The Intended Consequences Of Enforcing Immigration Law: More Jobs For Americans

Well...Duh! This is not rocket surgery. Economics may be an inexact (pseudo) science, but this development is completely unsurprising.

African Americans Are Taking Back Jobs Stolen By Illegal Aliens

African Americans are taking back jobs that were stolen from them by illegal immigrants. In August, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officers swept up 680 illegal immigrants during raids on seven food processing plants in Mississippi. Without the cheap labor, the companies were forced to hire Americans to do the work.

The best part of this is the monumental struggle to find something bad in increased employment for Black Americans. But rest assured, the NYT and the NAACP are on the job!

The president of the local NAACP compared the raids to slavery, proving once again the NAACP has become nothing more than an arm of the Democratic Party that stopped advancing the interests of African Americans a long time ago.

And...

The raids were believed to be the largest statewide immigration crackdown in recent history and a partial fulfillment of President Trump’s vow to remove millions of undocumented workers from the country. The impact on Mississippi’s immigrant community has been devastating. For nonimmigrant workers, the aftermath has forced them into a personal reckoning with questions of morality and economic self-interest: The raids brought suffering, but they also created job openings.

Amazing, isn't it! Their tortured manipulation of the vernacular carefully avoids the salient data; these people were in the country illegally, therefore they were employed illegally. This is not some ethical conundrum. This is the law. But "the law is a ass" when it conflicts with the NYT world view that the most important goal of the modern era is the subsuming of America in a sea of unwashed illegals, so finally..FINALLY...their progressive utopia can be achieved. And if that destroys their old and tired weapon of choice (Black America)? Then so be it.

Posted by: CBD at 02:15 PM

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1 I know the drill

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 02:16 PM (ZCEU2)

2 Time machine

Posted by: ... at December 29, 2019 02:17 PM (GTSpe)

3 Incredible how whenever things are put in plain terms, the issues stand out in stark clarity. It's like anyone who wants to deceive us must first muddy the waters.

Posted by: Long-time Commenter, First-time Reader at December 29, 2019 02:18 PM (Nu6Gg)

4 I have as well as dutifully calling the horde seen what illegal immigration has done in the building industry for 30 years.

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 02:18 PM (ZCEU2)

5
Fake News just told me President Trump did NOT keep his promise to turbocharge US manufacturing jobs.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:19 PM (O/zHC)

6 "How Dare You!" speech is best suited for our assholes in Congress.

How dare they give away our birthright so easily.

Where is our own Greta on immigration? The youth are having their future stolen right now and all they can worry about is Star Wars movies and who shot Nipsey Hussle.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 29, 2019 02:19 PM (Z+IKu)

7 Trump is inflicting employment on people of color. I can't even.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 02:20 PM (VNfwt)

8 The NAACP supports illegal immigration? Naturally. The observant observer sees a lot of funny stuff.

Posted by: klaftern at December 29, 2019 02:20 PM (RuIsu)

9 So fucking obvious, yet they persist.

Posted by: nip at December 29, 2019 02:21 PM (cpS4u)

10
btw, someone, probably soros, is arranging for lots of Africans, all peasants with zero job skills, to travel through Central America shitholes to the Mexican-US border.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:21 PM (O/zHC)

11 Black Cowboy Poets hardest hit.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:21 PM (yQpMk)

12 Anyone know what happened to the illegals? If they weren't put on a plane or bus back to their real homes, nothing was accomplished. There are still plenty of employers out there willing to hire them.

Posted by: pep at December 29, 2019 02:21 PM (T6t7i)

13 Citizens are like members of a labor union. Illegal non-citizen workers are basically scabs. The national border is like a picket line. Those who cross the picket line are at risk -- fairly or not, that's just how union protections work. When the scab work force is reduced, the union workers reap the benefits.

What Republican is willing to explain it so bluntly?

Posted by: pouncer at December 29, 2019 02:21 PM (L/ssi)

14 The NAACP supports illegal immigration?

Oddest thing, so does the Sierra Club.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:22 PM (yQpMk)

15 And the criminal element. Illegal hit and run right before Christmas by some asshole deported 6 times. Woman died. Denver area. I am still seething about that story.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2019 02:22 PM (MTxDQ)

16 One might suspect that it's all a grift for the Left.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:22 PM (yQpMk)

17 It's outrageous.

"Don't take those illegal immigrants and give us the jobs. Let them keep the jobs, and we'll stay on welfare."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:23 PM (pxTb/)

18
The NAACP supports illegal immigration?

Oddest thing, so does the Sierra Club.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

So does every single member-union of the AFL-CIO.
Weird...

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:23 PM (O/zHC)

19 so...when do we start addressing the college slots (including almost ALL athletic spots for certain sports) that are going to foreigners - most of whom are NOT paying like the fabled "chinese students paying full freight"?!?

take away the colleges' preference for foreigners over Americans (they like that particular kind of diversity a WHOLE LOT) and a lot of the stress our highschoolers feel will disappear.

Posted by: BlackOrchid, Wanna-Be Ukrainian Asset at December 29, 2019 02:23 PM (Rarvo)

20 16 One might suspect that it's all a grift for the Left.

it's that and they really just don't like Americans

Posted by: BlackOrchid, Wanna-Be Ukrainian Asset at December 29, 2019 02:24 PM (Rarvo)

21 NAACP, exhibit A in "civil-rights organisations not founded by blacks and, where they've improved black lives,* it was accidental". The SPLC being exhibit B.

*I'm talking about metrics like poverty, good governance, and family cohesion; not on "voting rights" or other such claptrap.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 29, 2019 02:24 PM (qGT57)

22 If only there were some political organization that would take an interest in the welfare of Americans.

It would have to be large though, on the order of a Political Party.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:24 PM (yQpMk)

23 14 The NAACP supports illegal immigration?

Oddest thing, so does the Sierra Club.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:22 PM (yQpMk)

As do all other Communist front groups. St. Greta of Cabbage Patch recently weighed in on "racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic patriarchal systems of oppression."

Nope, no Communist influence there. Nosir.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:24 PM (pxTb/)

24 I call for the disallowment of tax write offs for wages paid by employers if the name/SSN/DOB do not match.

With a three year period to appeal if you can get your employee's data straight.

I would call that winning

Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2019 02:25 PM (1glZx)

25 Much worse than torture of language, CBD, outright lies, as usual [the following directed at the excerpted article, not anyone here].

What impact would the raids have had on the *legal* immigrant "community"? Other than positive?

Oh - ILLLEGAL aliens were negatively affected.

I was assuming the article was written in English, and based on reality and common sense.

But this is standard mendacious race-baiting and fear-mongering. "Immigrants" are generally not the least bit troubled by enforcement of law, in fact are often ardent proponents thereof. Who'da thunk it/

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (El6T/)

26 I call for the disallowment of tax write offs for wages paid by employers if the name/SSN/DOB do not match.

With a three year period to appeal if you can get your employee's data straight.

I would call that winning

Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2019 02:25 PM (1glZx)

That's not who we are.

Posted by: The Chamber of Commerce at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (yQpMk)

27 That the Sierra Club would be pro-open borders makes no sense and proves beyond doubt that all these liberal special interest organizations no longer stand for their stated objectives.

They are just their to collect money from the gullible to give to the DNC.

There will be a reckoning.

Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (o1fzk)

28 If illegal criminal invaders were taking white NYT "journalist" jobs there would be quite the different take from NYT "journalists."

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (pw+jk)

29 Fake News just told me President Trump did NOT keep his promise to turbocharge US manufacturing jobs.

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Yeah, boy! If Hillary were president the economy would be cooking with gas! Well, actually, probably with solar energy but still . . .

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)

30 take away the colleges' preference for foreigners over Americans (they like that particular kind of diversity a WHOLE LOT) and a lot of the stress our highschoolers feel will disappear.
Posted by: BlackOrchid, Wanna-Be Ukrainian Asset at December 29, 2019 02:23 PM (Rarvo)

The University of California blatantly prefers foreign students paying full freight, so they can provide free tuition to their favorite minorities.

Who gets hosed? The kids of white middle-class taxpaying California residents. No room at the inn for them. Paying California taxes for decades? So what? Get lost.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:27 PM (pxTb/)

31 Once upon a time, American youth could get real part time and summer jobs, thereby learning valuable life skills. Many of these jobs are now taken by illegals.

Raising the drinking age to 21 also didn't help.

Once upon a time, these jobs could put a meaningful dent in college tuition

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 29, 2019 02:29 PM (pmYdl)

32 You want good economic news? Elect a Donk.
You want a good economy? Don't elect a Donkcommie.

Posted by: klaftern at December 29, 2019 02:30 PM (RuIsu)

33 Democrats hate legal Americans

Democrats hate white people.
Democrats hate Christians.
Democrats are the party of hate... and corruption.... and criminality.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 29, 2019 02:30 PM (pw+jk)

34 The University of California blatantly prefers foreign students paying full freight, so they can provide free tuition to their favorite minorities.

Who gets hosed? The kids of white middle-class taxpaying California
residents. No room at the inn for them. Paying California taxes for
decades? So what? Get lost.

It's exactly the same in Virginia, except that there are also geographical quotas for the less affluent parts. Thus, the kids from NoVa grossly outperform their counterparts from the west and south. The kids from NoVa had better walk on water if they want to go to UVa or William and Mary.

Posted by: pep at December 29, 2019 02:30 PM (T6t7i)

35 Communism has always fought for one world order, ends inter nation rivalry. Workers of the world and all that garbage.

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 02:30 PM (ZCEU2)

36
Yeah, boy! If Hillary were president the
economy would be cooking with gas! Well, actually, probably with solar
energy but still . . .
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)

Instead of my original comment, I will just say that I really want to get one of those induction cooking surfaces. You can get a single "burner" hotplate for about 90 smackers now. I am fascinated, even though I would need to replace my Revereware Copper clad pans

Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2019 02:30 PM (1glZx)

37 Always amazed me that blacks would vote for a party that is actively replacing them in the workplace. The lure of free shit I guess.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (kfNIA)

38 The NAACP supports illegal immigration?

Oddest thing, so does the Sierra Club.

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Well, they don't call it the Mountains Club.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (+y/Ru)

39 The AA in NAACP does *not* stand for African-American. May be instructive.

Posted by: ... at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (GTSpe)

40 Much worse than torture of language, CBD, outright lies, as usual [the following directed at the excerpted article, not anyone here].
What impact would the raids have had on the *legal* immigrant "community"? Other than positive?
Oh - ILLLEGAL aliens were negatively affected.
Posted by: rhomboid

This is an example where at first blush you think the press got it wrong, made a mistake.
But, no.
They got it right in that it promotes the agenda and smears Trump. They don't care if it's true or correct.

What was it Harry Reid the Pedo said?

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (VNfwt)

41 I have nothing in common with a Spanish worker beyond the shared desire for Siestas after lunch.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (yQpMk)

42 Jukin, the Dems are the party of Oikophobes.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2019 02:32 PM (1glZx)

43 One might suspect that it's all a grift for the Left.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:22 PM

That hardly seems inclusive.

Posted by: GOPe at December 29, 2019 02:32 PM (DMUuz)

44 That the Sierra Club would be pro-open borders makes no sense and proves beyond doubt that all these liberal special interest organizations no longer stand for their stated objectives.

They are just there to collect money from the gullible to give to the DNC.

There will be a reckoning.
Posted by: JoeF. at December 29, 2019 02:26 PM (o1fzk)

I'm more cynical than that. Not to go all tinfoil-hatty, but I think that all of these organizations that inexplicably support policies contrary to the nature of the organization are in fact deeply penetrated by Communist operatives. Notice how you cannot predict their take on an issue from the stated goal of the organization, but you CAN predict it if you assume their actual goal is leftist subversion.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:33 PM (pxTb/)

45 If illegal criminal invaders were taking white NYT "journalist" jobs there would be quite the different take from NYT "journalists."
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios

Also, if these illegals were tilting elections toward Republicans we would already have had a big, beautiful wall for twenty years.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 02:34 PM (VNfwt)

46 Jukin, the Dems are the party of Oikophobes.

Posted by: Kindltot at December 29, 2019 02:32 PM (1glZx)

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Yes but I think the pure quest for power of the fascist leaders stokes that.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 29, 2019 02:34 PM (pw+jk)

47 39 The AA in NAACP does *not* stand for African-American. May be instructive.
Posted by: ... at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (GTSpe)

And the interpretation of "CP" is open for debate as well.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:35 PM (pxTb/)

48 Unethical is them inviting illegals in under the false pretense that they would be welcomed and given jobs and free stuff for ever.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 02:35 PM (ZS+GP)

49 Invaded by commies, like the ACLU.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2019 02:36 PM (MTxDQ)

50 37 Always amazed me that blacks would vote for a party that is actively replacing them in the workplace. The lure of free shit I guess.
Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 02:31 PM (kfNIA)

My guess: short term thinking. And the failure to grasp that you'll never get prosperous on handouts.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:36 PM (pxTb/)

51
NAACP, exhibit A in "civil-rights organisations not founded by blacks and, where they've improved black lives,* it was accidental". The SPLC being exhibit B.

*I'm talking about metrics like poverty, good governance, and family cohesion; not on "voting rights" or other such claptrap.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at December 29, 2019 02:24 PM (qGT57)

Yeah, I get a kick out of pointing out the fact that the NAACP was founded by a bunch of pasty white people and Joos in 1910, along with WEB Du Bois as the token negro. Even worse is that they made WEB DB Minister of Information or some such euphemism for "designated loudmouth", because they weren't stupid enough to let that commie actually RUN the organization.

Not to mention the fact that the NAACP didn't have a black President until the mid-1970s.

The part that kills me is that frankly, black folk deserved better, but they got a bunch of cracker grifters as their major civil rights organization.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 29, 2019 02:37 PM (LvkqA)

52 NAACP was started by commies.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 02:37 PM (ZS+GP)

53 Invaded by commies, like the ACLU.

In fairness, the ACLU has always been commie. To complain that they have been infiltrated would be like complaining about communist influence in the National Lawyer's Guild.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:38 PM (yQpMk)

54 pep - oh, it's much worse than you fear.

Many of those un-a**ed from the food processing jobs were not deported, nor even placed on a fast track to it. Oh no. "Humanitarian" considerations - families, etc - led to lots of the usual nonsense.

And this kind of "raid" should be a *weekly* occurrrence, nothing unusual.

Better yet, as suggested here and elsewhere for years now, DHS/DOJ should convene meetings with the largest known systematic law-breaking enterprises and offer them a glide-path to legal operations [orderly removal of illegals/transition to legal labor/reasonable help with the human side of things including transportation to countries of nationality + nominal $$$ assistance purely as propaganda for our dumbed-down populace].

With the alternative being this kind of raid, WITH the full menu of civil and criminal penalties for the company perps.

But Trump is still securing his beach-head in much of the bureaucracy, far from doing "mopping up" operations. And Miller hasn't worked any miracles or anything close, and the Beltway GOP remains firmly [and triumphantly, for the most part] athwart Trump's agenda.

And the judicial side is a wasteland of pyrrhic "victories" that further degraded constitutional executive power and the very system, and further aggrandized lawless and pernicious judicial sabotage.

Border barrier kind of OK, bilateral stuff with MX and Central America finally getting much better [i.e. they were forced to cooperate on key items] but years later than should have been the case.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 02:38 PM (El6T/)

55
Every single leftist "cause" is really only about 2 things:

1. a Leftist power grab
2. redistribution of wealth to Leftists

It's about Power and Wealth.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:40 PM (O/zHC)

56 As always, Fen's Law Explains All.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:41 PM (yQpMk)

57 I first realized that every specialized group that supports a given agenda like the NAACP, womens groups, and all the others are just methods to get that particular group to support collectivism, totalitarian authoritarianism, was BJ Clinton's raping of women.

I used to sort of believe that although all these groups had a leftist bent, the organizations were first and foremost for their stated goal. Then all the feminist and womens groups came out against the rape victims and for the rapists, BJ Clinton. That was my eyeopener. At that time one could easily tell all of those groups were leftists first and what their group's stated goal a distant second.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 29, 2019 02:41 PM (pw+jk)

58 49 Invaded by commies, like the ACLU.
Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2019 02:36 PM (MTxDQ)

The ACLU was founded by what were effectively commies. They were just a little more discreet about it back in the 1920s, that's all.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:41 PM (pxTb/)

59

That includes all "Social Justice." It's all bullshit.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:41 PM (O/zHC)

60 Colin Kaepernick warns against capitalism

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Well, if great and brilliant American like Krapperdick is against it, so am I.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:41 PM (+y/Ru)

61 btw, someone, probably soros, is arranging for lots of Africans, all peasants with zero job skills, to travel through Central America shitholes to the Mexican-US border.

Trump should just sign an extradition agreement with Hungary, where they want to combine Soros with a lamppost and rope.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 29, 2019 02:42 PM (6XLoz)

62 My guess: short term thinking. And the failure to grasp that you'll never get prosperous on handouts.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:36 PM (pxTb/)

Maybe so. I just can't see how one can look around and come to the conclusion that This is it. The best it can be.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 02:42 PM (kfNIA)

63
Yeah. Fen.

That is our biggest problem and the main reason we lose to the Left -- most of us still believe the Left is sincere in their causes.

Even now, I'll have a dummy or two in this thread explain to me about "true believers."

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:43 PM (O/zHC)

64 Free stuff is the drug to keep them voting for you, doesn't even have to come to fruition.

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 02:43 PM (ZCEU2)

65 I first realized that every specialized group that supports a given agenda like the NAACP, womens groups, and all the others are just methods to get that particular group to support collectivism, totalitarian authoritarianism, was BJ Clinton's raping of women.

I suspect some of them started out legitimately for their purported agenda, and were subsequently penetrated (e.g., the Sierra Club, and most foundations), whereas others were Communist fronts from the get-go (e.g., National Lawyers Guild).

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:43 PM (pxTb/)

66 Don't worry. When I am president I will see that those black folks are put back in the unemployment lines and illegals replace them as working people.

Posted by: Joe Biden at December 29, 2019 02:44 PM (pw+jk)

67 If we can ever drastically reduce illegal immigration from south of the border, here's another beneficial intended consequence: When we do admit people to do low-wage, unskilled labor, we can screen and select those we admit. The screening won't be perfect, but it should be better than the non-screening of tens of thousands of illegals who cross and are not apprehended.

Posted by: Gref at December 29, 2019 02:45 PM (AMIL/)

68 Maybe so. I just can't see how one can look around and come to the conclusion that This is it. The best it can be.
Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 02:42 PM (kfNIA)

Ah, but that's OUR perspective. If your perspective is that "I don't have to do anything, and this is good enough," then it follows.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:45 PM (pxTb/)

69 Free stuff is the drug to keep them voting for you, doesn't even have to come to fruition.

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So what you're saying is that Marxism is the opiate of the masses?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:45 PM (+y/Ru)

70 Trump should just sign an extradition agreement with Hungary, where they want to combine Soros with a lamppost and rope.

Posted by: Ian S. at December 29, 2019 02:42 PM (6XLoz)

The whole family.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 02:46 PM (ZS+GP)

71 Finds or jail time for the owners?

Posted by: Regular joe at December 29, 2019 02:46 PM (6/uwW)

72 So what you're saying is that Marxism is the opiate of the masses?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:45 PM (+y/Ru)

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Marxism is the opiate of the stupid... oh wait, you had it right. Sorry.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 29, 2019 02:46 PM (pw+jk)

73 NAACP supports illegals taking jobs. Huh, must be holding out for reparations.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 02:47 PM (Dhht7)

74 Saudi national....rich Dad. Drove Cadillac 120mph into parked CHP Christmas eve two years ago in SF Bay area.

complete news blackout

Posted by: torabora at December 29, 2019 02:47 PM (Y274z)

75 If your perspective is that "I don't have to do anything, and this is good enough," then it follows.

If it doesn't rain the roof don't leak, and if it's raining, you can't do anything right now anyway.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:47 PM (yQpMk)

76 Breaking from the Babylon Bee:

San Francisco Dogs Begin Bagging People Poop

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 02:47 PM (+y/Ru)

77 2020 could be a redefining election. The Ds have an underlying schism between Crazy Progressives and Centrist-leaning Minorities. Their leaders live in bubbles. Trump will club any nominee like a baby seal.

The crazy Ds won't go away. They'll retreat to a few Deep Blue States and urban redoubts

Posted by: Ignoramus at December 29, 2019 02:48 PM (pmYdl)

78 And "sanctuary" jurisdictions have exploded in number since the enTrumpenation. With total impunity, to date.

NJ just gave DLs to illegals, right? Kind of shocking they are so far behind the rest, given NJ's impeccable idiocy credentials.

Remember, a year ago, the sickening infuriating case of the dirtbag illegal murdering the legal immigrant model-citizen cop in CA? On Christmas Day?

Or maybe you don't. Understandable. Imaginary and ridiculous "crimes" and offenses receive non-stop media pimping. Real outrages ..... if noticed at all, fade within hours.

Trump will likely have 4 more years, but at this pace his time may not even amount to a holding action [on this vital set of issues] or speed bump.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 02:48 PM (El6T/)

79 Keep these fucking people out of my country!

Okay, you can visit. Now show me the money!

Posted by: Fritz at December 29, 2019 02:50 PM (zD38/)

80
Are these the same raids where that brat was wailing at the camera that "these Hispanic people aren't doing nothing bad"? Here she is:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPVlJPYJyVM

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 29, 2019 02:52 PM (oGNNA)

81

That's another thing. Some of think the Democrat party is going off the cliff. You ignore the historical evidence that shows the Republicans following the Democrat party leftward over the decades.

The GOP is always being led and fooled by the "demographics" and figure it makes sense to follow the Democrats towards the left, but moderately.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:52 PM (O/zHC)

82 "Good news, son! I bought you a car! Now you can get a job!"

NAACP, looking up from XBOX: "Fu*k!"

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at December 29, 2019 02:53 PM (ZQEWK)

83 Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 02:48 PM (El6T/)

My negative mantra the past 40 years has been 'one step forward, two steps back'.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 29, 2019 02:53 PM (CCNCh)

84 The clock is racing as we head to the election determining the fate of Western Civilization

Posted by: Zeera BMGG Books Make Great Gifts at December 29, 2019 02:53 PM (zUdXR)

85 That the NYT even mentions the opportunity angle of these raids for Americans is significant. So they slant the article to get "their" Americans back on the plantation.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 02:54 PM (1+J19)

86 And "sanctuary" jurisdictions have exploded in number since the enTrumpenation. With total impunity, to date.
Posted by: rhomboid

Not only that, but have you ever seen even one thought piece about the troubling constitutionality of sanctuary cities being in open rebellion to the federal government? No, you have not. Not a peep from the DNC media.

Now, counties in VA are declaring themselves Sec Amendment sanctuaries from state gov gun grabbing. And right on cue, I'm being told that this is double plus ungood to not ascribe to the diktats of the elected government.

The Left: if they didn't have double standards they'd have no standards at all.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 02:56 PM (VNfwt)

87 In discussing stuff like this with a young black friend (whom my wife calls my "third son"), I asked, "If every racial grievance were somehow settled tomorrow, which party would gain, and which would lose, as a consequence?"

Long silence. Then, "I see your point."

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:58 PM (pxTb/)

88 now if the GOP had half a brain, someone would be contacting those 680 newly hired African-Americans and asking if they are registered to vote and if so, if they'd like to join the Blexit movement.

If.

Posted by: vivi at December 29, 2019 02:58 PM (11H2y)

89 Dems' nominal electoral success is only part of the picture.

The GOP's indifference [i.e. support] towards mass illegal migration and all the civic social public safety and legal rot that accompanies it remains a constant [nearly unchanged in the Trump era].

The judicial usurpation and lawlessness continue and escalate - with only personnel changes [appointments] offering any hope of temporary, and far from certain, restoration of common sense and rule of law.

Most important of course, the electorate accepts it all. The economic boom makes it likely the electorate will become even lazier and more complacent about it all. Every bit of this is fixable via voting, but very unlikely any fixing in our near future.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 02:59 PM (El6T/)

90 The Left is like cultural entropy. Or rust, which also never sleeps.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:03 PM (yQpMk)

91 And now a word from Chuck Todd:

Chuck Todd: Trump Voters Believe in Fairytales and the Story of Noah's Ark

Meanwhile, progressive voters believe:

Daily Mirror@DailyMirror
Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 03:03 PM (+y/Ru)

92 Too soon for an OT question? Gotta Linux Mint question.

Posted by: Puddleglum at December 29, 2019 03:04 PM (w5hTo)

93 Chuck Todd: Trump Voters Believe in Fairytales and the Story of Noah's Ark

What exactly to the trousered apes believe in?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:04 PM (yQpMk)

94 Every bit of this is fixable via voting, but very unlikely any fixing in our near future.

The key, as you said, is the electorate. Which is why exposing the crimes, evil, and largesse is so important. The Dems' best move will be rolling impeachment, trying to saturate the social media airwaves. Also, blocking Trump's tweets.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:04 PM (CDGwz)

95 Oh - and the decline of the Dems - and their voters, by definition - and the institutions they dominate into crazy corrupt hateful bats**t territory only worsens the problem.

Marginally informed/sane voters have little choice. It's GOP, or the Khmer Rouge/Nazi/freak hybrid [even when presenting itself as "moderate" midwest 197Os "liberal", as so many Dems *still* do outside the blue s-holes]. GOP has no need to adapt, so doesn't.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 03:05 PM (El6T/)

96 If the plant owner was in on the scam, and turned in his own illegal aliens when they started getting uppity about lack of safety and abuse by the foremen/overseers, like the plant in Iowa, then the owner and management at the plant need to spend some time in the big house, and not club Fed.

If there was a state law saying no picking on foreigners or asking why they all use the same SSN#, then that needs to be publicized too

Posted by: Downcast at December 29, 2019 03:05 PM (zgkHc)

97 The Left is like cultural entropy. Or rust, which also never sleeps.

Cancer is also progressive.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:06 PM (CDGwz)

98 Is it only blacks who are taking these jobs? I'm uncomfortable with that. And I'm struggling to put into words why.

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2019 03:06 PM (XxJt1)

99 And now a word from Chuck Todd:

Chuck Todd: Trump Voters Believe in Fairytales and the Story of Noah's Ark

Meanwhile, progressive voters believe:

Daily Mirror@DailyMirror
Transgender man gives birth to non-binary partner's baby with female sperm donor
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 03:03 PM

That's good snark but I bet Chuck Todd doesn't rule out that aliens assisted with building the Pyramids if he's like other Leftists I am aware of.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 29, 2019 03:06 PM (CCNCh)

100 Flash Email Traffic: Bear Creek Arsenal Stripped AR-15 Upper Receiver

Today only: $26.99
Limit 3

http://bit.ly/2ZwStNC

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:06 PM (yQpMk)

101 I know the drill
Posted by: Skip

So does NGU

Posted by: JT at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM (arJlL)

102 Note that I waited until 100 to go OT, like a good Moron.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM (yQpMk)

103 The key, as you said, is the electorate. Which is why exposing the crimes, evil, and largesse is so important. The Dems' best move will be rolling impeachment, trying to saturate the social media airwaves. Also, blocking Trump's tweets.
Posted by: t-bird

Vic had a link this morning of TuCa holding forth about the state of the Republican party. It is becoming a Trump party, but way too slowly. Of the Republicans in office in the House when Trump took office, something like 43% are gone to retirement or electoral defeat.

His best point is that the new party will support bettering the lives of people, not blindly supporting principles.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM (VNfwt)

104 Dang you, Grump. Been a while since I've reviewed prices - but $27 for a stripped upper seems ..... tempting.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM (El6T/)

105 Note: Trump pardoned Rubashkin, the Iowa slaughterhouse owner, who was embodying every greedy Jew stereotype imaginable.

Posted by: Downcast at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM (zgkHc)

106 it only blacks who are taking these jobs? I'm uncomfortable with that. And I'm struggling to put into words why.
Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2019 03:06 PM

It's Mississippi and the percentage of the black population combined with their unemployment rate it makes sense. But I understand what you're saying. I think.

Posted by: Easy Andy at December 29, 2019 03:09 PM (CCNCh)

107 Dang you, Grump. Been a while since I've reviewed prices - but $27 for a stripped upper seems ..... tempting.

It will pair nicely with the $29 lowers that I already have.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:09 PM (yQpMk)

108

Note that I waited until 100 to go OT, like a good Moron.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

You have brown stuff on your nose.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:10 PM (O/zHC)

109 I know the drill
Posted by: Skip

So does NGU
Posted by: JT at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM (arJlL)

Sigh

Posted by: Nevergiveup at December 29, 2019 03:10 PM (85Gof)

110 Thanks, Andy. I think you do understand.

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2019 03:11 PM (XxJt1)

111 That's good snark but I bet Chuck Todd doesn't rule out that aliens assisted with building the Pyramids if he's like other Leftists I am aware of.
Posted by: Easy Andy

I know you're being snarky, but you can book it, bitch, the Reptilians were involved.

Posted by: E. Von Daniken at December 29, 2019 03:11 PM (VNfwt)

112 with 1/2 inch of ice and high winds coming

thought I'd check out the old whole house generator

kept shutting down

checked oil, iz OK and clean

disconnected oil pressure sensor

now stays running

my rube goldberg luck is still running

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:12 PM (rpxSz)

113 And the interpretation of "CP" is open for debate as well.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 29, 2019 02:35 PM (pxTb/)

Cheese pizza?

Posted by: ... at December 29, 2019 03:13 PM (uEbPt)

114 You have brown stuff on your nose.

It's ice cream.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:13 PM (yQpMk)

115 The sun finally came out and it's a balmy 26 out.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2019 03:14 PM (MTxDQ)

116 Not pronouncing on the future, but to date almost none of the turnover in GOP personnel has produced any change on the issue in question.

On trade, etc., which clearly now are benefiting millions, there will be at least nominal falling in line with Trump, but on mass illegal migration the GOP trend continues [dishonest, disastrous]. And, with few exceptions, down to the *state level*, too - which is really important. DeSantis in FL an exception, but don't see *any* imitation elsewhere, which tracks with GOP performance in last twenty years.

Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 03:14 PM (El6T/)

117
I finally watched Denzel's Equalizer, last night. It was okay.

Was the sequel any good?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:14 PM (O/zHC)

118 Was the sequel any good?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile

Noop. I didn't think so.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:15 PM (VNfwt)

119 Note that I waited until 100 to go OT, like a good Moron.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:08 PM

You, Sir, are an outstanding Moron!

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at December 29, 2019 03:15 PM (DMUuz)

120 Egyptians built he pyramids all by themselves. It was pyramid schemes that aliens helped them come up with, which led to the decline and fall of the New Kingdom

Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 29, 2019 03:15 PM (E3678)

121

The Jews conned the Egyptians into forcing them to build the Pyramids.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:16 PM (O/zHC)

122 Is it only blacks who are taking these jobs? I'm uncomfortable with that. And I'm struggling to put into words why.

Posted by: creeper at December 29, 2019 03:06

No. IIRC, it was equal number whites, blacks, latinos.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 03:17 PM (Dhht7)

123
It's ice cream.

Posted by: Grump928(C)

That's what the Joos want you to think.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:17 PM (O/zHC)

124 Packers TD. Trailing Lions 17-10. Grammie needs to step up her game.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 03:18 PM (Dhht7)

125 A town of 3500 now gets 680 jobs (although there are other small towns in the area, too). What an impact.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:19 PM (Wd55D)

126 I'll have a drumstick, please, since we're talking chicken.

Posted by: ALH at December 29, 2019 03:19 PM (EpeCy)

127 NAACP is Nat. Assoc. for Advancement of Colored Politicians yes?

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 29, 2019 03:19 PM (n4y+3)

128 How mucho yo pey for the chocking el polo? I yam Canerdean.

Posted by: saf at December 29, 2019 03:19 PM (5IHGB)

129 I finally watched Denzel's Equalizer, last night. It was okay.

Was the sequel any good?

More enjoyable than a sharp stick in the eye but not even close to being as good as the first one since the source and extent of his skillz is now known to the viewer.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:19 PM (yQpMk)

130
I mis-posted this:

A 60-something yr old guy just walking down the street in Boston the other night was beaten and kicked and stomped by kids. It's on video.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:20 PM (O/zHC)

131 The Jews conned the Egyptians into forcing them to build the Pyramids.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:16 PM (O/zHC)

Well, they were just getting started. Mistakes were made, the guy who came up with that plan was sacked.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2019 03:20 PM (ycWCI)

132 But +1 on the old ultra-violence, my droog.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

133
We left Leo at the emergency vet and got a call later that he had a grand mal seizure. That may be good or bad. If it's epilepsy then maybe medication can help. But if he has another while on anti-seizure medicine then it's likely to be a tumor or lesion, in which case it's curtains. Not optimistic but we won't give up until there's no choice.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 29, 2019 03:20 PM (7rVsF)

134
The Patriots aren't really taking the Dolphins seriously.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:20 PM (O/zHC)

135 The Clarion-Ledger, the paper of Jackson, MS, has been carrying the "ICE raids are bad" water. Just the other day on the front page they had a story with a headline about the 'hardships' families are facing after the ICE raids.

A pox on the media, if you are so in love with these illegal immigrants invite them to live in your house. But leave me out of your suicidal fantasies.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 03:21 PM (Dzs5s)

136 Linux Mint Question (for those who use it): What AV is a good one to use?

Also, what does 'Unable to Mount' mean? I have 2 internal HD (500GB) and 1 external (HD 2TB). The external drive and 1 of the internal drives works fine. The 2nd drive is the one giving me the 'Unable to Mount' message. It's not a major thing right now, just curious. Right now I'm just happy to have successfully loaded Linux Mint onto my old WS and have it actually work. I'd like to squeeze some more life out of it. I had to change OS's because Win7 will no longer be supported in January.

Posted by: Puddlglum at December 29, 2019 03:21 PM (w5hTo)

137 132 But +1 on the old ultra-violence, my droog.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:20 PM (yQpMk)

Sure makes you want to trust politicians on gun control, eh?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2019 03:21 PM (ycWCI)

138
Is it only blacks who are taking these jobs? I'm uncomfortable with that. And I'm struggling to put into words why.
Posted by: creeper

======

The article gives the evolution of the local labor. First it was all-white, then the whites moved on and it was all Black, then when the industry expanded and there was real money to be made, the big bosses moved on from Black labor and literally recruited Mexicans from the Texas border. With Hispanics being raided out, Blacks are returning.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at December 29, 2019 03:21 PM (oGNNA)

139 He's waving that damned magic wand again...

Posted by: Barack Hussein Obama at December 29, 2019 03:21 PM (Wd55D)

140 On trade, etc., which clearly now are benefiting millions, there will be at least nominal falling in line with Trump, but on mass illegal migration the GOP trend continues [dishonest, disastrous]. And, with few exceptions, down to the *state level*, too - which is really important. DeSantis in FL an exception, but don't see *any* imitation elsewhere, which tracks with GOP performance in last twenty years.
Posted by: rhomboid at December 29, 2019 03:14 PM (El6T/)

***

The position most elected Republicans have long found themselves in when it comes to illegals is that the voters that elected them want strict enforcement, but the corporate sponsors that fund them do not, hence they talk a tough line but never actually do anything.

Part of what makes Trump different is that he has FU money and thus doesn't need the corporate donors.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 29, 2019 03:22 PM (RIvx9)

141 A job I hate is cleaning my gutters. 53 degrees here in lovely Crook County and with near an inch of rain coming I thought I should get to it. You know you're getting old when climbing up and down a ladder kicks your ass.

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:22 PM (K22Va)

142
I was planning on watching The Joker but the file I DL'd was a protected blu-ray copy.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:22 PM (O/zHC)

143 A 60-something yr old guy just walking down the street in Boston the other night was beaten and kicked and stomped by kids. It's on video.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile

I think I saw this. The reason you might not hear about it is that the 60-year old was evidently a gay Latino. The "kids" were...well, turning their lives around. Oh, and he was stomped to death.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:22 PM (VNfwt)

144
Also, what does 'Unable to Mount' mean?

That's bad, but there are pills you can take for it.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 29, 2019 03:23 PM (7rVsF)

145 I think I saw this. The reason you might not hear about it is that the 60-year old was evidently a gay Latino. The "kids" were...well, turning their lives around. Oh, and he was stomped to death.
Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:22 PM (VNfwt)

Geez.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2019 03:23 PM (ycWCI)

146 I was planning on watching The Joker but the file I DL'd was a protected blu-ray copy.

yts

*touches nose*

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:24 PM (yQpMk)

147

The old lady who lived here before me had those Leaf Guard gutters installed. They work as advertised.

But that old bag stole MY bird feeder. I'm still angry about that.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:24 PM (O/zHC)

148
The impact on Mississippi's immigrant community has been devastating.

----

*wide toothy grin*

The term is illegal alien. Everyone else stands to
overcome the devastation brought by this invasion.
Expulsions of illegals should proceed, but on a much larger scale. A hundred thousand a week or so at least. If they self deport, so much the better.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 29, 2019 03:25 PM (t5m5e)

149 It appears the only team that brought it so far has been the Saints

Posted by: A dude in MI at December 29, 2019 03:25 PM (WhTSP)

150 "Unable to mount" in UNIX means the OS has no clue on how to recognize your drives. Might need a different or updated version with correct drivers.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 03:26 PM (Dzs5s)

151 Grammie needs to step up her game.

Grammie is saving her gin stash so she can root for the Cubbies come Spring Training (only 44 days to go!).

Posted by: Basement Cat at December 29, 2019 03:26 PM (pPNCa)

152 It appears the only team that brought it so far has been the Saints
Posted by: A dude in MI

Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelce beg to differ.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:26 PM (VNfwt)

153 The Times refers to Americans who immigrated legally as "non-immigrant workers". Also green card holders.

Their ideology won't even let them use accurate language.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 29, 2019 03:27 PM (Ndje9)

154 141 A job I hate is cleaning my gutters. 53 degrees here in lovely Crook County and with near an inch of rain coming I thought I should get to it. You know you're getting old when climbing up and down a ladder kicks your ass.
Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:22 PM (K22Va)

I put in cheap gutter guards, they help some

still got to do a yearly clean out

most of mine are only at 10 ft maybe 40 or 50 feet of over 20

you probably got a completely 2 story house, all above 20 ft

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:27 PM (rpxSz)

155 The old lady who lived here before me had those Leaf Guard gutters installed. They work as advertised.

I think that option is next, even though I hear they're pricey. They want at least $80 per cleaning around here.

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:27 PM (K22Va)

156 Their ideology won't even let them use accurate language.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives

Ace had a post some time back about this. A Chinese civil war every hundred years or so. Rectification of the language I think.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:29 PM (VNfwt)

157 155 The old lady who lived here before me had those Leaf Guard gutters installed. They work as advertised.

I think that option is next, even though I hear they're pricey. They want at least $80 per cleaning around here.
Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:27 PM (K22Va)
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I pay $90 in the spring and late fall/early winter to have a guy come do it. Not a fan of the ladder.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:29 PM (MVjcR)

158 So anyone have an I pad ?

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:29 PM (rpxSz)

159 The impact on Mississippi's immigrant community has been devastating.

1. So you're telling me, NYT, that losing jobs is devastating to a community? You may be on to something

2. Why are illegals never encouraged to learn to code?

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:30 PM (gHCnG)

160 We have 4 inch gutters currently. One of the projects left to do on the house is to install 6 inch gutters.
I don't like for Mr. H to get up on the roof. It's dangerous.

Posted by: ALH at December 29, 2019 03:30 PM (EpeCy)

161 Why are illegals never encouraged to learn to code?

In NYT's world, brown people are supposed to know their place.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:30 PM (yQpMk)

162
Looks like "Picard" is as bad as we expected.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (O/zHC)

163 158 So anyone have an I pad ?

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:29 PM (rpxSz)
----
I do!

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (MVjcR)

164 I pay $90 in the spring and late fall/early winter to have a guy come do it. Not a fan of the ladder.

I have 3rd floor gutters to get to. I'm not sure how.

Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (gHCnG)

165 Shooter at Texas church taken down by armed church members:
https://tinyurl.com/shzm4e7

Posted by: Bert G at December 29, 2019 03:32 PM (OMsf+)

166 I pay $90 in the spring and late fall/early winter to have a guy come do it. Not a fan of the ladder.
Posted by: Weasel

My last tornado damage, I had those Leaf Guards put on the gutters. They work as advertised.

Posted by: Moon Moon Blutarski at December 29, 2019 03:32 PM (VNfwt)

167 153 The Times refers to Americans who immigrated legally as "non-immigrant workers". Also green card holders.

Their ideology won't even let them use accurate language.
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 29, 2019 03:27 PM (Ndje9)

Allows they to frame the debate as they please.

Actual immigrants who went through the system: not immigrants.

People who refuse to actually be part of the system they supposedly want to reap the benefits of: real immigrants.

It is rhetorical kung-fu that takes advantage of the idea that immigration is vital and beneficial. It also allows them to say that only immigrants are being hurt by the enforcement of immigration controls. It's retarded, but people fall for it.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2019 03:32 PM (ycWCI)

168 Always be armed. Always.

https://tinyurl.com/ucsmq6z

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2019 03:32 PM (cknjq)

169 If your jonesing for Sci-Fi has been a bit flagging after cwatching STD, then Picard won't perk you up.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 03:32 PM (Dzs5s)

170 I think that option is next, even though I hear they're pricey. They want at least $80 per cleaning around here.
Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:27 PM (K22Va)

if you're interested , I'll get the name of the ones I installed

like 3 or 4 bucks for a 4 ft piece

install with a pair of heavy duty shears

just snaps in place

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:33 PM (rpxSz)

171 164 I pay $90 in the spring and late fall/early winter to have a guy come do it. Not a fan of the ladder.

I have 3rd floor gutters to get to. I'm not sure how.
Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (gHCnG)
------
I can do the front and maybe 1/4 of the back myself. It's just way easier to have the gutter guy come out.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:33 PM (MVjcR)

172 I pay $90 in the spring and late fall/early winter to have a guy come do it. Not a fan of the ladder.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:29

Does he carry his own insurance? Liability? Workers Comp?

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 03:33 PM (Dhht7)

173 160
We have 4 inch gutters currently. One of the projects left to do on the house is to install 6 inch gutters.

I have the 6 inchers but I just HAD to plant trees all around the place, including a sycamore that has leaves the size of catchers mitts.

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:34 PM (K22Va)

174

Does he carry his own insurance? Liability? Workers Comp?
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 03:33 PM (Dhht7)
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Yes. It's a company.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:34 PM (MVjcR)

175 138
Is it only blacks who are taking these jobs? I'm uncomfortable with that. And I'm struggling to put into words why.
Posted by: creeper

I can put it into words why. In my experience with the younger crowd today, the "good" white youths (serious about education, have some drive) will ONLY do jobs where they can sit behind a screen and a keyboard 8 hours a day. The bad ones only want to deal and smoke pot or meth.

You can still find some anglo plumbers and electricians, but here in Texas I haven't seen an anglo general construction worker in about a decade now. Same goes for mechanics.

Posted by: Tom Servo at December 29, 2019 03:35 PM (V2Yro)

176
There is some concern about mass deportations resulting in a less vibrant community. Fewer examples of twenty people living in a single-bedroom house. Diminished crowds of men hanging out on public property drinking, urinating, gambling, and poking prostitutes in front of the world. A severe shortage of used diapers discarded in parking lots.

A dark time indeed, approaches.

*wide toothy grin*

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 29, 2019 03:35 PM (t5m5e)

177 I have 3rd floor gutters to get to. I'm not sure how.
Posted by: t-bird at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (gHCnG)

see if Toad is around

you do speak mung

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:35 PM (rpxSz)

178 if you're interested , I'll get the name of the ones I installed

Yes please!

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:36 PM (K22Va)

179 Things appear to be escalating in Iraq.

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2019 03:37 PM (ZLI7S)

180 I do!
Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (MVjcR)

so do you like it

tell me about its features that you think are nice

if you have the time, thank you

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:37 PM (rpxSz)

181 The NY Times has a nostalgic piece looking back on "When NYC was the Capital of American Communism."

It isn't anymore? I guess Seattle, San Fran, and Portland can all make strong cases today.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at December 29, 2019 03:38 PM (RIvx9)

182 Yes please!
Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:36 PM (K22Va)

will do ASAP

think I've still got an extra in the basement

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:38 PM (rpxSz)

183 It also allows them to say that only immigrants are being hurt by the enforcement of immigration controls. It's retarded, but people fall for it. Posted by: Aetius451AD

It reminds me of California's adoption of Obama's Promise Program, the Broward County policy that gave us the Stoneman-Douglas shooting. Coddling violent students hurts all the others who want to learn.

"But this time, it will be different."

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 29, 2019 03:38 PM (Ndje9)

184 Yes. It's a company.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:34

That's good. Although, I've had some companies that couldn't provide Certificates of Insurance. Their bids get pitched.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 03:39 PM (Dhht7)

185 San Francisco, Portland, and Seattle are vying for the title of Caracas el Norte.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 03:39 PM (Dzs5s)

186
It's sad to see Terry Bradshaw become a clown for money.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:41 PM (O/zHC)

187 It's sad to see Terry Bradshaw become a clown for money.

Watching Cannonball Run again?

https://youtu.be/QsdalaJwZSY

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 03:43 PM (Dzs5s)

188 It's sad to see Terry Bradshaw become a clown for money.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:41 PM (O/zHC)

become

Posted by: weirdflunky at December 29, 2019 03:43 PM (cknjq)

189 Am I the only one when he sees 'Broward' first sight read it as 'Bro'-ward?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at December 29, 2019 03:43 PM (ycWCI)

190
It reminds me of California's adoption of Obama's Promise Program, the Broward County policy that gave us the Stoneman-Douglas shooting. Coddling violent students hurts all the others who want to learn.

"But this time, it will be different."
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 29, 2019 03:38 PM (Ndje9)

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It also led to the death of burglar and drug dealer Trayvon Martin, killed in self defense as he attempted to commit murder by slamming a man's head into a sidewalk. He'd been "diverted" from prosecution, i.e. from getting what was coming to him. Result: he got what was coming to him.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 29, 2019 03:44 PM (t5m5e)

191 180 I do!
Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:31 PM (MVjcR)

so do you like it

tell me about its features that you think are nice

if you have the time, thank you
Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:37 PM (rpxSz)
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I do like it. It's a lot quicker than a pc since there isn't a mechanical hard drive, and the portability is a huge plus. It's great for things like posting here. It does take some getting used to, though.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:44 PM (MVjcR)

192 I have the 6 inchers but I just HAD to plant trees all around the place, including a sycamore that has leaves the size of catchers mitts.
Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:34 PM (K22Va)

We have had a lot of pine trees cut down in the past 10 years. Pines break easily and can do some serious damage if they fall on your house.

Posted by: ALH at December 29, 2019 03:45 PM (EpeCy)

193 These days, I look at a job and ask myself how much will that cost if I fuck it or myself up.

That $170/year to get gutters cleaned and keep me off of a ladder seems like an okay deal.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:46 PM (kfNIA)

194 $180, sorry.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:47 PM (kfNIA)

195 193 These days, I look at a job and ask myself how much will that cost if I fuck it or myself up.

That $170/year to get gutters cleaned and keep me off of a ladder seems like an okay deal.
Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:46 PM (kfNIA)
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*fistbump*

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:47 PM (MVjcR)

196 African Americans have to vote for Democrats because:

1. They voted for Democrats in the past.
2. Republicans are evil.
3. The Democrats are the party of Abortion.
4. Something...something...civil rights.

Therefore, it is not necessary for the Democrats to do anything beneficial for the African Americans to maintain their vote.

The Democrats can, instead, concentrate on the Hispanic and Muslim illegal immigrant 'vote'.

African Americans? I am sorry but the Eighties called and they want their Democratic Voter Pandering back.

Posted by: JB1000 at December 29, 2019 03:47 PM (tJOXi)

197 Leaf Guard gutters do work as advertised.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 03:47 PM (ZS+GP)

198 You know it would almost seem like perverting the language so the act of illegally entering the country and scamming our welfare system is considered a right, might lead to other acts* that most civilized people would view as crimes, being considered primarily as benefits of strength through diversity!

Nah, that's just crazy talk!

*such as rape, child molestation, theft, drunk driving, assault, murder, and drug trafficking ...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 03:48 PM (BiNEL)

199 These days, I look at a job and ask myself how much will that cost if I fuck it or myself up.

That $170/year to get gutters cleaned and keep me off of a ladder seems like an okay deal.
Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:46 PM (kfNIA)
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*fistbump*
Posted by: Weasel

Exactly this.

Posted by: Infidel at December 29, 2019 03:48 PM (MTxDQ)

200 197
Leaf Guard gutters do work as advertised.

That's the brand name that you install yourself, correct?

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:48 PM (K22Va)

201 That $170/year to get gutters cleaned and keep me off of a ladder seems like an okay deal.
Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:46 PM (kfNIA)

194 $180, sorry.
Posted by: jsg

Act NOW !

Before the price goes up again !

Posted by: JT at December 29, 2019 03:49 PM (arJlL)

202
Blacks vote for Democrats because they're both racists.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:49 PM (O/zHC)

203 I wanted to inmagrate to the future...got sent back for robot violance.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 29, 2019 03:50 PM (lNipR)

204 I think the solid gutter guards work well but they're expensive to install. At one time I had the steel mesh type which seemed to snag and hold a lot of leaves so I took them off.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:50 PM (MVjcR)

205
Act NOW !

Before the price goes up again !
Posted by: JT at December 29, 2019 03:49 PM (arJlL)

Heh. Had 80 & 90 in my head for some reason.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:50 PM (kfNIA)

206
https://www.leafguard.com/why-its-better

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:50 PM (O/zHC)

207 Speaking of science fiction.

In less than three years Sword Art Online will go live and trap 10,000 people in virtual reality. By the time the game is cleared, only 6.147 will log out alive.

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 03:50 PM (Dzs5s)

208 Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:48 PM (K22Va)

the name is SHEERFLOW

3 ft section

think I got it at the local tru value

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:50 PM (rpxSz)

209
Patriots are gonna lose this game.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 03:51 PM (O/zHC)

210 We just attacked 5 Hezbollah (Iranian proxies) bases, 3 in Iraq and 2 in Syria.

https://tinyurl.com/ugxmsug

Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2019 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

211 200 197
Leaf Guard gutters do work as advertised.

That's the brand name that you install yourself, correct?

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:48 PM (K22Va)

They came with the house. They appear to be standard gutters with an expanded metal cover.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (ZS+GP)

212
African Americans? I am sorry but the Eighties called and they want their Democratic Voter Pandering back.
Posted by: JB1000

Starting next school year, it will be illegal for public schools in California to suspend students in first through fifth grade for willfully defying teachers or administrators.

Then, from 2021 through 2025, it will be temporarily extended to kids in grades six through eight.

Supporters say suspensions for willful defiance are disproportionately used against students of color.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (aKsyK)

213 Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 03:44 PM (MVjcR)

there are diff models

when I look at them, maybe you can advise

I have a chromebook and it sucks

of course I buy them on EBAY for $90 so wut the fuck

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (rpxSz)

214 These days, I look at a job and ask myself how much will that cost if I fuck it or myself up.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:46 PM (kfNIA)

Had a friend in the Elder care business.

A patient of his was a cheapskate par excellante (according to my friend). Fell off a ladder (would't hire a roofer) and broke both legs and then some ribs or his shoulder when the roofing supplies also slid off and landed on him.

In rehab over 6 months and cursed them out every day since he didn't want to spend the money.

Posted by: Adriane the Community Organizer Critic ... at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (LPnfS)

215 Ryan Fitzpatrick. I predict an INT or a fumble.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (kfNIA)

216 First game I played in early 2000's:

Redneck Rampage

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (lNipR)

217 The Horror of It All!

Posted by: redc1c4 at December 29, 2019 03:54 PM (KEX6Y)

218 NBC News fact checker doesn't condemn machete hacking of five Jews saying that it is "complicated" but knows that white supremacy is at fault.

https://bit.ly/39pI8Yc

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 29, 2019 03:54 PM (+y/Ru)

219 The comments on that Irreversible Canada article are funny, yet typical of the genre.

I really did like this reply to a climate troll: 'Ok doomer'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 03:55 PM (yQpMk)

220 158 So anyone have an I pad ?

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:29 PM (rpxSz)

Yes, I find it less flexible for text formatting but very handy for checking up on things, and great for travel.
I do recommend the DuckDuckGo browser on the iPad, a little quirky, but you get used to it.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 03:55 PM (BiNEL)

221 the name is SHEERFLOW

Thank you sir! or madam!

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:55 PM (K22Va)

222 Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:48 PM (K22Va)

Just searched Sheerflow on EBAY

nice panties

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:55 PM (rpxSz)

223 OK I was wrong.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:56 PM (kfNIA)

224 lol

Posted by: dartist at December 29, 2019 03:56 PM (K22Va)

225
CNN headline: "The case for letting senators vote secretly on Trump's fate"

They're losing and know they're losing.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 29, 2019 03:56 PM (7rVsF)

226 Of course the school and other students will pay of this Leftist nonsense but will they care later or just come up with more skeins?

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 03:56 PM (ZCEU2)

227 Love my Chromebook except for the yuge Matrix type head jack.

Posted by: Humphreyrobot at December 29, 2019 03:56 PM (lNipR)

228 In rehab over 6 months and cursed them out every day since he didn't want to spend the money.
Posted by: Adriane the Community Organizer Critic ... at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (LPnfS)

A man has to know his limitations.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:56 PM (kfNIA)

229 Yes, I find it less flexible for text formatting but very handy for checking up on things, and great for travel.
I do recommend the DuckDuckGo browser on the iPad, a little quirky, but you get used to it.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 03:55 PM (BiNEL)

and it doesn't have phone capacity, right

Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:57 PM (rpxSz)

230 Patriots are gonna lose this game.

Blame it on Bellechek's moobs !

Posted by: JT at December 29, 2019 03:57 PM (arJlL)

231 Who is Bob Price at Breitbart Texas.

His beat seems to be the border. He never, ever says illegals, instead he always uses the word migrant.

That's a Mendoza line for me. When you refuse to use the term for something, but attempt to obscure it with a more benign term, you aren't with "us". He uses a term out of the progressives play book every time. Yet he's a regular contributor over there.

I have a feeling if he had written that linked story, if would have been heaping praise on the NAACP's take on the situation.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 29, 2019 03:58 PM (VYwSh)

232 "Picture perfect pass from Ryan Fitzpatrick"

Better frame that.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:58 PM (kfNIA)

233 230 hopefully

Posted by: Skip at December 29, 2019 03:59 PM (ZCEU2)

234 Adriane the Community Organizer Critic ...

I KNEW you wouldn't run outta nics......

Posted by: JT at December 29, 2019 03:59 PM (arJlL)

235 Posted by: JackStraw at December 29, 2019 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

Doesn't PDJT remember we have a deal with Iran that was supposed to extend to Iranian proxies!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 03:59 PM (BiNEL)

236 Pats have 24 seconds, or 2 minutes in Dolphin time.

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 03:59 PM (kfNIA)

237 Chromebook is android/Alphabet/google; iPad is Apple. iPad is slick and as far as a can tell not as invasive (unless you allow it) as android.

It's easy to post but it's concept of pages, note taking, copying, keeping tabs open is out of this world.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 03:59 PM (ZS+GP)

238 FOOD NOOD

Posted by: Skip, the guy who says NOOD at December 29, 2019 04:01 PM (ZCEU2)

239
Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (rpxSz)
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Here's the one I have:
https://tinyurl.com/s2s4m3n

They're cheaper without the SMS option, but it works everywhere I go. This is my second one, is several years old, and works just fine.

Posted by: Weasel at December 29, 2019 04:01 PM (MVjcR)

240 Doesn't PDJT remember we have a deal with Iran that was supposed to extend to Iranian proxies!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 03:59 PM (BiNEL)

Gordon Chang was on Bartiromo this morning talking about build ups, alliances, and 1914.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 04:01 PM (ZS+GP)

241 and it doesn't have phone capacity, right
Posted by: REDACTED at December 29, 2019 03:57 PM (rpxSz)

Mine does not, and I don't that's an option; however, I can accept calls or FaceTime/Skype on the iPad if I've linked it to my iPhone

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 04:02 PM (BiNEL)

242 Packers tied it up. 3:30min left in 4th. Looks like Lions are going to punt.

Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 29, 2019 04:02 PM (Dhht7)

243 Amazon is a certified iPad seller. You may be able to beat Apple's pricing by $100.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 04:03 PM (ZS+GP)

244 23 14 The NAACP supports illegal immigration?

Oddest thing, so does the Sierra Club.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 29, 2019 02:22 PM (yQpMk)

As do all other Communist front groups. St. Greta of Cabbage Patch recently weighed in on "racist, sexist, homophobic, Islamophobic patriarchal systems of oppression."

Nope, no Communist influence there. Nosir.
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And I've been using St. Greta the Hateful. I may steal this.

Posted by: Groundhog at December 29, 2019 04:03 PM (VYwSh)

245
Patriots looked like they didn't care the whole game.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 04:04 PM (O/zHC)

246 Dolphins beat the Patriots. In Foxboro.

Posted by: Vendette at December 29, 2019 04:04 PM (un8gM)

247 of color.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 29, 2019 03:53 PM (aKsyK)

So we're back to "colored people". It's all too stupid.

Posted by: CN at December 29, 2019 04:04 PM (U7k5w)

248 Miami Dolphins win the Flint Michigan Megabowl !

Posted by: jsg at December 29, 2019 04:04 PM (kfNIA)

249 239 correctly updates my 241 comment

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 04:04 PM (BiNEL)

250 1914?

Who got whacked?

Whom did he accuse of being the Kaiser?

Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 04:05 PM (Dzs5s)

251 Posted by: CN at December 29, 2019 04:04 PM (U7k5w)

But, People of Color is so much more inclusive!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at December 29, 2019 04:05 PM (BiNEL)

252 And the Patriots' result just became known in KC. Chiefs get the bye.

Posted by: Vendette at December 29, 2019 04:06 PM (un8gM)

253 Posted by: Anna Puma at December 29, 2019 04:05 PM (Dzs5s)

He was speaking of now and the Russians and Chinese ships in Iranian waters and lil Kim riding his white horse.

Posted by: Braenyard at December 29, 2019 04:11 PM (ZS+GP)

254 Packers win ugly, as usual.

Posted by: lowandslow at December 29, 2019 04:34 PM (4thlk)

255 It also led to the death of burglar and drug dealer Trayvon Martin, killed in self defense as he attempted to commit murder by slamming a man's head into a sidewalk. He'd been "diverted" from prosecution, i.e. from getting what was coming to him. Result: he got what was coming to him. Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug

Yes, Hug-a-Thug was also adopted by Miami-Dade as well as Broward. Now NYC and all California. Martin was shipped out of Miami to Central Florida because his breaking and entering habit was hurting the crime stats of Democrat officials. Their policy killed him--but they kept their precious stats.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at December 29, 2019 05:42 PM (Ndje9)

256 I wonder if some day I will see Af Am or white guys on construction sites again.
Good luck to them!

Posted by: PJ at December 29, 2019 06:43 PM (qlTN9)

257 We need to not only enforce immigration laws, but, I will say it again: WE NEED EXIT VISAS. (To make sure people are following the immigration laws and leaving when they say they are, and so on.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 29, 2019 08:38 PM (Yfuhb)

258 81 The GOP is always being led and fooled by the "demographics" and figure it makes sense to follow the Democrats towards the left, but moderately.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 29, 2019 02:52 PM (O/zHC)

I have never understood this argument. It's idiotic. Assuming that groups of people will vote the same way forever is just foolish. It is the same thinking which made the GOP throw up its hands and whine in despair initially in 2016, and drove HRC to not campaign in WI, MI and PA because "Oh well, they are blue states, and they will be that way forever, because once you vote blue, that's it." They were all shocked when the WI, MI and PA electoral votes all went to Trump.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at December 29, 2019 08:42 PM (Yfuhb)

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