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Ohio State Democrat Lawmaker Is... Referring Trump For "Crimes Against Humanity" to the Hague for... Having an Optimistic View of the Efficacy of Hydroxychloroquine
NeverTrump will be fundraising for her in days.
Ohio state Rep. Tavia Galonski (D) said that she will make a “referral for crimes against humanity” over President Trump’s promotion of the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine as a treatment for the novel coronavirus, despite its unproven benefits and lack of long-term Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approval. "I can't take it anymore. I've been to The Hague. I'm making a referral for crimes against humanity tomorrow," Galonski tweeted late Sunday. "Today's press conference was the last straw," Galonski added. "I know the need for a prosecution referral when I see one."
I can’t take it anymore. I’ve been to The Hague. I’m making a referral for crimes against humanity tomorrow. Today’s press conference was the last straw. I know the need for a prosecution referral when I see one. https://t.co/XQin24gqY4
— Rep. Tavia Galonski (@RepGalonski) April 6, 2020
Galonski, who represents the Akron area, told the Ohio Capital Journal on Sunday that she had "no idea" how she would go about such a referral. "How hard can it be?" Galonski, a former magistrate in the Summit Count Common Pleas Court added.The world is a very simple place for the stupid and uneducated. MSNBC "News" "analyst" Glenn Kirschener, a legal mind of the highest caliber -- and by "highest," I mean he's on crack laced with fish tank cleaner -- sagely pronounces that Trump is in fact guilty of second-degree murder. For recommending an unproven but promising course of treatment.
Trump’s conduct easily satisfies all 3 elements of involuntary manslaughter. In fact, his gross negligence is beginning to look more like conduct evincing a “conscious disregard of an extreme risk of death/serious bodily injury = the standard for depraved heart/2nd degree murder. https://t.co/XVHYy5CqWU
— Glenn Kirschner (@glennkirschner2) April 6, 2020
"The tests in the hospital, they're too short a period of time to get a scientific report," Cuomo said. "Hospital administrators, doctors want to have a significant data set before they give a formal opinion. Anecdotally, you’ll get suggestions that it has been effective. But we don’t have any official data yet from a hospital or a quote-unquote study, which will take weeks if not months.” "There has been anecdotal evidence that it is promising; that's why we’re going ahead," he added, noting that some patients have a pre-existing condition or medication regimen that prevents them from taking it.Little Brian Stelter continues to freak out when Trump (but not Cuomo or anyone else) touts hydroxychloroquine, and his Number One SuperFan "AllahPundit" continues emulating his hero and freaking his hysterical ass out right with him. The "Conservative, Inc. media," everyone. The best and the brightest. And speaking of Little Brian Stelter:
The media is putting a hundred times more effort into attacking chloroquine than they are into criticizing the Chinese Communist Party for unleashing the pandemic. They're hitting this medicine like Trump just nominated it to replace Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.
— John Hayward (@Doc_0) April 7, 2020
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:15 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 07, 2020 02:16 PM (vCA4F)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:16 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 07, 2020 02:16 PM (vCA4F)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:17 PM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: Orange Man Bad Inc. at April 07, 2020 02:17 PM (1kJfL)
Posted by: BignJames at April 07, 2020 02:17 PM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: Martin Luther King, Jr at April 07, 2020 02:17 PM (IwDj9)
Looking for the forthcoming indictment at the Hague for that too.
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 07, 2020 02:17 PM (9V81o)
@Doc_0
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5h
The media is putting a hundred times more effort into attacking chloroquine than they are into criticizing the Chinese Communist Party for unleashing the pandemic. They're hitting this medicine like Trump just nominated it to replace Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.
Posted by: ace at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (PbpT7)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Roman Maroni at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (vCA4F)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (nw6Hr)
You'd think random distribution would spread them out a bit more in the workforce.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (Y4EXg)
Said it yesterday:
"Lackadaisical diversity hire, with no discernible accomplishments", referring Trump for ...
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (pNxlR)
@Doc_0
5h
The media is putting a hundred times more effort into attacking chloroquine than they are into criticizing the Chinese Communist Party for unleashing the pandemic. They're hitting this medicine like Trump just nominated it to replace Ginsburg on the Supreme Court.
Posted by: ace at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (PbpT7)
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He's got pretty words.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Zombie Charles Darwin at April 07, 2020 02:19 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2020 02:19 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2020 02:19 PM (Qf83p)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 02:19 PM (UUBmN)
You'd think random distribution would spread them out a bit more in the workforce.
the kissups all got into the "right" schools doncha know
that's how
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at April 07, 2020 02:19 PM (j9HX3)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (G546f)
Posted by: Defenestratus at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (9V81o)
Posted by: eleven at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (Qf83p)
As someone pointed out here yesterday, the United States does not consider the blah, blah, blah court at The Hague to have jurisdiction here.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Buckaroo at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (T+o4n)
Posted by: klaftern at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (RuIsu)
Posted by: csmats at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (X5VFN)
Put them in the same room and let them fight it out.
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (ch6++)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (8JqLB)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: redc1c4 at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (mrQ/l)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (NWiLs)
TRANSCIPT:
"-that I saw, that made me aware when I was in law school - proudly for holloway, proudly for your dad, first african 'meruhcn state senator in the state uh-- in the state of... Delaware... Everything about- applause and by the way, you know, I sit on the stand, and it get hot, I got lotuh, I got hairy legs, that turn- that that that that that that that- turhn, brah, uh, uh, blonde, in the sun and the kids used to come up and reach into the pool and rub my leg down laughter in audience so straight and then watch the hair car-come back up again, they'd look at it. So I learned about roaches, I learned about kids jumpin' on my lap. And I love kids jumpin on mah lap. And ill tell you what, the men, who are now all men, the guys I worked with down here, and they're all guys at the time, they're all good men. Most of em made an awful lot of themselves. And earl lark had a rough time, and some you knew earl. Ykn- I came back as a public defender...." - Boe Jiden, 2067
Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (lg/F7)
Posted by: BifBewalski at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: Buzzion at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (G2zl5)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: CN at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (aKsyK)
He uses his mouth pertier than a $20 whore
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
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Poetry don't work on whores.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (epbzE)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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Parma!!??
*Ghoulardi spins up a track from Frankie Yankovic*
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (xkudx)
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (AHq56)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (OvKdi)
Hey All. Can we talk about 1 of the few topics I may actually know too much about: homicide? Specifically, whether Donald Trump may have criminal exposure for some level of negligent homicide or voluntary/involuntary manslaughter for the way he's mishandled the Coronavirus crisis liability in an attempt to appropriately and ethically hold accountable those who were responsible for taking the life of a fellow human being. ...
Glenn, here's a nickel's worth of free advice: the chicken is sore, tired, worn out and at death's door. You need to stop fucking it.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (NWiLs)
He uses his mouth pertier than a $20 whore
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
...
Back when at HotAir he was a commenter.
Back when.
Posted by: TexasDan at April 07, 2020 02:22 PM (hr5kG)
Posted by: Moron Robbie got the Kung Flu Grippe at April 07, 2020 02:23 PM (IwDj9)
That Stetler picture ought to be entitled, "What the head of Anderson Cooper's dick sees, regularly"
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 07, 2020 02:23 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:23 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: BluesFish at April 07, 2020 02:23 PM (WQZ1O)
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at April 07, 2020 02:23 PM (rWZ8Y)
Posted by: Javems at April 07, 2020 02:24 PM (ofIwF)
He uses his mouth pertier than a $20 whore
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:21 PM (KZzsI)
What's wrong with what he's saying?
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 02:24 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: I'm the Honey Badger, BITCH! at April 07, 2020 02:24 PM (KUQ+q)
That's two deaths the media caused
Instead of telling the truth, they have the public panicked into thinking that if you catch it, you're 99.3% going to die
Two people needlessly dead because of their lies
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at April 07, 2020 02:24 PM (2HLrF)
Posted by: Jen the original at April 07, 2020 02:25 PM (N0EkI)
Posted by: TexasDan at April 07, 2020 02:25 PM (hr5kG)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:23 PM (OvKdi)
The gerber baby is adorable. Stelter is fat , ugly and demonic-looking.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 02:25 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Jen the original at April 07, 2020 02:25 PM (N0EkI)
CardiB? Terrifying.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:25 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at April 07, 2020 02:24 PM (2HLrF)
Not to mention all the dead brain-cells just from listening.
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (AHq56)
Posted by: lin-duh
Late last week.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (hAdu/)
Posted by: IrishEi at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (UUBmN)
==
nuance !
Posted by: runner at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (OvKdi)
Local MFing FNM just now. "Doctor with 'rona getting *experimental* therapy of plasma transfusions from recovered patients.
Oh its not controversial at all to ask recovered folks to donate plasma which is more time spent than just a simple blood donation for a treament that helps a little bit with the 'rona but its turrible to use the widely known malaria drug.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (K78+l)
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While waiting for a ventilator.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (CqE5x)
idk, but I've been reading many studies and input from the front line doctors and those in the fight, from S Korea to France and now several in the US. And except for those that have a reason not to take it (heart issues?) ... it has become a pretty common prescription ... but hospitals don't want to talk about it ... maybe for fear of media attacks, idk.
There is a lot of data by now ... someone must be about to release some early totals on when the full cocktail is given early enough, and for at least 3 days. That was the French study ... if taken for at least 3 days, only one death out of 1003, as of a few days ago.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (Cus5s)
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That's just a mail order non-lawyer that works nights as a tin-horn judge, right? Two hours of watching videos and poof, you can sign off on search warrants, that kind of thing?
Posted by: Moron Robbie got the Kung Flu Grippe at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (IwDj9)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:27 PM (8JqLB)
We have vastly worse in this country, unfortunately.
Posted by: JEM at April 07, 2020 02:27 PM (8erNz)
Then you will suddenly hear the MSM and Donks demand all 350 million Americans get the treatment.
This may be the only way for this bit of stupidity to end.
Posted by: Inspector Johnson at April 07, 2020 02:27 PM (Gihrr)
Posted by: IrishEi
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Definitely a '1'.
I hope she fights like PDT does.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:27 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
22.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (hAdu/)
And conservatives have no idea why and how America's politics increasingly resemble Zimbabwe's.
Posted by: trev006 at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (GawEg)
The gerber baby is adorable. Stelter is fat , ugly and demonic-looking.
Posted by: JoeF.
Goateed Spock universe Gerber baby.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (aKsyK)
How frightening is it that this woman was a magistrate?
Posted by: Jen the origina
Not as terrifying as the fact that SJL and Hank Johnson are in Congress, and Chuckie Schumer is the most powerful senator save one.
Posted by: pep at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: dananjcon at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (u6xw0)
iirc from this morning, our own cat ass trophy claims it doesn't really work,
I read that. Why is C.A.T. credible?
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (AHq56)
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That's just a mail order non-lawyer that works nights as a tin-horn judge, right? Two hours of watching videos and poof, you can sign off on search warrants, that kind of thing?
Posted by: Moron Robbie
Night court.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:28 PM (hAdu/)
The entire Left is one vast blurred spectrum of "journalists" and "politicians" and "experts" and "pundits" and "activists" such that it's impossibly to divide all these people into distinct categories or professions.
Instead of one leftist being 100% activist and another leftist being 100% journalist, etc., it's more like Leftist A is 35% activist, 20% pundit, 15% politician and 30% journalist, while Leftist B is 50% activist, 5% pundit, 45% journalist, and so on.
Or, to simplify matters, they're all 50% devil and 50% asshole.
Posted by: zombie at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: PacosMojo at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (ivZ+f)
I saw "Parade of Flaming Clown Farts" open for "Insane Clown Posse" at the Missouri State Fair in 2001.
What a bunch of Bozos.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: pahound at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (M1DxT)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (8JqLB)
https://www.taviagalonski.com/
Posted by: Jen the original at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (N0EkI)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (H5knJ)
hydroxychloroquine and seems quite positive about it... are they going to prosecute him?
Posted by: redridinghood at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (wiXsO)
*breathe*
hahahaha
Can we start putting people like this in stocks and throwing fruit at them again like the good old days?
Somebody made a great point about "when is the PRC going to be brought up on charges at the Hague?"
Posted by: goodluckduck at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (V8zw+)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (+0AKE)
Posted by: IrishEi
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Definitely a '1'.
I hope she fights like PDT does.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:27 PM (Y4EXg)
yeah, I saw that. I don't get it. Unless they think they need some millennial cred.
Posted by: runner at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 02:25 PM
This is about me, isn't it?
Posted by: Mr. Potato Head at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (Ndje9)
...
Local MFing FNM just now. "Doctor with 'rona getting *experimental* therapy of plasma transfusions from recovered patients.
...
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (K78+l)
+++++++++++++++
Transfusing blood from the recovered to the sick is one of the more ancient methods of trying to cause recovery. That is seriously old-school. Do these people think this was made up during this crisis?
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: redridinghood at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (wiXsO)
hydroxychloroquine and seems quite positive about it... are they going to prosecute him?
Posted by: redridinghood at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (wiXsO)
No, but they'll definitely unperson him
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (ldmQR)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (ptqGC)
I think The Hague has a website.
PRO TIP: Be sure to click the "Crimes Against Humanity" button, not the "Violations of EU Banana Curvature Standards" button. They're right next to each other.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (guGkK)
They are evil and have no sense.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, buy ammo. Yes, you. at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (ifmtJ)
"U.K. Prime Minister Boris Johnson was stable and in good spirits Tuesday and was getting standard oxygen treatment in the intensive care unit for the coronavirus, his spokesman said.
The spokesman also said the 55-year-old prime minister was breathing without any other assistance.
He has not required mechanical ventilation or non-invasive respiratory support, the spokesman told reporters."
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
Yes it is. Had a buddy that I paintballed with commit suicide. :-(
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (hAdu/)
That the Constitution is the Supreme Law of THIS Land?
Interesting, Ohio? They do have an oath of office where they SWEAR to uphold the US Constitution.
Kick her out of office for breaking her oath, because she is saying the World Court takes precedence over the US Constitution.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (u6xw0)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (s6M7E)
Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know
ER doc, I believe.
Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (q19F0)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (95j/9)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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Whose mascot is the Zips - derived from 'zippers' - rubberized boots made by BF Goodrich in the 20's and 30's- don't know what to make of this.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (Y4EXg)
I haven't seen the show in two decades, but the theme song immediately started playing in my head.
Posted by: spindrift at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (BsWoB)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (Cssks)
But if he is right, we need to change some laws. Somebody charged with manslaughter ought to need to be proven to have a "depraved indifference" not simply "OF COURSE he had depraved indifference, the same thing that we're alleging in manslaughter HAPPENED and he did nothing the WAY we are portraying he did nothing."
It sounds like the "3 points" are all the same thing.
As I have no confidence in the intelligence of judges, I don't know that he is wrong--but he is WRONG.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Joe Mannix
Bleed 'em!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (hAdu/)
I mean, horrible, tragic, completely unnecessary, sure. And I doubt I'll like it.
But there is a critical mass of retards out there embedded like ticks ... everywhere ... and it's at least theoretically possible everything is about to go sideways aka Mad Max. I sure hope not.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (wGitj)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
Goodyear named Akron the 'Rubber Capital of the World'. 'Tis now the 'Rubber Room Capital of the World'.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (Vy7tf)
I would like to refer Obama and all the Democrats who voted for it to The Hague for trial on charges of murder.
Posted by: ShainS at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (oJEPl)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (OvKdi)
Welcome Back My Friends (to the show that never ends)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VsifANR96s
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (Jdw1U)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at April 07, 2020 02:20 PM (ch6++)
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I saw Michigan State open for Ohio State (like Josh Brolin's backhole) at the Horseshoe in 2019.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (TXOkZ)
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (Eicbe)
Oh, and the Hague, yes, they have jurisdiction here in the US. Course they do.
Whoo-hoo Honey! You get on filing those charges! Whoo-hoo!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: Common Tater
But the National Stockpile is low on colanders!
Posted by: zombie at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (ldmQR)
But hail Nipples! Our new VP!
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:34 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (UUBmN)
Posted by: Common Tater
Goes back to loading magazines.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (hAdu/)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (8JqLB)
Posted by: CNN at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM
You know who's the model for that?
Posted by: Wm. J. "Bubba" Clinton at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (DMUuz)
♪
Oh, I've been to the Hague
on a cause with no clue...
*sound of crumpled paper*
Posted by: mindful webworker
Print Newspaper Editions Spike After Format Change
at April 07, 2020 02:36 PM (/DNWp)
You know why. Politics. Power. Money. And Control.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 07, 2020 02:36 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:15 PM (Eicbe)
As does the lineup for DC lamp posts.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 07, 2020 02:36 PM (miJU3)
The economy IS human life. Try eating without one.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (lwiT4)
Goes back to loading magazines.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (hAdu/)
Good question, so, should I keep them ready loaded? Or should I wait to try and jam 14 or so into one as they dudes are breaking into my house.
Asking because I'm stupid.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (aKsyK)
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It's just *other people* that might have to pay for it.
I believe "my truth" is an abuse of the word "truth". But I'm tolerant of it as a figure of speech. It's when you demand that it Trumps what other people find to be true, that it *becomes* a problem.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Dansgirls at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (V25ON)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (Kpl3J)
Posted by: Roman Maroni
Nope. He'll be impeached for.....stuff and shit. #RESIST!!
Posted by: Bug Eyes and the Fat Little Man at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (aANWo)
@Doc_0
The media is putting a hundred times more effort into attacking chloroquine than they are into criticizing the Chinese Communist Party for unleashing the pandemic.
___________
The Chinese pay much better.
Posted by: ShainS at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (oJEPl)
Posted by: numbad at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (gJAok)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
Can we start spray-painting the houses of these idiots with "HCQ" in the big red slashed circle? Maybe they should get a smaller tattoo of this on their foreheads, just so the docs don't make any mistakes with them.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (0ReGO)
T wasn't to empty bedpans and dispense meds.
It was everything that comes with it. Everything , even this
So forgive me if this ploy to get hazard pay and extra benefits for doing your job is disgusting and opportunistic.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (OvKdi)
118 Don't take Tavia if you're allergic to Tavia or the ingredients in Tavia.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:32 PM (sWM8x)
Side effects of Tavia include involuntary micturition, explosive voiding of the bowels, night sweats, halitosis, toenail fungus, bunions and gum disease. Don't take Tavia if you are allergic to seafood or shellfish. Increased pubic baldness, gonadal atrophy and pervasive dandruff have been reported with Tavia use.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 07, 2020 02:38 PM (pNxlR)
Posted by: SMOD at April 07, 2020 02:38 PM (tGqH3)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2020 02:38 PM (oVJmc)
Only time anything happened there was when the US Army was rounding up the bad guys.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 07, 2020 02:38 PM (+0AKE)
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 07, 2020 02:38 PM (9J7Sc)
on Sunday that she had "no idea" how she would go about such a referral."
And that's why I joined the Army and left Akron, OH pretty much for good back in 75.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at April 07, 2020 02:38 PM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 07, 2020 02:31 PM (guGkK)
CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY REPORT-- HAGUE
Name of criminal:
Physical location (check one):
[ ] North America
[ ] UK/ Commonwealth
[ ] Occupied Palestinian Territory
[ ] Western Europe
Targeted Groups Religion (check all that apply):
[ ] Muslim
[ ] Shamanist/ Wicca
[ ] Atheist Jewish
[ ] Christian Who Never Goes To Church
[ ] Anything involving human sacrifice or cannibalism
Targeted Race (check all that apply):
[ ] Of Color
Posted by: Vanya at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (H5ZlJ)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:37 PM (OvKdi)
Shoot, why not, the Union at GM was trying for it when they got tapped to make 'ventilators' out of season.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (2mteh)
More importantly any treatment that requires drawing plasma which my understanding is they take x amount of your blood, skim off the plasma, take more of your blood, to get a useful amount of plasma so its not like a 20 minute blood donation should have some controversy 'only as a last resort' attached to it because of the real inconvenience to the donors.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (K78+l)
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 02:18 PM (UUBmN)
Precisely. A CO respirator can ease their suffering.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (miJU3)
Oh, I've been to the Hague
on a cause with no clue...
*sound of crumpled paper*
Posted by: mindful webworker
"...blaming Trump for the Wuhan Flu
In the EU, they got a kangaroo court
'Cause there ain't no ned for evidence *snort*
La la, la, la, la la la, la la la, la, la
La la, la, la, la la la, la la la, la, la"
Posted by: zombie at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: x at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (nFwvY)
bread: Dave's killer sprouted
peanut butter: extra chunky jif
jam: strawberry preserves.
meep meep motherfuckers
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (d7Ww2)
Posted by: zombie at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (N9G0H)
Posted by: getting the banned back together in court, jestering at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (eriF2)
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (+0AKE)
Posted by: Richard McEnroe at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (ABuva)
Posted by: Mr. Scott
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I left North Canton in 73 to find civilization also.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (2mteh)"
They should be beaten with car batteries.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (aANWo)
Posted by: DKMY at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (xuw39)
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (pPNCa)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (8JqLB)
Wat is dit allemaal dan!
Posted by: The Hague Police at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM
Turning Reds red?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Walsingham at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (dCigj)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
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This is the plan if Trump gets the economy back up and running.
If one person dies, "Trump chose greed over human life".
Actually Rush is saying the same thing *right* now.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: x
And the No Trump Stimulus Check.
Since he isn't your president.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (hAdu/)
"America's major medical society specializing in the treatment of respiratory diseases has endorsed using hydroxychloroquine for seriously ill hospitalized cornonavirus patients."
So the major health organizations are endorsing Trump's view on the drug, so now what's the media's gripe?
Posted by: bgc100 at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (XbTo7)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr
Goodyear named Akron the 'Rubber Capital of the World'. 'Tis now the 'Rubber Room Capital of the World'.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:33 PM (Vy7tf)
David Allen Coe is from Ohio.
"that Yankee's Rebel son"
His dad worked for Goodyear
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (s6M7E)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Thanks AOP, I forgot about the ever important respirator!
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (UUBmN)
They should be beaten with car batteries.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:40 PM (OvKdi)
wrapped in big socks?
Posted by: The Hague Police at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (2mteh)
++++++++++++++
Right, I get it - it is something of a desperation move or an investigatory/research item to find out if antibodies are transferable. I am just puzzled by the number of people who think this is a radical new idea. It isn't. Unless your in the press, I guess.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (pPNCa)
Absolutely fucking typical.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (J+mig)
I would like to thank them for this in-kind contribution to the Trump 2020 campaign.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quarantine Special - Free Delivery of Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (T+gSY)
Because you just KNOW that shit's coming.
"If you or your family members have been exposed to hydrochloroquine, call us NOW at 1-800-ORANGEMANBAD so that you can get the COMPENSATION that you deserve"
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: ... at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (2mteh)
I read that. Why is C.A.T. credible? posted by: Enquiring Minds
I got the impression he is an MD, but maybe it was a ruse ... idk.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (Cus5s)
Didnt the Governor of Michigan ban hydroxychloroquine for about three days, lift the ban, then blame Trumo for a shortage in her state???
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (Kpl3J)
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Mika Murdering Joe Scarborough started that lie.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
Y'know who does that?
The Chinese.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
Inevitable. And so, I have an idea --
The journodems are going to scream bloody murder no matter what Trump decides to do re restarting the economy. That is a given.
Now, he's preparing a new task force aimed directly at the restart process. That's good. But to lessen the screaming idiots' power to influence, scare monger, and general whininess
We need a national poll. This would serve as political cover for the difficult choices ahead. As I see it, there need to be 3 or more choices, explained in a national address, being careful to explain pros and cons of each. There are no painless choices here.
1. The Fauci option -- Keep it all shut down until no new cases (this one ain't gonna fly, but it will get some votes). That day may never come. An effective vaccine may never come (see AIDS or the common cold for examples)
2. The Sweden option -- Essentially, go for full herd immunity but since we ain't Sweden, it will be much worse in total deaths and suffering. Open most things back up, drop most restrictions, take our lumps.
3. Sweden Lite option -- This is what Trump seems to favor, and will probably be what the task force will recommend. Stress hand cleanliness, distancing when possible, but allow people to make their own damn choices within reason. Sooner or later, this is gonna happen anyhow.
Sure, it's a stacked poll, because #3 is the only sensible choice imho. There are no GOOD choices. But Americans will tend to get behind something if they feel they have had some input.
Posted by: GnuBreed at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (Jdw1U)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
the same shit. the Ohio rep isn't smart enough to come up with something that stupid independently.
Posted by: x at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
++++++++++++++++
The economy *is* human life. Production isn't optional, nor is distribution. It isn't like Trump has a giant cartoon control lever next to the Resolute Desk with "Economy" on one side and "Human Life" on the other that he throws back and forth on his whim.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (hYcqw)
Trump cannot be correct on anything for he is Orange Man Bad.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Quarantine Special - Free Delivery of Lockdown Laments from The Outrage Outlet! at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (T+gSY)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (Cus5s)
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My worry is the media will focus like lasers on the docs that are doing late-stage use, and that it isn't much of an improvement, which is exactly what one of the studies (French?) found while also finding that it works extraordinarily well before critical symptoms set in -- thereby cementing HCQ's damnation with lies of omission.
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (TXOkZ)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (Vy7tf)
Honest to God, I didn't know I had to register my meth site.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (t+qrx)
I mean, she is like is sooooo pretty, so it will all just work itself out.
Posted by: elliot at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (k94B5)
Fine also headed the committee responsible for overseeing the $2T
allocated for ChiCom virus funding.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (sWM8x)
I don't know what this means but it sounds significant.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (lwiT4)
The year we got laid low
So stupid my head's a'thrumming
Airhead in Ohio
Posted by: Donny Brook at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (J9A97)
I don't know how to do it, but if you search my posts, you'll find somethin' somethin' about batshit crazy loons with the lights on and running water, what will they be like when it all goes sideways?
What's sobering is most disaster response revolves around sending in people or supplies from unscathed or undamaged areas. An epidemic is something else because it can cripple the agencies that are supposed to ensure or restore order - police, fire, even the natty guard.
And clearly we're all plussed up across the country on state and local officials who are only in it for the money, and bring no discernable leadership skills, candor, integrity, or special knowledge in anything other than spouting word salad bullshit.
I remain optomistic in a twisted sense. Some will rise to the challenge. The ones that don't ... are really losing their shit right now.
Posted by: Common Tater at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (wGitj)
idk, but I've been reading many studies and input from the front line doctors and those in the fight, from S Korea to France and now several in the US. And except for those that have a reason not to take it (heart issues?) ... it has become a pretty common prescription ... but hospitals don't want to talk about it ... maybe for fear of media attacks, idk.
There is a lot of data by now ... someone must be about to release some early totals on when the full cocktail is given early enough, and for at least 3 days. That was the French study ... if taken for at least 3 days, only one death out of 1003, as of a few days ago.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 02:26 PM (Cus5s)
I read the discussion this am from Cat Ass about another posters comment regarding Dr. Oz on Fox news this am. Although I agree that I wouldn't take Dr. Oz advice as gospel, what he was talking about his morning was that he had been asked a couple of days ago by Brian Kilmeade if there was a way to see how many lupus patients take HCQ and how many have contracted Covid 19.
Oz didnt' know, but he ended up talking to a couple of rheumatologists , one of whom has 800 lupus patients currently on HCQ and NONE of them have contracted the virus. He also asked an insurance data collecting agency the same question and they came up with around 1,000 lupus patients in their data base that were Rx HCQ and none ended up with a subsequent dx of Covid 19 to date. He talked to another Doc who said he had one patient on HCQ who is positive, but that he did not believe the patient had been taken their HCQ as prescribed.
He said it was a small sample as studies go, but his purpose was to help counteract the media's obsession that HCQ is dangerous. The rheumatologist he talked to has been in practice for 43 years and said he has never had a patient experience an adverse reaction to HCQ.
Oz said he had never Rx HCQ until about a month ago he didn't elaborate on what it was for.
Oz page at Columbia U Med.
https://columbiasurgery.org/mehmet-c-oz-md-facs
Posted by: Jen the original at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (N0EkI)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:30 PM (Vy7tf)
Honest to God, I didn't know I had to register my meth site.
Posted by: hogmartin at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (t+qrx)
=========
Are you running your illegal meth site without the proper authorizations?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (Cssks)
So,
No free gathering over 10 people.
No free movement.
No worshipping at your local church or synagogue.
Restricted to homes.
And now we are going to come into your homes and remove you.
Try it WHO Just try it.
You too Galonski. Try coming to my door.
That is the bridge too far.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2020 02:45 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:45 PM (8JqLB)
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It was on Fox last night. Trump owns no stake. The drug is generic, plentiful and cheap. And apparently, a number of hospitals can make it in-house.
Conspiracy theory.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:46 PM (Eicbe)
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Mika Murdering Joe Scarborough started that lie.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (ptqGC)
That sounds kind of like libel but this insane accusation is being fired at the president orangemanbad.
Posted by: Northernlurker at April 07, 2020 02:46 PM (Tsks7)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (Cus5s)
I think he is an ER doc. Also, military.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2020 02:46 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 02:35 PM (ptqGC)
+++++++++++++
This also reminds me of a bumper sticker I saw when I was in college in NY's southern tier. It was a custom job that ran the full width of the bumper on a Volvo wagon. White text on a red background, it read:
"Make Living Wage Jobs, Not War"
Again with the cartoon control lever these people seem to think the president has in his office.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:46 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: DOGGFISH at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (lMn1U)
So,
No free gathering over 10 people.
No free movement.
No worshipping at your local church or synagogue.
Restricted to homes.
And now we are going to come into your homes and remove you.
Try it WHO Just try it.
You too Galonski. Try coming to my door.
That is the bridge too far.
Posted by: Diogenes
Dear Law Enforcement. Look long and hard at those people. Sear their faces into your memories.
Because those are the ones that are going to get you killed.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (hAdu/)
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (Cssks)
+++++++++++++
Not in ancient times, no. I meant "ancient" in the context of modern medicine.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (hYcqw)
"Make Living Wage Jobs, Not War"
Again with the cartoon control lever these people seem to think the president has in his office.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:46 PM (hYcqw)
==========
Can we make living wage jobs by waging war?
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 02:44 PM (Cssks)
+++++++++++++
Not in ancient times, no. I meant "ancient" in the context of modern medicine.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (hYcqw)
==========
"I'm surrounded by medievalism..."
-Dr. McCoy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (zZbCU)
Is that the same IG that leaked to the FOX reporter but she couldn't / wouldn't give up the name?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby
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Tinfoil - he went to GlenOak High School and graduated in '87 in Plain Township. North of Canton and east of North Canton.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at April 07, 2020 02:48 PM (mht8P)
Posted by: Wally at April 07, 2020 02:48 PM (V5EEH)
So,
No free gathering over 10 people.
No free movement.
No worshipping at your local church or synagogue.
Restricted to homes.
And now we are going to come into your homes and remove you.
Try it WHO Just try it.
You too Galonski. Try coming to my door.
That is the bridge too far.
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2020 02:45 PM (axyOa)
I can see CA or IL *inviting* them in to do just that.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at April 07, 2020 02:48 PM (0ReGO)
Asking for a friend.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (zZbCU)
I managed pretty well.
Posted by: Atilla at April 07, 2020 02:48 PM (H5ZlJ)
The Alexander Hague?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (pS94+)
When you're trying to save lives, you pull out the stops. DO NO HARM.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (8JqLB)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (aANWo)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (MQ0v4)
Is that the same IG that leaked to the FOX reporter but she couldn't / wouldn't give up the name?
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I don't know. Regardless of Trump's reasons, you just know this will become another rallying cry for the left/media.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (sWM8x)
Seen on Insty: The Democrat Governor of Nevada who banned
hydroxychloroquine has been caught hoarding it. Insty's link goes to a
Houston radio station.
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (pPNCa)
_____________
Odds that his campaign was financed by ChiComm money? Keep digging ...
Posted by: ShainS at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (oJEPl)
Posted by: Diogenes at April 07, 2020 02:45 PM (axyOa)
Saw that last night. Yeah - that'll be "let me die in a pile of empty brass" time. No - I won't win. But whomever tries to come through that door won't feel like a winner, either.
The last few weeks have been an education, though. There's even more people than I suspected that'll just click their tongues and roll their eyes at me - or more accurately, what little is left of me - for not "getting with the program" and "doing what it takes to get the country moving forward again".
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (/fp1w)
Posted by: Basement Cat at April 07, 2020 02:41 PM (pPNCa)
Absolutely fucking typical.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at April 07, 2020 02:42 PM (J+mig)
Treatment for our lords and masters, but not for us peasants. Fuckers.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:50 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (pS94+)
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They have informed everybody they are in charge.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:50 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Wally
________
Well to be fair, Xi needs the dogs because he's hungry.
Posted by: Furious George at April 07, 2020 02:50 PM (9vQJW)
Does that shambling whore Galonski what to ask Nipsy Cuomo about his approving NY state pharmacies prescribing HCQ?
No?
Well, there you go.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2020 02:50 PM (pS94+)
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 02:50 PM (u6xw0)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)
-Dr. McCoy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (zZbCU)
"Sewing people together like garments!"
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (NWiLs)
Want, not what.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (pS94+)
It's all aimed squarely at us. At you and me. They will take their war against America as far as they need to. I think most of us get this by now.
But there's Trump. Like a big beautiful fucking battleship out in front of us, just taking it all, staying resolute, returning fire and saying let's dance some more, bitches. You're not getting through me.
He could have stayed non-political, and be living a sweet-ass life right now, popping in front of crowds of all kinds occasionally and receiving nonstop ego-feeding adulation from 90% of people instead of 45%. He could be doing TV shows, building buildings, or just vacationing with his hot model wife and just golfing and resting forever after a life well-lived. Yet, through it all, he's ready to do it for five more years. He is amazing. God bless him.
Posted by: ... at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (uEbPt)
Nobody expects the Belgian Indisposition!
Posted by: Downcast at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (WetAW)
Posted by: Chris M at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (eAZVt)
Posted by: #meeetooooo at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (sWM8x)
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Every action of Trump which proves that he holds the office of chief executive of our government is intolerable to them.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (Eicbe)
I went to high school in Akron. So did LeBron.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (+fPHo)
Posted by: Chris M at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (eAZVt)
Nope. They want a great big body count they can turn around and blame on PDT.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (NWiLs)
I went to high school in Akron. So did LeBron.
Posted by: Les Kinetic at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (+fPHo)
Pol-fro?
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (pS94+)
Yeah. Its slower to destroy and kill than a virus, but its just as deadly and destructive to have a collapsed economy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (KZzsI)
Can we make living wage jobs by waging war?
#bringbackplunder
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (MQ0v4)
Loot - used to pay armies throughout recorded and un-recorded history.
Be happy if we limit ourselves to your valuables.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)
++++++++++
Big congrats!
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (hYcqw)
Posted by: x at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (nFwvY)
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (Ed8Zd)
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She's not you. *You* need to stay home....and shut up.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: The Hague Police at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (2mteh)
If their numbers stay low, there will be no reason for us to continue with this nonsense.
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
Whoo-hoo! Congratulations!
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (hAdu/)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)
At the cupcake factory?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (NWiLs)
Remind me of when they were saying 68w's shouldn't do IO's during
MEDEVAC because it was too risky. That is until they discovered it was
saving guys.
When you're trying to save lives, you pull out the stops. DO NO HARM.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:49 PM (OvKdi)
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Didn't President Trump sign into law the Right to Try Act in 2018? How can any governors or doctors be usurping that?
Posted by: ShainS at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (oJEPl)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison
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WooHoo!! Congratulations to her.
Posted by: Tonypete at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: pahound at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (M1DxT)
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (Vy7tf)
Posted by: The Hague Police at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: Christine Blasey Ford at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)
At the cupcake factory?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (NWiLs)
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Cupcake suppliers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (8JqLB)
It's all aimed squarely at us. At you and me. They will take their war against America as far as they need to. I think most of us get this by now.
But there's Trump. Like a big beautiful fucking battleship out in front of us, just taking it all, staying resolute, returning fire and saying let's dance some more, bitches. You're not getting through me.
He could have stayed non-political, and be living a sweet-ass life right now, popping in front of crowds of all kinds occasionally and receiving nonstop ego-feeding adulation from 90% of people instead of 45%. He could be doing TV shows, building buildings, or just vacationing with his hot model wife and just golfing and resting forever after a life well-lived. Yet, through it all, he's ready to do it for five more years. He is amazing. God bless him.
Posted by: ... at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (uEbPt)
Beautiful!
*tries to wipe eyes without touching face*
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (nw6Hr)
I think there are four major factions of opposition to an effective treatment, with obvious crossover:
1) those who want the disease to last as long as possible and kill as many as possible because that is politically advantageous
2) those who oppose a cheap, easy to produce treatment that is off patent because there's no money to be made
3) those who oppose a new treatment because they are doctors and always oppose the new and different that they are not comfortable and familiar with.
4) those who are so fixated on testing and worried about unexpected side effects or damage that they want the long process used no matter who it kills.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:55 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)
At the cupcake factory?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:53 PM (NWiLs)
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Cupcake suppliers.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (zZbCU)
Sweet!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:55 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2020 02:43 PM (nw6Hr)
Immediately after the first Trump presser in which he talked at length about HCQ and the right to try, Whitmer came out with an EO stating that it was not to be Rx to anyone for Covid 19 and if an MD or or Pharmacist did so, they were risking losing their license. This was about a day after the NV gov EO that HCQ could only be used for Covid patients in hospitals undergoing treatment.
Whitmer left that in place, and Henry Ford hospital ignored it and continued to treat Covid patients with it in certain circumstances. Such as the democrat legislator. Then after the FDA approved it under an emergency approval, she lifted the ban , and started screaming that the "Feds " needed to send thousands of doses to Michigan immediately.
Karens are pikers compared to Gretchen.
Henry Ford is conducting a trial with health care workers to see if it can prevent Covid 19 in currently non virus individuals. 3,000 employees who volunteered for it.
Posted by: Jen the original at April 07, 2020 02:55 PM (N0EkI)
Posted by: Christine Blasey Ford
Did you have to build a second door to let it out?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 02:55 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Puddleglum at April 07, 2020 02:55 PM (aANWo)
*sigh*
Yes, Gretchen Jenner did just that.
Didn't even fix the deeeyam roods, though.
Posted by: Boxx Culvert, not buyin' the hype no more at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (wmfhQ)
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (Eicbe)
Great point.
Every time he exercises some Constitutionally-granted power, a little piece of them dies.....
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (Ed8Zd)
Kleenex on a stick
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: The Hague Police - Chief Detective Biggles at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (2mteh)
Yeah. Its slower to destroy and kill than a virus, but its just as deadly and destructive to have a collapsed economy.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
Actually, a dead economy is worse. Don't matter how many people are alive if the economy is dead.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (hAdu/)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (H5knJ)
Says he's busy as hell, everyone is catching up on car maintenance with there spare time and gubmint largesse.
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (u6xw0)
Posted by: The Hague Police - Chief Detective Biggles at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (2mteh)
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There are only two things in this world I hate.
The first is those who are intolerant of other people's cultures. The other is the Dutch.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: x at April 07, 2020 02:39 PM (nFwvY)
Fortunately, there is a Hadacol List:
https://hooktube.com/watch?v=_47QrDUneD0
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (miJU3)
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (C0xFb)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)"
So that means you can now write your next book on The Battle of Stony Point, right?
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (o2MD2)
Big problem.
The elected idiots are doing EXACTLY what their voters wish. There is a huge piss-pot of people that are loving what's going on right now. Those fuckers feel like they're part of something. They feel alive - more than they've probably ever felt.
So most of these elected idiots ain't going away.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 02:58 PM (/fp1w)
Theme from "Rocky" plays in background.
Yea good news!
Posted by: getting the banned parrot banned out of the cage for passover at April 07, 2020 02:58 PM (s6Mjh)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:51 PM (zZbCU)"
So that means you can now write your next book on The Battle of Stony Point, right?
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (OvKdi)
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The house we are 6 days from moving into is a good bit more expensive than the current house.
I don't think she's gonna entertain ideas of me quitting to write for a while.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 02:58 PM (zZbCU)
Posted by: ShainS at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (oJEPl)
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:54 PM (Ed8Zd) "
Use your pet. Works for me.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (95j/9)
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This is pretty much how all great breakthroughs in human history in almost every field was made.
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (C0xFb)
Is that the same IG that leaked to the FOX reporter but she couldn't / wouldn't give up the name?
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 02:47 PM (MQ0v4)
Im sure Trump is more than justified. I love that he's in full action mode- no more dawdling to see if people will clean up their act.
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Crusader at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (ewSN2)
"Hi, Ohio Capital Journal. I'm very important person state rep Tavia Galonski and I want to do this thing that just popped into my head that may or may not be a real thing and something on which I've obviously done no actual research, but it might hurt Trump. Could you print that? Thanks!"
Posted by: Biergood at April 07, 2020 03:00 PM (FQWHA)
Posted by: Xipe Totec at April 07, 2020 03:00 PM (o2MD2)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 02:56 PM (hAdu/)
The media knows this. They want the economy destroyed only because it hurts Trump.
So they pretend that Trump is more worried about the economy than human life --even though every action Trump has taken for a month gives lie to that notion.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:00 PM (CqE5x)
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States.... counties...... cities......
Just wait til we pile on another 15-20 MILLION unemployed on top of the 10 we just racked up.
Hah!!! You thought COVID was going to overwhelm the hospitals.???? Just wait untill our social safety net get tsunamied.
Posted by: fixerupper at April 07, 2020 03:01 PM (nw6Hr)
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 03:01 PM (s6M7E)
Says he's busy as hell, everyone is catching up on car maintenance with there spare time and gubmint largesse.
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (u6xw0)
Really. People's republic of Vermont is only allowing state vehicle inspections (of course) and auto detailers to disinfect vehicles. No idea how that last one works, but they are allowed to offer that service.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 07, 2020 03:01 PM (GhGb5)
Posted by: Lance Bonesteel at April 07, 2020 03:01 PM (sWM8x)
This lockdown is bullshit. Put a wall around NYC, New Orleans, and the
state of Michigan and let the healthy among the rest of us return to
work. The Constitution (including the right to peaceful assembly)
didn't fly out the window just because China launched an attack.
Posted by: Crusader at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (ewSN2)
Yes, they seem to be of the opinion the Constitution just goes out the window whenever 'they' declare an emergency and we should stfu and stfd or they'll arrest us.
Sounds rather like the government of the Gentleman that the Constitution was written in response to.
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 03:01 PM (2mteh)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 07, 2020 03:01 PM (H5knJ)
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Cuomo wants to lock everyone up to save NY.
We should lock NY up to save everyone else.
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2020 03:02 PM (C0xFb)
Posted by: Fritz at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (95j/9)
The next time Europe starts to burn themselves down - and they will - let's just ignore all the "smart people", keep our troops home, and let it happen.
I propose that just watching those suffer who think The Hague is a noble institution would make it all worth it.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:02 PM (/fp1w)
Posted by: morigu at April 07, 2020 03:02 PM (xZNEk)
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (Eicbe)
Succinct and accurate.
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 03:02 PM (Ed8Zd)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (8JqLB)
written up in medical journals as speculative, as bases for hypotheses
that may be worth actually researching."
once we have 25 sources that gave the HCQ cocktail to all there patients upon testing positive (unless some medical conflict, or unless they were young and health and were left to recover without it) ... and only one in a thousand of those patients died (comorbidities) and only 20/100 required hospital ... While the others in other cases received no HCQ and 20% ended up in hospital and 3% died ... and 8% needed ventilators ...
THEN there is much more that anecdotal evidence. That is real data, just not a clinical study.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (Cus5s)
Every action of Trump which proves that he holds the office of chief executive of our government is intolerable to them.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 02:52 PM (Eicbe)
Wait....is Trump still President? He was peached!
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (2mteh)
Stupid will suffice. How could you possibly educate someone this stupid?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (iJVGX)
A county in Colorado is repeating what one did back in 1918 with the Spanish Flu: a modern reverse cordon sanitaire
Gunnison is telling tourists not to come, and is threatening a $5000 fine and 18 months in jail. And it's the same county that did in back in 1918.
History, she repeats.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (2mteh)
Correction: he BE peached.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (iJVGX)
I saw the same thing happen with W, who got this same treatment from the MSM. (I know, many say their treatment of Trump is worse. I don't agree.)
Anyway, they rehabilitated W, when it became useful to them to do so. It's all situational.
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (Cssks)
https://youtu.be/T3D6Ecs7VhQ?t=14
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (8JqLB)
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I'm weird about TV, and I watch very little of it.
I'd rather a great 2 hours than a mediocre ten hours to get to the good stuff.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (zZbCU)
Would rather see people dead than have something Trump expressed hope for, be successful.
But they are very keen on every getting a vaccine and a digital certificate so that you cant work or be welcome back in society unless you get the
Posted by: McCool at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (XDHLd)
Posted by: LASue at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (Ed8Zd)
Two important things he's learned:
1. Who he can trust
2. Who he can't trust
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (s6M7E)
Cuomo wants to lock everyone up to save NY.
We should lock NY up to save everyone else.
Posted by: SH
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (MQ0v4)
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Really? By saying that a drug combo, that can only be acquired by prescription, is promising? And the drugs have been approved by the FDA for emergency use in treating the China virus, and the drugs have been on the market and approved for other uses for years, and the side effects are minimal -- and again, can only be prescribed by doctors and taken under their supervision.
For anyone, especially someone claiming to have some legal knowledge, to suggest that Trump's remarks about the drugs constitute some sort of crime is beyond idiotic. These people really are bat-shit insane.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (k4dH2)
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (Cus5s)
Every single data point is an anecdote. So how many data points will it take to please the Medical Mandarins ?
You and I both know, don't we ? There will NEVER be enough data points.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (/fp1w)
Says he's busy as hell, everyone is catching up on car maintenance with there spare time and gubmint largesse.
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 02:57 PM (u6xw0)
Has the "stimulus" money been sent out? I didn't get mine.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: DaveA at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (FhXTo)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (H5knJ)
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Is "Columbo-like powers" a euphemism for butt stuff?
Posted by: Lance Bonesteel at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: DamnedYankee at April 07, 2020 03:04 PM (2mteh)
Correction: he BE peached.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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OOOO, I luv peaches!!! But it's still too early for peach season
Posted by: lin-duh at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (UUBmN)
Now they really have issues- and they want y'all to pay the bill.
Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, staring from 457 meters at April 07, 2020 03:07 PM (OvKdi)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:07 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2020 03:07 PM (XxJt1)
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at April 07, 2020 03:08 PM (T09ml)
hydroxychloroquine and seems quite positive about it... are they going to prosecute him?
Posted by: redridinghood at April 07, 2020 02:29 PM (wiXsO)
My mom had me watch one of his shows, he interviewed his millennial kids about their thoughts on how the virus was being handled for their age groups. One of his daughters, Zoe? She was super into getting the economy going again, she actually got into a heated discussion with her brother about it. All of Rush's points on the restarting economy were falling out of her mouth. I was amazed. Maybe Dr Oz has a secret Rushbaby on his hands.
Posted by: LizLem at April 07, 2020 03:08 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2020 02:59 PM (C0xFb)
Not true.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:08 PM (iJVGX)
They can get away with shit like "kids in cages" because it's pictures and it's a meme and it's cute and it's horrible and no one really digs too hard into it to understand what's really going on. But this "the economy is only money" lie is one of the ones they can't get away with. This is affecting way too many people way too hard for normal human beings not to know it's utter bullshit.
The Commie Bubble doesn't understand (or care) that people actually *do* want jobs, *do* want to work, and *do* want to earn money rather than steal it. The concept is totally foreign to them.
Posted by: ... at April 07, 2020 03:08 PM (uEbPt)
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Is "Columbo-like powers" a euphemism for butt stuff?
Posted by: Lance Bonesteel at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (sWM8x)
Columbo, not Rocky Horror's Columbia!
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 07, 2020 03:08 PM (NgKpN)
Anyway, they rehabilitated W, when it became useful to them to do so. It's all situational.
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM (Cssks)
They DO treat Trump FAR worse than Bush, it's not even close. Make no mistake, they hated Bush...but Bush didn't have to deal with a NeverBush faction in his own party. He was never accused of --or treated as being --a Russian asset.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:09 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:09 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (CqE5x)
Not yet but here in Jersey there is always a sweet, sweet check from the man on the way!
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 03:10 PM (u6xw0)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:10 PM (MQ0v4)
Nope.
My state passed their recent budget, and awarded a lot of money to different groups. Rumor is they will do another bill soon to slash out all the nonessential money allocations from the budget. Free up funds to get people in the state working again.
NY state legislature, heal thyself and do the same. Trim the pork and get your people back to work.
Posted by: LizLem at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (8JqLB)
What has Trump done?
Besides talked about a drug that just saved a Democrat rep's life.
What else?
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (8fB/R)
You and I both know, don't we ? There will NEVER be enough data points.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (/fp1w)
Uncontrolled, random observations are not data. They are invitations to research. That's all.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (iJVGX)
Are Galonski and the other 'quine Deniers going to be held responsible for THOSE deaths / illnesses? Of people NOT seeking out choloroquine treatment when it might've helped them?
Cuts both ways, sugartits.
Posted by: Hands at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Crusader at April
Um, we'd like a word.
Posted by: WW2 Internment Camp survivors. at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (q19F0)
Posted by: dananjconski at April 07, 2020 03:10 PM (u6xw0)
I'm in Jersey too.
I was asking because my bank is Wells Fargo. It would be just like them to not release funds.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:12 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: nurse ratched at April 07, 2020 03:12 PM (d7Ww2)
-- NeverTrumpers
Posted by: Hands at April 07, 2020 03:12 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (iJVGX)
Whatever, Jay. We're not all going to stand around, pull our collective puds, and wait while you study it - hoping you'll give us booger eaters the "all clear" sign.
Jay - get the notion that people are more than a little tired of various "experts" getting in the way of getting shit done ?
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (/fp1w)
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM
+++++
But W never fought back against the thugs and barbarians of the left.
Trump punches back twice as hard against them.
And that's what the really can't stand.
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (T09ml)
The plural of anecdote is not data.
The systematic controlled collection of anecdotes subject to proper scientific investigation is indeed data.
A bunch of anecdotes can be cherry picked, selection bias, etc.
That said, when people are dying, and you've got something that looks good, you go with it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (/fp1w) [i/]
My good man, we can't change course now, not until we get more data!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 07, 2020 03:14 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:14 PM (8fB/R)
The economy concerns wealth. Money is not wealth. In normal times, money can buy wealth, but it is not itself wealth. Wealth is stuff that you can use.
If two people wash ashore on a desert island, the guy with a Swiss Army knife is wealthy. The guy with a suitcase full of $100 bills is poor.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:14 PM (iJVGX)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:14 PM (8fB/R)
The systematic controlled collection of anecdotes subject to proper scientific investigation is indeed data.
A bunch of anecdotes can be cherry picked, selection bias, etc.
That said, when people are dying, and you've got something that looks good, you go with it.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (rCwaK)
This.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:14 PM (iJVGX)
Posted by: Hands at April 07, 2020 03:15 PM (786Ro)
Posted by: Anakin Skywalker: idiot at April 07, 2020 03:15 PM (MQ0v4)
Guy BFF in Atlanta just texted me:
"I used to spin that f*cking toilet roll like it was Wheel of Fortune. Now it's like I'm cracking a safe."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:15 PM (ptqGC)
...running out of loan money.
Trump: That's a good thing.
Asking for more. Yikes. And they are all smiling.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:16 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Hands at April 07, 2020 03:11 PM (786Ro)
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You just stated the entire goal of the Democratic Party's strategies.
To never have it cut both ways.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:16 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 03:16 PM (8JqLB)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:15 PM (ptqGC)
lol, we are being more careful too
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:16 PM (8fB/R)
In Gunnison, she decreed that even second-home owners were interlopers. The last we saw, she was headed for the edge of town with some dynamite, ranting about a rockslide on the road.
She seems nice.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)
Posted by: Richard at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (huaUe)
Posted by: mnw at April 07, 2020 03:05 PM
+++++
But W never fought back against the thugs and barbarians of the left.
Trump punches back twice as hard against them.
And that's what the really can't stand.
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (T09ml)
Bush also pretty much threw his lot in with the NeverTrumpers and made common cause with the people that called himself a War Criminal.
I lost all respect for W when after being mute through 8 years of Obama, he found cause to criticize Trump.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: Anakin Skywalker: idiot at April 07, 2020 03:15 PM (MQ0v4)
Comrade, in Russia, dying is always permitted...
although your family may have to pay for the bullet!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: CoolHand Luke at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (U2+zT)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:07 PM (8fB/R)
Link?
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (s6M7E)
Posted by: Ian S. at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)
Wouldn't be surprised if Cuomo is doing the same thing
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:07 PM (8fB/R)
Link?
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (s6M7E)
I was on Fox, but they just cut away when Kudlow started talking.
Going to go check c-span
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (8fB/R)
Wait... the science CAN'T be settled?!
*pouts in corner*
Posted by: Climate Scientists at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (G546f)
Posted by: ErikInTexas at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (mIJ9W)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (CqE5x)
Sidebar about 10 or 12 items down - The Tiger King Pitch meeting. Only thing I know about it, and quite honestly all I care to know about it.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (GhGb5)
Open America back up, PDT.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (ptqGC)
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It's the same economy of which they said if we spent more than 1/6 on making sure old people live that was "too much" back in 2009.
Libs aren't consistent. They don't understand economy. They don't understand opportunity cost.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (Eicbe)
Jay - get the notion that people are more than a little tired of various "experts" getting in the way of getting shit done ?
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:13 PM (/fp1w)
Maybe boogers cure the virus too. I know a guy who claims great success from them. He had the virus, ate a booger, and now he's fine.
So ... bon appetit!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (iJVGX)
It's over.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (MQ0v4)
The NY Slimes had a story that Trump is recommending hydroxychloroquine because he has a financial stake in it. His financial stake? A family trust owns a mutual fund that is invested in the company that makes it. Wow, it's just like he owns the company
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (SWPtj)
Posted by: Terence Malick at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (786Ro)
It's like a drowning man asking for the skipper to throw him a life preserver and the skipper telling him sorry, I only have a partially inflated life preserver, let me run below deck to fetch the air pump, it'll only take me a few minutes.
It's patently ridiculous but that's were some peoples heads are at.
Posted by: Inspector Johnson at April 07, 2020 03:20 PM (Gihrr)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:20 PM (MQ0v4)
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (Eicbe)
They're pretty damn consistent about wanting to be in charge of every facet of daily life.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:20 PM (/fp1w)
It's over.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (MQ0v4)
What was the main point?
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2020 03:20 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:17 PM (CqE5x)
Would anyone here bet against that?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at April 07, 2020 03:20 PM (miJU3)
It's over.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (MQ0v4)
They cut away on Kudlow.
Can't find it anywhere. Not even on Whitehouse.gov/live
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: SH at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (C0xFb)
Now Dr. Birx, armed with pretty Hermes scarves and actual facts, she can stay.
Posted by: LizLem at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (hvf9s)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (Ndje9)
I don't want to see Fauci's f*cking face anymore. I've had enough of that puffed-up gnome.
Open America back up, PDT.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:18 PM (ptqGC)
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+1
Posted by: ShainS at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (oJEPl)
Posted by: Anakin Skywalker: idiot at April 07, 2020 03:15 PM (MQ0v4)
Comrade, in Russia, dying is always permitted...
although your family may have to pay for the bullet!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar
That's China. Russia will cap you for free.
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (hAdu/)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (r+sAi)
Lock those reporters in a room and tell them they have been exposed but in accordance with their commentary they will be denied HCQ.
squeeeeeeeeeeeell
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (s6M7E)
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (lwiT4)
https://tinyurl.com/srm4x49
Joy doesn't have hair and makeup people while in quarantine. Sad!
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (iJVGX)
I'm in charge of three others plus me. If any of us get the Wuhan Flu, I'm getting my hands on some HCQ. I'll try legally first - but illegally if that's what it takes.
Get back to me once you've fully studied all the angles. Or, better yet, don't.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (/fp1w)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (SWPtj)
You're right but it doesn't matter. They established a "connection" between Trump and HDQ---and that's all the boobs need.
It's now a talking point for your liberal loser FB friends.
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: rickb223 at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (hAdu/)
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They're sweet guys like that.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (Eicbe)
Posted by: Tinfoilbaby at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (8JqLB)
Really, any of the jerks screaming about Trump and these pills needs to sign a pledge to NOT take it should they get ill, not allow family to take it. If it's serious enough of a concern to refer him to the Hague/ICC, then they wouldn't want to suicide themselves/murder their family by using it.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (r+sAi)
Ugh. Let me guess. They are wishing death on him while he goes back to being a doctor?
Posted by: IC at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Ian S.
Democrat Governor of Nevada keeps HCQ from his citizens so that they won't get hurt. The cure is worst than the disease. #SCIENCE H8rs.
For the Greater Good!!
Posted by: MSNBC, Not Crazy at April 07, 2020 03:23 PM (aANWo)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:23 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (r+sAi)
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Yeah, but why's he so negative?
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:23 PM (Eicbe)
They cut away on Kudlow.
Can't find it anywhere. Not even on Whitehouse.gov/live
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:21 PM (8fB/R)
CSPAN thinks too much Trump is bad.
Posted by: Braenyard at April 07, 2020 03:23 PM (s6M7E)
That's quite a scoop for the NYT.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (+0AKE)
Yeah, approximately $500 investment.
Seriously, that's it.
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Steve in SoCal at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (Ozpxd)
Posted by: creeper at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (XxJt1)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:23 PM (8fB/R)
Thank you.
Posted by: grammie winger at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (lwiT4)
But yeah, money is being dispensed quickly, almost out of money. Trump wants to open up the country soon, predicts big numbers due to pent up demand, Ivanka has nice tits, Mnuchin talked about handing out money and confirmed that money is being handed out.
That's all I got.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (MQ0v4)
They've blown through the $250B allocated for the Payroll Protection thing. They're gonna need another $250B stat.
We are at WWII levels of federal borrowing now in terms of fraction of GDP. And back then, the federal govt's total debt wasn't too bad. It's atrocious now.
Estimates are $3T net borrowing needed for 2020. Debt held by the public to GDP is gonna hit 99% by the end of 2020.
And the Fed is gonna have to monetize 1/3 of that issuance to keep it going.
Fed balance sheet itself is gonna reach around 40% of GDP before it's over.
We are through the Looking Glass, maybe crossed the event horizon in fiscal/monetary terms.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: notsothoreau at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (JKNZq)
Posted by: CN at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (ONvIw)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 07, 2020 03:22 PM (r+sAi)
I like Rand Paul. Sometimes I don't agree with him, but in general, he's okay.
Good for him. Putting himself out there. He survived it and hopefully the rumors that you can't get it again are true.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (8fB/R)
That's quite a scoop for the NYT.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (+0AKE)
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They'll just have to suppress all that other information.
Also, Soros must not pay that well if all he can get is screwups.
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (Eicbe)
It's as if they don't believe their own panic and warnings.
Posted by: Ripley at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (lHxjg)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 07, 2020 03:19 PM (SWPtj)
FORTY-FIVE generic drug manufacturers make it.
https://www.drugbank.ca/drugs/DB01611
FORTY. FIVE.
It's hard to believe that anyone ever took the NYT seriously. I'd sooner trust the National Enquirer.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (iJVGX)
Trump owns between $29 and $435 of Sanofi Stock
https://www.cernovich.com/sanofi-and-trump/
Posted by: Lizzy at April 07, 2020 03:26 PM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 07, 2020 03:26 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:26 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 07, 2020 03:25 PM (lHxjg)
In NJ they advertise on billboards like they are the lottery....
Posted by: JoeF. at April 07, 2020 03:26 PM (CqE5x)
Posted by: andycanuck at April 07, 2020 03:27 PM (TQ/zJ)
Posted by: Axeman at April 07, 2020 03:27 PM (Eicbe)
Do you understand the difference between an anecdotal study and a real, double-blind study?
Because it doesn't seem like it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2020 03:28 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at April 07, 2020 03:26 PM (ptqGC)
In all fairness, I would have nuked a few US cities by now. So she may have a point. I think the Magnificent Orange Bastard has been a tad bit slow on the button.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:28 PM (/fp1w)
A bunch of anecdotes can be cherry picked, selection bias, etc."
but if many doctors give it to all their patients that test positive, many other doctors do not give it to all their positives ... that is a good random trial ... not a clinical trial sure, but it is real data. The variables must be considered, but if the results are decisive enough, it eliminates/overwhelms the variables ... when it is black and white, (as with numbers I mentioned) ... then that overrides the need for perfect double blind studies (that can't be done in two weeks ... )
and yeah, the context is the compassion of trying what has worked, not waiting for the three year perfect study. So I've seen a lot of the data, it looks good, I want to see more details of the data ... it has to be out there.
Posted by: illiniwek at April 07, 2020 03:28 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN
Is that the new "Epstein didn't kill himself" ? Both true BTW.
Posted by: Ripley at April 07, 2020 03:28 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Captain Hate at April 07, 2020 03:28 PM (y7DUB)
We are through the Looking Glass, maybe crossed the event horizon in fiscal/monetary terms.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 07, 2020 03:24 PM (rCwaK)
There were no reach arounds in Event Horizon. Just disemboweling and face munching.
Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado-now with MOAR TP) at April 07, 2020 03:29 PM (N3El/)
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:06 PM (/fp1w)
This is weapons-grade stupid.
You have no idea what the scientific method is.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2020 03:30 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at April 07, 2020 03:30 PM (lHxjg)
Posted by: nip at April 07, 2020 03:30 PM (Izot6)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at April 07, 2020 03:31 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: Boorish Robot at April 07, 2020 03:31 PM (NGPuE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at April 07, 2020 03:28 PM (dLLD6)
Of course - I work in industry. Double-blind studies are the Holy Grail - the Magical Unicorn - of industry.
Waiting on a perfect double-blind study, in the real world, means waiting forever. Because every data point assembled across any industrial study really, really is an anecdote. Tools and methods are different, biases come with the territory, and you either use that or you use nothing at all - but that's all you have.
Yet - we do it all the time. And believe it or not - if we fuck up big enough - people die. Yet, if we do nothing, sometimes people die because of that as well.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:32 PM (/fp1w)
Do you pay your own loan back? No, is the short answer.
Posted by: nip at April 07, 2020 03:32 PM (Izot6)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at April 07, 2020 03:33 PM (8fB/R)
Posted by: Crusader at April 07, 2020 03:34 PM (ewSN2)
Same as...well, you know.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at April 07, 2020 03:35 PM (Ndje9)
Never mind if HCQ is useless it's still not a crime against humanity. If it has any efficacy at all it's better than nothing which is the current alternative. Never mind any of that. The most troubling thing about this insanity is not how insane it is. It's how many people agree with the insanity and go even further with it in their thinking.
My hopes of avoiding a large scale violent conflict are quickly evaporating. When you have this level political psychosis in the main steam, the radicals are already ready and willing to use violence and are just waiting for the proper context.
Posted by: mikethemoose at April 07, 2020 03:36 PM (Y6UV7)
Again let me state that in an emergency situation when people are dying, you go with good looking anecdotes, and do the science later. Especially in this case when the drug has a known safety profile.
Now, the medical record is chock full of cases where doctors, in their own practices thought some drug or treatment was very good, they saw results. But when subjected to proper analysis, it proved to be "no better than placebo".
The are tons and tons of those. What happens? Selection bias. Docs get great feedback from patients who appear to be helped by the treatment.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at April 07, 2020 03:38 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at April 07, 2020 03:39 PM (dYe5S)
it has any efficacy at all it's better than nothing which is the
current alternative.
I'll take your point a step further. Let's pretend that HCQ is no more effective than a placebo.
So what ? If people are asking for it - and it increases the survival rate in any measurable amount - why not provide it ?
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:39 PM (/fp1w)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 07, 2020 03:49 PM (H5knJ)
fact when it comes to medical case reports. This is epidemiology 101.
And what we're seeing this time is what we always see, time and time and time again.
Epidemiologists should not have exclusive domain over epidemiology. The experts should not be left to their own devices. Somebody has to watch the watchers.
Epidemiologists see their own tree - quite clearly. They have no better view of the forest than anybody else.
Posted by: I Am No One at April 07, 2020 03:53 PM (/fp1w)
Posted by: trump at April 07, 2020 03:53 PM (GSJcT)
Posted by: An Observation at April 07, 2020 04:01 PM (aG51M)
Posted by: Techie at April 07, 2020 04:04 PM (9HR8n)
Are not these fuckers all about euthanasia?
Are they not familiar with the seriousness of damned if you do damned if you do not?
Hats off to Christoper Reeve and others with that level of tenacity, by fuck that.
As Vinny Barbarino said, gimme drugs.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at April 07, 2020 04:04 PM (KpUZP)
Posted by: Squid_Hunt at April 07, 2020 04:05 PM (S5OQe)
Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin have a risk of permanent side effects or death, taken short-term for a few weeks, at recommended doses of:
Nil
Posted by: Techie at April 07, 2020 04:05 PM (9HR8n)
Fifty dollar treatment with pills or thirty five thousand dollar machines that create dependence on more machines and more expensive pills.
Hmmmm
Posted by: Mr. Burns at April 07, 2020 04:07 PM (KpUZP)
Posted by: Techie at April 07, 2020 04:07 PM (9HR8n)
I explained how to correctly handle Anecdotal Evidence here two days ago.
Chloroquine is not experimental or unproven. It was proven effective against the SARS coronavirus 15 years ago. There is no reason to believe that it doesn't work against the Chinese coronavirus through the same mechanisms described in this National Institute of Health paper in the Journal of Virology
https://tinyurl.com/vjylndz
Posted by: An Observation at April 07, 2020 04:10 PM (aG51M)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 07, 2020 04:16 PM (l2bVb)
It's ample observational data from multiple centers, and and sends up a huge flag that this drug combo works
Posted by: Techie at April 07, 2020 04:20 PM (TnwAJ)
"The plural of anecdote is not data" is not a cliche, it's a scientific
fact when it comes to medical case reports. This is epidemiology 101.
You can find it stated in any number of neutral sources predating this
pandemic.
What would you like your level of confidence to be? 95% - so that it matches standard excepted scientific norms?
OK, assume each piece of Anecdotal evidence has only a .1% chance of being correct - after all if the drug really does work the probability that the anecdotal evidence was correct approaches 100% doesn't it? So treat each piece of anecdotal evidence as an uncorrelated signal. Raise the .999 chance of the anecdotal evidence being wrong to the Nth power where N is the number of anecdotes. At N = 3000 there is less than a 5% chance that all of the Anecdotes are wrong - which means there is a 95% chance they were correct.
Posted by: An Observation at April 07, 2020 04:36 PM (aG51M)
Posted by: Tamaa the Drongo Bird at April 07, 2020 04:49 PM (FLiOE)
She should be charged with crimes against humanity.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at April 07, 2020 05:02 PM (KpUZP)
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