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Study: 50 to 85 Times as Many People May Have Been Exposed to Coronavirus Than Who Have Tested Positive for It, Indicating That the Chinese Flu is Far Less Deadly Than Models Suggest
Plus: Covid Briefing
This researchers sought volunteers in Santa Clara County, California, to test their blood for antibodies to coronavirus.
Under the three scenarios for test performance characteristics, the population prevalence of COVID-19 in Santa Clara ranged from 2.49% (95CI 1.80-3.17%) to 4.16% (2.58-5.70%). These prevalence estimates represent a range between 48,000 and 81,000 people infected in Santa Clara County by early April, 50-85-fold more than the number of confirmed cases. Conclusions The population prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies in Santa Clara County implies that the infection is much more widespread than indicated by the number of confirmed cases. Population prevalence estimates can now be used to calibrate epidemic and mortality projections.Something to keep in mind: They sampled the population for antibodies, like pollsters sample a population for their voting preferences. Sometimes polls are way out of line with reality. Sometimes samples are skewed. Also: The thread below suggests that the true coronavirus fatality rate is less than that of the common flu. Justin Hart concludes this by taking the number of fatalities and dividing by the true infection rate of coronavirus. Not the reported rate. The true rate, which includes both those who get tested and who thus are included in medical reports, as well as the many people who never get tested and thus are invisible to the medical reports. But he's assuming the common flu death rate is found through the same method -- divide fatalities by the True infection rate (Reported + Invisible Non-reporteds which must be estimated by statistical sampling). But is that true? Or is the influenza fatality rate only fatalities divided by reported cases only? This is a little mathy, but if the common flu fatality rate is determined not with all cases (reported and estimated nonreported) in the denominator, but instead just the reported cases, that would mean that the flu's fatality rate would also plunge if you started including all the many, many nonreported flu cases in your estimates of how deadly it is. Personally, I've had what I'm 99% sure was the flu like six times, but I only saw a doctor for it once. I imagine lots of people have the flu but don't bother with a doctor unless it gets really bad or persists for an obnoxiously long time. (As mine did when I finally saw a doctor.) So, you know, if the flu's deadliness is usually based on reported cases only, if you added in an estimate of nonreported cases, its fatality rate could fall from 0.1 to 0.01 -- meaning, covid would still be ten times as deadly. I'm not sure about that last bit, about how the common flu fatality rate is calculated.
Here's what the seroprevalence report means!
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) April 17, 2020
- The population of Santa Clara county, CA is 1.9M (the heart of Silicon Valley and home to Stanford
- Currently, only 1700 people have been diagnosed with #COVID19 and 66 people have died
- That's a crude fatality rate of 3.6%
BUT NOW pic.twitter.com/tmqmsGS3vK
If the deaths are at 66 and the true infected population is 48K then the fatality rate is .14% !!
— Justin Hart (@justin_hart) April 17, 2020
If the range is at the upper end and 81K people were infected then the fatality rate is not even .1%
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 17, 2020 06:23 PM (z+aD6)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2020 06:24 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 17, 2020 06:25 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 17, 2020 06:25 PM (G546f)
Posted by: klaftern at April 17, 2020 06:25 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 06:25 PM (Ept+j)
This study proves that Covid-19 has a .12% mortality rate -- LESS DEADLY THAN THE COMMON FLU. Probably less deadly than the sniffles.
The study (and it was a strict, scientifically conducted mass study) basically proves that Covid-19 swept through California (and probably the whole US) long long before February and March -- probably during the Thanksgiving/Christmas/New Years season of 2019 -- AND NOBODY NOTICED.
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (N9G0H)
He lost his sense of smell and taste during it.
Never tested for Wuhan Flu.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Elinor, Who Usually Looks Lurkily at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (ezUat)
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (zr5Kq)
He lost his sense of smell and taste during it.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (+0uDE)
Permanently?
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (gLRfa)
As a conservative who's spent his life living in either Washington or California, I love seeing that I'm not crazy and that there are still many of us out there.
Keep up the great work.
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (SPhkC)
Posted by: Archer at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (gmo/4)
thanks cat ass for the tip about avoiding z-pak if pne gets the wuflu
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (G546f)
To everyone who thought that I was being a mortal danger to humanity for downplaying the Peking Pulmonary Pox...
Describe the bouquet of my derriere...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (G51Gf)
Same.
This shit has been here since October.....AT LEAST.
Giant fucking scam.
Smash the blockade, End the Siege!
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (MQ0v4)
.....go back and count all heart attacks, strokes, kidney failures and pneumonia deaths as COVID for the last 4 months to make it seem deadlier!
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (Ept+j)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (SPhkC)
Hang in there.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (Lhcx9)
Worse. It was the Democrats and Chi-Coms channeling their inner Buck Turgidson and turning opportunistic.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (s2VJv)
This place is the best. Be warned..sometimes they get rowdy and more than once the Barrel gets a few.
Posted by: Jmel at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (OeWgo)
Posted by: Karen! at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Someguy at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (Zm+LZ)
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Archer at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (vSb7
That was the preview for "The Opening of Misty Beethoven" at the Show World Center in '79.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: artemis at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (AwPyG)
This report will not help us in ousting Trump, nor will it speed up our march to totalitarian Globalism, so it is obviously a false report.
Posted by: Xi-NN and their political tools, the Democrats at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Wing Attack Plan R?
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (SPhkC)
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (uEbPt)
Hi disnaster! I've lived in liberal shitholes all my life, except for one brief stint in TX. Looking to remedy that hopefully in a few years.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (Ez6QX)
Posted by: Karen! at April 17, 2020 06:28 PM (ptqGC)
Some fat aged dyke walking her dog berated me for not wearing one. I told her to get fucked.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (oNyw9)
Posted by: torabora at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
You have been dead right from Day 1, sir, well done!
Crush these imperialist shitbags! Get back to work!
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (MQ0v4)
It was ONLY a mechanism to keep a flood on services from costing our Betters their cushy fucking jobs.
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (GcrEJ)
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (uEbPt)
Most nursing homes vaccinate their residents every year.
Posted by: batterup at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (K4I9O)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16940861
Written 14 years ago. Unbelievable.
These fucking chicoms have been perpetuating these diseases for decades and we have to put up with this shit because it's racist to call them out for eating disease riddled rodents?
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (+dsLj)
zombie I completely believe this happened; my uncle came from San Fran region for a family part before Thanksgiving, and he was sick, and after his visit a few of us had this cough/fever/weirdly swollen lymph nodes thing. awful. my mom was sick for over a month - really bad.
ANYWAY!
could it just simply be that certain physiological or genetic profiles react much more to this virus? hmm who knows. something is way off here.
Posted by: BlackOrchidMasked at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (vSb7
Hubs works for the USDA and toured around WA with him for a couple of days. Hubs liked him a lot.
Posted by: Jordan61 at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (Ez6QX)
Some fat aged dyke walking her dog berated me for not wearing one. I told her to get fucked.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Outside?!?!?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (oNyw9)
Influenza prevalence is in the 10s of millions every year - there are not anywhere close to 10s of millions of influenza antibody test results.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (El6T/)
.@IHME_UW latest model revises expected Missouri #COVID deaths from 1712 to...362 thru beginning of August.
That's kind of a big miss, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (HuH1F)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Wing Attack Plan R?
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 06:29 PM (VNfwt)
No, the reaction to Wing Attack Plan R. Once they knew the attack was on, why not just launch everything. And then... PROFIT!
But hair would be somewhat mussed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (s2VJv)
Some fat aged dyke walking her dog berated me for not wearing one. I told her to get fucked.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (s2VJv)
Hell yeah!
Posted by: LOL at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (pUwNX)
He lost his sense of smell and taste during it.
Never tested for Wuhan Flu.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (+0uDE)
whenabouts was this?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (G546f)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (s2VJv)
If she's a Karen, she'll be reporting you to the authoritays!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (ptqGC)
-
You can't have a decent hysteria without some exaggeration.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (+y/Ru)
* Shriek *
We were promised no math on the blog! I distinctly remember that! This is so triggering!!!!
I DEMAND TO SPEAK WITH THE OWNER!!!!
Posted by: Karen at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (Ix626)
He lost his sense of smell and taste during it.
Never tested for Wuhan Flu.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:26 PM (+0uDE)
It's only Wuhan Flu if he died. If he lived, it messes with our numerator to maximize panic.
Posted by: Xi-NN and their political tools, the Democrats at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (oNyw9)
Some fat aged dyke walking her dog berated me for not wearing one. I told her to get fucked.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Outside?!?!?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (oNyw9)
No, my wife. Of course outside!!!
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (s2VJv)
He suspected he had pneumonia, or the Wuhan flu. He was basically wiped out after a normal workday, and going to sleep at 7 pm.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (mWwWG)
We destroyed a $34 Trillion dollar economy because Democrats can't stand the idea of Trump for 4 more years and they saw an opportunity to defile, destroy and desecrate the America they hate...
Posted by: Surprise Anal Pangolin at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (d6DSt)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (MQ0v4)
I enjoy that snark and sarcasm also reigns supreme here. It does feel like family.
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (SPhkC)
TRUMP'S THIRD TERM!!
Posted by: banned sez good enuf for fdr, bitches at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (t1SMC)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (K22Va)
Probably happens all the time but they chalk it up to the flu.
When flu killed 60k in 2018, I'm pretty sure a metric fton of those were people in nursing homes.
But again no one noticed or made a big stink, because flu.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (lrLm3)
Where is remote controlled subrectum these days?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (+dsLj)
It WAS considered racist.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (vSb78)
It was pretty rampant here, but no one was hiding in their houses. I believe there were a few deaths.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (ptqGC)
...and not with a latex fugazi, either.
Get yourself some grain fed dick, Karen.
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (GcrEJ)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMasked at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton ''
Did you really? Fist bump.
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Archer at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (gmo/4)
59 @RGreggKeller
.@IHME_UW latest model revises expected Missouri #COVID deaths from 1712 to...362 thru beginning of August.
That's kind of a big miss, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (cF8AT)
Oh, hey!
That is some ASS KICKIN' MODELING RIGHT THERE!
(Send those folks over here -- I want to give them each a good ass kickin'!)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (pNxlR)
We destroyed a $34 Trillion dollar economy because Democrats can't stand the idea of Trump for 4 more years and they saw an opportunity to defile, destroy and desecrate the America they hate...
Posted by: Surprise Anal Pangolin at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (d6DSt)
It's worse than that. They also found out that they could declare martial law on any pretext. That will be the danger going forward. Count on it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: TruthHurts at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (OdpRq)
*********************
New Yorker here. Feel my pain. Feel it all day long.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton ''
Did you really? Fist bump.
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (gLRfa)
Yes indeed.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (s2VJv)
No bodies on the greens. None.
KNOCK THIS STUPID SHIT OFF
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (SPhkC)
Yes, just like family. BTW, I believe it's your turn to do the dishes.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (+0uDE)
As a conservative who's spent his life living in either Washington or California, I love seeing that I'm not crazy and that there are still many of us out there.
Keep up the great work.
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (SPhkC)
Hope to see you, post-Covad crazytime, at the next PacNWMoMe!
And don't be a stranger!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (sy5kK)
*********************
New Yorker here. Feel my pain. Feel it all day long.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (+dsLj)
I'm in the belly of the beast. The Village.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (s2VJv)
==
that definitely sounds like wuflu, with the loss of smell and taste
he didn't infect anyone in the family?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (G546f)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (s2VJv)
Which one of you guys will hit that for JJ?
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv)
---
Yep.
Just imagine what they'll come up with if Trump wins again in Nov.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (RU4sa)
That's like being angry if someone pissed in the ocean at the beach.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (oNyw9)
Posted by: Archer
Gentlemen! You can't fight in here! This is the WAR room!
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: klaftern at April 17, 2020 06:25 PM (RuIsu)
************
Seems to be like that in Crown Heights.
That population congregates closely and did their own thing. Don't discount this 'flu'. It kills.
I'd like to see some statistics on regular flu. That is getting ignored in the hype. You would think regular flu numbers way down by now.
Posted by: torabora at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (Y274z)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (oVJmc)
Go on.........
Posted by: Anthony Fauci at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (jwWKU)
You know, the funny thing is I've been watching this since mid-January...I think most of us here have been, at least peripherally. At first I withheld judgement, by mid-February I was getting a bit concerned, and right before the US lost their minds over this I decided it was no big deal.
Glad I was right although the TP situation was a bit concerning until I scored some at Costco.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (VNfwt)
380 Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:12 PM (NWiLs)
I don't know if it's o.k. to ask this, but I will anyway. Did this job come through as a result of an interview which you thought went well and you liked the guy who interviewed you but them you hadn't heard anything.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 06:20 PM (WI7YS)
If I follow this correctly, not exactly. There was a bit of a lag between my initial and callback interviews, but then things moved fairly quickly after that.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (s2VJv)
*******************
Shites and onions! O___O
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (+dsLj)
They can then choose to comment on it or just keep touting the the models.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (ch6++)
On a happier note, I've attached a wireless mouse to my new Dell laptop and turned off that treacherous touchpad thing. I don't know if it's Win 10 or my particular laptop, or the model of laptop -- but the touchpad is not reliable. I told Win 10 not to open a link I hover over, but it was doing it anyway. Now, not at all.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (rpbg1)
I looked for a Karen fight at Wegmans today. I was one of two in a crowded store with no mask. Nobody said anything.
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2020 06:32 PM (mWwWG)
===
BINGO.
I went to the ACE, had to stand in line and was 1 out of 35 that had no mask no gloves and bitched loudly to anyone. Many masked people agreed with me. That is what leftist social pressure and FEAR can do.
Then went to the grocery store did the same thing. Oh No TP, no rice, no bulk beans, eggs $/doz.
THIS SHIT HAS TO STOP!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (pw+jk)
could declare martial law on any pretext. That will be the danger going
forward. Count on it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv)
This. They will never lift the boot from our necks if they get their way.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (lwiT4)
With prices like these ? I must be CRAAAAAZZYY!!
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (87EdW)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (El6T/)
AIDS exploded on the scene around 1980. Wasn't identified as a separate virus (HIV) until 1982, I believe. Scientists at the time concluded it must have started in '79 among "anal sex practitioners" in the gay community.
Many years after all that, someone found an old tissue sample saved from a Wes African cadaver which has been donated to science back in 1959.
Guess what? The 1959 tissue sample tested positive for HIV.
That means that in reality, the HIV virus had first emerged back in the 1950s (if not earlier), but was limited to backwoods populations in West Africa for DECADES, before somehow escaping out to the West and then the whole world. (Presumably some gay First-World guy had sex with an infected African guy in Africa -- something that probably rarely if ever happened before the 1970s.) Only THEN were we off to the races.
We may eventually learn something similar about this Wuhan coronavirus. It may have been endemic in that part of China for YEARS before erupting into what was perceived as an international epidemic.
But could it be that those 85 Americans who test positive for the coronoavirus-19 antibodies didn't catch it in early 2020, or even late 2019, but possibly years and years ago -- unwittingly?
Could what we now call "novel coronavirus 2019" actually be an endemic disease that reached our shores long ago, but nobody realized it?
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: the bandit banned at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (t1SMC)
Posted by: Archer at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (vSb78)
59 @RGreggKeller
.@IHME_UW latest model revises expected Missouri #COVID deaths from 1712 to...362 thru beginning of August.
That's kind of a big miss, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (cF8AT)
THIS is your "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED!" crowd's behavior. Adjusting, tweaking and diddleshitting the numbers to "take reality into better account".
I loath them with the heat of 100,000 suns because they are such complete frauds.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (pNxlR)
Would it have been preferable if the person who yelled at you had been a slender young heterosexual millennial woman walking her dog?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (WI7YS)
Those that are building and managing these wildly inaccurate Covad models are like an NFL coach going 3-13, 2-14, 1-15, and 3-13 for wins in four years, and calling himself a great coach.
Carpet doesn't match the drapes, as the saying goes.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: batterup at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (K4I9O)
I get that. But not against this. If 50 to 85 times people have had it since September, it means nursing homes have been exposed since then too. And it's hitting them extra hard... yet no one noticed until we named it...?
I don't have a problem with this idea that this thing may have been way overblown, but my mind likes order and patterns, and that's the question it raises for me.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: ShainS at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (gdcdy)
He has a lot on his shoulders.
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (Lhcx9)
/Chanel Rion OAN Twitter
Posted by: shibumi says CV19 is a bioweapon at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (El6T/)
About one second after you typed that, he had a NY paragraph.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM
You didn't offer yourself? What is happening to that famed New York neighborliness we hear so much about? That "We're all in this together!"?
It's your birthday, J.J. Spread some around!
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (DMUuz)
West Craven or West Anderson?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (oNyw9)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (+y/Ru)
Our neighborhood golf course has been WIDE FUCKING OPEN for 5 weeks and chock full of old duffers.
No bodies on the greens. None.
Same here. We live on one of six courses on our island. The Karens are watching people with binoculars (NOT KIDDING) to see if the golfers are maintaining social distancing.
Jeebus. Some of the old guys I'm seeing behind our house and yukking it up and fist-bumping each other on the green. There's one old guy I see regularly with a prosthetic leg.
I'm pretty sure if these old dudes get it and die, they'll figure they've lived long and experienced things the pampered, elitist Karens will never know. And they'll die happy.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (ptqGC)
As a conservative who's spent his life living in either Washington or California, I love seeing that I'm not crazy and that there are still many of us out there.
Keep up the great work.
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (SPhkC)
You should seriously consider attending a Meetup some time if you get the chance. I've been to two Colorado meetups and it's a profoundly enjoyable experience hanging out with "normal" people. Restores one's faith in humanity.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Processing Survey Topos Pantsless Since Mid-March at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (x8Wzq)
Describe the bouquet of my derriere...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:27 PM (s2VJv)
You just want grandma to die so you can avoid starving to death homeless.
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (kOpft)
I only went to the doctor because I needed to control the cough enough so I could go back to work.
Posted by: Gem at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (kIHih)
Wait, I guess we aren't.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (NWiLs)
Um.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (vSb78)
Would it have been preferable if the person who yelled at you had been a slender young heterosexual millennial woman walking her dog?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 06:37 PM (WI7YS)
Yes.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2020 06:39 PM (El6T/)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Archer at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM
Don't look at me.
Posted by: Mr. Ed at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (mWwWG)
I believe the phrase you are casting about for is:
OPEN THE GATES!!
Posted by: Baron Munchausen at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (C1NyB)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (lwiT4)
Yeah, and stop with the stupid numbers from the stupid models. They're garbage.
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Media Scare Machine at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (2lndx)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (vSb78)
could declare martial law on any pretext. That will be the danger going
forward. Count on it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv)
JJ, you nailed my greatest fear. Can you imagine the Dems winning in 2024? The false flags will be flying high.
And there will be a new definition of jackbooted thugs.
Because that is who today's Democrats (and GOPe) are.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: ShainS
Ima just flip you the bird. Yeah, you're #1 in my book.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (NNh6R)
check out the complimentary drinks and hors d'oeuvres in The Barrel
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (G546f)
You know, the funny thing is I've been watching this since mid-January...I think most of us here have been, at least peripherally. At first I withheld judgement, by mid-February I was getting a bit concerned, and right before the US lost their minds over this I decided it was no big deal.
Glad I was right although the TP situation was a bit concerning until I scored some at Costco.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (ExV1e)
Look, when it comes to shit like Trayvon Martin and Ballsey Ford, I immediately call bullshit and hoax.
But when it's a virus or health, you are sort of forced to reserve judgement. The Left knew this and so that is what handcuffed Trump and all of us. Until the numbers started really coming in and it didn't add up. The icing on the cake was the CDC and DeBolshevik adding thousands of people to the list of deaths to juice the numbers.
Right now, all this thing is is just a very nasty virus that will kill people. But not enough to destroy the 331 million lives on purpose.
We have been played as I had suspected almost from day one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (87EdW)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (ZCEU2)
PLEASE stay away from my wrinkled body, you diseased youth!
Unless you have pudding...
Posted by: Abraham Simpson at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (lwiT4)
This. And I never EVER want to hear "new normal" for the rest of my life.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (ptqGC)
Remember that rick cocksucker wilson tweet about this chinese flu gonna much worse in "red" areas, and jennifer feces-face rubin agreed?
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (oNyw9)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: rhomboid at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (El6T/)
He has a lot on his shoulders.''
I'm sure Mrs. Trump is I making sure he stays healthy. I'll bet the kids keep after him too.
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:41 PM (lwiT4)
Well, it wouldn't be for me if it were a straight, in shape millennial guy and I saw a lot of those today.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (WI7YS)
This is just another "get Trump" deal.
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: It's me donna at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (GcrEJ)
Posted by: zombie Alferd Packer at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (SPhkC)
That's .211. I'm sure the baseball people would say those are career numbers.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (ExV1e)
It sure would be nice to also know if there are two major strains, one being far deadlier, as a few reports have claimed.
Why this hasn't studied by Top Men here, I ain't sure at all. A good reporter might ask Trump about that; we DO have a few.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (Z4rgH)
Oh I thought you were asking about the flu.
A lot of nursing homes are now AND (allow natural death- what we used to call DNR) for admission -so for what that is worth. Lots of comorbidities with cardiovascular and respiratory diseases.
Posted by: batterup at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (K4I9O)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (GcrEJ)
The real key to predicting what these serology tests would show was that total deaths from all causes had declined.
You knew as soon as you saw that the total death toll hadn't changed that the rest was just fun with numbers. With 5500 people over 70 dying every day in America, it only took classifying 15-20% of them as boogeyman-virus related to make a really cool, made for television death ticker to mesmerize the masses.
But tards don't understand probability, statistics and mathematics, so they listen to academia. So it was the perfect plan.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (Ept+j)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (MQ0v4)
Our neighborhood golf course has been WIDE FUCKING OPEN for 5 weeks and chock full of old duffers.
No bodies on the greens. None.
--------
yeah, I drove around the greater Seattle area the last few weeks, and couldn't find a single pile of dead bodies.
And I was keeping the lookout for a pile the entire time.
Fucking Inslee must be holding out on me.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (sy5kK)
I only went to the doctor because I needed to control the cough enough so I could go back to work.''
I think a lot of people are thinking the same thing. My husband included.. He was so very sick in Jan.
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:43 PM (gLRfa)
That would be just a fat aged dyke-to-be.
Posted by: bad attitude banned at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (t1SMC)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (mWwWG)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (iTXRQ)
No bodies on the greens. None.
KNOCK THIS STUPID SHIT OFF
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (MQ0v4)
Our course is slammed. Dem Gov Cooper exempted golf. Ft Bragg is, per local news this AM, 90-95% off work.
Thing is, there is no shutdown around here. Just shifted the gen pop around.
This is a nursing home and a cultural thing.
Posted by: golfman at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (s2VJv)
Posted by: BlackOrchidMasked at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (j9HX3)
115 My dad and my wife both got terrible "colds" (the worst they'd ever had) for 2 weeks in late Jan/early Feb. Both lost voice. Had fever and cough. I got a mild sore throat and the sniffles for literally 1 day. I wonder...
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (87EdW)
Again, is it likely that the vaunted and publicized "bad mismatch" between the actual flu (which many mild Wuhan flu cases may have been misattributed to) and the "experts" best guess for this year's flu vaccine viral cocktail was a function of a heavy load of mild Wuhan "flu" being mischaracterized as actual flu?
My already low confidence in these stumblebum fuckheads is accelerating and auguring in, kiddos.
I'm starting to think that having our two grandkids visit us one day per week each over the past four plus years has more than likely given the immune systems of my wife and I an Olympic level training regimen that we'd otherwise not have had. (The g-kids are in a daycare center -- the same one -- for three days each per week.)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (pNxlR)
.@IHME_UW latest model revises expected Missouri #COVID deaths from 1712 to...362 thru beginning of August.
That's kind of a big miss, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (cF8AT)
If it's within a factor of 10, it's a job well done.
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: garrett at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (GcrEJ)
Posted by: Abby at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (SM/op)
59 @RGreggKeller
.@IHME_UW latest model revises expected Missouri #COVID deaths from 1712 to...362 thru beginning of August.
That's kind of a big miss, wouldn't you say?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:31 PM (cF8AT)
Oh, hey!
That is some ASS KICKIN' MODELING RIGHT THERE!
(Send those folks over here -- I want to give them each a good ass kickin'!)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (pNxlR)
Minnesota's is even more changed.
The max death date went from April 27 in the future, to back to April 9 now. Total Deaths went from 952 three weeks ago to 442 last week to 650 earlier this week to 195 today.
Except we had 17 people die yesterday for real. The next U of W model should be back to predicting a Chinese Wuhan Virus Catastrophe. I expect the new total will be 1000+ Predicted Minnesota Deaths.
But it is still better than the MN Health Department Model that predicts 9,000 to 42,000 deaths, with 22,00O as the likely number.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (+0uDE)
She knows what's important.
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (gLRfa)
I mention this a couple of weeks ago how I thought I had an "allergy" (around January) but now I suspect it was the Ping Pong Flu. We get a lot of Chinese tourist here. Starting around last October the flu making the rounds here.
Posted by: YIKES! at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (t6XCL)
NUKE CHINA
But first, we need to bring ibuprofen and penicillin manufacturing back from China to America.
For obvious reasons, at least to non-Democrats.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (sy5kK)
But when it's a virus or health, you are sort of forced to reserve
judgement. The Left knew this and so that is what handcuffed Trump and
all of us. Until the numbers started really coming in and it didn't add
up. The icing on the cake was the CDC and DeBolshevik adding thousands
of people to the list of deaths to juice the numbers.
Right now, all this thing is is just a very nasty virus that will
kill people. But not enough to destroy the 331 million lives on purpose.
We have been played as I had suspected almost from day one.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (s2VJv)
===
You are correct sir. I was on that same boat and even said this was BS from day 1.
Unfortunately the donkeys' hate for real Americans allowed them to use a very long lever on decent and civilized people. I particularly hate the donks that sacrificed people to get Trump... I'm looking at you Nipsy and Debolshevik.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (pw+jk)
There are a few other brave souls who came.
Time for a little revolution!
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (Lhcx9)
We just fake it when Grammie and Fen are around.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (+y/Ru)
34K/35.5M = 0.1% (numbers are buried in that link)
so Chinese Flu about same mortality rate as seasonal flu
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (pvJV4)
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (nvc6v)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (cF8AT)
No! He needs to say these things. He needs to repeat them. He knows he does. And he won't stop. When Trump repeats things, you know he has a reason so just roll with it.
These things are the cornerstones of his "narrative" and it is designed to fight and undermine *their* narrative. We have no one else doing that. No one that people can hear. Just Trump.
And the narrative he is fighting is the one the Democrats are going to try to hang him (and us) with over the summer.
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:34 PM (s2VJv)
Keep an eye out for Rover
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (CaSL/)
I was screamed at yesterday at the grocery by a crazy man because I didn't have a mask on and walked too close to his daughter. I told him to fuck himself. He said he was calling the cops. I told him to go ahead but they would laugh at him too. He said he would beat my ass, I told him to hurry up but he was still a jackass. He was asked to leave. These people are crazy.
Posted by: Abby
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That's beautiful!
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (G51Gf)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (zr5Kq)
*********
On the plus side the democrats now have to say the models were wrong and oh gee golly all that fascist shit we pulled might have been a smidgesie poosie over the top.
Because otherwise they have to say the models were right and Trump saved millions of lives in one of the most incredible American feats in history.
Gee I wonder which way they'll swing.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: ParanoidGirlInSeattle at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (UNyae)
Well, it wouldn't be for me if it were a straight, in shape millennial guy and I saw a lot of those today.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 06:42 PM (WI7YS)
I didn't say it would be great. Just preferable.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Abby at April
I hope that doesn't happen to me. I have problems with anger issues and impulsive behavior
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 06:46 PM (nvc6v)
I'll bet the suits were watching the viewer numbers, and we were the only people who stayed for the third hour of some of those briefings.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (vSb78)
the same day there were a lot of trolls on this blog, with relatives who were doctors and who were very, very scared.It was obviously an op from the get-go
Posted by: artemis at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (AwPyG)
Posted by: Sharkman Playing Brian Dennehy Playing The Medical Government Industrial Complex at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (N1kno)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:38 PM (lwiT4)
This. And I never EVER want to hear "new normal" for the rest of my life.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Social distancing. DIAF.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (NNh6R)
crazy man because I didn't have a mask on and walked too close to his
daughter. I told him to fuck himself. He said he was calling the cops. I
told him to go ahead but they would laugh at him too. He said he would
beat my ass, I told him to hurry up but he was still a jackass. He was
asked to leave. These people are crazy.
Posted by: Abby at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (SM/op)
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I wish this would happen to me. It never does. I think because of physical size, not sure. But so many curse words would have come out that the daughter would move to a 19 year old in her vocab.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (pw+jk)
visit us one day per week each over the past four plus years has more
than likely given the immune systems of my wife and I an Olympic level
training regimen that we'd otherwise not have had. (The g-kids are in a
daycare center -- the same one -- for three days each per week.)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:44 PM (pNxlR)
I'm extra crabby today because for the first Friday in recent history, we were not able to be with our grandchildren. Daughter is a nurse and requested we stay away, as I am immune-compromised. I really am not worried about getting this, to tell you the truth, but I respect her caution.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (qAR6u)
Cotton Headed Joe said, "Look, fat, blah, blah, blah ..."
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (pNxlR)
Exactly.
Apparently COVID is a cure for heart attack, strokes and cancer, because nobody has apparently died from those causes for the past two months.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (lrLm3)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (DMUuz)
Now that he's GONE you're saying that.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (vSb78)
ever had) for 2 weeks in late Jan/early Feb. Both lost voice. Had fever
and cough. I got a mild sore throat and the sniffles for literally 1
day. I wonder...
Posted by: Farmer Bob at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (87EdW)
The sickest I've been in years, was when our son came home from A-stan. I wanted to wash his cammo (for some stupid reason) and held his shirt up to my nose and breathed deeply (while crying).
Next day, I came down with the worst bronchitis and awful cough ever. Lost my voice for over a week, was on a z-pack, and to this day my voice is changed I guess forever. I used to have a nice singing voice, and now, all these years later, I can barely croak out a song.
D'oh Boy: "Do you have any idea how many shots we had to take to combat the shit in the soil over there? Mom!"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (MQ0v4)
could declare martial law on any pretext. That will be the danger going
forward. Count on it.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv)
JJ, you nailed my greatest fear. Can you imagine the Dems winning in 2024? The false flags will be flying high.
And there will be a new definition of jackbooted thugs.
Because that is who today's Democrats (and GOPe) are.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 06:40 PM (sy5kK)
This is my takeaway as well. The Commies have tasted power, and they will double down every chance they get.
I am deeply worried about just how easy and quick it was to cow the American people into a proto-martial law state. Within days we were hearing catchy phrases like "social distancing" and "self-quarantine", followed by hand wringing ads with concerny-voiced people telling us that we can work together. And the growing stigma of not wearing a mostly useless mask.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Processing Survey Topos Pantsless Since Mid-March at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (x8Wzq)
By the way, I think the real difference between COVID-19 is it is much more contagious. But the fact that it's not as deadly somewhat mitigates that factor. Furthermore, symptomatic, for the vulnerable population it is much more severe than the common flu. That means it's more likely to kill that vulnerable population.
By the way, most of the working world in our country is not highly vulnerable.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (bGY3H)
https://tinyurl.com/ya7lkemv
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (1g7ch)
forward to CBD
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (zr5Kq)
The CDC says that they try to estimate the actual number of illnesses by extrapolating from the number of hospitalizations. When they say that last winter there were 35 million cases and 35,000 deaths, that's supposed to include everybody, not just tested/reported cases.
So if the old Chinese Lung AIDS has a 0.1% mortality rate, it's on par with the regular flu.
Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (sGnvY)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton
Damn! Was she a Bull Dyke?
Doc Martens, tatts, blue jeans with the swinging chain, cigarettes rolled up in the t-shirt and the crew cut?
Maybe she was flirting with you.....Bull Dykes like to take charge.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (Z+IKu)
He doing what he has to do. He sounds like he's just about he it today. Hope he gets a good bit of rest this weekend.
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 06:47 PM (DMUuz)
well he has short elderly maternal figures urinating out of a different hole on his stoop in the village - so he has reasons to be peckish.
Posted by: batterup at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (K4I9O)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)
---
Unless they take the Trumpcraft potion!
Posted by: Retching Madcow at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (Eicbe)
China was sealing entire apartment buildings from the outside. They had crematoriums burning 24/7; we could see that from space. They disappeared people.
Was that fake?
Did China use a convenient cover to kill off some problematic people?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
It was that French, gay, flight attendant.
He would visit the bath houses and tell his *partners* - you now have the gay disease -
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (Yra+J)
There are a few other brave souls who came.
Time for a little revolution!
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:45 PM (Lhcx9)
You did?? Wow - how wonderful! What state are you in?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: grammie winger
aww grammie, that stinks.
can the kiddos facetime with you?
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (d7Ww2)
I'm extra crabby today because for the first Friday in recent history, we were not able to be with our grandchildren. Daughter is a nurse and requested we stay away, as I am immune-compromised. I really am not worried about getting this, to tell you the truth, but I respect her caution.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:48 PM (lwiT4)
We've not seen our two in person for four weeks, but we have visited them on FaceTime.
4-1/2 y/o G'son is destined to wind up here someday, I think. His parents say he has been refusing to wear pants for close to two weeks now. He says "butts" a lot, too.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (pNxlR)
The flu is estimated cases not actual cases. So I'm going to guess fatality based on estimate.
That's all I got.
Posted by: blaster at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)
Then they must supply them.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (lwiT4)
Pences, Pences
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Shep Smith at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (guGkK)
Next day, I came down with the worst bronchitis and awful cough ever. Lost my voice for over a week, was on a z-pack, and to this day my voice is changed I guess forever. I used to have a nice singing voice, and now, all these years later, I can barely croak out a song.
D'oh Boy: "Do you have any idea how many shots we had to take to combat the shit in the soil over there? Mom!"
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:49 PM (ptqGC)
OMG.
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (zr5Kq)
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Don't you think Trump knows at this point what to communicate, and has specific reasons for doing so? Or do you think he's flying by the seat of his pants and also ignoring his constituents?
Posted by: ... at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (uEbPt)
well 2 or 3 hrs on your feet answering questions can be taxing, especially for a guy over 70
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (iTXRQ)
Same here. We live on one of six courses on our island. The Karens are watching people with binoculars (NOT KIDDING) to see if the golfers are maintaining social distancing.
I know you ain't joking, but are kidding me? I was on the course today, and I saw plenty of distancing, but no masks. That was nice. I didn't notice anyone with binocs though if I had, I woulda taken a leak in their direction, in their honor.
And if within earshot, a few kind words involving the phrase Suck my Rebel dick.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (Z4rgH)
Mabye someday we can compile a list of Karenisms.
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (oNyw9)
Same here in NorCal... with a 1000 dollar fine if you don't
Posted by: It's me donna at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Skip
If I were in PA, I'd be more concerned that the Sec of Health is a tranny that specialized in adolescent medicine. Too many red flags to count.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (SfYbS)
We weren't ordered to by the state, so we met.
We had one board member that said "3 million!!"
We said "We've got faith, we'll be okay."
Every other church in town closed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (Ept+j)
It's a bit like the "aooga" horn, if you add that A at the beginning. A-OUAA.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
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Calling people "useless eaters" leaves a paper trail.
Just doing something about it, leaves a more faint trail.
Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (TQ/zJ)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (d7Ww2)
Yes, we read books to each other over Zoom. It's something. But I need to pinch some cheeks.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (lwiT4)
China was sealing entire apartment buildings from the outside. They had crematoriums burning 24/7; we could see that from space. They disappeared people.
Was that fake?
Did China use a convenient cover to kill off some problematic people?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
Measurable sulfur dioxide plumes, by satellite.
Internal organ damage to hospitalized survivors.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (Yra+J)
244 I do want a mask that says This mask was MADE IN AMERICA or BUY AMERICA across it... just to make a subliminal statement.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (wiXsO)
FUCK RIGHT OFF or DON'T FUCK WITH ME would be slogans I'd willingly wear across the front of mine.
SHUT UP, KAREN would be good, too.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (Z+IKu)
Maybe she was thinking about changing teams.
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Soothsayer at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (oNyw9)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (+dsLj)
No Karens have bugged me about wearing a mask. I have a ready reply if they ask me why....
"Because I'm not as ugly as you"
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: lizabth at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)
Or scarf?
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (MQ0v4)
Sure put an end to the HK protests and other internal strife.
China is a closed society and apparently no one in our IC has the China beat, so anything is possible.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (lrLm3)
what was it in the days or so before the bottom fell out because of plague?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (mWwWG)
Posted by: Gem at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (kIHih)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable
That and the pistol on my hip.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (NNh6R)
Posted by: azalea city at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (WX+x0)
And the world was fine with it when it was just some horny backward villagers quietly humping the local monkey population.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (guGkK)
China was sealing entire apartment buildings from the outside. They had crematoriums burning 24/7; we could see that from space. They disappeared people.
Was that fake?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
And there were medical personnel sneaking video reports out to the West.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (vSb78)
We weren't ordered to by the state, so we met.
We had one board member that said "3 million!!"
We said "We've got faith, we'll be okay."
Every other church in town closed.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (Ept+j)
That's so wonderful. Our head elder caved before the lockdown even went into effect. Don't ask what I think about him.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
Ummmmmmmmmmmmm....Yes.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2020 06:51 PM (wiXsO)
Got a gallon of sanitizer today for $65. MADE IN AMERICA.
YEah.
Posted by: golfman at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (hOMhY)
117 Ponder this:
AIDS exploded on the scene around 1980. Wasn't identified as a separate virus (HIV) until 1982, I believe. Scientists at the time concluded it must have started in '79 among "anal sex practitioners" in the gay community.
Many years after all that, someone found an old tissue sample saved from a Wes African cadaver which has been donated to science back in 1959.
Guess what? The 1959 tissue sample tested positive for HIV.
That means that in reality, the HIV virus had first emerged back in the 1950s (if not earlier), but was limited to backwoods populations in West Africa for DECADES, before somehow escaping out to the West and then the whole world. (Presumably some gay First-World guy had sex with an infected African guy in Africa -- something that probably rarely if ever happened before the 1970s.) Only THEN were we off to the races.
We may eventually learn something similar about this Wuhan coronavirus. It may have been endemic in that part of China for YEARS before erupting into what was perceived as an international epidemic.
But could it be that those 85 Americans who test positive for the coronoavirus-19 antibodies didn't catch it in early 2020, or even late 2019, but possibly years and years ago -- unwittingly?
Could what we now call "novel coronavirus 2019" actually be an endemic disease that reached our shores long ago, but nobody realized it?
Posted by: zombie at April 17, 2020 06:36 PM (N9G0H)
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The first name it had was GRID, Gay Related Immunodeficiency Disease.
Now that Contact Tracing is again a cool and acceptable public health tool, will the local health departments go back to tracing Syphilis, HIV, and all the other STDs again?
Or would that still be homophobic and racist, since Gays and African Americans are the two biggest populations with STDs?
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (+0uDE)
I live in Georgia.
First century Christians worshiped even though the Romans persecuted them. I can handle everything being closed, but I am done not going to church.
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (Zz0t1)
The Dispatch
by David French.
I serve on worship committee with him, and when we eventually get back to having meetings, Imonna have a word with him. He's pissed me off before, and now I'm really, really pissed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:35 PM (+dsLj)
No Karens have bugged me about wearing a mask. I have a ready reply if they ask me why....
"Because I'm not as ugly as you"
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (qAR6u)
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Mine is "FUCK YOU CUNT!!"
Yours is nicer but I'm not into nice when fascists try to to order me to do something.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (pw+jk)
To me, wearing a mask says "I'm a paranoid hysterical asshole who probably rats out his friends and neighbors"
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (qAR6u)
https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Skip
Same with Dallas County. So glad I don't live or shop in Dallas County.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (NNh6R)
My g-babies live 2 1/2 hours away in MO.
They have no TV, no computers, no Facetime.
I talk to them often on the phone, but not quite the same.
Last seen them over a month ago.
It's rough, I know.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (RU4sa)
249 Starting tomorrow in Pa anyone inside a grocery store or pharmacy must wear a face mask
It's the new red light camera scam to generate revenue.
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (K22Va)
what was it in the days or so before the bottom fell out because of plague?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 06:54 PM (iTXRQ)
close to 30k (29+)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (NWiLs)
Same here in NJ.
I am using a modified black balaclava with the words,"This is Bullshit" in bright red.
Makes quite the statement.
Posted by: Matt Hoffman at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (lrLm3)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (kOpft)
https://tinyurl.com/ybm3klxg
Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believe, but had not yet proved to be true.
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (pvJV4)
Posted by: blaster at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv
No, J.J. They implemented martial law without declaring it.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (Vy7tf)
None of that in today's age? Wow. Should I be impressed or worried?
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (ZCEU2)
On of my grandsons went through a bare butt phase too. LOL
Posted by: Tuna at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (gLRfa)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv
No, J.J. They implemented martial law without declaring it.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (Vy7tf)
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Yep.
Put under house arrest.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 17, 2020 06:52 PM
1st, 2nd, or 3rd version flag tattooed on it?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (NWiLs)
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They're only bringing this on themselves.
Posted by: Witchen Witchmer at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe!
Yes! I've been waiting for that.
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (VNfwt)
Has XiNN, MSNBXi, and the others pulled the plug? Has The Donald beaten them again?
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (+fPHo)
https://tinyurl.com/ybm3klxg
Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the
coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high
humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from
controlled tests of what scientists believe, but had not yet proved to
be true.
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (pvJV4)
I've never looked more forward to heat and humidity in GA. Strangely, we keep having cool, sunny, low-humidity weather.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (lwiT4)
*****
Now my ready made response too
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 06:58 PM (+dsLj)
To me it's the same people that a garden variety flu could have put in the ICU.
You don't have to be on one extreme or the other on this, I think it's worse than the flu but nowhere near worth shutting down the nation and reorganizing our economy.
Posted by: Blago at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (sjTfF)
303 I wonder why Fauci does not take the antibody test.
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (zr5Kq)
He is the virus
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (pNxlR)
We will get our country back, slowly. And when we get it back, we need to make sure we never let this kind of bullshit happen EVER EVER AGAIN.
It going to be ok.
wash your hands
keep your hands away from your face
stay at home if you're sick.
and shoot karen
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Dingbat at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (KylN9)
Very few people were wearing masks and gloves.
Posted by: Ladyl at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (TdMsT)
Bookface is a cesspool of hand-wringing and earnest expressions of concern and meek obedience is the new black. These idiots post this shit five times an hour. Who has that kind of time?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (guGkK)
I won't wear a mask unless it's absolutely required. I keep Lysol wipes
with me because I figure it's what I touch that everyone else touches
that would get me, not breathing the same air everyone else does...
To me, wearing a mask says "I'm a paranoid hysterical asshole who probably rats out his friends and neighbors"
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (qAR6u)
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The mask doesn't protect you.
It protects everyone else from you, in case you're an asymptomatic carrier.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (cfSRQ)
And there were medical personnel sneaking video reports out to the West.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM (vSb7
Who have since disappeared.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (SPhkC)
If the crowd votes thumbs down, he should be doused in hand sanitizer and set ablaze.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (Ept+j)
Posted by: Axingman at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (dKiJG)
China was sealing entire apartment buildings from the outside. They had crematoriums burning 24/7; we could see that from space. They disappeared people.
Was that fake?
Posted by: bonhomme
Ask one more question.
Did they want those people gone for some reason?
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (NNh6R)
https://tinyurl.com/ybm3klxg
Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believe, but had not yet proved to be true.
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (pvJV4)
But by all means, let's keep everyone locked up indoors.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (nu45M)
Posted by: Done at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (Y1a5u)
Overstated by a factor of 50 to 85..........
The equivalent number in a business sales force would be like saying "You missed your assigned quota this period by a factor of 50 to 85."
Not by 50% to 85%, but a FACTOR of 50 to 85.
Try pulling this shit in any commercial enterprise and your ass will be fired quick, and your professional reputation smeared for years, if not your entire career.
This is the level of nonsense/ fear/ incompetence/ misinformation we are living in right now.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (ZCEU2)
It just doesn't add up to me.
Posted by: George V at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (U2Tva)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (SPhkC)
See? You fit right in.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (lwiT4)
====================
Yes. ^^^^^^^this^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He's not a Deep State P.o.S. He's a Globalist P.o.S.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: runner
I still haven't looked at my retirement acct balance since the big drop. I just assume it took a major hit, and will take time to recover.
But I was doing well before the plague- it really pisses me off
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: x at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (cF8AT)
Must have a mouse in their pocket.
Shut up and play music you clowns.....
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (cfSRQ)
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Protecting everyone else from me kinda rings a bell.
Posted by: Joe Sundown at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (Eicbe)
That's so wonderful. Our head elder caved before the lockdown even went into effect. Don't ask what I think about him.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:55 PM
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There is a difference between caving and taking reasonable precautions, especially when half your congregation is the high risk group. God will help those that help themselves.
Masks, spacing, and good hygiene make sense.
Remember the South Korean example. One woman, four services, and 1500 out of 2100 church members were infected.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (zr5Kq)
The mask doesn't protect you.
It protects everyone else from you, in case you're an asymptomatic carrier.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (cfSRQ)
Although it will reduce your exposure to the virus.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (Yra+J)
I talk to them often on the phone, but not quite the same.
Last seen them over a month ago.
It's rough, I know.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 06:56 PM (RU4sa)
Are they children of the daughter that had pushed you and yours completely out of their lives some months ago, or is that a different daughter?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Mrs. Leggy at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (Vf4Y7)
We have bodies stacked up in nursing homes and mass graves in New York City and US Navy carriers knocked out of service
Posted by: Knut at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (mV8ED)
So sick of the tyrants.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (ptqGC)
this, I think it's worse than the flu but nowhere near worth shutting
down the nation and reorganizing our economy.
Posted by: Blago at April 17, 2020 06:59 PM (sjTfF)
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The problem was that - going into this - no one knew what we were actually dealing with.
The ChiComs lied. That was a given. It could have been SARS on crack after shooting up with PCP. We didn't know.
That it is turning out better than feared makes me happy. Grateful, even. Like maybe the prayers worked.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (Lhcx9)
I can't follow him
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Done at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (Y1a5u)
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You mean Nancy Pelosi and the Democrats delaying those PPP payments for a week? And now holding small business hostage because she and her tools won't fund an extention of the sba funding?
On your knees, Soros tool.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (sy5kK)
I'm trying not to think about the devastation to lives and livelihoods and look to silver linings. I really get only two.
We get our shyt out of China (despite the objections of lefties, who have paused in their discriminating against over-achieving Asian kids in elite colleges just long enough to accuse Trump of being racist for saying the words "Wuhan flu")
Americans got to see that Trump showed up for us every single day.
There should be more -- people find out that our schools are zombie-factories, that our cops are Red Guards waiting to happen, that agencies like the CDC and the FDA don't do the One Job they're supposedly tasked with, that gun laws get in the way of protecting yourself -- but I think those lessons will be so quickly forgotten or ignored that they don't count.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (G51Gf)
"That li'l butt f***er Fauci."
It's now just a running joke.
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (SPhkC)
I muted him.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 06:53 PM (lwiT4)
Well now.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Joe Sundown at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (Eicbe)
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But the hair smells so *good*.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (cfSRQ)
How does one hump something that will rip your face off?
ER, DONT WANNA KNOW
Posted by: no monkey business banned! at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (K+eBF)
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (Yra+J)
They are Dick's to me.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (+fPHo)
I still haven't looked at my retirement acct balance since the big drop. I just assume it took a major hit, and will take time to recover.
But I was doing well before the plague- it really pisses me off
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (iTXRQ)
I looked at mine about five days ago. Lower, yes, but not "clutch my chest, here comes the big one!" lower.
I might add that I do not know at what level it was when things topped out. Doesn't matter, in any event.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (sy5kK)
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Yeah, somebody was comparing mathematical models to a hammer. I explained a hammer was never orders of magnitude off.
A hammer is never 2 standard deviations off and outside of *most* confidence intervals. (like Climate models)
He screech-posted at me "Numerical models aren't orders of magnitude off!".
Double-digits = Orders of magnitude.
Posted by: Joe Sundown at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (7Fj9P)
since the big drop. I just assume it took a major hit, and will take
time to recover.
But I was doing well before the plague- it really pisses me off
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (iTXRQ)
I looked at my IRA and 401k at the end of March and almost got physically ill. It looks a little better now, but it's along way away from where it was 2 months ago
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (JHRwa)
********
Every man married to a leftist knows the answer to that question.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (pvJV4)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (SfYbS)
Good one.
No really, that is perfect.
The Great Bill Gates Lab Experiment of 2020.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (Yra+J)
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I take a gin and quinine every day.
Just to be safe.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (cfSRQ)
Why would anyone protest Heckler and Koch?
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (bGY3H)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975
But without the Land O'Lakes injun girl, how can guys do the cut-out trick to make her look topless?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (H5knJ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (dNzKv)
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The picture was painted by a half-Ojibwe.
Native Americans can't paint pictures of Native Americans--cause INTERSECTIONS!!
Posted by: Axingman at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (Eicbe)
Someone who's been paying attention -- when did we first know that that British dude's model was off?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (G51Gf)
332 more good news
https://tinyurl.com/ybm3klxg
Preliminary results from government lab experiments show that the coronavirus does not survive long in high temperatures and high humidity, and is quickly destroyed by sunlight, providing evidence from controlled tests of what scientists believe, but had not yet proved to be true.
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (pvJV4)
But by all means, let's keep everyone locked up indoors.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (nu45M)
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Why do you think the old fashioned Flu goes away every Summer? Sunlight, humidity, and heat kill viruses rapidly.
The bad part is this may mean the Southern Hemisphere is going to get hammered during their upcoming Winter Season.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (dNzKv)
What the actual fuck?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:33 PM (s2VJv
No, J.J. They implemented martial law without declaring it.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (Vy7tf)
Just slipped into it so naturally.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (1g7ch)
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She had a appointment with her personal shopper at Bergdorf/Goodman, checking out the new Chinese silk scarves.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (7Fj9P)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
$10 says it wasn't a Native American who complained
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (iTXRQ)
It just doesn't add up to me.
Posted by: George V at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (U2Tva)
The study was from California which prior to this was getting 8,000 travelers from China per day. More than likely the west coast was exposed to this virus quite a while ago. As for New York, I believe the current thinking is that those infections primarily came from Europe and/or Iran.
Dropping off: the same thing is being seen in Sweden, which did nothing. It's the natural course of infections.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (nu45M)
Posted by: Oprah at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (zqs/f)
I take a gin and quinine every day.
Just to be safe.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (cfSRQ)
Stupit me, I bought bourbon and I'm not going back till I finish it.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (Yra+J)
We made up a while ago.
She's spooked.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (RU4sa)
I am glad to hear of that!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (Yra+J)
And that might encourage him to write out his text.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (Eb+fP)
How does one hump something that will rip your face off?
ER, DONT WANNA KNOW
Posted by: no monkey business banned! at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (K+eBF)
I think they humped and ate them.
Closed the loop, so to speak.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (iTXRQ)
Off to our left.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (vSb78)
Describe the bouquet of my derriere...
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LOL, JJ. You were getting sporadic grief, but you're not alone in thinking this is overblown. I'm right there with you. And I've thought it from the start.
Posted by: Lady in Black at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (O+I8R)
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:01 PM (cF8AT)
Fifteen minutes?
That asshole has been Director of NIAID since 1984.
His office was instrumental in the spread of AIDS by rejecting commonsense measures on the basis that those measures would stigmatize the gay population.
Fauci probably wiped out more homosexuals than Hitler and the goat-molesters combined.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (I54dk)
Posted by: Joe Sundown at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (Eicbe)|
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I slice like a hammer!
What's with the shirts?! Everyone gets FUCKING SHIRTS!!!
Posted by: Paul Anka at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
not Hermes?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (iTXRQ)
I think the law enforcement agencies were OK with this because they're worried about things getting sporty if there isn't some relief valve soon. The weather is already warm here.
Tampa and Hillsborough County put up a 9pm to 5am curfew earlier this week and rescinded it in less than two days. TPD must have worried about insurrections if they tried to enforce it in the hoods. There was also much mocking of the virus somehow being more deadly in the overnight hours
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip
Yup, said the risks were up to the individuals. This is a clown show and needs to be ended yesterday.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: disnaster at April 17, 2020 07:00 PM (SPhkC)
I muted him.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:03 PM (vSb7
Yes, but the prestitutes have to sit there quietly and listen to him. I'm strangely fine with that.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (GhGb5)
********
Every man married to a leftist knows the answer to that question.
Posted by: Two Weeks From Turning 30 (Plus China is Asshoe) at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (+dsLj)
every infantryman too.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (ptqGC)
If you think morons don't like math, get a load of the general population.
Posted by: FloridaMan -- still think this is overreaction at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (w3u2W)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975
You're talking about the CEO of
Land O' LGBQTWERTY.
She's game
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Jmel at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (OeWgo)
Used to go camping at drop of hat. No mo, the hills have eyes And homeless.
Posted by: the banned knew some nice places too at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (K+eBF)
Posted by: Fortcoins at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (JbL9Q)
That Smithfield Foods plant in South Dakota...which was named as the current hot spot for the contraction of the virus after 600 workers tested positive. It just happens to be owned by a Hong Kong company. They own three other plants in the country (Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Missouri). While the areas immediately surrounding these plants were minimal exposure...the exposure in these Hong Kong owned plants was so high, they all had to close down.
Posted by: Orson at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (ONWux)
Posted by: bluebell at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: ALH at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (Lhcx9)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (Yra+J)
B( . )( . )BS!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Well, raimando can't be on all threads.
Posted by: Axingman at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (Eicbe)
*sobs*
I know it will come back, but mofo.
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (nvc6v)
He and his buds are still doing Zoom happy hour.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (ptqGC)
Someone who's been paying attention -- when did we first know that that British dude's model was off?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
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Neil Ferguson. Early April.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (G51Gf)
His office was instrumental in the spread of AIDS by rejecting
commonsense measures on the basis that those measures would stigmatize
the gay population.
Fauci probably wiped out more homosexuals than Hitler and the goat-molesters combined.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 17, 2020 07:07 PM (I54dk)
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So... the Jamie Gorelick of disease?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (IYHxL)
386 "Sure put an end to the HK protests and other internal strife. "
Why would anyone protest Heckler and Koch?
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (bGY3H)
Carrie Lam is making noises about restoring order to Hong Kong again.
Maybe China realizes that their reputation has already taken a huge hit?
But if they kill a few thousand Hong Kongers, they will see an even bigger hit. Bloody bodies are a much worse visual.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (+0uDE)
$10 says it wasn't a Native American who complained
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (iTXRQ)
Safe bet.
Posted by: Karen at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (pUwNX)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (G51Gf)
*sobs*
I know it will come back, but mofo.
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (nvc6v)
Yep, I'm not even going to consider looking at my accounts for a least another month.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: DooDad at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (SnLSx)
Posted by: Skip at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (ZCEU2)
PDT will be back.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (vSb78)
*sobs*
I know it will come back, but mofo.
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (nvc6v)
I feel your pain. I opened my Roth. Two more envelopes are sitting on my desk.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (ptqGC)
about that homeless shelter in Boston with 300 residents. They tested
all of them and half of them have coronavirus and NOT ONE of them has
any symptoms.
Posted by: bluebell at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (/669Q)
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To be fair, the combination of oxycontin and methamphetamine kind of masked it.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: bbbbbanned at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (K+eBF)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (xPl2J)
Posted by: Brother Northernlurker just another guy at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (Uu+Jp)
Takillya and grapefruit juice? That's so crazy it just might work!
I'm on houseparty which works really well
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (+y/Ru)
I take a gin and quinine every day.
Just to be safe.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:05 PM (cfSRQ)
I see what you did there, you crafty devil!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (sy5kK)
Dropping off: the same thing is being seen in Sweden, which did nothing. It's the natural course of infections.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (nu45M)
And that is because the disease does not have an infinite supply of new and unexposed potential victims to prey upon.
Any model which shows unbounded exponential growth is not modeling anything real. There were curves resembling such growth in the Imperial College paper that had the 2,000,000 deaths here and 500,000 deaths in UK which exhibited that behavior.
No scientist who possessed even an inkling of the math and the scientific method would have let that bowser out of his computer, much less puked it all over the world.
I loath those people -- have I said that here, yet?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (bGY3H)
He and his buds are still doing Zoom happy hour.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (ptqGC)
I did a double take there to see that you were talking about Tito's vodka.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (nu45M)
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (xPl2J)
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I wish.
Posted by: bluebell at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (1g7ch)
But at certain press conferences when the conditions are met, you can guarantee the question: "Where is Dr. Fauci, today?"
Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (7Fj9P)
What this really means if true is that the virus is way more contagious, but much less deadly than it might have been.
Otherwise you wouldn't see areas with outbreaks at 3x total mortality. (900/day dying in NYC vs. 300/day last March.)
This still puts us around 200k US dead, but may mean we get there no matter what we do.
It argues for loosening restrictions.
Posted by: The Judge at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (GDjCl)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (Dc2NZ)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (iTXRQ)
Safe bet.
Posted by: Karen at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (pUwNX)
same group that freed the animal crackers from their cages I bet.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: DooDad at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (SnLSx)
I saw a Twatter post a few days ago where someone took a MAGA hat and cut it into a mask, with the MAGA on the front of the mask.
It was excellent.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Jmel
He went to liberate Virginia
Posted by: Mark1971 at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (xPl2J)
Except in all caps.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo
How DARE you, sir!
- Brooke Baldwin. THIS....is XiNN
Posted by: Blutarski at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Mark1971
I first read that as "liberate vagina" which could also be accurate.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Pliney at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (IYHxL)
Soon as I redeem enough Coke bottles.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (Yra+J)
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My dad got the extra-strength shot.
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (TQ/zJ)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (iTXRQ)
No; I didn't mean to imply it was . Just some overwrought non Native American SJW.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (WI7YS)
pretty, young American Indian girl advertising butter. I doubt it would
sell better if they happened to pick some older male American Indian
with a pot belly and some liquor by his side. And no, of course all
Native American don't drink. There is , however, a high rate of
alcoholism on the reservations.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (WI7YS)
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Thought experiment:
Let's say you absolutely hate American Indians. You despise them.
You want them to vanish from popular culture. Damnatio memoriae, as it were.
What would you do?
Well, you could systematically insist that every single sports team or reference to them be obliterated. From now on, not a single team, mascot or symbol would feature them.
You'd also demand that their image be banished from every commercial brand.
It should be as if they never were.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (Dc2NZ)
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It's Groundhog Day #2,167. Tear a page of your calendar.
Posted by: bluebell at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (/669Q)
We wont get to those numbers. The numbers are juiced to begin with and I just dont see people dropping like flies.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
Neil Ferguson. Early April.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at April 17, 2020 07:09 PM (G51Gf)
With all our experts...
Only when he told us.
Posted by: golfman at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (hOMhY)
Posted by: bigstarxxx at April 17, 2020 06:57 PM (pvJV4)
Since Florida has lots of both, I hope that's the case.
What if the Wu Flu deaths in FL are primarily of people who don't get out much? Most of the deaths are old people who just happen to be the people who don't get out much.
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (Dc2NZ)
Nothing much. You're still screwed.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (Yra+J)
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Wait. It comes in bottles?
Posted by: Hunter Biden at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (Eicbe)
It was excellent.Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (sy5kK)
I have a hat but wouldn't want to cut it up
Posted by: DooDad at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (SnLSx)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (7Fj9P)
Did the pizza parlor, prior to releasing that growler, give you a NICS background check?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (sy5kK)
Maybe a flu shot is in your future.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: TruthHurts at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (OdpRq)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Colin at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (u6iMR)
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 07:11 PM (pNxlR)
Yeah, these are things you learn about in first year Chemistry or Microbiology. Rate-limiting factors, bacterial growth curves and all of that. Elementary stuff. Good grief, we are controlled by idiots.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (nu45M)
And that is why I hate the "offended on someone else's behalf" crew.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (fxCK2)
Posted by: Fortcoins at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (JbL9Q)
Not to rain on everyone's parade, but we need 60-75% previously infected to start seeing herd immunity. So we need 15X to 30X more people infected and recovered to achieve herd immunity.
It would be wonderful if the 2-1/2 to 4% infected included lots and lots of 60+ seniors.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (TQ/zJ)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (lwiT4)
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I like her dupioni silk jacket. I'm trying to stay positive here.
Posted by: bluebell at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (/669Q)
But let's keep schools closed all year just in case, right? Abbott's announcement of that policy lost him my vote.<<<<
If there is one bright spot in this shit show it is closing down the government indoctrination centers, even temporarily.
Posted by: the guy that moves pianos for a living at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (3DZIZ)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (lwiT4)
GAMA
Get
AmericaMoving
Again
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (oVJmc)
I think Michelle Obama's exercise program had a name something like that.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (nvc6v)
B( . )( . )BS!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Doesn't Friday feel *good*?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (cfSRQ)
Unbelievable and an obligatory fuck the Strib
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: golfman at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (hOMhY)
First model was U of WA. I think it was just as wacky.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (Yra+J)
So... the Jamie Gorelick of disease?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:10 PM (cfSRQ)
That bit about 1984 is just mind-boggling.
I did work in and around DHHS in the early 1990s, and there were at least three fossils who had entered federal service in the 1950s. I knew of two men who were named "Shirley" because they were born when it was still a masculine name.
The director of one of the offices I supported was in the first group of volunteers for the Peace Corps as an MD while JFK was POTUS.
Posted by: fktheleft at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (I54dk)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
When the Diamond Princess Cruise Ship only had 10 deaths.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (NNh6R)
China was sealing entire apartment buildings from the outside. They had crematoriums burning 24/7; we could see that from space. They disappeared people.
Was that fake?
Did China use a convenient cover to kill off some problematic people?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
What was the number of cell phone numbers in that area of China that have disappeared in the last 6 months? Something like 8 million?
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975 at April 17, 2020 07:04 PM (dNzKv)
What the actual fuck?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (ptqGC)
Taking the natives out of modern culture.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (kOpft)
Anyhow, she went to bed and left her bathroom faucet on, and it doesn't have one of those overflow drain things, so she soaked her TP supply.
Her Visiting Angel said they were attempting to dry it in the sun.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Quint
I despise these empty virtue-signalling PC gestures
the worst part is, whatever group got LandOLakes to change their logo actually truly believes they just improved the lives of American Indians
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (iTXRQ)
B( . )( . )BS!!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:08 PM (NWiLs)
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Doesn't Friday feel *good*?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (cfSRQ)
Not as good as boobs, but yes. It does.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM (Dc2NZ)
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Snow.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:18 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: Methos
She has 57 to choose from...
best and brightest, you guys.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:18 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:18 PM (nvc6v)
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 07:18 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (NWiLs)
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Embrace the healing power of "and."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:18 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (lwiT4)
Hi grammie: sounds like " someone " is fed up with it all!!
Posted by: tubal at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:12 PM (7Fj9P)
Did the pizza parlor, prior to releasing that growler, give you a NICS background check?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (sy5kK)
----
I keep thinking heavy duty gallon freezer bags in buckets might be useful in some situations. And that fuel oil is a less dangerous fluid to store long term.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (+0uDE)
It's just like the left telling everybody that every legal Mexican wants laxer borders. No. They don't.
That's the Patriarchal part of the American liberal tradition. Knowing what's better for the others.
Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (Eicbe)
I try to take a more reasoned approach. I don't know that person's situation. Maybe they have someone at home who's compromised. Fine. Best to take precautions. But I don't. So I shouldn't have to.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: dartist at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Methos
Not watching. Seriously?
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (nvc6v)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (lwiT4)
I'm sick of them.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 17, 2020 07:19 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (+fPHo)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (7Fj9P)
...Her promotion to chief executive officer is being hailed as a victory for advocates of LGBT rights.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (Yra+J)
But let's keep schools closed all year just in case, right? Abbott's announcement of that policy lost him my vote.
Who you going to vote for?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (2DOZq)
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
23 million.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (NNh6R)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Woke Klansman at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: golfman at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (hOMhY)
First model was U of WA. I think it was just as wacky.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (Yra+J)
Yup.
I attended the U of WA, but it was in the Business school, not the medical school, or the science department.
Still, it is becoming a source of embarrassment for me.
Their model is embarrassingly false, like a Tyrone Willingham-led Husky football team.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: Fortcoins at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (JbL9Q)
And Travis. I had to go to Target today, ugh, which is just over the county line. Fortunately I have a mask my daughter made. Put it on as I entered the store, took it off as soon as I exited. Won't go back.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (ExV1e)
the outside. They had crematoriums burning 24/7; we could see that from
space. They disappeared people.
Was that fake?
Did China use a convenient cover to kill off some problematic people?
Posted by: bonhomme at April 17, 2020 06:50 PM (YYlyE)
What was the number of cell phone numbers in that area of China that
have disappeared in the last 6 months? Something like 8 million?
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:17 PM (sy5kK)
---
There may have been multiple strains.
Which is why the "it's just a cold" argument didn't really work.
China was doing mass incineration and lying their asses off about it.
I'm going to invoke Mr. Wolf and suggest people not suck their dicks about how awesome their predictions were until we get a lot more information on this.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (lwiT4)
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
23 million.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (NNh6R)
Do we have some numbers for that?
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (vSb78)
A virus is either highly infectious or highly fatal, never both.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (JKNZq)
I'm sick of them.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
I agree. I'll tune back in when Trump comes back.
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (nvc6v)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (zr5Kq)
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
23 million.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (NNh6R)
Geez. 23 million?
After a while, either 8 million or 23 million, the point is proven.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (sy5kK)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (guGkK)
fuck. I had $5 on U-Haul.
Posted by: x at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM
J.J. got a mite peckish.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (DMUuz)
...Her promotion to chief executive officer is being hailed as a victory for advocates of LGBT rights.
Posted by: Braenyard
And the first time in 93 years, they are removing the Indian Princess from the butter boxes.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (NNh6R)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (7Fj9P)
____________________
I try to take a more reasoned approach. I don't know that person's
situation. Maybe they have someone at home who's compromised. Fine. Best
to take precautions. But I don't. So I shouldn't have to.
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 17, 2020
__________________________I have a cold, so I'm wearing a mask if I go out. Especially since the local sewing" and quilting groups who make care bags for foster kids and baby quilts decided to make a bunch of masks for staff at my workplace. They're really cute and sexist - they made separate ones for the men that are more masculine (football and tool patterns).
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (fxCK2)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (JKNZq
It can be neither though.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (2DOZq)
You'd also demand that their image be banished from every commercial brand.
It should be as if they never were.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:14 PM (cfSRQ)
Then get to work on the place names.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: tubal at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (90T4r)
School year is almost over anyway.
Don't see the big deal in reopening the indoctrination centers in any case.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Colin at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (u6iMR)
______________
I hope Evelyn stays out of the public as much as possible. It may very well save her life.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (r+sAi)
what's the 1st Q to Trump today?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (iTXRQ)
*spins MSM wheel*
"Mr. President, how many American deaths are acceptable to you in the name of reviving capitalism?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (guGkK)
That sounds dirty.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (iTXRQ)
Mr. PResident, isn't it dangerous to open up states when corona test is not available to every American ?
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (Yra+J)
---
"Gay" = "carefree"
Not a care in the world--'cept really, really against positive depictions of Native Americans painted by Native Americans on products, and approved by many other Native Americans.
Libs destroy words. I mean they are like the twisted sex-slavers of words. The kind that finally mutilate the corpse of their victims.
Posted by: Axeman at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (Eicbe)
is that what he calls them?
(sorry, that was in poor taste-
I denounce myself)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (+fPHo)
If you love her a lot. That's a new $2 K scarf every day.
One does not just casually buy scarfs for Dr. Birx.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (PUmDY)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (iTXRQ)
It will begin with "By what authority....?"
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (vSb78)
A source just sent this to me:
Snipers were placed in KY's capital buildings today under the Dem Governor's orders after protestors interrupted his press conference on Wednesday. The snipers were stationed directly across the street from where the protestors were on Wednesday.
https://tinyurl.com/y9xrld7g
The fuck!?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (DMUuz)
got hit on by a dyke
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (RU4sa)
Maybe this will convince more people to home school?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (85Gof)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at April 17, 2020 07:13 PM
J.J. got a mite peckish.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (DMUuz)
Who was the lucky Peckee??
Posted by: tubal at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (JKNZq)
---
*Ahem*
Posted by: Ebola at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (XhWtx)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (bGY3H)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (DMUuz)
The Wuhan body count may have something to do with communist party infighting:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/yb5tgu6s
Posted by: fktheleft at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (I54dk)
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
23 million.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (NNh6R)
Do we have some numbers for that?
Posted by: m
I overshot. It's 21 million. Supposedly.
https://tinyurl.com/ycrggyyk
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (NNh6R)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (JKNZq)
---
Which is why I wonder if there were multiple stains.
SARS tended to kill really fast, limiting its spread. COVID seems to be everywhere, but not as lethal. China was welding people into buildings and had people collapsing on the streets of Wuhan.
That's not "just the flu."
Again, everyone taking a victory lap needs to check themselves. Still a lot to learn here.
And I will again state how truly happy I am that we do not have more dead.
Maybe the prayers worked.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (cfSRQ)
Posted by: DooDad at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (SnLSx)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (lwiT4)
what's the 1st Q to Trump today?
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (iTXRQ)
"Aren't you encouraging armed rebellion with your 'LIBERATE' tweets today??
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (cF8AT)
That sounds dirty.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (ZLI7S)
Removing butter boxes from Indian Princesses sounds even dirtier.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (2DOZq)
Will the thousands of probable suicides that will occur, directly because of the economic shutdown caused by the huge number of bankrupt businesses, homelessness, and divorce that is coming, be also counted as Covad19 deaths?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (sy5kK)
They will never turn back but other companies are watching I promise you. If these guys lose business, the next guy won't be so hyped up to go SJW virtue signaler.
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (hHxp2)
...Her promotion to chief executive officer is being hailed as a victory for advocates of LGBT rights.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (Yra+J)
There's a reason why we see more store brands at half the price.
ALDI FTW!!!
Posted by: golfman at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (hOMhY)
Not to rain on everyone's parade, but we need 60-75% previously
infected to start seeing herd immunity. So we need 15X to 30X more
people infected and recovered to achieve herd immunity.
It would be wonderful if the 2-1/2 to 4% infected included lots and lots of 60+ seniors.
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (+0uDE)
If it's no more fatal than the flu (which is the point of the discussion), why would we care about herd immunity any more?
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (kOpft)
If all my patients wear red sneakers, I still don't list red sneakers as an underlying cause of death.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (Ept+j)
Posted by: Infidel at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (nvc6v)
A source just sent this to me:
Snipers were placed in KY's capital buildings today under the Dem Governor's orders after protestors interrupted his press conference on Wednesday. The snipers were stationed directly across the street from where the protestors were on Wednesday.
https://tinyurl.com/y9xrld7g
The fuck!?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)
Art thread.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Tami
that's what I'm thinking too
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: rd at April 17, 2020 07:16 PM (+0uDE)
Like many here, think i had the chicom war virus jan/feb, but loathe to seek antibody testing b/c hippa seems to have taken a back seat to panic. Worried authorities will find excuse to kill parrot. We went thru exotic newcastle slaughter here years ago. Vector control Not Welcome here.
Posted by: banned bird threatened, you gonna be sorry at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (K+eBF)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 17, 2020 07:22 PM (JKNZq)
"risk their lives for a few dollars" is the first hint that the speaker is still getting paid and isn't sweating the business loans or the mortgage. Shows obvious ignorance to the economic damage that is going on, and if she said that in front of someone who is watching the business they built go tits up, she'd find herself in rapid need of dental work
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (qAR6u)
That sounds dirty.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (ZLI7S)
---
Newsletter?
Posted by: Marlon Brando at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:23 PM (NNh6R)
Read that O'Lakes had been taken over some time ago. Not One More Stick. We have two local butter manufacturers, I patronize them.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (Vy7tf)
Bring on Trump and his baseball bat.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (Yra+J)
More like a Whack-A-Mole mallet.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (Yra+J)
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (vSb78)
A source just sent this to me:
Snipers were placed in KY's capital buildings today under the Dem Governor's orders after protestors interrupted his press conference on Wednesday. The snipers were stationed directly across the street from where the protestors were on Wednesday.
https://tinyurl.com/y9xrld7g
The fuck!?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)
**********
Elections have consequences, idiot voters.
Posted by: redridinghood at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (wiXsO)
*points to AOSHQ Masthead*
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (Yra+J)
LOL!
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:29 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: runner at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (iTXRQ)
occur, directly because of the economic shutdown caused by the huge
number of bankrupt businesses, homelessness, and divorce that is coming,
be also counted as Covad19 deaths?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:27 PM (sy5kK)
I mentioned this morning that my daughter moonlights as a forensics nurse. Domestic violence is up 40 percent in her area. Like, choking your wife kind of violence.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (lwiT4)
Coincidence, obviously.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg
23 million.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:21 PM (NNh6R)
Do we have some numbers for that?
Posted by: m
I overshot. It's 21 million. Supposedly.
https://tinyurl.com/ycrggyyk
Posted by: rickb223 at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (NNh6R)
Thanks.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (vSb78)
Snipers were placed in KY's capital buildings today under the Dem Governor's orders after protestors interrupted his press conference on Wednesday. The snipers were stationed directly across the street from where the protestors were on Wednesday.
https://tinyurl.com/y9xrld7g
The fuck!?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)
As bad as Michigan's Whitmer is, this clown in Kentucky is worse. At least Whitmer isn't sending state cops to surveil church attendees.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (nu45M)
Posted by: Traveling Man Who's Stuck At Home&&&& at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (gV6SN)
https://tinyurl.com/y9xrld7g
The fuck!?
Posted by: Tami at April 17, 2020 07:25 PM (cF8AT)
-
Govnor Idiot.
Private citizens have more snipers at their access than the KY goobernor does.
Buy a factor of 50 to 85, according to a recent study.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (sy5kK)
Land O'Lakes, became the first openly gay woman to lead a Fortune 500
company ...
...Her promotion to chief executive officer is being hailed as a victory for advocates of LGBT rights.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:20 PM (Yra+J)
All hail diversity! Nothing else matters for a business but virtue signaling
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (JHRwa)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (TQ/zJ)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (MQ0v4)
Ebola is highly fatal. It kills off the hosts faster than it can propagate. It's not highly contagious.
Highly contagious doesn't kill off the host (at least not quickly) so it spreads more widely. I think I got that line from the second interview with the South Korean head of infectious diseases. And he worked on Ebola.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 17, 2020 07:30 PM (lwiT4)
If I'm going to choke my wife, I want the Superbowl playing on the TV in the backgrounds. I'm old school about stuff like that.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (guGkK)
Posted by: The Terminator, T-851 Model, now with More Trumpism at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (+dsLj)
This is the public rebuttal.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2020 07:32 PM (ZLI7S)
Don't see the big deal in reopening the indoctrination centers in any case.
Posted by: SMH at April 17, 2020 07:24 PM (RU4sa)
Now the distaff view of things is that NOT letting them return to school leaves them in grave danger from all the abusers that dwell with them in their homes.
How one can even entertain ... (remembers the earlier thread about the PINK suet ball and her four paramours and that one of them shook her baby until "it went 'pop'") ... *** sighs ***
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 17, 2020 07:32 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy. COVID Free since 1975
They're replacing her with Mike Obama !
Posted by: JT at April 17, 2020 07:32 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: DooDad at April 17, 2020 07:32 PM (SnLSx)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy
$10 says it wasn't a Native American who complained
Posted by: DB- just DB. Inside looking out. at April 17, 2020 07:06 PM (iTXRQ)
I'm coming for you next, Aunt Jemima!
Posted by: Sen. Elizabeth Warren at April 17, 2020 07:32 PM (qAR6u)
That's not "just the flu."
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at April 17, 2020 07:26 PM (cfSRQ)
Big grain of salt here: this requires us to believe that what we saw/heard coming out of China was real. If I wanted to shut down protests in Hong Kong I would want the people there to think that this virus was apocalyptic.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at April 17, 2020 07:33 PM (nu45M)
10 died(but I mean, come on, all were ill from other things) but about
70 have tested positive.
****
Up here in Oregon a nursing home had an outbreak of Corona virus and 2 people died. This is from a sample of 80 people who are all on oxygen and use walkers. Average age 85.
Posted by: Lemmiwinks at April 17, 2020 07:34 PM (h1jJh)
Posted by: banned at April 17, 2020 07:34 PM (K+eBF)
This is the public rebuttal.
Posted by: JackStraw at April 17, 2020 07:32 PM (ZLI7S)
I guessed right!
483 I think all the doctor-speak is for the press, so they'll have no grounds for saying they weren't told this stuff. This is like an oral transcript for details that they will be held responsible for publishing.
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:15 PM (vSb7
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:35 PM (vSb78)
Posted by: DB- just
Nobody complained.
They put a LGBQWERTY in as CEO.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:35 PM (Yra+J)
I guess Nissan figured there's too much unsold inventory on the dealer lots to piss off the UnWoke
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 07:35 PM (qAR6u)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:35 PM (Yra+J)
hint that the speaker is still getting paid and isn't sweating the
business loans or the mortgage. Shows obvious ignorance to the economic
damage that is going on, and if she said that in front of someone who is
watching the business they built go tits up, she'd find herself in
rapid need of dental work
Posted by: kbdabear at April 17, 2020 07:28 PM (qAR6u)
___________________________________________________________________This is why I am deeply ashamed of one of my cousins. She, like me, is a teacher - therefore, paid through the shutdown - and her husband can work from home. Her mean-spirited comments about misspellings on messages and equating red hats with rednecks are over the top. She's commenting to like-minded people in her upscale circle, but I am hoping that her comments get out to the everyday people who work farms, restaurants, and tourist-attractions in her area.
She's shrugging off the destruction of other people's livelihoods like it's a joke.
Posted by: NaughtyPine at April 17, 2020 07:36 PM (fxCK2)
Posted by: m at April 17, 2020 07:36 PM (vSb78)
everywhere, but not as lethal. China was welding people into buildings
and had people collapsing on the streets of Wuhan.
That's not "just the flu."
---Could be "just communist health care." Particularly if they (incorrectly) assumed it was a weapon, which fits with the coverup.
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:36 PM (kOpft)
We have them. All cause mortality for NYC is available, as well for parts of Italy and Spain. It's generally something like 3 times the normal all cause mortality in areas with serious outbreaks. It would be a huge coincidence if something other than covid was causing that.
It could be that this is just incredibly contagious and medium deadly, and everyone gets it at once.
Less hopefully, there are also towns in Italy that lost 2.5% of their population in March, so it may be too early to say whether testing this one county really means that much.
Also, officially, this has already killed 11k in NYC, which is 0.13% of its total pop.
NYC is at 900 total deaths/day (all cause, not just covid) right now while it is normally 300/day in the spring.
Misreporting could be moving that a bit but I have a hard time attributing < 600 deaths a day to covid there, no matter how much fudging is going on.
Posted by: The Judge at April 17, 2020 07:37 PM (GDjCl)
Posted by: Quint at April 17, 2020 07:37 PM (hHxp2)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:38 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Surprise Anal Pangolin at April 17, 2020 07:38 PM (d6DSt)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:38 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: vivi at April 17, 2020 07:38 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Eromero at April 17, 2020 07:39 PM (XhWtx)
I use the store brand or Amish brand myself.
Posted by: Colin at April 17, 2020 07:39 PM (u6iMR)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 17, 2020 07:39 PM (Yra+J)
Posted by: Indiana lurker at April 17, 2020 07:39 PM (45xbG)
Land O'Lakes, became the first openly gay woman to lead a Fortune 500
company ...
...Her promotion to chief executive officer is being hailed as a victory for advocates of LGBT rights.
Well, she can market that shit as gay lube butter, cuz I am buying some other brand of dairy product food from now on.
Posted by: the bannex never played west hollywood (whose first mayor, gay, stole city funds and disappeared) at April 17, 2020 07:40 PM (K+eBF)
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:41 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: vivi at April 17, 2020 07:41 PM (11H2y)
Posted by: Bicentennialguy at April 17, 2020 07:41 PM (iydjf)
Posted by: Serious Cat at April 17, 2020 07:41 PM (zqs/f)
That's not "just the flu."
---Could be "just communist health care." Particularly if they (incorrectly) assumed it was a weapon, which fits with the coverup.
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:36 PM (kOpft)
They knew it was a weapon.
But only tested it on Chinese.
And it only worked on
Chinese.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at April 17, 2020 07:43 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 17, 2020 07:31 PM (TQ/zJ)
Yeah. I think.
The point was it was part of her prepared presentation and she couldn't remember the names and positions of three states.
Posted by: Methos at April 17, 2020 07:44 PM (kOpft)
those PPP payments for a week? And now holding small business hostage
because she and her tools won't fund an extention of the sba funding?
On your knees, Soros tool.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at April 17, 2020 07:02 PM (sy5kK)
It's people like you who try to make everyone think they have to choose between taking an elephant dick or a donkey dick. I'm glad you've made peace with taking your preferred dick, but I like to think there's a no-dick option.
Posted by: Done, and Done at April 17, 2020 08:05 PM (Y1a5u)
If it's 10 times worse than the common flu that's a good enough reason to close up the US. Forever.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 17, 2020 08:06 PM (mht8P)
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Posted by: BetaPhi at April 17, 2020 08:21 PM (hGNrS)
Posted by: Nobody at April 17, 2020 08:48 PM (glvz5)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 17, 2020 06:30 PM (s2VJv)
The Sefton Stomp...
Posted by: Beauslx at April 17, 2020 08:58 PM (gskCr)
Posted by: Menack at April 17, 2020 09:36 PM (UiwIl)
Posted by: MarjBaldwin at April 18, 2020 05:01 AM (H5Sbo)
With the tribe running the Media, WHERE do you imagine that you are going to get the "true infection rate???"
Posted by: Mark Matis at April 18, 2020 10:10 AM (nZJej)
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