is large.

Posted by: GeorgeV at August 13, 2020 12:16 PM (U2Tva)

394 Now the city of Minneapolis is requiring the owners of
businesses destroyed in the riots to pay their remaining taxes for 2020
before they will issue them a permit to clean up the remains of their
former businesses.

Posted by: SMOD at August 13, 2020 12:16 PM (X5CsJ)

395 I'll see your cigarette butt in the can, and raise you one can being used as a chewing tobacco spit cup.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (hku12)

Got nicotine poisoning that way. Had a liter Dr. Pepper sitting by my bedside in the barracks. My roommate drank it and refilled it with Welfare Bear Wintergreen spit. I woke up in the middle of the night parched not knowing and downed it. Ugh!

Posted by: PUE 206 at August 13, 2020 12:19 PM (D/SYi)

396 We didn't think we'd get a worse President than Carter. Then Obama came along. We didn't think NYC would have a worse Mayor than Dinkins. Then came DeBlasio.

Posted by: hadsil at August 13, 2020 12:21 PM (tqjLf)

397 Ford to City: "Drop Dead"

maybe his best speech.
Posted by: BignJames at August 13, 2020 12:08 PM (X/Pw5)

Problem is, Ford never said it.
It was a headline writer who wrote it

Posted by: JoeF. at August 13, 2020 12:29 PM (7ixfo)

398 ll see your cigarette butt in the can, and raise you one can being used as a chewing tobacco spit cup.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 13, 2020 11:40 AM (hku12)

Got nicotine poisoning that way. Had a liter Dr. Pepper sitting by my bedside in the barracks. My roommate drank it and refilled it with Welfare Bear Wintergreen spit. I woke up in the middle of the night parched not knowing and downed it. Ugh!
Posted by: PUE 206 at August 13, 2020 12:19 PM (D/SYi)

Jesus, that's gross

Posted by: JoeF. at August 13, 2020 12:30 PM (7ixfo)

399 Jesus, that's gross
Posted by: JoeF. at August 13, 2020 12:30 PM (7ixfo)

Got me a trip to the ER, stomach pumped, then pumped full of charcoal and jaundiced skin for three weeks

Posted by: PUE 206 at August 13, 2020 12:37 PM (D/SYi)

400 People fleeing these toxic, imploding shitholes go right out & elect some NEW DeBlasio wherever it is they escaped to.

Posted by: mnw at August 13, 2020 12:42 PM (Cssks)

401
What is your identified trigger for Civil War?

If Trump wins,
The left has no where else to go. Communists are determined pieces of shit. Trigger:
Antifa takes over major blue cities, not symbolically but literally.
If Biden wins,
Trigger: Right wing death squads form (inevitable in banana republics), the attempt to suppress them goes badly.
The reason most people wear masks is because they believe the propaganda that it is the responsible choice, not because they are sheep.

Posted by: An Observation at August 13, 2020 12:51 PM (iisbs)

402 #401 the reason I wear a mask is that the revolutionary swims in the crowd like a fish in the sea.

You become invisible with a mask.

Bank robbers loved them.

Posted by: torabora at August 13, 2020 01:01 PM (Y274z)

403 105
Secret Service code names:

Biden: Celtic.

Harris: Septic.

Jim

Sunk New Dawn

Galveston, TX

Interesting. So when they dump Biden and add Stacey Abrams, the combined code names will be Septic Tank. Pretty accurate.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at August 13, 2020 01:06 PM (hKi6n)

404 55 - don't forget about me in Yorkville!! I"m saving as much dough as I can for my Escape from New York....

Posted by: vivi at August 13, 2020 02:14 PM (11H2y)

405 This reminds me of the (TV ? Movie?) joke where the character yells at the Bad Guys:

'Stop or I'll shoot !
Wraps his arm around his neck.
Points his gun at his temple.
Drags himself out of the room.

Think I hate this wanker. Like, totally.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at August 13, 2020 03:01 PM (Mce6+)

406 11 Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC
_________________________________________

Please tell me this is a lie. I'll sue. I'll Call Larry Bird.

Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at August 13, 2020 03:06 PM (Mce6+)

407 406 11 Biden's Secret Service code name is CELTIC
_________________________________________
Please tell me this is a lie. I'll sue. I'll Call Larry Bird.
Posted by: lunatic fringe-i know i'm out there. at August 13, 2020 03:06 PM (Mce6+)
===

I think they meant SEPTIC.

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