The President, Not Stuffed Shirt Paper-Pushers in the Federal Bureaucracy, Is Invested With the Foreign Policy Power by the Constitution

Sharyl Atkinsson pointing out something so obvious only a Genius Bureaucrat or Elite Journalist could fail to understand and remember it.

The Huffington Post wrote, "State Department officials say Rudy Giuliani’s foreign policy backchannel 'undercut' U.S. policy on Ukraine."
And Ambassador Taylor testified, "The official foreign policy of the United States was undercut by the irregular efforts led by Rudy Giuliani."
There must be some confusion.
Under the U.S. Constitution, it is the president of the United States who determines foreign policy. How can President Trump be "at odds with foreign policy" when he's the one who determines it?
President Trump may well have been altering foreign policy on Ukraine. It should be of no surprise that he wasn't operating "business as usual," since he ran on that platform and has executed it from day one. It's clear that Kent and Taylor didn't like or agree with Trump’s ideas, and believe they know what’s best. Trump rankled, contradicted and “embarrassed” them by operating outside the "regular" chain.
But they seem to miss the fact that their desires are subordinate to the president's. "Official foreign policy," as they called it, is not an independent unmovable-force object that exists outside the president’s authority; it is what the president determines it to be. The diplomats must execute the president's wishes or resign from their posts if they feel they cannot bring themselves to do so.

Partisan Obamabot and self-important softdick Vindman is another of the Best and Brightest managerial class who doesn't understand very simple things.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:27 PM

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1 Yo!

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 14, 2019 01:27 PM (qC1Sy)

2 Sharyl has balls.

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:27 PM (4esN9)

3 Deep state trumps Trump!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 14, 2019 01:27 PM (so+oy)

4 Not just playing the Twitter pronoun game. We should also use the opposite-sex bathrooms/locker rooms in whatever businesses/gov't buildings have announced that it is OK to do so.

Posted by: vrf at November 14, 2019 01:27 PM (L8qt4)

5 Cool.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 14, 2019 01:28 PM (qC1Sy)

6 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:28 PM (q80AH)

7 these fucking guys. I'll tell ya...

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 14, 2019 01:28 PM (NVYyb)

8 "Official foreign policy," as they called it, is not an independent unmovable-force object that exists outside the president's authority;

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"It's not?!?!!"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:28 PM (q80AH)

9 Can we start executing the State Department?
I like that policy.

Posted by: Winston a dreg of society at November 14, 2019 01:29 PM (Tt761)

10 And by "official foreign policy" they mean don't encourage investigation for Burisma because Biden.

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 14, 2019 01:29 PM (nRWPy)

11 Shut up, bigot!!!

Posted by: Dr. T at November 14, 2019 01:29 PM (MKLBv)

12 First: Check
Nood called: Check
Read the Content:

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 14, 2019 01:29 PM (qC1Sy)

13 >>The diplomats must execute the president's wishes or resign from their posts if they feel they cannot bring themselves to do so.

One other choice : Fire Them.

They don't get to ignore the CoC.

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (4esN9)

14 10 And by "official foreign policy" they mean don't encourage investigation for Burisma because Biden.
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 14, 2019 01:29 PM (nRWPy)

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The mission statement of the State Department, as interpreted through precedent by State Department staff.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (q80AH)

15 The President, Not Stuffed Shirt Paper-Pushers in the Federal Bureaucracy, Is Invested With the Foreign Policy Power by the Constitution

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Dude, it's a living document and that means it don't mean shit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (+y/Ru)

16 Echoes of "Trump disclosed classified information!!"

Repeated endlessly by people who didn't understand Trump can unilaterally de-classify information.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (9t0Zz)

17 Now why the Democrats would think it a good idea to emphasize the butthurt of career bureaucrats over the fact the bureaucrats were not listened to is still lost to me.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (hLRSq)

18 Both the guys that testified yesterday were fuckin' nerds. Especially Kent. Can't someone in the hearings give him a swirlie?

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (oZ6kz)

19 Eh, fuck common sense constitutional interpretations.

Posted by: SteveOReno, I proudly self-identify as a Moron at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (2sCft)

20 The United States has no permanent friends or enemies, just a permanent bureaucracy dictating policy to us and our elected officials.

Posted by: Ersatz at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (zuVZw)

21
Soooooooo....

John Effin Kerry
Dennis Rodman
Jimmah Karter
and The Reverend Jessie Jackson

...... are all backchannel felons.

RIGHT???

Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (8XRCm)

22 17 Now why the Democrats would think it a good idea to emphasize the butthurt of career bureaucrats over the fact the bureaucrats were not listened to is still lost to me.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:30 PM (hLRSq)

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Because they are desperate, not thinking clearly, and lashing out in an effort to distract from negative news stories that reflect poorly on them.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (q80AH)

23 It's a shame that article is on The Hill - as bad a comment section as DU or DK. Totally poisonous, that's why Solomon left, I think.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (Kpl3J)

24 >> Now why the Democrats would think it a good idea to emphasize the butthurt of career bureaucrats over the fact the bureaucrats were not listened to is still lost to me.

Well, the media see themselves as Firefighters.

... and these guys are their Freedom Fighters.

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (4esN9)

25 Official foreign policy = the wink wink nod nod agreement Congress-dwellers all have with each other not to mess with each other's grift.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (9t0Zz)

26 I hate that Taylor shit with the flame of a thousand suns.

Just listening to him...he sounds like a Ukrainian agent.

He does not belong in our government.

Posted by: JEM at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (8erNz)

27 17. In their bubble, the precious bureaucrats are placed on a high pedestal.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (wGbBR)

28 Use of trusted advisors as informal emissaries to go around official channels?

Wait til they find out about FDR, they'll be crushed.

Posted by: JPS at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (GyHlz)

29 These people are as nutty as Bernie Sanders and his rape fantasies.

Posted by: Fritz at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (wo3c/)

30 As much of a scum bag as Slick Willie was, he had the right idea when he took office - he fired everybody!

Now, that was done mainly to stop the investigations into his criminal wrongdoing in Whitewater and other misdeeds, but it sure stopped the GOP cold.

After 12 years of Republican presidents, there were probably plenty of holdovers who were not on Team Slick Willie. And he cut them off at the knees.

Posted by: Boots at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (oGBso)

31 21
Soooooooo....

John Effin Kerry
Dennis Rodman
Jimmah Karter
and The Reverend Jessie Jackson

...... are all backchannel felons.

RIGHT???
Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (8XRCm)

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That would be a fun question for a Republican to ask at the next session.

"John Kerry, under only his own authority, has been meeting with Iranian officials, trying to influence how they interact with the United States government. In your opinion, is this better or worse than what Rudy did at the behest of the current president of the United States?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (q80AH)

32 Well, the media see themselves as Firefighters

More like Firemen of the Fahrenheit 451 type.

Posted by: Insomniac at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (NWiLs)

33 The diplomats must execute the president's wishes or resign from their posts if they feel they cannot bring themselves to do so.

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You misspelled forced to commit seppuku or be beheaded, Sharyl -- but I'll settle for resignation.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (CBwKQ)

34 "The President, Not Stuffed Shirt Paper-Pushers in the Federal Bureaucracy, Is Invested With the Foreign Policy Power..."

Correction. Only a Democrat president.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (H8QX8)

35 How about we nuke Foggy Bottom?

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (4esN9)

36 Could it possibly be that Trump worked outside the "regular chain" because every link in that chain is a praetorian who has, in his own mind at least, arrogated to himself both gnostic truth and the true, pure power of the executive?

Nah, couldn't be anything like that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (e/H31)

37 2 Sharyl has balls.
Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:27 PM (4esN9)

_________________________

Sharyl is going to be very financially well off in the not too distant future. Her name will pop up relative to FBI abuses of the NSA meta-data. She's going to have one hell of a civil liberties suit at some point.

Posted by: Orson at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (49NZX)

38 Things that tell me the Democrats are gone bye-bye:

(1) Focusing attention on an area where Democrats have been getting lots of bribes.
(2) Emphasizing that bureaucrats are upset they aren't being listened to (and who does not love a bureaucrat?)
(3) Putting a pop-eyed pencil-necked geek in charge of everything.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (hLRSq)

39 37 2 Sharyl has balls.
Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:27 PM (4esN9)

_________________________

Sharyl is going to be very financially well off in the not too distant future. Her name will pop up relative to FBI abuses of the NSA meta-data. She's going to have one hell of a civil liberties suit at some point.
Posted by: Orson at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (49NZX)

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#twoweeks

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (q80AH)

40 Literal Bureaucratic Decimation(TM), now more than ever!*

*Free clubs for the first nine customers!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (RD7QR)

41 I was talking to a buddy today who was mentioning how bad this whole thing could go for the dems if/when it goes to the Senate. He was talking about the subpoenas and testimony that the Senate would put in front of the camera. It made me wonder if there is really is a desire to get it that far. What if all this is designed to never leave the house; especially since I saw 3 dem critters saying Sondland changed his story between closed door examination and the day 1 circus. Maybe Schiff has enough red-state Democrats willing to vote no so that all this really does is lends "credibility" to the lies and narrative so that they can smear Donnie Two Scoops all the way to November with more lies and soundbites from the hearings...
If this has already been talked about, ignore me.... I've been drinking

Posted by: Meathead with a mullet 30 years ago (aka doc-creep) at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (brdhO)

42 38 Things that tell me the Democrats are gone bye-bye:

(1) Focusing attention on an area where Democrats have been getting lots of bribes.
(2) Emphasizing that bureaucrats are upset they aren't being listened to (and who does not love a bureaucrat?)
(3) Putting a pop-eyed pencil-necked geek in charge of everything.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (hLRSq)

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But have you seen the national polls?

Warren is going to beat Trump by 15 points!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (q80AH)

43 Top 40?

Posted by: CliffClavin at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (dyCMp)

44 Has anyone asked WHAT policy they had problems with? Got that they had feelz, but what exactly about? Obama wasn't giving them any lethal aid. Are these dorks colluding with Russia???

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (nRWPy)

45 >>Sharyl is going to be very financially well off in the not too distant future.

Is she single?

Is she attractive enough to try and get in early?

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (4esN9)

46 In other words : LOL get fucked

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (KNsKs)

47 "President Trump is at odds with American foreign policy."

Translation: President Trump is at odds with the Military-Industrial Complex's foreign policy.

Posted by: Augustine at November 14, 2019 01:35 PM (BDZWU)

48 41 If this has already been talked about, ignore me.... I've been drinking
Posted by: Meathead with a mullet 30 years ago (aka doc-creep) at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (brdhO)

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Some of us have thought this would never get to the Senate for a while.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:35 PM (q80AH)

49 Sharyl is so 18th century

Posted by: REDACTED at November 14, 2019 01:35 PM (rpxSz)

50 23 It's a shame that article is on The Hill - as bad a comment section as DU or DK. Totally poisonous, that's why Solomon left, I think.

Inside the Beltway types or more likely "wanna be" inside the Beltway types.

Posted by: Wendy at November 14, 2019 01:35 PM (bpemY)

51 I'll have to check with Hillary before I know for certain but I'm pretty sure that Sharyl Atkinsson is a Russian asset.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:35 PM (+y/Ru)

52 Soooooooo....

John Effin Kerry
Dennis Rodman
Jimmah Karter
and The Reverend Jessie Jackson

...... are all backchannel felons.

RIGHT???
Posted by: fixerupper
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Yes

Posted by: Guzalot at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (prSvo)

53 Because they are desperate, not thinking clearly, and lashing out in an effort to distract from negative news stories that reflect poorly on them.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:31 PM (q80AH)

After seeing recaps of yesterday's circus, I realize that they haven't planned out any of this at all. They're just jumping into it and hoping that it all works out. I've seen a lot of people try that over the years - it pretty much always ends the same way, no matter what it is they're trying to do.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (Kpl3J)

54 "John Kerry, under only his own authority, has been meeting with Iranian officials, trying to influence how they interact with the United States government. In your opinion, is this better or worse than what Rudy did at the behest of the current president of the United States?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

If we were a serious nation, John Fucking Kerry would be arrested for treason.

Yes. Iran IS an enemy.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (qBbz7)

55 Why are the media so stupid? Or could it be they're lying? Or both?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (Uu+Jp)

56 First: Check
Nood called: Check
Read the Content:

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 14, 2019 01:29 PM (qC1Sy)

why start now?

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (8D42x)

57 Luckily, there's a job fair in the lobby.

Posted by: Fritz at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (wo3c/)

58 Every meaningful President used handpicked men to implement foreign policy. None of them trusted the Stat Department. This is not new.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (yRAFu)

59 I'm just a schlub, but this seems imminently obvious to even me.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (m45I2)

60 "You're not the boss of me!!"

Posted by: Kent and Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (l3+k2)

61 53 After seeing recaps of yesterday's circus, I realize that they haven't planned out any of this at all. They're just jumping into it and hoping that it all works out. I've seen a lot of people try that over the years - it pretty much always ends the same way, no matter what it is they're trying to do.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (Kpl3J)

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Well, Trump keeps getting lucky, so they might as well try it themselves.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (q80AH)

62 Bring back the Spoils System. The regular purging of the bureaucracy as one party or the other prevents bureaucratic lifers from empire building by preventing bureaucratic lifers from existing.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (J+mig)

63 and yeah, time to fire the entire group.

preferably out of a cannon...

Posted by: SturmToddler at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (8D42x)

64 Well, the media see themselves as Firefighters

Don't forget that a large number of firefighters end up as convicted arsonists.

Posted by: Bert G at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (Y+/QX)

65 "But in the past, we've always handled this!!! Damn you how are we going to work out lucrative side deals and kickbacks for our friends if the president does it all???"
--The Deep State

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

66 Trump needs to post some job descriptions.

Posted by: BignJames at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (X/Pw5)

67 66 Trump needs to post some job descriptions.
Posted by: BignJames at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (X/Pw5)

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"Hookers for peeing on Obama's bed..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (q80AH)

68 What confuses me is how Ambassador Taylor still has a job, when he clearly is working against the president's will and policies. He cannot do his very basic job of representing the president in foreign nations.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (KZzsI)

69 62. That is the only real solution. Shrink the govt yes, but the spols system was way better than the permanent, pension seeking entrenched commies we have now.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 14, 2019 01:38 PM (wGbBR)

70 Some of us have thought this would never get to the Senate for a while.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:35 PM (q80AH)

I was sure it would until yesterday - I realize I had underestimated Schiff's ability to turn this all into a ridiculous joke, in public.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:38 PM (Kpl3J)

71
Heard from friend who...
Heard from a frie-e-e-end who-o-o-o....
Heard it from another that Trumps been messing around.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 01:38 PM (8XRCm)

72 Eeyore and His Boo-Hoo Orchestra will now play "The Lament of the Career Bureaucrat."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:38 PM (hLRSq)

73 Every meaningful President used handpicked men to implement foreign policy. None of them trusted the Stat Department. This is not new.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (yRAFu)
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I have always laughed at the "hand-picked" thing. No shit. Cabinet secretaries, judges, ambassadors, etc. are selected by the president and outside of the courts they serve at his pleasure.

Of course they're freaking "hand-picked." Would they rather he throw a dart at a random list of names to fill positions?

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2019 01:38 PM (e/H31)

74 Is she single?

Is she attractive enough to try and get in early?
Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:34 PM (4esN9)
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No.

Yes.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (qC1Sy)

75 What did Rudy do that they didn't like?

What was it?

He looked into corruption. What else? Anything?

Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (nRWPy)

76 >>What confuses me is how Ambassador Taylor still has a job

Send him to Somalia with a shovel and a hammer. Tell him to call us when he has an embassy built.

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (4esN9)

77 What exactly is the problem with letting government agency officials determine policy?

Posted by: Denver EPA Workers Who Drop Deuces In Hallways at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (9vQJW)

78 Sheryl is a One.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (ufFY8)

79 What confuses me is how Ambassador Taylor still has a job, when he clearly is working against the president's will and policies. He cannot do his very basic job of representing the president in foreign nations.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:37 PM (KZzsI)
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I hope his is one of many, many names on the "fire these bastards the moment this flames out" list.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (e/H31)

80 Odds of finding Schiff gunned down in front of his apartment building?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (yRAFu)

81 76 >>What confuses me is how Ambassador Taylor still has a job

Send him to Somalia with a shovel and a hammer. Tell him to call us when he has an embassy built.
Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (4esN9)

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Send him to Libya to finish Chris Stevens' job of running guns to ISIS.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:40 PM (q80AH)

82 63 and yeah, time to fire the entire group.

preferably out of a cannon...
Posted by: SturmToddler at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (8D42x)
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Russians did that with the ashes of a Polish king.

Old ways are the best ways.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 14, 2019 01:40 PM (qC1Sy)

83 The President, Not Stuffed Shirt Paper-Pushers in the Federal Bureaucracy, Is Invested With the Foreign Policy Power by the Constitution

Attention Bureaucrats in the Federal Bureaucracy-

Your job is to facilitate the President's Policies.

Not to interfere with them.

If you don't wish to facilitate his policies, then the only honorable (and probably legal) thing to do is to quit.

So.....quit. Ande learn to code.

"Yes, Minister" and "Yes, Prime Minister" were two exaggerated Limey Comedies.

Not instruction manuals for the bureaucratic life.

Not that it requires any great change to prevent these issues.

Step 1: Eliminate all unions for Federal Bureaucrats. You can't serve two masters.

Step 2: Resurrect the Spoils System.

We need responsive bureaucrats. Not unelected, fat, dumb, and lazy bastards frustrating the will of the people willy-nilly.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 14, 2019 01:40 PM (kauXV)

84 Doesn't matter, there's money to be made and an election to win.

Posted by: Orange Man Bad Inc at November 14, 2019 01:40 PM (soOZc)

85 And Sharyl is One also.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (ufFY8)

86
"But in the past, we've always handled this!!! Damn you how are we going to work out lucrative side deals and kickbacks for our friends if the president does it all???"

-----

THats even harder now that Epstein is dead and he cant launder your ill gotten gains now.

What. You think ...we think... Epstein made billions timing the market???

Nobody is that good.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (8XRCm)

87 How different would the world be if most of our "journalist" did their jobs like Ms Atkinson?

Posted by: Big V at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (B06Zw)

88 Even most of the media shit heads running around with their hair on fire understand that the President is in charge of Foreign Policy

But they are counting on their audience not knowing,

Posted by: JoeF. at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (CqE5x)

89 We should also use the opposite-sex bathrooms/locker rooms in whatever businesses/gov't buildings have announced that it is OK to do so.

If enough guys wave their dicks at the wine moms, those policies will change very quickly.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (ZGrMX)

90 87 How different would the world be if most of our "journalist" did their jobs like Ms Atkinson?
Posted by: Big V at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (B06Zw)

We would need A LOT more pudding cups.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (ayFCE)

91 Some of the mutineers in India that massacred civilians got tied to the front of a cannon that was then fired.....

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2019 01:41 PM (KNsKs)

92 83 >>>

Quit?

But what about MUH PENSION?

Posted by: Allie at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (sm6Pk)

93 How does Kelly Ann stayed married to her dwarf husband with goofy eyes?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (yRAFu)

94 36
Could it possibly be that Trump worked outside the "regular chain"
because every link in that chain is a praetorian who has, in his own
mind at least, arrogated to himself both gnostic truth and the true,
pure power of the executive?

Nah, couldn't be anything like that.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (e/H31)

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I've seen speculation that Eric Ciaramella, who didn't kill Epstein BTW, leaked the transcripts of those those first two phone calls Trump had with foreign heads of state. Trump would have been an irresponsible idiot not to subvert these traitors at every turn.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (CBwKQ)

95 93 How does Kelly Ann stayed married to her dwarf husband with goofy eyes?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (yRAFu)

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You can't explain love.

Or their sex dungeon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:43 PM (q80AH)

96 "Softdick?"

Not optimal.

Posted by: Adam Schifft at November 14, 2019 01:43 PM (sWM8x)

97 >>How does Kelly Ann stayed married to her dwarf husband with goofy eyes?

The Shame is part of the Kink.

Posted by: garrett at November 14, 2019 01:43 PM (4esN9)

98 The best part was the dems "witnesses" didn't actually witness anything.

They we're just butthurt and thought regular Americans would give a shit.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 14, 2019 01:43 PM (xfb67)

99 Attention Bureaucrats in the Federal Bureaucracy-

Your job is to facilitate the President's Policies.
Not to interfere with them.
...
Posted by: naturalfake at November 14, 2019 01:40 PM (kauXV)
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Don't be so bourgeois and old-fashioned. Our job is to keep the wheels of state turning, and the machine itself pointed int he direction of progress. The president's policies barely factor into it unless our received wisdom and, dare we say it, divine knowledge lead us to know that we need to fight him.

We serve at the pleasure of the state and with the grace of God, and our job is *not* to support the president's policy if we think otherwise.

Posted by: Federal Bureaucrats at November 14, 2019 01:43 PM (e/H31)

100 Brit Hume points out that Vindman's statement is a "fallacy". This argument will not work, because the idiots he's arguing with don't know or care what that even means.

Posted by: Chris M at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (eAZVt)

101 75 What did Rudy do that they didn't like?
What was it?
He looked into corruption. What else? Anything?
Posted by: dagny, first of her name at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (nRWPy)

What REALLY pissed them off is that because Rudy is working for Trump privately, as his lawyer, and NOT as a government official, none of the regulations and policies that dems love to use to threaten Govm't employees with apply to him, and any conversations between himself and Trump are shielded from disclosure under Attorney-Client privilege.

Oh but that's just an accident, Trump didn't even realize that was going to be the case when he hired Rudy.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (Kpl3J)

102 93 How does Kelly Ann stayed married to her dwarf husband with goofy eyes?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (yRAFu)

She's a practicing Catholic, and "He's an idiot" isn't grounds for annulment in the eyes of the Church.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (KUaJL)

103 Just listening to him...he sounds like a Ukrainian agent.

He does not belong in our government.
Posted by: JEM at November 14, 2019 01:32 PM (8erNz)

That happens to a lot of people at State. Which is why we need to take a flammenwerfer to that Department.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (GvT9q)

104 They must be Christian cows.

3 cows feared dead after being swept away by Hurricane Dorian are spotted on North Carolina Outer Banks

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)

105 OT - did Ginsburg show up to work today? Could not find any mention on Scotusblog.

Posted by: IC at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (a0IVu)

106
How does Kelly Ann stayed married to her dwarf husband with goofy eyes?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (yRAFu)

------

Stay married.... share 100% of the assets.

Get unmarried.... own 50% of the assets and pay attorney fees.

.... sometimes its just.... easier.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 01:45 PM (8XRCm)

107 Quit?

But what about MUH PENSION?

Posted by: Allie at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (sm6Pk)

It goes bye-bye.

Bu-u-u-u-u-ut, that's the price of MUH PRINCIPLES.

And MUH HILL TO DIE ON.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 14, 2019 01:45 PM (kauXV)

108 80 Odds of finding Schiff gunned down in front of his apartment building?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (yRAFu)

No no no, suicide by multiple gunshot wounds to the head.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 01:45 PM (RD7QR)

109 105 OT - did Ginsburg show up to work today? Could not find any mention on Scotusblog.
Posted by: IC at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (a0IVu)

Her unspeakably evil spirit attended in her stead.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (RD7QR)

110 Wait til they find out about FDR, they'll be crushed.

**********

Armand Hammer wasn't just a baking soda brand.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (m45I2)

111 >>What confuses me is how Ambassador Taylor still has a job

You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich. Took him away from the George Soros related NGO he was working for and put him in a position to help start this impeachment clown show.

That's a real head scratcher.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

112 Odds of finding Schiff gunned down in front of his apartment building?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:39 PM (yRAFu)

Hillary puts on a cop uniform and guns him down on the steps of the capitol.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (N4xQB)

113 Where are you going, Rep. Schiff?

"To the hill. I'm going to get Trump."

You're getting into a pissing contest with him?

"You bet!"

I just saw him, he drank 24 diet cokes and said "Bring it."

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (hLRSq)

114 111 >>What confuses me is how Ambassador Taylor still has a job

You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich. Took him away from the George Soros related NGO he was working for and put him in a position to help start this impeachment clown show.

That's a real head scratcher.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

=========

Trump is such a dummy dumdum head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (q80AH)

115 When the media isn't lying they are probably wrong. No, I'm sorry, they are invariably wrong.
Ana Navarro, for instance, has been wrong in every food choice she's made in her life.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (Uu+Jp)

116 Two "diplomats" talking about defense policies that are none of their business. Why isn't the DoD stepping forward to let the DoS know they should back off?

Posted by: None shall pass at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (JdcHc)

117 3 cows feared dead after being swept away by Hurricane Dorian are spotted on North Carolina Outer Banks
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)

I don't think we're in Cowsas anymore, Toto.

Posted by: A Puzzled Cow at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (/sgva)

118 Presidents come and go but the State Department is forever.

What this entire nervous breakdown since about 2 a.m. on 11.9.16 has been about is the notion that the Mandarin class does not have divine authority to rule.

They simply do not, and will not, accept that Trump is President.

No.

He isn't.

Lalalalala he's not legitimate so nothing he does is legitimate and how dare you question that!

It would be funnier if it weren't so dangerous.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (mf5HN)

119 OT: I've recently been reading up on a sex cult from the 80's called The Finders. What makes it interesting is that the CIA not only knew about it but was assisting in their sex trafficking of children for the purposes of gathering "intelligence."

I don't even know why some people still hold the intelligence community in such high esteem and get triggered when anyone questions what they say. It's just another reason why the ruling class must be destroyed. They are all evil.

Posted by: Augustine at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (BDZWU)

120 Just boggles the mind that a new President can go against the established foreign policy!

Here's a fun exercise from not too long ago. So the established foreign policy consensus in Iraq circa 2011 was that leaving would create a vacuum for terrorists to operate.

Obama went against the wishes of his Sec of Def and most military advisers (war mongers not dedicated, non-partisan bureaucrats) for purely political purposes.....

He needed to fulfill his big campaign promise of getting us out of Iraq. Hmmm what was coming up the following year?

Posted by: bif at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (aiyac)

121 >>Trump is such a dummy dumdum head.

Seems more like checkers than 9th dimensional chess but what do I know, I'm a cement head.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (ZLI7S)

122 54 "John Kerry, under only his own authority, has been meeting with Iranian officials, trying to influence how they interact with the United States government. In your opinion, is this better or worse than what Rudy did at the behest of the current president of the United States?"
Posted by: TheJamesMadison

If we were a serious nation, John Fucking Kerry would be arrested for treason.

Yes. Iran IS an enemy.
Posted by: rickb223

not to mention when his lost his first congressional run and used that rejection by the voters as a mandate to appoint himself as Emissary to North Vietnam.

Posted by: x at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (nFwvY)

123 There should be thousands of sedition and out right treason tribunals going on now.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (pw+jk)

124 They must be Christian cows.

3 cows feared dead after being swept away by Hurricane Dorian are spotted on North Carolina Outer Banks
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)

We know how to sim, you pantywaists....

Posted by: Cows at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (CqE5x)

125 You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich. Took him away from the George Soros related NGO he was working for and put him in a position to help start this impeachment clown show.

That's a real head scratcher.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)
+++++++++++++++
It's Trump, so there are two reasonable explanations:
1) It was a terrible staffing decision, of which he has had many.
2) He was a plant to force this issue and burn down the Dems.

I am going with door #1.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (e/H31)

126 3 cows feared dead after being swept away by Hurricane Dorian are spotted on North Carolina Outer Banks

*****

Meh. They'll be drowned by 2075.

Posted by: Muldoon at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (m45I2)

127
I don't think we're in Cowsas anymore, Toto.
Posted by: A Puzzled Cow at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (/sgva)

------

Well.... we're "Out of Africa" too.

~Toto

Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (8XRCm)

128 Another day of this, and they'll be toast.

Posted by: Les Kinetic at November 14, 2019 01:49 PM (WFct5)

129 If enough guys wave their dicks at the wine moms, those policies will change very quickly.
>>
wine moms may like it...

Posted by: FrodoB, relearning to code at November 14, 2019 01:49 PM (754s8)

130 The FBI once seized a child pornography distribution website and then proceeded to operate it from the FBI for several years to gather "intelligence."

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (xfb67)

131 3 cows feared dead after being swept away by Hurricane Dorian are spotted on North Carolina Outer Banks
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:44 PM (+y/Ru)

Fart methane.

Reap the Global Warming Whirlwind.

Posted by: naturalfake at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (kauXV)

132 >>It's Trump, so there are two reasonable explanations:
1) It was a terrible staffing decision, of which he has had many.
2) He was a plant to force this issue and burn down the Dems.

>>I am going with door #1.

If Trump keeps fucking up this way he may just win the biggest landslide since Reagan bent Mondale over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (ZLI7S)

133 I preferred it when Billy Carter utilized his back channel skillz with Libya.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (DY3v8)

134 Ana Navarro, for instance, has been wrong in every food choice she's made in her life.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (Uu+Jp)

===
Depends on her goals. If becoming a porcine figured bitch, it was very, very successful.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Totally Unserios at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (pw+jk)

135 Eat moar chiken.

Posted by: The Cows Of Chick-Fil-A at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (Z2naF)

136 Well, yes, definitionally, the President IS US Foreign Policy.

But, we live in a world where the Supreme Court can declare Constitutional Amendments unconstitutional.

Posted by: blaster at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (9VeU0)

137 "She's a practicing Catholic, and "He's an idiot" isn't grounds for annulment in the eyes of the Church.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously"

She can still divorce him for being an a-hole. The Church does not expect someone to stay with such an emotionally abusive spouse. Now, the re-marriage is where the Catholic thing becomes tricky.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (OD2ni)

138 Why isn't the DoD stepping forward to let the DoS know they should back off?
Posted by: None shall pass at November 14, 2019 01:47 PM (JdcHc)

State has controlled defense transfers until now, giving them power over DoD. Not now!

A little noticed thing happened this week. Trump took ITAR away from State and gave it to Commerce. Which just tickled my balls.

Posted by: AZ Hi Desert (Gringo fuertemente armado) at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (GvT9q)

139 If Trump keeps fucking up this way he may just win the biggest landslide since Reagan bent Mondale over.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (ZLI7S)

But the Democrats are super-geniuses! Just listen to them, they'll tell you that!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (hLRSq)

140 You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich.

I think Trump is not very good at hiring. Its obvious from the many, many bad hires he's done. At first you could kind of blame "bad advice from GOPe people he relied on for a transition team" but by now its just obvious that he's putting almost no thought or effort into most of his hires and relying on other people's input then rubber stamping it.

I mean, its not easy to find any non-leftist who won't try to destroy America and betray him in the state department, but Ukraine doesn't exactly justify our top ambassadorial staff. And for over a century the job of ambassador has typically gone to a political ally, that's how Joe freakin' Kennedy got to be the ambassador to the UK.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (KZzsI)

141 You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich. Took him away from the George Soros related NGO he was working for and put him in a position to help start this impeachment clown show.

That's a real head scratcher.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM (ZLI7S)

---

This circles back to what has been one of Trump's biggest obstacles all along. There just aren't that many people with the right experience and connections to get top federal jobs that are also on-board with America First.

As such, he's hired a lot of Bush retreads that had the right connections, and they keep the wheels of the Deep State turning.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (N4xQB)

142
Soooooooo....

John Effin Kerry
Dennis Rodman
Jimmah Karter
and The Reverend Jessie Jackson

...... are all backchannel felons.

RIGHT???
Posted by: fixerupper

Supposedly, Bill Clinton was privately ENRAGED at the Peanut Farmer when he went to North Korea in the 90s and presented that bullshit nuke agreement as if it was official US policy. But Clinton was pussy enough to just acquiesce rather than publicly disavow Carter.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at November 14, 2019 01:51 PM (kw0bd)

143 We know how to sim, you pantywaists....
Posted by: Cows at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (CqE5x)

The chickens didn't make it.
Bwahahaha!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (axyOa)

144 "Ana Navarro, for instance, has been wrong in every food choice she's made in her life.

Posted by: N.L. Urke"

You shut your whore mouth!!!

Posted by: Krispy Kreme at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (OD2ni)

145 If enough guys wave their dicks at the wine moms, those policies will change very quickly.

The Paolo is, how you say, more subtle in his approach.

Posted by: Paolo at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (Z2naF)

146 Partisan Obamabot and self-important softdick Vindman is another of the Best and Brightest managerial class who doesn't understand very simple things.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:27 PM

Oh, they understand just fine.
They're the resistance, remember?
And that's why there needs to be a bullet riddled wall somewhere soon.

Posted by: Zombie Epstein at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (z79tQ)

147 Vindman, and his attorney, need to be doing a deep dive into the UCMJ.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (axyOa)

148 It's funny, if you look at prog websites and MSM sites (same thing) you see that they are all absolutely certain that Trump will be impeached any day now, since the Evidence is just so darn good.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:53 PM (Kpl3J)

149 If Trump keeps fucking up this way he may just win the biggest landslide since Reagan bent Mondale over.
Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:50 PM (ZLI7S)
+++++++++++
I hope so. I think the reason that some of Trump's bad staffing choices haven't burned him too badly is twofold:
1) He fires them quickly when they don't work out
2) He isn't giving them ammunition to succeed in their real mission.

If Trump was who his enemies think he is (that is, a crook), these people would be able to contain him through much less than they have already done. But he doesn't seem to be a crook, so it just keeps failing and blowing up on them.

Posted by: Joe Mannix (Not a cop!) at November 14, 2019 01:53 PM (e/H31)

150 @144 ... quantity has a quality all its own.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 14, 2019 01:53 PM (DY3v8)

151 It's Trump, so there are two reasonable explanations:
1) It was a terrible staffing decision, of which he has had many.

I have no clue what is in Trump's brain.

I would never have hired most of his Cabinet, because "fire all my direct reports and all THEIR direct reports" would have been the first priority I'd have wanted during the interview.

But he's still the best we've had in two decades. I don't get this.

Posted by: JEM at November 14, 2019 01:53 PM (8erNz)

152 144 "Ana Navarro, for instance, has been wrong in every food choice she's made in her life.
Posted by: N.L. Urke"
You shut your whore mouth!!!
Posted by: Krispy Kreme at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (OD2ni)

That's Navarro's problem, she can't.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (Kpl3J)

153 I guess even Weissman thought the DEMS shat the bed yesterday.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (wGbBR)

154 146 Partisan Obamabot and self-important softdick Vindman is another of the Best and Brightest managerial class who doesn't understand very simple things.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:27 PM

Oh, they understand just fine.
They're the resistance, remember?
And that's why there needs to be a bullet riddled wall somewhere soon.
Posted by: Zombie Epstein at November 14, 2019 01:52 PM (z79tQ)

Let's see how well they can resist volleys of 5.56 mm.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (RD7QR)

155 And fuckin Pelosi said that Trump needs to realize he can't do what ever he wants.
When in reality with the exception of high crime an misdemeanors...he can do what ever the fuck he wants!

The swamp is really starting to reveal itself , now more than ever.

Let the scum swirl down the drain.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (u6xw0)

156 The FBI once seized a child pornography distribution website and then proceeded to operate it from the FBI for several years to gather "intelligence."

Yeah they do that a lot. They even create and run their own child porn websites in order to catch pedos. But at what point does it turn from a sting into just a corrupt criminal operation? Its one thing to sell pretend weed to someone or run a fake pawn shop but they had real websites with real child porn on them. That's just indefensible at a moral and legal level, I don't care who you bust.

Law enforcement has a real problem with "but this makes it easier to get the bad guys" justification of really awful, immoral, and unconstitutional behavior.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (KZzsI)

157 "Ana Navarro, for instance, has been wrong in every food choice she's made in her life.

Posted by: N.L. Urke"

She seems to be on the same diet as Rachael Ray, except Rachael was pretty cute at one point.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (OD2ni)

158 The President, Not Stuffed Shirt Paper-Pushers in the Federal Bureaucracy, Is Invested With the Foreign Policy Power by the Constitution

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 01:27 PM

OVERRULED!

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (htJYU)

159 148 It's funny, if you look at prog websites and MSM sites (same thing) you see that they are all absolutely certain that Trump will be impeached any day now, since the Evidence is just so darn good.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 01:53 PM (Kpl3J)

==========

Are they taking whip counts of red district Democratic Representatives to see how they will vote?

Are there interviews of Democrats who represent districts that went 10 points for Trump about the testimony delivered yesterday?

That would be good information to have if impeachment was definitely going to pass.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (q80AH)

160 Posted by: Augustine at November 14, 2019 01:48 PM (BDZWU)
The FBI also helped in squashing investigations started by local LE, when it related to the Finders. I read this in a US News and World Report from the early 1980s.
This rot runs very long and deep.

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (DJFLF)

161 They're just mad that Trump didn't give them an opportunity to sabotage his efforts.

Posted by: Emmie at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (i/wJA)

162 This is why the impeachment circus shitshow is rediculous. The president has wide authority and latitude as CIC and in foreign policy. The dims just can't get past the fact they lost the election.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (0OmEj)

163

These shitheads need something to talk about, some kind of fucking drama all the time.

This is it, it'll be something else soon.

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (ikxxu)

164 Softdick Vindman looks like an old Iron Curtain East Euro strongman in his Parade Outfit.
Marshall Tito Jr.

Posted by: Barney Fife at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (YTBIQ)

165 Hillary puts on a cop uniform and guns him down on the steps of the capitol.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM

Hillary Blarton: National Mall Cop?

Posted by: Bert G at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (Y+/QX)

166 162 This is why the impeachment circus shitshow is rediculous. The president has wide authority and latitude as CIC and in foreign policy. The dims just can't get past the fact they lost the election.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (0OmEj)

========

To be fair:

It seemed obvious the Johnson had the authority to fire Stanton and that the law that limited him was silly nonsense.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:56 PM (q80AH)

167 Let the scum swirl down the drain.
Posted by: dananjcon

Now, now...Judge Andrew Napolitano disagrees. What a disgrace that man is.

Posted by: Cheri at November 14, 2019 01:56 PM (oiNtH)

168
There is a great scene in The Last Emperor in which all the eunuchs were expelled from the Imperial Palace in Beijing and, as they exit, they are carrying their severed and dried testes with them.

This needs to be repeated at Foggy Bottom, now.

Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (pNxlR)

169 @156 ... not to mention it continues to exploit the children by keeping their images online. Seems like a contractual violation as they didn't sign over their rights.

Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (DY3v8)

170 We should also use the opposite-sex bathrooms/locker rooms in whatever businesses/gov't buildings have announced that it is OK to do so.

If enough guys wave their dicks at the wine moms, those policies will change very quickly.
Posted by: Ian S.

Remember to use the sinks as urinals.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (qBbz7)

171 168
There is a great scene in The Last Emperor in which all the eunuchs were expelled from the Imperial Palace in Beijing and, as they exit, they are carrying their severed and dried testes with them.

This needs to be repeated at Foggy Bottom, now.
Posted by: George Stephanopoulos is an Unbiased Urinalist! Now You Tell One! at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (pNxlR)

But first, the severing.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (RD7QR)

172 Law enforcement has a real problem with "but this
makes it easier to get the bad guys" justification of really awful,
immoral, and unconstitutional behavior.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (KZzsI)
It's not just LE that's enabling child pedo rings.
I read a front page article in the dead tree NYT about victims of child sex abuse being haunted for years due to the videos made of their abuse still being out there and available to other perverts and deviant criminals. Big Tech has been very slow about removing this ongoing torture chamber from the interwebs.

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (DJFLF)

173 "Ana Navarro, for instance, has been wrong in every food choice she's made in her life.

Posted by: N.L. Urke"

The owners of Old Country Buffet have nightmares about Ana Navarro and Jim Swift coming in together.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 01:58 PM (OD2ni)

174 The FBI once seized a child pornography distribution website and then proceeded to operate it from the FBI for several years to gather "intelligence."

Just look at all the evil shit the FBI turned a blind eye to in the Whitey Bulger case. Bulger got them some wins, so they protected him.

I wonder what sort of mental gymnastics they have to perform to keep telling themselves, "We can't roll up these thousands of pedos now, just think of all the thousands who will get away!" At some point, you have to go bust some heads and tip your hand.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (9t0Zz)

175
That would be a fun question for a Republican to ask at the next session.

"John Kerry, under only his own authority, has been meeting with
Iranian officials, trying to influence how they interact with the United
States government. In your opinion, is this better or worse than what
Rudy did at the behest of the current president of the United States?"

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:33 PM (q80AH)

ITS FUNNY CASE NANCY PELOSI TRAVELED TO SYRIA TO BROKER HER OWN FOREIGN POLICY DEAL RIGHT BEFORE TRUMP ENDED BARKY'S FIASCO

Posted by: Ben Rothlisbergergler at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (ymnmz)

176 >>They're just mad that Trump didn't give them an opportunity to sabotage his efforts.

By exposing them.

By this time tomorrow it will be blindingly obvious to even the most obtuse that in fact there are many in the bureaucracy who believe they really run the government, not the people we elect.

A month ago we were called whack job, conspiracy theorists for claiming there was a Deep State subverting the will of the people. Today the Deep State is telling everyone Your damn right we called the Code Red.

And we are talking about Ukraine.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (ZLI7S)

177 You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich. Took him away from the George Soros related NGO he was working for and put him in a position to help start this impeachment clown show.

--

Maybe somebody needs to do a workup chart on a Deep State Soros Ties Family and Friends Tree so he can refer to it and see who to automatically eject.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (JoUsr)

178 Remember to use the sinks as urinals.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (qBbz7)

And footbaths. And messily blow you nose into them, too.

Posted by: Achmed M'hammad Mohammed at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (/sgva)

179 Judd Legum@JuddLegum
Replying to @JuddLegum
3. One thing that has changed since Kavanaugh's confirmation is that the evidence against Kavanaugh has gotten STRONGER.

-
Imaginary evidence, is there anything it can't do?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (+y/Ru)

180 NYT article about child victims at the mercy of Big Tech:
>>
https://tinyurl.com/y39v4pxd

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (DJFLF)

181 Ironically, it's the State Department that has, time and again, subverted Trump's official US foreign policy.
So, once again, the Left is doing exactly what it accuses the right of doing.

Is it possible that that is what this whole kerfuffle is about? Trump knew the Deep State was subverting official policy and found ways around it - and the Deep State is now attempting to punish him for it.

Posted by: 29Victor at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (BJKQV)

182 They're gonna keep stomping their feet until someone turns those damn machines back on!

Posted by: zeera BMGG - Books Make Great Gifts! at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (X+a7J)

183 I understand the current Dem argument is that it was wrong for Trump to do what he did because it would potentially help his chances in the election.

The impeachment circus is all about helping Dems in the election. Why is it okay for them?

Posted by: Emmie at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (i/wJA)

184 When your own staff is sabotaging your directives, and you CAN'T fire them?

You have to go to outside channels to get things done.

Look at what Kelly and Tillerson have said they were doing. Putting in obstacles (via processes) to what the President wanted done.

The whole damn government from DOJ (under Sessions), to DHS, and even unto the Military (transexuals serving) have slowed the rate of change, sometimes stopping it cold.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting Madly at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (NgKpN)

185 All of this Biden, Kerry and other crime families financial corruption with Ukraine and the subsequent money laundering has been leaked which one would think would be a huge story and yet nothing. I really don't know what it would take to get through to the public about the true state of things.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (r+sAi)

186 178 Remember to use the sinks as urinals.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (qBbz7)

And footbaths. And messily blow you nose into them, too.
Posted by: Achmed M'hammad Mohammed at November 14, 2019 01:59 PM (/sgva)

You're not supposed to do that? Whoops.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (RD7QR)

187 Donkey chompers accidently lets the truth slip out

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/348397/

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (KNsKs)

188 That would be good information to have if impeachment was definitely going to pass.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (q80AH)

Oh, you and your weird fascination with real world facts.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (Kpl3J)

189 Hillary puts on a cop uniform and guns him down on the steps of the capitol.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 14, 2019 01:46 PM

Hillary Blarton: National Mall Cop?
Posted by: Bert G at November 14, 2019 01:55 PM (Y+/QX)

LOL! I was referencing Al Neri in The Godfather, but the image of Hildawg trying to escape the crime scene on a segway is just too funny

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 14, 2019 02:01 PM (N4xQB)

190 155
And fuckin Pelosi said that Trump needs to realize he can't do what ever he wants.
When in reality with the exception of high crime an misdemeanors...he can do what ever the fuck he wants!

The swamp is really starting to reveal itself , now more than ever.

Let the scum swirl down the drain.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2019 01:54 PM (u6xw0)

ITS FUNNY CAUSE TRUMP TOOK HER JUNKET PLANE AWAY FROM HER A WHILE BACK AND SHE IS STILL PISSED ABOUT IT.

Posted by: Ben Rothlisbergergler at November 14, 2019 02:01 PM (ymnmz)

191 Remember to use the sinks as urinals.

Always do!

*finger guns*

Posted by: bonhomme at November 14, 2019 02:01 PM (9t0Zz)

192 "Judd Legum@JuddLegum
Replying to @JuddLegum
3. One thing that has changed since Kavanaugh's confirmation is that the evidence against Kavanaugh has gotten STRONGER."

Sometimes I wonder if Judd Legum is really a conservative caricature of a progressive soy boy from Brooklyn. Almost too perfect. He makes Chris Hayes seem macho.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 02:01 PM (OD2ni)

193 It's Attkisson, no "n" before the 'son'

Did you read the comments under the The Hill article? I'm more and more convinced there must be leftist squadrons of disinformation comments posters with instructions to sway public online opinion. It's almost as if commenting is useless now because of them.

Posted by: Sphynx at November 14, 2019 02:02 PM (rXie1)

194 95
93 How does Kelly Ann stayed married to her dwarf husband with goofy eyes?
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 14, 2019 01:42 PM (yRAFu)

=========

You can't explain love.

Or their sex dungeon.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 14, 2019 01:43 PM (q80AH)

_______

*snort*

Actually, that explains a lot ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 14, 2019 02:02 PM (CBwKQ)

195 When your own staff is sabotaging your directives, and you CAN'T fire them?

Can you transfer them? Or their whole department? With public explanations as to why?
Because if we worked together and YOU got the entire department moved to South Dakota, I'd lead the blanket party.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 02:02 PM (qBbz7)

196 The impeachment circus is all about helping Dems in the election. Why is it okay for them?

Posted by: Emmie at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (i/wJA)
Because Gaslight Media covers for them?

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (DJFLF)

197 I read a front page article in the dead tree NYT about victims of child sex abuse being haunted for years due to the videos made of their abuse still being out there and available to other perverts and deviant criminals.

Well I mean, where did you think the FBI got its content for those websites?

The impeachment circus is all about helping Dems in the election. Why is it okay for them?

Yeah, the same as "you can't investigate us!!!" while screaming "no one is above the law!!"

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (KZzsI)

198 desocking, for future reference

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (/sgva)

199 187
Donkey chompers accidently lets the truth slip out

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/348397/

Posted by: steevy at November 14, 2019 02:00 PM (KNsKs)

All this just because they are all butt hurt they lost an election. Someone tell Chuck Todd that that is in fact, a fact. And that is what a fact looks like.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (ymnmz)

200 It's not just LE that's enabling child pedo rings.
I read a front page article in the dead tree NYT about victims of child sex abuse being haunted for years due to the videos made of their abuse still being out there and available to other perverts and deviant criminals. Big Tech has been very slow about removing this ongoing torture chamber from the interwebs.
Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 01:57 PM (DJFLF)

funny how big Tech can find and censor any mention of Voldymorts name (The whistleblower who cannot be named),

Yet can't seem to find child porn.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting Madly at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

201 I'm more and more convinced there must be leftist squadrons of
disinformation comments posters with instructions to sway public online
opinion.>>Hey! Whatever happened to Lerking Lerker?

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:04 PM (DJFLF)

202 funny how big Tech can find and censor any mention of Voldymorts name (The whistleblower who cannot be named),

Yet can't seem to find child porn.
Posted by: Don Quixote

If they'd just look on their own computers....

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 02:04 PM (qBbz7)

203 I hope i can remember just a few of aces insults when I get into dissing match with some lob asshole.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (IGJk8)

204 Thats right Ben, Trump deserved THREE SCOOPS for that stunt and Pelosi is a crazy, miserable ole Bitch!

Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (u6xw0)

205 So the inbred ingrate's elected Trump who now wants to rebuild our foreign policy . . .what to do what to do?

Ignore Trump and do what we want to do -

Constitution Smontitution!

Posted by: State Department Bow Tie wearing Children at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (ICwma)

206 "This is not just about something that has occurred, this is about preventing a potentially disastrous outcome from occurring next year"
--AOC, being honest

When your own staff is sabotaging your directives, and you CAN'T fire them?

I'm not convinced he cannot, only that it would be politically difficult.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (KZzsI)

207 195 When your own staff is sabotaging your directives, and you CAN'T fire them?

Can you transfer them? Or their whole department? With public explanations as to why?
Because if we worked together and YOU got the entire department moved to South Dakota, I'd lead the blanket party.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 02:02 PM (qBbz7)

So airdrop the State Department and enough building supplies to construct a headquarters onto the prairie in South Dakota (in mid-November) and tell them to start building before the snow gets heavy? I endorse this plan.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (RD7QR)

208 funny how big Tech can find and censor any mention of Voldymorts name (The whistleblower who cannot be named),

Yet can't seem to find child porn.
Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting Madly at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (NgKpN)

Somebody needs to promote the new scalp deodorant: HairWick Charmarella.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (/sgva)

209 "Donkey chompers accidently lets the truth slip out

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/348397/
Posted by: steevy"

Yet so-called conservatives like Noah Rothman and Jonah Goldberg are taking this charade seriously (pretending anyway). I am starting to agree that they are not dupes, but are in on the con.*

*The Bulwark crew like Swift, Sykes and Last have always been in on the con.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (OD2ni)

210 Yet can't seem to find child porn.

Posted by: Don Quixote, Tilting Madly at November 14, 2019 02:03 PM (NgKpN)
Their cover story is that the laws for transmitting those images is so stringent that even AI capabilities sharing the files for discovery and ultimately deletion, would run afoul of the law.
>>that's their story anyway

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (DJFLF)

211 192
"Judd Legum@JuddLegum

Replying to @JuddLegum

3. One thing that has changed since Kavanaugh's confirmation is that the evidence against Kavanaugh has gotten STRONGER."

Sometimes I wonder if Judd Legum is really a conservative caricature
of a progressive soy boy from Brooklyn. Almost too perfect. He makes
Chris Hayes seem macho.

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 02:01 PM (OD2ni)

Aaaaaaaaaand the evidence iiiissssssss????? Fact free statement there buddy.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (ymnmz)

212 I couldn't fathom why not one of the Republican representatives didn't ask the simple question, "Mr. Beurocrat, who ultimately determines US foreign policy?"

Posted by: Atyrix at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (A8F2A)

213 funny how big Tech can find and censor any mention of Voldymorts name (The whistleblower who cannot be named),

Yet can't seem to find child porn.

Yeah, its almost as if there's a question of motivation.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM (KZzsI)

214 Foreign policy on Ukraine should be run and monitored by parties who are not directly tied to or related to Ukraine. Hence, Peruvian and Equadorian specialists should be able to handle Ukrainian diplomacy.
Are US diplomats so incompetent that they cannot use basic tools and adapt to a nation they were not specifically trained to serve?
After all, Deplorable mechanics trained on a Ford line of trucks are able to quickly get up to speed on a sporty Fiat.

Diplomacy is not rocket science.

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (e1mEI)

215 Heh,

TheHill:
Pelosi refers to Sinclair's Rosen as 'Mr. Republican Talking Points' over whistleblower question.

What's next? "Okay Mr. Smarty pants"

Posted by: WisRich at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (G0vdT)

216 So quid pro quo didn't work so now it's bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (6XlcD)

217 If we are fortunate enough to get a second Trump term, let's hope POTUS uses his ballsy panache and fires the shit out of these pompous incompetents in State, DOJ and the IC. Civil Service be damned, let the courts sort that out (and ignore them).

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (iw59Q)

218 We need to answer Lenin's best question:

"Who decides?"

President = Constitutional with consent of the governed.

Swamp = Third world shithole.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at November 14, 2019 02:07 PM (u82oZ)

219 216
So quid pro quo didn't work so now it's bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (6XlcD)
>>Yes, the DNC Braintrust decided that "quid pro quo" sounds to much like an Italian seafood dish, to the proles.

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:07 PM (DJFLF)

220 "Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them."

--George Orwell

Posted by: Sharkman at November 14, 2019 02:07 PM (IrbWq)

221 Replying to @JuddLegum

I knew I recognized that name! I looked him up, he still brags about being a "Founding Editor of Think Progress" - yep, that's the lefty Hillary loving site that died in September. (I looked that up, too, he he, last new post there is from September 5th, dead as a doornail since then.)

Oh, and guess what JuddLegum is doing now? Well like ALL failed pundits, he's writing his own newsletter and trying to get people to subscribe to it! Hmm, where have I heard that business plan lately???

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM (Kpl3J)

222 214:

"Are US diplomats so incompetent that they cannot use basic tools and adapt to a nation they were not specifically trained to serve?"

Yes.

Fire the shit out of them.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM (iw59Q)

223 219 216
So quid pro quo didn't work so now it's bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (6XlcD)
>>Yes, the DNC Braintrust decided that "quid pro quo" sounds to much like an Italian seafood dish, to the proles.
Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:07 PM (DJFLF)

That's the stuff with the things, right?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM (RD7QR)

224 funny how big Tech can find and censor any mention of Voldymorts name (The whistleblower who cannot be named)

Apples and orangutans.

1. The name is plain text. Searching for it is trivial.
2. Almost all of the removals they're doing are on their own platform. Facebook is scrubbing Facebook. Twatter is scrubbing Twatter.
3. The videos exist on pedos computers. Scrubbing every version in every format would require deep access into every computer on the planet.

Posted by: bonhomme at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM (9t0Zz)

225 This is why the impeachment circus shitshow is rediculous. The president has wide authority and latitude as CIC and in foreign policy. The dims just can't get past the fact they lost the election.
========
Every word

if dims=deepstate

Posted by: State Department Bow Tie wearing Children at November 14, 2019 02:09 PM (+uxWE)

226 "Judd Legum@JuddLegum
Replying to @JuddLegum
3. One thing that has changed since

And Leon is getting laarrrgggeeerr!!!!

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2019 02:09 PM (axyOa)

227 Its actually Quid Pro Quibery. They gotta remain consistent.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 14, 2019 02:09 PM (IGJk8)

228 Funny how big Tech can find and censor any mention of Voldymorts name (The whistleblower who cannot be named),

Yet can't seem to find child porn.

Yeah, its almost as if there's a question of motivation.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 02:05 PM

Tech be hard, yo.

Posted by: The Zuck at November 14, 2019 02:09 PM (Z2naF)

229 From Drudge:

REPORT: 70% Of Americans Struggling Financially...

-
Worst economy ever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (+y/Ru)

230 When your hearings are shit
And the Senate will acquit
That's a Schiff Show

Posted by: JackStraw at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (ZLI7S)

231 Oh, and guess what JuddLegum is doing now? Well like ALL failed pundits, he's writing his own newsletter and trying to get people to subscribe to it! Hmm, where have I heard that business plan lately???
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM (Kpl3J)

Somebody needs to respond: "I came here to kick ass, and chew Juddlegum, and I'm all out of ass."

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (/sgva)

232 Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him... and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who sold 'em out!

A simple majority in the Senate can opt for a secret ballot, & the DEMs figure they can find 3 brave GOPe who will put country ahead of party & vote with DEMs for a secret ballot.

They say Romney, Murkowski & a traitor to be named later. They could be right about this, too.

Posted by: mnw at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (Cssks)

233 That's the stuff with the things, right?

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM (RD7QR)
>>Yeah, and we eat it after we do that thing we talked about the other day.

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (DJFLF)

234 So are Drudge acolytes called Drudge packers?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'if you can't laugh at yourself, make fun of oher people' at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (IGJk8)

235 Unfortunately, Congress has a hard time jumping Vindman about this, because 90% of all Congressmen (both parties) think THEY should be making foreign policy decisions.

Posted by: Ted K. at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (FJYfm)

236 "Trump took ITAR away..."
Didn't know that. Great news.

Posted by: None shall pass at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (JdcHc)

237 So quid pro quo didn't work so now it's bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM

Someone with a bigger footprint than me needs to be pointing out that, based on their own definition, Congress is guilty en masse of "quid pro quo" and "bribery" every time they tie conditions to funding, e.g. "raise the drinking age or we're withholding your federal highway funding".

Posted by: Bert G at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (Y+/QX)

238 111:

"You know what's even more puzzling? Trump put him in that job when he got rid of Yovanovich. Took him away from the George Soros related NGO he was working for and put him in a position to help start this impeachment clown show.

That's a real head scratcher."

Trump needs to Deep Six the striped pants moron who recommended Taylor. Then do Taylor.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (iw59Q)

239
From Drudge:

REPORT: 70% Of Americans Struggling Financially...

-----

Untreatable Syphilitic infections WILL rot your brain eventually.

Posted by: fixerupper at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (8XRCm)

240 232 Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him... and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who sold 'em out!

A simple majority in the Senate can opt for a secret ballot, & the DEMs figure they can find 3 brave GOPe who will put country ahead of party & vote with DEMs for a secret ballot.

They say Romney, Murkowski & a traitor to be named later. They could be right about this, too.

Posted by: mnw at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (Cssks)

It's basically an invitation to the GOP squishes to revel in their cowardice, which means it's very likely to succeed.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (RD7QR)

241 I've been yelling this since the beginning. Even if the President did everything they are accusing him of doing , which he's not, so what.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (Q5ALd)

242 Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him

As it stands right now, the Dems have been told by the Senate leadership that they will immediately cancel any trial if the GOP cannot call any of their own witnesses. Which is entirely proper since its not an indictment if only one side gets to present a case.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (KZzsI)

243 "Donkey chompers accidently lets the truth slip out

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/348397/

Posted by: steevy"

I see she has learned a new word - emoluments- that she slings around like the word racism without even knowing what it is. She will get it confused with emulsifiers, which are responsible for global warming.

Posted by: Ripley at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (MxEKc)

244 The president serves at the pleasure of the deep state.

US foreign policy was set by president emeritus Obama. Any change to that policy is arbitrary and capricious.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (qkStt)

245
Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so
that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him...
and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who
sold 'em out!

>
Mitch has been signaling a full tilt Senate trial, so once again this excellent demunist plan is just the stuff of fever dreams.

Posted by: kallisto at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (DJFLF)

246 Scrubbing every version in every format would require deep access into every computer on the planet.
Posted by: bonhomme at November 14, 2019 02:08 PM

We have detected virus activities on your computer.

Posted by: Windows Support in Mumbai at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (Z2naF)

247 From Drudge:

REPORT: 70% Of Americans Struggling Financially...

***

What an idiot. 70% of Americans have ALWAYS been struggling financially. And struggle is a relative word.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (axyOa)

248 NOOD

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 14, 2019 02:13 PM (CBwKQ)

249 Obama did so much more against US interests with his foreign policy than the previous five Presidents combined.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 14, 2019 02:13 PM (Q5ALd)

250 Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM (e1mEI)

There are many secondary sources on "The Wonderful Republic of Gonadia" that they can read to get up to speed on the place they are being air freighted to.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 02:13 PM (hLRSq)

251 232
Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so
that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him...
and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who
sold 'em out!

A simple majority in the Senate can opt for a secret ballot,
the DEMs figure they can find 3 brave GOPe who will put country ahead of
party vote with DEMs for a secret ballot.

They say Romney, Murkowski a traitor to be named later. They could be right about this, too.

Posted by: mnw at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (Cssks)

bananas getcher bananas right here.

Everything the Dems do has to be hidden an opaque and a gross will to power.

Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at November 14, 2019 02:13 PM (ymnmz)

252 The word the Democrats are looking for, but seem either too stupid or ignorant to grok, is "blackmail." Not "bribery."

Bribery is when you offer something to get a result. Its black mail when you threaten to withhold or do something to punish someone if they will not give you the result.

Nancy Pelosi is out trying out "coverup" too but everyone is scratching their heads on that one.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at November 14, 2019 02:13 PM (KZzsI)

253 I've been yelling this since the beginning. Even if the President did everything they are accusing him of doing , which he's not, so what.
Posted by: Easy Andy at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (Q5ALd)

Reminiscent of the Clarence Thomas hearings. HE MADE A JOKE ABOUT A PUBIC HAIR ON A CAN OF COKE?!?!? Why, that's...well, it's not what my Mom would have done, but it's not sexual harassment. Can we vote now?

Posted by: Ted K. at November 14, 2019 02:14 PM (FJYfm)

254 If we were a serious nation, John F****** Kerry would be ~~arrested~~ shot for treason.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 14, 2019 01:36 PM (qBbz7)

FIFY

Posted by: Fox2! at November 14, 2019 02:14 PM (Lrxq8)

255 237 So quid pro quo didn't work so now it's bribery

Posted by: It's me donna at November 14, 2019 02:06 PM

Someone with a bigger footprint than me needs to be pointing out that, based on their own definition, Congress is guilty en masse of "quid pro quo" and "bribery" every time they tie conditions to funding, e.g. "raise the drinking age or we're withholding your federal highway funding".
Posted by: Bert G at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (Y+/QX)

Someone has already pointed out publicly that EVERY dime of aid we have given to Ukraine since it came into existence has been tied to specific demands we have made of them. The bribery claim is idiotic, it won't work.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 14, 2019 02:14 PM (Kpl3J)

256 They claim the DOJ is independant from the President so why not the State Department? Soon they will claim the CIA is independent...

Posted by: Wodun at November 14, 2019 02:15 PM (aSbtk)

257 "As it stands right now, the Dems have been told by the Senate leadership that they will immediately cancel any trial if the GOP cannot call any of their own witnesses. Which is entirely proper since its not an indictment if only one side gets to present a case.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor"

It will be hilarious watching the Dem/Media/Bulwark alliance pea cocking about Schiff being able to make his own rules reverse course when it is McConnell's turn. If the process were not so unfair and damaging to the country, impeachment would almost be worth it for that

Posted by: Benji Carver at November 14, 2019 02:15 PM (OD2ni)

258 Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him... and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who sold 'em out!

Hmmm...and perhaps the members of the 42nd Street Militia of Dumbfuckistan will hold their own secret ballot.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2019 02:15 PM (axyOa)

259 "251 232
Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so
that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him...
and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who
sold 'em out!

A simple majority in the Senate can opt for a secret ballot,
the DEMs figure they can find 3 brave GOPe who will put country ahead of
party vote with DEMs for a secret ballot.

They say Romney, Murkowski a traitor to be named later. They could be right about this, too.

Posted by: mnw at November 14, 2019 02:10 PM (Cssks)

bananas getcher bananas right here.

Everything the Dems do has to be hidden an opaque and a gross will to power."

There's always a reservoir, dwindling but still there, of GOP retards like Romney and Murkowski, to simultaneously virtue signal and shoot their dick.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at November 14, 2019 02:16 PM (iw59Q)

260 Odds of finding Schiff gunned down in front of his apartment building?
Posted by: Puddin Head

Getten better every day.

Posted by: Crusty Uncle Roscoe at November 14, 2019 02:16 PM (jLsPj)

261 Just a follow up to the last thread, it's really a misunderstanding to think the transgender issue is more common in men. New cases of girls coming as transgender has exploded by something close to 1000%. It's spreading rapidly in a manner very similar to anorexia in the 80's. But unlike anorexia, they are encouraged to transition by most psychiatrists and medical professionals.

Posted by: Max Power at November 14, 2019 02:16 PM (q177U)

262 Ahem...Drudge is a paid for loser whore who doesn't know his ass from his elbow.

Posted by: Stephen Moore & Jamie Dimon at November 14, 2019 02:16 PM (u6xw0)

263 She will get it confused with emulsifiers, which are responsible for global warming.
Posted by: Ripley at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM

We discussed achieving cohesiveness using paste on the ONT.

Posted by: Joe Biden at November 14, 2019 02:16 PM (Z2naF)

264 A month ago we were called whack job, conspiracy theorists for claiming there was a Deep State subverting the will of the people. Today the Deep State is telling everyone Your damn right we called the Code Red.

And we are talking about Ukraine.
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Wonderfully made point.

Ironic that a liberal wrote that scene to demonize a military officer, and, as it typical, it is actually projection by the liberal writer.

Posted by: simplemind at November 14, 2019 02:17 PM (waqst)

265 "Hot DEM newness is "secret ballot vote to convic"t in the Senate, so that all the GOP Senators who dislike Trump can vote to remove him... and their constituents out in dumbfuckistan will never figure out who sold 'em out!"

This will work like trying to convince electors to change their votes from Trump to Hillary worked! Or telling Congress not to certify the election results! Or Emoluments! Stormy Daniels! Wait, wait, don't go away I have more hare-brained schemes of utter desperation that are sure to get rid of the Golden Scalp Weasel!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 14, 2019 02:17 PM (hLRSq)

266 Just when you think shit couldn't get more outlandish, the martyrdom of Schiff would send us all hurling into another celestial orbit.

Posted by: Stephen Moore & Jamie Dimon at November 14, 2019 02:18 PM (u6xw0)

267 247 From Drudge:

REPORT: 70% Of Americans Struggling Financially...

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What an idiot. 70% of Americans have ALWAYS been struggling financially. And struggle is a relative word.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 14, 2019 02:12 PM (axyOa)

For G-d's sake, spend America! Spend like the wind! For tomorrow we bankrupt!

Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at November 14, 2019 02:19 PM (e1mEI)

268 Geeze... the sock are extra stocky today.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2019 02:20 PM (u6xw0)

269 stocky and sticky.

I'm done...BBL

Posted by: dananjcon at November 14, 2019 02:21 PM (u6xw0)

270 229 From Drudge:

REPORT: 70% Of Americans Struggling Financially...
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Worst economy ever!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler
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What is this dredge you speak of - never heard of it. And the headline is missing ...in democrat run cities.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at November 14, 2019 02:23 PM (sA0t4)

271 too late to work within the system too early to shoot the bastard . . .

a stitch in time, saves nine!

Posted by: poor richard at November 14, 2019 02:26 PM (cWfVB)

272 The problem with people, who are career bureaucrats, who think they, not the President, determine what foreign policy is - is that when they were in high school the football team didn't drag them into the girl's restroom and dunk their heads in the toilets while the cheerleaders laughed at them.
This needed to be done not because the football players were bullies - but because the future bureaucrats are industrial strength douche bags and desperately needed to learn that fact.

Posted by: An Observation at November 14, 2019 02:26 PM (rpNpp)

273 Nood.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at November 14, 2019 02:28 PM (ayFCE)

274 Maybe he's really good at trapping and dis-information. Like some sort of Stable Genius.

Posted by: DaveA at November 14, 2019 02:28 PM (FhXTo)

275 Jack Straw #230

You just dated yourself. And so did I. Well done, Sir.

Posted by: macthenaif at November 14, 2019 02:29 PM (EGbdG)

276 REPORT: 70% Of Americans Struggling Financially...
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who is reporting this

how is "struggling" defined? Not making sufficient income to require payment of federal income tax?

I vividly recall the news during Reagan's term telling for years that the country was failing night after night. It became ridiculous when most people knew multiple people out of work under Carter who had started working again about two years into Reagan.

A tyranny of slander, lies and defamation.

Posted by: simplemind at November 14, 2019 02:32 PM (ICwma)

277 @166
I agree. From my knowledge of the period the Johnson impeachment is much closer to the current dynamic than Nixon or Clinton. Johnson was an abrasive a-hole and to many in Congress he seemed backsliding on the overall war aims of the Union, and so the Congress drummed up a lot of legislative (unconstitutional) traps like the Tenure in Office Act so they could say "gotcha" and impeach primarily because they couldn't stand the guy or his policy.

But then you had a number of Congressmen in both parties who stepped back from the brink and considered the precedent of conviction over political aims to be a bridge too far. I have less confidence in the historical perspective and principal of today's legislators. I don't think Trump will be convicted and I'd say its even money if the House even "impeaches" on the current trajectory, but the comparison is interesting.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 14, 2019 02:33 PM (koNhm)

278 I don't think Trump will be convicted and I'd say its even money if the House even "impeaches" on the current trajectory, but the comparison is interesting.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at November 14, 2019 02:33 PM (koNhm)

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In order to keep this out of the incapable and devious hands of the Senate, I hope you are right, and Nancy can get this under control, and keep it in the House. But I don't think she can. She's too weak.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 14, 2019 02:37 PM (9zpat)

279 Exactly my thinking.

If trump decides to have Rudy go to Ukraine and have private conversation with the president...so? He can conduct his foreign policy any way he wants. Full stop. He can also sack any ambassador he wants.

Posted by: Inspector Kemp at November 14, 2019 02:51 PM (noE+3)

280 Time to clean house. Here's what I'd do: charge Eric Cartman -- I mean Ciaramella -- with perjury and lying on the WB form. If he's not a WB, don't let them treat him as one. That would start things unraveling and the whole Schiff show would have to be shut down by Democrats in order to retain any credibility. Pelosi should resign for being such a patsy, and Schiff should be tarred and feathered and run out on a rail -- by Democrats.

Posted by: Starboardhelm at November 14, 2019 02:56 PM (hOtJL)

281 It's basically an invitation to the GOP squishes to revel in their cowardice, which means it's very likely to succeed.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 14, 2019 02:11 PM (RD7QR)

Even Romney is not dumb enough to fall for that.

Posted by: redbanzai the Southerner at November 14, 2019 03:08 PM (nAiE/)

282 Well, by their own beliefs, The Left is and *should always be* the default Ruler-Of-Everything.

Over at Neo's they were talking about the absolute impossibility of communication between groups of people who have differing First Principles. (It was couched as "people who have different Realities", but it's the same thing.)

If I and my group believe we are Divinity Itself walking amongst lesser beings, we are not going to engage those lesser beings on points of policy. (We don't ask cattle if they want to be tonight's dinner, either.)

On the other hand, if my group believes that we are not Divine, but fundamentally weak-and-stupid, we approach life and governance in a much different way.

This difference in outlook goes back to the time of Moses.
"OK, the Lord has delivered us; here are the rules that God says we should live by."

Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at November 14, 2019 04:02 PM (tCciS)

283 Ocasio-Cortez likes her e-words.
Externalities, Emulsifiers, Emoluments, Epstein didn't kill himself, Eh, you already knew that last one....

Posted by: Still Another Zap Rowsdower at November 14, 2019 04:09 PM (P/ALc)

284 ((woopsie, who moved my Enter key?))

"These are the rules we should live by" said Moses

"We want a king. Where is our king. GIVE US A KING", said the newly freed people.

"You don't need a king. These are the rules, follow them, you are free, no longer slaves, and God promises the fullness of the earth to you if you act according to his rule. You don't need a king; why would you want to be slaves to a king when you just received freedom after generations of slavery?"

But "We Want A King" was still the clamor of the people.

It seems to me that's the Eternal Tension between people: some want to rule, and some want to BE ruled (it makes life so much easier- the guys on top get their way; the peons don't have to worry about making decisions, and they get to whine and threaten the social order when bad times hit).
Then there are those OTHER people who want to make their own rules and live their own lives and suffer or profit from the consequences of their choices.

ETERNAL. TENSION. And for some reason, this tension is bubbling up all around the world in our current era...

Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at November 14, 2019 04:15 PM (tCciS)

285 Foggy Bottom needs brought to heel. Trump is doing that and they can't stand it.

Posted by: portlandon at November 14, 2019 05:06 PM (+oR7L)

286 Bribery???? I think when the founders thought of High Crimes, they thought of "Bribery". Basically at that time Benedict Arnold was bribed by the Brits with money, a Command in their army and property in England (things of value) otherwise he would not have committed treason. I believe this is the Bribery they thought about, selling out on the U.S., not paying other countries to do our bidding. That happens on a daily basis in many countries. They need to be careful because they received bribes in many ways, such as gifts, kids hired for huge money (Biden) and the Clinton Foundation to name a few. Trump has not committed bribery and Epstein did not kill himself.

Posted by: Kemo at November 14, 2019 06:10 PM (Hs6uk)

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