Food Thread: Unctuousness, Alien Vegetables, And The Priciest Shot On The Planet

Pork butt lends itself to long, slow cooking, because of the amount of fat and connective tissue that needs to be rendered and softened. But the end result is marvelous, especially for simple preparations like tacos and pulled pork sandwiches.

Why does it taste so good? Well, all of that rendered fat and connective tissue has been bathing the meat for the hours and hours of the cook, so if you don't screw it up completely (and pork is very forgiving, so it's tough to ruin), every mouthful will have some of that wonderful unctuous fat and gelatin and collagen accompanying the meat.

And why is pork butt on my mind (more than usual)? Because I decided to cook one with my new Sous Vide machine, and it came out perfect. The best I have ever made. 24 hours at 160°, then 90 minutes in the oven at 350° with a bit of extra dry rub to make a nice crust.

Wow. And the best part was that I didn't have to keep checking the temperature of my smoker and worry about drying the meat too much.

Sous Vide won't replace conventional cooking, and I will still use my smoker, because a teaspoon of liquid smoke is only a fair substitute for the real smoke from hard woods (I didn't! I swear! But the recipe called for it). But it sure is easy, and it is fun, so I will now be able to make great tacos even when I don't feel like spending the day communing with my smoker.

I kept those tacos really, really simple. pulled pork, pickled red onions, pickled jalapenos and a liberal several squirts of a mixture of goat cheese and heavy cream. Hey! It was a last minute idea, but it worked very well. It needed some heat to make it good, but a little hot sauce fixed that. And I forgot to use chopped cilantro, but that's for next time.

By the way, one of the problems with Sous Vide is the dearth of good recipes and data. For instance, I made hard-boiled eggs this morning (yeah...just screwing around), and the recipe from the manufacturer was total crap. "Hard-boiled" doesn't mean, "crack the egg and have it pour through your fingers onto the counter." It was embarrassing...slurping up egg from the counter-top.

******.

My local watering hole used to have a fantastic bartender (if you called him a mixologist he would spit in your chocotini), but several years ago he moved on to worse pastures (he's a damned therapist now! What a waste). His cocktail program survived...barely...but without his methodical and inventive approach to cocktail making, it is mostly dead. Making a great cocktail starts with a good recipe, but the technique is important too, and let us not ignore precision. Measure your ingredients, or don't bother trying to make something special. It just won't work more than fitfully.

Anyway, I have been playing around with spicy margaritas (one of my local place's new creations), and one problem I am having is rimming the glass correctly. I have been using black sea salt, which looks great on the glass, but doesn't stick worth a damn.

1st World Problems! Any suggestions?

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This amuses me and disturbs me in equal portions. It is vastly amusing that people are taking booze so seriously, but at the end of the day, it is meant to be enjoyed, not traded as a commodity.

Bottle of whisky sells for $1.9 million, smashing auction records

That's $50,000 for each portion, and I simply cannot imagine that it will be appreciably better than a $200 bottle. There is no Holy Grail of food and drinks, and to elevate anything to such a level seems silly.

However, if any of you want to buy that bottle and invite me to taste it, I am all in! I'll bring the Velveeta dip and chips.

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I love chorizo. I love clams. I love white beans. So why ruin it with apple cider vinegar? In fact, why ruin food with vinegars? I see it in lots of recipes, and rarely is the acid in balance. That's why wine is a much better ingredient!

Spanish Clams with White Beans and Chorizo in Cider Broth

I would make this with white wine and just a splash of the vinegar for the cider flavor. Or maybe a splash of Calvados (French apple brandy).

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Yes, it's click-bait. And yes, it's at Jew-Hate Central (although the DNC is in the running for that moniker). But I like this list because it takes a sort-of-rational approach to the analysis of risk. Let's face it, had we seen the list in Time or on CNN the number 1 health risk would have been beef. Or bacon.

The 10 Most Dangerous Foods In The World

Hat Tip: redc1c4

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That's Cauliflower Au Gratin, and it's almost the same recipe I used a few weeks ago to great effect, but sadly lacking the well-aged milk. Yes, I had to use fresh milk, although to be honest I don't think the dish suffered too much.

If any of you need a boost in your vegetable intake, give this a shot. It is easy to make and spectacularly good. I used Ina Garten's recipe, but there must be thousands of similar recipes all over the internet. next time I will use some red pepper flakes to give it a little spicy pop, but still...it's a great dish.

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And speaking of cauliflower, this is "Romanesco Cauliflower," which I had never seen until a few days ago, where my local market was touting it as some sort of super food. Supposedly it is milder and nuttier tasting compared to regular cauliflower, but I was too intimidated to buy a head, since it looks like an alien, not a food.

Anyone ever try it?

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Food and cooking tips, Castelvetrano olives with a sprinkle of chili flakes, young wild pigs, crisp bacon (although I am moving toward less crisp), thick and fluffy pita, and good tomatoes that aren't square, pale pink and covered with Mestizo E.coli: cbd dot aoshq at gmail dot com. Any advocacy of French Toast with syrup will result in disciplinary action up to and including being nuked from orbit. And yes, shaking a Manhattan is blasphemy...it's in the Bible!

Posted by: CBD at 04:00 PM

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1 Surprise pork butt!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:01 PM (Dc2NZ)

2 Top 5.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:02 PM (Dhht7)

3 Or 2nd.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:02 PM (Dhht7)

4 Spanish clams in Andaluthia...

Yes, I have tried Romanesco cauliflower, and it does have a nuttier taste with hints of broccoli.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:04 PM (Dc2NZ)

5 Winter is coming. Time to stock up on the canned foods.

Posted by: HH at October 27, 2019 04:04 PM (mIJBI)

6 Not a big fan of pork butt.

Posted by: Ned Beatty at October 27, 2019 04:05 PM (GLShM)

7 Can't find an artichoke dip recipe in the DG. Am I missing it?

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:06 PM (dgt0l)

8 Anyway, I have been playing around with spicy margaritas (one of my local place's new creations), and one problem I am having is rimming the glass correctly. I have been using black sea salt, which looks great on the glass, but doesn't stick worth a damn.

1st World Problems! Any suggestions?

What are using now? A standard rimmer with a sponge and lime juice?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at October 27, 2019 04:07 PM (jp0Bv)

9 one problem I am having is rimming the glass correctly. I have been
using black sea salt, which looks great on the glass, but doesn't stick
worth a damn.

I assume you use a cut lime to moisten the rim? I've never had a problem with that. The biggest mistake noobs make is to put the salt on a plate and lower the glass onto the salt, thus salting both the outside and inside rims. The inside salt then just gets in the drink and tastes awful. Always tilt the glass almost horizontal and tap tap tap it in the salt.

Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:07 PM (T6t7i)

10 I still haven't found my frying pan, slow cooker, or COFFEE MAKER, so it's been delivery. How can people live like this?

Back to it, then.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:07 PM (Dc2NZ)

11 Turning vegan would be a big missed steak.

Posted by: Diogenes at October 27, 2019 04:07 PM (axyOa)

12 6
Not a big fan of pork butt.

Posted by: Ned Beatty

Testify!

Posted by: Huma at October 27, 2019 04:08 PM (T6t7i)

13 What are using now? A standard rimmer with a sponge and lime juice?
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And we're back to artisanal surprise anal.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:08 PM (Dc2NZ)

14 That gratin looks good. I've been using cauliflower a lot lately in gratins, substitutes for rice and as a mash.

Because keto.

Eh, watta gonna do? Not ideal replacements but usually pretty good.

Posted by: Tonypete at October 27, 2019 04:08 PM (Y4EXg)

15 "Hard-boiled" doesn't mean, "crack the egg and have it pour through your fingers onto the counter."

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You must have turned one page too far in the booklet. You apparently used the instructions for hardly boiled eggs.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 04:09 PM (mvenn)

16 I was a very early Sous Vide adopter, buying a SousVide Supreme probably 5 years ago. (Big bread maker looking thing that sits on the counter). But I stopped using it. For some reason, almost everything, especially steaks, just didn't taste quite right. Instead I've been in love with my Big Green Egg type (Costco knockoff), my Flair Espresso maker, and my Instant Pot. I use those constantly. The Espresso maker every day, and the Egg and Instant Pot at least twice a week each, tending to move toward the Instant Pot and away from the Egg as it gets colder. Although I do have a six hour pork rib thing going on right now in the Egg.

Posted by: Chris not rock at October 27, 2019 04:09 PM (WO0/g)

17 >>10 I still haven't found my frying pan, slow cooker, or COFFEE MAKER, so it's been delivery. How can people live like this? Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:07 PM (Dc2NZ)

IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE WHAT THE FUCK.

Posted by: Zod Roethlisburger at October 27, 2019 04:09 PM (XzT/D)

18 1.9 Million?

Better only get 2.

Posted by: Hunter Biden at October 27, 2019 04:10 PM (7OmVm)

19 J. Kenji Lopez-Alt is correct; presoaking dry legumes in heavily salted water makes a big, good, difference.

Posted by: Zod Roethlisburger at October 27, 2019 04:11 PM (XzT/D)

20 Can't find an artichoke dip recipe in the DG. Am I missing it?

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It might be in the "Desserts" section.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 04:11 PM (mvenn)

21 CBD, I made that Coq au vin recipe you posted a couple weeks ago.

Delish! I did add some baby carrots to it and, unfortunately, I had to use turkey bacon (hubby's allergy to pork kills me!) but it was still extremely tasty!

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2019 04:11 PM (cF8AT)

22 Her: Does this outfit make me look fat.

Him: No, it makes you look unctuous.

Posted by: Roy at October 27, 2019 04:11 PM (ABjxW)

23 but sadly lacking the well-aged milk. Yes, I had to use fresh milk

Well-aged milk? Like soured?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:11 PM (Dhht7)

24 'Hard Boiled' was a fun descriptive phrase. 'Two fisted' was another.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 04:11 PM (ycWCI)

25 Eris, are there no thrift shops local to you? You could get something to tide you over until you find your stuff.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 04:12 PM (fqM2k)

26 >>22 Her: Does this outfit make me look fat.

No. It makes you look...unrendered.

Posted by: Zod Roethlisburger at October 27, 2019 04:12 PM (XzT/D)

27 and one problem I am having is rimming

call me

Posted by: SHEP at October 27, 2019 04:13 PM (rpxSz)

28 Those tacos look delicious. I'm really really hungry right now too.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:13 PM (NWiLs)

29 Afternoon, eaters!

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 04:13 PM (MVjcR)

30 Good God, man! Rim your margarita vessel with a lime. Done and done.

Posted by: Fritz at October 27, 2019 04:14 PM (kLDv+)

31 Funny guy, Muldoon.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:15 PM (dgt0l)

32 Found my coffee maker! Thank God.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:15 PM (Dc2NZ)

33 I long for the days of the underintellctualizing of everything

"there's always room for improvement"

really ??

Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 04:15 PM (rpxSz)

34 RE: putting salt on margarita glasses I saw at Costco an electronic salter device. I can't remember the brand, maybe Sunbeam. The only problem I could see on a cursory look was that it doesn't take regular AA batteries. You have to use a salting battery.

...wait for it...

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 04:16 PM (mvenn)

35 Never had clams and chorizo, but BIL makes tasty Mussels, chorizo, tomato sauce recipe that's very good.
Need to have him make that and invite me over soon

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:16 PM (Dhht7)

36 That cauliflower looks like coral

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:17 PM (ZCEU2)

37 33 I long for the days of the underintellctualizing of everything

"there's always room for improvement"

really ??
Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 04:15 PM (rpxSz)

Of course. Because nothing one does is ever good enough.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

38 Been growing romanesco for 30 years. What's cool about it is unlike broccoli or cauliflower that you just cut, you can keep picking those fractal spirals off, and it keeps filling out. Plus, IMHO it tastes better than any other brassica. There's also a purple blushed variety, but it doesn't hold its color very well when cooked, and I think it's not quite as sweet as the chartreuse stuff.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 04:18 PM (Z1ykJ)

39 I could buy a lifetime of fine scotch for the price of that bottle.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:19 PM (ZCEU2)

40 I'd say it's as certain as al-Baghdadi had a bad hair day yesterday that that bottle will never be opened. It's an investment.

Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:20 PM (T6t7i)

41 No matter how you slice it, fancy Satan's warts are still Satan's warts, CBD.

Are you using a lime to wet the rim of the margarita glass?

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:20 PM (aXucN)

42 >>that bottle will never be opened. It's an investment.

It's always a safe bet that there will be someone dumber than you, I guess.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:21 PM (7OmVm)

43 That cauliflower looks like ~~coral~~ cacafuego.

Posted by: Fritz at October 27, 2019 04:21 PM (kLDv+)

44 clutch cargo knows his cauliflower, I would say.

Posted by: fluffy at October 27, 2019 04:21 PM (G5DE0)

45 Found my coffee maker! Thank God.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:15 PM (Dc2NZ)
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HOW HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:21 PM (aXucN)

46 It's always a safe bet that there will be someone dumber than you, I guess.

Posted by: garrett

Yup. The Greater Fool Hypothesis.

Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:21 PM (T6t7i)

47 I'm happy with Dewars and $49,983, thank you.

Posted by: sniffybigtoe at October 27, 2019 04:22 PM (+0AKE)

48 40 I'd say it's as certain as al-Baghdadi had a bad hair day yesterday that that bottle will never be opened. It's an investment.
Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:20 PM (T6t7i)

Which is kind of sad. Think about it, it would be like getting a 32 oz kobe beef steak delivered to your table.

You then tell the waiter to have it bronzed.

WTF?!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 04:22 PM (ycWCI)

49 The opposite of 'desserts' is 'stressed'.

Duh.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (mvenn)

50 Tami, I actually was just looking at that coq au vin recipe on my desk about an hour ago and thinking I need to make that this week.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (aXucN)

51 Bluebell, I'e been squatting at Mom's place most of the time, cuz I love Mommy and also she has cable and a fully functional kitchen.

But now I too have cable and coffee and a slow cooker.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (Dc2NZ)

52 While looking around for Lobster Mac and Cheese recipes, I came across a Gordon Ramsey recipe for

Macaroni and Cauliflower and Cheese Recipe that sounded great - you got your cauliflower gratin and mac and cheese all in one shot!

Here it is:

https://www.gordonramsay.com/gr/recipes/macaroni-

and-cauliflower-bake-with-three-cheeses/

(remove extra spaces)

I'll have to try this soon.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (kauXV)

53 Shredded pork:

Slow cooker 8 hours with onion, chili, orange juice and garlic.

Shred and broil for 5 - 10 min.

Done.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (1Vobx)

54 >>39 I could buy a lifetime of fine scotch for the price of that bottle. Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:19 PM (ZCEU2)

You are welcome to Zod's lot. Told that the 'hood drank scotch, laid in plenty of 'good stuff,' can't stand the stuff, realized the 'hood was indigo-blue, no mas fiesta con Zod, now I've got bottled gasoline sitting neglected in the booze-locker.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (XzT/D)

55 I tried some of that Jack Daniels BBQ pulled pork out the bag the other day.

It was good.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (Z+IKu)

56 $1.9 million.

Think I'll stick with the Kirkland Blended Scotch.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (3Z6pZ)

57 "And I forgot to use chopped cilantro, but that's for next time."

CBD, I'm disappointed. How could you possibly forget cilantro? Other than that faux pas the pork butt sounds delicious.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (aS1PU)

58 now I've got bottled gasoline sitting neglected in the booze-locker.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (XzT/D)
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Black tie Molotov cocktail party at Zod's swingin' bachelor pad!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:25 PM (Dc2NZ)

59 wine is a much better ingredient!

Yes, sir!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:25 PM (vEIlU)

60 Which is kind of sad. Think about it, it would be like getting a 32 oz kobe beef steak delivered to your table.

You then tell the waiter to have it bronzed.

WTF?!
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For boozed that expensive, the point isn't the drinking. The point is the snob appeal of owning.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:26 PM (3Z6pZ)

61 You are welcome to Zod's lot. Told that the 'hood drank scotch, laid in plenty of 'good stuff,' can't stand the stuff, realized the 'hood was indigo-blue, no mas fiesta con Zod, now I've got bottled gasoline sitting neglected in the booze-locker.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (XzT/D)
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You could probably palm it off on unsuspecting Morons at the next MoMe.

Happy birthday, by the way.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:26 PM (aXucN)

62 I'm going to celebrate finding my coffee maker by drinking Black Widow cider.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:26 PM (Dc2NZ)

63 >>Black tie Molotov cocktail party at Zod's swingin' bachelor pad! Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:25 PM (Dc2NZ)

Mrs in San Diaggo, Zod solo, unbillable manana, stocked.

There Will Be Weird.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:26 PM (XzT/D)

64 57 "And I forgot to use chopped cilantro, but that's for next time."

CBD, I'm disappointed. How could you possibly forget cilantro? Other than that faux pas the pork butt sounds delicious.
Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 04:24 PM (aS1PU)

Mmmm...soap flakes.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:27 PM (NWiLs)

65 50 Tami, I actually was just looking at that coq au vin recipe on my desk about an hour ago and thinking I need to make that this week.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (aXucN)

It was seriously good! Yours will be even better with REAL bacon.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2019 04:27 PM (cF8AT)

66 You said 'pork butt'.

I got excited.

Posted by: Matt Lauer at October 27, 2019 04:27 PM (tV9aF)

67 We are having leftover pork tenderloin tonight (perhaps with cauliflower - I prepped some earlier) and leftover mixed wild mushrooms sauteed in red wine.

All of the components of CBD's food thread!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:27 PM (vEIlU)

68 Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

fistbump

Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (rpxSz)

69 Re: the dangerous food link, they lost me in the 1st sentence. "It's no secret that hot dogs are one of the biggest choking hazards in the United States and many other countries."

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (aS1PU)

70 Mrs in San Diaggo, Zod solo, unbillable manana, stocked.

There Will Be Weird.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:26 PM (XzT/D)
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"San Diaggo"? are you certain the party hasn't already started?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (3Z6pZ)

71 >>Happy birthday, by the way. Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:26 PM (aXucN)

Thank you. You will pray to your bush-burner deity for Zod. One never needs insurance until one does.

Go Nats.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (XzT/D)

72 You know what else has unctuous stuff?

Vienna sausages.

Posted by: The Moron Goðrmet at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (DMUuz)

73 Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:17 PM (NWiLs)

fistbump
Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (rpxSz)

Mutant heathens!

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (aS1PU)

74 Romanesco is delicious..........roasted with lemon olive oil, salt and pepper

Posted by: westminsterdogshow at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (/UQ/R)

75 "San Diaggo"? are you certain the party hasn't already started?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (3Z6pZ)

I recite the Prayer of San Diageo.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (NWiLs)

76 *puts on bartender hat*
Maybe use a bit of simple syrup mixed with the lime juice to make the salt stick?

Posted by: lin-duh at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (UUBmN)

77 While looking around for Lobster Mac and Cheese recipes, I came across a Gordon Ramsey recipe....

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 04:23 PM (kauXV)

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Is there a version not using grams and milliliters? Harrumph.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:30 PM (Dhht7)

78 Romanesco ? Love it !
Pointing out that it embodies the concept of fractals might be too much like math for this crowd, but I think it's a feature !

Mrs Eez loves pickling the little cones, along with garlic and pearl onions, and I enjoy them a lot.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 04:30 PM (bwo3w)

79 Cilantro isn't necessary if you remeber the Maple Syrup.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:30 PM (7OmVm)

80 It was seriously good! Yours will be even better with REAL bacon.
Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2019 04:27 PM (cF8AT)
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I wasn't going to mention that I was going to use REAL bacon but I'll admit I sure was thinking it.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:30 PM (aXucN)

81 I recite the Prayer of San Diageo.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (NWiLs)
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Patron saint of diegetic music?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:31 PM (3Z6pZ)

82 >>"San Diaggo"? are you certain the party hasn't already started? Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (3Z6pZ)

Cousin, the party started (checks astrolabe) eight hours ago. The Aztecs spliced the main brace at noon. Zod now captains a ship of babbling, animated, potentially dangerous Nat-Turner fools.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:32 PM (XzT/D)

83 Thank you. You will pray to your bush-burner deity for Zod. One never needs insurance until one does.

Go Nats.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM (XzT/D)
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I shall indeed offer a prayer for you, Zod, and for the kind of hapless Nats. May they return tonight to their former glory.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:32 PM (aXucN)

84 That cauliflower looks like coral
Posted by: Skip

It looks like the business end of a tunnel-boring machine. Cleans the bowels right out?

Posted by: mikeski at October 27, 2019 04:32 PM (P1f+c)

85 clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 04:18 PM

I agree. Romanesco cauliflower (or broccoli) is great. The little fractal florets do look sort of alien.

Because of their superior flavor, I think they are best just steamed with a little butter, salt and maybe some pepper.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:33 PM (BVQ+1)

86 Y'all know that pork butt isn't from the butt, right?

Because if you didn't, surprise!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:33 PM (DMUuz)

87 81 I recite the Prayer of San Diageo.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:29 PM (NWiLs)
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Patron saint of diegetic music?
Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:31 PM (3Z6pZ)

Liquor industry.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:33 PM (NWiLs)

88 Hey Dunc - I want you to know I haven't forgotten about your inquiry last Saturday. I believe I have a great lead and I am waiting for an email back. I'll let you know when I hear.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:34 PM (aXucN)

89 Cilantro isn't necessary if you remeber the Maple Syrup.
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:30 PM

Cilantro on French Toast?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:34 PM (DMUuz)

90 89 Cilantro isn't necessary if you remeber the Maple Syrup.
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:30 PM

Cilantro on French Toast?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:34 PM (DMUuz)

Split the difference and use liquid Tide.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

91 The Aztecs spliced the main brace at noon.
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Well, just be careful if they ask you to participate in a nice ball game.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:35 PM (3Z6pZ)

92 >>Split the difference and use liquid Tide.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

Ancient Chinese secret, huh?

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:36 PM (XzT/D)

93 Split the difference and use liquid Tide.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

Tide Pod Pizza.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 04:36 PM (ycWCI)

94 I may have a spicy margarita recipe in the DG. Can't remember. A local Mexican place makes the best I've ever had.

And now husband and I are off to our friends' to meet Salena Zito.

Will report back.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 27, 2019 04:36 PM (ptqGC)

95 We did some bacon wrapped potatoes, ribeye steaks and green beans yesterday.

So so good.

Now, time to get the ribs off the pellet grill.

By the way, smoked the potatoes for an hour before turning the heat up. Nice crispy texture to the skin.

Mmmm.

Gotta run, time to eat!

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 04:37 PM (WEBkv)

96 Hey Dunc - I want you to know I haven't forgotten about your inquiry last Saturday. I believe I have a great lead and I am waiting for an email back. I'll let you know when I hear.
Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:34 PM

Thank you, we appreciate it!

And I've got some info for mr. bluebell, should Santa be asked for a little something.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:37 PM (DMUuz)

97 Split the difference and use liquid Tide.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:35 PM (NWiLs)

Ancient Chinese secret, huh?
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:36 PM (XzT/D)
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Mildly amusing when it was on that commercial. More amusing in this context.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:38 PM (3Z6pZ)

98 >>Tide Pod Pizza.

Try Our New Tide-Podzone!

Posted by: Pizza Hut at October 27, 2019 04:38 PM (7OmVm)

99 Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:27 PM (vEIlU)

Talk about kissing up

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2019 04:39 PM (aA3+G)

100 >>Cilantro on French Toast?

Don't blame me, blame CBD.

I'm a Maple Syrup on my Brioche French Toast Guy.

I also think wine is a scam.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:39 PM (7OmVm)

101 I like romanesco for its slightly sweet mild flavor and it has no strong smell like broccoli. I combined blanched romanesco, sauteed fennel bulb, caramelized sliced onion, and crisp fried capers with capellini. Good vegan side dish. Next time, I'll make it au gratin.

Posted by: Oggi at October 27, 2019 04:39 PM (Bk5Q+)

102 And I've got some info for mr. bluebell, should Santa be asked for a little something.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:37 PM (DMUuz)
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Awesome. He will be delighted.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:39 PM (aXucN)

103 >>91 The Aztecs spliced the main brace at noon.
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Well, just be careful if they ask you to participate in a nice ball game. Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:35 PM (3Z6pZ)

"The sun, master?"
(Zod sips from gin, sniffs wind, observes setting sun) "Yes. Perhaps. In the old manner. Use the weed-whacker, and this time give the heart to Canis Zod without teasing her. Your ways are...unorthodox."
(A Jose is seized, stripped, prepared)
"So that Tzllacxttoeleocotl is pleased!"
(Zod sips)
"Tuesday is recycling. Deposit the remnants in the blue can, not the green can."

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (XzT/D)

104 Tried something new last week-

Clairin!

Which is essentially Haitian moonshine.

These are pot still proof. Essentially what comes out of the still goes into the bottle.

They are insanely flavorful. Lots of crazy flavor mixtures whirling around in there. They make outstanding daiquiris.

The two types I found in our area were -

Clairin Vaval

and

Clairin Le Rocher

Clairin Vaval - tends toward vegetal and fruit flavors. For me the strongest flavor was sort of watermelons and canteloupish, but there was much more going on in there.

Clairin Le Rocher - was more challenging. It had a kind of burnt sugar smokiness, some light industrial solvents (in a good way) and a kind of wonderful marshmallowy fruitiness.

I also used the CLR with Bittermilk's No. 6 Oaxacan Old Fashioned mixer cuz of the smokiness. Man, was that good!

A perfect blending.

So, if you decide to try the Le Rocher, see if you can't scare up some of the BN6OOFM.

Check them out.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (kauXV)

105 DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 04:28 PM

Hot dogs really are a choking risk for little kids. Split them down the middle before serving.

Round hard candies are another choking risk. Ever noticed that Life Savers have a hole in the center? Could save some drama.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (BVQ+1)

106 By the way, smoked the potatoes for an hour before turning the heat up. Nice crispy texture to the skin.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 04:37

How'd the skin come out crispy if bacon wrapped?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (Dhht7)

107 I also think wine is a scam.
Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:39 PM (7OmVm)
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The beverage itself, or the pricing?

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (3Z6pZ)

108 >>The beverage itself, or the pricing?

Both.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (7OmVm)

109 Accidentally bought kale instead of leaf lettuce today, don't think I ever had it but should be fine in salads for a week.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (ZCEU2)

110 John Conyers has died.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (MwFQu)

111 Infidel, I don't think there is an artichoke dip recipe in TDG. I know there were several recipes for preparing artichokes themselves, but I don't think there were any in dips.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:42 PM (aXucN)

112 109 Accidentally bought kale instead of leaf lettuce today, don't think I ever had it but should be fine in salads for a week.
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (ZCEU2)

If you turn into a hipsterfag by next Saturday don't say you weren't warned.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:42 PM (NWiLs)

113 I honestly can't believe that everyone isn't just pretending to like the taste of almost 95% of alchoholic beverages.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:42 PM (7OmVm)

114 Oggi at October 27, 2019 04:39 PM

That sounds great! I would substitute bacon for the capers, for a non-vegan side dish.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:42 PM (BVQ+1)

115 Hot dogs really are a choking risk for little kids. Split them down the middle before serving.

Round hard candies are another choking risk. Ever noticed that Life Savers have a hole in the center? Could save some drama.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (BVQ+1)

True.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 04:42 PM (aS1PU)

116 >> John Conyers has died.

Well, you can't say you didn't have your chance to touch it...

Posted by: The Ghost of John Conyers at October 27, 2019 04:43 PM (7OmVm)

117 I'm in soup mode.

The first of the season was a seafood soup/chowder, then a mixed lentil, a Senate navy bean soup, and a delicious pea soup (ham hock AND bacon).

This morning I made a lovely two bean (chickpea and white bean cannellini) with fresh baby spinach and fresh rosemary and sage. A simple soup that comes together with my immersion blender, adding the spinach leaves and chopped sage after pureeing. Sauteed onions and garlic in olive oil to start, and then finished with a drizzle of oil and a sprinkle of parmesan to serve.

Which leads me to that cookbook I grab so often, bon appetit's fast easy fresh. This is where I found that recipe. Adding my own embellishments (like more garlic).

But, three nights in a row I used that cookbook.

Tuna steaks with Herbed Aioli

Duck breasts, sauteed with Wild Mushrooms

Jamaican Jerk Pork Tenderloin with Black Beans and Yellow Rice

Today, the Creamy Bean Soup with Fresh Herbs and Spinach.

If there is one cookbook I would recommend, it would be this one. Very quick, very tasty meals. A good variety. Lots of fish recipes (we eat fish/seafood at least 2-3 a week) which is one part of the book I really like. Even their banana bread recipe is good.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:43 PM (vEIlU)

118 I saw Light Industrial Solvents open for Rage Against the Machine at CBGBs in '99.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:43 PM (3Z6pZ)

119 Accidentally bought kale instead of leaf lettuce today, don't think I ever had it but should be fine in salads for a week.
Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (ZCEU2)
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Unless it's baby kale, it's going to be too dang chewy for salads.

If it's full-grown kale, fold the leaves in half, cut out the rib, chop the leaves into about 1" pieces, toss with a little olive oil, salt, and pepper, and roast at about 375 until they get crispy and a bit browned on the edges. That's the only way some of my kids will eat kale.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:44 PM (aXucN)

120 don't think I ever had it but should be fine in salads for a week.

Expect a LOT of chewing.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 27, 2019 04:44 PM (dUJdY)

121 John Conyers has died.
Posted by: Fox2! at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (MwFQu)
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The grifters are being called home.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at October 27, 2019 04:44 PM (3Z6pZ)

122 >>115 Hot dogs really are a choking risk for little kids. Split them down the middle before serving.

This is true. Zod's cousin was plucked up by his ankles and shaken by Zod's uncle Way Back When until he coughed up the bite.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:45 PM (XzT/D)

123 artisanal'ette, are you buying your duck breasts already boned and packaged?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:45 PM (u482j)

124 I honestly can't believe that everyone isn't just pretending to like the taste of almost 95% of alchoholic beverages.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:42 PM (7OmVm)

It is what it is, man.

That's okay if you don't like booze.

Stick with your Cucumber Water or Kombucha or whatever it is that floats your boat.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 04:45 PM (kauXV)

125 >>>>That's the only way some of my kids will eat kale.

That or chocolate syrup

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2019 04:45 PM (aA3+G)

126 I'm on an iPad, and it is a pain in the ass to cut and paste, so you will have figure out which comment I am answering.

You wear Crocs and aprons...of course you don't like wine!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 04:46 PM (wYseH)

127 I'm in soup mode.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:43 PM

Don't forget the perennial Horde #1 favorite, Thorvald's Cream of Lutefisk Soup, personally endorsed by the Lutefisk Ambassador to The Horde herself, grammie!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:46 PM (DMUuz)

128 I've made white bean and kale soup using cannellini and chicken broth.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:46 PM (Dc2NZ)

129 artisanal 'ette, that all sounds so good. I just checked my library to see if they have that cookbook - nope. I may have to put it on my Christmas list.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:47 PM (aXucN)

130 109 Accidentally bought kale instead of leaf lettuce today, don't think I ever had it but should be fine in salads for a week.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (ZCEU2)

It can be bitter just used as is. Put it in a bowl of water and let sit for 5 mins. or so. Rinse, then salt it...then massage by squeezing it to remove the bitter juices. Then let it rest in the bowl for another 5 mins.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2019 04:47 PM (cF8AT)

131 Does any here like Chip Butty? Crispy French Fried potatoes on buttered untoasted white bread. I'm quite addicted to it.

Posted by: Oggi at October 27, 2019 04:47 PM (Bk5Q+)

132 bluebell- didn't find one. Did find one online that I think will work. Chopped artichoke hearts (in water) fresh grated parm and mayo. Think I will add garlic and some ortega chopped green chilies. A little toasted baguette. I get tons of trick or treaters here and kidlet wants to come hang out. Thought that would be a good munchy. I can bake it in one of mom's cornflower blue corning ware dishes. Have the holder too. Not sure what else to have, tho.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:47 PM (dgt0l)

133 The florets on Romanesco cauliflower are arranged in Fibonacci spirals.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM (DYSh2)

134 "110 John Conyers has died.

Posted by: Fox2! at October 27, 2019 04:41 PM (MwFQu) "

Okay, that's two, who's gonna be #3 ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM (bwo3w)

135 If you saute that kale and drizzle some balsamic reduction on it and top it with a greasy Bacon Cheeseburger, it's edible.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM (7OmVm)

136 Duncanthrax, apologies for not getting right back to you. Will rectify this evening.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM (u482j)

137 Oggi: my late father used to reminisce about getting a french-fry sandwich for a nickel during the Depression. My grandmother griped that she'd make him nice lunches for school and he'd swap them for a fried potato sandwich.

Posted by: Trimegistus at October 27, 2019 04:49 PM (DYSh2)

138 >>You wear Crocs and aprons...of course you don't like wine!

...and you want me to send you Antelope Steaks?

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:49 PM (7OmVm)

139 That sounds good, Infidel.

Years ago, for no identifiable reason (maybe because I could do it ahead of time?) it became our tradition to have chili on Halloween. It was easy to get on the table, and I felt better knowing the kids would have something decent in their stomachs before the candy avalanche.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:50 PM (aXucN)

140 >>>Okay, that's two, who's gonna be #3 ?

Lead us not into temptation

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2019 04:50 PM (aA3+G)

141 The best duck breasts I've encountered are from Liberty Ducks in Sonoma County.

Here's some recipes from them:

http://www.libertyducks.com/recipes.html

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:50 PM (DMUuz)

142 Hey Skip...there is a nice recipe for kale salad somewhere in the deep recesses of the Food Thread archives (which don't exist).

Cut it into bite-sized pieces and marinate in vinegar and olive oil for awhile. It will soften and become almost edible!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 04:50 PM (wYseH)

143 116 >> John Conyers has died.

we're on a fucking roll

bet the house

Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (rpxSz)

144 Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:49 PM (7OmVm)

They should age properly through the US Mail

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (aA3+G)

145 >>If there is one cookbook I would recommend, it would be this one. Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:43 PM (vEIlU)

"The Food Lab" by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt.

"Real Cajun" by Donald Link.

Aunt Mabel's family recipes.

Others.

Do not trust that terrible cheesemaking book by whatshername up north. It's terrible. Gavin Webber's videos are much more useful.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (XzT/D)

146 Heidi is presently being cinnamon rolls and yesterday I had bread baking fail for baguettes and sunflower bread, both of which made great toast with eggs today. Woot.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'its an eating disorder!' at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (dMR4T)

147 >>They should age properly through the US Mail

I was gonna scribble a Haiku on the package and send via Media Rate!

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (7OmVm)

148 who's gonna be #3 ?

That rhymes with-

It's RBG!

Just sayin'.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (kauXV)

149 "The Food Lab" by Kenji.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (XzT/D)

150 Maxine next? Or Sheila Jackson Lee.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:52 PM (dgt0l)

151 Kale, quinoa and soy. The Unholy Trinity of vegan hipsterfag cuisine.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:52 PM (NWiLs)

152 I'm so glad that you are showing solidarity with the plight of the Chinese people suffering under the plight of having one quarter of the world's swine population wiped out due to the African Swine Fever.

Pork is 70% of the Chinese dietary protein.

Now hungry for the world's best Pork Butt from Wenzel Lonestar Meat Company in Hamilton, TX.

Posted by: Blue Bird of F'ing Joy at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (lD3vL)

153 Duncanthrax, apologies for not getting right back to you. Will rectify this evening.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM

No worries!

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (DMUuz)

154 Conyers cooling off.

Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (RuIsu)

155 >>Maxine next? Or Sheila Jackson Lee.

The one with the hat. Not the wighat.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (7OmVm)

156 Duncanthrax, I just buy whole ducks and remove the breasts and grill them. Cook up the rest of the duck and make enchiladas in blue corn tortillas.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (u482j)

157 150 Maxine next? Or Sheila Jackson Lee.
Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:52 PM (dgt0l)

Power of "and." Roll right over to the next trifecta.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (NWiLs)

158 Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (7OmVm)

Perfect

Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (aA3+G)

159 I read this week some news about Italian cheesemakers getting upset about the new US Tariffs on imported cheese. Got me thinking, how good is American-made cheese? Not American Cheese, but the artisanal cheese market? Then I ran across this video, and I thought the Horde would like to see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXFHul4wyDw

Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (0tmoY)

160 Okay, that's two, who's gonna be #3 ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM

I can only hope

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (ZCEU2)

161 ...and you want me to send you Antelope Steaks?

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 04:49 PM (7OmVm)

Why yes! Thanks,

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (wYseH)

162 "The Deplorable Gourmet", by The Horde, edited by bluebell and Weasel.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (DMUuz)

163 "The Food Lab" by J. Kenji Lopez-Alt.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:51 PM (XzT/D)
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We ate at a friend's house last night and they made short rib chili from that book. It was fantastic.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (aXucN)

164 156
Duncanthrax, I just buy whole ducks and remove the breasts and grill
them. Cook up the rest of the duck and make enchiladas in blue corn
tortillas.

Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck? Whole or parts, it doesn't matter.

Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (T6t7i)

165 artisanal'ette, are you buying your duck breasts already boned and packaged?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:45 PM (u482j)

It depends, but yes, in this case these were individually vacuum sealed in the poultry section of the meat department of my local grocer.

I usually keep a whole frozen duck in my freezer, too. It's a nice change from chicken whole chickens - which I buy in two's.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (vEIlU)

166 >>151 Kale, quinoa and soy. The Unholy Trinity of vegan hipsterfag cuisine. Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:52 PM (NWiLs)

Biodegradable sporks.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:55 PM (XzT/D)

167 Lead us not into temptation
Posted by: Misanthropic Humanitarian at October 27, 2019 04:50 PM (aA3+G)
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LOL - I was thinking, if this wasn't Sunday, I'd be nominating names.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:55 PM (aXucN)

168 Power of "and." Roll right over to the next trifecta.
Posted by: Insomniac

*spews adult beverage*

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:55 PM (dgt0l)

169
Romanesco Cauliflower...

I refuse to eat any vegetable that mocks me for my less-than-stellar mathematical skill.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (eXA4G)

170 Okay, that's two, who's gonna be #3 ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM (bwo3w)

Notorious RBG
Nanzi
Gunt
ChiFiDi
Bernie
Hills

Posted by: Fox2! at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (MwFQu)

171 Duncanthrax, I just buy whole ducks and remove the breasts and grill them. Cook up the rest of the duck and make enchiladas in blue corn tortillas.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM

They sell whole ducks, too.

Have you ever thought of serving your duck enchilada mix over quackers?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (DMUuz)

172 Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck? Whole or parts, it doesn't matter.
Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (T6t7i)
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I've gotten whole frozen ones at Costco, but for fresh, I don't know.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (aXucN)

173 Are those tacos al pastor? I could eat a mountain of them right now.

Posted by: t-bird at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (Ry8mf)

174 Lopez-Alt is a scumbag SJW who said he wanted to toss Trump supporters out of his restaurant.

That's why I don't link to his site any more!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (wYseH)

175 151 Kale, quinoa and soy. The Unholy Trinity of vegan hipsterfag cuisine.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:52 PM (NWiLs)

Lol..#quadthrouple

+Tofu.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'its an eating disorder!' at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (dMR4T)

176 I found out that my twee little hometowne has an excelsior cheese shoppe and I purchased Red Lester and Stilton. The cheese lady/pusher introduced me to putting a dollop of lemon curd atop Stilton and it was revelatory.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (Dc2NZ)

177 Are those tacos al pastor? I could eat a mountain of them right now.
Posted by: t-bird at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (Ry8mf)
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Right? I hope he hand-made his tortillas.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (aXucN)

178 Back in the day, the only way i could get my two young ones to eat green was to bury them (the greens) in melted cheese.

Mac ncheese and broccoli or peas. Worked for a while the the younger told me one day 'i cant eat broccoli if its touching my mac n cheese'...

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (K+jdV)

179 >>We ate at a friend's house last night and they made short rib chili from that book. It was fantastic.
Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (aXucN)

That book is excellent.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (XzT/D)

180 173 Are those tacos al pastor? I could eat a mountain of them right now.
Posted by: t-bird at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (Ry8mf)

Well they ain't tacos al rabbi.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (NWiLs)

181 artisanal'ette, I asked because I saw some in HEB and they were skimpiest things . Cooking them would have turned them into jerky.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (u482j)

182 7 Can't find an artichoke dip recipe in the DG. Am I missing it?

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 04:06 PM (dgt0l)

I have one...I'll post the recipe. It's a hot one though.

But...Walmart has a kickass one believe it or not. It's like crack! It's usually near the deli and the brand is 'Marketside' but it's artichoke/spinach dip.

1 15 1/2 oz. can artichoke hearts, cut fine.
1 8 oz. pkg. cream cheese
1/2 cup mayonnaise
1/2 cup Fresh Parmesan cheese
4 oz. Shredded mozzarella
Garlic to taste...which for me mean A LOT.

Mix it all together and put in buttered casserole dish. Bake at 350 degrees for 15-20 mins.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2019 04:58 PM (cF8AT)

183 Lopez-Alt is a scumbag SJW who said he wanted to toss Trump supporters out of his restaurant.

That's why I don't link to his site any more!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (wYseH)
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Oh no! He's THAT guy? Bummer. Because it really was good chili.

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:58 PM (aXucN)

184 Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck? Whole or parts, it doesn't matter.
Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (T6t7i)

I'm lucky my local grocer sells fresh duck, but they only put out so many and they do not restock consistently. But due to the french dishes made in my area a lot (like cassoulet), it is readily available. Also, the butcher here and a local private family owned butcher nearby will order whatever you like. Even the fish monger in my local grocer gave me his card if I wanted to do custom orders. I'm sick of trying to buy fresh fish without being able to sniff them all!

I read recently on a professional chef blog that many are opting for frozen seafood because it is flash frozen so quickly (and cleanly) that you get very good seafood as a result, compared to the guessing game in the stores.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 04:58 PM (vEIlU)

185 >>174 Lopez-Alt is a scumbag SJW who said he wanted to toss Trump supporters out of his restaurant. Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 04:56 PM (wYseH)

You're not eating well.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 04:58 PM (XzT/D)

186 I've never sucked egg of the counter, but tequila, vodka, bourbon...blah blah..yeah.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'its an eating disorder!' at October 27, 2019 04:58 PM (dMR4T)

187 I purchased Red Lester and Stilton.

Oh God my mom loved Stilton. It smelled so horrible I could never bring myself to eat it.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 27, 2019 04:59 PM (dUJdY)

188 I like to tweak my hipster son by pronouncing quinoa as kwin-noah.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Snowiest of Snowflakes at October 27, 2019 04:59 PM (x8Wzq)

189 Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck? Whole or parts,
it doesn't matter.

Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (T6t7i)

Organic Butcher in McLean has both whole and parts (and bacon, and duck fat).

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 04:59 PM (Yeuu4)

190 188 I like to tweak my hipster son by pronouncing quinoa as kwin-noah.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Snowiest of Snowflakes at October 27, 2019 04:59 PM (x8Wzq)

Pisses them off something fierce. It's like you've insulted one of their deities.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (NWiLs)

191 > How could you possibly forget cilantro?
I often "forget" to add cilantro, in much the same way that I often "forget" to add high-level nuclear waste or anthrax bacteria.

Yeah, I'm one of those. That leaves more bugs mixed with dish soap for the rest of you!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (Do2h6)

192 artisanal'ette, I asked because I saw some in HEB and they were skimpiest things . Cooking them would have turned them into jerky.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (u482j)

Ah. Mine were large. I only ate half a breast and saved half for the next night. I made 3 breasts because my hubby will eat a whole one.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (vEIlU)

193 I love the look of that Romanesco cauliflower, but haven't tried it. Not a huge fan of cauliflower in general, but we've had a couple of cauli gratins lately and they are acceptable.

I've had a massive carb day, because a cool, gray, autumn day requires baking smells to make it perfect. So, biscuits, and apple pie. And I'm making chili soup.

It can't really be called chili, because it's vegetable soup (with carrots!!) and chili seasonings, so...chili soup. Don't hate me.

Posted by: April at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (OX9vb)

194 Tami- that sounds yummy. I have a chunk of smoked mozz and creme cheese in the fridge.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (dgt0l)

195 Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (0tmoY)

It's more cost-effective to import Italians.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (Dc2NZ)

196 105
Round hard candies are another choking risk. Ever noticed that Life Savers have a hole in the center? Could save some drama.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (BVQ+1)

It may be an urban legend, but I think that's exactly how they got their name.

Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (j/R1H)

197 Instead of Liquid Smoke, have yo tried using one of the Smoking Guns, or Instant Smokers? For light smoking, they are great!

Posted by: chefwes_tx at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (JgxAz)

198 >>Oh no! He's THAT guy? Bummer. Because it really was good chili. Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:58 PM (aXucN)

Silly. He said it was a bad idea on his part, and quickly reversed his own ridiculous decision.

Sometimes adults do that.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (XzT/D)

199 Okay, that's two, who's gonna be #3 ?
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 04:48 PM (bwo3w)

Since it's the Food Thread, peanuts.

Jimmah's going next.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (Z+IKu)

200 > I like to tweak my hipster son by pronouncing quinoa as kwin-noah.

Make sure to mention that the tribe in South America that used to live off that stuff is now starving to death because it's all being exported to feed privileged commies in the United States.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (Do2h6)

201 196 105
Round hard candies are another choking risk. Ever noticed that Life Savers have a hole in the center? Could save some drama.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (BVQ+1)

It may be an urban legend, but I think that's exactly how they got their name.
Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (j/R1H)

I thought it was because they were shaped like life preservers.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (NWiLs)

202
Pisses them off something fierce. It's like you've insulted one of their deities.
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (NWiLs)

All in all my son is a fine young man, but yeah, he gets sniffy about certain things. Like when I say anything bad about the Mary Sue chick in Soy Wars.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Snowiest of Snowflakes at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (x8Wzq)

203 Our son gave us a sous vide machine a few years ago and we love it. Frozen steaks swim in a 130 degree jacuzzi for 75-90 minutes (or more) and come out perfectly done. All they need is a little seasoning and a quick sear.
That's plenty of time for sides, sauces and cocktails.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 27, 2019 05:02 PM (dH/BH)

204 >>196 105 Round hard candies are another choking risk. Ever noticed that Life Savers have a hole in the center? Could save some drama.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (BVQ+1)

Same reason Bic pen-caps have a hole in the top.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:02 PM (XzT/D)

205
Back in the day, the only way i could get my two young ones to eat green was to bury them (the greens) in melted cheese.

Mac ncheese and broccoli or peas. Worked for a while the the younger told me one day 'i cant eat broccoli if its touching my mac n cheese'...
Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 04:57 PM (K+jdV)

Dad cured me of that by telling me "sit there until you eat your vegetables", and like a dumbass I thought I could out-wait him. Heh. A couple of hours sitting at the dining room table was revelatory.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2019 05:02 PM (eXA4G)

206 Last pic reminds me of the Mandelbrot Set.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Snowiest of Snowflakes at October 27, 2019 05:02 PM (x8Wzq)

207 All in all my son is a fine young man, but yeah, he gets sniffy about certain things. Like when I say anything bad about the Mary Sue chick in Soy Wars.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Snowiest of Snowflakes at October 27, 2019 05:01 PM (x8Wzq)

Heh.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:02 PM (NWiLs)

208 Dammit, missed a bunch of the food thread watching the shit Bears lose again. My 94 year old aunt asked me to go so I did as I was told. Pulled pork, chili and wings for the game and my aunt always pulls me on the side to talk Trump, so it was fun in spite of the loser Bears.

Posted by: dartist at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (K22Va)

209 Trick or treat here in my mom's town. Is it wrong to give out the stuff I don't like?

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Z/jzm)

210 Bottle of Whisky sells for $1.9 million?

No. A bottle of Scotch sold for 1.9 mil.

Posted by: Bea Arthur's Dick at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (jWe5r)

211 Kale, quinoa and soy. The Unholy Trinity of vegan hipsterfag cuisine. Posted by: Insomniac

Oh Noz, we have quinoa often, it's not too bad.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (ZCEU2)

212 It may be an urban legend, but I think that's exactly how they got their name.

It's because they are shaped like a life preserver.

Posted by: Jewells45 at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (dUJdY)

213 209 Trick or treat here in my mom's town. Is it wrong to give out the stuff I don't like?
Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Z/jzm)

You give out trick or treaters?

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (NWiLs)

214 194 Tami- that sounds yummy. I have a chunk of smoked mozz and creme cheese in the fridge.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:00 PM (dgt0l)

It's very good. I forgot...I usually add some S & P. And still it about half way through.

Posted by: Tami at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (cF8AT)

215 > Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck?
Chinese restaurants usually serve duck, even in parts of the country where it's not common fare in other restaurants.
You might ask the folks at your favorite Chinese place where they get theirs.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Do2h6)

216 I read this week some news about Italian cheesemakers getting upset about the new US Tariffs on imported cheese. Got me thinking, how good is American-made cheese? Not American Cheese, but the artisanal cheese market? Then I ran across this video, and I thought the Horde would like to see it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HXFHul4wyDw
Posted by: Nancy at 7000 ft at October 27, 2019 04:53 PM (0tmoY)

Thanks for the link.

The US makes fantastic cheese.

Even award winning goat cheese.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:04 PM (vEIlU)

217 >>You give out trick or treaters?
Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (NWiLs)

Ha!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:04 PM (Z/jzm)

218 Trick or treat here in my mom's town. Is it wrong to give out the stuff I don't like?

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Z/jzm)

Absolutely not.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:05 PM (Yeuu4)

219 >>You might ask the folks at your favorite Chinese place where they get theirs.

In our town we called it 'The Duck Pond'.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 05:05 PM (7OmVm)

220 Because of their superior flavor, I think they are best just steamed with a little butter, salt and maybe some pepper.

Posted by: KTbarthedoor at October 27, 2019 04:33 PM (BVQ+1)
100% on that. The flavor is so delicate it would get drowned, where broccoli or cauliflower has its own pungence that stands up to cheese or stir fry sauces. People that aren't keen on broccoli or cauliflower should give this stuff a whirl.
My Hawaiian friends do Kalua pig in slow cookers with decent results. Sprinkle pork butt/shoulder with liquid smoke, s/p, some sliced fruit like papaya and wrap in banana or ti leaves, and cook slow all day. Not quite the same as buried whole pig, but very different from my smoked stuff. Think the papaya or mango or pineapple makes a huge difference in texture.
Then again they eat Spam sushi and hamburger patties with gravy on rice, so maybe not the best people to rely on for a lot of recipes.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:05 PM (Z1ykJ)

221 I may have some leftover, slow going so far.

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:05 PM (Z/jzm)

222 OMG. Just found unopened 3# pckg of bacon in frig that "expired" 5 days ago. I'm embarrassed. Gonna bake in oven right now. 1/2 plain. 1/2 Millionaires bacon (Brown sugar, black pepper, cayenne.)

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 05:05 PM (Dhht7)

223 Trick or treat here in my mom's town. Is it wrong to give out the stuff I don't like?

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Z/jzm)
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Only if it's kale or licorice Necco wafers.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (Dc2NZ)

224 Pronounced kwy-noah here at Chateau D'Eez.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (bwo3w)

225 That Romanesco is the most fractal plant I've ever seen. I wouldn't want to cook it as much as photograph it!

Posted by: Taqiyyologist at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (upfer)

226 >>215 > Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck?

Zod. (Checks the Wingmaster, waders, MD non-resident license). In about a month or so.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (XzT/D)

227 Chinese restaurants usually serve duck, even in parts of the country where it's not common fare in other restaurants.
You might ask the folks at your favorite Chinese place where they get theirs.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Do2h6)

That's a good idea. There are plenty of Chinese places in NoVa that serve Peking duck.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (Yeuu4)

228 > The US makes fantastic cheese.

Yes. We also make first-quality wine, bread, and beer.
Euros and Eurofellators who pretend otherwise are just snobs operating on 50 year out of date information.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (Do2h6)

229 The best duck breasts I've encountered are from Liberty Ducks in Sonoma County.

Order today, and they'll ship them pre-grilled.

Posted by: the Sonoma County wildfires at October 27, 2019 05:07 PM (P1f+c)

230 Duck really isn't at it's best if it's doesn't have a little buckshot left in it.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:07 PM (u482j)

231 >>228 > The US makes fantastic cheese.

This is correct.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:07 PM (XzT/D)

232 You might ask the folks at your favorite Chinese place where they get theirs.

Excellent idea. Thanks. And also to the rest of you who responded.

I tried Costco duck once, but was less than impressed. It could well have been me cooking it badly, though.
I rarely get over to McLean anymore, despite having grown up there. I might try a butcher in Springfield. It's closer.

Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 05:08 PM (T6t7i)

233 I didn't get candy this year, haven't had a treater in at least 10 years, but do have a stack of Tastykake pies in case.

olddog there has to be enough salt in it to last another month

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 05:08 PM (ZCEU2)

234 So John Conyers has slipped the surly bonds.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 27, 2019 05:08 PM (sWM8x)

235 Trick or treat is pretty much dead around here. Hardly anyone comes to the door anymore. It's all fall festivals and trunk or treat. Life, which was never all that great to begin with, is becoming less and less fun.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (NWiLs)

236 > So John Conyers has slipped the surly bonds.
That's two. Who's next? Maxine Waters?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (Do2h6)

237 >>234 So John Conyers has slipped the surly bonds.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 27, 2019 05:08 PM (sWM8x)

...and touched the face...of Zod.

(washes face).

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (XzT/D)

238 My $17 bottle of four roses bourbon is passable fuck spending $100 let alone 100s of thousands.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (0OmEj)

239 Correct me if i am wrong but there near a dozen contributors to serious eats.

Its unclear to me if kenji runs the site.

The site does not say

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (K+jdV)

240 Conyers is moving to Chicago?

Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 05:11 PM (RuIsu)

241 Wow. Krystol did a self-immolation on Twitter, today. The Mr. Principles one just "joked" that John Kelley and Jim Mattis could get enough generals together to perform a military coup.

Posted by: Axeman at October 27, 2019 05:11 PM (Fq70R)

242 Awesome. He will be delighted.
Posted by: bluebell

Like a Californian ?

Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 05:12 PM (arJlL)

243 I read that "10 deadliest" article. It said Elderberry is not commercially cultivated in the States.

There's a guy less than 5 miles from here that has over an acre of the stuff. It's all planted in rows so it's definitely cultivated.

Talked to his wife one day and she said that it took them 8 years to grow that much Elder. And they mow it down every year and it just pops back up.

Posted by: Ex-ex at October 27, 2019 05:12 PM (RU4sa)

244 Conyers is moving to Chicago?
Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 05:11 PM (RuIsu)
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One of the reasons I just left.

Posted by: Jesus at October 27, 2019 05:12 PM (Fq70R)

245 >>239 Correct me if i am wrong but there near a dozen contributors to serious eats. Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (K+jdV)

I think he's a honcho there, though he has a wurst restaurant out in CA now, so he may be contributing less (I think he got his start with Cooks Illustrated). Others there are also really good.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:12 PM (XzT/D)

246 The village holds a fall festival over the weekend ending with a costume parade then trick or treating. Amazing how the kids don't come to the door, homeowners are sitting outside. Good thing it's nice out!

Posted by: My life is insanity at October 27, 2019 05:12 PM (Z/jzm)

247 2nd Amendment times2 in Texas

Posted by: Kurt at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (PoQg2)

248 Hot dogs really are a choking risk for little kids. Split them down the middle before serving.

Then ya can choke TWO kids !

Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (arJlL)

249 I'm going to spam the thread with some news.

rancherbob not only cooks a fantastic cabrito but he is the new Reserve World Champion at the SHOT event this weekend.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (u482j)

250 Bill Kristol is living Oscar Wilde's maxim: The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.

Hmm.

Bill Kristol. Oscar Wilde.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:14 PM (XzT/D)

251 249 I'm going to spam the thread with some news.

rancherbob not only cooks a fantastic cabrito but he is the new Reserve World Champion at the SHOT event this weekend.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (u482j)
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NICE!! Congratulations Rancher Bob!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 05:14 PM (MVjcR)

252 Ben Had

Lost half a molar because of shot while savoring grilled dove a dozen or so years ago

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:14 PM (K+jdV)

253 .slurping up egg from the counter-top.

Some jobs need a dog.

Posted by: DaveA at October 27, 2019 05:15 PM (FhXTo)

254 The US makes fantastic cheese.

Yes. We also make first-quality wine, bread, and beer.
Euros and Eurofellators who pretend otherwise are just snobs operating on 50 year out of date information.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:06 PM (Do2h6)

Sure do.
But I do buy stuff from all over the world. It depends what I'm looking for and like variety.

Chocolate is one good example.
I will buy Hawaiian coffee (I love Kona), but like most coffee, abroad.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:15 PM (vEIlU)

255 rancherbob not only cooks a fantastic cabrito but he is the new Reserve World Champion at the SHOT event this weekend.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (u482j)
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Great news!

Posted by: Ex-ex at October 27, 2019 05:15 PM (RU4sa)

256 "Pork butt" is my wife's fond nickname for me.

Posted by: Caliban at October 27, 2019 05:16 PM (QE8X6)

257 Our son gave us a sous vide machine a few years ago
and we love it. Frozen steaks swim in a 130 degree jacuzzi for 75-90
minutes (or more) and come out perfectly done. All they need is a little
seasoning and a quick sear.

That's plenty of time for sides, sauces and cocktails.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 27, 2019 05:02 PM (dH/BH)

I know when I learned these things existed in restaurants 30 some odd years ago, I felt vindicated because I knew those perfect filet mignons were somehow cooked before they were grilled, but had no idea how. Awesome they've got consumer versions now.

I emulate the slow-cook on my pellet smoker by smoking on low (150-160) for about 60 minutes and then tossing on the sear box to grill. Oak/pecan is especially amazing if just sp, fruitwood is a lot more subtle if you're wanting to do an herbed butter or other toppings. Absolutely, perfectly, evenly cooked all the way through.

Love this smoker, I've had more tri tip this summer than I've had in the past 10 years.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:17 PM (Z1ykJ)

258 Lost half a molar because of shot while savoring grilled dove a dozen or so years ago
Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:14 PM (K+jdV)

As a kid I used to go dove hunting with my dad. I don't think I ever shot one but I was responsible for plucking feathers and picking shot out of the hundreds he bagged.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 05:17 PM (aS1PU)

259 >>Some jobs need a dog.
Posted by: DaveA at October 27, 2019 05:15 PM (FhXTo)

Too right. Speaking as a dog owner, that's some fucking wisdom right there. (Looks at slumbering, slobbering, farting Canis Zod).

And some damn dogs need a job.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:17 PM (XzT/D)

260 My favorite cheeses are Tillamook. Best sharp cheddar I've ever had, at least from a large producer. I'm sure a dozen people would counter with their favorite local cheese, but that's cool.

They make excellent ice cream too.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pallid Knight at October 27, 2019 05:19 PM (x8Wzq)

261 Zod's favorite cheddar is Zod's cheddar.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:20 PM (XzT/D)

262 Welp. YUGE disappointment. Got to our friends' and Salena cancelled. Our friend hasn't been well and didn't get in touch with all the invitees. He felt awful for not letting us know. Says he hopes she'll be back in April.

Meanwhile, Kim Strassel and her family are coming in November as houseguests.

So we're sitting at the club bar watching an otter playing in the water.

Surprise otter!

Posted by: Jane D'oh at October 27, 2019 05:21 PM (9J3CW)

263 So John Conyers has slipped the surly bonds.
That's two. Who's next? Maxine Waters?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:10 PM (Do2h6)

He couldn't do anymore work for Satan in congress after "retiring", so he got his chips cashed in.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:21 PM (Z1ykJ)

264 As a kid I used to go dove hunting with my dad. I don't think I ever shot one but I was responsible for plucking feathers and picking shot out of the hundreds he bagged.
Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 05:17 PM (aS1PU)

I really want to work up a "pheasant-plucker's son" riff here, but I'm just not feeling it right now. Apologies.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:21 PM (t+qrx)

265 >>> 249 I'm going to spam the thread with some news.

rancherbob not only cooks a fantastic cabrito but he is the new Reserve World Champion at the SHOT event this weekend.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (u482j)

Congratulations rancherbob!

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 27, 2019 05:21 PM (0ReGO)

266 When does the bouzouki player show up?

Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 05:21 PM (RuIsu)

267 My sweet adorable service dog in training ate my glasses this morning. Shithead is sleeping at my feet now. Grrrrr. Working dogs can be little shits too. Dogs? What you going to do...

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at October 27, 2019 05:22 PM (0OmEj)

268 So John Conyers has slipped the surly bonds.
That's two. Who's next? Maxine Waters?
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia

Grrrrlllll Power!

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:23 PM (dgt0l)

269 Does anyone here in NoVa know of a good source for duck? Whole or parts, it doesn't matter.
Posted by: pep at October 27, 2019 04:54 PM (T6t7i)

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I live in Ashburn, VA. Wegmans sells D'Artagnan brand uncooked duck breasts which are way too expensive IMO. I buy whole frozen duck from Korean Lotte Grocery store. I sometimes see whole ducks at Harris Teeter and Costco sells cooked smoked ducks.

Posted by: Oggi at October 27, 2019 05:23 PM (Bk5Q+)

270 DR.WTF, that was my job too.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:23 PM (u482j)

271 Zod back when: "So, do y'all pluck geese?"
Old-Line-State oldtimer: "No, just breast 'em out and throw the rest back in. This is Murlin. Geese are like rats here, son."

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:23 PM (XzT/D)

272 Zod back when: "So, do y'all pluck geese?"
Old-Line-State oldtimer: "No, just breast 'em out and throw the rest back in. This is Murlin. Geese are like rats here, son."
Posted by: Zod

Does that mean they breast out the rats in B'more ?

Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (arJlL)

273 It's snowing here today -- well sort of; it's supposed to get more active this evening -- so I'm making broccoli cheese soup and will supplement with a pepper bacon avocado and tomato salad.

You can never go wrong by adding bacon to a meal.

Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (0ReGO)

274 45 Found my coffee maker! Thank God.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 04:15 PM (Dc2NZ)
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HOW HAVE YOU BEEN LIVING

Posted by: bluebell - get a conservative sample Ffx Cty ballot here! at October 27, 2019 04:21 PM (aXucN)

I second this, although I have already seen the answer!!

How is retirement Eris? Frankly, we are busier than we were before, but it's (mostly) on our terms. Abner has the biggest say on our schedule these days.

Posted by: Moki at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (mFoNl)

275 241 Wow. Krystol did a self-immolation on Twitter, today. The Mr. Principles one just "joked" that John Kelley and Jim Mattis could get enough generals together to perform a military coup.
Posted by: Axeman at October 27, 2019 05:11 PM (Fq70R)

He seems to be blissfully unaware that there have been many times and places in history where he could have been imprisoned, tortured, or killed just for joking about something like that.

Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (j/R1H)

276 rancherbob not only cooks a fantastic cabrito but he is the new Reserve World Champion at the SHOT event this weekend.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (u482j)

Do you have a link for this?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:26 PM (vEIlU)

277 My favorite cheeses are Tillamook. Best sharp
cheddar I've ever had, at least from a large producer...
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pallid Knight at October 27, 2019 05:19 PM (x8Wzq)

I went to college at U of O for a bit, I literally lived on Tillamook sharp and bagels. But a little further north, man oh man.

Cougar Cheese is the sh*t, and even stranger it comes in a can. They do special editions that sell out nearly instantly. Highly recommended. I've had better, but nothing comes to mind as quickly. Strange, but true.

https://creamery.wsu.edu/cougar-cheese/

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:26 PM (Z1ykJ)

278 273 It's snowing here today -- well sort of; it's supposed to get more active this evening -- so I'm making broccoli cheese soup and will supplement with a pepper bacon avocado and tomato salad.

You can never go wrong by adding bacon to a meal.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (0ReG

Nope. Bacon makes every vegetarian dish just a little bit better.

I also incredibly jealous of your snow. It's 75 degrees here, and we had to turn on the AC because the house is stifling. It's almost November, for gosh' sake, and we are having Texas style weather up here.

Posted by: Moki at October 27, 2019 05:27 PM (mFoNl)

279 Love this smoker, I've had more tri tip this summer than I've had in the past 10 years.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:17 PM (Z1ykJ)

I'm jealous! We only have a small smoker box that needs constant tending. I slow roasted a huge Costco tri tip in the oven once and it made great bbq sammiches, tamales, taquitos and chili. Would've been awesome smoked.

Posted by: OldDominionMom at October 27, 2019 05:27 PM (dH/BH)

280 >>Does that mean they breast out the rats in B'more ? Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (arJlL)

We should be so lucky. Ballmer ridded of native mutants "in slippas and curlas," ready-made urban shithole for Somali immigrants.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:27 PM (XzT/D)

281 artisanal'ette, The results will be up at the Stock Horse of Texas website in a couple of days.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:28 PM (u482j)

282 Cougar Cheese is the sh*t, and even stranger it comes in a can. They do special editions that sell out nearly instantly. Highly recommended. I've had better, but nothing comes to mind as quickly. Strange, but true.

Getting the milk is hazardous business.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (NWiLs)

283 It's snowing here today -- well sort of; it's supposed to get more active this evening -- so I'm making broccoli cheese soup and will supplement with a pepper bacon avocado and tomato salad.

You can never go wrong by adding bacon to a meal.
Posted by: Helena Handbasket at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (0ReGO)

Aggg that sounds really good right now. It isn't snowing here, but I think I might have an impending flu or something. Craving greek salad vice the avocado, even without the bacon.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (t+qrx)

284 https://worldfoodchampionships.com/talent

?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (vEIlU)

285

Conyers is mort?

What stupidity or corruption is he famous for, again?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (/UFpF)

286 Anyone here have experience with Traeger pellet smokers?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (uDh3k)

287 >>What stupidity or corruption is he famous for, again? Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (/UFpF)

Dessicated corpse suit-model.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:30 PM (XzT/D)

288 artisanal'ette, The results will be up at the Stock Horse of Texas website in a couple of days.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:28 PM (u482j)

thanks!

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:30 PM (vEIlU)

289 Does that mean they breast out the rats in B'more ?
Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM

Way more meat on the hams.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 05:31 PM (DMUuz)

290 Mexican sounds awesome.

Posted by: Aw Shucks at October 27, 2019 05:32 PM (Bf3hj)

291 artisanal'ette, The Championship was with his horse.

The cabrito was at the MoMe.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:32 PM (u482j)

292 Anyone here have experience with Traeger pellet smokers?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM

I have two. What'cha want to know?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 05:32 PM (DMUuz)

293
How'd the skin come out crispy if bacon wrapped?
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 04:40 PM (Dhht7)
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More accurately, where the skin wasn't covered by bacon was crispy.

Bacon was good and crispy, too.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 05:33 PM (WEBkv)

294 What stupidity or corruption is he famous for, again?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile

John "Guam may tip over" Conyers.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:33 PM (dgt0l)

295 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:34 PM (1XAal)

296 DR.WTF, that was my job too.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:23 PM (u482j)

Fun huh.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 05:34 PM (aS1PU)

297 Maud'dib, I think Nurse ratched does.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:34 PM (u482j)

298 Cougar Cheese is the sh*t, and even stranger it comes in a can.

Posted by: Insomniac at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (NWiLs)
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(Against my inner voice to not inflict bizarre puns on others) Well, I'm in the John Couger Melon camp, myself.

Posted by: Jesus at October 27, 2019 05:34 PM (Fq70R)

299 Boneless?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (LxTcq)

300 >
I have two. What'cha want to know?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 05:32 PM (DMUuz)

How do you like them? Does either one have the controller that allows you to program for specific temps?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (uDh3k)

301 Buddy of mine has a Traeger and loves it.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (7OmVm)

302 Anyone here have experience with Traeger pellet smokers?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM

I have two. What'cha want to know?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 05:32 PM (DMUuz)
And I have a Camp Chef, which was started by Traeger people. Can't say enough good things about these things.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (Z1ykJ)

303 I really want to work up a "pheasant-plucker's son" riff here, but I'm just not feeling it right now.

**********

Allow me:

Quit Yer Grousin' - a limerick

A game bird sou chef named Zucker
A turkey, partridge, quail and duck mucker
Through the grease and guts and bile
Zucker always had a smile
You might say he was just a pheasant plucker

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (mvenn)

304 artisanal'ette, The Championship was with his horse.

The cabrito was at the MoMe.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:32 PM (u482j)

gotcha, thx

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (vEIlU)

305 >>John "Guam may tip over" Conyers.
Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:33 PM (dgt0l)

I thought that was the "piercing, unassailable genius formerly known as" Hank Johnson, D-Ga.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (XzT/D)

306 Anyone here have experience with Traeger pellet smokers?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (uDh3k)

Traeger is facing a class action suit about the content of its wood pellets.

Previously they sued the ex-owner of the company they bought out because he had the temerity to start another company and put his name and face on the side of the pole building they were building smokers in.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (fqM2k)

307 John "Guam may tip over" Conyers.
Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:33 PM (dgt0l)

That's Hank Johnson.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (t+qrx)

308 DR. WTF, It really was because I got to spend more time with my brother.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (u482j)

309 When did you figure out that pink tacos were not really food but something else ??

??

People can be so something .......

Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (1XAal)

310 Traeger grill

Next door nieghbor has one and it looks effortless. Im old school but im thinkin bout it

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (K+jdV)

311 Anyone here have experience with Traeger pellet smokers?

Posted by: Muad'dib
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I have a Pit Boss, which I think is similar, but maybe not as precise temp control.

I actually came here to ask those with pellet smokers - how do you really drive the smoke into the meat when smoking pork butts? I get a nice deep bark, but interior always seems unsmoked. I normally go about 175 for hours and hours.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (8AONa)

312 Conyers is mort?

What stupidity or corruption is he famous for, again?

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 27, 2019 05:29 PM (/UFpF)

A number of sexual harassment claims from female staff members that eventually led him to resign in 2017.
His much-younger wife (as in 36-year age difference) served some time in the slammer for corruption during her time the Detroit City Council.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:37 PM (Yeuu4)

313 241 Seems all it takes to try are a CIA and FBI Directors and a few minions

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 05:37 PM (ZCEU2)

314 DR. WTF, It really was because I got to spend more time with my brother.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (u482j)

It was just me, the dead doves, and the garbage can.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 05:37 PM (aS1PU)

315 This just in: Democrats are livid that Trump would use the funding of the military to force Baghdadi, a foreign national, to interfere in our elections by dying.

Posted by: Axeman at October 27, 2019 05:37 PM (Fq70R)

316 >>His much-younger wife (as in 36-year age difference) Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:37 PM (Yeuu4)

Props, playa.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:38 PM (XzT/D)

317 John "Guam may tip over" Conyers.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:33 PM (dgt0l)

Wrong guy. Guam guy was Hank Johnson from Georgia.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:38 PM (Yeuu4)

318
I thought that was the "piercing, unassailable genius formerly known as" Hank Johnson, D-Ga.
Posted by: Zod

You may be right. The stupidity seems to all blend together.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 05:39 PM (dgt0l)

319 Props, playa.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:38 PM (XzT/D)

When they got married, he was 61 and she was 25.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:39 PM (Yeuu4)

320 What mutha fooker decided to call it horse raddish ????

I do not think horses will eat it

Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (1XAal)

321

Al-Baghdadi's last meal? Dirt.

Alright, bon appetit y'all. Time to get dinner started.

As an aside, we won a car in a raffle this weekend. lol - sunny news during this crazy rainy weekend. A beemer that we'll sell because we don't need it.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (vEIlU)

322 His much-younger wife (as in 36-year age difference) served some time in the slammer for corruption during her time the Detroit City Council.
Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:37 PM (Yeuu4)

Because doing so is a requirement to serve on the Detroit City Council, specifically.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (t+qrx)

323 My Traeger pellet grill/smoker has a temperature select knob at about 25 degree increments from low smoke (~160) up to hot grilling (~450) . The pellet auger feeds pellets to maintain constant set temp.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (mvenn)

324 >>interior always seems unsmoked. I normally go about 175 for hours and hours.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:36 PM (8AONa)

Strictly speaking, the interior--unless you're using a very slender cut of whatever--won't be "smoked." The 'smoke ring'--that pinkish layer between the bark and the cooked interior--only penetrates about 1/8".

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (XzT/D)

325 Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:26 PM (Z1ykJ)

Heard really good things about Cougar cheese, mostly here. Need to acquire some.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pallid Knight at October 27, 2019 05:41 PM (x8Wzq)

326 >>When they got married, he was 61 and she was 25. Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:39 PM (Yeuu4)

He was too old to fuck.

She was too young to know the difference.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:41 PM (XzT/D)

327 Who is scheduled to get Conyers' seat? Does it go to the wife or is it a shoot-out?

Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 05:42 PM (RuIsu)

328
You might ask the folks at your favorite Chinese place where they get theirs.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 05:03 PM (Do2h6)

At the local Smart & Final or similar supply, like any sane restaurateur.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 27, 2019 05:42 PM (eXA4G)

329 >>He was too old to fuck.

Ahem.

That should be amended to read "he was too old to care about impressing."

Carry on.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:43 PM (XzT/D)

330 327 Who is scheduled to get Conyers' seat? Does it go to the wife or is it a shoot-out?
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He wasn't currently in office. He resigned rather than face his #metoo charges.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 27, 2019 05:44 PM (sWM8x)

331 How do you like them? Does either one have the controller that allows you to program for specific temps?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM (uDh3k)

Newest Traeger have bluetooth, which is a bit much for my needs (but all the rage). Don't cook from work too much.
I'll outline the reason I took the Camp Chef - and I have a buddy that rep'd Traeger for 30 years.

1) I liked the build a bit more (the new Traegers are a bit different). The Traeger had a slanted leg set with a cross member, and I'd bang my knees moving it. Some of the flaws with the Traeger were addressed in the Camp Chef. Such as being able to purge the pellet bin and put in new pellets easily (flavor change). Also, there's access to the ash/heating unit, so you can simply open up the bottom and clean the ash out. The Traeger you've got to take the grate off, the deflector off, and then vacuum the thing out every 3 cookings or so. (this may have been addressed by Traeger, but not as of 201

.

2) Most importantly, the Camp Chef has what they call a sear box - either comes with unit or can be purchased at a later date. This replaces the side table, and is basically a tiny grill, so you can sear your meat at 900 degrees. The problem I have with most pellet grills is you can't really grill/sear the meat. They only go up to 400 or so degrees, you're basically baking your sear. Not the same. You can't just cook freaking hamburgers, or sausage. Now, I smoke a tri tip, then throw on to sear. HUGE difference.
3) Both have incredibly stable temperature settings, probes (usually 2) for internal temperature, and a variety of settings. Mine goes slow smoke (160 and 220) then 200, 225, 250, 275, 300 etc. and puts out less smoke than the smoke settings.
I'd assume the new gen Traeger with bluetooth (other companies also have this) have other cool features if you're into this. I tend to just put the meat on and hang out. The pellet hopper holds enough for 10-12 hours worth of smoking.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:44 PM (Z1ykJ)

332 Strictly speaking, the interior--unless you're using a very slender cut of whatever--won't be "smoked." The 'smoke ring'--that pinkish layer between the bark and the cooked interior--only penetrates about 1/8".
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (XzT/D)
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Yep.

I get a pretty good smoke ring with my pellet grill, but, normally don't smoke for more than an hour or two before turning the heat up.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 05:44 PM (WEBkv)

333 Strictly speaking, the interior--unless you're using
a very slender cut of whatever--won't be "smoked." The 'smoke
ring'--that pinkish layer between the bark and the cooked interior--only
penetrates about 1/8".

Posted by: Zod

=====
A follow-up question, if I may be so bold -
Do the smokehouse restaurants 'cheat' or do the cooking differently?

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (8AONa)

334 Who is scheduled to get Conyers' seat? Does it go to the wife or is it a shoot-out?

*******

Apparently he retired from Congress in 2017. So his passing does not create an open seat.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (mvenn)

335 My favorite cheeses are Tillamook. Best sharp

cheddar I've ever had, at least from a large producer...

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pallid Knight at October 27, 2019 05:19 PM (x8Wzq)

My favorite is the extra sharp cheddar. I can cut it off in slices, slam it on a cracker and chow down.

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (u5LFV)

336 Who is scheduled to get Conyers' seat? Does it go to the wife or is it a shoot-out?

He was retired. Wiki says his seat is currently held by Brenda Jones.

Posted by: St. Humid the Incontinent at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (7s3Gx)

337

Making a paella w all seafood. And tasso

Cooked on a grill so it will have some smokiness too it.

I been on a paella kick lately.

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (K+jdV)

338 Conyers was the guy who would drop his pants in the elevator? Or was that another guy?

Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (1XAal)

339 He was too old to fuck.

She was too young to know the difference.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:41 PM (XzT/D)

They had two kids.
Who is scheduled to get Conyers' seat? Does it go to the wife or is it a shoot-out?

Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 05:42 PM (RuIsu)

The governor will call a special election. The seat will remain vacant until the election occurs.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:46 PM (Yeuu4)

340 >Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:44 PM (Z1ykJ)

Thank you very much! That is exactly the sort of info I need.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:46 PM (uDh3k)

341 Seems like they would still want to give the seat to his widow. Special rules.

Posted by: klaftern at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (RuIsu)

342 Conyers was the guy who would drop his pants in the elevator? Or was that another guy?

Who can tell anymore...

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (7s3Gx)

343
That's a helluva raffle to win.

Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (/UFpF)

344 OT

If Eastwood or Gibson we're to make a movie about the ISIS raid, who could play PDT?

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (jm1YL)

345 338 Conyers was the guy who would drop his pants in the elevator? Or was that another guy?
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That's probably him. Cokie Roberts said, "Oh, we all knew not to get into an elevator with him."

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (sWM8x)

346 342 Conyers was the guy who would drop his pants in the elevator? Or was that another guy?

Who can tell anymore...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (7s3Gx)
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Is that wrong?

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (MVjcR)

347 Seems like they would still want to give the seat to his widow. Special rules.

DAMNED special rules, seeing the seat is already filled.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (7s3Gx)

348 The governor will call a special election. The seat will remain vacant until the election occurs.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:46 PM (Yeuu4)

I'm an idiot. He was retired, as others have mentioned.
I'll just clarify that if a sitting member of the House of Representatives dies, there will be a special election and the seat will remain vacant until the election occurs.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (Yeuu4)

349 >>A follow-up question, if I may be so bold -
Do the smokehouse restaurants 'cheat' or do the cooking differently? Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (8AONa)

I don't think the legit restaurants do it any differently. Zod's good-ol-boy firewood guy supplies local restaurants, and I've asked him. "Nope, they just buy more, burn more, and do it about the same as you an' me." He's from Murlin. Good guy, but from Murlin. So, maybe he's full of shit.

But probably not.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (XzT/D)

350 If you like sharp Tillamook cheese, get the standard brick, and put it in the back of your fridge for a couple of years.
If you leave it in there for that long it gets sharp.

It may make the fish taste funny thought . . .

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (fqM2k)

351 Conyers was the guy who would drop his pants in the elevator? Or was that another guy?
Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (1XAal)

That was LBJ. Even if it isn't who you were thinking, I'd bet real money LBJ did that and much more.

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (aS1PU)

352 My favorite is the extra sharp cheddar. I can cut it off in slices, slam it on a cracker and chow down.
Posted by: Grannymimi

Granny- Prayers up for you daughter and fam.

Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (arJlL)

353 Conyers was the guy who would drop his pants in the elevator? Or was that another guy?
Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (1XAal)

Yes, that would be the Jeopardy answer for "who was former Rep John Conyers (D-MI)".

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:49 PM (t+qrx)

354 3) Both have incredibly stable temperature settings, probes (usually 2) for internal temperature, and a variety of settings. Mine goes slow smoke (160 and 220) then 200, 225, 250, 275, 300 etc. and puts out less smoke than the smoke settings.
I'd assume the new gen Traeger with bluetooth (other companies also have this) have other cool features if you're into this. I tend to just put the meat on and hang out. The pellet hopper holds enough for 10-12 hours worth of smoking.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:44 PM (Z1ykJ)
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Heh.

I have a Camp Chef also, no sear box, though.

I'm not above putting a good ribeye on the Camp Chef, then, after a bit, moving it to the gas grill to the the sear.

I get some really tasty steaks that way.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 05:49 PM (WEBkv)

355 >>If Eastwood or Gibson we're to make a movie about the ISIS raid, who could play PDT?
Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (jm1YL)

Zombie Lee Van Cleef.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:49 PM (XzT/D)

356 You can bet it wont be alec ballswin

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:50 PM (K+jdV)

357 Strictly speaking, the interior--unless you're using
a very slender cut of whatever--won't be "smoked." The 'smoke
ring'--that pinkish layer between the bark and the cooked interior--only
penetrates about 1/8".

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:40 PM (XzT/D)

This. Typically in a hunk of meat that smoke ring color changes depending on the type of wood you're using. I've also found that if I've brined the meat it might go further in.

Green egg is also an excellent system, but is more hands on. However, for the purist that's a plus. Me? I'm lazy and love nothing more than flicking a switch these days.

Oh, if there's a downside to the pellet grills is they're not quiet. They're not noisy, but the auger motor makes noise, as do the internal fans. So if you're sitting nearby expect to hear a motor running.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:50 PM (Z1ykJ)

358 Is that wrong?

For some reason, I hear Harvey Fierstein's voice right here.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 27, 2019 05:50 PM (7s3Gx)

359 There's a never trust a fart joke in there about Conyers somewhere.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:50 PM (u482j)

360 Happy Birthday, Zod.

Posted by: m at October 27, 2019 05:50 PM (1vjNQ)

361 How is retirement Eris? Frankly, we are busier than we were before, but it's (mostly) on our terms. Abner has the biggest say on our schedule these days.
Posted by: Moki at October 27, 2019 05:25 PM (mFoNl)
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It's pretty freakin' sweet, but I'm only a couple weeks in. My time has been taken up with petty things and I have not come around to activating the Grand Plan yet.

*moves pieces around world map*

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at October 27, 2019 05:51 PM (Dc2NZ)

362 hogmartin, hope you feel better soon.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:51 PM (u482j)

363 >>360 Happy Birthday, Zod.
Posted by: m at October 27, 2019 05:50 PM (1vjNQ

Thanks! I think I'm drunk already.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:52 PM (XzT/D)

364 My favorite is the extra sharp cheddar. I can cut it off in slices, slam it on a cracker and chow down.
Posted by: Grannymimi at October 27, 2019 05:45 PM (u5LFV)

Yes. It's crazy good.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pallid Knight at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (x8Wzq)

365 Restaurant tip for anyone who happens to be in Columbia, SC and has a hankering for sushi: Inakaya Japanese Restaurant. NW side. Been there forever. In a crappy little strip mall. Goes to show one can never judge a book by its cover.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (jm1YL)

366 hogmartin, hope you feel better soon.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:51 PM (u482j)

Aw, thanks, nice of you to say that. I'm OK at the moment, I just know something's coming on.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (t+qrx)

367 Anybody here still have or had a traditional wood-fired smoker, no pellets or automation, and liked it/have perspective on how easy they are to use?

I strive fanatically to avoid adding gear to the back porch, if I can smoke with something smaller [an "egg", etc], simpler, cheaper, I'm interested. Not averse to the modern ones but just wondering if I can add a smallish item for smoking - most cooking will remain on the gas grill.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (QDnY+)

368 I'm not above putting a good ribeye on the Camp Chef, then, after a bit, moving it to the gas grill to the the sear.

I get some really tasty steaks that way.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 05:49 PM (WEBkv)

Ah, if you have a gas grill, it would be dumb to get the sear box. As long as you can throw it on some proper fire you should get the results you want. The sear box has an iron grate, but I don't think the thing gets nearly as hot as my professional grill with infra-red did, but hot enough. But $200 is kinda pricey. I'm just short on space currently, so an all in one unit made sense.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (Z1ykJ)

369 One neat trick I've done with my pellet grill -

A dentist friend gave me some perforated stainless steel trays. Imagine a cookie sheet with dozens of 1/4" holes.

When smoking salmon, it is the bomb. Smoke flavor all the way through. Much easier than a wire rack.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:54 PM (8AONa)

370 ''Zombie Lee Van Cleef.''

He would have been a good choice.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 05:54 PM (jm1YL)

371 362 hogmartin, hope you feel better soon.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:51 PM (u482j)
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hogmartin be illin'?

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 05:54 PM (MVjcR)

372 Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (7s3Gx)

The cool kidz have in their heads he was a congress critter at death. Nothing will change that, not even the correct info.

Posted by: emmitt fitzhume XIII at October 27, 2019 05:54 PM (vqIkG)

373 Happy birthday Zod! Here's a little token of my regard.....

Um.. all's I got is a wooden nickel and a left over candy cane (haven't bought any for two years but I'm sure it's fine), Oh and this dryer lint, and 14 pennies I found under the seat in the car. You want fries with that?

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 27, 2019 05:55 PM (myjNJ)

374 >>I just know something's coming on.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (t+qrx)

(Lights joss, blows bone-powder into flames, makes a sign in the air, mutters, makes another sign)

Strength to you.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:55 PM (XzT/D)

375 If Eastwood or Gibson we're to make a movie about the ISIS raid, who could play PDT?
Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (jm1YL)

oh, that's easy

Sean Penn

Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 05:56 PM (rpxSz)

376 ISIS GOAN BE GALVANIZE!

Posted by: Maxine Waters at October 27, 2019 05:56 PM (sWM8x)

377 **** checks mental list *****
Happy Birthday Zoe, may your reign go on indefinitely
And get well soon from whatever hasn't happened yet, Hogmartin

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:56 PM (8AONa)

378 hogmartin be illin'?
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 05:54 PM (MVjcR)

Probably just bore worms again.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:57 PM (t+qrx)

379 Awe shit, that's gonna cost me

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 05:57 PM (8AONa)

380 Damn, Zod, you can fill in for Mandela sign language guy.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:57 PM (u482j)

381 378 hogmartin be illin'?
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 05:54 PM (MVjcR)

Probably just bore worms again.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 05:57 PM (t+qrx)
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GO AWAY FROM THE LIGHT, HOGMARTIN!!!

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 05:58 PM (MVjcR)

382 This Alexa thing is one spying mutha fukka

Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:58 PM (1XAal)

383 >
Probably just bore worms again.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27

Can we have your stuff?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (uDh3k)

384 Sending hogmartin a dose of Ivermec.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (u482j)

385 >>Um.. all's I got is a wooden nickel and a left over candy cane (haven't bought any for two years but I'm sure it's fine), Oh and this dryer lint, and 14 pennies I found under the seat in the car. You want fries with that? Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 27, 2019 05:55 PM (myjNJ)

I hate candy canes. Dryer lint is an effective tinder in the Solo stove. Somethingsomething about the rest of it.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (XzT/D)

386 kwin-noah

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Snowiest of Snowflakes at October 27, 2019 04:59 PM (x8Wzq)

Exactly.

[hipster-fucking-douchbags ruining food and eating and restaurants ...mutter...mutter...mutter...]

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (wYseH)

387 Wood smoking is all i do on contraptions ive put together my self except for a small and a large weber for a quick grill

Lump charcoal or wood is all i use

It is a labor of love

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (K+jdV)

388 I hate candy canes. Dryer lint is an effective tinder in the Solo stove. Somethingsomething about the rest of it.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (XzT/D)

That's good because the girl spawn just stole it.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 27, 2019 06:00 PM (myjNJ)

389

Can we have your stuff?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:59 PM (uDh3k)
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The required 2 minutes of mourning was met. hogmartin's tuff awarded to Maud'dib.

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:00 PM (MVjcR)

390 But $200 is kinda pricey. I'm just short on space currently, so an all in one unit made sense.
Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (Z1ykJ)

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Yep. Fortunately, we have the space and, even more fortunate, my wife does like a good meal, so, she's okay with the patio having both a gas grill and a pellet grill on it.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:00 PM (WEBkv)

391 So happy Pelosi was not told. Suck it up and go whimpering back to Schiff for Brains for consolation. I would not trust her/it/she either.

Posted by: James at October 27, 2019 06:01 PM (qM84C)

392 >>382 This Alexa thing is one spying mutha fukka
Posted by: Yo! at October 27, 2019 05:58 PM (1XAal)

If you ask her the most sensible way to end your life, she lectures you.

If you ask her how she can end *her* life, she's less forthcoming.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:01 PM (XzT/D)

393 >
The required 2 minutes of mourning was met. hogmartin's tuff awarded to Maud'dib.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:00 PM

Sweeeeeeeet.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:01 PM (uDh3k)

394 If Mammaw could leave hard candy in a dish for a decade and it was still fine, I doubt a wrapped candy cane will go bad.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 06:02 PM (ycWCI)

395 Maud'dib, that includes the kitties, ya know?

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:02 PM (u482j)

396 The required 2 minutes of mourning was met. hogmartin's tuff awarded to Maud'dib.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:00 PM

Sweeeeeeeet.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:01 PM (uDh3k)

Uh, I guess I'll just get some boxes and tape, then.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (t+qrx)

397 If Mammaw could leave hard candy in a dish for a decade and it was still fine, I doubt a wrapped candy cane will go bad.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 06:02 PM (ycWCI)

Again, this is good news since the girl spawn stole Zods candy cane.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (myjNJ)

398 FYI, CSpan2 is showing a speech by John Lott ("The War on Guns") from 6:00-6:50 eastern, as in right now.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (Yeuu4)

399 Zod that's funny

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (ZCEU2)

400 396 The required 2 minutes of mourning was met. hogmartin's tuff awarded to Maud'dib.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:00 PM

Sweeeeeeeet.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:01 PM (uDh3k)

Uh, I guess I'll just get some boxes and tape, then.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (t+qrx)
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This stuff just cracks me up.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (WEBkv)

401 Maud'dib, that includes the kitties, ya know?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:02 PM (u482j)

I think their contract says they get to eat my carcass.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:03 PM (t+qrx)

402 >
395 Maud'dib, that includes the kitties, ya know?
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:02 PM (u482j)

I do know. Kittehs are welcome here. 2 are currently in residence.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:04 PM (uDh3k)

403 Just pulled bacon out of oven. Didn't burn it this time. The Millionaires Bacon came out divine.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:04 PM (Dhht7)

404 The cauliflower gratin looks delish. Might try that this week.

Our local market had a sale on boneless skinless chicken breast for 88 cents a pound. I bought 16 pounds and spent yesterday cutting it all into chunks and canning it. So nice to have that at the ready for quick meals.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:04 PM (RfzVr)

405 Uh, I guess I'll just get some boxes and tape, then.

Posted by: hogmartin=====
Hold on, vultures. Looks like he's only mostly dead.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:05 PM (8AONa)

406 How do you like them? Does either one have the controller that allows you to program for specific temps?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 05:35 PM

I'm going to respond to this, and then another comment around some of what clutch said.

I have a medium large ("Century", no longer made), and the older small 'tailgate' model. I like them both (and although the small one is not without it's faults, I probably cook 4x as much on it as the larger).

You can select temps from around 160 up to 450 (degrees F) at (in general) 25 degree F increments. The large one is pretty accurate, and holds temps well (if you're not opening it all the time, but that's true for any grill). The smaller one is off about 10dF to start, doesn't really hold temp well until 325 or higher.

The smoke on the food is much better on the smaller one, for some reason.

For calibration purposes, I have a large Weber Genesis gass grill, a Sabre w/IR, the two Traegers, a Kamado (think Green Egg+), and 3 Weber Smokey Mountains (2 18", 1 22").

The small Traeger gets most of my everyday cooks. It also causes me more irritation than all the others combined. You have to clean it like every 4 or 5 cooks; if you don't, it's going to let you know. Fortunately, it's by far the easiest to clean.

Supposedly, the newer small one has corrected a number of problems. I'll probably get one in the next year or so.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:05 PM (DMUuz)

407 Hold on, vultures. Looks like he's only mostly dead.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:05 PM (8AONa)

He's just being polite.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 06:05 PM (Yeuu4)

408 I strive fanatically to avoid adding gear to the
back porch, if I can smoke with something smaller [an "egg", etc],
simpler, cheaper, I'm interested. Not averse to the modern ones but just
wondering if I can add a smallish item for smoking - most cooking will
remain on the gas grill.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 05:53 PM (QDnY+)

I like the egg a lot, if I had a proper backyard I'd probably have one. One reason I avoided one in my new townhome was the weight, and wrestling one in by myself. In my first home I was all wood cooking all the time. The wood flavor from something like a green egg is unparalleled. And the heat generated is awesome. Can't say enough good things about them, and if you're into the zen of cooking - they're the way to go.

I used to have one of those little upright pot smokers, but it took lots of watching, lots of tending. Constantly putting more chips or wood on. I've also used the old fashioned fire box to the side type, but those need constant rotation and watching as well. The heat isn't particularly even.

Pit Boss and other similar upright analog systems are about $150-200ish and do a great job. They are a %$% to clean though.

The beauty of the pellet grills is they're idiot proof which is great
for me. The typical Traeger/Camp Chef/Z Grills run $350-800. So about the same as a regular propane BBQ at home despot.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (Z1ykJ)

409 Uh, I guess I'll just get some boxes and tape, then.

Posted by: hogmartin=====
Hold on, vultures. Looks like he's only mostly dead.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:05 PM (8AONa)

I know, but they already did the two minutes thing.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (t+qrx)

410 Chickened out on the kale in salad.

legalinsurrection.com/nosafe-spaces documentary exposes the lefts war on free speech
https://tinyurl.com/y539pmmv
Trailer for Adam Corolla and Dennis Prager's film No Safe Spaces

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (ZCEU2)

411 Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:04 PM (RfzVr)

The gratin is good...and easy. As for canning the chicken? Why not just cook it and freeze it? Is there something preferable to the canned version?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (wYseH)

412 "Alexa, are you a bossy electronic cunt?"

(pause)

"I'm not sure about that."

Mouthy fucking little grey mesh tower of attitude.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (XzT/D)

413 cfo mom-

Didja get up in time to make breakfast this AM ?

Posted by: JT at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (arJlL)

414 willowed; cracked me up:

32 It is STILL Zod's birthday.

Trenches are being dug; Aztecs are digging with their bare hands to celebrate. Gin is happening. Music. Stilted 'dancing.' The 'Yao' series is still being scraped into limestone with rock-shards by weeping acolytes. Sinema is wearing The Boots. The celebration/beat continues.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 02:59 PM (XzT/D)

Posted by: m at October 27, 2019 06:07 PM (1vjNQ)

415 If Eastwood or Gibson we're to make a movie about the ISIS raid, who could play PDT?
Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 05:47 PM (jm1YL)
oh, that's easy
Sean Penn
Posted by: REDACTED at October 27, 2019 05:56 PM (rpxSz)

John Travolta.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 27, 2019 06:07 PM (Z+IKu)

416 This whole "Congress wasn't briefed in advance" thing is yet another nothingburger in a Beltway increasingly obsessed with same [well, Dems and their media wing, and the clueless army of former officials]. Like jawboning a foreign leader with whose nation we have a mutual legal assistance treaty about a judicial investigation of matters relating to our own elections.

Congress is informed - intel committees - in a formal way about intel covert ops, though even those are broad outlines, objectives, resources, etc., not detailed play-by-play. The big eight [intel committees + whole body bipartisan leadership are informed of select matters from time to time.

But there has never been a formal or required pre-notification to the Hill about specific military operations. For obvious reasons.

Unless there is some pretty dramatic new, and extremely ill-advised, statute I'm unaware of, this is yet another tempest about what is absolute SOP.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 06:07 PM (QDnY+)

417 >
Supposedly, the newer small one has corrected a number of problems. I'll probably get one in the next year or so.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27,

Thanks Dunc!

Hogmartin, do "we" already have a smoker?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:08 PM (uDh3k)

418 Duncan, I think we need to talk about your grills.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 06:08 PM (ycWCI)

419 Pork butt in the crock pot for 8 hours.. perfection!
No smoke flavor.. but I really don't care...
And if you just salt and pepper it, you can use it right out of the slow cooker in so many way..
Pulled pork sandwiches or tacos..

Make a gravy out of the drippings and serve with dumplings and sauerkraut.
I love pork!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2019 06:09 PM (438dO)

420 Hogmartin, do "we" already have a smoker?
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:08 PM (uDh3k)

Yeah, but it's crap. It's one of those barrel ones with the firebox on one side and the flue on the other.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:09 PM (t+qrx)

421 Grills just want to have fun.

Posted by: Cyndi Lauper at October 27, 2019 06:09 PM (mvenn)

422 I know, but they already did the two minutes thing.

Posted by: hogmartin
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Seems like you should call in the union steward. Two minute rule may have some loopholes buried in the sub clauses and other assorted footnotes.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:09 PM (8AONa)

423 Total US Baby Boomers: 85,358,000

Still Alive: 64,979,778
Dead: 20,378,222

Death every: 18.2 Seconds
Deaths Today: 4,737
Slow, steady progress.

Posted by: Aw Shucks at October 27, 2019 06:10 PM (Bf3hj)

424 ... and the flue on the other.
Posted by: hogmartin

*******

Maybe that's why you're feeling poorly.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 27, 2019 06:10 PM (mvenn)

425 Took a picture and messaged it to Mrs., in San Diaggoo.

"Are you drunk?"
"....No."
"Wash your face. There's blood or something on your nose."
"My foot fell asleep. I'm working on the Von Spee story for Military History Mag."
"Sure you are."
"I miss you."
"I can tell. You're old enough to know better."
(pause)
"I walked the dog."
(immediate attention change)
"OH! How is she? Does she miss me?"

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:11 PM (XzT/D)

426 >

Yeah, but it's crap. It's one of those barrel ones with the firebox on one side and the flue on the other.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:09

Mine is even crappier. Little boxy thing that I only developed the smoke-fu magic to succeed on fish.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:11 PM (uDh3k)

427 clutch - thanks

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 06:12 PM (QDnY+)

428 Pork butt in the crock pot for 8 hours.. perfection!
No smoke flavor.. but I really don't care...
And if you just salt and pepper it, you can use it right out of the slow cooker in so many way..
Pulled pork sandwiches or tacos..

Make a gravy out of the drippings and serve with dumplings and sauerkraut.
I love pork!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at October 27, 2019 06:09 PM (438dO)

I mentioned above friends in Hawaii that did Kalua pork in a crock pot, but they'd sprinkle with liquid smoke, then wrap in banana or ti leaves with a few slices of fruit, salt and pepper. Texture was awesome, different from regular smoked. Probably in part to being sort of slowly steamed and the fruit. Hard to go wrong - and a lot easier if you're someplace that's snowing.

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 06:13 PM (Z1ykJ)

429 Seems like you should call in the union steward. Two minute rule may have some loopholes buried in the sub clauses and other assorted footnotes.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:09 PM (8AONa)

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Appropriate bribes, err, gifts, will be offered to the union stewards.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:13 PM (WEBkv)

430 Whistle......
Tweeeeet!!

Hogmartin is still posting. His stuff remains in his possession until such time as he stops posting for at least 1 hour. If there is no affirmation of life post after one hour then his stuff is up for grabs.

Posted by: madamemayhem (uppity wench) at October 27, 2019 06:13 PM (myjNJ)

431 Muad and Hogmartin - get a pellet smoker. Money well spent.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:14 PM (8AONa)

432 CBD

I wet the rim of my glasses with a lime, usually the one I used for making the drink. Turn the glass upside down in a plate of salt and twirl. I saw a bartender do this years ago. It always works for me and I like lots of salt.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:14 PM (jm1YL)

433 Donald Link's smothered pork recipe is the king.

(pro tip: add diced apple to the gravy near the end)

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:14 PM (XzT/D)

434 I tried my first smoked pickled eggs today. The guy smoked them in the shell, which also cooked them. Then he put them in a jar with onions and garlic and filled with brine. Basically vinegar, salt, and water. Soaked them 10 days. Daaaaaamn good.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM (uDh3k)

435 If I'm going to be dead in 18.2 seconds, I'm drinking the good scotch.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM (u482j)

436 Wow, thanks for that tip, clutch cargo !

Got a few cans of that weird Arab-writing-on-the-can Velveeta in the long-term stores, but Cougar Cheese is gonna replace it very shortly !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM (bwo3w)

437 Yep, slow cooker for pulled pork, and pulled chicken. Incredibly simple, incredibly good. No smoke flavor, but otherwise the same, and you can add flavor via sauces or spices. Favorite incredibly cheap, incredibly easy, incredibly good trick - chicken thighs on sale, add spices, cook, shred, add BBQ sauce, bingo. Have posted my "recipe" here before.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM (QDnY+)

438 Posted by: Aw Shucks at October 27, 2019 06:10 PM (Bf3hj)

Explain to me why you are still here?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:16 PM (wYseH)

439 ''Total US Baby Boomers: 85,358,000

Still Alive: 64,979,778
Dead: 20,378,222

Death every: 18.2 Seconds
Deaths Today: 4,737
Slow, steady progress.''

Well I wasn't one of the deaths today so that's a good thing.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:16 PM (jm1YL)

440 435 If I'm going to be dead in 18.2 seconds, I'm drinking the good scotch.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM (u482j)
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I suggest always drinking the good scotch, just in case.

Can't be too careful.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:16 PM (WEBkv)

441 OK Ben Had, what's your fav scotch?

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (uDh3k)

442 Oh, just caught it on the book thread:

Happy Birthday Zod !

*drinks a health in your general direction*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (bwo3w)

443 I tried my first smoked pickled eggs today. The guy
smoked them in the shell, which also cooked them. Then he put them in a
jar with onions and garlic and filled with brine. Basically vinegar,
salt, and water. Soaked them 10 days. Daaaaaamn good.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM (uDh3k)

Shell them before putting in the jar to soak, or shell and all?

Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (Z1ykJ)

444 Muad and Hogmartin - get a pellet smoker. Money well spent.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:14 PM (8AONa)

Good idea. I started with a bullet smoker, which happens to be the perfect size and orientation to smoke a small turkey, and did to great effect for about two years. Then I decided to step up to something with more capacity without doing the research, before I was ready, and ended up with this thing, and left the bullet smoker with my parents.

'twere my hubris, done me in.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (t+qrx)

445 blake, point well taken.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (u482j)

446 >>Happy Birthday Zod !
*drinks a health in your general direction*
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (bwo3w)

Thanks!

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:18 PM (XzT/D)

447 I resisted getting a pellet grill for years, figuring it was the worst of both worlds (gas & charcoal), and would grill as well as a grill, or smoke as well as a smoker.

I'd say now it's a good compromise for gas/charcoal, and while the latter statement is true, I'll do a half rack of baby backs on it for my wife on the small one, get almost as good as smoke on it as from a 6-8 hr smoke on a WSM, in 35-45 min. I still use the others for specific things. If you really want low and slow, I'd go with a WSM. I've been experimenting with brisket, getting past the 160 dF hump on low temp, foiling, and finishing at 350 w/good results.

Heat the big Traeger to 450, slap a rubbed chicken back down for 70 min., and come back to perfectly grilled chicken, better than any rotisserie chicken I've ever done. You can do 3 or 4 chickens at once if you want on the bigger Traeger.

I originally thought the lack of 'sear' would be a deal-breaker, but I get compliments on my steaks all the time. They come off with a wonderful mahogany color, and enough smoke that people notice.

clutch made some interesting points around Camp Chef. It sounds like a comparison is in order. I'm happy w/Traeger, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't jump ship.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:18 PM (DMUuz)

448 Maud'dib, Whatever happens to be in my hand!

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:19 PM (u482j)

449 Uh, I guess I'll just get some boxes and tape, then.

Posted by: hogmartin=====
Hold on, vultures. Looks like he's only mostly dead.
Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:05 PM (8AONa)

I know, but they already did the two minutes thing.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:06 PM (t+qrx)

Ha!

*Eric Cartman voice*

I luv you guys.

Posted by: Pug Mahon, Pallid Knight at October 27, 2019 06:19 PM (x8Wzq)

450 I like to think that PDT understands that if congressional demonrat leadership had advance notice of an operation like this, the warning to al-baghdadi would have gone out pretty quickly.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:20 PM (bwo3w)

451 >
Shell them before putting in the jar to soak, or shell and all?
Posted by: clutch cargo at October 27, 2019 06:17 PM (Z1ykJ)

Shell them first. Don't start with super fresh eggs to make this easier.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:20 PM (uDh3k)

452 If I'm going to be dead in 18.2 seconds, I'm drinking the good scotch.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:15 PM

Good call. Should be that way all the time, though, shouldn't it?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:20 PM (Dhht7)

453 >448 Maud'dib, Whatever happens to be in my hand!
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:19 PM (u482j)

I have a second sister on the blog!

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:21 PM (uDh3k)

454 cfo mom - as in pressure-cooker canned it ?

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (bwo3w)

455 450 I like to think that PDT understands that if congressional demonrat leadership had advance notice of an operation like this, the warning to al-baghdadi would have gone out pretty quickly.
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:20 PM (bwo3w)
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What, the complete neophyte of a political hazard understands operational security?

Next, you'll be telling me he hasn't started a nuclear war!

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (WEBkv)

456 367
Anybody here still have or had a traditional wood-fired smoker, no
pellets or automation, and liked it/have perspective on how easy they
are to use?

I have a Pitts and Spits with the barrel for water and grill above it with the firebox off the back. 1/4 inch steel for the box, really well made but wood as fuel has so many variables in temps you have to stand there adjusting constantly. If you like playing with fire it's fun if you start with charcoal and then nice dry wood on top. Briskets are at least 10 hours. Not a set it and forget it rig, but if you have the energy, time and patience you'll have some great bbq.

Posted by: dartist at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (K22Va)

457 Found a nice Portuguese market near my new home. Scored some beautiful smokey chourice. Just made a chourice sauce for pasta that the RMBS Dad used to make when we were kids. Pure childhood comfort food. The only drawback is missing the dad while I cook.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (rBtIz)

458 I used a Weber Smokey Joe for long enough to realize that regulating (ha!) the temp overnight was a pain in the ass. It became an excuse to stay up most of the night drinking with James and fucking around with the, umm, 'fire'--which was either too hot, or went out. Up and down. Genuine, but a hassle.

Pellets look too...rodent-food, but I'm game to try 'em. Regulating the heat sounds attractive.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (XzT/D)

459 ''I like to think that PDT understands that if congressional demonrat leadership had advance notice of an operation like this, the warning to al-baghdadi would have gone out pretty quickly.''

Oh he understands. He specifically told a reporter that he didn't notify Pelosi because he didn't want to risk lives.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM (jm1YL)

460 When I make a pork shoulder, I brine it for a day or two. Then I roast it in the oven in a ginger ale bath and covered in a dry rub. About 8 hours at 275. Fork tender with some nice crust. Mmm,mmm yummy good!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM (KA5Fy)

461 Pure childhood comfort food. The only drawback is missing the dad while I cook.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (rBtIz)

If you are thinking about him and making his recipes, then he is still around...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM (wYseH)

462 I'm doing some ny strips sous vide tonight. I'm trying just a sprinkle of chili powder with fresh rosemary sprigs and pepper. Finish in a red hot skillet with a little butter. Served with hash brown potatoes and onion old school style.

Posted by: Mog Smash at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (M0N3Z)

463 Wife got home exhausted from STL and went to nap on couch couple hours ago. When she wakes up I'll give her the package Ben Had sent from the TxMoMe to open.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (Dhht7)

464 Duncan, I think we need to talk about your grills.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 27, 2019 06:08 PM

You want more information, or you want to arrange an intervention?

I'm probably going to sell the Sabre.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (DMUuz)

465 Probably that ISIS puppet Omar would have contacted her family about the attack and so US Forces might have sustained injuries in order to make Trump look bad. I don't trust Pelosi and her band of idiots at all and Trump did the appropriate thing not to tell them. Probably on Monday Pelosi and Schiff will try to impeach Trump because of this.......

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (qM84C)

466 Maud'dib, I'll drink to that.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (u482j)

467 And BTW, if you haven't had a chance to watch PDT's statement and press conference make time to do so. He was masterful. Probably can get the links from Fox.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:25 PM (jm1YL)

468 Hey hogmartin - try and hang on through the Gun Thread if you can!

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:25 PM (gj/rn)

469 >458 I used a Weber Smokey Joe for long enough to realize that regulating (ha!) the temp overnight was a pain in the ass. It became an excuse to stay up most of the night drinking with James and fucking around with the, umm, 'fire'--which was either too hot, or went out. Up and down. Genuine, but a hassle.

I rarely have extended blocks of time available to smoke manually. The pellet smokers seem like an elegant solution, especially if I can control feed rates and temps from work.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM (uDh3k)

470 440
I suggest always drinking the good scotch, just in case.

Can't be too careful.
Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:16 PM (WEBkv)

Yes, I realized that a long time ago. If I'm going to ruin my liver, I can either do it with the good booze or the cheap booze. It's a no-brainer.

Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM (j/R1H)

471 If you are thinking about him and making his recipes, then he is still around...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM

*nods sagely*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM (rBtIz)

472 CBD, Amen to that. Every time I make my Nina's saffron chicken liver risotto I see her face.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM (u482j)

473 "Oh he understands. He specifically told a reporter that he didn't notify Pelosi because he didn't want to risk lives.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM (jm1YL) "

How cool is that !

Missed that tidbit in my cursory reading of "news".

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:27 PM (bwo3w)

474 463 Wife got home exhausted from STL and went to nap on couch couple hours ago. When she wakes up I'll give her the package Ben Had sent from the TxMoMe to open.
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (Dhht7)
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Excellent! Will you tune in later and tell us what she thinks?

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:27 PM (gj/rn)

475 Pure childhood comfort food. The only drawback is missing the dad while I cook.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:22 PM (rBtIz)

If you are thinking about him and making his recipes, then he is still around...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM

Well said, CBD.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:27 PM (Dhht7)

476 Well I wasn't one of the deaths today so that's a good thing.

Still kicking here. Gonna go get a beer and rotate the chicken on the kamado.

Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at October 27, 2019 06:27 PM (7s3Gx)

477 & no wonder pelosi sounds so pissy !

lolgf !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:27 PM (bwo3w)

478 I think the path of the smoke is another big factor, in addition to heat control. The bullet type is a pain to regulate heat with, but all the smoke runs right up around the food. The one with the firebox on one end and the flue at the other sounds reasonable, except any draft at the flue just pulls the smoke straight to the top of the barrel and along the length of it and right out the flue.

Maybe extending the flue under the level of the food would give it more chance to circulate, but I can't be bothered.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:28 PM (t+qrx)

479 ''Yes, I realized that a long time ago. If I'm going to ruin my liver, I can either do it with the good booze or the cheap booze. It's a no-brainer.''

Indeed

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:28 PM (jm1YL)

480 RICKL!!!
**forrest gump waves***
Thinking of you hon! Keeping you and your treatment in my prayers!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM (KA5Fy)

481 Will do, Weasel. Prolly post on several threads.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM (Dhht7)

482 RedMindBlueState - I have no knowledge of Portuguese food. What is chourice?

Any things special to Portuguese that you can share?

Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM (RfzVr)

483 469
>458 I used a Weber Smokey Joe for long enough to realize that
regulating (ha!) the temp overnight was a pain in the ass. It became an
excuse to stay up most of the night drinking with James and fucking
around with the, umm, 'fire'--which was either too hot, or went out. Up
and down. Genuine, but a hassle.

My experience with the Pitts and Spitts as well. Got so wasted cooking the beast I could barely get it into the house. It's work, especially in the winter.

Posted by: dartist at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM (K22Va)

484 Long may Sun-In-His-Hair sing the songs and count coup !

Yao !

Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM (bwo3w)

485 To all you boomers on the very specific clock, may the odds be in your favor.

Have a great evening, everyone.

Posted by: 2009Refugee at October 27, 2019 06:30 PM (8AONa)

486 >>471 If you are thinking about him and making his recipes, then he is still around...
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:23 PM

Milk/flour, chipped beef, Parker rolls, McCormick black pepper, Sanka.

Miss you, Grandpa Zod.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:30 PM (XzT/D)

487 Have the last from my bottle of scotch

Here's to you Zed, hope you have many more!
Cheers

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 06:31 PM (ZCEU2)

488 ''How cool is that !

Missed that tidbit in my cursory reading of "news".''

As I said, everyone should watch his statement and press conference. He had complete control of both. He was magnificent. A president to be admired and venerated.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:31 PM (jm1YL)

489 Every time I make my Nina's saffron chicken liver risotto I see her face.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM (u482j)

Yup! And I'll bet you remember how her kitchen smelled...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:31 PM (wYseH)

490 Mark Twain:

Too much of anything is bad, but too much of good whiskey is barely enough.

I concur

Posted by: LoneRanger at October 27, 2019 06:32 PM (K+jdV)

491 480 RICKL!!!
**forrest gump waves***
Thinking of you hon! Keeping you and your treatment in my prayers!
Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM (KA5Fy)

Thanks, Cheriebebe! I hope you're doing well too.

Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 06:32 PM (j/R1H)

492 Yes, I realized that a long time ago. If I'm going to ruin my liver, I can either do it with the good booze or the cheap booze. It's a no-brainer.
Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM (j/R1H)
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*Yo! Ettes! I found Rickl!*

*whaddaya mean he's been back for a while?*

Never mind, then.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:32 PM (WEBkv)

493

Posted by: Mog Smash at October 27, 2019 06:33 PM (M0N3Z)

494 Massive foodgasm over the pork butt. Then the cauliflower tamped it down.

Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (14URa)

495 Maybe extending the flue under the level of the food would give it more chance to circulate, but I can't be bothered.

My firebox blows under the grill to the flue. I'd hate to go electric.

Posted by: dartist at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (K22Va)

496 >>*whaddaya mean he's been back for a while?*

Scanned as: "whaddaya mean he's been black for a while?"

Huh. (Examines empty glass).

Huh.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (XzT/D)

497 Rickl, fingers crossed things are going good!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (KA5Fy)

498 477 & no wonder pelosi sounds so pissy !

lolgf !
Posted by: sock_rat_eez - we are being gaslighted 24/365 at October 27, 2019 06:27 PM (bwo3w)

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She sounds like one of those people who was once one of the "cool kids" but, is now treated like the wannabe she always has been.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (WEBkv)

499 rickl!!!!!

Posted by: Peaches at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (14URa)

500 For the lobster Mac and cheese we're using
Extra sharp cheddar
Gruyere
Smoked Gruyere

Should be good

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (XCfh1)

501 Later y'all. I need to grill chicken now. Hogmartin, I did schedule a FedEx Sunday pickup for our stuff.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:35 PM (uDh3k)

502 Probably that ISIS puppet Omar would have contacted her family about the attack and so US Forces might have sustained injuries in order to make Trump look bad.

Posted by: James "Buster" Hymannd at October 27, 2019 06:24 PM (qM84C)
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I mean, why not? If we are seriously still entertaining the idea that our President reports to Putin, why not make that argument?

Posted by: Axeman at October 27, 2019 06:35 PM (Fq70R)

503 Unctuousness. A city in Scotland, no?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 27, 2019 06:35 PM (fUKvD)

504 Scanned as: "whaddaya mean he's been black for a while?"

Huh. (Examines empty glass).

Huh.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM (XzT/D)

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And I went back to make sure I hadn't typed "black."

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (WEBkv)

505 501 Later y'all. I need to grill chicken now. Hogmartin, I did schedule a FedEx Sunday pickup for our stuff.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:35 PM (uDh3k)
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Thought shipping was the responsibility of the departed.

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (gj/rn)

506 Later y'all. I need to grill chicken now. Hogmartin, I did schedule a FedEx Sunday pickup for our stuff.

Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:35 PM (uDh3k)

You're going to get his kittehs shipped via FedEx??????

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (Yeuu4)

507 Trump's presser this am was great. Didn't want any leaks. heh.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (dgt0l)

508 Thought shipping was the responsibility of the departed.
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (gj/rn)

Well it'd come out of the estate anyway. TANSTAAFL.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (t+qrx)

509 RedMindBlueState - I have no knowledge of Portuguese food. What is chourice?

Any things special to Portuguese that you can share?
Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:29 PM

Not Portuguese myself (all Greek here. Horde, do NOT make All The Surprise Anal Jokes)

Chourice is a pork sausage flavored with a lot of paprika and smoked. Kind of like Spanish chorizo, but usually with more coarsely cut chunks of meat. Makes an awesome sauce with tomato puree, red wine, onions, garlic, mushrooms, sliced bell peppers....comfort food on a raw, rainy day like what this is.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (rBtIz)

510 And the hits just keep on coming:

Abu al-Hassan al-Muhajir has been killed in Syria in a joint operation by the US military and the SDF. He was the spokesperson for Isis and was considered to be Baghdadi's "right-hand man."

https://tinyurl.com/yxp6x43f

Posted by: Maxine Waters at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (sWM8x)

511 I rarely have extended blocks of time available to smoke manually. The pellet smokers seem like an elegant solution, especially if I can control feed rates and temps from work.
Posted by: Muad'dib at October 27, 2019 06:26 PM

I've found the Weber Smokey Mountains to be very easy to maintain temp. I've replaced the water pan with one twice the size. On a rib cook (6-8 hrs), you can get by without replenishing either fuel or water. For brisket, (12-14+h), you need to add fuel once, and water once or twice. The real purpose of the water is a thermal buffer.

There are a number of fan modules that make temp maintenance almost effortless. Some of them cost 2x the cost of the WSM. I'm always intrigued, but not enough to buy one yet.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:37 PM (DMUuz)

512 Off cunnybag sock.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 27, 2019 06:37 PM (sWM8x)

513 Interesting that PDT didn't tell the Russians why we would be flying over their territory only that they'd be happy when it was over. The Russkies said ok, no biggie. That must drive the lefties nuts.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:38 PM (jm1YL)

514 >>508 Thought shipping was the responsibility of the departed. Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:36 PM (gj/rn)

In an economical sense, shipping would be the responsibility of the deported.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:38 PM (XzT/D)

515 Basil Hayden's is pretty good.

Fight me

Posted by: Mog Smash at October 27, 2019 06:39 PM (M0N3Z)

516 Huh. (Examines empty glass).

Huh.
Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:34 PM

Zoe's glass obviously has a hole in it. Find new glass, pour new drink. Continue to celebrate the Nativity of Zod.

Happy birthday!

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:39 PM (rBtIz)

517 As a baby boomer who may die in the next 18.2 secs, reminds me of something my orthopedic surgeon said regarding right age to die. He thought it was 80. Too much longer then burden on kids.

His comment was the best way to achieve target death age was either smoking, drinking or unprotected sex. Said he chose two of 'em. Never did tell me which two.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:39 PM (Dhht7)

518 Hi, Peaches!

Posted by: rickl at October 27, 2019 06:39 PM (j/R1H)

519 sock_rat_eez - yes, pressure canned in pint jars.

It's time consuming but very easy. No need to cook the chicken first. Just all the cutting into cubes and packing in the jars and dealing with the pressure cooker takes a bit of time.

I figure that for $14 outlay I got what would be almost $100 of Swanson canned chicken if I bought it at the store. (And mine is way better.).

Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:40 PM (RfzVr)

520 Now trending on Twitter- WAPO death notices-a darkly amusing response to "austere scholar "Baggy" etc

https://tinyurl.com/y27thpmf

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 27, 2019 06:40 PM (WI7YS)

521 olddog, I've got the smokin/drinkin down to a fine science.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:41 PM (u482j)

522 For the lobster Mac and cheese we're using
Extra sharp cheddar
Gruyere
Smoked Gruyere

Should be good

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 06:34

Cavatappi or elbow macaroni?

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:41 PM (Dhht7)

523 olddog, I've got the smokin/drinkin down to a fine science.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:41 PM (u482j)

*nudges*

Dancing. And the dancing part.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:42 PM (t+qrx)

524 Ah, I should have realized, chourice/chorizo. Similar.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:42 PM (RfzVr)

525 olddog, I've got the smokin/drinkin down to a fine science.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:41 PM

We must be related.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:43 PM (Dhht7)

526 His comment was the best way to achieve target death age was either smoking, drinking or unprotected sex. Said he chose two of 'em. Never did tell me which two.
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:39 PM (Dhht7)
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Crud, I'm going to live forever!

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:43 PM (WEBkv)

527 Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:42 PM (t+qrx)
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Save your strength, bro.

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:43 PM (MVjcR)

528 Just put a tri-tip on the small Traeger. A large doe went by 15 yards away. A minute later, a 5 point buck came by. In fall, a buck's thoughts turn to love.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:44 PM (DMUuz)

529 >>$100 of Swanson canned chicken

You will bury this in a five-gallon bucket with sleeves of Saltines. Hungry rebels will come to your house when the Burning Times really get it the fock on.

You will wordlessly point to the location of the buried bucket.

In this way you will live on in post-rebellion legend.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:44 PM (XzT/D)

530 olddog, dad passed at 79. No burden for me. It was my pleasure to make his last days peaceful. Drinker and smoker. I think he dabble in the other after mom passed in 94.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 06:44 PM (dgt0l)

531 hogmartin, I cannot even begin to tell you how crippled up I was the next morning.

Don't ever let me do that again.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:44 PM (u482j)

532 Apparently Bloomberg News was even worse-expressing sympathy for a leader who transformed himself into a teacher of Koranic recitation,

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (WI7YS)

533 Oh, and FUCK cancer.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (dgt0l)

534 Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:37 PM (DMUuz)

Check out Thermoworks for their fan-driven controllers.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (wYseH)

535 Is hogmartin standing his last watch?

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (DMUuz)

536 ''In fall, a buck's thoughts turn to love.''

''Love is in the air..."

Who sang that song? Can't remember.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:46 PM (jm1YL)

537 >>533 Oh, and FUCK cancer. Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (dgt0l)

This.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:46 PM (XzT/D)

538 249 I'm going to spam the thread with some news.

rancherbob not only cooks a fantastic cabrito but he is the new Reserve World Champion at the SHOT event this weekend.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 05:13 PM (u482j)

Ben Had--that is awesome!!!

Posted by: Ladyl at October 27, 2019 06:46 PM (TdMsT)

539 Posted by: Ladyl at October 27, 2019 06:46 PM (TdMsT)
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Ladyl- will you be around to regale us with your MoMe shooting story in the next thread?

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:48 PM (MVjcR)

540 Trump has shown that Nancy's home district is a literal shitshow and that she can't be trusted with a state secret. She's pushing for Impeachment over the expose that Biden is a crook, to try to stop Barr's reveal of the biggest scandal in our history (and its all on her party)

Governing well is the best revenge

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2019 06:48 PM (vDgDO)

541 If y'all are having trouble regulating your temp on a Weber Smokey Mountain (WSM), ya ain't doing it right.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:48 PM (DMUuz)

542 Ladyl, I'm so happy for him. Not discounting Jennifer's wins also.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:48 PM (u482j)

543 His comment was the best way to achieve target death age was either
smoking, drinking or unprotected sex. Said he chose two of 'em. Never
did tell me which two.

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:39 PM (Dhht7)

did he smell like cigarettes?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 06:48 PM (fqM2k)

544 447 I resisted getting a pellet grill for years, figuring it was the worst of both worlds (gas & charcoal), and would grill as well as a grill, or smoke as well as a smoker.
. . .
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:18 PM (DMUuz)

I've had a Traeger Proline 22 for 2 years now and really like it. Big enough to smoke a 15 lb turkey and a spiral ham at the same time (I do the meats for the extended family Thanksgiving and Christmas feasts).

Still have a Weber Genesis and do dogs, burgers, and steaks on that. Needs a rebuild (new burners).

Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at October 27, 2019 06:49 PM (di1hb)

545 Is hogmartin standing his last watch?
Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (DMUuz)

They did the two minutes' mourning and everything. Ask Muad'dib if you want any of my stuff.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:49 PM (t+qrx)

546 Weasel did Ladyl bring her oven mitt to change the barrel out?

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)

547 Noted Capitol Hill throuple leader and all-round abuser of office has resigned.

I'm actually stunned. There must be/have been serious legal or criminal liabilities in the wings here. Impossible to believe that "shame" was involved, very very hard to believe the Dems thought she could not be saved next November, given the brain-dead status of CA voters.

As noted by a twatters wag, we now have Daesh chief and his killed deputy killed, Kanye converting to Christianity, and Hill resigning, all in one weekend. Trump, what can't he do?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 06:51 PM (QDnY+)

548 D*mn. My yard is a Odocoileus meat market. They're shameless.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:51 PM (DMUuz)

549 They did the two minutes' mourning and everything. Ask Muad'dib if you want any of my stuff.
Posted by: hogmartin at

lmao. One of the many reasons I love this smart military blog.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 06:52 PM (dgt0l)

550 did he smell like cigarettes?

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 06:48 PM

Not to me.

*fires up*

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:52 PM (Dhht7)

551 Jeffrey Dahmer, connoisseur of exotic and locally sourced meats, dies at 34

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at October 27, 2019 06:53 PM (WI7YS)

552 Wow

Rep Katie Hill is resigning.

Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 06:53 PM (4Lg20)

553 They did the two minutes' mourning and everything. Ask Muad'dib if you want any of my stuff.
Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:49 PM

Naw, man. I'll pour the fifth of Irish I promised on your grave after you're buried.

Unlike Hillary! or Jane F., I won't run it through my kidneys first.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 06:53 PM (DMUuz)

554 Noted Capitol Hill throuple leader and all-round abuser of office has resigned.

I'm
actually stunned. There must be/have been serious legal or criminal
liabilities in the wings here. Impossible to believe that "shame" was
involved, very very hard to believe the Dems thought she could not be
saved next November, given the brain-dead status of CA voters.

As
noted by a twatters wag, we now have Daesh chief and his killed deputy
killed, Kanye converting to Christianity, and Hill resigning, all in one
weekend. Trump, what can't he do?

Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 06:51 PM (QDnY+)

I'm guessing she decided that the job wasn't worth it in the long run.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 06:54 PM (Yeuu4)

555 As noted by a twatters wag, we now have Daesh chief and his killed deputy killed, Kanye converting to Christianity, and Hill resigning, all in one weekend. Trump, what can't he do?
Posted by: rhomboid at October 27, 2019 06:51 PM (QDnY+)

And as an afterthought, SNL punked themselves over the ISIS thing right as it was happening. PDT didn't even do that. It was just incidental.

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:54 PM (t+qrx)

556 Rep Katie Hill is resigning.
Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 06:53 PM

Really? A Democrat?

*checks out window for aerial pork*

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:55 PM (rBtIz)

557 In some ways a shame Katie is packing it in. A weak Democrat is not as bad as a strong one.

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 06:55 PM (ZCEU2)

558 I pressed grapes a couple of weeks ago, and then took the remaining hulls and fruit that didn't have all the juice squoze out, and ran it through the steam juicer. The juice from that was deep purple, and not terribly sweet, but I canned it anyways. All that comes out of the juicer is juice, no hulls or stems or pulp, so it tends to be a bit cleaner.

I had one quart left over I drank half of and put the rest in the fridge, and today I poured it out to drink, and it had tiny black needlelike crystals in the bottom.

The grapes have a great deal of tartaric acid in them that will start to condense out and cause crystals if the juice is stored at a low enough temperature. I have found ones the size of a .22 bullet in the bottom. They tend to be purplish and have facets and everything. When you see that you know the juice is quite sweet.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 06:56 PM (fqM2k)

559 J has made cauliflower augratin it was delish. Tonight is lamb chops on the grill with mint jelly of course, Frozen sweet corn and I don't know what else but it's going to be good.

Posted by: Farmer at October 27, 2019 06:56 PM (SljIB)

560 ''As
noted by a twatters wag, we now have Daesh chief and his killed deputy
killed, Kanye converting to Christianity, and Hill resigning, all in one
weekend. Trump, what can't he do?''

At some point in the past I thought we never see another president as good as Reagan. I was wrong. Absolutely wrong.

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 06:56 PM (jm1YL)

561 I love Romanesco, I usually have it raw, but it cooks up like a cross between broccoli and cauliflower. My local farmers' market had nice small ones which had a more delicate flavor than the large ones I've seen in stores.

Someone recommended oxtails for puppeh, so I'm giving them a whirl tonight. Hopefully he'll enjoys the extra glucosamine.

Posted by: CN at October 27, 2019 06:56 PM (U7k5w)

562 Weasel did Ladyl bring her oven mitt to change the barrel out?

Posted by: Skip at October 27, 2019 06:50 PM (ZCEU2)
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Nah, bro! Ladyl is hardcore!

Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:57 PM (MVjcR)

563 537 >>533 Oh, and FUCK cancer. Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 06:45 PM (dgt0l)

This.

Posted by: Zod at October 27, 2019 06:46 PM

Uckfay Ancercay. Wife has the necklace. Physician Asst at oncologist noticed necklace and says "How pretty. What does it mean?" Wife shocked me and just blurted out "Fuck Cancer."

Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:57 PM (Dhht7)

564 CBD seriouseats has a great rundown on the temps for sous vide eggs shows all the results from diff temps. A degree or two makes a big difference.

On another note I have been making my wife Greek style yogurt in quart jars using the sous vide. She says it is outstanding.

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 27, 2019 06:57 PM (WF/xn)

565 556 Rep Katie Hill is resigning.
Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 06:53 PM

Really? A Democrat?

*checks out window for aerial pork*
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at October 27, 2019 06:55 PM (rBtIz)

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Dem leadership probably found out there's even worse coming out about Hill and told her she needed to go, or else.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 06:57 PM (WEBkv)

566 Nah, bro! Ladyl is hardcore!
Posted by: Weasel at October 27, 2019 06:57 PM (MVjcR)

Stronk! Like bool!

Posted by: hogmartin at October 27, 2019 06:57 PM (t+qrx)

567 There are more sordid stories about Congresscritter sexual misbehavior than Katie Hills, buried with taxpayer payoffs. You know this

Katie's could have been turned into a titillating porn parody. Suck my dick intern, or else, not so much

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2019 06:58 PM (vDgDO)

568 CN, that was me, Hope he likes them.

Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:58 PM (u482j)

569 CBD - canned vs. frozen chicken = shelf life and no spoilage in a power outage.

I know some of you will be horrified, but I can guarantee you that home canned meats (done correctly!!) have a shelf life of 5 years. Maybe more, I haven't had any around long enough to try more than 5 years.

Also no chance of freezer burn. No waiting for it to thaw. You want chicken salad, chicken tacos? We're good to go in ten minutes.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:58 PM (RfzVr)

570 Rep Katie Hill is resigning.
Posted by: Wut
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Her parents must be proud.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 27, 2019 06:59 PM (fUKvD)

571 Hill resigning?? A video must have surfaced.

Posted by: davidt at October 27, 2019 06:59 PM (SzJUj)

572 568 CN, that was me, Hope he likes them.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:58 PM (u482j)

Posted by: CN at October 27, 2019 06:59 PM (U7k5w)

573 Why would she resign? She's a Democrat, and not even close to the worst of them.

Posted by: t-bird at October 27, 2019 06:59 PM (Wd55D)

574 The media can now move on from the Dem sex scandal they weren't talking about anyway. How convenient.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (xPl2J)

575 Muad'dib: Do you have a recipe for those smoked pickled eggs?

Posted by: Chris not rock at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (WO0/g)

576 568 CN, that was me, Hope he likes them.
Posted by: Ben Had at October 27, 2019 06:58 PM (u482j)

Thanks! I suspect he will, he's camped out near the stove.

Posted by: CN at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (U7k5w)

577 Rhubarb is number 6 on deadly foods.

Used to eat stalks all the time as a kid. Peel the skin off and dip in sugar. Good stuff.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (1g7ch)

578 Rep Katie Hill is resigning.

To spend more time with her family?

Katie's family: Ewwww!

Posted by: t-bird at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (Wd55D)

579 A friend of mine is eating home canned albacore that's 18 years years old. I wouldn't recommend it, but he is fine

Posted by: Somewhere on Ventura Highway at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (WF/xn)

580 In some ways a shame Katie is packing it in.
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That's ONT material.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (fUKvD)

581 The media can now move on from the Dem sex scandal they weren't talking about anyway. How convenient.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (xPl2J)

Yup.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (Yeuu4)

582 Poor Matt Gaetz.

What Dem will he defend next?

Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (4Lg20)

583 ''Hill resigning?? A video must have surfaced.''

LOL. If there is The Daily Mail will get it. Wish they weren't so anti Trump. I used to like checking out there website from time to time

Posted by: Tuna at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (jm1YL)

584 RedState deserves a round of applause.

Posted by: Mark1971 at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (xPl2J)

585 Rep Katie Hill is resigning.

And launching her presidency campaign.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (tMRh/)

586 Btw there will be a special election and this is a winnable seat.

Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (4Lg20)

587 582 Poor Matt Gaetz.

What Dem will he defend next?
Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (4Lg20)

Romney?

Posted by: CN at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (U7k5w)

588 Rhubarb is number 6 on deadly foods.

Used to eat stalks all the time as a kid. Peel the skin off and dip in sugar. Good stuff.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 27, 2019 07:00 PM (1g7ch)

Without reading the article, I know that it's the rhubarb leaves that are the problem.

Posted by: Vendette at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (Yeuu4)

589 Gun thread is up.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at October 27, 2019 07:02 PM (DMUuz)

590 Nub!

Oh, wait.

Gub!

Rats.

Nood.

Gub thread.

Posted by: blake - are you DMV experienced?
at October 27, 2019 07:02 PM (WEBkv)

591 Poor Matt Gaetz.

What Dem will he defend next?
Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 07:01 PM (4Lg20)

Didn't it turn out that those tweets were from a parody account?

Posted by: DR.WTF at October 27, 2019 07:02 PM (aS1PU)

592 Menendez had sex with underage girls and got re-elected.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at October 27, 2019 07:03 PM (tMRh/)

593 If a Hill video does come out, I will watch it... for scientific purposes.

Posted by: davidt at October 27, 2019 07:03 PM (SzJUj)

594
Also no chance of freezer burn. No waiting for it to thaw. You want chicken salad, chicken tacos? We're good to go in ten minutes.
Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 06:58 PM (RfzVr)

cfo mom, does that require a pressure cooker?

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 07:03 PM (dgt0l)

595 591.

No it was his verified personal account.

Unless some other proof came out.

Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 07:04 PM (4Lg20)

596 So happy Pelosi was not told. Suck it up and go whimpering back to Schiff for Brains for consolation. I would not trust her/it/she either.
Posted by: James at October 27, 2019 06:01 PM (qM84C)

Trump should flame twit the piss out of her.

Russians are more trustworthy with opsec.
Turks are more trustworthy with opsec.
Syrians are more trustworthy with opsec.

Nanzi, right up there with ISIS.
Neither want Trump as POTUS for killing their friends.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 27, 2019 07:04 PM (1g7ch)

597 Wow

Rep Katie Hill is resigning.

Posted by: Wut at October 27, 2019 06:53 PM

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Means there are some really nasty pics still out there that have not been released yet.

Posted by: Mr. Scott (Formerly GWS) at October 27, 2019 07:04 PM (JUOKG)

598 I had a spanish clam in Madrid 51 years ago. Or was it ham in Barcelona? It all runs together somehow.

Posted by: Eromero at October 27, 2019 07:05 PM (UUkQp)

599 "Austere Religious Scholar"

"Vegetarian Artist" -- WaPo headline description of Hitler

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia (Russian Asset) at October 27, 2019 07:08 PM (Do2h6)

600 cfo mom, does that require a pressure cooker?
Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 07:03 PM (dgt0l)

Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.

Waterbath has been used in the past, but you need to keep it at a full boil for an hour or more to be safe.

If you want the best book on canning, get the Ball Blue Book guide to Preserving. It is on its 37th edition apparently

https://tinyurl.com/y3w8yxav

Posted by: Kindltot at October 27, 2019 07:09 PM (fqM2k)

601 I give it six weeks before Katie Hill starts claiming she was run out of office by vindictive Republican misogynists because she has the vagina.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at October 27, 2019 07:10 PM (sWM8x)

602 JT at October 27, 2019 05:48 PM (arJlL)

Thank you so much. I've been worrying and praying all day. The horse is west of 101 and I don't know what they can do. Other animals - the cat, dog and 4 guinea pigs can stay with me. YIKES!

Posted by: Grannymimi at October 27, 2019 07:11 PM (u5LFV)

603 Her parents must be proud.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 27, 2019 06:59 PM (fUKvD)

We are!

Posted by: All 5 of us! at October 27, 2019 07:13 PM (vqIkG)

604 kindeltot. Was reading. Yes it does, apparently. Have a Blue Book from early 90's. Never looked at the meat section. Thank you. Now to find a pressure cooker.

Posted by: Infidel at October 27, 2019 07:16 PM (dgt0l)

605 Infidel, yes a pressure cooker. NOT an instapot. A real pressure canner. See Presto, All-American. A few other brands whose names escape me.

Posted by: cfo mom at October 27, 2019 07:17 PM (RfzVr)

606 How do you call someone austere when they regulalrly rape kidnappped hostages?

Islam is a militant faith for Incels with 80 IQs. Am I wrong

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2019 07:20 PM (vDgDO)

607 >>Rep Katie Hill is resigning.

She shall skank no more, forever.

Posted by: garrett at October 27, 2019 07:23 PM (7OmVm)

608 I put down a bed of bacon on my Traeger and put asparagus on top of the bacon. The asparagus should have been cooked a while ago. Oh well

Posted by: Northernlurker at October 27, 2019 07:27 PM (Uu+Jp)

609 How do you call someone austere when they regulalrly rape kidnappped hostages?

Islam is a militant faith for Incels with 80 IQs. Am I wrong

Posted by: Ignoramus at October 27, 2019 07:20 PM (vDgDO)

I thought about trying to joke about this and make a snarky retort, but I could not do it.

The muz adhere to a "theocratic civilization" of sorts that embraces evil at a level the rational Western mind apparently still cannot comprehend.

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at October 27, 2019 07:39 PM (BiNEL)

610 Regarding dangerous foods, there are some that can kill you without even trying to consume them. Mostly thanks to the law of gravity.

In particular, there's an... interesting fruit called the Durian. Supposed to have creamy pulp inside, but a nasty smell. But, like coconuts, they're suspended from tree limbs and are rather large fruits. They fall while someone's below, and someone is going to have a bad day.

Did I mention these things have spikes?

Posted by: Another Anon at October 27, 2019 07:40 PM (n8voF)

611 Cavatappi or elbow macaroni?
Posted by: olddog in mo at October 27, 2019 06:41 PM (Dhht7)

Cavatappi, Baby!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 27, 2019 07:44 PM (kauXV)

612 Lovely day and beautiful food and drink. Also Bye Ms Hill as on the sidebar, we hardly knew you.

Posted by: Summer of Love at October 27, 2019 08:25 PM (FJrl0)

613 601
I give it six weeks before Katie Hill starts claiming she was run out of
office by vindictive Republican misogynists because she has the
vagina.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis

But her vagina is way too old...

Posted by: Zombie Jeffrey Epstein at October 27, 2019 08:32 PM (V2Lun)

614 78 sock_rat_eez

I'm glad some else notices that. It's remarkable, the rendering. I'm sure this is known in the appropriate circles but I am snding this pic off to some folks who are into this and other "math" art/abstractions.

Posted by: pawn at October 27, 2019 11:42 PM (PveK5)

615 I guess this is known:

https://www.gardenbetty.com/romanesco-broccoli-a-fibonacci-fractal/

Posted by: pawn at October 27, 2019 11:44 PM (PveK5)

616 Serious Eats has lots of sous vide recipes.

https://www.seriouseats.com/recipes/topics/method/sous-vide

Posted by: Hammer Dog at October 28, 2019 06:54 AM (7Ayyg)

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