Mississippi Church That Resisted Orders to Shut Down Burns Down/Explodes;<br><i>Trump Orders Governors to Treat Religious Services as "Essential Services"</i>

Mississippi Church That Resisted Orders to Shut Down Burns Down/Explodes;
Trump Orders Governors to Treat Religious Services as "Essential Services"

Is this an inside job or a false flag? Or is the left dropping all masks?

The First Pentecostal Church of Holly Springs in Mississippi burned down early Wednesday morning. The congregation had been in a legal battle to continue holding services despite the novel coronavirus outbreak and subsequent lockdown orders.
The building went up in flames between 2-4 a.m. Investigators said the church was spray-painted with graffiti before an explosion blew out the front of the building, according to Fox 13. Maj. Kelly McMillian of the Marshall Count Sheriff’s Department confirmed the fire to be a criminal act of arson.
Thomas More Society senior counsel and lawyer for the church, Stephen Crampton, spoke with Fox News about the fire and said the perpetrators spray-painted a message that read, "I Bet you stay home now you hypokrits."
"We're in a time where I don't think it's any secret that there's a growing hostility toward churches, across the board," Crampton said. "And now, here are churches like First Pentecostal that are sort of stirring up the waters by being outspoken and somewhat firm about seeking to protect their Constitutional rights."

Tim Pool covered this story, and suggested caution, which I think is appropriate. He doesn't like the fact that the arsonist left a graffiti message letting everyone know his motive was political. We've seen that sort of thing in false flag cases -- the hoaxer wants to make sure you "get it."

Also, he doesn't like the misspelling of "hypokrit." I think his idea is that this is an attempt to mislead the cops into thinking the arsonist is illiterate, when he's not.

But I see it as equally if not more likely that he is illiterate.

Also, I'd point out that while there was that one case of a false flag church burning, most of these hoax cases involve graffiti and criminal mischief, not stuff as serious as arson. Hate crime hoaxers tend to commit "hate crimes" -- graffiti, fake nooses, and fake scarf-grabbings -- and not real crimes, like arson or arson by explosive.

Anyway, I agree with Pool that people should be suspicious about the breadcrumb trail being left on the ground for us here, but I wouldn't ignore the possibility that this is exactly what it looks like: an attack on a church by some crazed leftwing atheist Karens.

(Are there any other kind?)

Meanwhile -- and maybe relatedly -- Trump decrees that church services are "essential services" and tells governors to allow churches to resume operations, or he'll overrule them.

NEW: President Trump announced that houses of worship are now “essential places that provide essential services" and said state governors should immediately allow them to re-open.

Trump said he would “overrule” governors who did not allow churches to resume services.
— NPR Politics (@nprpolitics) May 22, 2020

I'm not sure how that works, but then, I also don't know how governors decided that they can suspend the Bill of Rights on a whim. And while governors were doing that, all the media attention, and all the NeverTrump attention, was on Trump's claim that he had "total authority" to reopen the country.

They continue ignoring actual, current, real fascist actions committed by the Democrats they support in order to focus laser-like on hypothetical possible future actions of Trump.

I would note that Presidents have, in the past, used the US Marshall service as well as the National Guard to guarantee civil rights.

When schools in the south refused to permit black students to enter, in defiance of a court order, the US Marshalls were sent in to enforce the order.

There will be few judges willing to agree that leftwing governors have the right to shut down a liberty explicitly protected by the Constitution while allowing gay swinger glory hole clubs to offer.

So yeah, that's how it will happen: A judge's order, followed by the US Marshalls and maybe the fucking National Guard.

So if New York, New Jersey, Michigan, etc., want to take their chances with the National Guard surrounding and protecting chuches -- make my fucking day.

Let's get it on.

Good question:

Media: under what authority can the president demand governors allow churches to open?
Also Media: why doesn't the president force the states to close down?
— AR-14 Lizzy (@StarChamberMaid) May 22, 2020

Yes, how is it that the media spent February, March, and April insisting that Trump had the power to unilaterally order states to shut down, but now demands to know what his authority is for demanding they open up?

In fact, CNN is pushing a story today claiming that if the US had shut down two weeks earlier -- that is, if Trump had asserted a mythical ability to order the country shut down -- many lives would have been saved:

BREAKING: Everything that is good should have happened sooner thanks to the miracle of hindsight plus selective forgetting of context. https://t.co/Iec1q90EHI
— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) May 21, 2020

But he doesn't have the power to protect a right enumerated in the Constitution? Strange!

By the way, that CNN story should really be talking about New York shutting down two weeks earlier, because New York City and only New York City was the epicenter of the pandemic which then spread it to most other parts of the country.

But they don't want to acknowledge that Andrew Cuomo is responsible for murdering people -- so they change the headline to the "U.S." being late to shut down.

Posted by: Ace at 03:00 PM

Comments

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1 Second?

Posted by: Catherine at May 22, 2020 03:01 PM (+MFxJ)

2 Nood signal sent.

Posted by: Catherine at May 22, 2020 03:02 PM (+MFxJ)

3 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:02 PM (UWqZJ)

4 But they don't want to acknowledge that Andrew Cuomo is responsible for murdering people -- so they change the headline to the "U.S." being late to shut down.

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If only Montana had shut down two weeks earlier!!!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:03 PM (UWqZJ)

5 Stupid time to be alive.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 22, 2020 03:03 PM (svbBD)

6 Trump's greatest ability is to "read the room" so-to-speak, and figure out a) what the popular mood is with any crowd he's dealing with, as well as b) read his opponents and hone in on their weaknesses.

He managed to get the blue state governors to make fools of themselves and overplay their hands, badly.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 22, 2020 03:03 PM (SgjGX)

7
Tim Pool: It's complicated.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 22, 2020 03:03 PM (j4t07)

8 Penumbras, man.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 22, 2020 03:03 PM (H5knJ)

9
brb, burnin' churches

Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:04 PM (j4t07)

10 So Mississippi is literally Burning?

Again, I mean.

Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at May 22, 2020 03:04 PM (icI8A)

11
So will His Eminence Blaise Cardinal Cupich render into Caesar what isn't Caesar's or render unto God what is God's?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:04 PM (mht8P)

12 I'm thankful to live in MO right now. It's not perfect, and blue city mayors (looking at you, Lucas) have been pains, but Parson has done the best I could have expected. Now, if schools do not open and activities do not come back soon, it's game on. But since protestors have had an effect on Lucas and his stupid 10-10-10 policy, I have hope for my corner of the state.

Posted by: Catherine at May 22, 2020 03:05 PM (+MFxJ)

13 My hierarchy will wait until King Phillip (Murphy) deigns to visit us with his great mercy and compassion allows us to worship again, I'm sure.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2020 03:05 PM (+eVzC)

14 Trump's greatest ability is to "read the room" so-to-speak, and figure out a) what the popular mood is with any crowd he's dealing with, as well as b) read his opponents and hone in on their weaknesses.

He managed to get the blue state governors to make fools of themselves and overplay their hands, badly.
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He's playing a really good hand, having been dealt a bad one.

But I can see a narrative emerging that favors him in the next few months.

Posted by: MJ at May 22, 2020 03:05 PM (gAMkn)

15 There will be few judges willing to agree that leftwing governors have the right to shut down a liberty explicitly protected by the Constitution while allowing gay swinger glory hole clubs to offer.

Oh really? Hold our beers.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judges at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (+7yf7)

16 Yeah, they skip right over Democrat Governors Murder Campaign against the elderly.

You know, because they don't kill enough of the unborn already. They need to play both ends of life's spectrum. Ghouls.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (WGk5J)

17 while allowing gay swinger glory hole clubs to offer.
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Wait, where did this happen? And does anyone have their phone number?

Posted by: Barack Obama at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (WdocV)

18 These churches want us all to die!!!

Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (vtcmf)

19 11
So will His Eminence Blaise Cardinal Cupich render into Caesar what isn't Caesar's or render unto God what is God's?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:04 PM (mht8P)

You'll never go broke underestimating Cupich's intelligence.

Posted by: Catherine at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (+MFxJ)

20 This is the sort of thing that keep Evangelical turnout red hot for Trump.

But I guess we're supposed to vote for the baby killing Christian haters that want to shut down Church forever because Trump said pussy.

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (Ihsvk)

21 and Lying Media scolded Trump for talk of closing off New York ... they demanded their right to spread the contagion to other states. "We have our rights" ... to party. party on garth ...

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (Cus5s)

22 On the church arson, I am sticking with my position that all of these type of events are fake (well, I mean, the church is all burny but you know what I mean) until proven otherwise. The track record on these leads me to that conclusion.

RE: Trump having the authority to order churches open, there are at least a few court rulings already in place saying church services can go forward. If one of those orders is violated, then, hell, yes, Trump can send the Marshalls in.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (GbPPJ)

23 20 This is the sort of thing that keep Evangelical turnout red hot for Trump.

But I guess we're supposed to vote for the baby killing Christian haters that want to shut down Church forever because Trump said pussy.
Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2020 03:06 PM (Ihsvk)

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"This guy gets it."
-David French

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (UWqZJ)

24 There will be few judges willing to agree that leftwing governors have the right to shut down a liberty explicitly protected by the Constitution while allowing gay swinger glory hole clubs to offer.

Well, in fairness, for Democrats gay swinger glory hole clubs are an essential service.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (dBq3T)

25 When schools in the south refused to permit black students to enter, in defiance of a court order, the US Marshalls were sent in to enforce the order.

Ike sent in the Army. (yeah yeah federalized national guard but that is the Army).

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (pp7ze)

26 Wouldn't think a false flag. But we know Leftists are going to get very militant.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (ZCEU2)

27 If they're not voting for Joe Biden, then they ain't a church!

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (xfb67)

28 I had a comment about churches in the last thread, but I'm afraid if I repost I'll go into the barrel.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (+eVzC)

29 Cry more bitches.

Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 22, 2020 03:08 PM (UQk78)

30 Nobody escapes the Karen Inquisition.

Posted by: Karenwerfer 35 at May 22, 2020 03:08 PM (h6CJG)

31 At some point everything becomes essential.
At no point do Democrats become anything other than assh*les.

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 03:08 PM (FsgBK)

32
My hierarchy will wait until King Phillip (Murphy) deigns to visit us with his great mercy and compassion allows us to worship again, I'm sure.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2020 03:05 PM (+eVzC)

Go ahead, Fen. What can they do, arrest you? If they do I'll bail you out...

*checks wallet*

... Tuesday.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:08 PM (mht8P)

33 Trump's greatest ability is to "read the room" so-to-speak, and figure out a) what the popular mood is with any crowd he's dealing with, as well as b) read his opponents and hone in on their weaknesses.

He managed to get the blue state governors to make fools of themselves and overplay their hands, badly.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 22, 2020 03:03 PM (SgjGX)

Exactly.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at May 22, 2020 03:09 PM (dBq3T)

34 Catholic bishops are CEOs not religious (most, not all).

They'll reopen if just for the cash.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 22, 2020 03:09 PM (nRWPy)

35 As the President is the chief defender of the Constitution seems that gives him the authority.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:09 PM (ZCEU2)

36 Really, the only things that are non-essential would be government jobs.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 22, 2020 03:09 PM (Hcsoi)

37 The cops would love to be on the right side of liberty these days.

Isn't hypokrits how it would be written translating from Greek?

Maybe it's someone with heavy diplomas in Art History of the Peloponnesians and Gay Persian Sculpture of the Xerxes era?

You know. A loser. Serving up coffee at Starsucks.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:10 PM (yQxbm)

38 A standoff at a church between state police and the national guard over the right to attend church would be surreal. Governor Karen standing in the doorway blocking access would be even better.

Posted by: brak at May 22, 2020 03:10 PM (cG+eD)

39 Ike sent in the Army. (yeah yeah federalized national guard but that is the Army).
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (pp7ze)

Regular Army, not the Guard. The Guard were federalized to prevent the Governor from calling them up to resist (which I question the legality of).

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 22, 2020 03:10 PM (SgjGX)

40
Catholic bishops are CEOs not religious (most, not all).

Accountants in ermine.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (mht8P)

41 So if New York, New Jersey, Michigan, etc., want to take their chances with the National Guard surrounding and protecting chuches -- make my fucking day.

I have just had a Damascus moment and discovered my faith. Which faith it is will be the first church that opens in North Jersey. I'll go.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (gd9RK)

42 Can't decide if "hypokrit" seems like the way a liberal dipshit would misspell the word or more like the way somebody conducting a false flag op would spell it to make it look like a liberal dipshit misspelled it. I'm probably overthinking it.

Posted by: old5.0 at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (4SxGO)

43 Yeah, church arson always fake.

Graffiti also always fake

Nooses always fake

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (nRWPy)

44 RE: Trump having the authority to order churches open, there are at least a few court rulings already in place saying church services can go forward. If one of those orders is violated, then, hell, yes, Trump can send the Marshalls in.
Posted by: alexthechick

Send in the 101st Airborne.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (/tG8l)

45 34 Catholic bishops are CEOs not religious (most, not all).

They'll reopen if just for the cash.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 22, 2020 03:09 PM (nRWPy)

Iowa would take that. Their bishops have suspended sacraments, even though there is NO statewide closure order. Thank God I never had to move there.

Posted by: Catherine at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (+MFxJ)

46 I feel like lefties gin up fake hate crimes for their narrative. Why would conservatives burn down their church just to show that they are hated?? Doesn't make sense.
It seems real to me.

Posted by: Iris at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (lSFe/)

47 Thee's just zero high ground for anyone to oppose it.

If you don't feel safe at Church, don't go. Easy to solve.

Trump's not ordering Church's to open, he's saying you can't legally shut them down against their will.

Posted by: Blago at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (Ihsvk)

48 The k in hypokrit probably done on purpose to associate with KKK. Just guessing.

Posted by: iandeal at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (vgGyZ)

49 This virus may also kill climate change hysteria for a while. CO2 emissions have dropped significantly worldwide. Wanna guess what ambient CO2 concentration did?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (xfb67)

50 Top 50!

Posted by: Mr Obvious at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (5prN7)

51 I love your stuff ace but c'mon....."Tim Pool suggests caution"? I did indeed laugh out loud. Who cares. In related news, Stacey Abrams suggests moderation in caloric ingestion rates.

Posted by: Logan's Sashay at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (PQsM6)

52 If it saves just ONE life...

**douses gasoline, lights match**

Posted by: Karen, License B10D25 at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (786Ro)

53 The only way forward is an actual Crusade against the libs/fascists/commies.

Unfortunately Pope Marx ain't the man for the job.

Posted by: MAGA at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (ghf6v)

54
This entire clusterf**k is getting tiresome.

When can we start shooting?

The Chinacrats gave up on our Rights specified in the Constitution long, long ago.

We're not going back, folks.

Prepare for Plan B.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (sy5kK)

55 So yeah, that's how it will happen: A judge's order, followed by the US Marshalls and maybe the fucking National Guard.
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At this point, I'm pretty sure Springfield and Chicago are going to require military liberation.

Posted by: Methos at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (kOpft)

56 You have antifa governors committing mass murder of the elderly and infirm.

With no consequences.

There's no way their underlings would burn a church to the ground.

Posted by: Ha at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (SJDa9)

57 If your counting on judges backing the 1st amendment, like they do the 2nd. You are sadly mistaken my friend.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 22, 2020 03:13 PM (NI4rU)

58 Mississippi... Mississippi...

Why do church burning seem familiar? Oh well. Probably nothing.

- NYT

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 22, 2020 03:13 PM (ADuZP)

59 "Catholic bishops are CEOs not religious (most, not all).

Accountants in ermine."

I prefer sable.

Posted by: Theodore McCarrick at May 22, 2020 03:13 PM (m/Gc2)

60 TJM I did respond to your question at the end of the last thread.

Posted by: Ha at May 22, 2020 03:13 PM (SJDa9)

61 I'd guess the Trump order could override attempts by Governor Fascists to arrest and/or fine pastors ... I think there was at least one arrest already. False arrest ... lock up the arresting officer and ... any judge involved? then lock up Pritzker ... or lock up JaBba Pritzker first, caught using Illinois workers at his Wisconsin mansion, during lock down.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 22, 2020 03:13 PM (Cus5s)

62 People thanked Stalin for opening the churches.

I'll die in a fire before I'll "thank" a tyrant for deigning to allow me my rights.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 22, 2020 03:13 PM (+7yf7)

63 So, somewhat a OT question for techies:

Since they know it happened between 2 and 4am, do cell companies have the ability to see if any cell phones were in proximity to that church during that time frame?

Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (BHYVd)

64 Also, he doesn't like the misspelling of "hypokrit." I think his idea is that this is an attempt to mislead the cops into thinking the arsonist is illiterate, when he's not.

But I see it as equally if not more likely that he is illiterate.
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Correct.

If the arsonist was illiterate, he would have used the word "asshole", and he would have gotten the spelling correct, too.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (sy5kK)

65 Lets get it on

my goto music with the back from the bar hook up

worked 9% of the time

Posted by: REDACTED at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (UUUON)

66 It's too bad but that misspelling SCREAMS hoax/self-own.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (t+mAj)

67 Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:08 PM (mht8P)

Thanks. That's kind. I had a talk with the treasurer today. I wanted to have an outdoor service next week (Because you need to have a plan for reopening that is very detailed and ridiculous There must be six feel in the front, back and either side of congregants and the cleaninh required is immense. We are such a small church that she's afraid that if the Sneeching stiches will call the police we cannot survive if we get too many fines. Also some of the Admin Council don't want us to open till we get the clear from the Bishop. If I get too fed up
and have a service and the Fascist Kens and Karens call I will have to do a Go Fund me

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (+eVzC)

68
If you don't feel safe at Church, don't go.

All Catholics in the Archdiocese of Galveston-Houston have a dispensation from their Sunday obligation. That's sensible. But if you want to go you should be able to.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (mht8P)

69 You don't protect the individual churches, that's inefficient use of resources.

No, you deal with the core of the problem. And that means the Insurrection Act against lawless governors.

Posted by: Brother ~~Cavil~~ Tim at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (OUMaO)

70 Yes, how is it that the media spent February, March, and April insisting that Trump had the power to unilaterally order states to shut down, but now demands to know what his authority is for demanding they open up?

==

Xactly. Media was going apoplectic, insisting Tump use his magical powers to order sates what to do for 3 months. Same media that is now appalled at a simple reminder that religious institution are as important as pot dispensaries.

Posted by: runner at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (zr5Kq)

71 We're not going back, folks.

Prepare for Plan B.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (sy5kK)

Yep.

Posted by: Ha at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (SJDa9)

72 churches burning?

wait till they start shooting motherfuckers

Posted by: Steve Scalise at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (FZYNt)

73 My denomination, United Methodist, has given in to the state. The Virginia Conference hierarchy encouraged local churches to apply for PPP money and told them to close down until they said so. Sad.

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (FsgBK)

74
I have to say I love Biden's racist use of "ain't" when talking to Black people,

because as we all know, the use of "aren't" or "isn't" are wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay to confusing for Black people to understand.

Right, Joe?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (CDVfT)

75 63 So, somewhat a OT question for techies:

Since they know it happened between 2 and 4am, do cell companies have the ability to see if any cell phones were in proximity to that church during that time frame?
Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (BHYVd)

I watch all the NCIS shows, too.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (sy5kK)

76 If it saves just ONE life...
Posted by: Karen, License B10D25 at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (786Ro)

And yet in an abortion clinic that doesn't count.

Hmm. It's always a puzzle when you start examining the diametrically opposite ideas that the left maintains in their head.

It's no wonder they're all a bit crazy.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (yQxbm)

77 Lets get it on

my goto music with the back from the bar hook up

worked 9% of the time
Posted by: REDACTED at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (UUUON)

Even then, huh ?

Posted by: runner at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (zr5Kq)

78 We're not going back, folks.

Prepare for Plan B.

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Didn't someone link a local story about a sniper "getting revenge" for the national story Arbery guy by murdering a white elderly couple in a graveyard?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (ADuZP)

79 41 So if New York, New Jersey, Michigan, etc., want to take their chances with the National Guard surrounding and protecting chuches -- make my fucking day.

I have just had a Damascus moment and discovered my faith. Which faith it is will be the first church that opens in North Jersey. I'll go.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

pics or it didn't happen

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (d7Ww2)

80 >>> I watch all the NCIS shows, too.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (sy5kK)

Since I actually don't, I assume that means it was a dumb question?

Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (BHYVd)

81 Can Trump put the blue states under some election monitoring crap like the southern states are under?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (UYvk0)

82 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Better late than never.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (sGotD)

83 In fact, CNN is pushing a story today claiming that if the US had shut down two weeks earlier -- that is, if Trump had asserted a mythical ability to order the country shut down -- many lives would have been saved:
+++++++++++++
Bullshit. Level of correlation between time-to-shutdown *or* time-to-reopen in infection? Zero.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (hYcqw)

84 I'm confused as to how we know what the graffiti was. Didn't it get blowed and burnt up?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (gd9RK)

85 Scott Adams has a boy crush on Bill Gates. Anything that Bill GatesofHell says should be taken as gospel because he's soooooooooo smahhhhht.

Posted by: Miley, the ~~Duchess~~ - Hydroxy Chloro Queen and Bat Soup Nazi at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (rCwaK)

86

What's the proper way to kneel before our Democrat overlords?

Do you look at the ground, or stare straight ahead at their crotch?

Posted by: Compliant citizen at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (sy5kK)

87 Send in the Seals...

Meal team 6 vs Seal team 6.

Posted by: Pliney at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (nzKWW)

88 If you go through all the trouble of setting a fire because you think someone is a "hypocrite", then you know how to spell the word.

Granted - a super intelligent arsonist could misspell it on purpose as a double bluff.

Although a possibility, that is *far* less likely than the other thing.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (t+mAj)

89 Andrew Cuomo, what is it you said about nursing home patients in your state?

"Yes they deserved to die, and I hope they burn in hell!"

Posted by: Broseidon - Now A Scientist, Too at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (icI8A)

90
Patrick Hussion @PatrickHussion
8m
**NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (DtC4b)

91 I have to say I love Biden's racist use of "ain't" when talking to Black people,

-

Yeah, it's always interesting when a white-bread elderly man from Delaware starts jive talking.

And I'm still trying to figure out where exactly in Hawaii, California, or Chicago Barry picked up his Southern accent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (ADuZP)

92 Superfly. You're gonna make your fortune by and by.

Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (vtcmf)

93 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Better late than never.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (sGotD)

When the DOJ drops your case like a hot rock it is certainly time for some introspection.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (pp7ze)

94 At some point everything becomes essential.

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Not everything. Example: government.

Posted by: Methos at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (kOpft)

95 Posted by: Iris at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM

Agree, Prager points out no Jew in Nazi Germany ever had to fake a hate crime that they lived every day.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (ZCEU2)

96 Even then, huh ?
Posted by: runner at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (zr5Kq)

the funky ass fifties

Posted by: REDACTED at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (UUUON)

97

I would vote Left Dropping All Masks.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (Saar8)

98
In fact, CNN is pushing a story today claiming that if the US had shut
down two weeks earlier -- that is, if Trump had asserted a mythical
ability to order the country shut down -- many lives would have been
saved:
-------------------------

But I was told the shutdown was *never* intended to save lives but merely just to "flatten the curve" of infections.

Eh I'm sure the story isn't straight because of some innocent mistake, and not malice.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (t+mAj)

99
In fact, CNN is pushing a story today claiming that if the US had shut down two weeks earlier -- that is, if Trump had asserted a mythical ability to order the country shut down -- many lives would have been saved

Question CNN will never ask: How many would have been saved if the ChiComs hadn't dissembled and lied?

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (mht8P)

100 I have to say I love Biden's racist use of "ain't" when talking to Black people,

because as we all know, the use of "aren't" or "isn't" are wa-a-a-a-a-a-ay to confusing for Black people to understand.

Right, Joe?
Posted by: naturalfake at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (CDVfT)

The Southern Fried Hillary Strategy.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (guGkK)

101 dammit

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (pp7ze)

102 Since they know it happened between 2 and 4am, do cell companies have the ability to see if any cell phones were in proximity to that church during that time frame?
Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (BHYVd)
++++++++++
Yes, probably.

They also wouldn't share that information because it is for a non-progressive purpose. And they shouldn't share that information regardless without a valid warrant.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (hYcqw)

103 Isn't hypokrits how it would be written translating from Greek?

Maybe it's someone with heavy diplomas in Art History of the Peloponnesians and Gay Persian Sculpture of the Xerxes era?

You know. A loser. Serving up coffee at Starsucks.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:10 PM (yQxbm)

Spray paint doesn't come with autocorrect.

A lot of Kids These Days have handwriting that looks like it was written by a laughing gassed 10 year old with their non-favored hand.

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (BAsqb)

104 In fact, CNN is pushing a story today claiming that if the US had shut
down two weeks earlier -- that is, if Trump had asserted a mythical
ability to order the country shut down -- many lives would have been
saved:

--

Trump saved two million. How many more do they want?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (ADuZP)

105 I can't wait for Guv Pritzker's presser in a few. Pritz wasn't going to let churches open (over ten people) for quite a long while yet. And then it would only be fifty allowed, probably for a really long time.

This is great. I'd love it if Pritz and Lightfoot refuse and the National Guard is called in. Oh, that's be so very sweet after all this crap.

Posted by: lizabth at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (L3Rsz)

106 @nprpolitics
NEW: President Trump announced that houses of worship are now "essential places that provide essential services"

Next stage of NeverTrumperism is going to be outright atheism?

"The conservative case for Christian persecution."

Posted by: Hands at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (786Ro)

107 I'm gonna need to see the data on that 36K "study" that got done.

First, who says social distancing prevented ANY deaths?

How did you arrive at that conclusion? Second, if we're going to go this way, then why in the world are ANY humans allowed to go outside to do anything, ever?

After all, if it saves one life.....

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (hku12)

108 demonrats reprising their roles from the 60's fighting against civil rights ... priceless !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (cqteU)

109 pics or it didn't happen

Dude, if you saw pics you'd say no church would let me it.

I'm on week 10 of Feral Beard. It wants its own zip code.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (gd9RK)

110 >>>So if New York, New Jersey, Michigan, etc., want to take their chances with the National Guard surrounding and protecting churches -- make my fucking day.

I think the way it should go is that they would surround Governor Despot's mansion.

Or just go easy and have the Marshalls pick Ms. Despot up, in a helicopter...

...and in a desperate effort to escape..

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (1g7ch)

111 Not everything. Example: government.
Posted by: Methos at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (kOpft)
++++++++++
I disagree. Government is necessary.

Probably 98% of ours isn't, but government as a construct is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (hYcqw)

112 "So if New York, New Jersey, Michigan, etc., want to take their chances with the National Guard surrounding and protecting chuches -- make my fucking day."

Great...I saw plenty of that in Kosovo. The US really is balkanizing!

Posted by: Grimaldi at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (Of/Uk)

113 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Huh.

Executive Summary: This horse left months ago.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (guGkK)

114
If the people of America want an example of moral superiority then they should look to me and not this Jesus of Nazareth character.

Posted by: Weldon "Boof" Shithouse at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (rQ/Vt)

115 >>> They also wouldn't share that information because it is for a non-progressive purpose. And they shouldn't share that information regardless without a valid warrant.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:20 PM (hYcqw)

Thanks. And that would have been my next question.

Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (BHYVd)

116

If they'd stayed home they'd still have a church they couldn't go to!

Posted by: Karen Ginourmouscunt at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (d6DSt)

117 Absolutely no one believes the bullshit, because the day Trump started serious work on the pandemic the House Democrats were trying to throw open the borders.

Church burnings should have a full court press, but the "conservative" media is noticeable in its lameness.

Posted by: trev006 at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (49Hsx)

118 80 >>> I watch all the NCIS shows, too.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:15 PM (sy5kK)

Since I actually don't, I assume that means it was a dumb question?
Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:16 PM (BHYVd)

There are no dumb questions here at AoS, only smart-ass answers.

I believe the answer is that yes, all calls are logged real time, and that can be recalled and recreated.

Except there has to be a court order served to the carrier, and even then, they may balk and fight it.

But yes, the information is there. It would probably be rather incriminating to a certain someone who was there at the time.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (sy5kK)

119 I wonder which governor is going to be the first to decide that he ought to get in front of the parade no matter where it is going?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - A Time For Nagging - The Karen Chronicles now available at The Outrage Outlet! at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (nohVu)

120 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Better late than never.
Posted by: IrishEi at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (sGotD)
++++++++++++++
#twomonths until the FBI gets some more training.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (hYcqw)

121 the really cool thing about President Trump doing this: He's protecting an enumerated right and forcing Democrats to come out in the open and admit they hate Christianity.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (WEBkv)

122 Thanks. And that would have been my next question.
Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (BHYVd)
+++++++++++++++
They share it all the time for progressive purposes. The telcos are asshoe.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (hYcqw)

123 Dude, if you saw pics you'd say no church would let me it.

I'm on week 10 of Feral Beard. It wants its own zip code.

==

Join us, brother.

Posted by: The Amish at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (zr5Kq)

124 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Better late than never.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (sGotD)

"Find out how it was that we knowingly railroaded an innocent man! At once!"

*Rubs crystal ball* *fast forward two years*

"Mistakes were made. Those responsible cannot be fully identified, plus Strzok did it and he's already fired and we decline to prosecute anyway. Thank you, have a nice day."

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (BAsqb)

125 Government is a necessary evil.
I forgot who said that. But it's true.

Posted by: Case at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (bFzPX)

126 If I had been born two weeks earlier I would be two weeks older.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (aKsyK)

127 38 A standoff at a church between state police and the national guard over the right to attend church would be surreal. Governor Karen standing in the doorway blocking access would be even better.
Posted by: brak at May 22, 2020 03:10 PM

Could we nail her and a copy of the Constitution to the church door?

Posted by: Zombie Martin Luther at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (Of/Uk)

128 We need a system nationwide that can transport wind around the country.

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (r+sAi)

129 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

I got this one!

Posted by: James Comey at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (guGkK)

130 >>> But yes, the information is there. It would probably be rather incriminating to a certain someone who was there at the time.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:22 PM (sy5kK)

Thanks. Much appreciated.

Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (BHYVd)

131 Wray just found out that 2 fingers in the gloryhole means you want suck a cock

a budding Clouseau

Posted by: REDACTED at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (UUUON)

132 Hey, you bitter clingers can just as easily pray to your fictional sky god at home, but our fruity boys can't get their rocks off unless they're able to go in person to swingers' clubs and stick their dicks in glory holes where random dudes will suck them off. So obviously, totes essential.

Trump is hereby overruled!

Posted by: Judge Kamehahahahaha at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (k4dH2)

133 "Mistakes were made. Those responsible cannot be fully identified, plus Strzok did it and he's already fired and we decline to prosecute anyway. Thank you, have a nice day."

You forgot mandatory training on following the law for all agents, in Hawaii.

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (pp7ze)

134 "I can't wait for Guv Pritzker's presser in a few. Pritz wasn't going to let churches open (over ten people) for quite a long while yet. And then it would only be fifty allowed, probably for a really long time.

This is great. I'd love it if Pritz and Lightfoot refuse and the National Guard is called in. Oh, that's be so very sweet after all this crap."

Cupich would side with the governor and mayor and tell Trump to bugger off.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (m/Gc2)

135 somehow I doubt this level of action was required for the mosques to open

Posted by: brak at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (cG+eD)

136 RE: Trump having the authority to order churches open, there are at least a few court rulings already in place saying church services can go forward. If one of those orders is violated, then, hell, yes, Trump can send the Marshalls in.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:07 PM (GbPPJ)

Marshall's grab the Duty roster for every attempt to shut down a Church and start a Klan Act investigation, from the newest rookie to the Chief, Commissioner, or Sheriff.

Posted by: Fox2! at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (kapIh)

137
126
If I had been born two weeks earlier I would be two weeks older.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (aKsyK)
Bert,old boy, I like the cut of your jib.

Posted by: Weldon "Boof" Shithouse at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (rQ/Vt)

138
When the DOJ drops your case like a hot rock it is certainly time for some introspection.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:19 PM (pp7ze)

Mistakes were made, but we have instituted a mandatory training program, and feel certain out TOP.MEN will never do this again and is now way past time to move on and protect the American people!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (6wiwL)

139 Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Hydroxy Chloro Queen and Bat Soup Nazi at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (rCwaK)

For someone so attuned to logic and how the mind works, Adams has some astonishingly silly takes.

My favorite is his claim that there is "no such thing as a slippery slope". That every argument is judged on its own merits.

He's a hypnotist... meaning he makes suggestions and uses them to literally ride a slippery slope into your unconscious. But he doesn't think that's a thing in mass persuasion?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (t+mAj)

140 Here it is. Local story:

https://tinyurl.com/y7b7qfuw

"Elderly couple murdered in cemetery by sniper who then opened fire on first responders: “Revenge killing”?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - The left tells me Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (ADuZP)

141 You forgot mandatory training on following the law for all agents, in Hawaii.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 22, 2020 03:24 PM (pp7ze)

Why would they need training? The perpetrator cannot be identified and it was already-fired dude anyway. Everyone else is clean as pressed sheets, man.

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (BAsqb)

142 Wray isn't doing anything.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (ZCEU2)

143
I just realized the reason that Progda News isn't covering the mass killings of elderly in Blue States is because that was always part of the plan anyway.

Sorry for being so slow.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (sy5kK)

144 Don't you just love it when a govt agency investigates itself?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (NI4rU)

145 Ana Navarro tweeted something stupid and insensitive, and Fox News' Janice Dean was having none of it.

Really, Ana? Defending the Fredo Brothers?

https://tinyurl.com/ybs53pbd

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (ptqGC)

146 >>> *Rubs crystal ball* *fast forward two years*

"Mistakes were made. Those responsible cannot be fully identified, plus Strzok did it and he's already fired and we decline to prosecute anyway. Thank you, have a nice day."
Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (BAsqb)

You almost had me, until I noticed it did not include "additional training to be implemented".

Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (BHYVd)

147 I'm going to steal a bit of Ace's thunder:

Next up: The Conservative Case for suspension of the First when it comes to Churches and why they should remain closed.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (WEBkv)

148 I predict some major officials are gonna be seriously powerpointed with biannual trainings before all is said and done.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:27 PM (t+mAj)

149 Trump should have acted more like the dictators and locked everything down while he was being impeached for being a dictator. Also, he is not a dictator and can not overrule governors, but governors have unlimited power of a dictator and can overrule the president at any time.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:27 PM (dNzKv)

150 Join us, brother.

Posted by: The Amish

I'm sorry. The shaven upper lip thing is too weird even for me.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 22, 2020 03:27 PM (gd9RK)

151 Who is that press pool midget retard with a bold head, soft little hands and a miserable attitude ? Anyone know ? He is always extremely argumentative. I guess that would describe most males there....

Posted by: runner at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (zr5Kq)

152 I disagree. Government is necessary.

Probably 98% of ours isn't, but government as a construct is.
---

It's still a lot of examples.

Posted by: Methos at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (kOpft)

153 Posted by: Compliant citizen at May 22, 2020 03:18 PM (sy5kK)

The full Koutou. Fully prostrate at the first thru fourth lines.
Knock your head on the floor five times or until told to rise then proceed to the next penitent line until reaching the final line where you are allowed to rise to a kneeling, head bowed position.

You may speak only when spoken to and not look at your OverMaster. The Vizier will happily receive any "gifts" you may wish to bestow.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (yQxbm)

154 126 If I had been born two weeks earlier I would be two weeks older.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr

If my aunt had balls she would be the secretary of health for Pennsylvania

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (FZYNt)

155 Is it me or does Trump possess a razor sharp sense of timing?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (t+mAj)

156 When Trump said he had total authority to open the country, he was right and I'll tell you why:

ALL 50 states are under a declaration of emergency order at the same time. That is different from the national emergency order Trump declared about the the COVID-19 public health emergency in early March. Each of the 50 states, through their governors, had to declare a state of emergency for their state and then ASK POTUS to approve the declaration of emergency. Doing this opened up the flow of federal FEMA money to the states. But it also gives the federal government a lot of power of the states that it normally would not have but for those declarations of emergency because if the POTUS revokes and/or lets the declaration of emergency expire, there is no more FEMA money to the states.

You couple that with the Commerce Clause in the constitution, and basically Trump has total authority.

But he doesn't want to do that -- he wants the normal federal republic system to work DESPITE the 50 declarations of emergency. He is basically ALLOWING the governors to keep making the decisions.

Trump often gives the big picture and/or bottom line when he speaks, so he didn't go into all the minutia, but he was correct when he said he had total authority.

Posted by: Venus at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (iYXhj)

157 Government is a necessary evil.
I forgot who said that. But it's true.
Posted by: Case at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (bFzPX)

I have said that,

And it is best to have little as we can.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (1g7ch)

158 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Huh.

Executive Summary: This horse left months ago.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 22, 2020 03:21 PM (guGkK)

Breaking news: Captain Louie Renault orders internal review of how gambling has been going on at Rick's Cafe.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:28 PM (hku12)

159 Look up the Cristero War, aka La Cristiada, fought in Mexico in the early 20th Century. There's a good movie out there about it called "For Greater Glory."

Posted by: Pinochet's Sunglasses at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (cZqx5)

160 Really, Ana? Defending the Fredo Brothers?

https://tinyurl.com/ybs53pbd
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (ptqGC)

My question is, why do you insist on decreasing your own quality of life by inflicting the opinions of an ignorant fat chick on yourself?

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (BAsqb)

161 Inside job. The graffiti was written In tongues.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (AC18V)

162 You know, if you go to church on Sunday you're not really black

Stay home on Sunday like my old homie Corn Pop

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (qAR6u)

163 If Trump would have appointed Biden president in January, nobody would have died for any reason this year, unemployment would be 0, and the national debt would have been paid off. Not to mention, immigration would be open to all, thereby solving poverty worldwide.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (dNzKv)

164 RE: last thread

I don't think it's possible to predict the GE right now, or even estimate probabilities-- events will decide it.

Unless u r Nostradamus, who knows?

Posted by: mnw at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (Cssks)

165 Wray also announced that that whole Elliot Ness thing needs to be looked at.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (nRWPy)

166 If they want to make hay out of a pandemic, we can make hay out of their incipient fascism and hatred of God.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (EZebt)

167 the really cool thing about President Trump doing
this: He's protecting an enumerated right and forcing Democrats to come
out in the open and admit they hate Christianity.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (WEBkv)

And Kayleigh specifically mentioned mosques, so they have to take a stand against those too.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (t+mAj)

168 #twomonths until the FBI gets some more training.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (hYcqw)

a fifteen minute video on proper procedures

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (xPl2J)

169 Did the church have loans?

Convenient cover for an insurance job. I imagine tithes are way down.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (dNzKv)

170 Did I tell you I like Andrew Yang?

Posted by: Tim Pool's a-a-a-a-a-look, now seriously,Pool at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (Jj+59)

171 Forgive me if someone said this already, but it would bear repeating.

Does this new CNN math/model INCLUDE or EXCLUDE the various governors ordering sick patients back into elderly care facilities?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (xptlg)

172 Maybe if the NYC subway and DC Metro were closed down we wouldn't be in this shytter.

I get so ticked as a Virginian to see the mess in Northern Virginia dictating policy to the rest of the commonwealth. Meanwhile, the tidewater region, the 2nd largest population center, is doing rather well.
8,734 cases in Fairfax Co. Pop. 1,100,00
591 cases in Va. Beach. Pop. 448,000

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (FsgBK)

173 Don't you just love it when a govt agency investigates itself?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (NI4rU)

And isn't it a coinkydink that they always find there was NO wrongdoing. It was all within current protocol and procedures.

Really a surprise. Just like how Obama never had any scandals.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (yQxbm)

174 Are mosques closed?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (dNzKv)

175 I don't think it's possible to predict the GE right now, or even estimate probabilities-- events will decide it.

Unless u r Nostradamus, who knows?

Posted by: mnw at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (Cssks)

Trump wins bigly. In hindsight everyone including Democrats will agree that Biden was a "terrible candidate".

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (t+mAj)

176 If you see what CNN was saying at the time "Trump should have shut down the country", they were telling us that hysteria was a bigger problem than Wu Flu, and masks wouldn't protect you.

It's a daily game of Simon Says with these people

Posted by: kbdabear at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (qAR6u)

177
Are mosques closed?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (dNzKv)

*snort*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (ptqGC)

178 DJT isn't going to take any sort of action by force. He sends the all clear message and simply allow the blue state governors to marinate in the stink of their choices.

Posted by: BluesFish at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (thifP)

179 Government is a necessary evil.
I forgot who said that. But it's true.
Posted by: Case

--

My father says that government may be a necessary evil, but it certainly is an evil.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (Hcsoi)

180 >> Don't you just love it when a govt agency investigates itself?

My parents never fell for that gag.

Posted by: garrett at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (iFCLF)

181 Well, let's see here...

The Democrats have now succeeded murdering people at both extremes of the age spectrum with zero consequences.

They've been able to shutdown churches. And burn them.

What will they go for next?

What's the over/under for Democrats murdering the physically and mentally handicapped?

After all, who'd want to live like that? They'd be doing the handicapped a favor.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (CDVfT)

182 If Trump would have appointed Biden president in January, nobody would have died for any reason this year, unemployment would be 0, and the national debt would have been paid off. Not to mention, immigration would be open to all, thereby solving poverty worldwide.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (dNzKv)
---------------

I like the cut of what you've said. Perchance do you have a bumper sticker version I can put on my car next to the "coexist" and "hate has no home Here" decals?

Posted by: hippie bedraggled Karen Cat Lady
at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (WEBkv)

183 174 Are mosques closed?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (dNzKv)

The one here is.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (Ez6QX)

184 "Someone stole the cookies from the cookie jar!?"

"Don't worry. I'm on it, Mom and Dad."

Posted by: garrett at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (iFCLF)

185 Eat mor chikun hypokrit

Posted by: Chic-fil-A Cow with a torch at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (V8zw+)

186 For someone so attuned to logic and how the mind works, Adams has some astonishingly silly takes.

My favorite is his claim that there is "no such thing as a slippery slope". That every argument is judged on its own merits.

He's
a hypnotist... meaning he makes suggestions and uses them to literally
ride a slippery slope into your unconscious. But he doesn't think that's
a thing in mass persuasion?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (t+mAj)

I don't know if he's naive or selectively blind. He certainly doesn't believe in evil.

Posted by: Miley, the ~~Duchess~~ - Hydroxy Chloro Queen and Bat Soup Nazi at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (rCwaK)

187 Has anyone seen Juicy Smollett lately?

I think he may be in the Mississippi area.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (Z+IKu)

188 The CDC he agency has been conflating the results of two very different tests: viral tests, which determine if an individual is sick right now, and antibody tests, which are designed to reveal whether an individual has ever been exposed to the pathogen.

The CDC numbers are worthless!!

Go back to studying why lesbians are fat and ugly.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (JFO2v)

189 In eight years did a single member of the DNC enemedia ask "under what specific statute" Obama derived the authority to do a single fucking thing he ever did? You know the answer.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (t+mAj)

190 If I had been born two weeks earlier I would be two weeks older.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2020 03:23

Hah! And if you'd been born two weeks later, you would live two weeks longer.

#SCIENCE!

Posted by: Hands at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (786Ro)

191 While most of the country flattened the curve, Cuomo fattened the curve.

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (FsgBK)

192 #twomonths until the FBI gets some more training.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (hYcqw)

a fifteen minute video on proper procedures

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (xPl2J)

They don't have video technology.The procedures will be presented in the form of scribbled notes.

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (88+cf)

193 Posted by: naturalfake at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (CDVfT)

Seems familiar, *taps chin*

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (nRWPy)

194 So Wray is just now "ordering" a review of the way the FBI handled the Flynn case?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (Zmnko)

195 I'm gonna start wearing my mask like a string bikini. Picture that, Karen.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (WGk5J)

196 Interesting that China's death toll had barely nudged in a month.

Maybe Trump could defeat the 'rona the way the ChiComs did, just stop recording and reporting the numbers.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (aiNU1)

197 And Kayleigh specifically mentioned mosques, so they have to take a stand against those too.
Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (t+mA

Oooh, looks like 'check', maybe one away from 'mate.'

Posted by: LASue at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (Ed8Zd)

198 Unless u r Nostradamus, who knows?

Posted by: mnw at May 22, 2020 03:29 PM (Cssks)

I've got an alternative writ of Nostradamus.

Does that count?

Posted by: naturalfake at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (CDVfT)

199 That said, San Francisco closed March 17 and I believe that is largely responsible for our relatively lower morbidity overall.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (EZebt)

200 Go back to studying why lesbians are fat and ugly.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS

Pronhub refutes that study

Posted by: Hands at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (786Ro)

201 >> Don't you just love it when a govt agency investigates itself?

My parents never fell for that gag.
Posted by: garrett at May 22, 2020 03:31 PM (iFCLF)

"Sweetie, I understand you're upset, and I'm ordering an investigation into whether I boned our au pair fifteen times while you were at your Mom's place last week. I will fully investigate all leads and follow this thing wherever it takes me. I can't comment on an ongoing inquiry. I expect to have an answer in 3-6 months."

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (BAsqb)

202 135 somehow I doubt this level of action was required for the mosques to open
Posted by: brak at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (cG+eD)

Wait!

Wut?

Mosques are open???????

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (sy5kK)

203 NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

Better late than never.
Posted by: IrishEi at May 22, 2020 03:17 PM (sGotD)
++++++++++++++
#twomonths until the FBI gets some more training.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 22, 2020 03:23 PM (hYcqw)

Sample trainings offered:

1. Where art thou 302s - Proper handling and maintenance of them after the indictment is made.

2. FISA Courts and You! - How agents can help the judge by providing them with ALL the relevant information.

3. Masks on! - If you are going to unmask, you must have a valid reason.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (hku12)

204 Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

FedEx charged me $110 and UPS charged me $100. Each pistol was about 4.6 lbs. Apparently both companies require overnight shipping for firearms.

Posted by: bonhomme at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (i0wNm)

205 The best part of government investigating itself? The language is always the same.

It almost seems like they have "Government Investigates Itself" thesaurus they generate their government speak pablum from.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (WEBkv)

206
So Wray is just now "ordering" a review of the way the FBI handled the Flynn case?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (Zmnko)

Didn't he give a stern talking-to to the FBI months ago? Because that seemed to work. /s

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (ptqGC)

207 a fifteen minute video on proper procedures
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 22, 2020 03:30 PM (xPl2J)

Ten Very Good Reasons Why A Conscientious FBI G-Person Should Not Frame, Railroad, Entrap, Lie About Or Bully An Innocent Citizen

An Encyclopedia Britannica Film

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (guGkK)

208 Fuck no

I THOUGHT YOU SAID "FATTEN THE CURVE"

Posted by: TANK ABRAMS at May 22, 2020 03:35 PM (UUUON)

209 So Wray is just now "ordering" a review of the way the FBI handled the Flynn case?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 22, 2020 03:33 PM (Zmnko)

He is going to have some former agents come in for an objective review. Strozk and McCabe

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at May 22, 2020 03:35 PM (dNzKv)

210 'gay swinger glory hole clubs'

I would not be a member of a gay club, a swinger club, nor a glory hole club so Ima say no to one with all of it. Now, don't get me wrong, I like clubs same as the next guy...unless the next guy is a gay swinging glory holer.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 22, 2020 03:35 PM (kfcYC)

211
I don't know if he's naive or selectively blind. He certainly doesn't believe in evil.

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Hydroxy Chloro Queen and Bat Soup Nazi at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (rCwaK)

No you absolutely nailed it in the second sentence. I don't like getting too far into it because we have atheists here, but his atheism blinds him to a world of truth. He appears to believe that D's and R's watch two different movies of the same events, and that the truth is really in some middle gray area. For a very incisive man, he is batshit clueless on some big things.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:35 PM (t+mAj)

212 200 Go back to studying why lesbians are fat and ugly.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS

Pronhub refutes that study
Posted by: Hands

gay for pay doesn't count

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 22, 2020 03:35 PM (FZYNt)

213 "In your Mouth!?"

"Really?"

"With no Warning, you say?"

"I promise you, Sacred Honor Compels Me, I will get to the bottom of this Honey!"

Posted by: garrett at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (iFCLF)

214 All this social distance bullshit is funny. Cant sit next to someone in a restaurant and need to be 10 feet away from people ata a beach. But at Home Depot there are 50 people next to each other in every aisle. Its all a clown show for the Karens.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (DONlh)

215 Government is a necessary evil.
I forgot who said that. But it's true.
Posted by: Case
_________________

Founding father James Madison said something similar. Madison said "If Men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and the next place, oblige it to control itself."

We have failed to oblige our government to control itself.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (k4dH2)

216 If you don't lick Barry's balls like I did, then you're not gay.

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (r+sAi)

217 215 Government is a necessary evil.
I forgot who said that. But it's true.
Posted by: Case
_________________

Founding father James Madison said something similar. Madison said "If Men were angels, no government would be necessary. If angels were to govern men, neither external nor internal controls on government would be necessary. In framing a government which is to be administered by men over men, the great difficulty lies in this: you must first enable the government to control the governed; and the next place, oblige it to control itself."

We have failed to oblige our government to control itself.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (k4dH2)

========

Yeah, that James Madison guy...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:37 PM (UWqZJ)

218 I do think some of the mosques are closed, by their own decision. I drive by something that I think is a mosque and it's definitely closed.

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 22, 2020 03:37 PM (JKNZq)

219 Considering the number of people in Nursing Homes who died because they were deliberately exposed, I submit the number of dead would be higher because they'd have started getting the virus a week earlier.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 22, 2020 03:37 PM (e284m)

220 Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

Car.Parts.
Some imagination required.

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 22, 2020 03:37 PM (88+cf)

221 All this social distance bullshit is funny. Cant sit next to someone in a restaurant and need to be 10 feet away from people ata a beach. But at Home Depot there are 50 people next to each other in every aisle. Its all a clown show for the Karens.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (DONlh)

Wet or dry sand...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2020 03:38 PM (Saar8)

222 A century ago, churches were also shut during the Spanish Flu Pandemic. They were reopened and no one thought about it.

The difference is that today we have Democrats who want to shutter churches, pandemic or no pandemic, just as they already wanted to empty the jails before the first sneeze.

Neither of those were true a century ago.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 22, 2020 03:38 PM (Ndje9)

223 I agree that we should wait for further findings from the investigation rather than jump to conclusions. There are several political persuasions whom the perpetrator might belong to, some of which would qualify this attack as a false flag.
Or it could be a personal grudge where there is no political motive but rather that the perpetrator is trying to cover his tracks by throwing in a red herring. Better to maintain a safe distance rather rush in and have things blow up in your face.
Regardless, I hope that the church members and community rally together this Sunday to provide a witness than faith will overcome hate.

Posted by: civil truth at May 22, 2020 03:38 PM (ymrPC)

224 Its not exactly a mosque but there is not far from where I was today a Muslim center that on Friday afternoons is quite packed, but didn't go by that so don't know. But do expect it was closed as well.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:38 PM (ZCEU2)

225 All of this "hypokrit" business can be resolved by checking the Duden for a little used German word for hypocrite.

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 22, 2020 03:38 PM (u5LFV)

226 All the good FBI agents are all gonna quick cause they're honorable! Any minute now... tick tock !

Posted by: Hannity droning on and on at May 22, 2020 03:38 PM (Zmnko)

227 Re gay swinger glory hole clubs.

Is there any way one can be certain that its not a hot babe on the other side of the hole? Asking for a friend.

Posted by: Barry Obama at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (kfcYC)

228 How is this news? We've been burning out uppity coloreds for 150 years now.

Posted by: Democrats at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (ldmQR)

229 Prepare for Plan B.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:12 PM (sy5kK)

Well the Left certainly has a Plan B, if by "Plan" you mean "Zyklon".

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (t+mAj)

230
NEW: FBI Director Christopher Wray orders an internal review of the investigation of Michael Flynn. (@AP)
@OANN

=========

Damn straight. How'd we let all this damning shyt get out in public?! Do a better job of shredding it next time.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (G51Gf)

231 For someone so attuned to logic and how the mind works, Adams has some astonishingly silly takes.

My favorite is his claim that there is "no such thing as a slippery slope". That every argument is judged on its own merits.

He's
a hypnotist... meaning he makes suggestions and uses them to literally
ride a slippery slope into your unconscious. But he doesn't think that's
a thing in mass persuasion?

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:25 PM (t+mAj)

I don't know if he's naive or selectively blind. He certainly doesn't believe in evil.
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess - Hydroxy Chloro Queen and Bat Soup Nazi at May 22, 2020 03:32 PM (rCwaK)

He's using a persuasion technique to claim there is no slippery slope. I am blanking on the exact name of it but there's a specific technique wherein a person denies that arguments build upon each other but rather insists that each step is sui generis.

It's a bad faith technique designed to frustrate the person making an argument.

In other words, he is, at best, being less than candid about how he is approaching the entire practice of argumentation.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (GbPPJ)

232 But at Home Depot there are 50 people next to each other in every aisle. Its all a clown show for the Karens.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:36 PM (DONlh)

Does Karen go to Home Depot? I would think she'd send that useless layabout husband of hers!

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (BAsqb)

233 I will beat Joe Biden....

Posted by: Joey Biden at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (Zmnko)

234 Is there any way one can be certain that its not a hot babe on the other side of the hole? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Barry Obama

you mean the voice on a 1-900 number call wasn't the hot girl in the ad?

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (FZYNt)

235 Shouldn't US Marshals have only one "L" ?

Posted by: bob frapples at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (hNjgQ)

236 Safer at Home.....Depot.

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 22, 2020 03:41 PM (88+cf)

237 It's a bad faith technique designed to frustrate the person making an argument.

In other words, he is, at best, being less than candid about how he is approaching the entire practice of argumentation.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (GbPPJ)
--------------

He denies the preceding premise in favor of a new premise?

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:41 PM (WEBkv)

238
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (ptqGC)

Wray's got a full size mirror in his office.

After making statements like that, he goes back to the office and gives himself a stern talking to.

Then he has his intern bring him a JD and coke and they have good laugh.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:41 PM (yQxbm)

239 https://tinyurl.com/y8an9sms

Interesting tweet about the FBI review. Shipwreckedcrew is the former federal prosecutor who has been doing excellent stuff on the Flynn case at Redstate.

Apparently the division doing the review is similar to internal affairs at a PD.

Posted by: Mark1971 at May 22, 2020 03:42 PM (xPl2J)

240 In other words, he is, at best, being less than candid about how he is approaching the entire practice of argumentation.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:39 PM (GbPPJ)

This, I buy. I couldn't make sense of it unless I thought he was doing it for effect.

I honestly assume the same of things like his Gates support but when I don't know, it's more appropriate just to sow some seeds of doubt.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (t+mAj)

241 Where was Jusse Smollet?

Posted by: torabora at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (Y274z)

242 After making statements like that, he goes back to the office and gives himself a stern talking to.

Then he has his intern bring him a JD and coke and they have good laugh.
Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 03:41 PM (yQxbm)
-------------

I think all people with responsible positions in government should be required to live under the Damocles model of government.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (WEBkv)

243 239 https://tinyurl.com/y8an9sms

Interesting tweet about the FBI review. Shipwreckedcrew is the former federal prosecutor who has been doing excellent stuff on the Flynn case at Redstate.

Apparently the division doing the review is similar to internal affairs at a PD.
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 22, 2020 03:42 PM (xPl2J)

===========

"Inspection Division is not a "joke" in the FBI. NO ONE likes it when Inspection Division shows up in a Field Office. The accepted wisdom among rank & file is that they come hunting for scalps. There is a reason they are there, and they almost never go away giving everyone a pass."

That sounds sporty.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (UWqZJ)

244 If Republicans win churches will burn.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (aKsyK)

245 Some states have allowed places of worship to open. Others have not. Some don't ever want them to reopen so you can worship the government.

Posted by: Case at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (bFzPX)

246
Shouldn't US Marshals have only one "L" ?
Posted by: bob frapples at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (hNjgQ)

Except for George, yes.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (mht8P)

247 So Trump is defending the rights Black churches and Dems are calling him out on it. Think that will work, Wolfie?

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (FsgBK)

248
He denies the preceding premise in favor of a new premise?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:41 PM (WEBkv)

More or less. Also refuses to take a position to its logical conclusions.

I like Scott Adams but he has some very very odd blinders that I am not 100% convinced are genuine.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (GbPPJ)

249 If the outcome of this doesn't involve the FBI being forced to record all their interviews, it means very little.

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (BAsqb)

250 The best part of government investigating itself? The language is always the same.

It almost seems like they have "Government Investigates Itself" thesaurus they generate their government speak pablum from.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (WEBkv)

True story, when the Ray Rice incident happened, where he had knocked out his fiance while they were in an elevator, the video INSIDE the elevator had been delivered to the NFL offices mere days after the incident had occurred.

Fast forward a couple months, and the NFL has given Rice a slap on the wrist for the incident, because he claimed a little shoving might have gone on inside the elevator, but he swears he never hit her, but that she slipped and fell.

The NFL says the ruling was based on the information they had. Then the video inside the elevator is released.

Bam.

NFL SWEARS they never saw that video before. The police then go public and say, yes, indeed, we delivered the video to your offices, as you requested. Days after the incident.

There's proof of it being delivered and everything.

So the NFL does an investigation of just how such a thing could have happened, and you know what the NFL found out?

Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (hku12)

251 He's using a persuasion technique to claim there is no slippery slope. I am blanking on the exact name of it but there's a specific technique wherein a person denies that arguments build upon each other but rather insists that each step is sui generis.

It's a bad faith technique designed to frustrate the person making an argument.

In other words, he is, at best, being less than candid about how he is approaching the entire practice of argumentation.

- - -

When you can't beat their argument,

1. stall the opposition by finding excuses to pick it apart down to the molecular level, while ignoring the primary claim. Do this as long as it takes.

2. wait for the opposition to get fed up and quit.

3. declare you won; declare that they couldn't defend their argument.

Posted by: Democrats at May 22, 2020 03:44 PM (ldmQR)

252 Does Karen go to Home Depot? I would think she'd send that useless layabout husband of hers!
Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (BAsqb)

I do it just to get out of the house and take the damn mask off.

Posted by: Karen's Husband at May 22, 2020 03:44 PM (1g7ch)

253 Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.
Posted by: BurtTC

video is unreliable

Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (FZYNt)

254 Shouldn't have Wray justbsent himself an e mail saying that today (and everyday) the FBI did everything by the book?

Posted by: Mallamutt, RINO President for Life at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (yAc5z)

255 Hey everybody.

It was probably already mentioned somewhere here, but I just read the Michigan 77 year old barber finally slapped down Whitmer in court, and was told he can reopen.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (6ADg2)

256 Sex workers and human trafficking have taken a big hit during these times, but right hand injuries have doubled apparently. Not to mention the molestation of melons and liver heated to body temp.

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (NI4rU)

257 204 Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

FedEx charged me $110 and UPS charged me $100. Each pistol was about 4.6 lbs. Apparently both companies require overnight shipping for firearms.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (i0wNm)

220 Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

Car.Parts.
Some imagination required.
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 22, 2020 03:37 PM (88+cf)

Ahhh, a voice of experience.

Wrap everything in bubble wrap, so nothing rattles or comes loose.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (sy5kK)

258
Prepare for Plan B.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

Is that when you send all the useless people away on a space ark?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (aKsyK)

259 Ace...you forgot to ask the punk karen if she/it felt lucky or not....lthen say Did i fire 6 million shots or 7?

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (9PtLS)

260 Since they know it happened between 2 and 4am, do cell companies have the ability to see if any cell phones were in proximity to that church during that time frame?
Posted by: Turn Two at May 22, 2020 03:14 PM (BHYVd)

Yes, I work with cell data every day. It's called a tower dump and in a situation like this, it would be a needle-in-a-haystack problem.

Google does something similar called a geofence report.

Things like this can very easily get someone investigated without proper cause.

Posted by: grognard at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (sb+Cg)

261 "Inspection Division is not a "joke" in the FBI. NO
ONE likes it when Inspection Division shows up in a Field Office. The
accepted wisdom among rank file is that they come hunting for
scalps. There is a reason they are there, and they almost never go away
giving everyone a pass."

That sounds sporty.

Fingers crossed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (UWqZJ)
I know you say it's a good source but this rings to me just like the "straight shooter" narrative. When the straight shooter clears you, it means you must be extra innocent.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (t+mAj)

262 256 Sex workers and human trafficking have taken a big hit during these times, but right hand injuries have doubled apparently. Not to mention the molestation of melons and liver heated to body temp.
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby

Liver? well i guess it's better than eating it

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (FZYNt)

263 Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a
copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security
team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (hku12)

That's the classic "Rogue Agents in Cincinnati" defense.

Posted by: Roland THTG at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (88+cf)

264 National Guard are under the command of the governor (Title 32 U.S. Code) unless nationalized / mobilized / called up, use whatever term you like. There has to be a Congresssionally-approved need for that (e.g. all the mobilizations back in the '00s were in support of 'Operation Noble Eagle').
So, I tend to think the NG would not be an option, because for the President to employ them would be a monummental (1) effort to get Congressional approval, or (2) executive overreach if not.
I expect it would be federal LE like the US Marshals, FBI, or maybe even CBP. It's way easier to get away with using federal police for political ops - just ask Obama, Holder, Comey, Brennan, Reno, etc etc etc.

And in this case, like Alabama, the cause would actually be legitimate, assuming the evidence was not falsified (unlike all the uses they served under the <spit> democrats <spit> I named).

Posted by: BoomerVF14 at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (U44ZE)

265
So, Wray didn't think he should look into internal affairs at the FBI when the Stroke/Page texts were made public two years ago??

Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:47 PM (j4t07)

266 Shouldn't US Marshals have only one "L" ?
Posted by: bob frapples at May 22, 2020 03:40 PM (hNjgQ)

I have three!

Posted by: Marshal Marshall at May 22, 2020 03:47 PM (SgjGX)

267 255 Hey everybody.

It was probably already mentioned somewhere here, but I just read the Michigan 77 year old barber finally slapped down Whitmer in court, and was told he can reopen.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (6ADg2)

Thanks, steve, first I heard of it.

Very good news.

Do you know if it was state or federal court?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:47 PM (sy5kK)

268 More or less. Also refuses to take a position to its logical conclusions.

I like Scott Adams but he has some very very odd blinders that I am not 100% convinced are genuine.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (GbPPJ)

I've come to see him as an incredibly intelligent loon who somehow is right a whole lot more often than I think he should be.

and he seems to understand how Trump thinks better than any of the rest of us.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2020 03:47 PM (V2Yro)

269 Abolish the FBI and the NFL.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 22, 2020 03:48 PM (Z+IKu)

270 Not just Home Depot but all large stores. Walmart, HD, Costco, supermarkets all the same. You have hundreds if not 1000+ people walking around each other and touching stuff that other then touch. That is ok. And has been since day 1.

But getting a haircut is worse than cancer apparently.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:48 PM (DONlh)

271 261 "Inspection Division is not a "joke" in the FBI. NO
ONE likes it when Inspection Division shows up in a Field Office.
===
What field office would they be going to? The J Edgar Hoover Bldg?

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 03:48 PM (FsgBK)

272 I like Scott Adams but he has some very very odd blinders that I am not 100% convinced are genuine.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (GbPPJ)

Yeah I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed. Thank you for the insight.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 03:48 PM (t+mAj)

273 When it's an attack on a leftist institution "fake hate crime" is rarely if ever mentioned by the msm let alone investigated or reported when later revealed. Yet "possible fake" has already been tossed around on this story not only by the msm but by goofballs like Tim Pool. I'm not suggesting that possibility not be thoroughly checked just pointing out example # 7,882 of the difference in reporting based on the politics of the alleged victim. IMHO, on the right, we need to go full stupid on turning the tables on the left re how these things are reported- handled. Only once the left gets a constant face full of their own shit will there be an honest move to clean up the media, reporting, etc.

Posted by: Sheepish Chuckle at May 22, 2020 03:48 PM (PQsM6)

274 Lol. A Karen just now: "This 'Karen' thing is really starting to get under my skin."

Reply: "You should go complain to the manager."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 22, 2020 03:48 PM (ptqGC)

275 I think Scott Adams would say that Trump is doing this move about reopening the churches to make sure than all devoted Christians remember that with Trump, their churches will be open, but with Democrats, they'll be shut down.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2020 03:49 PM (V2Yro)

276 Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.
Posted by: BurtTC

video is unreliable
Posted by: Jeffrey Epstein at May 22, 2020 03:45 PM (FZYNt)

Don't get hung up on that point.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:49 PM (hku12)

277 Never shipped a firearm, but would it work sending the parts individually?

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:49 PM (ZCEU2)

278 >>What field office would they be going to? The J Edgar Hoover Bldg?

NY, Rome, London, Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (ZLI7S)

279
The Dilbert guy is okay, sometimes. But he's a real big fan of Bill Gates, which makes Scott Adams officially a shithead.

If you listen to Scott Adams enough and you're semi-intelligent, you'll realize he's a big proponent of Social Engineering by Elites, because he fancies himself an elite social engineer.

Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (j4t07)

280

Who is running Citizen Free Press?

Has to be a moron.

Has to be.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (Saar8)

281 There's proof of it being delivered and everything.

So the NFL does an investigation of just how such a thing could have happened, and you know what the NFL found out?

Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (hku12)
----------------

I hadn't heard that about the video I remember seeing the video, though, and Rice leveled that gal.

I do, however, remember Rice getting a slap on the wrist.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (WEBkv)

282 So, Wray didn't think he should look into internal affairs at the FBI when the Stroke/Page texts were made public two years ago??
Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:47 PM (j4t07)

Apparently Wray has decided he needs to do something to protect his phony-baloney job.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (V2Yro)

283 FedEx charged me $110 and UPS charged me $100. Each pistol was about 4.6 lbs. Apparently both companies require overnight shipping for firearms.

--

Can you blame them? One of those things could shoot someone.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Trump has saved 2 million people since January at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (ADuZP)

284 Picking up girls:

FBI agent...out
insurancene agent...in

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (9PtLS)

285 Never shipped a firearm, but would it work sending the parts individually?
Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:49 PM (ZCEU2)

Probably for everything except the serialized receiver.

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (BAsqb)

286
195 I'm gonna start wearing my mask like a string bikini. Picture that, Karen.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (WGk5J)

Well, THEY have made the ridiculous point that wearing a mask is like wearing a pair of underwear in order to keep those last few drops from going through your pants (or some such bullshit).

"Hey, K-girl, this was your idea, not mine!"

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (pNxlR)

287 Barr had a special prosecutor looking at the Flynn case from the DOJ and FBI perspective already? The evidence is already collected so it should take Wray only 2 years to come up with an exoneration of everything the FBI did.

Too fkking little, way too fkking late.

Posted by: Dirks Strewn at May 22, 2020 03:51 PM (kfcYC)

288 Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a
copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security
team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (hku12)

That's the classic "Rogue Agents in Cincinnati" defense.
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 22, 2020 03:46 PM (88+cf)

Yep. Damn them low lever staffers. Never lettin' us do things by the book!

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:51 PM (hku12)

289 Govt in a nutshell. Forest service campground are closed cuz muhCorona. But BLM campgrounds are open. Cuz yeah that makes sense.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:51 PM (DONlh)

290
Scott Adams is a fool for two major reasons: Global Warming and Bill Gates.

Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:51 PM (j4t07)

291 Do you have a drug addicted, ne'er do well cousin who needs a job?

He/she can write headlines every bit as good as THIS one for Bloomberg: "Dow Sags Before Memorial Day Weekend, As Investors Eye U.S.-China Tensions"

The "sag" was less than one quarter of 1% when that headline went up. A moment's reflection should tell any normal person that you can't "explain" the root causes of incredibly tiny vacillations.

Posted by: mnw at May 22, 2020 03:51 PM (Cssks)

292 If you listen to Scott Adams enough and you're semi-intelligent, you'll realize he's a big proponent of Social Engineering by Elites, because he fancies himself an elite social engineer.
Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (j4t07)

I think he's admitted that Dogbert is even more of his alter-ego than Dilbert is. If you read the strip, you no Dogbert looks down on everyone, and has no morals of any kind.

Dogbert is also pretty damned funny.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2020 03:52 PM (V2Yro)

293 @68
Interesting that you believe a bishop's dispensation can trump the Fourth Commandment.
Shame on all the clergy who didn't fight this, tooth and nail

Posted by: artemis at May 22, 2020 03:52 PM (AwPyG)

294
Wray has less than zero credibility.

He is either corrupt or really stupid.

At this point, it doesn't matter.

Just GTFO.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:52 PM (sy5kK)

295 I like Scott Adams but he has some very very odd blinders that I am not 100% convinced are genuine.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 22, 2020 03:43

I see it as his argument style. Reading his opinion pieces and some of his book writing. He very much wants to take you the reader to the edge and have you make the final leap. I see him skip some basic, obvious rhetoric sometimes, intentionally, just for you to internalize his argument and reason out things for your self.

At least that's the way it looks to me. Does it work? I don't know. I suck at reasoning with people. So I'm not a good judge of technique.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 22, 2020 03:52 PM (l6b3d)

296
Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

Ahhh, a voice of experience.
Wrap everything in bubble wrap, so nothing rattles or comes loose.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

And if they X-ray the package?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (aKsyK)

297 Yeah...Pritzker isn't going to budge on the church reopening. They can do drive-up, though. What a tyrant.

Posted by: lizabth at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (L3Rsz)

298 I do, however, remember Rice getting a slap on the wrist.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (WEBkv)

Remember Michael Vick?

Because I remember Michael Vick.

When he got busted people were ranting about how he was lower than dirt, he'd be murdered in prison, he'd never play again, he was ruined, he was human sewage and no team would ever sign him again blah blah blah. He did his bit, came out and... Went right back into the NFL. If you can make them money they literally do not give a shit if you killed someone.

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (BAsqb)

299 Government has already got us by the short hairs but that's not good enough. They want our souls.
But that AIN'T gonna happen.

Posted by: Case at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (bFzPX)

300 Govt in a nutshell. Forest service campground are closed cuz muhCorona. But BLM campgrounds are open. Cuz yeah that makes sense.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member

Any campground being closed is bullshit.

Because I'll definitely social distance.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (/tG8l)

301 realclearpolitics

A Snapshot of Voter Fears About the Election

If there were an "official" feeling to describe how Americans view the forthcoming 2020 presidential election, it would be "fear." However, a study shows election fear predated COVID-19 and the ensuing economic upheaval to form what is now a tumultuous, interconnected triad.

The annual Survey of American Fears conducted in August 2019 by Chapman University found 47.5% of Americans were "afraid or very afraid" of the 2020 election outcome. But among some demographic groups that percentage pushed up considerably -- liberals, for example, registered at 74.6%.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (Saar8)

302 278 >>What field office would they be going to? The J Edgar Hoover Bldg?

NY, Rome, London, Ukraine.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (ZLI7S)

"...Everybody talk about - POP MUSIC!"

- - M, 1979

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (s2VJv)

303 Marshalls? Missed that. Their primary duty is security of federal judicial system, and federal convicts. Must have been different back then.

Posted by: rhomboid at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (e6aIc)

304 If you can make them money they literally do not give a shit if you killed someone.
Posted by: Vanya

Your Honour I present exhibit A; Mr. Ray Lewis

Posted by: Rick in SK at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (FZYNt)

305 The process could work like this: a request for injunction by some entity (concerned citizens, maybe or sympathetic local authorities) in federal court claiming civil rights violations (assembly, speech, religion). Federal court agrees. If churches don't open, federal troops ...US marshals, federalized NG...can enforce court order under POTUS executive authority. It's how the 50s and 60s civil rights cases played out.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (ja/kn)

306 Scott Adams is like Ben Shapiro. I agree with some things they say disagree with others. You dont have to agree with someone 100% of the time on 100% of the issues.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (DONlh)

307 Scott Adams is a fool for two major reasons: Global Warming and Bill Gates.
Posted by: The Left at May 22, 2020 03:51 PM (j4t07)

Bill Gates, yes. He's actually been playing a game with the Global Warming people. I looked into some of his statements on "Persuasion" which he says Trump follows (maybe, maybe not) and he talked at length about the tactic of acting like you're agreeing with someone to "get inside the tent" with them and then start attacking them from the inside. That's the kind of thing he thinks about a lot.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (V2Yro)

308 I saw a man pretending to be a reporter. He wore a fucking Matching plaid tie and mask.

I feel like superman now.

Posted by: humphreyrobot at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (9PtLS)

309 There's proof of it being delivered and everything.

So the NFL does an investigation of just how such a thing could have happened, and you know what the NFL found out?

Nobody other than a low lever staffer ever saw a copy of the video. Not Rog Goodell, not any of their lawyers, security team... nobody.

Well that clears that up.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:43 PM (hku12)
----------------

I hadn't heard that about the video I remember seeing the video, though, and Rice leveled that gal.

I do, however, remember Rice getting a slap on the wrist.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 22, 2020 03:50 PM (WEBkv)

Oh yeah, and I want to say one of those typical NFL reporters, who had a gig on one of the teevee channels, he did a story about it after the video was released, had dates and times and quotes from cops...

And then, if memory serves me, sometime later he more or less recanted his story, saying the NFL's explanation totally made sense.

Sure. Uh huh.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (hku12)

310 So saw a couple of emergencies today. Took in a few shekels.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (85Gof)

311
How does Wray spend his time? Other than sticking his head in the sand like an albatross or covering for the evil within the FBI, what else does Wray do?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (j4t07)

312 I am reading and watching way too much about Oliver Stone's Alexander. I just finished a 45 minute television special from 2004 about how Colin Farrell "became" Alexander.

I will say, though, that actors taking themselves that seriously when it comes to fake combat tickles me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (UWqZJ)

313 WeaselAcres is a Mask Free Zone.

Posted by: Weasel at May 22, 2020 03:55 PM (MVjcR)

314 If you can gather in a pub, gather in a store, gather in a restaurant, GATHER IN A BUS OR SUBWAY, but NOT gather in a church, obviously the question is obviously not gathering but the purpose you are doing it for.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 22, 2020 03:55 PM (oVJmc)

315 306 Scott Adams is like Ben Shapiro. I agree with some things they say disagree with others. You dont have to agree with someone 100% of the time on 100% of the issues.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (DONlh)

This is true (and why I link to Daily Wire), but it doesn't necessarily negate the individual's mindset. I don't feel like digging through 15 tons of Ed Morrisey's turds just to find a single kernel of corn pop.

Waste of my time.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2020 03:55 PM (s2VJv)

316 I am reading and watching way too much about Oliver Stone's Alexander. I just finished a 45 minute television special from 2004 about how Colin Farrell "became" Alexander.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (UWqZJ)

Got drunk, stabbed someone and did Butt Stuff with a friend?

Posted by: Vanya at May 22, 2020 03:56 PM (BAsqb)

317 This just in: Religious services will now include the ancient "Hair cut" celebration as part of communion.

Posted by: Orson at May 22, 2020 03:56 PM (0QVqB)

318 300

Camping banned is only the stupidest thing I heard. The first being fishing which was banned in a few states. Because standing by yourself ina river bank drinking beer I may cause you to catch the Wuhan Flu from a fish. Or something.

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:56 PM (DONlh)

319
In the Orville Faubus case in Arkansas, Gov. Faubus called out the National Guard to prevent the schools from being integrated in defiance of the federal courts.

Ike federalized the Arkansas Guard to take command away from Faubus, and then sent in the 101st Airborne, *regular federal Army* to enforce desegregation.

That was meant as a quite serious statement on governors defying federal court orders.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 22, 2020 03:56 PM (rCwaK)

320

NOOD

noood

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at May 22, 2020 03:57 PM (j4t07)

321 NOOD. something?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob at May 22, 2020 03:57 PM (XEfKE)

322 Here in NM where the govt owns so much land, can't Trump just declare it open?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 22, 2020 03:57 PM (NI4rU)

323 317 This just in: Religious services will now include the ancient "Hair cut" celebration as part of communion.
Posted by: Orson

On it

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at May 22, 2020 03:57 PM (FZYNt)

324 297 Yeah...Pritzker isn't going to budge on the church reopening. They can do drive-up, though. What a tyrant.
=========

He can't do shit to stop it. I suspect he might double down and come down even harder on the state. Maybe extend the lockdown, sumptin like that. Like a kid that didn't get his way.

Posted by: Pliney at May 22, 2020 03:58 PM (nzKWW)

325 The FBI announced Friday that Director Chris Wray has ordered an internal review of the handling of the bureaus investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, which will include examining whether current FBI employees engaged in misconduct.

In a related story, The Treasury Department is ordering a review of The Prohibition Law to see if is was such a good idea after all?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 22, 2020 03:58 PM (85Gof)

326 318 300

Camping banned is only the stupidest thing I heard. The first being fishing which was banned in a few states. Because standing by yourself ina river bank drinking beer I may cause you to catch the Wuhan Flu from a fish. Or something.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:56 PM (DONlh)

De Bolshevik banning swimming is a complete outrage. I hope the lower classes that frequent Coney Island, Manhattan, Brighton and Orchard Beaches disobey en masse.

Hit 75 today in Hymietown.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 22, 2020 03:58 PM (s2VJv)

327 Was listening to Scott Adams while he was on a local radio station. Some good stuff and enough to keep me listening occasionally I guess.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 03:59 PM (ZCEU2)

328 Scott Adams is like Ben Shapiro. I agree with some things they say disagree with others. You dont have to agree with someone 100% of the time on 100% of the issues.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at May 22, 2020 03:54 PM (DONlh)

I used to think Shapiro was a phony, that his act was all about self-serving, milking a slot in the conservosphere.

I have now come to the conclusion that he is, is autistic. He's not as far gone as some, but he's absolutely on the spectrum. His brain just sorta goes places, and he doesn't have any compass to give him pause, to look around and see if what he's saying has any practical place in the real world.

So yeah, he's not wrong on lots of things. But the things he's wrong on, he's about as twisted around as you can get without being stupid or evil. Of which he is neither.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 03:59 PM (hku12)

329 If you listen to Scott Adams enough and you're semi-intelligent, you'll realize he's a big proponent of Social Engineering by Elites, because he fancies himself an elite social engineer.

It's common, I feel, in the Bay Area white-collar world (and, yes, I was one). You know everything, everything is obvious, because the real world really doesn't intrude on you, nor do you have any influence over it. We absolutely had all the answers.

Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2020 03:59 PM (1554F)

330
Interesting that you believe a bishop's dispensation can trump the Fourth Commandment.

I don't think the Good Lord would say we had to attend Mass if we sincerely felt that it would put us at risk. The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 22, 2020 04:00 PM (mht8P)

331 Since they know it happened between 2 and 4am, do cell companies have the ability to see if any cell phones were in proximity to that church during that time frame?
Posted by: Turn Two
------

Pfft. Using mitochondrial DNA we'll have the perp ID'd by the end of the next commercial.

Posted by: Holly Springs CIS at May 22, 2020 04:00 PM (bPH26)

332 God knows swimming in a pool that is so heavily chlorinated nothing can live is dangerous.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 04:00 PM (ZCEU2)

333 Yeah...Pritzker isn't going to budge on the church reopening.

We can't reopen churches until they stop blowing up. Anything else would be irresponsible.

Posted by: t-bird at May 22, 2020 04:01 PM (1554F)

334 Shit. Of course. Why do I even bother typing on this site.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 22, 2020 04:01 PM (hku12)

335 Big Gov to Expand
The Virginia Department of Health is recruiting 1,000 contractors as COVID-19 contact tracers.

Sounds like a 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon thing.

Posted by: Guam Tipper at May 22, 2020 04:02 PM (FsgBK)

336
Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

FedEx charged me $110 and UPS charged me $100. Each pistol was about 4.6 lbs. Apparently both companies require overnight shipping for firearms.
Posted by: bonhomme at May 22, 2020 03:34 PM (i0wNm)

Honestly, I'm kind of okay with doing overnight shipping. The less time a boxed gun is in the hands of the halfway-house warehouse monkeys they have working there, the better.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 22, 2020 04:02 PM (EGyGV)

337 Pretty sure they can track cell phones by what signal its picking up.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 04:02 PM (ZCEU2)

338 The way the Left has refused all this time to get under the tent of how Trump works and expose it - which they could, and use it to damage him bigly - tells you more about how *they* work than anything else.

Trump knows some very important Secrets of the Left. He is an "activist" and a "community organizer" of the most effective kinds. He knows how to rabble rouse with the best. He didn't capture a movement with all the stars lined against him and keep its support at 95% through dumb luck.

Trump is well acquainted with the Left's tactics and uses them to great effect. But they don't call him out on it - they shannot - because if they do, people will discover that the Commies are running a giant magic show.

It's one of the reasons Trump maintains his power over them. They can't be honest about what he's really doing and why he's so good at it. How often do you hear them even admit he's good at what he does? They are terrified of "everyone" figuring out the game. And they will take being Rachel Corried for eight years if it means they can keep most people asleep.

Posted by: ... at May 22, 2020 04:03 PM (t+mAj)

339 LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 03:26 PM (sy5kK)

Exactly. All those states were bleeding $$$$$ because of increasing medicaid back when and now find themselves on the hook for exorbitant employee retirement benefits.

Posted by: Grannymimi at May 22, 2020 04:03 PM (u5LFV)

340 I'm not afraid of the election in November.

I'm afraid of the aftermath which will depend on many factors. None of them within anyone's control. Nor any way or any agency that one could trust to be certain the outcome is what it is said to be.

And that's G-dDamn shame. For the US to come to this.

Posted by: jakee308 at May 22, 2020 04:03 PM (yQxbm)

341 296
Does anyone know how to ship firearms without getting a lube-free foreign object up the butt?

Ahhh, a voice of experience.
Wrap everything in bubble wrap, so nothing rattles or comes loose.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

And if they X-ray the package?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 22, 2020 03:53 PM (aKsyK)

Then you are already on some gubbermint list.

All I know is that it has worked for anyone I knew.

And ammo is "ball bearings", or "construction fasteners".

Disassemble the firearm if you are worried, I guess.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 04:04 PM (sy5kK)

342 @319.
That was Arkansas 60years ago.
Don't see any of that going on in the wayward "civilized" states today.

Posted by: Case at May 22, 2020 04:04 PM (bFzPX)

343 145 Ana Navarro tweeted something stupid and insensitive, and Fox News' Janice Dean was having none of it.

I saw Janice Dean on Tucker last night, telling us how Cuomo murdered her parents-in-law.

She didn't say murdered, but I did, because it is what happened.

I now know a little bit how those Italians felt when they found Mussolini, his mistress, and close advisors trying to escape.

I am beginning to understand.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 22, 2020 04:08 PM (sy5kK)

344 I'm not afraid of the election in November.

I'm afraid of the aftermath which will depend on many factors. None of them within anyone's control. Nor any way or any agency that one could trust to be certain the outcome is what it is said to be.

And that's G-dDamn shame. For the US to come to this.
Posted by: jakee308

I'm hoping we can finally settle ALL family business.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 22, 2020 04:09 PM (/tG8l)

345 Misspelling "Marshal" is never... justified.

Posted by: Raylan Givens, USMS at May 22, 2020 04:14 PM (TQ/zJ)

346 It's a false flag because the LEFT wants churches burned with the members INSIDE the Church.

Posted by: Voter theater. at May 22, 2020 04:14 PM (hdog5)

347 This is some crazy time

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 04:14 PM (ZCEU2)

348 346 That is a big next step to take, going to take a seasoned psychological nut to go that far.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 04:16 PM (ZCEU2)

349 We willowed?

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 04:17 PM (ZCEU2)

350 Yep, guess so.

Posted by: Skip at May 22, 2020 04:17 PM (ZCEU2)

351 Probably already noted, but what if it's a false false flag?

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 22, 2020 04:18 PM (p7r9F)

352 Superfly. You're gonna make your fortune by and by.
Posted by: Smokin' Uncle Joe Biden at May 22, 2020

*
*

Ya wanna be a junkie? Why?

Posted by: Freddie, Who Is Dead at May 22, 2020 04:20 PM (rpbg1)

353 I read and listen to people for information and to see different takes on an issue but I have never taken a position or maintained an opinion just because they did and who they are. I think that's true for most conservatives and thus most here.

That's why we have decent flame wars and have a really shitty echo chamber.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 22, 2020 04:28 PM (2DOZq)

354 I feel like lefties gin up fake hate crimes for their narrative. Why would conservatives burn down their church just to show that they are hated?? Doesn't make sense.
It seems real to me.
Posted by: Iris at May 22, 2020 03:11 PM (lSFe/)

From the photo I saw, the church looked like it could have had an explosion inside. The roof is gone and a wall looks collapsed.

Maybe a congregant would set a small fire in order to look more sympathetic, but the damage looks like somebody wanted to make certain that church couldn't be used. I'm inclined to suspect some lefty did it, but I guess we will see.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at May 22, 2020 04:50 PM (pJWtt)

355 I will eat a hat if the church burning was a false flag... that type of false action is almost exclusively perpetrated by the hysterical snowflakes who are now playing the part of Karen. That type of false action is NOT perpetrated by people who take responsibility for their own actions and are clearly not buying into hysteria.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at May 22, 2020 05:21 PM (nAiE/)

356 26
Wouldn't think a false flag. But we know Leftists are going to get very militant.
I pray they in fact DO get "militant." So, go for it so me and some Heartland Deplorables can show them what a real riot feels, looks, and tastes like. The insanity must cease. GO for it.

Posted by: featherstone at May 22, 2020 06:47 PM (+/4Mh)

357 And so t hey resort to burning churches the lowlife scoundrels

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 22, 2020 06:51 PM (FLiOE)

358 Trump will have to federalize the national guard to protect the civil rights of US citizens. Just like Ike and El BJ did.

Posted by: rechill at May 22, 2020 07:15 PM (lYLWl)

359 They used explosives at the back and blew out the front of the Church. Not simpletons on a lark.
Wasn't this the same Church that has nails scattered on the Parking Lot prior to Easter Services? I have photos.
Final question: Are any local Mosques affected by the same orders? Just Sayin'.....

Posted by: TxMarko at May 22, 2020 10:14 PM (UZv16)

360 If I were an investigator conducting interviews of suspects in this case, I would ask the suspects to spell the word "hypocrite."

Posted by: Bob Agard at May 22, 2020 11:05 PM (QDScc)

361 What was the financial shape of the church. If it was good I'd think this was a hate crime depending on the size of the congregation. If not it could be a false flag crime. Also Holly Springs is lead by a notorious black cretin who might encourage this sort of thing.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at May 23, 2020 12:21 AM (Ju2mK)

362 Thanks for your post. Would love to see more of your posts. Thanks .

Posted by: jagannath rath yatra at May 23, 2020 05:59 AM (DinEQ)

363 "I'm not sure how that works, but then, I also don't know how governors decided that they can suspend the Bill of Rights on a whim."

Trump has the public on his side, the Nazi Govs don't.

legally Trump has no power to force them to do anything, Trump's power in this matter is the power of the people to choose to listen to him and not them.

and they will

Posted by: Shoey at May 23, 2020 09:59 AM (hmNVd)

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Mississippi Church That Resisted Orders to Shut Down Burns Down/Explodes;Trump Orders Governors to Treat Religious Services as "Essential Services"

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Mississippi Church That Resisted Orders to Shut Down Burns Down/Explodes;
Trump Orders Governors to Treat Religious Services as "Essential Services"