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The GOPe's "Budget Hawk" Fraud Is Over
[BUCK THROCKMORTON]

Fake-conservative politicians and pundits have been unmasked in the Trump era, and now another scam perpetrated by the GOPe and Conservative Inc seems to have run its course – the “Budget Hawk” fraud is over. For much of the past 40 years, fiscally conservative “budget hawks” have ensured that no conservative priorities are ever tackled because everything is subordinate to “the budget crisis.” A crisis they never did anything about. The key to the scam was “political capital” – it had to be reserved for the big battle to reign in “entitlements.” GOP politicians would refuse to tackle issues such as securing the border, or exiting from climate agreements, or pressing our deadbeat NATO allies to pay their dues, because it would waster precious political capital. Even worse, the “fiscally conservative budget hawks” refused to even cut “minor” wasteful spending such as aid to foreign despots who hate the USA, or funding for public radio leeches who also hate the USA. The budget hawks told us cutting these dollars were just “drops in the ocean.”

Ace wrote a great post about a dozen years ago explaining that the only way Americans would allow entitlements to be cut is if we eliminated every drop-in-the-ocean sacred spending cow first, so that people would realize that entitlements were the only thing left to cut. But our cowardly politicians also figured this out. Refusing to cut funding to PBS isn’t a bug – it’s a feature. They KNOW they will never have to cut entitlements, because it CANNOT happen if the small stuff isn’t cut first. And they won’t let you forget – cutting drop-in-the-ocean spending programs would waste that valuable political capital that must be reserved for the big budget battle. Even worse, the only time the budget hawks will oppose “drop in the ocean” spending is if it is for a conservative priority. They can find money to give to the PLO, but they oppose funding border security for fiscal reasons. Similarly with tax cuts – the budget hawks anguish about every lost dollar of tax revenue if taxes are cut, but they sure don’t mind tax dollars being steered to fund Planned Parenthood – dollars that could be cut to offset the tax cuts.

Donald Trump may not be championing fiscal responsibility, but he is actively advancing the rest of the conservative agenda. There is a very long list of conservative agenda items that Trump has followed through on, most importantly border security, but so much more - exiting the climate accord, moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem, Keystone, tax cuts, regulatory reform, refugee screening, the travel ban, etc. None of this would happen with a President McRyanBushRomney, because they’d conserve their valuable political capital for the big budget battle that was never going to happen.

Conservatives are sick of the budget hawk fraud so we elected someone who will at least advance the rest of our agenda if budget restraint isn’t going to happen. And not to belittle the deficit issue, but for 40 years I’ve been promised that apocalypse is imminent if I don’t keep electing GOP budget hawks. They did nothing and the apocalypse hasn’t happened. It’s a little like the imminent climate catastrophes that haven’t happened. Yes – governments can spend themselves broke (see Greece & Illinois) but conservatives have come to understand that “the deficit” is also an excuse for not fulfilling any other promises made to conservative voters.

Finally, it is noteworthy that Mark Sanford (R – Appalachian Trail), the NeverTrumpers’ great hope to beat Trump in the primary, was running on a platform of fiscal responsibility. This had them giggly with excitement, because we GOP voters had been duped by that fraudulent campaign promise for 40 years. Mark Sanford has since dropped out of the race with 0% GOP support. The GOP base will not be duped again by the Budget Hawk fraud.

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Comments

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1 BAck again

Posted by: FrodoB at November 26, 2019 01:27 PM (BQAo9)

2 maybe first

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2019 01:27 PM (KUaJL)

3 corgis summoned - sorry joe

Posted by: FrodoB at November 26, 2019 01:28 PM (BQAo9)

4 DAMN I READ THE CONTENT

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at November 26, 2019 01:28 PM (lbqpb)

5 Who is this BUCK THROCKMORTON? And how did he get the keys to the blog?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:29 PM (1CjJc)

6 Buck Throckmorton?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

7 and thank you Buck Throckmorton McLargeHuge for this tumescent and masculine post.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:30 PM (W8bmS)

8 What purpose does the GOP even serve anymore?

Posted by: Allie at November 26, 2019 01:30 PM (sm6Pk)

9 Slab Hardbeef

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:30 PM (NWiLs)

10 Budget Hawk?

Isn't that some kind of drone the Air Force flies?


Yeah, Kasich was a big Budget Hawk when he was in the Congress in the 80's and 90's. Where did that get him?

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (vcOmj)

11 The solution to this problem is High Speed Rail.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (v0R5T)

12 DAMN I READ THE CONTENT
Posted by: Blonde Morticia


Yeah. Wall o'Text.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (MjyI6)

13 The GOPe has literally betrayed us for far longer, and far more than just the budget. PDTS has made a lot of masks fall.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (gS3l1)

14 After Bidengate I realized that every bit of money in the budget directly benefits (pays) some government employee in some manner. Either elected officials, their staff, their family, or the bureaucrats and their families.

Any cut to the budget anywhere, is a pay cut to someone in DC.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (JkygK)

15 Smash Lampjaw

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (NWiLs)

16
GOP budget hawks are always giving Wimpy hamburgers thinking they'll be paid on Tuesday.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (+Z+gl)

17 and thank you Buck Throckmorton McLargeHuge for this tumescent and masculine post.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo


Buck Throckmorton - Turgid Cob

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (MjyI6)

18 hiya

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (arJlL)

19 that disguise had more holes in it than Charlie Brown's ghost costume.

Posted by: henry at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (JMDly)

20 Damned Dusty in the Sidebar...

Posted by: garrett at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (aOFYW)

21 I am thankful this week for content of any kind. Wall or otherwise.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (JkygK)

22 13 The GOPe has literally betrayed us for far longer, and far more than just the budget. PDTS has made a lot of masks fall.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (gS3l1)

This can't be emphasized enough.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (Hi8cV)

23 The solution to this problem is High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth


MONORAIL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM

And it was Phil Hartman voicing as Lyle Landley...

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....outlaw in America at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (vcOmj)

24 If you look at the increases in Federal spending, they were consistent up until Obama.

It did not matter who was in the Whitehouse, or who held Congress, the increases continued at almost the exact same rate.

It was just a question of WHICH part of the Government grew.

The only outlier to this was when Ross Perot was a Political Threat to BOTH parties, and they 'balanced the budget' (which they actually didn't).

But once Perot was destroyed, they immediately went back to the same rate of increase.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (NgKpN)

25 Chunk Nutsack

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (arJlL)

26 Buck Throckmorton Johnson is right!

Posted by: Olsen Johnson at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (aKsyK)

27 I'm thinking a lot of Horde taking the week off.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (axyOa)

28 read the content, and couldn't agree more.

how that fuckstick ryan kept pulling the wool over our eyes re: budget i'll never know.

willful ignorance, or belief that the alternative was worse...

hard to say.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (8D42x)

29 5 Who is this BUCK THROCKMORTON? And how did he get the keys to the blog?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:29 PM (1CjJc)


That's actually a very good question. I am trying to find out.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (zGtXn)

30 "Never let a crisis go to waste"

There are a plenty of crises to go around, and the Democrats aren't the only ones playing that game.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (KUaJL)

31 Excellent essay.

Donald Trump, who has never committed to be a "fiscal hawk", is somewhere north of 90% approval among Republicans. Indeed, seems the "fiscal hawk" rouse is just not gonna work anymore.

Posted by: docj at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (DU2N9)

32 IMHO the only way out is automation.

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (CLteG)

33 President McRyanBushRomney

Worst President ever, barring Barky McFuckstick.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (1CjJc)

34 all they need to do to keep their capital, after the impending electoral landslide, give Trump the right to line item veto the budget.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (CT57M)

35 And when they would get around to spending their carefully hoarded political capital it would be thrown up against a foe that had increased his own political capital by doing what its constituents wanted.

Like the carefully hoarded IJN battle line at Leyte Gulf.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (hLRSq)

36 Buck Throckmorton Johnson is right!
Posted by: Olsen Johnson


Sounds like frontier gibberish to me!

Posted by: Howard Johnson, how many flavors? at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (vcOmj)

37 Oh yeah, Paul Ryan was gonna cut that budget so d@mn hard!!

Also, check's in the mail, I won't c** in your mouth, of course those pants don;t make your butt too big, . . .

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (bDqIh)

38 melvin flapdoodle.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (KP5rU)

39 Ah. A right leaning Throckmorton.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (m45I2)

40 I actually liked Paul Ryan... up to the point he sided with Pierre RomneyCare Delecto. The exact opposite of a fiscal conservative.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (W8bmS)

41 It's been a fraud for as long as can remember. GWB mentioned entitlement reform for about ten seconds once and then dropped it. McCain and Romney getting the nomination exposed the GOP wasn't interested in fiscal conservatism for everyone to see, if people only looked.

Posted by: lowandslow at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (4thlk)

42 Who is this BUCK THROCKMORTON? And how did he get the keys to the blog?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:29 PM (1CjJc)

That's actually a very good question. I am trying to find out.
Posted by: OregonMuse



It's probably Warden or Weird Dave trying out a new nic.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (MjyI6)

43 I'm thinking a lot of Horde taking the week off.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (axyOa)

there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (8D42x)

44 39 Ah. A right leaning Throckmorton.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 01:34 PM (m45I2)

It's a sign!

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (NWiLs)

45

Smash Lampjaw!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (mpeBU)

46 Dick Balschaef

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (v0R5T)

47 That's actually a very good question. I am trying to find out.
Posted by: OregonMuse

Obstruction of Blog Justice!

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (KUaJL)

48 31
Excellent essay.



Donald Trump, who has never committed to be a "fiscal hawk", is
somewhere north of 90% approval among Republicans. Indeed, seems the
"fiscal hawk" rouse is just not gonna work anymore.

Posted by: docj at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (DU2N9)

And yet, he submitted some budgets proposals that proposed cutting spending, and they were DOA. GOP House or Dem House, it didn't matter.
But Trump's fault.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (1CjJc)

49 Yeah, kinda that.

There's a whole buffet of shit that needs to be fixed, and fiscal constraint is kinda the au gratin potatoes.

It's going straight to the waistline, but it'll take a few years to kill us. Meanwhile we've still got idiot wars, we've still got the kiddy-tranny enablers, we've still got the anti-energy scum.

You shoot at what you can see.

Posted by: JEM at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (8erNz)

50 there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...
Posted by: SturmToddler


Sock it ... to me?

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (vcOmj)

51 16
GOP budget hawks are always giving Wimpy hamburgers thinking they'll be paid on Tuesday.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (+Z+gl)

Note, Paul Ryan's ONLY real accomplishment?

Saving the Feds about $10 Billion on MILITARY RETIRMENTS.

Yes, the Government took money out of the pockets of future military retirees, at the same time they were breaking the service with way too many deployments.

So, instead of going after the most deserving of a cut, they went after those who, IMO, least deserved any cut.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (NgKpN)

52 "Budget"
What is this budget thingy they speak of in DC? Is that still a thing, because I'm pretty sure it's not. Just continuing resolutions or. . . something.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (bDqIh)

53 Maybe it's Ace wearing a throckmorton sock.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (m45I2)

54 11 The solution to this problem is High Speed Rail.
Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (v0R5T)


Has to be said with liberal emphasis: HIGH. SPEED. RAIL.

To show due deference and respect.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (jpBkc)

55 there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...

Posted by: SturmToddler


Not me. I'm a Russian bot!

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (gmo/4)

56 dis someone say Buck throbbed Morton.

now THAT IS a SURPRISE.

Posted by: saf at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (5IHGB)

57 MONORAIL!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDOI0cq6GZM




The 1979 James Bond movie? oh wait that was Moonraker

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (mpeBU)

58 oh my Oregon. do we have a lurker who hacked into the cob side of pixyware and... delivered good content?

That's like someone who breaks into your house and leaves caviar in the fridge and swaps out the valurite for Dom Perignon.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (W8bmS)

59 Same issue with all of the bonds measures that municipalities and school districts put on the ballot that (mostly) pass. Then you never think about then again until you get your next property tax bill, and there they are. They never go away and people just stop thinking about them. But the tax never goes down. Only up.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (scc3j)

60 22
13 The GOPe has literally betrayed us for far longer, and far more than just the budget. PDTS has made a lot of masks fall.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (gS3l1)



This can't be emphasized enough.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 26, 2019 01:32 PM (Hi8cV)

And for whatever he does or does not accomplish, I will be eternally grateful for this.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (1CjJc)

61 52 "Budget"
What is this budget thingy they speak of in DC? Is that still a thing, because I'm pretty sure it's not. Just continuing resolutions or. . . something.
Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (bDqIh)


The "budget" is to fiscal policy as the chicken was to ... well, you know.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (jpBkc)

62 43 I'm thinking a lot of Horde taking the week off.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (axyOa)

there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (8D42x)

But, we are not supposed to sock other Morons!

Posted by: Strum Curmudgeon at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (NgKpN)

63 there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...
Posted by: SturmToddler

Sock it ... to me?

Posted by: Zombie Richard Nixon at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (vcOmj)

trade places with that vintage Goldie and ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (8D42x)

64 oh my Oregon. do we have a lurker who hacked into the cob side of pixyware and... delivered good content?

That's like someone who breaks into your house and leaves caviar in the fridge and swaps out the valurite for Dom Perignon.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo



Makes your beds, vacuums, dusts, folds laundry.

OMG! Ace's mom is blogging!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (MjyI6)

65 Paul Ryan.
Try to say it without spitting afterwards. It's unpossible.

Posted by: mc at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (l1TIo)

66
High-speed Zeppelin service will lead to an economic boom!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (+Z+gl)

67
Is Morton related to Salty Dog?

Nicky Nacly needs ta know!

Posted by: saf at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (5IHGB)

68 BUCK THROCKMORTON is a commenter. An old commenter. But with a new nic!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (wYseH)

69 What I want to know is this:

Does 'Open Blogger' mean MANSPREADING?

Posted by: JEM at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (8erNz)

70 I think Trump and Mulvaney have the right idea about moving and cutting the federal bureaucracy, because once a lot of people are gone a lot of those mysterious, redundant costly projects/programs/departments will end, too. And fewer people accruing costly pensions, benefits.


It's a good start, anyway.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (bDqIh)

71 For those who aren't familiar with the term:

"Throckmorton sign, also known as John Thomas sign, refers to when the penis points in the direction of unilateral disease, typically of the pelvis or hip."

Usually as seen on a plain pelvic X-ray.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (m45I2)

72 Drool Rockworm

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (CLteG)

73 I mean even money directly earmarked for someone else other than a government connected individual directly pays them anyway.

Instapundit calls that opportunity for graft. I think there was an article about that today, but I haven't read it yet.

So:
Any line item that has no graft built into it will not be passed or approved.
Therefore, all line items passed or approved have graft built in.

Argot: any budget item eliminated eliminates graft, which is to say, someone in DCs pay.

Cut aid to Palenstein, someone's kid in DC gets no Christmas this year.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (JkygK)

74 #63 That Goldie was.... interesting. But Daffy as a duck.

Posted by: torabora at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (M5HP5)

75 I've long wondered just how many billions would be saved if all of the illegals were kicked off the welfare rolls.

Maybe under PDT we get a glimpse.

Posted by: blake - semi lurker in marginal standing
at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (qC1Sy)

76 Fredo outsmarted by a bartender.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (gmo/4)

77 Slab Manchest

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (RD7QR)

78 Hiya JT you asshole, and God bless you and your family in this wonderful Thanksgiving Season.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (oY5lM)

79 Throckmorton sign. Heh!

https://preview.tinyurl.com/tbtdmew

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (1CjJc)

80 there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM


Is that what the kids are calling it these days?

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (ejd/p)

81 What the Buck???

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (so+oy)

82 7 and thank you Buck Throckmorton McLargeHuge for this tumescent and masculine post.


So what do retired 70's era porn actors do now (if still alive)? Glad that question got answered.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (vN4+Q)

83 It's not like Trump is a hardline fiscal conservative who pushes hard for low spending. He doesn't fight for that. He deoesn't spend political capital on it. So is Trump a "budget hawk" fraud? Or just someone who never pretended to care about keeping the budget down.

Posted by: Scrabbler at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (IM7hs)

84 BUCK THROCKMORTON is a commenter. An old commenter.

(All together Horde.........)

How old is he ?

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (arJlL)

85 I'm thinking a lot of Horde taking the week off.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 26, 2019 01:33 PM (axyOa)

there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (8D42x)

But, we are not supposed to sock other Morons!

Posted by: Strum Curmudgeon at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (NgKpN)

maybe Ace stayed here, and WE took the week off.

so we're nothing more than various Ace socks. (it's allowed, it's his blog)...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (8D42x)

86 I just read the sidebar piece from rickl's sister and now I'm ugly crying in my office.

We bitch and yell and snarl and snipe at each other but, in the end, we are a family.

As Stitch says best: this is my family, I found it all on my own. It's little and broken but still good. Yeah. Still good.

https://youtu.be/UoVVQk7s6kg

*shoves cookies into maw whilst sobbing*

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (mf5HN)

87 Makes your beds, vacuums, dusts, folds laundry.

OMG! Ace's mom is blogging!
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (MjyI6)


I heard Ace banned his mom, back in the day, because commenters were cussing and he just couldn't!

Posted by: tbodie at November 26, 2019 01:41 PM (lJTbP)

88 Throckmorton's sign is second only to PRATFO as joke medical notation.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:41 PM (NWiLs)

89 That Goldie was.... interesting. But Daffy as a duck.

Posted by: torabora at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (M5HP5)

Always wondered who was standing behind her when she was bent over sticking her head out of that little window.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 01:41 PM (gmo/4)

90 Dildo, can you check my 7th circle subject predicate calculator ?

I was always bad at and/or/not.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:41 PM (JkygK)

91 Hiya JT you asshole, and God bless you and your family in this wonderful Thanksgiving Season.

Backatcha Cannibal & Heidi !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:41 PM (arJlL)

92 71 For those who aren't familiar with the term:

"Throckmorton sign, also known as John Thomas sign, refers to when the penis points in the direction of unilateral disease, typically of the pelvis or hip."

Usually as seen on a plain pelvic X-ray.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (m45I2)

Wait, I can point at stuff with my dick? Is that allowed here?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (oY5lM)

93 What particular mental illness afflicts Sanford that makes him so delusional? I doubt his former mistress would vote for him.

Posted by: WarEagle82 at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (6jHC3)

94 75 I've long wondered just how many billions would be saved if all of the illegals were kicked off the welfare rolls.

Maybe under PDT we get a glimpse.


Those of us in California - about 34% of the illegals, I think - might have road maintenance, for one thing.

What do you do when you loathe the people around you who enable shit behavior?

Posted by: JEM at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (8erNz)

95 #73 Cut aid to Israel and a war would suck us into the sandbox PDQ....OH WAIT....

Posted by: torabora at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (M5HP5)

96 72 Drool Rockworm
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (CLteG)



That sounds like a failed name idea in one of the "The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant" books.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (vN4+Q)

97 Mark Sanford has since dropped out of the race with 0% GOP support.

Trump saw this change and capitalized on it, bigly.

Fiscal conservatism is dead and you can't win on it.

It's a brutal truth. Trump seems adept at accepting and adapting to brutal truths.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (1XNk8)

98 oh my Oregon. do we have a lurker who hacked into the cob side of pixyware and... delivered good content?

That's like someone who breaks into your house and leaves caviar in the fridge and swaps out the valurite for Dom Perignon.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo

Makes your beds, vacuums, dusts, folds laundry.

OMG! Ace's mom is blogging!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (MjyI6)

I hope there's pie.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (8D42x)

99
Backatcha Cannibal & Heidi !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:41 PM (arJlL)

Too funny you guys.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (oY5lM)

100
Crash Volcano.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (kauXV)

101 The only way spending will ever be cut is under the threat of a nation wide taxpayer strike. Period.

Posted by: DeVan at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (kC+1/)

102 (All together Horde.........)

How old is he ?

He's so old, he shits dust.

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (arJlL)

103 Thanks for the explainer, I wasn't getting it.

Posted by: Farmer Bob- apparently chopped liver at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (87EdW)

104 Wait, I can point at stuff with my dick?

well, it's not like Jerry Nadler can

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (W8bmS)

105 BUCK THROCKMORTON is a commenter. An old commenter.

Commenter of COB.

Cuase if this is an old COB,

Hi Monty!

Posted by: tbodie at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (lJTbP)

106 Wait, I can point at stuff with my dick? Is that allowed here?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24
lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM
(oY5lM)

I thought it was encouraged.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (1CjJc)

107
oh my Oregon. do we have a lurker who hacked into the cob side of pixyware and... delivered good content?

That's like someone who breaks into your house and leaves caviar in the fridge and swaps out the valurite for Dom Perignon.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (W8bmS)






Heh. Reminds me of an incident when I was in college. My car was broken into one night and the fuckers stole all my textbooks along with a bunch of other shit. Among the books was Cornel West's thin little shit pamphlet Race Matters, which was mandatory reading for one of my courses.

About 2 weeks later, the fucker broke into my car AGAIN, this time leaving that same copy of Race Matters on the dash, but with a bunch of new notations in the margins.

I still have the book on my shelf, just because of this story, one of the few books I kept from the college years.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (kw0bd)

108 What purpose does the GOP even serve anymore?
Posted by: Allie at November 26, 2019 01:30 PM (sm6Pk)


Money laundering for the Gas Chamber of Krony Kapitalism.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (y7DUB)

109 Drool Rockworm
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (CLteG)


That sounds like a failed name idea in one of the "The Chronicles of Thomas Covenant" books.
Posted by: Puddleglum


Sounds like a movie star from the Flintsones.
"Live from Hollyrock! Drool Rockworm!"

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (MjyI6)

110 >>I've long wondered just how many billions would be saved if all of the illegals were kicked off the welfare rolls.



Pretty sure it's Billions, with a "B", illegals are costing us every year.

It affects costs in all sorts of ways, such as in healthcare and federal prison (~40% of those in federal prison are foreigners!).

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (bDqIh)

111 58 oh my Oregon. do we have a lurker who hacked into the cob side of pixyware and... delivered good content?

That's like someone who breaks into your house and leaves caviar in the fridge and swaps out the valurite for Dom Perignon.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:37 PM (W8bmS)


Turns out it's someone known to Ace and KT. CBD knows him, too, and posted it under the Open Blogger login. Apparently, he has written a few things in the past, under a different nic.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (zGtXn)

112 weren't the throckmorton's responsible for blowing up that space shuttle?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (KP5rU)

113 83 It's not like Trump is a hardline fiscal conservative who pushes hard for low spending. He doesn't fight for that. He deoesn't spend political capital on it. So is Trump a "budget hawk" fraud? Or just someone who never pretended to care about keeping the budget down.
Posted by: Scrabbler at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (IM7hs)

I think you're missing the point. Trump never portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative like the GOPe has, so he can't be a "fraud" like they have been.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (Hi8cV)

114 83 It's not like Trump is a hardline fiscal conservative who pushes hard for low spending. He doesn't fight for that. He deoesn't spend political capital on it. So is Trump a "budget hawk" fraud? Or just someone who never pretended to care about keeping the budget down.
Posted by: Scrabbler at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (IM7hs)


He's got bigger fish to fry. An austerity budget - in the unlikely event he could get it enacted - would be unpopular, and could prevent him from doing the Lord's work, e.g., reforming the Federal judiciary, closing the border, renegotiating our trade deals, holding NATO's feet to the fire, rebuilding the military, etc., not to mention getting re-elected.

Priorities.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (jpBkc)

115 This is clearly not an ace post, as the punctuation, the paragraphary, etc. is not him.

Unless of course he is playing 'how do I make my shit look like someone else's shit and make everyone talk about it' games.

Posted by: JEM at November 26, 2019 01:45 PM (8erNz)

116 What Throckmorton said!

Posted by: Bartholomew Fiddlesticks III at November 26, 2019 01:45 PM (L4FL3)

117 weren't the throckmorton's responsible for blowing up that space shuttle?

I am pretty sure they are the new line of Triumph street rods, due out 2020.

Posted by: Cu'Chulainn at November 26, 2019 01:45 PM (CT57M)

118 What Brock (who killed a guy with a trident) said but with more profanity.

I've spent more than the 29 years old I am fighting for anything resembling fiscal sanity, only to be told oh we can't do that Because Muh Majority or Because We're In The Minority. The power of the purse has been de facto removed from the Constitution, at least when the GOP controls the House, because the House refuses to use it.

I'm done. I gave time and treasure and support and got more and more spending and now only ever CRs instead of a budget. Fine. This is how things are. Then I will take what victories I can get. Hell, at this point I'm willing to set aside my no more political dynasties and vote in DJT, Jr. and then Ivanka and then Tiffany and then whomever else is needed until the reign of Barron the Destroyer.

Actions have consequences. As do lies.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:45 PM (mf5HN)

119 112 weren't the throckmorton's responsible for blowing up that space shuttle?

All I know is that it's the road you start on to bike up Tamalpais.

Posted by: JEM at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (8erNz)

120 Shit tadoo.

Later, Horde !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (arJlL)

121 As Stitch says best: this is my family, I found it all on my own. It's little and broken but still good. Yeah. Still good.

We're all broken. In different ways, to differing degrees of severity, but broken nonetheless. But this family of broken people is far and away better than being broken and alone.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (NWiLs)

122 >>It's not like Trump is a hardline fiscal conservative who pushes hard for low spending. He doesn't fight for that. He deoesn't spend political capital on it. So is Trump a "budget hawk" fraud? Or just someone who never pretended to care about keeping the budget down.

Trump was quite clear during the election that he wasn't going to touch entitlement and he was going to invest bigly in the military.

You can't cut the budget without cutting entitlements and military spending and pretending you can is a waste of time.

So no, I never expected him to be a budget hawk.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

123 I think you're missing the point. Trump never
portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative like the GOPe has, so he
can't be a "fraud" like they have been.

Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (Hi8cV)

Needs more pelvic thrust in the direction of the point.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (1CjJc)

124 112 weren't the throckmorton's responsible for blowing up that space shuttle?

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (KP5rU)

Weren't the marooned on Gilligans Island?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (oY5lM)

125 Chunk Slabthigh

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (RD7QR)

126 It's not like Trump is a hardline fiscal conservative who pushes hard for low spending. He doesn't fight for that. He deoesn't spend political capital on it. So is Trump a "budget hawk" fraud? Or just someone who never pretended to care about keeping the budget down.
Posted by: Scrabbler at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (IM7hs)

I think you're missing the point. Trump never portrayed himself as a fiscal conservative like the GOPe has, so he can't be a "fraud" like they have been.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (Hi8cV)


As a business owner he has to be fully aware of how unsustainable kicking the can down the road is. I'm pretty sure he'll address it; as with everything else I have no idea how...

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (y7DUB)

127 Turns out it's someone known to Ace and KT. CBD knows him, too, and posted it under the Open Blogger login. Apparently, he has written a few things in the past, under a different nic.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 01:44 PM (zGtXn)


Drat. Probably not Monty.

Screw it, "Hi Monty! Written any good Doom lately?"

Posted by: tbodie at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (lJTbP)

128 Puddleglum, it wasn't failed exactly; Drool Rockworm was that cavewight's actual name.

Donaldson wasn't yet all that good as a writer when he did the first three Chronicles books so he came up with bullshit names like that. And his publisher enabled Donaldson on account that para-Tolkien books were selling well in the 1970s. Said publisher admitted as much IIRC.

Maybe those ridiculous names could pass insofar as the first Chronicles was supposed to leave the reader guessing as to whether the whole Land was a parable for leprosy and self-loathing, and not a real place. Maybe.

Donaldson got better as a writer. A lot better.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (W8bmS)

129 Or just someone who never pretended to care about keeping the budget down.

Posted by: Scrabbler at November 26, 2019 01:40 PM (IM7hs)


I suspect he has plenty on his plate without taking on that thankless task, such as dealing with a Derp State coup attempt.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - The Outrage Outlet says Flatulus Toxicus is The Silent Killer! at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (hLRSq)

130 So no, I never expected him to be a budget hawk.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

But in putting forth spending proposals including cuts, he has exposed the GOPe duplicity, like a boss.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (1CjJc)

131 Interesting that the one valid complaint the NeverTrumpers had was that Trump was no FiCon.

Interesting because, as the post makes clear, fiscal conservatism was all Failure Theater anyway.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (1XNk8)

132 As Stitch says best: this is my family, I found it all on my own. It's little and broken but still good. Yeah. Still good.
-----------

An ill-favored thing, sir, but mine own.

Posted by: The Bard at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (xSo9G)

133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

134 We were thrifty!

We were spendthrifts!!

Ahh yes, I remember it well!!

Posted by: Maurice at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (CLteG)

135 No amount of budget cutting is going to get us out of our $21 trillion dollar (that we know of, many speculate it's much larger) hole. At this point I don't even care anymore. Get a wall built and let the chips fall where they may.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (prSvo)

136 Shit. Now I'm all teary. And I'm supposed to be a cold-hearted bastard.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (NWiLs)

137 120 Shit tadoo.

Later, Horde !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (arJlL)

Shit tadoo? Thats that little turd on that island yelling that the plane landed?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (oY5lM)

138
BUCK THROCKMORTON is a commenter. An old commenter. But with a new nic!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (wYseH)





Well, the writing isn't crazy enough to be WickedPinto, and there isn't enough DOOM! to be Monty, no hump so it's not LauraW, no epic Suzanne Sena poetry....

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (kw0bd)

139 133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

Been having some fun have we?

Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (CLteG)

140 I desperately want the budget issue fixed. But even with both houses of congress, and the presidency...did it get fixed? Nope. Not even close. Didn't even really try.

So.....? I mean...so what? You won't fix it whether you get elected or not.

And here is the thing - I could fix it. Most of the problem is entitlements, yeah? Okay, make a law that social security (for example) out payments must match inflow. So every time outflow exceeds inflow we have an automatic cut in outflow. Couple that with removing the high income cap on social security taxes, and maybe eliminate outflow payment to people earning more than $100k a year. It's really pretty simple to get it back into alignment. Make the cuts automatic. Increase the ceiling on contributions. Reduce payments to rich people.

By the way, removing the limit on the tax and reducing payments to rich people are just window dressing. The real meat is just cutting the payments to everyone by a little bit.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (+DS2f)

141 133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

What did you do this time?

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (NWiLs)

142 The only thing I can say about Throckmorton

it's the best place in the world to bag dove

Posted by: SWALLOWSWELL at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (rpxSz)

143 BUCK THROCKMORTON is a commenter. An old commenter. But with a new nic!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (wYseH)


Buck Throckmorton, give us a sign.


No, not that way.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (1CjJc)

144 Best post in a long time.

Posted by: Hotspur at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (yiiDy)

145 137 120 Shit tadoo.

Later, Horde !

Posted by: JT at November 26, 2019 01:46 PM (arJlL)

Shit tadoo? Thats that little turd on that island yelling that the plane landed?
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (oY5lM)

Minor character in the next Star Wars movie.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (NWiLs)

146 This isn't the hill to die on folks.*gets son a job as a lobbiest*This isn't the hill to die on folks.*pays daughter out of campaign funds for "consulting"*This isn't the hill to die on folks.*gets an early stock buy in for a company your regulating*This isn't the hill to die on folks.*retires and has wife run for seat you have held for 20 years*This isn't the hill to die on folks.*becomes a lobbyist* Those stupid hick voters back from will believe anything.

Posted by: Zeno the Stoic at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (cGlgB)

147 139 133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

Been having some fun have we?
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (CLteG)

Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

148 sorry, my swallowswell sock was on

Posted by: REDACTED at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (rpxSz)

149 141 133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

Candy. Flowers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (oY5lM)

150 >>But in putting forth spending proposals including cuts, he has exposed the GOPe duplicity, like a boss.

Anyone who doesn't put cutting entitlements and military spending at the top of the list is a fraud. And those who do usually don't get elected unless it is from deep red districts.

Remember the commercial Nancy ran with Ryan pushing granny in the wheelchair off the cliff? Same as it ever was.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)

151 High-speed Zeppelin service will lead to an economic boom!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (+Z+gl)


Will we ever see it? Survey says:

It's been a long time been a long time been a long lonely lonely lonely time.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (kw5n8)

152 My own personal fiscal responsibility has certainly improved during the Trump era.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (1XNk8)

153 Also, I think "fiscal conservative", as a species is related to snarks and jub-jub birds.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (YOhRS)

154 I got Willowed.

385 Redskins were the only NFC East team to win this week. We are now tied with the Dolphins and Giants. If we win next week we would be tied with Detroit, Atlanta, Denver and Arizona. We're going places.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (yRAFu)

155 147 Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

=========

Need new fiction manuscripts to look at?

Huh? HUH?!?!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (q80AH)

156 Wait, I can point at stuff with my dick? Is that allowed here?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM


Assuming you've been diligent with your washcloth / hand towel / bath towel exercises, yes.

If not, you need to get on the GAINZZ, bro.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (QHvJT)

157 Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

Get a hooker under your desk. You'll feel better.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (NWiLs)

158 been a long since i took that stroll.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (KP5rU)

159 Trump gave everyone a tax cut including rich, middle, and poor. The changed the law on student loans so that if they are discharged for handicaps you no longer pay taxes.

How'd that go?

Trump cut taxes on the rich.

If he cuts anything in the budget, how will that go?

TRUMP CUTS SENIOR BENEFITS
TRUMP CUTS AID TO DEPENDENT CHILDREN
etc.

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (JkygK)

160 In before Rod Turgidson

Posted by: Bartholomew Fiddlesticks III at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (L4FL3)

161 150 >>But in putting forth spending proposals including cuts, he has exposed the GOPe duplicity, like a boss.

Anyone who doesn't put cutting entitlements and military spending at the top of the list is a fraud. And those who do usually don't get elected unless it is from deep red districts.

Remember the commercial Nancy ran with Ryan pushing granny in the wheelchair off the cliff? Same as it ever was.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

Zeroing out military spending doesn't even close the gap on our deficit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (q80AH)

162 Drat. Probably not Monty.
Screw it, "Hi Monty! Written any good Doom lately?"
Posted by: tbodie at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (lJTbP)


Also, Monty has his own login.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (zGtXn)

163 149
141 133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.



Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)



Candy. Flowers.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24
lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM
(oY5lM)

Can you hide the body? Cannibal Bob might know some people.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (1CjJc)

164 158 been a long since i took that stroll.

Lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely
Lonely time?

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (1XNk8)

165 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)
---
I could have been fired one time for shooting my mouth off at my orientation to the company. There were high-ups in the subsidiary company that wanted me fired.

My director pulled me into his office the day after and asked "What the hell did you say?" (not in a grumpy or overbearing way--but more like an amazing way)

The worst part was that I had gotten what I "contributed" to the discussion wrong, and set off an interdepartmental squabble.

So...I kind of know the feeling...but not that time only.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (YOhRS)

166 162 Drat. Probably not Monty.
Screw it, "Hi Monty! Written any good Doom lately?"
Posted by: tbodie at November 26, 2019 01:47 PM (lJTbP)

Also, Monty has his own login.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (zGtXn)

==========

*says nothing*

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (q80AH)

167 Assuming you've been diligent with your washcloth / hand towel / bath towel exercises, yes.

If not, you need to get on the GAINZZ, bro.

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (QHvJT)

Yeah, well everyone is armed here so i don't be pointing my piece.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (oY5lM)

168 Heh. Reminds me of an incident when I was in college. My car was broken into one night and the fuckers stole all my textbooks along with a bunch of other shit. Among the books was Cornel West's thin little shit pamphlet Race Matters, which was mandatory reading for one of my courses.

About 2 weeks later, the fucker broke into my car AGAIN, this time leaving that same copy of Race Matters on the dash, but with a bunch of new notations in the margins.

I still have the book on my shelf, just because of this story, one of the few books I kept from the college years.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (kw0bd)



That is hilarious.

I was reading the Chive, as one does, and someone had a story about his car being stolen. However, the thief was unaware that the gas gauge was broken and thus that full sign wasn't so much with the true. Thief made it four blocks before the car ran out of gas.

In retaliation, the thief tuned the radio to all country stations and then ripped off the knobs.

Ahhhh, pettiness. One of my most favorite things.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (mf5HN)

169 They are happy to be the tax collector for the welfare state

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (a+PZt)

170 Likely already said, but I think it was over at least 50 years ago.

Posted by: ShainS at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (9Jfas)

171 i think that Trump is well aware that the only solution to the massive private and public debt overhead in this country (short of a massive depression) is the devaluation of the dollar. this, rather than public debt reduction, is the approach he has decided to pursue. hence, Trump's loathing of a strong dollar.

Posted by: The guy who likes Zombeavers the Movie at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (CZz+Z)

172 >>Zeroing out military spending doesn't even close the gap on our deficit.

I know. That's why I said both military and entitlements, by far the two biggest parts of the budget every single year. The discretionary part of the budget is a drop in the bucket in comparison.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)

173 Trump ran as someone who loves this great country and promising to drain the swamp.

He has never said he was a conservative. It is because the Democrats have moved so far Left that the Shining Path seems moderate in comparison it thus makes Trump look conservative

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (khWoy)

174 Embrace the inevitable hyperinflation.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (prSvo)

175 172 >>Zeroing out military spending doesn't even close the gap on our deficit.

I know. That's why I said both military and entitlements, by far the two biggest parts of the budget every single year. The discretionary part of the budget is a drop in the bucket in comparison.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (ZLI7S)

========

But if we stop foreign aid, we're good, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (q80AH)

176 i think that Trump is well aware that the only solution to the massive private and public debt overhead in this country (short of a massive depression) is the devaluation of the dollar.

I.e., inflation.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (jpBkc)

177 174 Embrace the inevitable hyperinflation.
Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (prSvo)

==========

With gold!

Buy gold!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (q80AH)

178 Remember the commercial Nancy ran with Ryan pushing granny in the wheelchair off the cliff? Same as it ever was.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:51 PM (ZLI7S)


I remember Ryan getting smoked by Rocket Surgeon Patty Murray in the budget sequester. I think that was the point my rage at the GOP reached a very high plateau.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (y7DUB)

179 That Goldie was.... interesting. But Daffy as a duck.

Posted by: torabora at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (M5HP5)

yeah, but i would all day and twice on sunday, daffy or not.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (8D42x)

180 Donald Trump may not be championing fiscal responsibility, but he is actively advancing the rest of the conservative agenda.
---
"Infrastructure" is not that much of a conservative agenda, neither is prison reform, really.

I think we're just relieved to see middle politics again.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (YOhRS)

181 Can you hide the body? Cannibal Bob might know some people.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (1CjJc)

Is the body still fresh?

*lights wood under kettle*

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (oY5lM)

182 You want to cut future spending - build the fucking wall - close immigration for 40 years - and deport leeches. Also, shut down the Income Tax scheme.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (yRAFu)

183 Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.
Posted by: joncelli



Light the lamps! General quarters!
Going to Defcon 2! This is not a drill! Repeat. This is not a drill!
Deny! Deny! Deny!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (MjyI6)

184 Wait, I can point at stuff with my dick? Is that allowed here?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24
lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM
(oY5lM)

I thought it was encouraged.


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:43 PM (1CjJc)

i assumed it was expected, what with the no pants rule and all...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (8D42x)

185 174
Embrace the inevitable hyperinflation.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (prSvo)


I know right?

Posted by: Universal basic Income at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (L4FL3)

186 https://duckduckgo.com/?q=republican+introduces+social+security+cuts

Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (JkygK)

187 Light the lamps! General quarters!

Going to Defcon 2! This is not a drill! Repeat. This is not a drill!

Deny! Deny! Deny!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (MjyI6)

Can you blame the Russians?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (1CjJc)

188 But if we stop foreign aid, we're good, right?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:54 PM (q80AH)


The maddening thing is that we're borrowing money to play big shot to shithole countries. They can't borrow money themselves because shithole countries.

I say, cut 'em loose. Sink or swim, pendejos.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (jpBkc)

189 >>But if we stop foreign aid, we're good, right?

It would be a great idea since it seems a significant part of it ends up being laundered.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (ZLI7S)

190 128 Puddleglum, it wasn't failed exactly; Drool Rockworm was that cavewight's actual name.

Donaldson wasn't yet all that good as a writer when he did the first three Chronicles books so he came up with bullshit names like that. And his publisher enabled Donaldson on account that para-Tolkien books were selling well in the 1970s. Said publisher admitted as much IIRC.

Maybe those ridiculous names could pass insofar as the first Chronicles was supposed to leave the reader guessing as to whether the whole Land was a parable for leprosy and self-loathing, and not a real place. Maybe.

Donaldson got better as a writer. A lot better.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo



Heh! That's interesting. I read the TCoTC series decades ago. I liked them but I was a teen so what did I know.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (vN4+Q)

191
We figured this out in 2005.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (fVTyj)

192 $21,000,000,000,000

There is speculation the debt could be as high as $75,000,000,000,000.

Digest that for a bit.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (prSvo)

193 We put our faith in Blast Hardcheese!

Posted by: I Have Questions at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (BvNzB)

194
"rein in", as in to rein in ones horse, not "reign in".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (pNxlR)

195 187 Light the lamps! General quarters!

Going to Defcon 2! This is not a drill! Repeat. This is not a drill!

Deny! Deny! Deny!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (MjyI6)

Can you blame the Russians?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (1CjJc)

[Perks up] Maybe hacking? This has potential...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

196 Also, Monty has his own login.
Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 01:52 PM (zGtXn)


Back in the day, Monty's morning dose of DOOM! is what got me hooked on the HQ. It continually amazes me the writing talent that ACE has put together here over the past 12 years that i have been visiting.

So, just to be suckup clear, thanks to ACE and the COBS for all you do!

Posted by: tbodie at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (lJTbP)

197 194


"rein in", as in to rein in ones horse, not "reign in".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (pNxlR)

Why must you reign on our parade?

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (1CjJc)

198 I'm mostly relieved to have, at long last, a POTUS who despite being a NYC billionaire, has a genuine understanding of and sympathy towards the middle and working classes.

After years of abuse by both parties, it's nice to have a POTUS who fights for me. And times have been good chez Smiley, since he took office. Having my best years in, well, years.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (1XNk8)

199 Ahhhh, pettiness. One of my most favorite things.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (mf5HN)

That's as in the song...hums through lyrics.

...'and these are a few off my....'

Wait gotta be there....

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (oY5lM)

200 Yeah, well everyone is armed here so i don't be pointing my piece.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM


Not EVERYONE!

* sobs *

* storms out * * slams door *

Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (QHvJT)

201 Flex Junkkicker.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (kauXV)

202 Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.
Posted by: joncelli
---
In general, we only get into real trouble at work when we do something we weren't supposed to do.

What you described was being in trouble.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (YOhRS)

203 200 Yeah, well everyone is armed here so i don't be pointing my piece.
Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM

Not EVERYONE!

* sobs *

* storms out * * slams door *
Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (QHvJT)

=========

I laughed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (q80AH)

204 [Perks up] Maybe hacking? This has potential...
Posted by: joncelli



Why not? Works for Congress.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (MjyI6)

205 Can you blame the Russians?


Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM


Just go full Jake: https://youtu.be/JFvujknrBuE


Posted by: Bert G at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (Y+/QX)

206 Some of the loyal Dem FB memers will post "don't believe your lying eyes the economy is not great, the Feds had to drop/keep rates low"

Well the FEDs can't raise rates very high because they can't afford to make national debt interest payments if they raise the rates too high.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (cDw3P)

207 Trump cut out $300 million the UN was lining pockets with while claiming to help Paleostians.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (khWoy)

208 Here's an idea - quit giving $5k SSDI to immigrant's parents as soon as they arrive past their working age.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (yRAFu)

209 1. Buy precious metals
2. Buy ammo
3. Build the damn wall

The rest will sort itself out.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (prSvo)

210 We bitch and yell and snarl and snipe at each other but, in the end, we are a family.



As Stitch says best: this is my family, I found it all on my own. It's little and broken but still good. Yeah. Still good.

atc, there was a prior email from rick's sister that Tami posted last eve.

In it, Linda, his sister, said that she had started reading our commentary regarding her brother, due to his computer having AoS as its home page.She said she was so touched by our tributes to him and that they meant the world to her. She said we were his family as much as she is.

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (DJFLF)

211 I laughed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (q80AH)

Yep!

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'in the spirit of Thanksgiving I took the 24 lb. turkey so no one else could have it'. at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (oY5lM)

212 "rein in", as in to rein in ones horse, not "reign in".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (pNxlR)

Why must you reign on our parade?
Posted by: flounder


If it's yellow, it's not rain.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (MjyI6)

213 Rush is talking about how the Demolishcrats have decided that an appreciation for a return to right-center politics is a cult.

Posted by: Axeman at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (YOhRS)

214 Tired and feeling kinda shitty. Hope I'm not getting sick for Thanksgiving. Ugh.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

215 "rein in", as in to rein in ones horse, not "reign in".
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM


We prefer "rain".

Posted by: The Plains of Spain at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (QHvJT)

216 206 Some of the loyal Dem FB memers will post "don't believe your lying eyes the economy is not great, the Feds had to drop/keep rates low"

Yep, my lib sister keeps trying to tell me the tax cuts, and all the bonuses and raises are all a figment of my imagination.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (1XNk8)

217 In it, Linda, his sister, said that she had started reading our commentary regarding her brother, due to his computer having AoS as its home page.She said she was so touched by our tributes to him and that they meant the world to her. She said we were his family as much as she is.

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2019 01:59 PM (DJFLF)

Stop that. You're making me feel things.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

218 We prefer "rain".
Posted by: The Plains of Spain
======================

This made me laugh. I needed that.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 26, 2019 02:01 PM (prSvo)

219 We prefer "rain".
Posted by: The Plains of Spain at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (QHvJT)
---
I prefer fire.

Posted by: James Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:02 PM (YOhRS)

220 Stop that. You're making me feel things.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (NWiLs)

Please.
You think *I'm* used to getting all soft and tender over some jamoke I never met IRL??

I can barely stand the people I know in meatspace!!

Posted by: kallisto at November 26, 2019 02:02 PM (DJFLF)

221 joncelli

Don't sweat it. Just say "I messed up. I learned from this. "

Then: " I'll take my lumps. I'm over it."

Ask me how I know, with public mistakes in several different careers.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 26, 2019 02:02 PM (u82oZ)

222 215
"rein in", as in to rein in ones horse, not "reign in".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM



We prefer "rain".

Posted by: The Plains of Spain


we don't.

Posted by: The Pleins of Spein at November 26, 2019 02:02 PM (sGtp+)

223 Rush is talking about how the Demolishcrats have decided that an appreciation for a return to right-center politics is a cult.
Posted by: Axeman



Oooooooooooh. The cult of responsibility.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (MjyI6)

224 213 Rush is talking about how the Demolishcrats have decided that an appreciation for a return to right-center politics is a cult.
Posted by: Axeman



The Dems make the nuke missile worshipping cult from "Beneath The Planet of the Apes" seem reasonable and moderate.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (vN4+Q)

225 I used to think foreign aid was a huge waste, but now I realize that at least it helps Hunter Biden pay child support for his illegitimate children.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (FJYfm)

226 Trump actually is hardcore on the budget, but nobody listens in congress. He submits deep cuts every time in his budgets, and is for the first time in my life actually, materially, cutting the size and scope of the executive department. But he's screwed up twice signing "continuing resolutions" which bloat the debt enormously, so I can't give him full credit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (KZzsI)

227 Smash Lampjaw!
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM (mpeBU)
--------
Prior to developing my foolproof test data creation strategy I was asked to provide some candidate score reports for a client and apparently Big McLargehuge and Stump Chunkman were singled out as two of their favorites. They also asked to please refrain from using these names in the future.

Posted by: jhawk90 at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (Xvo1a)

228 The Empress would have found a Mongolian pop station I bet

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (khWoy)

229 Which Turkey was the winner?? I voted for Bread!

Posted by: Jmel at November 26, 2019 02:04 PM (ycnwd)

230 221 joncelli

Don't sweat it. Just say "I messed up. I learned from this. "

Then: " I'll take my lumps. I'm over it."

Ask me how I know, with public mistakes in several different careers.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 26, 2019 02:02 PM (u82oZ)

I doubt I'm going to get fired, but there will be new procedures and hectoring from my boss and general embarrassment because I'm the freaking editor and we're not supposed to make editorial errors and oh boy is there going to be booze.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

231 I'm only happy when it reigns.

Posted by: Garbage at November 26, 2019 02:04 PM (YOhRS)

232 The Left and people in this country who always vote for them are so stupid. Don't they realize if we didn't have to deal with the border crisis and the illegals and all the freebies they get , there would be more money freed up for more freebies for native-born AMERICANS?

The Democrat Politician who points this out would go far.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2019 02:04 PM (CqE5x)

233 Which Turkey was the winner?? I voted for Bread!
Posted by: Jmel


I saw Bread open for The Glass Bottle in '78 at the Orpheum.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (MjyI6)

234 If I had to guess, it would be that Trump's approach to the budget is to make the American economy the world's b#tch. He is adamant about re-negotiating/killing all trade agreements rigged against American businesses, and he really is done with how China has played us for decades.

He's also all about ending all of the costly international stuff, such as by making other NATO countries pay their share, about no longer contributing to all that UN BS stuff (human rights council or whatever), not entering costly the Paris Accord.

Trump is about a completely different mindset - instead of starting the conversation with "I'm from America, how much do you want/need?" it's, "I'm from America, why should I invest in your program? What's in it for us?" This is a paradigm shift.


Now THAT is yuuuuge!

Posted by: Lizzy at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (bDqIh)

235 It's the cognitive dissonance.

I attended a college seminar (many years ago...like very many) entitled "Government as the Enemy" which peaked my curiosity. Of course I wound up disappointed, as the lecturers' end goals wound up being to discuss how to get the populous from stop being perceived as an enemy, rather than really address meaningfully how government steals your liberties and labor.

In any event, one of the things that always stuck with me was the approval rating analysis. Well over 70% held a negative opinion of Congress, but when asked what they thought of their congressman, approval ratings hovered around 60% to the good.

And that's how it is with the budget. Nearly everyone will agree the budget deficit is an atrocity, but if you ask them if they would like the programs they use cut, most will oppose cuts that effect them. Ask them if they would like government funded projects slated for their particular region cut, and they will tell you they do not.

So basically people are self-serving hypocrites.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (E6v3M)

236 But he's screwed up twice signing "continuing resolutions" which bloat the debt enormously, so I can't give him full credit.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:03 PM (KZzsI)

He's been remarkably effective in most other areas. He cannot force Congress to submit a sane budget, or at least he has not yet figured out a way. I give him full credit, less a few side eyes for some 2A foolishness.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (1CjJc)

237 The stock market has gained $5 trillion in value in a couple years.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (EHb8x)

238
Bloomberg "news" - Breaking News!!! House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4. Because the first round went so well for them

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 02:06 PM (mpeBU)

239 I'm better than that other guy!

Posted by: Throck Buckmorton at November 26, 2019 02:06 PM (7JAmt)

240
Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.

Posted by: joncelli


I'm sorry if you were offended by this

It was an error in judgement

I'm taking full responsibility

Now shut up and go away

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:06 PM (+Z+gl)

241 235 It's the cognitive dissonance.

I attended a college seminar (many years ago...like very many) entitled "Government as the Enemy" which peaked my curiosity. Of course I wound up disappointed, as the lecturers' end goals wound up being to discuss how to get the populous from stop being perceived as an enemy, rather than really address meaningfully how government steals your liberties and labor.

In any event, one of the things that always stuck with me was the approval rating analysis. Well over 70% held a negative opinion of Congress, but when asked what they thought of their congressman, approval ratings hovered around 60% to the good.

And that's how it is with the budget. Nearly everyone will agree the budget deficit is an atrocity, but if you ask them if they would like the programs they use cut, most will oppose cuts that effect them. Ask them if they would like government funded projects slated for their particular region cut, and they will tell you they do not.

So basically people are self-serving hypocrites.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (E6v3M)

This is why I should be dictator. I have one pet program and it's really cheap. Epaulettes for everyone.

Posted by: Someguy at November 26, 2019 02:07 PM (O+iVW)

242 The stock market has gained $5 trillion in value in a couple years.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (EHb8x)


It will never recover.


-- Some expert

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 02:07 PM (mpeBU)

243 budget deficit; the only practical solution:

1) New "Base Closing Commission," with
2) Bipartisan buy-in.

There will have to be the mother of all financial crises first, though.

Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (Cssks)

244 oh boy is there going to be booze.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 02:04 PM (RD7QR)

I messed up big working a campaign a while back. Had two shots of scotch and a beer, and I didn't GAF. Then I stayed up overnight and fixed 99.5% of it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (1CjJc)

245 there's only a handful of us here, socking ourselves...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:35 PM (8D42x)



I don't know about the rest of you but I'm not that flexible.


... oh wait, he said SOCKING... never mind

Posted by: Diesel Jones at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (0CeRG)

246 #14, not necessarily in DC. I am a humble GS target tech at a major post in the Midwest. Making sure targets go up, down, and score reliably is moderately important for the kids still in uniform to train and is basically a "somebody is here whenever a range is hot" job.

Compared to the GS-15s sitting around surfing porn at the Department of Agriculture, we're a bit more mission-essential I think.

Posted by: Colonel Kurtz at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (rGgyS)

247 Bloomberg "news" - Breaking News!!! House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4. Because the first round went so well for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 02:06 PM (mpeBU)

This is Nadler's committee, right?

It's obvious they're hoping for a Watergate replay. Remember in that , things only became known because they held endless hearings and it was drip, drip, drip with a bombshell every now and then to keep it going.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (CqE5x)

248

>>>Bloomberg "news" - Breaking News!!! House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4. Because the first round went so well for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan




Did I not tell you all this was the plan.

Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (fVTyj)

249 Has Krugtron been reduced to an under bridge dwelling troll?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (khWoy)

250 piqued, not peaked

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 02:09 PM (m45I2)

251 *points dick to point*

Point is. Fix it on your terms, so hectoring boss does not have to fix it for you.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:09 PM (1CjJc)

252 What are we spending this year's Obama Stimulus $800B on?

Hey, why is our infrastructure still in such bad shape?

Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at November 26, 2019 02:09 PM (0GvUH)

253 piqued, not peaked
Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 02:09 PM (m45I2)

....

Thank you.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2019 02:10 PM (E6v3M)

254
We prefer "rain".
Posted by: The Plains of Spain at November 26, 2019 02:00 PM (QHvJT)






Yeah, we blame it too.

*record skips repeatedly*

Posted by: Milli Vanilli at November 26, 2019 02:10 PM (kw0bd)

255 248

>>>Bloomberg "news" - Breaking News!!! House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4. Because the first round went so well for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan




Did I not tell you all this was the plan.
Posted by: Soothsayer at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (fVTyj)

==========

Are they extensions of what Schiff was doing at Intelligence, or is Nadler looking into different things?

Also, this doesn't feel like a timeline that gets this stuff done before the end of the year. The longer they wait, the more likely any vote will happen after primary voting has begun, which seems like a bad strategy.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:10 PM (q80AH)

256
Who remembers the Potemkin Village Theatre Players production of, "Sure, Fiscal Responsibility!" early in Barky's first term when he convened the heads of Cabinet departments and the press oohed and aahed over spending reductions to be attained by buying in bulk and leveraging federal purchases. Fooking peanuts those "savings" were ... but Dogeater was so dreamy for seizing the initiative on spending!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 02:10 PM (pNxlR)

257 This is why I should be dictator. I have one pet program and it's really cheap. Epaulettes for everyone.
Posted by: Someguy at November 26, 2019 02:07 PM (O+iVW)


Throw in a jetpack for everyone, and you win in a landslide.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:11 PM (FJYfm)

258 Have you ever seen the rein?

Posted by: Santa Fogerty at November 26, 2019 02:11 PM (1XNk8)

259 Beautiful blog post, Insomniac!

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:11 PM (Rw8Ov)

260 OT: finally watched that video of the dog visiting the WH the other day. That dog REALLY liked Mike Pence. It was cute.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 02:11 PM (vN4+Q)

261 Epaulettes are not cheap, buddy.

Posted by: Elton John at November 26, 2019 02:11 PM (1ISKN)

262 I saw Bread open for The Glass Bottle in '78 at the Orpheum.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (MjyI6)

-----

Wow.... to see that concert your are either giving Everything Thing I Own.... or..... It Dont Matter to Me.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

263 Later, morons.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:12 PM (1CjJc)

264 never seen the rein. but, i did see a bad moon risin.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at November 26, 2019 02:12 PM (KP5rU)

265 Refusing to secure the border because you don't want to "waste" political capital that can be spent on entitlement reform makes no sense.

We're allowing tens of millions of third-world poor to come live here and breed here, and most of them are either on our welfare rolls under phony names, or soon will be. Plus they are spawning "American" kids in our hospitals, at our expense, who are immediately entitled to partake in all the various welfare programs, and do so, often for several generations.

We're never going to "reform" entitlements so long as we continue to allow millions more entitlement recipients to swarm across our border every damn year, and giving automatic citizenship to the entitlement-recipient children they spawn here.

Border security and entitlement reform are tied together. And we should stop pretending otherwise.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 26, 2019 02:13 PM (k4dH2)

266 Light the lamps! General quarters!

Going to Defcon 2! This is not a drill! Repeat. This is not a drill!

Deny! Deny! Deny!

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:55 PM (MjyI6)

Can you blame the Russians?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:56 PM (1CjJc)

[Perks up] Maybe hacking? This has potential...

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

why not worked for huma's hub.... wait, it worked for hilla... erm... it must have worked for someone

once

maybe...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:13 PM (8D42x)

267
BUCK THROCKMORTON
BEFORE HE BUCKS YOU!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 02:13 PM (pNxlR)

268 In France they actually have pique-nique areas for outdoor meals.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 02:14 PM (m45I2)

269 oh boy is there going to be booze.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 02:04 PM (RD7QR)



So this thing you did, is this something like what is referred to as a mistake?

I have heard of these.

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:14 PM (HALdu)

270
What are we spending this year's Obama Stimulus $800B on?

"Consultants"
"Surveys"
"Studies"

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:14 PM (+Z+gl)

271
What are we spending this year's Obama Stimulus $800B on?

Hey, why is our infrastructure still in such bad shape?
Posted by: Moron Robbie is a Proud Black Woman - my word as a Biden at November 26, 2019 02:09 PM (0GvUH)





Are you kidding? We made BANK.

Posted by: Every Road Sign Printer In The US at November 26, 2019 02:14 PM (kw0bd)

272 piqued, not peaked
Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 02:09 PM (m45I2)

....

Thank you.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2019 02:10 PM (E6v3M)

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Pique a boo..... I seeeeee you.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:15 PM (8XRCm)

273 I wish there was a legitimate "don't tax and don't spend" party, and not the existing "tax and spend" and "don't tax but keep spending" parties.

Posted by: Nick Nackpaddywhach at November 26, 2019 02:16 PM (PFNZR)

274 In France they actually have pique-nique areas for outdoor meals.
Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 02:14 PM (m45I2)

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Watch for the pique pockets tho.... theyll rob you blind.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:16 PM (8XRCm)

275
This is Nadler's committee, right?


Yes, it's a punt to the gunt.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 02:16 PM (pNxlR)

276 In 2012 Gary Johnson was running with the message that - at the time - the government was borrowing 41 cents of every dollar it spent.

And that as a result, we should cut spending 41%.

So, first, it was absolutely true. And second, that message goes nowhere.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 02:16 PM (9VeU0)

277 Posted by: Michelle Fields at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (QHvJT)

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I laughed.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 01:58 PM (q80AH)

this never gets old

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:17 PM (8D42x)

278
Why did I climb Pique's Peak? Because it was fair. I climbed the good mountains later on.

Posted by: Zombie George Mallory at November 26, 2019 02:17 PM (kw0bd)

279 >>>Bloomberg "news" - Breaking News!!! House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4. Because the first round went so well for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan


I'm sure there will be bombshell after bombshell on December 4th, rapidly forcing the walls to close-in on Imposter-President Trump!!!!

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019 02:17 PM (AMIL/)

280 >>>to cut funding to PBS

Surely that's a goal whose time has come. I can't even imagine an argument against it.

Posted by: m at November 26, 2019 02:17 PM (KXX3K)

281 I wish there was a legitimate "don't tax and don't spend" party, and not the existing "tax and spend" and "don't tax but keep spending" parties.
Posted by: Nick Nackpaddywhach at November 26, 2019 02:16 PM (PFNZR)

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Sign me up for the Leave Me The Fuck Alone And Hands Off My Paycheck Party.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:17 PM (8XRCm)

282 5 Who is this BUCK THROCKMORTON? And how did he get the keys to the blog?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:29 PM (1CjJc)

I'd like to know, because odd as it sounds, Throckmorton is a big name in Texas. Town and County of Throckmorton, also a major road through downtown Fort Worth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:17 PM (Kpl3J)

283
And after that, I climbed Pike's Pique, because I totally flubbed the joke.

Posted by: Zombie George Mallory at November 26, 2019 02:18 PM (kw0bd)

284 I don't think Nadler's hearings will have witnesses. That was Schiff's thing. It is just going to be the committee debating what the counts are going to be on the Bill of Impeachment.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 02:19 PM (9VeU0)

285 I once bought a pig in a poque.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 26, 2019 02:19 PM (m45I2)

286 I don't think Nadler's hearings will have witnesses. That was Schiff's thing. It is just going to be the committee debating what the counts are going to be on the Bill of Impeachment.

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Schiff was given the hearing assignment because Nadler is incompetent.

Ponder THAT for a bit if you will.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (8XRCm)

287 Was over at another military blog earlier. The supergeniuses over there are arguing whether or not Trump gets to run for reelection if he is impeached.

Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)

288 The Poque's played French punk-folk music.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (vN4+Q)

289 I wish there was a legitimate "don't tax and don't spend" party, and not the existing "tax and spend" and "don't tax but keep spending" parties.
Posted by: Nick Nackpaddywhach at November 26, 2019 02:16 PM (PFNZR)


Serious question: are the Democrats actually the "Tax and spend" party? They're definitely the "spend" party, but they had plenty of time under Obama to increase taxes and didn't really do much of that when they were in charge.

I don't think the Dems really care about taxing, the rhetoric about making billionaires pay their fair share seems like their version of kabuke theatre.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (KUaJL)

290 House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4.

Dear Wile E.,

Damn, son. Give it up.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (Boy/L)

291
199 Ahhhh, pettiness. One of my most favorite things.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (mf5HN)


It provides you with an excuse to parade around in your exquisite collection of petticoats, though, so there's that in its favor.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (pNxlR)

292 Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)


Because he didn't. He was impeached in 1998. In his second term.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (9VeU0)

293 I don't think Nadler's hearings will have witnesses. That was Schiff's thing. It is just going to be the committee debating what the counts are going to be on the Bill of Impeachment.

Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 02:19 PM (9VeU0)




Nadlers hearing won;t have witnesses it should have hecklers.

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:21 PM (HALdu)

294 Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations

Brietbart
LOL

I guess your wing man is hanging you out to dry ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:21 PM (cEsBM)

295 Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."

Clinton was impeached in '98.

And some people need to read the Constitution.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:21 PM (Boy/L)

296 Plus there's the FACT that the national debt CAN NEVER BE PAID DOWN.

It's just not mathematically possible and hasn't been for over 60 years.

In my years of observation the way it goes is when the Dems get in they vote for more giveaways and reduce money to defense Whereas the Reps take away money from the giveaways and giver money to defense.

Neither plan works. And although we could strive for a lower deficit, that too is becoming mathematically difficult at best and pretty much politically impossible.

Until everyone accepts these facts, no sane budget plan will get approved. And by everyone, I mean the people of the country and the politicians.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (cxIsI)

297 Schiff was given the hearing assignment because Nadler is incompetent.

Ponder THAT for a bit if you will.



Our Betters!

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (vN4+Q)

298 And if they stare
Just let them burn their eyes
On you moving.
And if they shout
Don't let it change a thing
That you're going.

Hold your pants up, oh
Hold your pants up, oh
Hold your pants up, oh
Hold your pants high.
Hold your pants up, oh
Hold your pants up, oh
Hold your pants up, oh
Hold your pants high.



(Apology to Zombies everywhere)

Posted by: The Jerry Nadler Song at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (qEujL)

299 Sad. Budget hawk fraud went so well with a side of failure theater.

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (3Ndqj)

300 Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations

Profiles in courage there, Steadman.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (Boy/L)

301
Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)


No, he did not. He was impeached during his second term.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (pNxlR)

302
On December 4th, a woman will allege that Trump assaulted her with a quid pro quo on emoluments to avoid his tax returns being hacked by the Ukrainians under the 25th Amendment.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (+Z+gl)

303 And after that, I climbed Pike's Pique, because I totally flubbed the joke.
Posted by: Zombie George Mallory at November 26, 2019 02:18 PM (kw0bd)

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Pike's Pique Peek has a railing so you dont fall down the mountain.

Seriously. The summit of Pikes Peak is my favorite place on the planet. It is extra splendorful in the evening as the sun sets and one watches the shadow reach out and touch Nebraska.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM (8XRCm)

304 287 Was over at another military blog earlier. The supergeniuses over there are arguing whether or not Trump gets to run for reelection if he is impeached.

Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)

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Wut?

Clinton got impeached in his second term.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:23 PM (q80AH)

305 I once bought a pig in a poque.

I bought pig in a pack.

OK, it was bacon. Still counts, doesn't it?

Posted by: Blanco Basura - Not scanning your email for ad targeting at November 26, 2019 02:23 PM (xkSJa)

306
Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations


Chinless, ball-less and stupid is no way to go through life, E.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 02:23 PM (pNxlR)

307 On December 4th, a woman will allege that Trump assaulted her with a quid pro quo on emoluments to avoid his tax returns being hacked by the Ukrainians under the 25th Amendment.

While being peed on by Brett Kavanaugh.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:24 PM (Boy/L)

308 Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)

Because he didn't. He was impeached in 1998. In his second term.
Posted by: blaster at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (9VeU0)




dammit

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:24 PM (HALdu)

309 And that's how it is with the budget. Nearly everyone will agree the budget deficit is an atrocity, but if you ask them if they would like the programs they use cut, most will oppose cuts that effect them. Ask them if they would like government funded projects slated for their particular region cut, and they will tell you they do not.

So basically people are self-serving hypocrites.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at November 26, 2019 02:05 PM (E6v3M)


Bobby Jindal was reelected with nearly Huey Long levels of support. Then the LA economy took a huge hit and there was no money so he went in and made cuts. Deep cuts. Unpopular cuts. Cuts that had to be done because there was no money.

I remember reading at the time a blog post from a guy whose father lived in LA. The posters was supposedly a huge conservative (which was verifiable from other posts) and a fiscal hawk. But! But those cuts resulted in the hospital closest to his father having to close some programs due to lack of funds from the state and now his father would have to travel an extra 25 miles or so, which was an actual hardship given his father's health.

The poster railed on and on and on and on and on about how terrible Jindal was and I thought this is why nothing ever gets cut. Because the people screaming the loudest for cuts scream even louder when those cuts impact them.

I believe Jindal's approval ratings were in the 20s when he left office.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 02:24 PM (mf5HN)

310
Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations

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I guessing Brian Terry's death has more to do with that than Hussein did you chinless dickhole.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:24 PM (8XRCm)

311 294 Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations

Brietbart
LOL

I guess your wing man is hanging you out to dry ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup



You served the god-king's purpose, Eric. That is it's own reward. Be thankful.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 02:24 PM (vN4+Q)

312 I was reading the Chive, as one does, and someone had a story about his car being stolen. However, the thief was unaware that the gas gauge was broken and thus that full sign wasn't so much with the true. Thief made it four blocks before the car ran out of gas.

In retaliation, the thief tuned the radio to all country stations and then ripped off the knobs.

Ahhhh, pettiness. One of my most favorite things.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (mf5HN


Reminds me of the story about the Cleveland guy who left his two Browns tickets on the dashboard of his car when we went grocery shopping, and when he got back out, the window was smashed and there were four Browns tickets on the dashboard.

Posted by: OregonMuse, AoSHQ Thought Leader, Pants Monitor & Austere Religious Scholar at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (zGtXn)

313 309
The poster railed on and on and on and on and on about how terrible Jindal was and I thought this is why nothing ever gets cut. Because the people screaming the loudest for cuts scream even louder when those cuts impact them.

I believe Jindal's approval ratings were in the 20s when he left office.
Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 02:24 PM (mf5HN)

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In my own defense, I would vote for someone who promised and delivered on the promise to end Social Security and Medicare in their totality even though I'd never get back my "investment" into the programs.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (q80AH)

314 You know, it might just be that ole TFG only cares about ole TFG.

Just a thought for those wanting his blessing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (Boy/L)

315
So:
Any line item that has no graft built into it will not be passed or approved.
Therefore, all line items passed or approved have graft built in.

Argot: any budget item eliminated eliminates graft, which is to say, someone in DCs pay.

Cut aid to Palenstein, someone's kid in DC gets no Christmas this year.
Posted by: David Prince at November 26, 2019 01:39 PM (JkygK)


Ahh.

The way a bureaucracy feeds itself and grows.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (sy5kK)

316 287 Was over at another military blog earlier. The supergeniuses over there are arguing whether or not Trump gets to run for reelection if he is impeached.

Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)



Clinton was impeached in 1998-ish.


His second term.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (zVXtJ)

317 Schiff was given the hearing assignment because Nadler is incompetent.

Ponder THAT for a bit if you will.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (8XRCm)


Do the Dems have ANY competent Committee Chairs in this session? Nancy must have pulled every trick in her playbook to keep Maxine Wig-Wearer from getting a chairmanship, but she ran out of tricks. And I'm sure she just can't wait for Sheila Jackson-Lee and that mini-cowboy hat clown in Florida to have top Dem seniority in their committees.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019 02:26 PM (AMIL/)

318 Obama Reportedly Told Deval Patrick Its Too Late to Enter Presidential Race

Breitbart

Actually Fredo os correct about this one

There is little room in Fredo's heart for anyone but Fredo

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:26 PM (cEsBM)

319 318 Obama Reportedly Told Deval Patrick Its Too Late to Enter Presidential Race

Breitbart

Actually Fredo os correct about this one

There is little room in Fredo's heart for anyone but Fredo
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:26 PM (cEsBM)

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Dude is talking shit about all the candidates now.

It must be chaos in the upper echelons of power within the Democratic Party.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)

320 Tiger Sauce is like Zen. Both go well with chicken, pork and fish.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (yRAFu)

321 Was over at another military blog earlier. The supergeniuses over there are arguing whether or not Trump gets to run for reelection if he is impeached.

Not one fucking supergenius thought to mention, "clinton did."

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:20 PM (HALdu)

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Its because it was already his second term.

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (8XRCm)

322 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate

Hey here is a novel idea: Why not pick the most qualified person?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (cEsBM)

323 321
Its because it was already his second term.
Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (8XRCm)

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Hilarious...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)

324 322 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate

Hey here is a novel idea: Why not pick the most qualified person?
Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (cEsBM)

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I hope she picks Hillary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:28 PM (q80AH)

325 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate

Because that'll win back the male vote.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:28 PM (Boy/L)

326
"chinless dickhole"

dickless chinhole works here too....

Posted by: Amy Schumer at November 26, 2019 02:28 PM (8XRCm)

327 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate




A Two Gash ticket.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:29 PM (Vddbf)

328 In my own defense, I would vote for someone who promised and delivered on the promise to end Social Security and Medicare in their totality even though I'd never get back my "investment" into the programs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (q80AH)



The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. I'm upper end Gen X and it's been that way since I was in my late teens.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 02:29 PM (mf5HN)

329 'Sup, y'all?

Posted by: Weasel at November 26, 2019 02:29 PM (MVjcR)

330 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate

Hey here is a novel idea: Why not pick the most qualified person?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (cEsBM)

so faux-ahauntas and the faux-gov would be my guess.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:29 PM (8D42x)

331 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate

Because that'll win back the male vote.
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:28 PM (Boy/L)

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Yay..... "My Ex Wife / My Mother In Law - 2020" would be a KILLER ticket.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:30 PM (8XRCm)

332 A Two Gash ticket.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:29 PM (Vddbf)




Sure but the twitter handle is ready

#gash

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:30 PM (HALdu)

333 BUCK THROCKMORTON OF SPADES GETS IT

Posted by: x at November 26, 2019 02:30 PM (nFwvY)

334

The headlines in 10 seconds will read Trump pardons turkey with white feathers because RACIST!!!!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 02:30 PM (kw5n8)

335 328
The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. I'm upper end Gen X and it's been that way since I was in my late teens.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 02:29 PM (mf5HN)

==========

I remember being told matter of factly in elementary school that I'd never get Social Security.

I'm good with it. Let's end it now.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

336 Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations

Brietbart
LOL

I guess your wing man is hanging you out to dry ha?

Posted by: Nevergiveup


You served the god-king's purpose, Eric. That is it's own reward. Be thankful.
Posted by: Puddleglum


SWEEP THE LEG BARR!!!
Indict Holder. He'll flip.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (Vddbf)

337 328 In my own defense, I would vote for someone who promised and delivered on the promise to end Social Security and Medicare in their totality even though I'd never get back my "investment" into the programs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (q80AH)


The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. I'm upper end Gen X and it's been that way since I was in my late teens.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around



Yep. I figure what I am paying into now will help my parents (76 & 80) and grandmother (she's 100). I won't see a dime though.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (vN4+Q)

338
Yay..... "My Ex Wife / My Mother In Law - 2020" would be a KILLER ticket.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:30 PM (8XRCm)


I can't stop laughing.

Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (TdMsT)

339 I remember being told matter of factly in elementary school that I'd never get Social Security.

I'm good with it. Let's end it now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)



Make it need based so you have to admit you are getting welfare.

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (HALdu)

340 >>Seriously. The summit of Pikes Peak is my favorite place on the
planet. It is extra splendorful in the evening as the sun sets and one
watches the shadow reach out and touch Nebraska.

See???I told you Colorado was sexually harassing me - getting all handsy at sunset when it thinks no one's looking. #MeToo

Posted by: Nebraska at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (bDqIh)

341 Republicans ran on repealing Obamacare. When they had the chance, they didn't.

Republicans ran on securing the border. When they had the chance, they didn't.

Republicans ran on reducing Government. When they had the chance, they didn't.

What exactly do Republicans stand for any more?

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (O7MnT)

342 A chef tried out for his local football team. Despite everyone's expectations, he made the team.

For personal branding reasons, he refused to wear a helmet, insisting on his chef's hat.

On the second play of the game, he took a handoff, broke around the right side, and commenced a long run toward the goal line.

Sadly, he was stopped just short of scoring a touchdown on his first run. The ferocity of the tackle, however, caused his hat to fly off, and travel forward.

This became immortalized as "One Toque over the Line".

Posted by: Duncanthrax The Austere at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (QHvJT)

343 314 You know, it might just be that ole TFG only cares about ole TFG.

Just a thought for those wanting his blessing.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (Boy/L)


While he's alive, I'll bet TFG works to keep any black from becoming POTUS. He'd love to be the "one and only."

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (AMIL/)

344 Steel Rageshaft

Posted by: monkey at November 26, 2019 02:33 PM (CLteG)

345 338
Yay..... "My Ex Wife / My Mother In Law - 2020" would be a KILLER ticket.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:30 PM (8XRCm)


I can't stop laughing.
Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (TdMsT)

FOUR YEARS OF HECTORING Hectoring hectoring!

Posted by: Imagine a drag race voiceover here at November 26, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)

346 The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. I'm upper end Gen X and it's been that way since I was in my late teens.


That's why I married a Millennial... to support me in my dotage.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:33 PM (O7MnT)

347 Steel Rageshaft

Big McLargeHuge!

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:34 PM (O7MnT)

348 Karl D would like a word with your Doctors admin's.
Or the apocalypse.

Posted by: DaveA at November 26, 2019 02:34 PM (FhXTo)

349 While he's alive, I'll bet TFG works to keep any black from becoming POTUS. He'd love to be the "one and only."

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (AMIL/)

2nd, after billy-jeff

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:34 PM (8D42x)

350 In my own defense, I would vote for someone who promised and delivered on the promise to end Social Security and Medicare in their totality even though I'd never get back my "investment" into the programs.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:25 PM (q80AH)


The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. I'm upper end Gen X and it's been that way since I was in my late teens.

Posted by: alexthechick


You want to talk about finishing what the Canadians started snd watch Washington burn to the ground?

I'm within five years of SS after paying my whole fucking working life at the point of a gun.

You want to talk about a line in the sand?

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:34 PM (Vddbf)

351 While he's alive, I'll bet TFG works to keep any black from becoming POTUS. He'd love to be the "one and only."
Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019



Is holder black black or kind of black as Obama is? That is what Obama want to stop, someone blacker than he is from getting the office.

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (HALdu)

352 155 147 Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (RD7QR)


There's mistakes, and then there's mistakes. In the big picture, your's was nothing. I always think of a story my sister in law told me, about when she was an RN working the late shift at a local hospital, she was assigned to go around and give all the patients their overnight medicines, mostly while they were asleep. So she made the rounds, got back to the supply cabinet, and was horrified to realize that she had accidentally swapped bottles and given one patient a powerful heart medicine when he was supposed to get antibiotics. She was horrified, she said she felt paralyzed when she realized what had happened, was sure she would be fired immediately. So she worked up the nerve to go tell her supervisor, who could see the terror in her face.

and then came the punchline: Supervisor replied "Oh, THAT"s all? Hon, we all do that from time to time. Don't worry about it." (the patient luckily did not show ill effects)

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (Kpl3J)

353
FOUR YEARS OF HECTORING Hectoring hectoring!
Posted by: Imagine a drag race voiceover here at November 26, 2019 02:33 PM (RD7QR)


I represent this statement!

Posted by: Ladyl at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (TdMsT)

354 341 Republicans ran on repealing Obamacare. When they had the chance, they didn't.
Republicans ran on securing the border. When they had the chance, they didn't.

Republicans ran on reducing Government. When they had the chance, they didn't.

What exactly do Republicans stand for any more?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (O7MnT)

VTK you hit the nail square.

John Boehner and Paul Ryan are certified Pieces of Shit

Posted by: monkey at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (CLteG)

355 I remember being told matter of factly in elementary school that I'd never get Social Security.

I'm good with it. Let's end it now.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (q80AH)

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Do an analysis sometime on how your current benefits rate of return compares with how your Soc Sec benefits would be if you invested in ..... lets say... the DOW or SP500.

I did that once. To keep the math easy and the spreadsheet shorter... I used quarterly compounding and contributions rather than bi weekly.

And I still came in with a nest egg of over 2.75 MILLION dollars. MILLION..... like I could retire YEARS AGO. On my wages, not including my wifes.

It STILL pisses me off it does.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)

356 former sec nav spensor is a bitter old man

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:36 PM (cEsBM)

357 >>
Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations


Wow, Obama's gettin' busy behind the scenes - dissing Biden, Bernie and Warren, and then ignoring Holder.
You would think someone in the MSM might ask him to make a public statement, but they're just as happy relaying his various opinions to voters via anonymous friends.

As usual, Obama won't own anything, just voting present, 'not dong stupid sh#t,' and being 'just muscular enough to not be mocked.'

Posted by: Nebraska at November 26, 2019 02:36 PM (bDqIh)

358 Do you think some actuary ran the numbers and told the govt they just have to ride the wave for 20 years and the boomers all die and take their social security liabilities with them?

Posted by: Tonic Dog at November 26, 2019 02:36 PM (+P7VR)

359 355
I did that once. To keep the math easy and the spreadsheet shorter... I used quarterly compounding and contributions rather than bi weekly.

And I still came in with a nest egg of over 2.75 MILLION dollars. MILLION..... like I could retire YEARS AGO. On my wages, not including my wifes.

It STILL pisses me off it does.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)

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I read that you'd get a better return from just investing the money in low return T-bills than what you actually get from social security.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:36 PM (q80AH)

360 Make it need based so you have to admit you are getting welfare.
Posted by: not so


Until you give me back every penny I've paid into it, it'll never be welfare.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (Vddbf)

361 324
322 Elizabeth Warren Signals Shell Pick a Woman as Running Mate



Hey here is a novel idea: Why not pick the most qualified person?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (cEsBM)



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I hope she picks Hillary.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:28 PM (q80AH)

I am copyrighting President Elizabeth Warren did not kill herself.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (1CjJc)

362 While he's alive, I'll bet TFG works to keep any black from becoming POTUS. He'd love to be the "one and only."

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (AMIL/)


While he's alive... Yikes! I denounce myself.

Posted by: Gref at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (AMIL/)

363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)

364 12 DAMN I READ THE CONTENT
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

Yeah. Wall o'Text.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:31 PM (MjyI6)

Buck: Shorten the paragraphs, please! To retain our Moron attention and to de-glazen our eyes. See CBD's Morning Rant, for example. Much appreciated.

Posted by: m at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (KXX3K)

365 Madison

Where will you run on the platform you announced?

I don't think you'll have to worry much about the cost of living in D.C.

Posted by: mnw at November 26, 2019 02:38 PM (Cssks)

366 I was reading the Chive, as one does, and someone had a story about his car being stolen. However, the thief was unaware that the gas gauge was broken and thus that full sign wasn't so much with the true. Thief made it four blocks before the car ran out of gas.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (mf5HN)

Ah, someone besides me who reads the Chive "for the articles"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2019 02:38 PM (qAR6u)

367 Dude is talking shit about all the candidates now.

It must be chaos in the upper echelons of power within the Democratic Party.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:27 PM (q80AH)

It's so bad that they are giving serious consideration to having Obama actually endorse Trump in the hope that Shit-Midas does his usual thing.....

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2019 02:38 PM (CqE5x)

368

Outdoor meals ...damn is that you Al Fresca...I'll have flies with that!!!

Posted by: saf at November 26, 2019 02:38 PM (5IHGB)

369
and then came the punchline: Supervisor replied "Oh, THAT"s all? Hon, we all do that from time to time. Don't worry about it." (the patient luckily did not show ill effects)
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (Kpl3J)

Mixed medication has been a huge issue in hospitals for forever. There's a reason why most hospitals nowadays give you a bar code wristband when you check in. It's become standard procedure for nurses to scan the patient's wristband and scan the medication to double check to match what their EMR says they should be taking to make sure you're giving the right thing to the right patient.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 26, 2019 02:38 PM (KUaJL)

370 It's getting more and more tempting to adopt as my battle cry, "Let the millenials pay for it!"

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 26, 2019 02:39 PM (6jStn)

371 John Boehner and Paul Ryan are certified Pieces of Shit

Yeah, Paul Ryan was happy to move from Wisconsin to suburban DC and start himself a whole new moneyraising organization.


https://americanideafoundation.com/

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:39 PM (O7MnT)

372 I read that you'd get a better return from just investing the money in low return T-bills than what you actually get from social security.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:36 PM (q80AH)

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You'd be money head if you just stuffed it under your mattress.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:39 PM (8XRCm)

373 The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. I'm upper end Gen X and it's been that way since I was in my late teens.

Posted by: alexthechick

I'm very late Ok Boomer (probably about the same as Rickb223) and it amuses me greatly to think that we can jump through the open door to SS benefits just before it's gonna slam shut on everyone after us. And once we're in, we'll stand on top of the walls of SS and say to those outside, "Go Away, You Silly GeneX persons, or we shall Taunt you a Second Time."

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:40 PM (Kpl3J)

374 SWEEP THE LEG BARR!!!
Indict Holder. He'll flip.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:31 PM (Vddbf)


Holder and the other thug wannabes should've been kicked out of Columbia in the late 60s when they occupied the administration building. Would've nipped that whining voiced chinless shitstain's Double Naught attorney at law career right in the bud.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 02:41 PM (y7DUB)

375 41 Republicans ran on repealing Obamacare. When they had the chance, they didn't.

Republicans ran on securing the border. When they had the chance, they didn't.

Republicans ran on reducing Government. When they had the chance, they didn't.

What exactly do Republicans stand for any more?
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (O7MnT)

Republicans stand for losing with honor, and still getting the invitations to all the good restaurants.

Except for Trump of course, and a few others.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:41 PM (sy5kK)

376 Eric Holder Frustrated Barack Obama Did Not Encourage His Presidential Aspirations



How many years in the future will it be before Dems can publicly say, "You know, Obama was really a selfish arrogant asshole. He never did anything unless it was to help himself"?

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:41 PM (FJYfm)

377 328
The one thing that Gen X agrees on politically is that we will never see a dime of Social Security and probably not get anything from Medicare. Posted by: alexthechick

I've been hearing it since middle school and planned accordingly.

I'm upper Gen X as well. 10 years to retirement. Fortunately, not being stupid, I saved close to a million bucks in my 401K/IRAs. In ten more years, god willing, I should be fine. Naturally I expect democrats to decide to fix social security on may back - let's heavily tax 401Ks! Everyone who saved something - tough shit! It's unfair that you have all that money! And I expect them to tank the stock and bond market. All they have are terrible ideas.

It's the millennial below that are really screwed - at least I didn't start life owing $100k to a progressive university for a useless degree. I could buy a house for <$350k. Public schools were still decent. Sheesh they are really getting screwed. And the same socialists that are screwing them are getting their votes, by promising to stop screwing them and instead screw someone else.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (+DS2f)

378 I'll be pleasantly surprised if I see any of my SSN money.

But I don't plan on retiring. I took my 'retirement' when I was in my 20's.

Fair deal.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (bcbK8)

379 How many years in the future will it be before Dems can publicly say, "You know, Obama was really a selfish arrogant asshole. He never did anything unless it was to help himself"?
Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:41 PM (FJYfm)

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Well.... the Wash Post called him a Conservative yesterday....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (8XRCm)

380 As for McRyanBushRomney holding that political capital for the big budget battle that never was going to be happening...

In all fairness, McRyanBushRomney spent that political capital on wars that always seem to be happening

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (qAR6u)

381 Honestly, Obama will be the only black President. Similar to JFK being the only Catholic one. More likely the next 'special' president will likely be Chinese.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (yRAFu)

382 "Go Away, You Silly GeneX persons, or we shall Taunt you a Second Time."
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:40 PM


We prefer to fart in your general direction.

Posted by: Democrat Congresspersons at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (QHvJT)

383 Honestly, Obama will be the only black President. Similar to JFK being the only Catholic one. More likely the next 'special' president will likely be Chinese.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (yRAFu)

Probably Indian (Dot).

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (CqE5x)

384 On a related issue, whenever I've argued in favor of naval spending, "Budget hawks" always retort with "Oh, so you support government spending when it's on something you like?"

"Providing for a Navy" is literally and explicitly mentioned in the Constitution as something Congress is supposed to spend money on. Find me any other part of federal spending that's true about.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (RIvx9)

385
I can retire comfortably any time I want, assuming I die within two weeks afterwards.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (+Z+gl)

386 Make it need based so you have to admit you are getting welfare.
Posted by: not so


Until you give me back every penny I've paid into it, it'll never be welfare.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (Vddbf)




We're in agreement in theory but it has not worked that way in forever.

Fine with giving everyone back what they paid in and no more.

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (HALdu)

387 366 I was reading the Chive, as one does, and someone had a story about his car being stolen. However, the thief was unaware that the gas gauge was broken and thus that full sign wasn't so much with the true. Thief made it four blocks before the car ran out of gas.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 01:53 PM (mf5HN)

Ah, someone besides me who reads the Chive "for the articles"
Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2019 02:38 PM (qAR6u)

They have articles?

I thought they were a charity that sold teeshirts and boobs

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (bcbK8)

388 I'm very late Ok Boomer (probably about the same as Rickb223) and it amuses me greatly to think that we can jump through the open door to SS benefits just before it's gonna slam shut on everyone after us. And once we're in, we'll stand on top of the walls of SS and say to those outside, "Go Away, You Silly GeneX persons, or we shall Taunt you a Second Time."
Posted by: Tom Servo


I don't expect that, but I do get where all the old people are coming from when they say "hands off".

It'd be one thing if I had joined SS as a gamble, kinda like playing a lottery.

But when the feds MAKE you play as a point of getting a paycheck, yeah, fuck you. Gimme mine.
Especially when they've been paying welfare queens for two and three generations and illegals on SSDI who shouldn't even be here in the first place, let alone never paid a dime into it.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (Vddbf)

389
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You'd be money head if you just stuffed it under your mattress.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:39 PM (8XRCm)

Yep. Then there us poor losers who have paid in, against our will, for 45+ years and will not see a dime.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (O/X1S)

390 387
They have articles?

I thought they were a charity that sold teeshirts and boobs
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (bcbK

==========

John assured me that The Chive would go out of business if Pai repealed Net Neutrality, so I stopped going to the site.

Was he wrong?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:45 PM (q80AH)

391 385
I can retire comfortably any time I want, assuming I die within two weeks afterwards.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (+Z+gl)

Yeah. Right now I'm working on the assumption that I'll either drop at my desk or die in a fiery traffic accident on my way home from work. Not to be all fatalistic or anything.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 02:45 PM (RD7QR)

392 Naturally I expect democrats to decide to fix social security on may back - let's heavily tax 401Ks! Everyone who saved something - tough shit! It's unfair that you have all that money!

Well, especially when Democrats point out that it's mostly older white people who saved that money.

Glad you made it to a million, by the way. I'll be lucky to get to that by the time I retire. But like I said, I married a Millennial.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 26, 2019 02:45 PM (O7MnT)

393

my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.

paid in my whole life.

mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.

now, what was the topic again?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (sy5kK)

394 Yes, the Government took money out of the pockets of future military retirees, at the same time they were breaking the service with way too many deployments.

So, instead of going after the most deserving of a cut, they went after those who, IMO, least deserved any cut.
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 26, 2019 01:36 PM


Just like Chik-Fil-A, when it came time to "focus" their corporate charitable giving, they yanked it from the causes that did the most good, and redirected it to those that fit in more closely with their shiny new commitment to left-wing values.

Posted by: Dr. Mabuse at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (tUO82)

395 363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)

Oh, you are so wrong, really, you are! We DO want you!!! We need you!!! TO PAY OUR BILLS!!!!

Posted by: OK BOOMER at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (Kpl3J)

396 Fine with giving everyone back what they paid in and no more.
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (HALdu)

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When I was younger I ranted that I would sign a contract with Uncle Sam that would let me keep my Soc Sec contributions if I foreswear to never collect a dime of Social Security in the future.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (8XRCm)

397 I can retire comfortably any time I want, assuming I die within two weeks afterwards.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh


I'm doing ok. I can afford to retire to an island.

That one outside the office by the intersection.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (Vddbf)

398 Hector by the Village Callers is a darn funky track.

Props to Tarantino for putting it in a movie soundtrack

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (bcbK8)

399 393

my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.

paid in my whole life.

mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.

now, what was the topic again?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (sy5kK)

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That conservatives don't mean it when they say they want to get federal spending under control.

A completely unrelated topic.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (q80AH)

400 197 194

"rein in", as in to rein in ones horse, not "reign in".

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (pNxlR)

Why must you reign on our parade?
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 01:57 PM (1CjJc)

ha

Ray non.

Posted by: m at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (KXX3K)

401 Does anyone who delivers a "Taxpayer Relief" shot qualify as a Budget Hawk?

Posted by: JB1000 at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (jSar8)

402 393

my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.

paid in my whole life.

mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.

now, what was the topic again?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (sy5kK)

Boobs on The Chive.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 26, 2019 02:47 PM (bcbK8)

403 It STILL pisses me off it does.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)

Bush, to his credit, tired to get a portion of social security invested in the stock market. Democrats eviscerated him for it.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 26, 2019 02:47 PM (+DS2f)

404 340
>>Seriously. The summit of Pikes Peak is my favorite place on the

planet. It is extra splendorful in the evening as the sun sets and one

watches the shadow reach out and touch Nebraska.

See???I told you Colorado was sexually harassing me - getting all handsy at sunset when it thinks no one's looking. #MeToo


Posted by: Nebraska at November 26, 2019 02:32 PM (bDqIh)


Pike's peak once touched my nebraska. Why do you think he's in that wheel chair now?

Posted by: LT Uhura at November 26, 2019 02:48 PM (L4FL3)

405 my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.

paid in my whole life.

mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.

now, what was the topic again?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg


*fistbump

Five at the earliest. Ten at planned.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 02:48 PM (Vddbf)

406 You'd be money head if you just stuffed it under your mattress.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:39 PM (8XRCm)

Do that now and the cops will confiscate it under Civil Asset Forfeiture because "everyone knows" only drug dealers carry more than $20 in cash nowadays.

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2019 02:48 PM (qAR6u)

407 All y'all need to pity Bander. When he calls, I read Chive stuff at him.

Though, to be fair, I always send him links to the really good pics at the Chive.


OH MY STARS AND GARTERS!

God. Emperor. Troll. Trump.

During the turkey pardon:

Bread and Butter were raised to remain calm under any condition, which will be very important, because they've already received supboeans to appear in Adam Schiff's basement on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1199411502681411585

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 02:48 PM (mf5HN)

408 401 Does anyone who delivers a "Taxpayer Relief" shot qualify as a Budget Hawk?
Posted by: JB1000 at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (jSar

We could go all Falkenberg Option for the full Taxpayer Relief.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 02:49 PM (RD7QR)

409 "mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death."

Yay socialism!

Posted by: Chris M at November 26, 2019 02:49 PM (eAZVt)

410 Since younger people profess love for socialism, it's appropriate that they fully support me in my non-working years and provide for all of my needs.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:49 PM (FJYfm)

411 I still want the president to go to this stupid turkey pardon ceremony and cry OFF WITH HIS HEAD!!!! then never do another idiotic stunt pardon again like that.

what a pointless, idiotic waste of time.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:50 PM (KZzsI)

412 393



my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.



paid in my whole life.



mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.



now, what was the topic again?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (sy5kK)



Me too. Funny, in my 20's, I wasn't really this passionate about it.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 02:50 PM (gmo/4)

413
We're in agreement in theory but it has not worked that way in forever.

Fine with giving everyone back what they paid in and no more.
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:44 PM (HALdu)


what about the millions of illegals that are on the government dole the day they get here, and the vast majority are still on it 5 years later?

why not start here, instead of taking money from payees and savers?

because Globalists hate America and want it destroyed financially, and for what it stands for in the world.

and by Globalists, I mean Democrats, living here and elsewhere, like George Soros.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:50 PM (sy5kK)

414 very important, because they've already received supboeans to appear in Adam Schiff's basement on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1199411502681411585
Posted by: alexthechick -

I happened to see that live. A thing of beauty.

Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2019 02:50 PM (O/X1S)

415 I collect a pension and the fund is in critical condition.
The fund never invested in the stock market, because, uh, that would be capitalism.
It also had a number of fund managers who went bye bye with some $.
So, the new fund managers want congress to bail out the fund.
Because, of course they do.

Posted by: navybrat, mostly lurking at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (w7KSn)

416
Just once I'd like to see a president come out with an axe and tell the turkey, "Die, sucker!" WHACK! Thanksgiving dinner.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (+Z+gl)

417 If you can't buck your throckmorton, who's throckmorton can you buck?

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (v0R5T)

418 mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death

Yeah its amazing how hardcore conservative fiscal restraint guys who despise government interference, socialism, and entitlements suddenly get all defensive about them at a certain age.

This is why the debt will get bigger and bigger until we all pay for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (KZzsI)

419 I saved close to a million bucks in my 401K/IRAs
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As you point out:

"And let me tell you, every time you talk about investing in people and their communities, you hear folks say there's not enough money -- what I say to them every single time is, there's plenty of money in this world, there's plenty of money in this country, it's just in the wrong hands." - Bill DeBlasio

“The bottom line is we’re not broke, there’s plenty of money, it’s just the government doesn’t have it,” - Keith Ellison

The same sentiment has been expressed openly by several Dem legislators.

"Once they figure out how to tax capital, the country is done for" -- Soames Forsyte

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (xSo9G)

420 147 139 133 Boy am I in trouble. I am in so much trouble.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:48 PM (RD7QR)

Been having some fun have we?
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at November 26, 2019 01:49 PM (CLteG)

Made a very public editorial error. Which I'm not supposed to do because I'm an editor. I'll be under the desk now.
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 01:50 PM (RD7QR)

jonelli, thanks for following me on twatter. i am back wearing a sock as i was banned you know. like who hasnt been banned by jack?

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (scc3j)

421 Trump orders the two turkeys killed, butchered, cook to perfection and served up a a silver platter with all the trimmings to Conan.

Posted by: Archer at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (gmo/4)

422 okay, to be serious where SS really got wrecked was when it was opened up to Disability Benefits and other payouts that have nothing to with retirement. And I do NOT mean to diss anyone here who honestly has claimed Disability or other benefits, it's just that most working people have no idea how widespread and far reaching the fraud is. I don't have time or space to go into how much survivor's benefits are manipulated.

SS pays billions and billions of dollars each year to people who are young, and who have never contributed one thin dime into the system.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (Kpl3J)

423 It STILL pisses me off it does.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (8XRCm)

Bush, to his credit, tired to get a portion of social security invested in the stock market. Democrats eviscerated him for it.
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 26, 2019 02:47 PM (+DS2f)

-----

Its because privatization would make the program an asset class you actually own. One.... The Barney Fwanks of the world cant spend that money if YOU own it. And TWO.... that just chips away at the intellectual perception that the The Gubmint should be the provider of all things to all people. Hell.... if they actually FIXED Soc Sec and let you actually OWN your own funds.... why ..... people might want to try to make sense of other programs those fucknuts have a lock on like Health Care.... or unemployment insurance.... or education savings....or well .... you get the idea.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (8XRCm)

424 Have we had a funnier President?

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (Sir4Y)

425 ha



Ray non.

Posted by: m at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (KXX3K)

My bag.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (1CjJc)

426 Seriously. The summit of Pikes Peak is my favorite place on the planet. It is extra splendorful in the evening as the sun sets and one watches the shadow reach out and touch Nebraska.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM


Word. Best hike I ever did. I can see why it inspired America the Beautiful.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (ejd/p)

427 Is holder black black or kind of black as Obama is? That is what Obama want to stop, someone blacker than he is from getting the office.
Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:35 PM (HALdu)


His parents were both from Barbados so he's blacker than Gaylord.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (y7DUB)

428 I think Trump could pardon the turkey, and still execute and stuff it.
Bill Clinton pardoned Mark Rich, and then stuffed the guy's wife.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (FJYfm)

429 Two of my kids got survivor benefits after Mrs TP passed. They (me) received about 12 years worth of benefits - pretty much what she paid into it and what a fair market return would have been. So, for her money at least, the family got back a fair payout.

My $ in however, HA!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (Y4EXg)

430 This is why the debt will get bigger and bigger until we all pay for it.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (KZzsI)

The punchline.

Posted by: Someguy at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (O+iVW)

431 395 363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)

Sure feels that way sometimes.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

432 It's the millennial below that are really screwed - at least I didn't start life owing $100k to a progressive university for a useless degree. I could buy a house for
Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (+DS2f)


---

Well said. I personally made out ok thanks to ROTC, but a lot of my generation is simply screwed. The cost of college has increased much faster than wages, or anything else for that matter. Imagine going six figures into debt and then starting your career in Obama's economy.

The appeal of Bernie Sanders to millennials is that he's addressing real problems, but proposing insane solutions. However, many milleninals also lack the wisdom or experience to realize that his solutions are insane.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (RIvx9)

433 what about the millions of illegals that are on the government dole the day they get here, and the vast majority are still on it 5 years later?

why not start here, instead of taking money from payees and savers?

because Globalists hate America and want it destroyed financially, and for what it stands for in the world.

and by Globalists, I mean Democrats, living here and elsewhere, like George Soros.
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:50 PM (sy5kK)




Do not want to start with those paying and saving but we have to get rid of ss somehow.

Would much rather start with everyone you suggested first but that is not enough.

I am about your age and have never used ss in my retirement strategy.

Posted by: not so at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (HALdu)

434 I'm hungry.

Posted by: Lt. Col. Bearclaw at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (vtcmf)

435 434 I'm hungry.
Posted by: Lt. Col. Bearclaw at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (vtcmf)

==========

Do like Pizza the Hutt.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 26, 2019 02:54 PM (q80AH)

436 Heh on the turkey remarks. And I'll ask again, is Trump acting like someone who is afraid?

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:54 PM (Boy/L)

437 On a related issue, whenever I've argued in favor of naval spending, "Budget hawks" always retort with "Oh, so you support government spending when it's on something you like?"

"Providing for a Navy" is literally and explicitly mentioned in the Constitution as something Congress is supposed to spend money on. Find me any other part of federal spending that's true about.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (RIvx9)

i can slash the navy budget by probably 1/3 and STILL provide for the navy. cutting the waste in procurement wouldn't be difficult. and i'm sure there's LOTS of other departments that could have the same done.

not to mention actually closing ed, energy, etc...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:54 PM (8D42x)

438 okay, to be serious where SS really got wrecked was when it was opened up to Disability Benefits and other payouts that have nothing to with retirement.

Yeah while I know people who are benefiting from that, it is impossible to justify based on the concept and origin of the program.

Every dollar that the federal government takes away from you is one fewer dollar you have to help those in your family, community, and so on who are in need. Thus, you have to rely on the gubmint to take care of them instead.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:54 PM (KZzsI)

439 In the 90's there was actually a surplus in the Social Security fund. Clinton and Greenspan purchased shitloads of T-Bills with that surplus to prop up the DotCom Bubble and shovel cash into the General Fund so Clinton could gloat "Yay, Budget Surplus"

Posted by: kbdabear at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (qAR6u)

440 431 395 363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)

Sure feels that way sometimes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

Are you red-headed?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)

441
now, what was the topic again?
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:46 PM (sy5kK)

Boobs on The Chive.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at November 26, 2019 02:47 PM (bcbK

Money, boobs, guns.

Aka, America.

add BBQ's and a well-handling car, and you have the definition of a happy life.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (sy5kK)

442 OMG these people really have no clue that they brought this on themselves. Hello, how did you treat Sarah Sanders??
@jackholmes0
In a world without press briefings, the White House press corps has
mostly accepted a system of ritual abuse
, where they are forced to ask
the world's most powerful man questions over the roar of a helicopter
engine.

"If you get the chance to ask the President of the United States a
question, you take it." That was one correspondent's response when I
asked him why they all continue to put up with this, week after week.

"You haven't lived," said @BrianKarem "until you've been crammed with 175 people into a space meant for 25."

"It's faux access," said a senior White House reporter who has mostly stopped participating. "It's a joke."


*shakes head in amazement of how stupid and self-absorbed these people are.

Posted by: Nebraska at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (bDqIh)

443 I was going to put your Social Security account in a lock box.

Posted by: Al Gore at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (aKsyK)

444 I can retire comfortably any time I want, assuming I die within two weeks afterwards.


Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (+Z+gl)

i'll have to work until about 10.25 the day i die to affored it...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (8D42x)

445 As an employer, I pay 2/3 of the cost of our health insurance, and the employees act like I'm ripping them off. I would love to unload this all onto the government, and let everyone suffer equally. Enjoy your socialism, fuckfaces!

Posted by: Chris M at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (eAZVt)

446 426 Seriously. The summit of Pikes Peak is my favorite place on the planet. It is extra splendorful in the evening as the sun sets and one watches the shadow reach out and touch Nebraska.
Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 02:22 PM

Word. Best hike I ever did. I can see why it inspired America the Beautiful.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at November 26, 2019 02:52 PM (ejd/p)

agree. used to go the the springs at stay at the broadmoor just so i could do the peak.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (scc3j)

447 436 Heh on the turkey remarks. And I'll ask again, is Trump acting like someone who is afraid?
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:54 PM (Boy/L)

He actually seems to be enjoying himself. I think that's mostly what enrages his enemies: the harder they attack, the more amused he is. He's just surfing on their rage.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (RD7QR)

448 i can slash the navy budget by probably 1/3 and STILL provide for the navy. cutting the waste in procurement wouldn't be difficult. and i'm sure there's LOTS of other departments that could have the same done.

Sure. The military is actually valid federal spending, but its not immune to waste, fraud, duplication, and mishandling of funds.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 26, 2019 02:56 PM (KZzsI)

449 440 431 395 363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)

Sure feels that way sometimes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

Are you red-headed?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)


*can't stop laughing*

good one, Tom!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 02:56 PM (sy5kK)

450 414 very important, because they've already received supboeans to appear in Adam Schiff's basement on Thursday.

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1199411502681411585
Posted by: alexthechick -

I happened to see that live. A thing of beauty.
Posted by: Infidel at November 26, 2019 02:50 PM (O/X1S)
---------

LOL

Posted by: WisRich at November 26, 2019 02:56 PM (G0vdT)

451 I'm hungry.
Posted by: Lt. Col. Bearclaw
--

There seems to be a surfeit of salad on you cap and jacket. Chow down!

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 26, 2019 02:56 PM (CDGwz)

452 Just once I'd like to see a president come out with an axe and tell the turkey, "Die, sucker!" WHACK! Thanksgiving dinner.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at November 26, 2019 02:51 PM (+Z+gl)



Andrew Jackson would have done that.

Teddy would have set out bows and arrows and made hunting them down a fun game for the whole family.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 26, 2019 02:57 PM (mf5HN)

453 Wait a minute. I forgot to include the SS tax paid by my late wife's employer for her benefit.

They still screwed us!!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 26, 2019 02:57 PM (Y4EXg)

454 On a related issue, whenever I've argued in favor of naval spending, "Budget hawks" always retort with "Oh, so you support government spending when it's on something you like?"

Military spending that delivers actual hardware and/or warfighting capability is fine. Throwing money at the Navy right now is just arson with taxpayer money.

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 26, 2019 02:57 PM (Boy/L)

455 '...your cap...'

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at November 26, 2019 02:57 PM (CDGwz)

456 i can slash the navy budget by probably 1/3 and STILL provide for the navy. cutting the waste in procurement wouldn't be difficult. and i'm sure there's LOTS of other departments that could have the same done.

not to mention actually closing ed, energy, etc...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 02:54 PM (8D42x)

--
Don't get me wrong, I'm certainly not disputing this point. My quarrel is with those who want to reduce naval capabilities/number of ships in the name of fiscal responsibility.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 26, 2019 02:57 PM (RIvx9)

457 Amidst blaming Trump for the Congressional Continuous Resolution To Spend Twice As Many Tax Dollars As We Take In for the last 10 (or is it 11) years.

CCRTSTAMTDAWTI

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (aJkzG)

458 Populists now control the republican party and have run conservative libertarians like koch brother ( the other is burning in hell ) out of power. Trump stopped wealthy party donor class from controlling who gets nominated by buying nomination to keep populists in the party from power. By by deficit hawks don't let the door hit you on the way out. The libertarian is that way.

Posted by: raimondo at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (iphRA)

459 I'd like to know, because odd as it sounds, Throckmorton is a big name in Texas. Town and County of Throckmorton, also a major road through downtown Fort Worth.

Dave in Texas?

Posted by: Bosk at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (9m9TT)

460 431
395 363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.

Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)



Sure feels that way sometimes.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

I am OK with that. It is the ultimate in freedom.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (1CjJc)

461 "We're the middle children of history. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives."

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (NWiLs)

462 I am sooo going to grow my hair like Trump.

LOLZ! "Schiff's basement"
Gold, Jerry, Gold!!!

Posted by: monkey at November 26, 2019 02:59 PM (CLteG)

463 Populists now control the republican party and have run conservative libertarians like koch brother ( the other is burning in hell ) out of power. Trump stopped wealthy party donor class from controlling who gets nominated by buying nomination to keep populists in the party from power. By by deficit hawks don't let the door hit you on the way out. The libertarian is that way.
Posted by: raimondo at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (iphRA)

*Sets Google Translator to "Incomprehensible"*
*Posts*

Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:59 PM (FJYfm)

464 what about the millions of illegals that are on the government dole the day they get here, and the vast majority are still on it 5 years later?

why not start here, instead of taking money from payees and savers?
..........

Makes sense, so forget it.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 03:00 PM (v0R5T)

465 440 431 395 363 Late Gen X: we are God's unwanted children.... and America's.
Posted by: squirrelly dan at November 26, 2019 02:37 PM (frty6)

Sure feels that way sometimes.
Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:53 PM (NWiLs)

Are you red-headed?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 02:55 PM (Kpl3J)

Heh. Might as well be. And a step-child.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 03:00 PM (NWiLs)

466 383 Honestly, Obama will be the only black President. Similar to JFK being the only Catholic one. More likely the next 'special' president will likely be Chinese.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 26, 2019 02:42 PM (yRAFu)

Probably Indian (Dot).
Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (CqE5x)

Nicky Haley in 2024?

perhaps.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 03:00 PM (sy5kK)

467 "We're the middle children of history. No purpose or place. We have no Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war. Our Great Depression is our lives."
Posted by: Insomniac
------

I can offer a purpose.

Posted by: Scoldilocks at November 26, 2019 03:00 PM (CDGwz)

468 why not start here, instead of taking money from payees and savers?

----

Because THOSE people tend to be Conservative.

Not Voting Constituency to build there, boyo....

Posted by: fixerupper at November 26, 2019 03:01 PM (8XRCm)

469 98
oh my Oregon. do we have a lurker who hacked into the cob side of pixyware and... delivered good content?



That's like someone who breaks into your house and leaves caviar in the fridge and swaps out the valurite for Dom Perignon.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo



Makes your beds, vacuums, dusts, folds laundry.



OMG! Ace's mom is blogging!



Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 01:38 PM (MjyI6)



I hope there's pie.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 01:42 PM (8D42x)


The Paolo make sure there is a nice cream pie ::wink wink:::

Posted by: Paolo at November 26, 2019 03:02 PM (I8FKK)

470 Posted by: raimondo at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (iphRA)


Looks like raimondo broke into his peyote stash again.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 03:03 PM (sy5kK)

471 463 Populists now control the republican party and have run conservative libertarians like koch brother ( the other is burning in hell ) out of power. Trump stopped wealthy party donor class from controlling who gets nominated by buying nomination to keep populists in the party from power. By by deficit hawks don't let the door hit you on the way out. The libertarian is that way.
Posted by: raimondo at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (iphRA)

*Sets Google Translator to "Incomprehensible"*
*Posts*
Posted by: Ted K. at November 26, 2019 02:59 PM (FJYfm)

It was a tear-jerker in the original Ugaritic.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 26, 2019 03:03 PM (RD7QR)

472 470 Posted by: raimondo at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (iphRA)


Looks like raimondo broke into his peyote stash again.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 03:03 PM (sy5kK)

The Koch brothers came out of my head! OUT OF MY HEAD!

Posted by: rainmando at November 26, 2019 03:04 PM (RD7QR)

473 461
"We're the middle children of history. No purpose or place. We have no
Great War. No Great Depression. Our Great War's a spiritual war. Our
Great Depression is our lives."

Posted by: Insomniac at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (NWiLs)

Excellent flick.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 26, 2019 03:04 PM (1CjJc)

474 247 Bloomberg "news" - Breaking News!!! House Judiciary plans to start public impeachment inquiry hearings on December 4. Because the first round went so well for them
Posted by: TheQuietMan at November 26, 2019 02:06 PM (mpeBU)

This is Nadler's committee, right?

It's obvious they're hoping for a Watergate replay. Remember in that , things only became known because they held endless hearings and it was drip, drip, drip with a bombshell every now and then to keep it going.

Posted by: JoeF. at November 26, 2019 02:08 PM (CqE5x)

Repubs destroyed their story in the Schiff act.

The Nadler act, if it actually allows Due Process, will have the Republicans making even bigger fools out of the Globalists.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 03:05 PM (sy5kK)

475 Looks like raimondo broke into his peyote stash again.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 26, 2019 03:03 PM (sy5kK)
..........

or he got a hold of some of Schiff's bad acid.

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 03:06 PM (v0R5T)

476 The Nadler act, if it actually allows Due Process,
---------
If.

Posted by: Spartans at November 26, 2019 03:07 PM (3Z6pZ)

477 been having to work so I'm just now reading this august post...it appears I'm not crazy after all

NOW GET RID OF ETHANOL!!!11!!!

they are using the same tactic on that one because "What about the farmers!"

Posted by: DanMan at November 26, 2019 03:08 PM (XTiHL)

478 The Nadler act, if it actually allows Due Process,


Since when did the Demunists actually have due process?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 26, 2019 03:08 PM (ujg0T)

479 Can Nadler actually sit through a long hearing without his lap band cutting off circulation?

Posted by: wth at November 26, 2019 03:08 PM (v0R5T)

480 Over the years I've talked to enough people that were heavily medicated (and/or stoned) so that after running it back through my insanity discrimination filter, Rainmondo's post actually makes a warped kind of sense.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 26, 2019 03:08 PM (Kpl3J)

481 my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.

paid in my whole life.

mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.

now, what was the topic again?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg



It's a hell of a thing; killin' a man. You take away everything he ever had and ever would have.

Yeah. Line. In. Sand.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 26, 2019 03:09 PM (Vddbf)

482 477 been having to work so I'm just now reading this august post...it appears I'm not crazy after all

NOW GET RID OF ETHANOL!!!11!!!

they are using the same tactic on that one because "What about the farmers!"
Posted by: DanMan at November 26, 2019 03:08 PM (XTiHL)



Unfortunately, that may be one of the few entitlement recipient classes that actually DOES vote Republican?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 26, 2019 03:09 PM (ujg0T)

483 476
The Nadler act, if it actually allows Due Process,

---------

If.

Posted by: Spartans at November 26, 2019 03:07 PM (3Z6pZ)
So, unnatural acts are legal in Congress?

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 26, 2019 03:12 PM (aJkzG)

484 The USDA budget is 20% agriculture and 80% graft and welfare.

Posted by: DanMan at November 26, 2019 03:13 PM (XTiHL)

485 my full SS kicks in a little under 2 years.

paid in my whole life.

mess with it, you and many of your family are going to die a painful death.

now, what was the topic again?

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg



The best they are ever going to do with SS and Medicare is jack up the ages at which current youngsters can collect it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at November 26, 2019 03:14 PM (ujg0T)

486 nood

Posted by: m at November 26, 2019 03:15 PM (KXX3K)

487 I'd like to know, because odd as it sounds, Throckmorton is a big name in Texas. Town and County of Throckmorton, also a major road through downtown Fort Worth.

Dave in Texas?

Posted by: Bosk at November 26, 2019 02:58 PM (9m9TT)

Dave's not here man.

iono if that's true or not, so *waves* hi dave.

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 26, 2019 03:18 PM (8D42x)

488 I see our political priorities very simply: unless the inundation of the American electorate by millions from the socialist/peasant Third World is significantly slowed we are F'd nine ways to Sunday and forever.

And that's being optimistic that we aren't already there.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 26, 2019 03:20 PM (koNhm)

489 On a related issue, whenever I've argued in favor of naval spending,
"Budget hawks" always retort with "Oh, so you support government
spending when it's on something you like?"



"Providing for a Navy" is literally and explicitly mentioned in the
Constitution as something Congress is supposed to spend money on. Find
me any other part of federal spending that's true about.



Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 26, 2019 02:43 PM (RIvx9)



Roads are in the Constitution as "postal roads". It's why the first trains and planes carried mail so that the Feds could use Fed money to build the rail lines and airports. Same with sea ports.



I do love how the brave GOPer's in office always talk about holding the line on spending and getting rid of Obamacare, and then you have one cocksucker that breaks ranks to give the Dems the necessary votes, and then every other GOP sucker of cock decides they need to "be on the right side of history" and vote for the program.


Funny, those cocksuckers always seem to lose their re-election right after that. See the Virginia Senate and Medicaid expansion.

Posted by: Ashley Judd's Puffy Scamper at November 26, 2019 03:29 PM (I8FKK)

490 This tracks with a great article from American Spectator recently:

https://spectator.org/why-republicans-wont-abandon-donald-trump/

The quick summary is this: you first. Budget/deficit is a problem? Got it. You cut first, THEN we will be right there with you. We'll be over here waiting...

Posted by: BetaPhi at November 26, 2019 03:38 PM (hGNrS)

491 Buck Throckmorton is a fake name!

Posted by: Larsen E. Whipsnade at November 26, 2019 03:40 PM (bML9A)

492 Gradually, then suddenly.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 26, 2019 03:42 PM (yQpMk)

493 I'm a budget hawk and I'm thoroughly sick of the do-nothings in Washington. They should use some of that horse-lubricant next time they screw me.

Posted by: Chris W at November 26, 2019 03:44 PM (HPcI7)

494 I hate the GOPE more than the Rats, Because they are Rats.

Posted by: Constantine XI at November 26, 2019 03:53 PM (yiAMj)

495 I'm sorry, but if you think moving the Israeli embassy to Jerusalem is a conservative value then you are the GOPE. It's a poke in the eye to Muslims, so it kind of tickles me, but it has no real value other than that. The Israeli embassy means nothing to America first.

Posted by: DFCtomm at November 26, 2019 05:03 PM (50gG9)

496 BUCK FUTTER!!

Posted by: Sean Connery at November 26, 2019 05:29 PM (DTX3h)

497 Jerusalem embassy:
Well, symbolically it has importance, to actually perform on a promise made over a decade ago but never acted upon.

Why we elected PDT; actions, not talk.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 26, 2019 06:56 PM (JwHjN)

498 Ace & Cobs - Thanks for posting this. I loved the comments, and I'll be disappointed if I don' t start seeing regular comments on Ace's posts from Slab Manchest and Smash Lampjaw.

Posted by: Buck Throckmorton at November 26, 2019 08:02 PM (d9Cw3)

499 Well said, Buck.
Well said.

Posted by: -Shawn- at November 26, 2019 09:14 PM (mqxqb)

500 Why we elected PDT; actions, not talk.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez, we are being gaslighted 24/365 at November 26, 2019 06:56 PM (JwHjN)

So how is that advancing the goals of America first?

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When Clinton Was President, Torture Was Cool
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The Story the Rightwing Media Refuses to Report!
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