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As Biden Continues Shielding His Records From Public Inspection, He Sends His Operatives and Minions To Grope Their Way Through Them

Why does a man who knows he's innocent have to send lackeys to check, and perhaps alter, the evidentiary record?

Reade has demanded he release his Senate records for review from the time. The papers, 1875 boxes full, are being held by the University of Delaware “until two years after he retires from public life.” But the University has refused to reveal the nature of the agreement with Biden and Biden has done nothing to comply with requests to release the papers or clear up the issue, prompting people to question why.

Now there's more that doesn’t look good for Biden. Turns out not only is he refusing requests to release the papers, but the campaign is clearly curious about what’s in the records and dispatched operatives on at least one occasion to look through the records, according to the Business Insider.


Andrea Boyle Tippett, a spokeswoman for the University of Delaware, confirmed to Insider that individuals from the campaign have accessed the collection since Biden announced his presidential campaign in the spring of 2019. She added that the University of Delaware's library closed in mid-March due to the coronavirus, and that no one from the Biden campaign has gone to the library since its closure.

Since mid-March of 2020 no one's been inside -- but they were pawing their way through the records before then.

And while Tara Reade didn't offer her testimony to Katie Halper until March 25, Tara Reade had been trying to get the media and #MeToo organizations interested in the story well before then. She went to Halper only after everyone else told her "Go away, we have an election to rig."

So yeah -- Biden's people knew damn well that Tara Reade was ready to tell her story well before mid-March.

Whoops: Chi-Town Jerry reminds me that Tara Reade had been complaining of Joe Biden's sexual harassment (though not sexual assault, yet) since spring 2019, after Joe Biden denied/ignored complaints from seven women who came forward to complain of inappropriate touching.

Posted by: Ace at 06:07 PM




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1 St

Posted by: CliffClavin at April 30, 2020 06:07 PM (dyCMp)

2 What if he was Romeo in black jeans?

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:08 PM (ifmtJ)

3 Thats what criminals do

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 06:08 PM (ZCEU2)

4 Dear Joe,

I found it!

Posted by: Sandy Berger at April 30, 2020 06:09 PM (Ndje9)

5 Reade needs to get Broaddrick on her side. The media is deathly afraid of Juanita

Posted by: Jmel at April 30, 2020 06:09 PM (OeWgo)

6 What if he was Heathcliff? it's no myth

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:09 PM (ifmtJ)

7 Biden just needs to leak that Tara Reade has information leading to the conviction of Hilary Clinton.

Bam.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:10 PM (ifmtJ)

8
What time will he be on Mika and Joe tomorrow?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:11 PM (G51Gf)

9 Is it common for Senators to send their papers to a library or other institution? What kind of papers would those be? Lunch orders? Daily diaries?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 06:11 PM (lwiT4)

10 It's nice to see that the reality of Obama's "most transparent administration in history" extends to his VP, too. It's consistent if nothing else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 06:11 PM (hYcqw)

11 You've heard of the Curly Shuffle, but this is the Guilty Shuffle. How do these people accuse others of sexism without instantly bursting in to flame?

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2020 06:12 PM (T6t7i)

12 Gee, think his appearance on Morning' Joe tomorrow is MSNBC's way of making up for Chris Hayes going off the reservation????

Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2020 06:12 PM (bDqIh)

13 6 What if he was Heathcliff? it's no myth
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:09 PM (ifmtJ)

OK, literally had no idea until I just looked up the song (I knew it but didn't know the title) that the guy who sang it is Chris & Sean Penn's brother.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2020 06:12 PM (Ez6QX)

14 My WAG? The records have already been leaked to the press and they are damning and thus will never be seen.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (GbPPJ)

15 A. The incoherent cadaver is only available for four to five minute sessions of coherence after an overnight of whatever the drug regimen is. Not kidding. So he wouldn't even know what he was looking for in a library or a Chick-Fil-A.

B. Who is the incoherent cadaver's Cheryl Mills? Whoever it is needs to be tailed by OAN or Veritas 24/7.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (XrCyE)

16 Zombie Sandy Berger nods.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (9KTP0)

17 I see what you did there, Mark Andrews

Posted by: 2009Refugee - Thought Indifferent at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (8AONa)

18 So they're raping Ms Reade a 2nd time?

#Sad

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (jwWKU)

19 Wiping it with Hillary's cloth.
Remember that one dude that flat out stole govt docs in his pant legs?
Remember when obama's birth certificate got put under seal?
This stuff is par for the course in Dem scandals.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:14 PM (r+sAi)

20
Dear Joe,

I found it!
Posted by: Sandy Berger


Stuffed in your socks?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 30, 2020 06:14 PM (aKsyK)

21 Alternate headline:

As Biden Continues Shielding His Records From Public Inspection, He Sends His Operatives and Minions To Grope Finger Their Way Through Them

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (RGTnM)

22 My WAG? The records have already been leaked to the press and they are damning and thus will never be seen.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (GbPPJ)
+++++++++++
If they were, it was consultative. Along the lines of "this is what we know and we need to be sure you all know what to deny and what to spin. Ready? Go team!"

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (hYcqw)

23 University of Delaware's library closed in mid-March due to the coronavirus, and that no one from the Biden campaign has gone to the library since its closure.

she lies

Posted by: x at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (nFwvY)

24 The University of Delaware is a major powerhouse in academic circles. It's known for its world-leading programs in .... in.....

Okay, technically corruption, graft, and utter moral debasement aren't majors, but they should be.

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (T6t7i)

25 The Republicans should get a judge to prevent biden and his minions from altering the records

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (85Gof)

26 Too bad Sandy Burglar's dead. He could have just shoved the records down his pants and walked out of the library. He was good at stealing papers from libraries.

Posted by: RickZ at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (Y8PSl)

27 I hope the fire prevention system is working at that place.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (85Gof)

28 UD Blue Hens

hens

blue hens

blue fucking hens

blue fucking dickless hens

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (JFO2v)

29 It is my personal policy to immediately destroy anything that could be used agin' me.

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (MVjcR)

30 "So yeah -- Biden's people knew damn well that Tara Reade was ready to tell her story well before mid-March."

Gonna say she reached out to his campaign long before she went public with the charges.


Hate to say this, but she may be looking for a big payday and this thing may explode into a grifter trying to cash in on biden's success, or she would go public.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (JUOKG)

31
How is it that a Senator can even do this -- seal up records related to his office? Aren't those public records?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (G51Gf)

32 The U of D is not the only place where these Tara Reade's complaint would be held. It would have to be somewhere in the Senate records as well.

Someone mentioned earlier that George Mitchell was Majority Leader back then; it could be in his records.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (iuFgi)

33 Daft old PervyUncle Joe cannot remember who he settled out of court his for 'inappropriate digital penetration'.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (1g7ch)

34 If I was Biden's physician I would give him a stem cell blood transfusion.

Creepy thought: what if after a brief absence from public life he reemerges completely coherent and smarter than he was previously? Would that help or hurt his campaign?

Posted by: Max Power at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (QCc6B)

35 Why would the Biden campaign need to send operatives? Surely the U of Del would be happy to "edit" them for him.

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (ZbwAu)

36 Tara Reade first brought these claims in Spring 2019!!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (CjFDo)

37 26 Too bad Sandy Burglar's dead. He could have just shoved the records down his pants and walked out of the library. He was good at stealing papers from libraries.
Posted by: RickZ at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (Y8PSl)

where is he buried I need to shit

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (JFO2v)

38 There needs to be a FOIA on these immediately. The guy is running for frickin prez, I think it is in the public interest.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (r+sAi)

39 Not sure I blame Biden's team from going over the records to see what's in there at that point. It might have seemed innocuous in 1993 or even ridiculous - but in this super charged #metoo atmosphere and with the Dems spewing shot about Trump and his "women" - they'd need to go over this now and have real answers, and they know it.

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (32YRo)

40 When did institutions of higher education become safety deposit boxes for criminal rapists, thieves, traitors and communists?

Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (95j/9)

41 BTW, doesn't Chris Dodd have the excuse that everyone has asked a waitress for a sandwich?

Posted by: Eeyore at April 30, 2020 06:18 PM (ZbwAu)

42 Or perhaps his lackeys were just confirming that the records had already been purged before the papers were submitted to the university.

Posted by: civil truth at April 30, 2020 06:18 PM (ymrPC)

43 >> What if he was Heathcliff? it's no myth

Like that song! And I think he is still married to Aimee Mann. . .

Yep!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2020 06:18 PM (bDqIh)

44 If Biden said, "I have no recollection of anyone or anything I did, said, or thought prior to nap time this afternoon," I think it'd be a plausible explanation.

And for the Democrats and the MFM (BIRM), that'd be the perfect choice for the presidency.

Nevertheless, I hope Biden's history of international corruption, domestic corruption, and sexual assaultery becomes the most public of records. Let his legacy be etched in stone.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at April 30, 2020 06:18 PM (HhXSr)

45 Destroying olde records, having surrogates attack victims, claiming it's been debunked and responded to already, this Biden Team of Predators is giving me wood, without medicinal aide.

Posted by: William Jefferson Clinton at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (jwWKU)

46 When did institutions of higher education become safety deposit boxes for criminal rapists, thieves, traitors and communists?
Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (95j/9)

Probably about the same time they become progaganda and re education centers for the left

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (85Gof)

47 It might have seemed innocuous in 1993 or even ridiculous - but in this
super charged #metoo atmosphere and with the Dems spewing shot about
Trump and his "women" - they'd need to go over this now and have real
answers, and they know it.


Brothers who shot their parents throw themselves on the mercy of the court because they're orphans.

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (T6t7i)

48 People have guns in Lansing protest

That's the left.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (Eicbe)

49 I don't understand. Why would the complaint against a US Senator be stored in his recods. Wouldn't the original complaint be stored by the Sergeant at Arms for the Senate?

Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (+0uDE)

50 When did institutions of higher education become safety deposit boxes for criminal rapists, thieves, traitors and communists?

This is an odd thing to say, but blame Millard Fillmore. No, really. First presidential library.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (XrCyE)

51 B. Who is the incoherent cadaver's Cheryl Mills?

_________


Dr. Jill, the wife?

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (12Yiz)

52 When did institutions of higher education become safety deposit boxes for criminal rapists, thieves, traitors and communists?

Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (95j/9)


Somewhere around 1945, reinforced in '67-'68.

Posted by: RickZ at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (Y8PSl)

53
Hate to say this, but she may be looking for a big payday and this thing may explode into a grifter trying to cash in on biden's success, or she would go public.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 06:16 PM (JUOKG)

I'm with you. She's scum.
But good for the goose is good for the gander, as it were.
Alinsky rules.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (jCbpN)

54 So complaints about a Senator filed by a staffer all go with the Senator when he leaves the Senate? There is not a general Senatorial repository?

How convenient.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (2DOZq)

55 Let me try that again:
---
People have guns in Lansing protest

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (Eicbe)

56 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (Zz0t1)

57 Headline in red. Could we see flaming skull(s) here or with Gen Flynn soon?

Posted by: Dingbat at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (KylN9)

58 50 When did institutions of higher education become safety deposit boxes for criminal rapists, thieves, traitors and communists?


hmm I guess I never considered the possibility that UD was an institution of higher education!

marginal but I'll allow it

decent math department

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (j9HX3)

59 So a few ideas for gals:

1. If you get felt up by boss yell rape

2. If that does not work fight back

3. Put your panties in a bag and fedex them to your mom with instruction to mom to keep sealed

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (JFO2v)

60 There is a video of that rat bastard anti american lesbo soccer player rapino urging biden to take advantage of the coronavirus tragedy to change America and slow joe nods and agrees.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (85Gof)

61
Theory at Powerline:

>>the Dems nominate Biden, the chatter about Reade grows, and the Dems go to Biden and tell him that to remain consistent on this issue they need to replace him. Confronted with a united front of party leaders, Biden resigns on grounds of health. So Reade ultimately helps the Democrats field a viable candidate -- someone who is neither senile nor an open socialist.


Cuomo?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (G51Gf)

62 Says "Bring that shit to me man!!!!"

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (Zz0t1)

63 ace is feeling better for sure! red ink! italicans!

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (j9HX3)

64 More like stuffing in underwear and socks.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (+Dp5p)

65 People have guns in Lansing protest <- "Terrorism" to the left.

They have no idea how to maintain this republic.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (Eicbe)

66 @CBSNews

President Trump says he would "certainly consider" bringing Michael Flynn, his convicted former national security adviser, back into his administration.


Convicted?!

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (cF8AT)

67 18
So they're raping Ms Reade a 2nd time?



#Sad

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (jwWKU)

__________


It's a high-tech raping.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (12Yiz)

68 Tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Sandy Burglar at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (Y7v+0)

69
Wasn't there a Columbo episode when Columbo casually told the Suspect he had found the murder weapon, and then the next scene is the Suspect making sure the murder weapon was still where s/he left it, only to be surprised by a lurking Lt. Columbo skulking in the shadows?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (vxvj6)

70 Not sure I quiteget howthe complaint would only be in Creepy Uncle Joe's records only either.

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (ZCEU2)

71 Brothers who shot their parents throw themselves on the mercy of the court because they're orphans.

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (T6t7i)

Well, I meant "shit" because my spelling is the worst you'll get on any thread on this blog...but yes, shooting your parents is a mitigating orphan defense in the making!

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (32YRo)

72 Nevergiveup: "The Republicans should get a judge to prevent biden and his minions from altering the records"

Overruled!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge Roulette at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (HhXSr)

73 Weasel Zippers




Joe Biden Nods Along As Lib Soccer Star Calls Coronavirus An Incredible Gift

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (85Gof)

74 >>>36 Tara Reade first brought these claims in Spring 2019!!


thanks, I added that. I'd forgotten.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (PbpT7)

75 "25 The Republicans should get a judge to prevent biden and his minions from altering the records

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (85Gof) "



LOL.


They would only do that if they actually wanted to oppose him instead of merely asserting a claim on part of the take.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (cqteU)

76 If this was a plan timed by the DNC to get rid of Biden the MSM wouldn't be covering this story with a pillow.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (2DOZq)

77 Rotten bottle ginger finger bust thing:

https://youtu.be/m68Pw-KZvvo

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (Zz0t1)

78 So Reade ultimately helps the Democrats field a viable candidate -- someone who is neither senile nor an open socialist.

Cuomo?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (G51Gf)


Good thing you didn't slander Fredo the Elder by calling him competent.

Posted by: RickZ at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (Y8PSl)

79 Our hopelessly corrupt media is really covering themselves with glory these days. They are worse than useless, they are propagandists.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (ZLI7S)

80 Tales from the crypt!

Posted by: Max Power at April 30, 2020 06:23 PM (QCc6B)

81 When did institutions of higher education become safety deposit boxes for criminal rapists, thieves, traitors and communists?
Posted by: Fritz at April 30, 2020 06:17 PM (95j/9)


you mean their faculty?

Posted by: OneEyedJack at April 30, 2020 06:23 PM (z79tQ)

82 My guess is that anything relating to Reade was long ago burn bagged.

I'll bet dollars to donuts his staff is trying to scrub his corruption both home and abroad.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2020 06:23 PM (Wo6t6)

83 Tanned, rested and ready.

Posted by: Sandy Burglar at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (Y7v+0)


Pasty white, resting and dead.

Posted by: RickZ at April 30, 2020 06:23 PM (Y8PSl)

84 Convicted?!<<<<<
He has asked that his guilty plea be rescinded, which came after long negotiations on sentencing which turned into time enough to find the framing.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:24 PM (r+sAi)

85 How many documents have been removed Sandy Bergler style, ya figure?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:24 PM (Zz0t1)

86 I still think they can't be seriously be considering Governor Killmo at this time.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:24 PM (Eicbe)

87 76
If this was a plan timed by the DNC to get rid of Biden the MSM wouldn't be covering this story with a pillow.


Timing, my friend, timing. The situation is not yet ripe.

Posted by: pep at April 30, 2020 06:24 PM (T6t7i)

88 his convicted former national security adviser

Ummm, CBS, I'd get to work on the retraction to that one because A) it never happened and B) it will never happen.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 30, 2020 06:24 PM (XrCyE)

89 Tales from the crypt!
Posted by: Max Power at April 30, 2020 06:23 PM (QCc6B)
---
You leave Nancy out of this!

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:24 PM (Eicbe)

90 President Trump says he would "certainly consider" bringing Michael Flynn, his convicted former national security adviser, back into his administration.

Convicted?!

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (cF8AT)

He is...he plead and that's conviction - its been booked into the court records - he just awaits sentencing. That is why I think Trump waiting for vacation of conviction and return to DOJ - to expunge the record.

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (32YRo)

91 69
Wasn't there a Columbo episode when Columbo casually told the Suspect he had found the murder weapon, and then the next scene is the Suspect making sure the murder weapon was still where s/he left it, only to be surprised by a lurking Lt. Columbo skulking in the shadows?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (vxvj6)


In a flowerbed in the greenhouse.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (+Dp5p)

92 Let me try that again:
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People have guns in Lansing protest

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (Eicbe)

There is another protest or there's one going on everyday now? Are the people protesting-in addition to lockdown- about their guns rights. Do you have a link?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (bW1Yb)

93 I'm so looking forward to the opening of the Joe Biden presidential library/All Girls Grade School

Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (vVYM8)

94
Yeah, Flynn wasn't convicted, he pled. Big diff.
Now, the box score on a dink bloop over the second baseman's head still says, "1B" but in the real world, there's a difference.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (jCbpN)

95 Sandy Burglar of Socks to the rescue?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (u3JRx)

96 >>>>Wasn't there a Columbo episode when Columbo casually told the Suspect he had found the murder weapon, and then the next scene is the Suspect making sure the murder weapon was still where s/he left it, only to be surprised by a lurking Lt. Columbo skulking in the shadows?

that was like eight of them. One was a first season episode with Robert Culp where he told Culp that the victim (whom he had transported in the trunk of his car) was missing a contact lens. Culp then checked the trumk, and columbo caught him.

Columbo had also planted a contact lens. It wasn't to be used as evidence, except as proof that Culp removed the lens from the trunk.

But he did that a bunch of times.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (PbpT7)

97

Joe Biden Nods Along As Lib Soccer Star Calls Coronavirus An Incredible Gift
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:22 PM (85Gof)


Was it a woman? He was imagining grabbing her like a bowling ball.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (Zz0t1)

98 Headline in red. Could we see flaming skull(s) here or with Gen Flynn soon?
Posted by: Dingbat at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (KylN9)


Only if multiple perps 'died resisting arrest' or 'shot making furtive movement'.

Maybe three skulls if 'during raid flashbomb somehow landed in subjects whitey tightens and blew testicles off'.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (1g7ch)

99
In a flowerbed in the greenhouse.
Posted by: Braenyard


The Ray Miland episode?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (vxvj6)

100 I think we should start talking up the congressional harassment slush fund again

Posted by: kactus at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (EBZra)

101 There is another protest or there's one going on everyday now? Are the people protesting-in addition to lockdown- about their guns rights. Do you have a link?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2020 06:25 PM (bW1Yb)
---
https://twitter.com/TeaBoots/status/1255920516558458881

But the point was that guns at a protest = "Terrorism"

Anything to shut down dissent.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (Eicbe)

102 25
The Republicans should get a judge to prevent biden and his minions from altering the records

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 30, 2020 06:15 PM (85Gof)

__________


In a two-tiered justice system, there's no disincentive for the ruling tier to committing crimes, covering him up, and ignoring judges orders.

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (12Yiz)

103 We do not even know where B Hussein went to school. We have no idea how he got to law school. His book said he was the village idiot from Kenya.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (JFO2v)

104 Gee, think his appearance on Morning' Joe tomorrow is MSNBC's way of making up for Chris Hayes going off the reservation????
Posted by: Lizzy at April 30, 2020 06:12 PM (bDqIh)


The prospect of three retards like Deliverance Joe, Low IQ Meeka and Sundown trying to sound coherent piques my interest.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (y7DUB)

105 >>Yeah, Flynn wasn't convicted, he pled. Big diff.

No! it is the same - the court records the plea of guilty and conviction is the result.

This is what anyone must understand if they plead guilty...they are convicted.

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (32YRo)

106 The talking points are out. Accidental looks at lib sites all say, no BFD, the police do this all the time.

Posted by: Dingbat at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (KylN9)

107 But the point was that guns at a protest = "Terrorism"

Anything to shut down dissent.
Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (Eicbe)

O.k. I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at as far as its meaning. Thanks.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (bW1Yb)

108 By now, all of Joe's records containing the words Tara or Reade have been disposed of in a manner that added to Global Warming. Or were fodder for BleachBit.

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (AMIL/)

109
This is what anyone must understand if they plead guilty...they are convicted.
Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (32YRo)

Obviously you don't follow baseball.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (jCbpN)

110 103 We do not even know where B Hussein went to school. We have no idea how he got to law school. His book said he was the village idiot from Kenya.
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM (JFO2v)

THIS

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (Ez6QX)

111 No! it is the same - the court records the plea of guilty and conviction is the result.

He withdrew the plea.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (XrCyE)

112 Who was that career criminal Sandy SomethingBurger? that stuffed documents into his socks and underwear to protect the Clinton Rape & Terror Institute.....


Good times, good times.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (Z+IKu)

113
Now there is no doubt Judge Emmitt Swill is on the frame-up of Flynn.

Judge Swillivan told Powell to STFU, today.
The judge is allowing the prosecution to re-present their documents. In other words, this time all the docs will be there, and the prosecution will say see judge?, the defense had all the docs and evidence we had.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (vxvj6)

114 Flaming Blago skulls when the putsch conspirators are shot like the vermin they are.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (u3JRx)

115 O.k. I wasn't quite sure what you were getting at as far as its meaning. Thanks.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (bW1Yb)
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That's because I tried twice to use the raw less-than sign and it got swallowed up in the html filter.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (Eicbe)

116 If I'd pulled Aimee Mann, I'd stick with her too.

Rowr.

Loved her duet on the Rush song 'Time Stands Still'

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:29 PM (ifmtJ)

117 Yeah, Flynn wasn't convicted, he pled. Big diff.

No! it is the same - the court records the plea of guilty and conviction is the result.

This is what anyone must understand if they plead guilty...they are convicted.
Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (32YRo)

And there is a formal reading of the plea where the judge makes sure the defendant knows what he's pleading to and the consequences of doing so.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 30, 2020 06:29 PM (2DOZq)

118 He withdrew the plea.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (XrCyE)

I believe he was asked if he wished to and he said no...

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:29 PM (32YRo)

119 So he's gonna go on Formika and joe's show and say"We found no evidence of any such complaint or She was a disgruntled ex-employee who we fired because she was a bad worker or some such ."?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2020 06:29 PM (5bxa0)

120 76 Totally agree, the DNC and MSM are hive minded.

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 06:29 PM (ZCEU2)

121 I kind of wish to go back to the days when the libs were whining that terrorist Sulemani was killed and we were calculating bloombergs cost per vote.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (r+sAi)

122 This is what anyone must understand if they plead guilty...they are convicted.

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:27 PM (32YRo)


And usually with a guilty plea you forego the right to appeal the conviction. Except in extraordinary circumstances, as we have with Flynn's Covington lawyers basically working for the prosecution.

Posted by: RickZ at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (Y8PSl)

123 She brought it up in '93 when he did it and she was fired.

She brought it up in Spring '19 and was ignored.

She's bringing it up again NOW and is being discredited.

This country is really fucked up.......There's no WAY we should be losing the battle to the leftist retards like this.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (Zz0t1)

124 92 Let me try that again:
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People have guns in Lansing protest

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:20 PM (Eicbe)


They made a parade for the governor of SD.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (+Dp5p)

125 Oh, what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to stuff damning shit in our underwear.

Posted by: Sandy Berger at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (sWM8x)

126 Pedophiles, rapists, sexism, sexual assault.


I'm sensing a pattern amongst the Dems.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (G4GU9)

127 4 Dear Joe,

I found it!

Posted by: Sandy Berger at April 30, 2020 06:09
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Hah. Teh Horde never disappoints. I knew someone would go there.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (Dhht7)

128 49 I don't understand. Why would the complaint against a US Senator be stored in his recods. Wouldn't the original complaint be stored by the Sergeant at Arms for the Senate?
Posted by: rd at April 30, 2020 06:19 PM (+0uDE)

I don't get it either.

So she was molested by her boss, Senator Biden... so then she complained about it to ... Biden? His chief of staff? Like what did she expect the outcome to be? That Biden would ... apologize? Resign? I'm really not following here.

And why would we think whoever she told wrote it down and made a record of it?

If, alternatively, she told someone outside of Biden's office, well why would this information be in Biden's personal records? It should be in some official record somewhere. Right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (ZkXld)

129
OK, Bos. Get it. You're a troll, or an ignorant sycophant.
Which do you plead to?

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:31 PM (jCbpN)

130

that was like eight of them. One was a first season episode with Robert Culp where he told Culp that the victim (whom he had transported in the trunk of his car) was missing a contact lens. Culp then checked the trumk, and columbo caught him.

Columbo had also planted a contact lens. It wasn't to be used as evidence, except as proof that Culp removed the lens from the trunk.

But he did that a bunch of times.

Posted by: ace



Remember the episode when Columbo brought in the Twin Brother as a witness?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:31 PM (vxvj6)

131 We do not even know where B Hussein went to school.
We have no idea how he got to law school. His book said he was the
village idiot from Kenya.


Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:26 PM

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And not a single person from his graduating class from Harvard Law School remembers him ever being in class.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 06:31 PM (JUOKG)

132 Zombie Sandy Berger nods.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 30, 2020 06:13 PM (9KTP0)

That's him...he is dead? Who knew....

Thanks Jay!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2020 06:31 PM (Z+IKu)

133 This tired old man who wants to be elected king. It was the end of the innocence for Joey Bidet

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 06:32 PM (u3JRx)

134 Actually, that's 'Time Stand Still', a request, not an observation....

Damn. No more Neil Peart. No more Rush songs.

All we have is what was made.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:32 PM (ifmtJ)

135 And there is a formal reading of the plea where the judge makes sure the defendant knows what he's pleading to and the consequences of doing so.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 30, 2020 06:29 PM (2DOZq)

He had that and he refused to withdraw his plea...this is why this case has been so hard for Powell - its not that easy to nullify a conviction unless hard evidence is produced that it was coerced - she's been up against it from the start...Flynn and his prior attorney's made it almost impossible...

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:32 PM (32YRo)

136 There is nothing-repeat, nothing-damaging to Joe Biden in the archives.

Posted by: Sandy Burglar at April 30, 2020 06:32 PM (QzkSJ)

137 Just got back from Buffalo Wild Wings. Miss Linda wanted some boneless chicken, BOGO, and I couldn't avoid buying the expensive fast food. ($12 for something that ought to cost $4.50? And I have to go pick it up? Puh-leeze.) The food's not bad, mind you, but overpriced.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 30, 2020 06:33 PM (rpbg1)

138 No! it is the same - the court records the plea of guilty and conviction is the result.

He withdrew the plea.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 30, 2020 06:28 PM (XrCyE)


What has it been, about a year since DoJ said, 'Flynn reneged on his plea so we are reneging on ours' and now this long drawn out soap opera of never ending new evidence documenting extortion by FBI/DoJ?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:33 PM (1g7ch)

139 Harry, I think he would be supplied with a copy of the complaint even thought it was filed elsewhere.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 30, 2020 06:33 PM (Wo6t6)

140 >>>
And why would we think whoever she told wrote it down and made a record of it?

If, alternatively, she told someone outside of Biden's office, well why would this information be in Biden's personal records? It should be in some official record somewhere. Right?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:30 PM (ZkXld)


It's not her complaint they're looking for
it's the other ones.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (+Dp5p)

141
Wolfus Aurelius
The world's smallest wings.
Should be an advertisement.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (jCbpN)

142 Third World country. Wasn't always so. Spots, areas, sure. But now it is literally just no big deal for individuals - as long as Dem, racist/authoritarian, non-white, (add categories as needed) - to do just about anything, commit any crime, lie clumsily and be caught at it. No consequences. No press. And even where reality "leaks" around what passes for a press, half or more of the electorate - meh. Or "one of ours", or right skin color, or whatever.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (El6T/)

143 The left has marched through the schools, the media, entertainment and most of the govt institutions and now big tech. We are at a serious disadvantage and Reade almost has no chance of being heard.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (r+sAi)

144 >>>Remember the episode when Columbo brought in the Twin Brother as a witness?


yes, that's one of my two favorite proofs. I think that's my actual favorite.

That was George Hamilton as the killer. He was a killer at least twice.

He was so smug when he thought he saw through Columbo's ruse.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (PbpT7)

145 1875 boxes? I suspect Joe's Senate records look a lot like the novel Jack Torrance was writing in the main room at the Overlook Hotel.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (j3npP)

146 i have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. i win.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 05:44 PM (KP5rU)


I just saw this from the thread below.

chavez, I will keep you in my prayers. That may seem shallow, but I have a long list and I mean it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:35 PM (ptqGC)

147 It's not her complaint they're looking for it's the other ones.
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Ooooh...that's very possible.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 30, 2020 06:35 PM (sWM8x)

148 Actually went to Costco today. I did wear my mask, but it isn't mandatory yet. I'd say, 90% of the patrons were wearing masks and maybe 20% of that 90% weren't wearing them correctly.

It wasn't anywhere near busy and had a lot of TP and PT, so I'm set.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:35 PM (Zz0t1)

149 133 This tired old man who wants to be elected king. It was the end of the innocence for Joey Bidet
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 06:32 PM (u3JRx)

weve beaten plowshares into codpieces

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:35 PM (JFO2v)

150 Thing I don't get. Both Sharty McScotch and the JEF come out and throw their weight behind Marbles right before all this shit actually starts to get traction.


Bad timing or ulterior motive?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 06:35 PM (G4GU9)

151 How do these people accuse others of sexism without instantly bursting in to flame?
Posted by: pep

Designer Nomex 3 piece suites and dresses.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (3ptRC)

152 Off Sandy Berger Sock!!!

(somebody had to say it)

Posted by: stumck at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (uksaT)

153 You mean grapple their way through them.

Posted by: Cthillary, dead but dreaming at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (Ggb9q)

154 the only trouble with the Hamilton proof is that coluimbo DID coach the brother to act as if he might be blind and just feigning to be sighted. So Hamilton might well have deduced he was blind.

I listened to a podcast going through the columbo episodes, and the last question in each show was, "Did the killer go to jail?" Meaning, did Columbo's contrivance of proof hold up at trial?

It's a good question. Columbo's proofs are clever but sometimes they seem like they'd be pretty shaky in a real trial.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (PbpT7)

155 143 The left has marched through the schools, the media, entertainment and most of the govt institutions and now big tech. We are at a serious disadvantage and Reade almost has no chance of being heard.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (r+sAi)

Not true. Many people hear her. We just do not have a voice.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (JFO2v)

156 Imonna go sit on the porch and listen to the birds. And drink Tito's.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (ptqGC)

157 Nobody from Columbia remembers Emperor Fuckstick, either.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 06:36 PM (goAgZ)

158 They should just be like me and hide a paper shredder up your ass!

Posted by: Baroke Owebama at April 30, 2020 06:37 PM (Zz0t1)

159 So Bidens minions are gonna find proof that reade is a Trump operative and Trump is to blame or something

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2020 06:37 PM (5bxa0)

160
Bad timing or ulterior motive?
Posted by: AlaBAMA

Dunno, but curioser, and curioser.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:37 PM (jCbpN)

161 >>>146 i have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. i win.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 05:44 PM (KP5rU)

I just saw this from the thread below.

chavez, I will keep you in my prayers. That may seem shallow, but I have a long list and I mean it.


...

I'm very saddened to hear this, chavez.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 06:37 PM (PbpT7)

162 What has it been, about a year since DoJ said, 'Flynn reneged on his plea so we are reneging on ours' and now this long drawn out soap opera of never ending new evidence documenting extortion by FBI/DoJ?

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:33 PM (1g7ch)

He only suggested after he got new attorneys that he had second thoughts - AFTER the judge already gave him his right to withdraw his plea and he refused. His right to with draw his plea left with that hearing...now Powell has to pull a rabbit out of her hat - she has to convince the court at sentencing that it was all mistake - he should have withdrawn the guilty plea - THAT is where we are in this case.

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:37 PM (32YRo)

163 >>Not true. Many people hear her. We just do not have a voice.

We have a voice and we get to use it in November.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 06:38 PM (ZLI7S)

164 Chavez, treat it like a Democrat coming to get your guns. Beat the snot out of it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 30, 2020 06:38 PM (u3JRx)

165 161 >>>146 i have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. i win.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 05:44 PM (KP5rU)


Oh no ... I will pray for you... I'm a firm believer in the power of prayer

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2020 06:38 PM (5bxa0)

166
Stop it Bos. You're a joke. It wears thin.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 06:38 PM (jCbpN)

167 159
So Bidens minions are gonna find proof that reade is a Trump operative and Trump is to blame or something


It was Trump wearing a Biden mask.

Posted by: Ringo Starr at April 30, 2020 06:38 PM (AHq56)

168 have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. i win.

Well damn. I will pray.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 30, 2020 06:38 PM (Uu+Jp)

169 Dead man walking who , as Is obvious, is only a puppet of 'better men'...and alleged women.

And as wickedly smart as these handlers are assumed to be , they chose a guy who can't even pass the consciousness test as their Presidential pawn.

Two women--- who pass Gropin Joe's sniff test-- will be on the Dem ticket in November.

Posted by: Voter theater. at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (xXx5y)

170 CHAVEZ!!!!!!!!

Holy shit, man.

I'm soooooooo sorry.... I really hate to hear that.

Where you live?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (Zz0t1)

171 It's not her complaint they're looking for
it's the other ones.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:34 PM (+Dp5p)

I think they're trying to verify that she complained of sexual harrassment then was subsequently fired for it.

Which, incidentally, is illegal.

But again... why would we think Biden would keep any copies of any records of any of his employees complaining about his behavior?

And why do we think there would even be records? And I'm still not following how this would work on a practical level.

If Joe Biden sexually assaulted me, I wouldn't go complain to Joe Biden or his chief of staff about it. It's not like Joe Biden is going to fire Joe Biden.

I have to assume there's some kind of Senate-wide HR people or whatever to complain to, no? And that any complaint would be a government record, and therefor, presumably, would not be "disappeared"?

Because if we're all banking on Biden staffers complaining about Biden to other staffers, then those other staffers taking written records of those complaints, and those written records still existing 25 years later, then... yeah, don't have high hopes for any of that.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (ZkXld)

172 BTW, Tara Reade isn't the only person who has accused Joe of physically accosting them in the Senate halls. Biden once thumped a young non-liberal reporter type in the chest way back.

I've watched him his entire career and he could be a sociopath.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (Eicbe)

173 146 i have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. i win.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 05:44 PM (KP5rU)

I just saw this from the thread below.

chavez, I will keep you in my prayers. That may seem shallow, but I have a long list and I mean it.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:35 PM (ptqGC)

Shit. Really Chavez?

Man...we can not lose our poet of profanity.

Gonna have to hit the prayer books too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (ifmtJ)

174 I think Chavez is in WI.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (goAgZ)

175 Link to Detroit News about armed citizens entering the capitol in Lansing

https://tinyurl.com/y8ub4dux

Courtesy of the adorable Shibumi.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (ZCiJZ)

176 OT but there's hope. Sheriff Barnes of Orange County CA has said he has no intention of enforcing Newsom's beach order.
Hope he runs for office, although good luck against the voter fraud.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (AwPyG)

177 Chavez, my thoughts and prayers to you.

Posted by: dantesed at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (88xKn)

178 Chavez, good grief.
Prayers up, man.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (L2ZTs)

179 Chavez,

Hang tough, brother. Kick its ass.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (x8Wzq)

180
It's a good question. Columbo's proofs are clever but sometimes they seem like they'd be pretty shaky in a real trial.

Posted by: ace


The Show leaves us with the impression the killer gives it all up and just confesses because Columbo foiled their "perfect murder." They walk out with no protest, heads hung low in defeat.

But sure, any decent lawyer would be like yeah, I don't think so.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (vxvj6)

181 The Robert Frost of AoS.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (goAgZ)

182 Radio talking about China owning meat packing plants here. They buy our cattle, ship them in some form to Chi-nah, package the beef there, ship it back here, and sell it as American beef.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (+Dp5p)

183 It's a good question. Columbo's proofs are clever but sometimes they seem like they'd be pretty shaky in a real trial. <<<<<<<

I may be mis-remembering, but it seems a lot of times the perp pretty much admitted it as he was being carted off.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:41 PM (r+sAi)

184 Like my pop always said, a bird in the tree isn't as good as two fingers in the bush!

Posted by: Boe Jiden at April 30, 2020 06:41 PM (9m9TT)

185 chavez, just saw what you posted in the last thread, and jeez man, I'm so sorry to hear that. I don't know what to say.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:42 PM (ZkXld)

186 I don't think the Biden team is going through those records to get in front of this, I think they're going through the records to find and destroy anything that hurts him.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 30, 2020 06:42 PM (4thlk)

187
Man...we can not lose our poet of profanity.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards


I know. Chavez brings the fighting spirit here, every day.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:42 PM (vxvj6)

188 Neal Peart and Chavez?

Fuck Cancer.

Fuck it right in its ass.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:42 PM (ifmtJ)

189 Chavez, you are a long time poster in great esteem. Although it seems unlikely, there are people who have recovered from a terminal diagnosis. I pray that you can join their ranks.

Posted by: Max Power at April 30, 2020 06:42 PM (QCc6B)

190 chavez, if you feel comfortable about letting ace, or JJ or CBD know how to reach you, I know a lot of people here would love to help you in any way possible.


I'm serious.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:42 PM (ptqGC)

191 Stem cell treatments from others, like fetal tissue transplants and transfusion from newborns, have no anecdotal reputation for initiating odd tumors in organs.of the recipient

Posted by: Kindltot--It's not a mask, it's a spit hood at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (bMMCK)

192 Link to Detroit News about armed citizens entering the capitol in Lansing

https://tinyurl.com/y8ub4dux

Courtesy of the adorable Shibumi.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (ZCiJZ)



Doesn't count unless someone gets dragged out behind a horse.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (1g7ch)

193 Chavez prayers for you. Cancer is evil

Posted by: Jmel at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (OeWgo)

194 "76 If this was a plan timed by the DNC to get rid of Biden the MSM wouldn't be covering this story with a pillow.'

Yep. They probably realize the small number of Bernie Bros. who won't vote for Biden will become a large number if Biden is shoved out and the old Bolshevik isn't put into the catbird's seat.

Tomorrow's Morning Joke trial balloon probably is more important than we give it credit. If Biden cannot handle even softball questions about Reade, which will be at most what he is asked, the DNC will have to find a replacement and forestall a mass left-wing revolt. It probably can't be done.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (puu6v)

195 2020 fucking blows.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (goAgZ)

196 Now I'm sad.....

The power of prayer is proven.

Chavez......we're all thinking about you...praying for you.....pulling for your recovery.

Stay strong. Stay positive. Power of attraction and all.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (Zz0t1)

197 183 It's a good question. Columbo's proofs are clever but sometimes they seem like they'd be pretty shaky in a real trial.

I may be mis-remembering, but it seems a lot of times the perp pretty much admitted it as he was being carted off.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:41 PM (r+sAi)

Not a single criminal on that show took my advice: never talk to the cops.

The show would've been over in five minutes.

Posted by: Bill Cosby at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (j3npP)

198 192 Link to Detroit News about armed citizens entering the capitol in Lansing

https://tinyurl.com/y8ub4dux

Courtesy of the adorable Shibumi.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (ZCiJZ)



Doesn't count unless someone gets dragged out behind a horse.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM (1g7ch)

No, but it's a good start. Nice tune you can dance to

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:44 PM (ifmtJ)

199 >>>after Joe Biden denied/ignored complaints from seven women who came forward to complain of inappropriate touching


Biden of the Seven Fingers

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:44 PM (1g7ch)

200 Gru has better minions ...

Posted by: Adriane the Arsenio Hall Critic ... at April 30, 2020 06:44 PM (LPnfS)

201 *sock off*

Posted by: Dack Thrombosis at April 30, 2020 06:44 PM (j3npP)

202 I thought Biden addressed this Reade thing and debunked it a long time ago. Why are we rehashing it?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (XScQZ)

203 OT : First, in a new poll, 25% of Sanders supporters say they will not support Joey Fingers, and I bet few have heard of the new sexual assault allegations. Second, Trump stated he's seen "convincing evidence" that the corona virus came from a Chinese lab.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (jwWKU)

204 Damn, chavez. Words fail me...

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (y7DUB)

205 Is Sloe Joe's appearance tomorrow scripted?

I'm quite sure he's got the questions already.

Ah, journalism.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (G4GU9)

206 Chavez , out of the blue,several nights ago, God put you on my heart and I felt the need to pray for you. Now I know why. I will continue and ask other more, valiant prayer warriors than I to include you. God grant you strength, peace and the determination to battle. I hate cancer.

Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (3ptRC)

207 Tomorrow's Morning Joke trial balloon probably is
more important than we give it credit. If Biden cannot handle even
softball questions about Reade, which will be at most what he is asked,
the DNC will have to find a replacement and forestall a mass left-wing
revolt. It probably can't be done.


Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM

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And that is exactly what tomorrow is, a test of joe biden.


If he can sort of handle the soft ball questions then they are good to go, if not, he gets replaced soon.


Either way it goes, Trump will destroy him with this at the debates if he makes it that far.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 06:46 PM (JUOKG)

208
Biden of the Seven Fingers
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:44 PM (1g7ch)


Joey Fingerbanghands.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:46 PM (Zz0t1)

209 205 Is Sloe Joe's appearance tomorrow scripted?

I'm quite sure he's got the questions already.


I'm sure he'll have his Mommie with him.. Dr. Jill

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2020 06:46 PM (5bxa0)

210 I'll happily trade Pelosi, Soros, Biden, Schiff, Nadler, or any prog for a million chavez.


Dammit to hell.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:46 PM (ptqGC)

211 Link to Detroit News about armed citizens entering the capitol in Lansing

https://tinyurl.com/y8ub4dux

Courtesy of the adorable Shibumi.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at April 30, 2020 06:39 PM (ZCiJZ)


Just read it, only one arrest - drunken progtard tried to steal a protester's flag.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 06:46 PM (1g7ch)

212 I hate my tablet

Posted by: Kindltot--It's not a mask, it's a spit hood at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (bMMCK)

213 By the way - I hear a lot about Judge Sullivan and how his been in on this...I asked my wife (she worked 25 years at a top ten law firm) and my best friend who was a form US attorney in the Eastern District - Flynn's real lucky this judge is even entertaining this at this point - this was pled, asked if it was to be revoked, denied by the defendant, went to sentencing, AND then this showed up. It's damning, I get it, as so does Sullivan - but its not his problem. He did every thing that was suppose to be done.

The riot act he read the defendant? That's just par for the course for a convicted felon - Flynn should have been told that was coming when he pled.

Justice is probably going to get done here because of Trump - but if Sullivan vacates the plea? He should get some real accolades because as a judge, this was not for him to sort out - Flynn and the DOJ presented this crap in his court....

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (32YRo)

214 I will continue and ask other more, valiant prayer warriors than I to include you. God grant you strength, peace and the determination to battle. I hate cancer.
Posted by: Sock Monkey...safety off at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (3ptRC)


This.

Muthafuckin THIS all day long.......

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (Zz0t1)

215 Biden's family roots are in northeast Pennsylvania probably the most corrupt local government this side of Chicago. We have judges in jail for selling minors to private jails and every attorney in the area knew about it. It took a US attorney to stop it. Afterward they indited over 2 dozen local politicians on other corruption charges and got convictions on everyone. Biden breathes corruption. It's in his DNA.

Posted by: Cosda at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (0O+Oz)

216 This looks to me like a Clinton op. Somehow or another, she ends up running against Trump again.

Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (9X60i)

217 well, you know, if Biden says he can't recall Tara Reade, there's a good chance he's not lying

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (G546f)

218 BTW, Tara Reade isn't the only person who has
accused Joe of physically accosting them in the Senate halls. Biden once
thumped a young non-liberal reporter type in the chest way back.



I've watched him his entire career and he could be a sociopath.

Posted by: Axeman at April 30, 2020

**
I'm not sure he's smart enough for that.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (rpbg1)

219 Let me tell you something - when you design a weapon to destroy your enemies, be very very careful not to unleash on yourself!!

Posted by: Chinese communist patry at April 30, 2020 06:48 PM (LWu6U)

220 Holy shit. That shit in Michigan.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 06:48 PM (goAgZ)

221 Let me put my candidacy in you.

Posted by: Joey Fingers at April 30, 2020 06:48 PM (oVJmc)

222
Either way it goes, Trump will destroy him with this at the debates if he makes it that far.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 30, 2020 06:46 PM (JUOKG)


Trump will be a seasoned veteran of politics by the time the debates start, if they do.

I actually picture him doing a Steven Crowder impression of Trump and just dropping bombs all over the place......It'd be EPIC.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (Zz0t1)

223 202 I thought Biden addressed this Reade thing and debunked it a long time ago. Why are we rehashing it?

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at April 30, 2020 06:45 PM (XScQZ)

Wut?! When and how did he debunk it?

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (cF8AT)

224 >>>I may be mis-remembering, but it seems a lot of times the perp pretty much admitted it as he was being carted off.


yes, sometimes he did. Probably half the time. But the other half of the time, the episode just ends with the criminal silent and stunned at having been caught.

The silence says "Yeah I'm guilty, you got me," but of course no court would allow you to enter your interpretation of silence as evidence.

In those episodes, you wonder if he was able to fight the evidence later or get pled down or whatnot.

Posted by: ace at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (PbpT7)

225 Can they get Sandy Berger to go into the vault and stuff his pants with Biden's incriminating files?

Posted by: red speck at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (gS3OW)

226 The script of Biden interview when asked about the accusations will be:
Come on Man! I've been a big supporter of women my whole career.


and that will be that.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (r+sAi)

227
I will continue and ask other more, valiant prayer warriors than I to include you. God grant you strength, peace and the determination to battle. I hate cancer.
Posted by: Sock Monkey


Long Live Chavez the Hugo.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (4f9mN)

228 What?? Chavez?? Oh my brother! Oh I will pray and pray for you. I'll have Rev do the same. Anything you need - you have my email. USE IT. I love you, man.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (lwiT4)

229 I hope you get better Chavez, the commenter.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (jwWKU)

230 You could nuke Scranton and nobody would know the fucking difference.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 06:49 PM (goAgZ)

231 I believe Cat Ass routinely engages in what is known as "sarcasm".

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (El6T/)

232 I hope Hilarious Clinton does run against Trump. She will get slaughtered.

Posted by: Miss Issippi at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (LIhNq)

233 216 This looks to me like a Clinton op. Somehow or another, she ends up running against Trump again.

Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (9X60i)


More videos of crying babies.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (+Dp5p)

234 Does she make a concession speech this time?

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (+Dp5p)

235 Chavez--willowed from the last thread.

You are in my heart and I will put you on a permanent prayer list. I pray that you overcome this. I've seen too many miracles in life to give up on you. My best friend was given a terminal diagnosis 8 years ago.

The entire Horde is here for you. Always. If there is something you need, please let us know.

Posted by: Ladyl at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (TdMsT)

236 226 The script of Biden interview when asked about the accusations will be:
Come on Man! I've been a big supporter of women my whole career.


I'm sure Trump's "past" will be front and center in this "interview"

Posted by: It's me donna at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (5bxa0)

237 Bringing guns to a protest at the capitol? Outstanding thinking.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (El6T/)

238 I'm not sure he's smart enough for that.


that's funny, but seriously - he IS a sociopath, in the "classroom bully" type of way

he's arrogant, stupid, arrogantly stupid, aggressive, mean, and also dumb.

he's been this way for decades.

there were unfortunately a lot of uber-rich asshole dads way back when that I came across. usually lawyers lol...sad but true. lawyers or RE types!

but he was the most...creepy. and loud. and weirdly aggro

he doesn't even KNOW the crap he does is WRONG

he's warped

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (j9HX3)

239 Justice is probably going to get done here because of Trump - but if Sullivan vacates the plea? He should get some real accolades because as a judge, this was not for him to sort out - Flynn and the DOJ presented this crap in his court....
Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (32YRo)

Yeah, that's how it works. The Prosecutor and Defense come together, come to an agreement, and present it to the judge. The Judge usually approves the deal, but before its finalized, there's a whole little speech they give thats basically summed up as
"Do you understand what's going on here? Are you drunk or on drugs? Other than the plea deal, was anything else promised to you in exchange for your guilty plea? Do you understand that by pleading guilty, you get no appeals process?" etc.

I don't see it being overturned.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (ZkXld)

240 And hyperbole.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (+Dp5p)

241 I take back 23% of the bad stuff I've said about Michigan. God bless the patriots of that state!

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (G4GU9)

242 He has his fingers on the pulse of female voters, that's for certain.

Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (XhWtx)

243 Hang on, Joe! I'll parachute in this summer.

Posted by: Big Mike at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (DMQdU)

244 President Obama should do something about this woman's lies !!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: Mary Clogginstein from Brattleboro, VT at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (qM84C)

245 215 Biden's family roots are in northeast Pennsylvania probably the most corrupt local government this side of Chicago. We have judges in jail...
Posted by: Cosda

Judges in jail? If anyone gets caught and goes to jail you are pikers. In our regime they get promoted and a golden parachute!

Posted by: New Jersey at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (LWu6U)

246 I thought Columbo got most of his convictions by threatening to masturbate on the perp's kids.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 30, 2020 06:51 PM (jwWKU)

247 DOCTOR Jill is gonna be right by his side, and SHE will probably handle most of the questions

she will also serve as a hillary-style "wife shield" to help with the PR of this

ew

these people!

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 06:52 PM (j9HX3)

248
The only worse judge than Judge Sullivan is the judge in Roger Stone's illegal sham trial.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:52 PM (4f9mN)

249 Believe some women!

Posted by: Minnfidel at April 30, 2020 06:52 PM (5Zd24)

250 Chi-Town Jerry reminds me that Tara Reade had been complaining of Joe Biden's sexual harassment (though not sexual assault, yet) since spring 2019, after Joe Biden denied/ignored complaints from seven women who came forward to complain of inappropriate touching.
..........

Yeah.. So I'm sure those records have been wiped.. like with a cloth?

Sanitized..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 30, 2020 06:53 PM (CjFDo)

251 chavez my heart is breaking. I'm going to put on one of your records.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 06:54 PM (lwiT4)

252 The only worse judge than Judge Sullivan is the judge in Roger Stone's illegal sham trial.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 06:52 PM (4f9mN)


Ah, I remember when Meggie Mac "Do You Know Who My Father IS????" McCain told Roger Stone to "burn in hell."

She's been oddly silent about her dear friend of the family, who she supports for president, "Uncle Joe."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:54 PM (ptqGC)

253 Come on man! He molests women in front of the cameras, do you think he is less obnoxious in private?????

At this point joe is like those video of children covered in paint explaining that they have no idea how the walls got covered in finger marks.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 30, 2020 06:54 PM (LWu6U)

254 grammie, do I have your email?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:54 PM (ptqGC)

255
I take back 23% of the bad stuff I've said about Michigan. God bless the patriots of that state!

But yet, in the coverage in the Detroit News, the commenters are filled with Trump hate and basically expect everyone who goes outside without a mask to die. And... if they don't die, well, the subtext is that they deserve to die. And should die.


/I am not missing the state of my birth at this moment.

Posted by: shibumi says CV19 is about control and a one world government at April 30, 2020 06:55 PM (ZCiJZ)

256 46 i have been diagnosed with terminal cancer. i win.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 05:44 PM (KP5rU)

Oh no. I am so sorry. I'll pray for you. You have lots of support here; I don't know if it will help but please know its here.

Posted by: LASue at April 30, 2020 06:55 PM (Ed8Zd)

257 I don't see it being overturned.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (ZkXld)

Yeah, Harry - I'm absolutely amazed that Powell has convinced Sullivan to listen to this, not sentence Flynn, and just let some other appeal or what not sort it out...he's done all that is really required of him, the fact that he's let this go on is testament to the fact that I think he HATES the prosecution here.

Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:55 PM (32YRo)

258 Chavez,
prayers and strength to you.
peace and comfort

may the Grace of God be with you.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 30, 2020 06:55 PM (d7Ww2)

259 fn bad mood right now

chavez , prayers again and hugs

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 30, 2020 06:56 PM (G546f)

260
omg Columbo's "evidence." The last button on your jacket doesn't match the other ones. There was salt water in your glass. The cat ran left instead of right. Why would you put the trash out on Thursday when it's not picked up until Saturday?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:56 PM (G51Gf)

261 grammie, do I have your email?


Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:54 PM (ptqGC)



I think so. Let me look. If I have it, I'll send you a note so you know.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 06:57 PM (lwiT4)

262 182 Radio talking about China owning meat packing plants here. They buy our cattle, ship them in some form to Chi-nah, package the beef there, ship it back here, and sell it as American beef.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (+Dp5p

Untrue.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid, at April 30, 2020 06:57 PM (Vy7tf)

263 I think so. Let me look. If I have it, I'll send you a note so you know.


Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 06:57 PM (lwiT4)


Thanks, hon!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:57 PM (ptqGC)

264 Well Judge Sullivan's "brand", kinda, is ass-whoopin' prosecutorial abuse. Flynn's lawyer even wrote a book about it.

Looks here like we have a festival of guvamint abuse, from the "investigation" right through to the prosecution/blackmail involving threat to persecute Flynn's son.

There's a related if separate gigantic problem of federal prosecutorial power that seems to have made actual prosecution and proving a case almost a novelty and quaint throwback, in all kinds of cases.

Would one of the many ways to start fixing that be to make if OK for defendants to publicize any extortion, er, deal-making actions and offers and threats by the prosecutors? I think so. Ought to be as public as anything that goes on in court. In writing.

Why not? Sunshine, and all that.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 06:58 PM (El6T/)

265 @239
I'm a broken record, but its pretty clear Judge Sullivan is corrupt. He sat on a plea deal for over 2 years, holding off sentencing because he knew he was going to get in trouble. He didn't recuse himself after accusing Flynn of treason. And now he's issued an order basically telling atty Powell to shut up

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 06:58 PM (AwPyG)

266 I spoke to early, a FOIA has been filed.
https://tinyurl.com/ycvcrcp9

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 30, 2020 06:58 PM (r+sAi)

267
I'm going to put on one of your records.
Posted by: grammie winger

========

What are his records?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:58 PM (G51Gf)

268 Remember when Joey Bowling Ball Grip Biden gave that interview stating that all his hair sniffing and close face was just the social norms at the time??


That should make for a fun ad campaign. I wonder if forcible fingering was also a social norm he's just going to now realize is a no-no.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (G4GU9)

269 Chavez.. if u ever need to talk, or write... whatev.. please feel free to contact me. just my nic at yahoo. Got nothing but time anymore brother.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (dUJdY)

270 Yeah, Harry - I'm absolutely amazed that Powell has convinced Sullivan to listen to this, not sentence Flynn, and just let some other appeal or what not sort it out...he's done all that is really required of him, the fact that he's let this go on is testament to the fact that I think he HATES the prosecution here.
Posted by: Boswell at April 30, 2020 06:55 PM (32YRo)

I'm not even sure what the legal theory is here. "Your honor, my client wouldn't have plead guilty if he had more information."

"Yeah, but ... he came in front of me in court and admitted to committing the crime, so what do you want me to do about that? Pretend he didn't plead guilty and just ... start over?"

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (ZkXld)

271 >>Yeah, Harry - I'm absolutely amazed that Powell has convinced Sullivan to listen to this, not sentence Flynn, and just let some other appeal or what not sort it out...he's done all that is really required of him, the fact that he's let this go on is testament to the fact that I think he HATES the prosecution here.

This is not Sullivan's first rodeo with corrupt prosecutors. He's not a fan.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (ZLI7S)

272 Every guy Columbo caught hired Perry Mason as defense attorney and got off every damn time.

Posted by: Joey Fingers at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (oVJmc)

273
you wonder if he was able to fight the evidence later or get pled down or whatnot.

Posted by: ace

=======

Background music says No.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (G51Gf)

274 It's interesting that the UK courts don't allow plea deals, probably to prevent the very problem that we are seeing.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (AwPyG)

275 New monicker.

Hidin' Biden.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020 07:00 PM (yTBRp)

276 Thanks, hon!




Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 06:57 PM (ptqGC)


I could have sworn I had your email. But I'm coming up empty.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:00 PM (lwiT4)

277 Just read it, only one arrest - drunken progtard tried to steal a protester's flag.
Posted by: Burnt Toast


Check out the comments.

Almost uniformly AGAINST the protesters. From mild anger to outright disgust and hatred.

This is your 21st Century Michigan. Or what the Detroit News wants you to see.

From what I know, I think the people in the UP would like the government to try and come up there and make them behave. And they would show them what for. Those people that live in the UP are tough and nobody tells them what to do.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at April 30, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCiJZ)

278 Tomorrow's Morning Joke trial balloon probably is
more important than we give it credit. If Biden cannot handle even
softball questions about Reade, which will be at most what he is asked,
the DNC will have to find a replacement and forestall a mass left-wing
revolt. It probably can't be done.


Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM

---

And that is exactly what tomorrow is, a test of joe biden.


Do you think he knows that?
I wonder how lost in a fog he truly is. I'm picturing London, late 1952.

Posted by: LASue at April 30, 2020 07:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

279 I could have sworn I had your email. But I'm coming up empty.


Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:00 PM (lwiT4)


bluebell and Tami have mine. Stupidly, my email is my name.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:01 PM (ptqGC)

280 Got willowed but really sorry to hear you're sick chavez. Fuck cancer!

Posted by: dartist at April 30, 2020 07:01 PM (K22Va)

281 253 Come on man! He molests women in front of the cameras, do you think he is less obnoxious in private?????

At this point joe is like those video of children covered in paint explaining that they have no idea how the walls got covered in finger marks.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at April 30, 2020 06:54 PM (LWu6U)


There were women in his SS detail when he went swimming.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:01 PM (+Dp5p)

282
She'll be referred to as "a former staffer" "almost 30 years ago." They will not say her name. You watch.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (4f9mN)

283 "Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 05:44 PM (KP5rU) "

Prayers out. Never give up the fight. Only the Lord knows what's terminal.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (yTBRp)

284 I wonder if Joe's handlers will attempt this dodge:

Announce that no records can be publicly released due to the privacy rights of people other than Biden and Reade. BUT...Joe is going to let a person of his choosing, one with an impeccably non-partisan reputation, review the records for anything relating to Reade's accusation. Someone like...Bob Mueller. Or any one of the horde of supposedly apolitical and impeccable reputation people in DC.

(We only need one guess about the results. And this plan minimizes the risk of someone on the outside learning that records about Reade have been removed from the archive.)

The Media would immediately buy-into this plan.

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (AMIL/)

285 I really hope chavez gets a second or third opinion.

Have no idea what his cancer is, but too many doctors give people death sentences, and those people beat the odds.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (ptqGC)

286 This is not Sullivan's first rodeo with corrupt prosecutors. He's not a fan.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 06:59 PM (ZLI7S)

I don't do criminal, but it doesn't beyond possibility that he dismisses based on extreme prosecutorial misconduct.

Posted by: LASue at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (Ed8Zd)

287 "Do you understand what's going on here? Are you drunk or on drugs? Other than the plea deal, was anything else promised to you in exchange for your guilty plea? Do you understand that by pleading guilty, you get no appeals process?" etc.

I don't see it being overturned.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (ZkXld)


That speech always works on those who are in fact under duress... Why yes Judge, they said they would kill my son if I didn't cop a plea. Everything they filed with the court is a complete fabrication, so I think they will really kill my kid if I don't take the deal. So, no, nobody offered anything in exchange for the plea.


But seriously, was that when Flynn was supposed to itemize everything he and loved ones was threatened with? Even if evidence appears to lean that way, unless defendant literally says he is under duress the Judge is supposed to go with it?

Seriously? The average dumb-ass in flyover country can see that would make the judge an accessory during the fact.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (1g7ch)

288 Is that shriveled old hag RBG still breathing? If so, unreal.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (ptqGC)

289 There were women in his SS detail when he went swimming.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:01 PM (+Dp5p)


Whoops! My towel.


Should I...pick it up?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (G4GU9)

290 Well Judge Sullivan's "brand", kinda, is ass-whoopin' prosecutorial abuse. Flynn's lawyer even wrote a book about it.

Yes, despite all the bitching about Sullivan, here and elsewhere, Sidney Powell does nothing but praise him. Even though it seems like the crooked prosecutors in the Ted Stevens case got off with wrist slaps, I believe Sullivan gave them the maximum punishment the law allowed him to impose.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (y7DUB)

291 3 in the pink, 1 in the stink... I think.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (pw+jk)

292 Would you believe stars-tv is showing something called 'Stranger Fruit' about Michael Brown being murdered by police in Missouri? Seems the left gotta left. I can't even....

Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (XhWtx)

293 "282
She'll be referred to as "a former staffer" "almost 30 years ago." They will not say her name. You watch.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (4f9mN)"

Biden has his finger in her. They could at least call her a close acquaintance.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (yTBRp)

294 Prayers for your restoration to complete health, chavez.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (w7KSn)

295 Is it safe to assume he fingered Dr Jill?

I think it is. My night will be dark, and full of terrors.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (6/uwW)

296
"Look, here are the facts, when you're in politics as long as me, these accusations happen...to everyone."

Posted by: Joke Biden tomorrow at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (4f9mN)

297 UP is Michigan 1, lower is #2

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (+Dp5p)

298
And that is exactly what tomorrow is, a test of joe biden.


Do you think he knows that?
I wonder how lost in a fog he truly is. I'm picturing London, late 1952.
Posted by: LASue

...........

Bah.. they will give him the questions ahead of time and he will have his answers prepared..

and they will give him an extra shot of uppers beforehand!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (CjFDo)

299 231 I believe Cat Ass routinely engages in what is known as "sarcasm".

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (El6T/)

After I hit posts, I thought, waitaminute...I think he's being sarcastic.

Then I went and ate dinner...

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (cF8AT)

300 Stupidly, my email is my name.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:01 PM (ptqGC)



Oh Jane, how could you do something like that?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (jnM20)

301 Nancy Pelosi doesn't believe Reade because back in the day when women didn't report these things because they wouldn't be believed, Reade didn't report it.


That's pretty much a synopsis of her statement.


Posted by: Mr. Feverhead at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (9oFuj)

302 Why do I feel like Biden's interview with Joe and Mika will be pre-recorded?

Or DOCTOR Jill will just speak for him while Joe drifts off and plays with his socks.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (ptqGC)

303 OT: Illinois Gov. Pritzker looks and acts an awful lot like Johnny Rocco from Key Largo.

Posted by: Jinxthecat at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (FTlwv)

304 But seriously, was that when Flynn was supposed to itemize everything he and loved ones was threatened with? Even if evidence appears to lean that way, unless defendant literally says he is under duress the Judge is supposed to go with it?

Seriously? The average dumb-ass in flyover country can see that would make the judge an accessory during the fact.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 07:02 PM (1g7ch)

There's been case law on this, as you can imagine. I don't remember all of the details, but basically -- yeah.

You can say "yes, I'm under duress, they threatened to do [xyz]" then the judge will not approve the plea. But if you say "no, I'm not under duress" or whatever, you can't later claim you were because you previously swore in court you weren't.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (ZkXld)

305 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

306 Babylon Bee really is very good. 1970s National Lampoon good.

And LOL, Papadopolous answers twatterer question "who is Crossfire Typhoon", saying - "Me". Then he says some other stuff. Funny.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (El6T/)

307

Christ Almighty...

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (4f9mN)

308 Sandy Burglar all over again.

And can you blame them? We let them get away with it last time, so why wouldn't they pull this stunt again?

Posted by: Fen at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (WE806)

309 300 Stupidly, my email is my name.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:01 PM (ptqGC)


Oh Jane, how could you do something like that?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:04 PM (jnM20)
-----
So, myname @ ?????

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (MVjcR)

310 I believe Sullivan gave them the maximum punishment the law allowed him to impose.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (y7DUB)


Which tells you all too much about the state of the corrupt American "justice" system!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (jnM20)

311 "OT: Illinois Gov. Pritzker looks and acts an awful lot like Johnny Rocco from Key Largo"

He looks more like a fat, bulbous cat that just licked its own ass.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (yTBRp)

312 ....and what about the revelation that his own fucking lawyers conspired against him? ...if that isn't enough nothing is.

Posted by: Pliney at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (nzKWW)

313 They're doing this all so totally stupid -----> They don't care about winning honestly ----> They're acting like the fix is in -----> The fix is in

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (0V/8D)

314 Tomorrow's Morning Joke trial balloon probably is

more important than we give it credit. If Biden cannot handle even

softball questions about Reade, which will be at most what he is asked,

the DNC will have to find a replacement and forestall a mass left-wing

revolt. It probably can't be done.





Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 06:43 PM

====
"forestall a mass left-wing
revolt."

HAHAHAHA, that made me laugh and laugh. Cults don't revolt. They quickly get into line.

Posted by: Joe Biden at April 30, 2020 07:07 PM (pw+jk)

315 305
as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my
brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i
don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep
the faith if you can.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)


Oh dear chavez. I'm so sorry. No, sorry doesn't cover it. I will still pray for you, because miracles do happen. And I'll pray for your sweet wife, as well.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:07 PM (ptqGC)

316 chavez buddy, your orneriness alone may well prevail here - it's happened before. Hang tough, stay nasty.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:07 PM (El6T/)

317 So, myname @ ?????

Posted by: Weasel at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (MVjcR)

weasel@weaselacres.com

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:07 PM (jnM20)

318 He looks more like a fat, bulbous cat that just licked its own ass.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020

*
*
I object to that!

Posted by: Wolfus's Fat Cat at April 30, 2020 07:07 PM (rpbg1)

319 keep the faith if you can.

Always. We are all here for Chavez. and {{hugs}}

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (dUJdY)

320 305 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

Oh man. I feel sick but I will pray.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (Uu+Jp)

321 >>Do you understand what's going on here? Are you drunk or on drugs? Other than the plea deal, was anything else promised to you in exchange for your guilty plea? Do you understand that by pleading guilty, you get no appeals process?" etc.

>>I don't see it being overturned.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 06:50 PM (ZkXld)


But something was promised him and not disclosed to the court. The secret lawyers agreement not to prosecute Flynn's son if Flynn pled.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (ZLI7S)

322 I'm sorry, chavez. Live your days to the fullest and never miss the opportunity to tell someone you love them.

Except Joe Biden.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (gAXBD)

323 312 ....and what about the revelation that his own fucking lawyers conspired against him? ...if that isn't enough nothing is.
Posted by: Pliney at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (nzKWW)

Well, if he went to trial and lost, he could potentially argue that on appeal.

But he plead guilty. As in, admitted guilt to the crime he was charged with.

Saying "I got shitty legal advice, I shouldn't have plead guilty" doesn't work, as much as jailhouse "lawyers" would like it to work.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:09 PM (ZkXld)

324 "230 You could nuke Scranton and nobody would know the fucking difference."
****
I guess you haven't seen Wilkes Barre.

Posted by: Cosda at April 30, 2020 07:09 PM (0O+Oz)

325 Seems easy enough. When did Joe last work as a public employee?

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:09 PM (FhZqL)

326 Shit, sorry to hear that chavez the hugo.

Cancer sucks, multiple cancers sucks a whole lot more.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 30, 2020 07:09 PM (pw+jk)

327 This post deserves a flaming mask!

Posted by: That irredeemable guy who always says... at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (EgshT)

328 Jack, that's what I was referring to up above. And making a general point about all prosecutions.

Why not make any prosecution deals - every bit of them, including threats - part of the public record?

Oh, it will hamstring prosecutions of obviously guilty and baaaad people, you say.

Huh.

Too bad. Get better prosecutors, or ones willing to work harder.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (El6T/)

329 I had grandparents in Williamsport.

Wilkes Barre is need of its own 50 Megaton solution.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (goAgZ)

330
Saying "I got shitty legal advice, I shouldn't have plead guilty" doesn't work, as much as jailhouse "lawyers" would like it to work.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Well, you're wrong, first of all...

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (jCbpN)

331 I believe Sullivan gave them the maximum punishment the law allowed him to impose.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:03 PM (y7DUB)

Which tells you all too much about the state of the corrupt American "justice" system!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:06 PM (jnM20)


Every time Patterico and his dumbfuck partner in grime, Popehat, weigh in on anything legal, it makes me think that Nifong took the fall for doing what every other prosecutor does.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (y7DUB)

332 Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

Prayers up chavez, for you, and your wife and family!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:11 PM (jnM20)

333
The Judge usually approves the deal, but before its finalized, there's a whole little speech they give thats basically summed up as
"Do you understand what's going on here? Are you drunk or on drugs? Other than the plea deal, was anything else promised to you in exchange for your guilty plea? Do you understand that by pleading guilty, you get no appeals process?" etc.

I don't see it being overturned.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

=======

Apparently some prosecutorial misconduct, however?

>>a "side deal" with prosecutor Brandon Van Grack of Team Mueller not to prosecute Flynn's son in exchange for his cooperation. According to Powell, Van Grack "required that [the side deal] be kept secret between himself and [Flynn's] Covington attorneys expressly to avoid the requirement of [disclosure imposed by] Giglio v. United States..."


Among other things.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:11 PM (G51Gf)

334 "America needs a person like Joe Biden with his, again, his integrity and his vision for the future."

Posted by: MaligNancy P., (D-PDRK) at April 30, 2020 07:11 PM (DMUuz)

335 I thought the judge hadn't ruled yet on whether Flynn could withdraw his guilty plea. That would not automatically dismiss the case but basically go to trial, right?

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at April 30, 2020 07:12 PM (QzF6i)

336 But something was promised him and not disclosed to the court. The secret lawyers agreement not to prosecute Flynn's son if Flynn pled.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (ZLI7S)

I mean, that's probably why the judge is even entertaining this. If the entirety of the plea deal was not disclosed to the judge, he may have some more wiggle room than usual. But, again, it's standard practice for a judge to ask a list of questions including basically 'were there any promises made that I dont know about?' and if Flynn answered "no" when the correct answer was "yes," then he's saying "I lied to you when I plead guilty." ...

... I would not have high hopes that the judge will overturn a guilty plea, based on what we know now.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:12 PM (ZkXld)

337 305 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

chaves please let us know if there's anything we can do for you and yours. Of course, you have all our prayers but anything else. Just holler...and don't be shy about it.

My email is moronettetami at gmail, if you need anything at all.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:12 PM (cF8AT)

338 305 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

Dammit, cth. I'll be praying for you, man.
Fuck cancer.

Posted by: jsg at April 30, 2020 07:12 PM (ui+1A)

339 Chavez, I'm not a full fledged Moran but you have my prayers.

Posted by: Cosda at April 30, 2020 07:12 PM (0O+Oz)

340 Hang dai chavez.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:13 PM (L+kF6)

341 >>>
Oh, it will hamstring prosecutions of obviously guilty and baaaad people, you say.

Huh.

Too bad. Get better prosecutors, or ones willing to work harder.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (El6T/)


Hey, it's not like they will run you till you can't afford a lawyer.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:13 PM (+Dp5p)

342 Apparently some prosecutorial misconduct, however?

>>a "side deal" with prosecutor Brandon Van Grack of Team Mueller not to prosecute Flynn's son in exchange for his cooperation. According to Powell, Van Grack "required that [the side deal] be kept secret between himself and [Flynn's] Covington attorneys expressly to avoid the requirement of [disclosure imposed by] Giglio v. United States..."


Among other things.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:11 PM (G51Gf)

That's all well and good, and lawyers could get sanctioned for that kind of stuff.

Still doesn't change the fact that Flynn admitted his guilt in court by pleading guilty.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:13 PM (ZkXld)

343
Here's one citation
https://tinyurl.com/yc2fxkye

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 07:13 PM (jCbpN)

344 jsg took the words right out of my mouth

FUCK CANCER

I'm so sorry to hear this, chavez the hugo!!!

DAMN

well we're gonna pray, and you're gonna fight!

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (j9HX3)

345 But something was promised him and not disclosed to the court. The secret lawyers agreement not to prosecute Flynn's son if Flynn pled.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (ZLI7S)

What exactly did they say they were going to prosecute his son for? I've never seen that mentioned.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (cF8AT)

346 Chavez, I'm not a full fledged Moran but you have my prayers.
Posted by: Cosda at April 30, 2020 07:12 PM (0O+Oz)

That's okay. I'm only a partial Moron as well.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (Uu+Jp)

347 Too bad. Get better prosecutors, or ones willing to work harder.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (El6T/)


But the prosecutors are TOP.MEN of integrity and, after all, who are we, mere citizens after all, to make their job of increasing their conviction tally even harder by insisting on open court proceedings?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (jnM20)

348 Damn Chavez........

I will keep you in my prayers.


Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (Z+IKu)

349 I am at a loss, Chavez. You have brought a lot to this place and I hope you will continue for a long, long time.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (FTlwv)

350 Chavez, I am so sorry.

Posted by: runner at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (zr5Kq)

351 Will be praying for Chavez. Hang in there.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (iwRWY)

352 >> mean, that's probably why the judge is even entertaining this. If the entirety of the plea deal was not disclosed to the judge, he may have some more wiggle room than usual. But, again, it's standard practice for a judge to ask a list of questions including basically 'were there any promises made that I dont know about?' and if Flynn answered "no" when the correct answer was "yes," then he's saying "I lied to you when I plead guilty." ...

... I would not have high hopes that the judge will overturn a guilty plea, based on what we know now.

That's a pretty neat trick. The prosecutors and his lawyers agreed to keep the deal quiet to evade court rules and if Flynn broke the deal and told the judge the prosecutors would go after his son. And now Sullivan knows as we all do that the entire prosecution was a setup and there was zero criminal conduct.

I know judges don't like to overturn a plea. They also don't like being lied to and played for a fool. This is far from a normal situation.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (ZLI7S)

353 314:

"HAHAHAHA, that made me laugh and laugh. Cults don't revolt. They quickly get into line."

Ten percent of Sanders voters defected to Trump in 2016. That was just shy of 2,000,000. Left-wingers are prone to purity spirals.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (puu6v)

354 Chavez.

I will be praying for you and your family my friend.

I fucking HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE cancer.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (IYHxL)

355 Saying "I got shitty legal advice, I shouldn't have plead guilty" doesn't work, as much as jailhouse "lawyers" would like it to work.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes
Well, you're wrong, first of all...
Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (jCbpN)

Am I? Well, it's certainly possible, I don't do a lot of trial work and the federal rules of criminal procedure is certainly not my strong point.

So what did I get wrong?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (ZkXld)

356 Ugh...just saw the news. Praying hard for you and your family chavez.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (EgshT)

357 Chavez, I literally do not know what to say. The other commenters have covered about everything. Hang in there!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 30, 2020 07:16 PM (rpbg1)

358 "Sandy, why to these records smell like pastrami Blue Emu?"

-Joe Biden

Posted by: portlandon at April 30, 2020 07:16 PM (+oR7L)

359 328 Jack, that's what I was referring to up above. And making a general point about all prosecutions.

Why not make any prosecution deals - every bit of them, including threats - part of the public record?

Oh, it will hamstring prosecutions of obviously guilty and baaaad people, you say.

Huh.

Too bad. Get better prosecutors, or ones willing to work harder.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:10 PM (El6T/)


Part of the problem is that for a lawyer to get ahead in any local DA office or DOJ district office, he/she needs to win cases, and the bigger the cases the better. Unfortunately, I don't know how else to incentivize the workers and winnow the high-performers from the low-performers.

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2020 07:16 PM (AMIL/)

360 96 "Columbo had also planted a contact lens...."

So how many years did Colombo teach at the FBI Academy?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 30, 2020 07:16 PM (DjrvG)

361 What exactly did they say they were going to prosecute his son for? I've never seen that mentioned.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (cF8AT)


Well, Flynn already knew they were prosecuting him for nothing, so he didn't need to ask about the potential charges against his son!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:16 PM (jnM20)

362 chavez, please don't be shy about reaching out for support of any kind.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:17 PM (ptqGC)

363 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i
have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some
other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my
wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)


I love you. I will pray for you. Rev is on it.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:17 PM (lwiT4)

364 Oh, Chavez. I already said it last thread, but I'm so very sorry.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2020 07:17 PM (OzQGF)

365 Dammit chavez

Posted by: dartist at April 30, 2020 07:17 PM (K22Va)

366 That's a pretty neat trick. The prosecutors and his lawyers agreed to keep the deal quiet to evade court rules and if Flynn broke the deal and told the judge the prosecutors would go after his son. And now Sullivan knows as we all do that the entire prosecution was a setup and there was zero criminal conduct.

I know judges don't like to overturn a plea. They also don't like being lied to and played for a fool. This is far from a normal situation.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (ZLI7S)

Agreed. And I'm not saying I agree with the way it works, I think we give prosecutors faaarrr too much power and have too many fingers on the scale in favor of the government in criminal trials.

Just that... yeah, it's reallllly hard to walk back a guilty plea.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:17 PM (ZkXld)

367 Jame - sorry - I had a phone call. In case you missed it, I've lost your email.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:17 PM (lwiT4)

368 Chavez just wondering does your wife ever come by here?

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (ZCEU2)

369 Jane



Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (lwiT4)

370 Fuck cancer, especially when it kills good people.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (ptqGC)

371 Am I? Well, it's certainly possible, I don't do a lot of trial work and the federal rules of criminal procedure is certainly not my strong point.

So what did I get wrong?

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:15 PM (ZkXld)

Well, first you're harshin' our mellow and B, that's like your opinion man.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (cF8AT)

372 Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

damn it
prayers for your wife too

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (G546f)

373 Chavez, Prayers sent for you and your family.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (7EjX1)

374 324 "230 You could nuke Scranton and nobody would know the fucking difference."
****
I guess you haven't seen Wilkes Barre.
Posted by: Cosda



Hey now, the Poconos are near by and they are some nice golf courses so please don't nuke Scranton.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (iwRWY)

375 Wait, Jane and grammie I have both of yours...I think.

Lemme look.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (cF8AT)

376
What exactly did they say they were going to prosecute his son for? I've never seen that mentioned.
Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (cF8AT)

That's on a "need to know" basis, and you don't need to know that.

Posted by: MarkY at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (jCbpN)

377 This looks to me like a Clinton op. Somehow or another, she ends up running against Trump again.
Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at April 30, 2020 06:47 PM (9X60i)

Agree. Certainly she has that Intention.

Posted by: Voter theater. at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (xXx5y)

378
Wait, Jane and grammie I have both of yours...I think.



Lemme look.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (cF8AT)


We're saved!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (ptqGC)

379 Crap, chavez, that's terrible!

Prayers offered.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (WEBkv)

380 Hey, it's not like they will run you till you can't afford a lawyer.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:13 PM (+Dp5p)


Bankrupt defendants go to jail!

Success!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (jnM20)

381 Just to say again, the Flynn prosecution has been turned into an effective investigation of the plot against him (and, by extension, against Trump).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (oVJmc)

382 374: they are some nice golf courses


"They have some nice golf courses". HAVE. Me eNgriSh ain't know gude.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (iwRWY)

383 370 Fuck cancer, especially when it kills good people.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (ptqGC)


This

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (G4GU9)

384 chavez - are you going to the big aurora up there? I knew someone who went there with cancer and had a good outcome. Just trying to throw some hope out to you.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (lwiT4)

385 Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

Let us know what we can do, brother.......We're already praying and thinking about you.

What can we do?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (Zz0t1)

386 >>What exactly did they say they were going to prosecute his son for? I've never seen that mentioned.

I believe it was for similar stuff that they were going after Flynn for, FARA type violations. Flynn Jr worked with his dad.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (ZLI7S)

387 Jane and grammie, check your e-mails.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (cF8AT)

388 Prosecute his son.

Common cops have throw down guns, and throw down baggies and these guys are TOP MEN; they could throw down the most despicable of charges.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (+Dp5p)

389 Last night on Tucker's show, someone said the judge might declare a mis-trial and tell DOJ they can prosecute the case again if they wish. Which they won't.

Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (AMIL/)

390 Wait, Jane and grammie I have both of yours...I think.



Lemme look.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:18 PM (cF8AT)



Thank you Tami.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (lwiT4)

391 Part of the problem is that for a lawyer to get ahead in any local DA office or DOJ district office, he/she needs to win cases, and the bigger the cases the better. Unfortunately, I don't know how else to incentivize the workers and winnow the high-performers from the low-performers.
Posted by: Gref at April 30, 2020 07:16 PM (AMIL/)

Yeah, I don't know the answer either. I interned in a prosecutors during law school, and at least in my (limited and anecdotal) experience, most of them seemed like pretty fair people.

There's not really a huge downside to dropping a case, or offering a good plea deal. But as you say, that win ratio in court is very important for everyones career.

Which is part of the reason prosecutors love plea deals. I don't know the stats off the top of my head, but I'd guess over 90% of the felony cases in the jurisdiction I worked in were either dropped or plead out. Very few cases actually went through the whole trial process

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (ZkXld)

392 Bankrupt defendants go to jail!

Success!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (jnM20)
--------------

This is exactly why defendants will plead out to a lesser charge.

My wife worked for a defense oriented firm. She has stories.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:21 PM (WEBkv)

393 @CBSNews

President Trump says he would "certainly consider" bringing Michael Flynn, his convicted former national security adviser, back into his administration.


Convicted?!
Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 06:21 PM (cF8AT)
**********
And Catherine Herridge works for this POS organization. Wonder how they feel about her tweets regarding the Flynn case?
I don't watch CBS so I don't know if they even let her cover this.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 07:21 PM (wiXsO)

394 Ha. I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.

They've got to be in cups with lids on them, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (L+kF6)

395 Got it Tami! Thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (lwiT4)

396 2 What if he was Romeo in black jeans?
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 30, 2020 06:08 PM (ifmtJ)

Maybe he's just looking for
Someone to dance with

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (NWiLs)

397 Bankrupt defendants go to jail!

Success!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 30, 2020 07:19 PM (jnM20)
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also, pleading out to a lesser charge is how prosecutors pad their "successful prosecution" stats.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (WEBkv)

398 I still find it amazing that Flynn would hire a law firm where Eric Holder was a senior partner.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (ZLI7S)

399 366:

"Just that... yeah, it's reallllly hard to walk back a guilty plea."

It is. From memory, though, ineffective assistance of counsel is pretty solid grounds to vacate a plea. That looks to hav happened here.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (puu6v)

400 Thanks, Tami!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:23 PM (ptqGC)

401 Chavez; what they said. The power of prayer is amazing. Please keep us up to date, miracles happen. Every day.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2020 07:23 PM (7Fj9P)

402 I think we give prosecutors faaarrr too much power and have too many fingers on the scale in favor of the government in criminal trials.

Prosecutors, particularly federal ones, are the weak link in our constitutional republic. There's a reason the DOJ wasn't created by the Constitution and don't get me started on what the founders would think about a special counsel. Being able to bring the full power of the feds against a private citizen is an abomination.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (y7DUB)

403 "Hey now, the Poconos are near by and they are some nice golf courses so please don't nuke Scranton.
Posted by: Puddleglum "
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Don't worry, Just had a nice burger from a buck that recently lived in the Poconos. Golf green grass fed.

Posted by: Cosda at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (0O+Oz)

404 **********
And Catherine Herridge works for this POS organization. Wonder how they feel about her tweets regarding the Flynn case?
I don't watch CBS so I don't know if they even let her cover this.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 07:21 PM (wiXsO)


Hedging their bets.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (+Dp5p)

405 394 Ha. I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.

They've got to be in cups with lids on them, though.
Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (L+kF6)

How generous of Comrade Lepetomane!

Give Comrade Lepetomane a Harumph!

Posted by: jsg at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (MpfQD)

406 I'm convinced the reason so many leftists avoid/survive cancer, is they're more than willing to sell their souls to the devil.

Just my opinion.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (ptqGC)

407 Another glorious day at the firm! A day at the firm is like a day on the farm. Every meal is a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (NWiLs)

408 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

As others have pointed out, miracles do happen. A few years ago, my mother had 1000-to-1 odds against surviving surgery (according to her surgeon) and she lived long enough to see my first grandchild, who was born in early December. Mom passed in February but was a happy warrior to the end. Every moment counts. God bless and keep you, buddy.

Posted by: troyriser at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (pr6Sg)

409 You're both welcome!

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)

410 Time for confession.

Zod, too, put his fingers in Tara Reade.

In fact, Zod does not have any acquaintances from that time who did not put their fingers in Tara Reade. it was a 'done thing,' like checking your coat at the Sulgrave Club or asking for another olive. Tripp Bastion put his fingers in her twice within fifteen minutes. Tripp. Cad. A sport, though.

This all seems entirely unremarkable.

Posted by: Zod at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (XzT/D)

411 OT but there's hope. Sheriff Barnes of Orange County CA has said he has no intention of enforcing Newsom's beach order.
Hope he runs for office, although good luck against the voter fraud.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 06:40 PM (AwPyG)

Newsom was supposed to close all state beaches. Instead, he decided that he was only going to close Orange County beaches. Good luck enforcing that since both the Sheriff and the County have said that the Sheriff's Office will not be enforcing any of the state's closure orders.

I hope there are even more people out on the beaches tomorrow.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (nu45M)

412 if the FBI has exculpatory evidence they withhold, doesn't that mean game over? Or are the rules of discovery different if you're fighting the Feds?

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (7Fj9P)

413
Another glorious day at the firm! A day at the firm is like a day on the farm. Every meal is a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!

Posted by: Insomniac


Well, there's some much needed cheer for the day.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (4f9mN)

414
lawyers could get sanctioned for that kind of stuff.

Still doesn't change the fact that Flynn admitted his guilt in court by pleading guilty.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

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What about the DOJ failing to turn over Brady evidence? Apparently it's not an automatic dismissal, but it seems to me that while you weren't drunk or coerced, you weren't aware of things you were entitled to be aware of when you submitted your plea.

All this said, I'm not sure why a man of such sophistication and experience agreed to the FBI interview in the first place. I'd like to think I also wouldn't have pled guilty to a federal felony I didn't commit.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (G51Gf)

415 I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.


Why, how magnificently benevolent of them.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (EgshT)

416 394 Ha. I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.

They've got to be in cups with lids on them, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (L+kF6)


iirc TX gov said they may keep alcohol to go permanent.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (+Dp5p)

417 I still find it amazing that Flynn would hire a law firm where Eric Holder was a senior partner.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:22 PM (ZLI7S)


That's a puzzler that many people have made hypotheses about.

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (y7DUB)

418 I'm sorry to hear that chavez.

Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (3DZIZ)

419 412 if the FBI has exculpatory evidence they withhold, doesn't that mean game over? Or are the rules of discovery different if you're fighting the Feds?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (7Fj9P)

You're either cops or you're little people.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (NWiLs)

420 Ha. I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.

They've got to be in cups with lids on them, though.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:22
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Started doing that here few weeks ago. But the alcohol is not mixed in. They give you separate airplane bottle sized liquor to mix when you get home.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (Dhht7)

421 Mister, I could use a man like Sandy Berger now.

Posted by: Slow Joe at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (pK7cg)

422 Please, chavez, I will not intrude on you, but if you ever want to talk, drop me an email. I think you probably still have it. If not, let me know. You are dear to my heart.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (lwiT4)

423 The first clue that the judges (or many of them) are corrupt came in the hillary email case, where immunity was given to all witnesses, who then took the 5th, and the presiding judge thought that was fine, and then sealed all the records.(the whole point of immunity is you can't then take the 5th, and records are sealed only in very rare circumstances.)

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (AwPyG)

424 iirc TX gov said they may keep alcohol to go permanent.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (+Dp5p)


Savannah's been way ahead of the curve. We've had "travelers" forever. You can walk around town anywhere with an adult beverage, as long as it's not in a glass container.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (ptqGC)

425 Until it can be proven that Biden inserted Sidney Blumenthal's head into Reade's rectum, this remains a slow yawn. It's known that you've not made the "indignant-well-after-the-fact" jilted climber set until Blumenthal's face has been buried past the second muscle.

Posted by: Zod at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (XzT/D)

426 I cant remember who it was. But this isn't like that women who came out years ago and said some politician performed "unwanted oral sex" on her. I mean frankly, that's a trick I'd like to learn. If you tried 'unwanted oral sex" on most women I've dated, you'd either have brain damage so badly you would eat with a straw for the rest of your life or permanent disfiguration of your face. Take your choice.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (yTBRp)

427 BREAKING: Alito takes on Penn. House Arrest Decree

Happy Last 30 Day!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (Ndje9)

428 >>>Another glorious day at the firm! A day at the firm is like a day on the farm. Every meal is a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!

Posted by: Insomniac


Welcome home

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (+Dp5p)

429
I still find it amazing that Flynn would hire a law firm where Eric Holder was a senior partner.
Posted by: JackStraw

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I find it amazing that he took the interview with the FBI. (to repeat myself)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (G51Gf)

430 if the FBI has exculpatory evidence they withhold, doesn't that mean game over? Or are the rules of discovery different if you're fighting the Feds?
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (7Fj9P)
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The FBI routinely ignores orders, from judges, to hand over any and all exculpatory evidence. Then, when their hand is finally forced, they'll do a document dump that would make the Obama administration proud. Also, they are not about changing the documents.

Sidney Powell caught them and detailed it in "Licensed to Lie" I believe.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (WEBkv)

431 I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.
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Dammit.

Posted by: NC bootleggers at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (pK7cg)

432
I cant remember who it was. But this isn't like that women who came out years ago and said some politician performed "unwanted oral sex" on her.

Lt Gov of Florida??

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (4f9mN)

433 405 394 Ha. I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders.

They've got to be in cups with lids on them, though.


That's fine. I'm building up quite a collection of large McDonald's cups. Fill 'er up!

Posted by: t-bird at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (v+fx/)

434 Chavez has cancer? Fuck. Fuck fuckity fucking fuck.

I don't know what I can do from here, brother, but I'll do it. You have the entire Horde with you. Prayers at full throttle.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (NWiLs)

435 >>>
Savannah's been way ahead of the curve. We've had "travelers" forever. You can walk around town anywhere with an adult beverage, as long as it's not in a glass container.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (ptqGC)


Gorgeous Georgia

Posted by: Braenyard at April 30, 2020 07:29 PM (+Dp5p)

436 Started doing that here few weeks ago. But the alcohol is not mixed in. They give you separate airplane bottle sized liquor to mix when you get home.

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We can't have something that makes so much sense.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:29 PM (L+kF6)

437 But something was promised him and not disclosed to the court. The secret lawyers agreement not to prosecute Flynn's son if Flynn pled.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:08 PM (ZLI7S)

What exactly did they say they were going to prosecute his son for? I've never seen that mentioned.
Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:14 PM (cF8AT)


If one were to believe Flynn charges were pretty much fabrication, then the obvious is this -

We are going to make up shit about your son, file charges and he will go to prison, and you know we will do it because we doing it to you right now.. unless you cop a plea to shit we made up about you. Because we are going to first, fvck Flynn, then we are going to...


Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 30, 2020 07:30 PM (1g7ch)

438 Another glorious day at the firm! A day at the firm is like a day on the farm. Every meal is a banquet! Every paycheck a fortune! Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:24 PM (NWiLs)
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All Hail Galax, I mean, The Firm!

https://tinyurl.com/qf8jsqb

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:30 PM (WEBkv)

439 Chavez,Make sure you look into Keytruda, if its appropriate.Miracle drug

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 07:30 PM (AwPyG)

440 Savannah's been way ahead of the curve. We've had "travelers" forever. You can walk around town anywhere with an adult beverage, as long as it's not in a glass container.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (ptqGC)

That is a big check mark next to Savannah Ga in my Where Will I Retire book.

Posted by: jsg at April 30, 2020 07:30 PM (MpfQD)

441 NC bootleggers

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Like Choctaw Bingo says, still makes whiskey 'cause he still knows how.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:30 PM (L+kF6)

442 "Ha. I just saw that NC is considering letting restaurants sell two mixed drinks with to go orders."

So I guess that means I can still drink straight from the bottle at home?

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 30, 2020 07:30 PM (yTBRp)

443
Which is part of the reason prosecutors love plea deals. I don't know the stats off the top of my head, but I'd guess over 90% of the felony cases in the jurisdiction I worked in were either dropped or plead out. Very few cases actually went through the whole trial process
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:20 PM (ZkXld)


If everyone insisted on their Constitutional right to a jury trial, the justice system in the US would grind to a halt in a week.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (mht8P)

444 Juan Williams.

Being paid to make an ass of himself everyday. He sold his soul for a big paycheck a long time ago.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (ptqGC)

445 Savannah's been way ahead of the curve. We've had "travelers" forever. You can walk around town anywhere with an adult beverage, as long as it's not in a glass container.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:27 PM (ptqGC)

1000X yes, to-go cups is one of the great things about Savannah. I was in a bar in PA a few years ago and asked for a to-go cup, the guy looked at me and said, "Sorry, can't do that in this state. You must be from Savannah."

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (nu45M)

446 So f'n tired of being told by a bunch of petty politicians and bureaucrats what I can or can't do.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (EgshT)

447 Hiring C&B doesn't surprise me. High-profile politicos of both parties are often partners in all the prestige firms. Some have more a one-party coloration.

But C&B, Williams & Connolly, those places usually had people of varying reputation with both colorations. For one gig I was housed in the offices of a firm led by a pretty famous former senator, there were former Hill types of all kinds there.

I was completely separate, but interacted with them, one time the #2 came to me and asked my advice, as I'd worked in furrin' policy for a long time. He thanked me later and we laughed about it a few times as developments illustrated the wisdom of their decision.

They'd been approached to become reps for one of the more dubious, verging on odious, foreign regimes at the time (not a US enemy, but nasty).

"Not with a 10 foot pole" was my reco.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (El6T/)

448 345 "What exactly did they say they were going to prosecute his son for? I've never seen that mentioned."

Well, since you mention it, exactly WTF did Flynn supposedly lie about in talking to Ambassador Kristallnacht?

Posted by: Ray Van Dune at April 30, 2020 07:32 PM (DjrvG)

449 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

As others have pointed out, miracles do happen. A few years ago, my mother had 1000-to-1 odds against surviving surgery (according to her surgeon) and she lived long enough to see my first grandchild, who was born in early December. Mom passed in February but was a happy warrior to the end. Every moment counts. God bless and keep you, buddy.
Posted by: troyriser at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (pr6Sg)
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Praying for a miracle, Chavez and prayers for your wife.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 30, 2020 07:32 PM (wiXsO)

450 So I guess that means I can still drink straight from the bottle at home?

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Yeah, I'm too cheap to drink at a restaurant, but I bet it brings in some money.

I hadn't thought about it, but I bet Dave and Busters is absolutely f*cked right now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:32 PM (L+kF6)

451 1000X yes, to-go cups is one of the great things
about Savannah. I was in a bar in PA a few years ago and asked for a
to-go cup, the guy looked at me and said, "Sorry, can't do that in this
state. You must be from Savannah."

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (nu45M)


Lol.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:32 PM (ptqGC)

452 Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:24
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Happy to hear that, Insom. Good for you.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (Dhht7)

453 I find it amazing that he took the interview with the FBI. (to repeat myself)

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (G51Gf)

Sidney Powell was on Liz MacDonald's show. She said he had no idea the interview was about him. He thought it was just a couple of FBI guys just having a meeting with him. And the FBI purposely kept it that way so he wouldn't spook and clam up. He even was giving them a tour around the WH when the 'meeting' was over.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (cF8AT)

454 Chavez,Make sure you look into Keytruda, if its appropriate.Miracle drug
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Is that the veterinary drug used to de-worm dogs? I've read some crazy shit about that if it's the same.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (7Fj9P)

455 Chavez, I hope all gets better.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (DY3v8)

456 What about the DOJ failing to turn over Brady evidence? Apparently it's not an automatic dismissal, but it seems to me that while you weren't drunk or coerced, you weren't aware of things you were entitled to be aware of when you submitted your plea.

All this said, I'm not sure why a man of such sophistication and experience agreed to the FBI interview in the first place. I'd like to think I also wouldn't have pled guilty to a federal felony I didn't commit.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:26 PM (G51Gf)

Again, it's ludicrously hard to walk back a guilty plea.

As for talking to the FBI? I certainly wouldn't have. But as I understand it, Flynn was under the impression it was some kind of routine counter intelligence stuff. Like "welcome to working for the government, we're just crossing t's and dotting i's" and had no idea he was the subject of a criminal investigation.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (ZkXld)

457 I have great sympathy for Gen. Flynn. But, he made bad decisions at the beginning. He failed to realize that he was a target from the minute he accepted the NSC job. He managed to get on the wrong side of Mike Pence. He talked to the FBI without legal advice - nobody in the WH does that - nobody. He didn't vet the law firm he hired. Did he, or somebody else pay their bills? We will never know. Who really knows what the hell he was up to with the Turks. Whatever it was, he should never have involved his son in it.

I seem to remember when this first started that the judge asked him whether he wanted to withdraw his plea and, with Powell standing there, he said no.

On the other hand, the judge has delayed this time and again. There could be enough misconduct here for the judge to dismiss, or sentence him to a one dollar fine or something. who knows.

One thing is for sure. Everybody on the prosecution side should be disbarred and the FBI agents prosecuted.

Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (9X60i)

458 The first clue that the judges (or many of them) are corrupt came in the hillary email case, where immunity was given to all witnesses, who then took the 5th, and the presiding judge thought that was fine, and then sealed all the records.(the whole point of immunity is you can't then take the 5th, and records are sealed only in very rare circumstances.)
Posted by: artemis


Second clue was the FISA Court judge being lied to and when it was determined, didn't do shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (2VADA)

459 I am told no medication can be used off label.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:34 PM (L+kF6)

460 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.
Posted by: chavez the hugo
........

I'm sure you've gone over all the possible alternative treatments.. but Immunotherapy? They're doing a lot with it these days.

In any case,
I have you and your family in my prayers.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 30, 2020 07:35 PM (CjFDo)

461 If everyone insisted on their Constitutional right to a jury trial, the justice system in the US would grind to a halt in a week.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (mht8P)


Sure would!

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:35 PM (ZkXld)

462 One thing is for sure. Everybody on the prosecution side should be disbarred and the FBI agents prosecuted.
Posted by: VADM Collingwood RN - holding Nelson's rum ration at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (9X60i)
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Minor quibble: I prefer "persecuted" over "prosecuted."

Thanks.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (WEBkv)

463 @457
Again, the only thing that makes sense to me is that this was some sort of a sting operation by Flynn from the start.He can't be as dumb as he's acted throughout this.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (AwPyG)

464 dang Chavez that's rough. My problems ain't a hill of beans compared to that. We're all pulling for you.

Posted by: freaked at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (Tnijr)

465 >>One thing is for sure. Everybody on the prosecution side should be disbarred and the FBI agents prosecuted.

Not just the agents, the prosecutors and the entire FBI chain of command that was involved in this case. The material released to day indicates that the "7th floor" was involved. That's Director level, Comey.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)

466 Good Luck Mr. the hugo

Posted by: DaveA at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (FhXTo)

467 John Roberts
@johnrobertsFox
@realDonaldTrump
says he has seen intelligence that gives him a high degree of confidence that the coronavirus originated from the Wuhan Institute of Virology though he would not go into detail "I can't say"

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at April 30, 2020 07:37 PM (FIZJX)

468 @460
Keytruda is one of the new immunology drugs. Amazing results

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 07:37 PM (AwPyG)

469 Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:24


Please tell us you are either wearing pants or have pudding cups near by during the calls, then.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 30, 2020 07:37 PM (DMUuz)

470 469 Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:24

Please tell us you are either wearing pants or have pudding cups near by during the calls, then.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 30, 2020 07:37 PM (DMUuz)

No pants.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:37 PM (NWiLs)

471 Minor quibble: I prefer "persecuted" over "prosecuted."

Thanks.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (WEBkv)

Saw a sign posted on a wooded area one time that read "Trespassers Will Be Violated."

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 30, 2020 07:38 PM (nu45M)

472 Maybe we can put Flynn in the stocks for a day. He gets a little razzing but at the end of the day he gets released and we take him out for some beers. True medieval justice.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 30, 2020 07:38 PM (DY3v8)

473 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.
Posted by: chavez the hugo


As others have said, prayers up. If you need us, we're here for you.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 07:38 PM (2VADA)

474 446 So f'n tired of being told by a bunch of petty politicians and bureaucrats what I can or can't do.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (EgshT)

OMG this x1000

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2020 07:38 PM (OzQGF)

475 Again, the only thing that makes sense to me is that this was some sort of a sting operation by Flynn from the start.He can't be as dumb as he's acted throughout this.
Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (AwPyG)

I think he might be.

I mean, most innocent people are pretty dumb when it comes to interacting with police. And lots of guilty people are pretty dumb, too.

"I didn't do anything wrong, I'll talk to the cops."

"I can't believe they charged me! I'll hire a well known law firm, they'll sort all of this out for me."

"I just need to talk to the prosecutor, once he hears my side of the story, he'll say 'sorry, it was all a big misunderstanding...'"

You can see how the "I have nothing to fear if I did nothing wrong" mindset can lead to, what in retrospect looks like, some pretty dumb decisions.

That said, a lot of guilty people talk to the cops, too. So... haha

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (ZkXld)

476 I'm going to make a "trespassers will be defenestrated" sign.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (L+kF6)

477 Anyone here ever do battle with Starlings? My husband is about to go nuclear on their asses and I'm worried he's gonna end up shooting a neighbor! j/k...sorta.

They're the bullies of all the birds and the crap they leave around the pool may require hazmat suits to get rid of.

Any advice?

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (cF8AT)

478 Saw a sign posted on a wooded area one time that read "Trespassers Will Be Violated."
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater


Trespassers will be shot.
Survivors will be shot again.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (2VADA)

479
Flynn was under the impression it was some kind of routine counter intelligence stuff. Like "welcome to working for the government, we're just crossing t's and dotting i's" and had no idea he was the subject of a criminal investigation.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes

======

Tsch. And he believed that? Even when it got to questions about his personal contacts with hostile foreigners?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (G51Gf)

480 Maybe we can put Flynn in the stocks for a day. He gets a little razzing but at the end of the day he gets released and we take him out for some beers. True medieval justice.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 30, 2020 07:38 PM (DY3v
-------------

I like the idea, except we use Comey, Wray, Brennan, etc., as stand-ins and actually go medieval on them.

Oh, and make sure the stocks are facing a gallows.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:40 PM (WEBkv)

481 Jim Jordan needs to switch to decaf. He talks like a frigging machine gun.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:40 PM (ZLI7S)

482 Every conference call a parade, I LOVE the firm!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:24


You remind me of how I felt when I landed my first consulting gig after wasting 19.5 years of my work life at a third rate electric utility. I felt like I was a hippie going to Woodstock every day. Congratulations!

Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:40 PM (y7DUB)

483 This Wuhan lab investigation is gonna be delicious.

Beijing (and their WHO toy) cannot slip out of this. Trump (and others) simply won't/cannot do anything but really get to the bottom of this.

Beijing, of course, simply cannot and will not permit any investigation that gets to the bottom of it. (whether because of bad Bond movie evil machinations, or not - dictatorships simply do not cooperate on things like this, period)

Irresistible force meets immovable object. With all the pressure and down-side (political, diplomatic, trade) - Chi-Nah.

Good times.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:40 PM (El6T/)

484 Tsch. And he believed that? Even when it got to questions about his personal contacts with hostile foreigners?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (G51Gf)

I mean, apparently. I can't explain it.

Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:40 PM (ZkXld)

485 They're the bullies of all the birds and the crap they leave around the pool may require hazmat suits to get rid of.

Any advice?
Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (cF8AT)
-----------

Cats. Three or four good size Tom cats will take care of the problem, I think.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (WEBkv)

486 @475
That's true enough for us mere mortals, Harry, but Flynn is a spy's spy, who already knows who he's dealing with. The whole thing seems very strange.

Posted by: artemis at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (AwPyG)

487 You remind me of how I felt when I landed my first consulting gig after wasting 19.5 years of my work life at a third rate electric utility. I felt like I was a hippie going to Woodstock every day. Congratulations!
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 30, 2020 07:40 PM (y7DUB)

Thanks, man! It really does feel good.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (NWiLs)

488 Chavez has cancer? Fuck. Fuck fuckity fucking fuck.

I don't know what I can do from here, brother, but I'll do it. You have the entire Horde with you. Prayers at full throttle.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:28 PM (NWiLs)


This.

Muthafuckin THIS.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (Zz0t1)

489 >>some kind of routine counter intelligence stuff.
Posted by: Harry Paratestes at April 30, 2020 07:33 PM (ZkXld)

There's no such thing. Flynn isn't very intelligent, but even he saw the Keystone Kops set at ONCIX/NCSC.

Some people are doomed to the consequences of stupidity.

Posted by: Zod at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (XzT/D)

490 Not just the agents, the prosecutors and the entire FBI chain of command that was involved in this case. The material released to day indicates that the "7th floor" was involved. That's Director level, Comey.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 30, 2020 07:36 PM (ZLI7S)

Yeah, remember when he said he "leaves all that to the field agents."? Uh...huh. You lying POS.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (cF8AT)

491
Anyone here ever do battle with Starlings? My husband is about to go
nuclear on their asses and I'm worried he's gonna end up shooting a
neighbor! j/k...sorta.



They're the bullies of all the birds and the crap they leave around the pool may require hazmat suits to get rid of.



Any advice?

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (cF8AT)


Have you tried one of those fake owls? People down here put them on their docks to keep the seagulls and other nitwit birds off their docks and boats.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (ptqGC)

492 477 Anyone here ever do battle with Starlings? My husband is about to go nuclear on their asses and I'm worried he's gonna end up shooting a neighbor! j/k...sorta.

They're the bullies of all the birds and the crap they leave around the pool may require hazmat suits to get rid of.

Any advice?
Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:39 PM (cF8AT)

Flammenwerfer.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (NWiLs)

493 Hey, if we drop the charges, no hard feelings, eh, Mike?

Posted by: The FBI at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (v+fx/)

494 Just found out our fucking dictator Tim Walz extended our lockdown for another #TwoWeeks.

What a fucking piece of shit.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (IYHxL)

495
If I'm not mistaken, Starlings are an imported scourge.

Every single thing bad in the USA came from a Third World Shit-hole.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (4f9mN)

496
Savannah's been way ahead of the curve. We've had "travelers" forever. You can walk around town anywhere with an adult beverage, as long as it's not in a glass container.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


Do they allow plastic straws?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 30, 2020 07:42 PM (aKsyK)

497 Anyone here ever do battle with Starlings? My husband is about to go nuclear on their asses and I'm worried he's gonna end up shooting a neighbor! j/k...sorta.

They're the bullies of all the birds and the crap they leave around the pool may require hazmat suits to get rid of.

Any advice?
Posted by: Tami


Use #9 shot.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 07:42 PM (2VADA)

498 That story about the Michigan capitol is wild...good on them. WOLVERINES !

Posted by: Pliney at April 30, 2020 07:42 PM (nzKWW)

499 Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)

Oh, no.

It seems so fruitless and watery, but - prayers up for you.

I don't know if you're Catholic, but St Peregrine is the patron saint for cancer; he is often twinned with St Jude, the patron of seemingly hopeless causes.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 30, 2020 07:42 PM (2JVJo)

500 If I'm not mistaken, Starlings are an imported scourge.

Every single thing bad in the USA came from a Third World Shit-hole.
Posted by: Soothsayer


European Starlings.


Yep.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (2VADA)

501
Do they allow plastic straws?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 30, 2020 07:42 PM (aKsyK)



Before the shutdown they did. We're a party down with a drinking problem.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (ptqGC)

502 500 If I'm not mistaken, Starlings are an imported scourge.

Every single thing bad in the USA came from a Third World Shit-hole.
Posted by: Soothsayer


European Starlings.


Yep.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (2VADA)

Laden or unladen?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (NWiLs)

503 "Who sent them? I did."

Posted by: James Corney at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (v+fx/)

504

La Nood

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (4f9mN)

505 No matter how low I know the Leftists can go its still a surprise their backing of the WHO.

Posted by: Skip at April 30, 2020 07:43 PM (ZCEU2)

506 If I'm not mistaken, Starlings are an imported scourge.

Every single thing bad in the USA came from a Third World Shit-hole.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (4f9mN)

I saw a TV program about this. Apparently they were imported by some group that loved (I mean LOVED) Shakespeare and wanted to import to the US every bird that was ever mentioned in one of Shakespeare's works.

Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 30, 2020 07:44 PM (nu45M)

507 >>478 Saw a sign posted on a wooded area one time that read "Trespassers Will Be Violated."
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater

From a 1980s-era bar in W. Virginia (where you could watch NCAA Bball for free, or something like it):

"Dog On Roof. No Pissing In The Parking Lot."

Posted by: Zod at April 30, 2020 07:44 PM (XzT/D)

508 I hope chavez wasn't denied medical access because they were only treating COVID patients. Hardly anybody else can get in to see their doctor. I had to do mine on the phone today. I swear if they delayed something he could have benefited from, I will....... not say it.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 30, 2020 07:44 PM (lwiT4)

509 Once again, I will note the facial absurdity of the idea that former senior intel official would under any circumstances attempt to mislead FBI agents about contents of what everyone knows was a monitored call to a foreign target. Of which, he and they know, they would have a recording.

????

Irrelevant now and yeah yeah other wheels turning, but have always wondered by why Flynn wouldn't just stick with denying such an implausible allegation, and to any prosecutorial black-mail just say "see ya in court!".


Posted by: rhomboid at April 30, 2020 07:44 PM (El6T/)

510
f3t5g5yf3q

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 30, 2020 07:45 PM (G51Gf)

511 So f'n tired of being told by a bunch of petty politicians and bureaucrats what I can or can't do.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at April 30, 2020 07:31 PM (EgshT)

OMG this x1000
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 30, 2020 07:38 PM (OzQGF)


It's more than just "petty politicians and bureaucrats." Now it's grocery store owners as well. My local, besides ordering people to stand in line to get in, is now requiring masks.

I am fucking sick to death of this virtue theater. Any store that does not require an imbecilic mask will get my patronage from now on.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 30, 2020 07:45 PM (2JVJo)

512 I have fish crows that keep eating the suet on one of my bird feeders. I used to be able to run them off by yelling and waving my arms.

Then ace did a link about crows recognizing and remembering human faces....and holding grudges.

Every single time I do go out to run them off, they call to each other and a whole gang of them show up. And caw and mock me.

My husband's like, "Get the BB gun." Me, "The Karens will report me."

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:45 PM (ptqGC)

513 as long as most morons are here, here's the scoop. i have lesions in my brain, cancer in my belly, groin, chest, and some other places that i don't recall. it's bad. i'm fucked. that's life. my wife is a mess. keep the faith if you can.
Posted by: chavez the hugo at April 30, 2020 07:05 PM (KP5rU)
------------------------------------
Sorry to hear that. However, they told my wife she had stage-4 cancer in lungs, liver, and pancreas. Post surgery (when they did true biopsy) they said it was only in pancreas and removed it. It's been a year since surgery and she's still here. Prayers up, chavez.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 30, 2020 07:46 PM (Dhht7)

514 I drink at home. Saves a lot of time and money.

Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2020 07:46 PM (XhWtx)

515 Cats. Three or four good size Tom cats will take care of the problem, I think.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (WEBkv)

3 Tom cats and 3 dogs would leave a really big mess!

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:47 PM (cF8AT)

516 >> I'd like to think I also wouldn't have pled guilty to a federal felony I didn't commit.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

When you are out of money you are out of justice.

Posted by: Aviator at April 30, 2020 07:47 PM (0FTCx)

517 Have you tried one of those fake owls? People down here put them on their docks to keep the seagulls and other nitwit birds off their docks and boats.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 30, 2020 07:41 PM (ptqGC)

I looked those up yesterday but people said that once they figure out the owl isn't moving, they get use to it.

I suggested one of those 'raise the roof' guys that you see out front of a grand opening.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:48 PM (cF8AT)

518 284
BUT...Joe is going to let
a person of his choosing, one with an impeccably non-partisan
reputation, review the records for anything relating to Reade's
accusation. Someone like...Bob Mueller. Or any one of the horde of
supposedly apolitical and impeccable reputation people in DC.



(We only need one guess about the results.


i'm guessing joe has a lot of records about yoga and baking cookies.

Posted by: Anachronda at April 30, 2020 07:49 PM (kf5Ci)

519 Forget about it, Jake.

It's Bidentown.

Posted by: I'm Tucker Carlson and I will destroy you at April 30, 2020 07:51 PM (iiT9X)

520 3 Tom cats and 3 dogs would leave a really big mess!
Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:47 PM (cF8AT)
---------------

Hey, everything is a trade-off!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 30, 2020 07:54 PM (WEBkv)

521 Oh, chavez. Such crappy news. Prayers offered, of course for you, and your wife.

Sometimes Blessings are realized when life throws you a curve ball you don't expect. Your eyes are opened to what really matters.

Be Strong, and know that God listens. Prayers ARE heard.

I pray that His will matches what you need most.

Posted by: My life is insanity at April 30, 2020 07:54 PM (tiJzb)

522 >>> Jim Jordan needs to switch to decaf. He talks like a frigging machine gun.
~~~~~

That ward goes to Doug Collins. I'm a NYer and even I can't keep up with him.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 07:56 PM (sGotD)

523 477
Anyone here ever do battle with Starlings? My husband is about to go
nuclear on their asses and I'm worried he's gonna end up shooting a
neighbor! j/k...sorta.

They fly in packs from garden to garden around here, pecking tomatoes. I've found there always seems to be a scout bird that arrives before the pack. When I shot that one, the rest moved on. .177 pellet works fine for me and is quiet.

Posted by: dartist at April 30, 2020 07:56 PM (K22Va)

524 Lol Blake!

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:56 PM (cF8AT)

525 award

Posted by: IrishEi at April 30, 2020 07:56 PM (sGotD)

526 Newsom was supposed to close all state beaches. Instead, he decided that he was only going to close Orange County beaches. Good luck enforcing that since both the Sheriff and the County have said that the Sheriff's Office will not be enforcing any of the state's closure orders.

I hope there are even more people out on the beaches tomorrow.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 30, 2020 07:25 PM (nu45M)

Who does New some have to enforce the order? CHP?

Posted by: Fox2! at April 30, 2020 07:57 PM (jbFVL)

527 They fly in packs from garden to garden around here, pecking tomatoes. I've found there always seems to be a scout bird that arrives before the pack. When I shot that one, the rest moved on. .177 pellet works fine for me and is quiet.

Posted by: dartist at April 30, 2020 07:56 PM (K22Va)

Thanks! I will pass this on to my husband.

Posted by: Tami at April 30, 2020 07:59 PM (cF8AT)

528 IIRC starlings are one of the few birds not protected by the migratory bird act.

Good hunting.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 30, 2020 08:05 PM (L+kF6)

529 Was Mona Charen one of the coverup lackeys?

Posted by: Josh Brolin's Blistered Taint at April 30, 2020 08:08 PM (HBD09)

530 It takes four and twenty starlings to screw a lightbulb.

Posted by: Eromero at April 30, 2020 08:17 PM (XhWtx)

531 Where is Sandy the burglar when you need him?

Posted by: Buffalobob at May 01, 2020 01:36 AM (RNoZj)

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