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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition
What about the U.S.? Would we ever follow such a course? As of now, the nine states and the District of Columbia that have legalized assisted suicide limit access to patients who are terminally ill. But that’s more a political expediency than a principled limitation. Indeed, restricting assisted suicide to the dying is philosophically unsustainable. Think about it. If the point of allowing suicide by doctor is to eliminate suffering — and if eliminating suffering can include eliminating the sufferer — how can facilitated death be forbidden to patients, such as those with dementia and mental illness, who may suffer far more extremely and for a much longer time than the already dying? It makes no sense.Because it is merely the first steps on the way to unrestricted state control of every aspect of our lives and deaths. it only becomes consistent and logical when control over the death of humans is taken from God and ceded to the state. The murder of innocents in the womb is the sacrament of the Democrat/Progressive movement in America. But to assume that they respect all other life is naive in the extreme, both logically and from even casual observation of their actions. It does not stop with abortion; it ends in concentration camps. Melodrama? No. It has happened before, and human nature says that it will happen again. So fighting abortion is not just a religious imperative reserved for the devout, it is the first battle against the worst excesses of the progressive drive for control. But a second front is developing, and we must push back against any hint that the aged and demented are any less human and deserving of society's protection than the hale and hearty and productive. That hits home with many of us; yes, it is a struggle with our parents, but defending their lives and intrinsic value is moral, and anything short of a full-throated defense of their lives and dignity is a failure on our and society's part.
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I WIN!!!!!!!
Posted by: SSBN 656 (G) at June 30, 2020 11:01 AM (jjaLl)
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Terri Schiavo.
Posted by: Flyover at June 30, 2020 11:01 AM (Rbu5d)
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One could say that Cuomo's order sending Chinese flu patients into nursing homes is similar.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at June 30, 2020 11:02 AM (E+OcO)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:03 AM (LvTSG)
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Which is exactly the point of abortion and euthanasia. The Nazis knew that, and began in 1933 with the careful and seemingly gentle culling of the most vulnerable among them: the weak, the infirm, the congenitally ill, the retarded.
If we did that, the dem party would cease to exist.
If we did that, the dem party would cease to exist.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:04 AM (zfBZT)
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and again, Carl Reiner, Rest in Peace.
Man had a great run. Read his autobiography sometime, it was entertaining.
Man had a great run. Read his autobiography sometime, it was entertaining.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:04 AM (ifmtJ)
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abortion is the most unnatural of crimes
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
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2 When Trump won PA in 2016 the Dems had a registration advantage of 915k.
Today their advantage is down to 800k.
Sabato's Crystall Ball (election forecasts)
It will be a tall order for Dems to beat Trump in PA.
Posted by: Ha at June 30, 2020 11:01 AM (KgzRF)
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"I don't like Trump now because of his tweets and my governor's assassination of elderly people in nursing homes."
-PA residents in NT's minds
Today their advantage is down to 800k.
Sabato's Crystall Ball (election forecasts)
It will be a tall order for Dems to beat Trump in PA.
Posted by: Ha at June 30, 2020 11:01 AM (KgzRF)
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"I don't like Trump now because of his tweets and my governor's assassination of elderly people in nursing homes."
-PA residents in NT's minds
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
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Well said, CBD
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (ONvIw)
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coulda been a contender
Posted by: Boomers remember stuff at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (vI+F1)
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Roberts just threw us religious rubes a bone.
He figures that changing the meaning of "sex", sanctioning his wanton lust for baby killing, ignoring the Second Amendment and completely abandoning the text of our Constitution might have pissed you off a bit. So he will throw you a few bucks of government cheese to subsidize your religious education, which he will continue to stomp on in every other possible way.
He figures that changing the meaning of "sex", sanctioning his wanton lust for baby killing, ignoring the Second Amendment and completely abandoning the text of our Constitution might have pissed you off a bit. So he will throw you a few bucks of government cheese to subsidize your religious education, which he will continue to stomp on in every other possible way.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (VpIIl)
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11 Age 30 and...
Run Sandman Logan run
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
you ever met anyone that renewed??
Run Sandman Logan run
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
you ever met anyone that renewed??
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (JFO2v)
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Margaret Sanger called them weeds in order to tip-toe around her call to abort babies of the lower classes.
Sanger, racist much? Yes. And the Nazis loved her.
Sanger, racist much? Yes. And the Nazis loved her.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (E+fVR)
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14 Roberts just threw us religious rubes a bone.
He figures that changing the meaning of "sex", sanctioning his wanton lust for baby killing, ignoring the Second Amendment and completely abandoning the text of our Constitution might have pissed you off a bit. So he will throw you a few bucks of government cheese to subsidize your religious education, which he will continue to stomp on in every other possible way.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (VpIIl)
That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
He figures that changing the meaning of "sex", sanctioning his wanton lust for baby killing, ignoring the Second Amendment and completely abandoning the text of our Constitution might have pissed you off a bit. So he will throw you a few bucks of government cheese to subsidize your religious education, which he will continue to stomp on in every other possible way.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (VpIIl)
That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)
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Oh and abortion...sure, ok, we can talk about that.
Abortion is killing. I support killing when it's justified. I don't support killing out of convenience.
If you tell me I have to kill a baby or kill my wife, then yeah, kill the baby. Not happy about it but that's my position.
Kid's PROBABLY going to be born retarded...that's a harder sell, to kill it. I've got a cousin with down's syndrome. Raising him was hell on my aunt and uncle and contributed to their divorce (though most of it was due to my uncle being an asshole Liberal). Tough call, might have been better off but the kid's all right and live in assisted living home, holds at job, etc. So I can't endorse killing the handicapped.
It's not abortion, it's killing. Frame it like that and it should make it clear when it's justified and when it's not.
My $.02
Abortion is killing. I support killing when it's justified. I don't support killing out of convenience.
If you tell me I have to kill a baby or kill my wife, then yeah, kill the baby. Not happy about it but that's my position.
Kid's PROBABLY going to be born retarded...that's a harder sell, to kill it. I've got a cousin with down's syndrome. Raising him was hell on my aunt and uncle and contributed to their divorce (though most of it was due to my uncle being an asshole Liberal). Tough call, might have been better off but the kid's all right and live in assisted living home, holds at job, etc. So I can't endorse killing the handicapped.
It's not abortion, it's killing. Frame it like that and it should make it clear when it's justified and when it's not.
My $.02
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (FzY9E)
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"Ha..." You got caught up in some troll busting. Sorry about that.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (dLLD6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (E+fVR)
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I know this is not a popular opinion here. But equating abortion with concentration camps does not change minds and hurts conservatives politically. Your typical 19 year old wants to fuck around and know if she gets knocked up her life isnt ruined. You telling her she is in league with Nazis is not the way to get her to change her mind.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (SjAGT)
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Amen CBD.
Posted by: Muad'dib at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (sjdRT)
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10 Age 30 and...
Run Sandman Logan run
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
Happy Birthday??
Run Sandman Logan run
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
Happy Birthday??
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:10 AM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:10 AM (bDqIh)
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I know this is not a popular opinion here. But equating abortion with concentration camps does not change minds and hurts conservatives politically. Your typical 19 year old wants to fuck around and know if she gets knocked up her life isnt ruined. You telling her she is in league with Nazis is not the way to get her to change her mind.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP
Give her a Teen Vogue magazine and tell her to learn anal. She can fuck all she wants.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP
Give her a Teen Vogue magazine and tell her to learn anal. She can fuck all she wants.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:10 AM (zfBZT)
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20 I know this is not a popular opinion here. But equating abortion with concentration camps does not change minds and hurts conservatives politically. Your typical 19 year old wants to fuck around and know if she gets knocked up her life isnt ruined. You telling her she is in league with Nazis is not the way to get her to change her mind.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (SjAGT)
Agreed. Just show her the ultrasound.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (SjAGT)
Agreed. Just show her the ultrasound.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 30, 2020 11:10 AM (PiwSw)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (k/TB6)
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I'm a Catholic, but that's not why i'm against abortion. I'm against it because they are slaughtering an innocent child which cannot defend itself.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (bkUtD)
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You telling her she is in league with Nazis is not the way to get her to change her mind.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (SjAGT)
Is that what I wrote? Because that was some interesting reading comprehension.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:09 AM (SjAGT)
Is that what I wrote? Because that was some interesting reading comprehension.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (dLLD6)
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You can't claim to be a Christian and support abortion, period.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (JUOKG)
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Seems like Roberts first murdered the babies, now he's trying to split the babies.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Sending Corona Infested Bats into SCOTUS Roberts's Bedroom at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (+dsLj)
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>>That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)
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And who decides who is mentally ill? Remember all the "psychiatrists" who've never met Trump declaring he has mental problems? I guess he' be next for the woodchipper.
And then me.
And then me.
Posted by: abbynormal at June 30, 2020 11:12 AM (I849g)
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"That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)"
I have zero faith in SCOTUS. It's become the most loathsome, politically infected institution we have.
Roberts isn't a jurist. He's a liberal activist who has been cowed by Democrats threats of no longer being invited to dinner parties.
I also have zero faith in Gorsuch after his convoluted attempt at reasoning. He's the next Souter.
Taken together, SCOTUS is proving everything the anti-Federalists feared.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)"
I have zero faith in SCOTUS. It's become the most loathsome, politically infected institution we have.
Roberts isn't a jurist. He's a liberal activist who has been cowed by Democrats threats of no longer being invited to dinner parties.
I also have zero faith in Gorsuch after his convoluted attempt at reasoning. He's the next Souter.
Taken together, SCOTUS is proving everything the anti-Federalists feared.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:12 AM (VpIIl)
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I believe in the book Logans Run, the age was 20, and your on your way. They changed it to 30 in the movie.
Posted by: Colin at June 30, 2020 11:12 AM (30CAi)
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As J.J. alluded to earlier, it's a stark contrast. The Party of Love and the folks that want to make America Great again versus the Party of Hatred and the folks that say America was never great.
What the Party of Abortion fails to understand is this logic: If you can kill an unborn baby in the womb, I can shoot you in the street.
Moral equivalence is a bitch.
What the Party of Abortion fails to understand is this logic: If you can kill an unborn baby in the womb, I can shoot you in the street.
Moral equivalence is a bitch.
Posted by: JAS at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (2BZBZ)
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Partly religious (lapsed RC here) and part that, well, it isn't NEEDED in the scale it is used at. It is not, and never should have been, an offshoot of birth control, and that's how it is being used.
If there were some reverence to it, some acknowledgement that it was a last, desperate resort, that would be one thing -- but the Left has perverted it into a standard, normal procedure, and it should NEVER have been that.
If there were some reverence to it, some acknowledgement that it was a last, desperate resort, that would be one thing -- but the Left has perverted it into a standard, normal procedure, and it should NEVER have been that.
Posted by: acethepug at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (qPKAe)
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And who decides who is mentally ill? Remember all the "psychiatrists" who've never met Trump declaring he has mental problems? I guess he' be next for the woodchipper.
And then me.
Posted by: abbynormal
^^^^^^^
THIS!
And then me.
Posted by: abbynormal
^^^^^^^
THIS!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (zfBZT)
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Don't get me started about "rape and incest". Though given recent events, I shouldn't be surprised at progs advocating killing the innocent for the sins of the father.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (OUMaO)
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You brought up concentration camps in an abortion discussion. And what Im saying is youve lost any ability to bring your point across to someone whose mind you want to change when you do that.
You brought up concentration camps in an abortion discussion. And what Im saying is youve lost any ability to bring your point across to someone whose mind you want to change when you do that.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (SjAGT)
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I'm against it because they are slaughtering an innocent child which cannot defend itself.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (bkUtD)
Yes. I am not particularly religious, but the brutality of killing an innocent is simply beyond the pale.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (bkUtD)
Yes. I am not particularly religious, but the brutality of killing an innocent is simply beyond the pale.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (dLLD6)
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31 >>That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)
Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)
Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (ifmtJ)
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The slippery slope is real.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (LpjIG)
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And who decides who is mentally ill? Remember all the "psychiatrists" who've never met Trump declaring he has mental problems? I guess he' be next for the woodchipper.
And then me.
Posted by: abbynormal
Straight from the old Soviet playbook, no shocker there.
And then me.
Posted by: abbynormal
Straight from the old Soviet playbook, no shocker there.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (OUMaO)
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>>So fighting abortion is not just a religious imperative reserved for the devout
It's not reserved for the devout.
It's not reserved for the devout.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (ZS9TG)
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7 abortion is the most unnatural of crimes
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
Supposed to. Many don't.
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
Supposed to. Many don't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
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Liberalism corrupts everything it touches, it truly is a cult. I was lucky enough to be red pilled in college as Fine Arts Major, go figure.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (k/TB6)
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Colorado had those two items on the ballot on 2016, but only assisted suicide was passed.
If you look at places that have assisted suicide + socialized medicine, such as the Netherlands, things get out of hand quickly. Netherlands has Groningen Protocol, which is post-birth abortion (where doctor decides; parent have no say). In the last few years they've also extended assisted suicide to people under 18 - forget the age requirement - but really, allowing *teens* to decide to suicide?!? Hello, teens are emotional rollercoasters with no great life experience/wisdom to understand that whatever they're dealing with (big or small) can be overcome, will almost always not be as bad as they think at the time.
Horrid.
If you look at places that have assisted suicide + socialized medicine, such as the Netherlands, things get out of hand quickly. Netherlands has Groningen Protocol, which is post-birth abortion (where doctor decides; parent have no say). In the last few years they've also extended assisted suicide to people under 18 - forget the age requirement - but really, allowing *teens* to decide to suicide?!? Hello, teens are emotional rollercoasters with no great life experience/wisdom to understand that whatever they're dealing with (big or small) can be overcome, will almost always not be as bad as they think at the time.
Horrid.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (bDqIh)
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You brought up concentration camps in an abortion
discussion. And what Im saying is youve lost any ability to bring your
point across to someone whose mind you want to change when you do that.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (SjAGT)
Were you unable to follow the argument? Did you not understand the progression I laid out? I realize that there are no diagrams and pictures, but it isn't a complex argument.
discussion. And what Im saying is youve lost any ability to bring your
point across to someone whose mind you want to change when you do that.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (SjAGT)
Were you unable to follow the argument? Did you not understand the progression I laid out? I realize that there are no diagrams and pictures, but it isn't a complex argument.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (dLLD6)
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43 And who decides who is mentally ill? Remember all the "psychiatrists" who've never met Trump declaring he has mental problems?
You mean Bitch Bandy? She's quite a piece of work.
You mean Bitch Bandy? She's quite a piece of work.
Posted by: JEM at June 30, 2020 11:15 AM (8erNz)
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I saw this Youtube video by Vernon Coleman, claiming that the governments were using Wuflu to kill off the elderly. You Tube took it down of course. Here's the link to his website. I don't know anything about him.
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/main.htm
It's under Health. The document is "Your Government wants you dead".
http://www.vernoncoleman.com/main.htm
It's under Health. The document is "Your Government wants you dead".
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 30, 2020 11:15 AM (JKNZq)
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The government of India has just taken a step that I dearly wish we could do here, in fact one I think is essential to our security (India has stated this is essential to theirs):
India has banned TikTok and other Chinese mobile apps on the grounds of National Security. Prime Ninister Naredra Modi's government has blacklisted 59 China-based apps, calling them malicious tools that harm India's sovereignty as well as the privacy of its citizens.
The banned Chinese apps were "prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defense of India, security of state and public order," the Indian government said in a statement. India's Ministry of Information Technology accused these apps of "stealing" and "surreptitiously transmitting" user data.
India has banned TikTok and other Chinese mobile apps on the grounds of National Security. Prime Ninister Naredra Modi's government has blacklisted 59 China-based apps, calling them malicious tools that harm India's sovereignty as well as the privacy of its citizens.
The banned Chinese apps were "prejudicial to sovereignty and integrity of India, defense of India, security of state and public order," the Indian government said in a statement. India's Ministry of Information Technology accused these apps of "stealing" and "surreptitiously transmitting" user data.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (Kpl3J)
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Liberalism corrupts everything it touches, it truly
is a cult. I was lucky enough to be red pilled in college as Fine Arts
Major, go figure.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (k/TB6)
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That was the first big lie that totalitarian leftists named themselves "liberals."
is a cult. I was lucky enough to be red pilled in college as Fine Arts
Major, go figure.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (k/TB6)
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That was the first big lie that totalitarian leftists named themselves "liberals."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (pw+jk)
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Targeting People With Mental Illness and Dementia for Euthanasia
...
Hey guys, where are you going with this?
Targeting People With Mental Illness and Dementia for Euthanasia
...
Hey guys, where are you going with this?
Posted by: Biden at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (KgzRF)
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That hits home with many of us; yes, it is a struggle with our parents, but defending their lives and intrinsic value is moral, and anything short of a full-throated defense of their lives and dignity is a failure on our and society's part.
Ain't no one size fits all, coach.
My father would not have qualified for assisted suicide because he was not conscious or self-aware. He could have benefited mightily from a dose of the heavy tranq, but instead we had to wait for his feeding tube to clog and choose not to replace it.
So, yeah, he lay in bed for over a year and was then allowed to starve to death.
Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Ain't no one size fits all, coach.
My father would not have qualified for assisted suicide because he was not conscious or self-aware. He could have benefited mightily from a dose of the heavy tranq, but instead we had to wait for his feeding tube to clog and choose not to replace it.
So, yeah, he lay in bed for over a year and was then allowed to starve to death.
Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (gd9RK)
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45 7 abortion is the most unnatural of crimes
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
Supposed to. Many don't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Post-birth baby killing has historically been very common, especially in Asia.
Not saying it's good, far from it, but it's not some modern invention.
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
Supposed to. Many don't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Post-birth baby killing has historically been very common, especially in Asia.
Not saying it's good, far from it, but it's not some modern invention.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (ifmtJ)
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>>>Yes. I am not particularly religious, but the brutality of killing an innocent is simply beyond the pale.
I know a few people who've had abortions, and that's their choice, I guess. I don't demean them, but I also don't agree with them.
I know a few people who've had abortions, and that's their choice, I guess. I don't demean them, but I also don't agree with them.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (bkUtD)
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If you look at places that have assisted suicide + socialized medicine, such as the Netherlands, things get out of hand quickly. - Lizzy
Did anyone see the story about the woman who struggled against her "assisted suicide?" Yeah, that's where it goes.
If you look at places that have assisted suicide + socialized medicine, such as the Netherlands, things get out of hand quickly. - Lizzy
Did anyone see the story about the woman who struggled against her "assisted suicide?" Yeah, that's where it goes.
Posted by: abbynormal at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (I849g)
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"That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)"
Take another toke, stoner. Maybe you'll see the bigger picture.
What Roberts did is say the state can't discriminate in handing out public money to educational institutions. But what he did in practicality is state he will define what religious beliefs you can have, and how you will practice them.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)"
Take another toke, stoner. Maybe you'll see the bigger picture.
What Roberts did is say the state can't discriminate in handing out public money to educational institutions. But what he did in practicality is state he will define what religious beliefs you can have, and how you will practice them.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:17 AM (VpIIl)
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I also have zero faith in Gorsuch after his convoluted attempt at reasoning. He's the next Souter.
*****
I hate to keep defending Gorsuch but Souter was hard left after he was appointed. I don't think he ever ruled conservatively.
Gorsuch in comparison has been more consistent than Alito until his mighty licking of the ass of teh gheys ruling, and even then it was a throwaway vote.
His reasoning was retarded and does give cause for alarm, but he's been back to the right ever since. It does indicate the potential that he will "grow" but so far he's not nearly the fucking sonbitch motherfucka Roberts is.
*****
I hate to keep defending Gorsuch but Souter was hard left after he was appointed. I don't think he ever ruled conservatively.
Gorsuch in comparison has been more consistent than Alito until his mighty licking of the ass of teh gheys ruling, and even then it was a throwaway vote.
His reasoning was retarded and does give cause for alarm, but he's been back to the right ever since. It does indicate the potential that he will "grow" but so far he's not nearly the fucking sonbitch motherfucka Roberts is.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Sending Corona Infested Bats into SCOTUS Roberts's Bedroom at June 30, 2020 11:17 AM (+dsLj)
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Roberts just threw us religious rubes a bone.
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I think John F'ing Roberts cut a deal w/Ruthie Meinhoff: She would flip on DACA, if he gave her an abortion win. That's what the left is obsessed with.
Oh and, Roberts wouldn't want to get put at a bad table at the Chevy Chase Country Club charity ball.
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I think John F'ing Roberts cut a deal w/Ruthie Meinhoff: She would flip on DACA, if he gave her an abortion win. That's what the left is obsessed with.
Oh and, Roberts wouldn't want to get put at a bad table at the Chevy Chase Country Club charity ball.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at June 30, 2020 11:17 AM (7Fj9P)
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>>48
You brought up concentration camps in an abortion
discussion. Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (SjAGT)
There's a certain amount of incidental Godwin's Law that can be invoked (or ignored) whenever "concentration camps" or, for that matter "camps" of any kind, are mentioned. That's probably what's occurred here...
You brought up concentration camps in an abortion
discussion. Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (SjAGT)
There's a certain amount of incidental Godwin's Law that can be invoked (or ignored) whenever "concentration camps" or, for that matter "camps" of any kind, are mentioned. That's probably what's occurred here...
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:17 AM (ZS9TG)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:17 AM (SjAGT)
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Interesting local story, survey found out that very few black children got any education after the schools were closed. Mothers didn't know or bother to try and educate.Cuomo isn't sure NY schools will open this fall.
Posted by: Colin at June 30, 2020 11:18 AM (30CAi)
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That was the first big lie that totalitarian leftists named themselves "liberals."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (pw+jk)
Yes, very true. First step is redefinition of basic words.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (pw+jk)
Yes, very true. First step is redefinition of basic words.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:18 AM (k/TB6)
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14 Roberts just threw us religious rubes a bone.
He figures that changing the meaning of "sex", sanctioning his wanton lust for baby killing, ignoring the Second Amendment and completely abandoning the text of our Constitution might have pissed you off a bit. So he will throw you a few bucks of government cheese to subsidize your religious education, which he will continue to stomp on in every other possible way.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (VpIIl)
That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)
My initial reaction as well.
He figures that changing the meaning of "sex", sanctioning his wanton lust for baby killing, ignoring the Second Amendment and completely abandoning the text of our Constitution might have pissed you off a bit. So he will throw you a few bucks of government cheese to subsidize your religious education, which he will continue to stomp on in every other possible way.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (VpIIl)
That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (Kpl3J)
My initial reaction as well.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at June 30, 2020 11:18 AM (LpjIG)
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54 That hits home with many of us; yes, it is a struggle with our parents, but defending their lives and intrinsic value is moral, and anything short of a full-throated defense of their lives and dignity is a failure on our and society's part.
Ain't no one size fits all, coach.
My father would not have qualified for assisted suicide because he was not conscious or self-aware. He could have benefited mightily from a dose of the heavy tranq, but instead we had to wait for his feeding tube to clog and choose not to replace it.
So, yeah, he lay in bed for over a year and was then allowed to starve to death.
Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (gd9RK)
Bander has a point.
I believe everyone has a right to pick how and when they check out.
I would NOT want to be in that state and I've made that clear to my wife.
Ain't no one size fits all, coach.
My father would not have qualified for assisted suicide because he was not conscious or self-aware. He could have benefited mightily from a dose of the heavy tranq, but instead we had to wait for his feeding tube to clog and choose not to replace it.
So, yeah, he lay in bed for over a year and was then allowed to starve to death.
Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (gd9RK)
Bander has a point.
I believe everyone has a right to pick how and when they check out.
I would NOT want to be in that state and I've made that clear to my wife.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:18 AM (ifmtJ)
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Maybe it would help to think of it this way.
You are a person with Obama-level worship of the Abortion Sacrament. Does that not betray a certain disrespect for life in and of itself?
And CBD is correct, that kind of attitude enables all kinds of crap. For the Nazis it was the wholesale slaughter of a people. For the Left today, we see things like Cancel Culture, where a person's livelihood is just denied for wrong think. I see no problem with how CBD laid things out.
These things start off slow and "reasonable." Recall the post on POWs who were indoctrinated by ChiComs. Then it progresses until we find ourselves with an iron boot in our faces.
You are a person with Obama-level worship of the Abortion Sacrament. Does that not betray a certain disrespect for life in and of itself?
And CBD is correct, that kind of attitude enables all kinds of crap. For the Nazis it was the wholesale slaughter of a people. For the Left today, we see things like Cancel Culture, where a person's livelihood is just denied for wrong think. I see no problem with how CBD laid things out.
These things start off slow and "reasonable." Recall the post on POWs who were indoctrinated by ChiComs. Then it progresses until we find ourselves with an iron boot in our faces.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 30, 2020 11:18 AM (Ve//x)
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FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:18 AM (Zz0t1)
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Watch the Nazi propaganda film Life Without Meaning
Learned elderly German professor lecturing two earnest and smart Aryan students, male and female. And after shocking the viewer with images of the feeble minded and handicapped pleads to his students that if he ever gets in that situation to kill him.
Learned elderly German professor lecturing two earnest and smart Aryan students, male and female. And after shocking the viewer with images of the feeble minded and handicapped pleads to his students that if he ever gets in that situation to kill him.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (E+fVR)
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69, baby.....
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (pw+jk)
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Interesting local story, survey found out that very few black children got any education after the schools were closed. Mothers didn't know or bother to try and educate.Cuomo isn't sure NY schools will open this fall.
Posted by: Colin
Same could be said about swaths of South and West Dallas.
Posted by: Colin
Same could be said about swaths of South and West Dallas.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (zfBZT)
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72 I am against killing people with dementia.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (pw+jk)
LOL
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (pw+jk)
LOL
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (ifmtJ)
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>>Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom.
It is a hugely important issue to many voters including many black voters who want their kids out of government schools. Trump calls school choice "the civil rights issue of our time". I expect this will be a huge part of his re-election platform.
No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom.
It is a hugely important issue to many voters including many black voters who want their kids out of government schools. Trump calls school choice "the civil rights issue of our time". I expect this will be a huge part of his re-election platform.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)
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Your typical 19 year old wants to fuck around and know if she gets knocked up her life isnt ruined. You telling her she is in league with Nazis is not the way to get her to change her mind.
Frankly, if she's 19 and "fucking around" then her life is already ruined, she just hasn't found out yet.
How about pointing out that abortion says that an innocent life can be deleted because it's an inconvenience. And then point out that everyone is inconvenient to someone.
Frankly, if she's 19 and "fucking around" then her life is already ruined, she just hasn't found out yet.
How about pointing out that abortion says that an innocent life can be deleted because it's an inconvenience. And then point out that everyone is inconvenient to someone.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (eFYNk)
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55 45 7 abortion is the most unnatural of crimes
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
Supposed to. Many don't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Post-birth baby killing has historically been very common, especially in Asia.
Not saying it's good, far from it, but it's not some modern invention.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (ifmtJ)
True. Many cultures have practiced infanticide over the years.
mothers are supposed to protect their kids
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (WwTwF)
Supposed to. Many don't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:14 AM (NWiLs)
Post-birth baby killing has historically been very common, especially in Asia.
Not saying it's good, far from it, but it's not some modern invention.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (ifmtJ)
True. Many cultures have practiced infanticide over the years.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (NWiLs)
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Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (gd9RK)
Protection of the dignity of life does not mean going overboard with medical intervention. On the contrary, a dignified life includes a dignified end to that life.
Allowing nature to take its course is far different than drugging a dementia patient's coffee then injecting her with death-dealing drugs as she struggles against them.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM (gd9RK)
Protection of the dignity of life does not mean going overboard with medical intervention. On the contrary, a dignified life includes a dignified end to that life.
Allowing nature to take its course is far different than drugging a dementia patient's coffee then injecting her with death-dealing drugs as she struggles against them.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (dLLD6)
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>>>Interesting local story, survey found out that very few black children got any education after the schools were closed
The Philadelphia teacher's union fought to NOT give Zoom classes to their students after the Wuhan lockdown. I guess the teachers were too busy sleeping until noon.
I believe the school district decided to move everyone up a grade anyway, despite missing three months of classes.
The Philadelphia teacher's union fought to NOT give Zoom classes to their students after the Wuhan lockdown. I guess the teachers were too busy sleeping until noon.
I believe the school district decided to move everyone up a grade anyway, despite missing three months of classes.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (bkUtD)
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The death sentence should not be applied without a charge, a trial, a lawyer, a jury, a judge, and the right to an appeal. To deprive a person of the right to be alive, based on 'I just want you gone', is a dangerous road to go down.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (lwiT4)
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"Post-birth baby killing has historically been very common, especially in Asia."
And the Romans would often practice that as well in the most cruel and vicious ways.
Guess where that got them?
It is the most unnatural, anti-life practice to kill your children. It has presaged the demise of many civilizations.
And the Romans would often practice that as well in the most cruel and vicious ways.
Guess where that got them?
It is the most unnatural, anti-life practice to kill your children. It has presaged the demise of many civilizations.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:20 AM (VpIIl)
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>>Take another toke, stoner. Maybe you'll see the bigger picture.
Does that bigger picture include the massacre of Syrians after we pull out our troops, Mr Big Picture?
Does that bigger picture include the massacre of Syrians after we pull out our troops, Mr Big Picture?
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:20 AM (ZLI7S)
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abortion is the most unnatural of crimes, mothers are supposed to protect their kids
**************
Women have to dehumanize a life in order to rationalize killing the life inside them without remorse.
If they can do that it's not a large leap to begin dehumanizing grown adults because they won't fund their birth control pills for religious reasons.
Does any moron really think it wise to marry someone with that kind of mentality?
**************
Women have to dehumanize a life in order to rationalize killing the life inside them without remorse.
If they can do that it's not a large leap to begin dehumanizing grown adults because they won't fund their birth control pills for religious reasons.
Does any moron really think it wise to marry someone with that kind of mentality?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Sending Corona Infested Bats into SCOTUS Roberts's Bedroom at June 30, 2020 11:21 AM (+dsLj)
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You can't just go around killing people.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 30, 2020 11:21 AM (lwiT4)
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We should have publicized the Gosnell case more. We should have had pictures of the babies that were aborted publicized. There were out there at the time and there was no way someone could pass them off as a "clump of cells". And in the book, women that had abortions from him talked about how they were told that there were no physical affects from abortions. Turned out he lied to them.
I used to be pro-abortion, but changed my mind about it, over time.
I used to be pro-abortion, but changed my mind about it, over time.
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 30, 2020 11:21 AM (JKNZq)
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>>I saw this Youtube video by Vernon Coleman, claiming that the governments were using Wuflu to kill off the elderly. You Tube took it down of course. Here's the link to his website. I don't know anything about him.
Given how 5 or so DEMOCRAT governors insisted that Wuhan flu infected people be placed in nursing homes, despite other hospitals being available to take them (such as the federal government's temp hospitals, Samaritan's Purse hospital in NYC), that seems like a reasonable theory.
Add to that the NY state was dealing with a huge Medicare funding need and Cuomo wants to provide free healthcare to illegal aliens, killing off seniors is a way to do it.
These people have blood on their hands.
Given how 5 or so DEMOCRAT governors insisted that Wuhan flu infected people be placed in nursing homes, despite other hospitals being available to take them (such as the federal government's temp hospitals, Samaritan's Purse hospital in NYC), that seems like a reasonable theory.
Add to that the NY state was dealing with a huge Medicare funding need and Cuomo wants to provide free healthcare to illegal aliens, killing off seniors is a way to do it.
These people have blood on their hands.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:21 AM (bDqIh)
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75 >>Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom.
It is a hugely important issue to many voters including many black voters who want their kids out of government schools. Trump calls school choice "the civil rights issue of our time". I expect this will be a huge part of his re-election platform.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)
Government money for homeschooling?
No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom.
It is a hugely important issue to many voters including many black voters who want their kids out of government schools. Trump calls school choice "the civil rights issue of our time". I expect this will be a huge part of his re-election platform.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)
Government money for homeschooling?
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at June 30, 2020 11:22 AM (LpjIG)
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>>>You brought up concentration camps in an abortion
discussion. And what Im saying is youve lost any ability to bring your
point across to someone whose mind you want to change when you do that.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. The philosophy of abortion is monstrous. And is separated from concentration camps in degree but not kind. People whom support that philosophy of the convenience of human life for others as justification for their next heartbeat need to be told, at least time to time, that they are monsters.
Lest we fail in our duty to warn others.
discussion. And what Im saying is youve lost any ability to bring your
point across to someone whose mind you want to change when you do that.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. The philosophy of abortion is monstrous. And is separated from concentration camps in degree but not kind. People whom support that philosophy of the convenience of human life for others as justification for their next heartbeat need to be told, at least time to time, that they are monsters.
Lest we fail in our duty to warn others.
Posted by: mikethemoose at June 30, 2020 11:22 AM (Y6UV7)
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Man come on, its 2020 FFS not 1955. When I was 19, 25ish years ago in college, fucking around was SOP for everyone, both sexes. This is reality. You may not like it, fine. But this is exactly my point. You want to change peoples minds but call them sluts and murderers. That wont ever work and will only make your position that much more alien to the be try people you are trying to reach.
Man come on, its 2020 FFS not 1955. When I was 19, 25ish years ago in college, fucking around was SOP for everyone, both sexes. This is reality. You may not like it, fine. But this is exactly my point. You want to change peoples minds but call them sluts and murderers. That wont ever work and will only make your position that much more alien to the be try people you are trying to reach.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:22 AM (SjAGT)
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Wait. You're against euthanizing Biden?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (+y/Ru)
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The only thing Cafeteria Catholic Pelosi hates more than President Trump and his supporters is the unborn.
There's a special place in Hell waiting for her when she gratefully dies.
There's a special place in Hell waiting for her when she gratefully dies.
Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (iiT9X)
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Frankly, if she's 19 and "fucking around" then her life is already ruined, she just hasn't found out yet.
Are we a Smart Prude Blog now? Did you want to get laid at 19? I sure did.
It required the cooperation of +/- 19 year old girls. Are all of their lives ruined?
Are we a Smart Prude Blog now? Did you want to get laid at 19? I sure did.
It required the cooperation of +/- 19 year old girls. Are all of their lives ruined?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (gd9RK)
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Just wait until your doctor and psychologist get a nice lump sum from the government to free up a bed.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (E+fVR)
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75 >>Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom.
It is a hugely important issue to many voters including many black voters who want their kids out of government schools. Trump calls school choice "the civil rights issue of our time". I expect this will be a huge part of his re-election platform.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)
I can see the importance of the decision and I agree it's useful and probably necessary. I just can't help linking the two issues together in my mind.
This decision may be important to society in 20 years. But in 20 years, it may not matter after two decades of 'gender is what you think it is'.
But thanks, as always.
No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom.
It is a hugely important issue to many voters including many black voters who want their kids out of government schools. Trump calls school choice "the civil rights issue of our time". I expect this will be a huge part of his re-election platform.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM (ZLI7S)
I can see the importance of the decision and I agree it's useful and probably necessary. I just can't help linking the two issues together in my mind.
This decision may be important to society in 20 years. But in 20 years, it may not matter after two decades of 'gender is what you think it is'.
But thanks, as always.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (ifmtJ)
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I saw this Youtube video by Vernon Coleman, claiming that the governments were using Wuflu to kill off the elderly. You Tube took it down of course. Here's the link to his website. I don't know anything about him.
I don't even think it's all that conspiratorial at this point. Killing the elderly converts likely GOP voters into reliable Dem ones via fraud and frees up state budgets to give more free shit to illegals.
I don't even think it's all that conspiratorial at this point. Killing the elderly converts likely GOP voters into reliable Dem ones via fraud and frees up state budgets to give more free shit to illegals.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (ZGrMX)
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It's not that hard to prevent conception. If you can't figure that out, you probably shouldn't be having sex.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (xfb67)
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There are two major problems with euthanasia that I see, and neither of them is that it is suicide. I think suicide is wrong, but that's a vain and stupid thing to say. I have no way of knowing what another man's limits are. And that is part of the problem - neither is the doctor. Only the man himself does, and if he takes his own life then it is a tragedy but I am not going to judge it. I can't.
My two huge major problems are sort of aligned with this. First is that "assisted suicide" isn't. It's just killing with a different name. Is it justifiable homicide? Maybe. I can't judge that, either. But the state - and the medical industry in general - doesn't have a splendid track record in this regard, and I don't trust them to make good decisions or act as effective gatekeepers. I think the state should not be enabled by law to do so. Doctors are a stickier problem, but I probably agree with prohibiting (or, rather, not enabling) them, too.
The other is a "slippery slope" problem. Right now, it is voluntary. What happens when euthanasia becomes compulsory? Who decides and by what standard? How is corruption to be managed? At what point does it become a genocide of the undesirables, under the auspice of a man in a white coat and pleasant bedside manner? Moreover, whether voluntary or compulsory, what is the standard of acceptance? How does it change? How are those changes rationalized? In a system where such a thing is legal, a cancer patient in constant agony and less than three months to live anyway is a sort of obvious scenario. But what about less obvious things? What about a teenager who has had his heart broken and is in the throes of anguished, debilitating depression? This will pass, of course - the loss of a first love always does - but the teenager doesn't know that. What if "depression" becomes a legal cause for "assisted suicide?"
The whole thing is too fraught with peril. If a man wishes to kill himself, then he may do so. No law will ever change that. There are means aplenty - some messy, some clean, some fast, some slow, some easy, some hard, but means nonetheless.
I oppose the death penalty even when entirely justified because the state and judicial systems have proven themselves unreliable arbiters of truth, justice or honesty. I oppose the death penalty not for moral reasons - I firmly believe that there *are* killing offenses - but because I don't trust those who carry it out. And I don't want to be a party to wrongful homicide performed in my name by men I don't trust. Euthanasia regimes have the same problems with even less accountability and even greater dishonesty and even more perverted incentives. Even if there is a moral argument to made for "mercy killing" - and I think there probably is - it is not a problem that the state or a medical system is disposed toward solving fairly if at all.
The expediency of the day will rule such a system, and the corpses will pile up as a result. All you need to do is look back 6-8 weeks at the executive orders that sent thousands of "worthless" old people to their deaths in nursing homes to see how this will play out at first. It only gets worse from there.
My two huge major problems are sort of aligned with this. First is that "assisted suicide" isn't. It's just killing with a different name. Is it justifiable homicide? Maybe. I can't judge that, either. But the state - and the medical industry in general - doesn't have a splendid track record in this regard, and I don't trust them to make good decisions or act as effective gatekeepers. I think the state should not be enabled by law to do so. Doctors are a stickier problem, but I probably agree with prohibiting (or, rather, not enabling) them, too.
The other is a "slippery slope" problem. Right now, it is voluntary. What happens when euthanasia becomes compulsory? Who decides and by what standard? How is corruption to be managed? At what point does it become a genocide of the undesirables, under the auspice of a man in a white coat and pleasant bedside manner? Moreover, whether voluntary or compulsory, what is the standard of acceptance? How does it change? How are those changes rationalized? In a system where such a thing is legal, a cancer patient in constant agony and less than three months to live anyway is a sort of obvious scenario. But what about less obvious things? What about a teenager who has had his heart broken and is in the throes of anguished, debilitating depression? This will pass, of course - the loss of a first love always does - but the teenager doesn't know that. What if "depression" becomes a legal cause for "assisted suicide?"
The whole thing is too fraught with peril. If a man wishes to kill himself, then he may do so. No law will ever change that. There are means aplenty - some messy, some clean, some fast, some slow, some easy, some hard, but means nonetheless.
I oppose the death penalty even when entirely justified because the state and judicial systems have proven themselves unreliable arbiters of truth, justice or honesty. I oppose the death penalty not for moral reasons - I firmly believe that there *are* killing offenses - but because I don't trust those who carry it out. And I don't want to be a party to wrongful homicide performed in my name by men I don't trust. Euthanasia regimes have the same problems with even less accountability and even greater dishonesty and even more perverted incentives. Even if there is a moral argument to made for "mercy killing" - and I think there probably is - it is not a problem that the state or a medical system is disposed toward solving fairly if at all.
The expediency of the day will rule such a system, and the corpses will pile up as a result. All you need to do is look back 6-8 weeks at the executive orders that sent thousands of "worthless" old people to their deaths in nursing homes to see how this will play out at first. It only gets worse from there.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (hYcqw)
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I never cease to be amazed by the arrogance of Cuomo, and the sad complicity of his murderous supporters.
Posted by: Fritz at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (95j/9)
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Interesting local story, survey found out that very few black children got any education after the schools were closed
===
To be fair, they were not getting one while the schools were open.
AND where is my property tax refund?
===
To be fair, they were not getting one while the schools were open.
AND where is my property tax refund?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (pw+jk)
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A 20 year old girl or boy is old enough to use precautions or face the consequences....which contrary to today's youth opinion was not ruinous.
I graduated from HS in 1975. I knew several girls who "fucked around", "got knocked up" and survived to become responsible professionals. Most put up the child for adoption, 2 married the father and one of these marriages survives to this day. The one who got divorced became a physician, as is the child. Some ruination.
Today it is even easier to survive the ruinous consequences of accepting your responsibility without killing your son or daughter. Yep, it might be embarrassing for a while, but a lot of things are. It's up to you to not become a lazy drug addict and to keep your life together after a detour.
I graduated from HS in 1975. I knew several girls who "fucked around", "got knocked up" and survived to become responsible professionals. Most put up the child for adoption, 2 married the father and one of these marriages survives to this day. The one who got divorced became a physician, as is the child. Some ruination.
Today it is even easier to survive the ruinous consequences of accepting your responsibility without killing your son or daughter. Yep, it might be embarrassing for a while, but a lot of things are. It's up to you to not become a lazy drug addict and to keep your life together after a detour.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (ONvIw)
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Agreed. Just show her the ultrasound.
Even better, I've seen several videos of babies in the womb reacting to stimuli, like an ultrasound probe.
Those videos would be something to start flooding the socialist media zone with. Let technology show that the pre-born aren't just clumps of cells, but are people waiting for their chance to live.
Even better, I've seen several videos of babies in the womb reacting to stimuli, like an ultrasound probe.
Those videos would be something to start flooding the socialist media zone with. Let technology show that the pre-born aren't just clumps of cells, but are people waiting for their chance to live.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (HaL55)
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>>Government money for homeschooling?
That wasn't the focus of today's decision but it certainly opens the door to more choice.
That wasn't the focus of today's decision but it certainly opens the door to more choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:25 AM (ZS9TG)
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hiya
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:25 AM (arJlL)
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Is it Anna Puma' birthday ?
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:25 AM (arJlL)
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (E+fVR)
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104 Is it Anna Puma' birthday ?
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:25 AM (arJlL)
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Well, at least we know it's J.J.'s.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:25 AM (arJlL)
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Well, at least we know it's J.J.'s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
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41 31 >>That's the best description of what's just taken place that I've seen yet.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)
Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (ifmtJ)
Not really - it applies to special circumstances that AKAIK, only apply inside Montana at the current time.
in 2015, Montana enacted a special tax credit for individuals who donate money to provide scholarship money for private schools. All private schools were elated, but the program was sued and declared unconstitutional by the Montana Supreme Court since it also provided funding for some Religious Schools. Supreme Court simply ruled that you can't discriminate between private secular schools and private religious schools when it comes to government programs, or tax credits.
BUT legislatures can still easily discriminate against ALL private schools, which they most certainly will do. So, in my view this decision won us very little.
Could not disagree more. This is a very big deal.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:11 AM (ZLI7S)
Doesn't it boil down to: you can have your religious school but your can't follow your religion's teaching about sex and gender?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:13 AM (ifmtJ)
Not really - it applies to special circumstances that AKAIK, only apply inside Montana at the current time.
in 2015, Montana enacted a special tax credit for individuals who donate money to provide scholarship money for private schools. All private schools were elated, but the program was sued and declared unconstitutional by the Montana Supreme Court since it also provided funding for some Religious Schools. Supreme Court simply ruled that you can't discriminate between private secular schools and private religious schools when it comes to government programs, or tax credits.
BUT legislatures can still easily discriminate against ALL private schools, which they most certainly will do. So, in my view this decision won us very little.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (Kpl3J)
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Nope
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (E+fVR)
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105 A pickle is a meat.
Meatcake is real... the horror
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (E+fVR)
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Meatpies. Try a little priest.
Meatcake is real... the horror
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (E+fVR)
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Meatpies. Try a little priest.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
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I tell my kids that they have agency to act against base impulses, and fucking around is to abuse a very serious act of intimacy that will later have no meaning for them.
If that makes me a "prude," whatever. You do you.
If that makes me a "prude," whatever. You do you.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (Ve//x)
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>>91
Frankly, if she's 19 and "fucking around" then her life is already ruined, she just hasn't found out yet.
Status of Zod's life at age 19: Already ruined.
>>91
Frankly, if she's 19 and "fucking around" then her life is already ruined, she just hasn't found out yet.
Status of Zod's life at age 19: Already ruined.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (ZS9TG)
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This is one of those topics that - if everyone gets their say, and they won't - you'll quickly discover that Leftists ain't the only faction not too far away from splintering into a million pieces.
Posted by: The Center Does Not Hold at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (DKgtk)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)
114
You want to change peoples minds but call them sluts
and murderers. That wont ever work and will only make your position
that much more alien to the be try people you are trying to reach.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:22 AM (SjAGT)
I never called anyone a slut. So stop putting words into my mouth.
Abortion is the killing of an innocent human being. How would you like me to sugar-coat that?
When I talk about abortion I am not fire and brimstone, but I am uncompromising in my stance that it is the killing of a human being.
and murderers. That wont ever work and will only make your position
that much more alien to the be try people you are trying to reach.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:22 AM (SjAGT)
I never called anyone a slut. So stop putting words into my mouth.
Abortion is the killing of an innocent human being. How would you like me to sugar-coat that?
When I talk about abortion I am not fire and brimstone, but I am uncompromising in my stance that it is the killing of a human being.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (dLLD6)
115
I look at Cuomo and I see a deranged, insane crazy person. He geniuinely scares me and I don't scare easily.
And yet they love the shit out of him in NY.
I do not get it.
And yet they love the shit out of him in NY.
I do not get it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (FtO5h)
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Aborting babies with dementia is just one way to skin an omelette.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (8B6Ng)
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As for mental health euthanasia. Most depressed people survive their ordeal, especially when it's situational. Again, you are angry, upset, grieving, or embarrassed for a while, but you adjust. Never make permanent decisions based on shifting emotions over a temporary situation.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
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Ain't no one size fits all, coach.
My father would not have qualified for assisted suicide because he
was not conscious or self-aware. He could have benefited mightily from a
dose of the heavy tranq, but instead we had to wait for his feeding
tube to clog and choose not to replace it.
So, yeah, he lay in bed for over a year and was then allowed to starve to death.
Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM
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Same thing with my cousin when the chemo stopped working for his stomach cancer.
They even gave him a timeline on when he would go into a coma and how many months he would live after that.
Nasty extremely painful way to go that would have been much better with just a little OD on the morphine drip.
My father would not have qualified for assisted suicide because he
was not conscious or self-aware. He could have benefited mightily from a
dose of the heavy tranq, but instead we had to wait for his feeding
tube to clog and choose not to replace it.
So, yeah, he lay in bed for over a year and was then allowed to starve to death.
Life and dignity do not always go hand in hand.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:16 AM
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Same thing with my cousin when the chemo stopped working for his stomach cancer.
They even gave him a timeline on when he would go into a coma and how many months he would live after that.
Nasty extremely painful way to go that would have been much better with just a little OD on the morphine drip.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at June 30, 2020 11:28 AM (JUOKG)
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117 As for mental health euthanasia. Most depressed people survive their ordeal, especially when it's situational. Again, you are angry, upset, grieving, or embarrassed for a while, but you adjust. Never make permanent decisions based on shifting emotions over a temporary situation.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
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"I'll just fake my own death."
-Juliet
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (ONvIw)
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"I'll just fake my own death."
-Juliet
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:28 AM (LvTSG)
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I do not get it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (FtO5h)
A lot of NYers share his derangement.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (FtO5h)
A lot of NYers share his derangement.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:28 AM (ONvIw)
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To be fair, they were not getting one while the schools were open.
AND where is my property tax refund?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (pw+jk)
that's supposed to be protection money that keeps the yutes from throwing molotov cocktails through your windows.
AND where is my property tax refund?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (pw+jk)
that's supposed to be protection money that keeps the yutes from throwing molotov cocktails through your windows.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:28 AM (Kpl3J)
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>>116
Aborting babies with dementia is just one way to skin an omelette. Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (8B6Ng)
When all you have is a hammer, every baby looks like a sleeping dog.
Aborting babies with dementia is just one way to skin an omelette. Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:27 AM (8B6Ng)
When all you have is a hammer, every baby looks like a sleeping dog.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:28 AM (ZS9TG)
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100
Yep that is the way to do it. Even without commentary just links with titles like check outs this cool video of a baby inside the womb. That is how you move opinion not by yelling slut and murderer at people.
Yep that is the way to do it. Even without commentary just links with titles like check outs this cool video of a baby inside the womb. That is how you move opinion not by yelling slut and murderer at people.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:28 AM (SjAGT)
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Excellent rant, CBD
Posted by: WeBoned! at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (8k7U7)
125
I look at Cuomo and I see a deranged, insane crazy person. He geniuinely scares me and I don't scare easily.
And yet they love the shit out of him in NY.
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Fredo The Elder doesn't scare me that much but your second sentiment does scare the shit out of me.
And yet they love the shit out of him in NY.
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Fredo The Elder doesn't scare me that much but your second sentiment does scare the shit out of me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (pw+jk)
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I'm going to memorize the first three paragraphs. Succinct and powerful.
Posted by: CliffDweller at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (QY/CS)
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Nasty extremely painful way to go that would have been much better with just a little OD on the morphine drip.
Yup.
Yup.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (gd9RK)
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I like dogs more than babies. But dogs don't grow up to be humans. So you have to put up with babies.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (ifmtJ)
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You can't just go around killing people.
Posted by: grammie winger at June 30, 2020 11:21 AM (lwiT4)
The south side of Chicago would disagree
Posted by: grammie winger at June 30, 2020 11:21 AM (lwiT4)
The south side of Chicago would disagree
Posted by: TheQuietMan at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (y2dwj)
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I really don't understand why Cuomo isn't celebrating his achievement.
He managed to do exactly what Democrats are for: Killing off the innocent and infirm.
It's almost like Cuomo knows it's a bridge to far and if he took credit he might actually have to face some consequences.
Sort of like the pro-aborts aren't willing to discuss the 50 million abortions that have taken place since Roe v Wade.
Funny how that works, isn't it?
He managed to do exactly what Democrats are for: Killing off the innocent and infirm.
It's almost like Cuomo knows it's a bridge to far and if he took credit he might actually have to face some consequences.
Sort of like the pro-aborts aren't willing to discuss the 50 million abortions that have taken place since Roe v Wade.
Funny how that works, isn't it?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (WEBkv)
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"No, not really. It's more about not allowing the teacher's union and the Democrats, but I repeat myself, from discriminating about school choice funding for religions schools. This will further weaken the teacher's union iron grip on the education of kids and give parents more freedom."
Except the corollary to that argument is they are killing religious freedom in other ways and thereby diminishing religious education. That's exactly what Roberts did this term.
It's not about people's right to an religious education or practice. It's about despots like Roberts dictating to you what an individual can, and cannot practice. He's not attempting to get to equality. He's essentially trying to fix the societal "rule" and mores to his personal liking.
There has been a precipitous decline in areas such as Catholic education because authoritarian buffoons like Roberts are continually ensuring our society is more sacrilegious, Constitution and individual rights be damned.
SCOTUS has become a big part of the problem. There is no balance anymore. They've become a big part of the problem and putting their imprimatur on a specific political agenda is their aim.
Except the corollary to that argument is they are killing religious freedom in other ways and thereby diminishing religious education. That's exactly what Roberts did this term.
It's not about people's right to an religious education or practice. It's about despots like Roberts dictating to you what an individual can, and cannot practice. He's not attempting to get to equality. He's essentially trying to fix the societal "rule" and mores to his personal liking.
There has been a precipitous decline in areas such as Catholic education because authoritarian buffoons like Roberts are continually ensuring our society is more sacrilegious, Constitution and individual rights be damned.
SCOTUS has become a big part of the problem. There is no balance anymore. They've become a big part of the problem and putting their imprimatur on a specific political agenda is their aim.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:30 AM (VpIIl)
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:30 AM (SjAGT)
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That is how you move opinion not by yelling slut and murderer at people.
Sure, I get that and it can be effective. But... what would you do if someone was going to slit your daughter's throat, show them a video of how pretty she was in 5th grade, or stop him from murdering a child?
This isn't just a difference of opinions here. This is not whether you like pineapples on pizza or not. Its helpless, innocent baby lives.
Sure, I get that and it can be effective. But... what would you do if someone was going to slit your daughter's throat, show them a video of how pretty she was in 5th grade, or stop him from murdering a child?
This isn't just a difference of opinions here. This is not whether you like pineapples on pizza or not. Its helpless, innocent baby lives.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:30 AM (KZzsI)
134
It required the cooperation of +/- 19 year old girls. Are all of their lives ruined?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (gd9RK)
Of course not. And recognition of human nature is implicit in what I wrote. Is promiscuity a good thing? For most people...probably not. But I would happily trade more promiscuity for fewer abortions.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at June 30, 2020 11:23 AM (gd9RK)
Of course not. And recognition of human nature is implicit in what I wrote. Is promiscuity a good thing? For most people...probably not. But I would happily trade more promiscuity for fewer abortions.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:30 AM (dLLD6)
135
people....people who need people...are the luckiest people in the world?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:30 AM (ifmtJ)
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Still one of my favorite essays I have ever read:
Ronald Reagan: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation
https://bit.ly/2YMxhV0
Ronald Reagan: Abortion and the Conscience of a Nation
https://bit.ly/2YMxhV0
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 11:30 AM (Do5/p)
137
The human fetus is:
Genetically human.
Biologically alive.
Physically separated (connected only by umbilical) and genetically distinct from the mother.
Without medical interference, the vast majority of pregnancies will result in the delivery of a healthy baby.
It cannot be anything other than a developing human life by any form of logic.
Where do people get off assuming that they have a right to intervene in - and prevent! - the healthy development of another human being?
It doesn't add up, and promoting the idea that such a right exists is a gateway to totalitarianism of the most Mengele-esque sort.
Genetically human.
Biologically alive.
Physically separated (connected only by umbilical) and genetically distinct from the mother.
Without medical interference, the vast majority of pregnancies will result in the delivery of a healthy baby.
It cannot be anything other than a developing human life by any form of logic.
Where do people get off assuming that they have a right to intervene in - and prevent! - the healthy development of another human being?
It doesn't add up, and promoting the idea that such a right exists is a gateway to totalitarianism of the most Mengele-esque sort.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (J+mig)
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And I don't think most girls want to "fuck around". Most of them are looking for love divine, and then find out that it wasn't when they get pregnant.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)
139
I promised my father to not let him languish, if it comes to that.
To some - that will make me a criminal. But it will be done if necessary.
To some - that will make me a criminal. But it will be done if necessary.
Posted by: The Center Does Not Hold at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (DKgtk)
140
If you live in a place where abortion is commonplace, euthanasia is accepted practice, health care is state administered, you are under constant surveillance in all things in all ways, and law enforcement can use whatever means it sees fit to deal with the slightest infractions...what, exactly, is the difference between that and a concentration camp, beyond a slight matter of comfort and degree?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (OUMaO)
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there s a documentary on Amazon about China's one child policy and I thnk it's a good one to show pro abortion ppl coz it's not very fire and brimstone
o re travelogue / revisiting the home country
forgot the title
am surprised it was on Amazon actually
o re travelogue / revisiting the home country
forgot the title
am surprised it was on Amazon actually
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (WwTwF)
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Willowed.
Want to know why the name got changed from CHAZ to CHOP? Because their
lawyers advised them that by setting up an autonomous zone separate from
the United States, the people involved lost their U.S. Citizenship, and
became unlawful combatants in the war against terror. OOOOOOOPS.
They are hoping to slip that past everyone - so that no one notices. Sorry, we all just noticed.
Want to know why the name got changed from CHAZ to CHOP? Because their
lawyers advised them that by setting up an autonomous zone separate from
the United States, the people involved lost their U.S. Citizenship, and
became unlawful combatants in the war against terror. OOOOOOOPS.
They are hoping to slip that past everyone - so that no one notices. Sorry, we all just noticed.
Posted by: An Observation at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (SlJdk)
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101 >>Government money for homeschooling?
That wasn't the focus of today's decision but it certainly opens the door to more choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
Throwing government money to encorage homeschooling allowing for one parent to get paid staying home with the kids and while the other to work would be glorious for the nuclear family and birthrates.
One can dream, Jackstraw.
That wasn't the focus of today's decision but it certainly opens the door to more choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
Throwing government money to encorage homeschooling allowing for one parent to get paid staying home with the kids and while the other to work would be glorious for the nuclear family and birthrates.
One can dream, Jackstraw.
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (LpjIG)
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>>Today it is even easier to survive the ruinous consequences of accepting your responsibility without killing your son or daughter. Yep, it might be embarrassing for a while, but a lot of things are. It's up to you to not become a lazy drug addict and to keep your life together after a detour.
The problem with adoption nowadays is that activists push for open adoption records. This dissuades some women from going that route because they don't want the kid to drop into their life some time down the road.
Having gone through the journey of my hubby finding his birth parents (and in speaking with others who did this w/mixed success). the process can be scary for everyone involved. It is opening Pandora's box. Hubby and the other adoptees speculate this push for open adoption records is intentionally done to push people into aborting instead of adopting.
The problem with adoption nowadays is that activists push for open adoption records. This dissuades some women from going that route because they don't want the kid to drop into their life some time down the road.
Having gone through the journey of my hubby finding his birth parents (and in speaking with others who did this w/mixed success). the process can be scary for everyone involved. It is opening Pandora's box. Hubby and the other adoptees speculate this push for open adoption records is intentionally done to push people into aborting instead of adopting.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (bDqIh)
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I look at Cuomo and I see a deranged, insane crazy person. He geniuinely scares me and I don't scare easily.
And yet they love the shit out of him in NY.
I do not get it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
The fucking nipple bar did it for me.
That's cool on an 18 yr old chick.
Not even kinky on Fredo the Older. Simply sick. Grow TF up.
And yet they love the shit out of him in NY.
I do not get it.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
The fucking nipple bar did it for me.
That's cool on an 18 yr old chick.
Not even kinky on Fredo the Older. Simply sick. Grow TF up.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (zfBZT)
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I wish someone would ask the good, practicing Catholic Nancy Pelosi how she is able to square her adamant support of abortion with the dictates of the Church.
I suppose that, in the end, there is one voice who will ask her- and an answer will be required.
I suppose that, in the end, there is one voice who will ask her- and an answer will be required.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (xyImL)
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You want to change peoples minds but call them sluts and murderers.
I called no one a slut. I pointed out that, generally speaking, a women who has a large number of sexual partners ends up in a worse place than one who does not. Choices, consequences.
I further called no one a murderer although the name fits. I suggested pointing out that the reasoning they use to rid themselves of a baby could be used by someone else to get rid of them.
Lastly, the only people I'm actively trying to convince of anything are my own children. I lack the patience for any others.
I called no one a slut. I pointed out that, generally speaking, a women who has a large number of sexual partners ends up in a worse place than one who does not. Choices, consequences.
I further called no one a murderer although the name fits. I suggested pointing out that the reasoning they use to rid themselves of a baby could be used by someone else to get rid of them.
Lastly, the only people I'm actively trying to convince of anything are my own children. I lack the patience for any others.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (eFYNk)
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16 Oh and abortion...sure, ok, we can talk about that.
Abortion is killing. I support killing when it's justified. I don't support killing out of convenience.
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One would think that John Roberts, who couldn't have kids of his own and who apparently went to a lot of trouble to adopt kids, would have a more protective attitude towards babies than he does. It would be interesting to know his true feelings about abortion. Does he think the babies will be better off not being born to mothers who don't want them? Or is he part of the RBG lefty cabal, who want to make sure that they keep down the numbers of the less desirable (from their point of view) groups in our population?
Abortion is killing. I support killing when it's justified. I don't support killing out of convenience.
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One would think that John Roberts, who couldn't have kids of his own and who apparently went to a lot of trouble to adopt kids, would have a more protective attitude towards babies than he does. It would be interesting to know his true feelings about abortion. Does he think the babies will be better off not being born to mothers who don't want them? Or is he part of the RBG lefty cabal, who want to make sure that they keep down the numbers of the less desirable (from their point of view) groups in our population?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (k4dH2)
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101 >>Government money for homeschooling?
That wasn't the focus of today's decision but it certainly opens the door to more choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
It also tells liberals that if they don't want to allow religious schooling, they need to ban ALL choice. This ruling leaves them all the power they need to do that.
That wasn't the focus of today's decision but it certainly opens the door to more choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:24 AM (ZLI7S)
It also tells liberals that if they don't want to allow religious schooling, they need to ban ALL choice. This ruling leaves them all the power they need to do that.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (Kpl3J)
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Anyone that is honest knows that Planned Parenthood is just a front to funnel tax dollars to democrat campaigns.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (xfb67)
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133
Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning? The answer is no. ISo does it not then stand to reason that a change of approach is needed?
Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning? The answer is no. ISo does it not then stand to reason that a change of approach is needed?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (SjAGT)
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I saw Slut Thing open for Lords of Acid at Manchester in '94.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (ifmtJ)
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Appearently fauci is advocating for closed schools next year.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1CTCADjoVw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1CTCADjoVw
Posted by: always ahead of the curve at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (LpjIG)
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Entertainment
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From the Bee.
Merciful God Vows To End Humanity Before 'The Princess Bride' Can Be Remade
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From the Bee.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (+y/Ru)
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Fredo The Elder doesn't scare me that much but your second sentiment does scare the shit out of me.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (pw+jk)
It's the way he sits there so CASUALLY dropping his complete, utter BS about "love" and gaslighting about other governors alleged failures after is nursering home fiasco...and all that...with that hateful mobster face on...when he's so obviously, obviously full of shit. And they lap it up. I have family and friends and most importantly co-workers in NY I can't even speak to anymore. They're all head over heels for Fredo.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:29 AM (pw+jk)
It's the way he sits there so CASUALLY dropping his complete, utter BS about "love" and gaslighting about other governors alleged failures after is nursering home fiasco...and all that...with that hateful mobster face on...when he's so obviously, obviously full of shit. And they lap it up. I have family and friends and most importantly co-workers in NY I can't even speak to anymore. They're all head over heels for Fredo.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (FtO5h)
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I suppose that, in the end, there is one voice who will ask her- and an answer will be required.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (xyImL)
And she WILL be kneeling to HIM.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (xyImL)
And she WILL be kneeling to HIM.
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes, the Housekeeper at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (PiwSw)
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I saw a pretty great movie last night:
"The Square" (2107) by Ruben Ostlund
It's a rather funny comedy of manners concerning Our Betters in Swedish society, where all the "Elite" are members of the Radical Chic.
The main character is the director of a Modern Art Museum, who experiences an unusual kind of robbery of his cell phone, wallet, and cuff links.
As a result, he becomes a bit unhinged and wants to find a way to get all of his stuff back. He neglects his job. Most importantly, he neglects the opening of a new art piece called "The Square".
Plus, his solution for getting his possessions back sets up even more problems for him and others in a widening series of interlocking reactions.
There is some rather pointed satire of the Modern Art scene. And of all these well-off, self-satisfied people but essentially useless people with their useless jobs and their constantly stated but never acted upon "personal (marxist) morality", waltzing by the homeless every day.
And you think you're in typical, same old boring, European, marxist social comedy territory, but you're not.
Ostlund has something much more interesting on his mind.
The story is told in a series of vignettes, which expose the hypocrisy and the distance between the director's words and beliefs and his actions. The comedy is sometimes surprising and often in the realm of "cringe comedy" as the main character slowly comes to the realization of what he should do.
His solution, Ostlund's solution, the solution for every one of us living in "The Square" (symbolism, baby!) is a very American one. One, which would be recognized by generations of Americans before we were educated out of the realm of common sense by marxism.
"The Square", as an art exhibit, is simply a lit square on the ground with the following sign:
"The Square is a sanctuary of trust and caring. Within it we all share equal rights and obligations."
Obviously, "The Square" is society.
So, there are rights we should expect in society but there are also obligations on everyone, even the homeless.
Ostlund clearly believes, as shown by the vignettes, that there must also be freedom of both action and freedom of speech. And also the freedom afforded by forgiveness both for yourself and others, If you do wrong, try to correct it. then move on.
But, here's the thing.
"The Square", which must've seemed very good in 2017, in 2020, at least for Americans, seems near great and prescient as hell.
Practically, everything we're experiencing from the Democrats/Left/Our Betters can be seen in a gentle, comedic, allegorical form in this movie.
Just watch the astonishing Fund Raising Dinner scene with Performance Art for entertainment, and tell me that doesn't represent a brilliant distillation of the Rise of Antifa/BLM and Our Betters reaction to it.
I don't want to over sell "The Square" but in pretty much every way Ostlund frustrates all the marxist expectations of his marxist viewers and here's the important part-
does it with finesse, wit, cleverness and entertains us at the same time.
So, as a warning, this is a European movie which means the pace is slower, though I was never bored, and there are some subtitles even though large p-atches are spoken in English. This is a gentle though sharp comedy, so no fart jokes.
If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
I saw a pretty great movie last night:
"The Square" (2107) by Ruben Ostlund
It's a rather funny comedy of manners concerning Our Betters in Swedish society, where all the "Elite" are members of the Radical Chic.
The main character is the director of a Modern Art Museum, who experiences an unusual kind of robbery of his cell phone, wallet, and cuff links.
As a result, he becomes a bit unhinged and wants to find a way to get all of his stuff back. He neglects his job. Most importantly, he neglects the opening of a new art piece called "The Square".
Plus, his solution for getting his possessions back sets up even more problems for him and others in a widening series of interlocking reactions.
There is some rather pointed satire of the Modern Art scene. And of all these well-off, self-satisfied people but essentially useless people with their useless jobs and their constantly stated but never acted upon "personal (marxist) morality", waltzing by the homeless every day.
And you think you're in typical, same old boring, European, marxist social comedy territory, but you're not.
Ostlund has something much more interesting on his mind.
The story is told in a series of vignettes, which expose the hypocrisy and the distance between the director's words and beliefs and his actions. The comedy is sometimes surprising and often in the realm of "cringe comedy" as the main character slowly comes to the realization of what he should do.
His solution, Ostlund's solution, the solution for every one of us living in "The Square" (symbolism, baby!) is a very American one. One, which would be recognized by generations of Americans before we were educated out of the realm of common sense by marxism.
"The Square", as an art exhibit, is simply a lit square on the ground with the following sign:
"The Square is a sanctuary of trust and caring. Within it we all share equal rights and obligations."
Obviously, "The Square" is society.
So, there are rights we should expect in society but there are also obligations on everyone, even the homeless.
Ostlund clearly believes, as shown by the vignettes, that there must also be freedom of both action and freedom of speech. And also the freedom afforded by forgiveness both for yourself and others, If you do wrong, try to correct it. then move on.
But, here's the thing.
"The Square", which must've seemed very good in 2017, in 2020, at least for Americans, seems near great and prescient as hell.
Practically, everything we're experiencing from the Democrats/Left/Our Betters can be seen in a gentle, comedic, allegorical form in this movie.
Just watch the astonishing Fund Raising Dinner scene with Performance Art for entertainment, and tell me that doesn't represent a brilliant distillation of the Rise of Antifa/BLM and Our Betters reaction to it.
I don't want to over sell "The Square" but in pretty much every way Ostlund frustrates all the marxist expectations of his marxist viewers and here's the important part-
does it with finesse, wit, cleverness and entertains us at the same time.
So, as a warning, this is a European movie which means the pace is slower, though I was never bored, and there are some subtitles even though large p-atches are spoken in English. This is a gentle though sharp comedy, so no fart jokes.
If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (dLPcm)
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (arJlL)
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Fauci is just a chattering air-head. He needs to stay away from the press.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (xfb67)
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Ugh....they're throwing Fauci in front of congress again. Someone please point out that this guy fucked up the AIDS treatment so bad, we're STILL having people die from it.
He's evil. Bill Gates is evil. Please stop listening to them.
He's evil. Bill Gates is evil. Please stop listening to them.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (Zz0t1)
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heh...does Slut Thing make everything groovy?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (FtO5h)
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Thou shall not kill does not have a convenience or a "oh, how embarrassing" clause.
Posted by: CN at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (ONvIw)
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Because it is merely the first steps on the way to unrestricted state control of every aspect of our lives and deaths. it only becomes consistent and logical when control over the death of humans is taken from God and ceded to the state.
Gerhard Kretschmar (20 Feb 1939 - 25 Jul 1939) was not available to comment
Gerhard Kretschmar (20 Feb 1939 - 25 Jul 1939) was not available to comment
Posted by: Fox2! at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (JFgsl)
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Nope
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (E+fVR)
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Well, since I'll probably miss it, happy birthday anyway.
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:26 AM (E+fVR)
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Well, since I'll probably miss it, happy birthday anyway.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (hYcqw)
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Most of them are looking for love divine, and then find out that it wasn't when they get pregnant.
I think that used to be true, but these days I'm not so sure.
I think that used to be true, but these days I'm not so sure.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (KZzsI)
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161 heh...does Slut Thing make everything groovy?
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (FtO5h)
Well Slut Thing and MDMA sure does
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (FtO5h)
Well Slut Thing and MDMA sure does
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (ifmtJ)
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McKinney, Tx mayor signs executive order to force businesses to require masks.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
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I further called no one a murderer although the name fits. I suggested pointing out that the reasoning they use to rid themselves of a baby could be used by someone else to get rid of them.
Lastly, the only people I'm actively trying to convince of anything are my own children. I lack the patience for any others.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (eFYNk)
I don't think the young women having abortions are murderers, they are also the victims of a wicked setup. It is the Abortion Mills and the industry that pushes it, simply because it's so profitable and gives them massive opportunities for graft, that's who the murderers are.
Lastly, the only people I'm actively trying to convince of anything are my own children. I lack the patience for any others.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:31 AM (eFYNk)
I don't think the young women having abortions are murderers, they are also the victims of a wicked setup. It is the Abortion Mills and the industry that pushes it, simply because it's so profitable and gives them massive opportunities for graft, that's who the murderers are.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:34 AM (Kpl3J)
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>>> I saw Slut Thing open for Lords of Acid at Manchester in '94.
I'd appreciate if everyone stopped slut shaming. Sluts makes the world go 'round, dammit!
I'd appreciate if everyone stopped slut shaming. Sluts makes the world go 'round, dammit!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (bkUtD)
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In my stupid youth, I thought it was up to the woman to deal with the situation. Several of my college friends (at a Christian college) had abortions, and they were broken afterwards.
In grad school, a guy in one of my classes asked me what my reaction would be if I had a child and the man who fathered it took it and killed it. Before I could respond, he said, "Think about the men who fathered these children and didn't get a chance to raise them. Sure, there were men who pushed killing a baby because they didn't want to pay, but more men than you think are broken hearted at the lost children."
When my boss told me that I could either have an abortion or keep my job at State, I knew I was done with both abortion, and that godless entity.
In grad school, a guy in one of my classes asked me what my reaction would be if I had a child and the man who fathered it took it and killed it. Before I could respond, he said, "Think about the men who fathered these children and didn't get a chance to raise them. Sure, there were men who pushed killing a baby because they didn't want to pay, but more men than you think are broken hearted at the lost children."
When my boss told me that I could either have an abortion or keep my job at State, I knew I was done with both abortion, and that godless entity.
Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (/H+aK)
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>>BUT legislatures can still easily discriminate against ALL private schools, which they most certainly will do. So, in my view this decision won us very little.
>Roughly three dozen states have similar no aid provisions in their constitutions. Courts in some states have relied on those provisions to strike down religious-school funding.
https://tinyurl.com/y8w6dmlq
This case was fairly narrow along religious lines but still obviously big when 3 dozen states are already discriminating on this basis. We've only 4 dozen or so states and the majority of alternative schools ARE religious schools.
Again, one of the biggest issues Trump is running on for re-election is school choice and he has been really hammering this in minority communities which lover school choice.
>Roughly three dozen states have similar no aid provisions in their constitutions. Courts in some states have relied on those provisions to strike down religious-school funding.
https://tinyurl.com/y8w6dmlq
This case was fairly narrow along religious lines but still obviously big when 3 dozen states are already discriminating on this basis. We've only 4 dozen or so states and the majority of alternative schools ARE religious schools.
Again, one of the biggest issues Trump is running on for re-election is school choice and he has been really hammering this in minority communities which lover school choice.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (ZLI7S)
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Either you follow the CDC guidelines, your YOU JEOPARDIZE THE HEALTH OF THE COMMUNITY!!!!!
#WASTF
#WASTF
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (Zz0t1)
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It also tells liberals that if they don't want to allow religious schooling, they need to ban ALL choice. This ruling leaves them all the power they need to do that.
Posted by: Tom Servo
Well, the Leftists can't stop religious schooling. But they can stop giving out scholarships to all private schools. Won't go over well with their constituents, though.
Some Leftist dummies after this ruling, "We're a theocracy now!!!1!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo
Well, the Leftists can't stop religious schooling. But they can stop giving out scholarships to all private schools. Won't go over well with their constituents, though.
Some Leftist dummies after this ruling, "We're a theocracy now!!!1!!"
Posted by: lizabth at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (L3Rsz)
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Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning? The answer is no. ISo does it not then stand to reason that a change of approach is needed?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (SjAGT)
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LA just had abortion restrictions shot down by SCOTUS.
Tell us how a change in approach would solve the problem of SCOTUS?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (SjAGT)
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LA just had abortion restrictions shot down by SCOTUS.
Tell us how a change in approach would solve the problem of SCOTUS?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (WEBkv)
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Are we a Smart Prude Blog now? Did you want to get laid at 19? I sure did.
It required the cooperation of +/- 19 year old girls. Are all of their lives ruined?
Perhaps I shouldn't make a distinction between women who have sex with their boyfriend and women who fuck around. Some studies now have a good percentage of women coming out of college having had triple digit sexual partners.
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
It required the cooperation of +/- 19 year old girls. Are all of their lives ruined?
Perhaps I shouldn't make a distinction between women who have sex with their boyfriend and women who fuck around. Some studies now have a good percentage of women coming out of college having had triple digit sexual partners.
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (eFYNk)
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When I talk about abortion I am not fire and brimstone, but I am uncompromising in my stance that it is the killing of a human being.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
What about the killing of innocent comments ?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
What about the killing of innocent comments ?
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)
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I don't want to over sell "The Square" but in pretty much every way Ostlund frustrates all the marxist expectations of his marxist viewers and here's the important part-
does it with finesse, wit, cleverness and entertains us at the same time.
So, as a warning, this is a European movie which means the pace is slower, though I was never bored, and there are some subtitles even though large p-atches are spoken in English. This is a gentle though sharp comedy, so no fart jokes.
If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (dLPcm)
Thankee
does it with finesse, wit, cleverness and entertains us at the same time.
So, as a warning, this is a European movie which means the pace is slower, though I was never bored, and there are some subtitles even though large p-atches are spoken in English. This is a gentle though sharp comedy, so no fart jokes.
If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (dLPcm)
Thankee
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:36 AM (ifmtJ)
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I'd appreciate if everyone stopped slut shaming. Sluts makes the world go 'round, dammit!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (bkUtD)
The difference between a slut and a whore is whores do it for the money. Sluts give it away for free.
I'd appreciate if everyone stopped slut shaming. Sluts makes the world go 'round, dammit!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (bkUtD)
The difference between a slut and a whore is whores do it for the money. Sluts give it away for free.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:36 AM (Zz0t1)
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I'm for post birth abortion for any kid that joins Antifa.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 11:36 AM (xfb67)
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An off-topic comment before 100 is not innocent. It is a guilty, guilty comment and must pay its debt to society.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:36 AM (FtO5h)
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God bless ya, Moki !
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:37 AM (arJlL)
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"Your typical 19 year old wants to fuck around and know if she gets knocked up her life isnt ruined"
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Life ruined. Ruined!!! Punished with a child,eh?
Eh. Maybe just "fucking around" will ruin her life, in and of itself. Maybe---more likely than you think --- killing her baby in the womb will ruin her life.
Maybe choosing to let the baby live will enhance, rather than "ruin," her life, whether she keeps the baby or gives it up for adoption.
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Life ruined. Ruined!!! Punished with a child,eh?
Eh. Maybe just "fucking around" will ruin her life, in and of itself. Maybe---more likely than you think --- killing her baby in the womb will ruin her life.
Maybe choosing to let the baby live will enhance, rather than "ruin," her life, whether she keeps the baby or gives it up for adoption.
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 30, 2020 11:37 AM (M/9m0)
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Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning?
Actually it is, but its facing serious opposition because for the left, abortion is a sacrament, a sacred and protected act. Mostly to hide the evidence of their molestations and rapes, mind you.
But minds have been changed over the decades, culture has shifted away from open support of abortion at all times and ages, and state laws are chipping away at the edges.
Actually it is, but its facing serious opposition because for the left, abortion is a sacrament, a sacred and protected act. Mostly to hide the evidence of their molestations and rapes, mind you.
But minds have been changed over the decades, culture has shifted away from open support of abortion at all times and ages, and state laws are chipping away at the edges.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:37 AM (KZzsI)
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169 >>> I saw Slut Thing open for Lords of Acid at Manchester in '94.
I'd appreciate if everyone stopped slut shaming. Sluts makes the world go 'round, dammit!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (bkUtD)
Where can I find me one of them there sluts?
I'd appreciate if everyone stopped slut shaming. Sluts makes the world go 'round, dammit!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (bkUtD)
Where can I find me one of them there sluts?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:37 AM (NWiLs)
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Again, one of the biggest issues Trump is running on for re-election is school choice and he has been really hammering this in minority communities which lover school choice.
Posted by: JackStraw
Yes! This is a winning issue for Trump. It's the reason I support him! Nothing is more important than getting as many of the nations's children OUT of the gov't propaganda mills whenever possible.
Posted by: JackStraw
Yes! This is a winning issue for Trump. It's the reason I support him! Nothing is more important than getting as many of the nations's children OUT of the gov't propaganda mills whenever possible.
Posted by: lizabth at June 30, 2020 11:37 AM (L3Rsz)
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>>>The difference between a slut and a whore is whores do it for the money. Sluts give it away for free.
Looking at you, Snooki.
Looking at you, Snooki.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:37 AM (bkUtD)
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When my boss told me that I could either have an abortion or keep my job at State, I knew I was done with both abortion, and that godless entity.
Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (/H+aK)
Good on ya, Moki!
Posted by: Moki at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (/H+aK)
Good on ya, Moki!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (NWiLs)
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Some studies now have a good percentage of women coming out of college having had triple digit sexual partners.
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
3 fingered guys? Chainsaw accidents?
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
3 fingered guys? Chainsaw accidents?
Posted by: Bruce at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (vd8XM)
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Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning? The answer is no. ISo does it not then stand to reason that a change of approach is needed?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (SjAGT)
In 1857, after Dred Scott was handed down, was the Anti-Slavery movement winning? Of course your point that a change of approach was needed is well taken, and it came 4 years later.
Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning? The answer is no. ISo does it not then stand to reason that a change of approach is needed?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at June 30, 2020 11:32 AM (SjAGT)
In 1857, after Dred Scott was handed down, was the Anti-Slavery movement winning? Of course your point that a change of approach was needed is well taken, and it came 4 years later.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Kpl3J)
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I am against killing people with dementia.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM
Me too...for the time being.
Posted by: Joe Biden at June 30, 2020 11:19 AM
Me too...for the time being.
Posted by: Dr. Jill Biden at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (2M/TV)
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Holy Shit! Did you all know that we are in a national coin shortage and business my resort to rounding up or down(Ha Ha) in the immediate future and people are being asked to pay by debit, credit or check.
Posted by: Ben Had at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (z8Ih+)
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Appearently fauci is advocating for closed schools next year.....
Switzerland's schools were back to normal weeks ago.
Somebody ask Fauci why he's doing so much worse than those chocolate-herders.
Switzerland's schools were back to normal weeks ago.
Somebody ask Fauci why he's doing so much worse than those chocolate-herders.
Posted by: spindrift at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (BCkIq)
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177 So, as a warning, this is a European movie which means the pace is slower, though I was never bored, and there are some subtitles even though large p-atches are spoken in English. This is a gentle though sharp comedy, so no fart jokes.
If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (dLPcm)
Thankee
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:36 AM (ifmtJ)
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It's pretty good and entertaining, but I felt like it wasn't as interested in one of its central questions of "what is art?"
The titular square excites no one and is mostly ignored, but the main character mindlessly okays a commercial about it that's really outrageous and provocative. People get excited about the commercial instead of the square itself. Which one was art?
If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2020 11:33 AM (dLPcm)
Thankee
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:36 AM (ifmtJ)
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It's pretty good and entertaining, but I felt like it wasn't as interested in one of its central questions of "what is art?"
The titular square excites no one and is mostly ignored, but the main character mindlessly okays a commercial about it that's really outrageous and provocative. People get excited about the commercial instead of the square itself. Which one was art?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (LvTSG)
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I know I'm just the guy who does puns and silly jokes and the like, but there is a reason I use "Endeavor to Persevere" as a tagline. In the movie (Josie Wales) it is used as an ironic punchline. But in real life, it is a mandate.
Continue to try.
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Continue to try.
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
195
Hey, Snooki voted for Trump. We need every vote we can get.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (FtO5h)
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I was reading a blurb on FreeRepublic the other day about how God ordered the Israelites into the land of Canaan and, to use a phrase, "smite them royally."
The commenter was discussing how wholesale slaughter could be leveraged against the Canaanites for their sins. The Canaanites were practicing all sorts of nasty stuff- mostly sex crimes based. God had lost patience with them.
The interesting part, though, was that God had given them time to repent- something on the order of 400 years, if I am recalling the article correctly.
So, it got me to thinking- are we as a nation running out of time, or are we out? Is our side- the side of laws, rationality, religion and morality really eclipsed by the left? Or is it just that the left has a platform and they really aren't a significant majority? I can't tell anymore. I try to tell myself that all the negativity is just yellow press, negativity sells, its what gets news, and its in the minority. I tell myself that the majority of people in our country are like us.
Some of the morons on here are older than me and Ace (26, if I recall) so i know we have been through worse times. But this feels different- like we are on the cusp of something larger and incomprehensible.
Am I wrong?
The commenter was discussing how wholesale slaughter could be leveraged against the Canaanites for their sins. The Canaanites were practicing all sorts of nasty stuff- mostly sex crimes based. God had lost patience with them.
The interesting part, though, was that God had given them time to repent- something on the order of 400 years, if I am recalling the article correctly.
So, it got me to thinking- are we as a nation running out of time, or are we out? Is our side- the side of laws, rationality, religion and morality really eclipsed by the left? Or is it just that the left has a platform and they really aren't a significant majority? I can't tell anymore. I try to tell myself that all the negativity is just yellow press, negativity sells, its what gets news, and its in the minority. I tell myself that the majority of people in our country are like us.
Some of the morons on here are older than me and Ace (26, if I recall) so i know we have been through worse times. But this feels different- like we are on the cusp of something larger and incomprehensible.
Am I wrong?
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (xyImL)
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You don't change people's minds with insults and pejoratives. Keep in mind there are some people you may never convince. People who must learn on their own- or may never learn. On the abortion issue its incredibly effective to help people embrace the precious nature of life and the true miraculous gift of having children. That includes the existential aspects and how today's children will change our world in the future.
This is why they don't want people to embrace religion or demur from politics for common sense decisions you can feel in your soul.
This is why they don't want people to embrace religion or demur from politics for common sense decisions you can feel in your soul.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (VpIIl)
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The human fetus is:
Genetically human.
Biologically alive.
Physically separated (connected only by umbilical) and genetically distinct from the mother.
Without medical interference, the vast majority of pregnancies will result in the delivery of a healthy baby.
It cannot be anything other than a developing human life by any form of logic.
Where do people get off assuming that they have a right to intervene in - and prevent! - the healthy development of another human being?
It doesn't add up, and promoting the idea that such a right exists is a gateway to totalitarianism of the most Mengele-esque sort.
This is what one SCOTUS justice rightly described as "Natural law." AKA "The way life works."
Another pushback would be that when some feminazi says "My body, my choice (trademark thingy)," the reply should be, "What about your child? What would he or she say?"
Another pushback to the "a fetus is only a clump of cells" would be to offer to remove a clump of cells from whomever said that. See how they'd like it.
"Which cells?" you may axe? Does it matter?
Genetically human.
Biologically alive.
Physically separated (connected only by umbilical) and genetically distinct from the mother.
Without medical interference, the vast majority of pregnancies will result in the delivery of a healthy baby.
It cannot be anything other than a developing human life by any form of logic.
Where do people get off assuming that they have a right to intervene in - and prevent! - the healthy development of another human being?
It doesn't add up, and promoting the idea that such a right exists is a gateway to totalitarianism of the most Mengele-esque sort.
This is what one SCOTUS justice rightly described as "Natural law." AKA "The way life works."
Another pushback would be that when some feminazi says "My body, my choice (trademark thingy)," the reply should be, "What about your child? What would he or she say?"
Another pushback to the "a fetus is only a clump of cells" would be to offer to remove a clump of cells from whomever said that. See how they'd like it.
"Which cells?" you may axe? Does it matter?
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (HaL55)
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Did you want to get laid at 19? I sure did.
I want to fly like Superman. I want to sell 1,000 books a day. I want to make a film adaptation of Red Harvest. I want to eat chicken cordon bleu without becoming violently ill. There are a lot of things I want in life. Doesn't mean I need, should, or can do them.
I want to fly like Superman. I want to sell 1,000 books a day. I want to make a film adaptation of Red Harvest. I want to eat chicken cordon bleu without becoming violently ill. There are a lot of things I want in life. Doesn't mean I need, should, or can do them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)
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What about the killing of innocent comments ?
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)
Such as "Ha's" comment at the top? For which I apologized?
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)
Such as "Ha's" comment at the top? For which I apologized?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (dLLD6)
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"Your typical 19 year old wants to fuck around and know if she gets knocked up her life isnt ruined"
This is evil sentiment.
Birth control is readily available. The more you take away the fact that ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, the quicker you're going to destroy society.
Sex is a choice. You don't HAVE to have it. If you do, there are certain results that you're completely aware of should you not take it seriously.
It's a little frightening how many seemingly Godless heathens there are in the world now.
This is evil sentiment.
Birth control is readily available. The more you take away the fact that ACTIONS HAVE CONSEQUENCES, the quicker you're going to destroy society.
Sex is a choice. You don't HAVE to have it. If you do, there are certain results that you're completely aware of should you not take it seriously.
It's a little frightening how many seemingly Godless heathens there are in the world now.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (Zz0t1)
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Fascinating paper discussing method of transmission and spread of influenza.
A narrative that explains the phenomenon is:
1) that there is only a small subset of the population which is infective. But they are very infective.
2) these spreaders are activated primarily when their Vit D levels drop (usually) due to lack of sunlight.
3) when sig portion of pop also has depressed Vit D and hence depressed reistance the disease spreads from the spreaders to non-spreaders.
It's more complicated than that. I do not have all the parts all moving together perfectly. But that's the general idea
It's well worth the read. Especially the crazy part where they discuss the failed attempts in 1918 to pass the flu to healthy people and fail massively. We really are a candy assed terrified generation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/
articles/PMC2279112/
A narrative that explains the phenomenon is:
1) that there is only a small subset of the population which is infective. But they are very infective.
2) these spreaders are activated primarily when their Vit D levels drop (usually) due to lack of sunlight.
3) when sig portion of pop also has depressed Vit D and hence depressed reistance the disease spreads from the spreaders to non-spreaders.
It's more complicated than that. I do not have all the parts all moving together perfectly. But that's the general idea
It's well worth the read. Especially the crazy part where they discuss the failed attempts in 1918 to pass the flu to healthy people and fail massively. We really are a candy assed terrified generation.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/
articles/PMC2279112/
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (gYDp4)
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183 Well ask yourself is the current pro life movement winning?
Actually it is, but its facing serious opposition because for the left, abortion is a sacrament, a sacred and protected act. Mostly to hide the evidence of their molestations and rapes, mind you.
But minds have been changed over the decades, culture has shifted away from open support of abortion at all times and ages, and state laws are chipping away at the edges.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:37
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Planned Parenthood funding of Democratic politicians has an effect as well. Them turning down Title X funding was interesting, and I don't think we've seen the full effects of that decision financially and politically.
Actually it is, but its facing serious opposition because for the left, abortion is a sacrament, a sacred and protected act. Mostly to hide the evidence of their molestations and rapes, mind you.
But minds have been changed over the decades, culture has shifted away from open support of abortion at all times and ages, and state laws are chipping away at the edges.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:37
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Planned Parenthood funding of Democratic politicians has an effect as well. Them turning down Title X funding was interesting, and I don't think we've seen the full effects of that decision financially and politically.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (LvTSG)
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>>When my boss told me that I could either have an abortion or keep my job at State, I knew I was done with both abortion, and that godless entity.
Wow, Moki.
That is so freaking ghoulish *and* illegal what your boss did.
Wow, Moki.
That is so freaking ghoulish *and* illegal what your boss did.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (bDqIh)
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>>>Hey, Snooki voted for Trump. We need every vote we can get.
Okay, looking at you, Amy Schumer.
Okay, looking at you, Amy Schumer.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (bkUtD)
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For those of you following this, that Facebook moderator that I doxxed last week replied to my doxing tweet that I was OMG Stupid because that was her maiden name.
Should I go after her vehicle registration, marriage license, utility bill and credit rating? She lives where Florida Man is crazy adjacent and Florida Man is often a conservative. So this could have ramifications on her if one of them got canceled and blames her.
Lemme know what you think. I won't doxx her on Ace's place, but will on Twatter and/or Parler Gab.
Should I go after her vehicle registration, marriage license, utility bill and credit rating? She lives where Florida Man is crazy adjacent and Florida Man is often a conservative. So this could have ramifications on her if one of them got canceled and blames her.
Lemme know what you think. I won't doxx her on Ace's place, but will on Twatter and/or Parler Gab.
Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (td8Ta)
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I just unfollowed a bunch of artists (painters, mostly) on Instagram who would rather lecture me on, for example, "systemic racism" than display their work.
I dumped the latest one after she ranted that Rich, White, Republican women don't care about imposing restrictions on abortion because, being RICH & WHITE & REPUBLICAN, they will always find I way to get their abortions.
I'll concede that those women would manage to do whatever they want regardless, but I felt like saying, "Girl, those women despise real pro-lifers more than you do, because their men in office have to pretend to be anti-baby-killing in order to stay in office."
I dumped the latest one after she ranted that Rich, White, Republican women don't care about imposing restrictions on abortion because, being RICH & WHITE & REPUBLICAN, they will always find I way to get their abortions.
I'll concede that those women would manage to do whatever they want regardless, but I felt like saying, "Girl, those women despise real pro-lifers more than you do, because their men in office have to pretend to be anti-baby-killing in order to stay in office."
Posted by: Pete in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (2RBkF)
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194 I know I'm just the guy who does puns and silly jokes and the like, but there is a reason I use "Endeavor to Persevere" as a tagline. In the movie (Josie Wales) it is used as an ironic punchline. But in real life, it is a mandate.
Continue to try.
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
Damn. When you put it like that... Shawshank Redemption had the line "get busy living or get busy dying." Similar sentiment, I think. I've been busy dying too long and want to get busy living. It's late in the game, yes. Very late. But there's still time left.
Continue to try.
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
Damn. When you put it like that... Shawshank Redemption had the line "get busy living or get busy dying." Similar sentiment, I think. I've been busy dying too long and want to get busy living. It's late in the game, yes. Very late. But there's still time left.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (NWiLs)
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/off ONT sock
Posted by: redc1c4 at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (/a6u+)
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204 >>When my boss told me that I could either have an abortion or keep my job at State, I knew I was done with both abortion, and that godless entity.
Wow, Moki.
That is so freaking ghoulish *and* illegal what your boss did.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (bDqIh)
Laws are for Little People.
Wow, Moki.
That is so freaking ghoulish *and* illegal what your boss did.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (bDqIh)
Laws are for Little People.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (ifmtJ)
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Slut Lives Matter
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (FtO5h)
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Some of the morons on here are older than me and Ace (26, if I recall) so i know we have been through worse times. But this feels different- like we are on the cusp of something larger and incomprehensible.
It feels more like the late 60s, early 70s when a very loud but small movement was overstated grossly by the press fooling the culture into thinking everything was changing, until it finally did.
However, there's some reason to guess (CNN selling its property, for example) that these are the last spastic dying gasps of the left's power as well. That they are up against a wall and furiously fighting for their last chance. I don't know which is which.
All I know is what I see on TV and what is going on around me are radically different.
It feels more like the late 60s, early 70s when a very loud but small movement was overstated grossly by the press fooling the culture into thinking everything was changing, until it finally did.
However, there's some reason to guess (CNN selling its property, for example) that these are the last spastic dying gasps of the left's power as well. That they are up against a wall and furiously fighting for their last chance. I don't know which is which.
All I know is what I see on TV and what is going on around me are radically different.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (KZzsI)
Posted by: lizabth at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (L3Rsz)
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God had given them time to repent- something on the order of 400 years, if I am recalling the article correctly.
**********
God would have spared Sodom had there been 10 righteous people.
The reality is God will only move or use His people to completely wipe out a nation when there is LITERALLY no one left to save.
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God would have spared Sodom had there been 10 righteous people.
The reality is God will only move or use His people to completely wipe out a nation when there is LITERALLY no one left to save.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Sending Corona Infested Bats into SCOTUS Roberts's Bedroom at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (+dsLj)
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It's not abortion, it's killing. Frame it like that and it should make it clear when it's justified and when it's not.
My $.02
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (ifmtJ)
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My problem with killing those who are deemed "defective" and this is beyond my religious beliefs, is that once it becomes okay to kill those deemed "defective" the definition of who is deemed "defective" will be expanded beyond anything anyone could or would imagine.
My $.02
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (ifmtJ)
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My problem with killing those who are deemed "defective" and this is beyond my religious beliefs, is that once it becomes okay to kill those deemed "defective" the definition of who is deemed "defective" will be expanded beyond anything anyone could or would imagine.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (WEBkv)
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>>Continue to try.
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Amen, Muldoon!
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Amen, Muldoon!
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (bDqIh)
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Morning.
"how can facilitated death be forbidden to patients, such as those with dementia and mental illness, who may suffer far more extremely and for a much longer time than the already dying?"
Define "suffering".
Is a person with Down's suffering in the same way as a person with terminal lung cancer?
Ditto the dude with Alzheimer's.
Doctor assisted suicide is a difficult topic, for sure, but the writer says it's based on political expediency when I think that the writer is a gutless chickenshit for not wanting to admit that wanting to kill retards and old folks with dementia is far more about expediency than anything else. People like this they want to be free of the suffering that comes with having to care for someone who may have lost the ability, or may never have the ability, to care for themselves.
"how can facilitated death be forbidden to patients, such as those with dementia and mental illness, who may suffer far more extremely and for a much longer time than the already dying?"
Define "suffering".
Is a person with Down's suffering in the same way as a person with terminal lung cancer?
Ditto the dude with Alzheimer's.
Doctor assisted suicide is a difficult topic, for sure, but the writer says it's based on political expediency when I think that the writer is a gutless chickenshit for not wanting to admit that wanting to kill retards and old folks with dementia is far more about expediency than anything else. People like this they want to be free of the suffering that comes with having to care for someone who may have lost the ability, or may never have the ability, to care for themselves.
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (vBk0G)
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How can we know when a comment actually begins? Shouldn't there be freedom to choose by the cobs?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)
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206 For those of you following this, that Facebook moderator that I doxxed last week replied to my doxing tweet that I was OMG Stupid because that was her maiden name.
Should I go after her vehicle registration, marriage license, utility bill and credit rating? She lives where Florida Man is crazy adjacent and Florida Man is often a conservative. So this could have ramifications on her if one of them got canceled and blames her.
Lemme know what you think. I won't doxx her on Ace's place, but will on Twatter and/or Parler Gab.
Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (td8Ta)
I'm a bad person who endorses total war against our enemies.
So...yeah, burn the bitch.
Should I go after her vehicle registration, marriage license, utility bill and credit rating? She lives where Florida Man is crazy adjacent and Florida Man is often a conservative. So this could have ramifications on her if one of them got canceled and blames her.
Lemme know what you think. I won't doxx her on Ace's place, but will on Twatter and/or Parler Gab.
Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (td8Ta)
I'm a bad person who endorses total war against our enemies.
So...yeah, burn the bitch.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (ifmtJ)
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Margaret Sanger, the Patron Saint of the Democrat Party and founder of Planned Parenthood, specifically pushed for legalized abortion to "exterminate the black race in America." She and her party are wildly successful in their efforts to do so. More black babies are aborted than born in the US.
But you, Mr. and Ms. Conservative and/or Republican. YOU are the evil racists!
But you, Mr. and Ms. Conservative and/or Republican. YOU are the evil racists!
Posted by: Sharkman at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (BM2fS)
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Remind me- did Jesus walk through the world and only preach to those who lived a "perfect" life? Did he promise salvation only to those who did not sin?
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (VpIIl)
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I don't think the young women having abortions are murderers, they are also the victims of a wicked setup. It is the Abortion Mills and the industry that pushes it, simply because it's so profitable and gives them massive opportunities for graft, that's who the murderers are.
I can accept that distinction. My acceptance, however, is not all that important.
I can accept that distinction. My acceptance, however, is not all that important.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (eFYNk)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (FtO5h)
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Posted by: Orson at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (Lfc10)
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218 How can we know when a comment actually begins? Shouldn't there be freedom to choose by the cobs?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)
Some people believe comments begin at inception.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (NWiLs)
Some people believe comments begin at inception.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (ifmtJ)
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First, the vast majority of abortions are women 26-32, NOT teens.
Secondly, it's easy to get laid without conceiving. Duh.
Third, once you decide some people have no right to live then that's easily expandable.
I'm catholic because I don't ghink killing innocent people is ok, I'm not anti abortion because I'm catholic (now).
Secondly, it's easy to get laid without conceiving. Duh.
Third, once you decide some people have no right to live then that's easily expandable.
I'm catholic because I don't ghink killing innocent people is ok, I'm not anti abortion because I'm catholic (now).
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:42 AM (Rz2QO)
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There's an aspect of the abortion/culling of the old and sick (I don't like the term 'euthanasia' it's too clean) that causes conservatives and libertarians to part ways, and it shouldn't.
They come at it from different perspectives, but the common belief of both is, the state has NO BUSINESS being in the business of promoting and funding and proselytizing these things.
I think if there was less bickering and arguing between these two groups, they might actually be able to accomplish some good.
They come at it from different perspectives, but the common belief of both is, the state has NO BUSINESS being in the business of promoting and funding and proselytizing these things.
I think if there was less bickering and arguing between these two groups, they might actually be able to accomplish some good.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (hku12)
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Do ya think the war between capitalist and the globalist will expand to other countries if we have a shooting war?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (pB6Gt)
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It's very simple.
Do we have a right to life?
Or do we live at the mercy of others' desires, which ultimately is to say the State?
Do we have a right to life?
Or do we live at the mercy of others' desires, which ultimately is to say the State?
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (M/9m0)
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Slut Lives Matter
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (FtO5h)
Only if they're here in my lap.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (FtO5h)
Only if they're here in my lap.
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (vBk0G)
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Posted by: BifBewalski - Sinis Est Culus at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (td8Ta)
Philosophically I think cancel culture and doxxing are bad, but my studies in Game Theory say it won't stop until it's used against them....so I guess I'd say proceed at your discretion.
Philosophically I think cancel culture and doxxing are bad, but my studies in Game Theory say it won't stop until it's used against them....so I guess I'd say proceed at your discretion.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, back to no one giving a damn. at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (Ve//x)
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So a guy goes up to this great looking woman and ask "Would you have sex with me for $10,000?" The woman thinks about it for a minute and says "Yes for $10 grand I would have sex with you."
Then the guy says "Would you have sex with me for $10?" This really pisses the woman of and she shouts back at him, "HEY ASSHOLE what do think I am?" Guy says "We have already established what you are. Now we a haggling over price."
Then the guy says "Would you have sex with me for $10?" This really pisses the woman of and she shouts back at him, "HEY ASSHOLE what do think I am?" Guy says "We have already established what you are. Now we a haggling over price."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (bkUtD)
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What about the killing of innocent comments ?
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)
Such as "Ha's" comment at the top? For which I apologized?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Just jukin' ya man.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:35 AM (arJlL)
Such as "Ha's" comment at the top? For which I apologized?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
Just jukin' ya man.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (arJlL)
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... 2) these spreaders are activated primarily when their Vit D levels drop (usually) due to lack of sunlight.
3) when sig portion of pop also has depressed Vit D and hence depressed reistance the disease spreads from the spreaders to non-spreaders. ...
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (gYDp4)
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There is only one persistent, lasting change I made as a result of COVID and that is Vitamin D. I take a Vitamin D supplement now. I work indoors and don't get enough sun. I live alone and milk spoils too quickly, so I don't keep it stocked. I *know* that I am (or was) Vitamin D deficient. Not anymore.
3) when sig portion of pop also has depressed Vit D and hence depressed reistance the disease spreads from the spreaders to non-spreaders. ...
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:39 AM (gYDp4)
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There is only one persistent, lasting change I made as a result of COVID and that is Vitamin D. I take a Vitamin D supplement now. I work indoors and don't get enough sun. I live alone and milk spoils too quickly, so I don't keep it stocked. I *know* that I am (or was) Vitamin D deficient. Not anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)
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To me, opinions on abortion have very little to do logically with opinions on sexuality.
People mix them together and they're not necessarily related.
Pro-sex anti-abortion possible just like anti-sex anti-abortion possible etc etc
The analysis is independent.
People mix them together and they're not necessarily related.
Pro-sex anti-abortion possible just like anti-sex anti-abortion possible etc etc
The analysis is independent.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (gYDp4)
Posted by: Charlie's Angels Remake at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (+dsLj)
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I hate Sanger with the heat of a thousands suns, but this quote "exterminate the black race in America" is taken out of context.
It's good to read the actual letter, and see the quote in context.
She was a racist eugenist, no doubt and a wicked and evil woman.
It's good to read the actual letter, and see the quote in context.
She was a racist eugenist, no doubt and a wicked and evil woman.
Posted by: lizabth at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (L3Rsz)
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Ah, grasshoppah...If life is a circle, does a comment really begin where it begins...or does it begin where it ends?
Yeah, yeah, shaddap and gimme my fortune cookie.
Yeah, yeah, shaddap and gimme my fortune cookie.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (FtO5h)
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I don't think the young women having abortions are murderers.
I do. I've been pregnant. You're definitely willfully not only killing another, but your own child.
Problem is is that they've been convinced that it's fine, even objectively good. It's not, and they'll pay for it forever.
I do. I've been pregnant. You're definitely willfully not only killing another, but your own child.
Problem is is that they've been convinced that it's fine, even objectively good. It's not, and they'll pay for it forever.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (Rz2QO)
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Ghostbusters 2016.
****
Lulz
Posted by: Charlie's Angels Remake at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (+dsLj)
Pikers.
****
Lulz
Posted by: Charlie's Angels Remake at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (+dsLj)
Pikers.
Posted by: Anything Starring Will Ferrell at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)
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215 It's not abortion, it's killing. Frame it like that and it should make it clear when it's justified and when it's not.
My $.02
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (ifmtJ)
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My problem with killing those who are deemed "defective" and this is beyond my religious beliefs, is that once it becomes okay to kill those deemed "defective" the definition of who is deemed "defective" will be expanded beyond anything anyone could or would imagine.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (WEBkv)
And that's fine and defensible. Killing the defective starts to get into leery territory. A slippery slope, especially when the decision is placed in the hands of doctors instead of just parents. Or worse, bureaucrats.
My $.02
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:08 AM (ifmtJ)
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My problem with killing those who are deemed "defective" and this is beyond my religious beliefs, is that once it becomes okay to kill those deemed "defective" the definition of who is deemed "defective" will be expanded beyond anything anyone could or would imagine.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (WEBkv)
And that's fine and defensible. Killing the defective starts to get into leery territory. A slippery slope, especially when the decision is placed in the hands of doctors instead of just parents. Or worse, bureaucrats.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (ifmtJ)
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No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
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Where we go wrong, we go all.
Posted by: klaftern at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (RuIsu)
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Big comeback by McGrath against Booker in Kentucky. McGrath wins and will face Cocaine Mitch in the fall.
Radicals came up short on this one.
Radicals came up short on this one.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (ZLI7S)
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Slut thing. You make my heart sing.
Posted by: Fritz at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (95j/9)
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220 Margaret Sanger, the Patron Saint of the Democrat Party and founder of Planned Parenthood, specifically pushed for legalized abortion to "exterminate the black race in America." She and her party are wildly successful in their efforts to do so. More black babies are aborted than born in the US.
___________________
Ruth Ginsburg admitted as much in an interview once, when she said that the point of protecting abortion rights was so that we would not have too many babies born to populations that we don't want to have too many of.
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Ruth Ginsburg admitted as much in an interview once, when she said that the point of protecting abortion rights was so that we would not have too many babies born to populations that we don't want to have too many of.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (k4dH2)
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No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
Low end strip clubs.
So I'm told.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
Low end strip clubs.
So I'm told.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (Zz0t1)
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243 No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
Dude, you're in Florida....start in bars.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
Dude, you're in Florida....start in bars.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (ifmtJ)
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>>> No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
Brooklyn?
Brooklyn?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (bkUtD)
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246 Slut thing. You make my heart sing.
Posted by: Fritz at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (95j/9)
You make everything...groovy.
Posted by: Fritz at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (95j/9)
You make everything...groovy.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (ifmtJ)
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Perhaps I shouldn't make a distinction between women who have sex with their boyfriend and women who fuck around. Some studies now have a good percentage of women coming out of college having had triple digit sexual partners.
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
Are their lives ruined? Probably not.
Are they tagged with the label "cum dumpster"? Yeah. They are.
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
Are their lives ruined? Probably not.
Are they tagged with the label "cum dumpster"? Yeah. They are.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (zfBZT)
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What she said was that they (she and her ministerial friends) had to be careful with the presentation of family planning, so that people did not think they wanted to "exterminate the Black race in America".
Posted by: lizabth at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (L3Rsz)
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Did the Turtle really Tweet some pro-mask glurge? I saw it but couldn't tell if it was fake or not.
If real, Fuck McConnell. Fuck him anyway.
If real, Fuck McConnell. Fuck him anyway.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (FtO5h)
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Life is worth living. All life! My life with limited mobility and neuro difficulty is worth living. Innocent life needs to be protected. Suffering is no excuse for murdering people. We all will suffer, some more than others. Why is death perfered to suffering? Abortion and euthanasia are evil. Abortion is murder for convenience euthanasia is murder because we can't bear suffering of any sort. Life is good. Life is beautiful. Death is ugly. Death of humans at the hands of humans is evil. Self defense is not included in this rant. Neither is the death penalty for the same reasons.
Posted by: USNtakim at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (0OmEj)
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There is only one persistent, lasting change I made as a result of COVID and that is Vitamin D. I take a Vitamin D supplement now. I work indoors and don't get enough sun. I live alone and milk spoils too quickly, so I don't keep it stocked. I *know* that I am (or was) Vitamin D deficient. Not anymore.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)
Made my olds take that. And get sun. And zinc. That helps too. For same reason.
Brother we gotta get the Nursing Homes to get those ancients TAN!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:45 AM (hYcqw)
Made my olds take that. And get sun. And zinc. That helps too. For same reason.
Brother we gotta get the Nursing Homes to get those ancients TAN!
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (gYDp4)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
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GB 2016? Please.
Posted by: Battlefield Earth at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (+y/Ru)
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Ghostbusters 2016.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (bkUtD)
A fate I wish on nobody.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (bkUtD)
A fate I wish on nobody.
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (vBk0G)
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Continue to try.
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
THIS
Persist in your struggles.
Endeavor to persevere.
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
THIS
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (WwTwF)
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243 No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
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Any antifa rally.
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Any antifa rally.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (k4dH2)
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I don't think the young women having abortions are murderers.
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Did they terminate a life? Yes?
Murderers.
Don't marry a murderer, because in addition to murdering the unborn, they will also murder your marriage, your finances, your career, your self-esteem and finally your life too.
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Did they terminate a life? Yes?
Murderers.
Don't marry a murderer, because in addition to murdering the unborn, they will also murder your marriage, your finances, your career, your self-esteem and finally your life too.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Not Speaking From Experience Whatsoever at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (+dsLj)
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No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
There's this section of Seattle that's full of them
There's this section of Seattle that's full of them
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (KZzsI)
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No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
North Brattleboro, Vermont.
North Brattleboro, Vermont.
Posted by: spindrift at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (BCkIq)
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My problem with killing those who are deemed "defective" and this is beyond my religious beliefs, is that once it becomes okay to kill those deemed "defective" the definition of who is deemed "defective" will be expanded beyond anything anyone could or would imagine.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (WEBkv)
And that's fine and defensible. Killing the defective starts to get into leery territory. A slippery slope, especially when the decision is placed in the hands of doctors instead of just parents. Or worse, bureaucrats.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (ifmtJ)
Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 11:41 AM (WEBkv)
And that's fine and defensible. Killing the defective starts to get into leery territory. A slippery slope, especially when the decision is placed in the hands of doctors instead of just parents. Or worse, bureaucrats.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (ifmtJ)
Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Ashley Madison [dot] com at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (2M/TV)
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It's pretty good and entertaining, but I felt like it wasn't as interested in one of its central questions of "what is art?"
The titular square excites no one and is mostly ignored, but the main character mindlessly okays a commercial about it that's really outrageous and provocative. People get excited about the commercial instead of the square itself. Which one was art?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (LvTSG)
Too a certain extent the art question was answered at the very beginning, when the director asks the reporter,
"if I put your purse, over there in the museum, does that make it art?"
And the girl can't answer.
Though given what we see, I suspect the director would say it is, if he puts it in the museum.
The piles of dirt are also pretty much a clue.
But, in all honesty, the what is art? question was like a second or third degree topic not part of the main flow
The titular square excites no one and is mostly ignored, but the main character mindlessly okays a commercial about it that's really outrageous and provocative. People get excited about the commercial instead of the square itself. Which one was art?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (LvTSG)
Too a certain extent the art question was answered at the very beginning, when the director asks the reporter,
"if I put your purse, over there in the museum, does that make it art?"
And the girl can't answer.
Though given what we see, I suspect the director would say it is, if he puts it in the museum.
The piles of dirt are also pretty much a clue.
But, in all honesty, the what is art? question was like a second or third degree topic not part of the main flow
Posted by: naturalfake at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (dLPcm)
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233 >>>Define "suffering".
Ghostbusters 2016.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (bkUtD)
lol
Ghostbusters 2016.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:44 AM (bkUtD)
lol
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)
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Outstanding essay CBD. Thanks for this.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NVYyb)
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If this sounds appealing to you, watch it. You won't regret it.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Will do.
As the ever-wise Andrew Breitbart wisely noted, "Politics is downstream from culture." Seems to me we have a lot more power to change the culture than we realize. Making that movie a hit would be a move in that direction.
Also, downvoting movies that promote anti-Americanism and anti-Christianity would be another.
It's streaming on amazon for $2.99. And a few places elsewhere.
Check it out.
Will do.
As the ever-wise Andrew Breitbart wisely noted, "Politics is downstream from culture." Seems to me we have a lot more power to change the culture than we realize. Making that movie a hit would be a move in that direction.
Also, downvoting movies that promote anti-Americanism and anti-Christianity would be another.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (HaL55)
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Problem is is that they've been convinced that it's fine, even objectively good. It's not, and they'll pay for it forever.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (Rz2QO)
This may be a bit complex for a blog comment, but the spiritual health of the mother is of very little interest to me. When we link the death of the innocent baby to anything else we risk blurring the incontrovertible fact that the baby is a human being, independent of all other considerations.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (Rz2QO)
This may be a bit complex for a blog comment, but the spiritual health of the mother is of very little interest to me. When we link the death of the innocent baby to anything else we risk blurring the incontrovertible fact that the baby is a human being, independent of all other considerations.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (dLLD6)
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Made my olds take that. And get sun. And zinc. That helps too. For same reason.
Brother we gotta get the Nursing Homes to get those ancients TAN!
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (gYDp4)
+++++++++++++
What is TAN? I also added a Zinc supplement at the same time.
Brother we gotta get the Nursing Homes to get those ancients TAN!
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (gYDp4)
+++++++++++++
What is TAN? I also added a Zinc supplement at the same time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (hYcqw)
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257 >>>Slut thing. You make my heart sing.
FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
You make everything rashy
FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
You make everything rashy
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (NWiLs)
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FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
Golf. Clap. And thread winner!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
Golf. Clap. And thread winner!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (FtO5h)
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We're sorry.
Due to a declining subscribership, sanity is suspending operations. We hope you have enjoyed your brief exposure to civilization.
We now return you to terrifying chaos.
Due to a declining subscribership, sanity is suspending operations. We hope you have enjoyed your brief exposure to civilization.
We now return you to terrifying chaos.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (e1mEI)
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Thing you have to realize about Sanger is she wasn't alone, there were a lot of people like her and there are still a lot today. They still call themselves progressives.
They think that their right to control people and organize society supersedes everything, even human life. It should be classified as a mental illness.
They think that their right to control people and organize society supersedes everything, even human life. It should be classified as a mental illness.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (xfb67)
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No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
University?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
University?
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (vBk0G)
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Slut thing. You make my heart sing.
FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
*snort
FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp
*snort
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (zfBZT)
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"And whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of every kind that is on this earth.
So God said to Noah, this is the sign of the covenant that I have established between Me and all living things on earth"
Genesis 9:16-17
Anything less is a corruption and apostasy.
So God said to Noah, this is the sign of the covenant that I have established between Me and all living things on earth"
Genesis 9:16-17
Anything less is a corruption and apostasy.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (VpIIl)
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I saw this really powerful interview with Brandon Tatum. He was talking about how he got his girlfriend pregnant. She asked him to take her somewhere, which turned out to be an abortion clinic. That's when she told him she was getting an abortion. He couldn't do anything, so he sat in the car and prayed as hard as he could that she wouldn't do it. She came out an hour later, crying. She said she couldn't go through with it. He helped raise his son.
Posted by: notsothoreau at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (JKNZq)
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Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
++++++++++++
Sadly, that would be fiction. In reality, the bureaucrats and their agents kill indiscriminately when they aren't killing for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
++++++++++++
Sadly, that would be fiction. In reality, the bureaucrats and their agents kill indiscriminately when they aren't killing for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)
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I would say that I'm criminally in love with Ruth, of Ozarks. Anyone that says they aren't is a fakir.
Posted by: Menack at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (buTO7)
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264 No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
There's this section of Seattle that's full of them
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (KZzsI)
Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
Vegas is good, though.
There's this section of Seattle that's full of them
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (KZzsI)
Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (ifmtJ)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (bkUtD)
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define consciousness correctly or we will shoot
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (pB6Gt)
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278 No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards and poor taste?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
University?
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (vBk0G)
Maybe I should audit some classes or something.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:46 AM (NWiLs)
University?
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (vBk0G)
Maybe I should audit some classes or something.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (NWiLs)
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Do ya think the war between capitalist and the globalist will expand to other countries if we have a shooting war?
Posted by: humphreyrobot
What makes you think it hasn't already? What if we're just very, very late to the battle?
Posted by: humphreyrobot
What makes you think it hasn't already? What if we're just very, very late to the battle?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (OUMaO)
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No, really, where can I find these women of loose morals, low standards, Birkenstocks, armpit hair, patchouli stench and poor taste?
North Brattleboro, Vermont.
Posted by: spindrift at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (BCkIq)
FIFY
North Brattleboro, Vermont.
Posted by: spindrift at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (BCkIq)
FIFY
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (dLLD6)
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If you live in a place where abortion is commonplace, euthanasia is accepted practice, health care is state administered, you are under constant surveillance in all things in all ways, and law enforcement can use whatever means it sees fit to deal with the slightest infractions...
>>>You are here<<<
If you live in a place where abortion is commonplace, euthanasia is accepted practice, health care is state administered, you are under constant surveillance in all things in all ways, and law enforcement can use whatever means it sees fit to deal with the slightest infractions...
>>>You are here<<<
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (aKsyK)
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They think that their right to control people and organize society supersedes everything, even human life. It should be classified as a mental illness.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
VERY true. This is what makes these people so evil and frightening.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
VERY true. This is what makes these people so evil and frightening.
Posted by: lizabth at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (L3Rsz)
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What is TAN? I also added a Zinc supplement at the same time.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (hYcqw)
It's a better suntan than a regular suntan.
short for SUNTAN
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (hYcqw)
It's a better suntan than a regular suntan.
short for SUNTAN
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (gYDp4)
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Perhaps I shouldn't make a distinction between women who have sex with their boyfriend and women who fuck around. Some studies now have a good percentage of women coming out of college having had triple digit sexual partners.
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
Are their lives ruined? Probably not.
Are they tagged with the label "cum dumpster"? Yeah. They are.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (zfBZT)
This is how you get the kids to stay in school.
"Remember, Little Johnny, when you go to college you'll get more pussy than you could ever dream of."
Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
Are their lives ruined? Probably not.
Are they tagged with the label "cum dumpster"? Yeah. They are.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (zfBZT)
This is how you get the kids to stay in school.
"Remember, Little Johnny, when you go to college you'll get more pussy than you could ever dream of."
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (vBk0G)
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Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (ifmtJ)
We have got to go to Vegas.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (ifmtJ)
We have got to go to Vegas.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (NWiLs)
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280 "And whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and every living creature of every kind that is on this earth.
So God said to Noah, this is the sign of the covenant that I have established between Me and all living things on earth"
Genesis 9:16-17
Anything less is a corruption and apostasy.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (VpIIl)
Which verse has the rock monsters fighting vikings?
Asking for Darren Aronofsky
So God said to Noah, this is the sign of the covenant that I have established between Me and all living things on earth"
Genesis 9:16-17
Anything less is a corruption and apostasy.
Posted by: Marcus T at June 30, 2020 11:49 AM (VpIIl)
Which verse has the rock monsters fighting vikings?
Asking for Darren Aronofsky
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (ifmtJ)
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Good plot for some dystopian fiction there.
Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the
state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
Hello! Have we met?
Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the
state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
Hello! Have we met?
Posted by: Logan's Run at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (q1Pj5)
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282 Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
++++++++++++
Sadly, that would be fiction. In reality, the bureaucrats and their agents kill indiscriminately when they aren't killing for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)
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New guy joins the bureaucracy with dreams of doing everything right, and he struggles to find the right formula, frustrated that his bosses don't take his new models into account.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
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Sadly, that would be fiction. In reality, the bureaucrats and their agents kill indiscriminately when they aren't killing for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)
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New guy joins the bureaucracy with dreams of doing everything right, and he struggles to find the right formula, frustrated that his bosses don't take his new models into account.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (LvTSG)
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Slut thing. You make my heart sing.
FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
You make everything rashy
Posted by: Insomniac
And the Horde is off and running!
FIXED: "You make my pee sting."
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (bkUtD)
You make everything rashy
Posted by: Insomniac
And the Horde is off and running!
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (zfBZT)
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Anyone that says they aren't is a fakir.
Posted by: Menack at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (buTO7)
She's a Yid from the Bronx!
Posted by: Menack at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (buTO7)
She's a Yid from the Bronx!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (dLLD6)
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Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
The movie THX1138 touched on that. The police robots finally gave up chasing the prota-gonist because they exceeded the budget.
The movie THX1138 touched on that. The police robots finally gave up chasing the prota-gonist because they exceeded the budget.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (HaL55)
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Are their lives ruined? Maybe not but I bet they're not headed for as good a life as they might have had.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
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We've had legitimate studies over the course of the years that have shown a correlation where the more sexual partners women (and I'm assuming men) have the less likely they are to have a successful monogamous relationship that creates the foundation for a stable marriage and family unit. Once the count went past 1 the odds dramatically took a dive and then kept collapsing the more partners you have.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas
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We've had legitimate studies over the course of the years that have shown a correlation where the more sexual partners women (and I'm assuming men) have the less likely they are to have a successful monogamous relationship that creates the foundation for a stable marriage and family unit. Once the count went past 1 the odds dramatically took a dive and then kept collapsing the more partners you have.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Marrying A Virginal Zooey Deschanel on Earth 69 Dude at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (+dsLj)
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If only humans laid eggs, rather than wrapping the fetus inside another free person. So much of the abortion debate would be moot. C'mon God, shoulda thought of that.
To the Pro-Lifers: How are you with assisted suicide? I assume the religious are against?
To the Pro-Lifers: How are you with assisted suicide? I assume the religious are against?
Posted by: Not Enough Lampposts at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (KcWn0)
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Tell anyone who suggests that you end your life to go jump off a 50 story building head first onto concrete before you will entertain the thought. Then, if he survives tell him you have and that they can go fuck a rabid raccoon.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (dMoB0)
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Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:47 AM (zfBZT)
This is how you get the kids to stay in school.
"Remember, Little Johnny, when you go to college you'll get more pussy than you could ever dream of."
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (vBk0G)
Not necessarily.
This is how you get the kids to stay in school.
"Remember, Little Johnny, when you go to college you'll get more pussy than you could ever dream of."
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (vBk0G)
Not necessarily.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (NWiLs)
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294 Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (ifmtJ)
We have got to go to Vegas.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (NWiLs)
We will, once Vegas is Vegas again and the Wuhan has died down.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (ifmtJ)
We have got to go to Vegas.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (NWiLs)
We will, once Vegas is Vegas again and the Wuhan has died down.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (ifmtJ)
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It's a better suntan than a regular suntan.
short for SUNTAN
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (gYDp4)
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Ah. I assume it is machinery of some kind? Some type of whiz-bang tanning booth?
short for SUNTAN
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (gYDp4)
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Ah. I assume it is machinery of some kind? Some type of whiz-bang tanning booth?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)
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Ruth Ginsburg admitted as much in an interview once, when she said that the point of protecting abortion rights was so that we would not have too many babies born to populations that we don't want to have too many of.
This is literally true. She said that.
This is literally true. She said that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (KZzsI)
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OT but important.
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Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (axyOa)
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She was a racist eugenist, no doubt and a wicked and evil woman.
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The preferred term is "progressive".
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The preferred term is "progressive".
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
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303 Tell anyone who suggests that you end your life to go jump off a 50 story building head first onto concrete before you will entertain the thought. Then, if he survives tell him you have and that they can go fuck a rabid raccoon.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (dMoB0)
lol
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (dMoB0)
lol
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (ifmtJ)
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More stupidity... from The Athletic:
https://bit.ly/3gfWxJo
Three MLB players have announced they will sit out 2020. Will more follow?
PAUL:
Funny, us civilians with real jobs don't have the luxury to "opt out". Good thing there are enough of us forced to work by necessity so that Mike can get his groceries and enjoy his time off.
Zach Buchanan
STAFF
Paul, and how will Mike Leake playing baseball and potentially risking catching and transmitting an illness that could kill his father make your personal situation better.
This is the mentality all over. If we want to get back to normal, we're going to kill grandpa.
Never occurred to Zach that if Mike Leake was really worried about his father, all he has to do is take precautions when he's around his father? No, instead of doing that, he has to quit his job?
This is why we're never getting out of this lockdown and mask and "social distancing" shit. Because there are people like this all over the damn place.
https://bit.ly/3gfWxJo
Three MLB players have announced they will sit out 2020. Will more follow?
PAUL:
Funny, us civilians with real jobs don't have the luxury to "opt out". Good thing there are enough of us forced to work by necessity so that Mike can get his groceries and enjoy his time off.
Zach Buchanan
STAFF
Paul, and how will Mike Leake playing baseball and potentially risking catching and transmitting an illness that could kill his father make your personal situation better.
This is the mentality all over. If we want to get back to normal, we're going to kill grandpa.
Never occurred to Zach that if Mike Leake was really worried about his father, all he has to do is take precautions when he's around his father? No, instead of doing that, he has to quit his job?
This is why we're never getting out of this lockdown and mask and "social distancing" shit. Because there are people like this all over the damn place.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (Do5/p)
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300 Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
The movie THX1138 touched on that. The police robots finally gave up chasing the prota-gonist because they exceeded the budget.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (HaL55)
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They said they would stop chasing him after 5%, but they didn't stop until a full 6%.
George Lucas doesn't understand numbers.
Love the movie, though.
The movie THX1138 touched on that. The police robots finally gave up chasing the prota-gonist because they exceeded the budget.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (HaL55)
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They said they would stop chasing him after 5%, but they didn't stop until a full 6%.
George Lucas doesn't understand numbers.
Love the movie, though.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (LvTSG)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (FtO5h)
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217 Morning.
"how can facilitated death be forbidden to patients, such as those with dementia and mental illness, who may suffer far more extremely and for a much longer time than the already dying?"
Define "suffering".
Is a person with Down's suffering in the same way as a person with terminal lung cancer?
Ditto the dude with Alzheimer's."
I have been in ICU waiting rooms, I have been a party to end-of-life decisions. A big part of the dilemma we face today is that our technological and medical capabilities have leapfrogged past our intellectual and moral framework. We now have the ability to do things, like prolong life even in dire circumstances, that previous generations never faced. That is causing us a great deal of trouble.
For me, in the situations I've seen, my decision depends on the question, is there any chance of this person recovering to the point that they can maintain their life themselves? For instance, if someone is on intravenous or tube feeding, is there a good prospect of them regaining the ability to take nourishment by themselves? If not, for example in permanent coma, then I would say terminate it. Same thing with breathing machines, is there a good chance of recovery? If not, that is time to let them go.
"Suffering" is a false and easily manipulated concept, I don't think it's reliable for any serious discussions. BUT the lack of any meaningful chance of recovery is, to me at least, controlling when combined with the inability to sustain life by any normal and natural methods.
"how can facilitated death be forbidden to patients, such as those with dementia and mental illness, who may suffer far more extremely and for a much longer time than the already dying?"
Define "suffering".
Is a person with Down's suffering in the same way as a person with terminal lung cancer?
Ditto the dude with Alzheimer's."
I have been in ICU waiting rooms, I have been a party to end-of-life decisions. A big part of the dilemma we face today is that our technological and medical capabilities have leapfrogged past our intellectual and moral framework. We now have the ability to do things, like prolong life even in dire circumstances, that previous generations never faced. That is causing us a great deal of trouble.
For me, in the situations I've seen, my decision depends on the question, is there any chance of this person recovering to the point that they can maintain their life themselves? For instance, if someone is on intravenous or tube feeding, is there a good prospect of them regaining the ability to take nourishment by themselves? If not, for example in permanent coma, then I would say terminate it. Same thing with breathing machines, is there a good chance of recovery? If not, that is time to let them go.
"Suffering" is a false and easily manipulated concept, I don't think it's reliable for any serious discussions. BUT the lack of any meaningful chance of recovery is, to me at least, controlling when combined with the inability to sustain life by any normal and natural methods.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (Kpl3J)
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Posted by: Two Weeks From Marrying A Virginal Zooey Deschanel on Earth 69 Dude
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I hope you have time machine for that one, brother...
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I hope you have time machine for that one, brother...
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (hYcqw)
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282 Good plot for some dystopian fiction there. Bureaucrats and actuaries figuring out the value of your life to the state, and snuffing you when you become a net loss.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
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Sadly, that would be fiction. In reality, the bureaucrats and their agents kill indiscriminately when they aren't killing for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)
I am told they do this very thing in Canada. I had a boss who was stationed up at the Consulate in Vancouver BC. He had friends who came to the US for cancer treatment because the medical bureaucrats do a cost benefit analysis on you- looking at your age, cost of treatment (and also no doubt net worth because, taxes). If it was too expensive- you got a visit from a candy striper with a bottle of pills.
This was anecdotal, of course, but i have no reason not to believe him.
Those that rally for such as system- i say you first.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:48 AM (NWiLs)
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Sadly, that would be fiction. In reality, the bureaucrats and their agents kill indiscriminately when they aren't killing for purely political reasons.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (hYcqw)
I am told they do this very thing in Canada. I had a boss who was stationed up at the Consulate in Vancouver BC. He had friends who came to the US for cancer treatment because the medical bureaucrats do a cost benefit analysis on you- looking at your age, cost of treatment (and also no doubt net worth because, taxes). If it was too expensive- you got a visit from a candy striper with a bottle of pills.
This was anecdotal, of course, but i have no reason not to believe him.
Those that rally for such as system- i say you first.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (xyImL)
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We will, once Vegas is Vegas again and the Wuhan has died down.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (ifmtJ)
Ah yes, there is that. Stupid Chinese Lung AIDS.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (ifmtJ)
Ah yes, there is that. Stupid Chinese Lung AIDS.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (NWiLs)
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To the Pro-Lifers: How are you with assisted suicide? I assume the religious are against?
People who find human life sacred are indeed opposed to assisted or any other form of suicide. The only kind of killing you'll find someone like that supporting would be executing horrific criminals and self defense or a just war.
People who find human life sacred are indeed opposed to assisted or any other form of suicide. The only kind of killing you'll find someone like that supporting would be executing horrific criminals and self defense or a just war.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (KZzsI)
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Ah. I assume it is machinery of some kind? Some type of whiz-bang tanning booth?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)
Nah we're just gonna roll em out naked on some kind of rotisserie for an hour a day in the sun.
We'll be rich!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (hYcqw)
Nah we're just gonna roll em out naked on some kind of rotisserie for an hour a day in the sun.
We'll be rich!
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (gYDp4)
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Ruth Ginsburg admitted as much in an interview once, when she said that the point of protecting abortion rights was so that we would not have too many babies born to populations that we don't want to have too many of.
This is literally true. She said that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Damn! A Supreme Court Justice who ended a sentence with a preposition! She needs to be replaced!
This is literally true. She said that.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Damn! A Supreme Court Justice who ended a sentence with a preposition! She needs to be replaced!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (axyOa)
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SCOTUS has become a big part of the problem. There is no balance
anymore. They've become a big part of the problem and putting their
imprimatur on a specific political agenda is their aim.
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IMHO, Roberts and SCOTUS have created their own rice bowl, overlords of the US, and Roberts has an especially tasty bowl with his secret intelligence courts. Yo, Meester President, don't get above yourself: I supervise the warrants for secret surveillance.
Ultimately, I think that was the 'secret weapon' in weaponizing the intelligence agencies. Never underestimate the power of a judge in a secret court.
Maybe my recall is faulty, but I do seem to remember Stroke and Page texting about a judge invited to a dinner party.
SCOTUS has become a big part of the problem. There is no balance
anymore. They've become a big part of the problem and putting their
imprimatur on a specific political agenda is their aim.
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IMHO, Roberts and SCOTUS have created their own rice bowl, overlords of the US, and Roberts has an especially tasty bowl with his secret intelligence courts. Yo, Meester President, don't get above yourself: I supervise the warrants for secret surveillance.
Ultimately, I think that was the 'secret weapon' in weaponizing the intelligence agencies. Never underestimate the power of a judge in a secret court.
Maybe my recall is faulty, but I do seem to remember Stroke and Page texting about a judge invited to a dinner party.
Posted by: mustbequantum at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (MIKMs)
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>>My problem with killing those who are deemed "defective" and this is beyond my religious beliefs, is that once it becomes okay to kill those deemed "defective" the definition of who is deemed "defective" will be expanded beyond anything anyone could or would imagine.
Have them watch "Gattaca."
Not kidding.
Have them watch "Gattaca."
Not kidding.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (bDqIh)
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check out this tweet about Texas COVID
letter fro. exec wt ER chain spelling out what's happening
nutshell - younger ppl (30s) get cough or cold, are told to get tested, yes they have Kung Flu but it's mild
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/
1277773122301804546
letter fro. exec wt ER chain spelling out what's happening
nutshell - younger ppl (30s) get cough or cold, are told to get tested, yes they have Kung Flu but it's mild
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/
1277773122301804546
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (WwTwF)
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I hope you have time machine for that one, brother...
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Well it's an alternative universe, so I only really need a wormhole.
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Well it's an alternative universe, so I only really need a wormhole.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Marrying A Virginal Zooey Deschanel on Earth 69, Dude! at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (+dsLj)
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320 Damn! A Supreme Court Justice who ended a sentence with a preposition! She needs to be replaced!
Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (axyOa)
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I believe that was one of Sotomayor's claims to intelligence. That or split infinitives.
I want her to quickly retire from the court.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2020 11:53 AM (axyOa)
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I believe that was one of Sotomayor's claims to intelligence. That or split infinitives.
I want her to quickly retire from the court.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (LvTSG)
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Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (Do5/p)
So you are saying the Mariners have a chance?
So you are saying the Mariners have a chance?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (k/TB6)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (bkUtD)
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Do ya think the war between capitalist and the globalist will expand to other countries if we have a shooting war?
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (pB6Gt)
I think the stuff we teach our children in this country, about the sins of America, is extremely mild in comparison to what western nations are teaching their children about America.
We're the baddies.
That's the consensus, and you could drive a death star between reality and how many Euros see America, but yeah, if push comes to shove, I think we'd be on the opposite side of most of Europe in a global war.
Posted by: humphreyrobot at June 30, 2020 11:43 AM (pB6Gt)
I think the stuff we teach our children in this country, about the sins of America, is extremely mild in comparison to what western nations are teaching their children about America.
We're the baddies.
That's the consensus, and you could drive a death star between reality and how many Euros see America, but yeah, if push comes to shove, I think we'd be on the opposite side of most of Europe in a global war.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)
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Who needs dystopian fiction?
Posted by: klaftern at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (RuIsu)
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MUMR's comments really ARE just a clump of letters.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (Fc5rx)
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Maybe I should audit some classes or something.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (NWiLs)
Keep a bunch of fresh towels ready. Auditing classes may get...messy.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:50 AM (NWiLs)
Keep a bunch of fresh towels ready. Auditing classes may get...messy.
Posted by: Robert at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (vBk0G)
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (dMoB0)
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Legal Insurrection has a poll saying 42 per cent of voters (and 20 per cent of Democrats!) think Biden is Sundowning and belongs in a home. That probably means around half of indie voters think senility is setting in too, a number that is going to seriously hamper the Democrats. This poll highlights yet again how important his Veep selection is going to be. Whoever the Demofascist Central Committee chooses for the job, I hope she really, really stinks to high heaven as a candidate.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (NVYyb)
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>>I want her to quickly retire from the court. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (LvTSG)
We see what you did there.
We see what you did there.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (yvnmY)
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Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
What you catch in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
What you catch in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (zfBZT)
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I am told they do this very thing in Canada. I had a boss who was stationed up at the Consulate in Vancouver BC. He had friends who came to the US for cancer treatment because the medical bureaucrats do a cost benefit analysis on you- looking at your age, cost of treatment (and also no doubt net worth because, taxes). If it was too expensive- you got a visit from a candy striper with a bottle of pills.
Same thing in every Scandanavian country. If you're too expensive or old for the state to pay for, you are helped to die, or laid out and let starve if you're not deemed important like a celebrity or politician. Rich people can pay for their own care.
But, its pretty much true here as well. If you are very old and not super rich, doctors will say 'well there's no point fighting this, you're going to die soon anyway'. I cannot get dentists to help my mom's crumbling teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely eat, she's so old now anyway
Same thing in every Scandanavian country. If you're too expensive or old for the state to pay for, you are helped to die, or laid out and let starve if you're not deemed important like a celebrity or politician. Rich people can pay for their own care.
But, its pretty much true here as well. If you are very old and not super rich, doctors will say 'well there's no point fighting this, you're going to die soon anyway'. I cannot get dentists to help my mom's crumbling teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely eat, she's so old now anyway
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
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324 I hope you have time machine for that one, brother...
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Well it's an alternative universe, so I only really need a wormhole.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Marrying A Virginal Zooey Deschanel on Earth 69, Dude! at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (+dsLj)
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I watched Us last night. I think it would have worked a bit better with an alternate universe explanation rather than the weird, underground tunnel secret government experiment explanation that it wouldn't shut up about.
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Well it's an alternative universe, so I only really need a wormhole.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Marrying A Virginal Zooey Deschanel on Earth 69, Dude! at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (+dsLj)
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I watched Us last night. I think it would have worked a bit better with an alternate universe explanation rather than the weird, underground tunnel secret government experiment explanation that it wouldn't shut up about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (LvTSG)
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... This is the mentality all over. If we want to get back to normal, we're going to kill grandpa. ...
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (Do5/p)
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The best way to avoid killing grandpa is to quit forcing COVID patients into nursing homes. Half or more of all COVID deaths are in nursing homes. They fucked up cause-of-death stats so badly that we'll likely never know for sure (and this was probably a major point of that - to cover their tracks) but this virus sucks to get but isn't all *that* lethal outside of institutional settings.
Use some of that big MLB money to put him up in a condo and hire a live-in, American-born nurse with good hygiene to care for him. That is a much better answer than quitting your job, I think.
If you don't want to kill grandpa, quit voting for Democrat governors that callously kill grandpa.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (Do5/p)
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The best way to avoid killing grandpa is to quit forcing COVID patients into nursing homes. Half or more of all COVID deaths are in nursing homes. They fucked up cause-of-death stats so badly that we'll likely never know for sure (and this was probably a major point of that - to cover their tracks) but this virus sucks to get but isn't all *that* lethal outside of institutional settings.
Use some of that big MLB money to put him up in a condo and hire a live-in, American-born nurse with good hygiene to care for him. That is a much better answer than quitting your job, I think.
If you don't want to kill grandpa, quit voting for Democrat governors that callously kill grandpa.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (hYcqw)
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She was a racist eugenist, no doubt and a wicked and evil woman.
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The preferred term is "progressive".
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
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Progressives got their hold in the 1920s. Even called themselves progressives. Many of their ideas were embraced by a certain failed Austrian artist. Eugenics being one of them.
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The preferred term is "progressive".
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
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Progressives got their hold in the 1920s. Even called themselves progressives. Many of their ideas were embraced by a certain failed Austrian artist. Eugenics being one of them.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (pw+jk)
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>>Next question. Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (dMoB0)
Head of a pin. Angels.
You will show your math. Do it now.
Head of a pin. Angels.
You will show your math. Do it now.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (yvnmY)
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>>Ruth Ginsburg admitted as much in an interview once, when she said that the point of protecting abortion rights was so that we would not have too many babies born to populations that we don't want to have too many of.
This is literally true. She said that.
- - -
Fast forward several decades and we get:
We must have mass immigration, from the poorest and most failed countries, because our own citizens are no longer reproducing.
How about the government get out of the way instead of micro-managing its citizens' reproduction?
This is literally true. She said that.
- - -
Fast forward several decades and we get:
We must have mass immigration, from the poorest and most failed countries, because our own citizens are no longer reproducing.
How about the government get out of the way instead of micro-managing its citizens' reproduction?
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (bDqIh)
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Don't marry a murderer, because in addition to murdering the unborn, they will also murder your marriage, your finances, your career, your self-esteem and finally your life too.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Not Speaking From Experience Whatsoever
I would add the word "unrepentant" in there. If I'm going to be consistent with what I'm trying so desperately to believe, a truly penitent person who is atoning for his or her sins is due forgiveness. (Wholly separate from the issue of divine grace, mind you.)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Not Speaking From Experience Whatsoever
I would add the word "unrepentant" in there. If I'm going to be consistent with what I'm trying so desperately to believe, a truly penitent person who is atoning for his or her sins is due forgiveness. (Wholly separate from the issue of divine grace, mind you.)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (OUMaO)
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This may be a bit complex for a blog comment, but the spiritual health of the mother is of very little interest to me. When we link the death of the innocent baby to anything else we risk blurring the incontrovertible fact that the baby is a human being, independent of all other considerations.
I'm not too terribly interested in murderers' spiritual health either. To me it's about killing people.
Killing innocent people is bad. Killing innocent people on purpose is evil.
My point is that the culture tells them it's good. It never is and they'll suffer for it in a myriad of ways both physical and mental. Spiritually, sure, but i doubt there was much there to start with.
I'm not too terribly interested in murderers' spiritual health either. To me it's about killing people.
Killing innocent people is bad. Killing innocent people on purpose is evil.
My point is that the culture tells them it's good. It never is and they'll suffer for it in a myriad of ways both physical and mental. Spiritually, sure, but i doubt there was much there to start with.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (Rz2QO)
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It's a better suntan than a regular suntan.
short for SUNTAN
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (gYDp4)
++++++++++++
Ah. I assume it is machinery of some kind? Some type of whiz-bang tanning booth?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Its like a car wash and ya walk through naked.
short for SUNTAN
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 11:51 AM (gYDp4)
++++++++++++
Ah. I assume it is machinery of some kind? Some type of whiz-bang tanning booth?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Its like a car wash and ya walk through naked.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (arJlL)
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I believe that was one of Sotomayor's claims to intelligence. That or split infinitives.
I want her to quickly retire from the court.
Someone send her a dozen donuts
I believe that was one of Sotomayor's claims to intelligence. That or split infinitives.
I want her to quickly retire from the court.
Someone send her a dozen donuts
Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (Zmnko)
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Have them watch "Gattaca."
Not kidding.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (bDqIh)
I agree, that is one of my favorite movies. A relatively unknown sci-fi classic, it didn't get a lot of attention because it's power is far too intellectual. No Michael Bay explosions of any kind.
Not kidding.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (bDqIh)
I agree, that is one of my favorite movies. A relatively unknown sci-fi classic, it didn't get a lot of attention because it's power is far too intellectual. No Michael Bay explosions of any kind.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (Kpl3J)
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>>I cannot get dentists to help my mom's crumbling
teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely
eat, she's so old now anyway Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
HUMANS REQUIRE ICE CREAM.
teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely
eat, she's so old now anyway Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
HUMANS REQUIRE ICE CREAM.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (ZS9TG)
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I hope she really, really stinks to high heaven as a candidate.
**********
Tanned Rested and Ready!
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Tanned Rested and Ready!
Posted by: Kamala Harris Wiping Her Mouth After Another "Session" at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (+dsLj)
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But a second front is developing, and we must push back against any hint that the aged and demented are any less human and deserving of society's protection than the hale and hearty and productive.
Simple. You or someone you care about are a target of their euthanasia, simply go on a crime spree and rape and murder your way to a death sentence.
Then they will move heaven and earth, if they could, to have you live immortal. They will even shove people out of the way so that the condemned can have an organ transplant.
Simple. You or someone you care about are a target of their euthanasia, simply go on a crime spree and rape and murder your way to a death sentence.
Then they will move heaven and earth, if they could, to have you live immortal. They will even shove people out of the way so that the condemned can have an organ transplant.
Posted by: 🐧 at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (C+evo)
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13 11 Age 30 and...
Run Sandman Logan run
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
you ever met anyone that renewed??
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (JFO2v)
Is that why there is nobody in the Horde that is over the age of 29?
Run Sandman Logan run
Posted by: Anna Puma at June 30, 2020 11:06 AM (E+fVR)
you ever met anyone that renewed??
Posted by: rhennigantx at June 30, 2020 11:07 AM (JFO2v)
Is that why there is nobody in the Horde that is over the age of 29?
Posted by: Darrell Harris at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (6xA3t)
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Fast forward several decades and we get:
We must have mass immigration, from the poorest and most failed countries, because our own citizens are no longer reproducing.
How about the government get out of the way instead of micro-managing its citizens' reproduction?
Posted by: Lizzy
Well, duh, how else are they going to abolish a recalcitrant people and replace them with another, more tractable people?
We must have mass immigration, from the poorest and most failed countries, because our own citizens are no longer reproducing.
How about the government get out of the way instead of micro-managing its citizens' reproduction?
Posted by: Lizzy
Well, duh, how else are they going to abolish a recalcitrant people and replace them with another, more tractable people?
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (OUMaO)
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I watched Us last night. I think it would have worked a bit better with an alternate universe explanation rather than the weird, underground tunnel secret government experiment explanation that it wouldn't shut up about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (LvTSG)
Agreed. There's a neat horror story there ruined by social commentary and logic and logistic failures.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (LvTSG)
Agreed. There's a neat horror story there ruined by social commentary and logic and logistic failures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (ifmtJ)
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I believe that was one of Sotomayor's claims to intelligence. That or split infinitives.
I want her to quickly retire from the court.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (LvTSG)
I think we were talking about this last week... Wise Latina is 66 years old. She's a fat hispanic woman.
I'm not predicting, but it wouldn't shock me at all if she's the first of our current Supremes to drop dead.
I want her to quickly retire from the court.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (LvTSG)
I think we were talking about this last week... Wise Latina is 66 years old. She's a fat hispanic woman.
I'm not predicting, but it wouldn't shock me at all if she's the first of our current Supremes to drop dead.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (hku12)
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>>Progressives got their hold in the 1920s. Even called themselves progressives. Many of their ideas were embraced by a certain failed Austrian artist. Eugenics being one of them.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN DISCUSSING PATRON SAINT OF ABORTION, MARGARET SANGER, YOU CANNOT "GO GODWIN." SINCE HITLER WAS IN FACT A GREAT ADMIRER OF HER WORK.
IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WHEN DISCUSSING PATRON SAINT OF ABORTION, MARGARET SANGER, YOU CANNOT "GO GODWIN." SINCE HITLER WAS IN FACT A GREAT ADMIRER OF HER WORK.
Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (bDqIh)
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347 >>I cannot get dentists to help my mom's crumbling
teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely
eat, she's so old now anyway Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
HUMANS REQUIRE ICE CREAM.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (ZS9TG)
Zod is correct
teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely
eat, she's so old now anyway Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
HUMANS REQUIRE ICE CREAM.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (ZS9TG)
Zod is correct
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (ifmtJ)
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I keep forgetting shit so I'm watching Heidi like a hawk.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (Jx5Qs)
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This is the exact Ginsberg quote about Roe v Wade
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of."
Snopes tries to claim its different in context, but... it isn't.
"Frankly I had thought that at the time Roe was decided, there was concern about population growth and particularly growth in populations that we don't want to have too many of."
Snopes tries to claim its different in context, but... it isn't.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (KZzsI)
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I think we were talking about this last week... Wise Latina is 66 years old. She's a fat hispanic woman.
With diabetes from childhood
With diabetes from childhood
Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (Zmnko)
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Three MLB players have announced they will sit out 2020. Will more follow
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Oh, no, Br'er Fox! Don't throw me into the briar patch!
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Oh, no, Br'er Fox! Don't throw me into the briar patch!
Posted by: Br'er Rabbit at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)
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Have them watch "Gattaca."
Not kidding.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (bDqIh)
+++++++++++++
It's a good movie with excellent world-building (and, sadly, the narration that comes with such an effort done in one movie, but whatever). It is well worth watching. I know few people who liked it - most people I know found it boring. I don't get that. It tells a heartbreaking (and lifting, too) story.
Not kidding.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (bDqIh)
+++++++++++++
It's a good movie with excellent world-building (and, sadly, the narration that comes with such an effort done in one movie, but whatever). It is well worth watching. I know few people who liked it - most people I know found it boring. I don't get that. It tells a heartbreaking (and lifting, too) story.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (hYcqw)
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Sanger saw hordes of diseased, poorly cared for children who physically suffered.
She decided they were better off dead.
I'm sure she felt virtuous about that.
Deciding that others are better off dead isn't virtue. It's evil.
She decided they were better off dead.
I'm sure she felt virtuous about that.
Deciding that others are better off dead isn't virtue. It's evil.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (Rz2QO)
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (WwTwF)
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352 I watched Us last night. I think it would have worked a bit better with an alternate universe explanation rather than the weird, underground tunnel secret government experiment explanation that it wouldn't shut up about.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (LvTSG)
Agreed. There's a neat horror story there ruined by social commentary and logic and logistic failures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (ifmtJ)
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I'm not even sure what the social commentary is supposed to be because the literal explanation of the tunnel stuff makes so little sense.
I also feel like the attack stuff in the second act goes on for too long. They should have had the exposition dump of the wider problem in between the first house and the second house instead of feeding right from one into the other. We needed a break.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (LvTSG)
Agreed. There's a neat horror story there ruined by social commentary and logic and logistic failures.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 11:58 AM (ifmtJ)
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I'm not even sure what the social commentary is supposed to be because the literal explanation of the tunnel stuff makes so little sense.
I also feel like the attack stuff in the second act goes on for too long. They should have had the exposition dump of the wider problem in between the first house and the second house instead of feeding right from one into the other. We needed a break.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (LvTSG)
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Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (OUMaO)
Bird is the word!
Bird is the word!
Posted by: spindrift at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (BCkIq)
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Agreed. There's a neat horror story there ruined by social commentary and logic and logistic failures.
maybe it's a documentary
maybe it's a documentary
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (j9HX3)
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Did someone mention rotisserie?
Posted by: Robert, mmmmm hmmmm at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (vBk0G)
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Its like a car wash and ya walk through naked.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (arJlL)
It's a rotisserie kinda thing. On wheels. Has a motor.
Posted by: JT at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (arJlL)
It's a rotisserie kinda thing. On wheels. Has a motor.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (gYDp4)
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That's the consensus, and you could drive a death star between reality and how many Euros see America, but yeah, if push comes to shove, I think we'd be on the opposite side of most of Europe in a global war.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)
I took the family to Europe for three weeks a couple of years ago and had a great time (France, UK, Spain, Portugal). The Portuguese were the most friendly and hospitable. I remember chatting with a barkeep who was envious of me being an American due to low taxes.
Most other Europeans were quite welcoming (even the Parisians!), which I didn't expect. the surprising thing was in Spain- anytime i spoke spanish to the locals (high school and some college spanish- very rusty) I almost ALWAYS got a shocked look when i told them I was an American. They thought i was french or something else- but never a Yank. I made it a point to say, "Well, all Americans are as good looking, well mannered and friendly as me."
Hey, I do what i can for 'Merica!
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)
I took the family to Europe for three weeks a couple of years ago and had a great time (France, UK, Spain, Portugal). The Portuguese were the most friendly and hospitable. I remember chatting with a barkeep who was envious of me being an American due to low taxes.
Most other Europeans were quite welcoming (even the Parisians!), which I didn't expect. the surprising thing was in Spain- anytime i spoke spanish to the locals (high school and some college spanish- very rusty) I almost ALWAYS got a shocked look when i told them I was an American. They thought i was french or something else- but never a Yank. I made it a point to say, "Well, all Americans are as good looking, well mannered and friendly as me."
Hey, I do what i can for 'Merica!
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (xyImL)
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My point is that the culture tells them it's good.
It never is and they'll suffer for it in a myriad of ways both physical
and mental. Spiritually, sure, but i doubt there was much there to start
with.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (Rz2QO)
Understood. My reservation is in the possibility that the damage done to the mother by an abortion in some way makes it worse. It is an evil independent of anything else.
It never is and they'll suffer for it in a myriad of ways both physical
and mental. Spiritually, sure, but i doubt there was much there to start
with.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:57 AM (Rz2QO)
Understood. My reservation is in the possibility that the damage done to the mother by an abortion in some way makes it worse. It is an evil independent of anything else.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (dLLD6)
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In other idiocy, I see tech companies are now banning the terms "whitelist" and "blacklist". Which were never derived from skin color in the first place.
We talk a lot about public schools indoctrinating kids, but more needs to be said about how abysmal an education they're getting besides.
We talk a lot about public schools indoctrinating kids, but more needs to be said about how abysmal an education they're getting besides.
Posted by: Ian S. at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (ZGrMX)
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335 Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
What you catch in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (zfBZT)
Yes, you wrap everything in Vegas.
But it can still be a hell of a lot of fun, even with condoms.
Vegas is good, though.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
What you catch in Vegas, doesn't stay in Vegas.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (zfBZT)
Yes, you wrap everything in Vegas.
But it can still be a hell of a lot of fun, even with condoms.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (ifmtJ)
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I know few people who liked it - most people I know found it boring. I don't get that. It tells a heartbreaking (and lifting, too) story.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
This just proves that people are stupid.
Gattaca is one of tye best movies ever.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
This just proves that people are stupid.
Gattaca is one of tye best movies ever.
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (WwTwF)
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mom is lactose intolerant, so we get her a lot of frozen yogurt 
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (KZzsI)
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I would add the word "unrepentant" in there. If I'm going to be consistent with what I'm trying so desperately to believe, a truly penitent person who is atoning for his or her sins is due forgiveness. (Wholly separate from the issue of divine grace, mind you.)
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (OUMaO)
Which gets to the heart of one of the problems with these types of discussions:
It's not a good idea to judge people. Judge their actions. Leave the judgement of people to God.
Posted by: Brother Tim sez: There is always More Stupid at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (OUMaO)
Which gets to the heart of one of the problems with these types of discussions:
It's not a good idea to judge people. Judge their actions. Leave the judgement of people to God.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)
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Ahhhhh, now we get to the heart of the issue.....
Assuming that the Times is right and that the matter was included in the PDB in late February, how could Trump have missed it? That's simple: "Mr. Trump is said to often neglect reading that document, preferring instead to receive an oral briefing summarizing highlights every few days," the Times notes. His disinterest in the Daily Brief, one of the most fascinating intelligence documents in the world, was also noted a few months ago amid fingerpointing about why the feds didn't move sooner to address the coronavirus epidemic when it was percolating in China early this year.
Trump doesn't read every single line in the PDB, so they slip an unactionable unverified intelligence assessment in about Russians paying bounties, knowing that the briefer won't include it in the oral brief. Then run screaming to the NYT that trump is colluding with the Russians to get American soldiers killed. Tries to make a case that Trump is still on the side of the Russians, and doesn't care about our military, and is inept by not reading the entire PDB.
Assuming that the Times is right and that the matter was included in the PDB in late February, how could Trump have missed it? That's simple: "Mr. Trump is said to often neglect reading that document, preferring instead to receive an oral briefing summarizing highlights every few days," the Times notes. His disinterest in the Daily Brief, one of the most fascinating intelligence documents in the world, was also noted a few months ago amid fingerpointing about why the feds didn't move sooner to address the coronavirus epidemic when it was percolating in China early this year.
Trump doesn't read every single line in the PDB, so they slip an unactionable unverified intelligence assessment in about Russians paying bounties, knowing that the briefer won't include it in the oral brief. Then run screaming to the NYT that trump is colluding with the Russians to get American soldiers killed. Tries to make a case that Trump is still on the side of the Russians, and doesn't care about our military, and is inept by not reading the entire PDB.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (EgshT)
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Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 11:52 AM (Do5/p)
So you are saying the Mariners have a chance?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death
Fat Chance.
So you are saying the Mariners have a chance?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death
Fat Chance.
Posted by: Diogenes at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (axyOa)
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Don't....don't look in Seattle. Trust me. I plumbed that well.
He just said he wanted slutty, not sane, clean, or pleasant
He just said he wanted slutty, not sane, clean, or pleasant
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (bkUtD)
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This is of course somewhat personal to me. I've always been aghast about aborting people with disabilities. But when my daughter was diagnosed with Dandy-Walker, it got very real. I was dealing with a team of doctors at a Children's Hospital, and while many doctors may be gung-ho for MOAR ABORSHUNZ, these guys are sort of in the opposite business.
So, while none of them urged us to abort - quite the opposite - they all went through the pro-forma legal obligation to mention that it's "an option," as they put it.
That was when it really struck me - at some point along the line, Americans went from "Eugenics are abhorrent" to "Eugenics is totes cool. It's 'an option.'"
Makes we wonder why even bothered defeating Naziism.
This is of course somewhat personal to me. I've always been aghast about aborting people with disabilities. But when my daughter was diagnosed with Dandy-Walker, it got very real. I was dealing with a team of doctors at a Children's Hospital, and while many doctors may be gung-ho for MOAR ABORSHUNZ, these guys are sort of in the opposite business.
So, while none of them urged us to abort - quite the opposite - they all went through the pro-forma legal obligation to mention that it's "an option," as they put it.
That was when it really struck me - at some point along the line, Americans went from "Eugenics are abhorrent" to "Eugenics is totes cool. It's 'an option.'"
Makes we wonder why even bothered defeating Naziism.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (oJN+m)
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nutshell - younger ppl (30s) get cough or cold, are told to get tested, yes they have Kung Flu but it's mild
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/
1277773122301804546
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (WwTwF)
Better lock everything the fuck down, then.
- Greg Abbott
nutshell - younger ppl (30s) get cough or cold, are told to get tested, yes they have Kung Flu but it's mild
https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/
1277773122301804546
Posted by: vmom 2020 - anti Brutal Looting Marxists at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (WwTwF)
Better lock everything the fuck down, then.
- Greg Abbott
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (Zz0t1)
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He just said he wanted slutty, not sane, clean, or pleasant
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (KZzsI)
Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:01 PM (KZzsI)
Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (NWiLs)
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Once you can murder an infant in the mother's womb, you are capable of any other immoral act, large or small.
Posted by: navybrat, at large at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (w7KSn)
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How often did Obama read the PDB?
I'll guess- never.
But now it is suddenly the most interesting, importantest document ever, and the president is negligent by not reading every word of it with his morning coffee.
I'll guess- never.
But now it is suddenly the most interesting, importantest document ever, and the president is negligent by not reading every word of it with his morning coffee.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (dNzKv)
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That
wont ever work and will only make your position that much more alien to
the be try people you are trying to reach.
Translating from concern Troll into English: "Your argument is powerful, will change minds, and I have to do everything I can to keep you from saying that."
wont ever work and will only make your position that much more alien to
the be try people you are trying to reach.
Translating from concern Troll into English: "Your argument is powerful, will change minds, and I have to do everything I can to keep you from saying that."
Posted by: An Observation at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (SlJdk)
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Sanger saw hordes of diseased, poorly cared for children who physically suffered.
She decided they were better off dead.
I'm sure she felt virtuous about that.
Deciding that others are better off dead isn't virtue. It's evil.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (Rz2QO)
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So the prototypical Karen.
She decided they were better off dead.
I'm sure she felt virtuous about that.
Deciding that others are better off dead isn't virtue. It's evil.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (Rz2QO)
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So the prototypical Karen.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (pw+jk)
388
I tried a condom once. Fuck that, I'd rather go without a shower as take one in a raincoat.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (o2MD2)
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They said they would stop chasing him after 5%, but they didn't stop until a full 6%.
George Lucas doesn't understand numbers.
Love the movie, though.
Same here. Had to sit through it twice in order to "get it." Thanks very much to the movie theater employee who saw me sit through it and didn't say anything or make me leave.
Lucas only made 3 flix that were any good, IMO. TXH1138 (his senior thesis flick, IIRC), American Graffiti and Star Wars: The Only Good One. It was pretty much downhill after that.
George Lucas doesn't understand numbers.
Love the movie, though.
Same here. Had to sit through it twice in order to "get it." Thanks very much to the movie theater employee who saw me sit through it and didn't say anything or make me leave.
Lucas only made 3 flix that were any good, IMO. TXH1138 (his senior thesis flick, IIRC), American Graffiti and Star Wars: The Only Good One. It was pretty much downhill after that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (HaL55)
390
Ah. I assume it is machinery of some kind? Some type of whiz-bang tanning booth?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Its like a car wash and ya walk through naked.
Posted by: JT
Taint much.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!)
Its like a car wash and ya walk through naked.
Posted by: JT
Taint much.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (zfBZT)
391
>>>Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Not at all. Antibiotics are plentiful on the land of milk and honey!
Not at all. Antibiotics are plentiful on the land of milk and honey!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (bkUtD)
392
>>Tries to make a case that Trump is still on the side of the Russians, and doesn't care about our military, and is inept by not reading the entire PDB.
Only problem is that it was never in the PDB according to the IC.
Only problem is that it was never in the PDB according to the IC.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (EgshT)
394
Once you can murder an infant in the mother's womb, you are capable of any other immoral act, large or small.
Posted by: navybrat, at large at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (w7KSn)
Not just murder an infant in the womb, but be flippant and arrogant about it.
Posted by: navybrat, at large at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (w7KSn)
Not just murder an infant in the womb, but be flippant and arrogant about it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (dNzKv)
395
There's a crapload of anecodotal evidence that the Wuhan Flu testing is giving a lot of false positives. That the tests come already showing positive, that people who show up and sign up, but leave because of the immense waiting period later are told the tested positive, etc.
Look, the perception is that Trump won last time because of three things: Rallys, Social Media, and TV time. So they are choking him out of all three, no matter what it costs them.
Look, the perception is that Trump won last time because of three things: Rallys, Social Media, and TV time. So they are choking him out of all three, no matter what it costs them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)
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391 >>>Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Not at all. Antibiotics are plentiful on the land of milk and honey!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (bkUtD)
I was thinking in terms of soap and water.
Not at all. Antibiotics are plentiful on the land of milk and honey!
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (bkUtD)
I was thinking in terms of soap and water.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (NWiLs)
397
>>I agree, that is one of my favorite movies. A relatively unknown sci-fi classic, it didn't get a lot of attention because it's power is far too intellectual. No Michael Bay explosions of any kind.
Yes, one of my favorites, too.
However, another great pro-life movie is. . . Michael Bay's "The Island." It's more stealth because of the typical fast cars, hot lead actress, and explosions stuff.
Yes, one of my favorites, too.
However, another great pro-life movie is. . . Michael Bay's "The Island." It's more stealth because of the typical fast cars, hot lead actress, and explosions stuff.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (bDqIh)
398
That's the consensus, and you could drive a death star between reality and how many Euros see America, but yeah, if push comes to shove, I think we'd be on the opposite side of most of Europe in a global war.
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)
I took the family to Europe for three weeks a couple of years ago and had a great time (France, UK, Spain, Portugal). The Portuguese were the most friendly and hospitable. I remember chatting with a barkeep who was envious of me being an American due to low taxes.
Most other Europeans were quite welcoming (even the Parisians!), which I didn't expect. the surprising thing was in Spain- anytime i spoke spanish to the locals (high school and some college spanish- very rusty) I almost ALWAYS got a shocked look when i told them I was an American. They thought i was french or something else- but never a Yank. I made it a point to say, "Well, all Americans are as good looking, well mannered and friendly as me."
Hey, I do what i can for 'Merica!
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (xyImL)
I think what you describe is a fairly common experience. Individual Americans are treated with warmth and respect, and then the Euros, if they think about it at all, they just assume the sister-f**king racists are just too poor and stupid to come to Europe.
So you're one of the "good ones."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 11:55 AM (hku12)
I took the family to Europe for three weeks a couple of years ago and had a great time (France, UK, Spain, Portugal). The Portuguese were the most friendly and hospitable. I remember chatting with a barkeep who was envious of me being an American due to low taxes.
Most other Europeans were quite welcoming (even the Parisians!), which I didn't expect. the surprising thing was in Spain- anytime i spoke spanish to the locals (high school and some college spanish- very rusty) I almost ALWAYS got a shocked look when i told them I was an American. They thought i was french or something else- but never a Yank. I made it a point to say, "Well, all Americans are as good looking, well mannered and friendly as me."
Hey, I do what i can for 'Merica!
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 12:00 PM (xyImL)
I think what you describe is a fairly common experience. Individual Americans are treated with warmth and respect, and then the Euros, if they think about it at all, they just assume the sister-f**king racists are just too poor and stupid to come to Europe.
So you're one of the "good ones."
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (pw+jk)
400
Not just murder an infant in the womb, but be flippant and arrogant about it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (dNzKv)
How about baiting your crab pots with them?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (dNzKv)
How about baiting your crab pots with them?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (o2MD2)
401
>>it's a good movie with excellent world-building (and,
sadly, the narration that comes with such an effort done in one movie, Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (hYcqw)
It also amply demonstrates that, while he may have been a gifted wordsmith, Gore Vidal was an incredibly shitty actor.
sadly, the narration that comes with such an effort done in one movie, Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (hYcqw)
It also amply demonstrates that, while he may have been a gifted wordsmith, Gore Vidal was an incredibly shitty actor.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (yvnmY)
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (bkUtD)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (HaL55)
404
Only problem is that it was never in the PDB according to the IC.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
"Sources" say it was specifically in the Feb 27 brief. And now Bolton suddenly remembers he held an entire briefing for Trump in March 2019! about it.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (ZLI7S)
"Sources" say it was specifically in the Feb 27 brief. And now Bolton suddenly remembers he held an entire briefing for Trump in March 2019! about it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (dNzKv)
405
For me, in the situations I've seen, my decision depends on the question, is there any chance of this person recovering to the point that they can maintain their life themselves?
Guy in my state, a couple years ago, fell out of a tree stand. Completely paralyzed and apparently life support as well - but 100% awake. Insisted on euthanasia - and eventually got it.
Not right to make that guy live a life he does not want. Not in my book. Most importantly - not in his.
Guy in my state, a couple years ago, fell out of a tree stand. Completely paralyzed and apparently life support as well - but 100% awake. Insisted on euthanasia - and eventually got it.
Not right to make that guy live a life he does not want. Not in my book. Most importantly - not in his.
Posted by: The Center Does Not Hold at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (DKgtk)
406
388 I tried a condom once. Fuck that, I'd rather go without a shower as take one in a raincoat.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (o2MD2)
Eh. Like anything, you get used to it.
The reduced sensation is good when you're young for....reasons.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (o2MD2)
Eh. Like anything, you get used to it.
The reduced sensation is good when you're young for....reasons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (ifmtJ)
407
How about baiting your crab pots with them?
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (o2MD2)
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"Mash Goes to Maine" was mentioned on the book thread.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (o2MD2)
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"Mash Goes to Maine" was mentioned on the book thread.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (WEBkv)
408
. I cannot get dentists to help my mom's crumbling teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely eat, she's so old now anyway
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
You live in the wrong part of the country. Just across the river from Yuma, in Mexico, are a large number of dental clinics that cater to the over-70 crowd, coming down from the retirement communities around Phoenix. Dentures, implants, crowns, anything anybody wants, they'll do it pretty cheaply.
Although I suspect their motto is "hey it only has to a few years."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
You live in the wrong part of the country. Just across the river from Yuma, in Mexico, are a large number of dental clinics that cater to the over-70 crowd, coming down from the retirement communities around Phoenix. Dentures, implants, crowns, anything anybody wants, they'll do it pretty cheaply.
Although I suspect their motto is "hey it only has to a few years."
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (Kpl3J)
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403 Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Properly speld tattoooes are also good.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (HaL55)
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"Your name is Bernda?"
"Brenda."
Properly speld tattoooes are also good.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (HaL55)
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"Your name is Bernda?"
"Brenda."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (LvTSG)
410
Only problem is that it was never in the PDB according to the IC.
Yeah it was one of those "we got a report that this is happening but cannot find any evidence or reason to confirm it" things, so it was put in a pile and left out of any serious report.
But that doesn't really matter does it? The narrative is out there and the left is screaming it every opportunity. And as proven by the Iraq war, if the left screams something loud and long enough, everyone -- even people here -- start to believe it, and repeat it.
Yeah it was one of those "we got a report that this is happening but cannot find any evidence or reason to confirm it" things, so it was put in a pile and left out of any serious report.
But that doesn't really matter does it? The narrative is out there and the left is screaming it every opportunity. And as proven by the Iraq war, if the left screams something loud and long enough, everyone -- even people here -- start to believe it, and repeat it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (KZzsI)
411
Not just murder an infant in the womb, but be flippant and arrogant about it.
and sell the corpses to buy themselves goodies
and sell the corpses to buy themselves goodies
Posted by: BlackOrchidOfPrivilege at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (j9HX3)
412
"Sources" say it was specifically in the Feb 27 brief. And now Bolton suddenly remembers he held an entire briefing for Trump in March 2019! about it.
Mar. 2019?
"Sources" say it was specifically in the Feb 27 brief. And now Bolton suddenly remembers he held an entire briefing for Trump in March 2019! about it.
Mar. 2019?
Posted by: It's me donna at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (Zmnko)
413
>>"Sources" say it was specifically in the Feb 27 brief. And now Bolton suddenly remembers he held an entire briefing for Trump in March 2019! about it.
Yep. And people with real names are saying it was never presented to Trump because it was low level chatter than couldn't be verified so it never went anywhere.
Yep. And people with real names are saying it was never presented to Trump because it was low level chatter than couldn't be verified so it never went anywhere.
Posted by: JackStraw at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)
414
>>Look, the perception is that Trump won last time
because of three things: Rallys, Social Media, and TV time. So they
are choking him out of all three, no matter what it costs them. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)
That's *a* perception. It's not remotely close to my perception of the reasons for his win.
because of three things: Rallys, Social Media, and TV time. So they
are choking him out of all three, no matter what it costs them. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)
That's *a* perception. It's not remotely close to my perception of the reasons for his win.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (ZS9TG)
415
Assuming that the Times is right
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I do not understand those words in that order.
That's allapundit for you. I don't believe it but... if true!!! ORANGEMANBAD!
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I do not understand those words in that order.
That's allapundit for you. I don't believe it but... if true!!! ORANGEMANBAD!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (dNzKv)
416
>>I cannot get dentists to help my mom's crumbling
teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely
eat, she's so old now anyway Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
My mom is 99. She gets great care. They've all met me and understand that her comfort and health are of the utmost importance TO ME. In fact, if I sense any waffling, I'll need them to write their withholding of care on her chart, show it to me and sign it. I will take a picture.
We never have to get that far.
Learned that trick from a woman who had a baby who had had a stoke in utero. She was a honey badger getting him proper care.
Works like a charm. But you have to be confrontational. Not everyone is comfortable with that.
I don't even alter my tone.
teeth because she's in her 80s and, well, who cares if she can barely
eat, she's so old now anyway Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 11:56 AM (KZzsI)
My mom is 99. She gets great care. They've all met me and understand that her comfort and health are of the utmost importance TO ME. In fact, if I sense any waffling, I'll need them to write their withholding of care on her chart, show it to me and sign it. I will take a picture.
We never have to get that far.
Learned that trick from a woman who had a baby who had had a stoke in utero. She was a honey badger getting him proper care.
Works like a charm. But you have to be confrontational. Not everyone is comfortable with that.
I don't even alter my tone.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (Rz2QO)
417
So you are saying the Mariners have a chance?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (k/TB6)
When the Browns make the Super Bowl.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at June 30, 2020 11:54 AM (k/TB6)
When the Browns make the Super Bowl.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (X/Pw5)
418
Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (NWiLs)
Damn.......But I have cake!
Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 12:02 PM (NWiLs)
Damn.......But I have cake!
Posted by: Lena Dunham at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (Zz0t1)
419
403 Basic hygiene is a requirement.
Properly speld tattoooes are also good.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (HaL55)
No regerts!
Properly speld tattoooes are also good.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - Who can fight the beast? Revelation 13:4 at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (HaL55)
No regerts!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (NWiLs)
420
The reduced sensation is good when you're young for....reasons.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,
So does reciting the '62 Yankees lineup and batting averages.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards,
So does reciting the '62 Yankees lineup and batting averages.
Posted by: rickb223 at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (zfBZT)
421
New thread - Ace is awake!
Posted by: gdgm+ at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (ExnWy)
422
That's allapundit for you. I don't believe it but... if true!!! ORANGEMANBAD!
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (dNzKv)
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You're saying Allpundit's decision tree about truthiness goes something like this:
Orangeman bad: True
Makes the left look bad: False
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (dNzKv)
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You're saying Allpundit's decision tree about truthiness goes something like this:
Orangeman bad: True
Makes the left look bad: False
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (WEBkv)
423
Its like a car wash and ya walk through naked.
I need one of those.
Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (EgshT)
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We are going to need a bigger car wash... much bigger.
I need one of those.
Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at June 30, 2020 12:03 PM (EgshT)
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We are going to need a bigger car wash... much bigger.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (pw+jk)
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397 >>I agree, that is one of my favorite movies. A relatively unknown sci-fi classic, it didn't get a lot of attention because it's power is far too intellectual. No Michael Bay explosions of any kind.
Yes, one of my favorites, too.
However, another great pro-life movie is. . . Michael Bay's "The Island." It's more stealth because of the typical fast cars, hot lead actress, and explosions stuff.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (bDqIh)
Ah, the unauthorized remake of Parts: The Clonus Horror.
Yes, one of my favorites, too.
However, another great pro-life movie is. . . Michael Bay's "The Island." It's more stealth because of the typical fast cars, hot lead actress, and explosions stuff.
Posted by: Lizzy at June 30, 2020 12:04 PM (bDqIh)
Ah, the unauthorized remake of Parts: The Clonus Horror.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (ifmtJ)
425
Not right to make that guy live a life he does not want. Not in my book. Most importantly - not in his.
Posted by: The Center Does Not Hold at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (DKgtk)
Removing life support = euthanasia seems unwise and an idiosyncratic position.
Posted by: The Center Does Not Hold at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (DKgtk)
Removing life support = euthanasia seems unwise and an idiosyncratic position.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (gYDp4)
426
"Sources" say it was specifically in the Feb 27 brief. And now Bolton suddenly remembers he held an entire briefing for Trump in March 2019! about it.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (dNzKv)
Did Bolton even notice that's a full year before anybody else claims that Trump was briefed? It's like Bolton didn't even bother to read the cliff notes on this thing.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at June 30, 2020 12:05 PM (dNzKv)
Did Bolton even notice that's a full year before anybody else claims that Trump was briefed? It's like Bolton didn't even bother to read the cliff notes on this thing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (Kpl3J)
427
That's *a* perception. It's not remotely close to my perception of the reasons for his win.
I agree, but it was his campaign style, and they are choking that off. Will Trump find another way to reach out? I dunno what the future holds. But they are doing their best to make him unable to run for president, then fix the election with mail in ballots.
I agree, but it was his campaign style, and they are choking that off. Will Trump find another way to reach out? I dunno what the future holds. But they are doing their best to make him unable to run for president, then fix the election with mail in ballots.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)
428
The China flu has taught me one thing.
Never get talked into going to a nursing home if at all possible.
Rather live out my days in my car.
I will have more of them.
Never get talked into going to a nursing home if at all possible.
Rather live out my days in my car.
I will have more of them.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (dMoB0)
429
Three MLB players have announced they will sit out 2020. Will more follow
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Oh, no, Br'er Fox! Don't throw me into the briar patch!
Posted by: Br'er Rabbit at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)
Personally I hope MLB dies a miserable death, but I'm curious, what's the point of individual players sitting out the season?
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Oh, no, Br'er Fox! Don't throw me into the briar patch!
Posted by: Br'er Rabbit at June 30, 2020 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)
Personally I hope MLB dies a miserable death, but I'm curious, what's the point of individual players sitting out the season?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Flyover at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (Rbu5d)
431
Because the alternative is surrender. To surrender is to die.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
Damn. When you put it like that... Shawshank Redemption had the line "get busy living or get busy dying." Similar sentiment, I think. I've been busy dying too long and want to get busy living. It's late in the game, yes. Very late. But there's still time left.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (NWiLs)
Keep on truckin'!
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 11:38 AM (Fc5rx)
Damn. When you put it like that... Shawshank Redemption had the line "get busy living or get busy dying." Similar sentiment, I think. I've been busy dying too long and want to get busy living. It's late in the game, yes. Very late. But there's still time left.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at June 30, 2020 11:40 AM (NWiLs)
Keep on truckin'!
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (VrNz6)
432
Let me bang a drum again in the hopes that it might in some infinitesimal way get to someone who might actually be involved in the President's messaging.
What if Biden drops out in October? Then "white horse" candidate, no debates with DJT because "too late" and "too much to do" and then a pure media campaign.
In that scenario, which I consider likely, and already planned, all the negative attacks against "sleepy, demented etc Joe" come to naught --and will be exploited as just another example of Trump being "vicious, attacking" etc.
Obvioulsy PDT hasn't gotten to where he is by avoiding fights, but I see a Rope a Dope coming of epic proportions in which PDT punches himself out against Sleepy Joe who he wont' even be running against come November.
The answer, such as it is: The President, and ALL of us, need to get our positive message out there, and the choices. Promote the indispensible value and exceptional nature of America, and how this election is a referendum on whether you believe in America and want to help our Republic succeed or want to tear it down out of bitterness and misguided racial obsessions.
Not incidentally, in my focus group of two teenaged boys: one pretty damned conservative and the other an indepdendent type, but very thoughtful (Joe Rogan fan etc) both were and are much more receptive to pro America ideas than the idea of always slamming the left. For example, they want to turn off Mark Levin but will listen closely to a Dennis Prager or Brian Kilmeade.
What if Biden drops out in October? Then "white horse" candidate, no debates with DJT because "too late" and "too much to do" and then a pure media campaign.
In that scenario, which I consider likely, and already planned, all the negative attacks against "sleepy, demented etc Joe" come to naught --and will be exploited as just another example of Trump being "vicious, attacking" etc.
Obvioulsy PDT hasn't gotten to where he is by avoiding fights, but I see a Rope a Dope coming of epic proportions in which PDT punches himself out against Sleepy Joe who he wont' even be running against come November.
The answer, such as it is: The President, and ALL of us, need to get our positive message out there, and the choices. Promote the indispensible value and exceptional nature of America, and how this election is a referendum on whether you believe in America and want to help our Republic succeed or want to tear it down out of bitterness and misguided racial obsessions.
Not incidentally, in my focus group of two teenaged boys: one pretty damned conservative and the other an indepdendent type, but very thoughtful (Joe Rogan fan etc) both were and are much more receptive to pro America ideas than the idea of always slamming the left. For example, they want to turn off Mark Levin but will listen closely to a Dennis Prager or Brian Kilmeade.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (koNhm)
433
I read a lot of sci-fi.
Any moderately advanced space-faring civilization will have eliminated physical needs scarcity-- unlimited energy and resources.
AI robots-- self-aware or not-- will run everything.
So the only true rarity, scarcity remaining would be life.
Your alien would value a living human over an entire planet made of gold.
But, even from an economics perspective-- nothing has value unless someone else values it.
Life, then, has no value unless we value it.
We value gold more than life.
Killing baby human lives is a horror any other species would sentence us to extermination for committing.
But the "I f**king love science" crowd thinks aliens would be super impressed with their use of the metric system over the imperial.
Any moderately advanced space-faring civilization will have eliminated physical needs scarcity-- unlimited energy and resources.
AI robots-- self-aware or not-- will run everything.
So the only true rarity, scarcity remaining would be life.
Your alien would value a living human over an entire planet made of gold.
But, even from an economics perspective-- nothing has value unless someone else values it.
Life, then, has no value unless we value it.
We value gold more than life.
Killing baby human lives is a horror any other species would sentence us to extermination for committing.
But the "I f**king love science" crowd thinks aliens would be super impressed with their use of the metric system over the imperial.
Posted by: RoyalOil at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (wxle/)
434
The Taliban hates Russia far more than it hates the US and Russia has nothing to gain by killing US soldiers in Afghanistan. Also, the Taliban needs no incentive to kill Americans.
The entire story is so laughably improbable that only a leftist would present it.
The entire story is so laughably improbable that only a leftist would present it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (xfb67)
435
When the Browns make the Super Bowl.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (X/Pw5)
Thanks for your support! I'll be your hero!!!
When the Browns make the Super Bowl.
Posted by: BignJames at June 30, 2020 12:06 PM (X/Pw5)
Thanks for your support! I'll be your hero!!!
Posted by: Baker Mayfield at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (Zz0t1)
436
The Babylon Bee analyzed the recent USSC ruling:
Supreme Court Rules That States Cannot Place Undue Burden On Abortion Providers' Right To Make Tons Of Money Off Killing Babies
Supreme Court Rules That States Cannot Place Undue Burden On Abortion Providers' Right To Make Tons Of Money Off Killing Babies
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (+y/Ru)
437
The reduced sensation is good when you're young for....reasons.
That's why I never understood the circumcision makes it less sensitive complaint. Never met an insensitive dick, albeit my exposure is limited.
That's why I never understood the circumcision makes it less sensitive complaint. Never met an insensitive dick, albeit my exposure is limited.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (Rz2QO)
438
You wanna off yourself, fine.
Do it yourself. I am not your mother.
Do it yourself. I am not your mother.
Posted by: The Man from Athens at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (dMoB0)
439
430
Western Culture: Aw, all the other cultures kill their babies!!
God: I give you a better way...
Posted by: Flyover at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (Rbu5d)
Moloch: crap.
Western Culture: Aw, all the other cultures kill their babies!!
God: I give you a better way...
Posted by: Flyover at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (Rbu5d)
Moloch: crap.
Posted by: Flyover at June 30, 2020 12:10 PM (Rbu5d)
440
Never met an insensitive dick, albeit my exposure is limited.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (Rz2QO)
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How you doin?
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (Rz2QO)
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How you doin?
Posted by: Andrew Dice Clay at June 30, 2020 12:10 PM (WEBkv)
441
The Taliban hates Russia far more than it hates the US and Russia has nothing to gain by killing US soldiers in Afghanistan. Also, the Taliban needs no incentive to kill Americans.
The entire story is so laughably improbable that only a leftist would present it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (xfb67)
Adam Schiff has plenty of evidence to prove Trump is owned by Putin and is a HUGE fan of the Taliban and is so mad that the south lost the Civil War.
You just wait, you deplorable.
The entire story is so laughably improbable that only a leftist would present it.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at June 30, 2020 12:09 PM (xfb67)
Adam Schiff has plenty of evidence to prove Trump is owned by Putin and is a HUGE fan of the Taliban and is so mad that the south lost the Civil War.
You just wait, you deplorable.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at June 30, 2020 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)
442
nood cookery
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Never Kneel, Free WA, Buy Ammo at June 30, 2020 12:11 PM (ifmtJ)
443
Adam Schiff has plenty of evidence to prove Trump is owned by Putin and is a HUGE fan of the Taliban and is so mad that the south lost the Civil War.
You just wait, you deplorable.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at June 30, 2020 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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Nancy, your shrill partisan projection is showing again. Along with the dementia that rivals Joe's.
You just wait, you deplorable.
Posted by: Nancy Pelosi at June 30, 2020 12:10 PM (Zz0t1)
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Nancy, your shrill partisan projection is showing again. Along with the dementia that rivals Joe's.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at June 30, 2020 12:12 PM (WEBkv)
444
>>>Posted by: Baker Mayfield
That douche stated he would be kneeling for the Anthem this season. So F him.
That douche stated he would be kneeling for the Anthem this season. So F him.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at June 30, 2020 12:12 PM (VWp7G)
445
Supreme Court Justice who ended a sentence with a preposition! She needs to be replaced!
Posted by: Diogenes
***********
Improper use of a comma:
Let's eat, Grandma Ruth.
Let's eat Grandma Ruth.
Posted by: Diogenes
***********
Improper use of a comma:
Let's eat, Grandma Ruth.
Let's eat Grandma Ruth.
Posted by: Muldoon at June 30, 2020 12:12 PM (Fc5rx)
446
Did somebody say vegetative state?
Posted by: Almost-Zombie RBG at June 30, 2020 12:12 PM (EgshT)
447
>>I agree, but it was his campaign style, and they are
choking that off. Will Trump find another way to reach out? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)
It doesn't matter. He won because he was running against a drunk lesbian cylon with recognizably evil handlers and no master plan beyond guarding l'etat. He had a platform of simply articulated solutions to readily apparent problems. He punched back, and as Patton said, America loves a fighter. That's why he won.
Denying him his "campaign style" sizzle won't deny him the win this time. Other reasons will suffice.
choking that off. Will Trump find another way to reach out? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)
It doesn't matter. He won because he was running against a drunk lesbian cylon with recognizably evil handlers and no master plan beyond guarding l'etat. He had a platform of simply articulated solutions to readily apparent problems. He punched back, and as Patton said, America loves a fighter. That's why he won.
Denying him his "campaign style" sizzle won't deny him the win this time. Other reasons will suffice.
Posted by: Zod at June 30, 2020 12:13 PM (ZS9TG)
448
Personally I hope MLB dies a miserable death, but I'm curious, what's the point of individual players sitting out the season?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)
Fans mean nothing and they're not willing to risk a cold to entertain them.
Personally I hope MLB dies a miserable death, but I'm curious, what's the point of individual players sitting out the season?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)
Fans mean nothing and they're not willing to risk a cold to entertain them.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at June 30, 2020 12:13 PM (Zz0t1)
449
Removing life support = euthanasia seems unwise and an idiosyncratic position.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (gYDp4)
I honestly do not know the details - I assume it was simple removal but do not know.
There are some things where I'm just glad its not me, I'll mind my own business about how its handled, and would appreciate everyone else mind theirs if it is me. That situation was one of those.
Damn - go out for deer in morning - and never come back. Thats why I use a blind.
Posted by: Thesokorus at June 30, 2020 12:07 PM (gYDp4)
I honestly do not know the details - I assume it was simple removal but do not know.
There are some things where I'm just glad its not me, I'll mind my own business about how its handled, and would appreciate everyone else mind theirs if it is me. That situation was one of those.
Damn - go out for deer in morning - and never come back. Thats why I use a blind.
Posted by: The Center Does Not Hold at June 30, 2020 12:15 PM (DKgtk)
450
And as proven by the Iraq war, if the left screams something loud and
long enough, everyone -- even people here -- start to believe it, and
repeat it.
Everyone believes the military didn't find WMDs in Iraq. The DOD press release announcing that they did, was carefully ignored.
long enough, everyone -- even people here -- start to believe it, and
repeat it.
Everyone believes the military didn't find WMDs in Iraq. The DOD press release announcing that they did, was carefully ignored.
Posted by: An Observation at June 30, 2020 12:15 PM (SlJdk)
451
Regarding this Russians paying the Afghanis to whack Americans thing. While I think this is more Russian/lib disinformation, my .02 having dealt with the Afghanis personally-
yeah, they hate the Russians with the power of a thousand suns.
1.They love money more than they hate the Russians.
2. They now hate us as much as they hate the Russians.
3. See #1.
yeah, they hate the Russians with the power of a thousand suns.
1.They love money more than they hate the Russians.
2. They now hate us as much as they hate the Russians.
3. See #1.
Posted by: Secret Squirrel, author of 3 LTs of JBLM- a funny play on Amazon at June 30, 2020 12:18 PM (xyImL)
452
Still think a good part of the reason that animated advert for Black Flag, Andrew Cuomo, sent COVID-19 patients into nursing homes was to reduce New York's Medicaid expenditure.
Posted by: aelfheld at June 30, 2020 12:37 PM (IxDhF)
453
429
Personally I hope MLB dies a miserable death, but I'm curious, what's the point of individual players sitting out the season?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM
From the article I posted at #311
Zimmerman was the Nationals' first-ever draft pick in 2005 and has played his entire career in D.C. The veteran welcomed a son with his wife, Heather, three weeks ago, and started the ZiMS Foundation in 2007 in honor of his mother, Cheryl, who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1995. In a diary for the Associated Press released Friday, Zimmerman detailed his reservations about playing, the potential of getting his family sick and the reality of not seeing his mother "until weeks after the season is over." [ ... ]
Ross has not issued a statement yet, but family also appears to have played a role. His father is a pediatrician and his mother is an emergency room nurse in Oakland. General manager Mike Rizzo said in a statement that both Ross and Zimmerman decided to opt out for "the personal health and safety of themselves and their loved ones." [ ... ]
On Monday night, Desmond said the pandemic made this season "a risk I am not comfortable taking."
In an in-depth Instagram post, Desmond described how the killing of George Floyd last month in Minnesota forced him to confront his own past growing up as a biracial child in Florida. Floyd's death, Desmond said, "broke my coping mechanism. Suppressing my emotions became impossible."
Desmond discussed his frustration with the league and its lack of minority representation, and how that has trickled into youth baseball. "Right now in baseball, we've got a labor war. We've got rampant individualism on the field," he wrote. "In clubhouses we've got racist, sexist, homophobic jokes or flat-out problems. We've got cheating. We've got a minority issue from the top down. One African American GM. Two African American managers. Less than 8 percent Black players. No Black majority team owners."
Desmond wrote that he intended to stay home with his wife Chelsey, who is pregnant, and their four children, and to work with his old Little League in Sarasota.
Isn't it great that we're judging people in management positions in MLB based on the color of their skin, instead of the content of their character or whether or not they're actually good at their job?
Personally I hope MLB dies a miserable death, but I'm curious, what's the point of individual players sitting out the season?
Posted by: BurtTC at June 30, 2020 12:08 PM
From the article I posted at #311
Zimmerman was the Nationals' first-ever draft pick in 2005 and has played his entire career in D.C. The veteran welcomed a son with his wife, Heather, three weeks ago, and started the ZiMS Foundation in 2007 in honor of his mother, Cheryl, who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 1995. In a diary for the Associated Press released Friday, Zimmerman detailed his reservations about playing, the potential of getting his family sick and the reality of not seeing his mother "until weeks after the season is over." [ ... ]
Ross has not issued a statement yet, but family also appears to have played a role. His father is a pediatrician and his mother is an emergency room nurse in Oakland. General manager Mike Rizzo said in a statement that both Ross and Zimmerman decided to opt out for "the personal health and safety of themselves and their loved ones." [ ... ]
On Monday night, Desmond said the pandemic made this season "a risk I am not comfortable taking."
In an in-depth Instagram post, Desmond described how the killing of George Floyd last month in Minnesota forced him to confront his own past growing up as a biracial child in Florida. Floyd's death, Desmond said, "broke my coping mechanism. Suppressing my emotions became impossible."
Desmond discussed his frustration with the league and its lack of minority representation, and how that has trickled into youth baseball. "Right now in baseball, we've got a labor war. We've got rampant individualism on the field," he wrote. "In clubhouses we've got racist, sexist, homophobic jokes or flat-out problems. We've got cheating. We've got a minority issue from the top down. One African American GM. Two African American managers. Less than 8 percent Black players. No Black majority team owners."
Desmond wrote that he intended to stay home with his wife Chelsey, who is pregnant, and their four children, and to work with his old Little League in Sarasota.
Isn't it great that we're judging people in management positions in MLB based on the color of their skin, instead of the content of their character or whether or not they're actually good at their job?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at June 30, 2020 12:42 PM (Do5/p)
454
And while we are discussing the prospect of euthanizing/aborting all those deemed "defective", consider the following scientific fact:
It is Caucasians (white people of European ancestry) that possess the greatest number of genetic defects on their chromosomes/DNA helix. The evidence for this is not hard to see. For example, which race of people have the greatest diversity in their genes? (think hair color, eye color, etc...). Thus, from a scientific perspective, it's easy to identify the "defective" ones. And from that frame of reference, it's not hard to envision a future state sponsored mandate to exterminate all people of European ancestry.
It is Caucasians (white people of European ancestry) that possess the greatest number of genetic defects on their chromosomes/DNA helix. The evidence for this is not hard to see. For example, which race of people have the greatest diversity in their genes? (think hair color, eye color, etc...). Thus, from a scientific perspective, it's easy to identify the "defective" ones. And from that frame of reference, it's not hard to envision a future state sponsored mandate to exterminate all people of European ancestry.
Posted by: CyberCipher at June 30, 2020 01:05 PM (++/pX)
455
We really need to stop referring to unplanned pregnancies as "ruining your life" and instead help our friends and neighbors make sure that unplanned pregnancies don't ruin their lives. I kinda feel like the stigma is a lot worse than the actual rigors of parenting!
Posted by: Your mom at June 30, 2020 01:42 PM (Qqq4N)
456
Also not euthanasia, but a lot of people don't know that currently in many states, people with certain disorders and medical conditions, including Down syndrome, are ineligible to receive organ donations.
Posted by: Your mom at June 30, 2020 01:44 PM (Qqq4N)
457
Wouldn't it be a little difficult to get 20 million mentally deficient and pathologically insane leftist to the suicide chambers? Just wondering.
Posted by: Chief White Bear at June 30, 2020 02:07 PM (0icOx)
458
Excellent CBD......excellent.
Posted by: Robert17 at June 30, 2020 06:22 PM (sXFGp)
459
"Assigning a value to humanity based on anything other than intrinsic and immutable things is a slippery slope."
Genes are intrinsic and immutable. Let's assign value to humanity based on race, like you suggest.
Genes are intrinsic and immutable. Let's assign value to humanity based on race, like you suggest.
Posted by: Rollory at June 30, 2020 07:35 PM (czFDs)
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