Nine Americans -- Including Six Children -- Slaughtered in Mexico, Likely In a Drug Cartel Ambush

Many more missing, probably kidnapped for ransom -- or worse.

At least six children and three women, all Americans with ties to Utah, were killed in a daylight ambush in Northern Mexico on Monday, likely by cartel gunmen. The family reports that more than a dozen family members are still missing following the attack on the caravan of three SUVs, believed to have been kidnapped following the massacre.
The victims were all part of the LeBaron family and lived in La Mora, a Mormon fundamentalist community established decades-ago in Mexico's Sonora state as an offshoot of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Some of the children had been born in Mexico and thus were dual citizens.
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While early reports have surmised that the cold-blooded murders were carried out by Mexican drug cartels in a tragic case of mistaken identity, the record suggests it's possible that a local drug cartel was targeting the family. A decade ago, two members of the LeBaron family who were known anti-crime activists were shot and killed by a cartel.

....monsters, the United States stands ready, willing & able to get involved and do the job quickly and effectively. The great new President of Mexico has made this a big issue, but the cartels have become so large and powerful that you sometimes need an army to defeat an army!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 5, 2019

This is the time for Mexico, with the help of the United States, to wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth. We merely await a call from your great new president!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 5, 2019

Noted sockpuppet and narcissist Pierre Delecto was more measured, because bloodless proceduralism and appeals to cooperation are a liberal technocrat's idea of strength.

Ann and I are heartbroken for the victims of the horrific attacks in Mexico. Our prayers are with their families who have suffered such an unspeakable tragedy. The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence.
— Mitt Romney (@MittRomney) November 5, 2019

The slaughter was so awful, and the signs of Mexico's status as a gangster state so ominous, that even Ben Sasse was impassioned enough to... release a written statement.

My gosh! My hero!

Update:

7 Ann and I are heartbroken for the victims of the horrific attacks in Mexico. Our prayers are with their families who have suffered such an unspeakable tragedy. The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence.
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"I look forward to forgetting about this with the next turn of the news cycle."
-Suggested translation
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 03:01 PM

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1 1?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 03:01 PM (ECrgQ)

2 Four in a row. Gonna quit now.

Off to summon the Corgis.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (ECrgQ)

3 not 1?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (q80AH)

4 Someone needs to contain the cartels. Nobody in Mexico is raising their hand.

Posted by: henry at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (JMDly)

5 Can we trade Romney for the hostages?

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (9g3um)

6 Oh, I'm sure our Betters in the GOPe will ask us to ignore it and go start a war in another sandbox 10,000 miles away.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (1Vobx)

7 Ann and I are heartbroken for the victims of the horrific attacks in Mexico. Our prayers are with their families who have suffered such an unspeakable tragedy. The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence.

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"I look forward to forgetting about this with the next turn of the news cycle."
-Suggested translation

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (q80AH)

8 Performing the slaughters Americans won't.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (IpMhW)

9 This is such a terrible story.

Can we predict if the nightly news will embargo this story or not?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (so+oy)

10 Someone needs to contain the cartels. Nobody in Mexico is raising their hand.
Posted by: henry at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (JMDly)

Nobody in Mexico may be able to.

Posted by: Vanya at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (NOnxX)

11 Where have you gone, Black Jack Pershing?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Woo woo woo.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (wCmLp)

12
Good to know, Mitt. Good to know.

** snarf **

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (pNxlR)

13 Not even close to first....

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (Fvogs)

14 Dammit, unlucky 13.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (Fvogs)

15 BUILD THE WALL, DAMMIT!!!

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (sy5kK)

16 This is the kind of thing that results in military intervention.

Posted by: Ernst Schreiber at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (xmKbk)

17 Oh, but Trump's an isolationist!

This is good. A return to our historical attitude. Just don't go all Wilsonian like GWB.

Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (ZbwAu)

18 I wonder how many people had to see Mitt Romney's statement before it was approved for release.

Posted by: Mark1971 at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (xPl2J)

19 Contain the cartels? No. Someone needs to terminate them with extreme prejudice? Yes pleas!

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (myjNJ)

20 I sure hope we offer free health care to millions more who want to cross into our country because theirs is full of this kind of bullsh*t.

[May God have mercy on the souls of the innocents who were killed.]

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (xptlg)

21 Someone needs to contain the cartels. Nobody in Mexico is raising their hand.
_____________

They don't raise their hands against the cartels because they want to keep their heads!

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (k4dH2)

22
Even now, stern words are queuing up to issue firth in sternly worded letters.

Ah, diplomacy!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (pNxlR)

23 17 Oh, but Trump's an isolationist!

This is good. A return to our historical attitude. Just don't go all Wilsonian like GWB.
Posted by: Eeyore at November 05, 2019 03:04 PM (ZbwAu)

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That wouldn't be Wilsonian, what Trump is potentially proposing.

It's more in line with Jacksonianism.

Trump isn't talking about a League of Nations, he's talking about killing those who killed American citizens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (q80AH)

24 This is such a terrible story.

Can we predict if the nightly news will embargo this story or not?

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM

No. It'll be covered since Mittens made a statement.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (axyOa)

25 Mexico is a failed state on our southern border. We need to treat it as such.

Posted by: Guzalot at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (prSvo)

26 People forget that Mexico is a Third World Shithole

Film at 11.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (4L8Yt)

27 Bring the troops home from Afghanistan, S. Korea, Iraq, Syria... wherever.

We need them here. We have problems close to home that are not being dealt with while we protect the EU's oil prices (while they won't Frack for themselves).

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (NgKpN)

28 The cartels control northern Mexico. They are the government and the government is the interloper. But there's no need for a wall.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (RD7QR)

29 Well, you have a failing (or failed) narco-state on your southern border, and this sort of shit is bound to happen.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (77WPm)

30 Smart people stay the FUCK OUTTA MESSICO.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (macz7)

31 Mexico has become too dangerous for people to live their safely because of the US's incessant meddling with the drug war and inherent white colonialism. We must allow all Mexicans into the US to live in a safer, more humanitarian environment.

And, we should pay them all reparations.

Posted by: AOC at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (IfpGX)

32 Break up Mexico into several small states, appoint military governors, and burn a few cities to make examples.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (wCmLp)

33 This story is just too horrible. I often wonder at men (and women) capable of killing innocents, especially children.

Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (a0IVu)

34 I wouldn't mind seeing some nation building in the failed Narco State south of our border. Free Baja!

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (xQJTG)

35 the LeBaron clan featured heavily in Jon Krakauer's "Under The Banner Of Heaven". Polygamist offshoot, with a byline in murder, mostly of LeBarons. One reason they've lasted this long in Mexico is that even the Mexicans are a little afraid of them.

Apparently one of them wrote a new Bible, "Mormon" style. It's mostly a hitlist of that guy's enemies. I also saw in the Daily Mail's picture of one of the kids that he's flashing a hand sign. Looks gang-ish.

I am not entirely sure that this is a cartel. Or if it is, I'm wondering if the LeBarons are a part of it.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (ykYG2)

36 Us military v Mexican drug cartels?

So crazy it just might work.

Posted by: eleven at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (tH5fk)

37 Maybe we should build a wall between the US and Mexico - nah, that's just Crazy Talk!

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (hLRSq)

38 Somewhere not far away, some very rich, very comfortable people have asked the question, "How can we use this to make Trump look bad"?

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (IpMhW)

39 BYU honor code horror stories

google it

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (FZYNt)

40 But respect all cultures

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (V6ytW)

41 BUILD THE WALL, DAMMIT!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

Wall wouldn't have helped in this case. That's all on Mexico.

But I DO agree.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (NJ+n1)

42 This will go down the same memory hole as the couple murdered and their truck and rv driven into Mexico.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (6qErC)

43 9 This is such a terrible story.

Can we predict if the nightly news will embargo this story or not?
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (so+oy)

The news will prominently mention "break away Mormon cult" at least four or five times. And, of course, Orange Man-related, somehow.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (sy5kK)

44 9 Dead Americans...
I'm thinking they're worth about a Brigade each, plus supporting Artillery and Engineers.
That's essentially three Divisions. Should be a good start.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (axyOa)

45 30 Smart people stay the FUCK OUTTA MESSICO.
Posted by: Xipe Totec

^^this^^

Posted by: Rick in SK at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (FZYNt)

46 Time to send Rambo down

Posted by: steevy at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (KNsKs)

47 How long before Willard blames Trump and his reckless foreign policy for these murders?

Posted by: Fritz at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (2Mnv1)

48 Also: Romney's dad George was born in this community.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (ykYG2)

49 Can we trade Romney for the hostages?
Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM

We'll throw in a dog and some magic undies! And a bag of Funyons to show we are serious.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (U7cQ/)

50 Geez, all from the same family? That is pretty horrifying- even though it would be horrifying if they were all strangers to each other.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (ycWCI)

51 We used to vacation in mexico - not anymore and never again.

Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 03:07 PM (a0IVu)

52 21 Someone needs to contain the cartels. Nobody in Mexico is raising their hand.
_____________

They don't raise their hands against the cartels because they want to keep their heads!
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at November 05, 2019 03:05 PM (k4dH2)

What you see in Mexico is what can happen to a state with no 2nd Amendment.

Law abiding types can't own guns, so the Narcos had a Monopoly on violence, until they became so powerful they now can take on the State itself.

Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (NgKpN)

53 Senseless violence?

Really?

Currently, that could be used to describe someone not using a persons preferred pronoun.

Posted by: WisRich at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (G0vdT)

54 Apparently there were some months old twins also slaughtered in the massacre.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (1CjJc)

55 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

56 Wouldn't go to Mexico on a bet without armed escort.

Funny, another Mormon tie to Mexico.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (oVJmc)

57 Personally, I refuse to live in a "gun-free zone" that prevents me from protecting myself and my family and friends and even strangers -- be it another country, shitholes in this country -- and if that ever happens here nationwide, I'll be an ex-pat.

Posted by: ShainS -- Trump/Conan the Hero Dog 2020: Two Barbarians for the Price of One!!! at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (43VTL)

58 Multi Billion Dollar drug business, ruled by no rules. What you expect?

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (jsWA8)

59 VIVA LA MEXICO!!!!

Right?

RIGHT!!??

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (Zz0t1)

60 This story is just too horrible. I often wonder at men (and women) capable of killing innocents, especially children.
Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (a0IVu)

We have an entire political party that campaigns on that very thing.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (IpMhW)

61 Couldn't we just drone the shit out of the cartels? Get overflight permission, maybe let a Mexican General press the actual fire button.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (xQJTG)

62 Odd to realize that mormons feel better in Mexico than in America to keep polygamy going.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (Fvogs)

63 Why did I ever vote for this Ass.

I thought LOVE IS LOVE, why are people so against people getting married to multiple people. If Gay marriage is legal so should Polygamy

Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (K8LjS)

64 Americans who choose to live in Mexico are assuming the risk.

There are glossy magazines, like "International Living," that always tout various places in Mexico as ideal retirement sites for Americans. The drug cartels? WHAT drug cartels? Let's talk about the beaches and the cost of living!

Posted by: mnw at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (Cssks)

65 The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence.

Mexico has precisely zero control over the northern third (at least) of their own country, asshole.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (77WPm)

66 "The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence." - Hit to tell ya this, Pierre, but Mexican Officials are owned by the cartels and were probably in on the slaughter.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (O7MnT)

67 11 Where have you gone, Black Jack Pershing?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Woo woo woo.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (wCmLp)

My grandfather rode with Black Jack Pershing in Mexico. I expect that when my son turns 18 and joins the US Army, he will be the fourth generation doing the same.

Mexico is a poo-hole of a disaster and more and more becoming a threat to our safety. If we can clean up the cartels and establish something of a decent economy, then the folks will quit trying to cross the border.

Please, President Trump, make this happen and soon.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (vVOK2)

68 Romney's father was actually born in Mexico in one of those Mormon enclaves. They were originally established to keep practicing polygamy when US Mormons gave it up in exchange for Utah becoming a state.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (N4xQB)

69 BUILD THE WALL, DAMMIT!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

Wall wouldn't have helped in this case. That's all on Mexico.

But I DO agree.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM

***

Build it about 50 miles inside Mexico.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (axyOa)

70 Start killing the cartel with drones and when the Mexican government complains, then kill them with drones too. Let God sort them out.

Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (2SB+z)

71 >>The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence.

Is he suggesting some sort of quid pro quo?

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (4L8Yt)

72 Mitts response seems sincere

Posted by: Regular Wine Mom at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (6/uwW)

73 I say we deep insert Mitt Romney into Sonora and see what he can find out with his scary Mormon skilz. Equip him with a bicycle. No one will suspect a thing.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (yRAFu)

74 Horrific.

If only the same people tweeting out sympathy were committed to *stopping these cartels from crossing our border as they please* and committing their crimes here, too, killing Americans, too.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (bDqIh)

75 How long before Willard blames Trump and his reckless foreign policy for these murders?"

Probably about an hour ago

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (6qErC)

76 41 BUILD THE WALL, DAMMIT!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

Wall wouldn't have helped in this case. That's all on Mexico.

But I DO agree.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (NJ+n1)

I'm not referring to this terrible incident.

I AM referring to all of the similar terrible incidents that will be happening in America like this in future years.

The wall isn't the catch-all, end-all, be-all, but it will slow down the cartels. Those same cartels that are operating in southern Arizona, New Mexico, and parts of Texas right now.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (sy5kK)

77 BUILD THE WALL, DAMMIT!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

The left is actually blaming the wall for pissing off the cartels leading to this kind of violence.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (Zz0t1)

78 Build the wall....100 miles into Mexico....out of Uranium-235....

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (oZ6kz)

79 My grandfather rode with Black Jack Pershing in Mexico. I expect that when my son turns 18 and joins the US Army, he will be the fourth generation doing the same.

Mexico is a poo-hole of a disaster and more and more becoming a threat to our safety. If we can clean up the cartels and establish something of a decent economy, then the folks will quit trying to cross the border.

Please, President Trump, make this happen and soon.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (vVOK2)

I like to joke that Mexico is training wheels for the US Army. It gives them a chance to practice before the real war kicks off. Judging by the state of the world, we may be due for another expedition.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (wCmLp)

80 I posted in another thread that too bad this wasn't the 1800's Mormons. They would put something together for a counter attack.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (tL/BP)

81 >>Romney's father was actually born in Mexico in one of those Mormon enclaves. They were originally established to keep practicing polygamy when US Mormons gave it up in exchange for Utah becoming a state.

Thanks - forgot that.

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (bDqIh)

82 73 I say we deep insert Mitt Romney into Sonora and see what he can find out with his scary Mormon skilz. Equip him with a bicycle. No one will suspect a thing.
Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM (yRAFu)

Mitt's magic underwear will keep him hidden and safe.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (sy5kK)

83 Mittens is wrong. The violence isn't senseless. It's perfectly understandable. Barbarians are gonna barbarian.

Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (2SB+z)

84 "hold accountable"??? Tater Stelter thinks that is a pansy ass statement.

Posted by: the dandy at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (bR08X)

85 Let's talk about the beaches and the cost of living!

Posted by: mnw at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (Cssks)

The beaches and cost of living are nice. The dying, bullet-riddled, in a fire next to the rest of your family, not so much.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (1CjJc)

86 But don't you dare call it a shithole.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (oVJmc)

87 Great time to invade Sonora. Imagine using the US military to defend Americans and America. Is that allowed?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (yRAFu)

88 I'm not saying it was a Chupicabra...

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:11 PM (4L8Yt)

89 Just curious: Mormon fundamentalist. Does that mean they are living in Mexico so they can practice polygamy?

A shame Mexico is such a failed state.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (8bFEc)

90 54 Apparently there were some months old twins also slaughtered in the massacre.
Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (1CjJc)

Eternal rest grant unto them Oh Lord, and perpetual light shine upon them.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (vVOK2)

91 Fuck off Romney

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (IpMhW)

92 >>The left is actually blaming the wall for pissing off the cartels leading to this kind of violence.

Oh, was America's skirt too short???

Posted by: Lizzy at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (bDqIh)

93 Why isn't Mitt calling for stricter gun control laws in Mexico?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (KUaJL)

94 I'm calling it. Mexico is not a real country, not even a shithole country. Mexico is simply a geographical area that has degenerated into a Thunderdome.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (+y/Ru)

95 Willowed:

390 And now a word from Joe Walsh:

Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual
authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the
Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Put another way: I'm way more afraid of a dictator than I am of a guaranteed jobs program or free college.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (+y/Ru)

Trump broke this moron, too.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (77WPm)

96 I say we deep insert Mitt Romney into Sonora and see what he can find out with his scary Mormon skilz. Equip him with a bicycle. No one will suspect a thing.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM

Don't forget the white shirt, name tag and bike helmet.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (axyOa)

97 incidents that will be"

Will?

Last month outside Corpus Christi.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (6qErC)

98 [Someone needs to contain the cartels. Nobody in Mexico is raising their hand.

Posted by: henry at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (JMDly)

The Sinaloa cartel literally just beat the Mexican miltary in a battle down in Culiacan. Mexico CAN'T contain the cartels. They're a hollow vessel.

A Drug Cartel Just Defeated the Mexican Military in Battle (The Federalist)
https://tinyurl.com/y3qcm47r

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (rP4OC)

99 Been to Juarez a few times and some other parts of Mexico. Like any people, most just want to live their lives and be left alone. The problem is two fold. There's so much corruption nobody can trust anybody. And the populace is unarmed. Remember that the next time some pile of shit tells you that you can't be armed for your safety.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (U7cQ/)

100 61 Couldn't we just drone the shit out of the cartels? Get overflight permission, maybe let a Mexican General press the actual fire button.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (xQJTG)

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AC-130. A fleet of them.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (qC1Sy)

101 BUILD THE WALL, DAMMIT!!!
Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg

Wall wouldn't have helped in this case. That's all on Mexico.

But I DO agree.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (NJ+n1)

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Build the Wall!

Keep it in Mexico.

Enforce the Drug Laws in the US. Our drug addicts keep the Cartels in business.

Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (+0uDE)

102 43. CBS Radio is reporting it pretty straight. Their take: case of mistaken identity.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (wXMeL)

103 See, if we had open borders, then all of these people could come to the US, and then when they murdered 9 people, we could arrest them here, and not violate Mexico's sovereignty.

It's so simple, you silly Trumpers!

Posted by: Bill Kristol at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (FJYfm)

104 Romney's next statement will be the one to watch.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (IpMhW)

105 >>The beaches and cost of living are nice. The dying, bullet-riddled, in a fire next to the rest of your family, not so much.

'You don't think I'm Pretty enough to be a Cartel Sex Slave?'

Posted by: One week a Month at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (4L8Yt)

106 Only way for Mexico to even 'think' about letting the Yanquis south of the Rio Grande would be if they appealed to the OAS for assistance. Which would mean the OAS would ask the US for military muscle.

Even that indirect way would doom any Mexican politician to being labeled a lap-dog of the Americans.

So Plan B

1. Locate the vermin who did this.
2. Dispatch a B-2 loaded with JDAMs
3. Eradicate vermin
4. News of mysterious explosions in Mexico

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (jA4b7)

107 We can't build the wall now. That would trap all those innocent sparks of humanity in Mexico with all those other sparks of humanity.

Posted by: Dems at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (W3N86)

108 Repost from late last thread.

For those who have prayed for my MiL, thank you. She had second of most recent MRI's recently, and she is still clear.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (1CjJc)

109 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Shut up and sing.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (xQJTG)

110 The cartels are OCP. "We practically are the military."

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (oZ6kz)

111 33 This story is just too horrible. I often wonder at men (and women) capable of killing innocents, especially children.
Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (a0IVu)

When was the last time you prayed outside a Planned Parenthood? It happens daily.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (vVOK2)

112 The LaBaron family plays a prominent role in Jon Krakaer's "Under the Banner of Heaven." They are polygamists who fled the U.S. to Mexico and are (loosely) connected to Warren Jeffs.

Posted by: RS at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (CNQqJ)

113 Ann and I are heartbroken for the victims of the horrific attacks in Mexico. Had they been wearing their Magic Underpants this tragedy could have been averted.

Posted by: Pierre Defecto at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (v0R5T)

114 Mittens you fuckstain...the Mexican govt and the Cartels are one and the same.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (FiUMj)

115
Willowed:

Appropriately titled thread for my problem, if I'm not too late to get replies.

Anyway, my computer has slowed WAY down the last few days. I even get the spinning wheel when trying to load or re-load the all-text threads here.

8-core Cybertron running Pale Moon with Adblock Latitude and NoScript. Any ideas how to get back up to normal speed?

Posted by: Empire1 at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (cFsua)

116 So Plan B

1. Locate the vermin who did this.
2. Dispatch a B-2 loaded with JDAMs
3. Eradicate vermin
4. News of mysterious explosions in Mexico

A Clancy novel.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (xQJTG)

117 The violence isn't senseless. It's perfectly understandable"

Most violence is. Our betters can't understand that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (6qErC)

118 Donald Trump's actual
authoritarianism ...

Questions never asked: such as?

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (77WPm)

119 11 Where have you gone, Black Jack Pershing?
Our nation turns its lonely eyes to you.
Woo woo woo.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:03 PM (wCmLp)

First we need a Pancho Villa. Have him wipe out all the cartels. Then we send in Pershing.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (8bFEc)

120 102 43. CBS Radio is reporting it pretty straight. Their take: case of mistaken identity.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (wXMeL)

Maybe when the cartel were shooting the kids in the back when they were running away, they mistakenly thought they were just shooting at the other cartel's jockeys.

Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (2SB+z)

121 how was the LeBaron clan supporting itself in that lawless shithole?

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (wXMeL)

122 Time to play Cowboys and Mexicans...

Again

Posted by: CSMBigBird at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (jsWA8)

123 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Shorter Joe Walsh "I'm a liar and an idiot."

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (KUaJL)

124 118 Donald Trump's actual
authoritarianism ...

Questions never asked: such as?
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (77WPm)

============

You don't have many gay camps in your area, do you?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (q80AH)

125 TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

INVADE INVADE INVADE

bonus, we can take their oil and demand tribute

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (l8gTz)

126 Hey, we had two mass shootings last week in CA and TX. Since there was no white male shooter it didn't make the news. Same deal here.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (yRAFu)

127 Trump broke this moron, too.
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (77WPm)
----
Life has not been good to him.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (3Z6pZ)

128 We need a buffer state between us and the messican interior. A hundred miles of buffer zone patrolled by troops with automatic weapons, mortars, APCs, attack helicopters.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (macz7)

129 63 Why did I ever vote for this Ass.

I thought LOVE IS LOVE, why are people so against people getting married to multiple people. If Gay marriage is legal so should Polygamy
Posted by: Patrick From Ohio at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM

Don't worry, it's coming. Gender was just an arbitrary restriction on marriage, so we got it overturned. The number of people is also arbitrary, so we'll change that, too (we'll call it polyamory, though, be religious-based polygamy is icky).

And speaking of numbers being arbitrary, our NAMBLA friends have some even more exciting ideas for down the road!

Posted by: Progressives Everywhere at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (IfpGX)

130 I'm a conservative, but
... "I really love watching Paolo go to Pound Town on my wife"

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (ykYG2)

131 -
--
The left is actually blaming the wall for pissing off the cartels leading to this kind of violence.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 03:10 PM

------------------------

They blame hurricanes on cow farts, so you can't expect much.

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (pMGkg)

132 Meanwhile, Joe Walsh has his own concerns.

Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom
I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Put another way: I'm way more afraid of a dictator than I am of a guaranteed jobs program or free college.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (+y/Ru)

133 Broseidon,

Rie Tanaka will be at Anime Central next year.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (jA4b7)

134 Can we trade Romney for the hostages?

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 03:02 PM (9g3um)

I doubt if we can get more than two donkeys for him.

IF we get involved in this Mexican civil war, we will get bloody and bloodied. In either case, IMPEACH!

C'mon, you know it to be true.

Posted by: GnuBreed at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (Z4rgH)

135 125
TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

INVADE INVADE INVADE

bonus, we can take their oil and demand busty mexican weather girls as tribute

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (l8gTz)

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (1CjJc)

136
Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual
authoritarianism

Which authoritarianism is that, Joe?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (oVJmc)

137
No Blood for Dysentery! And Dengue, Typhus, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Syphillis, PPNG, Squalor, Crime..

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (zBaqJ)

138 Their take: case of mistaken identity."

The Beeb and Telemundo mention the anti cartel activities...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (6qErC)

139 This calls for the formation of a blue ribbon panel.

Posted by: Pierre Delinquo at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (aKsyK)

140 Reading the replies to Pierre's tweets is desk head banging bad. It's all "Trump is to blame for this" and snarking about the wall.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (FiUMj)

141 Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler

Had you covered @95, amigo!

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (77WPm)

142 114 Mittens you fuckstain...the Mexican govt and the Cartels are one and the same.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (FiUMj)

That's an interesting point. It's probably correct that the cartels own the government. Would be a reason why the Mexican President won't ask the US to kill the cartels over this.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (Fvogs)

143 the LeBaron clan featured heavily in Jon Krakauer's "Under The Banner Of Heaven".

And they are experts in rich Corinthian leather.

Posted by: Ricardo Montalban at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (ZGrMX)

144 What you see in Mexico is what can happen to a state with no 2nd Amendment.

Law abiding types can't own guns, so the Narcos had a Monopoly on violence, until they became so powerful they now can take on the State itself.
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (NgKpN)

Such a great point. And so very true.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (sy5kK)

145

"The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence."

We can probably get to it in a few weeks. I don't see why we need to rush into anything here, we need a measured response. Reminds me of my time at Bain, we had to manage quite a few crises, and I was responsible for managing a measured and mature response to those situations.

-Mitch Cumstein

Posted by: Rev. Dr. E Buzz Miller, Lesbian at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (ikxxu)

146 102 43. CBS Radio is reporting it pretty straight. Their take: case of mistaken identity.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (wXMeL)

=========

Whoops!

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (q80AH)

147 114 Mittens you fuckstain...the Mexican govt and the Cartels are one and the same.
-----------------
Bingo. And they both are close friends of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (yRAFu)

148 I don't understand the downside of designating the cartels as terrorists.

Posted by: Ever at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (ZZDMQ)

149
Romney has faith in the power of bland anodyne spoken words to change the world for the better, even if this placid, passive approach is considered controversial by the mainstream. That's how he earned his nickname from his good friends in the press: Palaverick.

The same good friends in the press who humiliatingly outed him as Pierre Delecto after he'd stabbed Trump and his base in the back like they wanted. Those good friends.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (tfFZz)

150 >>Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom
I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Him and Earl Schieb will paint ANY Penis for $64.

Only, Joe uses saliva.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (4L8Yt)

151 'no good will come to a family named after a Chrysler.' --- Maria Ouspenskaya in that werewolf movie.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (wXMeL)

152
Mexico in 2019 is as bad or worse than Italy post 1945 to about 20 years ago.

Run by the Latino equivalent of Bela Oxmyx and Jo-Jo Kracko.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (zBaqJ)

153 No Blood for Dysentery! And Dengue, Typhus, Measles, Mumps, Rubella, Syphillis, PPNG, Squalor, Crime..

But enough about San Francisco

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (ykYG2)

154 Mistaken identity? I guess. It's easy to mistake a white family of 8 in an RV with American license plates, with Mexican drug runners.

Oopsie.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (FiUMj)

155 Hmm. LeBaron Order- not a nice Morman family group as presented in the wiki

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (9g3um)

156 If only someone could bring a successful Winter Olympics to Mexico...

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (4L8Yt)

157 A Clancy novel.
Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM (xQJTG)

The end of Rainbow Six, besides being a very happy ending, has always stuck with me because, yes, yes, these are just books. But Clancy was pretty plugged in and, well, just how many things have been taken care of because doing anything publicly would cause too many people too many problems.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (mf5HN)

158 . CBS Radio is reporting it pretty straight. Their take: case of mistaken identity.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (wXMeL)

You will find the common thread in the reporting of these stories (ones that go against "the narrative") is to minimize any righteous anger by brazenly lying for the first 72 hours - longer if necessary.

Who gets angry over "mistaken identity"? It's an incident that was born in the passive voice. Oh well.

Remember how they wanted to get rid of the word "terrorist attack"? Same thing. Minimize the anger from Joe and Jane American.

When the story is old and everyone has "moved on", they let the truth out in a little squeak when the shock is gone and it will no longer sting a normal person's conscience. It's fucking revolting but hey that's the Commie Left for you.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (IpMhW)

159 What you see in Mexico is what can happen to a state with no 2nd Amendment.
...
Posted by: Don Quixote at November 05, 2019 03:08 PM (NgKpN)
=======

^ This right here. ^

I'm not much of a 'gun guy', but this was the reason the 2A exists. (And there is a political party supported by Cruise Ship cucks who want to do away with it!)

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (xptlg)

160 109 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

If he is such an authoritarian why aren't you digging a sanitary trench in the tundra at Trump Camp Kiska?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (hLRSq)

161 The violence isn't senseless. It's perfectly understandable"

Most violence is. Our betters can't understand that.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:14 PM

This.
Guys like Mittens cannot think in terms of the bad guys. This attack was planned by someone for a specific reason. Whether a case of mistaken identity or not is irrelevant.

What is lost is every year over two hundred American citizens are kidnapped and forced back into Mexico. We never hear about it because its mostly drug related and no one gives a shit. But it happens. And the numbers may be higher as my data on this is old.

Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (axyOa)

162 How terrible!

Now I suppose there will calls to send our brave troops off to guard some desolate border region far from home.

Oh wait....

Posted by: Just Lily at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (VB7Gd)

163
bonus, we can take their oil and demand busty mexican weather girls as tribute

Okay, I was kinda-sorta kidding, but with that edit, where do I sign up?

Posted by: Lance McCormick at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (l8gTz)

164 Run by the Latino equivalent of Bela Oxmyx and Jo-Jo Kracko.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (zBaqJ)

That's an insult to Oxmyx and Krako.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (ZGrMX)

165 Build it about 50 miles inside Mexico.
Posted by: Diogenes at November 05, 2019 03:09 PM (axyOa)

----

Turkey gets a 20 km security zone in Syria. Should we claim one in Mexico?

When will we do it?

Ten years? Eight?

Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (+0uDE)

166
Oooh, TJM got elevated to the update!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (pNxlR)

167 160
If he is such an authoritarian why aren't you digging a sanitary trench in the tundra at Trump Camp Kiska?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (hLRSq)

Kiska. That's where Jews discovered kishkes.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (zBaqJ)

168 This was an act of love.

Posted by: Yeb! at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (88+cf)

169 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual

authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the

Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

No Joe, you're not a conservative, you're a mewling quim Progressive with Alpo for brains.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy does whatever his television tells him at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (HaL55)

170 A Drug Cartel Just Defeated the Mexican Military in Battle (The Federalist)

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (rP4OC)

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/383872.php#383872

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (wYseH)

171 Donald Trump's actual authoritarianism

==

such as?

These people think just putting random words together counts as a persuasive thought.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (FEQY4)

172 >>109 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, ...

Bwahahahaha. Hey Joe, those dicks aren't going to suck themselves.

Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (2SB+z)

173 sorry, - 'Mormon'

Posted by: FrodoB,
hobbits don't wear socks at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (9g3um)

174 147 114 Mittens you fuckstain...the Mexican govt and the Cartels are one and the same.
-----------------
Bingo. And they both are close friends of the Democrat Party.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:17 PM (yRAFu)

The Republican Party too, I'll wager.

I'm old enough to remember when it was only the Lyndon LaRouche crazies who said that prominent politicians were involved in the drug trade. Good times.

Posted by: rickl at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (yQlY7)

175 Just to be clear, you wanna see this thing through, I'm gonna have to get...dirty.

Posted by: Matt Graver at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (WrMOC)

176 A Clancy novel?

Some things are best done in the dark. If Mexico will not accept overt US assistance. Time to be sneaky and eradicate the problem.

Wonder if the Mexican cartels are really into giant 4x4 monster trucks?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (jA4b7)

177 how was the LeBaron clan supporting itself in that lawless shithole?
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM

Making Lebaron's.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (U7cQ/)

178 Lets drop in a few battalions into Sonora and claim there is a red line there. We know Dems will fall for that. Red Lines are sexy.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (yRAFu)

179 -
--
When the story is old and everyone has "moved on",
they let the truth out in a little squeak when the shock is gone and it
will no longer sting a normal person's conscience. It's fucking
revolting but hey that's the Commie Left for you.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM

------------------

Yep, they use that little trick regularly.

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (pMGkg)

180 130 I'm a conservative, but
... "I really love watching Paolo go to Pound Town on my wife"
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM (ykYG2)

Wait, are you saying Paolo is a Mexican? Somebody check for the green card.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (vVOK2)

181 This sounds like a job for Mac Bolan

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (4L8Yt)

182 177 how was the LeBaron clan supporting itself in that lawless shithole?
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:15 PM

Making Lebaron's.
Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (U7cQ/)

Re-upholstering them.

Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (2SB+z)

183
Wait, is that Cartel or Carvel? Now, I'm hungry for Fudgy El Ballena...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (zBaqJ)

184 77:
The left is actually blaming the wall for pissing off the cartels leading to this kind of violence.
Posted by: Sponge

The Cartels were turning there lives around and going to school before Trump.

Posted by: Puddleglum at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (gL/cc)

185 It's true these folks chose to live in Mexico to avoid American laws against polygamy. All the adults are Americans and most of the family members hold dual citizenship.

But living in Mexico, even close to the border, exposed these families to enormous risks. Today those risks came home to them in a terrible manner.

Even if the United States responds with violence, these people will continue to live with the risk of more violent attacks on their families, unless they decide to move home. Of course, of they do move home, they'll have to abide by the law.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (LISuA)

186 Reading the replies to Pierre's tweets is desk head
banging bad. It's all "Trump is to blame for this" and snarking about
the wall.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:16 PM (FiUMj)

Well I'm guessing 90% or more of Rmoney's twitter feed is populated by leftists and NeverTrumpers (BIRM) so why should we expect anything different?

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (77WPm)

187 But Mitt sounds so presidential and shit.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (v0R5T)

188 Killing Americans should bear a consequence paid in sangre.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (8dPFq)

189 That battle between the mexican military and the cartel is scary AF. Hopefully, with an adult in charge, someone can at least protect us from these people.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (FEQY4)

190 Wonder if the Mexican cartels are really into giant 4x4 monster trucks?
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:20 PM (jA4b7)

Is that a Romancing the Stone reference?

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (ycWCI)

191 Anna: Looking at her wiki, can't say I've heard much of her work, outside of Yomi in Azumanga Daioh.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (oZ6kz)

192 "I'm a conservative" has become the biggest tell in politics.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (IpMhW)

193 Time to play Cowboys and Mexicans..."

San Jacinto is about an hour thataway.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (6qErC)

194 If only we had elected Yeb things would have been better.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (yRAFu)

195 33 This story is just too horrible. I often wonder at men (and women) capable of killing innocents, especially children.
Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (a0IVu)

These are not men or women, They are not even human. They are animals, monsters. As such they are not bound by the rules of human decency, morality, or conscience. They do not believe in God or Hell, good or evil, right or wrong. They believe only in power. They see others as one of two groups. . Those who are strong enough to take and hold power, and those who are weak. They see the ones with power having money, women, cars, etc.
They want that also. And they will take it by any means necessary.

Law of the jungle. . If you ain't the alpha you're getting ass fucked daily.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (myjNJ)

196 A friend of mine from back in the day married a Mexican woman. I remember talking to her once about Vincente Fox. I asker her why he was so popular and why everyone was so excited about him. She kind of rolled her eyes and said something like "because some people still believe the govt isn't run by the cartels".

This was 20 years ago.

Mittens is one of these dullards.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (FiUMj)

197 167 160
If he is such an authoritarian why aren't you digging a sanitary trench in the tundra at Trump Camp Kiska?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (hLRSq)

Kiska. That's where Jews discovered kishkes.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:19 PM (zBaqJ)

Please stop sending that crap up here. It's making the Polar Bears puke.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (vVOK2)

198 Will Seattle be offering sanctuary to cartel members?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (Uu+Jp)

199 A NH couple was just murdered down in Corpus Christi, TX, and their truck and RV were last seen being driven across the border into Mexico. The violence is getting worse and it's not going away. It's spreading.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (rP4OC)

200 Joe Walsh is dead to me

Not that Id ever heard of him

Posted by: Regular Wine Mom at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (6/uwW)

201 When is Sgt Delecto putting on his battle vest and heading down there to rescue his fellow Mormons?

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (Pzzpr)

202
Wouldn't it be funny if we got some of their weapons and traced them back to Holder and Obama?

Ha ha ha. Laugh riot.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (zBaqJ)

203 Ordinarily, I would point out that due to unfortunate history, intervening in a destabilized nation would just polarize all parties against us and it would turn into a massive clusterfuck.
In this case, however, massive intervention is eminently justified. Though I'll admit the endgame is an uncomfortable question.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (AM1GF)

204 Let's get rid of those faggy berets and start wearing coon skin caps with a tail. Lets go full Road Warrior.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (yRAFu)

205 You warmongers want to go into Mexico, where American lives are at stake, but you want to abandon Syria, where no American lives are at stake?

I don't understand you people at all.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (FJYfm)

206 One of Romney's Mexican cousin's is named Chrysler LeBaron.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (Kpl3J)

207 202
Wouldn't it be funny if we got some of their weapons and traced them back to Holder and Obama?

Ha ha ha. Laugh riot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (zBaqJ)

========

You have such a bubbly sense of humor.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (q80AH)

208 The left is actually blaming the wall for pissing off the cartels leading to this kind of violence.
Posted by: Sponge

====

well, yeah. that's their argument for everything. our evil racist response to 9-11 is what led to 9-11 because of what the terrorists assumed we would do if they slaughtered thousands. And then our response to 9-11 created more terrorists because of course it did. And then the wall caused more cartels because of course it did.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (FEQY4)

209 Law of the jungle. . If you ain't the alpha you're getting ass fucked daily.
Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (myjNJ)

I can confirm.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (Zz0t1)

210 I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't another fabricated distraction by the left in this country.

Democrats, Russia, Ukraine and the mexican cartels...dogs and their fleas

Posted by: overit at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (sI15f)

211 146 102 43. CBS Radio is reporting it pretty straight. Their take: case of mistaken identity.
Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (wXMeL)
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Whoops!
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019

Whoopsie!

Posted by: Mexican Cartel Pitch Guy at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (IfpGX)

212 Guys like Mittens cannot think in terms of the bad guys. This attack was planned by someone for a specific reason. Whether a case of mistaken identity or not is irrelevant.

Posted by: Diogenes

There was no way it was an accident.

The victims were all part of the LeBaron family and lived in La Mora,

A decade ago, two members of the LeBaron family who were known anti-crime activists were shot and killed by a cartel.

And EDKH.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (NJ+n1)

213 Clancy novel reference.

Clear and Present Danger

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (jA4b7)

214 200 Joe Walsh is dead to me

Not that Id ever heard of him
Posted by: Regular Wine Mom at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (6/uwW)

I spent 20 seconds looking through his twitter feed, and Of Course, Gabe Malor popped up in it.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (Kpl3J)

215 This is what the open borders crowd is bringing to America. I just watched a video of these Mexican thugs literally flaying a man alive. Most disgusting thing I've ever seen. And of course the whole Mexican political establishment is in the pocket of these drug dealers. The anti-wall, anti-border control traitors are working hand-in-hand with a hostile, racist foriegn government and its drug lord partners to chemically mass murder Americans. Think about that next time you hear some bullshit about the Ukraine.

Posted by: jb at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (jxKD5)

216 Upthread, someone asked about Romney's connections to the Mormon communities in Mexico. One article I read says he has approximately 70 relatives still living there, and one of his cousins was kidnapped two years ago by a cartel and held for ransom. During that time, the 70 year old rancher was kept tied up in a cave.

I believe he still lives in Mexico.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (LISuA)

217 >>Killing Americans should bear a consequence paid in sangre.

Law Abiding Americans, sure.

But rogue enclaves of Polygamists? I'm not feeling it.

By all means, destroy the Cartels. But don't justify it with this.

This is the result of your many bad choices that resulted in you leaving your protections behind.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (4L8Yt)

218 Wouldn't it be funny if we got some of their weapons and traced them back to Holder and Obama?

Ha ha ha. Laugh riot.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (zBaqJ)

Can we try them as accessories?

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (Zz0t1)

219 214 I spent 20 seconds looking through his twitter feed, and Of Course, Gabe Malor popped up in it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (Kpl3J)

==========

Ace approved lawyer, Gabe Malor?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (q80AH)

220 Well I'm guessing 90% or more of Rmoney's twitter feed is populated by leftists and NeverTrumpers (BIRM) so why should we expect anything different?
Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:21 PM (77WPm)

I think it's more likely the Soros-paid Correct The Record folks working hand in hand with Twitter (and Facebook, and Google) to make sure that as many people as possible get exposed to their perverted lies.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (IpMhW)

221 I think the solution to this is to put up "No Firearms" signs in Mexico, & plenty of "Gun Free Zone" signs, showing a diagonal red line over a handgun, like you see in our libraries & fast food emporia.

Posted by: mnw at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (Cssks)

222 213 Clancy novel reference.

Clear and Present Danger
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (jA4b7)

Ah, my fault. Easy to confuse the two.

*shifty eyes*

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (ycWCI)

223 I'm not much of a 'gun guy', but this was the reason the 2A exists. (And there is a political party supported by Cruise Ship cucks who want to do away with it!)
Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (xptlg)

Canoe accident?

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (vVOK2)

224 MENDOZA!!!!!!!

Posted by: McBain at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (xQJTG)

225 intervening in a destabilized nation would just polarize all parties against us and it would turn into a massive clusterfuck."

Especially since we're supposedly above violence and such

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (6qErC)

226
Mexico in 2019 is as bad or worse than Italy post 1945 to about 20 years ago.

Run by the Latino equivalent of Bela Oxmyx and Jo-Jo Kracko.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton

Don't leave your cell phone there!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (aKsyK)

227 I wonder why that guy Walsh doesn't understand that socialism is the ultimate inroad to tyranny.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (r+sAi)

228 213 Clancy novel reference.

Clear and Present Danger

Reciprocity

Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (88xKn)

229 One of Romney's Mexican cousin's is named Chrysler LeBaron.
Posted by: Tom Servo

Another cousin is Rich Corinthian.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (NJ+n1)

230 Our special ops dog is on the way.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (yRAFu)

231 Joe Walsh is dead to me

Posted by: Regular Wine Mom at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (6/uwW)

Yeah...it's definitely an overplayed song....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXWvKDSwvls

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (wYseH)

232 Is that a Romancing the Stone reference?
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Clancy*s clear and present danger

Posted by: Howard Johnson at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (DA/Vo)

233 The possibility exists of another Mormon sext doing this. The further you get from SLC the crazier they get

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (8Hw9I)

234 227 I wonder why that guy Walsh doesn't understand that socialism is the ultimate inroad to tyranny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (r+sAi)

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Because he's severely conservative?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (q80AH)

235 One of Romney's Mexican cousin's is named Chrysler LeBaron.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (Kpl3J)

His clothes are made of the finest Corinthian Leather!

Posted by: Roland THTG at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (88+cf)

236 The only way to square this is to take out a couple of dozen Walmarts.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (yRAFu)

237 233 The possibility exists of another Mormon sext doing this. The further you get from SLC the crazier they get
Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 03:26 PM (8Hw9I)

mormon's are okay with sexting?

Posted by: overit at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (sI15f)

238 227 I wonder why that guy Walsh doesn't understand that socialism is the ultimate inroad to tyranny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (r+sAi)

Me either. The other Joe Walsh can blame drugs at least.

Posted by: Roy at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (2SB+z)

239 I remember talking to her once about Vincente Fox. I asker her why he was so popular and why everyone was so excited about him. She kind of rolled her eyes and said something like "because some people still believe the govt isn't run by the cartels".

This was 20 years ago.

Mittens is one of these dullards.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (FiUMj)

I remember talking to people who thought Vicente Fox was going to be the Real Deal. They even convinced me, for a while. What did he do? Absolutely Nothing, except take more payoffs from the Cartels, just like everybody else.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (Kpl3J)

240 See what happens to countries that play soccer?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (yRAFu)

241 What we need mow is calm and not cowboy style action that gets more people killed. We need a Mitt Romney type to take the lead with calm, cool, tweeting that gets the conversation started, followed by more conversations, then possibly debating and finally a firmly worded resolution with facts and statements.

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (4e+hS)

242 233 The possibility exists of another Mormon sext doing this. The further you get from SLC the crazier they get

-=====

maybe if these jesus botherers of all stripes just stopped with the south american bullshit, and the somlian bullshit, we'd all be better off.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (FEQY4)

243 Disney Cruises offered excursions to Pedo Island:

"Be whisked away aboard the captain's RIB power boat to a pair of sun-soaked snorkeling sites -- and prepare for an adventure like no other. Journey to picturesque Turtle Cove, Buck Island and immerse yourself in an underwater wonderland, where you're invited to swim and snorkel amidst a school of sea turtles for approximately one hour. Afterward, make your way to your second snorkel stop -- Little St James Island -- where curious fish dart back and forth in the clear blue water, and colorful coral formations nestle next to amazing underwater formations. Afterward, enjoy a beverage and snack before making your way back to St Thomas Harbor."

https://www.magicalkingdoms.com/cruise/ports/stthomasexcur.html

(Scroll down for the "Captain Nautica Expedition.")

Posted by: IrishEi at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (sGotD)

244 So Romney and the left are responding to this act of war with "thoughts and prayers". Hmm thought they were pretty clear that was just ignoring the problem...right?

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (v/o5R)

245 What we need NOW is calm and not cowboy style action that gets more
people killed. We need a Mitt Romney type to take the lead with calm,
cool, tweeting that gets the conversation started, followed by more
conversations, then possibly debating and finally a firmly worded
resolution with facts and statements.

Posted by: Pierre Delecto at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (4e+hS)

246 I used to go to Mexico twice a year. The Mexican military doesn't stand a chance. We used to give them Snickers bars and buttwipes.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM (v0R5T)

247 So, we need to remove Americans' rights to their guns because Mexican drug cartels killed people in Mexico with guns, right?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM (q80AH)

248 I saw a video of the Sinola Cartel assault on the city where the Mexican Army actually detained to of El Chapo's sons.

It showed eight armored wheeled vehicles moving down a road flanked by 30 dismounted gunmen. The first vehicles were painted in civilian colors, and the last five were painted in camouflage schemes.

I think if this was the US Army or Marines, it would be called a platoon.

Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM (+0uDE)

249 What if we allow polygamy in America to get our Mormons back? It's not like gay marriage makes more sense.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM (Fvogs)

250 Broseidon, you have lived a really sheltered life then...

Nein to Girls und Panzer? Akira Yamamoto in Space Battleship Yamato 2199? Muv Luv Alternative: Total Eclipse? Olivia in Tears to Tiara or Sei in Burst Angel?

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM (jA4b7)

251 Let's try bounties. The seem to work.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (yRAFu)

252 >>One of Romney's Mexican cousin's is named Chrysler LeBaron.

It's a shame he's couped up in Mexico.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (4L8Yt)

253 Didn't we already decide that it was best for Joe Walsh to stick to reunion tours and rehab.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (u6xw0)

254 199 A NH couple was just murdered down in Corpus Christi, TX, and their truck and RV were last seen being driven across the border into Mexico. The violence is getting worse and it's not going away. It's spreading.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (rP4OC)

It's going to come across the border, and containment might not work.

The one place we may actually need to do nation building is right in our own back yard.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (J+mig)

255 I wonder why that guy Walsh doesn't understand that socialism is the ultimate inroad to tyranny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (r+sAi)
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Why doesn't he understand what "authoritarian" is?

Would that be: you HAVE to BELIEVE 17 AGENCIES, TRAITOR!

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (YOhRS)

256 hat we need mow is calm and not cowboy style action that gets more people killed. We need a Mitt Romney type to take the lead with calm, cool, tweeting that gets the conversation started, followed by more conversations, then possibly debating and finally a firmly worded resolution with facts and statements.
Posted by: Pierre Delecto

===

we need a blue ribbon panel to establish a guideline for future discussions so as to be inclusive and to ensure that any response to cartel violence is respectful to all cartel members of color and all sexual persuasions, including the most vulnerable trans-cartel members. Also, we need to establish common outcome standards for punishment so that no one nationality gets punished for cartel violence.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (FEQY4)

257 Romney and the left are responding to this act of war with "thoughts and prayers". Hmm thought they were pretty clear that was just ignoring the problem...right?
Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (v/o5R)

I thought the left hated thinking and praying.

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (Uu+Jp)

258 Law Abiding Americans, sure.

But rogue enclaves of Polygamists? I'm not feeling it.

By all means, destroy the Cartels. But don't justify it with this.

This is the result of your many bad choices that resulted in you leaving your protections behind.
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (4L8Yt)

Bullshit. No litmus tests. Americans are American, even if they are shitstains like Romney relatives.

The cartels know they are American. This is as much a statement as a declaration of war. They truly think they are invincible.

Time to vince them, but good.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (vVOK2)

259 If only Mexico had some common sense gun control......

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (FiUMj)

260 IF we did act directly, there is a chance we will learn which American politicians are in the pay of the Cartels, so that's a plus.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (xQJTG)

261 216 Upthread, someone asked about Romney's connections to the Mormon communities in Mexico. One article I read says he has approximately 70 relatives still living there, and one of his cousins was kidnapped two years ago by a cartel and held for ransom. During that time, the 70 year old rancher was kept tied up in a cave.

I believe he still lives in Mexico.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at November 05, 2019 03:24 PM (LISuA)

I think Romney's father, George, was born in one of those Mexican Mormon colonies.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (Kpl3J)

262 Mistaken identity? Oh sure. I mean who HASN'T shot a bunch of running children in the back because they thought the kids were gang members?

Happens all the time.

Posted by: Just Lily at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (VB7Gd)

263 Dayumm Linn!!

You are crushing it!

Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (Y4EXg)

264 -
--

I used to go to Mexico twice a year. The Mexican military doesn't stand a
chance. We used to give them Snickers bars and buttwipes.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM

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Did they know which was for what?

(I denounce myself)

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (pMGkg)

265 I wonder why that guy Walsh doesn't understand that socialism is the ultimate inroad to tyranny.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:25 PM (r+sAi)
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Why doesn't he understand what "authoritarian" is?

Would that be: you HAVE to BELIEVE 17 AGENCIES, TRAITOR!
Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (YOhRS)

Let's dispense with the idea that Joe Walsh doesn't know what he's doing. Joe Walsh knows *exactly* what he's doing.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (KUaJL)

266 I'm confused. I was reliably informed our neighbors to the south were uniformly law-abiding, in fact much more so than Americans.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (hGXZE)

267 >>251
Let's try bounties. The seem to work.

Finger and ear collections for the win.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (Pzzpr)

268 I wonder why the neocons aren't jonesin' for war at our borders like they are with the Syrian-Turkish border?

Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (qAR6u)

269 Anna, never have been a mech show fan. I only started watching a lot of anime again 3 years ago, and she's been in nothing I've watched released from 2016 to now.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (oZ6kz)

270 253 Didn't we already decide that it was best for Joe Walsh to stick to reunion tours and rehab.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (u6xw0)

Live is good to him, I've heard.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (vVOK2)

271 Nein to Girls und Panzer?

Pornhub:

Willie Pantsher? Yes he will. Volume 1, Episode 3.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (NJ+n1)

272 Anna, never have been a mech show fan. I only started watching a lot of anime again 3 years ago, and she's been in nothing I've watched released from 2016 to now.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (oZ6kz)

You haven't seen Macross?!

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (Fvogs)

273 Joe Walsh, guitarist: The REAL Joe Walsh.

Joe Walsh, Republican The FAKE Jow Walsh.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (YOhRS)

274 BUILD THE FUCKING WALL

Posted by: Max Power at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (q177U)

275 Bullshit. No litmus tests. Americans are American, even if they are shitstains like Romney relatives.

The cartels know they are American. This is as much a statement as a declaration of war. They truly think they are invincible.

Time to vince them, but good.
Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (vVOK2)

__

This is like leftist idiots who go hiking in Afghanistan to explore the wonderful culture it has to offer. Then when they get kidnapped, their family begs the govt to help.

Sorry. But when you jump into a fire, don't come running to me asking to put out the fire.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (FiUMj)

276 206 One of Romney's Mexican cousin's is named Chrysler LeBaron.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (Kpl3J)

Nephew of Nash Rambler.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet! at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (hLRSq)

277 The current Mex preznit said, we tried war and it didn't work. No you didn't. Not one you were trying to win. I have zero doubt he's getting some nice checks from the cartels. BTW. Anyone else watch Queen of the South?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (U7cQ/)

278 254 199 A NH couple was just murdered down in Corpus Christi, TX, and their truck and RV were last seen being driven across the border into Mexico. The violence is getting worse and it's not going away. It's spreading.

====

on the local sportsball news station in DC today, they were talking in shocked tones about members of the nationals possibly being republican and worse, the idea that some people may believe that trump is not that bad.

Well, some guy called in and said "well, there was an acid attack in Oregon(?) and that shows we're not safe in trump's america"

so...how can you argue with that? We have muslim violence, cartel violence, black lives matter cop assassins, but the left will find the hate crime needle in the haystack.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (FEQY4)

279 Of course...big enough stir over this and some Fast and Furious Guns recovered in the process.

Mr Eric Holder might have to answer some questions?

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (4L8Yt)

280 America has to go to war with Mexico every once in a while. If only as a proving ground for our great generals.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (sX1BW)

281 By all means, destroy the Cartels. But don't justify it with this.

This is the result of your many bad choices that resulted in you leaving your protections behind.

Posted by: garrett

Generally I would agree. Sadly this is something that is just spreading, and frankly, giving them the idea that they can slaughter Americans without consequences is like teaching sharks to equate humans with food--an incredibly bad idea that will get lots of people killed.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (AM1GF)

282 Romney and the left are responding to this act of war with "thoughts and prayers".

Should be responding with a JDAM on cartel HQ.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (hGXZE)

283 154 Mistaken identity? I guess. It's easy to mistake a white family of 8 in an RV with American license plates, with Mexican drug runners.

Oopsie.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:18 PM (FiUMj)

"and Jeffrey Epstein committed suicide while in jail".....

"and there is no evidence that Hunter Biden was paid by a Ukraine energy company, or that Joe Biden influenced a foreign government to influence an investigation on the company that was paying Hunter millions of dollars"....

all examples of CBS "playing it down the middle".

CBS is less a joke than NBC, but still is a tool of the Deep State.

- other CBS news reports "down the middle".

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (sy5kK)

284 Tears to Tiara is a retelling of the Arthurian legend. Olivia is a Roman who joins forces with the Britons to fight against the Roman Empire.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (jA4b7)

285 It's going to come across the border, and containment might not work.

The one place we may actually need to do nation building is right in our own back yard.
Posted by: Cato

Containment? Bounties.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:33 PM (NJ+n1)

286 Greetings, J.J. ... I posted a response [410] to your question [357] about de-galvanizing steel cans in this morning's thread. Hope it helps.

Posted by: Kathy at November 05, 2019 03:33 PM (q7uEm)

287 Joe can't complain but sometimes he still does.

Posted by: ... at November 05, 2019 03:33 PM (IpMhW)

288 Which Macross? Frontier, no, I haven't seen that.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:33 PM (oZ6kz)

289 This is like leftist idiots who go hiking in Afghanistan to explore the wonderful culture it has to offer. Then when they get kidnapped, their family begs the govt to help.

Sorry. But when you jump into a fire, don't come running to me asking to put out the fire.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (FiUMj)

Nope. This has been building for a while. It is an attack on the US. No other reason. And it didn't happen by chance.

The provocation is clear.

Posted by: tcn in AK at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (vVOK2)

290 Us military v Mexican drug cartels?

So crazy it just might work.
Posted by: eleven at November 05, 2019 03:06 PM (tH5fk)

Here's how you do it: make the President of Mexico an offer he cannot refuse. "Buddy, you are going to set up a Mexican Foreign Legion, comprised entirely of gringos and a few Brits or Euros with combat experience in the sandbox. This Legion will nominally be under your personal control, but you will have exactly zero day-to-day input into its command, other than providing intelligence when requested. Real operational control will be handled, unofficially, of course, by the U.S. Army, who may provide "volunteers" to the Legion. You can accept this offer, or refuse it. But if you refuse, we will just invade anyway."

Since the "Mexican Foreign Legion" would, officially be a creature of the Mexican Government, I don't think the Geneva Conventions would come into play, and rules of engagement could be, uh, "relaxed".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (/sgva)

291 Joe Walsh has a bad case of wahs-wahs.

Posted by: dantesed at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (88xKn)

292 What we REALLY should do is gin up the Mexican equivalent of "Los Pepes," the vigilantes in Colombia who took down Pablo Escobar by killing everyone and anyone who had any connection with him whatsoever. It was brutal, but desperate times - and God knows, Colombia was in desperate times - call for desperate measures.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (hGXZE)

293 95 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual
authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the
Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:12 PM (77WPm)

An admission that GOPe, Inc. wants you DEAD just as much as the Demoncrats do.

Posted by: Allie at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (sm6Pk)

294 Dayumm Linn!!

You are crushing it!
Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (Y4EXg)
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You're late to the party, TonyPete! Too busy causing mischief and mayhem to post earlier?

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (ECrgQ)

295 One of Romney's Mexican cousin's is named Chrysler LeBaron.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:23 PM (Kpl3J)
.........

Does he have a loudspeaker on his roof, no muffler, and a bobblehead Virgin Mary on the dash?

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (v0R5T)

296 Tears to Tiara is a retelling of the Arthurian legend. Olivia is a Roman who joins forces with the Britons to fight against the Roman Empire.
Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (jA4b7)

We gotta keep a running list of your recommendations....

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:34 PM (Fvogs)

297

Mr Eric Holder might have to answer some questions?
Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (4L8Yt)

with jokes like that, are you appearing at the Missoula comedy club this Saturday night?

because that's a good one.

Posted by: LeftCoast Dawg at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (sy5kK)

298
Law Abiding Americans, sure.

But rogue enclaves of Polygamists? I'm not feeling it.

By all means, destroy the Cartels. But don't justify it with this.

This is the result of your many bad choices that resulted in you leaving your protections behind.

That they were rogue shouldn't matter. It certainly didn't matter to the monsters that butchered them. When you kill Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations used to do. Examples need to be made.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (8dPFq)

299 I wonder why the neocons aren't jonesin' for war at our borders like they are with the Syrian-Turkish border?
Posted by: kbdabear at November 05, 2019 03:31 PM (qAR6u)

Hell, Mexico even has oil.

Posted by: Oldcat at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (FTPn0)

300 By all means, destroy the Cartels. But don't justify it with this.

This is the result of your many bad choices that resulted in you leaving your protections behind.

Posted by: garrett

Generally I would agree. Sadly this is something that is just spreading, and frankly, giving them the idea that they can slaughter Americans without consequences is like teaching sharks to equate humans with food--an incredibly bad idea that will get lots of people killed.

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Yes, they left and should have stayed.

But at some point, being American has to mean something. Having the best military has to mean something.

We should rightly demand that as citizens we will not be slaughtered in this world - because to do so will mean certain death.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (sX1BW)

301 BTW. Anyone else watch Queen of the South?
Posted by: Minnfidel

Wife likes it. I wish they'd quit flashing words on the screen. Interrupts the bewbs.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (NJ+n1)

302 200 Joe Walsh is dead to me

Not that Id ever heard of him
Posted by: Regular Wine Mom at November 05, 2019 03:22 PM (6/uwW)

Oh Come On! Everyone has heard "Rocky Mountain Way" on the radio.

What? That's a different Joe?

Never Mind.

Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (+0uDE)

303 The possibility exists of another Mormon sext doing this. The further you get from SLC the crazier they get

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Although small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, it annoys me that they refer to the victims as Mormons. They are a splinter group which has definitely gone to the dark side. I'm not saying that they deserved it, they didn't, but they are not the kind of Mormons who live down the street and own the convenience store on the corner.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (+y/Ru)

304 30 years ago or so the mexican ruling clique accidentally allowed someone that wasnt one of their own inner circle to run for president.

They had a screw up with their primary candidate dealing with some corruption scandal while the other contenders were barred for various procedural reasons.

Anyway when the PRI realized they had a problem on their hand they assassinated Colosio. No serious investigation naturally. This cleared the way for Zedillo and the rest is history...

Posted by: 18-1 at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (v/o5R)

305 >>The provocation is clear.

This Aggression will not stand.

Posted by: garrett at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (4L8Yt)

306 Well, some guy called in and said "well, there was an acid attack in Oregon(?) and that shows we're not safe in trump's america"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (FEQY4)
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We knew this before. With people throwing concrete-laced milkshakes at reporters in Trump's America!

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (YOhRS)

307 Here's a radical idea.....decriminalize the drugs the cartels make money off of importing.

Nah. Crazy talk. Carry on....

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (FiUMj)

308 Let's dispense with the idea that Joe Walsh doesn't know what he's doing. Joe Walsh knows *exactly* what he's doing.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 03:30 PM (KUaJL)

More precisely, he knows exactly who's forking-over his weekly allowance.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (77WPm)

309 286 Greetings, J.J. ... I posted a response [410] to your question [357] about de-galvanizing steel cans in this morning's thread. Hope it helps.
Posted by: Kathy at November 05, 2019 03:33 PM (q7uEm)

Well, they're not galvanized. They're just coated with BPA. But thanks anyway. I'm soaking in acetone and if that won't work, I'll try Drano or muriatic acid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (zBaqJ)

310 You're late to the party, TonyPete! Too busy causing mischief and mayhem to post earlier?
Posted by: Linn Ridge

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I attribute it to a haircut, grocery shopping, and sloth.

Well, sloth really.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (Y4EXg)

311 At the very least we should start droning some of these fuckers. When the corrupt little cunt of a mexicunt president complains. Trump should tell him to GFY you can't even control your own pile of shit country. What are you going to do about it?

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (U7cQ/)

312 What we REALLY should do is gin up the Mexican equivalent of "Los Pepes," the vigilantes in Colombia who took down Pablo Escobar by killing everyone and anyone who had any connection with him whatsoever. It was brutal, but desperate times - and God knows, Colombia was in desperate times - call for desperate measures.

Or the "Dirty War" in Argentine. Always save the regret and recriminations until you win.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (xQJTG)

313 Question: What's the line between a failed state and an openly hostile enemy nation?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (KUaJL)

314 Have you seen the vice documentary about Mexican Mormon militias that use cartel tactics and have smugged arms? They are going to fucking wreck.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (O7MnT)

315 The victims here aren't "American" in any sense of the word that you'd normally understand it. They are a whacked out bunch of polygamists who fled Utah for Mexico after the LDS crowd had to give up polygamy in exchange for statehood.
These groups have enclaves still in the US as well, they make their living by running various scams and criminal conspiracies. "Anti crime activist" in this context would mean "employed by a different cartel." Not to mention the fact that the Mormons have driven their neighbors to murderous violence in every single case they've moved to a new area. Look up the Haun's Mill Massacre, and that was one of many that happened in the US alone.
I'd bet money that this was a targeted killing based on their own criminal behavior and alliance with a rival cartel faction. This sort of thing doesn't just fall from the sky, even in a place like Mexico.

Posted by: Pinochet's Sunglasses at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (n+0Aw)

316 Let's send Hillary to negotiate with the Cartels. And then finish the fucking wall.

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (yRAFu)

317 Here's a radical idea.....decriminalize the drugs the cartels make money off of importing.

Nah. Crazy talk. Carry on....

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Here's a better non-radical idea. Hunt down and destroy these savages. Then make Mexico a military protectorate.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (sX1BW)

318 277 The current Mex preznit said, we tried war and it didn't work. No you didn't. Not one you were trying to win."

Well actually, he did try it. For one day in that city of Culiacan. The Cartel won, the Mexican Army lost, and that's all the fight that they had in them. Even the French in WW2 had more fight in them than that.

the tell is that the Mexican army just turned tail and ran, and never looked back. Some were wondering if it really was the Cartels who did this current set of murders - well of course it was, and you need to understand why. Because they no longer answer to any government, they have absolutely no fear, they are complete Lords and Masters of the territory they control, and they can do any damn thing they want with absolutely no fear of any consequences whatsoever.

This is the kind of thing that power mad men do just to prove that they're in total control.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (Kpl3J)

319 That they were rogue shouldn't matter. It certainly
didn't matter to the monsters that butchered them. When you kill
Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations
used to do. Examples need to be made.

Posted by: WonkishRogue at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (8dPFq)

I say we go Mongolian on them. Find some of their leaders and pour molten gold and silver down their throats. If traditional tactics aren't working, go medieval on their asses and watch them piss themselves over the crazy gringoes.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (rP4OC)

320 It's going to come across the border, and containment might not work.

The one place we may actually need to do nation building is right in our own back yard.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 03:29 PM (J+mig)

It's been coming across the border for some time. Don't forget the rancher who was shot and killed, along with his dog, as he was checking his cattle and fencing along the border on his ATV. Robert Krentz was killed in 2010.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/illegal-immigrant-suspected-in-murder-of-arizona-rancher

Posted by: Jen the original at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (96m0f)

321 Well, they're not galvanized. They're just coated with BPA. But thanks anyway. I'm soaking in acetone and if that won't work, I'll try Drano or muriatic acid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (zBaqJ)

Ketones and Bases and Acids, oh my!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (ycWCI)

322 That they were rogue shouldn't matter. It certainly didn't matter to the monsters that butchered them. When you kill Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations used to do. Examples need to be made.
Posted by: WonkishRogue

Find the village that a cartel member was born in.

Exterminate it. Rinse. Repeat.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (NJ+n1)

323 Here's a radical idea.....decriminalize the drugs the cartels make money off of importing.

No. That's an idiotic idea.

A radical idea is to go full Singapore on drugs. Caught with any weight, you hang. Period. End of story.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (hGXZE)

324 Oh Come On! Everyone has heard "Rocky Mountain Way" on the radio.

Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (+0uDE)
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Funk #49.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (YOhRS)

325 Well, sloth really.
Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:36 PM (Y4EXg)
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Sloths are my spirit animal.

Not otters. Not even by surprise.

Posted by: Linn Ridge at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (ECrgQ)

326 Which Macross? Frontier, no, I haven't seen that.
Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at November 05, 2019 03:33 PM (oZ6kz)

The original. There have been a couple of others that are good. I like Macross Plus too.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (Fvogs)

327 Serious question....given that about 40M of our population population is of Mexican decent, could we realistically go to war with Mexico and not domestic turmoil?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (FiUMj)

328 BTW. Anyone else watch Queen of the South?
Posted by: Minnfidel

Wife likes it. I wish they'd quit flashing words on the screen. Interrupts the bewbs.
Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM

It's pretty good. Wife got me hooked on it. Of course they (netflix) are pulling the whole, oh you want that season? Sure. For 29.00 Pricks.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (U7cQ/)

329 ** and not HAVE domestic turmoil

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (FiUMj)

330 Serious question....given that about 40M of our
population population is of Mexican decent, could we realistically go to
war with Mexico and not domestic turmoil?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (FiUMj)

Anyone who doesn't want to stay here is free to hop on the next plane to Mexico City.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (77WPm)

331 Why would I listen to anything that guy has to say. I mean he can't even find the door.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (U7cQ/)

332 280 America has to go to war with Mexico every once in a while. If only as a proving ground for our great generals.
Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:32 PM (sX1BW)

Mexico isn't a sovereign country anymore, it's own internal documents admit they've lost control of more than 3/4 of their claimed territory. Mexico City doesn't control much outside of Mexico City. It's a city-state playing at being a country.

Let's quit playing pretend.

It's time to go clear out the narco-warlords, prosecute their enablers, then hold new elections. We should give the civil governments the choice of either joining the USA as a territory or going independent. Returning them to the pretend-state that has so utterly failed them would only lead to the same old problems recurring in the future.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (J+mig)

333 312 What we REALLY should do is gin up the Mexican equivalent of "Los Pepes," the vigilantes in Colombia who took down Pablo Escobar by killing everyone and anyone who had any connection with him whatsoever. It was brutal, but desperate times - and God knows, Colombia was in desperate times - call for desperate measures.

Already done, it's called the Jalisco New Generation Cartel, just like Los Pepes were really the Cali Cartel.

Posted by: Pinochet's Sunglasses at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (n+0Aw)

334 307
Here's a radical idea.....decriminalize the drugs the cartels make money off of importing.

Nah. Crazy talk. Carry on....

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (FiUMj)

So they can make money by undercutting the prices of legal "manufacturers".

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (rP4OC)

335 The Nats to the Nats fans is the like US Citizens to the Deep State.

That's for the test later.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (r+sAi)

336 When you kill
Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations
used to do. Examples need to be made.

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This is exactly right. I know the world doesn't work this way ... but it should. I am an American - therefore I should be free to walk wherever I want. Why? Because I am an American. There should be a price for messing with Americans. Especially in the country next to our own.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (sX1BW)

337 Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:28 PM (+0uDE)

That's what Apache helicopters are for. I assume the Mexican army at least has the most basic attack copter.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (tL/BP)

338 My wife does a lot of charity work through her church. Mainly water safety and quality measures in African nations. If she thinks for one fucking minute she is going to Kenya or some other god for saken shit hole to work, we're gonna a have a major issue on our hands.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (u6xw0)

339 Tears to Tiara trailer

https://youtu.be/COKG8HaDKd0

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (jA4b7)

340 Whoever made this reply to the amorphous hermaphroditic blob and Taterbeast Brian Stelter must read AoS:

https://tinyurl.com/y2yauas4

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (AzW6q)

341 321 Ketones and Bases and Acids, oh my!
Posted by: Aetius451AD at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (ycWCI)

I have a sinking feeling I'll have to use the wire wheel which I was trying to avoid.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (zBaqJ)

342 In addition to building a wall, we need to build a giant pyramid-like temple and start sacrificing these fucks to the Sun God.

Let the blood-letting begin!

Posted by: Fritz at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (2Mnv1)

343 Past time to label the Mexican drug cartels as terrorist organizations.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (JUOKG)

344 Fujimori did pretty well cleaning the Sendero Luminoso out of Peru.

It helped that he had a loyal army. Mexico's army ... has been noted above.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (ykYG2)

345 Serious question....given that about 40M of our population population is of Mexican decent, could we realistically go to war with Mexico and not domestic turmoil?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:38 PM (FiUMj)

Yeah, they know we aren't going to steal oil and rape their women. Just to settle things down.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (Fvogs)

346 Sloths are my spirit animal.

Not otters. Not even by surprise.
Posted by: Linn Ridge

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*scribbles note*

Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (Y4EXg)

347 ** and not HAVE domestic turmoil

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You mean we don't have that now?

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (sX1BW)

348 It's pretty good. Wife got me hooked on it. Of course they (netflix) are pulling the whole, oh you want that season? Sure. For 29.00 Pricks.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Wait two or three seasons. It'll be free. Plenty of Telenovas to get hooked on. Narcos is good.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (NJ+n1)

349 Here's a radical idea.....decriminalize the drugs the cartels make money off of importing.

No. That's an idiotic idea.

A radical idea is to go full Singapore on drugs. Caught with any weight, you hang. Period. End of story.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (hGXZE)
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Agree. If anything has been disproven over the years it's that the legalization of drugs will hurt the cartels.

They took over avocados. Maybe we should legalize avocados.

I've always taken those people as historically iltterate, anyway. It's like they don't know that many syndicates in America got a good part of their start in construction, collecting "insurance" or construction, and hurting people who tried to expose their shoddy construction.

I know! We'll legalize shoddy construction!

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (YOhRS)

350 Enforce the Drug Laws in the US. Our drug addicts keep the Cartels in business.
Posted by: rd at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM (+0uDE)

That means a 3-strikes law for the users. Third conviction for possession gets you a bullet in the head. Won't be any dealers, if there aren't any buyers.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (/sgva)

351 Here's a better non-radical idea. Hunt down and destroy these savages. Then make Mexico a military protectorate.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (sX1BW)

I would be sympathetic to that idea, but its much the same set of problems as exist in Venezuela. We were sold a bill of goods in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is not a matter of hunting down a few "bad apples". This situation cannot be "fixed" without several hundred thousand deaths, maybe more than a million, and if we can't face that level of carnage going in we should stay the hell out.

Afghanistan would have turned out much differently if we had gone in realizing that the civilian population was never going to be on our side. Neither will the Mexicans.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (Kpl3J)

352 Delecto: "The U.S. must work with Mexican officials to hold accountable those responsible for this senseless violence."

WTF do you think Trump and the Deplorables have been trying to do, you simp!? And the Deplorables for decades - not years - before that?

Going after the drug traffickers and defending our nation/citizens has only been a priority for, oh, I dunno, a couple generations now?

How about you and your gutless peers write a war declaration to go after these monsters and resolve to FIX OUR EFFIN ILLEGAL ALIEN PROBLEM which has been carrying the human/drug trafficking industry for decades!

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (6eEQ+)

353 This is the kind of thing that power mad men do just to prove that they're in total control.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM

Which is why we should drone some of these fuckers into dust.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (U7cQ/)

354 The chicken is in the pot.
(static)
Cook it.

Posted by: Clark at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (PE7tQ)

355 Let's send Hillary to negotiate with the Cartels. And then finish the fucking wall.

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And not tell her where the gate is.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (+y/Ru)

356 So they can make money by undercutting the prices of legal "manufacturers".
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (rP4OC)

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Sure there'll be some of that. There's black market cigarettes and booze. But compared to the drug cartels, it's virtually non-existent in terms of scope.

Any market will always have a black market component to it. But by keeping hard drugs illegal, cartels will never go away.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (FiUMj)

357 I shall presume Mexicans are as decent as anyone else, and hang their heads over this.

Posted by: Monty James at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (Zqz9o)

358 Saw a documentary that the cartels took over the legitimate avacado and tequila trade because of their profit margins. When they do a hostile takeover its actually hostile.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (r+sAi)

359 I long for the day, which will never come, when we do not go looking for conflict but every nation on Earth fears the murder of even one American by one of their own, lest sure fire rain upon them.

Posted by: Violent retard at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (ldmQR)

360 354 The chicken is in the pot.
(static)
Cook it.
Posted by: Clark at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (PE7tQ)

*Sound of Rickie Lee Jones scribbling notes and climbing into time machine set for 1978...*

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (zBaqJ)

361 I've been telling you guys that Mexicans are natural Republicans. They like guns, when they see a problem they solve it, and they've had about all they can take of the Romney people.

Posted by: Bill Kristol at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (FJYfm)

362 That means a 3-strikes law for the users. Third conviction for possession gets you a bullet in the head. Won't be any dealers, if there aren't any buyers.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (/sgva)

Or, how about 3rd conviction puts you on the other side of the Wall in Nogales, Arizona. You figure it out from there.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (Kpl3J)

363 When you kill

Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations

used to do. Examples need to be made.

---------------

This is exactly right. I know the world doesn't work this way ...
but it should. I am an American - therefore I should be free to walk
wherever I want. Why? Because I am an American. There should be a
price for messing with Americans. Especially in the country next to our
own.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM

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Back in the day, no one in the civilized World messed with a Roman Citizen because they knew if they did and word got back to Rome there would be hell to pay.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (JUOKG)

364
I hope Utahns cleary understand that Pierre Delecto's policy is to import as many of these savages as we possibly can, so that Utahns can be murdered by them at home instead of having to travel thousands of miles for the privilege of being shot, raped and kidnapped by Sparks of the Divine such as these.

And then I hope they're all ashamed of themselves.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (AzW6q)

365 -
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CBS Radio is reporting it pretty straight. Their take: case of mistaken identity.

Posted by: kallisto at November 05, 2019 03:13 PM

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"Their take: case of mistaken identity."

...they stated without evidence.

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (pMGkg)

366 Anyway when the PRI realized they had a problem on their hand they assassinated Colosio. No serious investigation naturally.
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Fuckin' Mexico!

Posted by: Jeffery Epstein at November 05, 2019 03:42 PM (sWM8x)

367 It's not like pre-prohibition, nobody knew anything like a syndicate.

It really isn't. If there is a dishonest buck to be made by being illegal and applying threats of violence, criminal syndicates make it.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (YOhRS)

368 When you kill
Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations
used to do. Examples need to be made.

---------------

This is exactly right. I know the world doesn't work this way ... but it should.
.
Posted by: SH

The world USED to work that way. Before we got all "civilized" and shit.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (NJ+n1)

369 I would be sympathetic to that idea, but its much the same set of problems as exist in Venezuela. We were sold a bill of goods in Iraq and Afghanistan, it is not a matter of hunting down a few "bad apples". This situation cannot be "fixed" without several hundred thousand deaths, maybe more than a million, and if we can't face that level of carnage going in we should stay the hell out.

Afghanistan would have turned out much differently if we had gone in realizing that the civilian population was never going to be on our side. Neither will the Mexicans.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (Kpl3J)

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Yeah. It's asking to overturn hundreds or thousands of years of history overnight. It can't be done. Communism ended in E. Europe 30 years ago. But the communist way of doing things, ie corruption, bribes, etc never went away. And probably won't ever go away.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (FiUMj)

370
Hell toupee? Jim Trafficant...

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (zBaqJ)

371 Just get Romney to give all the cartel members cancer. What good is a super power if you don't use it?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (+y/Ru)

372 My wife does a lot of charity work through her church. Mainly water safety and quality measures in African nations. If she thinks for one fucking minute she is going to Kenya or some other god for saken shit hole to work, we're gonna a have a major issue on our hands.

Posted by: dananjcon

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My parish sends some teens and staff to shit holes for charity work. (I know, we're trying to stop it.) But when they do, we send a professional security team with them.

Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (Y4EXg)

373 Macross Zero,
Super Dimension Fortress Macross,
Macross Plus,
Macross Seven,
Macross Frontier,
Macross Delta

That should be in chronological order. Then there is Macross II: Lovers Again with the VF-2SS SAP.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (jA4b7)

374 Don't know if I'm in favor of "boots on the ground" ... but B-52's napalm carpet bombing the cartels' crop fields and processing facilities would warm the cockles of my heart.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (9V81o)

375 355
Let's send Hillary to negotiate with the Cartels. And then finish the fucking wall.

-

And not tell her where the gate is.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (+y/Ru)

Just put stairs in front of the gate, and PPV it.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (1CjJc)

376 What is the exit strategy? The conditions of victory? No Pershing type expeditions until said conditions are clearly demarcated.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (J3vQe)

377 Agree. If anything has been disproven over the years it's that the legalization of drugs will hurt the cartels.

They took over avocados. Maybe we should legalize avocados.

I've always taken those people as historically iltterate, anyway. It's like they don't know that many syndicates in America got a good part of their start in construction, collecting "insurance" or construction, and hurting people who tried to expose their shoddy construction.

I know! We'll legalize shoddy construction!
Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (YOhRS)

The mob shifted from booze to other illegal activities, because criminals gonna criminal. If criminals wanted to make money legally they would be in legal businesses.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM (wCmLp)

378 I'd be quite fine with clearly identified drone strikes, just to keep them nervous all the time. Not boots on the ground though.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM (r+sAi)

379 303
Although small potatoes in the grand scheme of things, it annoys me
that they refer to the victims as Mormons. They are a splinter group
which has definitely gone to the dark side. I'm not saying that they
deserved it, they didn't, but they are not the kind of Mormons who live
down the street and own the convenience store on the corner.

depends on where you live. (mrs. chronda grew up in the st. george area)

Posted by: Anachronda at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM (sGtp+)

380 374 Don't know if I'm in favor of "boots on the ground" ... but B-52's napalm carpet bombing the cartels' crop fields and processing facilities would warm the cockles of my heart.
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (9V81o)

A-10 strafing runs and Apaches. BUFF can rest.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM (zBaqJ)

381 If you're down in Acuna
And you aren't up to being alone
Don't spend all your money
On just any honey that's grown
Go find the Mexican blackbird
And send all your troubles back home
They all call her her, "Puta"
Because no one really knows her name
She works the cantina
Dancing and a-lovin's her trade
Her mama was Mez'can
And her daddy was the ace of spades

Posted by: ZZ Top at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM (88+cf)

382 Any market will always have a black market component to it. But by keeping hard drugs illegal, cartels will never go away.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (FiUMj)

We made piracy go away.

How? Hanging the fuckers.

If you make an occupation lethal enough, the risk is no longer work the reward.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (J+mig)

383 334 307
Here's a radical idea.....decriminalize the drugs the cartels make money off of importing.

Nah. Crazy talk. Carry on....

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:35 PM (FiUMj)

So they can make money by undercutting the prices of legal "manufacturers".
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:39 PM (rP4OC)

We can make major inroads on pot dealers by legalizing it and get lots of tax money too! People will definitely pay more at our government regulated stores for shittier weed than the guy selling it out of his house!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (8bFEc)

384
I guess I should watch the Wild Bunch tonight.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (zBaqJ)

385 Macross Zero,
Super Dimension Fortress Macross,
Macross Plus,
Macross Seven,
Macross Frontier,
Macross Delta

That should be in chronological order. Then there is Macross II: Lovers Again with the VF-2SS SAP.

Posted by: Anna Puma at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (jA4b7)

Oh Macross Zero, forgot about that one. That's a good one too. Probably because F�cker is in it.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (Fvogs)

386 What is the exit strategy?

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Why do we need to exit?

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (sX1BW)

387 358
Saw a documentary that the cartels took over the legitimate avacado and
tequila trade because of their profit margins. When they do a hostile
takeover its actually hostile.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (r+sAi)

Sounds like Ukraine.

Posted by: flounder, rebel, vulgarian, deplorable, winner at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (1CjJc)

388 384
I guess I should watch the Wild Bunch tonight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (zBaqJ)

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Aliens.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (q80AH)

389 RE: The Allahpundit sidebar; lots and lots of leftist NTers in that feed, including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."

It's so sad what happened to some of the regulars here.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (AFSld)

390 My wife does a lot of charity work through her church. Mainly water safety and quality measures in African nations. If she thinks for one fucking minute she is going to Kenya or some other god for saken shit hole to work, we're gonna a have a major issue on our hands.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM

I used to go to Juarez to help work on an orphanage. Our last trip was pretty hairy and we said no mas. The cartels had an unwritten rule that we and the orphanage was to be left alone. A new cartel came in and started warring and they weren't as gracious hosts as the old one. I really do feel sorry for many of those people. Especially the kids. They are just humans like us trying to live their lives. They are powerless and poor. It's so fcked up down there.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (U7cQ/)

391 Voted here but it's as dumbed down as it gets, gone back to filling out a paper vote then you put it into a copy machine .
Next November will be a nightmare

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (ZCEU2)

392 This is the kind of thing that power mad men do just to prove that they're in total control.
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM

Which is why we should drone some of these fuckers into dust.
Posted by: Minnfidel

Into moist spots in the dirt.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (NJ+n1)

393 374 Don't know if I'm in favor of "boots on the ground" ... but B-52's
napalm carpet bombing the cartels' crop fields and processing facilities
would warm the cockles of my heart.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (9V81o)

Seconded.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (77WPm)

394 I always love these all or nothing proposition. So because legalization won't 100% get rid of the criminal element, it's not worth doing.

If you legalized cocaine and heroin tomorrow, would Mexican drug cartels be more or less powerful the day after tomorrow? And yeah they could find other ways to make money, but there's only so much construction graft out there vs the demand for illegal drugs.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (FiUMj)

395 Amlo is a card carrying commie. Nothing will get resolved with the cartels.

Posted by: Galil at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (Pzzpr)

396 I say we go Mongolian on them. Find some of their leaders and pour molten gold and silver down their throats. If traditional tactics aren't working, go medieval on their asses and watch them piss themselves over the crazy gringoes.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (rP4OC)

You have a newsletter I can subscribe to?

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (J3vQe)

397 including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."

That's just the spirochetes talkin'.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (xQJTG)

398 I'll say this for the Cartels. They don't stage their murders like suicides.

Posted by: dirks strewn DA 1977 at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (/Fmtj)

399 RE: The Allahpundit sidebar; lots and lots of leftist NTers in that feed, including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."

It's so sad what happened to some of the regulars here.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (AFSld)

Gabe's gone soft?! I'll have to see it with my own eyes or his twitter feed.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (Fvogs)

400 I don't want to invade Mexico. Mexicans are the only ones who can change Mexico. I want to keep the narcos south of the border. I want a wall--not a fence, and actual, honest-to-God medieval wall with stones and towers and gun emplacements. I want a 10-mile DMZ. I want a dedicated Army unit whose sole task is to patrol the DMZ. What the Mexicans do south of the wall is their affair.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (RD7QR)

401 We can make major inroads on pot dealers by
legalizing it and get lots of tax money too! People will definitely pay
more at our government regulated stores for shittier weed than the guy
selling it out of his house!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (8bFEc)

This.

Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (rP4OC)

402 Let's send Hillary to negotiate with the Cartels. And then finish the fucking wall.

-

And not tell her where the gate is.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at November 05, 2019 03:41 PM (+y/Ru)

Because the "reset button" foreign policy works really well.

Posted by: Sponge at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (Zz0t1)

403 But hey, let's invade Syria instead. Or something.

--Your foreign policy brain trust and deli

Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (Boy/L)

404 Hell, the cartels are the legal suppliers to Colorado through proxies.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (YOhRS)

405 393 374 Don't know if I'm in favor of "boots on the ground" ... but B-52's napalm carpet bombing the cartels' crop fields and processing facilities would warm the cockles of my heart.

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (9V81o)

Seconded.

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I'd be worried the left learns about the cartel's death squads (that targeted military families during the battle in blah blah blah) and realize they could use them as allies in this current wivil car.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (FEQY4)

406 Why do we need to exit?
Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (sX1BW)

At some point, an idiot with a D after his name is going to be in the White House after campaigning about how the operation failed (even though it didn't), and pull out anyway.

If your plan requires Republicans in the Oval Office in perpetuity, it's a bad plan.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (KUaJL)

407 >>>That's just the spirochetes talkin'.

I wasn't much of a fan when he was here - entirely too smug - but he never came off as someone to follow the likes of the cucks.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:48 PM (AFSld)

408 I'd be quite fine with clearly identified drone strikes, just to keep them nervous all the time. Not boots on the ground though.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM

Same here.

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:48 PM (U7cQ/)

409 So because legalization won't 100% get rid of the criminal element, it's not worth doing.

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I'm in favor of legalization. I'm not in favor of regulation and taxation. Just let me grow and smoke my own weed. If you aren't for that, you aren't for legalization.

Posted by: SH at November 05, 2019 03:48 PM (sX1BW)

410 Well, some guy called in and said "well, there was an acid attack in Oregon(?) and that shows we're not safe in trump's america"

--

Nothing like a no-details story to blame Trump. I mean, I guess it's not like the Knock Out Game during Obama's America, huh? Or Trump's America where if you where a MAGA hat, you have a better than not chance of being assaulted. Or spit on. Or severely harrassed. Or doxxed.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (JoUsr)

411 We can make major inroads on pot dealers by
legalizing it and get lots of tax money too! People will definitely pay
more at our government regulated stores for shittier weed than the guy
selling it out of his house!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (8bFEc)

Read a report that the province of (I think) Ontario lost something like CAD 42m selling weed last year. So I filed that under "Where's your evidence that government can't do anything right?"

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (77WPm)

412 01 We can make major inroads on pot dealers by
legalizing it and get lots of tax money too! People will definitely pay
more at our government regulated stores for shittier weed than the guy
selling it out of his house!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (8bFEc)

This.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM (rP4OC)

And I don't even really give a damn about legalized pot.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (8bFEc)

413 396 I say we go Mongolian on them. Find some of their leaders and pour molten gold and silver down their throats. If traditional tactics aren't working, go medieval on their asses and watch them piss themselves over the crazy gringoes.
Posted by: MWR, The Public Intellectual (aka Beth) at November 05, 2019 03:37 PM (rP4OC)

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that's so...old america of you.

the modern american solution would be to grant them all citizenship and then demand racially equivalent prosecution outcomes. Sort of like Obama's school discipline iniative.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (FEQY4)

414 Oh no, Trump called the cartel monsters. Waiting for Nancy to condemn Trumps hurtful language.

Posted by: redridinghood at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (wiXsO)

415 Oooo...

My Buster Keaton movies have shipped.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (q80AH)

416 The Allahpundit sidebar; lots and lots of leftist NTers in that feed, including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."

It's so sad what happened to some of the regulars here.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (AFSld)

I think part of the reason Malor left here is that he got schooled one too many times on his bullshit.

Posted by: Easy Andy at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (tL/BP)

417 We made piracy go away.

How? Hanging the fuckers.

If you make an occupation lethal enough, the risk is no longer work the reward.

Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM---

Psssst...don't forget about us.

Posted by: Somalian Pirates at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (JUOKG)

418 Be a damned shame if the drug lords didn't get to enjoy their estates, mansions, yachts, and families because mysterious explosions that seemed to mysteriously occur right after noises that sounded like jets and/or rockets kept wrecking them.

Posted by: DamnedYankee at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (O8SrN)

419 I always love these all or nothing proposition. So because legalization won't 100% get rid of the criminal element, it's not worth doing.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:46 PM (FiUMj)
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Get fucking real. Yeah, it's not like legalization was never oversold or anything.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (YOhRS)

420 Read a report that the province of (I think) Ontario lost something like CAD 42m selling weed last year. So I filed that under "Where's your evidence that government can't do anything right?"

In fairness, our government went bankrupt running a whorehouse in Nevada.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (xQJTG)

421 368 When you kill Americans there needs to be a price paid as other dominant civilizations used to do. Examples need to be made."

I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but there's one point that I think a lot of people are missing. These people are all Mexican citizens; the reason they're all being referred to as American Citizens is that when their women are about to give birth, she is transported up to the States (Utah or Arizona, where they have Mormon connections) and the child is born here. Birthright Citizenship. Then they go back to Mexico.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (Kpl3J)

422 Oh no, Trump called the cartel monsters. Waiting for Nancy to condemn Trumps hurtful language.
Posted by: redridinghood at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM

Why does he hate Mexicans!

Posted by: Minnfidel at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (U7cQ/)

423 410 Well, some guy called in and said "well, there was an acid attack in Oregon(?) and that shows we're not safe in trump's america"

--

Nothing like a no-details story to blame Trump. I mean, I guess it's not like the Knock Out Game during Obama's America, huh? Or Trump's America where if you where a MAGA hat, you have a better than not chance of being assaulted. Or spit on. Or severely harrassed. Or doxxed.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (JoUsr)

In Trump's America, we' be safe. In Leftist shit-holes, not so much.

Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (zBaqJ)

424 >>>I think part of the reason Malor left here is that he got schooled one too many times on his bullshit.

Amish Dude is just as bad. We finally get an actual conservative president then they flee to the left? Says a lot.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (AFSld)

425 See! Mexico did NOT send us all their rapists and murderers!
-Barry Cloggenstein

Posted by: random ~~lurker~~ commenter at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM (48RE5)

426 >>>Oh no, Trump called the cartel monsters. Waiting for Nancy to condemn Trumps hurtful language.

It's been added to the impeachment proceedings. Probably.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (AFSld)

427 We can make major inroads on pot dealers by
legalizing it and get lots of tax money too! People will definitely pay
more at our government regulated stores for shittier weed than the guy
selling it out of his house!

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (8bFEc)

___

Yeah that's why there are several pot companies raising billions of dollars and going public. Cuz nobody buys legal weed.

I can also count on Buzzion's expert analysis.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (FiUMj)

428 Arizona, where they have Mormon connections) and the child is born here. Birthright Citizenship. Then they go back to Mexico.

In the pictures I saw they looked awfully "Anglo"

Posted by: It's me donna at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (6XlcD)

429 OK, I officially don't give a fuck how long Sean Spicer stays on "Dancing with the Stars."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (sWM8x)

430 No money for molten gold or silver. Steel, on the hand.......

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (jjyGW)

431 I can't really recommend visiting Mexico until it stops being the sort of place that people desperately want to leave.

Posted by: DaveM at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (WWC3Y)

432 LOL. Christmas lights are like Jeffery Epstein. They don't hang themselves either.

Posted by: rickb223 at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (NJ+n1)

433 including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."
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How is Nunes a "clown?"

Posted by: JoeF. at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (CqE5x)

434 Waiting for the wailing from the left that Trump called them "monsters". You know they will.

Posted by: Cheri at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (oiNtH)

435 >>Amish Dude is just as bad. We finally get an actual conservative president then they flee to the left? Says a lot.

Did you know Amish Dude is a math genius?

It's true. He told me. Endlessly.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (ZLI7S)

436 Afghanistan would have turned out much differently
if we had gone in realizing that the civilian population was never going
to be on our side. Neither will the Mexicans.

Posted by: Tom Servo
Again, I'd be with you if it weren't on--hell, INSIDE our borders. Directly. Not on the other side of the planet. Right here. We don't really have a choice on this one.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
Your ad here! 1-800-MORON-AD
at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (AM1GF)

437 Nothing like a no-details story to blame Trump. I mean, I guess it's not like the Knock Out Game during Obama's America, huh? Or Trump's America where if you where a MAGA hat, you have a better than not chance of being assaulted. Or spit on. Or severely harrassed. Or doxxed.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at November 05, 2019 03:49 PM (JoUsr)

In Trump's America, we' be safe. In Leftist shit-holes, not so much.

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kinda like how the somali hammer attacks have turned minnesota into a hotbed of "anti-migrant fervor" and muslim rape n' grenade attacks have turned Sweden into a "hotbed of nationalism" because those are the real bad things to liberals.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (FEQY4)

438 IF YOU JUNKIES IN FLYOVER COUNTRY COULD PUT DOWN YOUR METH PIPES THIS WOULDN'T BE HAPPENING

Posted by: E. Presley at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (t8hbk)

439 OK, I officially don't give a fuck how long Sean Spicer stays on "Dancing with the Stars."

Now that I've learned that it's triggering progs I might look up how to vote for him.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (ZGrMX)

440 408 I'd be quite fine with clearly identified drone strikes, just to keep them nervous all the time. Not boots on the ground though.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM

And just like Iraq and Afghanistan, the MSM will run stories about how "innocent wedding parties" are being blown up every week, just for happily celebrating by shooting all of their guns in the air.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (Kpl3J)

441 Med-Men and PharmaCan merged for a combined company worth $680M. More evidence that legal pot isn't changing anything man!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (FiUMj)

442 including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."

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How is Nunes a "clown?"

Posted by: JoeF. at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (CqE5x)

Forget about it, Joe. It's Malortown

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (77WPm)

443 Yeah that's why there are several pot companies raising billions of dollars and going public. Cuz nobody buys legal weed.

I can also count on Buzzion's expert analysis.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (FiUMj)

Did you see the news that a canadian weed company bought a weed startup at 150 times their revenue? Buzzion is right. Buying legal weed is for losers.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (Fvogs)

444 -
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Gabe's gone soft?! I'll have to see it with my own eyes or his twitter feed.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM

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Somebody showed him a racy photo of Kate Upton.

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (pMGkg)

445 It's been added to the impeachment proceedings. Probably.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (AFSld)
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It's not in the official State Department policy guidelines.

Posted by: The Deep State Department at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (YOhRS)

446 376 What is the exit strategy? The conditions of victory? No Pershing type expeditions until said conditions are clearly demarcated.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (J3vQe)

Jfc, it's not fucking Afghanistan, and it's not a war of choice. It's a neighboring country, and things like this are the most important reason why we have an army.

Posted by: Monty James at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (Zqz9o)

447 maybe if these jesus botherers of all stripes just stopped with the south american bullshit, and the somlian bullshit, we'd all be better off.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at November 05, 2019 03:27 PM (FEQY4)

Send the Mormons to Afghanistan, armed to the teeth, with orders to convert all the muzzies, or kill them.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (/sgva)

448
I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but
there's one point that I think a lot of people are missing. These
people are all Mexican citizens; the reason they're all being referred
to as American Citizens is that when their women are about to give
birth, she is transported up to the States (Utah or Arizona, where they
have Mormon connections) and the child is born here. Birthright
Citizenship. Then they go back to Mexico.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:50 PM

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In the pictures I saw they as white as me. Plus I read they all had dual US-Mexican citizenship.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (JUOKG)

449 ah yes Sonora, that was the preserve of Rafael caro quintero, the one who directed the torture and murder of dea agent, kiki Camarena, they caught up with him in costa rica in 1989, and we was sentenced for 30 years, got out in 24 years, and wasn't heard from again,

Posted by: gaius martius at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (hMlTh)

450 >>>How is Nunes a "clown?"

Gabe apparently didn't like his questioning of Sondland today. And because Gabe is a hack.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (AFSld)

451 433 including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."
---------------------------------------------------------------
How is Nunes a "clown?"
Posted by: JoeF. at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (CqE5x)

How is Gabe Malor a "conservative"?

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (Kpl3J)

452

Yeah that's why there are several pot companies raising billions of dollars and going public. Cuz nobody buys legal weed.

I can also count on Buzzion's expert analysis.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:51 PM (FiUMj)

Not what I said but then reading comprehension has always been a problem for you.

Why don't you go back to whatever hole you went to when you were banned last time.

Posted by: Buzzion at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (8bFEc)

453 including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."
---------------------------------------------------------------

How is Nunes a "clown?"

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Well you see ... two men should definitely get married and such and if you don't support that you are the biggest bigot in the world. The Constitution calls for it.

And I know - I'm a lawyer.

No I never practiced law.

But I write about - er, tweet - about it.

And I went to a Tier 2 - er, tier 3 - law school.

So shove it bigot.

Posted by: The Gabe at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (sX1BW)

454 TheJamesMadison - How many titles?

Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (ZCEU2)

455 I don't want to speak ill of the dead, but there's one point that I think a lot of people are missing. These people are all Mexican citizens; the reason they're all being referred to as American Citizens is that when their women are about to give birth, she is transported up to the States (Utah or Arizona, where they have Mormon connections) and the child is born here. Birthright Citizenship. Then they go back to Mexico."

Yep.

But reason enough to reduce a few cartel leaders into "ex"...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (6qErC)

456 160
109 Joe Walsh@WalshFreedom

I'm a conservative, but I have no doubt that Donald Trump's actual
authoritarianism is a much bigger threat to this country than any of the
Democrat's hoped-for socialism.

If he is such an authoritarian why aren't you digging a sanitary trench in the tundra at Trump Camp Kiska?

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Warm Yourself with Rages and Roars from the Outrage Outlet!

I gave up digging sanitary trenches because people kept coming over and shitting in them.

Posted by: dirks strewn DA 1977 at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (/Fmtj)

457 >>>Did you know Amish Dude is a math genius?

It's true. He told me. Endlessly.

No worries here; I'm a genius at arrest paperwork and answering phones. Basically a secretary with a gun.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (AFSld)

458 OK let's do nothing except what we have been doing for 40 years. Just keep saying no kids and all will be well.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (FiUMj)

459 454 TheJamesMadison - How many titles?
Posted by: Skip at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (ZCEU2)

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3 across 2 discs.

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Posted by: TheJamesMadison, Just All about the Billy Wilder movies at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (q80AH)

460 These people are all Mexican citizens; the reason
they're all being referred to as American Citizens is that when their
women are about to give birth, she is transported up to the States (Utah
or Arizona, where they have Mormon connections) and the child is born
here. Birthright Citizenship. Then they go back to Mexico.

Posted by: Tom Servo

Somehow I get the idea that distinction is lost on the reavers down there.

Posted by: Brother Cavil
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at November 05, 2019 03:54 PM (AM1GF)

461 What would Deep State do in these circumstances?

Posted by: Puddin Head at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (yRAFu)

462 Did you know Amish Dude is a math genius?

It's true. He told me. Endlessly.
Posted by: JackStraw

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"Its true. He told me multiple times."

FIFY

Posted by: Tonypete at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (Y4EXg)

463 The Allahpundit sidebar; lots and lots of leftist NTers in that feed, including Gabe Malor, who now calls Rep. Nunes a "clown."

It's so sad what happened to some of the regulars here.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:45 PM (AFSld)

Patterico, possibly the dumbest of the NTs, absolutely despises Devin Nunes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (y7DUB)

464 Gabe's gone soft?! I'll have to see it with my own eyes or his twitter feed.

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:47 PM

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Somebody showed him a racy photo of Kate Upton.

Posted by: irright at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (pMGkg)

Ha! LoL

Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (Fvogs)

465 The problem with trying to bomb the cartel leadership is finding them. Same problem with any insurgent leadership: the higher ups know that they can be targeted if they pop their heads up, so they work through intermediaries.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (wCmLp)

466 The way to actually stop terrorists is to kill their children.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (YslsA)

467 nood

Posted by: andycanuck at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (Dh1wo)

468 Gabe Malor and AmishDude...those were nasty flame wars in 2016..

Posted by: IC at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (a0IVu)

469 It's so sad what happened to some of the regulars here.

Malor snapped sometime around when everyone who told him that ghey "marriage" was a slippery slope was proven true.

Posted by: Ian S. at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (ZGrMX)

470 >>No worries here; I'm a genius at arrest paperwork and answering phones. Basically a secretary with a gun.

I've done extensive research on beer and rum. I don't want to brag but I'm kind of an expert on what I like.

Posted by: JackStraw at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (ZLI7S)

471 They are powerless "

That's the plan our betters have for us.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (6qErC)

472 Patterico, possibly the dumbest of the NTs, absolutely despises Devin Nunes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at November 05, 2019 03:55 PM (y7DUB)

They all loathe anyone who casts any sort of light or sense in the direction of pencil-neck's kangaroo kourt.

Posted by: DocJ at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (77WPm)

473 >>>>Did you know Amish Dude is a math genius?

It's true. He told me. Endlessly.

Wasn't he the one who was Swatted? If so, he basically joined the side of his Swatter.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (AFSld)

474 Sorry, I meant Patterico.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (AFSld)

475 How is Gabe Malor a "conservative"?
Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (Kpl3J)
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He played one on TV.

I make no bones about whether I care if somebody considers me "conservative" or not.

But, I have a certain pattern into which the word "conservative" fits, and it doesn't fit a lot of NeverTrumpers these days.

Nichols worries that the crypto-left has gone too far left? Where's his fucking expertise supposed to show up?

It's like he's cared very little for sussing up the "side" he was joining.

Posted by: Axeman at November 05, 2019 03:57 PM (YOhRS)

476 >>>I've done extensive research on beer and rum. I don't want to brag but I'm kind of an expert on what I like.

So like Tom Nichols, without the assholery.

Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:57 PM (AFSld)

477 In the pictures I saw they as white as me. Plus I read they all had dual US-Mexican citizenship.
Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (JUOKG)

If you look at the history, the Mormons started setting up colonies there over 100 years ago. Yes, dual citizenship - that's what I said. They are full time Mexican citizens, they live their entire lives in Mexico, like their parents did. And their women come across the border to deliver here so they can claim US citizenship as well. You may be surprised to know that there are quite a few "white" Mexicans. Down in Mexico City, that's the Ruling Class.

Posted by: Tom Servo at November 05, 2019 03:57 PM (Kpl3J)

478 I'm sure there's a worse idea than trying to nation build in Mexico. Granted, I can't think of one right now - but the day's still young. I'll have to work on it. Give me time.

Wanna' take a guess why Mexico is a shit-hole ? Because it's a shitty culture, in the macro sense, that never has and never will do any better for itself. It's not like the cartels came from across the seas and subjugated all the peaceful natives in their white work clothes with hot senoritas. No - the cartels ARE the best and brightest that Mexican culture has to offer. They're as authentic to Mexico as baseball, hotdogs, apple pie and Chevrolet is here ... and they're winning there.

How in the fuck does one intend on changing that ? Kill 'em all ? Sort the "good ones" from the "bad ones" ? Teach them through force what private property rights really means ? Good luck, nation builders across the fruited plain. Maybe another Vietnam, this time with a south of the border flair, will get it through your thick heads that you can't bomb anybody out of the Stone Age. But I doubt it.

Ah ... I got it. An idea even worse than nation building down there. Let's import 'em all up here !!! See - I told you. Just gimme' time.

Posted by: Mr. Misogyny at November 05, 2019 03:59 PM (ZUUI1)

479 Down in Mexico City, that's the Ruling Class."

Yep. Then they roll back up norte, and claim "protected class" status...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 03:59 PM (6qErC)

480 Can we just send James Taylor down there? At least we wouldn't have to listen to him anymore.
P.S. cartel guys: keep the head.

Posted by: wth at November 05, 2019 03:59 PM (v0R5T)

481
Malor is gone because Soothsayer ran him off.

Ace needs to mint a shiny Cuckslayer Medal and pin it on that fuckin' hero.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at November 05, 2019 03:59 PM (AzW6q)

482 I suspect there are several layers to this "story" that might explain the whole thing , but just like most things these days too many players want to make it about something else.

e.g Bidens Bidenness ???, Epsteins Frolics??? Clintons Crookedness ??? et al.

Since this story bleeds big time it will LEAD to mucho speculado. stay tuned................for mega B.S and obfuscation.

Posted by: saf at November 05, 2019 04:00 PM (5IHGB)

483 A-10 strafing runs and Apaches. BUFF can rest.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at November 05, 2019 03:44 PM (zBaqJ)

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Sorry - but I disagree. A-10's and Apaches are what you send to dust off a couple of cavern-dwelling fundamentalist terrorists in Afghanistan.

When you want to send a message to the cartels that they will understand, you don't drop munitions by the thousands of pounds. You drop it by the thousands of tons.
You block out the sun with the silhouettes of America's strategic arsenal. It's projecting power. It's saying "there's literally nothing you can do to stop this from happening".

Posted by: Defenestratus at November 05, 2019 04:00 PM (9V81o)

484 340 Whoever made this reply to the amorphous hermaphroditic blob and Taterbeast Brian Stelter must read AoS:

https://tinyurl.com/y2yauas4

OMG! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Posted by: Wonkish Rogue at November 05, 2019 04:01 PM (BRpqW)

485 My wife does a lot of charity work through her church. Mainly water safety and quality measures in African nations. If she thinks for one fucking minute she is going to Kenya or some other god for saken shit hole to work, we're gonna a have a major issue on our hands.

Posted by: dananjcon at November 05, 2019 03:40 PM (u6xw0)

Why is it always the same outfits who can't get their heads and their asses wired together? We don't have to send people to Japan to help them with water safety and quality measures. How long have people been drinking water in Africa? When exactly are they going to get their shit together and out of the water supply?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at November 05, 2019 04:01 PM (hGXZE)

486 446 376 What is the exit strategy? The conditions of victory? No Pershing type expeditions until said conditions are clearly demarcated.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 05, 2019 03:43 PM (J3vQe)

Jfc, it's not fucking Afghanistan, and it's not a war of choice. It's a neighboring country, and things like this are the most important reason why we have an army.
Posted by: Monty James at November 05, 2019 03:53 PM (Zqz9o)

So you got nothing then.

Posted by: WinLinBSDAdmin at November 05, 2019 04:01 PM (J3vQe)

487 I'm sure there's a worse idea than trying to nation build in Mexico."

Sure is. It involves one's genitalia and Dyson vac...

And can we cut out the "'murrican drug demand causes" shiite?

You wanna assert that US drug users is why Mexico went shebang in the 1830s? 60s? 80s? Early 20th Century?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at November 05, 2019 04:01 PM (6qErC)

488 MedMen Scraps Its PharmaCann Acquisition: Disaster or No Big Deal?

http://bit.ly/2NnoEe5

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 04:02 PM (xQJTG)

489 I'm sure there's a worse idea than trying to nation build in Mexico.

SURPRISE!!!

Posted by: Otters at November 05, 2019 04:05 PM (NJ+n1)

490 The only way we should get involved is to set end points. Limited goals. And fight to win. I want a hundred mile southern exstention of our border. Call it the American Mexican cooperation territory. Nothing moves through it without our permission.

Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at November 05, 2019 04:05 PM (0OmEj)

491 I guess I should watch the Wild Bunch tonight.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton

That's one of my fave flicks.

And I think "We want Angel" is one of the BADDEST lines ever uttered on film.

Posted by: JT at November 05, 2019 04:06 PM (arJlL)

492 You wanna assert that US drug users is why Mexico went shebang in the 1830s? 60s? 80s? Early 20th Century?

Not me. No more than the drunk can blame all his problems on the liquor store. The only way we fuck Mexico is the same way we fuck everyone else - by trying to help.

Cultures choose the way they are. They are what they are for a reason. Themselves.

Posted by: Mr. Misogyny at November 05, 2019 04:06 PM (ZUUI1)

493 473 Wasn't he the one who was Swatted? If so, he basically joined the side of his Swatter.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at November 05, 2019 03:56 PM (AFSld)

I kept getting this wrong.

I think it was Aaron Worthing who got SWATted.

Posted by: Allie at November 05, 2019 04:07 PM (sm6Pk)

494 If you had bought into MedMen Enterprises Inc. (OTC:MMNFF) back in January, you would only be down 40% for the year.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 04:09 PM (xQJTG)

495 Med-Men and PharmaCan merged for a combined company worth $680M. More evidence that legal pot isn't changing anything man!!
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (FiUMj)

No, the company is not worth that. Speculators are running up the stock, because it's a scam. "Legal" pot is this century's tulip craze.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2019 04:11 PM (/sgva)

496 I want a hundred mile southern exstention of our
border. Call it the American Mexican cooperation territory. Nothing
moves through it without our permission.
Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at November 05, 2019 04:05 PM (0OmEj)

Hell no - every resident will stay, and will be voting within a generation. Might as well turn off the lights in the Republic now - it'll save quite a bit of wasted time.

Posted by: Mr. Misogyny at November 05, 2019 04:11 PM (ZUUI1)

497 I'm starting to suspect that the Marijuana Corps are the new Pets.com.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 04:12 PM (xQJTG)

498 Did you see the news that a canadian weed company bought a weed startup at 150 times their revenue? Buzzion is right. Buying legal weed is for losers.
Posted by: Draki at November 05, 2019 03:52 PM (Fvogs)

Here in Canada, where weed got legalized, thanks to fag-boy Trudeau, none of the regular pot smokers who I know have stopped buying from their old illegal dealers. None.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at November 05, 2019 04:13 PM (/sgva)

499 Oh, this balance sheet is precious: https://yhoo.it/34zAzLu

Posted by: Grump928(C) at November 05, 2019 04:16 PM (xQJTG)

500 Territory. No voting rights just American control of the southern border on our terms not Mexican terms. In exchange we help with the cartel problem here and there. War on the cartels and border security for us. Make an exclusion zone that we control.

Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at November 05, 2019 04:16 PM (0OmEj)

501 No voting rights just American control of the
southern border on our terms not Mexican terms.
Posted by: usntakim now a russian bot. at November 05, 2019 04:16 PM (0OmEj)

Come on - it won't be the Mexicans raising the most hell to give them the vote. It'll be the Democrats. And the Chamber of Commerce Republicans.

No deal. We don't want a square inch of that ground - because of the people that come with it.

Posted by: Mr. Misogyny at November 05, 2019 04:19 PM (ZUUI1)

502 Solution, 100mi safety zone. Mexican civil authority, security by US. Complete free fire zone.

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 04:23 PM (zV0wX)

503 there's literally nothing you can do to stop this from happening".
Posted by: Defenestratus at November 05, 2019 04:0

Cry to the Dim media

Posted by: Jean at November 05, 2019 04:26 PM (zV0wX)

504 I should move to that colony in Mexico so I can become their senator, then convince the cartels that they are on the wrong side of history.

Posted by: Citizen Delecto at November 05, 2019 04:28 PM (j45YF)

505 "How is Gabe Malor a "conservative"?"

I, under another handle, asked that some years ago when inconsistencies kept popping up, but I got scolded for opening my mouth, at least once by Malor himself.

Exoneration feels nice. Really nice.

Posted by: Violent retard at November 05, 2019 04:35 PM (ldmQR)

506 Why were those women and children traveling without men from their family for protection? Especially knowing they were traveling through cartel territory and that their group had been threatened in the past.

Posted by: Floridachick at November 05, 2019 04:37 PM (t/4LF)

507 Why does this remind me of that scene in "Starship Troopers" of the radical LDS sect that tempted fate and were slaughtered by the Arachnids. Cartel country should be renamed Klendathu.

Posted by: deepred at November 05, 2019 04:39 PM (AfBox)

508 A couple in an RV were killed and buried in the sand in Corpus Christie. The rv was seen fleeing to Mexico.

Posted by: Abby at November 05, 2019 04:42 PM (dICGD)

509 I didn't think it was possible for me to hold Mittens in less regard but I was wrong.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at November 05, 2019 04:58 PM (pw+jk)

510 The cartels have influence on our side of the border as well. When do we look out for American interests. Mexico is a failed narco state. I don't want mexican land or mexican citizens made American I want our interests to come first. We have interest that say the cartels are massive criminal enterprise that stops now.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at November 05, 2019 05:06 PM (0OmEj)

511 "Lopez Obrador has emphasized anti-poverty programs as a means to reducing cartel membership, but ..."

Ah, the Seattle/San Francisco/Los Angeles solution ...

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 05, 2019 05:08 PM (XzVUd)

512 Federalist article from Oct 21st

https://tinyurl.com/y3qcm47r

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The last time this happened was a century ago, during the decade-long
Mexican Revolution, which eventually triggered the invasion and
occupation of northern Mexico in 1916 by the U.S. Army, including the
mobilization of the entire National Guard and a call for volunteers.
Before it was over, U.S. forces attacked and occupied Nogales, Sonora,
in 1918 and Ciudad Juarez in 1919.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at November 05, 2019 05:12 PM (XzVUd)

513

POT IN EVERY POT.

Druggies happy and Mexicans happy selling Tacos & dip.

who is buying all this SHIT......the Mormons & Amish...no the HASHAMITES.....................

Posted by: saf at November 05, 2019 05:31 PM (5IHGB)

514 Mitt is so broken up he promised to reimburse the cartel for the gasoline they used to burn the babies.

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at November 05, 2019 08:54 PM (Ju2mK)

515 The cartels control almost all commerce in much of Mexico. If you purchase a lime, avocado or tomato from Mexico, the cartel got paid a fee for permitting transport. It is possible that these Mormons had refused to pay making the cartel seem weak. This was no mistaken attack. It was targeted and horrific precisely to make a point. I have read elsewhere that there was a defense perimeter set up by the attackers with a communications dead zone to prevent any police or military response.

Posted by: Charley at November 06, 2019 01:07 AM (E27lh)

516 Obama arms Mexican drug cartel to the teeth with guns. Mexican drug lords slaughter Americans with said guns. Liberals can't find anyone to blame. For the children! Don't worry.....Be Happy !
Morons rule in a socialist utopia, Useful fools do too !
Enjoy your utopia, it's gonna get a lot worse !

Posted by: ron n. at November 06, 2019 03:15 AM (om5HK)

517 for some reason I've been youtubing "b52 arc light". Try it, it's fun!

Posted by: Byzantine General at November 06, 2019 11:33 AM (rjOWC)

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