The Morning Rant

Thanks to the coronavirus and the national quarantine and schools being closed, homeschooling has once again appeared on the radar of Our Sanctified Elites - they who know What's Best for us Bible-totin' sister-humpin' rubes.

Our Elites are really, really afraid of parents who do not wish to rely on the government for everything. Our Elites are really, really afraid of ordinary citizens running their own lives.

Our Elites are really, really afraid of freedom.

Look down below at the drawing that accompanied an anti-homeschooling article that appeared in the latest issue of Harvard Magazine. The primary source used by the author is one Elizabeth Bartholet, who is described as a "public interest professor of law and faculty director of the Law School's Child Advocacy Program." But despite the fancy title, it's obvious that she has no clue what she's talking about when it comes to homeschooling. The article is the same bullshit our Sanctified Elites were saying about homeschooling 20-30 years ago, back when problems with public school systems were becoming so obvious that the number of parents pulling their children out grew large enough to attract public attention.

So they have to lie continuously. They have to pretend that homeschooling is like a prison and the homeschooled children are in jail and they never get to run around and play outside, etc.

Bartholet obviously sees herself as one of society's gatekeepers and doesn't like those who have figured out how to get around her gatekeeping. According to her law review paper, she really, really hates what she calls "parental rights absolutism."

So, who gets to decide what rights parents have? Why, people like Elizabeth Bartholet, of course! And why are they able to assume such a lofty position of responsibility over everybody's children? Because she is a "child advocate". It says so right in her title. And because she has a college degree that confers upon her all the wisdom and experience necessary to be able to dictate to all the parents what's best for their children.

Fortunately, this is just academia. Bartholet wants to limit homeschooling to those parents who can cmae up with very strong reasons why they should be allowed to do so. In other words, she wants the presumptive rights of parents to be taken from them and given to the state. If a state legislature anywhere in this country tried to pass an anti-homeschooling law based on that idea, homeschoolers would descend upon their respective state capitals in massive numbers to oppose whatever bill was being considered. I can speak from personal experience on this. Mrs. Muse and I homeschooled our children up until college and from being plugged in to the homeschooling community during those years, we were amazed at how closely our state legislature was being watched. They couldn't sneak a bill out of committee without our finding out about it.

And I think that's even more true now. Even though some states have gotten bluer, Trump has made us bolder.

Oh, and the Harvard Magazine closed the comments after allowing only 9(!) of them to be posted. And they were all overwhelmingly negative. That's good news.

Our Betters:

Woah.

I just noticed the bizarre cover image used for the Harvard Magazine article.

It shows a sad homeschool child imprisoned in a house while the other kids are outside playing.

Notice the house is made of books, one of them being the Bible 😱👻 pic.twitter.com/IZfaVuIA0G
— Corey A. DeAngelis (@DeAngelisCorey) April 18, 2020

I Would Totally Pay To See This:

The Petty Tyrants Are Out In Force In Idaho:

New York is releasing criminals and Meridian, Idaho police are arresting moms for playing with their kids outside. What the hell are we doing, folks? pic.twitter.com/fOBYa0V0u5
— ForAmerica (@ForAmerica) April 22, 2020

"Listen, Fat..."

The WuShank Redemption:

I Can Hardly Wait:

Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+ https://t.co/azaj9OeQ8M pic.twitter.com/cbIOIwtmwV
— New York Post (@nypost) April 22, 2020

Who Dis:

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For the 'Ettes:

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(h/t 'CN' for today's 'who dis' celebs)

Monday's celebs: Jill Oppenheim, whom we know as Jill St. John is perhaps best known among the morons as one of the Bond girls, the "cheeky" Tiffany Case in Diamonds Are Forever. St. John formalized her 8-year relationship with Robert Wagner in 1990, and they've been married to this day. She stepped out of her usual comfort zone a bit when she played a crazed warden in the 1982 film The Concrete Jungle. Also in that movie was Monday's hunk Peter Brown, who was known chiefly for his work in westerns and made-for-TV movies.

Today's Edition Of The Morning Rant Is Brought To You By Reese's Stuffed Giant Chewy Chocolate Chip Cookies:

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Chewy cookie recipe here.

Posted by: OregonMuse at 11:08 AM

Comments

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1 MMMMM.

Posted by: Jim Hawkins all growed up at April 24, 2020 11:09 AM (gD6Ka)

2 Near the top.

Posted by: Fortcoins at April 24, 2020 11:10 AM (JbL9Q)

3 GAHDIT!

Today is a good day.

And I "nooded" too.

Posted by: Marvin Martian at April 24, 2020 11:11 AM (gD6Ka)

4 th

Posted by: Cosda at April 24, 2020 11:12 AM (DUK11)

5 Woohoo!!!! Cookies!!!!
NOM NOM!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:12 AM (axyOa)

6 Moms versus Union Teachers. Who you gonna trust?

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:12 AM (ZB42Q)

7 Third, best ever fo me

Posted by: Jasonj at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (qSQLQ)

8 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)

9 Who dis must be Brits.

Posted by: BignJames at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (X/Pw5)

10 Serious question. If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also? In fact egregious fraud would destroy the results of an election and really damage the vote by mail idea with the libs.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (fMhOl)

11 I am saddened that Cuomo's wife did not avail herself of the many therapies available at Gwyneth Paltrow's website.

Healing crystals, chakras, and steamed clams are every bit as plausible as what she's already doing.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:14 AM (T6t7i)

12 Gretchen is on, mandating wearing a mask.

She will allow me to visit my cabin, though.

Posted by: Grand Rapids at April 24, 2020 11:14 AM (Xo3T0)

13 I need a haircut soon or my stillsuit won't seal properly.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 24, 2020 11:14 AM (sjdRT)

14 Homeschoolers have to renounce Christ and kiss a statue they call Baphomet on the lips. If you torture them, they'll admit it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 24, 2020 11:14 AM (H5knJ)

15

Richard Todd and....

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (UUv9T)

16 OM -- You didn't mention the spelling. I guess mathy folks don't need no steenkin' spelling.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (MIKMs)

17 Because you can't out cheat a leftist.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (+0AKE)

18 I know there was content before Giant Chewy Chocolate Chip Cookies, but it just drove everything else out.

Posted by: mindful webworker
radically inclined webworks
at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (G0qhR)

19 That cartoon infuriates me.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (lwiT4)

20 8 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)

That homeschooling is like being in prison.

That's why I said in the rant that they're straight up lying about stuff.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (m8d3m)

21 Tarzan and Jane ?

Posted by: Priapism at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (2cfUo)

22 KAHNNNNNN!!!!

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (88+cf)

23
You changing that mask regularly, GP?

Inquiring Karens want to know!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (pNxlR)

24 Mail fraud only goes one way.
Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by: Fortcoins at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (JbL9Q)

25 Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+ https://trib.al/8vQfseE

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They're turning Star Wars into Twilight.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (LvTSG)

26 Homeschooled our daughter, she graduates today with a Bachelor's in Business. She did it in 3 years and is debt free. Ya Harvard, homeschoolers are stupid.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (DjiZK)

27 I want those cookies in my belly.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (+0AKE)

28 19 That cartoon infuriates me.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (lwiT4)

You and me both.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (m8d3m)

29 Oh, got nothing on the two 'who dis' peeps.

Elizabeth Bertholet is a 70's radical who probably is pals with Ayers - just a guess, but she's been a radical her entire career.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (bDqIh)

30 Lassie's mom.

Posted by: Roland THTG at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (88+cf)

31 Who Dis:
Jason and the Argonauts dude and the broad is from the Hammer Studios?

Names...I don't need no stinkin names.

Posted by: Marvin Martian at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (gD6Ka)

32 20
8 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)

That homeschooling is like being in prison.

That's why I said in the rant that they're straight up lying about stuff.

Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (T6t7i)

33 What is it with leftists constantly inverting the baseline assumption?

I don't have to prove I'm innocent. The state has to prove I'm guilty.

I don't have to prove that I should be allowed to do something. The state has to prove that I shouldn't.

People like this Bartholet character are the perfect example of the pernicious force that has taken over government, media and academia. She clearly believes that the state is the fount of rights, and the state doles them out to its subjects.

Backwards, exactly completely and so totally backwards that it is not an accident. Depending on your bent, the fount of rights is actually Man or G-d - but rights are granted to the state by men - not the other way around.

It's right there in plain language in all of the brilliant founding documents of this country. Nevertheless, they persist. Because they're totalitarian evildoers who deserve to be destroyed.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (hYcqw)

34 Anti-home schoolers always say that they are concerned about socialization. They assume the only way kids get together is in school.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (aKsyK)

35 Serious question. If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also? In fact egregious fraud would destroy the results of an election and really damage the vote by mail idea with the libs.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM

Its about who counts the votes.
In WA State, in any close race, the Dems ALWAYS find the extra votes they need. In a desk, under a mailbox, behind a filing cabinet.
But don't count the military mail in ballots!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (axyOa)

36 I wonder if I could substitute a Reese's peanut butter egg for that cookie (still plenty of them from the kids' Easter baskets).

Sorta like making leftovers from one's Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (ch6++)

37 The mom arrested for playing with her kids in the park has me wondering how many pedos have been released during this panic to 'pick up' where mama left off.

Posted by: Rex B at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (6hCvI)

38 Hope you're all having a great day.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (E+OcO)

39 Yeah, homeschooling is like a prison, because, unlike teachers, parents can't tell kids to go outside and leave them alone.

Oh, wait....

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (WEBkv)

40 Voting by mail? Sorry.

If you can go grocery shopping, you can go out to vote.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (rGtm/)

41 Dang - foiled by a fish pun.

Posted by: FrodoB-
cause I am at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (dQF3z)

42 It should be- Ok Mike, they're ready, hit the claymores

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (9Om/r)

43 The Beatles meme was awesome.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (EV+4+)

44 16 OM -- You didn't mention the spelling. I guess mathy folks don't need no steenkin' spelling.

Posted by: mustbequantum at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (MIKMs)

I did that deliberately. I like to leave things for the Horde to discover for themselves, in order to stimulate conversations.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (m8d3m)

45 Completely off topic, but I have to share this - a truly lovely video on today's Astronomy Picture of the Day:

https://tinyurl.com/gnwa37x
Such a lovely universe we live in!

Posted by: Brown Line at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (S6ArX)

46 That homeschooling is like being in prison. That's why I said in the rant that they're straight up lying about stuff.

Don't sell 'em short. They worked in a little Pro-Atheism as well by including the Bible with the 3Rs books. Atheism is like crack for academia - they can't get enough of it. One could say they're Evangelically Atheist. Religiously anti-religious.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (bZwzw)

47 20 8 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)

That homeschooling is like being in prison.

That's why I said in the rant that they're straight up lying about stuff.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (m8d3m)

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The article focuses on, from what I understand, some pocket cases of people home schooling their kids without teaching them things like math.

It's not really a survey of how home schooling affects kids, but more of a conflagration of the worst home schoolers with the rest of the population.

I fully expect her follow up on the worst crimes of the public school system representing the public school system as a whole to be just as well received.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (LvTSG)

48 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)
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It's showing that my kids, who could be done with all their schoolwork for the day by noon if they wanted, are actually in prison while the kids who are at the local schools for 6 or 7 hours a day are outside playing with not a care in the world.

Until they come home from sports practice or a game and then have to stay up doing homework, while my kids get a shower and go off to bed.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (/669Q)

49 OK, this is fun. However, skip the comments on Republicans because OF COURSE they bash them.

Room Rater twitter feed shows peoples' chosen web-conferencing backgrounds:

https://twitter.com/ratemyskyperoom

Probably already specialists who will create a skype/ZOOM space set design for you so that you are projecting the proper image. lol!

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (bDqIh)

50 The idea that kids belong to the "community" and not their parents seems to be gaining steam on the left. They really aren't even trying to hide their inner commie any longer.

Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

51 And with that article, Elizabeth Bartholet has put herself in the lead for Secretary of Education under a Biden presidency.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (ch6++)

52
Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.
Posted by: pep

I saw a different version in which they did spell it correctly (after being called out on it).

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (aKsyK)

53 Yeah, homeschooling is like a prison, because, unlike teachers, parents can't tell kids to go outside and leave them alone.

Oh, wait....
Posted by: blake

Facebook meme:

"Dear teacher, if my kid flinches when you raise your right hand, mind your own business".

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (rGtm/)

54 > I did that deliberately. I like to leave things for the Horde to discover for themselves, in order to stimulate conversations.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (m8d3m)

Ok, now do shutting them up.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (sjdRT)

55 The mystery guests today are familiar to me, but I can't come up with names. Someone suggested Richard Todd, and I guess that could be.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (rpbg1)

56 LOL. The comments section to the homeschooling article has been CLOSED -- after NINE comments! And read the comments... they're definitely NOT fans of the article.

Posted by: red speck at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (gS3OW)

57 Anti-home schoolers always say that they are concerned about socialization. They assume the only way kids get together is in school.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (aKsyK)
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It's almost like neighbor kids, kids at church, kids in the boy scouts/cub scouts, siblings, cousins, etc. don't even exist at all...

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (hYcqw)

58 So - we're told that teachers are heroes for conducting (mythical) online teaching but kids are really outside in large groups playing with one another while the only people stupid enough to actually want to teach their children are the dumb Bible-thumpers who literally imprison their children. So what are the other kids learning right now? Is this just early summer vacation? I've been informed that public school teachers are literally doing double time right now. Double what? Jump roping?

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:19 AM (lwiT4)

59 Are we ready to raise the black flag yet?

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 24, 2020 11:19 AM (0OmEj)

60 I've committed to a feral beard for the duration of the Wuhans. I'm not at David Letterman level yet, but I think I've passed Mandy Patinkin.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:19 AM (gd9RK)

61 32 20
8 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)

That homeschooling is like being in prison.

That's why I said in the rant that they're straight up lying about stuff.

Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (T6t7i)

My thought at first...

Upon reflection, I believe the "artiste" is being ironic. After all they read the Bible...a person who does that ain't smart.

Posted by: Marvin Martian at April 24, 2020 11:19 AM (gD6Ka)

62 Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (T6t7i)

They actually updated the drawing with the correct spelling after they got dunked on repeatedly, but not before I got a screenshot.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (m8d3m)

63 https://tinyurl.com/gnwa37x
Such a lovely universe we live in!

Posted by: Brown Line

Very nice. Thanks.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (T6t7i)

64 I wonder if I could substitute a Reese's peanut butter egg for that cookie (still plenty of them from the kids' Easter baskets).

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (ch6++)
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Your kids still have Reese's eggs left in their basket and you haven't eaten them yet? What kind of a parent are you?

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (/669Q)

65 You really can't get Goth unless you went to Public School. I doubt Homeschoolers go Goth.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (ZB42Q)

66

Richard Todd and Eva Bartok they were in a movie called The Assassin. ( a little help from IMDB)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (UUv9T)

67 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

68 Are we ready to raise the black flag yet?
Posted by: USNtakim

Been ready for years.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (rGtm/)

69
The article focuses on, from what I understand, some pocket cases of people home schooling their kids without teaching them things like math.

As opposed to public schools, where they are not taught math, either.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (pNxlR)

70 The guy kinda looks like Richard Burton...but not enough to say that's my guess

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (axyOa)

71 Result of good parenting:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (Zz0t1)

72 Product and proponent of public schooling:

https://youtu.be/m68Pw-KZvvo

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (Zz0t1)

73 People like this Bartholet character are the perfect example of the
pernicious force that has taken over government, media and academia. She
clearly believes that the state is the fount of rights, and the state
doles them out to its subjects.

At the roots of all of it is an ethos of "Don't question the experts", and it has a shit-pot of supporters. More than you may think.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (bZwzw)

74 And yeah, homeschool is prison. As if.

I was not ever homeschooled, but I can tell you that the strict regimentation, control, down-to-the-second scheduling, code enforcement and rule books a mile long that are SOP at public schools have more than a tangential similarity to prison rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)

75 Being imprisoned by the truth is a good thing.

Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (Y274z)

76 Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.

reading riting and rithmatic

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (5bxa0)

77 From my admittedly limited perspective, I'm not all that impressed with what comes out of Harvard. Seems to be much ado about nothing.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (+0AKE)

78 59 Are we ready to raise the black flag yet?
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I'm sharpening my knife, boss, sharpening my knife.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (ZB42Q)

79 69
The article focuses on, from what I understand, some pocket cases of people home schooling their kids without teaching them things like math.

As opposed to public schools, where they are not taught math, either.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (pNxlR)

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I mean, the fact that NY public schools output functional illiterates as the standard is kind of damning.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

80 Richard Todd and Eva Bartok they were in a movie called The Assassin. ( a little help from IMDB)

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (UUv9T)

So....you cheated.

Posted by: BignJames at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (X/Pw5)

81 54 > I did that deliberately. I like to leave things for the Horde to discover for themselves, in order to stimulate conversations.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social
Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (m8d3m)

Ok, now do shutting them up.

Posted by: Muad'dib at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (sjdRT)

Heh. No can do. That's like feeding a bunch of sugary cookies and coffee to a kindergarten class and then telling them to sit still.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (m8d3m)

82 Holy c**p, Muldoon whipped this up a a couple of minutes -- dude is a genus if not genius. Willowed:

615
There's a limerick in there somewhere. And you're more than just some
dude on a blog -- you may be the punniest dude on some blog.

********

Probably Willard But What The Heck - a limerick

I'm feeling as sick as a dog

I can't breathe through this bronchial clog

So I thought that I just might

Try a shot of DINOVITE

'Cause I heard it from some guy on a blog!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (Fc5rx)

Posted by: ShainS -- Failure has a thousand Faucis, but Success is an OrangeMan at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (WqPYg)

83 I've committed to a feral beard for the duration of the Wuhans. I'm not at David Letterman level yet, but I think I've passed Mandy Patinkin.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:19 AM (gd9RK)
++++++++++++
I have quit shaving until I can live my life, too. It's getting ridiculous. I might leave the 'stache when I shave off the beard, though. I haven't decided.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (hYcqw)

84 77 From my admittedly limited perspective, I'm not all that impressed with what comes out of Harvard. Seems to be much ado about nothing.

That's Haaaaavad

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (5bxa0)

85 Are we ready to raise the black flag yet?

Posted by: USNtakim

Been ready for years.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (rGtm/)

One of the few instance where I'm more than eager to be a joiner.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (bZwzw)

86 74 And yeah, homeschool is prison. As if.

I was not ever homeschooled, but I can tell you that the strict regimentation, control, down-to-the-second scheduling, code enforcement and rule books a mile long that are SOP at public schools have more than a tangential similarity to prison rules.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)

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It's not like the public school system is modeled off Prussian military schooling principles, or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (LvTSG)

87 The odds of a home schooled child would become gay, trans or whatever they do to mutilate themselves now a days would be slim to none.

That pisses the left off to no end.

We can't have that.....

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (Zz0t1)

88 I've been informed that public school teachers are literally doing double time right now. Double what? Jump roping?

Not all districts are doing the same thing but I'm teaching live classes every day online.

It's a shortened day and I get to day drink, so there's that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (gd9RK)

89 You really can't get Goth unless you went to Public School. I doubt Homeschoolers go Goth.
Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (ZB42Q)
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Eh, some do. We have all kinds.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (/669Q)

90 The guy kinda looks like Richard Burton...but not enough to say that's my guess

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (axyOa)

Yeah...I thought he did in one pic.

Posted by: BignJames at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (X/Pw5)

91 I think he's very handsome and masculine. Most modern actors look a little soi.

Posted by: CN at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (ONvIw)

92 Richard Todd for certain, and I think that's Patricia Neal. The Hasty Heart for the connection?

Posted by: Jamie at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (f/f2q)

93 >> OM -- You didn't mention the spelling. I guess mathy folks don't need no steenkin' spelling.

I am thinking the misspelling was intentional given the tone of the article - "Those stupid bible-thumpin' authoritarian homeschooling parents are using their power over their children to teach them wrong-headed stuff without following our government curriculum!!!"

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (bDqIh)

94 Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.

reading riting and rithmatic

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2020
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The Heartbreak of Psoriatic Arthritis

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (rpbg1)

95 If I'm being honest, I'm also in favor of imprisoning children.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (+0AKE)

96 88 I've been informed that public school teachers are literally doing double time right now. Double what? Jump roping?

Not all districts are doing the same thing but I'm teaching live classes every day online.

It's a shortened day and I get to day drink, so there's that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (gd9RK)

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My only direct experience right now is with Junior's kindergarten teacher.

She's not doing quite as much as you. Maybe as much drinking. Not sure.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (LvTSG)

97 What's ironic for me is the Coronavirus temporarily saved my job. My company is in Receivership and was in the process of finalizing a deal where they were paying another company to take our book of business ( active Workers Comp claims) . It involves a lot of regulatory approval which obviously had been delayed. Yea lucky me ( sarcasm as I was looking to semi-retire and had been coasting). Now I have to bear down again and do actual work. .

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (EV+4+)

98 Love the hooker haircut meme, just sent it to my hairdresser

Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (wiXsO)

99 It's not like the public school system is modeled off Prussian military schooling principles, or anything.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts

Um.......

Posted by: Poland at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (T6t7i)

100 69
The article focuses on, from what I understand, some pocket cases of people home schooling their kids without teaching them things like math.

As opposed to public schools, where they are not taught math, either.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM

The 1% has all the math and numbers, and we make sure the kids know it and resent the rich and successful!

Posted by: Public School Teachers Socialist Union at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (Of/Uk)

101 Richard Todd and Eva Bartok they were in a movie called The Assassin. ( a little help from IMDB)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (UUv9T)

You are correct sir, but points off for doing a bit of cheating.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (m8d3m)

102 You really can't get Goth unless you went to Public School. I doubt Homeschoolers go Goth.

No. 2 Son is a private school kid who went Goth.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (gd9RK)

103 I feel like 1984 is going to be an apropos viewing for tonight. I haven't watched it since I bought it because it almost immediately went into storage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (LvTSG)

104 My daughter set the test curve in a 300 level econ class as a freshman at Grand Canyon University. Homeschoolers don't properly understand arithmetic, you go with that Harvard.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (DjiZK)

105 If we sacrifice De Blasio to the rona god the virus will die. If that doesn't work we can try offering RBG. Its a plan. Let's please rona.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (ZB42Q)

106 My sister homeschooled her three boys, she has a teaching degree and is a filthy Christian. Her boys have tons of friends through church and sports.

Posted by: Regular joe at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (6/uwW)

107 If I'm being honest, I'm also in favor of imprisoning children.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (+0AKE)

I raised two. You're not a bad person in my book.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (bZwzw)

108 The idea that kids belong to the "community" and not their parents seems to be gaining steam on the left. They really aren't even trying to hide their inner commie any longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)

That's a good point right there.

Posted by: runner at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (zr5Kq)

109 So....you cheated.

Posted by: BignJames at April 24, 2020 11:22 AM (X/Pw5)

I got Richard Todd. Then looked at photos on IMDB of him and bingo! Never heard of her or that movie before. Todd was in The Longest Day and part of the Normandy Invasion in real life. "Hold until relieved."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:25 AM (UUv9T)

110 >>Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+

I have two questions then: 1) is the chick hot? and 2) do they still have the prop bikini outfit that Carrie Fisher wore for her to use?

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ti+Tv)

111

A good Richard Todd movie is "A Man Called Peter"

The rise of Peter Marshall, from modest Scottish upbringing, to New York seminary, time in Atlanta churches, his marriage, appointment as chaplain of the US Senate, and early death at 46. Based on real events.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2020 11:25 AM (aKsyK)

112 I am thinking the misspelling was intentional given the tone of the article - "Those stupid bible-thumpin' authoritarian homeschooling parents are using their power over their children to teach them wrong-headed stuff without following our government curriculum!!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (bDqIh)
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Nope! Twitchy (I think) has something about this. Apparently after the misspelling was pointed out they changed the cartoon quietly with no explanation.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (/669Q)

113 Eh, some do. We have all kinds.
Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (/669Q)
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Reminds me of chaperoning a field trip for eldest daughter.

Noticed a kid trying to do Goth. I wanted to shake him and tell him Preppy Goth was doing it wrong.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

114 102 You really can't get Goth unless you went to Public School. I doubt Homeschoolers go Goth.

No. 2 Son is a private school kid who went Goth.
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Bandersnatch, how do you explain this?

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (ZB42Q)

115 113 Eh, some do. We have all kinds.
Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (/669Q)
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Reminds me of chaperoning a field trip for eldest daughter.

Noticed a kid trying to do Goth. I wanted to shake him and tell him Preppy Goth was doing it wrong.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

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Conformist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

116 I don't know much about schooling, home or otherwise, of children. I have my opinions like everyone else, regarding the indoctrination that happens in public skrewels, but since most kids who attend them manage to turn out ok, I think the concern about them is at least somewhat exaggerated.

What happens inside the home is much more significant.

And particularly, what happened in the first 4 years or so, generally before earnest schooling starts.

Data is damn near universally consistent: Kids who are abused/neglected in those first 4 years of life will live a life that has all sorts of problems.

What problems?

You name it.

And all the king's horses and all the king's men have tried to fix the problem after the fact, throughout the course of the life of the person who went through hell in those years. So far, we've only barely put a dent into fixing things.

Once the horse is out of the barn (to mix my metaphors), it's damn near impossible to put it back. I'd like to believe the opposite is true, that parents who provide children with loving, supportive homes in those first few years, will be insulated from most of those problems later in life, but alas, the world sometimes does catch up to them. One way or another.

Still, if you want to "fix" the system, you pretty much have to start at birth. If the state was genuinely serious about helping kids, they would do that. But we know, sadly, they won't. And don't.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (hku12)

117 Spent thirty years in a parish that had probably about 70 % homeschoolers.

The last ten years they have had a co-op for middle and high-school subjects some parents are not equipped to teach.

Many go to college, some go to seminary, some go to trade schools or open their own small businesses. A second generation is schooling their own young kids.

They play sports, they are active in the arts (theater is especially popular), they are free to travel with their families or work outside school hours.

Are there a few families who shouldn't be doing this?
Sure- but their numbers are very small compared to those that do this well and successfully.

And the article does not address the "unschooling" parents who are not religiously motivated.

So, yeah- old arguments from decades ago, and pretty blatant motives.

Posted by: Sal at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (bo8pf)

118 I have two questions then: 1) is the chick hot? and 2) do they still have the prop bikini outfit that Carrie Fisher wore for her to use?
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ti+Tv)
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Female Star Wars is not for *you* and your despicable male gaze, Roy. It's empowering for women. It's not for the patriarchy.

Be better.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (hYcqw)

119 Dallas county woman that opened her salon against city "guidelines" had 911 called on her by neighboring Karen's.

My hairdresser is in Denton county and she's locked out of her salon completely and can't even get in to get her personal belongings and has been told she'll lose her license if she's caught cutting hair.

This is unbelievable.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (Zz0t1)

120 I was not ever homeschooled, but I can tell you that the strict
regimentation, control, down-to-the-second scheduling, code enforcement
and rule books a mile long that are SOP at public schools have more than
a tangential similarity to prison rules.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020
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Nor was I homeschooled in the classic sense. And my public school days were back when you actually had to learn something, and you could fail and have to repeat a grade. But I considered school to be like a prison -- when the old Warners prison pictures showed on the Late Show, I related. I still think I learned more watching Jeopardy! in the daytime and reading novels, nonfiction, and the encyclopedia than I did in classes. So a LOT of my schooling was at home.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (rpbg1)

121 I heard we should go long on bleach futures

Posted by: It's me donna at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (5bxa0)

122 I have two questions then: 1) is the chick hot? and
2) do they still have the prop bikini outfit that Carrie Fisher wore for
her to use?

Posted by: Roy

The funny thing is that Carrie Fisher really wasn't that attractive. It was a costume that made her memorable.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (T6t7i)

123 South Korea had only 6 new cases of Coronavirus yesterday. That from conducting 10k tests.

Good for them, they may have eliminated the virus from their Peninsula, but it comes at a high cost until a vaccine is found, if ever. I see no way they can keep the virus out without virtually shutting themselves off from the outside world.

Posted by: Serious Cat at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (zqs/f)

124 Willowed and revised:

Slap Hot Iron To It - a limerick

I'm feeling as sick as a dog
I've got a bad bronchial clog
So now I might
Try DINO-VITE
On advice from a guy on a blog!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (Fc5rx)

125 Not all districts are doing the same thing but I'm teaching live classes every day online.

It's a shortened day and I get to day drink, so there's that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (gd9RK)

Grandkids are in a top-notch Charter school. At least they were top-notch until the Black Death appeared. The only one getting daily online instruction is the 5th grader. One-two hours, I believe. The 1st grader and 3rd grader are each getting one hour of online teaching a WEEK. One hour. But hey - heroes!

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (lwiT4)

126 113 Eh, some do. We have all kinds.
Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (/669Q)
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Reminds me of chaperoning a field trip for eldest daughter.

Noticed a kid trying to do Goth. I wanted to shake him and tell him Preppy Goth was doing it wrong.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

How did Goths go from badasses who sacked Rome to sad weird kids who shop at Hot Topic?

Posted by: just here for the jokes at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (Izzlo)

127 At this point neglectful negligent freerange homeschooling is preferable to state run school. Here kid learn to read spell and rithmatic via the horde while we day drink would be better.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (0OmEj)

128 I think the only valid argument against homeschooling is that teaching talent is not evenly distributed. Some people are just better at it then others.

On the other hand, the current state run schools don't do much to promote talented teachers and remove bad ones.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (+0AKE)

129 118 I have two questions then: 1) is the chick hot? and 2) do they still have the prop bikini outfit that Carrie Fisher wore for her to use?
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ti+Tv)
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Female Star Wars is not for *you* and your despicable male gaze, Roy. It's empowering for women. It's not for the patriarchy.

Be better.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (hYcqw)

So they're fat and ugly.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (Zm+LZ)

130 118 I have two questions then: 1) is the chick hot? and 2) do they still have the prop bikini outfit that Carrie Fisher wore for her to use?
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:25 AM (Ti+Tv)
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Female Star Wars is not for *you* and your despicable male gaze, Roy. It's empowering for women. It's not for the patriarchy.

Be better.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (hYcqw)

True dat. 50% of the population is already not invited. Maybe they'll offer free valet service for the Subarus at the theaters.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (Ti+Tv)

131 You are correct sir, but points off for doing a bit of cheating.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (m8d3m)

I thought it paid to be honest?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (UUv9T)

132 Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.
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Oh, the irony.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (GBHAb)

133 People like this Bartholet character are the perfect example of the pernicious force that has taken over government, media and academia. She clearly believes that the state is the fount of rights, and the state doles them out to its subjects.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:16 AM (hYcqw)

And that is the basic difference between progressives and conservatives. Conservatives believe that our rights are from God (or nature) but progressives believes they are given to us by the state. Because they cannot conceive of anything higher than the state.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (m8d3m)

134 I would like to have Netflix Just for this:

23 hours to kill-a clip from a special on Seinfield as James Bond:

https://tinyurl.com/y8zdcj6h

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (bW1Yb)

135 Have you seen the new emo/goth grass?
It cuts itself.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (DjiZK)

136 Homeschooling pic - Joke's on Harvard asshoes: all the kids outside met the Red Death. Only homeschoolers lived.
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seriusslee, What an incredibly stupid cartoon. Would like to hear a critique of it by my cousin, whose numerous kids were all home-schooled, enjoyed team sports and activities, had a good support network of fellow homeschoolers, and, yes, Christian support groups. His oldest are going on to successful college and careers.

Mumbled years ago, when we were raising our kids in Chicago, we didn't have anything like the homeschooling networks, but we sure did take every advantage of the city, parks, museums, etc., and fortunately we had a lot of extended family (Milady's).

Yeah, we were dangerous. Shoulda put the kids in the Chicago public school system instead, where they'd be safe.

Posted by: mindful webworker
radically inclined webworks
at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (G0qhR)

137 111

A good Richard Todd movie is "A Man Called Peter"

The rise of Peter Marshall, from modest Scottish upbringing, to New York seminary, time in Atlanta churches, his marriage, appointment as chaplain of the US Senate, and early death at 46. Based on real events.

pretty good on Hollywood Squares too.

Posted by: Priapism at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (2cfUo)

138 128 I think the only valid argument against homeschooling is that teaching talent is not evenly distributed. Some people are just better at it then others.

On the other hand, the current state run schools don't do much to promote talented teachers and remove bad ones.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (+0AKE)

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Outside the most extreme examples, I imagine that the one on one attention you get with homeschooling as opposed to being one of 30 outweighs a lot of the difference in teaching ability.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (LvTSG)

139 My daughters teacher sent home a writing assignment about Earth Day and how the shutdown has affected emissions. We're going to have a lot of fun with it and I'd love your help. So far I've got increased water and wastewater electrical, chemical, and maintenance demands, plant startup waste products in vats that can't be used or sold and can only be discarded after energy was used prior to the shutdown, the energy costs associated with stopping oil wells and fracking facilities food waste that is illegal to sell outside of schools or other supply chains (including food and fertilizer cost to raise, as well as transportation and processing), and reduced demand for electric vehicles now that oil prices have dropped to $10/barrel.

What else?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (41rs/)

140 126 113 Eh, some do. We have all kinds.
Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (/669Q)
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Reminds me of chaperoning a field trip for eldest daughter.

Noticed a kid trying to do Goth. I wanted to shake him and tell him Preppy Goth was doing it wrong.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (WEBkv)

How did Goths go from badasses who sacked Rome to sad weird kids who shop at Hot Topic?
Posted by: just here for the jokes at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (Izzlo)

Artists.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (Zm+LZ)

141 I've been home schooling the grandkids these last two months.
We had so much fun doing a chemistry experiment last week that we are doing it again today.
How to identify the smell of chloroform.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (axyOa)

142 I thought it paid to be honest?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (UUv9T)

Well it does. And you took your punishment like a man.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (m8d3m)

143 Conformist.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (LvTSG)

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Number two son went thru a brief Goth stage.

When asked he said he was just just trying to express his individualism.

I said you look like everybody else in your peer group. Wanna be an individual???? Cut your hair and wear a tie. See how fast your individualism gets shouted down.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (nw6Hr)

144 nothing is more fun than being a Goth at an all girls private Catholic school with nuns

it's kind of ... more fitting than rebellious honestly

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 11:30 AM (j9HX3)

145 True dat. 50% of the population is already not invited. Maybe they'll offer free valet service for the Subarus at the theaters.
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (Ti+Tv)

Soundtrack by Melissa Etheridge. Everyone in the movie wears space-flannel.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:30 AM (bZwzw)

146 The idea that kids belong to the "community" and not their parents seems to be gaining steam on the left. They really aren't even trying to hide their inner commie any longer.
Posted by: JackStraw
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It takes a child to raze a village.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 24, 2020 11:30 AM (WZ5i4)

147 I love the part of South Park: The Stick of Truth where you have to become a non-conformist by going around the town and finding all of the goth stuff.

It's been a joke on the show for a long time, but to actually have to do it was fun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:31 AM (LvTSG)

148 What else?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (41rs/)

The mass dumping of milk by dairy farmers has to affect the waterways.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:31 AM (Ti+Tv)

149 I hope the totalitarianism of blue state governors and mayors is making some of their tax slaves wake up to Horowitz's insight that inside every progressive there is a totalitarian screaming to get out.

Posted by: parker at April 24, 2020 11:31 AM (LN9tx)

150
What else?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths

Dude!!!
That is more than enough to get them expelled! Let us know how it goes.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:31 AM (axyOa)

151 >>I have two questions then: 1) is the chick hot? and 2) do they still have the prop bikini outfit that Carrie Fisher wore for her to use?

1 -- She will be a clone (ironic!) of the recent Star Wars lead women: tiny, flat-chested, brunette and British.

2 -- That costume is in a museum somewhere. Saw it in a traveling Star Wars costume exhibit 20+ years ago at the Smithsonian, and again at the Denver Art Museum in 2019. NO WAY would they make a costume like that for today's Star Wars.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:31 AM (bDqIh)

152 No. 2 Son is a private school kid who went Goth.
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Bandersnatch, how do you explain this?

I think it started with Sisters of Mercy. Kid is a strong willed individual.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM (gd9RK)

153 I come from a family of teachers, but quickly saw that a teaching degree is a racket. The kids realize its a party school degree for those who have no idea what to do with their lives, and the schools have turned it into a six-year degree, BA + MA

Posted by: Regular joe at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM (6/uwW)

154 Super smarty expert has Illustration with "ARITHMATIC."
EXPERTY EXPERT.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM (pw+jk)

155 I feel for poor kids, I really do. If you're a minority child in a city school, it's almost certain that your teachers and administrators are awful. OTOH, if you are homeschooled, your parents are likely to be not as well educated, possibly working multiple jobs, and might not value education as much as the white UMC. These are generalizations, of course, but there is truth to them. You're screwed either way.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM (T6t7i)

156 Homeschool kids don't get proper Socialism, er socialization

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM (mavV2)

157 Serious question. If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also? In fact egregious fraud would destroy the results of an election and really damage the vote by mail idea with the libs.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (fMhOl)

Because, progressives are seldom prosecuted for voting fraud, and if prosecuted, are seldom found guilty. If found guilty, sentance is no more than a slap on the wrist. Conservatives WILL be prosecuted, even by conservative DA's, to the full extent of the law. See campaign finance law violations and foreign representative law for examples.

Posted by: Agitator at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (oEmr5)

158 The mass dumping of milk by dairy farmers has to affect the waterways

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That's a really great point. I don't know the chemistry, but something so nutrient rich probably has special treatment requirements.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (41rs/)

159
The beard, which has been a regular thing with me for over twenty-five years, met the electric trimmer yesterday. I have never worn it to any grrat length and have kept it trimmed from an eighth inch to a quarter inch (preferred) in length. The missus agreed to take the clipper to my hair this weekend.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (pNxlR)

160 Outside the most extreme examples, I imagine that the one on one attention you get with homeschooling as opposed to being one of 30 outweighs a lot of the difference in teaching ability.

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Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (+0AKE)

161 152 No. 2 Son is a private school kid who went Goth.
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Bandersnatch, how do you explain this?

I think it started with Sisters of Mercy. Kid is a strong willed individual.
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How did he turn out?

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (ZB42Q)

162
2 -- That costume is in a museum somewhere. Saw it in a traveling Star Wars costume exhibit 20+ years ago at the Smithsonian, and again at the Denver Art Museum in 2019. NO WAY would they make a costume like that for today's Star Wars.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:31 AM (bDqIh)

They could always remake it in a curvy, plus-size version.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (Ti+Tv)

163 What else?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (41rs/)
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How about how some places (mine) have stopped recycling glass because they used to sell it to the Chinese but they stopped buying it and no one else wants it?

For bonus current event points you can mention that places that used to ban plastic bags now mandate their use because people are afraid that reusable bags can carry coronavirus.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (/669Q)

164 What in the world is that picture trying to convey?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (lwiT4)

Note that the cartoonist, a leftard, cannot spell "arithmetic".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (miJU3)

165 If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also?

Conservatives can go to prison.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (KhUQ4)

166 I went to public school and did fine - but honestly, I just learned 99% of it out of the book.
I can't imagine that home-schooling would have been any worse.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (bZwzw)

167 South Korea doesn't have to keep the virus out. If enough people have had it and developed antibodies, they will continue to have very few cases.

Latest Dr Campbell video was a study from Wuhan on children and the virus. Median age was 6.7. Kids caught it in family groups. Most don't run a fever, but do have a cough and signs of possible pnuemonia. 3 out of 171 that diagnosed positive had to be in the ICU. All had other medical conditions. One died. Looks like most children will have very light cases and likely won't even need to see a doctor. Sample is very small but gives us some data.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (JKNZq)

168 I feel like 1984 is going to be an apropos viewing
for tonight. I haven't watched it since I bought it because it almost
immediately went into storage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020[/i
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Which version?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (rpbg1)

169 My kids skipped the Emo/Goth thing and went strait to the heavy metal rock scene. I couldn't complain.

Posted by: IP at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (CTv2h)

170 Trump calls for unorthodox treatments for coronavirus.

Lysol forced to release a statement NOT to ingest their product.

We truly live in really fucking stupid times.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

171 The mass dumping of milk by dairy farmers has to affect the waterways

All to the good.

Posted by: Catfish at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (T6t7i)

172 There may be some risks to home-schooling, depending on who's doing it.

***********

Self-Schooling - a limerick

There once was a man known as Beecher
An auto-didactic young preacher
He pondered, "How come?
My student's so dumb?"
Well, he's got a fool for a teacher!

Posted by: Muldoon at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (Fc5rx)

173 Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (+0AKE)
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You would be surprised what comes back to you when you take a look at it again.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (/669Q)

174 For bonus current event points you can mention that places that used to ban plastic bags now mandate their use because people are afraid that reusable bags can carry coronavirus.

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Holy cow, I'd forgotten all about the movement back to evil plastic. Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (41rs/)

175 Still zero cases in North Korea.

North Korea is the best Korea and CHI nah asshoe.

Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (Y274z)

176 I feel for poor kids, I really do. If you're a minority child in a city school, it's almost certain that your teachers and administrators are awful. OTOH, if you are homeschooled, your parents are likely to be not as well educated, possibly working multiple jobs, and might not value education as much as the white UMC. These are generalizations, of course, but there is truth to them. You're screwed either way.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM

At least with the home schooling, you will probably get the sense of discipline from the parent(s).

Posted by: Diogenes at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (axyOa)

177 160 Outside the most extreme examples, I imagine that the one on one attention you get with homeschooling as opposed to being one of 30 outweighs a lot of the difference in teaching ability.

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Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (+0AKE)

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Well, I never found calculus that hard...

But yeah, there's an example that would be hard to overcome. But, at the same time, if a kid is completely lost in a subject without direct attention from a teacher who understands it, I do wonder what good the effort is.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

178 170 Trump calls for unorthodox treatments for coronavirus.

Lysol forced to release a statement NOT to ingest their product.

We truly live in really fucking stupid times.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)

Get in line.

Posted by: Tide at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (Ti+Tv)

179 VisiGoth or OstroGoth?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (aKsyK)

180 112 I am thinking the misspelling was intentional given the tone of the article - "Those stupid bible-thumpin' authoritarian homeschooling parents are using their power over their children to teach them wrong-headed stuff without following our government curriculum!!!"
Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:23 AM (bDqIh)
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Nope! Twitchy (I think) has something about this. Apparently after the misspelling was pointed out they changed the cartoon quietly with no explanation.
Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:26 AM (/669Q)

I think Bluebell is right: i.e. they changed it to the correct spelling after getting laughed at.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (m8d3m)

181 If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also?

They don't control the secretary of states offices or the vote counting systems.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (KZzsI)

182 127 At this point neglectful negligent freerange homeschooling is preferable to state run school. Here kid learn to read spell and rithmatic via the horde while we day drink would be better.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM (0OmEj)

Hmmm, maybe a Horde based curriculum.

Ace put's out a syllabus, or sources it out to the community, along the lines of Deplorable Gourmet.

That would be a resume enhancer...mmmh, mmmh!

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (gD6Ka)

183 166
I went to public school and did fine - but honestly, I just learned 99% of it out of the book.
I can't imagine that home-schooling would have been any worse.

Ditto. Also, I spent most of my mental bandwidth thinking about Amy D's breasts.

Posted by: Catfish at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (T6t7i)

184 64 I wonder if I could substitute a Reese's peanut butter egg for that cookie (still plenty of them from the kids' Easter baskets).

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 24, 2020 11:17 AM (ch6++)
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Your kids still have Reese's eggs left in their basket and you haven't eaten them yet? What kind of a parent are you?

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:20 AM (/669Q)------------

I mispoke, after checking, there are actually only three left.

And having seen that, I should increase my use of the elliptical by one more day a week.

Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (ch6++)

185 168 I feel like 1984 is going to be an apropos viewing
for tonight. I haven't watched it since I bought it because it almost
immediately went into storage.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020[/i
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Which version?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (rpbg1)

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1984 version.

Ba da chi.

The one with John Hurt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

186 Catfish = pep

Posted by: Catfish at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (T6t7i)

187 >>They could always remake it in a curvy, plus-size version.

Who would wear it? I'm guessing the Wrey actress fits into tween boy clothes, she's so tiny in lacking in curves.

Posted by: Lizzy at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (bDqIh)

188
I went to public school and did fine - but honestly, I just learned 99% of it out of the book.
I can't imagine that home-schooling would have been any worse.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020
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Invariably in grade school, our teacher would tell us NOT to read ahead in our reading text. Just as invariably, I'd bring mine home in my bookbag and read the entire thing in a weekend. No wonder I was bored.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (rpbg1)

189 160 Outside the most extreme examples, I imagine that the one on one attention you get with homeschooling as opposed to being one of 30 outweighs a lot of the difference in teaching ability.

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Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (+0AKE)

High school Calculus is exclusively the concern of AP students. And let's be frank you can just buy them a textbook and have them learn it without a teacher, that's what it'll amount to in college later anyways.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (Zm+LZ)

190 Serious question. If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also? In fact egregious fraud would destroy the results of an election and really damage the vote by mail idea with the libs.

Except the Deep State would actually prosecute conservative-backed election fraud.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (miJU3)

191 It heartened me a tiny bit to see a protest at the house of one of those Idaho jackboots.

A bunch of people protesting that Mom's arrest showed up at the cops house. He had 4 uniformed police there to protect his precious little cowardly behind.

Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (sxq57)

192
I was not ever homeschooled, but I can tell you that the strict regimentation, control, down-to-the-second scheduling, code enforcement and rule books a mile long that are SOP at public schools have more than a tangential similarity to prison rules.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:21 AM (hYcqw)

Four kids, three grandkids in the public system.
Spent a lot of time volunteering.
What I noticed becoming more prevalent over the years was the sheer amount of time teachers had to spend simply getting their classes quiet and focused enough to teach them anything.

I do not remember this being a problem when I was in elementary school. You would have the one "Klass Klown" or odd kid acting out, but everyone else behaved themselves.

Posted by: Sal at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (bo8pf)

193 Ditto. Also, I spent most of my mental bandwidth thinking about Amy D's breasts.
Posted by: Catfish at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (T6t7i)

You too ? That Amy sure was somethin'.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (bZwzw)

194 What else?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (41rs/)
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Her teacher is going to *hate* you.

Well done. Please please please let us know what teach's reaction is.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (hYcqw)

195 I was watching the Assassin the other evening and basically liked it. She was lovely, he was handsome and the Italian backgrounds were great.

Todd was in the British 6th Airborne in WWII and was one of the first Brit soldiers in Normandy. I liked him for that alone. The first "military" picture I saw on him was real.

Posted by: CN at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

196 At least with the home schooling, you will probably get the sense of discipline from the parent(s).

Posted by: Diogenes

I have my doubts. If they were disciplined themselves, they probably wouldn't be poor.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (T6t7i)

197 No depiction of public schoolkids getting bullied, knifed, beat up, robbed?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (oVJmc)

198 Reading, Writing, Mathematics, and the Bible seem like an excellent foundation for childrens' education. So much so that it seems pretty damning for the author to condemn them.

I know, the problem is that multiculturalism, sexual perversion, and leftist indoctrination aren't included.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (KZzsI)

199 189 160 Outside the most extreme examples, I imagine that the one on one attention you get with homeschooling as opposed to being one of 30 outweighs a lot of the difference in teaching ability.

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Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (+0AKE)

High school Calculus is exclusively the concern of AP students. And let's be frank you can just buy them a textbook and have them learn it without a teacher, that's what it'll amount to in college later anyways.
Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (Zm+LZ)

Kahn Academy...

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (gD6Ka)

200 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020
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Nor was I homeschooled in the classic sense. And my public school days were back when you actually had to learn something, and you could fail and have to repeat a grade. But I considered school to be like a prison -- when the old Warners prison pictures showed on the Late Show, I related. I still think I learned more watching Jeopardy! in the daytime and reading novels, nonfiction, and the encyclopedia than I did in classes. So a LOT of my schooling was at home.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:27 AM (rpbg1)

Funny how schools, which are overwhelmingly taught by women, are often a pleasure for the girls, and torture for the boys.

Doing well in schools for boys is often in SPITE of hating the experience, whereas girls seem to get some sort of perverse pleasure from pleasing their teachers and doing what they're told. It's crazy.

So anyhoo, this seems to... I don't know, have something something to do with the concept of competition and how that translates into success in life after school.

But it's the freakin PATRIARCHY that somehow makes the world more difficult for women in the workplace.

Sure.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)

201 Your kids still have Reese's eggs left in their basket and you haven't eaten them yet? What kind of a parent are you?

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My kids found one Cadbury mini egg - the little M&M type candy - under the couch this morning. They fought over it and we ended up cutting it in half.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (41rs/)

202 New York is releasing criminals and Meridian, Idaho police are arresting
moms for playing with their kids outside. What the hell are we doing,
folks?

Welcome to our leftist utopia comrades

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (UUv9T)

203 I went to public school and did fine - but honestly, I just learned 99% of it out of the book.
I can't imagine that home-schooling would have been any worse.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (bZwzw)

They don't do books anymore.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (lwiT4)

204 Well it's official. Grandbaby #7 coming in December!

Posted by: IP at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (CTv2h)

205 My kids skipped the Emo/Goth thing and went strait to the heavy metal rock scene. I couldn't complain.

Posted by: IP at April 24, 2020

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I was preppy 'fore preppy was cool.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (rpbg1)

206 Note that the cartoonist, a leftard, cannot spell "arithmetic".
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

Spelling is part of the patriarchy, man.

Don't push your spelling rules on me, man!

Keep your letters and your rules off me, man!

Or something similarly stupid.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (vcOmj)

207 189>> That's true. And learning to teach yourself or find learning resources on your own is probably the single most important thing to learn.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (+0AKE)

208 >>A bunch of people protesting that Mom's arrest showed up at the cops house. He had 4 uniformed police there to protect his precious little cowardly behind.

I expect nothing less from the police/law enforcement.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (/oZwS)

209 197 No depiction of public schoolkids getting bullied, knifed, beat up, robbed?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 24, 2020 11:37 AM (oVJmc)

No Safe Passage monitors needed to get the kids from the TV room to the den.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (Ti+Tv)

210 I'm just loving the exasperated cries of frustration from parents who never taught their children discipline or respect for anyone now having to deal with the results in their little darlings.

Its almost as if training your children to be disruptive, selfish, spoiled trash is tough to be around.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

211 Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.
We didn't teach our kids calculus, but the 2 engineers of our brood picked it up somewhere somehow.

Posted by: Hall Dall MD at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (mavV2)

212 How about how some places (mine) have stopped
recycling glass because they used to sell it to the Chinese but they
stopped buying it and no one else wants it?

For bonus current event points you can mention that places that used
to ban plastic bags now mandate their use because people are afraid
that reusable bags can carry coronavirus.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (/669Q)

Mesa has suspended recycling due to the virus, so both cans go to the landfill. Amazing what is actually necessary when it all comes down to it. Recycling is just a tax like every other eco government program.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (DjiZK)

213

Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+

The Empire Gets Bitchy

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (oVJmc)

214 Her teacher is going to *hate* you.

Well done. Please please please let us know what teach's reaction is.

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We're not doing it to be obstinate or contrarian, either. Just to address the whole "matter is neither created or destroyed" lesson that is always looked over in tree hugging causes.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (41rs/)

215 Back when our kids were in school, the homeschooled kids had guidelines from the state that had to be followed, quarterly reports sent into the state home school board, and lots of the homeschoolers developed co-ops with each other. They had regular meetups for kids to play and go on field trips. It was very organized and the parents were very serious about teaching their children. I briefly thought about doing it with my kids, but they went to Catholic schools, which were very good. Our public school system was horribly broken and the kids basically ran wild.

Posted by: megthered at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (XY66v)

216 Associated Propagandists is an enemy of the People.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (iSh8b)

217 They fought over it and we ended up cutting it in half.

*nods sagely*

Posted by: zombie King Solomon at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (pi370)

218 Lysol forced to release a statement NOT to ingest their product.

We truly live in really fucking stupid times.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:34 AM (Zz0t1)
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All those warnings about how you shouldn't drink Lysol that are right on the container weren't enough, eh?

Pro tip to actual morons: if there's poison control information on the label, do not take the contents internally in any manner.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (hYcqw)

219 Todd was in the British 6th Airborne in WWII and was
one of the first Brit soldiers in Normandy. I liked him for that
alone. The first "military" picture I saw on him was real.

Posted by: CN at April 24, 2020 11:36 AM (ONvIw)

In was also in The Longest Day portraying a Major John Howard who also parachuted into Normandy on D-Day. "Hold until relieved."

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (UUv9T)

220 I miss the days when baseball was the national sport.

Posted by: parker at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (LN9tx)

221 A bunch of people protesting that Mom's arrest showed up at the cops house. He had 4 uniformed police there to protect his precious little cowardly behind.

Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

222 Well it's official. Grandbaby #7 coming in December!

Posted by: IP at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (CTv2h)

Congratulations! That's wonderful news.

Posted by: grammie winger at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (lwiT4)

223
Reading, Writing, Mathematics, and the Bible seem like an excellent
foundation for childrens' education. So much so that it seems pretty
damning for the author to condemn them.

Said it a million times. I'm not spiritual. But for those that have no direction in life - and there are many - Christianity is a good thing.

If you're going to go through life brainless - at least go through brainlessly following the Bible. You'll do less harm than good.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (bZwzw)

224 Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.

How many high school math teachers do you think can even understand calculus well enough to help with the homework?

Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (sxq57)

225 Kahn Academy...
Posted by: Judge Smails

KAAAAAAAAAHHHHN!!!

Posted by: James T. Kirk, The Final Frontier BS at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (vcOmj)

226 Oh nom nom nom. And the cookie looks tasty too

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (T9Hmo)

227 Mesa has suspended recycling due to the virus, so both cans go to the landfill. Amazing what is actually necessary when it all comes down to it. Recycling is just a tax like every other eco government program.
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (DjiZK)

We still have separate bins. I am going to follow the truck next time and see if they don't just circle the block and pick up the second one.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (Ti+Tv)

228 does anyone actually believe China was actually recycling any of that crap?!?!

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (j9HX3)

229

Man Who Died Ingesting Fish Tank Cleaner Remembered as Intelligent, Levelheaded Engineer

She said she didn't think about chloroquine again until a few days
later, March 22, when Lenius confessed to her that he had hurt his leg
while riding his new dirt bike and might have to go see a doctor.

"I'd already stocked the house with groceries and extra dog food and
everything was set. We were ready to self-isolate," said Wanda. "He
didn't want to tell me that he got hurt bad because he knew I was upset.
I didn't want him to ride a motorcycle, he was 68 and I didn't want him
getting hurt."

Wanda Lenius said her husband was planning to schedule a
doctor's appointment to have his leg looked at and the couple worried he
might pick up coronavirus at the clinic. That's when, she said, she
reached for the fish tank cleaner in her pantry.

Yes. She was a nut case

Posted by: SMOD at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (3aI0K)

230 What I noticed becoming more prevalent over the
years was the sheer amount of time teachers had to spend simply getting
their classes quiet and focused enough to teach them anything.

I do not remember this being a problem when I was in elementary
school. You would have the one "Klass Klown" or odd kid acting out, but
everyone else behaved themselves.

Posted by: Sal at April 24, 2020
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We were terrified of our teachers and the dreaded "detention," a word I learned in third grade. And even more terrified that the teacher would "send a note home" to our parents.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (rpbg1)

231 Well it's official. Grandbaby #7 coming in December!

Posted by: IP at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (CTv2h)

A good month for birthdays.

Congrats.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (Zz0t1)

232 Diogenes, how is the math going?

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (/669Q)

233 How many high school math teachers do you think can even understand calculus well enough to help with the homework?

I mean, we're dealing with teachers who chose the field of study "education". Not math, not a science. Nope. Education. The dumbest folks on a college campus.

Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (sxq57)

234 Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+

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Now they're digging with backhoes!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

235 224 Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.

How many high school math teachers do you think can even understand calculus well enough to help with the homework?
Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (sxq57

To repeat, calculus is not normally taught in high school. It is an AP("college level") course, taken only by a very small portion of the student body.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (Zm+LZ)

236
Richard Todd is the guy.

"Hold til relieved..."

- - The Longest Day

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (s2VJv)

237 I bet most 6th grade and under families would do just as well to buy a challenging puzzle or Lego set and work on it a couple of hours each day before going on a hike.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (41rs/)

238 Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing
what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.

Protest properly aimed. "I'm just doing my job" is no longer an excuse. It's not like the guy was drafted into the police. He wanted to do exactly that kind of business.

It's literally what he signed up for.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (bZwzw)

239 234 Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+

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Now they're digging with backhoes!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (+y/Ru)

Backhoe = homo hooker?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (s2VJv)

240 Thanks grammie, it's still way early yet but the mom (stepdaughter) is so excited she couldn't wait.

Posted by: IP at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (CTv2h)

241 We're not doing it to be obstinate or contrarian, either. Just to address the whole "matter is neither created or destroyed" lesson that is always looked over in tree hugging causes.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (41rs/)
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Teach's still gonna hate you

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (hYcqw)

242 225 Kahn Academy...
Posted by: Judge Smails

KAAAAAAAAAHHHHN!!!
Posted by: James T. Kirk, The Final Frontier BS at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (vcOmj)

I should have known that was coming.

(((hat tip)))

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (gD6Ka)

243 >>Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.

99% of Policing is voluntary.

They deserve a hell of a lot more than protesting.

I'd refuse service to anyone in uniform in that town and explain to them that it was these guys who were responsible for their loss of privilege.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (ae/De)

244 I think the only valid argument against homeschooling is that teaching talent is not evenly distributed. Some people are just better at it then others.

Some homeschoolers have shared their stories here. They often form consortia and homeschool five kids from different families. One Dad will teach history, one Mom will teach math, and everyone leans on their area of expertise.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (gd9RK)

245 I am 18 years old again. Need $, job haicut beer.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (GLaQb)

246 I was told there'd be no mathamatics!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (+y/Ru)

247 1984 version.

Ba da chi.

The one with John Hurt.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:35 AM (LvTSG)

You should track down the 1956 British version with Edmond O'Brien and Michael Redgrave. It's surprisingly good.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (m8d3m)

248 A bunch of people protesting that Mom's arrest showed up at the cops house. He had 4 uniformed police there to protect his precious little cowardly behind.

Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

------

This. Im totally against the Cancel/Dox craze sweeping the nation. Leave peoples homes out of it. Period.

You want to protest .... go to City Hall.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (nw6Hr)

249 I had an English teacher named Ms. Fukino. It was in Hawaii, but still, what an unfortunate name for a teacher.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (+0AKE)

250 What I noticed becoming more prevalent over the
years was the sheer amount of time teachers had to spend simply getting
their classes quiet and focused enough to teach them anything.

-

Yeah, it's almost like removing any real punishment taught the kids that they weren't going to face any real punishment.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (41rs/)

251 Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.

No. You make the underlings afraid of doing the wrong thing.

Sure you can *also* go after his boss, but no, the underlings need to understand that "just following orders" gets them the rope, just the same as the one issuing the orders.

Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (sxq57)

252 130
True dat. 50% of the population is already not invited. Maybe they'll offer free valet service for the Subarus at the theaters.
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:28 AM

Not QUITE 50%, you basement-dwelling sexist incel troll!

Posted by: Captain Save-a-Hoe, White Knighting Simp at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (Of/Uk)

253 242 225 Kahn Academy...
Posted by: Judge Smails

KAAAAAAAAAHHHHN!!!
Posted by: James T. Kirk, The Final Frontier BS at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (vcOmj)

I should have known that was coming.

(((hat tip)))
Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (gD6Ka)

Watch your kids if they use that. Don't want them to become genius psychopaths that try to take over the universe.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (Ti+Tv)

254

I quipped earlier at the end of the Morning thread that, for years we've all bitched and moaned that the Leftists have plenty of time to protest because none of them work for a living.

Well, here we are. 26,000,000 strong...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (s2VJv)

255 To repeat, calculus is not normally taught in high school. It is an AP("college level") course, taken only by a very small portion of the student body.
Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:41 AM (Zm+LZ)
++++++++++++
I don't know about other places, but our local community college here would accept homeschool students while they were still in school. They had to test in, but if they did they could attend individual courses pretty cheaply to augment the homeschooling curriculum. This was primarily for things like Calculus or courses that required significant equipment like metal or wood shop.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (hYcqw)

256 https://tinyurl.com/ybddco3h

California sixth grade reader from 1914. Jerry Pournelle got it back in print.

Posted by: notsothoreau at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (JKNZq)

257 Backhoe = homo hooker?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (s2VJv)

Don Lemon is backhoe!

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (m8d3m)

258 It's Linda Evans' mom!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (Ndje9)

259 251 Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.

No. You make the underlings afraid of doing the wrong thing.

Sure you can *also* go after his boss, but no, the underlings need to understand that "just following orders" gets them the rope, just the same as the one issuing the orders.
Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (sxq57)

Please to read my book...

Posted by: Alex Solzhenitsyn at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (gD6Ka)

260 does anyone actually believe China was actually recycling any of that crap?!?!

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It was confirmed in numerous news articles that they were just piling up the "recyclables" into enormous trash mountains and burning it.

We paid them to do it, too.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (41rs/)

261 251
No. You make the underlings afraid of doing the wrong thing.

Sure you can *also* go after his boss, but no, the underlings need to understand that "just following orders" gets them the rope, just the same as the one issuing the orders.
Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:43 AM (sxq57)

I believe Solzhenitsyn touched on this. Practically you can't reach the bosses. But if every jack-booted thug fears for his life breaking in the door, well things change a bit.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (Zm+LZ)

262 ...meaning, the Police choose who they want to when enforcing the Law.

They are given too much leeway in this sort of thing and they tend to pick and choose those who they believe can afford to pay the fines they dole out.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (ae/De)

263 Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+

Disney Execs: So where are we on this Star Wars thing?
Producers: Well the Star Wars thing isn't working out like we planned.
Disney Execs: What proactive methods are you using to leverage this into a net positive?
Producers: We studied what went wrong in the previous films and did surveys, demographics studies, and bought data from social media.
Disney Execs: very forward thinking and bleeding edge thinking outside the box. What did we learn?
Producers: Well after factoring right wing bias and he/him-think out of the data, we found a pure, accurate read.
Disney Execs: Excellent, we don't need reikkkh wing influence ruining data.
Producers: It turns out that we didn't make the films female-focused enough, not enough women.
Disney Execs: I like where you're going here.
Producers: So we need to do Star Wars films with stronger women in more dominant roles, and fewer males, in submissive, wrongthink roles showing how their penis culture ruins everything.
Disney Execs: GENIUS!
Walt Disney: just thaw out my head and throw it away, I don't want to come back

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (KZzsI)

264 Well, here we are. 26,000,000 strong...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (s2VJv)

...and yet we still struggle to hit 1000 comments in these threads.

Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (Ti+Tv)

265 Its almost as if training your children to be disruptive, selfish, spoiled trash is tough to be around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM (KZzsI)

The grands lived around the corner from us. People would say "Oh, it must be so fun for you to have them nearby to spoil."

"Why would I want to make my daughter's job harder?"

Posted by: Sal at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (bo8pf)

266 Watch your kids if they use that. Don't want them to become genius psychopaths that try to take over the universe.

Theirs is the superior intellect.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (iSh8b)

267 257 Backhoe = homo hooker?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (s2VJv)

Don Lemon is backhoe!
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (m8d3m)

Nah. Lemon is just a small, bitter fruit.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (s2VJv)

268 254

I quipped earlier at the end of the Morning thread that, for years we've all bitched and moaned that the Leftists have plenty of time to protest because none of them work for a living.

Well, here we are. 26,000,000 strong...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (s2VJv)

Gives new meaning to the word " Horde".

Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (90T4r)

269 In was also in The Longest Day portraying a Major John Howard who also parachuted into Normandy on D-Day. "Hold until relieved."
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (UUv9T)

Yes, and was in A Man Called Peter, and The Hasty Heart with Pres. Reagan

Posted by: CN at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (ONvIw)

270 Sanctified Elites were saying about homeschooling 20-30 years ago, back when problems with public school systems were becoming so obvious that the number of parents pulling their children out grew large enough to attract public attention.

It goes back further than that. The whole "Modern Education" movement (Dewey, Mann, et al) from the turn of the last century was designed to put every child into a public school seat. In part, to turn them into nice little WASPS, especially those Papist irish and Italian kids.

See Pierce vs. Society of Sisters.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (33O8j)

271 264 Well, here we are. 26,000,000 strong...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (s2VJv)

...and yet we still struggle to hit 1000 comments in these threads.
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (Ti+Tv)

Okay, I laughed at that!

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (s2VJv)

272 Watch your kids if they use that. Don't want them to become genius psychopaths that try to take over the universe.

___________________

Or if they try to put something in your ear.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (+0AKE)

273 quipped earlier at the end of the Morning thread that, for years we've all bitched and moaned that the Leftists have plenty of time to protest because none of them work for a living.

Well, here we are. 26,000,000 strong...

-

Set it up.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (41rs/)

274 Love the hooker haircut meme, just sent it to my hairdresser
Posted by: redridinghood at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (wiXsO)

"By the way, Mister, it's a Ferrari, not a Porch."

Posted by: Just the punchline at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (miJU3)

275 I think it started with Sisters of Mercy. Kid is a strong willed individual.
--------------------
How did he turn out?

He's a work in progress. Struggling to finish college (Emerson) and mostly working at Trader Joes and ranting about how awful my politics are.

I was a fuckup at 23, too.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (gd9RK)

276 253 242 225 Kahn Academy...
Posted by: Judge Smails

KAAAAAAAAAHHHHN!!!
Posted by: James T. Kirk, The Final Frontier BS at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (vcOmj)

I should have known that was coming.

(((hat tip)))
Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (gD6Ka)

Watch your kids if they use that. Don't want them to become genius psychopaths that try to take over the universe.
Posted by: Roy at April 24, 2020 11:44 AM (Ti+Tv)

LOL

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (gD6Ka)

277 "Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest."

Ah, but yes. The Nuremberg defense.

Posted by: Pug Mahon (x8Wzq) , Masks are Useless at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (x8Wzq)

278 "public interest professor of law:
In my experience, any person or group using public interest to describe their work has an agenda for the public, not their interest (how would they know that?) and it's almost always a very leftist agenda.

Posted by: Ripley at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (MxEKc)

279 I don't know about other places, but our local community college here
would accept homeschool students while they were still in school.

Pretty cool. Out here in bumfuckistan, I don't detect a bias against homeschooling. Pretty universal comment is "good for them, looks like a lot of damn work, thank God we live in a good school district".

It's been tough enough getting my two through high school - and having to supply the occasional "supplement" on various History and Civics topics. My "Did you know" on Nelson Mandela and his lovely wife was a classic.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (bZwzw)

280 So judging by that cartoon, the primary benefits of a public school education include kickball, jumprope tag and hide-n-seek. Do I have that right?

Posted by: Muldoon at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (Fc5rx)

281 The limited video-schooling makes sense if you understand that the school system largely exists as daycare for working stiffs.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (H5knJ)

282 "207 189>> That's true. And learning to teach yourself or find learning resources on your own is probably the single most important thing to learn.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:38 AM (+0AKE) "

This.

My parents taught me to read by 3, and I was able to educate myself when necessary.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (cqteU)

283 I believe Solzhenitsyn touched on this. Practically you can't reach the bosses. But if every jack-booted thug fears for his life breaking in the door, well things change a bit.

I haven't read his book (and I keep meaning to), but yes.

The enforcers of this crap need to be reminded that we're not trapped in here with them, they're trapped with us.

They live with us, their families live with us and they're all outnumbered, badly.

Posted by: GMan at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (sxq57)

284
What else?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (41rs/)

> Abuse of nature with filthy lefties hugging trees.
> Imminent takeover of Canada's Northwest Territory by a polar bear army taking advantage of the now permanent ice bridges to the shore.

But, seriously now -
> Bumped up energy costs at server farms to keep devices cool under increased load from greater net usage
> Continued exploitation of children and the poor in central Africa to mine cobalt ores for smart devices' technology
> Ditching disease-carrying non-recycleable tote bags for "one and done", but disease free, plastic bags
> Projected increases in deaths from starvation due to lockdown adversely impacting the food supply chain - growing, processing and distribution

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (pNxlR)

285 Sure you can *also* go after his boss, but no, the underlings need to understand that "just following orders" gets them the rope, just the same as the one issuing the orders.

Protesting doesn't scare anyone into changing behavior. Protesting is a political device, and only works if you use it against politicians.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (KZzsI)

286 Today's who dis has got a body. Not a VaVaVoom body but a body.

Now to read who she is....

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (ifmtJ)

287 I think the only valid argument against homeschooling is that teaching talent is not evenly distributed. Some people are just better at it then others.

This also goes for school teachers, but I've never heard it used against public schools.

Posted by: CN at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (ONvIw)

288 280 So judging by that cartoon, the primary benefits of a public school education include kickball, jumprope tag and hide-n-seek. Do I have that right?

lol if only! that would be way better than the actual primary benefits - SJW indoctrination, early sexualization, and obesity

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (j9HX3)

289 Harvard? Harvard...Isn't that where they take money from unemployed workers and let their Head Biology Professor work for the Wuhan Bat-Lab? That Harvard?

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (Ndje9)

290 Don't give up on him, Bander. I know you won't. At some point you are going to become unbelievably smart. And you will think hmmm, I haven't changed at all. And you will be right.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (/669Q)

291 Some homeschoolers have shared their stories here. They often form consortia and homeschool five kids from different families. One Dad will teach history, one Mom will teach math, and everyone leans on their area of expertise.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:42 AM (gd9RK)

So, in other words, some families got together and solved their own problems without the help of Elizabeth Bartholet and her band of busybodies?

The devil you say.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (m8d3m)

292 275 I think it started with Sisters of Mercy. Kid is a strong willed individual.
--------------------
How did he turn out?

He's a work in progress. Struggling to finish college (Emerson) and mostly working at Trader Joes and ranting about how awful my politics are.

I was a fuckup at 23, too.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:46 AM (gd9RK)

At 23, I was full-on Union, Socialist in thinking. But that was the pond I swam in.

Posted by: tubal at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (90T4r)

293 To repeat, calculus is not normally taught in high
school. It is an AP("college level") course, taken only by a very small
portion of the student body.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020
*
*
Then what was that "advanced math" course offered in my senior year, that I avoided like the coronavirus?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (rpbg1)

294 The Bartholet bitch looks a lot like Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: Cali Curmudgeon at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (XsgXy)

295 293 To repeat, calculus is not normally taught in high
school. It is an AP("college level") course, taken only by a very small
portion of the student body.

Posted by: Someguy at April 24, 2020
*
*
Then what was that "advanced math" course offered in my senior year, that I avoided like the coronavirus?
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (rpbg1)

==========

Retort:

You're old.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (LvTSG)

296 Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.

How many high school math teachers do you think can even understand calculus well enough to help with the homework?
Posted by: GMan

High school calculus is pretty simple. I took a lot of calculus in college, and that was a little harder.

High school teachers major in education, not in math. Some times you get lucky and actually get a teacher that does know math in public schools.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (vcOmj)

297 I am simply amazed that someone spawned with Bandersnatch?

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (ae/De)

298 Trump never suggested anybody inject themselves with anything.

He did, however, ask about this UV light catheter ("Healight") that is being tested at Cedars-Sinai:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8uf3w32

But how dare Trump be keeping himself informed about all the latest developments in possible pandemic medical technology, right? Who does he think he is anyway, the president or something?
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 24, 2020 07:56 AM (k4dH2

^THIS^

Posted by: Some Guy in Wisconsin at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (tME7d)

299 I am now officially wagering $100 that a left-wing activist will today pull a "fish-tank cleaner"-style stunt, and swallow Lysol.

I guarantee that some leftist will dial "9-1..." then sip one drop of Lysol, then finish dialing "...-1", then go to the hospital where all his friends in the media will be waiting to blame it in Trump. Just watch.

Anyone willing to take my bet? Of course not. Because we all know I'm right.

Posted by: zombie at April 24, 2020 11:50 AM (N9G0H)

300

Homeschooling for the first few years is a blessing. THe kids become YOUR kids, not some smartass state-sponsored cog. They can and do figure out their own personality in high school, but without the trauma of watching hours of hard-core porn before the age of 10 from shitlord "friends"

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 11:50 AM (SFOr6)

301
280 So judging by that cartoon, the primary benefits of a public school education include kickball, jumprope tag and hide-n-seek. Do I have that right?
Posted by: Muldoon

Pretty much, but they've kept learning to roll condoms over bananas and celebrating 57 genders out of sight behind the house.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:50 AM (pNxlR)

302 294 The Bartholet bitch looks a lot like Elizabeth Warren.
Posted by: Cali Curmudgeon at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (XsgXy)

Karens...

Pod Karens...

They're already here!

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:50 AM (gD6Ka)

303 Most of the recycle can is cardoard and paper.

That stuff is not going to go to CHI nah anymore.

We need waste to energy incinerators.

Posted by: torabora at April 24, 2020 11:50 AM (Y274z)

304 155 I feel for poor kids, I really do. If you're a minority child in a city school, it's almost certain that your teachers and administrators are awful. OTOH, if you are homeschooled, your parents are likely to be not as well educated, possibly working multiple jobs, and might not value education as much as the white UMC. These are generalizations, of course, but there is truth to them. You're screwed either way.
Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:32 AM (T6t7i)

Still, empathy is nice BUT don't remove ones accountability. Ben Carson's mom had minimal education and worked a lot, she still CARED bout and encouraged her child to succeed.

Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Xt7n2)

305 This.

My parents taught me to read by 3, and I was able to educate myself when necessary.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 24, 2020 11:47 AM (cqteU)
++++++++++++++
My parents had an encyclopedia. When I asked my dad a question, his default answer (unless it didn't apply, of course) was, "look it up!"

Off to the encyclopedia I'd go. If I had more questions, he'd answer them but the first step was always "look it up."

He taught me how to read using the encyclopedia. My brother taught me most of the letters, but he sat down with me one evening and made me laboriously read through the copyright page of the "A" volume. Then the "B" volume. Then the "C" volume. In the midst of the "D" volume, I turned to him and said, "Dad, these all say the same thing."

He responded, "Good. That means you're getting it."

Then he gave me Dr. Seuss. I think I was 3 or 4. It was a helluva way to learn to read and I am sure it violates every modern teaching principle, but it was incredibly effective.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (hYcqw)

306 296
Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.

How many high school math teachers do you think can even understand calculus well enough to help with the homework?

Posted by: GMan

High school calculus is pretty simple. I took a lot of calculus in college, and that was a little harder.

High school teachers major in education, not in math. Some times you
get lucky and actually get a teacher that does know math in public
schools.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (vcOmj)

Which is why you now have them teaching "2 + 2 = 5" because you "tried hard".

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (N39Ws)

307 High school teachers major in education, not in math. Some times you get lucky and actually get a teacher that does know math in public schools.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (vcOmj)
------------

Actually that changed in Virginia a while ago. You have to have a real major like math or English or whatever, then stay an extra year to get a teaching certificate. So they come out of school after five years with a Masters.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (/669Q)

308 This professor actually believes home-schooled children never get outside the house?
Odd.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Uu+Jp)

309
the public schools are not about "educating children"

it's a government jobs program for adults, and nothing more

Posted by: AltonJackson at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Wdn2e)

310 Oh, My G_D if you homeschool your kids They might never get to go outside, and might read the Bible!!!
. Yes, indeed ,Harvard is selling me on not ever homeschooling; The kids might not get Mao's "Little Red Book" , Howard Zinn's "History of the American People" or something by Richard Dawkins if they were homeschooled. SHUDDER!

Posted by: Mary Cloggenstein's sister at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (bW1Yb)

311 "She clearly believes that the state is the fount of rights, and the state doles them out to its subjects."

and the responsibility to "care for others" (welfare) is enforced by the state (taxes, coercive busing types of racial quotas in hiring and housing and lending). They concentrate on the "saving the child" side, not the forced taking from the low wage worker, for the permanent unemployed class (which is often the black market class, drugs, gambling, theft -- various destructive mob/gang activities)

The spirit cookers and child molesters dehumanize the children, dehumanize the Christian Nation in general. They are not neutral on religion, they consider it their enemy.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Cus5s)

312 We used to play "Smear the Queer" at recess. I'm thinking that game has been retired.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (+0AKE)

313 Today parents can teach calculus by just googling up any number of tutorials on the internet.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (EV+4+)

314 Since I'm trapped in the office today (and everyday, while everyone else gets to work from home), all alone with only the HR director sitting up here, I can hear him quipping and laughing on the phone with one of his asshole lib friends.

Of course, it's all about Trump and injecting disinfectant. Of course, totally unaware of the cath UV treatment being developed, totally unaware of the actual context of the conversation.

These people think they are so smart and so well informed, when they aren't. My nerves can't take much more.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (vg8iE)

315 So after watching the vid of the Mom getting arrested I called the Idaho Gov's office and asked if he supported the arrest and his staff said he hadn't made any public statements and would I like him to pass on a message to the Gov's communications. Hell yes, I said. Why aren't more people calling these public servant offices and demanding answers and accountability. I also emailed President Trump and asked him to Lift the Economic Lockdown.

Posted by: soumistubborn at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (mTmVR)

316 No. You make the underlings afraid of doing the wrong thing.

Sure you can *also* go after his boss, but no, the underlings need to understand that "just following orders" gets them the rope, just the same as the one issuing the orders.
Posted by: GMan

Didn't work at Nuremberg. Ain't gonna work here.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (rGtm/)

317
You should track down the 1956 British version with Edmond O'Brien and Michael Redgrave. It's surprisingly good.
Posted by: OregonMuse

I found this Studio One TV version from 1953 on a free Roku channel. Oliver Wendell Douglas as Winston Smith.

www.imdb.com/title/tt0712166

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (aKsyK)

318 Sanctified Elites were saying about homeschooling
20-30 years ago, back when problems with public school systems were
becoming so obvious that the number of parents pulling their children
out grew large enough to attract public attention.

It goes back further than that. The whole "Modern Education"
movement (Dewey, Mann, et al) from the turn of the last century was
designed to put every child into a public school seat. In part, to turn
them into nice little WASPS, especially those Papist irish and Italian
kids.

See Pierce vs. Society of Sisters.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 24, 2020
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My parents kept me home an extra year, not because I was sick or anything, but because they thought they could teach me more than I'd learn in the traditional first grade. They were right; I already knew how to read when I started at age 7.
I wonder how they managed to keep the truant officers (I think they had those then) or other "authorities" from coming to the house and dragging me off to school.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (rpbg1)

319 >>We need waste to energy incinerators.

Soylent Green Energy

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (ae/De)

320 They put Public Enemy Playground Mom behind monkey bars where she belongs.

"Or millions will die(tm)".

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (Ndje9)

321 Still, empathy is nice BUT don't remove ones
accountability. Ben Carson's mom had minimal education and worked a lot,
she still CARED bout and encouraged her child to succeed.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Xt7n2)

I was born poor. Mom and Dad never told me once I had to stay poor. So I didn't. Didn't get the best education - but I got one good enough to improve my lot.

You are exactly right. Thank you for saying it.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (bZwzw)

322 The main thing I tried to teach my kids:

You are responsible for your own education. Parents, teachers, whatever, may help. You do the learning.

We didn't have sit-down study classes and times. We read together. We talked. Learning was all the time as a lifestyle.

We were having lunch out somewhere, Milady, me, our three kids and their troubled cousin who was briefly with us. Something in the news about trouble in the Middle East led to a discussion of the whole arc of Israel and the travails of the Jews. Our kids absorbed and discussed. Troubled cousin's contribution: "I need to do my nails."

It's a state of mind.

Posted by: mindful webworker
radically inclined webworks
at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (G0qhR)

323 Disney Execs: I like where you're going here.
Producers: So we need to do Star Wars films with stronger women in more dominant roles, and fewer males, in submissive, wrongthink roles showing how their penis culture ruins everything.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:45 AM (KZzs

Because smashing the patriarchy is TIGHT.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (m8d3m)

324 What else?
Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 11:29 AM (41rs/)

That the founder of Earth Day, Ira Einhorn, was a murderer who killed his girlfriend, and stuffed her body into a trunk, left it in a closet, and fucked off to France? And that he chose Lenin's birthday for a reason?

Posted by: Just the punchline at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (miJU3)

325 she still CARED bout and encouraged her child to succeed.
Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Xt7n2)
~~~~~

Children.

One became a brain surgeon, and the other a rocket scientist.

Posted by: IrishEi at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (sGotD)

326 To repeat, calculus is not normally taught in high school. It is an AP("college level") course, taken only by a very small portion of the student body.

The track is usually Alg 1, Geometry, Aleg 2 Trig, PreCalc or Math 4 for those who won't ever be taking Calc. However, a lot of schools are teaching Alg 1 in 8th grade. If you pass the Alg 1 placement test at 80%, you go straight into Alg2-trig, then take geometry, then precalc, the calculus in high school.
Back in the day, I took it but started over fresh in college because it's not the same level, even AP calc. And even though I'd already taken it, I dropped it at Duke and took it at NC state because WAY WAY easier. Then took Calc 2 at NC state the next summer because...fool me once.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 24, 2020 11:54 AM (nRWPy)

327 The one thing the left should like about Homeschooling is that all the bathrooms are unisex.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 11:54 AM (EV+4+)

328 305
Then he gave me Dr. Seuss. I think I was 3 or 4. It
was a helluva way to learn to read and I am sure it violates every
modern teaching principle, but it was incredibly effective.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (hYcqw)

Loved Dr. Seuss. Taught my daughter to read by 3 and she was consistently 2+ grades above her peers. One thing I credit to that is reading to her every night from the day she came home from the hospital. I did that even after working all day followed by night classes. She still has an insatiable need to read books.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2020 11:54 AM (N39Ws)

329 Because you can't out cheat a leftist.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:15 AM (+0AKE)

If you possess the most minute shred of a particle of a smidgen of ethics, that is sufficient to prove the truth of your statement!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 24, 2020 11:54 AM (BiNEL)

330 I've committed to a feral beard for the duration of
the Wuhans. I'm not at David Letterman level yet, but I think I've
passed Mandy Patinkin.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 24, 2020 11:19 AM
You're not there until you get to Randy Quaid level.

Posted by: Bert G, From an Undisclosed Location at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (fIDYQ)

331 296 Maybe, but how many parent's do you think remember high school Calculus well enough to even help with the homework.

How many high school math teachers do you think can even understand calculus well enough to help with the homework?
Posted by: GMan

High school calculus is pretty simple. I took a lot of calculus in college, and that was a little harder.

High school teachers major in education, not in math. Some times you get lucky and actually get a teacher that does know math in public schools.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at April 24, 2020 11:49 AM (vcOmj)

Then again, you can end up with a NASA engineer for a teacher who was too smart for the classroom level.

He was obviously brilliant, but didn't have the skills to "teach".

There's a balance between the two skills...probably 60/40 math to teaching.

The issue today is that that ratio is more likely 0/100.

Posted by: Judge Smails at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (gD6Ka)

332 Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (hYcqw)

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Pretty sure I learned more in grade school from World Book than I did from my teachers.

I HATED grade school. Jr High was somewhat better. I actually enjoyed High School.

I was what you would call a "difficult" student. Especially to the teachers that were mailing it in.

Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (nw6Hr)

333

Comment on Instrapundit:

Constitution First

I was cured by Prednisone (powerful anti-inflammatory), Doxycline
Beta-Lac-tam (Antibiotics) and an Albuteral nebulizer. I was one
of the high risk people; old, history of breathing problems and a CPAP
user.

I picked up the bug around Christmas. It was only months later when
reviewing the films did the docs say "you had corona long before people
even knew it was in town" I got it from my sister, who picked it up
second week of December (she is in the travel industry) So the bug has
been here a long time kids. The horse is long out of the barn. Keeping
lock down going at this stage of the infection is political and
pointless.

Posted by: SMOD at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (3aI0K)

334 108 The idea that kids belong to the "community" and not their parents seems to be gaining steam on the left. They really aren't even trying to hide their inner commie any longer.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 24, 2020 11:18 AM (ZLI7S)
That's a good point right there.
Posted by: runner at April 24, 2020 11:24 AM (zr5Kq)

HITLER YOUTH! HITLER YOUTH!

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (trdmm)

335 One became a brain surgeon, and the other a rocket scientist.
Posted by: IrishEi at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (sGotD)

Sounds to me like Miss Carson was pretty damned smart - educated or not. Dumb asses don't raise brain surgeons and rocket scientists.

Posted by: Reality Bites Hard at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (bZwzw)

336 Almost all of the concerns about home schooling are negated by simply looking at the kind and quality of education that public schools are giving kids. Even a BAD home schooling job is better than what they're getting from the government. At the very least its not the indoctrination machine to progressivism.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (KZzsI)

337 312
We used to play "Smear the Queer" at recess. I'm thinking that game has been retired.

It was renamed. It's now Eliminate the Straight.

Posted by: pep at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (T6t7i)

338

And as for outside time, the kids were outside more during homeschooling (and I mean going to various gyms, classes, and rec facilities) than when in school. If anything, they got far, far less activity and outside time in public school than in homeschool.

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 11:55 AM (SFOr6)

339 Today parents can teach calculus by just googling up any number of tutorials on the internet.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here

It isn't quite that easy. You have to actually understood the principles to be able to teach it.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at April 24, 2020 11:56 AM (vcOmj)

340 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 24, 2020 11:56 AM (arJlL)

341 My parents had an encyclopedia. When I asked my dad a question, his default answer (unless it didn't apply, of course) was, "look it up!"

Off to the encyclopedia I'd go. If I had more questions, he'd answer them but the first step was always "look it up."

He taught me how to read using the encyclopedia. My brother taught me most of the letters, but he sat down with me one evening and made me laboriously read through the copyright page of the "A" volume. Then the "B" volume. Then the "C" volume. In the midst of the "D" volume, I turned to him and said, "Dad, these all say the same thing."

He responded, "Good. That means you're getting it."

Then he gave me Dr. Seuss. I think I was 3 or 4. It was a helluva way to learn to read and I am sure it violates every modern teaching principle, but it was incredibly effective.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

A lot of you people never got in trouble in school and didn't have to hand copy the letter section "O" in the dictionary. And it shows!

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 11:56 AM (rGtm/)

342 I went to a small high school. My graduating class only had 99 people in it. 104 if you count the pregnant girls.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 11:56 AM (+0AKE)

343 It isn't quite that easy. You have to actually understood the principles to be able to teach it.
=====

And only people as well-rounded, educated, and experienced as we are can teach it!

Posted by: Public School Teachers at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (vg8iE)

344 I don't know that our elites are 'afraid' of freedom; they don't know freedom well enough to be afraid of it. What they are afraid of is the responsibility that comes with freedom. When you are your own agent, when you exercise your individuality, you are responsible for the consequences. THAT'S what they are afraid of.

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (17+9D)

345 Loved Dr. Seuss. Taught my daughter to read by 3 and she was consistently 2+ grades above her peers. One thing I credit to that is reading to her every night from the day she came home from the hospital. I did that even after working all day followed by night classes. She still has an insatiable need to read books.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at April 24, 2020 11:54 AM (N39Ws)
+++++++++++++
My dad read aloud to us almost every day. We'd sit on the couch (my brother and I) and he'd read to us. Big stuff, usually fantasy series like The Lord of the Rings. This went on for years.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (hYcqw)

346 I suspect other things the school stalins hate is they can't push the commie crap while the kids are learning at home lest the parents actually see it.
Also I have grown a quarantine beard, shaving it Sunday.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (r+sAi)

347 The track is usually Alg 1, Geometry, Aleg 2 Trig, PreCalc or Math 4 for those who won't ever be taking Calc. However, a lot of schools are teaching Alg 1 in 8th grade. If you pass the Alg 1 placement test at 80%, you go straight into Alg2-trig, then take geometry, then precalc, the calculus in high school

this is how it does work - Dagny what I don't get is them doing Algebra II/trig like that before Geometry?!?! it seems like that just makes trig harder and trig is fun.

so what ends up happening is the top track kids struggle mightily freshman year with Algebra II/Trig, then take geometry as sophomores and breeze thru?!! odd but it helps with dealing with APUSH sophomore year and advanced Chem which are both inordinately hard at our school

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (j9HX3)

348 "I guarantee that some leftist will dial "9-1..." then sip one drop of
Lysol, then finish dialing "...-1", then go to the hospital where all
his friends in the media will be waiting to blame it in Trump. Just
watch."

maybe, but the incentive of killing off a spouse at the same time made the idea more attractive to the last crazy woman that pulled that stunt ... I don't think she coordinated with media though ... they just jumped on board quickly.

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (Cus5s)

349
294 The Bartholet bitch looks a lot like Elizabeth Warren.
Posted by: Cali Curmudgeon at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (XsgXy)

Harvard Law has preferred types? What a surprise!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (pNxlR)

350 "Funny how schools, which are overwhelmingly taught by women, are often a pleasure for the girls, and torture for the boys."

It was sure torture for me (a boy), and I would tend to agree with you. But I have 3 data points in the form of 3 daughters, and they also hate(d) school.

Posted by: Chris M at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (eAZVt)

351 When my dad was still alive, but crippled by diabetes and dialysis, i used to play "who dis" while we watched old westerns. 10 years later, I still look over to his recliner with a question on my lips when I visit my mom.

Posted by: Downcast at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (e/rj3)

352 They put Public Enemy Playground Mom behind monkey bars where she belongs.

"Or millions will die(tm)".

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (Ndje9)

And clearly, by taking these bold actions, we must have saved at least "one" life!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (BiNEL)

353 308 This professor actually believes home-schooled children never get outside the house?

Odd.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Uu+Jp)

You should peruse her paper that I linked to. It's absolutely infuriating, 80 pages of dishonest hackery and pig ignorant bullshit. I'd like to see her have to defend it before a hostile audience.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (m8d3m)

354 I could still read the chapter and help with high school calculus when son 2 was taking it in high school. But I had to read the chapter. So help = 2 hours later.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (nRWPy)

355 157 Serious question. If vote by mail encourages fraud, then why cant the Conservatives figure out how to conduct fraud also? In fact egregious fraud would destroy the results of an election and really damage the vote by mail idea with the libs.

Posted by: Actually Inside the Beltway at April 24, 2020 11:13 AM (fMhOl)

Because, progressives are seldom prosecuted for voting fraud, and if prosecuted, are seldom found guilty. If found guilty, sentance is no more than a slap on the wrist. Conservatives WILL be prosecuted, even by conservative DA's, to the full extent of the law. See campaign finance law violations and foreign representative law for examples.
Posted by: Agitator at April 24, 2020 11:33 AM (oEmr5)

On top of that, I don't think even WE know how outnumbered we are. My guess is 35-65, and when the 65s get to photocopy ballots, well (no need to finish sentence).

It's like Mt. Union playing Ohio State in football. Both are outstanding, but worlds apart

Posted by: Al Unsure at April 24, 2020 11:59 AM (Jib4S)

356 Is that "The Shat?"

Posted by: Unkaren at April 24, 2020 11:59 AM (vGJY7)

357 There's this bizarre myth in the left that home schooled kids never have any friends.

My friends in school were all from my neighborhood, anyway. I made friends with them OUTSIDE school for the most part.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:59 AM (KZzsI)

358 All my grandchildren are in private Christian schools at considerable financial sacrifice for their parents.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (Uu+Jp)

359 The Britannica was one of the best teachers going. Great essays on what most teachers/profs would ask from an undergrad. All you had to do was read it, condense it to an outline and spit it out on an exam. Then there was chemistry.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (ZB42Q)

360 Didn't work at Nuremberg. Ain't gonna work here.

Nuremberg was after the fact, and it *did* work. The guards that "were" just following orders were convicted just as readily as the others.

We actually can point to Nuremberg as the example of "just following orders" isn't a defense.

But that's besides a point. You make it painful enough for the enforcers to be bad actors, and eventually the bosses run out of people willing to be enforcers.

Posted by: Gman at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (GfWuY)

361 Apparently Disney still doesn't understand the Star Wars fandom and still has lots of money to set on fire

Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (qAR6u)

362 210 I'm just loving the exasperated cries of frustration from parents who never taught their children discipline or respect for anyone now having to deal with the results in their little darlings.

Its almost as if training your children to be disruptive, selfish, spoiled trash is tough to be around.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:39 AM

I am genuinely worried about a couple of children. They had low reading/writing levels to begin the year. Parents are white-collar professionals; they and their children have access to my online lessons, Kahn Academy, the state's virtual classroom, etc. Their response to the shutdown? "The kids are starting summer break early."

Oh, okay. So they're playing games all night, but at least they're dead asleep when you're WFH.

On the other hand, one of my neighbors is LOVING this. I've been lending classic children's books - Treasure Island, The Kitchen Madonna, etc. At our last exchange, she told me that the kids are doing great and starting a garden. Even her hubby noticed less crying and fighting. The reason is that his sister can't drop her brats off to eat their food and bully their kids.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (/+bwe)

363 353 308 This professor actually believes home-schooled children never get outside the house?

Odd.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 11:51 AM (Uu+Jp)

You should peruse her paper that I linked to. It's absolutely infuriating, 80 pages of dishonest hackery and ignorant bullshit. I'd like to see her have to defend it before a hostile audience.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (m8d3m)

They're almost never held accountable for their crap. They are writing to please their editors and the people who read the NYT, that's it.

And unless they cross their editor or Carlos Slim, they never get any pushback, let alone punishment.

Still....sunlight. First box and all that.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (ifmtJ)

364 You should peruse her paper that I linked to. It's absolutely infuriating, 80 pages of dishonest hackery and ignorant bullshit. I'd like to see her have to defend it before a hostile audience.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (m8d3m)
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Ooh! I volunteer. Along with my homeschool mom friends, some of whom used to be tenured professors before they had kids.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (/669Q)

365 I guess not!

Posted by: Unkaren at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (vGJY7)

366 Today parents can teach calculus by just googling up any number of tutorials on the internet.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here

It isn't quite that easy. You have to actually understood the principles to be able to teach it.
Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at April 24, 2020 11:56 AM (vcOmj)

As an old Indian used to say to me, Soh Toa Cah.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (EV+4+)

367 It's amazing what passes for an academic paper these days. Was it here that talked about the people that got a bunch of fake papers in the "Social Sciences" published a few years back with fake topics like dog rape at dog parks?

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 12:01 PM (+0AKE)

368 361 Apparently Disney still doesn't understand the Star Wars fandom and still has lots of money to set on fire
Posted by: kbdabear at April 24, 2020 12:00 PM (qAR6u)

Mandarins have always been isolated from peasants. We're just supposed to shove money in their faces.

They are in for a surprise...

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 24, 2020 12:01 PM (ifmtJ)

369 House Rules growing up.

1 hour of additional (non-school) reading equals 1/2 hour of Weekend TV Viewing.

We got to pick one show a week to watch for no more than an hour on school nights.
And about an hour of afterschool cartoonage, max.

Posted by: garrett at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (ae/De)

370 Was it Powerline that used to regularly feature mock worthy academic papers?

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

371 No calc in highschool work. I think it was AP like others said. I was bored out of my mind with algebra and geometry. I never did homework until the few minutes before class started. Always got 100s. Then going to college calc1, calc2, engineering weed-out. Then straight to diff-eq, numerical methods in fortran, linear algebra, etc.

It was quite the shock. Like learning to swim by being thrown in when my only earlier experience was drinking a single cup of water. Always on the edge of drowning - failing. While trying to hold a job to pay for it all.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (l6b3d)

372 Picking up the 7 & 8 year old grandkids yestrrday, and driving down the street sober, I said, hey we should go back and get your dogs too.
Really grandpa! They would love it!
Fuck no I'm not having no dogs!
Fuck you granpa bitch!
ok, no more cussing
merica

Posted by: Menack at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (buTO7)

373
What else?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
.........

Here's one that will really get 'em..

It is much more efficient to heat/cool a school for 1,000 kids and teachers than it is to heat a whole house times 1000.

If there is no one home all day - the usual case in today's families where both parents work - there can be little heating/cooling, no lights, etc..

This goes for the parent's workplace as well.

So, a shutdown put many thousands of people in their homes using much more energy.

minus the diving, of course.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (CjFDo)

374 Best part of that 'picture'?

The running jumping skip roping the outside kids are doing?

They can't be done at recess at most schools anymore.

And PE is a thing of the past.

So wrong even on that.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (NgKpN)

375 My surreal life - things that convince me that a teenager on crack is programming the world now...

so I'm driving along a street in town, and I see a bunch of cars stopped in the road, and some kind of commotion, so I drive up slow, and there's a tabby cat in the middle of the road with a dog food can stuck all the way over its head, and it's running in circles, and two Mexican women are running after it, shrieking. The more they shriek, the more it runs. At one point one of them managed to grab it and then she found out why you never grab a freaked out cat. (see Mark Twain on that one) And a little crowd is just watching the spectacle.

so I just said "ooooookaaayyyy" to myself and left. But I guess that's what we're doing here for public entertainment these days.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (trdmm)

376
this is how it does work - Dagny what I don't
get is them doing Algebra II/trig like that before Geometry?!?! it seems
like that just makes trig harder and trig is fun.

so what ends up happening is the top track kids struggle mightily
freshman year with Algebra II/Trig, then take geometry as sophomores and
breeze thru?!! odd but it helps with dealing with APUSH sophomore year
and advanced Chem which are both inordinately hard at our school

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020
*
*
I'd had Algebra I in 9th grade, geometry (the only math I ever enjoyed, for its logic and problem-solving) in 10th, and Algebra II in 11th. From what you say, the "advanced math" I skipped in senior year must have been trig (though we'd had some in geometry) and some pre-calculus.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (rpbg1)

377 NaughtyPine, I salute you and the other good teachers who are doing their very best and then meeting resistance from the parents. It's got to be infuriating.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (/669Q)

378 Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

He is a jackass for obeying an illegal order. He could have ignored the moms in the park.

Posted by: Just the punchline at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (miJU3)

379

There's this bizarre myth in the left that home schooled kids never have any friends.

My friends in school were all from my neighborhood, anyway. I made friends with them OUTSIDE school for the most part.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

After homeschooling kids for 8 years and being in various homeschool groups, the one thing I will admit is a valid criticism is that lots (LOTS) of homeschool kids are awkward.

But it's not homeschooling that did it. THese kids are by and large little sperg-lords from the get-go, which is why they ended up being homeschooled. Normal kids being homeschooled lose out on some of the finer points of social cues and clique making, but not is a way that is harmful long term (outside of a political career).

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (SFOr6)

380 That the founder of Earth Day, Ira Einhorn, was a murderer who killed his girlfriend, and stuffed her body into a trunk, left it in a closet, and fucked off to France?
Posted by: Just the punchline at April 24, 2020 11:53 AM (miJU3)

Oh, and there is evidence that the girlfriend was still alive when she was stuffed into the trunk. I once read something about how they found scratch marks on the inside of the lid.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (m8d3m)

381 I noticed that the academic paper aisle was still bare at Wallyworld the other day.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (o2MD2)

382 Apparently Disney still doesn't understand the Star Wars fandom and still has lots of money to set on fire

There's not a lot of Star Wars fandom left. They gutted most of it, and the most popular show is more a western/samurai story than a Star Wars one.

Its not that a grrl's Star Wars film has to suck, its that everything they put out sucks except for one product put out by a non Disney type (psst probably conservative). I wouldn't mind a really smart, fun all-girl or girl-centric Star Wars film. If its well written and well made I don't care the gender of the characters, as long as they aren't being swapped for just woke purposes (in this version, Lando is a girl!).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

383 When I was in early primary school we didn't have a television for a while so I did a lot of reading, which I loved.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (Uu+Jp)

384 I remember the point when I couldn't help my eldest with calculus anymore. I still remembered the useful parts of calculus, but there's a lot of weird stuff too. I had taught her algebra way back in 1st grade, and she ended up acing the ACT. I like to think that I at least helped on the math a little!

Posted by: Chris M at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (eAZVt)

385 Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (CjFDo)

Do people really turn down the heat when they go to work?

I don't know of anyone who did.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (NgKpN)

386 351 When my dad was still alive, but crippled by diabetes and dialysis, i used to play "who dis" while we watched old westerns. 10 years later, I still look over to his recliner with a question on my lips when I visit my mom.
Posted by: Downcast at April 24, 2020 11:58 AM (e/rj3)

Nice family memory.

Posted by: m at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (wI2mw)

387 Didn't work at Nuremberg. Ain't gonna work here.

Nuremberg was after the fact, and it *did* work. The guards that "were" just following orders were convicted just as readily as the others.

Posted by: Gman

That was my point. They tried to use the "just following orders" line and it didn't work for them.

So I ain't buying the just following orders from anyone else. Especially anyone that isn't under a military jurisdiction.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (rGtm/)

388 this is how it does work - Dagny what I don't get is them doing Algebra II/trig like that before Geometry?!?! it seems like that just makes trig harder and trig is fun.

so what ends up happening is the top track kids struggle mightily freshman year with Algebra II/Trig, then take geometry as sophomores and breeze thru?!! odd but it helps with dealing with APUSH sophomore year and advanced Chem which are both inordinately hard at our school

Geom and Alg are different parts of the brain, so I'm told. They say that 10th grade needs to be reached for most people to get the spatial reasoning for geometry. My youngest aced the placement test, breezed through alg2 trig honors and has a B in honors geometry which he finds harder....I don't get that, but says "it's not math-math." So he's struggling with what I think is the easiest and not the other. Idk

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 24, 2020 12:05 PM (nRWPy)

389 much more efficient to heat/cool a school for 1,000 kids and teachers than it is to heat a whole house times 1000.

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Good thinking. Thanks.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 12:05 PM (41rs/)

390 But it's not homeschooling that did it. These kids are by and large little sperg-lords from the get-go, which is why they ended up being homeschooled.

Yeah, the data is skewed heavily. But even if it does make socially awkward kids, that's hardly a significant issue. People learn to interact pretty quickly, and how well you socialize is unbelievably low on my list of life skills and priorities.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:05 PM (KZzsI)

391 Nuremberg is proof that if you win a war decisively and impose an unconditional surrender you can also impose whatever justice you want on the defeated. I don't give two shits about those convicted at Nuremberg, but it isn't a precedent for much.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 24, 2020 12:06 PM (H5knJ)

392 Backhoe = homo hooker?

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Don't hurt me! Don't hurt me! But I've been watching World On Fire on PBS' Masterpiece Theater and I like it. It's about a number of people in various European countries who get caught up in the outbreak of WWII. (I'm a sucker for 40's music, fashion etc.). Anyway, of course, one of the major characters is an American doctor in Paris who explores his homosexuality with a French black jazz saxophonist. I'd be exaggerating to say it was explicit but it's far graphic than I care for (which would be none at all).

It's a little soap opery, but generally accurate. For example, in one scene a journalist stumbles upon a German tank formation near the Polish border. They use reasonable facsimiles of Panzer Is and IIs rather than using Pattons disguised as Tigers. I'm a little annoyed that they use electric basses rather than stand up basses for the music scenes.

Also, the journalist mentioned above is portrayed by Helen Hunt who I used to think was cute but time is a cruel mistress.

Trailer below.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe1URnfKv0

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 24, 2020 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)

393 That was my point. They tried to use the "just following orders" line and it didn't work for them.

So I ain't buying the just following orders from anyone else. Especially anyone that isn't under a military jurisdiction.

My bad.
I thought you were saying that they *could* use the "just following orders defense."

Yes. I mean, I understand the cancel/doxxing culture is evil, but in this case it's an appropriate tool.

Posted by: Gman at April 24, 2020 12:06 PM (GfWuY)

394 A Star Wars serial killer story has never been tried. Nor a Star Wars Nursing Home Group Sex movie. There are tons of possibilities and new markets.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 12:06 PM (ZB42Q)

395 As a full time RVer (retired) I run across a lot of family's homeschooling their children. My observation is those kids learned outside when the weather cooperates and they work hard and play hard, are courteous and their parents seem to have less vices than the rest of us.

Posted by: Dempsy at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (HDCbD)

396 After homeschooling kids for 8 years and being in various homeschool groups, the one thing I will admit is a valid criticism is that lots (LOTS) of homeschool kids are awkward.

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Let me posit this.

I think they are awkward with other kids. I find that homeschool kids tend to be precocious and are more comfortable with adults. I think they react to public school kids with a an internalized degree of "whoa.... youre kind of an idiot".

Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (nw6Hr)

397 Do people really turn down the heat when they go to work?

I know a lot of people who did in the past, but they're all retired. My mom turns the heat down when she goes to bed, we do on some days.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (KZzsI)

398

Yeah, the data is skewed heavily. But even if it does make socially awkward kids, that's hardly a significant issue. People learn to interact pretty quickly, and how well you socialize is unbelievably low on my list of life skills and priorities.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

What helps is reminding the kid in the upper grades that these other kids you're around now will mean nothing at all in 10 years.

How many of the kids from my HS days do I interact with in real life?

Zero

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (SFOr6)

399 Do people really turn down the heat when they go to work?

I don't know of anyone who did.
Posted by: Romeo13

Programmable thermostat.

Posted by: rickb223 at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (rGtm/)

400 370 Was it Powerline that used to regularly feature mock worthy academic papers?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

I don't know, but there's a Twitter account I follow 'New Peer Review' that does this. You absolutely would not believe the bullshit that gets published. Actual peer-reviewed papers.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (m8d3m)

401 someone here mentioned their private school didn't miss a beat, and within a day or two, had set up the whole schooling online thing.

Trump needs to talk about such examples, let parents compare how the "professional and far superior" public schools have performed, in comparison. (public school teachers loving their extended paid vacations)

Posted by: illiniwek at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (Cus5s)

402 So I was looking for a replacement battery tray for my Holosun red dot sight, which seems to have fallen out when I took it shooting (it has a solar cell backup, so I didn't notice at the time).

I was going through my pile of red dot sight boxes and found....a complete, unused red dot sight.

So now I have an extra. I'm trying to decide what to with it. It's a pretty nice one with the Primary Arms ACSS reticle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 24, 2020 12:08 PM (ifmtJ)

403 I'd had Algebra I in 9th grade, geometry (the only math I ever enjoyed, for its logic and problem-solving) in 10th, and Algebra II in 11th. From what you say, the "advanced math" I skipped in senior year must have been trig (though we'd had some in geometry) and some pre-calculus.

it's just weird now. the younger one is better at math so in 8th had algebra I and ALSO geometry! so will go straight to precalc sophomore year (advanced precalc) then calc jr year then I don't know

the older one wasn't too good at math so took algebra I freshman year then did VERY well and moved up - so took two maths both sophomore and junior years to catch up for AP calc!!! very tough

I don't really understand the HS system now. I liked the old way - algebra just one year, then a year of geometry, then trig, then calc.

what was wrong with that?

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 12:08 PM (j9HX3)

404 Lots of lawn work (no converter on mowers), using boats, etc., and spring cleaning right now I bet.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - bad news. We're up to 0.0% COVID-19 deaths at April 24, 2020 12:08 PM (4yeC8)

405 It's amazing what passes for an academic paper these days. Was it here that talked about the people that got a bunch of fake papers in the "Social Sciences" published a few years back with fake topics like dog rape at dog parks?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe
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The ultimate example: The Sokal Affair https://preview.tinyurl.com/pgf8ybc

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 24, 2020 12:09 PM (830x5)

406 378 Yeah, he was a jackass, but he's not the one you protest. He was doing what he was ordered to by his boss and that person's boss That is who you protest.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 11:40 AM (KZzsI)

He is a jackass for obeying an illegal order. He could have ignored the moms in the park.
Posted by: Just the punchline at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM (miJU3)

She was not arrested for being in the park.

She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2020 12:09 PM (NgKpN)

407

Let me posit this.

I think they are awkward with other kids. I find that homeschool kids tend to be precocious and are more comfortable with adults. I think they react to public school kids with a an internalized degree of "whoa.... youre kind of an idiot".
Posted by: fixerupper

1000% correct. When the kids did eventually go to public school, they were given awards (no shit) by the teachers their first year.

They were engaged and intelligent, unlike the little tard-cogs produced by the prior 8 years of institutionalized schooling.

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 12:09 PM (SFOr6)

408 I don't know, but there's a Twitter account I follow 'New Peer Review' that does this. You absolutely would not believe the bullshit that gets published. Actual peer-reviewed papers.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (m8d3m)
++++++++++++
That Twitter feed is mandatory oppo research.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 12:09 PM (hYcqw)

409 370 Was it Powerline that used to regularly feature mock worthy academic papers?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

I recall there being a website, but I don't remember what its name is.

Posted by: m at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (wI2mw)

410 I think they are awkward with other kids. I find that homeschool kids tend to be precocious and are more comfortable with adults. I think they react to public school kids with a an internalized degree of "whoa.... youre kind of an idiot".

That's my sense and observation as well. They're not hooked into the latest slang, pop trends, music, etc but they are better able to deal with people of all ages, old and young.

Nuremberg is proof that if you win a war decisively and impose an unconditional surrender you can also impose whatever justice you want on the defeated. I don't give two shits about those convicted at Nuremberg, but it isn't a precedent for much.

Yeah if it hadn't been Nazis who did the ghastly stuff they did, the entire process would have been really wrong and unjust. They had literally zero legal or governmental authority to try and convict people for war crimes, just a lot of moral authority. It was a very dangerous precedent that thankfully has not been used again since.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

411 Trailer below.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xqe1URnfKv0
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 24, 2020 12:06 PM (+y/Ru)

Sounds interesting, but the homo subplot is a deal-breaker for me. The last thing I want to see on my TV is men kissing and humping each other.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (m8d3m)

412 Don't give up on him, Bander. I know you won't. At some point you are going to become unbelievably smart. And you will think hmmm, I haven't changed at all. And you will be right.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 11:48 AM (/669Q)

Agreed. My daughter, who also went through a Goth phase, did not move with us when my son and I moved halfway across the country. She seems to think she doesn't need to have contact with us, and since she's an "adult," she has that right.

I never closed any doors, and I never will, but it's going to be up to her whether she takes a step toward us in her life. I can't do that for her.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (hku12)

413 "Dagny what I don't get is them doing Algebra II/trig like that before Geometry?!?! it seems like that just makes trig harder and trig is fun."

I remember geometry being proofs, proofs, and more proofs. It was almost more about logic, than geometric shapes.

Posted by: Chris M at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (eAZVt)

414 She was not arrested for being in the park.

She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.

The order, "get out of the park" is complete bullshit, and the little tyrants ought to hire themselves a few things.
A) personal bodyguards.
B) a full time shoe shine guy. Those jackboots don't polish themselves.

Posted by: Gman at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (GfWuY)

415 The Star Wars franchise has gotten so lame that it's not even fun to make fun of it anymore. It's just endlessly boring and banal.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (trdmm)

416 Before the placement test, I took the kid up to my sister's cabin in WV with little cell reception or wifi, took the 300 question sample placement test and over memorial day weekend we BOTH answered the questions. I told him his goal was to out perform me or it would prove I was smarter. I also added monetary incentive. He got 1 question better, then we figured out what we missed.

Parents don't put enough effort in themselves, I don't think. My husband would have just had him review. My method is trouble for me, but works WAY better.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (nRWPy)

417 NOOD cucks

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (hYcqw)

418 Homeschooled kids are awkward in the same sense that we'd be awkward in a state penitentiary. Yes, if you surround us with feral, poorly educated ruffians, our "social" skills for the environment will be lacking. This is of course a tragedy if you were hoping your kid would fit in at spring break keggers.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (H5knJ)

419 Before the placement test, I took the kid up to my sister's cabin in WV with little cell reception or wifi, took the 300 question sample placement test and over memorial day weekend we BOTH answered the questions

that is really brilliant dagny! I wish I'd done that with my older kid

would have save a lot of tears later

Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (j9HX3)

420 397 Do people really turn down the heat when they go to work?

I know a lot of people who did in the past, but they're all retired. My mom turns the heat down when she goes to bed, we do on some days.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (KZzsI)

Yeah, heats programmed to a lower temp at night, always did that.

Just never crossed my mind to turn the heat down when I was at work.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (NgKpN)

421 HS math 1970 -1974 = Algebra, Geometry, Trigonometry, Precalculus

Posted by: Archer at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (gmo/4)

422 Cop really didn't have a choice.

He didn't have to cuff her. And he had a choice, he chose the most obvious and easy path.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (KZzsI)

423 So now I have an extra. I'm trying to decide what to with it. It's a pretty nice one with the Primary Arms ACSS reticle.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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I would certainly like a sub-thread on the Gub Post, discussing the pros/cons of various red dots. There are so many at so many price points, functionality, quality, etc., etc., that it is damned difficult to make a choice.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 24, 2020 12:12 PM (830x5)

424 405>> That had a link to the one I was thinking about.

https://tinyurl.com/ybc4n8bo

Accepted and published:
"Human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity at urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon"

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 12:12 PM (+0AKE)

425 414 She was not arrested for being in the park.

She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.
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Actually he did have a choice. He chose wrong.

Posted by: Menack at April 24, 2020 12:12 PM (buTO7)

426 I think they are awkward with other kids. I find that homeschool kids tend to be precocious and are more comfortable with adults. I think they react to public school kids with a an internalized degree of "whoa.... youre kind of an idiot".
Posted by: fixerupper at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (nw6Hr)
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I wouldn't say that they are awkward with other kids as a rule, unless they have something in their nature to be that way.

I found that homeschool kids are comfortable being with kids of all ages, as well as being with adults, because they are frequently around other homeschool families - field trips, park days, co-ops, etc. Homeschool kids don't care what grade you are in. Heck, many don't even know what grade they are in themselves!

I remember one neighbor whose daughter was in first grade at the local school. She was right in between the ages of my two oldest daughters. Her mom told me that she always wanted to play with my oldest daughter because she was a second-grader and it was cool to play with a second-grader. Of course she thought my youngest, being a kindergartener, was too young to be worthy of playing with her.

For a wide variety of reasons (that stuff was only tangential), I was glad when that family moved.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 12:12 PM (/669Q)

427 422 Cop really didn't have a choice.

He didn't have to cuff her. And he had a choice, he chose the most obvious and easy path.
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Well there were cameras there, right? That kind of kills the Donut Shoppe option for him.

Posted by: Puddin Head at April 24, 2020 12:13 PM (ZB42Q)

428

She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.
Posted by: Romeo13

Citizens need only obey LAWFUL orders from police. Shutting down playground equipment is an arbitrary and capricious action taken by the executive, who moreover lacks the authority (whether putatively delegated or not) to make laws in the first instance.

THe equipment was not lawfully closed, no matter what the idiot cop with poor judgment thinks. Maybe exercising his discretion and walking away is the better part of avoiding a Section 1983 lawsuit.

Or is "respect muh authoritah!!!" the new "Protect and Serve"?

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 12:13 PM (SFOr6)

429 400 370 Was it Powerline that used to regularly feature mock worthy academic papers?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

I don't know, but there's a Twitter account I follow 'New Peer Review' that does this. You absolutely would not believe the bullshit that gets published. Actual peer-reviewed papers.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 12:07 PM (m8d3m)

409 370 Was it Powerline that used to regularly feature mock worthy academic papers?
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 24, 2020 12:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

I recall there being a website, but I don't remember what its name is.
Posted by: m at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (wI2mw)

That's it! The website was "Real Peer Review" and it has been shut down.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y8b748g7

Posted by: m at April 24, 2020 12:13 PM (wI2mw)

430 "Funny how schools, which are overwhelmingly taught by women, are often a pleasure for the girls, and torture for the boys."
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It was sure torture for me (a boy), and I would tend to agree with you. But I have 3 data points in the form of 3 daughters, and they also hate(d) school.
Posted by: Chris M at April 24, 2020 11:57 AM (eAZVt)

Yes, clearly there are exceptions, and no doubt several factors that would point in one direction rather than the other.

Not the least of which is parenting.

I'm also not sure how any of this gender business that has gotten so confused in our society has to do with it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 24, 2020 12:13 PM (hku12)

431 377 NaughtyPine, I salute you and the other good teachers who are doing their very best and then meeting resistance from the parents. It's got to be infuriating.

Posted by: bluebell at April 24, 2020 12:03 PM

Aw, thanks! I came from the corporate world, so my take on teaching is a bit different. Last week, a colleague gave me the scoop that I'm putting in a lot of effort. Hint, hint.

I printed off a Project Time Sheet and tracked it. As of yesterday, even with taking it easier, I had 39.5 hours. And this is less time than normal, which has me rethinking where I am in my life.

Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 24, 2020 12:13 PM (/+bwe)

432 Female-focused 'Star Wars' series reportedly in the works at Disney+

There's a space-bear sniffing around in those bushes.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 24, 2020 12:14 PM (nfcV2)

433 It's a pretty nice one with the Primary Arms ACSS reticle.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 24, 2020 12:08 PM

I'm a big fan of PA's ACCS. I wish they would move their manufacturing out of Virus Valley, I mean, China.

Posted by: Bert G, From an Undisclosed Location at April 24, 2020 12:15 PM (fIDYQ)

434 Its not that a grrl's Star Wars film has to suck, its that everything they put out sucks except for one product put out by a non Disney type (psst probably conservative).
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:04 PM (KZzsI)

Really? I assume you're talking about The Mandalorian. Who's the supposed conservative?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Social Distancing Professional at April 24, 2020 12:15 PM (m8d3m)

435 The little-known "guidelines" Amendment of the Constitution is a personal favorite.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 24, 2020 12:16 PM (nfcV2)

436 430 "Funny how schools, which are overwhelmingly taught by women, are often a pleasure for the girls, and torture for the boys."
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Try an all 50+ nun school called Immculate Conception in the 70's. Unlimited and unquestioned beating privileges for them. Kids today got it easy.

Posted by: Menack at April 24, 2020 12:17 PM (buTO7)

437 Just wondering what the Karens will do when this is over. Having feasted on the power to scold and even get folks arrested, they won't be content to just bitch about their restaurant orders. Maybe the TSA can hire them?

Posted by: Mookie at April 24, 2020 12:18 PM (3vIkC)

438
She was not arrested for being in the park.

She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.
Posted by: Romeo13
........

She is an anti-vaxxer activist.

She was doing this as an organized protest. Which I am fine with.

She was looking to be arrested..

The cops gave her multiple chances to just walk away.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 24, 2020 12:19 PM (CjFDo)

439 I assume the vid of the arrested mom was not the entire video. Where did all the other mom's come from and why weren't they arrested? Did they disburse and the arrested mom refuse to?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 12:19 PM (EV+4+)

440 Yeah if it hadn't been Nazis who did the ghastly stuff they did, the entire process would have been really wrong and unjust. They had literally zero legal or governmental authority to try and convict people for war crimes, just a lot of moral authority. It was a very dangerous precedent that thankfully has not been used again since.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 24, 2020 12:10 PM (KZzsI)

I'm not so sure there was *zero* authority; I tend to think that Stalin may actually have been right on this one. Ancient War rules, the ones that have been around for thousands of years: after you win a war, you execute the entire ruling class of the defeated side, to make sure they don't give you any more trouble. That's what War should be, and one of the reasons no country should enter into one lightly. The Nuremburg Trials were an attempt to put a veneer of Morality on what was just a necessary and harsh outcome of War.

I would go so far to say that War is *never* moral, but it is often necessary. So let go of the idea that it can be done morally, and focus instead on killing as many of the enemy as you can as fast as you can.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2020 12:19 PM (trdmm)

441 She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, <<<<<<<
I agree with others, its an unconstitutional order and the officer never should have even bothered. They skip minor infractions all the time.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 24, 2020 12:20 PM (r+sAi)

442 313 Today parents can teach calculus by just googling up any number of tutorials on the internet.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 24, 2020 11:52 AM (EV+4+
Starting with Bikini Calculus.

Posted by: Napoleon Soli, Section 2, Number 1 at April 24, 2020 12:21 PM (OneoG)

443 She was not arrested for ~~being in the park.~~
sitting at the lunch counter.

She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.

Posted by: Romeo13

Got it.

Posted by: Bert G, From an Undisclosed Location at April 24, 2020 12:23 PM (fIDYQ)

444 441 She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order,
I agree with others, its an unconstitutional order and the officer never should have even bothered. They skip minor infractions all the time.
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Ever law no matter how slight can escalate to being shot for refusal. Thats the problem.

Posted by: Menack at April 24, 2020 12:23 PM (buTO7)

445 She was arrested for defying a Police Officers order, multiple times, ON CAMERA.

Cop really didn't have a choice.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2020 12:09 PM (NgKpN)

Of course the Nazi cop had a choice. He could have chosen not to enforce the ridiculous shutdown orders at all.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 24, 2020 12:25 PM (miJU3)

446 Just never crossed my mind to turn the heat down when I was at work.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (NgKpN)

Who turns the heat on at all after March 1? The question is, do you turn the AC up when you go to work? (yes, it's a lot more expensive to cool the house during the day)

gonna hit the mid 80's here today.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 24, 2020 12:27 PM (trdmm)

447 327 The one thing the left should like about Homeschooling is that all the bathrooms are unisex.
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Hope teachers aren't screwing the students.

Posted by: dingbat at April 24, 2020 12:27 PM (KylN9)

448 that is really brilliant dagny! I wish I'd done that with my older kid

would have save a lot of tears later
Posted by: LetMyOrchidFREE at April 24, 2020 12:11 PM (j9HX3)

Kid #3 AND after a 9 year gap, I've learned a few things.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 24, 2020 12:29 PM (nRWPy)

449 My homeschooled kids went on to uni, one got a Masters in Microeconomics and was offered a job with the World Bank. The other a degree in business and owns one.
Regarding teaching subjects that you are unfamiliar with or have forgotten. You only need to be one chapter ahead of them.

Posted by: Akua Makana at April 24, 2020 12:32 PM (YkUJb)

450 Accepted and published:
"Human reactions to rape culture and queer performativity at urban dog parks in Portland, Oregon"
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 24, 2020 12:12 PM (+0AKE)

Wasn't that one of the special project to see how much blather they could get published? Lead author got in trouble with his instutional review board for not informing the editors that they were the human subjects in an experiment and getting informed consent.

Posted by: Napoleon Soli, Section 2, Number 1 at April 24, 2020 12:35 PM (OneoG)

451 How about a presumptive test against the continuing existence of the Ivies. Unless the can prove that they are a net positive to society, they must cease to exist.

Posted by: Bob (formerly Beto) at April 24, 2020 12:36 PM (hVOXD)

452 "She is an anti-vaxxer activist."

Oooh. She had me, then she lost me...

Posted by: Chris M at April 24, 2020 12:36 PM (eAZVt)

453 I feel like I've paid for private school AND homeschooled. I've been in their business the whole time, including college for the oldest and for the non-major stuff for the 2nd (hippieshit he calls it) and thus far with the 16 year old. I've relearned a lot of shit. Finally dispensed the the 4th time through of All Quiet on the Western Front last week. This week it's "Night."
The youngest is a bit more independent than the other 2 but I still read the books and know what's happening and quiz him.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at April 24, 2020 12:37 PM (nRWPy)

454

The cops gave her multiple chances to just walk away.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry

The anti-vaxxing stance might just ruin it for me, but ultimately, nope. The cop also had a chance to walk away.

Or are cops so puffed up with their own bullshit that them backing down is not in the realm of possibility?

Posted by: imp at April 24, 2020 12:40 PM (SFOr6)

455 32 Would help if they spelled arithmetic correctly.

They stealth edited the picture to correct the spelling.

Posted by: Pervy Grin at April 24, 2020 02:07 PM (g2h27)

456 Richard Todd, don't know who the chick is.

Posted by: Jonjo at April 24, 2020 02:59 PM (2R3+J)

457 And public schools have no problems at all. Public school kids are smart, well-balanced, cheerful kids with no emotional problems, no literacy issues, no behavioral issues, nothing at all. The graduation rate is 100%, right? They're all headed for Harvard.

Posted by: Debsam at April 24, 2020 07:17 PM (bz0gL)

458 Eva Bartok - and picture #5 is from the Crimson Pirate!

Posted by: Hank Archer at April 24, 2020 11:41 PM (JI6K4)

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