Trump Considering Ignoring Fauci's Demand for a Near-Permanent Shutdown of the United States

These people know that we'll eventually starve, right?

Can someone calculate the expected death toll for a nation with no more food production?


President Trump is weighing calls from some Republican lawmakers and White House advisers to scale back steps to contain the coronavirus despite the advice of federal health officials as a growing number of conservatives argue the impact on the economy has become too severe, according to several people with knowledge of the internal deliberations.

Loosening restrictions on social distancing would override the internal warnings of senior U.S. health officials, including Anthony S. Fauci, who have said the worst of the pandemic has yet to be felt in the United States.

“WE CANNOT LET THE CURE BE WORSE THAN THE PROBLEM ITSELF,” Trump said in a late-night tweet Sunday. “AT THE END OF THE 15 DAY PERIOD, WE WILL MAKE A DECISION AS TO WHICH WAY WE WANT TO GO!”

The 15-day period is set to end on March 30.

...

[T]he push to reopen parts of the economy has gained traction among Republican lawmakers, including Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Patrick Toomey (R-Pa.), according to two people with knowledge of the matter. Spokespeople for the senators declined to comment.

Conservative economists Steven Moore and Art Laffer have been lobbying the White House for more than a week to strongly consider scaling back the recommendation that restaurants, stores and other gathering spots be closed, although exactly what that would entail remains unclear. Leading Wall Street and conservative media figures have also embraced the idea.

Meanwhile, Governor "Mammy" Blackface has ordered Virginia schools to end. Shut down for the rest of the year.

The year's over. I guess everyone will just repeat this grade.

That order also limited all public gatherings to 10 persons or fewer and shut down all "non-essential" businesses.

You know, all businesses are kind of essential to someone, right? That's how they make money -- someone out there needs them.

And one IOC member says the Olympics will be delayed, which I'm going to guess really means "cancelled until next year."

And the Democrats continue playing their partisan games:

If the Democrats won't help out, then end the economic shutdown, and let the deaths be upon Nancy Pelosi's and Charles Schumer's heads.

But don't worry -- in the meanwhile, the Dispatch will continue bringing you important communiques from the most important and relevant minds in America.

Oh, and wannabe pastor David French will continue lecturing you, and scolding Christians.

Another homo homily.

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1 FIRST!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 04:20 PM (TdMsT)

2 praying for our nation....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2020 04:20 PM (0O7c5)

3 pelosi is a vile scrunt

Posted by: Nevergiveup at March 23, 2020 04:21 PM (nRk/c)

4 Second?

Posted by: Darrell Harris at March 23, 2020 04:21 PM (iuFgi)

5 yo!

Posted by: Tonypete at March 23, 2020 04:21 PM (Y4EXg)

6 Seems like

QUARANTINE THOSE MOST AT-RISK AND LET THE REST OF US PRACTICE GREAT CAUTION

really might be the proper way of going forward.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:21 PM (xptlg)

7

There's our pal, Fauci, again!

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (PMDgy)

8 Steven Hayes can go horsefuck.

Posted by: Burgess Meredith at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (r1kPE)

9 The Democrats are Jim Jones, this is madness and they expect us all to drink the kool-aid

Posted by: batterup at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (K4I9O)

10 In Ontario and Quebec, all non-essential businesses will be closed effective midnight, March 24th.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (KxVoZ)

11 a pox on their houses

Posted by: Said no one from Wuhan at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (377Zs)

12 This dude is two faced and Trump seriously needs to have a chat with him in private.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (JUOKG)

13
This is a WaPo story, Ace.

So, probably Fake News?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (PMDgy)

14 Mick sock off

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (r1kPE)

15 My work is shot now.

There goes that.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (KxVoZ)

16 Remember how Fauci urged Barry to shut down the country because of H1N1?


He's a Deep State tool. Can't stand that power-hungry little twit.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (ptqGC)

17 Eff Fauci and eff Jeb Bush.

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (TdMsT)

18 "The year's over. I guess everyone will just repeat this grade."

You must not be acquainted with me.

Posted by: The Politics of Social Promotion at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (X9WjX)

19 Those Poor Transgender Athletes!

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (G2z01)

20 Va. schools to close.

Idle teen workforce to seek employment in yardwork, sanitation, landscaping.

Obsidian-knife-bearing Aztec incumbents unlikely to accommodate them.

There will be blood.

Begin!

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (qXNVo)

21 This dude



u mean Faucci ?

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (zr5Kq)

22 Two weeks I think is breaking point to continuing the economy or destroying it

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (ZCEU2)

23 Trump's in a bit of a political pickle. If he ends the shutdown and we have a big surge of COVID-19 cases, he's screwed. If, on the other hand, he doesn't end the shutdown and this thing peters out, Democrats will say he overreacted to a nothingburger.

I follow a farmer on YT. He's seriously not planting a crop this year because he doesn't know if he'll be able to sell it. That's pretty scary.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (wGeit)

24 Yeah, fakenews washpo

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (nRWPy)

25
Jeb who?

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (EGyGV)

26 You can have a quarantine or a dead economy.

Hell, you CAN have both.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (2GjZZ)

27 Fauci is a liability and a fraud.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (G2z01)

28 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (Zz0t1)

29 This dude is two faced and Trump seriously needs to have a chat with him in private.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2020 04:22 PM (JUOKG)


IF by "chat" you mean set ablaze and push over a balcony railing, then yeah.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM (8B6Ng)

30 What the fuck does Jeb! know about anything?

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (Zz0t1)

31 Fauci had that "Hillary was so wonderful" e-mail in Wikileaks. He was called Hillary's Dr admirer by Cheryl Mills.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (+0AKE)

32 SPONGE!

Posted by: Ladyl at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (TdMsT)

33 What in the stump toad ever loving heck is 'servant' leadership?


Posted by: mustbequantum at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (MIKMs)

34 Sure Fauci shut it all down. This is no Death Star trash compacter. This will start the era of Colander Face.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (K04g6)

35 Jeb and his entire shrub clan can DIAF. And that goes for the cucks at the Bulwark, too.

Gah. *seethes*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (ptqGC)

36 maybe allow restaurants to operate at 1/2 capacity or something?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (xptlg)

37 You know good.

There is nothing wrong with Fauci giving his advice to Trump as to what he thinks should be done.

And there is nothing wrong with Trump ignoring it. Or taking it under advisement with competing advice on other matters that are not under Fauci's purview.

It is not all or nothing. But then most of us can comprehend that there are competing things and you have to take it all under advisement.

Sadly, our press is not really capable of doing this in their little "minds."

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (sX1BW)

38 Well if this leads to measuring competency Jeb Bush will STILL be out of a job.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (e284m)

39 Wuhan sock off

Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (377Zs)

40 The WaPo is a vile, malodorous, fetid pool of goo.

But Trump is alarmed by stock market & impact of high unemployment for 2020 election -- & weighing easing restrictions

Is it the election? Maybe. I imagine that it certainly factors into it. But I also reckon that collapsing GDP, surging unemployment, faltering production, overworked distribution networks, economic dislocation the likes of which we've never seen in peacetime and the potential of a permanent reset of our economy to a level last seen generations ago are probably more of a factor.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (e/H31)

41 Jeb Bush tells The Dispatch that the coronavirus pandemic will lead to “a movement toward valuing competency, consensus, and servant leadership.

If we could get these things by wishing we'd have them all the time.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (wGeit)

42 Fauci can be invited to resign if this really bothers him

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (kOpft)

43 My kid's private va school is doing this remotely. The public schools that didn't handout free laptops are just bagging it.

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (nRWPy)

44 Please clap ....


-el Heb

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (zr5Kq)

45 The Dispatch is a parody site. Fight me!

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (yeKQO)

46 And wrote downstairs I think it will take at least 3 weeks for the grocery store supply chain to catch up after a 100% return to work

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (ZCEU2)

47 I'm at work because I refused to telecommute. It turns out they actually needed someone on hand to deal with the mail and real live people.

So many people are out of work.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (bMMCK)

48 according to several people with knowledge of the internal deliberations


aka duplicitous fuckstick LEAKERS

yes, them again

Posted by: Hands at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (786Ro)

49 I've been busy...Did Uncle Joe give his fireside chat today, or did he forget.

Posted by: Colin at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (XzwKe)

50 I look forward to the deep mind thoughts of Egg McMuffin on this Chinese-caused crisis.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Come to thePanic Party at The Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (VCMZN)

51 I just got an appointment for April 6th to get fingerprinted for a Federal job... so "maybe" that's the planned date to be back in business?

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (zqs/f)

52
What the fuck does Jeb! know about anything?
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (Zz0t1)






I believe he knows something about the Clap.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (EGyGV)

53 Repeat the grade? Haha, silly Ace. They'll just advance the kids to the next level cause anything else would be racisssssssss

Posted by: MagisterG at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (cs5e8)

54 31 Fauci had that "Hillary was so wonderful" e-mail in Wikileaks. He was called Hillary's Dr admirer by Cheryl Mills.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (+0AKE)


Maybe he's just a suck-up.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (wGeit)

55 Please clap.

Posted by: Jeb at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (iQmdl)

56 Seems like

QUARANTINE THOSE MOST AT-RISK AND LET THE REST OF US PRACTICE GREAT CAUTION

really might be the proper way of going forward.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore


We get to repeat this in 8 months when the seasonal flu kicks off again and we stare 20,000+ deaths in the face.

Unless those deaths don't matter.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (2GjZZ)

57

I thought the president's "let's not let the cure be worse than the problem" was referring to the Democrats loading up the relief bill with leftist garbage??

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (PMDgy)

58 Point of order, Jim Jones was cheap. He used Flavor-Aid brand.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (K04g6)

59 If Fauchi worked for Hillary, he'd get the flu and die.

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (nRWPy)

60 See I think this is good. This explains (to me) what the idiot governors were doing today

they are trying to "fait accompli" Trump and he is planning on getting us all FREED

we need to be free

and this:

QUARANTINE THOSE MOST AT-RISK AND LET THE REST OF US PRACTICE GREAT CAUTION


is the proper plan!!!! What we are doing is ASININE

open ended lockdown?!?!! it's killing us

literally

I didn't get to go to my ob/gyn. so no pap smear. how many are forgoing vitally important dr appointments, and will have major medical problems later?

how many are depressed?

how many are near bankruptcy?

YOU HAVE TO LIVE

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (j9HX3)

61 {{{{Ladyl}}}}

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (Zz0t1)

62 Is Yeb! thinking of his brother's worst - by far - moment as president, when a truly false panic led to an avalanche of stupid and counter-productive moves to "save" our financial system?

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (El6T/)

63
maybe allow restaurants to operate at 1/2 capacity or something?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (xptlg)


They're doing that here right now. And a lot of places are doing curbside pickup.


Fauci's got people so terrified to go out to eat or do anything, it's hurting everyone.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (ptqGC)

64 We know how to deal with seasonal flu. this virus is a different matter.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (zr5Kq)

65 Cancellation of USPS debt was put in by the Dems into Pelosi's bill? RUFKM? Hey, my dad is USPS retired postmaster, but what in the name of all that is Holy does the USPS have to do with COVID-19?

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (N39Ws)

66 Maybe he's just a suck-up.


well I freaking HATE suckups

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (j9HX3)

67 All this from a guy who was too Political to so much as ask Gay Men to stop Buttfucking.

Not make it illegal.

Not completely seize control of the Buttfucker Economy.

Just, a simple Public Service Message :

Please. Stop with the Buttfucking until we get this under cotrol.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (G2z01)

68 [T]he push to reopen parts of the economy has gained traction among
Republican lawmakers, including Sens. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) and Patrick
Toomey (R-Pa.), according to two people with knowledge of the matter.
Spokespeople for the senators declined to comment.
---

Well, if the democrats insist that nothing be done in Congress to help the economy, letting the economy right itself seems like a pretty good option.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (kOpft)

69 This will start the era of Colander Face.

Posted by: Anna Puma at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (K04g6)

They are really hoping to turn us into Venezuela ASAP. I swear, before I eat any zoo animals, I'll be sure to fatten them up with these freaks first.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (8B6Ng)

70 "It is important that we listen to Experts on all matters under the sun as their tiny, focuse, limited knowledge grants them they more wisdom and prophecy than the rest of us." -- Tom Nichols, noted Expert on everything including and especially Experts

Posted by: ShainS at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (sC74M)

71 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci is warning Trump officials NOT to listen to growing
push among WH advisers, GOP lawmakers to restart the economy

September 2009-Dr. Fauci: "Parents should not send their kids to school if they're sick, if you're sick don't go to work ...avoid places where there are people who are sick and coughing, now that's a difficult thing to do," he said. "...You can't isolate yourself from the rest of the world for the whole flu season."




Deep State virus.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (mw1Wz)

72 Still no talking about how much globalization is costing us in lives and treasury.

In 1991 the Wuhan flu would have been an isolated issue few in Europe or the US would have ever heard of and we'd have had years to get ready for it, presuming China did not intentionally spread it.


Was getting cheaper plastic crap from Chinese slave labor worth all this?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (WdocV)

73
We get to repeat this in 8 months when the seasonal flu kicks off again and we stare 20,000+ deaths in the face.



Unless those deaths don't matter.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (2GjZZ)
That will depend on the outcome of the election in November. They'll matter if Trump is still President.
Otherwise they'll tell us deaths are expected during a flu season, and what was YOUR name again, we want to help you understand by visiting you personally.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (e284m)

74 63


maybe allow restaurants to operate at 1/2 capacity or something?



Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (xptlg)

They're doing that here right now. And a lot of places are doing curbside pickup.


Fauci's got people so terrified to go out to eat or do anything, it's hurting everyone.




Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:26 PM (ptqGC)
We're doing it in NH - with special NH flare to it -- you can do curbside booze pickup with your food!! Live Free or Die

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (N39Ws)

75 Meep, por favor.

Posted by: Jeb! at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (Zz0t1)

76 Va. schools to close.

Idle teen workforce to seek employment in yardwork, sanitation, landscaping.

Obsidian-knife-bearing Aztec incumbents unlikely to accommodate them.

There will be blood.

Begin!





Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM

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Actually, the illegals are starting to self deport here in NE Texas due to the closing of restaurants and the social distancing stuff is drying up the landscaping businesses.



The local lefty newspaper had a sadz article about it yesterday.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (JUOKG)

77 >>> I've been busy...Did Uncle Joe give his fireside chat today, or did he forget.
Posted by: Colin

Yes, and yes.

Posted by: Tinkertoeverstochance at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (+FPkr)

78 maybe allow restaurants to operate at 1/2 capacity or something?


---------------

Maybe let Americans make their own damn decisions.

If you don't want to get Coronavirus, then stay the fuck away from everyone.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (sX1BW)

79 Damn, I was just wondering what is Jeb thinking.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (ZLI7S)

80 We know how to deal with seasonal flu. this virus is a different matter.
Posted by: runner


34,000 deaths says you don't.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (2GjZZ)

81 maybe allow restaurants to operate at 1/2 capacity or something?


yes. allow US businesses to make smart choices

allow US citizens to do their best to mitigate and protect themselves and others

trust us

SET US FREE

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (j9HX3)

82

I don't know who's worse, Pope Fuckface in Rome, or Pope Fuckstick French on twitter.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (PMDgy)

83 Fauci is waiting for Trump to do this.


He will the resign and become the new media resistance darling.


On tv 24/7 screaming Trump owns every new death.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (fNWtj)

84 FCPS is saying that Virginia governor announcement means they're going to do distance learning till end of the year, not that school's out altogether. They originally were going to do it for two weeks.

One of my kids is a HS senior. If you have a certain GPA and can find a legitimate outside mini-internship, you can skip your finals. If I read the FCPS announcement correctly, that's probably gone for this year. I don't think it's sunk in on kid yet, but I'm chuckling malevolently about it.

Posted by: Zombie Robbo the Llama Butcher at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (dfRN6)

85 So how many more steps after 'stay-at-home' order to get to martial law? I'm guessing damn few.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (HmZuC)

86 Fauci reminds me of Paul Krugman, you can almost see the slime oozing off of them. *shudder

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (2GPSc)

87 Jeb Bush tells The Dispatch that the coronavirus pandemic will lead
to a movement toward valuing competency, consensus, and servant
leadership.
***

So the opposite of 1992-2016?

Posted by: 18-1 at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (WdocV)

88 Jeb Bush tells The Dispatch that the coronavirus pandemic will lead to "a movement toward valuing competency, consensus, and servant leadership."

When I think of our shitty elites, "competence" doesn't enter my thoughts. Folks like Max "Always Wrong" Boot saw to that.
When I think of the Left that wants to destroy our liberties and subordinate the man to the state, "consensus" doesn't cross my mind. You cannot negotiate with a man holding a gun pointed at your chest.
When I think of Nancy Pelosi, Richard Burr, Paul Ryan and Jeff Flake, the words "servant" and "leadership" don't surface, far less together.

The man that tried to be President seeks to show his moral purity and deep thoughts during this time by prescribing ... more of the same.

Fuck him. Sideways.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (e/H31)

89
"Servant leadership" -- like you self-centered, egotistical and double digit IQ meddlesome shitheads even know what that means.

Start with, "Leaders eat last" ... ooooooh, look at 'em run away!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (pNxlR)

90 Anyone care to take bets on how long the 2 $11,000 night vision drones in California survive 'on patrol' for curfew breakers?

Then we can take bets on what brought them down.

They really do underestimate people, that's all I can say.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (e284m)

91
Question: The longer this goes on, the more misery the People suffer, who benefits?

a) Democrats
b) Republicans

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (PMDgy)

92 oftentimes what is classified as the "seasonal flu" is NOT influenza at all

often it IS a severe URI

like...a random other kind of virus

so...THIS CANNOT BE OUR METHOD OF TREATING URIs!!!!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (j9HX3)

93 @RyanGirdusky

.@realDonaldTrump receiving a huge bump in new Monmouth poll for his handling of the #coronavirus

In the Feb 6-9th poll:
Trump approval - 44%
Trump disapproval - 51%

In the March 18-22nd poll:
Trump approval - 48%
Trump disapproval - 48%

More breakdown here:

https://tinyurl.com/vsmel55

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (cF8AT)

94 I saw a list of Peloser's demands at Townhall.

It's all bullshit, but believe it or not, Planned Prenatalmurder wasn't on it.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (L2ZTs)

95 yes. allow US businesses to make smart choices


-----------------


Are we not free to make dumb choices?

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (sX1BW)

96 83 Fauci is waiting for Trump to do this.


He will the resign and become the new media resistance darling.


On tv 24/7 screaming Trump owns every new death.


Likelihood: Strong.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (KxVoZ)

97 Jeb Bush tells The Dispatch that the coronavirus pandemic will lead to "a movement toward valuing competency, consensus, and servant leadership."


And ponies!

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (oVJmc)

98 just got an appointment for April 6th to get fingerprinted for a Federal job... so "maybe" that's the planned date to be back in business?
Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (zqs/f)

Sorry hon. They have no idea, just feeling their way forward. I know because I have one of the decision makers in my dining room yelling into his phone. In fact, right now they're trying to get those old goats who are at risk and who aren't doing classified work and think they're too impt to telework to go home.

Posted by: dagny at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (nRWPy)

99 31 Fauci had that "Hillary was so wonderful" e-mail in Wikileaks. He was called Hillary's Dr admirer by Cheryl Mills.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (+0AKE)

Maybe he's just a suck-up.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (wGeit)

This. You don't serve 5 different administrations without playing politics.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (zqs/f)

100 We're doing it in NH - with special NH flare to it -- you can do curbside booze pickup with your food!! Live Free or Die


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (N39Ws)


Yeah, we can order a bottle of wine or two with dinner to go on our lil' island. Woot!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (ptqGC)

101 34,000 deaths says you don't.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (2GjZZ)


it's like saying we don't know how to deal with heart disease, because people still die from it - 610, 000 a year.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (zr5Kq)

102 David French will continue lecturing you, and scolding Christians.
---

At some point, we should go back to meeting in our homes and leave the cowardly clergy out of it.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (kOpft)

103 yes. allow US businesses to make smart choices

allow US citizens to do their best to mitigate and protect themselves and others

trust us

SET US FREE
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:28 PM (j9HX3)


That would be fine if US citizens were smart and used their brains / common sense.

But they're not. They don't. They wouldn't do the right thing unless government holds the gun to their head.

Posted by: Jeb! at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (Zz0t1)

104 I have not yet begun to meep.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Come to thePanic Party at The Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (VCMZN)

105

The grim fucking calculus is becoming apparent. Either we open the economy back up and a significant proportion of the old and/or medically frail die, or we lose untold thousands of productive workers and entrepreneurs to suicide and/or addiction. That's not even factoring in the civil unrest that is sure to hit when untold millions in the lower income working class runs out of cash (which is likely happening this week).

Any way you factor it, bodies are going to be hitting the floor.

So then, whose bodies? How does the government pick and choose? What is the socially optimal way to deal with such a desperate scenario?

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (SFOr6)

106 I understand we want to stop the spread of the virus since it can lead to serious illness that can eventually overwhelm hospitals.

HOWEVER, can we take a deep breath and look at history? This is not the worst thing humanity/the country had faced. Why is it that this particular situation warrants basically destroying the economy?

There have to be ways to allow the economy to keep going while still taking precautions to stop the spread.

The government cannot provide financially long-term for the majority of the country. People need to and want to provide for themselves. That is what has made us prosperous.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (9hauA)

107 it's like saying we don't know how to deal with heart disease, because people still die from it - 610, 000 a year.
Posted by: runner


Then save them.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (2GjZZ)

108 Sacrifice? How about all the "non-essential" DC workers get sent kits to start making masks for hospitals from home....

Posted by: 18-1 at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (WdocV)

109
Maybe some outfit should take a poll of senior citizens and find out how they feel about crashing the economy and putting millions out of work to protect them.

Posted by: Wuhan Wang at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (PtOP4)

110 Patrick Hussion @PatrickHussion
32s
**NEW: Pres. Trump signs an Executive Order to prevent hoarding & price gouging of supplies needed during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. AG William Barr has made this a major focus & he'll be joining the WH Coronavirus Briefing today at 5:30pm ET. @OANN

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (2wZD9)

111 >>> Fauci is waiting for Trump to do this.


He will the resign and become the new media resistance darling.


On tv 24/7 screaming Trump owns every new death.
Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (fNWtj)


I think that is called "pullin a Comey".

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (+FPkr)

112
Jeb Bush tells The Dispatch that the coronavirus pandemic will lead to "a movement toward valuing competency, consensus, and servant leadership."








As if he knew diddly squat about any of those things.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (EGyGV)

113 Hey Jeb--"leadership" and "consensus" cannot exist together. Asshat.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (Boy/L)

114 Also I've read that Schumer has gone beyond full retard on the floor of the Senate. He needs to be escorted and locked out of the building.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (L2ZTs)

115 David Frum on twitter blaming the Republicans in the Senate for the failure of a bill to pass.

Posted by: Dr Spank at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (yeKQO)

116 He will the resign and become the new media resistance darling.


On tv 24/7 screaming Trump owns every new death.


this is very clearly his plan

I would - were I Trump - simply place him in a Very Special Job in the sub basement with a very special red stapler.

and ignore him

don't fire him

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (j9HX3)

117 Some mayors in California are suspending the use of cloth bags for shopping. They claim the unwashed cloth bags are a danger. But of course right after this is over, back comes the cloth bags made in China.
I wonder if our beloved governor Cuomo would do this...I doubt it.

Posted by: Colin at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (XzwKe)

118 keep. May meep when ready,Gridley.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Come to thePanic Party at The Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (VCMZN)

119 Zod's Aztecs have not been released from their toil. They labor in a carefully constrained information environment, and have heard only bits of news about "la enfermedad." Fractiousness and bitchery is not tolerated--acute application of the knout has ensured compliance.

This condition will continue. That is all.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (qXNVo)

120
Fauci reminds me of Paul Krugman, you can almost see the slime oozing off of them. *shudder

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (2GPSc)

Speaking of which, I've started seeing ads on YT for some online course Krugman "teaches". Yes, I want to pay to learn from some clown who's wrong 99% of the time.

Posted by: clutch cargo at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (8B6Ng)

121 who asked Jeb what he thought?

no one gives a carp, Jeb

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (j9HX3)

122 We'll open up. Very few of us are at risk via the elites' pathway, and- anecdotally- there seems to be a good treatment.

On with the show.

Posted by: t-bird at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (Z1eux)

123 Well my boss refuses to adhere to the stay at home rule. He did reduce hours and we still get paid for a full week (except me because I haven't worked a full week in months lol). He just averaged my hours for the past 3 weeks and that's what I'll get for the next month. Sort of like being on SS a month early.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (dUJdY)

124 Trump and the GOP absolutely have to let it get known that the Dems are playing with peoples lives and livelihoods with their obstruction. They must insist on a clean bill and hold to it, letting everybody know its up to Nancy and Chuck. If the GOP caves, they are giving away all future elections as well as the country.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (r+sAi)

125 People won't starve because of lack of food. Food production is considered essential. Hence why I am at work right now. The issue of course becomes that no one will be able to afford to buy food because they aren't making money from their "nonessential" jobs.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (G2zl5)

126 What is 'servant' leadership"?

Posted by: mustbequantum at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM (MIKMs)

Bush is using religious terminology referencing Jesus talking about coming as "one who serves. "It is highly inappropriate to use for government officials unless they do it (serve) without talking about it, because nobody ever thinks of politicians as "not lording it over others" or thinking they should be "the least of all".

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (WI7YS)

127 91
Question: The longer this goes on, the more misery the People suffer, who benefits?

a) Democrats
b) Republicans
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (PMDgy)


Probably the Democrats. Having the media on your side is a huge, huge benefit when it comes to assigning blame.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (wGeit)

128
Alternate post title:

Why Don't The Democrats Want To Save obama's Awesome Economy?


*someone tweet that; it's a gem

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (PMDgy)

129 "The country's closed, Moose at the gate shoulda told you"...

Posted by: pahound at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (8UwM+)

130 There are many common sense and probably epidemiologically sound kinds of measures to take to partially/greatly restore economic activity. It's not black/white.

Some of them are already in practice - grocery stores open (but "social distancing"), restaurants open for carry-out, etc. These kinds of things can be applied widely, and allow much commerce to resume.

I'm thinking we'll see this anyway, as a first step towards an all-clear.

Big public events or gatherings, still banned.
Elderly facilities and hospitals off-limits to all but needed people.
Stepped up services to help elderly/vulnerable continue to self-quarantine.

Think this will be the first step back towards normal. Depending on numbers, might start later this week. And there could be great regional variation, too, based on local infection trends.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (El6T/)

131 Welp, John McCain's daughter has announced she's pregnant, and The View will allow her to work from home.

Good luck to her and congratulations.


Now maybe she'll have less time to tweet about OrangeManBad.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (ptqGC)

132 It may be time for trump to use the military to shut down Congress, shut down all "news" outlets

Posted by: Tom Servo at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (eauMe)

133 Food production and distribution is not restricted.

Posted by: torabora at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (r757R)

134 #117: Virtue signaling is a luxury few can now afford.

Posted by: Mikey NTH Come to thePanic Party at The Outrage Outlet! at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (VCMZN)

135 politico.com/biden to trump start acting like a wartime president
https://tinyurl.com/yx7k76to

Because inquiring minds want to get a chuckle now and then

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (ZCEU2)

136 The government cannot provide financially long-term
for the majority of the country. People need to and want to provide for
themselves. That is what has made us prosperous.

Posted by: chique d'Epstein didn't off hisself at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (9hauA)
The government mostly WANTS to provide for you and have you be dependent on it. This is what keeps their jobs.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (e284m)

137 **NEW: Pres. Trump signs an Executive Order to prevent hoarding & price gouging of supplies needed during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. AG William Barr has made this a major focus & he'll be joining the WH Coronavirus Briefing today at 5:30pm ET. @OANN

-------------

Econ 101 is way more dangerous than Deep State coups.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (sX1BW)

138 Fauci reminds me of Paul Krugman, you can almost see the slime oozing off of them.

Can't wait for him to desperately ask for computer help. Those Russian child-porn-downloading bots are everywhere!

Posted by: t-bird at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (Z1eux)

139 rhomboid' yup, agreed

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (G546f)

140 Do the people pushing these lock-downs understand you can't just shut down say, 70% of the economy and jobs and expect the other 30% that produces food and basic necessities to keep functioning? At least not for any length of time anyway.



Good news is schools will still have on-line learning so the kids can get heir diversity and equity training.

Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (MxEKc)

141 Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (SFOr6)

That's pretty dark. I also think it's a bit hyperbolic.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (rTkQv)

142 who asked Jeb what he thought?

no one gives a carp, Jeb
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (j9HX3)


Uh oh.......fish puns. That's crappie.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (Zz0t1)

143 Then save them.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:30 PM (2GjZZ)


There are known successful treatments for heart disease, medicine and surgical intervention. Without them, the rate would be higher. None for COVID19 at the moment.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (zr5Kq)

144 Trump should *mandate* plastic bags and start building new coal power plants. Also ban kale, the word diversity, and issue a shoot on sight policy on the border.


I mean they want him to have the powers of a dictator right? We'll let's indulge them.


Posted by: 18-1 at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (WdocV)

145 Why does Jeb Bush think anyone is interested in what he has to say? he wife might be but even that is doubtful.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (a0IVu)

146 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci is warning Trump officials NOT to listen to growing
push among WH advisers, GOP lawmakers to restart the economy


I'll say it one more time, and then I'm done for the evening. Because I'm borderline doing the same shit the panic mongers are doing. So this is it for the day.

We have civilian oversight of the military precisely because generals, left to their own devices, would do nothing other than fight wars. Rare is the general that will ever recommend "let it go, not worth it". Generals are almost always going to look at a fight and tell you how they can win it.

Fauci is a prime example of why doctors shouldn't be unsupervised either. Left alone with power, Fauci will rid the world of disease - and make it miserable to live in as a result.

Experts know their individual trees to the finest detail. But trust me - they don't see the forest the slightest bit better than any of the rest of us. Act accordingly.

Enjoy your evening.

Posted by: I Am No One at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (rUpwv)

147 This just proves the fact that if you put the government in charge of the economy, pretty soon you don't have one.

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (gmo/4)

148 We get to repeat this in 8 months when the seasonal flu kicks off again and we stare 20,000+ deaths in the face.



Unless those deaths don't matter.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:25 PM (2GjZZ)


If they are past the election they won't

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (aPvIU)

149 There is nothing wrong with Fauci giving his advice to Trump as to what he thinks should be done.

And there is nothing wrong with Trump ignoring it. Or taking it under advisement with competing advice on other matters that are not under Fauci's purview.

It is not all or nothing. But then most of us can comprehend that there are competing things and you have to take it all under advisement.

Sadly, our press is not really capable of doing this in their little "minds."

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:24 PM



This.

I suspect Fauci has the job because he is the kind of guy Trump likes to have on his staff. Not as ass kisser but someone who knows his profession and tells the President what he the data shows.
But PDT knows that his is the final and only vote.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (axyOa)

150 Okay, finally read the content.

This WaPo piece looks like more the same bs from the MSM we've seen for 3 years.

Probably there are discussions at the WH about how to proceed after 3/30. And, surprisingly only to a journalist, there are disagreements, and/or different plans of action being proposed and considered.

Someone who was present at such a meeting, or got to see the notes for it, and is either an Obama/Bush WH admin leftover who's leaking this. Or some earnest advisor who wants their proposal to come out on top, leaked it.

WaPo then runs it through the magic Orangemanbad-ificator that spits out an article making it seem as if there's CHAOS in the White House, or Trump-won't-listen-to-experts, or whatever template they're using today.

It's just speculation about what may or may not happen, masquerading as OMG Trump's going to kill us all!!!1!

Posted by: Hands at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (786Ro)

151 Apparently for while now, some in the business community has supposedly embraced the idea of "servant leadership" while ignoring the religious underpinnings.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (WI7YS)

152 Trump's priority is America not the election. Screw these evil scum .

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (5IbVn)

153 Jane, ever notice how all the rich cute newsreaders get to work from home and all the people who do real work still have to leave home?

I'm sure it's the same everywhere. CEO? Rich? Pretty? Work from home. Everyone else? Show up and do all their work for them or you're fired.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (L2ZTs)

154 The food problem is few jobs means few will be able to buy food.

Nearly half of America is poor. They already spend most of their cash buying TP.

THAT'S NOT A JOKE.

Posted by: torabora at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (r757R)

155 And Dr Fauci is enjoying his time in the limelight way too much. Shut up.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (a0IVu)

156 I never saw Servant Leadership open for anybody. In fact, I don't think that that band has ever existed.

Posted by: ShainS at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (sC74M)

157 >>> Welp, John McCain's daughter has announced she's pregnant, and The View will allow her to work from home.

Good luck to her and congratulations.


Now maybe she'll have less time to tweet about OrangeManBad.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


But will the delivery affect the funeral?

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (+FPkr)

158 : Pres. Trump signs an Executive Order to prevent hoarding & price gouging of supplies needed during the ongoing coronavirus

WE CAN HAZ MAIL ORDER AMMO IN CALI AGAIN?

Posted by: getting the banned you name it back together at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (VLcNO)

159 110 Patrick Hussion @PatrickHussion
32s
**NEW: Pres. Trump signs an Executive Order to prevent hoarding & price gouging of supplies needed during the ongoing coronavirus pandemic. AG William Barr has made this a major focus & he'll be joining the WH Coronavirus Briefing today at 5:30pm ET. @OANN
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at March 23, 2020 04:31 PM (2wZD9)


This is a really dumb move. Say hello to (even more) shortages.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (wGeit)

160 Watch blue cities and states start to count any respiratory related death as due to the Chinese Flu

They're not getting the deaths they wanted in order to justify the panic and the great fear the ginned up is about to turn to anger

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (vPKfA)

161
Some mayors in California are suspending the use of cloth bags for shopping. They claim the unwashed cloth bags are a danger.

I see people virtue-signaling with their cloth bags all the time. I wonder if they bother to wash the darned things after shopping trips? I'll keep using plastic ones, and accepting the dirty looks I get. We take them to the store's plastic bag recycling bin.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (ptqGC)

162 If we're going to value competency that excludes the Bushes.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (G2zl5)

163 Also ban kale, the word diversity, and issue a shoot on sight policy on the border.


I mean they want him to have the powers of a dictator right? We'll let's indulge them.


Posted by: 18-1 at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM

You forgot the word "social" used in front of all kinds of ridiculousness. Ban it too.

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (2GPSc)

164 Food production and distribution is not restricted.

Most get loans for the season. How is a bank to value a loan (if they're open)?

Posted by: t-bird at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (lK7fO)

165 In my experience, PDT fires people who embarrass him, not those who merely disagree with him.

Tillerson went on for quite some time calling the president a moron in private, still keeping his job.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (L2ZTs)

166 Fauci is a deep state tool with a crush on Hilldog. I trust Trump to set policy not him.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (nAiE/)

167 Maybe some outfit should take a poll of senior citizens and find out how they feel about crashing the economy and putting millions out of work to protect them.


it's a good idea

I know they would be heartbroken, honestly, to think that they are the cause of so much pain.

let's protect them! let's protect them and set the young and healthy FREE

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (j9HX3)

168 Jesus was into servant leadership, but not so much consensus leadership.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (sX1BW)

169 I saw this exchange on Twitter yesterday that sums up the conflicting priorities neatly:

Person One: If you're taking the "this is all stupid approach" you should be required to post your assumptions:

- acceptable death toll
- value of a human life
- expected GDP decline
- alternative measures
- number of grandparents you have alive

To which person two replied:

Yes. Also if you're taking the "shut everything down" approach, you should be required to post your job security and financial status.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (mf5HN)

170 do we need the olympics?

Posted by: phoenixgirl at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (0O7c5)

171 YASSS SLAY KWEEN

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2020 04:36 PM (v9J1p)

172
CNN is reporting rape, stacks of dead bodies and cannibalism in the New Orleans Superdome as people shelter in place there.

Posted by: Footage at 11 at March 23, 2020 04:36 PM (PbhA3)

173 Good news is schools will still have on-line learning so the kids can get heir diversity and equity training.
Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (MxEKc)

Yep. But, like the professors, they'll be scared to death that the parents can now see what they teach.

Posted by: golfman at March 23, 2020 04:36 PM (hOMhY)

174 I'm hearing a lot of "this is no ones fault" from talk radio.

That's crap. It's the fault of China and their communist shithole government.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:36 PM (Zz0t1)

175 Also anyone who uses the phrase servant leadership is WILDLY suspect in my eyes because I know people who push that line and nearly each and every one of them used said servant leadership positions to steal money, bang 17-18 year old girls in the youth group, or both.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (mf5HN)

176 phoenixgirl: no, especially since they decided trans "women" can compete against actual women.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (L2ZTs)

177 I thought lawyers had the market cornered on camera-whoring and totalitarian tendencies.

Doctors are currently leaving them in the dust. The current crop of finger-wagging , nanny-state MDs on every damn news channel telling us that destroying businesses and the American economy is good for our health can go fuck themselves.



Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (mw1Wz)

178 Joey, if Trump started acting like the 'wartime president' you want him to be, you and half the Dem hierarchy (and 2/3 of the press) would find themselves squabbling over dog treats in Gitmo pens, and your demands for legal representation would be adjuidicated around 2027.

Is that what you really want, copperhead?

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (8erNz)

179 151 Apparently for while now, some in the business community has supposedly embraced the idea of "servant leadership" while ignoring the religious underpinnings.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (WI7YS)


It's all performance, though. Another management guru fad.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (wGeit)

180 Also, I would be glad if the word Christian was never uttered by David French again.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (nAiE/)

181 Nothing I can do about the head of the FBI lying to Congress.

But I will reign fury down on you peasants if you try to manipulate the price signal in the supply / demand curve.

- William Barr

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (sX1BW)

182 NO Hoarding !

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (zr5Kq)

183
I just learned that I am in a essential industry, which is nice.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (0CeRG)

184 Jane, ever notice how all the rich cute newsreaders
get to work from home and all the people who do real work still have to
leave home?



I'm sure it's the same everywhere. CEO? Rich? Pretty? Work from
home. Everyone else? Show up and do all their work for them or you're
fired.

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (L2ZTs)


Yep. What's funny, is the talking heads on Fox and other networks are having to do their own hair and makeup.

I barely recognized Sandra Smith on Fox this morning. Heh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (ptqGC)

185 133 Food production and distribution is not restricted.
Posted by: torabora at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (r757R)


Having money to buy it though might be.

Posted by: Buzzion at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (G2zl5)

186 164 Food production and distribution is not restricted.

Most get loans for the season. How is a bank to value a loan (if they're open)?
Posted by: t-bird at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (lK7fO)

Fresh vegetables and berries don't get loans. We are exempt. The wineries are still working although the tasting rooms are closed.
The ag bank is open, they're asking everyone to call instead of coming in.

Posted by: CaliGirl at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (7bcfy)

187 Somehow when I hear people talk about valuing competence, I think the mean them. I mean, who else should we trust than the same people that shipped production over to China to the amount that we don't even make aspirin. That's competence right there.
Servant leaderships seems to mean whatever increases their checkbook.

Posted by: WOPR at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (SSXIz)

188 >>>This is a really dumb move. Say hello to (even more) shortages.


Agreed - if you think shelves are bare now, wait till price controls are enacted.

Posted by: Citizen Cake at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (HmZuC)

189 A pox on David French...

Can I say that in this context?

Posted by: MKoepf at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (DfSI5)

190 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries. Impossible to measure, but obviously happening to some extent.

But will only be a net-net gain if they are prevented from returning, of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (El6T/)

191 155
And Dr Fauci is enjoying his time in the limelight way too much. Shut up.

Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (a0IVu)

____________


As soon as I heard everybody in the media fawning over and proclaiming him such a man of great integrity ... I thought back to similar praise for Comey, Mueller, Horowitz, Wray, Barr, et. al.

Posted by: ShainS at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (sC74M)

192

That's pretty dark. I also think it's a bit hyperbolic.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone


Maybe, my friend, but I fail to see the flaw in the logic of it. By and large, we morons are fairly well-provisioned and financially secure. But that's not true of everyone, and I can't imagine what's going on with folks who were already living hand-to-mouth on low wages before this hit. They still have to eat. They have kids. Who is feeding them? If you're getting paid every two weeks, and then stop working for two weeks, what happens (not even considering rent and utilities) when absolutely $0 is coming in?

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (SFOr6)

193 176 phoenixgirl: no, especially since they decided trans "women" can compete against actual women.

This. It's not about hormone levels or anything else. It's XX or XY. Simple as that.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (8erNz)

194 I thought everyone knew that Drs have zero common sense?

that's why they are such god-awful investors - they are credulous, in some ways child-like, and generally absolutely abysmal as far as financial savvy and business sense

and common sense

they lack it

what they are good at is doctoring (usually)

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (j9HX3)

195 HELLO!!!! Is it MEEP you're looking for?

Posted by: Wyle E. Richie at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (Zz0t1)

196 Meanwhile, Governor "Mammy" Blackface has ordered Virginia schools to end.

Excellent. Stop teacher pay until school resumes.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - sanitized for your protection at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (mw1Wz)

197 Darnitall, I forgot that 'servant' leadership is something about the proletariat. Really, Jeb? Lay down and let each other's wounds bleed.

The Buddha was peaceful until he wasn't.



Posted by: mustbequantum at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (MIKMs)

198 Question: The longer this goes on, the more misery the People suffer, who benefits?



a) Democrats

b) Republicans

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:29 PM (PMDgy)



Probably the Democrats. Having the media on your side is a huge, huge benefit when it comes to assigning blame.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:32 PM (wGeit)

Normally I would agree but Trump has changed this calculus in a big way.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (nAiE/)

199 180 Also, I would be glad if the word Christian was never uttered by David French again.
Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (nAiE/)


He does cloak himself in his religion, doesn't he?

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (wGeit)

200 Philly won't let the public school teachers start online learning, because of the "equality" of each persons' internet system.

I work in the worst part of the city. Every one of these thugs have packs of roaches in their homes, little food, but they have 65" TVs and better internet than I do.

I suspect Philly will just push them all through to the next grade, because reasons.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (bkUtD)

201 There are known successful treatments for heart disease, medicine and surgical intervention. Without them, the rate would be higher. None for COVID19 at the moment.
Posted by: runner


Meaning 34,000 is acceptable for seasonal flu.
610,000 for heart disease.

But less than 500 for Covid-19. Got it.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (2GjZZ)

202 I follow a farmer on YT. He's seriously not planting a crop this year because he doesn't know if he'll be able to sell it. That's pretty scary.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM
-----------------------------
Or, it could be he knows he can profit more by taking bail out money from the feds by claiming a loss.

Another example. Successful small biz can weather 3 months making payroll during crisis. But if you take SBA loan and pay the employees next 3 months they'll forgive the loan. What would you do?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (Dhht7)

203 Funny how the govt has never cared about affordability of access to the legal system.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (+0AKE)

204 157 >>> Welp, John McCain's daughter has announced she's pregnant, and The View will allow her to work from home.

Good luck to her and congratulations.


Now maybe she'll have less time to tweet about OrangeManBad.
Posted by: Jane D'oh


But will the delivery affect the funeral?
Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (+FPkr)

...

At least the child will get to experience his grandfather's memorial.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (hr5kG)

205 >>There is nothing wrong with Fauci giving his advice to Trump as to what he thinks should be done.

>>And there is nothing wrong with Trump ignoring it. Or taking it under advisement with competing advice on other matters that are not under Fauci's purview.

>>It is not all or nothing. But then most of us can comprehend that there are competing things and you have to take it all under advisement.

>>Sadly, our press is not really capable of doing this in their little "minds."

Not sure why this is a hard concept. I expect the head of each discipline to give the best advice from their perspective. I don't give a shot about Fauci's view on the economy, not his job.

I guarantee there are economic guys on Trump's team telling him to turn the machines back on immediately. I didn't vote for them either.

I voted for Trump to make this kind of decision.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (ZLI7S)

206 I know I bitch about this, but everyone needs to call their senators and raise hell about this slush fund bill. There is really no excuse as most of us are working from home.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (wiXsO)

207 It just goes to show you government bureaucrats are idiots.

This is the guy that had 30 years and whose only job was the response plan for just this type of outbreak.

Posted by: MAGA at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (Bhh6t)

208 NO Hoarding !

----------

You know what is a great way to stop hoarding.

So called "price gauging."

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (sX1BW)

209 Dr. Fauci = The benevolent Dr. Cocteau

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (gmo/4)

210 - number of grandparents you have alive

I'm my own grandpaw!

Posted by: getting the banned at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (VLcNO)

211 Watch blue cities and states start to count any respiratory related death as due to the Chinese Flu

They're not getting the deaths they wanted in order to justify the panic and the great fear the ginned up is about to turn to anger
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (vPKfA)


You mean the places with the most draconian quarantine edicts?

Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (NiXyF)

212 I get the theory that you keep people separated and the infection chances are reduced. I understand the concept behind "social distancing" creating a flatter infection rate which the system can handle more easily by spreading out cases over time instead of bunching them up at once.

But what happens to everyone's lives when you do that? This is like something a theoretician came up with on paper using like a tenth of the variables. See it works perfectly in my computer modeling!

But what about the psychological damage? The economic damage? The cultural damage? The disruption? People cannot go without pay or jobs for weeks at a time while you play out your perfect lab concept.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (KZzsI)

213
Etta James' voice is sexually arousing.

That is all.

Carry on.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (II2Y0)

214 "do we need the olympics?


Posted by: phoenixgirl"


Olympics being canceled is of much greater concern to the globalists than American economy and lives being destroyed. That will motivate them to get this over with ASAP.

Posted by: Ripley at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (MxEKc)

215 There is a little known codicil in the Faber College Constitution that grants the Dean unlimited power in times of emergency. Therefore, by the powers vested in me, I am declaring the United States of America under Double Secret Lockdown!

Put Schumer on it, Pelosi; he's a nasty little shit just like you.

Posted by: Dean Wormer at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (q1Pj5)

216 How does Meggie Mac get pregnant? Hubby rolls her in flour and looks for the wet spot?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (KxVoZ)

217 Joey, if Trump started acting like the 'wartime
president' you want him to be, you and half the Dem hierarchy (and 2/3
of the press) would find themselves squabbling over dog treats in Gitmo
pens, and your demands for legal representation would be adjuidicated
around 2027.



Is that what you really want, copperhead?

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (8erNz)

The air from the helicopter ride is all of the adjudication needed.

Posted by: WOPR at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (SSXIz)

218 I believe the prudent thing to do is with widespread testing classify individual counties on a "Red-Yellow-Green light" scale.

Red Light: With actively expanding outbreak keep the non-essential business closed and ask people to stay home.

Yellow light: With moderate but stable outbreak, allow businesses to operate but continue social distancing, at risk people stay home.

Geen Light: With little or no cases in the county, no restrictions but encourage people to continue practicing social distancing.

The only universal restriction would be large events that draw people together from around the country.

Posted by: Serious Cat at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (zqs/f)

219
This is a really dumb move. Say hello to (even more) shortages.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:35 PM (wGeit)

Yeah, but it will play well with the public.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (CqE5x)

220 If you've not yet seen the Nick Searcy video that was posted here this morning, take a look. It'll brighten your day immensely.

Twitter link: https://tinyurl.com/vrtutcw

Posted by: One of the quiet ones at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (2GPSc)

221 "servant leadership?"

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (aKsyK)

222 Guy, the hardest part is lowering her into the frying vat :-P

Posted by: qdpsteve at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (L2ZTs)

223 I just learned that I am in a essential industry, which is nice.
Posted by: Diesel Jones

----

I unload and load cargo planes for UPS.

We're still essential. Every night I drive to work on an empty freeway. But my hours haven't changed at all.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (aD/4F)

224 Tom Cotton is actually, genuinely, angry.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (JRaU+)

225 I read BID N 's message, I think he wants President Trump to go all out dictator because thats what BID N would do.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (ZCEU2)

226 PA Morons - call Pat Toomey's office to support him! Japan's crisis ended by widespread mask usage. Japan had no shutdowns....GIVE US MASKS!

Posted by: kallisto at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (v9J1p)

227 How much is the shutdown of "non-essential services" going to cost us as a country?

Anybody asking that question? Anybody seeing any answers?

Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (NiXyF)

228
The Democrats will gain from all this.

Eventually, People will get desperate. And they will vote for the party that promises to Pay All Their Bills.



Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (PMDgy)

229 I'm sure it's the same everywhere. CEO? Rich? Pretty? Work from home. Everyone else? Show up and do all their work for them or you're fired.

I thought we were on Weinstein Rules. Upper management and lower-level hotties report to the office, you're 'essential'.

Everyone else works from home, and if you manage the surveillance cameras in the offices you're fired and your logins have all been jerked.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (8erNz)

230 And Dr Fauci is enjoying his time in the limelight way too much. Shut up.



Posted by: IC at March 23, 2020 04:34 PM (a0IVu)


Fauci said it's better to look back and realize we overreacted.


Meanwhile, with Barry's H1N1, 60,000,000 infected and around 16,000 deaths were no biggie, and every single thing stayed open, including the schools.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (ptqGC)

231 190 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries. Impossible to measure, but obviously happening to some extent.

But will only be a net-net gain if they are prevented from returning, of course.
Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (El6T/)


100% agree to this. I'm not sure how we can prod the government into tightening up the border, but it needs to be done. Particularly since we're going to have pretty high unemployment for awhile.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (wGeit)

232 >> Welp, John McCain's daughter has announced she's pregnant, and The View will allow her to work from home.


All those Folds to Fuck...


what are the odds?

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (G2z01)

233 They're not getting the deaths they wanted in order to justify the panic and the great fear the ginned up is about to turn to anger

People are getting increasingly annoyed. The steps taken seem excessive to everyone but the most panicky and emotionally-driven. These ideas might seem great in a lab but in real life they have consequences.

Saying "well just give people money from the federal government" is insane, we can't just print off two billion dollars and hand it out as if that has no consequences to the economy, inflation, and the future debt.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (KZzsI)

234 How rude of Meggie to plan to give birth during month 33 of her father's funeral.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (KxVoZ)

235 QUARANTINE THOSE MOST AT-RISK AND LET THE REST OF US PRACTICE GREAT CAUTION
---
If we learned anything from how we solved the AIDS crisis, it's that we cannot risk any possibility of stigma on those most at risk--even if it means thousands will die needlessly

Your idea of a highly-effective targeted action is hateful and un-American.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (vPKfA)

236 Kind of a shocker. My wife has exactly two (2) remaining lefty friends who haven't blocked* her on Assbook. One of them just called out the Democrats for blocking the bill over diversity etc. This is a woman who owns several cats and a pussyhat.

*Or whatever the hell it is you do. I don't do Assbook.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (ZbwAu)

237 If there was a true pandemic, you would not need the government to ask citizens to social distance. They would do it automatically.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (sX1BW)

238 knew i should have bought that howitzer...

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (8D42x)

239 >>>Excellent. Stop teacher pay until school resumes.


yeah right. As if a Democrat client group would ever be unprotected.

Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (PbpT7)

240 Don't trust Fauxi...

Posted by: setnaffa at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (c4NCi)

241 227 How much is the shutdown of "non-essential services" going to cost us as a country?

Anybody asking that question? Anybody seeing any answers?
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (NiXyF)

..

One number that's out there is -20% GDP in Q2.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (hr5kG)

242 Dear Mr. French,

Just to be perfectly clear, and frank, you are the last person I would ask if I needed to know the difference between courage and recklessness.

Sincerely FOAD.

-Blake

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (WEBkv)

243 You know what is a great way to stop hoarding.

So called "price gauging."


===



NO Returns !

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (zr5Kq)

244 @alx 1 minute ago

BREAKING: Boris Johnson announces "National Emergency" lockdown in the United Kingdom due to Coronavirus.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (cF8AT)

245
Meanwhile, Governor "Mammy" Blackface has ordered Virginia schools to end.


Can't he just require students to wear protective hoods to school?

Posted by: Wuhan Wang at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (PtOP4)

246 >>As if a Democrat client group would ever be unprotected.


I think Andrew Gillum paid extra for that.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (G2z01)

247 Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (SFOr6)0

I am sadly a check to check guy. Luckily I work in what will be exempted if a full on ban occurs.

You did bring up some good points.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (rTkQv)

248 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries.

Its already happening, but unfortunately its very short term. Soon as this stuff starts up again, they'll return.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (KZzsI)

249 202 I follow a farmer on YT. He's seriously not planting a crop this year because he doesn't know if he'll be able to sell it. That's pretty scary.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:23 PM
-----------------------------
Or, it could be he knows he can profit more by taking bail out money from the feds by claiming a loss.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (Dhht7)


I suppose that's possible, but whatever the reason it's a crop that's not coming to market. People need to eat.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (wGeit)

250 Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (mf5HN)

I don't use it myself. I was just explaining that's where it came from. I think people with a faith perspective in all Kinds of work can come that understanding in part of wanting to serve-but should keep it to themselves. Nobody would believe in the sincerity of people who loudly tell others that they come to serve others. It's like telling others how humble you are.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (WI7YS)

251 We are striving for peak stupid. This panic shit smacks of the Y2K bullshit. Bunch of screeching ninnies running in circles with their hair on fire.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (o2MD2)

252 >>Etta James' voice is sexually arousing.

This is not true of Fran Drescher.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (qXNVo)

253 Finally, the Jeb has spoken! Real leadership. Peak leadership!

Posted by: JebPilled at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (QUqEV)

254 What is it, somewhere around 99.9999% of the country hasn't died from this?

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (41rs/)

255 228
The Democrats will gain from all this.

Eventually, People will get desperate. And they will vote for the party that promises to Pay All Their Bills.



Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (PMDgy)

===========

"They will?"
-Andrew Yang

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (zZbCU)

256 A Leftist comment at politico on BID N writeup
Biden wins in a landslide --- 25% unemployment by November and people will have had enough of the "winning" from the Great Trump Recession of 2020-21
Tell me now these jackwagons are not hoping for a rescission

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (ZCEU2)

257 I'm hearing a lot of "this is no ones fault" from talk radio.

That's crap. It's the fault of China and their communist shithole government.
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:36 PM (Zz0t1)

Exacerbated by their mewling media over here. I can only pray this is the nail in the coffin for these outlets. And I think it will be if we come out on the other side soon with no ill effects other than losing our jobs and retirements.

Posted by: Meep Floyd at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (8B6Ng)

258 US death rate works out to .013 percent.

If I can count.

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (T09ml)

259 NO Hoarding !

----------

You know what is a great way to stop hoarding.

So called "price gauging."

Posted by: SH

----

And you know what would get everything back on track without any depression?

Tell the fuckin' government to lock down, while we deal ENTIRELY with supply and demand.

Turn the entire USA into a massive (so-called) "black market" where sellers who want to sell can sell and buyers who want to buy can buy.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (aD/4F)

260 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the
wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain
industries. Impossible to measure, but obviously happening to some
extent.



But will only be a net-net gain if they are prevented from returning, of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (El6T/)

Even still as this goes on Dems and Rs like Mike Lee are pushing hard for increased work visas... including huge increases for work visas for China of all places.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (nAiE/)

261 You know what is a great way to stop hoarding.

So called "price gauging."

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM
--------------------
AKA, supply and demand.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (Dhht7)

262 190
Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly
disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries.
Impossible to measure, but obviously happening to some extent.



But will only be a net-net gain if they are prevented from returning, of course.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (El6T/)

______________


Wonder if this will have any effect on H-1B visas? I'm sure the good pro-American-tech-sector-worker Senators from Utah, Mutt and Mike, will continue trying to ramp them up even more.

Posted by: ShainS at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (sC74M)

263 >>>>Etta James' voice is sexually arousing.


If you don't look at the album cover, sure.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (G2z01)

264 I guarantee there are economic guys on Trump's team telling him to turn the machines back on immediately. I didn't vote for them either.

I voted for Trump to make this kind of decision.
Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:39 PM (ZLI7S)

Trump is not turning the machines back on today.
He'll probably wait until the 15 day period is over and then say it's up to the governors.

He leaves them out to dry as the public starts getting sick of staying home.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (CqE5x)

265 One number that's out there is -20% GDP in Q2.
Posted by: TexasDan at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (hr5kG)


So, we can think of it like this:

The government response to COVID-19 will cost every American 20% off the top of whatever they're making in salary and other income.

Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (NiXyF)

266 248 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries.

Its already happening, but unfortunately its very short term. Soon as this stuff starts up again, they'll return.


And as it's much quicker to restart with experienced Juan and Julio than training locals, we're gonna see a big push for this.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (8erNz)

267 The extent to which this has been taken smells like bullshit. It's starting to feel like a real con, with the way everything is being manipulated into a worse case scenario. It's moving from place to place, to stamp out any glimmer of hope or reality. "OK, I'll order from Amazon if I am home. Oh, did we tell you that package you order might have the virus on it?"

Yeah, fuck you.

The end game here appears to be an assault on our economy. When you start to think who that would benefit, and then you look at the Democrats Coronavirus Nill, my Spidey-Sense feels like someone is trying to doink me in the squeakhole.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (VpIIl)

268 227 How much is the shutdown of "non-essential services" going to cost us as a country?

Anybody asking that question? Anybody seeing any answers?
Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (NiXyF)


Literally everyone is asking that question, and nobody has a clue where it's going.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (wGeit)

269 >>It's like telling others how humble you are. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (WI7YS)


Doing so is a symptom of mental illness.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (qXNVo)

270 These people know that we'll eventually starve, right?
........

"Bonus." - Democrats

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (v0R5T)

271 Maybe, my friend, but I fail to see the flaw in the
logic of it. By and large, we morons are fairly well-provisioned and
financially secure. But that's not true of everyone, and I can't
imagine what's going on with folks who were already living hand-to-mouth
on low wages before this hit. They still have to eat. They have kids.
Who is feeding them? If you're getting paid every two weeks, and then
stop working for two weeks, what happens (not even considering rent and
utilities) when absolutely $0 is coming in?


Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM

---

My brother is on SS disability from when he had a heart attack on the job 6 years ago. He can't get any kind of work because SS won't clear him to work.


His wife and her two grown children live in their house with a mortgage. and all of them work in the restaurant/bar business in Ohio which has now been shut down.

They were doing OK before this hit and now they are not doing OK.


There is no way that 4 people can survive on one SS disability check.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (JUOKG)

272 I don't care about my difference of opinion with Fauci and don't want him to be just a yes man as a Trump adviser. But I don't think he should be able to go on TV and criticize Trump and create unnecessary panic as a Trump adviser.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (5IbVn)

273 The Trolley Problem writ large.

Posted by: WTP at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (WQfDg)

274 256 A Leftist comment at politico on BID N writeup
Biden wins in a landslide --- 25% unemployment by November and people will have had enough of the "winning" from the Great Trump Recession of 2020-21
Tell me now these jackwagons are not hoping for a rescission
Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (ZCEU2)

===========

They were hoping for a black swan event to take down Trump, hopefully through his economy.

The black swan event is going to make him stronger, though. Weird.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (zZbCU)

275 Norm MacDonald is giving up eating bat but he says it's not that hard thanks to Impossible Bat.

Posted by: x at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (nFwvY)

276 Experts know their individual trees to the finest
detail. But trust me - they don't see the forest the slightest bit
better than any of the rest of us. Act accordingly.

Enjoy your evening.


Posted by: I Am No One at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (rUpwv)

See "psychologists".

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (7ZMbn)

277 Fauci is Dunning-Kruger.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (1g7ch)

278 I think a crashing economy brings its own health problems: more crime, depression and suicide, possibly more domestic violence.
Not saying C-19 isn't dangerous. But for most people, it's just a bad cold. This isn't like the Spanish Flu or the Ebola Virus. We pretty much know by now who the high-risk groups are.

Continue the quarantine, but for the elderly and those with underlying health conditions.




Posted by: Mike at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (+pyyc)

279 Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:42 PM (cF8AT)

Sadly I think it's too late.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (rTkQv)

280 202 I follow a farmer on YT. He's seriously not planting a crop this year because he doesn't know if he'll be able to sell it. That's pretty scary.

Posted by: Ace's liver

---

Or (call me crazy) he could plant his crop, harvest it and give it to the people in his church and/or community for whatever they're willing to pay.

You know: sort of like how civilization happened in the first place.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (aD/4F)

281 I don't know where the point of no return is, but if Dr Fauci is willing to live in the homeless camp with me and my family, I'll go along with his decisions.

Posted by: BluesFish at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (Eh6LC)

282 A Leftist comment at politico on BID N writeup
Biden wins in a landslide --- 25% unemployment by November and people will have had enough of the "winning" from the Great Trump Recession of 2020-21
Tell me now these jackwagons are not hoping for a rescission
Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (ZCEU2)

If there's 25% unemployment by November, Joe Biden is not going to get elected.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (CqE5x)

283 266 248 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries.

Its already happening, but unfortunately its very short term. Soon as this stuff starts up again, they'll return.

And as it's much quicker to restart with experienced Juan and Julio than training locals, we're gonna see a big push for this.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (8erNz)

===========

Not if they take a week to get back to the border and then get turned back by Border Patrol because they don't have a valid asylum claim.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (zZbCU)

284 >>See "psychologists".

How many?

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ZLI7S)

285 oh, and fuck that wapo writer who's framing it ONLY as an election issue, NOT looking at and understanding the greater impact on our country.

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (8D42x)

286 Nearly half of America is poor. They already spend most of their cash buying TP.



THAT'S NOT A JOKE.


Nah. ALL of their cash goes to pay for their brand spanking new iphone. And new tablet. And Netflix. And acrylic nails. THOSE are the necessities for the poor. At least the urban poor.

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

287 234 How rude of Meggie to plan to give birth during month 33 of her father's funeral.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (KxVoZ)


Plus we all know what she was doing during month 24 of said funeral.

Posted by: moon_over_vermont at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (kUmUV)

288 255 228
The Democrats will gain from all this.

Eventually, People will get desperate. And they will vote for the party that promises to Pay All Their Bills.



Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (PMDgy)

===========

"They will?"
-Andrew Yang
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (zZbCU)


Yang was just a few months too early. Bad timing.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (wGeit)

289 275 Norm MacDonald is giving up eating bat but he says it's not that hard thanks to Impossible Bat.

Tarpaper with a chicken breast stapled to it?

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (8erNz)

290 I've been telling my fam all along that the country can get to the end of March and see how things stand, pandemic-wise, economy-wise, and crazy-crackpot-wise.

People are willing to sacrifice short term, and if flattening the curve or the rise or whatever we are calling it today can happen it will have happened by the end of March.

We can't all spend the rest of our lives hiding out while the MSM and their Chinese overlords fill the airwaves with propaganda.



Posted by: Boots at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (oGBso)

291 237 If there was a true pandemic, you would not need the government to ask citizens to social distance. They would do it automatically.


THIS

I am utterly a germaphobe. If I'm not terrified of getting this, that tells you something.

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (j9HX3)

292 If we really want to be able to deal with pandemic breakout of this kind with the same efficiency and success ad South Korea, then HIPA is going to have to be seriously overhauled to allow people to know who is/is not infected and/or exposed.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (af5xa)

293 "I hear the secrets that you keep...
When you're meeping in your sleep"

Posted by: gdgm+ at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ExnWy)

294 Continue the quarantine, but for the elderly and those with underlying health conditions.

--------------

Can the elderly and sick not make their own decisions whether to risk getting Coronavirus?

Perhaps you meant a volunteer quarantine - in that case carry on.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (sX1BW)

295 Wonder if all these sanctuary cities will track the number of illegals getting the Coronavirus and what that costs Citizens, or how it put people who live here at risk?

Yeah, me neither.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (VpIIl)

296 Note, almost every State that has shut down their total economy, has a Dem Governor.

Dems are stopping the Congress from helping the economy.

The downturn in the economy is estimated by some is bad enough that it will KILL 1 - 2 MILLION Americans, because of economic hardship.

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (NgKpN)

297 Don't be saying anything bad about those Democrats now. It's Not Who We Are. TM

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (NWiLs)

298 267:

"The end game here appears to be an assault on our economy. When you start to think who that would benefit, and then you look at the Democrats Coronavirus Nill, my Spidey-Sense feels like someone is trying to doink me in the squeakhole."

...without the lube.

THIS is the coup, and the end game is Marxism presented as Socialism.

Resist.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (puu6v)

299 If there was a true pandemic, you would not need the government to ask citizens to social distance. They would do it automatically.
Posted by: SH


Bring out your dead! Bring out your dead!

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (2GjZZ)

300 I unload and load cargo planes for UPS.

We're still essential. Every night I drive to work on an empty freeway. But my hours haven't changed at all.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (aD/4F)



God bless you, you are doing yeoman's work.

I tried to tip the girl at the drive thru today and she told me to donate it to a food bank because she's doing fine.

Everyone's not awful.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (mf5HN)

301 Nah. ALL of their cash goes to pay for their brand spanking new iphone. And new tablet. And Netflix. And acrylic nails. THOSE are the necessities for the poor. At least the urban poor.

You forgot the chrome 22s for the fifteen-year-old Tahoe.

Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (8erNz)

302 Agree Boots

and SeriousCat, I like your "color coding" of various counties idea

I think there will def be hot spots that require more serious restrictions

but not EVERYWHERE

and they probably WILL need to be blocked off ..lol blow the bridges!

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (j9HX3)

303 nearly each and every one of them used said servant leadership positions to steal money, bang 17-18 year old girls in the youth group, or both.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (mf5HN)


I fail to see what's wrong with either of those options.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (SgjGX)

304 283 266 248 Yeah, one huge benefit of the shutdown may be the wildly disproportionate self-deportation of illegals from certain industries.

Its already happening, but unfortunately its very short term. Soon as this stuff starts up again, they'll return.

And as it's much quicker to restart with experienced Juan and Julio than training locals, we're gonna see a big push for this.
Posted by: JEM at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (8erNz)

===========

Not if they take a week to get back to the border and then get turned back by Border Patrol because they don't have a valid asylum claim.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (zZbCU)


You realize only last week Congress expanded the H-2b cap? Of course what you're saying is true, but I don't see any way to make it happen, politically.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (wGeit)

305 I notice the poorest Americans, the ones who cant feed and cloth their kids, always have money for beer and cigarettes.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (o2MD2)

306 Pick a little talk a little
Pick a little talk a little
Meep meep meep
Talk a lot, pick a little more

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (NWiLs)

307

I am sadly a check to check guy. Luckily I work in what will be exempted if a full on ban occurs.

You did bring up some good points.
Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone


Me too, with a caveat. To some extent, almost everyone who works is check to check, but fortunately, a lot of folks can work from home. I can work from just about anywhere with internet, so the checks will keep coming. If I wasn't able to do so---if I had to show up to get paid---I'd be livid right about now. Sure, the courts are closed, so no evictions. Utilities aren't going to be shutting people off in a pandemic. But the grocery store ain't about to start giving food away.

People need to work. If they don't, we will have a host of other, equally deadly problems, except the victims won't be the old and medically compromised. They will be the healthy workers who kill themselves and the kids who suffer physically or emotionally from having their parents' frustration taken out on them.

At some point, government does come down to utilitarian calculus.

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (SFOr6)

308 Or (call me crazy) he could plant his crop, harvest it and give it to
the people in his church and/or community for whatever they're willing
to pay.



You know: sort of like how civilization happened in the first place.



How is he going to pay for HIS labor? How will he pay the people that work for him? For the gas and repair of his farming machinery? I understand charity, but unless those people who want the fruits of his labor will help him plant and harvest, I see his point.

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (ZCiJZ)

309 >> nearly each and every one of them used said servant leadership positions to steal money, bang 17-18 year old girls in the youth group, or both.


I hope they gave that money to those girls.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (G2z01)

310 Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (nAiE/)

No fucking way. Seriously? Mike Lee is such a piece of shit.

Posted by: thathalfrican - sucker free on my phone at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (rTkQv)

311 Nah. ALL of their cash goes to pay for their brand spanking new iphone. And new tablet. And Netflix. And acrylic nails. THOSE are the necessities for the poor. At least the urban poor.
Posted by: shibumi

---

I l ove the "poor people" who smoke cigarettes and have LOTS of tattoos.

Those are two hobbies that are about the same as owning a boat.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (aD/4F)

312 SH, you can't be serious (about people actually doing the smart thing when their lives are at risk). Maybe in some small sub-sets of the American populace, maybe in Switzerland, or Singapore. Here? Not a chance.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (El6T/)

313 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.

Says loss of smell could be early sign of infection,
takes whiff of armpit, whoa eww okay not infected,
so far.

Posted by: azalea city at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (WX+x0)

314
>>It's like telling others how humble you are. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (WI7YS)


Lord knows it's hard to be humble.

Posted by: Mac Davis at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (q1Pj5)

315 One number that's out there is -20% GDP in Q2.

Posted by: TexasDan at March 23, 2020 04:42
-----------------------------------
One Quarter does not a Year make. MLynch and maybe Chase still calling for single digit growth by year end. So, maybe 4-7% growth from Jan 1.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (Dhht7)

316 291 237 If there was a true pandemic, you would not need the government to ask citizens to social distance. They would do it automatically.


THIS

I am utterly a germaphobe. If I'm not terrified of getting this, that tells you something.
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (j9HX3)

Was just out running errands, everyone is being careful to the point its like a 3 Stooges movie.

After you
No, after you
No, I insist, after you

Posted by: Romeo13 at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (NgKpN)

317 Maybe, my friend, but I fail to see the flaw in the logic of it. By and
large, we morons are fairly well-provisioned and financially secure.
But that's not true of everyone, and I can't imagine what's going on
with folks who were already living hand-to-mouth on low wages before
this hit.
---
Anyone else remember those articles we've been seeing for years about how the average American/couple/household couldn't scrape up $1000 (or whatever) in an emergency?

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (kOpft)

318 I would think we have flattened the curve by April 1 with all these shutdowns. I also think people are gonna start saying fine with social distancing and washing my hands every 3 minutes, but I am going to live my life. At some point, it has to happen anyway.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (r+sAi)

319 I unload and load cargo planes for UPS.

We're still essential. Every night I drive to work on an empty freeway. But my hours haven't changed at all.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (aD/4F)



I imagine you will be swamped as long as the warehouses remain full.

Posted by: Diesel Jones at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (0CeRG)

320 He does cloak himself in his religion, doesn't he?

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (wGeit)

Not his religion as far as I can tell.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (nAiE/)

321 300 I unload and load cargo planes for UPS.

We're still essential. Every night I drive to work on an empty freeway. But my hours haven't changed at all.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:40 PM (aD/4F)


God bless you, you are doing yeoman's work.

I tried to tip the girl at the drive thru today and she told me to donate it to a food bank because she's doing fine.

Everyone's not awful.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (mf5HN)


Yeah, but the good people end up in the drive-thru window and the awful people become politicians and CEOs.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (wGeit)

322 Or (call me crazy) he could plant his crop, harvest it and give it to the people in his church and/or community for whatever they're willing to pay.

You know: sort of like how civilization happened in the first place.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 04:45 PM (aD/4F)


Or, he could plant it, harvest, and give to me...
...right after I shoot his dog.

Posted by: Lord Humongous at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (1g7ch)

323 175 Also anyone who uses the phrase servant leadership is WILDLY suspect in my eyes because I know people who push that line and nearly each and every one of them used said servant leadership positions to steal money, bang 17-18 year old girls in the youth group, or both.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:37 PM (mf5HN)

Huh. Second look at youth ministry as an alternate career?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (NWiLs)

324 US death rate works out to .013 percent.


-

It's more fun to write it out.

Thirteen one thousandths.

Of one percent.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (41rs/)

325 I bet all those teachers in VA are going to get paid. How can you decide on March 23 rd that this is the end of hte school year. What about all those working parents? What about all those free meals? Bet people are reall happy they elected this guy Governor.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (QzF6i)

326 Alot can be done with public awareness about illness and spreading germs. On the short term I think that is happening. Hearing announments on music stations even to cover, wash and keep distance.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (ZCEU2)

327 "Trump is alarmed by stock market & impact of high unemployment for 2020 election "

it would be the right attitude to have even if this weren't an election year

we should not wreck the economy and destroy the post-Cold War prosperity of this country just to REDUCE casualties among a high-risk (SOON TO DIE) demographic

Posted by: Head Football Coach Howard Schnellenberger at March 23, 2020 04:49 PM (cNBLi)

328 314
>>It's like telling others how humble you are. Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (WI7YS)


Lord knows it's hard to be humble.
Posted by: Mac Davis at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (q1Pj5)

Not really.

Posted by: Uriah Heep at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (NWiLs)

329 I wish I hadn't clicked on that David French article, even though I knew what he would say.

Sorry pal, don't you go making assumptions about me. Secondly, how do you know that that particular person at the school meeting was responsible for giving the virus to the 20 others who have it? Given that they all live in the same area, it's entirely possible that others already had it, or got it elsewhere. On March 7 most people were still out and about doing their business.

I'm glad my pastor is leaving the church open during the day. Each day I go and I see one or two or maybe three other people there, just stopping in to pray for a few minutes. No one sits anywhere near anyone else. The one thing that unites us is our reason for being there: God.

Posted by: bluebell at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (/669Q)

330 Apple....tree...


Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (cF8AT)

331 CDC estimates for seasonal flu:

38,000,000 - 54,000,000 illnesses

17,000,000 - 25,000,000,medical visits

390,000 - 710,000 hospitalizations

23,000 - 59,000 deaths.

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (T09ml)

332 And this nonsense is the exact opposite of what we were told to do during the great Aids Epidemic in the 1980's. At that point you couldn't say anything about quarantine because how insensitive of you, hater! All the public health measures put in place in prior centuries went right out the window because a favored leftist group was the one that brought the virus to the West and refused to stop the promiscuous sexual habits that spread it

Posted by: Boots at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (oGBso)

333
that's why they are such god-awful investors - they are credulous, in some ways child-like, and generally absolutely abysmal as far as financial savvy and business sense

Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 04:38 PM (j9HX3)







I'm reminded that Sam Raimi and Bruce Campbell supposedly got the original funding for The Evil Dead from a bunch of Detroit dentists.

At least the money wasn't wasted.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (EGyGV)

334 What the panicked among us forget, don't realize, or don't understand, is that EVERYTHING has a cost.

Saving "only one human life" has a cost.

Shutting down major U.S. cities has a cost.

People dying of COVID-19 has a cost.

Everything has a cost. Shutting down the country has a cost, one we may not be able to afford.

Letting COVID-19 run wild has a cost. It may be callous to say, but that is a cost we have paid before (everything from the Spanish flu to the Black Death). That might be hideously expensive in money and in lives, but we HAVE paid that price before in humanity's history.

Clear, sound, sober, and realistic decisions need to be made. The likes of Pelosi and Schumer are utterly incapable of that kind of decision-making. Neither is Fauci, I am quite sure.

We elected Trump for this.

Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (NiXyF)

335 >>Nah. ALL of their cash goes to pay for their
brand spanking new iphone. And new tablet. And Netflix. And acrylic
nails. THOSE are the necessities for the poor. At least the urban poor. Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

And tattoos. And crystal methamphetamine. And Marlboros. And fake tits. And potted meat product with Saltines.

Oh. You said "urban" poor.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (qXNVo)

336 David French: "How do you do, fellow Christian bigots?"

Posted by: BourbonChicken at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (LxTcq)

337 Pick a little talk a little
Pick a little talk a little
Meep meep meep
Talk a lot, pick a little more
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (NWiLs)


Jump down.
Turn around.
Pick a bail of meep.

Jump down.
Turn around.
Pick a bail of meep.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (Zz0t1)

338 Meanwhile, the NYT and WAPO for the past week have barely mentioned the move toward potential treatments, notably hydrochloriquine, and then only to poo-poo the tests as inconclusive and paint Trump as causing a panic buy and 11LYING11 about it being FDA approved. And of course, the only mention of off-label use is in obliquy against health professionals snatching it from the hands of lupus and RA sufferers and wolfing it down prophylactically. Not a figgin word about ramped-up production (West Virginia plant tooling up for massive output) big pharma donating millions of doses, etc.

An effective treatment for people with serious cases would do a lot to calm the situation, and it is hard not to conclude that calm is not what some would want when they've been saying for months the ONE. IMPORTANT. THING is defeating Donald Trump.

Posted by: SloPitch Whiffer at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (TXOkZ)

339 Yeah, fuck you.



The end game here appears to be an assault on our economy. When you
start to think who that would benefit, and then you look at the
Democrats Coronavirus Nill, my Spidey-Sense feels like someone is trying
to doink me in the squeakhole.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2020 04:44 PM (VpIIl)

This set me off again becasue EXACTLY to teh whole comment. Then this made me laugh.
"my Spidey-Sense feels like someone is trying
to doink me in the squeakhole."

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (7ZMbn)

340 313 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.

Says loss of smell could be early sign of infection,
takes whiff of armpit, whoa eww okay not infected,
so far.
Posted by: azalea city



we've been taking vit D
glad to hear it officially endorsed
didn't hear about lack of smell being a symptom

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (G546f)

341 SH, you can't be serious (about people actually doing the smart thing when their lives are at risk). Maybe in some small sub-sets of the American populace, maybe in Switzerland, or Singapore. Here? Not a chance.

----------------

Of course they can.

If people were dying in the numbers predicted, most Americans would be pulling a gun on anyone who walked on their property.

But if the elderly and sick want to risk their lives - have at it. It's their life and their liberty.

I'm not really into controlling others, so long as they are not bothering me.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (sX1BW)

342 The department forced all detectives to work 12-hour shifts for the foreseeable future. The only good part is the roads are bare in Philly, and the stores are ghost towns.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 04:51 PM (bkUtD)

343 >>We elected Trump for this. Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (NiXyF)

Zod elected Trump so that he could hear four years of squeeee from his blue-state squeee neighbors.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:51 PM (qXNVo)

344 Hard to imagine that the disciple French would have been at the foot of the cross. Few were.

The courage of men is weak.

Posted by: Simplemind at March 23, 2020 04:51 PM (ZuGkg)

345 It's very interesting that the ruling class is infuriated that younger Americans are blowing off much of this bullshit. It's understandable from a public health standpoint, but most of it is a lot of anger that "obey!" doesn't work with that demographic.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at March 23, 2020 04:51 PM (puu6v)

346 Regarding the malaria/z pak medicine; Trump said we'll know something Wednesday. That's when he will make some decision.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (oUnSf)

347
Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (cF8AT)


Apparently, the cuunt rubbed off as she passed through it.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (Zz0t1)

348 Forgive the USPS debt. FUCK THEM. They fucked up the USPS. Let them fix it!

Posted by: rhennigantx at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (JFO2v)

349 I knew my S and P 500 investments tanked. But I just found out that my gold coins more than offset it.
Woo hoo!

Posted by: JAS at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (2BZBZ)

350 >>>275 Norm MacDonald is giving up eating bat but he says it's not that hard thanks to Impossible Bat.

haha

Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (PbpT7)

351 Apple....tree...

Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (cF8AT)


Huh. I wonder how many abortions Christine has had?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (ptqGC)

352 Welp, the Governor of New Mexico is expected to announce shelter in place rules at 3:00 local.

We only have 65 cases so far, but our medical structure is damned near abysmal. So, this is no surprise...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at March 23, 2020 04:52 PM (7s3Gx)

353







Willowed From A Prior Thread

Still applies here I think:


you can see the general tone of their communications changing
Posted by: THE_BlackOrchid_STATE! at March 23, 2020 12:37 PM (j9HX3)


I'm a lurker most of the time, but what both of you say often resonates with me as well.

I'm in Delaware and the (D) Governor as of yesterday has shut things down until May 15, joining NY, NJ, and PA and amping it up a bit for good measure.

Any doubts PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE Biden was on the phone to the DE governor letting him know Biden may well be the president in several months, and that as President he could be a very powerful friend (or enemy) to DE? And that he (Uncle Joe) would be forever grateful if the DE governor got with the lockdown program ASAP.

Posted by: RM at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (U3LtS)

354 >>>Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020

is this new?

Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (PbpT7)

355 I fail to see what's wrong with either of those options.Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at March 23, 2020 04:47 PM (SgjGX)

My treasurer is as tough as nails. I couldn't steal money from her even if I wanted to, and we don't have any anyway. We don't have any 17 year old girls or boys either; The prospect of banging them would be unappealing even if they were here. I suppose if you were 25 year old male youth leader it might be enticing but I never wanted to bang the teen boys-or girls- even when I was a 23 year old youth leader.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (WI7YS)

356 I do not care about cases or even deaths increasing by 1/2 or 2/3 over the previous week. How does the seasonal flu increase WEEK OVER WEEK???? I know it differs from year to year depending on the type of flu but is this virus worse than the bad flu viruses, especially when THEY MISS THE TYPE TO MAKE THE VACCINE FOR? That has been lost in the discussion as well.

Posted by: Brunni at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (E3FAu)

357 Britain:

Transformed from, "We shall fight them on the beaches..."
to
"Everyone stay home..."



Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (gmo/4)

358 Where do they put the #s for "just got sick of their shit" on the mortality stats.

Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (FhXTo)

359 Boris just locked down the UK for three weeks.

Posted by: Bert G at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (OMsf+)

360 Patrick Hussion @PatrickHussion
12m
**BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson puts the UK on a 3-week lockdown as the virus spreads. Johnson has approved measures to ban all unnecessary movement of people. Police will break up gatherings and have the power to fine individuals who break the laws. @OANN

Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (R7lVb)

361 It's very interesting that the ruling class is infuriated that younger Americans are blowing off much of this bullshit. It's understandable from a public health standpoint, but most of it is a lot of anger that "obey!" doesn't work with that demographic.

-------------

Kind of reminiscent when the Boomers blew off the "obey" rhetoric from their elders. At least their elders accomplished something of significance.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (sX1BW)

362 If you don't look at the album cover, sure.
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:43 PM (G2z01)

-----

Oh sure. She's a two-bagger.

That doesn't mean she couldn't sing me a song and lure me into a deadly moral spiral of sin and iniquity.

Probably ending in an LA motel room with a smile on my face.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (II2Y0)

363 How is he going to pay for HIS labor? How will he pay the people that work for him? For the gas and repair of his farming machinery? I understand charity, but unless those people who want the fruits of his labor will help him plant and harvest, I see his point.
Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (ZCiJZ)


Yeah, labor is actually a small consideration. Nobody wants to see his labor unrewarded, but even worse is putting in a bunch of work and losing money. Farming requires a whole lot of money up-front to make sure you get a full crop at harvest time.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (wGeit)

364 Bullets and viruses are two different things.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (7s3Gx)

365 WH sources say Trump recalled the CDC embedded epidemiologist from beijing in July 2019, brought her into the Oval Office, plunged his hand into her chest, ripped out her heart and took a bite while it was still beating.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (dNzKv)

366 If there was a true pandemic, you would not need the government to ask citizens to social distance. They would do it automatically.
Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:41 PM (sX1BW)
.........

Wait... you mean the government is NOT going to save me?
Who's going to tell me not to touch my face?

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (v0R5T)

367 360 Patrick Hussion @PatrickHussion
12m
**BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson puts the UK on a 3-week lockdown as the virus spreads. Johnson has approved measures to ban all unnecessary movement of people. Police will break up gatherings and have the power to fine individuals who break the laws. @OANN
Posted by: Ghost Of Qassem Soleimani at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (R7lVb)

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So, the DOW is going to lose another 4% tomorrow.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (zZbCU)

368 I do kinda feel sorry for those HS seniors that missed the best time of HS there is, all the short-timer fun stuff. I think by this time most have already been accepted to college or settled on their first career attempt.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (r+sAi)

369 I think the Coronavirus was created in a fast food lab and released precisely to reach this point where fast food workers are our critical workers and their demands for a minimum wage of $15 / hr is not only met but exceeded. Evil geniuses.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (5IbVn)

370 3 people have died in Pa, 4 in Wisconsin. That is the number that counts, and shutting down a state isn't worth that price.
In a month suicides will dwarf those.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (ZCEU2)

371

Nah. ALL of their cash goes to pay for their
brand spanking new iphone. And new tablet. And Netflix. And acrylic
nails. THOSE are the necessities for the poor. At least the urban poor. Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

And tattoos. And crystal methamphetamine. And Marlboros. And fake tits. And potted meat product with Saltines.

Oh. You said "urban" poor.
Posted by: Zod


The ends of the horseshoe tend to move toward each other.

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (SFOr6)

372 So, apparently, here in Texas teachers are NOT PERMITTED to give students any additional resources to work with while they're out on their extended spring break.

Posted by: Laughing in Texas at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (ExV1e)

373 365 WH sources say Trump recalled the CDC embedded epidemiologist from beijing in July 2019, brought her into the Oval Office, plunged his hand into her chest, ripped out her heart and took a bite while it was still beating.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (dNzKv)

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Anonymous sources have confirmed it. Print it!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (zZbCU)

374 SH, so you're saying if the behavior I predicted happened, resulting in a much worse epidemic, *then* people would behave differently. Of course. I'm saying there's not a chance that, absent heavy management from above, as we're seeing, that people would actually do the necessary.

In South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, sure. For lots of reasons. Not here. Not widely, across the board.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (El6T/)

375 I am sure they won't be required to repeat this grade. That would be traumatizing.

They'll just be promoted without testing.

It's gubmint school; so, what difference does it make anyway.

Posted by: Droopy at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (XZPbq)

376 I would think we have flattened the curve by April 1 with all these shutdowns. I also think people are gonna start saying fine with social distancing and washing my hands every 3 minutes, but I am going to live my life. At some point, it has to happen anyway.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk


It's going to happen when they don't see those 50 million dead the experts predict it.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (2GjZZ)

377 >>In a month suicides will dwarf those.


Suicides were already WAAAAY out front.


Spousal Murders, though...they are about to rise.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (G2z01)

378 Fuck Fauci and the other shrieking hysterics. The Coronavirus mortality rates and all the available data do not warrant a prolonged national shutdown.

I pray re-opening the country for business is the course of action that President Trump takes. My wife is a small business owner and we are getting absolutely killed by this. And the best the government can muster in the form of "relief" are low interest loans secured by personal assets.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (p2jI/)

379 is this new?
Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (PbpT7)



Yesterday. 7:37 P.M.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (mf5HN)

380 At least New Jersey is releasing their prisoners. Not a joke.


https://tinyurl.com/wyl645p

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (bkUtD)

381 "Thank goodness our delivery service employees will continue to be fully staffed and funded and have ample buildings, vehicles, insurance, etc!"
- Bezos and other Amazon executives

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (41rs/)

382 335
>>Nah. ALL of their cash goes to pay for their

brand spanking new iphone. And new tablet. And Netflix. And acrylic

nails. THOSE are the necessities for the poor. At least the urban poor. Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:46 PM (ZCiJZ)

And tattoos. And crystal methamphetamine. And Marlboros. And fake tits. And potted meat product with Saltines.

Oh. You said "urban" poor.


Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (qXNVo)

ALL FUCKING THIS!!!!
when I taught in POBRE schools. every fucking kid got free EVERYTHING and yet somehow had Xbox and Black Friday was a huge shopping day. Oh and free food but went and got pizza a few times a week. And of course my Libard relatives are virtue signaling about delivering meals, while hard workers and businesses are are going BROKE. It makes me livid.

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (7ZMbn)

383 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

This makes sense, but if Trump said it the headline would be
TRUMP TELLS AMERICANS TO JUST TAKE VITAMIN D."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (CqE5x)

384 Senator Doug Jones has denied wearing brown lipstick, saying it's "essence of Schumer's ass."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (sWM8x)

385 365 WH sources say Trump recalled the CDC embedded epidemiologist from beijing in July 2019, brought her into the Oval Office, plunged his hand into her chest, ripped out her heart and took a bite while it was still beating.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (dNzKv)

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Anonymous sources have confirmed it. Print it!


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Stop. I'm already a fan of the President.

Posted by: SH at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (sX1BW)

386 354 >>>Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020

is this new?
Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (PbpT7)

Last night.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (cF8AT)

387 UK Police will break up gatherings and have the power to fine individuals who break the laws.

Well that will put a kink in the muslim rape gangs plans.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (r+sAi)

388 Says loss of smell could be early sign of infection,

So if the fermented piss bums in tbe hood still stink, they aint chinee lung aids'ed?

Posted by: getting the banned back together at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (Z5etP)

389 >>>Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020

is this new?
Posted by: ace

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Wow. That can't be, because she doesn't sound like the type of catholic girl Nancy would raise.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (+FPkr)

390 ChiComs: Dr Quick was recalled from beijing so that she would not raise the alarm as the US Army went around Wuhan spreading COVID.

Politifact: Mostly True

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy, ChiComTerrorVirus Exposed at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (dNzKv)

391 How is he going to pay for HIS labor? How will he pay the people that work for him? For the gas and repair of his farming machinery? I understand charity, but unless those people who want the fruits of his labor will help him plant and harvest, I see his point.
Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 04:48 PM (ZCiJZ)

I thought that's what the subsidies were for.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (5IbVn)

392 by stock market impact of high unemployment for 2020 election

Because Joe Biden is the answer to any economic problem right Joe?

Joe?

Hey somebody pinch Joe.

Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (FhXTo)

393 327 Mentioned that earlier happening in Philadelphia

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (ZCEU2)

394 We have 28 cases in my very Red State, but the government is trying to close restaurants and bars.

Posted by: Archer at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (gmo/4)

395 Are you meepin' in the years
Meepin' away the time
Are you meepin' up the tears
Have you had meeped enough of mine

Posted by: Mr. Trashbag, Shoggoth and Eater Of Toes at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (T09ml)

396 My dad, who's leaving packages outside for 24 hours, just said he's going to McDonalds.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (+0AKE)

397 Dr. Fauci wants to flatten the curve to avoid needed to make decisions about who gets extensive treatment and who does not.

OK, but do Fauci and the other docs expect flattening the curve will also reduce the area under the curve? If not, meaning a significant majority of Americans will eventually inhale some of the bugs, I can see the case for re-opening now and hoping our care facilities can handle the load of the people who inhale it AND get sick.

Death rate in the US has stayed been 1.2 - 1.3 percent over the past several days. By this weekend, the end of PDT's 15 days, we'll see what that number is. PDT and the docs may have to tell the public that there's about a 1-in-100 chance of death for most of the country no matter what we do before a vaccine is available.

The question would be: Do we go on with life as it was and have 1 percent dead, or, have 1 percent dead and a cratered economy?

Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (AMIL/)

398

Ace, you think any cucks condemned pelosi's evil spawn?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (PMDgy)

399 351

yep

looked for it

https://twitter.com/sfpelosi/status/
1241871541597437952

gonna report it to twatter as hateful

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (G546f)

400 In Andromeda Strain they found that crying kills the virus. Maybe all these governors are trying to make us cry our way out of this. Genius! I want Kate Reid with her serious glasses and James Olson sweating like a pig doing science stuff.

Posted by: banana Dream at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (l6b3d)

401 If John Hopkins map is to be believed, Italy's death rate is 10%.

The chinkie flu is basically committing genocide of the elderly population there.

Posted by: Wile E Coyote at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (+dsLj)

402 Captain Kristol tweeted some deep thoughts to Rand Paul:

"Hey @RandPaul: 'Coronavirus testing in Kentucky is still reserved for those who need it the most...Doctors are following federal guidelines that prioritize those people who have been hospitalized, those with the worst symptoms, and those who are at highest risk.'"

Rand Paul, who had pneumonia and part of a lung removed, thanks to his un-hinged lefty neighbor, tested positive for WuFlu.

But you be you, Bill.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (ptqGC)

403 The good thing about losing your sense of smell is that all of your other senses are heightened.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (G2z01)

404 Boris just locked down the UK for three weeks.
Posted by: Bert G at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (OMsf+)
.........

Now it's getting serious. No cricket matches.

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (v0R5T)

405 WH sources say Trump recalled the CDC embedded epidemiologist from beijing in July 2019, brought her into the Oval Office, plunged his hand into her chest, ripped out her heart and took a bite while it was still beating.

That's just how he says hello.

Posted by: Blanco Basura - hiding out in the secret mountain lair at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (SchxB)

406 Boris, probably well behind the curve, and blessed with a crappy health system as well. Wonderful!

Wonder if this will make the Huawei position of his government (involve them in 5G build-out) untenable - he already almost lost a vote on it in parliament last month.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (El6T/)

407 Totally agree with 290: "People are willing to sacrifice short term, and if flattening the curve or the rise or whatever we are calling it today can happen it will have happened by the end of March."

And NO to "forced quarantine" of elderly or others. We can choose for ourselves. Meanwhile obviously wash hands, probably avoid hugs and shaking hands.

Articles/tweets from Jeb! and French just proved that we dodged a bullet when neither are our current president. Praise God for that blessing!

Posted by: groovygirl at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (ybC9u)

408
How many times does the Left, the Democrats, the Fake News have to tell us they want us suffering and/or dead before we believe them?

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (PMDgy)

409 If you have a family to take care of, you've probably been everywhere. I've been to supermarkets, pharmacies, restaurants and the gun store, because you can never have enough ammo. The only place they won't let you go is to work. I have family who had a party over the weekend. Tons of food including antipasto, etc. Yet, everyone is fine because as usual, everyone practices good hygiene...

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (VpIIl)

410 Please God, let this be the start of the backlash.

I'm already voting against Gov. Parson in the primary for shutting down all the "non-essential" businesses. If there're any shenanigans on the county level, I'll vote against them too.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (Vgw1E)

411 I'm no Math Genius. But. A flatter curve just means we have a longer way to travel to get to our destination.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (G2z01)

412 At least New Jersey is releasing their prisoners. Not a joke.


https://tinyurl.com/wyl645p
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (bkUtD)
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And didn't L.A. County do this a few days ago? I know you're a cop - maybe you understands things better than I do. How is releasing prisoners going to cut down on the spread of this virus? That makes absolutely no sense to me, no matter how I slice it.

Posted by: bluebell at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (/669Q)

413 is this new?
Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (PbpT7)

Last night.
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (cF8AT)

So she endorses the brutal attack of people months ago so they don't spread AIDS now? She's bright and nice/sarc.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (WI7YS)

414 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (ZLI7S)

415 Some folks say that I'm egotistical

Hell, I don't even know what that means

I guess it has something to do

with the way that I fill out my skin tight blue jeans.

Posted by: Mac Davis at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (q1Pj5)

416 3 people have died in Pa, 4 in Wisconsin. That is the number that counts, and shutting down a state isn't worth that price.
In a month suicides will dwarf those.
Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (ZCEU2)

Also deaths from drug and alcohol, strokes and heart attacks from stress, worry, lack of exercise and being stuck in a house with your nagging spouse and bratty kids....

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (CqE5x)

417 Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi
Rand Paul's neighbor was right

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (cF8AT)
++++++++++++++
What a vicious bitch.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (e/H31)

418 SH, so you're saying if the behavior I predicted happened, resulting in a much worse epidemic, *then* people would behave differently. Of course. I'm saying there's not a chance that, absent heavy management from above, as we're seeing, that people would actually do the necessary.

In South Korea, Taiwan, Japan, sure. For lots of reasons. Not here. Not widely, across the board.
Posted by: rhomboid


If we started seeing 500 to 1000 people dying in every state across the country, yes people would behave differently. But when we're seeing less than 500 deaths out of 330 million people, people are starting to not buy the bullshit.

Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (2GjZZ)

419 gonna report it to twatter as hateful
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (G546f)


Report it to the Capitol Police, FBI and Secret Service.

Posted by: filbert at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (NiXyF)

420 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (ZLI7S)

Now the pea brains are going to think that's coming here soon.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (CqE5x)

421

If John Hopkins map is to be believed, Italy's death rate is 10%.

The chinkie flu is basically committing genocide of the elderly population there.
Posted by: Wile E Coyote


Well, refusing medical care to anyone over 60 will do that with this disease. Like I said, it is a grim calculus.

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (SFOr6)

422 UK Police will break up gatherings and have the power to fine individuals who break the laws.

In Romania they have an incredibly strict curfew. You can find video of police arresting joggers and people walking their dogs.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (wGeit)

423 Based on the current numbers, there is an easy fix.

Shut down New York, reopen the rest of the country.

Posted by: Dave in Fla at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (PHotS)

424 Confrimed. 8 hours of working from home just as boring as going into the office.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (+0AKE)

425 >>Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.


Astoundingly, their mortality rates will continue to increase.

Pension Payments, on the other hand, are poised to drop.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (G2z01)

426 at garrett-what are you Daredevil?

Posted by: pahound at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (8UwM+)

427 You know that the very second that this curve flattens or turns down, if the death toll isn't astronomical, the Dems will begin shrieking about how it is all Trumps fault for over reacting and crashing the economy.

I already catch the occasional troll snarking about how bad the markets and employment numbers are and saying it is all Trumps fault.

Some people just need a high five,
in the face,
with a brick.

Posted by: TSgt Ciz at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (af5xa)

428 411 I'm no Math Genius. But. A flatter curve just means we have a longer way to travel to get to our destination.
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (G2z01)

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The graphs that demonstrate the flatter curve have the same area under both, so the assumption is that x number of people are going to be infected/hospitalized no matter what.

If there are limited resources, then we need to try and make it so that the limited resources can be used most effectively.

I imagine it could also decrease the number of people infected in general, especially if there are temperature effects on the virus.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (zZbCU)

429 "Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi
Rand Paul's neighbor was right

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:50 PM (cF8AT)"

That's as low as her mothers boobs.

Posted by: Marcus T at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (VpIIl)

430 The downturn in the economy is estimated by some is bad enough that it
will KILL 1 - 2 MILLION Americans, because of economic hardship.
---

Hey, man, there are somethings you can replace and some you can't and now it's time to weigh between the two.
/s

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (kOpft)

431 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.

-

It's a lockdown. Nothing to do and nowhere to go.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (41rs/)

432 Mass is closed down and last I saw, only 2 deaths. I think we have the 4 th largest number of cases but there are no statistics on how many are in ICU and both people who died had serious underlying conditions.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (QzF6i)

433 I am in the at-risk brigade. I have been self isolating for a few weeks now because I realize I am in danger if I catch Kung Flu. It was *my* decision, not the government's. But just because I have a big target painted on my back doesn't mean the rest of the world should close down.

I used to take a bigger risk the years I put off getting my flu shot until flu season was over.I

This whole thing is insane and the Democrats are absolutely vile for taking shameless advantage of the situation to attempt to blackmail Cocaine Mitch and Trump. But Mitch and Trump know how to get into the mud and fight.

Posted by: Captain Josepha Sabin -- current occupation: cat furniture at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (3aySp)

434 420 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (ZLI7S)

Now the pea brains are going to think that's coming here soon.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (CqE5x)


How can you be sure it isn't? Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (wGeit)

435 y dad, who's leaving packages outside for 24 hours, just said he's going to McDonalds.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020


*
*

Best Buy is open, and I need to pick up a flash drive to back up my Mac before I upgrade to a later operating system. This is all because I have to install some software from work in order to do my work.

My point: If Best Buy is open, this is not the 1347 Black Death v. 2.0.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (rpbg1)

436 I'm no Math Genius. But. A flatter curve just means we have a longer way to travel to get to our destination.
Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (G2z01)
.........

Also: flatter curve = less boobies

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (v0R5T)

437 If we started seeing 500 to 1000 people dying in every state across the country, yes people would behave differently. But when we're seeing less than 500 deaths out of 330 million people, people are starting to not buy the bullshit.
Posted by: rickb223 at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (2GjZZ)

Also, the VAST majority of people don't know anyone with the virus--or even know someone who knows someone who has it.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (CqE5x)

438 When Trump opens America back up in a week, the Democrats and Progda are going to call him a mass murderer.

Just watch.

No matter how effective those K-paks are at curing the affected Covad patients are. Which is to say, nearly all of them.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (EL4ni)

439 414 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.

Posted by: JackStraw

I think Spain is too now

math is a heartless bitch

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:02 PM (G546f)

440 I just think it's sweet you think old people will say "why I don't mind dying, if it means people can go out to eat." /sarc

I don't think a two week pause is too damn much to ask. We are starting to see cases rise. We are trying to keep hospitals from being overloaded. And the idea that everyone is maintaining social distance and washing their hands is silly. Many people aren't.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 05:02 PM (Lqy/e)

441 420
Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.



Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (ZLI7S)



Now the pea brains are going to think that's coming here soon.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (CqE5x)
See, compassionate! Like the Dems! The Republicans would just push them over a cliff in their wheel chairs! I saw that ad!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:02 PM (e284m)

442 Last night.
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 04:55 PM (cF8AT)


You asked for it.

https://youtu.be/mHNZF7qV5Es

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 05:02 PM (Zz0t1)

443
Oh man, am I ever missing out.

Posted by: Howard Hughes at March 23, 2020 05:02 PM (t6XCL)

444 >>> gonna report it to twatter as hateful
Posted by: vmom 2020 at

Did the same. Not that I expect anything to happen. But still.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at March 23, 2020 05:02 PM (+FPkr)

445 >>But you be you, Bill. Posted by: Jane D'oh at March 23, 2020 04:57 PM (ptqGC)

There's gonna be a line to piss on his grave.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (qXNVo)

446 >>I think Spain is too now

>>math is a heartless bitch

Thus the reason to flatten the curve.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (ZLI7S)

447 Death rate in the US has stayed been 1.2 - 1.3 percent over the past several days. By this weekend, the end of PDT's 15 days, we'll see what that number is. PDT and the docs may have to tell the public that there's about a 1-in-100 chance of death for most of the country no matter what we do before a vaccine is available.

The question would be: Do we go on with life as it was and have 1 percent dead, or, have 1 percent dead and a cratered economy?
Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (AMIL/)


It isn't going to be anywhere close to a 1% death rate.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (Vgw1E)

448 >>I imagine it could also decrease the number of people infected in general, especially if there are temperature effects on the virus.


I'm guessing, again as good at virology as I am at math, that this is here for good and the same percentage of people are going to need exposure to develop a decent herd immunity.

As with any / all fu/cold/outbreak.

This thing will ramp back up in the Fall and we can't go through this 2-3 time a year, forever.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (G2z01)

449 I got a flash drive that won't plug into any USB port. It looks like nothing I have ever seen. I think its backwards or something. I'm going to take it apart one day and see what's up.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (+0AKE)

450 420
Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.



Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM (ZLI7S)



Now the pea brains are going to think that's coming here soon.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 04:59 PM (CqE5x)
The doctors can have conversations with the family to come to a decision, meanwhile the patients will be made comfortable. See?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (e284m)

451 Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?
Less hand waving?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (r+sAi)

452 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.

Hmm, well I take 10,000 IU's a day.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)

453 Since the China Virus seems to prefer hitting actors and politicians, I vote we make them all self-quarantine until forever and the rest of us get on with our lives.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (KxVoZ)

454 >>>And didn't L.A. County do this a few days ago? I know you're a cop - maybe you understands things better than I do. How is releasing prisoners going to cut down on the spread of this virus?



It won't. If anything it'll make matters worse and these clowns will be committing crimes moments after they're released.

The Philly papers had a story claiming "Crime is still rampant despite the mayor's urging for people to stay home."

Here's the thing. Empty businesses are easy pickings for criminals. Guess the pols didn't figure on that.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (bkUtD)

455 here's a question I've not seen an answer for,

how many negative tests are there?

every website shows deaths, and total number of cases. but not total number of test conducted.

what % of those tested are positive, what percentage of ALL tested are dying? what percent of positive are ending up in the hospital?

Posted by: SturmToddler at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (8D42x)

456 I think the chlorquine is a game changer though didya guys see the NYPost.article about the Florida guy who got it?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (G546f)

457 Again, but will give up here, *if* there were obvious out of control epidemic conditions, yes, many would alter their behavior, and you'd see true "panic". But on the path to that, which necessarily would involve people *not* being careful, then no, they wouldn't be. Kind of tautological.

But the Paradox of Prevention is boring and not conducive to demonstrations of virtue.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (El6T/)

458 America will put up with this for two weeks. Then we'll deal with the consequences of resuming our lives.

Posted by: IanDeal at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (vgGyZ)

459 449
I got a flash drive that won't plug into any USB port. It looks like
nothing I have ever seen. I think its backwards or something. I'm
going to take it apart one day and see what's up.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (+0AKE)

Don't do it sbt. its a trap.

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (7ZMbn)

460
Can we get something straight here.

1. Comparing this to the Flu or a Cold is not smart.

2. This Chinese Virus is a "hearty" strain, meaning it's resistant to meds.

3. This is the most important: this Chinese Virus is extremely Contagious, much more so than the Flu.

If we don't "Contain" the Chinese Virus, it will Never stop infecting us. Stopping people from mingling is the best course of action, right now.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (PMDgy)

461 >>Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?

My mother doesn't cook my meals or do my laundry.

Posted by: JackStraw at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (ZLI7S)

462 We won't have an opinion or facts to provide until Trump makes a decision so that we can advise/report that the opposite is the best option. We simply hope Trump will do the right thing and expedite his decision.

Posted by: MFM DNC BIRM at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (6eEQ+)

463 Jeb Bush....was he in Rawhide?

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (C1SGV)

464 It was good of French to put those 5 people in their place. Because I don't know anybody who is angry about not having church services. Disappointed, yes. Finding other ways to deal with it, from online services to private prayer.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (d6Ksn)

465 My prediction on the next product there will be runs on....root coverup.

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 05:04 PM (cF8AT)

466 How can you be sure it isn't? Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (wGeit)

I'm Italian-American and I know people who have family over there and I've long known--way before this virus--that Italy is a third-world country when it comes to medicine, doesn't pull out all the stops to save old people--unless they are rich or important-and they probably have 5 ventilators in the whole country and they were manufactured by FIAT.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (CqE5x)

467

Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?
Less hand waving?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk


Deodorant?

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (SFOr6)

468 452 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.

Hmm, well I take 10,000 IU's a day.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)


Wow! That's quite a lot.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (wGeit)

469 I got a flash drive that won't plug into any USB port. It looks like nothing I have ever seen. I think its backwards or something. I'm going to take it apart one day and see what's up.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020


*
*

It's from the future. Geordie LaForge was using it to stash his pr0n.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (rpbg1)

470 I see VA has closed all schools for the rest of the year. Unreal. Just...shaking my head. My elderly parents are both pissed and my mom is freaking out over all this panic crap.

We've had a few people in the area I live with the China bat flu now and our governor is an asshat here. Ugh. I am so tired of it.

I start a job next Monday and hope it's still a "GO!".

Posted by: turambar at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (Gylu/)

471 Never for a second did I fear that we wouldn't survive Chi-corona. I still don't.

It's the response to it that I'm now very concerned may destroy us.

Posted by: Citizen of Bureaustan at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (ldmQR)

472 >>Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?


I learned to walk on my hind legs without the aid of a wheelbarrow?




Posted by: garrett is 1/2 Italian at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (G2z01)

473 449
I got a flash drive that won't plug into any USB port.

==

count the pins and look it up

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (G546f)

474 466 How can you be sure it isn't? Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:01 PM (wGeit)

I'm Italian-American and I know people who have family over there and I've long known--way before this virus--that Italy is a third-world country when it comes to medicine, doesn't pull out all the stops to save old people--unless they are rich or important-and they probably have 5 ventilators in the whole country and they were manufactured by FIAT.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (CqE5x)


Northern Italy is wealthy and has quite good medical care. That's the area most affected.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (wGeit)

475 The cases are rising because testing is rising, but are hospitalizations rising?

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (r+sAi)

476 Confrimed. 8 hours of working from home just as boring as going into the office.
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at March 23, 2020 05:00 PM (+0AKE)
.........

I miss my secretary, Chesty.

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (v0R5T)

477 By this weekend, the end of PDT's 15 days, we'll see what that number is. PDT and the docs may have to tell the public that there's about a 1-in-100 chance of death for most of the country no matter what we do before a vaccine is available.

The question would be: Do we go on with life as it was and have 1 percent dead, or, have 1 percent dead and a cratered economy?

Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2020 04:56 PM (AMIL/)
-------------------------------------

If the dems are still refusing to sign on to any relief bill, then PDJT can say, look, the democrats won't help fix the economic disaster caused by the CHINESE Virus, therefore the country needs to get back to work.

Posted by: Boots at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (oGBso)

478 >>Deodorant?


Thata's only 1/2 a shower!

Posted by: garrett is 1/2 Italian at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (G2z01)

479 They should let the motherfucker burn to the ground before they give in on Pelosi's bag of shit. LET IT BURN.

Posted by: DanInMN at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (HLA5I)

480 The democrat party is evil. Nothing more to say.
While we always say the democrat party and leftists want us dead, this proves it is true.
Time for self defense and to go on the offense.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (pw+jk)

481 448 >>I imagine it could also decrease the number of people infected in general, especially if there are temperature effects on the virus.


I'm guessing, again as good at virology as I am at math, that this is here for good and the same percentage of people are going to need exposure to develop a decent herd immunity.

As with any / all fu/cold/outbreak.

This thing will ramp back up in the Fall and we can't go through this 2-3 time a year, forever.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (G2z01)

==========

No, we can't, but we should have a better picture of what the virus does at that point and more able to direct efforts instead of doing blanket things like stay in place.

The biggest thing about COVID is the fact that we just simply know so very little about it. The unknowns compile on top of each other right now to the point that people are just screaming "Do SOMETHING!"

When we get to the tail end of this first "outbreak" and see that the death rate is sub 1% and we have a good idea of what demos are most affected and require hospitalization and where those people are, systems will adapt and be able to accommodate for those better.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (zZbCU)

482 Please clap

Posted by: JEB at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (5bxa0)

483 Fuck it. Let's roll.

Posted by: cahmd at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (7PXMZ)

484

I think the chlorquine is a game changer though didya guys see the NYPost.article about the Florida guy who got it?
Posted by: vmom 2020


Yeah, and now it's on backorder (per a pharmacist) and dentists are calling in prescriptions for themselves and friends. THe pharmacist said she refused the scrip and is going to report the dentist for prescribing out of scope, but it's just the tip of the next hoarding panic.

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (SFOr6)

485 San Fran Nan's daughter Christine's tweet saying Rand Paul's neighbor was right:


https://tinyurl.com/vsdnsx3

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (N39Ws)

486 467

Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?
Less hand waving?
Posted by: Guy Mohawk

============

A whole lot less time in the sun.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (zZbCU)

487
Watch blue cities and states start to count any respiratory related death as due to the Chinese Flu

=======

According to Bill Mitchell, this is happenign with the Italy counts.

Someone with stage-4 pancreatic cancer prognosis "weeks to live" gets covid-19 and dies, they put covid-19 as cause of death.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (G51Gf)

488
It isn't going to be anywhere close to a 1% death rate.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (Vgw1E)

1 out of 100 is more than it sounds.
It will be a fraction of that.

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (CqE5x)

489 This thing will ramp back up in the Fall and we can't go through this 2-3 time a year, forever.

-

This should be a campaign platform for Democrats during every presidential election.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (41rs/)

490 VDH today in these morning links, Mr. Hanson crucified Rick Wilson and then he meeped the holy shit out of him.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (C1SGV)

491 The cases are rising because testing is rising, but are hospitalizations rising?

When case rise the % of deaths goes down

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (5bxa0)

492 Look at the numbers, We have 4 times the number of people Italy does.

Last year we lost about 67000 people to flu.

The Italians lost about the same number.

What does THAT tell you?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (e284m)

493 Sports bras flatten the curve.

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (v0R5T)

494

Thata's only 1/2 a shower!
Posted by: garrett is 1/2 Italian


Right, b/c the cologne is the other 1/2

LOL

Salud!

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (SFOr6)

495 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.

Hmm, well I take 10,000 IU's a day.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)


They're also saying take Vitamin C and maybe zinc. I think it's a little uncertain whether zinc helps on its own, or only in conjunction with one of these chloroquin drugs, but definitely the Vitamin C.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (Vgw1E)

496 "You know, all businesses are kind of essential to someone, right? That's how they make money -- someone out there needs them."

I'm thinking we should have started the closing of the MFM a long time ago. They don't make money. They aren't essential any more. We can manage without them better than we can manage with them.

So, if we're going to shut down any industry, I'd be fine with a year hiatus from the MFM to test these economic theories of managing a wild virus..

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (6eEQ+)

497
That 1% won't be static.
It's not like it'll be like a 1% cap and then stop. That's not how this works.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (PMDgy)

498 JoeF,

I know six people who were tested in the US and Canada. All were negative.

Posted by: Ernie McCracken at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (p2jI/)

499 I'm already voting against Gov. Parson in the primary for shutting down all the "non-essential" businesses. If there're any shenanigans on the county level, I'll vote against them too.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 04:58 PM
---------------------
Don't believe that's accurate. STL and STL County has. But Parson's has not made that declaration. Yet.
He's keeping schools closed, keeping us from visiting nursing homes, and eating in. But no mandatory closings.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (Dhht7)

500 489 This thing will ramp back up in the Fall and we can't go through this 2-3 time a year, forever.


Should have a vaccine by then
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Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (5bxa0)

501 492 Look at the numbers, We have 4 times the number of people Italy does.

Last year we lost about 67000 people to flu.

The Italians lost about the same number.

What does THAT tell you?
Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (e284m)

==========

That single payer is awesome and leads to less death. Duh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (zZbCU)

502 BREAKING: Dr. Fauci is warning Trump officials NOT to listen to growing
push among WH advisers, GOP lawmakers to restart the economy

I'll say it one more time, and then I'm done for the evening. Because I'm borderline doing the same shit the panic mongers are doing. So this is it for the day.

We have civilian oversight of the military precisely because generals, left to their own devices, would do nothing other than fight wars. Rare is the general that will ever recommend "let it go, not worth it". Generals are almost always going to look at a fight and tell you how they can win it.

Fauci is a prime example of why doctors shouldn't be unsupervised either. Left alone with power, Fauci will rid the world of disease - and make it miserable to live in as a result.

Experts know their individual trees to the finest detail. But trust me - they don't see the forest the slightest bit better than any of the rest of us. Act accordingly.

Enjoy your evening.
Posted by: I Am No One at March 23, 2020 04:33 PM (rUpwv)

One of the most direct analysis I've read in a while. Absolutely correct and concise, thanks.

Posted by: Jen the original at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (4ywJ2)

503 Northern Italy is wealthy and has quite good medical care. That's the area most affected.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (wGeit)
-------------------

According to info published over the weekend, Italy has the fewest hospital beds, fewest ICU beds, fewest ventilators, fewest doctors, fewest of everything that makes for a 1st world medical system. They lag behind every other country in Western Europe, including the Brits. They have less than half the capacity on a per capita basis than Germany.

Posted by: Boots at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (oGBso)

504 You know, it's nasty hot here, but it's relatively dry -- again, for here. I just went out to my car, which I have parked in the sun and away from the leaves and pollen, and dusted her off with a soft towel. During the real humid heat, dust sticks to the paint, and only washing gets the car clean.

Just an observation. Go on with what you were doing.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (rpbg1)

505
Please clap
Posted by: JEB at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (5bxa0)






Wrong disease.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (EGyGV)

506 6 Seems like

QUARANTINE THOSE MOST AT-RISK AND LET THE REST OF US PRACTICE GREAT CAUTION

really might be the proper way of going forward.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:21 PM (xptlg)

This should have been the response from the git-go.

Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (w+Ped)

507 At least New Jersey is releasing their prisoners. Not a joke.





https://tinyurl.com/wyl645p
---
That will certainly improve life expectancy in the state.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (kOpft)

508
let the deaths be upon Nancy Pelosi's and Charles Schumer's heads.

=======

Pretty sure ace doesn't mean this. We need to do something well beforehand.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (G51Gf)

509 Wow! That's quite a lot.

doctors orders. I was severely lacking.

Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (dUJdY)

510 Please clap
Posted by: JEB at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (5bxa0)


Please hibernate.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (Zz0t1)

511 Dagan bitchslapping Juan like a ragdoll. That's all I needed. Back to OANN.

Posted by: BluesFish at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (Eh6LC)

512 Hmm, well I take 10,000 IU's a day.
Posted by: Jewells45 at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (dUJdY)

Wow! That's quite a lot.


Then again, we would say, when looking at the USDA's RDA, "Wow! That's hardly any."

Posted by: t-bird at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (98WNR)

513 My buddy's small accounting business is a mess now. Hes cancelled surgery and trip abroad later in the year. Than someone tried to break into his offices last night for the hardware he thinks because everyone is trying to work remotely. Cut the power but the alarm is on a separate line. Cutting the power fucked up his programs (auto-spell said "orgasms" gees) somehow. hes dealing with that today.

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (7ZMbn)

514 Were the Dems planning ahead much?
How the fuck did they come up with 1400 pages of pork for the Bill?
Gawd I hate those people.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (axyOa)

515 It isn't going to be anywhere close to a 1% death rate.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (Vgw1E)


I agree. Problem is, we don't have enough data yet to really know the death rate of people who inhale some of the coronavirus. Critical decisions made in the next week or two will have to be made on estimates using available data. I can accept that; how much of our safety-at-all-costs population will? I hope almost all.

Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (AMIL/)

516 Martian Operation Bug Spray:
"Sire, the humanicide is working, but it is extraordinarily slow."
"We have the luxury of time. Are they killing each other yet?"
"No, not yet. They are hoarding items, though."
"What items, specifically?"
"It is called 'toilet paper.' It is a sanitary product."
"Proving yet again that they are worthy of extermination."
"Just so, Sire."

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (qXNVo)

517
That single payer is awesome and leads to less death. Duh.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (zZbCU)
ObamaCare WORKS! YES! (no.....)

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (e284m)

518 Tom Cotton has a list too of all the crap in Pelosi's bill:

https://tinyurl.com/wjpx774

Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (cF8AT)

519 I miss my secretary, Chesty.


===


And your receptionist, Ms. Onatopp.

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (zr5Kq)

520 Hmmm, all the local and national media who want me to stay home are still trying to sell me shirt. I has the confuseds.

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (2ygtH)

521 Just checked and actually 777 confirmed and 9 deaths.
This was interesting though:under 19 yrs old - 19 cases
20-29 yrs -115 cases
30-39 yrs-132 cases
40-49 yrs=152 case50-59 yrs-141 cases
60-69 yrs-111 cases
70+ - 107 cases

90 cases related to the Biogen conference. 777 cases almost equally divided between men and women, 6 out of 9 deaths were men.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (QzF6i)

522 >>>That will certainly improve life expectancy in the state.



Phil Murphy may be the worst governor in America. Makes Cuomo seem rational.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (bkUtD)

523 this is a story about a man in real bad shape from ChinaPlague ... doctors never recommended to CQ treatment, he asked about it after learning from another source. Doc warned against it .. but he got it anyway. Completely healed a day later, after saying goodbye to loved ones, he was in such bad shape.


So even if it was a cure, death rate might continue to climb if doctors are warning against it, even if a patient brings it up. What are they, all Democrats trying to run up a body count, or just playing it safe with "normal drugs"?


But there are no normal drugs for this, nothing but guesses. Just seems weird they'd watch him die and offer no alternatives ... to whatever they were trying that was not working.

https://tinyurl.com/s3byo2p

Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (Cus5s)

524 476
I miss my secretary, Chesty.

And the office cleaning lady, Dusty

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (KxVoZ)

525 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.

-

Also eggs are bad for you. And coffee is good for you now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (41rs/)

526 When we get to the tail end of this first "outbreak" and see that the death rate is sub 1% and we have a good idea of what demos are most affected and require hospitalization and where those people are, systems will adapt and be able to accommodate for those better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (zZbCU)


We'll also have a better idea of what treatments are effective, and we'll be able to spin up more ICU capacity if that looks to be necessary. Part of the problem here is a couple months isn't enough time to react to something like this, so even assuming we don't get a vaccine and don't find effective treatments, next year we'll be better prepared.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (wGeit)

527 QUARANTINE THOSE MOST AT-RISK AND LET THE REST OF US PRACTICE GREAT CAUTION

really might be the proper way of going forward.
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at March 23, 2020 04:21 PM (xptlg)

This should have been the response from the git-go.
Posted by: The Federal Reserve at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (w+Ped)


Too many Americans are dumb as fuck and this would fail epically.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

528 Northern Italy is wealthy and has quite good medical care. That's the area most affected.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:05 PM (wGeit)

It's better than Sicily and the Boot, but no where near us when it comes to First World Care.

Also, Milan was a huge infection point because of all the Chinese they import to make "Fine Italian Goods" so Gucci and others can say "Made in Italy" and not "Made in China."

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (CqE5x)

529 drugs, but definitely the Vitamin C.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (Vgw1E)

Look into 'Airborne' brand vitamin supplement. I've used it when I travel and it really seemed to knock down the incidence of me getting sick when travelling.

Posted by: ghbucky at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (s9Eo8)

530

Were the Dems planning ahead much?
How the fuck did they come up with 1400 pages of pork for the Bill?
Gawd I hate those people.
Posted by: Diogenes


The Green Nude Eel just needed a stapler.

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (SFOr6)

531 shirt/shit it's all the same

Posted by: Some rat in the swamp at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (2ygtH)

532 >>Cutting the power fucked up his programs (auto-spell said "orgasms" gees) somehow. hes dealing with that today. Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (7ZMbn)

Now Hiring: Computer Orgasmers.

Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (qXNVo)

533 That WashPo photo --- it's been photoshopped with that filter that exaggerates texture. It makes Trump look like he's had decades of really bad acne.

Posted by: Emmie at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (ouBhA)

534 David French knows all about the distinction between recklessness and courage but nothing about the distinction between bravery and cowardice.

Posted by: Garthe Knight at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (el849)

535 Italy is now denying ventilators

Are ventilators helping anyone or are they just taking longer to die?

Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (FhXTo)

536 The best part is it wasn't even about Rick Wilson. Mr Hanson happen to be driving by and he saw this terrible pinkness.....so Hanson shot him ....so there.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (C1SGV)

537 FIRST!!!
Posted by: Ladyl

Lookit YOU !

Posted by: JT at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (arJlL)

538 The Dems are running this to the ground and don't give a crap.

They know the longer they hold out the worse it will be.

Cruz is killing it.

Posted by: golfman at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (hOMhY)

539 Another moron posted this duplicate for the one taken down by TPTB on looking at the Chinese Wuhan virus rationally. Here it is again.
https://tinyurl.com/wmhyx3j
Yes it does go to Zero Hedge but is identical to the previous one on Western

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (pw+jk)

540 500
489 This thing will ramp back up in the Fall and we can't go through this 2-3 time a year, forever.





Should have a vaccine by then

-

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 05:08 PM (5bxa0)
But the virus mutates. Every mutation is a new vaccine. Currently there are "L" and "S" mutations of this virus. They are already expecting a third to evolve.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (N39Ws)

541 1 out of 100 is more than it sounds.
It will be a fraction of that.
Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (CqE5x)


One government estimate floating around last night was 400,000 deaths, which would be 0.15% if we're being generous.

I doubt it will get even that high. Tens of thousands? Quite possible. Hundreds of thousands? Unlikely at best.

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (Vgw1E)

542 525
CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.



-



Also eggs are bad for you. And coffee is good for you now.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - won't somebody think of the chyron?!! at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (41rs/)
Eat lots and lots of carbs!

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (e284m)

543 526 When we get to the tail end of this first "outbreak" and see that the death rate is sub 1% and we have a good idea of what demos are most affected and require hospitalization and where those people are, systems will adapt and be able to accommodate for those better.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:06 PM (zZbCU)

We'll also have a better idea of what treatments are effective, and we'll be able to spin up more ICU capacity if that looks to be necessary. Part of the problem here is a couple months isn't enough time to react to something like this, so even assuming we don't get a vaccine and don't find effective treatments, next year we'll be better prepared.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (wGeit)

==========

And, we won't have a biased as hell data set that's purely focused on people self-reporting symptoms as a base for the testing from which to derive all newspaper headlines.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (zZbCU)

544 So what does the Jebpedo mean by servant leadership. They do what they dam well please and dont listen to the constituents anyhow.

Posted by: morigu at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (Eu98u)

545

Too many Americans are dumb as fuck and this would fail epically.
Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (Zz0t1)

Yeah, but to be sure, do you really think these stupid fucks are doing all the right things NOW?

Posted by: JoeF. at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (CqE5x)

546 Look, I need some definitive dates for my Olympic events. You have to stop doing PEDs at just the right moment to get full effect, without getting caught.

Posted by: Every Olympic Athlete at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (xPYsj)

547 Keep urban blue America shut down. Keep rural red America open. Shut down unnecessary Federal functions and shunt the money to relief.

Posted by: TD at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (bI7cJ)

548 I heard the guys on the ground in Vietnam were given that malaria drug.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (oUnSf)

549 When you put a infectious disease specialist in charge your going to get every safeguard and precaution suggestion that expert can imagine as well as what he can dream up as the worse possible scenario.
But then find a statistician to tell you past disease performance and what that predicted.
But then weigh all that with what can be done now.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (ZCEU2)

550 >>> Sports bras flatten the curve.
Posted by: wth

Sadly, this true.

Fortunately, it is balanced out by yoga pants.

Posted by: 6-4-3 Turn Two at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (+FPkr)

551 Right now, women are required to stay indoors and not come within 6 feet of men not in their family.

Where are all the Handmaid's Tale people now ???

Posted by: McCool at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (sZaoP)

552 Is denying ventilators like denying the works of the un-believers?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (e284m)

553 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.

---

Well, the have to keep their resources applied to those who really need the, like their imported Chinese workforce.

Posted by: Methos at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (kOpft)

554 >>>Too many Americans are dumb as fuck and this would fail epically.


My ears are burning.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (bkUtD)

555 https://tinyurl.com/s3byo2p
Posted by: illiniwek at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (Cus5s)

Saw that this morning.

My friend went home after the same treatment.

ICU THU night. Home SUN.

Posted by: golfman at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (hOMhY)

556 >>>379 is this new?
Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (PbpT7)


Yesterday. 7:37 P.M.


wow. but if I said something similar about Pelosi, I'd get the feds on me, right? And deplatformed?

Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (PbpT7)

557 547 Keep urban blue America shut down. Keep rural red America open. Shut down unnecessary Federal functions and shunt the money to relief.
Posted by: TD at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (bI7cJ)

==========

Universities.

Send the students home.

Lock the professors in their offices.

Lock the administrators in one room with no food and a handful of broken pool cues.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (zZbCU)

558 I miss the office manager, Ordera Le Pens

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (KxVoZ)

559 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance.




Vitamin D ?

*runt out and stands in sunlight without 140 SPF

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (zr5Kq)

560 It isn't going to be anywhere close to a 1% death rate.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (Vgw1E)

On the Diamond Princess, 20% got infected and 1% died. However, that was a bunch of people confined to an enclosed space and their average ages were older than the general US population.

So, no, not 1%.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (d6Ksn)

561 Apparently Italy is now denying ventilators to any patient over 65 and just sedating them.


In America, what % of over 65 own firearms? Just sayin'

2nd look at paperless ccw, outlaw style?

Bcuz reasons.

Posted by: getting the old banned back together at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (WaH0h)

562 And need I remind you some larger than should be segment of our population STOPPED drinking Corona BEER because of Corona Virus.

For
Realz

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (e284m)

563 Shutdown ends on the 30th.

Fauci resigns on the 31st.


Quislings gotta go.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (zlgJP)

564 Right now, women are required to stay indoors and not come within 6 feet of men not in their family.

Where are all the Handmaid's Tale people now ???
Posted by: McCool at March




This is how women are going to evolve very long arms and tongues

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (HALdu)

565 >>> Right now, women are required to stay indoors and not come within 6 feet of men not in their family



I call those days "weekdays."

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (bkUtD)

566 OK, Coonman.

I'm meeting some people later. There will be 12 of us.

Going to haul us off to jail.....?

Posted by: WitchDoktor, turns out a lot of people give a damn! at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (w2QL7)

567 556
>>>379 is this new?

Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 04:53 PM (PbpT7)





Yesterday. 7:37 P.M.





wow. but if I said something similar about Pelosi, I'd get the feds on me, right? And deplatformed?





Posted by: ace at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (PbpT7)
Ace - see my post above. I also have a screen capture of it for when it is deleted.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (N39Ws)

568 But the virus mutates. Every mutation is a new vaccine. Currently there are "L" and "S" mutations of this virus. They are already expecting a third to evolve.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (N39Ws)
++++++++++++++
And there is also no rule that the next mutation will be better or worse than the ones identified. Per my decidedly non-expert understanding (and feel free to correct me if this not right), it also does not mean that a vaccine will be ineffective post-mutation as it might be partially effective as the antibodies can do something against the new strain, even if it means you still get it.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (e/H31)

569 President Trump's ace is the widespread admin of chloroquine. He knows it will help us. It's war. We are all soldiers in this. Crush Chiinah.

Posted by: azalea city at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (WX+x0)

570 548 Every week, under corpsman supervision.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (C1Lsn)

571 I miss the office manager, Ordera Le Pens


==

...Project manager Vera Handy, very helpful....

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (zr5Kq)

572 535 Italy is now denying ventilators

Are ventilators helping anyone or are they just taking longer to die?
Posted by: DaveA at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (FhXTo)


Ventilators help quite a bit. As a general rule, if they want to put you on a ventilator and you don't get it, you're pretty much dead. If you get one your odds are something like 70%.

The odds might be slightly different for COVID-19 specifically, but I'd bet money they're better and not worse.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (wGeit)

573 Back in the Day when I ditched municipal water(had a water well drilled), put in enough solar panels to completely power my home and then some, put in a garden, started raising chickens , keeping bees was buying guns, crates of ammo, gold coins and silver bars like they were going out of style people around here thought I was either crazy or stupid.

Right about now I'm looking like Albert Einstein or Nostradamus.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (cCxiu)

574
wow. but if I said something similar about Pelosi, I'd get the feds on me, right? And deplatformed?

Posted by: ace


Democrats are a protected class.
And the Feds are cocksuckers.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 05:16 PM (PMDgy)

575 Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right
Posted by: Tami


Another great mind reveals great thoughts on Twitter.

People in glass houses, shouldn't throw stones, because someone might get the wrong idea and take this into their own hands.

Smart thinking out there. Glad Twitter exists to expose the imbeciles among us.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 23, 2020 05:16 PM (vcOmj)

576 I Am No One: "Experts know their individual trees to the finest detail. But trust me - they don't see the forest the slightest bit better than any of the rest of us. Act accordingly."

Yep. On a micro level, they'll be perfect; on a macro one, they'll be worse than average on "things".

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at March 23, 2020 05:16 PM (6eEQ+)

577 485
San Fran Nan's daughter Christine's tweet saying Rand Paul's neighbor was right:


https://tinyurl.com/vsdnsx3


Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:07 PM (N39Ws)

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:16 PM (N39Ws)

578 But the virus mutates. Every mutation is a new vaccine. Currently there are "L" and "S" mutations of this virus. They are already expecting a third to evolve.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (N39Ws)


Coronavirus is one of the virus families that cause the common cold. We see mutations of this every year.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:17 PM (wGeit)

579 Tom Cotton has a list too of all the crap in Pelosi's bill:

https://tinyurl.com/wjpx774
Posted by: Tami at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (cF8AT)


The comments are largely retarded.

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 05:17 PM (Zz0t1)

580 575 Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi

Rand Paul's neighbor was right
Posted by: Tami

Sounds like a threat to me

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 05:17 PM (5bxa0)

581
My friend went home after the same treatment.

ICU THU night. Home SUN.
Posted by: golfman

I've been yelling at the twatter lefties who are claiming that chloroquine is scary dangerous untested
to please promise never to take it if they get the china virus
strangely enuf, no one's promised

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:17 PM (G546f)

582 WA state has 31k tests with 94% negative.

Posted by: Not Voting Our Way Out Of This at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (fNWtj)

583 I agree. Problem is, we don't have enough data yet to really know the death rate of people who inhale some of the coronavirus. Critical decisions made in the next week or two will have to be made on estimates using available data. I can accept that; how much of our safety-at-all-costs population will? I hope almost all.
Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2020 05:10 PM (AMIL/)


From everything I've read, only about 20% of the passengers on that Diamond Princess cruise ship got infected with the virus despite near-optimal breeding conditions, meaning that infection must be a lot less likely than we've been led to believe. So even that 1% death rate, if it is accurate at all, has to be taken out of the 20% of the population who actually gets the virus.

So we're talking maybe 0.2% of the population, max. Which isn't nothing, but does it justify running a previously-strong economy into a brick wall?

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (Vgw1E)

584
Lock the administrators in one room with no food and a handful of broken pool cues.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:13 PM (zZbCU)

And turn out the lights, just to make it fair.

Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (+0uDE)

585 This should be done on a county by county basis coordinated between federal, state, and local officials. Stop laughing....

Posted by: it begins... at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (lBCgE)

586
WOW: Sen. Tom Cotton's 'MUST READ' thread just made Nancy Pelosi's coronavirus stimulus demands even MORE enraging.

https://tinyurl.com/t2eflgt

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (wiXsO)

587
Expect to hear "the new normal" and "Trump's America."

Certainly do not expect to hear "America Strong."

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (PMDgy)

588 This is an easy solution -
Have Trump give a national speech that if the Democrats don't give him a clean funding bill to help save and fund the country and unemployed in this time of need and would rather play politics with people's lives - then he'll have no choice but to lift the restrictions and let the people get back to work.

Posted by: Skywise at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (SooCM)

589 TMJ and Ace's liver with valuable common sense reminders.

And experts aren't the problem - they're support, sometimes vital support, but don't make the decisions. As JackStraw said earlier today, he hired Trump to make these kinds of decisions.

In fact there was congressional testimony during this brouhaha that the original, key decision on stopping admissions from China (travel ban) was taken by Trump *against* the expert advice.

DHS acting deputy Cuccinelli brought the expert reco to Trump, which was that travel ban not yet needed. Cuccinelli said he disagreed, thought it prudent to start ban. Trump agreed. Voila. Key correct decision made.

This account should be fleshed out and then put out officially by the WH, as background info. Trump rightly touts this decision every press briefing, time to add details to it. Can be done without appearing to diss the experts, who are valuable assets - just not the decision-makers.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (El6T/)

590
Were the Dems planning ahead much?
How the fuck did they come up with 1400 pages of pork for the Bill?
Gawd I hate those people.
Posted by: Diogenes at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (axyOa)





Cut/paste from Word fucks up a lot more than Pixy...

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (EGyGV)

591 "
370 3 people have died in Pa, 4 in Wisconsin. That is the number that counts, and shutting down a state isn't worth that price.
In a month suicides will dwarf those.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (ZCEU2) "


And our commie s#itbird governor has put the state on lockdown.

*spits*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (zlgJP)

592 Again, I invite you to read this article Mark Levin read on his show last Friday, from someone who doesn't have the Medieval Vapors thinking this is Black Plague 2: Electric Boogaloo:

https://tinyurl.com/Fiasco-in-the-M

By JOHN P.A. IOANNIDIS



And for those who roaring fireplaces, soft kisses, fluffy bunnies and NOT making decisions by consulting the entrails of chickens, the latest CDC Numbers:

Cases of Yellow Peril (tested): 33,404
Deaths by Yellow Peril (tested): 400
Death Rate: 1.197 percent (was 1.39 on Friday last week).

Regular Flu Tests Completed: 1,203,447
Regular Flu Positive Tests: 272,493
Regular Flu Pos. Test Percent: 22.65 percent
Regular Flu Deaths: 23,000
Regular Flu Death Rate: 10 percent.
(Note that CDC says death rate for regular flu is 7.1 percent in another place on their site).

The Yellow Peril is really more of a Yellow Inconvenience for everyone except for the people who are already dying by the much more virulent "regular" flu.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (N1kno)

593 580
575 Christine Pelosi@sfpelosi



Rand Paul's neighbor was right

Posted by: Tami



Sounds like a threat to me

Posted by: It's me donna at March 23, 2020 05:17 PM (5bxa0)
She obviously meant his neighbor lived on his right. That's very clear. This business of thinking she meant something else, something harmful, that's not who we are!

Posted by: Bill Krystal at March 23, 2020 05:18 PM (e284m)

594 And I miss the HR Manager: Miles O'Redtape

Posted by: Guy Smiley at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (KxVoZ)

595 This thing will ramp back up in the Fall and we can't go through this 2-3 time a year, forever.

Posted by: garrett at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (G2z01)

Hopefully we will have a vaccine in the near future.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (5IbVn)

596 532
>>Cutting the power fucked up his programs (auto-spell said
"orgasms" gees) somehow. hes dealing with that today. Posted by:
Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 05:09 PM (7ZMbn)

Now Hiring: Computer Orgasmers.


Posted by: Zod at March 23, 2020 05:11 PM (qXNVo)

Lol. thought we had those. But Im sure it fucked up his orgasms.

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (7ZMbn)

597

On the Diamond Princess, 20% got infected and 1% died. However, that was a bunch of people confined to an enclosed space and their average ages were older than the general US population.

So, no, not 1%.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V


There are two strains. An olympic athlete (swimmer) just had it and was floored for a few days. I can imagine if he was less of a perfect specimen, it might have gone badly.

We shouldn't minimize the seriousness of the disease, but we sure as hell need to balance the risk versus the damage that blanket preventative measures are doing to our society. Governments are going to open things up or we are going to have insurrections.

Posted by: imp at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (SFOr6)

598 Roger Kimball wrote about this very thing

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/362377/

Posted by: steevy at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (KNsKs)

599 The wife of some dickhead my family member works with tested positive for the Coronavirus. That means anyone who came into contact with him is quarantined. However Mr Dickhead is refusing to be tested, so I let him know his life depends on it, in more ways than one. Let's see what happens.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, direct fire! at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (wElh/)

600
"I don't think a two week pause is too damn much to ask. We are starting to see cases rise. We are trying to keep hospitals from being overloaded. And the idea that everyone is maintaining social distance and washing their hands is silly. Many people aren't."

Well, part of the problem is we were told a two week pause. Our governor just last night shut down the State until May 15.

Posted by: RM at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (U3LtS)

601 From everything I've read, only about 20% of the passengers on that Diamond Princess cruise ship got infected with the virus despite near-optimal breeding conditions, meaning that infection must be a lot less likely than we've been led to believe.

Why do you assume these were optimal conditions? I have to believe once they figured out what was going on the passengers were sequestered in their cabins.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (wGeit)

602 Our governor just last night shut down the State until May 15.
Posted by: RM at March 23, 2020 05:19 PM (U3LtS)

which state?

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (G546f)

603 For those of you working from home, the techs at my company won't enter residences. They'll check outside. We are quarantining incoming packages and telling customers to try equipment away rather than returning it. They are restricting the office to five employees and it's closed to walkins. Even cash payments are quarantined. The county had its first diagnosed case this week.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (Lqy/e)

604 Fauci was around in the Obama years, correct? If yes, why didn't he shut down the country when 12,000+ died of swine flu?

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (ZCiJZ)

605 But the virus mutates. Every mutation is a new vaccine. Currently there are "L" and "S" mutations of this virus. They are already expecting a third to evolve.
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (N39Ws)

The family tree is impressive. Also why there has never been a vaccine for cold viruses. Maybe quantum computers can figure it out.

Posted by: it begins... at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (lBCgE)

606 Sign the bill or your brains will .

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (C1SGV)

607 On the Diamond Princess, 20% got infected and 1% died. However, that was a bunch of people confined to an enclosed space and their average ages were older than the general US population.

So, no, not 1%.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V


In many ways, the Diamond Princess example was a good sliver cross section of the "worst case".
Confined on ship, a skewed population in terms of age, and waiting for the disease to run its course.

Add to that the mortality from Covid 19 among those younger than 15 years old is just about Zero, then the risk is actually pretty low for the whole population.
As the weather across the nature warms, the virus impact will diminish.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....lost in America at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (vcOmj)

608 Norm MacDonald is giving up eating bat but he says it's not that hard thanks to Impossible Bat.

I swapped over to "I Can't Believe Its Not Bat"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (KZzsI)

609 Et tu Fauci?

Posted by: xnycpeasant at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (lcQJG)

610 So, to all the Dems out there talking about the bill in the Senate "only benefiting CEO's and Corporations," have you read Nancy's bill?

Posted by: Sponge at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (Zz0t1)

611 Apparently there wasn't enough food buying hysteria so the blue state governments are aiming for a complete lock down to ensure the panic continues.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (e284m)

612 Good news is we're all alive.

Bad news is we're all gonna starve.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (SENHs)

613 Fauci looks in the mirror now and sees Paul Newman. He never wants this to end.

Posted by: Cannibal Slob at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (7ZMbn)

614 So what does the Jebpedo mean by servant leadership. They do what they dam well please and dont listen to the constituents anyhow.
Posted by: morigu at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (Eu98u)

They mean that "you" servants should gratefully accept "their" leadership in all things...

Same as in town!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March 23, 2020 05:21 PM (BiNEL)

615 "These people know that we'll eventually starve, right?"

You ask that like it is a bad thing.

Posted by: Pol Pot at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (puu6v)

616 However Mr Dickhead is refusing to be tested




why ?

Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (zr5Kq)

617 Ace, yes they would shut you down, pronto.

You're not Progda.

Simple as that


And to think that there are people who still believe that we're voting our way out of this.

Not you, Ace. You know better.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (EL4ni)

618 NOOD Pelosi

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (bkUtD)

619 Why do you assume these were optimal conditions? I have to believe once
they figured out what was going on the passengers were sequestered in
their cabins.


Well, people are right on top of each other, even though they are sequestered. And China says the disease can be transmitted through things like heating/cooling ducts, so yeah, I'd say the ship had ideal breeding conditions.

Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (ZCiJZ)

620 nood

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (zZbCU)

621 I've been yelling at the twatter lefties who are claiming that chloroquine is scary dangerous untested
to please promise never to take it if they get the china virus
strangely enuf, no one's promised
Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:17 PM (G546f)
**************
If they were traveling to Africa they would be prescribed this for the prevention of malaria.

Posted by: redridinghood at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (wiXsO)

622 The piece of Rand Paul's lung that had to be removed after his neighbor attacked him thinks Christine Pelosi is a laff riot.

Posted by: JuJuBee at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (COzlW)

623
Why do you assume these were optimal conditions? I have to believe once they figured out what was going on the passengers were sequestered in their cabins.
Posted by: Ace's liver

=======

For details, see "Diamond Princess Mysteries" at Watts Up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (G51Gf)

624 Rand Paul has no symptoms but tested positive. More than a few of positive tests like this. Makes me think we are getting a number of false positives.

Posted by: Kilroy wasn't here at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (5IbVn)

625 Skywise with, I think, possibly exactly the right idea.

The Dem's irresponsible vandalism here is beyond anything previously seen in recent times, worse even than the Senate Dems on the first Gulf War.

Trump obviously/correctly looking for a "bipartisan" approach to this, which (kind of incredibly) remains his default.

Things have changed.

This is far sharper and more consequential and vastly more understood and high-profile than the Kavanaugh vote, for example.

Time to make every House Trump-district Dem and a few Senate Dem incumbents up for re-election walk the plank. Their "leadership" has set this up.

Make it known to everyone that they are forcing him to choose between the livelihoods of tens of millions, and the health/lives of millions, and the diversity of corporate boards, and the carbon emissions of airliners.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (El6T/)

626 An olympic athlete (swimmer) just had it and was floored for a few days. I can imagine if he was less of a perfect specimen, it might have gone badly.

==

here's my entirely unscientifical pondering - Olympic swimmer has bigger lungs (and heart) than us normies, right?
Does that mean he fares worse from a virus attacking his lungs?
so many questions

Posted by: vmom 2020 at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (G546f)

627



noood

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (PMDgy)

628 So what does the Jebpedo mean by servant leadership. They do what they dam well please and dont listen to the constituents anyhow.
Posted by: morigu at March 23, 2020 05:12 PM (Eu98u)

They mean that "you" servants should gratefully accept "their" leadership in all things...

Same as in town!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at March




philosopher kings, gracing everybody with the benefit of their wisdom and receiving nothing more than the right to make everybody do as they say.

Posted by: not so at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (HALdu)

629 Our largest county shuts down today at 5 pm. Jefferson county has closed all 'non essential' businesses.

Basically putting hundreds of thousands of people out of work.

Posted by: AlaBAMA at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (SENHs)

630 560 It isn't going to be anywhere close to a 1% death rate.
Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:03 PM (Vgw1E)

On the Diamond Princess, 20% got infected and 1% died. However, that was a bunch of people confined to an enclosed space and their average ages were older than the general US population.

So, no, not 1%.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 05:14 PM (d6Ksn)


Right. One way to get semi-meaningful data the public will accept, soon, is get a lot of volunteers to inhale the bugs and see what happens to them. I believe we'd get the volunteers; would the docs and politicians agree to such an experiment?

Posted by: Gref at March 23, 2020 05:23 PM (AMIL/)

631 nood !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (zlgJP)

632
Well our govenuh, His Excellency Henruh McMastuh, has just granted law enfohcment, ah say, ah say, has granted law enfohcment the authoriteh, ah say, ah say, AUTHORITEH to break up gatherins of 3 or mo people.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (rCwaK)

633 Why do you assume these were optimal conditions? I have to believe once they figured out what was going on the passengers were sequestered in their cabins.

By the time they figured out what was happening it was too late to do that. Everyone would have shared are, eating spaces, chairs, touching, etc. It would have been everywhere, on every surface, in everyone.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (KZzsI)

634 "But Trump is alarmed by stock market & impact of high unemployment for 2020 election -..."

FU, WaPo. Unsourced editorialism to make Trump look political. What he's "alarmed by" is a crashing economy and its effects on PEOPLE. You know, those stupid Americans out there in the hinterlands.

And f*ck you, Dr. Fauci, you unctuous preening little backstabber.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (H8QX8)

635 Aggressive testing, tracing, tracking, enforced quantities and penalties, shut down borders and non essential travel, supply of masks and PPE for health care workers and the population, social distancing, free testing, more hospital beds, working from home, free health care, paid leave, : this has been the South Korean model since late January

We are 2 months late and counting.

Posted by: it begins... at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (lBCgE)

636 Why do you assume these were optimal conditions? I have to believe once they figured out what was going on the passengers were sequestered in their cabins.
Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:20 PM (wGeit)


But they're still hooked into the same HVAC system, and this virus has a proven history of being viable for a long time in the air. And before they figured it out, we're talking close quarters, with communal dining rooms and such. It's much more favorable conditions than we would have in day-to-day life (unless in a close-packed city like NYC).

Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (Vgw1E)

637 Well, people are right on top of each other, even though they are sequestered. And China says the disease can be transmitted through things like heating/cooling ducts, so yeah, I'd say the ship had ideal breeding conditions.
Posted by: shibumi at March 23, 2020 05:22 PM (ZCiJZ)


If the "six foot zone" is helpful, it's not getting transmitted through air conditioning. From what I can tell, the primary mode of transmission is contact with an infected person or surface.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:25 PM (wGeit)

638 ...Project manager Vera Handy, very helpful....
Posted by: runner at March 23, 2020 05:15 PM (zr5Kq)
.........

Where does she give them, the break room?

Posted by: wth at March 23, 2020 05:25 PM (v0R5T)

639
632
Well our govenuh, His Excellency Henruh McMastuh, has just granted law enfohcment, ah say, ah say, has granted law enfohcment the authoriteh, ah say, ah say, AUTHORITEH to break up gatherins of 3 or mo people.

Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (rCwaK)

"Youths" call it what it is. But muh racism!! The "youths" are not giving a shit about listening to officials and scientists so we all have to suffer now.

Posted by: it begins... at March 23, 2020 05:26 PM (lBCgE)

640 Dems disappointed with the death toll will blame Trump.

Posted by: klaftern at March 23, 2020 05:26 PM (RuIsu)

641 But they're still hooked into the same HVAC system, and this virus has a proven history of being viable for a long time in the air. And before they figured it out, we're talking close quarters, with communal dining rooms and such. It's much more favorable conditions than we would have in day-to-day life (unless in a close-packed city like NYC).
Posted by: Dr. T at March 23, 2020 05:24 PM (Vgw1E)


You have to be a little careful here. When they say it's viable for a long time in the air, they mean exposed to air. When you cough or sneeze the virus is attached to mucus droplets, and those will get deposited on the surfaces around you.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 05:27 PM (wGeit)

642 Cancellation of USPS debt was put in by the Dems into Pelosi's bill? RUFKM? Hey, my dad is USPS retired postmaster, but what in the name of all that is Holy does the USPS have to do with COVID-19?
Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at March 23, 2020 04:27 PM (N39Ws)

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Never Let A Crisis Go To Waste! - Democrat Party Motto

I so hope Trump comes out guns blazing on this unadulterated Bull Shit!

"Here is the BS Majority Leader Pelosi thinks is more important than the lives of American People right now. Can anyone tell me how this will stop the Chinese Flu? Will it heal one American? Will it save one waiter or waitresses job?"

Posted by: rd at March 23, 2020 05:27 PM (+0uDE)

643 >>Something fundamentally different between you and an Italian?

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It sure would be refreshing if they could describe what's on my dinner plate without making that pinchy motion with their hands.

Just once.

Posted by: RKae at March 23, 2020 05:27 PM (aD/4F)

644 559 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance."

The masses will be out panic buying Vitamin D in no time.

And idiots will take too much.

Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 05:27 PM (d6Ksn)

645 Would there be any strategic value to sending the bill to the President so he could veto it. My understanding is that the President customarily includes a statement explaining the veto. I trust PDT would write an epic veto message, which could be spread widely?

Posted by: Introverted Elephocentric Hypochondriac at March 23, 2020 05:29 PM (Qs5a6)

646 Do it Trump! We may as well all die from this shit if we are going to devolve past depression-era life.

Posted by: Eli Cash at March 23, 2020 05:29 PM (67sg6)

647 I suspect Trump is waiting till the personal protective equipment is available from the emergency manufacturers. Then he can open up international travel but mandate that all landings are in NYC or LAX

Posted by: Dempsy at March 23, 2020 05:30 PM (ykOP2)

648 Whether you want to dance on old people's graves or not this is not just a pandemic it's a BFD Media event which at this time they own.

By miraculous skill, Trump's pole numbers are up in spite of efforts that would make W.R. Hearst proud.

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 05:32 PM (oUnSf)

649 The whole Fauci-Trump feud is made-up media drama. I honestly don't know why conservatives don't see this pattern by now.
They've been at it since day one when they lied about Fauci being "muzzled". And the press is deliberately misquoting both of them every single day to make their different emphasis appear to be violent disagreement. Will they disagree? Maybe. Is it some conspiracy? No.

Believe nothing in the press. Watch the WH daily briefings for yourselves. You'll see it happening right in front of you. They target each person on the stage the same way. Oh, but this guy emailed Hillary about Beghazi, which clearly means the deep state has fooled dumb ol' Trump yet again.

Posted by: GalosGann at March 23, 2020 05:32 PM (z6Rh+)

650 " I trust PDT would write an epic veto message, which could be spread widely?"
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Which the MSM simply ignores as they push their ongoing narrative against Trump.

Posted by: Test for Echo at March 23, 2020 05:33 PM (onMzM)

651 In 2019, an estimated 38,800 people lost their lives to car crashes. About 4.4 million people were injured seriously enough to require medical attention.

No one is selling their car and hiding in the basement over that.

Life is inherently dangerous. Get over it.

I see a lot of fear going around masquerading as altruism.

Posted by: Droopy at March 23, 2020 05:33 PM (XZPbq)

652 PM (aD/4F)

644 559 CDC chief says take vitamin D which may help with resistance."

The masses will be out panic buying Vitamin D in no time.

And idiots will take too much.
Posted by: Donna&&&&&&V at March 23, 2020 05:27 PM (d6Ksn)

My primary care physician is of the opinion that it's not possible to take too much Vitamin D, or to put it more accurately, research hasn't found a dosage that shows potential to do the kind of damage an overdose of, say, Vitamin A will do.

Posted by: Introverted Elephocentric Hypochondriac at March 23, 2020 05:33 PM (Qs5a6)

653 368 I do kinda feel sorry for those HS seniors that missed the best time of HS there is, all the short-timer fun stuff. I think by this time most have already been accepted to college or settled on their first career attempt.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at March 23, 2020 04:54 PM (r+sAi)

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I'm sure some are thanking God.

Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at March 23, 2020 05:34 PM (RU4sa)

654 455 here's a question I've not seen an answer for,

how many negative tests are there?

every website shows deaths, and total number of cases. but not total number of test conducted.

what % of those tested are positive, what percentage of ALL tested are dying? what percent of positive are ending up in the hospital?
______________________

The AZ Dept. of Health is posting its testing numbers for the state health lab. The current numbers are:

-- # of people tested: 352
-- # of negatives: 309
-- # of positive: 43
-- # pending: 6

So only around 12% test positive.

AZ reports only 2 deaths from the Chinese Bat Soup Virus so far.

They don't provide any information about how many are hospitalized, critical, or just at home nursing mild symptoms.

AZ has a population of around 7.5 million people. Currently, 234 people here have the virus (the testing numbers above are for those the state tested; other people were tested in private labs, so that's why the total number is bigger).

234 is 0.00312 of the state's population. The two dead represent 0.00002666 of the state's population.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at March 23, 2020 05:35 PM (k4dH2)

655 Put Vitamin D + Chloroquine in medical marijuana.

Problem solved.

Posted by: Droopy at March 23, 2020 05:36 PM (XZPbq)

656 Vitamin D toxicity: What if you get too much? - Mayo Clinic

The main consequence of vitamin D toxicity is a buildup of calcium in your blood (hypercalcemia), which can cause nausea and vomiting, weakness, and frequent urination. Symptoms might progress to bone pain and kidney problems, such as the formation of calcium stones. ...

Posted by: Braeyard at March 23, 2020 05:37 PM (oUnSf)

657 Jeb Bush tells The Dispatch that the coronavirus pandemic will lead to "a movement toward valuing competency, consensus, and servant leadership."

Who?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at March 23, 2020 05:37 PM (YqDXo)

658 Some funneh Gen X memes:

https://tinyurl.com/u4mgtdc

Posted by: SMH - Seriously? at March 23, 2020 05:38 PM (RU4sa)

659 The fact is there are probably a lot of folks who have it or had and had no idea.

While it's true that they might infect others, the relatively low confirmed sick also means that the estimated transmissibility is like less than we know; and it the mortality rate is definitely lower than any estimates we seen so far.

Posted by: Droopy at March 23, 2020 05:40 PM (XZPbq)

660 Remember Leftists do not think life is so precious that whacking a million lives for power is out of the question. They are just using this man made crisis to further their agenda.

Posted by: Skip at March 23, 2020 05:41 PM (ZCEU2)

661 "Taking 60,000 international units (IU) a day of vitamin D for several months has been shown to cause toxicity. This level is many times higher than the Recommended Dietary Allowance (RDA) for most adults of 600 IU of vitamin D a day."

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If you take 100 times the RDA of anything, you ought to die in order to clean up the shallow end of the gene pool.

Posted by: Droopy at March 23, 2020 05:45 PM (XZPbq)

662 Also rank-and-file (non-politician) Leftist use emotion in place of logic.

Right now they're running on fear.

Posted by: Droopy at March 23, 2020 05:47 PM (XZPbq)

663
Yeah, it's a real plague, guys. Look around. If some fascist faggot hadn't just shut down one of my vendors for no discernible reason everyone would be fucking dead by now.

Get it straight.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2020 05:50 PM (II2Y0)

664 647 I suspect Trump is waiting till the personal protective equipment is available from the emergency manufacturers. Then he can open up international travel but mandate that all landings are in NYC or LAX
Posted by: Dempsy at March 23, 2020 05:30 PM (ykOP2)


If he does that he should include a 14 day quarantine like the Aussies.

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Posted by: Paul Kewah at March 23, 2020 05:52 PM (N8jYf)

666 I think Trump should have Dr. Fauci sit down for a private Q&A with Dan Bongino and James Rosen and see how many times he contradicts himself before he finally begs be euthanized right there at that minute.

Posted by: Otto von Grubner at March 23, 2020 05:55 PM (CcwO2)

667 PENIS ENLARGEMENT
ERECTILE DYSFUNCTION
DIABETES type 1 and type 2
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Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at March 23, 2020 05:56 PM (II2Y0)

668 I always thought of David French as some sort of cartoon character, - but this guy is really fucking nuts!

Posted by: Fritz at March 23, 2020 05:56 PM (ATCV4)

669 Hmm. William Barr is standing next to Trump at the press conference.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at March 23, 2020 06:13 PM (nvMvs)

670 This is the same Fauci who said last month the chance of catching the Chinese virus was low, right?

Yeah, fuck him.

Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:15 PM (W2foY)

671 If all this keeps just one person from dying of Coronavirus, it'll be worth it.

Posted by: MAGA at March 23, 2020 06:21 PM (Bhh6t)

672 670 This is the same Fauci who said last month the chance of catching the Chinese virus was low, right?

Yeah, fuck him.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at March 23, 2020 06:15 PM (W2foY)


It was always slippery language. When a public health professional says the chance of catching such and such an illness is low, he means the chance is low right now. He could be aware everyone will eventually catch whatever it is and still tell you the risk is low.

Posted by: Ace's liver at March 23, 2020 06:33 PM (wGeit)

673 I looked at the data on
https://covidtracking.com/data/
last night. Here are some figs as of then for selected states:

% Tested % Positive
0.031% 0.00116% Texas
0.039% 0.00257% Virginia
0.053% 0.00473% Florida
0.314% 0.07763% New York
0.026% 0.02148% New Jersey
0.410% 0.02649% Washington State
0.032% 0.00385% California
0.194% 0.01831% DC

As of today, here are figures:
279485 tested
42164 positive (15.1% of those tested--less than the Diamond Princess example)
3325 hospitalized (1.2% of tested; 7.9% of positive)
Deaths 471 (.17% of those tested; 1.12% Case Fatality rate, i.e., 5 of those positive)

Posted by: groovygirl at March 23, 2020 06:34 PM (ybC9u)

674 What are they going to do keep us in isolation for months, that won't stop the virus it might fudge the figures for a while but the fact is all viruses must peak at some point. I'm not willing to live under house arrest for months because some power hungry media loving doctor thinks I should. You can't stop a virus you can only control the spread for so long.

Posted by: Rose at March 23, 2020 07:01 PM (f/Wek)

675 "Jeb Bush tells the Dispatch" = Irrelevancy Squared

Posted by: Nikola's Notion at March 24, 2020 12:24 PM (hrHLc)

676 "The year's over. I guess everyone will just repeat this grade."

Pfft.

Like anyone repeats grades anymore.

Posted by: aelfheld at March 24, 2020 04:55 PM (IxDhF)

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