Mid-Morning Art Thread [Kris]

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The Flood
Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni

To call the Sistine Chapel ceiling a masterpiece is to rob the Ceiling of a special honor very few works of art possess. “Masterpiece” seems too simplistic for something that is beyond description and is one of the greatest works of art in the world of all time. While his name was already secure among the greatest artists of the Renaissance, after the four years it took to create this massive work, Michelangelo became immortal. Unfortunately the work is too large to give it its due here, so I will discuss one scene, “The Deluge”. The entire work should be understood as one whole piece, however, with one single message — it is a enormous allegory of Jesus Christ.

Contrary to popular legend, the artist did not paint the Ceiling on his back; he stood the entire time, and did it almost entirely alone, in reverse narrative order. Michelangelo started at the post-Flood “Sacrifice of Noah” end and ended at “God Separating the Light from the Dark” end. Because of this “The Deluge” is still relatively early in Michelangelo’s evolving style. If you look at the entire ceiling, the Zacharias/Flood side is less complex in terms of composition, form and color than the Jonah/Creation end.

Despite what I just wrote, “The Deluge” is still complicated in terms of pieces involved. It involves the most figures, with each still an individual. The Ark is afloat, a storm rages, and the waters are about to cover the last bits of land on earth. Desperate people cling to anything to survive—land, objects, each other. Michelangelo kept the landscape simple, just large areas of plain blues and green. A lone cloud rolls through the sky and there are only two trees in the entire work. The focus is the people and humanity in its death throes.

There are five groups of people, each one shows a different reaction to the end of the world. The group in the extreme left foreground are huddled around the dead tree. To me they show acceptance of their fate, although one still tries to climb higher. They embrace each other or talk to each other. The sitting mother in the front with the screaming child is the most pitiful. Her child wails behind her but she doesn’t react. Her entire body language is exhaustion and submission, and she is unresponsive to anything going on around her. She can go no farther so she can go no further.

The second group is climbing up the mountain in the foreground middle. They are still fighting. They still have hope because they have not abandoned their possessions yet. I like the couple leading this group. The man shows determination. He is carrying his wife/daughter on his back. He will not leave her. The third group on the rock outcropping is fear. They huddle together under a makeshift shelter. They are huddled together like bodies the pier at Pompeii—nowhere else to go, nowhere to hide. A man carries his dead son because he doesn’t know what else to do. The range of emotions is greatest here. The figure in front, leaning on the keg, folds in on himself. He neither helps nor looks at anyone else. His terror has frozen him.

The group in the boat is self-preservation. It probably holds the members of one family. The boat has more than enough room, but those in the boat beat off swimmers trying to get aboard. A group has made it to the Ark and cry out to be let in. Someone attempts to chop his way in with an ax. His act is blind desperation. If he is successful, all life will parish when the ark sinks. Another figure uses a ladder to try to climb in one of the upper windows.

The work uses lines and dynamic diagonals to emphasize the action and deep emotions of the people. Beginning front-center, the line of the land gently rises to the left. It then takes a sharp swing to the upper right as the tree spreads out over the water, leading to the Ark, then continues down through the other boat, through the man with the dead son. The people on the rock reach out and grab the line which continues thought that group, finally ending at the right edge frame and the man being pulled out of the water. This swirling line recalls a garment blowing in a windstorm and enhances the action and drama. Michelangelo also painted whirling garments to show the storm but they also represent the spinning emotions of the figures. Only the Ark has quiet, stable vertical and horizontal lines. Only the Ark is safe.

The scenes on the Ceiling are not in narrative order. In Genesis, the Flood comes before the Sacrifice of Noah, but Michelangelo chose to depict the Sacrifice first, then the Flood, then Noah’s drunkenness because the entire ceiling is a portrait and allegory of Jesus Christ. “The Deluge” symbolizes Christ’s death and resurrection, Christian baptism, and the wiping away of sin on the earth.

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1 Good morning

Posted by: A lotta nerve at April 29, 2020 09:31 AM (JdcHc)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 29, 2020 09:31 AM (arJlL)

3 Woohoo

Posted by: A lotta nerve at April 29, 2020 09:32 AM (JdcHc)

4 How many cultures/religions have a flood "myth"?

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:32 AM (X/Pw5)

5 Not enough animals

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 29, 2020 09:33 AM (N8G3E)

6 Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni

"But you can call me Al"

Posted by: JT at April 29, 2020 09:33 AM (arJlL)

7 Don't see any unicorns.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 29, 2020 09:33 AM (l6b3d)

8 thank you Kris

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:33 AM (G546f)

9 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 09:34 AM (LvTSG)

10 Ow, my neck!

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 29, 2020 09:34 AM (dfRN6)

11

Masterwork is appropriate. The Pope's Ceiling i think the book was called. Will check.

Posted by: imp at April 29, 2020 09:34 AM (MCzEf)

12 How many cultures/religions have a flood "myth"?
Posted by: BignJames

We'll never know about the drowned ones......

Posted by: JT at April 29, 2020 09:34 AM (arJlL)

13 so violent

upper right hand - is that damage to the ceiling?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:35 AM (G546f)

14 thank you Kris
Posted by: vmom 2020

Yes; and CBD as well

Posted by: JT at April 29, 2020 09:35 AM (arJlL)

15 Whats the story on the "oopsie" upper right?

Posted by: lowbrow banned philistine listening to Truckload of Art Burning By The Highway at April 29, 2020 09:36 AM (XVCvV)

16 How many cultures/religions have a flood "myth"?
Posted by: BignJames

probably all of them

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:36 AM (G546f)

17
Wooooooo!

Forty days and nights of Skinny Dipping!

Break out the Shiner!

Cannonball!!!!


Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:36 AM (z0XD8)

18

no other

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 29, 2020 09:37 AM (8fB/R)

19
And yet Michelangelo hated painting. He couldn't wait to get back to sculpture.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (mht8P)

20 Was it a clothing optional deluge?

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (vd8XM)

21 Unless the photo I saw was awful, this is after a cleaning.


Here it is before... https://tinyurl.com/y8wke6xd

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (dLLD6)

22 13 so violent

upper right hand - is that damage to the ceiling?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:35 AM (G546f)

Yes. There are spots along the whole ceiling where the plaster fell off. The restorers decided to fill the gaps with plaster but not repaint the missing scenes. IN this specific space there was more of the storm and some lightening.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (rtLzT)

23

Yeah, Michelangelo and the Pope's Ceiling is the full title. Great story of the painting of the whole of the Sistine frescoes

Posted by: imp at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (MCzEf)

24 It does look like damage in the upper right corner.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (J8TS1)

25 Why are these people walking around without any clothes on?

Posted by: redridinghood at April 29, 2020 09:39 AM (wiXsO)

26 And yet Michelangelo hated painting. He couldn't wait to get back to sculpture.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh

He didn't mind the roller, he hated doing window trim

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:39 AM (vd8XM)

27 Looks like the migrants invading Europe.

Posted by: henry at April 29, 2020 09:39 AM (J3Rfi)

28
Shows how infrastructure spending has withered under Trump. I didn't hear about any floods under the Idiot God.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:39 AM (mht8P)

29
Knowing her fate,

Atlantis sent out ships to all corners of the Earth.

On board were the Twelve:The nekkid poet, the nekkid physician, The nekkid farmer, the nekkid scientist,

The nekkid magician and the other so-called Nekkid Gods of our legends.

Though Nekkid Gods they were -

And as the elders of our time choose to remain blind
Let us rejoice
And let us sing
And dance and ring in the new Hail Atlantis!

Posted by: Nekkid Donovan at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (z0XD8)

30 21 Unless the photo I saw was awful, this is after a cleaning.


Here it is before... https://tinyurl.com/y8wke6xd


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (dLLD6)

Yes. That's before the cleaning, but it makes for a very good comparison. Thanks.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (rtLzT)

31 Given this is post-Garden of Eden, where are the fig leaves?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (DMUuz)

32 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (Zz0t1)

33 He didn't mind the roller, he hated doing window trim

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:39 AM (vd8XM)

No painters tape back then.

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (X/Pw5)

34 The chick in blue on the left has some huge nipples.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (Zz0t1)

35 16 How many cultures/religions have a flood "myth"?
Posted by: BignJames

probably all of them
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:36 AM (G546f)


And there might be good reason for the Middle East religions to have one. Didn't their used to be a lot more land in the Persian Gulf at the mouth of the Tigris and Euphrates and that is now all submerged?

Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (WqCOQ)

36 21 Unless the photo I saw was awful, this is after a cleaning.


Here it is before... https://tinyurl.com/y8wke6xd
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 29, 2020 09:38 AM (dLLD6)
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I remember reading that after removal of the buildup revealed the vibrant colors underneath, some preferred the sepia tones of the unrestored paintings.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (Dc2NZ)

37 Too many balls.

Not enough boobs.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (Zz0t1)

38 Frog tape ftw.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (J8TS1)

39 Kris, thank you for all you wrote.

Is this your interpretation, or the generally accepted one?
Just curious, I'm the kind that looks at a painting in the museum and thinks, that's nice. Is there a bar in this place?

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (vd8XM)

40 Dancing on the ceiling!

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020 09:42 AM (dQF3z)

41
Noah's Avoirdupois - a limerick

I'm trying to figure out this new bit
I Googled and tried to YouTube it
But I'm still a in the dark
And I can't build that ark
'Cause what in the hell is a 'cubit'?


Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (Fc5rx)

42
Women and minorities hardest hit.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (mht8P)

43 The chick in blue on the left has some huge nipples.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (Zz0t1)


Effects of the cold water flooding...

for both genders

shrinkage

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (8fB/R)

44 Every now and again I see an article speculating about the relationship between Noah's Flood and cataclysmic shifting of water in the Med and/or the Black Sea as the glaciers retreated after the last Ice Age.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (dfRN6)

45 Unless the photo I saw was awful, this is after a cleaning.


Mr. Clean will clean your whole house, and everything that's it!

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (vd8XM)

46 And let us sing
And dance and ring in the new Hail Atlantis!

Posted by: Nekkid Donovan at April 29, 2020 09:40 AM (z0XD

Way down....below the ocean....

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (X/Pw5)

47
We'll never know about the drowned ones......
Posted by: JT at April 29, 2020 09:34 AM (arJlL)


2 MILLION!!!

- British Estimators

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (Zz0t1)

48 The terror, desperation and and reality in that paining is awe inspiring. Wow.

Posted by: Archer at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (gmo/4)

49 the art is very large

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (iTXRQ)

50
Way down....below the ocean....
Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:43 AM (X/Pw5)


Letting the days go by......

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (Zz0t1)

51 I remember reading that after removal of the buildup revealed the vibrant colors underneath, some preferred the sepia tones of the unrestored paintings.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (Dc2NZ)
++++++++++++++
I imagine it depends on what you're used to. With something as powerful and emotional as great art, the way it was when you first saw it is often the "right" way it should look.

And since this work is not great because of its color (it's great for all the other reasons), I could see the change in colors easily eliciting a "it look wrong now" response.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (hYcqw)

52 Hardwood, before hardwood was cool.

Posted by: Turn Two at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (r+QZo)

53
Unless the photo I saw was awful, this is after a cleaning.

And before some woman decided to touch it up.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (mht8P)

54 Re-upping this article from yesterday.

https://tinyurl.com/y8u3y9fr

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (rtLzT)

55 he hated doing window trim


In fairness, who doesn't?

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (juQf+)

56

...Jesus ,same as yesterday...Jesus same as today....Jesus tomorrow ? This is aboot Covid 19 .. Chelsea 0 isn't it ?

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 09:45 AM (5IHGB)

57 >>Unless the photo I saw was awful, this is after a cleaning.

Another allegory for baptism.

Posted by: Roy at April 29, 2020 09:45 AM (SFgqc)

58

Apres Moi le Dudes ?

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 09:46 AM (5IHGB)

59 also what's the deal with everybody being naked

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:46 AM (iTXRQ)

60 59 also what's the deal with everybody being naked
Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:46 AM (iTXRQ)

The whole "naked in sin" theme from Genesis?

Posted by: Roy at April 29, 2020 09:46 AM (SFgqc)

61 A bunch of chunky muscular dudes in this work. Thanks for the explication, Kris; I've never examined any part of the Sistine Chapel, ceiling or otherwise.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 09:47 AM (rpbg1)

62
Let it rain, let it pour, let it rain a whole lot more
'Cause I got them deep river blues
Let the rain drive right on, let the waves sweep along
'Cause I got them deep river blues

Posted by: Grump928(c) at April 29, 2020 09:47 AM (juQf+)

63

Weinstein reviewing the Film Stills " Not enough Fiscus "

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 09:47 AM (5IHGB)

64

When will you make an end?


When I am finished!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2020 09:47 AM (pV+cI)

65 Social distancing was loosely enforced back then, no?

Posted by: dantesed at April 29, 2020 09:47 AM (88xKn)

66 Is that supposed to be the arc? If so those people are giants

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 29, 2020 09:48 AM (N8G3E)

67 Social distancing was loosely enforced back then, no?
Posted by: dantesed at April 29, 2020 09:47 AM (88xKn)


To be fair, social distancing wasn't a thing 3 months ago.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:48 AM (Zz0t1)

68
Michelangelo di Lodovico Buonarroti Simoni

He signed his name "Micky Simon".

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:48 AM (mht8P)

69 In the Creation of Adam portion, God is portrayed as being encased in a sort of cloth/half shell, with a gaggle of angels.

Word on the street is, the encasement is... a human brain. Which, one could certainly say it looks like one, and if it is, that would mean Mikey was trying to tell us something... important.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (hku12)

70 Is that supposed to be the arc? If so those people are giants
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 29, 2020 09:48 AM (N8G3E)


Party barge.

HEY EVERYBODY!! WE'RE ALL GONNA GET LAID!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (Zz0t1)

71 59 also what's the deal with everybody being naked
Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:46 AM (iTXRQ)

------------------------

It's the NoArkMoMe!

Posted by: No One of Consequence at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (CAJOC)

72 I always thought Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel on his back and now I find out that was Fake News.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (wiXsO)

73 what is in the upper window on the ark
is it the dove

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (iTXRQ)

74 Commissioned by the warrior pope when popes had gumption. Think the guy on the throne of St. Peter today has gumption?

Posted by: Archer at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (gmo/4)

75 "The group in the boat is self-preservation. It probably holds the members of one family. The boat has more than enough room, but those in the boat beat off swimmers trying to get aboard. A group has made it to the Ark and cry out to be let in. Someone attempts to chop his way in with an ax. His act is blind desperation. If he is successful, all life will parish when the ark sinks. Another figure uses a ladder to try to climb in one of the upper windows."

Darren Aronofsky made a not-so-great movie called Noah, about The Flood. There were aspects of the movie that I found interesting, and one of those was the terror of the people trying to climb into the Ark once they knew that they would be doomed if they didn't get inside. This painting captures some of what Aronofsky was trying to convey.

Would definitely hang, if I could pry it off that ceiling somehow.

Posted by: Darrell Harris at April 29, 2020 09:50 AM (iuFgi)

76 I was surprised to see that there was a damaged section of the frescoes, since I thought the ceiling had been completely restored. I searched and found this explanation:

"Only one small component is missing: part of the sky in the panel depicting Noah's escape from the great biblical flood. The section of painted plaster fell to the floor and shattered following an explosion at a nearby gunpowder depot in 1797."

Look like the custodian's felt Michaelangelo's brushstrokes could never be equaled, and rightly so, so this area was left blank.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 09:50 AM (V2Yro)

77 Apres Moi le Dudes ?
Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 09:46 AM (5IHGB)



Nice!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:50 AM (z0XD8)

78 The Ark does not look much like a ship, more like a houseboat. In fact it has very little deck.

Does the Bible or tradition say how the Ark was powered or steered? "Power" of course is relative -- it would have been sails or oars, I guess, not Mercruisers or diesels! But did it have a tiller?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 09:50 AM (rpbg1)

79

Early Warning System - a limerick

'Twas the Great Dairy Flood of Oh-Three
That caused drownings and death, if you please
But why were you surprised
That the milk was pasteurized?
You should've left when it was up to your knees

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 09:50 AM (Fc5rx)

80 Lots of great work in the details, shows a lot of talent. But where you lose me is in the overall composition. There's no central focus. And what's with that sky? Just a lot of scratchy shading. You need to get some solid color in there, make it pop.

Final decision, I think this guy gets my vote to go home.

Posted by: Chris Nunez at April 29, 2020 09:51 AM (8vHbU)

81 A lot of flood myths are very similar to Noah's story - a good guy is warned by supernatural entity that a big flood is coming so he builds a big boat

But iirc some are just about people going up to the mountains to survive

I think there's one where a brother and sister go up to different mountain peaks and survive that way, and when they are the only two ppl left alive and the waters recede, the deity says it's ok for you to marry and have kids
*side eye*

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:51 AM (G546f)

82 Does the Bible or tradition say how the Ark was powered or steered? "Power" of course is relative -- it would have been sails or oars, I guess, not Mercruisers or diesels! But did it have a tiller?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Ten Electric trolling motors.

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:51 AM (vd8XM)

83 Bringing new meaning to the phrase "hung like a Greek god."

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:52 AM (Zz0t1)

84
"Damn weathermen! They said '20% chance of scattered showers'."

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:52 AM (mht8P)

85
Ten Electric trolling motors.
Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:51 AM (vd8XM)


If it has a motor, it must be registered.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:52 AM (Zz0t1)

86 I always thought Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel on his back


He must be very flexible.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (oVJmc)

87 "Damn weathermen! They said '20% chance of scattered showers'."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:52 AM (mht8P)


In North Texas, the weathermen have been mostly wrong thus far this storm season.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (Zz0t1)

88 Meanwhile, out on the boat, Grandma is beating off the swimmers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (V2Yro)

89 And I can't build that ark
'Cause what in the hell is a 'cubit'?


Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020


*
*

I'm reminded of Bill Cosby's "Noah" routine.

"Lord? . . . What's a 'cubit'?"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (rpbg1)

90 The Ark didn't need to be powered or steered, it just had to float until the waters subsided (where was there to go?)

Posted by: citizen at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (ldmQR)

91

I saw the Sistine Frescoes open for the Bay City Rollers
at the VaticanaDrome.

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (5IHGB)

92 Another allegory for baptism.

-
What I learned from watching Jeopardy yesterday: the word "baptism" is derived from an ancient Greek word for "to dip".

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (+y/Ru)

93 What's the part that looks like it was painted over with just a head and shoulder remaining? In the top right.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (l6b3d)

94 Darren Aronofsky made a not-so-great movie called Noah, about The Flood.


Not-so-great puts it mildly.

If you were to give an award for the Worst Big Budget Movie Evah.

This one would be right at the top.


also,


In before TJM sez this was the great movie since "Prometheus".

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (z0XD8)

95 Did they have to make tunic and sandal soup on the journey to survive? Is that why they are naked?

Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 29, 2020 09:54 AM (N8G3E)

96 39 Kris, thank you for all you wrote.

Is this your interpretation, or the generally accepted one?
Just curious, I'm the kind that looks at a painting in the museum and thinks, that's nice. Is there a bar in this place?

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:41 AM (vd8XM)

The idea that the ceiling is about Jesus is the widely accepted one. Every theme chosen for the work in some way relates to Jesus. The Creation, Original Sin, Fall, and Flood all are accepted in Christian theology as foreshadowing Christ's ministry and death. That they are out of order is purposeful for the allegory to work. The prophets and sybils were all chosen because they prophecy the coming of Christ. The large pendentives are about miraculous salvation and the defeat of evil. The smaller pendentives and the arches over the windows are the ancestors of Christ.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 09:54 AM (rtLzT)

97 Not-so-great puts it mildly.

If you were to give an award for the Worst Big Budget Movie Evah.

This one would be right at the top.


also,


In before TJM sez this was the great movie since "Prometheus".
Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (z0XD8


NOT so fast......

Posted by: Waterworld at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (Zz0t1)

98 Cubits, four bits, six bits, a dollar
All for Noah stand up and holler!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (+y/Ru)

99 88 Meanwhile, out on the boat, Grandma is beating off the swimmers.


Ahem.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (oVJmc)

100 'Nekkid' is ... your birthday suit!

Posted by: Boyd Ready at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (07rLR)

101 The Ark didn't need to be powered or steered, it just had to float until the waters subsided (where was there to go?)
Posted by: citizen

The hummingbird(s) are showing a flats area ahead. Probably some good redfish. Go over there!!!

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (vd8XM)

102 also a lot of the men in the art are experiencing shrinkage
water must be cold

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (iTXRQ)

103 Why don't any of them have pubic hair?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (87EdW)

104 Did they have to make tunic and sandal soup on the journey to survive? Is that why they are naked?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 29, 2020 09:54 AM (N8G3E)


And that's when VD started.....

Posted by: History of the World, Part I at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (Zz0t1)

105 86 I always thought Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel on his back

He must be very flexible.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (oVJmc)

That was how it was depicted in 1965's "The Agony and the Ecstasy", a very good film with Rex Harrison and Charlton Heston, but actual records say that he painted it while standing on a scaffold, and that he complained bitterly about how physically painful this was.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (V2Yro)

106 I thought after the garden of Eden , shame came into existence and people wore clothing. Noah must have belonged to a nudist colony.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (zy+gb)

107
Ahem.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 29, 2020 09:55 AM (oVJmc)


It's ok. We're not doing phrasing anymore.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (Zz0t1)

108 I imagine it depends on what you're used to. With something as powerful and emotional as great art, the way it was when you first saw it is often the "right" way it should look.

And since this work is not great because of its color (it's great for all the other reasons), I could see the change in colors easily eliciting a "it look wrong now" response.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2020 09:44 AM (hYcqw)


St. Louis University has a nice big old church on the corner, and the first time I stepped inside, it was magnificent. All dark and gothic, it looked like what I imagined would be right at home in ye olde Europa.

Then they renovated. Painted, put in new lights. After that, it looked like your average suburban megachurch. The change was not for the better, no matter how you slice it. Unless one happens to think weak minded Jesuit commie philosophy is a good thing.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (hku12)

109 Never mind, I see someone explained the missing part a few posts above.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (l6b3d)

110 In North Texas, the weathermen have been mostly wrong thus far this storm season.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (Zz0t1)



Holy Cow! That was a crazy lightning storm last night.

30 minutes of absolutely continuous lightning flashing continuously all over the sky.

Then....nothing.

Texas weather you gotta love it.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (z0XD8)

111 "What I learned from watching Jeopardy yesterday: the word "baptism" is derived from an ancient Greek word for "to dip". "

Correct. It means for one thing to be completely immersed into something else so thoroughly that the thing dipped is now identified with what it was submerged into, as with white cloth placed into a dye bath.

Posted by: citizen at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (ldmQR)

112 >'Nekkid' is ... your birthday suit!
Posted by: Boyd Ready


sure, but when I wore it to my last birthday party, everybody freaked out

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (iTXRQ)

113 103 Why don't any of them have pubic hair?
Posted by: Farmer Bob

yeah, why?

I've never thought of that before, but valid question

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (G546f)

114 Twigs and Berries.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (iBw32)

115 Did they have to make tunic and sandal soup on the journey to survive? Is that why they are naked?
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 29, 2020


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The Ark would have had to be the size of the Queen Elizabeth to hold two of every animal to start with. How many humans did Noah take along? His wife and kids, certainly, but anybody else?

And where did they store the food for humans and animals? (Or did Noah bring along a few extra specimens of meat animals to butcher and feed his family and crew?)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (rpbg1)

116 Why don't any of them have pubic hair?
Posted by: Farmer Bob

yeah, why?

I've never thought of that before, but valid question
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (G546f)

All had lice and had to shave it off.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (zy+gb)

117
After This Commercial Break - a limerick

The Winter Olympics are huge
It's my final sports-watching refuge
When I watch the downhill race
With a perfectly straight face
I can say "Apres ski,it's de luge!"

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (Fc5rx)

118 Would be on an ark in the flood:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (Zz0t1)

119 Since we are over 100...

I just read that starting May 4, Costco is mandating anyone shopping there wear a mask.

I love Costco, but I'm this >

Why is it the longer this goes on, the more draconian the response becomes? Why not mandate masks or what the fuck ever at the beginning?

I'm just pissed and venting. Thanks for listening.

Then the assholes at my workplace aren't much better. They really put me in a foul mood this morning.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (vg8iE)

120 The prophets and sybils were all chosen because they prophecy the coming of Christ. The large pendentives are about miraculous salvation and the defeat of evil. The smaller pendentives and the arches over the windows are the ancestors of Christ.
Posted by: Kris

Thank you

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (vd8XM)

121 Twigs and Berries.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (iBw32)


FRANKS AND BEANS!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (Zz0t1)

122 My thought was completely cut off in my third sentence...

I was saying "I am this close to cancelling my membership."

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (vg8iE)

123 Meanwhile, out on the boat, Grandma is beating off the swimmers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (V2Yro)

watching pornhub, eh?

Posted by: phrasing? at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (/LQkF)

124 93 What's the part that looks like it was painted over with just a head and shoulder remaining? In the top right.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (l6b3d)

That's the damaged area I was referring to, lost to a nearby gunpowder explosion in 1797. Remember that this is a fresco, a heavy layer of plaster with paint put onto it while it is still wet - that's why it can survive so many centuries. But if a piece of plaster falls out, that part of the fresco is lost.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (V2Yro)

125 73 what is in the upper window on the ark
is it the dove

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (iTXRQ)

Yes. And Noah can be seen sticking out on the right.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (rtLzT)

126 meat n' two veg
wedding tackle

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (iTXRQ)

127 Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 09:57 AM (rpbg1)

It was as big as a shitload of cubits.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (zy+gb)

128 continuous lightning flashing continuously

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (z0XD

got it

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (X/Pw5)

129 https://bit.ly/2SjAI1R
*******
Homicide Unit Investigating Death Of The Man Who Drank Fish Tank Cleaner, Report Says | The Daily Wire
*******
BUT I thought It was ALL Trump

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (lT+jC)

130 That was how it was depicted in 1965's "The Agony and the Ecstasy", a very good film with Rex Harrison and Charlton Heston, but actual records say that he painted it while standing on a scaffold, and that he complained bitterly about how physically painful this was.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020


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No doubt it was hot too, in Italy's summers and up near the ceiling.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (rpbg1)

131 106 I thought after the garden of Eden , shame came into existence and people wore clothing. Noah must have belonged to a nudist colony.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (zy+gb)


But the reason for the flood was how sinful man had become. So wouldn't the nudity be showing the people as reveling in their sin?


Or it could just be that Michelangelo really like painting naked people.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (WqCOQ)

132 Then they renovated. Painted, put in new lights. After that, it looked like your average suburban megachurch. The change was not for the better, no matter how you slice it. Unless one happens to think weak minded Jesuit commie philosophy is a good thing.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (hku12)
++++++++++++
Architecture is a whole 'nother ball of wax and "modernizing" buildings can ruin them (though it needn't). When my folks were looking for their retirement house, we toured a spectacular mid-century near masterpiece that they could afford, but it needed some serious work.

They opted to *not* buy it, because the amount of work was likely to be both expensive and run a high risk of ruining the place. It would have needed to be done *very* carefully and they didn't want to risk wrecking a place that good.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (hYcqw)

133
watching pornhub, eh?
Posted by: phrasing? at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (/LQkF)


To be fair, there IS a GILF section.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (Zz0t1)

134 Meanwhile, out on the boat, Grandma is beating off the swimmers.



I guess that's better than a $5 check on your birthday, huh?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (oVJmc)

135 and later, Noah started all the begetting, right?

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (iTXRQ)

136 You gotta love how all of Michaelangelo's women have the legs and arms of NFL Linebackers.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (V2Yro)

137 BUT I thought It was ALL Trump
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (lT+jC)


My neighbor over the weekend suggested that Trump was killing off his base by suggesting they use disinfectants to cure the virus.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

138 continuous lightning flashing continuously

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (z0XD

got it
Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (X/Pw5)



It was continuously continuous.

Continuous!!!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (z0XD8)

139 129 https://bit.ly/2SjAI1R
*******
Homicide Unit Investigating Death Of The Man Who Drank Fish Tank Cleaner, Report Says | The Daily Wire
*******
BUT I thought It was ALL Trump
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani



This was, what, 27 OUTRAGEY OUTRAGES ago? Do try to keep up.

Posted by: Puddleglum at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (DL4jo)

140 You gotta love how all of Michaelangelo's women have the legs and arms of NFL Linebackers.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (V2Yro)


The fight for equality was physical back then.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

141 137 BUT I thought It was ALL Trump
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (lT+jC)

My neighbor over the weekend suggested that Trump was killing off his base by suggesting they use disinfectants to cure the virus.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

==========

And yet, it only seems to be leftists who think that Trump actually recommended that people drink Clorox.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (LvTSG)

142 Meanwhile, out on the boat, Grandma is beating off the swimmers.


I guess that's better than a $5 check on your birthday, huh?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 29, 2020


*
*

Especially if Grandma looks like Christie Brinkley or Raquel Welch.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:02 AM (rpbg1)

143 okay, over 100, so- any thoughts on Joe's coordinated statement, already parroted by Tank, that he's been exonerated by the NY Times, ergo further discussion is unwarranted? Really? Is this the fig leaf they're going with? They're literally referring to the stealth edited article that purged the "besides the other 8 women" language.

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 29, 2020 10:02 AM (87EdW)

144 My neighbor over the weekend suggested that Trump was killing off his base by suggesting they use disinfectants to cure the virus.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (Zz0t1)

==========

And yet, it only seems to be leftists who think that Trump actually recommended that people drink Clorox.
=========

Oh, yes, had to listen to a gaggle of them laughing at this again this morning at work. They think they're so cute and so well informed about everything.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 29, 2020 10:02 AM (vg8iE)

145 and since when is the NY Times the authoritative investigatory body of anything?

Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 29, 2020 10:02 AM (87EdW)

146 Or it could just be that Michelangelo really like painting naked people.
Posted by: Buzzion

There was a sale on peach paint at the Home Depot

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (vd8XM)

147 okay, over 100, so- any thoughts on Joe's coordinated statement, already parroted by Tank, that he's been exonerated by the NY Times, ergo further discussion is unwarranted? Really? Is this the fig leaf they're going with? They're literally referring to the stealth edited article that purged the "besides the other 8 women" language.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 29, 2020 10:02 AM (87EdW)
+++++++++++
The Left convicts and acquits in the press. This is consistent, if nothing else.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (hYcqw)

148 Can I say again that the movie Noah was an abomination. Rock monsters? Writer must have watched Galaxy Quest one too many times.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (zy+gb)

149 >>Steele recently testified in a British court that he believed both then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and then-Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice were aware of his dossier research as it was going on in summer 2016.

https://tinyurl.com/y84ga779

Not a surprise but it's nice to have proof. Maybe we can get Rice to admit why she did all of the unmasking late in 2016.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (ZLI7S)

150 He signed his name "Micky Simon"--
AKA Micky Di

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (dQF3z)

151 some flood myths

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (G546f)

152 124 93 What's the part that looks like it was painted over with just a head and shoulder remaining? In the top right.
Posted by: banana Dream at April 29, 2020 09:53 AM (l6b3d)

That's the damaged area I was referring to, lost to a nearby gunpowder explosion in 1797. Remember that this is a fresco, a heavy layer of plaster with paint put onto it while it is still wet - that's why it can survive so many centuries. But if a piece of plaster falls out, that part of the fresco is lost.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (V2Yro)

What's really interesting is that another piece fell even earlier than that, from the "Separation of Land and Seas". God lost His left hand so another artist re-plastered it and repainted the hand. It's really hard to see from far away, but really noticeable in close-ups.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (rtLzT)

153 Trump wins: there's no end to perpetual corona hype and fearmongering. New outbreaks, mutations, vector shifts...more BS piled on existing BS.

Trump loses: all mention of corona is memoryholed within a week, never to be heard of again as The New Day of Shiny-Happy Dawns Upon Us All.

Posted by: 2020 outcomes at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (ldmQR)

154 Michaelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel on his back ?

Why, were the Tat Artistes on lock down... Oy Luigi ya missa da Trump Stamp.

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 10:04 AM (5IHGB)

155 >There was a sale on peach paint at the Home Depot
Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (vd8XM)


flashback to childhood, and the Crayola crayon color called 'flesh'

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 10:04 AM (iTXRQ)

156 If Grammie's still around

http://www.ci.hartford.wi.us/

Click on
Planned Rollout of Life After Pandemic (Updated 4/29/20)


..back to work for me.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (8fB/R)

157 I am always taken back by the clean bright colors.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (WyVLE)

158 In one panel, however large, Michelangelo captured in detail the story of the Flood for those who will die. Each figure is shown as an individual reacting to approaching death. Images of the Flood are often from Noah's point of view: with fear but also faith and hope. Michelangelo's version shows the consequences for those who have abandoned a Holy way of life. "The wages of sin is death."

Michelangelo chose to paint this as a bright scene, not a dark one where the individuals are obscured. Every figure and their reaction is easy to see. Also, the simple scene puts most of the emphasis on the people. I think this makes the image even stronger as the viewer can't escape the terror and loss of those about to drown. An especially poignant aspect is the reaction of the parents who realize their innocent children, condemned by the sins of the parents, will die.

Thanks, CBD and Kris. The analysis brought out a lot that I would have missed. That is always appreciated.

Posted by: JTB at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (7EjX1)

159 148 Can I say again that the movie Noah was an abomination. Rock monsters? Writer must have watched Galaxy Quest one too many times.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (zy+gb)
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And the theology was appalling. Didn't Noah think it was his duty to kill himself because Mankind is sooooo eeeeevil? That's pure Gnosticism, that is.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (dfRN6)

160 Possible hidden message by pointing out the Lord killed all. Innocents included?

Posted by: JimH at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (NzURT)

161 I've seen a traveling exhibit of the frescos. Humbling and amazing can't even begin to describe them.

Funniest meme I've seen about them:

Michaelangelo, "Yeah, I'll paint your ceiling, but I'm gonna paint a bunch of dudes with they dicks out, tho." Cracks me up every time.

Posted by: Trog04 at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (oecje)

162 Mickey Two Brushes

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (iTXRQ)

163 149 >>Steele recently testified in a British court that he believed both then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton and then-Obama National Security Adviser Susan Rice were aware of his dossier research as it was going on in summer 2016.

https://tinyurl.com/y84ga779

Not a surprise but it's nice to have proof. Maybe we can get Rice to admit why she did all of the unmasking late in 2016.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (ZLI7S)

===========

Rice, huh?

A high ranking member of the Obama administration?

This feels like fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (LvTSG)

164 flashback to childhood, and the Crayola crayon color called 'flesh'
Posted by: DB- just DB

Yep. I remember that.
Then outlawed and had to be renamed Peach

Posted by: Bruce at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (vd8XM)

165
And yet, it only seems to be leftists who think that Trump actually recommended that people drink Clorox.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (LvTSG)


Yeah. It was all I had to not call him a dipshit and tell him to get off my lawn.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (Zz0t1)

166 I'm always amazed at how many people get so concerned at the end of a dead thread immediately after everyone else moved on.

Posted by: Moron Robbie saw a man remove his mask to sneeze at April 29, 2020 10:07 AM (41rs/)

167 I'm reminded of Bill Cosby's "Noah" routine.



"Lord? . . . What's a 'cubit'?"--
LORD: How well can you swim?

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020 10:07 AM (dQF3z)

168 Damn weathermen! They said '20% chance of scattered showers'."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:52 AM
*********
Already lost power twice this morning.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 29, 2020 10:07 AM (wiXsO)

169 159 148 Can I say again that the movie Noah was an abomination. Rock monsters? Writer must have watched Galaxy Quest one too many times.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (zy+gb)
========

And the theology was appalling. Didn't Noah think it was his duty to kill himself because Mankind is sooooo eeeeevil? That's pure Gnosticism, that is.
Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at April 29, 2020 10:05 AM (dfRN6)

==========

It's a weird movie, but if you watch as pure fantasy, it's not terrible. I love the visual design of the film.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:07 AM (LvTSG)

170 And yet, it only seems to be leftists who think that Trump actually recommended that people drink Clorox.

-
Cloroxopolitan: vodka, cointreau and cranberry juice with a splash of Clorox. Shaken not stirred.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:07 AM (+y/Ru)

171
He never got the balls quite right and the pussy was all hairless..........musta been Brazillion ?

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 10:07 AM (5IHGB)

172 151

Either sevaral disparate civilizations coincidentally made up the same basic fiction of one family saved from a massive flood sent to wipe out mankind (what are the odds of that). . .or the core story is true -- there was a global event so massive and so horrifying that no one the world over ever completely forgot about it.

Posted by: 2020 outcomes at April 29, 2020 10:08 AM (ldmQR)

173 stupid 2020 sock

Posted by: Citizen at April 29, 2020 10:08 AM (ldmQR)

174 The Vatican commissioned very high quality photography of the entire Sistine Chapel viewable on it's website.

You can scan around and zoom in on the entire chapel , well worth your time.

Posted by: Fritzy at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (VY+MJ)

175 The ceiling in person looks three dimensional. I'm not a huge fan of it as paintings, but what he does with perspective is mind blowing.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (gd9RK)

176 Hubby gets his cast off today. Then into the boot and physical therapy.

Posted by: Jmel at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (zfNrc)

177 I visited the Vatican in 1990 when the restoration was occurring - only one corner was done. The difference was amazing, though I have to say that the restored colors look cartoony in comparison to the original, darkened hues.

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (ZfRYq)

178 Fredo obama is a control freak...he knew every fuckin thing his underlings was doing in relations to PDT.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (85Gof)

179

The markets are up (for now) I think
partly on parts of the country reopening and that GDP didn't tank as bad
as the worst guesstimates had it even though the headlines are
screaming it's the worst ever. Also there is more hope on the Gilead
drug.



"Gilead Sciences Inc's experimental antiviral drug remdesivir helped
improve symptoms in COVID-19 patients who were given the drug early than
among those who were treated later, the company said."



Now
last week the markets tanked late in the day on a "leaked" report that
the drug wasn't effective. Do you know WHO leaked that? I'll give you
one guess WHO it was.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (XnD7Z)

180 flashback to childhood, and the Crayola crayon color called 'flesh'
Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 10:04 AM (iTXRQ

The rich kids had the Crayola 120 pack with the crayon sharpener. The rest of us had the 8 box of primary colors.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (zy+gb)

181 Or it could just be that Michelangelo really like painting naked people.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020 10:00 AM (WqCOQ)

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Clothes are hard.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (XVuno)

182 I also reminded him that in a time of desperation and the need to come together as Americans, it's the Democrats that SCREAM OrangeManBad and can't do anything but "Get Trump."

I haven't talked to him in a few days......

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (Zz0t1)

183 Inslee is going to extend the shutdown of wa state through the end of May.

then june

then july

then august

see a trend here?

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (d7Ww2)

184 Hubby gets his cast off today. Then into the boot and physical therapy.
Posted by: Jmel at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (zfNrc)


Das Boot!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:10 AM (Zz0t1)

185 There have been at least 3 organized protests by#ReOpenNC in Raleigh, NC, including four arrests. In North Carolina, as of Tuesday, there have been 112, 752 tests for COVD-19, 9% were positive. The state has averaged 463 hospitalizations over the last 7 days. A total of 361 deaths have been attributed to the virus. Source: newsobserver.com

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2020 10:10 AM (Pqytn)

186 >>Rice, huh?

>>A high ranking member of the Obama administration?

>>This feels like fun.

The pace of new revelations is definitely increasing.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:10 AM (ZLI7S)

187 Why don't any of them have pubic hair?
Posted by: Farmer Bob



**********

Comments like these are why seventh graders don't like showering after gym class.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 10:10 AM (Fc5rx)

188 Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 29, 2020 09:58 AM (vg8iE)

I'm there with you. Things should be loosening up, but they seem to keep getting worse.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 29, 2020 10:11 AM (Ez6QX)

189
see a trend here?
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (d7Ww2)


Start a GoFundMe to hire an Italian assassin.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:11 AM (Zz0t1)

190 Rock monsters?

-
B-52s follow-up to Rock Lobster?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:11 AM (+y/Ru)

191 There's a drawing out there Michelangelo made of himself painting the Ceiling. He drew it in a letter to a friend and complains about what the work is doing to his body. I cannot find it, but I remember it being published in the National Geographic issue of the restoration.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:11 AM (rtLzT)

192 AZ Woman Who Blamed Trump for Chloroquine Ingestion Now Subject of Homicide Investigation

Ta-da!

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at April 29, 2020 10:11 AM (XrCyE)

193 >And the theology was appalling.


like that movie with Christian Bale as Moses? And he's writing the Ten Commandments himself with a hammer and chisel?

Posted by: DB- just DB at April 29, 2020 10:12 AM (iTXRQ)

194 Amazing how many gunpowder explosions there were back in the day. An absurd amount if you actually pay attention to all of the occurrences throughout Europe.

I seem to recall that a lot of the manufacturers were usually placed outside of towns and cities for this reason. I may be misremembering but the story I read said the people working there were considered weird.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 29, 2020 10:12 AM (A5zUN)

195 Rock monsters?

Seemed like a good idea at the time.

Posted by: William Shantner, circa 1989 at April 29, 2020 10:12 AM (ldmQR)

196

The Floods Mythed me................ Noah's gay cousin.

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 10:12 AM (5IHGB)

197 >>There's a drawing out there Michelangelo made of himself painting the Ceiling. He drew it in a letter to a friend and complains about what the work is doing to his body. I cannot find it, but I remember it being published in the National Geographic issue of the restoration.

If I tried to stand and paint upside down for hours I'd be in traction.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:12 AM (ZLI7S)

198 Not a surprise but it's nice to have proof. Maybe we can get Rice to admit why she did all of the unmasking late in 2016.



Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (ZLI7S)

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And Susan Power.

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2020 10:12 AM (Pqytn)

199 The rich kids had the Crayola 120 pack with the crayon sharpener.


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Open that box up and it looked like the Mormon Tabernacle Choir!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (Fc5rx)

200 Thank you! I really enjoyed reading this.

Posted by: Iris at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (lSFe/)

201 Balls? Never heard of them.

Posted by: Little Stelter at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (yoQM3)

202 And yet, it only seems to be leftists who think that Trump actually recommended that people drink Clorox.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:01 AM (LvTSG)

Yeah. It was all I had to not call him a dipshit and tell him to get off my lawn.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (Zz0t1)
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Anytime someone says crap like that I tell them that they distort everything Trump says because they have an agenda. And then proceed to tell them that they need to look at all Trump's accomplished and he's the only one that can get this country back to the best economy in the world.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (wiXsO)

203 Writer must have watched Galaxy Quest one too many times.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:03 AM (zy+gb)

Look around, see if you can find the tools for a rudimentary lathe.

Get off the line, Guy!!!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (A5zUN)

204
I always thought Michelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel on his back and now I find out that was Fake News.

Posted by: redridinghood at April 29, 2020 09:49 AM (wiXsO)


Barely enough room for the Battle of Midway, or the Manhattan Skyline on his back. Hard to get good detail on all of Genesis inked on an area so small.

Posted by: Kindltot at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (WyVLE)

205 >>And Susan Power.

And many more.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (ZLI7S)

206 Wakes up
Scratches
Looks around
Dang. I learned a lot about this morning.
Goes looking for coffee.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (axyOa)

207 Sorry, Samantha Power.

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Pqytn)

208 Dr. Fauci at it again... says some sports leagues may have to skip season due to Chai-nuh fluey.

https://bit.ly/2SkUeej

"If you can't guarantee safety, then unfortunately you're going to have to bite the bullet and say, 'We may have to go without this sport for this season."

And there's the standard: guarantee safety

No one can guarantee safety.

And what does that even mean? Guarantee no one is infected with SARS-CoV-2? Guarantee no one gets sick from SARS-CoV-2? Guarantee no one gets hospitalized or dies from SAR-CoV-2/COVID-19?

And when does it end? What is the standard for lifting the "guaranteed safety" edict? When the WHO declares the pandemic is over?

H1N1 pandemic went from June '09 through Aug '10. Is Fauci saying that sports leagues may be cancelled for two seasons, '20 and '21?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Do5/p)

209 Then into the boot and physical therapy.--
You put him in the trunk for the trip??

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020 10:15 AM (dQF3z)

210 The rock monsters in Galaxy Quest were good.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)

211 128 continuous lightning flashing continuously

Posted by: naturalfake at April 29, 2020 09:56 AM (z0XD

got it
Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 09:59 AM (X/Pw5)

we got that wave at about 2 am. A few small limbs down in the yard, but not much more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (V2Yro)

212 some flood myths

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020


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The Assyrian one, and the classic Hebrew Noah story, are awfully close to each other. Nowadays Noah would sure the Assyrian author and claim plagiarism.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (rpbg1)

213 "Sue" the Assyrian author. Grrr.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (rpbg1)

214 Rice, huh?

A high ranking member of the Obama administration?

This feels like fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (LvTSG)
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But you know nothing is Gonna Happen ?

Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (lT+jC)

215 Damn weathermen! They said '20% chance of scattered showers'."
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 09:52 AM
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Context matters. Apparently they didn't complete the statement, which originally said "There is a 20% chance of scattered showers and an 80% chance of severe storms."

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (hYcqw)

216 And when does it end? What is the standard for
lifting the "guaranteed safety" edict? When the WHO declares the
pandemic is over?



H1N1 pandemic went from June '09 through Aug '10. Is Fauci saying
that sports leagues may be cancelled for two seasons, '20 and '21?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Do5/p)

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People are still being treated for Swine Flu infections.

Posted by: mrp at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (Pqytn)

217 https://bit.ly/2SkUeej

"If you can't guarantee safety, then unfortunately you're going to have to bite the bullet and say, 'We may have to go without this sport for this season."

And there's the standard: guarantee safety

No one can guarantee safety.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Do5/p)


They can't even guarantee I won't die in a car wreck on the way to the stadium.

Faucci is part of the problem. I'm hoping Trump learns from this. He's surrounded, still, by people trying to destroy him.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (Zz0t1)

218 I feel like this piece deserves mandatory pants...

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (UUBmN)

219 >>>"If you can't guarantee safety, then unfortunately you're going to have to bite the bullet and say, 'We may have to go without this sport for this season."

Says the guy who probably had a doctors note excusing him from every PE class he ever had.

Posted by: Turn Two at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (r+QZo)

220 Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 29, 2020 10:13 AM (A5zU

I used to post as roc ingersol way back when.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (zy+gb)

221 @MaybeAmes

Cali commissioner resigns after throwing his cat during a city conference call on Zoom.

https://tinyurl.com/yajxyduk

Posted by: Tami at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (cF8AT)

222 does anyone have experience with Omaha Steaks?

I just ordered some meat from them. It's more than I will eat in months and months, but seemed to be prudent to get some high quality stuff.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (d7Ww2)

223 https://bit.ly/2SkUeej

"If you can't guarantee safety, then unfortunately you're going to have to bite the bullet and say, 'We may have to go without this sport for this season."

And there's the standard: guarantee safety

No one can guarantee safety.

And THIS is why I posted yesterday, that if you need to GUARANTEE safety, there is one very easy way to do it: Ban all ticket sales to anyone over the age of 40.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:18 AM (V2Yro)

224
I used to post as roc ingersol way back when.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (zy+gb)


You made pneumatic tools?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:18 AM (Zz0t1)

225 Michaelangelo painted the Sistine Chapel on his back ?

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There wasn't enough room on his forearms.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2020 10:18 AM (XVuno)

226 I used to post as roc ingersol way back when.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (zy+gb)

It is a great movie.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 29, 2020 10:18 AM (A5zUN)

227 183 Inslee is going to extend the shutdown of wa state through the end of May.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:09 AM (d7Ww2)

Did he finally say that? All I saw was some stupid interview yesterday where he said, "The major part of our order, I believe, will stay in place after May 4."

You BELIEVE? Way to be decisive, Governor Dickhead.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (Ez6QX)

228
The Assyrian one, and the classic Hebrew Noah story, are awfully close to each other. Nowadays Noah would sure the Assyrian author and claim plagiarism.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (rpbg1)

The Epic of Gilgamesh? That's a good story. The best part about it is when Gilgamesh finally succeeds in finding (Noah) and asks him the meaning of life. Noah's answer? **SPOILER**

"Dunno". Then the story ends.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (rtLzT)

229 The pace of new revelations is definitely increasing.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:10 AM (ZLI7S)


The pace of new convictions is increasing so much, well, it's literally undefined!

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (ZfRYq)

230
Or it could just be that Michelangelo really like painting naked people.
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Ecce homo.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (MIKMs)

231 I'm thinking that Hell for Muldoon would be a Writing 101 Class. Prose only, and every story begins with: "It was a dark and stormy night..."

Posted by: Diogenes at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (axyOa)

232 does anyone have experience with Omaha Steaks?

I just ordered some meat from them. It's more than I will eat in months and months, but seemed to be prudent to get some high quality stuff.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (d7Ww2)

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Pretty decent meat. I get a giftbox for my folks every Christmas. I think you'll like it.... especially being on the coast where "good beef" can be hit or miss sometimes.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (nw6Hr)

233 does anyone have experience with Omaha Steaks?

I just ordered some meat from them. It's more than I will eat in months and months, but seemed to be prudent to get some high quality stuff.
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (d7Ww2)


My dad used to get stuff from them. The meat is not bad, albeit smaller portion size than expected. The Styrofoam containers it used to ship in were the shiznit. Made GREAT beer coolers.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:19 AM (Zz0t1)

234 "Lord? . . . What's a 'cubit'?"--
LORD: How well can you swim?

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020


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LORD: How long can you tread water?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (rpbg1)

235 214 Rice, huh?

A high ranking member of the Obama administration?

This feels like fun.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:06 AM (LvTSG)
********
But you know nothing is Gonna Happen ?
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (lT+jC)

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I have been told.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (LvTSG)

236 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Do5/p)

How dare you question an expert that has spent his life researching epidemics?

Just because neither he nor his "staff" have ever cured anything or prevented an epidemic is no reason to scoff at his credentialed skills!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (jnM20)

237 H1N1 pandemic went from June '09 through Aug '10. Is Fauci saying that sports leagues may be cancelled for two seasons, '20 and '21?
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Do5/

And Obama didn't declare it a national emergency until Oct 09. After almost 5000 had died and 20 million contracted it.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (zy+gb)

238 Either several disparate civilizations coincidentally made up the same basic fiction..
--Possibly referencing ocean breaching the Pillars of Hercules in the Med, or inflow through the Bosporus into the Black Sea.

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (dQF3z)

239 >>The pace of new convictions is increasing so much, well, it's literally undefined!

In America, we usually do the investigations before the indictments and convictions.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (ZLI7S)

240 219 >>>"If you can't guarantee safety, then unfortunately you're going to have to bite the bullet and say, 'We may have to go without this sport for this season."

Says the guy who probably had a doctors note excusing him from every PE class he ever had.
Posted by: Turn Two at April 29, 2020 10:17 AM (r+QZo)

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Who's guaranteeing my safety on the road everyday?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (LvTSG)

241 Nurse,
I've only had Omaha Steaks twice when were gifted some. I personally, was not very impressed. I know others have had much better experiences. I think the meat from Costco or even Sams is better, but that's just me.

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (UUBmN)

242 I always enjoy your commentary, Kris. Thank you.

Posted by: bluebell at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (/669Q)

243 239 >>The pace of new convictions is increasing so much, well, it's literally undefined!

In America, we usually do the investigations before the indictments and convictions.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:20 AM (ZLI7S)

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In Soviet Russia...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:21 AM (LvTSG)

244 But you know nothing is Gonna Happen ?
Posted by: Ghost of Qassem Soleimani at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (lT+jC)


Until something changes, this is standard operating procedure.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:21 AM (Zz0t1)

245 LORD: How long can you tread water?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
--
I stand corrected. I will go sit in the toilet tank and submerge.

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020 10:21 AM (dQF3z)

246 Fauci still reminds me of a skinnier Mel Brooks. I keep expecting him to break out in:

"Don't be silly, be a shmarty!
Come and join the Nazi Party!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:21 AM (rpbg1)

247 You know who else was good at painting ceilings?

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 29, 2020 10:21 AM (XVuno)

248 Nurse,
I've used Omaha Steaks several times and it was excellent.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 29, 2020 10:21 AM (axyOa)

249 The Trump administration told Taiwans health minister it fully backs the island nation taking part in World Health Organization events , a message that could further roil relations between the US and Communist China during the coronavirus pandemic, according to a report.

Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar relayed the pledge during a phone call with his Taiwan counterpart Chen Shih Chung on Monday as they discussed strategies to combat the coronavirus and other global health issues, the South China Morning Post reported on Tuesday.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (85Gof)

250 To call the Sistine Chapel ceiling a masterpiece is to rob the Ceiling of a special honor very few works of art possess.

https://bit.ly/2VMfJqp

Listen to me.

Do you think that Michelangelo, right, when he was painting the Sixteenth Chapel, that he said...

"Hey guys, you know I did a pretty good job on the first 15 chapels, but why don't you help me design this one? And maybe you could help me. Give me a brush and you guys can grab brushes and we can all make a great chapel."

Posted by: Gary Grobowski at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (Do5/p)

251 ^^ " Does anyone have experience with Omaha Steaks?"


Blushing um well a little,but I blame American Pie..............

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (5IHGB)

252 Whoopie! They opened the regional parks in my County! Trouble is.. It's for biking and walk-ins only... Anyone who "drives" to the parks and tries to park in any neighborhood to get near them will get a citation Parking lots to said parks will not be open.. Oh.. And no bathrooms, or playgrounds will be open... yeah... that works... not

Posted by: It's me donna at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (5bxa0)

253 LORD: How long can you tread water?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius
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I stand corrected. I will go sit in the toilet tank and submerge.
Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 29, 2020


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Frodo, I had completely forgotten that line until your post reminded me.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (rpbg1)

254 Costco has a great butcher dept.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (5qFd+)

255 Yes, like Jerry Seinfeld, all my knowledge of high culture comes from Bugs Bunny cartoons. Or Vince Vaughn movies.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:23 AM (Do5/p)

256
I wonder if the Sistine Chapel is going to have a totally random unexpected fire like the Notre Dame Cathedral. Crazed Muslim shithead seen running away, no connection of course.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 29, 2020 10:23 AM (t5m5e)

257 Costco has a great butcher dept.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 29, 2020 10:22 AM (5qFd+)

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Sams does too.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:23 AM (nw6Hr)

258 Raise Your Hands If You're Sure!

Posted by: Assyrian Authors at April 29, 2020 10:24 AM (sSDbj)

259 The greatest children's book of all time: Brenda's Beaver Needs a Barber.

https://youtu.be/t3QRd9-_kYI

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)

260
Sams does too.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:23 AM (nw6Hr)


We cancelled our Sam's membership when the CO started strong-arming corporations to put black people on their boards or they wouldn't do business with them.

I try not to fund racism.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (Zz0t1)

261 I wonder if the Sistine Chapel is going to have a totally random unexpected fire like the Notre Dame Cathedral. Crazed Muslim shithead seen running away, no connection of course.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at April 29, 2020 10:23 AM (t5m5e)

Security in Vatican City is pretty heavy.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (A5zUN)

262 Raise Your Hands If You're Sure!
Posted by: Assyrian Authors at April 29, 2020


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Raise Your Hand If You're Stoor

Posted by: Hobbit Census Takers at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (rpbg1)

263 To think that while this was being created, Raphael was nearby creating his "School of Athens" which has a portrait of Michelangelo in it. (and himself, Leonardo, and other big Renaissance names)

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (rtLzT)

264 Thanks Kris. Great commentary. Read enough of these and I'll lower my philistine score.

Posted by: dingbat at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (KylN9)

265 H1N1 pandemic went from June '09 through Aug '10.
Is Fauci saying that sports leagues may be cancelled for two seasons,
'20 and '21?

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:14 AM (Do5/p)



Someone needs to stuff him in a box. I hope Trump stops listening to this power-mad guru of doom.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (lwiT4)

266 re Omaha Steaks Imma say they are good but portion size tends to be small and the price is high - their larger boxes are a better deal because buying in bulk blah blah blah.

Also of late I have noticed they are stuffing the number of items in the box with non-steak items, so an X-number item deal might have 8 hot dogs in that count.

I used to buy from them but as I have become a more dedicated grilled I buy meat from Walmart....

Posted by: blaster at April 29, 2020 10:26 AM (ZfRYq)

267 212 some flood myths

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/flood-myths.html
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020
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The Assyrian one, and the classic Hebrew Noah story, are awfully close to each other. Nowadays Noah would sure the Assyrian author and claim plagiarism.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (rpbg1)

I'm convinced that all of these stories are distant memories of the collapse of the thin land bridge at the entrance to what is now the Black Sea at about 7000 BC, which would have wiped out the human societies living on the plain of what is now the Black Sea floor. One possible piece of corroboration: if you were riding a huge surge of water from west to east, you could easily end up in the vicinity of Ararat, which in all other respects is a very strange spot for middle eastern cultures to pick as a starting point.

It's also been suggested that the Sumerian culture, preceded by what may have been the first great city in the world, Ur, preserved the memory of the sudden flooding of what is now the Persian Gulf, as the great glaciers melted.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:26 AM (V2Yro)

268 The greatest children's book of all time: Brenda's Beaver Needs a Barber.

https://youtu.be/t3QRd9-_kYI
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (+y/Ru)


This seems fitting:

https://youtu.be/aYDfwUJzYQg

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:26 AM (Zz0t1)

269 223

And THIS is why I posted yesterday, that if you need to GUARANTEE safety, there is one very easy way to do it: Ban all ticket sales to anyone over the age of 40.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:18 AM

But that would be discrimination. Can't have that.

Better everyone suffer.

Kinda like socialism. No discrimination, everyone suffers equally.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:26 AM (Do5/p)

270 Yes, like Jerry Seinfeld, all my knowledge of high culture comes from Bugs Bunny cartoons. Or Vince Vaughn movies.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:23 AM (Do5/p)

Except Brawl in Cell Block 99. You learned something but it wasn't high culture. Damn that was a good movie.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:26 AM (zy+gb)

271

I'm waiting for Cache.Our Lil Minstrel boy Justin is handing out our future revenue like a CASH MONEY COWBOY... can we swap him for Newsom or Cuomo...desperate time 'eh.



Damn this internet is slow to many Porn Hubbers woke up ???

Posted by: saf at April 29, 2020 10:27 AM (5IHGB)

272
To think that while this was being created, Raphael was nearby creating his "School of Athens" which has a portrait of Michelangelo in it. (and himself, Leonardo, and other big Renaissance names)
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (rtLzT)

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Anything on Shredder??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:27 AM (nw6Hr)

273
Costco lamb is the tops. Also, their ribeyes and Italian sausages.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 29, 2020 10:27 AM (mht8P)

274 I remember going into the Sistine Chapel and the utter silence. Enforced, but I think it would have been voluntary even without the guards.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:27 AM (lwiT4)

275 Faucci is part of the problem. I'm hoping Trump learns from this. He's surrounded, still, by people trying to destroy him.


I'm hoping, but not hopeful. there is a very wide streak of Big Government Believer in Trump, unfortunately.

this op hit NYC - probably on purpose - this was a very very effective op. really he is struggling with it. not good.

we're gonna need to do this OURSELVES.

May 4. Go back to work. Open your business. ENOUGH.

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 29, 2020 10:28 AM (j9HX3)

276 So the law firm that was representing Flynn just found over 6,000 emails and documents they "forgot" to give to him.


Wanna bet that the majority of them are from the DOJ to the law firm in question and include exculpatory evidence hidden from Flynn by his own lawyers?

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 29, 2020 10:29 AM (JUOKG)

277 No discrimination, everyone suffers equally.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 10:26 AM (Do5/p)


Not in a properly run socialist society comrade.
When socialism is done right, all of YOU suffer equally. The people doing socialism TO you, THEY do just fine!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (jnM20)

278 I remember going into the Sistine Chapel and the utter silence. Enforced, but I think it would have been voluntary even without the guards.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:27 AM (lwiT4)
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The Cathedral of Saint Alexander in Sofia, Bulgaria (Orthodox) has some spectacular frescoes, and it is the same way in there. They have priests there to run enforcement, but they aren't really needed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (hYcqw)

279 A lot of my friends have said they will vote for Amash. I support their decision and extend kudos to CNN.

Posted by: Erik Errorikson at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (VMPS/)

280 I remember reading that after removal of the buildup revealed the vibrant colors underneath, some preferred the sepia tones of the unrestored paintings.

This is a thing in a lot of fields of restoration. I personally think things should look like they did when they were created, but it's very much in fashion now to have old things look old and decrepit. And worse, to artificially visually age new things. (I think this is how Biden became the nominee).

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (ZGrMX)

281 we're gonna need to do this OURSELVES.

May 4. Go back to work. Open your business. ENOUGH.
Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 29, 2020 10:28 AM (j9HX3)


As an update, the woman in Dallas that opened her Salon against the county mandate has received a court order to shut her doors........She was abiding by all the social distancing rules and CDC guidelines for sanitizing.

This is tyranny. Plain and simple.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (Zz0t1)

282 274 I remember going into the Sistine Chapel and the utter silence. Enforced, but I think it would have been voluntary even without the guards.


Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:27 AM (lwiT4)

I have resigned myself that I will probably never see it in person.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (rtLzT)

283 Amash is gonna take the dem vote, not the Trump vote

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (j9HX3)

284 Great post Kris ! Thank you very much ! Grazie mille !

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (zr5Kq)

285 OT: The weather's nice and I'm ready. When are the Democrats going to ease sanctions on America?

Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (ELgVT)

286 >>So the law firm that was representing Flynn just found over 6,000 emails and documents they "forgot" to give to him.


>>Wanna bet that the majority of them are from the DOJ to the law firm in question and include exculpatory evidence hidden from Flynn by his own lawyers?


The firm is Covington and Burling. One of their top lawyers both before the Obama administration and after is Eric Holder.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (ZLI7S)

287 So the law firm that was representing Flynn just found over 6,000 emails and documents they "forgot" to give to him.


Wanna bet that the majority of them are from the DOJ to the law firm in question and include exculpatory evidence hidden from Flynn by his own lawyers?
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 29, 2020 10:29 AM (JUOKG)


We need firing squads. When there are no consequences, there tends to be LOTS of corruption.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (Zz0t1)

288 I have resigned myself that I will probably never see it in person.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (rtLzT)


Of course you will. Why not ?

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (zr5Kq)

289 I have resigned myself that I will probably never see it in person.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (rtLzT)

damnit
damn wuflu
almost got there ...

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (G546f)

290 That Ark doesn't look like the one in Kentucky.

Posted by: dingbat at April 29, 2020 10:32 AM (KylN9)

291 A lot of my friends have said they will vote for Amash. I support their decision and extend kudos to CNN.

On the Twatters this morning the big thing was "Ross Perot was right about shipping jobs overseas, so we should vote for Amash because he's also third-party".

I am not making this up.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 29, 2020 10:32 AM (ZGrMX)

292 Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 29, 2020 10:29 AM (JUOKG)

Caught a little bit of the tap dance yesterday by good old icon Andy McCarthy about how "mistakes were made" (at least that is the way that I heard it).

I think he is still shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that there is corruption going on wherever and whenever government prosecutors are involved!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 29, 2020 10:33 AM (jnM20)

293 Very well written.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 29, 2020 10:33 AM (pdLwl)

294 Sistine Chapel.

I was TDY in Italy and we managed to get our CO to allow a few of us into Rome the night before our plane left Leonardo da Vinci. After a seven hour bus trip and a hair raising white knuckle trip in a Roma taxi, we managed to get to our USO hotel and then hustle over to the Vatican. To find out the Sistine Chapel had closed one before.

One day I do plan to go back and see it.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (qsfSB)

295 "Amash is gonna take Democrat votes"

Not so! Some of my good friends who are Republicans have lost confidence in Trump and are looking for an alternative.

Posted by: Erik Errorikson at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (VMPS/)

296 damnit

damn wuflu

almost got there ...

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (G546f)



I remember how excited you were, planning your trip to Italy. I remember B.C. (Before Corona) how you were trying to decide what cities to visit. You'll get there one day. Soon, I hope.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (lwiT4)

297 Well, NH and MA morons, if you're Market Basket shoppers, get ready to bow to the Karens. This is in my neck of the woods, but I guarantee it's coming to them all:

https://tinyurl.com/ydz43bvd

I sent off an e-mail to Artie T, telling him that I'm boycotting and encouraging others to. Not that I make a difference, but I will be damned if I bow to this garbage "science."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (2JVJo)

298
One day I do plan to go back and see it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (qsfSB)


Good luck with that.

- Chink Lung Chunk

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (Zz0t1)

299 Joe Biden Says He Will Keep Calling Hillary For Advice

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The captain of the Titanic also has some good advice.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (+y/Ru)

300 Some of my good friends who are Republicans have lost confidence in Trump and are looking for an alternative.
Posted by: Erik Errorikson at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (VMPS/)

I bet some of your best friends are Jewish also ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:36 AM (85Gof)

301 One day I do plan to go back and see it.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (qsfSB)


Anna, I hope you make it, it is an awe inspiring place!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 29, 2020 10:36 AM (jnM20)

302 A good book about the Sistine Chapel restoration is this one:

tinyurl.com/y797dgsd

I have this one. The pictures are fantastic and the essays are informative. It's a really good example of how art historians think. It covers the ceiling mostly, but there is a section on the Last Judgement too. It has many of M.'s sketches too so you can see his thought process and the evolution of the idea.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:36 AM (rtLzT)

303 I'm convinced that all of these stories are distant memories of the collapse of the thin land bridge at the entrance to what is now the Black Sea at about 7000 BC, which would have wiped out the human societies living on the plain of what is now the Black Sea floor. One possible piece of corroboration: if you were riding a huge surge of water from west to east, you could easily end up in the vicinity of Ararat, which in all other respects is a very strange spot for middle eastern cultures to pick as a starting point. . . .

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020


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I hadn't heard about this theory. I'd always read that the destruction of Knossos by a gigantic volcanic eruption, resulting in a tidal wave that flooded the shores of the eastern Mediterranean, was the main theory.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)

304 Joe Biden Says He Will Keep Calling Hillary For Advice

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The captain of the Titanic also has some good advice.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (+y/Ru)


Should be an ender.

Alas, he'll still get 60 million votes.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (Zz0t1)

305 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (2JVJo)

Nice how they misspelled Governor.

Posted by: Jordan61 at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (Ez6QX)

306 thanks grammie

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (G546f)

307 Why yes, some of my good friends are Jewish Republicans.

Posted by: Erik Errorikson at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (VMPS/)

308 299
Joe Biden Says He Will Keep Calling Hillary For Advice



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The captain of the Titanic also has some good advice.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (+y/Ru)
The Democratic bitch Mitt Romney could also provide some helpful advice on debating and how to throw a fight.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 29, 2020 10:38 AM (N39Ws)

309 Joe Biden Says He Will Keep Calling Hillary For Advice

With Hillary's advice and Obama's endorsement, how can he lose!

Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2020 10:38 AM (l0Lgi)

310 Kris,

Have you read Michelangelo and the Pope's Ceiling by Ross King?

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:38 AM (qsfSB)

311 >>So the law firm that was representing Flynn just found over 6,000 emails and documents they "forgot" to give to him.


>>Wanna bet that the majority of them are from the DOJ to the law firm in question and include exculpatory evidence hidden from Flynn by his own lawyers?


The firm is Covington and Burling. One of their top lawyers both before the Obama administration and after is Eric Holder.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (ZLI7S)
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That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, why did Gen. Flynn hire the firm that was tied into his wrongful prosecution in the first place, to represent him? The Obama administration had him coming and going, that's what scares the hell out of me. They initiated a bogus prosecution and then got him to hire them to "represent" him in court. Banana republic time.

Posted by: Boots at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (oGBso)

312 The Democratic bitch Mitt Romney could also provide some helpful advice on debating and how to throw a fight.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 29, 2020 10:38 AM (N39Ws)


HEY! HEY GUYS!!!!

I'M OVER HERE!!!!!

Posted by: Paul Ryan at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (Zz0t1)

313 Joe Biden Says He Will Keep Calling Hillary For Advice

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The captain of the Titanic also has some good advice.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020


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"Uh, Joe? A General Custer for you on Line One."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (rpbg1)

314 I'm convinced that all of these stories are distant memories of the collapse of the thin land bridge at the entrance to what is now the Black Sea at about 7000 BC, which would have wiped out the human societies living on the plain of what is now the Black Sea floor. One possible piece of corroboration: if you were riding a huge surge of water from west to east, you could easily end up in the vicinity of Ararat, which in all other respects is a very strange spot for middle eastern cultures to pick as a starting point. . . .

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020

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I hadn't heard about this theory. I'd always read that the destruction of Knossos by a gigantic volcanic eruption, resulting in a tidal wave that flooded the shores of the eastern Mediterranean, was the main theory.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)

It is not a theory, The land bridge collapse did happen. Now whether that is the origin of the flood story is a theory. But I happen to give it credence

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (85Gof)

315 288 I have resigned myself that I will probably never see it in person.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:30 AM (rtLzT)


Of course you will. Why not ?

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:31 AM (zr5Kq)

Life. I'm like the woman in the Flood... completely accepting of my circumstances.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (rtLzT)

316 ...and why aren't I 50 points ahead...

https://youtu.be/pQANTdKJSYE

Posted by: Winston at April 29, 2020 10:40 AM (RyWXu)

317 With Hillary's advice and Obama's endorsement, how can he lose!
Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2020 10:38 AM (l0Lgi)


We hold these truths to be self intercourse! All men are one with their.......the thing....you know! The THING!!! HULK SMASH!!!!

Posted by: Joe "Ruprecht" Biden at April 29, 2020 10:40 AM (Zz0t1)

318 That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, why did Gen. Flynn hire the firm that was tied into his wrongful prosecution in the first place, to represent him? The Obama administration had him coming and going, that's what scares the hell out of me. They initiated a bogus prosecution and then got him to hire them to "represent" him in court. Banana republic time.
Posted by: Boots at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (oGBso)

Which is why, although I hope Flynn sues and wins billions, I think his judgement is piss poor and I never want him anywhere near the PDT Admin and never did from the get go

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (85Gof)

319
Life. I'm like the woman in the Flood...

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (rtLzT)


Your nipples are insanely huge?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (Zz0t1)

320 Hanging assholes from telephone poles qualifies as social distancing and social justice. Just Do It!

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (iBw32)

321 The Black Sea Deluge

Wolfus, Ballard, guy who found the Titanic, in one of his videos about the wrecks of the Black Sea mentions the incident.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (qsfSB)

322 There is a whole lot of gay going on in that painting.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (+0AKE)

323 Awesome picture and description.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (apda1)

324 Great work, Kris

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 29, 2020 10:42 AM (l4C/z)

325 >>That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, why did Gen. Flynn hire the firm that was tied into his wrongful prosecution in the first place, to represent him? The Obama administration had him coming and going, that's what scares the hell out of me. They initiated a bogus prosecution and then got him to hire them to "represent" him in court. Banana republic time.

It's a very good question that I have been wondering about for literally years.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:42 AM (ZLI7S)

326 Hanging assholes from telephone poles qualifies as social distancing and social justice. Just Do It!
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 29, 2020 10:41 AM (iBw32)


This is about me, isn't it......

Posted by: Bloated Pork Rectum at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (Zz0t1)

327 That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, why did Gen. Flynn hire the firm that was tied into his wrongful prosecution in the first place, to represent him? The Obama administration had him coming and going, that's what scares the hell out of me. They initiated a bogus prosecution and then got him to hire them to "represent" him in court. Banana republic time.
Posted by: Boots at April 29, 2020 10:39 AM (oGBso)

Which is why, although I hope Flynn sues and wins billions, I think his judgement is piss poor and I never want him anywhere near the PDT Admin and never did from the get go
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020



meh, who would ever think that they were so evil that they would screw their own client in this way?

it is something you would see in a bad movie.

Posted by: not so at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (HALdu)

328 I hadn't heard about this theory. I'd always read that the destruction of Knossos by a gigantic volcanic eruption, resulting in a tidal wave that flooded the shores of the eastern Mediterranean, was the main theory.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:37 AM (rpbg1)

Have you read "1177 BC"? It's about the mass collapse of ancient civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century BC. It looks at the legend of the Sea-Peoples and examines other possible causes.

tinyurl.com/ydg4pr7y

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (rtLzT)

329 'm thinking that Hell for Muldoon would be a Writing 101 Class. Prose only, and every story begins with: "It was a dark and stormy night..."
Posted by: Diogenes


****************

Unfinished - a limerick

I've long had ambitions to write
But it turns to a terrible fight
My efforts just don't last
Cause I never can get past
"It was a dark and stormy night..."

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 10:44 AM (Fc5rx)

330 The time when Raphael, Michelangelo (and Leonardo) worked was also the time when popes undertook major archeological excavations around Rome. They would unearth fine ancient roman artifacts, statues in marble and artists of the day were inspired by the perfection of those finds. They learned from it.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:44 AM (zr5Kq)

331 325 >>That's what I'm having a hard time understanding, why did Gen. Flynn hire the firm that was tied into his wrongful prosecution in the first place, to represent him? The Obama administration had him coming and going, that's what scares the hell out of me. They initiated a bogus prosecution and then got him to hire them to "represent" him in court. Banana republic time.

It's a very good question that I have been wondering about for literally years.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:42 AM (ZLI7S)

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Uniparty isn't a good enough answer?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 10:44 AM (LvTSG)

332 The Black Sea Deluge

Wolfus, Ballard, guy who found the Titanic, in one of his videos about the wrecks of the Black Sea mentions the incident.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020


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Is something like that supposed to have happened with the Mediterranean too? That there was a "sill" between Spain and North Africa at Gibraltar, and the Atlantic broke it down and flooded the Med?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:45 AM (rpbg1)

333 >>> Someone needs to stuff him in a box. I hope Trump stops listening to this power-mad guru of doom.
Posted by: grammie winger at April

I am guessing Fauci probably spent more time stuffed in a 9th grade locker than my copy of Lord of the Flies, so he would probably feel at home in a box. But yeah, this guy really needs to go. Pronto.

Posted by: Turn Two at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (r+QZo)

334 Flynn thought he was a member in good standing of the Special People's Club.

But they treated him like a Deplorable, instead.

Still not quite able to fully feel sorry for him.

He knew - and definitely now knows - that there are two Americas - the InGroup (gov and related) and the OutGroup (us)

and he was totes fine with that situation, when he was on the good side of that metaphorical wall

Posted by: BlackOrchidInCaptivity at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (j9HX3)

335 But, But, ALL the polls have Biden leading Trump!!! ALL. THE. POLLS. by like 2000 points!!!!///

Posted by: lin-duh en fugue! at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (UUBmN)

336 They initiated a bogus prosecution and then got him to hire them to "represent" him in court. Banana republic time.

It's a very good question that I have been wondering about for literally years.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:42 AM (ZLI7S)

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Might be as simple as "he trusted them". He obviously wasnt "in" on the sedition. But he probably thought of himself as "in the establishment club". But they burned him, badly.

Kinda like the old poker saying. If you cant figure out who the mark is... youre the mark.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (nw6Hr)

337 And when I say "they" , I don't mean popes themselves would dig obviously, but they had prominent artists manage. That is how Raphael caught some plague and died at such a young age.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (zr5Kq)

338
Wolfus, Ballard, guy who found the Titanic, in one of his videos about the wrecks of the Black Sea mentions the incident.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020


Russ Ballard?

https://youtu.be/GrLGTfz3REY

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (Zz0t1)

339 *if I recall correctly

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:46 AM (zr5Kq)

340 On topic: Many years ago I went to Italy on an Art History trip through my school, and our first stop in a month long trip was Rome. Made it to the Sistine Chapel just before it closed for lunch that day, so our little group had the place to ourselves. I would like to go back now that I'm not a teenager and see it again.

The other thing I remember from Rome which made a huge impression on me, the Catacombs under the city. Both part of the Roman Catholic tradition in the city, just a thousand or so years apart.

Posted by: Boots at April 29, 2020 10:47 AM (oGBso)

341 Is something like that supposed to have happened with the Mediterranean too? That there was a "sill" between Spain and North Africa at Gibraltar, and the Atlantic broke it down and flooded the Med?
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Yes, there are at least a thousand known sites of man made structures at around 500 ft depth throughout the Med. This where Aquaman lives.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 29, 2020 10:47 AM (iBw32)

342
we got that wave at about 2 am. A few small limbs down in the yard, but not much more.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:16 AM (V2Yro)

Ditto, also high winds and a little hail. Haven't been out to see if there was damage, yet.

Posted by: Sal at April 29, 2020 10:48 AM (bo8pf)

343 Someone needs to stuff him in a box. I hope Trump stops listening to this power-mad guru of doom.


Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM (lwiT4)



Time to call zombie Jim West/Robert Conrad to take care of Miguelito Fauci

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2020 10:48 AM (XnD7Z)

344 That is how Raphael caught some plague and died at such a young age.
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If only he had locked himself in his home and practiced social distancing.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 29, 2020 10:48 AM (vg8iE)

345 *studies Vatican calendar of the Sistine Chapel vault*

Only the panel Original Sin is Eve nude as they are being tempted by the serpent. Though plenty of male naughty bits are on display.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:48 AM (qsfSB)

346 They say the Black Sea is fresh water on the bottom and salt on top. From the time when the Mediterranean flooded and spilled over the Bosphorus.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:48 AM (zr5Kq)

347 why did Gen. Flynn hire the firm that was tied into his wrongful prosecution in the first place

I was just reading about that this morning. I don't remember the details (I was reading about 40 timelines before I got here), but there was some deception and/or coercion involved, which should surprise no one.

Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2020 10:48 AM (1vynn)

348 330 The time when Raphael, Michelangelo (and Leonardo) worked was also the time when popes undertook major archeological excavations around Rome. They would unearth fine ancient roman artifacts, statues in marble and artists of the day were inspired by the perfection of those finds. They learned from it.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:44 AM (zr5Kq)

Yes. There is a clear dividing line in the styles Michelangelo used on the Ceiling. The early stages were simple. He took a break somewhere between the Noah cycle and the "Fall of Man". After he came back, the figures and scenes are more complex. Some scholars think he decided to study some of the artwork that was being dug up. Some have even pointed to the discovery of the Laocoon specifically as inspiration for the change. It's especially noticeable in the nudes (ignudi) that surround the central pictures.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:49 AM (rtLzT)

349 Have you read "1177 BC"? It's about the mass collapse of ancient civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century BC. It looks at the legend of the Sea-Peoples and examines other possible causes.

tinyurl.com/ydg4pr7y
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (rtLzT)

This is a very interesting theory, the believed source is the current Isle of Santorini, which today is a ring island surrounding a large crater. The original flood stories predate this particular explosion, but it is notable that the 1100 - 1200 BC time frame is one of those periods where *every* historical culture in the eastern Mediterranean goes completely dark for a couple of centuries, including the Myceneans. It's a bit difficult to piece together what happened because it was a true "dark age" - all writing and record keeping just stopped for a few generations, and the new societies which eventually arose were all distinctly different from what had existed before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:49 AM (V2Yro)

350 >>Uniparty isn't a good enough answer?

For General Mike Flynn? No.

It's easy to forget that Flynn was a spooks spook. A 30 year intel officer who rose to run the DIA under Obama and he just happens to hire a firm heavily connected to the DOJ where one of the most prominent lawyers is Obama's corrupt former AG after he was set up by Obama's FBI/DOJ?

Seems a bit of a stretch to me.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:50 AM (ZLI7S)

351 It's easy to forget that Flynn was a spooks spook. A 30 year intel officer who rose to run the DIA under Obama and he just happens to hire a firm heavily connected to the DOJ where one of the most prominent lawyers is Obama's corrupt former AG after he was set up by Obama's FBI/DOJ?

Seems a bit of a stretch to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:50 AM (ZLI7S)

Yup...piss poor judgement

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:51 AM (85Gof)

352 CNN, which is a darn good news organization, has the election going to Biden. Unless Justin Amash can take the lead from Trump, I fear we may have to learn to live with a Democrat president

Posted by: Erik Errorikson at April 29, 2020 10:51 AM (VMPS/)

353 There are too many people in that dory. They're going flip that boat and lose all of their gear!

Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2020 10:51 AM (2Mnv1)

354 Laocoon?

Raycisss!!

Posted by: Racist Thursday, Comrades at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (iu2yp)

355 Seems a bit of a stretch to me.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:50 AM (ZLI7S)


Me too......

Posted by: Megan McCain's Pants at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (Zz0t1)

356 >>Yup...piss poor judgement

Or something else entirely.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (ZLI7S)

357 who is the norwegian troll

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (85Gof)

358 Is it possible that Flynn went on a "suicide mission" and voluntarily subjected himself to this treatment as a way to get what we hope is coming? If Trump's main weapon of war is not actual combat, then that would fit the paradigm. It's not as if the FBI wouldn't be predictable in how it handled him, and if Flynn/Trump suspected CB would double-cross him, then they game out how to set up the FBI and turn the tables. Sting the stingers. Expose the whole prosecution as a fraud and then let Deep State sputter, "well, that was, but nothing else was".

Posted by: SFGoth at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (KAi1n)

359 Yes. There is a clear dividing line in the styles Michelangelo used on the Ceiling. The early stages were simple. He took a break somewhere between the Noah cycle and the "Fall of Man". After he came back, the figures and scenes are more complex. Some scholars think he decided to study some of the artwork that was being dug up. Some have even pointed to the discovery of the Laocoon specifically as inspiration for the change. It's especially noticeable in the nudes (ignudi) that surround the central pictures.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:49 AM (rtLzT)

Laocoon is a magnificent find. Did't you write a post on it recently, or do I misremember ?

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (zr5Kq)

360 speaking of floods,

look up Lake Missoula and the Missoula Floods. If you've ever driven through western MT or the Colombia River gorge, you can see the effects of the flooding.

Posted by: nurse ratched at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (d7Ww2)

361 "The Deluge" is still complicated in terms of pieces involved. It
involves the most figures, with each still an individual. The Ark is
afloat, a storm rages, and the waters are about to cover the last bits
of land on earth.




I made need an ark if this rain keeps up. Rain for the next 24 hours and then temperatures below normal for a while. Ain't global warming great?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (XnD7Z)

362 What day is this?

Posted by: rayciss big liebowski at April 29, 2020 10:53 AM (iu2yp)

363

I made need an ark if this rain keeps up. Rain for the next 24 hours and then temperatures below normal for a while. Ain't global warming great?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (XnD7Z)


But I thought Earth was cured because of the lockdown.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)

364 Oh yeah how else to explain Atlantis right?

When the Atlantic broke through the Pillars of Heracles to flood the Mediterranean Basin eons ago doesn't quite fit the narrative.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 10:53 AM (qsfSB)

365 349 Have you read "1177 BC"? It's about the mass collapse of ancient civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century BC. It looks at the legend of the Sea-Peoples and examines other possible causes.

tinyurl.com/ydg4pr7y
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (rtLzT)

This is a very interesting theory, the believed source is the current Isle of Santorini, which today is a ring island surrounding a large crater. The original flood stories predate this particular explosion, but it is notable that the 1100 - 1200 BC time frame is one of those periods where *every* historical culture in the eastern Mediterranean goes completely dark for a couple of centuries, including the Myceneans. It's a bit difficult to piece together what happened because it was a true "dark age" - all writing and record keeping just stopped for a few generations, and the new societies which eventually arose were all distinctly different from what had existed before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:49 AM (V2Yro)

A really important piece that we're missing is the information contained in the still-as-yet-undeciphered Linear A. Solving that would go a long way.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:54 AM (rtLzT)

366 (Oh, and Kris, circumstances change. That we know, and we are not at the point of second flood, just a tiny, average plague.)

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:55 AM (zr5Kq)

367 So many exposed penes, - a vulgar display of the patriarchy!

Posted by: Fritz at April 29, 2020 10:55 AM (2Mnv1)

368 What day is this?
Posted by: rayciss big liebowski at April 29, 2020


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Day before payday. I'm resisting going to the grocery until then.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (rpbg1)

369 Yup...piss poor judgement

Or something else entirely.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (ZLI7S)

Or both.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (85Gof)

370 The guy on the top left looks like he's trying to squeeze a deuce on the people below.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (Zz0t1)

371 Aren't all Flood Myths derived from the ending of the ice age?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (CqE5x)

372 But I thought Earth was cured because of the lockdown.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:53 AM (Zz0t1)

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Ha. One of my lunatic siblings made that same "glass half full" comment about the lockdown. How everything is healed and that this is really a blessing in disguise.

*I* took the opportunity to point out that the Earf isnt nearly as fragile and permantly damaged as you wail on about now is it?

Thanksgiving is gonna be LIT this year....

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (nw6Hr)

373 ART THOTS (TM):
This year's Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition is really wierd. None of the naked guys are even hot!!!

Posted by: pookysgirl, because someone had to say it at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (XKZwp)

374
Day before payday. I'm resisting going to the grocery until then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (rpbg1)


I'm supposed to get my stimulus tomorrow......YAY SOCIALISM!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (Zz0t1)

375 Yeah I'm not thrilled when our retired military brass go into the lobbying business . Especially when they lobby for Muslim tyrants.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (zy+gb)

376 Thanksgiving is gonna be LIT this year....
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How so? I mean, with all you locked in your homes, and all....

Posted by: Dr. Fauci at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (vg8iE)

377 Clinton got away with rape. Why is anyone surprised Biden will as well?

Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (nJ7dg)

378 I linked this last week but since today's post is about Michelangelo I'll link it again for those who didn't see it.

https://tinyurl.com/y72dutpm

The Getty Center had an exhibition of rare Michelangelo sketches which had to close because of the bug. One of the curators made a series os short videos about those drawings(one of which is a study for the Sistine ceiling)before the museum
closed. They really are quite fascinating and give you a little insight into how the artist worked. BTW, he tells a little story as to how Michelangelo got that distinctive broken nose.

Posted by: Tuna at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (gLRfa)

379 359 Yes. There is a clear dividing line in the styles Michelangelo used on the Ceiling. The early stages were simple. He took a break somewhere between the Noah cycle and the "Fall of Man". After he came back, the figures and scenes are more complex. Some scholars think he decided to study some of the artwork that was being dug up. Some have even pointed to the discovery of the Laocoon specifically as inspiration for the change. It's especially noticeable in the nudes (ignudi) that surround the central pictures.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:49 AM (rtLzT)

Laocoon is a magnificent find. Did't you write a post on it recently, or do I misremember ?

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 10:52 AM (zr5Kq)

No, but it is a magnificent piece. I also like the frieze off the Altar of Zeus from Pergamon. If you like Baroque art, especially Rubens or Bernini, check out the Hellenistic Era of Greek art. It was baroque before Baroque was cool.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:58 AM (rtLzT)

380
*I* took the opportunity to point out that the Earf isnt nearly as fragile and permantly damaged as you wail on about now is it?

Thanksgiving is gonna be LIT this year....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (nw6Hr)


Don't forget the "hole in the ozone layer" TM. How it expands and contracts as needed by the atmosphere and has NOTHING to do with aerosol cans or freon.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:58 AM (Zz0t1)

381 his is a very interesting theory, the believed source is the current Isle of Santorini, which today is a ring island surrounding a large crater. The original flood stories predate this particular explosion, but it is notable that the 1100 - 1200 BC time frame is one of those periods where *every* historical culture in the eastern Mediterranean goes completely dark for a couple of centuries, including the Myceneans. It's a bit difficult to piece together what happened because it was a true "dark age" - all writing and record keeping just stopped for a few generations, and the new societies which eventually arose were all distinctly different from what had existed before.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 10:49 AM (V2Yro)

Probably a plague.

Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 10:59 AM (CqE5x)

382 Thanksgiving is gonna be LIT this year....

4th of July, I think. The Earth is going to temporarily heat up several degrees from all the fireworks we set off.

Posted by: t-bird at April 29, 2020 10:59 AM (AytXr)

383 I actually lean more on the Biblical depiction of the Deluge. I suspect a massive storm and a seismic event caused the Black Sea and Med sill breaks.

Too many cultures far, far from the Med have a flood story. Seems to have been a global, not a regional event.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 29, 2020 10:59 AM (l4C/z)

384 Clinton got away with rape. Why is anyone surprised Biden will as well?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (nJ7dg)


The only Democrat that hasn't gotten way with sexual assault is Al Franken. He was a patsy to prove they were "serious, you guys."

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 10:59 AM (Zz0t1)

385 Does the Bible or tradition say how the Ark was powered or steered?

Where do you think hamster wheels came from?

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 29, 2020 10:59 AM (5Uh8B)

386 265

Someone needs to stuff him in a box. I hope Trump stops listening to this power-mad guru of doom.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 29, 2020 10:25 AM

Then we can call him the Doc in a Box.

Or better yet, Dick in a Box.

Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 29, 2020 11:00 AM (Do5/p)

387 Day before payday. I'm resisting going to the grocery until then.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (rpbg1)

I'm supposed to get my stimulus tomorrow......YAY SOCIALISM!!!!
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020


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I'm trying to decide whether I should enter my bank info on the Infernal Revenue site to get my payment soon, or wait for the paper check. I'm still working and being paid, so it's not urgent. And I hate to *assist* them by giving them my bank info. Let 'em dig it up themselves, is my thinking.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:00 AM (rpbg1)

388
Time to call zombie Jim West/Robert Conrad to take care of Miguelito Fauci
Posted by: TheQuietMan


Miguelito always kept coming back!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2020 11:00 AM (aKsyK)

389 Does the Bible or tradition say how the Ark was powered or steered?



water jets, you could ski behind

Posted by: not so at April 29, 2020 11:00 AM (HALdu)

390 >>> Probably a plague.
Posted by: JoeF.

It's not a plague!!!!

Posted by: Awnawld at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (r+QZo)

391 Aren't all Flood Myths derived from the ending of the ice age?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (CqE5x)

That's a bit toooo far back. All myths about a flood have a theme of an advanced civilization disappearing because of some cataclysm. Volcano eruption and following disasters so monstrous that a continent went under the waves.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (zr5Kq)

392 Thanks Chris and CBD.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (WEBkv)

393 378 I linked this last week but since today's post is about Michelangelo I'll link it again for those who didn't see it.

https://tinyurl.com/y72dutpm

The Getty Center had an exhibition of rare Michelangelo sketches which had to close because of the bug. One of the curators made a series os short videos about those drawings(one of which is a study for the Sistine ceiling)before the museum
closed. They really are quite fascinating and give you a little insight into how the artist worked. BTW, he tells a little story as to how Michelangelo got that distinctive broken nose.

Posted by: Tuna at April 29, 2020 10:57 AM (gLRfa)

Yes, I saw some of those. Seconded. The British Museum also has a new YouTube series called "Decoded". Check that out too.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (rtLzT)

394 No, but it is a magnificent piece. I also like the frieze off the Altar of Zeus from Pergamon. If you like Baroque art, especially Rubens or Bernini, check out the Hellenistic Era of Greek art. It was baroque before Baroque was cool.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:58 AM (rtLzT)
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Cellini managed to burn his house down during the casting of "Perseus". Now that's dedication!

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (4o2K3)

395 There is archeological evidence on Crete about the absolute devastation the volcanic explosion of Thera did to the island.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (qsfSB)

396 Michelangelo: I'll tell you what you want, mate! You want a bloody photographer! That's you want. Not a bloody creative artist to crease you up...

Pope: I'll tell you what I want! I want a last supper with one Christ, twelve disciples, no kangaroos, no trampoline acts, by Thursday lunch, or you don't get paid!

Michelangelo: Bloody fascist!

Pope: Look! I'm the bloody pope, I am! May not know much about art, but I know what I like!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2020 11:02 AM (TQ/zJ)

397 What a beautiful and timely analysis of some great art.

Posted by: LASue at April 29, 2020 11:02 AM (Ed8Zd)

398 Probably a plague.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020


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Last night I watched two episodes of this online series about the Black Death. One suggestion they quoted is that the bubonic/pneumonic/septicemic plague might have been "assisted" in wiping out half of Europe by anthrax, and by a form of smallpox and/or a hemorrhagic fever.

Bad time to be alive, fer sure.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (rpbg1)

399 Is something like that supposed to have happened
with the Mediterranean too? That there was a "sill" between Spain and
North Africa at Gibraltar, and the Atlantic broke it down and flooded
the Med?


Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 10:45 AM

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That is one theory. There is a very good presentation on that on youtube. Gives some good "evidence" that is what happened and where people living in the Mediterranean pretty much all have flood myths.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (JUOKG)

400 The plains states were all underwater for quite sometime.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (zy+gb)

401
The only Democrat that hasn't gotten way with sexual assault is Al Franken. He was a patsy to prove they were "serious, you guys."
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe!


Franken was a fool who could have easily kept his seat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (aKsyK)

402 Who filed the lobbying forms with the DOJ for Flynn?

Covington Burling.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (ZLI7S)

403
I'm trying to decide whether I should enter my bank info on the Infernal Revenue site to get my payment soon, or wait for the paper check. I'm still working and being paid, so it's not urgent. And I hate to *assist* them by giving them my bank info. Let 'em dig it up themselves, is my thinking.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:00 AM (rpbg1)


We went ahead and entered our info as Forbes was reporting paper checks for our income level wouldn't be issued until August and with my wife unemployed currently, we wanted the cushion sooner.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:04 AM (Zz0t1)

404 The only Democrat that hasn't gotten way with sexual assault is Al Franken. He was a patsy to prove they were "serious, you guys."
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe!

Franken was a fool who could have easily kept his seat.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM



He was a "guest" of The Club...not a life-long dues paying member.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 29, 2020 11:04 AM (axyOa)

405 373 BC, the Greek city of Helike vanished over night due to tsunami

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helike

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:04 AM (qsfSB)

406 Posted by: Erik Errorikson at April 29, 2020 10:34 AM (VMPS/)

I love that name!

forever shilling for a guest spot on CNN since no one looks at his blog anymore.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 11:04 AM (V2Yro)

407 401
The only Democrat that hasn't gotten way with sexual assault is Al Franken. He was a patsy to prove they were "serious, you guys."
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe!

Franken was a fool who could have easily kept his seat.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (aKsyK)

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He thought they were serious.

It's like he didn't know the Democratic Party at all.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:05 AM (LvTSG)

408 No, but it is a magnificent piece. I also like the frieze off the Altar of Zeus from Pergamon. If you like Baroque art, especially Rubens or Bernini, check out the Hellenistic Era of Greek art. It was baroque before Baroque was cool.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:58 AM (rtLzT)

Oh, yes, Bernini. Many think of Leonardo as a the epitome or a Renaissance man. But same can be said of Bernini.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:05 AM (zr5Kq)

409
We went ahead and entered our info as Forbes was reporting paper checks for our income level wouldn't be issued until August and with my wife unemployed currently, we wanted the cushion sooner.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020


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My income level is quite a bit lower than yours, I expect, as it's just me. Not that that is any guarantee that my check would show up soon.

I guess I'll go do it.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:05 AM (rpbg1)

410 *epitome of a Renaissance Man

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:06 AM (zr5Kq)

411 Have you read "1177 BC"? It's about the mass collapse of ancient civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century BC. It looks at the legend of the Sea-Peoples and examines other possible causes.

tinyurl.com/ydg4pr7y
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (rtLzT)


The author gave a lecture that is up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/bRcu-ysocX4


He's got a funny line in there about how the date of the collapse keeps on shifting around. It's about an hour long. And I think he has some speculation that some of the Mediterranean islands were either the origins of the sea people or where they settled afterwards.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020 11:06 AM (WqCOQ)

412 Last night I watched two episodes of this online series about the Black Death. One suggestion they quoted is that the bubonic/pneumonic/septicemic plague might have been "assisted" in wiping out half of Europe by anthrax, and by a form of smallpox and/or a hemorrhagic fever.

Bad time to be alive, fer sure.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (rpbg1)

You mean Medieval times weren't damsels in colorful gowns and knights wielding long lances?

Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 11:07 AM (CqE5x)

413 The only Democrat that hasn't gotten way with sexual assault is Al Franken. He was a patsy to prove they were "serious, you guys."
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The problem for Al Franken was completely self induced. He had his brother (I think it was his brother) take a picture of himself assaulting that sleeping woman, and then he sent the woman the picture.

That's the only reason they had to sacrifice him.


Posted by: Boots at April 29, 2020 11:07 AM (oGBso)

414
Unfinished - a limerick

I've long had ambitions to write
But it turns to a terrible fight
My efforts just don't last
Cause I never can get past
"It was a dark and stormy night..."

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 10:44 AM



So...Purgatory then?

Posted by: Diogenes at April 29, 2020 11:07 AM (axyOa)

415 The plains states were all underwater for quite sometime.
Now it's just cities run by Democrats!

Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (TQ/zJ)

416 Except they called it the Great Pestilence

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (qsfSB)

417 I sent off an e-mail to Artie T, telling him that I'm boycotting and encouraging others to. Not that I make a difference, but I will be damned if I bow to this garbage "science."
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 29, 2020 10:35 AM (2JVJo)


I swear to Christ, this ordeal is going to make a permanent change in my habits. I used to enjoy grocery shopping. I'd think nothing of saying, "Oh, we're getting low on eggs - I'll hop in the car and go to the store!" Forty minutes later, I'd have the eggs and $80 more in groceries, and I'd be happily humming as I head home, or to another store.

Now as the Simpsons put it "shopping is a bewildering ordeal". A new rule every time I go. Herded like a cow down one-way lanes, so I can't encounter another shopper face to face. Lining up like a goddamned Soviet Bloc serf. I'll never forget the discomfort and humiliation. Even when this is over, IF things return to "normal" again, I'll be scurrying in with a list, grabbing what I need and getting out. It seems to be the highest form of heroism these days.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (5Uh8B)

418 The Sea People were clearly extraterrestrials.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (+0AKE)

419 So...Purgatory then?


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Yup!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (Fc5rx)

420 396 Michelangelo: I'll tell you what you want, mate! You want a bloody photographer! That's you want. Not a bloody creative artist to crease you up...

Pope: I'll tell you what I want! I want a last supper with one Christ, twelve disciples, no kangaroos, no trampoline acts, by Thursday lunch, or you don't get paid!

Michelangelo: Bloody fascist!

Pope: Look! I'm the bloody pope, I am! May not know much about art, but I know what I like!


Posted by: andycanuck at April 29, 2020 11:02 AM (TQ/zJ)

The Animaniacs did a funny take on Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (rtLzT)

421 You mean Medieval times weren't damsels in colorful gowns and knights wielding long lances?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 11:07 AM (CqE5x)


Hey baby, let me show you my long lance

Posted by: Sir Lance-A-Lot the Tireless at April 29, 2020 11:09 AM (lVJPV)

422 420
The Animaniacs did a funny take on Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (rtLzT)

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Their take on Apocalypse Now is great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:09 AM (LvTSG)

423 The author gave a lecture that is up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/bRcu-ysocX4


He's got a funny line in there about how the date of the collapse keeps on shifting around. It's about an hour long. And I think he has some speculation that some of the Mediterranean islands were either the origins of the sea people or where they settled afterwards.
Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020


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He seems very accessible and an entertaining lecturer. I've bookmarked it for later.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:09 AM (rpbg1)

424 He's got a funny line in there about how the date of the collapse keeps on shifting around. It's about an hour long. And I think he has some speculation that some of the Mediterranean islands were either the origins of the sea people or where they settled afterwards.

Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020 11:06 AM (WqCOQ)

I read his book...his basic conclusion for the cause of bronze age civilization collapse was..."all of 'em".

Posted by: BignJames at April 29, 2020 11:09 AM (X/Pw5)

425 I sense a new blog post from Kris

"Everything I learned about art I learned from the Animaniacs"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (qsfSB)

426 411 Have you read "1177 BC"? It's about the mass collapse of ancient civilizations in the eastern Mediterranean in the 12th century BC. It looks at the legend of the Sea-Peoples and examines other possible causes.

tinyurl.com/ydg4pr7y
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 10:43 AM (rtLzT)


The author gave a lecture that is up on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/bRcu-ysocX4


He's got a funny line in there about how the date of the collapse keeps on shifting around. It's about an hour long. And I think he has some speculation that some of the Mediterranean islands were either the origins of the sea people or where they settled afterwards.


Posted by: Buzzion at April 29, 2020 11:06 AM (WqCOQ)

It keeps showing up in my You Tube recommendations. I'll have to watch it.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (rtLzT)

427 Aren't all Flood Myths derived from the ending of the ice age?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM (CqE5x)

That's a bit toooo far back. All myths about a flood have a theme of an advanced civilization disappearing because of some cataclysm. Volcano eruption and following disasters so monstrous that a continent went under the waves.
Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (zr5Kq)

I realize that, but what I mean is that the stories that were told orally became more detailed in the telling from the ending of the Ice Age to when the Flood Myths were written down

Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (CqE5x)

428
The Animaniacs are AWESOME.

The only "newer" cartoons I care for.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (nw6Hr)

429 Just for trivia's sake, "Masterpiece" does not mean "Greatest work a fella's ever done."

It was the work you did to earn the title of "master," so you could get out of school or end your apprenticeship.

It sort of means "final exam" or "thesis."

Posted by: RKae at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (68b38)

430 There is archeological evidence on Crete about the absolute devastation the volcanic explosion of Thera did to the island.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:01 AM (qsfSB)

I spent a week on Santorini. Had a great time

Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (85Gof)

431 You mean Medieval times weren't damsels in colorful gowns and knights wielding long lances?

The joust originated as a way to provide a chivalric fighting spectacle, while maintaining social distancing.

Posted by: true history at April 29, 2020 11:11 AM (8vHbU)

432 I spent a week on Santorini. Had a great time
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (85Gof)


Ah, Joe.

He's one of my favorite guitar players.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:11 AM (Zz0t1)

433 >>> He seems very accessible and an entertaining lecturer. I've bookmarked it for later.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius

Same

Posted by: Awnawld at April 29, 2020 11:11 AM (r+QZo)

434 You can find remains of woolly mammoth throughout the Mid-west. Theory goes that they crossed from Eurasia over Bering strait somehow. Could have been by a continental bridge that disappeared.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:12 AM (zr5Kq)

435 422 420
The Animaniacs did a funny take on Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (rtLzT)

============

Their take on Apocalypse Now is great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:09 AM (LvTSG)

Their riff on Woodstock was amazing.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:12 AM (rtLzT)

436 The Sea People were clearly extraterrestrials.

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C People, huh? Good thing they weren't A People or we'd all be speaking Martian now.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 11:12 AM (+y/Ru)

437 435 422 420
The Animaniacs did a funny take on Michelangelo and the Sistine Chapel.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:08 AM (rtLzT)

============

Their take on Apocalypse Now is great.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:09 AM (LvTSG)

Their riff on Woodstock was amazing.
Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:12 AM (rtLzT)

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Wacko burped a mean Mozart.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:12 AM (LvTSG)

438
Wasnt Spielberg going to do a reboot of Animaniacs??

Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (nw6Hr)

439 C People?

Fear the C++ People.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (qsfSB)

440 The Animaniacs are AWESOME.

The only "newer" cartoons I care for.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (nw6Hr)


I watched them a bit, but do remember enjoying "A Pup Named Scooby Doo" and am a fan of "Phineas and Ferb."

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (Zz0t1)

441 Ace still has the AID?

Posted by: Winston at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (RyWXu)

442 So if I asked you about art, you'd probably give me the skinny on every art book ever written. Michelangelo? You know a lot about him. Life's work, political aspirations. Him and the pope. Sexual orientation. The whole works, right?

I bet you can't tell me what it smells like in the Sistine Chapel. You never actually stood there and looked up at that beautiful ceiling. Seeing that.

Posted by: Sean McGuire at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (Do5/p)

443 We need to CE5 the sea people

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (6mvRv)

444 438
Wasnt Spielberg going to do a reboot of Animaniacs??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (nw6Hr)

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Yup, it's in the works.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (LvTSG)

445 Wasnt Spielberg going to do a reboot of Animaniacs??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (nw6Hr)


Hopefully, someone rebooted him in the nuts since all he'd do is fuck it up.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

446 The joust originated as a way to provide a chivalric fighting spectacle, while maintaining social distancing.
Posted by: true history at April 29, 2020 11:11 AM (8vHbU)

A Knight's Tale was a great movie with a semi original concept.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (zy+gb)

447 You can find remains of woolly mammoth throughout the Mid-west. Theory goes that they crossed from Eurasia over Bering strait somehow. Could have been by a continental bridge that disappeared.
Posted by: runner

Either that or they were wetback mammoths.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (+y/Ru)

448 445 Wasnt Spielberg going to do a reboot of Animaniacs??
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (nw6Hr)

Hopefully, someone rebooted him in the nuts since all he'd do is fuck it up.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

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It's not like he executive produced the original series, or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (LvTSG)

449 Ace still has the AID?
Posted by: Winston at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM (RyWXu)


Was starting to wonder if our monkeys were sleeping in.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (Zz0t1)

450 Wasnt Spielberg going to do a reboot of Animaniacs??

Dot, "What!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (qsfSB)

451 @430 - that sounds awesome

Posted by: Blacksheep at April 29, 2020 11:15 AM (6mvRv)

452 Last night I watched two episodes of this online series about the Black Death. One suggestion they quoted is that the bubonic/pneumonic/septicemic plague might have been "assisted" in wiping out half of Europe by anthrax, and by a form of smallpox and/or a hemorrhagic fever.

Bad time to be alive, fer sure.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:03 AM (rpbg1)

You mean Medieval times weren't damsels in colorful gowns and knights wielding long lances?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020


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Sure, if you lived through it. The 1400s through the mid-1600s were pretty good if you could manage not being killed in war or a farm accident.

The lecture glosses over the Great Plague of London, giving us the impression that the plague entirely vanished between 1347 and the great outbreak in China in 1894. And the lecturer tells us that since 1894 the bug causing the plague has been called after its major researcher, a fellow named Yersin, thus Yersinia pestis. Not so; my 1980s Britannica says it's Pasturella pestis. The Yersinia name came along only in the last 30 years or so.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:15 AM (rpbg1)

453 It's not like he executive produced the original series, or anything.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 29, 2020 11:14 AM (LvTSG)


Uh....his return to the well has worked out, where?

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 29, 2020 11:15 AM (Zz0t1)

454 These are always fascinating, Kris. Thanks so much. Your sentence that this is an allegory for Christ made me see this in a new light, particularly the mention of the diagonals. There we see the tree (the Cross) and the dead son (prefiguring Christ.) Your mention of the Ark as a single oasis of solid "ground" compared to the topsy-turvy, swirling chaos of the rest of the painting is also astute.
I wish I could see these things when I look at paintings. Thanks again!

Posted by: Filly at April 29, 2020 11:15 AM (aNmky)

455 Keep Kathleen Kennedy away from any reboot of the Animaniacs.

Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:15 AM (qsfSB)

456 Nood!

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 29, 2020 11:15 AM (ExV1e)

457 429 Just for trivia's sake, "Masterpiece" does not mean "Greatest work a fella's ever done."

It was the work you did to earn the title of "master," so you could get out of school or end your apprenticeship.

It sort of means "final exam" or "thesis."



Posted by: RKae at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (68b3

Correct, however, the term has evolved to mean a great work of art, and it doesn't necessarily mean the artist's greatest work either. One artist can have several masterpieces. Michelangelo has at least 4 or 5. It's that modern meaning that I was referring to.

Posted by: Kris at April 29, 2020 11:16 AM (rtLzT)

458 The Animaniacs are AWESOME.

The only "newer" cartoons I care for.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020


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Pinky: "What're we going to do tonight, Brain?"

Brain: "The same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try to take over the world."

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:17 AM (rpbg1)

459 I realize that, but what I mean is that the stories that were told orally became more detailed in the telling from the ending of the Ice Age to when the Flood Myths were written down
Posted by: JoeF. at April 29, 2020 11:10 AM (CqE5x)

The end of the Ice Ages wasn't as sudden as we often think. As the Ice Age ended, sea level was almost 400 feet lower than it is now. Charts of sea level rise show a constant, steep rise in sea level lasting from about 11,000 bc to 7,000 bc, and then a more gradual rise after that.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 29, 2020 11:17 AM (V2Yro)

460 Fear the C++ People.
Posted by: Anna Puma at April 29, 2020 11:13 AM


The smart ones are the C# people.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 29, 2020 11:17 AM (DMUuz)

461 *I* took the opportunity to point out that the Earf isnt nearly as fragile and permantly damaged as you wail on about now is it?

Thanksgiving is gonna be LIT this year....
Posted by: fixerupper at April 29, 2020 10:56 AM

My favorite was a friend sharing her friend's beautiful photo of a clear stream in their neighborhood. Unfortunately, the friend-of-a-friend posted something about "This water must be so clear because factories are closed."

I commented that water is so cold right now that there's no algae or weeds growing. The heavy current has carried away the autumn leaf-debris, too. By July, the water will be sluggish and its surface will be coated with a green-and-yellow film.

I thought it was kind of funny that the photographer said she thought maybe I was right. My friend messaged me that many people in her area stay inside all day and so all of nature is a glorious adventure to them.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 29, 2020 11:17 AM (/+bwe)

462 434 You can find remains of woolly mammoth throughout the Mid-west. Theory goes that they crossed from Eurasia over Bering strait somehow. Could have been by a continental bridge that disappeared.
Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:12 AM (zr5Kq)
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I vote continental bridge. Whos with me!
Science!

Posted by: Menack at April 29, 2020 11:18 AM (buTO7)

463 Among proposed restrictions for restaurants seeking to re-open in Colorado, this one jumped out at me:


No public sharing of utensils or condiments will be allowed.

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 11:18 AM (Fc5rx)

464 Noodus simianus major

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:19 AM (rpbg1)

465 You can find remains of woolly mammoth throughout the Mid-west.


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Why? Portland trying to clear one off the beach?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 29, 2020 11:20 AM (Fc5rx)

466 I'm trying to decide whether I should enter my bank info on the Infernal Revenue site to get my payment soon, or wait for the paper check. I'm still working and being paid, so it's not urgent. And I hate to *assist* them by giving them my bank info. Let 'em dig it up themselves, is my thinking.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 29, 2020 11:00 AM (rpbg1)


I saw a "one neat trick"to get your payment sooner - says put your address in in all caps

I guess it's possible that the hurriedly put together site might have a stupid bug like that

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 11:21 AM (G546f)

467 Lascaux drawing are from about 15000 bc. Last Ice age ended about 15,000 - 12, 000 BC. Don't think those and similar inhabitants who lived in those caves had much of an oral tradition. The images themselves do not show anything about "the Flood". The inhabitants concern was survival, not storytelling. Not conclusive, true, but I think" the flood" came much later.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:21 AM (zr5Kq)

468 ''his is a very interesting theory, the believed source is the current Isle of Santorini, which today is a ring island surrounding a large crater. ''

Studied that in my Ancient Greek history course. That eruption was a disaster of the 1st magnitude. Minoan culture was in a steady decline after that. BTW, the ongoing excavations have uncovered some beautiful wall paintings. Also, as far as I know the Minoan Linear A has never been deciphered so we know very little about how their society worked other than what can be discern from ruins, paintings and contemporary source material

Posted by: Tuna at April 29, 2020 11:22 AM (gLRfa)

469 maybe The Flood was caused by SMOD v 1.02 ?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 11:24 AM (G546f)

470 maybe The Flood was caused by SMOD v 1.02 ?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 29, 2020 11:24 AM (G546f)


That is also a theory. Could have been a combinations, SMOD + volcano.

Posted by: runner at April 29, 2020 11:25 AM (zr5Kq)

471 Dead thread? Then let me throw this shovelful on the fire
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Of scientific interest to some perhaps, this video I recently ran across - pretty good depiction and description:
That Time the Mediterranean Sea Disappeared
PBS Eons - Jan 9, 2020 - 11:55
https://youtu.be/HooZ84rpovQ
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Meanwhile, not so scientifically, Urantia Paper 78. As usual, the author recites what is well known - universal flood myths, the whole world was never flooded in the human era. Entirely reasonable and mostly well-known. Then, they reveal the real Noah. Heh. You don't have to flood the whole world for it to feel like your whole world has been flooded.

https://bit.ly/ub-real-noah

The traditions of a time when water covered the whole of the earth's surface are universal. Many races harbor the story of a world-wide flood some time during past ages. The Biblical story of Noah, the ark, and the flood is an invention of the Hebrew priesthood during the Babylonian captivity. There has never been a universal flood since life was established on Urantia. The only time the surface of the earth was completely covered by water was during those Archeozoic ages before the land had begun to appear.

But Noah really lived; he was a wine maker of Aram, a river settlement near Erech. He kept a written record of the days of the river's rise from year to year. He brought much ridicule upon himself by going up and down the river valley advocating that all houses be built of wood, boat fashion, and that the family animals be put on board each night as the flood season approached. He would go to the neighboring river settlements every year and warn them that in so many days the floods would come. Finally a year came in which the annual floods were greatly augmented by unusually heavy rainfall so that the sudden rise of the waters wiped out the entire village; only Noah and his immediate family were saved in their houseboat.



Posted by: mindful webworker - radically-inclined webworks
at April 29, 2020 12:04 PM (G0qhR)

472 Must be Germans: they see a beach front and immediately undress (whether we want them to or not).

Posted by: Beelzebubba at April 29, 2020 12:20 PM (17+9D)

473 I don't care about the "first 100 rule." When you get ten zillion "First!" filling things up, you get what you get.

I am one of the last people to have seen this work of art. I was there in February, just before the stuff hit the fan. I can share with you "the way to see it."

You must buy tickets in advance, and you must buy them for the earliest time available. I believe it is 9:00AM.

Get there early. The entrance to the chapel is about a mile from St. Peter's. Even though they are near to each other, their entrances are far and the chapel is not in an obvious place. Figure it out.

When you get there, you will see a huge line, even at 9:00AM. Have your reservations printed out and in your hand, AND on your phone. Be prepared.

Go in the "reservations" line and fly past the 2,000 other people. No, that's not hyperbole.

It's a few steps to get in, but you will.

Stop at every work of art along the way. NO, WRONG. If you do, you'll never get there. The actual ceiling is AT THE END. You must IGNORE the room, after room, after room, after room of stuff. Apartments and apartments and chambers and it never ends... BLOW PAST it. Walk past anyone loitering.

At the end... the very end... of a very long walk...

There it is.

And if you do what I say, like I did... you'll have it nearly to yourself. For about 30 minutes, actually.

It is mind blowing. In 30 minutes you'll be cheek to cheek with 600 visitors in masks, but if you do what I say? You can walk around and just stare. You can sit on the benches.

You can absorb.

I've been everywhere, but this? This is unlike anything I've ever experienced. It is visceral.

Do it right.

Posted by: RobM1981 at April 29, 2020 12:38 PM (eJepb)

474 Don't look now but i think your brother Stanley was just turned into a Frigatebird he kept saying Frigate and Wilbur is now Albatross

Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 29, 2020 05:16 PM (FLiOE)

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