The Occasional Fishing Thread, Circle of Life Edition [Bandersnatch]

Welcome Piscators and Piscatrixes, Nimrods and Nimrettes, and Rough Riders of all genders to the current installment of the occasional fishing and hunting and other wholesome outdoorsness thread, It’s All Connected Edition.

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One of the joys of the outdoors is its invitation to Nerddom, or the way it invites compulsive or spectrum types to explore increasingly expanding circles of knowledge. You start with the simplest question – where should I fish? Well, the fish are where the bait is. Why is the bait there? Well, if you’re a freshwater guy, it depends on whether it’s a freestone creek (water tumbles down hillsides) or a spring creek (water upwells through limestone) and the different chemistries of those waters. Then you can branch out into bug biology or geology and each of those will lead you somewhere fresh and new.

Like that pretty little feller up top. Mayflies are of the order Ephemeroptera because they are ephemeral. They get born under rocks in a stream and live 364 days as nasty little crawlies who get eaten by trout whenever they come out from under the rocks. Then they moult as butterflies do and struggle out of their bug shells at the surface and emerge as pretty, delicate, flying creatures. They fly around pretty for one day and have all the bug sex they’re ever going to have and die. Insert your own metaphor.

Of course, you have to dial in the level of nerdiness that fits you. I was on a stream once when an old guy told me that the pattern I was using was a mayfly with two tails and the kind that was hatching now has three. Thank you, Isaak Walton. You don’t have to know everything. If there’s a good shop near where you’re fishing they’ll tell you what’s going on.

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That’s from Upcountry Sportfishing’s Framington River report. If you ever fish central CT check them out.

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In saltwater – and I’m really a saltwater guy – it’s the Moon that’s important, at least inshore. In a forum like this (fishing Morons) we were talking about when to fish and one guy said I like Plum Island at dawn at low tide, particularly when it coincides with the New Moon. I said it always does. He said huh?

The tide follows the Moon inexorably. The Moon has a 28 day cycle which means that in a 24 hour day it advances the tide by close to an hour a day. So if high tide was 7:00 this morning it will be close to 8:00 tomorrow. A very handy thing about the tide on Boston, which includes Plum Island and the Outer Cape, is that high tide on a Full and a New Moon is at Midnight. Hence low tide at dawn. There are two tides a day each about six hours in each direction. So if I’ve been watching the Moon for a few days to know if it’s waxing or waning I don’t need a tide chart. I’ll catch the end of the outgoing at Scorton, then look at Bourne’s to see what it’s doing, then wander out to Nauset, it should be halfway into the incoming by then.

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Now I’m going to tell a story about how some people are just magic. There was a famous fisherman named Tony. Every local knew his truck – he called it his buggy; he called his cabin on the sandbar a camp; I think all the camps are gone now and so is Tony – and people would shadow him. He hated that and if he were on to a fish when someone he didn’t know showed up he’d point his rod straight at the fish so that there was no bend to it and the onlooker wouldn’t know he was on.

So one night I saw his buggy at cutoff #3. The way the Oversand Permit works is you can’t drive on the beach, you drive a sand road behind the dunes and enter at the numbered cutoffs. I kept going and fished at #5, #7, and #9. It was a flat calm night, There was no wind, no surf, no sounds. It was the kind of night where any fish chased any food you’d hear the the food splashing from a dozen yards away. You’d see the bait ripples on the moonlit glassy surface. I scientifically verified that there were absolutely no fish.

I stopped off at #3 just to say hi. I didn’t take my rod out of the truck, just a friendly tonight sucks chat. “Hey Mike! Can you believe ALL THE FISH!” What? Mother Eff. So the thing to do that night was to lay out a black eel-like plug and not retrieve it, just twitch it on the surface. I went back and tied on a black eel-like fly, twitched it, caught a fish on the first cast and went home.

I’m making him an honorary late Moron for tonight:


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hi mike, just want to say hello...
been fishing just about every night... had a good season so far... hope to get my second over 70#s soon... i hope i hope!!!
gotta be positive you know.
still love hunting for that first hit... i love finding those crazy fish!
when you get bored and want to do some bass hunting come on down...
hope all is well with you
take care tony
heres whats out there

‘Ette extraordinaire, the lovely and talented Nurse Ratched went outdoors with Morons.

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This was our view this past weekend at Camp Defiance.

Winston, a Dreg of Society took the shot.

We had an EPIC campfire. Simply freaking ROARING. Didn’t hit the sleeping mat until after 2.

And there was a lot of bourbon involved, and wine. And beer.

But there was mostly freedom and laughter. And camaraderie.

Then again, we’re talking about Morons.

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Moron attempt at setting up a shelter. It was raining slightly. And NO, we didn’t have the excuse of wind. I think the boy were just drunk.
And they refused to read the directions.
Like I said, it was a hoot.

And with that we move on to the raison d’etre of this here HQ, the comments section. Brickbats, praise, and fish brag pics are welcome at aoshqfish at sign gmail thing

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1 Hat trick

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2020 07:31 PM (ZCEU2)

2 Corgis dutifully called
Nice picture of the rainbow

Posted by: Skip at May 23, 2020 07:33 PM (ZCEU2)

3 Huh. Didn't try.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at May 23, 2020 07:33 PM (HuH1F)

4 That tent wouldn't pass muster at the Donner Party.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2020 07:35 PM (kVr0X)

5 It was a good weekend.
I sat in the sun most of the sunny day there.
Soaking up vitamin D.
I could hear all the little viruses clutching their heads, screaming in agony and dying in droves.
A grand time to tell the usurper of our freedom. Gaulieter Inslee to fvck right off.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 07:38 PM (d9Irc)

6 So, we have hex limbatas in our rivers like the Pine and AuSable. We have legions of mayflies on Lake Erie but I do not know their Latino name (hector?) . I do know they both require very clean water and a specific water temp.
The fish shut off the feed bag on Erie when the mayflies are hatching.

Posted by: clutch at May 23, 2020 07:39 PM (9UmRs)

7 I would like some fish and chips right now.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 07:39 PM (2DOZq)

8 Been so flooded out in Michigan since last October I forgot what fishing is.

More rain next week. Maybe a late trout season but it's probably a wash at this point.

Posted by: Auspex at May 23, 2020 07:40 PM (Xo3T0)

9 Makes me want to be outdoors - like now

Posted by: Boswell at May 23, 2020 07:42 PM (32YRo)

10 There is fishing for pleasure and then there is the Deadliest Catch.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 07:42 PM (2DOZq)

11 It sounds like a great deal of potentially subversive activity was going down at Camp Defiance. Further investigation may be in order.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 23, 2020 07:43 PM (kVr0X)

12 *sees mayfly*

Food thread!

Posted by: Wuhan Dietician at May 23, 2020 07:44 PM (VJOLZ)

13 Cicero
Who, US?
Innocent looks
shifty eyes.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 07:45 PM (d9Irc)

14 The water is a little muddy where I'm at for fly fishing, but I'm a man of multiple means, and those tasty trouts is crying out like climate change communists for a little population control. Fishing is wonderfully a year around endeavor.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2020 07:46 PM (95j/9)

15 Nurse forgot to mention it was raining the entire time we were trying to put that thing up!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 23, 2020 07:48 PM (OzQGF)

16 Columbia plateau - great time of year for camping. Rain - rare. No wind - very rare. Left Coast Dog pitch that tent?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 07:49 PM (DjiZK)

17 15
Nurse forgot to mention it was raining the entire time we were trying to put that thing up!


Posted by: Jordan61 at May 23, 2020 07:48 PM (OzQGF)

Never mind, I reread and she did!

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 23, 2020 07:49 PM (OzQGF)

18 Boat goes in the water tomorrow. Time to get fishing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2020 07:49 PM (ZLI7S)

19 Great thread bander. Thanks!

Posted by: Muad'dib at May 23, 2020 07:51 PM (M5nId)

20 I can't believe she included the phrase "read the instructions".

You put the pole ends in the grommets, you snap the clips on the poles, you have a tent.

How drunk were you?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 07:51 PM (gd9RK)

21 I think I've seen (and maybe slept in) a tent setup like that too.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 23, 2020 07:52 PM (kp35W)

22 Jordan, did you guys even get the rain fly on the tent? Glad you survived. Were you guys out near the pot holes/ George area?

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 07:52 PM (DjiZK)

23 Yes the 'camps' on Nauset are all gone and I'm not sure how much of the buggy trail goes past the public beach in Orleans . For those who espouse this climate change hysteria, the last 50 years of the Atlantic reworking Nauset and Monomoy is a simple lesson in that Nature , the ocean the tides do what they want . But as to striper , that is a beauty . Knew a guy , a chef with a Michelin Star to his credit , used to catch them on Nantucket and grill them up on an open wood fire right there on the beach .Striper is the best eating fish bar none and I include wild caught Arctic char and wild Atlantic salmon from the Bonaventure thank you v much. Striper is the best

Posted by: jaytrain at May 23, 2020 07:53 PM (eh3OZ)

24 22 Jordan, did you guys even get the rain fly on the tent? Glad you survived. Were you guys out near the pot holes/ George area?
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 07:52 PM (DjiZK)

It pretty much collapsed every time we got it up! So we finally gave up.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 23, 2020 07:56 PM (OzQGF)

25 Wife and I got a license a few days ago. Looking forward to getting a line in the water in the land of 10K lakes

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 23, 2020 07:58 PM (zUdXR)

26 The last time I camped in a tent, all we had were those old heavy canvas tents. Couldn't pack them in unless you had a mule. The wind came up and destroyed the tent. Never used a tent after that. Always found a cabin after that.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 07:58 PM (icamd)

27 It pretty much collapsed every time we got it up! So we finally gave up.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 23, 2020 07:56 PM (OzQGF)

Been there, done that. At least the wind didn't take it.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 07:58 PM (DjiZK)

28 BUTT SEX!!!!

Oh! Wait. You said BUG sex.

Nevermind.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2020 07:59 PM (yQxbm)

29 the last 50 years of the Atlantic reworking Nauset and Monomoy is a simple lesson in that Nature , the ocean the tides do what they want

There was a cutthough at Harding's, there was a Bathtub, now the Bathtub is gone and that part of South Beach is an island. Monomoy is one island. Monomoy is two islands.

I have an 1879 map of Scituate where I used to live that shows the mouth of the North River five miles down from where it is now. One stormy night in 1898 the ocean just said nah I'll punch through here instead.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 07:59 PM (gd9RK)

30 Wow, that moon and sea picture is amazing.

Posted by: hogmartin at May 23, 2020 08:01 PM (t+qrx)

31 I hope I can get a hook in the water soon.

Posted by: Diogenes at May 23, 2020 08:02 PM (axyOa)

32 >>I have an 1879 map of Scituate where I used to live that shows the mouth of the North River five miles down from where it is now. One stormy night in 1898 the ocean just said nah I'll punch through here instead.

When I was a kid living in NY, we used to belong to a club that had an island in the middle of Long Island Sound. Nothing fancy, just a dot in the Sound.

I forget which hurricane it was but some years ago the entire island disappeared in that storm. Just wiped off the chart.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2020 08:03 PM (ZLI7S)

33 And that tidal timing thing?

Better watch out cause some places have restrictions and flow from futher down or up coast and will NOT be on time.

Lots of dead/or stranded sailors have gotten caught by that.

The interval between tides is okay but not coincident necessarily with other places right up the coast in oceanside compared to further inland.

This especially applies to places like the NE American Coast with lots of bays and tidal marshes and rivers.

And there's where a good tidal chart/booklet will come in very handy.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 23, 2020 08:04 PM (yQxbm)

34 Fishing is a good way to social distance. I've been doing it for years.

Posted by: Cosda at May 23, 2020 08:05 PM (OiY/X)

35

Spent some time this afternoon replacing wheel bearings on the boat trailer. I use Bearing Buddies (Grease fittings in the dust caps) but nothing is as good as pull it apart and clean the bearings. I grease hell out of them and still only get 3-4 years life.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 23, 2020 08:05 PM (KATBx)

36 Hi Bander! I love this thread. Fishing and camping and being free.

Marine ratched used to squish mayflies and stick them on a hook with some line tied to a stick. He would pull out brown trout from the stocked lakes in the Olympic National Park. They were non native, so no limit and no license necessary.

Fresh trout over a campfire are delightful. A little lemon, a drizzle of ice oil, some salt and pepper.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 23, 2020 08:06 PM (onXlF)

37 Olive oil. Darn autocucumber

Posted by: Nurse ratched at May 23, 2020 08:08 PM (onXlF)

38 Especially when the encroaching fisherman (or fishermaid) gets one of your hooks stuck in their clothing.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 23, 2020 08:10 PM (kp35W)

39 We were near George, WA. Not the Gorge though.
The coulee wound down to the Columbia where there is a boat ramp and sundry facilities.
We were fairly sheltered where we were but there isn't a flat spot around.
There were a few rock climbers doing their thing nearby as well.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:10 PM (d9Irc)

40 I grease hell out of them and still only get 3-4 years life.
Posted by: irongrampa
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Much better than looking in the rear view mirror and noticing smoke trailing off of a axle stub.

For years I've been in the habit of touch-testing trailer bearings anytime I stop and get out of the vehicle. Having a spare set in the truck is a good idea.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 08:12 PM (dP625)

41 Very pretty picture at camp defiance.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 08:13 PM (icamd)

42 That cut trough at Harding , used to be that one could come down past Chatham Light , run SW and get in 'behind' Monomoy( in the Sound) into big shallow flats . The Bluefish loved back in there . Easy Pickings , relatively . Now...no more

Posted by: jaytrain at May 23, 2020 08:13 PM (eh3OZ)

43 Fishing is a good way to social distance. I've been doing it for years.
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I think that has been nixed by a couple of Governors. Can't have people enjoying themselves.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 08:13 PM (dP625)

44 Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:10 PM (d9Irc)

Out near Feathers, cool. We went rock climbing there a lot in college.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 08:13 PM (DjiZK)

45 Who's the watercolorist? I can't quite make out the name. That's lovely.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2020 08:15 PM (IhjjI)

46 I forget which hurricane it was but some years ago the entire island disappeared in that storm. Just wiped off the chart.
Posted by: JackStraw
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Around '38, I think.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 08:16 PM (dP625)

47 Why does every picture in this post have an alligator?

Posted by: Palindrome Paduan at May 23, 2020 08:16 PM (AHq56)

48

"Striper is the best."

I rate this,,, unpossible.
It's, you know, a bass. Might be better than a fresh water bass but, low bar.

'Round these parts we have walleye, crappie, bluegill, redear and bluecats.
Speaking of crappie, have 6 nice fillers I need to get in the hot oil for dinner.
Then out after some more.

Think I have around 130 fillers in the freezer,,, and they aren't done spawning yet.
Hoping for a couple hundred and then,,, time to wrassle some blue cats.
Minimum size limit on those in the reservoirs, 35 in.
Have fun.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 23, 2020 08:17 PM (xcF3W)

49 >>Around '38, I think.

Geez. I'm not that old.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 23, 2020 08:18 PM (ZLI7S)

50 I think that has been nixed by a couple of Governors. Can't have people enjoying themselves.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Ah, yes...Inslee in WA, at least.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 08:19 PM (X22L5)

51 Who's the watercolorist? I can't quite make out the name. That's lovely.

That's Anton Stetzko, the guy with the magic and the fish. Hard to find good images on the web, he has much better. There's better on my walls but I can't find the cord that connects the good camera to the computer and my cell phone sucks, so you get an old image I had a scan of.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 08:19 PM (gd9RK)

52 We Eromeros have tentcamped all over for years, but that tent picture is why you always have a van. Or a damn camper. Especially if you're over 29X2.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 08:20 PM (XhWtx)

53

Geez, does fillets not spell fillets.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 23, 2020 08:21 PM (xcF3W)

54 'Round these parts we have walleye, crappie, bluegill, redear and bluecats.

Child. Those are freshwater fish. All saltwater fish are superior to freshwater fish (except maybe bluefish, that's an acquired thing), but striped bass is truly extraordinary.

People will sell you something called bronzini (I'm not even going to look up the spelling) which is a farmed fish based on the inferior Mediterranean version of the striped bass and charge the beaucoups because it's Italian. (It's farmed in Croatia).

No, striped bass is the real deal.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 08:22 PM (gd9RK)

55 We Eromeros have tentcamped all over for years, but that tent picture is why you always have a van. Or a damn camper. Especially if you're over 29X2.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 08:20 PM (XhWtx)


That's why you hire "staff" my good man!

Posted by: Commissar Karl Rover at May 23, 2020 08:23 PM (6wiwL)

56 "I think that has been nixed by a couple of Governors. Can't have people enjoying themselves.
Posted by: Mike Hammer"
*****
Not in PA. They actually did a surprise early opening of trout season statewide to avoid crowds on the scheduled opening day. Of course the setup of PA fish and game commissions for the most part cuts politicias out of the loop.
Escaped last week to our camp in Maine and we can fish here too.

Posted by: Cosda at May 23, 2020 08:24 PM (OiY/X)

57 I hate the AoS sock feature almost as much as I love it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 23, 2020 08:24 PM (6wiwL)

58 A mayfly should be on the Moron flag. No mouth parts, because that's not important.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 23, 2020 08:25 PM (rKJaX)

59 So had a family get together. About 40 of us all told. There is a ballpark complex right there so we went and played some softball. A popo drove thru and kept on going. I was in the mood to give him a little shit if he stopped. Anyway, we all had a good time.

Posted by: jsg at May 23, 2020 08:26 PM (xDTPV)

60 My brother is heading up the Snake River with the guys from Pautzke Bait to do some sturgeon fishing later in the summer. He said they are going regardless if the river is open or not.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 08:27 PM (DjiZK)

61 51 Who's the watercolorist? I can't quite make out the name. That's lovely.

That's Anton Stetzko, the guy with the magic and the fish. Hard to find good images on the web, he has much better. There's better on my walls but I can't find the cord that connects the good camera to the computer and my cell phone sucks, so you get an old image I had a scan of.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 08:19 PM (gd9RK)

Oh, thanks, it's delightful.

Posted by: m at May 23, 2020 08:27 PM (IhjjI)

62 The best fish is the one in the water near you on that day.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 23, 2020 08:27 PM (rKJaX)

63 That little Mayfly is what every tie flyer is trying to emulate.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:28 PM (T1Aes)

64 Cosda @ 56- So did the fish show up on the early date or will they wait for the previously scheduled date?

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 08:28 PM (XhWtx)

65 No, striped bass is the real deal.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 08:22 PM (gd9RK)


I have several friends that catch rockfish in the Potomac. They never offer any to me.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 23, 2020 08:28 PM (6wiwL)

66 "64 Cosda @ 56- So did the fish show up on the early date or will they wait for the previously scheduled date?"
The trout were there waiting, but hitting softly. Water was still a little on the cool side.

Posted by: Cosda at May 23, 2020 08:31 PM (OiY/X)

67 This post reminds me- the movie Wall-E is a perfect comparison for what we're going through. "I dont want to survive, I want to live!"

Posted by: blinded by the douche at May 23, 2020 08:34 PM (op90J)

68 Mother Nature challenges you to survive.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:35 PM (T1Aes)

69 One thing I noticed fishing this spring was the amount of young couples fishing together. Probably the easiest way to date right now.

Posted by: Cosda at May 23, 2020 08:36 PM (OiY/X)

70 Mother Nature challenges you to survive.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:35 PM (T1Aes)


And she'll win eventually but for now I'd say you've kicked her ass.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 23, 2020 08:38 PM (qc+VF)

71 Tents. Woke up drunk in mine struggling with the zipper door before realizing I'd turned around trying to unzip the foot. Door was already wide open.

Motorcycle campout a guy tried to push a sidecar into a lake, couldnt blame him, sidecar pilot attacked him drunk nite before, but cant have that. We put him in timeout, he way so drunk he couldnt unzip his own tent.

Posted by: banned at bmw rallies statewide at May 23, 2020 08:38 PM (/94J1)

72 Of course the setup of PA fish and game commissions for the most part cuts politicias out of the loop.

I almost feel sorry for the fish. The parking lot for the stocked lake near me (a pond, really. 80 acres at most) is packed all the time.

Posted by: t-bird at May 23, 2020 08:39 PM (+aiYj)

73 Bob the Bilderberg, I keep score and that is now 2 glasses of wine and another roll of paper towels. I will collect in Oct.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:41 PM (T1Aes)

74 Mother Nature challenges you to survive.
Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:35 PM (T1Aes)


Life should be viewed as a sporting event!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 23, 2020 08:41 PM (6wiwL)

75 Didn't fish today, but I did eat fish right by the water. Made a trip down to D'oh country to see some cousins, who took me to lunch at a joint called Fish Tales. Nice to see family *and* eat in a restaurant like a normal person!

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 23, 2020 08:41 PM (OMsf+)

76 >>>One thing I noticed fishing this spring was the amount of young couples
fishing together. Probably the easiest way to date right now.<<<

You sly dog! Keep your tackle in order, youngster! It's imperative.

Posted by: Fritz at May 23, 2020 08:41 PM (95j/9)

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at May 23, 2020 08:42 PM (qc+VF)

78 We put him in timeout, he way so drunk he couldnt unzip his own tent.
Posted by: banned at bmw rallies
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Too much information.

Posted by: AZ deplorably isolated at May 23, 2020 08:42 PM (kp35W)

79 Test

Posted by: Drewbicle at May 23, 2020 08:43 PM (6hnye)

80 I almost feel sorry for the fish. The parking lot for the stocked lake near me (a pond, really. 80 acres at most) is packed all the time.


Don't feel sorry for them, stockies are the Red Shirts of fish. They're farmed and planted like the tilapia in your grocery store. They exist to take the fishing pressure off the real fish.

Pennsylvania is full of real fish, wild native brook trout in unstocked streams.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 23, 2020 08:44 PM (gd9RK)

81 One fish, two fish.

Posted by: Trollin' Uncle Joe Biden at May 23, 2020 08:44 PM (EgshT)

82 I'm not much on fishing but I will scale, clean and cook all the fish you catch.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:44 PM (T1Aes)

83 They fly around pretty for one day and have all the bug sex they're ever going to have and die. Insert your own metaphor.

All the sex you want in one day? Luxury. I had to work for YEARS to try it once.

As to saltwater fishing? I've seen things, man. Things.

But the best single night was when a school of whitefish moved into the harbor one night, and they would hit an empty hook. So we stopped to build a double hook rig, so we could catch two at a time.

With no bait. It took us 3 hours to clean them all.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 23, 2020 08:45 PM (Z4rgH)

84 I have cheated old man death and eat his sammich so many times that he hates me and holds a grudge. Probably catch up to me one day and I'll just give him the finger. Of course I'll still more than likely die but I'll give him the finger.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 08:45 PM (XhWtx)

85 QID
I remembered you'd spent time around here.
The rock climbers have been camping there throughout our shutdown. No one has bothered them at all.
We had two state troopers drive by early in the first afternoon. They didn't stop.
The tents, excepting the example shown, all stayed up pretty well. I think late attempt, in the rain and a tad too much alcohol conspired to thwart the tent builders.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:50 PM (d9Irc)

86 Eromero, anybody that's been stuck by lightning twice and walked away isn't a mere mortal to begin with.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 08:52 PM (T1Aes)

87 Anybody have a Minn Kota trolling motor? I have an old Endura that's served me well.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 23, 2020 08:52 PM (EgshT)

88 Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:50 PM (d9Irc)

Winston, sounds like you all had a good time, glad hear that. Also glad to see east side law enforcement still has some common sense.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 08:53 PM (DjiZK)

89 Sorry for the early OT Allen West has been in a motorcycle accident. At the hospital and latest report is he is in stable condition undergoing assessment.

Posted by: jsg at May 23, 2020 08:54 PM (xDTPV)

90 Of course I'll still more than likely die but I'll give him the finger.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 08:45 PM (XhWtx)


Eventually, we all lose this life, but we can still go out in style!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 23, 2020 08:55 PM (6wiwL)

91 I don't do tents anymore when camping . I use a covered hammock. Of course that is only doable when camping in a wooded area.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 08:55 PM (2DOZq)

92 Ben Had, you know the one about the guy who went before the judge for breaking in a store and stealing a ladies watch? He admitted his guilt and the judge said but you broke in that store the next three nights too. Guy says yeah my wife kept wanting to exchange that watch.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 08:55 PM (XhWtx)

93 QID
They appear to retain some sense.
Of course, we were flying an American flag over our camp. They were probably frightened by that.
I did have a very pleasant couple walk by and make conversation. They were from here, E-burg. They were trying to keep their business going and it's been tough.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:57 PM (d9Irc)

94 32 ... "
I forget which hurricane it was but some years ago the entire island disappeared in that storm. Just wiped off the chart."

JackStraw, That might have been the big one in 1938 but Hurricane Carol in 1954 could have done it. Carol did a real number on LI Sound and Narragansett Bay.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2020 08:57 PM (7EjX1)

95 Kilroy. A friend uses a covered hammock. He likes it but the sagebrush where we were is too low.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:59 PM (d9Irc)

96 I haven't lived by the ocean for decades but the local newspaper and radio station always had the tide times for the area. It was an important feature. Don't know if that still happens.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2020 09:02 PM (7EjX1)

97 Sorry for the early OT Allen West has been in a motorcycle accident. At the hospital and latest report is he is in stable condition undergoing assessment.
Posted by: jsg
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That's just plain weird. In an earlier thread, I was engaging in deserved cheap shots at Don Lemon, Tank Abrams, Al Sharpton, and etc., and I asked myself about contrasting figures, and West immediately came to mind.

A bit eerie. I mean, I haven't seen him or thought about him in months, maybe longer.

I'm betting that he has the stuff to cope with this.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 09:02 PM (830x5)

98 Winston, I'm so happy for all of you taking weekend of sanity.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 09:02 PM (T1Aes)

99 Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 08:57 PM (d9Irc)

My parents and brother are pretty much done with the WA lockdown. My dad mentioned County Commissioner Wright is short of going scorched earth on Inslee and Olympia. But that is off record.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 09:03 PM (DjiZK)

100 Few years ago I watched the CO game and fish pull up to Eleven Mile reservoir to unload a tank of small fish. There was a flock of seagulls around. The fish were a little dazed from going into a different water temperature. I doubt that 2% made it past the unloading. Fucking seagulls and CO Game and Fish.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:05 PM (icamd)

101 That is an absolutely magnificent photo with the rainbow! Congratulations, Winston!

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2020 09:06 PM (V2Yro)

102 Bander, Thanks for including that watercolor painting in the post. (How appropriate it's a watercolor.) Lovely image.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2020 09:06 PM (7EjX1)

103 I don't do tents anymore when camping . I use a covered hammock. Of course that is only doable when camping in a wooded area.
Posted by: Kilroy
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I always use an air mattress, but even at that, I don't sleep on the ground very well anymore. Getting up in the a.m. is a stiff, sore process. Only the promise of life-giving coffee sees me through.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 09:07 PM (830x5)

104 I haven't lived by the ocean for decades but the local newspaper and radio station always had the tide times for the area. It was an important feature. Don't know if that still happens.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2020 09:02 PM (7EjX1)


WRAR in Tappahannock VA still has a marine forecast as an hourly offering IIRC. They still do tides as well!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 23, 2020 09:08 PM (6wiwL)

105 Mike Hammer, where do you find an honest to G-d real air mattress anymore?

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 09:09 PM (T1Aes)

106 JTB @ 96- I used to live on the ocean and when I say ocean I mean the Atlantic Ocean. Would love to again but in order to live in Texas you gotta settle for the Gulf of Mexico. Which is just fine with me, and if I win the lottery I intend to buy a nice place say in the Galveston area and I would use it as a moron rest home. Jim NSD could do the offshore fishing and gub loss end of things. Can you image sitting on the porch smoking cigars with this fine bunch of morons? What gub did you lose? 'It was a Sten. No a Coonan! That's it a engraved Coonan.'

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 09:09 PM (XhWtx)

107 Ben Had. It was great. I only wish that more could've attended. No gunfire as the area gets a fair amount of traffic but we were well protected.

QID The county health department ordered that everyone outside must wear a cloth mask. Also, businesses are required to post signs about having to be masked.
Nope. Not going to do it. The cloth masks are just like the cloth grocery bags. Unsanitary after every use and no one washes them.
People are sick and tired of this crap.
Noted on I-90 eastbound from Seattle yesterday afternoon.
Lots of campers headed east. Even over there, people want out. So, instead of risking anything west of the crest, they drag over here. Lots of people towing boats as well.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 09:09 PM (d9Irc)

108 Watching The Pacific War in Color for the 50th time.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 09:09 PM (2DOZq)

109 60
My brother is heading up the Snake River with the guys from Pautzke Bait
to do some sturgeon fishing later in the summer. He said they are going
regardless if the river is open or not.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death

GASP!

Posted by: Gov Jay Inslee at May 23, 2020 09:09 PM (PHVHG)

110 Alan West, hope he recovers quickly. When I was much younger, I rode motorcycles, mainly off road. (good old Enduro 250!) But I knew way too many people who got messed up way too bad riding bikes on the road, I decided no way, not me.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2020 09:10 PM (V2Yro)

111 Tom
Thank you. It made for a good ending of the trip.
We had coyotes at night and awakened to owls in the morning. No snakes or bugs. Well, a few mosquitoes for those unlucky enough to attract them.

Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 09:12 PM (d9Irc)

112
Half dozen brookies, split ,broiled and eaten with salt,pepper and lemon butter.

Breakfast doesn't get better.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 23, 2020 09:14 PM (KATBx)

113

Ahhh, Camp Defiance! Home of the 3rd Kansas, right on the Missouri border. Later, grew to become the Council Grove area.

The latter became quite popular for meetings every few months between the native peoples and the white settlers. food, blankets, and women were freely traded.

The women particularly look forward to this. White women were excited to find that it was true what they say about how the native bucks were gifted. And the Indian women appreciated the white men using soap, and anal lube.

Later the Irish arrived, and all was ruined...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 23, 2020 09:14 PM (Cfuel)

114 Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2020 09:10 PM (V2Yro)


You had an Enduro 250? I just sold mine, a 1981 model. Couldn't get my leg over the seat any more. It still ran. A great bike.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:17 PM (icamd)

115 My Pimp Shot My Dealer

Council Grove, Kansas and anal lube only went together when pro-slavery Democrats invaded during FDR's America.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at May 23, 2020 09:18 PM (u82oZ)

116 Mike Hammer, where do you find an honest to G-d real air mattress anymore?
Posted by: Ben Had
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In my saddlebag. Har, har, har, har...

But seriously, gee, I don't know. Mine (I have two) are oddly, Remingtons. I've had them for years, and haven't had to patch one yet. They are classic, I guess, in that they are a sort of rubberized heavy fabric.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 23, 2020 09:18 PM (bk3Sg)

117
Wearing a mask is of questionable value but wearing a mask outside is idiotic.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 23, 2020 09:18 PM (mht8P)

118 Mrs. E and I caught a dozen fish, mostly bream with a few pumpkinseeds and a little bass in a slough off the Angelina River this past week. We threw them back because too small. No more. We will hence use the irongrampa recipe on their asses even if you can fit one on a fork.

Posted by: Eromero at May 23, 2020 09:19 PM (XhWtx)

119 Is that a Murder Mayfly?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 23, 2020 09:22 PM (aKsyK)

120 My favorite eating is about 7" brookies and some sliced taters in a skillet.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:24 PM (icamd)

121 You have not lived until you have checked the trot line after dark and held the lantern in a 12-foot john boat during a Mayfly hatch.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid at May 23, 2020 09:25 PM (Vy7tf)

122 Speckled Trout are doing well here in Gulf Coast waters.

Bonus: fishing live shrimp for specs, you've also got good odds of hooking up with a Bull Red.

Bull Red on trout-weight tackle. There's some effort involved.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 23, 2020 09:25 PM (QzJWU)

123 You had an Enduro 250? I just sold mine, a 1981 model. Couldn't get my leg over the seat any more. It still ran. A great bike.
Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:17 PM (icamd)

I had a 78 Enduro 400.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

124 Forgot to mention.

Gulf Coast tide table is a convoluted mess, when compared to West or East Coasts.

Fairly small tides in comparison, but an odd cycle.


Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at May 23, 2020 09:27 PM (QzJWU)

125 Mayflies remind me of the scene in the African Queen.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 09:27 PM (2DOZq)

126

Council Grove was partially saved after the war when many of the Irish moved to Emporia.

There, train loads full of Kansas City Faggots had immigrated to, in order to establish the land grant school the Emporia State College of Pederasty and Interpretive Dance.

Many Irish immigrants were inherently attracted to the latter, and some the former as well.

the remaining Council Grove residents were able to re-establish some semblance of normalcy and prepare themselves for the influx of German world war two prisoners soon to come...

Posted by: My Pimp Shot My Dealer at May 23, 2020 09:28 PM (lzUeV)

127 Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 23, 2020 09:09 PM (d9Irc)

Told my dad that he needs to wear a zorro mask if required. He's 83, 3 time cancer survivor and all out of fucks. Sorry to hear that the valley is loading up with traffic, but glad people are starting to wake up to Inslee's idiocy.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 23, 2020 09:28 PM (DjiZK)

128 118 ... "We will hence use the irongrampa recipe on their asses even if you can fit one on a fork."

Eromero,
When a good friend introduced me to freshwater fishing we caught a bunch of bluegill and crappie. Must have been beginner's luck for me. Most were small but we kept all but the tiniest. The rest ended up piled on a platter, lightly breaded. It was an awesome meal.

Posted by: JTB at May 23, 2020 09:29 PM (7EjX1)

129 123 You had an Enduro 250? I just sold mine, a 1981 model. Couldn't get my leg over the seat any more. It still ran. A great bike.
Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:17 PM (icamd)

I had a 78 Enduro 400.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 23, 2020 09:26 PM (2DOZq)

All of those were such incredible bikes! Mine was a '77, there's nothing like zipping along a dirt trail all out on one of those things. Those bikes were metal sculpted into Pure Fun.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 23, 2020 09:33 PM (V2Yro)

130 I sold mine to my nephews son. He cleaned it up and polished the spokes. Almost looks like a new bike. He loves it. The only blemish it has is the seat. Needs a new seat cover.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:40 PM (icamd)

131 I've done a lot of frog giggin rather than fishing. Frog legs sautéed in white wine and garlic on a wooden fire.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 09:40 PM (T1Aes)

132 Nurse,
I'm so jealous of the camping !!!

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at May 23, 2020 09:41 PM (UUBmN)

133 Never had frog legs. If you cooked them for me, I would definitely eat them.

Posted by: Ronster at May 23, 2020 09:42 PM (icamd)

134 Ronster, it would be my pleasure.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 09:43 PM (T1Aes)

135

Home fries over a grille backed up with just caught walleye fillets on the shore of a small island in Canada.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 23, 2020 09:44 PM (KATBx)

136 My cousin and I did a week of you eat what you catch or hunt. Frog legs, blue gill, meadow larks and red wing black birds. We were never hungry.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 09:47 PM (T1Aes)

137 @136

Cousin and I used to joke about backpacking and gaining weight from eating off the land.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 23, 2020 09:51 PM (KATBx)

138
Gotta sneak out for a bit.

Thanks, Bander, for the thread. Brought up lots of good memories.

Posted by: irongrampa at May 23, 2020 09:53 PM (KATBx)

139 irongrampa, ain't it the truth. There are a lot of things out there that constitute good food.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 09:54 PM (T1Aes)

140 Best tent I've ever owned is the stakeless one man The North Face Tadpole. I think ot cost me $240 in 1989. Big enough for one person and a backpack. I've kept dry in it through torrential downpours from Canada to New Zealand. Unlike other things I've owned I've taken meticulous care of this tent - now thirty years old. I've destroyed at least a dozen sleeping backs In the same amount of years.

Tents from Walmart and Kmart are great for backyard lawn camping. I'd not depend on them for more than a two night car camping expedition.

Expect to buy robust aftermarket stakes because the factory stakes are too short and bendy - the heavy 12" yellow plastic type are good.
Surveyors twine (it doesn't stretch).
8x8 plastic tarp.
The factory guy-lines are slick and waxy so be prepared to knot them firmly after staking - (the little friction tensioner on the guys will always slip and fail.)

Posted by: 13times at May 23, 2020 09:54 PM (K3B2k)

141 Fishflies we call them in SE Michigan. Vile creatures as we get them in the hundred billions around our little town. Actually have a "Fishfly Festival" every year to celebrate the horrors of the mess and stench.

Posted by: Tuff Puppy at May 23, 2020 09:56 PM (3QSHH)

142 Bander. Thank You once again. These are always such enjoyable threads.

Posted by: Ben Had at May 23, 2020 10:01 PM (T1Aes)

143 Good camping/backpacking gear is NOT inexpensive. My husband bought us Mountain Hardwear sleeping bags...damn!!! I freaked out when I found out how much he spent....

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at May 23, 2020 10:01 PM (UUBmN)

144 Mayflies were called Willow Flies by our (very large and extended) family growing up.
They would blanket the docks during the evenings at Dale Hollow Lake and the spiders would gorge themselves. They only swarmed for a short time, and afterwards they were not commonly seen.
They rest just as they appear in the photo, and you can just pinch their wings together and they will wriggle around, but they are too delicate to use as bait.

Posted by: Cluebat at May 23, 2020 10:05 PM (S8ld5)

145 And as far as motorcycles go? I've owned a few. In the mid nineties I switched from enduro riding to observed trials. I rode a 250 Montessa and my uncle rode a late 50's 350 or 500 rigid frame Enfield in ARMA competitions. Uncle won the western super senior rigid class one year. He bashed the case on something in a section and started spewing huge amounts of oil so I rode back to camp, grabbed a few quarts of oil, and refilled his case as he rode the course. I DNF'D but he took home the trophy.

Me? I sucked at it, but what fun!

Posted by: 13times at May 23, 2020 10:17 PM (K3B2k)

146 >>143

Anything dependable, lightweight and durable is super pricey. Good hiking boots are $$$.

Posted by: 13times at May 23, 2020 10:21 PM (K3B2k)

147 Good camping/backpacking gear is NOT inexpensive. My
husband bought us Mountain Hardwear sleeping bags...damn!!! I freaked
out when I found out how much he spent....

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at May 23, 2020 10:01 PM


I've been looking at a Z-Packs tent for a month chanting, "Buy once, cry once. Buy once, cry once. Buy once, cry once."

Posted by: Bert G (has a new podcast episode) at May 23, 2020 10:23 PM (OMsf+)

148 Back in the day I'd catch mayflies to go trout fishing on Lough Corrib.

Fair enough, but the best discovery of my life was a fly called "The Bloody Butcher." With that fly, I could pull trout after trout out of any river around Galway.

Mark it.

Posted by: Patrick C Carroll at May 24, 2020 01:16 AM (2D4Ga)

149 In Galway bay, when the mackerel are running, all you have to do is tie aluminum foil around a hook and dip it in the water.

The mackerel will go for any silver flash, regardless.

I remember once catching 300 in an afternoon.

Posted by: Patrick C Carroll at May 24, 2020 01:19 AM (2D4Ga)

150 Hey Patrick Carroll, I fished Loch Corrib once. I wanted to learn fly fishing but what the ghillie meant by that was catching live mayflies and dapping them from a long pole.

Cold, rain, soaked to the bones. Best part was slowly warming up with whiskey and a peat fire.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 24, 2020 11:46 AM (gd9RK)

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