Federal Judge Orders Rare "Snap" Hearing, Demanding That the Department of Justice Explain Why It Is Keeping Documents About Imran Awan Secret

Some of this shit, he needs to straighten out personally.

I know the Deep State subverts him. But ultimately, the president has all the power of the Deep State and then some. He can just step into any office and declare that he'll be making all the decisions for the next several hours.

And it's about time he started to do so.

An apparently frustrated federal judge ordered attorneys for the Department of Justice (DOJ) to appear Wednesday in a "snap" hearing to explain why the government is not producing documents sought by Judicial Watch concerning former Democratic information technology aide Imran Awan....
"In a hearing last month, U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta expressed frustration and ordered the Justice Department to explain its failure to produce records by January 10 and to provide Judicial Watch some details about the delay," Judicial Watch said in a statement Tuesday about the snap hearing.
"Instead, the Justice Department made its filing under seal and has yet to provide Judicial Watch with any details about its failure to produce records as promised to the court," Judicial Watch said.

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1 First?

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:09 PM (9PapW)

2 FIRST!

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 02:09 PM (wtvvX)

4 Indeed

Posted by: Radio Control Submarine Unit at January 15, 2020 02:10 PM (Eg9+v)

5 Corgi-shaped canines alerted.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 02:10 PM (wtvvX)

6 It would seem easy for a truly deep state to destroy any incriminating documents before they would give them up to some info request. They can create a pretty convincing birth certificate, for crying out loud.

Posted by: vrf at January 15, 2020 02:11 PM (L8qt4)

7 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

Posted by: Garrett ( okay not garrett) at January 15, 2020 02:11 PM (qcIWB)

8 Deep-State criminals gonna criminal.

Posted by: Tex Lovera at January 15, 2020 02:12 PM (wtvvX)

9 Awan a know what's going on here!

Posted by: Hizzoner at January 15, 2020 02:12 PM (RD7QR)

10 I think Trump and Barr have been waiting for a black robed tyrant to order this so they can start firing people without the unfree press saying ITS JUST LIKE HITLERRRRRRRR!

Posted by: Captain Hate at January 15, 2020 02:12 PM (y7DUB)

11 The forgotten scandal. Likely a lot bigger than anyone in the public knows. And implicates a LOT of Democrats.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (BJAwB)

12 Oh snap.

Posted by: DoJ at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (8X42K)

13 7 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.
Posted by: Garrett ( okay not garrett) at January 15, 2020 02:11 PM (qcIWB)

It's long past time for SCOTUS to step on these clowns.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (RD7QR)

14 If that guy wasn't on Pakistani ISI payroll, I will eat both of my size 10 Allen Edmonds wingtips live on national television.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (Boy/L)

15 An apparently frustrated federal judge ordered attorneys for the Department of Justice (DOJ) to appear Wednesday in a "snap" hearing to explain why the government is not producing documents sought by Judicial Watch concerning former Democratic information technology aide Imran Awan....

Who runs DoJ Town?

Apparently it isn't Barr.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (bd376)

16 I just picture the scene in The Devil's Advocate where Keanu ( Lomax) discovered a late night shredding party going on at the office.

Posted by: Garrett ( okay not garrett) at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (qcIWB)

17 Trump has a lot in his plate with all these enemies foreign and donestic.

Posted by: steevy at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (KNsKs)

18 Major firings should be taking place. Trump should not allow this open defiance to stand. Now, I admit I don't understand the workings of Washington. But allowing this rank insubordination to continue is unlike Trump.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (qhmX5)

19 SharkMouth needs to fresh her mayonnaise hair.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (ptqGC)

20 Is Trump president or not?

Some of this shit, he needs to straighten out personally.

===

This is echoes my thoughts - on SO many things.

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (xptlg)

21 LOLGF

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (NSFCQ)

22 China Trade Deal Phase One signed!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (H9cB7)

23 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

We need a precedent for keeping these confined to the district where the clown sits. Idiotic national adherence to this political crap has to stop.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (Boy/L)

24 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

The legal reasoning on that one must be strait-jacket worthy.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (BJAwB)

25 Imran Awan. Is that Ilhan's new boy toy?

Posted by: wth at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (v0R5T)

26
Who runs DoJ Town?

Apparently it isn't Barr.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (bd376)

The bureaucrats. Permanent staffers.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (9PapW)

27 How did that sock get back on my post?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:15 PM (qcIWB)

28 Been almost a full 24 hours and so far the DOJ is just flipping the judge off. Because, what is he gonna do about it? The judge has to rely on them to enforce the ruling. Against themselves.

Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:15 PM (KZzsI)

29 Is Trump president or not?

Some of this shit, he needs to straighten out personally.

====

This is what I keep saying about the Flynn stuff!

C'mon Barr!

Posted by: Tami at January 15, 2020 02:15 PM (cF8AT)

30 China Trade Deal Phase One signed!

Unfortunately, we did not survive to see it.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 02:15 PM (Boy/L)

31 23 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

We need a precedent for keeping these confined to the district where the clown sits. Idiotic national adherence to this political crap has to stop.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (Boy/L)

Who is this bastard? Is he " Judge of all the Russias" or what?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:16 PM (qhmX5)

32 >>I know the Deep State subverts him.
Other leaders--even leaders of constitutional republics--have been subverted.They have mastered the bureaucracy by putting ruthless ball-cutters in places within the palace where balls needed to be cut.

LBJ, for example, had the benefit of a partisan Congress, but if he hadn't, he knew how to do this and would have.

Trump's initial AG pick ought to have been proof that he understood this truism, ought to have been his first eminence grise. Obviously, he was not.
He ought to have learned by now that his will alone is insufficient. He must impart that will to others and tell them to go hunting, and fire them if they don't bring him scalps.

Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 02:16 PM (qXNVo)

33 >>The forgotten scandal. Likely a lot bigger than anyone in the public knows. And implicates a LOT of Democrats.

Awan's lawyer was one of the Clinton fixers. Their tentacles go everywhere.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2020 02:16 PM (ZLI7S)

34 22 China Trade Deal Phase One signed!
Posted by: Guy Smiley at January 15, 2020 02:14 PM (H9cB7)

DJIA = 29,090.36, +150.69

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at January 15, 2020 02:16 PM (RD7QR)

35 Trending now. Heh

#cnnisgarbage

Posted by: Ha at January 15, 2020 02:16 PM (NSFCQ)

36 Put the DoJ lawyers into the stocks and let the Judicial Watch folks pelt them with rotten tomatoes.

Posted by: Anna Puma at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (ug/9A)

37 But yes, I agree the chief executive who is in charge of all the agencies has the power and authority to command action and punish inaction. He needs to flex that muscle even though I know he really doesn't like to do that kind of thing (more a big picture guy).

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (KZzsI)

38 Rope, Lampposts. Some assembly required.

Posted by: Paladin at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (1IDog)

39 Bawack HUSSEIN Ubama is the perpetual President.

Posted by: Constantine XI at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (yiAMj)

40 No, I do not know what Trump's game plan is.
However he does have more information than I do, and so far he has been successfully navigating through all of the traps that have been set for him. So while all of the waiting is bothersome it isn't me that would bear the brunt of any misstep and therefore he gets the benefit of the doubt regarding the validity of any tactic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (hLRSq)

41 hiya

Posted by: JT at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (arJlL)

42 Laws are for little people.

Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (uFCZe)

43 U.S. District Court Judge Amit P. Mehta= Obama Blackrobe.

They follow no real law except Democrat is always right.

Posted by: Vic at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (mpXpK)

44 In a rare stand of solidarity, the Russian prime minister and cabinet has resigned, we don't yet know why, but some speculate it is because they no longer felt comfortable meddling in US elections on behalf of the bad orange man.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (dNzKv)

45 It'd be hard to convince me that Jeff Sessions main job when picked was to stand hard and fast on top of the brakes when Trump started looking around the executive and asked questions.

DC is a rancid beozar of corruption, sociopathy, and power obsession.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (UdCe2)

46 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

This is the main flaw with giving judges the final say on things. There's no check or balance against this kind of action other than other judges. And that is not how our system is supposed to work.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (KZzsI)

47 My guess is because it will reflect badly on the donkey party. Deep State is the donkey party's body man.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at January 15, 2020 02:19 PM (pw+jk)

48 Trump practices #LetItBurn.

Moron horde demands speedy FireThemAll department.

Posted by: DaveA at January 15, 2020 02:19 PM (FhXTo)

49 I saw no point in prosecuting that sweet Awan family business. It was time to sweep it all under the rug and allow the noble opposition to move on! It's the American way.

Posted by: Snoreregard, the reasonable puppet of Roddy at January 15, 2020 02:19 PM (U7k5w)

50 46 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

This is the main flaw with giving judges the final say on things. There's no check or balance against this kind of action other than other judges. And that is not how our system is supposed to work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (KZzsI)

You imply that Judges have a Country Club mindset?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:19 PM (qhmX5)

51 44 In a rare stand of solidarity, the Russian prime minister and cabinet has resigned, we don't yet know why, but some speculate it is because they no longer felt comfortable meddling in US elections on behalf of the bad orange man.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (dNzKv)

Is time for ermine robes and Cap of Monomakh. Look good on me, nyet?

Posted by: Tsar Vladimir I at January 15, 2020 02:20 PM (RD7QR)

52 40
No, I do not know what Trump's game plan is.

However he does have more information than I do, and so far he has
been successfully navigating through all of the traps that have been set
for him. So while all of the waiting is bothersome it isn't me that
would bear the brunt of any misstep and therefore he gets the benefit of
the doubt regarding the validity of any tactic.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (hLRSq)

If I had to guess, I would say he is waiting for the second term to begin the wholesale slaughter.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:20 PM (1CjJc)

53 Bawack HUSSEIN Ubama is the perpetual President.
Posted by: Constantine XI at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (yiAMj)

That's how the Left/Media feels and why they hate so much that Trump is President.
He is dismantling Barry's "legacy" piece by piece and he may have another 4 years to do it....

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2020 02:20 PM (CqE5x)

54 It's like the broken windows theory. If your city allows broken windows to go unfixed, and window breakers to go unpunished, you will encourage worse crime. These DOJ clouds are window breakers. Put some of them in jail. Start creating order and a respect for the law again.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2020 02:21 PM (F3n4E)

55 42 Laws are for little people.
Posted by: Insomniac - Ex Cineribus Resurgo at January 15, 2020 02:17 PM (uFCZe)

Unless they do IT work for the democrats, then the law doesn't apply to them either.

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 02:21 PM (U7k5w)

56 if a judge can enjoin executive power, then that judge is wielding executive power, seems to me

I'm no lawyer ymmv

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:21 PM (iTXRQ)

57 Why isn't this assclown locked up in one of Bernie's gulags?

Posted by: Fritz at January 15, 2020 02:21 PM (2Mnv1)

58 But yes, I agree the chief executive who is in charge of all the agencies has the power and authority to command action and punish inaction.

I'm president and you must do this!

Eh, federal rules stipulate that you gotta submit that in writin'. In triplicate, yeah. And we gots 30 days to respond. And I gotta talk to the union rep
*kicks cubicle wall
Hey union rep, you believe this guy?
Fuck him, we'll file a grievance.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:21 PM (dNzKv)

59 Something I've always wondered about: How easy is it for someone to destroy without a trace evidence that's supposed to be handed over? How often does "the smoking gun" disappear? We always say "the internet is forever," but when you're the government and own all parts of the chain of electronic evidence, is there a way to make sure things get erased completely? How often does the DoJ stall so that they have time to wipe their servers?
Yes, I know that destruction of evidence is illegal, but when has that stopped the Deep State from doing whatever it wants?

Posted by: pookysgirl at January 15, 2020 02:21 PM (XKZwp)

60 We all knew going in that any attempt to "clean the swamp" was going to be met with stonewalling and vicious fighting. Its just that for all his "this man fights" he doesn't fight very well against the DOJ nor establish his authority sufficiently over the various agencies.

He's got to roll in there and make sure everyone understands that he's the boss. Should have done that from day one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (KZzsI)

61 The behavior of DoJ under Trump has always baffled me.

It's like they are a whole separate government!

It's like they're saying "Fuck you! We are still assuming Obama is president and you can't do anything about it!"

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (so+oy)

62 It's like eating an elephant, I guess. One bite at a time.

I mean, busy pinning North Korea, forcing China to bend the knee in trade, reworking NAFTA, beating the Iranian mullahs, dealing with impeachment, the Awan case is probably not on his radar.

But it should dang sure be on Barr's.

Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (9VeU0)

63 The dog ate it.

Posted by: AUSA Chaddington Von Zepplinhaus IV at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (38wOn)

64 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

65 7 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.
Posted by: Garrett ( okay not garrett) at January 15, 2020 02:11 PM (qcIWB)

Trump is monitoring the situation. He does a lot of that.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (aqwWL)

66 The judge, Peter Messitte, reasoned that the EO would likely be found unconstitutional on a Federal preemption basis since its the Federal government that has the sole power to determine refugee matters.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qcIWB)

67 Judicial Watch -- doing the job that American Federal Investigators and Prosecutors won't do ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (W8FGt)

68 Moron horde demands speedy FireThemAll department.

Out of a cannon, into the Sun.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 15, 2020 02:23 PM (7faTs)

69 I think the problem is that if Trump pushes too hard there will be a literal coup. One misstep and suddenly impeachment happens because a few more cucks can claim their sacred honor demands it.

Posted by: WOPR at January 15, 2020 02:23 PM (wN3lD)

70 Hey union rep, you believe this guy?
Fuck him, we'll file a grievance.

"I'm transferring you to the Nome office to measure snowfall. With a stick. meanwhile we're digging into your work record to find cause for firing you without pension. Or you could quit and keep your pension up til now."
--Donnie Two Scoops

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:23 PM (KZzsI)

71 64 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?
Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

Burn things and then pillage and rape them?

Posted by: Tsar Vladimir I at January 15, 2020 02:24 PM (RD7QR)

72 The judge, Peter Messitte, reasoned that the EO would likely be found unconstitutional on a Federal preemption basis since its the Federal government that has the sole power to determine refugee matters.

That would not end the way he wants it to.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:24 PM (KZzsI)

73 >>If I had to guess, I would say he is waiting for the second term to begin the wholesale slaughter.

I've always thought Awan was connected to Hezbollah. The fake company looks an awful lot like the money laundering scams Hezbollah was running.

I don't think Trump is done with them yet.

Posted by: JackStraw at January 15, 2020 02:24 PM (ZLI7S)

74 What's the point of having just power if you refuse to use it?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:24 PM (aqwWL)

75 Apparently it isn't Barr.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (bd376)
Barr is there to make noises, slow walk the investigation, and cover stuff up.

Posted by: WOPR at January 15, 2020 02:24 PM (wN3lD)

76 >In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

does anybody know what legal reasoning the judge relied upon

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (iTXRQ)

77 Nationwide injunctions by any federal judge for any reason is not the way the system is supposed to function. You can't have 500 judges with individual veto authority over every aspect of the federal government.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (dNzKv)

78 Barr is there to make noises, slow walk the investigation, and cover stuff up.

"Uh oh, they're getting suspicious. I better make another speech and glower a lot. They love that"
--Barr

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (KZzsI)

79 Barr is just waiting for the proper time to pounce like a marshmallow!

Posted by: MAGA at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (bloh/)

80 does anybody know what legal reasoning the judge relied upon

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (iTXRQ)

The Good and Plenty clause.

Posted by: Count de Monet at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (q1Pj5)

81 64 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

Yes. He would have been impeached, convicted, and out of office for obstructing the Mueller investigation.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (hLRSq)

82
does anybody know what legal reasoning the judge relied upon
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (iTXRQ)

The same legal reasoning that allows a federal district judge to issue an injunction that applies outside of his district.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (dNzKv)

83 Noviy Tsar sockoff

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (RD7QR)

84 Thanks god for Judicial Watch, they want us to for get about this guy and we would if not for Tom Fitton.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (u6xw0)

85 >You can't have 500 judges with individual veto authority over every aspect of the federal government.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at

yet here we are

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (iTXRQ)

86 Nationwide injunctions by any federal judge for any reason is not the way the system is supposed to function. You can't have 500 judges with individual veto authority over every aspect of the federal government.
=======
Screw you Haolee

Posted by: Judge Ka meihameiha at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (NbzN0)

87 "Uh oh, they're getting suspicious. I better make another speech and glower a lot. They love that"
--Barr
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (KZzsI)

And give a little concert

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (U7k5w)

88 2nd term Trump will allow him to let his Democract freak flag fly through Ivanka and Jared. Fuck that shit. Do something now instead of all the monitoring bullshit and working work with Marxists.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (aqwWL)

89 Trump apparently never really got around declassifying all the stuff he said he was/would about the FISA stuff. And I guess Barr didn't either.

Pretty much every time you see a redaction in the IG report, you should be reminded of that.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (hdzef)

90 Trump should have ignored the various district court injunctions and asked that it be fast tracked to the USSC, the actual other branch of government. District judges are creatures of the legislature.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (7faTs)

91 Barr is there to make noises, slow walk the investigation, and cover stuff up.

Posted by: WOPR at January 15, 2020 02:24 PM (w

bUt DId yoU SeE hiS sPEecH

Posted by: Zero Prosecutions Zero Raids at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (NSFCQ)

92 I thought the President gave Barr the go ahead to release the goods on the coup that he has? Where the F' i s it?

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (6XlcD)

93 In the mean time a Federal a Judge has put an injunction on Trump's EO that allowed states to make the decision on whether to accept refugees or not.

This is the main flaw with giving judges the final say on things. There's no check or balance against this kind of action other than other judges. And that is not how our system is supposed to work.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:18 PM (KZzsI)

Devil's argument... But the Refugee Resettlement program was passed by Congress and the legal theory is that by allowing Governors to deny it happen in their states, the Executive branch is granting "veto" power of that provision of the law. (Even though the likelihood that *every* Governor would decline is remote).

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (RT6Hk)

94 also it would seem to me that state govts should be able to decide this issue internally

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (iTXRQ)

95 Yeah. And then the entire agency Trump is instructing to release documents goes on vacation, or home with the flu. Meanwhile the impeachment starts next week.
If trump gets too close to the target, what is to prevent the senate from turning on him?
Trump is fighting for not just the survival of the USA, but the survival of his family and himself.

Posted by: Drc at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (YdSkn)

96 64 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?
Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

I dont think the colander facemask and speedo look works for him.

Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (9VeU0)

97 This may be heresy, but before the stake and burning I have to wonder if Trump is not a little afraid of DOJ? Has to be some reason for his behavior. Okay, NOW pile up the faggots around me, and light 'em up.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (qhmX5)

98 66 The judge, Peter Messitte, reasoned that the EO would likely be found unconstitutional on a Federal preemption basis since its the Federal government that has the sole power to determine refugee matters.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qcIWB)

Oh, that's different. So the federal government has sole power here? Okay - new EO: No Refugees.

Thanks for clarifying the power relationship here.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (hLRSq)

99 He should don a death robe, grab a scythe, and go roam the halls of the executive branch firing people.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (Y274z)

100 64
I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

Surprise anal, slap a hot iron to it, then have a sammich?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (1CjJc)

101 I believe the word "contempt" describes the government's regard for Judicial Watch and the Court. Hopefully, the Judge uses the word too.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (NVYyb)

102
Barr is a con man.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (EsAyS)

103 Somebody explain this to me. Didn't the Obama administration do the the thing where their agencies intentionally got sued by a leftist group, punted the defense, and had the judge rule in favor of the leftist advocacy group that was pushing what they wanted to do in the first place?

So why can't Trump find some nonprofit that cares about secure borders to immediately sue him over every one of his executive orders by saying they're not going far enough, punt the defense, and then you have a judge already ruling in favor for how we want this to go?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (KUaJL)

104 The time of purification is at hand.

Posted by: the angel of death in a funny hat at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (7faTs)

105 92 I thought the President gave Barr the go ahead to release the goods on the coup that he has? Where the F' i s it?

Two weeks.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (dNzKv)

106 The same legal reasoning that allows a federal district judge to issue an injunction that applies outside of his district.

Yeah that's a serious concern as well. Judges just assuming federal control. We live in a time when judges are grossly, outrageously overstepping their power and congress refuses to step up to rein them in.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (KZzsI)

107 >64
I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

You mean sans pants?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (sjdRT)

108 I thought the President gave Barr the go ahead to release the goods on the coup that he has? Where the F' i s it?
Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2020 02:27 PM (6XlcD)

Are you talking about "declass"? If so, my understanding is that it would be info damaging to both sides... specifically to some associates of Trump.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (RT6Hk)

109 Wait, I've seen this one already. After a long drawn out legal battle, it turns out the records were lost or destroyed and no one is at fault.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (xfb67)

110 does anybody know what legal reasoning the judge relied upon
Posted by: DB

It's Wednesday?

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (bd376)

111 If trump gets too close to the target, what is to prevent the senate from turning on him

To quote an old song with some minor "adjustments" "2020 party over, out of time....

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (6XlcD)

112 DOJ sure likes to protect Washerwoman-Schultz's side piece.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (+CTUu)

113 Yeah that's a serious concern as well. Judges just assuming federal control. We live in a time when judges are grossly, outrageously overstepping their power and congress refuses to step up to rein them in.
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How's about I hit you in the head with a can of spam?

Posted by: Judge Ka meihameiha at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (v3l9s)

114 A shot of Valu-Rite and a quick pudding dip works for me.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (u6xw0)

115 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (1CjJc)

I wish that some Horde members had infiltrated the Deep State and were running below the radar to advise and encourage the President on tactics and strategy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (BiNEL)

116 So the judge is a racist.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (yL25O)

117 Meh, SCOTUS is part of the Deep State. They attend the Washington cocktail circuit and are more prone to respond to the musings of SJW'a and other malcontents rather than do their one job, to protect the Constitution.

I wouldn't wait on them to do anything but finger their bungeholes and sniff it's aroma.

For ten years they've abandoned The Second Amendment and I frankly fear any ruling they will make on it. All signals are they will restrict a citizens rights rather than protect them.

Well, unless it's so called "gay" rights. Then they will read between the lines and, oops, it was a right all along. How'd we miss that along with killing babies.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (3inwt)

118 >>>He should don a death robe, grab a scythe, and go roam the halls of the executive branch firing people.

Pennsylvania Avenue is a convenient length, between the Capital and the WH. Start the executions on a Monday morning (preferably in front of the FBI Building) and keep going until the understand. Maybe by Friday, you'll be done.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at January 15, 2020 02:31 PM (NVYyb)

119 Ace, you REALLY need to look up the Pendleton Act before writing something like this. Basically, it says that civil service employees cannot be fired "for political reasons".

Do you really think Trump could fire these clowns and not have an Obama judge say it was political? And what's your guarantee that Roberts would say differently?

Posted by: SDN at January 15, 2020 02:31 PM (X0ZXf)

120 I just hope and pray that his enemies don't go the Sic Semper Tyranus to rid themselves of their tormentor.
Posted by: Larry Vaughn at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (OsiPb)

He may be their tormenter, but it is they who are the tyrants. The only torment he inflicts is nothing more than restraining their unholy lust for power. They are addicts looking for another hit.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (J+mig)

121 So why can't Trump find some nonprofit that cares about secure borders to immediately sue him over every one of his executive orders by saying they're not going far enough, punt the defense, and then you have a judge already ruling in favor for how we want this to go?

That last part is the fly in the ointment: getting a judge who'd do so.

But the Refugee Resettlement program was passed by Congress and the legal theory is that by allowing Governors to deny it happen in their states, the Executive branch is granting "veto" power of that provision of the law

I have no doubt that will be the argument, but its flawed in several places. First, states are supposed to control what happens within their borders as long as its exclusive to their states. Who lives there seems a pretty obvious example of this. Granted, that's been enormously eroded, but it is a constitutional principle right from the beginning.

Second, assuming the federal government has absolute control over immigration policy does not end the way the open borders advocates prefer.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (KZzsI)

122 . Didn't the Obama administration do the the thing where their agencies intentionally got sued by a leftist group, punted the defense,

They did that a lot.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (dNzKv)

123 Tami, I did see the e-mail, thanks!

Posted by: kallisto at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (8zvUY)

124 116
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (1CjJc)

I wish that some Horde members had infiltrated the Deep State and
were running below the radar to advise and encourage the President on
tactics and strategy!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at January 15, 2020 02:30 PM (BiNEL)

I have a hard time believing that at least some in his inner circle do not at least lurk here.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (1CjJc)

125 People have short term memories, I guess. If you want to know why DOJ is still a cesspit, remember it was essentially immediately after Sessions took office, they clipped him and put Mueller in there to scour the place, looking for whatever he wanted. Basically, for the first couple years of Trump's administration, Mueller and Rosenberg and Comey were operating with impunity in the DOJ.

Trump has had to learn on the job, because the guy he thought was going to be in charge, was either inept, or in on the scam, or both.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (F3n4E)

126 Hawaiian judge just says it impacts tourism and issues injunction.

Then he retires to chambers to shag his clerks.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (Y274z)

127 Do you really think Trump could fire these clowns and not have an Obama judge say it was political? And what's your guarantee that Roberts would say differently?
Posted by: SDN at January 15, 2020 02:31 PM (X0ZXf)

Slow down bonnie laddie, nobody's being fired, and if so they'll never see an indictment.

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (U7k5w)

128 Not being fired for "political reasons" in un-Constitutional since we are a Republic.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (xfb67)

129 I don't think Ace mentioned firing anyone.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (u6xw0)

130 84 Thanks god for Judicial Watch, they want us to for get about this guy and we would if not for Tom Fitton.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 15, 2020 02:26 PM (u6xw0)

...

We still remember Loretta Lynch.

Posted by: TexasDan at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (yL25O)

131 Stringing it out as long as they can before they close up shop.

Posted by: Larry Vaughn at January 15, 2020 02:32 PM (OsiPb)

and loving those billable hours!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar knows that EDKH at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (BiNEL)

132 Are you talking about "declass"? If so, my understanding is that it would be info damaging to both sides... specifically to some associates of Trump.
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Let me explain this to you Trump.

I'll use the puppets.

You see in WAR sometimes the good guys get killed in action against the bad guys. However, if you want to win the war, you gotta be willing to take some friendly losses.

Posted by: Zombie George Patton at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (38wOn)

133 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

Yes. He would have been impeached, convicted, and out of office for obstructing the Mueller investigation.
Posted by: Mikey NTH

Then that puts to bed any thought about Trump unleashing hell in his second term.

He'll be impeached and convicted and out of office if he tries anything.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (bd376)

134 Explain why!?
Here's why!...
Because F#ck YOU, THATS WHY!

Posted by: DOJ at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (NmR1a)

135 Trump's yolo moment will be October/November 2020 that is when he will act. Win or lose, he has to act then.

Posted by: Drc at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (YdSkn)

136 67 Judicial Watch -- doing the job that American Federal Investigators and Prosecutors won't do ...
______________

Not to mention our "watchdog" media.

The only things they like to watch are their own hairy, fat asses in the mirror.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (k4dH2)

137 does anybody know what legal reasoning the judge relied upon
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:25 PM (iTXRQ)

Link to decision...

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/
726cc677-6312-477f-a085-6ba790e93f89/note/
6787c790-61b8-4416-a800-e5cb13324e66.pdf

(remove line breaks, obviously)

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (RT6Hk)

138 Stalling until the clock runs out.

Posted by: jsg at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (0AHn5)

139 They attend the Washington cocktail circuit and are more prone to respond to the musings of SJW'a and other malcontents rather than do their one job, to protect the Constitution.

That's Roberts' problem. Its not some ridiculous mythical blackmail over a son in his 20s. He just is too easily swayed by "the people that matter" in his decisions. He's too concerned about his Legacy and what his Court will be considered by historians in the future, so he's too easily manipulated by the left.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (KZzsI)

140 Trending now. Heh

#cnnisgarbage
Posted by: Ha at January 15, 2020 02:16 PM (NSFCQ)
**********
It's a beautiful sight to behold.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (wiXsO)

141 The brilliance of the fuckwads who really run our country is that they Gulliver Trump with a million threads to tie him down while he's busy trying to break Iran, keep the Norks in line and give US workers better jobs. I've been waiting for him to kick ass with the bureaucrats (domestic enemies) the way he does with our foreign enemies for a long time. Instead we get Wray at FBI, toughguy Barr at Justice and a hundred different Obama judges legislating away. Trying to think of some snappy line that will make me feel better... working on it...

Posted by: Joe-NAH of Krypton at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (VbLoi)

142 132 84 Thanks god for Judicial Watch, they want us to for get about this guy and we would if not for Tom Fitton

If you shop Amazon they have a specicil Amazon that allows you to donate to Charities.. It's called SmileAmazon.. Anyway i chose Judicial Watch.. Believe it or not it's one of their charities...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (6XlcD)

143 Sessions scammed Trump.

Why did Sessions want to give up a lazy do nothing Senate seat?
He could still be there taking long naps having long lunches doing nothing.

Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (Y274z)

144 >>99
He should don a death robe, grab a scythe, and go roam the halls of the executive branch firing people. Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2020 02:28 PM (Y274z)

1. Shaved body.
2. Body painted in crossword-puzzle dazzle camouflage. MAGA hat.

3. Bath salts.
4. McCulloch saw, the big one. No, not that one, the BIG one.

5. Covfefe.

Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (qXNVo)

145 135
Then that puts to bed any thought about Trump unleashing hell in his second term.

He'll be impeached and convicted and out of office if he tries anything.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (bd376)

You mean the why bother trying to do anything plan? Because all action is futile? Oh, standard GOP-e playbook then.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (qhmX5)

146 135 -

Basically, if Congress stays Democrat, and they take the Senate, yeah. They'll retry and convict him. No doubt about it.

Posted by: BurtTC at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (F3n4E)

147 Slow down bonnie laddie, nobody's being fired, and if so they'll never see an indictment.

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (U7k5w)

It is the guaranteed step increases and sweet retirement with superb medical coverage that makes the hard work worthwhile.

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (BiNEL)

148
Why did Sessions want to give up a lazy do nothing Senate seat?
He could still be there taking long naps having long lunches doing nothing

He's done his damage and is running for his old seat

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (6XlcD)

149 By the way, SCOTUS should do what people did at The First Battle of Bull Run. They should go down to Virginia and picnic, while the battle over the Second Amendment they sponsored with their ineptitude and indifference kicks off.

It will be "fun". Their will be fighting, death, mayhem and despotism. It will be nostalgic and stuff.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (3inwt)

150
A recurring characteristic of the Left in this country, is treating security as a complete joke, even when it could cost them an election.

The Pakistani Bros. on Capitol Hill.
The OPM Security Clearance Application Breach.
The DNC e-mail download.
John Podesta's e-mail download.
Hillary Clinton's toilet server.
Hillary Clinton's minions apparently hand-carrying info out of a SCIF.
Bubba Clinton releasing ballistic missile guidance and warhead design to China.

On and on. Maybe they see themselves as the slovenly unconventional achievers from the movie Stripes. It's all a joke to them.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (pqBrO)

151 He could still be there taking long naps having long lunches doing nothing.

He didn't do literally nothing, he got quite a bit done. The problem is that he did nothing about the core problems in the DOJ and what needed most to be done.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (KZzsI)

152 Let me explain this to you Trump.

I'll use the puppets.

You see in WAR sometimes the good guys get killed in action against the bad guys. However, if you want to win the war, you gotta be willing to take some friendly losses.
Posted by: Zombie George Patton at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (38wOn)

Even if it means making General Flynn look like a bad guy?

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 15, 2020 02:37 PM (RT6Hk)

153 145 Sessions scammed Trump.

Why did Sessions want to give up a lazy do nothing Senate seat?
He could still be there taking long naps having long lunches doing nothing.
Posted by: torabora at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (Y274z)

You don't think he was going to appoint Rosenstein otherwise, do you?

Posted by: Snoreregard, Roddy's white hatted sock at January 15, 2020 02:37 PM (U7k5w)

154 It is the guaranteed step increases and sweet retirement with superb medical coverage that makes the hard work worthwhile.
=====
I took my family skiing in Utah over the Christmas break.

Posted by: Andy McCabe at January 15, 2020 02:37 PM (NbzN0)

155 Holding my breath until justice is restored...

Posted by: The Mummy at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (q5XnN)

156 A recurring characteristic of the Left in this country, is treating security as a complete joke, even when it could cost them an election.

The Pakistani Bros. on Capitol Hill.
The OPM Security Clearance Application Breach.
The DNC e-mail download.
John Podesta's e-mail download.
Hillary Clinton's toilet server.
Hillary Clinton's minions apparently hand-carrying info out of a SCIF.
Bubba Clinton releasing ballistic missile guidance and warhead design to China.

On and on. Maybe they see themselves as the slovenly unconventional achievers from the movie Stripes. It's all a joke to them.

Benghazi waves.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (Boy/L)

157 Sessions scammed Trump.
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Barr probably scammed Trump too. He wrote an op ed criticizing mueller a few months before sessions left. That gave Barr the bonafides to appear to support Trump. In truth, he's probably in on the whole mess

Posted by: Drc at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (YdSkn)

158 It is a coincidence that the first person to touch the Pakistani Muslim Awan's case is a Hindu judge?

Posted by: destraad at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (deybB)

159 154 It is the guaranteed step increases and sweet retirement with superb medical coverage that makes the hard work worthwhile.
=====
I took my family skiing in Utah over the Christmas break.
Posted by: Andy McCabe at January 15, 2020 02:37 PM (NbzN0)

And all it requires is being a Brazen ShitWeasel.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (qhmX5)

160 It's a beautiful sight to behold.

Posted by: redridinghood at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (wiXsO)

Must be Bernie's people but we should help with it.

Posted by: Ha at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (NSFCQ)

161
I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. Is. Up. With. This?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (zBaqJ)

162 Let me explain this to you Trump.

I'll use the puppets.

You see in WAR sometimes the good guys get killed in action against the bad guys. However, if you want to win the war, you gotta be willing to take some friendly losses.
Posted by: Zombie George Patton at January 15, 2020 02:33 PM (38wOn)

Even if it means making General Flynn look like a bad guy?
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What does Trump have behind door #1 #2 and #3

. . .

a full pardon

Posted by: its not like there isn't a solution at January 15, 2020 02:39 PM (yXnte)

163 Winning back the House.
Picking up two or or three Senate seats.
Replacing RBG
Let us pray!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2020 02:39 PM (HNGw7)

164 It is the guaranteed step increases and sweet retirement with superb medical coverage that makes the hard work worthwhile.
Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (BiNEL)

Would you like to hear Amazing Grace or Bonnie Ann?

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:39 PM (U7k5w)

165 The more a person makes threats and thumps their chest the least likely they are to actually do shit.... real difficult shit. It's been 4 years. People are legit tired of so much talk and promises and bragging and not doing shit to punish lawbreakers and criminals plus moving the goalposts on his word about immigration.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:40 PM (aqwWL)

166 161
I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. Is. Up. With. This?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (zBaqJ)

Ah, but that's the Horde Way, JJ. You are not using Nuance.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:40 PM (qhmX5)

167 It is the guaranteed step increases and sweet retirement with superb medical coverage that makes the hard work worthwhile.
=====
I took my family skiing in Utah over the Christmas break.
Posted by: Andy McCabe at January 15, 2020 02:37 PM (NbzN0)

And all it requires is being a Brazen ShitWeasel.
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HEY! that right there is just insulting

to Brazen ShitWeasel's

I am invertebrate

Posted by: Andy McCabe at January 15, 2020 02:40 PM (v3l9s)

168 >>What does Trump have behind door #1 #2 and #3

It could be like 'The Joker's Wild" game show:

"chainsaw...CHAINsaw...CHAINSAW!!!"

Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 02:41 PM (qXNVo)

169

Because Barr is the one telling them not to release.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 02:41 PM (EsAyS)

170 Posted by: J.J. Sefton

JJ, and I say this with tears in my eyes, that is not who we are!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at January 15, 2020 02:41 PM (BiNEL)

171 142 132 84 Thanks god for Judicial Watch, they want us to for get about this guy and we would if not for Tom Fitton

If you shop Amazon they have a specicil Amazon that allows you to donate to Charities.. It's called SmileAmazon.. Anyway i chose Judicial Watch.. Believe it or not it's one of their charities...

Thanks Donna I wasn't aware of that. There is a few charities I would like to anonymously donate to.

Posted by: dananjcon at January 15, 2020 02:41 PM (u6xw0)

172 141 The brilliance of the fuckwads who really run our country is that they Gulliver Trump with a million threads to tie him down while he's busy trying to break Iran, keep the Norks in line and give US workers better jobs. I've been waiting for him to kick ass with the bureaucrats (domestic enemies) the way he does with our foreign enemies for a long time. Instead we get Wray at FBI, toughguy Barr at Justice and a hundred different Obama judges legislating away. Trying to think of some snappy line that will make me feel better... working on it...
Posted by: Joe-NAH of Krypton at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (VbLoi)

The bureaucracy protects itself, just like any living entity. It's not like they serve the people or something. I'm getting more and more serious when I say that it's going to be necessary to engage in acts of violence to bring them to heal.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at January 15, 2020 02:41 PM (RD7QR)

173 14 If that guy wasn't on Pakistani ISI payroll, I will eat both of my size 10 Allen Edmonds wingtips live on national television.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at January 15, 2020 02:13 PM (Boy/L)

Yup, and that's what just happened.

Right has been telling DOJ for a couple years this guy was a spy.

They kept pooh pooh'n the ides.

Judicial Watch MADE them go get records, and, oh, shit, records show guy is a spy.

Thus, sealed. Under investigation suddenly, although nothing will ever happen to the guy.

Posted by: Don Q at January 15, 2020 02:42 PM (NgKpN)

174 >>158
It is a coincidence that the first person to touch the Pakistani Muslim Awan's case

It puts the bacon on its skin.

Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 02:42 PM (qXNVo)

175 166 161
I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. Is. Up. With. This?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (zBaqJ)

Ah, but that's the Horde Way, JJ. You are not using Nuance.
Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:40 PM (qhmX5)

What nuance? He's the boss, he says jump, the fucking stooge says how high or he gets shit-canned.

Seriously, what the hell am I fucking missing here?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2020 02:42 PM (zBaqJ)

176 I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building

Yeah, the fact that this is not (as far as we know) happening demonstrates that, at the very least, Barr is too trusting of the system and the people working under him. That he does not, as Ace put it a while back, know what day it is.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 02:42 PM (KZzsI)

177 I know the Deep State subverts him. But ultimately, the president has all the power of the Deep State and then some. He can just step into any office and declare that he'll be making all the decisions for the next several hours.
++++++++++++++
This would work. Take his Marine guard with him to make the point.

I wouldn't mind seeing him forcibly recess Congress after he is acquitted and making some sweeping recess changes - including the elimination of entire departments. He can take over for an hour or a day and move the ball, but so very many things need to be completely gutted if there's any hope of moving forward well. This obstructionist nonsense of the Senate never recessing needs to end.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:42 PM (I2dne)

178 Then that puts to bed any thought about Trump unleashing hell in his second term.

He'll be impeached and convicted and out of office if he tries anything.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 02:34 PM (bd376)

No, it puts to bed doing things in an impulsive, rage-fueled, Moron Horde fashion instead of a carefully thought-out and done at the correct time fashion. Like how he slipped by the Mueller investigation.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (hLRSq)

179 well, the decision states that America is obligated to receive refugees on account of some UN treaty we signed; also, not accepting refugees hurts their feelings (does them irreparable harm) and the judge also believes that the President can't do stuff unless Congress expressly passes legislation to such effect.

There is also every chance I am not reading this correctly

Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (iTXRQ)

180 Can we get Trump to do a Putin?

He just had his WHOLE DAMN Government resign.

Posted by: Don Q at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (NgKpN)

181 Would you like to hear Amazing Grace or Bonnie Ann?

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:39 PM (U7k5w)

"Scots Wha' Ha'e Wi' Wallace Bled: is pretty catchy on the pipes!

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (BiNEL)

182 heal.

heel

Posted by: I'd prefer they not heal at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (aoYLZ)

183 I don't trust Barr. Too talky. Sorry. Let your actions do the talking. I don't need Sean Hannity as head of DOJ. I don't need anyone to get me fired up. Fucking arrest people, try them, and do what you fucking will. I'll pop the corn.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (MUs8j)

184 Bacon is good.

Posted by: USMC 8541 at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (NmR1a)

185 Choose a target, Wray for example, focus, and destroy him personally and financially. Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (kfuBv)

186 Heal is one of those words that never looks right to me.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 02:44 PM (MUs8j)

187 Heel. I don't want them to heal, except in the sense that they heal from their wounds.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at January 15, 2020 02:44 PM (RD7QR)

188 So we have confirmed at least one drunk voted for Trump's impeachment. AZ Dem Rep Kirkpatrick taking leave of absence to attend rehab for alcoholism. ( to be fair I snark because that's what we do but alcoholism is non-partisan)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:44 PM (qcIWB)

189 Creepy Porn Lawyer is in prison! See progress! /s

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:44 PM (aqwWL)

190 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

You mean sans pants?

Posted by: Muad'dib at January 15, 2020 02:29 PM (sjdRT)

Crossbows vs Longbows.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 15, 2020 02:45 PM (88+cf)

191 Roberts is an effeminate coward who his more concerned with his own reflection, than the strength of his convictions. If there is a weasel way to express his opinion without actually directly asserting a position, he's down for it. I am so tired of people at the Federalist Society covering for him and telling us he's playing three dimensional legal chess, not doinking us in the squeakhole.

Nah, that's not a reaming, it's probably gas.

*makes jerking motion with hand*

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:45 PM (3inwt)

192 Another option would be my grand plan if I ever became president. Trump can use it free-of-charge - I demand no royalties and make no claims.

Stencil a grid onto the oval office wall - a big part of it. In each grid, write in a federal building somewhere in the country. Make every Tuesday, "Federal Building Tuesday." At 10:00 AM ET, throw a dart at the grid. Wherever it sticks, that federal building is closed. Everyone in it is immediately laid off. All physical plant is auctioned off within 60 days.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:45 PM (I2dne)

193 What. The. Actual. Fuck. Is. Up. With. This?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (zBaqJ)

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Well, you see, it is complicated.../s

Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:45 PM (5NMZN)

194 He'll
Heal
Hill
It's all Greek to me

Posted by: Zorba at January 15, 2020 02:45 PM (q5XnN)

195 No, it puts to bed doing things in an impulsive, rage-fueled, Moron Horde fashion instead of a carefully thought-out and done at the correct time fashion. Like how he slipped by the Mueller investigation.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Brighten Your Gloom with Doom Polish from The Outrage Outlet! at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (hLRSq)

And the correct approach to Awan, McCabe, Comey, Uranium One, the Clinton's Foundation, slow and steady and if the clock runs out, so be it! Maybe I'll appoint Huber to investigate this Awan business, that's a man who know how to lose a file or two.

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:46 PM (U7k5w)

196
If I had to guess, I would say he is waiting for the second term to begin the wholesale slaughter.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable

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I wish I could do overstrikes on this system, because I would write the list of things we're waiting for, all of them crossed out, with "Trump's second term" now at the bottom of the list (waiting to be crossed out).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 02:46 PM (M9ntN)

197 169

Because Barr is the one telling them not to release.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 02:41 PM (EsAyS)

Yup, things like this, and the Flynn crap, make me wonder whose side Barr is on.

And I'm coming to the conclusion that he is on the side of the DOJ. Not ours. Not Law and Order. Not Trump's.

Posted by: Don Q at January 15, 2020 02:46 PM (NgKpN)

198 I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. Is. Up. With. This?

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at January 15, 2020 02:38 PM (zBaqJ)
++++++++++++
Barr is a company man. I think abhors what has happened but he doesn't want to take an ax to the thing, either. I think Barr wants to try to salvage it.

It can't be salvaged. It needs the ax. Barr, however, is not an ax-man.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:46 PM (I2dne)

199 >>*makes jerking motion with hand* Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:45 PM (3inwt)

It puts the lotion on...
Oh.
Nevermind. Carry on.

Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 02:46 PM (QgtlX)

200 I've often thought that one day a week or whatever, a President's time might be usefully spent sitting at a desk at some Dept/Agency HQ and just bringing in employees at random to ask, "So, what is it you would say you do around here?"

Fire (or at least try to) the ones that don't have a good answer. If they have a good answer, ask about things that should be done at the Dept/Agency.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (hdzef)

201 What time is lunch?

Posted by: William Barr at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (q5XnN)

202
I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office with a bottle of booze, a shot glass, a pistol, & one round and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building

FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (cuot+)

203 Dan Bongino is doing a great job on his podcast today explaining how and why Gen. Mike Flynn was set up by the Obama Admin, beginning back in 2014.

Spoiler Alert: Because Flynn knew about the abuses rampant in our Intel agencies, and was a vocal opponent of the Iran Nuke Deal.

Posted by: Sharkman at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (MUVaZ)

204 179 well, the decision states that America is obligated to receive refugees on account of some UN treaty we signed; also, not accepting refugees hurts their feelings (does them irreparable harm) and the judge also believes that the President can't do stuff unless Congress expressly passes legislation to such effect.

There is also every chance I am not reading this correctly
Posted by: DB at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (iTXRQ

But not South African refugees. Really makes you think

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (aqwWL)

205 If I'm AG Barr, it would be pretty clear who f'd up. They'd be walking around with a bagpipe sticking out of their ass.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (3inwt)

206 "Scots Wha' Ha'e Wi' Wallace Bled: is pretty catchy on the pipes!
Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:43 PM (BiNEL)

Your wish is my command, lassie. Let me play "the Bee in the Knickers", too

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (U7k5w)

207
the fact that this is not (as far as we know) happening demonstrates that, at the very least, Barr is too trusting of the system and the people working under him. That he does not, as Ace put it a while back, know what day it is.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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Like Andy McCarthy before he was forcibly enlightened (thus attaining the state we unwashed masses were in all along).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 02:48 PM (M9ntN)

208 203 Dan Bongino is doing a great job on his podcast today explaining how and why Gen. Mike Flynn was set up by the Obama Admin, beginning back in 2014.

Spoiler Alert: Because Flynn knew about the abuses rampant in our Intel agencies, and was a vocal opponent of the Iran Nuke Deal.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (MUVaZ)

Does he explain Pence's crybaby fit over Flynn "lying" to him making Trumo fire him. Remember that? It did get the ball rolling.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (aqwWL)

209 So we have confirmed at least one drunk voted for Trump's impeachment. AZ Dem Rep Kirkpatrick taking leave of absence to attend rehab for alcoholism. ( to be fair I snark because that's what we do but alcoholism is non-partisan)

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:44 PM (qcIWB)

Little bish.

Drank his ass under the table.

Posted by: Pelosi at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (NSFCQ)

210 He'll heal heels. 50 words and the Horde only sees the grammatical error.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (RD7QR)

211 And the correct approach to Awan, McCabe, Comey, Uranium One, the Clinton's Foundation, slow and steady and if the clock runs out, so be it! Maybe I'll appoint Huber to investigate this Awan business, that's a man who know how to lose a file or two.

Posted by: Billy plays Bagpipes at January 15, 2020 02:46 PM (U7k5w)

I'm so glad the "right" people established those nice (short) statute of limitations timelines!

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (BiNEL)

212 203 Dan Bongino is doing a great job on his podcast today explaining how and why Gen. Mike Flynn was set up by the Obama Admin, beginning back in 2014.

Spoiler Alert: Because Flynn knew about the abuses rampant in our Intel agencies, and was a vocal opponent of the Iran Nuke Deal.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (MUVaZ)

Yup, Flynn knew all about the Deep State, but was not part of it.

He had to go.

Posted by: Don Q at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (NgKpN)

213 207
the fact that this is not (as far as we know) happening demonstrates that, at the very least, Barr is too trusting of the system and the people working under him. That he does not, as Ace put it a while back, know what day it is.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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Like Andy McCarthy before he was forcibly enlightened (thus attaining the state we unwashed masses were in all along).

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 02:48 PM (M9ntN)

I don't necessarily blame him. In group bias is a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:50 PM (9PapW)

214 a carefully thought-out and done at the correct time fashion.

You'd expect a somewhat tech-savvy bunch to understand Inherently Complex.

Or that Chestertons fence can scale out to a herd of cats balled up in an entire cities worth of blinds by 200+ years of DC'ing.

Posted by: DaveA at January 15, 2020 02:50 PM (FhXTo)

215
He's too concerned about his Legacy and what his Court will be considered by historians in the future, so he's too easily manipulated by the left.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

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ironically, he might shine a little brighter in the history books if he'd fvcking DO SOMETHING.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (M9ntN)

216 OK, fuck it then. fire a missile up Awan's ass.

Posted by: x at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (nFwvY)

217 208 203 Dan Bongino is doing a great job on his podcast today explaining how and why Gen. Mike Flynn was set up by the Obama Admin, beginning back in 2014.

Spoiler Alert: Because Flynn knew about the abuses rampant in our Intel agencies, and was a vocal opponent of the Iran Nuke Deal.
Posted by: Sharkman at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (MUVaZ)

Does he explain Pence's crybaby fit over Flynn "lying" to him making Trumo fire him. Remember that? It did get the ball rolling.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (aqwWL)

I thought the Pence thing was an excuse and Flynn was simply being thrown under the bus to avoid media furor.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (9PapW)

218 I've often thought that one day a week or whatever, a President's time might be usefully spent sitting at a desk at some Dept/Agency HQ and just bringing in employees at random to ask, "So, what is it you would say you do around here?"

Fire (or at least try to) the ones that don't have a good answer. If they have a good answer, ask about things that should be done at the Dept/Agency.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at January 15, 2020 02:47 PM (hdzef)
++++++++++++++++
Thinking about this, I don't that Trump is the right person. You should have a hard-nosed, straight-laced, deeply knowledgeable and incredibly contrarian ultra-bureaucrat for this.

Mulvaney. Have Mulvaney do this.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (I2dne)

219 Does he explain Pence's crybaby fit over Flynn "lying" to him making Trumo fire him. Remember that? It did get the ball rolling.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (aqwWL)

Do we have actual proof of that? Did Pence say that?

Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2020 02:52 PM (CqE5x)

220
I don't necessarily blame him. In group bias is a hell of a drug.
Posted by: Someguy

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He should know that. Everyone who gets into a group should know that and take other drugs to counter it.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 02:52 PM (M9ntN)

221 210
He'll heal heels. 50 words and the Horde only sees the grammatical error.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (RD7QR)

50 words, and the Horde only sees the grammatical error.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (1CjJc)

222 JFK did stuff like that. Was regularly calling deep into the bureaucracy to chat with managers and trying to understand why something was effed up.

Posted by: Diogenes at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (5v15w)

223 Not trusting the sudden shift to wait till next term for Trump to get things done.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (aqwWL)

224 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (Zz0t1)

225 Okay, I'll wait for DC to get fixed. Nothing else to do but wait anyway.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (qhmX5)

226 Drank his ass under the table.
Posted by: Pelosi at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (NSFCQ)

It's a she.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (qcIWB)

227 The country has more important things to worry about. Let's get on with the country's business.

Posted by: Debbie Wat'shername Schultz at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (zg/4X)

228 If you shop Amazon they have a specicil Amazon that
allows you to donate to Charities.. It's called SmileAmazon.. Anyway i
chose Judicial Watch.. Believe it or not it's one of their charities...

Posted by: It's me donna at January 15, 2020 02:35 PM (6XlcD)

_________

Thanks! My wife and I do this. I got the idea some months ago either here (maybe from you) or over at CTH.

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (Ga2pu)

229 Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (1CjJc)

Who let this guy back in? Was there a vote?

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (MUs8j)

230 I'm actually strangely looking forward to the day I can post that Michael Avanatti DID, in fact, kill himself.

Posted by: Sponge at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

231 In group bias is a hell of a drug.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:50 PM (9PapW)

Unless you are a Deep State insider, it is really hard to comprehend that all those people you have worked with on a daily basis for years, are actually corrupt, devious, perfidious scum in their black hearts!

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (BiNEL)

232 Didn't Awan steal back to Pakistan? Maybe we can get him to buy a home in Abbottabad.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (3inwt)

233 Ummm... Flynn is suspected of engaging in a conspiracy with the Turks to kidnap a political opponent of Erdogan exiled in the U.S. to get him back to Turkey to be executed.

He's no boy scout. And is swampy as all the rest.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (RT6Hk)

234 In group bias is a hell of a drug.

----------------------------

I heard Coca leaf counteracts that.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (xfb67)

235 What's bad is you click on to AoS, see this name "Awan" and the headline and can't remember who the f**k it is because there's so much corrupt shit it's hard to keep track now. This shit scares the hell out of me, if Trump doesn't clean this shit up and bring people to justice....... well we know it's game over when he leaves office. We're done.

Posted by: JROD at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (bipwv)

236 219 Does he explain Pence's crybaby fit over Flynn "lying" to him making Trumo fire him. Remember that? It did get the ball rolling.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (aqwWL)

Do we have actual proof of that? Did Pence say that?
Posted by: JoeF. at January 15, 2020 02:52 PM (CqE5x)

Yes. That's why Flynn was fired was because Pence matched in throwing a fit claiming Flynn lied to him. Trump got mad and fired Flynn. Then the Feds pounced. You don't remember this?

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (aqwWL)

237 Not trusting the sudden shift to wait till next term for Trump to get things done.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:53 PM (aqwWL)
++++++++++++++
It's a blind gamble, and not one I will take. I think it doesn't get fixed and that Trump can't fix it. I think that if Trump did what Ace is describing, they would ignore him. If he fired them, they'd be right back at that desk within six hours on a technicality. It's broken and it can't be fixed.

I still want Trump back in for two reasons:
1) Small victories are good, and the continuous dick-punching he gives to people who suck is nice to see.
2) It is a stay of execution. I wouldn't mind a little bit more time before things get sporty.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (I2dne)

238 "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" - D.J. Trump

Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (5NMZN)

239 I thought the Pence thing was an excuse and Flynn was simply being thrown under the bus to avoid media furor.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (9PapW)

I think that was an early own-goal, before Trump had acclimated to the office and the treachery of political opposition and the deep state. I think he learned his lesson and proved it with Kavanaugh.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (1CjJc)

240 230 I'm actually strangely looking forward to the day I can post that Michael Avanatti DID, in fact, kill himself.
Posted by: Sponge at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (Zz0t1)

It moved.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (MUs8j)

241 Didn't the entire Awan family skip the country?

We can't do DICK to them.

Democrats getting away with crime after crime after crime after crime.

All at the expense of the AMERICAN CITIZEN.

We're all fucked.

Posted by: Sponge at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (Zz0t1)

242
235 What's bad is you click on to AoS, see this name "Awan" and the headline and can't remember who the f**k it is because there's so much corrupt shit it's hard to keep track now. This shit scares the hell out of me, if Trump doesn't clean this shit up and bring people to justice....... well we know it's game over when he leaves office. We're done.
Posted by: JROD at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (bipwv)

Cloward-Piven

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (aqwWL)

243 You're nuts. Get help. LT GEN Flynn did nothing of the sort.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (3inwt)

244 Didn't Awan steal back to Pakistan? Maybe we can get him to buy a home in Abbottabad.
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*gently weeps*

Posted by: Debbie Wat'shername Schultz at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (MtBgd)

245 233 Ummm... Flynn is suspected of engaging in a conspiracy with the Turks to kidnap a political opponent of Erdogan exiled in the U.S. to get him back to Turkey to be executed.

Posted by: Serious Cat at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (RT6Hk)

Then why was he investigated on totally unrelated nonsense?

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (9PapW)

246 Flynn is an Erdogan guy so my sympathy for him goes as far as him being pursued by my enemies.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:57 PM (qcIWB)

247 Didn't the entire Awan family skip the country?

We can't do DICK to them.
=========
*looks wistfully off into the distance*

Posted by: Debbie Wat'shername Schultz at January 15, 2020 02:57 PM (MtBgd)

248 Trump does a lot of good things, and I appreciate that. But, " fixing Washington" ain't gonna happen. The Swamp won't be drained. But at least he pointed out that there's one helluva swamp.

Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:57 PM (qhmX5)

249 238 "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" - D.J. Trump
Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (5NMZN)

Flynn didnt lie to the FBI. Pence is a Deep State Globalist cuck.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:57 PM (aqwWL)

250
Mulvaney. Have Mulvaney do this.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne)

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Yes. The Executioner. I can hear Trump after the mob gathers to protest the first round.

"Well Mulvaney's a good guy and I have total trust in him, I've heard great things about his work from everyone who ever had to go before those terrible, terrible agencies, government agencies, you know they're full of very very inefficient people, people who have been in there for years and done absolutely nothing, so we're okay with his work, whatever he's doing, and they say it should have happened years ago and it's finally happening."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (M9ntN)

251 You're nuts. Get help. LT GEN Flynn did nothing of the sort.

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (3inwt)

This is AoS, you have to be more specific!

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (BiNEL)

252 So, if JackStraw is right that this guy is connected to Hezbollah, that could be the way that at least some in Congress got paid by Iran, no?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (zZbCU)

253 We can't do DICK to them.

from the aytollah's mouth to salami's ears.

Posted by: x at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (nFwvY)

254 Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (aqwWL)

Flynn did lie to him.

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (qcIWB)

255 Who let this guy back in? Was there a vote?

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 02:54 PM (MUs8j)

What? I brought enough commas for everyone.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (1CjJc)

256 Why is lying to the FBI even a crime?

The FBI lies all the time and nothing happens to them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (xfb67)

257 "Didn't the entire Awan family skip the country?

We can't do DICK to them."

A war al-Awlaki called. He says "hey".

Posted by: Hesco Gypsy, Throwing rocks from a thousand yards at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (3inwt)

258 Flynn didnt lie to the FBI.
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You so much as say "Hello" to an FBI agent, you are at risk.

Not much of an exaggeration.

Posted by: simplemind at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (2H6SI)

259 245 Then why was he investigated on totally unrelated nonsense?
Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (9PapW)

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Because that's how the federal government persecutes everyone?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (zZbCU)

260 Ummm... Flynn is suspected of engaging in a conspiracy with the Turks to
kidnap a political opponent of Erdogan exiled in the U.S. to get him
back to Turkey to be executed.
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Muhammed Fethullah Gulen?

Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (5NMZN)

261 >>> 218 Thinking about this, I don't that Trump is the right person. You should have a hard-nosed, straight-laced, deeply knowledgeable and incredibly contrarian ultra-bureaucrat for this.

Mulvaney. Have Mulvaney do this.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (I2dne)

Yep. Probably better. Just someone with sufficient authority.

I wouldn't mind mixing in the dart board office closing scheme either. But probably make it just once a year ... could be the Superbowl Halftime show each year.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (hdzef)

262 252 So, if JackStraw is right that this guy is connected to Hezbollah, that could be the way that at least some in Congress got paid by Iran, no?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (zZbCU)

Easily.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (Kpl3J)

263 When Flynn the Eskimo gets here, everybody's gonna wanna dose.

Posted by: Zod at January 15, 2020 03:00 PM (qXNVo)

264 2) It is a stay of execution. I wouldn't mind a little bit more time before things get sporty.
Posted by: Joe Mannix

I'm 57. If things are going to get sporty, and they will, I'd much rather them get sporty sooner rather than later.

I don't want to be 67 and getting a "draft notice", so to speak.

Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 03:00 PM (bd376)

265 Been listening to some of Prager going over the Democrats debate.
What a buch of lying bastards and bitches.

Posted by: Skip at January 15, 2020 03:00 PM (ZCEU2)

266 261 >>> 218 Thinking about this, I don't that Trump is the right person. You should have a hard-nosed, straight-laced, deeply knowledgeable and incredibly contrarian ultra-bureaucrat for this.

Mulvaney. Have Mulvaney do this.
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 02:51 PM (I2dne)

Yep. Probably better. Just someone with sufficient authority.

And Coach Orgeron's voice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 03:00 PM (Kpl3J)

267 Why is lying to the FBI even a crime?
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I know, right?

That said, ha, it used to be awfully convenient to be able to throw anyone in jail whenever we wanted.

Posted by: Andy McCabe at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (SxKHF)

268 I have a feeling that Trump's team is going to have a great sport of ripping the fascists Nutzy Palsi named as the prosecutors for the Impeachment Trial - most of them were calling for impeachment before Trump was even inaugurated.

They're clearly not even going to try to win-over some of the GOPe squishes - this is swinging for the cheap seats for their base and nothing more.

Posted by: DocJ at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (DU2N9)

269 Why is lying to the FBI even a crime?

The FBI lies all the time and nothing happens to them.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (xfb67)

You obviously don't understand how Deep State Bureaucracies work in unison to crush the kulaks!

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (BiNEL)

270

I have no doubt that will be the argument, but its flawed in several places. First, states are supposed to control what happens within their borders as long as its exclusive to their states. Who lives there seems a pretty obvious example of this. Granted, that's been enormously eroded, but it is a constitutional principle right from the beginning.

Second, assuming the federal government has absolute control over immigration policy does not end the way the open borders advocates prefer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor

I love you morons, but sometimes you live up to the name.

CT, as for your points, #1 Plenty of things "within a state's borders" are controlled by the federal government. Where federal law preempts the field, a state can do nothing on its own even within its borders. See: Maritime or Bankruptcy Law.

#2 Congress makes laws, the executive executes those laws. If Congress says: "The States shall take a proportionate share of refugees," then boy howdy, there they go! What you are conflating is the executive's ability to set policy in foreign relations with Congress' plenary (absolute) authority to decide what the policy of the nation is with respect to federal matters. If Congress declares war, the President cannot immediately surrender and draft a peace treaty.

That is why Andrew Johnson was impeached, for specifically defying an Act of Congress passed over a veto.

With respect to this program, it is a question of delegation. If Congress in an enacted law (signed by a president, not necessarily this one) has apportioned refugees in certain areas, then the President cannot then go and re-allocate based on the wishes of some governors. It just doesn't work like that.

Posted by: imp at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (SFOr6)

271
150

A recurring characteristic of the Left in this country, is treating
security as a complete joke, even when it could cost them an election.

The Pakistani Bros. on Capitol Hill.

The OPM Security Clearance Application Breach.

The DNC e-mail download.

John Podesta's e-mail download.

Hillary Clinton's toilet server.

Hillary Clinton's minions apparently hand-carrying info out of a SCIF.

Bubba Clinton releasing ballistic missile guidance and warhead design to China.

On and on. Maybe they see themselves as the slovenly unconventional achievers from the movie Stripes. It's all a joke to them.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at January 15, 2020 02:36 PM (pqBrO)

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Yep, and you can throw in Obama guaranteeing that Iran can have nukes along with billions to fund terrorism -- and who can forget Sandy Burglar's cartoonish thefts from the National Archives?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (cLvUs)

272 249 238 "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" - D.J. Trump
Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (5NMZN)

Flynn didnt lie to the FBI. Pence is a Deep State Globalist cuck.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:57 PM (aqwWL)

Why're you assuming Pence really cared and had some personal goal of removing Flynn? Doesn't seem like Pence ever really gets involved with the personnel scuffle that has been going on.

It has all the appearance of a "get rid of cabinet member to get rid of problem" maneuver with corresponding excuses.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (9PapW)

273 I don't want to be 67 and getting a "draft notice", so to speak.
Posted by: rickb223 at January 15, 2020 03:00 PM (bd376)

On the other hand, we wouldn't have to worry about wasting the Best Years of our Lives.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (Kpl3J)

274 268
They're clearly not even going to try to win-over some of the GOPe squishes - this is swinging for the cheap seats for their base and nothing more.
Posted by: DocJ at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (DU2N9)

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How could she give it to anyone other that Schiff?

Not saying you're wrong, but I just couldn't imagine anyone else getting the call.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (zZbCU)

275 gulen helped turn turkey into a prison, through the networks he provided to Erdogan,

Posted by: gaius martius at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (hMlTh)

276 I just wish they would stop taking in Refugees, period. That and a high priority deportation process for all the illegals that have Drivers Licenses now, go get them.

Posted by: RobinKay at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (uaYXs)

277 So, if JackStraw is right that this guy is connected to Hezbollah, that could be the way that at least some in Congress got paid by Iran, no?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (zZbCU)

Easily.
====
Money?!!

Money?!!

You think I cared about the money!?!?!

Posted by: Debbie Wat'shername Schultz at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (TEmQ1)

278 He'll heal heels. Fifty 50 words and the Horde only sees the grammatical error.

Posted by: joncelli, bludgeoning with a pouncing seize at January 15, 2020 02:49 PM (RD7QR)

Fixed. Not technical.

Posted by: Roland THTG at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (88+cf)

279 This Awan guy has skipped town? Can't we drone his ass?

Posted by: IC at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (a0IVu)

280 Meanwhile on the East end of Arkansas, in the Delta, the Beaujoulais brothers are shaking their heads, and exclaiming "Can yall believe, that prezdent we gots has made the chinks buy rice fromus".

Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (C1Lsn)

281 254 Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (aqwWL)

Flynn did lie to him.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (qcIWB)

Pence fucking said Flynn lied to him and the FBI. He ran to Trump.

238 "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" - D.J. Trump
Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (5NMZN)

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (aqwWL)

282 I never got a good vibe from Flynn but people should roast for what's been done to him.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (MUs8j)

283 235 What's bad is you click on to AoS, see this name "Awan" and the headline and can't remember who the f**k it is because there's so much corrupt shit it's hard to keep track now. This shit scares the hell out of me, if Trump doesn't clean this shit up and bring people to justice....... well we know it's game over when he leaves office. We're done.
Posted by: JROD at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (bipwv)

Then, we're done.

Ciamarella was at the NSC, and moved to the CIA
Dana Boente resigned from the AAG post at DOJ, and hopped over to the FBI (he signed the FISA app, too)

Taint is a resume enhancer

And nothing stops this

Posted by: CN at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (U7k5w)

284 280 Meanwhile on the East end of Arkansas, in the Delta, the Beaujoulais brothers are shaking their heads, and exclaiming "Can yall believe, that prezdent we gots has made the chinks buy rice fromus".
Posted by: bill in arkansas at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (C1Lsn)

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"No. I'm voting for Bernie."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (zZbCU)

285
259 245 Then why was he investigated on totally unrelated nonsense?
Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (9PapW)

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Because that's how the federal government persecutes everyone?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (zZbCU)

That's a fair point but if Flynn had done something serious they could go after him for that. This is, to all appearances, petty politics, not dealing with intrigue.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 03:04 PM (9PapW)

286 I don't think Awan is connected with Hizb'allah he's Pakistani though stranger things.

I say he's AQ connected and he used being an Arab to get the Dems to hire him so they could show how much they love love love Arabs/Muslims and then he rifled through all their shit and sold it to whoever would pay him for it.

Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 03:04 PM (9VeU0)

287 Say Bobby, you ever been to a Turkish prison?

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 03:04 PM (MUs8j)

288 President Trump will host a Keep America Great Rally on Tuesday, January 28, 2020 at 7:00 pm (EST) at the Wildwoods Convention Center in Wildwood, NJ.

Posted by: Alice McD at January 15, 2020 03:04 PM (E+yET)

289 You so much as say "Hello" to an FBI agent, you are at risk.

Not much of an exaggeration.
Posted by: simplemind at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (2H6SI)
++++++++++++++
There is only one thing to say to a cop, ever.
"I am exercising my right to remain silent and that is all I have to say until my lawyer is present."

This is doubly true for feds.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 03:04 PM (I2dne)

290 Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (aqwWL)

So did he lie to Pence or not in regard to his contacts?

Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 03:04 PM (qcIWB)

291 but gulen has some heavy duty protection on capital hill, both of them used ergonokon which involved the grey wolves to purge the opposition,

oddly in the submission Sydney powell provided there was no such plot suggested,

Posted by: gaius martius at January 15, 2020 03:05 PM (hMlTh)

292 How could she give it to anyone other that Schiff?

Not saying you're wrong, but I just couldn't imagine anyone else getting the call.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 03:02 PM (zZbCU)

Did you see the others that were named as well?

Nadler (no surprise)
Lofgren, Calif. (Steele Truther)
Jeffries, N.Y. (Steele Truther)
Demings, Fla. (co-signer to Greene's first impeachment resolution)
Crow, Colo.
Garcia, Texas

Don't know much about the last 2.

Posted by: DocJ at January 15, 2020 03:05 PM (DU2N9)

293 259 245 Then why was he investigated on totally unrelated nonsense?
Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 02:56 PM (9PapW)

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Because that's how the federal government persecutes everyone?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM (zZbCU)

Offense in depth!
Never go after a target with only one offense that can be prosecuted. Proper DOJ/FBI hand-book requires that you fabricate enough crimes that the potential for decades of interminable prosecution makes the perp beg for a quiet jail cell.

Posted by: L Lerner, Civil Service (Retired) at January 15, 2020 03:05 PM (BiNEL)

294 163
Winning back the House.

Picking up two or or three Senate seats.

Replacing RBG

Let us pray!

Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2020 02:39 PM (HNGw7)

_________

If we don't win back the House, it's going to be an impeachment a month for four more years. At which point I'd welcome Trump going full Pinochet, so maybe a blessing in disguise?

Posted by: ShainS -- Make the 20's Roar Again! at January 15, 2020 03:06 PM (cLvUs)

295 I wouldn't be surprised if Awan was Pakistani intelligence.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at January 15, 2020 03:06 PM (xfb67)

296 Pence is GHWB.

Posted by: ... at January 15, 2020 03:06 PM (MUs8j)

297 281 254 Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (aqwWL)

Flynn did lie to him.
Posted by: Sebastian Melmoth at January 15, 2020 02:58 PM (qcIWB)

Pence fucking said Flynn lied to him and the FBI. He ran to Trump.

238 "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" - D.J. Trump
Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (5NMZN)

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:03 PM (aqwWL)

Trump also said Flynn lied to the FBI in that tweet. Do we have other reason to believe that Pence was doing anything than giving cover to the administration? Because he seems to be pretty reliable in not backstabbing Trump, although he doesn't really do much either.

Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 03:06 PM (9PapW)

298 272 249 238 "I had to fire General Flynn because he lied to the Vice President and the FBI. He has pled guilty to those lies. It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!" - D.J. Trump
Posted by: G at January 15, 2020 02:55 PM (5NMZN)

Flynn didnt lie to the FBI. Pence is a Deep State Globalist cuck.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 02:57 PM (aqwWL)

Why're you assuming Pence really cared and had some personal goal of removing Flynn? Doesn't seem like Pence ever really gets involved with the personnel scuffle that has been going on.

It has all the appearance of a "get rid of cabinet member to get rid of problem" maneuver with corresponding excuses.
Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (9PapW)

Because Pence is a Bushie Deep State. He knew Flynn is not and wanted Flynn and his influence gone. Flynn and his son were always team Trump.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:06 PM (aqwWL)

299 Winning back the House.
Picking up two or or three Senate seats.
Replacing RBG
Let us pray!
Posted by: Ignoramus at January 15, 2020 02:39 PM (HNGw7)
++++++++++++++
1) Doable. Necessary.
2) Unlikely. The Rs have a very hard map this year. Maintaining the majority would be a big victory.
3) Prayers up

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (I2dne)

300 We were promised that there would be the highest of high standards to protect the Constitutional Rights of Americans if we let law enforcement fight the war on terror in secret.

We were warned they were lying.

NONE of those promises were kept
EVERY part of the process was abused, corrupted and co-opted for political, partisan and domestic purposes
NOT ONE terrorist has been stopped because they were allowed to spy on Americans.
NOT ONE.

And these lying bastards know it. While they smugly lie to us.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (vPKfA)

301
Flynn's lawyer is HORRIBLE.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (EsAyS)

302 With respect to this program, it is a question of delegation. If Congress in an enacted law (signed by a president, not necessarily this one) has apportioned refugees in certain areas, then the President cannot then go and re-allocate based on the wishes of some governors. It just doesn't work like that.
Posted by: imp at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (SFOr6)

Mostly correct; BUT if the President, in implementing that law, states that he wants to include a Governor's wishes in how the law is implemented, then he is using his Federal Power to carry out Federal Legislation. AFAIK, the law in question did not do any apportionment, that was left completely up to the Executive Branch. Since there are no specific implementation guidelines, the Judiciary should defer to the Executive Branch, which has the authority to work with State Governors, if it chooses to do so.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (Kpl3J)

303 I would mind seeing Pence replaced with Admiral Rodgers.

Posted by: x at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (nFwvY)

304 nood Aussie fires

Posted by: DocJ at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (DU2N9)

305 299 1) Doable. Necessary.
2) Unlikely. The Rs have a very hard map this year. Maintaining the majority would be a big victory.
3) Prayers up
Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (I2dne)

==========

I think it's possible to net gain 1.

If McSally doesn't shit the bed, that is. Which she probably will.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, 003 with a License to Kill at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (zZbCU)

306 Trump also said Flynn lied to the FBI in that tweet. Do we have other reason to believe that Pence was doing anything than giving cover to the administration? Because he seems to be pretty reliable in not backstabbing Trump, although he doesn't really do much either.
Posted by: Someguy at January 15, 2020 03:06 PM (9PapW)

Trump said that because Pence told him. Funny how Pence got those bullshit transcripts before Trump.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (aqwWL)

307 Pence is there to plant a stake in the Christian vote. Not like a stake for a vampire.

Posted by: blaster at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (9VeU0)

308 301
Flynn's lawyer is HORRIBLE.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (EsAyS)

I think she's pretty good, BUT she's trying to correct more than a years worth of mistakes, and she's fighting a judge who's already decided that he hates her client.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (Kpl3J)

309 And these lying bastards know it. While they smugly lie to us.
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at January 15, 2020 03:07 PM (vPKfA)
++++++++++++++
It's about power. They got the brass ring. The war on drugs gave them nearly arbitrary power and the war on terror gave them fully arbitrary *and* secret power. They won. These are the fruits of their victory.

I'd be smug about it, too, if I were a shitbag power-monger with no scruples.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) (I2dne) at January 15, 2020 03:09 PM (I2dne)

310 I would (nt) mind seeing Pence replaced with Admiral Rodgers.
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they'd just escalate from impeachment to wet work

Posted by: simplemind at January 15, 2020 03:09 PM (2H6SI)

311 President Trump will host a Keep America Great Rally on Thursday, January 30, 2020 at 7:00 pm (CST) at The Knapp Center at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa.

Posted by: Alice McD at January 15, 2020 03:09 PM (E+yET)

312 303 I would mind seeing Pence replaced with Admiral Rodgers.
Posted by: x at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (nFwvY)

One can dream.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:10 PM (aqwWL)

313 This is real-journalist Luke Rosiak's baby. He's the only one who covered this story with the tenacity it deserves. He provides an update on Twitter:

Luke Rosiak Retweeted The Epoch Times

Update: Nothing happened today. The government is still telling the judge that the Awan case has to be secret for reasons that are, in themselves, secret -- making it impossible to argue against. Next date Feb. 10, likely to be similar. Some "mortgage matter," huh?

Posted by: Carly at January 15, 2020 03:10 PM (0zj3b)

314
1944 War Dept short

Private Snafu can't keep his stupid mouth shut:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vaupcu2qqI

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at January 15, 2020 03:10 PM (EsAyS)

315 Trump said that because Pence told him. Funny how Pence got those bullshit transcripts before Trump.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at January 15, 2020 03:08 PM (aqwWL)

Always remember, take Trump seriously, but never take him literally. Trump says a lot of stuff, it doesn't bother me what he says, even if I don't believe it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at January 15, 2020 03:10 PM (Kpl3J)

316 So when Schiff enters the Senate can all the Senators stand up and yell Chiarmella! Chiarmella! Chiarmella! and then have Chiarmella magically appear for testimony?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 15, 2020 03:10 PM (ymnmz)

317 "Posted by: imp at January 15, 2020 03:01 PM (SFOr6)"

Except if that law is unconstitutional at not in keeping with what is defined under the rules of naturalization. To wit, "refugees" and some of the legislation by Congress involving that is considered unconstitutional as it is not a specific power delegated to Congress. Personally, I would roll the legal dice on it and at it is a violation of the Tenth Amendment to NOT give states a choice. But what do I know.

Posted by: Marcus T at January 15, 2020 03:11 PM (VpIIl)

318

anyone remember BALLOON JUICE?

This stupid blog used to come over here and try to to give Ace a hard time. It was pathetic.

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 15, 2020 03:12 PM (EsAyS)

319 Update: Nothing happened today. The government is
still telling the judge that the Awan case has to be secret for reasons
that are, in themselves, secret -- making it impossible to argue
against. Next date Feb. 10, likely to be similar. Some "mortgage
matter," huh?

Posted by: Carly at January 15, 2020 03:10 PM (0zj3b)

He owns the note on the Treadstone Property?

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at January 15, 2020 03:12 PM (ymnmz)

320

NOOOD

Posted by: soothsayerwing plover at January 15, 2020 03:12 PM (EsAyS)

321 What? I brought enough commas for everyone.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at January 15, 2020 02:59 PM

Dude. It's one thing to show up at The Horde with canoe beer. Perfectly understandable. But we only value the finest of commas, the Oxford comma.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at January 15, 2020 03:12 PM (/FMDH)

322 Conspiracy theory alert: Look at the timing of when this Pakistani family started digging where they shouldn't have, and it matches up perfectly with the intelligence received that led to the dispatching of Osama bin Laden.

IOW....the ISI would be happy to tell you where you can find him, but we want something in return (as in access to all your private communications without your Congress). Obama was seeking re-election...remember?

Posted by: Orson at January 15, 2020 03:13 PM (McuUl)

323 So if I hear this right...we will nuke half the World.

Which parts is the question.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 15, 2020 03:18 PM (OmM+g)

324 Canoe beer

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at January 15, 2020 03:20 PM (OmM+g)

325 Barr is a company man. I think abhors what has happened but he doesn't want to take an ax to the thing, either. I think Barr wants to try to salvage it.

That's how I read him as well. Like Sessions, he thinks that he's dealing with a troubled agency with a few bad apples, not a rotten pile of swamp.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at January 15, 2020 03:27 PM (KZzsI)

326 The Awan story should be knitted together with Hillary's use of a personal server to do gov't business, and other rich examples of why democrats cannot be trusted. The idea that using a family of Pakistanis to do IT for house dems ight be a potential security risk is another reason to argue that dems should never be given power.

Posted by: iandeal at January 15, 2020 03:34 PM (vgGyZ)

327 I cannot understand why William Barr does not walk in to whatever stooge's office with a bottle of booze, a shot glass, a pistol, & one round and demand the documents be handed to him or be summarily fired and escorted out of the building

FIFY

Posted by: AltonJackson

This gambit is called "The Khrushchev".

Posted by: Sharkman at January 15, 2020 03:35 PM (MUVaZ)

328 Trump is only allowed to be President when his goals and desires serve the interests of the globalist-corporatist servants in the permanent bureaucracy.

The rest of the time he is a usurper who is to be resisted at all costs. His followers are to be punished for thinking they still have a voice in government, or for thinking their consent is needed to be governed.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at January 15, 2020 03:39 PM (rGgyS)

329

AFAIK, the law in question did not do any apportionment, that was left completely up to the Executive Branch. Since there are no specific implementation guidelines, the Judiciary should defer to the Executive Branch, which has the authority to work with State Governors, if it chooses to do so.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Thx, Tom. You have me at a loss. I have not read the opinion or the act. I will later. What I will say is that I felt the same way about denying funds to sanctuary cities until I read the opinion and the funding act. My underlying objection is that too many of us here think that Trump can do much about the Deep State saboteurs. Or about federal judges. He can't (though he's making good progress on the judge front).

Posted by: imp at January 15, 2020 03:42 PM (SFOr6)

330

To wit, "refugees" and some of the legislation by Congress involving that is considered unconstitutional as it is not a specific power delegated to Congress. Personally, I would roll the legal dice on it and at it is a violation of the Tenth Amendment to NOT give states a choice. But what do I know.
Posted by: Marcus T

Interestingly, you might be right that immigration is less constitutionally grounded than I had assumed.

From my acquaintance Ilya Somin:

https://www.cato-unbound.org/2018/09/12/ilya-somin/ does-constitution-give-federal-government-power-over-immigration

Posted by: imp at January 15, 2020 03:47 PM (SFOr6)

331

Careful, though, a lack of federa power over immigration at all would mean that NY and Cali let in as many people as they want, make them instant citizens, and poof! there goes the republic.

Posted by: imp at January 15, 2020 03:48 PM (SFOr6)

332 64 I wish that Trump had more of the Horde mentality is all. Can you imagine if he proceeded in action according to the Horde Way?
Posted by: tubal at January 15, 2020 02:22 PM (qhmX5)

He should wear nothing but assless chaps and Johnny Depp Tonto-style War Paint at the SOTU, complete with a dead crow on top of his head.

Posted by: Michael the Texan at January 15, 2020 04:19 PM (nvMvs)

333 Ok. Am I last?

LAST!

Posted by: Darrell Harris at January 15, 2020 04:22 PM (iuFgi)

334 I think he's just giving the commies all their rope back.

Posted by: Markon at January 15, 2020 06:48 PM (pWmr4)

335 Reminder: it is a crime to classify information purely for the purpose of saving the government from embarrassment.

Posted by: Anon at January 15, 2020 07:55 PM (SyWbj)

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