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Media Offers No Apologies As Georgia -- Which They Scolded for Practicing "Human Sacrifice" in Reopening -- Posts Lowest COVID Numbers In a Month
There won’t be any contrition. There won’t be any apology. But they’ll pretend to wonder why people don’t trust them. pic.twitter.com/zk77QNUqCE
— Jon Levine (@LevineJonathan) May 10, 2020
The tone of the many media reactions to Erickson, Carlson, Trump, Georgia governor Brian Kemp, and others who've suggested lockdowns and strict shelter-in-place laws are either unnecessary or do more harm than good, fits with what writer Thomas Frank describes as a new "Utopia of Scolding":In the Trump years the sector of society we used to describe as liberal America became a giant finger-wagging machine. The news media, academia, the Democratic Party, show-business celebrities and masses of blue-checked Twitter virtuosos became a kind of umbrella agreement society, united by loathing of Trump and fury toward anyone who dissented with their preoccupations. Because this Conventional Wisdom viewed itself as being solely concerned with the Only Important Thing, i.e. removing Trump, there was no longer any legitimate excuse for disagreeing with its takes on Russia, Julian Assange, Jill Stein, Joe Rogan, the 25th amendment, Ukraine, the use of the word "treason," the removal of Alex Jones, the movie Joker, or whatever else happened to be the #Resistance fixation of the day. When the Covid-19 crisis struck, the scolding utopia was no longer abstraction. The dream was reality! Pure communism had arrived! Failure to take elite advice was no longer just a deplorable faux pas. Not heeding experts was now murder. It could not be tolerated. Media coverage quickly became a single, floridly-written tirade against "expertise-deniers." For instance, the Atlantic headline on Kemp's decision to end some shutdowns was, "Georgia's Experiment in Human Sacrifice." At the outset of the crisis, America's biggest internet platforms -- Facebook, Twitter, Google, LinkedIn, and Reddit -- took an unprecedented step to combat "fraud and misinformation" by promising extensive cooperation in elevating "authoritative" news over less reputable sources. ... We have a lot of dumb people in this country. But the difference between the stupidities cherished by the Idiocracy set ingesting fish cleaner, and the ones pushed in places like the Atlantic, is that the jackasses among the "expert" class compound their wrongness by being so sure of themselves that they force others to go along. In other words, to combat "ignorance," the scolders create a new and more virulent species of it: exclusive ignorance, forced ignorance, ignorance with staying power. ... We've become incapable of talking calmly about possible solutions because we've lost the ability to decouple scientific or policy discussions, or simple issues of fact, from a political argument. Reporting on the Covid-19 crisis has become the latest in a line of moral manias with Donald Trump in the middle. Instead of asking calmly if hydroxychloroquine works, or if the less restrictive Swedish crisis response has merit, or questioning why certain statistical assumptions about the seriousness of the crisis might have been off, we’re denouncing the questions themselves as infamous. Or we're politicizing the framing of stories in a way that signals to readers what their take should be before they even digest the material. "Conservative Americans see coronavirus hope in Progressive Sweden," reads a Politico headline, as if only conservatives should feel optimism in the possibility that a non-lockdown approach might have merit! Are we rooting for such an approach to not work?
Who needs to win elections when you can personally reestablish the social order every day on Twitter and Facebook? When you can scold, and scold, and scold. That's their future, and it’s a satisfying one: a finger wagging in some vulgar proletarian's face, forever.
To God's Ears:
38 It's over. My leftwing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, no social distancing. At least 20 people at the party drinking, laughing and talking. And these are total Karen-esque asshole lefties. I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown. When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.Commenters point out that leftist Karens have never felt any especial need to live under the strictures of the martinet rules they inflict on others.
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Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 12:29 PM (JUOKG)
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Hi.
Posted by: eastofsuez at May 11, 2020 12:30 PM (U2zca)
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Obviously Georgie needs to ban HCQ and start shipping covid positive patients into nursing homes like the heroic blue state governors.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 12:30 PM (kOpft)
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Media to start murdering people in Georgia any minute.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 11, 2020 12:30 PM (0nzky)
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Georgia Posts Lowest COVID Numbers In a Month
Could someone please send this information to Governor Evers? Thx.
Could someone please send this information to Governor Evers? Thx.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:30 PM (lwiT4)
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Being part of the FNM clique means never having to say "sorry I was wrong"
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 11, 2020 12:30 PM (T9Hmo)
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Distrust?
I hate the muthafu*kas!
I hate the muthafu*kas!
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2020 12:30 PM (axyOa)
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I have notified the others.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (0nzky)
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"Media Offers No Apologies As Georgia -- Which They Scolded for
Practicing "Human Sacrifice" in Reopening -- Posts Lowest COVID Numbers
In a Month"
My buddy from CT said the same thing this morning about Texas reopening.
He said we were reckless and will see tens of thousands dead within weeks.
Our current death toll is just over 1,000.
Practicing "Human Sacrifice" in Reopening -- Posts Lowest COVID Numbers
In a Month"
My buddy from CT said the same thing this morning about Texas reopening.
He said we were reckless and will see tens of thousands dead within weeks.
Our current death toll is just over 1,000.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (JUOKG)
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not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (LvTSG)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Id of been first but autocorrect screwed me. And not in a good way.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2020 12:32 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:32 PM (mht8P)
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There won't be any contrition. There won't be any apology.
Nor will there be any follow-up. Because it's their job. They'll do the same with the next state that threatens to open up.
There's never any follow-up. That's how you know.
Nor will there be any follow-up. Because it's their job. They'll do the same with the next state that threatens to open up.
There's never any follow-up. That's how you know.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (ZS2+d)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (mht8P)
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Meanwhile, liberal royalty Andrew Cuomo has been sending Covid patients INTO nursing homes.
Posted by: Steve Gerber at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (oVJmc)
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Georgia has the Fear of God put in them by what happened in South Georgia.
Posted by: Widespread Pepe at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (p0Y1J)
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This makes me so angry I'm shaking.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (lwiT4)
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Hadrian that's are very interesting statement
Posted by: Cheriebebe at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (Xt7n2)
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OT:
https://tinyurl.com/yavq883a
Supreme Court Will Soon Decide Whether To Reconsider Qualified Immunity.
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This excites me. Sexually.
https://tinyurl.com/yavq883a
Supreme Court Will Soon Decide Whether To Reconsider Qualified Immunity.
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This excites me. Sexually.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
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Also no apology to Florida after collectively freaking out about spring breakers.
Think they have about 5% of the Wuhan flu deaths that NY has.
Not even close.
Think they have about 5% of the Wuhan flu deaths that NY has.
Not even close.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (bDqIh)
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The New York elites continue their shameless smears, and conveniently cover for their fiefdom being the largest source by far for China Flu.
It's metaphorical for what their kind has done to America. They are rats. Lower than rats.
It's metaphorical for what their kind has done to America. They are rats. Lower than rats.
Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (TbnwU)
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*Ewok*
*Ewok*
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (EGyGV)
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The endless Debt in Kleptocracies like Illinois can only be resolved by destruction of small business, and a totalitarian New World Order where Experts must be Obeyed. The Green New Deal will give all the unemployed a guaranteed income ... all Hail Commie Big Gov.
We are now like Charlton Heston observing the statue of Liberty ... "they did it .. the MFers really did it". We are only slightly better off than that ... but we indeed moved directly into Fascist State control ... Pritzker says the beatings will continue until the the virus is completely "eradicated" (so Fascism Forever)
We are now like Charlton Heston observing the statue of Liberty ... "they did it .. the MFers really did it". We are only slightly better off than that ... but we indeed moved directly into Fascist State control ... Pritzker says the beatings will continue until the the virus is completely "eradicated" (so Fascism Forever)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Which one??
The IC model.
The Murray Model.
The current CDC model???
They are ALL so very very wrong. That asshole at Imperial College whos name escapes me at the moment should be in JAIL for publishing that drivel.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Which one??
The IC model.
The Murray Model.
The current CDC model???
They are ALL so very very wrong. That asshole at Imperial College whos name escapes me at the moment should be in JAIL for publishing that drivel.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (nw6Hr)
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Failure to take elite advice was no longer just a deplorable faux pas.
Taking their "advice" actually became fashionable.
Taking their "advice" actually became fashionable.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (EgshT)
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Maybe the media should cover Koumo the executioner
Posted by: Avi at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (kSq2k)
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Why would the media apologize?
They want mail in ballots.
They want the economy to suffer, especially the Deplorables. They still have jobs.
They want to protect the JEF and his goonsquad.
They want Trump to suffer.
They want to call the shots.
Talk about "deplorables..."
Why would the media apologize?
They want mail in ballots.
They want the economy to suffer, especially the Deplorables. They still have jobs.
They want to protect the JEF and his goonsquad.
They want Trump to suffer.
They want to call the shots.
Talk about "deplorables..."
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (x4XFu)
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Nothing to see here citizens. Go back to huddling in your domicile and watching CNN for directions on how to live your life.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (ch6++)
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (kOpft)
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OT:
https://tinyurl.com/yavq883a
Supreme Court Will Soon Decide Whether To Reconsider Qualified Immunity.
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This excites me. Sexually.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
Reading CATO article - it moved.
OT:
https://tinyurl.com/yavq883a
Supreme Court Will Soon Decide Whether To Reconsider Qualified Immunity.
------------
This excites me. Sexually.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (LvTSG)
Reading CATO article - it moved.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (N39Ws)
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Listening to Prager on the radio:
. 80% of Chinese virus deaths in Pennsylvania have been in nursing homes; and
. his producer noted that the health "experts" would have been more accurate -- and ameliorate much of the suffering and economic damage -- by labeling this is "a nursing home pandemic."
But of course, this is always, and continues to be, about getting rid of Trump.
. 80% of Chinese virus deaths in Pennsylvania have been in nursing homes; and
. his producer noted that the health "experts" would have been more accurate -- and ameliorate much of the suffering and economic damage -- by labeling this is "a nursing home pandemic."
But of course, this is always, and continues to be, about getting rid of Trump.
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (6pvkK)
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I've been trying to point out for months, look at Mexico. No distancing, no precautions, nothing much happened. A few got sick, a few died, just like every other flu year - so what.
This is why there's not going to be any "second wave" - outside of NYC, it's infected subway system and it's nursing home disease incubators, this entire thing has been a giant media fraud. Those who open fastest recover fastest, and there is NO "cost" to doing so. Just protect your damned nursing homes if you're worried about deaths.
This is why there's not going to be any "second wave" - outside of NYC, it's infected subway system and it's nursing home disease incubators, this entire thing has been a giant media fraud. Those who open fastest recover fastest, and there is NO "cost" to doing so. Just protect your damned nursing homes if you're worried about deaths.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (trdmm)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
Trump really can only work with the advice he's getting. Sure, he could have announced this is stupid, and stopped any shutdowns. Then it would have been 24/7 body count coverage. There would be a little number on your TV screen ticking away the deaths. Also, I think Trump figured at worst, a two to four week lockdown and not the madness you see now. So, he simply left it up to governors. Notice which ones are getting hammered.
The models were obvious crud because no virus has ever been that virulent.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
Trump really can only work with the advice he's getting. Sure, he could have announced this is stupid, and stopped any shutdowns. Then it would have been 24/7 body count coverage. There would be a little number on your TV screen ticking away the deaths. Also, I think Trump figured at worst, a two to four week lockdown and not the madness you see now. So, he simply left it up to governors. Notice which ones are getting hammered.
The models were obvious crud because no virus has ever been that virulent.
Posted by: WOPR at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (o+S+U)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Fauci is front and center for a reason. I almost feel sorry for him, but boy has he earned what's coming.
Fauci is front and center for a reason. I almost feel sorry for him, but boy has he earned what's coming.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
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Pritzker says the beatings will continue until the the virus is completely "eradicated" (so Fascism Forever)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
I ran off his Restore Illinois plan for my husband's work. It's a joke. Everyone alive in Illinois right now will be dead before you ever get to Phase 5. Not joking.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
I ran off his Restore Illinois plan for my husband's work. It's a joke. Everyone alive in Illinois right now will be dead before you ever get to Phase 5. Not joking.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (lwiT4)
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31 Reading CATO article - it moved.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (N39Ws)
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Imagine a US where prosecutors who abuse their power can be sued personally.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:35 PM (N39Ws)
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Imagine a US where prosecutors who abuse their power can be sued personally.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (LvTSG)
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It's over.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing. At least 20 people at the party drinking, laughing and talking. And these are total Karen-esque asshole lefties. I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown.
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing. At least 20 people at the party drinking, laughing and talking. And these are total Karen-esque asshole lefties. I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown.
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
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Fake News gotta fake news.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (+y/Ru)
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Believe which experts, when?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (oVJmc)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
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Fauci is too busy conning people into avoiding the $.50 treatment that works in favor of the $5000 that doesn't.
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Fauci is too busy conning people into avoiding the $.50 treatment that works in favor of the $5000 that doesn't.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (kOpft)
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However I have no problem with NYC being locked down forever.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (mht8P)
I'll settle for New Yawk shutting their rancid fucking pie holes about how it's the greatest city in the history of the world.
However I have no problem with NYC being locked down forever.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (mht8P)
I'll settle for New Yawk shutting their rancid fucking pie holes about how it's the greatest city in the history of the world.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (EGyGV)
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38 It's over.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing. At least 20 people at the party drinking, laughing and talking. And these are total Karen-esque asshole lefties. I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown.
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
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That's when you march over in a mask and scream at them that they are no better than Kemp in Georgia and they want old people to die.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing. At least 20 people at the party drinking, laughing and talking. And these are total Karen-esque asshole lefties. I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown.
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
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That's when you march over in a mask and scream at them that they are no better than Kemp in Georgia and they want old people to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (LvTSG)
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9. Colorado's official death toll is nearly 1000. Quite a few for 6 million population compared to Texas. Still does not warrant lockdowns. Polis is trying to thread the needle with the lockdown. He never closed open spaces and went to 'safer at home' on Apr 26 which is basically the CDC phase 1 with maybe a couple of extra restrictions.
But it seems like he now plans on keeping the state in this hobbled condition for many weeks. SMH for the FMN and millions of sheeple commiecrats who are cheering him for trying to kill off businesses.
But it seems like he now plans on keeping the state in this hobbled condition for many weeks. SMH for the FMN and millions of sheeple commiecrats who are cheering him for trying to kill off businesses.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (T9Hmo)
Posted by: cool breeze at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (UGKMd)
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Maybe because the nursing home workers are driving their own cars to work in TX, instead of taking plague-infested mass transit.
willowed from previous thread -
wanted to say that the home workers in NYC might have done this, but not in PA. and we have been killing our nursing home residents just as dead
they drive themselves to work, in multiple homes, here in Pennsy
the plan was to force homes to accept COVID positive patients, to NOT TEST on purpose to expose the other patients, and to force COVID positive workers to report to work. this was AFTER we all knew very well that the elderly were the most at risk.
also, the little "League of Idiot Governors" (NJ, PA, NY, MA, CT) banned the use of HCQ/Zinc/arithromicin, just to seal the deadly deal.
It was done on purpose. They are evil.
willowed from previous thread -
wanted to say that the home workers in NYC might have done this, but not in PA. and we have been killing our nursing home residents just as dead
they drive themselves to work, in multiple homes, here in Pennsy
the plan was to force homes to accept COVID positive patients, to NOT TEST on purpose to expose the other patients, and to force COVID positive workers to report to work. this was AFTER we all knew very well that the elderly were the most at risk.
also, the little "League of Idiot Governors" (NJ, PA, NY, MA, CT) banned the use of HCQ/Zinc/arithromicin, just to seal the deadly deal.
It was done on purpose. They are evil.
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (j9HX3)
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Rule by Experts. And we'll determine who are the experts.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (0QYMt)
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Sometimes I think that Matt Taibbi is just right across the threshold. You're almost there, dude, come on over.
Posted by: Innagaddadavida at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (hpbeA)
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National Review goes full Chuck Todd
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
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When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
Liberals are shameless, lawless hypocrites? Usually lawyers bleating about "rule of law?" Stop the presses.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
Liberals are shameless, lawless hypocrites? Usually lawyers bleating about "rule of law?" Stop the presses.
Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (TbnwU)
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We are now like Charlton Heston observing the statue of Liberty ... "they did it .. the MFers really did it". We are only slightly better off than that ... but we indeed moved directly into Fascist State control ... Pritzker says the beatings will continue until the the virus is completely "eradicated" (so Fascism Forever)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
sadly, the only solution left to us is to allow the complete collapse of the Illinois state economy, with all productive jobs moved out of state. This will come at a huge cost, and it will take at least a generation before any kind of functioning, healthy economy can be built back from the ashes.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
sadly, the only solution left to us is to allow the complete collapse of the Illinois state economy, with all productive jobs moved out of state. This will come at a huge cost, and it will take at least a generation before any kind of functioning, healthy economy can be built back from the ashes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
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The models were obvious crud because no virus has ever been that virulent.
Posted by: WOPR at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (o+S+U)
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The imperial college model basically used an 80% infection rate and Chinas morbidity rate of 5+ percent.
There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
Posted by: WOPR at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (o+S+U)
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The imperial college model basically used an 80% infection rate and Chinas morbidity rate of 5+ percent.
There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (nw6Hr)
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Lies, madness and despair.
I've never seen hysteria like this, fear of the invisible enemy, the Wuhan virus.
I will tell you this, soon as restaurants open, I'm going out to dinner and eating a fucking huge steak.
I've never seen hysteria like this, fear of the invisible enemy, the Wuhan virus.
I will tell you this, soon as restaurants open, I'm going out to dinner and eating a fucking huge steak.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (ifmtJ)
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Also, I think Trump figured at worst, a two to four week lockdown and
not the madness you see now. So, he simply left it up to governors.
Notice which ones are getting hammered.
Trump has the Bully Pulpit. I listen to his press conferences every day, except I did miss the latter part of last week. I have not heard him holler for re-opening. I want to hear him holler for re-opening. I could give a flying fig how many beautiful ventilators we have.
Sorry - not directed at you. Just frustrated in general.
not the madness you see now. So, he simply left it up to governors.
Notice which ones are getting hammered.
Trump has the Bully Pulpit. I listen to his press conferences every day, except I did miss the latter part of last week. I have not heard him holler for re-opening. I want to hear him holler for re-opening. I could give a flying fig how many beautiful ventilators we have.
Sorry - not directed at you. Just frustrated in general.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (lwiT4)
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However I have no problem with NYC being locked down forever.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (mht8P)
the rich NYC peeps are not locked down
went to the carriage trade grocer near me in Great Barrington MA on Friday
80% of the cars were from NYC.
And my friends tell me that it's the same story in the Hamptons
So they don't give a rats ass if they shut it down
in fact, it might spawn some opportunities for the vultures in NYC
although there is very few of those in the city
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:33 PM (mht8P)
the rich NYC peeps are not locked down
went to the carriage trade grocer near me in Great Barrington MA on Friday
80% of the cars were from NYC.
And my friends tell me that it's the same story in the Hamptons
So they don't give a rats ass if they shut it down
in fact, it might spawn some opportunities for the vultures in NYC
although there is very few of those in the city
Posted by: REDACTED at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (tQbpU)
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Fauci is front and center for a reason.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
He's the most competent in the whole Fed health bureaucracy.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
He's the most competent in the whole Fed health bureaucracy.
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (X/Pw5)
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Imagine a US where prosecutors who abuse their power can be sued personally.
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As a taxpayer, I approve. Why should I as a taxpayer have to pay for the "mistakes" of the government?
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As a taxpayer, I approve. Why should I as a taxpayer have to pay for the "mistakes" of the government?
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (sX1BW)
58
I'm wondering if nobody had ever even said anything would we have noticed Covid outside NYC.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (Ihsvk)
59
"At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?"
PLUS put up the charts of Death by Unemployment ... a very real fact ... Death by Shut Down numbers shooting up way past the death by virus which rate is going down. (all a planned fraud, except perhaps the release of the virus itself, though that is still an open question)
The Cure is worse than the disease, especially when we find there was no cure, and the disease was not so deadly. All Lies, pre-planned ... a PsyOp by China and the Gates type Foundations (tied to corrupt WHO and media intent on destroying Trump and our Republic).
PLUS put up the charts of Death by Unemployment ... a very real fact ... Death by Shut Down numbers shooting up way past the death by virus which rate is going down. (all a planned fraud, except perhaps the release of the virus itself, though that is still an open question)
The Cure is worse than the disease, especially when we find there was no cure, and the disease was not so deadly. All Lies, pre-planned ... a PsyOp by China and the Gates type Foundations (tied to corrupt WHO and media intent on destroying Trump and our Republic).
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (Cus5s)
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>>Instead of asking calmly if hydroxychloroquine works, or if the less restrictive Swedish crisis response has merit, or questioning why certain statistical assumptions about the seriousness of the crisis might have been off, we're denouncing the questions themselves as infamous. Or we're politicizing the framing of stories in a way that signals to readers what their take should be before they even digest the material.
Taibbi made this same point on the Bill Maher show 2 weeks ago, and get this: Maher agreed with him, aaaaand then immediately went right back into his #OrangeManBad is doing everything wrong shtick. Maybe even didn't take a breath between.
Our MSM and "expert class" are broken. I don't even think they can stop themselves they are so infected with TDS.
*Hmmm, reminds me of a short-lived show "BrainDead."
Taibbi made this same point on the Bill Maher show 2 weeks ago, and get this: Maher agreed with him, aaaaand then immediately went right back into his #OrangeManBad is doing everything wrong shtick. Maybe even didn't take a breath between.
Our MSM and "expert class" are broken. I don't even think they can stop themselves they are so infected with TDS.
*Hmmm, reminds me of a short-lived show "BrainDead."
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (bDqIh)
61
Now they start warning about the "second wave" conveniently to take place on October.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (G2zl5)
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Brian Cates twitter feed speaking about billions of foreign aid syphoned off and/or kicked back to Ukraine and then on to DC bank accounts of some officials, all while TFG was president.
https://bit.ly/2Ak7GJp
https://bit.ly/2Ak7GJp
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (N39Ws)
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51 sadly, the only solution left to us is to allow the complete collapse of the Illinois state economy, with all productive jobs moved out of state. This will come at a huge cost, and it will take at least a generation before any kind of functioning, healthy economy can be built back from the ashes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
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And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
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And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
64
National Review goes full Chuck Todd
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
Well, they changed the headline after commenters complained, apparently. Used to quote Barr as saying "History written by the winners" without context.
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
Well, they changed the headline after commenters complained, apparently. Used to quote Barr as saying "History written by the winners" without context.
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (xPl2J)
65
Colorado's official death toll is nearly 1000. Quite a few for 6 million population compared to Texas.
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I bet your opioid OD rate is higher than that.
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I bet your opioid OD rate is higher than that.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (nw6Hr)
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We'll see in two weeks when all the new cases are fully developed after reopening.
Posted by: No at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (QLXLN)
67
The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
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57 Imagine a US where prosecutors who abuse their power can be sued personally.
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As a taxpayer, I approve. Why should I as a taxpayer have to pay for the "mistakes" of the government?
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (sX1BW)
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That's always in the back of my mind. Like with the idea of Flynn suing. Who's he gonna sue? The federal government, which will have to pay him from taxes or borrowing.
Fuck that.
Sue the guy who did it, not the American taxpayer.
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As a taxpayer, I approve. Why should I as a taxpayer have to pay for the "mistakes" of the government?
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (sX1BW)
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That's always in the back of my mind. Like with the idea of Flynn suing. Who's he gonna sue? The federal government, which will have to pay him from taxes or borrowing.
Fuck that.
Sue the guy who did it, not the American taxpayer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (LvTSG)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
if true, Birx is livid with the faux reporting out of the CDC
"During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administration's coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC's antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics -- such as mortality rate and case count -- by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated," the newspaper reported.
"There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust," Birx reportedly said, according to two of the people.
"The flare-up came two days after it was reported that an internal government model, based on data from the CDC and other agencies, projected the daily death count would rise to 3,000 by June 1," the newspaper noted.
wapo
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
if true, Birx is livid with the faux reporting out of the CDC
"During a task force meeting Wednesday, a heated discussion broke out between Deborah Birx, the physician who oversees the administration's coronavirus response, and Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Birx and others were frustrated with the CDC's antiquated system for tracking virus data, which they worried was inflating some statistics -- such as mortality rate and case count -- by as much as 25 percent, according to four people present for the discussion or later briefed on it. Two senior administration officials said the discussion was not heated," the newspaper reported.
"There is nothing from the CDC that I can trust," Birx reportedly said, according to two of the people.
"The flare-up came two days after it was reported that an internal government model, based on data from the CDC and other agencies, projected the daily death count would rise to 3,000 by June 1," the newspaper noted.
wapo
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (x4XFu)
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Matt Taibbi is an absolute lunatic on 99 percent of the stories he writes, but on this he is correct.
Posted by: Sharkman at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (BM2fS)
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The models were obvious crud because no virus has ever been that virulent.
Posted by: WOPR
I think it depends on how you define virulent. If you're referring to how infectious it is, measles is spread more easily (has a higher R0). AFAIK, it was not suggested that Covid had a higher R0. If you mean lethality, that's clearly not so. See Ebola. Perhaps you meant a combination of the two?
Posted by: WOPR
I think it depends on how you define virulent. If you're referring to how infectious it is, measles is spread more easily (has a higher R0). AFAIK, it was not suggested that Covid had a higher R0. If you mean lethality, that's clearly not so. See Ebola. Perhaps you meant a combination of the two?
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (T6t7i)
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58
I'm wondering if nobody had ever even said anything would we have noticed Covid outside NYC.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (Ihsvk)
We would. Because NYC people have homes outside of the city. Upstate NY, all along eastern seaboard. These people would have been carriers.
I'm wondering if nobody had ever even said anything would we have noticed Covid outside NYC.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (Ihsvk)
We would. Because NYC people have homes outside of the city. Upstate NY, all along eastern seaboard. These people would have been carriers.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (N39Ws)
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And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
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The IL constitution isn't going to print its own money.
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The IL constitution isn't going to print its own money.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (sX1BW)
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At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM
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Allegedly Dr. Brix stomped the CDC and their models down in a recent meeting. GP has the story.
She is claimed to have told the Director of the CDC that she can't trust a single thing coming out of their department.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM
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Allegedly Dr. Brix stomped the CDC and their models down in a recent meeting. GP has the story.
She is claimed to have told the Director of the CDC that she can't trust a single thing coming out of their department.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (JUOKG)
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It is pointless anyway. The data is meaningless if the deaths aren't strictly COVID + pneumonia and not COVID + plane crash, COVID + diabetes, COVID + jilted lover, etc.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ADuZP)
76
"Conservative Americans see coronavirus hope in Progressive Sweden," reads a Politico headline, as if only conservatives should feel optimism in the possibility that a non-lockdown approach might have merit! Are we rooting for such an approach to not work?
The answer is "yes, yes the left wants people to die." It is insane to clearly see that the commies want re-openings to fail. What do they gain?!
The answer is "yes, yes the left wants people to die." It is insane to clearly see that the commies want re-openings to fail. What do they gain?!
Posted by: Al Unsure at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (Jib4S)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (mht8P)
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80% of Chinese virus deaths in Pennsylvania have been in nursing homes
Average age of all COVID deaths in PA is 79. Life expectancy in the US is 78.6. We should probably panic.
Average age of all COVID deaths in PA is 79. Life expectancy in the US is 78.6. We should probably panic.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (8DRUP)
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We would. Because NYC people have homes outside of the city. Upstate NY, all along eastern seaboard. These people would have been carriers.
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Yep. Ever since September.
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Yep. Ever since September.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (ADuZP)
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NY had 41 deaths yesterday. What the fuck are we waiting for?
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (s0rgF)
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sadly, the only solution left to us is to allow the complete collapse of the Illinois state economy, with all productive jobs moved out of state. This will come at a huge cost, and it will take at least a generation before any kind of functioning, healthy economy can be built back from the ashes.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
I wouldn't, if I were them. Outside Chicago, even in the suburbs, quite a bit of Illinois is red. Not blood red like Indiana, but close. And by God would it be easy to convince them siege Chicago, or supply the military forces doing so. At least LA and NYC have ocean access. Chicago would be ridiculously easy to conquer if their hinterlands decided the city had to be burned.
And they will, if this bullshit continues.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:39 PM (trdmm)
I wouldn't, if I were them. Outside Chicago, even in the suburbs, quite a bit of Illinois is red. Not blood red like Indiana, but close. And by God would it be easy to convince them siege Chicago, or supply the military forces doing so. At least LA and NYC have ocean access. Chicago would be ridiculously easy to conquer if their hinterlands decided the city had to be burned.
And they will, if this bullshit continues.
Posted by: trev006 at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (TbnwU)
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Pritzker says the beatings will continue until the the virus is completely "eradicated" (so Fascism Forever)
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
There are few phrases as dangerous as "for the duration of the crisis."
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (Cus5s)
There are few phrases as dangerous as "for the duration of the crisis."
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (J+mig)
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zombie
Late to your comment.
Did you call the snitch line on them?
It'd serve them right.
It's the hypocrisy that makes me the angriest.
Just like the, "WE're all in this together", bullshit.
Late to your comment.
Did you call the snitch line on them?
It'd serve them right.
It's the hypocrisy that makes me the angriest.
Just like the, "WE're all in this together", bullshit.
Posted by: Winston, dreg of society at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (WFAUg)
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67
The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
Here comes the "tattoos".
The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
Here comes the "tattoos".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (N39Ws)
85
65 Colorado's official death toll is nearly 1000. Quite a few for 6 million population compared to Texas.
I'm in NorCal... We have a population in my County of over 500 thousand... We have 3 deaths and 65 one was early on from one of the cruise ships... All we're over 65 and closer to 80...
I'm in NorCal... We have a population in my County of over 500 thousand... We have 3 deaths and 65 one was early on from one of the cruise ships... All we're over 65 and closer to 80...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (Zmnko)
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To a New Yorker like you, a hero is some kind of weird sammich; not some nut who goes to the grocery store without a mask.
Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (gmo/4)
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Gov Herr Wolf of PA is threatening the counties that are opening up without HIS permission. He's going to hold back state funds from those countries defying his plan and pull licenses from businesses who open ahead of his schedule. He has already vetoed the legislature's reopening plan.
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
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There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
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My leftwing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, no social distancing. At least 20 people at the party drinking, laughing and talking. And these are total Karen-esque asshole lefties. I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown.
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie
my sister in norther Cali just told me the same thing
neighbors had a big party
no one cares anymore
cars all over the road
bil stuck in traffic heading home last night
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie
my sister in norther Cali just told me the same thing
neighbors had a big party
no one cares anymore
cars all over the road
bil stuck in traffic heading home last night
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (x4XFu)
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NO, NO !!! This can't be over !! We are not done killing DJT chances of re-election !!11!! ISOLATE, ISOLATE! GET YOUR MASKS ON !!!
-Every Dem Operative
-Every Dem Operative
Posted by: runner at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (zr5Kq)
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My buddy from CT said the same thing this morning about Texas reopening.
You know, part of me feels for LIVs. The MSM, coupled with Big Tech, has made it virtually impossible for someone to stumble upon the truth. You have to actively seek it out and everything else in your life will tell you that it's a lie.
You know, part of me feels for LIVs. The MSM, coupled with Big Tech, has made it virtually impossible for someone to stumble upon the truth. You have to actively seek it out and everything else in your life will tell you that it's a lie.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (0nzky)
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>>It's over.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing.
Yeah, MA mandated masks outside last week and at best, 50% are doing this. Probably saw so many this weekend only because there was a police car parked within the park/beach we visited (i.e. people don't want to risk the fine given obvious police presence). Anywhere there's no police there's probably 25% masked at best.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing.
Yeah, MA mandated masks outside last week and at best, 50% are doing this. Probably saw so many this weekend only because there was a police car parked within the park/beach we visited (i.e. people don't want to risk the fine given obvious police presence). Anywhere there's no police there's probably 25% masked at best.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (ADuZP)
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That's when you march over in a mask and scream at
them that they are no better than Kemp in Georgia and they want old
people to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower
After all, if they kill all the old people, who will be left for us to push off a cliff?
them that they are no better than Kemp in Georgia and they want old
people to die.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower
After all, if they kill all the old people, who will be left for us to push off a cliff?
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (T6t7i)
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I'm in NorCal... We have a population in my County of over 500 thousand... We have 3 deaths and 65 one was early on from one of the cruise ships... All we're over 65 and closer to 80...
Well that came out weird... My point was they were all 0ver 65 and we have had 3 deaths
I'm in NorCal... We have a population in my County of over 500 thousand... We have 3 deaths and 65 one was early on from one of the cruise ships... All we're over 65 and closer to 80...
Well that came out weird... My point was they were all 0ver 65 and we have had 3 deaths
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (Zmnko)
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Gov Herr Wolf of PA is threatening the counties that are opening up without HIS permission. He's going to hold back state funds from those countries defying his plan and pull licenses from businesses who open ahead of his schedule. He has already vetoed the legislature's reopening plan
welp he can suck Rachel Levine's dick
welp he can suck Rachel Levine's dick
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (mht8P)
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VA had 12 deaths yesterday. That's a bad School Bus accident.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (s0rgF)
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ha ha it was "it begins..."
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Yep. He was... determined.
Hope he's okay. We haven't seen him in a month or so.
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Yep. He was... determined.
Hope he's okay. We haven't seen him in a month or so.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (ADuZP)
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That's always in the back of my mind. Like with the idea of Flynn suing. Who's he gonna sue? The federal government, which will have to pay him from taxes or borrowing.
Fuck that.
Sue the guy who did it, not the American taxpayer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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It's a start, and will give agencies pause as they will have good reason to fire these people.
The idea that a bureaucrat gets shielded like this but a company doesn't makes no sense.
Fuck that.
Sue the guy who did it, not the American taxpayer.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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It's a start, and will give agencies pause as they will have good reason to fire these people.
The idea that a bureaucrat gets shielded like this but a company doesn't makes no sense.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (Ihsvk)
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87
Gov Herr Wolf of PA is threatening the counties that are opening up
without HIS permission. He's going to hold back state funds from those
countries defying his plan and pull licenses from businesses who open
ahead of his schedule. He has already vetoed the legislature's reopening
plan.
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
Gov Herr Wolf of PA is threatening the counties that are opening up
without HIS permission. He's going to hold back state funds from those
countries defying his plan and pull licenses from businesses who open
ahead of his schedule. He has already vetoed the legislature's reopening
plan.
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (N39Ws)
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The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
I'll be leaving my phone at home. Don't really need it with me.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
I'll be leaving my phone at home. Don't really need it with me.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (x4XFu)
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There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
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I bleieve you are correct.
Where is that sniveling peice of shit dick hole??
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
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I bleieve you are correct.
Where is that sniveling peice of shit dick hole??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
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SC had 1 death yesterday. Lets kill the virus by nuking IL while we still have a chance!
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (s0rgF)
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History written by the winners survivors.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (+y/Ru)
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>>The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
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THIS.
Maybe also be used to force vaccines.
Contact trace = logging who has it, then making them show paperwork they've been medically cleared, vaccinated, whatever. It leads down a bad road.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
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THIS.
Maybe also be used to force vaccines.
Contact trace = logging who has it, then making them show paperwork they've been medically cleared, vaccinated, whatever. It leads down a bad road.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (ZLI7S)
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I'm wondering if nobody had ever even said anything would we have noticed Covid outside NYC.
nobody gave a shit about Lyme disease until some NYC peep came home with a tick on his ass
nobody gave a shit about Lyme disease until some NYC peep came home with a tick on his ass
Posted by: REDACTED at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (tQbpU)
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Heh, media offering no apologies, take a gander about what they said about their total disingenuous and deceptively edited clip of Barr this past weekend:
Earlier today, we inadvertently and inaccurately cut short a video clip
of an interview with AG Barr before offering commentary and analysis.
Inaccurate?, yes ... Inadvertent?, Come on Man!
Heh, media offering no apologies, take a gander about what they said about their total disingenuous and deceptively edited clip of Barr this past weekend:
Earlier today, we inadvertently and inaccurately cut short a video clip
of an interview with AG Barr before offering commentary and analysis.
Inaccurate?, yes ... Inadvertent?, Come on Man!
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (r+sAi)
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Hi Grammie!
Our former diocese (OCA-Midwest) laid out the "rules" for reopening... The churches will never reopen the way they are written. It's ridiculous.
Our former diocese (OCA-Midwest) laid out the "rules" for reopening... The churches will never reopen the way they are written. It's ridiculous.
Posted by: Katja at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (btFMY)
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (sX1BW)
114
The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
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This is the PATRIOT Act level bullsh*t legislation that you knew was coming.
If you don't do it then the terrorists win.
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This is the PATRIOT Act level bullsh*t legislation that you knew was coming.
If you don't do it then the terrorists win.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (ADuZP)
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84 67
The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
Here comes the "tattoos".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (N39Ws)
Perhaps some kind of mark, so you can show people you're 'safe'. You could require it to buy or sell, maybe put it somewhere visible, like the forehead or back of the hand....
The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
Here comes the "tattoos".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (N39Ws)
Perhaps some kind of mark, so you can show people you're 'safe'. You could require it to buy or sell, maybe put it somewhere visible, like the forehead or back of the hand....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (ifmtJ)
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77
"History written by the winners"
Nonsense. Read any history of the Spanish Civil War.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (mht8P)
The line I remember is that history is written by those with an ax to grind.
"History written by the winners"
Nonsense. Read any history of the Spanish Civil War.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (mht8P)
The line I remember is that history is written by those with an ax to grind.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM (0QYMt)
117
Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
Wolf is in his second term - for two plus more years UGH
Wolf is in his second term - for two plus more years UGH
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (j9HX3)
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Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (N39Ws)
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Term Limited ! in 2nd term
Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (N39Ws)
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Term Limited ! in 2nd term
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (Lrula)
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Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (Zmnko)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (mht8P)
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It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
Here comes the "tattoos".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
***
You won't be able to buy or sell without one.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:41 PM (ifmtJ)
Here comes the "tattoos".
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed
***
You won't be able to buy or sell without one.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (ADuZP)
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VA had 12 deaths yesterday. That's a bad School Bus accident.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (s0rgF)
Pikers
VA had 12 deaths yesterday. That's a bad School Bus accident.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (s0rgF)
Pikers
Posted by: Dr Gosnell the Abortion Doc at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (N39Ws)
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sadly, the only solution left to us is to allow the complete collapse of
the Illinois state economy, with all productive jobs moved out of
state. This will come at a huge cost, and it will take at least a
generation before any kind of functioning, healthy economy can be built
back from the ashes.
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Stuck in cook county, I am not looking forward to this.
But seriously, there must be no bailout for the shutdown governors.
the Illinois state economy, with all productive jobs moved out of
state. This will come at a huge cost, and it will take at least a
generation before any kind of functioning, healthy economy can be built
back from the ashes.
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Stuck in cook county, I am not looking forward to this.
But seriously, there must be no bailout for the shutdown governors.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (kOpft)
125
There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING
the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his
nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
----
I bleieve you are correct.
Where is that sniveling peice of shit dick hole??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM
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Pretty sure that was banana splits guy with a new IP and nic. Sounded just like him.
the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his
nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
----
I bleieve you are correct.
Where is that sniveling peice of shit dick hole??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM
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Pretty sure that was banana splits guy with a new IP and nic. Sounded just like him.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (JUOKG)
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NY had 41 deaths yesterday. What the fuck are we waiting for?
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (s0rgF)
Illinois wants zero deaths - zero - AND a vaccine before they open up.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (s0rgF)
Illinois wants zero deaths - zero - AND a vaccine before they open up.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (lwiT4)
127
I'll be leaving my phone at home. Don't really need it with me.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (x4XFu)
Good thinking
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (x4XFu)
Good thinking
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (ifmtJ)
128
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
it works too well
it's cheap
it works as a preventative
it would spoil their plans
it works too well
it's cheap
it works as a preventative
it would spoil their plans
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (j9HX3)
129
>>What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
Yes.
The money is in patents for new drugs and vaccines. Lots and lots of money.
Yes.
The money is in patents for new drugs and vaccines. Lots and lots of money.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (ZLI7S)
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32 States had 10 to no deaths yesterday. Only Jersey and MassHolia had plus 100.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (s0rgF)
131
>>The 'contact tracing' has me worried. I can't think of a bigger authoritarian boner than this.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
- - - -
THIS.
Maybe also be used to force vaccines.
Contact trace = logging who has it, then making them show paperwork
they've been medically cleared, vaccinated, whatever. It leads down a
bad road.
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Then don't give in to it.
Don't wear a mask if you don't want too, even if ordered too.
Don't blindly follow the government.
I don't think contact tracing will come into play, but if it does, get rid of your phone.
Who fucking cares at this point who got you sick? Are you going to put people in prison for having Wuhan?
It's all being used to justify home imprisonment.
- - - -
THIS.
Maybe also be used to force vaccines.
Contact trace = logging who has it, then making them show paperwork
they've been medically cleared, vaccinated, whatever. It leads down a
bad road.
-----------
Then don't give in to it.
Don't wear a mask if you don't want too, even if ordered too.
Don't blindly follow the government.
I don't think contact tracing will come into play, but if it does, get rid of your phone.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Baltimore at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (XHrkn)
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You know, part of me feels for LIVs. The MSM, coupled with Big Tech, has made it virtually impossible for someone to stumble upon the truth. You have to actively seek it out and everything else in your life will tell you that it's a lie.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (0nzky)
And to grab it and hold it means losing a solid chunk of your social circle, who has been conditioned to reject anyone who thinks diffetently.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (0nzky)
And to grab it and hold it means losing a solid chunk of your social circle, who has been conditioned to reject anyone who thinks diffetently.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (J+mig)
134
I'm worried the delay on the state supreme court (WI) means bad news.
Posted by: Katja at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (btFMY)
135
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing.
The party goers who say ni.
My leftw-ing neighbors had a huge party on Saturday night. No masks, ni social distancing.
The party goers who say ni.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (aKsyK)
136
Illinois wants zero deaths - zero - AND a vaccine before they open up
Gov. Nuisance here wants the same thiing more or less
Illinois wants zero deaths - zero - AND a vaccine before they open up
Gov. Nuisance here wants the same thiing more or less
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (Zmnko)
137
The NYC peeps here in the Berkshires were way ahead of the social distancing strategy
they have been taking up 3 parking spots for years
they have been taking up 3 parking spots for years
Posted by: REDACTED at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (tQbpU)
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130 32 States had 10 to no deaths yesterday. Only Jersey and MassHolia had plus 100.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (s0rgF)
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Don't forget Georgia! It had at least a million!
Not Colorado, though. They were fine.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (s0rgF)
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Don't forget Georgia! It had at least a million!
Not Colorado, though. They were fine.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (LvTSG)
139
The Invisible Hand will determine when things reopen.
Do NOT fuck with The Invisible Hand, or it will bitch-slap you into oblivion...
Do NOT fuck with The Invisible Hand, or it will bitch-slap you into oblivion...
Posted by: Tex Lovera at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (wtvvX)
140
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (Zmnko)
It's patent expired like 70 years ago. There's no money to be made off it anymore.
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (Zmnko)
It's patent expired like 70 years ago. There's no money to be made off it anymore.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:48 PM (lwiT4)
141
@seanmdav
James Clapper, who could end up as a prime suspect in John Durham's hunt for the illegal leaker of the Flynn-Kislyak calls, says he never briefed Obama about them ahead of a key Oval Office meeting. But both McCabe and Comey said Clapper did. Who's lying
https://tinyurl.com/y8rcxsba
James Clapper, who could end up as a prime suspect in John Durham's hunt for the illegal leaker of the Flynn-Kislyak calls, says he never briefed Obama about them ahead of a key Oval Office meeting. But both McCabe and Comey said Clapper did. Who's lying
https://tinyurl.com/y8rcxsba
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 12:48 PM (cF8AT)
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126 NY had 41 deaths yesterday. What the fuck are we waiting for?
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (s0rgF)
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Illinois wants zero deaths - zero - AND a vaccine before they open up.
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Then let them eat grass. Fuck those Fucktards.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (s0rgF)
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Illinois wants zero deaths - zero - AND a vaccine before they open up.
-------------------
Then let them eat grass. Fuck those Fucktards.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:48 PM (s0rgF)
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@102 87
Gov Herr Wolf of PA is threatening the counties that are opening up
without HIS permission. He's going to hold back state funds from those
countries defying his plan and pull licenses from businesses who open
ahead of his schedule. He has already vetoed the legislature's reopening
plan
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
******
He's already in his second term so no more for him.
Gov Herr Wolf of PA is threatening the counties that are opening up
without HIS permission. He's going to hold back state funds from those
countries defying his plan and pull licenses from businesses who open
ahead of his schedule. He has already vetoed the legislature's reopening
plan
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
Sounds like a winning re-election strategy to me.
******
He's already in his second term so no more for him.
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:48 PM (91jSV)
144
James Clapper, who could end up as a prime suspect in John Durham's hunt
for the illegal leaker of the Flynn-Kislyak calls, says he never
briefed Obama about them ahead of a key Oval Office meeting. But both
McCabe and Comey said Clapper did. Who's lying
----------
All of them.
for the illegal leaker of the Flynn-Kislyak calls, says he never
briefed Obama about them ahead of a key Oval Office meeting. But both
McCabe and Comey said Clapper did. Who's lying
----------
All of them.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (sX1BW)
145
128 What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
it works too well
it's cheap
it works as a preventative
it would spoil their plans
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (j9HX3)
Bill Gates & Co. wouldn't be able to make billions on a patent for a competing drug that's less effective.
it works too well
it's cheap
it works as a preventative
it would spoil their plans
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (j9HX3)
Bill Gates & Co. wouldn't be able to make billions on a patent for a competing drug that's less effective.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (J+mig)
146
88 There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
One of them was the Troll "Seattle Slough", who used to come here and cry about all the millions who were going to die. I doubt he'll be back, at least not under that name. There were others who've gone quiet.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
One of them was the Troll "Seattle Slough", who used to come here and cry about all the millions who were going to die. I doubt he'll be back, at least not under that name. There were others who've gone quiet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (trdmm)
147
Fauci is front and center for a reason.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
He's the most competent in the whole Fed health bureaucracy.
Posted by: BignJames
If you believe that, then I want some of what you are smoking.
He has deliberately mis-represented the facts and has possibly distorted the truth in respect to the source of the virus (Chinese Virology lab in Wuhan).
This virus is not a result of natural mutation that allowed it to jump species.
But Fauci as much as said that (it is natural). And he knows what is going on in that lab; he gave them (at least) $3.7 Mil from his budget. That is kind of small potatoes for running such an operation, but he does know what is going on there.
He demeans the effectiveness of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, but touts Remdisivir.
The trial for Remdisivir was a failure, but to hear him discuss it, it was a great success.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
He's the most competent in the whole Fed health bureaucracy.
Posted by: BignJames
If you believe that, then I want some of what you are smoking.
He has deliberately mis-represented the facts and has possibly distorted the truth in respect to the source of the virus (Chinese Virology lab in Wuhan).
This virus is not a result of natural mutation that allowed it to jump species.
But Fauci as much as said that (it is natural). And he knows what is going on in that lab; he gave them (at least) $3.7 Mil from his budget. That is kind of small potatoes for running such an operation, but he does know what is going on there.
He demeans the effectiveness of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine, but touts Remdisivir.
The trial for Remdisivir was a failure, but to hear him discuss it, it was a great success.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (vcOmj)
148
willowed from previous thread -
wanted to say that the home workers in NYC might have done this, but not in PA. and we have been killing our nursing home residents just as dead
they drive themselves to work, in multiple homes, here in Pennsy
the plan was to force homes to accept COVID positive patients, to NOT TEST on purpose to expose the other patients, and to force COVID positive workers to report to work. this was AFTER we all knew very well that the elderly were the most at risk.
also, the little "League of Idiot Governors" (NJ, PA, NY, MA, CT) banned the use of HCQ/Zinc/arithromicin, just to seal the deadly deal.
It was done on purpose. They are evil.
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (j9HX3)
how else are they going to get madicare/medicade expenses under control?...
wanted to say that the home workers in NYC might have done this, but not in PA. and we have been killing our nursing home residents just as dead
they drive themselves to work, in multiple homes, here in Pennsy
the plan was to force homes to accept COVID positive patients, to NOT TEST on purpose to expose the other patients, and to force COVID positive workers to report to work. this was AFTER we all knew very well that the elderly were the most at risk.
also, the little "League of Idiot Governors" (NJ, PA, NY, MA, CT) banned the use of HCQ/Zinc/arithromicin, just to seal the deadly deal.
It was done on purpose. They are evil.
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (j9HX3)
how else are they going to get madicare/medicade expenses under control?...
Posted by: SturmToddler at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (+NdM9)
149
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
Yes.
The money is in patents for new drugs and vaccines. Lots and lots of money.
Posted by: JackStraw
________________
I know the real answer, but what is the official answer for why a drug like Remdesivir has been "blessed" by the FDA but not hydroxy?
Yes.
The money is in patents for new drugs and vaccines. Lots and lots of money.
Posted by: JackStraw
________________
I know the real answer, but what is the official answer for why a drug like Remdesivir has been "blessed" by the FDA but not hydroxy?
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (Ihsvk)
150
64 National Review goes full Chuck Todd
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
Well, they changed the headline after commenters complained, apparently. Used to quote Barr as saying "History written by the winners" without context.
Posted by: Mark1971
How easily it was for them to slide into the "Weakly Standard" role. They'll have WS's fate too.
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
Well, they changed the headline after commenters complained, apparently. Used to quote Barr as saying "History written by the winners" without context.
Posted by: Mark1971
How easily it was for them to slide into the "Weakly Standard" role. They'll have WS's fate too.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (Di/+v)
151
I'm worried the delay on the state supreme court (WI) means bad news.
Posted by: Katja at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (btFMY)
Yes - what the frik is taking them so long??
Posted by: Katja at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (btFMY)
Yes - what the frik is taking them so long??
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (lwiT4)
152
Smirk early, smirk often.
Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (RuIsu)
153
The very definite difference between conservatives and liberals.
Conservative: "Here's what we need to do."
Liberal: "Here's what YOU need to do."
Conservative: "Here's what we need to do."
Liberal: "Here's what YOU need to do."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (E+OcO)
154
About the "scolding" and the shaming...Rush Limbaugh talked about the moral narcissists on Friday: https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2020/05/08/the-lefts-moral-narcissism/
Posted by: Cindy at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (yGBWN)
155
I'll be leaving my phone at home. Don't really need it with me.
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This is now illegal, citizen, punishable by a $300 fine for the first offense if you are part of the punishable demographic. And if you cannot afford a phone a phone will be provided to you.
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This is now illegal, citizen, punishable by a $300 fine for the first offense if you are part of the punishable demographic. And if you cannot afford a phone a phone will be provided to you.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (ADuZP)
156
FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)
157
It's not a coincidence that the same people who made bank on the HIV/AIDs epidemic are playing leading roles in this scam too.
Guess who was in charge of USAID dollars at the start of the Obama administration?
Hillary Clinton.
Guess who was in charge of USAID dollars at the start of the Obama administration?
Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (Zz0t1)
159
Greetings:
As the beneficiary of 13 years of Catholic education, that contrition thing is a bit tricky. You see, it requires both a firm purpose of amendment and an avoidance of the near occasions of sin.
So, as we used to say in the Bronx of my youth, I'm not holding my breath.
As the beneficiary of 13 years of Catholic education, that contrition thing is a bit tricky. You see, it requires both a firm purpose of amendment and an avoidance of the near occasions of sin.
So, as we used to say in the Bronx of my youth, I'm not holding my breath.
Posted by: 11B40 at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (evgyj)
160
Yeah. Im not getting a COVID vaccine. Not right off the bat anyhow.
Not because Im an anti-vaxxer. But because Im "anti injecting a rushed to market political solution directly into my bloodstream" kinda guy.
Thalidomide anybody??
Yeah. Im not getting a COVID vaccine. Not right off the bat anyhow.
Not because Im an anti-vaxxer. But because Im "anti injecting a rushed to market political solution directly into my bloodstream" kinda guy.
Thalidomide anybody??
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:50 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
162
115 Perhaps some kind of mark, so you can show people you're 'safe'. You could require it to buy or sell, maybe put it somewhere visible, like the forehead or back of the hand....
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM
Imagine this comment as #666 ...
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 11, 2020 12:45 PM
Imagine this comment as #666 ...
Posted by: Duncanthrax at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (DMUuz)
163
What they are mostly trying to peddle now is- fear. They've changed tactics in NY to now say your kids are at risk, OMG!! Meanwhile, a lot of my neighbors kids have been ignoring all the social distancing and other fear peddling they've been doing. These kids have done nothing but play, ride their ATV's and run around getting into mischief.
They always go to the weakest and most vulnerable. So the push is also to get seniors, most of whom are retired and therefore don't care of people ever go back to work, to do their bidding.
It's a real shitshow where liberals are trying to do their best to get the divisive forces working for them. Again.
They always go to the weakest and most vulnerable. So the push is also to get seniors, most of whom are retired and therefore don't care of people ever go back to work, to do their bidding.
It's a real shitshow where liberals are trying to do their best to get the divisive forces working for them. Again.
Posted by: Marcus T at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (VpIIl)
164
49 National Review goes full Chuck Todd
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
The headline has changed, but the URL which has the original quotation has not.
https://tinyurl.com/yc3k97qj
Posted by: Mark1971 at May 11, 2020 12:38 PM (xPl2J)
The headline has changed, but the URL which has the original quotation has not.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (iuFgi)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (Zz0t1)
166
>>What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
No longer under patent, so there are many companies currently manufacturing it as a generic and each pill is way under $1.00 vs. the one the MSM is touting (begins with an 'r') that is a new drug, so it's under patent and one manufacturer.
No longer under patent, so there are many companies currently manufacturing it as a generic and each pill is way under $1.00 vs. the one the MSM is touting (begins with an 'r') that is a new drug, so it's under patent and one manufacturer.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (x4XFu)
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162 115 Perhaps some kind of mark, so you can show people you're 'safe'. You could require it to buy or sell, maybe put it somewhere visible, like the forehead or back of the hand....
I've got an idea... How about a yellow star for those who are not "safe."?Worked before
I've got an idea... How about a yellow star for those who are not "safe."?Worked before
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (Zmnko)
169
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
-
Do you want Medicare and Medicaid to pay you $300 per patient or $60,000 per patient?
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Do you want Medicare and Medicaid to pay you $300 per patient or $60,000 per patient?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (ADuZP)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (x4XFu)
171
I got Joy in my soul.
God is in control.
I got Satan on my trail,
But I'm singing all is well.
He's attacking everyday,
But I'm watching while I pray.
No matter the attack,
I won't turn back.
This means war.
I've been in the storm and the rain,
But the Blood still stays the same.
Whatever's going wrong,
My war clothes are on.
I might be in a daze
But you can't have my praise.
No matter the attack,
I won't turn back.
This means war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjYnyz42mHQ
God is in control.
I got Satan on my trail,
But I'm singing all is well.
He's attacking everyday,
But I'm watching while I pray.
No matter the attack,
I won't turn back.
This means war.
I've been in the storm and the rain,
But the Blood still stays the same.
Whatever's going wrong,
My war clothes are on.
I might be in a daze
But you can't have my praise.
No matter the attack,
I won't turn back.
This means war.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjYnyz42mHQ
Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (RU4sa)
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Pretty sure that was banana splits guy with a new IP and nic. Sounded just like him.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (JUOKG)
I've always suspected him as the "poll troll" who shows up from time to time with a new nick and new poll that he can concern troll about. Either him or lurking lurker, and I'm not saying they're not the same person. They could be.
Pretty sure that was banana splits guy with a new IP and nic. Sounded just like him.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 12:46 PM (JUOKG)
I've always suspected him as the "poll troll" who shows up from time to time with a new nick and new poll that he can concern troll about. Either him or lurking lurker, and I'm not saying they're not the same person. They could be.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (trdmm)
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Yeah. Im not getting a COVID vaccine. Not right off the bat anyhow.
Not because Im an anti-vaxxer. But because Im "anti injecting a rushed to market political solution directly into my bloodstream" kinda guy.
Thalidomide anybody??
Posted by: fixerupper
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I feel the same way, I don't know what I will end up doing.
I know I can't believe any of the "experts", they'd have me hooked up to a ventilator if I came in with a cough
Not because Im an anti-vaxxer. But because Im "anti injecting a rushed to market political solution directly into my bloodstream" kinda guy.
Thalidomide anybody??
Posted by: fixerupper
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I feel the same way, I don't know what I will end up doing.
I know I can't believe any of the "experts", they'd have me hooked up to a ventilator if I came in with a cough
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (Ihsvk)
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Lizzy, I thought the MA rule was mandatory inside stores but if you could social distance not required outside?
I walk in a park near my house and towards the end of last week, saw lots of people in the park wearing masks including little kids but yesterday, hardlyt anyone wearing a mask even though flashing sign at entrance said masks required and no sports. This is all so sick.
I walk in a park near my house and towards the end of last week, saw lots of people in the park wearing masks including little kids but yesterday, hardlyt anyone wearing a mask even though flashing sign at entrance said masks required and no sports. This is all so sick.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (QzF6i)
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The rebound of the market has been wonderful to behold.
Not every stock everywhere, but the market is strong and wants to go.
The American people want to work and want the economy to work and want the market to work.
I find it hard to understand just why exactly some of these blue state guvz haven't received the Mussolini treatment yet?
Not that I'm advocating for it. however -
these guvz are clearly misusing their powers against the will of the people and in a way that may permanently damage their working voters and the middle class and working class,
all because they had the misfortune to live in a blue state.
You may want to rethink your voting preferences come November, blue holes.
Or, you know, load up on tar and feathers...
The rebound of the market has been wonderful to behold.
Not every stock everywhere, but the market is strong and wants to go.
The American people want to work and want the economy to work and want the market to work.
I find it hard to understand just why exactly some of these blue state guvz haven't received the Mussolini treatment yet?
Not that I'm advocating for it. however -
these guvz are clearly misusing their powers against the will of the people and in a way that may permanently damage their working voters and the middle class and working class,
all because they had the misfortune to live in a blue state.
You may want to rethink your voting preferences come November, blue holes.
Or, you know, load up on tar and feathers...
Posted by: naturalfake at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (z0XD8)
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God Bless America!
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God Bless America!
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (sX1BW)
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Yeah. Im not getting a COVID vaccine. Not right off the bat anyhow.
Posted by: fixerupper
A Covid19 vaccine....off the bat?
That is unintentionally pretty funny.
Posted by: fixerupper
A Covid19 vaccine....off the bat?
That is unintentionally pretty funny.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (vcOmj)
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No longer under patent, so there are many companies currently manufacturing it as a generic and each pill is way under $1.00 vs. the one the MSM is touting (begins with an 'r') that is a new drug, so it's under patent and one manufacturer.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (bDqIh)
remdesivir is $1000/pill
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (bDqIh)
remdesivir is $1000/pill
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (sI15f)
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Went to get my temporary cap put on this morning. I swear it looked like I was entering an operating room. Full scrubs, hair protection, gloves, masks. had to fill out 2 forms and have my temp taken before I could go back.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (dUJdY)
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Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
In other words, it's very effective. Thanks Chuck.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
In other words, it's very effective. Thanks Chuck.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (Di/+v)
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What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
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Do you want Medicare and Medicaid to pay you $300 per patient or $60,000 per patient?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (ADuZP)
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Bingo! Always follow the funny money ...
What's with this bull shite? Is hydroxychloroquine too cheap?
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Do you want Medicare and Medicaid to pay you $300 per patient or $60,000 per patient?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (ADuZP)
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Bingo! Always follow the funny money ...
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (WxPaM)
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Yeah. Im not getting a COVID vaccine. Not right off the bat anyhow.
Posted by: fixerupper
A Covid19 vaccine....off the bat?
That is unintentionally pretty funny.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (vcOmj)
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HAH!!!!
Im the blind squirrel today!!!
Posted by: fixerupper
A Covid19 vaccine....off the bat?
That is unintentionally pretty funny.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (vcOmj)
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HAH!!!!
Im the blind squirrel today!!!
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (nw6Hr)
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The trial for Remdisivir was a failure, but to hear him discuss it, it was a great success.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (vcOmj)
It lowers average hospital stay for severe cases from 15 to 11 days. So it is worthless to 98% of people that have very mild symptoms.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (vcOmj)
It lowers average hospital stay for severe cases from 15 to 11 days. So it is worthless to 98% of people that have very mild symptoms.
Posted by: iran iran at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (JFO2v)
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170 Carnival Cruise Lines Flooded with Bookings for Return to Service in August
alrighty then
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (x4XFu)
for whatever publicist put that out, I would just say "phrasing!"
alrighty then
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM (x4XFu)
for whatever publicist put that out, I would just say "phrasing!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (trdmm)
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Not because Im an anti-vaxxer. But because Im "anti injecting a rushed to market political solution directly into my bloodstream" kinda guy.
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Are you trying to say there might be unintended consequences in manufacturing a rushed vaccine for a cold virus?
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Are you trying to say there might be unintended consequences in manufacturing a rushed vaccine for a cold virus?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (ADuZP)
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170
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alrighty then
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Where did you see that? The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
Carnival Cruise Lines Flooded with Bookings for Return to Service in August
alrighty then
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Where did you see that? The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (T6t7i)
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I've never even gotten a regular flu vaccine. I'm sure not going to start now.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (lwiT4)
188
Arkansas latest stats holding at 88 deaths, 64 in hospital. You go out for a drive, and it's like nothing ever happened.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (C1Lsn)
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Gov Herr Wolf of PA {...} has already vetoed the legislature's reopening plan
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
2/3 ??? simple majority ??? veto override available?
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
2/3 ??? simple majority ??? veto override available?
Posted by: Adriane the Media Panic Critic ... at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (LPnfS)
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Fauci is front and center for a reason.
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
He's the most competent in the whole Fed health bureaucracy.
Posted by: BignJames
If you believe that, then I want some of what you are smoking.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (vcOmj)
needed sarc tag
Posted by: t-bird at May 11, 2020 12:36 PM (n/x6m)
He's the most competent in the whole Fed health bureaucracy.
Posted by: BignJames
If you believe that, then I want some of what you are smoking.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (vcOmj)
needed sarc tag
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (X/Pw5)
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I've got an idea... How about a yellow star for those who are not "safe."?Worked before
Posted by: It's me donna
Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers.
I've got an idea... How about a yellow star for those who are not "safe."?Worked before
Posted by: It's me donna
Pink hearts, yellow moons, orange stars, and green clovers.
Posted by: Leper Khan at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (aKsyK)
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Remember when the nightly news was wall-to-wall weepies about the poor Federal workers furloughed because of the government shutdown? And how the fabric of society was unraveling?
Remember when the nightly news was wall-to-wall weepies about the poor Federal workers furloughed because of the government shutdown? And how the fabric of society was unraveling?
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (mht8P)
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Are you trying to say there might be unintended consequences in manufacturing a rushed vaccine for a cold virus?
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So we are just supposed to ignore all those movies?
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So we are just supposed to ignore all those movies?
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (sX1BW)
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I predicted when this began that people wouldn't take being imprisoned long, and even the scoldiest Karens would be breaking out. They would however continue the scolding because hypocrisy is ingrained among the Left
Posted by: kbdabear at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (qAR6u)
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remdesivir is $1000/pill
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (sI15f)
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I believe Fauci had a hand in engineering that drug for AIDS.... totally ineffective.
If what I read is correct..
Grain of salt and all that.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (sI15f)
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I believe Fauci had a hand in engineering that drug for AIDS.... totally ineffective.
If what I read is correct..
Grain of salt and all that.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (nw6Hr)
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Link to the Carnival Cruise thing?
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (dUJdY)
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No longer under patent, so there are many companies currently manufacturing it as a generic and each pill is way under $1.00 vs. the one the MSM is touting (begins with an 'r') that is a new drug, so it's under patent and one manufacturer.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (bDqIh)
Remdisivir or something like that. I've heard a lot of high profile leftists are heavily invested in the company that makes it.
Block the cheap preventative, force people to use the expensive one, and get billions for your pet causes.
These people are evil.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 12:51 PM (bDqIh)
Remdisivir or something like that. I've heard a lot of high profile leftists are heavily invested in the company that makes it.
Block the cheap preventative, force people to use the expensive one, and get billions for your pet causes.
These people are evil.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (J+mig)
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187 I've never even gotten a regular flu vaccine. I'm sure not going to start now.
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I'm a smoker. Never caught the flu evah. 1.3B Smoking Chinks can't be wrong
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I'm a smoker. Never caught the flu evah. 1.3B Smoking Chinks can't be wrong
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (s0rgF)
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Don't forget to wear your Freedom Masks, citizens.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (ADuZP)
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I am in no way meaning to justify the Colorado 'lockdown lite'. B.S. 1000 deaths in two months from any one modality is no justification for the Polis, mayor Hancock and 'tri-county health department' authoritarian actions.
I was just noting that for a state that is not super populous, and likes to think of itself as a healthy, active, population we have had a lot of 'rona casualties. I don't know if its the light rail, the encouragement of homeless potheads, or sanctuary cities (and covertly sanctuary state) BS that bumped us up versus similar population and climate states.
I think most of the hysteria is over, but I fear that folks will feel like the lighter lockdown is not unbearable and most won't demand an end to it.
I was just noting that for a state that is not super populous, and likes to think of itself as a healthy, active, population we have had a lot of 'rona casualties. I don't know if its the light rail, the encouragement of homeless potheads, or sanctuary cities (and covertly sanctuary state) BS that bumped us up versus similar population and climate states.
I think most of the hysteria is over, but I fear that folks will feel like the lighter lockdown is not unbearable and most won't demand an end to it.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (T9Hmo)
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Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
Lying sacks of shit gotta lie.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
Lying sacks of shit gotta lie.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)
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"And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing."
on paper ... yes. But when one early gov worker retired neighbor laughs that his neighbor (put out of business by shut down and having to fund six figure golden mafia pensions) is putting out his for sale sign ... the arrogant rich retiree may get more direct pain.
In time those that got gold pension by funding the Mafia that runs the state will (should be) seen as direct threats to America ... just as Nazis or other commies in the past. "Ha Ha, we used government to get eternal easy street, while you worked your ass off and still lost your business" ... met with a gun shot ... the shot heard round the world ... kill the Golden Boys (retired on six figures, paid for by bankrupting the proles) it is the only answer they will "listen to".
on paper ... yes. But when one early gov worker retired neighbor laughs that his neighbor (put out of business by shut down and having to fund six figure golden mafia pensions) is putting out his for sale sign ... the arrogant rich retiree may get more direct pain.
In time those that got gold pension by funding the Mafia that runs the state will (should be) seen as direct threats to America ... just as Nazis or other commies in the past. "Ha Ha, we used government to get eternal easy street, while you worked your ass off and still lost your business" ... met with a gun shot ... the shot heard round the world ... kill the Golden Boys (retired on six figures, paid for by bankrupting the proles) it is the only answer they will "listen to".
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (Cus5s)
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I've never even gotten a regular flu vaccine. I'm sure not going to start now.
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Never have, never will.
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Never have, never will.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Said no sane person ever at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (EgshT)
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You would think that HCQ would be over the counter at this point. You can't get high on it and the very limited side effects are well known.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (r+sAi)
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201 Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
Lying sacks of shit gotta lie.
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Your talking about Senator Charles Schumer (D - Goldman Sachs)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 12:44 PM (aKsyK)
Lying sacks of shit gotta lie.
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Your talking about Senator Charles Schumer (D - Goldman Sachs)
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:58 PM (s0rgF)
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"Gov Herr Wolf of PA {...} has already vetoed the legislature's reopening plan
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
2/3 ??? simple majority ??? veto override available?"
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State legislature has R majority in both houses but not enough to override.
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:42 PM (91jSV)
2/3 ??? simple majority ??? veto override available?"
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State legislature has R majority in both houses but not enough to override.
Posted by: Cosda at May 11, 2020 12:58 PM (91jSV)
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ignoring these asshole's rules>asshole's relaxing their asshole rules
and fuck Dallas County Judge Gay Jenkins. I don't need virus advice from you.
and fuck Dallas County Judge Gay Jenkins. I don't need virus advice from you.
Posted by: x at May 11, 2020 12:58 PM (nFwvY)
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187 I've never even gotten a regular flu vaccine. I'm sure not going to start now.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (lwiT4)
Morning grammie!! One vaccination for me. Went to Cali for 2 weeks, came back with Worst Flu Ever!! The dose I got was the Wrong Guess Dose for that year. No thanks.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (lwiT4)
Morning grammie!! One vaccination for me. Went to Cali for 2 weeks, came back with Worst Flu Ever!! The dose I got was the Wrong Guess Dose for that year. No thanks.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 12:58 PM (bCLt0)
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God Bless America!
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (sX1BW)
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"Not so fast, comrades!" de facto POTUS aka random Hawaiian judge
Carnival Cruise Lines Flooded with Bookings for Return to Service in August
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God Bless America!
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 12:53 PM (sX1BW)
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"Not so fast, comrades!" de facto POTUS aka random Hawaiian judge
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (WxPaM)
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>187 I've never even gotten a regular flu vaccine. I'm sure not going to start now.
I usually don't get the annual flu shot
cant remember the last time I did
I just stay away from people
I usually don't get the annual flu shot
cant remember the last time I did
I just stay away from people
Posted by: Rudy Garcia at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (iTXRQ)
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179
Went to get my temporary cap put on this morning. I swear it looked
like I was entering an operating room. Full scrubs, hair protection,
gloves, masks. had to fill out 2 forms and have my temp taken before I
could go back.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (dUJdY)
Rectally? They say it is the most accurate
Went to get my temporary cap put on this morning. I swear it looked
like I was entering an operating room. Full scrubs, hair protection,
gloves, masks. had to fill out 2 forms and have my temp taken before I
could go back.
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 11, 2020 12:54 PM (dUJdY)
Rectally? They say it is the most accurate
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (N39Ws)
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205 You would think that HCQ would be over the counter at this point. You can't get high on it and the very limited side effects are well known.
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Run down to Mexico and buy all you want. No prescription necessary - just cash.
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Run down to Mexico and buy all you want. No prescription necessary - just cash.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (s0rgF)
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130 32 States had 10 to no deaths yesterday. Only Jersey and MassHolia had plus 100.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (s0rgF)
Ohio has 10. But come Tuesday or Wednesday it will have a spike. Seems Covid only kills on weekdays for some mysterious reason.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 12:47 PM (s0rgF)
Ohio has 10. But come Tuesday or Wednesday it will have a spike. Seems Covid only kills on weekdays for some mysterious reason.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (DLLmY)
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remdesivir is $1000/pill
Posted by: Miss Issippi
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I heard it was taken through an IV only
Posted by: Miss Issippi
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I heard it was taken through an IV only
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (Ihsvk)
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Put Hollywood in charge of the vaccine drive. It will be discovered by a gorgeous, pouting blonde in a lab coat. Her Neanderthal male colleagues will scoff, but by sheer guts and pluck she prevails and becomes a national heroine.
Put Hollywood in charge of the vaccine drive. It will be discovered by a gorgeous, pouting blonde in a lab coat. Her Neanderthal male colleagues will scoff, but by sheer guts and pluck she prevails and becomes a national heroine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (mht8P)
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Ohio has 10. But come Tuesday or Wednesday it will have a spike. Seems Covid only kills on weekdays for some mysterious reason.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (DLLmY)
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lol
Posted by: Buzzion at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (DLLmY)
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lol
Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at May 11, 2020 01:00 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 01:00 PM (vcOmj)
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>> I thought the MA rule was mandatory inside stores but if you could social distance not required outside?
OK, just checked - hoping I misunderstood, but:
Gov. Charlie Baker signed an executive order Friday requiring residents to wear masks in public, including people who take public transit and grocery shopping.
"We view this as common sense," said Baker, a Republican.
The executive order takes effect on May 6.
Masks and face coverings are mandatory in grocery stores, pharmacies and other retail shops, as well as on public transportation . . .
Face coverings are also mandatory out in parks and sidewalks, particularly in times and places where people have trouble staying at least 6 feet apart, according to the order.
Baker suggested, for example, that someone who goes out for a run at dawn likely won't need a mask because few people are around. Yet someone who goes out in the late afternoon and walks or runs in the company of others must wear a mask under the executive order because socially distancing will likely be impossible.
OK, just checked - hoping I misunderstood, but:
Gov. Charlie Baker signed an executive order Friday requiring residents to wear masks in public, including people who take public transit and grocery shopping.
"We view this as common sense," said Baker, a Republican.
The executive order takes effect on May 6.
Masks and face coverings are mandatory in grocery stores, pharmacies and other retail shops, as well as on public transportation . . .
Face coverings are also mandatory out in parks and sidewalks, particularly in times and places where people have trouble staying at least 6 feet apart, according to the order.
Baker suggested, for example, that someone who goes out for a run at dawn likely won't need a mask because few people are around. Yet someone who goes out in the late afternoon and walks or runs in the company of others must wear a mask under the executive order because socially distancing will likely be impossible.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 01:00 PM (bDqIh)
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Blue Governors are now operating under two imperatives.
1. Kill the economy because blame Trump.
B. Trump put them in charge of what happens in their states and they're terrified of The Death Count After Re-Opening.
III. Federal relief money.
1. Kill the economy because blame Trump.
B. Trump put them in charge of what happens in their states and they're terrified of The Death Count After Re-Opening.
III. Federal relief money.
Posted by: davidt at May 11, 2020 01:01 PM (l3+k2)
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Where did you see that? The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (T6t7i)
https://tinyurl.com/yd4ab5lw
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 12:55 PM (T6t7i)
https://tinyurl.com/yd4ab5lw
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:01 PM (x4XFu)
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216
Put Hollywood in charge of the vaccine drive. It will be discovered
by a gorgeous, pouting blonde in a lab coat. Her Neanderthal male
colleagues will scoff, but by sheer guts and pluck she prevails and
becomes a national heroine.
Sure, until everyone that takes it becomes a zombie dinosaur / fly cross.
Put Hollywood in charge of the vaccine drive. It will be discovered
by a gorgeous, pouting blonde in a lab coat. Her Neanderthal male
colleagues will scoff, but by sheer guts and pluck she prevails and
becomes a national heroine.
Sure, until everyone that takes it becomes a zombie dinosaur / fly cross.
Posted by: pep at May 11, 2020 01:01 PM (T6t7i)
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Palerider, I think most of those deaths were from nursing homes too, and even though they have loosened restrictions I was the only one in the grocery store without a mask on Sat. The way people looked at me, it was like I was walking through the store naked.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:01 PM (r+sAi)
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I heard it was taken through an IV only
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (Ihsvk)
You're right. Its per dose. My dad gives himself the shot for rheumatoid arthritis and I totally forgot that's how he takes it.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (Ihsvk)
You're right. Its per dose. My dad gives himself the shot for rheumatoid arthritis and I totally forgot that's how he takes it.
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (sI15f)
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"Human sacrifice"
Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to come around to the idea that the Left always projects.
Maybe it's just me, but I'm starting to come around to the idea that the Left always projects.
Posted by: Taqiyyologist at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (hkDyM)
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I never used to get vaxxed for flu. Never had it bad enough to worry about.
Untill 2017 and I got that H2N3 crap. Holy hell that was horrrible. 2 weeks out from work. Could have easily been 4. I actually passed out on the couch from coughing. Fever, chills, aches. My frickin HAIR hurt. My bronchials are still easily irritated.
I personally know THREE people that died from that shit.
I get my flu shot now.
I never used to get vaxxed for flu. Never had it bad enough to worry about.
Untill 2017 and I got that H2N3 crap. Holy hell that was horrrible. 2 weeks out from work. Could have easily been 4. I actually passed out on the couch from coughing. Fever, chills, aches. My frickin HAIR hurt. My bronchials are still easily irritated.
I personally know THREE people that died from that shit.
I get my flu shot now.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (nw6Hr)
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Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Everyone has their Own Truth.
Everyone has their Own Truth.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (oVJmc)
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off sox
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (JFO2v)
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Remdisivir or something like that. I've heard a lot of high profile leftists are heavily invested in the company that makes it.
Block the cheap preventative, force people to use the expensive one, and get billions for your pet causes.
These people are evil.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est
Bill Gates, among others, is heavily invested.
The Bill Gates RNA vaccine model is patterned after Microsoft software.
You will need an update. A new version next year. Oops, have to reboot your life support.
Sorry, you're dead. The blue screen of death, literally.
Block the cheap preventative, force people to use the expensive one, and get billions for your pet causes.
These people are evil.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est
Bill Gates, among others, is heavily invested.
The Bill Gates RNA vaccine model is patterned after Microsoft software.
You will need an update. A new version next year. Oops, have to reboot your life support.
Sorry, you're dead. The blue screen of death, literally.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....unfrozen caveman moron at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (vcOmj)
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The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
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They will turn to piracy. Happens all the time.
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They will turn to piracy. Happens all the time.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (s0rgF)
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There was even some asshole poster on here DEFENDING
the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his
nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
One of them was the Troll "Seattle Slough", who used to come here
and cry about all the millions who were going to die. I doubt he'll be
back, at least not under that name. There were others who've gone
quiet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (trdmm)
There was that remote submersible fellow, too.
the use of 80% infection rate. He gone now. I wish I could remember his
nic. That asshole was particularly annoying.
ha ha it was "it begins..."
Posted by: WolfsCaptiveBlackOrchid at May 11, 2020 12:43 PM (j9HX3)
One of them was the Troll "Seattle Slough", who used to come here
and cry about all the millions who were going to die. I doubt he'll be
back, at least not under that name. There were others who've gone
quiet.
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 12:49 PM (trdmm)
There was that remote submersible fellow, too.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (kOpft)
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I would like someone to show me medical evidence that wearing a mask outside in the park reduces infection. Thank you.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (lwiT4)
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Put Hollywood in charge of the vaccine drive. It will be discovered by a gorgeous, pouting blonde in a lab coat. Her Neanderthal male colleagues will scoff, but by sheer guts and pluck she prevails and becomes a national heroine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
And then marry her girlfriend, Terry, the tatted up, nose ringed, pro roller derby player and ride off into the sunset in the convertible Subaru.
Put Hollywood in charge of the vaccine drive. It will be discovered by a gorgeous, pouting blonde in a lab coat. Her Neanderthal male colleagues will scoff, but by sheer guts and pluck she prevails and becomes a national heroine.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh
And then marry her girlfriend, Terry, the tatted up, nose ringed, pro roller derby player and ride off into the sunset in the convertible Subaru.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (Di/+v)
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202 "And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing."
on paper ... yes. But when one early gov worker retired neighbor laughs that his neighbor (put out of business by shut down and having to fund six figure golden mafia pensions) is putting out his for sale sign ... the arrogant rich retiree may get more direct pain.
In time those that got gold pension by funding the Mafia that runs the state will (should be) seen as direct threats to America ... just as Nazis or other commies in the past. "Ha Ha, we used government to get eternal easy street, while you worked your ass off and still lost your business" ... met with a gun shot ... the shot heard round the world ... kill the Golden Boys (retired on six figures, paid for by bankrupting the proles) it is the only answer they will "listen to".
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (Cus5s)
Where I think the real breakdown will happen is when Illinois simply doesn't have enough cash, and they have to choose between paying retirees, or current employees. I think the current employees win that fight, because they always do. And we haven't even started on Chicago welfare recipients - think they're gonna sit around while a bunch of rick old white guys take their dough?
on paper ... yes. But when one early gov worker retired neighbor laughs that his neighbor (put out of business by shut down and having to fund six figure golden mafia pensions) is putting out his for sale sign ... the arrogant rich retiree may get more direct pain.
In time those that got gold pension by funding the Mafia that runs the state will (should be) seen as direct threats to America ... just as Nazis or other commies in the past. "Ha Ha, we used government to get eternal easy street, while you worked your ass off and still lost your business" ... met with a gun shot ... the shot heard round the world ... kill the Golden Boys (retired on six figures, paid for by bankrupting the proles) it is the only answer they will "listen to".
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (Cus5s)
Where I think the real breakdown will happen is when Illinois simply doesn't have enough cash, and they have to choose between paying retirees, or current employees. I think the current employees win that fight, because they always do. And we haven't even started on Chicago welfare recipients - think they're gonna sit around while a bunch of rick old white guys take their dough?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (trdmm)
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No face mask? That will cost you 100 Social Credits, citizen.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (ysC0S)
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Seems Covid only kills on weekdays for some mysterious reason.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (DLLmY)
Hey, even viruses need some R&R!
Seems Covid only kills on weekdays for some mysterious reason.
Posted by: Buzzion at May 11, 2020 12:59 PM (DLLmY)
Hey, even viruses need some R&R!
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (mht8P)
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Keep those Chinee yen comin' in!
Posted by: Gov. Charlie Baker at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (EgshT)
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Baker suggested, for example, that someone who goes out for a run at dawn likely won't need a mask because few people are around. Yet someone who goes out in the late afternoon and walks or runs in the company of others must wear a mask under the executive order because socially distancing will likely be impossible.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 01:00 PM (bDqIh)
I guess the science about needing to be within 6 feet FOR 15 MINUTES OR MORE is no longer valid. They keep blinding us with science.
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 01:00 PM (bDqIh)
I guess the science about needing to be within 6 feet FOR 15 MINUTES OR MORE is no longer valid. They keep blinding us with science.
Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (Ti+Tv)
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I would like someone to show me medical evidence that wearing a mask outside in the park reduces infection. Thank you.
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Grammie, I don't care if they have evidence. I ain't doing it.
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Grammie, I don't care if they have evidence. I ain't doing it.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (sX1BW)
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Ohio has 10. But come Tuesday or Wednesday it will have a spike. Seems Covid only kills on weekdays for some mysterious reason.
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Gimme my overtime, or no spreadsheet updates!
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Gimme my overtime, or no spreadsheet updates!
Posted by: The Bureaucracy at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (t0JR5)
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Is that Thomas Frank that Taibbi quotes the same boring dipshit that used to write a insomnia curing token lefty column in the WSJ? I don't think we should let him in the funhouse.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (y7DUB)
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There was that remote submersible fellow, too.
Posted by: Methos
__________
That guy was wrong about everything.
I guess we should be honored that Soros thinks this place is worth spreading FUD
Posted by: Methos
__________
That guy was wrong about everything.
I guess we should be honored that Soros thinks this place is worth spreading FUD
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (Ihsvk)
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Those surprised with Chuck Todd's blatant lying about Bill Barr puzzle me.
He runs a progressive advocacy show, not a news show, and isn't shy about saying it.
1/2/19 Chuck Todd, host of NBC's Meet The Press, used his bully pulpit to deny any opportunity for opponents of climate change activists to appear while he devoted his entire show to climate change, saying, "We're not going to give time to climate deniers." https://t.co/IT5a39i6AN
The only question is why any conservative or Republican would even go on his show and give him the cover of credibility.
He runs a progressive advocacy show, not a news show, and isn't shy about saying it.
1/2/19 Chuck Todd, host of NBC's Meet The Press, used his bully pulpit to deny any opportunity for opponents of climate change activists to appear while he devoted his entire show to climate change, saying, "We're not going to give time to climate deniers." https://t.co/IT5a39i6AN
The only question is why any conservative or Republican would even go on his show and give him the cover of credibility.
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (FBrfY)
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The Karens will declare victory either way.
Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (svbBD)
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232 I would like someone to show me medical evidence that wearing a mask outside in the park reduces infection. Thank you.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (lwiT4)
that question is RAYCISSS!!!!
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (lwiT4)
that question is RAYCISSS!!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (trdmm)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (mht8P)
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Face masks are Progressive Virtue Signaling, ofttimes. Seems that way to me.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM (bCLt0)
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Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (nw6Hr)
I said I would start getting the flu shot when I turned 60. That day is right around the corner. Time flies a SR-71.
I said I would start getting the flu shot when I turned 60. That day is right around the corner. Time flies a SR-71.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 01:05 PM (2DOZq)
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232 I would like someone to show me medical evidence that wearing a mask outside in the park reduces infection. Thank you.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (lwiT4)
It will keep you from getting a Karen on your ass, which is more painful than a boil.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (lwiT4)
It will keep you from getting a Karen on your ass, which is more painful than a boil.
Posted by: Roy at May 11, 2020 01:05 PM (Ti+Tv)
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Mark Cuban decided it was his job to hire "secret shoppers" to go around Dallas and report back on how opened businesses were handing new guidelines in their facilities.
Fuck YOU, Mark Cuban.
Stick it in your ear and blow it out your ass.
Fuck YOU, Mark Cuban.
Stick it in your ear and blow it out your ass.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 01:05 PM (Zz0t1)
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At Manresa State Beach (6 blocks from my house) this weekend:
26 year old surfer killed by great white shark.
Drone photographer observed dozens of great whites swimming near the shoreline in recent days.
SANTA CRUZ COUNTY HEALTH OFFICIALS CONCERNED SHARK MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO COVID AS SURFER WAS NOT WEARING A MASK
Too soon?
26 year old surfer killed by great white shark.
Drone photographer observed dozens of great whites swimming near the shoreline in recent days.
SANTA CRUZ COUNTY HEALTH OFFICIALS CONCERNED SHARK MAY HAVE BEEN EXPOSED TO COVID AS SURFER WAS NOT WEARING A MASK
Too soon?
Posted by: wth at May 11, 2020 01:05 PM (v0R5T)
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I would like someone to show me medical evidence that wearing a mask outside in the park reduces infection. Thank you.
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Hell. A month ago the CDC was telling everybody DONT WEAR MASKS.... ESPECIALLY CLOTH ONES. THEY ARE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.
Now..... today?? THEY ARE TOTALLY MANDATORY.
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Hell. A month ago the CDC was telling everybody DONT WEAR MASKS.... ESPECIALLY CLOTH ONES. THEY ARE TOTALLY INEFFECTIVE.
Now..... today?? THEY ARE TOTALLY MANDATORY.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:05 PM (nw6Hr)
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Face masks are Progressive Virtue Signaling, ofttimes. Seems that way to me.
It makes me feel safe.
It makes me feel safe.
Posted by: Gov. Charlie Baker at May 11, 2020 01:05 PM (EgshT)
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If masks are so effective, then everybody puts on a mask and goes back to work. Right?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (lwiT4)
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199 Don't forget to wear your Freedom Masks, citizens.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (ADuZP)
I'm not as opposed to masks as a lot of people. They fuck up facial recognition software like nobody's business.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 12:56 PM (ADuZP)
I'm not as opposed to masks as a lot of people. They fuck up facial recognition software like nobody's business.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (J+mig)
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so with Ezra Cohen- Watnick going back to Pentagon, Does that make them Better Than Ezra? I will leave myself out
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (Lrula)
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65 Colorado's official death toll is nearly 1000. Quite a few for 6 million population compared to Texas.
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AZ has 542 deaths, in a state population of @ 7-1/2 million.
The hotter weather in the southern states may make a difference. Mexico, a country of @ 126 million, reports only 3,500 WuFlu deaths.
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AZ has 542 deaths, in a state population of @ 7-1/2 million.
The hotter weather in the southern states may make a difference. Mexico, a country of @ 126 million, reports only 3,500 WuFlu deaths.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (k4dH2)
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In a post on Twitter, Kristol wrote:
Straightforward from here:
* President Trump has to self-quarantine due to possible exposure to coronavirus, can't fulfill duties of presidency in quarantine, steps down.
* VP Pence has to self-quarantine, can't fulfill duties of vice presidency, steps down.
* President Pelosi.
(with a wink emoji)
-- Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) May 9, 2020
Yes, Kristol is hoping that America's president and vice president get so sick they have to leave office, and he's hoping Pelosi gets to take over, so much does he hate Trump.
dailywire excerpt
Could they get any sicker?
They dream of this stuff.
What miserable lives they have.
Straightforward from here:
* President Trump has to self-quarantine due to possible exposure to coronavirus, can't fulfill duties of presidency in quarantine, steps down.
* VP Pence has to self-quarantine, can't fulfill duties of vice presidency, steps down.
* President Pelosi.
(with a wink emoji)
-- Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) May 9, 2020
Yes, Kristol is hoping that America's president and vice president get so sick they have to leave office, and he's hoping Pelosi gets to take over, so much does he hate Trump.
dailywire excerpt
Could they get any sicker?
They dream of this stuff.
What miserable lives they have.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (x4XFu)
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Yes, it was a finger wagging in your face.
Backed by a police force willing to tackle and arrest you if you rejected what's best for you.
Backed by a police force willing to tackle and arrest you if you rejected what's best for you.
Posted by: RoyalOil at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (aO8Gd)
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"The rebound of the market has been wonderful to behold.
Not every stock everywhere, but the market is strong and wants to go.
The American people want to work and want the economy to work and want the market to work."
don't underestimate the power of $6-15T in Gov Stimulus going to work, backstopping every bad debt, buying all the junk ...
Where we go after weaker small business is driven out ... is the question. There can be no globalist New Normal allowed ... eff them and their NWO plans. But we may bring back supply chains and remove foreign ownership of critical infrastructure controls (drugs, food processing, tech, etc.).
This may require government involvement (who attends our top level tech universities? do we keep training China to replace US, AND just give them all the tech US taxpayer pays for? so far, yes we do). A Great Awakening to the Globalism threat needs to happen ... Taibi may see some of it ... All Media is anti-America .. except for pockets of resistance (pieces of Fox, but they are still censored).
Not every stock everywhere, but the market is strong and wants to go.
The American people want to work and want the economy to work and want the market to work."
don't underestimate the power of $6-15T in Gov Stimulus going to work, backstopping every bad debt, buying all the junk ...
Where we go after weaker small business is driven out ... is the question. There can be no globalist New Normal allowed ... eff them and their NWO plans. But we may bring back supply chains and remove foreign ownership of critical infrastructure controls (drugs, food processing, tech, etc.).
This may require government involvement (who attends our top level tech universities? do we keep training China to replace US, AND just give them all the tech US taxpayer pays for? so far, yes we do). A Great Awakening to the Globalism threat needs to happen ... Taibi may see some of it ... All Media is anti-America .. except for pockets of resistance (pieces of Fox, but they are still censored).
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (Cus5s)
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Got an illegal haircut in Los Angeles this weekend. Money changed hands for services and it felt real good. To hell with Newsom.
There are a lot of blue-voting, virtue signalling people on the west side of L.A. in particular who are getting their lives ruined good and hard. They need to wake up and start fighting for themselves. Because their rich clients and their government don't give a shit if they live or die as businesses or people.
There are a lot of blue-voting, virtue signalling people on the west side of L.A. in particular who are getting their lives ruined good and hard. They need to wake up and start fighting for themselves. Because their rich clients and their government don't give a shit if they live or die as businesses or people.
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (uhPTO)
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So ABC tweets this:
@ABC
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
@ABC
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
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I so want someone to say something about me not wearing a mask, so I can tell them I am not a muslim.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (r+sAi)
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230 The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
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They will turn to piracy. Happens all the time.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (s0rgF)
I have a vision of the great Cruise ships of the Caribbean, gone rogue and hunting down catamarans and the like to feed off of them...
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They will turn to piracy. Happens all the time.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (s0rgF)
I have a vision of the great Cruise ships of the Caribbean, gone rogue and hunting down catamarans and the like to feed off of them...
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (trdmm)
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China Admits Coronavirus Cases Appearing Again in Wuhan
lol, I say it never left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM
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Yep. Tried to explain that to my buddy this morning, this $hit is not going away even if we somehow miraculously get a vaccine for it, which I doubt will happen.
It is going to keep coming back every year, just like the swine and bird flu's do.
Now that we have herd immunity for those two viruses they hardly kill anyone except the extremely vulnerable.
We need to get everyone exposed to this and let nature take it's course just like we have done for the past 10,000 years.
China Admits Coronavirus Cases Appearing Again in Wuhan
lol, I say it never left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 12:52 PM
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Yep. Tried to explain that to my buddy this morning, this $hit is not going away even if we somehow miraculously get a vaccine for it, which I doubt will happen.
It is going to keep coming back every year, just like the swine and bird flu's do.
Now that we have herd immunity for those two viruses they hardly kill anyone except the extremely vulnerable.
We need to get everyone exposed to this and let nature take it's course just like we have done for the past 10,000 years.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (JUOKG)
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167 China Admits Coronavirus Cases Appearing Again in Wuhan
lol, I say it never left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Just a guess---Red China is pushing out some evil BS, so that the screaming little schoolgirls in the media and the blue states and all the public health experts will lock us down some more, because the virus "reappears" after lockdowns end.
lol, I say it never left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
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Just a guess---Red China is pushing out some evil BS, so that the screaming little schoolgirls in the media and the blue states and all the public health experts will lock us down some more, because the virus "reappears" after lockdowns end.
Posted by: Furious George at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (9vQJW)
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254 If masks are so effective, then everybody puts on a mask and goes back to work. Right?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (lwiT4)
That should be exactly our stance. We get 95% of what we want, right out of the box.
We get the other 5% a few weeks from now, when the hysteria has gone down.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:06 PM (lwiT4)
That should be exactly our stance. We get 95% of what we want, right out of the box.
We get the other 5% a few weeks from now, when the hysteria has gone down.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (J+mig)
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Dr. Chuck Schumer says hydroxychloroquine is ineffective against Covid-19.
Someone should ask him what his Final Solution is.
Someone should ask him what his Final Solution is.
Posted by: Captain Hate at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (y7DUB)
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One of the gang at the gas station went to Walmart for a haircut, and it seems Walmart is concerned. The shop at the local super center was taking temps, requiring customers to mask, and wanting name, address, phone number and dob. A lot of customers were concerned also. He said the walkoff rate, along with a few fuck yous was pretty high.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (C1Lsn)
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Social Credit. Sort of like " Good morning, Mr. Dallas. You have 5 points left on your license. Have a Nice Day". ( Obscure reference).
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (bCLt0)
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dr, bright the whistleblower so called, worked for novamex which was given an exclusive contract by the gates foundation to develop nanoflu?? vaccine, 89 million, he's tied up with the who up to his elbows, his department owes to a bill sponsored by Richard burr, mark warner's sock puppet on the intelligenence committee
Posted by: gaius martius at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (hMlTh)
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Brix says CDC inflating numbers more than 25%!
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 11, 2020 01:08 PM (JFO2v)
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I don't want any laws regarding face masks.
That being said, I'm not opposed to say a food service employee having one, almost like a hair net.
If I worked with the general public, I'd probably wear one, and I'm in the "this is like 2 flus" camp.
That being said, I'm not opposed to say a food service employee having one, almost like a hair net.
If I worked with the general public, I'd probably wear one, and I'm in the "this is like 2 flus" camp.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 01:08 PM (Ihsvk)
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I visited Denver for a few days late last year. Cool place. But they seemed like the kind of fey hippies who would succumb to the uncommon cold and die. Reminded me of Austin. Whole lotta soy.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 11, 2020 01:08 PM (H5knJ)
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No face mask? That will cost you 100 Social Credits, citizen.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (ysC0S)
Walk around without one until a leftie screams at you, then whip out the MAGA face mask.
https://tinyurl.com/y8ggaewx
heh
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc.,etc. at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (ysC0S)
Walk around without one until a leftie screams at you, then whip out the MAGA face mask.
https://tinyurl.com/y8ggaewx
heh
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:08 PM (x4XFu)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
OFFS....
What the hell? Whatever Grenell has drop all of it now!
OFFS....
What the hell? Whatever Grenell has drop all of it now!
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 01:09 PM (Zmnko)
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Texas Numbers:
513,978
Total Tests
17,086
Public Labs
496,892
Private Labs
Lab Confirmed COVID-19 Patients
1,525
Currently In Texas Hospitals
38,869
Cases Reported
1,088
Fatalities
Estimated*
21,022
Patients Recovered
Estimated*
16,759
Active Cases
Population: 30 Million
513,978
Total Tests
17,086
Public Labs
496,892
Private Labs
Lab Confirmed COVID-19 Patients
1,525
Currently In Texas Hospitals
38,869
Cases Reported
1,088
Fatalities
Estimated*
21,022
Patients Recovered
Estimated*
16,759
Active Cases
Population: 30 Million
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 01:09 PM (Zz0t1)
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262 So ABC tweets this:
@ABC
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
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2,000 former DOJ Officials at the bottom of the see seems like good start. Nice of them to volunteer for the helo rides.
@ABC
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
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2,000 former DOJ Officials at the bottom of the see seems like good start. Nice of them to volunteer for the helo rides.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 01:09 PM (s0rgF)
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That should be exactly our stance. We get 95% of what we want, right out of the box.
We get the other 5% a few weeks from now, when the hysteria has gone down.
Posted by: Cato
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It's a decent strategy, but they won't get their UBI, which is what a lot of this is about.
You get 60 million people hooked on UBI, and Democrats win every election for eternity.
We get the other 5% a few weeks from now, when the hysteria has gone down.
Posted by: Cato
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It's a decent strategy, but they won't get their UBI, which is what a lot of this is about.
You get 60 million people hooked on UBI, and Democrats win every election for eternity.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 01:09 PM (Ihsvk)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:09 PM (mht8P)
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The thing I get from 2000 former doj officials is that government is too damn big.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (r+sAi)
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Brix says CDC inflating numbers more than 25%!
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 11, 2020 01:08 PM (JFO2v)
Fauci says CDC underreporting numbers more than 25% . ( okay I made that up but that's what he wants to say)
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at May 11, 2020 01:08 PM (JFO2v)
Fauci says CDC underreporting numbers more than 25% . ( okay I made that up but that's what he wants to say)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (2DOZq)
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270
Social Credit. Sort of like " Good morning, Mr. Dallas. You have 5
points left on your license. Have a Nice Day". ( Obscure reference).
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (bCLt0)
I'm Corbin Dallas, no I'm Corbin Dallas
Social Credit. Sort of like " Good morning, Mr. Dallas. You have 5
points left on your license. Have a Nice Day". ( Obscure reference).
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (bCLt0)
I'm Corbin Dallas, no I'm Corbin Dallas
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (DjiZK)
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China Admits Coronavirus Cases Appearing Again in Wuhan
lol, I say it never left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Trust NOTHING coming out of China (infowise). NOTHING.
They want Trump GONE in November. They will lie, cheat and steal everything possible to make that happen.
lol, I say it never left.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette
Trust NOTHING coming out of China (infowise). NOTHING.
They want Trump GONE in November. They will lie, cheat and steal everything possible to make that happen.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (Zz0t1)
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269 One of the gang at the gas station went to Walmart for a haircut, and it seems Walmart is concerned. The shop at the local super center was taking temps, requiring customers to mask, and wanting name, address, phone number and dob. A lot of customers were concerned also. He said the walkoff rate, along with a few fuck yous was pretty high.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (C1Lsn)
Yeah. Knuckling under for that kind of bullshit by so many is what depresses me the most.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (C1Lsn)
Yeah. Knuckling under for that kind of bullshit by so many is what depresses me the most.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (bCLt0)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
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It's almost like the Justice Dept. is saturated with Democrat leftists.
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It's almost like the Justice Dept. is saturated with Democrat leftists.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (O+I8R)
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Those empty cruise ships could be good prison hulks for the Intel community.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM
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Those things are going to start going to the scrapyards soon.
The Cruise ship industry as we currently know it is dead and will not come back in the same form that it was.
Some of them will survive, but none of them will come out of this unscathed. And they will never have the same number of passengers as they had before this started. Way too many people will not book cruises now due to fear.
And to think, if they had played by the rules and registered their business in the US they would have gotten bail outs.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:04 PM
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Those things are going to start going to the scrapyards soon.
The Cruise ship industry as we currently know it is dead and will not come back in the same form that it was.
Some of them will survive, but none of them will come out of this unscathed. And they will never have the same number of passengers as they had before this started. Way too many people will not book cruises now due to fear.
And to think, if they had played by the rules and registered their business in the US they would have gotten bail outs.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (JUOKG)
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Baker suggested, for example, that someone who goes out for a run at dawn likely won't need a mask because few people are around
So, it's not mandatory if you can effectively social distance. At least that's the way I read it. I was walking at 2 pm yesterday and maybe 25% had masks on. Lots of people walking in small groups without masks.
I am so tired of this.
Baker suggested, for example, that someone who goes out for a run at dawn likely won't need a mask because few people are around
So, it's not mandatory if you can effectively social distance. At least that's the way I read it. I was walking at 2 pm yesterday and maybe 25% had masks on. Lots of people walking in small groups without masks.
I am so tired of this.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (QzF6i)
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I'm Corbin Dallas, no I'm Corbin Dallas
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (DjiZ
LeeLoo Dallas multipass
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (DjiZ
LeeLoo Dallas multipass
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (Zmnko)
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286 JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
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It's almost like the Justice Dept. is saturated with Democrat leftists.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (O+I8R)
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I have been assured that the civil service is filled with nonpartisan professionals only.
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It's almost like the Justice Dept. is saturated with Democrat leftists.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (O+I8R)
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I have been assured that the civil service is filled with nonpartisan professionals only.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:12 PM (LvTSG)
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If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
and here is Meet the Press's faux apology for their fake news edit of Barr
You're correct. Earlier today, we inadvertently and inaccurately cut short a video clip of an interview with AG Barr before offering commentary and analysis. The remaining clip included important remarks from the attorney general that we missed, and we regret the error.
-- Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) May 10, 2020
we regret the error that we are not even going to explain
All Media On Deck until Election Day!
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
and here is Meet the Press's faux apology for their fake news edit of Barr
You're correct. Earlier today, we inadvertently and inaccurately cut short a video clip of an interview with AG Barr before offering commentary and analysis. The remaining clip included important remarks from the attorney general that we missed, and we regret the error.
-- Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) May 10, 2020
we regret the error that we are not even going to explain
All Media On Deck until Election Day!
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:12 PM (x4XFu)
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289 I'm Corbin Dallas, no I'm Corbin Dallas
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (DjiZ
LeeLoo Dallas multipass
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (Zmnko)
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ZORG
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at May 11, 2020 01:10 PM (DjiZ
LeeLoo Dallas multipass
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (Zmnko)
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ZORG
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:12 PM (LvTSG)
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Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials seem to sign a lot of shit.
Those nearly 2000 Justice Dept. Officials need a new hobby.
Those nearly 2000 Justice Dept. Officials need a new hobby.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:12 PM (+7yf7)
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276 JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
OFFS....
What the hell? Whatever Grenell has drop all of it now!
Posted by: It's me donna
Former Justice Dept. officials. "Former" is the key word. You can add Democrat Apparatchiks if you want.
OFFS....
What the hell? Whatever Grenell has drop all of it now!
Posted by: It's me donna
Former Justice Dept. officials. "Former" is the key word. You can add Democrat Apparatchiks if you want.
Posted by: Puddleglum at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (Di/+v)
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (X/Pw5)
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The DOJ has 113,000 employees.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (2DOZq)
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The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
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They will turn to piracy. Happens all the time.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Assault on a Queen
www.imdb.com/title/tt0060135/
The pictures of fleets of cruise ships anchored in pods in the Caribbean were amazing. There is real concern that the industry will never recover. (not on my part, though)
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They will turn to piracy. Happens all the time.
Posted by: Puddin Head
Assault on a Queen
www.imdb.com/title/tt0060135/
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (aKsyK)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
I guess that leaked Obama Alumni Network conference call had a lot of people on it, coordinating this response.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
I guess that leaked Obama Alumni Network conference call had a lot of people on it, coordinating this response.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (iuFgi)
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290 286 . . . I have been assured that the civil service is filled with nonpartisan professionals only.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower
_____________
You doubt us?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower
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You doubt us?
Posted by: 99% Of All FBI Agents Who Are So Honest And Hardworking That It Fucking Boggles The Mind at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (9vQJW)
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There was a commercial on tv recently that horrified me. It said ( voice over) that Pres. Trump let the best economy of recent history turn into depression era unemployment because he acted too slow when confronted by the Chinese flu, and due to that, allowed so many people to die! Granted I live in Gretchen Witmer Michigan, but the commercial was disgusting even for the dnc. Add to that is that Obama minions have been calling into talk shows saying the economy , when it was good, was the Obama economy.
Posted by: Chillin the most at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (lonOK)
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I've figured out my intrinsic, visceral reaction to all of these safety measures. Like, I'm inordinately furious that the Dallas salon owner (as an example) is talking about how it was okay for her to reopen because she was "taking all the precautions," like wearing a mask and gloves.
There is no freaking justification for these safety measures. I do not need to genuflect to some busybody's new idea of what is safe and socially acceptable. Screw all of that and screw all of those people. They were wrong. Their thoughts are wrong. Their actions are wrong. They are wrong and evil and I am not going to pretend that there is any underlying justification that makes them even minimally less wrong and evil.
This was 100% unnecessary, and I am not going to even fake that it was 5% necessary. I am sure as shooting not going to allow any of those people to order me to do anything, whether that's wearing a mask or staying 6 feet away or limiting where and when I go somewhere. No. Never. No.
There is no freaking justification for these safety measures. I do not need to genuflect to some busybody's new idea of what is safe and socially acceptable. Screw all of that and screw all of those people. They were wrong. Their thoughts are wrong. Their actions are wrong. They are wrong and evil and I am not going to pretend that there is any underlying justification that makes them even minimally less wrong and evil.
This was 100% unnecessary, and I am not going to even fake that it was 5% necessary. I am sure as shooting not going to allow any of those people to order me to do anything, whether that's wearing a mask or staying 6 feet away or limiting where and when I go somewhere. No. Never. No.
Posted by: sunny-dee at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (Z2HD7)
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Zombie, I would have called the cops on the leftist party. Make them live by their own rules... I think some fellow called Alinsky said it.
We have to play just as dirty or we are going to lose and have a leftist boot on our throats forever.
We have to play just as dirty or we are going to lose and have a leftist boot on our throats forever.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (pw+jk)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign
Are these 'current or former' officials? Or can they all go on the firing list?
Are these 'current or former' officials? Or can they all go on the firing list?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (oVJmc)
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Everybody knows the answer to what do you have when there are 2000 former doj officials in a fiery pit?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (r+sAi)
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141 @seanmdav
James Clapper, who could end up as a prime suspect in John Durham's hunt for the illegal leaker of the Flynn-Kislyak calls, says he never briefed Obama about them ahead of a key Oval Office meeting. But both McCabe and Comey said Clapper did. Who's lying
https://tinyurl.com/y8rcxsba
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 12:48 PM (cF8AT)
I think the solution is obvious. Immediate waterboarding.
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Oh wait. Were we supposed to ask questions?
141 @seanmdav
James Clapper, who could end up as a prime suspect in John Durham's hunt for the illegal leaker of the Flynn-Kislyak calls, says he never briefed Obama about them ahead of a key Oval Office meeting. But both McCabe and Comey said Clapper did. Who's lying
https://tinyurl.com/y8rcxsba
Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 12:48 PM (cF8AT)
I think the solution is obvious. Immediate waterboarding.
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Oh wait. Were we supposed to ask questions?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (EGyGV)
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>>Are these 'current or former' officials? Or can they all go on the firing list?
Former. Lots of draining going on.
Former. Lots of draining going on.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (ZLI7S)
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So, it's not mandatory if you can effectively social distance. At least that's the way I read it. I was walking at 2 pm yesterday and maybe 25% had masks on. Lots of people walking in small groups without masks.
I am so tired of this.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (QzF6i)
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"Sir We highly recomommend you wear a mask".
ME: Ok.... IF Im asymptomatic, or Im filtering somebody elses COVID into my mask.... Im concentrating live virus. That makes my mask bio hazard waste.
May I see your Bio-hazard disposal containers, logs and decantaminiation facilities so I can decontaminate after I touch my now biohazardous mask and ensure my mask is properly disposed of??
Oh..... you dont have ANY of that???
I am so tired of this.
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at May 11, 2020 01:11 PM (QzF6i)
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"Sir We highly recomommend you wear a mask".
ME: Ok.... IF Im asymptomatic, or Im filtering somebody elses COVID into my mask.... Im concentrating live virus. That makes my mask bio hazard waste.
May I see your Bio-hazard disposal containers, logs and decantaminiation facilities so I can decontaminate after I touch my now biohazardous mask and ensure my mask is properly disposed of??
Oh..... you dont have ANY of that???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (nw6Hr)
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The elite never learned from Prohibition
But then again the Karens of the 1920's tended to be found floating face down in a lake or canal
But then again the Karens of the 1920's tended to be found floating face down in a lake or canal
Posted by: kbdabear at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (qAR6u)
309
DOJ officials sounds so much more serious than DOJ employees.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (8jtwY)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
DoJ is prosecuting. Barr heads DoJ.
DoJ is prosecuting. Barr heads DoJ.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (oVJmc)
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295 Empty cruise ships in Caribbean.
https://tinyurl.com/yd98smzu
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (X/Pw5)
I feel bad for the staff stuck on those ships.
https://tinyurl.com/yd98smzu
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (X/Pw5)
I feel bad for the staff stuck on those ships.
Posted by: Jordan61 at May 11, 2020 01:16 PM (Ez6QX)
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Fauci is too busy conning people into avoiding the $.50 treatment that works in favor of the $5000 that doesn't.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (kOpft)
Yeah. He owns the patent for the expensive treatment. The expensive treatment was, BTW, developed while he on government payroll.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (kOpft)
Yeah. He owns the patent for the expensive treatment. The expensive treatment was, BTW, developed while he on government payroll.
Posted by: G. Gnome at May 11, 2020 01:16 PM (OQcPl)
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Those things are going to start going to the scrapyards soon.
The Cruise ship industry as we currently know it is dead and will not come back in the same form that it was.
Some of them will survive, but none of them will come out of this unscathed. And they will never have the same number of passengers as they had before this started. Way too many people will not book cruises now due to fear.
And to think, if they had played by the rules and registered their business in the US they would have gotten bail outs.
Posted by: Mr. Scott
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Cruise ships are disgusting, good riddance.
Twice my family has gotten badly sick on those things, it's a petri dish.
The Cruise ship industry as we currently know it is dead and will not come back in the same form that it was.
Some of them will survive, but none of them will come out of this unscathed. And they will never have the same number of passengers as they had before this started. Way too many people will not book cruises now due to fear.
And to think, if they had played by the rules and registered their business in the US they would have gotten bail outs.
Posted by: Mr. Scott
________________
Cruise ships are disgusting, good riddance.
Twice my family has gotten badly sick on those things, it's a petri dish.
Posted by: Blago at May 11, 2020 01:16 PM (Ihsvk)
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309 DOJ officials sounds so much more serious than DOJ employees.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (8jtwY)
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*Correction: All DOJ officials are former janitors in the DOJ building.*
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at May 11, 2020 01:15 PM (8jtwY)
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*Correction: All DOJ officials are former janitors in the DOJ building.*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:16 PM (LvTSG)
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F. Chuck Todd on NBC gets caught with a deceptive edit of Barr's words, followed by commentary on the selected words. Jeebus. But simply one in a long series by The Media.
It's gotten to the point where PDT and everyone working for him need to raise a hand up beside their face while speaking, so that any clip beginning or ending with the hand fully-up is clearly just a portion of what they said.
It's gotten to the point where PDT and everyone working for him need to raise a hand up beside their face while speaking, so that any clip beginning or ending with the hand fully-up is clearly just a portion of what they said.
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (AMIL/)
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Everybody knows the answer to what do you have when there are 2000 former doj officials in a fiery pit?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (r+sAi)
Grab the marshmallows and make s'mores?
Everybody knows the answer to what do you have when there are 2000 former doj officials in a fiery pit?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (r+sAi)
Grab the marshmallows and make s'mores?
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (EGyGV)
317
I've decided I'm allergic to the COVID vaccine
Posted by: vmom here's Gen Flynn's book at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (G546f)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
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Remember when all the straight shooters at the FBI did that when they found out what their agency was up to?
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Remember when all the straight shooters at the FBI did that when they found out what their agency was up to?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19 at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (ADuZP)
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"We have a lot of dumb people in this country. But the difference between the stupidities cherished by the Idiocracy set ingesting fish cleaner, and the ones pushed in places like the Atlantic, is that the jackasses among the "expert" class compound their wrongness by being so sure of themselves that they force others to go along."
I think that the 'Idocracy set' will be reduced by one when the Black Widow who gave her hubby fish cleaner gets indicted for murder.
I think that the 'Idocracy set' will be reduced by one when the Black Widow who gave her hubby fish cleaner gets indicted for murder.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (iuFgi)
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I guess that leaked Obama Alumni Network conference call had a lot of people on it, coordinating this response.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (iuFgi)
I just heard there were about 3000 on the call.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM (iuFgi)
I just heard there were about 3000 on the call.
Posted by: Fox2! at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (qyH+l)
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Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case
2000 counts of obstruction of justice
2000 counts of obstruction of justice
Posted by: x at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (nFwvY)
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So we have a list of 2,000 names? Send a pink slip to each name on the list.
Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (gmo/4)
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They are purposely paralyzing a lot of major companies in NY and NJ. We now have lawyers looking at this to try and determine what risks and liabilities we have if people go back to work. We have teams of people trying to come up with measures that everyone believes are adequate. We have focus teams asking employees questions about coming back to work. The entire shitshow is lining up people who are scared and never want to come back and people threatening to sue if they come back and get sick
Posted by: Marcus T at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (VpIIl)
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We have a lot of dumb people in this country. But the difference between the stupidities cherished by the Idiocracy set ingesting fish cleaner, and the ones pushed in places like the Atlantic, is that the jackasses among the "expert" class compound their wrongness by being so sure of themselves that they force others to go along. In other words, to combat "ignorance," the scolders create a new and more virulent species of it: exclusive ignorance, forced ignorance, ignorance with staying power.
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This is it, in a nutshell.
Regardless of what bent of authoritarianism the enemy prefers, the means are always the same. They may differ in goals (the folks at the Atlantic want communism. The NT former right want neocon big statism + foreign adventurism with a dash of "professional" policy making by their preferred and credentialed policy makers. The environmentalists - at least those that aren't communism - are pagan establishmentarians.
But whatever their cause or dreamed-of endpoint, the means are the same in all cases: technocracy.
All technocrats, whatever their mission, have the same motto: "Shut up you doofus! You are not an expert. We must listen to the experts and do as they command. If they are wrong, we don't acknowledge it. If they are right, we celebrate it. But always, we do as we are told by those masters of knowledge."
No sale.
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This is it, in a nutshell.
Regardless of what bent of authoritarianism the enemy prefers, the means are always the same. They may differ in goals (the folks at the Atlantic want communism. The NT former right want neocon big statism + foreign adventurism with a dash of "professional" policy making by their preferred and credentialed policy makers. The environmentalists - at least those that aren't communism - are pagan establishmentarians.
But whatever their cause or dreamed-of endpoint, the means are the same in all cases: technocracy.
All technocrats, whatever their mission, have the same motto: "Shut up you doofus! You are not an expert. We must listen to the experts and do as they command. If they are wrong, we don't acknowledge it. If they are right, we celebrate it. But always, we do as we are told by those masters of knowledge."
No sale.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:18 PM (hYcqw)
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So we have a list of 2,000 names? Send a pink slip to each name on the list.
I think they are already "former"
I think they are already "former"
Posted by: It's me donna at May 11, 2020 01:18 PM (Zmnko)
326
Joe Biden's polygraph would be a deadline.
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander at May 11, 2020 01:18 PM (LxTcq)
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Empty cruise ships in Caribbean.
https://tinyurl.com/yd98smzu
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM
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Go to the last picture in that link and embiggen it. Someone has a big butt hanging out.
https://tinyurl.com/yd98smzu
Posted by: BignJames at May 11, 2020 01:13 PM
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Go to the last picture in that link and embiggen it. Someone has a big butt hanging out.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 01:18 PM (JUOKG)
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322 So we have a list of 2,000 names? Send a pink slip to each name on the list.
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Umm, they already received that. Send them tickets for a helo ride.
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Umm, they already received that. Send them tickets for a helo ride.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 11, 2020 01:18 PM (s0rgF)
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So we have a list of 2,000 names? Send a pink slip to each name on the list.
Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (gmo/4)
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They are already FORMER.
And probably made up.
Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2020 01:17 PM (gmo/4)
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They are already FORMER.
And probably made up.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:18 PM (nw6Hr)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign
Are these 'current or former' officials? Or can they all go on the firing list?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (oVJmc)
I love it when they give us a metric of how deep the deep state is.
Are these 'current or former' officials? Or can they all go on the firing list?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 01:14 PM (oVJmc)
I love it when they give us a metric of how deep the deep state is.
Posted by: Diogenes at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (axyOa)
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Yeah. Knuckling under for that kind of bullshit by so many is what depresses me the most.
Prepping the sheep for the slaughter.
Prepping the sheep for the slaughter.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (EgshT)
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>>JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
JUST IN: Barr serves at the pleasure of the duly elected POTUS. Your opinions are not wanted or needed.
Once again the permenant federal bureaucracy demonstrates that they believe they know better on how to govern than the current administration. They seem to have forgotten who's in change.
You don't like Barr, feel free to quit (if still employed at the DoJ).
JUST IN: Barr serves at the pleasure of the duly elected POTUS. Your opinions are not wanted or needed.
Once again the permenant federal bureaucracy demonstrates that they believe they know better on how to govern than the current administration. They seem to have forgotten who's in change.
You don't like Barr, feel free to quit (if still employed at the DoJ).
Posted by: Lizzy at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (bDqIh)
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I feel bad for the staff stuck on those ships.
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They need Doc, Gopher, Isaac and Julie to put together some time-passing activities. Mexican night, Masquerade night, Computer Matchup night, Amateur Singing night...
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They need Doc, Gopher, Isaac and Julie to put together some time-passing activities. Mexican night, Masquerade night, Computer Matchup night, Amateur Singing night...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (O+I8R)
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Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials walk into a Barr...
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (+7yf7)
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This mask thing is great. When forced to go to the big city surveillance state, the mask will make facial recognition useless. So don't wear it in normal activities but use it where it works to your advantage.
I'm sticking with the paint respirator to freak people in crowds.
I'm sticking with the paint respirator to freak people in crowds.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (e1mEI)
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I guess that leaked Obama Alumni Network conference call had a lot of people on it, coordinating this response. <<<<<<<
I totally missed that, was there audio?
I totally missed that, was there audio?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (r+sAi)
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318 . . .
Remember when all the straight shooters at the FBI did that when they found out what their agency was up to?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19
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We all resigned in protest, and now there are only a few agents left to man all of the offices nationwide.
Remember when all the straight shooters at the FBI did that when they found out what their agency was up to?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - only 1,000 healthcare workers worldwide have died from COVID-19
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We all resigned in protest, and now there are only a few agents left to man all of the offices nationwide.
Posted by: 99% Of All FBI Agents Who Are So Honest And Hardworking That It Fucking Boggles The Mind at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (9vQJW)
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310
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a
letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what
they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
And just like that, a "NOW HIRING!" sign appears. 2000 positions available.
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a
letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what
they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
And just like that, a "NOW HIRING!" sign appears. 2000 positions available.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (N39Ws)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
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Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
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Where's the "Nearly 2000 Justice Dept officials have been summarily dismissed for insubordination" headline?
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Posted by: Tami at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)
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Where's the "Nearly 2000 Justice Dept officials have been summarily dismissed for insubordination" headline?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (hYcqw)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept.officials drones have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign
Fix-ed
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept.
Fix-ed
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:20 PM (mht8P)
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Remember when all the straight shooters at the FBI did that when they found out what their agency was up to?
MUH PENSIONZ!
Remember when all the straight shooters at the FBI did that when they found out what their agency was up to?
MUH PENSIONZ!
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 01:20 PM (oVJmc)
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If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
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Potential targets of investigation said what?
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
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Potential targets of investigation said what?
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:20 PM (kOpft)
343
Ok, Ok, former. Send each one an IRS audit letter...
Posted by: Archer at May 11, 2020 01:20 PM (gmo/4)
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333
I feel bad for the staff stuck on those ships.
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They need Doc, Gopher, Isaac and Julie to put together some
time-passing activities. Mexican night, Masquerade night, Computer
Matchup night, Amateur Singing night...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (O+I8R)
All you need is Julie. Lots of entertainment there. Just remember to wear a rubber.
I feel bad for the staff stuck on those ships.
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They need Doc, Gopher, Isaac and Julie to put together some
time-passing activities. Mexican night, Masquerade night, Computer
Matchup night, Amateur Singing night...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (O+I8R)
All you need is Julie. Lots of entertainment there. Just remember to wear a rubber.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at May 11, 2020 01:20 PM (N39Ws)
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The minimal advantage of wearing a mask (with some potential detrimental health effects) is not the most important reason for the LAW. (eo "law). The important part is Behavioral Modification of the public. Obey Obey OBEY, or BigGov will punish you.
Pandemic pushed everyone into a state of fear, a real fight or flight mental and physical state, that has altered the citizenry, and opened their minds to insertion of State Dogma (if not insertion of some needle and/or tracking device on your phone, or in your body.
Next, they will Track You ... one person tests positive (mandatory testing) ... then they are required to tell every place/person they have been close to .. then ALL those people can be forcibly Quarantined.
..and somewhere before that gets underway ... death of our inquisitors will hopefully vastly outnumber death by virus. Live Free of or Die ...because somehow I think those forced into quarantine will be given the virus ... the Tyrants are loving this ... they need to be made less comfortable.
Pandemic pushed everyone into a state of fear, a real fight or flight mental and physical state, that has altered the citizenry, and opened their minds to insertion of State Dogma (if not insertion of some needle and/or tracking device on your phone, or in your body.
Next, they will Track You ... one person tests positive (mandatory testing) ... then they are required to tell every place/person they have been close to .. then ALL those people can be forcibly Quarantined.
..and somewhere before that gets underway ... death of our inquisitors will hopefully vastly outnumber death by virus. Live Free of or Die ...because somehow I think those forced into quarantine will be given the virus ... the Tyrants are loving this ... they need to be made less comfortable.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (Cus5s)
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Palm Beach county in S FL opens today, leaving Broward (Ft Lauderdale) and Metro Dade (Miami) the only two remaining closed.
There are probably 800,000 NY and NY and CN and MA residents in those two counties, that all came down during the early weeks of the lockdown.
There are probably 800,000 NY and NY and CN and MA residents in those two counties, that all came down during the early weeks of the lockdown.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (+fPHo)
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I wouldn't put it past Pritzker to seal off Illinois. Just wish SMH were already out of there.
Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (XxJt1)
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Official lockdown efforts were doomed the minute Americans realized that Cinco de Mayo fell on Taco Tuesday. God Bless Mexamurica. For the first time in weeks, the crowds came out, and there were lines down the block at every Mexican takeout place in town last week, few masks, no social distancing. That sort of woke everyone up from the lockdown spell, seeing so many others out in public who were obviously not sick or dying. This past weekend, I saw many small gatherings on porches and at parks, groups of twenty or more here and there. No matter what the state tries to do at this point, I think people are ready for summer and most are willing to accept whatever risks may accompany a return to normalcy -- whether those risks are from the virus or from government stooges attempting to enforce their diktats. It's like an inverse Chip Diller from Animal House, the crowd is rushing past him laughing and partying, while he stands amidst the chaos screaming "ALL IS NOT WELL!!!! BE AFRAID!!! BE VERY AFRAID!!!"
Posted by: Manos de Piedra at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (iMfep)
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I don't think Julie's coke dealer is making deliveries out to the ship.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (+7yf7)
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Get my haircut Wednesday. M barber is sooo busy I had to take a number. He told me it was just a bunch of nonsense from the start, of course I agree. I asked him what he did when he was closed. " Went fishin'" was the reply.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (bCLt0)
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Anecdata: my old softball team from CT had a virtual happy hour. One guy is a cop who works the ghet-to.
He said they are not enforcing social distancing in the hood, people are not social distancing, and the body bags are not piling up.
He said they are not enforcing social distancing in the hood, people are not social distancing, and the body bags are not piling up.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (gd9RK)
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JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
_______________________
The FBI agents themselves admitted, in writing in their own case notes, that they knew Flynn (1) had not committed any crime and (2) that they were going to try and set Flynn up in an interview. An interview conducted on the sly, without giving Flynn a lawyer or notifying the WH Counsel's office (which was the protocol).
Then, after Flynn did not fall for the trap and did not lie to them, they still went ahead and concocted a bullshit process crime, and they pretty much bankrupted Flynn with legal fees and threatened Flynn's son with yet another bullshit prosecution, all in an attempt to coerce Flynn into a guilty plea. And then the prosecutor lied for years that he had turned over all the Brady materials to Flynn's lawyers (when he had not), and even perjured himself to the court, by lying about there not being a side deal about Flynn's son.
But somehow Barr, by asking the court to dismiss this totally bullshit, obviously political and grossly improper prosecution, is the bad guy in this?
Any DOJ employee, present or former, who would sign their name to that letter is clearly a blithering idiot who has no understanding whatsoever of the meaning of the concept "rule of law." They should be disbarred.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
_______________________
The FBI agents themselves admitted, in writing in their own case notes, that they knew Flynn (1) had not committed any crime and (2) that they were going to try and set Flynn up in an interview. An interview conducted on the sly, without giving Flynn a lawyer or notifying the WH Counsel's office (which was the protocol).
Then, after Flynn did not fall for the trap and did not lie to them, they still went ahead and concocted a bullshit process crime, and they pretty much bankrupted Flynn with legal fees and threatened Flynn's son with yet another bullshit prosecution, all in an attempt to coerce Flynn into a guilty plea. And then the prosecutor lied for years that he had turned over all the Brady materials to Flynn's lawyers (when he had not), and even perjured himself to the court, by lying about there not being a side deal about Flynn's son.
But somehow Barr, by asking the court to dismiss this totally bullshit, obviously political and grossly improper prosecution, is the bad guy in this?
Any DOJ employee, present or former, who would sign their name to that letter is clearly a blithering idiot who has no understanding whatsoever of the meaning of the concept "rule of law." They should be disbarred.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (k4dH2)
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Masks are great. I can save my paper bags for other things.
Posted by: wth at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (v0R5T)
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I know Trump did an EO for meat worker companies to free them from liability. He should just extend it to all companies nationwide.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (r+sAi)
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Those surprised with Chuck Todd's blatant lying about Bill Barr puzzle me.
He runs a progressive advocacy show, not a news show, and isn't shy about saying it. Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
I am firmly of the belief that F Chuck did not even view the entirety of the Barr interview before playing the clip and opining/lying. The clip that he was given by a staffer or producer fit his already pre-conceived notions to such a "T" that it never occurred to him that there was more to put the answer in context. Only a full on-air apology from him to AG Barr is acceptable. I think most of the on air "talent" play clips of unwatched interviews and pressers all the time. They know nothing and want to know nothing.
He runs a progressive advocacy show, not a news show, and isn't shy about saying it. Posted by: BetaCuck4Life
I am firmly of the belief that F Chuck did not even view the entirety of the Barr interview before playing the clip and opining/lying. The clip that he was given by a staffer or producer fit his already pre-conceived notions to such a "T" that it never occurred to him that there was more to put the answer in context. Only a full on-air apology from him to AG Barr is acceptable. I think most of the on air "talent" play clips of unwatched interviews and pressers all the time. They know nothing and want to know nothing.
Posted by: corn and beans at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (tkNkP)
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ouch
Jezebel's BARF BAG
I Will Personally Be Thrilled If Stephen Miller Dies of Covid-19
Molly Osberg
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Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 & get the APP @TrumpWarRoom
This is how many members of the media feel about Trump supporters -- but they rarely come right out and say it!
no kidding
Jezebel's BARF BAG
I Will Personally Be Thrilled If Stephen Miller Dies of Covid-19
Molly Osberg
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Trump War Room - Text TRUMP to 88022 & get the APP @TrumpWarRoom
This is how many members of the media feel about Trump supporters -- but they rarely come right out and say it!
no kidding
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (x4XFu)
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343 Hey, that just reminded me. You know how they always talk about "patient zero"? I figured out who "Karen zero" is. Lois Lerner. Sure has the looks and personality.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (C1Lsn)
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 11, 2020 01:23 PM (lg/F7)
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357 343 Hey, that just reminded me. You know how they always talk about "patient zero"? I figured out who "Karen zero" is. Lois Lerner. Sure has the looks and personality.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (C1Lsn)
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It was actually Martha Jefferson.
There's a reason Thomas wasn't too broken up when she passed.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM (C1Lsn)
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It was actually Martha Jefferson.
There's a reason Thomas wasn't too broken up when she passed.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:23 PM (LvTSG)
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Brix says CDC inflating numbers more than 25%!
Posted by: rhennigantx
I've been saying that for weeks. When the Fedgov agreed to reimburse hospitals for Covid diagnosis's, they effectively made cheating profitable.
Posted by: rhennigantx
I've been saying that for weeks. When the Fedgov agreed to reimburse hospitals for Covid diagnosis's, they effectively made cheating profitable.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:23 PM (Pr4ah)
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A grand day. I have a package for which I have to sign scheduled for delivery "this afternoon before 8:00 PM" and a workman coming "between 2:00 and 6:00".
A grand day. I have a package for which I have to sign scheduled for delivery "this afternoon before 8:00 PM" and a workman coming "between 2:00 and 6:00".
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:23 PM (mht8P)
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347 I wouldn't put it past Pritzker to seal off Illinois. Just wish SMH were already out of there.
Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (XxJt1)
Pritzker is a malevolence. He rules, not governs, from the City- State of Shitcago, and cares nothing for the State of Illinois. He is happily destroying the State, while making faux statements of concern.
Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (XxJt1)
Pritzker is a malevolence. He rules, not governs, from the City- State of Shitcago, and cares nothing for the State of Illinois. He is happily destroying the State, while making faux statements of concern.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (bCLt0)
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I was musing over the weekend that I miss going out shopping in actual stores. And how we've been doing so much ordering online. It's kind of a downer when FedEx and UPS drive by and don't leave me anything. I now understand the true excitement of waiting for the Wells Fargo Wagon! (Complete with Music Man earworm)
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (O+I8R)
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336 I guess that leaked Obama Alumni Network conference call had a lot of people on it, coordinating this response.
I totally missed that, was there audio?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (r+sAi)
https://news.yahoo.com/obama-irule-of-law-michael-flynn-case-014121045.html
Here is a link to some of it, in this Yahoo News article.
I totally missed that, was there audio?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (r+sAi)
https://news.yahoo.com/obama-irule-of-law-michael-flynn-case-014121045.html
Here is a link to some of it, in this Yahoo News article.
Posted by: Darrell Harris at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (iuFgi)
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The Karen Haircut Zero was Kate from that Jon & Kate + 8 show.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (+7yf7)
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"Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials" ... now identified as Resistance Fighters, enemies of the state. They are legion.
Posted by: illiniwek at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (Cus5s)
367
The Cruise ship industry as we currently know it is dead and will not come back in the same form that it was.
Some of them will survive, but none of them will come out of this
unscathed. And they will never have the same number of passengers as
they had before this started. Way too many people will not book cruises
now due to fear.
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Sort of my thinking. There will still be cruises, but the numbers are probably going to go down for a bit.
On the flip side, I'm guessing the correlation between pro-lockdown and cruise ship goers is fairly small, so who knows.
If that industry does die, then those vacation dollars will be spent elsewhere. So while the industry may suffer, it will not have as damaging an effect on the economy as other losses might.
Some of them will survive, but none of them will come out of this
unscathed. And they will never have the same number of passengers as
they had before this started. Way too many people will not book cruises
now due to fear.
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Sort of my thinking. There will still be cruises, but the numbers are probably going to go down for a bit.
On the flip side, I'm guessing the correlation between pro-lockdown and cruise ship goers is fairly small, so who knows.
If that industry does die, then those vacation dollars will be spent elsewhere. So while the industry may suffer, it will not have as damaging an effect on the economy as other losses might.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (sX1BW)
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Today Switzerland pretty much lifted it's lockdown. Starting today the following activities can operate again:
- Grade schools
- Restaurants
- Pubs
- Gyms
- Museums
- Public Transportation
- Grade schools
- Restaurants
- Pubs
- Gyms
- Museums
- Public Transportation
Posted by: Serious Cat at May 11, 2020 01:25 PM (zqs/f)
369
They need Doc, Gopher, Isaac and Julie to put together some
time-passing activities. Mexican night, Masquerade night, Computer
Matchup night, Amateur Singing night...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (O+I8R)
CUCHI CUCHI!
They need Doc, Gopher, Isaac and Julie to put together some
time-passing activities. Mexican night, Masquerade night, Computer
Matchup night, Amateur Singing night...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (O+I8R)
CUCHI CUCHI!
Posted by: Charo at May 11, 2020 01:25 PM (oVJmc)
370
The people who treat Blasey Ford noticeably better than Tara Reid will include senate republicans Grassley et al.
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander at May 11, 2020 01:25 PM (LxTcq)
371
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
If they'd start arresting people, people would shut up.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
If they'd start arresting people, people would shut up.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:25 PM (Pr4ah)
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347 I wouldn't put it past Pritzker to seal off Illinois. Just wish SMH were already out of there.
Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (XxJt1)
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Drove to MO yesterday to spend the day with the younger daughter and g-babies.
He can try.
Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2020 01:21 PM (XxJt1)
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Drove to MO yesterday to spend the day with the younger daughter and g-babies.
He can try.
Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at May 11, 2020 01:25 PM (RU4sa)
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But somehow Barr, by asking the court to dismiss
this totally bullshit, obviously political and grossly improper
prosecution, is the bad guy in this?
Any DOJ employee, present or former, who would sign their name to
that letter is clearly a blithering idiot who has no understanding
whatsoever of the meaning of the concept "rule of law." They should be
disbarred.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM
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Point of order, AG Barr never asked the Court to dismiss the charge, the Prosecuting Attorney in the case did.
After he did that, he resigned as lead Prosecutor for at least 12 other cases that he was working on.
I suspect the Judge is writing some seriously scathing censure letters right about now, because that's all he can do.
this totally bullshit, obviously political and grossly improper
prosecution, is the bad guy in this?
Any DOJ employee, present or former, who would sign their name to
that letter is clearly a blithering idiot who has no understanding
whatsoever of the meaning of the concept "rule of law." They should be
disbarred.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 11, 2020 01:22 PM
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Point of order, AG Barr never asked the Court to dismiss the charge, the Prosecuting Attorney in the case did.
After he did that, he resigned as lead Prosecutor for at least 12 other cases that he was working on.
I suspect the Judge is writing some seriously scathing censure letters right about now, because that's all he can do.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 01:25 PM (JUOKG)
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In other words, to combat "ignorance," the scolders create a new and more virulent species of it: exclusive ignorance, forced ignorance, ignorance with staying power.
Ignorance with a gun.
Ignorance with a gun.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 01:26 PM (wCLLY)
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thanks Darell and your brother Darrell.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:26 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: MIRROR UNIVERSE CALVIN KLEIN at May 11, 2020 01:26 PM (Pzzpr)
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The Bozo Sniffer campaign full throttle - in circles
Andrew Clark @AndrewHClark
Joe Biden wrote this morning that states cannot reopen because there is not enough testing capacity.
Gov. Cuomo just announced NY can begin reopening because they have enough "testing capacity."
Maybe we shouldn't take Joe Biden's basement opinions at face value.
Andrew Clark @AndrewHClark
Joe Biden wrote this morning that states cannot reopen because there is not enough testing capacity.
Gov. Cuomo just announced NY can begin reopening because they have enough "testing capacity."
Maybe we shouldn't take Joe Biden's basement opinions at face value.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:27 PM (x4XFu)
378
Let's all take over a ghost town somewhere. It'll be like Galt's Gulch. But with Morons.
Moron Manor. No social distancing, no masks, the bars are open and it's always hunting season.
Moron Manor. No social distancing, no masks, the bars are open and it's always hunting season.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:27 PM (+7yf7)
379
Are you serious? FBI traitors are still at it? When does this stop?!?!?
Posted by: creeper at May 11, 2020 01:27 PM (XxJt1)
380
Went on a picnic and then a walk with the family yesterday at a park. No hassles, no one was wearing a mask except for one elderly couple. And it looked strange to see this in these big open spaces.
Posted by: washrivergal at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (lmUUv)
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269
One of the gang at the gas station went to Walmart for a haircut, and it
seems Walmart is concerned. The shop at the local super center was
taking temps, requiring customers to mask, and wanting name, address,
phone number and dob. A lot of customers were concerned also. He said
the walkoff rate, along with a few fuck yous was pretty high.
the most annoying thing my local wal-mart did? remove all the benches where one might sit and wait for mrs. chronda to finish her shopping.
One of the gang at the gas station went to Walmart for a haircut, and it
seems Walmart is concerned. The shop at the local super center was
taking temps, requiring customers to mask, and wanting name, address,
phone number and dob. A lot of customers were concerned also. He said
the walkoff rate, along with a few fuck yous was pretty high.
the most annoying thing my local wal-mart did? remove all the benches where one might sit and wait for mrs. chronda to finish her shopping.
Posted by: Anachronda at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (sGtp+)
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Since this was willowed, why TX nursing homes have fewer Wuflu casualties: https://tinyurl.com/y855o9nm
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (JKNZq)
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I had to get a plumber out to clean out the main drain lateral at the folks house. Low flow toilet and an old style terra cotta lateral caused a paper clog.
Cost $250 but he did in less than a hour what would've taken me all day or more to do. Tools and experience.
Anyway, he got to going on about these stupid millennials. THe TP shortage has been a gold mine for him. Idiot millennials are flushing wipes, paper towels and Lord knows what else down their toilets, he said.
And he said that in general, they don't know how to do anything. He said he gets calls all the time to do simple piddling shit like plunging toilets, cleaning out sink traps and stuff any idiot should know how to do.
I had to get a plumber out to clean out the main drain lateral at the folks house. Low flow toilet and an old style terra cotta lateral caused a paper clog.
Cost $250 but he did in less than a hour what would've taken me all day or more to do. Tools and experience.
Anyway, he got to going on about these stupid millennials. THe TP shortage has been a gold mine for him. Idiot millennials are flushing wipes, paper towels and Lord knows what else down their toilets, he said.
And he said that in general, they don't know how to do anything. He said he gets calls all the time to do simple piddling shit like plunging toilets, cleaning out sink traps and stuff any idiot should know how to do.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (rCwaK)
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377 The Bozo Sniffer campaign full throttle - in circles
Andrew Clark @AndrewHClark
Joe Biden wrote this morning that states cannot reopen because there is not enough testing capacity.
Gov. Cuomo just announced NY can begin reopening because they have enough "testing capacity."
Maybe we shouldn't take Joe Biden's basement opinions at face value.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:27 PM (x4XFu)
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And yet people will say in the same breath, "Cuomo is great," and "Biden needs to be the next president."
Because they have no idea how to connect different unrelated thoughts in their heads.
Andrew Clark @AndrewHClark
Joe Biden wrote this morning that states cannot reopen because there is not enough testing capacity.
Gov. Cuomo just announced NY can begin reopening because they have enough "testing capacity."
Maybe we shouldn't take Joe Biden's basement opinions at face value.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at May 11, 2020 01:27 PM (x4XFu)
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And yet people will say in the same breath, "Cuomo is great," and "Biden needs to be the next president."
Because they have no idea how to connect different unrelated thoughts in their heads.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (LvTSG)
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336 I guess that leaked Obama Alumni Network conference call had a lot of people on it, coordinating this response. <<<<<<<
I totally missed that, was there audio?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (r+sAi)
I have only heard the 20-second clip about "risk to rule of law," and from that it is clear that Obama still and always needs a written speech spooling on a teleprompter to speak coherently.
I totally missed that, was there audio?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:19 PM (r+sAi)
I have only heard the 20-second clip about "risk to rule of law," and from that it is clear that Obama still and always needs a written speech spooling on a teleprompter to speak coherently.
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2020 01:29 PM (AMIL/)
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It used to be said of the Habsburg empire that it was "absolutism tempered by incompetence". Illinois is incompetence compounded by absolutism.
It used to be said of the Habsburg empire that it was "absolutism tempered by incompetence". Illinois is incompetence compounded by absolutism.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at May 11, 2020 01:29 PM (mht8P)
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The minimal advantage of wearing a mask (with some potential detrimental health effects) is not the most important reason for the LAW. (eo "law). The important part is Behavioral Modification of the public. Obey Obey OBEY, or BigGov will punish you. (Illiniwek)
This is so true. If my local Walgreens or food store requests me to wear a mask in order to shop there I will do so (or find another place that doesn't require masks-perhaps even in another county or state). When Pritzker tells me I have to wear a mask everywhere its a whole different movie that plays in my head.
This is so true. If my local Walgreens or food store requests me to wear a mask in order to shop there I will do so (or find another place that doesn't require masks-perhaps even in another county or state). When Pritzker tells me I have to wear a mask everywhere its a whole different movie that plays in my head.
Posted by: corn and beans at May 11, 2020 01:29 PM (tkNkP)
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25 At what point are Fauci and Birx and, yes, Trump - going to start looking at real data and adjust their stupid models?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Which one??
The IC model.
The Murray Model.
The current CDC model???
They are ALL so very very wrong. That asshole at Imperial College whos name escapes me at the moment should be in JAIL for publishing that drivel.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (nw6Hr)
Channeling Trump:
1. Open the country Easter
2. Open the country when it's politically expedient
He has to balance what he personally thinks against the bureaucratic wall of horror and the media. He doesn't want them to finagle another 10% in the polls away.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 12:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Which one??
The IC model.
The Murray Model.
The current CDC model???
They are ALL so very very wrong. That asshole at Imperial College whos name escapes me at the moment should be in JAIL for publishing that drivel.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 12:34 PM (nw6Hr)
Channeling Trump:
1. Open the country Easter
2. Open the country when it's politically expedient
He has to balance what he personally thinks against the bureaucratic wall of horror and the media. He doesn't want them to finagle another 10% in the polls away.
Posted by: Braenyard at May 11, 2020 01:30 PM (mWu8/)
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Let's all take over a ghost town somewhere. It'll be like Galt's Gulch. But with Morons.
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There's that one the Bradys stopped at, and they were locked in an old jail by Jim Backus.
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There's that one the Bradys stopped at, and they were locked in an old jail by Jim Backus.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:30 PM (O+I8R)
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I have only heard the 20-second clip about "risk to rule of law," and
from that it is clear that Obama still and always needs a written speech
spooling on a teleprompter to speak coherently.
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Reminded my how grating his speaking style was.
Never in history has such a "great" orator used "uh" as much as Obama.
from that it is clear that Obama still and always needs a written speech
spooling on a teleprompter to speak coherently.
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Reminded my how grating his speaking style was.
Never in history has such a "great" orator used "uh" as much as Obama.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:30 PM (sX1BW)
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Are you serious? FBI traitors are still at it? When does this stop?!?!?
Posted by: creeper
When they are in jail with charges.
Posted by: creeper
When they are in jail with charges.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:30 PM (Pr4ah)
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What would make anybody think these people will change their spots, suddenly discover humility and honesty? We're dealing with essentially retarded Leninists -- Lenin's intentions and will but lacking any intellectual candlepower.
This is a zero sum game we're in -- someone wins, someone loses. Life or death. There is no grand compromise.
This is a zero sum game we're in -- someone wins, someone loses. Life or death. There is no grand compromise.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (H8QX8)
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Pritzker is a malevolence. He rules, not governs,
from the City- State of Shitcago, and cares nothing for the State of
Illinois. He is happily destroying the State, while making faux
statements of concern.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (bCLt0)
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I heard a national radio talk-show caller this morning say that he and his family are riding this out in their home in the far less-restrictive Florida -- so don't have to live under his own tyrannical rules?
from the City- State of Shitcago, and cares nothing for the State of
Illinois. He is happily destroying the State, while making faux
statements of concern.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:24 PM (bCLt0)
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I heard a national radio talk-show caller this morning say that he and his family are riding this out in their home in the far less-restrictive Florida -- so don't have to live under his own tyrannical rules?
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (WxPaM)
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Point of order, AG Barr never asked the Court to dismiss the charge, the Prosecuting Attorney in the case did.
After he did that, he resigned as lead Prosecutor for at least 12 other cases that he was working on.
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Sure, van Grack did it after he got caught lying and perjuring himself, and likely after his DOJ boss Barr ordered him to do it.
But we can be sure it wasn't van Grack's choice. He's the crook who kept this bullshit prosecution going for years.
Point of order, AG Barr never asked the Court to dismiss the charge, the Prosecuting Attorney in the case did.
After he did that, he resigned as lead Prosecutor for at least 12 other cases that he was working on.
______________
Sure, van Grack did it after he got caught lying and perjuring himself, and likely after his DOJ boss Barr ordered him to do it.
But we can be sure it wasn't van Grack's choice. He's the crook who kept this bullshit prosecution going for years.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (k4dH2)
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And he said that in general, they don't know how to do anything. He said he gets calls all the time to do simple piddling shit like plunging toilets, cleaning out sink traps and stuff any idiot should know how to do.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (rCwaK)
Surprising they don't just look up a YouTube video on "How To" because they are out there.
And he said that in general, they don't know how to do anything. He said he gets calls all the time to do simple piddling shit like plunging toilets, cleaning out sink traps and stuff any idiot should know how to do.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (rCwaK)
Surprising they don't just look up a YouTube video on "How To" because they are out there.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get the Flu Manchu Blues at the Outrage Outlet! at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (0QYMt)
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Lot of moving vans at my apartment building lately. Talked to a guy upstairs over the weekend, he's been out of work since March due to lockdown and they let him stay up till June 1st without paying rent but he and his girl got a place and are leaving today. Another lady who's been out of work since March left yesterday. She was getting the same free-rent deal but now they kicked her out.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (+7yf7)
397
Oh great. Evers just said Wisconsin is going backwards in meeting it's re-opening benchmarks. 6 more weeks of winter.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (lwiT4)
398
One of the gang at the gas station went to Walmart for a haircut, and it seems Walmart is concerned. The shop at the local super center was taking temps, requiring customers to mask, and wanting name, address, phone number and dob. A lot of customers were concerned also. He said the walkoff rate, along with a few fuck yous was pretty high.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (C1Lsn)
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Name, address, phone number and date of birth? To shop at a store?
No. The answer is no. Especially when I suspect it is just being written down. Notwithstanding the *huge* implications of privacy and subservience, why should I actively enable identity theft?
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:07 PM (C1Lsn)
+++++++++++++++
Name, address, phone number and date of birth? To shop at a store?
No. The answer is no. Especially when I suspect it is just being written down. Notwithstanding the *huge* implications of privacy and subservience, why should I actively enable identity theft?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (hYcqw)
399
Has anyone heard from Brother Cavil recently? I know some -ettes had emailed him ...
Posted by: Adriane the Media Panic Critic ... at May 11, 2020 01:32 PM (LPnfS)
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390 Obumbles "uhs" always had me waiting for him to break down and go full Porky Pig with the stammering.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at May 11, 2020 01:32 PM (C1Lsn)
401
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
what was the contretemps that caused the 1300 former AGs or whatever to come forward with a similar assertions a couple of months ago? It seems they had Bush guy in there somewhere for that one.
what was the contretemps that caused the 1300 former AGs or whatever to come forward with a similar assertions a couple of months ago? It seems they had Bush guy in there somewhere for that one.
Posted by: DanMan at May 11, 2020 01:32 PM (XTiHL)
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And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
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So ABC tweets this:
@ABC
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami
What anyone with a brain would see:
"Nearly 2000 former Department of Justice officials are opposed to actual justice, and would prefer to jail the innocent for political purposes"
@ABC
JUST IN: Nearly 2000 Justice Dept. officials have signed onto a letter calling for Attorney General William Barr to resign over what they describe as his improper intervention in the criminal case of former Trump national security adviser Michael Flynn.
If you click the link, the headline reads this:
"Nearly 2000 former DOJ officials call for AG Barr to resign over Flynn case"
Posted by: Tami
What anyone with a brain would see:
"Nearly 2000 former Department of Justice officials are opposed to actual justice, and would prefer to jail the innocent for political purposes"
Posted by: mikeski at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (P1f+c)
404
Grammie, I guess Evers' plan is to make WI residents so miserable that Trump loses the state in November? I don't know how to take it any other way.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (O+I8R)
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402 And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
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Tear down literally everything else the state does to fulfill those obligations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
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Tear down literally everything else the state does to fulfill those obligations.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LvTSG)
406
Another lady who's been out of work since March left
yesterday. She was getting the same free-rent deal but now they kicked
her out.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (+7yf7)
Here in WI a landlord cannot evict a tenant even for non-payment of rent. Daughter owns a rental home. Guess what? And her tenants work for the government.
yesterday. She was getting the same free-rent deal but now they kicked
her out.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (+7yf7)
Here in WI a landlord cannot evict a tenant even for non-payment of rent. Daughter owns a rental home. Guess what? And her tenants work for the government.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:34 PM (lwiT4)
407
Reminded my how grating his speaking style was.
Never in history has such a "great" orator used "uh" as much as Obama.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:30 PM (sX1BW)
_________
I just assumed the word "I" was pronounced "uh" in Indonesia.
Never in history has such a "great" orator used "uh" as much as Obama.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:30 PM (sX1BW)
_________
I just assumed the word "I" was pronounced "uh" in Indonesia.
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 01:34 PM (kmxth)
408
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
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Tear down literally everything else the state does to fulfill those obligations.
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From Arizona?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
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Tear down literally everything else the state does to fulfill those obligations.
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From Arizona?
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:34 PM (sX1BW)
409
Sitting here listing to road work going on outside my window. That normally annoys me, but now it sounds wonderful. I see exactly none of the workers wearing masks.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 11, 2020 01:34 PM (FamXy)
410
Obumbles "uhs" always had me waiting for him to break down and go full Porky Pig with the stammering.
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I'm sure he has to slow down his speech for us dumb people. Since he functions at a much higher intellectual level...
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I'm sure he has to slow down his speech for us dumb people. Since he functions at a much higher intellectual level...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (O+I8R)
411
Illinois will attempt to annex Alberta.
Posted by: klaftern at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (RuIsu)
412
I have no idea what the methodology is, or if it is reliable or not, but in today's Epoch Times, they write about a study by an outfit called "Well Being Trust" that are estimating between 28k and 155k surplus "deaths of despair" due to the lockdown and its economic damage.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (hYcqw)
413
Grammie, I guess Evers' plan is to make WI residents
so miserable that Trump loses the state in November? I don't know how
to take it any other way.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (O+I8R)
Either that or it's sheer incompetency. I'm thinking a little of both. He's kind of a dope, headed up the teachers unions or some such deal. Over his head.
so miserable that Trump loses the state in November? I don't know how
to take it any other way.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (O+I8R)
Either that or it's sheer incompetency. I'm thinking a little of both. He's kind of a dope, headed up the teachers unions or some such deal. Over his head.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (lwiT4)
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When I was finally able to get a haircut, they zapped your forehead with a thermometer and you had to answer some dopey questions, and wear a mask. But no name rank serial number jazz.
I loved the questions. "Are you currently living with someone under COVID-19 Quarantine"
Who TF is going to say yes?
Would the next question be "Get the fk away from me then, what are you, a stupid fcktard?"
I loved the questions. "Are you currently living with someone under COVID-19 Quarantine"
Who TF is going to say yes?
Would the next question be "Get the fk away from me then, what are you, a stupid fcktard?"
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (+7yf7)
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410 Obumbles "uhs" always had me waiting for him to break down and go full Porky Pig with the stammering.
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I'm sure he has to slow down his speech for us dumb people. Since he functions at a much higher intellectual level...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (O+I8R)
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I remember the mainstream media forwarding this theory about W's problems with his speech.
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I'm sure he has to slow down his speech for us dumb people. Since he functions at a much higher intellectual level...
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (O+I8R)
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I remember the mainstream media forwarding this theory about W's problems with his speech.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (LvTSG)
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I live in metro Atlanta, practically on the border of two of the most densely populated (around 2,600 per square mile) counties in Georgia. Total population of the two counties is right at 1.7 million. (Georgia counties are tiny. Think townships, and multiply the area by 2).
The county I live in is probably THE most diverse (right around 25% each of black, white, Asian and Hispanic, with a bunch of former Yugoslavians included among white and first-generation Africans among the black) in the whole damn country.
The adherence rate to COVID-prophylactic measures here is spotty, maybe 40% masks, though people have observed distance etiquette to the extent possible on my usual sorties to the convenience store, grocery and Home Depot. (Interestingly, the mask-wearing adherence among Hispanics and Asians is about 10% and absolutely 100%, respectively -- I haven't seen a presumably pretty Asian girl's whole face since early March; that's how I know. Blacks and whites are pretty much equally 40-40.)
The home-sheltering here has been relatively lax. The trough of apparent activity was right at the turn of the month, but as soon as the weather got nice -- and it's been friggin NICE the last few weeks -- people have been out. At the parks, in their yards, frequenting exempt businesses.
In other words, I can't think of a more representative research base for serology testing than the place where I live. lf there's a place where this virus should be running wild, it's right here.
As of today, in these two counties, we have right at 5,000 *reported* cases,
YMMV.
The county I live in is probably THE most diverse (right around 25% each of black, white, Asian and Hispanic, with a bunch of former Yugoslavians included among white and first-generation Africans among the black) in the whole damn country.
The adherence rate to COVID-prophylactic measures here is spotty, maybe 40% masks, though people have observed distance etiquette to the extent possible on my usual sorties to the convenience store, grocery and Home Depot. (Interestingly, the mask-wearing adherence among Hispanics and Asians is about 10% and absolutely 100%, respectively -- I haven't seen a presumably pretty Asian girl's whole face since early March; that's how I know. Blacks and whites are pretty much equally 40-40.)
The home-sheltering here has been relatively lax. The trough of apparent activity was right at the turn of the month, but as soon as the weather got nice -- and it's been friggin NICE the last few weeks -- people have been out. At the parks, in their yards, frequenting exempt businesses.
In other words, I can't think of a more representative research base for serology testing than the place where I live. lf there's a place where this virus should be running wild, it's right here.
As of today, in these two counties, we have right at 5,000 *reported* cases,
YMMV.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 11, 2020 01:36 PM (ZMwFa)
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Dr Campbell (who has done some good videos and some not so good) covered the latest study on HCQ. They gave only HCQ to people with moderate to severe Wuflu. And as all the comments say, they did it wrong. It needs to be given early on, with both Zinc and a Zpack. They act like the idea to use HCQ was just pulled out of the air. The South Koreans tried it because they used it with SARS. It does work but they are determined to convince doctors that it doesn't.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 01:36 PM (JKNZq)
418
402 And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
Of course they would. This is the State that at one time gave IOU's to their lottery winners.
402 And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM (LZcDP)
Of course they would. This is the State that at one time gave IOU's to their lottery winners.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:37 PM (bCLt0)
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Since this was willowed, why TX nursing homes have fewer Wuflu casualties: https://tinyurl.com/y855o9nm
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (JKNZq)
Excellent. Saved.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 01:28 PM (JKNZq)
Excellent. Saved.
Posted by: LASue at May 11, 2020 01:37 PM (Ed8Zd)
420
This is the State that at one time gave IOU's to their lottery winners.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:37 PM (bCLt0)
Oh yes! I forgot about that! LOL
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:37 PM (bCLt0)
Oh yes! I forgot about that! LOL
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (lwiT4)
421
I loved the questions. "Are you currently living with someone under COVID-19 Quarantine"
Posted by: Guy Smiley
You could read that question two ways.
Posted by: Guy Smiley
You could read that question two ways.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (Pr4ah)
422
And, because of the constitutional protections to pensions in Illinois, pensioners won't feel a thing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM
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They actually did that with Lottery winner's some years back.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 12:40 PM (LvTSG)
What are they going to do, give the pensioners IOU's?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:33 PM
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They actually did that with Lottery winner's some years back.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (JUOKG)
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Brandon Van Grack, the lead prosecutor in the investigation of Trump's former national security adviser Michael Flynn
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Brandon Van Grack
Posted by: BourbonChicken with a Face Colander at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (LxTcq)
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@367
Maybe, maybe not.
What if, and I'm just thinking out loud, what if they develop a "vaccine!" for Chinese Bat Virus?
Hmm..
This thing is a scam at every level of analysis, why not have a scam vaccine.
They are already taking a Cat Corona Virus drug and pimping it into a 5k a pop "treatment."
I wouldn't put anything past these bastards.
Maybe, maybe not.
What if, and I'm just thinking out loud, what if they develop a "vaccine!" for Chinese Bat Virus?
Hmm..
This thing is a scam at every level of analysis, why not have a scam vaccine.
They are already taking a Cat Corona Virus drug and pimping it into a 5k a pop "treatment."
I wouldn't put anything past these bastards.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (xXJfx)
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Joe Biden wrote this morning that states cannot reopen because there is not enough testing capacity. <<<<<<<<<<
Yes Joe, feel the power, go with that. Please keep recommending it. Let the Hatred run inside you.
Yes Joe, feel the power, go with that. Please keep recommending it. Let the Hatred run inside you.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (r+sAi)
426
I think the NeverTrumpers have fully embraced their (R)emocrat party affiliation. Fully Democrat, with a false front as a fig leaf.
Can someone photoshop Captain Bill's face on a Dilophosaurus, with a big blue Democrat circle on the grill?
Can someone photoshop Captain Bill's face on a Dilophosaurus, with a big blue Democrat circle on the grill?
Posted by: Downcast at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (xgpfE)
427
Oh great. Evers just said Wisconsin is going backwards in meeting it's re-opening benchmarks. 6 more weeks of winter.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Where did you hear this?
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (lwiT4)
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Where did you hear this?
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (sJi+I)
428
People who've been sitting in lawn chairs out on the sidewalk for 4 hours waiting to get their hair cut* are not likely to answer questions in an honest manner if it means they'll be sent home shaggy-headed after waiting 4 hours for nothing. The questions are just more theater.
*My true story
*My true story
Posted by: Guy Smiley at May 11, 2020 01:39 PM (+7yf7)
429
hahaha...for the last month or so, Youtube has been preceding a lot of videos with Biden campaign and PAC attacks on Trump....but, apparently, the Trump campaign just shelled out a little cash.
Now I'm getting all these campaign ads that are attacking Biden. And, they aren't being kind. So far I've seen a number of dementia example ads as well as his quote on Xenophobia when Trump closed travel to China.
Now I'm getting all these campaign ads that are attacking Biden. And, they aren't being kind. So far I've seen a number of dementia example ads as well as his quote on Xenophobia when Trump closed travel to China.
Posted by: Orson at May 11, 2020 01:39 PM (ODaae)
430
>> Surprising they don't just look up a YouTube video on "How To"
Too lazy and incurious. They're helpless.
He really got to going on about it. Said idiot young women will flush tampons and pads down toilets. He gets called out to apartment complexes with a bad main drain clog and finds tampons and pads in there. Takes pictures and shows the management proof of what's going on. And it continues.
And he said in those apartment complexes in Greenville, the millennials put in maintenance calls to change light bulbs.
And it's always the same bunch, young millennials.
Too lazy and incurious. They're helpless.
He really got to going on about it. Said idiot young women will flush tampons and pads down toilets. He gets called out to apartment complexes with a bad main drain clog and finds tampons and pads in there. Takes pictures and shows the management proof of what's going on. And it continues.
And he said in those apartment complexes in Greenville, the millennials put in maintenance calls to change light bulbs.
And it's always the same bunch, young millennials.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2020 01:39 PM (rCwaK)
431
Dr Campbell (who has done some good videos and some not so good) covered the latest study on HCQ. They gave only HCQ to people with moderate to severe Wuflu. And as all the comments say, they did it wrong. It needs to be given early on, with both Zinc and a Zpack. They act like the idea to use HCQ was just pulled out of the air. The South Koreans tried it because they used it with SARS. It does work but they are determined to convince doctors that it doesn't.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 01:36 PM (JKNZq)
++++++++++++
Most of the studies I have read out of the US indicate that it was being tried once you were already down hard or in the ICU (late stage) and it doesn't show a lot of promise if you're already at death's door. Those doctors that prescribe to anyone in a risk group the moment they get the sniffles - even before the test results come back - have had better results.
HCQ+Zinc seems very much to be a "hit it hard early" solution, not a "pull you back from the brink" solution.
Posted by: notsothoreau at May 11, 2020 01:36 PM (JKNZq)
++++++++++++
Most of the studies I have read out of the US indicate that it was being tried once you were already down hard or in the ICU (late stage) and it doesn't show a lot of promise if you're already at death's door. Those doctors that prescribe to anyone in a risk group the moment they get the sniffles - even before the test results come back - have had better results.
HCQ+Zinc seems very much to be a "hit it hard early" solution, not a "pull you back from the brink" solution.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (hYcqw)
432
Sorry, avid lurker.
I apologize if this has already been discussed.
Just saw a reference to a General Cartwright who was in trouble for lying to the FBI.
Oddly, Gen. Cartwright was pardoned in 2017.
By whom was he pardoned?
The former president who just made a big deal about perjury, etc.
I apologize if this has already been discussed.
Just saw a reference to a General Cartwright who was in trouble for lying to the FBI.
Oddly, Gen. Cartwright was pardoned in 2017.
By whom was he pardoned?
The former president who just made a big deal about perjury, etc.
Posted by: philippians at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (FsgBK)
433
Oh great. Evers just said Wisconsin is going backwards in meeting it's re-opening benchmarks. 6 more weeks of winter.
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*checks worldmeters for WI covid deaths yesterday*
2
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*checks worldmeters for WI covid deaths yesterday*
2
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (kOpft)
434
the local golf course opened up because they were sick of it. Some had maks, as employees are pretty much required to do. But the real point is they have been closes for two months and now have decided, screw it. That is happening a lot of places, not just in red areas. Maybe it is worse in other locales but from what i am seeing, people are lifting the quarantine by voting with their feet.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (d7Ww2)
436
Where did you hear this?
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (sJi+I)
It's on WISN website. He didn't say 6 more weeks of winter - that was my sarcastic remark. But he did say we're going backwards on our benchmarks.
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (sJi+I)
It's on WISN website. He didn't say 6 more weeks of winter - that was my sarcastic remark. But he did say we're going backwards on our benchmarks.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (lwiT4)
437
Oh great. Evers just said Wisconsin is going backwards in meeting it's re-opening benchmarks. 6 more weeks of winter.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (lwiT4)
Any update on the Wisconsin Supreme Court case?
Oh great. Evers just said Wisconsin is going backwards in meeting it's re-opening benchmarks. 6 more weeks of winter.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:31 PM (lwiT4)
Any update on the Wisconsin Supreme Court case?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at May 11, 2020 01:41 PM (NPM15)
438
Yes Joe, feel the power, go with that. Please keep recommending it. Let the Hatred run inside you.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (r+sAi)
Good. Good. Can you feel it? With every moment, you make yourself more my servant.
-Darth Pantsuitus
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:38 PM (r+sAi)
Good. Good. Can you feel it? With every moment, you make yourself more my servant.
-Darth Pantsuitus
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 01:41 PM (A5zUN)
439
I have no idea what the methodology is, or if it is
reliable or not, but in today's Epoch Times, they write about a study by
an outfit called "Well Being Trust" that are estimating between 28k and
155k surplus "deaths of despair" due to the lockdown and its economic
damage.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (hYcqw)
===
So another 28K to 155K Chinese Communist Party covid deaths.
reliable or not, but in today's Epoch Times, they write about a study by
an outfit called "Well Being Trust" that are estimating between 28k and
155k surplus "deaths of despair" due to the lockdown and its economic
damage.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (hYcqw)
===
So another 28K to 155K Chinese Communist Party covid deaths.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2020 01:41 PM (pw+jk)
440
But he did say we're going backwards on our benchmarks.
Posted by: grammie winger
Maybe the benchmarks need adjusting?
Posted by: grammie winger
Maybe the benchmarks need adjusting?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:42 PM (Pr4ah)
441
Where I think the real breakdown will happen is when Illinois simply doesn't have enough cash, and they have to choose between paying retirees, or current employees. I think the current employees win that fight, because they always do. And we haven't even started on Chicago welfare recipients - think they're gonna sit around while a bunch of rick old white guys take their dough?
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (trdmm)
It's a mess. The pensioners played the game by the rules at the time, so they have a legitimate beef if they get stiffed. The voters are to blame, partly or fully.
In your scenario about the neighbor getting pissed at the retiree who's ridiculing him, the retiree could respond with, "Did you, your family, or your friends ever vote against the political cabal that agreed to the rules for the past 80 years?"
Posted by: Tom Servo at May 11, 2020 01:03 PM (trdmm)
It's a mess. The pensioners played the game by the rules at the time, so they have a legitimate beef if they get stiffed. The voters are to blame, partly or fully.
In your scenario about the neighbor getting pissed at the retiree who's ridiculing him, the retiree could respond with, "Did you, your family, or your friends ever vote against the political cabal that agreed to the rules for the past 80 years?"
Posted by: Gref at May 11, 2020 01:42 PM (AMIL/)
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 01:42 PM (kGLPx)
443
*checks worldmeters for WI covid deaths yesterday*
2
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (kOpft)
We have reached the grim milestone of 400 deaths. My county hasn't had a death in at least a week. One day my county's death toll actually dropped by two.
2
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (kOpft)
We have reached the grim milestone of 400 deaths. My county hasn't had a death in at least a week. One day my county's death toll actually dropped by two.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:43 PM (lwiT4)
444
Yowza. Auto companies that have reporting April sales figures show a 40% - 55% decline.
Ow ow ow
Ow ow ow
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:43 PM (hYcqw)
445
The "shelter in place" was so we didn't overwhelm hospitals and their ability to respond and treat patients.
That should have ended with the first doctor and nurse furloughed from a hospital.
That should have ended with the first doctor and nurse furloughed from a hospital.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:43 PM (Pr4ah)
446
We have reached the grim milestone of 400 deaths. My county hasn't had a death in at least a week. One day my county's death toll actually dropped by two.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:43 PM (lwiT4)
Jesus is back- and he brought back up!
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:43 PM (lwiT4)
Jesus is back- and he brought back up!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (A5zUN)
447
I heard a Dr explain on the radio that HCQ+Zinc works to make cells more resistant to the bug, not as a cure, which is why it does well early rather than late.
Posted by: davidt at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (l3+k2)
448
It's a mess. The pensioners played the game by the rules at the time,
so they have a legitimate beef if they get stiffed. The voters are to
blame, partly or fully.
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No sympathy.
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
so they have a legitimate beef if they get stiffed. The voters are to
blame, partly or fully.
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No sympathy.
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
449
Grammie. Im visiting a daughter in Arkansas right now. Restaurants opened up today and everything else seems business as usual. I'm afraid to come back. Plus we've got to drive back through IL. Even more concerning than returning to Tonys Utopia
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sJi+I)
450
This is the State that at one time gave IOU's to their lottery winners.
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They got kicked out of Mega Millions and Powerball for a while over that.
Made a big deal about getting back in eventually, too.
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They got kicked out of Mega Millions and Powerball for a while over that.
Made a big deal about getting back in eventually, too.
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (kOpft)
451
... continuing my analysis.
In my two thickly populated and diverse metro Atlanta counties, we have 163 deaths and less than 900 hospitalizations out of a population of 1.7 million.
At the height of the Apocalypse, generously assuming that 20% of the cumulative reported infected population was out and about on a given day, I had a 0.05% chance of intersecting with the vector of a person whose cough lingered in the air I passed through, or who touched the screen at the grocery or bank, or who last touched the dollar bill I got back in change when I bought my scratchers and the latest Barely Legal.
YMMV
In my two thickly populated and diverse metro Atlanta counties, we have 163 deaths and less than 900 hospitalizations out of a population of 1.7 million.
At the height of the Apocalypse, generously assuming that 20% of the cumulative reported infected population was out and about on a given day, I had a 0.05% chance of intersecting with the vector of a person whose cough lingered in the air I passed through, or who touched the screen at the grocery or bank, or who last touched the dollar bill I got back in change when I bought my scratchers and the latest Barely Legal.
YMMV
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (ZMwFa)
452
448
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
==========
*pulls back hammer on pistol*
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
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*pulls back hammer on pistol*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (LvTSG)
453
Maybe the benchmarks need adjusting?
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:42 PM (Pr4ah)
Personally, I think it's the numbers that they're fudging, er, adjusting.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:42 PM (Pr4ah)
Personally, I think it's the numbers that they're fudging, er, adjusting.
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (lwiT4)
454
No sympathy.
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
==
Turn lead into gold?
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
==
Turn lead into gold?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (pw+jk)
455
Yowza. Auto companies that have reporting April sales figures show a 40% - 55% decline.
Ow ow ow
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Those look like great numbers to me. Would have expected much steeper declines.
Ow ow ow
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Those look like great numbers to me. Would have expected much steeper declines.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (sX1BW)
456
What if, and I'm just thinking out loud, what if they develop a "vaccine!" for Chinese Bat Virus?
Hmm..
Scam or not, the question should be what will a " vaccine " accomplish. If you use influenza as a base model, a covid vaccine will take that rough probability of a 1.5/10k chance if death and lower it to a rough probability of 1/10k probability if death.
Hmm..
Scam or not, the question should be what will a " vaccine " accomplish. If you use influenza as a base model, a covid vaccine will take that rough probability of a 1.5/10k chance if death and lower it to a rough probability of 1/10k probability if death.
Posted by: Sock Monkey..safety off at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (grQ0q)
457
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:35 PM (hYcqw)
Every choice you make, has a cost. Even NOT making a choice, can have a cost.
Because everything we do or say has some consequence to it, good, or bad.
The Founders of this country KNEW that when Governments make choices, the PEOPLE pay the cost, so they decided to strictly limit what the Government could choose for the people.
They wanted the people who had to pay the cost, to be the ones who made the choice.
Thus, the Constitution, which has been explicitly ignored for the last 3 months.
US Constitution is done, because BOTH major parties supported the shut down by Executive order.
Every choice you make, has a cost. Even NOT making a choice, can have a cost.
Because everything we do or say has some consequence to it, good, or bad.
The Founders of this country KNEW that when Governments make choices, the PEOPLE pay the cost, so they decided to strictly limit what the Government could choose for the people.
They wanted the people who had to pay the cost, to be the ones who made the choice.
Thus, the Constitution, which has been explicitly ignored for the last 3 months.
US Constitution is done, because BOTH major parties supported the shut down by Executive order.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (NgKpN)
458
Uh oh.
'Four Horsemen are ACTIVE' Bible scholars claim Book of Revelation seals broken...
https://bit.ly/3cq0p8V
'Four Horsemen are ACTIVE' Bible scholars claim Book of Revelation seals broken...
https://bit.ly/3cq0p8V
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (+y/Ru)
459
Martinet seems like such a pretty word for what it actually is.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (r+sAi)
460
I'm doing a Spotify playlist of lullabies to keep the baby quiet while I work and her mom shops. It's all soothing piano, elevator-music type versions of the many familiar standards in lullabies. I was liking it because it's basically background music, and I barely noticed it.
Until I did notice, with half an ear, that I was hearing a lullaby version of the "Battle Hymn of the Republic," which is one of the weirder ideas I've heard of.
I'm doing a Spotify playlist of lullabies to keep the baby quiet while I work and her mom shops. It's all soothing piano, elevator-music type versions of the many familiar standards in lullabies. I was liking it because it's basically background music, and I barely noticed it.
Until I did notice, with half an ear, that I was hearing a lullaby version of the "Battle Hymn of the Republic," which is one of the weirder ideas I've heard of.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (5jaxN)
461
@441
Someone's got to get a haircut, it's obviously not going to be the politicians and it certainly shouldn't be the taxpayers, so sorry union folk, embrace the suck as if you were a public sector employee and blame the appropriate parties.
Someone's got to get a haircut, it's obviously not going to be the politicians and it certainly shouldn't be the taxpayers, so sorry union folk, embrace the suck as if you were a public sector employee and blame the appropriate parties.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (xXJfx)
462
How to tell the difference between a blunder and malfeasance.
A person is walking down the street, stumbles into an old lady knocking
her down. Was it a blunder or malfeasance? If it was a blunder the
person will be confused, surprised, apologetic, and try making up for
their error. If it is malfeasance the person will have a plausible story
to tell you - it will place the blame everywhere but upon him -
somebody shoved him, there was a crack in the sidewalk etc. People who
do things deliberately always have their asses covered.
Greg Abbott
blundered in his response to the Whu Flu. In the case of Andrew Cuomo,
he is either a psychopathic serial killer, or he was trying to run up
the body count in nursing homes for political reasons, when he ordered
nursing homes to take Covid-19 patients; his actions were not blunders.
A person is walking down the street, stumbles into an old lady knocking
her down. Was it a blunder or malfeasance? If it was a blunder the
person will be confused, surprised, apologetic, and try making up for
their error. If it is malfeasance the person will have a plausible story
to tell you - it will place the blame everywhere but upon him -
somebody shoved him, there was a crack in the sidewalk etc. People who
do things deliberately always have their asses covered.
Greg Abbott
blundered in his response to the Whu Flu. In the case of Andrew Cuomo,
he is either a psychopathic serial killer, or he was trying to run up
the body count in nursing homes for political reasons, when he ordered
nursing homes to take Covid-19 patients; his actions were not blunders.
Posted by: An Observation at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (oL9F3)
Posted by: Herbert West at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (mjJ4C)
464
No sympathy.
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
You take care of yourself first. That is until the government confiscates your retirement fund to cover the bills on their bad decisions and gives the money to the pensioners.
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
You take care of yourself first. That is until the government confiscates your retirement fund to cover the bills on their bad decisions and gives the money to the pensioners.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (FamXy)
465
Hahahaha Evers just ordained that some stores may re-open but only 5 customers in the store at a time. Oh be still my heart!
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (lwiT4)
466
>> Auto companies that have reporting April sales figures show a 40% - 55% decline.
You don't want to look at the auto loan situation.
And the rental car business has gone to about zero as well. There was a little local parking here that was slap full of cars in one section. WTF? Asked around and it was a local rental car company needed space to park cars. They had run out of room.
And then I was reading on ZeroHedge that this is a nationwide thing. They're renting parking lots and any spaces they can find to park their fleets.
At any point, a large fraction of their fleet is out on the road. Not any more.
You don't want to look at the auto loan situation.
And the rental car business has gone to about zero as well. There was a little local parking here that was slap full of cars in one section. WTF? Asked around and it was a local rental car company needed space to park cars. They had run out of room.
And then I was reading on ZeroHedge that this is a nationwide thing. They're renting parking lots and any spaces they can find to park their fleets.
At any point, a large fraction of their fleet is out on the road. Not any more.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (rCwaK)
467
I'm fb friends with quite a few musicians, htey were all about wearing the masks etc, they're almost to a person highly liberal and emotional.
They're the same persons expressing shock at the live music industry collapsing.
yeah, not the most well-thourght out folks...if you're a pro musician over 40 with no backup plan, it's on you really.
I'm fb friends with quite a few musicians, htey were all about wearing the masks etc, they're almost to a person highly liberal and emotional.
They're the same persons expressing shock at the live music industry collapsing.
yeah, not the most well-thourght out folks...if you're a pro musician over 40 with no backup plan, it's on you really.
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (lg/F7)
468
I got the 2017 flu also. Damn near killed me. Lead to pneumonia and three days of not being able to sleep.
Never got the flu before that so never even thought about getting a vaccine. Got one every year since then. I do not want to go through that twice.
Never got the flu before that so never even thought about getting a vaccine. Got one every year since then. I do not want to go through that twice.
Posted by: Big V Caffeinated at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (NeD6B)
469
Aren't #NeverTrumpers so precious & adorable when they are young...
Matt Lewis
@mattklewis
4 hours ago
Ugh. The Chuck Todd/Bill Barr thing comes on the heels of the Jimmy Kimmel/Mike Pence thing.... We all make mistakes, but the media's zeal to push back on Trumpism is ironically reinforcing Trump's dangerous "fake news" narrative...
Matt Lewis
@mattklewis
4 hours ago
Ugh. The Chuck Todd/Bill Barr thing comes on the heels of the Jimmy Kimmel/Mike Pence thing.... We all make mistakes, but the media's zeal to push back on Trumpism is ironically reinforcing Trump's dangerous "fake news" narrative...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (FBrfY)
470
Posted by: Sock Monkey..safety off at May 11, 2020 01:45 PM (grQ0q)
What will be the result of a vaccine?
Lots more money going to drug companies?
What will be the result of a vaccine?
Lots more money going to drug companies?
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (NgKpN)
471
"Commenters point out that leftist Karens have never felt any especial need to live under the strictures of the martinet rules they inflict on others.
Posted by Ace at 12:28 PM Comments"
It's part of these sociopaths's kink. Communist and their snitch bitches love forcing people to live under rules and regimes they never will have to endure just to watch the proles suffer.
Posted by Ace at 12:28 PM Comments"
It's part of these sociopaths's kink. Communist and their snitch bitches love forcing people to live under rules and regimes they never will have to endure just to watch the proles suffer.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (puu6v)
472
The voters are to blame, partly or fully.
Posted by: Gref
Non. The voters are immaterial in Illinois. The Dem legislature is why the pensions are the problem. State jobs are unionized. There are huge numbers of state "jobs". Unions support Dem legislators. You do the math.
Posted by: Gref
Non. The voters are immaterial in Illinois. The Dem legislature is why the pensions are the problem. State jobs are unionized. There are huge numbers of state "jobs". Unions support Dem legislators. You do the math.
Posted by: corn and beans at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (tkNkP)
473
"456 What if, and I'm just thinking out loud, what if they develop a "vaccine!" for Chinese Bat Virus?"
They'll just change the benchmark. It will now be, "we'll have to wait and see if the vaccine is effective."
This lockdown is nowhere near ending.
They'll just change the benchmark. It will now be, "we'll have to wait and see if the vaccine is effective."
This lockdown is nowhere near ending.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (H8QX8)
474
469 Aren't #NeverTrumpers so precious & adorable when they are young...
Matt Lewis
@mattklewis
4 hours ago
Ugh. The Chuck Todd/Bill Barr thing comes on the heels of the Jimmy Kimmel/Mike Pence thing.... We all make mistakes, but the media's zeal to push back on Trumpism is ironically reinforcing Trump's dangerous "fake news" narrative...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (FBrfY)
=========
Maybe it's not the narrative of "fake news" that's dangerous.
Maybe it's the fake news itself.
Matt Lewis
@mattklewis
4 hours ago
Ugh. The Chuck Todd/Bill Barr thing comes on the heels of the Jimmy Kimmel/Mike Pence thing.... We all make mistakes, but the media's zeal to push back on Trumpism is ironically reinforcing Trump's dangerous "fake news" narrative...
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 11, 2020 01:46 PM (FBrfY)
=========
Maybe it's not the narrative of "fake news" that's dangerous.
Maybe it's the fake news itself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (LvTSG)
475
One day my county's death toll actually dropped by two.
Posted by: grammie winger
F*ck! Covid causes zombies!
Posted by: grammie winger
F*ck! Covid causes zombies!
Posted by: mikeski at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (P1f+c)
476
Put a picture of me in a shoulder to shoulder crowded mall in Nashville during Christmas last year - captioned, glad the lockdown is over. Some lib went ape shit, posting all kinds of mindless insults. Sat there laughing for a little while deleting, then blocked him.
Everything else today will just be gravy.
Everything else today will just be gravy.
Posted by: Menack at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (buTO7)
477
The Illinois Pension Problem will have NO Happy Ending. There is No Money. The State Government did this.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (bCLt0)
478
@456
It will give everyone cover to return to NORMAL, that is until the next operation is launched.
It will give everyone cover to return to NORMAL, that is until the next operation is launched.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (xXJfx)
479
448 there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
Bird in the hand?
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
Bird in the hand?
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (kGLPx)
480
Maybe it's not the narrative of "fake news" that's dangerous.
Maybe it's the fake news itself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (LvTSG)
++++++++++++
Don't harsh his vibe, man.
Maybe it's the fake news itself.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, fighting terrorist in Nakatomi Tower at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (LvTSG)
++++++++++++
Don't harsh his vibe, man.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (hYcqw)
481
It's a mess. The pensioners played the game by the rules at the time, so they have a legitimate beef if they get stiffed.
The voters are to blame, partly or fully
+++++++++++
Nope. Pensioners and government.
Voters were locked out when the unions and government negotiated terms.
Same as it is all across the country. That's why there shouldn't be public employee unions.
Voters are the ones that take a bath.
The voters are to blame, partly or fully
+++++++++++
Nope. Pensioners and government.
Voters were locked out when the unions and government negotiated terms.
Same as it is all across the country. That's why there shouldn't be public employee unions.
Voters are the ones that take a bath.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (Pr4ah)
482
I heard a Dr explain on the radio that HCQ+Zinc
works to make cells more resistant to the bug, not as a cure, which is
why it does well early rather than late.
Posted by: davidt at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (l3+k2)
the French are still testing nicotine and nicotine patches. That was big news for a day but then went super silent. The tobacco company BIT shot up one day when they were rumored to be working on a vaccine.
No one is promoting tobacco, including myself. But it is funny how the French thing about nicotine and not tobacco per se went silent a few weeks ago. The info is there for anyone to look up. THis all came from main stream sites. But if it funny some of the reactions. They have to tell us 5 times that smoking is bad even when reporting this news. Well, no shit. Just report the bloody news and stop treating us like children.
works to make cells more resistant to the bug, not as a cure, which is
why it does well early rather than late.
Posted by: davidt at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (l3+k2)
the French are still testing nicotine and nicotine patches. That was big news for a day but then went super silent. The tobacco company BIT shot up one day when they were rumored to be working on a vaccine.
No one is promoting tobacco, including myself. But it is funny how the French thing about nicotine and not tobacco per se went silent a few weeks ago. The info is there for anyone to look up. THis all came from main stream sites. But if it funny some of the reactions. They have to tell us 5 times that smoking is bad even when reporting this news. Well, no shit. Just report the bloody news and stop treating us like children.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (hHxp2)
483
The pensioners played the game by the rules at the time, so they have a
legitimate beef if they get stiffed. The voters are to blame, partly
or fully.
------------
In this case the pensioners were also the voters. So yes, they are too blame.
legitimate beef if they get stiffed. The voters are to blame, partly
or fully.
------------
In this case the pensioners were also the voters. So yes, they are too blame.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (sX1BW)
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (kOpft)
485
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++
"That which can't go on, won't go on?"
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++
"That which can't go on, won't go on?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (hYcqw)
486
In summary, Illinois is a failed state.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (bCLt0)
487
sorry, bti.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (hHxp2)
488
You would think that HCQ would be over the counter at this point. You can't get high on it and the very limited side effects are well known.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (r+sAi)
I am told it is sold OTC in Nicaragua, and also Mexico.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at May 11, 2020 12:57 PM (r+sAi)
I am told it is sold OTC in Nicaragua, and also Mexico.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (LZcDP)
Posted by: Methos at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (kOpft)
490
I'm so old I remember when Riecsh Fuehrer Newsome proclaimed exactly 56% of all Californians (22.5 million) would get CV19. Current status 68,000 or approximately 0.3% of Fuehrer Newsome's prediction.
Never materialized so the only solution is vote by mail and MOAR LOCKDOWN!!!
Never materialized so the only solution is vote by mail and MOAR LOCKDOWN!!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (pw+jk)
491
We rented a Rav4 to take on a trip. About $20 per day, all fees included. If you can do it this is a great time for a road trip. Cheap gas, no traffic, empty hotels.
Posted by: Pete Seria at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (sJi+I)
492
In summary, Illinois *insert Democrat run state here* is a failed state.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (bCLt0)
Corrected for accuracy.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:49 PM (bCLt0)
Corrected for accuracy.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 11, 2020 01:50 PM (Zz0t1)
493
the media's zeal to push back on Trumpism is ironically reinforcing Trump's dangerous "fake news" narrative...
The word is confirming.
The word is confirming.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 01:50 PM (wCLLY)
494
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
Nah, this is when your despotic governor passes out ammo and tells the guard to fix bayonets.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
Nah, this is when your despotic governor passes out ammo and tells the guard to fix bayonets.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at May 11, 2020 01:50 PM (1g7ch)
495
We need to quarantine America with a big, beautiful southern wall along our border with Mexico.
Posted by: The at May 11, 2020 01:50 PM (g19P3)
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 01:50 PM (xXJfx)
497
So I talked to Cornpop the other day, he remembered it different ...
Posted by: Yo! at May 11, 2020 01:50 PM (q2fym)
498
Remember #HasJustineLandedYet? The day we gave twitter the authority to enforce social order and get total nobodies fired from their job for an inappropriate joke.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 11, 2020 01:51 PM (Xlhf2)
499
Maybe it is worse in other locales but from what i am seeing, people are lifting the quarantine by voting with their feet.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (hHxp2)
Not here...there has been an increase in automobile traffic, but I see no businesses opening.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (hHxp2)
Not here...there has been an increase in automobile traffic, but I see no businesses opening.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2020 01:51 PM (dLLD6)
500
485 Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++
"That which can't go on, won't go on?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (hYcqw)
We beg to differ!
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:44 PM (sX1BW)
+++++++++++
"That which can't go on, won't go on?"
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:48 PM (hYcqw)
We beg to differ!
Posted by: Grand Magus of the Ferengi at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (NgKpN)
501
At some point, why would anyone who had even a single conservative thought in their head ever go to Twitter? You're just going to get scorned (at least) for even a shred of non-orthodoxy.
Isn't this going to become self-defeating after a while? You'll drive away and alienate many otherwise persuadable moderates or even liberals who have a few independent thoghts.
Isn't this going to become self-defeating after a while? You'll drive away and alienate many otherwise persuadable moderates or even liberals who have a few independent thoghts.
Posted by: RM at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (U3LtS)
502
Unfunded pensioners would be a problem, until they all died out, I suppose.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (bCLt0)
503
Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Everything is worth the discounted net present value of its future cash earnings.
Duh.
Everything is worth the discounted net present value of its future cash earnings.
Duh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (gd9RK)
504
Zombie - "I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown."
============================
Only half? Trump victory.
============================
Only half? Trump victory.
Posted by: mrp at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (Pqytn)
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (GbPPJ)
506
At some point, why would anyone who had even a single conservative thought in their head ever go to Twitter?
--------------
Trump's twitter feed is can't miss entertainment.
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Trump's twitter feed is can't miss entertainment.
Posted by: SH at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (sX1BW)
507
there is only one real financial rule.
In this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig..
In this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig..
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (wCLLY)
508
When even your own liberal base ignores the rules, there are no longer any rules. The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
Nah, this is when your despotic governor passes out ammo and tells the guard to fix bayonets.
Posted by: Burnt Toast
Psssst. National Guardsmen, look around at the barrels already pointing at you.
Now might be the time to accept a more lucrative job offer.
Posted by: zombie at May 11, 2020 12:37 PM (N9G0H)
Nah, this is when your despotic governor passes out ammo and tells the guard to fix bayonets.
Posted by: Burnt Toast
Psssst. National Guardsmen, look around at the barrels already pointing at you.
Now might be the time to accept a more lucrative job offer.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 11, 2020 01:53 PM (Pr4ah)
509
The Karen's can gather and party without masks. None of THEIR friends have COVID, and besides, THEY know how to take precautions, and not wear a mask. Government needs to force those other people, not as smart as Karen and her friends, to wear masks.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (Xlhf2)
510
A drop of only 50%?
That is actually surprising.
That means half of people who normally would buy a car said: This still looks like a good time to buy a car!
That is actually surprising.
That means half of people who normally would buy a car said: This still looks like a good time to buy a car!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (A5zUN)
511
499 Maybe it is worse in other locales but from what i am seeing, people are lifting the quarantine by voting with their feet.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (hHxp2)
Not here...there has been an increase in automobile traffic, but I see no businesses opening.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2020 01:51 PM (dLLD6)
I was kinda thinking that voting with their feet could also mean moving the hell away. As in my putting my Illinois house up for sale two weeks ago. Now, I have wait to see if a sucker, er, I mean buyer, comes along.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 01:40 PM (hHxp2)
Not here...there has been an increase in automobile traffic, but I see no businesses opening.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at May 11, 2020 01:51 PM (dLLD6)
I was kinda thinking that voting with their feet could also mean moving the hell away. As in my putting my Illinois house up for sale two weeks ago. Now, I have wait to see if a sucker, er, I mean buyer, comes along.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (bCLt0)
512
In this world there's two kinds of people, my friend. Those with loaded guns and those who dig..
Posted by: Grump928(c)
I just watched that again yesterday.
such a classic
Posted by: Grump928(c)
I just watched that again yesterday.
such a classic
Posted by: nurse ratched at May 11, 2020 01:55 PM (d7Ww2)
513
Somebody put Coke in Trump's Diet Coke again today.
Dude be goin' off - in a good, amusing way.
Hammering still on Chuck Todd.
And very interesting - now starting to directly enter the "re-opening" fray. Singles out PA, but also says Dems are moving slowly across the USA, would wait til Nov. 3 if they could.
And I was just about to ask: do the Dems really think they're helping themselves in Nov. in WI/MI/PA with their current vandalism? They really think the "politics" of this at the presidential level are not on Trump's side (get back to work), but theirs?
Trump didn't win those states with the votes of brain-dead NPR listeners and Soviet-mentality drones who make up most of the Dems' non-racist/tribalist "base". They're mostly the ones who are unthinking enough or submission-driven enough to indulge the completely unscientific "phased" crap going on there.
Dude be goin' off - in a good, amusing way.
Hammering still on Chuck Todd.
And very interesting - now starting to directly enter the "re-opening" fray. Singles out PA, but also says Dems are moving slowly across the USA, would wait til Nov. 3 if they could.
And I was just about to ask: do the Dems really think they're helping themselves in Nov. in WI/MI/PA with their current vandalism? They really think the "politics" of this at the presidential level are not on Trump's side (get back to work), but theirs?
Trump didn't win those states with the votes of brain-dead NPR listeners and Soviet-mentality drones who make up most of the Dems' non-racist/tribalist "base". They're mostly the ones who are unthinking enough or submission-driven enough to indulge the completely unscientific "phased" crap going on there.
Posted by: rhomboid at May 11, 2020 01:55 PM (El6T/)
514
503 Besides, there is only one real financial rule.
Everything is worth the discounted net present value of its future cash earnings.
Duh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (gd9RK)
Math head!
Everything is worth the discounted net present value of its future cash earnings.
Duh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at May 11, 2020 01:52 PM (gd9RK)
Math head!
Posted by: m at May 11, 2020 01:55 PM (kGLPx)
515
Nood.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 01:55 PM (A5zUN)
516
Pension funds are fucked. CalPERs has been shitting the bed with the market crash.
These ridiculous public sector (and some private sector) "defined benefit" schemes depend on rosy economic growth and interest rate assumptions.
You take the present value of the stream of payments you're going to have make over the future, vs the present value of the income you're going to make to pay for it.
They make all sorts of ridiculous assumptions on the latter to keep the amounts they have to pay in as low as possible
And low interest rates kill them as well. The Fed is locked in a box and must keep interest rates low less it blow up the federal govt. Debt held by the public to GDP is going to blow past 100% this year.
Pension funds are fucked. CalPERs has been shitting the bed with the market crash.
These ridiculous public sector (and some private sector) "defined benefit" schemes depend on rosy economic growth and interest rate assumptions.
You take the present value of the stream of payments you're going to have make over the future, vs the present value of the income you're going to make to pay for it.
They make all sorts of ridiculous assumptions on the latter to keep the amounts they have to pay in as low as possible
And low interest rates kill them as well. The Fed is locked in a box and must keep interest rates low less it blow up the federal govt. Debt held by the public to GDP is going to blow past 100% this year.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at May 11, 2020 01:55 PM (rCwaK)
517
473
"456 What if, and I'm just thinking out loud, what if they develop a "vaccine!" for Chinese Bat Virus?"
They'll just change the benchmark. It will now be, "we'll have to wait and see if the vaccine is effective."
This lockdown is nowhere near ending.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (H8QX
_____________
"As long as any virus remains on the planet that a human being can contract, we'll need to remain locked down -- for the children."
"456 What if, and I'm just thinking out loud, what if they develop a "vaccine!" for Chinese Bat Virus?"
They'll just change the benchmark. It will now be, "we'll have to wait and see if the vaccine is effective."
This lockdown is nowhere near ending.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at May 11, 2020 01:47 PM (H8QX
_____________
"As long as any virus remains on the planet that a human being can contract, we'll need to remain locked down -- for the children."
Posted by: ShainS at May 11, 2020 01:55 PM (W/DUY)
518
People keep telling me "I think the second wave will be even worse." I just roll my eyes and say "No, it won't. If there is a 'second wave'.
Posted by: mrp at May 11, 2020 01:56 PM (Pqytn)
519
"It's a start, and will give agencies pause as they will have good reason to fire these people.
The idea that a bureaucrat gets shielded like this but a company doesn't makes no sense."
Stipulate that money to pay for lawsuits comes from the personnel budget.
Hit them in their little fiefdoms.
The idea that a bureaucrat gets shielded like this but a company doesn't makes no sense."
Stipulate that money to pay for lawsuits comes from the personnel budget.
Hit them in their little fiefdoms.
Posted by: Adorably Deplorable Delayna--Sinistra Delenda Est at May 11, 2020 01:56 PM (KNFU5)
520
NNOOD Dumb Karen
Posted by: grammie winger at May 11, 2020 01:56 PM (lwiT4)
521
Zombie - "I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown."
============================
Only half? Trump victory.
Posted by: mrp
In other words, no insight, no progress. Simultaneously jailbreaking the lockdown and bashing Trump.
It's Cynical Monday.
Zombie - "I could eavesdrop half the partygoers bashing Trump. AND YET they also were whining about the lockdown."
============================
Only half? Trump victory.
Posted by: mrp
In other words, no insight, no progress. Simultaneously jailbreaking the lockdown and bashing Trump.
It's Cynical Monday.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at May 11, 2020 01:57 PM (SFAhl)
522
A drop of only 50%?
That is actually surprising.
That means half of people who normally would buy a car said: This still looks like a good time to buy a car!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (A5zUN)
++++++++++++
Among those reporting (Hyundai, Mazda, Toyota). The rest haven't reported yet (Ford, GM, FCA, Subaru, VAG, etc.)
That is actually surprising.
That means half of people who normally would buy a car said: This still looks like a good time to buy a car!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (A5zUN)
++++++++++++
Among those reporting (Hyundai, Mazda, Toyota). The rest haven't reported yet (Ford, GM, FCA, Subaru, VAG, etc.)
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 11, 2020 01:57 PM (hYcqw)
523
Obama's Bloodiest Scandal Reemerges As Mexico Demands Apology For Operation Fast And Furious
-
1) About damn time.
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
-
1) About damn time.
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 01:57 PM (+y/Ru)
524
The inversions, perversions and distortions inherent in the public sector pension system are illustrated using the NYPD.
These numbers are a few years old and have only gotten worse...
NYC pays 4.6 billion to 36k active duty officers.
NYC also pays 4.7 billion to 43k retired officers.
The problems with this situation should be pretty obvious.
These numbers are a few years old and have only gotten worse...
NYC pays 4.6 billion to 36k active duty officers.
NYC also pays 4.7 billion to 43k retired officers.
The problems with this situation should be pretty obvious.
Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 11, 2020 01:58 PM (xXJfx)
525
Obama's Bloodiest Scandal Reemerges As Mexico Demands Apology For Operation Fast And Furious
-
1) About damn time.
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 01:57 PM (+y/Ru)
An apology seems insufficient. Perhaps extradition will mollify them.
-
1) About damn time.
2) They're demanding an apology from Trump for something Obozo and the Chinless Wonder did?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at May 11, 2020 01:57 PM (+y/Ru)
An apology seems insufficient. Perhaps extradition will mollify them.
Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 11, 2020 02:00 PM (wCLLY)
526
I was kinda thinking that voting with their feet
could also mean moving the hell away. As in my putting my Illinois house
up for sale two weeks ago. Now, I have wait to see if a sucker, er, I
mean buyer, comes along.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (bCLt0)
It has always been my favorite poltical/historical example. I said just a few days ago it had a couple of different meanings. Your meaning is the most pure, they simply leave and go somewhere else. It is easy to talk, but people in the end, vote with their feet.
btw, good luck to you. It is one thing to say it, but another to do it.
could also mean moving the hell away. As in my putting my Illinois house
up for sale two weeks ago. Now, I have wait to see if a sucker, er, I
mean buyer, comes along.
Posted by: tubal at May 11, 2020 01:54 PM (bCLt0)
It has always been my favorite poltical/historical example. I said just a few days ago it had a couple of different meanings. Your meaning is the most pure, they simply leave and go somewhere else. It is easy to talk, but people in the end, vote with their feet.
btw, good luck to you. It is one thing to say it, but another to do it.
Posted by: Quint at May 11, 2020 02:01 PM (hHxp2)
527
https://tinyurl.com/yavq883a
Supreme Court Will Soon Decide Whether To Reconsider Qualified Immunity.
The Clarkson Vs White case is particularly important:
"it asks the Court to clarify that qualified immunity should not apply when aconstitutionalrightis
clearly established and the only uncertainty in the case law is whether
aparticular individual can be sued for its violation."
Supreme Court Will Soon Decide Whether To Reconsider Qualified Immunity.
The Clarkson Vs White case is particularly important:
"it asks the Court to clarify that qualified immunity should not apply when aconstitutionalrightis
clearly established and the only uncertainty in the case law is whether
aparticular individual can be sued for its violation."
Posted by: An Observation at May 11, 2020 02:03 PM (oL9F3)
528
If you'd told me 4 years ago that I'd be nodding along to a Matt Taibbi column...
Posted by: Maixiu at May 11, 2020 02:09 PM (v48yj)
529
Masks will be fun in high summer, huh, Karen? Enjoy those Fred Flintstone tan lines!
Posted by: Charo at May 11, 2020 02:09 PM (oVJmc)
530
Birx, please.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at May 11, 2020 02:10 PM (oVJmc)
531
A drop of only 50%?
That is actually surprising.
That means half of people who normally would buy a car said: This still looks like a good time to buy a car!
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I wonder how sales vs. leases, or dealer-funded auto loans vs. otherwise-funded, count for their "sales" numbers.
It could be a lot of ongoing charges and not new sales, if they're counting dollars rather than cars.
That is actually surprising.
That means half of people who normally would buy a car said: This still looks like a good time to buy a car!
Posted by: Aetius451AD
I wonder how sales vs. leases, or dealer-funded auto loans vs. otherwise-funded, count for their "sales" numbers.
It could be a lot of ongoing charges and not new sales, if they're counting dollars rather than cars.
Posted by: mikeski at May 11, 2020 02:17 PM (P1f+c)
532
226---...I personally know THREE people that died from that shit.
I get my flu shot now.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (nw6Hr)
-------------------------------------------
Impossible! No one dies from the flu! Just corona!
I get my flu shot now.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 11, 2020 01:02 PM (nw6Hr)
-------------------------------------------
Impossible! No one dies from the flu! Just corona!
Posted by: Margarita DeVille at May 11, 2020 02:23 PM (M/9m0)
533
Here in Laramie they opened the bars Friday. Some rules but everyone in the brewery went maskless except for the guy that poured my beer. Restaurants still take out only.
This thing is over.
This thing is over.
Posted by: Fletch at May 11, 2020 02:26 PM (wElQq)
534
"The lockdown is disintegrating.
Posted by: zombie"
Yep. Wife Scottish Kate and I visited our son and DIL yesterday.
And, yes, she has been one of the scolds, terrified if I pulled my mask down to stop my glasses from steaming up.
Not now. Hugs and kisses all around even for the grandkids.
First time in week that Gran (roll the RRRS) was able to hold our 2 year old grandson.
Although how she picked him up I don't know, he's a 2 1/2 year old fullback in the making.
Posted by: zombie"
Yep. Wife Scottish Kate and I visited our son and DIL yesterday.
And, yes, she has been one of the scolds, terrified if I pulled my mask down to stop my glasses from steaming up.
Not now. Hugs and kisses all around even for the grandkids.
First time in week that Gran (roll the RRRS) was able to hold our 2 year old grandson.
Although how she picked him up I don't know, he's a 2 1/2 year old fullback in the making.
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at May 11, 2020 02:40 PM (T09ml)
535
So who still realy trusts those lying leftists dirty liberal Journalists anymore Not I SAID THE DRONGO BIRD
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 11, 2020 02:41 PM (FLiOE)
536
Ladies, need a chuckle? Try a little *Juggling the Jenkins* binge-watching over at YouTube.
Posted by: Kathy at May 11, 2020 02:57 PM (qv3wo)
537
What's different about liberals ignoring the rules thay want us to live and die by?
Posted by: Lewis Bowlby at May 11, 2020 04:09 PM (Lxxwf)
538
When a state can't borrow enough to meet its current obligations (and if it doesn't get bailed out by Fedgov) it will end up in Federal bankruptcy court, which I don't believe will give a rat's ass about any existing contracts including the state constitution when it determines the resolution. Pensioners and current employees WILL get a haircut.
Posted by: Bigsmith at May 11, 2020 05:54 PM (G/mW5)
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Liberals don't feel the need to live by the rules they edict from on high, they think they're above such peasantry. I know numerous liberals who break the rules daily while screeching at the rest of us. Remember do as they not as they do.
Posted by: Rose at May 11, 2020 06:21 PM (f/Wek)
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