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More Anecdotal Evidence That Chloroquinine Is Effective; The FDA is to Blame For the Six Weeks of Delay in Coronavirus Testing
It's just an anecdote: His immune system might have been on the verge of beating the drug without chloroquinine. In the same category is this woman's quick recovery.
"I'm happy to report that my progress has continued and I feel practically back to normal," Kim said. A bit later he explained that one of the first questions he was asked when he announced his illness was "What medicines did you take?" After giving a brief disclaimer that his is not a doctor, Kim said he was prescribed a cocktail of drugs including tamiflu, the antibiotic Azithromycin, an inhaler to prevent inflammation, and hydroxychloroquine. "And here’s what I consider to be the secret weapon: hydroxychloroquine," Kim said. He continued, "This is a common anti-malarial drug that has been used with great success in Korea in their fight against the coronavirus. And yes, this is the drug that the president mentioned the other day. It is also the drug that Dr. Anthony Fauci cautioned us about. "He said that evidence that the drug is promising is anecdotal and that is correct. It means it wasn’t studied and is only based on personal accounts. Well add my name to those personal accounts because I am feeling better."
They note the French study which prompted all this optimism consisted of only 20 people given the chrloroquinine/azrithromycin combination. (Another 20, I think, served as a control group who were not given that combination.) That's obviously a small sample, but still, as anecdotes accumulate they do become data. Meanwhile, it turns out that Orange Man Bad was not responsible for the delay in coronavirus testing. The FDA refused to expedite approvals for the test, despite a national health emergency having been declared.
She had been ill since March 8, toughing it out through fatigue, a cough and fevers that brought on vicious chills for five evenings straight. Finally, on March 15, she went to an urgent care center and, on March 16, to an emergency room.... "I couldn’t breathe," she said.
...
To that point, Novins had been a pneumonia patient for three days, treated mainly with antibiotics. But within an hour, a new drug was added to her med list: hydroxychloroquine, a decades-old malaria-turned-autoimmune drug, also called by its brand name Plaquenil... Novins' responded to the treatment. She was better, though surely not well, the next day. "The fever," which was still spiking when she was on other meds, "is now gone, which is fantastic," she said on Saturday March 21, coughing at times but able to speak.
2/ The first coronavirus case in the US and South Korea was detected on January 21.
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
South Korea quickly ramped up widespread testing.
Why did the US fail to do the same?
In short: the FDA dropped the ball. pic.twitter.com/v8dKbGzO7x
4/ HHS Secretary Alex Azar declared a public health emergency on Jan 31.
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
That action initiated a new requirement — labs that wanted to conduct their own coronavirus tests must first obtain an emergency use authorization (EUA) from the FDA. pic.twitter.com/PzjYwbgeVv
6/ And obtaining an EUA was no easy task.
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
FDA required:
- validation by testing at least five known positive samples
- mailing a physical application on CD or thumb drive
- testing the protocol against MERS and SARS viruses pic.twitter.com/3PO1xPvITa
8/ And then they dropped the basket and all the eggs broke.
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
The CDC protocol failed when state and local public health labs tried to validate it.
The exact cause of failure is still under investigation, but a faulty reagent is suspected. pic.twitter.com/2DW9VMHFSX
10/ But this exemption applied only to “laboratories that are certified to perform high-complexity testing consistent with requirements under CLIA.”
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
One researcher estimated 5,000 virology labs in the country met this standard.
Context: US has ~260,000 laboratory entities.
12/ The FDA did the right thing when it expanded the EUA exemption to all labs and manufacturers and devolved regulatory oversight to the states.
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
The Department of Health and Human Services did the right thing when it waived certain provisions of the HIPAA Privacy Rule.
13/ But these actions were six weeks too late.
— Alec 🌐 (@AlecStapp) March 20, 2020
Speed, not perfection, must be the focus of pandemic response.
A distributed approach would be much more resilient to the inevitable mistakes and accidents inherent to crisis management.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:22 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (zlgJP)
Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (SENHs)
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (DF+pC)
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (2GPSc)
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 06:23 PM (d6Ksn)
C-SPAN
https://preview.tinyurl.com/tuurz5j
The White House
https://www.whitehouse.gov/live
Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (M5wRT)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (rBtIz)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (SENHs)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Watching Trump Go Nuclear at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (+dsLj)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (pPNCa)
Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: JT at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (arJlL)
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Just so long as they get their perks.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (W2foY)
Posted by: Pliney at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (nzKWW)
Bureaucracy gotta bureaucrat.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (SENHs)
That's ironic if so, because the relatively few casualties have been in Blue areas.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (ZfRYq)
At the same time, this stuff should be used on every dying patient unless there is a clear conflict with their physiology or other medicine. I mean if they're gonna die, the side effects seem pretty minor in comparison.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: FoodWaterAmmo at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (uwDw2)
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (KxVoZ)
Posted by: Curly Shuffle at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (ch6++)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (K04g6)
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (DF+pC)
How many anecdotes have you put on your balance sheet and what are you payin' for 'em.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (rCwaK)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (HaL55)
That Eugeng Gu guy was front and center.
Can he be charged for pretending to be a doctor since he got kicked out of his residency program?
Posted by: bonhomme at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (i0wNm)
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (SENHs)
Barr has nothing better to do?
Gah, we really are fooked.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (W2foY)
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:27 PM (KxVoZ)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (K04g6
20. Just to be sure.
Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (SENHs)
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (COzlW)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (DF+pC)
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Lord Humongous at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (1g7ch)
Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (ptqGC)
That's my president.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (KxVoZ)
who has the best tie
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (K22Va)
Hafta eat a bit of crow. The other day I scoffed at the idea of folks in Illinois receiving papers to travel to/from work.
Well, my hubby came home with traveling papers, naming him as an essential worker. Unreal!
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (HaL55)
To some extent were being played IMO.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (IYHxL)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:28 PM (KZzsI)
Yup.
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (zr5Kq)
Wonder if that applies to China playing coy about our supply lines.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)
Women have a very long memory when it comes to being wronged, and since we may cross paths again in October, OH HELL NO.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (W2foY)
Heads should roll.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (k4dH2)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (L3Rsz)
Seriously? That's...scary.
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Ez6QX)
You might already have it. According to experts, maybe 50% of people are just not bothered by it at all. Another 48% or so get it but its nothing beyond a nasty cough, fever, congestion, etc. The death rate seems to be >1% and this stuff seems to be effective on it.
I'd call that pretty decent odds. I mean a condom fails at what, 4-6%?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (KZzsI)
Read the first comment to a idea of their plans
This is from Fairfax county site
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (BiNEL)
Yeah, they also wanted to test drug therapies (psilopsybin) for the the terminally ill but required it be tested on the HEALTHY first.
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (DF+pC)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (ufFY8)
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Ha. I see your trick. They wouldn't BE in the situation. Just a rough flu virus that is taking its toll on the elderly, nothing to report on beyond that.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (41rs/)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (L3Rsz)
Everyday and multiple times a day. I am glad that millions of others are praying for he and his family and his MAGA team too.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (ufFY8)
Plus the arrogance of Trump to suggest a drug that has not be sanctioned by the Holiest of Holies in the Bureaucracy. DeepState is not pleased. It must be stopped at all costs.
So Bloomberg runs a Headline ... "Trump Drug Suggested can KILL with just Two Grams"
I mean really, who thinks of a headline like that? The Shadow Knows.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: rammajamma at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (SwWMX)
But enforcement will only be for trumpers.
Posted by: Pliney at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (nzKWW)
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Ez6QX)
Your papers please!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)
Yer a pansy. Breathe.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (gmo/4)
No worries. I'd like to shake your hand for being honest and offer a USB drink in friendship.
Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:31 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Frasier Crane at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (dmYb7)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (dUJdY)
Scares me too Jewells
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)
Excellent point!
And...they have resting on their laurels for so long they have forgotten their real purpose.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Roy at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: AltonJackson
If you are finished, unload & show clear
at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: Pete Seria at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (7ZQe3)
-- Barr
Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (M5wRT)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:29
Great! I got mine last week. However, local authorities want me to get lanyard with laminated ID. Stupid.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (KZzsI)
Tell me about it.
Posted by: Webb Hubbell at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (2N7oZ)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: Redenzo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (E7vND)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (PMDgy)
Our enemies, who are legion.
I really do wonder how much longer we're going to tolerate their bullshit.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (HaL55)
The other day I scoffed at the idea of folks in Illinois receiving papers to travel to/from work.
Well, my hubby came home with traveling papers, naming him as an essential worker. Unreal!
Posted by: lizabth
He'll be ready when they say "Your papers, please."
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (K04g6)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (L3Rsz)
The only reason the FDA is dragging their feet on this is because nobody is going to profit from a drug - with a generic form available - that has been on the market forever.
Posted by: Teresa in Fort Worth, Texas at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (OuZMr)
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (K04g6)
I loved that show!
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (2N7oZ)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (gd9RK)
As we all know, there are absolutely NO successful cases of off-label applications of a drug with an expired patent that can cure anything!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (BiNEL)
I'd call that pretty decent odds. I mean a condom fails at what, 4-6%?
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So, to hedge, I should take the drug and get laid, right?
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: mealy mouth AG at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (/LQkF)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (PMDgy)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)
Of course. If people need an emotional support animal for flying, I can only imagine the supply for them now.
Posted by: Pine Barrens at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (oh+79)
Posted by: jmel at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (OeWgo)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: rammajamma at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (SwWMX)
Sort of like when the left was cheering on insurgents in Iraq. But they totally support the troops. And they totally hope we beat this pandemic.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (sjTfF)
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (Uu+Jp)
I go through periods of that. It's very sickish when it happens and then I'm fine.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (uEbPt)
<1% mortality below 50. 1 fatality in China at 14, none <15 otherwise, worldwide.
I wouldn't believe any data coming out of China. Zero new cases? I call bull. Chinese Telecom has seen a drop is users by over 20 million. Yes, some of these were phones for work, but not all.
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (DF+pC)
Sorry, just frustration talking. That and the fear of economic destruction.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (dLLD6)
Ha!
Posted by: Frasier Crane at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (dmYb7)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (dLLD6)
So she has "I just got fvcked" hair?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (W2foY)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (41rs/)
This Chinese Virus is NOT the Flu.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March
do you know what she had
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:33
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We had this after the tornado in Joplin. It sucks.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:36 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: ghbucky at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (s9Eo8)
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (oVJmc)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3fJcdYFbc0
Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (ExV1e)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (L3Rsz)
Why has nobody done a study beyond 20 people? I thought there were 100 million people with this, couldn't we have found a few people dying in the hospital parking lots and tried it on them?
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (sjTfF)
This is one of the reasons he keeps "winning". He will be proven right again.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (nRk/c)
Oh please..shut down NYC. Seal it off. Just for a time.
I loved the movie "Escape for New York".
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (DF+pC)
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: Kazi at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (0x00j)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)
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" A coup is okay, though. "
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (41rs/)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Zz0t1)
400 total deaths.
400. Or roughly 200/month. In a country of 321 million people.
Aside from NY and perhaps 1-2 other hot spots, this is simply not a panic/lock-down level event.
But that's precisely where we're headed.
I'm done.
Posted by: DocJ at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (DU2N9)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 06:29 PM (aKsyK)
Testing a freaking nasal swab ain't gonna give anyone birth freaking defects.
How about a simple protocol change? You test with your new test, except the first hundred and 1% or 10% of your samples need to be verified using someone elses test?
Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
There is a slow the spread joke in there somewhere.
Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (2cuLk)
Oh please..shut down NYC. Seal it off. Just for a time.
I loved the movie "Escape for New York".
Posted by: jim at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (DF+pC
Could a governor block traffic from NYC? I assume not but...?
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (KxVoZ)
Posted by: Two Weeks From Watching Trump Go Nuclear at March 23, 2020 06:24 PM (+dsLj)
In other news, Mamma Charmin Bear has been euthanized by Fish & Game Dept for mauling shoppers at a nearby Walmart.
Posted by: Meep Floyd at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (TdMsT)
The people who decide elections don't want to hear political division right now.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: DocJ at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (DU2N9)
So Barr is advocating seizure of private property?
And this guy is the AG?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (W2foY)
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (41rs/)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (PMDgy)
Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (2cuLk)
I
wouldn't believe any data coming out of China. Zero new cases? I call
bull. Chinese Telecom has seen a drop is users by over 20 million. Yes,
some of these were phones for work, but not all.
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China wasn't the emphasis there. This was worldwide and China has the only exception to no deaths below 15.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (kOpft)
That's not even the change in a broker's shoe after the past month. And the side effects are rare and almost nonexistent in short-term use.
Just get the damn pills and give the USPS three hundred million ziplocs. Or the Census crew. I can't imagine they're still hiring for door-to-door canvassing...maybe it's a conspiracy.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (8erNz)
You will get it. We will all get it. We are all doomed, and we're all going to die. This is known.
Carry on.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (QgtlX)
And this guy is the AG?
That's what I wondered.. If you have masks do you have to sell them?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (5bxa0)
So she has "I just got fvcked" hair?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:35 PM (W2foY)
I believe the phrase is "lookin like a fresh fucked chicken."
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (nRk/c)
~~~~~
Sadly, no.
Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM (nRk/c)
Sadly no, and Pence is sounding the alarm for wavering to Pelosi.Schumer in my opinion!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (BiNEL)
Which is interesting and kind of undercuts the cw.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (HALdu)
I still need an emotional-support supermodel of the genuine, born-female and lovin' it variety.
My address is still the same.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:25 PM (W2foY)
I've never heard of him ether, but he seems positive and upbeat and is touting how quickly he improved with a short course of choloroqiine (or its cousin) and azithromycin.
That's a good thing.
Posted by: Michael the Texan at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (nvMvs)
5 days with a fever is pretty fucking serious.
This Chinese Virus is NOT the Flu.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March
I've got a fever, and the prescription is more cowbell.
Posted by: Bruce Dickinson at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (M+Lyo)
Posted by: Guy Smiley
Fauci's a pimp. he coulda never outfought C Everett Koop
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (5bxa0)
Why has nobody done a study beyond 20 people? I thought there were 100 million people with this, couldn't we have found a few people dying in the hospital parking lots and tried it on them?
_____________________
Sorry, but you don't have the correct credentials to perform such a study!
Fill out these 857 government forms requesting permission, and we'll get back to you in a month or so!
Posted by: The FDA at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (k4dH2)
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (Zz0t1)
Well...
Posted by: Tuskegee Study at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (2N7oZ)
Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (K22Va)
In other news, Mamma Charmin Bear has been euthanized by Fish & Game Dept for mauling shoppers at a nearby Walmart.
Posted by: Meep Floyd at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (8B6Ng)
That whole Charmin bear family needs to be made into hearth rugs.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (TdMsT)
Padlock NYC and reopen the rest of the country.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (W2foY)
Trust us, it's all legal!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (ATCV4)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)
Not enough Democrat graft and grift yet.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Corona-kun at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (A+VfD)
Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (2GPSc)
Has it occurred to any of you the reason President Trump is treading softly on the Democrats' obstinance is because Pelosi and Schemer have the president (and the People) by the balls?
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (PMDgy)
Someone here earlier said they knew someone that tested positive, the ER gave them hydroxycholorquine, and said Pelosi (?) was an idiot.
43 deaths today in NY, 132 in USA today alone. 545 total. Can we see how many anecdotally received the hydroxycholorquine treatment mix? Who has gotten it and at what stage ... we have enough outcomes to take a look and get some ideas, without the sluggards at FDA looking down their nose at us.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (KxVoZ)
I have read people are getting it now if they are diagnosed.
Posted by: blaster at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ZfRYq)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (uEbPt)
Someone said 0ver 500..Who to believe?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (5bxa0)
Out of 350 million, is it relevant either way?
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (W2foY)
-- Barr
Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:32 PM (M5wRT)
As I said up-thread, husband discovered four N95 masks in his warehouse today, and he's donating them to his doc's medical practice.
The little devil on my shoulder said, "But....what about us?" And the angel kicked its ass.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (8erNz)
~~~~~
They were supposed to start canvassing in April, but we haven't even done the backgound checks on 25% of the selectees. We're shut down too.
Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (sGotD)
>>>>She looks like she just got laid.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo
There is a slow the spread joke in there somewhere.
Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 06:39 PM (2cuLk)
That's not all that's in there.
Posted by: The Paolo at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ufFY8)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (5bxa0)
So, if we're smarter than the f*cking government, we're supposed to relinquish our stuff to the same people that couldn't figure out after over a decade maybe some more masks were a good idea?
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (8B6Ng)
Yesterday morning at my suburban Wal-Mart they had to call the police when someone pulled a gun out because we didnt open promptly at 7am.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (K04g6)
Heads should roll
====
Use them as controls in a rabies study.
Waste not, want not.
Posted by: Vlad the impaler, whittling away like mad at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (d6mdH)
Fauci probably carries a blade. Koop was the oatmeal guy.
My money's on the wop.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (QgtlX)
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (pPNCa)
Pelosi/Soros demorats have already made it clear, they are NOT going to waste this opportunity to attack America/Americans/Trump, utilizing this CRISIS.
Posted by: ron n. at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (om5HK)
From 'this is a terrible thing that's gonna get worse' to 'most people will have no symptoms or mild ones'.
That was quite the see-saw ride over the past two weeks.
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (PMDgy)
Nah. They will begin taking heat and their tune will change.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (gd9RK)
This sounds like the CO2 scrubber incompatibly issue with Apollo 13
Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (gmo/4)
and Azithromicin on hand, or have recently acquired it. Would be
interesting.
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And their recent stock purchases.
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (kOpft)
Not directly. Partisanship and political games decried by Trump.
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)
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Your phoney balony job isn't dependent that regulations and protocols are properly followed.
Posted by: MAGA at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (Bhh6t)
I believe now, at this point, we have tested more people than South Korea. ~270k tests just last week.
I'm not entirely sure how much better off we'd be at this point with testing... *maybe* if every traveler coming home from Europe had been administered the test... but that seems a tall order with the amount of travelers arriving back every day.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (zqs/f)
The chloroquinones?
There have been three on the current mess, Korea, China, and France. The Chinese study used higher doses, the French study used hydroxychloroquinone (fewer side effects) and an ER/chicken antibiotic and got STUNNINGLY GOOD results if they can be replicated on larger scale.
The main thing is that these drugs have almost no adverse side effects, the worst thing is vision problems that resolve once you're off the drug. And they're all, including the chicken antibiotic, cheap.
There's some consideration that the virus will mutate itself around the immediate cure, and that's true, but at this point a year probably gets us to a virus.
I'm optimistic.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:42 PM (VNfwt)
In case of California fires.
Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (M5wRT)
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (sjTfF)
Yesterday morning at my suburban Wal-Mart they had to call the police when someone pulled a gun out because we didnt open promptly at 7am.
Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (K04g6)
Yep. This has been dangerously ramped up. The hysterics out there don't need much of a nudge in any circumstances.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (dUJdY)
Its approved for emergency or use for patients who are critically ill and approve it. as I understand it. The FDA is holding back use of it for patients who are not in as dire a situation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)
Are you trolling us? This thing is relatively mild considering its ability to spread, and one of the oldest, cheapest meds we have can be used to mitigate it.
Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)
ttps://tinyurl.com/udgucg9
Posted by: ShainS at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (sC74M)
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (dUJdY)
LOL... Me too
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (lwiT4)
Please don't be afraid. If you have certain pre-existing conditions or are of a certain age, you should be careful. But please do not let fear engulf you. This is not cancer. It is NOT an immediate death sentence.
Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (ZCiJZ)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (L3Rsz)
Washington was the first breakout, and its new cases aren't increasing exponentially now, though there is noise. Maybe its ready to peak and slow soon, fingers crossed.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (Bwqq4)
I'm going to log this in the memory bank, for 2024.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (EL4ni)
An oximeter (which measures your O2 levels) is about $25. It's easy to use and will give you peace of mind.
Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (Lqy/e)
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (G2z01)
I think with folks like him, who are used to controlling everything, our current circumstances make him short-circuit.
Posted by: Test for Echo at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (onMzM)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: 13times at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (K3B2k)
D.E.E.P-S.T.A.T.E.
C.O.M.M.I.E.
C.O.L.L.A.B.O.R.A.T.O.R.S.
Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (oUnSf)
*nodding and winking*
--Christine Pelosi
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (KZzsI)
Damn.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (KxVoZ)
I'm optimistic.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (8erNz)
Vaccine
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:44 PM (QgtlX)
As Ladyl says, I can't stop laughing.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (W2foY)
Democrats, perhaps?
Yea, they own the "Pelosi Pandemic."
Posted by: Martini Farmer semper liberi montani at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (3H9h1)
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (sjTfF)
Long term and at high dosage.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:43 PM (ptqGC)
If I find my N95's (just moved), I'll happily donate them. But I'm keeping my one N100, and used it today. If (heaven forbid) something happens to my mother, I'm the only person that can help her. Me being sick would not be a good thing. Except in the DNC's America.
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Serious Cat
______________
I agree
I think it's being obsessed over as something to blame Trump because they didn't have enough.
if you have the symptoms of corona, quarantine yourself. Even if you don't have it, I thought everyone was in quarantine.
The idea that lack of tests is causing this spread just doesn't make a lot of sense to me. At least not a mass scale.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (sjTfF)
I just peeked. 545 total deaths USA as of now at Worldometer Coronavirus site.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (Bwqq4)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 06:30 PM (Uu+Jp)
I was at Boston Fire hazmat facility when new essential list came in.Didn't even look at it. Just hightailed my ass to Petco.
Posted by: Pelosi's Used Kleenex at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (a1s18)
it would be a huge win for Trump if it worked, and Dems/MSM already smeared him for suggesting a Untested Drug might work. So imo, yes they are indeed that Vile, to want to thwart success that might show Trump was right again. To them it is warfare, and every Trump win is a loss for them ... even if people die in the process of stopping Trump.
But I'd sure like to see outcomes and details, since they must have a lot of anecdotal. Any drug result will be anecdotal ... there is no age old protocol for a brand new novel virus. So decision must be made without the Ancients at FDA stroking chins and conjuring up spirits.
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (Cus5s)
...but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 06:37 PM
not yet, he'll wait until progda asks a related question, then he'll be "well, since you brought it up..."
Posted by: AltonJackson
If you are finished, unload & show clear
at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (DUIap)
I'm going to log this in the memory bank, for 2024.
Agreed.
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (pPNCa)
Posted by: azalea city at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (WX+x0)
Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (LxTcq)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (lwiT4)
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Listen to the Church Pirate, for she probably knows of which she speaks.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (WEBkv)
is effective in this application. Am I missing something?
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)
Keep that logic shit off this blog.
Yes...there are probably theoretical issues that are possible but highly unlikely. And because this overreaction is now jeopardizing the largest economy in the world it might behoove them to be just a bit smarter about it.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (COzlW)
Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (gmo/4)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (L3Rsz)
Washington was the first breakout, and its new cases aren't increasing exponentially now, though there is noise. Maybe its ready to peak and slow soon, fingers crossed.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (Bwqq4)
Inslee must be pissed.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (W2foY)
Its not impossible that it interacts oddly with this particular virus in some people, that's what they are worried about. There hasn't been enough testing yet to see that kind of thing. There's been some done that demonstrates effectiveness, but not a large, wide-spread clinical test.
The problem is that we don't have time to do that kind of testing and sooner or later you gotta work the odds.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (KZzsI)
Mike Pence:
I can't go with you either, Fauci.
Fauci :
[to Pence]
Tell the president it was only business. I always liked him.
Pence :
He understands that.
Barr:
[removing Fauci's microphone]
Excuse me, Fauci.
Fauci :
Can you get me off the hook, Mike? For old times' sake?
Pence :
[shakes his head]
Can't do it, Fauci.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (dmy3W)
Are you trolling us? This thing is relatively mild considering its ability to spread, and one of the oldest, cheapest meds we have can be used to mitigate it.
Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve
Are you a fucking expert? Where's your evidence that it is mild?
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (PMDgy)
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And their recent stock purchases.
Then they get a little treatment and become gutterquine...
Oh wait, that's eliminationist rhetoric.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (8erNz)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (KxVoZ)
I just peeked. 545 total deaths USA as of now at Worldometer Coronavirus site.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:48 PM (Bwqq4)
The fact that that meter even exists says so much about the world we live in. Discouraging.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (90T4r)
When it *does* get there, that "sick map" is gonna light up like a pachinko machine.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (QgtlX)
Always a good idea to have a wingman with a good, harsh Squint.
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (G2z01)
You will get it. We will all get it. We are all doomed, and we're all going to die. This is known.
Carry on.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (QgtlX)
Praise Zod.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:38 PM (dUJdY)
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May I suggest a Gin and Tonic, or a Vodka Tonic, heavy on the tonic water to chase down a supplement of Zinc, Vitamins B C and D?
Be a fashion trendsetter, and start wearing a scarf or a bandanna wrapped over your nose and mouth. Take a couple to work, and put the used ones in a separate plastic bag for laundering in hot water every day.
Relax, and make sure you take care of your hands too. If you wear latex or nitrile gloves, you can wash the gloves instead. I do that when cooking when I am chopping raw vegetables and working with meats. I wash the gloves multiple times as I switch between the veggies and meat.
Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Joe Biden at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (sWM8x)
D.E.E.P-S.T.A.T.E.
C.O.M.M.I.E.
C.O.L.L.A.B.O.R.A.T.O.R.S.
Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:47 PM (oUnSf)
Hope and pray in 2021 there's a major re-thinking by POTUS of all the alphabet agencies. They're useless/evil behemoths sucking the life blood out of the country.Trump could grab people off the street at random and come up with a better solution.
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Wait what? at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (LSEG1)
Oh, I haven't asked about that in a while. Are you still a pirate, grammie? How are the orbs?
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (gd9RK)
days ago that Fauci is going to get a couple of days of me time. He'll
be back.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:45 PM (gd9RK)
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Um, what are *you* doing with him?
Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (kOpft)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Anachronda at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (kf5Ci)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (iTXRQ)
Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)
NOBODY responds to Jewells this way.
Get lost.
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (TdMsT)
Get a friggin' grip. My 75 yo OCD panic-prone former-nurse mother is calmer than you - and she's in the main target age for fatalities for this and can't wait for this over-reaction to end.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:46 PM (w+Ped)
What the FCUK is wrong with you? Arrogant asshole.
Posted by: Kazi at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (0x00j)
It is being rationed because hospitals are worried about supply
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (LWu6U)
when someone pulled a gun out because we didnt open promptly at 7am.
Won't go near any of these places. Wal-Mart is beating Amazon around here for TP delivery. All Amazon has is Chinese crap. Not the time to be wiping your butt with Chinese TP.
Posted by: dartist at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (K22Va)
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (G2z01)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (WEBkv)
I was on it years and years for Lupus and with careful monitoring I had only very slight changes to my vision.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:49 PM (PMDgy)
I am a fucking expert. Where is your evidence this level of panic is justified?
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (w+Ped)
Kill yourself. Do it now.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (QgtlX)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (uEbPt)
it's almost as if government is inefficient in the face of a crisis.
and Dr. Fucktard is a two faced bastard: H1N1 was no big deal, but Chinese Lung Aids? "OMFG, we're all gonna die! shut down everything, everywhere, forever!"
F him, with a tanker's bar, sideways, then shove coils of concertina wire in, to stop the bleeding.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (vwf8z)
but when it comes to actors and such
Smollett is not alone in lying to up one's profile
Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (rpxSz)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March
didn't you go off for a cruise after wuhanwhatever started here?
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (KxVoZ)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: NeverNeverTrumper at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (0jZvB)
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (QgtlX)
Pay your rate for the masks that smart people accumulated for you.
I would not be surprised that what you pay for each one in normal circumstances is above what you consider gouging today.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (41rs/)
If Trump is defeated in November look for medals and lots of blow for the FDA traitors....who will be partying with Strok , McCabe and many other fellow traitor travelers.
Posted by: Voter theater. at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (xXx5y)
But there's no need to ration the stuff, floods of that stuff are being donated, gigantic dumptrucks full.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (lwiT4)
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Ah, I thought perhaps it was a drug you took during your bout of Bell's Palsey, was it?
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Grannymimi at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (u5LFV)
Decimation.
No Bill in 3 days? Round up everyone and draw straws. Every tenth straw is short. EVERYBODY draws a straw. Short straw? Dead. A bonus would be forcing long straw Congresscritters to carry out the sentences.
The same should be done to the CDC and FDA leaders.
Want action in a bureaucracy? Threaten death.
Uh, no. I am not heartless. But if this is a crisis, obstructionist behavior deserves the ancient remedy.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (e1mEI)
Fuck off.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March
In fairness, you did dare somebody to do what he did.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:51 PM (HALdu)
In fairness, yankee fifth, you're a shit-stirrer. Knock it off.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (ptqGC)
Common sense approach from an MD.
A letter to DJT. Hope he takes the advice.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: JAS at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (Lg/Uq)
It's been used for years.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (oVJmc)
Was preoccupied, but did PDT blast pelosi and the dems yet?
Posted by: Nevergiveup
~~~~~
Sadly, no.
Posted by: IrishEi
There'll be time enough for blastin' when the dealin's done.
Posted by: The Gambler at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (aKsyK)
-Sooth
There seems to be general agreement among the medfags that 80% of cases are mild and never progress beyond mild. Many people have already had it and never knew.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (Bwqq4)
I'm scared...Husband tells me to chill because if I sneeze I say . I have it... LOL... I'm not the chilling kind
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (dUJdY)
Yo Jewells! You obviously don't need any White Knighting!!!
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March
Hey, I am just here for the fun, not to hawk junk.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)
That means if the test is Neg., there is a 30% chance that you are infected.
It has a purpose, but it is not a cure. These countries that are having success are doing a lot of testing but not to find all the sick people, but instead to reduce the number of asymptomatic carriers out there in the wild and to know how extreme the lockdowns need to be.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (lwiT4)
Sub-Saharan Africa seems largely untouched by this pandemic.
When it *does* get there, that "sick map" is gonna light up like a pachinko machine.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:50 PM
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How will they know that anything is abnormal?
Seriously, a mild fever is fairly common there. Doesn't it take a couple of weeks for an Ebola outbreak to be discovered? Even though Ebola causes your body to bleed from every orifice?
Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: JAS at March 23, 2020 06:56 PM (2BZBZ)
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 06:56 PM (Bwqq4)
Social distancing is the tool, testing is only the way to monitor it.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:56 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March
In fairness, if somebody does not want something commented upon do not dare somebody to do so.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 06:53 PM (dUJdY)
Hugs, hon. Things are extremely stressed right now.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (ptqGC)
He is, but he's a short little shit. Alexthechick probably has the reach advantage on him.
Though not with her arms.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (gd9RK)
Sure, but not with this stuff. Medicines interact chemically, and there's not enough data on how exactly it interacts with this virus. It appears to be very beneficial but are there nasty side effects we haven't seen yet? That's their fear. I think its pretty groundless -- or if not groundless, than excessive, given the circumstances -- but that's what they base their restraint upon.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor
_____________________
I thought the same about toilet paper.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (sjTfF)
Kill yourself. Do it now.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (QgtlX)
Already dead. Anything else?
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (w+Ped)
Kill yourself. Do it now.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (QgtlX)
Should I be upset that for once I completely agree with Zod?
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (zr5Kq)
Fauci's wiry.
It's the wiry ones that will surprise you. Posted by: East Bay Jay at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (Lg/Uq)
@RealDonaldTrump:
"Good progress with chloro meds! Lots of hard work by FDA, CDC, and local authorities. Don't listen to this sneaky little goombah fuck standing behind me. Economy is going to rocket! Stay Safe!"
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (QgtlX)
Good.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (COzlW)
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)
You can fuck right the fuck off, asshole.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: BifBewalski at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (VcFUs)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (L3Rsz)
Christ Almighty, it's not just how "mild" it is or just a relatively few will die from it. It's also the highly contagious aspect, and its "hearty" characteristics.
My evidence? Look at the data. That's my evidence.
The Chinese Virus is doing exactly what they said it was going to do, get much worse before it gets better.
Deny reality all you want, this virus is spreading rapidly, hence the "containment" precautions.
Is this response justified? Goddam right it is.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (PMDgy)
Common sense approach from an MD.
A letter to DJT. Hope he takes the advice.
_________________
The guy is a scientist, not sure about he MD. I got the link from a cousin.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (lwiT4)
grammie, underlying conditions are often, well, underlying. Don't yell at me, okay?
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March
try harder
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (HALdu)
You should be chastened that you don't agree more often. In fact, every time.
Kneel.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (QgtlX)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (uEbPt)
Pandemics bring out the best in people.
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Posted by: tubal
Jewells won the Super Bowl for Mrs Blutarski. So there.
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (oUnSf)
be interesting to see what happens then
also this one reporter wants to pin Rand's illness on Trump
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (HALdu)
You're a barrel of laughs.
Posted by: Kazi at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (0x00j)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 06:54 PM (WEBkv)
No, not for that - for Lupus. IIRC I took it for about ten years, and lived to tell the tale.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Thorvald at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (DMUuz)
I don't know if its the test or the virus, but they keep getting really weird results like positive, then tested again negative, then later positive again.
But the reason for the push on testing is to ramp up numbers, to frighten people and drive policy. More positives = more panic, even if the death numbers don't go up or are even going down.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (KZzsI)
We need masks because they stop asymptomatic people from spreading the disease even if they don't know they are sick.
That is what is working in Japan, which has not had a shutdown.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (LWu6U)
In the severe cases, it is being used. One data set that will be seen soon is, are those who take the drugs for their other conditions protected from corona? Do they have less severe disease, or no disease at all?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (oUnSf)
Posted by: ptschett at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (zB+vL)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (5bxa0)
You can fuck right the fuck off, asshole.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy
Seconded.
I'm in no mood argumentative Dildos, here.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (PMDgy)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Lena Dunham at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 06:57 PM (zr5Kq)
But toilet seats, on the other hand....
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Zz0t1)
If you're stressing, reach out. Seriously.
My 29 odometer has rolled over twice now, and this is all new and different.
There's a hotline to call, 1-800-985-5990
or
You can text TALKWITHUS at 66746
Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (8B6Ng)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (L3Rsz)
https://tinyurl.com/vlgv95d
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (QgtlX)
Cases are concentrated around the planet along a band from 30-50 degree latitude and a humidity level of 44-77%.
There is much discussion about why that may be.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Bwqq4)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (90T4r)
I would never yell at you, tubal. But the guy does seem very vigorous and extremely active. Or did, till he caught the crud. I hope he'll come out of it okay.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (lwiT4)
Seriously?
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 06:59 PM (5bxa0)
No what they're trying to do is say there's not enough tests and it's Trump's fault.
Everything has something behind it. They can't just ask a question.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (uEbPt)
I guess I'm supposed to be the brave one. Blech.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (PMDgy)
She's an amazing woman.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Christopher
Yes.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (LWu6U)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (lwiT4)
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Gotcha.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (WEBkv)
Cases are concentrated around the planet along a band from 30-50 degree latitude and a humidity level of 44-77%.
There is much discussion about why that may be.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (Bwqq4)
They also take Malaria drugs
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dKiJG)
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dLLD6)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 06:55 PM (uEbPt)
She literally asked for it.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: Hans Gruber in 2020 at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (nu45M)
Seriously?? Jesus H.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dUJdY)
no
Posted by: m at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (M5wRT)
Christ Almighty, it's not just how "mild" it is or just a relatively few will die from it. It's also the highly contagious aspect, and its "hearty" characteristics.
My evidence? Look at the data. That's my evidence.
The Chinese Virus is doing exactly what they said it was going to do, get much worse before it gets better.
Deny reality all you want, this virus is spreading rapidly, hence the "containment" precautions.
Is this response justified? Goddam right it is.
Posted by: Soothsayer
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If it barely kills, what does it matter that it's highly contagious? Unless "hearty" characteristics means permanent damage of some sort.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (G51Gf)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (C1SGV)
Posted by: Honest sam the Mask Man at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Zombie Rodney King, crackhead floating facedownin da pool at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (dUJdY)
It is being rationed because hospitals are worried about supply
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 06:52 PM (LWu6U)
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yup: up to each MD to write or not write for it. the FDA just made it a little less scary for candy ass doctors who worry about pointless shit.
and
anti-microbial stewardship is a thing: you don't give everyone who *might* have a disease all the drugs you have available to treat it, just the ones who need it most.
that way you don't grow resistant pathogens and you don't waste resources.
if your symptoms are mild, you're likely NOT going to get the cocktail. if you start to get rocky, that's another story.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (vwf8z)
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: Ralphie at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Orson at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (q7a4P)
Posted by: Christopher
Yes.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (LWu6U) "
This.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (zlgJP)
When you're hiring via hard line rules containing rainbows and unicorn people, this is what you're going to get.
Diversity over merit is NOT a stronger America.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (vEIlU)
https://tinyurl.com/vfll6jd
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (oVJmc)
Lock-down in the sense of encouraging them to stay home, support them, etc.
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #CancelChina at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 06:54
Yankee fifth is not so. Huh.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (WEBkv)
Stress will do some weird shit to your health.
Take 10 breaths and relax.
.
.
.
.
.
There.
Now go get me a beer.
Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (POXG+)
I wonder what else that sickle-cell offers an "immunity" for?
ISTR that a good dose of malaria will stop a cancer's growth, too.
There ought to be some research literature on these interactions.
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (8IOEj)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)
Rand Paul was a candidate because the loss of part of his lung... Thanks to a Dem hater like you,the reporter
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:02 PM (dUJdY)
God is still in charge, Jewells.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: azalea city at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (WX+x0)
Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (COzlW)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (w+Ped)
I took your orignal post as a lighthearted joke. I have no idea if I was right.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (87EdW)
Posted by: banana Dream at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (Uu+Jp)
His precious NYT keeps telling him Trump isn't doing a thing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (ptqGC)
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)
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lost lung capacity from the rib damage and resultant pneumonia? check.
highly exposed public position with identified sources of infection? check.
he's exactly the sort of person who should be screened first.
F everyone who w*rks in the #MFM. they are all scum.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (vwf8z)
Posted by: AltonJackson
If you are finished, unload & show clear
at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (DUIap)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (dKiJG)
Yes, that's been mentioned too. There is no consensus about the locale thing though.
It's the increasingly likely 8 week max period from takeoff to burn out that has some hopeful, including me.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (Bwqq4)
Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (Ig7tA)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (w+Ped)
I took your orignal post as a lighthearted joke. I have no idea if I was right.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (uEbPt)
It was. Then she went to 11.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: A dude in MI at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (/6GbT)
I guess eight years of Obama gave them that idea.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (QxTuE)
Posted by: getting the banned back into the kitchen at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (HYLD4)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (TdMsT)
hello !
Posted by: REDACTED at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (rpxSz)
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (l3+k2)
and they shut it down
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (vEIlU)
Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (sGotD)
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: FDA at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (L2ZTs)
Common sense approach from an MD.
A letter to DJT. Hope he takes the advice.
_________________
The guy is a scientist, not sure about he MD. I got the link from a cousin.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (DB16e)
Whenever someone who is not a doctor says "They don't teach this in medical school" or "This is something that doctors don't understand" 10 times out of 10, whatever they are saying is pseudoscientific bullshit.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (90T4r)
I would never yell at you, tubal. But the guy does seem very vigorous and extremely active. Or did, till he caught the crud. I hope he'll come out of it okay.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:00 PM (lwiT4)
Thanks, grammie. Poor guy. Prayers for him.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (2cuLk)
ALton!!!! Yes!!! omg.. gonna bring my favorite shirt to the MoMe!!! Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (dUJdY)
You'll want to be careful. I imagine there'll be a fair amount of face-licking at the MoMe.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (QgtlX)
unless I'm reading him wrong
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (C1SGV)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (w+Ped)
Meanwhile we have new information. She said she's having a rough day. Can we please ease off the gas?
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (/ZYFC)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:07 PM (KZzsI)
Agree, Christoper. I was coughing up a lung at the end of the year. Never had that before. Lasted about 2 or 3 weeks. Went away, finally, with no treatment.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (Ig7tA)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (lwiT4)
That was me at our local Albertsons. I could not believe what I was seeing. Horrible.
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: f'd at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (Tnijr)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (TdMsT)
*blows raspberry*
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (w+Ped)
Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 07:04 PM (TdMsT)
There always has been. There always will be. If you issue a challenge around here and some accepts it, why get mad?
Posted by: U mad bro? at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (/LQkF)
Posted by: blank at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (B+t5k)
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (LWu6U)
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Forecast calls for possible record highs here later this week--may hit 90 degrees on Thursday. A heat wave across the country would surely be welcome right about now.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: BluesFish at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (WQZ1O)
unless I'm reading him wrong
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)
exactly how I read it too
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (vEIlU)
this is where all the wine moms come to cuss Posted by: blank at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (B+t5k)
Her wine-box brings all the boys to the yard...
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (QgtlX)
Posted by: lizabth at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (L3Rsz)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: grammie winger
That was me at our local Albertsons. I could not believe what I was seeing. Horrible.
Posted by: IC
The grocery sections look like day 6 of an 8 day going out of business sale.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Share my bat sampler?
Posted by: Chunk Hunger at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (uM6CE)
They're quoting a return-to-school date of May 3 at this time.
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (L2ZTs)
China has one idea I do like, though. Giving bad people a Bleach Bath.
Apparently, there are lots of idiots still "partying" in California and Florida.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (PMDgy)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (dUJdY)
This suggests that a lot of the morbidity/mortality is from opportunistic bacterial infections consequent upon lung damage from the virus.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (YqDXo)
What really matters about Yellow Bat Fever: how many people are going to have be hospitalized at any given vs how many hospital beds are available. And of that subset, how many are going to need ICU and ventilators to keep them alive vs the supply of those.
That's the only stat that matters.
NYC has turned out to be the first hotspot for this. It's gonna be an early test compared to the rest of the country. We'll know in about two weeks how bad or not this going to be.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (QxTuE)
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (uEbPt)
________________________
He's an MIT Phd guy. I just got the link from my cousin. It's a 2 minute read
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed
And they are usually pissed off that they aren't a MD.
Posted by: Aviator at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (2cuLk)
Its just worth considering that especially these days its worth going the extra mile to be compassionate and sympathetic instead of the usual Horde pile-on. You don't always have to be busting balls.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (KZzsI)
to say in response to Not So" that Jewell's jewelry is beautiful ,and she is not hawking junk Some lovely person on here was kind enough to send me earrings and a bracelet which she mde
with a little cross and I feel good whenever I wear them. Jewell also sent a charm with a dove which I gave to friend who was having hard time. It is wonderful to have a gift and talent
that brings joy to people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (WI7YS)
Posted by: Christopher
Yes.
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (LWu6U) "
This.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 07:03 PM (zlgJP)
At first we had the case where Death numbers looked really bad because they were ONLY able to test people who were really sick.
So you suddenly have it in everyone's brain that this has like a 10% death rate, when in actuality its much much lower.
But now we are testing people who have less symptoms but are not really in danger of dying so we have more total cases.
but that high death rate number is still in peoples heads, thus the panic.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (NgKpN)
I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (LWu6U)
unless I'm reading him wrong
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)
exactly how I read it too
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:10 PM (vEIlU)
Please, Lord.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (WEBkv)
If you issue a challenge around here and some accepts it, why get mad?
What "challenge?"
There was no "challenge" you fucking child.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (PMDgy)
Posted by: IrishEi at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (sGotD)
They're bouncing off the walls and landing on their heads in freeper-land.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (Bwqq4)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM
I wish I had some new tack.
Posted by: zombie Mr. Ed at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (DMUuz)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (gd9RK)
Trump says let the states have responsibility over the education of its children.
Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (oUnSf)
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 06:58 PM (Zz0t1)
Share my bat sampler?
Posted by: Chunk Hunger
Scored some Maruchan Ramen Bat Flavor.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (2GjZZ)
He's a politician, not a doctor.
Posted by: ghbucky at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (s9Eo8)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (87EdW)
with a little cross and I feel good whenever I wear them. Jewell also sent a charm with a dove which I gave to friend who was having hard time. It is wonderful to have a gift and talent
that brings joy to people.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March
yeah, kind of hard to see the disitinction between not doing gofundme and doing direct marketing.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (HALdu)
I will pray for you, Jewell that I would like to
to say in response to Not So" that Jewell's jewelry is beautiful
,and she is not hawking junk Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (WI7YS)
She's apparently not licking face, either.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (QgtlX)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)
Which is why so many of them are demanding a nationwide lockdown. Abject cowards.
Posted by: Hans Gruber in 2020 at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (nu45M)
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out a lot of people give a damn! at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (w2QL7)
My press conference paraphrase.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (mw1Wz)
unless I'm reading him wrong
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (iTXRQ)
exactly how I read it too"
It's exactly what he is doing. The markets will continue to crash until they know things are going to end whenever that is. Also, small businesses may weather a bit longer if they know there is a date certain.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (C1SGV)
Posted by: Basement Cat at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (pPNCa)
Where's that super-smart guy who wanted to prosecute Trump for murder?
Maybe he should look at the CDC... not to mention that State Dep't fool who said sure, let's bring a plane full of citizens back together with some who we *know* have this new bug...
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (0ReGO)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (wCLLY)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (L2ZTs)
My idiot governor (Coonman-VA) has canceled school for the rest of the year
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (BiNEL)
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They know they can because the only time they reported on it was the one 10 second spot at 5:17am and/or on page 4B under the article about the new FDA rules regarding importation of elderberry juice.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (41rs/)
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (Uu+Jp)
Rand Paul is gonna replace respirators, face masks and tests as their shiny new object
Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (5bxa0)
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (cF8AT)
I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen
_______________
Japan might be the cleanest country on Earth, that might play a role in it.
Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.
Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (sjTfF)
Yeah most of the panic (even in otherwise educated, intelligent people who should know better) is being driven by early information. Early estimates on infection rate, early ideas on how long the virus survived on a surface, early projections on spreading, etc.
All of it was wrong and sometimes excessively so. All of it has driven the response since then without any moderation or change based on changing data.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (POXG+)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (90T4r)
Yup, one of the interesting reports about Italy was that even before the Coronas hit, their Hospital system was already at the breaking point.
This just pushed it way over the edge.
Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (NgKpN)
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (Dhht7)
Cornbread.
Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (POXG+)
Always. Avec beans.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (90T4r)
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (PMDgy)
Interesting way to de-escalate there. Have you copyrighted that method?
Posted by: Mad is as mad does. at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (/LQkF)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (puu6v)
Which is why so many of them are demanding a nationwide lockdown. Abject cowards."
Cuomo is an asshole but cunning, too. He agreed that things will have to change. Donors and his supporters are putting the pressure on.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (puu6v)
I was listening to some respiratory doc talking about this last night. Z-pack has some clinically significant anti-inflammatory properties that are not well understood in addition to the antibiotic properties. The x-quinines, which are used for RA and other autoimmune conditions have anti-inflammtory and immune modulation effects.
He speculates that the ones that get the sickest may have be having an immune overreaction in the lungs causing the damage and all that, and the above properties of those drugs may explain their effectiveness.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (f1Vqw)
I'm thinking May could be the easing back.
As long as people aren't stupid, and as long as China doesn't try to target us again.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (vEIlU)
Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 07:11 PM (L2ZTs)
My idiot governor (Coonman-VA) has canceled school for the rest of the year
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (BiNEL)
But he CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARES.
He's totes not trying to bankrupt the entire state.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (0ReGO)
Roundabout mid-summer his parents-who-love-their-kids-but-are-sick-of-them-hanging-around-all-day constituency is gonna be waaaay in his ear about this latest idiocy.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (QgtlX)
Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 23, 2020 07:14 PM (wCLLY)
To be fair, They have a proud reputation and tradition to uphold!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (vEIlU)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (0ReGO
Nah, a principled man like that would never do such a thing!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (vwf8z)
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (Dhht7)
Ours is still at the 'you get one pack of 8 rolls of TP, one loaf of bread, one carton of eggs and one bag of rice'. Depressing.
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (41rs/)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (BiNEL)
LOL
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (uEbPt)
"Z-Pak"
There's what, 20,000 people who have it, and maybe 20% are really sick
The USA has enough on the shelves already.
Democrats are using this crisis now to dump Trump.
Nancy Pelosi showed her hand in the last 24 hours.
Country is opening back up after the 15 days.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (EL4ni)
For example, Washington with be out of this before states that didn't have any known cases at first.
Turn the states back on as they are able to do so.
Posted by: Meremortal at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (Bwqq4)
I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen
Taiwan and Singapore doing quite well and I don't think either shut down their schools.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (nu45M)
if you're going to stir shit and make attacks do it from a long recognized nic, and ....
if you're getting shit stirred by an anon who doesn't have a long recognized nic just ignore it.
Please be seated.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (gd9RK)
Blunt force initially to try and mitigate and moving toward more targeted mitigation.
Wall street is important because people need to be able to pay bills and put food on the table.
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (WEBkv)
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (KZzsI)
Hmmm. Why the hell not?
Is not their core principle that it is not a matter of if but when?
Pretty fuckin lame contingency thinking at the CDC.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (QxTuE)
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (lwiT4)
if you're going to stir shit and make attacks do it from a long recognized nic, and ....
if you're getting shit stirred by an anon who doesn't have a long recognized nic just ignore it.
Please be seated.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (gd9RK)
Seconded.
Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out a lot of people give a damn! at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (w2QL7)
Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (C1SGV)
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 07:06 PM (w+Ped)
Meanwhile we have new information. She said she's having a rough day. Can we please ease off the gas?
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (uEbPt)
446 I'm reminded of an episode of Mad Men where there is a shitshow fight going on and Harry Crane looks on in amazement saying "and I had nothing to do with it".
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:08 PM (gd9RK)
447 Great knowledge was gained, assholes. Knock it off.
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:09 PM (/ZYFC)
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Always with the Negative Waves Moriarty! Always with the Negative Waves!
Posted by: Oddball grooving in his Sherman at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (+0uDE)
I know.. really pulls the room together.
lol.. sorry bad joke but it made me laugh when I thought of it.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (dUJdY)
Am I seeing live transmission of the asshole virus?
Serious question!
Posted by: FDA Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (BiNEL)
"You can stop being a Fauci and be a man!"
Posted by: Boswell at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (32YRo)
I know, because I live here. Why don't people learn from that?
Posted by: Gentlemen
_______________
Japan might be the cleanest country on Earth, that might play a role in it.
Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.
Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (sjTfF)
also, they follow the rules
look at Miami's beaches
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (vEIlU)
If he had his way we would all live in a giant bubble and maintain 10 foot social distancing for life.
Damn theoreticians.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (mw1Wz)
Which is interesting and kind of undercuts the cw.
Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (HALdu)
Isn't the Brooklyn outbreak mostly among certain Hasidic sects?
Posted by: Fox2! at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (qyH+l)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (C1Lsn)
Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.
Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago
Also pretty much just Japanese and not a melting pot from every shit hole known to man.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: Hans Gruber in 2020 at March 23, 2020 07:13 PM (nu45M)
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Our Gov in MN flinched today when everyone expected a lockdown - and we're at 169 cases with 1 fatality. They were really prepared to shut down under those numbers. Give me a freaking break.
Posted by: jhawk90 at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (/ZYFC)
and promptly e-mailed a bunch of local folks that they were $2.50/dozen (10 cents more than my cost, w/ free local delivery.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (vwf8z)
________________________
He's an MIT Phd guy. I just got the link from my cousin. It's a 2 minute read
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:12 PM (DB16e)
Oh, yeah. He makes sure you fully understand that you are dealing with someone who has an MIT PHD!!! 4 Degrees from MIT!! Did I mention MIT???? And I invented email?
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (41rs/)
"Z-Pak"
No. The z pack is just the Azithromicin.
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (uEbPt)
I did go to your website-and by the way you have a very nice face-which is neither here no there because you can't actually sell your face with your books.
but then at the time I was looking I got a call and had to leave, so what is a first book I should read?Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (WI7YS)
"You can stop being
Posted by: Boswell
Fixt.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: pookysgirl, crayon expert at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (XKZwp)
Asking the doc if the rest of the "angry, angry reporters will ever all be allowed in the room together."
LOL!
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (oUnSf)
I'm in between the two extreme camps of "this is nothing" and "this is the worst thing that's ever happened" Some areas, I'm not saying it's a terrible idea, but i do think the people who are making the most of this just happen to be Democrat Governors that will almost certainly run for President someday. That's not an accident
I'm for short term social distancing, I just don't know what you do long term. We can't have a global depression where life changes forever to save a few 90 year olds in nursing homes that were probably at nearly the same risk with a garden variety flu.
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (sjTfF)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (87EdW)
Here's a paper on the anti-inflammatory properties of Z-pak:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22766077
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM (a0IVu)
Oh, yeah. The venerable zpack. The hammer in every NPs toolbox
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (dNzKv)
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:17 PM (a0IVu)
Went to four different stores today, 2 within Senior Hours. Not a roll to be found.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (lwiT4)
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (90T4r)
I'll freely admit that sometimes when I come on here I'm snarling and snapping and ready for a fight, which doesn't end well. It usually happens when I have gotten too many sugars in my diet, makes me really irritable for some reason. I say and do stuff I later regret. That people seem to forgive me or at least roll their eyes and say "oh that's just CRT" is a blessing.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (KZzsI)
Roundabout mid-summer his parents-who-love-their-kids-but-are-sick-of-them-hanging-around-all-day constituency is gonna be waaaay in his ear about this latest idiocy.
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 07:16 PM (QgtlX)
What's up with Coonman? How does an idiot like that get into politics and get elected anyhow?
Must be a lot of dumb asses in Virginny....
The man is a walking disaster show.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Blutarski at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (VNfwt)
_____________
NY state is starting trials of it this week, so there should be more than "anecdotal" evidence soon.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (k4dH2)
Birx, aka Scarf Lady is awesome"
Absolutely. Trump is a genius to question her directly and cut the reporters out.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (puu6v)
prone to hysteria. If one got ALL their info from this medical person,
one's proper response would be to go home and turn on the gas.
Posted by: tubal at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (90T4r)
---
lemme guess: they w*rk for the VA, right?
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (vwf8z)
______________
It's a pretty good common sense read. Dont read and dont agree if you wish.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (DB16e)
Taiwan and Singapore doing quite well and I don't think either shut down their schools.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 23, 2020 07:18 PM (nu45M)
Singapore purposely did not close its schools. They were afraid of the second and third order effects on the doctors and nurses availability. There was an article about this ages ago... like last week.
Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (+0uDE)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:16
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BF's wife is taking both for her rheumatoid arthritis. Part oral and part infusion. Pharmacy told her she may not get refill next month on Z-pac. Guess, it's gonna go to NY.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (Dhht7)
Went to four different stores today, 2 within Senior Hours. Not a roll to be found.
Posted by: grammie winger at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (lwiT4)
We had to line up 15 mins before the store opened in order to get it. This whole thing is beyond madness.
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (a0IVu)
There's no series, just whatever seems to appeal to you. If you don't like fantasy probably none of them will
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: davidt at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (l3+k2)
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (EL4ni)
Posted by: Mick Jagger at altamont at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (a1s18)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (oUnSf)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (miJU3)
are not well understood in addition to the antibiotic properties. The
x-quinines, which are used for RA and other autoimmune conditions have
anti-inflammtory and immune modulation effects....
I like turtles.
Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 07:23 PM (mw1Wz)
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (zr5Kq)
His precious NYT keeps telling him Trump isn't doing a thing.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 07:05 PM (ptqGC)
***************
Send him Tom Cotton's tweet on the crap bill that Pelosi is trying to jam through which doesn't address the problem. People are hurting.
Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (wiXsO)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (2GjZZ)
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM
Hoarder! Prepare to receive the swift hand of Justice that you suckers thought I was going to use on the leftist coup plotters.
Posted by: Barrrrrrr! at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (Ig7tA)
What's on the shelf is just what fits, they have a warehouse with more stuff in back.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (KZzsI)
Cornbread.
Posted by: jsg at March 23, 2020 07:15 PM (POXG+)
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That's anecdotal, of course, but it's certainly known that cornbread never hurts. Especially open-faced with butter, covered with black eyed peas and minced onion.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (sWM8x)
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (ZLI7S)
depends on many things ... pathogens can mutate even without the treatment, and in an emergency outbreak, an earlier treatment prevents wider spread. Wider spread also means more mutations ... so letting it go "viral" or feral in a community is also unwise. Isolation is difficult, recovery may be slow.
They are ramping up production even now .. a couple places, one US, one Israel iirc. But there are experts not part of the leftist mafia that evaluate all that stuff, if they don't get cut out of the process by corrupt department head that are members of "Hilda's resistance".
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (dUJdY)
Lordy, jewells, that sounds terrible. Yeah, daughter had that rattle too and after a chest x-ray it was a prescription of z-pack and something else for her cough..
Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (a0IVu)
Posted by: ... at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: banana Dream at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (l6b3d)
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (2GjZZ)
Ding! Ding! Ding! Winner winner Bat Wing Dinner!
Absolutely correct Rick B!
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (Z+IKu)
Why isn't Europe doing what we're doing? Italy is a disaster, I wouldn't take them as a model.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (vEIlU)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (C1Lsn)
Just about every virus or disease they are way low on the scale despite the density.
Cleanliness is just really ingrained in their culture.
Posted by: Blago
Also pretty much just Japanese and not a melting pot from every shit hole known to man.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (2GjZZ)
And the citizenry doesn't act like filthy toddlers who cram everything they can get their hands on into their fucking gobs.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at March 23, 2020 07:25 PM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Jordan61 at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (6ofTb)
Posted by: Mick Jagger at altamont
You didn't even need to sign that. I recognized it right away.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (gd9RK)
Got it, I was hoping I didn't understand the background!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (BiNEL)
I heartily endorse cornbread.
Posted by: DB- just DB. at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (iTXRQ)
Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 07:19 PM (C1Lsn)
Chico and the Coonman.
Posted by: Mr. Morango at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (2N7oZ)
Posted by: non entity at March 23, 2020 07:26 PM (B+t5k)
Posted by: Blago at March 23, 2020 07:21 PM (sjTfF)
That's the thing, when their states are still on lockdown and others aren't and are doing fine, their citizens are going to get mad. They don't want to deal with that and they're too inept to make the case to their people that the conditions warrant it.
Heck, they really don't even want to deal with the urban vs. rural divides in their own states. I'd be super pissed if I lived in some small village in upstate NY.
Posted by: Ghost of Lee Atwater at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (nu45M)
There's a reason you are still here and she is gone. it's nearly impossible to figure out why that is. Just know that there is a reason for you to be here and sometime, you'll finish that last task.
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (JKNZq)
It is. Sadly, doesn't work on viruses, tho.
Posted by: Caliban at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: Dingbat at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (KylN9)
Not sure if anyone said that yet.
Posted by: Denny Crane! at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (QxTuE)
Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (Ig7tA)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (87EdW)
I've got RA, and had to stop taking the infusion (immune suppressing biologic brand named "Simponi Aria") for my knee replacement last month.
I should be able to start taking it again with the go ahead from the surgeon this week, but I'm not going to until this thing is over.
And I already had a little flare this morning, reminding me the RA is ramping up again. I'll deal with flaring RA, rather than a suppressed infection fighting ability.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (f1Vqw)
Well, I don't usually read fantasy except for Douglas
Adams and Terry Pratchett-which I loved. Do you have a favorite of your books? I guess that's like asking a parent which is their favorite child, eh?
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (WI7YS)
according to Resident 3vil, my personal clinical pharmacist, among other things that have been discovered is that treating lung inflammation with steroids, which is standard therapy for that sort of things had worse results than not using the,, likely due to further weakening of the immune system.
azithromycin also has anti-inflammatory properties, as well as some anti-viral ones, despite being an antibiotic.
i suspect we will know more about both after all the data is crunched in the AAR post panic.
Posted by: redc1c4 at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (vwf8z)
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It's a pretty good common sense read. Dont read and dont agree if you wish.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (DB16e)
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:20 PM
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It's a pretty good common sense read. Dont read and dont agree if you wish.
Posted by: Horus Hearsay at March 23, 2020 07:22 PM (DB16e)
I read it. He is an egomaniac who believes his credentials make him the authority on all things, then spits out a bunch of recommendations about vitamin A and D without any support. I'll say it again, if the basis of your argument is that your knowledge is light years ahead of our current "medieval" medical science, and doctors just don't understand the things that you do, then whatever you are peddling is pseudoscientific bullshit.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (dNzKv)
What do people who work and have a kid or kids in say, the second or third grade, who isn't old enough to be home by themselves, do when businesses open back up and school doesn't, because they closed it two and a half months early?
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 07:28 PM (2GjZZ)
At the same time, this stuff should be used on every dying patient unless there is a clear conflict with their physiology or other medicine. I mean if they're gonna die, the side effects seem pretty minor in comparison.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 06:26 PM (KZzsI)
For fuck's sake, Chris. The stuff has been on the market for 70 years. Most of the adverse reactions crop up after long-term use. Knocking down a WuFlu infection is the very definition of "short-term" use. Many countries sell it OTC.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2020 07:29 PM (miJU3)
What's on the shelf is just what fits, they have a warehouse with more stuff in back.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:24 PM (KZzsI)
I go shopping between 11-12-midnight and there are only a handful of people in the store but the usual items are sold out.
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 07:32 PM (zqs/f)
There's a reason you are still here and she is gone. it's nearly impossible to figure out why that is. Just know that there is a reason for you to be here and sometime, you'll finish that last task.
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (JKNZq
I know but damn.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:32 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:34 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cats at March 23, 2020 07:34 PM (puu6v)
Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2020 07:35 PM (hxWs0)
There's a reason you are still here and she is gone. it's nearly impossible to figure out why that is. Just know that there is a reason for you to be here and sometime, you'll finish that last task.
Posted by: notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 07:27 PM (JKNZq
I know but damn.
Posted by: Northernlurker at March 23, 2020 07:32 PM (Uu+Jp)
Both of you are right!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:35 PM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:36 PM (oUnSf)
Posted by: ron n. at March 23, 2020 07:37 PM (om5HK)
Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2020 07:37 PM (MxEKc)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:37 PM (oUnSf)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:38 PM (oUnSf)
Posted by: Braenyard at March 23, 2020 07:38 PM (oUnSf)
Should give us all an appreciation for the extreme left hand side of the IQ Bell curve!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 07:40 PM (BiNEL)
Dessert will be several slices of aged cheddar.
Wait, it's Monday! We took a vow to dress for dinner on Mondays, ever since the viral attack! My G-d, already a decent into savagry!
Guess that's the movie I watch tonight, The Omega Man. Be good to see Chuck again and see which present day MSM clown reminds me the most of the zombie news anchor.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 23, 2020 07:41 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: UDM at March 23, 2020 06:41 PM (v9EIf)
Even if it proves to be effective only half the time, give it anyway. It will flatten the peak.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 23, 2020 07:43 PM (miJU3)
Are you trying to kill everyone in the house with farts?
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 07:48 PM (KZzsI)
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 23, 2020 07:54 PM (8IOEj)
Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 06:40 PM (QgtlX)
Of course, some will be on the Up Elevator and some will be on the Down Elevator.I have a feeling that most politicians, lawyers, judges, bureaucrats, etc will be on the Down.
Posted by: Grannymimi at March 23, 2020 08:01 PM (u5LFV)
Let's hand over ALL our healthcare to the Federal government.
After all, they're experts.
Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 23, 2020 08:44 PM (T09ml)
Posted by: Cluebat at March 23, 2020 09:05 PM (S8ld5)
Please comrades; do not get shut in; fresh air and sunshine
Posted by: SF jeff at March 23, 2020 09:21 PM (kJqpv)
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