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aceofspadeshq at gee mail.com CBD: cbd.aoshq at gee mail.com Buck: buck.throckmorton at protonmail.com joe mannix: mannix2024 at proton.me MisHum: petmorons at gee mail.com | Democrats Exult That They've Driven the American Government Out of Insurrectionist StatesI don't know if this agreement included a guarantee that Portland cops would protect the federal courthouse, or if we're just bugging out. Either way, the Democrat Taliban is doing victory laps over having beaten America.
Trump: We're not leaving until they secure their own city. Comments(Jump to bottom of comments)1
Might be a "let it burn" thing. We'll see.
Posted by: MW at July 29, 2020 12:05 PM (gWtVa) 2
I'm of two minds. Let them get what they voted for good and hard. But, this is insurrection against the nation and must be crushed. Oy. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:05 PM (s2VJv) 3
The courthouse will be burned down, and the Oregon Democrats will blame it on "right-wingers."
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 29, 2020 12:06 PM (OeBYn) 4
I half think we're going to need a Federal Courthouse or two razed to the ground to get the attention of the persuadables.
It will, of course, be a mostly peaceful towering inferno . . . Posted by: Alec Leamas at July 29, 2020 12:06 PM (ssz2a) 5
This pisses me off to no end. I mean LIB the entire country pissed off.
Posted by: Can't resist temptation at July 29, 2020 12:06 PM (NWEal) 6
Barr is enabling this
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:06 PM (ONvIw) 7
I got nuthin'
Posted by: Chainsaw Baboon at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM (Do5/p) 8
I think I read yesterday that Portland had agreed to protect the fed courthouse in exchange for the withdrawal of federal agents.
I don't think this will work. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM (sWM8x) 9
This is the weirdest pixy thing I've seen.
The top of the page is throbbing. (No, not that, you perv). The last two letters in @...brown disappear and reappear and the whole top part of the page wobbles. It's OK down here. Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM (gd9RK) 10
"Okay, guys! The feds are gone! Quiet down now!"
"Did you just say guys? We're gonna burn down another building for that." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM (UWqZJ) 11
Pence better ask Trump. He said hes not leaving until the city is secured.
President @realDonaldTrump on Portland: We are not leaving until they secure their city Posted by: Menack at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (buTO7) 12
Why cant they say they are leaving then, on Friday night, declare a riot and swoop in and barricade 40 intersections and arrest everyone on the streets. Surely there enough troops/feds to 9/11-style lock down the extended downtown and arrest everyone?
Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (UYvk0) 13
Terrific. So the Trump admin sends these guys in, then negotiates a surrender that doesn't even require the local goons not to crow about the surrender. This sure as hell ain't winning. And neither is Trump's miserable mask-wearing is patriotic horseshit.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (H5knJ) 14
>>>Cities and states are in a state of violent insurrection, and the neocon nevertrumpers think this can all be put back together with some Free Trade (and Open Borders) Propaganda.
Forever 2003 Bois: Standing athwart fascism, yelling "we're going to lower corporate tax rates!" Posted by: El Kabong at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (datdl) 15
4 No we need a DOJ willing to prosecute the people Barr called the elites who are organizing and paying for this. Sadly we have nobody willing to do this.
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (ONvIw) 16
The Feds incited riots? For weeks? Cause I don't think they were there for "weeks" I say let them burn down the Courthouse.. Then move it
Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2020 12:09 PM (Zmnko) 17
I want to know how hundreds or rioters are getting in/out of the city? Bike lanes, cars, what?!
Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 29, 2020 12:09 PM (UYvk0) 18
Now they're putting nails in commercial grade fireworks.
How is that different from IED's in one of the shit-i-stans? Posted by: Roman Maroni at July 29, 2020 12:09 PM (vCA4F) 19
When Seattle was left to do things, Bimbo Mayor Jenny let the CHAZ get created and that psycho run the joint. What in the fuck is happening in this country. Is China behind this? Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (lg/F7) 20
>>> 8 I think I read yesterday that Portland had agreed to protect the fed courthouse in exchange for the withdrawal of federal agents.
I don't think this will work. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM (sWM8x) ===== Agreed. The restrictions placed on the local police will most definitely preclude them from actually being able to protect the building. Posted by: Painting the Corners at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (jU8C+) Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (Zmnko) 22
When meeting behind closed doors do Democrats ever sound sanish?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (jwprJ) 23
Cities and states are in a state of violent insurrection, and the neocon nevertrumpers think this can all be put back together with some Free Trade (and Open Borders) Propaganda. Jefferson Davis smiles. Posted by: pep at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (v16oJ) 24
That first tweet is a lie. Trump has not agreed to "withdraw" Federal Officers from Portland. Federal officers are still going to be there protecting Federal assets.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2020 12:11 PM (JUOKG) 25
Mornin', Boss....
Posted by: BunkerInTheBurbs at July 29, 2020 12:11 PM (ZI4/t) 26
22 When meeting behind closed doors do Democrats ever sound sanish?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (jwprJ) Not even danish. Maybe bearclaw... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:11 PM (s2VJv) 27
The Forever 2003 Bois are basically just flying on autopilot right now, biding their time until their Neocon Khaleesi Nikki Haley can save America.
Posted by: El Kabong at July 29, 2020 12:11 PM (datdl) 28
Let Portland burn
Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (Zmnko) 29
There's a military axiom that the weapon you use this year will be used against you by your enemies next year.
I've never been completely comfortable with the plainclothes 'grab them off the street' style of enforcement, in spite of enjoying the recent outcomes. Trump's reelection is anything but assured, and I cringe at the idea of social justice enforcers grabbing people off the street for their perceived 'racism'. In that regard I'd be much more comfortable with Uniformed Military taking up positions in Portland and Seattle. You know who they are, and what they're about. They could suppress these riots with live fire for all of me, and I wouldn't break a sweat. But I don't want President Kamala (or whomever) to have the use of this particular tool. Posted by: Tom at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (BLqox) 30
Well, we'll see what happens ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (OWgiM) 31
Our local Oregon State Police officers will be downtown to protect Oregonians' right to free speech and keep the peace.
If she is sending away the supposed reason for the violence -- federal agents -- then why does she need to send police officers to "keep the peace"? "Keep the peace" from what? It's time for bold action to reform police practices. So she's using police to "keep the peace", even though she still sees them as racist and in need of reform? Um... logic? Not seeing any. Oh wait, that's right, the left's new narrative is that prior to the feds stepping in, all the violence was caused by NAZIs and white supremacists. We live in stupid times... Posted by: Chainsaw Baboon at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (Do5/p) 32
This has got to be hurting their election efforts. I have to believe there are still (relatively) sane liberals out there whom, while agreeing in principle with BLM and Antifa, Et Al, now realize what a threat these people are to a peaceful, lawful society. Surely these folks have jobs and businesses and families and see how their party has been hijacked and gone off the rails by siding with these dangerous and unhinged factions. At least I hope so.
Posted by: Agent Cooper at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (Dc5Qe) 33
The last Republican mayor of Portland left office 40 years ago.
But sure, they're going to take "bold action" now. Whatevs, Kate. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:13 PM (unn44) 34
I prefer that "if this building is destroyed, it will not be rebuilt, nor will this district have an appointed Federal Attorney and all discretionary aide to Oregon is shut off" be part of any deal. Pick which state you'd rather go to for federal cases, dunces and summoned moms. Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at July 29, 2020 12:13 PM (pNxlR) 35
Start a backfire in Sausalito.
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 12:13 PM (RuIsu) Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2020 12:14 PM (Zmnko) Posted by: Warai-otoko at July 29, 2020 12:14 PM (iCpfm) 38
34: If they don't want federal courts, this becomes an incentive.
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:14 PM (ONvIw) 39
Close all federal buildings and withdraw all federal employees. This includes postal workers, the FAA and TSA. No Post Offices, airports, train stations or interstate bus depots will be operating throughout the state of Oregon.
Posted by: Stu Podaso at July 29, 2020 12:14 PM (m5BDw) 40
Posted by: Tom at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (BLqox)
------------ "Plain Clothes grabbing off the streets" is a lie. The people doing the grabbing are wearing marked uniforms. They may roll up in unmarked cars, but the occupants are uniformed in some fashion.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing 41
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That first tweet is a lie. Trump has not agreed to "withdraw" Federal Officers from Portland. Federal officers are still going to be there protecting Federal assets. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2020 12:11 PM (JUOKG) So what happens when the State Police get into conflict with Federal Officers? Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at July 29, 2020 12:15 PM (N39Ws) 42
39 and dont pay the salaries
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:15 PM (ONvIw) 43
Off-Topic: The Free Trade Cult won't like it, but moving pharmaceutical production from Communist China to a depressed area of the USA seems like sound policy to me.
https://is.gd/uNRSBg Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at July 29, 2020 12:15 PM (OeBYn) 44
President
@realDonaldTrump on Portland: We are not leaving until they secure their city Posted by: Menack at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (buTO7) ----------------------------- Hmm, who do I believe? Governor Kate Brown or President Trump? Gosh, that's a tough one.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing 45
So Trump blinked?
Posted by: Josephistan at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (YsYjM) 46
Me thinks the Democrats have their dream inept republican candidate=Mike Pence.
I don't want a republican Jimmy Carter. Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (VrNz6) 47
This is like asking the Taliban to guard Al Qaeda.
_________ Not nearly so good an idea. Every once in a while Mahometan fanatics get killing one another. Sometimes for profit, mostly for fun. That won't happen in Portland, alas. Posted by: Eeyore at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (LMs+g) 48
Well, we'll see what happens ...
Posted by: sock_rat_eez Yes. No one knows the future. By the way, I have not seen that guy who used to say *And so it begins...* I miss that guy. Posted by: MikeM at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (xxl1q) 49
43 Maybe they'll import workers the way the Italians did
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (ONvIw) 50
Look how insane they reacted when Trump merely sent in federal law enforcement.
Imagine if he had sent in the military? Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (+dsLj) 51
...I cringe at the idea of social justice enforcers grabbing people off the street for their perceived 'racism'.
Posted by: Tom at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (BLqox) If the Dems win they'll do that no matter what Trump has done. Posted by: Robert at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (vCY06) 52
It's a bold stragegy, Cotton. Let's see if it works.
Posted by: gapoz at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (YEDC9) 53
build a 40 foot stone wall around the city.
blow up the bridges in and out. let them take care of themselves. Posted by: nurse ratched at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (W2Pud) 54
42 39 and dont pay the salaries
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:15 PM (ONvIw) I prefer declaring that any county in open insurrection against the federal government will not be allowed to vote. I recall Lincoln did something similar in the Emancipation proclamation where it got down to the county level in specifics. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (1Y7Z+) 55
Oregon National Guard ready with Daisies affixed.
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (RuIsu) 56
Let it burn. But if it does, do not expect the media to show the courthouses burning. Gotta keep the peaceful protest crap going.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at July 29, 2020 12:18 PM (Oq/TM) 57
Might be a "let it burn" thing. We'll see.
Posted by: MW at July 29, 2020 12:05 PM (gWtVa) I hope you're right. and I hope there's news cameras and federal drone monitoring all over the area so when they burn it down tonight, it'll be the lead on Thursday morning that they did exactly what they said they would after we left. Posted by: SturmToddler at July 29, 2020 12:18 PM (8D42x) 58
Not really off topic, considering this item I'm about to post refers to POLICING...
https://tinyurl.com/y4hctqae The lefts lunacy knows now ends. And with that, I'm off to the gym - Bench Day. Get your chesticles on! Posted by: browndog at July 29, 2020 12:18 PM (BgMrQ) 59
> Move it to Idaho
Kotzebue, Alaska. In fact, they could move the entire Ninth Circus there while they're at it. Of course, you might have to replace an occasional lawyer who got eaten by a polar bear. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:18 PM (unn44) 60
I wouldn't expect the cops to do anything, really. Keep an attack helicopter warmed up and ready nearby.
Posted by: Warren Wimmen at July 29, 2020 12:19 PM (+v+zN) 61
Extremely Heterosexual Mayor Ted Wheeler is on top of everything now and will get to the bottom of things. Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at July 29, 2020 12:19 PM (lg/F7) 62
impose order = play pattycake
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at July 29, 2020 12:19 PM (ch6++) 63
8 I think I read yesterday that Portland had agreed to protect the fed courthouse in exchange for the withdrawal of federal agents.
I don't think this will work. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM (sWM8x) ----- I would consider it, if the City Council, Mayor, Governor, and Lieutenant Governor all signed agreements to be personally financially responsible and pledge all their present and future assets for any and all damage to the Courthouse after the withdrawal of the Federal Security Force. Put up or shut up. Posted by: rd at July 29, 2020 12:19 PM (+0uDE) 64
59 > Move it to Idaho
Kotzebue, Alaska. In fact, they could move the entire Ninth Circus there while they're at it. Of course, you might have to replace an occasional lawyer who got eaten by a polar bear. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:18 PM (unn44) What this guy said. Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (VrNz6) 65
54: I think the Confederate states actually had their own Congress and declared war in 1861. Oregon has not done this
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (ONvIw) 66
But I don't want President Kamala (or whomever) to have the use of this particular tool.
Posted by: Tom at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (BLqox You don't think they can come up with it themselves? Posted by: ... at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (bFcrv) 67
"neocon never-Trumpers" speak for the WH? I thought Pence was involved.
And ace the tone was set in Portland when the ICE office was besieged, with de facto impunity, a few years back. And they won't, but somebody senior in the administration should b-slap this idiot "governor" for her slanderous and delusional statement about "occupation". Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (OTzUX) 68
I'm of two minds. Let them get what they voted for good and hard. But, this is insurrection against the nation and must be crushed.
Oy. Posted by: J.J. Sefton Washington DC didn't tsk tsk when the South tried it. Fuck Oregon. Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (dhqL5) 69
@dhs_Wolf put out a statement directly contradicting this dimwit, stating that no Feds were being pulled out until the Justice Center was secured.
Posted by: motionview at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (bd51w) 70
> That won't happen in Portland, alas.
Oh, but they're already doing it. "Riot Ribs", a communist free food operation, got jacked by a rival communist group. Had their tent taken over and everything. The Twatter thread of them crying about it was hilarious. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (unn44) 71
This is gonna blow up (literally) in the Dem's faces.
Posted by: zeera My tomatoes are doing GREAT at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (zUdXR) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (s2VJv) 73
This sounds like asking Harry Reid to guard the virtue of a pack of Cub Scouts.
I've got a bad feeling about this. Posted by: GnuBreed at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (Z4rgH) 74
Cops are abandoning the DNC convention, Portland and Seattle businesses are on their own....
Sounds like utopia...for those of criminal intent.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing 75
Withdraw Customs completely. Shut down their port, airport, passport services (such as they are now), and immigration services.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (naEeR) 76
The Stupid is coming fast, hard, and frequent. 60 second intervals, just like the song said.
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (RuIsu) 77
It is as The Prophecy foretold. And so...It Begins.
Posted by: Nostradamus at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (+v+zN) 78
Trump needs to tweet storm and keep saying that the Democrats gave America their word that they will handle the law and order in Portland and will protect government property. When the building burns down, he needs to make the inferno part of his regular campaign commercials. Let's see how Biden answers that one.
Posted by: Roy at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (oYAC2) 79
Weakness and cowardice are contagious (as are their opposites, which seem to be missing an action).
Posted by: ShainS at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (mpEPL) 80
Democrats know they are losing on this issue. But they are telling their Antifa Stormtroopers to stand down.The police presence is diversion to enforce their narrative that the violence was all Trumps fault.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (VpIIl) 81
So Trump blinked?
Posted by: Josephistan at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM --- No. That first tweet is a lie. Federal officers will remain in Portland to protect Federal assets. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (JUOKG) 82
" I get the impression that Oregon will supposedly deploy its state police -- those not under Terrorist Ted Wheeler's direction -- to impose order on the "Protests" and maybe guard the courthouse." I don't know about OR, but in LA the State Troopers are a bit better than local PD.
Posted by: hurricane567 at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (hrQMz) 83
Portland, the American Fallujah.
... But seriously, I just finished Bing West's text on the two battles of Fallujah. The analogy with Portland is striking. A medium-sized city, favored in the old regime, dissatisfied with its place in the new one. It's run by fanatical clerics and their minority of thugs while most citizens are mildly supportive, but mostly terrified to be the next target. Posted by: Keith Eppich at July 29, 2020 12:22 PM (DTjL9) 84
Why don't Republicans tell it's voters...If you only watch MSM than on you must have a child's brain level of function.
A really boring child. Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 29, 2020 12:22 PM (pB6Gt) 85
This is easy enough to beat. Move the federal functions to the bluest neighborhoods in said states. Watch the peaceful terror engulf the peple who voted for it.
Win. Win. Posted by: Innagaddadavida at July 29, 2020 12:22 PM (ONKVN) 86
At this point I'm happy to cut loose any state that borders on the Pacific
Posted by: Josephistan at July 29, 2020 12:22 PM (YsYjM) 87
"neocon never-Trumpers" speak for the WH? I thought Pence was involved.
And ace the tone was set in Portland when the ICE office was besieged, with de facto impunity, a few years back. And they won't, but somebody senior in the administration should b-slap this idiot "governor" for her slanderous and delusional statement about "occupation". Posted by: rhomboid Cease any AND ALL federal dollars to ANY state in insurrection. De legitimize Oregon's federal representatives and senators while they are in a state of insurrection. Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2020 12:22 PM (dhqL5) 88
"Let's center the Black Lives Matter movement's demands for racial justice and police accountability." Let's center? What the hell does that mean. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (aKsyK) 89
The only hope Oregon has is that the non-Portland areas are generally blue-collar, red meat kinds of folks. The loons are more or less isolated. It's kinda like Colorado that way. Unless you're in Boulder or Denver, sanity reigns. Of course, the epicenters of moral rot are the most populous, so they end up moving the states into the dumbest directions...
Posted by: red speck at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (gS3OW) 90
You don't think they can come up with it themselves?
Posted by: ... at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (bFcrv) No kidding, the insane EO's alone that would be coming at us makes my head spin. That and having a SCOTUS anoint all of it should it go to the courts. Posted by: clutch cargo at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (8B6Ng) 91
Aren't the Democrat states openly embracing being in insurrection now? If so, why are they being allowed to participate in a national election?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (oVJmc) 92
DHS Sec. Chad Wolf says "Feds go nowhere until the state police secure the courthouse"
https://tinyurl.com/y554fwul Posted by: kbdabear at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (qAR6u) 93
45 So Trump blinked?
Posted by: Josephistan at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (YsYjM) What do *you* think? Posted by: ... at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (bFcrv) 94
75 Withdraw Customs completely. Shut down their port, airport, passport services (such as they are now), and immigration services.
Posted by: Rob Crawford at July 29, 2020 12:20 PM (naEeR) What would the process be for Oregon to regress to territory status? Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (VrNz6) 95
The Ft. Sumter comparison is apt.
Posted by: logprof, happily unembarreled at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (oZuI0) 96
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"Let's center the Black Lives Matter movement's demands for racial justice and police accountability." Let's center? What the hell does that mean. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (aKsyK) Center it on Vieques. And then call in the FA-18 squadrons... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (s2VJv) 97
I love how the left views this as success, when, in actuality, it signals the failure of the local government to protect the citizens, properties, and ideals entrusted to its care.
Given that the governor is cut from similar cloth, I worry that we will have more of same. I suppose it will depend on how badly the state police are hamstrung in their control measures. Posted by: cryptogeek at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (YZBsE) 98
As much as I'd like to see Trump bust heads here I think this is the right call.
The stupid leftists and Democrats (including Pelosi and Schumer) are pushing the "Trumps Stormtrooper" narrative which is a blatant and dangerous lie as part of the "Trumps a fascist" lie. Pulling the marshals out - A> Gets them out of harms way, B> prevents the marxists from trying to incite a false flag C> Shows that Trump isn't a dictator. What happens next? if Oregon fails to defend the courthouse the press will HAVE TO REPORT IT - because that shows "love wins". Otherwise its not a victory for them because the dems can't gloat. This confirms that the marxists ARE being violent and the revolution will have to be televised. Secondly Trump has perfect optics to move the feds back in to other cities because of what Portland did. On the other hand - the fed buildings stand. Trump still wins and the rioters continue to consume their own for George Floyd and the Dems take all the blame. "Love wins" Short term it's a win, long term? We still need to bust heads - but we won't win this with a short battle - we've got to take back the schools, destroy cancel culture, restore freedom of speech in this country and the rule of law and the GOP seriously needs to either grow a pair or get out of the way for new blood or we need a new political party that will stand up for the constitution and the Republic. God Bless America. Posted by: Skywise at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (icBdN) 99
69 @dhs_Wolf put out a statement directly contradicting this dimwit, stating that no Feds were being pulled out until the Justice Center was secured.
--- There was also mention yesterday of federal agents remaining inside the courthouse and in exchange Portland agreeing to control the mob outside. Maybe that's what's happening. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (sWM8x) 100
The Democrats haven't been this happy since they got the federal government to surrender Fort Sumpter.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (aO8Gd) 101
Peace in the valley at last. Good time to open another Starbucks and flower market downtown. What could go wrong....
Posted by: Colin at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (prSfl) 102
Ah, so the idiot lied.
The analogy with embassies and host countries is pretty good. Local law enforcement's job is to secure order in their area, including of course around federal properties. If they don't do that, they're in violation of the normal arrangement - which really hasn't ever been an issue that I'm aware of, after you-know-when at least. And US Marshals' main job is to secure the federal judicial process and institution, so of course they are doing so. Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 12:25 PM (OTzUX) 103
Yeah, federal officers are not leaving Portland. They are there under existing agreements. Maybe downsized if Portland PD or ST keep the mob down.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:25 PM (VpIIl) 104
I suspect Governor Kate's claims are overblown. I would bet that it's the reinforcements that are being withdrawn, but the normal Federal contingent will remain.
Now we'll see if she can get her stormtroopers to stand down. It'll be interesting to see how much control she has over them. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 29, 2020 12:25 PM (Kpl3J) 105
Sell Oregon to Hong Kong. They could use the closet space.
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 12:25 PM (RuIsu) 106
I don't believe anything the news says.
*reads the news* OMG DID YOU SEE TRUMP IS CONCEDING DEFEAT AND PULLING OUT!?!??!?! Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:26 PM (+dsLj) 107
Think we'll get more "naked Athenas" and righteously angry AWFL moms?
Seriously, keep this freakshow up. Burn your cities down. Who are you hurting? Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:26 PM (bDqIh) 108
This is just a ploy to retroactively blame the feds for the violence.
They call off the riots and say that they were caused by Trump. But I don't get it - are the local police now the good guys? I thought their gripe was against local police. I thought the social workers were the good guys. Maybe they will send case workers in to the streets with forms and debit cards to stop the rioters. Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (LWu6U) 109
91 because there is no formal insurrection and the actions ate flying under the flag of equality for minorities. And because the leadership/moneymen of antifa remain free to continue.
Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (ONvIw) 110
Oregon Governor looks like a junior college art teacher.
Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (hku12) 111
The second this twat bitch whore called the Feds an occupying force, Pence should have reversed course and kept the Feds there.
I'm tired of these fucking assholes and their willful disregard of the law. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (VWp7G) 112
106 I don't believe anything the news says.
*reads the news* OMG DID YOU SEE TRUMP IS CONCEDING DEFEAT AND PULLING OUT!?!??!?! Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:26 PM (+dsLj) Rush talking about a Gallup poll that alleges a massive percentage of people support the "protests." Total bullshit. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (s2VJv) 113
> I suspect Governor Kate's claims are overblown.
Trump has already called her a liar on Twatter. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (unn44) Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (s2VJv) 115
She's lying. They won't be leaving until they know the courthouse is safe and secure.
Posted by: J Hogan at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (ofjQa) 116
Let's center? What the hell does that mean.
Matt Taibbi's extended negative review of "White Fragility" noted that she liked to make ugly nonsense verbs out of nouns and vice-versa. It seems to be a leftist thing. Might be the real reason Rutgers is "deemphasizing English grammar". Posted by: Ian S. at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (ZGrMX) 117
Best case scenario: the courthouse is destroyed. But then, it will be destruction of government property, therefore rightwing terrorism.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (dNzKv) 118
Getting this in the name field.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (hNEmI) 119
>>After my discussions with VP Pence and others, the federal government has agreed to withdraw federal officers from Portland. They have acted as an occupying force & brought violence. Starting tomorrow, all Customs and Border Protection & ICE officers will leave downtown Portland.
Does this mean the federal courthouse will be burned to the ground? And ICE facilities, they will be targeted, too. Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (bDqIh) Posted by: notsothoreau at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (JKNZq) 121
Left - center only means Soy Tacos will be served on Wednesdays to Everyone. <------
Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (pB6Gt) 122
Yeah, the Feds ain't leaving. He lied. https://twitter.com/DHS_Wolf/status/1288497192962056193/photo/1
Posted by: Joseph Dickerson at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (KTq2u) Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (hNEmI) 124
I'm disappointed. Sure looks like Trump caved. Of course the second front is the media, and the media will never tell the truth. Already they are spinning this as a Kate Brown victory.
I hope I'm wrong. Posted by: PJ at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (qlTN9) Posted by: Robert at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (CF3YU) 126
Rush talking about a Gallup poll that alleges a massive percentage of people support the "protests."
Everyone supports protests. Only Democrats support rioting. That's the parsing happening there. Posted by: Ian S. at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (ZGrMX) 127
100 The Democrats haven't been this happy since they got the federal government to surrender Fort Sumpter.
Posted by: RoyalOil at July 29, 2020 12:24 PM (aO8Gd) Well, there was that helicopter thing in Saigon in the 70's that gave them a big chubby. Posted by: Roy at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (oYAC2) 128
Even though I expect this jaw-dropping behavior to get a pretty strong rebuke in November, nationally, the very fact it can get to this point shows the depths of degradation in much of the country.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (OTzUX) 129
I'm guessing:
the federal government has agreed to withdraw SOME federal officers from Portland. THOSE FEDERAL OFFICERS ARE, SPECIFICALLY: all Customs and Border Protection ICE officers Posted by: m at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (1bHTz) 130
Newly appointed Chicago PD Deputy chief commits suicide
https://tinyurl.com/y3fb5kj7 Posted by: notsothoreau at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (JKNZq) - A black life? Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (hNEmI) 131
41
So what happens when the State Police get into conflict with Federal Officers? there was a brief bit in one of the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy novels that involved rival police gangs setting traps for each other. Posted by: Anachronda at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (sGtp+) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (unn44) 133
If Dunning and Kruger say it, it must be true.
Posted by: ... at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (bFcrv) 134
Rush talking about a Gallup poll that alleges a massive percentage of people support the "protests."
*************** This is how you do it: Question: Do you support peaceful demonstrations in support of racial equality? Who says no to that? Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (+dsLj) 135
Reading the statements of Brown and Wolf, I think Brown's exultation is well earned. She has driven the Feds out of Portland. Wolf's response is we aren't leaving yet - but we are leaving.
What was the point? Feds should burn the damn thing themselves on the way out the door. I am not feeling full of win today. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (ZfRYq) 136
Yeah, let's take this lying Karen's statement as fact...
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (VpIIl) 137
As another moron suggested, EO freeing citizens, law enforcement, and feds to shoot white supremacists on sight if they are seen rioting after dark.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (hNEmI) 138
89 The only hope Oregon has is that the non-Portland areas are generally blue-collar, red meat kinds of folks. The loons are more or less isolated. It's kinda like Colorado that way. Unless you're in Boulder or Denver, sanity reigns. Of course, the epicenters of moral rot are the most populous, so they end up moving the states into the dumbest directions...
Posted by: red speck at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (gS3OW) The problem is that Portland can outvote the rest of the state. So there is no hope. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (Kpl3J) 139
Yeah, federal officers are not leaving Portland. They are there under existing agreements. Maybe downsized if Portland PD or ST keep the mob down.
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:25 PM (VpIIl) Seems to me the possibility of actual bloodshed among the rioters go up, when there are fewer feds surrounding the areas. If the feds only occupy the federal property, then when the breaches occur, real bullets will be used. That might be the strategy here. Kate wants dead bodies, and riot control doesn't give her that. Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (hku12) 140
Everyone supports protests. Only Democrats support rioting. That's the parsing happening there.
Posted by: Ian S. You are right about the parsing. But about the protests. Really? This is still about Floyd? And as others have said, what is it they want? Defund police? It is just anarchy now. No message. Posted by: MikeM at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (xxl1q) 141
> Sell Oregon to Hong Kong. They could use the closet space.
Step 1: let one of the communist states secede ("Let"? Hell, boot them out!) Step 2: deport all the other communists to that former state. Step 3: profit. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (unn44) 142
Oregon is being given the rope to hang itself with. If the State Police can't or won't guard Federal facilities, the Administration will have every justification to call the Portland riots an insurrection.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (J+mig) 143
This is how you do it:
Question: Do you support peaceful demonstrations in support of racial equality? Who says no to that? Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (+dsLj) Why even bother to do that? Just make shit up. Posted by: BignJames at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (X/Pw5) Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (yvnmY) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (oVJmc) 146
142 Oregon is being given the rope to hang itself with. If the State Police can't or won't guard Federal facilities, the Administration will have every justification to call the Portland riots an insurrection.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (J+mig) Did something change over the past 2 months? They haven't had enough rope so far? Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (ZfRYq) 147
24 hr. rule. I sense b.s. here.
Posted by: Bosk at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (SWbVS) 148
Phase I: State police let rioters burn down the building.
Phase II: Implement ace's plan from last week. http://ace.mu.nu/archives/389272.php It's time to abandon the federal courthouse, send Portland a bill for a constructive taking (a constructive taking occurs when a government deprives you of all use of a property but won't admit it, because admitting it would require them to pay the people they stole the land from), and announce that the district courthouse will be relocated, permanently, to either the extreme eastern border of Oregon or, better yet, to Idaho, and that these cocksuckers can enjoy travelling seven fucking hours every time they have dealings with a federal court. Posted by: lymond at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (Jvjtu) 149
This is the weirdest pixy thing I've seen.
The top of the page is throbbing. (No, not that, you perv). The last two letters in @...brown disappear and reappear and the whole top part of the page wobbles. It's OK down here. Posted by: Bandersnatch at July 29, 2020 12:07 PM This seems to happen when the post has tweets in it. Posted by: Chuck C at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (d/5jB) 150
Even though I expect this jaw-dropping behavior to get a pretty strong rebuke in November, nationally, the very fact it can get to this point shows the depths of degradation in much of the country.
***************** Let me tell you how bad it is: This whole circus has given Martha McSally a chance to win. Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (+dsLj) 151
I call bullshit. No federal agency is going to quit their jobs until ordered by PDT.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (JFO2v) 152
"I'm disappointed. Sure looks like Trump caved. Of course the second front is the media, and the media will never tell the truth. Already they are spinning this as a Kate Brown victory.
I hope I'm wrong. Posted by: PJ at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (qlTN9" Kill yourself while there is still time. Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (ShJ3E) 153
You have to parse what she wrote.
"Two very specific agencies that have little to do with hurting rioters are leaving the state for now. The Department of Homeland Security, the guys with the guns and black-sites and the ability to call someone an enemy combatant, will be staying." She is trying to turn nothing into a win. Posted by: mrshad at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (IJsa1) 154
The Marxist Socialist Bastards (MSB) mob just canceled America. The events in Portland are not riots; they are an asymmetrical guerrilla war and America just lost the first battle of what is effectively a civil war.
My experience with Portland is the population at best is some what to the left of Bernie Sander's politics and more typically is a ongoing Maoist struggle session. More to the point, there is growing identity, centered in Seattle and Portland, that they are no longer American and would be better off out of the country. Capitulating to them is only going to reinforce notion. Voting isn't going to fix this. God help us if the MSB mob gets complete control of the Federal government in November. Posted by: Anti Marx - Pro Lennon at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (Fmrwt) 155
The only hope Oregon has is that the non-Portland areas are generally blue-collar, red meat kinds of folks. The loons are more or less isolated. It's kinda like Colorado that way. Unless you're in Boulder or Denver, sanity reigns. Of course, the epicenters of moral rot are the most populous, so they end up moving the states into the dumbest directions...
Posted by: red speck at July 29, 2020 12:23 PM (gS3OW) The problem is that Portland can outvote the rest of the state. So there is no hope. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 29, 2020 12:31 PM (Kpl3J) Right, it'll be interesting to see what happens here in Colorado. Cori Gardner is as squishy as a Gope can get, but he's up against Hickenpooper in November. If Gardner holds his seat, it'll be due to outside Denver/Boulder saying F you to the Democrats. We'll see. Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (hku12) 156
147 24 hr. rule. I sense b.s. here.
Posted by: Bosk at July 29, 2020 12:32 PM (SWbVS) Wolf's tweet validates Brown's. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq) 157
124 I'm disappointed. Sure looks like Trump caved. Of course the second front is the media, and the media will never tell the truth. Already they are spinning this as a Kate Brown victory.
I hope I'm wrong. Posted by: PJ at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (qlTN9) I can't tell you how many posts I've seen lately that fit this template exactly. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (oVJmc) 158
Why even bother to do that? Just make shit up.
********* Well ya gotta have SOME pretense of being somewhat credible. Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (+dsLj) 159
I call bullshit. No federal agency is going to quit their jobs until ordered by PDT.
Posted by: rhennigantx at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (JFO2v) - hahaha Dumb bastards didn't even get their book deals lined up first. Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (hNEmI) 160
Huh. So the US government just surrendered Portland? So to what is that a prelude? Are they in insurrection and the army will be ordered to impose martial law (whether or not they do it), or did we surrender Portland and, perhaps, Oregon?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (hYcqw) 161
LOL, looks like the media is running with this narrative. Seeing tons of news articles about the deal to remove federal officers. This is gonna get funny.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (j12sz) 162
>>Question: Do you support peaceful demonstrations in support of racial equality?
Who says no to that? Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (+dsLj) Ahem. Peaceful demonstrations are pointless and laughable. If you want to mold the world, make money and spend it purchasing politicians. Mewling masses of people using up public real estate is eye pollution. Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (yvnmY) 163
Close every single federal office in Portland. Every one. You need the SS office? Drive to medford.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (dNzKv) 164
Why did that equivocating, slick-talking Sundar Pichai get invited to testify? Nothing useful will come out of his mouth. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (G51Gf) 165
107, Me, portions of my business rely on tourism in Portland. I will probably lose around 85k in sales from this temper tantrum. On top of all the covid bullshit...
Posted by: KarlHungus at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (69u8m) 166
What in the fuck is happening in this country.
Is China behind this? Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at July 29, 2020 12:10 PM (lg/F7) Almost definitely, but their chickens are about to come home to roost. They've lost a good portion of this year's crop and are facing a major famine due to floods caused by "Biblical" rains... ...which may or may not cause a failure of the Three Gorges Dam, which would wipe out 1/9 of China's electrical power, scour several industrial areas, and directly affect hundreds of millions of people. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (J+mig) 167
I wouldn't trust anyone named Gary.
Posted by: Gary Busey at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (MpSu+) 168
130 Newly appointed Chicago PD Deputy chief commits suicide
https://tinyurl.com/y3fb5kj7 Posted by: notsothoreau at July 29, 2020 12:28 PM (JKNZq) A black life? Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:29 PM (hNEmI) Yes, he was black. Also, from the article: He was with the department for nearly 30 years. Posted by: m at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (1bHTz) 169
I'm of two minds. Let them get what they voted for good and hard. But, this is insurrection against the nation and must be crushed.
Oy. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:05 PM (s2VJv) let them get it good and hard make sure the country sees it loud and clear crush them mercilessly Posted by: SturmToddler at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (8D42x) 170
Lol. "Federal Officers" are in almost every major city in various capacities. They aren't going anywhere. Plus The statement from DHS sounds surprisingly different. Since when does this place run with a left wing tweet?
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (ShJ3E) 171
Gov Kate Brown is kinda sorta...and I know this is shocking ...lying
https://twitter.com/DHS_Wolf/status/ 1288510427807326209 @DHS_Wolf As I told the Governor yesterday, federal law enforcement will remain in Portland until the violent activity toward our federal facilities ends. We are not removing any law enforcement while our facilities and law enforcement remain under attack. Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (TOyHQ) 172
Hope Oregon drops into the ocean like Californication will one day.
All I know is Durham, NC still has not burned. #1 reason- black residents have money, nice expensive cars and nice two story houses on tree lined streets. #1 problem in Durham, NC- breaking and entering and theft. Once those scumbags are caught on CCTV like I think we all should have in our neighborhoods that shit will end quickly. Can get rid of the CCTV's when the problem has been quashed. Just don't let the natives know. Posted by: Ms. Apple at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (+fjIe) 173
I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Posted by: nip at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (yoqcZ) 174
Let's center? What the hell does that mean.
-------- They're reaching out. It's the preface for a conversation. An element of dialoging. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (9Fwwf) 175
Wolf's tweet validates Brown's.
Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (ZfRYq) No they don't. Just read em. Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (j12sz) 176
Close every single federal office in Portland. Every one. You need the SS office? Drive to medford.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (dNzKv) - Cat Ass Trophy Western United States Consulate 2020! Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (hNEmI) 177
They promised they'd eat me last.
Posted by: Governor Kate Brown at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (EgshT) 178
Me, portions of my business rely on tourism in Portland. I will probably lose around 85k in sales from this temper tantrum. On top of all the covid bullshit...
***** I lost 20% of my income because a blue state with .0000000000000000000000001% new cases wants to compete with Cuntmer on who can be the biggest asshoe. Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (+dsLj) 179
So Portland, OR will be occupied by OR state police, not the local constabulary. And I suspect that a sufficient federal LEO presence will be in place to secure federal property. The governor's decision will place the burden on ALL Oregonians to pay for Portland's security requirements. Should play well in the suburbs
Posted by: mrp at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (Pqytn) 180
I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Posted by: nip at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (yoqcZ) You will be missed. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (dNzKv) 181
169 Posted by: SturmToddler at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (8D42x)
Having cake and eating it too. Ok! Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (s2VJv) 182
Well ya gotta have SOME pretense of being somewhat credible.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:34 PM (+dsLj) Who does? Posted by: CNN, CBS, NBC, etc at July 29, 2020 12:37 PM (bFcrv) 183
@DHS_Wolf
As I told the Governor yesterday, federal law enforcement will remain in Portland until the violent activity toward our federal facilities ends. We are not removing any law enforcement while our facilities and law enforcement remain under attack. Posted by: vmom 2020 at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (TOyHQ) +++++++++ So a partial draw-down or pullout of federal cops, but not the militarized ones who are doing the boots-on-the-ground work? Is that what this amounts to? Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:37 PM (hYcqw) 184
Maybe CBP is leaving, but I think the federal marshals are there to stay.
Posted by: huerfano at July 29, 2020 12:37 PM (9dnxb) 185
I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Posted by: nip ------- This is about me, isn't it? Posted by: Thom Tillis at July 29, 2020 12:37 PM (CJihP) 186
Ahem. Peaceful demonstrations are pointless and laughable. If you want to mold the world, make money and spend it purchasing politicians. Mewling masses of people using up public real estate is eye pollution. Posted by: Zod ======= Well, everything except the last sentence. The crowds help with the propaganda and I believe they actually do craze a few attendants into falling for it. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:37 PM (G51Gf) 187
> Feds should burn the damn thing themselves on the way out the door.
I used to know a Navy vet who was at Subic Bay when it got handed over. According to him, every facility was stripped. Windows broken. Doors kicked in. Things of value that weren't worth moving were destroyed in place (for example, every refrigerator and AC unit got stabbed to let the freon out). Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:37 PM (unn44) 188
Well I hope it's true, and have sort of expected for a while, that the macro trend of the election would pull sorry cases like McSally over the line. If that happens it also means House is "taken back" (dumb term).
And then another weak defensive position is established - which is the maximum feasible objective at the moment. Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 12:38 PM (OTzUX) 189
What was the point?
Feds should burn the damn thing themselves on the way out the door. I am not feeling full of win today. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (ZfRYq) I don't see any problems with Wolfe's statement. There's a Federal Courthouse in my town; normal order is for Judges to work there, for the FBI to have an office in the building with a few agents, along with a handful of Marshall's and associated security. Not that many people for the Feds, overall. What Wolfe was saying was that when the situation gets back to normal, we will go back to normal. Posted by: Tom Servo at July 29, 2020 12:38 PM (Kpl3J) 190
I think the federal marshals are there to stay
Marshals would always be there because of the courthouse (absent a total abandonment). Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 29, 2020 12:38 PM (H5knJ) 191
"51 ...I cringe at the idea of social justice enforcers grabbing people off the street for their perceived 'racism'.
Posted by: Tom at July 29, 2020 12:12 PM (BLqox) If the Dems win they'll do that no matter what Trump has done. Posted by: Robert at July 29, 2020 12:17 PM (vCY06) " This. Personally, I like the idea of using their ROE against them ... it's only fair ! Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at July 29, 2020 12:38 PM (OWgiM) 192
" I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Posted by: nip at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (yoqcZ) " Pair up with the other guys and kill yourselves together. How about Jonestown style? And we want a video showing the frothy part. Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at July 29, 2020 12:38 PM (ShJ3E) 193
According to acting DHS Secretary Wolfe they are not leaving
Posted by: It's me donna at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (Zmnko) 194
Portland is America. It's not theirs. It's Ours.
Mass arrests of insurrectionists and ship them and the rioters to Gitmo. Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (luzVb) 195
Ian Miles Cheong says the Governor is lying about Fed pullout...
https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/ 1288508475547381760 Posted by: andycanuck at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (an7Mv) 196
> You need the SS office? Drive to medford.
Medford? Drive to Kotzebue. Except you can't drive there, 'cause it's not on the road system. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (unn44) 197
Question: Do you support peaceful demonstrations in support of racial equality?
--------------- Who says no to that? Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (+dsLj) That's where we are. The left is insisted a purity test be administered to everyone: Do you not support police indiscriminately killing black folk? Check. Do you not support the right to protest and seek redress from the government? Check. I guess the next question is: Do you not support air for all? Gee thanks, 2020, we're stepping backwards into basic human rights as a place to make a stand. How brave we are. Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (hku12) 198
Kill yourself while there is still time.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at July 29, 2020 12:33 PM (ShJ3E) Easy there.... Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (dLLD6) 199
The people arrested yesterday in NY were let go.
See you tonight! Posted by: wth at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (v0R5T) Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (hNEmI) 201
First reports and all...
@StarChamberMaid 6m The governor reached out to DHS and said the state and local police will protect the federal property. The feds aren't leaving until they see the local police are doing their job protecting the court. Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (ysmsf) 202
No they don't. Just read em.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (j12sz) I did. The only disagreement is on the timing. Brown says starting tomorrow they are leaving - Wolf's wording makes it seem that no one is leaving tomorrow - but it does not say that explicitly. If one or two leave tomorrow then Brown is correct. If Wolf wants to make it clear what the actual agreement is, he can do so. He hasn't with this memo. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (ZfRYq) 203
Look how well the protests are doing at changing fellow Lefties' minds!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlzMetrXfA Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (bDqIh) Posted by: nip at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (yoqcZ) 205
Looks, like oregon police are now going to expand around the courthouse to protect it. I wouldn't be pulling the feds until after the state police protections are gone and the riot doesn't come back. Governor is a liar, but maybe it'll help her with her base.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (j12sz) 206
Question: Do you support peaceful demonstrations in support of racial equality?
--------------- Who says no to that? Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:30 PM (+dsLj) - Go do an internet search for It's okay to be white Brace yourself for what you find. Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (hNEmI) 207
I lost 20% of my income because a blue state
with .0000000000000000000000001% new cases wants to compete with Cuntmer on who can be the biggest asshoe. Posted by: Two Weeks From Intensifying My Peaceful Love for Zooey Deschanel at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM --- Our VFW will lose 4.5 months of income because we are a red State with a 0.000141% death rate from the Wuflu. We have a higher death rate in Texas in a normal flu season. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (JUOKG) 208
I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government?
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl) 209
I did. The only disagreement is on the timing.
Brown says starting tomorrow they are leaving - Wolf's wording makes it seem that no one is leaving tomorrow - but it does not say that explicitly. If one or two leave tomorrow then Brown is correct. If Wolf wants to make it clear what the actual agreement is, he can do so. He hasn't with this memo. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (ZfRYq) Glad you agree that oregon governor is lying. Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:41 PM (j12sz) Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:41 PM (hNEmI) 211
> is the...fault of the federal government?
Same way that "Trump" is responsible for the Minneapolis PD that's been run by Democrats for 59 years. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (unn44) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (oVJmc) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (1vynn) 214
I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government?
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl) - It's because net neutrality, medicare for all, and a Living Wage. Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (hNEmI) 215
If Wolf wants to make it clear what the actual agreement is, he can do so. He hasn't with this memo. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (ZfRYq) I don't need him to make anything clear. Let the lying assholes continue to lie and flail. Action is all I care about. Posted by: CNN, CBS, NBC, etc at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (bFcrv) 216
I knew a guy in the Army who was in France kicked us out in 62? We poured concrete down the toilets.
Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (ZfRYq) 217
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I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government? Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl) You do not understand because you are racist. Oprah is hosting a show on how to be anti-racist. You will watch the show. We're all in this together. Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (yvnmY) Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (1vynn) 219
The Fed courthouse is going to burn.
Posted by: WOPR - Clown World Timeline Thinks This Timeline is Insane at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (J70i0) 220
I'd like a 5 minute break.
Posted by: Archer at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (gmo/4) 221
I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government?
Posted by: Marcus T at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (VpIIl) +++++++++++++ By having the temerity to respond, the federal cops disrupted the festivities, and engendered the violence against them by poking their noses where they had no cause to go. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (hYcqw) 222
First reports and all...
@StarChamberMaid 6m The governor reached out to DHS and said the state and local police will protect the federal property. The feds aren't leaving until they see the local police are doing their job protecting the court. Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM --- The US Marshals aren't going anywhere. If there is a Federal Judge there, the Marshals will be there. It's what they do. From the way I understand it, DHS will withdraw the quick response teams if the riots calm down and the State Police keep them away from the Federal building. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (JUOKG) 223
Mass arrests of insurrectionists and ship them and the rioters to Gitmo.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 29, 2020 12:39 PM (luzVb) If by Gitmo, you mean Shanghai. Mr. Xi bought and paid for them. Let's throw in free delivery, on the house. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (J+mig) 224
No more federal funds to Portland, then?
Bold move, but I approve. Go for it, Portland! Keep sh*t weird! Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (hNEmI) 225
Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe came to me in a dream last night. I awoke a happy, happy woman.
Posted by: Governor Kate Brown at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (EgshT) 226
If Portland demands Maryland as a hostage in return for three sane Oregonians, Zod says make the trade.
Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (yvnmY) 227
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The second this twat bitch whore called the Feds an occupying force, Pence should have reversed course and kept the Feds there. I'm tired of these fucking assholes and their willful disregard of the law. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (VWp7G) Says the bitch who violates first and second amendment protections in her state. There's a show called "Designated Survivor". At one point, the new president who was formerly HUD secretary gets the Governor of Michigan to fly to DC and arrests him for treason. Posted by: jim at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (ynpvh) 228
Pence better ask Trump. He said hes not leaving until the city is secured.
President @realDonaldTrump on Portland: We are not leaving until they secure their city Posted by: Menack at July 29, 2020 12:08 PM (buTO7) I'm sure I'm behind the power curve as usual around here, but I heard just last night that the Feds were sending another 100 cops to Portland to hold off the commies. So what is the straight scoop here? Are the Feds pulling out or staying? Posted by: The Oort Cloud - Source of all SMODs at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (p0pYQ) 229
I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Posted by: nip Most blogs have Writers with writer's block. Here we have the opposite. Also this A Smart Military Blog. Go away little manbug. Posted by: humphreyrobot at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (pB6Gt) 230
I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a
presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government? Same way a child throws a tantrum when you don't buy them a toy at the supermarket. It's your fault for not giving in. Posted by: Blanco Basura - moronhorde.com lives again at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (SchxB) 231
I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a
presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government? Posted by: Marcus T -------- I'm assured by a Lib acquaintance that it is part of Trump's plan to become Emperor. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (1vynn) 232
That's the bottom line for me, btw.
Don't want the federal presence, refuse to accept federal dollars in any form. The end. Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (hNEmI) 233
>>I'm a little confused how riots that were going on for weeks, and a presence that was only beefed up once the goons tried to burn down a federal courthouse is the...fault of the federal government?
Facts are not important, OK? The important points are: #orangemanbad. . . occupying troops. . . stormtroopers beating moms and kidnapping people using unmarked cars. . and whatnot Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (bDqIh) Posted by: m at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (1bHTz) 235
My favorite new Internet freakout is that standard A=440 Hz tuning for musical instruments came from the Nazis, but A=432 is from Gaia and it's a perfect number that's a sum of primes and Aquarius is in the fifth house. (Cue epic Joe Osborn bassline).
Posted by: Ian S. at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (ZGrMX) 236
Almost definitely, but their chickens are about to come home to roost. They've lost a good portion of this year's crop and are facing a major famine due to floods caused by "Biblical" rains...
--- Chengdu area is forecast to get 36" of rain over the next 72 hours. I think it's supposed to take about four days for all the water from this "third flood" to get to Three Gorges. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (sWM8x) 237
You get a lecture! And you get a lecture. And you get a lecture! And you.......
Posted by: Oprahpottamus at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (WfkVv) 238
Other than that Boise supposedly has the same problems as Portland (though possibly smaller)... I'd go with some small town on the eastern border of Oregon.
But does this woman think that if the feds leave that people will stop rioting? Why would they? Posted by: Synova at July 29, 2020 12:45 PM (BD/yx) 239
I want to know how hundreds or rioters are getting in/out of the city? Bike lanes, cars, what?!
Posted by: Tonic Dog at July 29, 2020 12:09 PM (UYvk0) ........ SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME Posted by: wth at July 29, 2020 12:45 PM (v0R5T) 240
See. I said quit reading. I never said I was leaving or killing myself.
Intellect. Posted by: nip at July 29, 2020 12:40 PM (yoqcZ) Congratulations on being clever. Here's your trophy. https://tinyurl.com/y65jxbkj Posted by: Robert at July 29, 2020 12:45 PM (CF3YU) 241
Kate Brown crows, while Pence bides his time. For all she says, I'm betting it's Katie that barred the door (on the protestors).
Posted by: One-Eyed Cat Peepin' in the Seafood Store at July 29, 2020 12:45 PM (/sTHK) 242
I love how the governor has now made her tweets worthless. I won't ever listen to her again.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:46 PM (j12sz) 243
> BIL was stationed there. Looked...cold.
It's not the coldest place in the 907, but it sure ain't Waikiki. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:46 PM (unn44) 244
But does this woman think that if the feds leave that people will stop rioting?
Why would they? Posted by: Synova at July 29, 2020 12:45 PM (BD/yx) ++++++++++++++ It isn't about stopping the rioting. It's about stopping any rioters from being subject to consequences. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:46 PM (hYcqw) 245
Speaking of Joe Osborn, has anyone suggested that Joel Osteen go up to Portland to "talk it out" with the malcontents? Because that's what Portland really needs right now--a mullet and a big, toothy smile.
Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:46 PM (yvnmY) 246
Yes. No one knows the future. By the way, I have not seen that guy who used to say *And so it begins...* I miss that guy.
Posted by: MikeM at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (xxl1q) ----- Things have gotten too real to mock that way... Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at July 29, 2020 12:46 PM (UAMe5) 247
>>>I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Eventually we'll be as enlightened and totes conservative as you. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 29, 2020 12:47 PM (VWp7G) 248
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That first tweet is a lie. Trump has not agreed to "withdraw" Federal Officers from Portland. Federal officers are still going to be there protecting Federal assets. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at July 29, 2020 12:11 PM (JUOKG) Dems LIE? Why I've never heard that accusation on the MSM. Are you sure? /sarc Posted by: jim at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (ynpvh) Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (luzVb) 250
You need the SS office? Drive to medford.
Closest SS office is in Salem but good luck. There is a line of illegals outside the building all day because we're racist not to pay for invaders. Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (IYZ+m) 251
Things have gotten too real to mock that way...
Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning Agreed. Strange times. Posted by: MikeM at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (xxl1q) 252
Pesonally I hope they pull out the Feds and the Federal Building burns down...what a great campaign commercial!
Posted by: Nevergiveup at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (tsZQ+) 253
You do not understand because you are racist.
Oprah is hosting a show on how to be anti-racist. You will watch the show. We're all in this together. Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:42 PM (yvnmY) ........ ok, I'm a racist. Do I get a car? Posted by: wth at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (v0R5T) 254
recap:
-- George Floyd died May 25, 2020. -- Portland's riots began May 27. -- DHS Rapid Deployment Teams were formed June 26 https://t.co/Unxr7w83OZ?amp=1 Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (bDqIh) 255
I'm assured by a Lib acquaintance that it is part of Trump's plan to become Emperor. Awesome! Hope it works! Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (oVJmc) 256
I quit reading at 215, but I'm not sure what Boise, skateboarding, or roosting chickens has to do with any of this. Also I miss the guy who used to say "And so it begins...", too. And what about Joel Osteen?
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (hNEmI) 257
I'm assured by a Lib acquaintance that it is part of Trump's plan to become Emperor.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 12:44 PM (1vynn) If my choice is Empire or a return to rule by gaslighting shitweasels that have been selling our country to China, then Empire it is. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (J+mig) 258
I quit reading the stupid about comment 30. Some of you should never be allowed to criticize Democrats ever again. You are of the same intellect.
Posted by: nip at July 29, 2020 12:35 PM (yoqcZ) You will be missed. Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:36 PM (dNzKv) First 30 comments.... So I think what he's saying is 29 out of 30 Democrats go around saying some variation of "first." Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (hku12) 259
From the way I understand it, DHS will withdraw the quick response teams if the riots calm down and the State Police keep them away from the Federal building. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) ========= And what if the goons come back and the Portland cops take a knee? Isn't that what happened before? Is this going to be like me-and-the-babysitter trying to put me to bed? "Quiet down or I'll come back!" "Okay." (stays quiet while she stands in the door -- she shuts the door -- I count to five -- HAHAHAHAHAH) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (G51Gf) 260
Good to know America still knows how to end a war..
Posted by: Corona-refugee at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (zCvUR) 261
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- Yes. No one knows the future. By the way, I have not seen that guy who used to say *And so it begins...* I miss that guy. Posted by: MikeM at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM - - --- You don't see him because it already beganned a while ago. Posted by: irright at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (RVcmP) 262
Democrats seem to be against domestic tranquillity.
I cannot see how anyone approves, other than the people expecting to rule afterwards. Those people have no contingency thinking skills whatsoever. What a fucking mess. It should result in a landslide re-election of Trump. Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (1eJby) 263
I'm reclaiming my time.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (dNzKv) 264
Secession begins
Posted by: ALH at July 29, 2020 12:50 PM (Y0bLv) 265
recap: -- George Floyd died May 25, 2020. -- Portland's riots began May 27. -- DHS Rapid Deployment Teams were formed June 26 https://t.co/Unxr7w83OZ?amp=1 Posted by: Lizzy ======= Not exactly "rapid." Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:50 PM (G51Gf) 266
>>But does this woman think that if the feds leave that people will stop rioting?
Right? They burn down the federal courthouse and then move on to the next government building. The state house? State and federal prisons? The governor's residence? Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:50 PM (bDqIh) 267
225 Pol Pot and Robert Mugabe came to me in a dream last night. I awoke a happy, happy woman.
Posted by: Governor Kate Brown at July 29, 2020 12:43 PM (EgshT) Not to you. ON you... Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:51 PM (s2VJv) 268
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From the way I understand it, DHS will withdraw the quick response teams if the riots calm down and the State Police keep them away from the Federal building. Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) ========= And what if the goons come back and the Portland cops take a knee? Isn't that what happened before? Is this going to be like me-and-the-babysitter trying to put me to bed? "Quiet down or I'll come back!" "Okay." (stays quiet while she stands in the door -- she shuts the door -- I count to five -- HAHAHAHAHAH) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (G51Gf) ======== "The feds pulled out, so now the city can become peaceful again." *antifa attacks fed courthouse again* "Well, there goes that narrative." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 29, 2020 12:51 PM (UWqZJ) 269
Glad you agree that oregon governor is lying.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:41 PM (j12sz) I don't know that yet. It is possible. Perhaps even likely. But She said that ICE and CBP officers "start" leaving tomorrow. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:51 PM (ZfRYq) 270
Democrats seem to be against domestic tranquillity.
I cannot see how anyone approves, other than the people expecting to rule afterwards. Those people have no contingency thinking skills whatsoever. What a fucking mess. It should result in a landslide re-election of Trump. Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (1eJby) +++++++++++++ Only somewhat. They are against domestic tranquility right now. Directly opposed to the same. Once they come to power, they'll impose tranquility and like-mindedness through the direct application of terror. It's how communists work. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:51 PM (hYcqw) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:51 PM (unn44) 272
Or is the time when we say, at last we will have peace in our time.
Posted by: Corona-refugee at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (zCvUR) 273
It's come to this. America is such an unruly, disunited bunch of tribes that we're unsustainable as a democracy and need a Strongman. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (G51Gf) 274
recap:
-- George Floyd died May 25, 2020. -- Portland's riots began May 27. -- DHS Rapid Deployment Teams were formed June 26 https://t.co/Unxr7w83OZ?amp=1 Posted by: Lizzy at July 29, 2020 12:48 PM (bDqIh) ----- Timelines are racist, as are facts. Go stand in the corner until you achieve enlightenment. Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (UAMe5) 275
I'd be tempted to keep federal officers there to keep the riots going. Doesn't hurt Trump and won't hurt the national economy.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (j12sz) 276
I quit reading at 215, but I'm not sure what Boise, skateboarding, or roosting chickens has to do with any of this. Also I miss the guy who used to say "And so it begins...", too. And what about Joel Osteen?
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (hNEmI) I quit reading at 256. I miss MUMR. And Yo! Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (hku12) 277
>>>It's come to this. America is such an unruly, disunited bunch of tribes that we're unsustainable as a democracy and need a Strongman.
I nominate Connor McGregor Posted by: Wyatt Earp at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (VWp7G) 278
> But She said that ICE and CBP officers "start" leaving tomorrow.
I suppose if some of them get rotated out while others get rotated in to replace them, it's not TECHNICALLY a lie to say that some of them are "leaving". Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (unn44) 279
432 Hz? When it hits 435, sell it all.
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (RuIsu) 280
*blows bellowing Weight Watchers fart*
Posted by: Oprahpottamus at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (WfkVv) 281
Trumpentwatters threatening unspecified EOs over Big Tech "fairness", presumably their totalitarian publisher-like censorship of their properties that technically have the benefits of neutral platforms (not to mention de facto immunity for outlandish monopolistic anti-competitive behavior).
Complicated problem. Don't see how EOs are part of the toolbox but maybe we'll see. Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (OTzUX) 282
What this means is that the Federal courts will move to the other side of the state and anyone needing to do business there will be mightily inconvenienced.
Stupid is an understatement. Posted by: ALH at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (Y0bLv) 283
Air force one just flew over. Pretty cool. Trump giving a speech in West Texas today.
Posted by: brak at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (cG+eD) 284
"Well, there goes that narrative." Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield ======= Easy -- we swap in a new narrative! "None of this happened until the feds came." Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (G51Gf) 285
Playing instruments in tune is rayciss?
Guess that explains jazz I keed, I keed. I like some jazz. Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (FtO5h) 286
> It's come to this. America is such an unruly, disunited bunch of tribes that we're unsustainable as a democracy and need a Strongman.
I'm not giving up on the Republic yet, but if it goes, the commies better hope they get Caesar rather than Sulla. Because they really wouldn't like Sulla. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (unn44) 287
America is such an unruly, disunited bunch of tribes that we're unsustainable as a democracy and need a Strongman.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (G51Gf) Do you smell what the Rock is cooking? Posted by: The Rock, flexing his pecs at July 29, 2020 12:54 PM (UCGJN) 288
I just fought white supremacy by detuning my guitar. Sounds like shit, but WOKE!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 29, 2020 12:54 PM (FtO5h) 289
I don't know that yet. It is possible. Perhaps even likely. But She said that ICE and CBP officers "start" leaving tomorrow.
Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:51 PM (ZfRYq) Glad you agree that her first sentence is a lie. It'll be funny, if the ICE and CBP officers are pulled and then a greater number of feds from other agencies are put there just to make her look more like a lying idiot. Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:54 PM (j12sz) Posted by: AWFL at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (uY/aB) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (+y/Ru) 292
Federal government should put States on notice that if they won't accept federal protection for federal facilities, the feds will be sending the damage bills to the Statehouse.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (koNhm) 293
Don't forget Nadler said yesterday the peaceful protestors are you children, your parents, your grand parents, and community leaders. (I added a few groups)
Posted by: Colin at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (prSfl) 294
Guess who's onboard with HCQ/zinc/z-pack and tweeted out the MDs video????
Fucking Madonna of all people Posted by: Bicentennialguy at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (5h2in) 295
My blood is boiling.
Such obvious orchestrated chaos is being peddled by the media. Election Interferers Against Election Interference, Unite! Again, like the Jack Handey one liner. If anyone thinks they hate violence more than me, we, they had better have a knife. Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (1eJby) Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (H5knJ) 297
What a fucking mess. It should result in a landslide re-election of Trump.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 29, 2020 12:49 PM (1eJby) It will be record turnout, but the mail in votes will be 100% turnout where it counts. Posted by: Army of Recovered Missing Mail Trucks Full of Ballots for Biden at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (8B6Ng) 298
>After my discussions with VP Pence and others, the federal government has agreed to withdraw federal officers from Portland. They have acted as an occupying force & brought violence.
this is insane Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (iTXRQ) 299
> And what if the goons come back and the Portland cops take a knee?
Then it becomes clear that a state of insurrection exists, and that Oregon officials are no longer able to provide a republican form of government. Martial law is declared, and the status of antifa changes from "criminals" to "unlawful combatants". Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (unn44) 300
Complicated problem. Don't see how EOs are part of the toolbox but maybe we'll see.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (OTzUX) ++++++++++++ I had this earlier, but it was deeply willowed. Trump doesn't even need an EO to deal with big tech. Forget about speech fairness, speech codes, equal time, or anything else. Those are slippery slopes right to hell. Just direct the FTC to begin and expedite, with top institutional priority, antitrust actions against the tech monopolies and their mutual oligopolies. We need no new rules or laws or requirements. These firms are all in blatant antitrust violation. Break them up and blow them to pieces. There will be consequences. We can predict some of them, though not all of them. We'll learn. It will be worth the uncertainty and the disruptions. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:21 PM (hYcqw) Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (hYcqw) 301
290 Caesar like the salad?
Who is Sulla? Posted by: AWFL at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (uY/aB) Never expected an AWFL to do a deep historical reference like that. Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (j12sz) 302
It's come to this. America is such an unruly, disunited bunch of tribes that we're unsustainable as a democracy and need a Strongman.
I'm not giving up on the Republic yet, but if it goes, the commies better hope they get Caesar rather than Sulla. Because they really wouldn't like Sulla. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia Portland couldn't handle a strongman. I'd make Sherman thru Atlanta look like a pussy. Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (dhqL5) 303
Rush talking about a Gallup poll that alleges a massive percentage of people support the "protests."
Total bullshit. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at July 29, 2020 12:27 PM (s2VJv) Rush has been mailing it in for four years. The last time he was useful was pointing out how supporting Trump was giving a big middle finger to the GOPe. Now he just jerks it to Apple and some other ChyNa operative. Posted by: Captain Hate at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (y7DUB) 304
294 Guess who's onboard with HCQ/zinc/z-pack and tweeted out the MDs video????
Fucking Madonna of all people When it comes to HCQ, Madonna's gotten into the groove. She was boderline for a while. Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (FtO5h) 305
But She said that ICE and CBP officers "start" leaving tomorrow.
- "Why is it taking so long for illegals awaiting trial to be released or deported?" - These same Oregon voters Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (hNEmI) Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (NWiLs) 307
I suppose if some of them get rotated out while others get rotated in to replace them, it's not TECHNICALLY a lie to say that some of them are "leaving".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (unn44) That is what I am saying. Wolf's memo says that there is a joint plan to remove the Feds from Portland. Just having the negotiation cedes the argument. Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (ZfRYq) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (oVJmc) 309
It's come to this. America is such an unruly, disunited bunch of tribes that we're unsustainable as a democracy and need a Strongman.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (G51Gf) +++++++++++++ On the plus side, we know the answer to Ben Franklin's open question after the convention. We couldn't keep it. Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (hYcqw) 310
I'd be tempted to keep federal officers there to keep the riots going. Doesn't hurt Trump and won't hurt the national economy.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:52 PM (j12sz) Good point. Katie the wedding planner governor and other Democrats may be desperately trying to get these riots to stop... without letting the feds get any credit for it, and to lay blame ON the feds, because word has come down to them that it's bad politics. Oopsie! Sorry there, cupcake. You invited the poor relations, and now they're shitting on the floor, eating the dog's food, and breaking the good china. Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (hku12) 311
There's only one "L" in "marshal", dumb-ass.
Posted by: deputy u.s. marshal raylan givens at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (an7Mv) 312
Hey Democrats, gettin real sore here.
Posted by: The Chicken at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (koNhm) 313
I'm not giving up on the Republic yet, but if it goes, the commies better hope they get Caesar rather than Sulla.
Because they really wouldn't like Sulla. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (unn44) ---- Dunno. One of Caesar's big mistakes was not killing *enough* people. Mark A. and Octavian rectfied that error. Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (UAMe5) 314
That first tweet is a lie. Trump has not agreed to "withdraw" Federal Officers from Portland. Federal officers are still going to be there protecting Federal assets.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) When did a big or small lie ever stop them? Her "lie" then is further justification for the BLM-Antifa movement to do more sanctioned violence. "See, Trump reneged on his promise!" Only, that's not what was likely said, by Donald Trump. Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (vcOmj) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (+y/Ru) 316
Caesar like the salad?
Who is Sulla? Posted by: AWFL at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (uY/aB) ....... The pilot that landed in the Hudson? Posted by: wth at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (v0R5T) 317
Fine. Let worn-torn Portland burn. Same with war-torn Seattle.
Posted by: fly at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (2M/TV) 318
I quit reading at 318. I am reclaiming my time!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (dNzKv) 319
Well fuck you, Portland, and all who sail in her
present company excepted if you're a Horde member unlucky enough to be stuck there Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (iTXRQ) Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (oVJmc) 321
I thought Caesar was a damn dirty ape.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (FtO5h) 322
Um......
Ft. Lewis is, oh, less than 50mi away. It has two BDE Combat teams of the 2nd INF div there, a SF group, an MP Battalion, several other Combat support units, an Airforce presence, and NG\AR components near by. Near\about 50K of armed Feds nearby. Okay.... Posted by: Pinochet Air Tours Flt Attendant at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (zL/eJ) 323
And what if the goons come back and the Portland cops take a knee?
Then it becomes clear that a state of insurrection exists, and that Oregon officials are no longer able to provide a republican form of government. Martial law is declared, and the status of antifa changes from "criminals" to "unlawful combatants". Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia And Oregon is "de-stated" and becomes a territory. Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (dhqL5) 324
Rush talking about a Gallup poll that alleges a massive percentage of people support the "protests."
== That is truly laughable. They're not even trying to make their "findings" believable. Posted by: Lady in Black at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (O+I8R) 325
Who is Sulla?
-------------------- The big blue guy in Monsters Inc. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:57 PM (oVJmc) Landed an airplane on a river. Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (hku12) 326
Masters of propaganda and faction building.
It is amazing to see, really. And I wondered how hitler seized power. There are a lot of really stupid people out there just waiting to prove it to the world in the most destructive way. Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (1eJby) 327
"Sulla ordered some 1,500 nobles (i.e., senators and equites) executed, although it is estimated that as many as 9,000 people were killed. The purge went on for several months. Helping or sheltering a proscribed person was punishable by death, while killing a proscribed person was rewarded with two talents. Family members of the proscribed were not excluded from punishment, and slaves were not excluded from rewards. As a result, "husbands were butchered in the arms of their wives, sons in the arms of their mothers". The majority of the proscribed had not been enemies of Sulla, but instead were killed for their property, which was confiscated and auctioned off. The proceeds from auctioned property more than made up for the cost of rewarding those who killed the proscribed, filling the treasury. Possibly to protect himself from future political retribution, Sulla had the sons and grandsons of the proscribed banned from running for political office, a restriction not removed for over 30 years."
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (unn44) Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (iTXRQ) 329
America will remain a racist nation until we have reclamations for all black individuals!!!
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (hNEmI) 330
I am confused. If the "police practices" of, for example, the Oregon State Police need reforming, isn't that something that Gov. Kate Brown is in a position to effect in the course of doing her freakin job, instead of by provoking and enabling riots?
Posted by: anotheranon at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (kG240) 331
306 Fuck me running.
Country's fucked. Might as well party! Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (NWiLs) ======== Two chicks at the same time, dude. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, running from a biplane in a cornfield at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (UWqZJ) 332
Maybe Sulla didn't get a salad because he wasn't a dummy who let himself get knifed after winning.
Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (j12sz) 333
>>Portland couldn't handle a strongman.
I'd make Sherman thru Atlanta look like a pussy. Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (dhqL5) Portland Mayor Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann would like to know why the first and last word out of Portland's disgusting sewer-mouths isn't "Sir!" Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (yvnmY) 334
Trumpentwatters threatening unspecified EOs over Big Tech "fairness", presumably their totalitarian publisher-like censorship of their properties that technically have the benefits of neutral platforms (not to mention de facto immunity for outlandish monopolistic anti-competitive behavior). Complicated problem. Don't see how EOs are part of the toolbox but maybe we'll see. Posted by: rhomboid ======== Hence, I believe, BurtTC in the previous thread: people on the right who love them some red meat will cream themselves over the statement, but then get discouraged and angry when he doesn't do it. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (G51Gf) 335
thought Caesar was a damn dirty ape.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (FtO5h) Longing for the salad days Posted by: Oprahpottamus at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (WfkVv) 336
I fought systemic racism by ordering a double cheeseburger and small fries.
Posted by: LOL at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (EiNjl) 337
Caesar like the salad?
Who is Sulla? Posted by: AWFL at July 29, 2020 12:55 PM (uY/aB) The vocalist of Godsmack? Posted by: Robert at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (UCGJN) 338
Oregon should post a 200 million dollar bond to rebuild the courthouse in the event that they are not able to protect it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (yQpMk) 339
We are under enemy occupation and the Democrat Party is the enemy.
Posted by: LGoPs at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (7k/uO) 340
Two girls one Portland.
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (hNEmI) 341
294 Guess who's onboard with HCQ/zinc/z-pack and tweeted out the MDs video????
Fucking Madonna of all people When it comes to HCQ, Madonna's gotten into the groove. She was boderline for a while. == Papa, don't preach. She knows what she's talking about. Posted by: Lady in Black at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (O+I8R) 342
> One of Caesar's big mistakes was not killing *enough* people.
Yeah, that's why I said they'd better hope for Caesar rather than Sulla. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 01:00 PM (unn44) 343
324 Rush talking about a Gallup poll that alleges a massive percentage of people support the "protests."
-------- Great. So that must include a lot of Trump supporters. To the Narrative Mobile!!! Posted by: ... at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (bFcrv) 344
There's only one "L" in "marshal", dumb-ass.
And no 'i' in team. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (oVJmc) ----- But there is an "i" in "meat pie". Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (UAMe5) 345
Two chicks at the same time, dude.
You want two chicks as the same time. You'd settle for one chick. You're getting Bruce Jenner or the roidraging Gamestop "It's ma'am" manimal. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (H5knJ) 346
330
I am confused. If the "police practices" of, for example, the Oregon State Police need reforming, isn't that something that Gov. Kate Brown is in a position to effect in the course of doing her freakin job, instead of by provoking and enabling riots? Posted by: anotheranon at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (kG240) ____________ Check your premises. Posted by: ShainS at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (+4GhB) 347
I wish Portland was more like Portlandia.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (dNzKv) 348
Air force one just flew over. Pretty cool. Trump giving a speech in West Texas today.
Posted by: brak at July 29, 2020 12:53 PM (cG+eD) Did you wave?....I would've. Posted by: BignJames at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (X/Pw5) 349
299 > And what if the goons come back and the Portland cops take a knee?
Then it becomes clear that a state of insurrection exists, and that Oregon officials are no longer able to provide a republican form of government. Martial law is declared, and the status of antifa changes from "criminals" to "unlawful combatants". Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (unn44) Maybe that's what they want? All the usual suspects have been screaming the last few days that Trump is going to declare martial law & that Portland is the dry run. But who knows? I can't keep trying to figure out the motives of people as stupid and evil as they are. Posted by: josephistan at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (Izzlo) 350
Playing instruments in tune is rayciss?
- Well, now my singing is anti-racist. OK, let's see, "My dog has fleas." Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (+y/Ru) 351
How can Democrats keep the false of the compassionate party after all of this?
This should drive millions of people to the WalkAway thing. It is insane. Posted by: Denny Crane! at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (1eJby) 352
SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME
Posted by: wth ------- I think that 'skateboarding' has been redefined. It's now synonymous with 'bicycle locking'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (l0Lgi) 353
Guess who's onboard with HCQ/zinc/z-pack and tweeted out the MDs video????
Fucking Madonna of all people - This is the most puzzling thing to watch in all of this, and what establishes it as clearly an op against the nation. We don't know what helps. We don't have a treatment plan. DO NOT PRESCRIBE THIS!!! Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 01:02 PM (hNEmI) 354
I am a taxpayer, so I suppose I do support a few of the protesters.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at July 29, 2020 01:02 PM (dNzKv) 355
Also I quit reading at 371
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 01:02 PM (hNEmI) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 01:02 PM (unn44) 357
There's only one "L" in "marshal", dumb-ass.
And no 'i' in team. Contact your physician if your insurrection lasts more than 4 hours. Posted by: deplorable unperson - refuse to accept the Mask of the Beast at July 29, 2020 01:02 PM (luzVb) 358
Guess who's onboard with HCQ/zinc/z-pack and tweeted out the MDs video????
Fucking Madonna of all people When it comes to HCQ, Madonna's gotten into the groove. She was boderline for a while. Posted by: Guy Smiley at July 29, 2020 12:56 PM (FtO5h) Woohoo! Give that girl a lucky star! Generals Musk and Rowling would like to welcome you, Madonna, to the Culture War Joint Chiefs... Rogan says "Joint chiefs? Can I join??" Posted by: BurtTC at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (hku12) 359
nood
Posted by: blaster at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (ZfRYq) 360
355 Also I quit reading at 371
Posted by: Charles Darwin - COVID takes 15 min - get govt document with dates if you are quarantined and traced at July 29, 2020 01:02 PM (hNEmI) Sulla saw the future too. Posted by: Draki at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (j12sz) Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (kneels to no one on this Earth) at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (unn44) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (+y/Ru) 363
>>352
SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME Posted by: wth Scat-boarding, on the other hand, is torture. Especially disgusting torture. Posted by: Zod at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (yvnmY) 364
113 > I suspect Governor Kate's claims are overblown.
Trump has already called her a liar on Twatter. =============== She was already a liar the day she was elected. Posted by: Neil Cavuto's Fat Head at July 29, 2020 01:03 PM (MkuC5) 365
330 I am confused. If the "police practices" of, for example, the Oregon State Police need reforming, isn't that something that Gov. Kate Brown is in a position to effect in the course of doing her freakin job, instead of by provoking and enabling riots?
Posted by: anotheranon at July 29, 2020 12:59 PM (kG240) Sort of like trying to make Trump responsible for St. George. Minneapolis is run by libs as in Minnesota (including Keith Ellison). Seems the feds must be responsible for their state and local police policies, judging from the rioters and their (totally unaccountable) organizer/paymasters. Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 01:04 PM (ONvIw) 366
The crowds at the Courthouse don't care if the cops are US Marshalls or State Troopers. They chanted "all cops are bastards" off and on all night. Doubt if a change in uniform is going to make the antifa creeps embrace the locals.
Posted by: EveR at July 29, 2020 01:04 PM (ZZDMQ) 367
Governor spins. Its all she can do.
Posted by: socalcon at July 29, 2020 01:04 PM (Roy2Z) 368
Oregon should post a 200 million dollar bond to rebuild the courthouse in the event that they are not able to protect it.
Posted by: Grump928(C) Make it $20 billion and you might have something there. Posted by: weft cut-loop at July 29, 2020 01:04 PM (ysmsf) 369
>This should drive millions of people to the WalkAway thing. It is insane.
you would think- but I think you're going to find, as you go out there, that many Americans are too stupid to make the connection between the one thing and the other Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 01:05 PM (iTXRQ) 370
320
There's only one "L" in "marshal", dumb-ass. And no 'i' in team. Posted by: Mr. Peebles at July 29, 2020 12:58 PM (oVJmc) It's in the "A" hole. https://preview.tinyurl.com/yxgtpcbj Posted by: jim at July 29, 2020 01:05 PM (ynpvh) 371
The Feds aren't leaving until local/state police step up which means they will not be leaving. Go Trump, drain the swamp, MAGA!
Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at July 29, 2020 01:05 PM (tSosf) 372
'bout time somebody got back to reference Office Space.
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 01:06 PM (RuIsu) 373
But there is an "i" in "meat pie".
Posted by: Captain Obvious, of the sloop John B. at July 29, 2020 01:01 PM (UAMe5) Waiter, there's an eye in my meat pie. I'd like to speak with the manager. Posted by: Karen at July 29, 2020 01:06 PM (hku12) 374
I usually don't start reading until about 350.
Posted by: wth at July 29, 2020 01:06 PM (v0R5T) 375
BTW, panty-fa are using skateboards as weapons at riots because you always have an excuse to use one as transportation whereas if you have e.g. a baseball bat it's a deadly weapon because you're obviously not attending a soft/baseball game.
Posted by: andycanuck at July 29, 2020 01:06 PM (an7Mv) 376
Martial law is declared, and the status of antifa changes from "criminals" to "unlawful combatants". Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia ======= I've thought for a while that our sophisticated, time-consuming legal processes are not adequate for what's happening now. Another set of protocols, processes, SOPs, whatever should be enacted to stop the rioters, similar to holding asylum seekers in Mexico and streamlining the application process -- although the current process doesn't go nearly far enough. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at July 29, 2020 01:07 PM (G51Gf) 377
Yes. No one knows the future. By the way, I have not seen that guy who used to say *And so it begins...* I miss that guy.
Posted by: MikeM at July 29, 2020 12:16 PM (xxl1q) That was Kosh from Babylon 5. Posted by: Fox2! at July 29, 2020 01:08 PM (ttFVL) 378
Joe Mannix, sounds right - about anti-trust being the best path on this. Though the publisher/platform and Sec. 230 routes also seem worth pursuing. No really "slippery slope" with those that I can see.
Posted by: rhomboid at July 29, 2020 01:09 PM (OTzUX) 379
The Portlandia with KD Lang is what it's really like.
Posted by: notsothoreau at July 29, 2020 01:09 PM (JKNZq) 380
I usually don't start reading until about 350.
Posted by: wth ---------- I usually start upreading until I find a 'nood'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at July 29, 2020 01:09 PM (CTJwJ) 381
Martial law is declared, and the status of antifa changes from "criminals" to "unlawful combatants".
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia It moved. Posted by: rickb223 at July 29, 2020 01:11 PM (dhqL5) 382
Funny thing about anarchists, I don't think they care much who's in charge while they're mindlessly destroying other people's property. That stupid bint of a "governor" just made a big mistake. She'll be to blame now for all the bad things that are gong to come from this.
Posted by: MaDuece at July 29, 2020 01:11 PM (0dmP2) 383
has any President ever invoked the Insurrection Act
Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 01:12 PM (iTXRQ) 384
I'm a little torn on this move. There are good people in Oregon who need someone to step up for them. However, the Feds sent there were only protecting Federal property as was their mandate.
It is a no win situation for the administration unless you look at it from an election perspective. Then, pulling out makes more sense. I suspect internal polling on the ground in Oregon is looking pretty good for the state to have a bit of a Red Tsunami....and just sticking around is going to create any number of scenarios for the media and the democrats to demonize their opposition. So, let them turn it into a cesspool, and watch what happens at the voting booth. I don't necessarily like that mentality, but we can play the "ends justifies the means" game just as well as they can. Posted by: Orson at July 29, 2020 01:12 PM (SWfqM) Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2020 01:13 PM (vcOmj) 386
>That stupid bint of a "governor" just made a big mistake.
she is siding with the rioters, who also want the federal personnel removed which will make it easier for the rioters to destroy property and take lives Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 01:13 PM (iTXRQ) 387
Jan Brady called. Sed "It's always Marcia, Marcia, Marcia Law!
Posted by: klaftern at July 29, 2020 01:14 PM (RuIsu) 388
383 has any President ever invoked the Insurrection Act
Posted by: DB- just DB. at July 29, 2020 01:12 PM (iTXRQ) Of course Posted by: CN at July 29, 2020 01:14 PM (ONvIw) 389
which will make it easier for the rioters to destroy property and take lives Posted by: DB- just DB That place, Portland Oregon, is more than 10 miles from where I live. Should I care? Really? Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at July 29, 2020 01:16 PM (vcOmj) 390
I'm ok with the Feds calling noted scumbag and woman-killer Lon Horiuchi out of retirement on the condition that he only shoot fat white Antifa women.
I know it'll be hard for him to scope in on women NOT carrying infants, but I think he'll manage. Posted by: George Will's Punchable Face at July 29, 2020 01:26 PM (6MoD2) 391
According to President Trump, the Feds aren't leaving the city unless the city gets control of the situation, which doesn't look likely in the near future.
So Gov. Brown was probably lying, which is so unprecedented for a Democrat official. Posted by: Nancy at July 29, 2020 01:27 PM (E5KFa) 392
https://twitter.com/DLind/status/1288511792868724737
Posted by: SDN at July 29, 2020 01:28 PM (K9d/B) 393
The people of eastern Oregon need protection from the moon bat so-called government in Portland and Salem. Quarantine these places as if they had Covid-19. Their disease is worse than the pandemic.
And don't send the undesirables to Kotzebue, Alaska. Make a deal with Point Lay up the coast. Polar bears have eaten people there. Sending bait there will make happy polar bears who will leave the citizens alone. Posted by: Papa Charlie Whiskey at July 29, 2020 01:29 PM (VG+DT) 394
Could we at least agree that sexy librarians are a myth?
Posted by: Nadler at July 29, 2020 01:33 PM (EiNjl) 395
Let it burn. Screw them all.
Posted by: Redinabluestate at July 29, 2020 01:34 PM (cEyZT) 396
If anyone knows about life extension, it is Madonna.
Posted by: Thatch at July 29, 2020 01:45 PM (qWceQ) 397
Trump and Chad telling this scrunt not so fast, swampy
Posted by: Deepelemblues at July 29, 2020 01:47 PM (fuJH0) 398
Feds leave
OSP takes over Courthouse burns Feds come back with a vengeance National Guard is nationalized Portland is locked down Mayor, council members and rioters arrested for treason Win Win! Posted by: PDT at July 29, 2020 01:48 PM (jenEi) 399
I love BLM and Antifa! I tried to create this kind of world.
Posted by: Jim Jones at July 29, 2020 01:56 PM (BGgF+) 400
There is more law and order in Afghanistan than there is in Portland.
Where would you feel safer as an American citizen, Afghanistan or Portland? Probably still Portland but only because Antifa is full of losers who are only worrisome in large groups. Still, its much closer than it should be. Posted by: Botched_Lobotomy at July 29, 2020 02:35 PM (lRrON) 401
What I am seeing is that the Democrats have belatedly realized that the ordinary Americans are noticing their support for the violence. Despite the ludicrous spin by Gov. Brown, I think that this agreement is a walkback by the Democrats. I noticed that Gov. Brown claims that ICS and Border Patrol agents are leaving, not the U.S. Marshals, who will presumably be staying to guard the courthouse. What this agreement represents is the Democrats cutting a deal to rein in their violence in exchange for removing some, but not all, of the officers guarding the courthouse. Tl;dr: Pelosi and Nadler finally realized that their B.S. isn't playing in Peoria.
Posted by: A Concerned Citizen at July 29, 2020 02:45 PM (ycPm7) 402
I don't see that there's necessarily a contradiction here. Conservatives have been complaining for years that the Department of Agriculture and dozens of other inappropriate federal agencies have their own SWAT teams and commandos, and Trump has cleverly used them to fight Antifa, since there are Constitutional issues with using the actual military and he can't trust the top guys at the Pentagon anyway.
I suspect what happened today is that the stupid mayor thinks all the feds defending the courthouse are ICE and Border Patrol, Pence promised her ICE and Border Patrol employees will be withdrawn, so she's happy. Antifa thinks so, too, so they will out in force tonight thinking there will be little or no resistance. In that case, they'll get their asses kicked by the US Marshals, Department of Agriculture, Department of Interior, and the other 48 agencies whose teams Pence did not promise to remove. Meanwhile the ICE and BP guys can take a day or two off on their way to kick ass in Chicago or Philadelphia or wherever. You wouldn't think Mike Pence would be the good cop in a good cop-bad copy move, but in this case I think he is. Posted by: Dr. Weevil at July 29, 2020 03:47 PM (ccuyO) 403
The Stupid Jackass Party needs to be arrested
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at July 29, 2020 04:17 PM (FLiOE) 404
FYI...it should be noted that this 'deal' doesn't include the US Marshal's Service, which is charged with protecting a Federal US Court. They are STAYING.
It remains to be seen if the OSP can do the job, and failing that I'm guessing that all bets are off. That's my best guess... Posted by: CPT. Charles at July 29, 2020 04:59 PM (W+kMI) 405
Besides, I suspect that most of the key leaders of the unrest have already been bagged, photo'd and finger-printed (not to mention DNA swabbed).
So, mission accomplished. P.S.-- The aforementioned 'leaders', should they reappear in a new city are liable for additional federal charges since they crossed state lines to incite unrest. Posted by: CPT. Charles at July 29, 2020 05:04 PM (W+kMI) 406
So....if the federal courthouse or other federal property is heavily damaged or destroyed, I propose rebuilding - in eastern Oregon
Posted by: Btrrrgrrrl at July 29, 2020 05:10 PM (GDomT) 407
I know free trade is extremely unpopular here, but we are supposed to have free INTERSTATE trade, no?
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at July 29, 2020 05:18 PM (ejsiI) 408
Maybe it's a trap. When Pantifa breaks into the courthouse the feds just take them directly to Gitmo.
Excuse me while i check the label on what i'm drinking. Posted by: Igotnothing at July 29, 2020 05:51 PM (QMG4P) 409
THe thing to note here is the agreement is between the State of Oregon and the Federal Government, not between Portland and the Federal Government. Originally, the Oregon governor apparently denied a request from the Mayor to assist Portland police (ie take the Mayor off the hook for not protecting the federal courthouse).
It is the State police who will be working with the Federal Government not the Portland Police. The Portland police will take their cues from the Governor via the State Police. The total number of federal officers will not decrease in Portland for now, only certain specific agencies will reduce their numbers. The purpose of this shell game is to protect the Courthouse and end the riots using the State Police as the lead instead of federal law enforcement as the lead. It is actually a loss for Wheeler and Antifa. Finally, I am not a believer in coincidences. This agreement happens one day after the Dem's asinine treatment of the attorney general which even many democrats have criticized (i.e.. you may not eat lunch or use the restroom from Chairman Nadler). It also occurs one day after Joe Biden condemns violent protesters and says they should be jailed. They dems agreed to this because they are losing, not winning the PR war. Posted by: Punchinello at July 29, 2020 06:07 PM (zOrpp) 410
Mariposa
Posted by: Eve at July 29, 2020 06:29 PM (L5yo0) 411
Letting the Democrats announce this was fucking stupid. Trump should have announced the plan.
Posted by: Bevel Lemelisk at July 29, 2020 06:39 PM (X7OxF) 412
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