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Do it! Do it! Do it!
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 28, 2020 02:40 PM (SgjGX) 2
Second isn't so bad.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 02:42 PM (KXX3K) 3
2nd!
Posted by: Fox2! at March 28, 2020 02:42 PM (qyH+l) 4
Now what?
Posted by: klaftern at March 28, 2020 02:42 PM (RuIsu) 5
Weekend top ten!
Posted by: CA Token at March 28, 2020 02:43 PM (+8LG8) 6
Only thing I can understand about this freeing the prisoners thing is if it's some sort of subversive effort to de-legitimize the entire concept of prisons.
Otherwise it makes even less sense than any of the rest of this insanity. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:44 PM (hku12) 7
YES GEOTUS YES
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 02:44 PM (QvAgz) 8
But masks are harder to find than toilet paper.
Posted by: Dingbat at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (KylN9) 9
Was just about to link this news, LI has some good news on the drug treatments
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (ZCEU2) 10
The elite panic in NY, NY and CT must be at 11 right about now. Heh.
Posted by: Yip at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (8cUgT) 11
He doesn't seem nice!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (BiNEL) 12
Only thing I can understand about this freeing the prisoners thing is if it's some sort of subversive effort to de-legitimize the entire concept of prisons.
Otherwise it makes even less sense than any of the rest of this insanity. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:44 PM (hku12) Our attempts to be humane towards prisoners has had the paradoxical effect of making things worse. Society would be far better if every town and city had a whipping post erected outside the town hall and people were given lashings for minor offenses. Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (SgjGX) 13
Top eleven, yay!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 02:46 PM (BiNEL) 14
"NEWS: the president said he is considering an enforceable quarantine in the NY NJ CT ..."
He said it at the helicopter remarks. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 02:46 PM (obh/i) 15
Can we build a wall around that cesspool permanently?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 02:46 PM (Gl2vL) 16
When are they going to release Paul Manafort? Oh yeah. He's too dangerous. Political prisoners stay locked up in leftist states.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at March 28, 2020 02:46 PM (qMz/g) 17
Howdy everybody. Directv customers get ANOTHER freeview weekend, Starz this time, that's 3 weeks in a row. Filling up the DVR.
Posted by: zeera at March 28, 2020 02:47 PM (zUdXR) 18
When there is no Public Justice, Private Justice will become the norm. If the woman he murdered has any male relatives (or bold females) it's time for them to step up the plate and take care of this. It's also time for any officer who investigates to turn his head and say "I dint see nuttin', no evidence, no suspects."
that's the only answer left. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 02:47 PM (trdmm) 19
Our attempts to be humane towards prisoners has had the paradoxical effect of making things worse. Society would be far better if every town and city had a whipping post erected outside the town hall and people were given lashings for minor offenses.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile Interesting how the judicial system now seems devoted to putting the innocent at risk! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 02:47 PM (BiNEL) Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 28, 2020 02:47 PM (j9HX3) 21
So hospitalizations are down but panic is up. Lol.
Lolgf CNN Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 02:47 PM (Gl2vL) 22
Greetings from the front lines! Flipped from the ICU to the emergency department with 1 day off in between. Literally slept the whole thing. People get sick shot stabbed stuff gerbils in her but wrecked their cars have heart attacks have babies and so on. Life goes on. Administrators and politicians are the worst biggest most Goddamn incompetent fucktarted real-life rejects bags of used douche fluid on the planet or in the history of the species. Build a wall around Urban New York and New Jersey and throw these scumbags, along with their media sphincter suckers over it. Pray for our medical people. We are hurtin... Posted by: Ima Pseudonym at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (qul7b) 23
The President's speech in Norfolk sending off naval ship "Comfort" to NYC. It will take care of needs of people who don't have the coronavirus. It's a 30 minute clip. The first part explains that. At about 18:46 President Trump says "I'm proud to be your President":
https://tinyurl.com/v52sq8q Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (WI7YS) 24
The elite panic in NY, NY and CT must be at 11 right about now. Heh.
Posted by: Yip ---- Many have already bugged out. I know of a couple that flew out of NYC to TX. The woman's health is already compromised and I get it, sort of, but wow. Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (Y4EXg) 25
There's this general concept, which I think is going to gain more and more traction with the general public, of red pilled and blue pilled people.
I forget which pill is which. The gist of it, of course, is that some of us are living in the matrix, and some people have awakened (which is not the same as being woke). Society is turning on more and more to the notion that our reality is not what it seems, and there are so many aspects of what we do that seem to have been intentionally managed so as to put people into deeper and deeper sleep. Is it a good thing if people wake up? That's an open debate, but the world sure does look awfully different when you sorta start with the assumption that NOTHING we are told is the truth, and everything is masking something else. So yay, 2020. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (hku12) Posted by: getting the bsnnex back together barricaded at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (buVDh) 27
We in the Philly metro are waiting for WuFlu to jump the river. If a quarantine goes into effect, less likelihood of that happening. Bucks County, bordering Philly to the north, has evolved into a bedroom community for NNJ and NYC. This will help them as well.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (QvAgz) 28
Will the government send me a free mask in the mail?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (aKsyK) 29
Corgis called from garden thread.
Posted by: Fox2! at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (qyH+l) 30
Judge frees illegal alien alleged murderer over fears he might catch the Chinese Flu.
Oh course. How terrible would it be for an illegal criminal to get the flu. It's much safer to have him roaming the streets again Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (b/YIs) 31
I appreciate the county by county approach by POTUS. It's up to the county, city, and state officials to handle things. If things get out of hand, like with NYC with the explosion with failure from individuals through local and state officials, then POTUS has no choice but to step in and force a quarantine. Unfortunately it's like getting punished in team sports when certain individuals continue to fuck up so the entire team is punished to sort out the problem, and it works.
Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (lBCgE) 32
NEW: CDC guidance on masks expected to change in next 10 days. Americans will be advised to wear masks in everyday life. Current recommendation is for high-risk groups only.
I really can't see me doing that. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (KXX3K) 33
That WaPo tweet about homeschooling during this madness setting children back has got my blood boiling, so I'm off to clean something. Those creeps.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (/669Q) 34
Just a thought....my wife just pointed out, what with the national/international emergency and all, why are there paywalls on these media sites? We're all being asked to make sacrifices. But those clowns gotta get their filthy lucre?
Posted by: WTP at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (WQfDg) 35
Quarantining NY and NJ should be in the Constitution.
Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (UFgOG) 36
Dem Govs: "We must quarantine our States!"
Trump: "I agree. I decree that your States are to quarantine." Dem Govs: "Trump is closing down our State! Fascist!" In 3-2-1... Posted by: Dansgirls at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (V25ON) 37
NYC has the greatest doctors and hospitals in da world!!!! Unlike you tubes in Texas or Kansas.
- assholes who are fleeing to Texas and Kansas Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (Gl2vL) 38
I hope all the folks who thought that a version of socialism/communism would be just fine and dandy, are enjoying their free trial.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (TdMsT) 39
30 Judge frees illegal alien alleged murderer over fears he might catch the Chinese Flu.
Oh course. How terrible would it be for an illegal criminal to get the flu. It's much safer to have him roaming the streets again Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (b/YIs) Put him up in the judge's digs. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (YqDXo) 40
8 But masks are harder to find than toilet paper.
Posted by: Dingbat at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (KylN9) Then you have to stay home. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (KXX3K) 41
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DONT GIVE EM A HEAD START TO FLEE! LOCKDOWN NYC NOW!! Posted by: getting the bsnnex back together barricaded at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (buVDh) Yes, please. These locusts are heading to upstate NY (north of Albany) bringing the infection with them. They are also heading up into VT, NH, ME trying to escape.As a NH resident, I despise the MA locusts that move to NH to infect it and make it a liberal haven. Now they spread the 'Rona virus.I say close the borders. Block the roads. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (D3cJf) 42
Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (hku12)
I'm finding it harder and harder to trust my "betters"! Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (BiNEL) 43
I'm in N.J. I'm not elite and I'm not panicked and I would understand a quarantine for these areas, but even all of N.J. isn't as affected as some parts are.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (WI7YS) 44
So regarding the NY quarantine -
My wife's partner in her practice - his wife is an OBGYN. She is getting BOMBARDED by expectant mothers coming up to Maine from NYC because they don't want to be in the hot zone. On the flips side, my wife who is a sports med physician (but who is also primary care board certified and has ventilator certification) is about to be furloughed on May 2nd if this sh*t doesn't turn around. Every.Single.Vacation.Home owned by out of staters that usually are here from June through September - are here. Maine is full of people we'd normally (grudgingly) welcome (thank you tax dollas) but with nothing open, our economy cannot benefit. Posted by: Defenestratus at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (9V81o) 45
Couldn't the illegal alien murderer be executed before he got sick?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (Y1UmC) 46
yeah, sorry Mr. Two Scoops, but i'm not panicking and wearing a mask, just because the government tells me i have to.
i'm an American, and i'll live my life the way i think is best. and where the F are we all supposed to find them to wear anyway? is the mask fairy going to visit every household in the country one night? LOLGF. Posted by: redc1c4, ONT Rx Tech at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (vwf8z) 47
Can't find any information on that stupid judge.
Posted by: Vic at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (mpXpK) 48
Is it a good thing if people wake up? That's an open debate, but the world sure does look awfully different when you sorta start with the assumption that NOTHING we are told is the truth, and everything is masking something else. So yay, 2020. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (hku12) I have some close relations who have always been "jocks" for lack of a better word, and who have been full time into the Sports world. Work in it, eat it, live it sleep it, watch it, to the exclusion of almost everything else, sports has been their entire world. It never once occurred to them, not once in their lives, that the entire sports world could just be turned off, like flipping a light switch. Now they are desperately racing to try to understand a world they've never even tried to pay attention to before. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (trdmm) 49
WHAT THE F*CK! EAT FEWER BATS?!
[INDECIPHERABLE] I USED TO EAT BATS ALL THE F*CKING TIME! I THINK! WHAT! [INDECIPHERABLE] DO I HAVE THE F*CKING VIRUS?! AM I THE F*CKING VIRUS?! SHARON! Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (kZT36) 50
And no, I don't think people should go to other places from NYC, but I don't have a second home or the means to go even if I wanted to.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (WI7YS) 51
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It is nuts to me how long some commutes are on the coasts. I knew a guy who worked in the financial district in NYC and lived in PA. About a 90 mins commute each way via train and then a drive from the station to home. And I was like WTF? But then realized that is not uncommon. Still Obama e though as far as Im concerned. Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (Gl2vL) 52
These locusts are heading to upstate NY (north of Albany) bringing the infection with them. They are also heading up into VT, NH, ME trying to escape.As a NH resident, I despise the MA locusts that move to NH to infect it and make it a liberal haven. Now they spread the 'Rona virus.I say close the borders. Block the roads.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (D3cJf) Kind of a metaphor for what happened to California starting 50 years ago. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (YqDXo) 53
I don't think I can despise anyone more than Hillary.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (PUmDY) 54
Ima Pseudonym, stay safe out there.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (QvAgz) 55
Hoping that by Easter this junk is starting to go away. I keep reading that next week numbers will tell the tale. Fingers crossed
Posted by: Jmel at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (OeWgo) 56
Every.Single.Vacation.Home owned by out of staters that usually are here from June through September - are here. Maine is full of people we'd normally (grudgingly) welcome (thank you tax dollas) but with nothing open, our economy cannot benefit. Posted by: Defenestratus at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (9V81o) Well--I'm going to be in Maine the second two weeks in June, if I have to crawl there on my hands and knees. But I'm not from New York.... Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 02:54 PM (TdMsT) 57
Paywall sites I use to go to lots are getting less visits from me lately.
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 02:54 PM (ZCEU2) 58
Society would be far better if every town and city had a whipping post erected outside the town hall and people were given lashings for minor offenses.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile --- Please to forward newsletter details! Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 02:54 PM (Y4EXg) 59
Only thing I can understand about this freeing the prisoners thing is if it's some sort of subversive effort to de-legitimize the entire concept of prisons.
Otherwise it makes even less sense than any of the rest of this insanity. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:44 PM (hku12) Routine move by tyrants to take revenge on their own people over some imagined slight. Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 02:54 PM (1g7ch) 60
I'm down with wearing a mask. Anything to hide my face, really. The mustache and beard isn't enough.
Can I just put on a paper sack ? Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 02:54 PM (uOouc) 61
It never once occurred to them, not once in their lives, that the entire sports world could just be turned off, like flipping a light switch. Now they are desperately racing to try to understand a world they've never even tried to pay attention to before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (trdmm) This. Sports are a First World luxury. The virus is necessitating a lot of much-needed rethinking about what is valuable, and what is not. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 02:55 PM (YqDXo) 62
mine the bridges
Posted by: x at March 28, 2020 02:55 PM (nFwvY) 63
33 That WaPo tweet about homeschooling during this madness setting children back has got my blood boiling, so I'm off to clean something. Those creeps.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM (/669Q) Two school districts by me have changed to four-day weeks in the last 15 years. Test scores went up. We have been homeschooling for seven years. My daughter gets to go to private Catholic school next year in part because she scored above all the other students in English on their placement test, which scored her a scholarship. My eldest (autistic) daughter got a 29 on her first attempt at the ACT. The WaPo is shakin' in their boots at the thought that some folks might find out what my former teacher brother eventually understood: The less time your kid spends in a traditional classroom, the better they will do. Posted by: Catherine at March 28, 2020 02:55 PM (D22jJ) 64
It strikes me as profoundly stupid to announce that you are thinking about quarantining an area.
I'm imagining traffic jams now of people trying to get out before the quarantine hits. Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (s9Eo8) 65
No masks here. Can I cut eye holes in depends and wear em on my head?
Posted by: getting the banned back together typos n all at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (buVDh) 66
28 Will the government send me a free mask in the mail?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 02:49 PM (aKsyK) You can make your own masks almost as good as the N95s that will block out at least 90% of particles. Cut up old tee shirts to the that will cover your mouth and nose, take vacuum bags and cut them up to the same size, put the tee shirts on either side of the vacuum bag pieces, staple them together, use string or anything to tie it around your face. You have a reusable mask for when you go shopping or get in crowds. Just leave in the sun when you get home and spray with Lysol. Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (lBCgE) 67
>>>yeah, sorry Mr. Two Scoops, but i'm not panicking and wearing a mask, just because the government tells me i have to.
well you can say that but I don't think many of you understand the police power of the government in an emergency -- a power that existed before the Constitution as well as after it. I also don't think you understand that mask-wearing is an ALTERNATIVE to shutting everything down. South Korea stayed almost completely open-- they just wore masks when going back and forth to work. If that's too much of an infringement of your liberty, well, whatever. But I would note that the power to jail/quarantine people who refuse reasonable restrictions during an epidemic is older than the Magna Carta. Oh one more thing: It's easy to get masks. Have you even bothered LOOKING? Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (PbpT7) 68
The CDC guidance on donning PPE is just common sense. Plus it is a great help to those of us who want to eschew the maquillage.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (QvAgz) 69
45 Couldn't the illegal alien murderer be executed before he got sick?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (Y1UmC) Are we doing the precautionary principle, or are we just %^&*(ing around? Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (YqDXo) 70
Went over to the range in Alabama this AM, they were setting up cones and signs on I10 eastbound at the FL line. Came back about 4 hours later and got to go through a mandatory diversion to be asked "Where are you coming from?". It looks like folks from LA, etc are getting extra screening.
Posted by: Panhandler at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (S/rwf) 71
Well--I'm going to be in Maine the second two weeks in June, if I have to crawl there on my hands and knees.
But I'm not from New York.... Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 02:54 PM (TdMsT) Well, It'll be here. The world class restaurants however ... who knows if they'll survive until then? Posted by: Defenestratus at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (9V81o) 72
why are there paywalls on these media sites? We're all being asked to make sacrifices. But those clowns gotta get their filthy lucre?
Posted by: WTP at March 28, 2020 02:50 PM ---------------------- I've been to several paywall sites and they've had link to only their WuFlu coverage which is free. Most of it's hair-on-fire shit, but it's free. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (Dhht7) 73
I'm imagining traffic jams now of people trying to get out before the quarantine hits.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (s9Eo Its a trap. Time to blow the bridges. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 02:57 PM (uOouc) Posted by: Mark1971 at March 28, 2020 02:57 PM (xPl2J) 75
Its a trap. Time to blow the bridges.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 02:57 PM (uOouc) I lol'd Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 02:57 PM (s9Eo8) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 02:57 PM (aKsyK) 77
But masks are harder to find than toilet paper.
Posted by: Dingbat at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (KylN9) Then you have to stay home. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (KXX3K) I don't have any masks at home. So I need to go out to get some. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (hku12) 78
Well, It'll be here. The world class restaurants however ... who knows if they'll survive until then? Posted by: Defenestratus at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (9V81o) As long as Young's Lobster Pound in Belfast is open, I will survive. Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (TdMsT) 79
I think the new rules will include:
60+ remains on lockdown Red/yellow/green zones with different guidance Restrictions on transit between zones Mask requirements in public Blood testing will give those with antibodies an all clear. We are about to become a papers please society Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (ZfRYq) 80
X - blow them, they can be fixed later
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (ZCEU2) 81
20 why are we WARNING them?!?
ugh theyre all gonna try to escape now Posted by: BlackOrchid at March 28, 2020 02:47 PM (j9HX3) I think states will have legal authority to arrest and deport them back to NY, NJ, or CT. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (obh/i) 82
if anyone would like to NOT make a fool of himself when talking about what his imaginary "rights" are, try looking up "The police power" during fires and epidemics, and do please note that this power extends back literally millennia, and has been repeatedly affirmed by US court opinions.
Or you know, whatever, keep blathering about some ignorant conception about your right to be a disease vector. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (PbpT7) 83
Oh one more thing: It's easy to get masks. Have you even bothered LOOKING?
Posted by: ace We really wish people would stop copying our fashion ideas. --Antifa Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (T6t7i) 84
That judge is a fucking idiot.
Pure fucking stupid. Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (axyOa) Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (N9G0H) 86
It's a recommendation. Not a law.
Posted by: Less than a cent. at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (/LQkF) 87
Will a tight leather mask with metal studs work?
Posted by: Lebron Horowitz at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (UFgOG) 88
WHAT THE F*CK! EAT FEWER BATS?!
[INDECIPHERABLE] I USED TO EAT BATS ALL THE F*CKING TIME! I THINK! WHAT! [INDECIPHERABLE] DO I HAVE THE F*CKING VIRUS?! AM I THE F*CKING VIRUS?! SHARON! Posted by: Ozzy Osbourne at March 28, 2020 02:53 PM (kZT36 --- IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE IT'S A SOCK! Posted by: BEN ROETHLISBERGER at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (vwf8z) 89
Judge frees illegal alien alleged murderer over fears he might catch the Chinese Flu.
Liberal judge looking out for liberal constituents: criminals and illegal aliens. Intersectionality in this guy's case. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 02:59 PM (YqDXo) 90
I'm totally going with a paper sack over my head until further notice.
If it saves just one child ... Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (uOouc) 91
Why da fuq would he give a warning?
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (Gl2vL) 92
83 Oh one more thing: It's easy to get masks. Have you even bothered LOOKING?
Posted by: ace We really wish people would stop copying our fashion ideas. --Antifa Posted by: pep Amateurs! W've been doing it for 1400 years. Posted by: Muslims who veil their women at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (N9G0H) 93
Or you know, whatever, keep blathering about some ignorant conception about your right to be a disease vector.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (PbpT7) Leave AIDS activists out of this. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (YqDXo) 94
Hello horde! Report from the commissary: not allowing reusable bags anymore, still checking ID at the door but now the person checking stands behind a barrier six feet away. The stock looks much better, with the exception of toilet paper and flour, which was completely gone.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (6ofTb) 95
pssst: try ordering masks online.
Also, they're not talking about N95 masks, which are also now available (after a period of being very hard to find), but loop-over-ear masks like they wear in hospitals. Which are dirt cheap and widely available. I mean, I hate to propose obvious solutions to people who are obviously very well-informed aboujt whatever they're running their mouths off this second.... Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (PbpT7) 96
It is nuts to me how long some commutes are on the coasts. I knew a guy who worked in the financial district in NYC and lived in PA. About a 90 mins commute each way via train and then a drive from the station to home.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP --- I sold the farmhouse and 20 acres in Berks Cty, PA to a guy that works in NYC. Busses in from Kutztown every day - 2 hr bus ride - one way. Well, used to be. Posted by: Tonypete at March 28, 2020 03:00 PM (Y4EXg) 97
When there is no Public Justice, Private Justice will become the norm.
If the woman he murdered has any male relatives (or bold females) it's time for them to step up the plate and take care of this. It's also time for any officer who investigates to turn his head and say "I dint see nuttin', no evidence, no suspects." that's the only answer left. --- Pretty much this. In Shitcago, the only crime the police care about is jogging along the lakeshore. Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (kOpft) 98
I've asked it before and I'll ask it again. Suppose the infection rate plummets. What happens to the $2 trillion stimulus? Can we just cancel or reduce it drastically? It isn't like we aren't already in debt up to our eyeballs.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (T6t7i) 99
whatever, a bunch of people who routinely talk up prepping are telling me they don't know how to get hold of a $1 mask.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (PbpT7) 100
Listen, I was a principal singer in the 'It's just a flu!' chorus, then my rheumatologist friemd phoned me and put me some knowledge about this insidious disease. I've been masked up in public since then.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (QvAgz) 101
DJT should have blown the bridges and flooded the tunnels 10 days ago, when I said the new yorkers were already crowding up the jersey shore.
Posted by: BluesFish at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (jadK/) 102
Oh in case you think my papers please remark is a criticism it isn't.
I think a colander mask with charcoal lining will be just what the dr ordered Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (ZfRYq) 103
Will the media be required to wear facemasks?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (Y1UmC) 104
So yay, 2020.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (hku12) Red pill. Blue pill is where you decide to turn your back and go back to sleep If Neo took the blue pill https://youtu.be/aau8qa3xgFs Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (6rS3m) 105
We don't need Kurt Russell (Snake Plissken), we need Lee Van Cleef (whatever his character name is).
Posted by: Gref at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (AMIL/) 106
The boss sounds cranky.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (KXX3K) 107
Oregon which has closed all schools due to the Flu Manchu also announced that online only charter schools must also close because...reasons. Mostly, because it's not fair that people who want a quality education for their kids are still getting one.
Also, the state has zero ability to go to online learning. Yeah. They are far more worried about people finding out the difference between state mandated indoctrination vs actual education. Why yes, teachers unions are very strong. Why do you ask? Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (TYQsd) 108
Fifty bucks syas this article will appear sometime in the next week in the mainstream press:
The sexual allure of masks: Now I finally understand why men find fundamentalist Muslim women so exotic and appealing Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (N9G0H) 109
But I would note that the power to jail/quarantine people who refuse reasonable restrictions during an epidemic is older than the Magna Carta.
Oh one more thing: It's easy to get masks. Have you even bothered LOOKING? Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (PbpT7) In India they make the people who break their rules during this pandemic do body weight squats in public. I got a laugh seeing pictures of this. Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (lBCgE) 110
Will the media be required to wear facemasks? Posted by: Northernlurker at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (Y1UmC) ----- Yes. Iron ones. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (II2Y0) 111
But masks are harder to find than toilet paper.
Posted by: Dingbat at March 28, 2020 02:45 PM (KylN9) Then you have to stay home. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 02:51 PM (KXX3K) I don't have any masks at home. So I need to go out to get some. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (hku12) As I have been trying to do some painting, I've been looking for masks for over a month. Nothing around here. Do over 60, no mask, I get to starve I guess. Fuck that bullshit. The more restrictions, the faster the public, which is actually quite tolerant, will become angry. Like I am. Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (axyOa) 112
sorry I shouldn't have flown off the handle and bitch-mouthed people. I didn't write any context in the post. I cannot yell at people because *I* failed to do my job.
But the point of masks is to REOPEN the country. If you're against masks, you're in favor of a permanent shut-down. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (PbpT7) 113
I mentioned this yesterday, but my sister is mad and me and my mom because we laughed when she said the media was essential. No regrets.
Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (rWZ8Y) 114
I've asked it before and I'll ask it again. Suppose the infection rate plummets. What happens to the $2 trillion stimulus? Can we just cancel or reduce it drastically? It isn't like we aren't already in debt up to our eyeballs.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (T6t7i) no. this is not about "what will happen if", this is about what already happened and how to get us back economically. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (zr5Kq) 115
whatever, a bunch of people who routinely talk up prepping are telling me they don't know how to get hold of a $1 mask.
----- If you're a real handy prepper you can make a mask from a merv13 furnace filter. Posted by: BluesFish at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (jadK/) 116
The sexual allure of masks: Now I finally understand why men find fundamentalist Muslim women so exotic and appealing
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (N9G0H) Now THERE'S the epitome of "begging the question." Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (YqDXo) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (aKsyK) Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (PbpT7) 119
NEW: CDC guidance on masks expected to change in next 10 days. Americans
will be advised to wear masks in everyday life. Current recommendation is for high-risk groups only. --- *makes jerking off motion* Posted by: Methos at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (kOpft) 120
Every day will be Halloween or Mardi Gras!
Posted by: Dempsy at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (PG1FL) 121
My eldest (autistic) daughter got a 29 on her first attempt at the ACT. The WaPo is shakin' in their boots at the thought that some folks might find out what my former teacher brother eventually understood: The less time your kid spends in a traditional classroom, the better they will do.
Posted by: Catherine at March 28, 2020 02:55 PM (D22jJ) 29 on ACT is pretty damn good. She should just take the score and move on. Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (1g7ch) 122
107
Oregon which has closed all schools due to the Flu Manchu also announced that online only charter schools must also close because...reasons. It's a mystery. Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (T6t7i) 123
Bret Weinstein, the guy that was fired from Green College or whatever, did a YT vid with his wife about some of the Chink-Flu and masks, and he described the efficacy of a regular, cloth bandana to be especially excellent at trapping the Chink bug in the cloth. Easy to wash and reuse.
Posted by: Yip at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (8cUgT) 124
64 It strikes me as profoundly stupid to announce that you are thinking about quarantining an area.
I'm imagining traffic jams now of people trying to get out before the quarantine hits. Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (s9Eo Leaving is against requests by all authorities. We are staying home, working from home, or not working; kids not in school. But these *special* people take it upon themselves to carry their virus to other parts of the country. They deserve more punitive action than they will receive. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (obh/i) 125
Face colanders. The answer is so obvious.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:05 PM (uOouc) 126
Mad AT. Dammit autocorrect.
I personally hope we don't have to wear masks because I rely on lip reading, but work with masks is better than telework without. Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 28, 2020 03:05 PM (rWZ8Y) 127
71 new real estate listings in my area today alone. Usually numbers like that are for a week. Lots of people panic selling, or trying to anyway, hoping to get ahead of the crash. This is a touristy area with a lot of Airbnb peeps who bought 2,3,5 properties all hoping to be the next real estate mogul. Now they are all empty but the mortgage payments are still due.
And I have no sympathy for them since it just pushed up prices for everyone else and made it really hard for first time buyers and especially young renters to afford anything nice. Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 03:05 PM (Gl2vL) 128
99 - my bf has some stashed away, he's trying to find the hoard. He did locate an N95 for himself and gave me one of the other types. SEIU has to give up their stash of 39 million, hopefully FEMA can distribute them.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:05 PM (QvAgz) 129
112 sorry I shouldn't have flown off the handle and bitch-mouthed people. I didn't write any context in the post. I cannot yell at people because *I* failed to do my job.
But the point of masks is to REOPEN the country. If you're against masks, you're in favor of a permanent shut-down. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (PbpT7) Maybe add that to the post? Thanks, Ace! Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:05 PM (KXX3K) 130
Oh one more thing: It's easy to get masks. Have you even bothered LOOKING? Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (PbpT7)
Walmart, riteaid, etc sold out. Been using kerchief like a great northfield minnesota raider. Posted by: getting the baned back together with limited mobility at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (buVDh) 131
NEW: CDC guidance on masks expected to change in next 10 days. Americans will be advised to wear masks in everyday life. Current recommendation is for high-risk groups only. Will goalie or catcher's masks work? Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (b/YIs) 132
I'm in NJ. Go ahead an build a wall around us please
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (KNsKs) 133
masks are for people in high risk groups. there has always been problem with wearing masks. there is a protocol of putting on and taking off. efficacy is questionable.
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (zr5Kq) 134
It strikes me as profoundly stupid to announce that you are thinking about quarantining an area.
I'm imagining traffic jams now of people trying to get out before the quarantine hits. Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (s9Eo Crazy like a fox. In the mass exodus a few will run out of gas and block the flow. Kind of like a giant wad of paper and grease in a pipe. Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (1g7ch) 135
Do those leather masks with ball gag protect against coronavirus? Asking for a friend.
Posted by: Mark1971 at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (xPl2J) 136
>>>Maybe add that to the post? Thanks, Ace!
I just did! Sorry I flew off the handle. I should have done my job better. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (PbpT7) Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:06 PM (ZfRYq) 138
29 on ACT is pretty damn good. She should just take the score and move on.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (1g7ch) Yeah, I'm waffling on whether to have her take it again. If she does get a 32 (supposedly scores improve an average of 3 point due to familiarity), it opens up a treasure trove of scholarships. We'll have to decide that when they think they can have tests again. Posted by: Catherine at March 28, 2020 03:07 PM (D22jJ) 139
Local credit union has a sign on the door forbidding sunglasses, hoodies and masks. The lobby is closed for the duration. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:07 PM (aKsyK) 140
Chtulhu likes colander face masks
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:07 PM (PUmDY) 141
>>>133 masks are for people in high risk groups. there has always been problem with wearing masks. there is a protocol of putting on and taking off. efficacy is questionable.
no, you are talking about masks intended to protect teh wearer from disease. South Koreans wear masks to protect others from their sneezes and coughs. It's worked in South Korea. I don't know what the hell else to say about this. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:07 PM (PbpT7) 142
I got my respirator in yesterday with 4 cartridges made in America in yesterday, and it wasn't suppose to arrive until May 1st. I have 6 n95 masks that are arriving this week.
There are many sites selling American made surgical masks by a pack of 50 for about a buck a piece. Hospitals in my area are paying 75 cents for these. Eye wear costs 10 bucks. Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (lBCgE) 143
I'm liking the bandana thing. Add a cowboy hat and go all Jesse James.
Or, face colander and chaps. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (uOouc) 144
Oh one more thing: It's easy to get masks. Have you even bothered LOOKING? Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM (PbpT7) I've said this before and I'll say it again - I want an Immortan Joe Mask!!! and I sense a real opportunity for someone to start making and selling them. (there's one on etsy that's waaaay too expensive, we need to come in at about the $10 - $15 point) Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (trdmm) 145
The sexual allure of masks: Now I finally understand why men find fundamentalist Muslim women so exotic and appealing
Posted by: zombie There actually is a bit of truth to this. See the pictures of the PM of Slovakia, in her matching dress and mask. It looks great, even Chess Thread worthy, but when you see her without a mask, you realize she's not as pretty as you'd imagined, although she's still attractive. Imagination is a powerful aphrodisiac. https://tinyurl.com/ukndxgo Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (T6t7i) 146
Anyone who isn't convinced this beerbug can't eff you up, refer to weirdflunky's post on the EMT.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (QvAgz) 147
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Haha. Good one. When is the last time the govt gave away money and then said oh wait on second thought we need it back? My best case scenario it that is stays at $2T. Cuz you know as soon as the ink is dry on this one they will start talking about the next one. Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (Gl2vL) 148
ace: much love and no disrespect, but i know as much about disease transmission, infection control, aseptic technique,etc, as these "experts", as does Resident 3vil, and neither one of us sees any reason to panic.
and we aren't going to, just because some politician says we should. the sheep can blindly obey, if they want. and most of them, from current observation, will not wear masks properly anyway, so they will do no good. i'm allergic to kabuki theater, in all forms, but especially so when it comes to healthcare issues. hand sanitizer is another bad joke: if your hands do not stay wet for at least 20-30 seconds, you ain't sanitizing anything, just drying out your skin. let's all agree to stop with the stupid, pointless shit, and get on with our lives like Americans are supposed to. Posted by: redc1c4 at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (vwf8z) 149
Nothing will give you an understanding of why governments are bad better than having that government boot crushed up your ass.
Quarantine now, Quarantine tomorrow, Quarantine forever. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2020 03:08 PM (Z+IKu) 150
South Korea is the gold standard for handling this pandemic.
Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (lBCgE) 151
YES!
Posted by: Willie Horton at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (Ndje9) 152
It is impossible to watch this and stay cranky.
Crank it up the sound level is kind of low. https://tinyurl.com/l7d4lr5 Posted by: f'd at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (Tnijr) 153
The sexual allure of masks: Now I finally understand why men find fundamentalist Muslim women so exotic and appealing
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (N9G0H) Not gonna lie, a headscarf which emphasizes the eyes of a Persian woman is kinda hot. Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (SgjGX) 154
>>>137 ace where are you seeing cheap and plentiful masks?
well I just got some from... well, china. also, obviously, US production would ramp up dramatically if they decide on this guidance. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (PbpT7) 155
New Ipsos/Reuters poll:
Which post-apocalyptic scenario do you think will come true first? Mad Max - 21% Night of the Living Dead - 13% Escape from New York - 36% Zardoz - 9% The Time Machine - 4% Westworld - 17% Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (N9G0H) 156
Ace is right about the state's retaining what is known as the general police power. The bill of rights was to limit the federal government, in line with what most state constitutions, at the time, guaranteed. The 10th specifically reserved the state's police power.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (87EdW) 157
I have ear loop masks.Considered wearing it but almost no one has been on my once a week shopping trips.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:10 PM (KNsKs) 158
In my line of work I have to wear a mask. It makes it more difficult for the bank tellers to ID me to the cops Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:10 PM (b/YIs) 159
whatever, a bunch of people who routinely talk up prepping are telling me they don't know how to get hold of a $1 mask.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:01 PM (PbpT7) I was told, by an employer, that we're considering the home made quilted masks... for healthcare workers. You know, the kind they keep saying won't stop the virus from spreading. But hospitals and schools and all sorts of other businesses are going to MANDATE their employees come to work, wearing these useless devices. Why? Not to stop the spread of disease. So yeah, thanks for the history lesson. Tyrants have been using tyranny since the dawn of time. And Washington sent troops to kill Americans who balked at paying taxes to cover the revolutionary war expenses. Just because we can, doesn't mean we should. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 03:10 PM (hku12) Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:10 PM (PbpT7) 161
I do hate it when people just cough out into the air, whether it's near your face or not. I've thought of it as rude. I guess it could be deadly.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:10 PM (KXX3K) 162
I guess I will wait and see what happens.
What I posted I heard from a very competent doctor when I asked about masks. I don't know about Dr.John McCormack or what his sources are. Is he legit ? Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:10 PM (zr5Kq) 163
no. this is not about "what will happen if", this is about what already happened and how to get us back economically.
Posted by: runner But if everyone's already going back to work, aren't we already getting back economically? Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (T6t7i) 164
Can burkas be used as acceptable precautions?
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (ZCEU2) 165
N95 masks?
Crap, all I have are these stupid pink P100 masks... Wish I still had a bunny suit laying around. It's be kind of fun to go searching for TP in that getup. Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (1g7ch) 166
I have a couple of friends that are making masks. Maybe I should put an order in?
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (dUJdY) 167
Masks are not necessarily to keep you from getting the virus though a surgical mask is better than nothing on that front.
It is really to keep you from spreading it. Cough or sneeze into mask is better than trying to catch it into your elbow. I think masks are a big part of the reason Asian countries slowed the spread. The learned the lesson of SARS and everyone masks up. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (ZfRYq) 168
It is pretty cool how she doesn't even know is a late line in Just My Imagination.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (PUmDY) 169
>>>
But hospitals and schools and all sorts of other businesses are going to MANDATE their employees come to work, wearing these useless devices. Why? Not to stop the spread of disease. So yeah, thanks for the history lesson. Tyrants have been using tyranny since the dawn of time. And Washington sent troops to kill Americans who balked at paying taxes to cover the revolutionary war expenses. ... You're right, the jury's still out on the germ theory of disease this is all a scam to take away your precious right to not wear a mask on public transportation well-spotted Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (PbpT7) 170
Hillary let her mask slip with that tweet.
Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 03:12 PM (lBCgE) 171
Posted by: Diogenes at March 28, 2020 03:03 PM (axyOa)
If you are painting check into P95 masks. They're N65 + oil. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 03:12 PM (obh/i) 172
116 The sexual allure of masks: Now I finally understand why men find fundamentalist Muslim women so exotic and appealing
Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:02 PM (N9G0H) Now THERE'S the epitome of "begging the question." Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:04 PM (YqDXo) Admittedly there's always been a large group that falls under the "She look better wit' a bag ovah her haid" category. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:12 PM (trdmm) 173
Hey friendly here in the proposed quarantine shitzone NYC area.
WTF over? Some details would be nice. Like anything? Posted by: Evil Libertarian behind enemy lines at March 28, 2020 03:12 PM (f7BRq) 174
Hillary let her mask slip with that tweet.
Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 03:12 PM (lBCgE) Is it possible Hillary has a black and bitter soul? Posted by: Northernlurker at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (Y1UmC) 175
Since time immemorial, the Frankfurt School has schemed about forcing Americans to wear surgical masks in public for 8-12 weeks.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (PbpT7) 176
Cuz you know as soon as the ink is dry on this one they will start talking about the next one.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member They already are. It's called Phase 4. Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (T6t7i) 177
Hmm, I have bandanas in all colors from my HD MC days. I can match any outfit.
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (vF+fs) 178
But if everyone's already going back to work, aren't we already getting back economically?
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (T6t7i) not if the business is shut down. as many did. not if the business barely survived and is out of money and needs loans to hire back and replenish stock. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (zr5Kq) 179
WTAF? I forget what my SAT score, but I remember it was considered quite high at the time, under the old system of scoring. I DO remember I got a 34 on ACT. I got 5s on all three of my AP exams. I had a 3.8 GPA (again, back when 4.0 was the max, unlike now when you get a 5.8 or some shit, as long as you do AP and stuff). I wasn't eligible for a single damn scholarship at my University. All they offered me was credit for the AP exams. Not a penny more than that. How do people get these "academic scholarships," anyway? I was never clear on that point. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (II2Y0) 180
Kids will have fun coming up with ways to personalize their masks, like they do with leg and arm casts.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:14 PM (KXX3K) 181
If you're a real handy prepper you can make a mask from a merv13 furnace filter.
Posted by: BluesFish ------ Or, just take up residence in the plenum. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 03:14 PM (xSo9G) 182
Which post-apocalyptic scenario do you think will come true first?
Mad Max - 21% Night of the Living Dead - 13% Escape from New York - 36% Zardoz - 9% The Time Machine - 4% Westworld - 17% Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (N9G0H) Oh let it be Zardoz! Please, let it be Zardoz!!! Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:14 PM (trdmm) Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:14 PM (b/YIs) 184
It is kind if sad that when anything happens all our fellow morons just right off the northeast.Yeah we are run by lefties but there plenty of conservatives here.All you red state guys have your leftie urban shitholes too you know and even there there are conservatives.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:15 PM (KNsKs) 185
Zod should be here.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:15 PM (KXX3K) 186
N95 not necessary for general public. Really only for healthcare workers.
Everyone who is not immune should wear surgical type masks in public. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:15 PM (ZfRYq) 187
Or you know, whatever, keep blathering about some ignorant conception about your right to be a disease vector.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 02:58 PM (PbpT7) I won't go there Ace, but I have trouble surrendering my rights to something that is less lethal than a bad flu year. Unlike the flu, you never come back from losing your rights. Right now we are LARPing Venezuela, in a couple of years we could be Cuba. The emergencies will never end and the extraordinary power of the state will be necessary to fight them. The need to surrender our rights will become essential to fight the next emergency, and the next one after that. Then forever. Forever war is so yesterday. Now it is forever health emergency. for the children, minorities, and the most vulnerable among us, of course. Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2020 03:15 PM (6rS3m) 188
I'll pay extra for a Dickies or Carhart mask. And even more if it comes in camo.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:15 PM (uOouc) 189
FYI, for many years Mark Dwyer was the Chief Assistant DA for the late Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morganthau.
He became a Judge after Morganthau retired in 2009. Posted by: mercenary13 at March 28, 2020 03:15 PM (r1mci) 190
Not gonna lie, a headscarf which emphasizes the eyes of a Persian woman is kinda hot.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (SgjGX) When it is all they wear. That was the fatwa - wear a scarf or be labeled a whore. Never said anything else required. As long as no visible hair longer than a grain of rice. Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (1g7ch) 191
In the era of TB all infected people were expected (the law) to wear masks in public.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (obh/i) 192
Oh let it be Zardoz! Please, let it be Zardoz!!!
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:14 PM (trdmm) Do we got to wear the red diaper? Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (b/YIs) 193
Wrote earlier this week hopefully personal hygiene will improve with the public service announments going on.
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (ZCEU2) 194
How do people get these "academic scholarships," anyway? I was never clear on that point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice --------- Social credits and minority status count bigly. 'Community activist' made me a slam-dunk for Harvard. Posted by: Barky Obama at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (xSo9G) 195
"and most of them, from current observation, will not wear masks properly anyway, so they will do no good."
there can be more instruction, but even imperfectly worn, they do SOME good. Same with hand sanitizers ... depends on the strength ... or soap and water, 20 seconds and brush under fingernails is better, but 10 seconds may be enough 95% of the time. It won't be perfect sterile technique ... it will be pretty clean technique. I still haven't found more solid "science" on this, but I'm pretty sure "dosage" of initial inoculum makes a big difference. Perfection can be the enemy of the good enough. Masks worked in S Korea ... they aren't "that much smarter" than the general US, are they? Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (Cus5s) 196
>>>191 In the era of TB all infected people were expected (the law) to wear masks in public.
that was just a Socialist Plot Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (PbpT7) 197
not if the business is shut down. as many did. not
if the business barely survived and is out of money and needs loans to hire back and replenish stock. Posted by: runner I agree that such loans are reasonable. How much of the $2T will that be long term, after they're paid back? IOW, is the $2T a sunk cost, or can we expect much if not most of it back? Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (T6t7i) 198
And than the mental patient has to chime in to really sweeten the thread.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (KNsKs) 199
How do people get these "academic scholarships," anyway? I was never clear on that point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (II2Y0) I've heard it helps if you have parents who can make an "academic contribution" to the school admissions officer. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (trdmm) 200
Zardoz - 9%
Vote zardoz - guns from the giant flying head! A mauser "zig-zag" automatic revolver! Posted by: getting the bsnned back together team obsolete at March 28, 2020 03:17 PM (buVDh) 201
Just leave the mask in the sun when you get home and spray with Lysol.
Posted by: it begins... at March 28, 2020 02:56 PM My boyfriend kept the mask on, poured a gallon of Lysol onto it while wearing it, choked, and died. I'm going to sue you with the money I will get from his double indemnity life insurance policy that he didn't know about. Posted by: Joe's girlfriend at March 28, 2020 03:18 PM (r6GXX) 202
Wrote earlier this week hopefully personal hygiene will improve with the public service announments going on.
Posted by: Skip -------- I expect that shopping cart handles have transitioned from 'Nastiest' to 'Biologically barren'. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 03:18 PM (xSo9G) 203
Depends on the school, I guess, YD. I had 1580 on the SAT, an IB diploma, was a National Merit Scholar, etc., and my university offered me enough scholarships that, combined with working, I was able to graduate with no loans, a new car (so it was a Honda Civic. It was new), and $10k in the bank.
But then, I couldn't have gone to school otherwise. My parents couldn't afford to help me. So a university that offered no scholarships wasn't an option. Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 28, 2020 03:18 PM (rWZ8Y) 204
198 And than the mental patient has to chime in to really sweeten the thread.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (KNsKs) oh come on Zardoz isn't that bad! Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:18 PM (trdmm) 205
Just leave the mask in the sun when you get home and spray with Lysol.
Posted by: it begins... ------------ Lysol? Bwahahahahaha. Long gone. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 03:19 PM (xSo9G) Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:19 PM (KXX3K) Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 03:19 PM (TdMsT) 208
How do people get these "academic scholarships," anyway? I was never clear on that point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:13 PM (II2Y0) A 28 or better at most places these days gets you an automatic half-tuition scholarship. 32 is more, but I don't know how much more. That's just from her recruiting emails that we've gotten from the universities that got her scores. Back in the previous century, I paid for all of my education in college, and 95% of it was cash. No scholarships since my grades were terrible in high school, although my SAT score was nothing to sneeze at. But I could get a year of college for about $2k at a major university. That's basically a class now. I think the scholarships for those that can tie their shoes without help have increased as the tuition has. Like Insty says, if you pay the sticker price, you're the chump. Posted by: Catherine at March 28, 2020 03:19 PM (D22jJ) 209
And than the mental patient has to chime in to really sweeten the thread.
Posted by: steevy -- rainmandodo is here? Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 03:19 PM (xSo9G) 210
Only thing I can understand about this freeing the
prisoners thing is if it's some sort of subversive effort to de-legitimize the entire concept of prisons. Otherwise it makes even less sense than any of the rest of this insanity. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:44 PM (hku12) Just an excuse for what liberals want to do but are afraid to during normal times. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (nAiE/) 211
>>>Only to find out the won't arrive until mid May.
try ebay also, if they're going to issue a guidance, they're also going to use the Defense Production Act to order a major increase in production. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (PbpT7) 212
Well we are back from our walk/recon mission and I didn't see one jack booted thug enforcing any sort of ban. Plenty of out of state plates though.
Typical RI efficiency in action. Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (ZLI7S) 213
If it takes wearing a mask to get the country running again then let's do it. Might be tough to do that in a restaurant or bar though Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (b/YIs) 214
>>>If it takes wearing a mask to get the country running again then let's do it. Might be tough to do that in a restaurant or bar though
good point. I guess they'll be among the last to re-open. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:22 PM (PbpT7) 215
You're right, the jury's still out on the germ theory of disease
this is all a scam to take away your precious right to not wear a mask on public transportation well-spotted Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:11 PM (PbpT7) I specifically was talking about home made quilted masks. Did you intentionally clip that part off? You seem to have a point you want to make though, so don't let me stop you. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 03:22 PM (hku12) 216
A 28 or better at most places these days gets you an automatic
half-tuition scholarship. 32 is more, but I don't know how much more. That's just from her recruiting emails that we've gotten from the universities that got her scores. That was not my experience. Since most places look at your family income, and mine was reasonably high, it was very difficult to get scholarships, despite my kids being academically stellar. Granted, they went to good schools, where they don't have to try as hard to attract talent. Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:22 PM (T6t7i) 217
If it takes wearing a mask to get the country running again then let's do it. Might be tough to do that in a restaurant or bar though
Posted by: TheQuietMan --------- Poke a straw through the mask. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 03:22 PM (xSo9G) 218
agree that such loans are reasonable. How much of the $2T will that be long term, after they're paid back? IOW, is the $2T a sunk cost, or can we expect much if not most of it back?
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (T6t7i) Depend on GDP growth. They probably expect to recoup those 2T within several years. Maybe 3. Just guessing. Somewhere between 2-3/% per year growth. Or my math is wrong. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:23 PM (zr5Kq) 219
217 Sorry straws are banned
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:23 PM (KNsKs) 220
My friend got back with me. She's giving away the masks she's making.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 28, 2020 03:23 PM (dUJdY) 221
I get the sense some people are a bit tired of being cooped up.
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:23 PM (T6t7i) 222
Which post-apocalyptic scenario do you think will come true first?
Mad Max - 21% Night of the Living Dead - 13% Escape from New York - 36% Zardoz - 9% The Time Machine - 4% Westworld - 17% Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:09 PM (N9G0H) Oh let it be Zardoz! Please, let it be Zardoz!!! Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:14 PM (trdmm) This feels weirdly like "The Stand" to me. I would not be at all surprised to learn that Wuhan flu was a germ engineered in some Chinese biolab. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 28, 2020 03:24 PM (nAiE/) 223
>>>I specifically was talking about home made quilted masks. Did you intentionally clip that part off?
i assumed the stupid "but my employer is making us wear dumb things" crap was intended to undermine masks GENERALLY, not just your stupid quilted masks thing. Was that NOT what you intended? THEN WHY BRING IT UP? This is fucking bullshit -- you bring up a STUPID micro-objection intended to apply globally to any guidance about masks, and then you crabwalk back and whine, "But I was only talking about QUILTED masks." Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:24 PM (PbpT7) 224
Canada has no equivalent to the SAT or ACT, so I got into university on my high school grades alone.
Posted by: Vendette at March 28, 2020 03:24 PM (nRNOc) 225
224 Grades are racist
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:24 PM (KNsKs) 226
213 Might be tough to do that in a restaurant or bar though
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (b/YIs) Some of the countries where they wear masks all the time will have figured out this sort of thing. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (KXX3K) 227
Typical RI efficiency in action.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (ZLI7S) Damn. Too bad. I was hoping to hear about cattle cars, crying women, the whole nine yards. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (uOouc) 228
My sister got all sorts of scholarships and she was a so so student with OK but not great SAT scores. It was $250 here $500 there another $375 here. But she got a lot of them and it added up. These were private scholarships that were kind of obscure with not a lot of applicants so pretty easy to get.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (Gl2vL) 229
I always assumed that the masks don't help crowd were lying. Cancer patients wear masks and take antivirals because it helps.
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (ONvIw) 230
Bar who comes up with a mask with a nipple hose and a socket in the cocktail glass (like our beloved M17 mask) will make a mint
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (ZfRYq) 231
Depend on GDP growth. They probably expect to
recoup those 2T within several years. Maybe 3. Just guessing. Somewhere between 2-3/% per year growth. Or my math is wrong. Posted by: runner I have seen NO estimates of the eventual cost, other than the $2T figure. If they expect this to be a loan, and repaid, it would behoove them to make that point. Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (T6t7i) 232
But so are standardized tests.We need freestyle rap competitions to get into college.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (KNsKs) 233
Might be tough to do that in a restaurant or bar though
Big linen napkin over head ala eating orolatans? Posted by: getting the gourmet banned back together en fuego at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (buVDh) 234
31. I was telling the Fresh Market manager this a.m. about Trump's targeted county plan. He said, 'But what about people coming in from other places?' Me: it's up to local law enforcement to stop them, like they're doing in RI'. The guy shot me a look like he wanted to kill me. He thought he'd identified the flaw in Trump's most excellent plan.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (QvAgz) 235
Maybe we all get to go out wearing MOPP 4 soon.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (1g7ch) 236
the main spread of the virus is still on the small droplets (not airborne for several minutes size) that can be caught with a cloth mask. The virus doesn't travel on its own ... no wings or legs. ... As the vapor evaporates in the mask, perhaps some "freed from the droplet" virus could be pulled through by breathing, idk.
But for going in a store for ten minutes, any mask would help. But within two weeks, the real N-95 should be back on the shelves, or via Amazon. Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (Cus5s) 237
This feels weirdly like "The Stand" to me. I would not be at all surprised to learn that Wuhan flu was a germ engineered in some Chinese biolab.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 28, 2020 03:24 PM (nAiE/) maybe it'll be like "Omega Man", and then those of us who survive can load up on automatic weapons and spend our nights shooting crazed zombie-hippies. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (trdmm) 238
try ebay also, if they're going to issue a guidance, they're also going to use the Defense Production Act to order a major increase in production. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (PbpT7) I'll try eBay. Posted by: Ladyl at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (TdMsT) 239
i think people have mentioned that restaurants serving at half (or less) capacity, with say one unoccupied table between all guests, are a possibility for restaurants.
Though you sill have to worry about your server sneezing on your food. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (PbpT7) 240
Canada has no equivalent to the SAT or ACT, so I got into university on my high school grades alone.
Posted by: Vendette at March 28, 2020 03:24 PM (nRNOc) Canada has open book Bar exam. Or so I've heard. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (zr5Kq) 241
>>Damn. Too bad.
>>I was hoping to hear about cattle cars, crying women, the whole nine yards. You and me both. It is pretty surprising how many out of state plates are in town. We are practically in mid-season form. Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (ZLI7S) 242
197 How much of the $2T will that be long term, after they're paid back? IOW, is the $2T a sunk cost, or can we expect much if not most of it back?
Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (T6t7i) PDT mentioned, at the ship, that the $2T is going to be, in the end, more in the vicinity of $6T. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (KXX3K) 243
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WTAF? I forget what my SAT score, but I remember it was considered quite high at the time, under the old system of scoring. I DO remember I got a 34 on ACT. I got 5s on all three of my AP exams. I had a 3.8 GPA (again, back when 4.0 was the max, unlike now when you get a 5.8 or some shit, as long as you do AP and stuff). I wasn't eligible for a single damn scholarship at my University. All they offered me was credit for the AP exams. Not a penny more than that. How do people get these "academic scholarships," anyway? I was never clear on that point. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice Don't even talk to me about scholarships. I got absolutely zero scholarships or financial aid of any kind in college, despite having SAT scores through the roof and being absolutely penniless without a dime of support from parents. Other 18-year-olds I knew from school all were bragging about all the scholarships and financial aid they had landed, despite them all being totally spoiled rich kids with every aspect of their lives being paid for by mom and dad, including all college expenses -- and they all had worse SAT scores than me too. I asked them how they had managed to get all those payouts, and in reply they were more confused than I was, asking back: How could you NOT get them? Well, I said, I filled out the forms.... They laughed. Wait -- YOU filled them out? Uh, yeah -- I filled them out. Is there some other way to do it? More laughter. Of course, you idiot -- if you yourself fill them out, you'll never get any money. You let the pros fill them out. The pros? Yeah, the professional "mentors" and "counselors" your parents hire who know all the tricks and gimmicks to getting maximum financial aid and scholarships. Me: Well, what does it matter who fills out the form -- the info you fill in is always gonna be the same. Doubling over in laughter now: You fool! No one tells the truth on the forms! You need the pros to tell you exactly what numbers and lies to put on them! You told the TRUTH??? Hahahahaha!" It was at that moment that I began hating all humanity and have never stopped since. Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:27 PM (N9G0H) 244
239 Heck even when you order in that can happen.Life has some risks no matter what we do.
Posted by: steevy at March 28, 2020 03:27 PM (KNsKs) 245
In 1918 there was no stimulus. And the 20s which followed, was the greatest boom in US history. Weird huh? This stimulus is bullshit and not needed, nothing but vote buying and payback for campaign contributors.
Posted by: Hotgas VIP Member at March 28, 2020 03:28 PM (Gl2vL) 246
I had good grades, but I'm leery of them vs. standardized testing. The test tells you whether the kid is smart. The grades tell you whether or not the kid liked going to High School. If a student is motivated for college, smart works just fine on its own. When you put a gun to a smart kid's head and force him to spend four years in a child-prison where dreams go to die, he may well perform poorly in that environment. I only got good grades to keep my parents off my ass. Given my own preference I would have ditched school every single day. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:28 PM (II2Y0) 247
i think people have mentioned that restaurants serving at half (or less) capacity, with say one unoccupied table between all guests, are a possibility for restaurants.
They were doing that last week when I was working in Wharton, TX. And they had outside seating. It was fine. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:28 PM (uOouc) 248
>>>Canada has open book Bar exam. Or so I've heard.
would not be a big deal even if they did. There is so much information and so many books that if you don't know the material pretty well, you're not going to be able to search for it during an exam. if you knew part of a case name but not the full name or proper name, yeah, that would help, but then, knowing the exact case name isn't such a huge thing. the only area I can think of this being helpful in is in local civil procedure, which is mostly "you have 21 days to issue a reply and 14 days from receipt of the reply to issue a surreply" and very detailed nits like that. It would help with that stuff. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:29 PM (PbpT7) 249
I only got good grades to keep my parents off my ass.
Damn, why didn't I think of that strategy! It's diabolical. Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:29 PM (T6t7i) 250
In my sorting thru the house, I found a paper strip bound pack of 10 pocket Constitutions. I have to meet with one of my attys on monday to draft and file a response to an order a judge issued late thurs. pm. The whole state is on lockdown. I am going to leave at least 3 or 4 of the pocket Constitutions on the table in the lobby of the office building. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 03:29 PM (vF+fs) 251
23 The President's speech in Norfolk sending off naval ship "Comfort" to NYC. It will take care of needs of people who don't have the coronavirus. It's a 30 minute clip. The first part explains that. At about 18:46 President Trump says "I'm proud to be your President":
https://tinyurl.com/v52sq8q Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 28, 2020 02:48 PM (WI7YS) Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:29 PM (KXX3K) 252
I have seen NO estimates of the eventual cost, other than the $2T figure. If they expect this to be a loan, and repaid, it would behoove them to make that point. Posted by: pep at March 28, 2020 03:25 PM (T6t7i) they kind of did when they talked about corporate liquidity funds, aid to small business. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:30 PM (zr5Kq) 253
The pet thread is up, by the way.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 03:30 PM (6ofTb) Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:31 PM (aKsyK) 255
194 How do people get these "academic scholarships," anyway? I was never clear on that point.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice --------- Social credits and minority status count bigly. 'Community activist' made me a slam-dunk for Harvard. Posted by: Barky Obama at March 28, 2020 03:16 PM (xSo9G) Back in grad school, NSF graduate scholarships were quite prestigious, and the recipients were impressive. Then we started noticing that some real shitheads were now recipients of them. WTF? Turned out that NSF started using "additional" criteria, such as race, sex, geographical location, etc., that is, things that had nothing whatever to do with ability. All was then clear. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:31 PM (YqDXo) 256
If it takes wearing a mask to get the country running again then let's do it. Might be tough to do that in a restaurant or bar though
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 03:20 PM (b/YIs) ------------ Haven't you seen the Chinese guy who put a small hole in his mask so he could smoke. If there's a will there's a way. Posted by: WisRich at March 28, 2020 03:31 PM (OAlmw) 257
USNS Comfort heading toward 13 at 12.2 knots.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 03:32 PM (obh/i) 258
>>>Canada has open book Bar exam. Or so I've heard. would not be a big deal even if they did. There is so much information and so many books that if you don't know the material pretty well, you're not going to be able to search for it during an exam. And the books are written in Latin. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:33 PM (aKsyK) 259
There is so much information and so many books that if you don't know the material pretty well, you're not going to be able to search for it during an exam.
That is what it is. They test on knowledge of material and especially its application. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:33 PM (zr5Kq) 260
If you guys want some ridiculous entertainment outsidexbox did a Gang Beasts live stream.
https://youtu.be/ct6JiPPoZG8 Posted by: buzzion at March 28, 2020 03:33 PM (Z7lwY) 261
It is pretty surprising how many out of state plates are in town. We are practically in mid-season form.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (ZLI7S) Here's the plan - invite them all to a statewide "Welcome to RI" reception. Free food and drink - the fuckers won't pass that up. Then Red Wedding their asses. Every. Single. One. Show no mercy. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:33 PM (uOouc) 262
PDT mentioned, at the ship, that the $2T is going to be, in the end, more in the vicinity of $6T.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (KXX3K) the other 4t is Fed Action - cheap money. so, expect refinance at 0% folks ! Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:34 PM (zr5Kq) 263
Zardoz was the worst Sean Connery movie ever made.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at March 28, 2020 03:35 PM (qMz/g) 264
Canada has open book Bar exam. Or so I've heard.
would not be a big deal even if they did. There is so much information and so many books that if you don't know the material pretty well, you're not going to be able to search for it during an exam. A pons asinorum. Stupid people will neglect studying in detail figuring, "Hey, it's open book," not realizing that that is an invitation to waste a lot of time looking up things you should have known. Looking up the odd detail, sure. Looking up much more than that ... you won't finish the test. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:35 PM (YqDXo) 265
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Oregon which has closed all schools due to the Flu Manchu also announced that online only charter schools must also close because...reasons. ------- This seems to be a perfect ooertunity for civil disobedience. Posted by: AmericanKestrel at March 28, 2020 03:36 PM (IDhUW) 266
A restaurant parking, patio furniture with umbrellas and social distancing, might be a thing in the future.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 03:36 PM (obh/i) 267
I mean, for Canadian bar exam, they care about application of what you learned.
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:37 PM (zr5Kq) Posted by: getting the banned back together crushing on her at March 28, 2020 03:37 PM (3DF0e) 269
Is anyone else a big fan of the Farlowe Out of Time?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:37 PM (PUmDY) 270
The Funddamentals of Engineering exam is open book. Any book you want to bring.
A lot of people roll in a cart. Doesn't mean the FE is easy. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (ZfRYq) 271
Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs) 272
Ace-
It seems to me that if general population wearing surgical masks were to be effective, as is being alleged in regard to S. Korea, it should be implemented early in the course of the outbreak, not at this stage, when most European countries are showing signs of peaking and beginning to decline, with the U.S. perhaps 10-14 days behind that. If the wearing of masks is just a fig leaf (of sorts) to allow people to get out and about, so be it, but I don't think it will change the trajectory of the epidemic much at this stage. I don't think we can discount other factors in the trajectory of S. Korea's apparent success. Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (m45I2) 273
Ladyl, if you sew or know someone who does, there are all sorts of tutorials on how to make masks on YouTube.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (/669Q) 274
"I have seen NO estimates of the eventual cost, other
than the $2T figure. If they expect this to be a loan, and repaid, it would behoove them to make that point." Posted by: pep I'd heard one reason they were buying up corporate (and municipal?) bonds (as the path to push liquidity) was that it was less of a giveaway ... bonds have to be repaid (barring bankruptcy I guess). BUT that is not even the $2T I think ... the ~$6T in QE is a whole nuther monster, that is "covertly" pushing its nose under the tent. But I'm still wondering if as with TARP, it is needed to save us from "collapse" .. which is (conspiracy music gets louder) ... the globalist plan of attack on sovereignty. (NWO plans, idk, the whole "debt cliff/bomb" thang). MMT is alive and well ... tick tock, #2weeks ... Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (Cus5s) 275
I think an open book exam format might be really effective.
Because -- you know that your notes, your notebooks, the stuff you bring to the exam, will substantially effect your grade. So that really forces you to be methodical and complete in your note-making and outline-making. So: You basically teach yourself the material while making your notebooks and outlines. And then during the test you don't look at your notes much (because you don't have time -- you either remember or you don't). but the process of making the notebooks has forced you to know most of your material. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (PbpT7) 276
Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs) --------- Spend every minute with my family and pray my ass off. Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (/669Q) 277
Ace, in trying to not yell at people I admire, I would like to change my comment earlier to:
I don't trust the current emergency to not being used to encroach on everyone's rights. The people pushing it were the same ones that pushed the drug war, the war on poverty and the multiple wars we have been in in since I was born. In many cases they are the SAME EXACT people. I am afraid this is just a panic drummed up to stampede public opinion out of fear of death and disgust of sickness. I apologize for yelling earlier, I took exception to the use of the term "disease vector" since this is an extremely loaded term, meant to manipulate people through their sense of disgust. I dislike feeling that I am being manipulated. I prefer to be bribed. Posted by: Kindltot at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (6rS3m) 278
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The test tells you whether the kid is smart. The grades tell you whether or not the kid liked going to High School. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice You must have grown up in a different world from me. Grades might indicate that you were good at school, but (even back in my day) they also were likely to indicate that you were in a preferential minority group ushered through school with inflated grades in mick classes and private tutors paid for by the district who hand-hold you through every test. Nowadays this is even more commonplace, but it started long long ago in "progressive" school districts. At my school one kid won the "Student of the Year" award because (repeat: BECAUSE) he was illiterate and yet was so brave to "keep trying" and not drop out of school. His GPA was 3.9+. Illiterate. Nothin' left to say. Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (N9G0H) 279
Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs) Hookers and blow. Accept no substitutes. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM (uOouc) 280
184. steevy I feel your pain. We in the philly collar counties were solid red, until the Philly bleed started. Which morphed into the NYC and MA and even Cali invasion. If the situation called for Philly being quarantined to save you guys, I would support it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM (QvAgz) 281
Spend every minute with my family and pray my ass off.
Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (/669Q) Awwww! Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM (NWiLs) 282
263 Zardoz was the worst Sean Connery movie ever made.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at March 28, 2020 03:35 PM (qMz/g) Clearly you never saw Darby O'Gill and the Little People. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM (trdmm) 283
>>>It seems to me that if general population wearing surgical masks were to be effective, as is being alleged in regard to S. Korea, it should be implemented early in the course of the outbreak, not at this stage, when most European countries are showing signs of peaking and beginning to decline, with the U.S. perhaps 10-14 days behind that. If the wearing of masks is just a fig leaf (of sorts) to allow people to get out and about, so be it, but I don't think it will change the trajectory of the epidemic much at this stage.
I don't think we can discount other factors in the trajectory of S. Korea's apparent success. ... okay maybe but anything that can help us Un-Shutdown would be good. Everyone I know who owns a business, or who merely works at a business, is freaking out. A friend of mine with a very successful company says he has cash reserves -- but only three months worth. After that, the company, which had been growing and profitable, is bankrupt. Whatever is needed to increase public confidence that we can re-open while still containing the virus gets a thumbs up from me. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:41 PM (PbpT7) 284
282 263 Zardoz was the worst Sean Connery movie ever made.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at March 28, 2020 03:35 PM (qMz/g) Clearly you never saw Darby O'Gill and the Little People. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM (trdmm) Parts of that movie were scary AF to a little kid. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:41 PM (NWiLs) 285
A month or so ago I was anti-cheap paper mask in the sense that they really don't do much to prevent you from getting the virus. They aren't form-fitting and are open on the sides, plus you can get the virus through your eyes and ears just as well. People wearing them either grew up in Asia where this is standard practice a lot of the year during normal times, or were virtue signalling.
Now, I'll say that wearing the cheap paper masks is helpful, particularly to stop all the asymptomatic carriers of the virus (who we now know are out there) from spreading it. It's about preventing spread rather than protecting yourself per se. Posted by: saldog at March 28, 2020 03:41 PM (gJAok) 286
Actual information about the stimulus bill is available. Not about loans. Loans are the mechanism for businesses. Don't fire or lay-off anybody then the loan is forgiven so more of a direct payment. Checks to individuals.
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:41 PM (ZfRYq) 287
the other 4t is Fed Action - cheap money. so, expect refinance at 0% folks ! Posted by: runner How much is the bank going to charge me for my savings account? Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (aKsyK) 288
It is easier to buy an AR-15 than a N-95 mask.
Gun Control now!!! Almost forgot... Death to Trump!!!!! RHEEEEEE!!! Posted by: This is CNN at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (pw+jk) 289
The virus is necessitating a lot of much-needed rethinking about what is valuable, and what is not.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 +++++ You mean like that advanced degree in Interpretive Lesbian Merengue is pretty much useless then. Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (T09ml) 290
Pliskin? I thought he was dead
Posted by: ataxnfo at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (S52gD) 291
am going to leave at least 3 or 4 of the pocket Constitutions on the table in the lobby of the office building. It will be interesting to see what happens.
Mira! Papel del banyo! Ja ja ja! Posted by: ja ja ja gringos at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (3DF0e) 292
and note -- that is a very HEALTHY company!
What weaker companies or even meh companies will do... I mean, we need to reopen quickly. The government can't pay us welfare forever. (And there is a Socialism Risk associated with people getting used to collecting a government check while sitting on their asses at home.) Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (PbpT7) 293
Whatever is needed to increase public confidence that we can re-open while still containing the virus gets a thumbs up from me.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:41 PM (PbpT7) Reopening businesses is one thing, getting people to go back out is another. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (TLxpZ) 294
Whatever is needed to increase public confidence that we can re-open while still containing the virus gets a thumbs up from me.
Posted by: ace ********* Fair enough. Fig leaves serve a purpose. Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (m45I2) 295
You mean like that advanced degree in Interpretive Lesbian Merengue is pretty much useless then.
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (T09ml) Now let's not be too hasty. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (YqDXo) 296
I closed a 3% refinance the other day with no points.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:44 PM (PUmDY) 297
"most European countries are showing signs of peaking and beginning to decline, with the U.S. perhaps 10-14 days behind that" Muldoon
I've heard that different cities/regions are more like separate countries ... NY is at one stage, New Orleans another ... it is a bunch of different bell shaped curves. ... I don't know how that worked in S Korea ... but it makes sense for the US Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 03:44 PM (Cus5s) 298
279 Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs) Hookers and blow. Accept no substitutes. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM (uOouc) Word. Base pursuits all the way. Maybe settling scores. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:44 PM (NWiLs) 299
Many jurisdictions in the US have added a third day performance-based assessment to the bar exam (other days are essay and the multi-state multiple choice exam). The pba is "open book" in the sense that all the necessary resources are provided. You get a fact pattern, 3 or 4 cases from different types of jurisdictions, a statute, etc. Then you must actually lawyer. Most think it's the most difficult part of the exam.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (87EdW) 300
276 Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs) --------- Spend every minute with my family and pray my ass off. Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (/669Q) plus I'm too nice to say I got a list. but I got a list. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (trdmm) 301
oh by the way, my friends' company, in addition to having a permanent staff which is not working but is still being paid, has to rent a lot of office spaces in different locations.
Obviously the landlords are still expecting their rent payments, even if the company is now bringing in near-zero revenue. In case you were wondering why he only had three months of cash. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (PbpT7) 302
When the commie cough crisis blows over you're going to see "last person out of NYC metro please turn out the lights"
Posted by: Regular joe at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (6/uwW) 303
I don't think the masks are a fig leaf or just for confidence building. Recall lots of shutdown orders are through April.
I think they actually work. And if they ALSO give people a sense of safety that's a good thing. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (ZfRYq) 304
Zardoz was the worst Sean Connery movie ever made.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at March 28, 2020 +++ Yeah but that leather jockstrap was GREAT! Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (T09ml) 305
Whatever is needed to increase public confidence that we can re-open while still containing the virus gets a thumbs up from me.
Posted by: ace Count me squarely on the "this is all bullshit" team - but I'll wear the damn mask for a bit if the panic people will then shut up. And I will bitch about it every second of the way. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:46 PM (uOouc) 306
294 Whatever is needed to increase public confidence that we can re-open while still containing the virus gets a thumbs up from me.
Posted by: ace ********* Fair enough. Fig leaves serve a purpose. Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (m45I2) Cover your nakedness. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:46 PM (NWiLs) 307
Muldoon- I don't fear dying, I fear the treatment. I painfully recall my mom's last days when she had that apparatus assisting her breathing. She looked like she was being tortured. If I have to wear a mask, a bandanna, AND a burqa to avoid that fate, I'm doing it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:46 PM (QvAgz) 308
How much is the bank going to charge me for my savings account?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (aKsyK) Runner Bank will not charge you at all. As long as you deposit minimum 1 million dollars and never fall bellow 1 million in your average daily balance. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:46 PM (zr5Kq) 309
Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:38 PM (NWiLs) === I've got some scores to settle with the left. Posted by: This is CNN at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (pw+jk) 310
One week with the family. One week of rampage. If I have nothing to lose, then people will taste my pain. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (II2Y0) 311
Masks and eye protection if nothing else remind you not to put your fingers there after touching public objects
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (ZCEU2) 312
308 How much is the bank going to charge me for my savings account?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 28, 2020 03:42 PM (aKsyK) Runner Bank will not charge you at all. As long as you deposit minimum 1 million dollars and never fall bellow 1 million in your average daily balance. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:46 PM (zr5Kq) And set up direct deposit for $1 million a week. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (NWiLs) 313
Is it just me, Huma, or does your noose feel a little tighter, too?
Posted by: Lady Hillary de Chappaqua at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (Zo1XC) 314
I think Trump is calling bluffs. Good for him
Posted by: artemis at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (AwPyG) 315
Obviously the landlords are still expecting their rent payments, even if the company is now bringing in near-zero revenue.
In case you were wondering why he only had three months of cash. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (PbpT7) I think we'll see unprecedented cooperation by landlords to work with tenants. It's not like there's much demand waiting for the space if they evict someone for not paying. Bailouts for commercial real estate will increase. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (TLxpZ) 316
Assume you only have #twoweeks to live. What would you do during those two weeks?
Guessing some people would have less than 13 days then in that case. Posted by: wouldnt you be getting the banned back together at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (3DF0e) 317
302 When the commie cough crisis blows over you're going to see "last person out of NYC metro please turn out the lights"
Posted by: Regular joe at March 28, 2020 03:45 PM (6/uwW) I wonder about that re the financial industry. It's based in NYC, apparently gets taxed up the wazoo, is in the crosshairs of every leftist demagogue, is super expensive, and now this. Might that trigger/accelerate the financial industries' move out of NYC? Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (mlxZk) 318
Shit - reopen the businesses and I am there. After the fucking grocery store, anything is an upgrade.
Posted by: rammajamma at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (SwWMX) 319
One week of rampage. If I have nothing to lose, then people will taste my pain.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM (II2Y0) I feel ya. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:48 PM (NWiLs) 320
Word. Base pursuits all the way. Maybe settling scores.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:44 PM (NWiLs) You don't lawyer don't have anything to worry about if there are only 2 weeks left ?? Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:48 PM (zr5Kq) 321
Talk about it here, lol.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:48 PM (PUmDY) 322
>>>307 Muldoon- I don't fear dying, I fear the treatment. I painfully recall my mom's last days when she had that apparatus assisting her breathing. She looked like she was being tortured. If I have to wear a mask, a bandanna, AND a burqa to avoid that fate, I'm doing it.
I was witness to a pneumonia death, which included the medically-induced coma and intubation. And then there was brain damage due to either the coma or a long loss of oxygen, and doctors said that even if the person ever came out of the coma, it would be as a near-vegetable. And then eventually the person was left to just die. It's a very bad kind of death. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:48 PM (PbpT7) 323
We in the philly collar counties were solid red, until the Philly bleed started. Which morphed into the NYC and MA and even Cali invasion. If the situation called for Philly being quarantined to save you guys, I would support it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:40 PM ++++ THIS ^^^ (Btw, what parish?) Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (T09ml) 324
*you don't think lawyers have...
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (zr5Kq) 325
You don't lawyer don't have anything to worry about if there are only 2 weeks left ??
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:48 PM (zr5Kq) Um, what? Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (NWiLs) 326
Conservative Review scorecard: Thomas Massie--96%---A Kevin McCarthy---36%---F Mitch McConnell--28%---F hmm Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (mw1Wz) 327
I've heard that different cities/regions are more like separate countries ... NY is at one stage, New Orleans another ... it is a bunch of different bell shaped curves. ... I don't know how that worked in S Korea ... but it makes sense for the US
Posted by: illiniwek *********** My suspicion is that is one reason the U.S. has higher daily rate of new cases than every country in Europe. The geographic extent of the U.S. with multiple population centers is causing what you describe. Another possible factor is the extent of actual testing (and reporting) giving an elevated count of cases, including less symptomatic cases. Different methodologies give different results. Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (m45I2) 328
Masks and eye protection if nothing else remind you not to put your fingers there after touching public objects
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 03:47 PM ++++ Of course. I read that as "pubic objects" But that's the way my mind works. Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 28, 2020 03:50 PM (T09ml) 329
>>>I think we'll see unprecedented cooperation by landlords to work with tenants. It's not like there's much demand waiting for the space if they evict someone for not paying.
Bailouts for commercial real estate will increase. okay, well, I meant to ask my friend about that, but he was downloading all of his fear and stress. He might have overlooked some positive things for the drama. He did seem pretty relieved about the Trump business bailout, where the loans don't have to be repaid if you just keep paying your employees. (That is, loan amounts spent on payroll are noncrecoverable.) Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:50 PM (PbpT7) 330
Supposedly Subway and one of the big mattress chains say they aren't going to pay rent this month.
A lot of people out of hourly jobs are going to do the same thing. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:50 PM (ZfRYq) 331
Hey friendly here in the proposed quarantine shitzone NYC area.
WTF over? Some details would be nice. Like anything? Posted by: Evil Libertarian behind enemy lines at March 28, 2020 03:12 PM (f7BRq) No details. Stay in place and prepare to defend yourself, to the last man if necessary. FPF is being routed to your area so keep your head down, report any enemy movement if you can. Charlie Mike, over. Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 28, 2020 03:50 PM (Z+IKu) 332
Zardoz was the worst Sean Connery movie ever made.
Posted by: Angel Artiste at March 28, 2020 Whereas Barbarella was the best movie Jane Fonda ever made. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:50 PM (mlxZk) Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at March 28, 2020 03:51 PM (pw+jk) 334
Um, what?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (NWiLs) I amended my post. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:51 PM (zr5Kq) 335
307 Muldoon- I don't fear dying, I fear the treatment. I painfully recall my mom's last days when she had that apparatus assisting her breathing. She looked like she was being tortured. If I have to wear a mask, a bandanna, AND a burqa to avoid that fate, I'm doing it.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:46 PM (QvAgz) This is why I want to know the US stats on Dr. Raoult's plaquenil and azithromycin regimen. I would rather accept those risks than be vented. Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 03:51 PM (ONvIw) 336
Since when were people so enthused about sharing airborne microbes, virii and other nasties anyway? All of us are walking petri dishes at any given moment. I appreciate summa yawz crave my disease and shit, but sorry: I must deny you my essence by wearing my plague mask.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:51 PM (QvAgz) 337
>>Everyone I know who owns a business, or who merely works at a business, is freaking out. A friend of mine with a very successful company says he has cash reserves -- but only three months worth. After that, the company, which had been growing and profitable, is bankrupt.
My business partner and I were literally right in the middle of our first round of financing when the world shutdown. Our current daily expenses are pretty light but we need the money to keep going and to really launch the business. We also have some substantial expenses that can't be extended for things like patent renewals in numerous countries. Needless to say we have no idea if and when the investor sector will reopen so we are teetering on extinction. It also doesn't help that our biggest customers are large cities and municipalities including London and NYC, both of which are closed. Nothing like adding a little stress and anxiety to an already stressful and anxious time. Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM (ZLI7S) 338
I closed a 3% refinance the other day with no points.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:44 PM (PUmDY) Closed Thursday 2.75% with .17 points on a 5/1 ARM Posted by: Ha at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM (fWd7a) 339
I wouldn't spend a minute settling scores. I'd play pinochle with my family, visit friends, love the wife, walk the dog. Soak up the good stuff, forget the bad.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM (87EdW) 340
Would a filter tip cigarette in each nostril help?
Posted by: filter, flavor, pack or box! at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM (3DF0e) 341
335. yup
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:53 PM (QvAgz) 342
339 I wouldn't spend a minute settling scores. I'd play pinochle with my family, visit friends, love the wife, walk the dog. Soak up the good stuff, forget the bad.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM (87EdW) yeah, I know. But that's no fun to say on the net. Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 03:53 PM (trdmm) Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 03:53 PM (/669Q) 344
New York and New Orleans share a characteristic - they are both shitholes. And let's be clear on this and the flu-like illnesses -they all kill the same way - you get viral pneumonia you are done, bacterial and you have a chance.
Posted by: rammajamma at March 28, 2020 03:53 PM (SwWMX) 345
Soak up the good stuff, forget the bad.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM (87EdW) Like I said - Hookers and Blow. Posted by: I Am No One at March 28, 2020 03:54 PM (uOouc) 346
243 i went to a shitty high school in Plymouth Mass. Only about 10 students went on to college. I was one of them, and was granted all sorts of legacy scholarhips that I didnt have to apply for, because 90% of the graduating classs's future plans were to hang out in fromt of the Package Store.
Posted by: Regular joe at March 28, 2020 03:54 PM (6/uwW) 347
Best thing is to get a working, viable vaccine and test to see if you have antibodies. No need to chase virus from state to state and quarantines. I am sure they are working as fast as they can, but if you get tested for antibodies - and you are good, no need to quarantine or masks.
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:54 PM (zr5Kq) 348
Muldoon, am I correct in thinking that successful use of azithromycin and other anti-bacterial agents suggests that a lot of the mortality from corona virus comes from opportunistic secondary bacterial infections?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 03:54 PM (mlxZk) 349
334 Um, what?
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (NWiLs) I amended my post. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:51 PM (zr5Kq) Hmm. Still don't follow. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:55 PM (NWiLs) 350
341: I love how he called the suit doctors "television birds". He makes Depardieu look well groomed, but I've been reading his stuff and he sounds like the real deal.
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 03:55 PM (ONvIw) 351
My company has already laid off 15% of the staff and cut pay for the remaining by 20%. For reasons not eligible for the loans.
A business that has 3 months of cash to pay everything is extremely rare. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (ZfRYq) 352
>>>342 339 I wouldn't spend a minute settling scores. I'd play pinochle with my family, visit friends, love the wife, walk the dog. Soak up the good stuff, forget the bad.
Posted by: Farmer Bob I would engage in almost nothing except score-settling, plus a couple of three ways. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (PbpT7) 353
Reopening businesses is one thing, getting people to go back out is another. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (TLxpZ) I can understand your reticence to stepping out but most of the country is relatively clean and should be allowed, with proper distancing, out. NY, NJ, and CT are behind the curve but hopefully this medication will relieve all. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (obh/i) 354
RealID was delayed for a year. That almost makes it all worth it.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (TLxpZ) 355
It's a very bad kind of death.
Posted by: ace ******* That sounds rough. We each have our own perspectives on death and dying. My own perspective is very different than most, having been professionally involved with dead and dying infants and children. There are very few 'nice' deaths. I've never once said that this isn't a nasty virus and I wouldn't wish it on anybody. Best wishes and stay healthy. Do what you feel is right. Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (m45I2) 356
Hmm. Still don't follow.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:55 PM (NWiLs) If you wish to settle scores as your last urrah, there may be other people out there who wish to settle scores. Some may wish to settle with you - being of legal profession and all. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (zr5Kq) 357
6 Only thing I can understand about this freeing the prisoners thing is if it's some sort of subversive effort to de-legitimize the entire concept of prisons.
Otherwise it makes even less sense than any of the rest of this insanity. Posted by: BurtTC at March 28, 2020 02:44 PM First thing that came to my mind when I heard about prisoners being released is the scene in Batman Begins. Where they deliberately released the prisoners, because they wanted the drug they were releasing into the city to affect the bad guys and cause chaos to destroy the city. In this case, we have a virus that is in America's cities, so what better way to spread it even more than to release a bunch of criminals who refuse to obey laws and 'stay-at-home' orders. Ironically, in Batman Begins, the solution was to blow up the bridges to keep people from leaving the city to limit the spread. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 28, 2020 03:57 PM (Do5/p) 358
>>Hang in there, JackStraw.
Not much else I can do right now. We are all in the same boat so no point in whining. I can deal with waiting, it's the uncertainty of the situation that is the most stressful. Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:58 PM (ZLI7S) 359
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-- Would a filter tip cigarette in each nostril help? Posted by: filter, flavor, pack or box! at March 28, 2020 03:52 PM ------------ Made me lol. Posted by: irright at March 28, 2020 03:59 PM (RVcmP) 360
323. When I lived in the city, Old St. Joe's. Now in the burbs, I'm close to DE state.
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 03:59 PM (QvAgz) 361
Well, I hope their the good kind of three ways, but if not, I understand the trick is to not make eye contact. Unless it's the Gillum kind of 3 way, then I guess your shooting for Lucky Pierre.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 28, 2020 03:59 PM (87EdW) 362
Since we have some of our medical peeps right here - have any of you seen any info re how long you would shed the virus once you start feeling better?
The most difficult question for me is what to do about people that have it but show no symptoms. Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 03:59 PM (/669Q) 363
Call me a whining boy if you will.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 03:59 PM (PUmDY) 364
Neontaster is on board with the mask-thing:
neontaster @neontaster · 32m By the way I think the CDC is wrong to tell people not to wear masks since their reasoning seems to be "they don't fully protect but will give you a false sense of security." I get that, but something in front of your mouth and nose can't not be better than nothing at all. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 04:00 PM (KXX3K) 365
mortality from corona virus comes from opportunistic secondary bacterial infections?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara ******* Could be one aspect, but probably not the only one. I've heard bits and pieces about inflammatory aspects of the disease as well. I'm not an expert in the ins-and-outs of this particular virus. Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 04:00 PM (m45I2) 366
Not much else I can do right now. We are all in the same boat so no point in whining. ------- Yeah, I *think* my personal position is fairly secure, but I was whining pretty hard about what is happening to people in my business across our offices in other places yesterday. Sad shit, man. But, you're right. There's no point. It's in G-d's hands now. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 28, 2020 04:00 PM (II2Y0) 367
there must be studies on viral transmission ... via breathing versus eye contact, versus touching infected surfaces.
All the Asia pictures in my mind at least, have the mask but not eye protection ... except maybe normal % with glasses. Just guessing, masks and hand washing are more vital than catching the stray virus particle (viron?) in the eye ... more likely it gets pushed there by a finger. There must be Real Science on all that, even if there is some variation for each virus. Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 04:00 PM (Cus5s) Posted by: Buttgig at March 28, 2020 04:01 PM (fWd7a) 369
317 the financial industry's diaspora is in full swing to places like the Carolinas, OH, Iowa...
Posted by: Regular joe at March 28, 2020 04:01 PM (6/uwW) 370
262 PDT mentioned, at the ship, that the $2T is going to be, in the end, more in the vicinity of $6T.
Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 03:26 PM (KXX3K) the other 4t is Fed Action - cheap money. so, expect refinance at 0% folks ! Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 03:34 PM (zr5Kq) Thanks, runner! Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 04:01 PM (KXX3K) 371
Plenty of studies about masks.
Even bandanas are better than nothing. This is why CDC recommendation was use bandanas if you don't have anything else Media flipped over that. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 04:02 PM (ZfRYq) 372
I can deal with waiting, it's the uncertainty of the situation that is the most stressful.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:58 PM (ZLI7S --------. I hear you. My son's hours were cut to 32 this week, and now he's told 24 next week. He's wondering if he will still have a job after the next week or two. Posted by: bluebell at March 28, 2020 04:02 PM (/669Q) 373
I can deal with waiting, it's the uncertainty of the situation that is the most stressful.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 03:58 PM (ZLI7S == Watched a number of interviews with Trump, in one he was on Letterman, I thin promoting The Art of the Comeback. At the time he a bad 7 or so years. Bankruptcy, divorce all kinds of stuff. He talked about what he had to do to get back. Can be done. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 04:02 PM (zr5Kq) 374
Having had pneumonia, I can attest to the shittiness. I took 2 antibiotics together to knock it out, and it worked quickly. My breathing is fine, but my digestive system took a hit even with the probiotics.
If I had a choice I'd go with the plaquenil and zithromycin/(or doxycycline). Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 04:03 PM (ONvIw) 375
32m
By the way I think the CDC is wrong to tell people not to wear masks since their reasoning seems to be "they don't fully protect but will give you a false sense of security." I get that, but something in front of your mouth and nose can't not be better than nothing at all. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 04:00 PM (KXX3K) If you've ever worn one of those masks while spray painting or even painting with a brush or roller you know how much those masks do help. They may not stop all but they do stop much. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:04 PM (obh/i) 376
>>>371 Plenty of studies about masks.
Even bandanas are better than nothing. ... i was going to suggest/ask about that. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 04:04 PM (PbpT7) 377
State Supreme Court Justice Mark Dwyer needs some justice served.
No repercussions no change in behavior. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 28, 2020 04:06 PM (pw+jk) 378
I am proud he is my President!
Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 04:07 PM (vF+fs) Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 04:08 PM (ZfRYq) 380
Maybe we are so far gone into unConstitutionality by means of "never letting crises go to waste" , that the only way to cure ourselves is to monopolize the crisis on the other side.
I really hate this and especially hate that Trump called out a congressman for doing his damn job, despite showboat McCarthy's sucking up. Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 04:08 PM (mw1Wz) 381
USNS Comfort at Lighthouse Henry, 5.5 knots, turning east northeast.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:08 PM (obh/i) 382
I am not into personal revenge. Waste of time.
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 04:08 PM (zr5Kq) 383
Our little company has a year's worth of reserves... just cause we personally do. Thank you Dave Ramsey! Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2020 04:09 PM (7M6jj) 384
That's it ! Plague doctor masks. What ??
Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 04:09 PM (zr5Kq) 385
The best thing about this pandemic ending is that a bunch of people will soon be experts in another subject. Maybe Las Vegas is taking bets on what the next "hairs on fire" event will be.
Posted by: Half off at the Faintaing Couch Emporium! Free Shipping included!! at March 28, 2020 04:09 PM (/LQkF) 386
OH GOODY I have a Tornado Warning in the county next to me
Posted by: WuHAN Solo at March 28, 2020 04:10 PM (Wajtf) 387
Our little company has a year's worth of reserves... just cause we personally do.
Thank you Dave Ramsey! Posted by: MarkY at March 28, 2020 04:09 PM (7M6jj) I think many businesses will rethink their operating model. Have reserves. Individuals too. Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 04:11 PM (zr5Kq) 388
It never once occurred to them, not once in their lives, that the entire sports world could just be turned off, like flipping a light switch. Now they are desperately racing to try to understand a world they've never even tried to pay attention to before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM This was me on 09/12/2001. Maybe this is a bright spot in a bad situation: maybe more people will be awakened to the world of politics and will begin to inform and educate themselves as I did when this happened to my sheltered world of ignorance after the terrorist attacks. Within weeks of the attacks, I found Rush Limbaugh and my awakening was off and running. Just have to hope that in times like these, people seek out rational thought and logic and do not turn to cults, liberalism or government. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 28, 2020 04:11 PM (Do5/p) 389
Fair enough. Fig leaves serve a purpose.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (m45I2) Cover your nakedness. Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 28, 2020 03:46 ------------------ Well, maybe works for the less endowed set. Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 28, 2020 04:11 PM (Dhht7) 390
386
OH GOODY I have a Tornado Warning in the county next to me Posted by: WuHAN Solo at March 28, 2020 04:10 PM (Wajtf) Yikes, stay safe! Posted by: Jordan61 at March 28, 2020 04:12 PM (6ofTb) 391
Even bandanas are better than nothing.
... i was going to suggest/ask about that. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 04:04 PM (PbpT7) baklavas Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 04:12 PM (G546f) 392
Mark Dwyer is an "Acting" judge, whatever that means, and he is the same judge who sentenced two men to prison for daring to fight with Antifa thugs last fall. The two men, sentenced to FOUR YEARS each, called themselves "Proud Boys" and Dwyer didn't like them defying Antifa one little bit.
But, stalking a female and gruesomely murdering her (captured on video)? Not a big deal. https://tinyurl.com/vw3w6ou Posted by: Huck Follywood, hunker in the bunker at March 28, 2020 04:13 PM (NVYyb) 393
Ace:
Where did you find the masks? I only see them on Amazon and they take anywhere from four to eight weeks for delivery. Posted by: IrishEi at March 28, 2020 04:14 PM (sGotD) 394
Well same storm but A Sever Thunderstorm warning
Posted by: WuHAN Solo at March 28, 2020 04:14 PM (Wajtf) 395
If not closely breathed upon of coughed on chances must be slim to get it as long as you don't put it in your own mouth.
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 04:15 PM (ZCEU2) 396
masks in closed spaces with other people, but in the open it might be better to take them off. They will need a field guide to masks, glasses/goggles, a little technique )whitehouse.gov can keep it there ... with an attractive woman demonstrating please (just so people watch, not for me of course) .... then open up America, with the more vulnerable staying more isolated.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 04:15 PM (Cus5s) 397
.. But that patch Pirate is smoking ,Cuomo whatcha gonna do..watcha gonna do when the masks show up.............
Posted by: saf at March 28, 2020 04:15 PM (5IHGB) 398
Impersonal revenge would be a good band name.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:16 PM (PUmDY) Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2020 04:17 PM (FhXTo) Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 28, 2020 04:18 PM (5kRQZ) 401
Conservative Review scorecard:
Thomas Massie--96%---A Kevin McCarthy---36%---F Mitch McConnell--28%---F hmm Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 03:49 PM (mw1Wz) I was not at all mad at Massie for causing a stink over the stimulus bill. I think we would be better off without it. I say this even though both my kids laid off by our governor ordering the virtual shut down of the restaurants they worked at. We would be better getting through this tough time as a family than we will be with "free" money from the government that will cost us far more... and not just in money... in the long term. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 28, 2020 04:21 PM (nAiE/) 402
Marzipan is really dumb.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:23 PM (PUmDY) 403
391 Even bandanas are better than nothing.
... i was going to suggest/ask about that. Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 04:04 PM (PbpT7) baklavas Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 28, 2020 04:12 PM (G546f) balaclavas Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 04:24 PM (KXX3K) 404
money... in the long term.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 28, 2020 04:21 PM (nAiE/) Massie's complaint was procedural, he wasn't opposing the bill. Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 04:24 PM (s9Eo8) 405
Odd, the Comfort was headed north northeast at 12 knots now it's headed east southeast at 5 knots.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:25 PM (obh/i) 406
405 Odd, the Comfort was headed north northeast at 12 knots now it's headed east southeast at 5 knots.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:25 PM (obh/i) huh Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 04:26 PM (KXX3K) Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 04:26 PM (vF+fs) 408
391 - vmom - balaclavas?
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 04:26 PM (QvAgz) 409
We would be better getting through this tough time as a family than we will be with "free" money from the government that will cost us far more... and not just in money... in the long term.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner Thought we learned our lesson with Obama/Paulson. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:27 PM (obh/i) 410
wait, you can track, in real time, the position of a USN ship???!!!!
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 04:27 PM (s9Eo8) 411
Convicted murderers being released from prison into the public sphere while law-abiding citizens are being threatened with imprisonment for leaving their homes.
This will not end well. Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at March 28, 2020 04:28 PM (jWe5r) 412
Massie's complaint was procedural, he wasn't opposing the bill.
Which was a completely Constitutional and valid issue. ANd he stated that he was using it to draw attention to the arrogance and assholery of the Democrats in their shity little power play. But the gimme gimmes were freaked out that their gubmint cheese whiz would be delayed by an hour. I guess a Constitutional republic is only good for " non-emergencies". Good info. Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 04:28 PM (mw1Wz) 413
We would be better getting through this tough time
as a family than we will be with "free" money from the government that will cost us far more... and not just in money... in the long term. Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner Thought we learned our lesson with Obama/Paulson. Posted by: Braenyard The Free Shit Army will never learn. Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 04:29 PM (mw1Wz) 414
My assistant can diagnose corona over the phone.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:29 PM (PUmDY) 415
Yeah, if they could stop with the daily broadcast phone alarm messages to not touch ourselves or whatever, that would be great. Yeah.
Posted by: WTP at March 28, 2020 04:30 PM (WQfDg) 416
FWIW I'm a landlord and I told all my tenants that
1) If they're employed and collecting their normal check, no change in rent. 2) If they got laid off and provide written documentation: April rent is deferred until they can collect unemployment, and then it will be split up among the rest of the rent payment for the year. None of my properties are in a position where I need to worry about paying the mortgage. I did tell my tenants however that major maintenance issues may take longer to be addressed - so far none have complained. I spoke to my lender this past week and they said they can work with me if my tenant situation puts the loans under stress. I've been a really good source of revenue for my (local) lender and there's a lot of motivation on his part to keep these properties in my possession. Posted by: Defenestratus at March 28, 2020 04:30 PM (9V81o) 417
Posted by: Braenyard
The Free Shit Army will never learn. Posted by: deplorable unperson Because they never suffer. Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 04:30 PM (vF+fs) 418
I've already shaved off my beard and cut my hair short for the duration. Less places for the little murderers to cling to me plus better mask fit.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2020 04:31 PM (Z4rgH) 419
406 405 Odd, the Comfort was headed north northeast at 12 knots now it's headed east southeast at 5 knots.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:25 PM (obh/i) huh Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 04:26 PM (KXX3K) 407 Lighthouse Henry, Can't find a webcam. Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 04:26 PM (vF+fs) I'm using a google map to identify landmarks and https://tinyurl.com/tgd4vfz, (thanks to commenter who's name I forgot). The link is to a cool marine traffic map. The lighthouse is on the south side of the river, east of the 13 bridge. You can't miss it. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:31 PM (obh/i) 420
death rate is still spiking upward ... 1988 last check (not the year, that is the total for U.S.) 292 today.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 28, 2020 04:32 PM (Cus5s) 421
free" money from the government that will cost us far more
a. It's a small increase in the giant sucking hole. II: The second the media said Trump and Virus in the same paragraph it became a political problem. 3- Trump 2020 is a prerequisite of USA surviving at all. Posted by: DaveA at March 28, 2020 04:32 PM (FhXTo) 422
Where the Hell are we supposed to buy masks? Every Chinese student and H1B visa holder in the metro-Boston region bought them all up and sent them back to the mainland months ago and now China isn't exporting any until May. The EU isn't exporting them either and every commercial supplier with inventory left is only selling to hospitals or .gov agencies right now.
Posted by: Oh no! Not the bees! at March 28, 2020 04:32 PM (N5dam) 423
Ok, found a link to track the Comfort. I think someone left their phone at port.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 04:33 PM (s9Eo8) 424
416 - that sounds fair
Posted by: kallisto at March 28, 2020 04:33 PM (QvAgz) Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:33 PM (obh/i) 426
Settle down Francis.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:34 PM (PUmDY) 427
My daughter is living in Korea right now --- in a city about 2 hrs south of Seoul.
The rules differ from place to place in the country, BTW. Where daughter is --- a very low risk area ---masks are only legally required on public transportation, I think, and for food handlers. But many people, especially the elderly, wear them anyway. They DO quarantine outsiders, though. If you travel from Seoul or certain other (relative) hotspots to a cool-spot, they will make you stay home for a while. (It was two weeks when I last heard.) And they can take your temperature at will --- on the street, in a store, at a park, at school. Anywhere, anytime. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2020 04:34 PM (M/9m0) 428
422: it irks me that most of the people sporting n95s are Chinese. It's like they knew something.
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 04:34 PM (5wOoy) 429
428 422: it irks me that most of the people sporting n95s are Chinese. It's like they knew something.
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 04:34 PM (5wOoy) Or a cultural thing. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:36 PM (obh/i) 430
Has the death rate spiked to a single percentage point yet? Rhetorical ?.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:36 PM (PUmDY) 431
There's a tape of a doctor at Cornel Medical Center. v. rough--a recorded phone conversation. He decides who goes on ventilators. So he does Chinese Flu all day every day. He says the chief danger is touching something, then touching your face. The point of a mask isn't its protection, but that it keeps you from touching your face. Lots of other good stuff. 40 minutes of lecture then questions from a couple dozen people on the call.
Dr. David Price, it's on Vimeo, was recorded 3/22. Uptalk at the beginning that makes it hard to listen to, but when he gets into the nuts and bolts his voice steadies and he becomes someone whose authority seems trustworthy. Posted by: Wenda at March 28, 2020 04:36 PM (FH0x6) 432
Sh*t.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:37 PM (obh/i) Posted by: Hmmm at March 28, 2020 04:37 PM (fWd7a) 434
The hospital ship may just be circling, as they wait for the dredging to be completed.
Posted by: GnuBreed at March 28, 2020 04:38 PM (Z4rgH) 435
429: only since January, and not Korean or Taiwanese people.
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 04:38 PM (5wOoy) 436
At aces reco I went to eBay for masks.
Available! Cheap! Delivery next week! I bought a package of 50. eBay just sent me a note they closed the sellers account due to undefined problems with the account. Maybe I will get the item. If I don't open a complaint. So, there is that. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 04:38 PM (ZfRYq) 437
It was headed ene at 12.5 knts.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:39 PM (obh/i) 438
Even bandanas are better than nothing.
--------------------------- Yes. A lot of young girls use pretty bandanas where my daughter is in Korea. Sometimes there are shortages even there, where export of masks is now forbidden, but often the switch to bandanas is out of vanity. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2020 04:41 PM (M/9m0) Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 04:41 PM (ZLI7S) 440
Fair enough. Fig leaves serve a purpose.
Posted by: Muldoon at March 28, 2020 03:43 PM (m45I2) Cover your nakedness. Posted by: Insomniac ------- Ah. One of my favorite Biblical questions: "An WHO told you that you are naked?" Awkward moment, that one. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 04:41 PM (CDGwz) 441
436: I have plenty of masks, as a family member was undergoing chemo. Even a box of 20 n95s. As soon as I heard of wuflu, I checked for masks online and found nothing
Posted by: CN at March 28, 2020 04:41 PM (5wOoy) 442
South Korea not only wore face masks they did aggressive contact tracing.
They not only published the locations of where infected people had been they provided an app with live mapping. They gave out specific information about locations and published the locations of transmission clusters so that people could not only avoid contact risk at those known locations but also could self report for testing if they were exposed to those locations. South Korea, Taiwan and Singapore did this. They used cell phone location data, credit card data and other data stripping it of personal identification and then publishing it. Masks was only one of the components. Wide testing capacity with little to no barriers to testing, publication of locations and specific transmission clusters and mask wearing. South Korea and Singapore also did do localized lockdowns with deep cleaning. South Korea did lock down of the city of Daegu in addition to all the above measures. And the US military did lockdowns of our bases in South Korea. South Korea and Taiwan also provided live maps of where masks would be in stock so people would not have to risk exposure to multiple locations trying to hunt for them. Singapore provided four free masks per family a week IIRC. Probably the most important factor is detailed information about the specific locations and associations of transmission clusters. Posted by: Bailey at March 28, 2020 04:41 PM (o8SEp) 443
Paint store.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:42 PM (obh/i) 444
The lighthouse is on the south side of the river, east of the 13 bridge. You can't miss it.
Posted by: Braenyard ------ You overestimate my navigational skills. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 04:44 PM (CDGwz) Posted by: IrishEi at March 28, 2020 04:45 PM (sGotD) 446
442---Probably the most important factor is detailed information about the specific locations and associations of transmission clusters.
Posted by: Bailey at March 28, 2020 04:41 PM (o8SEp) ------------------------- Amen to that. But there are clearly certain cultural/political traditions that make such tracking easier in Asia. I dunno. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2020 04:45 PM (M/9m0) 447
JS, I pray Dead and Company still tour this summer.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:47 PM (PUmDY) 448
Yup, our Governor here in Florida was advised New Yorkers were fleeing their liberal utopia for Florida(primarily south Florida) and this driving up cases here, he shut it down but I think it may have been to late. So thank you New York you've been exporting your filthy Commiecrat voting habits here for a long time (this explains south florida), now you are exporting the Chinese wuhan batsoup lungpoe kungflu also.
Posted by: Oldcrow1 at March 28, 2020 04:48 PM (JCa04) 449
But there are clearly certain cultural/political traditions that make such tracking easier in Asia. I dunno.
Posted by: Margarita DeVill Yes, they publish it, our betters hide it. Still doing the same thing. just my opinion. Nap time. Posted by: Infidel at March 28, 2020 04:48 PM (vF+fs) 450
Comfort appears to be headed toward Starboard Hand Mark 21. Hopefully they made a loop to see if the rudders worked.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:49 PM (obh/i) 451
Heat of the moment?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:49 PM (PUmDY) 452
CDC has refuted that twitter claim
CDC does not have updated guidance scheduled to come out on this topic. See current CDC guidance regarding the use of facemasks: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/steps-when-sick.html Posted by: bigstarxxx at March 28, 2020 04:51 PM (pvJV4) 453
445 It says the USNS Comfort is headed to Norfolk NOB.
Huh? Posted by: IrishEi at March 28, 2020 04:45 PM (sGotD) Now it's headed 7degrees north. Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:52 PM (obh/i) 454
Among other things, Charlie.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 04:52 PM (ZLI7S) 455
Now it's at 43 degrees and going to pass the starboard hand mark off its port side.
Are there any Navy personnel here? Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 04:54 PM (obh/i) 456
re: Massie
I like him well enough, but he's been there for 8 years now and I think its time for a new congressman. He was challenged in the primary, but won easily. Sadly, his primary challenger is an attorney. Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 04:55 PM (s9Eo8) 457
Oh and forgot, border with Alabama has been shut down to everything except commercial traffic because people running from New Orleans down I10.
Posted by: Oldcrow1 at March 28, 2020 04:56 PM (JCa04) 458
That was Some SERIOUS WIND & RAIN!!!! WOW!!!!
Posted by: WuHAN Solo at March 28, 2020 04:58 PM (TLP1L) 459
Et tu, JS?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 04:58 PM (PUmDY) 460
Good news! My county government is not shut down. My property tax bill was delivered on time.
Posted by: t-bird at March 28, 2020 05:00 PM (CMq2e) 461
460 Good news!
My county government is not shut down. My property tax bill was delivered on time. Posted by: t-bird at March 28, 2020 05:00 PM (CMq2e) LOL Posted by: Oldcrow1 at March 28, 2020 05:01 PM (JCa04) 462
Comfort at 118, it's rudder is stuck.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:01 PM (obh/i) 463
What is world population? 650k seems like a very small number.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:01 PM (PUmDY) 464
huh?
Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 05:01 PM (ZLI7S) 465
JS, it seems this is extremely overhyped.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:03 PM (PUmDY) 466
Massee ( hope thats right) was on Rush's show with Ken Matthews Friday, made a good account why he did it and the constitutional reasons for his proposal. We have no idea if this boondoggle goes south who voted for it now.
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 05:03 PM (ZCEU2) 467
at 157 degrees
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:06 PM (obh/i) Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:07 PM (obh/i) 469
We all gotta eat.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:07 PM (PUmDY) 470
We all gotta eat.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie ---- This may be the rationale that Cannibal Bob uses. Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 05:08 PM (xSo9G) 471
It was headed ene at 12.5 knts.
Posted by: Braenyard If you zoom way out, it looks like it's following everybody out to a sea lane maybe 60 miles off shore. Posted by: t-bird at March 28, 2020 05:09 PM (8ruUE) 472
>>JS, it seems this is extremely overhyped.
Doesn't matter. They've stopped every major sporting event, concert, school, work, anything where people gather. Posted by: JackStraw at March 28, 2020 05:10 PM (ZLI7S) 473
Gave all you had, why you want to give more?
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:11 PM (PUmDY) 474
If you zoom way out, it looks like it's following everybody out to a sea lane maybe 60 miles off shore.
Posted by: t-bird ------ 60 mile rule >> 6 foot rule Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 28, 2020 05:11 PM (xSo9G) 475
46Provincial, law enforcement, 48'x12', running north at 35 knots. Good show.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:13 PM (obh/i) 476
It matters in the sense that people are buying into this nonsense.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:15 PM (PUmDY) 477
My daughter is living in Korea right now --- in a city about 2 hrs south of Seoul.
The rules differ from place to place in the country, BTW. Where daughter is --- a very low risk area ---masks are only legally required on public transportation, I think, and for food handlers. But many people, especially the elderly, wear them anyway. They DO quarantine outsiders, though. If you travel from Seoul or certain other (relative) hotspots to a cool-spot, they will make you stay home for a while. (It was two weeks when I last heard.) And they can take your temperature at will --- on the street, in a store, at a park, at school. Anywhere, anytime. Posted by: Margarita DeVille at March 28, 2020 04:34 PM (M/9m0) Sounds like mask are common now. how was it before ? Posted by: runner at March 28, 2020 05:15 PM (zr5Kq) 478
452 CDC has refuted that twitter claim
CDC does not have updated guidance scheduled to come out on this topic. See current CDC guidance regarding the use of facemasks: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/if-you-are-sick/steps-when-sick.html Posted by: bigstarxxx at March 28, 2020 04:51 PM (pvJV4) The date of update on that version is March 25th. Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 05:16 PM (KXX3K) 479
Everyone I know who owns a business, or who merely works at a business, is freaking out. A friend of mine with a very successful company says he has cash reserves -- but only three months worth. After that, the company, which had been growing and profitable, is bankrupt.
Posted by: ace at March 28, 2020 03:41 PM This is a very good point to remember. The Left likes to demonize companies over "too high" profit. But I imagine businesses that have been doing well with profit will have more in cash reserves and will be more able to withstand this hit to the economy. That needs to be hammered home to the anti-business, class warfare people. Also helpful would be to bring up Dave Ramsey's suggestion to build up a 3-6 month "emergency fund" for personal finances. i.e. a savings account where you have enough to cover your expenses for 3-6 months of no income. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 28, 2020 05:17 PM (Do5/p) 480
HUGE! 5 minute test. Game changer.
https://www.theverge.com/2020/3/28/21197944/coronavirus-test-fast-doctors-office-abbott-fda Posted by: Some other guy not that other one at March 28, 2020 05:19 PM (EyFCU) 481
It make a turn to starboard back toward 13 then at hand mark 21 turned back east.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:20 PM (obh/i) 482
I have a business, andI am nowhere near freaking out.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:21 PM (PUmDY) 483
It's at 126 now. A while ago it was at 7 degrees going 12.5 knots.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:21 PM (obh/i) 484
As long as Chappaqua is within the containment zone . . . .
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 28, 2020 05:22 PM (jK8Z7) 485
My 17yo grandson with what is suspected to be chinese bat pneumonia is doing much better per reports from my daughter.
Their quarantine ends Wednesday. Posted by: ghbucky at March 28, 2020 05:24 PM (s9Eo8) 486
Provincial police sounds like an impressionist painting.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:26 PM (PUmDY) 487
At my school one kid won the "Student of the Year" award because (repeat: BECAUSE) he was illiterate and yet was so brave to "keep trying" and not drop out of school. His GPA was 3.9+.
Illiterate. Nothin' left to say. Posted by: zombie at March 28, 2020 03:39 PM (N9G0H) That is a solid participation trophy. Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 28, 2020 05:30 PM (1g7ch) 488
CDC is all over the place--I'm not really criticizing; they've got a lot going on. But trying to find one answer to one question is tough at their site.
Here's one version of their advice about facemasks: If you are sick: You should wear a facemask when you are around other people (e.g., sharing a room or vehicle) and before you enter a healthcare provider's office. If you are not able to wear a facemask (for example, because it causes trouble breathing), then you should do your best to cover your coughs and sneezes, and people who are caring for you should wear a facemask if they enter your room. Learn what to do if you are sick. If you are NOT sick: You do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask). Facemasks may be in short supply and they should be saved for caregivers. https://preview.tinyurl.com/rnohcbc Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 05:31 PM (KXX3K) 489
Reading drudge seems like the world is about to explode.
Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 05:33 PM (ZfRYq) 490
Massee ( hope thats right) was on Rush's show with Ken Matthews Friday,
made a good account why he did it and the constitutional reasons for his proposal. We have no idea if this boondoggle goes south who voted for it now. But it was just "procedural". Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 05:34 PM (mw1Wz) 491
ghbucky - thats good news, kids ( read that as young adults) keep hearing to have a easier time with it.
Posted by: Skip at March 28, 2020 05:34 PM (ZCEU2) 492
Weir is playing slow Dead. It is still awesome.
Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at March 28, 2020 05:34 PM (PUmDY) 493
CDC recommendations on masks seem to be to discourage their use to keep them for medical professionals.
It will be tough when the new public guidance will be to wear them. Posted by: blaster at March 28, 2020 05:35 PM (ZfRYq) 494
CHESS NOOD
Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at March 28, 2020 05:35 PM (ZCEU2) 495
The responses in this thread cover lots of the ins and outs of the public wearing masks:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/t9b6dpy Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 05:41 PM (KXX3K) 496
140 degrees at 10.4 knots
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 05:42 PM (obh/i) 497
So in order to go back to work, we have to wear masks. Okay, time to break out my old Rorschach costume from The Watchmen. I'll be looking forward to my coworkers' looks when they see me in that mask and hat.
In all seriousness, I imagine there will be a lot of people trying to have fun with this, decorating their masks like football players decorate their mouth guards. Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 28, 2020 05:42 PM (Do5/p) 498
Maybe the mask doesn't protect you from the virus.....it keeps you from sticking your finger in your various orifices.
Dim plan is to just handcuff us. So there. Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 28, 2020 05:46 PM (Y6YS5) 499
Massie voted present on Obama's Iran deal.
He was the only R to vote against anti BDS bill. Posted by: Hmmm Don't give a shit. Not talking about the man himself. He may or may not have had good reasons for his prior votes. Conservative Review gave him an A rating while Toady McCarthy and Turtle McConnell gave the Dems handjobs under the table time and time again. I will stand up for anyone who cites Constitutional grounds for legislation. No matter how loud old farts whine for their handouts. Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 05:50 PM (mw1Wz) 500
Because they never suffer.
Posted by: Infidel So very very true. And at this rate they never will. Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 05:53 PM (mw1Wz) 501
61 It never once occurred to them, not once in their lives, that the entire sports world could just be turned off, like flipping a light switch. Now they are desperately racing to try to understand a world they've never even tried to pay attention to before.
Posted by: Tom Servo at March 28, 2020 02:52 PM (trdmm) This. Sports are a First World luxury. The virus is necessitating a lot of much-needed rethinking about what is valuable, and what is not. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 28, 2020 02:55 PM (YqDXo) Allows me to restate one of my patented rants: The fact that we have all this 27 genders nonsense (and Woke-ism in general) is proof that we are a wealthy and prosperous society that can tolerate idiots. If we were poor enough that people typically had to do productive work in order to survive, it would shut many of these parasites. In a perverse way, we should celebrate that Brie Larson and Talcum X thrive, because it means we are thriving too. Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at March 28, 2020 05:58 PM (jK8Z7) 502
Regarding masks, I found this explanation of how different masks work at, of all places, a Quora question answer.
From supposedly a Dr. Amy Chai, MD, Internal Medicine, MS Epidemiology. Posted back in FEB 26, 2020. Respirators and face masks: Everything you never wanted to know. https://bit.ly/33RwJy9 Posted by: Clyde Shelton at March 28, 2020 06:00 PM (Do5/p) 503
Boat is 15 miles south of the mouth of the river.
Posted by: Braenyard at March 28, 2020 06:02 PM (obh/i) 504
Can I jury-rig the mask to fit better?I
am glad you asked. Okay, you didn't ask, and it was a set up. YES you can mess with the mask to make it seal better. You can use gel designed to make snorkeling gear seal, or you can try Vaseline around the edges. I would not suggest double stick tape unless you want to peel your face off at the end of the day. And Vaseline might be kind of greasy. But there are a number of products out there that could enhance the seal of your "respirator." Fantastic resource , Clyde . Thanks! Answered my biggest question ie to "rubber cement or not to rubber cement?" Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 06:04 PM (mw1Wz) 505
When Ozzie bit that bat, he got sick as hell and had to cancel at least one show. Not only did he not make a habit of it in the future, he might be immune to WuHan.
Posted by: Nobody at March 28, 2020 06:07 PM (8zK8n) 506
1 Do it! Do it! Do it! Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 28, 2020 02:40 PM (SgjGX) Can we build a wall around 'em, too? Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 28, 2020 06:11 PM (pNxlR) 507
If Mayor McCheese of Hooterville doesn't shut down the park and turn off the stoplight, the Chinese Lung Aids has already won.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 28, 2020 06:19 PM (mw1Wz) 508
I'm perfectly willing to wear a mask if it means I can get a fucking haircut again.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2020 07:39 PM (zqs/f) 509
508 I'm perfectly willing to wear a mask if it means I can get a fucking haircut again.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 28, 2020 07:39 PM (zqs/f) Good point! Posted by: m at March 28, 2020 09:29 PM (7juvc) 510
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