Saturday Evening Movie Thread 04-04-2020 [TheJamesMadison]

The Ace of Spades Saturday Evening Movie Thread Best Movie of the Year Goes to...

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Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood, the love letter to 1969 Hollywood and hippy punching from Quentin Tarantino.

I called Mr. Tarantino on his personal line and he greeted the great news with such exclamations as, "How did you get this number?" and "Go f yourself, you creep."

He was greatly appreciative.

Mr. Tarantino joins the ranks of the Coen Brothers and Christopher Nolan as winners of this award. Ampersands have been sent via UPS.

Quentin Tarantino

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I'll take this opportunity, given Tarantino's win, to write a bit about him as a filmmaker.

I love Tarantino. I don't think he's made a bad film. His worst film, Death Proof is still entertaining if not quite where it could be. He's a massive film nerd and has an encyclopedic knowledge of cinema and its history that makes my own personal knowledge seem infantile by comparison. That massive knowledge bank manifests in several different ways.

Connecting this to my last post, Tarantino actually got very early direct encouragement from Terry Gilliam. Gilliam, as an established filmmaker, took part as a mentor in a seminar for up and coming filmmakers, one of whom was Quentin Tarantino. Tarantino came with the script for Reservoir Dogs, and, of the three mentors assigned to him, Gilliam was the only one who seemed to understand what Tarantino was trying to do.

Reservoir Dogs wasn't the movie that made Tarantino, though, that was, of course, Pulp Fiction, the intelligent and highly entertaining crime comedic drama heist film that jumped between several different timelines, creating a world of characters using highly entertaining dialogue. He followed up with Jackie Brown, Kill Bill, Death Proof, Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained, The Hateful Eight, and finally Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood.

Pastiche

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One criticism that gets leveled at Tarantino a lot by his detractors is his unoriginality because his movies are so filled with references to other, earlier works that they feel his work doesn't have a life of its own, that without the references, there'd be nothing there. And there's no denying the references and, to expand it slightly, the fact that Tarantino largely works in pastiche. He's mimicking the things he loved before, but to say that that is the limit of his work is a disservice to his talent and the actual work he outputs.

The title of Django Unchained is a reference to a series of Spaghetti Westerns starring Franco Nero about his titular character Django (who makes a reference as another character in Tarantino's film). And yet, to limit Django to just a rehash of Spaghetti Westerns is to ignore a lot of what goes on in the film.

You could say the same thing about Kill Bill and its Kung Fu influences or Inglourious Basterds (another title that's a reference to a previous movie, Inglorious Bastards) and its World War II movie influences. Yes, they are there and they are prevalent, but if that's all that one is seeing, then one is missing the forest for the trees.

Character

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When talking about characters on the Opie and Anthony show, Tarantino talks about how the characters in his movie arise from his DNA, about how writing the best character is one of the most important things to him, and I think it shines through in his films. It's also what makes his movies stand apart as more than just flash in the pan pastiches that only film nerds can appreciate. If you needed to get the reference in Calvin Candie getting shot through the flower on his lapel relating back to Jack Palance getting shot through the same rose in The Mercenary, then the moment wouldn't work for anyone who hadn't both seen The Mercenary and could recall that fact in the moment. What makes it work is the fact that Calvin Candie is a great character and villain, that Dr. Schultz, the man who shoots Candie, is such a well written character where his decision makes perfect sense in the moment. The reference is fun for those who get it, but it's not required. What makes the moment work dramatically is the work that Tarantino has put into characters (through both writing and everything around the actors) leading up to that moment so that such a large dramatic turn in the film ends up both surprising the audience and making perfect sense to them at the same time.

And it's obvious that Tarantino puts the time into the characters. From writing, to casting, to directing, to editing, his movies feel like they were made for the characters. The worlds of the movies feel like playgrounds for Tarantino to have them run around which is why we're allowed so much time in them and his movies tend to run long. The dialogue, punctuated by profanity, feels natural without really aging. Even the first major speech in a Tarantino film (given by Tarantino himself as Mr. Brown) is about a piece of popular music ("Like a Virgin" by Madonna) and it doesn't feel dated even now because it's about more than just a reference to a song released in 1984, eight years before Reservoir Dogs came out, but because he makes it about a character revealing himself (essentially Mr. Brown's only real character moment). Suddenly, Mr. Brown isn't just that Tarantino cameo, he feels like a character whose life extends beyond the borders of the plot of the film.

Theme

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As with most directors, Tarantino has a certain set of ideas that he revisits through his films. Where Hitchcock focused on voyeurism and Gilliam focuses on fantasy, Tarantino's is the breakdown of codes of honor into revenge. From Reservoir Dogs to Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood, revenge comes up as at least a minor part of the film. Mr. White killing Mr. Orange after Mr. Orange reveals his true identity, bleeding out, is revenge for what Mr. White sees as a betrayal of the code he assumed was between them. Kill Bill is all about one woman's revenge against the men and women who destroyed her new life and left her for dead. His revisionist history films (Inglourious Basterds, Django Unchained, The Hateful Eight, and Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood) are all about Tarantino using his single tool of cinema to try and write what he sees as the wrongs of history.

And it's pretty obvious that Tarantino is pretty pro-revenge when someone betrays a code. Just to take Kill Bill as the main example, the Bride goes through two movies, dozens of Yakuza, and four highly trained hitmen to reach her main target, Bill. In particular, Bill was supposed to treat the Bride a certain way. It was implied that their relationship precluded the Bride from bloody vengeance, but Bill betrays that understood code. When she finally completes her long quest, she's seen as whole for the first time in the film. She was always missing something, and that something was her little girl, BeeBee whom Bill had stolen from her while she was in her four year long coma. Could she have just taken BeeBee from Bill without killing him? No, she couldn't have. In order to live the life she felt she deserved, with her daughter, Bill could not be alive. If she were to leave him alive, she'd never be at rest, always on the run. The only way forward was to kill her past since her past was never going to leave her alone.

And I have to say, that watching the Bride break down and cry in one of her only emotionally unguarded moments of the film on the floor of the bathroom in that little hotel room with BeeBee watching cartoons on the other side of the door, is one of the most emotionally satisfying things Tarantino ever pulled off. Are there lessons to be learned about life from the film? Probably not, but the point wasn't life lessons for us, it was to get us emotionally involved in the Bride's journey so that when she feels that wave of relief we can feel it along with her.

Dialogue

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I would be remiss talking about Tarantino as a filmmaker without dedicating a bit more time to talking about his dialogue. Chris Tucker is renowned for ad lib on every movie, using the scripts as general guidelines as he said whatever he wanted, but he did the words of his character Beaumont that Tarantino had written word for word.

Tarantino's dialogue is fun. It's fast, intelligent, and profane all at once.

Do you know why the Royale with Cheese scene works in Pulp Fiction? It's not just because it's an amusing conversation, it's because that's how we get to know the first information dump about Jules Winnfield and Vincent Vega. Instead of simple expository statements about how Vincent had lived in Amsterdam for their boss, Marcellus Wallace, we get a realistic little conversation that highlights Vincent's views of Amsterdam that tells us so much more about him than where he's been for the last few years. We learn of his affinity for recreational drug use, his prototypical ugly American attitude while abroad, and that he has a certain worldliness that he may be trying to hide. It's not just amusing, it's insightful as well.

Nihilism

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I've seen Tarantino described as nihilistic, and I honestly don't know where that opinion comes from, but I want to take a moment to address it. Tarantino loves to wallow in violence and gore, but he's not someone who writes movies about how nothing has any meaning and there should be no morality (that would be Lars Von Trier whose movie Melancholia I watched recently and it's on my mind). I think his love of violence and gore is window dressing on what is ultimately a very humanist philosophy about the worth of human life.

I would normally talk about Kill Bill here, but since I used the exact scene I would normally talk about when talking about character, I'll use Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood as my example.

Tarantino's revisionist histories are him trying to mete out cosmic justice using cinema, and the subject of his ire in his latest film is the Manson Family, the hippie commune/cult that murdered Sharon Tate in 1969. Amidst all the luxurious details of life in 1969 Hollywood is the undercurrent of violence represented by the seemingly happy go lucky young females of the Manson Family. If Tarantino were a nihilist, he wouldn't be using his film to correct the historical wrong of Sharon Tate's murder, he would, at best, express no opinion about it, but instead he uses his film as revenge upon those who did wrong. He has the three cultists who show up at Rick Dalton's house (in a last second decision that turns them from their historical purpose to the cinematic one) where Cliff Booth and his pitbull violently murder two of the three, leaving the third bleeding from the face so that Rick Dalton can burn her alive with his flamethrower left over from his earlier World War II motion picture, The 14 Fists of McCluskey. Sharon Tate gets to live on, even providing Rick Dalton an implied career boost as thanks.

I think you can see there the odd mix of rampant violence and surprisingly gentle humanism at the core of Tarantino's work.

Always Learning

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Probably the most surprising thing about Tarantino to me is how he went from directing Jackie Brown a wonderful and surprising little crime caper and blaxploitation pastiche without a single action scene to directing Kill Bill, one of the greatest action movies ever made. That's because he is surprisingly self-aware as an artist, understanding his own limits, and finding those people who can help him learn what he needs to learn.

Bringing this back to the beginning and Terry Gilliam, one piece of advice that Gilliam, as a mentor before Reservoir Dogs was more than a script, gave Tarantino was that he was never going to know everything about making a film. Instead of trying for the impossible goal of doing every job in order to figure out how to make his vision come to life, it was about hiring the right people who he could explain his vision to who would then make that vision a reality.

From Sally Menke, his editor through all of his films until her death in 2010, to Yuen Woo-Ping, the fight choreographer on Kill Bill, to his bevy of regular actors like Samuel L. Jackson, Christoph Waltz, and Uma Thurman, Tarantino has surrounded himself with people who are very good at what they do and that he can communicate with. Most directors do this, but I think it's important to note it with Tarantino since he seems to have a know-it-all reputation though he's actually very generous in his praise for those he works with when you actually listen to him.

In Conclusion

So, those are my thoughts on Tarantino in a nutshell, a 2,000 word nutshell. I think his filmography is great, and it goes far beyond anything resembling a "cool factor". He's talented, hard-working, and very good at what he does. He writes great characters with great dialogue and places them in stories that are steeped in film history and worlds that feel alive and expansive.

I also hope that he decides to do more than 10 movies, unlike his long promised retirement after the tenth. He should be making movies into his 80s like Bergman, Scott, and Kurosawa.

Movies of Today

Opening in Theaters:
Nothin'. There's a virus, dontcha know.

Next in my Netflix Queue:
Chisum

Movies I Saw This Fortnight:
Alice in Wonderland (Rating 0.5/4) Full Review "This is easily Tim Burton's worst film." [STARZ]
The Last Emperor (Rating 4/4) Full Review "The movie is sumptuous visually, compellingly acted, intimately involved in the history of the country, grand in scale, and intimate in scope. It's a triumph of cinema and one of the best movies of the 80s." [Personal Collection]
Kes (Rating 4/4) Full Review "The movie is a marvelous triumph of independent British cinema. It's intelligently filmed, using the setting with its rolling hills and coal mine in great contradistinctive ways. The acting is naturalistic and feels perfectly in place. Through it all is a clear emotional story that resonates. I love this film." [Personal Collection]
Airport (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Now, a note on my backwards viewing. It's really interesting to watch the ridiculousness toned down with every movie instead of turned up. I kind of wish there was a series of films that went this direction for real, but I kind of want to try this again." [Netflix DVD]
The Hunt for Red October (Rating 4/4) Full Review "It's exciting, really well made, well-acted, and intelligent. It's not only comfort watching, but high quality entertainment as well." [Personal Collection]
Monster House (Rating 3.5/4) Full Review "The movie is actually really fun, appropriate for young kids, and a good introduction to horror filmmaking to them." [Netflix Instant]
The Farmer's Wife (Rating 3/4) Full Review "Still, it's airy, light, and fun. A delightful little romantic comedy that attacks the viewer with several different types of comedy well. It's a fun diversion and another small victory for Hitchcock early in his burgeoning career." [YouTube]
The Lone Ranger (Rating 2/4) Full Review "The final action scene is almost worth the price of admission alone. If the movie were about 45 minutes shorter, I'd say that it was definitely worth the price of admission alone." [STARZ]

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Comments

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1 Movie sign!

Literally. I'm watching MST3K's "Ator, the Fighting Eagle". Hoooooboy!

How much Keeffe we got? Miles O'Keeffe

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 07:54 PM (Dc2NZ)

2 The flamethrower scene in "Once Upon a Time..." is straight outta "The Thing". Awesomely gruesome.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 07:56 PM (Dc2NZ)

3 Trifecta!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 07:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

4 Ah trying to sneak in early

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 07:58 PM (ZCEU2)

5 buonasera

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (G546f)

6 Watched on TCM yesterday afternoon Seven Samurai, but 45 minutes to go there was a screeching sound then the sound went off. Tried stopping and restarting but sound never came back on. Luckily was subtitles so just went with it to the end. Had to be on their end.

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (ZCEU2)

7 I was watching the good, the bad and the ugly last night and I was thinking the final scene music was used in Kill Bill. Not gonna look it up. But it reminded me of the snow fight scene.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

8 Where's Bander? He's a Tarantino Superfanboi.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

9 Whoa dude, you almost convinced me to watch Tarantino!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (BiNEL)

10 7 I was watching the good, the bad and the ugly last night and I was thinking the final scene music was used in Kill Bill. Not gonna look it up. But it reminded me of the snow fight scene.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

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Tarantino sourced a lot of Morricone music through his movies.

The only one with an original score was The Hateful Eight, which was written by...Ennio Morricone.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:02 PM (zZbCU)

11 Mr. White. Racist

Posted by: Luke Jackson at April 04, 2020 08:02 PM (PhLl4)

12 9 Whoa dude, you almost convinced me to watch Tarantino!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (BiNEL)

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Baby steps.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:02 PM (zZbCU)

13 I'm watching Wanted a 2008 comic book film starring Angelina Jolie, James Macovoy and Morgan Freeman.
It's amusing in a comic book kind of way.
I'm slightly suprised that this is the first Angelina Jolie movie I've seen.
Considering how recognizable she is I think I would seen one of her movies before.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at April 04, 2020 08:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

14 I only went to see "Once Upon a Time ... In Hollywood" because my daughter urged me to - promising me that there was only a little gore, and it was in just the right place, and the whole movie was marvelous.

She was right. I was 17 in 1969 and the recreation of the period was so exact it was almost suffocating. And the whole bit with the Manson girls and the flamethrower was ... cathartic.


Posted by: Annalucia at April 04, 2020 08:03 PM (S6ArX)

15 14 I only went to see "Once Upon a Time ... In Hollywood" because my daughter urged me to - promising me that there was only a little gore, and it was in just the right place, and the whole movie was marvelous.

She was right. I was 17 in 1969 and the recreation of the period was so exact it was almost suffocating. And the whole bit with the Manson girls and the flamethrower was ... cathartic.


Posted by: Annalucia at April 04, 2020 08:03 PM (S6ArX)

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She screamed really loudly. And she deserved it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:03 PM (zZbCU)

16 Hey everybody. Yay movie thread! Thanks TJM!

Just out of curiosity, was your copy of Kes from the Criterion Collection? They've had it available for a few years now.

Also I just read, although it's gonna be expensive, Sony/Columbia is releasing a box set of their movies in July, all remastered in 4k. The movies in the set are:

- Dr Strangelove
- Mr Smith Goes To Washington
- Lawrence Of Arabia
- A League Of Their Own
- Gandhi
- Jerry Maguire

...I'd like to get it just for Dr Strangelove and Lawrence of Arabia in 4k. Hopefully/likely, each of the individual titles will be released separately in 4k editions.

Also I'm debating whether it's worth it to get Scarface in 4k. I still recall that DePalma left in a ton of film grain on that pic.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:04 PM (L2ZTs)

17 I am hoping there's a 4k edition of Full Metal Jacket soon.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)

18 Last new movie I watched was Jojo Rabbit
KTY bailed after 10 minutes but I liked it

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:05 PM (G546f)

19 I have to disagree about Deathproof being one of his worst. The car chase scene is one of the tightest and most frightening evah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0bDdMJbtx8

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:05 PM (Dc2NZ)

20 I liked Once Upon etc. I do not like all of Tarantino's movies, but this one was neat.

I've tried for years to like Pulp Fiction, but it skeeves me out a little beyond that threshold. It does have excellent moments, but in the end I just can't like it.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:06 PM (x8Wzq)

21 16 Hey everybody. Yay movie thread! Thanks TJM!

Just out of curiosity, was your copy of Kes from the Criterion Collection? They've had it available for a few years now.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:04 PM (L2ZTs)

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Yeah, it was the Criterion edition. For a 50 year old independent film, it looks really good.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:06 PM (zZbCU)

22 19 I have to disagree about Deathproof being one of his worst. The car chase scene is one of the tightest and most frightening evah:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0bDdMJbtx8
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:05 PM (Dc2NZ)

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It's a quality action scene, but the movie leading up to it doesn't match up.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:06 PM (zZbCU)

23 I find the Movie Thread, as I do the Art Thread, a chance to peek into the world of people that really enjoy pursuing a subject, studying it carefully, beating it to death, and then throwing it out for lesser mortals to view.

And I enjoy every one of both themes, because I am convinced that when you stop learning, you die internally!

Thanks TJM!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:07 PM (BiNEL)

24 TJM, thanks.

I've been getting emails from Criterion lately stating all their films are on sale at their site. They obviously are doing their best to ride out the CV lockdown as best they can.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:07 PM (L2ZTs)

25 I loved "Once upon a time..." and was surprised to see how much of the detail in the movie corresponded to the reality.

Posted by: vivi at April 04, 2020 08:08 PM (11H2y)

26 is Hateful Eight good?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:08 PM (G546f)

27 I think Tarantino's stuff is a mixed bag, but "OUATIH" was a masterpiece. The way it started as a time capsule of old Hollywood, yet it had this sense of menace and dread once the Manson Family was introduced. And then Brad Pitt and that walking muscle of a dog kicked the holy fuck out of them.

Since we're talking movies, "Shot Caller" is on Netflix, and I would recommend it highly.

Posted by: UGAdawg at April 04, 2020 08:08 PM (tRd71)

28 24 TJM, thanks.

I've been getting emails from Criterion lately stating all their films are on sale at their site. They obviously are doing their best to ride out the CV lockdown as best they can.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:07 PM (L2ZTs)

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It's a 30% discount, bringing them down to Amazon prices. I wasn't that excited when I found out.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:09 PM (zZbCU)

29 It's a quality action scene, but the movie leading up to it doesn't match up.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:06 PM (zZbCU)
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THere was a movie attached to it?

Eh, I liked it.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:09 PM (Dc2NZ)

30 26 is Hateful Eight good?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:08 PM (G546f)

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It's my favorite, but many people's least favorite.

Everyone is awful and, well, hateful.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:09 PM (zZbCU)

31 oh good news! Hubby swapped the cracked screen tv out or the older one upstairs - smaller but still good

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:09 PM (G546f)

32 One thing funny about Once Upon a Time is that the guy who played Manson in that one weird short scene was the guy who played Dewey Crowe in Justified.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (x8Wzq)

33 I liked Reservoir Dogs.

Fat ass Chris Penn could act! And he looked good in that track suit!

And he actually sang in "The Funeral". Unlike his brother. Not Sean, the other one. Plus he fucked that wannabe hooker in the ass in the alleyway in that movie for five bucks, so that was nice.

But he couldn't do drugs worth a damn, so he's dead now.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (Z+IKu)

34 That was some glorious acting in the first scene of "Inglorious Basterds'' I wonder if Tarantino did much directing or just let the actors go with it?

Posted by: Tuna at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (gLRfa)

35 TJM, agreed but still decent prices IMHO.
Although B&N's sales on Criterion are the best.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)

36 hiya

Posted by: JT at April 04, 2020 08:11 PM (arJlL)

37 26 is Hateful Eight good?
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Vmom, it's about the middle of the Tarantino stack for me, but I appreciate that it's basically a stage play with some wonderfully baroque western dialogue.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:11 PM (Dc2NZ)

38 so Joann's took my order this morning but no word on when I can pick up
hoping for Monday

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:11 PM (G546f)

39
Shoulda called David French and asked if David Lee Roth was "inna house". Reports say thst French gets a boy boner whenever that happens.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 04, 2020 08:12 PM (pNxlR)

40 TJM, interesting you like The Hateful Eight.

I remember constantly reading how talky it is.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)

41 I won't watch Django Unchained because I despise Jamie Foxx, utterly. My movie-loving brother asked if I would have seen it if, say, Denzel Washington was in it, and I hell yeah.

there are some actors I simply refuse to watch.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:12 PM (x8Wzq)

42 My two favorite Tarantino films, by far, are "Jackie Brown" and "Resevoir Dogs."

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 04, 2020 08:12 PM (WEBkv)

43 35 TJM, agreed but still decent prices IMHO.
Although B&N's sales on Criterion are the best.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)

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I like Criterion's own sales.

50% off, and every purchase gets counted as points. At 500, you get a $50 gift card.

I still have points from purchases I made 5 years ago. I was just never in a space to spend enough at one time to get free shipping ($50).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:12 PM (zZbCU)

44 I admit for me, my all-time fave Tarantino is still his first: Reservoir Dogs. Inglorious Basterds is my second fave.

I have Grindhouse but need to still watch it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:13 PM (L2ZTs)

45 Tarantino frustrates me. All too often he doesn't know how to end movies. His recent forays into trying to rewrite history don't interest me at all. Inglourious Basterds would have been better as two movies: a taut thriller called Shosanna and a rollicking WW2 action adventure movie called Inglourious Basterds.
He's good at what he does, but he needs someone to tell him "no".

Posted by: Viridian at April 04, 2020 08:13 PM (anGdJ)

46 Since our host has written more than once on the importance of music in the movies, I thought I'd mention that the Review section in today's Wall Street Journal reviews a new book on the life and music of Max Steiner. Steiner was Viennese-born, of Jewish descent, who emigrated to the US in the 20s and worked in musical comedy, before being recruited by Hollywood as it was switching to making talkies. Among his best-known scores are those for "Casablanca", "King Kong", and "Gone With the Wind". Steiner and his colleague, Eric Wolfgang Korngold, created the "Warner Bros. sound" in music: brassy, upbeat, lush - unmistakable. It sounds an outstanding book; my copy is on order, but Amazon is so backed up that it will quite a while before I get my copy.

Posted by: Brown Line at April 04, 2020 08:13 PM (S6ArX)

47 Here's a tough question (maybe for some), but if you could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino and the Cohen Brothers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:13 PM (r+sAi)

48 he makes it about a character revealing himself (essentially Mr. Brown's only real character moment). Suddenly, Mr. Brown isn't just that Tarantino cameo, he feels like a character whose life extends beyond the borders of the plot of the film.

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I saw some smart guy on CSPN Book TV talking about The Illiad. He said that part of what makes it great is that it does two contradictory simultaneously. On the one hand, he shows the spectacle and glory of combat. On the other hand, Homef gives even minor characters who appear only to be killed in a gruesome and explicit fashion by a hero a backstory. So and so was a shepherd who was raised by his loving parents on the plains of grass and left to find adventure but whose lung is now pierced by Ajax' well-thrown spear and whose life trickles out with his blood before the walls of Troy. The glory, the horror, and the tragedy all in one.

Yeah, Homer is OK but what's he done lately?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 04, 2020 08:14 PM (+y/Ru)

49 Excellent post
Also I'd have to put "Death Proof" among my favorite QT films

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:14 PM (iTXRQ)

50 Pug, did you see this story about Jamie Foxx from a few years ago?

https://abc7.com/jamie-foxx-rescue-car-crash/1165185/

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:14 PM (L2ZTs)

51 Here's a tough question (maybe for some), but if you could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino and the Cohen Brothers.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:13 PM (r+sAi)
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I'd have to agree with this.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at April 04, 2020 08:14 PM (WEBkv)

52 46 Since our host has written more than once on the importance of music in the movies, I thought I'd mention that the Review section in today's Wall Street Journal reviews a new book on the life and music of Max Steiner. Steiner was Viennese-born, of Jewish descent, who emigrated to the US in the 20s and worked in musical comedy, before being recruited by Hollywood as it was switching to making talkies. Among his best-known scores are those for "Casablanca", "King Kong", and "Gone With the Wind". Steiner and his colleague, Eric Wolfgang Korngold, created the "Warner Bros. sound" in music: brassy, upbeat, lush - unmistakable. It sounds an outstanding book; my copy is on order, but Amazon is so backed up that it will quite a while before I get my copy.
Posted by: Brown Line at April 04, 2020 08:13 PM (S6ArX)

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Weird coincidence, but I watched the Randolph Scott version of The Last of the Mohicans earlier today, and they used a bunch of Steiner's King Kong score in it. Every action scene is straight from Kong.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (zZbCU)

53 32 One thing funny about Once Upon a Time is that the guy who played Manson in that one weird short scene was the guy who played Dewey Crowe in Justified.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (x8Wzq)

He also played Manson in Mind Hunters

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (G546f)

54 I don't think I ever saw Reservoir Dogs

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (ZCEU2)

55 I love Discogs for CDs. Whatever I can't find at Amazon, I can find there new or used, even if it's sometimes expensive and I have to put off buying things.

I wish there was a Discogs for blu-rays and DVDs. eBay sorta/kinda works but just seems a lot more grimy, weird and squirrely than it used to be.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:16 PM (L2ZTs)

56 54 I don't think I ever saw Reservoir Dogs
Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (ZCEU2)

me either
I wonder if Netflix has it

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:17 PM (G546f)

57 I read a story at another site that thanks to the CV outbreak, drive-in movie theaters are due for a big comeback this summer.

Hoping it's so. I admit if I had venture capitalist money, I'd probably spend some to give one a go.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:17 PM (L2ZTs)

58 He also played Manson in Mind Hunters
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (G546f)

Huh. May go look for that. I like that guy. He's an Aussie, but I'm blanking on his name, and Bing is way over there. Damon? Damien?

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:18 PM (x8Wzq)

59 >Weird coincidence, but I watched the Randolph Scott version of T


RANDOLPH SCOTT

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:19 PM (iTXRQ)

60 I saw Zombieland II a few days ago. It was OK but not as good as the original. Hint: sit through the credits.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 04, 2020 08:19 PM (+y/Ru)

61 used a bunch of Steiner's King Kong score in it. Every action scene is straight from Kong.

As a kid watching old movies on tv circa 60s noticed that the same or similar music was used whether injuns was attacking on hosses or japs was dive bombing zeros.
TAN TAN TAN TAN TAN-TAN-TAN

Posted by: getting the bannex back together watching london at midnight at April 04, 2020 08:19 PM (lujCI)

62 59 >Weird coincidence, but I watched the Randolph Scott version of T


RANDOLPH SCOTT
Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:19 PM (iTXRQ)

============

I kept singing that in my head as I watched.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:19 PM (zZbCU)

63 Dewey Crowe is one of the great t.v. idiots.

All he wanted was a pool and two chicks at once!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:20 PM (Dc2NZ)

64 Here's a tough question (maybe for some), but if you could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino and the Cohen Brothers.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk


***

Huston and Hitchcock.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2020 08:20 PM (axyOa)

65 True Romance is my favorite Tarantino screenplay.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:20 PM (2DOZq)

66
Hoping it's so. I admit if I had venture capitalist money, I'd probably spend some to give one a go.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:17 PM (L2ZTs)

Ditto! Maybe I should start looking at property. Joint
venture.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2020 08:20 PM (vF+fs)

67 Yeah, Homer is OK but what's he done lately?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 04, 2020 08:14 PM (+y/Ru)


Hey, give him a break.

Posted by: Bill Shakespeare at April 04, 2020 08:20 PM (L2ZTs)

68 Infidel, I might be able to purchase 1% :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (L2ZTs)

69 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (Zz0t1)

70 I'm pretty much a Tarantino newb -- only watched Pulp Fiction and the first half of Kill Bill. Need to watch more. Kill Bill's first half did not make a big impression, but I treasure Pulp Fiction, and often find myself thinking of many of its scenes. A masterpiece, in my view, though I found parts of his cameo a bit cringey. Not "oak's nice," though, which was somehow perfect.

The whole Travolta-returns-home-with-Uma scene is so evocative; the song, the atmosphere, the dialogue, and where it went, just remarkable.

I think part of what's kept me from seeing more is that every time there's a new Tarantino, there seem to be a chorus of voices saying that it completely sucks.

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (dOV9E)

71 Friendly reminder:

https://youtu.be/L3tnH4FGbd0

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (Zz0t1)

72
Yeah, Homer is OK but what's he done lately?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler


He sang with Jethro.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (aKsyK)

73 Mr. Tarantino joins the ranks of the Coen Brothers and Christopher Nolan as winners of this award. Ampersands have been sent via UPS.

I'm curious why my name isn't mentioned here, TJM, given your exuberant and well-known passion for one of my works.

Posted by: Ridley Scott at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (DMUuz)

74 I saw Inglorious Bastards. Where it had it's moments, I thought it overall, sucked.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:22 PM (Zz0t1)

75 I used to like Reservoir Dogs, Jackie Brown, and Pulp Fiction in that order. I am off the guy as I no longer see the art I once did. For sure he is talented and good at his craft. The value of that craft eludes me these days.

He does revenge porn and he tries to right the wrongs of history that is true. But he is mainly teaching many all the "history" they will get on a given subject. Sure it is not his job to educate society, but he only makes division worse since his main goal is to create division and exploit it.

At least Scorsese at his most violent shined a light on worlds that existed and we would have never known about. He showed us history as interpreted by him. Tarantino has no greater point that I can see than his own ego. Sure it is art but I don't want any more. No mas.

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood intrigues me a bit though. I will probably check that one out.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:22 PM (hHxp2)

76 Also important to Tarentino is the soundtrack.

"Girl, you'll be a woman soon"

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 04, 2020 08:22 PM (ykYG2)

77 hang on, isn't From.Dusk Til Dawn considered a Tarantino film?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:22 PM (G546f)

78 I have the impression it's not hard to meet QT in person if you visit his theater in Hollywood.

Not sure how often he's there, however.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:22 PM (L2ZTs)

79 73 Mr. Tarantino joins the ranks of the Coen Brothers and Christopher Nolan as winners of this award. Ampersands have been sent via UPS.

I'm curious why my name isn't mentioned here, TJM, given your exuberant and well-known passion for one of my works.
Posted by: Ridley Scott at April 04, 2020 08:21 PM (DMUuz)

==========

You'd share them all with Terrence Malick if it were only up to me.

But I don't nominate anything and I don't vote.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM (zZbCU)

80 My only disagreement here was with Monster House. I can't really remember why I didn't like it, just that I didn't.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM (ykYG2)

81 "God came down from heaven and stopped these muh-fuggin' bullets."

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM (iTXRQ)

82 Critical Drinker, "Alien Covenant - Why Does This Movie Exist?":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0TUESAL5Y

I'm watching it for the first time.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM (Dc2NZ)

83 Hoss, you couldn't be more wrong about Tarantino and his "talent." In every generation, there's guys - author, movie guy, politician - who All The Critics In New York and L.A. assure us are, like, super-talented and so far above us mere mortals that if you can't see it you must be a mouthbreathing inbred rube. (pro tip: generally, they're secretly kinda hugely overrated no-talent hacks)

Examples of this, off the top of my head, are Springsteen, Scorcese, Tennesse Coates, Nicole Kidman, Obama, and, of course, Tarantino. OUaTIH is, 97%, just a pointless, drawn-out exercise in... whatever the heck Tarantino is tryna say.

Having said that, the climax of OUaTIH is... is.... IS the **single most satisfying 5 minutes** I've ever seen in ANY move, ever. I was shocked at how good that made me feel - I was just a kid in '69, never had any feeling for movie stars or hippies, didn't know beans about Tate/LaBianca, etc etc. Also, I have no particular use for movie violence - I can take it or leave it, and most of it is obviously just laziness on the part of the moviemaker.

But seeing the Manson scum get what they so richly deserved.... in wonderfully-drawn-out screams and agony and living color.... man. That's goooood medicine for the soul.

So all hail & respect Tarantino, for that much, at least

Posted by: stingaling at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM (BL4/P)

84 Not trying to be a contrarian but Alice in Wonderland is the Burton film I seemed to like the best. Not a Burton fan.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:24 PM (2DOZq)

85 Babylon Bee---
Man Glad To Know Job That Fed His Family, Paid His Rent Is 'Non-Essential'

"The job that put clothes on my back and fed my kids is
non-essential? Oh, OK," he sighed as he tried to figure out how to pay
his bills. "I'm glad some bureaucrats have decided that the work I
contributed to our economy and used to pay my bills wasn't really needed
all along."
"Good to know."

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 04, 2020 08:24 PM (59YkD)

86 82 Critical Drinker, "Alien Covenant - Why Does This Movie Exist?":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YO0TUESAL5Y

I'm watching it for the first time.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM (Dc2NZ)

===========

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIftf6S3hvI

Patrick Explains Alien: Covenant (And Why It's Great)

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (zZbCU)

87 I don't think I ever saw Reservoir Dogs
Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (ZCEU2)


It wasn't bad. But gross for the sake of being gross.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (Zz0t1)

88 isn't From Dusk Til Dawn considered a Tarantino film?

I liked that one.

For a crap Tarentino movie that was crap because Oliver Stone took a big crap on it: Natural Born Killers. G-d help me but I saw it twice.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (ykYG2)

89
is Hateful Eight good?
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:08 PM (G546f)







I'm probably in the minority, but... No.

Honestly, I found it to be utterly forgettable, which is unusual for a QT film. I literally can't remember a single line of dialog or the plot.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (EGyGV)

90 I read a story at another site that thanks to the CV outbreak, drive-in movie theaters are due for a big comeback this summer.

Hoping it's so. I admit if I had venture capitalist money, I'd probably spend some to give one a go.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:17 PM (L2ZTs)

Fort Collins has had a two-screen setup for, well pretty much since Drive-ins became a thing. Oddly, I've only been a couple of times.

As a kid I lived behind a drive-in theater, and that's how I got to see Logan's Run, and especially Jenny Agutter.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (x8Wzq)

91 Two things I really respect about Tarantino:

1, he refuses (at least, as far as I know) to mouth off about politics very much.

And 2, when critics question him and try to superimpose great SJW themes on his works, he's not afraid to say to them directly, "no, you're full of shit."

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (L2ZTs)

92 BTW, Christopher Waltz got all the accolades for his performance in "Inglourious Basterds" but the actor playing the French farmer in that first scene is e one who made an impression on me.

Posted by: Tuna at April 04, 2020 08:26 PM (gLRfa)

93 How much Keeffe we got? Miles O'Keeffe
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 07:54 PM (Dc2NZ)

I'm watching Devil Fish. An Eye-talian movie with Eye-talian actors pretending to be Americans.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:26 PM (x8Wzq)

94 nfidel, I might be able to purchase 1% :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve

I'm in for 3%, who's with me?


We used to have two drive-ins and Guyton's Fun Junction, now they are all gone.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2020 08:26 PM (vF+fs)

95 Patrick Explains Alien: Covenant (And Why It's Great)
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (zZbCU)
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Oh, honey... *shakes head sadly*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:26 PM (Dc2NZ)

96 I liked that one.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo

Me too!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:27 PM (G546f)

97 Craig Zahler > Quentin Tarantino

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:27 PM (2DOZq)

98 "23 I find the Movie Thread, as I do the Art Thread, a chance to peek into the world of people that really enjoy pursuing a subject, studying it carefully, beating it to death, and then throwing it out for lesser mortals to view.

And I enjoy every one of both themes, because I am convinced that when you stop learning, you die internally!

Thanks TJM!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:07 PM (BiNEL)"



Well said, and seconded !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at April 04, 2020 08:27 PM (cqteU)

99 I don't believe I've ever seen a Tarantino movie partly comes after my movie watching prime.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at April 04, 2020 08:27 PM (Uu+Jp)

100 Tuna, I've read that in the overlooked flick Carnage, Waltz plays a guy who says that whenever he hears SJW shit, it makes him want to join the Tea Party.

I don't think his character was a bad guy, either.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:27 PM (L2ZTs)

101 doggeh trying ti lure me off the sofa into a wrestling match

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:27 PM (G546f)

102 BTW, Christopher Waltz got all the accolades for his performance in "Inglourious Basterds" but the actor playing the French farmer in that first scene is e one who made an impression on me.
Posted by: Tuna at April 04, 2020 08:26 PM (gLRfa)

Absolutely agree. That was of the most gripping segments I've ever seen in film, and it was not all Waltz.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Flying Kites at Night at April 04, 2020 08:28 PM (x8Wzq)

103 Infidel, I think we may have found our million-dollar idea. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)

104 I don't think I ever saw Reservoir Dogs

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:15 PM (ZCEU2)



It wasn't bad. But gross for the sake of being gross.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:25 PM (Zz0t1)

I can't bash it too much as I bought the most complete dvd version they had many moons ago. I just am not into that kind of violence these days, I don't need it. But the movie was stylish. If he cut out some of the over the top stuff, I would probably still consider it a great film.

btw, this was an excellent article TJM.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:29 PM (hHxp2)

105 About 15 years ago, I visited my daughter who was going to college at UT in Austin. I stayed at the Omni downtown. We were in the lobby bar chatting one afternoon, when into the bar walks Quentin Tarantino. He talked to the bartender for a second, got a drink, then walked out to a table in the lobby facing the main entrance. I confirmed with the bartender that it was QT. We finished up and headed back to the room through the lobby. There was QT with what I assume was a script (a big sheaf of blind paper). He was obviously waiting for someone. As we walked to the elevator, the front door opened and in walked...Uma Thurman. Of course!

Posted by: Granddork at April 04, 2020 08:29 PM (AwyBS)

106 6 Watched on TCM yesterday afternoon Seven Samurai, but 45 minutes to go there was a screeching sound then the sound went off. Tried stopping and restarting but sound never came back on. Luckily was subtitles so just went with it to the end. Had to be on their end.
Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (ZCEU2)

Must have been your cable outlet, it wasn't TCM since I watched it too, and it was fine on my end. I really like Rashoman, which came on a little later.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:29 PM (q3gwH)

107 Quarantino Tarantino

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 04, 2020 08:30 PM (59YkD)

108 @105

Two brushes with greatness in one day.

Posted by: Tuna at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (gLRfa)

109 TJM, I enjoyed your discussion of Tarantino. I've never sought out his films and am only familiar with Pulp Fiction (which I do admire). Your survey of all of his work intrigued me and I have now resolved to make an effort to see what I have missed.

Thanks for the first-rate work.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (XVuno)

110 Hoping it's so. I admit if I had venture capitalist money, I'd probably spend some to give one a go.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:17 PM (L2ZTs)

Ditto! Maybe I should start looking at property. Joint
venture.
Posted by: Infidel

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If you guys can locate the intermission countdown clips and the snack bar advertisements, you'll have a sure fire winner.

You'd better have playground equipment up front or I ain't coming!

Posted by: Tonypete at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (Y4EXg)

111 I'm watching it for the first time.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:23 PM


I thought you'd already screened Covenant?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (DMUuz)

112 What was the one with Antonio Banderas? Saw the shootout part of that again the other day. The one where Tarantino gives himself a bit part as a drug runner telling stories in the bar.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (q3gwH)

113 Such compliments...

*blush*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (zZbCU)

114 Did anyone here ever see what is probably Spike Lee's most controversial film, Bamboozled?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (L2ZTs)

115 112 What was the one with Antonio Banderas? Saw the shootout part of that again the other day. The one where Tarantino gives himself a bit part as a drug runner telling stories in the bar.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (q3gwH)

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Probably either Desperado or Once Upon a Time in Mexico, which are Robert Rodriguez joints. They're buddies.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:32 PM (zZbCU)

116 I do like directors and writers who develop a relationship with their actors and keep hiring them for their movies. I think Tarantino and Adam Sandler do it the most. In Sandler's case the actors are actual friends.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:32 PM (2DOZq)

117 The Last Emperor was a great film. I have not seen it in ages. It is time to watch it again.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:33 PM (hHxp2)

118 Tony, playground equipment is a little risky. How about game downloads for the kids' cellphones? :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:34 PM (L2ZTs)

119 What do people here think of Kurosawa's 1980s flick, Ran?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:35 PM (L2ZTs)

120
I was watching the good, the bad and the ugly last night and I was
thinking the final scene music was used in Kill Bill. Not gonna look it
up. But it reminded me of the snow fight scene.


Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

Hmm, I am going to bet against that. I doubt he used Morricone but I could be wrong for sure. There were two Kill Bills. I only saw the first one.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:35 PM (hHxp2)

121 I thought you'd already screened Covenant?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (DMUuz)
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Covenant screened me! *weeps*

No, I mean Critical Drinker's flamethowing of the movie.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:35 PM (Dc2NZ)

122 I know it's not a "Tarantino movie", it's a Rodriguez movie with Tarantino in it, but "From Dusk Till Dawn" is one of my favorite movies ever.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (qnaGV)

123 119 What do people here think of Kurosawa's 1980s flick, Ran?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:35 PM (L2ZTs)

===========

Magnificent. A marvelous career capper, perhaps the best.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (zZbCU)

124 Such compliments...

*blush*
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (zZbCU)


You're good at what you do. You certainly have a knack for reviewing flicks.

I just watch them, sometimes.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (Zz0t1)

125 i think i saw Pulp Fiction.... but i ain't sure.

definitely haven't seen any of the others.

Saturday late afternoon is like a dead zone for me here @ the HQ: i don't get chess at all, and not understanding the secret code doesn't help me try and learn anything, and i never go to new movies (last one i saw was "Gran Torino"), or even turn on one of the satellite movie channels, so i rarely know what anyone is talking about here.

guess i'll go kill time making dinner so i'm free for the ONT, which i DO grok.

and drink a few moar beers, because i can.

Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx tech at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (vwf8z)

126 What do people here think of Kurosawa's 1980s flick, Ran?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:35 PM (L2ZTs)

I thought it was spectacular.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (Uu+Jp)

127 103 Infidel, I think we may have found our million-dollar idea. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:28 PM (L2ZTs)



Unfortunately, I think it would be a hard go in Mountain Country. It's seasonal.

I'm hoping with the wuhan flu people may want to get back to basics. Time will tell.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (vF+fs)

128 124 You're good at what you do. You certainly have a knack for reviewing flicks.

I just watch them, sometimes.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (Zz0t1)

========

I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (zZbCU)

129 Redemptive themes are strong in "Pulp Fiction". All the main characters get a second chance in life. Jules chooses to quit "the life"; Vincent doesn't and gets killed for it. Butch redeems himself by rescuing Marcellus from the rapists. He "lost (his) L. A. privileges, but now has a chance to build a better life with Fabienne. What will Mia do with her second chance? Unclear.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at April 04, 2020 08:37 PM (g8Yc+)

130 119 What do people here think of Kurosawa's 1980s flick, Ran?
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:35 PM (L2ZTs)
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Eh...good battle scenes.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:37 PM (Dc2NZ)

131 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

I thought TGTBATU was the worst of the triology.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:37 PM (2DOZq)

132 What do people here think of Kurosawa's 1980s flick, Ran?

Posted by: qdpsteve


I recently acquired this, haven't watched it since I got it, but I do remember REALLY, REALLY LOVING IT back when it was new (which is why I picked it up recently).

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at April 04, 2020 08:37 PM (qnaGV)

133 I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (zZbCU)
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The Prometheus Channel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:37 PM (Dc2NZ)

134 Saw the Last Emperor in theater when it came out.

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 08:38 PM (ZCEU2)

135 131 Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (r+sAi)

I thought TGTBATU was the worst of the triology.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:37 PM (2DOZq)

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I agree with this. For a Few Dollars More is the best of the three.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:38 PM (zZbCU)

136 I thought Once Upon a Time in Hollywood was disappointing. I like Dogs and Pulp, and Basterds better, maybe even Jackie Brown and the Kill Bills. Didn't see the others.

For me, there wasn't enough narrative thread to keep me interested. Yeah, he got the clothes, music, violence right (he always does). Just didn't love it. It was OK

Anybody ever seen a British film called 'A Field in England'? Watched that recently. I liked it. Seems to be a love it or hate it type film. It's pretty twisted

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 04, 2020 08:38 PM (oAY8z)

137 Ah, it was Desperado I was watching.

As to Kurosawa's Ran, it's not just a good film, it is magnificently, exquisitely beautiful. Makes you dream of what Kurosawa's earlier work would have been like in color.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:38 PM (q3gwH)

138 the music at the end of GoodBadUgly is "The Ecstasy Of Gold" by Morricone

there are 3 Morricone pieces in Kill Bill 2

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (iTXRQ)

139 Everybody, thanks.
Gotta watch Ran then. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (L2ZTs)

140 136 Anybody ever seen a British film called 'A Field in England'? Watched that recently. I liked it. Seems to be a love it or hate it type film. It's pretty twisted
Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 04, 2020 08:38 PM (oAY8z)

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I saw the screengrab for that while scrolling through Amazon Prime earlier today. Looked interesting. Added it to my Watchlist.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (zZbCU)

141 I'm going old school tonight. Watching Goldfinger. Best Bond film ever.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (dUJdY)

142 Watching Angie Dickinson and James Arness in Gun the Man Down, 1957.

Posted by: Infidel at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (vF+fs)

143 I have this really bad habit. When a new movie comes out that interests me I almost never see it in the theater, but while waiting for it to come out on home streaming I check it out on wikipedia and see what the plot's about. This spoiler-seeking behavior never diminishes my enjoyment of, say, any given MCU movie (since their plots are rarely the point) nor most other movies.

But Tarantino uses dialogue to build tension like an inflating a balloon, popping the balloon with whatever violent event happens next. Knowing what's going to happen deflates the tension and makes the dialogue sound tedious and pretentiously overwritten. But it really isn't if you're going into it blind.

Posted by: Jack Squat Bupkis at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (0V/8D)

144 to Kurosawa's Ran, it's not just a good film, it is magnificently, exquisitely beautiful. Makes you dream of what Kurosawa's earlier work would have been like in color.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:38 PM (q3gwH)

What he said.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 04, 2020 08:39 PM (Uu+Jp)

145 TJM.....Wife just asked about Boondock Saints.

Worth watching? I've heard of it, but don't remember why or if it was something I needed to see.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (Zz0t1)

146 I have been continuing my film making career during this lock down - although I have been restricted to shooting from my yard or in my house because of it. Doing quite a bit of work with Da Vinci Resolve, made my first effort at a green screen background, and it worked out well. The Fusion section of Resolve is better than trying to use an alpha channel in the color section for chroma keying.

If anyone is curious what I look like I posted a brief clip of me while working on getting skin tones to look better.


https://tinyurl.com/wragzbc

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (le57Z)

147 13 I'm watching Wanted a 2008 comic book film starring Angelina Jolie, James Macovoy and Morgan Freeman.
It's amusing in a comic book kind of way.
I'm slightly suprised that this is the first Angelina Jolie movie I've seen.
Considering how recognizable she is I think I would seen one of her movies before.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at April 04, 2020 08:02 PM (Uu+Jp)

Please go watch 'Hackers' then.

So bad, its good.

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (NgKpN)

148 liked Reservoir Dogs.



Fat ass Chris Penn could act! And he looked good in that track suit!



And he actually sang in "The Funeral". Unlike his brother. Not Sean,
the other one. Plus he fucked that wannabe hooker in the ass in the
alleyway in that movie for five bucks, so that was nice.



But he couldn't do drugs worth a damn, so he's dead now.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 08:10 PM (Z+IKu)

It is a shame he passed away so young. But it is funny to see thin Chris Penn in Pale Rider.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (hHxp2)

149 Tom, thanks!

I believe Kurosawa was working on a flick with Spielberg when he died.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (L2ZTs)

150 I do like directors and writers who develop a relationship with their actors and keep hiring them for their movies. I think Tarantino and Adam Sandler do it the most. In Sandler's case the actors are actual friends.

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The Cohen Bros. seem to have a stable as well. It's interesting that, for example, Frances McDormand is a major character in Fargo and a very minor character in Hail Caesar as Steve Buscemi is a major character in Fargo and The Big Lebowski and a minor character in Miller's Crossing.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (+y/Ru)

151 And I disagree completely about TGTBATU - I love that movie!!! And the real star of the film is Eli Wallach's Tuco - Leone himself said that in an interview a few years back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (q3gwH)

152 145 TJM.....Wife just asked about Boondock Saints.

Worth watching? I've heard of it, but don't remember why or if it was something I needed to see.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (Zz0t1)

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I'm on an island on this one, because I despise that movie.

It's annoying, makes no sense, and is poorly built and filmed.

But so many people disagree with me.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (zZbCU)

153 Pulp Fiction was pretty good.

Posted by: Eromero at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (XhWtx)

154 Now I want to see once uppn a time... spoilers or not. Lived thru era in area.

Reminded of Warren Oates in "Bring me the head of alfred garcia" shooting the corpses on the highway talking to himself.

"Why?! Because it feels so goddamn good, that's why".

Saw it the day it opened on hollywood blvd.

Posted by: getting the banned under the fence at the gilmore drive in at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (AqYSP)

155 TJM.....Wife just asked about Boondock Saints.

Worth watching? I've heard of it, but don't remember why or if it was something I needed to see.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (Zz0t1)

Just watched Boondock Saints and Boondock Saints 2 last week. I like them but I wouldn't think it would be something women would like.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (2DOZq)

156 Bamboozled is Spike Lee's best film in my opinion.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (ykYG2)

157 Jewells, Goldfinger is pretty good. So were The Man With The Golden Gun and GoldenEye. Seems the best Bond flicks have 'gold' somewhere in the title.

I love that Goldfinger has one of the very first promotional product placements in a film... for Kentucky Fried Chicken. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)

158 boulder, really???

I ask because Criterion just reissued it on bluray and DVD. I remember it caused an uproar when it came out in 2000. Today it couldn't be made at all.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)

159 Here's a tough question (maybe for some), but if you
could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert
island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino
and the Cohen Brothers.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk





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Huston and Hitchcock.

Posted by: Diogenes at April 04, 2020 08:20 PM (axyOa)

Scorcese and Leone
but damn, I could come up with a good five more that I would want.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:43 PM (hHxp2)

160 Oh yeah I've seen Pulp Fiction. I guess I have seen a Tarantino movie.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 04, 2020 08:43 PM (Uu+Jp)

161 Posted by: Granddork at April 04, 2020 08:29 PM (AwyBS)

And you without your Hanzo Blade!

Posted by: Romeo13 at April 04, 2020 08:43 PM (NgKpN)

162 Just two filmmakers?

Hard to decide, but for me it'd probably be Kubrick and Scorsese.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:44 PM (L2ZTs)

163 Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (q3gwH)

You like it better than Fist Full of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More?

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:44 PM (2DOZq)

164 I love that Goldfinger has one of the very first promotional product placements in a film... for Kentucky Fried Chicken. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)
,----
Well, they had to show they were in Kentucky.

IIRR, the film came out about the time KFC was making the jump from regional to national.

Posted by: Captain Obvious, USS Lone Fire at April 04, 2020 08:44 PM (g8Yc+)

165 ABC is doing their annual showing of "The Ten Commandments". I try to watch it every year. Sumptious scenes and color, over the top acting, and a fair bit of humor. Not to mention a young Yvonne De Carlo at her chesty best.

Posted by: JTB at April 04, 2020 08:45 PM (7EjX1)

166 Worth watching? I've heard of it, but don't remember why or if it was something I needed to see.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (Zz0t1)

It's blitheringly stupid. Wannabee edgelords liked it but the only good part is Willem Dafoe as a gay FBI guy.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 08:45 PM (BAsqb)

167 I believe Kurosawa was working on a flick with Spielberg when he died.


Spielberg died?

Posted by: getting the banned's pistols edited out of new cut bcuz barrymore pussywhip at April 04, 2020 08:45 PM (AqYSP)

168 >But Tarantino uses dialogue to build tension like an inflating a balloon


that's right- I also like when a scene is building to some climax, and he throws in an 'oh shit' moment

like in Pulp Fiction at the end, Jules and Vince in the diner talking, then you hear the robber shout 'garcon!'

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:45 PM (iTXRQ)

169 Once Upon a Time in Hollywood? A series of intermittently interesting, often over-written vignettes. Once again Tarantino proves himself incapable of a serious and coherent great movie.

After Rick's acting crucible on the set of Lancer and Cliff's journey into sordid darkness at Spahn Ranch, he was arguably poised to develop a rich parallel character study. But he soon frittered it away, and was drawn again irresistibly to the orgy of jejune violence.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at April 04, 2020 08:45 PM (H8QX8)

170 I love the The Good the Bad and The Ugly and it's my favorite soundtrack. The way the music fits the look and feel of the film just works for me

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 04, 2020 08:45 PM (oAY8z)

171 But he couldn't do drugs worth a damn, so he's dead now.

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I saw Alice Cooper exclaiming that Glen Campbell could snort him some cocaine! Two things: 1) I never thought Glen and Alice hanging out and 2) if Alice Cooper is telling you to cut back, it's time to re-evaluate your life.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (+y/Ru)

172 Captain Obvious, yup. :-)
KFC was already national while McDonalds was still trying to find its feet in the fast food marketplace, I believe.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (L2ZTs)

173 Re- Drive-In movies. They were a viable business before property taxes existed or went nuts. Even then the plot of land they sat on were bought outright and not on borrowed money. Those were different times.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (4thlk)

174 getting, don't get your hopes up ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (L2ZTs)

175 Watched Rush (the original version with Greg Allman and Jennifer Jason Leigh) for the first time. Really good performances by the two actors portraying narcs.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (le57Z)

176 I just think it's funny that Tarantino writes himself dialogue saying n****r over and over and over again and somehow nobody cares. It's almost like there are different rules for people who are In The Club.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 08:47 PM (BAsqb)

177 OK, at the risk of engendering the wrath of a cob*, I'll say this...

I plan to watch this movie at some point, because said cob said it was good. But I expect to be disappointed... Tarantino was one of those guys who had successful ideas, they paid off, and made him yuuuuge.

Then his head got yuuuuge and he just started doing whatever he wanted, and that was mostly lame, and nobody had the nerve to tell him.

Kind of like Adolf Hitler.**

*please don't do a Zappa-style Tarantino series, TJM.

**insert Godwin's Law joke here.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 08:47 PM (II2Y0)

178 Please go watch 'Hackers' then.

So bad, its good.
Posted by: Romeo13 at April 04, 2020 08:40 PM (NgKpN)
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Hack the planet!!!!

RLM, "Hackers":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lM7_oyCZqj0

They're so right: There were two paths to take, fashion-wise, and they chose poorly. Instead of Japanese Goth Cyberdelia, let's go with khakis and flannel.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:47 PM (Dc2NZ)

179 Don't like Tarntino, dont like DiFaggio, don't like Manson (people like Tarantino do), don't like Hollywood... nope, not much for me here.

Posted by: Corn Fed at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (EA1BR)

180 173 Re- Drive-In movies. They were a viable business before property taxes existed or went nuts. Even then the plot of land they sat on were bought outright and not on borrowed money. Those were different times.
Posted by: lowandslow at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (4thlk)

I spent a night once in a motel where the rooms wrapped around a drive-in.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (Uu+Jp)

181 I agree that good, bad, ugly isn't the best of the three, I just happened to be watching it and by coinky dink the music reminded me of KB. Not to mention the focus on the eyes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (r+sAi)

182 An Observation: great flick.

The very last scene is a really nice jolt. :-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (L2ZTs)

183 It's almost like there are different rules for people who are In The Club.
Posted by: Vanya

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Yea us!!
--- The Kennedys

Posted by: Tonypete at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (Y4EXg)

184 163 Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (q3gwH)

You like it better than Fist Full of Dollars and For a Few Dollars More?
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:44 PM (2DOZq)

Oh yes, much more.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (q3gwH)

185 Hah! Literally just finished watching "One Upon a Time in Hollywood." Loved it. I was dreading the approach of the Tate murders, but once it became apparent Tarantino was changing history, I literally laughed and yelled, "Quentin, you audacious bastard!"

And watching (murderous) hippies get brutally killed was just icing on the cake.

I recall Tarantino being asked about the nihilism/violence charge, and he said something to the effect of "people who do bad things in my movies have bad things happen to them." So yes, he's actually kind of a moralist.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (j4zcI)

186 All Hail Eris...

I loooove MST3K too!

Posted by: IrishEi at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (sGotD)

187 >>> I love that Goldfinger has one of the very first promotional product placements in a film... for Kentucky Fried Chicken. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve

Ford Mustang convertible. Don't remember which movie.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (BtClI)

188 Vanya, QT *has* been called out for his liberal usage of the n-word in his flicks.

It just never seems to go anywhere, largely I think because Tarantino is a master at laughing the SJWs off and ignoring them. He just doesn't give a shit what they think.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (L2ZTs)

189 I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

do it already!

now is a good time
everyone bored to death

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (G546f)

190 I think that Deathproof it's a better movie that Planet Zombie. With one caveat, the only way that the end of Deathproof doesn't destroy the entire movie is to see it as the point of the movie where QT shows it's his movie: Beating the living crap out of the bad guy is the ending of Basterds and Hollywood, it is Tarantino's version of moral release.

Plus Kurt Russel gives one of his best ever performances in DP.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (YWmx/)

191 188 Vanya, QT *has* been called out for his liberal usage of the n-word in his flicks.

It just never seems to go anywhere, largely I think because Tarantino is a master at laughing the SJWs off and ignoring them. He just doesn't give a shit what they think.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (L2ZTs)

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And Samuel L. Jackson comes to his defense all the time. That helps.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (zZbCU)

192 Just watched Boondock Saints and Boondock Saints 2 last week. I like them but I wouldn't think it would be something women would like.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
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I LOVE Boondock Saints.

Haven't seen Nr II. Heard it wasn't very good.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (Dc2NZ)

193 Kentucky Fried Movie was awesome.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (2DOZq)

194 TJM, exactly.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (L2ZTs)

195 Kilroy, yup. Great early flick from John Landis before he went crazy.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (L2ZTs)

196 Captain Obvious, yup. :-)
KFC was already national while McDonalds was still trying to find its feet in the fast food marketplace, I believe.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (L2ZTs)

As a kid very many years ago it was a treat to go to an A&W drive I'm.
It's shocking to think those cute carhops are in their 70s.
Now I'm sad.

Posted by: Northernlurker at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (Uu+Jp)

197 189 I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

do it already!

now is a good time
everyone bored to death
Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (G546f)

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We have 9 days left in this house. Not the best time to invest in a microphone.

I've started writing a few scripts, so I can start filming once I have a decent microphone, though. They're essentially just posts I've written here done in a video format.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (zZbCU)

198 The best way to handle SJWs is to ignore them, course continued success helps too

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (oAY8z)

199 Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (Dc2NZ)

Tried to be more humorous but I think it's worth a watch if you like the first one.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (2DOZq)

200 I saw Alice Cooper exclaiming that Glen Campbell
could snort him some cocaine! Two things: 1) I never thought Glen and
Alice hanging out and 2) if Alice Cooper is telling you to cut back,
it's time to re-evaluate your life.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at April 04, 2020 08:46 PM (+y/Ru)


Cooper tells some funny Keith Moon stories. (videos on youtube) One was Moon stayed at his home. Just showed up unannounced and stayed at Cooper's home. One day Cooper and his wife came home and Moon was dressed in a French maids outfit cleaning their home.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (tQSvt)

201
I liked the first Boondock Saints well enough, except for Willem Dafoe in drag of course, and haven't seen the second.

But the fanatical following I saw for it was all chicks. Chicks loved that movie.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (II2Y0)

202 EA1BR's Hot Air button must be on the fritz.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at April 04, 2020 08:52 PM (ykYG2)

203
I have seen bits and pieces of Tarantino's films, but never one in its entirety. No draw for me in them, although I do want to see OUATIH.

I've watched "The Last Waltz" and "Gallipoli" in the last 24 hours (rewatched, actually, but the last watchings were years ago). I found myself filled with really visceral dislike, even hatred, for the pig-headed Australian Colonel who refused to call off the slaughter of the Light Horse in "Gallipoli", largely, I think, because he strongly resembled that ass, Prince Charles, for whom I hold intense loathing.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at April 04, 2020 08:53 PM (pNxlR)

204 TJM, I hope you don't mind that I sent you a copy of my script.

Looking forward to your thoughts on it, good and bad. Seriously, I need honest feedback on the thing.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:53 PM (L2ZTs)

205 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 08:51 PM (II2Y0)

Really? I have to assume the bad boy personas of the characters.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:53 PM (2DOZq)

206 They're essentially just posts I've written here done in a video format.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,

but with bewbs, right?
lol j/k

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 08:53 PM (G546f)

207 Just watched Boondock Saints and Boondock Saints 2 last week. I like them but I wouldn't think it would be something women would like.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (2DOZq)


I think most guys like Boondock Saints 1 & 2.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (BiNEL)

208 In "Death Proof", in the 1st half of the movie, the girls lose. In the 2nd half, they win.

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (iTXRQ)

209 193 Kentucky Fried Movie was awesome.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (2DOZq)


It does not age perfectly. Except the part that's a takeoff on Bruce Lee or something. That's eternal.

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (dOV9E)

210 204 TJM, I hope you don't mind that I sent you a copy of my script.

Looking forward to your thoughts on it, good and bad. Seriously, I need honest feedback on the thing.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:53 PM (L2ZTs)

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Oh, yeah. I did receive that.

I'll get to it. Just in the middle of moving house, so it may take a bit of time.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (zZbCU)

211 Splunge, Catholic High School Girls In Trouble has aged how exactly? ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (L2ZTs)

212 TJM, no problemo, get to it when you can. Thanks again.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (L2ZTs)

213 Also saw, for the first time, Natalie Portman in Black Swan. I thought it showed a descent into madness well, And, I enjoyed the dancing. Portman had to work really hard to look convincing as a ballerina. However the movie was difficult for me to watch as I don't enjoy watching women getting injured.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (le57Z)

214 I should be using quarantine to watch more movies, but so far, just re-watching Firefly, which is exactly as awesome as I remembered.

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (dOV9E)

215 214 I should be using quarantine to watch more movies, but so far, just re-watching Firefly, which is exactly as awesome as I remembered.
Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (dOV9E)

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There's Serenity.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (zZbCU)

216 I watched a film a little while back, The Water Diviner, knowing nothing about it, just picking from having a show hole, and totally different than what I expected. But I give it a thumb up.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (r+sAi)

217 211 Splunge, Catholic High School Girls In Trouble has aged how exactly? ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:54 PM (L2ZTs)


Well, you got me. I have not watched it in so long that I don't even remember that part. But that also means that it had aged out even 10 years ago.

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:56 PM (dOV9E)

218 I recall Tarantino being asked about the nihilism/violence charge, and he said something to the effect of "people who do bad things in my movies have bad things happen to them." So yes, he's actually kind of a moralist.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 08:48 PM (j4zcI)

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Yeah, Tarantino beats the viewer about the face and neck with the blunt end of the moral premise.

Not saying that as a criticism.

But look at his best movie, Pulp Fiction. He makes the dichotomy between Jules and Vincent as unambiguous as humanly possible.

They both go through the same gauntlet. One takes a moral inventory and resolves to change, the other blithely rejects his lesson.

The first is redeemed. The other dies in a pile of blood and shit.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 08:56 PM (II2Y0)

219 Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 08:49 PM (YWmx/)

Just from the DP clip, I may have to go find a copy to watch the whole thing.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:56 PM (BiNEL)

220 Since we're touching upon the Rodriguez brothers through Grindhouse, etc., I will admit I like Planet Terror. Better actually than Deathproof.

But most of all, I'm still snickering over part of Mel Gibson's performance as Voz in Machete Kills. Machete gruesomely kills Zaror and Gibson says, "Boy, you f*cked him up worse than a high school science fair project!"

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at April 04, 2020 08:56 PM (7s3Gx)

221 213. Didn't they bust that flick because after Portman won. Her Oscar it was found out that her face was cgi'd onto a real ballerina dancing?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at April 04, 2020 08:57 PM (a4qVe)

222 215 There's Serenity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (zZbCU)


Yes, and I'm sure I will watch it when I get to the end of the series. I do like how it resolves some central mysteries of the series. But I will have to brace a bit for...certain events in the movie.

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:57 PM (dOV9E)

223 An acquaintance of mine owns a drive in here in Colorado. She has battled with the city for years because they want the land. They have actually changed turn lanes, sicced the department of health on her food stand, regulated hours they could show, made her take out the playground, etc. etc. etc. She is bound and determined that her family keep it open

Posted by: westminsterdogshow.....Coloradomorondezvous2020 at April 04, 2020 08:57 PM (/UQ/R)

224 Kentucky Fried Movie was awesome.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (2DOZq)


Cleopatra Schwartz

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (tQSvt)

225 I've read one of the great things about Serenity is that it explains the Firefly universe, so even if you were never a watcher or fan of the show, you can still enjoy the flick.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (L2ZTs)

226 I should be using quarantine to watch more movies, but so far, just
re-watching Firefly, which is exactly as awesome as I remembered.


Yes!

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (59YkD)

227 222 215 There's Serenity.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (zZbCU)

Yes, and I'm sure I will watch it when I get to the end of the series. I do like how it resolves some central mysteries of the series. But I will have to brace a bit for...certain events in the movie.
Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:57 PM (dOV9E)

==========

*nods sagaciously*

Jayne wishing he had brought grenades.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (zZbCU)

228 TQM, also the Society For The Dead.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (L2ZTs)

229 I don't really understand the appeal of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I didn't dislike it. But it didn't seem particularly good either. It's nothing I'd watch twice. It at least wasn't another reboot or men-in-tights-save-the-world movie. So it has that going for it.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (H5knJ)

230 And I disagree completely about TGTBATU - I love
that movie!!! And the real star of the film is Eli Wallach's Tuco -
Leone himself said that in an interview a few years back.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 08:41 PM (q3gwH)

Whom are you disagreeing with? I want to know because that person is wrong if they don't appreciate the film lol. And of course Tuco was the star.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (hHxp2)

231 I've been watching lots of Horror, Sci-Fi, Post-Apocalyptic shorts on YouTube. Most are between 8-20 minutes. There's some decent stuff out there if you enjoy a good short.

Posted by: ghost of hallelujah at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (oAY8z)

232 Cleopatra Schwartz

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (tQSvt)


Big Jim Slade...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (7s3Gx)

233 I hate Tarantino as a person but his films are great. Tony Scott directed it, I think, but Tarantino's True Romance is my favorite. That and Basterds. Christoph Walz is an amazing presence.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (AFSld)

234 Just learned today that Mel Gibson's Payback was a remake of Lee Marvin's Point Blank, which I watched today.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

235 234 Just learned today that Mel Gibson's Payback was a remake of Lee Marvin's Point Blank, which I watched today.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

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Point Blank, directed by John Boorman, crazy person.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (zZbCU)

236 I should be using quarantine to watch more movies, but so far, just re-watching Firefly, which is exactly as awesome as I remembered.
Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 08:55 PM (dOV9E)
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If you watch Serenity (2005) right after, you're watching one of the best Sci-fi stories ever put on video.

Those stories just hold up! However you might want to look online for the "true order" of Firefly episodes.

Fox screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (YWmx/)

237 one of the great things about Serenity

The Operative: Do you know what your sin is, Mal?


Mal: Oh hell, I'm a fan of all seven. But right now, I'm gonna have to go with wrath.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (59YkD)

238 Just learned today that Mel Gibson's Payback was a remake of Lee Marvin's Point Blank, which I watched today.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (2DOZq)

Only saw Point Blank once, and IIRC it wasn't that great. Payback was much better.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (BAsqb)

239 It at least wasn't another reboot or men-in-tights-save-the-world movie. So it has that going for it.

I admit to coming up with, and kind of liking, an idea for a superhero movie spoof... about a cross-dressing superhero. TightsMan.

Problem is, if I wrote it and it got made, the SJWs would take it over in no time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:01 PM (L2ZTs)

240 I hate Tarantino as a person but his films are great. Tony Scott directed it, I think, but Tarantino's True Romance is my favorite. That and Basterds. Christoph Walz is an amazing presence.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (AFSld)
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"If I had to fuck a guy, I'd fuck Elvis".

Love that movie.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:02 PM (YWmx/)

241 I enjoyed the Tarantino movies I've watched but my only opinion of him as a film maker is he isn't afraid to take a chance or be different. It sure isn't the formulatic crap Hollywood wants to make 99.9 percent of the time.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 04, 2020 09:02 PM (4thlk)

242 Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 04, 2020 08:58 PM (H5knJ)

That's my take. Also if it was a alternate history fantasy, I would have been more satisfied with Manson having his smug head smashed.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:03 PM (2DOZq)

243 Firefly rocks. Damn shame it was canceled.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:03 PM (NWiLs)

244 Kentucky Fried Movie was awesome.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 08:50 PM (2DOZq)

Yes!....."Take him to Detroit" was true then and true now.

My, how things have not changed.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 09:03 PM (Z+IKu)

245 >>>"If I had to fuck a guy, I'd fuck Elvis".



Great cast, from Christian Slater to Walken, to Hopper. The dialogue was just amazing

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 04, 2020 09:04 PM (AFSld)

246 She is bound and determined that her family keep it open

Posted by: westminsterdogshow.....Coloradomorondezvous2020 at April 04, 2020 08:57 PM (/UQ/R)


Comrade WDS, tell her to be forewarned that der Staat will crush her and her family and laugh while doing it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:04 PM (BiNEL)

247 I've started writing a few scripts, so I can start filming once I have a
decent microphone, though. They're essentially just posts I've written
here done in a video format


The easiest way to film yourself with decent quality and sound is to use a Logitech 920S camera plugged into a usb 3.0 port. The Logitech software download allows you to do 1080p at 24 frames per second and the microphones in the camera are pretty decent considering the whole thing is $69.95. Mount it on your monitor screen and you are good to go.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:05 PM (le57Z)

248 Only saw Point Blank once, and IIRC it wasn't that great. Payback was much better.
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (BAsqb)

I agree .

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:05 PM (2DOZq)

249 "you could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino and the Cohen Brothers."

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Coen Bros and Christopher Nolan.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:05 PM (j4zcI)

250 Halloween costume idea: do up your face to look like a young teenager, and coat yourself from head to toe in cornmeal. Then you can go trick-or-treating as the "Corn Teen."

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (L2ZTs)

251 249 "you could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino and the Cohen Brothers."

--------

Coen Bros and Christopher Nolan.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:05 PM (j4zcI)

Oh come on, where's the love?

Posted by: Joel Schumacher at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (NWiLs)

252 There is no such thing as a non-excellent Kurosawa film.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (j4zcI)

253 I hate Tarantino as a person but his films are great. Tony Scott directed it, I think, but Tarantino's True Romance is my favorite. That and Basterds. Christoph Walz is an amazing presence.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at April 04, 2020 08:59 PM (AFSld)

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I loved True Romance, and I thought it would have been better if QT actually directed, instead of just writing.

But Basterds, I hated. I'm not even a stickler for historical accuracy, I think that directors take license with it, out of narrative necessity.

But what happened in the Second World War was a surreal enormity that defies fictionalization. Anyone who tries to come up with something more bizarre and mind-bending than what actually happened will fail, and cheapen the factual reality, too.

Same with Django Unchained. Revising that history doesn't improve the story.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (II2Y0)

254 TGTBATU > FFOD>FAFDM But the differences are no huge, they are all great films.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (hHxp2)

255 Love Firefly but I liked Farscape better.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:07 PM (2DOZq)

256 Just from the DP clip, I may have to go find a copy to watch the whole thing.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 08:56 PM (BiNEL)
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Just keep in mind the ending is pure shameless Tarantino. But the development is quite good, even within the B-movie structure. And there still is plenty of B-movie, despite some top-rate performances.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:07 PM (YWmx/)

257 Wonder what a color version of Seven Samurai would come out like

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (ZCEU2)

258 Paul Voerhoeven and Lars Von Trier

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (NWiLs)

259 258 Paul Voerhoeven and Lars Von Trier
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (NWiLs)

=============

Explosive depression.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (zZbCU)

260 Except for the "Every Which Way but Loose" movies, I like just about everything Eastwood did. I might choose him as one of my two.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (4thlk)

261 252 There is no such thing as a non-excellent Kurosawa film.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (j4zcI)

One hardly any one talks about is the one that made a lasting impression on me. OK, it was the only one I saw. I think it was called Kagemusha, and it was about what happened when a dude who looked just like the King (Shogun?) was used as a substitute after the monarch died, and what happened next. Visually great, but what's really stuck with me is how much it engages the viewer's brain in ways not typical for movies.

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 09:09 PM (dOV9E)

262 259 258 Paul Voerhoeven and Lars Von Trier
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (NWiLs)

=============

Explosive depression.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (zZbCU)

Starship Showgirls Anti-Christ

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:09 PM (NWiLs)

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (dOV9E)

264 Sh*t. Does the Barrel have a movie screen?

Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (dOV9E)

265 Insom, "name two film directors who need to be immediately infected with the worst strain of CV imaginable." ;-)

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (L2ZTs)

266 Ford and Capra

Posted by: Caliban at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (QE8X6)

267 Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (II2Y0)

I thought I was the only one who hated that movie.

Basterds plays like a twentysomething know it all mentally jerking off over what he'd have done if he had been in World War II because naturally he's smarter than everyone else.

I'd catch NAZIS. And I'd have a JEWISH guy BEAT THEM TO DEATH. It's IRONIC. And then I'd KILL HITLER. I would be AWESOME.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (BAsqb)

268 Bye bye, Splunge! Have fun storming The Barrel!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)

269 261 252 There is no such thing as a non-excellent Kurosawa film.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:06 PM (j4zcI)

One hardly any one talks about is the one that made a lasting impression on me. OK, it was the only one I saw. I think it was called Kagemusha, and it was about what happened when a dude who looked just like the King (Shogun?) was used as a substitute after the monarch died, and what happened next. Visually great, but what's really stuck with me is how much it engages the viewer's brain in ways not typical for movies.
Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 09:09 PM (dOV9E)

==========

Ah, the movie that Kurosawa called his dress rehearsal for Ran.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (zZbCU)

270 Kubrick.........................everyone else.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (ja/kn)

271 OK movie but not one of his best. Most of the movie was ... well low speed and lacking anything exiting. OK, I will just come out and say it, it was boring. Also what he did to the Bruce Lee character is well ... criminal. Bruce Lee in real life was nothing like the character in this movie. The ending was spectacular eventful entertaining and wow! It just took a long time to get there.

Posted by: Frododlb at April 04, 2020 09:11 PM (cnWDV)

272 The Gauntlet was the worst directed Eastwood movie IMHO.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:11 PM (2DOZq)

273 Except for the "Every Which Way but Loose" movies, I like just about everything Eastwood did.


*squinty eyes*

Posted by: Clyde at April 04, 2020 09:11 PM (oVJmc)

274 265 Insom, "name two film directors who need to be immediately infected with the worst strain of CV imaginable." ;-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (L2ZTs)

Paul Fieg had it coming.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:11 PM (NWiLs)

275 Bye bye, Splunge! Have fun storming The Barrel!
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (NWiLs)


The barrel is a wet market!

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 09:11 PM (Zz0t1)

276 Ikiru. That is all.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:12 PM (BAsqb)

277 Payback was much better.
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (BAsqb)
---
Gregg Henry is not appreciated enough, but you really hate him in this movie. I hate the guy right now just thinking about the movie.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:12 PM (YWmx/)

278 Except for the "Every Which Way but Loose" movies, I like just about everything Eastwood did. I might choose him as one of my two.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 04, 2020 09:08 PM (4thlk)


I think there are almost no Eastwood movies I regret watching, and almost all of them I would watch again and enjoy.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:12 PM (BiNEL)

279 Sh*t. Does the Barrel have a movie screen?
Posted by: Splunge at April 04, 2020 09:10 PM (dOV9E)

Ummmmm.....Yes.

"Ishtar" plays on an endless loop.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 09:12 PM (Z+IKu)

280 Gregg Henry is not appreciated enough, but you really hate him in this movie. I hate the guy right now just thinking about the movie.
Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:12 PM (YWmx/)

Which one was he?

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (BAsqb)

281 Hairyback, I thought the Barrel featured Gigli.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (L2ZTs)

282 Evening, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Watched Fiddler on the Roof this afternoon and cried. Why? I don't know - part of it being that the film brings back memories, part of it being Noel Coward's dictum about the potency of cheap music, part because I wear my damned heart on my sleeve and part just sheer depression.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (2JVJo)

283 277 Payback was much better.
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:00 PM (BAsqb)
---
Gregg Henry is not appreciated enough, but you really hate him in this movie. I hate the guy right now just thinking about the movie.
Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:12 PM (YWmx/)

In Point Plank all I could think of is Dean Wormer.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (2DOZq)

284 "Serenity" and "Demolition Man" are the two greatest libertarian (or "freedom loving", if you hate libertarians) movies ever made.

"I'm going to give you your fondest wish. I'm going to show you a world without sin."

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (j4zcI)

285 The Gauntlet is great compared to a few Clint stinkers of recent vintage. For example, I love baseball and Amy Adams is easy on the eyes, but Trouble With The Curve is terrible.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 04, 2020 09:14 PM (ja/kn)

286 "...directed by John Boorman, crazy person."
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The genius who gave us Sean Connery running across post-apocalyptic Britain in a red mankini and thigh boots?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (Dc2NZ)

287 I like Tarantino too. Who else would have resurrected Travolta?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (EZebt)

288 Which one was he?
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (BAsqb)

The double crossing partner.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

289 Now and forever playing at the Barrel 6:

- Ishtar
- Gigli
- Final Star Wars trilogy
- Ghostbusters remake with those annoying women
- Barbra Streisand marathon
- Cats

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)

290 Old version better than the new version:

Get Carter. The original Michael Caine version is much, much darker and better than the shitty Stallone reboot.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BAsqb)

291 I liked Firefly when it was called Blake's 7.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (oVJmc)

292 Where does one find Kurosawa movies?

Note, I have disconnected to the extent that this is a serious question.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BiNEL)

293 "you could choose just 2 filmmakers to watch on the proverbial desert island, who would you choose? And for my tastes, I think it is Tarantino and the Cohen Brothers."

--------

Coen Bros and Christopher Nolan.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:05 PM (j4zcI)


Preston Sturges and Howard Hawks.

And I love both the Coen brothers' films, as well as Tarantino's.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (hku12)

294 Brad Pitt's character in Basterds grew up in Maynardville TN. My hometown! However, I don't think anybody in the hollers round here calls them Natzees.

Posted by: jmel at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (OeWgo)

295 286 "...directed by John Boorman, crazy person."
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The genius who gave us Sean Connery running across post-apocalyptic Britain in a red mankini and thigh boots?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (Dc2NZ)

==========

Yes. He is a crazy person.

I think more crazy people should make films, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (zZbCU)

296 Tarantino is doing something interesting with his alternative history. If the history is made up of villains and victims (not true, just the general impression) then heroes do everything in vain.

Posted by: BourbonChicken with Face Colander at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (LxTcq)

297 The double crossing partner.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (2DOZq)

Ah, yes. Delightfully evil and easy to hate.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (BAsqb)

298 I saw Alice Cooper exclaiming that Glen Campbell could snort him some cocaine! Two things: 1) I never thought Glen and Alice hanging out and 2) if Alice Cooper is telling you to cut back, it's time to re-evaluate your life.

Cooper appears in Campbell's excellent Alzheimer's documentary "I'll Be Me". They were golf buddies until Campbell was put in a nursing home full time.

Posted by: Ian S. at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (6XLoz)

299 Hrothgar, the Criterion channel on Netflix should have plenty of Kurosawa flicks for you.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (L2ZTs)

300 292 Where does one find Kurosawa movies?

Note, I have disconnected to the extent that this is a serious question.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BiNEL)

=========

If you actually want a major source, the Criterion Channel has a bunch.

They should have a 14 day free trial, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (zZbCU)

301 I love that Goldfinger has one of the very first promotional product placements in a film... for Kentucky Fried Chicken. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:42 PM (L2ZTs)


Actually, it isn't a product placement. Director Guy Hamilton was English and thought the KFC outlet was a local restaurant and used it for "local color."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (2JVJo)

302 History Revision is something that QT has started making a signature of his films.

So although I didn't expect it at the end of OUATIH, I recognized it.

It's becoming a signature, of sorts.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (YWmx/)

303 Note, I have disconnected to the extent that this is a serious question.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BiNEL)

Criterion.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (BAsqb)

304 Mary, really? Funny.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:17 PM (L2ZTs)

305 Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 04, 2020 09:14 PM (j

Should have included a disclaimer on his movies I haven't seen.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:17 PM (2DOZq)

306 When the going gets tough, the tough order ventilators from China. They know a thing or two about coronavirus!

I went with standard shipping to save some money. They'll be here in six weeks...

Posted by: Gov. Andrew Fredo at April 04, 2020 09:17 PM (cfSLd)

307 Has anyone seen "Cats" on a dare? I'm curious, but yellow.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (Dc2NZ)

308 Evening, 'rons and 'ronettes.

Watched Fiddler on the Roof this afternoon and cried. Why? I don't know - part of it being that the film brings back memories, part of it being Noel Coward's dictum about the potency of cheap music, part because I wear my damned heart on my sleeve and part just sheer depression.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (2JVJo)


Watching the movie, Fiddler on the Roof felt like the longest 6 hours of my life.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (hku12)

309 229 I don't really understand the appeal of Once Upon a Time in Hollywood. I didn't dislike it. But it didn't seem particularly good either.

==

me either
I guess it was the nostalgia factor?
I liked Bad Times at El Royale better, for what I consider to be a similar type of movie

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (G546f)

310
Yes. He is a crazy person.



I think more crazy people should make films, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (zZbCU)


zombie Ken Russell: I couldn't agree more...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (tQSvt)

311 All Hail Eris, me too.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (L2ZTs)

312 Hrothgar, the Criterion channel on Netflix should have plenty of Kurosawa flicks for you.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (L2ZTs)


No Netflix for me! But Thanks
---------------
If you actually want a major source, the Criterion Channel has a bunch.

They should have a 14 day free trial, at least.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:16 PM (zZbCU)

I'll take a look. Thank you.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (BiNEL)

313 Old version better than the new version:

Get Carter. The original Michael Caine version is much, much darker and better than the shitty Stallone reboot.
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BAsqb)


The same holds true for The Italian Job.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (2JVJo)

314 Watching the movie, Fiddler on the Roof felt like the longest 6 hours of my life.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (hku12)

Watch Kenneth Branagh's full length version of Hamlet.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (BAsqb)

315 The scheduling of posts here, particularly on the weekends, has reached "post-joke."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (l9m7l)

316 Hairyback, I thought the Barrel featured Gigli.
Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:13 PM (L2ZTs)

Hahaha.

The horror, the horror.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (Z+IKu)

317
I really like the Coen Brothers.

I've only watched one movie by Florian Henckel-Donnersmarck, but it was the best movie I've ever seen.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (II2Y0)

318 Check and see what else is on TCM on demand besides Seven Samurai. Some are getting old maybe on Web.

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (ZCEU2)

319 "name two film directors who need to be immediately infected with the worst strain of CV imaginable."

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Michael Bay and... goddamit, there's another one that a movie-loving buddy gives me crap for hating, and I can't think of him now.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (j4zcI)

320 307 Has anyone seen "Cats" on a dare? I'm curious, but yellow.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (Dc2NZ)

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I suspect that 90 minutes spent reading the reviews of that film would be more entertaining than watching the film itself.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (XVuno)

321 >>> I'm watching MST3K's "Ator, the Fighting Eagle". Hoooooboy!Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 07:54 PM

I'm watching Robo Vampire on rifftrax. Chinese therefore the hopping vampire variety. The first western person to see a chinese vampire movie probably died from laughter.

Posted by: banana Dream at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (l6b3d)

322 Brad Pitt's character in Basterds grew up in Maynardville TN. My hometown! However, I don't think anybody in the hollers round here calls them Natzees.
Posted by: jmel at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (OeWgo)


People complain about his accent in the film.

I think it was intentional. This was a subtle clue that it was an alternate reality. Not just an alternate history.

Even the spelling, "Basterds," is a small way of conveying that.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (hku12)

323 Taro, he's not a director but how about Kevin Feige?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (L2ZTs)

324 Get Carter. The original Michael Caine version is much, much darker and better than the shitty Stallone reboot.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BAsqb)



The same holds true for The Italian Job.


Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (2JVJo)


And Alfie

Posted by: TheQuietMan at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (Oj41N)

325 319 "name two film directors who need to be immediately infected with the worst strain of CV imaginable."

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Michael Bay and... goddamit, there's another one that a movie-loving buddy gives me crap for hating, and I can't think of him now.
Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (j4zcI)

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I actually think that Bay is a really talented director. He just doesn't give two shits about the scripts he works from. He just films what's there.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (zZbCU)

326 The Barrel playlist:

Cutthroat Island
Gigli
Dune
Waterworld

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (BAsqb)

327 Cicero, LOL.

I believe one of the reviews of Cats begins, "I used to believe in God..."

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (L2ZTs)

328 320 307 Has anyone seen "Cats" on a dare? I'm curious, but yellow.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (Dc2NZ)

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I suspect that 90 minutes spent reading the reviews of that film would be more entertaining than watching the film itself.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 04, 2020 09:20 PM (XVuno)

And what the actual fuck is "jellicle" anyway?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (NWiLs)

329 Baz Lurhman.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (H5knJ)

330 Totally agree with you on "Once Upon a Time..."

That movie totally repudiated and shamed the culture that says hippies and dopers are cool.
They're f**king assholes and killers. Period.

Posted by: PJ at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (qlTN9)

331 oh I saw an awful movie with an excellent cast on amazon
Night Hunter (201

it had Henry Cavill, Ben Kingsley, Alexandra Daddario, Stanley Tucci, Nathan Fillon... and it SUCKED BALLS

Just awful

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (G546f)

332 Vanya, the Barrel could only hope to run movies that great, with the exception of Gigli.

I hear the Barrel 6 also likes to run Glitter from time to time.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (L2ZTs)

333 "Has anyone seen "Cats" on a dare? I'm curious, but yellow."


Can you watch it? Have they released for streaming or on CD? It's probably so bad they're going to bury that one.

Posted by: lowandslow at April 04, 2020 09:22 PM (4thlk)

334 Watching the movie, Fiddler on the Roof felt like the longest 6 hours of my life.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (hku12)


**smiles** Well, to each his own. But while watching the scene where daughter Hodel is waiting for a train to take her to her lover in Siberia, I thought of film writer Jeanne Basinger's take on musical movies being inherently absurd, and thought that the direct realism Norman Jewison brought to Fiddler makes any singing seem absurd and that, perhaps, the movie might have worked better had it been deliberately set in a non-realistic studio setting rather than being filmed in Yugoslavia.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:22 PM (2JVJo)

335 I have to see every Tarantino movie at least twice to notice and understand all of the nuances and details he weaves in. And that's OK with me.

Posted by: Gref at April 04, 2020 09:22 PM (AMIL/)

336 Once Upon a Time ... in Hollywood was one of my favorite movies of the past year or two.
I love Tarantino's revisionist history movies - Inglorious Basterds being my favorite.. but this one was right up there with that one.
Brad Pitt is perfect for his part, and the period cars and scenes are perfect as well.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2020 09:22 PM (CjFDo)

337 low and slow, I believe Cats is actually now available on disc and stream, yes.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:22 PM (L2ZTs)

338 And then I'd KILL HITLER.

Rogue Male.

Posted by: getting the banned before hidden planet at April 04, 2020 09:23 PM (dGdGH)

339 I signed back up for Netflix just to watch Buster Scruggs, after reading it was Coen Brothers original.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:23 PM (YWmx/)

340 And what the actual fuck is "jellicle" anyway?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (NWiLs)

a cutesy slang for "angelical"

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 09:23 PM (G546f)

341 Targets, a 1968 movie with Boris Karloff is on TCM. Doesn't suck much.

Posted by: Eromero at April 04, 2020 09:24 PM (XhWtx)

342 TheJamesMadison

Just looked at Criterion, I could be watching for quite a while, not sure I will dive in but there are so many recommendations for Kurosawa, I really should give him a try, even though I am not really a film aficianado.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:24 PM (BiNEL)

343 @329: "Baz Lurhman."

I could totally see a midnight show double feature of Moulin Rouge and Cats for furries on hallucinogenics.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 04, 2020 09:24 PM (+oVP5)

344 Hidden planet = forbidden planet.

Not hidden fortress.

Posted by: getting the banned back to biden level mentally at April 04, 2020 09:24 PM (dGdGH)

345 Buster Scrugs felt nihilistic

did not like

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 09:24 PM (G546f)

346 I've been watching Constantine while posting. Still amazed at how many very watchable movies Keanu Reeves has made.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (2DOZq)

347 Eromero, John Nolte is a fan of Targets.

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (L2ZTs)

348 The Barrel playlist:
Cutthroat Island
Gigli
Dune
Waterworld
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (BAsqb)

The Postman is slightly worse than Waterworld.....

Oh hell, both sucked ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (Z+IKu)

349 The villain from Serenity is amazing

https://youtu.be/AC9SF7TOyHQ

You can sympathize that he seems to stand for lawful order against chaos.

Epic Rap Battles, Spielberg vs Hitchcock

https://youtu.be/_wYtG7aQTHA

Posted by: BourbonChicken with Face Colander at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (LxTcq)

350 I actually think that Bay is a really talented director. He just doesn't give two shits about the scripts he works from. He just films what's there.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (zZbCU)

This right here^^^^^

Bay is like a ghostwriter, I think. Whaddaya need? Fifty thousand words with a mummy, a plane crash, two sex scenes and an accordion player? Roger that, you'll have a draft in three weeks.

He doesn't care. Giant robots? Whatever. We'll have shaky cam, a shitload of explosions, a comic relief and a hot chick in tight shorts. Oh look, we printed a billion dollars. Same thing again, boss? Roger that, you'll have the rough in six months.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (BAsqb)

351 >I have to see every Tarantino movie at least twice to notice and understand all of the nuances and details he weaves in.


did you see the flame thrower in Rick Dalton's tool shed?

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (iTXRQ)

352 This is a good write-up on Tarantino. I like his movies cause they can be a fun long winded talkfest interrupted by glorious violence and mayhem, and sometimes vicey versa.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 04, 2020 09:26 PM (P1GvV)

353 Vmom,

Hateful 8 is a lousy movie.

Basically, it's Tarantino's Agatha Christie movie with a huge cheat at the end,

stuffed with leftover dialogue from Django Unchained that Tarantino couldn't let go of.

Watch it but it's the most hollow of all his movies.


And "Alien: Covenant" ugh. *barf*

I won't say it's the worst Alien movie. That honor belongs to "Prometheus".

But, it's wrongheaded in every way. Lousy script. surprisingly, piss-poor direction from Ridley Scott.

Perhaps, it's worst offense is the totally alien mystery of the Alien into a robot revenge crapfest.

I think Ridley Scott has Joe Biden Brain.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:26 PM (z0XD8)

354 I really like the Coen Brothers.

I've only watched one movie by Florian Henckel-Donnersmarck, but it was the best movie I've ever seen.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (II2Y0)


The Lives of Others? I have it here, but haven't gotten around to watching it.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:27 PM (hku12)

355
Totally agree with you on "Once Upon a Time..."

That movie totally repudiated and shamed the culture that says hippies and dopers are cool.
They're f**king assholes and killers. Period.


Posted by: PJ
..........
naah.. that is too much of a generalization..
I had long hair, smoked dope and was in rock bands.. I was nowhere near like any of the hippies in that movie. I didn't participate in the war protests, etc. etc..
People are people.. you can't lump people into categories like that.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2020 09:27 PM (CjFDo)

356 The scheduling of posts here, particularly on the weekends, has reached "post-joke."

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (l9m7l)


BeckChas, once you are older than 29, it is comforting to have patterns of behaviour that we can more or less depend upon as being immutable!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:28 PM (BiNEL)

357 351 >I have to see every Tarantino movie at least twice to notice and understand all of the nuances and details he weaves in.


did you see the flame thrower in Rick Dalton's tool shed?

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (iTXRQ)


If it's in-view when Brad Pitt goes in for tools to fix the antenna, no. Will look for it next time.

Posted by: Gref at April 04, 2020 09:28 PM (AMIL/)

358 The Barrel playlist:
Cutthroat Island
Gigli
Dune
Waterworld
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (BAsqb)


Eh. "DUNE" doesn't belong on that list.

It's a near great movie. One of the few where maybe 125 more minutes would've pushed it into movie immortality.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:28 PM (z0XD8)

359 I think I saw Cats somewhere - either NY or London - about 183 years after it was a new big hit. Sub-meh. Hard to believe. With all of these things, I don't for a second doubt the talent and hard work of the people putting it on. Just does nothing for me.

Happy to discover that Life and Fate, based on Vasiliy Grossman's WWII novel (Stalingrad, elsewhere in USSR) is free on Prime. Whole bunch of episodes, so there's some time kilt during the lockdown.

Front-running manana's book thread, highly recommend the annotated translation of Grossman's war-time diary, A Writer at War.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 04, 2020 09:28 PM (El6T/)

360 Old version better than the new version:



Get Carter. The original Michael Caine version is much, much darker and better than the shitty Stallone reboot.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:15 PM (BAsqb)



The same holds true for The Italian Job.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (2JVJo)

Red Dawn, Point Break just to name a few closer to b type movies that were really good. There are the rare remakes like 3:10 to Yuma and True Grit that are at least decent films. But mainly remakes are a horrible waste of time these days. Then again, the other option is super hero and star wars universes.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 09:29 PM (hHxp2)

361 Fun fact. Alice Cooper and Groucho Marx were friends. Marx called Alice's shows a vaudeville act. Alice agreed.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:29 PM (j4zcI)

362 I went with standard shipping to save some money. They'll be here in six weeks...

Posted by: Gov. Andrew Fredo



*snort*

Posted by: deplorable unperson - END THE LOCKDOWN : It's just a damn bug at April 04, 2020 09:29 PM (59YkD)

363 This is going to be the next movie I watch: Final Cut Ladies and Gentlemen.

https://tinyurl.com/vwzeg2d

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:30 PM (2JVJo)

364 I'm going old school tonight. Watching Goldfinger. Best Bond film ever.

Honor Blackman who played Pussy Galore was actually a competitive Judo Blackbelt.

Speaking of Judo, one of the movies I watched during this lockdown was Cocktail with Tom Cruz and Elizabeth Shue. Cruz was a high school wrestler, and not an easy person to throw. The scene where she throws him on the beach was an ad libbed rehearsal, and there was a camera running on that rehearsal - which is how the throw, a drop step O-Soto Gari made it into the film.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:30 PM (le57Z)

365 354 I have her great great grest grandfather in a miniature the first Count Henkel von Donnersmarck

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 09:30 PM (ZCEU2)

366 The Barrel playlist:

Cutthroat Island
Gigli
Dune
Waterworld

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:21 PM (BAsqb)
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So Solarbabies finished it's run?

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:30 PM (YWmx/)

367 I liked Kill Bill Vol 2 better than Vol 1

Posted by: jmel at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (OeWgo)

368 Watching the movie, Fiddler on the Roof felt like the longest 6 hours of my life.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:18 PM (hku12)

Watch Kenneth Branagh's full length version of Hamlet.
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:19 PM (BAsqb)


Naw, I think his Hamlet is fantastic. It's probably sacrilegious to say this, but I think it's better than Olivier's.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (hku12)

369 So, started my subscription to the Criterion channel. I'm watching the hell out of the Mifune film festival.

Money well spent.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (d1uFV)

370 The Postman is slightly worse than Waterworld.....

Oh hell, both sucked ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (Z+IKu)


Dude, I liked The Postman.

But per a book thread tip from our own Anna, the book is far more interesting!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (BiNEL)

371 Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:28 PM (z0X

The only thing I disliked was they apparently ran out of money and let a high school Audio Video Club do the special effects at the end of the movie.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (2DOZq)

372 Waterworld. Heh.
Wound up with realistic looking but featherweight jetski prop motor made of foam from that abortion. *Accidentally* dropped it on a friends cherry motorcycle - of course no harm but his reaction priceless.

Posted by: getting the banned back together for pranks at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (dGdGH)

373 Cruise not Cruz sorry.\

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (le57Z)

374 Last time I drove past I noticed that one of the catamarans from Water World, which was moored at a dock near where my friend had his boat, is now gone. Was there for years. Friend said he never saw it out, or any people on it.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (El6T/)

375 OUATIH seems to me Tarantino's commentary on metoo and 21st century feminism in general. Weinstein was Tarantino's patron, recall. Dead give away is the scene with DiCaprio and his young co-star killing time, reading their books. DiCaprio's character is having a midlife breakdown and the precocious 8 year old girl is comforting him, even encouraging him. Until he calls her "princess face" or some other mindless endearment, while he's thanking her. She stops cold, changes her to e and scolds him. "I don't like being called princess face. I know you're upset now, so we'll deal with this later." Then she walks away. The other bit is when Pitt comes out of Spahn's cabin. Annie McDowell's daughter is at the bottom of the steps, pissed off and ready for battle. Pitt slumps his shoulders, and you can just about hear him think I g "all I did was give her a tucking ride, talk politely to her and now she thinks she owns me."

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (ja/kn)

376 I've been watching Constantine while posting. Still amazed at how many very watchable movies Keanu Reeves has made.
Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (2DOZq)


Greatest portrayal of Satan evah.

That whole scene reeks creepy.

Though my second favorite Satan from "The Prophecy" is awfully good as well.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (z0XD8)

377 369 So, started my subscription to the Criterion channel. I'm watching the hell out of the Mifune film festival.

Money well spent.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (d1uFV)

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I keep thinking about watching that, but then a new wave of releases hit the channels I already subscribe to and I'm all, "Well, there's another ten movies from my queue ready for me to watch."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

378 Don't the show "Showgirls" in the barrel?

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:33 PM (iTXRQ)

379 Best Branagh film in my estimation is Dead Again.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:33 PM (YWmx/)

380 One of my favorite scenes from Firefly.

"May have been the losing side. Still not convinced it was the wrong one."
https://youtu.be/JZtSLO4tsH0

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 04, 2020 09:34 PM (P1GvV)

381 Greatest portrayal of Satan evah.

That whole scene reeks creepy.
Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (z0XD


Peter Stormare is versatile as hell.

Posted by: hogmartin at April 04, 2020 09:34 PM (t+qrx)

382 Don't know if still there, but not far from where I mentioned the Water World boat was, the sailing ship used in Master and Commander was moored, as part of the Maritime Museum. Reminds me, we've got a free admission to that museum when we emerge from our bunkers.

Posted by: rhomboid at April 04, 2020 09:34 PM (El6T/)

383 Don't the show "Showgirls" in the barrel?
Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:33 PM (iTXRQ)

Damn, I forgot about that.

Full frontal female nudity and I turned it off halfway. Jesus that movie sucks.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:34 PM (BAsqb)

384 I think Carpenter's Prince of Darkness is one of the best movies about the Devil.

Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (YWmx/)

385 379 Best Branagh film in my estimation is Dead Again.
Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:33 PM (YWmx/)

*hi five*

one of my favorite movies

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (G546f)

386 The Postman is slightly worse than Waterworld.....

Oh hell, both sucked ass.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at April 04, 2020 09:25 PM (Z+IKu)

Dude, I liked The Postman.

But per a book thread tip from our own Anna, the book is far more interesting!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:31 PM (BiNEL)


I think Kostner films, like M. Night Shamalamadingdong films, are lambasted way more than they deserve.

Are they great cinema? No they are not, but I'd rather watch those guys' film than, say, Bruckheimer and Bay crap.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (hku12)

387 And props, TJM, on the Tarantino ariticle.

I mostly agree, though I don't like the Hateful 8 and I refuse to watch Django Unchained.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (d1uFV)

388
The Lives of Others? I have it here, but haven't gotten around to watching it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:27 PM (hku12)

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Watch it. It's a case study in the total degradation of human character by the will to power.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (II2Y0)

389 Sorry, I was finishing the movie. qdpsteve.. that's so funny you mentioned that because I never noticed it until I watched it tonight! I know the movie is campy but I just love it. I remember seeing it in the theater. Yeah.. I'm THAT old. They had a smoking section in upper part of the theater. Sat there with my mom.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (dUJdY)

390 Devils Advocate was another good Keanu movie with the Devil.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (2DOZq)

391 I'm going old school tonight. Watching Goldfinger. Best Bond film ever.

I love Goldfinger, but it veers just a little too close to silliness, IMO. My "best" is From Russia With Love.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (2JVJo)

392 "I got a message for you and you're not going to like it..."

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (7s3Gx)

393 Full frontal female nudity and I turned it off halfway. Jesus that movie sucks.
Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:34 PM (BAsqb)


This is why God provided the mute button.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (Zz0t1)

394 I firmly believe that Kill Bill 1 & 2 are The Greatest Movie Ever Made. So much story, every line and scene is memorable, the characters are well-written and compelling, even the evil ones. Such varied locations and sets. Just magnificent and cannot be topped.

And I just as firmly think that The Hateful 8 is easily the worst piece of trash in the history of cinema. It is utterly unwatchable, has absolutely zero redeeming qualities, and in my opinion was simply the vehicle through which Tarantino exercised his certifiably insane need to get away with having the word "n*gger" come out of his characters' mouths a couple of hundred times without him being rightly blacklisted by Hollywood. I watched it in disgust and disbelief, wondering how the same person could possibly have made KB 1 & 2. One of life's great mysteries, I guess.

Your Mileage May Vary, of course.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 04, 2020 09:37 PM (i+3WY)

395 The Lives of Others? I have it here, but haven't gotten around to watching it.
Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:27 PM (hku12)

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Watch it. It's a case study in the total degradation of human character by the will to power.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (II2Y0)


Yes, I think I know what to expect, more or less, and that's why I haven't watched it yet. I don't necessarily need to be reminded. Especially right now.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:37 PM (hku12)

396 "The villain from Serenity is amazing...You can sympathize that he seems to stand for lawful order against chaos. "

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No, I can't, and no, he doesn't. He stands for using the power of an overbearing we-know-what's-best government to make the world a "better place" no matter who he has to kill to do it.

Posted by: Taro Tsujimoto at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (j4zcI)

397 I keep thinking about watching that, but then a new wave of releases hit the channels I already subscribe to and I'm all, "Well, there's another ten movies from my queue ready for me to watch."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

I'm biased, but I'd rather watch Mifune act than almost anything released in the last 10 years.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (d1uFV)

398 The Postman is worse than Waterworld

Posted by: Skip at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (ZCEU2)

399 Where's Bander? He's a Tarantino Superfanboi.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 08:01 PM (Dc2NZ)



I'm here darlin', are you still? I hit ctrl+F5 "eris". Because that's what I do.

And yes, I'm a Superfanboi. I can't believe Madison got something right.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (gd9RK)

400 Dinner time here. I'm going to watch The Shining.

I bought a Kubrick anthology recently. Because I tend to rag on him. I think I owe him a second look. Or third look, in some cases.

Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (hku12)

401 397 I keep thinking about watching that, but then a new wave of releases hit the channels I already subscribe to and I'm all, "Well, there's another ten movies from my queue ready for me to watch."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

I'm biased, but I'd rather watch Mifune act than almost anything released in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (d1uFV)

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They're rarely "new". The most recent that I dropped everything to watch because it suddenly came back to Prime was Marty.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (zZbCU)

402 They had a smoking section in upper part of the theater. Sat there with my mom.
Posted by: Jewells45

oh, I remember different ticket prices for movies dependon what section!
Orchestra (ground) was cheapest, balcony (upper was second cheapest) and loge (the seats where you could spit on the cheapskate orchestra watchers) was the mosr expensive.

And double features!

Posted by: vmom 2020 at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (G546f)

403 Posted by: BurtTC at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (hku12)

I view Costner as a competent workman-like actor, not sure I will ever watch any of his films a second time, but the first viewing was always worth the time for me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (BiNEL)

404 Time to move from COVID-19 back to COED-18

Posted by: SMOD at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (X5CsJ)

405 399 And yes, I'm a Superfanboi. I can't believe Madison got something right.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (gd9RK)

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I get so much right.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (zZbCU)

406 Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (2JVJo)

Well as I said it IS campy.. and To Russia With Love is also a great Bond flick...agreed.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:40 PM (dUJdY)

407 .Your Mileage May Vary, of course.
Posted by: Sharkman


I agree
Hateful Eight is QT's stinker

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:40 PM (iTXRQ)

408 Love the write up on QT. Hands down, there is no one better at dialogue and to me, his character development is great because his dialogue is amazing.

I usually get like four out of ten film references he makes but I don't have to get them to know what he's trying to do in paying homage to what he grew up watching.

A true master. Ask me to watch Schindler's list ten times and I'd say nah, bro. Ask me to watch Kill Bill ten times and I'd laugh because I've already watched it twenty.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:40 PM (JFe9H)

409 Saw “Citizen Kane” again recently. The cinematography still looks avant garde. I liked how close ups were just a hair TOO close, making the subjects into leering caricatures of themselves. In one scene they looked like faces from a James Ensor painting.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:40 PM (Dc2NZ)

410 This is why God provided the mute button.
Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 09:36 PM (Zz0t1)

Mute wouldn't have saved it. The whole thing is just gross. I don't know, maybe it's secretly genius, and Verhoeven's making this commentary on the sex trade or industry or something that's meant to weird you out.

Watching that movie is like being in a strip club, stone cold sober. It isn't fun, it isn't sexy, it isn't hot, it's just fucking gross. The last straw for me was that scene where the main character is sitting on her boyfriend's lap and he asks if she wants to screw. She says no, she's on her period. He says she's BSing just to put him off. She spreads her thighs and says, "Check."

Click. Eject. We're done here.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:40 PM (BAsqb)

411 Westworld is another example. I think I saw a few episodes of the modern version and it was ok but went way to off the rails. The original movie was great.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 09:41 PM (hHxp2)

412 114 Did anyone here ever see what is probably Spike Lee's most controversial film, Bamboozled?

Posted by: qdpsteve at April 04, 2020 08:31 PM (L2ZTs)


Yes. I found it disturbing in a way I can't really describe.

Posted by: a.moron at April 04, 2020 09:41 PM (bjCNA)

413 374 Last time I drove past I noticed that one of the catamarans from Water World, which was moored at a dock near where my friend had his boat, is now gone. Was there for years. Friend said he never saw it out, or any people on it.
Posted by: rhomboid at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (El6T/)

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I used to take the Metrorail train into LA everyday. I remember that it passed by a piece of property in East LA that held the Exxon Valdez set from Waterworld. Right in the middle of a bunch of grimy industrial yards and ramshackle houses.

It was there for a long time.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 04, 2020 09:41 PM (XVuno)

414 One of the movies I'll be re-watching shortly is Michael Caine's Harry Brown which demonstrates that a low budget film can be very powerful. The Actor who plays the drug dealer/gun runner gives an awesome performance.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (le57Z)

415 I'm going old school tonight. Watching Goldfinger. Best Bond film ever.



I love Goldfinger, but it veers just a little too close to silliness, IMO. My "best" is From Russia With Love.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing
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Goldfinger has my most favorite Bond scene.. he is driving his Astin Martin with thugs in pursuit. He has a wry smile on his face.. you know this is where he gets his kicks.. it is what exhilarates him.
But From Russia With Love is one of the best.. the least gimmicky ones..

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (CjFDo)

416 414 One of the movies I'll be re-watching shortly is Michael Caine's Harry Brown which demonstrates that a low budget film can be very powerful. The Actor who plays the drug dealer/gun runner gives an awesome performance.
Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (le57Z)

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Low budget British film with power?

Kes. My review is linked in the post.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (zZbCU)

417 They're rarely "new". The most recent that I dropped everything to watch because it suddenly came back to Prime was Marty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (zZbCU)


"Marty" is a great "small" movie.

Lovely portrait of regular folks lovingly done. Great script.

And man, was Ernest Borgnine good in that.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (z0XD8)

418 My guilty pleasure Costner movie is 3000 Miles To Graceland.

His quality movies are Open Range, Mr Brooks and Perfect World.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (2DOZq)

419 Showgirls was so bad, that it was one of those rare movies that wrecked the careers of anyone who had anything to do with it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (q3gwH)

420 Hrothgar.. my favorite Costner movie is A Perfect World. I thought he was great in it and he's not really that good of an actor.. but Eastwood brought out the best in him.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (dUJdY)

421 Open Range is really good.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (BAsqb)

422 Showgirls was so bad, that it was one of those rare movies that wrecked the careers of anyone who had anything to do with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (q3gwH)

Good.

Posted by: Vanya at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (BAsqb)

423 I view Costner as a competent workman-like actor,
not sure I will ever watch any of his films a second time, but the first
viewing was always worth the time for me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (BiNEL)

Field of Dreams and Bull Durham were great movies. The first half of Dances with Wolves was good too.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (hHxp2)

424 Costner has made some stinkers, but he's made some very good movies.

Open Range
Mr. Brooks
A Perfect World
Fandango
and Waterworld

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (P1GvV)

425 Love Tarantino, all his movies are entertaining. Didn't love Once upon a Time the 1st time i saw it but i plan on rewatching it tonight.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (bhBSF)

426 My guilty pleasure Costner movie is 3000 Miles To Graceland.

Oh God I love that movie!! Only saw once in the theater. I would love to see it again.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (dUJdY)

427 Blah blah blah...but what was in that freakin suit case?

Posted by: Orson at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (Npe2A)

428 427 Blah blah blah...but what was in that freakin suit case?
Posted by: Orson at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (Npe2A)

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Marcellus Wallace's soul.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (zZbCU)

429 I wonder how many households it takes to produce the equivalent of just the physical trash discarded from one movie like Waterworld.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (41rs/)

430 Open Range

Mr. Brooks

A Perfect World

Fandango

and Waterworld

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (P1GvV)

Open Range for sure.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 09:45 PM (hHxp2)

431 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (zZbCU)

TJM, did you check my link for Final Cut Ladies and Gentlemen? I would think that would be right up your alley.

Here's a trailer:

https://tinyurl.com/saz23yw

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:45 PM (2JVJo)

432 My favorite Costner movie is one of his first, Fandango. I actually sort of knew the guy who wrote it. Coming of age - Goodbye to University movie, and fantastic Pat Methany soundtrack.

Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 09:45 PM (q3gwH)

433 Costner was awesome in both Open Range and Mr Brooks. MB especially. He really pulled off the psychopath. Enough so I thought he might be in real life.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (JFe9H)

434 >Marcellus Wallace's soul.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison,


how did the Tim Roth character know what it was then

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (iTXRQ)

435 Low budget British film with power?

Kes. My review is linked in the post.

-

I second this.

Posted by: Moron Robbie has got the Kung Fu Grippe at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (41rs/)

436 431 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (zZbCU)

TJM, did you check my link for Final Cut Ladies and Gentlemen? I would think that would be right up your alley.

Here's a trailer:

https://tinyurl.com/saz23yw
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:45 PM (2JVJo)

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That looks...interesting.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (zZbCU)

437 I'm nor a fan of Costner or his movies. I have to go way back in his career to find a decent one. Like Silverado or No Way Out.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (H5knJ)

438
I'm still vaguely pissed that "Mr Brooks" did so poorly at the box office that the planned on trilogy was never completed.

One of Costner's best movies and performances.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (z0XD8)

439 On Her Majesty's Secret Service could have been a great movie if Lazenby wasn't such a stiff. Top tier Bond flick as is, but could have been even better.

Posted by: occam's brassiere at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (ja/kn)

440 Oh, and I would be remiss if I didn't say that if Von Trier was trying to make 100 percent of the audience of Melancholia pray fervently that the Planet or Moon or SMOD that eventually ended his utterly miserable and boring characters' meaningless lives WOULD JUST GET HERE AND FUCKING KILL THEM ALREADY, FOR THE LOVE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD!!!!! Well, he succeeded.

Posted by: Sharkman at April 04, 2020 09:47 PM (i+3WY)

441 414 One of the movies I'll be re-watching shortly is Michael Caine's Harry Brown which demonstrates that a low budget film can be very powerful. The Actor who plays the drug dealer/gun runner gives an awesome performance.
Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (le57Z)

Indeed. Feral and degenerate.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:47 PM (NWiLs)

442 401 397 I keep thinking about watching that, but then a new wave of releases hit the channels I already subscribe to and I'm all, "Well, there's another ten movies from my queue ready for me to watch."
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:32 PM (zZbCU)

I'm biased, but I'd rather watch Mifune act than almost anything released in the last 10 years.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:38 PM (d1uFV)

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They're rarely "new". The most recent that I dropped everything to watch because it suddenly came back to Prime was Marty.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:39 PM (zZbCU)

Borgnine had a lot of range, back when actors weren't all pretty (see also Bogart)

I rarely actually watch the movies I want to, cuz wife, but I'm making an effort to watch all the Mifune I can this month while it's featured on Criterion.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:47 PM (d1uFV)

443 I view Costner as a competent workman-like actor, not sure I will ever
watch any of his films a second time, but the first viewing was always
worth the time for me!


I thought The Bodyguard was his best work. His character in that movie comes the closest to my personality of any movie I've ever seen.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (le57Z)

444 I'm nor a fan of Costner or his movies. I have to go way back in his career to find a decent one. Like Silverado or No Way Out.

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at April 04, 2020 09:46 PM (H5knJ)
both great. I won't give him credit for Silverado but he was good in it. No Way Out was excellent.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (hHxp2)

445 A Costner movie I like is Thirteen Days, about the Cuban Missile Crisis, though of course it suffers from the "JFK saved the world from his bomb-happy generals" viewpoint.

Bruce Greenwood is a great JFK and Costner puts down the worst "Bahh-ston" accent ever on film.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (2JVJo)

446 Any lesson in life you might need, can be learned from 'Dumbo'. Everything else is crap.

Posted by: Dumbo at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (CDGwz)

447 419 Showgirls was so bad, that it was one of those rare movies that wrecked the careers of anyone who had anything to do with it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (q3gwH)
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It was truly awful. I was on TDY with a bunch of dudes and it was one of the few DVDs available. Like, it was Mr. Bean or Showgirls, and we'd seen every Bean show. We watched it as a joke. We all agreed it was garbage.

Gina Gershon managed to ride the wave of sleeze to shore safely and it didn't seem to hurt her career.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (Dc2NZ)

448 One thing I love about Tarentino is his penchant for going and getting previously 'superstar' actors who aren't so much anymore and giving them absolutely delightful roles.

He did it for Travolta. Same for Kurt Russel and Daryl Hannah.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (JFe9H)

449 I thought The Bodyguard was his best work. His character in that movie comes the closest to my personality of any movie I've ever seen.
Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (le57Z)

C'mon. There's no way you're THAT boring and devoid of personality.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (NWiLs)

450 Gina Gershon managed to ride the wave of sleeze to shore safely and it didn't seem to hurt her career.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (Dc2NZ)

Gina Gershon's best movie was Bound.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at April 04, 2020 09:49 PM (2DOZq)

451 **Check**

Mmmm, bloodwings.

Posted by: nope at April 04, 2020 09:49 PM (4erAA)

452 Mister Brooks and The Highwaymen are my favorite Costner films. I don't really count Silverado as a 'Coster' film but if it is...I'll add that too.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at April 04, 2020 09:49 PM (d1uFV)

453 I just watched Targets (196 on TCM. Directed and acted in by Peter Bogdanovich. Boris Karloff was the hero. I was obsessed with the set decoration and color scheme at the sniper's home. Lavenders, blues, yellows, and white. Karloff's hotel suite was great too.

An obscure actor named Tim O'Kelly played the sniper. He looks like a lot of other actors, vaguely familiar. I thought ole neckerchief would do more with Boris in the climactic scene at the drive-in but for a first directorial effort it wasn't too bad.

At one point Pete and Boris are lying on a bed together, clothed, worse the wear from booze. Pete is passed out. Boris turns out the light. A long pause, then we see an alert Pete's face as he lights a cigarette. (!!!!)

Posted by: JuJuBee at April 04, 2020 09:50 PM (Rvqyz)

454
Literally. I'm watching MST3K's "Ator, the Fighting Eagle". Hoooooboy!

How much Keeffe we got? Miles O'Keeffe

If ever there was a movie that needed more gratuitous nudity to save it from itself, this is it.

Posted by: Fox2! at April 04, 2020 09:50 PM (qyH+l)

455 Indeed. Feral and degenerate.
Posted by: Insomniac
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Neglectful, however.

Posted by: His Weapon at April 04, 2020 09:50 PM (CDGwz)

456 @429: "I wonder how many households it takes to produce the equivalent of just the physical trash discarded from one movie like Waterworld."

They had to rebuild one of the most elaborate sets from scratch after a Pacific cyclone (hurricane) destroyed it mid-production.

Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (+oVP5)

457 428 427 Blah blah blah...but what was in that freakin suit case?
Posted by: Orson at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (Npe2A)

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Marcellus Wallace's soul.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:44 PM (zZbCU)


___________________

That's assumed...to be honest I was just being a wise ass. I saw an interview with Tarantino and he answered that question perfectly. He made it clear that it doesn't matter what it was. It's a vague maGuffin...and that's all it was meant to be. I think that's why I enjoy his films so much. He doesn't conform a lot of the time, and doesn't apologize for doing exactly what HE wants to do. That, and the dialogue. The boy writes some great dialogue...sometimes to a fault.

Posted by: Orson at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (Npe2A)

458 I have to work on my book tomorrow, but then decide what movie I want to watch. I'm torn between Masie Gets Her Man with Ann Sothern or Sweet Rosie O'Grady with Betty Grable.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (2JVJo)

459 456 @429: "I wonder how many households it takes to produce the equivalent of just the physical trash discarded from one movie like Waterworld."

They had to rebuild one of the most elaborate sets from scratch after a Pacific cyclone (hurricane) destroyed it mid-production.
Posted by: Walter Freeman at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (+oVP5)

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"Some people have all the luck."
-Terry Gilliam

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (zZbCU)

460 I always took QT's use of the briefcase as a macguffin, itself and homage to macguffins.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (JFe9H)

461 Mmmm...sausage McGuffin...

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at April 04, 2020 09:52 PM (NWiLs)

462 They had to rebuild one of the most elaborate sets from scratch after a Pacific cyclone (hurricane) destroyed it mid-production.

Heard the sea anchors gouged the hell out of some "protected" coral beds.

Posted by: getting the banned to watch a fishy story at April 04, 2020 09:53 PM (4erAA)

463
C'mon. There's no way you're THAT boring and devoid of personality.


I was thrilled when mathematicians decided zero was a number and not a place holder - as that meant I did have a personality.

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:53 PM (le57Z)

464 I don't really count Silverado as a 'Coster' film but if it is...I'll add that too.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards
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Several good quotes in that movie:

"Now, I don't want kill you, and you don't want to be dead.."

"You know, a good smelly saloon is my favorite place in the world."

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 04, 2020 09:53 PM (CDGwz)

465 Gina Gershon managed to ride the wave of sleeze to shore safely and it didn't seem to hurt her career.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at April 04, 2020 09:48 PM (Dc2NZ)


She's made some terribly whorrific movies and still managed to have a long career.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 09:54 PM (Zz0t1)

466 I always took QT's use of the briefcase as a macguffin, itself and homage to macguffins.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (JFe9H)



Nah. That's one of Tarantino's steals (or homage, if you prefer) from another movie.

In this case, the film noir movie "Kiss Me Deadly".

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:54 PM (z0XD8)

467 Whenever I think of Showgirls, all I see is the ice cube scene.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:54 PM (JFe9H)

468 Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:43 PM (dUJdY)

I don't think I ever saw that, I'll have to look for it!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 09:55 PM (BiNEL)

469
I always took QT's use of the briefcase as a macguffin, itself and homage to macguffins.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:51 PM (JFe9H)

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Totally. It matters not a whit to the story. It could be drugs, money, evidence, something more metaphysical, whatever. The story doesn't change. It's just a thing. I always saw it as a wink and a nod, breaking the fourth wall kind of thing.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:55 PM (II2Y0)

470
I was thrilled when mathematicians decided zero was a number and not a place holder - as that meant I did have a personality.
Posted by: An Observation
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You might enjoy 'Unknown Quantity: A Real and Imaginary History of Algebra', Derbyshire. Yes, *that* Derbyshire. Quite an interesting read.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at April 04, 2020 09:55 PM (xSo9G)

471
In this case, the film noir movie "Kiss Me Deadly".

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:54 PM (z0XD8


Whatz it?

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:56 PM (JFe9H)

472 To me Costner's best movie is Perfect World.

Posted by: Ben Had at April 04, 2020 09:56 PM (0jFNh)

473 One of the movies I'll be re-watching shortly is Michael Caine's Harry Brown which demonstrates that a low budget film can be very powerful. The Actor who plays the drug dealer/gun runner gives an awesome performance.
Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:42 PM (le57Z)

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I've basically never seen a revenge flick I didn't enjoy, but I did sure like that one.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at April 04, 2020 09:56 PM (II2Y0)

474 okay name the most worn-out movie clichés


"I want your badge and your gun!"

Posted by: DB- just DB, under house arrest at April 04, 2020 09:58 PM (iTXRQ)

475 A Perfect World has been on cable a lot recently, a good film.

Posted by: Dr Spank at April 04, 2020 09:58 PM (bhBSF)

476 Hrothgar.. when it came out the little kid in it looked just my nephew at the time. And look for an easter egg in it. I won't say what it is but just make sure you are checking out the scenery BEHIND Costner.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:58 PM (dUJdY)

477 I knew you had excellent taste Ben!

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 09:59 PM (dUJdY)

478 I liked Costner's Robin Hood. It was so bad it was good. And the sheriff stole it!

Posted by: jmel at April 04, 2020 09:59 PM (OeWgo)

479
I have to work on my book tomorrow, but then decide what movie I want to watch. I'm torn between Masie Gets Her Man with Ann Sothern or Sweet Rosie O'Grady with Betty Grable.


My cue includes To Catch a Thief with Grace Kelly, who was really beautiful and a terrible driver. (See also High Society for confirmation)

Posted by: An Observation at April 04, 2020 09:59 PM (le57Z)

480 Worn out movie cliches?

Long list.

I'll add the protagonist sitting on a couch with a bottle of booze smoking cigarettes in the dark as a way to show despair.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 10:00 PM (JFe9H)

481 Tarantino is probably the most creative borrower ever.

Upon a Time in Hollywood is probably his most wholly original film and concept among his films.

It's pretty good, except for the Bruce Lee scene which was completely uncalled for.

Posted by: Inspector Johnson at April 04, 2020 10:00 PM (U8WBs)

482 Worn out cliche: When the chief hits the top of the cop car after the perp has been arrested and the car drives away. How do you hear that? It's usually chaos and all going on

Posted by: jmel at April 04, 2020 10:00 PM (OeWgo)

483 No love for the Postman?

Lulz

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 10:01 PM (JFe9H)

484 Who directed Josey Wales? He's my favorite director.

Posted by: Wenda at April 04, 2020 10:01 PM (tnRL3)

485 In this case, the film noir movie "Kiss Me Deadly".

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 09:54 PM (z0XD8


Whatz it?
Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 09:56 PM (JFe9H)



That's a bit of a spoiler so I won't tell.

But, it provides a nicely horrific ending.

"Kiss Me Deadly" is one of the classics, so it's easy to find, if you care to.

Or, there's always wikipedia.

Posted by: naturalfake at April 04, 2020 10:01 PM (z0XD8)

486 It's pretty good, except for the Bruce Lee scene which was completely uncalled for.
Posted by: Inspector Johnson at April 04, 2020 10:00 PM (U8WBs)


I thought it was hilarious.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at April 04, 2020 10:02 PM (JFe9H)

487 384 I think Carpenter's Prince of Darkness is one of the best movies about the Devil.
Posted by: Axeman at April 04, 2020 09:35 PM (YWmx/)

That movie creeps me out, and the Dreams that repeat for anyone who sleeps there. The Devil is real and is from another dimension.

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at April 04, 2020 10:02 PM (dKiJG)

488 And the sheriff stole it!

Oh God..my memory is so awful but yes the actor who played him was hilarious! That movie holds a special place in my heart.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 10:02 PM (dUJdY)

489 ONT IS NOOD

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at April 04, 2020 10:02 PM (XVuno)

490 N
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Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at April 04, 2020 10:02 PM (BiNEL)

491 My cue includes To Catch a Thief with Grace Kelly, who was really beautiful and a terrible driver. (See also High Society for confirmation)

I've got The Taking of Pelham 123 (the original) and 1984 in my queue, but I don't feel like watching them just yet.

Erich von Stroheim couldn't drive either. For the scene in Sunset Boulevard where he drives through the Paramount gate, the car was towed in, but Stroheim still managed to run into the gate itself.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at April 04, 2020 10:02 PM (2JVJo)

492 Alan Rickman. RIP He was great.

Posted by: Jewells45 at April 04, 2020 10:03 PM (dUJdY)

493 It's pretty good, except for the Bruce Lee scene which was completely uncalled for.


I had a friend complain about that. You have to recognize that that was loving. Tarantino had a whole movie where Uma was dressed as Bruce Lee. He loves Bruce Lee.

In Hollywood he has Rick Dalton hate spaghetti westerns. If there weren't spaghetti westerns there would be no Tarantino.

I say don't take it so seriously. It's a mash note.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at April 04, 2020 10:05 PM (gd9RK)

494 Re-watching:
1. Omega Man with Charleton Heston. World stops in March due to biological war between China and Russia.

2. The Andromeda Strain. Scared the turkey stuffing outta me as a kid.

3. Silverado. Western escape. Yes, some (most) of the actors in it really pissed me off since it was made, but still love the movie.

Posted by: TakeFive at April 04, 2020 10:29 PM (uvVVT)

495 74 I saw Inglorious Bastards. Where it had it's moments, I thought it overall, sucked.

Posted by: Sponge - China is asshoe! at April 04, 2020 08:22 PM

THIS

Posted by: Cybersmythe at April 04, 2020 10:31 PM (edlKR)

496 Thoughts on Tarantino:

OVERRATED

Posted by: Traddy at April 04, 2020 10:52 PM (5f0Sh)

497 've got The Taking of Pelham 123 (the original) and 1984 in my queue, but I don't feel like watching them just yet.

One more example of a movie that should never have been remade.

Posted by: Quint at April 04, 2020 10:56 PM (hHxp2)

498 Tarantino's overratedness is an artform all its own.

Posted by: klaftern at April 04, 2020 11:00 PM (RuIsu)

499 Swine fuck Reynolds and his gang of death ghouls over at instapansy are starting to sweat the virus isn't going as badly they predicted. That group of panic mongers have been leading the economic fratricide wave since Feb 10th. Never forget what he and his bastards supported.

Posted by: TeleSkier at April 04, 2020 11:25 PM (ua1m6)

500 Chi-Town Jerry, yes I was a hippie kind of too.
But out here in L.A. people did kinda think the Manson family was cool, until they killed a bunch of people. They just have no judgment, and they still don't.

Posted by: PJ at April 04, 2020 11:26 PM (qlTN9)

501 I'm not a big Tarantino fan, but I was pleasantly surprised by "Once Upon a Time..." and thought it was the best movie of the year (given the relatively sparse competition).

However, one point of the revisionist history at the end of the film that I'm surprised you didn't point out was Roman Polanski's potential redemption. One can assume that if Tate didn't get murdered, Polanski wouldn't have gotten into his trouble. I would guess that Tarantino believes (as do most in Hollywood) that Polanski has been unfairly persecuted over the years, and this is a sort of homage to the guy Tarantino respects as a filmmaker.

Posted by: necron at April 05, 2020 12:38 AM (hCqcJ)

502 Of all the threads to miss I miss the Tarantino thread. Mutha fucka.

Posted by: ... at April 05, 2020 01:02 AM (uEbPt)

503 The legend of Pai Mei is a highly entertaining mini-story within a great story in Kill Bill.

The idea that an old man could pluck your eye in just one quick move, break wood with his fist, and execute a fatal attack that will kill you after you take 5 steps was... hmm legendary.

Posted by: nono at April 05, 2020 02:15 AM (TYVzD)

504 I'm thinking of starting a YouTube channel.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at April 04, 2020 08:36 PM (zZbCU)

I'll watch it! Movie review sites are my favorites.

Posted by: Gem at April 05, 2020 02:46 AM (65i3Q)

505 I'm not sure what thread it was, on but thank you to whoever recced "The Guard" with Brendan Gleeson and Don Cheadle.

Really great flick.

Posted by: Gem at April 05, 2020 02:51 AM (65i3Q)

506 I find Tarantino a mixed bag, the high points being Pulp Fiction and Jackie Brown. I don't get the adulation for Kill Bill at all.
When it comes to his; crafty references to earlier cinema, I wish he was obsessed with better movies.

Posted by: Brett at April 05, 2020 09:04 AM (YCnFz)

507
Coincidentally I JUSTED watched this off Netflix DVD last night.

Here are my conclusions:

1) Apparently Brad Pitt won an Oscar for Supporting Actor for this. This was an EASY role for Pitt who has some range and I think he should not have gotten the award for this role simply because it was not a challenge for him and his abilities.

2) Plot? None.

3) WAY too long. They could have kept it to 120 minutes tops and still has the same results.

4) Tarantino is STILL an overrated director. He just is. Not way overrated, but just overrated.

5) I concluded that this movie should not have been in my DVD queue as the hype just did not come close to actual movie experience.

6) I predicted that the Audience Score at Rotten Tomatoes would be roughly 12 to 18% lower than the Critics Score as critics like packaging and not substance. I was right.

7) I give it a C+/B-. TOO LONG, NO PLOT, some sympathetic characters, etc.

In the end, I would put that silly Red vs. Blue "The Hunt" in my DVD queue instead of this as this movie simply was nowhere near the hype. I do think that both the main actors are very good actors but they could not rescue this movie.

Posted by: Sapwolf at April 05, 2020 02:06 PM (nuv3n)

508 Wow! I just saw Open a Time in Hollywood on Saturday night. I was completely unaware of the plot. When I saw the characters, Polanski and Tate and all the hippies, I felt sadness and dread. Boy was I surprised! My favorite, most exhilarating part was Brandy going for Tex and the other girl in the most satisfying way and the flamethrower treatment! I almost want to replay it. This is how that disgusting, evil event should have ended.

Posted by: MAUREEN C O'CONNOR at April 06, 2020 12:00 PM (77Yzi)

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