Corrupt Judge Sullivan, Who Previously Threatened to Jail Michael Flynn for Treason When He Moved to Withdraw His Guilty Plea, Now Invites Leftwingers Who Want Flynn Jailed To Submit Their Own Motions As To Why Flynn Should Still Be Sentenced.


Sullivan is saying that there is no actual real court case here because there are not opposing parties in the action -- he is claiming that Barr, due to politics, is on Flynn's side, and you can't have a court hearing with two parties who agree. You need to bring in other parties -- through the amicus curae ("friend of the court") process.

And he's inviting Adam Schiff to file an amicus brief and become, in essence, the actual party opposed to Flynn.

Because Barr is -- there is no way around this insinuation -- is corrupt and his filings must be ignored by the court as rigged or fraudulent.

I suppose a less dramatic reading would be, "Sullivan sees that Flynn and the DOJ both agree that no crime has been committed here, and, for the sake of due diligence, is seeking out a third party who disagrees to give the court a dissenting view."

But then --

Remember, this guy threatened to charge Flynn with a charge he was never before charged with, treason, if he persisted on withdrawing his guilty plea.

And he's not done yet.

Also note, he admits that the Local Rules (which govern his court and therefore govern him) do not give him any power to do this, but he just says LEEEEROY JENKINS! and writes up the order anyway.

Tar, feathers. A rail and a town to ride it out on.

Some assembly required.

Update: AlextheChick Explains:

123 Can someone please explain this in English to a non-lawyer?

From the beginning. It seemed like we jumped in in the middle here.
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (9hauA)

I'll start at the beginning of the end - appropriate disclaimer, I have never done anything Federal criminal law and I'm going off memory for some of this so go lick that salt lick over there for what I am typing.

The baby steps version:

The prosecutor files criminal charges. Those charges then go before a judge. It is the judge who is in charge of the management of the case, not the prosecutor. Since a guilty plea was entered, that means there is no fact finding part of the case (juries find facts, judges apply the law), so all that is left is for the judge to apply the law.

The rules and precedent permit the withdrawal of a guilty plea. However, such a withdrawal is constrained to certain circumstances in order to streamline the judicial process. You can't just say I'm withdrawing that plea and it's withdrawn. The judge has to approve it. What Powell has been fighting with Sullivan about is that Sullivan refuses to grant that withdrawal.

Somewhat similar is that the DOJ cannot just walk into a courtroom and say "our bad" and drop the case. The judge must approve the motion to dismiss the case. Now, by rule and precedent, the judge has basically no discretion there. While it is the judge's case to manage, it is the DOJ who presents the prosecution. When the DOJ says yeah, there's nothing to prosecute, the judge is required to sign an order saying motion granted.

Sullivan has not done that. Not only that, he is now doing something that I had no idea was permissible in criminal cases and that is asking for amicus (friend of the court) briefs as to why that shouldn't be allowed. At least that's what it looks like.

Maybe this is permissible but I've never heard of it but, again, not even close to my area of expertise.

An intervenor is a person or entity that is not a party to a case but who has an interest in the case and this is permitted to intervene (join in) the case as a party. That is not permissible in criminal cases. We do not have private Federal criminal prosecutions.

So, the tl;dr is that Sullivan is just making shit up here and is refusing to grant the motion to dismiss to be an asshole to Flynn and to tell Barr to kiss his ass.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.


Posted by: Ace at 07:06 PM




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1

Recusal is pretty much mandatory at this point.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:07 PM (SFOr6)

2 First!

Posted by: Into the Canal at May 12, 2020 07:08 PM (786Ro)

3 In at the beginning of another numbingly long comment thread from my fellow shutins.

Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at May 12, 2020 07:08 PM (n9plY)

4 I think tar & feathers might be too good for him.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at May 12, 2020 07:08 PM (h0TK7)

5 I actually don't mind. The worse this gets, the more obvious to even the most brain dead that the system is broken and corrupt.

Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:08 PM (T6t7i)

6 Top Ten, and Jackstraw jerks it with beets.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:09 PM (KnJdm)

7 I've fallen and I can';t comment up except to note that "Into the Canal" was just a little too quick to, ahem, shoot what little wad he/she has

Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at May 12, 2020 07:09 PM (n9plY)

8 Uh, the cops and the prosecution made the whole thing up. Sober up, Judge, and to Hell with your beltway cocktail party invites.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2020 07:09 PM (oVJmc)

9 Tar, feathers. A rail and a town to ride it out on.

Not to be confused with the equine on which one entered the town.

Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:09 PM (T6t7i)

10 "Top Ten, and Jackstraw jerks it with beets."

Ewww.

Posted by: shit in with cheeto stained hands at May 12, 2020 07:10 PM (9m9TT)

11 Time for Sullivan to take a long nap with his enema bag,

Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at May 12, 2020 07:10 PM (n9plY)

12 Banana, republic. No assembly required.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 12, 2020 07:10 PM (2ygtH)

13 I am pretty sure that it is SOP for a judge to offer a case to whomever he thinks will file charges when the prosecution has dropped said charges.

Happens all the time I would guess.

Yep. Nothing to see here.

Posted by: Just Lily at May 12, 2020 07:11 PM (xzjZc)

14 B/c your girlfriend wore me out last night, Gerard

Posted by: Into the Canal at May 12, 2020 07:11 PM (786Ro)

15 Just pardon Flynn yesterday and end this witch hunt.

Then impeach the judge.

Take off and nuke the site from orbit, lop off the head, stake the heart, salt the ground, you know.. the usual.

Posted by: Fen at May 12, 2020 07:11 PM (WE806)

16 DC needs a Tsar Bomba moment.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at May 12, 2020 07:12 PM (4vNgL)

17 Some general background

Recusal of a district court judge is required under 28 U.S.C. § 144 when a party [*3] demonstrates that the judge "has a personal bias or prejudice" against her or in favor of an adverse party. A judge must "disqualify himself in any proceeding in which his impartiality might reasonably be questioned." 28 U.S.C. § 455(a). Matters arising out of the course of judicial proceedings, however, are not a proper basis for recusal, and disqualification under § 455(a) is required only when the alleged bias is personal in nature, that is, stemming from an extra-judicial source. Loranger v. Stierheim, 10 F.3d 776, 780 (11th Cir. 1994). Thus, as a general rule, a judge's rulings in a case are not valid grounds for recusal. Id. Additionally, while refusals to recuse are reviewable in mandamus, they are also reviewable on appeal. See Christo v. Padgett, 223 F.3d 1324, 1333 n.10 (11th Cir. 2000); In re Lopez-Lukis, 113 F.3d 1187, 1187-88 (11th Cir. 1997) (addressing the petitioners' arguments in their mandamus petition seeking an order requiring the district court judge to grant their previously denied motion seeking his recusal).

In re Law, No. 19-12626-J, 2019 U.S. App. LEXIS 38622, at *2-3 (11th Cir. Dec. 27, 2019)

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:12 PM (SFOr6)

18 Remember, this guy threatened to charge Flynn with a charge he was never before charged with, treason, if he persisted on withdrawing his guilty plea.


A WITCH! HE'S A WIIIIITTTCCCCHHHH!!!!

Posted by: Judge Sullivan at May 12, 2020 07:12 PM (oVJmc)

19 Americans are far too polite.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 12, 2020 07:12 PM (m/Gc2)

20 6 Top Ten, and Jackstraw jerks it with beets.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:09 PM (KnJdm)

I'm guessing I missed something while I was driving home.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 12, 2020 07:12 PM (OzQGF)

21 There is a way to deal with this you know......

Posted by: Norman Spiny at May 12, 2020 07:13 PM (NSEzS)

22

And amici cannot argue. Schiff would have to intervene. Which is not really possible in criminal law as far as I am aware.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:13 PM (SFOr6)

23
Notice how fast this cocksucking judge moves for the Deep State but delayed delayed delayed every time Flynn wanted something.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:13 PM (0ZqdL)

24 When does ANY criminal case have "opposing parties" other than the defendant on one side and the State on another????

Posted by: Noam Sayen at May 12, 2020 07:13 PM (pDYQ0)

25 Can prosecutors pick their friends to judge a case if the trial judge dismisses it?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (Ndje9)

26 But... I've been assured that Sullivan is a straight shooter. A white hat. Not to be trifled with. All guys like that call in Adam Schiff to end-run the proceedings. It's 9D chess. Etc.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (5jaxN)

27 That is fucked up to an almost unbelievable degree.

I sometimes fall into to the trap of thinking that I am too cynical. Then I find that somehow, contrary to what I thought was (meta)physically possible, I am not nearly cynical enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (49vFo)

28
This cocksucking judge is as bad as the cocksucking judge in the Roger Stone fake trial.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (0ZqdL)

29 Getting closer, eh?

Posted by: National Divorce at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (4Q1w7)

30 wow, I wish I thought Mr O'Spades was joking.

this is way into ayfkm? territory.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (cqteU)

31 willowed:
He has absolute immunity as a judge. So the appellate court yells at him, he won't give a shit.


It's almost as if our Founding Fathers were thinking about this sort of thing when they wrote the Second Amendment.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:14 PM (vDlBn)

32 "If you fuck this up, I will drive over you with my tractor....all.day.long."

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at May 12, 2020 07:15 PM (myjNJ)

33 Hey anyone have Roberts cell number? I wanna ask him about his comment that there are not obama and trump judges?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:15 PM (85Gof)

34 We are in a war. Wake up. Act accordingly. They have no morals, no scruples. They are dishonest in their advocacy of a new world order not based on individual rights but on the rule of them.

Posted by: iandeal at May 12, 2020 07:15 PM (vgGyZ)

35
I look forward to hearing from Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:15 PM (SFAhl)

36 I'm guessing I missed something while I was driving home.

Posted by: Jordan61 at May 12, 2020 07:12 PM (OzQGF)

It's nothing, as I am sure Jackstraw will assure everyone.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (KnJdm)

37 Can someone please explain this in English to a non-lawyer?

From the beginning. It seemed like we jumped in in the middle here.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (9hauA)

38 >>>And amici cannot argue. Schiff would have to intervene. Which is not really possible in criminal law as far as I am aware.


right. he's trying to use the amicus process to simulate an intervenor.

Posted by: ace at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (PbpT7)

39 Judge Leroy Jenkins Sullivan needs a vacation at Club Gitmo.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (6taT0)

40

Holy fucking shit, the cocksucking judge REFERENCES the judge in the Roger Stone case!!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (0ZqdL)

41 I set out my reasons below why my not quite a WAG is that Sullivan is going to deny the motion to dismiss.

Sullivan thinks (or least claims to think) that Flynn is a no shit traitor to this country. There's no way in hell he's going to do what is demanded of him by local rules and all available precedent and issue the three sentence order granting the motion to dismiss.

Again, I hope, desperately, that I am completely wrong about this.

I fear I will not be.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (GbPPJ)

42 I sometimes fall into to the trap of thinking that I
am too cynical. Then I find that somehow, contrary to what I thought
was (meta)physically possible, I am not nearly cynical enough.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) a

Preach it brother!

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (2ygtH)

43
Uhh, wouldn't this apply to every single case where the DOJ recommends dismissal?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (SFAhl)

44 >>>We are in a war. Wake up. Act accordingly. They have no morals, no scruples. They are dishonest in their advocacy of a new world order not based on individual rights but on the rule of them.
Posted by: ia

No if we are just nice to the liberals on Twitter things will get better!

Posted by: The Cucked-Out, Tucked-Under Staffs of the National Review and DC Examiner at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (PbpT7)

45 At this point, it must be pointed out that ORANGEMANBAD, while brief, does not constitute A brief.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (KnJdm)

46 I wonder if Sidney Powell will have a comment about this?

Posted by: Norman Spiny at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (NSEzS)

47

Judge Emitt Swill CITES fake judge amy jackson, the activist "judge" who railroaded Roger Stone!

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (0ZqdL)

48 39
>>>And amici cannot argue. Schiff would have to intervene.
Which is not really possible in criminal law as far as I am aware.


Huh. I did not realize Don Ameche played such a significant role in our judicial system, especially since he's, you know, dead.

Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (T6t7i)

49 I don't get the long game here. Everyone knows Flynn was setup in a most disgusting way. He's not going to jail. it's like the Deep State death dance, ala: Priss, from "Bladerunner".

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (7Fj9P)

50 I can't believe you fell for the banana in the republic!

Posted by: Axel Foley Maybe at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (uhPTO)

51 13 I am pretty sure that it is SOP for a judge to offer a case to whomever he thinks will file charges when the prosecution has dropped said charges.

Happens all the time I would guess.

Yep. Nothing to see here.
**************

I'm hoping you forgot to put on the /sarc tag.

Judges totally lack the authority to do what you suggest "happens all the time."

Besides, Schiff has no authority to "file charges" against ANYONE.

Posted by: Noam Sayen at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (pDYQ0)

52 There is a way to deal with this you know......



File a Pelican Brief?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (yQpMk)

53 So an amicus has standing to serve as prosecutor? Who knew?

Of course, one of the many distortions of what we once recognized as the Rule of Law is that Judge Sullivan actually can stage this theatrical production and it will be binding until an appeals court expedites the proceeding and reverses the insanity.

You know what needs to be revisited totally? The federal court system and perhaps the entire federal system. The constitution, to the degree it even is relevant in the current era, only requires a Supreme Court. These inferior federal courts are permitted but not required. Three cheers to the first state supreme court that refuses to acknowledge a lower federal court decision, even one I support.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (puu6v)

54 BP status: Elevated

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (ptqGC)

55 Another way to look at it is that Sullivan is inadvertently creating "meat on the table" moment. Schiff has nothing, Project Democracy has nothing, and they won't be able to bring anything substantive to the table on this. If Sullivan rules against the DOJ without any compelling evidence produced by Schiff et al., he's going to make a reversal a very easy call

Posted by: Matthew Thullen at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (68d2t)

56 I think the revolutionary war started over less.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (dNzKv)

57
Sullivan is corrupt as they come.


As full of shit as the ground in front of the pig trough, where they shit while they eat.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (sy5kK)

58 Any chance this could become an opportunity for the Supreme Court to do some serious bitch-slapping of the out of line lower courts?

Posted by: davidt at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (l3+k2)

59 42
I set out my reasons below why my not quite a WAG is that Sullivan is going to deny the motion to dismiss.



Sullivan thinks (or least claims to think) that Flynn is a no shit
traitor to this country. There's no way in hell he's going to do what
is demanded of him by local rules and all available precedent and issue
the three sentence order granting the motion to dismiss.



Again, I hope, desperately, that I am completely wrong about this.



I fear I will not be.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (GbPPJ)

As left is fond of pointing out, in re Treason, you must have war enemies in an actual (probably declared) war, to be charge with Treason. That dog ain't gonna hunt.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (KnJdm)

60

He's way off the reservation in allowing amici to argue in a criminal case. He's ripe for a mandamus.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (SFOr6)

61 There are swamp gators down here who are hungry..

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (ptqGC)

62 The rule of law has suffered badly under the limpdick leadership of John Roberts.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (y7DUB)

63 Judge Emmett G. "Fort Sumter" Sullivan.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (vDlBn)

64 >>>55 BP status: Elevated


yup.

Posted by: ace at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (PbpT7)

65

Another way to look at it is that Sullivan is inadvertently creating "meat on the table" moment.
Posted by: Matthew Thullen


Dood.

He's a bad actor.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (0ZqdL)

66 The hive mind of Leftists sure cranked out that Barr did it for political reasons real fast, lead by the MSM.

Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (ZCEU2)

67 Can we explore how judge Sullivan was assigned to this case?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (dNzKv)

68 Geez... I gotta take a break. I'll be huddled under my blankie watching something mindless on TV.

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (dUJdY)

69 No if we are just nice to the liberals on Twitter things will get better!
=====================
And have comity in the Senate!

Posted by: Repukes Standing Around the Bar at Chevy Chase Golf and Tennis at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (7Fj9P)

70 Huh. I did not realize Don Ameche played such a significant role in our judicial system, especially since he's, you know, dead.
Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:17 PM (T6t7i)
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Well, he *did* invent the telephone. . .

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (4o2K3)

71 *waves to the Empress*

Purchased tonight's winning Mega Millions ticket. What's on your shopping list?

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (6taT0)

72 This is what the Supreme Court is for. Step up motherfuckers.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (2DOZq)

73
I set out my reasons below why my not quite a WAG is that Sullivan is going to deny the motion to dismiss.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around

=======

This is exactly what lefty commenters have been fantasizing about. I mean, it was a *fantasy* for them, and it seems to be coming true?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (SFAhl)

74 And have comity in the Senate!
Posted by: Repukes Standing Around the Bar at Chevy Chase Golf and Tennis at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (7Fj9P)
------
Tragedy tomorrow.
Comity tonight!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (4o2K3)

75 yup.



I don't mind saying that these people deserve everything they'll be getting.



Posted by: ace at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (PbpT7)


Can you put up a fantasy thread of what these shit weasels will be getting? I'm willing to go first.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (ptqGC)

76 Oh and like Schiffty is a shining example of someone you can trust.

Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (ZCEU2)

77 Code of Conduct for United States Judges

Federal judges must abide by the Code of Conduct for United States Judges, a set of ethical principles and guidelines adopted by the Judicial Conference of the United States. The Code of Conduct provides guidance for judges on issues of judicial integrity and independence, judicial diligence and impartiality, permissible extra-judicial activities, and the avoidance of impropriety or even its appearance.

Judges may not hear cases in which they have either personal knowledge of the disputed facts, a personal bias concerning a party to the case, earlier involvement in the case as a lawyer, or a financial interest in any party or subject matter of the case.


That's from the uscourts.gov website.

The thing is, there are no enforcement powers to the Code.

Impeachment or bust, I guess.

Posted by: GnuBreed at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (Z4rgH)

78 So, what I have learned today is that a "friend of the court" is like those "Friends of Angelo" who got payoffs in the form of sweetheart deals on jumbo-sized phony mortgages from Countrywide.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (49vFo)

79 35
I look forward to hearing from Sidney Powell.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:15 PM (SFAhl)

She's on Lou Dobbs right now. Just came on.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (cF8AT)

80 >>I set out my reasons below why my not quite a WAG is that Sullivan is going to deny the motion to dismiss.


I set out my reply.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (ZLI7S)

81 Sendero Luminoso in Peru knew how to handle judges who abused their "power".

For commies, they at least got that part right.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (Z+IKu)

82 This too is the story of Obama.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (vDlBn)

83 68
Can we explore how judge Sullivan was assigned to this case?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (dNzKv)

Recusal of Contreras, the judge who was likely (or was it confirmed?) THE FISA judge on the first Page FISA court order authorizing surveillance.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (KnJdm)

84 53 There is a way to deal with this you know......



File a Pelican Brief?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (yQpMk)


to be fair, a 1991 Julia Roberts was pretty hot............

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (sy5kK)

85 Unless this is a rerun of Dobbs' show earlier. I can never tell what FBN is doing.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (cF8AT)

86 I've been thinking for monthe, ever since Sullivan went on that unprovoked and completely outrageous tirade slandering Gen Flynn for "TREASON!!!!!!!". that dirtbag Friend of Holder Sullivan gets all his "news" and "information" from Racheal Maddow.

I'm convinced of it now. Damn dirty lunatic!

Posted by: Eleanor, What the Cat Dragged In at May 12, 2020 07:22 PM (QU+qf)

87 This has been a real "Hooooo- leeeee- sheee-it" week. And it is only Tuesday. But we don't have time to cover it, what with the virus and all.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:22 PM (dNzKv)

88 I look forward to hearing from Sidney Powell.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:15 PM (SFAhl)



She's on Lou Dobbs right now. Just came on.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (cF8AT)


She's a fierce warrior queen. LOVE her.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:22 PM (ptqGC)

89 Can the senate impeach Sullivan?

If they can and I'm PDT, I'm on the phone ordering the Senate to do it immediately, or they can show up in the OO for daily horsewhipping.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 12, 2020 07:22 PM (L2ZTs)

90 This is exactly what lefty commenters have been fantasizing about. I mean, it was a *fantasy* for them, and it seems to be coming true?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:20 PM (SFAhl)
++++++++++++++++
If you're on the Left, your fantasies are made realities by the profoundly corrupt edifice of theft, fraud, abuse and murder that calls itself a republican government.

If you're not on the Left, your expectations of justice or - unlikely as it ever way - honor will be dashed time and again.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:22 PM (49vFo)

91 60 As left is fond of pointing out, in re Treason, you must have war enemies in an actual (probably declared) war, to be charge with Treason. That dog ain't gonna hunt.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (KnJdm)

=========

The American people are guilty of treason for electing Donald Trump president of the United States.

They must be punished.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (LvTSG)

92 One of the reasons Sullivan hasn't budged in two years is because he has cover. Chief Justice Roberts has the power to replace any District Court judge who decides to go renegade, but he hasn't said a peep, starting with the Hawaiian judge. All roads lead to the corrupt CJ.

Posted by: artemis at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (AwPyG)

93 I thought about a sarc tag for #13. But I didn't want to insult anyone's intelligence.

I forgot we are all morons here.

My bad.

Posted by: Just Lily at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (xzjZc)

94 68 Can we explore how judge Sullivan was assigned to this case?


Also how he got Blumenthal's suit against Trump, which he refused to dismiss and the appeals court had to smack him down.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (oVJmc)

95 Brit Hume on Martha's show. He says he's not surprised about Judge Sullivan.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (ptqGC)

96 it is time for Flynn to simply not participate. Allow Sullivan to make his rulings, and beg the executive branch to enforce. This is not a legitimate court.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (svbBD)

97 Let the masks fall! FBI? Corrupt. DOJ (pre Barr): Corrupt. Federal Judiciary: Corrupt. It's a fucking trifecta of sleeze.

BURN IT DOWN!

Posted by: eastofsuez at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (U2zca)

98 He's fallen a long way since The Pirates of Penzance.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM (yQpMk)

99 I guess Obama's obstruction of justice play worked.

Posted by: x at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (nFwvY)

100
Do you think even Judge Sullivan will seriously entertain any briefing Schiff produces? Could there be another reason why he's doing this?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (SFAhl)

101 I for one would love Adam Schiff to come testify or file briefs. Please. Grenell has him by the short hairs - his sworn testimony on this overall Russia/Trump collusion mess does not match his public pronouncements. In short, Schiff lied.
Let's see him lie on court. Please.

Posted by: Hoi Polloi at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (d/0JI)

102 So I guess I will just remain lost as I read the swirls of lawyerese . (Forgive the awful metaphor).

Anywho, it seems that the judge is refusing to accept the prosecutors' decision to drop charges. He doesn't have the excuse of not knowing all the shady dealings of the FBI in this case_ he's the judge.

I heard he used to be a good judge (heard him speak at my SIL's law school graduation). But TD S has been known to destroy many a mind.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (9hauA)

103 Can we explore how judge Sullivan was assigned to this case?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy




Well, when two deep state types love each other very much, they bone each other in the ass and soon, out pops a leftist judge.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (2ygtH)

104 It's gator mating season down here. They're particularly bad tempered and aggressive right now.

Just sayin'.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (ptqGC)

105
Where did the corrupt judge specifically name shiff?

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (0ZqdL)

106 This must be a replay of his earlier show. No mention of Judge Sullivan so far.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)

107 Wait, this is NOT a lawsuit. Its a criminal proceeding.

So, without a Prosecutor, as it is NOT a Lawsuit, how can it go forward?

So now, third parties can somehow SEND YOU TO PRISON?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (NgKpN)

108
Sullivan somehow thinks that when complete lawlessness takes over the country, partially because of his lawless actions in this case, that the CW2.0 participants will somehow not remember this.

Because they won't.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (sy5kK)

109 This is literally the dumbest fucking thing I have ever heard.

The prosecution is withdrawing the case because, on order of the judge, they produced exculpatory evidence that exonerated General Flynn. The DOJ, once having produced that evidence, at the specific order of the court, cannot knowingly continue with the prosecution. They are required to withdraw it, given it is obvious they are trying to convict an innocent man.

The judge seems to be inviting other, non prosecutorial parties, to take up the case. I'm not even sure how that works.

In theory the plea deal was entered into to avoid more serious charges and a lengthy and expensive trial. The judge should void the deal completely, toss out the guilty plea, and allow the DOJ to file new charges and proceed to trial. If the DOJ declines to file new charges, then that's that.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (8Xxh3)

110 Well, when two deep state types love each other very much, they bone each other in the ass and soon, out pops a leftist judge.


Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 12, 2020 07:24 PM (2ygtH)

Page and Strzok's love child?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (KnJdm)

111 Princess Sullivan, "Help us High Lord Executioner Schiff, you're our only hope!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (6taT0)

112 "61

He's way off the reservation in allowing amici to argue in a criminal case. He's ripe for a mandamus."

It's worse than that. I don't have the cite off the top of my head, but prosecutions by private persons have been found explicitly unconstitutional and that's not ancient history. Some states--I know Kentucky was one--until relatively recently allowed private individuals, usually family members of a victim, to hire an attorney to take a case to the Grand Jury for indictment and then to trial as a prosecutor.

Sullivan probably is about to resign and run as a #Resistance candidate for some office. It also is possible he has at least friends in D.C. caught up in this judicial corruption scandal.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (puu6v)

113 I hope Flynn is eventually able to sue like the fucking wind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (ptqGC)

114 Mollie was on FIRE tonight on the panel, trashing the media and all their pathetic, grifting works vis a vis Flynn. Meanwhile, Jeff Mason (the putz who got pantsed by Kayleigh McEnany) sat there with a doofy, s***eating grin while she berated him by extension. I really think Mollie should invest in a leather suit and whip.

Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (T6t7i)

115 https://bit.ly/2WoYrAe
********
Techno Fog on Twitter: "Flynn Update - Looks like Judge Sullivan will allow for public comment. Judge Sullivan a minute order anticipating that "individuals and organizations" will seek leave to file briefs "for the benefit of the Court." A briefing scheduling order will follow

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (Lrula)

116 Page and Strzok's love child?

Camera Hogg

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (6taT0)

117

Hawaiian Judge: Sounds like Sullivan is one of us

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (79U7Q)

118 You know, I used to have trouble understanding about judges getting assassinated by hit squads in South America.

Posted by: vivi at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (11H2y)

119 Oh?

Is there some limit on the number of amicus briefs?

Seems he's not limiting it to lawyers licensed in his court, is he?

Although it's an exercise in futility-- he's made his decision, he doesn't care how many briefs he gets.
He's just casting about for any fig leaf to cover his abomination.

I guess I should also note: Scheduling orders are for trials, aren't they?

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (QLUrq)

120 The prosecution is withdrawing the case because, on order of the judge, they produced exculpatory evidence that exonerated


US Local Family Court called to laugh at your disbelief.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (vDlBn)

121 Because they won't.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (sy5kK)

Don't worry. I wrote it down.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (2DOZq)

122 Can someone please explain this in English to a non-lawyer?

From the beginning. It seemed like we jumped in in the middle here.
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (9hauA)


I'll start at the beginning of the end - appropriate disclaimer, I have never done anything Federal criminal law and I'm going off memory for some of this so go lick that salt lick over there for what I am typing.

The baby steps version:

The prosecutor files criminal charges. Those charges then go before a judge. It is the judge who is in charge of the management of the case, not the prosecutor. Since a guilty plea was entered, that means there is no fact finding part of the case (juries find facts, judges apply the law), so all that is left is for the judge to apply the law.

The rules and precedent permit the withdrawal of a guilty plea. However, such a withdrawal is constrained to certain circumstances in order to streamline the judicial process. You can't just say I'm withdrawing that plea and it's withdrawn. The judge has to approve it. What Powell has been fighting with Sullivan about is that Sullivan refuses to grant that withdrawal.

Somewhat similar is that the DOJ cannot just walk into a courtroom and say "our bad" and drop the case. The judge must approve the motion to dismiss the case. Now, by rule and precedent, the judge has basically no discretion there. While it is the judge's case to manage, it is the DOJ who presents the prosecution. When the DOJ says yeah, there's nothing to prosecute, the judge is required to sign an order saying motion granted.

Sullivan has not done that. Not only that, he is now doing something that I had no idea was permissible in criminal cases and that is asking for amicus (friend of the court) briefs as to why that shouldn't be allowed. At least that's what it looks like.

Maybe this is permissible but I've never heard of it but, again, not even close to my area of expertise.

An intervenor is a person or entity that is not a party to a case but who has an interest in the case and this is permitted to intervene (join in) the case as a party. That is not permissible in criminal cases. We do not have private Federal criminal prosecutions.

So, the tl;dr is that Sullivan is just making shit up here and is refusing to grant the motion to dismiss to be an asshole to Flynn and to tell Barr to kiss his ass.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (GbPPJ)

123 There is no longer a case or controversy. Judge Sullivan must dismiss. This order is unprecedented and an abuse of his discretion, let alone in violation of the Federal Rules of Criminal Procedure.

This is gonna be awesome! Cannot wait to see what Sydney is gonna do with this.

Posted by: Czech Chick at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (haWye)

124 If the left knows anything, they know treason. Hell, they sprinkle it on their kids cereal.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (XhWtx)

125 Now I am NOT going to use the term affirmative action to describe judge sullivan.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (85Gof)

126 I'm sorry, but I'm missing a crucial part. What did Flynn do that was, by definition, treasonous??

Posted by: Lady in Black at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (O+I8R)

127 Page and Strzok's love child?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:25 PM (KnJdm)
+++++++++++++
Not possible.

A child of hate, maybe. But not one of love. That relationship strikes me as one of mutual contempt and self-loathing. Like every other piece of deep state intercourse - sexual or otherwise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (49vFo)

128 115 Mollie was on FIRE tonight on the panel, trashing the media and all their pathetic, grifting works vis a vis Flynn. Meanwhile, Jeff Mason (the putz who got pantsed by Kayleigh McEnany) sat there with a doofy, s***eating grin while she berated him by extension. I really think Mollie should invest in a leather suit and whip.
Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:26 PM (T6t7i)


Mollie, Margot Cleveland and Sean Davis are outstanding and have been from day one on this.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (s2VJv)

129
I suspect the next shoe to drop is a spectacular stunt by Van Grock.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (0ZqdL)

130 Sullivan thinks (or least claims to think) that Flynn is a no shit
traitor to this country. There's no way in hell he's going to do what
is demanded of him by local rules and all available precedent and issue
the three sentence order granting the motion to dismiss.


Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (GbPPJ)

He can think what he likes. Where is the evidence He can just act based on what he thinks". I mean, I guess he can, but that's not how it's supposed to work.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (9hauA)

131 If this judge railroads Flynn - again - I think you're going to see violence in the streets. People are getting sick of the two-tiered system, and I worry people are going to start taking it out on our oppressors.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (AFSld)

132 #3 Gerard, that was my laugh of the day!!!

Posted by: Beverly at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (SBMUk)

133 I think we need to send the Empress to visit Judge Sullivan with her hand puppets to explain law to the idiot.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (6taT0)

134 OK, so in the last couple of months.

Judges now making up law as they go along (this guy and Texass judge).

Clearly Unconstitutional orders from Governors to Mayors, left and right.

We find out MORE about the Treasonous plot to over ride our Democracy and the voters in a Presidential election.

Oh, and they have released thousands and thousands of Felons nationwide, protecting the Prisoners vice the Public.

Is there any vestige of the Constitution left?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (NgKpN)

135 Did Flynn fuck this guys wife or something? Why in the hell is our corrupt ass government out to get Flynn so damned much?

Who did he piss off? Or on?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (9oAtN)

136 Powell should file a writ of mandamus with the appellate court immediately. Get the prosecutors to join it, maybe.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (ja/kn)

137 Barry's will be done. That's what the audio release was about - pressure the judge..........who surely knows that Epstein didn't kill himself.

Posted by: East Bay Jay at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (Lg/Uq)

138 Let me try again.

He can think what he likes. Where is the evidence? He can't just act based on what he "thinks". I mean, I guess he can, but that's not how it's supposed to work.
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (9hauA)

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (9hauA)

139 Now I am NOT going to use the term affirmative action to describe judge sullivan.


Obama's Bought and Paid For Judiciary still works.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (vDlBn)

140 136 Did Flynn fuck this guys wife or something? Why in the hell is our corrupt ass government out to get Flynn so damned much?

Who did he piss off? Or on?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (9oAtN)

========

No, he REFUSED to fuck Sullivan's wife.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (LvTSG)

141 Okay. So now we can have private parties take over where public prosecutors fail to go. This would be both entertaining and Armageddonesque. Reminds me of hiring thief-takers in merry old England.

This is how you lose faith in, well, just about everything.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (e1mEI)

142 It's difficult to read anything into this. The judge basically said he anticipates that outside parties are going to want to submit amicus curiae briefs. Well, duh, of course they are. The lawyers for the swamp have been writing since the DOJ announced the decision to drop the case.

There is no way to know what the judge will do with the briefs once they are submitted. He may just look at them and decide to throw them in the trash. It should be also be noted that toilet paper is in short supply, so the paper can always be put to good use.

Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (LoFQJ)

143 Is there some limit on the number of amicus briefs?
As noted in Mollie's 'holy shit' tweet, how about 2,000 former DOJ employees each joining in the "prosecution"?

[Ha, ha. Pale Moon browser's Dictionary suggests 'Islamic' as the correction for 'amicus'!]

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (TQ/zJ)

144 >>>I really think Mollie should invest in a leather suit and whip.


Um, I'm gonna need a moment.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (AFSld)

145 But it was fine when Comey cleared Her Hagness because reasons.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (uEbPt)

146 Recusal is pretty much mandatory at this point.

Is that some fancy Latin legal word for shot from a cannon?

Posted by: t-bird at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (KfC1e)

147 The roller coaster ride continues. Last week was fun though.
Maybe tomorrow we'll be on top of the world again.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (r+sAi)

148 He's way off the reservation in allowing amici to argue in a criminal case. He's ripe for a mandamus."

It's worse than that. I don't have the cite off the top of my head, but prosecutions by private persons have been found explicitly unconstitutional and that's not ancient history. Some states--I know Kentucky was one--until relatively recently allowed private individuals, usually family members of a victim, to hire an attorney to take a case to the Grand Jury for indictment and then to trial as a prosecutor.

Sullivan probably is about to resign and run as a #Resistance candidate for some office. It also is possible he has at least friends in D.C. caught up in this judicial corruption scandal.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12

Can Powell's team mandamus a minute order?
This is such bizarro world, I really have no idea.

It seems cruel in the extreme to continue to subject Flynn to the legal fees and threat of incarceration when the DOJ has properly and lawfully dropped the case.

What the hell kind of precedent is this minute order setting?!?!

Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (Ed8Zd)

149 #144 Pardon me; Margot's "holy shit" tweet.

Posted by: andycanuck at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (TQ/zJ)

150 Calvinball. Catch the Fever!

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (uEbPt)

151 So to AtC or other Moron lawyers, I have a serious question. Is this kind of wild disregard for precedent and traditional court rules and Sullivan's obvious hard-on for Flynn remotely actionable? Could he be impeached for it?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (49vFo)

152 It is possible that the judge is being very clever here. The progressives screamed when this got dropped - he's giving them a chance to make their best case against dropping the charges, legally, in court.

Naturally, considering the exculpatory materiel produced by the DOJ, whatever the progressives say is going to be hot garbage. The judge will rule that their friend of the court brief is hot garbage, and dismiss.

This actually helps Barr and Flynn. The progressives will have a hard time arguing this was just Barr's decision - they had their shot. it also forces them to confront the exculpatory evidence - try to explain it away. They can't and won't. Also because this is a brief to the court, they can't just lie and make up shit like they normally do. If they do the judge is able to point by point eviscerate their arguments. If they don;t file, it looks even worse for them.

So, for the progressives, this is likely a no win situation.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (8Xxh3)

153
It's difficult to read anything into this. The judge basically said he anticipates that outside parties are going to want to submit amicus curiae briefs. Well, duh, of course they are. The lawyers for the swamp have been writing since the DOJ announced the decision to drop the case.

There is no way to know what the judge will do with the briefs once they are submitted. He may just look at them and decide to throw them in the trash. It should be also be noted that toilet paper is in short supply, so the paper can always be put to good use.

Posted by: Patrick Jennings



LOL
You sound like Gabriel Cockscuker Malor.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (0ZqdL)

154 Lower your blood pressure and go read the comments on Barry Soetoro Hussein Obama's Mothers Day tweet.

The normals' comments are glorious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

155 Judge Sullivan might as well advertise on Vox asking for people who got turned into newts by Flynn.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (6taT0)

156 62 There are swamp gators down here who are hungry..

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (ptqGC)


And there's a bridge in Louisiana.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (5NHwY)

157 In 2018 an estimated 500,000 bikers came to Washington DC for Rolling Thunder to commemorate MIA/POWs.
The media barely covered that event. I think the idea of that many patriots gathering in DC scared the beejeesus out of them. The potential was there for more than talk.

I don't think it would take too much organization for a quarter million pickups loaded with tar, feathers, and rails to coordinate with other ticked off folks to converge on D.C. In a relatively short time.

Posted by: waepnedmann at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (/idfZ)

158 PizzaGate is real!


Always was. Always was.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (vDlBn)

159 Holy fucking shit, the cocksucking judge REFERENCES the judge in the Roger Stone case!!!

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:16 PM (0ZqdL)


Corrupt POSs of a feather flock together

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (79U7Q)

160 I love showing the rest of the world how to really to slide into being a banana republic. USA bitches!

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (xceTB)

161

I guess I should also note: Scheduling orders are for trials, aren't they?
Posted by: RoyalOil


Nope. They just say what's going to happen next, and when. They might involve setting a trial date, but not always (or even frequently in federal civil practice)

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (SFOr6)

162
Who took my America away when I wasn't looking and replaced it with -

this near medieval, Soviet-style, peasants and commissars shit state?


Just give it back and I won't even press charges.


Oh, but you gotta take Judge Sullivan with you.

You just know there's a Judge Sullivan shaped hole in some gimp box somewhere.

Posted by: naturalfake at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (z0XD8)

163 I spoke to my mother who lives on Virginia's eastern shore. Apparently, the Town of Chincoteague will open to 25% of capacity the hotels and rentals on the island and raise that percentage weekly to 100% bt Memorial day. Chincoteague is nothing without the summer. She also expects to get her haircut Tuesday.

Posted by: Jamaica NYC at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (4vNgL)

164 No, he REFUSED to fuck Sullivan's wife.
======================
You win.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (7Fj9P)

165 Not surprised that Judge Sullivan is corrupt. He tipped his hand with the treason bullshit.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Anyone want to live in a cardboard box? at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (SchxB)

166 >>>Naturally, considering the exculpatory materiel produced by the DOJ, whatever the progressives say is going to be hot garbage. The judge will rule that their friend of the court brief is hot garbage, and dismiss.


You're giving this assclown WAY too much credit.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (AFSld)

167 132 If this judge railroads Flynn - again - I think you're going to see violence in the streets. People are getting sick of the two-tiered system, and I worry people are going to start taking it out on our oppressors.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (AFSld)


Flynn? Not so much.

The next Shelly Luther? Strong possibility.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (s2VJv)

168 I know I am not a Twitter lawyer, but I'm pretty sure a federal judge trying to freeze out the DOJ and AG is a constitutional crisis.

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (0HpOW)

169 I love how Mollie is able to arch one eyebrow at whatever cucks Baier has on his panel.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (ptqGC)

170 My argument above is the only way the judge can avoid being fully legal - invite progressives to file a brief, then rip it to shreds.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (8Xxh3)

171 So Flynn's torture will continue.

It's high time some Coup Perps get indicted and necks get stretched.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (xXJfx)

172 Mollie, Margot Cleveland and Sean Davis are outstanding and have been from day one on this.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (s2VJv)
++++++++++++++++
They sure are. This is the first time I have seen Cleveland curse (even if she self-censored it). I admit to not reading ever word of hers in intimate detail, but she certainly doesn't make a habit out of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (49vFo)

173 Breaking: Judge Sullivan Named Honorary Hawaiian

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (uEbPt)

174 So, the tl;dr is that Sullivan is just making shit up here and is refusing to grant the motion to dismiss to be an asshole to Flynn and to tell Barr to kiss his ass.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (GbPPJ)

Thank you, Empress!

The whole thing reeks.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:33 PM (9hauA)

175 62 There are swamp gators down here who are hungry..
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 07:19 PM (ptqGC)

Polk Salad Annie, the gator's got your judgeey.

Chomp.

Chomp chomp.

https://www.youtube. com/watch?v=fRF24LY5pvw

(remove space after dot)

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:33 PM (sy5kK)

176 >>>The next Shelly Luther? Strong possibility.



Also yes.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:33 PM (AFSld)

177 I'm sorry, but I'm missing a crucial part. What did Flynn do that was, by definition, treasonous??
Posted by: Lady in Black at May 12, 2020 07:27 PM (O+I8R)


I don't remember the exact wording but, IIRC, and I might not due to the rage, Sullivan all but called Flynn a Russian asset in open court.

Let me try again.

He can think what he likes. Where is the evidence? He can't just act based on what he "thinks". I mean, I guess he can, but that's not how it's supposed to work.
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:28 PM (9hauA)
Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (9hauA)



The old joke goes what's the difference between a Federal judge and God? God doesn't think he's a Federal judge.

Yeah, that's not actually a joke. Judges, particularly Federal judges, can do basically any damn thing that they want. The only recourse for a party is an appeal.

Judges have absolute immunity for anything they do on the bench that is not a result of, say, bribery. There are really no constraints on Federal district court judges other than oh noes I might get yelled at by a higher court.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:33 PM (GbPPJ)

178 "Sullivan sees that Flynn and the DOJ both agree that no crime has been committed here, and, for the sake of due diligence, is seeking out a third party who disagrees to give the court a dissenting view."


This was my first hopeful take - actually, more like Sullivan watches CNN and believes that the masses are skeptical and wants to help restore faith in the law by getting, and then dismissing, contrary views.

But... this is too unusual and bizarre. I mean, what's he going to do? Allow Adam Schiff motion and Nadless Nadler to "prosecute" Flynn?

Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 07:33 PM (Ed8Zd)

179 They sure are. This is the first time I have seen Cleveland curse (even if she self-censored it).
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (49vFo)

That's exactly what I thought. If she's swearing...

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (9hauA)

180 Lindsay Graham is PLANNING to hold HEARINGS for Obamagate...




( but refuses to call Obama to testify....)

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (vDlBn)

181 Cant type it but you know what should happen.

Without a national divorce now, it will be a hot war this winter.

Posted by: Astro is Asshoe at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (a48q1)

182 134
I think we need to send the Empress to visit Judge Sullivan with her hand puppets to explain law to the idiot.


Posted by: Anna Puma


They're unavailable. They're being used for establishing where Joe Biden touched people.

Posted by: pep at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (T6t7i)

183 And has there ever been a criminal trial that allowed amicus briefs?

Think about that, a murder trial in Peoria and the judge asks the city council if they'd like to file an amicus brief.

His jurisdiction is limited to the parties and controversy before him--he's lying by suggesting other parties may have an interest in the outcome of the case

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (QLUrq)

184 175 Breaking: Judge Sullivan Named Honorary Hawaiian
Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:32 PM (uEbPt)

Obvious thread winner.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (sy5kK)

185 159
In 2018 an estimated 500,000 bikers came to Washington DC for Rolling Thunder to commemorate MIA/POWs.

The media barely covered that event. I think the idea of that many
patriots gathering in DC scared the beejeesus out of them. The
potential was there for more than talk.



I don't think it would take too much organization for a quarter
million pickups loaded with tar, feathers, and rails to coordinate with
other ticked off folks to converge on D.C. In a relatively short time.



Posted by: waepnedmann at May 12, 2020 07:31 PM (/idfZ)

Protest signs, in the iconic shape of an AR15. Chainsaw bayonet pennants optional.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (KnJdm)

186

Not binding, but by way of example:

As a private party, Recio "has no standing to institute federal criminal prosecution and no power to enforce a criminal statute." Gill v. Texas, 153 F. App'x 261, 263 (5th Cir. 2005) (citing Linda R.S. v. Richard D., 410 U.S. 614, 619, 93 S. Ct. 1146, 35 L. Ed. 2d 536 (1973)); see Hassell v. United States, 203 F.R.D. 241, 244 (N.D. Tex. 1999) ("Criminal statutes can neither be enforced by civil action nor by private parties."). Simply stated, no constitutional right exists to have someone criminally prosecuted. Florance, 500 F. Supp. 2d at 635 (citing Oliver v. Collins, 914 F.2d 56, 60 (5th Cir. 1990)). Accordingly, to the extent Recio asks the Court to "indict" Adams, the District Court should dismiss such claim for relief.

Recio v. Vasques, No. 5:18-CV-264-BQ, 2019 U.S. Dist. LEXIS 229159, at *20 (N.D. Tex. Sep. 26, 2019)

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (SFOr6)

187 Well, I guess it's obvious Judge Sullivan gets his news from Rachel Maddow.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (wiXsO)

188
Why the fuck does the court need a dissenting view??

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:34 PM (0ZqdL)

189 We always say what a bullet we dodged avoiding hillary, could you imagine being Flynn or Trump if that happened? Its treacherous as it is.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (r+sAi)

190 Sullivan's only power against Flynn's interest at this point is to deny both the prosecution motion to dismiss and Flynn's motion to reverse his plea. That would make his name in American jurisprudence history as arguably the worst judge ever, but he could do it. Flynn would either have his conviction overturned in appeal or be pardoned by Trump (depending on timing), so Sullivan accomplishes nothing really. The appellate court should understand this and step in sooner rather than later.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (ja/kn)

191 From the Hawaiian Judge website:

Judicial Code of Conduct: LOLGF.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (dNzKv)

192 I nominate comment 182 for removal.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (w7KSn)

193 Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 07:29 PM (LoFQJ)

Hash status: never seen before

Your search "Patrick Jennings" returned no documents

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (uEbPt)

194

There is but one path.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (0ZqdL)

195 Shipwreckedcrew's Red State article TL/DR:

Sullivan did not properly conduct the sentencing hearing with Flynn, and said as much, in saying he wasn't sure about the "materiality"* of the crime Flynn was pleading guilty to.

Shipwreckedcrew speculates that DOJ knows this was an error on Sullivan's part, but has refrained from addressing it so far because Sullivan is so volatile.

In re, the author notes that Sullivan's "treason" insult and non-apology apology, and digression into his dissatisfaction with *Petraeus's sentence, in his case*, makes him regard Sullivan with less than full deference (i.e. Sullivan's a hot-head and loose cannon).

Just FYI.

* basically, the crime has to have some impact in influencing or impeding an investigation to be "material", and this element of the crime must be documented, not just asserted

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (El6T/)

196 it's not like he actually learned anything in law school. that's not how AA works.

Posted by: x at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (nFwvY)

197 It's just make up shit as you need to for the left.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (xfb67)

198 Sidney Powell Retweeted

@JennaEllisEsq 16 minutes ago

#Flynn Facts:

Malicious prosecution by Obama Admin/ FBI
Concealed Brady material
Coerced guilty plea
Ineffective assistance of counsel
Independent review by AG/AUSA
Prosecution motion to dismiss

This is a TRIAL court. Literally no reason for Amici except political.

Sidney Powell Retweeted

@JennaEllisEsq 52 minutes ago

There is no legitimate legal reason for this.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (cF8AT)

199
...
This was my first hopeful take - actually, more like Sullivan watches CNN and believes that the masses are skeptical and wants to help restore faith in the law by getting, and then dismissing, contrary views.
...
Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 07:33 PM (Ed8Zd)
++++++++++++++++++
I *might* be able to be talked into that position but for one thing: Sullivan has never - not one, not even for a moment - showed any inkling objectivity or honest. He has been corrupt and dishonest and dishonorable from day 0. As a result, I reject this premise.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (49vFo)

200
Wait, what does the court have any say at all if the charges have been dropped and there is no case to try?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (s2VJv)

201 >>You're giving this assclown WAY too much credit.

But ultimately it doesn't matter. Sullivan has no win here if he is trying to be part of the resistance to earn street cred.

This is an easy overturn and even if it weren't Trump will obviously pardon Flynn.

There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)

202

And has there ever been a criminal trial that allowed amicus briefs?

Think about that, a murder trial in Peoria and the judge asks the city council if they'd like to file an amicus brief.

His jurisdiction is limited to the parties and controversy before him--he's lying by suggesting other parties may have an interest in the outcome of the case
Posted by: RoyalOil


Sure they can participate in briefing, but they cannot PROSECUTE the case.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (SFOr6)

203 >>>And has there ever been a criminal trial that allowed amicus briefs?



So this is totes cool if conservatives judge start doing this now, right? Sullivan can be Patient Zero, and when the Obama traitors come up for trial, they get nailed no matter what the jurors say.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (AFSld)

204 >>>127 I'm sorry, but I'm missing a crucial part. What did Flynn do that was, by definition, treasonous??


He didn't want to do what a district court judge wanted him to do.

A lawyer told me, the biggest tyrants in America are district court judges, because less than 1% of their orders ever get reviewed, and there's a strong institutional bias for upholding their rulings anyway.

These cocksuckers get used to doing whatever they want without fear of contradiction.

Then someone contradicts them and it's time to threaten that INFIDEL with treason.

Posted by: ace at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (PbpT7)

205 SCOTUS just spanked the 9th Circuit for doing something really similar. It was a 9-0 decision.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (xfb67)

206 I am giving the judge a LOT of credit here. But..he has expressed a lot of disdain and disbelief at the prosecution of Flynn on several occasions. He has drug this out a lot longer hen he needed to. I dunno. He could be doing this to protect himself...Evidence this is planned would be a rapid timeline, say a week for Schiff to file, and week to review and dismiss. He might even give the Flynn team a chance to formally respond to the amicus brief.

Just spit balling here. If he wanted to he could just say "deal's a deal" and not allow the DOJ to withdraw the charges, saying it is too late and Flynn must appeal. The sentence Flynn to the minimum and allow for appeal. At that point it is no longer his problem.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (8Xxh3)

207 So, the Affirmative Action dip-shit of a judge required nearly a week to come up with this latest travesty.

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (dearX)

208 File a Pelican Brief?
Posted by: Grump928(C) at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM

Nah, bro. We got this.

Posted by: R. Otter, Esq. at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (rBtIz)

209 Sullivan is working as a campaign manager for Joe Biden. He wants to sentence Flynn and force Trump to pardon him, so that Biden and the Dems can use that as a Campaign Issue in the fall elections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (V2Yro)

210 Fuck lawyers & judges

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (aA3+G)

211 She's on Lou Dobbs right now. Just came on.
Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:21 PM (cF8AT)
~~~~~

Dang, I missed it! What did she say?

Posted by: IrishEi at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (sGotD)

212 150:

"Can Powell's team mandamus a minute order?
This is such bizarro world, I really have no idea."

Any unlawful "final order" is subject to mandamus. So who would respond this isn't a final order? Sullivan? I wouldn't discount it.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (puu6v)

213 Oww , oww (puts hands over ears) It's too loud in here I can't do my job. Oww .

Posted by: billy bag pipes at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (WX+x0)

214 Then don't dismiss it. Withdraw the guilty pleas. Set the fucking thing for trial. Let all of these assholes be cross-examined under oath. Televise it. Have a split screen with random shots of the faces of Obama, Brennan Comey and Clapper as they watch the presentation of their crack witnesses.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (hKi6n)

215 I don't care who the judge gets his news from. He's been involved in the proceedings. He's seen the material.

Of course the LYING MSM will never tell the truth about this. As far as I am concerned, everything out of their mouths /pens is a lie until proven otherwise.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (9hauA)

216 >>>There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.


Which I don't get. Cases are won and lost every single day. A professional doesn't fret about it. (Well, I did when I was a rookie cop, but age got me over it.)

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (AFSld)

217 Story that singer Bryan Adams is about to get himself and his career canceled over some nasty anti-Chinese comments he made recently on Twitter.

I don't really have much empathy for Adams. He's said some really nasty things about PDT, I believe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (L2ZTs)

218 There is no legitimate legal reason for this.
Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (cF8AT)
++++++++++++++++
No, not legal. But there are legitimate* political reasons for it.

* if you're a Leftist power-glutton.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (49vFo)

219

RILEY REED:


I know who you are. One more like the previous two and you are gone forever.


Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (s2VJv)

220 Sullivan is working as a campaign manager for Joe Biden. He wants to sentence Flynn and force Trump to pardon him, so that Biden and the Dems can use that as a Campaign Issue in the fall elections.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (V2Yro)

there was a time I would have called you crazy...There was a time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (85Gof)

221 196
I nominate comment 182 for removal.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (w7KSn)

Seconded.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (KnJdm)

222 Also because this is a brief to the court, they can't just lie and make up shit like they normally do.


Except, they're Democrats and swamp creatures. So, two sets of rules, two sets of law?

Posted by: Hands at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (786Ro)

223 There is but one path.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:35 PM (0ZqdL)


Air Pinochet: Straight up and straight down again

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (79U7Q)

224 Judge Sullivan is watching his chances of making it on the news being interviewed vanishing fast because the DoJ has decided to drop the case.

So he is flouncing and throwing a temper tantrum.

Sullivan is a mean girl in a black robe.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (6taT0)

225 This is the same Judge Sullivan who was so pissed off at the DOJ prosecutors who lied and mishandled the Sen. Stevens prosecution, right?

He must have family being threatened by the Deep State or something. Can't understand the turnaround otherwise.

Posted by: David-2 at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (4easO)

226 So to AtC or other Moron lawyers, I have a serious question. Is this kind of wild disregard for precedent and traditional court rules and Sullivan's obvious hard-on for Flynn remotely actionable? Could he be impeached for it?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (49vFo)


No, it's not actionable.

No, it's not impeachable.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)

227 @211Probably a bidding war, you never stop a bidding war until you extract top dollar.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (xXJfx)

228 Trump
Trump
Trump

Indict
Indict
Indict

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (dNzKv)

229 The left have become the 18th century English

Posted by: REDACTED at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (tQbpU)

230
Alternate post title:


Just Like Amy Jackson Before Him, Judge Smith Makes It Clear: It Is Trump On Trial, Here, Not Flynn

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (0ZqdL)

231 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blumenthal_v._Trump

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (oVJmc)

232 209 SCOTUS just spanked the 9th Circuit for doing something really similar. It was a 9-0 decision.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (xfb67)

=========

If this gets to SCOTUS somehow, it'll be 5-4.

The opinion will be written by Thomas, and it will be erudite and a bit biting.

The dissent will be written by Sotomayor and about how she's really wise because she's latina. There will also be misspellings.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (LvTSG)

233

Sullivan's only power against Flynn's interest at this point is to deny both the prosecution motion to dismiss and Flynn's motion to reverse his plea. That would make his name in American jurisprudence history as arguably the worst judge ever, but he could do it. Flynn would either have his conviction overturned in appeal or be pardoned by Trump (depending on timing), so Sullivan accomplishes nothing really. The appellate court should understand this and step in sooner rather than later.
Posted by: occam's brassiere


Correct. This amicus garbage is sheer idiocy, though.


Wait, what does the court have any say at all if the charges have been dropped and there is no case to try?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton


THe judge signs the orders, the judge says when it's over. Once a case is filed, the judge has complete control over it, subject only to a writ of mandate or prohibition from a higher court.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (SFOr6)

234 >>>SCOTUS just spanked the 9th Circuit for doing something really similar. It was a 9-0 decision.



Hilariously, RBG wrote the opinion, When you lose RBG...

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (AFSld)

235 I think tar feathers might be too good for him.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at May 12, 2020 07:08 PM


Lamp post, piano wire, and scrotum.

Posted by: Bert G at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (OMsf+)

236 The American people are guilty of treason for electing Donald Trump president of the United States.

They must be punished.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:23 PM


This man. He gets it.

Posted by: Your Elite at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (DMUuz)

237 MisHum, I think I'm with you on this one.

What's especially frustrating is that EVERY FCUKING TIME people publicly protest judge's orders, said judges throw a tantrum about "intimidation and disrespect of the judicial branch."

Posted by: qdpsteve at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (L2ZTs)

238 So the judge is now the opposing party.

Posted by: Ostral B Heretic at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (Ofd4o)

239 @JonathanTurley 3 minutes ago

Interesting development just in the Flynn case. Judge Sullivan just issued an order saying "at the appropriate time, the Court will enter an Order governing the submission of any amicus curiae briefs." That certainly does not suggest quick order granting an unopposed motion...

...The Court is faced with an unopposed motion where the Justice Department no longer believes the case can be ethically prosecuted. Judge Sullivan appears incline to bring in third parties to argue against an unopposed motion where the defendant and prosecutors agree...

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (cF8AT)

240 This is just DC telling Trump and allies that they can't win in DC, right?

Because: FU, we run DC.

A banana republic masquerading as a respiblic, if you can keep it!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (bDqIh)

241 Somebody ask Professor Jacobsen at Legal Insurrection.

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (0tmoY)

242 Wow, this is some shit that can lead to shooting.

Posted by: Inogame at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (+2xjH)

243 Just Like Amy Jackson Before Him, Judge Smith Makes It Clear: It Is Trump On Trial, Here, Not Flynn
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:39 PM (0ZqdL)


And it always was

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (85Gof)

244
So, for the progressives, this is likely a no win situation.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (8Xxh3)


Sullivan wastes all of our time, and is using his power to play a giant game of "SQUIRREL!".


He is fuching corrupt as they come. Fuching Sullivan is a traitor to his profession and to his country.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (sy5kK)

245 BTW, based on his reaction to the Ted Stevens case, I thought Sullivan would clean this up. LOL.

Maybe the Judge after guilty pleas but prior to recusal, Contreras, wasn't the only one that went to cocktail parties with Strozk and Page. Maybe they got something on Sullivan.

Two years ago I would have called bullshit on myself. Now, not so much.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (hKi6n)

246 Am I the only one that remembers when Sullivan was playing Nth Dimensional Chess - and we all just needed to give the process time to work out ?

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (tjRMO)

247 It's difficult to read anything into this. The judge basically said he anticipates that outside parties are going to want to submit amicus curiae briefs. Well, duh, of course they are. The lawyers for the swamp have been writing since the DOJ announced the decision to drop the case.

There is no way to know what the judge will do with the briefs once they are submitted. He may just look at them and decide to throw them in the trash. It should be also be noted that toilet paper is in short supply, so the paper can always be put to good use.

Posted by: Patrick Jennings


LOL
You sound like Gabriel Cockscuker Malor.

Never met the guy, and you misspelled "c#$ksucker."

Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (LoFQJ)

248 There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)
+++++++++++++++
He's trapped an enraged and sputtering at having the *only* prosecution in the entire Spygate affair come undone.

Don't assume he's acting rationally. It could be as simple as his rage leading to mad decisions.

Or there could be another ace up the Deep State's sleeve (doubtful at this moment) or he doesn't care and will never let of Flynn until something or someone (like Trump with a pardon) intervenes and doesn't care about collateral damage to the judicial system.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (49vFo)

249 And to comment on another comment - DOJ's motion did not go into the particulars of most of this. It was fairly technical in nature.

Basically, the interview with Flynn was not part of any legitimate investigation, and therefore the whole thing is moot, there can be no crime committed in the course of what is not a legit investigation.

My translation - corrections welcomed.

Anyway, hemming and hawing, or even denying DOJ motion to dismiss, is not Sullivan addressing the substance of DOJ/FBI misconduct, as those were not part of the motion (even though they're the real story, and as I hinted earlier, probably will be getting their own attention).

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2020 07:41 PM (El6T/)

250
That's what this all about:

Trump Is On Trial

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:41 PM (0ZqdL)

251 So Sullivan wants to be Judge , jury and executioner.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 12, 2020 07:41 PM (2DOZq)

252 There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)

If he torches his credibility but the media not only refuses to report it but also tells bold faced lies to cover it up, did it really happen?

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:41 PM (9hauA)

253 I wish the DOJ had originally brought the New Black Panthers case to Sullivan.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:41 PM (LvTSG)

254 The reason Judges get away with this shit is becasue we allow them to.

They should get the 17th Century Taxt Collector Treatment anytime they show up in public.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2020 07:41 PM (qj8SX)

255 I know this is tinfoil hat stuff... but Sullivan is the judge to toss this... the fact that he's not leads me to think they got to him.

Posted by: Inogame at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (+2xjH)

256 Well, I guess the good news is that we all can file amicus briefs during the Jim Comey prosecution.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (hKi6n)

257 @Techno_Fog

Looking at the docket entries (#201 not present), we suspect an amicus brief has already been filed.

Perhaps by the former DOJ employees who want Sullivan to improperly proceed to sentencing.

Judge Sullivan risks turning this into a circus.

https://tinyurl.com/y8t6h6zc

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (cF8AT)

258 244
This is just DC telling Trump and allies that they can't win in DC, right?



Because: FU, we run DC.



A banana republic masquerading as a respiblic, if you can keep it!

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2020 07:40 PM (bDqIh)

The Soviets had much better show trials.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (KnJdm)

259 Didn't Eric Holder drop the voter intimidation case against some black panthers AFTER they were already convicted at trial?

Posted by: sparks at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (aWD5H)

260 259 I know this is tinfoil hat stuff... but Sullivan is the judge to toss this... the fact that he's not leads me to think they got to him.
Posted by: Inogame at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (+2xjH)

===========

Obama was using and abusing FISA for literally years.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (LvTSG)

261 >>>This is just DC telling Trump and allies that they can't win in DC, right?



Which is worrisome to me, RE: the coup plotters.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (AFSld)

262

WHO STOLE THE STRAWBERRIES???!!!!

Posted by: Judge Emmett Sullivan at May 12, 2020 07:43 PM (sy5kK)

263

The reason Judges get away with this shit is becasue we allow them to.

They should get the 17th Century Taxt Collector Treatment anytime they show up in public.
Posted by: garrett


The US Marshals Service would not take kindly to any such tomfoolery

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:43 PM (SFOr6)

264
Literally, all they have is "but he already plead out!!"
That's it. That's their "case."

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:43 PM (0ZqdL)

265 263 Didn't Eric Holder drop the voter intimidation case against some black panthers AFTER they were already convicted at trial?
Posted by: sparks at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (aWD5H)


IIRC the case was never made by Holder. That's what prompted J. Christian Adams to leave the DoJ.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:43 PM (s2VJv)

266 Wow, this is some shit that can lead to shooting.

Posted by: Inogame


shh...


The chair is against the wall. The chair is against the wall.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 07:43 PM (vDlBn)

267 Turley cont'd...

@JonathanTurley 2 minutes ago

...It is hard to imagine the court insisting on sentencing a defendant to jail when prosecutors believe he was unjustly charged. Ironically, Judge Sullivan made this motion easier due to the controversy over his prior sentencing hearing...

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:43 PM (cF8AT)

268 Except, they're Democrats and swamp creatures. So, two sets of rules, two sets of law?
Posted by: Hands at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (786Ro)
+++++++++++++++
Far worse than that, Hands.

There is an arbitrary and shifting and standardless set of rules for one side, and no rules at all for the other.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (49vFo)

269 Story that singer Bryan Adams is about to get himself and his career canceled over some nasty anti-Chinese comments he made recently on Twitter.
I don't really have much empathy for Adams. He's said some really nasty things about PDT, I believe.
Posted by: qdpsteve at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (L2ZTs)

Yup......It cuts like a knife.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (Z+IKu)

270 F*ck anyone that says they'd settle for Barry being "embarrassed". This lawfare shit here is why he needs his mocha pussy held to the sizzling skillet. ESPECIALLY after 3 years of "investigating" Agent Orange.

Posted by: SaltyDonnie at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (dCfX9)

271 But why Schiff? Why not also third parties who think the government is correct?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (dNzKv)

272 What the actual FoxTrot!?
We're getting to straws and camel's backs here.

Posted by: RI Red at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (0218Z)

273 >>The judge basically said he anticipates that outside parties are going to want to submit amicus curiae briefs.


In a criminal proceeding? No.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (qj8SX)

274 That's is just it, I severally doubt Sullivan is so stupid as to torch his credibility this way.

Again, if he gives the progressive the rope, they'll hang themselves. It is easy for Obama to snip from the sidelines but his ruling is essentially saying, put up or shut up.

Why can a simp like Obama say if Sullivan allows Schiff to file, eviscerates the filing, legally, and dismisses the case with prejudice? That leaves the progressives no where to go. They can not argue that "but for Barr" Flynn was guilty.

You think they won't try and impeach Barr and Trump over this stupid shit? If Schiff files as a friend of the court, AND Sullivan dismisses, they have no where to go.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (8Xxh3)

275 >>>Obama was using and abusing FISA for literally years.


I wonder if King Putt or one of his minions made a call to Sullivan after they saw conservatives cheering the decision?

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (AFSld)

276 There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)


I thought Sullivan was a good guy until the "treason" comments to Flynn. Now, I don't know but am very suspicious.

And Sullivan is only torching his credibility if he's a good guy - if he's a lefty looking to hammer Flynn, he's actually polishing his credentials.

Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (Ed8Zd)

277 Well time for dinner.

Then get working out more plot and such in Nemesis' Javelin. Of course the Nefarious Space Otters are behind the reason the crew is in trouble.

Still need to write the big battle in the onsen.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (6taT0)

278 263 Didn't Eric Holder drop the voter intimidation case against some black panthers AFTER they were already convicted at trial?
Posted by: sparks at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (aWD5H)

Yes, but he was using the South African Constitution, at the request of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (sy5kK)

279 Judge Sullivan risks turning this into a circus.

https://tinyurl.com/y8t6h6zc
Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (cF8AT)
+++++++++++++++++++
That ship sailed so long ago that you would have to go into the physical archives in some dank sub-basement to even find a record of it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (49vFo)

280 Well, National Omertà Radio will finally have some good news to report on the Flynn case again!

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (WX0+d)

281 There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)


Or maybe - just maybe - you've put all your faith in a system that's rotten to the damn core.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (tjRMO)

282 Pelican Brief won't git 'er done, gotta go with Duluth Trading Post.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (XhWtx)

283 213 Sullivan is working as a campaign manager for Joe Biden. He wants to sentence Flynn and force Trump to pardon him, so that Biden and the Dems can use that as a Campaign Issue in the fall elections.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (V2Yro)



Chicken Dinner

Posted by: Braenyard at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (5NHwY)

284 He must have family being threatened by the Deep State or something. Can't understand the turnaround otherwise.
Posted by: David-2 at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (4easO)

Don't underestimate the power of TDS.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (9hauA)

285

Someone will be reigning in hizzoner soon, is my guess. This is a temper tantrum from a lifetime appointee.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (SFOr6)

286 "243 @JonathanTurley 3 minutes ago

Interesting development just in the Flynn case. Judge Sullivan just issued an order saying "at the appropriate time, the Court will enter an Order governing the submission of any amicus curiae briefs." That certainly does not suggest quick order granting an unopposed motion...

...The Court is faced with an unopposed motion where the Justice Department no longer believes the case can be ethically prosecuted. Judge Sullivan appears incline to bring in third parties to argue against an unopposed motion where the defendant and prosecutors agree..."

Turley's analysis is spot on. To add, this is asking for commentary on an unopposed motion for no discernible reasons, let alone legal reasons, other than to vent about it being unfair somehow.

Sullivan should just man up and report Barr to the Board of Professional Responsibility for what he claims to be unethical conduct.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (puu6v)

287 President Cuomo will nominate Sullivan to be Even More Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (oVJmc)

288 Have you been to a federal courthouse and seen US Marshals lately? Not the youngest, spryest group of folks. It's practically a law enforcement retirement home.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (H5knJ)

289 But why Schiff?


Indeed.

Posted by: Your Chinese -Owned Government at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (vDlBn)

290 >>>Yup......It cuts like a knife.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


God dammit, you beat me to it!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (AFSld)

291 Is anybody really surprised? Obama just had yahoo leak his "rule of law" rant that was meant for Sullivan. No different than when he told Comey via TV that he didn't feel Hillary showed intent. Comey repeated it nearly word for word

Posted by: macko at May 12, 2020 07:46 PM (adVtW)

292
Didn't Eric Holder drop the voter intimidation case against some black panthers AFTER they were already convicted at trial?
Posted by: sparks

======

After they pled No Contest.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:46 PM (SFAhl)

293 Oh yeah Sullivan is playing chess here.

Just like Roberts refusing to overturn ObamaCare to help Romney get elected.

It's all so simple, can't you see?

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:46 PM (yokAj)

294 >>> There is either something else going on here or Sullivan has just decided to torch his credibility as judge for nothing.
~~~~~

Sullivan is asshoe.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 12, 2020 07:46 PM (sGotD)

295 If I was the Defense, I would tell the Judge and Prosecution to go ahead and sentence Flynn then, so we can get on with the Appeals process in a less biased Court.

And I'd say it just that way.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2020 07:46 PM (NgKpN)

296 @JonathanTurley 1 minute ago

...due to the controversy, Flynn opted not to be sentenced by Sullivan at that time. That left him unsentenced, which ironically made this motion easier. Otherwise, Flynn would have faced a more difficult post-conviction motion while on appeal. No amicus can change that record...

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (cF8AT)

297 254
That's what this all about:


Trump Is On Trial


Posted by: Soothsayer

President Trump needs to win another 4 year term, not just for this country, but, to protect himself and his family from what is going to happen to him/them once he is no longer President.
This willful destruction will never end.

Posted by: old chick at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (sOete)

298 "285

Someone will be reigning in hizzoner soon, is my guess. This is a temper tantrum from a lifetime appointee."

Unfortunately that won't happen. See even one-half of a Republican-controlled Senate signing onto a judicial impeachment?

Sullivan is doing this because he knows he will suffer no consequences.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (puu6v)

299

>>The judge basically said he anticipates that outside parties are going to want to submit amicus curiae briefs.


In a criminal proceeding? No.
Posted by: garrett


Yes he did, and yes, he can. But any such amici can't prosecute the case in the absence of the US Attorney's office. As I posted above with the Texas federal case, private citizens cannot enforce criminal law.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (SFOr6)

300 Sullivan is working as a campaign manager for Joe Biden. He wants to sentence Flynn and force Trump to pardon him, so that Biden and the Dems can use that as a Campaign Issue in the fall elections


Flynn was convicted in the mueller probe into Russian collusion and trump pardoned him!! That proves trump is Putin's gay lover!!!!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (dNzKv)

301 After they pled No Contest.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:46 PM (SFAhl)
~~~~~

They didn't plead anything. It was a Default Judgment.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (sGotD)

302
@JonathanTurley 2 minutes ago

...It is hard to imagine the court...


Yeah, you know what else used to be hard to imagine?
-Openly framing a US president and staging a coup. Twice.
-Murdering a Democrat pedo sex fiend in prison to silence him.
-Colluding with China to destroy the US economy and alter the 2020 election.
-

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (0ZqdL)

303 This country needs an enema.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (xXJfx)

304 It appears the good judge lacks an understanding of Rule 308 section 556 in the code of federal procedures.

Posted by: An Observation at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (lUR07)

305
But why Schiff? Why not also third parties who think the government is correct?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy

=======

Did ace say Schiff or did the judge say Schiff? Although if the judge didn't explicitly say Schiff, I'm sure it can be assumed.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (SFAhl)

306 Again, if he gives the progressive the rope, they'll hang themselves. It is easy for Obama to snip from the sidelines but his ruling is essentially saying, put up or shut up.

Why can a simp like Obama say if Sullivan allows Schiff to file, eviscerates the filing, legally, and dismisses the case with prejudice? That leaves the progressives no where to go. They can not argue that "but for Barr" Flynn was guilty.

You think they won't try and impeach Barr and Trump over this stupid shit? If Schiff files as a friend of the court, AND Sullivan dismisses, they have no where to go.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:44 PM (8Xxh3)

I hope you are right, but I would be surprised if that's the case.

Posted by: chique d' Epstein didn't off hisself at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (9hauA)

307 274....

Huh? The guy that called Flynn a "traitor" is smart? He's a Leftwing Deepstate apparatchik whose only qualification for wielding a gavel literally is skin deep.

Posted by: PacosMojo at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (dearX)

308 Sullivan is asshoe.


And darned cheap. Comparatively speaking.

Posted by: Xi at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (vDlBn)

309 I guess this is why Dems are frantic about McConnell getting the Senate to approve more of Trump's Federal Court nominees.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 12, 2020 07:48 PM (4a9Vv)

310 Posted by: qdpsteve at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (L2ZTs)


He's a vegan. He can eat shit. Well he already does but you get my drift.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 12, 2020 07:48 PM (IYHxL)

311 264 259 I know this is tinfoil hat stuff... but Sullivan is the judge to toss this... the fact that he's not leads me to think they got to him.
Posted by: Inogame at May 12, 2020 07:42 PM (+2xjH)


Or else Sullivan has ALWAYS been corrupt, just like the rest of the deep state, and he just popped off on Stevens since Stevens no longer mattered anymore. And he hates Trump, and he'll sell out his entire career just for his one Big Shot to Get Trump.

Besides, if Biden wins, Sullivan goes straight to the Supreme Court now.

Posted by: Tom Servo at May 12, 2020 07:48 PM (V2Yro)

312 308 Sullivan is asshoe.


And darned cheap. Comparatively speaking.
Posted by: Xi at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (vDlBn)

===========

Lochlan turned for much less.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:48 PM (LvTSG)

313 A Republican Congress can easily remodel the federal district court system.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:48 PM (dNzKv)

314 @Cernovich 49 minutes ago

In a highly political move, Judge Sullivan is soliciting amicus briefs, knowing that the ones he will approve (note his order gives full discretion on what briefs to approve to himself) will all be critical of Barr.

Judge Sullivan is acting as a politician, not a judge.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (cF8AT)

315 >>Didn't Eric Holder drop the voter intimidation case against some black panthers AFTER they were already convicted at trial?


IIRC, he also killed the prosecution of KSG, which was near completion, with his stunt attempt at getting Gitmo terrorists tried in US criminal courts.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (bDqIh)

316 But why Schiff?

Because nadler can't make it up the stairs of the Court House

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (85Gof)

317 Old chick @ 297- You are dead on the money there, comrade.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (XhWtx)

318 JJ Sefton, attention to lUR07.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (KnJdm)

319 >>>Did ace say Schiff or did the judge say Schiff? Although if the judge didn't explicitly say Schiff, I'm sure it can be assumed.


I said it, but I think Margot Cleveland was just using him as for instance.

In theory, parties who support the dismissal CAN also submit amicus briefs, BUT THOSE ARE OBVIOUSLY NOT THE ONES HE IS SEEKING WITH THIS LAWLESS, MADE IT UP OUT OF MY ASSHOLE ORDER.

Posted by: ace at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (PbpT7)

320 Well, I kind of figured that Emmet G. Sullivan would do this. He had a choice: admit that the Obama prosecutosr lied to him and made a fool of him and his court in order to railroad Flynn into prison, or, double-down and go down in flames with the remnants of the federal judicial system in order to protect You-Know-Who.

Posted by: mrp at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (Pqytn)

321
So what if they file an "amicus?"

What's the judge supposed to do with it? He can't just accept a third party to be the new Prosecutors because he and they feel like it.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (0ZqdL)

322 -Colluding with China to destroy the US economy and alter the 2020 election.
-

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (0ZqdL)
+++++++++++++
- Releasing a candidate on their side from prosecution for gross mishandling of confidential materials and acting as a real and present danger to national security.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (49vFo)

323 I'm really interested now in seeing how Poopy-Pants Sullivan tries to override a presidential pardon. Make him try, Mr. President!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (H3MF8)

324 @JonathanTurley 40 seconds ago

Amicus can certainly add more heat but not light. More importantly, it is unlikely to change the outcome. I previously stated that I thought Judge Sullivan would call a hearing. This appears to confirm that he is unlikely to go quietly into the night with a ruling on the papers.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (cF8AT)

325 >>> Maybe this is permissible but I've never heard of it but, again, not even close to my area of expertise.

No, someone without standing may not sustain a case in absence of someone who does have standing.

Oh and this violates separation of powers.

The judge here is clearly acting outside any juris prudence.

Posted by: mikethemoose at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (Y6UV7)

326 >>>If I was the Defense, I would tell the Judge and Prosecution to go ahead and sentence Flynn then, so we can get on with the Appeals process in a less biased Court.


Sidney Powell is likely shouting F-bombs right now. She doesn't seem like the kind of person who accepts losing.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (AFSld)

327 Sullivan is asshoe.


Can that be filed as an official amicus?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (dNzKv)

328

Unfortunately that won't happen. See even one-half of a Republican-controlled Senate signing onto a judicial impeachment?

Sullivan is doing this because he knows he will suffer no consequences.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat


No one has to be impeached. Flynn's lawyers can file a motion to recuse, have it denied, seek interlocutory appeal or a writ of mandamus, and take it to the US Sup Ct if needed. Probably wouldn't get that far. DC Circuit is fairly conservative (in the institutional sense) and a judge going off like this will not likely be tolerated for long.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (SFOr6)

329 321
So what if they file an "amicus?"

What's the judge supposed to do with it? He can't just accept a third party to be the new Prosecutors because he and they feel like it.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (0ZqdL)

===========

"I find this amicus very compelling. I reject the dismissal. Get back in here and try and convict Flynn, DOJ lawyer."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (LvTSG)

330

Los Angeles County officials are recommending that the stay-at-home order be extended until August as the region continues efforts to reduce the spread of the coronavirus.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (aKsyK)

331

Bring me the gavel of Judge Sullivan.

Posted by: Oz, The Great and Powerful at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (FlRtG)

332 >>Yes he did, and yes, he can. But any such amici can't prosecute the case in the absence of the US Attorney's office


He can't order the DOJ to prosecute.
He can't act on the amici but to make them part of the record.
He can't prosecute the case himself, or allow a citizen to do so.

So, he's just posturing because that's all he has left.

Expect another long winded and poorly reasoned Judicial Soliloquy from a Despotic Usurper of Federal Power.

Posted by: garrett at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (0vKOr)

333 If only Comrade Stalin were aware of Comrade Flynn's suffering.

The remedy to an over-reaching Judiciary still won't be found via the Judiciary. This will not be settled in any way that suits some of us in a courtroom.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (tjRMO)

334

So let it be written.

So let it be done.

Posted by: Yul "Rameses" Brynner at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (FlRtG)

335 Appellate court faced with a writ of mandamus joined by both parties in a criminal case seeing a result that is mandated by precedent and policy, and inures to the defendant's benefit? That should take about 3 minutes in a functioning, competent, not hopelessly corrupted chamber.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (ja/kn)

336 >>I thought Sullivan was a good guy until the "treason" comments to Flynn. Now, I don't know but am very suspicious.

>>And Sullivan is only torching his credibility if he's a good guy - if he's a lefty looking to hammer Flynn, he's actually polishing his credentials.

No, this is different. Being a pompous blowhard is pretty much the job description of a judge. This is defiance.

The DOJ says dropped the case because by law they can't make one and it is obvious the prosecution and the government acted corruptly.

If there is nothing else going on this isn't left or right, this is just corrupt.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (ZLI7S)

337 Waiting for the legal beagles to reconcile this with the gay marriage decision in California based on the voter initiative, the one in which the State AG declined to defend the lawsuit and the Judge ruled third parties could not defend because they "lacked standing."

Maybe we all can be part of the victim's panel at Comey's sentencing.

Posted by: Mr. Barky at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (hKi6n)

338 Judge Sullivan is acting as a politician, not a judge.
Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (cF8AT)
++++++++++++++
As near as I can tell, they *all* act as politicians. Sullivan just seems to have given up all pretense.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (49vFo)

339
Van Grock has to be involved in this, somehow. He and this rotten judge were obviously in cahoots.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (0ZqdL)

340 But why Schiff?


Schiff's a former prosecutor, but also because he's a lying, deceitful motherfucker.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (oVJmc)

341 338 Judge Sullivan is acting as a politician, not a judge.
Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 07:49 PM (cF8AT)
++++++++++++++
As near as I can tell, they *all* act as politicians. Sullivan just seems to have given up all pretense.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (49vFo)

=========

So he's working on a promotion, huh?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (LvTSG)

342 In terms of procedure, certainly seems like an unstoppable force pushing on an open door, or something, very odd.

Prosecution abandons case, judge won't let them, um there's only prosecution and defense, nobody else gets to play, WTF over, what is the plan here?

Amicus briefs? Saying what, exactly?

Most of the details of the prosecutorial (and first defense counsel) misconduct are public now, they "lost" the effing 302 that is the entire basis of the case, there is a catalogue of Brady violations, etc etc.

All of this on top of the fact that it was an "investigation to nowhere" of something (some type of improper ill-defined "collusion") that never took place (as confirmed by all witnesses in the HPSCI transcripts just released), and the "charge" is that a former DIA director didn't know his conversation with the Russian ambassador was recorded and available to the FBI.


Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (El6T/)

343 Duluth Trading Post.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (XhWtx)


Do you mean Duluth Trading Company? If so , is that good stuff? One just opened near me.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (jnM20)

344 Dance, Judge Monkey.



Dance!

Posted by: Xi at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (vDlBn)

345 Any reaction from Barr tomorrow?
I have not doubt PDT will tweet about it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (85Gof)

346 Sooth @ 302- If ever sooth was said you just said it right there. It's all about getting revenge on Donald Trump (and us) for harming their precious.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (XhWtx)

347
Trump is the one on trial.
We are the ones on trial.
I take this personally.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (0ZqdL)

348 I actually like this move by Sullivan.

Because this absolutely IS a political case, and it now includes what Obama did to frame Flynn, the Judge is giving everyone a chance to weigh in with briefs.

You may think that amicus briefs from the Lunatic Left will be ridiculous and difficult to read because Lunatics. Yep, true.

The facts, however, are NOT on the Lunatic Left's side at all. "Our" side will also have a chance to file amicus briefs, based on, oh, I don't know, the Senate's Russia Investigation, the House's Russia Investigation, the Mueller Report, the DoJ IG's report, Durham's findings, Grennell's declassifications, and a whole lot of excellent reporting of FACTS by Bongino, Levin and a host of others who should also be filing amicus briefs.

In a case that is expressly political like this, there's no way Sullivan can just make rulings any longer without making sure both sides get their say, even though everyone knows one side is Stark Raving Mad.

The entire world now knows that Obama ordered Flynn to be framed because Flynn was going to rip through the IC like Hercules cleansing the Aegean Stables, and also that Flynn was getting too close to the truth on the Steele/FBI Spying on the Trump Campaign. This is just doing the proper paperwork to make sure when the final decision is made, all the eyes are dotted and the tees crossed.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (BM2fS)

349 America has been leaning left for a while, but my God, King Putt really sent this country into the swirling toilet. Imagine if Hillary won. We'd be Venezuela by now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (AFSld)

350 From what I've been gleaning from all this, this Judge is corrupt, petty, vindictive and incompetent.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (H8QX8)

351 Interesting.

Can a JUDGE be guilty of obstruction of Justice?

At the very least, this is NOT a 'speedy trial', as the Judge is now delaying the case when the Prosecution says 'we ain't go nothin'.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (NgKpN)

352 donsurber.blogspot.com/ they dont want covid-19 to end

Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (ZCEU2)

353 An article at Red State says the there has never been a ruling on the "material" evidence. Hmmm


Isn't that what Barr is saying, that the evidence is not material to the case ?

This fucker is senile

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (M+Lyo)

354 From what I've been gleaning from all this, this Judge is corrupt, petty, vindictive and incompetent.





Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (H8QX


So a typical leftist

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (79U7Q)

355 Because this absolutely IS a political case, and it now includes what Obama did to frame Flynn, the Judge is giving everyone a chance to weigh in with briefs.


Ohhhhh. Weigh in WITH briefs, well, that would have made this hearing waaayyyh less awkward.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (dNzKv)

356 >>>The facts, however, are NOT on the Lunatic Left's side at all. "Our" side will also have a chance to file amicus briefs, based on, oh, I don't know, the Senate's Russia Investigation, the House's Russia Investigation, the Mueller Report...


Some may, but no one in our lauded GOP will even attempt it. Muh norms, and such.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (AFSld)

357 Still too early for tar and feathers?

Posted by: cornbred, pitchfork and sundries now on sale at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (A751K)

358 @328...what's the better theory for mandamus/ interlocutor appeal? Failure to recuse (your theory), or failure to enter a timely order (kicking the can with this amicus nonsense)?

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (ja/kn)

359 Imagine if Hillary won. We'd be Venezuela by now.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (AFSld)

Better base a ball players?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (85Gof)

360 Have you been to a federal courthouse and seen US Marshals lately? Not the youngest, spryest group of folks. It's practically a law enforcement retirement home.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (H5knJ)

Another bunch of overpaid, underworked stiffs who need to be abolished.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2020 07:54 PM (Z+IKu)

361 An article at Red State says the there has never been a ruling on the "material" evidence. Hmmm


Isn't that what Barr is saying, that the evidence is not material to the case ?

This fucker is senile
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (M+Lyo)


He also called Flynn a traitor in open court, then tried to walk it back, that should be enough right there.

Ole Sydney is gonn be fired up

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (M+Lyo)

362 off topic: email today from the Democrats:

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE: Trump's approval rating hits ALL-TIME HIGH -- a record 49% of Americans currently APPROVE of the president's job performance.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (4a9Vv)

363 This is why I keep saying the most important thing in the entire universe right now is Trump being reelected. I am so thankful to God that Trump knows it. Unless you like the idea of an eternal lockdown, K-2 downhill slide into at best, post-Weimar Germany. This last two months is just a taste of what they have planned for us.

The truth is we should not expect Justice in this world, only the next. Deep state is so-named because Deep. But we *can* keep Trump in, and at least delay our own day in Kangaroo Court. And hey, another four years to dig out the rotten apples.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (yokAj)

364 Legal system sure is BS.

Posted by: Chris M at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (6XZdO)

365 I'm really interested now in seeing how Poopy-Pants Sullivan tries to override a presidential pardon. Make him try, Mr. President!
Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (H3MF
++++++++++++
I think they might be trying to goad Trump into doing exactly that. I am not sure what the end game is on that because Trump can't be impeached for a pardon, but Biden's team can probably make political hay with it. "Trump's corrupt AG intervened for a political ally and when the court bravely fought back, Trump intervened again to release a foreign agent from prosecution. This kind of good 'ole boy corruption cannot stand. Vote Biden to ensure a return to law and order, a return to a country where foreign powers don't have a blank check to interfere in our democracy!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (49vFo)

366 Thump is on trial

By delaying this, asking for briefs, which beget motions for additional time to brief, and motions for time to file additional briefs .... oh, look! It's October-- time to rule, just in time for the election!

"I hereby find the DOJ was improperly pressured by Trump and further find that the guilty plea was well supported by the evidence and order that the motion to withdraw the plea is denied."

Tell me how that doesn't happen ....

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (QLUrq)

367 349
America has been leaning left for a while, but my God, King Putt really
sent this country into the swirling toilet. Imagine if Hillary won. We'd
be Venezuela by now.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (AFSld)

Kosovo.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (KnJdm)

368 >>>Better base a ball players?


FOR THE LAST TIME, STOP TRASHING MY ORIOLES!

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (AFSld)

369 362 off topic: email today from the Democrats:

THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE: Trump's approval rating hits ALL-TIME HIGH -- a record 49% of Americans currently APPROVE of the president's job performance.
Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (4a9Vv)

==========

But I'm supposed to believe that Biden is gonna wipe the floor with Trump at the same time?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:55 PM (LvTSG)

370 Meanwhile congress, who has the power to deal with rogue judges, sits on their thumbs.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (KZzsI)

371 347
Trump is the one on trial.
We are the ones on trial.
I take this personally.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (0ZqdL)

Trials over, you are sentenced to home detention and loss of your livelihood for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: CoviD court at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (NgKpN)

372
I suspect that "2000 former DOJ corrupt cocksuckers demand Barr resign" has emboldened the Deep State.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (0ZqdL)

373 >>The facts, however, are NOT on the Lunatic Left's side at all. "Our" side will also have a chance to file amicus briefs, based on, oh, I don't know, the Senate's Russia Investigation, the House's Russia Investigation, the Mueller Report, the DoJ IG's report, Durham's findings, Grennell's declassifications

Grenell's declassifications that include the names of the people who unmasked Flynn and leaked his name?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (ZLI7S)

374 If there is nothing else going on this isn't left or right, this is just corrupt.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (ZLI7S)

The judge has become - as my wife told me - a litigant in the case, and is no longer a judge. He's taken a side and he wants an outcome.

Trump should just pardon Flynn now, denounce the judge as a hack, and appoint Flynn to IC team...

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (32YRo)

375

Have you been to a federal courthouse and seen US Marshals lately? Not the youngest, spryest group of folks. It's practically a law enforcement retirement home.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 12, 2020 07:45 PM (H5knJ)

Another bunch of overpaid, underworked stiffs who need to be abolished.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy


LOL, not the ones at the courthouses. They are all just this side of Biden-level atrophy. There are lots of younger guys in prisoner transport and such that would be called in to protect the decrepit hacks in black as they are called should the need arise.

Posted by: imp at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (SFOr6)

376 *I* AM THE LAW!!!!!

Posted by: Judge Sullivan J. Dredd at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (oVJmc)

377 Sounds like Sullivan is lobbying to have a crack at being the next POTUS Biden's VP.

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (WqPYg)

378
donsurber.blogspot.com/ they dont want covid-19 to end



Posted by: Skip at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (ZCEU2)


Jabba the Pritzker: I want my $41 billion or nothing is opening!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (79U7Q)

379 A *Republican* Congress can easily remodel the federal district court system.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 12, 2020 07:48 PM (dNzKv)


Thanks for that, I needed a really good laugh after today's events!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (jnM20)

380 Sidney Powell is likely shouting F-bombs right now. She doesn't seem like the kind of person who accepts losing.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at May 12, 2020 07:50 PM (AFSld)


The she'd best get used to it - because if she's surprised, she's the kind of fuck that knows the price of everything and the value of nothing. She's a smart idiot.

She won the show-trial on points. But the judges ruled otherwise. And that ruling was written before the first punch was thrown.

Because this was a show trial. If she thought different going in - she's a dumb ass.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (tjRMO)

381 @348...that's definitely the best that can be said for Sullivan's amicus order. I' m not sure though. As long as this is in from of Sullivan, Flynn himself can't speak publicly. Ultimately, I think that's what this is all about...keeping Flynn's mouth shut as long as possible.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (ja/kn)

382 378
Jabba the Pritzker: I want my $41 billion or nothing is opening!!!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (79U7Q)

==========

Census 2020: Illinois loses 10 electoral votes.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (LvTSG)

383 So Flynn's torture will continue for at least a couple more months before all of this garbage is put to bed.

Deep State is probably pushing for Trump to pardon Flynn, this way the "taint" of "pleading guilty" will stay on Flynn.

Just more grist for the Deep State/MSM/Donk narrative mill.

All I have to say is that Barr/Durham better deliver blows so devastating that the G-ds in heaven will tremeble.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2020 07:58 PM (xXJfx)

384 Maybe this will push Barr's timeline up and even add a name to it: Sullivan

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 07:59 PM (85Gof)

385 Because this was a show trial. If she thought different going in - she's a dumb ass.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 07:57 PM (tjRMO)

Powell is no dumbass - she knew that Sullivan was a whack - this is for appeal or pardon and there is nothing Sullivan or anyone else for that matter can do about that...

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 07:59 PM (32YRo)

386 383 All I have to say is that Barr/Durham better deliver blows so devastating that the G-ds in heaven will tremeble.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2020 07:58 PM (xXJfx)

==========

"I was going to send down a few thunderbolts, but I think they've suffered enough."
-Zeus

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 12, 2020 07:59 PM (LvTSG)

387 >>If there is nothing else going on this isn't left or right, this is just corrupt.


What's the purpose her (beyond punishing Flynn) -- is it to save Obama from prosecution, or at minimum, provide the "out" - see, couldn't have been that bad because Flynn was successfully prosecuted. Just enough to manipulate the LIVs.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2020 07:59 PM (bDqIh)

388 So, since Adam Schiff set the precedent that a congressman can pull telephone metadata on anyone, I wonder which Republican rep is going to pull the metadata on Sullivan and find out who he talked to between the DoJ withdrawal and now.

That's right. None of them will.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 07:59 PM (49vFo)

389 Could he be impeached for it?

C'mon, folks, we just went through this.

Judges, like confirmed members of the Executive, can be impeached. BUT...the House is the chamber which impeaches. Can you see Pelosi impeaching this guy. Further, it requires a 2/3 majority in the Senate to convict. Once again, this isn't happening.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 12, 2020 08:00 PM (ExV1e)

390 Is it the 5th of November yet? We are past April 12th so we have to have something to look forward to.

Posted by: Heart of Darkness at May 12, 2020 08:00 PM (xceTB)

391
Yeah, you know what else used to be hard to imagine?

-Openly framing a US president and staging a coup. Twice.

-Murdering a Democrat pedo sex fiend in prison to silence him.

-Colluding with China to destroy the US economy and alter the 2020 election.

-





Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:47 PM (0ZqdL)

....A SC judge dying with a pillow over his face of "natural causes" right before Hillary's scheduled Ascent.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 08:00 PM (yokAj)

392 Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (BM2fS)

======================================
Very nice, but not convincing. At all. Sullivan had a choice : The Rule of Law or protect Barry. That's it. Sullivan should have at least read the relevant documents, and the documents are damning for the corrupt prosecution (and the probably corrupt first Flynn team). Occam's Razor.

Posted by: mrp at May 12, 2020 08:00 PM (Pqytn)

393 This is just a diversion from the coronavirus pandemic. Unleash the coronavirus pandemic in the Beltway and let's sort this all out.

Posted by: Fritz at May 12, 2020 08:00 PM (95j/9)

394 Margot Cleveland linked to this Red State article which explains that Sullivan never found on the materiality of the guilty plea in the first place, so that makes Flynn's guilty plea invalid.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y958g28g

Posted by: IrishEi at May 12, 2020 08:00 PM (sGotD)

395 The "LAW" is for people who can afford it.



Always has been. Always will be.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (vDlBn)

396 Wade in briefs; saw Joan Blondell do that.

Posted by: Braenyard at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (5NHwY)

397 The Left/Deep State's strategy seems to be to allow us no victory. If we do achieve one, then to make us pay, twice over. Beginning with Trump's election. They are relentless and merciless -- even to extent of demolishing the entire country.

We have yet to understand this.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (H8QX8)

398 I am sure this is all part of Q's plan somehow.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

399 Is it possible Judge Sullivan was just tired of winning?

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (yokAj)

400 Commissar Hrothgar @ 343, I confess ignorance of all things Duluth. Except something something to do with the Edmund Fitzgerald or such like? Anyway I wear Hanes Extreme, comfy, confident, and contained.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 08:02 PM (XhWtx)

401 371
347

Trump is the one on trial.

We are the ones on trial.

I take this personally.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 07:53 PM (0ZqdL)



Trials over, you are sentenced to home detention and loss of your livelihood for the foreseeable future.

Posted by: CoviD court at May 12, 2020 07:56 PM (NgKpN)

__________


BREAKING on CNN: Dr. Fauci has a new model showing that if every American is sealed permanently in their homes -- there will never be another reported American death in history; will urge the President to finally start saving lives. Follow the SCIENCE! Developing ...

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 08:02 PM (WqPYg)

402 Lawyers and judges gotta payoff dem LOANS, baby.



But they do hope that you were sufficiently entertained.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (vDlBn)

403 Jeebus, if Pelosi's eyebrows get any higher they will be in the back of her head.

Posted by: Infidel at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (nvc6v)

404 One day we are going to figure out and accept that the rule of law simply does not exist in the United States anymore.

Because only then can we then do something about it.

Posted by: U.S. Media at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (ejsiI)

405 387
>>If there is nothing else going on this isn't left or right, this is just corrupt.





What's the purpose her (beyond punishing Flynn) -- is it to save
Obama from prosecution, or at minimum, provide the "out" - see, couldn't
have been that bad because Flynn was successfully prosecuted. Just
enough to manipulate the LIVs.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2020 07:59 PM (bDqIh)

I can see it as a protect barry bargaining chip.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (KnJdm)

406 Being entombed is where it's at. After being entombed, no harm ever came to me again.

Posted by: King Tut at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (H5knJ)

407

It's not that Gen Flynn has done something to piss them off.
It's what he knows.
Former head of the DIA.
He knows a LOT.

There is a saying, um, somewhere. Some of you know where.

"We have it all."

Imagine, between the DIA (Gen Flynn) and the NSA (Adm Rogers) what they have "swept up" over the years.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (l1wsb)

408 The corruption is breathtaking.


Posted by: Diogenes at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (axyOa)

409 You know PDT is just itching to pull that pardon lever

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (85Gof)

410 The sentence Flynn to the minimum and allow for appeal. At that point it is no longer his problem.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:37 PM (8Xxh3)

He could do that - the appeals court would write a scathing rebuke no doubt basically calling him an imbecile in front of the entire nation for not taking the prosecutions withdraw due to mishandling of the case, and then he can sit there and be known as the most idiotic judge in history...seems he's ready for that clown dunking.

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (32YRo)

411 Okay seriously, does anyone think that anything filed by Schiff is going to be coherent, honest, and follow the law?

Except for the jeopardy to Flynn, I'd love to see the amicus brief filed by Schiff.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (8Xxh3)

412 Jabba the Pritzker: I want my $41 billion or nothing is opening!!!


Posted by: TheQuietMan

Heh, piker, Jay wants a cool trillion...

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (2ygtH)

413 There is nothing in the US Constitution that says judeges must be impeached. Impeachment is only discussed in the section titled, "The Executive."

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (xfb67)

414 398
I am sure this is all part of Q's plan somehow.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

_________


"Dude, this is Chapter 1,923 of my unpublished novel. It's all going according to script ..." -- Fusion Glenn Simpson

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (WqPYg)

415 There is nothing in the US Constitution that says judges must be impeached. Impeachment is only discussed in the section titled, "The Executive."

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (xfb67)

416 Coronavirus in the Beltway is God pulling weeds.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (zGLW8)

417 If there is nothing else going on this isn't left or right, this is just corrupt.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 07:51 PM (ZLI7S)
+++++++++++++
It's left and right to some degree, but it is primarily just corrupt. They're all corrupt. The government itself is corrupt. Completely.

How many other people did Sullivan railroad? How many people have judges railroaded in the past 20-30 years? All of them? Most of them? Some of them?

I don't know. I suspect it is between "most" and "all." And that's a problem. After everything we have seen for the past 3-4 years, why should anyone assume that anyone's conviction, acquittal, plea bargain, administrative measure or any other treatment bad or good was above board? You can't safely assume that opposite of the outcome would have been proper, but you likewise can't assume the outcome was proper.

Trust status: utterly destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (49vFo)

418 The Left/Deep State's strategy seems to be to allow
us no victory. If we do achieve one, then to make us pay, twice over.
Beginning with Trump's election. They are relentless and merciless --
even to extent of demolishing the entire country.


Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 12, 2020 08:01 PM (H8QX

I think more to the point you could just say "The Left/Deep State's strategy [is] ...... demolishing the entire country."

I believe it has nothing to do with what we want or achieve. For 55 years but especially the last 14, they have pushed us into a defense of *absolutely everything* and have done it while laughing in our face.

They are the most dangerous enemy this country has ever known.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (yokAj)

419 "324 @JonathanTurley 40 seconds ago

Amicus can certainly add more heat but not light. More importantly, it is unlikely to change the outcome. I previously stated that I thought Judge Sullivan would call a hearing. This appears to confirm that he is unlikely to go quietly into the night with a ruling on the papers."

Whether Turley's omission was intentional or not isn't apparent, but it's a big one. What Sullivan is doing here is allowing left-wing groups to give Yelp-type reviews of Barr via legal briefs. Sullivan should just man up and claim Barr is guilty of misconduct and refer him the D.C. Bar, but, naaah, he wants Yelp reviews.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (puu6v)

420 The judge intends to deliver a ruling that Trump exercised improper pressure on the DOJ

He's looking for amicus briefs to say that and cite as proof

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (QLUrq)

421 Van Grock has to be involved in this, somehow. He and this rotten judge were obviously in cahoots.

Posted by: Soothsayer
=====
"We framed him. Fair and square. And we invoked the 'no mulligans' rule."

Posted by: 2009Refugee - Thought Indifferent at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (8AONa)

422 Posted by: TeeJ at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (l1wsb)

What do you mean swept up

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (IYHxL)

423 The rule of law...Indeed!

Posted by: Tentotwo at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (yhf6w)

424 204
Wait, what does the court have any say at all if the charges have been dropped and there is no case to try?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (s2VJv)

What if no one shows for the next hearing? The state nor the defense?

Posted by: Inogame at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (+2xjH)

425 Powell is no dumbass - she knew that Sullivan was a whack - this is for appeal or pardon and there is nothing Sullivan or anyone else for that matter can do about that...

If she - or for that matter Flynn - are not looking for places that will refuse to extradite - they're both fools.

Those places "could" be States. But probably need to be foreign territories.

Anybody looking for justice from the judiciary right now should probably find the nearest pile of horse-shit and start digging for a pony.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (tjRMO)

426 Mr Barky, that stands as my favorite "legal" usurpation of all time, next to the out-and-out legislating and making-shit-up from the bench that is now rife.

CA AG, in bad faith, refuses to do his job and defend the voters' proposition vote.

Voters don't have standing to fight for it.

Voila!

Posted by: rhomboid at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (El6T/)

427 was Sullivan on the OJ jury?

Posted by: x at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (nFwvY)

428 411
Okay seriously, does anyone think that anything filed by Schiff is going to be coherent, honest, and follow the law?



Except for the jeopardy to Flynn, I'd love to see the amicus brief filed by Schiff.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (8Xxh3)

_________


You think Schiff ever does any actual work? It'll be straight from the Chinese Communist Party's Sullivan Commission.

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (WqPYg)

429 You're a layman... I'll explain it in technical terms.

--Stimpy the cat.

1. The summary states the the Local Criminal Rules don't allow amicus curiae briefs, but the Local Civil Rules do and those rules cover all cases in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia. So, the judge has this (silly?) rule that allows amicus briefs in a criminal case. The judge, being no fool, knows that the Democratic party interests are going to want to submit amicus briefs under this (silly?) rule. If he does not allow them they will attack anything he may do that they don't like as improper and bias (because he would not allow their (silly?) amicus briefs. Judges like to tie up loose ends so their decisions are not open to reversal on review, so he allows the submission of amicus briefs.

2. Then the summary goes on to review the legal precedent on when amicus briefs are acceptable for consideration. In other words, he sets the standard for actually accepting the briefs for consideration, and the many reasons THEY CAN BE REJECTED.

3. Then he says he will set a schedule (deadline) for submission of the briefs with in a subsequent order.

4. There is nothing that shows this is irregular. I think it is prudent by the judge to shield a decision he may make to dismiss the case from attack.

Discuss among yourselves and leave me alone.

Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (LoFQJ)

430 IMHO -

If this results in a withdrawal of the guilty plea then on to trial - this could be a good thing. A very, very good thing.

Depositions, open court testimony for ALL the bigguns, middluns & littluns.

I think that would be an excellent outcome.

Posted by: phaedrus at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (Mf0t2)

431 No, it's not actionable. 

No, it's not impeachable.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)

Of course not, Alex. As you know, the federal judiciary is the only part of the American government with no elections, no practical impeachment, and no governing authority on their behavior. Why, Obamajugend Berman-Jackson (good Christian, she) can order a defendant silenced under threat of law while she cheerfully leaks to the media.

So no soapbox to protest, no jury box can be convened, no ballot box to remove the judge...

Why look! There's one box left!

Posted by: trev006 at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (0HpOW)

432 "Harvard Law Perfessor Barack Obama"

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (vDlBn)

433 Apparently Sullivan was very angry that the Petraeus case got knocked down to a misdemeanor, and this may be his way of getting even.

So yeah. Corrupt. Leftist. Obamanut.

Posted by: IrishEi at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (sGotD)

434 There's a pony under each pile of horseshit?!? Everyone, free ponies!

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 12, 2020 08:07 PM (H5knJ)

435 this judge is the bookend of the Dallas judge

fuck you cracker

and there's not a GD thing you can do about it

Posted by: REDACTED at May 12, 2020 08:07 PM (tQbpU)

436 I've got a question... We are guaranteed the right to assemble by the first amendment. The declaration further describes the principles behind our bill of rights as " life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness." Happiness is generally accepted to mean personal property. A business owners personal property requires some maintenance, it requires commerce with other free people. So, what do you do when the govt takes away a God given right that it CANNOT take away?

Ok, two questions, what do you do when the rule of law utterly disintigrates before your eyes?

(I spent 20 years as an airborne infantryman, I'm hoping for an answer I didn't already begin planning.)

Posted by: Fra Filippo at May 12, 2020 08:07 PM (7MUvN)

437 Posted by: Matthew Thullen at May 12, 2020 07:18 PM (68d2t)

Not that I don't like new commenters but here is another never before seen one giving a similar out to this story as "Patrick Jennings".

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 08:08 PM (yokAj)

438 Being entombed is where it's at. After being entombed, no harm ever came to me again.

Posted by: King Tut at May 12, 2020 08:03 PM (H5knJ)


The secret to my success!

Posted by: RBG at May 12, 2020 08:08 PM (2N7oZ)

439 I think the revolutionary war started over less.

***

The Revolutionary War started over a 1% tax and "common sense gun control".

Posted by: 18-1 at May 12, 2020 08:08 PM (WdocV)

440 424
204

Wait, what does the court have any say at all if the charges have been dropped and there is no case to try?



Posted by: J.J. Sefton at May 12, 2020 07:36 PM (s2VJv)



What if no one shows for the next hearing? The state nor the defense?

Posted by: Inogame at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (+2xjH)

_________


"Both sides will be arrested and forcibly dragged-in in chains. The show must go on!" -- Random Hawaiian Federal Judge

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 08:09 PM (WqPYg)

441 Jeff Sessions @jeffsessions
11h
Knowing of the President's disagreement with my decision, I tendered my resignation in writing the morning after Robert Mueller was appointed as special counsel. #alsen

Jeff Sessions
@jeffsessions
But President Trump chose not to accept it, and he asked me to continue to serve as his Attorney General and to help him "Make America Great Again.
***********
SESSIONZZZZZZZZZZZZ People hardest hit

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 12, 2020 08:09 PM (Lrula)

442 If you're watching Tucker... your head should be exploding .

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2020 08:09 PM (wiXsO)

443
Being entombed is where it's at. After being entombed, no harm ever came to me again.

___

I'm going to have to disagree with you here. Also scarabs make horrible pets.

Posted by: high priest Imhotep at May 12, 2020 08:09 PM (WdocV)

444 ask pixy why I am getting a "long string of text" rejection message.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of Hoboken at May 12, 2020 08:09 PM (4a9Vv)

445 Posted by: Matthew Thullen
Not
that I don't like new commenters but here is another never before seen
one giving a similar out to this story as "Patrick Jennings".



Lawyers gotta lawyer.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:09 PM (vDlBn)

446 How did I know... how did I just KNOW that the judge would argue the sun never came up...
I am so sick and tired of this. I've been short of breath lately with a massively elevated BP.. I am sick to my fucking stomach..
This is some vile and nasty bullshit.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 12, 2020 08:10 PM (aR6C/)

447 343 Do you mean Duluth Trading Company? If so , is that good stuff? One just opened near me.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (jnM20)


Yes. Great stuff. My Duluth wallet costs half of what I used to pay for wallets, and lasts 5+ years instead of 1-2. Their jeans and T-shirts are tough and well-made. I'm less sure about the Christmas undies with pickles on them.

Posted by: Splunge at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (dOV9E)

448 Hearing rumors that California is staying lovked down until August. Trying to track down the story.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (8mOxN)

449 >>What's the purpose her (beyond punishing Flynn) -- is it to save Obama from prosecution, or at minimum, provide the "out" - see, couldn't have been that bad

No idea but reading the minute order is interesting for the citations. Not having competent representation being the first.

Sullivan knows what he is going to do. This has nothing to do with that. He wants to make a show for some reason.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (ZLI7S)

450 Thanks Crunchyroll, another 63 episodes of City Hunter released.

Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (6taT0)

451 I said earlier : I have anecdotal evience that the ONLY motherfuckers getting Corona Stimmie checks are the "big guys".


The little guys could only afford to fight for two rounds before they fucking died.



#winning?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (vDlBn)

452 I very rarely get angry over the crap lefties do anymore - I am almost totally inured to it, by choice - however this and when they came out defending Iran and the late poet laureate muhammed in January absolutely sent my shit boiling. Fuckers.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (yokAj)

453
Sessions is full of shit.

Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (0ZqdL)

454 Getcha Pull at May 12, 2020 08:10 PM (aR6C/)

Try to step back from the laptop. It's hard but try. Try some stretching while listening to music or walking outside.

Posted by: BarcelonaCarmen at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (+CiEK)

455 409
You know PDT is just itching to pull that pardon lever

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (85Gof)

_________


At this point I'm hoping for the Pinochet lever instead. I had enough of this shit last year -- and it's gotten worse by an order of magnitude or two since ... *spit*

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (WqPYg)

456 Can't I just find Amanda Huggenkiss?

Posted by: Moe at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (a6Nz0)

457
Hearing rumors that California is staying lovked down until August. Trying to track down the story.


Generally the more aggressively a state locks down the more deaths it is going to get from Wuhan Flu.


In a sane world the governers in the North East and CA would be already impeached and facing long prison sentences....especially Cuomo.


Posted by: high priest Imhotep at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (WdocV)

458 Do you mean Duluth Trading Company? If so , is that good stuff? One just opened near me.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 07:52 PM (jnM20)

Yes. Great stuff. My Duluth wallet costs half of what I used to pay for wallets, and lasts 5+ years instead of 1-2. Their jeans and T-shirts are tough and well-made. I'm less sure about the Christmas undies with pickles on them.
Posted by: Splunge


Love Duluth Trading. Jeans, khakis, and Firehose pants. Shirts and underwear too.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:13 PM (8mOxN)

459 Sullivan knows what he is going to do. This has nothing to do with that. He wants to make a show for some reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (ZLI7S)

There can only be one reason...to make political hay attacking Barr and PDT.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 08:13 PM (85Gof)

460 I am so sick and tired of this. I've been short of breath lately with a massively elevated BP.. I am sick to my fucking stomach..
This is some vile and nasty bullshit.

Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 12, 2020 08:10 PM (aR6C/)

You wouldn't feel this way if we were fighting back with anything close to respectable or commensurate righteous fury. But we just keep bending over for the same old shit over and over, and it's sickening and demoralizing.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 12, 2020 08:13 PM (H8QX8)

461 Judges have absolute immunity for anything they do on the bench that is not a result of, say, bribery. There are really no constraints on Federal district court judges other than oh noes I might get yelled at by a higher court.
Posted by: alexthechick


He keeps this up, and he shall prove Wyat Earp right. He'll find out exactly how much immunity he truly has.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 12, 2020 08:13 PM (VcFUs)

462 There is nothing that shows this is irregular. I think it is prudent by the judge to shield a decision he may make to dismiss the case from attack.

Discuss among yourselves and leave me alone.
Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (LoFQJ)

Attack by who? There is no party who can attack his dismissal.

Unless you mean attack by the press/Obama-ites.

Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

463 Tucker is going over pelosi bill that has 1800 pages with the wishyest of the dem wish list evah. Sure its DOA.


But we better win the damn election for Prez, House and Senate this fall or we will be totally fucked.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (r+sAi)

464 448
Hearing rumors that California is staying lovked down until August. Trying to track down the story.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (8mOxN)

_________

The City of Los Angeles for sure.

Posted by: ShainS at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (WqPYg)

465 I am sick to my fucking stomach.

Why ? Honestly ?

This shit has been going for decades. Literally. Why be sick now ?

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (tjRMO)

466 Sessions is full of shit.
Posted by: Soothsayer at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (0ZqdL)
********
well your Underoos have something in common with him then

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Lrula)

467 Can we get into trouble if we tell Judge Sullivan to go fuck himself? (you listening you fucky fuck fuck?)

I don't have a law license...yet...so think I'm on solid ground doing that as long as I'm not in his courtroom.

If you have a bar card you just can't go around telling judges to go fuck themselves and there are some good reasons for that.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Y274z)

468 *Except something something to do with the Edmund Fitzgerald or such like?*
Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 08:02 PM (XhWtx)


*I will not follow up on the Edmund Fitzgerald opening.

But I will look for better quality gear at WallyMart

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (jnM20)

469 Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

He did say leave him alone.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (IYHxL)

470 Anybody looking for justice from the judiciary right now should probably find the nearest pile of horse-shit and start digging for a pony.
Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (tjRMO)

Yup. Imagine going to court for any reason as a registered republican right now. Good luck.

Posted by: Riley Reed at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (p0Y1J)

471 I suppose the other goal might be to drag this out longer so that Flynn can't be re-hired yet by Trump.

They have done everything to fight appointment of key roles, and now are fighting Grenell moving the investigation/revelations of what team coup were up to. Ezra Cohen-Watnick was just rehired, so they likely wanted to STOP Flynn from getting back into the Trump admin.

Posted by: Lizzy at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (bDqIh)

472 You know PDT is just itching to pull that pardon lever

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 08:04 PM (85Gof)

_________

maybe this is the impetus for Sullivan's weird order. Daring...tempting...baiting Trump into pardoning Flynn to take the onus off of Sullivan and give Biden a talking (mumbling?) point for the debates.

Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (Ed8Zd)

473 448
Hearing rumors that California is staying lovked down until August. Trying to track down the story.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (8mOxN)

Foregone conclusion. It has nothing to do with the virus. They're just doing their part in the crash-the-economy project.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (H8QX8)

474 Ella Fitzgerald > Edmund Fitzgerald

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (Z+IKu)

475 Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:13 PM (8mOxN)

Thanks for the info, I will give them a look!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (jnM20)

476 467 Can we get into trouble if we tell Judge Sullivan to go fuck himself? (you listening you fucky fuck fuck?)

I don't have a law license...yet...so think I'm on solid ground doing that as long as I'm not in his courtroom.

If you have a bar card you just can't go around telling judges to go fuck themselves and there are some good reasons for that.
Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Y274z)

It's a shame, really, considering how finely honed my profanity has become through my years hanging around this place.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at May 12, 2020 08:16 PM (NWiLs)

477 Impeach his Ass. Oh Wait, That would take testicular fortitude on the art of Republican Senators.

You Know...B*lls.

Posted by: John McKenna at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (/PTwy)

478 IMHO -



If this results in a withdrawal of the guilty plea then on to trial - this could be a good thing. A very, very good thing.



Depositions, open court testimony for ALL the bigguns, middluns littluns.



I think that would be an excellent outcome.

Posted by: phaedrus at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (Mf0t2)

============================
What lala land are you living in? The DOJ has dropped all charges with prejudice. The idea of even going to trial is ludicrous. As others have said - Sullivan can sentence Flynn tomorrow if he wanted to. And then Flynn can appeal to a more, hopefully, rational court and win. I wouldn't be surprised if the DOJ submitted an amicus brief on his behalf. Sullivan wants this -thing- to drag on until after the election.

Posted by: mrp at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (Pqytn)

479 Sullivan knows what he is going to do. This has nothing to do with that. He wants to make a show for some reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (ZLI7S)

Judy: but we have to do something to save the Party!

Mickey Rooney Sullivan: I know, lets put on a SHOW!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (NgKpN)

480 He's looking for amicus briefs to say that and cite as proof

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 12, 2020 08:05 PM (QLUrq)

AB's are not proof in a court, they are opinions to be considered. It's like letting any injured party have a say in sentencing...it's completely bullshit because the injured party - (ie the United States is the injured party, hence "The United States vs M.Flynn") withdrew their claim...this judge is about to get it good and hard by the appellate - mostly it should come down to dunking on him in their sheer bewilderment as to...ahem...his mental incompetence to render a correct judgement here.

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (32YRo)

481 Talk about deep fucking state!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (CjFDo)

482 445 Posted by: Matthew Thullen
Not that I don't like new commenters but here is another never before seen one giving a similar out to this story as "Patrick Jennings".


Lawyers gotta lawyer.

Dude, whatever. Stop getting your panties in a wad over a simple required procedural order on submission of amicus briefs--briefs that will probably amount to a fart in a hurricane.

Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (LoFQJ)

483 John Deere commercial kicking ASS!

The LAND is still going.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (vDlBn)

484 Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

He did say leave him alone.


LOL. I didn't text him at home.

Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (Ed8Zd)

485 Patrick Jennings...what kind of chance do you give a petition for a writ of mandamus to the DC district? Judge irresponsibly speculated on the record that defendant committed treason, asked prosecutor why treason isn't on the charge sheet. Judge has refused to rule in a timely manner in defendant's request to change his plea. Judge has castigated defense counsel for demanding information her client is entitled to, made sweeping declarations about the non-existence of such evidence which have since been proven wrong. The evidence does exist, and was not turned over. Now the judge refuses to rule in a timely manner on a prosecution procedural motion that inures to the ultimate benefit of the defendant. Seems to me a very strong argument for an order from the appellate bench to the judge: charge dismissed.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 08:18 PM (ja/kn)

486 Posted by: Patrick Jennings


With all due respect, counselor?


GFY.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:18 PM (vDlBn)

487 Sullivan knows what he is going to do. This has nothing to do with that. He wants to make a show for some reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (ZLI7S)

This is no mystery. The Left has been putting on a show for years. They never stop. Even when you have them DTR.

Posted by: ... at May 12, 2020 08:18 PM (uEbPt)

488 https://preview.tinyurl.com/yasfhto5

Yeah, but Garcetti is backing off since he got an earful

https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybtm8z35

Posted by: InCali at May 12, 2020 08:19 PM (mimgE)

489 "459 Sullivan knows what he is going to do. This has nothing to do with that. He wants to make a show for some reason.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (ZLI7S)

There can only be one reason...to make political hay attacking Barr and PDT."

IF I actually thought the Durham investigation would produce substantive indictments, I would think #ResistanceJudge is dirtying up Barr before his Deep State buddies get hauled into other courtrooms. Regardless of motive, the purpose of this minute order is to elicit public criticism of Barr. It is disgusting and cowardly.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 08:19 PM (puu6v)

490 Talk about deep fucking state! <<<<
And cold too!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:19 PM (r+sAi)

491 Between the Wuhu flu and this shit, I can barely keep my emotions in check.

Fuck all the treasonous, lying fucking fuckers.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 08:19 PM (ptqGC)

492 Hearing rumors that California is staying lovked down until August. Trying to track down the story.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:11 PM (8mOxN)


Insty says LA County locked down through July.

https://tinyurl.com/y759mbbv

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 12, 2020 08:19 PM (2JVJo)

493 >>LOL. I didn't text him at home.

Universal blog rules are that you can make a statement and then demand nobody respond to you.

It's the law.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (ZLI7S)

494 462 There is nothing that shows this is irregular. I think it is prudent by the judge to shield a decision he may make to dismiss the case from attack.

Discuss among yourselves and leave me alone.
Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:06 PM (LoFQJ)

Attack by who? There is no party who can attack his dismissal.

Unless you mean attack by the press/Obama-ites.
Posted by: LASue at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (Ed8Zd)

And NOT irregular?

Yeah, just because its never done?

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (NgKpN)

495 Flynns lawyers quickly opposed Judge Emmet Sullivans unusual action, saying in a filing that court rules do not allow it, and that the judge had two dozen times previously in the case summarily refused to permit any third party to inject themselves or their views into this cases

Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (85Gof)

496 And lawyers wonder why they're pretty much universally despised.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (tjRMO)

497 Those tinyurls at 488 are to articles about the 3 more month lockdown in Cali. I'm ready to move, but who in their right mind would buy a house in Cali??!!

Posted by: InCali at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (mimgE)

498 493 >>LOL. I didn't text him at home.

Universal blog rules are that you can make a statement and then demand nobody respond to you.

It's the law.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (ZLI7S)

Overruled!

Posted by: Peruvian Judge at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (NgKpN)

499 Tucker is going over pelosi bill that has 1800 pages with the wishyest of the dem wish list evah. Sure its DOA.


But we better win the damn election for Prez, House and Senate this fall or we will be totally fucked.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM
*************
I am outraged. There should be absolutely no compromise on any of this garbage.
I guess I'll be making phone calls tomorrow.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (wiXsO)

500 Tucker is beating Fauci's stupid ass.



Where are you fuckheads who called Tucker a "Deep Stater"and a "Russian plant"?

We have few friends. Tucker is one.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (vDlBn)

501 Tucker has been on fire recently.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 08:21 PM (ptqGC)

502 Another thing I've noted in my legal journey....Article III judges are very possessive of their sinecure. They let you know where they are in this world.

Frankly, it would suck to be a judge and hear about man's depravity to man every damn day...

That said this Judge Sullivan has a screw loose. There is NOTHING to indicate Lt' Gen. Flynn EVER did anything with intent to break the law.

Sullivan could have thrown out this case on his OWN motion. The fella is odious in using this latest 'trick' to subvert the law.

Hopefully the appellate court shuts this Schiffshow down before it brings MORE disrepute on the courts.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:22 PM (Y274z)

503 I jerk off to gay midget porn. It's not irregular.

Posted by: Jatrick Pennings at May 12, 2020 08:22 PM (H5knJ)

504 Seems to me a very strong argument for an order from the appellate bench to the judge: charge dismissed.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 08:18 PM (ja/kn)

Indeed - you couldn't have set yourself up for a stronger rebuke as a judge than Sullivan seems to be doing here. But why? There is absolutely no reason to blow your career brains into obscure footnote retirement as a federal judge over this open and shut dismissal, none at all..

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 08:22 PM (32YRo)

505 FBI has been collecting kompromat on everyone for decades? We suspect, or joke, about that with Roberts ... why not with everyone that rises to higher power ... Either Epstein Island videos, or whatever ... "wiretapping" Trump Tower ... to get kompromat ... if they don't get it, they fabricate it.


"I'm the FBI guy, they will believe me, you either cooperate or go to jail" that was from a Lee Smith and Chris Farrell interview with Gorka, speaking of the arrogance and corruption of the stupid FBI, cued up here.


https://tinyurl.com/ycmybwf3

Posted by: illiniwek at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (Cus5s)

506 Between the Wuhu flu and this shit, I can barely keep my emotions in check.

Fuck all the treasonous, lying fucking fuckers.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 08:19 PM (ptqGC)


**hugs**

Same here, dear lady.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (2JVJo)

507 Flynns lawyers quickly opposed Judge Emmet Sullivans unusual action, saying in a filing that court rules do not allow it, and that the judge had two dozen times previously in the case summarily refused to permit any third party to inject themselves or their views into this cases
Posted by: Nevergiveup at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (85Gof)


Looking more and more like this MF Sullivan, is senile

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (M+Lyo)

508 496 And lawyers wonder why they're pretty much universally despised.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (tjRMO)


I ponder, yet again, the wisdom of William Shakespeare in Henry VI, Part 2.


Except I'd make an exception for Insom!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (jnM20)

509 >>This is no mystery. The Left has been putting on a show for years. They never stop. Even when you have them DTR.

Are friends of Flynn not allowed to file briefs? Friends with facts that haven't been produced to the court that might make an impact on the public if not the court?

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (ZLI7S)

510 But we better win the damn election for Prez, House and Senate this fall or we will be totally fucked.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM


Then we're already fucked.

If our freedom depends on the outcome of elections - its all over. Then the concept of a Constitution failed.

Spoiler Alert - I think it's failed.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (tjRMO)

511 I wouldn't mind giving Fauci a boot but he's a shrimp. It would be like fighting a girl.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (Y274z)

512 465
I am sick to my fucking stomach.



Why ? Honestly ?



This shit has been going for decades. Literally. Why be sick now ?

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (tjRMO)

This. There is a joker meme going around. This are not getting worse. They are just getting more apparent. Or words to that effect.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 08:24 PM (KnJdm)

513 Fauci's and Fredo the Elder's voices are like nails on a chalkboard to me.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 08:24 PM (ptqGC)

514 haha

Tucker: " all references to Dr. Fauci must be preceded by 'With Great Respect'... according to Federal law"

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:24 PM (vDlBn)

515 Lawyers gotta lawyer.

Dude, whatever. Stop getting your panties in a wad over a simple required procedural order on submission of amicus briefs--briefs that will probably amount to a fart in a hurricane.
Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (LoFQJ)



Please provide a citation to the Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure which allows, let alone requires, that submission of amicus briefs.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 08:24 PM (GbPPJ)

516 The craziest thing to comprehend is that, I believe Flynn was supposed to be sentenced in March of 2019 and it kept getting put off for various reasons.

And now this?

So Flynn gets to dangle in the wind for a couple more months while the machine keeps masticating on what's left of him.

This is fucking bullshit.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 12, 2020 08:25 PM (xXJfx)

517 Test

Posted by: Biff at May 12, 2020 08:25 PM (d47tD)

518 I wouldn't mind giving Fauci a boot but he's a shrimp. It would be like fighting a girl.
Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (Y274z)


Watch out, he knows Kung Flu and Flu Jitsu.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 12, 2020 08:26 PM (M+Lyo)

519 Tucker is ripping that little turd Fauci.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 08:26 PM (ptqGC)

520 Test
Posted by: Biff at May 12, 2020 08:25 PM (d47tD)

GUILTY!

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at May 12, 2020 08:26 PM (M+Lyo)

521
512 465
I am sick to my fucking stomach.



Why ? Honestly ?



This shit has been going for decades. Literally. Why be sick now ?

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (tjRMO)

This. There is a joker meme going around. This are not getting worse. They are just getting more apparent. Or words to that effect.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at May 12, 2020 08:24 PM (KnJdm)
*************
TDS has brought their inner demon to the surface.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2020 08:28 PM (wiXsO)

522 "509 >>This is no mystery. The Left has been putting on a show for years. They never stop. Even when you have them DTR.

Are friends of Flynn not allowed to file briefs? Friends with facts that haven't been produced to the court that might make an impact on the public if not the court?"

Sullivan cites some specific language from the local rules to allow discretionary amicus briefs to be filed when a party is not "competently represented." Apparently that party, in Sullivan's mind, is the United States, i.e., Barr is incompetent.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 12, 2020 08:28 PM (puu6v)

523 I realize that there are smarter people among us. JackStraw and alexthechick are in fact, brilliant .


I am just an American dipshit asshole. I didn't vote for most of these motherfuckers and yet they have the power to fuck up my world.


I thought the Constitution protected us dumbasses against that.


No?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at May 12, 2020 08:28 PM (vDlBn)

524 >>There is nothing that shows this is irregular. I think it is prudent by the judge to shield a decision he may make to dismiss the case from attack.

The injured party in the case withdrew. You can't allow people who are not considered a legal party or have an injury suggested in the evidence presented in the case to opine. You might as well let the Horde or Ace have a say...what say, Ace/Horde?

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 08:28 PM (32YRo)

525 Tucker is ripping that little turd Fauci.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 12, 2020 08:26 PM (ptqGC)
***********
Tucker is must see TV tonight.

Posted by: redridinghood at May 12, 2020 08:29 PM (wiXsO)

526 152 It is possible that the judge is being very clever here. The progressives screamed when this got dropped - he's giving them a chance to make their best case against dropping the charges, legally, in court.

Naturally, considering the exculpatory materiel produced by the DOJ, whatever the progressives say is going to be hot garbage. The judge will rule that their friend of the court brief is hot garbage, and dismiss.

This actually helps Barr and Flynn. The progressives will have a hard time arguing this was just Barr's decision - they had their shot. it also forces them to confront the exculpatory evidence - try to explain it away. They can't and won't. Also because this is a brief to the court, they can't just lie and make up shit like they normally do. If they do the judge is able to point by point eviscerate their arguments. If they don;t file, it looks even worse for them.

So, for the progressives, this is likely a no win situation.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at May 12, 2020 07:30 PM (8Xxh3)
===================

Interesting take, but I wonder if it's just a delaying tactic. Maybe Sullivan just wants to drag this out so Trump gets tired of the game and just pardons Flynn. That way Flynn would always be politically 'stained' by this -- no real exoneration in many people's minds. And Obama would not be stained. I think Sullivan is very concerned that Obama himself was involved in framing Flynn, and is willing to throw himself on the petard to protect Obama, and maybe even Biden.

Posted by: starboardhelm at May 12, 2020 08:29 PM (hOtJL)

527

@422 - thathalfrican (hope I got that right)

Think all electronic communication.
Think about them hearing you talking, e en if you're not on your phone.
Hell, they have their conversations when they were trying to use a by invitation only, online game for their "secure comms."

Posted by: TeeJ at May 12, 2020 08:29 PM (l1wsb)

528 UPDATED
508 496 And lawyers wonder why they're pretty much universally despised.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:20 PM (tjRMO)

I ponder, yet again, the wisdom of William Shakespeare in Henry VI, Part 2.


Except I'd make an exception for Insom!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:23 PM (jnM20)

515

AND alexthechick

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:30 PM (jnM20)

529 I thought the Constitution protected us dumbasses against that.

No?


No.

It's a piece of paper with ideas and rules. Those in power determine those rules.

Constitution - it turns out - gives some of us a false sense of security.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:31 PM (tjRMO)

530 Thanks TeeJ

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at May 12, 2020 08:31 PM (IYHxL)

531 But we better win the damn election for Prez, House and Senate this fall or we will be totally fucked.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM

Then we're already fucked.

If our freedom depends on the outcome of elections - its all over. Then the concept of a Constitution failed.

Spoiler Alert - I think it's failed.
Posted by: I Have No Party


If Trump loses, any and all prosecutions of Russiagate and anyone connected with it ends.

Dem president will pick a dem AG and it will end toot sweet.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:32 PM (8mOxN)

532 This is the first thread comments I can remember that turned into a lawyer fight. I hope it's not the last.

Posted by: Splunge at May 12, 2020 08:32 PM (dOV9E)

533 Read the Sullivan attachment by Techno Fog.
The D.C. Courts have a local rule that Sullivan is using to shoehorn in the amicus briefs.

That Rule probably has never been tested in an appellate court.

Our Rage Bunny is correct that the Criminal Courts are not courts to be used by non-parties to the action and so what Sullivan is doing.....is stretching out an inevitable dismissal of the case.

The PROCESS IS THE PUNISHMENT.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:32 PM (Y274z)

534 Biff

Watch it. That's too goddamn close to socking me.

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 12, 2020 08:32 PM (VcFUs)

535 Arizona Gov. Ducey: Stay-at-home order to expire May 15

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 12, 2020 08:32 PM (Lrula)

536 AND alexthechick

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:30 PM (jnM20)

Most lawyers, including AtC, are as mystified by the reasoning as anyone else. Federal judges have wide latitude to do what they like quite often, but none do just what they like because they like their upward careers as Federal judges. Sullivan is acting like a first year law student would act if given a federal judgeship - and its ugly to watch.

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 08:33 PM (32YRo)

537 Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:23 <<<<<
You can vote your way in, but you have to shoot your way out is how I believe the saying goes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 12, 2020 08:34 PM (r+sAi)

538 Tucker may be trying to make up for being so hysterical about the deadly flu. He had to drive all night!

Posted by: artemis at May 12, 2020 08:34 PM (AwPyG)

539 Most lawyers, including AtC, are as mystified by the reasoning as anyone
else. Federal judges have wide latitude to do what they like quite
often, but none do just what they like because they like their upward
careers as Federal judges. Sullivan is acting like a first year law
student would act if given a federal judgeship - and its ugly to watch.
======================
Sullivan is 72 or 73 years old.

Posted by: mrp at May 12, 2020 08:35 PM (Pqytn)

540 The Constitution, and civilization, is gone if we don't re-elect President Trump and retake congress. If we do re-elect President Trump and retake congress we have 2 years to save the world. Just 2 years to get rid of the left and the rinos. Do we have the balls to do this? That is the question of the hour.

Posted by: Eromero at May 12, 2020 08:35 PM (XhWtx)

541 Quarantine is nood.


http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=387232#Bot

Posted by: BifBewalski - sinis est culus at May 12, 2020 08:37 PM (VcFUs)

542 If Trump loses, any and all prosecutions of Russiagate and anyone connected with it ends.

Dem president will pick a dem AG and it will end toot sweet.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 12, 2020 08:32 PM (8mOxN)


Yeah.

But given the pace of all this - there won't be anything decided by 2024 in any court. So even if Trump wins - we all lose.

No GOP or DNC winner will keep any of this going once Trump is gone.

So what, exactly, is the end game ? I like Donald - but he's just making a big show of kicking the can.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:37 PM (tjRMO)

543 Posted by: TeeJ at May 12, 2020 08:29 PM (l1wsb)

Think "Alexa", funded by your taxpayer dollars administered by corrupt bureaucrats, always on and listening no matter where you are.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar - YOU are all in it together! - at May 12, 2020 08:38 PM (jnM20)

544 >>Sullivan cites some specific language from the local rules to allow discretionary amicus briefs to be filed when a party is not "competently represented." Apparently that party, in Sullivan's mind, is the United States, i.e., Barr is incompetent.

Flynn has already replaced his counsel and since they have been replaced they have finally produced thousands of pages of evidence, some of which is damning against the prosecution. It is clear that Covington did not provide competent representation.

Sullivan not only lives on this planet in lives in the DC metro area. He knows what's going on and what this trial means. He knows that there is potential evidence that Flynn was entrapped and it was done for a bigger reason. And he knows no matter what he says Flynn is walking and a much, much bigger case is coming.

Even if Sullivan is corrupt, sorry, not buying this is just a simple act of #Resistance. That makes no sense.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:39 PM (ZLI7S)

545 485 Patrick Jennings...what kind of chance do you give a petition for a writ of mandamus to the DC district? Judge irresponsibly speculated on the record that defendant committed treason, asked prosecutor why treason isn't on the charge sheet. Judge has refused to rule in a timely manner in defendant's request to change his plea. Judge has castigated defense counsel for demanding information her client is entitled to, made sweeping declarations about the non-existence of such evidence which have since been proven wrong. The evidence does exist, and was not turned over. Now the judge refuses to rule in a timely manner on a prosecution procedural motion that inures to the ultimate benefit of the defendant. Seems to me a very strong argument for an order from the appellate bench to the judge: charge dismissed.

I am not up to speed on criminal procedure. A resort to a petition for a writ of mandamus presupposes that the judge will not allow dismissal. I am betting on dismissal (but it is always risky to predict what a judge will do). Hope it does not come to a petition for a writ of mandamus, or some other action.

I can't comment on the action of the judge as described by you. Normally, judges don't look kindly on a defendant who attempts to withdraw a guilty plea at the sentencing phase, and won't allow re-litigation of a case at that point. I don't know how much of the exculpatory evidence the judge had seen at the point of the actions you describe. You have to remember that the judge had a DOJ prosecutor who was representing (improperly) that the Government had done nothing wrong and had already provided all exculpatory evidence to the court. That prosecutor is gone (and in big trouble).

Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:39 PM (LoFQJ)

546 Ed Henry is saying on Fox that Grenell has 4 or 5 other batches of intel to declassify. He also hears that it could get 'sticky for Brennan'.

Brennan held back intel that said Russia wanted Clinton to win. He also had intel that said Russia wanted Trump to win. He held back the 'Clinton to win' intel and pushed for the the 'Trump to win' intel.

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 08:40 PM (cF8AT)

547 for = forth

Posted by: Tami at May 12, 2020 08:41 PM (cF8AT)

548

Commisar Hrothgar

Yep. Except you don't have to say Hey Alexa.

Posted by: TeeJ at May 12, 2020 08:41 PM (l1wsb)

549 Please provide a citation to the Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure which allows, let alone requires, that submission of amicus briefs.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 12, 2020 08:24 PM (GbPPJ)
*************
Sullivan is subverting the procedure by citing a local rukle that allows him to cirmvent the FRCP.

Read the Technofog piece supra. He makes a compelling case why he can do this. He's full of Schiiff....maybe that fag has been boning him.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:42 PM (Y274z)

550 Very nice, but not convincing. At all. Sullivan had a choice : The Rule of Law or protect Barry. That's it. Sullivan should have at least read the relevant documents, and the documents are damning for the corrupt prosecution (and the probably corrupt first Flynn team). Occam's Razor.

Posted by: mrp


Ahh, but the thing is, the more Amicus Briefs that are filed (and Mark Levin will file one) on the Flynn side, the more evidence that will make it into the public record that shows exactly what Obama did to order the Flynn Frame-up.

Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2020 08:43 PM (BM2fS)

551 Wrinkle + rule = rukle

I just invented that!

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:43 PM (Y274z)

552 Even if Sullivan is corrupt, sorry, not buying this is just a simple act of #Resistance. That makes no sense.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:39 PM (ZLI7S)


You're making your usual mistake.

Sullivan is not playing the game the same way you would - because Sullivan sees winning and losing differently than you. In effect - Sullivan is playing a different game on a board that only shares a few squares with your board.

Jack - for crying out loud - quit watching everything and telling yourself "I wouldn't have made that move". Start watching and asking yourself "Why did they make that move ?".

If you can do that - you'll discover an entirely new realm of motivations and strategies.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:43 PM (tjRMO)

553 Didn't the SCOTUS just slap down the 9th circuit for doing this exact same thing, inviting in parties not part of the case?

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at May 12, 2020 08:44 PM (af5xa)

554 This is where the 2000 DOJ Anti-Barr will be introduced into court.

Posted by: Riley Reed at May 12, 2020 08:44 PM (p0Y1J)

555 I hope I don't get censored here.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:44 PM (9F+/Z)

556 Here's how Sullivan can do this. The guilty plea has been tendered, so there is no reason to try the case on the merits. Sullivan can deny the MTD, and order that the matter proceed to sentencing. DOJ can then say they decline to prosecute. Sullivan then says fine. We'll proceed without you. Mr. Flynn, you need to appear on the appointed date or else your bond will be forfeited and you will be arrested on a warrant.

The date of sentencing, the prosecution may either fail to appear, or appear and stand mute. Sullivan can then rely on pre-sentence reports and defense arguments. Then he can sentence Flynn to whatever he wants according to the Federal Court grid.

I think it's within his blighted authority to do all of the above.

Asking for amicus briefs from just one side the issue is, in my opinion, a flagrant violation of due process and deprives Flynn of effective assistance of counsel.

Oh. And Sullivan should be assigned to handling forest service and national park traffic cases.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 12, 2020 08:44 PM (Zyp4N)

557 Phew I'm here

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:45 PM (9F+/Z)

558 >>If you can do that - you'll discover an entirely new realm of motivations and strategies.

If I listened to you we wouldn't be on the verge of indictments when you said nothing would happen.

I think I'll stick with my own opinions.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:47 PM (ZLI7S)

559 You watch, Sullivan won't allow Flynn's side to file any new briefs.

I'm waiting for his reasoning on that.

Every day more crap comes out on how Flynn got framed. Eventually someone in on the con flips and turns state's evidence to save THEIR family from financial ruin.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:47 PM (Y274z)

560 got the boot from a couple of sites already. I shall name them at a later date, lest I get censored here too....lol

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:47 PM (9F+/Z)

561 Ahh, but the thing is, the more Amicus Briefs that are filed (and Mark Levin will file one) on the Flynn side, the more evidence that will make it into the public record that shows exactly what Obama did to order the Flynn Frame-up.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 12, 2020 08:43 PM (BM2fS)

---------------

They all think they are the Road Runner when in fact they are Wile E Coyote.

Posted by: Decaf at May 12, 2020 08:47 PM (xarPm)

562 Wasn't Amicus Scouts and Jems lawyer dad?

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in California at May 12, 2020 08:48 PM (FnwlK)

563 long time Ace reader and fan. A newbie to the comment circuit here.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:49 PM (9F+/Z)

564 Oh. And Sullivan should be assigned to handling forest service and national park traffic cases.
Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 12, 2020 08:44 PM (Zyp4N)
**************
Sullivan should be tried and convicted of giving aid and comfort to our enemies and given a choice of a Kool or a Marlboro at dawn.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:50 PM (Y274z)

565 515 Lawyers gotta lawyer.

Dude, whatever. Stop getting your panties in a wad over a simple required procedural order on submission of amicus briefs--briefs that will probably amount to a fart in a hurricane.
Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:17 PM (LoFQJ)


Please provide a citation to the Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure which allows, let alone requires, that submission of amicus briefs.

The total lack of knowledge of civil and criminal procedure in most of the comments, including yours, is stunning. No wonder our Republic is in danger.

READ THE DAMN SUMMARY OF THE COURT ORDER. All the citations of legal authority and precedent is there. The judge cites THE COURT'S RULES, AND HE CITES THE CASE PRECEDENT FOR ALLOWING AMICUS BRIEFS IN CRIMINAL CASES. He also explains the standard (looks pretty difficult to me) for accepting an amicus brief.

Posted by: Patrick Jennings at May 12, 2020 08:50 PM (LoFQJ)

566 Here's my speculation as to why the Dishonorable Judge Sullivan is pulling this stunt. There are a lot of documents under seal in this case that are damning to his political allies, and he wants to keep them under seal for as long as he can. If the prosecution goes away, do his protection orders.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 12, 2020 08:51 PM (Zyp4N)

567 If I listened to you we wouldn't be on the verge of indictments when you said nothing would happen.

You are setting yourself up for an epic letdown. Of course, growth only comes through pain.

Enjoy.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:51 PM (tjRMO)

568 563 long time Ace reader and fan. A newbie to the comment circuit here.
Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:49 PM (9F+/Z)
************
Copy that.

Wecome to the party, Pal.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:51 PM (Y274z)

569 This has been one of the most fascinating threads I've seen in AOS in 15 years of browsing. Not pretending I understand it all, but very enjoyable to see what the lawyers have to say.

Posted by: Caliban at May 12, 2020 08:51 PM (QE8X6)

570 >>You are setting yourself up for an epic letdown. Of course, growth only comes through pain.

>>Enjoy.

Thanks.

Look forward to you being here the day the indictments drop.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:52 PM (ZLI7S)

571 Powell has to put pressure on Sullivan. A writ petition is the way to do it. Even the appellate court returning it to Sullivan serves a good purpose, especially a well-written petition joined by DOJ. Sullivan needs some oversight.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 08:53 PM (ja/kn)

572 Sullivan should be tried and convicted of giving aid and comfort to our enemies and given a choice of a Kool or a Marlboro at dawn.
Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:50 PM (Y274z)

That, too.

Posted by: ObjectionSustained at May 12, 2020 08:53 PM (Zyp4N)

573 I guess I'm aka 9f+/z. amirite?

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:53 PM (9F+/Z)

574 560 got the boot from a couple of sites already. I shall name them at a later date, lest I get censored here too....lol
Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:47 PM (9F+/Z)
***************
One of Ace's Rules is : no running with scissors.

Posted by: torabora at May 12, 2020 08:54 PM (Y274z)

575 563 long time Ace reader and fan. A newbie to the comment circuit here.

Welcome Randy from a similar newbie. They seem like pretty nice people. Just don't break any of their Byzantine rules. There are many!

Posted by: Anonymous Guy in California at May 12, 2020 08:54 PM (FnwlK)

576 yes agree with torbora, and quartered and drawn like a good cowboy.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:55 PM (9F+/Z)

577 Sidney Powell in her rebuttal just now quotes Sullivan's own words earlier in this same case saying third party amicus briefs have no place in his court.

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1260368540722442240

Posted by: Jose at May 12, 2020 08:55 PM (L9Ewk)

578 Look forward to you being here the day the indictments drop.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:52 PM (ZLI7S)


Been hearing about this Steiner-like wave of indictments for years now.

It takes a faithful man to believe in 'em. I ain't much on faith. Or astrology.

But keep on believing Jack. You seem to need to. You only run into pushback when you try to talk everyone else in believing along with you.

Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:57 PM (tjRMO)

579 To Anonymous Guy, Well, I'm a Christian and I am familiar with Byzantine. And thanks for the welcome.
Fellow California-Hawaiian guy here.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 08:58 PM (9F+/Z)

580 Whatever Scogg.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 12, 2020 08:59 PM (ZLI7S)

581 https://www.facebook.com/JennaEllisEsq45/photos/a.1616209511964970/2527625970823315/?type=3&theater

This is why I was confused. The judge seems to rely on the rules for civil procedure, not criminal.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at May 12, 2020 08:59 PM (c7Has)

582 looks like it's easier to address my fellow comrades to use the aka symbols if ya'all don't mind it or thats part of the "rules".

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:00 PM (9F+/Z)

583 is there a shortcut to reply to your messages?

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:03 PM (9F+/Z)

584 So, you apparently can't actually file amicus briefs in criminal cases.

Only civil.

This will get slapped down at the appellate level at worst.

Posted by: @PeeteySDee at May 12, 2020 09:03 PM (9Z95H)

585 ok let me know if running of my mouth and no grammar police ok

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:06 PM (9F+/Z)

586 @9z, so how is he getting away with this violation of protocol?

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:07 PM (9F+/Z)

587 I have no problem with cussing if that a rule.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:08 PM (9F+/Z)

588 I feel like a puppy just opening his eyes here.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:09 PM (9F+/Z)

589 I think the leftists are trying to bait us into starting the shooting. Judge Sullivan is doing something unprecedented in legal history which is legally outrageous.

Posted by: An Observation at May 12, 2020 09:09 PM (lUR07)

590 584 So, you apparently can't actually file amicus briefs in criminal cases.

Only civil.

This will get slapped down at the appellate level at worst.
Posted by: @PeeteySDee at May 12, 2020 09:03 PM (9Z95H)

***

This is correct. A court cannot invite random members of the general public to "prosecute" an American citizen when the government has decided not to. This is a motion for a TRO/stay and an appeal away from a bitch slapping - as any appellate panel will likely issue a sweeping and demeaning to Sullivan order stating just that. The order is absurd on it's face and the judge should be impeached.

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 12, 2020 09:11 PM (W0S9L)

591 *its face, not "it's"

Posted by: Publius Redux at May 12, 2020 09:12 PM (W0S9L)

592 450 Thanks Crunchyroll, another 63 episodes of City Hunter released.


Posted by: Anna Puma at May 12, 2020 08:12 PM (6taT0)Nice! I really like City Hunter! Have your ever checked out the follow-up series Angel Heart? It's also excellent!A little sad, too, for reasons I won't go into because spoilers. But it is great!

Posted by: Prothonotary Warbler at May 12, 2020 09:24 PM (H3MF8)

593 Trump should NOT pardon Flynn. The charges will eventually get dismissed, and the pleading thrown out.

This will also allow Flynn to sue the DOJ.

Posted by: Biscuits Mahoney at May 12, 2020 09:25 PM (emO+i)

594 This is a move to force Trump to pardon Flynn, just to add another "corrupt, rogue President" log on the fire.

Posted by: Rusty Nail at May 12, 2020 09:25 PM (I99aF)

595 Jack Straw, if you're still on this thread please answer me this:
Do you believe this judge is incorporating this sort of method due to the seriousness of the charges brought and the high profile case? Also, do you suspect Sullivan has the feeling he may have been duped and wants to understand why his time has been wasted?
I did not read the minutes of the order but it would seem to me that because he has shown fury in the past at corrupt prosecutors, one must draw the conclusion that this is him throwing his hands up in the air and asking if there exists ANY evidence at all for this case to proceed.
Finally, if such friends of the court or whatever filing is made, does Powell get to respond or does sentencing now rely solely on this (what appears to me) as a hail mary?

Thanks.
I am now going to indulge in some whiskey and gorilla glue.. this day SUCKS

Posted by: Getcha Pull at May 12, 2020 09:28 PM (aR6C/)

596 Weird he would do this, as JUST LAST WEEK, SCOTUS through the sick RBG, announced the 9th Circuit went to far when it similarly requested amici briefs in a case. The 9th asked for briefs on issues not raised by the parties. 9-0 SCOTUS said, "too far, man."

Posted by: Lost in Space at May 12, 2020 09:32 PM (Kpbco)

597 Posted by: Publius Redux at May 12, 2020 09:11

Agreed, if anyone needs to be impeached it's Sullivan.

How are things in HK?

Posted by: Farmer at May 12, 2020 09:34 PM (BPHer)

598 Theres a new rat virus in HK.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:36 PM (9F+/Z)

599 @ar, you just started singing that the levee song.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:37 PM (9F+/Z)

600 #590 who can impeach this judge?

Posted by: AnnaS at May 12, 2020 09:40 PM (l4l/z)

601 @em0 , I did not know that angle about a pardon and a subsequent actionable lawsuit. Good point.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:40 PM (9F+/Z)

602 @l4l, Chief Justice Roberts should have say.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:41 PM (9F+/Z)

603 No, it's not impeachable.

Posted by:�alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around.�at May 12, 2020 07:38 PM (GbPPJ)


Oh, come on. Impeachment is a political process and is whatever Congress says it is. He can certainly be impeached.

Posted by: Ace's liver at May 12, 2020 09:48 PM (wGeit)

604 who can impeach this judge?

Sole power of impeachment is held by the House of Representatives.

Posted by: An Observation at May 12, 2020 09:49 PM (YFue0)

605 is there a shortcut to reply to your messages?
Ahh copy and paste I got it.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:50 PM (9F+/Z)

606 Sullivan needs some oversight.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at May 12, 2020 08:53 PM (ja/kn)

I thought this might be the most effective - let Sullivan have his 'sentencing statements' which is what the AB's are meant for in a realistic since, have it sent to appellate review and then remand it back for reconsideration at the lower court - that is the way you embarrass this fuck.

Posted by: Boswell at May 12, 2020 09:51 PM (32YRo)

607 Sole power of impeachment is held by the House of Representatives.

I thought it was the Senate to convict and impeach anyone in the other two branches. The House writes the Articles of Impeachment and the Senate holds a trial you guys know the drill.

Posted by: randy in rocklin at May 12, 2020 09:52 PM (9F+/Z)

608 Democrats are just not happy without their lynch mobs.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 12, 2020 10:16 PM (ABuva)

609 Don't you file amicus curiae BEFORE the verdict?

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at May 12, 2020 10:26 PM (ABuva)

610 Posted by: I Have No Party at May 12, 2020 08:14 PM (tjRMO)

*****

Did you used to have the nic "ScoggDog"?

Thanks.

Posted by: El Jefe at May 12, 2020 10:37 PM (Ae67h)

611 Nothing sounds more Orwellian than someone intentionally naming themselves project Democracy. They're definitely in the "Democracy is a train that you take until you get to your stop, and then you get off," camp.

Posted by: DaveM at May 12, 2020 11:08 PM (WWC3Y)

612 The odds that one of Durham's indictments has E. Sullivan's name on it are not zero. There could be other crooked judges too.

Posted by: Whitehall at May 12, 2020 11:27 PM (jRzPr)

613 Judge can't order the prosecution to prosecute. Total abuse of discretion and separation of powers. Government brings the case and the judge is the referee. Not to mention the amount if non-disclosed exculpatory evidence shows prosecutorial misconduct and is grounds for a new trial.

Posted by: Moon Knight at May 12, 2020 11:31 PM (0ksYS)

614 Well, we never should have gotten rid of that tar and feather thing.

Posted by: RobinKaty at May 12, 2020 11:33 PM (eFAZh)

615 Actually, Sullivan accused Flynn of being a traitor when Flynn first pled GUILTY. Made half-assed apology after lunch.

And I have a hunch the Deep State is starting to play the "Piss Trump off, and tempt him to obstruct" game again. But Donny knows his Tsun Tzu.

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at May 12, 2020 11:51 PM (WX0+d)

616 Next time in court, the Justice lawyers should sit at the defense table and refuse to support further prosecution in any manner. Sullivan is a proving what we all pretty much knew: he is no more a "judge" than is the nearest lamp-post. He is a political hack and should be run off the court.

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