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Judges Rule Against Tyrannical Shutdown Orders in Illinois and Virginia

In Illinois:

Clay County Circuit Court Judge Michael McHaney ruled against Pritzker's executive order, granting a restraining order to temporarily block the stay-at-home restrictions set to take effect Friday, according to local reports.

"We are certainly going to act in a swift action to have this ruling overturned," Pritzker said in his daily coronavirus press briefing Monday.

The ruling comes after Republican State Rep. Darren Bailey of Xenia filed a lawsuit in Clay County Circuit Court claiming Pritzker has exceeded his authority and is violating the civil rights of the state’s residents. Pritzker on Thursday extended his stay-at-home order through May 30 as the highly contagious COVID-19 continued to infect thousands in the state.

"Enough is enough!" Bailey said in a statement. "I filed this lawsuit on behalf of myself and my constituents who are ready to go back to work and resume a normal life."

A judge has also halted Governor Blackface's unconstitutional order to shut down gun ranges:

A circuit court judge in Lynchburg, Virginia has overturned a portion of Gov. Ralph Northam’s executive order that declared indoor gun ranges “places of amusement” that are non-essential and must shut down during his state of emergency. Judge F. Patrick Yeatts declared in an order on Monday that Northam's actions are likely to have exceeded his constitutional authority, and declared that the portion of the governor’s executive order on essential businesses that deals with indoor ranges not be enforced while the litigation continues.

Yeatts noted in his decision that the Virginia state constitution declares that “the body of the people, trained to arms is the proper, natural safe defense of a free state.” Since that is the case, clearly the right to bear arms includes the right to train with them. Since gun ranges provide a place where that training can take place, they are protected under the right to keep and bear arms.

Meanwhile, the elites fret about "quarantine fatigue" as the peasants begin ignoring unjust laws and petty tyrannies.

Researchers tracking smartphone data say they recently made a disturbing discovery: For the first time since states began implementing stay-at-home orders in mid-March to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus, Americans are staying home less.

The nationwide shift during the week of April 13 was relatively slight. However, any loss of momentum, particularly when stay-in-place orders remain in effect across most of the country, has some public health experts worried about "quarantine fatigue." Any increase in travel, they say, is premature when staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus until widespread testing and contact tracing become available.


"We saw something we hoped wasn't happening, but it's there," said Lei Zhang, lead researcher and director of the Maryland Transportation Institute at the University of Maryland. "It seems collectively we're getting a little tired. It looks like people are loosening up on their own to travel more."

The daily press conference was supposed to start at 5pm.

Posted by: Ace at 05:28 PM




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1 Suck it all you Karens

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at April 27, 2020 05:29 PM (zUdXR)

2 not first but a win for IL

Posted by: IP at April 27, 2020 05:29 PM (CTv2h)

3 First!!

Posted by: Jmel at April 27, 2020 05:29 PM (OeWgo)

4 Illinois is a lost cause

Posted by: DitkaCA at April 27, 2020 05:29 PM (kVjCi)

5 We're fed up and not gonna take it anymore!!

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at April 27, 2020 05:30 PM (zUdXR)

6 I nooded

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at April 27, 2020 05:30 PM (zUdXR)

7 Top 20?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 05:31 PM (zKTOG)

8 Top 10, even better!

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 05:31 PM (zKTOG)

9 Fuck You Judgette Hildago

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:31 PM (JFO2v)

10 and so it begins

Posted by: that guy that always thinks its begining at April 27, 2020 05:32 PM (DA2i0)

11 I think when the dam breaks, it's gonna blow big time. Peeps gonna get back to living, especially with spring's arrival

Posted by: zeera Moron Author at April 27, 2020 05:32 PM (zUdXR)

12 Expect DJT to retool the the message.

Posted by: azalea city at April 27, 2020 05:32 PM (WX+x0)

13 The revolts have begun, hopefully growing.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:32 PM (ZCEU2)

14 "Researchers tracking smartphone data " is a pretty understated way to announce that big brother can just casually know where all of you are, all the time.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (yL25O)

15 willowed:

NV and CO have apparently joined the WA-OR-CA Western states pact.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (Ez6QX)

16 Meanwhile San Francisco has shutdown until June.

Works for me.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

17 Anecdata - I go out every 2-3 days for essentials.

I was out Saturday - it was about 75% of normal, looked like.

This is Northern Virginia.

The US is going to reopen, and it will be ahead of whatever the government thinks is a good time.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (ZfRYq)

18 The American people have been arrested without their Miranda rights being read to them. It's time to spring them from jail.

Posted by: Decaf at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (xarPm)

19 Judgette Hildago is our AOC with power. I hear that tonight she is announcing the county standard county tampon and condom.

I hoping for the ultimate sports tampon and ribbed for his pleasure condom.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (JFO2v)

20 I hope PDT comes out swinging!

Posted by: Jmel at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (OeWgo)

21 Stein brought up a good point filling in for Rush today.

Three months into this and we literally know nothing about this virus or aren't being told about it.
What it is, what they thought it was, etc.

It's all being made so very, very opaque, intentionally so.

Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (RVqby)

22 16 Meanwhile San Francisco has shutdown until June.

Works for me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

...

California would open immediately if Trump suggested they stay closed longer.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (yL25O)

23 "until widespread testing and contact tracing become available" Oh is that what we're waiting for? I still remember "Flatten the Curve"

Posted by: drerbrerard at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (EA1BR)

24 from last thread- sorry


>Huh, just saw that Colorado and Nevada joined the CA-WA-OR Western states pact.
Posted by: Jordan61


to do what?

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:35 PM (iTXRQ)

25 We have a mexican Karen. Karina maybe?

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:35 PM (JFO2v)

26 saw it first hand this weekend. The Salt River parking lots were all gated and had caution tape all over the place. People said eff this and parked on the shoulder for miles to go hit the river. I counted over 130 cars.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 27, 2020 05:35 PM (DjiZK)

27 No heroic judges in NJ to stop Murph the Smurph

Posted by: CN at April 27, 2020 05:35 PM (ONvIw)

28 Even CA's ditz nothing governor Newsom left ranges alone, in fact made a jaw-droppingly normal statement about not closing gun stores, when he announced his ukazes in March. Northam is really a scary, loathsome, alien POS.

And my outdoor range is re-opening for use by range officers, with a few Pandemic Theater frills, nothing important.

General re-opening uncertain ...... here's one where I want the board to dally and think real hard, take their time .... because a full-time private range appeals to me. A lot of trigger time to catch up on.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:35 PM (El6T/)

29 Of course Jelly Belly doesn't like it. And it is unconstitutional.

Posted by: Gem at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (kIHih)

30 NV and CO have apparently joined the WA-OR-CA Western states pact.

Interstate compacts that reduce the power of the Federal government require Congressional approval.

Good luck with that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (I2/tG)

31 All in this together tripe also wore thin very quickly when people realised that it's one thing to be confined to a sprawling estate and quite another when it's a studio apartment.

Posted by: Decaf at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (xarPm)

32 ok the presser is outside today

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (iTXRQ)

33 23 "until widespread testing and contact tracing become available" Oh is that what we're waiting for? I still remember "Flatten the Curve"
Posted by: drerbrerard at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (EA1BR)

...

We're stuck in stupid land where the average person can sort of understand flattening the curve but has no concept of the area under the curve.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (yL25O)

34 Oh, and money wants to reopen. TSLA was $900 pre-COVID. It got smashed down to about $480 a couple of weeks ago. It closed at $798 today.

Tesla.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (ZfRYq)

35 Let my peoples go
Let my peoples go

www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkDEGKe6Wto

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (ix2vz)

36 to do what?
Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:35 PM (iTXRQ)

Coordinate opening their states, I guess.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 05:36 PM (Ez6QX)

37 I'm so gratified that Gov. Abbott here in Texas has overridden any County Judges that were trying to keep things closed longer.

its gonna be real hard on the Governors in places like Wisconsin and California, when their people can say "Look at Texas, they're open and nothings happening."

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (Kpl3J)

38 Every business is essential to someone. Unequal application of the law.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (zy+gb)

39 Woo-hoooo Judge! Do you think it will stand??

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (lwiT4)

40 Fvck that fat fvck Pritzker. Swears he won't put the money they stole on the backs of IL tax payers. Pissin here boss.

Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (K22Va)

41 I think when the dam breaks, it's gonna blow big time. Peeps gonna get back to living, especially with spring's arrival

Once the good weather is here to stay everyone, except the Karens, are going to say fuck it and start trying to live a normal life again. Karens are gonna Karen and I could not care less. Stay inside and be miserable.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (dUJdY)

42 22 16 Meanwhile San Francisco has shutdown until June.

Works for me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (ZLI7S)

...

California would open immediately if Trump suggested they stay closed longer.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (yL25O)

******

Heh.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (Ae67h)

43 Prager said today the whole LA area is shut down, 10s of millions out of work.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (ZCEU2)

44 its gonna be real hard on the Governors in places
like Wisconsin and California, when their people can say "Look at Texas,
they're open and nothings happening."

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (Kpl3J)



From your lips....

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (lwiT4)

45 NV and CO have apparently joined the WA-OR-CA Western states pact.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 05:33 PM (Ez6QX)


What is this pact? Knowing our state legislature, it's likely to involve trampling our rights.

Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (ouBhA)

46 you know this is where I find I went wrong not having a nice big boat with room for a huge kitchen, huge amounts of food, hooker or two.

have to get a boat before wuhancovid20

Posted by: not so at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (HALdu)

47 This completely makes sense - all a permitted business needs to do is take any shut down orders from the local police to the local judge - there the judge will ask the DA what statute is being involved to revoke, even temporarily, the business owners permit to operate, and at this point every local DA, every fucking one, is stuck - because emergency orders from the governor are limited by the statutes they involve and are narrow, very narrow in scope - typically surrounding the national guard and safety issues as far as marine and road access...and then it stops.

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (32YRo)

48 The Donald.

Posted by: azalea city at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (WX+x0)

49 In other judgy newz, SCOTUS goes along with NY scam, drops 2A case they'd agree to hear - cuz NY rescinded the law.

Pretty cool gambit there (anybody know when else this has happened, this way?).

As if any sentient being with even a trace of understanding of the constitution present anywhere in the SCOTUS or federal judiciary needed to have it confirmed that there has been and continues to be a laughably obvious de facto suspension of the constitution WRT the 2nd.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (El6T/)

50 Out in tinfoil hat land, I'm hearing Trump has also told the WHO and Bill/Melinda Gates to shove their vaccine up their butts

Posted by: steve at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (TTy55)

51 > Of course Jelly Belly doesn't like it. And it is unconstitutional.

That guy looks like the Pillsbury Doughboy's alcoholic child molester uncle.

Illinois always has to top itself when it comes to governors, doesn't it?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (mNq/0)

52 I'm glad I live in Georgia.

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (Lhcx9)

53 37 I'm so gratified that Gov. Abbott here in Texas has overridden any County Judges that were trying to keep things closed longer.

its gonna be real hard on the Governors in places like Wisconsin and California, when their people can say "Look at Texas, they're open and nothings happening."
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (Kpl3J)

He told Judgette Hildago come and take it

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (JFO2v)

54 Once the good weather is here to stay everyone, except the Karens, are going to say fuck it and start trying to live a normal life again. Karens are gonna Karen and I could not care less. Stay inside and be miserable.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (dUJdY)


What did people from Korea every do to you? That seems harsh!

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (ZfRYq)

55 Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:32 PM (ZCEU2)

I'm going to one in Trenton tomorrow. Going to wear my clergy collar because I think the Bill of Rights are rights granted us by God, so if you see an elderly short haired plump woman in a clergy collar hauled off that would be me. I don't expect to go to jail-really-but the newspeole might interview me if they see my collar. I will not give my last name or my church because I will not be there in my official capacity as the pastor of the church which I serve. They didn't send me. They don't know I'm going although most of them I've talked to against this lockdown..


Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (bW1Yb)

56
Any increase in travel, they say, is premature when staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus until widespread testing and contact tracing become available.


Any mamby-pamby who wants to stat home cosseted with their wubbie is welcome to do so. Leave the rest of us the fuck alone.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (pNxlR)

57 ok the presser is outside today

I hope someone from the press gets stung by a bee. I don't really care who. They all suck anyway.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (dUJdY)

58 15 I call the NY NJ CT governors pact A Confederacy of Dunces

Posted by: Regular joe at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (6/uwW)

59 "until widespread testing and contact tracing become available" Oh is that what we're waiting for? I still remember "Flatten the Curve"
Posted by: drerbrerard at April 27, 2020 05:34 PM (EA1BR)

----------------

Moving goalposts is the only game in town.

Posted by: Decaf at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (xarPm)

60 Trump's on.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (Dhht7)

61 I've already had enough. Set my teens free last Thursday. It's all bullshit.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (87EdW)

62 ok he's wearing The Tie

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (iTXRQ)

63 52 I'm glad I live in Georgia.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (Lhcx9)


What does your new tattoo look like?

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (ZfRYq)

64 The daily press conference was supposed to start at 5pm.
He bumped it. It probably had nothing to do with Inslee announcing his for 2:30 PDT, because WA is a political backwater for retards and doofuses.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (KnJdm)

65 >>"We saw something we hoped wasn't happening, but it's there," said Lei Zhang. . . "It seems collectively we're getting a little tired. It looks like people are loosening up on their own to travel more."


Lei Zhang. . [won't say it]

Also: yeah, we're going out and it looks like we need to leave our phones behind so you can't freakin' track us.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (bDqIh)

66 Any increase in travel, they say, is premature when staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus until widespread testing and contact tracing become available

how do they know this? I don't think having the entire well population under house arrest is working well, at all.

seems like the vulnerable population was still vulnerable, and in fact died scared and alone, instead of being cared for by their family members, due to the lockdowns.

we've been forcibly separated from each other, which WEAKENS us, not only physically (harms immunity to be shut indoors and sedentary) but emotionally and mentally (can't commiserate with each other or connect or talk even).

this whole thing stinks to high heaven. the lockdowns were a drastic, terrible method. I don't even think they WORKED - at least not for viral mitigation. I guess they worked as a psy op.

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (j9HX3)

67 Governor Newsom has appointed Tom Steyer to co-chair a task force in California that will focus on getting the economy up and running again.

Before California can reopen, it will need to ban the internal combustion engine.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (I2/tG)

68 Now we just have to brace for the View of Karens when the inevitable temporary spike in cases occur.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (zy+gb)

69 has some public health experts worried about "quarantine fatigue."
_______________

They should be worrying about what comes after "quarantine fatigue." And that is "quarantine outrage."

And it's coming. Soon.

We are not your damn subjects. We are free people. And free people will not remain quarantined.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (k4dH2)

70 I was whining (correctly) about this a while back -

The curve-flattening manipulation of hospitalizations (that's what it was, and it made sense within its own premises) has clearly worked - or just never happened, we might never really know - so WTF is the current strategery?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (El6T/)

71 And considering that people are calling with death threats to the Lutheran pastor who has 10 people in his church, there would be some nutcase calling me simply for showing up.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (bW1Yb)

72 Has anyone else noticed that almost nobody wears a mask at these White House pressers? Does the White House have some magic protection from the virus?

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (ZLI7S)

73 What is this pact? Knowing our state legislature, it's likely to involve trampling our rights.
Posted by: Emmie at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (ouBhA)

Emmie, found this at US News & World Report:

"According to Inslee's office, members of the pact must agree to three shared principles, which include putting residents' health first, using health outcomes and science to guide decisions, and working with local communities to see what's happening on the ground in their states.

The pact has four goals: protecting vulnerable populations, ensuring an ability to care for those who may become infected, mitigating non-direct COVID-19 health impacts (especially on disadvantaged communities), and ensuring a lifting of any rules includes the development of a system for testing, tracking and isolating."

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (Ez6QX)

74 Governor Newsom has appointed Tom Steyer to co-chair a task force in California that will focus on getting the economy up and running again.

Before California can reopen, it will need to ban the internal combustion engine.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (I2/tG)

And deblasio hired his wife and the Mayor of dc hired susan rice...what a cluster fuck

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (85Gof)

75 Every business is essential to someone. Unequal application of the law.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 27, 2020 05:37 PM (zy+gb)



Yes.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (lwiT4)

76 I keep thinking of the citizens getting pissed off in Civilization and your whole city would turn red and play that angry people noise.


I kept making more factories for my population to work in but they still rioted.


Ungrateful little shits.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (+xeiL)

77 70 I was whining (correctly) about this a while back -

The curve-flattening manipulation of hospitalizations (that's what it was, and it made sense within its own premises) has clearly worked - or just never happened, we might never really know - so WTF is the current strategery?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (El6T/)

To teach you to OBEY

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (JFO2v)

78 64 The daily press conference was supposed to start at 5pm.
He bumped it. It probably had nothing to do with Inslee announcing his for 2:30 PDT, because WA is a political backwater for retards and doofuses.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (KnJdm)

LOL

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (Ez6QX)

79 Here in Central Commiefornia, people are doing a lot.
Went to Lowe's to pick up a few things to finish a project. Went there at 7 am opening Sunday morning. Parking lot was full, the store packed.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (vCA4F)

80 Trump live stream now.

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (Lhcx9)

81 Does the White House have some magic protection from the virus?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (ZLI7S)

They eat it up, and spit it out

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 05:41 PM (85Gof)

82 O/T

I can't stand watching Juan Williams. It's not just that he's so ignorant, it's that he is so predictable. Any question he is asked, he feels compelled to say how bad our president is. He has it down to an art form. Obviously CNN has no interest in him and neither does MSNBC, so fox must have lower standards.

Posted by: Chillin the most at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (lonOK)

83 Ventilators. Incredible Ventilators.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (lwiT4)

84 Fool, all people, some people, time. A. Lincoln. See also: the Emperor's naked butt.

When enough time goes by, things built on convincing people of things they don't see will always change.

Suck it leftist thugs. You are nothing but a bunch of control freaks going into meltdown because you don't actually have control. So you make idiotic rules for everyone else. People are figureing out that living with a deadly virus is still better than living with you.

Posted by: jc at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (PuMKG)

85 Cool. Can we do Michigan now?

Want to see that scrunt get slammed.

Posted by: Mike Stevenson at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (hczC1)

86 It's not safe to get a haircut in Texas until May 18th!!!!

You can eat in a quarter-full restaurant before then (BUT ONLY A QUARTER FULL, 33% WOULD UNLEASH A PANDEMIC), but no haircuts for another 17 days and then it will be OK.

Jesus Christ, this is so stupid.

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (k3msl)

87 I think it's silly though to require a mask ro be at a state park as Abbott said.

You're outside for Chrissake. And limit 5 people together, Sheesh.

I'm just disgusted.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (zKTOG)

88 Juan is token.

Posted by: azalea city at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (WX+x0)

89 Be nice when they unlock the fucking restrooms at the boat ramps here. People are tired of pissing on the ground.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (o2MD2)

90 Politicians spend money to be the governor of IL. That should tell you that there's a grift happening, because you couldn't give an honest person that job for any salary.

Posted by: IP at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (CTv2h)

91 Trump, no.

The "slow the spread" strategy might have worked, but it's in the past tense.

What's the current strategy? Testing and contact tracing are containment tactics. Containment, possibly 5 months into spread of a pathogen?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (El6T/)

92 Researchers tracking smartphone data say they recently made a disturbing discovery: For the first time since states began implementing stay-at-home orders in mid-March to limit the spread of the novel coronavirus, Americans are staying home less.

You can't put everything off forever. I've been putting off a trip to the hardware store, myself, but at some point I can put it off no longer.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (wGeit)

93 Essential

Non Essential

Today jobs

Tomorrow lives

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (JFO2v)

94 Ventilators. Incredible Ventilators.

Big beautiful ventilators

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (5bxa0)

95 Ventilators!!

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (El6T/)

96 Bars still closed though. Damn it all.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (vCA4F)

97 Fen lots of luck to you.

On good news I think all my fellow employees are back to work, seems very soon if not already construction jobs can continue.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (ZCEU2)

98 Has TX governor lifted his quarantine off travelers from CA, OR, WA, MI, NJ, NY, and LA?

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (ix2vz)

99 Ha, ha, get fucked, Pritzker.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (kOpft)

100 Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:38 PM (El6T/)

...

That's infuriating.

The left can play motte and bailely with 2nd amendment restrictions and constantly test the waters to see if anyone is going to back a case all the way to SCOTUS. They get to keep all the incremental gains that stick and never lose ground.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (yL25O)

101 >>Three months into this and we literally know nothing about this virus or aren't being told about it.
What it is, what they thought it was, etc.


How about a demographic breakdown of the ones who've died? Besides the race-baiting, of course.

Because I'm thinking if they let out that the biggest numbers are from, say, nursing homes or subway regulars -- characteristics that make it clear that someone in a rural red state needn't shelter over -- they lose the power to keep us under near house arrest.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (bDqIh)

102 This ENTIRE lockdown has been completely and OBVIOUSLY unconstitutional.

Weird how "obvious" plays absolutely no part in the legal system.

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (68b38)

103 Seth
setal
Sethalahhai

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (ix2vz)

104 staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus
_____________________

That's a theory. A theory that has not been proven accurate to date.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (k4dH2)

105 Take a bow.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (ix2vz)

106 Fuck Polis. I am sure this is against the state constitution. He can't say that our opening is now dependent on 4 other states opening at the same time.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (r+sAi)

107 According to Inslee's office, members of the pact must agree to three shared principles, which include putting residents' health first, using health outcomes and science to guide decisions, and working with local communities to see what's happening on the ground in their states.

These people are so fucking transparent. If you disagree with them, they will label you anti-science.


Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (ZfRYq)

108 Why are experts so incredibly wrong so much the time?

Posted by: Minuteman at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (cxylv)

109 Guv Pritz was fuming at his presser. Bad day for him.

Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs. Judge puts the kibosh on his lock-down. AG Barr is coming after him and other over-reaching guvs.

How glorious!

Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (L3Rsz)

110 > The curve-flattening manipulation of hospitalizations (that's what it was, and it made sense within its own premises) has clearly worked

Yep, it has.

Other than a very few places (NY/NJ) the hospital system was never overwhelmed, nor was it in any danger of being overwhelmed.

My state and city are back open as of today. IF there's a massive upsurge in cases, they'll lock it back down, but I don't expect that to happen.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (mNq/0)

111 Every ventilator produced should be shipped out through Cuomo's ass.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (ZCEU2)

112 86 It's not safe to get a haircut in Texas until May 18th!!!!

You can eat in a quarter-full restaurant before then (BUT ONLY A QUARTER FULL, 33% WOULD UNLEASH A PANDEMIC), but no haircuts for another 17 days and then it will be OK.

Jesus Christ, this is so stupid.
Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (k3msl)

majic fucking haircut day

like getting out of high school and being able to drink

so sorry

Karens changed that rule too

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (JFO2v)

113 Come and make us

Posted by: x at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (nFwvY)

114 104 staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus
_____________________

That's a theory. A theory that has not been proven accurate to date.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (k4dH2)


It breaks the chain. It will have no where to go and no way to get there.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (ix2vz)

115 Celebrities Spell Out 'We're All In This Together' With Their Yachts

https://preview.tinyurl.com/yazz8d6k

Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (DTX3h)

116 Let's see - the weather starts getting better and people start going outside more and moving around. What genius could have predicted such a thing?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. LePetomaine Wants Your Harumph at The Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (0QYMt)

117
How about a demographic breakdown of the ones who've died? Besides the race-baiting, of course.

Because I'm thinking if they let out that the biggest numbers are from, say, nursing homes or subway regulars -- characteristics that make it clear that someone in a rural red state needn't shelter over -- they lose the power to keep us under near house arrest.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (bDqIh)


From what data I have seen on it, about 85% of fatalities are people more than 70yo.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (ZfRYq)

118 I mosied over to my local basketball court yesterday in the glorious 'burbs--based on Little Lord Fatleroy's order in IL, someone screwed 2x4s thru the basketball hoops.

You know what the said thing is? Someone in the local government ordered another human being to either get on a ladder or cherry picker to do this, and that human being complied.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (DY3v8)

119 94 Ventilators. Incredible Ventilators.

Big beautiful ventilators
Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 05:42 PM (5bxa0)

...

You know, I just learned about these things, having really not known much.

Isn't the survival rate on ventilators abysmal? And they tend to leave lasting damage?

I'm kind a thinking I want to have a "do not ventilate" tattoo now.

And I really don't understand the focus on a last-ditch medical technology with, if I understand correctly, a pretty awful "success" rate.

Posted by: TexasDan at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (yL25O)

120 My country for a ventilator....

Geeze... he really needs to get off that platform. We're now at the point where nobody gives a shit.

- UNLESS, you're going to sell the excess to CHINA for a million a pop.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Montani Semper Liberi at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (3H9h1)

121 Will repeat my question for knowledgeable lurkers: is there any solid science behind the somewhat suspect and breezy CDC current line about C-19 primarily being transmitted through droplets of infected people's breath?

Have they done even emergency quickie research? Or just going off typical ILI characteristics?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (El6T/)

122 >>Juan is token.

Juan is asshoe.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (ZLI7S)

123 Redefining Chutzpah:

China's Official Arab Language TV Rebukes Western Media: Your Job Is to Present the Truth, Not to Serve as a Political Weapon Aimed at Distorting China's Image

Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (I2/tG)

124 Pritzker talking about common sense. Pretty comical.

Posted by: ruralbob at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (JmrPi)

125 That guy looks like chubbier Jason Bateman.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (ufFY8)

126 More and more, local businesses will take shut down orders to court, and every local DA and Asst. DA will be made to site the statute...some will site safety, but that requires evidence that the local establishment has violated "on the book" safety violations, or they will attempt to site "the Governor's emergency powers" which are severely limited in this, if they have any tangential bearing at all...no one is going to lose to mandatory shut down unless they just want to, if they have the time, money, or inclination to take this to the local magistrate, they should win...

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (32YRo)

127 So I just asked my wife if essential vs nonessential was a test to see who the state could kill at will?

she was not happy

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (JFO2v)

128 Citizens of Wisconsin and Michigan need to file suits against their communist leadership.
It works!

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (Lhcx9)

129 States can't enter compacts with other states without congressional approval.

Posted by: Minuteman at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (cxylv)

130 Grandsons in Spokane are making noises bout leaving the state for Idaho or Montana. All are in their teens. Go for it.

Posted by: azalea city at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (WX+x0)

131 I'm curious as to the extent McHaney ruling against Pritzker is based on the specifics of the executive order itself and how much is based on her authority to issue it. That is, is what she's directing unconstitutional or is the problem that she's infringed on the legislature's authority to make law?

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (wGeit)

132 Guv Pritz was fuming at his presser. Bad day for him.



I missed that - Did he explode? Cuz I would like to see him explode.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (lwiT4)

133 Fear is animating some people to demand longer stay at home orders and Pain is animating some people to demand we open and defy stay at home orders.
Fear is a Demotivator. Pain is a motivator.
In the end those in Pain will win out as they're actions are driven to stop the pain as opposed to those who hiding in comfort.

Posted by: Spiff the Spaceman at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (+tUWj)

134 I keep waiting for some enterprising bar owner to open a good ole time speakeasy...I'd be spending some money there for sure.

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (nzKWW)

135 109 Guv Pritz was fuming at his presser. Bad day for him.

Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs. Judge puts the kibosh on his lock-down. AG Barr is coming after him and other over-reaching guvs.

How glorious!

Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (L3Rsz)


Happy days are here again.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (ix2vz)

136 My state and city are back open as of today. IF
there's a massive upsurge in cases, they'll lock it back down, but I
don't expect that to happen.





Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (mNq/0)

If any one of you sonsabitches so much as thinks about sneezing after the opening, it's a beat down.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (KnJdm)

137
Also: yeah, we're going out and it looks like we need to leave our phones behind so you can't freakin' track us.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 05:39 PM (bDqIh)

I just got a Faraday bag, hope it works as intended.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (zKTOG)

138 123 Redefining Chutzpah:

China's Official Arab Language TV Rebukes Western Media: Your Job Is to Present the Truth, Not to Serve as a Political Weapon Aimed at Distorting China's Image
Posted by: The ARC of History! at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (I2/tG)


It's not hard to see where people could get the idea the media isn't interested in presenting truth.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (wGeit)

139 My wife has been back to work for several days now. Her dentist is seeing a reduced amount of cases. The schedule is filling up fast and will be expanding to see more quickly.

Not just emergencies either.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (0OmEj)

140 Howard Walowitz is working on a smaller more efficient test kit.

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (E7vND)

141 Citizens of Wisconsin and Michigan need to file suits against their communist leadership.

It works!

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (Lhcx9)


I think our state legislature is making sounds about suing the governor. I don't know the status of that.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (lwiT4)

142 Governor Creosote.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (DY3v8)

143 When are these "experts" going to admit they were wrong? We were told hospitals would be overwhelmed. They weren't. We were told millions could die. They didn't. Every time there is something that helps people recover, we are told it's all wrong. Staying at home does nothing and is only possble due to the people out working.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (Lqy/e)

144 like getting out of high school and being able to drink

so sorry

Karens changed that rule too
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS

what a day. had my ID ready for the quick draw and the clerk didn't even card me.

Posted by: x at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (nFwvY)

145 131 I'm curious as to the extent McHaney ruling against Pritzker is based on the specifics of the executive order itself and how much is based on her authority to issue it. That is, is what she's directing unconstitutional or is the problem that she's infringed on the legislature's authority to make law?
Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (wGeit)


Him. Whatever.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (wGeit)

146 Dims trying to turn your own homes into Re - education Camps.

Silly square watermelons.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (S3yM7)

147 It's nice that more more people are getting tired of listening to Chicken Little 'Scientist' Falsie Scarf whose crap models predictions haven't been even close to really happening.
Also Rudy found out Falsie was head of HIN when it gave China 3.7 million to work on viruses.

Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (N0If5)

148
Other than a very few places (NY/NJ) the hospital system was never overwhelmed, nor was it in any danger of being overwhelmed.


It is my understanding that neither NY nor NJ has needed the additional bed capacity built for Covid. Specifically, Javits and Comfort never got more than a handful of cases. They were still wise to build that capacity, and I'm thrilled it wasn't needed.

Posted by: pep at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (T6t7i)

149 There's a strip club offering take outs.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (ix2vz)

150 Besides being an infanticidal manic masquerading as a pediatrician, Governor Coonman Northam is a Constitutional illiterate and tyrant!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (jnM20)

151 I said I'd give him 2 minutes to talk about the only 2 things I want to hear:

1. Reopening and 2. Recovery.

Instead I get testing testing testing. Let me guess, next up is ventilators ventilators ventilators. Times up.



Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (SAK2A)

152 Bars still closed though. Damn it all.

Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 27, 2020 05:42
-------------------------
Improvise. Opened bar on my deck when weather permits. Moves to garage when weather's inclement.
Several guys from bar come over regularly. Not the same, but we adapt.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (Dhht7)

153 US Cotton. RACIST!!!!!

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (E7vND)

154 It breaks the chain. It will have no where to go and no way to get there.
________________

Again, theory. Not proof.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (k4dH2)

155 Howard Walowitz is working on a smaller more efficient test kit.
Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (E7vND)


Gotta test those 'nauts on the Space Station!

Posted by: Adriane the Shootin' BBall down by the Pool Critic ... at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (LPnfS)

156 Cuz I would like to see him explode.

All he needs is one thin mint.

Posted by: Mr Creosote! at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (I2/tG)

157 Ventilators are the last ditch tool to try and keep someone still breathing after the Chinese Lung disease has taken completely over.
Hence their poor ratings

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (ZCEU2)

158

A documentary portrait of Michelle Obama titled "Becoming" will premiere on Netflix next week, the streaming company announced Monday.

The film, described as "an intimate look into the life of former first lady Michelle Obama" chronicles her 34-city book tour in 2018-2019 for her best-selling memoir "Becoming." Obama's promotional tour, managed by the concert promoter Live Nation, had the scale of a rock tour, with a string of dates at sold-out arenas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (aKsyK)

159 > It is my understanding that neither NY nor NJ has needed the additional bed capacity built for Covid.

I think they did run out of ICU beds for a few days, but that was before the ship even arrived. By the time it got there, the peak had already passed.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (mNq/0)

160

Yes, let's appoint people who do not need to work to advise on how to get people back to work.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (S3UJx)

161 I said I'd give him 2 minutes to talk about the only 2 things I want to hear:



1. Reopening and 2. Recovery.



Instead I get testing testing testing. Let me guess, next up is ventilators ventilators ventilators. Times up.









Posted by: Guy Smiley at April 27, 2020 05:48 PM (SAK2A)



I'm with you Guy. I don't want to hear about the cotton swap with the polyester tip. I want to hear one word: GO

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (lwiT4)

162 > The film, described as "an intimate look into the life of former first lady Michelle Obama"

"Intimate look" and "Michelle Obama" are phrases that should never, ever appear in the same sentence. Ever.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (mNq/0)

163 wonder if you could convert a ventilator to a supercharger?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (+xeiL)

164 Also Rudy found out Falsie was head of HIN when it gave China 3.7 million to work on viruses.
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (N0If5)


We have learned to obscure pesky budget items far better for next time, comrade!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (jnM20)

165 If any one of you sonsabitches so much as thinks about sneezing after the opening, it's a beat down.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:46 PM (KnJdm)



I did that at the grocery.

Something flew up my nose and I blasted 5 big ones. So glad I had a mask on.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (ix2vz)

166 Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (aKsyK)

Eff Netflix.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (Ez6QX)

167 121
Will repeat my question for knowledgeable lurkers: is there any solid
science behind the somewhat suspect and breezy CDC current line about
C-19 primarily being transmitted through droplets of infected people's
breath?



Have they done even emergency quickie research? Or just going off typical ILI characteristics?





Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (El6T/)

Well, it's a coronavirus, just with different special sauce than prior coronavirii. So it is kind of a well-understood discipline and mechanism, I believe.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (KnJdm)

168 Illinois always has to top itself when it comes to governors, doesn't it?

---
Hey, we haven't graduated one to the federal penitentiary in a while, so we're kind of due.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (kOpft)

169 108 Why are experts so incredibly wrong so much the time?
Posted by: Minuteman at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (cxylv)

It happens every day of the week that shit happens. Cut a tire in turn 1. Get hip dislocated on a play. QB Shoulder stinger on 1st touch of ball.

And expert is not a soothsayer, wiseman, or sage. Just a guy (or gal) with letter behind their names.

When your financial advisers calls tomorrow ask him to be a grand on predicting the S&P within 10 points. If he take you up give me his name.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (JFO2v)

170 162 > The film, described as "an intimate look into the life of former first lady Michelle Obama"

Setting her up for VP?

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (5bxa0)

171 When are these "experts" going to admit they were wrong? We were told hospitals would be overwhelmed. They weren't. We were told millions could die. They didn't. Every time there is something that helps people recover, we are told it's all wrong. Staying at home does nothing and is only possble due to the people out working.

Posted by: Notsothoreau

---

That's pretty much the entire thing in a nutshell.

People (people named Fauci) need to be fired and NEVER spoken to again. (I would prefer execution for treason, but I'm a jerk.)

"Experts." Fuck the experts.

Most importantly, people need to learn about "government doctors" - you know: those people who get the podium when there's a national medical emergency; those dumb fucks who approve health textbooks for middle schools, make it "official" that "fat is bad for you," and invent things like "the food pyramid."

These are NOT the best and the brightest. They are merely those who learned how to play the game. Brown-nosers. Ladder-climbers. Political minions.

And because they were so far at the back of the pack, they are reveling in their power over the doctors who zoomed past them.

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (68b38)

172 Again, theory. Not proof.


Definitely not proven. Oh and btw... virus. exists. in all 50 states. in all (or nearly all) countries.

It IS part of our biome now. Face hard fact.

Somebody, somewhere, is gonna run into this bug, today, tomorrow, a week from now, a month from now, a year from now, a decade from now.

Life finds a way.

Let's let it evolve into less and less virulent forms and let's let herd immunity work its magic.

Cur non?

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (j9HX3)

173 Supposedly the numbers of people having the China Flu are going up, so our lockdown continues. Is t that the definition of crazy? If it's not working, try a different tactic. But our governor can't stop smiling when she announces she's tightening the screws. She loves the power to say "Sit!Stay"

Posted by: Chillin the most at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (lonOK)

174 Minority communities. Here we go.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (lwiT4)

175 we went out to see the wildflowers up in the Antelope Valley yesterday...

there were vehicles, and people everywhere.

and maybe 1/3rd were masked.

Newsom is asshoe

Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx tech at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (dlZr1)

176 Today Pritz also had his head of public health admit that less than 10% of all counted covid deaths in IL died from covid directly. Mostly, it's the comorbidities that kill them. Sad, but true.

Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (L3Rsz)

177 > Ventilators are the last ditch tool to try and keep someone still breathing after the Chinese Lung disease has taken completely over.

Yep. Intubation in general means that you're already circling the drain, so it can't hurt to try.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (mNq/0)

178 I like watching MUMR get zapped in real time.

Fooker is truly brain damaged, isn't he?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (x8Wzq)

179 It is my understanding that neither NY nor NJ has needed the additional bed capacity built for Covid. Specifically, Javits and Comfort never got more than a handful of cases. They were still wise to build that capacity, and I'm thrilled it wasn't needed.
Posted by: pep at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (T6t7i)


That's true, but it's a qualified sort of truth. A lot of people with non-COVID respiratory problems that would have ended up in the ICU in January were discharged to their homes so beds could would be available for COVID patients. I think they would have run out of ICU beds (but not vents) if they hadn't changed procedures.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (wGeit)

180 We have learned to obscure pesky budget items far better for next time, comrade!


Should have socked that as the University of Delaware.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (+xeiL)

181 158




A documentary portrait of Michelle Obama titled "Becoming" will
premiere on Netflix next week, the streaming company announced Monday.



The film, described as "an intimate look into the life of former
first lady Michelle Obama" chronicles her 34-city book tour in 2018-2019
for her best-selling memoir "Becoming." Obama's promotional tour,
managed by the concert promoter Live Nation, had the scale of a rock
tour, with a string of dates at sold-out arenas.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (aKsyK)

Does it dramatize the difficulties she experiences every day taping her schlong to her leg?

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (ufFY8)

182 CVS dude ran his mouth about as long as his companie's reciepts.

Posted by: Martini Farmer - Montani Semper Liberi at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (3H9h1)

183 Michelle Obama makes my skin crawl. I wish Hubs would cancel his Netflix subscription.

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (Lhcx9)

184 I did that at the grocery.



Something flew up my nose and I blasted 5 big ones. So glad I had a mask on.



Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (ix2vz)

2319! 2319!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (KnJdm)

185 Could all these various kinds of ologists be conspiring together?

And to what ends?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (S3yM7)

186 Ahaha CNN breaks away

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (E7vND)

187 Remember when Michelle Obama said "Barack isn't going to let you return to your former life"?

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (w7KSn)

188 MUMR is a non-healing sore on the ass. His only function.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (o2MD2)

189 Let's let it evolve into less and less virulent forms and let's let herd immunity work its magic.



Cur non?

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (j9HX3)

---
that's just crazy talk...


Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx tech at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (dlZr1)

190 Today Pritz also had his head of public health admit
that less than 10% of all counted covid deaths in IL died from covid
directly. Mostly, it's the comorbidities that kill them. Sad, but true.


Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (L3Rsz)



They let him say that out loud?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (lwiT4)

191 It's boring but these are the guys that made it happen.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (ix2vz)

192 "Researchers tracking smartphone data"


No need to microchip the populace if we're doing it ourselves.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (HmZuC)

193 > Hey, we haven't graduated one to the federal penitentiary in a while, so we're kind of due.

When Blago got out, a friend of mine noted that his daughter (now in high school) had never before in her life known a time when at least one former Illinois Governor wasn't doing time.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (mNq/0)

194 I wonder what ELSE got out of that Frankenstein lab in Wuhan?

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 05:52 PM (+xeiL)

195
A breath of fresh air, those judges rulings are.

Posted by: Liberty, and not talking about the horse at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (sy5kK)

196 Clay County Circuit Court Judge Michael McHaney ruled against Pritzker's
executive order, granting a restraining order to temporarily block the
stay-at-home restrictions set to take effect Friday, according to local
reports.

"We are certainly going to act in a swift action to have this ruling
overturned," Pritzker said in his daily coronavirus press briefing
Monday.




That's great but I'm sure they'll find some corrupt judge(s) to overturn that

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (a4xU3)

197 But they'll never use that smartphone data against anyone but criminals.

No no no no no they won't.

Never.

Well, except maybe people who MIGHT be criminals.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (e284m)

198 They need to be called on this "protect the most vulnerable" BS. They have done nothing, absolutely nothing, to protect those in nursing homes and care centers. And they prevent family members from visiting, so they can't monitor the care.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (Lqy/e)

199
This guy was in Planet of the Apes.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (S3UJx)

200 159 > It is my understanding that neither NY nor NJ has needed the additional bed capacity built for Covid.

I think they did run out of ICU beds for a few days, but that was before the ship even arrived. By the time it got there, the peak had already passed.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:49 PM (mNq/0)

Harris County spent $17 million on pop up hospital now torn down!

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (JFO2v)

201 Why are experts so incredibly wrong so much the time?
Posted by: Minuteman at April 27, 2020 05:44 PM (cxylv)

"An expert is someone afraid to learn anything new because then he wouldn't be an expert anymore."

- Harry S Truman

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (zKTOG)

202 A breath of fresh air, those judges rulings are.

Put that mask back on!

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (5bxa0)

203 "The film, described as "an intimate look into the life of former first lady Michelle Obama" "


Must-miss TV!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. LePetomaine Wants Your Harumph at The Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (0QYMt)

204 Not even RuPaul wants an intimate look into the life of former first lady Michelle Obama.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (Ndje9)

205 Please talk about opening up. I'm sick of testing.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (lwiT4)

206 Who is that to Trump's right?

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (Lhcx9)

207 How do bars survive this? I have seen news reports of Brewers having to dump beer because depending on the beer it can go bad.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (dKiJG)

208 Other than a very few places (NY/NJ) the hospital system was never overwhelmed, nor was it in any danger of being overwhelmed.

It
is my understanding that neither NY nor NJ has needed the additional
bed capacity built for Covid. Specifically, Javits and Comfort never got
more than a handful of cases. They were still wise to build that
capacity, and I'm thrilled it wasn't needed.


Posted by: pep at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (T6t7i)

Harris County let a $17 million contract for an emergency COVID19 hospital that was et up at the Reliant / Astrodome center. Now that same hospital is being dismantled, unused.
Fuck Judge Hidalgo

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (5v5Zx)

209 Staying at home does nothing and is only possble due to the people out working.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (Lqy/e)


If I did not implicitly trust my betters, I'd be tempted to draw the conclusion that a taxpayer funded sinecure does not imply the slightest bit of competence or integrity upon the holder of the sinecure, and find it hard to understand why these "experts" who really had only one job over the past few decades have completely screwed up almost every aspect of preparation, treatment, testing, and planning!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (jnM20)

210 These boys know the buzzword corporate lingo, my babies.

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (ufFY8)

211 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (Zz0t1)

212 149 There's a strip club offering take outs.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (ix2vz)

Ill take the little blond with the hilter cut

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (JFO2v)

213 I don't buy the bit about people walking around oblivious they have it and spreading it around.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (ZCEU2)

214 > Harris County spent $17 million on pop up hospital now torn down!

I saw that Washington state got an entire US Army field hospital sent to them that they sent back. Didn't need it.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (mNq/0)

215 Not advising by the stay at home rule:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Zz0t1)

216 It breaks the chain. It will have no where to go and no way to get there.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:45 PM (ix2vz)

Lulz.

Posted by: Your groceries and mail at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (kOpft)

217 A documentary portrait of Michelle Obama titled "Becoming" will premiere on Netflix next week, the streaming company announced Monday.

-
Does it end when airplanes shoot her off the Empire State Building?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (+y/Ru)

218 "It seems collectively we're getting a little tired. It looks like people are loosening up on their own to travel more."

If it's a "self-quarantine" it should be a "self-parole".

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (+xeiL)

219 What is absolutely certain is that neither the Governor of any state, nor the Federal government for that matter, has any right to determine that you have no right to operate your business without some violation of a statute that can be credibly called forth in a court- if you have obtained lawfully that right to operate - ie a permit. And it needs to be proven, the DA can't just recite the governor's or the President's or even Congresses "guidance" on the matter - none of those has any force of law behind them. Fucking none.

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (32YRo)

220 This is about right for the lawsuits to be filed and the injunctions issued.

The quarantine (I know it's not a quarantine but bear with me) powers of the state are great but those powers are subject to strict scrutiny. Which means, at least in theory, that the restrictions must be the least onerous restrictions possible.

As the curve flattens, the restrictions are increasing.

That's not how this works, that's not how any of this works.

I do wonder if SCOTUS will touch any of these cases because hell no you don't want to set precedent on this.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (GbPPJ)

221 Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs. Judge puts the kibosh on
his lock-down. AG Barr is coming after him and other over-reaching guvs.

They'll get their bailouts. Let me tell you how it will be. One for you 19 for me.

Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (K22Va)

222 > I like watching MUMR get zapped in real time.

Fooker is truly brain damaged, isn't he?
Posted by: Pug Mahon




he's like a creepy flasher, obsessed with showing everyone his tiny penis

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (iTXRQ)

223 Harris County let a $17 million contract for an emergency COVID19 hospital that was et up at the Reliant / Astrodome center. Now that same hospital is being dismantled, unused.
Fuck Judge Hidalgo
Posted by: Count de Monet


Someone needs to do an audit.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (qjfjx)

224 Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (ix2vz)

2319! 2319!

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (KnJdm)


No really. The privious store I didn't wear it and I was the only one. It was uncomfortable so I put it on for Discount Grocery.

Not white knighting, letting go 5 big one's without a mask. I would have walked out of the store.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (ix2vz)

225 185 Could all these various kinds of ologists be conspiring together?

And to what ends?
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 27, 2020 05:51 PM (S3yM7)


It's not a conspiracy. It's just that nobody wants to go down in history as the Pollyana of our day. There were a whole lot of unknowns in this one, and people erred on the side of caution. There are still a lot of unknowns.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (wGeit)

226 Everybody, we Really Need to fight tooth and toenail against this "Contact Tracing" bullshit.

If gay men weren't required to do any of this for AIDS, like hell should all of us be forced to participate in this nonsense for a COLD virus.

And it is absolutely useless to "contact trace" any pathogen that is transmitted like this: on literally any available surface for hours/days, as well as random near misses on the street. It's Im-Possible. It would be a medically Useless, grossly intrusive, tyrannical invasion of our lives and privacy.
Not to mention, it would set all of us against each other. I've already dealt with 3 Leftoids in my apt. building shunning and bullying me After doing a full 16 days of self-quarantine: this will mean open season on all of us who have had the Chinese Death Cooties.
No. Thank. You.

Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (0KiA5)

227 It's very simple.

You told us it takes 2 weeks to see if you're sick.

We've been locked up for 6.

We're done.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Zz0t1)

228
These are NOT the best and the brightest. They
are merely those who learned how to play the game. Brown-nosers.
Ladder-climbers. Political minions.



And because they were so far at the back of the pack, they are reveling in their power over the doctors who zoomed past them.





Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (68b3

---
andddddd

you just described all the full time employee doctors at the VA facilities i go to...

the residents are a mixed bunch, but the permanent quacks are there because no reputable health care organization would have them on staff.

Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx tech at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (dlZr1)

229 212
149 There's a strip club offering take outs.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (ix2vz)



Ill take the little blond with the hilter cut

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (JFO2v)

The Chinese leave a bad taste in your mouth?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (KnJdm)

230 >211 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge



AS IF

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (iTXRQ)

231 They were still wise to build that
capacity, and I'm thrilled it wasn't needed.


Posted by: pep at April 27, 2020 05:47 PM (T6t7i)


Me too, very happy that things worked out that way.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Gov. LePetomaine Wants Your Harumph at The Outrage Outlet! at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (0QYMt)

232 Tall girl.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (ix2vz)

233 China!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (+fPHo)

234 DEFIANCE!!!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (NWiLs)

235
Someone needs to do an audit.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (qjfjx)


It's tax money.

No one audits TAX money. It's FREE!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (Zz0t1)

236 I think that chick in red was handing out pills in One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (ufFY8)

237 Harris County let a $17 million contract for an emergency COVID19 hospital that was et up at the Reliant / Astrodome center. Now that same hospital is being dismantled, unused.
Fuck Judge Hidalgo
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (5v5Zx)

with a barbed wire pineapple

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (JFO2v)

238 "Researchers tracking smartphone data"



*gazes upon flip phone and smiles.*

Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (5v5Zx)

239 Just checked on china flu deaths in CO = .0001 of the population.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (r+sAi)

240 Is asshoe!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (+fPHo)

241 fantastic luxurious phone calls
really spectacular

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (iTXRQ)

242 Does it end when airplanes shoot her off the Empire State Building?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (+y/Ru)


I nominate this comment for thread winner.

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (Lhcx9)

243 There's a strip club offering take outs.
Posted by: Braenyard

Do you want extra spicy or sweet n sour?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (+y/Ru)

244 OK folks, which ticket do you prefer:

Newsom/Cuomo, or Cuomo/Newsom?

Petty Tyrants 2020!

Posted by: zombie at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (N9G0H)

245 72 Has anyone else noticed that almost nobody wears a mask at these White House pressers? Does the White House have some magic protection from the virus?
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 05:40 PM (ZLI7S)

*****

As I understand it, (and I could be wrong) all the reporters are tested/screened for corona virus before they enter the room that the President/Vice President will be in.

If they test positive, not entrance.

But I can't swear that this is accurate. Just what I thought I heard.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (Ae67h)

246 They let him say that out loud?
His Director of Public Health said it....Dr. Ezike. I was floored. At the presser today, the question were far more pointed than they have been up to this point. Maybe the times are a'changing!

Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (L3Rsz)

247 Lei Zhang, eh?

Posted by: Joe Mama at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (Y7v+0)

248 So do we have to test 100 percent of the population before we can get out of jail? Because all they are talking about is testing. Not progress towards opening up, just testing and testing some more.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (lwiT4)

249 Well, except maybe people who MIGHT be criminals.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 27, 2020 05:53 PM (e284m)


And maybe just a few troublesome citizens (not illegals of course) that might "think" potentially criminal thoughts!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (jnM20)

250 How the hell did MUCK post the same thing twice?

And why is his IP not blocked yet?

He's NOWHERE near as entertaining as MUMR was.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (Zz0t1)

251 Media bitches about experts. Well this group, our big corporations, are on the front lines of inventing ,producing, and dissiminating products that can slow this plague.

Thank God we have these inventors.

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (E7vND)

252 Maybe the times are a'changing!


Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (L3Rsz)



Please Lord.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (lwiT4)

253 If they test positive, *NO* entrance.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (Ae67h)

254 Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs.

"Then YOUSE tell these pitiful, starving welfare recipients who's going to die!"

Posted by: A. Cuomo at April 27, 2020 05:58 PM (+xeiL)

255
I'm fairly confident that Blue State Guvnor has never, ever bothered to even do a cursory read of the US Constitution, nor the Washington State Constitution.

Because if he did, and even some of it registered in his mind, he wouldn't be doing what he is doing to his bosses, Washington state citizens.

Or, the other alternative is that he did, and is just a Chinese communist government sympathizer.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 05:58 PM (sy5kK)

256 Pzzpr

pestle prick

pizza prepuce

phezz prince


Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:58 PM (JFO2v)

257 237 Harris County let a $17 million contract for an emergency COVID19 hospital that was et up at the Reliant / Astrodome center. Now that same hospital is being dismantled, unused.
Fuck Judge Hidalgo
Posted by: Count de Monet at April 27, 2020 05:54 PM (5v5Zx)


Hey. U All got all the pot holes.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 05:58 PM (ix2vz)

258 There's a strip club offering take outs.
Posted by: Braenyard

Do you want extra spicy or sweet n sour?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


How about hot and bitter?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 05:58 PM (jnM20)

259 Just checked on china flu deaths in CO = .0001 of the population.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

We'll have to deforest the Rocky Mountains to build enough coffins!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (+y/Ru)

260 239 Just checked on china flu deaths in CO = .0001 of the population.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 05:56 PM (r+sAi)

that a trillion people

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (JFO2v)

261 National food supply chain at a breaking point. News at 5:00 on NBCDFW TV.

Yeah. Meat shortage coming.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (qjfjx)

262 And here's the thing about testing: all that will show is that a lot more people have had the disease and have antibodies. It will mean the death rate is even lower. Why do we need to know this before we reopen?

Posted by: Notsothoreau at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (Lqy/e)

263 My sister has been far more worried about Wuhan flu than I have been and even she is griping about WI governor Evers and this shutdown - because he doesn't have any game plan for gradually reopening like other governors have come up with.

We're 25th in the nation as far as covid cases go - why the f is this still going on?

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (HabA/)

264 I hope PDT makes his statements and then turn his back on the reporters, show them his ass, and walk out.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (85Gof)

265 How about hot and bitter?


Is this the ex-wife thread?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (gd9RK)

266 217 AW - someone is pushing the thought of Mooch as VP/ =P

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (ZCEU2)

267 Ugh, Birx.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (kOpft)

268 Texas Death Rate: 0.0000221

667 deaths out of 30 million pop.

Or, if you want to feel better, out of the 25,297 infections, the death rate is 0.026.

Let my Cameron go......

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (Zz0t1)

269 The reversal first became apparent last week, when the Maryland researchers continued to analyze the movements of smartphones via location data from apps. The aggregated and anonymous data, while imperfect, is an easily obtainable and consistent way to measure how much people move about, Zhang said. He said researchers are sharing the mobility data with government officials and epidemiologists modeling the spread of covid-19.


It's not bad enough that many LEO's have purchased those drones from China that buzz over people and scold them for not properly social distancing -- now we see that they are actively tracking citizens' movement, analyzing it and sharing it with government officials.

Welcome to the "new normal's" active surveillance state, comrades, where they don't even bother pretending to respect your freedom and rights!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (bDqIh)

270 We have been bamboozled, swindled, hijacked and misled by those who seek our destruction.

Make sure you wear your masks!......

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (Z+IKu)

271 If you get the test, then your life is saved. Must be, as much as they are pushing this.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (lwiT4)

272 265
How about hot and bitter?





Is this the ex-wife thread?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (gd9RK)

That was last thread.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (KnJdm)

273 >>How the hell did MUCK post the same thing twice?

>>And why is his IP not blocked yet?

He is blocked. That's why his comments disappear so quickly.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (ZLI7S)

274
Remember all of this nonsense, the next time the Fed Gov tries to scare the shit out of all of us with unproven nonsense and then tries to close down the country again.

And stay away from that train of empty boxcars.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (sy5kK)

275 248 So do we have to test 100 percent of the population before we can get out of jail? Because all they are talking about is testing. Not progress towards opening up, just testing and testing some more.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (lwiT4)

lets test all the guys and gal with HPV and stop cervical cancer

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (JFO2v)

276 Brix looking alittle saucy today.

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (E7vND)

277 Looks like Barr got off his bagpipes, too.

I wondered where our Judicial Branch was. This is GREAT news. I almost don't want to kick Mitch in the nuts today.

Almost.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (Ndje9)

278 someone is pushing the thought of Mooch as VP

Better get a bigger plow

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (85Gof)

279 Dr. Scarf tires me.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (ufFY8)

280 Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs.

"Then YOUSE tell these pitiful, starving welfare recipients who's going to die!"
Posted by: A. Cuomo


All you yankees gonna die.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (qjfjx)

281 Ugh, Birx.

I can stand her... It's Fauci I can't take

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (5bxa0)

282 Trump wants all the numbers and all the facts.

When something comes 'round again he'll make K. Rove's white board look like toilet paper.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (ix2vz)

283 Testing Donald.
I'd remind you that flail is on the way to fail.
Blueprint that it was a giant fuck up and quit digging.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (FhXTo)

284 It's very simple.

You told us it takes 2 weeks to see if you're sick.

We've been locked up for 6.

We're done.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (Zz0t1)



I maintain my WAG that Memorial Day is a hard limit on all of this.

Weather will be good, psychological start of summer/end of school, it will have been three months, more or less, that people have been inside, and people will be DONE.

Anecdata - I was out and about today in the fancy section of town. It's an utterly beautiful day out. Bunches of people were out walking and jogging and walking their dogs and bike riding and not a one of them were wearing a mask. And this is in prime wine mom Karen land.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (GbPPJ)

285 There were a whole lot of unknowns in this one, and people erred on the side of caution.

---

Forbidding people to run their businesses while allowing their huge competitors to continue to do so...

Deliberately lying to people about "overwhelmed" hospitals to drive them into unwarranted panic...

Destroying all economies in the world...

...sort of gives a new meaning to "erring on the side of caution."

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (68b38)

286 Scarf lady is here to make sure you stay in your bathtub for the rest of your life. Watch the slides.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (lwiT4)

287 Dr Birx needs a trip to the salon. Look at those roots!

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (Lhcx9)

288 As I understand it, (and I could be wrong) all the reporters are tested/screened for corona virus before they enter the room that the President/Vice President will be in.

If they test positive, not entrance.

But I can't swear that this is accurate. Just what I thought I heard.

Posted by: El Jefe at April 27, 2020 05:57
----------------------------------
Just temperature check.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (Dhht7)

289 The meat shortage. We are an amazingly rich country when it comes to food. There might be small shortages until they get the plants back up and running, but honestly...this is just more panic-mongering, imo.


Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (L3Rsz)

290 TexasDan, re 2A games, it really does make a mockery of what is already a pretty comically pathetic federal judiciary and "constitutional" system when it comes to, you know, actually enforcing obvious unambiguous constitutional principles and rights.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (El6T/)

291 Saw this soemwhere, maybe here, but appropriate:

Quarantine is when you restrict the movement of sick people.

Tyranny is when you restrict the movement of healthy people.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (jnM20)

292 That was last thread.


Ah. I'm a slacker. Missed a whole thread.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (gd9RK)

293 221 Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs. Judge puts the kibosh on
his lock-down. AG Barr is coming after him and other over-reaching guvs.

They'll get their bailouts. Let me tell you how it will be. One for you 19 for me.
Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (K22Va)


I don't mind seeing the government try to address quarantine related costs. But I don't see why people in Florida should have to pay for Illinois's decades long criminal stewardship of its pension system. Or for the spendthrifty ways of the legislature in CA where I live.

Let me say this, based on my own hard experience as a resident: If the rest of the country directs a river of cash to California the legislature here will take that as a signal they've been doing the right thing all these years and should continue on an even grander scale. If allowed, they will bankrupt the entire country.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (wGeit)

294 281 Ugh, Birx.

I can stand her... It's Fauci I can't take

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (5bxa0)


She was wearing her mean girl eyes on Bartiromo's show.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (ix2vz)

295 Karen Birx... Ugh. useless commie

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (nzKWW)

296 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (Ez6QX)

297 No meat shortage. Hebrew National assured me and they answer to a higher source

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (85Gof)

298 Humans are creatures, which like all other creatures, live with our lives at risk. Some of us take on risky professions and risky hobbies. Certainly, there are plenty of people for whom an attempt at climbing Everest was a one-way trip, where even a body wasn't returned to civilization. Perhaps the government should inform us how to stay safe, but it shouldn't try to prevent all unsafe behaviors. If they did, they wouldn't allow people to be firefighters. And we can all imagine how that would not, on the whole, improve our safety in the slightest. The response they've had is just going overboard. If it weren't 20th+ century, would anyone even realize something was going on beyond a slightly harsh flu season? Since we know about it I'm not advocating no precautions. But by the same token, if we destroy our economy there will be a loss of life that might even be bigger, and certainly a loss of a lot of other things.

Posted by: DaveM at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (WWC3Y)

299 Birxy very succinct today.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (+xeiL)

300
He is blocked. That's why his comments disappear so quickly.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (ZLI7S)


Look. He's not blocked.

I can't post from my public IP address at work because it says BLOCKED, Contact an Admin.

Having your posts seen, then removed, is not blocked.

Unless my post from work is visible and removed while I receive the message that says "You're blocked and can't post," he's not blocked.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (Zz0t1)

301 289 The meat shortage. We are an amazingly rich country when it comes to food. There might be small shortages until they get the plants back up and running, but honestly...this is just more panic-mongering, imo.


Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (L3Rsz)

God almighty. The same people who hoarded TP will now be buying up all the steaks and hamburger.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (HabA/)

302
JUST OPEN THE COUNTRY YOU DUMB FUCK.
---

I know he's a troll, but...

+1

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (kOpft)

303 How about hot and bitter?


Is this the ex-wife thread?
Posted by: Bandersnatch


That would be cold & bitter.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (qjfjx)

304 "this is just more panic-mongering, imo."

Find another opinion, this story is real.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (w7KSn)

305 We just need 10% - 30 MIL people to say LOLGF. Then it's a party.

Posted by: Abiss at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (Y8DtA)

306 Very very very skeptical about a lot of this testing framework.

Generally, testing that's not diagnostic is part of a containment strategy - as is tracing.

We're from 5 to 7 months into the epidemic, apparently.

Containment ain't in the picture at this stage of an epidemic - unless it is, unlike this one, truly apocalyptic in terms of case or infection fatality rates.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (El6T/)

307 289 The meat shortage. We are an amazingly rich country when it comes to food. There might be small shortages until they get the plants back up and running, but honestly...this is just more panic-mongering, imo.


Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (L3Rsz)



Agreed. The idea that we're going to slaughter livestock because the packers are having a problem is ludicrous.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (ix2vz)

308 Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:00 PM (sy5kK)

Somebody I know told me on the phone today. "You, know they're saying this may come back in the Fall?"I didn't want to say "And don't you think there's a political angle to this" because she's very hyper right now and wouldn't be able to hear that.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (bW1Yb)

309 >>Look. He's not blocked.

Nobody is removing his posts. It happens automagically.

He just had one up that lasted less than a couple seconds. Nobody around here works that fast.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (ZLI7S)

310 Out in tinfoil hat land, I'm hearing Trump has also told the WHO and Bill/Melinda Gates to shove their vaccine up their butts
Breaking News: Conservative blog sources claim Donald Trump touts tinfoil suppositories as Covid-19 cure. Dozens injured in ensuing panic.

Posted by: CNN at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (TQ/zJ)

311
Anyone remember "Prince" on the Lexx tv series?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (S3UJx)

312
I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.


No doubt. Reminds me of those movies where people use knives to dig trackers out of their bodies so they can avoid pursuit.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (+xeiL)

313 296 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (Ez6QX)

wear your yellow star proudly

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (JFO2v)

314 Anecdata - I was out and about today in the fancy
section of town. It's an utterly beautiful day out. Bunches of people
were out walking and jogging and walking their dogs and bike riding and
not a one of them were wearing a mask. And this is in prime wine mom
Karen land.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (GbPPJ)



Outside is the only place you can be, particularly if you are a child. If my grandkids want to do anything, it can only involve a bike ride or a hike. All other options are closed to them, even going into the grocery store. Even going into the parks. They haven't been in a store for 5 weeks. Haven't been to church in six. There are only so many hikes you can go on in any particular day.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (lwiT4)

315 Does it end when airplanes shoot her off the Empire State Building?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 27, 2020 05:55 PM (+y/Ru)


I nominate this comment for thread winner.
Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 05:57 PM (Lhcx9)

I would, but I'm too busy laughing.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (zKTOG)

316 Anecdata - I was out and about today in the fancy section of town. It's an utterly beautiful day out. Bunches of people were out walking and jogging and walking their dogs and bike riding and not a one of them were wearing a mask. And this is in prime wine mom Karen land.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (GbPPJ)


I hope it keeps up after they're released, but I've been seeing TONS of people outside, jogging, walking, out with their pets, their kids.....they should continue that, but I live around a bunch of Karen's as well and they're OUTSIDE.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (Zz0t1)

317 US Cotton RACIST!!!!

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (E7vND)

318 No meat shortage. Hebrew National assured me and they answer to a higher source

Posted by: Nevergiveup

---

I had a dream about seven skinny hot dogs devouring seven fat hot dogs?

What does it mean?!

Posted by: The Pharaoh at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (68b38)

319 Logistics, logistics, well and good.

Bring on Whack-A-Mole.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (ix2vz)

320 No meat shortage. Hebrew National assured me and they answer to a higher source
Posted by: Nevergiveup


Hebrew National? That's not calamari.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (qjfjx)

321 King Cotton

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (ix2vz)

322 285
Deliberately lying to people about "overwhelmed" hospitals to drive them into unwarranted panic...

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 06:01 PM (68b3


When did this happen? Who was deliberately lying?

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (wGeit)

323 Contact Tracing...yeah. They obviously didn't focus group that one.

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (nzKWW)

324 We just need 10% - 30 MIL people to say LOLGF. Then it's a party.

Posted by: Abiss at April 27, 2020 

Exactly.


We need a leader to get it started.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (sQq+E)

325
Where Is Everyone Supposed To Get Masks??

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (S3UJx)

326 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (Ez6QX)


Comrade, once installed, you won't even notice the microchip!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (jnM20)

327 Heh. Rumpswap is a good Howie Carr word.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (gd9RK)

328 321
RUMP SWABS

are we still doing things we enjoyed as a child, forgot about, then did again?

Posted by: Anachronda at April 27, 2020 06:06 PM (kf5Ci)

329 "as the highly contagious COVID-19 continued to infect thousands in the state."

Sure thing, Jimmy Olson.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:06 PM (H8QX8)

330 Let me say this, based on my own hard experience as a
resident: If the rest of the country directs a river of cash to
California the legislature here will take that as a signal they've been
doing the right thing all these years and should continue on an even
grander scale. If allowed, they will bankrupt the entire country.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (wGeit)

---
truth.

the difference between Sacramento and drunken sailors is that sailors have to stop when they run out of money.


Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx tech at April 27, 2020 06:06 PM (dlZr1)

331
Can Jewells sew?
Maybe she can make us masks.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:06 PM (S3UJx)

332 Just a superficial glance of mooch makes me puke.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 27, 2020 06:06 PM (OuKaw)

333 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.
Posted by: Jordan61


wear your yellow star proudly
Posted by: rhennigantx


This!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:06 PM (qjfjx)

334

the Biden rape coverup.

Yes, all but FOX are in on it.

Every other network, including the over-the-air Big 3.


The word you are looking for is "conspiracy".

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (sy5kK)

335 Grapple!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (+fPHo)

336 Contact Tracing...yeah. They obviously didn't focus group that one.

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (nzKWW)


This means of disease prevention has been quite a success in the PRC, so what possible objection could we have with this technology here?

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (jnM20)

337 Looks like Barr got off his bagpipes, too.

---
I hope people have read that memo he released today.

It's not just about protecting Christians, it's about protecting speech (the protests against the shutdown governors) and punishing those who are causing "undue interference to the national economy." It's a legal declaration of war on the shutdown crowd by Trump's DoJ.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (kOpft)

338 Or, the other alternative is that he did, and is just a Chinese communist government sympathizer.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 05:58 PM (sy5kK)

Hey LCD, he could just read the statutes on the books in his state...that would be a start.

For example, Andrew Cuomo has no right, none in statute much less in the US Constitution, to decide what is an essential business in his own mind and what is not, not during an emergency - not fucking ever. Those powers are statutorially set - because they have been tested by the New York State Constitution and by the US Constitution...and you can google the good governors' actual emergency powers which are all about roads, and marine accesses, and the national guard, etc - but not one fucking thing about essential operating businesses or limiting anyone's movement other than in "hostile" designated areas of NG operations"...so fuck him.

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (32YRo)

339
Outside is the only place you can be, particularly if you are a child. If my grandkids want to do anything, it can only involve a bike ride or a hike. All other options are closed to them, even going into the grocery store. Even going into the parks. They haven't been in a store for 5 weeks. Haven't been to church in six. There are only so many hikes you can go on in any particular day.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (lwiT4)



It's not so much the Outside part as it is the no masks part.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (GbPPJ)

340 Per the CDC, over 2.6 million people die in the US every year, that works out to 12,500 people per day, 50,000 per week, 216,000 per month.

So I find it implausible that a comparatively small number of additional fatalities would overwhelm the system?

Also now we see where there erroneous model data came from.

Their initial death estimates were 2.5 million, that just happens to be the rough number of people who die per year from all causes.

This thing is scam at every level of analysis.

Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (RVqby)

341 "aNy iNcReAsE iN tRaVeL iS pReMaTuRe"
F that. I went for a 270-mile drive last Wednesday (into northeastern South Dakota. gasp!) because I needed to spend some time seeing things farther away than the longest dimension of my apartment. The only potential points of close contact I would have had with other people were a gas pump handle and the handrails of the steps of an observation tower I visited, and there's sanitizer for that.

Posted by: ptschett at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (zB+vL)

342 First question. Grapple

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (E7vND)

343 Comrade, once installed, you won't even notice the microchip!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (jnM20)

*hold hands about a foot apart*

It only goes this deep

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (JFO2v)

344 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

345
Where's the increased production of, oh I dunno, bleach??

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (S3UJx)

346 My favorite Chinese restaurant is opening tomorrow.

I'm going to have the Pepper Steak combo with egg roll.

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (Lhcx9)

347 How about hot and bitter?


Is this the ex-wife thread?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 27, 2020 05:59 PM (gd9RK)

Another nominee.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (zKTOG)

348
Nobody is removing his posts. It happens automagically.

He just had one up that lasted less than a couple seconds. Nobody around here works that fast.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (ZLI7S)


I'm going to say that's a different situation than those that are told, and retold, don't post in old threads because you'll be BANNED.

I would guess their posts after banning wouldn't be seen, then dropped.

I guess I could be wrong and will test next time I'm in the office, but it seems IP banning via that silly hash is doable.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (Zz0t1)

349 Can Jewells sew?
Maybe she can make us masks.

My Daughter made me one... I really wanted one of those bird masks from the black plague, but they'd be too hot

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (5bxa0)

350 OT but does anyone know Kim Jong Dong's life status today? dead undead maybe dead rumored dead etc

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (iTXRQ)

351 So if the propaganda machine has to have their temperatures checked and don't haved anything abnormal what if they are one of the so called carriers who have no symptoms?

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (ZCEU2)

352
"Vee are quite concernt about your contact trrracing PRRROfile."

"April 17 : who iz ziss?"

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (+xeiL)

353 In my family, generally the women are pro-quarantine, while the men are not. Not going to play psychologist like those prats on TV, but I find that interesting.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (HmZuC)

354 Meanwhile, California governor declares de facto revenge against citizens who went to beach and threatens to double down on enforcing shutdown. 29 executive decrees so far from this wanna be emperor and Calvin Klein model.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (H8QX8)

355 This presser is giving off a vibe saying no one can return to work unless tested.

Posted by: Pelosi's Snotty Fingers at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (a1s18)

356
Hahahahahaha, you can barely hear Fake News ask their fake questions.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (S3UJx)

357 God almighty. The same people who hoarded TP will now be buying up all the steaks and hamburger.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 06:03
--------------------------------
Hah. Isnt' that the truth. May have to pitch some stuff from freezer to make room for my meat hoarding.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (Dhht7)

358 Gotcha!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (+fPHo)

359 Becoming - The Mike Obama Story

Posted by: x at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (nFwvY)

360 When did this happen? Who was deliberately lying?

Posted by: Ace's liver

---

Rush covered it quite well. News reports of people "standing in lines" at hospitals... until citizen journalists went to those same hospitals and found nothing at all going on.

They can't be simultaneously "overwhelmed" and laying off staff. That's absurd.

And then the fucking doctors make lip-synching videos for social media and want to be called "heroes."

Fuck those quacks.

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (68b38)

361 We need a leader to get it started.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 27, 2020 06:05 PM (sQq+E)

We have have one. He just needs to say a 'little' more than 'Liberate Michigan' etc. Just enough to get it through to the LCD in an unequivocal fashion. Does that and I bet he gets closer to 100 MIL...

Posted by: Abiss at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (Y8DtA)

362 who was that cunt asking the question about Azar

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (85Gof)

363 No meat shortage here either.

Posted by: Uncle Meat at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (Tnijr)

364 "Mr President why aren't you firing the people we hate?"

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (+xeiL)

365 Everybody, we Really Need to fight tooth and toenail against this "Contact Tracing" bullshit. If gay men weren't required to do any of this for AIDS, like hell should all of us be forced to participate in this nonsense for a COLD virus. No. Thank. You.
Posted by: Beverly

True dat. That's just another phrase for Retail Surveillance. Also, if 15% of the population has been exposed, it's a joke anyway.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (Ndje9)

366 What if I get a test and then catch the virus the next day?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (r+sAi)

367
My Daughter made me one... I really wanted one of those bird masks from the black plague, but they'd be too hot

Posted by: It's me donna


Out of what, a bandana?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (S3UJx)

368 If I were a reporter at the presser here's a question I would ask Falsie: Is Bruce Jenner still a man?

That would cause a melt down of epic proportions.

Posted by: Minuteman at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (cxylv)

369 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

Tests = $.......

Like Lennon said. Or the other Lenin. Or Jack Lemmon.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (Z+IKu)

370 another unfair question. how long until he shuts it down?

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (Lhcx9)

371 344 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (lwiT4)


Next year Trump is going to crunch them with numbers.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (ix2vz)

372 >>>OT but does anyone know Kim Jong Dong's life status today? dead undead maybe dead rumored dead etc


I called Hell to check but the line was busy.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (HmZuC)

373 Contact tracing a perfectly normal part of containment, or surveillance and research for a new bug like this.

No problem with testing in general, of course diagnostic, and given the amazing instant innovation that has produced quick tests. It will be useful in dealing with the psychological issues (fear) for employers, institutions, group events, etc.

But making "re-opening" contingent on an arbitrary level of testing is not linked to any medical or epidemiological science, unless this virus is much deadlier, and much better understood, than appears to be the case.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (El6T/)

374 It's not so much the Outside part as it is the no masks part.





Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (GbPPJ)



You're right. I don't see people wearing masks outside. I do when we go door to door to check on the old folks. Not that I think it much matters, but I think it makes them feel better.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (lwiT4)

375 OT but does anyone know Kim Jong Dong's life status today? dead undead maybe dead rumored dead etc
Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (iTXRQ)


Last I heard, vegetable.

Wife saw a story online that said he collapsed and was rushed to the hospital for heart surgery or stent or something. The Dr. was SO NERVOUS and shaking that he fucked up, bad.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (Zz0t1)

376 Pee lousy dancing in Chinatown

Lol

Posted by: Redenzo at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (E7vND)

377 But when these court decisions get appealed (especially IL) and the obligatory liberal judge overthrows them, how far will that set us back? Will small community litigants have the $ to take this up the chain?

At least it forced the fox (think Jesus' biblical usage, the worst epithet He ever uttered) Pritzker to admit how cooked the IL covid books are. Though death pains more than the deceased, I think we can extrapolate and say 5300 direct covid deaths in US.

THIS WAS UNNECESSARY!

Posted by: Al Unsure at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (Jib4S)

378 I guess the otherwise frightening thought of the government tracking you via your cell phone at all times is not really any revelation at all.

We all acquiesced to that one without even a thought.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (rPQ2x)

379 I liked hearing him say "Open the schools." He needs to say stuff like this as often as possible.

Posted by: disnaster at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (SPhkC)

380 Mr President, what is your opinion about Biden's rape case?

Posted by: Menack at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (buTO7)

381
Out of what, a bandana

Mines a pretty floral.. It's just made in mask shape

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (5bxa0)

382 FFS Don, mention that Fauci got the same issue wrong, even later than HHS Sec.

Jeebus.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (El6T/)

383 Sooth, I got rid of my sewing machine a few years ago. Sadly.. damn Etsy folks are making bank right now.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (dUJdY)

384 "Mr President somebody said something about the virus months ago that turned out to be wrong- are you going to resign?"

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (iTXRQ)

385 Imagine this country with no politicians.


That's my bumper sticker. And I don't put bumper stickers on my car.

Posted by: Abiss at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (Y8DtA)

386 >> Everybody, we Really Need to fight tooth and toenail against this "Contact Tracing" bullshit.

If gay men weren't required to do any of this for AIDS, like hell should all of us be forced to participate in this nonsense for a COLD virus.
- - - -

THIS

Saw a fluff piece on this Apple-Android venture this weekend, and please, do not buy what they are selling. "Oh, the first thing we decided was anonymous! Even made the first letter in the acronym P for Privacy blah blah blah."

We don't trust you, data farmers who have been tracking, analyzing, and monetizing every last thing about us via our personal tech.

I imagine it stays private right up to the point that LEO's start asking for data on people, or they find a way to re-use the data to make $$$ and/or change our behavior.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (bDqIh)

387 Just realized there was a presser. Thought he wasn't going to have them anymore.

What'd I miss?

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (cF8AT)

388 I don't mind seeing the government try to address quarantine related
costs. But I don't see why people in Florida should have to pay for
Illinois's decades long criminal stewardship of its pension system. Or
for the spendthrifty ways of the legislature in CA where I live.

They're floating bankruptcy for IL.

Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (K22Va)

389 Oooh. Sultry, maybe angry Chanel.

Like.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (El6T/)

390 staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus until widespread testing and contact tracing become available.
- - - - - - - -

So they really are pretending this thing isn't going to burn out.

Posted by: ... at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (uEbPt)

391 Celebrities Spell Out 'We're All In This Together' With Their Yachts



https://preview.tinyurl.com/yazz8d6k





Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik



*snort*

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (+xeiL)

392 This presser is giving off a vibe saying no one can return to work unless tested.
Posted by: Pelosi's Snotty Fingers at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (a1s1


Texas already said, fuck off. Friday. Get some back in the work force. Use your head. Common sense. You can open.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (Zz0t1)

393 359 Becoming - The Mike Obama Story
Posted by: x at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (nFwvY)


Is this a documentary about xer sex change operation?

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (Lhcx9)

394
We're not reporting accurately!

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (S3UJx)

395 Never a meat shortage at my house.


Sausage galore!

Posted by: Buttgig at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (sQq+E)

396 Looks like Barr got off his bagpipes, too.

---
I hope people have read that memo he released today.

It's not just about protecting Christians, it's about protecting speech (the protests against the shutdown governors) and punishing those who are causing "undue interference to the national economy." It's a legal declaration of war on the shutdown crowd by Trump's DoJ.
Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (kOpft)

A big nothingburger imho.

He just asked US attorneys to look into it, that's all.

You really think the Magic Negro nominated ones are gonna do anything?

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (zKTOG)

397 Talk to NGU about PPP.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (ix2vz)

398 355 This presser is giving off a vibe saying no one can return to work unless tested.
Posted by: Pelosi's Snotty Fingers at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (a1s1

What the hell has gotten into Trump? Or maybe the better question, what has gotten out of him?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (H8QX8)

399 Covid Milestone

I have drank my 200th beer since this shit started. Or thereabouts.

Posted by: jsg at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (xqwo/)

400 313
296 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (Ez6QX)



wear your yellow star proudly

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:04 PM (JFO2v)

I don't recall.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (KnJdm)

401 One question. One question only.

Posted by: BluesFish at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (WQZ1O)

402 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.
---

It has nothing to do with anything useful, just some tyrannical academics who want to satisfy their curiosity at our expense.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (kOpft)

403

I got rid of my sewing machine a few years ago. Sadly.. damn Etsy folks are making bank right now.

Posted by: Jewells45

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (S3UJx)

404 a real question for once. Breitbart FTW!

Posted by: ALH at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (Lhcx9)

405 "Any increase in travel, they say, is premature when staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus until widespread testing and contact tracing become available"

Fuck you and the goalpost moving.

That was never the deal and it isn't going to happen. Once they reopen stores and restaurants, this bullshit ends. They can take their contact tracing and stick it up their ass.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (5p7BC)

406 Talk to NGU about PPP.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (ix2vz)

I might actually get my money, but this is what happens when
1) You write legislation in an hour
2) Trust the Big Banks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (85Gof)

407 Theory being bounced around re fat boy. He's overweight, smokes and drinks. Covid is running rampant and he's terrified of getting it. He's hiding somewhere in his bunker and threw out the stories of his demise. Little fucker is an attention whore if nothing else.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (dUJdY)

408 What the hell has gotten into Trump? Or maybe the better question, what has gotten out of him?


GERMOPHOBE

they found the correct op to snag the Golden Scalp Weasel

and it's STILL working on him

SAD

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (j9HX3)

409 Nice, a question from Breitbart.

Posted by: disnaster at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (SPhkC)

410
Anyone have a spare sewing machine we can send Jewells?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (S3UJx)

411 My office plans on reopening next Monday. They will have procedures in place to "Be Safe." If one of those procedures involves wearing a mask, then I'll just stay here at home for the time being. My workstation is running very well - my son set us up with outstanding internet.

I hate the mask protocols. I believe it's more about making the person next to you feel more safe, and far less doing any actual good. I wore a mask once since this whole thing started, and that's when we had to take our kitty to the vet to be put to sleep.

But, in all my wanderings to stores and other places, nobody has batted an eye. It's confusing, to be honest.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (x8Wzq)

412 Trump says no money for blue state bail-outs.
.........

Glamorous Gavin is going to be tho upthet.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (v0R5T)

413 Is this the week that the Chinavirus ceases to become the story, and the illegal shutdown of many states rises to the top story?


Getting close.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (sy5kK)

414 So they really are pretending this thing isn't going to burn out.
Posted by: ... at April 27, 2020 06:10 PM (uEbPt)


"Flatten the curve" is so March.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (H8QX8)

415 46% of out GDP has already returned to work.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (ix2vz)

416 No meat shortage here either.
Posted by: Uncle Meat at April 27, 2020 06:08 PM (Tnijr)


Meat has been spare on the shelves here for a month or so and prices have been reflecting that.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (GbPPJ)

417 Same fuckin questions every fruckin day from the same fuckin asshoes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (85Gof)

418 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.

We already do contract tracing for some reportable diseases. If you get syphilis, or tuberculosis, or rabies, or a dozen other diseases most people never see, the county and/or state health authorities are going to want to figure out where you got it and who you may have given it to.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (wGeit)

419 MI Governor Karen Witch-mer wants 28-day extension.

She did not get her 70-day extension, so she's going to apparently push for it piece by piece...

https://bit.ly/3cXc0fH

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer wants 28-day extension of emergency powers

Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Monday she plans to ask the state Legislature to extend her emergency declaration for 28 more days.

"It really should be longer than that, but 28 days is another important step," she said.

"Just in the last few years, the Flint water emergency was extended twice over 122 days. The Fraser sinkhole [in Macomb County], I think that was extended 56 days," she said. "We've only extended, in a global pandemic, a state of emergency by 23 days."

The emergency declaration allows Whitmer to issue executive orders such as her stay-at-home order mandating residents stay inside unless absolutely necessary, the order closing K-12 schools, and the order barring evictions for the duration of the emergency.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (Do5/p)

420 "Any mamby-pamby who wants to stat home cosseted with their wubbie is welcome to do so. Leave the rest of us the fuck alone.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM)"

My sediments, eggzackly.

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, holdin' my data close at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (wmfhQ)

421 Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (H8QX

You keep mentioned Trump's flawed performances as President, Dan. Have you written to him? If so, how many times.? Did you do it today?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (bW1Yb)

422 @398
The only thing I can figure is that he does not want the possibility for any deaths to be hung around his neck if he were to go against his "experts."

This thing is scam the likes we have never seen.

Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (RVqby)

423 >>You really think the Magic Negro nominated ones are gonna do anything?

Trump fired all of Obama's US Attorneys.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (ZLI7S)

424 Arkansas recorded it's 50th death. Most have been in assisted living or nursing homes. Latest victim was 88 years old.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (C1Lsn)

425 421-Mentioning, not mentioned.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (bW1Yb)

426 They need more DEETA!!


To keep us all SEEF!!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (+xeiL)

427 406 Talk to NGU about PPP.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:11 PM (ix2vz)

I might actually get my money, but this is what happens when
1) You write legislation in an hour
2) Trust the Big Banks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:12 PM (85Gof)


I follow your travails and persistence.
I do think it's better handled by banks than govt.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (ix2vz)

428 What if I get a test and then catch the virus the next day?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (r+sAi)
........

Oopty.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (v0R5T)

429 How about hot and bitter?

Is this the ex-wife thread?
Posted by: Bandersnatch

That would be cold & bitter.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:03 PM (qjfjx)


Coffee orders on my boat were taken as "(blonde/black) and (bitter/sweet)", depending on your preference for creamer and sugar. Blonde and bitter was "Hillary Clinton", and this was ca. 2004. My word as a Biden.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (t+qrx)

430
How many millions in free advertising is Abbott Labs getting, for simply doing a good job of what they are good at?

Excellent!

This is the way America is supposed to work.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (sy5kK)

431 Was working up on a scaffold all day, while up there if I took off my mask for any reason it didn't get on until I had to come down off it.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (ZCEU2)

432 Who bitch is dis

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (+xeiL)

433
Cleaning supplies have been sparse at supermarkets for over a month. Less than sparse, really.

Forget the tests, ramp up bleach and stuff.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (S3UJx)

434 this contact tracing by phone is bad, bad idea.

it's none of the government's business when I'm calling you from my mobile phone.

Posted by: Walker Texas Railey at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (nFwvY)

435 People are going to be way ahead of government and guidelines and all of that.

Whatever orderly fashion they - and that is all levels of government - have in mind is going to come apart.

And woe be the jurisdiction that chooses to jail people for it.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (ZfRYq)

436 I follow your travails and persistence.
I do think it's better handled by banks than govt.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:14 PM (ix2vz)

Well this is the worst of both. they are both handling it

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (85Gof)

437 296 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 06:02 PM (Ez6QX)


Really. I think it will sound great in my new novel.

Posted by: Zombie George Orwell at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (H8QX8)

438 Forget the tests, ramp up bleach and stuff.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (S3UJx)


I'M DRINKING ALL I CAN!

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (ZfRYq)

439 Brillo Head again

Posted by: BluesFish at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (WQZ1O)

440 Burner. Phones.

Posted by: tubal at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (bCLt0)

441 Our freezer has a lot of meat in it. Still, we make a point of picking up something whenever we are out. There's a place, kind of a small independent regional grocer that gets fresh beef and pork from local places, and the quality is excellent .We had some ribeyes last night that were heavenly.

Still, should some kind of short term meat shortage occur, we're good. Plenty of animal proteins, even in can form.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (x8Wzq)

442
Say the words "Civil Rights" Mr President.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (S3UJx)

443 DISINFECTANT


Get the Fuck out you turd.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (+xeiL)

444 Our local Walmart had the sings on the floor...go this way, do not go this way, one way, do not enter. Everyone was ignoring them.
Good to see.

Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (L3Rsz)

445 What - they finally get around to chipping everybody? Gonna have to check the NO box on that.

Posted by: Weasel at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (MVjcR)

446 This thing is scam the likes we have never seen.
Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 27, 2020 06:13 PM (RVqby)

Act 2 is brutal. Turn your eyes if you don't like gore.

Posted by: Abiss at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (Y8DtA)

447 You will notice that Witch-mer says nothing about "flattening the curve". She simply says that since other crises had longer orders, then we need one for this too.

Science? Data? Job losses? Economy?

Never heard of them...

*types*
*deletes*

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (Do5/p)

448 There might be small shortages until they get the plants back up and
running, but honestly...this is just more panic-mongering, imo.


For all we know there's a janitor that's been flushing a commode at a gas station outside Yellowstone that keeps the caldera from blowing who hasn't been there for a month.

Posted by: DaveA at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (FhXTo)

449 All these f'ing people with paychecks complaining about opening up piss me off.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (r+sAi)

450 Nuts

Missed the Happy Thread.

I'd be much happier with the Judge ruling that Gov Jolsen "KlansRobe" McBabykiller must have a hook shoved into his mouth and that he be marched into captivity to Rura Penthe.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (7dKMf)

451 I might actually get my money, but this is what happens when
1) You write legislation in an hour
2) Trust the Big Banks

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:12
-------------------------------
Some banks are just too big and cheat to take care of larger customers first. Not the way PPP was written, but that's what large banks did.

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (Dhht7)

452 I really am tired of hearing the name Fauci.

Posted by: disnaster at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (SPhkC)

453 I am actually beginning to think these bailouts were a huge mistake. They could have done almost the same thing by ordering a full out halt and forebearance to all payments and then have the GOV help out the end users, being the banks and utilities. Cut out all the middlemen

And who was that asshole asking about lysol

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (85Gof)

454 Got Levin on for first time in many weeks, Democrats are trying to give money to universities and illegals again in these bail outs.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (ZCEU2)

455 442
Say the words "Civil Rights" Mr President.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (S3UJx)
---
As I read this, he did

Posted by: Menack at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (buTO7)

456 Oh, i meant triple.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (+fPHo)

457 Our freezer has a lot of meat in it. Still, we make a point of picking up something whenever we are out. There's a place, kind of a small independent regional grocer that gets fresh beef and pork from local places, and the quality is excellent .We had some ribeyes last night that were heavenly.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (x8Wzq)


I went to Merindorf's Meats in Williamston yesterday, hoping to support a local Meatopia. Turned out they were closed until Tuesday, but at least they're still in business.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (t+qrx)

458 "114 104 staying home remains the most effective way to limit the spread of the virus
_____________________

That's a theory. A theory that has not been proven accurate to date.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 05:43 PM (k4dH2)


It breaks the chain. It will have no where to go and no way to get there"

Check the data on Rt-live. The RsubT was declining in every state prior to lockdowns and there was no increase in rate of decrease after.

Also, all RsubT are converging asymptotically on 1. Which is probably an artefact of the lockdown as well.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (cX9dp)

459 All these f'ing people with paychecks complaining about opening up piss me off.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk
Oh yes. The anger is real.

Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (L3Rsz)

460 Okay, so, someone up thread mentioned risk.

Here is the *definitive* explication of this, and IMO the last word:

https://youtu.be/xgOUgrOHuFc

Posted by: ibguy at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (EHVbt)

461 I doesn't matter what Fauci says
paraphrasing _Trump

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (ix2vz)

462 ah, America's grandpa

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (iTXRQ)

463 Ah, Reverend Pence.

Still enjoying the heck out of the Trump/Pence combo.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (El6T/)

464 So apparently I haven't missed a thing. From what little I've seen it sounds like every other presser, including the same dumbass questions.

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (cF8AT)

465 344 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (lwiT4)

grammie

It is a fakeout. It is like a Japanese inspection. You send over a shipment of lettuce and they decide to inspect it, next month.

None of this is real life. Some years 32% get flu vaccine. That is only 33% effective. It is a big game to fuck with you just like you fucked the deep state when you voted for PDT.

If you just admit to yourself that this is the Big Govt screwing you over you may actually feel better. It is very very hard to accept but it is the truth.

Half Whit, Pelosi, AoC, and the lot would not care if you were cut up and turn into soylent green. Their agenda is a wonderful State much like Cuba or Venezuela.

Here is the US is it hard to tell the elite from the common as we all run are cars wide fucking open, run the AC at 70 if we want, eat steaks that would choke a T rex.

That is not a civil society. Watch that PBS show about semi royalty in 19XX. All liberal were wetting their panties over that show. It was ruling class upstairs and servant class downstairs.

Mcstain, Mittens, the Bushes, and CoC felt the same way. So a little church fails. Maybe we can put a small housing project.

This is all a way to kick YOU in the ass.

R

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (JFO2v)

466 Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Monday she plans to ask the state Legislature to extend her emergency declaration for 28 more days.

---

Is that the same legislature that just voted to rewrite the emergency powers to get their bitch under control?

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (kOpft)

467 So apparently I haven't missed a thing. From what little I've seen it sounds like every other presser, including the same dumbass questions.
Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (cF8AT)

Yup same fuckin questions from the same fuckin asshoes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (85Gof)

468 >>We already do contract tracing for some reportable diseases. If you get syphilis, or tuberculosis, or rabies, or a dozen other diseases most people never see, the county and/or state health authorities are going to want to figure out where you got it and who you may have given it to.


Which makes sense. However, the tracing they want is more proactive: they track your location an everyone with whom you are in close proximity, store it for ??? and then later, if someone gets Wuhan flu they check contacts.

I guess years on seeing privacy eroded thanks to tech has made me wary -- especially when it's in partnership with the state (and especially with newbie tyrants such as Whitmer).

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (bDqIh)

469
I can't sanitize my home with a test, Mike Pence.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (S3UJx)

470 In response to that nasty bitch's death rate grandstanding, Trump just pointed out that closing businesses causes deaths.

Needs to do that more.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (+xeiL)

471 What if I get a test and then catch the virus the next day?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 06:09 PM (r+sAi)
........

You touched your face! Bad boy.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (v0R5T)

472 Still, should some kind of short term meat shortage occur, we're good. Plenty of animal proteins, even in can form.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Workin

I have my eye on some cows, I won't take the poor one with pneumonia.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (7bcfy)

473 can I downvote the Michelle Obama documentary from each of my Netflix profiles? I got one, wife's got one, we have a joint one, we have one to segregate our 3-yr old's stuff, etc

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (xFkiy)

474 454 Got Levin on for first time in many weeks, Democrats are trying to give money to universities and illegals again in these bail outs.
Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:17 PM (ZCEU2)


Yep. Just like Obama's "stimulus", these bailouts will drain through the cracks and disappear without helping anyone who isn't politically connected.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (wGeit)

475 The number of tests blah blah blah.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (+fPHo)

476 Just once I'd like to hear Trump say "I don't work for Dr. Fauci, Dr. Fauci works for me."

Like a boss.

I get the many he reasons he doesn't. But I still want to hear it.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (ZfRYq)

477 Our local Walmart had the sings on the floor...go this way, do not go this way, one way, do not enter. Everyone was ignoring them.
Good to see.
Posted by: lizabth at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM (L3Rsz)

We were at a Walmart yesterday, and my wife kept going the wrong way.

I asked her if she was doing it on purpose.

She said she wasn't even paying attention. And added that she didn't care anyway.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (x8Wzq)

478 171 When are these "experts" going to admit they were wrong? We were told hospitals would be overwhelmed. They weren't. We were told millions could die. They didn't. Every time there is something that helps people recover, we are told it's all wrong. Staying at home does nothing and is only possble due to the people out working.

Posted by: Notsothoreau

---

That's pretty much the entire thing in a nutshell.

People (people named Fauci) need to be fired and NEVER spoken to again. (I would prefer execution for treason, but I'm a jerk.)

"Experts." Fuck the experts.

Most importantly, people need to learn about "government doctors" - you know: those people who get the podium when there's a national medical emergency; those dumb fucks who approve health textbooks for middle schools, make it "official" that "fat is bad for you," and invent things like "the food pyramid."

These are NOT the best and the brightest. They are merely those who learned how to play the game. Brown-nosers. Ladder-climbers. Political minions.

And because they were so far at the back of the pack, they are reveling in their power over the doctors who zoomed past them.

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 05:50 PM (68b3


I'd love to buy you both your favorite beverage, but Inslee keeps the bars and restaurants closed. Except for the national drive thrus, of course. And they don't serve adult beverages.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (sy5kK)

479 @458
If this thing was bouncing around the world since October, it got everywhere it needed to go to get where it wanted to be.

Lock downs are ridiculously counter productive and useless.

This thing is a scam at every level of analysis.

Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (RVqby)

480 >>>Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Monday she plans to ask the state Legislature to extend her emergency declaration for 28 more days.


Otherwise someone might set fire to the Reichstag again, right Gretchenfuhrer?

Posted by: Citizen Cake at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (HmZuC)

481 Another presser? But, whyyyyyyy??

Posted by: tubal at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (bCLt0)

482 I just want to go to the fucking beach.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (+fPHo)

483 TWENTY MILLION SWABS you guys!


Twenty Million!!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (+xeiL)

484 468 >>We already do contract tracing for some reportable diseases. If you get syphilis, or tuberculosis, or rabies, or a dozen other diseases most people never see, the county and/or state health authorities are going to want to figure out where you got it and who you may have given it to.


Which makes sense. However, the tracing they want is more proactive: they track your location an everyone with whom you are in close proximity, store it for ??? and then later, if someone gets Wuhan flu they check contacts.

I guess years on seeing privacy eroded thanks to tech has made me wary -- especially when it's in partnership with the state (and especially with newbie tyrants such as Whitmer).
Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (bDqIh)

I think it is outlawed for AIDS

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (JFO2v)

485 464 So apparently I haven't missed a thing. From what little I've seen it sounds like every other presser, including the same dumbass questions.
Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (cF8AT)

Exactly.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (H8QX8)

486 Weasel - OT - danggit missed the Garand thread yesterday. Only had one addition to make (on proper loading technique).

And wow - you nailed that plate 8 times from 100yds - was that a 10-inch plate, or 8-inch?

Dang, brother, some fine shooting, for a normal M1, and regular ammo.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (El6T/)

487 By his count? Fuck you 4 eyes

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (85Gof)

488
Anyone know the status of Q-Tips?
I have a full box, at the moment, but...

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (S3UJx)

489
Gov. Gretchen Whitmer said Monday she plans to ask the state Legislature to extend her emergency declaration for 28 more days.


Ask for four years! It will work this time!
-Adolf

Posted by: Archer at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (gmo/4)

490 They don't GAS about tests.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (ix2vz)

491 Most importantly, people need to learn about "government doctors" - you
know: those people who get the podium when there's a national medical
emergency; those dumb fucks who approve health textbooks for middle
schools, make it "official" that "fat is bad for you," and invent things
like "the food pyramid."


Exactly. And haven't seen an actual patient in over 20 years.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (+xeiL)

492 Gotcha! You fucked up and lied about how many tests!

Resign right now!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (+fPHo)

493 Check out Trump's smirk at that Jon Karl question.

LOL

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (El6T/)

494 I just want to go to the fucking beach.

I'm in Norcal and you can't even stop your car to just look at the ocean... They actually have signs on some of our roads saying don't take any unnecessary trips... I'm in a County with over 500 thousand people and 2 deaths

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (5bxa0)

495 HEB had all varities of ground beef, not the tubes, with 25% off today.

Bought it not from the scare of shortage but because of the price.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (OuKaw)

496 468
...the tracing they want is more proactive: they track your location an everyone with whom you are in close proximity, store it for ??? and then later, if someone gets Wuhan flu they check contacts.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:19 PM (bDqIh)


Has anyone in position of power in the US actually proposed this? I know that's what the Koreans are doing, but I don't think it will go over very well politically in the US.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (wGeit)

497 476 Just once I'd like to hear Trump say "I don't work for Dr. Fauci, Dr. Fauci works for me."


If he has to say that, we're not in good shape. Nor is he.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (H8QX8)

498
I just want to go to the fucking beach.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (+fPHo)

Are the girls there the same price as in town?

Posted by: Archer at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (gmo/4)

499
Dr Brix is gonna catch the pneumonias.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (S3UJx)

500 take a load off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-w9OclUnns

Posted by: Abiss at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (Y8DtA)

501 I hope trump knows that nobody cares about testing n ventalators and numbers... He needs to get a clue that its time to open full bore!.

I'll still crawl on hands a knees to vote for him but those fence sitters won't. He's gonna lose it if he's not careful.

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (nzKWW)

502 "Mr Vice President can you explain the various ways you've lied and screwed up since March 13?"

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (iTXRQ)

503 I'm going to one in Trenton tomorrow. Going to wear my clergy collar
because I think the Bill of Rights are rights granted us by God, so if
you see an elderly short haired plump woman in a clergy collar hauled
off that would be me.
I don't expect to go to jail-really-but the newspeole might interview
me if they see my collar. I will not give my last name or my church
because I will not be there in my official capacity as the pastor of the
church which I serve. They didn't send me. They don't know I'm going
although most of them I've talked to against this lockdown..


Its one thing when I'm the one jousting at windmills. When it is Fenelon Spoke doing it things are getting pretty serious.

Posted by: An Observation at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (xr4B6)

504 Yes your confused asshoe

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (85Gof)

505 General Eisenhower, that's all nice about crossing the Rhine and all, but what about the fact that you sent all those Rangers to storm Pointe du Hoc on D-Day, for no reason? The guns weren't there.

What have you learned from this?

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (El6T/)

506 I hope you feel better very soon, Ace.

Posted by: Baldy at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (OLCH5)

507 I'm not a violent person. But I'm beginning to be able to imagine myself as one.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (H8QX8)

508 "Oh, the first thing we decided was anonymous!"



Let's see. This anonymous phone spends 95% of it's time at the same address. No telling who that could be.

Posted by: Guy who looks at the data at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (Tnijr)

509 I just want to go to the fucking beach.

I would like those coordinates myself.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (+xeiL)

510 Correct me if I'm wrong.
Now
The only value for testing is for future analysis.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (ix2vz)

511 Anyone play "Simon Says" as a kid? This is a giant game of Simon Says, and the gang is getting damn tired of the Simons changing their alleged minds.

Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (0KiA5)

512 497 476 Just once I'd like to hear Trump say "I don't work for Dr. Fauci, Dr. Fauci works for me."


If he has to say that, we're not in good shape. Nor is he.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:23 PM (H8QX


Nah - I think that he should say that to all the newsies that ask "Dr. Fauci says..."

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (ZfRYq)

513 Polite put down by the ever-calm Pence

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (lwiT4)

514 We were in Wal-Mart yesterday and the only time I went the "right" way was an accident. No one was paying attention to that shit.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (myjNJ)

515 I'm not a violent person. But I'm beginning to be able to imagine myself as one.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (H8QX

I am way fuckin ahead of you

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (85Gof)

516 494 We hit Newport Beach on Saturday and it was glorious seeing so many people without masks, not caring about six feet between them, and happily crowding each other.

It was beautiful and very satisfying as an American citizen.

Posted by: disnaster at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (SPhkC)

517 First extension was 23 days when Whitmer wanted 70-day extension. Through April 30.

Second extension is 15 days. Through May 15.

Now she wants a 28-day extension, which will take us to June 12.

23 + 15 + 28 = 66 days of extensions

So she basically is getting her original 70-day extension piece by piece.

Lotta fucking good that April 15 Operation Gridlock did...

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (Do5/p)

518 "So what have you done wrong with the testing?"

How does your question help stop the spread of the virus, Fuck you, Jon Karl?

Posted by: Tami at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (cF8AT)

519 I just want to go to the fucking beach.



I just want to go fishing and hunting.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (qjfjx)

520 > I just want to go to the fucking beach.




way more fun than the regular beach

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (iTXRQ)

521 it's none of the government's business when I'm calling you from my mobile phone.

Posted by: Walker Texas Railey at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (nFwvY)

Oh comrade, we will enable geolocation on all cell phones and map your instantaneous location whether or not you are making calls. We then compare your "known" location over time with all other phones in your immediate vicinity.

Besides we already have the logs of every call you have ever made!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (jnM20)

522 Karl "I guess I'm confused."
Pence "Yes, you are an idiot."

Posted by: disnaster at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (SPhkC)

523
What is Jonathan Karl's home address?
I'm just wondering.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (S3UJx)

524 I just want to go to the fucking beach. 

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:20 PM (+fPHo) 


It's come to this?

Posted by: Patrick H. at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (sQq+E)

525 Actual good question from OANN - regarding Flynn.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (+xeiL)

526 I think it is outlawed for AIDS
Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (JFO2v)

Sounds about right.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (Ez6QX)

527 488
Anyone know the status of Q-Tips?
I have a full box, at the moment, but...
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (S3UJx)

I think most are made in CHINA and here in Ohio they are switching a from Dental swabs to ones that the Hospitals can use and I think got an FDA approval to make them. Red Tape Red Tape

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (dKiJG)

528 I hope you feel better very soon, Ace.

Posted by: Baldy at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (OLCH5)



Nice to see you, Baldy!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (lwiT4)

529 OAN Babe wants me. I can tell by the way she looks at me.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (7Fj9P)

530 OAN. A real question about General Flynn!

Posted by: disnaster at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (SPhkC)

531 Hell, our commentary on these pressers are just repeats. Groundhog Day.

Posted by: tubal at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (bCLt0)

532 Western Arkansas has some pretty good size cattle operations. Down the highway from where I live is a large black angus operation, and it seems like every other cow this year has a calf. Future Hamburgers of America.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (C1Lsn)

533 Testing seems like a wasteful activity to me - what will we do with the tests?

We already treat - or don't treat - people who are symptomatic test or not.

Are we going to lock people up who test positive? No? Then why bother.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (ZfRYq)

534 "I just want to go to the fucking beach.
"


Let me take you to the beach:
https://tinyurl.com/ybh5vgdw

Posted by: guy who relates everthing to a Zappa song at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (Tnijr)

535 Heh, OANN, asks if Flynn should get his job back, Trump goes off about how all the things surrounding the both of them need to never happen again.

Alas, I will believe it when I see heads on pikes.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (kOpft)

536 It's me Donna - I really need to know what East German county you live in. San Diego here. Kind of mirroring this area's slow decline in CA-ness, we're not entirely crazy, and I have a strong feeling things will crumble soon.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (El6T/)

537 Sams and sometimes at Wally World has
Sams all Beef Sausage w/NO preservatives.

If you avoid _trates and _ites and _ides it's a good thing.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (ix2vz)

538 536 It's me Donna - I really need to know what East German county you live in. San Diego here. Kind of mirroring this area's slow decline in CA-ness, we're not entirely crazy, and I have a strong feeling things will crumble soon.

I'm in Sonoma County

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (5bxa0)

539 Chi-nah

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (ix2vz)

540 You will notice that Witch-mer says nothing about "flattening the curve". She simply says that since other crises had longer orders, then we need one for this too.

Science? Data? Job losses? Economy?

Never heard of them...

*types*
*deletes*
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2020 06:16 PM

And she mentions a problem that Candice Miller (R) took charge of: the sinkhole. Whitmer wouldn't even declare an emergency last year for the flooding areas in the St Clair delta until the local government made overtures to the DNR.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (/+bwe)

541 RuPaul is Mooch's body double.

Posted by: klaftern at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (RuIsu)

542 418 I REALLY don't like the sound of Contact Tracing.

We already do contract tracing for some reportable diseases. If you get syphilis, or tuberculosis, or rabies, or a dozen other diseases most people never see, the county and/or state health authorities are going to want to figure out where you got it and who you may have given it to.
______________

Yeah, but you don't typically get rabies or syphillis from touching a contaminated surface. The WuFlu virus can reportedly live on surfaces for some time, and we don't know how many people are getting infected from touching a contaminated surface and then touching their mouth or eyes or whatever.

If Infected Person #8765984 got his infection from touching some contaminated subway escalator handrail and then scratching his eye (and then a week later sneezed and coughed all over the bus on his way to work), then tracing his contacts will be a waste of time.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (k4dH2)

543
Half Whit, Pelosi, AoC, and the lot would not care if you were cut up and turn into soylent green. Their agenda is a wonderful State much like Cuba or Venezuela.

Posted by: rhennigantx dont californicate my TEXAS at April 27, 2020 06:18 PM (JFO2v)








Actually they do. Because if you are cut up and turned into soylent green, they don't get the chance to make you kneel so they can shoot you in the back of the neck.

Commies want you dead. Period. And every last one of them fantasizes about pulling the trigger themselves.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (EGyGV)

544 I've been employed this entire time (because, hey! I'm "essential!").

Pretty sure that if my job had been taken away I would be UTTERLY FUCKING INSANE AND DANGEROUS at this point.

Posted by: RKae at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (68b38)

545 Commies want you dead. Period. And every last one of them fantasizes about pulling the trigger themselves.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 27, 2020 06:27 PM (EGyGV)

Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (85Gof)

546 I have read that someplace in Cali had a stay at home order for 5 miles from your house. Holy Hell how is that legal.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (dKiJG)

547 I'm not a violent person. But I'm beginning to be able to imagine myself as one.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (H8QX
--------------

Yup.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (WEBkv)

548 Oh comrade, we will enable geolocation on all cell phones and map your instantaneous location whether or not you are making calls. We then compare your "known" location over time with all other phones in your immediate vicinity.

Besides we already have the logs of every call you have ever made!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar


LOL.
"Why hasn't his phone moved from the city dump?"

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (qjfjx)

549 What is Jonathan Karl's home address? 
I'm just wondering.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06

The most relevant question of the day.


And what about the addresses of the media CEOs?

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (sQq+E)

550 >>Has anyone in position of power in the US actually proposed this? I know that's what the Koreans are doing, but I don't think it will go over very well politically in the US.


Apple-Android joint project already being developed.
Voluntary.
Anonymous.


I might believe that if we haven't already seen how much google tracks bout our movements without our consent. Technically, they get tracking consent via apps where the tracking is embedded and most unknowingly accept.

Check out the Tucker story on this from about a year ago.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (bDqIh)

551 My mask at work, not much above 60 degrees is workable, in the grocery store in 70s was getting uncomfortable. In the summer in 80 degrees you will not be able to take it for very long.

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (ZCEU2)

552 Testing seems like a wasteful activity to me - what will we do with the tests?



We already treat - or don't treat - people who are symptomatic test or not.



Are we going to lock people up who test positive? No? Then why bother.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:26 PM (ZfRYq)



Exactly. What makes having millions of tests out there actually do?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (lwiT4)

553 Feel better, Ace. And please don't assume that the zpack not working so well means the illness is definitely viral. Sometime Zpack is not the answer for a pneumonia. If this is the case, please call the doc.

Posted by: CN at April 27, 2020 06:28 PM (ONvIw)

554 527 488
Anyone know the status of Q-Tips?
I have a full box, at the moment, but...
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:21 PM (S3UJx)

I think most are made in CHINA and here in Ohio they are switching a from Dental swabs to ones that the Hospitals can use and I think got an FDA approval to make them. Red Tape Red Tape

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (dKiJG)



Invest in American cotton.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:29 PM (ix2vz)

555 494 I just want to go to the fucking beach.

I'm in Norcal and you can't even stop your car to just look at the ocean... They actually have signs on some of our roads saying don't take any unnecessary trips... I'm in a County with over 500 thousand people and 2 deaths
Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:22 PM (5bxa0)


I suspect the concern is gasoline. If you're driving around you'll eventually need gas, and they're probably worried about people getting sick at gas stations touching contaminated pumps and squeegees and whatnot.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:29 PM (wGeit)

556
These Goal Posts are breaking the sound barrier.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:29 PM (S3UJx)

557 My mask at work, not much above 60 degrees is workable, in the grocery store in 70s was getting uncomfortable. In the summer in 80 degrees you will not be able to take it for very long.
Posted by: Skip


93 this weekend.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:29 PM (qjfjx)

558 344 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (lwiT4)


This entire shutdown was massively overblown. Early on, we only knew this virus was contagious. But what drove the uncertainty was the U of W and John Hopkins models (and others) of infection.

These models have proven to be horribly false and misleading. Yet, those Blue State Guvnors still are using this false data as their primary input to make shutdown decisions.

Because perhaps in the first few weeks it was about health of citizens, but now it is obvious this has changed in Blue states to an active effort to kill American commerce.

It is the only remaining way to get these rubes not to vote Trump in 2020, don'tcha know.





Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:29 PM (sy5kK)

559 Master Un is away from his desk.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:30 PM (+fPHo)

560 just want to go to the fucking beach.



I just want to go fishing and hunting.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:25 PM (qjfjx)

You go past the topless beach, and keep going after passing the nude beach.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)

561 Cryptic comment on kim

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:30 PM (85Gof)

562 Once more, with emphasis: New York City's Hospital System Was Never Overwhelmed.

See: USN Comfort leaving this week, barely any patients ever. Javits Center closing this week, barely any patients ever. Central Park field hospital closing, no patients.

See: New York hospitals Also furloughing doctors and nurses, losing revenue hand over fist; strong-armed by the Government into counting almost every death as a Wu Flu death.

This urban legend, carefully fostered by the goddamned Dems, is one of their last hooks to hang this on. Please don't help them by repeating the myth.

Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2020 06:30 PM (0KiA5)

563 Testing - apart from diagnostic, to test sick people to see what's up with them - is very important to developing an understanding of any communicable disease, which is part of knowing whether/how we need to do anything to pre-empt or finesse it in any subsequent upsurge.

But if something is not apocalyptically deadly - and this bug looks fairly "normal" outside select demographics - the kind of testing, and connection between testing and life (you've got to be "negative" to function normally) that seems to be the approach by some makes no sense.

We're well past containment phase. For the most part. NYC Metro may still be in some kind of semi-containment phase, but it's unique.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:30 PM (El6T/)

564 555....I suspect the concern is gasoline. If you're driving around you'll eventually need gas, and they're probably worried about people getting sick at gas stations touching contaminated pumps and squeegees and whatnot."

Nah...the're just commie assholes.

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:30 PM (nzKWW)

565 Asshoe fuckin stupid question

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (85Gof)

566 this again
stop saying this

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (iTXRQ)

567 Chanel Rion OAN @ChanelRion

President Trump on Reports that General Flynn could be fully exonerated this week and if there were any reason he wouldn't bring General Flynn back into Administration:

POTUS:
General Flynn is an amazing man. What was done to him and to this presidency should never happen again.

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (bcoEK)

568 The Hyvee stores here just posted they are requiring all employees to wear masks and "strongly" encouraging all customers to do the same. Fuck you. I will not comply.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (dUJdY)

569 Trump has left it up to the governors now, but I agree he really needs to say "push harder, open sooner, loosen up".

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (r+sAi)

570 But since you mentioned Joe Biden . . .

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (+fPHo)

571 holy shit

Asking questions about Biden. Doesn't ask about rape allegations.


Asks about "changing the date of the election".



These fucking retards.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (+xeiL)

572
Nor for nothing, but neither Bush nor obama could list off more than 2 countries in Europe.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (S3UJx)

573 Trump knows Kim's condition but he can't tell.

Daa da dum dum.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:31 PM (ix2vz)

574 And I was at Walgreens, and the lady ahead of me in line (nobody paying much attention to lines and stand here markers) lowered her mask while checking out. She told the cashier she was only wearing it because of the G-D damned tree pollen.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:32 PM (C1Lsn)

575 Asshoe cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:32 PM (85Gof)

576 Trump knows Kim's condition but he can't tell.

Did he say that/

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:32 PM (5bxa0)

577 Who is that aahoe cunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:32 PM (85Gof)

578
I give this nonsense 30 more days nationally, then citizens will start carrying. I'm referring to those that don't carry now, the ones who will make a lot of safety mistakes.

And then all bets are off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:32 PM (sy5kK)

579 8 The Hyvee stores here just posted they are requiring all employees to wear masks and "strongly" encouraging all customers to do the same. Fuck you. I will not comply.
Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27

My friend went to Albertsons and they told him he couldn't enter without a mask, he asked if they had any and they said no. He told them I'm coming in then. No one tried to stop him.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (7bcfy)

580 Did the WH press pool let a North Korean agent in? Assholes.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (kOpft)

581 oooh grim milestone....


MORE THAN VIETNAM

wutever bitch

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (+xeiL)

582 wtf is this
I cant understand tokyo rose

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (iTXRQ)

583 Someone should piss on that asshoe cunts head

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (85Gof)

584 Master Un said last Saturday that you are asshoe.

Your response?

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (+fPHo)

585 Who was that c*nt that just asked if he should be re-elected since more people died from Kung Flu than the Vietnam War?

Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (Dhht7)

586 they are all asshoe cunts

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (85Gof)

587 Masks are the compliance signal that has been pushed by government.

Posted by: tubal at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (bCLt0)

588 https://bit.ly/2SffEtj
*******
Senator Richard Burr sold D.C. townhouse to lobbyist, says ProPublica | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (bcoEK)

589 War with the Norks? Horses**t, Don. Not important, but still.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (El6T/)

590
The president should've stayed on the korean question.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (S3UJx)

591 I don't want them to end the shutdown.

I want us to end it so they don't misunderstand.

I'm done, fucktards.

Posted by: x at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (nFwvY)

592 Take those ventilators as shove them up your drive-thru testing!

Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (+fPHo)

593 "But what drove the uncertainty was the U of W and John Hopkins models (and others) of infection."


If there were real investigative reporters they would be doing 24/7 stories on those fraudulent models. And the people who wrote them and those who QAQC's them

Posted by: batterup at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (K4I9O)

594
Asks about "changing the date of the election".



If we can do it during the Civil War, we can do it during the sniffle season.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (oVJmc)

595 585 Who was that c*nt that just asked if he should be re-elected since more people died from Kung Flu than the Vietnam War?

Adn less than the regular flu in 2018

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (5bxa0)

596 How can people as stupid as the media possibly be employed?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (Uu+Jp)

597 "We saw something we hoped wasn't happening, but it's there," said Lei Zhang, lead researcher and director of the Maryland Transportation Institute at the University of Maryland. "It seems collectively we're getting a little tired. It looks like people are loosening up on their own to travel more."
--------

Uh, that sentence speaks volumes. As though an ivory tower Transportation Institute 'researcher' has special insight, and speaks to the well-being of the people.

It is a typical bullshit invalid transference of supposed authority.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2020 06:34 PM (X22L5)

598 President Trump should ask that bitch if she knows how many Americans died in the Vietnam War.

Asshole knows nothing.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (Z+IKu)

599
oooh grim milestone....


MORE THAN VIETNAM

wutever bitch

Posted by: deplorable unperson



Sorry for that. I gave them the idea to say this last Saturday.

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (S3UJx)

600 Caligirl... that's how you do it. Local gas station had sign on the door, Masks required. I didn't have one and walked right in. Cashier didn't say anything.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (dUJdY)

601 Is contract tracing of any use when the illness has an over 50% asymptomatic rate?

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (cX9dp)

602 Jewells, you got mail.


I am non compliant and will remain so.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (OuKaw)

603 Worst/Best court case I saw was when, just before my defense on some commercial traffic violation for my company, the local town court judge became angered at some local business guy who violated local parking - all for what the judge felt was unlawful even though the defendant presented ample evidence that he actually owned the property and was permitted for the purpose. The judge became so irate at some slight the business owner uttered that he suggested he'd have him spend a night in county lock up. The owner requested he do it and the judge carried it out. The judge was later publicly reprimanded by the county judge supervisor and was ordered to issue a public apology to the business owner - but the judge resigned before he had to...so good riddance.

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (32YRo)

604

Americans have been falsely trained not to touch anything in public, or shake hands, for fear of VIRUS!!!

How long is it going to take for Americans to go back to a life based in reality?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (sy5kK)

605 The best thing Trump did in media relations was hold the helicopter briefings when no one could hear the stupid fucking reporters and their stupid fucking questions.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (H8QX8)

606 Most importantly, experts say, governments wanting to discourage people from venturing out need to better understand why they're doing so. The response to restlessness, for example, might be to reopen larger parks or close more streets to traffic to allow people to get outdoors at safe distances. If some people are starting to drive for Uber or Lyft because they lost their retail job, the response might be more financial aid. For those feeling cut off, experts say, government messages of sympathy and compassion would help.


Shut down streets. Expressions of sympathy.
Nope.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (bDqIh)

607 Masks are the compliance signal that has been pushed by government.
Posted by: tubal at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (bCLt0)


Exactly.

Trump needs to sit down Fauci and Scarves now.

Posted by: Nothing but Socks at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (0QLpr)

608 I saw my doctor - in person! - for my month-long sore throat..

We had a tele-med visit weeks ago in which he prescribed Z-Pack, which did nothing.
So, I finally got an in-office visit today.
This Corona virus crap has basically shut down our entire health system.
He can no longer test me for other virals.. and he has no tests for Corona..
He told me this could very well be COVID-19 even given the mild symptoms.. swollen lymph nodes and bowel problems, but no fever. But there are no tests available.

WTF? What is so hard about ramping up the availability of these tests???
So.. he referred me to an ENT. Who I promptly called and was told they are not seeing patients in office until June.
We are shut down medically.. how many people will die of serious ailments for want of a diagnosis/treatment?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (CjFDo)

609 I want us to end it so they don't misunderstand.
I'm done, fucktards.
===============
That makes me want to hug you in a not gay way.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (7Fj9P)

610 How can people as stupid as the media possibly be employed?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker
--------

Hired by fellow travelers. It's a sort of rot, or fungus.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (X22L5)

611 THAT'S IT!

for fuck's sake the freaking SANDPIPER hotel in Wildwood just closed for the rest of 2020!

wtf?!?!

New Jersey?!?! you idiots! that whole state is committing suicide!!!

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (j9HX3)

612
MORE THAN VIETNAM



Just like a lot of flu seasons.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (oVJmc)

613
The quarantine will end in three weeks. Either it will be by state governments relaxing bans or it will be by defiance of continuing quarantines. But it's going to end soon.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (mht8P)

614 MORE THAN VIETNAM


same culprit. commies.

Posted by: x at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (nFwvY)

615 May I assume the Florida spring breakers from a few weeks ago are all dead like the Karens said?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (N30JC)

616 Trump started the Vietnam War

*tomorrow's CNN headlines*

Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (lwiT4)

617 What they didn't choose the civil war for comparison? Supplies, supplies!

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (r+sAi)

618
I am non compliant and will remain so.
Posted by: Ben Had at April 27, 2020 06:35 PM (OuKaw)

I never had a single doubt, Ben Had. Americans everywhere can always count on you.

hurrah!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (sy5kK)

619 601 Is contract tracing of any use when the illness has an over 50% asymptomatic rate?


no it's all theater at this point

horse is so far out of the barn now it's in the middle of the goddamn ocean

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (j9HX3)

620 To those wondering why MUMR doesn't get IP banned, my understanding is that he tries another proxy and gets back in, but...

He can't resist using his current username du jour. That can be put on auto-delete, so it is.
Although, since it doesn't delete instantaneously because the comments table has to be rebuilt, it's possible to have his posts replaced with hilarious garbage from the MUMR-replace script.

I think I've got all that right.

I was here (lurking) to watch the original meltdown. Brief arguments with posters, followed by greater and greater lack of engagement with anybody else and posting nonsensical manifestos, always ending with "god bless "

Then the arguments with the mods. Then the script-enabled mass posting. Then the demanding that Ace give him Anna Puma's contact info.

It was fascinating. Also, disturbing. MUMR is... not well.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (CGB5H)

621 "Mr President, is it a quagmire?"

Posted by: DB- just DB. To the last, I grapple with thee! at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (iTXRQ)

622 508 "Oh, the first thing we decided was anonymous!"

Let's see. This anonymous phone spends 95% of it's time at the same address. No telling who that could be.
Posted by: Guy who looks at the data at April 27, 2020 06:24 PM (Tnijr)


I used to work at a large mobile phone company. Believe me, the whole burner thing just gives you a false sense of security. Your phone habits are like a fingerprint, and I worked on a system that would match those fingerprints to particular people we had on file.

In our case the goal was to find people using someone else's documents to open an account and not pay. Back when service was more expensive we used to get a lot of that - people would open a new account under someone else's name, not pay, and then open the next new account when we shut them off for nonpayment. Eventually we had fraud investigators onto repeat offenders in about 24 hours.

But I know for a fact the government is doing the same thing - I remember reading an article about a drug bust where the gang had burner phones, and it took the DEA only a day or two to match phones with identities.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (wGeit)

623 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

But the moved goalposts don't sell.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

624
I was here (lurking) to watch the original meltdown. Brief arguments with posters, followed by greater and greater lack of engagement with anybody else and posting nonsensical manifestos, always ending with "god bless "



HODOR

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (oVJmc)

625 Is contract tracing of any use when the illness has an over 50% asymptomatic rate?
---

Probably more use than with something like kung flu which apparently has about a 98% asymptomatic rate.

Posted by: Methos at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (kOpft)

626 We are shut down medically.. how many people will die of serious ailments for want of a diagnosis/treatment?
================
As long as we can call it Corona virus, it's all good. Uncle Sugar will pump our bottom line.

Posted by: Health Care Syndicates at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (7Fj9P)

627 Mr President, I got crabs last Fiday, why should you be re-elected?

Posted by: Menack at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (buTO7)

628 Levin must be watching the presser as he is talking about tis Vietnam war question.
What a fking Leftist tool

Posted by: Skip at April 27, 2020 06:39 PM (ZCEU2)

629 "We saw something we hoped wasn't happening, but it's there," said Lei Zhang


Hey Lei Zhang, suck my fat cock.

Posted by: eleven at April 27, 2020 06:39 PM (Qf83p)

630 591 I've never said this before. X, do you have a newsletter?

Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:39 PM (C1Lsn)

631 Who was that c*nt that just asked if he should be re-elected since more people died from Kung Flu than the Vietnam War?
Posted by: olddog in mo, F*ck BofA & uckfay ancercay at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (Dhht7)

The Fentanyl from China killed more in three recent years than the entirely of Vietnam... remind me who we are at war with?

Posted by: batterup at April 27, 2020 06:39 PM (K4I9O)

632 578
I give this nonsense 30 more days nationally, then citizens will start carrying. I'm referring to those that don't carry now, the ones who will make a lot of safety mistakes.

And then all bets are off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:32 PM (sy5kK)



It is legal for anyone to carry in TX during a declared emergency. It hasn't made a difference because everybody in TX carries anyway.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:39 PM (ix2vz)

633 MORE THAN VIETNAM

Just like a lot of flu seasons.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 27, 2020 06:36 PM (oVJmc)

except those were all healthy young men in the prime of life, and this bunch has mostly been (with a few exceptions) worn out leeches who were already living on borrowed time, sucking on the government teat.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (V2Yro)

634
Has Fake News trotted out "Worse Than Viet Nam!" yet?

Damn. Did I just give Fake News an idea?

"Trump's Viet Nam!"
"Deaths Have Eclipsed Viet Nam!"

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 25, 2020 06:29 PM


Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (S3UJx)

635 The quarantine will end in three weeks. Either it will be by state governments relaxing bans or it will be by defiance of continuing quarantines. But it's going to end soon.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


The powers that be are losing the consent of the governed.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (qjfjx)

636 No point to these pressers... The sycophant press aren't listening to a thing that is being said... They just ask their stupid, brain dead gotcha questions for the "headlines"

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (5bxa0)

637 *Is contract tracing of any use when the illness has an over 50% asymptomatic rate?*

Is testing any good at all?

Testing only shows your status at the moment the test was taken.

If the test is accurate.

Which they have proven to not be.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (N30JC)

638 What is surveillance testing?

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (dUJdY)

639 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

But the moved goalposts don't sell.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

In another time, with another President, you would have never known there was an issue here. This was never done, ever, anywhere, under another President for so little infections and for so little over all population death rate

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 06:41 PM (32YRo)

640 HODOR
One of my facorite MUMR-replace fill-ins, which also had its day with the Amanda Knox loon.

Although as a MUMR-replace, I always liked "I braid my pubes because pretty".

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 06:41 PM (CGB5H)

641 Then the demanding that Ace give him Anna Puma's contact info.

It was fascinating. Also, disturbing. MUMR is... not well.
Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 06:37 PM (CGB5H)

I remember all that. He was constantly asking, "Anna, you around?"

Then the rather quick descent into gibbering.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Working on his manifesto at April 27, 2020 06:41 PM (x8Wzq)

642 623 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.


everyone did it b/c China did it

and really I do NOT think we want to be emulating THEM!!!!

it was dumb then. it's still dumb, ok it's actually dumber now

I'm not saying social distancing within reason, or wearing masks in tight spaces, or cancelling large events. those things made sense

but the lockdowns. NO. I honestly never thought we'd actually do that here. wow. I was wrong.

we have been in SIP for 8 weeks - the only place longer is Washington state. Wolf locked us down when Gavin locked down Cali - the difference it people in PA are obedient, so we've actually BEEN staying in our homes

people here are losing it. they are also very very used to staying at home. it's going to be a transition getting them back to normal. it's scary shit.

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:41 PM (j9HX3)

643
The answer should've been then why do Democrats want to give the Democrat nomination to the governor of the state that has the most deaths?

Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (S3UJx)

644 We will have an economy and very soon, it might be an illegal one but there will be one.

Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (nzKWW)

645 It is legal for anyone to carry in TX during a declared emergency. It hasn't made a difference because everybody in TX carries anyway.
Posted by: Braenyard


Yes it's legal. I so wish banks were open.

That'd be the only time I wore a mask. Open carry and a bandanna. Cowboy hat and sunglasses.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (qjfjx)

646 people here are losing it. they are also very very used to staying at home. it's going to be a transition getting them back to normal. it's scary shit.
Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:41 PM (j9HX3)

I am lucky. I get out to see patients at least twice a week and i also get freed to do some Navy Stuff.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (85Gof)

647 Fu > Vietnam > Hiroshima
or something.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (v0R5T)

648 588 https://bit.ly/2SffEtj
*******
Senator Richard Burr sold D.C. townhouse to lobbyist, says ProPublica | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (bcoEK)


This man is on the take.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (ix2vz)

649 344 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 27, 2020 06:07 PM (lwiT4)


Two reasons: One, if there's a huge surge of cases when things get moving again they want to know before it's too late to do anything.

Two, they still don't have enough information to pin down the mortality rate on this thing within an order of magnitude. That's important information when you're trying to decide how far you're willing to go to keep people from being infected.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (wGeit)

650 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)


"The rest of the world did it" is a shitty reason to follow suit.

The rest of the world, for the most part, is several miles farther down the road to Total Socialism than we were. The fear-mongering surrounding the Wuhan Flu is tailor made for expanding Socialism.

And by God - the Corona Crock of Shit sure allowed the US to make up quite a bit of ground in a short amount of time. We have been conned.

Posted by: Nothing but Socks at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (0QLpr)

651

Suicide is painless,

It brings on many changes,

And the Chinese guv'mint knows best,

For you and me.

Posted by: Jay Inslee, Gavin Newsom, Kate Brown,Gretchen Whitmer, Pritzker, Blackface Coonman, at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (sy5kK)

652 My friend went to Albertsons and they told him he couldn't enter without a mask, he asked if they had any and they said no. He told them I'm coming in then. No one tried to stop him.
_________________

I go to an Albertsons here in AZ, and although they put up those stupid clear plastic spit guards in front of the cashiers, most of the customers in the stores (including me) are still not wearing masks. Until about a week ago, most of the employees were not wearing masks either, but when I went in a couple of days ago, they were all wearing them, so I suspect that they were ordered to.

Meanwhile, we have 275 WuFlu deaths in a state with a population of @ 7.5 million, so a death rate of a whopping .00366, almost all of them old people. Hospitals here have plenty of capacity, only about 20% of our available ventilators are being used, and 2/3 of our ER beds are empty (all according to the state dept. of health). And temps in the desert regions are now in the high 90's or triple digits, so more than hot enough to kill the virus outside.

Time for this quarantine bullshit to end. Enough is enough.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (k4dH2)

653 645 It is legal for anyone to carry in TX during a declared emergency. It hasn't made a difference because everybody in TX carries anyway.
Posted by: Braenyard


Yes it's legal. I so wish banks were open.

That'd be the only time I wore a mask. Open carry and a bandanna. Cowboy hat and sunglasses.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (qjfjx)


Assless chaps and boots.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (ix2vz)

654 Wow.. Trump truly does have super powers... He single handedly killed more people than the Vietnam War!

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (5bxa0)

655 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

But the moved goalposts don't sell.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

In another time, with another President, you would have never known there was an issue here. This was never done, ever, anywhere, under another President for so little infections and for so little over all population death rate
Posted by: Boswell


This was never done for the gold standard of viruses, The 1918 Flu.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (qjfjx)

656 "Cool. Can we do Michigan now?

Want to see that scrunt get slammed."

Over here in the Mitten waitin' for the scrunt to get slammed, boss!

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, holdin' my data close at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (wmfhQ)

657 648 588 https://bit.ly/2SffEtj
*******
Senator Richard Burr sold D.C. townhouse to lobbyist, says ProPublica | Sharyl Attkisson

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 27, 2020 06:33 PM (bcoEK)


This man is on the take.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (ix2vz)


Sorry, local news story.

Posted by: Xi-NN at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (sy5kK)

658 except those were all healthy young men in the prime of life, and this bunch has mostly been (with a few exceptions) worn out leeches who were already living on borrowed time, sucking on the government teat.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 27, 2020 06:40 PM (V2Yro)
------------

Hey! I resemble the latter part of that remark!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (WEBkv)

659 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

Curves have been flattened. That was the agreement.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (Ti+Tv)

660 Two reasons: One, if there's a huge surge of cases when things get moving again they want to know before it's too late to do anything.

Two, they still don't have enough information to pin down the mortality rate on this thing within an order of magnitude. That's important information when you're trying to decide how far you're willing to go to keep people from being infected.
Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (wGeit)


"They" are fucking liars with an agenda and I don't trust them or their numbers and never will.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (H8QX8)

661 We will have an economy and very soon, it might be an illegal one but there will be one.
Posted by: Pliney at April 27, 2020 06:42 PM (nzKWW)
.........

Black market TP and pork chops.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (v0R5T)

662 I still want the name of that asshoe cunt who asked PDT if he deserves to be re-elected. Anyone know

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (85Gof)

663 Then the rather quick descent into gibbering.

Which cob was it that he was instructing to "suck a dildo"? With a #hashtag? Repeated posts to that effect via some kind of script?

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (CGB5H)

664 650 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

------

OFFS
Yes, it's bad for people who are immune compromised like people in nursing homes who are weakened to all viruses and bacteria.

Healthy people, no it's not bad for them in the unlikely event they get it and show symptoms.

Posted by: Seems Legit at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (jUVms)

665 But I know for a fact the government is doing the same thing - I remember reading an article about a drug bust where the gang had burner phones, and it took the DEA only a day or two to match phones with identities.

I have it on very good authority that this technology has been implemented for well over a decade.

The proper use of a burner phone is to keep it off/no-battery until it is needed for outgoing call - whatever you do don't use it in your regular stops. Need to make a call, be a few blocks away from your immediate AO.

part of the reason to keep it off is so that it doesn't overlap and create a fingerprint, the other major reason is that mature systems that track phones that were proximate are in place. So that person who is under watch and your phone is proximate to them? You just earned yourself an electronic tail.

That is how certain agencies build up networks.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (C+evo)

666 This was never done for the gold standard of viruses, The 1918 Flu.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (qjfjx)

And that is why everyone died! they had to rebuild the US from scratch with all new people

Posted by: batterup at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (K4I9O)

667 Damned poll troll

Posted by: It's me donna at April 27, 2020 06:46 PM (5bxa0)

668 poll cunt says it is going to be an early night?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 27, 2020 06:46 PM (85Gof)

669 Curves have been flattened. That was the agreement.
Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (Ti+Tv)
.........

Damn sports bras.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:46 PM (v0R5T)

670 But there are still tards out there insisting that the lockdown is the only thing preventing Oriental Lung Death from breaking out and killing us all.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 27, 2020 06:46 PM (N30JC)

671 And that is why everyone died! they had to rebuild the US from scratch with all new people


thank you batterup you made me laugh out loud today!

hahahahahaha

yep that was sure sad

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:46 PM (j9HX3)

672 "655 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

But the moved goalposts don't sell.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq) "

I'm not usually one to question someone's use of logic, but isn't that a fallacy?

How does that prove anything?

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 27, 2020 06:47 PM (cX9dp)

673 I know why you fell for that Wuhan flu lockdown con. You were scared shitless. I understand.

They ran the same con on yours truly back in the day. Injected me with some hopped up flu and expected me to run around with my hair on fire and be a pawn.

The only differences were
1.) They called it Plutoixin 7 instead of Covid 19
2.) I'm not a candy ass like the rest of you pussies.

Posted by: Snake Plissken at April 27, 2020 06:47 PM (cCxiu)

674 656

"Cool. Can we do Michigan now?

Want to see that scrunt get slammed."

Over here in the Mitten waitin' for the scrunt to get slammed, boss!

Posted by: Boxx Culvert, holdin' my data close at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM

You mean this scrunt? The one who's talking about *another* extension, this one for 28 more days through the middle of June.

Whitmer has argued she doesn't need the Legislature to approve the extension of her powers: There are two laws that give her the ability to declare an emergency.

Only one requires Legislative oversight, but that law protects healthcare workers from any legal liability they may face for services performed at the state's request.

"I have multiple distinct independent authorities of constitutional and statutory power to keep people safe as the governor of Michigan," Whitmer said Monday.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (Do5/p)

675 VTK!

hey!

yeah we're just barely being saved from the MIASMA by President Karen Trump and his lil doc pals and all the Governor Karens

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (j9HX3)

676 Two, they still don't have enough information to pin down the mortality rate on this thing within an order of magnitude. That's important information when you're trying to decide how far you're willing to go to keep people from being infected.
Posted by: Ace's liver


Cooking the books because you get paid for more Covid diagnosis's and deaths isn't the way to do it either.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (qjfjx)

677 Mr. President, why did you burn so many Vietnamese citizens alive?

Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (K22Va)

678 OFFS
Yes, it's bad for people who are immune compromised like people in nursing homes who are weakened to all viruses and bacteria.

Healthy people, no it's not bad for them in the unlikely event they get it and show symptoms.
Posted by: Seems Legit at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (jUVms)

Or they get it and don't show symptoms. Then they go to work in a nursing home and kill the residents. But we won't test them to find out because they don't show any symptoms and we need to save up tests for some reason.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (Ti+Tv)

679 This was never done for the gold standard of viruses, The 1918 Flu.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (qjfjx)


Comparing to 1918 is a bit awkward since only a short time before they started washing their hands and iirc still didn't have the blood typing/transfusion thing down pat.

We've come a long way.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (ix2vz)

680 Curves have been flattened. That was the agreement.

Prayers had more to do with the flattening than did mass house arrest orders and mandated mask wearing.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (C+evo)

681 433
Cleaning supplies have been sparse at supermarkets for over a month. Less than sparse, really.

Forget the tests, ramp up bleach and stuff.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 27, 2020 06:15 PM (S3UJx)


I haven't seen a single bottle of bleach in any store I've been in for the last 6 weeks. That has to be at least a dozen times, and the latest one was 3 days ago.

Once, I saw a bottle of ammonia. Once.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (sy5kK)

682 The lock down is insane - no one would do this for a seasonal disease in the past that will, maybe, at best, kill 60K citizens annually (maybe, given every death is counted toward it) in a nation with 330M people - it has NEVER been done - not fucking ever...its absolutely insane by every previous standard, not even close.

Disease and death has been with the elderly since, oh...let me guess - fucking forever! It doesn't mean it doesn't hurt less to lose someone to the flu or pneumonia or to cancer - it hurts...I lost my Mom when she was 62.

But its the way the world works - to destroy all that lives for my 85 year old dad who I love dearly - sorry Pops, not going to do it.

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (32YRo)

683 623 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

But the moved goalposts don't sell.
Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

I'm with you. The whole "flatten the curve" thing was based on the premise that you didn't want to overwhelm the hospital system. That seemed reasonable to me at the beginning of the initial 15 day lock down. But now? It's bullshit.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 06:49 PM (HabA/)

684 The people who selectively enforce the law expect us all to kowtow when they issue a stay-st-home order.

They claim they're helpless --HELPLESS!!-- to stop certain activity (that they profit by), but you better damn well conform when they issue controls on you.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 27, 2020 06:49 PM (oVJmc)

685 How come the White House press corps isn't told to fuck off every time they speak?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 06:49 PM (Uu+Jp)

686 Thesokorus, contact tracing seems only relevant at this point if there are elderly or other at-risk demos in the positive patient's life. As I said above, general containment simply not relevant 4-6 months into an epidemic with any but truly apocalyptic infection fatality rate (which this bug clearly doesn't have).

But it really would amount to the sort of advisory one gets if, say you're an adult chicken pox sufferer - do you know or live around any elderly infirm people, or pregnant women, etc.? Similar list of questions, with advice about protecting the *other* people, makes sense.

It seems like many authoritarian types and clueless over-paid public employees are seeking "containment" of America's return to freedom and prosperity, not containment of a bad virus. Testing has great value, but it should *not* be a benchmark for current, general public policies long after widespread infection has occurred.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 27, 2020 06:49 PM (El6T/)

687 679 This was never done for the gold standard of viruses, The 1918 Flu.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (qjfjx)


Comparing to 1918 is a bit awkward since only a short time before they started washing their hands and iirc still didn't have the blood typing/transfusion thing down pat.

We've come a long way.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (ix2vz)


A century of science, in the golden age of science.

Yes we have come a long way.

Too bad there are so many people in the press and government that hate Trump so much, they choose to ignore it.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:50 PM (sy5kK)

688 Pssst. Hey fella. Can I interest you in some ground beef? The finest. No? How about some Scrubbing Bubbles? Original 32 fluid ounce bottle, never been used. I've even got some dish soap. Ssssh. Over here, in my trunk.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:51 PM (v0R5T)

689
I haven't seen a single bottle of bleach in any store I've been in for the last 6 weeks. That has to be at least a dozen times, and the latest one was 3 days ago.

Once, I saw a bottle of ammonia. Once.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (sy5kK)

I saw a pallet of gallons of bleach at the local supermarket yesterday. 1.99 each. Didn't look like a mad rush to buy them either. Must be a local supply chain thing.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:51 PM (Ti+Tv)

690 685 How come the White House press corps isn't told to fuck off every time they speak?
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 06:49 PM (Uu+Jp)

Because as a young child, Trump learned manners.

Too bad the press corps didn't.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:51 PM (sy5kK)

691 yeah we're just barely being saved from the MIASMA by President Karen Trump and his lil doc pals and all the Governor Karens
Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 27, 2020 06:48 PM (j9HX3)

Miasma - that is some Crimean war death right there.

Posted by: batterup at April 27, 2020 06:51 PM (K4I9O)

692 .........

Black market TP and pork chops.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (v0R5T)


Maybe this will help with the wild hog problem down south.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:51 PM (ix2vz)

693 679 This was never done for the gold standard of viruses, The 1918 Flu.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 27, 2020 06:44 PM (qjfjx)

It would have been far more justifiable in 1918, since the Spanish flu killed millions of healthy young people.

Wilson downplayed it because Making the World Safe for Democracy was his priority. He never even publicly mentioned the flu. I consider that one reason why Wilson might just be the worst president ever (yeah, even worse than Obama and FDR).

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (HabA/)

694 So what will be found first, a sane and intelligent member of the MSM or Bigfoot?

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (Uu+Jp)

695 Please tell me that PDT raised both hands in the air and said fuck you, you, you.....

What does he have to lose? "Polls" say Biden has this in the bag.

Posted by: Dingbat at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (KylN9)

696 "Flatten the curve" sells easier than "Please provide cover for my Howard Hughes-esque retiring to the fainting coach and opportunity for theater, while I isolate to make sure I don't risk a mild case, and all the serfs who support my lifestyle have to keep working and dying from high exposure. But... I feel so much in sympathy with them, you see. View my hand against my brow. Sympathy."

Turned out in the end to be the virtue-signal wank of the new pseudo-aristocracy.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (CGB5H)

697 681 LCD, check the dollar aisle in stores. DolGen and the local market have had an abundance of cleaning products here since this BS started in the dollar aisle. I guess people just forget to look there. I even scored some tp when it looked like the end of the world. Cashier asked "where did you get that?". The only thing short around here is lysol or store brand spray.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (C1Lsn)

698 659 I don't think the whole shutdown was overblown. The whole freaking world shut down. They weren't all mass hypnotized. China Flu is bad.

Posted by: blaster at April 27, 2020 06:38 PM (ZfRYq)

Curves have been flattened. That was the agreement.
Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (Ti+Tv)


Hahaha!

When we agreed to that, we had our fingers crossed!

Posted by: Bluestate Chinese-compliant press at April 27, 2020 06:53 PM (sy5kK)

699 There is no shortage of pork or poultry. You drive to a producer and can probably get them for free soon. Good time to learn how to slaughter your own food.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:53 PM (Ti+Tv)

700 I've yet to see a serious answer to this, but whatever the lockdown did, isn't Wuhan Flu going to be right back in the fall like any other flu?

Posted by: 18-1 at April 27, 2020 06:53 PM (WdocV)

701 Rhomboid I agree. I was asking about the mechanical and scientific possibility of contract tracing with an illness like this re: asymptotic ppl.

Posted by: Thesokorus at April 27, 2020 06:54 PM (cX9dp)

702 I caught my banana in a car door and it flattened the curve.

Posted by: Guy with a banana in his mask at April 27, 2020 06:54 PM (Tnijr)

703 <<<
I saw a pallet of gallons of bleach at the local supermarket yesterday. 1.99 each. Didn't look like a mad rush to buy them either. Must be a local supply chain thing.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:51 PM (Ti+Tv)



Discount Grocery has pallets of Clorox for $3.89
but they aren't gallons.


Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:54 PM (ix2vz)

704 "There is no shortage of pork or poultry."

This is true. The shortage is in the processing/slaughterhouse side.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (w7KSn)

705 Last week my company CEO was saying part of our reopening would require virus tests from everyone.

Immediately afterwards he got a barrage of crap about how that violates all kinds of things.

Today he announced employees can return to the office based on personal discretion and guidance to follow social distancing, etc.

Another barrage of crap hit saying that is a lawsuit just waiting to happen.

He sent out a *clarification* saying the guidance *would not be enforced.*

Kicking and screaming, they come to the light.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (4k/Uz)

706 I found TP at the little gas station store. Try a SuperAmerica or BP. There was plenty of TP and cleaning stuff there because people don't normally go to the gas station to buy those things. Of course, they're more expensive there, but you'll find them.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (HabA/)

707 For every 1% increase in unemployment nationally, 37,000 more people will die.
12% = 444,000 dead.
Host of factors: not just suicide and depression and greater incidence of stress-related illnesses (including cancers), but lack of medical care, car repairs put off/accidents, you name it.

But let's just ignore all that, shall we?
One amazing thing about the Panic of 2020 is how everyone, and I mean everyone, is completely ignoring the Cost side of the "quarantine" scale. Which enormously outweighs the phantom benefits.

Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (0KiA5)

708 "Discount Grocery has pallets of Clorox for $3.89
but they aren't gallons. "

Does it come with the IV attachment?

Posted by: Guy with a banana in his mask at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (Tnijr)

709 697 681 LCD, check the dollar aisle in stores. DolGen and the local market have had an abundance of cleaning products here since this BS started in the dollar aisle. I guess people just forget to look there. I even scored some tp when it looked like the end of the world. Cashier asked "where did you get that?". The only thing short around here is lysol or store brand spray.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (C1Lsn)

I was in a Dollar Store last week, specifically to check for bleach. Nope.

After events of the last 2 months watching the local leadership, I have come to realize we need to change the name of my state from Washington, to Karen.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (sy5kK)

710 I'm staying hunkered down until I see how many people get sick next. Actually saving money getting everything delivered. Lots to keep me busy in the garden.

Posted by: dartist at April 27, 2020 06:56 PM (K22Va)

711 @676
As I said upstream, in an average year 2.6M people die, 216K a month, even with them cooking the books to the tune of 80pct, Chinese Bat Flu has literally added only a week and a day of extra deaths.

This is a scam at every level of analysis.

It's literally the most fact free, science free operation we have ever witnessed.

Posted by: Larry Mondello at April 27, 2020 06:56 PM (RVqby)

712 But there are still tards out there insisting that the lockdown is the only thing preventing Oriental Lung Death from breaking out and killing us all.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at April 27, 2020 06:46 PM (N30JC)
.......

Spread like wildfire it will. Like a nuclear blast. A regular viral global tornado.
The only thing to survive will be cockroaches and gophers.

Posted by: wth at April 27, 2020 06:56 PM (v0R5T)

713 Discount Grocery has pallets of Clorox for $3.89
but they aren't gallons.


Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:54 PM (ix2vz

Maybe they were 2.99 a gallon then, since it was a generic house brand. I didn't think the price was out of whack.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 06:56 PM (Ti+Tv)

714
Time for this quarantine bullshit to end. Enough is enough.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 27, 2020 06:43 PM (k4dH2)

I agree, it's been in the 90s here too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 27, 2020 06:56 PM (7bcfy)

715 706 I found TP at the little gas station store. Try a SuperAmerica or BP. There was plenty of TP and cleaning stuff there because people don't normally go to the gas station to buy those things. Of course, they're more expensive there, but you'll find them.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (HabA/)

My local grocery store has TP now. They also have ground beef but I think think they were out of chicken.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 06:57 PM (Uu+Jp)

716 whatever the lockdown did, isn't Wuhan Flu going to be right back in the fall like any other flu?

Depends. As I understand it, unless it mutates pretty drastically there will now be a threshold for immunity, particularly as mild cases with low load continue through the summer somewhat. With the lockdown, with any luck any affected people adjacent to a "supernode" person in contact with dozens upon dozens or hundreds will have failed to propagate along that person's connections and make for as-rapid spread. And a lot of those supernode people will have had it.

Not really that different than forest fire. Seasonal risk, but burnout has its effects.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 06:57 PM (CGB5H)

717 665 But I know for a fact the government is doing the same thing - I remember reading an article about a drug bust where the gang had burner phones, and it took the DEA only a day or two to match phones with identities.

I have it on very good authority that this technology has been implemented for well over a decade.

The proper use of a burner phone is to keep it off/no-battery until it is needed for outgoing call - whatever you do don't use it in your regular stops. Need to make a call, be a few blocks away from your immediate AO.

part of the reason to keep it off is so that it doesn't overlap and create a fingerprint, the other major reason is that mature systems that track phones that were proximate are in place. So that person who is under watch and your phone is proximate to them? You just earned yourself an electronic tail.

That is how certain agencies build up networks.
Posted by: �� at April 27, 2020 06:45 PM (C+evo)


Whenever you call someone the call metadata (your EID, the other person's EID, where you are, how long the call lasted, etc) goes into a database that they can use to ferret out your social network. That is, if Alice calls Bob, and Bob calls Charlie, Alice and Charlie get associated. That's enough to throw up a flag when Alice calls Charlie even if it's the first call. The math gets a little hairy, but social networks are pretty stable, and just moving around will not save you. Even if you all get burner phones our software could match you to previous accounts pretty quickly.

If you really want to stay out of the all seeing eye's gaze, the right way to use a burner is to make one call and then get rid of it. It's probably too expensive for anyone but actual drug dealers.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 06:58 PM (wGeit)

718 $2.99 is OK
-------------

704 "There is no shortage of pork or poultry."

This is true. The shortage is in the processing/slaughterhouse side.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (w7KSn)


Sounds like a business opportunity.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:58 PM (ix2vz)

719 During the call one of the questions revolved around Experts and was the company listening to them when it came to policy decisions.

I wrote back in the chat that the Experts are the ones who got us into this mess to begin with.

Neither question made it to the CEO.

Posted by: WitchDoktor at April 27, 2020 06:58 PM (4k/Uz)

720 There is no shortage of pork or poultry. You drive to a producer and can probably get them for free soon.

I'm sure the Karens in the neighborhood will be all thrilled with the stench of goat and cattle entrails dumped into the trash bins awaiting city pickup.

The HOA would probably whine about butchering critters in the garage and hanging the skins out for drying/tanning. Hosing the blood out of the garage/driveway and into the storm drains ought to be frowned upon too.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 06:59 PM (C+evo)

721 Meanwhile, the Outer Banks beaches are clogged with seashells because there are no vacationers to pick them up. Open our beaches!

Posted by: Tuna at April 27, 2020 06:59 PM (gLRfa)

722 Sticking pigs is nasty business.
They don't go quietly.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 07:00 PM (w7KSn)

723 I'm sure the Karens in the neighborhood will be all thrilled with the stench of goat and cattle entrails

Take up the practice of Santeria, call Karen a h8r. Checkmate.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 07:00 PM (CGB5H)

724 I'm sure the Karens in the neighborhood will be all thrilled with the stench of goat and cattle entrails

Depends on how hungry they get.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 27, 2020 07:01 PM (+xeiL)

725 704 "There is no shortage of pork or poultry."

This is true. The shortage is in the processing/slaughterhouse side.
Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at

We've got this figured out. My girlfriend took meatcutting in Ag college and the guys can prep the meat. Also all the kids have their FFA 4H animals for the fair and I bet it'll be cancelled. I have my eye on some hogs too.

Posted by: CaliGirl at April 27, 2020 07:01 PM (7bcfy)

726 Hosing the blood out of the garage/driveway and into the storm drains ought to be frowned upon too.

Posted by: ?? at April 27, 2020 06:59 PM (C+evo)


Do it in the shower.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 07:01 PM (ix2vz)

727 I caught my banana in a car door and it flattened the curve.
Posted by: Guy with a banana in his mask at April 27, 2020 06:54 PM (Tnijr)

I caught mine in the refrigerator door and damned if I didn't get a chubby!

Posted by: Hunter Biden with a bad case of coke weenie at April 27, 2020 07:01 PM (v0R5T)

728 >>I'm sure the Karens in the neighborhood will be all thrilled with the stench of goat and cattle entrails


The big red pentagram painted in blood on the garage door will shut the bitch up.

Posted by: Roy at April 27, 2020 07:02 PM (Ti+Tv)

729 We aren't going to recover from this.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 27, 2020 07:02 PM (dUJdY)

730 697 681 LCD, check the dollar aisle in stores. DolGen and the local market have had an abundance of cleaning products here since this BS started in the dollar aisle. I guess people just forget to look there. I even scored some tp when it looked like the end of the world. Cashier asked "where did you get that?". The only thing short around here is lysol or store brand spray.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at April 27, 2020 06:52 PM (C1Lsn)


I haven't seen TP at the local CVS in ages, but the convenience store down the street always has a few packages.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 07:02 PM (wGeit)

731 727 I caught my banana in a car door and it flattened the curve.
Posted by: Guy with a banana in his mask at April 27, 2020 06:54 PM (Tnijr)

I caught mine in the refrigerator door and damned if I didn't get a chubby!
Posted by: Hunter Biden with a bad case of coke weenie at April 27, 2020 07:01 PM (v0R5T)

Your dad had the same experience when he caught a finger in a car door.

Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 27, 2020 07:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

732 Even if you all get burner phones our software could match you to previous accounts pretty quickly.

Yeah, I forgot to mention - don't call your usual clients with the phone.

Also, a phone that comes on-line long enough to make a call then goes dark tends to attract a lot of attention.

Though unless you are a drug kingpin or otherwise are a threat to the State, law enforcement has no time.

One of the interesting side effects of open borders and very lax security policy - there are far more people in this country who are more dangerous than you - more than can be given serious attention.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 07:03 PM (C+evo)

733 Or an enterprising trucker leasing cattle trailers and hauling from the producer to a different packing house.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 07:03 PM (ix2vz)

734 This is true. The shortage is in the processing/slaughterhouse side.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 06:55 PM (w7KSn)


Sounds like a business opportunity.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 06:58 PM (ix2vz)


I think the problem would be getting the government to allow you to operate and then finding people willing to work for you.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 07:04 PM (wGeit)

735
The move that Trump executed three years ago to try to befriend Kim instead of going against him, is proving to be an empowering move for the future.

Trump has established he wants to solve problems, not create them.

Not a chance that JEF would ever conceive the idea, much less pull it off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 07:04 PM (sy5kK)

736 Nood.

Posted by: Sporkatus at April 27, 2020 07:04 PM (CGB5H)

737 The big red pentagram painted in blood on the garage door will shut the bitch up.

Or get her inner Fifty Shades fantasy kink lit up.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 07:05 PM (C+evo)

738
Not a chance that JEF would ever conceive the idea, much less pull it off.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 07:04 PM (sy5kK)

And is the proper term "JEF", or the JEF"?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 27, 2020 07:05 PM (sy5kK)

739 I am reading stories about pig farmers who have thousands of pigs and hogs and they are losing $ on every sale. Not small amounts either.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 07:06 PM (w7KSn)

740 I think the problem would be getting the government to allow you to operate and then finding people willing to work for you.

I can see neighborhood resistance to a slaughter house opening up nearby.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 07:06 PM (C+evo)

741 Ari Fleischer @AriFleischer
22m
It's clown questions like this that can make the briefing a waste of time. The only point of that question was to provoke. Not learn anything new. Not provide information to viewers. The point was to get under Trump's skin. Good to see potus rose above and didn't take the bait.

Oliver Darcy @oliverdarcy
@Olivianuzzi asks Trump: "If an American president loses more Americans over the course of six weeks than died over the entirety of the Vietnam War, does he deserve to be reelected?"


Olivianuzzi's avatar
Olivia Nuzzi
@Olivianuzzi
Replying to @AriFleischer
Oh shut the fuck up

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 27, 2020 07:07 PM (bcoEK)

742 740 I think the problem would be getting the government to allow you to operate and then finding people willing to work for you.


That's why they call 'em entrepreneurs.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 07:08 PM (ix2vz)

743 Or an enterprising trucker leasing cattle trailers and hauling from the producer to a different packing house.

It was truly amazing to see the imagination and innovation of those who sought to profit on the negative price for oil recently.

America. We are the world's greatest innovators when it comes to money.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 07:08 PM (C+evo)

744 I don't know if you've ever lived near a hog farm.
The ones with the big lagoons of waste.
Hoo-boy.
The smell can knock a buzzard off a gut wagon.

Posted by: navybrat, hot house orchid at April 27, 2020 07:08 PM (w7KSn)

745 Kind a like paratroopers.
You gotta just jump out there.
Just go to the door and jump.
Some people like that.

Posted by: Braenyard at April 27, 2020 07:09 PM (ix2vz)

746 Its funny - like Ben Rothlisbeger says, we've get a taste of what it's like without human activity. Oh yeah the left is yukking up all the pollution clearing because that's what the world look like when men lived in caves and women clean elk bones for necklaces - now you see what they want for you, don't you? Foraging for roots and berries? Cool! Living in a grass hut or cave - super!

They'll reserve for themselves the jets and the fancy homes with heating and electricity - they're doing it for your own good, so quick you're complaining...ingrates!

Posted by: Boswell at April 27, 2020 07:09 PM (32YRo)

747 Yeah, I forgot to mention - don't call your usual clients with the phone.

Also, a phone that comes on-line long enough to make a call then goes dark tends to attract a lot of attention.


If you don't call the people you need to call, you're not going to find your phone very useful. And yeah, while we at the phone company didn't care if you made one call and then went dark, it's probably something the DEA looks for. They're still going to have a hell of a time proving it's you, though they can probably tap your call if the person on the other end of the call isn't also using a one time burner.

The scary thing for criminals is a stinger. They can record every call in your neighborhood if they really want to and can get a judge to sign off.

Posted by: Ace's liver at April 27, 2020 07:09 PM (wGeit)

748 I am reading stories about pig farmers who have thousands of pigs and hogs and they are losing $ on every sale. Not small amounts either.

I'm sure you are. Its all part of the effort to maintain the FUD. Keeping fear, panic, despair going empowers the exploiters.

There may be those people who are being reported on, but it is likely local/regional, not typical.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 07:10 PM (C+evo)

749 If you don't call the people you need to call, you're not going to find your phone very useful.

Though we are on the same topic, we are talking about very different clients and use cases.

The burner phone should be thought more of as a community phone if this is to be used by those who normally attract the attention of three letter agencies.

Posted by: 🐧 at April 27, 2020 07:13 PM (C+evo)

750 been (with a few exceptions) worn out leeches who were already living on borrowed time, sucking on the government teat.

Your continued bigotry is amusing. I wonder if the powers that be here will eventually recognize that you are a bigot.

Posted by: An Observation at April 27, 2020 07:15 PM (xr4B6)

751 https://fxn.ws/3cUnC32
*******
Gregg Jarrett: New evidence on Michael Flynn drop all charges and let him sue his persecutors | Fox News

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 27, 2020 07:27 PM (bcoEK)

752 Our "expert" governor in Illinois compelled the Army Corps of Engineers to spend millions of our dollars to install 3,000 beds and reconfigure the ventilation system in McCormick Place in Chicago in order to accommodate patients. They are dismantling 2,000 beds as we speak due to lack of need.

Posted by: Sewer Urchin at April 27, 2020 07:38 PM (B9OsQ)

753 I said the hell with the lock down and went to work today. The electronic pass let me in the building. So I got busy. Took a break and deleted a lot of email from every company in the universe letting me know they were still there for me. A then there were two magic emails. One telling me a controller needed to be set for a manufacturing process. WooHoo an essential job, and another email with fill in your name, you are an essential worker. I get to to back to work!
Um....wait a minute. What the hell just happened? It was a lot more fun when I was breaking the rules.

I remember a old Walt Disney show where some kid said, "A stolen watermelon always tastes the best!"

Posted by: FlimFlammed at April 27, 2020 07:53 PM (ZTDnL)

754 We will fool them all: turn off your location finder under privacy settings, Have had mine off for 6 weeks.

Posted by: KEK at April 27, 2020 07:57 PM (OI86o)

755 649 344 Why is it important that we do all these tests? What is their aim? What does a test do? Is it just so they can plot their charts? 
---

I think part of the reason is they need to be able to justify the shutdowns and the only way they can do that is to keep testing until they get to, I don't know, millions and millions of cases. And they have to get to at least 60,000 deaths because that's what their model says.

Posted by: Sillyme at April 27, 2020 08:00 PM (RPGAd)

756 I have taken absolutely NO steps to protect myself from this virus. I go where I want, when I want, and I do as I please and I feel just...I feel just...ARRGH! GACK! MY LUNGS! THEY'RE-THEY'RE BURNING UP! THE PAIN MY GOD THE PAIN! SOMEBODY PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE ARRRGGGHHH!!!

(Just kidding. I'm doing fine, thank you.)

Posted by: jbspry at April 27, 2020 08:28 PM (8V4Sv)

757 >>Two reasons: One, if there's a huge surge of cases when things get
moving again they want to know before it's too late to do anything.



Two, they still don't have enough information to pin down the
mortality rate on this thing within an order of magnitude. That's
important information when you're trying to decide how far you're
willing to go to keep people from being infected.,["Ace's Liver"]
Nonsense on stilts. There is never a "huge surge" of cold viruses in the summer.
They DO HAVE THE INFORMATION to pin down the mortality rate as LESS THAN FLU. Under that, "orders of magnitude" are utterly insignificant. Is it 0.1 or 0.01 percent? is an "order of magnitude" difference.
Ace's Liver, you must be a moby. I've looked at all your posts in this thread and they uniformly, and ill-informedly, push the Dim party line on the destruction of our way of life.

Posted by: Beverly at April 27, 2020 09:27 PM (0KiA5)

758 Alas the Virginia opinion on gun ranges only replies to a single range in Lynchburg were were parties to the law suit.

Ever notice that pro-freedom rulings are absurdly narrow and pro-tyranny rulings are ridiculously broad?

Posted by: WarEagle82 at April 27, 2020 09:29 PM (+Kpte)

759 Illinois employers are now telling employees that starting May 1st that entering the state is against the law if you're not wearing a filter mask May 1st.

Posted by: ron n. at April 27, 2020 10:32 PM (om5HK)

760 Went to the local Home Depot. Clerk at the door had a tablet , counting the number of customers allowed in. She put up her hand, gesturing for me to stop, but I ignored her. I was not snappish or rude, just walked past her. There was a security guard next to her, he looked all of 75 pounds, and 75 years. He didn't say anything, either. Of course, I happened to be open carrying, perhaps that was a factor. And when it hit 113 in Tucson, very few will be wearing a mask.

Posted by: jasonj at April 27, 2020 11:56 PM (qSQLQ)

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