Gun Thread: The CMP 1911A1! [Weasel]

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Last week, our pal The Walking Dude reported taking delivery of a surplus 1911A1 from the CMP. Whoa! What gives?! A 1911 from the CMP?! Who doesn't want some of that action? Let's find out more below, shall we?

NOTE: I'll be checking in periodically during the thread this evening so please don't burn the place down, 'kay? Remember, you're all Gun Thread Safety Officers!

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According to their website, The Civilian Marksmanship Program (CMP) is a national organization dedicated to training and educating U. S. citizens in responsible uses of firearms and airguns through gun safety training, marksmanship training and competitions. The CMP is a federally chartered 501(c)(3) corporation that places its highest priority on serving youth through gun safety and marksmanship activities that encourage personal growth and build life skills.

They also do really cool stuff like selling and repairing old martial arms!

Yep. That's right. In a 2 year pilot program allowed under 2018 National Defense Authorization Act, surplus 1911 semi-automatic pistols were released to the CMP for sale to the public. Apparantly, the government was spending $2 million per year to store 100,000 surplus 1911s which had been replaced in 1985 by the Beretta M9. Here's a 2018 article on the program from the American Rifleman Magazine.

Anyhoo, Mr Lucky-pants Walking Dude jumped through all the right hoops and was a lottery winner, and agreed to his story:

Every year the CMP will receive up to 10,000 1911A1 pistols from military arsenals for sale to the public. The funds from these sales will support CMP (Civilian Marksmanship Program) programs. Pistols are inspected and sorted into 3 grades (rack, field and Service ). People who wanted to purchase a 1911 pistol submitted an application packet to the CMP. Packets were assigned a random generated lottery number The initial lottery they are still working through had almost 20,000 applications with lottery numbers assigned. When your lottery number comes up you are contacted by phone or email and provide payment prior to shipment. Two background checks are performed, an initial background check prior to shipment and another at the 01 firearms dealer the pistol is shipped to. I had submitted my packet in Sept of 2018 and was assigned lottery number 11,7xx. The scuttlebutt I'm hearing is that in 18-24 months they will be taking new applications.

For more information see 1911 Information - Civilian Marksmanship Program

Well danged if this isn't Gun Thread worthy! One of our own Morons scores and scores bigly! Congratulations, The Walking Dude! Can we see some pictures?

As promised here are some photos of the 1911A1 I just got from the CMP. Years ago I waited too long to order a M-1 Carbine and one day they were gone never to be seen again at that price so I did not make that same mistake with the M-1 Garands and now the 1911's they offer. I really wanted a war time 1911A1 because my Dad carried one through France and all the way into Berlin when it fell. He actually got a marksmanship medal for it, a pin that looked like a little 1911A1, in addition to the marksmanship medal for rifle which is a musket in a long blue box with a wreath. He said not many people qualified for the marksmanship medal for the 1911A1. He passed away in 2017. We are losing the greatest generation as they march off into time. Not many of them left.

Man, ain't that the truth. Great story, The Walking Dude, and thank you for sharing it with us. Now let's see those pictures!


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Shipped in a lockable case which much better than the cases used to ship M-1 Garands.

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Nice foam insert with cutouts for the pistol and magazine.

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As a gun collector you learn pretty early that you need to look in every nook and cranny of these boxes. Underneath all the foam was an Amry tech manual for the M1911A1 and a lock to safely secure the pistol from young'uns.

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Markings right side. US govt property mark , SN (the large O in No. without a line under it indicates its the last marking iteration used by Remington Rand when they resumed production in 1943). From researching the SN it left the factory in March of 1945. To the left of the top of the grip if you look closely you can see partial stamp of the ordnance dept inspection (crossed cannons) which started appearing on pistols in 1942. Partial stampings of this are common. The 8 or & upper right of trigger and the J or 0 on the trigger guard directly below the trigger are some sort of factory inspection marks. I don't know what they mean yet and am still researching those.

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Left side of pistol- last of 3 iterations of Remington Rand Slide marking (shorter than the slide stop) which was used from SN 980000 until end of production. Notice P proof mark near magazine release button to right of trigger. Also notice the FJA to the upper right of triggers which are the inspectors Initials (Col Frank J Atwood) only found on Remington Rand and Ithaca frames.

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Top of slide and magazine heel- Notice P proof mark on top of slide to the right of the rear sight. The markings on the barrel indicate it is a govt contract barrel made after 1949 ".45 auto" and "7791193 " The 7791193 is the govt contract number. The magazine markings indicate it is a post WWII govt contract magazine made by Checkmate Industries.

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Disaasembled - the C in a box on the bottom of the barrel Lug indicates the post 1949 govt contract barrel was made by Colt.

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Barrel lug - other side.

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Barrel Rifling- looks like new or very little use to me.

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For more info on markings follow the Cool Gun Site link where you can find out a lot about these pistols.

The Walking Dude goes on to mention the CMP currently has lend/lease M-1 Garands returned from the Philippines for sale and he is waiting for a Winchester rack grade special which should ship out in a few weeks. For more information on the Garands they have see M1 Garand - Civilian Marksmanship Program.

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Most of us remember Neon Madman as a collector of rare and unusual cartridges which he frequently shares with us. Well, he's obviously a pretty damn good shooter, too! I'll let his target speak for itself:

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Damn, man! That's some nice shooting right there! What gun were you using?

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Sweet! A Smith & Wesson revolver, and a K38 to be exact. Neon Madman tells us:

I am mainly a target shooter, favoring .22 and .38 Special. I mainly shoot revolvers in single-action mode with a two handed hold and factory iron sights, although I'll also occasionally break out one of the autoloaders for variety. I sometimes save my good targets to take along and show to my dad when I go to check on the old folks on Sunday nights. The attached target is from a week ago, and is a personal best - 6 shots of .38 wadcutter from my old K-38 at 25 feet.

Those of you who have been reading here for long will know I'm a big fan of Smith & Wesson revolvers, and the K38 model in particular. They do not call this the Masterpiece for no good reason! I have lots of old guns and lots of new guns but for dead level accuracy and the simple joy of shooting, it's hard to beat the K38.

Very nicely done, Neon Madman, and be glad you have your dad around to show your targets to. Thank you for sending this in!

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Not all threats to your gun rights come directly as a frontal assault on the 2nd Amendment. With alarming frequency, privately owned gun ranges and shooting clubs are being dragged into court over noise complaints and safety concerns. In many cases, these facilities have operated safely for years, a fact the sometimes new "neighbors" often brought to an area by urban sprawl, typically fail to appreciate.

A good example of the clash between neighbors and shooting ranges is the Panteo Sportsman's Club in Lexington, SC which has been taken to court by residents in their area. As reported here, the range owners assert they are operating safely and the neighbors claim to be living in a war zone.

People have a right to be safe on their own property, but people also probably shouldn't locate near a shooting range if they don't like the sound of gunfire. These situations will only continue to occur with increasing frequency. What do you think is the solution?

A big thanks to our pal Will, a member of the Panteo Sportsman's Club, for sending this in!

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Our best buddy and planner/hostess extraordinaire bluebell was quoted recently regarding the big event:

There will be plenty of Horde spouses at the MoMe, some of whom read the blog, some of whom don't, and some completely apolitical. I want to assure everyone that MoMes are a place to relax and have fun and meet your grey-box friends in person, and rarely does politics even come up! Think of it as a big family reunion, only with people you actually like.

Totally not at shiv-point, I vigorously agree with all of bluebell's comments. For the introverts and lurkers out there, its a very casual, low-key, and FUN affair. I have been to a bunch of these around the country, and can honestly say nobody comes away thinking it wasn't a great time. Some people mingle and others don't. If hiding behind a plant in the corner and just observing is your thing, have at it! If dancing naked on a folding chair with Cheetos stuck in your nose is how you like to roll, you can do that too! You can be as involved or as barely involved as you like. I swear you will enjoy yourself, and if you don't believe me, which is always smart, you can completely believe bluebell!

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That's it for this week - have you been to the range?

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1 Ya got me.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 07:02 PM (Hg4NE)

2 boo!

Posted by: lin-duh at February 16, 2020 07:03 PM (UUBmN)

3 I should do a similar parts breakdown of Pop's 1911 (made in 191 that he used to shoot Nazis in Italy with.

Sitting in the case behind my left shoulder right now. I should probably clean it soon.

Posted by: Defenestratus at February 16, 2020 07:04 PM (9V81o)

4 Wounded burglar: "Aren't ya gonna call the cops?"
Me: "Why? No one else knows you're here."


"Now put on this ball gag if you want to keep breathing, and we'll take a nice little trip to Mexico. Where's my shovel?"

Posted by: qdpsteve at February 16, 2020 07:05 PM (L2ZTs)

5 Walking Dude, nice looking 1911 there. Will you be taking it out to the range next?

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:05 PM (uyKdz)

6 Slacking today

Posted by: Skip at February 16, 2020 07:06 PM (ZCEU2)

7 Someone asked last week for more detail on the quail hunting trip I took last weekend.

We were hunting just south of the Red River near Wichita Falls, Texas. I had a side by side 12 gauge and junior had a side by side 20. Our guide brought his dogs, a pointer and a retriever. The pointer was a German Shorthair and the retriever was a Pudelpointer. The area where we were hunting is periodically seeded with quail raised with limited human contact, so they retain most of their instinct, and mix well with the limited number of wild birds in the area.

The hunt began with a safety briefing, especially important since the youngster had never hunted quail, and might be prone to getting over anxious. Quail hunting is more fast paced than many other hunts. Often, one will not go more than five or ten minutes between opportunities to shoot, and the birds often form coveys of up to a dozen birds. Once they break into flight, they take off in every direction at once, and once airborne give the hunter only a brief opportunity for a shot.

As we strolled through the field, the pointer would move back and forth across our direction of travel, moving left to right and back to cover all of the hunters, like a destroyer screen searching for submarines. Each time he would pick up a scent, his path would narrow until he was directly downwind of a target. He would creep forward and then point. We would move into position behind him, and the the retriever would be loosed to flush the birds. As they broke, each shooter would cover any birds flying in his zone, left, right, or center. We found single birds, doubles, and several large conveys.

After walking a total of eight and a half miles and leaving the dogs happy but exhausted, we ended up with 14 quail. After breasting them and putting them on ice, we headed home, where we grilled them with a rub, and wrapping them in bacon. Junior was pleased to have successfully put food on the table, and I was proud of him for being not only succesful, but a responsible hunter. He bagged nearly half of our haul.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (Idr1T)

8 Anyone have any thoughts on that finish on the 1911? It looks like it was redone, but I am on my phone and can't really tell...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at February 16, 2020 07:08 PM (lUUUj)

9 Probably an arsenal refinish. I think that what Walking Dude said.

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:09 PM (CQjeG)

10 Wow, that 1911 is sweet!

Posted by: DR.WTF at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (aS1PU)

11 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)

12 Hey Weasel! Cannibal Bob and I are registered for the NoVaMoMe! Super excited to spend time with our friends in the gray boxes. 2020-the year of the MoMe's for casa Cannibal!

Posted by: Heidi at February 16, 2020 07:11 PM (Orx/W)

13 Neon Madman, That is one sweet target shot with one sweet revolver. I wouldn't trade my K-38 Masterpiece for anything. The Model 10 would go first.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:11 PM (7EjX1)

14 7 ... Vashta, Thanks for the quail hunt story. It must be extra special to share a hunt like that with your son.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:15 PM (7EjX1)

15 12 Hey Weasel! Cannibal Bob and I are registered for the NoVaMoMe! Super excited to spend time with our friends in the gray boxes. 2020-the year of the MoMe's for casa Cannibal!
Posted by: Heidi at February 16, 2020 07:11 PM (Orx/W
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Howdy Heidi! I was really excited to see your registration come through. Can't wait to meet you both!

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:15 PM (CQjeG)

16 Got a question for y'all. If, for whatever reason, you could only have a .22LR as your home defense weapon, what ammo would you choose? A solid for penetration, a frangible for soft tissue damage, or a hollow point to split the difference?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (nUH2t)

17 Howdy Horde! One of these came in the mail this week.
https://preview.tinyurl.com/snratg9 Looks good for the price. It's going with my polymer 80 not-yet-a-receiver. If your interested, they have 9 left

McGyver, over

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (gMngZ)

18 I have never heard of flavoring boiled peanuts by casting "aspersions" on them.

Is that one of them new-fangled spices?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:17 PM (tkyK5)

19 Bob,

Don't know the legality of it up in your neck of the woods, but I personally want to shoot a deer with an HP 22LR to observe the actual effects.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:19 PM (tkyK5)

20 That CMP 45 acp looks a lot better than I expected. They must have put some good work into them. It sure shows on the last Garand I got from them. Essentially, it was all new except for the receiver and carefully assembled. Compared to new rifle prices it was a bargain.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (7EjX1)

21 Gotta love the CMP. Ordered an M1 from them years ago, ended up with a Danish lend-lease Garand. Miss-matched wood (beech wood stock), but had a new chrome-lined danish barrel, dated 1968. My favorite rifle, and a tack driver, too.

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (U2zca)

22 That surplus 1911 is pretty cool
I had a 1991A1 some years ago and traded it in for something else
now I want one again cuz it's such a classic gun

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (iTXRQ)

23 18 I have never heard of flavoring boiled peanuts by casting "aspersions" on them.

Is that one of them new-fangled spices?
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:17 PM (tkyK5)
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Granny's recipe.

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:21 PM (CQjeG)

24 Ok, update on the rifle purchase.The FFL received the rifle on Tuesday and called to let me know he had it. (little did he know I was tracking that sucker all the way and knew exactly when he received it). :-DAs I had a full weeks work I was not able to go until yesterday to see the rifle and get my NICS check and fill out all the paperwork necessary for a NYC resident to own a rifle.I also brought the scope I had purchased for the gunsmith to mount on the rifle. I agonized what scope to put on this rifle as I made an impulse buy of a Vortex Strike Eagle 4-24x50 scope. I eventually decided to put the Nikon Prostaff P5 4-16x42 that I had purchased the previous week. I am saving the Vortex for another rifle I have my eye.I also purchased a hard case, a 5 round Mag (it is illegal to have a 10 round rifle mag in NYC) to replace the 10 round Mag that tragically was lost when my car went over one of the bridges heading to Jones Beach.
So after all is said I done I have left the rifle to have the scope mounted and I should be picking it up later this week. When I will be able to take it out to the range is anyone's guess. Not a fan of being at the range on cold, dreary days. I will keep you posted.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:22 PM (uyKdz)

25 Nice get, TWD! I'm envious!

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at February 16, 2020 07:23 PM (NWiLs)

26 . The NoVaMoMe, a Weaselbell Production, is pretty much the social event of the season, and one you simply cannot afford to miss!

Will there be a cotillion?

Asking for a friend.

Posted by: J. Random Moron at February 16, 2020 07:23 PM (El0Ll)

27 1, in addition to the marksmanship medal for rifle which is a musket in a long blue box with a wreath

The comment in the article as copied above describes the Combat Infantryman Badge which is only rewarded to someone in actual combat with and enemy.

Posted by: Sergeant Major at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (WffSE)

28 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)

Weasel, what happens in the cooking thread stays in the cooking thread. :-)

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (uyKdz)

29 Collectors Firearms in Houston, which I think is well known nationally, is going to relocate to a recently closed super Barnes and Nobles building.

Thats a lot of square feet to fill with guns. Me likey.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 16, 2020 07:27 PM (2DOZq)

30 16 ... "Got a question for y'all. If, for whatever reason, you could only have a .22LR as your home defense weapon, what ammo would you choose? A solid for penetration, a frangible for soft tissue damage, or a hollow point to split the difference?"

Bob, If it's an automatic, use whatever feeds the most reliably. If it's a revolver, preferably a 9 or 10 shot, you would have to test the ammo to see which produces the damage you want. Since I only use 22s for plinking and accuracy, I never gave thought to the damage the round does.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:29 PM (7EjX1)

31 What the SarMaj said about the CIB. And TWDs dad earned it

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 07:30 PM (gMngZ)

32 Posted by: Vashta Nerada at February 16, 2020 07:07 PM (Idr1T)

A quail hunt is on my bucket list. My pointer bitch turned 5 yesterday.

Posted by: clutch at February 16, 2020 07:32 PM (9UmRs)

33 Very nice-looking 1911A1, The Walking Dude!

I am in the running for one of those, but my lottery number is 17 thousand-something. I'm in the last 4 or 5 hundred. I believe they are up to 11 thousand-something, maybe in the 12 thousands now. I hope they don't run out of pistols before they get to my number.

A pre-Range report: Going tomorrow.

Posted by: Gref at February 16, 2020 07:32 PM (AMIL/)

34 Range report: Shot Steel Challenge yesterday.

If one shoots perfectly, a total 195 rounds will be shot.

If one shoots less than perfectly, such as someone like myself, round count will be just a tad higher.

Okay, maybe a tad and smidgen higher.

Good time, but, more importantly, quality time was spent with the sidearm.

Sig 1911 shooting 230 grain FMJ, if anyone is interested.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (WEBkv)

35 .22 lr for defense? Use a 40 grain high velocity solid. You want penetration, as you have little "stopping power".

Posted by: eastofsuez at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (U2zca)

36 Collectors Firearms in Houston, which I think is well known nationally, is going to relocate to a recently closed super Barnes and Nobles building.

Thats a lot of square feet to fill with guns. Me likey.

I thought Amazon was going to put ALL of the brick and mortar retailers out of business.

Are you trying to tell me that they still haven't figured out how to download an AR-10 to my Kindle?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:33 PM (tkyK5)

37 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?

Posted by: Weasel

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I was amazed to find out boiled peanuts are soft when you eat them.. and commented on WTF is wrong with you Southerners!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at February 16, 2020 07:35 PM (CjFDo)

38 1911A1 .Nice. I have a Auto Ordnance 1980's made. Looks like it was used every day in WWII but still goes bang. I am jealous, but the problem for The Walking Dude is that his CMP one is so nice he may not bring himself to fire it.

Posted by: NZFrank with a M2 at February 16, 2020 07:36 PM (bgJ0E)

39 Gub thread gainz thread.

I had trouble finding a good concealed carry situation. Mainly worked with belly bands and elastic band shoulder holster. I had settled on the last but it was an "eh" sort of answer. It worked well enough.

But well enough wasn't quite good enough so I ended up not carrying more often than not.

So among the things I did at Christmas was go very low carb and I shed about 15 lbs which was good. And, I got a better belly band, neoprene rather than elastic.

With reduced Dunlop and the better belly band (not expensive, $20), I find that carry is a lot more comfortable.



Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:36 PM (ZfRYq)

40 That CMP 45 acp looks a lot better than I expected. They must have put some good work into them. It sure shows on the last Garand I got from them. Essentially, it was all new except for the receiver and carefully assembled. Compared to new rifle prices it was a bargain.
Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:20 PM (7EjX1)
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I have both a CMP purchased refurbished M1 and an M1 I had CMP refurbish.

Both rifles look great, even though I've put a few hundred rounds through both.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:36 PM (WEBkv)

41 I am in the running for one of those, but my lottery number is 17 thousand-something. I'm in the last 4 or 5 hundred. I believe they are up to 11 thousand-something, maybe in the 12 thousands now. I hope they don't run out of pistols before they get to my number.

I bet if your father was a Senator with Biden as a surname, then you could easily improve your lottery number!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:37 PM (tkyK5)

42 Oddly enough, membership in the VFW will qualify one for using the CMP offerings.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at February 16, 2020 07:37 PM (tT0V4)

43 OT: A friend told me of his youtube channel. It is acoustic guitar, and I think he is very good. I have known him for years and I never knew this until today. Here he is.


https://tinyurl.com/sh42odm

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at February 16, 2020 07:39 PM (VpCKZ)

44 I tried to quote two previous comments, but my html tags failed to italicize the quotes.

Can anyone help out an old "Idiot" on the correct protocol?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:41 PM (tkyK5)

45 For those who want one of the CMP 45ACPs but don't luck out, check out the Rock Island GI series 1911. The look and function is the same and I read that many of the parts interchange with Colt made surplus 1911s. Mine has been reliable and damn accurate. I'm mostly a revolver guy but the RIA 1911 is a lot of fun.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:43 PM (7EjX1)

46 Gubs!

Thanks, Mr. Weasel.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 07:44 PM (1CjJc)

47 In 1911, I took a pistol off a fella by the name of Cornpop who was talking a bunch of malarkey. True story. My hand as a Biden. Not the one I use to touch little girls without their consent. The other one.

Posted by: Joe Biden at February 16, 2020 07:44 PM (H5knJ)

48 Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:41 PM (tkyK5)

You have to be careful about punctuation marks, some are not Pixy Compliant. When you see "black diamonds" in a quote then you know what is wrong.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at February 16, 2020 07:45 PM (VpCKZ)

49
I tried to quote two previous comments, but my html tags failed to italicize the quotes.


Just copy and paste from a Word document.

Posted by: deplorable unperson - a drunk at February 16, 2020 07:45 PM (ykID5)

50 Jeez, 1911s and CMP in one post. "These are a few of my favorite things."
Ya hit the sweet spot, boss

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 07:47 PM (Lw60G)

51 The Remington Rand 1911 was the first 1911 I ever fired, boot camp 1968. On other CMP stuff, you gub people have near bout talked me into buying a M1. Damnit.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (UUkQp)

52 As usual, most excellent thread, Weasel!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (WEBkv)

53 Thanks, deplorable.

I should have know there was a workaround.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:48 PM (tkyK5)

54 >Just copy and paste from a Word document.
Posted by: deplorable unperson


so if I compose my comment in word, with italics or whatever, it will paste in here without crashing the blog?

Posted by: DB- just DB at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (iTXRQ)

55 Smith and Wesson made some of the best revolvers ever.

Posted by: Kindltot at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (6rS3m)

56 Very nice pick up on that 1911 from the CMP.

Hopefully we will see M9's, M-14s and M16A1-3's and M4's down the road soon.

A man can dream.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (Z+IKu)

57 Argh, my "Thanks, deplorable." was in italics in the word document. Still didn't come through.

I will STFU and quit stomping on the gun thread.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM (tkyK5)

58
Hopefully we will see M9's, M-14s and M16A1-3's and M4's down the road soon.

A man can dream.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 07:49 PM (Z+IKu)
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BAR.

The military must have one or a dozen collecting dust somewhere...

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

59 S&W .357 was my first gub purchase.

I need to take her out more often.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (PkVlr)

60 Neon Madman delivered one hell of a cluster. Don't mess with him or he will definitely put a hole through you.

Range time! A fortnight ago I hit my beloved Top Gun Range in Houston and fired 549 rounds with my G26, Beretta 92 FS, and the beloved Sig P226 TacOps. (It was supposed to be 550 rounds but one round was a dud; I checked the back and the firing pin from the Beretta could not strike the casing any harder. Clearly there was an issue with the powder. Not enough perhaps to get the thing to go "boom"?)

As much as I love my Sig, I noticed two key problems with it: for some reason a screw came out of the handle on the left side, and the lime-green fiber optic piece that makes up the front sight was long gone. Fortunately, as I was staying in Galveston, I met Jim (he of the Sunk New Dawn) and his better half the night previous. (A gentleman and a scholar, he.) He recommended Collector's Firearms as a must-see place, and I tool his advice. I'm glad I did, because I asked if they could look at my Sig as they had gunsmiths on site. They did so, and revived the Sig to its original form. (I decided on a red fiber optic sight this time instead of the lime-green; I'll have to try this out on the range at some point. I figure that if I use a red dot in a M4 scope, I can use a red dot on the front sight of the Sig.)

And while at Collector's Firearms I looked through their selection of firearms, which is extensive, to say the least. While they were working on the Sig I was window shopping their selection, which again is extensive. So much so that I suspect this is why they will soon move to a new location in Houston that is not terribly far from their present location.

Eventually, I want to hit a range at minimum once a month. But my employment situation will need to be upgraded. Working on that.

(I'll bitch about TSA later - actually if I get a moment I will send a lengthy e-mail to Weasel about it for it could be good fodder for discussion.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (ZSGV5)

61 Beautiful Example on the 1911 A-1.
Been banging Steel like a wild man getting ready for my Gunsight Long Range rifle course in April.

Posted by: DBCooper at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (bttOm)

62 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?
Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)


Sorry, but eating boiled peanuts is like eating hot, hard snot in my experience.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (a4ua0)

63 Just copy and paste from a Word document.
Posted by: deplorable unperson


Teh Barrel is using socks now?

Posted by: Blanco Basura -It's OK, I'm with the banned at February 16, 2020 07:53 PM (6+cih)

64
I second the Rock Island GI series 1911; outstanding pistol for the money

Posted by: AltonJackson at February 16, 2020 07:53 PM (bu7Fg)

65 Herself wants an early dinner tonight, so, at best, i'll be in and out for now...

great poast though!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (SL3Nf)

66 When I was stationed in Greece in 1989 my unit was among the last in the active Army (non SF) issued the 1911.

My issue pistol was a bit rattly. If I recall correctly it had been a Korean War built pistol.






Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

67 Italics Tags

[ i] your text here [ /i]

(remove spaces)

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ykID5)

68 62 Didn't have a chance to read the cooking thread. Were aspersions cast on my boiled peanuts?
Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 07:10 PM (CQjeG)

Sorry, but eating boiled peanuts is like eating hot, hard snot in my experience.
Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 07:52 PM (a4ua0)

I was too busy chowing down on cashews to notice. Cashews are my drug of choice, and like drugs, they are addictive and expensive.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZSGV5)

69 How many auto pistols have an operating rod running through the middle of the main slide spring?

I am working on a Chinese Mystery Pistol which is basically a handmade copy of an FN model 1900, as illustrated here:
https://preview.tinyurl.com/weua3e7

but chambered in .30 Mauser instead of .32 ACP. Loading an empty .30 cartridge with a live primer, it will not strike the primer hard enough to fire it, although it does leave a dimple. When the spring is installed, and the slide not present, the spring seems to bulge out sideways, and is slightly polished from where it has made contact with the bore in the slide. I am wondering if this friction is slowing the expansion of the spring, and making the striker hit too feeble?

Would a spring with smaller O.D. work better, maybe?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 07:55 PM (LxWV7)

70 Thanks!

I was using carats.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:55 PM (tkyK5)

71 Damn, getting hungry now. Might be time for a late dinner.Be back in a few folks.

Posted by: Scuba_Dude at February 16, 2020 07:56 PM (uyKdz)

72 I had a (not CMP) 1911 Colt and loved it. #4 son asked to trade for it so I did and still have access to the weapon.

I did pick up a Springfield Armory CMP M1 eons ago - it had mismatched wood so I corrected that. Great shooter and loads of fun.

I'll bring her to TX as she would be PO'd if I didn't.

No range time this week.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (Y4EXg)

73 Weasel, finally got to bottom (late again) and was pleased to see Panteo Sportsman's Club. Was unaware of them and to think it's right there in Lexington County where I was born and raised.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (UUkQp)

74 I don't know if it's just our local store but The nearby Cabelas doesn't have a brick of primers, any size or brand, on the shelves. I was planning to get a few without the cost of Hazmat. No dice. I'm not aware of any general shortages of components so maybe they just can't keep the primers on the shelves. They did have brass, powders and bullets.

Lesson: Plan ahead to get components when possible. I don't actually need primers right now so it isn't important. This time.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (7EjX1)

75 66 When I was stationed in Greece in 1989 my unit was among the last in the active Army (non SF) issued the 1911.

My issue pistol was a bit rattly. If I recall correctly it had been a Korean War built pistol.






Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

To this day whenever I report to the range in the AF to shoot the M9, I hear people bitching about the M9 and how we should have never dumped the 1911. (I like the M9; I don't see the reason for the fuss.)

I wonder what the timetable for the rollout of the M17 is? That way I can plan on getting one of them for practice. This is why the Beretta was my first gun purchase - for practice in between range sessions in the AF.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 07:57 PM (ZSGV5)

76 Posted by: Sergeant Major at February 16, 2020 07:24 PM (WffSE)


Yeah, what he said.
(Back to reading the content.)

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 07:58 PM (LNiBi)

77 Meh, I'm holding out for the Cabot Meteorite 1911

https://preview.tinyurl.com/vvdw9k6

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 07:59 PM (KZzsI)

78 I didn't think Walking Dude needed a 1911 because he can get enough help from Captain Trips.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 08:01 PM (ZSGV5)

79 BAR.
The military must have one or a dozen collecting dust somewhere...
Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM (WEBkv)

Ooooo...good one. I bet there are a few collecting dust somewhere and they need to be liberated ASAP!

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at February 16, 2020 08:02 PM (Z+IKu)

80 And I do so love my Rock Island 1911.

She's purdy and pulverizes the center of the target all by herself.

Posted by: nurse ratched at February 16, 2020 08:02 PM (PkVlr)

81 Argh, my "Thanks, deplorable." was in italics in the word document. Still didn't come through.

I will STFU and quit stomping on the gun thread.
Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 07:50 PM


If you want to italicize something, perhaps like "Thanks, deplorable.", put an [ i ] (without the space before or after the i), in front, AND a [ /i ] (again, without the two spaces) after what you'd like italicized.

Failure to do the latter will result in a trip to The Barrel.

You DO NOT want to go to The Barrel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 08:03 PM (DMUuz)

82 Got a question for y'all. If, for whatever reason, you could only have a .22LR as your home defense weapon, what ammo would you choose? A solid for penetration, a frangible for soft tissue damage, or a hollow point to split the difference?

Bob, look up some of the gel tests with hollow points. I have seen 22LR shot from a 2" barrel that did not expand at all due to the lower velocity. Penetration was up to 11".

Of course, "it depends" is usually the correct firearms answer. You should be able to find some tests by a gun geek that are a pretty close match to the weapon you would be using.

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:04 PM (tkyK5)

83 OT: Lion in Winter just starting on TCM. One of my favorites. Fun Trivia - first feature movie for BOTH Timothy Dalton and Anthony Hopkins.

Posted by: Tom Servo at February 16, 2020 08:04 PM (V2Yro)

84 Meh, I'm holding out for the Cabot Meteorite 1911

Wonder how many 1911s they could get by melting down the Muzzy Mecca rock at Kaaba?

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:04 PM (ykID5)

85 Range report. Project bedding gun in .30-'06.
Not a fair test. 17 degrees, rusty operator, poor use of lead sled, etc. All operator error. 12 rounds rushed. One group of three had a single hole and one flyer.
But the bedding looks liked it set and worked well.
A new skill for the upcoming 6.5. This week!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:05 PM (Lw60G)

86 "People have a right to be safe on their own property, but people also
probably shouldn't locate near a shooting range if they don't like the
sound of gunfire."

We have a similar problem related air bases: people move in close to a military airbase (Air Force or Navy, usually) then complain about the constant noise over their houses. Didn't used to be a problem for a couple of reasons, but one was all the exclusion zones around the bases (and a LOT of airports) have been built into over the decades.
We had a spate of it about 10+ years ago in the Virginia Beach area. (Interestingly, about the same time the whole "poor Puerto Rican island is being bombed!" kerfuffle was ongoing.)

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:05 PM (LNiBi)

87 Oh, and really sweet pistol, The Walking Dude!
I got barrel envy.

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (LNiBi)

88 Wonder how many 1911s they could get by melting down the Muzzy Mecca rock at Kaaba?
Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper

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Uh, none?

As the material will be too radioactive for years to use.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (Y4EXg)

89 Me wanty .45 but I doubt I'd be lucky enough. Tried to get M1 beginning in 2002 from CMP. No luck

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 08:07 PM (pw+jk)

90 Fun Trivia - first feature movie for BOTH Timothy Dalton and Anthony Hopkins.

Ton of talent in that one. Great script, you couldn't really go wrong.

Wonder how many 1911s they could get by melting down the Muzzy Mecca rock at Kaaba?

ITs pretty big, probably can carve that baby up into a bunch of frames with a water cutter

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 08:08 PM (KZzsI)

91 Thanks for the advice about The Barrel.

(I am usually a lurker!)

So you're telling me The Barrel is not a local pub where AOS morons go to drink cheap scotch and tell good stories, and then afterwards roust a few hobos lying on the sidewalk?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (tkyK5)

92 Uh, none?

As the material will be too radioactive for years to use.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (Y4EXg)

Actually, iron itself cannot become radioactive. It's about the most stable atomic nucleus out there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (LxWV7)

93 what ammo would you choose?

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 07:16 PM (nUH2t)


A LOT of it! I'd make sure the weapon had large mags (most older .22s do) and I had loads of spares to keep shooting.

Oh, and I might make sure I had two of them. I have 2 hands, after all.

(If you get, say, 10% with decent penetration and expansion, then throwing 50 rounds at the guy as fast as you can pull triggers is going to get you 5 good hits.)

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:10 PM (LNiBi)

94 92 Uh, none?

As the material will be too radioactive for years to use.
Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:06 PM (Y4EXg)

Actually, iron itself cannot become radioactive. It's about the most stable atomic nucleus out there.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

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The stuff you learn here!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:10 PM (Y4EXg)

95 On the plus side, my workbench report is better: ordered and received F.A.T. wrench (torque screwdriver) and reset scope with loktite and used a level, of all things. Yep, project rifle was slightly off.
Gotta reduce all the variables . . .

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:11 PM (Lw60G)

96 BIL was there when they switched to the M9. He said it was to comply with UN and the 1911 was going to storage because ...deep affection.

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (Hg4NE)

97 Actually, iron itself cannot become radioactive. It's about the most stable atomic nucleus out there.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (LxWV7)


It will, however, be highly adulterated.

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (LNiBi)

98 RI Red,

What MOA did the project rifle shoot before?

What MOA are you trying to attain?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (tkyK5)

99 Most meteorites are mostly iron so yeah, pretty safe at least on the inside. Cobalt, nickle that kind of thing mixed in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 08:12 PM (KZzsI)

100 Long time Lurker, very, very occasional commenter here. I wanted to weigh in on the CMP. Short version: support and interact with them whenever possible!
A good friend said to me over 20 years ago that one of the best days of his life was the day a FedEx guy showed up to deliver his Garand. It took me years, but I finally got organized with my son, got the paperwork together and we each ordered ours. Delivery was one of the best days of our lives!
Better, though, has been taking the long trip from Tejas to Alabama to go to the armory and store. On my 3rd trip, last December, I arrived at 8 am and with 13 people in front of me when the door was unlocked. They had probably 40 Garands (and several 1903 and 1917s that they don't advertise). There were 2 serviced but all original Garands on the rack. Fun morning. I hauled back 2. And match ammo was on sale with a gun purchase!

Another lottery thing: their Advanced Maintenance Class. Well worth doing. You get to assemble and fine-tune your own Garand. Another 3 great days in my life.

Posted by: OSL at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (wNww/)

101 Flash Email Traffic: Temporary Sale - 1000 Rounds - 5.56mm 55 Grain FMJ M193 IMI Ammo Made by Israel Military Industries

$289.50 + $16.00 shipping + state sales tax

http://bit.ly/37vrZOY

5 in stock at the time I post. M16A1 food.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (yQpMk)

102 So you're telling me The Barrel is not a
local pub where AOS morons go to drink cheap scotch and tell good
stories, and then afterwards roust a few hobos lying on the sidewalk?

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:09 PM (tkyK5)


Well...it is a little bit more complicated, and horrifying, than that...

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet for Your Souvenier Impeachment Gear! at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (VpCKZ)

103 Catch Thirty Thr33 @ 75- I own all three, 1911, M9, and M17. Prefer the 1911, especially as mine is a Sig TacOps.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (UUkQp)

104 I apologize for being late to the gun thread, but I have another question for the Horde: I live in Harris County (Houston) Texas (rapidly going blue) and have a registered Mossberg 30.06 in my name that I gave to my son on his 30th birthday (30.06, close enough; I'll get him a .30-30 when he's 60 if I'm still around!). My son lives in deep blue Travis County (Austin) so he does not yet show up on any registration lists.

What does the horde recommend for a handgun for me in Harris County? I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions. Thank you in advance.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (ZD+J8)

105 Watching Harriet right now. You know, Black History Month.

I don't remember being taught that she escaped from...Maryland.

She carries a flintlock pistol. On topic.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:16 PM (ZfRYq)

106 Pillage Idiot, I was occasionally able to do .5 and .75 inch groups at 100 yds, with my best handloads. I wanted to get more repeatable accuracy. Still in project learning mode, but not bad for a Savage Axis.
Weasel has a report with pictures that he may be able to fit in some time.
But it's really a tryout for my Ruger American Predator in 6.5, which my gun guy swears will be here soon.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:17 PM (Lw60G)

107 I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions.
Posted by: jayhawkone

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What is the intended use of your new friend?

I like the CZ full size frames (75 Series) but that is just me.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (Y4EXg)

108 Watching Harriet right now. You know, Black History Month.


I liked that movie. They did a good job of plain-ing up the actress but still didn't do Harriet justice as she was, as someone put it at the time, unfortunate in appearance.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (yQpMk)

109 Catch Thirty-Thr33 _ IDK what the yung'uns in what used to be my Air Force are talking about when they say 1911. Before we went to the M-9, I was issued S&W Model 15 .38 spl. Frankly, I LIKE the M-9. I bought one as soon as I got out

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (gMngZ)

110 jayhawkone, you need to get ahold of Jim SND. He's not that far from you and would give you an opportunity to try several different weapons and a wealth of knowledge.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (CKxoR)

111 Another lottery thing: their Advanced Maintenance Class. Well worth doing. You get to assemble and fine-tune your own Garand. Another 3 great days in my life.

This actually interests me more than shooting. Arnold Schwarzenegger studied stripping, cleaning, and reassembling the guns he was to use in Terminator for months, until he could do so not only without looking, but with mechanical precision, robotic, even.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (KZzsI)

112 What does the word registered mean?

Posted by: Braenyard at February 16, 2020 08:19 PM (Hg4NE)

113 Thanks Tonypete: I think just range shooting but home defense is always in the back of my and my family's mind.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:19 PM (ZD+J8)

114 I finally did my indepth analysis of Virginia HB 961 (the assault firearms bill) and found that some of my earlier more cursory analysis was, well, wrong. They got tricky with the way they structured it. I know, surprise, surprise.

I think I will write it up and send it weasel and he can include it in the next gub thread or not.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:20 PM (ZfRYq)

115 Jayhawkone - as suggested up thread - try everything you can get your hands on. For me at least, hand fit and feel is very important and you will not know that until you hold 'em and use them. Good luck.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:21 PM (Y4EXg)

116 What does the horde recommend for a handgun for me in Harris County? I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions. Thank you in advance.

Do you have a gun range nearby that rents pistols? If so, go shoot 'em all.

The variables for each person matter a lot. Take your son, take your wife too.

I got my wife a S&W 9mm for Christmas, but she has not yet been out to the range!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:21 PM (tkyK5)

117 Need to get out to the range again with my G26 and my S&W Model 5906. The Glock is ok, but I much prefer the S&W. But it's basically too big for CCW...prints too much unless I use a "Sticky holster." Then it's a pita when driving and really uncomfortable. But then again, it's 15+1 and the Glock is only 10+1.

Our range is an outdoor 100 yd range, but someone is building a brand new gun shop with an indoor range close to Clemson University, about 10 miles from the house.

Posted by: Traveling Man&&&& at February 16, 2020 08:22 PM (a4ua0)

118 Grump, you are an excellent shopper! That is a skill I respect and admire.

Posted by: Emmie at February 16, 2020 08:22 PM (87gB3)

119 What does the horde recommend for a handgun for me in Harris County? I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions. Thank you in advance.
Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:15 PM (ZD+J


Concealed carry, nightstand full-size, whut?

Get a Sig can't go wrong. They got something in all the slots.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:23 PM (ZfRYq)

120 BTW, Walking Dude, nice score. I love CMP. I got an M-1 manufactured in March, 1945 and can imagine it might have gone off to the Japan invasion it we hadn't toasted their own mecca rocks.
Saweet shooter. Even with my 29 yo eyes, I can iron sight the 300 yd gong and make it ring.
Like Patton said, "The finest battle rifle . . ."

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:25 PM (Lw60G)

121 I carried an Army .45 on several occasions. Don't remember them being parkerized.

Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at February 16, 2020 08:25 PM (f4xAl)

122 No range report.
Working on restoring Lithgow wwII era no 1, mk 3 to firing status. Finally obtained a lebel forend for another restore, and picked up an Mas 36 adjustable rear sight used in frg Mas 36 French af rifle.

Natchez shooters supply has good prices on .223 and 5.56 ball ammo about 290 per 1000.

Should finally spend some quality revolver time at range this week.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:25 PM (EUDB2)

123 Thank you all for your comments. Athena has a range close by me that I believe rents weapons that my wife and I will try out. I always enjoy Jim New Dawn's posts from Galveston and hope to meet him soon. Ben Had, may I get on the invite list for the next Texas MoMe? I will travel across state to attend! I have no friends other than the Horde.

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 08:26 PM (ZD+J8)

124 @5 Scuba Dude- I am ordering a wolf spring kit and a Shok Buff (elastomeric buffer) that prevents the slide from hammering into the frame. Those WWII frames were spot heat treated and prone to cracking ergo the extra care since its a piece of history.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (cCxiu)

125 Since exciting new offerings from the CMP are so damn dramatic, we get a tendency to think of them as just a wonderful government gun store. That misses most of what they do over there.
In 1903, T.R. prevailed on the military authorities to set up the Board for the Promotion of Civilian Rifle Practice. If you hear old-timers talk about the good old days when rifles and ammo were provided more or less free of charge, you'll be hearing about them. The Director of Civilian Marksmanship was the heir to that, and the downside of all this government involvement was that the various state "Rifle and Pistol Associations" and the NRA lulled themselves into thinking that their main function was to keep records.

Slowly, slowly after WWII, NRA put together a structure for running regional and national championship matches in smallbore and high-power, but they absolutely hated it, since it cost a lot to do and the fees and dues did not cover it. The Olympic movement made things worse, since there were two sets of qualifying procedures, two sets of rules and targets, and Olmpians are a royal pain in the ass (I have a couple in the family).

NRA has never done anything in national competition but try to get out of the responsibility for putting them on. This has caused a very great deal of ill feeling about the NRA, because when you first join, or first start shooting, it just seems like the most natural thing in the world that they should be the national sanctioning body, and just naturally be in charge of fostering enthusiasm, paying for training and athletic developmet, and hanging targets. NRA would like to know how they make money on this.

So, along came the Clinton admin and the "end of history." Billy Jeff actually sent an Asst. SecDef up The Hill to testify to Congress that personal marksmanship skill was no longer required for the defense of the nation. Army was ordered to spin off all the offices and support procedures that had partially set up and supplied national matches. The DCM was to be shut down.

But those matches at Camp Perry (and by extension, the military and Olympic matches at Benning) were producing quite a lot of revenue, for shooting supply vendors, a few hotels and restaurants, and the post office at Lacarne. Enter the least likely gun advocate in the US, Dem Rep Marcy Kaptur, a one-time nunnery pledge and city planner. Unwilling to see several million in tourism revenue (and several thousand votes) just vanish, she campaigned stoutly to set up the CMP as it now stands, in charge of putting on training and matches, funded by surplus sales. She votes for every damn gun ban the Party demands, and yet you would not be getting those sweet-sweet carbines without her.
NRA is almost, not-quite out of the smallbore match business. The new ASSA and CMP have taken up all the slack, and the scene is a mess. CMP is trying hard, and doing pretty well, in establishing high-school and collegiate air rifle to take over the space that, 50 years ago, smallbore rifle clubs filled. The "World Series of Shooting" scene that used to be Camp Perry is shot for good. There are still some nice CMP matches there. The NRA show is at Atterbury -- and I count this as the 4th time the various nattering NRA out-groups have tried to find the "perfect" place to move the National Matches.


Posted by: Way, Way Downriver at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (8IOEj)

126 Also got a thousand rounds of Greek ammo for 50 cents a round. 1960s, I think; always goes bang. Still working through it.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:27 PM (Lw60G)

127 And now, while listening to the droning of lectures online and occasionally checking in with you guys and gals, I'll be reconstituting my guns. Cleaning them one by one after their range trip a fortnight ago.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 08:28 PM (ZSGV5)

128 9mm's are like potato chips. Can't buy just one. Most popular caliber in the world. And don't hammer my tit over this, I got other calibers besides 9mm, but 9mm is the one I carry for work and for 'fun'.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 08:28 PM (UUkQp)

129 MacGyver, ditto, I was issued model 15 and then later m9 beretta.

I liked the revolver and hated the m9 because it did not fit my hand as well as the k frame.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:29 PM (EUDB2)

130 Glad to hear good things about the Rock Island GI, I just decided to buy one last week.

Posted by: ck at February 16, 2020 08:29 PM (Gf0Po)

131 RI Red,

Have fun with your Predator!

However, I thought the barrel was already floated on that one.

I do think you need to invent a "smart target" that tells you what went wrong on your ammo/rifle when you do get a flyer.

BTW, what happened to the old big game hunters in Africa when they only had time for one shot and it was a flyer? (I think I know the answer.)

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:30 PM (tkyK5)

132 @8 CBD- yep definitely reparked. The barrel is a govt contract post 1949 barrel and the magazine is a government contract replacement so I'm sure it was rebuilt at some point prior to storing in the arsenal. There are no rebuild stamps though. They didn't always stamp them when rebuilt.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:30 PM (cCxiu)

133 Just got here.

Dang, Walking Dude!

Apologies, didn't read the thread (whut??), but the usual questions:

* which grade is that?
* did you request a WWII gun, as is common with the M1s, via a yellow sticky note on the application?

The parkerization - hell, the whole thing - looks new/freshly re-arsenaled & never re-issued.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:30 PM (El6T/)

134 jayhawkone, Oct 23/24 in Corsicana. There will be a notice in the left side bar later on in the summer with my contact info.

We look forward to meeting you and having you join us for a lot of shooting, food and fun.

Posted by: Ben Had at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (CKxoR)

135 What does the word registered mean?

In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (nUH2t)

136 Just went to the nearby Laundromat. Ad on the bulletin board: "9 mm Marlin rifle with scope and bipod, $500". No mention made of model.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:34 PM (LxWV7)

137 Eromero, 9mikemike is great, for many reasons.

Incredibly, I own only one so far (XD "Tactical" = 5-inch barrel) - love it. CZ-75 will be next, for sure. After that, not sure.

But at the range on duty day I've been seeing some very shweet 9mm AR platforms. Thinking of building one, as light as possible. Might even be something The Boss will feel she can handle easily (she's very good with the M1 carbine).

And - going to do a new 9mm load today. 700-X. Bought it during the last "panic" as a general purpose powder because it was available, want to use it up. Always use 124g round-nose now, usually plated, but got a great deal on some FMJ, so those will be "standard" for a while.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:34 PM (El6T/)

138 Yup, Predator is already free-floated, but I'm doing pillar bedding and receiver bedding to stiffen up the plastic stock. At some point I'll spring for a great stock, but optics, rifle, tools, etc. are eating into my social security!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (Lw60G)

139 Just went to the nearby Laundromat. Ad on the bulletin board: "9 mm Marlin rifle with scope and bipod, $500". No mention made of model.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February


or how many bodies are on it

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (HALdu)

140 Frankly, I LIKE the M-9. I bought one as soon as I got out



McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver



I like the M-9, too, McG. It's a solid pistol, I'll never carry one concealed (because I'm a little he-bitch and physically COULDN'T), but I think it's a fine, serviceable pistol. Picked a surplus one up years ago, re-sold it for a CZ-75 (which I don't regret even a little bit), but I loved my M-9 when I had one and I'd have zero issues carrying one again.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 08:36 PM (N4r5a)

141 jeez -


Two weeks ago Coronavirus was blamed on eating bats.
Last week they blamed pangolins.

Today on FOX Business - "it's the damn civet cats!!!!"

Apparently , Noah's Ark was pretty much ate up with Coronaviruses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:36 PM (ykID5)

142 What does the word registered mean?



In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (nUH2t)


Or, in the context of gun-*control* it means you have to tell Nanny Government which guns you own so they can later come looking for you for various _totally_ non-nefarious reasons.

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:37 PM (LNiBi)

143 The range where I am RO has been acquiring land all around it - I think the budget for several years (including a major improvement/re-work long in the works that will add quite a bit to the complex) has been put on ice, as every cent has gone to buying some land that has come up for sale.

Purpose - cordon sanitaire - a buffer against idiots who might want to interfere. This in a rural area, not heavily developed. BLM land on a few sides, then scattered ranches with homes on another side.

Haven't seen the latest, but last time I saw a map, the cordon was almost complete.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:37 PM (El6T/)

144 jeez -


Two weeks ago Coronavirus was blamed on eating bats.
Last week they blamed pangolins.

Today on FOX Business - "it's the damn civet cats!!!!"

Apparently , Noah's Ark was pretty much ate up with Coronaviruses.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February




you are worrying too much. the public info is garbage. the chicom are lying and nothing we get is any good.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (HALdu)

145 What does the word registered mean?

In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized

I thought it meant, "A well regulated militia . . ."

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (Lw60G)

146 Side note: After two Saturdays of pistol shooting, next Saturday is, *insert trumpet fanfare* the M1 Garand High Power Match for the other club I belong to.

Much as I loathe CA, I cannot fault the access I have to shooting sports where I live.

Also, I plan to see if I can arrange for a 2 gun match in this area. Rifle/pistol.

I have to propose the match to my club, then direct it, but, worth it, if it gives me a chance to do some CQB with the Garand. Shooting the Garand being the real reason I plan suggest our club host a match.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (WEBkv)

147 "9 mm Marlin rifle with scope and bipod, $500". No mention made of model.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


Sounds like a Camp-9? Not a bad price, nowadays. If private sale, always the lack-of-paperwork bonus, YMMV.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (N4r5a)

148 Late to the thread, on account of the gunsmith called with the news that my Colt Lightweight Commander was ready (after 4 months! - long story) and I just picked it up. It now has Novak night sights rear and fiber optic front. I think I really, really like it.

TWD, sweet CMP 1911. I've gotten several Garands, an 03, and a carbine from them in the past. Love them all.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at February 16, 2020 08:38 PM (zggXQ)

149 Only time I shot the M9 was at the factory in MD, brand new piece just off the line. Way back when, shortly after production started there. Also doesn't fit my hand well.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:39 PM (El6T/)

150 you are worrying too much. the public info is garbage.

And once again , you fail to accurately interpret my scorn.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:40 PM (ykID5)

151 you are worrying too much. the public info is garbage.

And once again , you fail to accurately interpret my scorn.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February


have I done this before?

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:40 PM (HALdu)

152 When I was stationed in Greece in 1989 my unit was among the last in the active Army (non SF) issued the 1911.



My issue pistol was a bit rattly. If I recall correctly it had been a Korean War built pistol.


Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 07:54 PM (ZfRYq)

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LOL, my unit at the time, HHT 1/18th Cav, had 1911's until the very late 90's. i may be one of the last people to have ever carried one in the field in 98/99. i was the 1SG driver, but w*rked in the arms room when at home station.

Top bitched at me once that he was carrying an M-9, issued by me, and i still had a 45. i told him that he had an example to set, so he got the new pistol, and i used the privileges of rank and position to issue myself a real pistol. (i retired with 19 years, 11.5 months TIG as a SP4/E-4)

Buck, here's a toast to you. a great man, Fu*ked over by a little one at the end of your career, to cover up his mistakes and failures.

McBreaty (sp?): you're alive only because it was illegal to kill you, and i know someone who was actively contemplating it, because DeDe and i talked him out of it. i just wish i had known it was you in the full porta-potty that morning...

it would have "blown over" on you, door side down.

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (SL3Nf)

153 ..I got my wife a S&W 9mm for Christmas, but she has not yet been out to the range!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot at February 16, 2020 08:21 PM (tkyK5)



I got a Smith & Wesson Model 14 Combat Masterpiece for my ex wife.

Best trade I've ever made.


*tip the veal, try your waitress!*

(and don't never, ever piss off Neon Madman. Wow!)



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (QzJWU)

154 Frequently. And with great gusto.

Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (ykID5)

155 blake I hope you get your 2-gun match going. I sense there's quite a quiet demand out there for such things, but the hassle of running them/inertia at gun clubs prevents very many from starting up. Because I hear talk about the topic all the time.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (El6T/)

156 or how many bodies are on it
Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:35 PM (HALdu)

Sounds like it might be a Marlin Camp Carbine.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February 16, 2020 08:42 PM (LxWV7)

157 blake, I've done the Garand High Power a couple of times and found the instruction and practice just fine. But Red Jr. outshot me. Probably a good thing.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:43 PM (Lw60G)

158 129 Whig The M15 was fine, and fit well enuff in my shoulder holster, but the M-9 for me just was a better "feel". If we were all the same this place would be boring. Now, I had to teach my driver(s)/body guard(s) in Colombia how to use my M-9 when I was in Bogota in the late 90s. They were using .38s, and totally unfamiliar with the M-9. If I wasn't able to use it I damn well wanted then to be able to pick it up as needed. Took all afternoon, but finally Ferhardo was able to get the hang of it and not shoot up the berm

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 08:43 PM (gMngZ)

159 Frequently. And with great gusto.
Posted by: deplorable unperson -I'm a helper at February



If it makes you feel better, it is nothing personal, I don't even remember commenting to you before.

Maybe you could invent a scorn tag or something to indicate it is scorn and not hysterics? emojii?

cause it comes across as hysterics.

Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (HALdu)

160 jayhawkone,

Since you are interested in targets and maybe HD, not concealed carry, I think the CZ 75 is the best 9mm out there. Like any semi-auto, it does have to be cleaned and lubed to maintain reliability.

If it could be a revolver (my preference) a Ruger GP100 357 or K-frame Smith, both using 38 specials, would be an excellent alternative. Either is capable of great accuracy. And I believe a double action revolver is the best home defense handgun.

But as others suggested, handle as many as possible to get a real feel for the weight and balance.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (7EjX1)

161 Started buying evil skeery gunz, and then discovered the CMP, just too late to get either an M1 carbine, or a 1903. Have since found a nice M1 carbine from a private seller - but the 1903s seemed to zoom in price after CMP sold out (well, duh). Some day. The synergies of reloading 30-06 and the quality of those rifles are compelling to me.

As long as I keep my core values and competencies aligned with the synergies, and leverage the mindspace and reach out to all stakeholders, I should be fine.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (El6T/)

162 I bet if your father was a Senator with Biden as a surname, then you could easily improve your lottery number!

Posted by: Pillage Idiot


Nope, wouldn't have made a bit of difference!

My word as a Biden!


/biden

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (N4r5a)

163 Sounds like it might be a Marlin Camp Carbine.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at February



Posted by: not so at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (HALdu)

164 @133 Rhomboid, I ordered a Service grade which was the best one. They don't let you sticky for the 1911's like they do with the garands. They tell you which grades they have when your number comes up and you pick the grade.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:45 PM (cCxiu)

165 3 Days left to enter to win a Zastava M91 at Classic

https://wn.nr/JcmdKm

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:46 PM (yQpMk)

166 What does the word registered mean?



In the context of guns, it usually means aligned or synchronized.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at February 16, 2020 08:33 PM (nUH2t)


Or, in the context of gun-*control* it means you have to tell Nanny Government which guns you own so they can later come looking for you for various _totally_ non-nefarious reasons.
Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 08:37 PM


What am I, chopped liver?

Posted by: S&W Registered Magnum at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (DMUuz)

167 What JTB said about HD revolver.

If you can find/handle a S&W Model 66 or 19, do so. 4-inch barrel. Balance is perfect. S&W has resumed making the 66 (stainless version) as part of their Classic line - and they're not giving them away, ahemm. However, good used 66s and 19s are still out there, I think. Or even a Model 10, an earlier police side-arm standard model.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (El6T/)

168 Seal the deal @ 140- CZ75 Sp-01 or M9 for carry? Both heavy, but the CZ feels like a cross between 1911 and Hi-Power, a match made in heaven, and thus the winner. Oh, yeah. Accurate as he-double-l.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (UUkQp)

169 My first firearm purchase was a Springfield Armory GI 1911 - repro of the WWII pistol.
It is the only one I have not lost in a tragic canoing accident.

Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (hXu8T)

170 It helps to have longish fingers with the Beretta 92/M9.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at February 16, 2020 08:48 PM (yQpMk)

171 @126 R I Red, yep I got bit by the garand bug too. heh. I was fortunate enough to get 1 crate of HXP from CMP right before they ran out of the Greek ammo.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:48 PM (cCxiu)

172 Thanks, Walking Dude.

Love the 1911, but had no interest in the CMP ones, at least not the level of interest that made the cost and hassle seem worth it.

Your 1911 has me questioning my approach here.

Though a 1911 in 9mm was my only 1911 ambition.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:49 PM (El6T/)

173 I continue to be amazed at the value prices that Palmetto State Armory offers.

A lower shipped for $129.

With HB961 crossed over to the Virginia Senate I think stocking up is wise.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:49 PM (ZfRYq)

174 OT:

Younger son and I went to the Avalanche/Kings game at the AFA last night.

Sucks that the Av's lost. But it was a friggin' brilliant event. I could write an essay about this weekend. I won't bore y'all, but hockey fans are pretty fucking pro-America. Even the random Kings fans around us.

The Air Force acapella group singing the National Anthem while the skydivers dropped into the field gave me goosebumps.

Gawdammit, I love America!

Fucking awesome weekend. Best part? Spending time with my son.

Thanks for listening.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 08:50 PM (x8Wzq)

175 Just about shot all my HXP (going to keep a few clips - yes boys and girls, the proper term here - just for the heck of it). I reload the brass from my HXP.

For reserve I got a 500-rd can of the Prvi Partisan Garand ammo.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:50 PM (El6T/)

176 As long as I keep my core values and competencies aligned with the synergies, and leverage the mindspace and reach out to all stakeholders, I should be fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (El6T/

All good, rhomboid. Just don't double charge.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (Lw60G)

177 Baer Custom .45. As JMB (PBUH) intended. 'Nuff said.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (DMUuz)

178 blake I hope you get your 2-gun match going. I sense there's quite a quiet demand out there for such things, but the hassle of running them/inertia at gun clubs prevents very many from starting up. Because I hear talk about the topic all the time.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (El6T/)
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My plan is to come up with match that is USPSA combined with Steel Challenge with a bit of IDPA tossed in for good measure.

I've got two stages designed, in my head, already.

I want to do one where one exits a car, pistol, retreat, open trunk, get rifle, finish stage. (we have a vehicle we use for such things)

Then another will be plate racks and poppers, move around the corner, rifle in hand, CQB on IDPA targets, last shot is a popper plate, which would be the stop plate for that stage.

I want a maximum of two stages that are combo pistol rifle and the rest all pistol or all rifle. Mainly due to time constraints because the transition from pistol to rifle and vice versa is time consuming.

I'm hoping for lots of lead in a short amount of time.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (WEBkv)

179 I've a 1911 we picked up by buying out an estate back in the nineties. The owner had brought it home after Korea with the brown leather US issue shoulder holster, two mags and some extra springs. It sat in his house afterwards for forty years. Its serial number makes it a Springfield arsenal 1911 from around 1920 that was also a Springfield arsenal rebuild during WW2.

Posted by: Cosda at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (O9VW1)

180 LOL, my unit at the time, HHT 1/18th Cav, had 1911's until the very late 90's. i may be one of the last people to have ever carried one in the field in 98/99. i was the 1SG driver, but w*rked in the arms room when at home station.

Top bitched at me once that he was carrying an M-9, issued by me, and i still had a 45. i told him that he had an example to set, so he got the new pistol, and i used the privileges of rank and position to issue myself a real pistol. (i retired with 19 years, 11.5 months TIG as a SP4/E-4)
...
Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 08:41 PM (SL3Nf)

That would be CARNG right?

I qualified it with active duty.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (ZfRYq)

181 I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions.

Posted by: jayhawkone



---



What is the intended use of your new friend?



I like the CZ full size frames (75 Series) but that is just me.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 08:18 PM (Y4EXg)

==
I concur. Recoil feels like a 22LR. Accurate as I am.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserious at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (pw+jk)

182 Pug, sounds fantastic. Would love to see one of the NHL outdoor games. And at that venue, wow.

Once saw a football game there. Flyover was, well, as you'd expect, impressive (*Air Force* Academy) - and it was late 80s, height of the Cold War, we had lots of s**t to fly.

B-1 finished off the fly-over. He effed up, came in way too low - was exciting and noisy in the upper deck where we were, the pilot got in trouble, but helped make the day.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

183 CMP 1911... very impressive.

Posted by: None shall pass at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (JdcHc)

184 MacGyver, rhomboid

Due to my hand size, pretty picky about what I buy to shoot. Best feeling semi automatic pistols for me are the hi power and the Smith and Wesson mp polymer series. Close third is a Smith 3rd gen pistol in Dao.

But then again the std at grip works for me which is not true for some. Ironically, I recently got a colt new service which is huge but it has good trigger reach for me with splinter grips. .

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (EUDB2)

185 I continue to be amazed at the value prices that Palmetto State Armory offers.

I've been hearing many good things about their PSAK-47. Tempted.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at February 16, 2020 08:54 PM (DMUuz)

186 @161 Rhomboid....they have 1903's sometimes at the CMP stores (South Store is in Anniston Al, North Store is in Port Clinton OH (Camp Perry) and the Talladega Store is in Talladega Al).

One of these days I'm going to make it to one of the stores.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 08:55 PM (cCxiu)

187 169 My first firearm purchase was a Springfield Armory GI 1911 - repro of the WWII pistol.
It is the only one I have not lost in a tragic canoing accident.
Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (hXu8T)

Not my first, but definitely one of my best. I put fluorescent paint on the sights and it works as intended. Big fat bullet going downrange to impact target. And it's waterproof despite many canoe trips.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:55 PM (Lw60G)

188 blake, I've done the Garand High Power a couple of times and found the instruction and practice just fine. But Red Jr. outshot me. Probably a good thing.
Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:43 PM (Lw60G)
----------------

I've been shooting High Power with a K-31. But, my eyes don't work very well with the sights on that rifle any more.

So, on to the Garand.

Darn.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 08:56 PM (WEBkv)

189 186 the walking dude, the south store is right at the new southern cmp range. That is one of the premier shooting ranges in the US and open to public.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (EUDB2)

190 Dang, blake, you're far away - I'd love to do a match like that. I'm not much for static (bullseye) matches, to put it mildly. Love action/movement matches with lots of steel.

A great steel match no longer in existence a bit north of me once had a night/Halloween shoot. Amazing. Even had an Anaheim PD cruiser - "borrowed" - from which we started one stage.

That steel match used to typically have a round count around 200-220. That's what I'm talking about. My long-time stand-by matches here locally have become pretty boring, and with round counts well under 100. For half a Saturday? Don't think so. Also far less interesting that it used to be, no moving or popper-actuated targets, lots of paper that needs to be scored (and I don't care about precision in a practical, action- oriented shoot).

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (El6T/)

191 Hello Horde!

I've got a question about people's Loctite habits. I'm indecisive, and I frequently move scopes and accessories around between firearms. For this reason I usually avoid putting Loctite on anything until I'm really sure I've found the right place for something.

That worked well enough until last weekend at the range when I offered a gun for Mark and Nurse to shoot, and the gun fell apart in Mark's hands. It was quite an embarrassment!

So, here's what I'm wondering:
1) How often do y'all apply Loctite when you attach an accessory to a gun?
2) Have you ever had problems with loose screws?
3) Have you ever wanted to remove an accessory, but decided against it because of the hassle of removing Loctite?

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (f0Pv6)

192 Um, if you expose iron to neutrons - released during fission process - you radioactive cobalt.

Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 08:59 PM (hXu8T)

193
I thought it meant, "A well regulated militia . . ."

I take my Metamucil.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 08:59 PM (aKsyK)

194 TWD, sadly I'm pretty far away from either AL or OH - but have suffered reading on the CMP forums about guys scoring great buys at both stores ...... maybe some day.

Would love to do the Garand armorer's course, too.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:01 PM (El6T/)

195 Hey Ero...

168
Seal the deal @ 140- CZ75 Sp-01 or M9 for carry? Both heavy, but the CZ
feels like a cross between 1911 and Hi-Power, a match made in heaven,
and thus the winner. Oh, yeah. Accurate as he-double-l.


Posted by: Eromero


P-01, not SP-01.

Finest pistols I've ever owned (I purchased 2 of the 600 imported into the US with the OD Cerakote from the factory a decade ago). I will never part with them. They are sacrosanct with me.

Actually, all my CZs are sacrosanct. I've never sold a CZ. I presently own 7. Finest firearms manufacturer on the face of the planet, IMHO.

Looking to can a Evo Scorpion pistol for Mrs. Seal-the-Deal this year.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:02 PM (N4r5a)

196 @189 Whig, yep, Ive been thinking about going to that range. If I ever get out that way I will certainly give it a try. Its not too far from Texas.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 09:02 PM (cCxiu)

197 Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:58 PM (El6T/)
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I'll make sure to give you plenty of advance warning, should the match come off.

It will be held on a Sunday, because it will take a couple of days to set up.

I don't expect the match to happen before September of this year, as it will take time to coordinate with club matches and the range we shoot at.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (WEBkv)

198 193
I thought it meant, "A well regulated militia . . ."

I take my Metamucil.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 08:59 PM (aKsyK)

I refer to that as my morning "constitutional".

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (Lw60G)

199 Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

Saw some F-35s fly over as we crawled along the road to the parking area. thankfully we got inside before the opening ceremonies.

I've been to a few hockey games (Avalanche, CO Eagles), so the ice, bizarrely, was farther away, but I was well able to follow the action.

Still. This was a very fun weekend.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, of the Butte Mahons at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (x8Wzq)

200 Whig, have you handled CZs? How about a CZ-83? I've raved about it before. The best naturally pointing handgun I've ever held or shot. Liked the surplus one I got from AIM so much I bought one of the last new ones when I stumbled across it in a local fun store. Pretty lucky. It was part of a final, small run done for an American distributor, after regular production had ceased (2013?).

Anyway, if you haven't, and can, try some CZs.

Speaking of which, anyone here own and shoot the CZ 75 Compact? Love how that handles.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:03 PM (El6T/)

201 @194, Rhomboid, Yep I'd love to take that course and assemble my own rife. Thats on my bucket list.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 09:04 PM (cCxiu)

202 So, here's what I'm wondering:
1) How often do y'all apply Loctite when you attach an accessory to a gun?
2) Have you ever had problems with loose screws?
3) Have you ever wanted to remove an accessory, but decided against it because of the hassle of removing Loctite?
Posted by: Lazy Messenger

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I don't have accessories per se but I do loctite (blue 242) a threaded barrel end protective sleeve. I remove the protective end for normal weapon cleaning and simply reapply.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 09:04 PM (Y4EXg)

203 Lazy Messenger - what gun was that??

Have used the blue Loctite on rollerblades, a few gun items (brass bead sight on the Mossberg 500 - sucker fell off). Not hard to break it.

Seal the deal - nice. Do you have the CZ-75 compact?

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:06 PM (El6T/)

204 Must be date night for Weasel.
Watch out, WD!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:09 PM (Lw60G)

205 Speaking of which, anyone here own and shoot the CZ 75 Compact? Love how that handles.

Posted by: rhomboid


Hey, rhomboid, see my comment a few up. The CZ-75 Compact and P-01 are pretty much the same...I think the Compact has steel frame and P-01 has aluminum (so weight difference), as well as P-01 has rail for light under barrel.

But...best firearm I have ever owned. First CZ I purchased. I liked it so much I purchased another. And because of them, I now own 5 other CZ firearms.

I'm just some random Moron who shows up for the thread, and I know everybody is a fanboi for their brand, but...

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:10 PM (N4r5a)

206 Nice 1911, Walking Dude.

I bid on a Remington as part of an estate sale. I bid way too low, silent, and there were others there who knew what they were bidding on.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:12 PM (1CjJc)

207 Seal the deal, no, "fan boy" is an unreasonable enthusiasm for something, sounds like yours is based on something.

I have planned to start with the CZ-75 full size. Have never handled a P-01, just the Compact (metal frame). We'll see.

Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 09:12 PM (El6T/)

208 Seal the Deal @ 195 correcto at S-01! Double Wild Turkey 101 typing here, boss!

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 09:12 PM (UUkQp)

209 Well, later all!

And, hope your evening is going well, Weasel, wherever you are!

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at February 16, 2020 09:13 PM (WEBkv)

210 Rhomboid

Yes, I handled and fired a Czech 75 and liked it. Handled a cz 82 but didn't want another cartridge on hand. However, as my recent semi autos buys are for sd purposes, I carry Dao or da/sa only without safeties and recently been using a beretta compact px4 in trad da or a single stack springfield xds.

Love the Browning hi power but best way to carry is cocked and locked. I can't guarantee swiping the safety without a lot of practice so it is a range gun only.

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 09:14 PM (EUDB2)

211 RI Red @ 187 - Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done!

Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 09:15 PM (hXu8T)

212 But...best firearm I have ever owned. First CZ I purchased. I liked it so much I purchased another. And because of them, I now own 5 other CZ firearms.

Posted by: Seal the deal

---

First time I shot a CZ I thought, oh yeah, this is for me. I didn't have much trouble getting use to DA/SA w/o a safety. I do have a wee bit of trouble not printing when carrying the SP-01 but what the heck? It suits me.

I am updating my wardrobe to fix that issue.

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 09:19 PM (Y4EXg)

213 Yeah, butch, that's me. Pretty sure they wrote a song about that.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:19 PM (Lw60G)

214 Very nice 1911 there. Clean.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:21 PM (XVuno)

215 what gun was that??
Posted by: rhomboid


Heh, I'm overstating a bit for effect. It was an AR pistol in 300BLK. It has a KAK Blade "arm brace" which is held in place by set screw, which walked loose and let the "arm brace" slide around loosely and drop off the end of the buffer tube. It also has a reflex sight with a quick-detach mount; that mount is tensioned by a set screw which also walked loose, so the quick-detach lever fell open and the sight toppled off the rail.

Posted by: Lazy Messenger at February 16, 2020 09:22 PM (f0Pv6)

216 Happy trails, y'all. Time to hit the rack and dream of boiled peanuts.

Posted by: Eromero at February 16, 2020 09:23 PM (UUkQp)

217 176 As long as I keep my core values and competencies aligned with the synergies, and leverage the mindspace and reach out to all stakeholders, I should be fine.
Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:44 PM (El6T/

All good, rhomboid. Just don't double charge.
Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 08:51 PM (Lw60G)

Value billing, FTW.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:23 PM (1CjJc)

218 I think I want a 9mm, but am definitely open to suggestions.

Posted by: jayhawkone

Browning Hi Power. It is the QUINTessintial 9mm. Of course there are good arguments for the CZ, Glock and many others. Some have 9mm 1911's and love them. I think that is a bit weird but don't doubt they are cool to shoot.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:24 PM (n13/j)

219 So, kinda- Gun Thread issue here....

Getting close to 29 (like most of us here), starting to get...fat. My IWB holsters are becoming...a little uncomfortable.


So, without going into details nobody cares about on this thread, I'll also be detailing my "woes" and "goes" in the next GAINZYO!!! thread.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:25 PM (N4r5a)

220 Just checking in guys - thanks for being here this week, even though I wasn't around much. Have a good week and I'll go over the comments and respond as needed. Goodnight!

Posted by: Weasel at February 16, 2020 09:26 PM (cb9b5)

221 OT

From insty:

Mike Bloomberg on farmers and machinists: "You all are just too stupid for today's world"

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/358512/

Tell me Mike, How stupid to you have to be to think that? How stupid do you have to be to SAY that publicly?

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at February 16, 2020 09:26 PM (LWu6U)

222 Have a CZ83 that's a tack driver. Love to get a threaded barrel and can for it.

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 09:27 PM (B7KlG)

223 Thanks Weasel!

Posted by: Tonypete at February 16, 2020 09:27 PM (Y4EXg)

224 211 ..."Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done"

butch, That reminds me of one of my favorite lines:

"I may be slow but I got direction."

Seems increasingly pertinent these days.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:27 PM (7EjX1)

225 What am I, chopped liver?
Posted by: S&W Registered Magnum at February 16, 2020 08:47 PM (DMUuz)

This.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:28 PM (1CjJc)

226 Spoken like a true lawyer, flounder. Well, I'm taking another bar exam in a week so I'd better get my beauty rest. I'm getting too old for this scheiss.
Night, all!

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:28 PM (Lw60G)

227 Thanks again, Mr. Weasel. I second weaselbell's mome sentiments. Lurkers delurk.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:29 PM (1CjJc)

228 Ive bought 1911's new and shot them until the barrels looked worse than that one from the CMP

Posted by: Jean at February 16, 2020 09:29 PM (B7KlG)

229 That would be CARNG right?



I qualified it with active duty.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 08:52 PM (ZfRYq)

---
sorry, i forgot to throw that designator in there...

i tell people, especially nosy Fu*ks at the VA, that i wasn't really in the Army, but was instead part of the world's largest military reenactment group, since we were always 3-4 cycles behind AD and others in getting new gear.

first M-1 to hit my unit was an IP version from Korea, and i never did see a M-240 that wasn't mounted on a tank, and therefore not in my arms room.

i was a bit surprised the day i found the same Pig we took to Arkansas for the national matches back in the early 80's when i was C-3/160 INF (M) in the lockers there at Ontario. it was like old home week. oink, oink, oink!

Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 09:30 PM (SL3Nf)

230 Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:28 PM (Lw60G)

Cram for it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:30 PM (1CjJc)

231 Goodnight everyone. Thanks for the kind comments on the 1911. Thanks for another great gun thread Weasel.

Posted by: The Walking Dude at February 16, 2020 09:31 PM (cCxiu)

232 Thanks weasel, goodnight y'all

Posted by: Whig at February 16, 2020 09:31 PM (EUDB2)

233 Whelp, It's time for my cold medicine to kick in! Good talking with folks, and ThanX! Weasel! for another gub thread. L8tr, All

McGyver, out

Posted by: McGyver at February 16, 2020 09:32 PM (gMngZ)

234 CZ's are very nice, high quality and of good value. I bought the very rare CZ 75 S/A. The function of the gun was great but there were some things I didn't like so much. If I remember correctly, the upper slide was a bit small for me.

But it really comes down to personal preference. I got the CZ when what I really wanted was a BHP. Some of that is style over substance, no doubt there. Both are good guns. OF course the BHP has a small cult following and not much else. they don't make it any more. If you do look for a vintage BHP, the T and C series guns are considered the best.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (n13/j)

235
..."Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done"

Actress and left-wing activist Lena Dunham made her runway debut at London Fashion Week last week alongside traditional fashion models.

Lena Dunham, a vocal critic of President Donald Trump, walked in a show for the brand 16Arlington of which she has worn designs by in the recent past.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (aKsyK)

236 I'm so totally considering a trip to the Nova MoMe, but...my 20th Anniversary is May 6th...I'm already committed to the Epicenter 3-day Metal-Fest in Charlotte the weekend before...

I so super-wanna-go to the NoVaMoMe...if I did, rhomboid...I'd so totally bring my CZs!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (N4r5a)

237 Thanks to Weasel and all for another great gun thread. Always a nice way to end the week.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:34 PM (7EjX1)

238 There's a boiled peanut in my pants.

Posted by: Jerry "Comedy Gold" Nadless at February 16, 2020 09:37 PM (EgshT)

239 CZ's are very nice, high quality and of good value. I
bought the very rare CZ 75 S/A. The function of the gun was great but
there were some things I didn't like so much. If I remember correctly,
the upper slide was a bit small for me.

...


Posted by: Quint



Good point, Quint! That was actually one of my selling points on the CZ...the slide slips INSIDE of the frame. Thus making a smaller slide. For smaller folks like myself, that IS the selling point.


Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:37 PM (N4r5a)

240 Spoken like a true lawyer, flounder. Well, I'm taking another bar exam in a week so I'd better get my beauty rest. I'm getting too old for this scheiss.
Night, all!

--------

"Another"? Is this like a hobby?

Word to the wise: Stamp collecting can be both exciting and educational. Just sayin'

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (XVuno)

241 236 ...
Seal the deal,

There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe. It's strictly an evening to get together and chat. The TxMoMe has all the shooting.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (7EjX1)

242 Thank you Weasel for the gun thread and to everyone who commented on my naive request for 9mm recommendations. I hope to get to Athena to rent several (hopefully they have a CZ and a Browning as previously suggested). I have a brother-in-law who lives in Trinidad close to Corsicana, so maybe we can both come to the October Texas MoMe. Thank you all!

Posted by: jayhawkone at February 16, 2020 09:41 PM (ZD+J8)

243 "Another"? Is this like a hobby?

Word to the wise: Stamp collecting can be both exciting and educational. Just sayin'
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (XVuno)

And it gets the ladies.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at February 16, 2020 09:42 PM (1CjJc)

244 Cicero, I thought I had retired. Didn't work out. Sumbiches in a certain northern state said, you need to take the bar. Already done it for three states and waived into a fourth.
My brain hurts.

Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:42 PM (Lw60G)

245 I'm so totally considering a trip to the Nova MoMe,
but...my 20th Anniversary is May 6th...I'm already committed to the
Epicenter 3-day Metal-Fest in Charlotte the weekend before...

I so super-wanna-go to the NoVaMoMe...if I did, rhomboid...I'd so totally bring my CZs!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:33 PM (N4r5a)

My anniversary is may 7th, but I'm still going. I'm bringing the other half, she didn't blink at the idea, so fuck it.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 09:43 PM (9Om/r)

246 Seal the deal,



There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe. It's strictly an evening to get together and chat. The TxMoMe has all the shooting.

Posted by: JTB


LOL, thanks for pointing that out.

I simply meant that, had we both been going there, we could have found a local range (surely there are ranges there!) and had a grand afternoon before the gathering!

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:44 PM (N4r5a)

247 Good point, Quint! That was actually one of my
selling points on the CZ...the slide slips INSIDE of the frame. Thus
making a smaller slide. For smaller folks like myself, that IS the
selling point.




Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:37 PM (N4r5a)

Yep, that is the point for sure. Everyone has different needs and interests. Just like I would never recommend any new shooter going for a BHP unless they have shot one and like the looks and characteristics. Some guy getting a BHP site unseen and then finding out about trigger bite would be a bad scene.

For sure get to a good range, meet with some friends, do whatever to try various hand guns out is my advice to anyone really. There is a reason people get rid of a lot of previously sought after weapons.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:45 PM (n13/j)

248 Word to the wise: Stamp collecting can be both exciting and educational. Just sayin'
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (XVuno)

And it gets the ladies.
Posted by: flounder
--
Philately, is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 09:46 PM (KoKdw)

249 RI Red @ 187 - Old, fat, and slow still gets the job done!


Posted by: butch at February 16, 2020 09:15 PM (hXu8T)

---
i just bought two t-shirts on line with that pretty much the same comment.

i'll send in a pic when i get them in a week or so, and i also resemble that remark.


Posted by: redc1c4 at February 16, 2020 09:47 PM (SL3Nf)

250 simply meant that, had we both been going there, we
could have found a local range (surely there are ranges there!) and had
a grand afternoon before the gathering!


Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:44 PM (N4r5a)

there is definitely a range there. The NRA HQ is there. They also have the national firearms museum.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:47 PM (n13/j)

251 My anniversary is may 7th, but I'm still going. I'm bringing the other half, she didn't blink at the idea, so fuck it.


Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division


I hear ya, B-DD...I'm just already committed to the weekend before.

It would be super-awesome to meet you and your bride, though.

Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:48 PM (N4r5a)

252 ..
Philately, is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at February 16, 2020 09:46 PM (KoKdw)



It gets my stamp of approval. After all, it *is* the original Cancelled Culture.



Jim
Sunk New Dawn
Galveston, TX

Posted by: Jim at February 16, 2020 09:48 PM (QzJWU)

253 To me, the selling point of the CZ is this: if you run out of ammo, you can still kill the bad guy by just one sharp blow. You wouldn't need to pistol-whip much in a defensive situation with one. Why?

Those things are SOLID blocks of metal.

The nice thing about that is that I have found that the CZ attenuates recoil because of their size. I don't know if I'd get one or not.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 09:49 PM (ZSGV5)

254 For sure get to a good range, meet with some friends, do whatever to try various hand guns out is my advice to anyone really. There is a reason people get rid of a lot of previously sought after weapons.
Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 09:45 PM (n13/j)

This is why I love Top Gun Range in Houston. TONS of guns to try out. You can rent one with fifty rounds and find out if it's up to your liking or not.

In a very real sense, guns are like shoes. It makes sense to try one out before settling on one. One may look cool but be terrible for handling for whatever reason (and may yet work extremely well for someone else).

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at February 16, 2020 09:51 PM (ZSGV5)

255 I hear ya, B-DD...I'm just already committed to the weekend before.

It would be super-awesome to meet you and your bride, though.


Posted by: Seal the deal and let's boogie (nee Oedipus) at February 16, 2020 09:48 PM (N4r5a)

We're thinking about doing the texas thing when it happens. We were talking about doing some smaller trips instead of one big trip every year. What part of texas is it?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 09:52 PM (9Om/r)

256 Love my RIA.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice... EJEXIT: If Not Now, When? at February 16, 2020 09:52 PM (EQRLd)

257 I love the CZ-75. My only experience with them is the original version. It was impressive.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at February 16, 2020 09:54 PM (9Om/r)

258 What part of texas is it?
Corsicana, about an hour south of Dallas on I45.

Posted by: Panhandler at February 16, 2020 09:54 PM (S/rwf)

259 I talked myself into buying a another PSA lower while on this thread.

So cheap. Ships to a place close by that charges $20 transfer for veterans.

I am thinking of maybe stocking up on lowers as the uppers are not firearms for later.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 09:57 PM (ZfRYq)

260 That is fine shooting, Neon Madman.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 16, 2020 10:01 PM (d1uFV)

261 244 Cicero, I thought I had retired. Didn't work out. Sumbiches in a certain northern state said, you need to take the bar. Already done it for three states and waived into a fourth.
My brain hurts.
Posted by: RI Red at February 16, 2020 09:42 PM (Lw60G)

--------

Yikes. That's rough. My condolences.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at February 16, 2020 10:04 PM (XVuno)

262 Posted by: rhomboid at February 16, 2020 08:53 PM (El6T/)

I remember that one!!!
Woohoo, it was fun!

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 10:07 PM (LNiBi)

263 Good news range report. As usual, wall o' text warning.
TL;DR - Glock 44 is shaping up, was a mag spring issue.

So, spent all of yesterday's range visit trying to iron out what was going wrong with the G44. My gut told me it was the magazine design, Moron Lazy Messenger said it was probably the mag springs. He was right.

Loading 9 rounds, I had zero malfunctions. So I spent most of the session loading 6 rounds for some drills with Nurse Ratchet (5 yards and 7 yards: strong hand only 6 rounds, reload and then weak hand only 6 rounds).

Doing this for about 300 rounds, I decided to try loading the magazines to full 10 round capacity. I did and it worked! No malfunctions at all for the next 100 rounds.

I'll do a full inspection and cleaning later this week, but the main quirks seem to have worked themselves out! So I will have a functional Glock 19 stand in for training. The accuracy has been very fine, by the way.

I also got to spend some quality time with my CZ P-07 Kadet adapter, which is very very nice. I shot better with it, because DA/SA and the SA trigger is Quality.

I do suck at weak hand shooting. Very much sucking. So more training on that next week.

The Nurse, by the way, is very good even one handed and even weak hand only. So...watchit.

It was a very good day at the range.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at February 16, 2020 10:08 PM (d1uFV)

264 There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (7EjX1)


Well, why the hell not?

Posted by: GWB at February 16, 2020 10:18 PM (LNiBi)

265 There's no shooting at the NoVaMoMe.

Posted by: JTB at February 16, 2020 09:38 PM (7EjX1)


So far.

Posted by: blaster at February 16, 2020 10:19 PM (ZfRYq)

266 "Well, why the hell not?"

Because Virginia

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (w7KSn)

267 Well, why the hell not?"



Because Virginia

Posted by: attila the thrilla at February 16, 2020 10:26 PM (w7KSn)

what
the hell has happened to this world where Virginia is a cautionary
tale? A year ago Virginia was at the cutting edge of 2a rights and
their state organizations were models for others. That is a warning for
everyone really, don't get complacent.

And
one final point. I love the looks, style, history, and shootability of
the BHP. It is a still the quintessential 9mm wondergun to many. But
"In no way do I recommend it to a newbie or anyone who just owns one
gun. Sure you can learn to use it and it should work well. It will also
be a thing of beauty and only go up in value. There are no major design
flaw unless you are shooting IDPA or something.

But
I would not pick it as a first gun. Hell, there is nothing wrong with
the G19 really as long as you get good instruction. The BHP is a thing
of beauty to many and no other gun points as well. The Glock in
particular points weird for those used to 1911s and more classic
firearms. But you can get used to anything.

I
am not referring to the OP as I don't know his situation. But If I
were to recommend a first firearm to someone, it would likely be a wheel
gun or Glock. They key is don't pull that trigger full stop. And get
good training.

Posted by: Quint at February 16, 2020 10:41 PM (n13/j)

268 Well the Presidents didn't rate a day off at my company so off to bed so I can wake up in 6 hours.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at February 17, 2020 01:16 AM (2DOZq)

269 Had the same problem with the carbines. Glad I got the M1 when I did!

Posted by: Bama Bubba at February 17, 2020 11:08 AM (mAxkE)

270 Good post but I was wondering if you could write a litte more on this topic?

I'd be very thankful if you could elaborate a little bit
more. Thanks!

Posted by: agen at March 12, 2020 08:13 AM (tZJHS)

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