China Lied About Danger of Wuhan Flu So They Could Secretly Purchase Medical Supplies From Around the World and Hoard Them

quick let's export more critical manufacturing base to china while there's still time

U.S. officials believe China covered up the extent of the coronavirus outbreak -- and how contagious the disease is -- to stock up on medical supplies needed to respond to it, intelligence documents show.
Chinese leaders "intentionally concealed the severity" of the pandemic from the world in early January, according to a four-page Department of Homeland Security intelligence report dated May 1 and obtained by The Associated Press. The revelation comes as the Trump administration has intensified its criticism of China, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo saying Sunday that that country was responsible for the spread of disease and must be held accountable.

As Bonchie puts it:

In other words, China let the world burn for almost a month to try to save themselves. That's the country the WHO and many American media companies have chosen to side with routinely. That’s the country some like Bill Gates are claiming did a good job early on with the virus. All so they can snipe at the orange man.

Update: I'm sure Joey Fingers will be tough on China, huh?

This is really dangerous language - both in inciting bigotry against Asians and raising the risk of conflict with China. https://t.co/7ZUN2HlydX
— Ben Rhodes (@brhodes) May 3, 2020

This is painfully stupid. China is a country. Pompeo is obviously criticizing their govt, not people of Asian descent.

That so many on the left conflate the two is proof that either a) they can’t draw a delineation or b) they have other reasons to push Chinese propaganda. https://t.co/JIo6oS44t2
— Drew Holden (@DrewHolden360) May 4, 2020

Pompeo also says there is "enormous evidence" that the Wuhan flu escaped from the Tier 4 biohazard lab at Wuhan, not from the wet market.

The Chinese Communist Party continues to block access to the Western world, the world's best scientists, refusing to cooperate with world health experts, to figure out exactly what happened. This unacceptable during an ongoing threat, an ongoing pandemic. pic.twitter.com/qa156CfTAB
— Secretary Pompeo (@SecPompeo) May 3, 2020

#COVID19 DHS intel report @CBSNews “We assess the Chinese Government intentionally concealed the severity of COVID-19 from the international community in early January while it stockpiled medical supplies by both increasing imports and decreasing exports.” First reported AP pic.twitter.com/jE72KJ9CVx
— Catherine Herridge (@CBS_Herridge) May 4, 2020

Posted by: Ace at 12:08 PM

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1 first.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2020 12:09 PM (JUOKG)

2 This is something that we knew here some time ago, glad to see the rest of the Country is catching up.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at May 04, 2020 12:09 PM (JUOKG)

3 CHINA IS ASSHOE

Posted by: Defenestratus at May 04, 2020 12:11 PM (9V81o)

4 I wish those news hags would just retire before they mummify.

Posted by: pep at May 04, 2020 12:11 PM (T6t7i)

5 Tom Cotton has a boatload of I Told You Sos to use up.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:12 PM (ZLI7S)

6 Glad this is getting more exposure. China needs to be held to account for what they've done to the world.

Posted by: Liberty at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (u6FC9)

7 Hola

Posted by: Thanatopsis at beautiful Chancre del Diablo ranch at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (IG06t)

8 I saw a post on 4chan back in February alleging Chinese people were paying other people to shop for them in Australia, seeking people to buy mass quantities of face masks, sanitizer, bleach, toilet paper, etc and then send it all to China. Sounded like typical 4chan conspiracy stuff at the time.

Posted by: brak at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (cG+eD)

9 And the media made sure to lavish praise on China for their magnanimity when they "donated" these medical supplies to European countries in need (making an unreported hefty profit in the process).

Posted by: espant at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (gJAok)

10 Its okay for developing countries to steal, lie and cheat.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:14 PM (QKjMn)

11 China is doing a super job despite Trump!

Posted by: Your sycophant press at May 04, 2020 12:14 PM (5bxa0)

12 Repudiate any debt owed to China and kick out Chinese college students.

Posted by: mr tmz at May 04, 2020 12:14 PM (m/Gc2)

13 Thanks Ace.

We can stop talking about TV shows now.

China is serious asshoe.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:14 PM (4k/Uz)

14 This is real and confirmed

Boycott, Divest, Sanction China.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at May 04, 2020 12:14 PM (ifmtJ)

15 BTW, I have a China is Asshole shirt now.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (QKjMn)

16 Will be interesting to see how this affects relations going forward.

Posted by: Someguy at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (Zm+LZ)

17 Good. I'm glad the federal government is saying this.

Epoch Times folks have been saying this for weeks.

China wuwu lab lady doctor researcher has been tinkering with bat viruses for years. Until quite recently she was bragging about making them more transmissible to humans.

Whoops! Whoopsie!!

Someone forgot to wear their mask where masks are kinda sorta, you know, important to wear.

Posted by: BurtTC at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

18 Fucking Celestials

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (Qn8OB)

19 Ruh, roh.

Posted by: Sum Ting Wong at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (EgshT)

20 It's like the left hand of the mafia roughing up shop owners and then the right hand of the mafia coming in to "offer" protection ... for the right price.

Posted by: Peter Marlow at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (dmYb7)

21 The Left always sees their enemies as behaving exactly as they would thus China believed the West would hoard PPE and other equipment so they had to get there first. They'd never think that others might give them the stuff as humanitarian relief.

Plus their enemies are stripped of the stuff and more vulnerable so win-win.

Posted by: geoffb at May 04, 2020 12:15 PM (zOpu5)

22 Ok, so next step is holding China to account.

How?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:16 PM (4k/Uz)

23 Wuhan Lab is the only thing that makes sense. Even if it escaped by accident, China deliberately let it get out into the world and then lied about it. And have kept lying about it.

/kind of a mild act of war IMHO

Posted by: shibumi, on covid house arrest at May 04, 2020 12:16 PM (ZCiJZ)

24 Translation: It was a feature, not a bug. Because Commie bastages.

Posted by: Lamp posts are still for fascists at May 04, 2020 12:17 PM (4ceyg)

25 there's no way around it - the behavior of the CCP re: this was warlike, these were acts of aggression.

but we're not into the idea of going to war with THEM so I guess the "one bad" rule is in effect

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at May 04, 2020 12:17 PM (j9HX3)

26 22 Ok, so next step is holding China to account.

How?
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Moar Tariffs. Especially on medical supplies and cell phone components.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:17 PM (QKjMn)

27 So, China:
- Lost control of viral samples, allowing them to escape into the population (this is assumption, but the story does seem to be growing)
- Lied openly about it to the WHO and everyone else. They lied about everything - time of discovery, source, community spread, severity - the whole magilla.
- Bought up medical supplies for the purpose of hoarding them while lying about the disease.
- Suspended intra-China travel from Wuhan, but permitted international travel from Wuhan.
- Provided faulty PPE and testing equipment to many countries.
- Attached conditions to PPE and testing sales to force Huawei 5G equipment, or there is no sale at any price.

This is increasingly looking like China went to war with the world.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (hYcqw)

28 Don Shula, Hall of Fame Dolphins coach, dead at 90

Posted by: SMOD at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (3aI0K)

29 I'll echo another Moron in appreciating the last two months in helping him decide who he could REALLY count on in a genuine emergency.

Sadly, in my case that doesn't include my wife. So I'm left wondering if I stay put and die with her or get the hell out of Dodge with the kids if/when the time comes.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (4k/Uz)

30 China? Come on, man. You know--the thing.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (sWM8x)

31 And the media made sure to lavish praise on China for their magnanimity when they "donated" these medical supplies to European countries in need (making an unreported hefty profit in the process).

Posted by: espant at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (gJAok)
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Not to mention but A LOT of those supplies were in unusable condition, or outright defective. I believe Italy received millions of dollars worth of worthless supplies that they had actually paid for, weren't "donated".

Posted by: Boots at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (oGBso)

32 Primarily Chinese patients cleaned my hospital out of all the free facemasks that were readily available on the wall in every hallway and near every elevator (right next to the boxes of tissues). They would pull out all the masks (100 or so), put them into a bookbag, and walk to the next station and do the same. The hospital's custodial staff kept dutifully refilling all the stations many times a day for weeks without reporting anything until the supplies ran out. My question is whether these Chinese people were even patients or just employees or people walking in off the street.

Posted by: merkkatt at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (gJAok)

33 hi ace
how ya feeling?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (G546f)

34 And SanFran Nan wants nothing to do with an investigation of China but instead wants to investigate Trump... Impeachment II The sequel...

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:19 PM (5bxa0)

35
So.

Ive been seeing all weekend inferences that Fauci sent Corona to China to study its abilty for enhancement of transmissibility. That type of research is illegal in the US. But they got around it by outsourcing it to China and that the Obama Administration funded that research.

Kinda like they worked around domestic spying laws using the Steels Dossier.

Does anybody have any low down on that??

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:19 PM (nw6Hr)

36 Sadly, in my case that doesn't include my wife. So I'm left wondering if I stay put and die with her or get the hell out of Dodge with the kids if/when the time comes.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (4k/Uz)
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Has she offered you any Cloroquine Punch with your lunch?

Posted by: Boots at May 04, 2020 12:19 PM (oGBso)

37 Chinese cocksucka!

Posted by: Mr. Wu at May 04, 2020 12:19 PM (ZLI7S)

38 32 Primarily Chinese patients cleaned my hospital out of all the free facemasks that were readily available on the wall in every hallway and near every elevator (right next to the boxes of tissues). They would pull out all the masks (100 or so), put them into a bookbag, and walk to the next station and do the same. The hospital's custodial staff kept dutifully refilling all the stations many times a day for weeks without reporting anything until the supplies ran out. My question is whether these Chinese people were even patients or just employees or people walking in off the street.
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Queens, NY?

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:19 PM (QKjMn)

39 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (LvTSG)

40 Moar Tariffs. Especially on medical supplies and cell phone components.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:17 PM (QKjMn)
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As a start. Here are some of my thoughts on this:
- No tariff-free goods from China. Start with a blanked 25% tariff, and crank it up to 200% over five or seven years.
- Revoke most-favored nation status.
- Sanction them in all international organizations (UN, WTO, etc. etc.). If those organizations refuse to comply, we need to leave those organizations and encourage our allies to do the same.
- Any third country that helps China end-run sanctions (transhipping, false papers, etc.) gets the same treatment.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (hYcqw)

41 Wuhan Lab is the only thing that makes sense. Even if it escaped by accident, China deliberately let it get out into the world and then lied about it. And have kept lying about it.

/kind of a mild act of war IMHO
Posted by: shibumi, on covid house arrest at May 04, 2020 12:16 PM (ZCiJZ)

Worse. I think the fact that they barred all internal travel for Wuhan residents but let international travel continue for 6 or 8 weeks is telling. It was spread intentionally.

Posted by: Abiss at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (Y8DtA)

42 Primarily Chinese patients cleaned my hospital out of all the free facemasks that were readily available on the wall in every hallway and near every elevator

where is this? you can just say your state

these people were sent

oh and the flights out of Wuhan were purposely SENT

people were put on those flights infected, the CCP knew they were infected

and they were instructed to... do what? we will maybe find out some day

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (j9HX3)

43 I've said for a while that I expect we'll eventually learn that a lot of the lockdown measures were put into place because intel agencies were reporting that the Chinese were freaking out, moving their biowarfare people into Wuhan, etc.

Basically, based on the limited available data the models suggested that it could be bad, and the Chinese were acting like it was bad, so leaders assumed it would be bad.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (SgjGX)

44
Don Shula, Hall of Fame Dolphins coach, dead at 90
Posted by: SMOD at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (3aI0K)

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Fucking COVID.

YOU REICHWINGERS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (nw6Hr)

45

Suck My Slimy Slug Cock You Chinese Bitches!

Posted by: Very Large Slug Creature at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (5LFjM)

46 Good Lord who's the ugly wench on the left?

Posted by: Jewells45 at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (dUJdY)

47 34 And SanFran Nan wants nothing to do with an investigation of China but instead wants to investigate Trump... Impeachment II The sequel...
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Underlying all these investigations into Trump was the rabid need to not investigate the China Trade and its Winners.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (QKjMn)

48
And SanFran Nan wants nothing to do with an investigation of China but instead wants to investigate Trump... Impeachment II The sequel...
Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:19 PM (5bxa0)

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Yeah, I saw that.

Too late to get off the ground before the election, I think.

I figure she expects Trump to win and wants to roll this out for Feb. 2020.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:21 PM (5jaxN)

49 In other words, China let the world burn for almost a month to try to save themselves.

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That's far too charitable. China let the world burn because they wanted us to burn so that they would not be disadvantaged by the lab leak. They may have also looked to take care of their own interests, but let's not pretend their deliberate attack on us was some unfortunate side effect of benevolence to their own people.

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:21 PM (kOpft)

50 Corgis called.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:21 PM (At/8G)

51 Oh, that Wuhan lab with ties to Fauci?

Still waiting for Comey to face the firing squad and now there's Fauci who I need to see done away with.

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:21 PM (jevpf)

52 "... in other words, China let the world burn for almost a month to try to save themselves"

No, they sent their arsonists out to start the fires AND collect all the supplies to fight the fire.

The malice was not just hording the supplies (and luaghing, "I left nothing for the Americans") ... the bigger malice was China locked down Wuhan, but kept airports flying the infected around the world ... China delivered the virus by air AFTER knowing the problem (and probably knowing it came from the lab) ... a deliberate act of War/Terrorism.

Posted by: illiniwek at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (Cus5s)

53 does Martha ever look like she is not taking a dump in her drawers?

Posted by: x at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (nFwvY)

54 I said this two months ago.

Viral outbreak in Wuhan.

They got wet markets in Wuhan.

Whats also in Wuhan?

Why a level 4 Bio-Safety Lab!

Must have been the wet market, must have.

This also speaks to the incompetence and malevolence of our IC.

Apparently, no one's got the China beat.

What exactly are we getting for our 150 billion dollars?

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (NkeJ4)

55 "This is really dangerous language - both in inciting bigotry against Asians and raising the risk of conflict with China."

>>Were we ever NOT in conflict with China?

Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (0jZvB)

56 43 I've said for a while that I expect we'll eventually learn that a lot of the lockdown measures were put into place because intel agencies were reporting that the Chinese were freaking out, moving their biowarfare people into Wuhan, etc.

Basically, based on the limited available data the models suggested that it could be bad, and the Chinese were acting like it was bad, so leaders assumed it would be bad.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (SgjGX)

Their greatest error was assuming competence in communist governance.

Posted by: Someguy at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (Zm+LZ)

57 /kind of a mild act of war IMHO

Seems like some "journalist" the other day said that the US had lost more people to the Woohoofloo than during Vietnam.

Sure, that was before they started un-inflating the numbers but it sure makes that act of war seem less mild.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (T5bCv)

58 I figure she expects Trump to win and wants to roll this out for Feb. 2020.

She should Beware a fully operational Death Trump... When he wins a second term, there will be no holds barred

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:22 PM (5bxa0)

59 Fuck Bill Gates.
Fucker couldn't keep Windows virus free.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (At/8G)

60 Ben Rhodes

@brhodes

This is really dangerous language - both in inciting bigotry against Asians and raising the risk of conflict with China.

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Ben Rhodes calls for China to retaliate by giving nukes to Iran in 5 .. 4 .. 3 ... for the children.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (zI60C)

61 That's far too charitable. China let the world burn because they wanted us to burn so that they would not be disadvantaged by the lab leak. They may have also looked to take care of their own interests, but let's not pretend their deliberate attack on us was some unfortunate side effect of benevolence to their own people.
Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:21 PM (kOpft)
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I am still in the "this was a deliberate planned action" camp, but I do very much think they reacted in such a way as "Obfuscate, deny, and make sure that if we're going down then everyone else goes down with us."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (hYcqw)

62 Ben Rhodes??

Anything would make that wimp fold like a cheap suit.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (jUVms)

63
Basically, based on the limited available data the models suggested that it could be bad, and the Chinese were acting like it was bad, so leaders assumed it would be bad.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (SgjGX)

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I think this, too. I think China was using this as a pretext to crack down on an increasingly restive domestic political situation, and the dum-dums of the West said "hey - look! These dishonest, militaristic authoritarians are cracking down! They would NEVER do THAT unless this virus is really bad, guys!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (5jaxN)

64 What did Bill Gates know and when did "Event 201" Gates know it? I refuse to believe he was in the dark?

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (ONvIw)

65 Also, CCP is blocking access to the lab because they don't want us seeing the other bioweapons they're cooking up for us.

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (kOpft)

66 46 Good Lord who's the ugly wench on the left?
Posted by: Jewells45 at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (dUJdY)

Umm, all of them?

Posted by: blaster at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (ZfRYq)

67 not first
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts

Its a big club.....

Posted by: JT at May 04, 2020 12:24 PM (arJlL)

68 >>What exactly are we getting for our 150 billion dollars?

A whole lot of rice dick.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:24 PM (MaNZl)

69 I still think the sequence went like this:

The Wuhan Flu was around, it was this year's bad strain of the flu as usual. not particularly deadly or especially dangerous.

The lab in Wuhan let something ghastly out by accident that killed huge numbers of people, their Chernobyl-level event.

To cover this and "save face" the Chinese claimed it was Wuhan Flu, and everyone should be careful or they might get it, too.

Opportunists on the left in the west jumped on this and followed outrageously overstated claims by a doctor who keeps grossly overinflating death claims to every single major flu event (SARS, Bird Flu, etc etc) and his demands for shutdowns etc.

Chinese businessmen see a golden opportunity and buy up medical supplies to gouge with.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:24 PM (KZzsI)

70 Fuck Bill Gates.
Fucker couldn't keep Windows virus free.
Posted by: rickb223

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I thought it was illegal to go around on the internet giving medical advice when you're not a doctor.

But I guess that only applies to peasants suggesting you take vitamins and not to billionaires who are allowed to create national policy.

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (jevpf)

71 I mentioned the revised CDC numbers, which are drastically lower than 68k.

It's like the medical professionals i work with are DISAPPOINTED in the lower numbers.

so done with the bullshit.

Posted by: nurse ratched at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (d7Ww2)

72 I find it hard to believe a leftist regime would lie as a matter of policy.

Just kidding

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (Hcsoi)

73 >>@brhodes

>>This is really dangerous language - both in inciting bigotry against Asians and raising the risk of conflict with China.

What a pussy. We tried 8 years of appeasement and surrender. Let's not do that again.

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)

74 Wow. Who is the pinch faced shrew?

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (o2MD2)

75 Ben Rhodes??

Anything would make that wimp fold like a cheap suit.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (jUVms)

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That asshole thinks he is a character in a Tom Clancy novel.

To bad the time of a Mitch Rapp novel is rapidly approaching.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (nw6Hr)

76 Basically, based on the limited available data the models suggested that it could be bad, and the Chinese were acting like it was bad, so leaders assumed it would be bad.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (SgjGX)
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This is my take. An intelligence brief about an escape from a bio lab in China, combined with China's aggression. In the absence of information, assume the worst.

And now we know it is not the worst, there were a lot of bad assumptions around virulence and mortality. Not the other common phenomenon - "government must never be wrong, and shall never admit to being wrong" - is causing it to continue.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (hYcqw)

77 - Sanction them in all international organizations (UN, WTO, etc. etc.). If those organizations refuse to comply, we need to leave those organizations and encourage our allies to do the same.
- Any third country that helps China end-run sanctions (transhipping, false papers, etc.) gets the same treatment.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (hYcqw)

All very important. Canada has been very willing to relabel and export. Thank God for PDT.

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (ONvIw)

78 This is painfully stupid. China is a country. Pompeo is obviously criticizing their govt, not people of Asian descent.

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Come on, fat -- it's clear Americans hate Asians, I mean look at how we view Taiwan and Hong Kong. Oh, wait ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (zI60C)

79 It's not racist to hate the CCP. It not nationalistic or nativist. It's a rational response to an immediate threat.

Posted by: iandeal at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (vgGyZ)

80 Every time I see a Chinese-defending propagandist I reply with "25 Yuan has been deposited in your account". if they're not getting paid for pushing the Chinese government's agenda, they're idiots.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (KZzsI)

81 China just wants to make bats more delicious for everyone.

Posted by: Joe Biden at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (xfb67)

82 73 >>@brhodes

>>This is really dangerous language - both in inciting bigotry against Asians and raising the risk of conflict with China.

What a pussy. We tried 8 years of appeasement and surrender. Let's not do that again.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (ZLI7S)

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It worked in Europe in the late 30s.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (LvTSG)

83 It's the Leftist talking point - any criticism of the Chinese Communist Party is racist and anti-Asian.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (I2/tG)

84 78 This is painfully stupid. China is a country. Pompeo is obviously criticizing their govt, not people of Asian descent.

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Come on, fat -- it's clear Americans hate Asians, I mean look at how we view Taiwan and Hong Kong. Oh, wait ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (zI60C)

Maybe we need to go back to calling Taiwan Real China.

Posted by: Someguy at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (Zm+LZ)

85 I think this, too. I think China was using this as a pretext to crack down on an increasingly restive domestic political situation, and the dum-dums of the West said "hey - look! These dishonest, militaristic authoritarians are cracking down! They would NEVER do THAT unless this virus is really bad, guys!"
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (5jaxN)

I don't think it was a pretext, I think that the Chinese cracked down because in the early days of the outbreak they didn't even know what had gotten out. This wasn't just some show for the west, their leadership was panicked. They may have taken advantage of the situation, but there was still a real situation.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (SgjGX)

86 75 Ben Rhodes??

Hey Ben... Go back to writng bad novels

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (5bxa0)

87 I mentioned the revised CDC numbers, which are drastically lower than 68k

The CDC's official report on confirmed, known deaths is around 11k. That's a lot of people, but its a speck compared to yearly deaths from just plain regular flu.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

88 In her defense, Martha Raddatz was very entertaining on election night.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (sWM8x)

89 79 It's not racist to hate the CCP. It not nationalistic or nativist. It's a rational response to an immediate threat.
Posted by: iandeal at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (vgGyZ)

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*checks notes*

Sorry, this is incorrect. Any attack on an institution that the left likes is racist. Please update your styleguides.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (LvTSG)

90 No look! You buy or leave! Want face mask?! One hundred dollar!

Posted by: China at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (cG+eD)

91 Every country: China is asshoe

Joe Biden: Poor China. You racists.

Try the right side of history, Marbles.

In case you wondered, Marbles is a reference to the movie Hook.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (G4GU9)

92 42 Primarily Chinese patients cleaned my hospital out of all the free facemasks that were readily available on the wall in every hallway and near every elevator

where is this? you can just say your state
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A northeastern state at a hospital with a ton of Chinese research students on visas. I witnessed this go on with my own eyes in early February. Not knowing what was going to go down in a month I laughed to myself at their panic. Their behavior almost compelled me to take a box of masks for myself at that time (first week of February), but even then I (probably correctly) figured I would be the one guy busted for it by all the security cameras (not being Asian).

Posted by: merkkatt at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (gJAok)

93
And the media made sure to lavish praise on China for their magnanimity when they "donated" these medical supplies to European countries in need (making an unreported hefty profit in the process).

Posted by: espant at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (gJAok)
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Not to mention but A LOT of those supplies were in unusable condition, or outright defective. I believe Italy received millions of dollars worth of worthless supplies that they had actually paid for, weren't "donated".
Posted by: Boots at May 04, 2020 12:18 PM (oGBso)

I've got this sneaking suspicion that a lot of Chinee PPE that went to Europe was the stuff that the ChiComs used in Wuhan, then instead of destroying it, they repackaged and sent to Europe.

Sustainable and green recycling of PPE, yo.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (EGyGV)

94 83 It's the Leftist talking point - any criticism of the Chinese Communist Party is racist and anti-Asian.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (I2/tG)

Any criticism of Iran or Somalia is racist and 'islamophobic" (and a sensible position to take).

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (ONvIw)

95 It's the Leftist talking point - any criticism of the Chinese Communist Party is racist and anti-Asian.

This was the USSR's weak point. They were all honkeys so they couldn't play the race card.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:27 PM (KZzsI)

96 Ok, so next step is holding China to account.

How?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:16 PM (4k/Uz)

Imperial Japan at Pearl Harbor ~3000
Al Qaeda on 9/11 ~3000
CCP covid-19 ~37000 and counting.

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (kOpft)

97 >>And now we know it is not the worst, there were a lot of bad assumptions around virulence and mortality. Not the other common phenomenon - "government must never be wrong, and shall never admit to being wrong" - is causing it to continue.

Regardless of the actual Threat...the Perception of a serious threat exposed the Left's fundamental policy failures.

They were ALL caught out and the subsequent reaction was a CYA event that has morphed into an election yeaar Political Operation (sposored by the Deep State).

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (Qn8OB)

98 I mentioned the revised CDC numbers, which are drastically lower than 68k.

It's like the medical professionals i work with are DISAPPOINTED in the lower numbers.

so done with the bullshit.
Posted by: nurse ratched

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A doctor friend of mine told me that "100 million people are going to die."

You're damned right they're disappointed. They WANTED it to happen. Because it's their milieu. Everyone would turn to them and say "Save us!"

Instead, we're saying, "You're a bunch of lying scum. Go make another lip-synching video, you quacks."

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (jevpf)

99
The CDC's official report on confirmed, known deaths is around 11k.

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Their Website still says 65,735 as of right now.

Whats the scoop on 11k.????

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (nw6Hr)

100 @brhodes

>>This is really dangerous language - both in inciting bigotry against Asians and raising the risk of conflict with China.

What a pussy. We tried 8 years of appeasement and surrender. Let's not do that again.
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:25 PM (ZLI7
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It worked in Europe in the late 30s.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (LvTSG)
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It works extremely well with the left here in the US.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (WEBkv)

101 Pompeo is being honest, that's not how the left operates. He's blaming the Chinese because it's their fault.

God only knows what a democrat administration would be telling us.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (jUVms)

102 Is that Martha Raddatz?

Looks like her Correctol took the wrong time to take effect.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (Khk0s)

103 The CDC's official report on confirmed, known deaths is around 11k. That's a lot of people, but its a speck compared to yearly deaths from just plain regular flu.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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And it absurdly inflated to boot.

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (jevpf)

104 Their Website still says 65,735 as of right now.

How many actually died? I mean how many did they just let die?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (5bxa0)

105 I thought it was illegal to go around on the internet giving medical advice when you're not a doctor.

Never stopped big mouth internet experts here...

Posted by: Very Large Slug Creature at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (5LFjM)

106 Instead, we're saying, "You're a bunch of lying scum. Go make another lip-synching video, you quacks."

I basically knew the medical profession was going downhill

but WOW

this has been eye opening

they go Leftist b/c they know they are out of their depth, and mere shadows of the excellent doctors that preceded them

Leftism is the redoubt of the incompetent

see: teaching profession

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (j9HX3)

107 I've got this sneaking suspicion that a lot of Chinee PPE that went to Europe was the stuff that the ChiComs used in Wuhan, then instead of destroying it, they repackaged and sent to Europe.

Almost certainly the case. In China, getting one over on people is kind of viewed as a virtue. Getting rich is the goal, and no moral culture whatsoever to limit or shape that.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (KZzsI)

108 Pompeo is being honest, that's not how the left operates. He's blaming the Chinese because it's their fault.

God only knows what a democrat administration would be telling us.
Posted by: Seems Legit

Look back to Obola's handling oh H1N1.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (At/8G)

109 Instead, we're saying, "You're a bunch of lying scum. Go make another lip-synching video, you quacks."

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (jevpf)

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It's certainly what I'm saying.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (jUVms)

110 God only knows what a democrat administration would be telling us.

nothing because none of this would have happened if Hillary were Prez

see: Ebola

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (j9HX3)

111 All Asians look alike to me, and they all love the Chinese Communist Party!

Posted by: Ben Rhodes! at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (I2/tG)

112 101 Pompeo is being honest, that's not how the left operates. He's blaming the Chinese because it's their fault.

God only knows what a democrat administration would be telling us.

Nothing to see here... Move along

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (5bxa0)

113 "Innocent until proven guilty" does not necessarily apply to nation-states, especially those with totalitarian governments.

Posted by: filbert at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (NiXyF)

114 Maybe we need to go back to calling Taiwan Real China.
Posted by: Someguy

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I once pointed out to a chinese national that the only legitimate government in China was Taiwan, as their government was elected.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (Hcsoi)

115
This wasn't just some show for the west, their leadership was panicked. They may have taken advantage of the situation, but there was still a real situation.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (SgjGX)

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I don't think it was a show for the west, though. I think they have problems in Hong Kong, they have problems in the Western provinces, and now they have a trade war that's affecting mainland ethnic Chinese.

I think it was just an excuse to pop the leash on people. I also don't really think the Chinese government would give a flying fuck if WuFlu wiped out 50 or a 100 million Chinese - not that it would, but I don't think they'd care if it did.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (5jaxN)

116

Look back to Obola's handling oh H1N1.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (At/8G)

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D'OH Good point.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (jUVms)

117 Red China lies about everything. Hell, the country was founded on a lie.

Posted by: tubal at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (bCLt0)

118 /Jumps on his soapbox

Ok folks, one of the founding ideas that created the greatest country ever, the United States, was clearly stated in our Declaration of Independence.

That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

What most have lost, is that with Rights, come both duty and responsibility.

ergo, the Chinese People are not Innocent of what their government does, and it is their Right AND DUTY, to change it.

Stop with this 'it ain't the peoples fault' crap, or nothing will ever change.

Hell, the Soviet Union Fell when its PEOPLE changed it.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (NgKpN)

119 God only knows what a democrat administration would be telling us.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (jUVms)

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Truth be told???

If HRC was President....... this would be called a very bad flu year and would be printed up on page 19 of the Times.

And... that would be the end of it.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (nw6Hr)

120 I'm finding joy in Radditz's obviously miserable face.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (O+I8R)

121 "dangerous language" means Rhodes is calling for censorship, IMO. Expect the Event 201 crowd to move ahead on censorship, which WAS part of the plan, btw.

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (ONvIw)

122 @99

There was a report that of the all of the deaths reported to be from China Bat Flu, roughly only 11k had both a positive RNA test for the virus and an accompanying pneumonia.

Pneumonia is the real mechanism that causes death from a respiratory virus.

So it proves they have been goosing the numbers by roughly 80 pct.

Which is why I was calling this thing a complete scam weeks ago because it was transparent what they were doing was as far from science as you can get.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (NkeJ4)

123 If the Dems wrote a position paper on China, would it be:

China is totes wonderful because money

Or

China is asshoe, but, you know, Orange Man Bad.

Or some mix? Just curious if they protest too much because they want the China Yen or its all just the opposite of whatever Trump says.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (G4GU9)

124 Why don't we all just calm down and let China investigate itself?

Posted by: The straight-shooters at the FBI at May 04, 2020 12:32 PM (jevpf)

125 >>I think it was just an excuse to pop the leash on people. I also don't really think the Chinese government would give a flying fuck if WuFlu wiped out 50 or a 100 million Chinese - not that it would, but I don't think they'd care if it did.

I guarantee every single 'dissident' in Wuhan was declared Dead By Corona within the first 3 weeks.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:32 PM (Qn8OB)

126 Orange County is arresting Republicans for the crime of going to the beach.

AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, Orange County is ... releasing sex criminals, rapists and child molesters from jail out onto the streets! :

https://ktla.com/news/local-news/ o-c-district-attorney-warns-residents- after-release-of-7-high-risk-sex-offenders -during-coronavirus-pandemic/

O.C. District Attorney warns residents after release of 7 'high-risk' sex offenders during coronavirus pandemic

"Orange County District Attorney Todd Spitzer on Tuesday issued a warning to residents after seven registered sex offenders who he said were "high-risk" were recently released from custody early, amid the ongoing coronavirus pandemic.

Spitzer said the convicted men spent "just days" in jail ...

The inmates who were released are:

Luis Joel Ramirez, 27 -- his criminal history includes sexual battery...

Rudy William Grajeda Magdaleno, 39 -- his criminal history includes child molestation, indecent exposure, assault, battery

Kyle Albert Winton, 40 -- his criminal history includes annoying or molesting a child, criminal threats to cause great bodily injury or death...

Jose Adrian Oregel, 46 -- his criminal history includes unlawful sexual intercourse with a minor, oral copulation of a person under the age of 18 and causing great bodily injury.

...etc. etc. etc.

They were released beginning on April 7 as a result of rulings by appointed Court Commissioner Joseph Dane, Spitzer said.

The DA called the men "the most dangerous kind of criminal and the most likely to reoffend."

"These are not the kind of people who should be getting a break," he said."

Outraged yet?

Posted by: zombie at May 04, 2020 12:32 PM (N9G0H)

127 I've worked in healthcare for 21 years. I think I've only met one person (nurse or doctor) who wasn't a leftist.

One.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 04, 2020 12:32 PM (Khk0s)

128
I thought it was illegal to go around on the internet giving medical advice when you're not a doctor.

Never stopped big mouth internet experts here...
Posted by: Very Large Slug Creature at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (5LFjM)

Hey, "slap a hot iron to it" is totes valid medical advice. For any malady.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 04, 2020 12:32 PM (EGyGV)

129 This was the USSR's weak point. They were all honkeys so they couldn't play the race card.

It's why the Soviet Union loved Cuba, Nicaragua, and Vietnam - they could push the USSR propaganda line without looking quite so Slavic.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (I2/tG)

130 Outraged yet?
Posted by: zombie at May 04, 2020 12:32 PM (N9G0H)
+++++++++++++
Entirely, and for some time now.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (hYcqw)

131 since this is a smart military blog, you all will appreciate my smart military comments. So, i have some knowledge of military intel matters. Not only did i stay in a holiday inn last night, but i have several years of military intel experience under my belt. but it doesn't' take either of those things to know this:
China is a threat.
It has always been a threat.
Over 20 years ago two PLA colonels wrote a book called "Unrestricted Warfare." Their thesis? China can't compete militarily with the US. Therefore, the fight must be had in areas other than the battlefield: cyberspace, economics, industrial espionage.
It was all laid out then. They have followed the plan to a T. we have let ourselves get checked in all of those areas through laziness, greed, and apathy. Asshats like Ben Rhoades should fucking know better, and my guess is that he does. But i'm willing to bet he's in bed with the Chicoms like so many others, willing to kowtow to the emperor.
The one silver lining is that many in the govt are taking and have taken the threat from the PRC seriously.

Posted by: secret squirrel at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (xyImL)

132 Also, CCP is blocking access to the lab because they don't want us seeing the other bioweapons they're cooking up for us.
Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (kOpft)

Somebody needs to drop the mother of all thermite bombs on that lab in Wuhan.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (LZcDP)

133 Heres one thing we do not know at all
Were those who died in Wuhan-did they die of the covid strain or was it an actual bio weapon release that burned itself out there?
Mutated to a weaker strain and escaped?

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (Xmcr8)

134 110 God only knows what a democrat administration would be telling us.

nothing because none of this would have happened if Hillary were Prez

see: Ebola
Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (j9HX3)

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"Everyone be careful not to get sick now."

"Yes, ma'am."

"Now, for my next purging of American rights..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (LvTSG)

135
Hey, "slap a hot iron to it" is totes valid medical advice. For any malady.

Windex

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (5bxa0)

136 Gowdy says don't expect prosecutions from Durham investigation?

Hmmm

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (VE8d+)

137 I also don't really think the Chinese government would give a flying fuck if WuFlu wiped out 50 or a 100 million Chinese - not that it would, but I don't think they'd care if it did.

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So..... how are those protesters in Hong Kong holding up these days???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (nw6Hr)

138 The CDC's official report on confirmed, known deaths is around 11k.

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Their Website still says 65,735 as of right now.

Whats the scoop on 11k.????
Posted by: fixerupper

https://www.cdc.gov/ nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/

Close up the space.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (At/8G)

139 but we're not into the idea of going to war with THEM so I guess the "one bad" rule is in effect

__________

It's almost as if the non-punishment appeasement (nee even rewards) for the "one bad" rule will magically turn into the "always bad" rule.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (zI60C)

140 In other words, China let the world burn for almost a month to try to save themselves.

__________________________

Uh no...China let the world burn for almost 2 months to position themselves financially to make a profit on hoarded medical supplies that they bought from companies (mostly in France and Canadian based). Then, they sold those items at a profit to suckers like Spain. Some would argue they altered a large number of these supplies to not work properly. Ask Spain about that as well.

Come on...this is a Communist country we're talking about. They don't give two shits about their citizen's well being. They care about power and holding onto it.

Posted by: Orson at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (711u4)

141 Gowdy says don't expect prosecutions from Durham investigation?

Of course not.

Bastards.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (I2/tG)

142 ergo, the Chinese People are not Innocent of what their government does, and it is their Right AND DUTY, to change it.

Stop with this 'it ain't the peoples fault' crap, or nothing will ever change.

Hell, the Soviet Union Fell when its PEOPLE changed it.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (NgKpN)

A call for revolution from internal parties isn't the same as a call from external parties. We don't drop leaflets haranguing or nagging peasants to overthrow the fuhrer, but promising support instead.

Posted by: Someguy at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (Zm+LZ)

143 Windex
Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (5bxa0)

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I had no idea you were Greek, Donna.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (nw6Hr)

144 I've been told by a young female college student that not parroting CCP propaganda is racist.

Posted by: Emmie at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (ouBhA)

145 Their Website still says 65,735 as of right now.

Whats the scoop on 11k.????

65k is the reported deaths. 11k is the certain, confirmed ones.

then, there's this: https://preview.tinyurl.com/ybrbgasp

"They are putting COVID on a lot of death certificates because people who are going to their hospital with any kind of respiratory distress, respiratory problems, pneumonia, the flu -- the flu-like symptoms lead into the COVID-19," said Joseph Antioco of Schafer Funeral Home. "To me, all you're doing is padding the statistics. You're putting people on that have COVID-19 even if they didn't have it. You're making the death rate for New York City a lot higher than it should be."

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (KZzsI)

146 Hey, "slap a hot iron to it" is totes valid medical advice. For any malady.

Hell Yes! And pour the gunpowder in first!

Posted by: Very Large Slug Creature at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (5LFjM)

147 Gowdy says don't expect prosecutions from Durham investigation?

Good thing about this is that Gowdy has been wrong about everything

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:34 PM (5bxa0)

148 Windex
Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (5bxa0)
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Spray it on one of those 3m masks and, presto! Anti-virus mask that smells good, too!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (WEBkv)

149 @jason_howerton

"It started out as a social distancing enforcement." - NYC Police Commissioner Dermot Shea

I honestly can't believe the things I'm seeing happen in America.

https://tinyurl.com/y9bqonzh

Posted by: Tami at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (cF8AT)

150 Also, CCP is blocking access to the lab because they don't want us seeing the other bioweapons they're cooking up for us.
Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (kOpft)

Somebody needs to drop the mother of all thermite bombs on that lab in Wuhan.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Either nuke them from space, or dirty bomb the place for the next 50,000 years.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (At/8G)

151 >>Hey, "slap a hot iron to it" is totes valid medical advice. For any malady.

Make sure you have a Maxi Pad on hand to cover the wound.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (Qn8OB)

152
I had no idea you were Greek, Donna.

LOL

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (5bxa0)

153 96 Ok, so next step is holding China to account.

How?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:16 PM (4k/Uz)

Imperial Japan at Pearl Harbor ~3000
Al Qaeda on 9/11 ~3000
CCP covid-19 ~37000 and counting.
Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:28 PM (kOpft)

Yeah, but today we'd end up with 'The War on Pandemics'!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (NgKpN)

154 Gowdy is king of the porch pups. Lots of barking, no hunting.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (o2MD2)

155 I also don't really think the Chinese government would give a flying fuck if WuFlu wiped out 50 or a 100 million Chinese - not that it would, but I don't think they'd care if it did.

Nah, totalitarian leaders are always worried about being portrayed as weak and incompetent, since that's a combination that often leads to a firing squad by the guy who overthrows you. 50-100 million dead would put you squarely in the "incompetent" department.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (SgjGX)

156 Oh, noes!!! Michael Moore's latest film is getting negative reviews even from the Marxists at Jacobin!!!

Planet of the Anti-Humanists
https://tinyurl.com/ybm3u4vr

Michael Moore has defended the rights and interests of working people for decades. But his new film, Planet of the Humans, embraces anti-humanist, anti-working class narratives of overpopulation and overconsumption...

...In a swerve toward the Malthusian politics of degrowth and, remarkably, even embracing the fringe ideology of "anti-civilization," Planet of the Humans declares that the problems caused by industrial civilization cannot be solved by industrial civilization.

Progress is a dangerous myth, the film argues; there are too many humans consuming too much stuff, so everyone in developed countries - including the working class - needs to consume less, while the planet as a whole must be depopulated down to a more sustainable number.

For all of Michael Moore's many and generous contributions to progressive and humanist politics over the decades, such arguments are, well, literally anti-progressive and anti-human...

Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (FBrfY)

157 You're putting people on that have COVID-19 even if they didn't have it. You're making the death rate for New York City a lot higher than it should be."
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

Because the Fedgov is reimbursing for Covid treatments and deaths.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:36 PM (At/8G)

158 When you look at it from a business perspective--and that's all some people have done from the start--the Wuhan Virus looks more like a successful marketing campaign to create consumer demand for a new product. Or in this case, a product that was developed originally for Ebola, but went unsold due to no demand. This is like the salesman who dumps dirt on the housewife's carpet only to vacuum it up.

No wonder Bill Clinton wants an entire permanent "army" of federal contact tracers; they're not tracers as much as door-to-door salesmen.

I don't think Tony Fauci would infect the world to sell drugs. For one thing, he was still downplaying the virus long after the President had shut off China travel. But I wouldn't put it past his grant recipients at the Wuhan Bio-Lab and the Chinese Communists. After all, they banned infected Wuhan residents from travelling to Beijing, but not Bologna or Boston. That is either an economic strategy or an act of war. Or some of both.

And given that the Obama/Clinton/Soros Syndicate sold China military secrets, ran a Bribery Empire out of the State Dept., gave Iran money, uranium and permission to build nuclear weapons and used the FBI and CIA to overthrow the presidency, you can't put anything past those criminals either. At a minimum. they are certainly exploiting the situation to feed their Mad Coup Obsession.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (Ndje9)

159 @136

They have to prosecute at least a handful of people.

There is too much know, provable and in your face criminal conduct that at a bare minimum, Comey, McCabe and Strozk need to go down and go down hard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (NkeJ4)

160 We need Robert Mueller to investigate China.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (QKjMn)

161 I honestly can't believe the things I'm seeing happen in America.

----

When this is over, we can't erase the facts:

1.) The government took away Constitutional rights.

2.) They faced no consequences.

The people shrug. "Can we go to the park now?"

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (jevpf)

162 127 I've worked in healthcare for 21 years. I think I've only met one person (nurse or doctor) who wasn't a leftist.

My GOD, where do you work?

My experience would be very opposite, for docs and nurses and techs.

The Suits, they are all Country Club Commie Limo Libs however...

Posted by: Very Large Slug Creature at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (5LFjM)

163 >>. 50-100 million dead would put you squarely in the "incompetent" department.

Not if nobody is there to count the bodies.

You act as though the Chinese are an informed populace.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (Qn8OB)

164 Good thing about this is that Gowdy has been wrong about everything

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:34

But so far he's correct.

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (VE8d+)

165 On one hand you have emotional shouts of "you're trying to kill grandma!" and "you have to listen to experts!"

and on the other hand you have actual hard data, showing actual real death rates being very low and people who have the Wuhan Flu being surprisingly common.

Emotion and appeals to authority (sophistry) vs fact and science.

And the usual suspects are accusing those who shun sophistry of being "against science"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (KZzsI)

166 willowed from last thread for Jane:

388 37 >>Husband's business was just hit with a ransomware virus.

Fire your Network Security Officer.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 11:29 AM (Qn8OB)

What this guy said. Well, that and hoping that your husband's firm had some type of backups configured for your critical systems.

Please note that some firms actually paid the ransom and it ended up being that the information was wiped anyway. So basically:

DON'T PAY IT.
Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 04, 2020 12:29 PM (KXkkH)

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (KXkkH)

167 Hey Has Ben Rhodes stopped fucking little boys yet ?

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (Lrula)

168 8
I saw a post on 4chan back in February alleging Chinese people were
paying other people to shop for them in Australia, seeking people to buy
mass quantities of face masks, sanitizer, bleach, toilet paper, etc and
then send it all to China. Sounded like typical 4chan conspiracy stuff
at the time.

Posted by: brak at May 04, 2020 12:13 PM (cG+eD)
Thats not a conspiracy theory, thats a fact. They were doing it right here. My wife's friends were sending stuff to China (she is Chinese). When the stores were empty, she remarked "Wow, there's that many Chinese people here"?

Posted by: Guy from the Hamburger Train at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (EA1BR)

169 50-100 million dead would put you squarely in the "incompetent" department.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile

Not if it was intended. That would put you into Stalin or Mao territory.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (At/8G)

170 My GOD, where do you work?
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Cleveland

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (fG523)

171 I think there is more to the story, recall that virus researchers were being arrested at airports in the US and Canada around Christmas time.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (Hcsoi)

172 >>Nah, totalitarian leaders are always worried about being portrayed as weak and incompetent, since that's a combination that often leads to a firing squad by the guy who overthrows you. 50-100 million dead would put you squarely in the "incompetent" department.

Yeah, Stalin and Lenin BOTH had this issue...

oh, wait.

They didn't.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (Qn8OB)

173 If Gowdy was competent he wouldn't have hair like that

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (NI4rU)

174 Because the Fedgov is reimbursing for Covid treatments and deaths.

And its politically useful. Every time someone points out the very low death rate, the Karens point to NYC and say THEY'RE DYING BY THE TRUCKLOAD!!!!!1!!1!

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (KZzsI)

175 Because the Fedgov is reimbursing for Covid treatments and deaths.
Posted by: rickb223

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That's the majority of "the AIDS plague" in Africa: Someone sick in the hospital? Check the "AIDS" box, and get free money from the West!

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:39 PM (jevpf)

176 I've worked in healthcare for 21 years. I think I've only met one person (nurse or doctor) who wasn't a leftist.

My primary care physician wasn't. We'd compare concealed carry pieces.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:39 PM (At/8G)

177 So what is the media gonna do about the "Five eyes" group ?agreeing with Pompeo regarding Chynnna? Will they diss Australia, Canada , New Zealand , and Great Britain?

Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:39 PM (5bxa0)

178 The communists have been running the American left for 100 years.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (0hMzd)

179 If Sharon with the Mice is still around, I've had good luck with the Rat Zapper Classic electric trap. They're reusable, powered by 8 AA batteries (no rechargeables), and they leave no mess. Just dump the mouse in a bag, reset the trap and bait if needed and go again. They're on sale right now at Amazon for $30.

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (uM6CE)

180 12 Repudiate any debt owed to China and kick out Chinese college students.
Posted by: mr tmz at May 04, 2020 12:14 PM (m/Gc2)

I hope there is someone in this administration who is working behind the scenes on a coordinated, global repudiation of all debt held by China.

Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (o3AYq)

181 When this is over, we can't erase the facts:

1.) The government took away Constitutional rights.

2.) They faced no consequences.

The people shrug. "Can we go to the park now?"

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (jevpf)

Yep.

Pathetic and dangerous.

They called the bluff and won.

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (VE8d+)

182 Yeah, Stalin and Lenin BOTH had this issue...

oh, wait.

They didn't.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:38 PM (Qn8OB)
++++++++++
They did the killing. Killing tens of millions of people can increase your power.

Allowing tens of millions to die due to something you can't control will probably not increase your power.

Murder is far more conducive than accidental death.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (hYcqw)

183 Ya know, MUCK, that's kind of an amusing comment.

If you weren't clinically insane and so attached to all caps, your posts might be allowed to remain once in a while.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (WEBkv)

184
So..... how are those protesters in Hong Kong holding up these days???
Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (nw6Hr)

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AFAIK, the protests are still going on. And the WuFlu Panic in the rest of the world has not helped the Chinese position. I'm not saying it was a smart move. I'm saying that when you're an authoritarian regime and you're feeling nervous, all you have is the military hammer, and every crisis that comes along starts looking like a nail.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:40 PM (5jaxN)

185 MAN LOVES WORDS THAT BEGIN WITH THE LETTER V. VENTILATORS, VIRUS, VACCINE, VAGINAS,

*shrugs* who doesn't?

Posted by: Very Large Slug Creature at May 04, 2020 12:41 PM (5LFjM)

186 When this is over, we can't erase the facts:

1.) The government took away Constitutional rights.

2.) They faced no consequences.

The people shrug. "Can we go to the park now?"

Posted by: RKae at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (jevpf)

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Remember people. Only 3% of the Colonies actually took physical action to stand up to King George.

Inertia is a powerful force.

BTW.... pointing out the 3% is now considered racist.

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:41 PM (nw6Hr)

187 Painfully stupid. Also cheap shot. Does not work.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2020 12:41 PM (zr5Kq)

188 I also don't really think the Chinese government would give a flying fuck if WuFlu wiped out 50 or a 100 million Chinese - not that it would, but I don't think they'd care if it did.

"China has a population of 600 million; even if half of them are killed, there are still 300 million people left"

Mao also told Prime Minister Nehru of India that it was fine if half the world's population died in a nuclear war, since a nuclear war would result in a socialist world, and population growth would rapidly replace the people killed.

Posted by: Zombie Mao-Tse Tung! at May 04, 2020 12:41 PM (I2/tG)

189 Ben Rhodes has got to be one of the most maddening Obama water-carriers. That bitch was a romance novel writer and all of a sudden because of preezy fo sheezy, he is elevated to national security guru? And we give a rip what this guy says because...?

Plus he has a super punchable face.

Posted by: Eli Cash at May 04, 2020 12:41 PM (67sg6)

190 Act of war.
No, I don't think a frank exchange of views and canned sunshine is in order. I do think the US should consider:
1. Repudiating Chinese debt (either entire or by the extent of estimated COVID-19 damages)2. Seizing PRC/CCP holdings in the US likewise3. Recognizing Taiwanese independence

Posted by: Still Zap Rowsdower old friend you've managed to kill just about everyone else at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (cUpB1)

191 >>Posted by: Tami at May 04, 2020 12:35 PM (cF8AT)

Fashion Police :

That guy's real crime was wearing Socks and Sandals.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (Qn8OB)

192 180 and Visa workers, most green cards too

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (ONvIw)

193 They did the killing. Killing tens of millions of people can increase your power.

Allowing tens of millions to die due to something you can't control will probably not increase your power.

Murder is far more conducive than accidental death.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

Difference between murder and accident is perception.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (At/8G)

194 173 If Gowdy was competent he wouldn't have hair like that
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Trichophobe!

Posted by: James Traficante at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (sWM8x)

195
Difference between murder and accident is perception.
Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (At/8G)
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And reporting.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (WEBkv)

196 177 So what is the media gonna do about the "Five eyes" group ?agreeing with Pompeo regarding Chynnna? Will they diss Australia, Canada , New Zealand , and Great Britain?
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I think Trump plans on building our foreign policy around the 5 eyes plus India. The EU was the biggest pusher for Globalism because they were the ones moving China towards WTO representation. The EU is using China against us as we used China against the Soviet Union.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (QKjMn)

197 153 96 Ok, so next step is holding China to account.

How?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out lots of people give a damn! at May 04, 2020 12:16 PM (4k/Uz)

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That one is pretty easy, and if the information coming out of Trump's collection of economic warriors is any indication, it's already in the works. Essentially, if you make it unappetizing for any company (not just US) to do business with China they pretty much turn back into a third world country with one big difference (a handful of the Little Red Book crew v. BILLIONS of starving citizens). I wonder how that ends.

My understanding is that incentive programs are being designed to bring back industry from China (electronics, textiles, medical equip, ...everything). The thing is, just about every industry in the US is at a point where they are going to have to go along with it to save their profits that have been destroyed over the last few months. THey are ripe for the picking (IOW...cooperation).

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that there are some interesting meetings taking place right now with Apple...because once they vacate China's sweat shops, everyone else will follow...and China is going to have some internal problems after that. Think about the US Union era with lots of guns and such.

Posted by: Orson at May 04, 2020 12:43 PM (711u4)

198 MUMR SUCKS COCK BY CHOICE!!!!

BY CHOICE! BY CHOICE I SAY!

YES, HE SUCKS COCK! BY CHOICE, EVEN!

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 04, 2020 12:43 PM (o2MD2)

199 all you med cine bewrong us...

Posted by: Archer at May 04, 2020 12:43 PM (gmo/4)

200 >>Allowing tens of millions to die due to something you can't control will probably not increase your power.

Like starvation?

No. Sorry. These Leaders don't fear their populace. They fear eachother.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:43 PM (Qn8OB)

201 tariff on all medical supplies from China. Make the tariff just over the price under-cutting of Chinese goods.

e.g. Surgical masks made in the U.S. cost 10 cents each. China sells em for .02 cents each. slap a 9 cent tariff on them. This should not even be needed; Hospitals charge so much for every little thing that there is no damn way that they needed to save 8 cents per surgical mask and they should have been able to understand that keeping U.S. production healthy for such a small cost bump was a good thing but since hospitals have proved they can't grasp the big picture just take away the 'savings' of el cheapo Chinese medical goods. This will recoup some fraction of what the 'rona has cost us; and be less disruptive to supply chains while U.S. companies gear up.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at May 04, 2020 12:43 PM (T9Hmo)

202 I think Trump has been holding China accountable for years now, and will keep the pressure on.

But we can help buy buying local and avoiding cheap Chinese crap whenever possible. Its not always possible, but when you have a choice between Chicom crap and more expensive local stuff, that's easy to do.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (KZzsI)

203 The fact that they run substandard bio labs that continue infecting the world should scare everyone.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (zr5Kq)

204 Remember people. Only 3% of the Colonies actually took physical action to stand up to King George.

Inertia is a powerful force.

BTW.... pointing out the 3% is now considered racist.
Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:41 PM (nw6Hr)

Did you mention the 3%?

/frantically starts to type entries into a database

Posted by: Bob, NSA. at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (NgKpN)

205

Good News Citizens!

The new COVID vaccine works 60 percent of the time, every time!

Vaccination is mandatory for all White Christian Jewish Males of upper middle class and below economic clearance!

Please report to your corner term..., er, vaccination booth immediately!

Failure to comply will result in immediate termination!

Friend Computer thanks you for your cooperation!

Posted by: Friend Computer at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (5LFjM)

206 May the Fourth be with y'all.

Anyone else noticed an uptick in using Asian looking people in ad campaigns?

Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (LIhNq)

207 2. Seizing PRC/CCP holdings in the US likewise3. Recognizing Taiwanese independence
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Please free Smithfield Ham from the Sticky Asian Chickens. Please. Ham is gold.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (QKjMn)

208 107: Just like the masters of the universe...all about personal wealth

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (ONvIw)

209 3% is all we need.

American Patriot

Posted by: Archer at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (gmo/4)

210 203 The fact that they run substandard bio labs that continue infecting the world should scare everyone.
Posted by: runner at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (zr5Kq)

Here, hold my smoke!

Posted by: Kim Jong at his genetic research Lab at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (NgKpN)

211
This wasn't just some show for the west, their leadership was panicked. They may have taken advantage of the situation, but there was still a real situation.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:26 PM (SgjGX)

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I don't think it was a show for the west, though. I think they have problems in Hong Kong, they have problems in the Western provinces, and now they have a trade war that's affecting mainland ethnic Chinese.

I think it was just an excuse to pop the leash on people. I also don't really think the Chinese government would give a flying fuck if WuFlu wiped out 50 or a 100 million Chinese - not that it would, but I don't think they'd care if it did.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:30 PM (5jaxN)

I still think that there's a pretty good case to be made that the ChiCom Cocksuckers deliberately released the virus in Wuhan, in order to give them a public excuse to shut down the Hong Kong protests, which were spreading to other provinces, and were a huge threat to Party rule (the worldwide media was actively speculating that the protests had a pretty good chance of finally bringing them down). I mean, when was the last time you heard diddly squat about HK?

Releasing it in Wuhan was the ChiComs being clever, as it could be claimed that it had nothing to do with HK, so they could clamp down on the whole country, HK included. Picking Wuhan because you were too lazy to drive a couple of hundred miles away from your development lab was just sloppy.

But ChiCom Cocksuckers being commie cocksuckers, they lost control of it, because commie cocksuckers are incompetent at anything more complex than shooting people in the back of the neck. And they began scrambling to reassert control of the virus and also to take advantage of the situation globally.

True or not? Hell if I know. But I find the idea to be entirely plausible.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (EGyGV)

212 To be accurate, Gowdy said there could be Executive Branch prosecutions, but no political accountability because that takes both parties, and Democrats are all in on the Police State.

His tie is purple but he's right about that.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (Ndje9)

213 where is this? you can just say your state

these people were sent

oh and the flights out of Wuhan were purposely SENT

people were put on those flights infected, the CCP knew they were infected

and they were instructed to... do what? we will maybe find out some day

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at May 04, 2020 12:20 PM (j9HX)

_________

Robert Mueller is tanned, rested, and still drooling -- not to mention surprisingly available for the next three years.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (d8zA1)

214 WSJ is reporting that a report will be issued Friday showing unemployment rate at the end of April at 16% and change.

Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (yZAsm)

215 I've got this sneaking suspicion that a lot of Chinese PPE that went
to Europe was the stuff that the ChiComs used in Wuhan, then instead of
destroying it, they repackaged and sent to Europe.
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How many were used and already infected?

Hmmmm.

Posted by: RoyalOil at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (aO8Gd)

216 I'm looking forward to the re-elect PDT ads that basically are a big "I told you so" and mention China.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (WEBkv)

217 Like starvation?

No. Sorry. These Leaders don't fear their populace. They fear eachother.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:43 PM (Qn8OB)

And demonstrated incompetence, like letting 100 million die, is a great way to give your rivals an excuse to whip up support for their move against you.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 12:46 PM (SgjGX)

218 @189

And the even more infuriating things is that Obama converted him and a few others to fedgov employees and incepted into the government so they are still collecting tax payer money.

Obama installed Rhodes at the Holocaust Commission.

Think about that, Ben Rhodes, one of the architects of the Iran Deal, is on the Holocaust Commission.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2020 12:46 PM (NkeJ4)

219 Ben Rhodes should be living in a van by the river, writing bad novels.

Or writing for the Bulwark.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2020 12:46 PM (ptqGC)

220 I think its interesting that the general public is pretty quiet about May the Fourth stuff, but advertisers and establishment are pushing it hard. Its like seeing your dad show up at a party in disco clothes after the disco destruction event at Wrigley. Yeah, you're so cool and with it. Once its establishment its not cool or fun any longer. Its just cheap pandering for the police department or Macy's to use May 4th Star Wars stuff.

And people are pretty much done with Star Wars now anyway.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:46 PM (KZzsI)

221 206 May the Fourth be with y'all.

Anyone else noticed an uptick in using Asian looking people in ad campaigns?
Posted by: Miss Issippi at May 04, 2020 12:44 PM (LIhNq)

Dam, now I wish I had a stormtrooper mask.

Would be perfect to wear to Costco today!

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (NgKpN)

222 216 I'm looking forward to the re-elect PDT ads that basically are a big "I told you so" and mention China.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (WEBkv)

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I just want an ad that includes Trump saying, "I fought China before it was cool."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (LvTSG)

223 127 I've worked in healthcare for 21 years. I think I've only met one person (nurse or doctor) who wasn't a leftist.
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The same could be said of any elite institution tied to academia. Everyone you meet who openly announces his/her political beliefs either through what they say or through stickers/screensavers will almost 100% be a leftist. Conservatives won't admit their beliefs out loud for fear of getting fired or worse. Hence, you would never meet one in those places because they keep themselves carefully hidden.

Posted by: sweetbagg at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (gJAok)

224 Here, hold my smoke!
Posted by: Kim Jong

North Koreans are not as numerous and not as ubiquitous (immigration, labor, tourists) as Chinese around the world.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (zr5Kq)

225

You know, when you drill down, Russia and China are basically the same guy...

Posted by: J. Comey at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (5LFjM)

226 How many were used and already infected?

Quite a few, apparently

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (KZzsI)

227 I wish someone would ask the free trade crowd if it would have been smarter to just pay the extra $40 for an iPhone made in the USA.

Posted by: GrapeDrink at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (rMzGY)

228 At home we're in a Cold Civil War.

Abroad we're in a Cold War with China.

Plan accordingly

Posted by: Ignoramus at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (9TdxA)

229 This Chinese disinformation campaign is really dangerous - both in
inciting bigotry against Americans and raising the risk of conflict with
America.

Posted by: SMOD at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (3aI0K)

230 >>And demonstrated incompetence, like letting 100 million die, is a great way to give your rivals an excuse to whip up support for their move against you.

Sorry. But your assumptions don't apply to the citizens under Totalitarian Regimes.

You require informed populations to bolster your hypothesis and this is precisely NOT the case.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (Qn8OB)

231 Obama installed Rhodes at the Holocaust Commission.

Think about that, Ben Rhodes, one of the architects of the Iran Deal, is on the Holocaust Commission.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2020 12:46 PM (NkeJ4)

Gaze upon my errr.....mighty...err...works.....and Happy Quatro de Cinco, bitchez!

Posted by: The Dog Eater at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (ptqGC)

232 225

You know, when you drill down, Russia and China are basically the same guy...
Posted by: J. Comey at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (5LFjM)

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They have the same plot. They are the same movie.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (LvTSG)

233 I just want an ad that includes Trump saying, "I fought China before it was cool."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (LvTSG)
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I'm quite sure we'll get some variation of that.

And it will be magnificent.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (WEBkv)

234 214 WSJ is reporting that a report will be issued Friday showing unemployment rate at the end of April at 16% and change.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (yZAsm)

That LOW?

I really thought it would be higher by now.

Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (NgKpN)

235 CHY-nuh!

https://tinyurl.com/o8d4sme

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (v0R5T)

236 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up
*sigh*

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (G546f)

237 >>Ben Rhodes should be living in a in the bottom of a river...

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (Qn8OB)

238 234 214 WSJ is reporting that a report will be issued Friday showing unemployment rate at the end of April at 16% and change.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM (yZAsm)

That LOW?

I really thought it would be higher by now.
Posted by: Romeo13 at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (NgKpN)

Well the PPP/SBA efforts might be addressing some of it for a while.

Posted by: Someguy at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (Zm+LZ)

239 Any comment Tom Nichols?

Posted by: WonkishRogue at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (OlAgT)

240 They have the same plot. They are the same movie.

So therefore... A Witch! Trump is a With! Burn Him!

Posted by: J. Comey at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (5LFjM)

241 I know many in healthcare who are not libs, and I'm in NJ.

Posted by: CN at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (ONvIw)

242 Like starvation?

No. Sorry. These Leaders don't fear their populace. They fear eachother.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020

meh, they do have some fear of the non-chicom chinese, that is why they refuse to give them internets and do everything with social credit scores.

they might not have any interest in what they think or want but the know they have to be afraid of them if there are enough of them.

Posted by: not so at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (HALdu)

243 >>> Anyone else noticed an uptick in using Asian looking people in ad campaigns?
Posted by: Miss Issippi

Almost as much as the diverse mixed couples. NTTIAWWT.

Posted by: Turn Two at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (+AVpa)

244 This is increasingly looking like China went to war with the world.

I've seen speculation this morning that the Asian "murder hornets" showing up in the US were deliberate, given that you'd have to ship a full hive over for them to survive. (Random hornets in a shipping container would die on the trip over due to no hive / no queen).

Posted by: Ian S. at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (ZGrMX)

245 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up

Tell him that five thousand died because he made that comment. Its just as valid and based on real, actual data.

We can invent whatever crap we want on whatever side of the issue we desire, but the numbers tell a completely different story.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (KZzsI)

246 239 Any comment Tom Nichols?
Posted by: WonkishRogue at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (OlAgT)

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How could he say anything with his mouth still full of CCP cock?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (LvTSG)

247 We must decouple from China and the Dems.

Time to separate.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (VE8d+)

248
hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up

*sigh*

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (G546f)

Well, progs in my local Pravda are freaking out and saying Kemp wants "black genocide!" in Georgia.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (ptqGC)

249 Ben Rhodes leaving no totalitarian cock unsucked.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (y7DUB)

250 OT-just put some pork ribs on the pellet grill. Slathered in BBQ sauce, 3 to 4 hours at 225, should fall apart when we eat them for lunch.

That is all.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (WEBkv)

251 And the usual suspects are accusing those who shun sophistry of being "against science"
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (KZzsI)

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My retort to those "people".

I am NOT opposed to science. I started life as a biology major. IMHO, science, THE DISCIPLINE, has brought more freedom, quality of life and prosperity to the human condition than any other single factor in the history of mankind. The quest for knowlege and how the universe works is the noblest of endeavors.

What YOU are demanding allegiance to is not Science the Discipline, but Science The Institution. The institution formed by human and like all institutions formed by humans, are subject to their failings. Egos, quest for wealth, public praise, GOVERMENT FUNDING, and lately click bait, social relevence and simple fame are all not part of the scientific method.

Challenging theories and conclusions is a bedrock principle of Science. Its not a triviality to swept away in the name of "policy".

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (nw6Hr)

252 Once this whole incident has run its course, I see China collapsing. With the US and the rest of the developed world pulling cheap production out of China, they won't have the resources to feed themselves, much less make power plays.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at May 04, 2020 12:50 PM (Hcsoi)

253 I think Trump plans on building our foreign policy around the 5 eyes plus India. The EU was the biggest pusher for Globalism because they were the ones moving China towards WTO representation. The EU is using China against us as we used China against the Soviet Union.
Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:42 PM (QKjMn)
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Which, if we cast *WAY* back to the Before Times, is what George W. Bush was trying to do (well, something similar).

His "4x4" strategy to pivot from Europe to the Pacific around a new 4-nation core (United States, Japan, India, Australia+New Zealand) to contain China and Russian influence in the Pacific is not terribly far off the mark.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (hYcqw)

254 Almost as much as the diverse mixed couples

Black woman, white guy. Because they want racial "diversity" but black women blow a fuse if its black guy and white girl.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (KZzsI)

255 240 They have the same plot. They are the same movie.

So therefore... A Witch! Trump is a With! Burn Him!
Posted by: J. Comey at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (5LFjM)

Did you dress him as a witch?

Posted by: Trump's Impeachment Lawyers at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (NgKpN)

256 Windex
Posted by: It's me donna at May 04, 2020 12:33 PM (5bxa0)
.......

Scrubbing Bubbles

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (v0R5T)

257 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up
*sigh*
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That was quick. The virus certainly upped its game.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (fG523)

258 Africanized Bees already killed us all.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (Qn8OB)

259 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up
*sigh*
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (G546f)
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Tell him they died on their feet and not on their knees.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (WEBkv)

260 There is too much know, provable and in your face criminal conduct that at a bare minimum, Comey, McCabe and Strozk need to go down and go down hard.

Posted by: Thomas Bender at May 04, 2020 12:37 PM (NkeJ4)

They would not go down without informing on those powerful people above them, thus nothing will happen, again!

Posted by: Esteemed Dr Farci at May 04, 2020 12:52 PM (jnM20)

261 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up

*sigh*

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (G546f)

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Tell him if they just died, they contracted the COVID during the lockdown.

SO IT ISNT WORKING VERY WELL NOW IS IT!!!!

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:52 PM (nw6Hr)

262
Hence, you would never meet one in those places because they keep themselves carefully hidden.
Posted by: sweetbagg at May 04, 2020 12:47 PM (gJAok)

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Yes, this is true. Also true in ANY business in a heavily Democrat region, period, academic or not.

The Left in America has done a masterful job of cowing their opposition into complete silence without ever using the government fist, by simple virtue of being ruthless and unprincipled in the private sphere.

Few conservative bosses will shitcan you *just* for being a lefty. Few conservative coworkers will pull out the knives for you *just* for being a lefty. This is by no means true in the opposite direction. There are many Leftists who will seek to ruin you for wrongthink.

This is a big reason why evil prevails so often - good people are just not up to the task of rooting them out and eliminating them without compunction, which is a problem the evil are unencumbered by.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:53 PM (5jaxN)

263 Yesterday, while enjoying sipping a couple of cocktails at a local cabana bar, soaking up the sun and enjoying our first taste of FREEDOM!!! since the shutdown, husband wistfully opined that he hopes a year from now we'll realize this whole shit show was one of the greatest hoaxes ever rammed down the American people's throats. Since Obama.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2020 12:53 PM (ptqGC)

264 Imma leave this here:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at May 04, 2020 12:53 PM (Zz0t1)

265 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up
*sigh*
Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (G546f)
.......

Must have all went to the beach.

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2020 12:54 PM (v0R5T)

266 Liberal docs and nurses? Must be some academic ivory tower.

Admittedly I work in some higher risk areas, but all but 1 doc and 1 nurse - both admittedly pretty lib females - carry on the job. All. Men and women.

Belly band variations are most popular for under scrubs, with some thunderwear and ankles thrown in. One doc has one of the holster t-shirts but he's built like an offensive lineman.

Posted by: Some Medical Dude at May 04, 2020 12:54 PM (6K7U0)

267 252 Once this whole incident has run its course, I see China collapsing. With the US and the rest of the developed world pulling cheap production out of China, they won't have the resources to feed themselves, much less make power plays.
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The draw down of foreign investment into China has been going on for some time. There are a lot of places with cheap, skilled and intelligent labor that doesn't want you dead available. Think India, Indonesia, Vietnam, Phillipines.... Like I said, from a risk mitigation point of view, no corporation wants to be held hostage by China. Hell, NIKE only has 24% of its production in China today. No one, not even Manhattan Dons, wants their nuts in China's hands.

Posted by: Puddin Head at May 04, 2020 12:54 PM (QKjMn)

268 Africanized Bees already killed us all.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (Qn8OB)

Hold our beer.

Posted by: Asian Murder Hornets at May 04, 2020 12:55 PM (ptqGC)

269 The fact that they run substandard bio labs that continue infecting the world should scare everyone.
Posted by: runner

With Tony Fauci's funding. But at least the Wuhan Bio-Lab is making Remdesivir with Gilead, Soros, Gates and the Clinton Foundation.

They seem nice.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at May 04, 2020 12:55 PM (Ndje9)

270 I'm finding joy in Radditz's obviously miserable face.
Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 04, 2020 12:31 PM (O+I8R)

I'm hoping that emotionally unstable see you next Tuesday gets wheeled off the air on a gurney in November.

Posted by: Captain Hate at May 04, 2020 12:55 PM (y7DUB)

271 Maybe.... China also use assets to Release Paste into Biden's pantry?

Posted by: KIM YOU KNOW WHO at May 04, 2020 12:55 PM (lMn1U)

272 At the risk of being mistaken for Sponge, I have a question for Mr. Rhodes.

Is the Hong Kong man - a man who, being from Hong Kong, is probably an ethnic Chinese man, I will add - who loudly proclaimed that "China is asshoe!" a racist?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (hYcqw)

273 I mentioned the PLA strategy of Unrestricted Warfare above. I didn't address the PSYOPS/Info Warfare they have conducted on us so effectively. One need look no further than the cesspool of Twitter and FB (both of whom will kowtow to the Chicoms) where Chinese disinformation and propaganda are spread by known and unknown accomplices. Because FB and Twitter are asserting themselves more as "reliable" news sources and commentary by their standards of deeming what is and what is not fake news, they help spread the Chicom messaging. I have found known examples in mainstream media (shocked, i know) of straight up Chicom talking points, themes and messages embedded in their stories being cited by local health officials on their official twitter and department websites . Usually under the banner of "we are racist cause Wuhan virus came from China and we dare make said connection."
I did some deep digging in the King Co, Dept of Health public website to test my thesis (that is the major county in Seattle area). The public health dept, talked about how this virus is stigmatizing Asians and Chinese and that we must be sure not to be racist against China or others while fighting this epidemic. It cited a known race baiter from the WA Post who wrote glowingly of the Chinese response to the virus.
That was one area. I'm sure if you dug deep, you'd find the same shit in Chicago, Miami, LA, SF, Austin...on and on.

Posted by: secret squirrel at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (xyImL)

274 You require informed populations to bolster your hypothesis and this is precisely NOT the case.

Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (Qn8OB)

We don't have free speech here, it is highly unlikely that it exists in Chy-nah

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (jnM20)

275
Posted by: Asian Murder Hornets at May 04, 2020 12:55 PM (ptqGC)

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But...... WHAT IF...... Oriental Murder Hornet stings...... KILL COVID????

NOW WHAT???

Posted by: fixerupper at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (nw6Hr)

276 Did you dress him as a witch?
Posted by: Trump's Impeachment Lawyers at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM

Well....we did do the nose. But not the hair.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (ejd/p)

277 China Lied About Danger of Wuhan Flu So They Could Secretly Purchase Medical Supplies From Around the World and Hoard Them
==================
Buy roh, se'r high!

Posted by: mrp at May 04, 2020 12:57 PM (Pqytn)

278 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up

*sigh*

Posted by: vmom 2020

bing.com/ covid/local/ texas_unitedstates? form=COVD07

Close up the spaces.

Texas 31,548 cases
15,544 recovered
867 dead

My county 777 infected
22 dead

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 12:57 PM (At/8G)

279 I have a question for Mr. Rhodes.

Is the Hong Kong man - a man who, being from Hong Kong, is probably an ethnic Chinese man, I will add - who loudly proclaimed that "China is asshoe!" a racist?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (hYcqw)

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I'd like to hear the answer.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:57 PM (jUVms)

280 I heard the Asian murder hornets killed twelve people in Japan.

Son said he became acquainted with them in Korea. They're not fun.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at May 04, 2020 12:58 PM (ptqGC)

281 156 Oh, noes!!! Michael Moore's latest film is getting negative reviews even from the Marxists at Jacobin!!!
Posted by: BetaCuck4Life

nobody wants to pay a fat guy to tell them they are consuming too much? it tracks, I don't like hearing my bug chasing county judge tell me a quarantine is required to control a virus.

Posted by: x at May 04, 2020 12:58 PM (nFwvY)

282 I missed Gorilla Pundit, but I just have to inject...I find it hilarious Lisa Bloom's mighty euphemism in that pathetic tweet. We all know he is "handsy." Yes, handsy. I'd never equate handsy with what is really alleged here: sticking his fingers inside a woman's privates without her permission. That's handsy to Lisa Bloom, eh? Champion of women? She deserves to be hit by a bus.

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (O+I8R)

283 I think this, too. I think China was using this as a
pretext to crack down on an increasingly restive domestic political
situation, and the dum-dums of the West said "hey - look! These
dishonest, militaristic authoritarians are cracking down! They would
NEVER do THAT unless this virus is really bad, guys!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (5jaxN)

____________

That should have been a cautionary tale, not an instruction manual, for Democrat and squish Republican governors.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (9WPL0)

284 So the best strategy for Slow Joe is to remain locked in his basement with no contact. There's a ringing endorsement.

@NYMag

Joe Biden is at his best when he's neither speaking nor appearing in public. Will his campaign have to abandon its most effective strategy?
@zakcheneyrice
writes

Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (ZLI7S)

285 I have a question for Mr. Rhodes.

Is the Hong Kong man - a man who, being from Hong Kong, is probably an ethnic Chinese man, I will add - who loudly proclaimed that "China is asshoe!" a racist?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:56 PM (hYcqw)

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I'd like to hear the answer.
Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 12:57 PM

Shut up!!!

Posted by: Ben Rhodes at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (ejd/p)

286 ben rhodes's mom is a wet market

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (H5knJ)

287 Is the Hong Kong man - a man who, being from Hong Kong, is probably an ethnic Chinese man, I will add - who loudly proclaimed that "China is asshoe!" a racist?
=====

Of course! He's "self-loathing."

Just like any other group the left claims to own when they go against the left's dogma.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (fG523)

288 JFC check the sad angst-ridden face of Martha Raddatz...she looks like she just had to drink a cup of cyanide during her interview with Sec Pomp.

Posted by: md at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (D+5jX)

289 284 So the best strategy for Slow Joe is to remain locked in his basement with no contact. There's a ringing endorsement.

@NYMag

Joe Biden is at his best when he's neither speaking nor appearing in public. Will his campaign have to abandon its most effective strategy?
@zakcheneyrice
writes
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (ZLI7S)

============

Will this work when needing to meet with foreign leaders in his occupation as POTUS?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (LvTSG)

290 Ben Rhodes: The sage of....what, exactly?

Ben Rhodes was another empty suit working for the emptiest of suits. In fact the head empty suit was the sort who was so insecure, there's no way he'd ever allow anyone he perceived as smart work for him.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (WEBkv)

291 201 tariff on all medical supplies from China. Make the tariff just over the price under-cutting of Chinese goods.

e.g. Surgical masks made in the U.S. cost 10 cents each. China sells em for .02 cents each. slap a 9 cent tariff on them. This should not even be needed;
-------------------------

There was a story linked here, I think, about a mask maker in Texas who has been hanging on by a thread (ha) for years, because the Chinese made crap consistently undercuts him. Every time supply chains get tight, hospitals buy from him, he uptools to meet demand, and then the hospitals dump him once the crisis is over.

There outta be an executive order that medical supplies cannot be sourced abroad, period. This crisis proves it, not to mention the possibility of medical supplies being tainted by hostile foreign commies.

Posted by: Boots at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (oGBso)

292 236 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up
*sigh*

Posted by: vmom 2020 at May 04, 2020 12:49 PM (G546f)

Dayum....Texas must have a fast acting virus. They just opened up.

Posted by: Tami at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (cF8AT)

293 Gov. Reynolds latest news release pointed out that 77% of new wuhan flu cases occurred in the 22 counties that are still under the tightest restrictions. Probably has nothing to do with those 22 counties having the highest population density in the state. I am sure we will be told it is because we aren*t following the rules. So, guess there won*t be any fitness center and restaurants for me in the near future. I guess it goes to show that an (R) gov can be a Karen too.

Posted by: Turn Two at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (+AVpa)

294 @NYMag

Joe Biden is at his best when he's neither speaking nor appearing in public. Will his campaign have to abandon its most effective strategy?
@zakcheneyrice
writes
Posted by: JackStraw at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM

O_o

Do these people actually hear themselves?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (ejd/p)

295 Of course! He's "self-loathing."

Just like any other group the left claims to own when they go against the left's dogma.
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at May 04, 2020 12:59 PM (fG523)
+++++++++
D'oh! Right.

Just like all of those women with "internalized misogyny."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (hYcqw)

296 Is the Hong Kong man - a man who, being from Hong Kong, is probably an ethnic Chinese man, I will add - who loudly proclaimed that "China is asshoe!" a racist?

He's probably dead now though.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at May 04, 2020 01:00 PM (KZzsI)

297 NYMag

Joe Biden is at his best when he's neither speaking nor appearing in public.
=====

Yep.

Posted by: John Gill at May 04, 2020 01:01 PM (fG523)

298 I prefer 7%

Posted by: Sherlock Holmes at May 04, 2020 01:01 PM (w9Wax)

299 nood

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at May 04, 2020 01:02 PM (zUdXR)

300 65
Also, CCP is blocking access to the lab because they don't want us seeing the other bioweapons they're cooking up for us.

Posted by: Methos at May 04, 2020 12:23 PM (kOpft)

__________

Like those recently unleashed Trump murder hornets.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at May 04, 2020 01:02 PM (iXzWX)

301 Of course Republican guvs can Karen. Hell, go look at the comments here from 3 or 4 weeks ago. Plenty of familiar nics lecturing about how us boobs don't understand exponents etc.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at May 04, 2020 01:02 PM (H5knJ)

302 NK missile program > China biohazard lab

Posted by: wth at May 04, 2020 01:03 PM (v0R5T)

303 The Lefty brain trust are idiot savants leading regular idiots.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at May 04, 2020 01:03 PM (2DOZq)

304 https://youtu.be/-UO3Wd5urg0

This is from the Hoover Institute. The doctor in the interview has completed several large tests of the public for antibodies. In a more recent interview, he gives the results (which are that way more people have had this and didn't know it, which makes the death rate even lower.)

The interesting thing about this interview is they ask him about Fauci saying the death rate would be 10 times that of the flu. He says that he didn't have any business saying that. They don't know number of people that have been infected with it. If you don't know that number, you can't know the death rate. And You Tube has a CNBC video about a study in Germany that also found a higher rate of antibodies in the public than expected.

Posted by: notsothoreau at May 04, 2020 01:03 PM (JKNZq)

305 @NYMag

Joe Biden is at his best when he's neither speaking nor appearing in public. Will his campaign have to abandon its most effective strategy?

--

Good Lord have mercy...

I think it's abundantly clear that Joe is not fit. They know it, too. We know it. They know it. What kind of endorsement or strategy is that? Hide the guy in the attic so people can't see or hear him. But vote for Joe because OMB! LOL

Posted by: Lady in Black, sans mask at May 04, 2020 01:04 PM (O+I8R)

306 This crisis proves it, not to mention the possibility of medical supplies being tainted by hostile foreign commies.
Posted by: Boots

This more than anything.

They have already proved it with the tainted tests.

Posted by: rickb223 at May 04, 2020 01:04 PM (At/8G)

307 Watched Trump's townhall yesterday. Nothing too memorable.

Posted by: runner at May 04, 2020 01:04 PM (zr5Kq)

308
Sorry. But your assumptions don't apply to the citizens under Totalitarian Regimes.

You require informed populations to bolster your hypothesis and this is precisely NOT the case.
Posted by: garrett at May 04, 2020 12:48 PM (Qn8OB)

That's utter bullshit.

The Soviets had a massive propaganda organization directed at their own population. The East Germans built a domestic spying apparatus that was unrivaled by any other country. They don't do that because they have no fear of their populations. They did that because they were terrified of discontent in their populations. Totalitarians are often terrified, because even if the masses don't have the ability to overthrow a dictator themselves, then can provide the support needed for rivals to do so.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 01:04 PM (SgjGX)

309 nobody wants to pay a fat guy to tell them they are consuming too much? it tracks, I don't like hearing my bug chasing county judge tell me a quarantine is required to control a virus.
Posted by: x at May 04, 2020 12:58 PM (nFwvY)

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This is similar to Oprah, who owns part of Weight Watchers and advertises for them, telling us how to lose weight. Nope. You're still fat after 3 years of WW.

Posted by: Seems Legit at May 04, 2020 01:04 PM (jUVms)

310 The Chinese Communist Party knows the Chinese Coronavirus did not come from the Wuhan Wet Markets.

The Chinese Communist Party allowed the Wuhan Wet Markets to Re-Open. If the wet markets were the actual or even a suspected source, there is no way the Chinese Communist Party would allow the Wuhan Wet Markets to re-open. Instead they would have bulldozed flat every wet market nation wide.

Posted by: rd at May 04, 2020 01:07 PM (+0uDE)

311 @wsteaks (@ABC News 2020 campaign reporter)

A Dem source tells me they're surprised how good Pres. Trump has been at these town halls...they add that it makes them nervous for the debates...

Posted by: Tami at May 04, 2020 01:07 PM (cF8AT)

312 Which, if we cast *WAY* back to the Before Times, is what George W. Bush was trying to do (well, something similar).

His "4x4" strategy to pivot from Europe to the Pacific around a new 4-nation core (United States, Japan, India, Australia+New Zealand) to contain China and Russian influence in the Pacific is not terribly far off the mark.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at May 04, 2020 12:51 PM (hYcqw)
I know Bush is persona non-grate among many on the right, and it's not entirely undeserved, but the truth is that he was right about a lot of things, such as the need to contain China, pandemic risks, etc. The problem is that he was an example of the problem of second-gen "conservatives": too much loyalty and support for the institutions and an inability to see outside of them.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at May 04, 2020 01:09 PM (SgjGX)

313 >>> 214 WSJ is reporting that a report will be issued Friday showing unemployment rate at the end of April at 16% and change.
Posted by: Robert at May 04, 2020 12:45 PM

It's going to climb. My company in Georgia walked out 3000 employees, a quarter of the workforce on Friday. Wichita, Spirit - the old Boeing plant - laid off 1400. Textron is furloughing a large part of their beech, cessna, hawker employees for who knows how long.

There are cascading effects that will start amplifying the numbers. Part suppliers not making deliveries, to subcontractors not fulfilling components to manufactures with reduced workforce. And to restart a factory is no easy thing because of overhead due to certification and inspection requirements.

I don't know how the broken egg will be put back together when the panic is over.

Posted by: banana Dream at May 04, 2020 01:11 PM (l6b3d)

314 kamikaze hornets are badass. But We can whip any Jap.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at May 04, 2020 01:15 PM (o2MD2)

315 Test

Posted by: The Invisible Hand at May 04, 2020 01:30 PM (3wnAv)

316 Pompeo's statements about China shouldn't be believed any more than the statements about chemical weapons attacks in Syria.

China provided the genome sequence early.
China alerted to asymptomatic transmission in mid January. Dr. Fauci said he didn't believe it, and wanted to see the data.
Taiwan, Japan, South Korea took the Chinese statements seriously, while Fauci was 'monitoring the situation'.

Posted by: MikeN at May 04, 2020 01:58 PM (9zfUE)

317 Poor little Benny Rhodes thinks he's still in charge of manipulating the narrative by "relying on the stupidity of the American public."

Posted by: red speck at May 04, 2020 02:32 PM (gS3OW)

318 The ideal economy of the United States and the world:

Manufacturing:
United States: 100%
Rest of the world: 0%

Within the United States:

Manufacturing: 80%
Government: 20%
(Anyone who even dares to work in anything other than those areas are subject to immediate arrest for wrecking, sabotage, crimes against the State, crimes against the People, crimes against the State and the People, and Treason)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2020 02:46 PM (zqhdn)

319 Well, on a more serious note, we COULD keep more manufacturing (the ONLY jobs people care about) in the country. But that would mean things like drastically reducing needless regulation on state and local levels, drastically reducing taxation on state and local levels, things like Right to Work laws being instituted in all 50 states, having an education system worth a damn, having an education system worth a damn that doesn't have, as a goal, sending everyone off to college because not everyone SHOULD go, making government at all levels more business and entrepreneur friendly, etc etc etc...

In other words, set things up so that people and companies don't WANT to leave and don't feel that they HAVE to leave.

But...that requires hard work, and electing people and governments that will do that, and Americans can't be bothered. It's much easier to find scapegoats and bitch about them.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not happy about things being made in China as much as the next guy. The Wuhan Flu shows us that while other countries can be trusted in trade, China can't be, and therefore we should stop doing business with them to the extent it's possible. And we CAN. But we need to get our house in order so people in our country can and will do lots of business right here at home. Just demanding people open up shop here will not cut it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at May 04, 2020 02:54 PM (zqhdn)

320 The "severity"? I thought this thing was pretty much the flu. How severe is it?

Posted by: Original Roy at May 04, 2020 03:21 PM (hOlnG)

321 And the Dirty Laundry is coming up even more dirty then before

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at May 04, 2020 04:19 PM (FLiOE)

322 hubby just told me a thousand moar ppl died in Texas coz y'all opened up

Whoa. Has anyone told Texas yet?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at May 04, 2020 05:07 PM (0fbbp)

323 One of my hopes is if Trump does have a second term he uses it to both destroy China's communist regime and all those here that have been trying to prop it up. My worry is he'll talk about it, but between his short attention span and the many on the right that also want China's government to succeed, any punishment or investigations will be forgotten about by Feb 1st.

Posted by: Rbastid at May 04, 2020 11:08 PM (YGliX)

324 CBS needs to really think hard about whether they want a real investigative journalist like Herridge on staff, actually hunting down and gathering facts, and reporting news, in the midst of a presidential election year, when the bad orange man must be defeated at all costs. Is David Rhodes really gonna let down his little brother like that?

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