Chinese Pioneers [KT]

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The Wall Street Journal has put together a less-than-6 minute video, at the link above, on the use of artificial intelligence to boost the performance of children in school. I find it creepy just that the kids are in "young pioneer" neck scarves. That's not my idea of a pioneer. You would think that symbol would have lost some credibility with the fall of the USSR. Even if they are in denial about Mao.

"Likely no privacy protection at all" in the program for monitoring the brain waves of children. There is also some information on other developments in surveillance of the population in China.

More on the 70th Anniversary of the People's Republic

Well, the NBA/Chinese censorship uproar came right on the heels of President Xi's big anniversary celebration. Here's a piece to remind us what he was celebrating:

The People's Republic of China was born in chains. This piece provides a brief history of the People's Republic from the Communist insurgency (supported by Stalin) through today. A few excerpts:

China today, for any visitor who remembers the country from 20 or 30 years ago, seems hardly recognizable. One of the government's greatest accomplishments is to have distanced itself so successfully from the Mao era that it seems almost erased. Instead of collective poverty and marching Red Guards, there are skyscrapers, new airports, highways, railway stations, and bullet trains. Yet scratch the glimmering surface and the iron underpinnings of the one-party state become apparent. They have barely changed since 1949, despite all the talk about "reform and opening up." The legacy of liberation is a country still in chains. . . .

Over the following years, a newly conquered public had to turn themselves into what the Communists called "New People." They went to reeducation centers to learn the right answers, the right ideas, and the right slogans. Many of those deemed beyond redemption were slaughtered in an initial Great Terror that claimed some 2 million lives between 1949 and 1952, as victims were shot in public rallies held in stadiums or executed far away from the public eye, along rivers and ravines. In a meticulously drafted report preserved in the vaults of the Communist Party archives, Public Security Minister Luo Ruiqing proudly announced in August 1952 to Mao that 301,800 people had been executed in one year in a mere six provinces. . . .

You know, I don't think I ever really learned much about the initial Great Terror in China. Brings to mind the piece on "Leninthink" that has been discussed in the comments here recently. (There's a link here, with one to another essay, largely on Russian communism, by the same author). You might note some similarities to the Great Terror in China. Wonder how much more damage Lenin could have done if he had lived longer:

By the time Mao died in 1976, living standards for the population were lower than in 1949.

Hundreds of millions of people, it has often been claimed, were lifted out of poverty by the Chinese Communist Party after Deng Xiaoping came to power in 1979. But it is the people who lifted themselves out of poverty after having been stripped of their land and property, deprived of their most basic freedoms, impoverished, beaten, and starved during three decades of forced collectivization. The Cultural Revolution severely battered the ranks of the Communist Party, and villagers everywhere used the opportunity to quietly reconnect with the past, as they opened black markets, shared out collective assets, took back the land, and opened underground factories. Well before Deng came to power, large parts of the countryside had already abandoned the planned economy.
But the limited economic freedoms wrenched from the state by ordinary villagers came without significant political reform. . . .

You might want to read the whole thing. President Xi seems to be changing things. Some of these bold new initiatives don't really seem particularly innovative to me, in comparison to the actions of past tyrants. Though technology is providing new ways to accomplish tyranny. (h/t Sarah Hoyt)

Related developments in other nations

Think the Confucius Institutes are problematic in the USA? How about in New Zealand and Australia?

China's penetration of our educational system is a serious matter. However, its penetration in Australian and New Zealand is even more unsettling.
According to this report in the Washington Post, Chinese students have poured into these two countries by the hundreds of thousands over the past 20 years. Paying the full price for their education, they make higher education a top "export" earner for both nations.
Now, according to the same report, Chinese students are interfering with anti-Beijing protests and stifling free speech on campuses in Australia and New Zealand. . .

The Guardian has a piece up on facial recognition technology and the surveillance state in the UK.

Via J.J. Sefton, Daniel Greenfield outlines ways that the left is pushing conservative ideas off the internet:

While conservatives have taken shots at easy targets, a growing alliance between the media, dot com monopolies, and lefty non-profits is contriving to transform the internet into one giant safe space.
Much like the Chinese internet, their vision is of a unipolar community where only one point of view is acceptable and all others are treated as a crime. But, unlike the People's Republic, they don't seek to keep the rest of the world out with a Great Firewall, but to force the opposition off the internet with a comprehensive program of political censorship, transforming social media itself into a social credit scheme, and cutting off traffic and funds to conservatives by redefining speech as "disinformation".
"Free Speech is Killing Us," the new lefty paradigm insists.
But it wasn't speech that killed millions of people under Communism and Nazis. It was totalitarian socialist regimes determined to stamp out free speech. . .

So, is the Chinese Communist Party exporting its values, or are there people in the West ready to accept their values? Or both?

One positive note: The Trump Administration managed to get business at the Port of Long Beach out of Chinese hands (and into Australian hands) earlier this year. Quietly. Before the recent protests in Hong Kong. (h/t Maggie's Farm)

The Houston Rockets, James Harden and a Healthy Economy?

Somehow, James Harden has become sort of prominent as a kind of vague corporate voice in the NBA/Chinese censorship brouhaha. Ace wondered if the corporate world knew what it was doing with regard to Chinese censorship. So far, I don't see that James Harden has been a particularly effective spokesman. He first apologized for the horrifying (to China) tweet supporting democracy in Hong Kong.

It's no coincidence that Harden would be among the first players to offer an olive branch. It was Rockets General Manager Daryl Morey who started the controversy with a since-deleted tweet supporting protesters in Hong Kong, and the Rockets were already in Asia as part of the NBA's international preseason series.
But Harden is also one of the most popular players in mainland China, partly due to his talent and partly due to the Rockets' massive following in Asia, which dates back to Yao Ming's time with the team. It's one of the reasons Adidas AG lured him away from rival Nike Inc. with a 13-year deal worth a reported $200 million, making him the face of Adidas Basketball.

Later, a journalist was shut down when she tried to ask James Harden and Russel Westbrook a question about whether or not they would refrain from speaking out on politics/social justice in the future.

John Hayward:

She's lucky she wasn't dragged out of the press conference by Chinese troops with a black bag over her head.

Coincidentally, before all this happened, City Journal published a piece called Our James Harden Economy.

Professional sports offer a rules-based system for competition, within which players are free to pursue whatever strategies and tactics they believe will yield victory. In this sense, sports resemble the market economy, which guarantees participants the freedom to pursue success by the means that they deem most effective, within a regulated system. Sports and markets provide a degree of creative free play--a kind of contained chaos--that generates often-surprising outcomes. Just as competition among technically superb athletes can be uniquely exciting, market economies--in rewarding brilliance, diligence, and innovation--have proved uniquely capable of generating broad societal benefits, especially when compared with centrally planned economies that try to script results, in the manner of, say, WrestleMania.
Yet sports and markets also share a common vulnerability: a general tendency exists for competitive strategy, through continual refinement, to evolve in ways unpredictable to the game's creators and fundamentally inconsistent with the game's structure and objectives. . .

In basketball, the Houston Rockets have led a parallel revolution by focusing on three-point shots and free throws, which tend to offer the highest expected value. The Rockets' best player, James Harden, has risen to superstardom with a skill set suited perfectly to this strategy--herky-jerky drives to the basket that cause opponents to foul him constantly and a signature "step-back three," in which he fakes a drive and then jumps backward, creating just enough space to launch a three-point shot over a lunging defender. This has proved extraordinarily effective--Harden was the NBA's Most Valuable Player last year--but it can also be terribly repetitive, even ugly, to watch. Fouls slow the game down, and the ensuing free throws are the least interesting way to score. Step-back threes require no passing or movement but only four players standing to the side while their teammate dribbles and dribbles, and then shoots--and misses more often than not.
More serious than the decline in base hits in baseball or elegant passing in basketball is the frayed connection, in our market economy, between optimal competitive behaviors and the social goods that they are supposed to support. . .

When competition fails to yield desired benefits, we modify the rules. . .
After all, the game is for the fans, not the other way around. For the public to continue participating in the game--and to believe in it and benefit from it--those who make the rules must govern with creativity and adaptability.

So, what do you think, sports fans? Market fans? Fans of freedom? Do we have a valid analogy in here somewhere? A better direction for the future?

Notes on last week's post:

You might notice that the history of the People's Republic near the top of today's post is quite a bit darker than the brief one in the BBC piece on the celebration of the 70th anniversary last week. The BBC managed to find an old guy who had lived through the whole history of the Republic and had nothing negative to say about it.

There was a link last week on pioneering Chinese developments in recognition of faces in large crowds, too.

For BurtTC, who had an adverse reaction to the Sue Thompson version of Bonaparte's Retreat, here's one by Glen Campbell. Hope it works out better for you. Bonus: Song is followed by instructions for the line dance in English and Chinese.

Hope you have a good weekend.

Posted by: Open Blogger at 11:25 AM

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1 Hi ho!

Posted by: Duh! at October 12, 2019 11:34 AM (mwIW1)

2 'Sup food?

Posted by: Face Sized Spider at October 12, 2019 11:35 AM (sjdRT)

3 Chinese seem to be treated like slaves.

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 12, 2019 11:36 AM (PUmDY)

4 Now to read.

Posted by: SMH at October 12, 2019 11:37 AM (RU4sa)

5 Thanks for highlighting this awful regime and how its jnfluence has become pervasive.

It reminds me of efforts made by the Olympics in 1936 not to give "offense" to their Nazi hosts.

Way too many powerful people are making a lot of money by colluding with what is an essentially a racist fascist state.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 12, 2019 11:37 AM (EZebt)

6 Some people feel I do not have a punchable face. I tend to disagree with these people.

Posted by: Ed Henry at October 12, 2019 11:38 AM (Pzzpr)

7 Supplies!

Posted by: ChiCom Anal at October 12, 2019 11:38 AM (oVJmc)

8 3 Chinese seem to be treated like slaves.

Moreover, they accept it and expect it.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 11:39 AM (oVJmc)

9 Side affect of growing up not just in America but in a very rural part of the country I just cannot even imagine the mindset and culture developed from centuries of living in crowded areas and the cultural rules developed to keep tensions down in such conditions.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 12, 2019 11:39 AM (cDw3P)

10 Nancy Pelosi would make a good Den Mother. Adam Schiff a good Scoutmaster.

Posted by: Your AI Reality at October 12, 2019 11:40 AM (jRICV)

11
Trump re: Little League World Series:

"I got tired of seeing Japan win"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fi_sVyTNd3w

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2019 11:41 AM (DJFLF)

12 I got to the bottom and found no comments. I missed my chance to boldly scream FIRST to the heavens.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at October 12, 2019 11:44 AM (V3XIk)

13 But Trump won't release his tax returns and made a phone call, which means he's 1000X more worser.
- 40% of the country

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at October 12, 2019 11:44 AM (FiUMj)

14 We have a lot of Chinese and Taiwanese folks where I work. They are very smart with math and numbers. So why was America ahead in the space race et al? Must be that our founders were smart cookies and set up a system where innovation would be rewarded by the free market.

Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (cDw3P)

15 Chuck Todd says NBC News can't 'in good conscience' show video of Trump's 'vicious attacks' on Hunter Biden

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Right. Like NBC has a conscience.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)

16 KT, you missed this one from Quillette

https://quillette.com/2018/12/18/the-children-of-the-revolution/

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (xG/b0)

17 In the 80s, Japan was going to rule the world. That didn't happen, because their economy collapsed.

China's economy can collapse, too. That needs to happen, regardless of the bottom line of Apple and Nike.

They're an aggressive, totalitarian regime and they need to be kicked down the stairs, hard, along with their enablers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (oVJmc)

18 Apple (!) is making a third installment of the Band of Brothers franchise.

https://bit.ly/2q3f9Y0

The new series is based on Donald L. Miller's book, Masters of the Air: America's Bomber Boys Who Fought The Air War Against Nazi Germany, and will focus on members of the Air Force during the Second World War.

That was a great book so I can hope the series will be good at least until it comes in like a shot up B-17 crash landing on the runway.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (+y/Ru)

19 Two things about Red China & USA I remember being astonished about.

#2

If one bunch of folks drive out another, and wear the country's skin, does it make them the same country?

Free France in exile, post-Shah Iran, and Taiwan for example are the presumed-valid governments, where the Nazi-Vichy, muhumid mullahs, and Maoists are usurpers.

Why would a contact with pre-Mao China be considered transferred to Maoist Red China? IOW, Hong Kong should have been returned to... Taiwan.

#1

Nixon throwing our ally Taiwan out of the UN and under the bus, "opening up" to the Reds. It was the beginning of how we got to where we are now.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Columbus just got lucky at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (fBape)

20 To me the eternal irony of totalitarian states is that in order to survive they absolutely need the dynamic energy, innovation, and quest for excellence that comes from free-thinking individuals, while at the same time they absolutely need to destroy it. The death of totalitarianism is ultimately self-inflicted.

The question is how much death and destruction they will inflict along the way.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2019 11:47 AM (mvenn)

21
Chinese seem to be treated like slaves.

Bu they aren't shooting each other in the streets with AR-15s !!!

Posted by: Steve the cur at October 12, 2019 11:47 AM (aKsyK)

22
Chinese seem to be treated like slaves.

Bu they aren't shooting each other in the streets with AR-15s !!!

No, one team has tanks.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 11:49 AM (oVJmc)

23 Kindltot at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM
Thanks, Kindletot.
Great piece. Over the years, I have learned a few things about the Cultural Revolution. I'm surprised that no one ever seemed to highlight the initial Great Terror, though.

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2019 11:49 AM (BVQ+1)

24 I wish we could find more cracks in the internet SJW wall. I looked up something referencing a tv show I like and had to sift through 3 pages of squeeing over the random gay character the show recently plopped into the plotline.

Posted by: Panchito Pistoles at October 12, 2019 11:50 AM (V3XIk)

25 When I play Risk, I try to take Australia. Watch the Chinese on that space.

Posted by: torabora at October 12, 2019 11:51 AM (jRICV)

26 I want the coup plotters in Gitmo

Posted by: Jmel at October 12, 2019 11:54 AM (OeWgo)

27
This whole scenario reminds of that Chinese ( I think) curse wishing you to live in interesting times.

Things certainly ARE interesting, whether for good or bad is open to question, though.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 12, 2019 11:54 AM (KATBx)

28 Ack. ~~post-~~Shah Iran. You KWIM.. Whatev.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Columbus just got lucky at October 12, 2019 12:00 PM (fBape)

29
Hong Kong should have been returned to... Taiwan.

Posted by: mindful webworker - Columbus just got lucky

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Not really. They're both provinces. That would be like Puerto Rico gets statehood so we turn it over to Florida.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 12, 2019 12:03 PM (13CQC)

30 $200 million to endorse shoes? sheesh.

Posted by: mjc at October 12, 2019 12:04 PM (Pg+x7)

31 "Not really. They're both provinces. That would be like Puerto Rico gets statehood so we turn it over to Florida."

Could be interesting, no?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:05 PM (cqNba)

32 i have never won at risk taking australia.

Posted by: mjc at October 12, 2019 12:05 PM (Pg+x7)

33 Nixon throwing our ally Taiwan out of the UN and under the bus, "opening up" to the Reds. It was the beginning of how we got to where we are now.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Columbus just got lucky at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (fBape)

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And Jimmy Carter took it the next step and normalized relations with Beijing almost 40 years ago.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 12, 2019 12:06 PM (EZebt)

34 Simone Gao interviews Steve Bannon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSEhHcFMRbo

I caught this live yesterday. Gao is a very good interviewer and really does her homework.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 12, 2019 12:06 PM (vWMNq)

35 "The BBC managed to find an old guy who had lived through the whole history of the Republic and had nothing negative to say about it."

Which is why he is an old guy who lived through it.

Ipso Feinsteino.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at October 12, 2019 12:06 PM (Ndje9)

36 2 i have never won at risk taking australia.

*******

Take North America early. Only three border territories to defend and reinforcements build up more quickly than the others. Australia is a losing position.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2019 12:07 PM (mvenn)

37
Chinese seem to be treated like slaves.

Moreover, they accept it and expect it.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

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That's the biggest threat of China IMO. A billion+ people, 2500 years of thinking like ants.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at October 12, 2019 12:07 PM (13CQC)

38 Simone Gao interviews Steve Bannon; One month ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_xDQs5M7lHw

Will Hong Kong be another Tienanmen?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 12, 2019 12:07 PM (vWMNq)

39 hola chamacos y chamacas

Posted by: chimichango at October 12, 2019 12:08 PM (B+t5k)

40 ... the game risk was invented by albert lamorisse, who also produced the short film "the red balloon".

Posted by: mjc at October 12, 2019 12:09 PM (Pg+x7)

41 Do the Chineses people have an equivalent to a 2nd Amendment recognized Right?

No?

Gee....wonder why that is?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:11 PM (cqNba)

42 Always thought Chinese students coming into the West was basically to steal knowledge and information.
And the scarfs are a little to much like Mao come back.

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 12:13 PM (ZCEU2)

43 42 And the scarfs are a little to much like Mao come back.

He has. Winnie the Pooh has the same power now.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 12, 2019 12:15 PM (vWMNq)

44 China had a period of freedom and expansion during the Song dynasty, which was a period of flourishing of the arts, economy, agriculture and invention.
during this period it had trade relations as far afield as Persia, and even had an embassy from Byzantium.

It ended.

Posted by: Kindltot at October 12, 2019 12:17 PM (xG/b0)

45 If we lose a hundred million people it would be devastating. If they lose a hundred million, they can just shake it off.

This is not a good equation.

Posted by: kallisto at October 12, 2019 12:17 PM (DJFLF)

46 "And the scarfs are a little to much like Mao come back."

Yeh...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2naSzb1psU

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:17 PM (cqNba)

47 Bannon constantly mentions this guy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wang_Qishan

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 12, 2019 12:17 PM (vWMNq)

48 Because every now and then, you just need a chuckle.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/345074/

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:20 PM (cqNba)

49

California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday signed a law that will make the state the first to allow employers, co-workers and teachers to seek gun violence restraining orders against other people.

Newsom signed a companion bill allowing the gun violence restraining orders to last one and five years, although the gun owners could petition to end those restrictions earlier.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2019 12:23 PM (aKsyK)

50 VIA all you need to see why Democrats want kids to vote

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 12:23 PM (ZCEU2)

51 "VIA all you need to see why Democrats want kids to vote"

Yup

A generation of Scoldilocks.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:24 PM (cqNba)

52

The principal of a New Orleans high school turned down a free lunch offered to the school's teachers by Chick-Fil-A "out of respect to our LGBTQ staff."

According to a statement from Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of Lusher High School, Chick-Fil-A's values don't align with the school's.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

53 If we lose a hundred million people it would be devastating. If they lose a hundred million, they can just shake it off.

This is not a good equation.
Posted by: kallisto

1.3 to 1.5 billion people.
There are 300 million more men than women.
They could lose those 300 men million without missing them.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2019 12:25 PM (DlU13)

54 with the proper monitoring of brain waves and vanguard technology we won't need red flag laws and restraint orders. progress!

Posted by: mjc at October 12, 2019 12:26 PM (Pg+x7)

55 "According to a statement from Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of Lusher High School, Chick-Fil-A's values don't align with the school's."

A lot of truth in that simple statement.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:26 PM (cqNba)

56 >>26
I want the coup plotters in Gitmo

LOLOL

Posted by: Bagpipe Bill at October 12, 2019 12:26 PM (Pzzpr)

57 Talking about the guy interviewed who lived through the revolution and had nothing bad to say about it.

There was a series called Red Empire that deal with the Soviet period in Russia that I have mentioned before. It is quite good. It has quite a few interviews with people who lived through the revolutions and the subsequent terrors. Made in '91, IIRC, you still had die hard old commies talking about how great it was.

People are weird animals. They have a tendency to wall paper over bad memories, especially if they were involved somehow.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:27 PM (ycWCI)

58 Any news or rank speculation on the special election in Louisiana? Probably too early I know..,

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2019 12:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

59 Chuck Todd says NBC News can't 'in good conscience' show video of Trump's 'vicious attacks' on Hunter Biden

Loyalty to the Kleptocracy. I can respect that, Chuck.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 12:29 PM (Ydn2k)

60
Nixon throwing our ally Taiwan out of the UN and under the bus, "opening up" to the Reds. It was the beginning of how we got to where we are now.
Posted by: mindful webworker - Columbus just got lucky at October 12, 2019 11:45 AM (fBape)

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I believe that was Carter. I forget if that was before or after that he he disclosed the existence of stealth technology to the world at a press conference. Or the timing relative to overthrowing the legitimate election outcome in Zimbabwe and giving them them the Mugabe regime.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 12, 2019 12:29 PM (t5m5e)

61 58
Any news or rank speculation on the special election in Louisiana? Probably too early I know..,

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2019 12:29 PM (Ed8Zd)

Nothing special about it. It's our general.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at October 12, 2019 12:29 PM (CQ3Qb)

62 Texas Ball!!

Posted by: LASue at October 12, 2019 12:30 PM (Ed8Zd)

63 Did she decide she'd have a soda?

Posted by: Cosmic Charlie at October 12, 2019 12:31 PM (PUmDY)

64 I wish we could find more cracks in the internet SJW wall.
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I don't know, some of those cracks look suspicious.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 12:31 PM (LxqES)

65 "The Houston Rockets, James Harden and a Healthy Economy?"

Reading that a disturbing thought occurred to me.
Maybe Xi has been playing us all along.
Maybe he just got Trump to throw him in the briar patch.

Before, China was dependent on us buying junk from them, pouring money into their economy.
Now, with businesses relocating manufacturing to other 3rd world sweatshops, China instead has a massive amount of U.S. tech, entertainment, and agriculture dependent on Chinese purchases to remain functional. And particularly with agriculture, that is now going to soar.
And how will that impact our tax base?
Particularly since, with things like movies, the American market is a loss leader suitable only as a tax write off, while the real money is all from China.

China has nearly 5 times our population to absorb economic "difficulties", not to mention all that debt.
Have we just negotiated ourselves into a colonial possession of China but worse - sending raw materials and cultural artifacts and getting nothing but debt forgiveness in return?

Posted by: Sam at October 12, 2019 12:31 PM (ohyxL)

66

California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday signed a law that will make the state the first to allow employers, co-workers and teachers to seek gun violence restraining orders against other people.

Newsom signed a companion bill allowing the gun violence restraining orders to last one and five years, although the gun owners could petition to end those restrictions earlier.

Any civil liability for bringing false charges?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 12:31 PM (oVJmc)

67 Bonaparte's Retreat?

I'm more interested in the Sailor's Hornpipe.

Posted by: Shep Smith at October 12, 2019 12:32 PM (LxqES)

68 I have a Chinese scroll-type painting, found at an (upscale) garage sale. I asked a Chinese friend to translate the writing on the front and back. Blah blah, rock-and-water genre, so-and-so's lake house... Then she said, "That's odd. There's no date, and there should be a date. Oh. It was probably painted during the Cultural Revolution."

Apparently it was Not Done to paint during that time, but barely passable to have older paintings or sell them. Hence no date.

My friend was one of the graduate students who was allowed to stay in the US after the Tianaman Square Massacre. She was originally in physics and doing well. Once she was granted asylum...she immediately transferred to Economics

Yeah the Chinese people get beat on a lot by their government, but that just means the survivors are really good at telling their masters what they want to hear. I hope she makes a killing on Wall Street and rubs it in their faces.

Posted by: Sabrina Chase at October 12, 2019 12:32 PM (MjdP3)

69 legalinsurrection.com/turkeys erdogan threatens eu oppose our attack on kurds and we will send 3 6 million migrants to you

Democrats going to accuse Erdogan of prid quo pro?

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 12:32 PM (ZCEU2)

70 "Any civil liability for bringing false charges?"

I hope not.

Cause I can see a lot of folk filing against the Governor.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:33 PM (cqNba)

71 And Jimmy Carter took it the next step and normalized relations with Beijing almost 40 years ago.
Posted by: San Franpsycho at October 12, 2019 12:06 PM (EZebt)

Look on the bright side: it was practically the only time Democrats supported normalcy.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:33 PM (GRbI+)

72 Gee, imagine what our CIA could do to curtail Chinese espionage if they weren't so involved in subverting domestic politics.

(And playing for the other team, as well.)

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 12:34 PM (oVJmc)

73 California Gov. Gavin Newsom on Friday signed a law that will make the state the first to allow employers, co-workers and teachers to seek gun violence restraining orders against other people.

Newsom signed a companion bill allowing the gun violence restraining orders to last one and five years, although the gun owners could petition to end those restrictions earlier.

Any civil liability for bringing false charges?
Posted by: Mr. Peebles

Bwahahahahahahaha!!!!

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2019 12:35 PM (DlU13)

74 >>Gee, imagine what our CIA could do to curtail Chinese espionage if they weren't so involved in subverting domestic politics.

A whole bunch of Chinese CIA assets got rolled up when Hillary was SOS and putting classified information on her private server.

So what does the CIA do? Conspire to help elect her president of course.

Posted by: JackStraw at October 12, 2019 12:36 PM (ZLI7S)

75 Mornin' Horde. it's snowing and snow on the leaves and patio furniture, ground is too warm so it's melting there but damn I am not ready for this shit. You stole my adulthood you warmers!

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 12:37 PM (xUvz+)

76 Chickity China the Chinese chicken
You have a drumstick and your brain stops tickin'.....

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 12, 2019 12:37 PM (Z+IKu)

77 I believe that was Carter. I forget if that was before or after that he he disclosed the existence of stealth technology to the world at a press conference. Or the timing relative to overthrowing the legitimate election outcome in Zimbabwe and giving them them the Mugabe regime.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at October 12, 2019 12:29 PM (t5m5e)

After which he later validated the results of the election that saddled Venezuela with Chavez.

So he continued to be useless and destructive.

Fortunately the Magic Negro is too lazy to do that. His record as a disaster will have to rely solely on his time in office.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:37 PM (GRbI+)

78 "Free Speech is Killing Us," the new lefty paradigm insists.

I hope so! That's exactly why it is the single most important right we have, and the 2A exists to protect it.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at October 12, 2019 12:38 PM (NVYyb)

79
Ha!

Ha Ha Ha.

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assets/2019/10/Screen-Shot-2019-10-11-at-9.32.22-

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Sad.

Posted by: naturalfake at October 12, 2019 12:38 PM (kauXV)

80
This is the stone cold truth:

https://i2.wp.com/www.powerlineblog.com/ed-assets/2019/10/IMG_9194.jpg?w=725&ssl=1

Posted by: naturalfake at October 12, 2019 12:39 PM (kauXV)

81
Instead of collective poverty and marching Red Guards, there are skyscrapers, new airports, highways, railway stations, and bullet trains.

If you're in one of the showcase industrial coastal cities, sure. Assuming you aren't in one of the many ghost cities that were built on the mistaken assumption that they would spontaneously fill up with industrious, well-educated professional workers (actually, they were built in order to plunder the ChiCom government subsidies for new construction).

Go 50 miles or so outside city limits and you're back in the 6th Century, with ox carts, barefoot peasants, mud huts and people shitting in the street because that's what their parents did.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 12, 2019 12:39 PM (eXA4G)

82 Seems to me that China became rich because the wealth and jobs of the US was transferred to them by Quislings of the GOPe and Dems.

Led by people like Mitt Romney after propagandizing the US public into thinking that by Free Trade they meant Free on both sides.

But what they meant was the trade would be free for China not for the US.

Only now are we changing that back and you can see the anger and money going into wrecking the man who is doing it.

It's not just Dems and the Chamber of Commerce and Wall Street that's behind the attacks on Trump, it's China and to a lesser extent Europe and Russia.

That's why it's so widespread the money being doled out must be in the billions. And that tells you just how "Fair" that Free Trade really was.

Hopefully even without Trump we won't let them steal our lives and livelihood again but the lies are still being repeated over and over despite the existence of the facts.

Posted by: jakee308 - Hylozoist at October 12, 2019 12:39 PM (cxIsI)

83 Glen Campbell played on "Pet Songs". I learned that last night.

Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:39 PM (Tnijr)

84 "pet Sounds" not songs sheez

Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (Tnijr)

85 "Go 50 miles or so outside city limits and you're back in the 6th Century, with ox carts, barefoot peasants, mud huts and people shitting in the street because that's what their parents did."

Yet California is the exact opposite.

One goes INTO the city, to find these conditions.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (cqNba)

86 [i[Any civil liability for bringing false charges?

Comrade, please. There are no false charges if the person is guilty.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (CE5C/)

87 I don't know, some of those cracks look suspicious.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

And smell funny, too.

Not ha-ha funny, either.

Posted by: JT at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (arJlL)

88 China is the model for the world. All nations united under a single government as efficient and pragmatic as China could solve so many problems and injustices.

Posted by: No at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (9LxBx)

89 Drudge must really care that one of his fellow turd burglars got canned

approaching 24 hrs on the headline

kant even

Posted by: REDACTED at October 12, 2019 12:41 PM (AQBtr)

90 55 "According to a statement from Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of Lusher High School, Chick-Fil-A's values don't align with the school's."

A lot of truth in that simple statement.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:26 PM (cqNba)

And he knows this ... how? What he means is their values don't align with HIS.

Which makes one wonder if young Corbett is a pederast in his own right.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:41 PM (GRbI+)

91 Glen Campbell played on "Pet Songs". I learned that last night.

He played on a shitload of stuff when he was with The Wrecking Crew, too.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 12:41 PM (oVJmc)

92 Hey guys..

"No"s sock is here.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:41 PM (cqNba)

93 China is the model for the world. All nations united under a single government as efficient and pragmatic as China could solve so many problems and injustices.
Posted by: No at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (9LxBx)

Such as wiping out Islam? And vagrants?

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:42 PM (GRbI+)

94 "And he knows this ... how? What he means is their values don't align with HIS. "

have you been in any schools lately?

To walk the halls, look at the posters, read the notices, look at school clubs?

I would say that this Principal is correct in his statement.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:43 PM (cqNba)

95

Posted by: No at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (9LxBx)

That's retarded, Thomas Friedman.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM (oVJmc)

96 "According to a statement from Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of Lusher High School, Chick-Fil-A's values don't align with the school's."

That guy is full of shit. And cock. Mostly cock. Probably
a pedo too.

Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM (Tnijr)

97
China is the model for the world. All nations united under a single government as efficient and pragmatic as China could solve so many problems and injustices.
Posted by: No at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (9LxBx)

Yes. Billing the family of a political dissident for the bullet the secret police put into his brain is exceedingly efficient, and parsimonious of public funds.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM (eXA4G)

98 Ace has recently posted about how "Free Trade" was supposed to (per WallStreet propaganda) convert China into a capitalist Nirvana, as if "capitalism" is like gravity, a precise law of the universe that delivers liberty and freedom. But that was always a lie, and "capitalism" untethered from the Laws of Liberty is a Pandora's Box of evil (e.g. Google serving your Commie Nation with SocialCreditSystem controls/punishments).

Our nation is founded in Liberty, and as our WallStreet Elite went globalist, our DC Gov Cartel went along for the ride, instead of standing for Liberty. Our monetary policy of easy money served the oligarchs, as the nation was led into the current $250+T deficit, when counting unfunded liabilities. (but the currency/debt play did fund a big military, wasteful or not)

China (at least since Mao) is founded in bondage to the state. But they have capitalism. First, from the box quote above, "villagers everywhere used the opportunity to quietly reconnect with the
past, as they opened black markets, shared out collective assets, took
back the land, and opened underground factories." That was "capitalism" emerging despite the commie state.

But the state itself practiced capitalism, with the state controlling the capital, and the human capital was also owned (abused) by them. People tend to think "but that is communism, not capitalism". I say no, it is how capitalism works inside communism. Central Control.

The confusion is in the false narrative that we are a capitalist nation. NO. We are a nation founded in liberty. We impose a ton of rules on domestic and foreign trade, and to the extent DC writes laws/policy to serve "TheMarkets" (corporations/globalists) not the people ... to that degree we are becoming a centrally controlled communist (variant) nation ourselves. "DeepState" owns the markets, and most middle class trust their retirement funds to the "money runners". BigMutualFund invests in China where they escape all our laws/costs that support/defend Liberty. (e.g. labor/pollution laws, property rights, bill of rights, civil rights)

At the moment we are having our own great awakening, to the clarion call for Liberty, versus the surrender to corporate bondage, which itself is in the hand of (DeepState) oligarchs and groups like CFR and Atlantic Council, who are currently at war with POTUS and his supporters.

Liberty comes first, then economic principles might be useful once the rules of the game are established. Capitalism is not a law of nature that results in liberty, it can more easily result in tyranny. In the end we fight for our rights, not for the rights of our enemies to enter our markets, or for corporate America to write our laws to pad their profit margins. That end is near?

Posted by: illiniwek at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM (Cus5s)

99 To walk the halls, look at the posters, read the notices, look at school clubs?

I would say that this Principal is correct in his statement.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:43 PM (cqNba)

Chances of non-approved sentiments being expressed: zero.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM (GRbI+)

100 Funny pic I saw was a map of the CA blackout areas. The caption. "Welcome Green New Deal Beta Testers!"

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 12:45 PM (xUvz+)

101 Yes. Billing the family of a political dissident for the bullet the secret police put into his brain is exceedingly efficient, and parsimonious of public funds.
Posted by: IllTemperedCur at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM (eXA4G)

I can't see the Democrat party ever been that efficient or parsimonious.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:45 PM (GRbI+)

102 China is the model for the world. All nations united under a single government as efficient and pragmatic as China could solve so many problems and injustices.
Posted by: No at October 12, 2019 12:40 PM (9LxBx)

All nations united under ... Donald Trump.

Bring it on!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:46 PM (GRbI+)

103 So when are you moving to Chy-Na, no?

Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:47 PM (Tnijr)

104 Been at least 10 years since I saw a web article about China building complete cities with only a maintenance crew to watch over it. Wonder if those were ever filled or left to decay like a single building left without care and maintenance.

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 12:47 PM (ZCEU2)

105 100 Funny pic I saw was a map of the CA blackout areas. The caption. "Welcome Green New Deal Beta Testers!"
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 12:45 PM (xUvz+)

I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:47 PM (ycWCI)

106 Gardening Thread is up. Or you can stick around here with the human beings.

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2019 12:47 PM (BVQ+1)

107 I can't see the Democrat party ever been that efficient or parsimonious.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:45 PM (GRbI+)

This bullet cost $3000!? Why the guy across the street says they only billed him $1000 when they shot his uncle six months ago!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:48 PM (ycWCI)

108 I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts.

They're the ones with shopping carts full of copper.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 12:48 PM (nIvDu)

109 "I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts"

It's like camping, without the smores.

Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:49 PM (Tnijr)

110 I saw something that mentioned that in spite of the power cuts, wildfires still broke out. I am betting they will not reexamine and try something different however.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:50 PM (ycWCI)

111 The conservative argument for shutting off power to residents.

And the carbon neutral burial methods used for those who died.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 12:51 PM (cqNba)

112 Kyle Frese, the leaker arrested last week, had a couple dozen media followers in his Twitter account. He also had interesting Never Trumpers like Alexandria Chalupa's sister, Andrea, he followed, too. Frese seemed to travel all over the world, every couple of months. Would not be surprised if he gave info to his girlfriend, while he was selling to others. The problem is that the EDVA is headed by Rosenstein's former chief of staff, so doubt if he's going to be too tough, unless forced. I do find it interesting that he constantly berated Snowden as a traitor, but he saw himself as a member of the #Resistance, so golden.

Posted by: Ever at October 12, 2019 12:52 PM (ZZDMQ)

113 "I saw something that mentioned that in spite of the power cuts, wildfires still broke out. "

It's like climate change. We could do everything in the Green New Deal and more and the climate would still change.

Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:52 PM (Tnijr)

114 I saw something that mentioned that in spite of the power cuts, wildfires still broke out.

Yes, down south. Thing is, you can instantly locate a broken line. An illegal's campsite? Not so easy.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 12:53 PM (Z1eux)

115 It's like climate change. We could do everything in the Green New Deal and more and the climate would still change.
Posted by: freaked at October 12, 2019 12:52 PM (Tnijr)

Aka 'Weather'.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:54 PM (ycWCI)

116 I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:47 PM (ycWCI)

#BlackoutsMatter

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:56 PM (GRbI+)

117 Yes, down south. Thing is, you can instantly locate a broken line. An illegal's campsite? Not so easy.
Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 12:53 PM (Z1eux)

FLIR on a helicopter gunship. Problem solved.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:56 PM (GRbI+)

118 I do find it interesting that he constantly berated Snowden as a traitor, but he saw himself as a member of the #Resistance, so golden.
Posted by: Ever at October 12, 2019 12:52 PM (ZZDMQ)

I'd check his resistance experimentally.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 12:57 PM (GRbI+)

119 He played on a shitload of stuff when he was with The Wrecking Crew, too.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
------
'Shitload' may be an understatement.

As a session guitarist, he played on a lot of Nashville-produced recordings. The list is staggering, really.

Everything from Wayne Newton to the Beach Boys. Everly Bros., Ricky Nelson, the list goes on and on.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 12:58 PM (LxqES)

120 I saw the term "Calizuela." I like it and it so dead on that I expect an internet blackout of the term by the fascists that control Calizuela.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 12, 2019 12:59 PM (pw+jk)

121 I enjoy it when our power goes out. Happens 2-3x a year. We have candles, batteries for the radio, board games, camping equipment, a propane BBQ. We have fun.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 12, 2019 12:59 PM (Xa6ye)

122

A bit of good news--the closest Robert Francis O'Rourke will ever get to the Oval Office is with a guided tour.

Posted by: irongrampa at October 12, 2019 12:59 PM (KATBx)

123 Gardners are human beings too.
Speaking of which need to get out and go yard stuff.

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 12:59 PM (ZCEU2)

124 I'd check his resistance experimentally.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara
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*opens case containing Variac, ammeter, cables, and an assortment of clamps*

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 01:00 PM (LxqES)

125 120
I saw the term "Calizuela." I like it and it so dead on that I expect an
internet blackout of the term by the fascists that control Calizuela.

That was the page title. Did you notice the page file name was Bolifornia.html ?

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 12, 2019 01:01 PM (vWMNq)

126 "*opens case containing Variac, ammeter, cables, and an assortment of clamps*"

Don't forget the two slices of white bread

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 01:01 PM (cqNba)

127 I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 12:47 PM (ycWCI)

Those it didn't affect. Odd how the areas around San Fran and Sacramento weren't affected but everything else all around them were. Welcome to the new glorious people's workers soviet state comrades. Electricity is only for members of the politburo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2019 01:01 PM (vyRol)

128 100 Funny pic I saw was a map of the CA blackout areas. The caption. "Welcome Green New Deal Beta Testers!"

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 12:45 PM (xUvz+)

----
I saw that too.

NOTE that there is a reverse peninsula that includes Scat Franpsycho and Scatomento where power was still on. I wonder why?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 12, 2019 01:02 PM (pw+jk)

129 I enjoy it when our power goes out. Happens 2-3x a year. We have candles, batteries for the radio, board games, camping equipment, a propane BBQ. We have fun.
Posted by: Nurse ratched
-------

For the first 24 hrs., it's an adventure. Then the novelty begins to wear off as food spoils, no hot water, no way to recharge the batteries, etc., etc.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 01:02 PM (LxqES)

130 121 I enjoy it when our power goes out. Happens 2-3x a year. We have candles, batteries for the radio, board games, camping equipment, a propane BBQ. We have fun.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at October 12, 2019 12:59 PM (Xa6ye)

I have actually been pretty lucky in that respect. The only time I can remember the power going out in the last ten years where I lived was when I was in Louisville after an Ice Storm. Out for 5 days, I think.

It was comfortable camping. And very cool to observe when the power came back on. As I said at the time, it is weird to see your breath steam while watching TV in the living room.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:02 PM (ycWCI)

131 Those it didn't affect. Odd how the areas around San
Fran and Sacramento weren't affected but everything else all around
them were. Welcome to the new glorious people's workers soviet state
comrades. Electricity is only for members of the politburo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2019 01:01 PM (vyRol)

===
Great minds think alike.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 12, 2019 01:02 PM (pw+jk)

132 No power to a metropolitan area would probably not be a good idea.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:04 PM (ycWCI)

133 Great minds think alike.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 12, 2019 01:02 PM (pw+jk)

Yes. That really stood out on the map was how San Fran was carved out from everything else for miles around it. I wonder if the proles sitting in the dark noticed that too before the power went off?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2019 01:07 PM (vyRol)

134 It's unlikely that power lines are causing brush fires in the urban areas.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 01:07 PM (oVJmc)

135 To walk the halls, look at the posters, read the notices, look at school clubs?

I would say that this Principal is correct in his statement.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice

"Guys! How to suck dick in three easy steps!"

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2019 01:09 PM (DlU13)

136 Don't blame us.

Posted by: Wi Tu Lo and Sum Ting Wong at October 12, 2019 01:09 PM (EgshT)

137 illiniwek at October 12, 2019 12:44 PM
Interesting take. Thanks.

Posted by: KT at October 12, 2019 01:10 PM (BVQ+1)

138 Some cum guzzling soy boi agiprop with purple tie is on FOX 'quoting' a soldier who said, "For the first time ever I am ashamed by my Commander in Chief" regarding Turking-Kurds and challenging some legislator to denounce Trump.

I's just tell the cum bucket "That unless proven otherwise I will assume you just made that soldier quote up." and the usual STFU DIAF etc.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at October 12, 2019 01:10 PM (1g7ch)

139 Those it didn't affect. Odd how the areas around San Fran and Sacramento weren't affected but everything else all around them were. Welcome to the new glorious people's workers soviet state comrades. Electricity is only for members of the politburo

Posted by: TheQuietMan

===

Great minds think alike.
Posted by: Jukin

Not totally true. They are scared shitless about turning off power to Oakland.
No power = no EBT's working = Purge II Electric-less boogaloo.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2019 01:12 PM (DlU13)

140 It's for the chirruns.

Posted by: Gavin Blewsome at October 12, 2019 01:13 PM (EgshT)

141 The principal of a New Orleans high school turned
down a free lunch offered to the school's teachers by Chick-Fil-A "out
of respect to our LGBTQ staff."

According to a statement from Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of
Lusher High School, Chick-Fil-A's values don't align with the school's.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

Yeah probably doesn't fit in with left wing indoctrination and kids with shitty grades who get participation trophies for existing.

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2019 01:15 PM (vyRol)

142 140 It's for the chirruns.
Posted by: Gavin Blewsome at October 12, 2019 01:13 PM (EgshT)

Odd. I am watching a video on Blizzard's brand of newspeak, and a commercial against Bevin here in Kentucky popped up. No mention of his opponent but posed the question 'Did you know Matt Bevin worked to get rid of healthcare for Children!?!'

Which children, you may ask? I dunno and the ad is very short on actual details, just poses question and makes opinion statement like 'This makes me sick!' etc, etc.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:18 PM (ycWCI)

143 Posted this earlier...After further reflection, I think PDT has synthetic alien dragon blood. I mean he delivers a kick ass speech in Mn, goes home delivers a kick ass trade deal the next day and then hops on a plane and delivers a kick ass speech in La. I think he truly is America's Warrior.

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at October 12, 2019 01:19 PM (xkudx)

144 They fired me from teaching because they knew my baby was Cherokee.

Posted by: Elizabeth Warpaint at October 12, 2019 01:19 PM (Ndje9)

145 Oh, I'm liking this article (remove carriage return):

https://spectator.org/
the-greatness-of-donald-trump/

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 01:19 PM (NAs56)

146 Some cum guzzling soy boi agiprop with purple tie is on FOX 'quoting' a soldier who said, "For the first time ever I am ashamed by my Commander in Chief"
-------

If this guy actually exists, then a I have a lesson for him that he should have learned long ago.

It happens all of the time that troops don't like, or don't agree with actions by the chain of command.

Tough. Get over it asshole, or get out. A key element of the armed forces effectiveness is loyalty. If you don't feel that to everyone around you and up the ladder, then you're in the wrong place.

I don't mean a bootlicking sycophancy, but a willingness to follow orders without denigrating your superiors. It is critical to morale.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 01:21 PM (LxqES)

147 Broke: Blackout

Woke: Renaissance experience

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 12, 2019 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

148 Question for the Horde:

Is Shep's departure from Fox News mean he is going to CNN or PMSNBC or are those two networks already full of cum guzzling surprise anal rapists?

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at October 12, 2019 01:22 PM (pw+jk)

149 I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts.

Do they realize that they can really enjoy themselves again whenever they like, just by flipping the main circuit breaker to "off?"

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (GRbI+)

150 FRIED CHICKEN IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (LxqES)

151 147 Broke: Blackout

Woke: Renaissance experience
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at October 12, 2019 01:21 PM (+y/Ru)

I like this usage. Let's try:

Broke: Child abuse

Woke: Trans education!

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:24 PM (ycWCI)

152 I am waiting for articles finding a few people who really enjoyed the blackouts.

Do they realize that they can really enjoy themselves again whenever they like, just by flipping the main circuit breaker to "off?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara

Wait! You mean we can do that without Big Daddy Gub'mint making us?

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2019 01:25 PM (DlU13)

153 150 FRIED CHICKEN IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!
Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (LxqES)

Tasty, delicious cultural appropriation.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:25 PM (ycWCI)

154 This bullet cost $3000!? Why the guy across the street says they only billed him $1000 when they shot his uncle six months ago!

*******

Beware gun "buyback" programs, but especially when the flyers say to bring one bullet for each gun you are turning in.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2019 01:25 PM (mvenn)

155 Do they realize that they can really enjoy themselves again whenever they like, just by flipping the main circuit breaker to "off?"
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (GRbI+)

Lack of control is part of the kink, evidently.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:25 PM (ycWCI)

156 150 FRIED CHICKEN IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!
Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (LxqES)

So is wearing a jock strap!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 01:26 PM (GRbI+)

157 Tasty, delicious cultural appropriation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD
--------

Hold it....you're Greek, ain't you?

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:26 PM (LxqES)

158 FRIED CHICKEN IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!
Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (LxqES)

Tasty, delicious cultural appropriation.
Posted by: Aetius451AD

Popeye's for fried chicken.
Chick-fil-A for sammiches.
Cowboy Chicken and Sam's for rotisserie chicken.

Posted by: rickb223 at October 12, 2019 01:26 PM (DlU13)

159 FRIED CHICKEN IS CULTURAL APPROPRIATION!

Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:23 PM (LxqES)

Al Sharpton: Them Greek homos stole our fried chicken!

Posted by: TheQuietMan at October 12, 2019 01:27 PM (vyRol)

160 On the sports aspect, & this is tangential at best:

I never watch the NBA, so I don't know or care what it does with its game.

MLB has dealt with its own worst despot-- the fan-abhorrent pitching change-- by decreeing that next year, every pitcher must either face a minimum of 3 batters, or finish an inning-- whichever happens first.

That should help! There is nothing more boring in sports than a game with 15 pitching changes.

Now, they need to do MORE to cut down on "visits to the mound," too.

Posted by: mnw at October 12, 2019 01:27 PM (Cssks)

161
Defense is keeping Muh 'Horns in the game.

Offense better up their game and start scoring or defense is gonna wear out in the 4th.

Hook'em Horns!!!

Posted by: naturalfake at October 12, 2019 01:28 PM (kauXV)

162 Now, they need to do MORE to cut down on "visits to the mound," too.
Posted by: mnw at October 12, 2019 01:27 PM (Cssks)/i]

Bluetooth, FTW!

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 01:28 PM (GRbI+)

163 Hold it....you're Greek, ain't you?
Posted by: Al Sharpton at October 12, 2019 01:26 PM (LxqES)

Italian, but at least you are around the right sea, Al.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:29 PM (ycWCI)

164 test

Posted by: pawn at October 12, 2019 01:29 PM (+LeF+)

165 *winds up, hesitates, puts up his hand*

Hold it, I got a text here....

Posted by: The Pitcher at October 12, 2019 01:30 PM (LxqES)

166 164 test
Posted by: pawn at October 12, 2019 01:29 PM (+LeF+)

Seems to work.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:31 PM (ycWCI)

167 the fan-abhorrent pitching change-- by decreeing that next year, every pitcher must either face a minimum of 3 batters, or finish an inning-- whichever happens first.

I like it. And if you feign injury, that's fine, but we won't see you for a week.

Posted by: t-bird at October 12, 2019 01:31 PM (nIvDu)

168 I caught a bit of baseball for the first time in years on the work break room TV.

Re: batting helmets. A couple I saw, I am wondering why they do not just go full gothic steel helmet.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:32 PM (ycWCI)

169 http://bit.ly/2MzzKLl
*******
Convicted ex-CIA official says Ukraine intelligence official was no whistleblower - Kerry Picket

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 12, 2019 01:34 PM (BqBId)

170 Re: batting helmets. A couple I saw, I am wondering why they do not just go full gothic steel helmet.
Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:32 PM (ycWCI)

This is why more players are wearing helmets that protect part of the face:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlbXtg_-31c

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 01:34 PM (GRbI+)

171 At least the Horns get a FG to close the 1st half

Posted by: xa4 nasal radiator at October 12, 2019 01:35 PM (xkudx)

172 >>Any civil liability for bringing false charges?

LOLOL

Posted by: Bagpipe Bill at October 12, 2019 01:36 PM (Pzzpr)

173 The Hill
@thehill
Attorney General Bill Barr: "This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values."

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 12, 2019 01:36 PM (BqBId)

174 This is why more players are wearing helmets that protect part of the face:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlbXtg_-31c
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 01:34 PM (GRbI+)

Ouch.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 01:36 PM (ycWCI)

175 This is why more players are wearing helmets that protect part of the face:

******

Tell me that's not the Randy Johnson and the pigeon clip.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2019 01:39 PM (mvenn)

176 Maybe pitching changes in baseball should be like "on-the-fly" line changes in hockey.

Posted by: Muldoon at October 12, 2019 01:41 PM (mvenn)

177 Who are the Brain Police?

Posted by: pawn at October 12, 2019 01:41 PM (+LeF+)

178 The Hill
@thehill
Attorney General Bill Barr: "This is not decay. This is organized destruction. Secularists and their allies have marshaled all the forces of mass communication, popular culture, the entertainment industry, and academia in an unremitting assault on religion & traditional values."
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at October 12, 2019 01:36 PM (BqBId)

Bullseye.

Now the media will call him biased , can't be impartial, and say he must resign IMMEDIATELY

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2019 01:43 PM (NFEMn)

179 According to a statement from Dr. Steven Corbett, principal of
Lusher High School, Chick-Fil-A's values don't align with the school's.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at October 12, 2019 12:24 PM (aKsyK)

"Dr." Steve needs an attitude adjustment.

Like with a baseball bat.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at October 12, 2019 01:44 PM (Z+IKu)

180 Who are the Brain Police?
Posted by: pawn at October 12, 2019 01:41 PM (+LeF+)

They're coming to arrest me

Posted by: JoeF. at October 12, 2019 01:45 PM (NFEMn)

181 Dog finally needed to go out, of course right when I was about to eat my home made chicken noodle soup I made this morning. Snow was coming down pretty good. Got to the porch and the dog looked at me like WTF? All I could do is look back at her and say, I know. I know. Thanks Greta Thundercyborg, you stole my adulthood!

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 01:51 PM (xUvz+)

182 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ZKm5FwhIwU

Hong Kong girls 1954 ... if they loved you they wouldn't charge.

This guy has 100s of his own short video clips from all over the world covering about 50 years.

Posted by: Enquiring Minds Want to Know at October 12, 2019 01:52 PM (vWMNq)

183 Some leftist douche was bragging about glitter bombing PDT in Brogudishu on Thursday. Now is shocked that secret service is trying to find him. Rotten little fuck. I hope he serves time.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 01:54 PM (xUvz+)

184 I was in Shanghai last year. City of 20 million people. Stayed at the nice Marriott in Tomorrow Square. There for a week and saw one, ONE beggar. Asked someone why that was and their answer was, "Oh, they just go away". Nice place.

Posted by: JC. Just JC. at October 12, 2019 01:55 PM (377Zs)

185 Any moron ever been to Thailand? Looking at some resorts etc. it looks beautiful! Wife doesn't seem as excited. Trying to help sell her on the trip.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:02 PM (xUvz+)

186 Well, well, would you look at that. It seems that the gay divorcee Ilhan Omar participated in the Antifa riot at PDT's rally in MN.

https://twitter.com/T_S_P_O_O_K_Y/status/1182989551381467137

Posted by: IrishEi at October 12, 2019 02:03 PM (sGotD)

187 " Any moron ever been to Thailand?"

Been to Pattaya Beach.

Being married myself, and not an excessive drinker, I was unimpressed.

But....lots of older, portly European males with sandels and socks seem to like walking arm in arm with their Thai girlfriends there.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 02:06 PM (cqNba)

188 Well, well, would you look at that. It seems that the gay divorcee Ilhan Omar participated in the Antifa riot at PDT's rally in MN.

Yep, taking part in politically-driven violence...isn't that usually called.....TERRORISM?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 02:12 PM (oVJmc)

189 But....lots of older, portly European males with sandels and socks seem to like walking arm in arm with their Thai girlfriends there.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 02:06 PM
Hmmm, interesting, good to know.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:13 PM (xUvz+)

190 Posted by: Mr. Peebles at October 12, 2019 02:12 PM

It does bear a striking resemblance to her, but not sure it is her. I mean I can believe she's that stupid for sure, would have been cool to see someone pull her mask down to see if it was.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:16 PM (xUvz+)

191 Go Horns!! Tied 10-10 in the 3rd quarter.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 12, 2019 02:17 PM (S+f+m)

192 Any moron ever been to Thailand? Looking at some resorts etc. it looks beautiful! Wife doesn't seem as excited. Trying to help sell her on the trip.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:02 PM (xUvz+)
~~~~~

I'd stay away from SE Asia for a while. Dengue Fever is endemic and the State Dept. has issued an alert.

Muslims in the country are always complaining that they are being oppressed by the government. Probably true, but you know how twitchy those musselmen can get when they're upset. Also, there were a couple of explosions in Bangkok last summer.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 12, 2019 02:20 PM (sGotD)

193 Wow, degradation and idiocy of pro sports is picking up speed, it seems.

Idiot NBA coach Kerr mouths lame 196Os vintage non sequitir Soviet response to American criticism of their odious, bloody tyranny - when asked about Chinese human rights violations, says he's never been asked about America' "human rights" record, and refers to ..... wait for it ..... "mass shootings".

Just redundant confirmation that America is lost, having an unfixable shortage of Americans [in any meaningful sense].

Oh, and Portland NBA garbage showboating about cutting ties with a company that does business with Israel.

I know, but "muh team!". Even for the boring dreck that is pro basketball.

Posted by: rhomboid at October 12, 2019 02:21 PM (QDnY+)

194 Any moron ever been to Thailand? Looking at some resorts etc. it looks beautiful! Wife doesn't seem as excited. Trying to help sell her on the trip.
Posted by: Minnfidel
-------

The Bangkok night is life changing, I hear.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 02:23 PM (LxqES)

195 I hate snow, have no use for it so glad shouldn't see hardly any until Christmas. But sooner or later, maybe in 1000 years it will be snowing by Labor day and again after Memorial Day.

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 02:24 PM (ZCEU2)

196 Well, the tie was nice while it lasted.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at October 12, 2019 02:24 PM (S+f+m)

197 It does bear a striking resemblance to her, but not sure it is her.
Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:16 PM (xUvz+)
~~~~~

I was unsure too, until I saw this tweet of hers:

@IlhanMN
Wish I was there last night to stand with you sis
@RepAishaGomez, thank you for holding it down for all of us last night. We love you and remember, love trumps hate!

She is just too cute by half.

Posted by: IrishEi at October 12, 2019 02:25 PM (sGotD)

198 The Bangkok night is life changing, I hear.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at October 12, 2019 02:23 PM

Makes a hard man humble. Thanks for the advice Horde, yea the muslim problems they are having are concerning. Think I am going to look elsewhere.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:25 PM (xUvz+)

199 She is just too cute by half.
Posted by: IrishEi at October 12, 2019 02:25 PM

There was another vid of what looked like her lover Mynett near her. Think the press will ask her? LOL.

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:27 PM (xUvz+)

200 I was in Shanghai last year. City of 20 million people. Stayed at the nice Marriott in Tomorrow Square. There for a week and saw one, ONE beggar. Asked someone why that was and their answer was, "Oh, they just go away". Nice place.
Posted by: JC. Just JC. at October 12, 2019 01:55 PM (377Zs)

I suspect some of them ended up in the "human body" exhibit in Las Vegas.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 02:37 PM (GRbI+)

201 San Francisco getting ready to control tech startups it doesn't agree with...
https://twitter.com/balajis/status/
1182926432260853761

Posted by: andycanuck at October 12, 2019 02:39 PM (Dh1wo)

202 Watched who youtube of the PDT rally in Lousiana Friday.
Some one was either popping balloons or paper bags during almost the entire thing.
Nervy.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 12, 2019 02:42 PM (w7KSn)

203 China doesn't have homeless people.
They get disappeared.

Posted by: navybrat, at large at October 12, 2019 02:43 PM (w7KSn)

204 "China doesn't have homeless people.
They get disappeared."

Free range replacement organs

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at October 12, 2019 02:52 PM (cqNba)

205 Apparently Bromar was in Morocco (on our dime naturally)

Posted by: Minnfidel at October 12, 2019 02:54 PM (xUvz+)

206 Fortunately the Magic Negro is too lazy to do that. His record as a disaster will have to rely solely on his time in office.

Depends which way the wind blows.

Posted by: TheMullahsFirstBomb at October 12, 2019 02:55 PM (FhXTo)

207 Pet thread is nood over the gardening thread.

Posted by: Aetius451AD at October 12, 2019 03:07 PM (ycWCI)

208 201 San Francisco getting ready to control tech startups it doesn't agree with...
https://twitter.com/balajis/status/
1182926432260853761

Appears to have been disappeared already

Posted by: Fox2! at October 12, 2019 03:16 PM (MwFQu)

209 >>Yep, taking part in politically-driven violence...isn't that usually called.....TERRORISM?

We like to call them Cultural Change Advocates at the Bureau. What is your name again?

Posted by: Bagpipe Bill at October 12, 2019 03:19 PM (Pzzpr)

210 amgreatness.com/crazy and woke on the western front of progressive insanity

Funniest thing is in 1 year or 4 years Democrats will still run Venice beach

Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 03:21 PM (ZCEU2)

211 Posted by: Skip at October 12, 2019 03:21 PM (ZCEU2)

Linky no worky

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at October 12, 2019 03:53 PM (YqDXo)

212 Hard Rock Hotel under construction in NOLA collapses. One confirmed dead, three missing 18 transported.

Video:

https://twitter.com/Cordicon/status/1183080530566402051

Posted by: IrishEi at October 12, 2019 04:12 PM (sGotD)

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