Sunday Morning Book Thread 03-01-2020

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Widener Library, Harvard University


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), scamps, tramps, vamps and other riff-raff. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, worn by the model for the joker in a deck of art deco playing cards.



Pic Note:

Widener Library is one of the major libraries of the world:

The Harry Elkins Widener Memorial Library, housing some 3.5 million books in its "vast and cavernous" stacks, is the center­piece of the Harvard College Libraries (the libraries of Harvard's Faculty of Arts and Sciences) and, more broadly, of the entire Harvard Library system. It honors 1907 Harvard College graduate and book collector Harry Elkins Widener, and was constructed by his mother Eleanor Elkins Widener after his death in the sinking of the RMS Titanic in 1912.

The library's holdings, which include works in more than one hundred languages, comprise "one of the world's most comprehen­sive research collec­tions in the humanities and social sciences." Its 57 miles (92 km) of shelves, along five miles (8 km) of aisles on ten levels, comprise a "labyrinth" which one student "could not enter without feeling that she ought to carry a compass, a sandwich, and a whistle."


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

I'm afraid I won't remember this, either:




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The Silver Empire

Moron author Hans Schantz made me aware earlier in the week of something called the Silver Empire Book Club, a subscription service that gives low-cost access to works by independent authors. This is the press release:

Silver Empire Book Club Launches

Huntsville, AL March 1, 2020 — Today, Silver Empire, publisher of heroic, wondrous, adventure fiction, launches its new Book Club service. Fans of fantasy, science fiction, and other genre fiction will now be able to save money on ebooks, paperbacks, or hardcovers of their choice through our new subscription service.

“We wanted to give our fans a way to get all of our latest stuff easily and at the best possible price,” Russell Newquist, Co-founder and Publisher at Silver Empire confirmed.

Subscriptions come in the forms of monthly or annual credit allotments. Monthly plans provide a monthly allotment of credits suitable to purchase a book in the user’s preferred format – ebook, paperback, or hardcover. However, credits can be used interchangeably on alternate formats and they never expire.

Silver Empire found that Amazon’s Kindle Unlimited service fails to provide many readers with books they actually want to read. Furthermore, it means that readers are only renting books rather than owning their favorites. Most of all, it had no options for those readers who still prefer the feel of an actual book in their hands.

Subscription services are live now and can be purchased at this link. Early subscribers will be able to score notable savings on hardcover subscription plans through March 31.

I see from their list that moron authors are well-represented.




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Take the Red Pill

This tweet showed up in my Twitter TL awhile back, and since Dave is a moron author, and because I had never heard of this book before, I wanted to ask him about it. Awakenings: Moments of Truth from Middle America by Adyrana Cortez and Patrick Courielche is available only in hardback for $29, so I asked Dave, since he helped crowdsource it, if it was worth the price. He said:

The authors are co-hosts of the Red-Pilled American podcast, which is a

...storytelling podcast series that promises only one thing…the truth. Each episode will pose a simple question, then search for the answer in the stories of the forgotten men and women of America. Do illegal immigrants really just do the jobs Americans won’t do? What is causing the homeless crisis in Los Angeles? Is “fake news” really a new phenomenon? Why does the black community vote almost unanimously for Democrats? Red Pilled America will delve into questions like these that the media often ridicules, or worse…ignores.

The book's Amazon blurb explains it a bit further:

America is experiencing a revolution in consciousness - an awakening throughout Middle America to the realities of how the world works. This paradigm shift was largely ignited by an unprecedented proliferation of social media and the unsanctioned information that courses through it. As this new consciousness spreads, Hollywood, the media, Big Tech, our educational system, and the establishments of both parties have moved to purge the unauthorized stories and storytellers that emerge...The book is a biography of Middle America's rising consciousness - and weaves personal stories from authors Patrick Courrielche & Adryana Cortez throughout...As Patrick & Adryana reveal each awakening moment, a new layer of the onion is peeled back uncovering the reality our leaders have hidden...Awakenings is truly a love letter to the American tradition of storytelling and provides a crucial platform for the forgotten men and women all across our great nation.

So this is how Dave responded:

It's a good book, even if you're familiar with the podcast like I am. Patrick's a terrific guy, one of Andrew Breitbart's friends, and one of the very few people in conservative media with his head on straight. I'm a bit biased because we talk on the phone every once in a while and Patrick included me in the acknowledgments, but overall, it's an enjoyable read. I know that people just want to be entertained, and that you shouldn't spend your money on conservative stuff just because it's conservative, but this's worth it. We need a lot more Patricks out there, and I'm glad to invest.



Who Dis:

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Last week's 'who dis' was Orson Welles, before he blimped out.



Moron Recommendations

This:

Favorite books about music or musicians?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at February 23, 2020 09:26 AM (PUmDY)

Prompted this:

"My Favorite Intermissions" by Victor Borge. Each chapter is about a noted opera figure, with side-splitting footnotes.

Example: Text states that [Name] was being criticized for writing an extremely long opera, so he cut it in half.



Footnote: "Now he had two operas nobody wanted to produce."

My gawd, the things those guys got up to -- Hollywood had nothing on them!

Posted by: Weak Geek at February 23, 2020 02:55 PM (u/nim)

My Favorite Intermissions: Lives of the Musical Greats, is sadly OOP, as are all of the other books by Borge, but used copies are available. Borge also wrote My Favorite Comedies in Music, which appears to be a companion volume.

Also, Rodrigo Borgia brought up Keith Richard's library, to which I responded that I featured it in a previous book thread. Richards is apparently a voracious reader, and a writer as well. He actually wrote a children's book, Gus & Me: The Story of My Granddad and My First Guitar, which is illustrated by Theodora Richards, his daughter by his second wife.

And not only is Keith a reader, he's also a writer. In addition to Life, his memoirs, he's also written a children's book, Gus & Me: The Story of My Granddad and My First Guitar which is illustrated by Theodora Richards, his daughter by his second wife. And this one looks like fun: What Would Keith Richards Do?: Daily Affirmations from a Rock and Roll Survivor, where

Here, at last, the wisdom of this indefatigable man is recorded and set forth. These are his visionary words: "I would rather be a legend than a dead legend." Or "Whatever side I take, I know well that I will be blamed." And--indeed--"I've never had a problem with drugs, only with policemen."

$9.99 on Kindle.

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297 Mrs. Squirrel and i read a great book titled, "Goodbye Things." It is written by a Japanese author and turns Marie Kondo's minimalism dial from 7 to 11.

Essentially, the author states that the things you are hoarding or holding onto are physical and emotional baggage that clutter your daily life and head. He says that you should give most of your stuff away to people who need it, or sell it, and live simply

.To be honest, the wife and i both had positive takeaways from the book. I got rid of a bunch of books i was planning on reading and never did; scanned numerous work papers and got rid of originals. Cleaned out a ton of stuff from the house, and you know what? I don't miss any of it.

I high recommend the book to the Horde. There are a lot of great points he makes. While he isn't a philosopher, there are certainly thought provoking maxims and ideas he has, and i would encourage you to pick it up.

Posted by: secret squirrel at February 23, 2020 11:26 AM (xyImL)

For some reason, Goodbye, Things: The New Japanese Minimalism sounds very Buddhist to me, and I don't mean that disparagingly. Even though I have no idea what the religious beliefs of the author are. It just sounds like what he's proposing comes from a culturally Buddhist approach to life. Having said that, I note that the Bible has its own warnings against the dangers of being enslaved by your worldly possessions. Although I think the underlying reasons are probably different.

And this life advice makes sense to me. As middle age dwindles into the distance behind me and old age fast approaches, I find that I have cut back on my acquisition of things, told my children not to buy me things as gifts, and most of my book-buying is now ebook versions. Because, I think it's just more stuff my kids are going to have to figure out what to do with when I'm gone, so what's the point, really? There's nothing I really, really want any more, anyway. Or, I should say, what I really want can't be bought with money.

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Reading The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie, by Alan Bradley. Recommended by [my] daughter and so far, its a very enjoyable post WWII crime mystery with an 11 year old girl and the very capable sleuth. Not YA though. I hope it continues to be good because there are several books in the series.

Posted by: LASue at February 23, 2020 11:44 AM (Ed8Zd)

The Sweetness at the Bottom of the Pie: A Flavia de Luce Novel is Alan Bradley'd debut mystery novel:

It is the summer of 1950–and at the once-grand mansion of Buckshaw, young Flavia de Luce, an aspiring chemist with a passion for poison, is intrigued by a series of inexplicable events: A dead bird is found on the doorstep, a postage stamp bizarrely pinned to its beak. Then, hours later, Flavia finds a man lying in the cucumber patch and watches him as he takes his dying breath.

For Flavia, who is both appalled and delighted, life begins in earnest when murder comes to Buckshaw. “I wish I could say I was afraid, but I wasn’t. Quite the contrary. This was by far the most interesting thing that had ever happened to me in my entire life.”

I count about 12 novels in Bradley's Flavia de Luce series. This first one is available on Kindle for $4.99, the price of the others are considerably higher.


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What Could *Possibly* Go Wrong?

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RIP Clive Cussler 1931-2020

As noted in the sidebar:

Clive Cussler, the US author of the popular Dirk Pitt novels, has died at the age of 88.

He wrote 25 books in the adventure series, including Sahara and Raise the Titanic, and sold more than 100 million copies of his novels in total.

Both adaptations were movie flops. You mean to tell me that Hollywood is unable to make a decent Dirk Pitt movie?

This I did not know:

Known as an expert in shipwrecks, Cussler founded the non-profit National Underwater and Marine Agency.

His non-fiction book Sea Hunters was so extensive in its underwater knowledge the Maritime College in the State of New York gave him a doctorate.

The Sea Hunters: True Adventures with Famous Shipwrecks does sound like to might be interesting:

A steamboat goes up in flames...and down to the bottom of the sea. A locomotive plunges into a creek...and vanishes into mystery. A German U-boat sends an American troop transport, and eight hundred on board, to a watery grave...on Christmas Eve.

Clive Cussler and his crack team of NUMA (National Underwater Marine Agency, a nonprofit organization that searches for historic shipwrecks) volunteers have found the remains of these and numerous other tragic wrecks. Here are the dramatic, true accounts of twelve of the most remarkable underwater discoveries made by Cussler and his team.



They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:

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Books By Morons

I had never heard of Kiffin Rockwell until I received an e-mail from Mark, a hitherto unknown lurking moron author earlier in the week:

I...have published a new biography titled A Destiny of Undying Greatness: Kiffin Rockwell and the Boys Who Remembered Lafayette. I think the story told may be of interest to many morons...

While the book is a comprehensive biography of Kiffin Rockwell, it provides a much fuller account than has previously been given of a remarkable set of American boys who chose to enlist and fight for France more than two years before their own country entered World War One. These American volunteers, including Kiffin, began their service in the trenches with the Foreign Legion. Many of the boys came from some of America's wealthiest and most privileged families, and all chose to stand with France due to their belief that we owed a debt to that nation as a result of the assistance rendered by Lafayette when America faced its own hour of need. Accordingly, they fought for France and civilization as common soldiers in the muddy and bloody trenches along the Western Front.

As many morons probably know, later in the war Kiffin and some of the others transferred to aviation and became the world's first fighter pilots, taking to the skies as part of an all-American squadron flying for France.

These are the American flyers who became known as the Lafayette Escadrille. All because they believed they had a debt to repay to Lafayette nearly a century and a half previous. That's amazing.

Many of these idealists, Kiffin included, willingly gave their lives to pay America's debt. In so doing, they became heroes back home and helped galvanize their countrymen to action, paving the way for America to enter the war - just in time, as it turned out.

It truly is a remarkable and little-known story about a remarkable and little-known set of American heroes. While the book is a biography of Kiffin Rockwell, I tried to use his service as a vehicle to tell the larger story of America's entry into the Great War...I spent five years researching and writing the book, and truly believe it tells a tale worth telling. I think many Americans would be very surprised and proud to learn about these boys.

A Destiny of Undying Greatness: Kiffin Rockwell and the Boys Who Remembered Lafayette is only available in paperback.

The author's website has a few "extras" related to the book. His instagram account also has some photos.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books




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1 Early edition

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 08:59 AM (ZCEU2)

2 Finished the first book of Outlander. I may go back and read the second book but I'll wait for the price to drop. Currently doing a reread of the Recluce series. Been a while since I read that,

Posted by: Vic at March 01, 2020 09:00 AM (mpXpK)

3 The Murder Stone by Charles Todd

I read this because I had read several of Todd's Inspector Ian Rutledge mysteries and liked them. This is quite different although like the Rutledge novels, it is set around WWI and the characters and plot are informed by the war. Francesca Hatton, a 22 year old Red Cross volunteer, returns to her wealthy grandfather's isolated estate where she was raised in the fall of 1916 when her grandfather becomes ill and soon dies. She was raised on that happy estate with her five cousins although both her parents and her cousins' parents are long dead. But all five cousins were killed in the war and, with the death of the grandfather, she is the sole remaining Hatton and must administer what is now her estate. As a consequence, she learns of several mysterious properties and relationships about which she knew nothing. She begins to suspect he may not have been the upright person she thought he was particularly when a stranger accuses him of having murdered his mother and anonymous poison pen letters begin to arrive.

This book is definitely a mystery although whether it is a murder mystery is open to interpretation. All of the intricately plotted twists and turns fall neatly into place at the denouement and a particularly vile and memorable villain is discovered hiding in plain sight but whether that villain's revenge will succeed even from beyond the grave is left unresolved until the final pages when our heroine is tortured by a devious moral dilemma.

I quite enjoyed this book.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 09:00 AM (+y/Ru)

4 “Verily and forsooth,” replied Goodgulf darkly. “In the past year strange and fearful wonders I have seen. Fields sown with barley reap crabgrass and fungus, and even small gardens reject their artichoke hearts. There has been a hot day in December and a blue moon. Calendars are made with a month of Sundays and a blue-ribbon Holstein bore alive two insurance salesmen. The earth spits and the entails of a goat were tied in square knots. The face of the sun blackens and the skies have rained down soggy potato chips.

“But what do all these things mean?” gasped Frito.

“Beats me,” said Goodgulf with a shrug.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

5 Reckon I'll mosey back to the top and read the content.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 09:01 AM (b+OYQ)

6 I stopped reading books this week. Bar Review books, that is.
NH pop quiz - over!

Posted by: RI Red at March 01, 2020 09:02 AM (3vvo6)

7 These pants.

Old and busted: Zoot Suit Riot

New hotness: Zoot Suit Vomit

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 09:03 AM (+y/Ru)

8 Called the nood so my work is done here, someday I will get a new book. Promise.
p.s. Still enchanted with those book nooks, lots of ideas to think about.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 09:03 AM (ZCEU2)

9 Booken morgen horden!

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:03 AM (G546f)

10 I don't know who dis is, but she is holding that book upside down....

Posted by: runner at March 01, 2020 09:03 AM (T3zWB)

11 The library's holdings, which include works in more than one hundred languages, comprise "one of the world's most comprehensive research collections in the humanities and social sciences."

Oh. That was a letdown.

Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2020 09:04 AM (jyVW0)

12 Who Dis:
Sarah Rafferty

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 01, 2020 09:05 AM (P1GvV)

13 Who would it be more fun to watch PDT debate: Biden or Bernie?

Posted by: Jmel at March 01, 2020 09:05 AM (OeWgo)

14 Nice Lieberry!

And those pants ain't too bad....how come runway models never smile?

The redhead looks strangely familiar.....I think I saw her on one of those cards they hand out on the skreet.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2020 09:06 AM (Z+IKu)

15 Is that the redhead from Jumanji?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)

16 Even that book/ stairs drawing could be replicated as a book nook

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 09:07 AM (ZCEU2)

17 Oh honey those pants are FINE!

Posted by: The Queen in a deck of art deco playing cards. at March 01, 2020 09:07 AM (Tnijr)

18 I read "I Am A Man: Chief Standing Bear's Journey For Justice" by Joe Starita. Every now and then a man comes along who to those in power is unreasonable, the monkey in the wrench, the fly in the ointment. In 1879 that man was Ma-chu-nah-zah, or Standing Bear. He was a chief of the Ponca Tribe of Nebraska.

In 1877 the government forcibly removed the 700 Ponca to Indian Territory from lands granted them by the 1865 Ft. Laramie Treaty. Unfortunately the 1868 Ft. Laramie Treaty with the Sioux "mistakenly" included the Ponca lands in that treaty. The Sioux, who hated the Ponca, were more than happy to have them removed. Thus began the Ponca's 600 mile trail of tears. The irony is the Ponca were living just as the government wanted Indians to live and were as self-sufficient as anyone at that time could be.

January 1879 Standing Bear had had enough of their new home and the Indian agents. A third of the tribe was dead including his son, most were sick, and the government had not kept it's promises. So Standing Bear and 26 others headed north. Two months later near Omaha they were arrested by Brig. Gen. George Crook. Thomas Tibbles, an Omaha newspaper editor, was tipped off about the arrest and would write stories about the Ponca's troubles and was given the idea to sue the federal government. The landmark federal trial of Standing Bear vs Crook began in April 1879. He won his case. Before the trial Indians were not considered "persons" according to the law. After the trial they were, well sort of.

And who tipped off Tibbles and planted the idea of a lawsuit? Tibbles said it was BG George Crook.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 01, 2020 09:07 AM (P1GvV)

19 Found another good one, The Kaiser's Pirates, about the German commerce raiders in WWI.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 01, 2020 09:07 AM (k9Zh+)

20 *what in the name of gaia is Eris reading??

Posted by: runner at March 01, 2020 09:08 AM (T3zWB)

21 Greetings!

Once again I'm humbled by the generosity of the Horde and thanks to everyone who bought my new book!

My next project is a sequel to Battle Officer Wolf, but I'm going to take a break from writing for a bit. The original was written under the influence of gin rather than whiskey, so for continuity's sake I will wait for warmer weather.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

22 20
*what in the name of gaia is Eris reading??

Posted by: runner at March 01, 2020 09:08 AM (T3zWB)

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Bored of the Rings, by the Harvard Lampoon.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)

23 Patrick Courrielche came to my attention years ago in Breitbart's site when he discussed the effort by a couple of fanatical NEA underlings of Obama to recruit him into a Maoist Obamacare propaganda project in Santa Monica. A reflexive liberal, he was scared and awakened to what the Left was doing.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 01, 2020 09:10 AM (H8QX8)

24 This paradigm shift was largely ignited by an unprecedented proliferation of social media and the unsanctioned information

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Unsanctioned information is the best information.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 09:10 AM (+y/Ru)

25 Have I mentioned I didn't go there?

Posted by: San Franpsycho at March 01, 2020 09:10 AM (EZebt)

26 "Sarah Rafferty"

Prince Harry should have married her.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 09:11 AM (4thlk)

27 "Lethologica"...like I'll remember that.

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 09:11 AM (X/Pw5)

28 "Lethologica" - I do that a lot, but it's because I drink like a Kennedy.

Dennis Wheatley's To the Devil, A Daughter, oh, I remember that, but more the 1976 Hammer film with Nastassja Kinski, which Wheatley hated and never allowed any more of his books to made adapted to film.

"Goodbye, Things". . . well, yes, I know I have a lot of shit cluttering up Stately Poppins Manor (most especially tailored clothes which I will never fit back into), but I simply cannot get books on my kindle. I have to have the physical sensation of holding a book.

And yes, I know that everything will be tossed into a dumpster when I die, but I'll be gone by then and nobody will care.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:12 AM (Ki5SV)

29 "The Ka of Gifford Hillary"


Ka definition: a spiritual entity, an aspect of the individual, believed to live within the body during life and to survive it after death.

Could it..., naaah.


Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2020 09:12 AM (Tnijr)

30 Got a couple John Ringo books to get me through this latest apocalypse: I dusted off an old favorite, The Last Centurion, and checked out the next in the Black Tide Rising series, River of Night.

Ringo is interviewed here by Instapundit:

https://tinyurl.com/qtl7ub2

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:13 AM (Dc2NZ)

31 trivia - the Widener library is named in honor of a rich Philly scion who died on the Titanic

He and his parents were all on the Titanic having dinner with the captain that night, father George anf son Harry died

mom Eleanor and her maid survived; sge endowed the library
Widener University in PA is (somewhat recently) named after her

she remarried an explorer and they went traipsing around the Amazon
I think her second hubby was eaten by cannibals

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:13 AM (G546f)

32 I read "Stormy Weather" and "Lucky You" by Carl Hiaasen. Both are a hoot.

Stormy Weather takes place immediately after Hurricane Andrew hit south of Miami in 1992. From what I know about that time it could probably be considered actual history. Only the names were changed to protect the guilty.

Lucky You is about two winners of the Florida Lottery worth $28 million. One ticket is held by a free spirited black gal in a town known for its religious "miracles", and the other one is held by two half-wit wanna be militia types who recruit a third half-wit to help steal the black gal's ticket.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at March 01, 2020 09:14 AM (P1GvV)

33 They asked each other countless riddles, such as who played the Cisco Kid and what was Krypton. In the end, Dildo won the game. Stumped at last for a riddle to ask, he cried out, as his hand fell on his snub-nosed .38, "What have I got in my pocket?" This Goddam failed to answer, and growing impatient, he paddled up to Frito, whining, "Let me see, let me see." Frito obliged by pulling out the pistola nd emptying it in Goddam's direction. The dark spoild his am, and he managed only to deflate the rubber float, leaving Goddam to flounder. Goddam, who couldn't swim, reach out his hand to Dildo and begged him to pull him out and as he did, Frito noticed an interesting-looking rin on his finger and pulled it off. he would have finished Goddam off then and there, but pity stayed his hand. It's a pity I've run out of bullets, he thought, as he went back up the tunnel, pursued by Goddam's cries of rage.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)

34 Anonosaurus Wrecks, I'll have to check out the Charles Todd
I read and liked the first Ian Rutledge's but after a while I tired of his moroseness

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:15 AM (G546f)

35 who dis looks like Amy Adams

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:16 AM (G546f)

36 That Calvin strip. I used to draw little animations on the outside margins of my schoolbooks. Things like rockets going up and parachuting back down or a bug crawling up the page. I often wondered if the next person to get the book figured out how to flip the pages to see the show.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2020 09:17 AM (Tnijr)

37 Hey! My college roommate wrote a book! "History is the Hook: A Chronological Approach to Education" is available at amazon and the target audience is homeschoolers, but it would be good for anyone. It's not a history book, but rather a book on how to teach. The main idea is that we learn better when a subject is taught in chronological order (or reverse chronological order) because the history creates a framework to attach the various new facts that are being learned. And having a narrative keeps students interested in learning.

There is more in the book about giving kids agency in what they study and accountability for what they learn. I've only just started the book, so I can't really say more, but check it out! (And I'm quoted in the book!)

Posted by: biancaneve at March 01, 2020 09:17 AM (hkMx0)

38 "...he would have finished Goddam off then and there, but pity stayed his hand. It's a pity I've run out of bullets, he thought, as he went back up the tunnel, pursued by Goddam's cries of rage."

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:14 AM (cfSRQ)
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This has been one of my favorite passages of all time. Don't know what that sez about me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

39 I read The Rebels of Ireland by Edward Rutherfurd. This is the sequel to The Princes of Ireland, and together they are known as The Dublin Saga. Start with meticulous research, create interesting characters, tell the history of an area using the two and you have a great historical novel. Rutherfurd has done this with the four books of his that I have read so far. I'm looking forward to reading two others, Paris and Russka.

On the Kindle, I read Old Enemy by Nathan Hystad. This is book six in The Survivors series, and while the series continues, I'll search for something better to read.

Posted by: Zoltan at March 01, 2020 09:17 AM (PevXk)

40 Dennis Wheatley - I distinctly remember reading his The Devil Rides out as an impressionable yute

they should make it into movie

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (G546f)

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That's the "reading room" at Widener.

Believe it or not, the room is much larger, much "grander" than it looks in the image.
The facade of the building is kinda magnificent, too. Has huge pillars, and big, wide granite steps.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (M69dA)

42 She looks like Mary Louise Parker as a ginger. But I don't know the answer.

Before I get to current reading; I have a few things to say about Murderers' Row (1927 Yankees, in newspaper stories of the day), which I finished Monday.

One, inspired also by last week's Who Dis, is the reflection that, if you filmed it bit by bit, over the course of his life, Orson Welles would have made a perfect cast for Babe Ruth.

Another is that the papers were blessedly free from the PC of our times. The ethnicity of players was played up, seriously. E.g., when Tony Lazzeri hit homers in one game, the story compared him to Caesar, Dante, Columbus, Galileo, and even Mussolini. And said he deserved all the spaghetti he could eat.

But there was also a distinction drawn between recent immigrants and those wholly Americanized. Nowhere is this clearer than with the two biggest stars. Gehrig was fluent in German; Ruth didn't know it at all. When a German kid wrote to the Babe, Lou had to read it to him, and translate his reply.

It's also worth remembering that, in 1927, Prohibition did NOT forbid homemade alcohol for family consumption. It was openly stated that Gehrig and Lazzeri drank at home (beer and wine, respectively.)

And finally a point perhaps more appropriate for CBD later today. There is a story in which a New York writer describes - clearly as something new - that the food at Pittsburgh's Forbes Field includes "a small hamburger steak on a round bun", and wishes that would spread to other ballparks, including the NY ones.

Frankly, half the fun of reading accounts from the time - for any time and place - is stuff like that.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (ZbwAu)

43 This has been one of my favorite passages of all time. Don't know what that sez about me.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:17 AM (Dc2NZ)

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Yes, and that's why I went right to that passage.

Captures the entire spirit of the book.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (cfSRQ)

44 I may be 62, but I won't be a minimalist anytime soon. I am going to buy the books I want, the pretty garden flowers, the "things" that please me to use in my home, hang on my walls, or to put on a shelf. I don't want gifts from the kids, but largely because they have poor taste. I don't feel their inheritance needs to be hassle free, if they don't want to empty the house they can sell the interior to an estate clean out dealer who can auction it off. I spent plenty of time and money paying for education and assisting the kids. If they dare mouth off about how hard it will be to throw out stuff, I can always leave everything to their cousins who need the money.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 09:19 AM (5wOoy)

45 I’m also “reading” a delightful tome on tiki drinks, “Smuggler's Cove: Exotic Cocktails, Rum, and the Cult of Tiki” by Martin Cate.

Here’s the BBC mini-doc “The Air-Conditioned Eden” to get you in the right island frame of mind:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUaozbC3XtA

Professor Haunani-Kay Trask is on hand to explain the appeal of processed Polynesia to Repressed White America. Shut up bitch! I remember this academic from back in the day in Hawaii.

It’s condescending, of course (Beeb) but it is true that returning GIs brought back a love of the Pacific. Dad was heavily influenced by the experience. Our house growing up was a mishmash of Asian, Tropical, and Suburban Pagan that was a delight. It was kind of like if Rudyard Kipling had a Trader Vic’s franchise as a side hustle.


Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:19 AM (Dc2NZ)

46 I'm a week into the book group's most recent choice, Theodore Dreiser's Sister Carrie, and it pretty much confirms why I didn't want to read it. It's not bad, per se, and the characters are reasonably interesting, but Dreiser's prose can be pretty fucking clunky when trying to describe emotions, like third rate Joyce or Proust. Sometimes the eye rolling gets pretty severe. I'll surely finish it but don't plan on reading another thing by him after this. It takes place in Chicago and I can't help but associate it with those terrible muckraking insomnia cures by Upton Sinclair inflicted on school children to turn them into commies who hate good literature. Sherwood Anderson, another miserable fuck who hated the country, liked Dreiser so there you go.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 09:19 AM (y7DUB)

47 Thanks for sharing the news about the Silver Empire Book Club. I'm hoping it will grow into a real alternative platform for indie authors - Moron Horde and otherwise.

I'm enjoying my signed copy of Mike "Thomas Paine" Moore's "How We Dismantled the FBI In Our Pajamas," this morning. The veteran FBI agent and journalists exposes deep state corruption after having been targeted by the FBI for knowing too much. Check out his reporting at TruePundit.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at March 01, 2020 09:19 AM (FXjhj)

48 19 Found another good one, The Kaiser's Pirates, about the German commerce raiders in WWI.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at March 01, 2020 09:07 AM (k9Zh+)

_______

I actually met Luckner's nephew a few times.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:20 AM (ZbwAu)

49
and Widener is pronounced with a V. I hear people say it like it ryhmes with Wagner, though. They say Vah-dner.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:20 AM (M69dA)

50 So I mentioned earlier in the week the children's book The Way of Democracy, from 1950. It's a schoolbook, part of the "Democracy Series," and its intent was, said the editors, that "it is essential.. .that we teach our children to love and respect the democratic rights which our forebears have won and that we develop in the children an active determination to protect and continue to perfect our ways of expressing these democratic ideals."

So you can see right there that this is a book that would never be allowed in any government school. Or in many private schools either, I daresay.

There are chapters - each told as a story - about Magna Carta, the Declaration and the adoption of the Constitution, discussions (again, each told as a story) about trial by jury, voting, the right to private property, freedom of speech and press and so on.

If you're homeschooling, I think this would be an excellent book for the third grade on, except that it would be extremely hard to find.

And it is an incredibly sad book to read and realize that it might as well be in pig latin for all that its subject is taught - and followed by the corrupt bastards infesting the government - today.

https://tinyurl.com/r2jl3wm

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:23 AM (Ki5SV)

51
Another interesting thing about Widener Library is the money to build it was donated by a rich lady in, like, 1916, Mrs Widener, so it would be dedicated to her young son who went down in the Titanic.


Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:23 AM (M69dA)

52 I read Keith Richards' autobiography. I was fascinated by a lot of it (600+ pages, IIRC). Richards worked with Chuck Berry & was shocked, & negatively impressed, by Berry's lack of professionalism. Chuck basically didn't care if he was remembered for disappointing his fans & serving up a zh&t product. Just. Did. NOT. Care.

I read an interesting bio of Puccini a year or so back. I was amazed that his private life was so balled up, & irredeemably so. King Solomon on his best day could't have solved Puccini's domestic mess.

Another music-related book I liked was Sammy Hagar's autobiography "Red," if I remember the title correctly. Sammy made more $$$ off of his boutique, premium tequila, Cabo Wabo, than he did off his music. He is a gifted entrepreneur.

Posted by: mnw at March 01, 2020 09:23 AM (Cssks)

53 Dennis Wheatley - I distinctly remember reading his The Devil Rides out as an impressionable yute

they should make it into movie
Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (G546f)


They did. 1968.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:25 AM (Ki5SV)

54 15 Is that the redhead from Jumanji?
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:06 AM (Dc2NZ)


Karen Gillan? No.

Correct answer is at #12.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 09:26 AM (l41J9)

55 I was intrigued by mention of Charles Todd's "The Murder Stone" last week, and went and added it to my Kindle ... next on the list, after I finish Ringo's "Last Centurion" ... nearly done with that. It's an OK read, but slows down the story for great wedges of info dump. I know it is the style to write it like a blog-post, but ... ah, well, not my book.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 01, 2020 09:26 AM (xnmPy)

56 Good Sunday morning, horde!

I am still reading Wild Swans by Jung Chang, but I'm going to take a break from it while I read books I had reserved from the library. I own Wild Swans, so it will wait.

This morning, then, I started Imperium by Ryszard Kapuscinski. Someone here recommended it, and so far I am really appreciating his writing style. Vividly descriptive, but not in an overwrought way--more of a matter-of-fact childhood view of it. I'm looking forward to getting deeper into this one.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 09:26 AM (OX9vb)

57 Currently reading 'The Quest For Cosmic Justice', Sowell. My thanks for the Moronic tip, whoever suggested it.

Also working on 'Operation Overflight', Gary Powers, quite good.

Close to finishing up 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb', Rhodes. As I have stated before, this is quite possibly the most interesting book that I have ever read. It really is a staggering, well written work. The Wiki entry is worth reading : https://tinyurl.com/h5lflqq

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2020 09:27 AM (CDGwz)

58 Frankly, half the fun of reading accounts from the time - for any time and place - is stuff like that.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (ZbwAu)


Have you read Bill Bryson's One Summer: America 1927? He talks a lot about the '27 Yankees, including the tit-bit that Ruth very likely had an affair with Gehrig's wife.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:27 AM (Ki5SV)

59 Widener University in PA is (somewhat recently) named after her

Did not know that. It's a nice little oasis. A "rich Philly scion" is the last thing you'd associate with Chester, PA. It was, I read, a military college until the 1972 name change.

Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2020 09:27 AM (gHCnG)

60 My current pile of Lenten reading:

Ronald Knox's translation of theNew Testament, and his commentary on the Gospels. (Also a book of his sermons.) There's a commentary on Paul I'm still looking for.

Feser's Five Proofs, for actual theology.

GKC's Orthodoxy. Especially useful when my brain gets tired. He always peps me up.

Joy Davidman's Smoke on the Mountain, which is about the 10 Commandments. Interesting take as she was raised Jewish, became atheist, and converted to Christianity. (And, of course, married C S Lewis, to whom it is dedicated.) Actually, when I got that out, I also included CSL's Discarded Image, which had been right next to it.

And finally, The Divine Comedy. This time I want to do it differently. I intend to read the Cantos in parallel, which means reading Inferno II, Purgatorio I, and Paradisio I, in succession. I want to look for the parallelism. (Inferno I doesn't count, as it's introductory, about the wood and the 3 beasts. Which is why that book has 34 cantos, while the others have 33.)

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:28 AM (ZbwAu)

61 Must hie me to church. Read well, Horde.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2020 09:29 AM (xSo9G)

62 And this life advice makes sense to me. As middle age dwindles into the distance behind me and old age fast approaches, I find that I have cut back on my acquisition of things, told my children not to buy me things as gifts, and most of my book-buying is now ebook versions. Because, I think it's just more stuff my kids are going to have to figure out what to do with when I'm gone, so what's the point, really?

There's nothing I really, really want any more, anyway. Or, I should say, what I really want can't be bought with money.



"Goodbye, Moon"

A Memento Mori by naturalfake


Goodbye, Moon.

Goodbye Health.

Goodbye Job

And chance of Wealth.

Goodbye Love.

We had our run.

Goodbye Kiss.

Our run is done.

Goodbye Children

I hope you find

The life and love

That's in your mind.

Goodbye Things

That meant so much

Goodbye Hearts

I hoped to touch

Goodbye Friends

Our time has passed

Goodbye to You

Beneath the Grass

Goodbye Sun

So bright and hot

I go to a Place

That I know not.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 09:29 AM (z0XD8)

63 Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 01, 2020 09:26 AM (xnmPy)

Sgt Mom, I popped Ridin' the Rainbow into the mail yesterday, so you should be getting it in a few days.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:30 AM (Ki5SV)

64 and Widener is pronounced with a V. I hear people say it like it ryhmes with Wagner, though. They say Vah-dner.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:20 AM (M69dA)

Yes, the W in German is pronounced like an English V. The English W pronunciation doesn't exist in German. Maria von Trapp said that trying to pronounce the W in words like "what" was one of the most difficult things she had to conquer when she was learning English.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 09:30 AM (nRNOc)

65 On the good side of the ledger, I started "The Real Life of Sebastian Knight" the first book by Nabokov written in English even though he still lived in Paris but desperately wanting to come to the US as WW2 loomed. He'd gone to college at Cambridge so his English was already superb and I think he realized that the England speaking world was where his literarily future was brightest plus he wasn't completely pleased with how others translated his earlier rooski works. Anyway the book is starting off as a delightfully quirky account of a deceased minor writer done by his half brother who didn't really know him well. I'm pretty sure I'll enjoy this.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 09:31 AM (y7DUB)

66 I saw this cookbook at the library and had a good laugh at the cover:

https://tinyurl.com/v4tsx7r

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:31 AM (Dc2NZ)

67 Thanks, MPPP! I'll look forward to it!

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at March 01, 2020 09:31 AM (xnmPy)

68 "Richards worked with Chuck Berry was shocked, negatively
impressed, by Berry's lack of professionalism. Chuck basically didn't
care if he was remembered for disappointing his fans serving up a
zht product."


Meh, I think Keith had regrets about producing that Chuck Berry documentary "Hail! Hail! RocknRoll", it's Keith that comes off looking like an unprofessional asshole in that movie.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 09:33 AM (4thlk)

69 It was, I read, a military college until the 1972 name change.
Posted by: t-bird
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As an aside, see: Mary Baldwin College

Mary Baldwin acquired what was Staunton Military Academy

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2020 09:33 AM (xSo9G)

70 Bored of the Rings, by the Harvard Lampoon.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:09 AM (cfSRQ)


This is why I come here - knowledge.

Posted by: runner at March 01, 2020 09:34 AM (T3zWB)

71 I'm observing that some of you are not wearing pants.

You know who you are.

Posted by: Assistant Associate AoSHQ Pants, Culottes, & Chaps Monitor at March 01, 2020 09:34 AM (x2nDx)

72 I have no idea 'Who Dis", though she looks familiar, but that is a quite a lovely dress she's wearing.

Posted by: Tuna at March 01, 2020 09:34 AM (RueoN)

73 Someone mentioned Treasure Island a few weeks back. Noticed it at the top of the stairs so I read it. I think it's a Reader's Digest version. A very quick read, every other page was a picture. (Hey, I'm just starting to read again, gimme a break)

Odd to read something without all the hand-wringing and introspection. People get shot and killed and, with that fact recorded, the story continues.

Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2020 09:35 AM (CDGwz)

74 Those pants would be better if they were inflatable latex.

Widener Library, Harvard University

Just look at all that empty wall space. They could've gone up twice as high with the bookshelves. Put in a 2nd-level walkway 'round the room to get to them.

I guess they were going for widener not tallener.

Posted by: mindful webworker
What makes you so special?
at March 01, 2020 09:35 AM (Cd8NC)

75 OK, folks, I've got to get the chicken marsala into the slow cooker and try to get at least a page of my book written.

Hope you all have a lovely weekend.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:35 AM (Ki5SV)

76 This is why I come here - knowledge.
Posted by: runner
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Wait until you read about Dildo Baggins.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at March 01, 2020 09:36 AM (CDGwz)

77 71 I'm observing that some of you are not wearing pants.

You know who you are.
Posted by: Assistant Associate AoSHQ Pants, Culottes, & Chaps Monitor at March 01, 2020 09:34 AM (x2nDx)
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*shifty eyes*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:36 AM (Dc2NZ)

78 Is that Sarah Michelle Gellar?

Looks like her...ginger-style!

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 09:36 AM (z0XD8)

79 58 Frankly, half the fun of reading accounts from the time - for any time and place - is stuff like that.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (ZbwAu)

Have you read Bill Bryson's One Summer: America 1927? He talks a lot about the '27 Yankees, including the tit-bit that Ruth very likely had an affair with Gehrig's wife.
Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at March 01, 2020 09:27 AM (Ki5SV)
_______

Not that one, though I have seen the story about Babe and Eleanor. If it happened - and we don't know - it would have been well after 1927, though. I don't think she and Gehrig had met that early. They married in 1933.

Tony Lazzeri said the rift between Babe and Lou had a different source. Ruth thought Gehrig was a cheapskate, and Gehrig thought Ruth was a loudmouth. Tony added, "They were both right."

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:37 AM (ZbwAu)

80 I've been reading a ton of military history and need to spice things up.

Anybody know about the Hoke Moseley series?

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at March 01, 2020 09:37 AM (VNfwt)

81 This morning, then, I started Imperium by Ryszard Kapuscinski. Someone here recommended it, and so far I am really appreciating his writing style. Vividly descriptive, but not in an overwrought way--more of a matter-of-fact childhood view of it. I'm looking forward to getting deeper into this one.
Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 09:26 AM (OX9vb)


That was probably me. I picked it up based on a review in the New York Review of Books back before their stupid politics drove me away and they wrote intelligently about books. Kapuscinski was one of those writers, like John McPhee, who is strangely able to write interestingly about just about anything. I'm glad you're enjoying it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 09:38 AM (y7DUB)

82
g'mornin, book-ish 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at March 01, 2020 09:38 AM (fs+EA)

83 BTW, nice poem naturalfake.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 09:40 AM (4thlk)

84 Downstairs I'm reading a history of the Medici clan, which is pretty good (it was written back in the Sixties by a Brit so he doesn't have to waste time excoriating the Medici family for lack of diversity).

Upstairs this week I read Brian Aldiss's _Cryptozoic!_, one of those landmark New Wave SF novels I've been meaning to get around to for years.

Utter waste of time. It's got one of those annoyingly passive British New Wave SF protagonists, the plot doesn't make a lick of sense, and the whole thing leads up to a big revelation which is even stupider than what stoned high school students come up with after listening to rock song lyrics.

Highly un-recommended. Hard to believe this is the same guy who wrote _Hothouse_.

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 09:40 AM (+pjYf)

85 64
Yes, the W in German is pronounced like an English V. The English W pronunciation doesn't exist in German. Maria von Trapp said that trying to pronounce the W in words like "what" was one of the most difficult things she had to conquer when she was learning English.
Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 09:30 AM (nRNOc)
________

Oddly, it used to be that the opposite effect occurred in England, among some people. From Dickens I get the impression it was a class thing, but anyway, people would pronounce "very" as "werry", etc.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:40 AM (ZbwAu)

86 I see I misspoke in #79. Ruth could have gotten it on with Eleanor in or even before 1927. But she and Gehrig weren't together yet.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:43 AM (ZbwAu)

87 and Widener is pronounced with a V. I hear people say it like it rhymes with Wagner, though. They say Vah-dner.

?! Dat iss veird. The college is pronounced "Wide-ner"- two syllables.

Posted by: t-bird at March 01, 2020 09:43 AM (jyVW0)

88 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope everyone had a great week of reading.

Slept late, ate breakfast late, late to the book thread. I'm sensing a pattern here.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 09:43 AM (7EjX1)

89 I'm not a big fan of Stuff personally. Having a lot of stuff makes me feel like those creatures in Labyrinth that lived in the junk pile and walked around with all their possessions piled high on their back. (One tries to turn Sarah into one of them by piling all her childhood possessions onto her. I lean toward the theory that these are other girls who tried the labyrinth and failed, because they could not let go of their pasts.)

Unfortunately, my husband does not feel the same way, so when I get rid of my stuff, his stuff expands to fill the space. I managed to get everything except toothbrush, toothpaste, and soap off my bathroom counter, so now all the crap on his bathroom counter spills over onto the space on mine. Pisses me off. Good thing he's cute.

Posted by: Mrs. Peel at March 01, 2020 09:44 AM (rWZ8Y)

90 Did Franklin know Eleanor was having it on with Babe Ruth?

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 09:44 AM (+pjYf)

91 "I find television very educating. Every time someone turns on the set, I go into the other room and read a book."


- Groucho Marx, who knew that the idiot box is a tool of Stan.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy's new band is called The Swinging Epsteins at March 01, 2020 09:45 AM (HaL55)

92 There's a lethologica in my pants.

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at March 01, 2020 09:45 AM (EgshT)

93 "LETHOLOGICA is the inability to remember a word or name."

I usually just say CRS. Wish I remembered what it stood for.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 09:46 AM (7EjX1)

94 44
I may be 62, but I won't be a minimalist anytime soon. I am going to buy
the books I want, the pretty garden flowers, the "things" that please
me to use in my home, hang on my walls, or to put on a shelf. I don't
want gifts from the kids, but largely because they have poor taste. I
don't feel their inheritance needs to be hassle free, if they don't want
to empty the house they can sell the interior to an estate clean out
dealer who can auction it off. I spent plenty of time and money paying
for education and assisting the kids. If they dare mouth off about how
hard it will be to throw out stuff, I can always leave everything to
their cousins who need the money.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 09:19 AM (5wOoy)

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Some people get pleasure from getting new stuff, while I enjoy having useful stuff.

If it stops being useful, I find it annoying. I don't like having things that I don't use but have to store.

The experience of cleaning out my in-laws' house after they died is part of this and so while there's still lots of stuff I'd like to get, I also recognize that some of the stuff I have needs to go.

Like that #$%! canoe that keeps overturning and taking my guns with it.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:46 AM (cfSRQ)

95 Did Franklin know Eleanor was having it on with Babe Ruth?
Posted by: Trimegistus

The Bambino must've been blind drunk.

Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at March 01, 2020 09:46 AM (SfYbS)

96 Chuck Berry, while being pretty much a genius of that genre, was a pain in the ass to deal with. He rarely toured with a band because it was too expensive and made do with some wretched local groups while charging the full freight. He would only accept being paid in cash, like in suitcases.

He got in trouble late in life for owning a restaurant with a hidden camera in the bathroom.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 09:46 AM (y7DUB)

97 Off to enjoy the day. And read. Stay stoked, my pretties! And thanks for the Book Thread, OM!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:49 AM (Dc2NZ)

98 Is the celebrity photo a young Dana Delany?

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 09:49 AM (7EjX1)

99 I am available as an heir/beneficiary to any riche Morons in need of one

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:49 AM (G546f)

100 49
and Widener is pronounced with a V. I hear people say it like it ryhmes with Wagner, though. They say Vah-dner.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:20 AM (M69dA)

Not at Harvard, it's not:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/tq5osom

Posted by: m at March 01, 2020 09:50 AM (7juvc)

101 89: flip it. i'm the same way. i have 1/4 of one drawer in the bathroom. i spend most of the morning cleaning up her preparation. i get rid of anything, it's invaded the next day. it will eventually drive me insane. or, i will put in my own bathroom.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2020 09:50 AM (KP5rU)

102 Did Franklin know Eleanor was having it on with Babe Ruth?
Posted by: Trimegistus



He got a hint when Babe Ruth stepped into the White House,

And pointed at her pussy.


Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 09:50 AM (z0XD8)

103

Maria von Trapp said that trying to pronounce the W in words like "what" was one of the most difficult things she had to conquer when she was learning English.

Posted by: Vendette


And being Blind, Deaf and Dumb and hiding in the attic from the Nazis made it even more difficult.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:51 AM (M69dA)

104 Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 09:40 AM (+pjYf)

Heh, I also have downstairs and upstairs books. One for the chair, one for bedtime.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 09:51 AM (OX9vb)

105 chuck berry never lived up to the legend of chuck berry. he didn't care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2020 09:52 AM (KP5rU)

106 The bad news for Biden is over 20% of Dems in CA have already voted. And a ton in NC have voted too.


Bernie raised eye popping $46.5m in Feb.

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 09:53 AM (AXS9h)

107 86
I see I misspoke in #79. Ruth could have gotten it on with Eleanor in or
even before 1927. But she and Gehrig weren't together yet.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:43 AM (ZbwAu)

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Did Franklin know she was getting this much side action?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:53 AM (cfSRQ)

108 Bernie raised eye popping $46.5m in Feb.

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 09:53 AM (AXS9h)

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My eyes didn't pop. Should I see a doctor?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ)

109 OM, I love the paintings in this week's thread. Thank you for including them.

Of course, Calvin and Hobbes is always appropriate.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 09:54 AM (7EjX1)

110 Oh, yes. I've given up reading Naval history for Lent. Ouch. There are very few places in our house that don't have many of such books in them.

(Though remember, Sundays during Lent are NOT Fast Days.)

And that reminds me of something. I've thought of before, about credentials and expertise. If you polled people about who is the greatest expert today on modern warship design and systems - covering at least the 20th C - Norman Friedman would undoubtedly finish #1. Yet his first book was negatively reviewed in the Proceedings, by an admiral, for among other things, lack of a proper background. (His doctorate is in theoretical physics.)

The review didn't age well. But one point was correct. Friedman effectively turned his hobby into a career. In a review of another book, I noted once that, though generally positive, the reviewer said that what it lacked was "The Friedman touch." In matters naval, there can be no higher compliment than the parallel with Nelson.

And there's an earlier precedent. When the British fleet bombarded Alexandria in 1882, a news artist (they still had them then) was sent to cover it. He sketched all the ships involved, and so liked doing so that he got into sketching other countries's ships as well. It had become a hobby. By 1898, he had so many that he published a book, Jane's All the World's Fighting Ships.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:57 AM (ZbwAu)

111 90 Did Franklin know Eleanor was having it on with Babe Ruth?
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 09:44 AM (+pjYf)
_______

A vile slur. The Babe had standards.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:58 AM (ZbwAu)

112 My eyes didn't pop. Should I see a doctor?
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 09:54 AM (cfSRQ

You should see one regardless

Posted by: runner at March 01, 2020 09:59 AM (T3zWB)

113 Of course, Calvin and Hobbes is always appropriate.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 09:54 AM (7EjX1)
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On my bookshelf is a battered copy of Decisive Battles of the American Revolution.

I saved it not because of the writing or subject matter, but because of the flip-cartoons I drew in the margins.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:00 AM (cfSRQ)

114 Chuck Barry became famous under the business model of monetizing a hit by touring. The Stones came of age when you were rich before you bothered to tour. That business model is long gone.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 01, 2020 10:00 AM (QZCjk)

115 I posted this last night with no reaction but I thought it was funny. A German questions the use of American English in an effort to understand a fight between to bums.

https://bit.ly/2wmiFje

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (+y/Ru)

116 And being Blind, Deaf and Dumb and hiding in the attic from the Nazis made it even more difficult.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:51 AM (M69dA)

????

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (nRNOc)

117 Calvin did things worth reading about. Suzie, not so much.

Posted by: WTP at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (WQfDg)

118 I revisited an old friend this week. I've loved Eric Sloane books for many decades and got out three of them. My favorite is "A Reverence For Wood". It is a combination of American history, folk lore and practical knowledge. Then his book on weather and my second favorite, "Diary of an Early American Boy". And all with Sloane's wonderful pen and ink illustrations.

I have most of his books but should probably get the rest. They are always a pleasure to spend time with.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (7EjX1)

119 In other reading, in The People's Tragedy I had no idea that when Lenin was fucking the peasants over with collective farms and exacting onerous grain production quotas on them, the peasants fought back strongly including out and out murdering thousands of the state's agents executing the plans. I guess I'd thought that they'd been overwhelmed by the commie vermin from the get go which did not in fact happen right away.

Also in Thucydides in talking about how Athens rebuilt after the war with Persia, the Spartans suggested that maybe they shouldn't wall up their cities since if they got taken over it might be hard to remove the occupiers. To which Athens went ahead and did it anyway while pretending to agree with them; so I'm seeing where the animosity came from.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 10:02 AM (y7DUB)

120 By 1898, he had so many that he published a book, Jane's All the World's Fighting Ships.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:57 AM (ZbwAu)


I did not know that. Back when I was in the USAF in the 70's, I bought the current Jane's All The World's Aircraft. They were pricey back then, too, when you consider what an E4 made for a monthly salary.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (vWzNS)

121 The good news is Biden finally won a primary. He is a role model for perseverance. Even slow kids can win!

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (QZCjk)

122 Sarah Rafferty.

Posted by: budman at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (v4JsI)

123 121 The good news is Biden finally won a primary. He is a role model for perseverance. Even slow kids can win!
Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (QZCjk)


This is, basically, his campaign slogan now: I've been a loser! If you're a loser, vote for me!

Posted by: m at March 01, 2020 10:04 AM (7juvc)

124 Almost 1m Dems have already voted in Texas.

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 10:04 AM (AXS9h)

125 121
The good news is Biden finally won a primary. He is a role model for perseverance. Even slow kids can win!

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (QZCjk)

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Here comes the Joe-mentum!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:04 AM (cfSRQ)

126 94: Fine, no canoe. I like objects d'art. I have some exceptional delft, limoges, herend. My husband enjoys it too. I like nice furniture. If the kids prefer Ikea or Pottery Barn, that's their choice. As I said, an estate liquidation group will pay them off if it's too burdensome. They'd be wise IMO to swap their stuff for the Baker, but their choice. I'll be past caring.

I know people my age who are still kicking themselves over selling beautiful expensive things and keeping trendy junk. I was not one of those people. My sister in law said "take what you want" I did. She was going to toss the grand mirrors, the gorgeous cloisonne lamps, the lalique. She recently asked for a few pieces for her granddaughter. I declined. sister took the pedestrian gold beads and bracelets, we took the furnishings. Choices made.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 10:04 AM (5wOoy)

127 chuck berry never lived up to the legend of chuck berry. he didn't care.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2020 09:52 AM (KP5rU)



He was a great example of not-give-a-fuckism.

I guess he got what he wanted from his music, which was fresh girls and cash. And didn't care about anything else.

I had a friend years ago who was a bassist, when old Chuck Berry came into town a few years before his death.

CB or his contact in city to all appearances randomly chose my friend and a drummer.

Like the day before he came into town.

And without rehearsals or a set list, they were to get up on stage and just follow along with whatever song CB wanted to play.

My friend said the show wasn't great by any means but went okay because so many of CB's songs had similar bass and drum lines. And the most famous ones were well...Famous.

He liked playing with a legend...probably the high point of his career. He didn't like that the legend didn't give and damn and was pretty much a total asshole.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 10:04 AM (z0XD8)

128 Chuck Berry understood that Rock N Roll was a swindle.

Make da money honey.

Funny how people are surprised by that. They get all kinds of religiously on what is just simple music.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2020 10:05 AM (Z+IKu)

129 Chuck Berry, while being pretty much a genius of that genre, was a pain in the ass to deal with. He rarely toured with a band because it was too expensive and made do with some wretched local groups while charging the full freight. He would only accept being paid in cash, like in suitcases.


We were talking about Chuck Berry on break last night at the gig. He also had a clause in his contract that specified that there be a certain guitar rig (that was pretty rare, something like a certain Fender head and 2 cabs with 15" speakers) for him to use at his shows. If the promoters had a different rig, he got more money.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy's new band is called The Swinging Epsteins at March 01, 2020 10:05 AM (HaL55)

130 120
I did not know that. Back when I was in the USAF in the 70's, I bought the current Jane's All The World's Aircraft. They were pricey back then, too, when you consider what an E4 made for a monthly salary.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (vWzNS)
_______

I recall a Brit reviewing the latest one back then, and he bemoaned the fact that it had been priced out of the range of Christmas presents for a boy. He said he had an uncle who'd given him one in the 30s.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:06 AM (ZbwAu)

131
49
and Widener is pronounced with a V. I hear people say it like it ryhmes with Wagner, though. They say Vah-dner.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 09:20 AM (M69dA)

Not at Harvard, it's not:

https://preview.tinyurl.com/tq5osom

Posted by: m



Yes, it is, by most on the campus.
That tour guide/student doesn't know any better.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:07 AM (M69dA)

132 Calvin did things worth reading about. Suzie, not so much.
Posted by: WTP at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (WQfDg)


That's the way I read it. Link that cartoon with the picture of the guy with his nose in a book with a moon on the cover... meanwhile, the moon is rising behind him and his stack of books.

Every now and then, it's good to close the books and open up to the world outside.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:07 AM (hku12)

133 BTW, nice poem naturalfake.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 09:40 AM (4thlk)



Thanks, l&s.

That came out better than I thought it would.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (z0XD8)

134 If the promoters had a different rig, he got more money.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy's new band is called The Swinging Epsteins at March 01, 2020 10:05 AM (HaL55)

And no brown M&M's!!!

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (X/Pw5)

135
For shits and giggles, and don't look it up,
how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (M69dA)

136 This is not political sniping: I honestly think Joe Biden is declining into senility in public. Why hasn't his family tried to intervene? He could retire, make some speeches now and then at $1000-a-plate dinners and everyone would chuckle at his amusing gaffes, and when he died a bunch of ex-Presidents would show up to see him off.

But this? I'm reminded of a quote I read about Winston Churchill's father Randolph, who had either syphilis or a brain tumor: "He died by inches, in public."

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (+pjYf)

137 Gotta go get our Scottish breakfast from McDonalds.

No haggis is involved. BBL.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy's new band is called The Swinging Epsteins at March 01, 2020 10:10 AM (HaL55)

138 Sarah Rafferty.
Posted by: budman at March 01, 2020 10:03 AM (v4JsI)


I know nothing about her. She's lovely. Kinda looks like she'd be dumb as a post though.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:10 AM (hku12)

139 Eris,
Thanks for the excerpts fro Bored of the Rings. Even though I can probably read it with my eyes closed, your segments always make me laugh.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 10:10 AM (7EjX1)

140 I failed to point out one thing about my comment on Friedman and Jane. It must really, really pain Tom Nichols to reflect on that. Back in the day I read a couple of Nichols articles, on strategy, not politics. They made not the slightest impression. Dull and lacking in any insight.

I guarantee that the former two will be remembered and read long after Nichols is forgotten (unless he becomes a standard warning - don't let this happen to you. But I think Goldberg and French are more likely candidates for that.)

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:10 AM (ZbwAu)

141 98 Is the celebrity photo a young Dana Delany?
Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 09:49 AM (7EjX1)


Sorry, no. Correct answer is at #12.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:11 AM (l41J9)

142 136: see: chuck berry.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at March 01, 2020 10:11 AM (KP5rU)

143 I know people my age who are still kicking
themselves over selling beautiful expensive things and keeping trendy
junk. I was not one of those people. My sister in law said "take what
you want" I did. She was going to toss the grand mirrors, the gorgeous
cloisonne lamps, the lalique. She recently asked for a few pieces for
her granddaughter. I declined. sister took the pedestrian gold beads and
bracelets, we took the furnishings. Choices made.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 10:04 AM (5wOoy)

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Upgrading is different.

We're always upgrading.

My point is that the net amount of stuff is pretty stable. Books and DVDs are increasing, but the purchases are judicious, and mindful of available space. As I've written here before, I go through my books from time to time and look at what I have is being used or is useful.

I did a major purge of the collection a couple of years ago when I realized that many of my books about tanks and firearms were simply wrong. They all referenced each other and it was conventional wisdom garbage, so I got rid of them.

But I still have at least 5 copies of Lord of the Rings kicking around the house.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

144

????

Posted by: Vendette



Hellen Keller Anne Frank Von Trapp

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:11 AM (M69dA)

145 For shits and giggles, and don't look it up,
how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (M69dA)


I've always pronounced it "Oiler."

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (l41J9)

146 What Could Possibly Go Wong?

**********

Special Offer! - a limerick

For years I've been anxiously waitin'
Hoping and anticipatin'
I can now join the Club
Of Bee-el-ze-bub
With a free gift coupon for Satan

Posted by: Muldoon at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (m45I2)

147 134 If the promoters had a different rig, he got more money.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy's new band is called The Swinging Epsteins at March 01, 2020 10:05 AM (HaL55)

And no brown M&M's!!!
Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (X/Pw5)

That was in Van Halen's green room rider to their contract. They wanted to see if anybody was actually paying attention to the details.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (NWiLs)

148 This is not political sniping: I honestly think Joe
Biden is declining into senility in public. Why hasn't his family tried
to intervene? He could retire, make some speeches now and then at
$1000-a-plate dinners and everyone would chuckle at his amusing gaffes,
and when he died a bunch of ex-Presidents would show up to see him off.



But this? I'm reminded of a quote I read about Winston Churchill's
father Randolph, who had either syphilis or a brain tumor: "He died by
inches, in public."

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (+pjYf)

Can't investigate him or Hunter while Joe's running for POTUS. Would be unseemly.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (nRNOc)

149 Somebody should write a book about Chuck's Bidness Model. Lots of stories around town about him.

Posted by: klaftern at March 01, 2020 10:13 AM (RuIsu)

150 Our house growing up was a mishmash of Asian, Tropical, and Suburban Pagan that was a delight.

My dad was a flight surgeon for Apollo 11 and he was often in the pacific for missions and recovery. One summer he built a thatched palapa in the back yard and hung 3 hammocks and put up tiki torches. I remember he made banana daiquiris when they had parties. Herb Alpert was usually the sound track. Your comment brought back a flood of memories from back then.

Posted by: Drc at March 01, 2020 10:13 AM (HdZcn)

151 I recall a Brit reviewing the latest one back then,
and he bemoaned the fact that it had been priced out of the range of
Christmas presents for a boy. He said he had an uncle who'd given him
one in the 30s.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:06 AM (ZbwAu)

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It changed from a picture book for enthusiasts to a Military Establishment reference book.

Lots of money in that world. No place for amateurs.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:13 AM (cfSRQ)

152 Link that cartoon with the picture of the guy with his nose in a book with a moon on the cover... meanwhile, the moon is rising behind him and his stack of books.
=========
Funny. I noticed that as well.

Posted by: WTP at March 01, 2020 10:13 AM (WQfDg)

153 I'd say Yoo-ler, but not certain

Posted by: My life is insanity at March 01, 2020 10:14 AM (Z/jzm)

154 This is not political sniping: I honestly think Joe Biden is declining into senility in public. Why hasn't his family tried to intervene? He could retire, make some speeches now and then at $1000-a-plate dinners and everyone would chuckle at his amusing gaffes, and when he died a bunch of ex-Presidents would show up to see him off.

But this? I'm reminded of a quote I read about Winston Churchill's father Randolph, who had either syphilis or a brain tumor: "He died by inches, in public."
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (+pjYf)


It's not unlike when tyrants leave office. They don't just retire. They die off slowly, and everyone around them pretends they're not seeing what they're seeing.

History is replete with examples of this. Soviet Politburo members. English kings. So yeah, also many old American politicians.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:14 AM (hku12)

155 For shits and giggles, and don't look it up,
how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (M69dA)

Down here it's spelled "Eula".

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:14 AM (X/Pw5)

156 The streetcar riot chapter in Sister Carrie is first-person narrative. Dreiser was a reporter for a daily in Toledo when a traction-trust strike was on, and rocks were thrown. He wrote the book while staying at the kinda-famous House of The Four Pillars in Maumee. He drank at the Governor's Inn.

His brother wrote "On The Banks of The Wabash."

Capt Hate, you're not from northwest Ohio are you?You seem to know exactly whom to dislike. Big Dickens man?

Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (8IOEj)

157 Mrs. Wrecks is watching A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood. It begins with a journalist saying that he is a journalist because he can see the truths that others cannot see. Yeah, you can say that again.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)

158 155 For shits and giggles, and don't look it up,
how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (M69dA)

Down here it's spelled "Eula".
Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:14 AM (X/Pw5)

End user license agreement?

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (NWiLs)

159
I've always pronounced it "Oiler."


Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (l41J9)

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That is the correct Germanic pronunciation.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (cfSRQ)

160 Good Morning
Two things
First is I had no idea who the woman was but absolutely loved the dress.
Second....that Calvin and Hobbes struck a little to close to home.

Posted by: Sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (QzF6i)

161 how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"

Posted by: Soothsayer

I think I would say "yoo-ler." But I am a moron, and I don't really know.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:16 AM (OX9vb)

162 ...how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"

Ben at the blackboard:
"Anyone? Anyone? Euler? Euler?"

Posted by: mindful webworker
What makes you so special?
at March 01, 2020 10:16 AM (Cd8NC)

163 Eula is something you find in a vagina.

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 01, 2020 10:16 AM (QZCjk)

164 Did a lot of hobby magazine reading this week. Muzzleloader, Backwoodsman, and Fly Tyer. Hours of enjoyment. Also, a fair amount of time on various firearm forums.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 10:17 AM (7EjX1)

165
I've always pronounced it "Oiler."

Posted by: OregonMuse


Yes, me too. And so do most.
But I don't think we should make the oy sound, more like a mix of "oy" and "aw" and roll into the L.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:17 AM (M69dA)

166 Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (+pjYf)

Can't investigate him or Hunter while Joe's running for POTUS. Would be unseemly.
Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (nRNOc)


That may be part of it, but I really think this is a guy who's spent the better part of his life surrounded by people who can't tell him no.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:17 AM (hku12)

167 I only read one Clive Cussler novel, Shock Wave (a paperback loaner from my brother) and to be honest I thought it was bloody awful. I posted a scathing review about it on Amazon - it was a lot of fun to write, to be honest - and earned myself an angry response from a fan.

I like escapist adventure fiction as much as the next person but this book was just completely unbelievable and really bad (though I thought the foreword which set up the plot was quite good).

It's true that the film "Raise the Titanic" flopped, but I caught part of it on TV once and Alec Guinness has a nice little scene as a steward who escaped from the ship, if you ever run across the film.

Posted by: Dr Alice at March 01, 2020 10:18 AM (oW/8k)

168

Point is: Foreign names are stupid and a hassle, and we should Americanize everything.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:19 AM (M69dA)

169 145 For shits and giggles, and don't look it up,
how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (M69dA)

I've always pronounced it "Oiler."
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (l41J9)
______

That's how my math teachers pronounced it. So I do too.

I have seen a split on "Fermat". Most pronounced it "Furr-mat", but I have heard "Fur-may"; again, I'm referring to math teachers.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:19 AM (ZbwAu)

170 Then his book on weather and my second favorite, "Diary of an Early American Boy". And all with Sloane's wonderful pen and ink illustrations.

I have most of his books but should probably get the rest. They are always a pleasure to spend time with.
Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (7EjX1)


Very nice. I also have a couple of Eric Sloane's books. They go along with my interest in collecting antique and vintage woodworking tools. I've also got two books in my collection from Fred T Hodgson about using the Steel Square. Vol. 1, A Practical Treatise On The Steel Square and Vol. 2, Practical Uses Of The Steel Square.

Very interesting books and the information contained within those books are as practical today as when those books were published more than a hundred years ago. I've used some of the techniques in those books when I was framing houses.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 10:20 AM (vWzNS)

171 My wife says today is St. David's feast day. I asked her if I have to put a leek in my hat and dine on mutton.

I suppose we'll give the Welsh National Anthem a listen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U_1_qL7viY

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:20 AM (cfSRQ)

172 Never watched Suits. I do recall Sara from commercials for Suits when watching Burn Notice.

Was she not one of the folks in the hacked phone pics a few years back?

Guess you really could not post those pics for a who is this with out getting in trouble.

Posted by: Big V at March 01, 2020 10:21 AM (XEC2p)

173
Who says Vah-gner? I don't.
But people do. And at Harvard, they say Vie-dner.

Just like some people say Barthelona.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:21 AM (M69dA)

174 And tomorrow, a doctor with a flashlight will explain Set Theory.

Posted by: klaftern at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (RuIsu)

175 CN, I'm going to support you regarding your enjoyment of your fine things.

I like a spartan environment, but my husband likes lots of stuff. He served in the Marines for ten years, and says he can do without things, but he likes things. So, who am I to say we don't need KISS Mr. Potato Heads or a Trumpy Bear? They look cool in the library.

And we like nice furniture, whether new or from someone else's estate sale.

I kinda dread the day my mother passes on and we have to clear out her house, but, like you say, we can get an estate dealer to do it for us. She likes her stuff, doesn't want to get rid of it, and I'm not going to tell her otherwise.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (OX9vb)

176 157 Mrs. Wrecks is watching A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood. It begins with a journalist saying that he is a journalist because he can see the truths that others cannot see. Yeah, you can say that again.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (+y/Ru)
_______

The only actual journalist I know of whom that fits is Chesterton. And boy would they hate him now.

I've also got GKC's Everlasting Man in the living room, for when my wife is watching something.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (ZbwAu)

177 I'll knock your leek about your pate!

Posted by: Ancient Pistol at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (+pjYf)

178 History is replete with examples of this. Soviet
Politburo members. English kings. So yeah, also many old American
politicians.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:14 AM (hku12)

---
Campaign staff only get paid while there is a campaign.

So yes, they're going to keep the gravy train flowing as long as they can.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:24 AM (cfSRQ)

179 That may be part of it, but I really think this is a
guy who's spent the better part of his life surrounded by people who
can't tell him no.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:17 AM (hku12)

He's a professional politician. Out of office too long and you get the itch to get back in.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:24 AM (nRNOc)

180 But this? I'm reminded of a quote I read about Winston Churchill's father Randolph, who had either syphilis or a brain tumor: "He died by inches, in public."
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 10:09 AM (+pjYf)


Probably lupus then.

Posted by: Dr House at March 01, 2020 10:25 AM (d4mMH)

181
Mathematicians have funny name.

Oiler
Boole
Euclid
Fibonacci
Pythagoras





Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:25 AM (M69dA)

182 Capt Hate, you're not from northwest Ohio are you?You seem to know exactly whom to dislike. Big Dickens man?
Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at March 01, 2020 10:15 AM (8IOEj)


I'm originally from Maryland but have spent almost a half century in Northeast Ahia. I like Dickens ok, not as much as some members of my book group but don't dislike him. I liked Tale of Two Cities a lot.

Dreiser being a journalist makes sense because he describes physical events better than internal ones imo.

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 10:25 AM (y7DUB)

183 I also confess to being underwhelmed by Clive Cussler's books, at least his more recent ones. His novel Sahara motivated me to write a novel of my own just to show I could do better. (Not in sales, though.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 10:26 AM (+pjYf)

184 Cantor
L'Hopital
Dyson

Posted by: leoncaruthers at March 01, 2020 10:26 AM (UfRqq)

185 I've read Marie Kondo's book and have tried, in a half-hearted manner, tried to apply it.
In fact one of the last projects my late wife and I did together was take a Kondo approach to our clothing. We ended up getting rid of a huge pile of clothing. We didn't say thank you to the clothing we were casting off but we did pick up every piece of clothing individually.
It's a fond.
My house is messy and cluttered but minimalism in possessions has a certain appeal to me.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 01, 2020 10:26 AM (Uu+Jp)

186 I kinda dread the day my mother passes on and we have to clear out her house, but, like you say, we can get an estate dealer to do it for us. She likes her stuff, doesn't want to get rid of it, and I'm not going to tell her otherwise.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (OX9vb)

I moved into a new house 10 years ago. While moving I rented a 20yd. dumpster...and filled it twice. Eventually, "stuff" becomes "clutter".

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:26 AM (X/Pw5)

187 173
Who says Vah-gner? I don't.
But people do. And at Harvard, they say Vie-dner.

Just like some people say Barthelona.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:21 AM (M69dA)
_______

Vah-gner wrote opera. Wagner played shortstop.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:27 AM (ZbwAu)

188 But I still have at least 5 copies of Lord of the Rings kicking around the house.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)


Yeah, same here. During every finals week in college, and after I had stuffed my brain with shaft design equations, carbon carbon diagrams, and Marks Machinery Handbook charts, I would take a day or two and read 1000 pages of LOTR. Got me through it.

Posted by: JC. Idaho bot. at March 01, 2020 10:27 AM (377Zs)

189 177
I'll knock your leek about your pate!

Posted by: Ancient Pistol at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (+pjYf)

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I think it's swell that the Welsh have chosen a song about domestic violence as their unofficial anthem.

As Mark Steyn wrote, there's something surreal about watching 40,000 beery boyos belt out "I felt the knife in my hand and she laughed no more" at a rugger stadium.

My personal favorite is where the Welsh Guards band plays it and the crowd sings along because they all know the words.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)

190 Anyone read The Inheritors by Golding?

Posted by: Mel Gibson at March 01, 2020 10:30 AM (QZCjk)

191
Damn that red headed librarian is stacked and overdue a fine time in my braille boudoir.

Posted by: saf at March 01, 2020 10:30 AM (5IHGB)

192 one of the world's most comprehen­sive research collec­tions in the humanities and social sciences.

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I wonder how many of those books are complete bollocks?

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at March 01, 2020 10:30 AM (d6mdH)

193 You never know what can happen on St. David's day. Even the start of a dance craze:

youtube.com/watch?v=Z7MC8Lw5e9Q

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 01, 2020 10:31 AM (NWiLs)

194 and we should Americanize everything.

Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:19 AM (M69dA)



I have to agree with this.

If you visit a foreign country, the folk there never, and I mean never ever get all twisted about pronouncing American words or names with a precise American style or hell even British style accent.

And they sure as hell don't get all nuts about stuff like pronouncing Bejing as Peking or Peping or whatever their version is.

Everyone knows what you mean anyway.

Let it go, a-holes.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 10:32 AM (z0XD8)

195 An excerpt from Imperium, regarding the Russians' destruction of anything religious:

"This is how at the time we reasoned about it in class: When the Bolsheviks were marching toward us...before they saw our town, they must have first caught a glimpse of the towers of the Pinsk church. They were that high. This apparently irritated them very much. Why? We didn't know how to answer that question. But we concluded it was irritation solely from the fact that as soon as the Russians entered the town, before they had taken a breather, before they'd had a look around to see which street is where, before they'd had a good meal and before they'd taken a few drags on their cheap tobacco, they had already set up a cannon in the square and started firing at the church."

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:32 AM (OX9vb)

196 hiya

not first

Posted by: JT at March 01, 2020 10:33 AM (arJlL)

197 That may be part of it, but I really think this is a
guy who's spent the better part of his life surrounded by people who
can't tell him no.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:17 AM (hku12)

He's a professional politician. Out of office too long and you get the itch to get back in.
Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:24 AM (nRNOc)


Again, I think that's only part of it.

I think there's something more sinister going on here, in that people like Biden are used to being able to do anything they want, as long as they stay within the guidelines of the public persona. And even that, he's burst through in a couple ways that SHOULD sink a politician: His inability to keep his hands off small children and teens, and his plagiarism... both the stuff people know about, and no doubt all those bizarre stories he tells.

No, Biden is a guy who has contempt for ordinary people. He uses them. They're toys to him, and goddammit, you're going to get the F out of his way, when he wants him, and how DARE anybody tell him he can't do something.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)

198 "Because, I think it's just more stuff my kids are going to have to figure out what to do with when I'm gone, so what's the point, really?"


this hits home with me this morning OM. Dads funeral was yesterday and now we have to deal with clearing and cleaning his house.
Unfortunately all I'm reading right now is billing statements, legal documents, and insurance info. Bleh.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (myjNJ)

199 I moved into a new house 10 years ago. While moving I rented a 20yd. dumpster...and filled it twice. Eventually, "stuff" becomes "clutter".
Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:26 AM (X/Pw5)

When we moved from Ohio to Wyoming, we took about 20 truckloads to Volunteers of America. When we had to move back, gave stuff away like crazy. And five years later, we've accumulated some more.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:35 AM (OX9vb)

200 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 10:01 AM (+y/Ru)

"Your face look like a goose" is going into my bag o' insults!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 10:35 AM (QLlrr)

201 LETHOLOGICA is the inability to remember a word or name.

I think I'll remember tituba !

Posted by: JT at March 01, 2020 10:35 AM (arJlL)

202 temp is 34F
doggeh says time to walk
doggeh is insane

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:36 AM (G546f)

203 Now they record to support touring.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 01, 2020 10:36 AM (Ndje9)

204 One thing I enjoyed about being in the military was-

since you got moved every few years,

you got to throw out all the crap that you never used or which had been building up.

Now that I'm all stationary and such, my house is Crapville USA.

I guess I star unloading more books and keeping only those I love or can't find kindle versions for.



Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 10:37 AM (z0XD8)

205

3.5 Million books !!! Take me a lifetime just to read the titles so I would ask that hot red headed library lass to
read the dirty bits 4 feet up the ladder...................wot's the WORD again? Thongologia!!!...just crack the missive open a wee bit more.

Posted by: saf at March 01, 2020 10:38 AM (5IHGB)

206 189 177
I'll knock your leek about your pate!

Posted by: Ancient Pistol at March 01, 2020 10:23 AM (+pjYf)

---
I think it's swell that the Welsh have chosen a song about domestic violence as their unofficial anthem.

As Mark Steyn wrote, there's something surreal about watching 40,000 beery boyos belt out "I felt the knife in my hand and she laughed no more" at a rugger stadium.

My personal favorite is where the Welsh Guards band plays it and the crowd sings along because they all know the words.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:27 AM (cfSRQ)
_______

That boggles my mind. Especially given that they already have Men of Harlech. (IMO, only France has a better national song.)

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 10:39 AM (ZbwAu)

207 RI gets its first virus case.


Was it JS?


Hmmm

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 10:39 AM (AXS9h)

208 Vmom,

I enjoyed your recent reminiscences on your blog about growing up in the San Fernando Valley and other places. The Valley area is very built up now, unfortunately. You likely wouldn't recognize a lot of it.

Posted by: Dr Alice at March 01, 2020 10:40 AM (oW/8k)

209 No, Biden is a guy who has contempt for ordinary people. He uses them. They're toys to him, and goddammit, you're going to get the F out of his way, when he wants him, and how DARE anybody tell him he can't do something.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)


That came across loud and clear in the lying dog faced pony soldier comment, which is very insulting in content but was just tossed off in a genial tone. What's for damn sure is that he was counting on the recipient not firing back with "eat shit, old man".

Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 10:41 AM (y7DUB)

210 Uncle Joe is lethological. Also less than logical.

Sir Winston: "Communist or a Nazi tyranny--they are the same things spelt in different ways."

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at March 01, 2020 10:41 AM (Ndje9)

211 In my effort to understand the future history of America, as Bernie would have it, I'm reading Mao: The Unknown Story, by the writing team of Jung Chang (previously wrote [Wild Swans) and Jon Halliday.

It's a remarkable book. Chang is one of those amazing people who seems to have packed four lives into one, starting off as a Red Guard in China, somehow escaping when she became disillusioned and made her way to the UK, picked up a PhD in Linguistics at York (anyone can do that, right?) and is now a famous novelist. Halliday has written eight previous books (his book cover bio says, and has lectured on and off at University College London, so also crazy smart).

Somehow, they've been given access to CCP archives and have thoroughly documented Mao's despicable life. I'm only at age thirty five and he's finally making a play to run the entire Red Army, if only Stalin will give permission, but his life has already shaped up as one long killing spree interspersed with high living and various wife and child abandonments. Every major world event is entirely viewed by Mao through the lens of "Can I torture someone? And, what should I eat now and how's my constipation?"
Amazing book so far. As the imperial government withered away and China entered into decades of warlord rule, the Russian-dominated CCP completely infiltrated the Nationalist Party on the theory no self-respecting Chinese would voluntarily want communism. Chiang Kai-Shek was a tool of the communists who dominated the military structure under him, initially by subterfuge and then by blackmail (the Russkies kidnapped his son and held him in Moscow for years). Finally, the CCP threw off the mask (to became Democratic Socialists) and began the campaign of centralization and state terror that eventually brought them to primacy.

Sound familiar?

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 01, 2020 10:42 AM (NVYyb)

212 think it's swell that the Welsh have chosen a song about domestic violence as their unofficial anthem.

As my brother says about his ex-wife...If I'd killed her when I met her, I'd be getting out today.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 10:43 AM (vWzNS)

213 Well, off to mass.

Buy my book! I'll be absent next week.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at March 01, 2020 10:43 AM (cfSRQ)

214 Again, I think that's only part of it.



I think there's something more sinister going on here, in that
people like Biden are used to being able to do anything they want, as
long as they stay within the guidelines of the public persona. And even
that, he's burst through in a couple ways that SHOULD sink a
politician: His inability to keep his hands off small children and
teens, and his plagiarism... both the stuff people know about, and no
doubt all those bizarre stories he tells.



No, Biden is a guy who has contempt for ordinary people. He uses
them. They're toys to him, and goddammit, you're going to get the F out
of his way, when he wants him, and how DARE anybody tell him he can't
do something.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)

I get your point, and I agree that he has a cranky streak, but:

He's a gladhander. Willing to shake any hand available.

Also, I think he gets away with a bunch of stuff because of his age. Politicians these days wouldn't get away with what politicians even 20 years ago would. For people like him it's just excused.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:44 AM (nRNOc)

215 Reading "The Professor and the Madman" by Simon Winchester. Subtitle: "A Tale of Murder, Insanity, and the Making of the Oxford English Dictionary." It's probably been mentioned before on the book thread, but a recap anyway...The editor compiling the OED receives almost 10,000 entries via mail from a William Minor. After two decades of correspondence, the editor goes to meet Minor and finds out he's an inmate in an asylum for criminal lunatics. Not a fan of Winchester's florid prose and liberties with descriptions, but the story is good enough to overlook it.

Posted by: Dwight at March 01, 2020 10:44 AM (hnwLO)

216 Just like some people say Barthelona.
Posted by: Soothsayer, now with a gentle glide applicator tip at March 01, 2020 10:21 AM (M69dA)


Isn't that the correct pronunciation if you're speaking Castilian Spanish?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:45 AM (l41J9)

217 Oddly, it used to be that the opposite effect
occurred in England, among some people. From Dickens I get the
impression it was a class thing, but anyway, people would pronounce
"very" as "werry", etc.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 09:40 AM (ZbwAu)


In the South of England and Cornwall there is a tendency to labialize the W to a V.
Killick in O'Brien's books does that consistently, but it is a very old thing and is used in philology to determine where certain manuscripts were from and when they were produced originally.

Of course for Dickens it was prpbably to provide "character" to his characters, and to show that they were not Londoners or central culture or whatever. Dickens was writing in a period where there was a drive to homogenize.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2020 10:46 AM (6rS3m)

218 this is an ok summary of the WHO's findings from China on the coronavirus by some redditor

https://twitter.com/votermom/status/
1234136601242087424

this is the concerning part

"5% of people who are diagnosed with Covid require artificial respiration. Another 15% need to breathe in highly concentrated oxygen - and not just for a few days. The duration from the beginning of the disease until recovery is 3 to 6 weeks on average for these severe and critical patients (compared to only 2 weeks for the mildly ill)."

the good news is most infections are from prolonged close in-family contact, rather than casual public exposure at a distance

since we typically don't pack ppl together as tightly as the Chinese, we should experience less h2h infections imo

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:46 AM (G546f)

219 No, Biden is a guy who has contempt for ordinary people. He uses them. They're toys to him, and goddammit, you're going to get the F out of his way, when he wants him, and how DARE anybody tell him he can't do something.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)

That's why I have a hard time working up sympathy for Joe, although I do think his family should intervene if they actually care for him.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 01, 2020 10:47 AM (Uu+Jp)

220 Sorry for your loss, Madammayham. I hate the way you are expected to grieve and deal with all this other stuff too. At least Zi don't have to rush going through the stuff here.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at March 01, 2020 10:47 AM (Lqy/e)

221 Yet here in the Philly area Widener U is pronounced with a W, but then the German was taken out of the learned around WWI.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 10:47 AM (ZCEU2)

222 Posted by: Dwight at March 01, 2020 10:44 AM (hnwLO)

========

Sorry you're not a fan of his writing style but I agree it's a fantastic story. Relatively quick read and you can learn some very interesting history along the way.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 01, 2020 10:48 AM (NVYyb)

223 I was genuinely sad to hear about Clive Cussler passing. I enjoyed his books (the ones he actually wrote) from the beginning. The over the tops plots and characters were just plain fun. True escapist reading.

At the last purge, we got rid of many of Cussler's books. But I kept the early ones and the Isaac Bell stories, which I still enjoy even though his contribution was minor.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 10:48 AM (7EjX1)

224 Isn't that the correct pronunciation if you're speaking Castilian Spanish?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:45 AM (l41J9)

thi, thinior

my pet peeve is Mexican's sayung j in place of y

Jo instead of yo

buncha yokers

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:48 AM (G546f)

225 I moved into a new house 10 years ago. While moving I rented a 20yd. dumpster...and filled it twice. Eventually, "stuff" becomes "clutter".
Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 10:26 AM (X/Pw5)

Depends on the stuff. People who buy beanie babies, 200 pairs of shoes, and keep every worn out handbag, sweater or textbook have clutter. People who develop a collection that retains value, or grows in value do not. Many "kids" of various ages look at parents' and grandparents' things as clutter. When they sell it cheap and someone gets good money at auction, they get pissed off. Oh well. Some kids should take an interest and find out why mom has a collection of odd looking European silver and bronzes, or why dad's "old books" are important to him. It might be more than sentimentality of old age. The expensive stuff that people bring to antiques roadshow, that the person got at a flea market, started in someone's home.

I really don't anticipate that my kids will throw valuables out on the street. When they were 20, yes, but now they have an appreciation and their 30 something friends are figuring it out too. My kid in DC says that when friends come over they ask questions about the furnishings and art that came from me.

Maybe my generation did a disservice by not explaining purchases (why you don't buy shitty Chinese dishes), but I think some kids, with their fancy for midcentury modern "stuff", are catching on. There will always be people who profess that any old table works as well as another, just as their are people who bought yugos.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 10:48 AM (ONvIw)

226
"Reading "The Professor and the Madman" by Simon Winchester."


I cheated, I watched the movie. It wasn't bad.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 10:49 AM (4thlk)

227 naturalfake - permission to reprint Goodbye, Moon on my 'other people's stuff' blog? with proper link and credit, of course.

mindfulwebworker.wordpress.com/

Posted by: mindful webworker
What makes you so special?
at March 01, 2020 10:49 AM (Cd8NC)

228 Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)

I get your point, and I agree that he has a cranky streak, but:

He's a gladhander. Willing to shake any hand available.

Also, I think he gets away with a bunch of stuff because of his age. Politicians these days wouldn't get away with what politicians even 20 years ago would. For people like him it's just excused.
Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:44 AM (nRNOc)

He's evil. That's my point.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:49 AM (hku12)

229 Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)

That came across loud and clear in the lying dog faced pony soldier comment, which is very insulting in content but was just tossed off in a genial tone. What's for damn sure is that he was counting on the recipient not firing back with "eat shit, old man".
Posted by: Captain Hate at March 01, 2020 10:41 AM (y7DUB)


I lay 50/50 odds Joe drops the N word on the campaign trail at some point in the next few weeks.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:51 AM (hku12)

230 195 An excerpt from Imperium, regarding the Russians' destruction of anything religious:

"This is how at the time we reasoned about it in class: When the Bolsheviks were marching toward us...before they saw our town, they must have first caught a glimpse of the towers of the Pinsk church. They were that high. This apparently irritated them very much. Why? We didn't know how to answer that question. But we concluded it was irritation solely from the fact that as soon as the Russians entered the town, before they had taken a breather, before they'd had a look around to see which street is where, before they'd had a good meal and before they'd taken a few drags on their cheap tobacco, they had already set up a cannon in the square and started firing at the church."

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:32 AM (OX9vb)


( *raises hand, waves it wildly* )

I know! I know! Call on me! Call on me!

Recites: "Because the Bolsheviks were officially atheists who did not believe there was anything higher than the state. And the lofty spires or the Pinsk church suggested that wasn't true, therefore the church had to be destroyed. The End."

( *smiles smugly* )

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:51 AM (l41J9)

231 No, Biden is a guy who has contempt for ordinary people. He uses them. They're toys to him, and goddammit, you're going to get the F out of his way, when he wants him, and how DARE anybody tell him he can't do something.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (hku12)

That's why I have a hard time working up sympathy for Joe, although I do think his family should intervene if they actually care for him.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 01, 2020 10:47 AM (Uu+Jp)


I believe his wife is as sociopathic as he is. So yeah, no, I don't expect he's got "family" to tell him what's good for him.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:52 AM (hku12)

232 Calvin up top reminds me of my stepdaughter. She's basically a nuclear weapon of cuteness. But she has a dark side. A cute dark side.

She recently spent all day making a cheerful, brightly colored flipbook of the death of the solar system, as the sun swells and swallows up the inner planets and Earth.

Now, she's working on one to illustrate what would happen if the outer planets were to suddenly vanish and the Kuiper Belt were to collapse, pelting Earth to pieces with giant space rocks.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 10:53 AM (bQe8/)

233 Sorry for your loss, Madammayham. I hate the way you are expected to grieve and deal with all this other stuff too. At least Zi don't have to rush going through the stuff here.
Posted by: Notsothoreau

Thank you. We are fortunate that we can take our time to do some of this stuff too. My older brother, Thing One, has to travel for work. He is scheduled to deploy in two weeks and will be gone a few months. So we either rush to get it done before or chill until he gets back. It's a pain in the ass but it is what it is.

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2020 10:54 AM (myjNJ)

234 Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 01, 2020 10:48 AM (NVYyb)

=========

Thanks Huck, it is a fun read, and I may actually learn something. Probably overstated my dislike of the style. I think the opening scene of the murder is what turned me off...he didn't need to embellish or fill-in-the-blanks of the scene with speculative history. The rest of the book seems mostly free of such and his writing is engaging.

Posted by: Dwight at March 01, 2020 10:54 AM (hnwLO)

235 Also, I think he gets away with a bunch of stuff because of his age. Politicians these days wouldn't get away with what politicians even 20 years ago would. For people like him it's just excused.
Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:44 AM (nRNOc)


I think he gets away with a bunch of stuff because he's a *Democrat.* I'm old enough to remember when Dan Quayle was pretty much chased out of public life because he misspelled 'potato.'

Joe's a walking gaffe machine and the MSM simply ignores it.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:55 AM (l41J9)

236 MM

I did not know you lost your dad. So sad. My condolences, for what little they may be worth.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 10:56 AM (bQe8/)

237 Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:32 AM (OX9vb)

( *raises hand, waves it wildly* )

I know! I know! Call on me! Call on me!

Recites: "Because the Bolsheviks were officially atheists who did not believe there was anything higher than the state. And the lofty spires or the Pinsk church suggested that wasn't true, therefore the church had to be destroyed. The End."

( *smiles smugly* )
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:51 AM (l41J9)


Norm MacDonald has one of those jokes he tells in various settings, and his particular genius is saying things that are true, saying them in ways that are hilariously funny, and saying them while keeping that "aren't I a stinker" look on his face.

He tells one about the whole "teachers are heroes" nonsense, and it's a long rant about how there are more teachers raping kids than priests. And nobody goes around saying "priests are heroes."

Trust me, it's funny when he says it.

So anyhoo, yeah. The left has to destroy the Church. Thou shalt have no God before them.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (hku12)

238 ( *smiles smugly* )
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:51 AM (l41J9)

Nice job! Here's your sticker!

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (OX9vb)

239 haven't been reading lately
been learning Italian on duolingo - very game-like

do I continue learnibg Italian even though the coronavirus killed our trip?

effing Italy didn't even colonize any nearby countries so it's kinda useless elsewhere...

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)

240 Celebrity falls.

Okra tumbles.

https://pge.sx/2TbK1S9

Madonna too.

https://pge.sx/38ctTnN

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (+y/Ru)

241 Dean Koontz 1981 thriller The Eyes of Darkness describes a killer virus named Wuhan-400 after the Chinese city it originated in.

https://tinyurl.com/t9fl6rj

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 10:58 AM (Orx/W)

242 this hits home with me this morning OM. Dads funeral was yesterday and now we have to deal with clearing and cleaning his house.
Unfortunately all I'm reading right now is billing statements, legal documents, and insurance info. Bleh.
Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2020 10:34 AM (myjNJ)


I'm sorry for your loss. My brothers and sisters and I went through the same process when our parents died in 2012. We learned a bunch of stuff about wills and death certificates and trusts that we'll never need to use again. Weird.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:58 AM (l41J9)

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 10:59 AM (bQe8/)

244 Madamemayhem, hugs and prayers

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:59 AM (G546f)

245 Two things about Joe. He is running cover for Clinton / Obama / Bidens and the Dems know they are going to lose so who better?

Once he loses they will start with the "stolen votes" and impeachments to distract and maybe Joe will just fade away along with all that other stuff.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2020 10:59 AM (Tnijr)

246 Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 10:44 AM (nRNOc)

I think he gets away with a bunch of stuff because he's a *Democrat.* I'm old enough to remember when Dan Quayle was pretty much chased out of public life because he misspelled 'potato.'

Joe's a walking gaffe machine and the MSM simply ignores it.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 10:55 AM (l41J9)


Or Sarah Palin, who was laughed off the stage for things she never even said, but were said by a "comedy" show doing a parody of her.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:00 AM (hku12)

247 Lol

Biden calls Chris Wallace......chuck.

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 11:00 AM (AXS9h)

248 do I continue learnibg Italian even though the coronavirus killed our trip?

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)

Heck yes!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:00 AM (QLlrr)

249 235 Also, I think he gets away with a bunch of stuff because of his age.


one the great perks of getting old

now, get off my lawn !!

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2020 11:00 AM (rpxSz)

250 Ive seen Tremors but I don't remember Rafferty at all. Its been a while, though.

This week I read Murder by Misrule by Anna Castle. Its a mystery set in the reign of Elizabeth I with a young Francis Bacon as the detective. He has several young law students he tutors and he gets them to help him investigate. The young guys are loads of fun, being boyish and up to various highjinks, inventing songs to woo girls with and troubling with fancy clothes and arguing over the proper size of a ruff.

The characters are well-written, the setting well-portrayed, and the feel is authentic. It wasn't a tremendously complicated mystery, and there were several deliberate ploys to slow things down and force the resolution to be at a properly dramatic moment, but not in an annoying way.

Also I listened to the audio version of The Expressman and the Detective by Allan Pinkerton. The book is a bit dry and reads more like a report by a detective than a novel, but it has some surprisingly hilarious bits and is interesting for various historical reasons.

The investigation is of a robbery of an express company (probably Wells Fargo, although Pinkerton is careful to disguise all names and references) in Antebellum south. Supposedly its based on a real case. Pinkerton wrote several books, and of particular modern interest is that the operative who solves the case the most is a woman who Pinkerton believes is the first professional female detective.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:01 AM (KZzsI)

251 thanks Jordan61

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:01 AM (G546f)

252 He tells one about the whole "teachers are heroes" nonsense, and it's a long rant about how there are more teachers raping kids than priests. And nobody goes around saying "priests are heroes."
Trust me, it's funny when he says it.
So anyhoo, yeah. The left has to destroy the Church. Thou shalt have no God before them.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (hku12)


I just recently read the statistics: More teachers rape kids than priests do. *Way more*. It's not even close.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:01 AM (l41J9)

253 Biden says Ebola was a transpandemic.

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 11:01 AM (AXS9h)

254 He gets away with it because the media will not ridicule him for it. They are under orders, hands off Joe.

Posted by: freaked at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (Tnijr)

255 I mean, I'm guessing you're going to want to try and go again at some point, right? I was doing the Duolingo Italian lessons but I've been bad about it lately.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (QLlrr)

256 Tuesday night it will become a lot clearer

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (ZCEU2)

257 Holy shit, OM EDITED his bollocksed up comment to dodge his embarrelment like he was Lisa Page with a 302.

Two Systems of Justice! AoS, Not DoJ!

Why must you turn this comments section into a House of Lies?!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (bQe8/)

258 Good Night, Moon. The perfect book for the age of coronavirus.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (+y/Ru)

259 Also I am currently reading The Caine Mutiny, which is a very good book. I did really enjoy the film, which was rich and well told with great performances, but the book is excellent writing and has much more detail and background.

In the film, you almost get the feeling that the first captain is a hapless incompetent, but in the book, you realize that is merely the protagonist's perspective, a frustrated spoiled boy who is too young and callow to understand what and why the captain does what he does.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:03 AM (KZzsI)

260 I was doing the Duolingo Italian lessons but I've been bad about it lately.
Posted by: Jordan61

ooh ... do you want my duolingo user name?
don't they allow a friend thingy?
if you email me (in nic) I can send it to you

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:03 AM (G546f)

261 effing Italy didn't even colonize any nearby countries so it's kinda useless elsewhere...

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)

Theres still so many different dialects. Friends returned form a trip a few months ago and saw family. Friends coming from other regions had difficult time understanding each other still. My mother spoke and wrote Italian and when we had visitors form the 'old country' it was struggle to communicate. TV finally gave Italy somewhat of a common language. When We went (3 times so far) we used a phone translator which worked well mostly.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:03 AM (Orx/W)

262 Hey Ha, if you're ever bored on a Tuesday night come over to the Rock City Grill and say hi! I'll be the one at the table with all the senior citizens.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:04 AM (QLlrr)

263 As I've said before, I stopped reading books on politics and current events. They seem to crop up like mushrooms in a wet lawn: frequent and short lasting. What I get from Ace postings (JJ's is outstanding) is enough to stay informed on such matters.

This frees up huge amounts of time to enjoy the written word again. Books that are worth the the time and will stay with a body.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:04 AM (7EjX1)

264 OMG.. Redhead from Suits. Wow. Just wow.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:04 AM (Orx/W)

265 YD, how is Vanessa doing?

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 11:04 AM (nRNOc)

266 I'd say Yoo-ler, but not certain
Posted by: My life is insanity


Me too-ler !

Posted by: JT at March 01, 2020 11:04 AM (arJlL)

267 Biden's Walter Mitty fantasies would have ended the political career of anyone who isn't a Democrat.
I also don't get where a softhanded career politician gets the notion he's a tough guy.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 01, 2020 11:05 AM (Uu+Jp)

268 I just recently read the statistics: More teachers rape kids than priests do. *Way more*. It's not even close.

FBI stats, more than 100:1. And I doubt that teachers have 100 times the access to kids that priests do. But, as many have said before: predators go where the prey is. And these days, its trendy to teach topics that are basically grooming kids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:05 AM (KZzsI)

269 I always check out These Pants, just to see what my wardrobe is missing. Looks like I'll save some money this week.
I will let my eyes linger on the lovely, luscious, and no doubt lively ginger though.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM (axyOa)

270 we used a phone translator which worked well mostly.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:03 AM (Orx/W)

You know, for every hundred times I say "what a stupid time to be alive," there is one of these. Sometimes it's a great time to be alive.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM (OX9vb)

271 there are more teachers raping kids than priests.

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New alter boy uniforms.

https://bit.ly/2wShl87

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM (+y/Ru)

272 Holy shit, OM EDITED his bollocksed up comment to dodge his embarrelment like he was Lisa Page with a 302.

Two Systems of Justice! AoS, Not DoJ!

Why must you turn this comments section into a House of Lies?!
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (bQe8/)


I want to write a short story sometime, about the corruption of the Deep State, where everyone uses a number and not a name.

So there will be your Agent 007s and that sort of thing, but one particularly sinister fellow, hovering in the background, will be Doctor 302.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM (hku12)

273 Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:46 AM (G546f)

Extrapolating those numbers to the general population is almost certainly wrong.

Nobody has answered the obvious question: how many sub-clinical cases of coronavirus are there? The total number of infections might be astronomical.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2020 11:07 AM (dLLD6)

274 I'm studying Biblical Hebrew and am finding it to be profoundly difficult.

Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at March 01, 2020 11:07 AM (Uu+Jp)

275 how do you all pronounce the name "Euler?"

Posted by: Soothsayer

Its pronounced like "oiler"

Posted by: drerbrererd at March 01, 2020 11:07 AM (WSxOd)

276 I'll knock your leek about your pate!

Some times, ya just gotta take a leek !

Posted by: JT at March 01, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)

277 I want to write a short story sometime, about the corruption of the Deep State, where everyone uses a number and not a name.
=========

Sounds like the old song, Secret Agent Man

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 01, 2020 11:08 AM (NVYyb)

278 Vmom, your link takes me to your page; where is the email? I'm trying it on my phone, do I need to be on a computer?

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:09 AM (QLlrr)

279 Thank you YD. It matters.

And thank you OM. I learned all that crap over 20 years ago when my first husband passed at age 30. That's why Dad put me in charge of the financial shit. He knew I had been there and done that. It actually helps me deal with that loss. I have to focus on something other than sadness. I'm still pissed off at the laundry. It thinks it's important when the fucking world stopped at 2o'clock Tuesday morning. Just who does that shit think it is? Curb stomping a batch of uppity laundry is probably less than sensible isn't it?

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2020 11:09 AM (myjNJ)

280 I did forget Leftifornia votes like 2 weeks after the election, time to find all those ballots in trunks, basements, union halls and such. So maybe in 3 Tuesdays it will be clear.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 11:09 AM (ZCEU2)

281 there are more teachers raping kids than priests.

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New alter boy uniforms.

https://bit.ly/2wShl87
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM (+y/Ru)


Heh. I thought I was going to regret following the link.

Everybody knows though, the problem isn't out there during the ceremony, it's the changing room in the back.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:09 AM (hku12)

282 That was in Van Halen's green room rider to their contract. They wanted to see if anybody was actually paying attention to the details.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 01, 2020 10:12 AM (NWiLs)

Apparently, there have been safety issues involved, if not for Van Halen, then other groups. Power leads mis-phased, floor loads not accommodated, even lifts for "flying". They put the brown M&Ms clause way down in the rider. If they saw brown M&Ms in the green room, they knew to check the technical set-up very carefully.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 01, 2020 11:10 AM (qyH+l)

283 As for reading, I went back to some of my grandmother's favorites and read Elizabeth Goudge's The Rosemary Tree. The author was a woman but her work was not "chick lit". The Rosemary Tree deals with post WWII England and characters coming to grips with how their lives were altered. As is usual for Goudge, whose father was a minister, spirituality plays a role. Her stuff is beautifully written and deals with a broad range of human suffering and emotion and how people try to cope and come to adapt.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:10 AM (ONvIw)

284 jordan61

not the link - just email votermom at g mail
dot com

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:10 AM (G546f)

285 268 I just recently read the statistics: More teachers rape kids than priests do. *Way more*. It's not even close.

FBI stats, more than 100:1. And I doubt that teachers have 100 times the access to kids that priests do. But, as many have said before: predators go where the prey is. And these days, its trendy to teach topics that are basically grooming kids.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:05 AM (KZzsI)

Also, in imho and experience. Female teachers don't grow up in college. They come back to teach and there's no clear line between teacher and student. The teacher is not an authority figure any more. "You have to earn your students respect". They're more like friends and guess what happens.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:10 AM (Orx/W)

286 Madamemayhem, sorry for your loss.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:11 AM (ONvIw)

287 BBC is getting into hot water for SJW'ing its adaptations of novels, and they're all huffy about it

The BBC’s head of drama has insisted that ‘woke’ is not a dirty word, as he argued that the corporation must “repurpose” classic novels by giving them female, black and Asian characters.

Period dramas based on stories written 100 or more years ago have to be made more diverse for a 21st century British audience, said Piers Wenger, otherwise the BBC would be “in dereliction of our duty”.

He was responding to criticism of two recent BBC One adaptations: The War of the Worlds, in which a minor female character from the original HG Wells novel was turned into the heroine of the piece; and A Christmas Carol, in which Bob Cratchit had a mixed-raced family and Ebenezer Scrooge blackmailed Mrs Cratchit for sex.


This is the problem with film and TV adaptations of books; yes you get paid a lot as the author (not as much as you should, but a lot) yet look at what they do to your story

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:12 AM (KZzsI)

288 So there will be your Agent 007s and that sort of thing, but one particularly sinister fellow, hovering in the background, will be Doctor 302.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM

***

I recommend the evil doers come from Section 302." Seems more sinister. It could be headed up by Director (insert cleverly selected evil name here).

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:13 AM (axyOa)

289 gonna walk.doggeh

be back in media ora

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:13 AM (G546f)

290 Book nerds!

Posted by: Ogre at March 01, 2020 11:13 AM (1CjJc)

291 New alter boy uniforms.

https://bit.ly/2wShl87
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM (+y/Ru)

swimming in codpieces

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2020 11:14 AM (rpxSz)

292 250 .. "This week I read Murder by Misrule by Anna Castle. Its a mystery set in the reign of Elizabeth I with a young Francis Bacon as the detective."

Don't know for how long, but this book is available free on Kindle e-books. Just got a copy.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:14 AM (7EjX1)

293 not the link - just email votermom at g mail
dot com
Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:10 AM (G546f)

Ohh... duh. Email sent!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:14 AM (QLlrr)

294 Nobody has answered the obvious question: how many sub-clinical cases of coronavirus are there? The total number of infections might be astronomical.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at March 01, 2020 11:07 AM (dLLD6)

Yep. Just like the flu that people decide not to get treatment for. Hell half the population, me included, don't even get a flu shot. Like Heidi this weekend. But I spray her down with disinfectant hourly.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:14 AM (Orx/W)

295 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:05 AM (KZzsI)

Also, in imho and experience. Female teachers don't grow up in college. They come back to teach and there's no clear line between teacher and student. The teacher is not an authority figure any more. "You have to earn your students respect". They're more like friends and guess what happens.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:10 AM (Orx/W)


In my previous life, I taught high school for precisely one year. I was fresh out of undergrad...

Let me tell you, those girls were AGGRESSIVE! It was shocking and dangerous... I kinda think I had no idea how dangerous, and I'm glad I got out.

And this was a Catholic school.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)

296 252 He tells one about the whole "teachers are heroes" nonsense, and it's a long rant about how there are more teachers raping kids than priests. And nobody goes around saying "priests are heroes."
Trust me, it's funny when he says it.
So anyhoo, yeah. The left has to destroy the Church. Thou shalt have no God before them.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (hku12)

I just recently read the statistics: More teachers rape kids than priests do. *Way more*. It's not even close.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:01 AM (l41J9)
_________

Yes, but it's not so shocking when a teacher does it. Actually, it's worse than that. Don't you recall, just a few years back (early in the century) there were several articles out there taking a "nuanced" view on teachers screwing students.

That was absolutely typical of the way the left works. They start off with "think pieces" which - of course - don't advocate openly what they are pushing, but which just say it's more complicated than we think. (As if that doesn't fit any question, whatsoever.) Then, gradually, they switch over to open advocacy. We got same sex marriage that way.

A friend, when I pointed this out to him said that perhaps that's why God allowed this to happen. It's hard to push "OK for teachers to do it" when you've been condemning priests. Not the way I'd have countered it, but I've noticed that God doesn't really consult with me about providence.

And, BTW, the child abuse numbers are no better in other denominations. Anglicans are probably worse; they've long had that reputation.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:15 AM (ZbwAu)

297 Thanks CN. Gotta bounce on outta here to divide the funeral flowers. Laters my friends in boxes!

Posted by: Madamemayhem (uppity wench) at March 01, 2020 11:16 AM (myjNJ)

298 Two Systems of Justice! AoS, Not DoJ!
Why must you turn this comments section into a House of Lies?!

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 11:02 AM (bQe8/)


No need to worry, I use my cob superpowers only for good.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:16 AM (l41J9)

299 I want to write a short story sometime, about the corruption of the Deep State, where everyone uses a number and not a name.

-
I get 666!

Posted by: Hillary! at March 01, 2020 11:17 AM (+y/Ru)

300 So there will be your Agent 007s and that sort of thing, but one particularly sinister fellow, hovering in the background, will be Doctor 302.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:06 AM

***

I recommend the evil doers come from Section 302." Seems more sinister. It could be headed up by Director (insert cleverly selected evil name here).
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:13 AM (axyOa)


Hey! You write your story and I'll write mine, pal!!

No but seriously, I was thinking a sort of tower of Babel type thing. Where all the Deep Staters are deep stating for various evil factions, and nobody trusts anybody because they don't know who is going to turn them in to the various higher ups who represent various Woke groups.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:18 AM (hku12)

301 Don't know for how long, but this book is available free on Kindle e-books. Just got a copy.

Yeah I should have mentioned it. Its the first of a series and I want to read the rest. I signed up took Bookbub and they found me a bunch of free ebooks, a few of which didn't look terrible.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:18 AM (KZzsI)

302
She recently spent all day making a cheerful, brightly colored flipbook of the death of the solar system, as the sun swells and swallows up the inner planets and Earth.


Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 10:53 AM (bQe8/)

If I didn't know better, I would swear your stepdaughter is the spawn of Eris.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 11:19 AM (OX9vb)

303 263 As I've said before, I stopped reading books on politics and current events. They seem to crop up like mushrooms in a wet lawn: frequent and short lasting. What I get from Ace postings (JJ's is outstanding) is enough to stay informed on such matters.

This frees up huge amounts of time to enjoy the written word again. Books that are worth the the time and will stay with a body.
Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:04 AM (7EjX1)
_________

Outside (mostly naval) history and some philosophy, I've just given up books by living authors. Been true since Patrick O'Brian died. And even the ones I like are getting fewer.

C S Lewis recommended this. And I was 10 when he died. (I have a Catholic friend who makes an exception for him, saying that Nov 22, 1963, was the day C S Lewis went to heaven, and JFK went to Hell.)

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:20 AM (ZbwAu)

304 292 250 .. "This week I read Murder by Misrule by Anna Castle. Its a mystery set in the reign of Elizabeth I with a young Francis Bacon as the detective."
Don't know for how long, but this book is available free on Kindle e-books. Just got a copy.
Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:14 AM (7EjX1)


Thanks for the tip, I just snapped it up. It appears to be the first in a series of novels featuring Francis Bacon as a detective.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:20 AM (l41J9)

305 Speaking of Charles Todd mysteries, we met the mother and son team that wrote under that pen name. We saw them at Malice Domestic, a 3 day convention of traditional style mystery authors and fans. It is now held in Bethesda, MD. There are panels and one on one sessions and it's a fun time. In the past we met Donna Andrews and many other writers folks would know. It is the organization that presents the Agatha awards.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:20 AM (7EjX1)

306 In my previous life, I taught high school for precisely one year. I was fresh out of undergrad...

Let me tell you, those girls were AGGRESSIVE! It was shocking and dangerous... I kinda think I had no idea how dangerous, and I'm glad I got out.

And this was a Catholic school.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)

Yes. I was in Middle School Title 1 schools. The 7th 8th were not shy nor subtle. never had a female student in my room alone..ever.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:21 AM (Orx/W)

307 No need to worry, I use my cob superpowers only for good.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:16 AM (l41J9)

Mmmmm hmmmm

*eyes OM skeptically*

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:21 AM (QLlrr)

308 And, BTW, the child abuse numbers are no better in other denominations. Anglicans are probably worse; they've long had that reputation.
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:15 AM (ZbwAu)


And then there's stepdads and assorted live-in "boyfriends."

Why, it's almost as if children are better off when they're raised by their biological parents*.

Almost.


*Not that there aren't countless cases of incest involving bio parents, because sadly, there are.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (hku12)

309 C S Lewis recommended this. And I was 10 when he died. (I have a Catholic friend who makes an exception for him, saying that Nov 22, 1963, was the day C S Lewis went to heaven, and JFK went to Hell.)
Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:20 AM (ZbwAu)


I wonder what your friend would say about Aldous Huxley, who died on the very same day?

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (l41J9)

310 C S Lewis recommended this. And I was 10 when he died.

His essay on reading old authors is very worth reading. In a very small nutshell, he argues that we are essentially blind to our cultural sins, and reading old authors helps you see their failures and sins that they were blind to. In this, he says, you can learn to spot your own blindness.

The woke crowd instead calls this a reason to NOT read old books, because they have evils which they are unrepentant over.

Its like pulling hair out in clumps reading young peoples' reviews of old books ITS SO RACIST SEXIST HOMOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC NARROW MINDED BIGOTED

Fools.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)

311 Hey! You write your story and I'll write mine, pal!!


Ha!

It was a dark and stormy night...

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:23 AM (axyOa)

312 California votes this Tuesday with Super Tuesday.

Posted by: blaster at March 01, 2020 11:24 AM (d4mMH)

313 I wonder what your friend would say about Aldous Huxley, who died on the very same day?

Also crispy. But still a more significant loss than JFK.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:25 AM (KZzsI)

314 Speaking of Charles Todd mysteries, we met the mother and son team that wrote under that pen name.

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I had no idea that was the pen name of a partnership! I see also that they are American and not British as I had assumed.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 11:25 AM (+y/Ru)

315 In my previous life, I taught high school for precisely one year. I was fresh out of undergrad...

Let me tell you, those girls were AGGRESSIVE! It was shocking and dangerous... I kinda think I had no idea how dangerous, and I'm glad I got out.

And this was a Catholic school.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:15 AM (hku12)

Yes. I was in Middle School Title 1 schools. The 7th 8th were not shy nor subtle. never had a female student in my room alone..ever.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:21 AM (Orx/W)


I don't think I did either, and I was probably gently warned by some of the older teachers.

I did have one boy accuse me of saying something I didn't, but it wasn't about sex. It was something to do with me threatening to beat the crep out of him. Which I didn't say. But I did strongly imply it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:26 AM (hku12)

316 It was a dark and stormy night...
Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:23 AM (axyOa)


...at least that's what I put in my 302. It was actually a bright day around noon.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:28 AM (hku12)

317 BTW, the child abuse numbers are no better in other denominations. Anglicans are probably worse; they've long had that reputation.

I suspect so, although many denominations lack the structures that give easier access to children (no altar boys or boy choirs, fewer if any schools, etc) so the opportunity is lessened.

This is one of those topics that produce annoying trendy books. Even in long-term book series you get them, like during Bush's second term where authors decided that the PATRIOT act turned the Federal Government into a secret police without any restrictions or laws. They'll haul you off to Gitmo in the middle of the night! No, they won't.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:28 AM (KZzsI)

318 I just picked up Checkpoint Charlie by Ian MacGregor. I'm looking forward to it.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:29 AM (axyOa)

319 Anyone want to talk about books?

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 11:29 AM (QzF6i)

320 effing Italy didn't even colonize any nearby countries so it's kinda useless elsewhere...
Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)

Somalia, Ethiopia, Libya.

Posted by: Fox2! at March 01, 2020 11:29 AM (qyH+l)

321 Tom Steyer Ends Presidential Campaign

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Well, bye.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at March 01, 2020 11:30 AM (+y/Ru)

322 310 C S Lewis recommended this. And I was 10 when he died.

His essay on reading old authors is very worth reading. In a very small nutshell, he argues that we are essentially blind to our cultural sins, and reading old authors helps you see their failures and sins that they were blind to. In this, he says, you can learn to spot your own blindness.

The woke crowd instead calls this a reason to NOT read old books, because they have evils which they are unrepentant over.

Its like pulling hair out in clumps reading young peoples' reviews of old books ITS SO RACIST SEXIST HOMOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC NARROW MINDED BIGOTED

Fools.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)
_______

Absolutely, In the past few years I've been reading more of his actual professional academic writing. I cannot recommend it highly enough. He is constantly pointing out the places where we are likely to misread old authors, and what they would think of our own assumptions.

But I've always inclined that way. In college, in both history and philosophy, I tried to take as many classes on the ancients and medievals as possible.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:30 AM (ZbwAu)

323 She recently spent all day making a cheerful,
brightly colored flipbook of the death of the solar system, as the sun
swells and swallows up the inner planets and Earth.





Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at March 01, 2020 10:53 AM (bQe8/)



If I didn't know better, I would swear your stepdaughter is the spawn of Eris.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 11:19 AM (OX9vb)

Having met Eris, this is exactly right.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 11:31 AM (nRNOc)

324 That was absolutely typical of the way the left works. They start off with "think pieces" which - of course - don't advocate openly what they are pushing, but which just say it's more complicated than we think. (As if that doesn't fit any question, whatsoever.) Then, gradually, they switch over to open advocacy. We got same sex marriage that way.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:15 AM (ZbwAu)

Now polygamy is getting popular because why not. gees.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:31 AM (Orx/W)

325 The race is going to be interesting. Sanders has a big lead in a lot of ST states. SC can make a difference but not sure how much.

Klobuchar leads in Minnesota but the poll is old. No one other than Biden and Sanders looks to be a winner on ST. Bloomberg might get some delegates but not leading anywhere.

Posted by: blaster at March 01, 2020 11:31 AM (d4mMH)

326 319 Anyone want to talk about books?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 11:29 AM (QzF6i)

Read anything good?

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:31 AM (ONvIw)

327 I think "police books that start out great then get really stupid at the end" is a topic worth discussing. Many movies are this kind, January Man with Kevin Kline was a great police film, great story and ideas... until the end where he goes all rogue Hollywood cop, killing the bad guy and destroying all the evidence. The Harry Bosch books are all this way, its a procedural until its time for Bosch to do a montage and wrap that rag around his head and turn into Rambo for an action movie sequence.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:32 AM (KZzsI)

328 Anyone want to talk about books?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 11:29 AM (QzF6i)


Diogenes and I are writing one together, but it's been a struggle. I want to include all kinds of extraneous details, and he wants to keep in lean and sparse.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:32 AM (hku12)

329 thanks for the pic of Widener Library and a pleasant memory.
Years ago my late husband and I got a small tour there; the highlight was a peek at their Theodore Roosevelt archives. (I was a member of the Theodore Roosevelt Association and a big fan.)

The librarian pulled out a file drawer that had dozens of small pocket diaries - all TR's. He picked one out and said "This was with him at San Juan Hill." He opened to July 1, 1901 and let me hold it and read the entry.

It said "Sunny Day. Took hill."

Posted by: vivi at March 01, 2020 11:32 AM (11H2y)

330 ...at least that's what I put in my 302. It was actually a bright day around noon.
Posted by: BurtTC at March

Now that's realistic!

I like the Tower of Babel premise as it has a kind of Kremlin thing going on.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:32 AM (axyOa)

331 ...a hitherto unknown lurking moron author...

*********

Heh.


Buy my book, strangers!

Posted by: Muldoon at March 01, 2020 11:33 AM (m45I2)

332 Where were these raping teachers when I was a ute?

All of mine looked like Aunt Bee. Not that I would have minded.

Kids today got it made.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at March 01, 2020 11:34 AM (Z+IKu)

333 Ain't it the truth Susie.

Posted by: Kazi at March 01, 2020 11:34 AM (0x00j)

334 312 and as I wrote counted for weeks after until totals that are expected are reached.

Posted by: Skip at March 01, 2020 11:35 AM (ZCEU2)

335 It's not a Spanish Flu scenario.
Sticky and new, yes, but freaky weirdo lethal, no.
Equities will be lit AF this year. We've gone from Shit Midas to Midas Touch and the Establishment can't stand it because it's losing control.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at March 01, 2020 11:35 AM (CLteG)

336 Diogenes and I are writing one together, but it's been a struggle. I want to include all kinds of extraneous details, and he wants to keep in lean and sparse.
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:32 AM (hku12)


Slowly he turned. Step by step. Inch by inch. Until...I was face to face with the evil Doctor Porkchop, Director of Section 302.

Posted by: Diogenes at March 01, 2020 11:36 AM (axyOa)

337 OT, but you morons have absolutely, positively, GOTTA see this Biden clip.

Skip ahead to 3:40. He says he can't wait to debate Trump. He says, "Then we'll see who's sleepy."

He then proceeds to call Piss Wallace, "Chuck."

Wallace corrects him, and he giggles and says, "I just did Chuck, man. These things are back to back.... I don't know how you guys do it, this early in the morning!"

Are you SLEEPY, Joe!??!?!

https://youtu.be/Va_tEJorkDI

Posted by: Pete Polarek at March 01, 2020 11:36 AM (C1NyB)

338 "Beats me," said Goodgulf with a shrug.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, She-Wolf of the 'Ettes 'Ettes at March 01, 2020 09:01 AM (Dc2NZ)

Eris, I have to tell you how much I appreciate your quoting of little excerpts from Bored of the Rings. They are quite delightful.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2020 11:36 AM (KHr4l)

339 319 Anyone want to talk about books?
Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 11:29 AM (QzF6i)

I finished up Whoever Fights Monsters by Robert Ressler. I'm a true crime addict (books, tv shows, podcasts, etc). I liked it. Then I read a free Kindle book called What Have You Done by Matthew Farrell. It was okay. Now I just downloaded a First Reads book called Wall of Silence.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:37 AM (QLlrr)

340 The Harry Bosch books are all this way, its a procedural until its time for Bosch to do a montage and wrap that rag around his head and turn into Rambo for an action movie sequence.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:32 AM (KZzsI)


Yep. Oddly enough, I think the show is doing a better job of having it flow more naturally. The books sorta devolve. At least the ones I've read. I liked the Eleanor story line in the show, but in the book it's kind of silly. Big reveals at the end, which aren't really set up in any meaningful way.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:37 AM (hku12)

341 I did have one boy accuse me of saying something I didn't, but it wasn't about sex. It was something to do with me threatening to beat the crep out of him. Which I didn't say. But I did strongly imply it.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:26 AM (hku12)

The hides are cunning and they know they'd an get a teacher. they've seen it done. One lies and the others swear to it. Its why i got out. Teachers are afraid to discipline and too lazy. I wouldn't put up with bullshit and it was. Matter of time. had Hispanic kids say that cafeteria worker called them 'wetbacks'. She got dragged into the principals office. Sweet lady, I was there so vouched for her. And she was Mexican.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:37 AM (Orx/W)

342 C S Lewis recommended this. And I was 10 when he died.

His essay on reading old authors is very worth reading. In a very small nutshell, he argues that we are essentially blind to our cultural sins, and reading old authors helps you see their failures and sins that they were blind to. In this, he says, you can learn to spot your own blindness.

The woke crowd instead calls this a reason to NOT read old books, because they have evils which they are unrepentant over.

Its like pulling hair out in clumps reading young peoples' reviews of old books ITS SO RACIST SEXIST HOMOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC NARROW MINDED BIGOTED

Fools.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)


Fools indeed. This week I started Melville's "Moby Dick". I had never read it. Melville can write. What a difference between some other's I read and his writing. I'm only 5 or 6 chapters in but I am astounded by his development of the relationship between Queequeg and Ishmael. Great reading.

I have to plug Standard Ebooks https://standardebooks.org/. They have a nice selection of free classic books for e-readers that are excellently typeset complete with in-context illustrations that actually fit into the flow of the books. Their books are formatted orders of magnitude better that other free books.

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 01, 2020 11:38 AM (aS1PU)

343 I love book

Posted by: DB- just DB. I'm not wearing pants at March 01, 2020 11:38 AM (iTXRQ)

344 Kids. Gees.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:39 AM (Orx/W)

345 His essay on reading old authors is very worth reading. In a very small nutshell, he argues that we are essentially blind to our cultural sins, and reading old authors helps you see their failures and sins that they were blind to. In this, he says, you can learn to spot your own blindness.

The woke crowd instead calls this a reason to NOT read old books, because they have evils which they are unrepentant over.

Its like pulling hair out in clumps reading young peoples' reviews of old books ITS SO RACIST SEXIST HOMOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC NARROW MINDED BIGOTED

Fools.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)

People love to take offense rather than read about how things were and what their predecessors thought.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:40 AM (ONvIw)

346 303 ... "Outside (mostly naval) history and some philosophy, I've just given up books by living authors. Been true since Patrick O'Brian died. And even the ones I like are getting fewer."

Agreed. At least for fiction, about the only living authors I read are Bernard Cornwell and Horde members. There are a VERY few others and most of those draw on the tradition or approach of my favored authors.

Now if we could just reincarnate Chesterton, Lewis, Rider Haggard, and L'Amour.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:41 AM (7EjX1)

347 I'm kind of off my mystery kick for a little, though I haven't given it up. The last one I stared was one by Edgar Wallace. God! He couldn't write at all. So I gave it up.

A friend dropped by Friday, and he and my wife and I got talking about rotten books. Unlike me, he feels guilty if he doesn't finish one. I give up when I think a book clearly stinks. But I did cite one - perhaps the worst I have ever read - called A Soldier of the Legion. (I liked P C Wren, so gave this a try.) I can't remember the authors names. But it was absolutely dreadful. Appalling.

You would think that such a book would have at least one battle scene. But no. There IS a battle mentioned, but you don't see it, and no one plays a part. The thing is a schlock romance, pre-WWI style. And it includes this plausible feature: the heroine's father is the French general. The other babe is the daughter of a shiek allied to the French. And both of them think it's just fine for their daughters to marry Legionnaire privates, because True Love.

I didn't read the whole thing, but skipped through it to see if it could possibly stay so rotten. It did. My wife read the whole thing, and said that it was at least one of the worst. (And BTW, if she were to race Evelyn Wood, she'd lap him.)

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:41 AM (ZbwAu)

348 For anyone who might be interested:

My Dad's diary for Leap Day 1944 on the beachhead at Anzio. VI Corp Field Artillery


Feb 29
Counter preparation caught Gerry off balance. His attack was more or less ragged against 3d. Our lines held well and took a lot of PW's. 350 on latest report. Gerry shelled everything on the beach. 2 LST's hit at the port. 141[FABn] lost 2 guns. Light attack on SSF stopped. 30 man platoon at one place captured 4 officers and 107 EM [enlisted men] - killed 20 more - and had only three of our own men wounded slightly. Cloudy and rainy.


(SSF refers to the First Special Service Force aka The Devil's Brigade, in the right flank of the US sector of beachhead)

Posted by: Muldoon at March 01, 2020 11:41 AM (m45I2)

349 Just picked up the brand new J.D. Robb Golden in Death from the library. People make fun of books called "Romance Novels" but she writes pretty good crime mysteries. I made the mistake of starting reading late last night and got sucked in. I like trying to figure out who done it analyzing the clues along the way.
J.D. Robb is Nora Roberts.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 11:41 AM (QzF6i)

350 I shoulda had a pic of me holding a book when I was a pup

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2020 11:41 AM (rpxSz)

351 Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:37 AM (QLlrr)

Ooh, me, too! One of my library reserves that I picked up is The Killer Department, by Robert Cullen. "Detective Viktor Burakov's Eight-Year Hunt for the Most Savage Serial Killer in Russian History."

Can't wait to start this one. I don't know why true crime is so fascinating to me, because I hate it that humans can be so horrible. Maybe from cutting my reading teeth on mysteries.

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (OX9vb)

352 Thye should call them "teacher with benefits." Mine all looked like grandmas. Even the younger ones were matronly.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (Orx/W)

353 Ishmael wants to get with QueeQueg but Queequeg is just a tease. The White Whale is their forbidden love. Ahab is the rage of the heteronormative Patriarchy.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (CLteG)

354 Dennis Wheatley - I distinctly remember reading his The Devil Rides out as an impressionable yute

they should make it into movie
Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 09:18 AM (G546f)

I seem to remember reading a book by him, called "Uncharted Seas".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2020 11:43 AM (KHr4l)

355 (SSF refers to the First Special Service Force aka The Devil's Brigade, in the right flank of the US sector of beachhead)

Posted by: Muldoon at March 01, 2020 11:41 AM (m45I2)

SSF got the Congressional Medal of Honor a few years back.

Posted by: Vendette at March 01, 2020 11:44 AM (nRNOc)

356 I only read Maturin/Aubrey, Sharpe, the Caesarian series by McCullough, and Tolkien.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at March 01, 2020 11:45 AM (CLteG)

357 Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (OX9vb)

Oh, that books sounds good! I'll have to see if I can find a copy. Doesn't seem to be on Amazon.

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:45 AM (QLlrr)

358 When I was in HS, my Latin teacher HAD been cute, when she was teaching my mother. And that's as far as it went.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:46 AM (ZbwAu)

359 Vmom - I've been doing Russian on Duolingo for a little under a year. It's not bad, if you're learning the language as a hobby like I am and not for some serious purpose. I still find that Russian at regular, conversational speed sounds like someone speaking in tongues, though. Occasionally, I can make out a word or phrase, or maybe get the gist of the conversation if I'm watching Russian-language videos on YouTube.

Posted by: PabloD at March 01, 2020 11:47 AM (gzTqL)

360 His essay on reading old authors is very worth reading. In a very small nutshell, he argues that we are essentially blind to our cultural sins, and reading old authors helps you see their failures and sins that they were blind to. In this, he says, you can learn to spot your own blindness.

The woke crowd instead calls this a reason to NOT read old books, because they have evils which they are unrepentant over.

Its like pulling hair out in clumps reading young peoples' reviews of old books ITS SO RACIST SEXIST HOMOPHOBIC TRANSPHOBIC NARROW MINDED BIGOTED

Fools.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 11:22 AM (KZzsI)

People love to take offense rather than read about how things were and what their predecessors thought.
Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:40 AM (ONvIw)


We live in an age where you can be accused of a thought crime, and have your whole career destroyed in an instant, because somebody else decides something you said or implied meant something, and you cannot defend yourself against it. You can only confess to your crime... and still suffer your punishment, which is banishment, forever.

So yeah, no. I'm pretty sure future generations will look back on this one and say "those people sure were dicks, weren't they."

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:47 AM (hku12)

361 Somalia, Ethiopia, Libya.
Posted by: Fox2!

they are not on my vacation spot wishlist

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:47 AM (G546f)

362 Long time lurker, here.

Your mention of Keith Richards brought this to mind. I just finished Inside Out: A Personal History of Pink Floyd by Nick Mason. He starts from the days before the band formed, when Roger Waters, Rick Wright, and he were all architecture students. The story goes through all their early variations which led to The Tea Set - which was their name until they arrived at a gig to fins another band with the same name...so they quickly rebranded as "The Pink Floyd Sound".

There was more backstory on what led to Syd Barrett's breakdown, but Mason doesn't dwell on it. The conflict between Waters and Gilmour and the band's quasi-breakup in the early 80s makes a lot more sense viewed from the inside.

While reading this book, I also was listening to ALL their albums, both Pink Floyd, and the solo albums they all put out. Hearing them all in correct chronological order gave another interesting view of their evolution.

The edition I have was revised with an additional chapter or two, expanding the book to include coverage of Rick and Syd's respective deaths.

I'd call it a must read for PF fans.

Posted by: harbqll at March 01, 2020 11:47 AM (EXLiM)

363 The book I finished this weekend was the Tommy Hambledon mystery, Night Train to Paris, by Manning Coles.

Manning Coles was actually two neighbors Adelaide Oake Manning and Cyril Henry Coles. Mr Coles had worked for British Intelligence during WWI and WWII, and perhaps a while afterwards.

The Tommy Hambledon books all circle somewhere around Tommy Hambledon as an agent for British Intelligence, but in later books, since there is only so much one can do in a life, he mostly shows up with the police to cart off the baddies and tear out his hair trying to figure out what is actually happening, while other people muddle through most of the action.



An East German defector had arranged to transfer boats in mid-English channel carrying supposed submarine plans to England, but before he could get to shore, he is lost overboard. The boat's captain winds up with the plans and decides to sell it to the highest bidders in England, which turns out to be the Russians who want their plans back one way or the other.
Suspecting a reluctance to sell, the Russians question the man until his heart gives out, and then rough up his sister and his sister's fiancee, a rather prim and conventional trader in spices and pepper named Edward Logan.

Edward, the stick, is spooked and drops everything to run to Paris to ask his twin brother Lawrence for advice. The Russians who think Edward had gotten the plans and is running off with them, pursue him to the Paris train, and in attempting to silence him so they can search his train compartment, kill him instead. To cover the murder they toss him off the train.

When the train gets to Paris, the Russians get off to explain their failure to their superiors. And when Edward's brother Lawrence shows up on the platform looking for him, he is collared by the train conductor who mistakes him for Edward, and told he can't leave until he goes through customs with his luggage. Lawrence plays along and tries to figure out what has happened to his missing brother.

Lawrence figures out who the Russians are about the same time as the Russians misidentify Lawrence as his twin brother and start to pursue him again.
Lawrence, the black sheep of the family, had spent the entire war with the French resistance, decided he needed to seek his own vengeance, if only for the joy of doing something again. The action turns into a race against the Russians to find the missing plans, and a race against the police to find the Russians

Being a Manning Coles mystery, it involves slapstick, mistaken identities, risk of capture or murder, feigned amnesia, chases through crowds where everyone has to pretend they aren't actually pursuing each other, exploding suitcases, and a plot based around the feeling of everyone playing blind-man's bluff with an unknown number of participants.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2020 11:47 AM (6rS3m)

364 "The Harry Bosch books are all this way, its a procedural until its time
for Bosch to do a montage and wrap that rag around his head and turn
into Rambo for an action movie sequence."


I never read the books but I love the TV show. But something is always a little off about it, it's always okay for him to break the rules because he's sticking to his morals but then they have him looking down his nose at everyone else that does it. Maybe you wouldn't notice it if you didn't binge watch it.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 11:48 AM (4thlk)

365 The best part about dropping out of HS was the "teachers" got a lot better looking.

well, maybe not the best part but close

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2020 11:49 AM (rpxSz)

366 352 Thye should call them "teacher with benefits." Mine all looked like grandmas. Even the younger ones were matronly.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (Orx/W)


Nowadays, they go into high school teaching gigs right out of college and some of them are not much more emotionally mature than their students they're hired to teach.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:50 AM (l41J9)

367 Ishmael wants to get with QueeQueg but Queequeg is just a tease. The White Whale is their forbidden love. Ahab is the rage of the heteronormative Patriarchy.
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (CLteG)

---------

And then there's The Sea, which stands in for Victorian Era European colonialism.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at March 01, 2020 11:51 AM (XVuno)

368 I'm out, horde. Have some reading and cooking and dog-entertaining to do before the food thread. Happy Sunday!

Posted by: April at March 01, 2020 11:51 AM (OX9vb)

369 naturalfake - permission to reprint Goodbye, Moon on my 'other people's stuff' blog? with proper link and credit, of course.

mindfulwebworker.wordpress.com/
Posted by: mindful webworker
What makes you so special?
at March 01, 2020 10:49 AM (Cd8NC)



Hi MW!

sorry about the delay in answering.

Just got back from a constitutional with the lively and athletic Mrs naturalfake.

Sure, as long as you give proper attribution, etc, etc go ahead.

Thanks for the honor.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 11:51 AM (z0XD8)

370 lowandslow, in that last season his daughter breaks the rules,and him and us get conflicted about it

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 11:52 AM (G546f)

371 I just think Biden's senior moments can be papered over pretty easy. Him accidentally saying North instead of South Carolina, etc is just not going to change people's votes.

I'm bewildered why more SC Republicans didn't cross over and vote Bernie. We could have tied this millstone around their neck and killed the whole Dem party nationwide.

Posted by: Blago at March 01, 2020 11:52 AM (sjTfF)

372 Books are awesome but nothing in life is better than Calvin and Hobbes.

Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2020 11:53 AM (80EFL)

373 Well horde, I've got to do house cleaning and grocery shopping. Have a lovely Sunday!

Posted by: Jordan61 at March 01, 2020 11:53 AM (QLlrr)

374 Books are awesome but nothing in life is better than Calvin and Hobbes.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2020 11:53 AM (80EFL)


This is known.

Posted by: Plato at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (aS1PU)

375 "The Harry Bosch books are all this way, its a procedural until its time
for Bosch to do a montage and wrap that rag around his head and turn
into Rambo for an action movie sequence."

-------------------
I never read the books but I love the TV show. But something is always a little off about it, it's always okay for him to break the rules because he's sticking to his morals but then they have him looking down his nose at everyone else that does it. Maybe you wouldn't notice it if you didn't binge watch it.
Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 11:48 AM (4thlk)

I think that's intentional. I'm not sure where the character goes in the books, because I stopped reading after about 3 or 4 of them (I don't remember, they become a blur). I believe at some point he quits the force, and keeps doing private eye stuff... I think.

Anyhoo, yeah, Bosch is a jerk, and something of a hypocrite. He has his "personal code," and people are supposed to stay out of his way while he's working his, but you damn well better not "betray" him, or he'll never let you forget it.

His relationship with J Edgar is a perfect illustration of this.

I'm curious how the daughter's character evolves, because she's not in the books... unless she shows up later. In some very important ways, she's just like him, and it is starting to cost her as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (hku12)

376 363
Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2020 11:47 AM (6rS3m)
________

I see that the authors are dead, so I might check out Manning Coles. I do have a taste for Brit mysteries of that era.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (ZbwAu)

377 The problem I have with reading anything by CS Lewis is that it takes so long. Every other sentence I have to look up someone or something he referenced or brought to mind or stirred an old memory. And if I don't have access to the internet, I spend time making notes to myself on what to look up. It never ends, I tells ya.

Lewis to me is a font that both slakes, makes thirsty with desire to learn more and stimulates new paths to follow. His death in 1963 was more of a loss to the world than John F'ing Kennedy's.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (7EjX1)

378 JFK
CS Lewis
A Huxley
Dr Wm S Sadler Sr

.

speaking



of books

Posted by: mindful webworker
What makes you so special?
at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (Cd8NC)

379 Think is, I know of at least two happily married couples who started out as teachers and students. By modern standards both would have been subject to some kind of legal action.

How to punish the groping lacrosse coach without criminalizing a happy couple?

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 11:55 AM (+pjYf)

380 374 Books are awesome but nothing in life is better than Calvin and Hobbes.
Posted by: Sharkman at March 01, 2020 11:53 AM (80EFL)

This is known.
Posted by: Plato at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (aS1PU)
_______

Have you guys ever heard of sex?

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 11:56 AM (ZbwAu)

381 Rise and Kill First, by Ronen Bergman, a history of Israel's assassinations and related intel activities, and along the way a capsule history of Mossad.

Kind of a sweeping, journalistic (not a criticism) approach.

Even 80 pages in, a few amusing, dangling and dubious asides.

After the Six-Day War, the then-Mossad chief and legendary figure Meir Amit is described as despondent that Israeli leadership is not seizing what he saw as a unique opportunity to make a deal with the Arabs.

Next few paragraphs describe how Arafat & Co. immediately seized on the "opportunity" - to declare war from the occupied territories, and began a wave of terror attacks.

Uh.

But won't let these little asides ruin it. Learning a lot about the history of Mossad.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2020 11:56 AM (El6T/)

382 Biden's senior moments seem a lot more significant. Saying you're running for senate, misstating the name of the well known person interviewing you, telling people you're going to raise their taxes, not knowing which state you're in(didn't just do it in So Carolina) etc. He does it every day, not just once in a while.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 11:57 AM (QzF6i)

383 /sock

Posted by: DR.WTF at March 01, 2020 11:57 AM (aS1PU)

384 Beats me, said Goodgulf with a shrug

=====
I read Bored of the Rings first.
It made reading the real thing more than slightly weird.

Posted by: Vlad the impaler,whittling away like mad at March 01, 2020 11:57 AM (d6mdH)

385 379 Think is, I know of at least two happily married couples who started out as teachers and students. By modern standards both would have been subject to some kind of legal action.

How to punish the groping lacrosse coach without criminalizing a happy couple?
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 11:55 AM (+pjYf)

The couples I know in this situation started the relationships after the student graduated, not before. I don't think it was ok for teachers to date students even in the 70s. Professors and students was a different matter as both parties were adults, but I think that is forbidden now too

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:58 AM (ONvIw)

386 Uh oh, Pope Frankie has a "cold."

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:58 AM (hku12)

387 I find it quaint that the donks allow a state in which they have no hope in carrying in the fall, have such an over weighted say in their nominating process

Lets see Biden find another state with the donk compo of SC

like Bud Fox and Blue Star

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2020 11:59 AM (rpxSz)

388 366 352 Thye should call them "teacher with benefits." Mine all looked like grandmas. Even the younger ones were matronly.
Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:42 AM (Orx/W)

Nowadays, they go into high school teaching gigs right out of college and some of them are not much more emotionally mature than their students they're hired to teach.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 11:50 AM (l41J9)

Thats it OM. And social media, cellphones make it very easy to begin communicating outside of class. Hell, we had one gay male teacher who celebrated Justin Beavers birthday in his 4th grade class. It was very very creepy. he kept Justins picture in a frame in front of the class. How's that for twisted? Oh and showed Justin being interviewed on the Ellen show. In class.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 11:59 AM (Orx/W)

389 Muldoon, always love your dad's diary excerpts.

Know you did a fictional account based on, but would be great to publish an annotated version of the actual diaries.

At least WWII geeks like myself would eat it up.

Posted by: rhomboid at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (El6T/)

390 One of my sons travels a lot and spent 3 years living in Europe so shed many of his personal belongings along the way. The only thing he left at home and asked me to save was his collection of Calvin and Hobbes books.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (QzF6i)

391 Just found out I can't schedule an Uber for 4:30 am Wednesday morning to take me to the airport. Guess I'll have to drive my truck and park it in short term parking.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (vWzNS)

392 People love to take offense rather than read about how things were and what their predecessors thought.

I think there's some glee and hope for positive response for being the most shocked by something old but... I think the main reason people react like this is that they've been so cocooned from reality and people who think differently their entire lives that they are genuinely shocked and dismayed when they encounter it.

And since they've never had to face hardship, challenging thoughts, disappointment, or failure they are emotionally and intellectually unequipped to deal with it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (KZzsI)

393 Think is, I know of at least two happily married couples who started out as teachers and students. By modern standards both would have been subject to some kind of legal action.

How to punish the groping lacrosse coach without criminalizing a happy couple?
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 11:55 AM (+pjYf)

The couples I know in this situation started the relationships after the student graduated, not before. I don't think it was ok for teachers to date students even in the 70s. Professors and students was a different matter as both parties were adults, but I think that is forbidden now too
Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 11:58 AM (ONvIw)


Back in the day, many public schools referred to late May/early June as "cherry-picking season."

It means what it sounds like it does, and yes, it was common enough to have its own phrase.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (hku12)

394 Lets see Biden find another state with the donk compo of SC

Posted by: REDACTED at March 01, 2020 11:59 AM (rpxSz)

Maybe 'Bama.

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 12:01 PM (X/Pw5)

395 386 Uh oh, Pope Frankie has a "cold."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:58 AM (hku12)

There's a lot going on besides Wuhan corona; flu, strep, other cold viruses. He is over 80, though, so higher risk regardless of he pathogen

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 12:01 PM (ONvIw)

396 Biden's senior moments seem a lot more significant. Saying you're running for senate, misstating the name of the well known person interviewing you, telling people you're going to raise their taxes, not knowing which state you're in(didn't just do it in So Carolina) etc. He does it every day, not just once in a while.
Posted by: sharon

____________

I agree it's "bad" to the point he really is in significant mental decline but the media is going to largely ignore it. You'd be amazed how little the average voter knows when they go to vote.

I guess I'm just not as confident that Joe making these mistakes is going to be death to his campaign.

Posted by: Blago at March 01, 2020 12:01 PM (sjTfF)

397 Ha! Just saw a National Ad for Steyer 2020.

Money spent, at least.

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:01 PM (jWXS2)

398 I'm curious how the daughter's character evolves,
because she's not in the books... unless she shows up later. In some
very important ways, she's just like him, and it is starting to cost her
as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (hku12)

=================

There's your reason to read the books, right there. Even if she's never a major part of the books, her character develops through several of the novels.
Bosch is pretty good as a subsidiary character in some of the Lincoln Lawyer (Haller) books, too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 01, 2020 12:02 PM (NVYyb)

399 naturalfake - cool, thanks.

Posted by: mindful webworker
What makes you so special?
at March 01, 2020 12:02 PM (Cd8NC)

400 Uh oh, Pope Frankie has a "cold."

Complications related to pneumonia after a long illness?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:02 PM (KZzsI)

401 379 Think is, I know of at least two happily married couples who started out as teachers and students. By modern standards both would have been subject to some kind of legal action.

How to punish the groping lacrosse coach without criminalizing a happy couple?

Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 11:55 AM (+pjYf)

Did they date in HS or college?

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 12:03 PM (Orx/W)

402 I really hope Biden is the nominee. Can you just imagine him in a debate with Trump? He can't remember what he te for lunch let alone the name of world leaders he will have to be prepared to comment on.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 12:03 PM (QzF6i)

403 >> Just found out I can't schedule an Uber for 4:30 am Wednesday morning to take me to the airport. Guess I'll have to drive my truck and park it in short term parking.


There are still things called Taxis, right? Or are you so rural that is not an option?

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:03 PM (jWXS2)

404 Ha! Just saw a National Ad for Steyer 2020.

Money spent, at least.

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:01 PM (jWXS2)

No refunds!

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 12:03 PM (X/Pw5)

405 I was in high school when Bored of the Rings was published. I was well into my annual reading of LOTR by then. I still remember roaring with laughter and gasping for breath. It helped that I was able to get all the New England oriented jokes.

Posted by: JTB at March 01, 2020 12:03 PM (7EjX1)

406 Uh oh, Pope Frankie has a "cold."
Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:58 AM (hku12)

There's a lot going on besides Wuhan corona; flu, strep, other cold viruses. He is over 80, though, so higher risk regardless of he pathogen
Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 12:01 PM (ONvIw)


That, or God has had enough of the old commie, and is exacting his punishment.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 12:04 PM (hku12)

407 Well, bye horde. Mrs Eeyore is in kitchen,and just gave the time warning.

Posted by: Eeyore at March 01, 2020 12:04 PM (ZbwAu)

408 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy & strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 01, 2020 12:04 PM (u82oZ)

409 >>No refunds!


Right?

Funny. It aired immediately after Meat duh Press!

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:05 PM (jWXS2)

410 I'm curious how the daughter's character evolves,
because she's not in the books... unless she shows up later. In some
very important ways, she's just like him, and it is starting to cost her
as well.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 11:54 AM (hku12)

=================

There's your reason to read the books, right there. Even if she's never a major part of the books, her character develops through several of the novels.
Bosch is pretty good as a subsidiary character in some of the Lincoln Lawyer (Haller) books, too.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at March 01, 2020 12:02 PM (NVYyb)


Nah, I've got enough other books to read.

One thing though, who is the mom? Surely not Eleanor??

And don't call me Shirley.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 12:05 PM (hku12)

411 Writing dull but important letters on a deadline.

Good content. Wish I could stay longer.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at March 01, 2020 12:05 PM (u82oZ)

412 I remember coming into Widener to see my brother and report the news that Reagan was shot. He was sitting next to Caroline Kennedy. No one had heard it yet and even though I whispered it, it spread through the entire library in a second.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at March 01, 2020 12:05 PM (H8QX8)

413 And since they've never had to face hardship, challenging thoughts, disappointment, or failure they are emotionally and intellectually unequipped to deal with it.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (KZzsI)

Participation trophy mentality. My very first college roommate was a very spoiled, very rich girl, whose mommy and day bought her out of every challenge. She had yet to know personal disappointment, so when the high school boyfriend dumped her for someone new, she went crazy with anger then depression. It took a while for her to accept that life would not be perfect.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 12:06 PM (ONvIw)

414 There are still things called Taxis, right? Or are you so rural that is not an option?
Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:03 PM (jWXS2)


Yep. Even with Uber, it's a 90 buck ride, including the tip. I live about an hour and a half from GSP airport.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 12:07 PM (vWzNS)

415 traveling Man

++++++I sometimes take a shared van to the airport. It is a little on the expensive side but usually offset by what it would cost me to park. Also, They are always on time so takes some of the anxiety our of the trip to the airport.

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 12:07 PM (QzF6i)

416 Luego horde. Have fun.

Posted by: Cannibal Blob at March 01, 2020 12:08 PM (Orx/W)

417 She had yet to know personal disappointment, so when the high school boyfriend dumped her for someone new, she went crazy with anger then depression.

Its cruelty to not expose your child to failure, disappointment, and frustration in controlled environments until they can deal with it in the real world. There are still new pains to face and get through that catch you unprepared (death of a parent, etc) but at least this isn't your first rodeo and you know not only that you will get through it, but you have the tools to handle the pain.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)

418 There was more backstory on what led to Syd Barrett's breakdown, but
Mason doesn't dwell on it. The conflict between Waters and Gilmour and
the band's quasi-breakup in the early 80s makes a lot more sense viewed
from the inside.





I've watched interviews of the band about Barrett's breakdown. Some say it was massive doses of LSD or possible mental issues to begin with or the combination of both. Some even suggested that he really couldn't handle fame and when he achieved it almost tried to purposefully sabotage it like not showing up for gigs or not lip syncing on TV shows just standing there. His music also showed signs of his mental breakdown. Going from almost light hearted See Emily Play to Scream Thy Last Scream

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2020 12:09 PM (W/gIX)

419 Good Music Books :

Zappa's autobigraphy

Bill Graham's Biography / Autobiography (he died while writing it)

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:09 PM (jWXS2)

420 Just saw a National Ad for Steyer 2020.


Man, I just saw that ad, too.

Completely changed my mind about that guy.

Steyer is the real deal!

I want him to go all the way.

Look out, Biden. Look out, Sanders.

Steamroller Steyer is coming for you!

Steyermentum, baby!!!!! Catch it!


Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 12:09 PM (z0XD8)

421 Barrett was alwyas a nutter. The Drugs only made him worse.

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:10 PM (jWXS2)

422 417 She had yet to know personal disappointment, so when the high school boyfriend dumped her for someone new, she went crazy with anger then depression.

Its cruelty to not expose your child to failure, disappointment, and frustration in controlled environments until they can deal with it in the real world. There are still new pains to face and get through that catch you unprepared (death of a parent, etc) but at least this isn't your first rodeo and you know not only that you will get through it, but you have the tools to handle the pain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)

Agree 100%

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at March 01, 2020 12:10 PM (NWiLs)

423 Its cruelty to not expose your child to failure, disappointment, and frustration in controlled environments until they can deal with it in the real world. There are still new pains to face and get through that catch you unprepared (death of a parent, etc) but at least this isn't your first rodeo and you know not only that you will get through it, but you have the tools to handle the pain.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:08 PM (KZzsI)

I couldn't agree more.

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 12:11 PM (ONvIw)

424 Steyermentum, baby!!!!! Catch it!+++++

Heh

Posted by: sharon(willow's apprentice) at March 01, 2020 12:12 PM (QzF6i)

425 If you polled people about who is the greatest expert today on modern warship design and systems - covering at least the 20th C - Norman Friedman would undoubtedly finish #1.

Knowing naval history keeps bleeding into my view of life. Have you ever considered the remarkable similarities between the tonnage limitations of the Washington and London treaties and the NFL salady cap?
The total tonnage/salary limit forces compromises in both the quality and quantity of individual units. These compromises are made under an overarching theory of operaton.
Is the run vs pass a theoretical decision that dictates player skills selected? You can get several cheap modestly skilled linemen and a top five quarterback or is it better to upgrade the line and get a good running back and settle for a ten to fifteen rated qb?
Should you build less capable but more numerous cruisers to protect trade or more powerful but less numerous cruisers to protect a battleline from destroyer attack with torpedo?
We may agree or disagree about this but everyone can get behind the notion that the US Navy Bureau of Engineering and the Jets ownership exhibit a long running level of dysfunctionality.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 01, 2020 12:12 PM (e1mEI)

426 You have close to 3 million early votes combined in CA, TX and NC.

Think of all the wasted Steyer votes.


Haha

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 12:12 PM (AXS9h)

427 Look out, Biden. Look out, Sanders.

Steamroller Steyer is coming for you!

Steyermentum, baby!!!!! Catch it!


Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 12:09 PM (z0XD

He caught Lizzy and Pete....got his mojo workin".

Posted by: BignJames at March 01, 2020 12:13 PM (X/Pw5)

428 Close to 3m DEM votes.

Posted by: Ha at March 01, 2020 12:13 PM (AXS9h)

429 The USA will never negotiate with terrorists
But as part of our Afghan surrender we will immediately release 5000 Taliban

Posted by: Kurt at March 01, 2020 12:13 PM (+55Gx)

430 Barrett was alwyas a nutter. The Drugs only made him worse.
Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:10 PM (jWXS2)


He was the right age for an onset of schizophrenia.

Probably that. Plus, the LSD did him no favors.

Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 12:13 PM (z0XD8)

431 Hey Kurt put down the penis to join us.

Much too late little cocksucker. Obama already crossed that bridge and handed the Deed over to the Iranians.

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:14 PM (jWXS2)

432 (facepalm) salary.

This is why I am Big Idea Monger not editor.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at March 01, 2020 12:15 PM (e1mEI)

433
Its cruelty to not expose your child to failure, disappointment, and frustration in controlled environments until they can deal with it in the real world.

==
The Hunter Biden story

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 12:15 PM (G546f)

434 I've watched interviews of the band about Barrett's breakdown. Some say it was massive doses of LSD or possible mental issues to begin with or the combination of both. Some even suggested that he really couldn't handle fame and when he achieved it almost tried to purposefully sabotage it like not showing up for gigs or not lip syncing on TV shows just standing there. His music also showed signs of his mental breakdown. Going from almost light hearted See Emily Play to Scream Thy Last Scream

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2020 12:09 PM (W/gIX)


There's still much that is unknown about how and why mental illness forms, but we know there are ages at which it is more likely to develop... and those happen to be the ages around late teens/early adulthood.

One thing we do know, the twin towers of past trauma and current stress are catalysts for the onset of mental illness. It's not always clear, and yeah, there probably are just some brains that were defective from the start, but put somebody on a stage (literally and figuratively) like that, and then feed him some mind altering substances... yeah.

Posted by: BurtTC at March 01, 2020 12:15 PM (hku12)

435 Its cruelty to not expose your child to failure, disappointment, and frustration in controlled environments until they can deal with it in the real world.

==
The Hunter Biden story
Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 12:15 PM (G546f)


Hello there!

Posted by: Chelsea Clitton at March 01, 2020 12:17 PM (hku12)

436 CBD is Nood

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at March 01, 2020 12:17 PM (ZCEU2)

437 >>One thing we do know, the twin towers of past trauma and current stress are catalysts for the onset of mental illness. It's not always clear, and yeah, there probably are just some brains that were defective from the start, but put somebody on a stage (literally and figuratively) like that, and then feed him some mind altering substances...


Also, give them everything they ever dreamed of...

when things don't change (from their perspectve) because of it, you can get the trigger that way as well.

Posted by: garrett at March 01, 2020 12:17 PM (jWXS2)

438 "But as part of our Afghan surrender we will immediately release 5000 Taliban"


We? We're holding 5000 Taliban prisoners? Someone should have reported on that.

Posted by: lowandslow at March 01, 2020 12:17 PM (4thlk)

439 Some times, ya just gotta take a leek !
Posted by: JT at March 01, 2020 11:08 AM (arJlL)

I went to take a leek, and got kicked in the ice hole.

Posted by: a Polar Bear at March 01, 2020 12:19 PM (s1GQ4)

440 He was the right age for an onset of schizophrenia.



Probably that. Plus, the LSD did him no favors.





Posted by: naturalfake at March 01, 2020 12:13 PM (z0XD


It's been suggested that he had schizophrenia but nothing was apparent until he started to do drugs. The stories about the amounts of LSD he took are unreal. He just fried his brain

Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2020 12:19 PM (8EPFb)

441 I just read another news item about the guy in Washington who died. 50 is young for a nursing home unless you are pretty debilitated. They have "no idea" how he caught it. Of course they do. Someone who had a mild case coughed or sneezed and he breathed it in or put the object they carelessly handled into his mouth. As the CDC has been saying, most cases will not be severe. So maybe a cruise ship worker has a family member who caught his "cold" and then it moved to the debilitated patient. Maybe one of the visitors got back from China or has a roommate who did.

The reality is that they know how he got it, just not the contacts of the staff or visitors. There is always a "contact".

Posted by: CN at March 01, 2020 12:19 PM (ONvIw)

442 effing Italy didn't even colonize any nearby countries so it's kinda useless elsewhere...
Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 10:57 AM (G546f)


Um, Ethiopia and Libya. So yeah.

How about Buenos Aires or Southern Brazil? Lots of Italians wound up there.

Food is good too.

Posted by: Kindltot at March 01, 2020 12:20 PM (6rS3m)

443 Finished The Heart is a Lonely Hunter by Carson McCullers. We read it for my IRL book club. Hard to believe it was written by someone only 23 years old at the time. I understand why it is considered a modern classic - well written, thought provoking. But oh, my, is it sad and bleak. And no redemption for anyone anywhere. I think it is worth reading, but if you are a sensitive soul or are already depressed, I'd recommend a hard pass.

But it did engender some of the deepest discussion we've had in a long time at our meeting.

Posted by: SummaMamaT, who is almost always last at March 01, 2020 12:24 PM (84ClH)

444 I never got how Syd Barrett was a genius, but he certainly touched the lives of the Pink Floyd members in a special way, and he clearly was very loved by the band members.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:28 PM (KZzsI)

445 Just found out I can't schedule an Uber for 4:30 am Wednesday morning to take me to the airport. Guess I'll have to drive my truck and park it in short term parking.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at March 01, 2020 12:00 PM (vWzNS)

Tried a cab company?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at March 01, 2020 12:33 PM (s1GQ4)

446 Well, what a surprise!

I thought I was just writing into the ether.

Thanks, OM. You made my day.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 01, 2020 12:44 PM (PWPy3)

447 How about Buenos Aires or Southern Brazil? Lots of Italians wound up there.

Food is good too.

Posted by: Kindltot

mmm steak

Posted by: vmom 2020 v23 at March 01, 2020 01:23 PM (G546f)

448
It's been suggested that he had schizophrenia but nothing was apparent until he started to do drugs. The stories about the amounts of LSD he took are unreal. He just fried his brain
Posted by: TheQuietMan at March 01, 2020 12:19 PM (8EPFb)

In the book, Mason talks about how when visiting the flat where Syd and his friends lived that he and the others would NEVER eat or drink anything, because it was just understood that everything was laced with LSD. They were pretty much tripping all day, every day.

It's not hard to see that damaging someone, and if they had a predisposition to schizophrenia...yeah. Psychotic break time. You can see it developing in the pictures included in the book. "A look in your eyes like black holes in the skies", indeed.

Mason talks about how it was Syd that invented a lot of the techniques that formed the band's signature sounds. My favorite is that he wrote a song with his own guitar portion arranged backwards. So, he played it, then reversed the track before adding the rest of the band.

Then of course, there's always the legendary "Have You Got It Yet".

Posted by: harbqll at March 01, 2020 01:56 PM (EXLiM)

449 Widener Library also has a Gutenberg Bible and a first edition of Shakespeare's First Folio in the centrally-located and Sanctumesque oak-paneled Harry W. Reading Room. Widener was also a member of the Owl Club (a men's only 'Final' club founded 1896 on 33 Holyoke Street) and has its own mini-Widener Library. (Robert "Bobbie" Trent Jones '21 was also a member along with Ted Kennedy '54-56 and Kermit Roosevelt Jr '36).

The Lampoon's 'Bored of the Rings' 1968 parody was co-authored by future National Lampoon founders Doug Kenney and Henry Beard...in just 2 weeks! During a 1930s Lampoon 'Phool's Week' prank (initiation for new members lasted 2 weeks back then during which initiates had to perform stunts and pranks under the watchful eyes of members), an initiate dressed as a German professor sat down in the pictured main reading room during finals and released a flock of pigeons smuggled in his briefcase.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at March 01, 2020 02:07 PM (mCR6n)

450 Another classic Lampoon parody book is the Ian Fleming parody "Alligator"(1962) authored by Michael Frith '63 (collaborator with Dr. Seuss in the 1960s out here in La Jolla, CA) and Christopher Cerf '62 (son of Bennett Cerf and songwriter for Sesame Street). Fleming tried to sue the authors and made it clear that those 2 authors would be forbidden to write and future authorized James Bond novels after Fleming's Death. 'Alligator' is hilarious! The recipe for Bond's favorite cocktail "served at St. Stephen's Downstairs the only way the bartender there knows how.." is worth it by itself! (Having whipped up a batch, it is quite tasty...if you change the amount of sugar from 1/2 cup to just a mere cube. The Wolfschmidt's Kümmel took some time to acquire.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at March 01, 2020 02:19 PM (mCR6n)

451 Widener Library replaced the undersized and dank Neo-Gothic Gore Library which is still featured on the Seal of the City of Cambridge. It was built in the 1840s and had poor temperature and humidity control.

Also, in the deed for the Library, Widow Widener stipulated that not a single brick could be removed or else she would take the Library and its holdings back under her possession.

Also, tradition stipulates that undergrads must have sex in the stacks at least once before Commencement Day.... which leads to 1600 Seniors frantically and Furtively masturbating in the Nooks and crannies of the lower basement levels on Commencement Morning.

Posted by: Donovan Nuera at March 01, 2020 02:31 PM (mCR6n)

452 @300 --

That sounds as if that could be the basis for a tabletop card game.

Similar to Steve Jackson Games' Illuminati line.

Posted by: Weak Geek at March 01, 2020 03:07 PM (u/nim)

453 Posted by: Donovan Nuera

Wish you had gotten here before the thread died!

Posted by: m at March 01, 2020 04:15 PM (M5wRT)

454 379 Think is, I know of at least two happily married couples who started out as teachers and students. By modern standards both would have been subject to some kind of legal action.

How to punish the groping lacrosse coach without criminalizing a happy couple?
Posted by: Trimegistus at March 01, 2020 11:55 AM (+pjYf)


Late with this, but I've heard that back in Ye Olde Days, back when most teachers were male and taught multiple grades, it was not unusual for the teacher to marry his oldest female student. She'd be, like, 17-18 years old. And this is an arrangement that worked.

I think one of the big problems is that we've legitimized "hook-up" culture and attacked and downgraded the institution of marriage. It's not the sex so much as the stability that's the real problems, and hook-ups, by their very nature, are not stable arrangements.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 05:06 PM (xlx+n)

455 444 I never got how Syd Barrett was a genius, but he certainly touched the lives of the Pink Floyd members in a special way, and he clearly was very loved by the band members.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at March 01, 2020 12:28 PM (KZzsI)


I agree. Syd could write a catchy pop tune when he was firing on all cylinders, which wasn't often, and, after about 1967, never. By then he was pretty much fried.

But the amount of effort the other PF members put in to trying to salvage him was unreal. They only gave up when when it became obvious that Barrett could no longer perform, play, or write music. I give them all props for loyalty.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at March 01, 2020 05:13 PM (xlx+n)

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