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The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition
[Courtesy of Mindful Webworker]
Amazing that at long last, after we claw our way out of this self-imposed depression, that we will have to fight once again with the mandarins who live to tell us what to do and what not to do. Government regulation is at the core of so much that prevents American business from innovating and growing and succeeding, but in this case it is quite simply insane. I have never understood the need for the ADA, as so much of its demands are simply anti-free-markets. Well, to be fair, I do understand that much of it is driven by the plaintiff's bar, who salivate at the often unachievable demands and byzantine requirements of its thousands of pages of dense regulation. Stores That Reopen Face ADA Compliance Puzzles*
Around much of the country retail stores and small businesses are struggling with how to reopen, or carry on operations online, consistent with public health recommendations on social distancing and protection of customers and workers. And as they do they find their task complicated in many ways by the requirements of the Americans With Disabilities Act (ADA) and related state laws.What's the over/under on the first lawsuit filed because some SJW vegan/fatty/furry/non-binary/soy-eater is offended by some terminally embarrassed coffee joint employee politely asking to take its temperature, or some wheelchair-bound "activist" being forced to wait outside in the rain while his pancakes are cooked? If there is sufficient unmet demand that it is economically viable to satisfy the minuscule population of these people, then the free market will satisfy that demand. Anything else is anti-competitive and anti-freedom. *Uh...why does Walter Olson have a video of a Georgian TV news show on his website? They are speaking Georgian!
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Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:01 AM (8D42x)
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i'll be damned, i made it.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:01 AM (8D42x)
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Sturm stormed the thread.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:02 AM (WEBkv)
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rd
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:02 AM (pw+jk)
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BABOON times ahead. No Monkey business may OPEN.
Posted by: saf at May 19, 2020 11:02 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:02 AM (pw+jk)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:03 AM (LvTSG)
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I have never understood the need for the ADA, as so much of its demands are simply anti-free-markets.
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I think you are onto something.
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I think you are onto something.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2020 11:03 AM (Hcsoi)
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corgis called
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:03 AM (8D42x)
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coulda been a contender
Posted by: Boomers remember stuff at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM (vI+F1)
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FYI - ADA Act - lawyers sent people in wheelchairs out looking for businesses that were out of compliance, or appeared to be out of compliance, so they could sue.
Ask me how I know this.
Ask me how I know this.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM (WEBkv)
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Masks Macht Frei
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM (G546f)
Posted by: IrishEi at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (sGotD)
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How many hotels closed their pools rather than make them ADA compliant?
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (X/Pw5)
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I love the "sidewalk ramps to nowhere" they installed in Detroit.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (eAZVt)
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Top 20
Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (dQF3z)
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Mornin' all.. So I see everything is still f'ed up
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (Zmnko)
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I have never understood the need for the ADA, as so much of its demands are simply anti-free-markets.
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I think you are onto something.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2020 11:03 AM (Hcsoi)
Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
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I think you are onto something.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 19, 2020 11:03 AM (Hcsoi)
Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
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FYI - ADA Act - lawyers sent people in wheelchairs
out looking for businesses that were out of compliance, or appeared to
be out of compliance, so they could sue.
Ask me how I know this.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM (WEBkv)
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We had a single guy here on the central coast of Kalifornia that shutdown tens of restaurants with his bogus ADA claims and law suits.
out looking for businesses that were out of compliance, or appeared to
be out of compliance, so they could sue.
Ask me how I know this.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM (WEBkv)
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We had a single guy here on the central coast of Kalifornia that shutdown tens of restaurants with his bogus ADA claims and law suits.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (pw+jk)
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How many hotels closed their pools rather than make them ADA compliant?
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (X/Pw5)
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Schools put off a lot of remodeling projects, in order to avoid ADA compliance, because of the cost.
Posted by: BignJames at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (X/Pw5)
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Schools put off a lot of remodeling projects, in order to avoid ADA compliance, because of the cost.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (WEBkv)
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Mrs. Muse and I watched the Clarence Thomas documentary last night, which didn't come on until 10pm out here.
On the whole, it wasn't worth staying up for. Not because it was bad, it was actually quite good, but we are familiar with Justice Thomas' story, so we really didn't learn anything new. But they did show some of the 1991 confirmation hearings and I got mad all over again. At one point, Thomas remarked "the thing that's so hard about these hearings is that you have to sit there attentively and listen to these guys who have no idea what they're talking about." And then they immediately cut to a clip of Joe Biden babbling on about natural law and positivism like he's trying to convince Thomas and everyone else who's watching that he's some big intellectual heavyweight. But it's hilariously obvious that he's not, he's just throwing words around that he just learned that day. Joe hasn't changed in 30 years. He was a babbling idiot then and he's a babbling idiot now.
On the whole, it wasn't worth staying up for. Not because it was bad, it was actually quite good, but we are familiar with Justice Thomas' story, so we really didn't learn anything new. But they did show some of the 1991 confirmation hearings and I got mad all over again. At one point, Thomas remarked "the thing that's so hard about these hearings is that you have to sit there attentively and listen to these guys who have no idea what they're talking about." And then they immediately cut to a clip of Joe Biden babbling on about natural law and positivism like he's trying to convince Thomas and everyone else who's watching that he's some big intellectual heavyweight. But it's hilariously obvious that he's not, he's just throwing words around that he just learned that day. Joe hasn't changed in 30 years. He was a babbling idiot then and he's a babbling idiot now.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (lfDrn)
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NJ Gym owners opened again today. Got cited again today.
Police delivering the summons was polite. Gym own saluted him.
Still an active situation because there are protestors about. Cops have said they may protest from their cars only. It might get sporty.
Police delivering the summons was polite. Gym own saluted him.
Still an active situation because there are protestors about. Cops have said they may protest from their cars only. It might get sporty.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (gd9RK)
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (G546f)
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Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
The plaintiff's bar in Texas was quite active then. That's just coincidence of course.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
The plaintiff's bar in Texas was quite active then. That's just coincidence of course.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (dLLD6)
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You know, if the NAZIs had invested in a superior riverine navy they might have taken Russia. Tanks only take you so far.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (QZCjk)
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Speaking as a disabled person the ADA is bullshit. It sucks to be disabled but the world does not revolve around me.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (0OmEj)
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I have never understood the need for the ADA, as so much of its demands are simply anti-free-markets. Well, to be fair, I do understand that much of it is driven by the plaintiff's bar, who salivate at the often unachievable demands and byzantine requirements of its thousands of pages of dense regulation.
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A local restaurant was hit by an ADA vigilante a few years ago. The sinks in his public bathrooms were an inch high or low (I forget which) and he nearly lost his business over it. No complaint, nothing. Just a lawsuit one day. Apparently the guy who filed the suit drives around and goes into restaurants with a tape measure to clandestinely look for ADA violations that he can then litigate.
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A local restaurant was hit by an ADA vigilante a few years ago. The sinks in his public bathrooms were an inch high or low (I forget which) and he nearly lost his business over it. No complaint, nothing. Just a lawsuit one day. Apparently the guy who filed the suit drives around and goes into restaurants with a tape measure to clandestinely look for ADA violations that he can then litigate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (hYcqw)
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We had a single guy here on the central coast of Kalifornia that shutdown tens of restaurants with his bogus ADA claims and law suits.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (pw+jk)
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Morro Bay, CA. Friends who owned a restaurant on the water got sued. They beat the lawsuit, but, only because they had deep pockets.
Probably the same guy in a wheel chair.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (pw+jk)
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Morro Bay, CA. Friends who owned a restaurant on the water got sued. They beat the lawsuit, but, only because they had deep pockets.
Probably the same guy in a wheel chair.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (XLJ/O)
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And when things finally do reopen the prices will be higher, some things will be in short supply and the Karen's will be even more vigilant.
i'm hoping it's one of those deals like when the Berlin Wall came down where and people just overwhelmed the guards and that was that.
i'm hoping it's one of those deals like when the Berlin Wall came down where and people just overwhelmed the guards and that was that.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (CqE5x)
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I love the "sidewalk ramps to nowhere" they installed in Detroit.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM
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The built a new four lane road on Texas Highway 121 in Anna. About 5-6 miles of brand new road with sidewalks and those ramps in the middle of cow pastures.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM
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The built a new four lane road on Texas Highway 121 in Anna. About 5-6 miles of brand new road with sidewalks and those ramps in the middle of cow pastures.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (JUOKG)
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Sturm stormed the thread.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:02 AM (WEBkv)
BLITZKREIG!!!
I need a bottle
of anything
and a jelly donut
to go...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:02 AM (WEBkv)
BLITZKREIG!!!
I need a bottle
of anything
and a jelly donut
to go...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (8D42x)
Posted by: That guy who always thinks it's beginning at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (4o2K3)
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ADA- Another Bush debacle.
Posted by: Valiant at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (3MiF8)
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I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen criticizing someone's appearance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
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In accordance with the ADA, I cannot be forced to wear a mask in order to engage in commerce. In accordance with HIPPA, I cannot be forced to disclose any medical conditions that I have.
It may be that I am incorrectly citing those laws, IANAL, but the person you're talking to won't know either.
It may be that I am incorrectly citing those laws, IANAL, but the person you're talking to won't know either.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (ExV1e)
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Caught part of Justice Thomas' documentary last night. Its on the DVR, and plan on watching it. I had no idea (or didn't remember) him coming from such humble beginnings. That left me that much more impressed by him.These are the people we should be celebrating.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (N39Ws)
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Here is WA state, Guv Inslee (Dickhead party) is patting himself on the back for Phase I of his reopening plan which is to let construction resume.
Whoa there big shifters...not so fast!
You need permits to begin construction. Permits from government agencies at the City, County and State levels. All of which are closed.
Idiots.
Whoa there big shifters...not so fast!
You need permits to begin construction. Permits from government agencies at the City, County and State levels. All of which are closed.
Idiots.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (axyOa)
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Pelosi is Queen of the Karen Waffen SS
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (XLJ/O)
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What are the chances said person is an employee of Mark Cuban, whom he has hired to rat out stores/small businesses opening before their Lefty state overlords have granted them permission to?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (bDqIh)
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Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
I thought that was Pre Bush - I remember my first boss in San Angelo bitching in 79 about the GTE GO having to install handicapped facilities in all the rest rooms on 6 floors for the 2 people we had who were 'disabled'.
Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
I thought that was Pre Bush - I remember my first boss in San Angelo bitching in 79 about the GTE GO having to install handicapped facilities in all the rest rooms on 6 floors for the 2 people we had who were 'disabled'.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (2mteh)
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I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling
the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen
criticizing someone's appearance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling
the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen
criticizing someone's appearance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
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Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
The plaintiff's bar in Texas was quite active then. That's just coincidence of course.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (dLLD6)
Plus seconds after it was signed alcoholism was declared a disability and it was here we go time.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (y7DUB)
The plaintiff's bar in Texas was quite active then. That's just coincidence of course.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (dLLD6)
Plus seconds after it was signed alcoholism was declared a disability and it was here we go time.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (y7DUB)
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Speaking of which, I suspect some of these stores restricting entrance and exit may be in trouble.
Local Safeway has handicapped parking at either door. But they have made one side entrance only and the other exit only. You can't park in handicapped parking without having to walk across to the other door at some point. It just negates having handicapped parking. (Yes I did survive, mainly because I wasn't wearing a mask.)
Local Safeway has handicapped parking at either door. But they have made one side entrance only and the other exit only. You can't park in handicapped parking without having to walk across to the other door at some point. It just negates having handicapped parking. (Yes I did survive, mainly because I wasn't wearing a mask.)
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (JKNZq)
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NJ Gym owners opened again today. Got cited again today.
Police delivering the summons was polite. Gym own saluted him.
Still an active situation because there are protestors about. Cops have said they may protest from their cars only. It might get sporty.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
ADA violations: GOOD!
1st Amendment rights: Bad!
Police delivering the summons was polite. Gym own saluted him.
Still an active situation because there are protestors about. Cops have said they may protest from their cars only. It might get sporty.
Posted by: Bandersnatch
ADA violations: GOOD!
1st Amendment rights: Bad!
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (vcOmj)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (gd9RK)
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It all " began" fifty years ago.
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (bCLt0)
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What are the chances said person is an employee of Mark Cuban, whom he has hired to rat out stores/small businesses opening before their Lefty state overlords have granted them permission to?
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (bDqIh)
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Or Soros.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (bDqIh)
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Or Soros.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (WEBkv)
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IN our neighborhood we alread hat the ramps at 45 degrees to the sidewalk corners. I don't know why they were all torn up but for one to make ramps that go 90 degrees to each other. These cost a lot more I would estimate ten times the 45 degree ones.
Then the best was an ADA state inspector comes out to make sure these super expensive ramps are in specification. Guess what one was out of spec to some fine detail that my engineer brain could not see so they had to rip that ramp up and redo it. I noticed no difference between new and old out of spec ramp.
Then the best was an ADA state inspector comes out to make sure these super expensive ramps are in specification. Guess what one was out of spec to some fine detail that my engineer brain could not see so they had to rip that ramp up and redo it. I noticed no difference between new and old out of spec ramp.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (pw+jk)
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Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
You mean the Model? LOL... Riiiight
Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
You mean the Model? LOL... Riiiight
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (Zmnko)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (XLJ/O)
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Caught part of Justice Thomas' documentary last night. Its on the DVR, and plan on watching it. I had no idea (or didn't remember) him coming from such humble beginnings. That left me that much more impressed by him.These are the people we should be celebrating.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (N39Ws)
+++++++++++
Not just humble beginnings. But from there to campus radical to hard worker to conservative jurist. I was struck by what he gave as the reason for his transformation. I am going from memory from several months ago, but it was along the lines of, "I wanted to know more about why we have this government. Why this government and not a monarchy? Why not an oligarchy? Why not a dictatorship?"
That took him to the source materials and related research.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (N39Ws)
+++++++++++
Not just humble beginnings. But from there to campus radical to hard worker to conservative jurist. I was struck by what he gave as the reason for his transformation. I am going from memory from several months ago, but it was along the lines of, "I wanted to know more about why we have this government. Why this government and not a monarchy? Why not an oligarchy? Why not a dictatorship?"
That took him to the source materials and related research.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 11:10 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Muldoon at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (Fc5rx)
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42
I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling
the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen
criticizing someone's appearance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
Jerry Nadler
I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling
the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen
criticizing someone's appearance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (ptqGC)
Jerry Nadler
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (N39Ws)
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Another Bush Crime Family signed fuck job on the country.
Posted by: Captain Hate
George H.W. LBGTQ Bush was all pretty proud of this "achievement" when he was running in 1992.
Forward!!! Uniparty must roll!
Watch more chaos unfurl.
Posted by: Captain Hate
George H.W. LBGTQ Bush was all pretty proud of this "achievement" when he was running in 1992.
Forward!!! Uniparty must roll!
Watch more chaos unfurl.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (vcOmj)
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It is amazing how where you stand on re-opening really all does come down to politics.
The Trump haters want things to remain shut
And the rest want things to open
The Trump haters want things to remain shut
And the rest want things to open
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (CqE5x)
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I thought that was Pre Bush - I remember my first boss in San Angelo bitching in 79 about the GTE GO having to install handicapped facilities in all the rest rooms on 6 floors for the 2 people we had who were 'disabled'.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (2mteh)
1990
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (2mteh)
1990
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (y7DUB)
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Okay, Nanzi. Now do Stacey Abrams.
Or Jerry Nadler.
Megs McCain... I know she's Preggers but still pre- Preggers
Or Jerry Nadler.
Megs McCain... I know she's Preggers but still pre- Preggers
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (Zmnko)
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>>NJ Gym owners opened again today. Got cited again today.
Police delivering the summons was polite. Gym own saluted him.
Still an active situation because there are protestors about. Cops have said they may protest from their cars only. It might get sporty.
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Ooh boy! An Oxford, MA gym opened today, also in defiance of governor's orders. No idea what's happened since I saw this on the a.m. news. . .
Police delivering the summons was polite. Gym own saluted him.
Still an active situation because there are protestors about. Cops have said they may protest from their cars only. It might get sporty.
- - -
Ooh boy! An Oxford, MA gym opened today, also in defiance of governor's orders. No idea what's happened since I saw this on the a.m. news. . .
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (bDqIh)
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25 You know, if the NAZIs had invested in a superior riverine navy they might have taken Russia. Tanks only take you so far.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (QZCjk)
If Hitler hadn't delayed his march on Moscow, they WOULD have taken Russia. Whether or not they could have kept it, is another matter.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (QZCjk)
If Hitler hadn't delayed his march on Moscow, they WOULD have taken Russia. Whether or not they could have kept it, is another matter.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (o2MD2)
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Inslee is an idiot. Oregon didn't shut down construction.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (JKNZq)
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FYI - ADA Act - lawyers sent people in wheelchairs
out looking for businesses that were out of compliance, or appeared to
be out of compliance, so they could sue.
Ask me how I know this.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM
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I don't mind handicap parking at a business...but why do they get the spaces up front? If they can drive, they can sure as hell walk a few extra feet.
out looking for businesses that were out of compliance, or appeared to
be out of compliance, so they could sue.
Ask me how I know this.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:04 AM
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I don't mind handicap parking at a business...but why do they get the spaces up front? If they can drive, they can sure as hell walk a few extra feet.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)
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I thought that was Pre Bush - I remember my first boss in San Angelo bitching in 79 about the GTE GO having to install handicapped facilities in all the rest rooms on 6 floors for the 2 people we had who were 'disabled'.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (2mteh)
The movement toward ADA DID start before Bush, but that wasn't ADA itself
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (2mteh)
The movement toward ADA DID start before Bush, but that wasn't ADA itself
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (CqE5x)
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You know who else spoke Georgian?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (gd9RK)
Stacey Abrams?
You know who else spoke Georgian?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (gd9RK)
Stacey Abrams?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (2mteh)
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Mrs. Muse and I watched the Clarence Thomas documentary last night,
I caught most of it. Young Clarence Thomas was jacked.
I caught most of it. Young Clarence Thomas was jacked.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (gd9RK)
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (QzF6i)
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In before Abundance of Caution!
Posted by: Roland THTG at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (88+cf)
69
If Adolph had bypassed Leningrad and Stalingrad to achieve taking Moscow and the oil fields, Iosef Stalin would still be stuck in the Urals.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (XLJ/O)
70
Megs McCain... I know she's Preggers but still pre- Preggers
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (Zmnko)
I can't believe her doctor didn't suggest she lose considerable weight before trying to conceive.
I was older than her when I was pregnant, and was fit and trim. She's at high risk of developing diabetes, etc.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (Zmnko)
I can't believe her doctor didn't suggest she lose considerable weight before trying to conceive.
I was older than her when I was pregnant, and was fit and trim. She's at high risk of developing diabetes, etc.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (ptqGC)
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61
25 You know, if the NAZIs had invested in a superior riverine navy they might have taken Russia. Tanks only take you so far.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (QZCjk)
If Hitler hadn't delayed his march on Moscow, they WOULD have taken
Russia. Whether or not they could have kept it, is another matter.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (o2MD2)
You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo, we'd all be speaking French.
25 You know, if the NAZIs had invested in a superior riverine navy they might have taken Russia. Tanks only take you so far.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (QZCjk)
If Hitler hadn't delayed his march on Moscow, they WOULD have taken
Russia. Whether or not they could have kept it, is another matter.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 19, 2020 11:11 AM (o2MD2)
You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo, we'd all be speaking French.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (2mteh)
72
I don't mind handicap parking at a business...but why do they get the spaces up front? If they can drive, they can sure as hell walk a few extra feet.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)
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My favorite are the people who have the tags, use the space and hop out of their vehicles without any effort.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)
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My favorite are the people who have the tags, use the space and hop out of their vehicles without any effort.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (WEBkv)
73
It appears the Governor is realizing his Executive Orders are not laws and they violate people's Constitutional rights.
What is the norm in Illinois when elected officials get exposed for violating the law? Change the law.
In this case, change the rules and make criminals out of the very people that are the economic engine in this state.
Not only do these new suggested rules invoke criminal penalties, but
they also are to last 150 days and are being pushed through in an
Emergency provision for such rule changes, meaning the public has little
say about it. Let that sink in. Under these proposed rules it appears
the Governor intends to continue with his oppressive overreach and lock
this state down into the middle of October.
Fines and jail time for business owners as the state lets criminals go including murders. Today, I heard the sheriff of DuPage county said he will no longer enforce the lock down. Fatso will have to send state police to arrest people. That is if they can be pried away from their speed traps
It appears the Governor is realizing his Executive Orders are not laws and they violate people's Constitutional rights.
What is the norm in Illinois when elected officials get exposed for violating the law? Change the law.
In this case, change the rules and make criminals out of the very people that are the economic engine in this state.
Not only do these new suggested rules invoke criminal penalties, but
they also are to last 150 days and are being pushed through in an
Emergency provision for such rule changes, meaning the public has little
say about it. Let that sink in. Under these proposed rules it appears
the Governor intends to continue with his oppressive overreach and lock
this state down into the middle of October.
Fines and jail time for business owners as the state lets criminals go including murders. Today, I heard the sheriff of DuPage county said he will no longer enforce the lock down. Fatso will have to send state police to arrest people. That is if they can be pried away from their speed traps
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (buXh6)
Posted by: The guy who useed to always say "and now it begins" at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (Fc5rx)
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I don't mind handicap parking at a business...but why do they get the spaces up front? If they can drive, they can sure as hell walk a few extra feet.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)
The problem is there use to be two or three spaces that were handicapped--and they weren't always taken.
Now there's like ten spaces and they are ALL taken.
There's too many people considered disabled now
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)
The problem is there use to be two or three spaces that were handicapped--and they weren't always taken.
Now there's like ten spaces and they are ALL taken.
There's too many people considered disabled now
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (CqE5x)
76
I just found out my chiropractor is open! I'm going to set up an appointment and have him adjust my back again. He's older than me, so I thought for sure he'd be shut down.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (JKNZq)
77
Willowed from art
*************
I sailed on her in '95 to Somalia for the final UN pullout. I've heard she is now part of a reef somewhere. Decommissioned 2000'ish?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:01 AM (axyOa)
I was on that cruise. she was sink-ex in early 00s i think it was.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (8D42x)
we're you on the return trip home? when the marines got us kicked out of Thailand?
*************
I sailed on her in '95 to Somalia for the final UN pullout. I've heard she is now part of a reef somewhere. Decommissioned 2000'ish?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:01 AM (axyOa)
I was on that cruise. she was sink-ex in early 00s i think it was.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (8D42x)
we're you on the return trip home? when the marines got us kicked out of Thailand?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (8D42x)
78
There's the old saying, which I'm paraphrasing here, because I don't feel like looking it up, that people who want big government should get it.
Good and hard.
And that's what we've been getting, through this China wuwu "crisis." It may take some more time, but eventually the straights are going to get some type of it that they don't like. That won't be a bad thing. If they actually learn something from it. Which many of them won't.
Good and hard.
And that's what we've been getting, through this China wuwu "crisis." It may take some more time, but eventually the straights are going to get some type of it that they don't like. That won't be a bad thing. If they actually learn something from it. Which many of them won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (hku12)
79
The movement toward ADA DID start before Bush, but that wasn't ADA itself
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (CqE5x)
Turns out, declaring private businesses to be some manner of a public facility was a really, really bad idea.
Then again, most well intentioned interferences are.
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (CqE5x)
Turns out, declaring private businesses to be some manner of a public facility was a really, really bad idea.
Then again, most well intentioned interferences are.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (v0qEa)
80
Years ago at a Grainger store I bought a nice 25 foot measuring tape that has all the dimensional requirements of the ADA printed on it in addition to the customary markings ... not because I need it, thank goodness, but just for the curiosity value.
" 8" min (D) x 27" clr knee space @ DF or lavy"
9" has 4 more.
" 11" min (W) of stair treads"
and that's only two of a great many.
" 8" min (D) x 27" clr knee space @ DF or lavy"
9" has 4 more.
" 11" min (W) of stair treads"
and that's only two of a great many.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (cqteU)
81
The government is only doing this bc they Kare about us.
Posted by: Ha at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (SJDa9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 19, 2020 11:15 AM (aKsyK)
83
We had a single guy here on the central coast of
Kalifornia that shutdown tens of restaurants with his bogus ADA claims
and law suits.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (pw+jk)
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Morro Bay, CA. Friends who owned a restaurant on the water got sued.
They beat the lawsuit, but, only because they had deep pockets.
Probably the same guy in a wheel chair.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (WEBkv)
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I'm sure it was he ranged from Morro Bay to Ventura. IIRC he put over ten restaurants out of business. A buddy had a breakfast joint and his bathrooms were totally out of compliance because it was built long ago so he fixed them and the guy got zero dollars because he had not got to Santa Barbara before he did that..
Kalifornia that shutdown tens of restaurants with his bogus ADA claims
and law suits.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (pw+jk)
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Morro Bay, CA. Friends who owned a restaurant on the water got sued.
They beat the lawsuit, but, only because they had deep pockets.
Probably the same guy in a wheel chair.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (WEBkv)
====
I'm sure it was he ranged from Morro Bay to Ventura. IIRC he put over ten restaurants out of business. A buddy had a breakfast joint and his bathrooms were totally out of compliance because it was built long ago so he fixed them and the guy got zero dollars because he had not got to Santa Barbara before he did that..
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 19, 2020 11:15 AM (pw+jk)
84
Taking Leningrad via the sea and river would have saved a lot of wear and tear on the machinery and men.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:15 AM (QZCjk)
85
If it saves just one monkey!!! Stay safe.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 11:15 AM (EgshT)
86
I am woman, hear me roar.
Posted by: Stacey Abrams at May 19, 2020 11:15 AM (QE8X6)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (XLJ/O)
88
>>Inslee is an idiot. Oregon didn't shut down construction.
Meanwhile Gov. De Santis announced the completion of several major highway bridges *3 months* ahead of schedule because he increased road construction during the shutdown!
Meanwhile Gov. De Santis announced the completion of several major highway bridges *3 months* ahead of schedule because he increased road construction during the shutdown!
Posted by: Lizzy at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (bDqIh)
89
Remember when we were asked to believe that Nancy Pelosi was the greatest political strategist of our time?
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
90
69 If Adolph had bypassed Leningrad and Stalingrad to achieve taking Moscow and the oil fields, Iosef Stalin would still be stuck in the Urals.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (XLJ/O)
He longed to graduate.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (XLJ/O)
He longed to graduate.
Posted by: Caliban at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (QE8X6)
91
I cross the Moon River and drive past Pin Point whenever I drive off the island.
Years ago when we moved my late mother up here into a nice retirement home near us, Judge Thomas' first cousin was (is) a good friend, and we paid him and another cousin to help us move Mother in.
My useless sister who was in Miami at the time, asked how the move went. I told her it went well, and Judge Thomas' cousin ______ helped us.
Her prog head nearly rocketed off her shoulders in disgust.
Years ago when we moved my late mother up here into a nice retirement home near us, Judge Thomas' first cousin was (is) a good friend, and we paid him and another cousin to help us move Mother in.
My useless sister who was in Miami at the time, asked how the move went. I told her it went well, and Judge Thomas' cousin ______ helped us.
Her prog head nearly rocketed off her shoulders in disgust.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (ptqGC)
92
37 Caught part of Justice Thomas' documentary last night. Its on the DVR, and plan on watching it. I had no idea (or didn't remember) him coming from such humble beginnings. That left me that much more impressed by him.These are the people we should be celebrating.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (N39Ws)
He was probably one of the last people in this country who knew poverty, and I mean *real* poverty, the kind where you busted your ass working all day long and were still poor.
His grandfather was a total hard-ass. I would not want to work for him. But he made Justice Thomas the man he is today.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:09 AM (N39Ws)
He was probably one of the last people in this country who knew poverty, and I mean *real* poverty, the kind where you busted your ass working all day long and were still poor.
His grandfather was a total hard-ass. I would not want to work for him. But he made Justice Thomas the man he is today.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:17 AM (lfDrn)
93
89
Remember when we were asked to believe that Nancy Pelosi was the greatest political strategist of our time?
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
Yet she remains in office. And will probably die there.
Remember when we were asked to believe that Nancy Pelosi was the greatest political strategist of our time?
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
Yet she remains in office. And will probably die there.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 11:17 AM (N39Ws)
94
Ooh boy! An Oxford, MA gym opened today, also in defiance of governor's orders
********
Exercising...
...their right to bare arms!
********
Exercising...
...their right to bare arms!
Posted by: The guy who useed to always say at May 19, 2020 11:17 AM (Fc5rx)
95
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
The Botox has had years to flatten the curves in her brain.
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
The Botox has had years to flatten the curves in her brain.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:17 AM (2mteh)
96
Fatso will have to send state police to arrest people. That is if they can be pried away from their speed traps
At which point the sheriffs *ought* to do more than refuse to enforce these orders, but should instead be sending the staties packing.
At which point the sheriffs *ought* to do more than refuse to enforce these orders, but should instead be sending the staties packing.
Posted by: Gman at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (GfWuY)
97
89 Remember when we were asked to believe that Nancy Pelosi was the greatest political strategist of our time?
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
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I've said for a while that she was never very good at politics.
It helped her greatly that she raised a lot of money for Democratic house members so they felt fealty towards her and that her opposition wasn't much of an opposition.
But she was never very good at building coalitions in any other way than through brute force, and it never worked on anyone who didn't rely on her for money.
She then...
Passed Obamacare and got murdered
Got reelected and immediately embraced impeachment
Now favors locking everyone in their homes
Pure genius right there.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (gAMkn)
==========
I've said for a while that she was never very good at politics.
It helped her greatly that she raised a lot of money for Democratic house members so they felt fealty towards her and that her opposition wasn't much of an opposition.
But she was never very good at building coalitions in any other way than through brute force, and it never worked on anyone who didn't rely on her for money.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (LvTSG)
98
67 I'm here.
Yesterday's black mood lifted.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (QzF6i)
Here's a cutie for ya sharon!
https://tinyurl.com/ybfo5hpv
67 I'm here.
Yesterday's black mood lifted.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (QzF6i)
Here's a cutie for ya sharon!
https://tinyurl.com/ybfo5hpv
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (o2MD2)
99
From Second City Cop:
Mayor GROOT is keeping all GYMS/Workout Facilities shutdown until a
Vaccine is not only developed but proven to be effective.She stated that
will occur when the City enters Level 5 of her Restore Chicago Plan.
I have a family friend on the Niles Town Board who related that GROOT
has been in contact with bordering suburban Mayors in an effort to get
their towns non essential businesses to remain closed until Chicago
opens.This Bitch is something else.Can you imagine taking a phone call
from her to keep your town shutdown until she gives you the O.K. to
open?
Keep the gyms closed and have cops block church parking lots meanwhile this past weekend saw 6 shot dead and 35 wounded. Chicago is now in its death spiral
Mayor GROOT is keeping all GYMS/Workout Facilities shutdown until a
Vaccine is not only developed but proven to be effective.She stated that
will occur when the City enters Level 5 of her Restore Chicago Plan.
I have a family friend on the Niles Town Board who related that GROOT
has been in contact with bordering suburban Mayors in an effort to get
their towns non essential businesses to remain closed until Chicago
opens.This Bitch is something else.Can you imagine taking a phone call
from her to keep your town shutdown until she gives you the O.K. to
open?
Keep the gyms closed and have cops block church parking lots meanwhile this past weekend saw 6 shot dead and 35 wounded. Chicago is now in its death spiral
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (buXh6)
100
Those pancakes would have to be some damn fine pancakes for anybody to wait outside.
Fresh blueberries, creamery butter, free range eggs over easy, crisp applewood smoked bacon, gourmet coffee harvested by virgins in sundresses...
You get the picture.
Fresh blueberries, creamery butter, free range eggs over easy, crisp applewood smoked bacon, gourmet coffee harvested by virgins in sundresses...
You get the picture.
Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (95j/9)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (2mteh)
102
Pelosi is no Henry Clay.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
103
>>You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo, we'd all be speaking French. Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (2mteh)
You guys--if Lee had had an A-10 at Gettysburg, Stacey Abrams still wouldn't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies.
You guys--if Lee had had an A-10 at Gettysburg, Stacey Abrams still wouldn't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (qXNVo)
104
The Botox has had years to flatten the curves in her brain.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:17 AM (2mteh)
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Nancy has almost as many episodes as Joe Biden, yet, the D's cling to her "leadership."
It's really odd.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:17 AM (2mteh)
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Nancy has almost as many episodes as Joe Biden, yet, the D's cling to her "leadership."
It's really odd.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (WEBkv)
105
Fines and jail time for business owners as the state lets criminals go including murders. Today, I heard the sheriff of DuPage county said he will no longer enforce the lock down. Fatso will have to send state police to arrest people. That is if they can be pried away from their speed traps
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (buXh6)
And donut shops.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (buXh6)
And donut shops.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (lfDrn)
106
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)
The problem is there use to be two or three spaces that were handicapped--and they weren't always taken.
Now there's like ten spaces and they are ALL taken.
There's too many people considered disabled now
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (CqE5x)
Why, it's almost as if incentivizing "disability" by paying people not to work, and giving them all sorts of other breaks, financial and otherwise, you greatly increase the number of people who claim disability.
Almost.
The problem is there use to be two or three spaces that were handicapped--and they weren't always taken.
Now there's like ten spaces and they are ALL taken.
There's too many people considered disabled now
Posted by: JoeF. at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (CqE5x)
Why, it's almost as if incentivizing "disability" by paying people not to work, and giving them all sorts of other breaks, financial and otherwise, you greatly increase the number of people who claim disability.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (hku12)
107
103 >>You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo, we'd all be speaking French. Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (2mteh)
You guys--if Lee had had an A-10 at Gettysburg, Stacey Abrams still wouldn't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (qXNVo)
==========
What if Alexander had some penicillin?
You guys--if Lee had had an A-10 at Gettysburg, Stacey Abrams still wouldn't know nothin' 'bout birthin' no babies.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (qXNVo)
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What if Alexander had some penicillin?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
108
Apparently the guy who filed the suit drives around and goes into restaurants with a tape measure to clandestinely look for ADA violations that he can then litigate.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (hYcqw)
Why are assholes like that not hunted down, and the shit beaten out of them?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:07 AM (hYcqw)
Why are assholes like that not hunted down, and the shit beaten out of them?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LZcDP)
109
Sounds like a movie title...
Kicked out of Thailand by a LadyBoi - The Beto O'Rourke Story.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (XLJ/O)
so, the "hero" get's it in the end?
Kicked out of Thailand by a LadyBoi - The Beto O'Rourke Story.
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:16 AM (XLJ/O)
so, the "hero" get's it in the end?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (8D42x)
110
I'm really starting to think that this whole locked crap is a way to cover up for a global finance meltdown. It's not just the US that is hurting, it is the world.
As for when it will end... it will not end until they remove Trump from office. And then maybe not even then; the tyrant governors like their control, and they can use this to oppress people for eternity.
As for when it will end... it will not end until they remove Trump from office. And then maybe not even then; the tyrant governors like their control, and they can use this to oppress people for eternity.
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (ZCiJZ)
111
If Hitler had a Borg cube and Stalin had an Imperial Star Destroyer, who would win?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (oVJmc)
112
Willowed from art
*************
I sailed on her in '95 to Somalia for the final UN pullout. I've heard she is now part of a reef somewhere. Decommissioned 2000'ish?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:01 AM (axyOa)
I was on that cruise. she was sink-ex in early 00s i think it was.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (8D42x)
we're you on the return trip home? when the marines got us kicked out of Thailand?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM
***
I was the commander of the CISE, a CENTCOM Intel Support Element working for LTG Zinni and his 2. We didn't make the return cruise. We went ashore and flew out to Mombasa just before the ship headed out. Then headed back to CENTCOM.
*************
I sailed on her in '95 to Somalia for the final UN pullout. I've heard she is now part of a reef somewhere. Decommissioned 2000'ish?
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:01 AM (axyOa)
I was on that cruise. she was sink-ex in early 00s i think it was.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:05 AM (8D42x)
we're you on the return trip home? when the marines got us kicked out of Thailand?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM
***
I was the commander of the CISE, a CENTCOM Intel Support Element working for LTG Zinni and his 2. We didn't make the return cruise. We went ashore and flew out to Mombasa just before the ship headed out. Then headed back to CENTCOM.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (axyOa)
113
I do appreciate handicapped parking. Having a movement disorder makes the trek from or to the car a challenge what I don't appreciate is the Karen's telling me I'm not disabled enough to use them. At church (mass is on again with limits. We had to reserve a spot) a Karen had to tell me she was surprised to see me out of the wheelchair. I was using a service dog to walk. As I said above being disabled sucks.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (0OmEj)
114
>>What if Alexander had some penicillin? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
He'd have still died of AIDS.
He'd have still died of AIDS.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (u4/yY)
115
If Hitler had a Borg cube and Stalin had an Imperial Star Destroyer, who would win?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (oVJmc)
Ditka
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (oVJmc)
Ditka
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (buXh6)
116
Willowed:
KarenWaffe: a single Karen
KarenWaffen: all the Karen's in the Unit
Next is "KarenWaffen SS".
I haven't come up with a suitable Deutsche Acronym for "SS" in this instance...
Posted by: USMC 8541
Super Scold
KarenWaffe: a single Karen
KarenWaffen: all the Karen's in the Unit
Next is "KarenWaffen SS".
I haven't come up with a suitable Deutsche Acronym for "SS" in this instance...
Posted by: USMC 8541
Super Scold
Posted by: rickb223 at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (dfEoR)
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114 >>What if Alexander had some penicillin? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
He'd have still died of AIDS.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (u4/yY)
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From the time traveling monkeys?
He'd have still died of AIDS.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:20 AM (u4/yY)
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From the time traveling monkeys?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (LvTSG)
118
What if Alexander had some penicillin?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
Hey hey! What if some strange force propelled modern Nantucket Island back into the age of Troy!
What if Alexander had some penicillin?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LvTSG)
Hey hey! What if some strange force propelled modern Nantucket Island back into the age of Troy!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (2mteh)
119
You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo, we'd all be speaking French.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (2mteh)
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Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:13 AM (2mteh)
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Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
120
Mayor GROOT is keeping all GYMS/Workout Facilities shutdown until a
Vaccine is not only developed but proven to be effective.
I love when politicians science.
Mayor GROOT is keeping all GYMS/Workout Facilities shutdown until a
Vaccine is not only developed but proven to be effective.
I love when politicians science.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (oVJmc)
121
Good morning HQ. Hoping it warms up a little.
Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (zUdXR)
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (G546f)
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Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:06 AM (lfDrn)
That was exactly my reaction. I was heartened to hear that Thomas didn't even watch Hill's testimony which I did likewise because I thought the whole fiasco debased the country and was a giant embarrassment. I wish they'd stop televising almost all of these hearings because the politicians are too fucking retarded to act responsibly.
That was exactly my reaction. I was heartened to hear that Thomas didn't even watch Hill's testimony which I did likewise because I thought the whole fiasco debased the country and was a giant embarrassment. I wish they'd stop televising almost all of these hearings because the politicians are too fucking retarded to act responsibly.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (y7DUB)
124
Years ago, my late husband bought a commercial building with some partners that had some store fronts, apartments and a vast unused space in the middle of the building. The idea was to move their business office into one of the store fronts and a karate studio they also ran into the center area. That area was currently accessed by a loading dock that they intended to build stairs and a ramp. The city arrived and said that the ramp was too steep and they would have to install an elevator, not a chair lift, but a full size elevator so people in wheelchairs could access a karate studio. That area of the building was never utilized. Needless to say, they never made any money on the building acquisition and loat significant money on the sale.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (QzF6i)
125
hiya
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (arJlL)
126
I hate the Bushes and their minions
including but not limited to Dana Purina
a bunch of phony fuckers
including but not limited to Dana Purina
a bunch of phony fuckers
Posted by: REDACTED at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (UUUON)
127
Keep the gyms closed and have cops block church parking lots meanwhile this past weekend saw 6 shot dead and 35 wounded. Chicago is now in its death spiral
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (buXh6)
Meanwhile, here in Oregon, a judge agreed with a group of churches that the 'state of emergency ' extension ordered by governor Kate 'Karen' Brown needs legislative approval and the ban on church gatherings is unconstitutional.
Karen contested the decision and so now it's going to the state supreme court.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (buXh6)
Meanwhile, here in Oregon, a judge agreed with a group of churches that the 'state of emergency ' extension ordered by governor Kate 'Karen' Brown needs legislative approval and the ban on church gatherings is unconstitutional.
Karen contested the decision and so now it's going to the state supreme court.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (lfDrn)
128
I'm really starting to think that this whole locked crap is a way to cover up for a global finance meltdown. It's not just the US that is hurting, it is the world.
I'm sure plenty of Ds and a few Rs are looking at all that sweet, sweet IRA and 401K money - just begging to be swapped out for a nice government IOU.
I'm sure plenty of Ds and a few Rs are looking at all that sweet, sweet IRA and 401K money - just begging to be swapped out for a nice government IOU.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (v0qEa)
129
Said this over at insty's place:
I was in a grocery yesterday, shopping for friends who are properly in quarantine, because they had the Wuhan Lung Plague. (I drop the stuff off on their front porch, sans mask.)
Standing by myself, looking at my list, minding my own business. So a masked man and woman came around the corner of the aisle, and said "just loud enough" through his mask so i could hear: "there's another one." She answered in a long-suffering, mask-muffled tone, " I know..."
Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
I was in a grocery yesterday, shopping for friends who are properly in quarantine, because they had the Wuhan Lung Plague. (I drop the stuff off on their front porch, sans mask.)
Standing by myself, looking at my list, minding my own business. So a masked man and woman came around the corner of the aisle, and said "just loud enough" through his mask so i could hear: "there's another one." She answered in a long-suffering, mask-muffled tone, " I know..."
Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
130
Hey hey! What if some strange force propelled modern Nantucket Island back into the age of Troy!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (2mteh)
119 You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo
that was such a great book
shame the author turned sjw
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (2mteh)
119 You guys - If Napoleon had had a Sherman Tank at Waterloo
that was such a great book
shame the author turned sjw
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (G546f)
131
What non-progressive would choose to remain in Chicago or Illinois for that matter?
Being stuck is one thing. Having the ability to leave and not doing so is another.
Being stuck is one thing. Having the ability to leave and not doing so is another.
Posted by: LOL at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (SJDa9)
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Why, it's almost as if incentivizing "disability" by paying people not to work, and giving them all sorts of other breaks, financial and otherwise, you greatly increase the number of people who claim disability.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (hku12)
+++++++++
Not to mention that the states encourage disability fraud and will help you commit it.
Disability is federal. Welfare is state. If you're on welfare, you'll find plenty of resources to help you "navigate" the disability system. Every person that can be transferred from welfare to disability is moved off of the state rolls and onto the federal roles.
Disability fraud is a huge problem, not only because it consumes money and encourages bad behavior, but also because it delegitimizes the program and leads to people to question if you're *really* disabled.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (hku12)
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Not to mention that the states encourage disability fraud and will help you commit it.
Disability is federal. Welfare is state. If you're on welfare, you'll find plenty of resources to help you "navigate" the disability system. Every person that can be transferred from welfare to disability is moved off of the state rolls and onto the federal roles.
Disability fraud is a huge problem, not only because it consumes money and encourages bad behavior, but also because it delegitimizes the program and leads to people to question if you're *really* disabled.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (hYcqw)
133
How about we don't pay taxes until there's a vaccine for Covid? Would the pols be okay with that timeline?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (oVJmc)
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/sock
Posted by: Muldoon at May 19, 2020 11:24 AM (Fc5rx)
135
I haven't come up with a suitable Deutsche Acronym for "SS" in this instance...
Posted by: USMC 8541
I'm going with SnitchStaffel.
Posted by: USMC 8541
I'm going with SnitchStaffel.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:24 AM (axyOa)
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Why are assholes like that not hunted down, and the shit beaten out of them?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LZcDP)
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Vigilantism isn't in vogue at the moment.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (LZcDP)
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Vigilantism isn't in vogue at the moment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:24 AM (hYcqw)
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ADA compliance remediation has been very good to me. That's part of my work, going around to various stores owned by a major corporation and fixing their problems.
I will grant that some of the regulations seem stupid. But having been confined to a wheelchair, albeit temporarily, I can definitely see where some of the rules came from. Like the five foot clear radius so a disabled person has room to turn around. Or the clear space in waiting areas labeled for ADA. There's also the maximum slopes rules for any ADA access in a parking lot. I could go on.
I will grant that some of the regulations seem stupid. But having been confined to a wheelchair, albeit temporarily, I can definitely see where some of the rules came from. Like the five foot clear radius so a disabled person has room to turn around. Or the clear space in waiting areas labeled for ADA. There's also the maximum slopes rules for any ADA access in a parking lot. I could go on.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 19, 2020 11:24 AM (JY0wd)
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Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
139
Turns out, declaring private businesses to be some manner of a public facility was a really, really bad idea.
Then again, most well intentioned interferences are.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (v0qEa)
Public accommodations... one of the more insidious concepts that has taken hold in society. There's almost no such thing as private property anymore, and if they push through this tracer business, your home won't be either.
About the only places that are still private property are Bohemian Grove and Epstein Island.
Then again, most well intentioned interferences are.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (v0qEa)
Public accommodations... one of the more insidious concepts that has taken hold in society. There's almost no such thing as private property anymore, and if they push through this tracer business, your home won't be either.
About the only places that are still private property are Bohemian Grove and Epstein Island.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (hku12)
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At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one has said anything to me.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
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eventually the straights are going to get some type of it that they don't like. That won't be a bad thing. If they actually learn something from it. Which many of them won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (hku12)
Many of them won't.
It needs to be said again and again.
Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared. Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared shitless people. They won't be reached.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (hku12)
Many of them won't.
It needs to be said again and again.
Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared. Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared shitless people. They won't be reached.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (z79tQ)
142
So, how long before the Powers that Be proclaim that work for "non-essentials" is never coming back and we need UBI immediately?
Posted by: shibumi, living in CV1984 at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (ZCiJZ)
143
131 What non-progressive would choose to remain in Chicago or Illinois for that matter?
Being stuck is one thing. Having the ability to leave and not doing so is another.
Posted by: LOL at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (SJDa9)
This statement could be expanded to many many cities. The joys of urban living must outweigh the, shall we say, drawbacks. The 3 am open restaurant thing. Oh, wait, not so much anymore.
Being stuck is one thing. Having the ability to leave and not doing so is another.
Posted by: LOL at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (SJDa9)
This statement could be expanded to many many cities. The joys of urban living must outweigh the, shall we say, drawbacks. The 3 am open restaurant thing. Oh, wait, not so much anymore.
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (bCLt0)
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140 At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one has said anything to me.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
Sounds like your dentist doesn't want people to see what he's doing to your teeth.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
Sounds like your dentist doesn't want people to see what he's doing to your teeth.
Posted by: Caliban at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (QE8X6)
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138 Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
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It's nothing compared to the major fuck up that led to the stealth bombing of Stonewall Jackson's position at Chancellorsville.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
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It's nothing compared to the major fuck up that led to the stealth bombing of Stonewall Jackson's position at Chancellorsville.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
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Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
We're gonna need those proverbial ten-foot poles pretty soon.
I bought a new hardwood broom handle from Amazon, one of the cheap tubular push-broom handles broke pushing lava mulch around in the front yard.
$8 and it showed up in a box big enough to ship a decent Yahaha electric piano.
We're gonna need those proverbial ten-foot poles pretty soon.
I bought a new hardwood broom handle from Amazon, one of the cheap tubular push-broom handles broke pushing lava mulch around in the front yard.
$8 and it showed up in a box big enough to ship a decent Yahaha electric piano.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (8erNz)
147
Shit, if the Confederates had 60mm mortars they would have won at Gettysburg.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (QZCjk)
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>>140
At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing
them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one
has said anything to me. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
Too right--they're the modern face-condom.
Everyone should have the choice of wearing one.
Some should be made to wear them.
At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing
them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one
has said anything to me. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
Too right--they're the modern face-condom.
Everyone should have the choice of wearing one.
Some should be made to wear them.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (qXNVo)
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146 Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
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"I definitely have the 'rona. Want a hug?"
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"I definitely have the 'rona. Want a hug?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (LvTSG)
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Here's a cutie for ya sharon!
https://tinyurl.com/ybfo5hpv
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (o2MD2
Adorable! Could have really used this yesterday.
https://tinyurl.com/ybfo5hpv
Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 19, 2020 11:18 AM (o2MD2
Adorable! Could have really used this yesterday.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (QzF6i)
151
hat was such a great book
shame the author turned sjw
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (G546f)
Did he? I haven't read anything of his in years. There were a couple of other good authors that seemed to feel the need to go down that path as well.
I promise I won't if I ever write anything beyond smart ass comments
shame the author turned sjw
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (G546f)
Did he? I haven't read anything of his in years. There were a couple of other good authors that seemed to feel the need to go down that path as well.
I promise I won't if I ever write anything beyond smart ass comments
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:28 AM (2mteh)
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Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
I really don't blame J.E.B.
He was running low on fuel for his motorcycles, so he had to expend half his force with gas cans, fanning out looking for trucks and tractors from which to siphon fuel, instead of dealing with Meade's missile batteries.
There weren't a lot of tractors in rural Pennsylvania in those days.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
I really don't blame J.E.B.
He was running low on fuel for his motorcycles, so he had to expend half his force with gas cans, fanning out looking for trucks and tractors from which to siphon fuel, instead of dealing with Meade's missile batteries.
There weren't a lot of tractors in rural Pennsylvania in those days.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:28 AM (hku12)
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The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Well, that and he was travelling on a narrow road so Custer's Abrams tanks and mechanized artillery were able to prevent his progress.
Well, that and he was travelling on a narrow road so Custer's Abrams tanks and mechanized artillery were able to prevent his progress.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 19, 2020 11:28 AM (gd9RK)
154
We're so pleased that people can be incarcerated for not following "recommendations".
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 11:29 AM (EgshT)
155
Meanwhile, here in Oregon, a judge agreed with a
group of churches that the 'state of emergency ' extension ordered by
governor Kate 'Karen' Brown needs legislative approval and the ban on
church gatherings is unconstitutional.
Karen contested the decision and so now it's going to the state supreme court.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (lfDrn)
The Illinois legislature is supposed to meet tomorrow (the first time in 2 months) and Jabba wants them to give him those emergency powers for 150 days. He only has them for 30 which expired at the end of April. The Republicans are in a super minority and pretty useless no matter what. I have to imagine that even Democrats are getting an earful from people about reopening. They have to see their districts are dying.
group of churches that the 'state of emergency ' extension ordered by
governor Kate 'Karen' Brown needs legislative approval and the ban on
church gatherings is unconstitutional.
Karen contested the decision and so now it's going to the state supreme court.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (lfDrn)
The Illinois legislature is supposed to meet tomorrow (the first time in 2 months) and Jabba wants them to give him those emergency powers for 150 days. He only has them for 30 which expired at the end of April. The Republicans are in a super minority and pretty useless no matter what. I have to imagine that even Democrats are getting an earful from people about reopening. They have to see their districts are dying.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:29 AM (buXh6)
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144 140 At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one has said anything to me.
My dentist is a family friend, went over for some 'emergency' work a few days ago. Mask through the door, rinse with dilute h2o2, remove mask, chat for a bit, get in the chair, he dons facial apparatus and gets to work.
My dentist is a family friend, went over for some 'emergency' work a few days ago. Mask through the door, rinse with dilute h2o2, remove mask, chat for a bit, get in the chair, he dons facial apparatus and gets to work.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:29 AM (8erNz)
157
Standing by myself, looking at my list, minding my
own business. So a masked man and woman came around the corner of the
aisle, and said "just loud enough" through his mask so i could hear:
"there's another one." She answered in a long-suffering, mask-muffled
tone, " I know..."
Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
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I call these people the Cult of the Mask.
own business. So a masked man and woman came around the corner of the
aisle, and said "just loud enough" through his mask so i could hear:
"there's another one." She answered in a long-suffering, mask-muffled
tone, " I know..."
Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
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I call these people the Cult of the Mask.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:29 AM (ptqGC)
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I worked with a young woman that had pancreatic cancer. It did kill her. But while she was on chemo, she had a handicapped permit. She went to her car after shopping and someone had put a note on her car about how she wasn't disabled and shouldn't be using that spot. Karens have been with us for awhile.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (JKNZq)
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>>138
Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
The root cause of the Confederacy's loss was Ashley Wilkes.
Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
The root cause of the Confederacy's loss was Ashley Wilkes.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (qXNVo)
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I think the inability of many ADA rules to be in compliance during current application of corona safe spacing rules would be a great turd to drop into these neighborhood Karen websites. Might generate some interesting cognitive dissonance-y discussion.
Posted by: corn and beans at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (tkNkP)
161
I've seen in several articles now that "social distancing" was invented by a high school kid and laughed at by epidemiologists for being being too destructive back in the mid aughts.
Does anyone know of source material for that?
Does anyone know of source material for that?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (hYcqw)
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Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
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It's nothing compared to the major fuck up that led to the stealth bombing of Stonewall Jackson's position at Chancellorsville.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
Nonsense. Jackson was able to deal with the stealth bombers the way he always did.
His big problem was not having issued his front line troops, night vision goggles.
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It's nothing compared to the major fuck up that led to the stealth bombing of Stonewall Jackson's position at Chancellorsville.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)
Nonsense. Jackson was able to deal with the stealth bombers the way he always did.
His big problem was not having issued his front line troops, night vision goggles.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)
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Shit, if the Confederates had 60mm mortars they would have won at Gettysburg.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM
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In Harry turtledove's world time travelers came back to 1863 and gave Lee AK-47's and he won the War and later became President of the Confederacy.
Posted by: Puddi Head at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM
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In Harry turtledove's world time travelers came back to 1863 and gave Lee AK-47's and he won the War and later became President of the Confederacy.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (JUOKG)
164
I hate hate hate disability frauds. I have to justify myself being on disability because some assholes faked disability. I am grateful for ssdi but hate being unable to work. I still feel like I need to justify myself as being disabled because people take it all the time. Fuck the frauds. Fuck them to hell.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (0OmEj)
165
That's why the restaurant leaders at the WH yesterday all said they need protection from frivolous lawsuits. Trump is on board of course but he said the Dems aren't.
This will take some politicking. I hope Trump puts out 20 tweets about whose fault it is when the liability protection fails.
This will take some politicking. I hope Trump puts out 20 tweets about whose fault it is when the liability protection fails.
Posted by: PJ at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (qlTN9)
166
Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared. Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared shitless people. They won't be reached.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (z79tQ)
There's something about this nonsense that really reaches down and grabs hold of some people's feelz. I can't quite describe it - and I sure as Hell can't predict it - but it's easy to see.
Makes 'em shrill - and kinda' spastic. And they can't shut up about it.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (z79tQ)
There's something about this nonsense that really reaches down and grabs hold of some people's feelz. I can't quite describe it - and I sure as Hell can't predict it - but it's easy to see.
Makes 'em shrill - and kinda' spastic. And they can't shut up about it.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (v0qEa)
167
Nonsense. Jackson was able to deal with the stealth bombers the way he always did.
His big problem was not having issued his front line troops, night vision goggles.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)
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Probably also had the early AR's that jammed easily when they got a bit dirty.
Nonsense. Jackson was able to deal with the stealth bombers the way he always did.
His big problem was not having issued his front line troops, night vision goggles.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)
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Probably also had the early AR's that jammed easily when they got a bit dirty.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (WEBkv)
168
152 Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
169
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
THIS! THIS!!
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
THIS! THIS!!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (2mteh)
170
Karens have been with us for awhile.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (JKNZq)
Like the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas, they will always be with us. Like mosquitoes and roaches.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (JKNZq)
Like the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas, they will always be with us. Like mosquitoes and roaches.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
171
Hmmm, yesterday I visited a (probably) ADA noncompliant liquor store. Nope, not naming names.
This store was among the first to switch over to curbside pickup after a phone order only -- No one admitted to the store. So I moved my business to a store down the road where you could still enter the joint.
They still are not admitting customers at store #1, but they are allowing orders at the blocked off door (now acting as a driveup window), followed by payment via a box on the table, followed by them sliding the change back in said box plus the actual product.
Much reaching involved. A sue crazed wheelchair bound lawyer, like that cat in CA that did that shit for a living, would likely bring suit. And extort $10-25k from the struggling business. *spits*
PS The asshole finally fucked up by suing a place owned by Clint Eastwood, with deep pockets, and got pwned by Clint's lawyers. The rest of the victims, not so much.
This is why I hope Congress passes an immunity bill on lawsuits against businesses during the CCPV shitshow. But not make so broad that it protects UberKarens in gubmint violating our civil rights.
Cuz they need to feel the heat. Bigly.
This store was among the first to switch over to curbside pickup after a phone order only -- No one admitted to the store. So I moved my business to a store down the road where you could still enter the joint.
They still are not admitting customers at store #1, but they are allowing orders at the blocked off door (now acting as a driveup window), followed by payment via a box on the table, followed by them sliding the change back in said box plus the actual product.
Much reaching involved. A sue crazed wheelchair bound lawyer, like that cat in CA that did that shit for a living, would likely bring suit. And extort $10-25k from the struggling business. *spits*
PS The asshole finally fucked up by suing a place owned by Clint Eastwood, with deep pockets, and got pwned by Clint's lawyers. The rest of the victims, not so much.
This is why I hope Congress passes an immunity bill on lawsuits against businesses during the CCPV shitshow. But not make so broad that it protects UberKarens in gubmint violating our civil rights.
Cuz they need to feel the heat. Bigly.
Posted by: GnuBreed at May 19, 2020 11:32 AM (Z4rgH)
172
...So I'm sittin' there,
I'm sittin' there on the Group W bench.
And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one,
the meanest father-raper of them all
was comin' over to me.
And he was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible
and all kinds of things
and he sat down next to me and said,
"Kid, what'd you get?"
I said, I didn't get nothin',
I had to pay $50 and stay in my house.
He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Swimming."
And they all moved away from me on the bench there,
and the hairy eyeball and mean, nasty things
until I said, "And resisting Governor Cuomo."
Then they all came back,
shook my hand, and we had a great time...
I'm sittin' there on the Group W bench.
And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one,
the meanest father-raper of them all
was comin' over to me.
And he was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible
and all kinds of things
and he sat down next to me and said,
"Kid, what'd you get?"
I said, I didn't get nothin',
I had to pay $50 and stay in my house.
He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?"
And I said, "Swimming."
And they all moved away from me on the bench there,
and the hairy eyeball and mean, nasty things
until I said, "And resisting Governor Cuomo."
Then they all came back,
shook my hand, and we had a great time...
Posted by: mindful webworker
link: Slaying Dragons
at May 19, 2020 11:32 AM (ATv6t)
173
Why, it's almost as if incentivizing "disability" by paying people not to work, and giving them all sorts of other breaks, financial and otherwise, you greatly increase the number of people who claim disability.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (hku12)
There are two ways you can run a society:
You can elevate need over ability, which causes need and perceived need to grow until ability is overwhelmed, or you can elevate ability over need, which causes ability to grow until all needs are met.
Almost.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:19 AM (hku12)
There are two ways you can run a society:
You can elevate need over ability, which causes need and perceived need to grow until ability is overwhelmed, or you can elevate ability over need, which causes ability to grow until all needs are met.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 19, 2020 11:32 AM (J+mig)
174
What's the over/under on the first lawsuit filed because some SJW
vegan/fatty/furry/non-binary/soy-eater is offended by some terminally
embarrassed coffee joint employee politely asking to take its
temperature, or some wheelchair-bound "activist" being forced to wait
outside in the rain while his pancakes are cooked?
If there is a class-action I will be happy to join.
vegan/fatty/furry/non-binary/soy-eater is offended by some terminally
embarrassed coffee joint employee politely asking to take its
temperature, or some wheelchair-bound "activist" being forced to wait
outside in the rain while his pancakes are cooked?
If there is a class-action I will be happy to join.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 19, 2020 11:33 AM (WvQcX)
175
I've seen in several articles now that "social
distancing" was invented by a high school kid and laughed at by
epidemiologists for being being too destructive back in the mid aughts.
Does anyone know of source material for that?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM
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I read that yesterday but I can't remember where I saw it.
It was some kid in England who allegedly came up with the social distancing thing when the bird flu was going on.
distancing" was invented by a high school kid and laughed at by
epidemiologists for being being too destructive back in the mid aughts.
Does anyone know of source material for that?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM
---
I read that yesterday but I can't remember where I saw it.
It was some kid in England who allegedly came up with the social distancing thing when the bird flu was going on.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:33 AM (JUOKG)
176
152 Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Were these A-10s captured, because indigenous manufacturing...watching the South try to manufacture a 'what's this thing called a turbofan?' never mind forging wing spar stuff would be a great youtube video.
Oh wait, no youtube either.
Were these A-10s captured, because indigenous manufacturing...watching the South try to manufacture a 'what's this thing called a turbofan?' never mind forging wing spar stuff would be a great youtube video.
Oh wait, no youtube either.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:33 AM (8erNz)
177
Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
Harry Turtledove has nothing on the horde...
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
Harry Turtledove has nothing on the horde...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (8D42x)
178
Had the pleasure of making several trips out east a few years back and visited many civil war battlefields between events. Seemed to be a trend that really shitty things happened when you tried to fight uphill.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (OhQi4)
179
Who is Walter Olson, and what is his website?
Posted by: OMD at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (rAPmY)
180
>>Like the Bushes, Clintons and Obamas, they will always be with us. Like mosquitoes and roaches Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (ptqGC)
It was twenty years ago, but I remember it like it happened yesterday.
Clinton leaves office, and I recall thinking, "Well, phew, we're done with those grasping Snopeses. Sheesh--let them take the White House china, if that's the price of never hearing from them again."
Sigh.
It was twenty years ago, but I remember it like it happened yesterday.
Clinton leaves office, and I recall thinking, "Well, phew, we're done with those grasping Snopeses. Sheesh--let them take the White House china, if that's the price of never hearing from them again."
Sigh.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (qXNVo)
181
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
Woah! woah! Hold up there hoss.
They already had the cracking facilities for converting coal to usable fuel for combustion engines, and the Brits were running the planes parts in through the blockade with additional parts flowing in from Mexico via Kirbysmithdom. That's why it was so important for Grant to take Vicksburg and cut the flow of supplies from the Western Confederacy!
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
Woah! woah! Hold up there hoss
. They already had the cracking facilities for converting coal to usable fuel for combustion engines, and the Brits were running the planes parts in through the blockade with additional parts flowing in from Mexico via Kirbysmithdom. That's why it was so important for Grant to take Vicksburg and cut the flow of supplies from the Western Confederacy!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (2mteh)
182
eventually the straights are going to get some type of it that they don't like. That won't be a bad thing. If they actually learn something from it. Which many of them won't.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (hku12)
Many of them won't.
It needs to be said again and again.
Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared. Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared shitless people. They won't be reached.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (z79tQ)
I saw a headline yesterday, poll taken says a majority of Americans will be all in for this same nonsense, if/when we have another outbreak.
Polls.
Lying liars who lie, lie best with lying polls. It's such utter bullship, but because the nooz says it, people believe it.. and eventually, they come to accept it.
So I don't really blame the straights all that much. How are they SUPPOSED to battle against the herd, when every sound they hear tells them they're losing the war.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:14 AM (hku12)
Many of them won't.
It needs to be said again and again.
Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared. Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared shitless people. They won't be reached.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 11:26 AM (z79tQ)
I saw a headline yesterday, poll taken says a majority of Americans will be all in for this same nonsense, if/when we have another outbreak.
Polls.
Lying liars who lie, lie best with lying polls. It's such utter bullship, but because the nooz says it, people believe it.. and eventually, they come to accept it.
So I don't really blame the straights all that much. How are they SUPPOSED to battle against the herd, when every sound they hear tells them they're losing the war.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:35 AM (hku12)
183
The "Invisible Enemy" is Leftism, Mr. President.
None of this has anything to do with a damn virus anymore.
If it ever did in the first place.
None of this has anything to do with a damn virus anymore.
If it ever did in the first place.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 19, 2020 11:35 AM (WvQcX)
184
*Munkey*
*Munkey*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2020 11:35 AM (EGyGV)
185
cops and stores should maybe give a lame attempt to enforce the execute orders (of the governor/tyrant) ... but fail to arrest or demand compliance. Put arrows on the aisles, never enforce them. Give an occasional warning, never collect names or threaten arrest. Whatever is the minimal to almost comply with the governor, with no real enforcement.
And the citizenry needs massive non-compliance ... the Karens and Kucks should be openly mocked for their brown shirt tendencies. When Karen hates on you for going the wrong way, give her a Heil Hitler salute and walk on with a laugh? is that too harsh? ha
The shooting probably starts when they try stealing kids of those that test positive but are asymptomatic ... kids seem least vulnerable to the virus, but vulnerable to government tyranny.
And the citizenry needs massive non-compliance ... the Karens and Kucks should be openly mocked for their brown shirt tendencies. When Karen hates on you for going the wrong way, give her a Heil Hitler salute and walk on with a laugh? is that too harsh? ha
The shooting probably starts when they try stealing kids of those that test positive but are asymptomatic ... kids seem least vulnerable to the virus, but vulnerable to government tyranny.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2020 11:36 AM (Cus5s)
186
And I said, "Swimming."
And they all moved away from me on the bench there,
and the hairy eyeball and mean, nasty things
until I said, "And resisting Governor Cuomo."
Then they all came back,
shook my hand, and we had a great time...
Posted by: mindful webworker
link: Slaying Dragons
at May 19, 2020 11:32 AM (ATv6t)
LMAO!
Arlo? Is that you?
And I said, "Swimming."
And they all moved away from me on the bench there,
and the hairy eyeball and mean, nasty things
until I said, "And resisting Governor Cuomo."
Then they all came back,
shook my hand, and we had a great time...
Posted by: mindful webworker
link: Slaying Dragons
at May 19, 2020 11:32 AM (ATv6t)
LMAO!
Arlo? Is that you?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:36 AM (2mteh)
187
It was some kid in England who allegedly came up with the social distancing thing when the bird flu was going on.
This whole thing has been elevation of nonsense to canon.
I love the far-too-late comments on Ferguson's software model (haven't read his code but I know enough Fortran and I did spend a week looking at Hansen's climate code, all I can say is 'academic software'. Yeah, I know that's where *nix came from, you CAN polish a turd, but you need a bunch of liquid nitrogen to get it ready.)
This whole thing has been elevation of nonsense to canon.
I love the far-too-late comments on Ferguson's software model (haven't read his code but I know enough Fortran and I did spend a week looking at Hansen's climate code, all I can say is 'academic software'. Yeah, I know that's where *nix came from, you CAN polish a turd, but you need a bunch of liquid nitrogen to get it ready.)
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (8erNz)
Posted by: Gooshy at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (nX54l)
189
Soon!
Posted by: Trial Lawyers at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (SJDa9)
190
Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
Harry Turtledove has nothing on the horde...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM
***
I had to look him up. Haven't read any of his stuff.
Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 19, 2020 11:21 AM (4o2K3)
The problem was Jeb Stuart had been assigned to sweep around the Union forces and find a suitable landing strip and facilities for the A10 maintenance units, and he failed to follow orders by remaining out of touch with Lee's army long enough for Meade to deploy the antiaircraft missile batteries on Big Round Top.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (2mteh)
Harry Turtledove has nothing on the horde...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM
***
I had to look him up. Haven't read any of his stuff.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (axyOa)
191
Had the pleasure of making several trips out east a few years back and visited many civil war battlefields between events. Seemed to be a trend that really shitty things happened when you tried to fight uphill.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (OhQi4)
Go to Chattanooga.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
And yes, that was the exception. Only one I can think of.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (OhQi4)
Go to Chattanooga.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
And yes, that was the exception. Only one I can think of.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)
192
Who is Walter Olson, and what is his website?
Smart non-lawyer commentator on the law.
Overlawyered.com
Smart non-lawyer commentator on the law.
Overlawyered.com
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (H5knJ)
193
Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared.
Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared
shitless people. They won't be reached.
Don't forget the lazy. There is a significant group of Americans laying on their ass and collecting a government check.
And loving it.
Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared
shitless people. They won't be reached.
Don't forget the lazy. There is a significant group of Americans laying on their ass and collecting a government check.
And loving it.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (WvQcX)
194
There is a very good article about social distancing at qz.com if anyone wants to check it out. Interesting history of the concept.
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:38 AM (bCLt0)
195
The people on the car forum are lambasting me for saying, yes, we should exercise caution about Wu-hu Flu, but the kind of caution we exercise in our daily lives. They keep pointing me to "numbers" -- but numbers from retirement homes, where the residents can be assumed to be at greater risk anyway. "I'm not talking about retirement homes," I say. "Of course the staff needs to exercise extra care there."
They don't see that.
They don't see that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:38 AM (rpbg1)
196
I hate hate hate disability frauds. I have to justify myself being on
disability because some assholes faked disability. I am grateful for
ssdi but hate being unable to work. I still feel like I need to justify
myself as being disabled because people take it all the time. Fuck the
frauds. Fuck them to hell.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM
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Disability fraud is big business. We had one Doctor in Kentucky who bilked the system out for over $500 million. He finally got caught and was out on bail and fled the Country. They finally caught up to him in Central America and brought him back.
He got 27 years for the fraud and 15 years for fleeing the Country.
He was scum and quite a few people who got disability through him killed themselves after he was arrested and charged. SS turned off everyone's disability that had used him until they could sort out who was really disabled.
I met one of his minions at a VFW Convention before he got arrested and the guy claimed he had single handily doubled the income level of Harlan County. I think he went to jail too.
I hate hate hate disability frauds. I have to justify myself being on
disability because some assholes faked disability. I am grateful for
ssdi but hate being unable to work. I still feel like I need to justify
myself as being disabled because people take it all the time. Fuck the
frauds. Fuck them to hell.
Posted by: USNtakim at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM
---
Disability fraud is big business. We had one Doctor in Kentucky who bilked the system out for over $500 million. He finally got caught and was out on bail and fled the Country. They finally caught up to him in Central America and brought him back.
He got 27 years for the fraud and 15 years for fleeing the Country.
He was scum and quite a few people who got disability through him killed themselves after he was arrested and charged. SS turned off everyone's disability that had used him until they could sort out who was really disabled.
I met one of his minions at a VFW Convention before he got arrested and the guy claimed he had single handily doubled the income level of Harlan County. I think he went to jail too.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (JUOKG)
197
187
It was some kid in England who allegedly came up with the social distancing thing when the bird flu was going on.
This whole thing has been elevation of nonsense to canon.
His cousin here in the US came up with the study that said our landfills were being filled up with plastic drinking straws.
It was some kid in England who allegedly came up with the social distancing thing when the bird flu was going on.
This whole thing has been elevation of nonsense to canon.
His cousin here in the US came up with the study that said our landfills were being filled up with plastic drinking straws.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (2mteh)
198
Go to Chattanooga.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
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brutal.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
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brutal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (NVYyb)
199
At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing
them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one
has said anything to me. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
Too right--they're the modern face-condom.
Everyone should have the choice of wearing one.
Some should be made to wear them.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (qXNVo)
have to be careful though, this is a butterface best hope...
them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one
has said anything to me. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at May 19, 2020 11:25 AM (wrRdf)
Too right--they're the modern face-condom.
Everyone should have the choice of wearing one.
Some should be made to wear them.
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 11:27 AM (qXNVo)
have to be careful though, this is a butterface best hope...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (8D42x)
200
I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling
the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen
criticizing someone's appearance
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It fits with my observation that the DNC takes turns with it's marketing generally through six people (the Obamas, Hillary, Pelosi, Kerry, Romney). These are the "current" DS politicians with which the public are most familiar.
By having one of those six speak the buzzwords, they easily generate headlines filled with them. That's how *we* end up being exposed to them.
Their buzzwords are short standout phrases designed to persuade on an emotional level - making their enemy seem weak or their position seem strong. Trump as "morbidly obese" paints a strong mental picture, especially in contrast to the slim Biden. It also magically turns Biden's thin frailness into a strength against Trump.
If you think Nazi came up with that all by herself, you do you.
the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen
criticizing someone's appearance
-----------
It fits with my observation that the DNC takes turns with it's marketing generally through six people (the Obamas, Hillary, Pelosi, Kerry, Romney). These are the "current" DS politicians with which the public are most familiar.
By having one of those six speak the buzzwords, they easily generate headlines filled with them. That's how *we* end up being exposed to them.
Their buzzwords are short standout phrases designed to persuade on an emotional level - making their enemy seem weak or their position seem strong. Trump as "morbidly obese" paints a strong mental picture, especially in contrast to the slim Biden. It also magically turns Biden's thin frailness into a strength against Trump.
If you think Nazi came up with that all by herself, you do you.
Posted by: THE BARREL at May 19, 2020 11:40 AM (uEbPt)
201
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
A man named Jed supplied them with their oil. Black gold. Texas tea
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
A man named Jed supplied them with their oil. Black gold. Texas tea
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:40 AM (buXh6)
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I'm waiting for someone to say the obvious: "Yes, let's kill Grandma and take the load off Social Security".
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:40 AM (8erNz)
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178 Had the pleasure of making several trips out east a few years back and visited many civil war battlefields between events. Seemed to be a trend that really shitty things happened when you tried to fight uphill.
Posted by: jhawk90
Ah, you visited Fredericksburg. I'm not sure who in the Union Army thought that was a good idea. Whichever General it was should have been flogged.
Posted by: jhawk90
Ah, you visited Fredericksburg. I'm not sure who in the Union Army thought that was a good idea. Whichever General it was should have been flogged.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (AQigM)
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I really don't blame J.E.B.
He was running low on fuel for his motorcycles, so he had to expend half his force with gas cans, fanning out looking for trucks and tractors from which to siphon fuel, instead of dealing with Meade's missile batteries.
There weren't a lot of tractors in rural Pennsylvania in those days.
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Mrs. LiT says you people have been locked up too long.
He was running low on fuel for his motorcycles, so he had to expend half his force with gas cans, fanning out looking for trucks and tractors from which to siphon fuel, instead of dealing with Meade's missile batteries.
There weren't a lot of tractors in rural Pennsylvania in those days.
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Mrs. LiT says you people have been locked up too long.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (ExV1e)
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A few weeks ago I got a note from the property manager here, one of these "out of an abundance of caution"/"in these troubling times" notes, saying they were pushing back the date to turn on the A/C from mid-May to mid-June.
Not only does this make no sense, but in Denver it's completely retarded.
It got over 90deg in here for the first time yesterday. Will call to cajole. Then to complain. Then, if necessary, to threaten. But I don't wan't don't want to buy a couple of A/C units I'll use for a month and then never again. They need to turn it on.
A few weeks ago I got a note from the property manager here, one of these "out of an abundance of caution"/"in these troubling times" notes, saying they were pushing back the date to turn on the A/C from mid-May to mid-June.
Not only does this make no sense, but in Denver it's completely retarded.
It got over 90deg in here for the first time yesterday. Will call to cajole. Then to complain. Then, if necessary, to threaten. But I don't wan't don't want to buy a couple of A/C units I'll use for a month and then never again. They need to turn it on.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (h6CJG)
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The Illinois legislature is supposed to meet tomorrow (the first time in 2 months) and Jabba wants them to give him those emergency powers for 150 days. He only has them for 30 which expired at the end of April. The Republicans are in a super minority and pretty useless no matter what. I have to imagine that even Democrats are getting an earful from people about reopening. They have to see their districts are dying.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:29 AM (buXh6)
That's similar to here. The guv can declare a state of emergency, but needs legislative approval if she wants it past 30 days. When her 30 days were up, Karen just extended it on her own authority, and that's what triggered the lawsuit. The state supreme court is a 7D majority, so she may get away with it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 11:29 AM (buXh6)
That's similar to here. The guv can declare a state of emergency, but needs legislative approval if she wants it past 30 days. When her 30 days were up, Karen just extended it on her own authority, and that's what triggered the lawsuit. The state supreme court is a 7D majority, so she may get away with it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (lfDrn)
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Harry Turtledove has nothing on the horde...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM
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I had to look him up. Haven't read any of his stuff.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM
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If you like alternative history stuff he is hands down the best.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM
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I had to look him up. Haven't read any of his stuff.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM
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If you like alternative history stuff he is hands down the best.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (JUOKG)
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Go to Chattanooga.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
And yes, that was the exception. Only one I can think of.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)As opposed to the glittering success the Union forces had trying that at Fredricksburg (not to be confused with Fredricksburg Texas, a wonderful little town)
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
And yes, that was the exception. Only one I can think of.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)As opposed to the glittering success the Union forces had trying that at Fredricksburg (not to be confused with Fredricksburg Texas, a wonderful little town)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (2mteh)
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198 Go to Chattanooga.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
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brutal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (NVYyb)
The charging uphill thing can be rather difficult. The Confederates were taken aback.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
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brutal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (NVYyb)
The charging uphill thing can be rather difficult. The Confederates were taken aback.
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (bCLt0)
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At the dentist Ofc. They gave me a mask as dentist suggests wearing
them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one
has said anything to me.
At some point very soon, service will be refused to those who do not submit to the thermometer, the masks , the gloves or the Covid19 Contact Tracing microchip.
them. I thanked the receptionist and stuffed it in my pocket. No one
has said anything to me.
At some point very soon, service will be refused to those who do not submit to the thermometer, the masks , the gloves or the Covid19 Contact Tracing microchip.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (WvQcX)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
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Don't forget the lazy. There is a significant group of Americans laying on their ass and collecting a government check.
And loving it.
white man speak with forked tongue
And loving it.
white man speak with forked tongue
Posted by: The Reservation System at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (cG+eD)
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"Monkeys!"
Posted by: Frances Voss' boytoy from the excellent Charlie sheen movie, the chase at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (rAPmY)
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Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
There's a reason why Texas Oil is a thing.
Plus, the Confederacy had the dreadnought USS Texas there in the Gulf to protect the port in Houston. The big mistake there was that they never surged the battleship out into the Atlantic to break the Union blockade.
Lee's failure to deploy A-10s at Gettysburg was the root cause of the loss of the Confederacy. Discuss.
Please explain to me where the South had drilled for oil, where their refineries were, how they got it to the planes.
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (8erNz)
There's a reason why Texas Oil is a thing.
Plus, the Confederacy had the dreadnought USS Texas there in the Gulf to protect the port in Houston. The big mistake there was that they never surged the battleship out into the Atlantic to break the Union blockade.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (EGyGV)
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Mrs. Muse and I watched the Clarence Thomas
PBS Chicago was apparently washed off the air by Sunday nights downtown flooding.
PBS Chicago was apparently washed off the air by Sunday nights downtown flooding.
Posted by: Gurgling Sound from Lower-Lower Wacker Drive at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (FhXTo)
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Not only does this make no sense, but in Denver it's completely retarded.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (h6CJG)
It makes NO sense. Do they have to come into your house to turn it on?
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (h6CJG)
It makes NO sense. Do they have to come into your house to turn it on?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (Ez6QX)
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Holding it like that, her hand would get hot.
But it looks good.
http://tinyurl.com/yb7uve2y
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yb7uve2y
But it looks good.
http://tinyurl.com/yb7uve2y
http://preview.tinyurl.com/yb7uve2y
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (QxGJc)
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The Civil War was interesting in the night and day results of the Western and the Eastern theaters of operation.
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (bCLt0)
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>>> 195 The people on the car forum are lambasting me for saying, yes, we should exercise caution about Wu-hu Flu, but the kind of caution we exercise in our daily lives. They keep pointing me to "numbers" -- but numbers from retirement homes, where the residents can be assumed to be at greater risk anyway. "I'm not talking about retirement homes," I say. "Of course the staff needs to exercise extra care there."
They don't see that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:38 AM
We all must be careful and stay in our homes lest we all get AIDS. No, see, ... look at all these people in a gay bath house that got it. It's very contagious obviously.
They don't see that.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:38 AM
We all must be careful and stay in our homes lest we all get AIDS. No, see, ... look at all these people in a gay bath house that got it. It's very contagious obviously.
Posted by: banana Dream at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (l6b3d)
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NSA had tapped the cell phones of Lee and most of the confederacy ... that has been scrubbed from history ... by the winners, who write history (and who were also DeepState, not Lincoln).
Posted by: illiniwek at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (Cus5s)
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Makes 'em shrill - and kinda' spastic. And they can't shut up about it.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (v0qEa)
Yeah. I can kind of tell who is in the cult of the mask and who is actually scared to death to be outside now. It's all in the eyes, you can see fear.
So, good job government and your lackeys in the media. You've created the perfect deadly enemy.
It can't be seen, it's probably in the air that you breathe, it's certainly in the air others are breathing AT you, you'll never know until it''s too late, and then you will be fucking DEAD! YOU HEAR ME? DEAD!!!
So goo. We've got people terrorized by this bug and they can't be reached with reason or facts, and some have used this situation to turn those people against their fellow man in ways that won't easily be undone.
I know a lot of them, being in that tweener age of not quite old but certainly not in the bulletproof youth of yesteryear.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (v0qEa)
Yeah. I can kind of tell who is in the cult of the mask and who is actually scared to death to be outside now. It's all in the eyes, you can see fear.
So, good job government and your lackeys in the media. You've created the perfect deadly enemy.
It can't be seen, it's probably in the air that you breathe, it's certainly in the air others are breathing AT you, you'll never know until it''s too late, and then you will be fucking DEAD! YOU HEAR ME? DEAD!!!
So goo. We've got people terrorized by this bug and they can't be reached with reason or facts, and some have used this situation to turn those people against their fellow man in ways that won't easily be undone.
I know a lot of them, being in that tweener age of not quite old but certainly not in the bulletproof youth of yesteryear.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (z79tQ)
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193 Two groups won't learn and those are the stupid and the scared.
Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared
shitless people. They won't be reached.
Don't forget the lazy. There is a significant group of Americans laying on their ass and collecting a government check.
And loving it.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (WvQcX)
Scared, stupid, and lazy is no way to go through life. son.
Government has done a good job of turning some people into scared
shitless people. They won't be reached.
Don't forget the lazy. There is a significant group of Americans laying on their ass and collecting a government check.
And loving it.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (WvQcX)
Scared, stupid, and lazy is no way to go through life. son.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (lfDrn)
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It also magically turns Biden's thin frailness into a strength against Trump.
If you think Nazi came up with that all by herself, you do you.
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I've been talking about his appearance since he decided to run.
He looks old. And def very thin. He also has the look that is very noticeable to those who have seen it. The sort of... vacant stare.
No amount of contrasting imagery can hide it.
If you think Nazi came up with that all by herself, you do you.
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I've been talking about his appearance since he decided to run.
He looks old. And def very thin. He also has the look that is very noticeable to those who have seen it. The sort of... vacant stare.
No amount of contrasting imagery can hide it.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (gAMkn)
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His cousin here in the US came up with the study that said our landfills were being filled up with plastic drinking straws.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (2mteh)
The cousin's pet monkey discovered that there's a continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out plastic bags anymore.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (2mteh)
The cousin's pet monkey discovered that there's a continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out plastic bags anymore.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (sbyCq)
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Probably the same guy in a wheel chair.
At some point it's cheaper to hire an "accident" than an attorney.
At some point it's cheaper to hire an "accident" than an attorney.
Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (FhXTo)
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Nonsense. Jackson was able to deal with the stealth bombers the way he always did.
His big problem was not having issued his front line troops, night vision goggles.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)
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Probably also had the early AR's that jammed easily when they got a bit dirty.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (WEBkv)
F'n Jedediah Westmoreland and his weapons contractors....
His big problem was not having issued his front line troops, night vision goggles.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (hku12)
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Probably also had the early AR's that jammed easily when they got a bit dirty.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:31 AM (WEBkv)
F'n Jedediah Westmoreland and his weapons contractors....
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (hku12)
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It makes NO sense. Do they have to come into your house to turn it on?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (Ez6QX)
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Sort of. The building is on central air. And apparently, In These Troubling Times, the management feels the need to keep the boilers for the HEAT on. For some reason. In the middle of summer.
It makes NO sense. Do they have to come into your house to turn it on?
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 11:42 AM (Ez6QX)
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Sort of. The building is on central air. And apparently, In These Troubling Times, the management feels the need to keep the boilers for the HEAT on. For some reason. In the middle of summer.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (h6CJG)
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Disability fraud is big business. We had one Doctor in Kentucky who
bilked the system out for over $500 million. He finally got caught and
was out on bail and fled the Country. They finally caught up to him in
Central America and brought him back.
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Money for Nothing, the old story.
https://tinyurl.com/ya6cbj7v
bilked the system out for over $500 million. He finally got caught and
was out on bail and fled the Country. They finally caught up to him in
Central America and brought him back.
==============
Money for Nothing, the old story.
https://tinyurl.com/ya6cbj7v
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (NVYyb)
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208
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)As opposed to the glittering success the Union forces had trying that at Fredricksburg (not to be confused with Fredricksburg Texas, a wonderful little town)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (2mteh)
I believe the Southern commanders termed the fight " murder".
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)As opposed to the glittering success the Union forces had trying that at Fredricksburg (not to be confused with Fredricksburg Texas, a wonderful little town)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (2mteh)
I believe the Southern commanders termed the fight " murder".
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (bCLt0)
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A man named Jed supplied them with their oil. Black gold. Texas tea
Ah, the Ebsen-Arness Wars At Sea...
Ah, the Ebsen-Arness Wars At Sea...
Posted by: JEM at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (8erNz)
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Scared, stupid, and lazy is no way to go through life. son.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (lfDrn)
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I'm not scared!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at May 19, 2020 11:43 AM (lfDrn)
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I'm not scared!
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (WEBkv)
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True story: I once convinced a rather lightly witted young woman that the Civil War was fought between the East and West.
The West were known by their plaid uniforms - that's how you could tell them apart.
The West were known by their plaid uniforms - that's how you could tell them apart.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM (gAMkn)
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The cousin's pet monkey discovered that there's a
continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the
middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out
plastic bags anymore.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (sbyCq)
Which has been scrubbed by the NSA from all satellite images.
The cousin's pet monkey discovered that there's a
continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the
middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out
plastic bags anymore.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (sbyCq)
Which has been scrubbed by the NSA from all satellite images.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM (2mteh)
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I worked with a young woman that had pancreatic cancer. It did kill her. But while she was on chemo, she had a handicapped permit. She went to her car after shopping and someone had put a note on her car about how she wasn't disabled and shouldn't be using that spot. Karens have been with us for awhile.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (JKNZq)
My wife has a deadbeat friend who she inflicts on herself to offset the wonderfulness of being married to me. She has a rare autoimmune disease that was probably made much worse by not getting off her dead ass to go see the doctor about it initially because she's cheap and lazy. When she gets her treatments it's pretty bad, even I'll admit and she deserves her special tags. But at other times of the month she's just as mobile and pain free as anyone else.
There's no real practicable way to effectively give them out in an as needed manner. Which is why Karens should STFU but that's why they're Karens.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:30 AM (JKNZq)
My wife has a deadbeat friend who she inflicts on herself to offset the wonderfulness of being married to me. She has a rare autoimmune disease that was probably made much worse by not getting off her dead ass to go see the doctor about it initially because she's cheap and lazy. When she gets her treatments it's pretty bad, even I'll admit and she deserves her special tags. But at other times of the month she's just as mobile and pain free as anyone else.
There's no real practicable way to effectively give them out in an as needed manner. Which is why Karens should STFU but that's why they're Karens.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM (y7DUB)
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I imagine I missed it but what do you all think of SanFranNan calling the POTUS morbidly obese? What a POS she is.. The Botox queen criticizing someone's appearance
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
I listened to the clip of Nancy's criticism. She actually said that she is concerned about Trump taking an unapproved drug , considering his age, and his "weight class".
Unless she said it later, she did not say he was morbidly obese.
I thought the criticism was pretty rich coming from an 80 plus year old whose face is so stretched from botox she can't close her eyes.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 11:08 AM (Zmnko)
I listened to the clip of Nancy's criticism. She actually said that she is concerned about Trump taking an unapproved drug , considering his age, and his "weight class".
Unless she said it later, she did not say he was morbidly obese.
I thought the criticism was pretty rich coming from an 80 plus year old whose face is so stretched from botox she can't close her eyes.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM (RBQSs)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
If someone would have handed out fifty panzerfausts to the Kimri, Marius' legions would have been toast.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
If someone would have handed out fifty panzerfausts to the Kimri, Marius' legions would have been toast.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:46 AM (sbyCq)
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The cousin's pet monkey discovered that there's a
continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the
middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out
plastic bags anymore.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM
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It's invisible plastic that's why we can't seem to be able to actually see it.
continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the
middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out
plastic bags anymore.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM
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It's invisible plastic that's why we can't seem to be able to actually see it.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:46 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Anna Puma at May 19, 2020 11:46 AM (XLJ/O)
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Please don't assume the ADA is completely trash. My wife is "bound" to a wheelchair due to paraplegia and the amputation of her right leg. You have no idea how embarrassing it is for her when we go to a restaurant or other place of business and there is not a bathroom she can use or she cannot get into the place with her chair. While the ADA can be taken too far, there are some very good things about it that allow my wife to keep her dignity and be able to join the rest of society. Without the ADA her options would be much more limited.
Posted by: Tropical Lutefisk at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (iRngN)
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Some days I wish I wasn't an introvert, so I could come up with a retort to these people.
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
Flyover, the proper retort was "Where"?
I suppose i could have just made soft sheep noises...
Posted by: Flyover, tired of covid theatre at May 19, 2020 11:23 AM (Rbu5d)
Flyover, the proper retort was "Where"?
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (XxJt1)
241
Yesterday when I was so depressed and unhappy, I decided to make lists of things I needed to do so I could cross things off the list and feel productive. So, I made lists of everything from changing the sheets to working in the garden.Now, today, I feel fine and I've got all these lists I h ave to get to. Sigh......
See you later.
See you later.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (QzF6i)
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It got over 90deg in here for the first time yesterday. Will call to cajole. Then to complain. Then, if necessary, to threaten. But I don't wan't don't want to buy a couple of A/C units I'll use for a month and then never again. They need to turn it on.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (h6CJG)
Well, there's your problem right there. You live in an apartment.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (h6CJG)
Well, there's your problem right there. You live in an apartment.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (LZcDP)
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News12 NJ
https://tinyurl.com/y7pyntdu
published the gofundme account info for the Bellmawr Atilius Gym legal expenses.
I make no claim as to the authenticity.
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https://tinyurl.com/y7pyntdu
published the gofundme account info for the Bellmawr Atilius Gym legal expenses.
I make no claim as to the authenticity.
https://tinyurl.com/ybkbuwbd
Posted by: BluesFish at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (V9xs0)
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I believe the Southern commanders termed the fight " murder".
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (bCLt0)
Hence the chant of the Union forces on the 3rd day at Gettysburg after Pickett's division fell back."Fredricksburg! Fredricksburg! Fredricksburg!"
(that one is real...)
I believe the Southern commanders termed the fight " murder".
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:44 AM (bCLt0)
Hence the chant of the Union forces on the 3rd day at Gettysburg after Pickett's division fell back."Fredricksburg! Fredricksburg! Fredricksburg!"
(that one is real...)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (2mteh)
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"The French government issued a strongly-worded statement Tuesday urging Israel not to apply sovereignty in Judea and Samaria. "
http://tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
http://tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (QxGJc)
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Geeze, I drop in for some jovial morning banter, and find myself in a skirmish.
*rummages in drawer for the Griswold & Gunnison*
*reflects reverently on the the great battle of Chickamauga*
*rummages in drawer for the Griswold & Gunnison*
*reflects reverently on the the great battle of Chickamauga*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (830x5)
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The problem with the ADA is that for every person who legitimately needs it there are a dozen abusing it.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (XxJt1)
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True story: I once convinced a rather lightly witted young woman that the Civil War was fought between the East and West.
The West were known by their plaid uniforms - that's how you could tell them apart.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM
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True story, I once convinced a rather dim woman that naguahide came from Nagaus that lived in the Nagatuck river in CT.
True story: I once convinced a rather lightly witted young woman that the Civil War was fought between the East and West.
The West were known by their plaid uniforms - that's how you could tell them apart.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM
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True story, I once convinced a rather dim woman that naguahide came from Nagaus that lived in the Nagatuck river in CT.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
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Sort of. The building is on central air. And apparently, In These Troubling Times, the management feels the need to keep the boilers for the HEAT on. For some reason. In the middle of summer.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020
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That was the crazy thing about Denver. They seemed to think you didn't need A/C, when clearly it got hot enough in May, sometimes April, for you to need it. Maybe that was true 40 years ago, when Denver was less humid and crowded, but not in 1999, and I'm sure not now.
I looked at one apartment with only a wall unit in the living room. No bedroom air. I said, "What if I take a nap in the daytime?" They said, "Put a fan in the doorway." I said, "No thanks."
Sort of. The building is on central air. And apparently, In These Troubling Times, the management feels the need to keep the boilers for the HEAT on. For some reason. In the middle of summer.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020
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That was the crazy thing about Denver. They seemed to think you didn't need A/C, when clearly it got hot enough in May, sometimes April, for you to need it. Maybe that was true 40 years ago, when Denver was less humid and crowded, but not in 1999, and I'm sure not now.
I looked at one apartment with only a wall unit in the living room. No bedroom air. I said, "What if I take a nap in the daytime?" They said, "Put a fan in the doorway." I said, "No thanks."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (rpbg1)
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I've been having an email "discussion" about the Santa Clara test. It was run by Stanford and was one of the ones that found the antibodies more widespread than they thought. Seems other organizations are saying it was junk science and that they got all the participants from Facebook. it's just not true.
The friend send me links to all these groups saying it's junk science. My first thought was man made climate change. Cause you could find a whole lot of groups saying that man made climate change is real and anyone going against them is junk science. I just am not buying it.
The friend send me links to all these groups saying it's junk science. My first thought was man made climate change. Cause you could find a whole lot of groups saying that man made climate change is real and anyone going against them is junk science. I just am not buying it.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (JKNZq)
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this comment made my day
can't stop laughing
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7z9wox6
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (G546f)
That's hilarious.
can't stop laughing
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y7z9wox6
Posted by: vmom Still Alive in These Tyrannical Times at May 19, 2020 11:22 AM (G546f)
That's hilarious.
Posted by: LASue at May 19, 2020 11:49 AM (Ed8Zd)
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Go to Chattanooga.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
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brutal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (NVYyb)
Yep. They've built up Chattanooga quite a bit, so the locations of battle sites are sometimes hard to find, but you can get a sense of the terrain. It must have been horrible, assaulting those positions.
Up on Lookout Mountain though, the trenches are still visible... and again, you look out over the landscape, and you can "see" what those boys had to face. Astonishing courage... on both sides.
Union troops assaulted and took Confederate positions who occupied the high ground.
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brutal.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 11:39 AM (NVYyb)
Yep. They've built up Chattanooga quite a bit, so the locations of battle sites are sometimes hard to find, but you can get a sense of the terrain. It must have been horrible, assaulting those positions.
Up on Lookout Mountain though, the trenches are still visible... and again, you look out over the landscape, and you can "see" what those boys had to face. Astonishing courage... on both sides.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)
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/sock be gone.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:49 AM (WEBkv)
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[i/]The cousin's pet monkey discovered that there's a
continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the
middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out
plastic bags anymore.
Almost all of it, well over 80%, comes from India and China, whose waste management systems consist of "throw it in the river."
continent-sized sheet of plastic waste floating around somewhere in the
middle of the ocean. That's why the grocery stores can't give out
plastic bags anymore.
Almost all of it, well over 80%, comes from India and China, whose waste management systems consist of "throw it in the river."
Posted by: brak at May 19, 2020 11:49 AM (cG+eD)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
If someone would have handed out fifty panzerfausts to the Kimri, Marius' legions would have been toast.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:46 AM
So...tell me ore of this Thin Man and Fat Boy...
--Hannibal
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
If someone would have handed out fifty panzerfausts to the Kimri, Marius' legions would have been toast.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:46 AM
So...tell me ore of this Thin Man and Fat Boy...
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:50 AM (axyOa)
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The problem with the ADA is that for every person who legitimately needs it there are a dozen abusing it.
Posted by: creeper
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That is the trouble with *every* government program.
Posted by: creeper
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That is the trouble with *every* government program.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (830x5)
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Sun's out. Vitamin D break. Back in a while.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (XxJt1)
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So...tell me ore of this Thin Man and Fat Boy...
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:50 AM (axyOa)
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I'd like to see the team of elephants needed to move those weapons over the mountains.
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:50 AM (axyOa)
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I'd like to see the team of elephants needed to move those weapons over the mountains.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (WEBkv)
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Abundance of caution!!! Troubling times!!! Stay safe.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (EgshT)
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Hell the confederacy would have won if they had just had canned food - or MRE's
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (4HMlb)
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Just got back from grocery shopping. Plenty of everything including meats. The new shortage seems to be in Clorox wipes and cleaners. None available.
Even the store brand is gone. Funny how we run in circles sometimes, with lots of TP and paper towels on the shelves.
Even the store brand is gone. Funny how we run in circles sometimes, with lots of TP and paper towels on the shelves.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (NtOf1)
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and all of the above fantasies are why amateurs discuss tactics and professionals talk logistics.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (2mteh)
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The problem with the ADA is that for every person who legitimately needs it there are a dozen abusing it.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM
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Yep. My brother in on it because he had a heart attack on the job. He still has cardiac issues from that and will never work again but he has to constantly go back to the SS Doctor's to "prove" he is still disabled.
Yet I know a woman who got SS disability because she was a crack whore. She can work but they still give her that check every month.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM
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Yep. My brother in on it because he had a heart attack on the job. He still has cardiac issues from that and will never work again but he has to constantly go back to the SS Doctor's to "prove" he is still disabled.
Yet I know a woman who got SS disability because she was a crack whore. She can work but they still give her that check every month.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (JUOKG)
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245 "The French government issued a strongly-worded statement Tuesday urging Israel not to apply sovereignty in Judea and Samaria. "
http://tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (QxGJc)
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I was just reminded of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7DL_L3Xdac
http://tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
http://preview.tinyurl.com/y7m3tt33
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (QxGJc)
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I was just reminded of this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7DL_L3Xdac
Posted by: Augustine at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (BDZWU)
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I'd like to see the team of elephants needed to move those weapons over the mountains.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (WEBkv)
I'd like to see the trebuchet that could get them to an altitude that would trigger the detonator.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (WEBkv)
I'd like to see the trebuchet that could get them to an altitude that would trigger the detonator.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (sbyCq)
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His cousin here in the US came up with the study that said our landfills were being filled up with plastic drinking straws.
Posted by: DamnedYankee
That's the straw that broke the donkey's back!
Posted by: DamnedYankee
That's the straw that broke the donkey's back!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (+y/Ru)
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So...tell me ore of this Thin Man and Fat Boy...
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes
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Not sure about the fat kid, but Nick is one hell of a guy.
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes
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Not sure about the fat kid, but Nick is one hell of a guy.
Posted by: Nora Charles at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (830x5)
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Had the pleasure of making several trips out east a few years back and visited many civil war battlefields between events. Seemed to be a trend that really shitty things happened when you tried to fight uphill.
Posted by: jhawk90
Ah, you visited Fredericksburg. I'm not sure who in the Union Army thought that was a good idea. Whichever General it was should have been flogged.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (AQigM)
Ambrose Burnside. Spent more time tending to his whiskers than planning and executing his battles.
He gained some measure of fame at Antietam, when he more or less accidentally took a bridge. I forget the details, but he was praised for that, because they needed the p.r. victory more than an actual, you know, victory.
Posted by: jhawk90
Ah, you visited Fredericksburg. I'm not sure who in the Union Army thought that was a good idea. Whichever General it was should have been flogged.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (AQigM)
Ambrose Burnside. Spent more time tending to his whiskers than planning and executing his battles.
He gained some measure of fame at Antietam, when he more or less accidentally took a bridge. I forget the details, but he was praised for that, because they needed the p.r. victory more than an actual, you know, victory.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (hku12)
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Up on Lookout Mountain though, the trenches are
still visible... and again, you look out over the landscape, and you can
"see" what those boys had to face. Astonishing courage... on both
sides.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)
I've been there. It is an unbelievable sight. It is historical but it is also a gorgeous view of the river. Well worth the time to visit.
still visible... and again, you look out over the landscape, and you can
"see" what those boys had to face. Astonishing courage... on both
sides.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:49 AM (hku12)
I've been there. It is an unbelievable sight. It is historical but it is also a gorgeous view of the river. Well worth the time to visit.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (QzF6i)
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That is the trouble with *every* government program.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (830x5)
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Yeah, the left thinks a law can be narrowly tailored and be "just right" whereas those of us who know better, understand the law is nothing more than a blunt instrument that will always have unintended consequences.
Hence the need for an intact social contract independent of law.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (830x5)
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Yeah, the left thinks a law can be narrowly tailored and be "just right" whereas those of us who know better, understand the law is nothing more than a blunt instrument that will always have unintended consequences.
Hence the need for an intact social contract independent of law.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
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I'm really glad my business doesn't sell to the public. People tend to be awful.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (eAZVt)
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257 Sun's out. Vitamin D break. Back in a while.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (XxJt1)
Lucky you! We're supposed to have rain all week.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (XxJt1)
Lucky you! We're supposed to have rain all week.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (Ez6QX)
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Hell the confederacy would have won if they had just had canned food - or MRE's
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM
Well, if MREs they wouldn't of had to stop and dig a latrine so often.
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM
Well, if MREs they wouldn't of had to stop and dig a latrine so often.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (axyOa)
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Sun's out. Vitamin D break. Back in a while.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020
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I've been doing that for about a half hour in the afternoon: sitting on the stoop with a cold mineral water and reading. Not full sun, but enough to get some Vitamin D, I hope.
Pretty soon it will have to stop. Too hot and humid.
Posted by: creeper at May 19, 2020
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I've been doing that for about a half hour in the afternoon: sitting on the stoop with a cold mineral water and reading. Not full sun, but enough to get some Vitamin D, I hope.
Pretty soon it will have to stop. Too hot and humid.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (rpbg1)
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"Thousands of autoworkers at 24 Ford plants, 19 GM plants, and 8 Fiat Chrysler plants are reopening this week with another 5 Fiat Chrysler plants reopening on May 26. "
Fiat Chrysler; appropriately named.
Fiat Chrysler; appropriately named.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (QxGJc)
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Please don't assume the ADA is completely trash. My wife is "bound" to a wheelchair due to paraplegia and the amputation of her right leg. You have no idea how embarrassing it is for her when we go to a restaurant or other place of business and there is not a bathroom she can use or she cannot get into the place with her chair. While the ADA can be taken too far, there are some very good things about it that allow my wife to keep her dignity and be able to join the rest of society. Without the ADA her options would be much more limited.
Posted by: Tropical Lutefisk at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (iRngN)
This.
My very elderly mother finally was unable to walk more than a few steps at a time in her last few years and ADA compliant restrooms, doorways, ramps, etc. allowed her to be able to leave her home with us, go to restaurant celebrations, visit the doctor, actually go to a grocery store where she could pick out her own groceries, etc.
There are many paraplegic individuals, ( including a lot of military vets) who could not function on their own without ADA compliant elevators, doors, etc. I've seen individuals get out of their properly equipped vans, wheel themselves into Cabelas, and be able to not only zoom around to shop, but be able to go to the second floor, etc. Sure they often need help getting items down from shelves, etc. but then , so do I,LOL.
Greg Abbott is a great example of someone whose ability to function in a wheelchair and run a state . I'm sure his life is made a little easier by the ADA.
Posted by: Tropical Lutefisk at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (iRngN)
This.
My very elderly mother finally was unable to walk more than a few steps at a time in her last few years and ADA compliant restrooms, doorways, ramps, etc. allowed her to be able to leave her home with us, go to restaurant celebrations, visit the doctor, actually go to a grocery store where she could pick out her own groceries, etc.
There are many paraplegic individuals, ( including a lot of military vets) who could not function on their own without ADA compliant elevators, doors, etc. I've seen individuals get out of their properly equipped vans, wheel themselves into Cabelas, and be able to not only zoom around to shop, but be able to go to the second floor, etc. Sure they often need help getting items down from shelves, etc. but then , so do I,LOL.
Greg Abbott is a great example of someone whose ability to function in a wheelchair and run a state . I'm sure his life is made a little easier by the ADA.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (RBQSs)
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and all of the above fantasies are why amateurs discuss tactics and professionals talk logistics.
Posted by: DamnedYankee
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Here's the rule: The side with the greatest resources wins.
Posted by: DamnedYankee
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Here's the rule: The side with the greatest resources wins.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (mLizQ)
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Well...off to teach the grandkids.
Last night we stayed up to watch the Space Station pass overhead. It was pretty cool. So today we will read about it.
Later gang.
Last night we stayed up to watch the Space Station pass overhead. It was pretty cool. So today we will read about it.
Later gang.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (axyOa)
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Strategy. The " One decisive battle" strategy.
Posted by: tubal at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (bCLt0)
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Where's that confounded bridge?
Posted by: Zombie Ambrose Burnside at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (EgshT)
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True story, I once convinced a rather dim woman that naguahide came from Nagaus that lived in the Nagatuck river in CT.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
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My chair is upholstered in real Naugahyde.
Whey they killed that Nauga, I sat down and cried.
(He moved to Chicaga when that Nauga died!
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (JUOKG)
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My chair is upholstered in real Naugahyde.
Whey they killed that Nauga, I sat down and cried.
(He moved to Chicaga when that Nauga died!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (hYcqw)
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I'd like to see the trebuchet that could get them to an altitude that would trigger the detonator.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (sbyCq)
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Just a quick stop at "Trebuchet's R Us" and good to go, right?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (sbyCq)
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Just a quick stop at "Trebuchet's R Us" and good to go, right?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:55 AM (WEBkv)
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So...tell me ore of this Thin Man and Fat Boy...
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes
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Not sure about the fat kid, but Nick is one hell of a guy.
Posted by: Nora Charles at May 19, 2020
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"How many drinking establishments have I been thrown out of now, Mrs. Charles?"
"That would be all of them, Mr. Charles."
--Hannibal
Posted by: Diogenes
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Not sure about the fat kid, but Nick is one hell of a guy.
Posted by: Nora Charles at May 19, 2020
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"How many drinking establishments have I been thrown out of now, Mrs. Charles?"
"That would be all of them, Mr. Charles."
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:55 AM (rpbg1)
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 11:55 AM (rpbg1)
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Hell the confederacy would have won if they had just had canned food - or MRE's
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM
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Harry Turtledove had his time travelers give Lee some "desiccated stew" also. They were not prepared for that but they did bring in about 100,000 AK-47 and crate after crate of ammunition for them.
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM
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Harry Turtledove had his time travelers give Lee some "desiccated stew" also. They were not prepared for that but they did bring in about 100,000 AK-47 and crate after crate of ammunition for them.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 19, 2020 11:55 AM (JUOKG)
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I'd like to see the team of elephants needed to move those weapons over the mountains.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (WEBkv)
Mountains? Hell, I want to know how you're going to get them across the Tiber and into the Forum.
I'd like to see the team of elephants needed to move those weapons over the mountains.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:51 AM (WEBkv)
Mountains? Hell, I want to know how you're going to get them across the Tiber and into the Forum.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (2mteh)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation
And they thought Teutoburg Forest was bad! Through a few Stukas in there!
Posted by: An Observation
And they thought Teutoburg Forest was bad! Through a few Stukas in there!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (+y/Ru)
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Where's that confounded bridge?
Posted by: Zombie Ambrose Burnside at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (EgshT)
Does anyone remember laughter?
Posted by: Zombie Ambrose Burnside at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (EgshT)
Does anyone remember laughter?
Posted by: Gen. James "Jimmy" Page at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (sbyCq)
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some terminally embarrassed coffee joint employee politely asking to take its temperature
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Fuck that. No one outside of a medical professional I've hired has any business taking my temperature and trying to make a diagnosis.
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Fuck that. No one outside of a medical professional I've hired has any business taking my temperature and trying to make a diagnosis.
Posted by: Methos at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (kOpft)
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Without the ADA her options would be much more limited.
Posted by: Tropical Lutefisk at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (iRngN)
Understood, but why do I have to pay for those options?
Posted by: Tropical Lutefisk at May 19, 2020 11:47 AM (iRngN)
Understood, but why do I have to pay for those options?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (dLLD6)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
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I cannot make certain improvements to our building, because it would require ADA compliance which would cost a fortune.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (eAZVt)
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... Yeah, the left thinks a law can be narrowly tailored and be "just right" whereas those of us who know better, understand the law is nothing more than a blunt instrument that will always have unintended consequences. ...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
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It's akin to those hawt young women who put it all on display and then get mad if someone they don't find attractive looks at them.
The law - like the hot chick in minimal tight clothing - is not a guided missile, it's a nuke. But they all think that it's the other way around.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
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It's akin to those hawt young women who put it all on display and then get mad if someone they don't find attractive looks at them.
The law - like the hot chick in minimal tight clothing - is not a guided missile, it's a nuke. But they all think that it's the other way around.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (hYcqw)
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RIP Mr Mannix.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (yL25O)
295
Starting to see 'for lease' signs in the shopping areas around here along with forsale signs...The longer we are closed or partly open, the more business will got belly up.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (NtOf1)
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Lucky you! We're supposed to have rain all week.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (Ez6QX)
It's cloudy here, and spit a little rain, but no downpour. Farmers here want some rain. And if it were to rain hard, I'd file for a burn permit and flash up my burn pile. It's getting huge.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (Ez6QX)
It's cloudy here, and spit a little rain, but no downpour. Farmers here want some rain. And if it were to rain hard, I'd file for a burn permit and flash up my burn pile. It's getting huge.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (LZcDP)
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Greg Abbott is a great example of someone whose ability to function in a wheelchair and run a state . I'm sure his life is made a little easier by the ADA.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (RBQSs)
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I do not resent those who legitimately need the accommodations of ADA. I do, however, resent those who take advantage and also make it look bad for those who need ADA.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (RBQSs)
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I do not resent those who legitimately need the accommodations of ADA. I do, however, resent those who take advantage and also make it look bad for those who need ADA.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (WEBkv)
298
Wolfus - One hell of save! Well done, well done indeed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (mLizQ)
299
True story: I once convinced a rather lightly witted young woman that the Civil War was fought between the East and West.
The West were known by their plaid uniforms - that's how you could tell them apart.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM (gAMkn)
Not to be crude, but hopefully she had talents, other than her brain.
The West were known by their plaid uniforms - that's how you could tell them apart.
Posted by: MJ at May 19, 2020 11:45 AM (gAMkn)
Not to be crude, but hopefully she had talents, other than her brain.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (hku12)
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Just got back from grocery shopping. Plenty of everything including meats. The new shortage seems to be in Clorox wipes and cleaners. None available.
Even the store brand is gone. Funny how we run in circles sometimes, with lots of TP and paper towels on the shelves.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (NtOf1)
I had to go to three stores the other day to find dishwasher detergent. Final store had six pouches of Cascade pods. That was it.
Even the store brand is gone. Funny how we run in circles sometimes, with lots of TP and paper towels on the shelves.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (NtOf1)
I had to go to three stores the other day to find dishwasher detergent. Final store had six pouches of Cascade pods. That was it.
Posted by: Jen the original at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (RBQSs)
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Jefferson Davis would have rained hellfire down on the Union with his
Stukas if it hadn't been for a major design flaw in the Jerrico trumpet
prototype.
Stukas if it hadn't been for a major design flaw in the Jerrico trumpet
prototype.
Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (95j/9)
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Starting to see 'for lease' signs in the shopping areas around here along with forsale signs...The longer we are closed or partly open, the more business will got belly up.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (NtOf1)
Isn't it great when a plan comes together?
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (NtOf1)
Isn't it great when a plan comes together?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (sbyCq)
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Here's the rule: The side with the greatest resources wins.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (mLizQ)
Not always!
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (mLizQ)
Not always!
Posted by: Hillary at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (SJDa9)
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Someone said Clarence Thomas had a thing for pubic hairs and fur oil,can't be all bad.
I saw the Pubic Hairs getting pulled at the Corn Hole Palace.
I saw the Pubic Hairs getting pulled at the Corn Hole Palace.
Posted by: saf at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (5IHGB)
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Here's the rule: The side with the greatest resources wins....
No.. The side that can deliver to the battlefield the greatest resources, wins. Big difference there. Napoleon had huge resources but because of the Naval blockade by the English he could not deliver those resources to the field.
No.. The side that can deliver to the battlefield the greatest resources, wins. Big difference there. Napoleon had huge resources but because of the Naval blockade by the English he could not deliver those resources to the field.
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (4HMlb)
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700$ later.......I'm assuming I'll have a working sump pump
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (IYHxL)
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292 I cannot make certain improvements to our building, because it would require ADA compliance which would cost a fortune.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (eAZVt)
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There's a whole lot of people out there making improvements $49,000 at a time, with requisite time intervals between projects.
Posted by: Chris M at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (eAZVt)
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There's a whole lot of people out there making improvements $49,000 at a time, with requisite time intervals between projects.
Posted by: TexasDan at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (yL25O)
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There's also the maximum slopes rules for any ADA access in a parking lot. I could go on.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home
And if they were rolling additions to "best practices for new construction" people would be glad to include them.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home
And if they were rolling additions to "best practices for new construction" people would be glad to include them.
Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (FhXTo)
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does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: SturmToddler
Fun times until they run out of fuel and ammo. Then just a bunch of guys with parked cars and rifles for clubs.
Didja ever read Jerry Pournelle's "Janissary" series??
Posted by: SturmToddler
Fun times until they run out of fuel and ammo. Then just a bunch of guys with parked cars and rifles for clubs.
Didja ever read Jerry Pournelle's "Janissary" series??
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (vcOmj)
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I once convinced a group of women at a bar that medical studies have shown that estrogen causes brain damage.
One even said, "Well that explains, a lot."
One even said, "Well that explains, a lot."
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (xfb67)
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Also, the ADA has provided an amazingly horrible grift for a certain class of evil shakedown artist litigators - because even the most scrupulous small business can NEVER afford to comply EVERY single little nitpicking regulation in the ADA.
Businesses that are in most ways easily accessible to the handicapped are still usually in violation of SOMETHING.
And these guys know the law back-and-front, and will file suit after suit after suit shaking down these business, and often shuttering them.
They should all be keelhauled.
Also, the ADA has provided an amazingly horrible grift for a certain class of evil shakedown artist litigators - because even the most scrupulous small business can NEVER afford to comply EVERY single little nitpicking regulation in the ADA.
Businesses that are in most ways easily accessible to the handicapped are still usually in violation of SOMETHING.
And these guys know the law back-and-front, and will file suit after suit after suit shaking down these business, and often shuttering them.
They should all be keelhauled.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (h6CJG)
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One more day of homeschooling. ONE. MORE. DAY.
(Btw, not a wine mom, just frustrated at how dumb the curriculum is compared to the average first-grader, especially my well-above-average daughter.)
(Btw, not a wine mom, just frustrated at how dumb the curriculum is compared to the average first-grader, especially my well-above-average daughter.)
Posted by: pookysgirl, dragging her rear end over the finish line at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (XKZwp)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
Jerry Pournelle did a nice job with janissaries, anyone know how that series ended? Or did I read it and can't remember! Aghhhh!
If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
Jerry Pournelle did a nice job with janissaries, anyone know how that series ended? Or did I read it and can't remember! Aghhhh!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:59 AM (2mteh)
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Starting to see 'for lease' signs in the shopping areas around here along with forsale signs...The longer we are closed or partly open, the more business will got belly up.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (NtOf1)
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There's a furniture store across from where I live. It's been there ever since my family moved to the area from California in the early 90s. They're having a liquidation sale now.
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 11:57 AM (NtOf1)
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There's a furniture store across from where I live. It's been there ever since my family moved to the area from California in the early 90s. They're having a liquidation sale now.
Posted by: Augustine at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (BDZWU)
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Cascade pods are tasty.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (EgshT)
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Had the pleasure of making several trips out east a few years back and visited many civil war battlefields between events. Seemed to be a trend that really shitty things happened when you tried to fight uphill.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (OhQi4)
Saw that at the Bunker Hill Monument in Boston (which is of course, actually Breed's Hill). Going up the hill it actually doesn't seem too bad. The last 100 yards are gonna be a bitch though, because in that case, the hill gets steeper near the top.
What really surprised me is turning around and looking down the hill. That showed just how commanding a position it was, how difficult the last stretch of an attack would be, and why the position was so important.
Had the pleasure of making several trips out east a few years back and visited many civil war battlefields between events. Seemed to be a trend that really shitty things happened when you tried to fight uphill.
Posted by: jhawk90 at May 19, 2020 11:34 AM (OhQi4)
Saw that at the Bunker Hill Monument in Boston (which is of course, actually Breed's Hill). Going up the hill it actually doesn't seem too bad. The last 100 yards are gonna be a bitch though, because in that case, the hill gets steeper near the top.
What really surprised me is turning around and looking down the hill. That showed just how commanding a position it was, how difficult the last stretch of an attack would be, and why the position was so important.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (EGyGV)
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245 "The French government issued a strongly-worded statement Tuesday
urging Israel not to apply sovereignty in Judea and Samaria. "
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The Israelis should just take Paris, like everyone else. Why should they be special?
urging Israel not to apply sovereignty in Judea and Samaria. "
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The Israelis should just take Paris, like everyone else. Why should they be special?
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (NVYyb)
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does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Rome, Sweet Rome. Stuck in development hell, probably never to be heard of again
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Rome, Sweet Rome. Stuck in development hell, probably never to be heard of again
Posted by: brak at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (cG+eD)
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The new WH "Vaccine Czar" made over $10 million yesterday selling stock options in Moderna that he refused to divest himself from when taking the job. How does Trump keep getting stuck with these imbeciles?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (CQ3Qb)
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Wolfus - One hell of save! Well done, well done indeed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Never mind...I see that Joe Mannix is the proximate cause.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc.
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Never mind...I see that Joe Mannix is the proximate cause.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (830x5)
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I'm really glad my business doesn't sell to the public. People tend to be awful.
Posted by: Chris M
People. They're the worst!
Posted by: Chris M
People. They're the worst!
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (vcOmj)
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Geeze, I drop in for some jovial morning banter, and find myself in a skirmish.
*rummages in drawer for the Griswold & Gunnison*
*reflects reverently on the the great battle of Chickamauga*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (830x5)
George Thomas, the single most underrated and forgotten (by the straights) general of the war.
*rummages in drawer for the Griswold & Gunnison*
*reflects reverently on the the great battle of Chickamauga*
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:48 AM (830x5)
George Thomas, the single most underrated and forgotten (by the straights) general of the war.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (hku12)
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Isn't it great when a plan comes together?
Yep. I'm beginning to think the plan is destroy all small and medium sized businesses, eliminate certain industries entirely (sports, live entertainment, and all events over 50 people) and just slam everyone who is deemed a Useless Eater into UBI for life.
Yep. I'm beginning to think the plan is destroy all small and medium sized businesses, eliminate certain industries entirely (sports, live entertainment, and all events over 50 people) and just slam everyone who is deemed a Useless Eater into UBI for life.
Posted by: shibumi, a Useless Eater living in CV1984 at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (ZCiJZ)
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Back from my haircut. Signs on the windows and front door about masks, and my barber and everyone else had one. He gave me one, and I put it on because (a) this was close quarters, and (b) his immune system is already weakened from other things.
He said he was enjoying his break, and that his wife had said, "We're doing okay, why don't you just retire?" He said he didn't like to leave his customers of many years in the lurch, and overburden his business partner.
Good job, same price as before, though I'd have paid more. And there was so much hair on the floor after my cut that you'd have thought a Pekingese had just developed a shedding problem.
He said he was enjoying his break, and that his wife had said, "We're doing okay, why don't you just retire?" He said he didn't like to leave his customers of many years in the lurch, and overburden his business partner.
Good job, same price as before, though I'd have paid more. And there was so much hair on the floor after my cut that you'd have thought a Pekingese had just developed a shedding problem.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (rpbg1)
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>>does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times? Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
The Pyle latrine scene would've been different.
"What is this Mickey Mouse shit? What in the name of Jesus H. Christ are you two animals doing in my head?"
"Sir! It is the private's duty to inform the senior drill instructor that Private Pyle has a very well sharpened pilum and is pointing it at his forehead, sir!"
The Pyle latrine scene would've been different.
"What is this Mickey Mouse shit? What in the name of Jesus H. Christ are you two animals doing in my head?"
"Sir! It is the private's duty to inform the senior drill instructor that Private Pyle has a very well sharpened pilum and is pointing it at his forehead, sir!"
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (qXNVo)
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Understood, but why do I have to pay for those options?
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (dLLD6)
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This is a fair question. The answer is there are external benefits society enjoys by providing those options, and those social benefits should be funded socially.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (dLLD6)
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This is a fair question. The answer is there are external benefits society enjoys by providing those options, and those social benefits should be funded socially.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (EZebt)
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Ambrose Burnside. Spent more time tending to his whiskers than planning and executing his battles.
He gained some measure of fame at Antietam, when he more or less accidentally took a bridge. I forget the details, but he was praised for that, because they needed the p.r. victory more than an actual, you know, victory.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (hku12)
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Burnside never wanted command of the Army of the Potomac because he knew he wasn't competent to lead it. He admitted to making the frontal attack at Fredericksburg, which he and everybode else on both sides knew to be a bad idea, because he couldn't think of anything else to do.
He gained some measure of fame at Antietam, when he more or less accidentally took a bridge. I forget the details, but he was praised for that, because they needed the p.r. victory more than an actual, you know, victory.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (hku12)
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Burnside never wanted command of the Army of the Potomac because he knew he wasn't competent to lead it. He admitted to making the frontal attack at Fredericksburg, which he and everybode else on both sides knew to be a bad idea, because he couldn't think of anything else to do.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (dfRN6)
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We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
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Mountains? Hell, I want to know how you're going to get them across the Tiber and into the Forum.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (2mteh)
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Just hire a Heavy to move them over the river.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (2mteh)
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Just hire a Heavy to move them over the river.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (WEBkv)
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Was it Turtledove that did the series where aliens land in the middle of WWII ? I think I quit after book two.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:02 PM (v0qEa)
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Conspiracy Theory idea: Amazon either intentionally or in-intentionally infected the US with the virus to shut down brick and mortar retail.
Where does everything Amazon sell come from? China
Where did the virus come from? China
Now, I'm not saying it was Amazon, but come on, it was Amazon.
Where does everything Amazon sell come from? China
Where did the virus come from? China
Now, I'm not saying it was Amazon, but come on, it was Amazon.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 19, 2020 12:02 PM (1ISKN)
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This is a fair question. The answer is there are external benefits society enjoys by providing those options, and those social benefits should be funded socially.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (EZebt)
See? You have questions, we have answers.
NEXT!!!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (EZebt)
See? You have questions, we have answers.
NEXT!!!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 12:02 PM (sbyCq)
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There's a furniture store across from where I live. It's been there ever since my family moved to the area from California in the early 90s. They're having a liquidation sale now.
Posted by: Augustine at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (BDZWU)
Of course, furniture stores always seem to be having "liquidation" and "stock reduction" sales.
Posted by: Augustine at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (BDZWU)
Of course, furniture stores always seem to be having "liquidation" and "stock reduction" sales.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 12:02 PM (LZcDP)
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No.. The side that can deliver to the battlefield the greatest resources, wins. Big difference there. Napoleon had huge resources but because of the Naval blockade by the English he could not deliver those resources to the field.
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (4HMlb)
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"Fustest with the mostest."
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (4HMlb)
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"Fustest with the mostest."
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at May 19, 2020 12:03 PM (dfRN6)
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Ambrose Burnside. Spent more time tending to his whiskers than planning and executing his battles.
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Burnside was involved in three of the greatest bungles of the Civil War, Burnside Bridge at Antietam (bloody, unnecessary, and didn't accomplish anything), Fredericksburg (bloodiest day for the Union Army), and the Crater at Petersburg (black troops stormed into the Crater, couldn't climb out, and shot down like fish in a barrel).
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Burnside was involved in three of the greatest bungles of the Civil War, Burnside Bridge at Antietam (bloody, unnecessary, and didn't accomplish anything), Fredericksburg (bloodiest day for the Union Army), and the Crater at Petersburg (black troops stormed into the Crater, couldn't climb out, and shot down like fish in a barrel).
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)
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Greetings:
It continues to strike me as strange that as the implications of the COVID-19 are applied to each and almost every Progressive demographic subset, one remains in a state of neglect.
That would be our homosexual brother who have some history of virus spreading proclivities as well as activities. And yet, they remain on the QT, down low, and very hush-hush.
It continues to strike me as strange that as the implications of the COVID-19 are applied to each and almost every Progressive demographic subset, one remains in a state of neglect.
That would be our homosexual brother who have some history of virus spreading proclivities as well as activities. And yet, they remain on the QT, down low, and very hush-hush.
Posted by: 11B40 at May 19, 2020 12:03 PM (evgyj)
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Abundance of caution!!! Troubling times!!! Stay safe.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (EgshT)
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Alone Together.
We will get through this together.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 11:52 AM (EgshT)
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Alone Together.
We will get through this together.
Posted by: Korporate Karens at May 19, 2020 12:03 PM (pw+jk)
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and all of the above fantasies are why amateurs discuss tactics and professionals talk logistics.
Posted by: DamnedYankee
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Here's the rule: The side with the greatest resources wins.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (mLizQ)
It is known, of course, that once the battles are over, and the monuments are being erected, the losing side's soldiers were better than the winners. Why, often one of the vanquished was worth ten of the victors.
It is known.
Posted by: DamnedYankee
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Here's the rule: The side with the greatest resources wins.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 11:54 AM (mLizQ)
It is known, of course, that once the battles are over, and the monuments are being erected, the losing side's soldiers were better than the winners. Why, often one of the vanquished was worth ten of the victors.
It is known.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
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Wolfus - One hell of save! Well done, well done indeed.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020
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Thanks . . . but what did I do? Close the italic tag?
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020
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Thanks . . . but what did I do? Close the italic tag?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (rpbg1)
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St. Louis Strong. ugh
Posted by: eyesnore at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (K7/OQ)
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We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
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Braggart.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
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Braggart.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (NVYyb)
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>>334
No.. The side that can deliver to the battlefield the greatest
resources, wins. Big difference there. Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (4HMlb)
"Amateurs talk strategy; professionals talk logistics."
No.. The side that can deliver to the battlefield the greatest
resources, wins. Big difference there. Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 11:58 AM (4HMlb)
"Amateurs talk strategy; professionals talk logistics."
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (yvnmY)
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We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
Wait. I thought we were all in this together.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
Wait. I thought we were all in this together.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (sbyCq)
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Thanks . . . but what did I do? Close the italic tag?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (rpbg1)
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One the "Battle of the Italicans" all by yourself!
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (rpbg1)
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One the "Battle of the Italicans" all by yourself!
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (WEBkv)
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Just heard our county is sending out corrected absentee ballots for local elections because they screwed up the original ones. I wonder how much that cost.
Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Beavis at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (WEBkv)
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343 We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
Wait. I thought we were all in this together.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (sbyCq)
Yeah!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
Wait. I thought we were all in this together.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (sbyCq)
Yeah!
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 12:06 PM (Ez6QX)
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Conspiracy Theory idea: Amazon either intentionally or in-intentionally infected the US with the virus to shut down brick and mortar retail.
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Mark Zuckerberg has got to be in there somewhere.
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Mark Zuckerberg has got to be in there somewhere.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)
350
Not one mention yet of how Sam Elliot saved the Union's ass at Gettysburg ? Jeez. What a bunch of pikers.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:06 PM (v0qEa)
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Wait. I thought we were all in this together.
Posted by: Cicero
We?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
Posted by: Cicero
We?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (vcOmj)
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I visited Fredericksburg last year. It boggles the mind that they would even attempt that attack. The ridge the Confederates occupied was steep. Really, really steep. Not 90 degree angle steep but it might as well been. Plus all that open ground leading to that ridge. Most of the open ground is a neighborhood now but not back then. Nuts, just nuts. On top of that ridge, the land flattens out a bit. There is a large cemetery there now. Full of Union dead. Saw lots from my home state of PA.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (AQigM)
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If the Germans had the WW2 Luftwaffe in 3 AD the #RomanEmpire would have been crushed man.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
The Irish comedian Dave Allen had a sketch where a Roman general was writing about the German tribes had united into an unstoppable war machine and how their Roman weapons and tactics were out of date. As he was finishing his thought guys dressed in German WWII uniforms burst into the tent a shot him with MP 40s
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 11:41 AM (w5sMG)
does anyone know if they ever finished the story of what would happen if a modern MEU was warped back to roman times?
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 11:56 AM (8D42x)
The Irish comedian Dave Allen had a sketch where a Roman general was writing about the German tribes had united into an unstoppable war machine and how their Roman weapons and tactics were out of date. As he was finishing his thought guys dressed in German WWII uniforms burst into the tent a shot him with MP 40s
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (4mKR9)
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We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
That selfish act alone may have killed hundreds of chirruns.
That selfish act alone may have killed hundreds of chirruns.
Posted by: A Scold of Karens at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (EgshT)
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I ate the restaurant last night. Tank.... Tank Abrams.
Posted by: azalea city misbehavin' at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (WX+x0)
356
I heard that Sam did an OK job at Settsburg from Brian Dennehey
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (4HMlb)
357
Burnside was involved in three of the greatest bungles of the Civil War, Burnside Bridge at Antietam (bloody, unnecessary, and didn't accomplish anything), Fredericksburg (bloodiest day for the Union Army), and the Crater at Petersburg (black troops stormed into the Crater, couldn't climb out, and shot down like fish in a barrel).
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)
Yup. Now Joe "TJ" Hooker was a much better division commander than he ever got credit for. He bungled Chancellorsville, but even there the problem might not have been that he was incompetent, but moreso that the Confederates were brilliant.
It's a stain on his legacy, and after Chancellorsville, he was well up to the task of preventing further damage, and slid back into a division command, with honor and distinction.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 12:03 PM (+y/Ru)
Yup. Now Joe "TJ" Hooker was a much better division commander than he ever got credit for. He bungled Chancellorsville, but even there the problem might not have been that he was incompetent, but moreso that the Confederates were brilliant.
It's a stain on his legacy, and after Chancellorsville, he was well up to the task of preventing further damage, and slid back into a division command, with honor and distinction.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)
358
It is known, of course, that once the battles are over, and the monuments are being erected, the losing side's soldiers were better than the winners. Why, often one of the vanquished was worth ten of the victors.
It is known.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
Tell that to Pompey and his superior numbers.
It is known, of course, that once the battles are over, and the monuments are being erected, the losing side's soldiers were better than the winners. Why, often one of the vanquished was worth ten of the victors.
It is known.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
Tell that to Pompey and his superior numbers.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (G2zl5)
359
CBD posed a question about why he had to pay for ADA compliance. The answer is, unless it's a city/county/state building or property, you don't.
The business has to pay for their own ADA compliance upgrades. Case in point would be CVS corporation. They were sued several years ago and have been in the process of upgrading all of their stores.
Obviously, new builds have ADA compliance built in to the plans, but not all the stores they bought out over the years do.
The business has to pay for their own ADA compliance upgrades. Case in point would be CVS corporation. They were sued several years ago and have been in the process of upgrading all of their stores.
Obviously, new builds have ADA compliance built in to the plans, but not all the stores they bought out over the years do.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (JY0wd)
360
Yeah, the left thinks a law can be narrowly tailored and be "just right" whereas those of us who know better, understand the law is nothing more than a blunt instrument that will always have unintended consequences. ...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
Moral Hazard crowds out every other concern when it comes to public policy. The Founders understood this, but it was almost immediately forgotten.
Yeah, the left thinks a law can be narrowly tailored and be "just right" whereas those of us who know better, understand the law is nothing more than a blunt instrument that will always have unintended consequences. ...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 11:53 AM (WEBkv)
Moral Hazard crowds out every other concern when it comes to public policy. The Founders understood this, but it was almost immediately forgotten.
Posted by: fktheleft at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (I54dk)
361
Gettysburg... duh
Posted by: catman at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (4HMlb)
362
341
We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
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Braggart.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (NVYyb)
Just for that I'm not cooking lunch today! We're goin to Chick-Fil-a! The garlic lime shrimp fettuccine can wait for supper!
We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
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Braggart.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (NVYyb)
Just for that I'm not cooking lunch today! We're goin to Chick-Fil-a! The garlic lime shrimp fettuccine can wait for supper!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (2mteh)
363
in-intentionally should have been unintentionally. But I like the new word better
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (1ISKN)
364
Colonels study tactics. Generals study logistics.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
365
If the French had their current thermonuclear strike capability in WW2 they still would have lost to the Germans if all the Germans had was their 4 AD army. Some things just can't be changed.
Posted by: An Observation at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (w5sMG)
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364 Colonels study tactics. Generals study logistics.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
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Lieutenants study poon.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
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Lieutenants study poon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
367
Full of Union dead. Saw lots from my home state of PA.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (AQigM)
"The river ran with more blood than water"
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 19, 2020 12:07 PM (AQigM)
"The river ran with more blood than water"
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (2mteh)
368
This is a fair question. The answer is there are external benefits society enjoys by providing those options, and those social benefits should be funded socially.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
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Ah, easily said. But, the difficulty lies in assessing the *costs* to society; economic and socially. Those are easily overlooked, extremely difficult to recognize, and highly unpredictable.
Example: Title IX
Efforts to compel 'equality', or (shudder) 'equity' are doomed not only to fail, but to do damage.
This is a fair question. The answer is there are external benefits society enjoys by providing those options, and those social benefits should be funded socially.
Posted by: San Franpsycho
----
Ah, easily said. But, the difficulty lies in assessing the *costs* to society; economic and socially. Those are easily overlooked, extremely difficult to recognize, and highly unpredictable.
Example: Title IX
Efforts to compel 'equality', or (shudder) 'equity' are doomed not only to fail, but to do damage.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (pK7cg)
369
@110
Yes, there is effectively no way to keep the plates spinning that does not involve the words, Abracadabra.
So one potential way to have a "reset" is to tank the global economy via GLOBAL PLANDEMIC, invoke the schwinn cafsham protocols, maximize the inverse derivative swaps, disgronify the input/output vectors and at the end of the day, realizing, it's all ball bearings any ways.
Voila, reset!!
The US because of it's position will probably still be number one, probably.
Who will be number 2?
That's the question.
Yes, there is effectively no way to keep the plates spinning that does not involve the words, Abracadabra.
So one potential way to have a "reset" is to tank the global economy via GLOBAL PLANDEMIC, invoke the schwinn cafsham protocols, maximize the inverse derivative swaps, disgronify the input/output vectors and at the end of the day, realizing, it's all ball bearings any ways.
Voila, reset!!
The US because of it's position will probably still be number one, probably.
Who will be number 2?
That's the question.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (T+XCu)
Posted by: freaked at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (Tnijr)
371
We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
++++++++++++
Sigh. here in the Denver area, still no in-restaurant dining. The gov says that "to make this work" we need to expand "outdoor seating." They have promised to provide "guidance" about reopening by the end of the week. It definitely ain't happening at all before June.
Many a restaurant is never going to reopen.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
++++++++++++
Sigh. here in the Denver area, still no in-restaurant dining. The gov says that "to make this work" we need to expand "outdoor seating." They have promised to provide "guidance" about reopening by the end of the week. It definitely ain't happening at all before June.
Many a restaurant is never going to reopen.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (hYcqw)
372
Moral Hazard crowds out every other concern when it comes to public policy. The Founders understood this, but it was almost immediately forgotten.
Posted by: fktheleft at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (I54dk)
Somebody said it here, and I'll never forget it. Every proposed law should have "or we shoot you" at the end. If it ain't worth killing over, it ain't worth passing a law over.
Posted by: fktheleft at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (I54dk)
Somebody said it here, and I'll never forget it. Every proposed law should have "or we shoot you" at the end. If it ain't worth killing over, it ain't worth passing a law over.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (v0qEa)
373
Can you run electricity through the beach sand and electrocute anyone foolish enough to go to the beach.
Posted by: The Mayor of New York City at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (NtOf1)
374
Ha, Biden's calls with Poroshenko with the Ukraine leaked. There was a quid pro quo after all. The Dems REALLY want him out.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (CQ3Qb)
375
Just had an interesting phone call. If it is any indication of how things are trending, things are going to get very interesting. I'm not going to elaborate, but apparently all the lockdown stuff has got people sick and tired of all kinds of things, and more to the point, sick and tired of people in leadership positions outside of government that with whom they've long had issues. I just got asked to sign on to an effort to oust the national head of an organization to which I belong. Very, very interesting and I now wonder how much of this is going on elsewhere in the country.
Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
376
373
Can you run electricity through the beach sand and electrocute anyone foolish enough to go to the beach.
Posted by: The Mayor of New York City at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (NtOf1)
Don't forget the sharks with laser beams!
Can you run electricity through the beach sand and electrocute anyone foolish enough to go to the beach.
Posted by: The Mayor of New York City at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (NtOf1)
Don't forget the sharks with laser beams!
Posted by: Dr Evil at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (2mteh)
377
It is known, of course, that once the battles are over, and the monuments are being erected, the losing side's soldiers were better than the winners. Why, often one of the vanquished was worth ten of the victors.
It is known.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
Tell that to Pompey and his superior numbers.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (G2zl5)
He dead... right?
You should know.
It is known.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)
Tell that to Pompey and his superior numbers.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (G2zl5)
He dead... right?
You should know.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (hku12)
378
that said our landfills were being filled up with plastic drinking straws.
From the Bronx zoo TV show one of their seals swallowed a novelty reusable straw they sold instead of the disposable plastics. Took 2 endoscopys to get the little monkey out.
From the Bronx zoo TV show one of their seals swallowed a novelty reusable straw they sold instead of the disposable plastics. Took 2 endoscopys to get the little monkey out.
Posted by: Beavis at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (FhXTo)
379
We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
did that Saturday on a deck at a local burger joint.
with a real live draft beer and my burger.
it was glorious...
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
did that Saturday on a deck at a local burger joint.
with a real live draft beer and my burger.
it was glorious...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (8D42x)
380
Huh. The absentee ballot "snafu" only affected Republican voters.
Ah, here it is! My Tuesday at noon model.
Ah, here it is! My Tuesday at noon model.
Posted by: That guy with unlimited shocked faces at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (EgshT)
381
Colonels study tactics. Generals study logistics.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
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Lieutenants study poon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
Captains study regulations.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
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Lieutenants study poon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
Captains study regulations.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (hku12)
382
374 Ha, Biden's calls with Poroshenko with the Ukraine leaked. There was a quid pro quo after all. The Dems REALLY want him out.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (CQ3Qb)
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Alternate theory:
Someone friendly to Trump leaked it in order to further sow chaos within the Democratic Party when they should be unifying.
Dicuss.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (CQ3Qb)
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Alternate theory:
Someone friendly to Trump leaked it in order to further sow chaos within the Democratic Party when they should be unifying.
Dicuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
383
379 We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
did that Saturday on a deck at a local burger joint.
with a real live draft beer and my burger.
it was glorious...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (8D42x)
NO FAIR!
*crosses arms, stamps foot, pouts*
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
did that Saturday on a deck at a local burger joint.
with a real live draft beer and my burger.
it was glorious...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (8D42x)
NO FAIR!
*crosses arms, stamps foot, pouts*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (Ez6QX)
384
Somebody said it here, and I'll never forget it. Every proposed law should have "or we shoot you" at the end. If it ain't worth killing over, it ain't worth passing a law over.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (v0qEa)
Yep. It's called enFORCEment for a reason.
It's not enhintsment or ennudgement.
even the parking ticket ends in you dead if you don't comply long enough.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (v0qEa)
Yep. It's called enFORCEment for a reason.
It's not enhintsment or ennudgement.
even the parking ticket ends in you dead if you don't comply long enough.
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (z79tQ)
385
>>373
Can you run electricity through the beach sand and electrocute anyone foolish enough to go to the beach. Posted by: The Mayor of New York City at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (NtOf1)
Old and busted: Border wall.
New hotness: "Welcome to El Paso Beach!"
Can you run electricity through the beach sand and electrocute anyone foolish enough to go to the beach. Posted by: The Mayor of New York City at May 19, 2020 12:11 PM (NtOf1)
Old and busted: Border wall.
New hotness: "Welcome to El Paso Beach!"
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (qXNVo)
386
https://aoghs.org/technology/first-dry-hole/
He said Tidioute
Posted by: Beavis at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (FhXTo)
That was very interesting! Thanks for linking it.
He said Tidioute
Posted by: Beavis at May 19, 2020 12:05 PM (FhXTo)
That was very interesting! Thanks for linking it.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 12:15 PM (LZcDP)
387
Someone friendly to Trump leaked it in order to further sow chaos within the Democratic Party when they should be unifying.
Dicuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
Doesn't seem smart until after he locks the nomination.
Dicuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
Doesn't seem smart until after he locks the nomination.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (CQ3Qb)
388
Watching a video about a In and Out Burger place in LA county yesterday. I noted that plastic straws were in the drinks, isn't that illegal?
Posted by: Colin at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (NtOf1)
389
Colonels study tactics. Generals study logistics.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
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Lieutenants study poon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
Captains study regulations.
Posted by: BurtTC
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EM's get the work done.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:09 PM (xInes)
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Lieutenants study poon.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (LvTSG)
Captains study regulations.
Posted by: BurtTC
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EM's get the work done.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (X22L5)
390
Somebody said it here, and I'll never forget it. Every proposed law should have "or we shoot you" at the end. If it ain't worth killing over, it ain't worth passing a law over.
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All laws on separate pages. No laws over one page long, and no more than 100 pages in the book.
Want to pass a new law? Pick the page you want to replace.
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All laws on separate pages. No laws over one page long, and no more than 100 pages in the book.
Want to pass a new law? Pick the page you want to replace.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Fewer than 1,000 healthcare workers WORLDWIDE have died from COVID-19 at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (aden2)
391
Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
They turned up the heat under the pot full of frogs just a bittttt too high.
They noticed.
They turned up the heat under the pot full of frogs just a bittttt too high.
They noticed.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (NgKpN)
392
>>>Captains study regulations.<<<
I'm still grabbing my cock. I guess that would make me a corporal?
I'm still grabbing my cock. I guess that would make me a corporal?
Posted by: Fritz at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (95j/9)
393
Very, very interesting and I now wonder how much of this is going on elsewhere in the country.
Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
That may well be, but I think the more likely reason would be that this particular panic is giving people the opportunity to reflect on things that used to go unexamined.
Very, very interesting and I now wonder how much of this is going on elsewhere in the country.
Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
That may well be, but I think the more likely reason would be that this particular panic is giving people the opportunity to reflect on things that used to go unexamined.
Posted by: fktheleft at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (I54dk)
394
387 Someone friendly to Trump leaked it in order to further sow chaos within the Democratic Party when they should be unifying.
Dicuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
Doesn't seem smart until after he locks the nomination.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (CQ3Qb)
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After the nomination, they can just ignore it.
Before the nomination, Bernie's supporters feel like Bernie still has a shot. They have fewer and fewer reasons to unify with every damaging story coming out about Biden from Reade to this.
Dicuss.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
Doesn't seem smart until after he locks the nomination.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:16 PM (CQ3Qb)
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After the nomination, they can just ignore it.
Before the nomination, Bernie's supporters feel like Bernie still has a shot. They have fewer and fewer reasons to unify with every damaging story coming out about Biden from Reade to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
395
The business has to pay for their own ADA compliance upgrades. Case in point would be CVS corporation. They were sued several years ago and have been in the process of upgrading all of their stores.
Obviously, new builds have ADA compliance built in to the plans, but not all the stores they bought out over the years do.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (JY0wd)
And who pays the costs to the business? The customers, of course.
Obviously, new builds have ADA compliance built in to the plans, but not all the stores they bought out over the years do.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (JY0wd)
And who pays the costs to the business? The customers, of course.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LZcDP)
396
Ha, Biden's calls with Poroshenko with the Ukraine leaked. There was a quid pro quo after all. The Dems REALLY want him out.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (CQ3Qb)
++++++++++
Have a link?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:12 PM (CQ3Qb)
++++++++++
Have a link?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (hYcqw)
397
>>Someone friendly to Trump leaked it in order to further sow chaos within the Democratic Party when they should be unifying.
Dicuss. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
I'm not saying small-faced monkey-soldier Mike Bloomberg did it, but...
Dicuss. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (LvTSG)
I'm not saying small-faced monkey-soldier Mike Bloomberg did it, but...
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (qXNVo)
398
Example: Title IX
Efforts to compel 'equality', or (shudder) 'equity' are doomed not only to fail, but to do damage.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (pK7cg)
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Hey, I said it was the answer. I didnt say it was the right answer!
Efforts to compel 'equality', or (shudder) 'equity' are doomed not only to fail, but to do damage.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at May 19, 2020 12:10 PM (pK7cg)
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Hey, I said it was the answer. I didnt say it was the right answer!
Posted by: San Franpsycho at May 19, 2020 12:18 PM (EZebt)
399
Before the nomination, Bernie's supporters feel like
Bernie still has a shot. They have fewer and fewer reasons to unify
with every damaging story coming out about Biden from Reade to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
If the plan is to push the BernieBros over the edge all they have to do is leak evidence that Obama/Biden was also surveilling Bernie in 2015/2016.
Bernie still has a shot. They have fewer and fewer reasons to unify
with every damaging story coming out about Biden from Reade to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
If the plan is to push the BernieBros over the edge all they have to do is leak evidence that Obama/Biden was also surveilling Bernie in 2015/2016.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (CQ3Qb)
400
Want to pass a new law? Pick the page you want to replace.
Another good thing I read here - 2/3 to enact a law, only 1/2 to repeal.
Another good thing I read here - 2/3 to enact a law, only 1/2 to repeal.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (UGLi1)
401
I noted that plastic straws were in the drinks, isn't that illegal?
Posted by: Colin
Anti-lockdown paraphernalia.
Posted by: Colin
Anti-lockdown paraphernalia.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (+y/Ru)
402
We ate at a restaurant last night. It was glorious.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
did that Saturday on a deck at a local burger joint.
with a real live draft beer and my burger.
it was glorious...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (8D42x)
NO FAIR!
*crosses arms, stamps foot, pouts*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (Ez6QX)
ah, for once it's good to be in the southern tidewater.
i suspect lots of people here are trying to ignore gov coonman.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:01 PM (bWBdM)
did that Saturday on a deck at a local burger joint.
with a real live draft beer and my burger.
it was glorious...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 12:13 PM (8D42x)
NO FAIR!
*crosses arms, stamps foot, pouts*
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 19, 2020 12:14 PM (Ez6QX)
ah, for once it's good to be in the southern tidewater.
i suspect lots of people here are trying to ignore gov coonman.
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (8D42x)
403
We are all disabled now.
Posted by: ShainS at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (WqPYg)
404
John Ratcliffe approved by the Burr-free Senate Intel Committee. Great job by Grenell!
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (y7DUB)
405
That may well be, but I think the more likely reason
would be that this particular panic is giving people the opportunity to
reflect on things that used to go unexamined.
Posted by: fktheleft at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM
I think it's a combination of that and "while we're pissed off, we're going to start doing something about other things that have been pissing us off". This particular situation has been simmering for a couple of years.
would be that this particular panic is giving people the opportunity to
reflect on things that used to go unexamined.
Posted by: fktheleft at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM
I think it's a combination of that and "while we're pissed off, we're going to start doing something about other things that have been pissing us off". This particular situation has been simmering for a couple of years.
Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (OMsf+)
406
I study who the fuck is walking on my grass.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
407
Very, very interesting and I now wonder how much of this is going on elsewhere in the country.
======================
I'm going to say: A LOT. And the fact that Trump only sent guidance, and left the state leaders to their own idiotic mandates was genius. People know who's doing what, to whom. I think there could be a massive red wave coming.
======================
I'm going to say: A LOT. And the fact that Trump only sent guidance, and left the state leaders to their own idiotic mandates was genius. People know who's doing what, to whom. I think there could be a massive red wave coming.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (bWBdM)
408
399 Before the nomination, Bernie's supporters feel like
Bernie still has a shot. They have fewer and fewer reasons to unify
with every damaging story coming out about Biden from Reade to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
If the plan is to push the BernieBros over the edge all they have to do is leak evidence that Obama/Biden was also surveilling Bernie in 2015/2016.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (CQ3Qb)
=========
Bernie's supporters are just one faction, but yeah, that would be the piece de resistance for them.
There is shockingly little unification going on in the Democratic Party these days after Biden has the nomination in effect.
Bernie still has a shot. They have fewer and fewer reasons to unify
with every damaging story coming out about Biden from Reade to this.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LvTSG)
If the plan is to push the BernieBros over the edge all they have to do is leak evidence that Obama/Biden was also surveilling Bernie in 2015/2016.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (CQ3Qb)
=========
Bernie's supporters are just one faction, but yeah, that would be the piece de resistance for them.
There is shockingly little unification going on in the Democratic Party these days after Biden has the nomination in effect.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (LvTSG)
409
I've mentioned that because all they hear is how dangerous this Chinese flu is to people over "29" my children have been n board with this nonsense. I think it's cause I'm actually the last person in our extended family left who is over 29. But yesterday things changed! My son got called back to work and a daughter got permission to reopen her business. Both of them were horrified by the new rules they have to abide by! My daughter has 1 employee ( not counting her and her husband), and she now has to daily take his temperature, and also hire a liaison to instruct the employee how to report her if she fails to protect him,etc. my son is a millwright, so he has to have fewer employees in order to meet quartile guidelines, they also have to take temperatures, and wear masks and shields! They both are aware now of what I've been saying about you don't appreciate freedom until it's taken away. My dad used to say pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered. I think the rules-which are mandatory and must be obeyed-Gretchen has put in place will slaughter our dem governor.
Posted by: Chillin the most at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (lonOK)
410
Here's the audio of the Biden call: https://rb.gy/rsiy0t
Zerohedge has a partial transcript and the smoking gun(s).
Zerohedge has a partial transcript and the smoking gun(s).
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (CQ3Qb)
411
404 John Ratcliffe approved by the Burr-free Senate Intel Committee. Great job by Grenell!
Good and bad... I'll miss Grenell
Good and bad... I'll miss Grenell
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (Zmnko)
412
>>If the plan is to push the BernieBros over the
edge all they have to do is leak evidence that Obama/Biden was also
surveilling Bernie in 2015/2016. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (CQ3Qb)
There's a certain neuron receptor that Bernie supporters share that is uniquely positioned to fry upon receiving this kind of evidence. They have this in common with many former Ron Paul types.
"Your man was *cheated* out of the nomination...!"
edge all they have to do is leak evidence that Obama/Biden was also
surveilling Bernie in 2015/2016. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (CQ3Qb)
There's a certain neuron receptor that Bernie supporters share that is uniquely positioned to fry upon receiving this kind of evidence. They have this in common with many former Ron Paul types.
"Your man was *cheated* out of the nomination...!"
Posted by: Zod at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (qXNVo)
413
Another good thing I read here - 2/3 to enact a law, only 1/2 to repeal.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (UGLi1)
_________
Too bad The Founders didn't establlish a 9/10 supermajority to laws, and a 1/10 superminority to repeal them.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (UGLi1)
_________
Too bad The Founders didn't establlish a 9/10 supermajority to laws, and a 1/10 superminority to repeal them.
Posted by: ShainS at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (WqPYg)
414
400 Want to pass a new law? Pick the page you want to replace.
Another good thing I read here - 2/3 to enact a law, only 1/2 to repeal.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (UGLi1)
==========
I've always like the House of Repeals idea.
People elected to Congress with the expressed purpose of repealing law.
Another good thing I read here - 2/3 to enact a law, only 1/2 to repeal.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:19 PM (UGLi1)
==========
I've always like the House of Repeals idea.
People elected to Congress with the expressed purpose of repealing law.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (LvTSG)
415
*to enact laws
Posted by: ShainS at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (WqPYg)
416
The TRACE temperature-taking reminded me: 2 weeks ago, in the midst of all this Kungpandemic, i had to visit my ENT. they'd cleared out the normally packed waiting room, and had an attendant taking everyone's temperature as they stepped off the elevator, which opens directly into the waiting room (converted former apartment building, i suspect). The problem is, the contact-less thermometer was seriously in need of calibration. My temp registered 94.3F. The 'technician' shrugged, recorded it, and moved on to the next patient.
This was a medical person, in a doctor's office. Can you imagine the value of such measurements when collected and recorded by a coffee technician at a mall?
This was a medical person, in a doctor's office. Can you imagine the value of such measurements when collected and recorded by a coffee technician at a mall?
Posted by: goatexchange at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (iUjXP)
417
John Ratcliffe approved by the Burr-free Senate Intel Committee. Great job by Grenell!
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (y7DUB)
Wow, really? Someone told little Marco not to F around.
Burr should go to prison. And yeah, I know people are going to say "not until the Democrats start going first," but at this point I think I'm gonna just let that process play out.
What WE need to do, is hold these rotten Gopes up to the light, and get rid of as many of them, replacing them with something close to honest conservatives, as possible.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (y7DUB)
Wow, really? Someone told little Marco not to F around.
Burr should go to prison. And yeah, I know people are going to say "not until the Democrats start going first," but at this point I think I'm gonna just let that process play out.
What WE need to do, is hold these rotten Gopes up to the light, and get rid of as many of them, replacing them with something close to honest conservatives, as possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (hku12)
418
I study who the fuck is walking on my grass.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
Is that studying done in BDC, Mil dot or red dot
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
Is that studying done in BDC, Mil dot or red dot
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (z79tQ)
419
Whoaa, Mitch, don't get too far out on that limb old boy.
Mitch McConnell: "You would have to be blind to not see a pattern of unfairness towards Trump."
Mitch McConnell: "You would have to be blind to not see a pattern of unfairness towards Trump."
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (T+XCu)
420
And who pays the costs to the business? The customers, of course.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LZcDP)
Sure they do, just as people pay higher taxes when the local roads and bridges get fixed/rebuilt.
Every single thing that's done to private business and public infrastructure has a cost increase built in it whether it's higher product cost for consumers or higher taxes.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 19, 2020 12:17 PM (LZcDP)
Sure they do, just as people pay higher taxes when the local roads and bridges get fixed/rebuilt.
Every single thing that's done to private business and public infrastructure has a cost increase built in it whether it's higher product cost for consumers or higher taxes.
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at May 19, 2020 12:23 PM (JY0wd)
421
I'm going to say: A LOT. And the fact that Trump
only sent guidance, and left the state leaders to their own idiotic
mandates was genius. People know who's doing what, to whom. I think
there could be a massive red wave coming.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM
Here's the thing: in my instance, it's a fraternal organization. But the guy they want to oust is a big leftist, so I think we're going to see not just a red wave in government elections. We're going to see it outside as well.
only sent guidance, and left the state leaders to their own idiotic
mandates was genius. People know who's doing what, to whom. I think
there could be a massive red wave coming.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM
Here's the thing: in my instance, it's a fraternal organization. But the guy they want to oust is a big leftist, so I think we're going to see not just a red wave in government elections. We're going to see it outside as well.
Posted by: Bert G at May 19, 2020 12:23 PM (OMsf+)
422
I study who the fuck is walking on my grass.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
Is that studying done in BDC, Mil dot or red dot
Posted by: OneEyedJack
Green laser.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
Is that studying done in BDC, Mil dot or red dot
Posted by: OneEyedJack
Green laser.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 19, 2020 12:23 PM (dfEoR)
423
Stephanie Myers @_StephanieMyers
1h
NEW:
The Senate Intelligence Committee approves nomination of John Ratcliffe to be next Director of National Intelligence in a 8-7 party-line vote.
1h
NEW:
The Senate Intelligence Committee approves nomination of John Ratcliffe to be next Director of National Intelligence in a 8-7 party-line vote.
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 19, 2020 12:23 PM (xqvTP)
424
Mitch McConnell: "You would have to be blind to not see a pattern of unfairness towards Trump.
Whoa.. Unfairness Mitch? get my fainting couch
Whoa.. Unfairness Mitch? get my fainting couch
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:24 PM (Zmnko)
425
Mil dot. Everything else was invented for commies.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:24 PM (xInes)
426
I just bought a mask to wear for the remaining duration of California's lockdown.
An Alien Face-Hugger mask.
An Alien Face-Hugger mask.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 19, 2020 12:24 PM (BM2fS)
427
Good and bad... I'll miss Grenell
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (Zmnko)
You certainly don't think the Golden Scalpweasel will pass up an opportunity to troll Mutt Rombley by not putting him in a high visibility position calling for a destruction machine, do you?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (Zmnko)
You certainly don't think the Golden Scalpweasel will pass up an opportunity to troll Mutt Rombley by not putting him in a high visibility position calling for a destruction machine, do you?
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:24 PM (y7DUB)
428
Just as an aside, should the Punk Monkey have his/her fingers in their mouth woth Hong Kong Fluey ?
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 19, 2020 12:24 PM (xqvTP)
429
I think the link I just posted is just one of the clips. That NABU Leaks channel has several others.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:24 PM (CQ3Qb)
430
I study who the fuck is walking on my grass.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
Heh. No shit.
Posted by: CSMBigBird at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (xInes)
Heh. No shit.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 19, 2020 12:25 PM (UGLi1)
431
429 I think the link I just posted is just one of the clips. That NABU Leaks channel has several others
But, but Barr says we're not gonna investigate Biden
But, but Barr says we're not gonna investigate Biden
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:25 PM (Zmnko)
432
Who would have access to recorded calls made between the US Vice President and Ukraine's President in 2015?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (CQ3Qb)
433
I didn't think the Red Letter Media 'Picard' review was bad.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (oVJmc)
434
Zerohedge has a partial transcript and the smoking gun(s).
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (CQ3Qb)
+++++++++++
"Yesterday I met with General Prosecutor Shokin," says Poroshenko. And despite of the fact that we didn't have any corruption charges, we don't have any information about him doing something wrong, I specially asked him - no, it was day before yesterday - I specially asked him to resign. In, uh, as his, uh, position as a state person. And despite of the fact that he has a support in the power. And as a finish of my meeting with him, he promised to give me the statement on resignation. And one hour ago he bring me the written statement of his resignation. And this is my second step for keeping my promises."
To which Biden replied: "I agree."
...
"And I'm a man of my word," Biden adds. "And now that the new Prosecutor General is in place, we're ready to move forward to signing that one billion dollar loan guarantee."
Damn.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (CQ3Qb)
+++++++++++
"Yesterday I met with General Prosecutor Shokin," says Poroshenko. And despite of the fact that we didn't have any corruption charges, we don't have any information about him doing something wrong, I specially asked him - no, it was day before yesterday - I specially asked him to resign. In, uh, as his, uh, position as a state person. And despite of the fact that he has a support in the power. And as a finish of my meeting with him, he promised to give me the statement on resignation. And one hour ago he bring me the written statement of his resignation. And this is my second step for keeping my promises."
To which Biden replied: "I agree."
...
"And I'm a man of my word," Biden adds. "And now that the new Prosecutor General is in place, we're ready to move forward to signing that one billion dollar loan guarantee."
Damn.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (hYcqw)
435
Give it a few more years and the functionally retarded left will require consumable coffee cups because too many of their voters were chewing on the paper and choking.
It's the same ones that chug Strawberry Essence Shampoo.
It's the same ones that chug Strawberry Essence Shampoo.
Posted by: Orson at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM (sg905)
436
Who would have access to recorded calls made between the US Vice President and Ukraine's President in 2015?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (CQ3Qb)
You've been here how long and you still ask this question?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (CQ3Qb)
You've been here how long and you still ask this question?
Posted by: Bob from NSA at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM (z79tQ)
437
I'm going to say: A LOT. And the fact that Trump only sent guidance, and left the state leaders to their own idiotic mandates was genius. People know who's doing what, to whom. I think there could be a massive red wave coming.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (bWBdM)
---------------
Yeah, D's governors were begging for PDT to go dictator on them so they could avoid responsibility.
It didn't work out too well for them, did it?
Bwahahahaha.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (bWBdM)
---------------
Yeah, D's governors were begging for PDT to go dictator on them so they could avoid responsibility.
It didn't work out too well for them, did it?
Bwahahahaha.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM (WEBkv)
438
433 I didn't think the Red Letter Media 'Picard' review was bad.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (oVJmc)
==========
I didn't either.
I don't think Plinkett was nitpicking that much. He was explaining how the intricate plotting of the show made absolutely no sense, how the show was devoid of any character, and then how it didn't seem to have anything to do with the entire franchise that came before Discovery while also touching on the fact that Patrick Stewart probably shouldn't have had any creative control of the show.
He even used bits from the Next Generation movies (which he doesn't like and doesn't consider canon) in support, saying that even they got it right.
It all ended with a nice few minutes of clips from the old shows demonstrating what it was in Star Trek that he loved.
I think it was a multi-faceted critique that really took Picard apart well.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 19, 2020 12:26 PM (oVJmc)
==========
I didn't either.
I don't think Plinkett was nitpicking that much. He was explaining how the intricate plotting of the show made absolutely no sense, how the show was devoid of any character, and then how it didn't seem to have anything to do with the entire franchise that came before Discovery while also touching on the fact that Patrick Stewart probably shouldn't have had any creative control of the show.
He even used bits from the Next Generation movies (which he doesn't like and doesn't consider canon) in support, saying that even they got it right.
It all ended with a nice few minutes of clips from the old shows demonstrating what it was in Star Trek that he loved.
I think it was a multi-faceted critique that really took Picard apart well.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM (LvTSG)
439
434 "And I'm a man of my word," Biden adds. "And now that the new Prosecutor General is in place, we're ready to move forward to signing that one billion dollar loan guarantee."
==========
I'm sorry, but if what Trump said was impeachable, this is outright criminal.
==========
I'm sorry, but if what Trump said was impeachable, this is outright criminal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
440
"And I'm a man of my word," Biden adds. "And now that the new Prosecutor General is in place, we're ready to move forward to signing that one billion dollar loan guarantee."
Damn.
But he doesn't say anything about Hunter and it's under the guise of the guy was corrupt... I don't see a smoking gun
Damn.
But he doesn't say anything about Hunter and it's under the guise of the guy was corrupt... I don't see a smoking gun
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (Zmnko)
441
Yeah, D's governors were begging for PDT to go dictator on them so they could avoid responsibility.
It didn't work out too well for them, did it?
Bwahahahaha.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM (WEBkv)
+++++++++++
That was an obvious trap and I am glad Trump didn't walk into it.
It didn't work out too well for them, did it?
Bwahahahaha.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM (WEBkv)
+++++++++++
That was an obvious trap and I am glad Trump didn't walk into it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (hYcqw)
442
hey went shopping at Lowe's, no mask because not 'required', just 'recommended'. Employees wearing masks as were most of the customers. Maybe 2 other citizens unmasked. No one gave me the stink eye for not complying.
Traffic on the street seems to have returned to near-normal pre-Panic levels.
Huzzah
Traffic on the street seems to have returned to near-normal pre-Panic levels.
Huzzah
Posted by: DB- just DB. at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (iTXRQ)
443
I'm sorry, but if what Trump said was impeachable, this is outright criminal.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
In Biden's defense I doubt he remembers any of it.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (LvTSG)
In Biden's defense I doubt he remembers any of it.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (CQ3Qb)
444
Is that studying done in BDC, Mil dot or red dot
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (z79tQ)
That took me a second, now I have to clean coffee off the monitor.
Is that studying done in BDC, Mil dot or red dot
Posted by: OneEyedJack at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (z79tQ)
That took me a second, now I have to clean coffee off the monitor.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (2mteh)
445
But he doesn't say anything about Hunter and it's under the guise of the guy was corrupt... I don't see a smoking gun
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (Zmnko)
++++++++++
He didn't directly say it, no (though I haven't listened to the whole transcript). They would have removed Trump for that transcript, though.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:28 PM (Zmnko)
++++++++++
He didn't directly say it, no (though I haven't listened to the whole transcript). They would have removed Trump for that transcript, though.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 19, 2020 12:29 PM (hYcqw)
446
@431
As I said in another thread, If Barr/Durham deliver the reckoning to the two dozen or so coup perpetrators, then an investigation of Obama and Biden will not be necessary
as rats will give up the snakes and the derogatory information in indictments will make it clear that the buck stopped at the SCOAMF and his retarded VP.
As I said in another thread, If Barr/Durham deliver the reckoning to the two dozen or so coup perpetrators, then an investigation of Obama and Biden will not be necessary
as rats will give up the snakes and the derogatory information in indictments will make it clear that the buck stopped at the SCOAMF and his retarded VP.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 19, 2020 12:29 PM (T+XCu)
447
He didn't directly say it, no (though I haven't listened to the whole transcript). They would have removed Trump for that transcript, though.
Of course
Of course
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:29 PM (Zmnko)
448
#435 no one who accepted the Tide Pod Challenge has ever died of coronavirus.
Posted by: torabora at May 19, 2020 12:30 PM (LLgj/)
449
417
John Ratcliffe approved by the Burr-free Senate Intel Committee. Great job by Grenell!
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (y7DUB)
Wow, really? Someone told little Marco not to F around.
Burr should go to prison. And yeah, I know people are going to say
"not until the Democrats start going first," but at this point I think
I'm gonna just let that process play out.
What WE need to do, is hold these rotten Gopes up to the light, and
get rid of as many of them, replacing them with something close to
honest conservatives, as possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (hku12)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This. Oh, so much THIS!
John Ratcliffe approved by the Burr-free Senate Intel Committee. Great job by Grenell!
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:20 PM (y7DUB)
Wow, really? Someone told little Marco not to F around.
Burr should go to prison. And yeah, I know people are going to say
"not until the Democrats start going first," but at this point I think
I'm gonna just let that process play out.
What WE need to do, is hold these rotten Gopes up to the light, and
get rid of as many of them, replacing them with something close to
honest conservatives, as possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (hku12)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This. Oh, so much THIS!
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 19, 2020 12:30 PM (N39Ws)
450
What WE need to do, is hold these rotten Gopes up to the light, and get rid of as many of them, replacing them with something close to honest conservatives, as possible.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (hku12)
Fuck Burr. Let him get conjugal visits from Mark Warner and they can talk sweet nothings about Russian collusion until the viagara wears off.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:22 PM (hku12)
Fuck Burr. Let him get conjugal visits from Mark Warner and they can talk sweet nothings about Russian collusion until the viagara wears off.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 19, 2020 12:30 PM (y7DUB)
451
Nood
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off at May 19, 2020 12:30 PM (IYHxL)
452
The business has to pay for their own ADA compliance upgrades.
Businesses never pay for anything including taxes. They raise prices to cover costs or go out of business.
Businesses never pay for anything including taxes. They raise prices to cover costs or go out of business.
Posted by: DaveA at May 19, 2020 12:31 PM (FhXTo)
453
It's the same ones that chug Strawberry Essence Shampoo.
Posted by: Orson at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM
I prefer the heady bouquet of the original Herbal Essence, myself.
Posted by: Orson at May 19, 2020 12:27 PM
I prefer the heady bouquet of the original Herbal Essence, myself.
Posted by: Joe Biden at May 19, 2020 12:31 PM (DMUuz)
454
As I said in another thread, If Barr/Durham deliver the reckoning to the two dozen or so coup perpetrators, then an investigation of Obama and Biden will not be necessary
as rats will give up the snakes and the derogatory information in indictments will make it clear that the buck stopped at the SCOAMF and his retarded VP.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 19, 2020 12:29 PM (T+XCu)
You want: Obama Biden
You'll settle for: 2 dozen others
You'll get: LOLGF
as rats will give up the snakes and the derogatory information in indictments will make it clear that the buck stopped at the SCOAMF and his retarded VP.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 19, 2020 12:29 PM (T+XCu)
You want: Obama Biden
You'll settle for: 2 dozen others
You'll get: LOLGF
Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at May 19, 2020 12:32 PM (SJDa9)
455
Who's Olson, and why does he have Georgian TV on his website?
The standard Georgian salutation translates more/less as "to victory!".
No - nobody can tell you which victory in Georgian history it refers to, there being none, really.
Georgian sounds a bit like Klingon, and the script probably resembles Klingon.
The standard Georgian salutation translates more/less as "to victory!".
No - nobody can tell you which victory in Georgian history it refers to, there being none, really.
Georgian sounds a bit like Klingon, and the script probably resembles Klingon.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 19, 2020 12:33 PM (El6T/)
456
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at May 19, 2020 12:21 PM (CQ3Qb)
Sound quality of the participants points that this was recorded from the Ukraine end.
Which makes it even more interesting.
Sound quality of the participants points that this was recorded from the Ukraine end.
Which makes it even more interesting.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 19, 2020 12:33 PM (NgKpN)
457
Yup. Now Joe "TJ" Hooker was a much better division commander than he ever got credit for. He bungled Chancellorsville, but even there the problem might not have been that he was incompetent, but moreso that the Confederates were brilliant.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)
Didn't help that according to legend, Gen Hooker was passed out drunk through a good part of the battle. Don't know if the legend is true, but he DID have a reputation of running his headquarters like a saloon with his drinking buddy Dan Sickles (a notorious party-boy).
Ironically, Sickles was pretty much the only Union general who really had his shit together at Chancellorsville. Saw what Lee was doing and begged in vain for reinforcement to stop the coming disaster.
Yup. Now Joe "TJ" Hooker was a much better division commander than he ever got credit for. He bungled Chancellorsville, but even there the problem might not have been that he was incompetent, but moreso that the Confederates were brilliant.
Posted by: BurtTC at May 19, 2020 12:08 PM (hku12)
Didn't help that according to legend, Gen Hooker was passed out drunk through a good part of the battle. Don't know if the legend is true, but he DID have a reputation of running his headquarters like a saloon with his drinking buddy Dan Sickles (a notorious party-boy).
Ironically, Sickles was pretty much the only Union general who really had his shit together at Chancellorsville. Saw what Lee was doing and begged in vain for reinforcement to stop the coming disaster.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 19, 2020 12:34 PM (EGyGV)
458
700$ later.......I'm assuming I'll have a working sump pump
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off
Are ya STILL at it ?
Posted by: thathalfrican - Clark Kent with the glasses off
Are ya STILL at it ?
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2020 12:36 PM (arJlL)
459
But, but Barr says we're not gonna investigate Biden
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:25 PM (Zmnko)
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NO! he did not say that
Posted by: It's me donna at May 19, 2020 12:25 PM (Zmnko)
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NO! he did not say that
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 19, 2020 12:39 PM (xqvTP)
460
Wait. I thought we were all in this together.
Posted by: Cicero
We?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America
Nah; the mice all went to Sharon's house.
Posted by: Cicero
We?
You got a mouse in your pocket?
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America
Nah; the mice all went to Sharon's house.
Posted by: JT at May 19, 2020 12:39 PM (arJlL)
461
There's a furniture store across from where I live. It's been there ever since my family moved to the area from California in the early 90s. They're having a liquidation sale now.
Posted by: Augustine at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (BDZWU)
There was a furniture store in my hometown that had a 20-year-long liquidation sale.
Posted by: Augustine at May 19, 2020 12:00 PM (BDZWU)
There was a furniture store in my hometown that had a 20-year-long liquidation sale.
Posted by: Sooner at May 19, 2020 12:46 PM (Fs5vw)
462
They are speaking Georgian!
Not clicking the link, but I presume we're talking "Stalin's mother tongue" Georgian and not "just two good ol' boys, never meanin' no harm" Georgian.
Not clicking the link, but I presume we're talking "Stalin's mother tongue" Georgian and not "just two good ol' boys, never meanin' no harm" Georgian.
Posted by: Kevin in ABQ at May 19, 2020 01:53 PM (2seZf)
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