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Pomposity? Insularity? Elitism? Take Your Pick! It's A NYT Trifecta Of Assholishness
Wine is a beverage, meant to be drunk and enjoyed. It isn't a virtue-signalling device or a talisman to ward off yahoos who drink beer and shoot guns. And a big reason why wine is better than ever is modern technology, modern farming techniques, and tremendous improvements in wine making. That is driven by the (relatively) free market in wine, which allows producers to satisfy particular demands without onerous regulations.
The proof is in the bottle, not on the label. If the wine tastes good and is priced for the perceived quality, people will buy, and labels be damned. But that's not good enough for the vaunted NYT, which has never seen a mass-market product it doesn't love to mock. Is Natural Wine Dead?By now pretty much everyone on earth, save for those caught in a Yellow Tail time warp, has heard of "natural" wine. Made from organically grown grapes, with nothing added or taken away, these wines are no passing fad. They are a return to authenticity.Authenticity? That's crap. Winemakers have been using whatever they can to make their wines taste good. And if that means adding some extra sulfites or some sugar if the grapes aren't perfectly ripe or herbicides and insecticides to increase the quality and yield in the vineyards, then that is fine with me. In reality, the issue isn't businessmen trying to take advantage of a niche market to make some money, it is that the NYT has to separate themselves and their pseudo-elite readers from the unwashed masses, and one great way is to create controversies such as this to give themselves another way to draw a big bright line between them and us. And yes...it is "us." You know, the people who buy wine because it tastes good, and don't really give a rat's ass whether it is "natural," or "biodynamic," or has a Gaia-loving esthetic among its winemakers. "Natural Wine" means exactly nothing. A lot of those vineyards would be dead and gone if it weren't for modern viticultural and wine-making techniques. It's a marketing tool designed to attract exactly the kind of people who write and read the NYT, and has very little to do with the quality of wine in the bottle. Sure, some "natural" wines are good, just as some mass-market wines are good. But there are plenty of crappy "natural" or "organic" wines that taste like spoiled grape juice filtered through a hobo's sock, but they command a market and a price premium precisely because pompous asshats at the NYT tout them as something special. They specialize in linking banal, everyday events and products with some heightened sense of the world around us, as if the bottle of wine one drinks or the toilet paper one uses to wipe one's ass is in some way imbued with special powers to bring one closer to...something. Anything. As long as it isn't one of us.
With the world perched on the verge of multiple disasters, the battle to defend natural wine might seem to be an elitist fool's errand. We all eat, but we don't all drink, so not everyone connects with the idea of wine as an enduring, magical symbol of humanity. But that's in part the appeal, to me, of natural wine -- as a pure expression of honesty, nutrition, culture, poetry and connection to land, the recognition that each wine comes from a different place.Wow...I have to give the writer credit, that is pompous, elitist, insular, with a soupçon of stupidity and ignorance all wrapped up in one short paragraph.
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:20 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (X/Pw5)
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (T09ml)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (BqBId)
@RudyGiuliani
In my next thread of tweets I will be sharing some of the evidence I have garnered through hundreds of hours of research. Turn notifications on & stay tuned.
******
This is gonna get good
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 12:22 PM (BqBId)
But for them, it wouldn't be a return, it would be doing it for the first time....
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (IttZ7)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Gork at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (VmQ66)
You can't discuss wine intelligently without throwing around the word "terroir."
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (X/Pw5)
This is news?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM (hku12)
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Heh.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (RU4sa)
Insects and plant diseases, don't you know.
Because sustainable.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (T09ml)
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (X/Pw5)
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Barefoot, organically-raised French farm girls.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (ZCEU2)
It's all a crock of Schiff
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 12:26 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (ZCEU2)
I'd never heard of it.
I guess my luck was bound to run out sometime.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:21 PM (X/Pw5)
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Barefoot, organically-raised French farm girls.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:25 PM (XVuno)
With yellow vests in their trunks?
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Old Dude at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (LGXGf)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (9Om/r)
"Yes, Madam, we pride ourselves on providing you the most "authentic" experience possible."
"Well, OK." *bites down on toenail, chews uncertainly*
"Um, Yes, it's quite good."
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (IttZ7)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (pNm1M)
What could be more civilized?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (jp0Bv)
Posted by: Gork at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM
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Spencer Trappist beer. Unfiltered and delicious.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (T09ml)
Bank teller steals 88 grand from bank, posts on social media
https://tinyurl.com/yx5qtrjb
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (RU4sa)
Is a soupcon some kind of skiploader?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (pNm1M)
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I'd never heard of it.
I guess my luck was bound to run out sometime.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pNm1M)
Yes, pretentious twittery always makes it out here to the hinterlands eventually.
Occasionally... not often, but sometimes, when a "trend" is popular on the coasts, we get caught up in it way too early for their tastes, and that ruins it for the coasties.
I kinda like that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (hku12)
Now where is my Grey Poupon?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (ZCEU2)
*******
Yep Anheuser-Busch makes Redbridge, Stella Artois is GF too
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (hku12)
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (fS3vz)
Posted by: Gork at December 15, 2019 12:23 PM
Yes. aka, Natty Light. Ask any college kid.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (Dhht7)
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WTF is 'natural' wine?
Some of us aren't wine snobs.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019
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Which reminds me: NEVER buy eggs from free-range chickens.
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Why?
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Because they're runny.
Posted by: TANSTAAFL at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (T09ml)
She says "Natural" wine is bunch of shit. More important is the micro climate weather where the grapes are grown.
Oh and another thing, 85% of wine are blended from many growers grapes so She and I do not understand the bullshit the bullshit fake news is trying to peddle.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 12:33 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: washrivergal at December 15, 2019 12:33 PM (XtntB)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (jp0Bv)
Here, hold our dirty stank-footed wine...
Posted by: Anti-Vaxxers at December 15, 2019 12:33 PM (hku12)
Replace all uses of "elitist" with 'pretentious twat'.
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (8DvH0)
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (RU4sa)
Occasionally... not often, but sometimes, when a "trend" is popular on the coasts, we get caught up in it way too early for their tastes, and that ruins it for the coasties.
I kinda like that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (hku12)
It would be SO much fun to deflate these snobs by saying, "Oh yes, that began in Kansas. So it's finally made its way to Manhattan?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (pNm1M)
One must do one's civet doody.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (qc+VF)
Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (d9Cw3)
Replace all uses of "elitist" with 'pretentious twat'.
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (8DvH0)
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Elitist is shorter.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (RU4sa)
===PRETWATIST?
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)
Get yourself a fedora. I hear that helps.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (8DvH0)
When I first left the Army and went into private practice, in a town I won't name but that rhymes with Ban Fantonio, the rival practice group in town tried to either co-opt me or intimidate me. Their lead cardiologist and their CT surgeon invited me to dinner at their private club (no wives, just the boys). The surgeon was a rich boy dilettante whose daddy was a big-name heart surgeon in a nearby capital city that I won't name but rhymes with Faustin. The other guy was a former Army doc like me and known to me as a big dweeb.
They were playing the snobbery card pretty hard. So when the waiter took our drink orders and both of them had looked at the wine list and were touting the merits of this or that wine, I requested a Radler (half beer and half lemonade). Of course I had to explain how to make it. They were visibly aghast. I enjoyed a nice enough meal and thanked them, then never looked back.
It helped that I have never appreciated wine and actually DO prefer the citrus-y taste of a Radler.
If you decide to try this, be sure to do something reverse snobbish and specify that it be made with only authentic Czech pilsner and California free-range lemons or somesuch.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)
Why do women always leave me for total smegheads? Why do they dump me
for men who wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a pipe? I mean, natural
yoghurt eaters! Reliable, sensible, dependable, and lots of other words
that end in "-ible." He's obsessed with house-prices, and spends half
his life in antique fairs looking for bargains and drinking wine. It's
never beer, is it, it's always wine! "What do you want on your
cornflakes, darling?" "Oh, I'll have some wine, please!" Smeg!
Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)
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Get yourself a manbun.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (9Om/r)
Not cheap..."inexpensive"....ya heathen.
Posted by: BignJames at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (X/Pw5)
Elitist is shorter."
Yes, but it implies there's something elite in play, in lieu of any supporting evidence.
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (8DvH0)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (m45I2)
Why do they dump me for men who wear turtleneck sweaters and smoke a
pipe?
Posted by: Lister at December 15, 2019 12:32 PM (38jed)
You need to shop in a different store, not Boring Bitches R Us.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:38 PM (9Om/r)
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I will sell no wine, before its time.
Posted by: Ernest Gallo at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:35 PM (hku12)
Get yourself a manbun.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (pw+jk)
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Get yourself a red onesie and a mug of hot chocolate and some hipster glasses. Can't. miss.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (/669Q)
Up next: hobo jerk socks.
Posted by: Gooshy at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (LNIqw)
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I'd never heard of it.
I guess my luck was bound to run out sometime.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:27 PM (pNm1M)
I'd never heard of it either, and I turn my nose up at Yellow Tail. (Not to sniff it). We all have to consider ourselves above something, right?
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (NMAzL)
Didn't think so.
Animals. They're animals.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (1glZx)
Occasionally... not often, but sometimes, when a "trend" is popular on the coasts, we get caught up in it way too early for their tastes, and that ruins it for the coasties.
I kinda like that.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:30 PM (hku12)
It would be SO much fun to deflate these snobs by saying, "Oh yes, that began in Kansas. So it's finally made its way to Manhattan?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (pNm1M)
I think you just described memes.
Memes originate virtually anywhere, and then eventually the cultural snobs get their hands on them. Sometimes even turn them into teevee commercials, which is a sure sign a meme has been dead for some time.
Which is why the ee-eww banned them, and why Youtube is trying desperately to kill itself deader than a poor Jap bastard in a Logan Paul video.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (hku12)
With milk or dry?
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at December 15, 2019 12:39 PM (NMAzL)
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Indeed. We're all above dirt so as far as I'm concerned we're in tall cotton.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (fS3vz)
I was once invited to a wine-tasting in SF. Before the festivities began, I was subjected to the Super Bowl of wine snobbery. ("Oh, I recently has this divine Bordeaux." "Hmm. That year was over-rated. You should have had ...")
The doyen then appeared, pontificated for a while, and then proceeded to put the various bottles of expensive wine in brown paper bags (I stifled a chuckle) and began the tasting.
Afterwards he and all of the faithful agreed that one was clearly superior to all the others, and with a flourish, he pulled out a bottle of ... Chateau Ripple. I guess last week was a good year.
He mumbled something about the expensive wines being corked, but ... nah, bro.
I laughed out loud. Needless to say, I was never invited back. Which suited me just fine.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (pNm1M)
Anyone else see the meme of the elderly (D) leaders announcing their impeachment follies with the State they are from above their heads?
NY and CA only.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (MIKMs)
I recall a story from a while back -- possibly apocryphal and I'm too lazy to check -- about some scandal where someone entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue ribbon.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (qc+VF)
*******
You should be thankful. Her goal was to turn you into a smeghead, she just got impatient and took a shortcut.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Drew in MO at December 15, 2019 12:42 PM (cGlgB)
Posted by: irongrampa at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (KATBx)
Didn't think so.
Animals. They're animals.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (Y4EXg)
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We have not the time to dive into their ignorance of the importance of a good label. By which I mean pretty, or funny, or clever.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (XVuno)
simpler time. A time when most children died, when slavery was prevalent
throughout the world and the Lord of the Manor could have his way with
the peasant wench of his choice without all this #metoo hubbub.
What could be more civilized?
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 12:29 PM (jp0Bv)
The criticism is that a lot of the people with media presence want to go back to the Stewarts.
And, hey! With Brexit and the threatened Scottish independence, they may yet have their window!
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (1glZx)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (38jed)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:36
Heh. Great story. Must do this.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:44 PM (Dhht7)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (38jed)
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*fistbump*
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 12:44 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:43 PM (XVuno)
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Move here! After years of being told that we MUST recycle everything we possibly can, we are now being told that glass is no longer being accepted for recycling and we must put it in our trash.
Word is that China was buying our glass to recyle, and they no longer are. So guess what - it's no longer a priority here.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (/669Q)
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Yes, but it implies there's something elite in play, in lieu of any supporting evidence.
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (8DvH0)
Same with "intellectual." It looks like it implies intelligence, so some people think it's a compliment.
Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (hku12)
If it's good, I'll see it for myself. No need to really tell me anything at all - except for where I can get it, if I ask.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (Y8OTr)
Posted by: LGoPs the former boyscout who now shouts Broken Arrow!, Broken Arrow! at December 15, 2019 12:31 PM (fS3vz)
Trust me, in the Venn diagram of wine snobs and horse-and-stable owners, the intersectionality looks like a giant anus.
Posted by: Kindltot at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (1glZx)
began in Kansas. So it's finally made its way to Manhattan?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:34 PM (pNm1M)
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FUN FACT
Almost all French wine can be traced back to cuttings that came from... wait for it... TEXAS.
France's wine vines all had a disease and died. Vines brought over from Texas are what French wine is made from.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (pw+jk)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (KP5rU)
The term was popularized by (maybe invented by?) the British sci-fi comedy show "Red Dwarf."
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (qc+VF)
But I do take an interest in writing and wonder why it was absolutely guaranteed someone writing about natural wine would be a smug, pompous, elitist asshole.
Could someone write about NW with being a pompous asshole?
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (Uu+Jp)
As of them put it: "You lose your desire for "naturalness" really quick." The grapes for almost every vintage are going to be inadequate in some way, so you introduce outside chemicals (sugar, sulphur) to fix the inadequacies.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (I2/tG)
I had to switch to box wine because it was so embarrassing the way the recycle can jingled when I put it out on trash day.
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Small town here and my recycle guy always asks who was visiting when my recycle cans are overflowing.
Posted by: mustbequantum at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (MIKMs)
You can never go wrong with Apple Boones Farm as a breakfast wine.
Posted by: lowandslow at December 15, 2019 12:46 PM (4thlk)
Cecil Terwilliger: Now make yourself at home. Perhaps a glass of Bordeaux? I have the '82 Chateau Latour and a rather indifferent Rausan-Segla.
Sideshow Bob: I've been in prison, Cecil. I'll be happy just as long as it doesn't taste like orange drink fermented under a radiator.
Cecil Terwilliger: That would be the Latour, then
Posted by: I am the Shadout Mapes - the Housekeeper at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (IttZ7)
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (OX9vb)
While attempting to be light with a touch of citrus and herb, this elitist punches above its weight and fails miserably.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:36 PM (m45I2)
I was having lunch with some friends on the bayside deck at Club Chi-Chi in Marin County. Everyone around us was outdoing each other with their exotic drink orders for water ("I'll the sparkling melted glacier water with a twist of organic Chilean lime." That sort of thing.)
My turn came. "I'll have a Perrier and soda."
Nobody laughed. Nobody.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:47 PM (pNm1M)
apocryphal and I'm too lazy to check -- about some scandal where someone
entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue
ribbon.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (qc+VF)
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Now that it is Tree Buck Chuck it must taste 50% better. Three Buck Chuck for the crushing win!!
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:48 PM (pw+jk)
My first house had a peach tree in the yard. Yea, free peaches. When I told my parents, they just laughed.
Posted by: nerdygirl at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (+lVUW)
Posted by: Les Kinetic at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (+fPHo)
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:48 PM (pw+jk)
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Peasant. Around here it's Four-Buck Chuck.
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (/669Q)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45
Heh. They stopped recycling glass here several yrs ago when they got rid of trashmen and purchased automated trash truck picker-uppers. The recycle can is twice the size of our trash can.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (Dhht7)
Yep - Bangladeshi peasants, Siberian miners, and Kenyan cattle herders are all anxiously discussing the pros and cons of "natural" wine.
The Steinberg poster showing how insular New Yorkers are was intended to be a joke.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (hku12)
__________________
Not sure why that reminds me of this, but it does:
"Read the [Mueller] Report!!!"
Asks for citation directly from the report.
"Russian bot!"
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:50 PM (8DvH0)
Posted by: Anna Puma at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (FP0mT)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (HALdu)
Didn't think so.
Animals. They're animals.
Posted by: Tonypete at December 15, 2019 12:40 PM (Y4EXg)
Some idiot with a book about saving the planet was exposed for the fact that his/her/its book was wrapped in planet killing plastic.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (JFO2v)
France's wine vines all had a disease and died. Vines brought over from Texas are what French wine is made from.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (pw+jk)
I believe that that was California, actually. In fairness, it wasn't the whole vine, but rather the root and stem, onto which the French vines were grafted, because the imported roots and stems were resistant to the phylloxera that had devastated French vineyards.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (pNm1M)
Dems worry about "foreign interference" in elections.
Tomorrow, NY starts issuing drivers licenses to illegal immigrants where people are one check box away from registration.
The People's Republic of New Jersey is right behind them in doing so
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:52 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 15, 2019 12:52 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 12:52 PM (H8QX8)
*******
Ha!
With a splash of Aquafina.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 12:51 PM (m45I2)
Shaken, not stirred.
Nobody appreciated my comedic efforts. I was so disappointed.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: henry at December 15, 2019 12:54 PM (J3Rfi)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (KP5rU)
No alcohol consumption at all here, but I used to like Missouri wines. Dry whites, in particular.
I'm no connoisseur, but compared to Californican chardonnays that tasted like buttered wood, the Missouri stuff was great.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (hku12)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)
And never forget, it isn't NYT articles like this that intend to be divisive, its #OrangeManBad
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: bluebell
(starts singing......)
"Oh, jingetty jing....its Dominic the Donk"ey.....
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45 PM (/669Q)
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Nearly all of recycling is a big scam. The industry "processes" most materials in exchange for subsidies from the state, which is where recycling companies make their money. The waste material itself is fobbed off on foreign companies who are often paid to take it, a strategy that is economically feasible only because westbound shipping rates are incredibly cheap on otherwise empty containers headed to Asia. Once the waste gets to its destination, most of it is unceremoniously dumped into landfills. Recycled!
And Gaia weeps.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (XVuno)
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 12:28 PM (9Om/r)
Same here. We typically drink it from a box, and I ain't ashamed to say so. It's really the only economical way to drink as much wine as we do. Heh.
I really love Vina Borgia Garnacha, but it's not readily available. Our second choice, which is our House Wine, is Franzia Pinot Noir Carmenere. For the price, it is very pleasant. And Franzia donates to Fisher House, so I don't have to worry about them being too woke.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (OX9vb)
Of course, the populist president is a billionaire developer from New Yawk. That infuriates them, too.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (38jed)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)
No yellowtail is not about Japanese hookers!
Posted by: rhennigantx at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (JFO2v)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (TdMsT)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)
entered Two Buck Chuck in a prestigious tasting and it won the blue
ribbon.
The genius of the Gallo family is that they figured out how to make the world's best plonk out of grapes grown in nontrendy places like Modesto, and yes, Gallo does occasionally beat expensive French wines in blind taste tests.
Ernest and Julio Gallo make more wine than the Napa Valley.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)
Yellowtail, the untold story of Korean-American fighter pilots in the Franco-Prussian war.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (hku12)
Posted by: don_in_central_jersey at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (UPDS7)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 12:55 PM (ZCEU2)
So there is no surprise version.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Bert G at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (OMsf+)
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (vPKfA)
Alcohol ages people.
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (lD3vL)
You started it first.
Posted by: Al Cohall at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Ladyl at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (TdMsT)
The Gallo of Australia. The guy who founded Yellowtail died a while back.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:53 PM (HALdu)
Yellow Tail is an Australian wine company that makes very inexpensive varietals that are perfectly good, simple drinking wines. Are they great? No, but they sure are aggressively priced, and I wouldn't turn a glass down.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (wYseH)
Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.
...
Burt TC, ever read Thomas Sowell's Intellectuals and Society?
Posted by: squeakywheel at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (51Wdw)
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (IttZ7)
Posted by: JT at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (arJlL)
I don't drink myself. That leaves more for the status-anxious wine moms who do what the Times tells them to.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (7rVsF)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (KP5rU)
According to the Simpsons
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 12:57 PM (vPKfA)
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Dogs love antifreeze wine, so I've heard.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (XVuno)
Mind you I don't fault them for that because wine is a crap shoot and you have no idea what you are going to get until you start drinking.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 12:59 PM (HALdu)
Price just increases your chances of a good bottle but no means guarantees that.
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:01 PM (ZCEU2)
1. Wayne's rant at the stuttering kid who couldn't spit out that the other kid was knocked off his horse in the river was intact, "You little snot-nosed crybaby, you either get yourself under control and stop y9ur pathetic sniveling (etc. etc.)" right up until the word 'hell' was dropped. Ironic.
2. The black cook is named Nightlinger, and for the first time ever it occurred to me what you get if you leave out the middle five letters. Made me wonder if the writers did that on purpose as a little inside joke or if it was purely coincidental.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:01 PM (m45I2)
Yellow Tail is an Australian wine company that makes very inexpensive varietals that are perfectly good, simple drinking wines. Are they great? No, but they sure are aggressively priced, and I wouldn't turn a glass down.
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (wYseH)
Thanks. Are they one of the ones that advertise on TV?
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:02 PM (HALdu)
And Gaia weeps.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:56 PM (XVuno)
Penn and Teller have a nice episode of their Bulls**t series on recycling.
Best part is, if you add up all the landfill that exists in this country, you'd fill up about 1/10,000 of the whole of Kansas with it.
Not only that, landfills tend to be... filled with land. So not doing any dirty polluting that is done by buildings and roads. Just grass and flowers and trees and other greenery. Grass don't care that it's sitting on top of soupcons.... eh, I mean soup cans.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:02 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:02 PM (U7voe)
When the lower classes have access to goods once considered luxury then those goods have to be disparaged by RightThinkers and new categories defined.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (7rVsF)
Had a neighbor who had one. Little bastard barked constantly. Very annoying.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy. Life is pain. at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (HaL55)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (zBaqJ)
It's utter bullshit.
Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (3BoiW)
Or was it here?
Nobody reads the content
Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (vPKfA)
When the lower classes have access to goods once considered luxury then those goods have to be disparaged by RightThinkers and new categories defined.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (7rVsF)
And this is the reason the Scoldilocks brigades want to ban air travel.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (zBaqJ)
It wouldn't surprise me since Two Buck Chuck is deliberately engineered to sell and such will be altered, for as long it fits a price point, to be agreeable.
From what I gather from the "natural wine", you get whatever came up with minimum interference.
Intelligent Design Win !
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (lD3vL)
*******
Not if loaded with preservatives.
Hell, Twinkies are practically health food.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (m45I2)
The horticulture prof I asked about what was needed, said he thought good winemakers was the key. Some guy in Wisconsin grew up in a wine family in France, and he won some national awards even using the more northern varieties. imo it might be more automated over time since the details are really mostly "cookbook", afaik. The key is diligence at every step, in when to pick, then controlling all the variables meticulously. (something robots could do well).
Only a few of the upstarts survived, as we got the wine glut and "Free Trade" meant cheap imports, and California had Two Buck Chuck, which was not bad I heard. But rebuilding rural economies is still a noble concept, and sipping a local wine with a view of the vineyard has romantic appeal. But in the humid Midwest, a regular spray program will be part of the growing process, or the (natural) rots will take over, and they won't be all that noble.
Posted by: illiniwek at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (Cus5s)
Fortunately, it would seem that she tore it into tiny pieces before consuming.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:04 PM (HALdu)
A Bum Wine review.
https://tinyurl.com/35nnh
MD 20/20
Night Train
Thunderbird
Etc
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 01:05 PM (vd8XM)
Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.
.....
Burt TC, ever read Thomas Sowell's Intellectuals and Society?
Posted by: squeakywheel at December 15, 2019 12:58 PM (51Wdw)
Not yet. It's sitting around here somewhere. Still packed in a box, I believe.
Paul Johnson's book on the subject is a wonderful red meat screed.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:05 PM (hku12)
Not exactly. They want to ban air travel for you, peasant.
In the ideal Gaian world the of the future, only private jets for the Important People will be allowed.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:06 PM (I2/tG)
the best thing about having a lib in the family is the never-ending opportunity to pull his chain.
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 01:06 PM (iUjXP)
Too bad you can't drink wine.
We can't drink beer, because carbonation aggravates the GERDS, but wine is no problemo.
Posted by: April at December 15, 2019 01:06 PM (OX9vb)
It's utter bullshit.
Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 01:03 PM (3BoiW)
Read Rousseau's Discourse on Inequality. I'm not saying that because it's good-- it's not, it's imbecilic-- but because of what a case study in leftist primitivist fart-sniffing it is.
Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (U7voe)
I don't think so.
Posted by: jsg at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (3BoiW)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December
In fairness, air travel used to be a lot better before the riff raff was able to afford to fly.
I am just old enough to have caught the tail end of the glamorous flights.
I remember when I was flying somewhere and the plane was nearly empty. I was mid cabin and not able to see a stewardess anywhere. I pushed the stewardess button and a fight attendant came out screaming that I should never push the button again because she was busy. I us that as my reference for when the glamorous flights were over.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:08 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:01 PM (m45I2)
Probably. Script writers do like their inside jokes, and slipping shite past the censors.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:09 PM (ZCEU2)
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I think Little Camp on the Prairie is more what they have in mind for Deplorables.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 01:10 PM (XVuno)
Aging ages people.
A couple years ago I was in Capetown for a week. My customer, who is a big wine drinker, took me on a wine tasting day, visiting about a half dozen wineries in the Cape region.
I know exactly squat about wine but he swore he could tell the difference between different versions of the same wine from wineries a few miles apart.
I couldn't tell much difference but damn that was a fun. Not everyday you get to drink wine while watching baboons. Real ones, not the human kind.
Posted by: JackStraw at December 15, 2019 01:11 PM (ZLI7S)
Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (U7voe)
The aforementioned Paul Johnson points out that Rousseau was fond of knocking up his maids and other assorted dames of low class, and then having the fledgling spawn left on the doorsteps of churches.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:12 PM (hku12)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:12 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: Gem at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (65i3Q)
Anyone remember the last time the U.S. news media pretended to be impartial? I'll tell you.
It was during Bush's Iraq invasion. The Fake News told us they couldn't possibly "take sides" in the Iraq war. They told us they compelled by journalistic integrity to treat "both sides" fairly. These were, of course, lies, to cover for their anti-Bush anti-USA coverage.
Fast-forward to today, the Fake News media takes sides on Every Single Issue and Event with the Democrats.
The Enemy Of The People.
They will be the first to pay when the time comes.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (hDHPO)
Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (RAG36)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (urZJh)
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (urZJh)
Posted by: bluebell at December 15, 2019 12:45
Heh. They stopped recycling glass here several yrs ago when they got rid of trashmen and purchased automated trash truck picker-uppers. The recycle can is twice the size of our trash can.
Posted by: olddog in mo, uckfay ancercay at December 15, 2019 12:49 PM (Dhht7)
California is in a conundrum, which it handling in its characteristically idiotic way.
California imposes a deposit requirement on glass and plastic bottles, aluminum cans, etc. Now that Chinese are no longer taking our crap most of the recycling centers are closed. The few that are still open - the state-run ones - have long lines of motorists waiting up to 45 minutes to recycle their crap.
It's almost as if California just wants to pocket the deposits, in its reflexive desire to extract more money from the kulaks, but wait - there's more. The commies, like rust, never sleep. So what does California do? It issues a $3.6 million enforcement action against CVS for failing to pay the $100-a-day fees per store (matched by another $100/d in civil penalties) by way of "holding retailers accountable for refunding consumers their nickel and dime recycling deposits."
I guess CVS forgot to pay la mordida to the appropriate bureaucrats. So California gets paid coming and going.
Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (pNm1M)
The screaming would be epic.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:15 PM (I2/tG)
one was clearly superior to all the others, and with a flourish, he
pulled out a bottle of ... Chateau Ripple. I guess last week was a good
year.
He mumbled something about the expensive wines being corked, but ... nah, bro.
I laughed out loud. Needless to say, I was never invited back. Which suited me just fine.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 12:41 PM (pNm1M)
I got forced into a wine tasting by the inlaws one time, over my objections. So I did it in a way that is fitting to my nic. I put on one of my music T shirts which consisted of a skeleton in chains holding a guitar, and a black leather dress jacket. I get to the wine tasting, listen to the bloviating over this one wine. While everybody is twirling their glasses I just grabbed the glass, poured the whole thing in my mouth, tilted my head back and gargled with it, then swallowed, looked at my inlaws and said "thats some good shit".
Its a mistake they have not repeated.
Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at December 15, 2019 01:15 PM (9Om/r)
Barton and Guestier Cotes Du Rhone is my go to red, 12 bucks a bottle, 4 Euros in France.
Posted by: NOT THAT GUY at December 15, 2019 01:15 PM (iTfiy)
This dude is a poseur and an asshole.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (urZJh)
185 Whoops. I meant that CHICK is a poseur and an asshole.
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (urZJh)
Did you ask this person for their pronouns? Looks like you just assumed.
How DARE you!
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:16 PM (hku12)
I can drink it, but I drink wine like I drink beer. Very quickly and then looking for another.
Then it's drunk Bruce time way to early
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (vd8XM)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:19 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Vanya at December 15, 2019 01:07 PM (U7voe)
It really is. Rousseau has so much to answer for. He started that "noble savage in a state of nature" thing. Utter nonsense. You don't have to go to Borneo to find that out. Just have a power outage on a hot summer night in any city to be instantly disabused of Rousseau's risible notion.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (ZCEU2)
Who wants to buy a car, or anything, where quality varies hugely from year to year?
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (HALdu)
Nice work if you can get it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:14 PM (pNm1M)
Gets said a million times a week around here... I just don't understand how anyone can justify to themselves staying in that godforsaken state.
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (hku12)
They will be the first to pay when the time comes.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 01:13 PM (hDHPO)
Remember their names and faces.
Posted by: Ha at December 15, 2019 01:20 PM (UU64l)
All them cats they love sweet wine
Wine, wine, wine
Elderberry
Wine, wine, wine
Blackberry
Wine, wine, wine
Oh cherry
Pass that bottle to me
Posted by: MD 2020 (M being for Miklos) at December 15, 2019 01:21 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Jean at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (t1ckn)
I can drink it, but I drink wine like I drink beer. Very quickly and then looking for another.
Then it's drunk Bruce time way to early
Posted by: Bruce at December 15, 2019 01:17 PM (vd8XM)
Few I drink beer slowly. A local brewery has those big steins available but I never use because the beer would be warm by the time I got to the bottom.
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: a whiner at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Tnijr)
*******
THIS is FABULOUS
We're mad as hell & we're NOT going to take it anymore!
#QuidProJoe getting called OUT! "Son of a Bitch he got Fired, right Joe?"
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)
The solution is obvious: drink faster.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
But then I listen to beer bores having dick-length contests about hops. "Oh, that's hoppy!" "Not as hoppy as THIS!" "Oh, yeah, well here's one that's TEN TIMES more hoppy!" "Well this one is FIFTY TIMES MORE HOPPY!"
It's all just because nobody is self-confident enough to say "This is good. I like it."
Posted by: Trimegistus at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (urZJh)
Posted by: Trimegistus
Oh sure.
Trimegistus and his Old Falernian.
Posted by: Miklos, unsnobbed at December 15, 2019 01:23 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Insomniac
Plastic straws may be illegal, but plastic beer funnels are not.
Yet.
Posted by: Miklos, who can also shotgun at December 15, 2019 01:24 PM (QzkSJ)
To quote their hero Stalin "There is a quality in quantity."
Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 01:25 PM (RAG36)
42nd street!
it's on the tube right now! what a pip!
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 01:26 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:27 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: BurtTC at December 15, 2019 01:05 PM (hku12)
It really is. It reveals just what self-serving hypocritical swine most of the intellectuals - including most especially Marx - actually were.
In stark contrast I read a German reader (for language students) published in the USSR on the lives of Marx and Engels. I had not realized that birds used to alight on Marx's shoulders, in recognition of his saintliness.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (pNm1M)
I predict that it will be hilarious how few people show up.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (I2/tG)
To quote their hero Stalin "There is a quality in quantity."
Posted by: Picric at December 15, 2019 01:25 PM (RAG36)
T-34s and IL-2's "Quantity has a quality all its own."
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: Mimi at December 15, 2019 01:29 PM (8i7Ho)
The Communists just cribbed from the "Lives of the Saints" to provide virtues for their pantheon.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:29 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 01:31 PM (Pg+x7)
Hitler once got a briefing on how many tanks the Soviet Union was producing. (It turned out that the briefing was quite accurate.)
He flew into a range, screaming that it was simply impossible that the USSR was building so many tanks.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:32 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:29 PM (I2/tG)
Yep. The book danced around how Marx used to sponge off of people around him, and made much of how his family suffered from cold and poor nutrition. Capitalism's fault, you know.
Hey Karl, how about getting off your ass and getting a job, instead of spending all your time writing that drivel while your children pop off from living rough?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:33 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:28 PM (pNm1M)
Yup...the birds were actually feeding from the open boils and sores which had gone rancid, hence, insects.
Marx was a giver.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 01:31 PM (Pg+x7)
Want to see how that goes over with a wine snob.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: freaked at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (Tnijr)
Marx was a giver.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at December 15, 2019 01:34 PM (Z+IKu)
He was providing a habitat!
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:35 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:35 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: runner at December
Hunter Biden does the sex version of this.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:37 PM (HALdu)
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:37 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
*******
A terroir, if you will.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (m45I2)
So he was a ... terroirist?
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 01:38 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)
The solution is obvious: drink faster.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
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ikr?
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 01:39 PM (RU4sa)
Chris Wallace asked Comey if, had he known about the problems with the FBI FISA applications (Comey signed them, but claims he didn't know about, um, issues), would you have resigned?
"No, I don't think so. There were mistakes I consider more consequential than this during my tenure."
Pray tell, St. James.
Posted by: Miklos, citing an "admission against interest" at December 15, 2019 01:39 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (H8QX
I thought the wine moms drank wine to get ready for or forget the surprise analling.
Posted by: not so at December 15, 2019 01:40 PM (HALdu)
I'm going to vote for people who want to fill my nice suburb with Section 8 housing, and raise the price of the gasoline that fuels my SUV to $10, because that nasty Trump Tweets mean things.
Posted by: Wine Moms! at December 15, 2019 01:40 PM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:36 PM (H8QX
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My other g-babie's grandmother is a wine mom.
She has a "Wine-o'clock" sweater.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 01:40 PM (RU4sa)
My grandfather - an Army combat engineer - witnessed war crimes during the Battle of the Bulge. He watched some members of Peiper's column gun down some Belgian civilians. At war's end, he was transferred from the unit he commanded, and assigned to the tribunals, in some capacity. That's what my research entails - trying to find out what he was doing. He never wrote or, to my knowledge, spoke to any family about ANY of this, nor of his 'added' assignment.
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (iUjXP)
*********
Pied-a-terroir!
(First time I ever made a pun in French.)
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (m45I2)
Latest news from Wa. has global enwarmening turning grapes grown in the hayseed portion into a lesser quality product. Beware.
Can't wait for the suns developing Maunder Minimum causing the freezing out of the crop. We can then go on state mandated dead winery tours to rip out vines and pull plows to get ready to plant winter wheat.
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at December 15, 2019 01:42 PM (e1mEI)
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2019 01:42 PM (CPk08)
I thought sulfiting red wine was a pretty old practice. Just burn some sulfur and put the SO2 gas into the cask partway through the aging process. Pretty low tech.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at December 15, 2019 01:42 PM (t5m5e)
Read John Robison's 'Proofs of a Conspiracy', published in 1798. If I remember it correctly, the last few chapters read like Karl Marx.
Posted by: Grannymimi at December 15, 2019 01:43 PM (u5LFV)
Posted by: mrp at December 15, 2019 01:43 PM (Pqytn)
"There was tremendous bias and guilt exposed [in IG Report], so obvious, but Horowitz couldn't get himself to say it. Big credibility loss. Obama knew everything!"
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 01:43 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: James Comey the Holy at December 15, 2019 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)
BTW, What kind of wine pairs best with corn flakes?
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (XVuno)
A nice wheat vodka.
Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at December 15, 2019 01:44 PM (CPk08)
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (gd9RK)
Some water and fruit fermenting in a toilet bowl. 100% organic.
These people are non-smart.
Posted by: nip at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (cpS4u)
Posted by: goatexchange at December 15, 2019 01:41 PM (iUjXP)
Present! Thanks for that. Good luck to you. I know about Nuremberg (of course), not much, or at all, about the other two that were taking place. I think it is a very worthwhile endeavor. Many who took part did not write memoirs, and I imagine the record is what is "in the record", documents that went into proceedings.
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 01:45 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at December 15, 2019 01:47 PM (H5knJ)
Five more cars were struck by projectiles Saturday night bringing the total number of cases to 61 since February, according to the California Highway Patrol.
...
The CHP said there have been 11 reported attacks in the last three days with two on Thursday and four projectile attacks on Friday.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (I2/tG)
These are great times!
Posted by: roy_batty at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (lWkJv)
Lesson learned- skunky beer is NOT improved by a dozen years in a non-temperature controlled garage.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (m45I2)
Posted by: Ben Had at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (V3fhb)
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Yes, but it implies there's something elite in play, in lieu of any supporting evidence.
Posted by: McLurkerson at December 15, 2019 12:37 PM (8DvH0)
Same with "intellectual." It looks like it implies intelligence, so some people think it's a compliment.
Intellectual: Can sprinkle his casual conversation with Sartre quotes. Can't change a tire.
Best phrase I heard from elsewhere is "Comfy Class." Degrading without praising.
The best wine story I heard was told by one of the "Freakonomic" authors. When he was a student at Yale, he had to assemble the wine for some faculty shindig. You won't believe what happened next.
Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (rdUEL)
I do miss the record covers though, spent many an hour staring at and studying those.
Posted by: nip at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (cpS4u)
Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet at December 15, 2019 01:51 PM (rdUEL)
Posted by: Uma Thurmond's Feet
My experience with academic reception wine was that it always had to be the cheapest French white wine.
Posted by: Strom Thurmond's Nose at December 15, 2019 01:53 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Some guy in Wisconsin at December 15, 2019 01:55 PM (ClCgE)
Posted by: Some
I will drink no wine before..Ok, it's time.
Posted by: Miklos the poor man's Oeneophile at December 15, 2019 01:57 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Al Crapton at December 15, 2019 01:58 PM (GlmxK)
Posted by: Northernlurker, still lurking after all these years at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (Uu+Jp)
The solution is obvious: drink faster.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 01:22 PM (NWiLs)
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ikr?
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 01:39 PM (RU4sa)
I go to the local taproom primarily in the hope of finding people to chat with. And so I chat whilst drinking beer, which makes the drinking slower.
I like the beer produced by local microbreweries but I'm honestly not snobbish about it.
Oddly enough my experience is that people drinking beer are friendlier than people drinking coffee. Or, for that matter, cocktails. Just my personal observation.
I've have never, even once, been in a wine bar.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 01:58 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 01:59 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Regular joe at December 15, 2019 01:59 PM (6/uwW)
These are great times!
Posted by: roy_batty at December 15, 2019 01:49 PM (lWkJv)
My small community has two microbreweries and a distillery. Kind of an interesting local development.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:00 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (ZCEU2)
Thunderbird!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)
So, I was doing a deep clean-out and reorganization of my garage this
week. I came across several bottles of home brew beer that I had made
back in probably 2007 or so. Obviously I had to crack one open and take a
taste.
Lesson learned- skunky beer is NOT improved by a dozen years in a non-temperature controlled garage.
Posted by: Muldoon at December 15, 2019 01:50 PM (m45I2)
You are obviously wrong.
Posted by: Skuns everywhere. at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (CPk08)
I can always start a dog conversation.
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:02 PM (Uu+Jp)
Posted by: Miklos, hand me anothe Mickey's Big Mouth, s'il vous plait at December 15, 2019 02:03 PM (QzkSJ)
I actually grew up with natural wine. It is absolute crap for the most part, largely because it is so unstable. I traveled through Sonoma and Napa several years back and the trendy "organic" wine was all the rage. I caught the eye of several vinters who seemed amused and disdainful. There were a few exceptions but this was the wine of my youth: unbalanced, too fruit forward, unnecessarily acidic. It often has to be those things, or becomes those things, when sulfites and sugar are not used. "Natural" wines age poorly for the most part, and at their best are a few months old and taste of Gamay.
This is so dumb I hope the writer gets tremendous blowback, but he'll stupidly chalk it up to people's lack of enlightenment.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:04 PM (iw59Q)
Posted by: Miklos, hand me anothe Mickey's Big Mouth, s'il vous plait at December 15, 2019 02:03 PM (QzkSJ)
Back in my day, a fawty of Olde English was as close to craft beer as you were going to get at the gas station convenience store.
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:04 PM (NWiLs)
Although, I spent all day running errands in meat space, the bar was a nice break.
Posted by: Infidel at December 15, 2019 02:05 PM (MTxDQ)
Thunderbird!
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:01 PM (NWiLs)
lol. Hows it sold? Good and cold. Whats the jive? Birds alive. Whats the price? Thirty twice. At least it was.
Posted by: Al Crapton at December 15, 2019 02:05 PM (GlmxK)
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 02:06 PM (axyOa)
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oh, dear....
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:08 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2019 02:08 PM (FhXTo)
Do whites continue to develop in the bottle? I think not, but I'm not sure.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at December 15, 2019 02:09 PM (gd9RK)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:09 PM (NWiLs)
I guess Enver Hoxha, as a former French teacher, got all the good stuff.
Posted by: Miklos, Bulgarian brandy also has interesting effects at December 15, 2019 02:10 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Insomniac at December 15, 2019 02:10 PM (NWiLs)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Insomniac
Look out for the Bull, the Schlitz Malt Liquor Bull...
Posted by: Miklos, now an upscale Valu-Rite snob at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (QzkSJ)
You know the rules.
http://www.solsoya.com/blog-1/2016/10/12/wybalena-organic-farm
Posted by: DaveA at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (FhXTo)
Do whites continue to develop in the bottle? I think not, but I'm not sure."
There are a few high end Spatlese-type Rieslings (I abhor them, but whaevs) that age well. But about 99 percent of whites are meant to be consumed within three years.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (ZCEU2)
Over the years it's become just something to have.
The cork sure is an interesting color.
Posted by: Diogenes at December 15, 2019 02:12 PM (axyOa)
Posted by: Woke Chardonnay at December 15, 2019 02:12 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:12 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:14 PM (zr5Kq)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:14 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 02:14 PM (+y/Ru)
________
Challenge accepted.
The biblical Noah, for anyone who still believes in the fairy tales from the so-called Old Testament, was fabled to be a vintner. The cultural heritage of natural winemaking and the resultant natural wine are so old that their prediluvian origins are surely components of as-yet undiscovered elements of the human genome. Tragically, this heritage was undermined by the quote-unquote New Testament with its depiction of wine being miraculously created from water; this, it should be noted, was for a wedding. With the parable of an extranatural process of producing wine making its way into Western culture, is it any wonder that divorce rates have skyrocketed over the past two millennia?
Granted it's not a short paragraph, but it has a couple of bonus attacks in it.
Posted by: FireHorse at December 15, 2019 02:15 PM (ScWBu)
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:15 PM (zr5Kq)
Heineken - the shit you drink out of country when you don't trust anything else. They make Schneider here - which is pretty good - but they don't have it at the bar and I don't feel like walking to the local liquor store.
So - green bottle it is.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:16 PM (bYn+n)
Champaign making process is interesting. Ever wonder how those bubbles get in there ?
Posted by: runner
Lawrence Welk bubble machine.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2019 02:16 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:17 PM (ZCEU2)
abhor them, but whaevs) that age well. But about 99 percent of whites
are meant to be consumed within three years.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)
Especially if you're not storing them properly. Most people aren't.
With respect to sulfites, there is a segment of the population that seeks out sulfite-free wine because sulfites, even in just one glass of wine, will give them headaches.
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2019 02:18 PM (6ezlu)
I'd probably drink normal wine but my stomach says no go. Rather odd, because I tend more towards cast iron stomach in general.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 15, 2019 02:18 PM (n4y+3)
Some 1915 champagne destined for the Czar was also salvaged from a ship sunk in the Baltic by a U-Boat. Well preserved, apparently also drinkable.
For myself, to be on the safe side, I try to drink all wine within 30 minutes of purchase. Actually, the supermarket parking lot is fine.
Posted by: Miklos, Waffle House sommelier at December 15, 2019 02:19 PM (QzkSJ)
Way too sweet for me - but, that's why they make all kinds, right ?
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:19 PM (bYn+n)
* This one's for you, Joe!
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at December 15, 2019 02:20 PM (GsSQN)
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True fact. Sulfites suck. Cali reds are rife with sulfites. European red wines, not so much. This is purely based on runner headache tachometer readings.
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (zr5Kq)
abhor them, but whaevs) that age well. But about 99 percent of whites
are meant to be consumed within three years.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)
Especially if you're not storing them properly. Most people aren't.
With respect to sulfites, there is a segment of the population that seeks out sulfite-free wine because sulfites, even in just one glass of wine, will give them headaches."
My girlfriend does. The tannins from red make it worse so she pretty well just drinks whites. Unfortunately, she loathes "natural" wine as much as I do.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)
Posted by: Miklos, Waffle House sommelier at December 15, 2019 02:19 PM (QzkSJ)
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lol
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:22 PM (RU4sa)
Champaign making process is interesting. Ever wonder how those bubbles get in there ?
Posted by: runner
Lawrence Welk bubble machine.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at December 15, 2019 02:16 PM (aKsyK)
I grew up thinking champagne had to be horrid because of this show. If it made you want to listen to Norma Zimmer it had to be crap.
Posted by: CN at December 15, 2019 02:22 PM (U7k5w)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)
Does she have the same problem with French, Italian, Spanish reds ?
Posted by: runner at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (zr5Kq)
I like the people that turn you on to something good, and then let you know that "it only costs X and you can get it all day at Y". Those are my peeps.
To me - finding a good value is the best type of class distinction.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (bYn+n)
all wine within 30 minutes of purchase. Actually, the supermarket
parking lot is fine.
Posted by: Miklos, Waffle House sommelier
Well sure, if you are into pointless self-denial. I try to finish it before exiting the checkout line.
Posted by: pep at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (T6t7i)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (n4y+3)
Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (H8QX8)
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (RU4sa)
https://tinyurl.com/y6bw8lj8
Posted by: Dan Smoot's
Heh
Posted by: Miklos, raising a glass at December 15, 2019 02:26 PM (QzkSJ)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at December 15, 2019 02:26 PM (+y/Ru)
The wines I drink are best consumed from a brown paper bag underneath a freeway overpass.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (WsmTT)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (hDHPO)
Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)
Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (Uu+Jp)
They do better in re-education camps. Or so I'm told.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (H8QX8)
When wine snobs start caterwauling about the superiority of a particular category of wine, without any thought given to specifics, I'm reminded of The Judgement Of Paris from 1976.
A famous limey wine merchant set up a wine tasting pitting various California wines against well-known French wines with the goal of knocking down the American upstarts (the limey ONLY sold Frog wines). He recruited some of the best, most prestigious wine critics in the world to conduct the blind tasting and publicized the hell out of it beforehand.
To everyone's surprise, including the wine critics (who all HATED the idea of California wines), the California wines came out on top of EVERY category.
Oops.
The limey got himself banned from the French wine tasting tours for a year as punishment for stupidly showing that Frog wines were overrated. And for the next 40 years the Frogs have screamed about how the tasting was biased, the Americans cheated, the sun was shining too brightly that day etc. Anything but that they had spent too many years resting on their previous reputation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (eXA4G)
No, that stuff smells better.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:29 PM (WsmTT)
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at December 15, 2019 02:23 PM (n4y+3)
Heard a new term for that just recently - a "frosty wheat soda".
I've probably never had a "good" mead - it's always just a home-made thing. And nothing wrong with that - I've had plenty of great home brews and like to think I made a few in my time. But the mead I've tried always tasted like the stuff I ended up with after the boil, before I pitched the hops.
I'd try it again. But Hell, the list of shit I've tried would make Satan blush.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:29 PM (bYn+n)
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:21 PM (iw59Q)
Does she have the same problem with French, Italian, Spanish reds ?"
Yes, although as you pointed out the Euros aren't as heavy on sulfites. Tempranaillo will give her a headache and it's probably the one least likely to have heavy sulfites.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:29 PM (iw59Q)
Oops.
The limey got himself banned from the French wine tasting tours for a year as punishment for stupidly showing that Frog wines were overrated. And for the next 40 years the Frogs have screamed about how the tasting was biased, the Americans cheated, the sun was shining too brightly that day etc. Anything but that they had spent too many years resting on their previous reputation.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:28 PM (eXA4G)
ever see the movie Bottle Shock? I don't know how accurate it is, but it's a fun telling of those events.
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at December 15, 2019 02:30 PM (jp0Bv)
he was such a pathetic figure those last years, those last decades, but i've watched some interviews from those years on youtube and her's surprisingly lucid, perceptive, unneurotic, and interesting.
worth a review.
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:30 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Aldo Cella at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (QzkSJ)
Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)
Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (Uu+Jp)
We need Brie Larsen's take on this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (pNm1M)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (Ol3ZL)
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (Uu+Jp)
They do better in re-education camps. Or so I'm told."
Along these lines, stock up on South African wines while you can.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (iw59Q)
Posted by: Skip at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Steve Kroft at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (QE8X6)
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (pNm1M)
Of course. Her opinion will be well-considered and extremely intelligent. Because, let's be honest, it's not like she's going to just pull it out of THAT ass.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:32 PM (bYn+n)
> Posted by: Aldo Cella
Found the 29-year-old.
Sadly, the Intarwebz tell me that the actor who played Aldo Cella died in 2013, at age 73.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:33 PM (WsmTT)
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at December 15, 2019 02:33 PM (rBtIz)
the grey lady is nothing but a fine example of maderized, oxidized, corked, brett-laden vinegar...
Posted by: krusty at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (Psuwu)
https://tinyurl.com/y6bw8lj8
Posted by: Dan Smoot's
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lol
Looks like the guy holding the bottle wants to use it as a weapon.
Posted by: SMH at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:34 PM (H8QX8)
A loooong time ago I went to a blind tasting of French and California wines, in recognition of that event. There were 50 wines in total. When the verdict was read, it was pretty much split. If you were from Europe, you preferred the French wines. If you were from the States, you went for CA.
Posted by: Vendette at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (6ezlu)
An English Wine Grower added some American vines from the East Coast to his green house, and infected Europe with phylloxera, an aphid from America that attacked the roots.
As each area of European wines began dying, from the roots, they brought in American rootstock, and spliced European grapes atop. No Texas or California involved.
Champaign was one of the last hit-and they boasted that their soil was too good to be infected. When phylloxera finally got to Champagne, the east coast roots were found to not grow there. After much concern, a French explorer [hiker] remembered that he saw some grape vines growing on a chalky bluff in Texas. Thus, at last, American grape stock that would grow in Champagne was found. So Champagne is all on Texas roots.
Phylloxera was unable to cross the Rockies. Italian immigrants started the California wine industry before "the blight". California had to re-plant all of its vines on east coast roots some 30 years after Europe did.
Australia did not get phylloxera for a long time. It has been determined that Australia was infected by a set of sister clone aphids. The blight in Australia is entirely monoclonal sisters who reproduce asexually.
There are a few places where vines still grow on their own roots: the Canary Islands, Argentina, the Guadalupe Valley in Mexico...
Posted by: Old Toby at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (tqaPy)
Posted by: Mrs. JTB at December 15, 2019 02:35 PM (7EjX1)
Serve your "natural wine" along with "natural cheese".
Because it just isn't cheese unless it's infested with maggots and carries that authentic 1-2 punch of tuberculosis and brucellosis, with maybe just a dash of listeria for extra zing.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at December 15, 2019 02:24 PM (WsmTT)
Isn't natural cheese the stuff you pull out of your navel and from between your toes?
Posted by: N.L. Urker Philips Screwdriver of the Gods at December 15, 2019 02:27 PM (Uu+Jp)
We need Brie Larsen's take on this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:31 PM (pNm1M)
Yeah, she'll get to the bottom of it.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (eXA4G)
Name one, you pompous ass. Just one.
I'll wait.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (jWe5r)
"orson schmoozes about winston churchill"
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:37 PM (Pg+x7)
Name one, you pompous ass. Just one.
I'll wait.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (jWe5r)
It's one of those lines about the endlessly imminent disaster re: Trump that leftists love to use and know will never invite questioning from their tribe.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at December 15, 2019 02:38 PM (H8QX8)
25m
Witness Yuri Lutsenko, inheritor of Shokin's office:
Records proving Amb Yovanovitch perjured herself at least twice.
Doc's showing she was denying visas to witnesses who could prove Biden & Dem corruption.
Clear doc proof of money laundering by Burisma & Biden's.
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 02:39 PM (BqBId)
Name one, you pompous ass. Just one.
I'll wait.
Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at December 15, 2019 02:36 PM (jWe5r)
We were perched on the verge of one on November 6, 2016, but we averted it.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (pNm1M)
Dem's impeachment for innocent conduct is intended to obstruct the below investigations of Obama-era corruption:
Billions of laundered $
Billions, mostly US $, widely misused
Extortion
Bribery
DNC collusion w/ Ukraine to destroy candidate Trump
Much more to come.
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at December 15, 2019 02:40 PM (BqBId)
How long until these public figures take the next step ?
I envision, and look forward to, folks bypassing the media entirely and going to well-produced podcasts. The cost would have to be worth it.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:44 PM (bYn+n)
Posted by: FlimFlammed at December 15, 2019 02:45 PM (ZTDnL)
Organic food definition: fertilized with animal shit."
A food writer I read (in addition to CBD) cracked wise and wrote "'organic' is just crops raised like they were a generation ago. And that's basically right.
Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at December 15, 2019 02:49 PM (iw59Q)
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (Pg+x7)
Posted by: Codfanglers at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (A0H36)
i think comey's spent his career avoiding responsibility.
Posted by: mjc at December 15, 2019 02:51 PM (Pg+x7)
Spoiler Alert - part of the trick to rising in any bureaucracy is avoiding responsibility. One Oh Shit cancels ten Atta' Boys. That is, truly, how shit works.
Say it with me - a Bureaucracy is not a Meritocracy. Say it.
To understand this is to understand why things work the way they work, and why they always work out this way.
Posted by: Clayton Bigsby at December 15, 2019 02:54 PM (bYn+n)
Posted by: Grump928(C) at December 15, 2019 03:03 PM (yQpMk)
Magical??
Fermentation just happens. Distillation, OTOH...there's your magic.
Posted by: Thirdtwin at December 15, 2019 04:03 PM (MMJ/U)
Posted by: Syzygy at December 15, 2019 04:24 PM (B3kya)
Sulfites are a preservative. If sulfites give you headaches, then don't add it.
It is also easy to make beer using a kit. It takes a little more of my time. A $100 kit will make about 2 cases of 12-ounce bottles. Like wine, I can make all sorts of stuff, my standard is a nut brown ale. The only kind I can't do are the light lagers because brewing on a stove browns the sugars so it won't look like Corona. I have made beer that I didn't like but other family members did.
Most decent-sized towns (>100k) seem to have a place that sells wine and beer kits and you can buy them online. If I got to a restaurant and buy wine, I always feel cheated.
Posted by: Richard at December 15, 2019 04:36 PM (huaUe)
Posted by: free tibet at December 15, 2019 06:13 PM (n6bs1)
Contra Costa (Matt Cline's terrific zinfandels, mourvèdres, and old-fashioned field blends)
Posted by: Otto Zilch at December 15, 2019 06:39 PM (MeboB)
This reminds me of Charles Grodin waxing rhapsodically about the "honest food" in the Midwest while chasing Cybill Shepherd in the original "Heartbreak Kid". Remember "no deceit in the cauliflower"? To which her father (Eddie Albert) responded "I have never heard a bigger crock of horseshit in my life".
Posted by: 370H55V at December 15, 2019 08:51 PM (WusEB)
Posted by: Groundhog at December 15, 2019 09:06 PM (VYwSh)
Posted by: the other coyote at December 16, 2019 02:19 PM (po8bk)
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