The Morning Rant: Minimalist Edition

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There is a very big difference between the idiotic Luddite anti-vaxxers and people who just want to care for their children as they see fit. The anti-vaxxers risk the health and lives of others when they refuse vaccinations. Refusing a vitamin K injection is completely different. Choosing not to accept the recommendations of the elites when it comes to other health issues may be unwise, but absent clear evidence of neglect or abuse or injury to others, it is their prerogative.


In the moments after Angela Bougher gave birth last winter, she and her husband, a suburban Chicago pastor, were eager to hold their new baby girl.

But as Bougher was being treated in the delivery room, the couple contends, a nurse picked up the infant to administer a vitamin K shot, a common practice in maternity wards across the country to help a baby’s blood-clotting ability in case of emergency.

The Boughers said they are not “anti-vaxxers” or against any procedure they believe to be medically necessary, but they didn’t think the shot was in that category. They had agreed to sign a waiver confirming their wishes that the new baby — their fifth child — not receive vitamin K, based on their beliefs that God’s creation isn’t automatically deficient or flawed at birth.

But instead of offering them a form, the Boughers allege, the nurse announced she was reporting the couple to the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services and left the room with the newborn. It would be about 12 hours before they got the child back, the couple said.

This is government overreach on a grand scale. How dare they act absent any evidence (much less compelling or obvious) of neglect or malfeasance. Notice that the data are missing from the discussion, because there is no crisis, there is no epidemic, there is no compelling need for government interference in a private and personal decision.

And it gets worse:

By May 2017, a doctor who chaired a perinatal committee for the Illinois Department of Public Health was expressing concerns, the lawsuit states. At a meeting the following month, DCFS officials said they didn’t think investigating parents was “the appropriate way to solve the issue,” and they were in the process of amending it, according to minutes from the meeting.

But after the meeting, Dr. Jill Glick, a renowned child abuse pediatrician at the University of Chicago Medical Center, wrote letters expressing strong opposition to any policy change. Glick sits on several state committees that work closely with DCFS and is named as a defendant in the lawsuit.

“Preventing detrimental outcomes and protecting babies from a poor choice is achieved through education but also through the impact of child welfare interventions,” Glick wrote in a September 2017 letter to fellow pediatricians as DCFS was considering changes. “This can be a very powerful incentive for parents to not put their child a risk.”

Oh...a "powerful incentive?" Other people (including I) would call it the jack-booted thugs of government. How elitist and arrogant and dismissive of parental rights! This woman is perfect example of the dangers of large government, and her pomposity and grandiosity is dangerous. She believes...KNOWs...that she is smarter and better and more capable than the serfs for whom she has responsibility. And how dare you question her!

Show me the clear and unambiguous data that prove a public health issue, and I will consider supporting a more aggressive approach to vitamin K deficiency in newborns. But that is a high bar, especially since the deficiency seems to be manageable by other means.

Posted by: CBD at 11:00 AM




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1 Punk monkey!

Posted by: PAgirlinNC at September 26, 2019 11:01 AM (/5WQL)

2 Am I too early??

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:03 AM (bCLt0)

3 Hi again CBD!

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

4 top 5

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 26, 2019 11:03 AM (pw+jk)

5 Lonely, lonely, tin can at my feet, think I'll kick it down the street....

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:04 AM (bCLt0)

6 Somewhere in top ten.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 26, 2019 11:04 AM (E+OcO)

7 Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

I'm NOT high!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:05 AM (wYseH)

8 I think "Dr. Jill Glick" needs a powerful incentive not to harass the parents of new born children.

Like a punch in the mouth.

Posted by: Bozo Conservative....menace to society at September 26, 2019 11:06 AM (vcOmj)

9 I'm NOT high!


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:05 AM (wYseH)

But maintaining the media buzz

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 26, 2019 11:06 AM (5l6gb)

10 All I hear is "whistleblower...whistleblower....whistleblower"

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (ufFY8)

11 Time for a National Divorce.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (k76MH)

12 All your children are belong to us---- The State....

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (bCLt0)

13 We are long past the stage of stupidity where we have busy bodies that should be on an HOA in the government.


The tree of liberty is mighty thirsty. Just sayin.

Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (pw+jk)

14 >>based on their belief that God's creation is automatically deficient or flawed at birth.

Tell them to read Genesis and then ask them about original sin.

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (Ciifn)

15 13

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (G546f)

16 I'm NOT high!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:05 AM (wYseH)
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Sure. Suuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrre, CBD. We know what those initials stand for, and making up some silly thing involving poor picked-on Charlie Brown isn't going to fool anyone.

Posted by: bluebell at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (aXucN)

17 dammit

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (G546f)

18
I
don't see how these people are getting away with refusal to get their
children vaccinated. Way back in the 50s I had to show proof of
vaccination before I was allowed to enroll in the first grade.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (mpXpK)

19 Sup?

Posted by: FrodoB, learning to reload at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (wpA/B)

20 I'm curious -- what about home births? Do the parents have to bring the baby in for shots by a certain time?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (kQs4Y)

21 But... Illinois...

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (bCLt0)

22 12
All your children are belong to us---- The State....

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (bCLt0)

someone set us up the population bomb.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (5l6gb)

23 Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (G546f)

24 SCREAM AND LEAP!

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (ClOmq)

25 Automatic vitamins injections since when?

Posted by: Martha my dear at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (qtxsN)

26 I would not have a problem with the hospital saying they would not provide delivery services and aftercare unless their was an agreement that they would be able to administer the shots they felt were medically necessary. But that's a private business looking out for its interests. Any mandatory government edict on services not established as necessary for the protection of the public welfare / health is out of bounds.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (Srnuc)

27 Really want to fight this? The parents should fight back saying "vitamin K shots cause climate change" or "vitamin K shots determine gender and are part of the gender assignment at birth conspiracy". The state will leave them alone, the parents will get a huge cash settlement, everyone will be forced to bake them a cake, and we will all forever have to wax their balls.

Posted by: Lickmuffin at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (m/owh)

28 >>But instead of offering them a form, the Boughers allege, the nurse announced she was reporting the couple to the Illinois Department of Children and Family Services


This reminds me of the op-ed by a nurse JJ linked to a few weeks ago who lectured that nurses who don't want to be forced to assist in abortions should find a new profession.

The Left is at war with religious hospitals and religious medical professionals just as much as they are at war with parents. This will only get worse as the State takes over medical care. Refusing an medical procedure/advice will = resisting the State. This is why we must resist any Medicare for All/Some encroachments on private care/the relationship between you and your doctors.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (bDqIh)

29 So...how much does the hospital take in for each vitamin K shot? And who pays for it?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (XuBZu)

30 I'm NOT high!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:05 AM (wYseH)

You sure are popular. Seems every place I look has a sign that say "We have CBD!"

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (Ciifn)

31 11 Time for a National Divorce.

..


Yep.

We no longer have a functioning republic.

End this farce.

Posted by: Ha at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (B/g/o)

32 Powerful incentive?
Yeah...right. When a stack of five heavily armed officers come crashing through the front door.
There's incentive for ya.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (axyOa)

33 Congratulations. You are required to fully support this child over the next 18 years for the child's true parents, the state - who can take him from you any time they wish.

Posted by: It's the seriousness of the charge at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (Hc5T8)

34 Willard:

I think if Nancy wants impeachment, they got the votes.

That's a big "IF" and we've been told she really doesn't want impeachment. But maybe she's coming around.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2019 11:06 AM (NFEMn)


I think that Rush is right about the Dems being the political arm of the media.

The media is pushing impeachment. There it is on Drudge that there are 218 votes for impeachment.

Like I said, Pelosi is a better vote counter. She knows they aren't there or she would have already held the vote.

If she doesn't want impeachment, her only way out is to call the vote and lose.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:09 AM (9VeU0)

35 Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (mpXpK)

It's not vaccination. Read the post.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (wYseH)

36 We're smart! We know stuff!

Posted by: BignJames at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (X/Pw5)

37 Wait here while we do a routine media background check on you, monkey.

- Your Media Betters

Posted by: Moron Robbie Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (Htny7)

38 >>Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day


Kidding, right?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (bDqIh)

39 I am by no means an anti-vaxer, but it does seem from my cursory readings that the mandatory infant and early childhood vaccine schedules have gone rogue. It would appear to me that there are some vaccines that are either inappropriate or unnecessary. I also question some of the chemical compositions inherent in some of these inoculations. Please don't ask me for supporting scientific evidence, as that would be well above my pay grade. Consider this a semi-educated musing, if nothing else.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (EgshT)

40 humans have always had the elite and the serfs. this great country's founding moved it far away from that dualism of humanity. the new elites are getting violent in their desire to return to what they see as status quo. (side: most of the ANTIFA most violent are kids of the rich elite.)

Posted by: just do something at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (0hOKG)

41
I'm NOT high!

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:05 AM (wYseH)

Right now or typically?

Posted by: Someguy at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (Wj9tV)

42 Melissa Click, Jill Glick...I'm sensing a pattern.

Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (tOP4K)

43 So bizarre.
The party of Abortion.
You can't make this stuff up.

Do they call social services on women considering abortion?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (vEIlU)

44 38 >>Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day


Kidding, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (bDqIh)


And you Must Waltz Matilda, down at pub...

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (bCLt0)

45 >>I'm NOT high!


How close you been standing to JackStraw?

Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (4xIsO)

46 But instead of offering them a form, the Boughers allege, the nurse
announced she was reporting the couple to the Illinois Department of
Children and Family Services and left the room with the newborn. It
would be about 12 hours before they got the child back, the couple said.


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If that's the sequence of events, no way she would have left with my child -- and they would have only been able to take the baby from my cold, dead, fingers.

Posted by: ShainS -- Stop Dementia-Shaming Biden! at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (WqPYg)

47 Hooray, Punk Monk!

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (Ki5SV)

48 Anti-vaccination types are like the KKK taking over the US.

There's what, 3000 of them compared to 30M unvaccinated ex-sh*thole dwellers living here illegally?

Posted by: Moron Robbie Majeed Marouf Ahmed Alani at September 26, 2019 11:12 AM (Htny7)

49 But after the meeting, Dr. Jill Glick, a renowned child abuse pediatrician at the University of Chicago Medical Center, wrote letters expressing strong opposition to any policy change.


*********

We have a saying in medicine:

"If you ask a barber, he will tell you that you need a haircut."


With the hyperspecialization of medicine there are more and more "experts"with very narrow areas of expertise. And they tend to "see" the thing that they are expert in behind every bush and tree.

It becomes a sort of self-fulfilling prophecy.

And the average community-based pediatrician will defer to that expert virtually every single time.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:12 AM (m45I2)

50 It's not vaccination. Read the post.


Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (wYseH)

I was commenting on the first sentence in the post.


There is a very big difference between the idiotic Luddite anti-vaxxers
and people who just want to care for their children as they see fit.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:12 AM (mpXpK)

51 Most Anti-Vaxxers would shit a brick if you showed up at their local Dog park with a dog who has not been given its shots.

Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (4xIsO)

52 The nurse should have been fired on the spot. The dad should have gone after her and called the cops for child abuse and kidnapping.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (vEIlU)

53 Vitamin K has electrolytes.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (9VeU0)

54 Its about authority.

They want the only source of authority to be government.

Not parents, and certainly not God.

Note, certain types of humans are drawn to occupations that grant them authority over other humans. Refer you back to 1940 article on spotting wanna be Nazi's at a cocktail party.

Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (2+iNG)

55 Please don't ask me for supporting scientific
evidence, as that would be well above my pay grade. Consider this a
semi-educated musing, if nothing else.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (EgshT)

I would suggest reading about the issue, including the concept of "Herd Immunity." In addition, there are tons of data that show that vaccinations are amazingly safe.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (wYseH)

56 Think about it.... some random nurse has that kind of power over you and your family.... free society, sure.

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (bCLt0)

57 I would be against the vitamin too. wth?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:14 AM (vEIlU)

58 44 38 >>Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day


Kidding, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (bDqIh)


And you Must Waltz Matilda, down at pub...
Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:11 AM (bCLt0)


walking the dog.
waltzing Matilda.

Those new fapping euphemisms are getting quite clever.

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:14 AM (Ciifn)

59 Most Anti-Vaxxers would shit a brick if you showed up at their local Dog park with a dog who has not been given its shots.

Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (4xIsO)

yep

Posted by: BignJames at September 26, 2019 11:14 AM (X/Pw5)

60 So that's how it works

Gossipmonger is butthurt that she wasn't named DNI

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:14 AM (AQBtr)

61 If this were a woman democrat celebrity (think gwenn or whatever her name is), this would NOT have happened.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:14 AM (vEIlU)

62 Bleeding from vit K deficiency in newborns is rare but deadly, can happen within 24 hours, which is why the medical ppl freak out if you don't let them inject the baby

midwives at home births give the shot I think

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:14 AM (G546f)

63 Bleeding from vit K deficiency in newborns is rare but deadly, can happen within 24 hours, which is why the medical ppl freak out if you don't let them inject the baby
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How long has this been a practice?

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (vg8iE)

64 I
don't see how these people are getting away with refusal to get their
children vaccinated. Way back in the 50s I had to show proof of
vaccination before I was allowed to enroll in the first grade.
Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (mpXpK)


Because you were required to get, at the most, 5 maybe 10 shots over the course of your childhood.

Now it's up to 72 by age 6.

Nobody should be for forced medical procedures.

Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne lurking since 2007 at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (xU7mE)

65 10
All I hear is "whistleblower...whistleblower....whistleblower"



Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt at September 26, 2019 11:07 AM (ufFY


=========


Heh. I noticed that too. It's even spilling over into other news stories -- there was just a Yahoo News headline "HIV Whistleblower" which links to the Amazon Washington Compost National Laughingstock headline "Shuping Wang, whistleblower who exposed China's HIV/AIDS crisis, dies at 59."
We are all whistleblowers now ...

Posted by: ShainS -- Stop Dementia-Shaming Biden! at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (WqPYg)

66 I am a pro- vaccer.... I am anti- Statism.

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (bCLt0)

67 The American Academy of Pediatrics is as uunanimous a group of lemmings as has ever been assembled. And highly influential in public policy.


(The AAP is not a government agency, rather a medical specialty guild if you will)

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (m45I2)

68 7 Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:03 AM (RD7QR)

I'm NOT high!
Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:05 AM (wYseH)

Suuuuurrrrrre dude. [passes spliff]

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (RD7QR)

69 If you don't let us give junior that shot, you don't get to eat the placenta!

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:16 AM (Ciifn)

70 Large doses of Vitamin K are a good antidote for dogs who've ingested rat poison. Is rat poison consumption a big thing with babies?

Posted by: Martha my dear at September 26, 2019 11:16 AM (qtxsN)

71 Hiya JT! It's me Grammie. I'm incognito.
Posted by: Martha my dear

Hiya Grammie !

How's the weather in Cognito ?

Posted by: JT at September 26, 2019 11:16 AM (arJlL)

72 And the average community-based pediatrician will defer to that expert virtually every single time.
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No offense to any pediatricians but the average pediatrician in my area works for a giant hospital system that basically forces them to follow checklists and protocols on all of these things.

They are pushing this so that in the end, they can have everyone seen by a nurse who just runs a checklist program. If you have something more serious or acute, then you get a doctor, or a bot. Doctor bots are coming.

Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (OFCoB)

73 We are all whistleblowers now ...
Posted by: ShainS -- Stop Dementia-Shaming Biden! at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (WqPYg)

Fact: White people blow racist dogwhistles all the livelong day.

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (Ciifn)

74 All I hear is "whistleblower...whistleblower....whistleblower"

Posted by: Deplorable Ian Galt


We are all Stasi now.

Posted by: Brother Cavil is bored, why do you ask? at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (AM1GF)

75 So, if the parents 48 hours or so previous had asked doctors to crush the baby's head with a pair of forceps, we'd be good, right?

Posted by: clutch cargo at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (Z1ykJ)

76 But on the other hand, I would be against the State ordering mandatory Vitamin K shots.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (mpXpK)

77 Large doses of Vitamin K are a good antidote for dogs who've ingested rat poison. Is rat poison consumption a big thing with babies?
Posted by: Martha my dear at September 26, 2019 11:16 AM (qtxsN)

Not with Newborns.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (tVQUs)

78 Note, certain types of humans are drawn to occupations that grant them authority over other humans. Refer you back to 1940 article on spotting wanna be Nazi's at a cocktail party.
Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (2+iNG)

Politics has always drawn the worst, from medieval courtiers all the way up to the present.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (J+mig)

79 ok.the Australian law is just in Canberra

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4nwamax

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (G546f)

80 I come from Ukraine you not say Ukraine weak!

Posted by: Random Ukranian man on NY Subway at September 26, 2019 11:18 AM (BDZWU)

81 Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM (EgshT)

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at September 26, 2019 11:13 AM (wYseH)

From the admittedly little I know on the anti-vaccine topic, I think the main sticking point for the non-crazy anti-vaxers is that the new 'combo' vaccines are full of dangerous elements. Elements that do not need to be there and in years past were not. (I.e. in the past you got five vaccine shots: a, b, c, d, e. Now you get one shot with all five, but there's a bunch of other crap in there.)

And I think no one makes the five individual vaccines anymore because the big health corporations made a bajillion of the new kind, and they're pushing nothing but the new kind of vaccines because of it.

Again, my knowledge is mostly hearsay from new parents, so take all this with a grain of salt.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 26, 2019 11:18 AM (k76MH)

82 48 Anti-vaccination types are like the KKK taking over the US.

I grew up on a farm in east TX in the 50's and 60's

The people I knew were worried about

keeping their machines running

watering their crops

paying their loans

and on and on

never heard one worry about sheets or black people

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:18 AM (AQBtr)

83 Hiya JT! Beautiful day here on vacation. Going to the art museum soon to get cultarized.

Posted by: Martha my dear at September 26, 2019 11:18 AM (qtxsN)

84 Vitamin k shot is not a vitamin. It actually has a black box warning on it which means risk of death.

Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne lurking since 2007 at September 26, 2019 11:18 AM (xU7mE)

85 I noted a sign at an independent pharmacy advertising hemp gummy bears.

Boy, that sounds tasty!

Posted by: Mike Hammer. etc., etc. at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (xSo9G)

86 79 ok.the Australian law is just in Canberra

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4nwamax
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:17 AM (G546f)


I hear Canberra has a very strong dogwalker's union and pretty much own the politicians down there.

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (Ciifn)

87 How long has this been a practice?
Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (vg8iE)

the 1980s I think?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (G546f)

88 I was going to be first, then my boss wanted me to actually do work.

can you imagine ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (8D42x)

89 64 Now it's up to 72 by age 6.



Nobody should be for forced medical procedures.

Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne lurking since 2007 at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (xU7mE)

64????? Is that just some of the crazy blue States or is that uniform across the nation?

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

90 I was going to be first, then my boss wanted me to actually do work.

can you imagine ...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (8D42x)

Fire the boss.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (k76MH)

91 How long has this been a practice?

******

It was standard practice when I did my pediatric residency during the Millard Fillmore administration. Actually to be truthful it was in the mid-1980s. Same with erythromycin eye ointment as a standard for all newborns.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (m45I2)

92 OK 72?

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (mpXpK)

93 88 I was going to be first, then my boss wanted me to actually do work.

can you imagine ...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (8D42x)


Get to HR.... accuse boss of something, anything....

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:20 AM (bCLt0)

94 Rep. Turner calls out Adam Schiff for making up a fictional conversation that was not found in the transcript of the call between POTUS and the President of Ukraine.

"I actually had someone text me, 'is he just making this up?' And yes, yes he was."

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (BqBId)

95 40 humans have always had the elite and the serfs. this great country's founding moved it far away from that dualism of humanity. the new elites are getting violent in their desire to return to what they see as status quo. (side: most of the ANTIFA most violent are kids of the rich elite.)
Posted by: just do something at September 26, 2019 11:10 AM

And I'm really starting to hate these wannabe aristocrats.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (J+mig)

96 In the 50s even our mandatory vaccinations were not uniform across the State. It differed from county to county.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (mpXpK)

97 Large doses of Vitamin K are a good antidote for dogs who've ingested rat poison. Is rat poison consumption a big thing with babies?
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So they are trying to address the kids who may have a clotting disorder and prevent catastrophic brain bleed after birth - but its probably a very small number of kids very very small. And if you have no family history of clotting disorders even very very smaller. So . . . yeah a mathematical benefit, because no risk really, and you'd catch maybe 5 kids a decade. Logically the system says lets do it. However, patient autonomy is sacrificed. Stated differently, if we outlawed smoking completely banned it, would it prevent 5 deaths a decade - probably - should that be done . . . yah not gonna happen.

If you put neurotics in charge of society you are going to get a lot of "good" decisions that end up in less freedom.

Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (M7Wnl)

98 I can't wait until the govt runs the entire health care sector. What could go wrong?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (FiUMj)

99 I'd like to know that monkey's tailor

Posted by: ALH at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (uLuPn)

100 The two examples you cited, the nurse in the delivery room, and the lady doctor on the boards of all the important boards... neither of them work for the government.

Seems like what you want is the government to step in to prevent these medical staff people from throwing their weight around.

And therein lies the problem. If you want this stuff fixed, there's gonna be a little government involved. Just announcing "the government is evil and must be stopped" isn't going to fix anything.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (hku12)

101 Hiya JT! Beautiful day here on vacation. Going to the art museum soon to get cultarized.
Posted by: Martha my dear

Nice !

Have fun and stay safe, ummmmm.....Martha !

Posted by: JT at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (arJlL)

102 Rep. Turner calls out Adam Schiff for making up a fictional conversation that was not found in the transcript of the call between POTUS and the President of Ukraine.

"I actually had someone text me, 'is he just making this up?' And yes, yes he was."
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (BqBId)


he's a psychopath
I think Schiff has conversations in his head with multiple people and believes them, then talks outloud

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:22 AM (vEIlU)

103 It's amazing how many times these idiots can ask the same question, get the same answer and then ask the same damn question again.

It's like watching a room full of rain men talking about watching Wapner.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:22 AM (ZLI7S)

104 I've noticed that Umbrage has become a popular supplement.

Posted by: Mike Hammer. etc., etc. at September 26, 2019 11:22 AM (CDGwz)

105 104 I've noticed that Umbrage has become a popular supplement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer. etc., etc. at September 26, 2019 11:22 AM (CDGwz)

Bile is available OTC, now, too.

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (bCLt0)

106 I've taken Umbrage before...

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (flINI)

107 It's amazing how many times these idiots can ask the same question, get the same answer and then ask the same damn question again.
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That's because they aren't questions. They are editorializing.

Posted by: Mike Hammer. etc., etc. at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (CDGwz)

108 I fully expect PDT to be impeached. Is the Senate going to remove him from office? I doubt it.

Posted by: JAS at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (0LxiW)

109 http://bit.ly/2mTP3oY
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Pennsylvania's failure to fully fund pensions leads to 'D' grade for state's finances in report | Pennsylvania | thecentersquare.com

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (BqBId)

110 I've noticed that Umbrage has become a popular supplement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer

It can give ya the shits !

Posted by: JT at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (arJlL)

111 Sean Davis has a great article at The Federalist...

Complaint From So-Called 'Whistleblower' Is Riddled With Gossip, Blatant Falsehoods

A snip~

The document itself is riddled not with evidence directly viewed by the complainant, but repeated references to what anonymous officials allegedly told the complainant: “I have received information from multiple U.S. Government officials,” “officials have informed me,” “officials with direct knowledge of the call informed me,” “the White House officials who told me this information,” “I was told by White House officials,” “the officials I spoke with,” “I was told that a State Department official,” “I learned from multiple U.S. officials,” “One White House official described this act,” “Based on multiple readouts of these meetings recounted to me,” “I also learned from multiple U.S. officials,” “The U.S. officials characterized this meeting,” “multiple U.S. officials told me,” “I learned from U.S. officials,” “I also learned from a U.S. official,” “several U.S. officials told me,” “I heard from multiple U.S. officials,” and “multiple U.S. officials told me."

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (cF8AT)

112 104 I've noticed that Umbrage has become a popular supplement.
Posted by: Mike Hammer. etc., etc. at September 26, 2019 11:22 AM (CDGwz)

I loathe Umbrage.

Posted by: Harry Potter at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (k76MH)

113 Forgot the link...

https://tinyurl.com/y6hwrvlv

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (cF8AT)

114 the governmment cant have it both ways they cant say that the mother can kill the baby right after its born but then take the baby away because the mother doesnt want the baby to habe a vitamin k shot

Posted by: sound awake at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (0OxUd)

115 Posted by: JAS at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (0LxiW)
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The Progtard Party hasn't even opened an official inquiry !

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 11:24 AM (BqBId)

116

That spigot of foreign money is the way they have been "fundamentally transforming America" for decades now. This money is everywhere, affecting all of society. Pouring right into media outlets too, I bet.

This is also scary stuff.

People keep asking how congressmen who only make this or that are multi-millionaires.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:24 AM (vEIlU)

117 Remember Schiff got punked Russian DJs

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2019 11:24 AM (nPvAJ)

118
Bile is available OTC, now, too.
Posted by: kraken
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Hmmmm...mmm. Nothing beats a nice dinner of bile and gravel.

Posted by: The Media at September 26, 2019 11:24 AM (CDGwz)

119 114 the governmment cant have it both ways they cant say that the mother can kill the baby right after its born but then take the baby away because the mother doesnt want the baby to habe a vitamin k shot

Posted by: sound awake at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (0OxUd)

Sure it can, it's the government.

Posted by: Someguy at September 26, 2019 11:24 AM (Wj9tV)

120 Traces of cannabis on several 2500 year old wooden braziers discovered in a western Chinese cemetery constitute the oldest scientifically verified evidence of marijuana use.

(In Archaeology mag. Too busy to find a link.)

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (RD7QR)

121 Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (cF8AT)

Until there is any corroborating evidence, this shit should be taken as seriously as the National Enquirer. It's celebrity gossip rag bullshit pretending to be news.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (J+mig)

122 The American Academy of Pediatrics is as uunanimous a group of lemmings as has ever been assembled. And highly influential in public policy.


(The AAP is not a government agency, rather a medical specialty guild if you will)
Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (m45I2)

Hello, you all can blame the lawyers for this. The AAP defines standards of practice and then pediatricians will follow them without exception, less their malpractice insurance drops them during a lawsuit for not following standards of practice. The standards of practice keep evolving into whatever research appears to be generally accepted , and has yet to have a successful lawsuit against it.

You all realize that the lawsuits levied against Roundup are being decided by juries who have zero expertise in not only herbicides, medicine, cancer but none in statistics, study designs, research etc.
Same with lawsuits in medicine. Typically decided by jury with little background , who have to decide between two expert testimony which one is lying and which one isn't.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (Aaous)

123 You are state property.
Your children are state property.
Your house and land are state property.
Your money is state property.

We are all slaves.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

124 Part of what makes the liberty vs security debate so frustrating is that it's difficult to clearly state what your principles are for where the line should be drawn. In principle, how much liberty would you give up for how much security? Is such a statement even possible for any position between "all of it" or "none of it"?

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (KUaJL)

125 Where did the rumors of the whistleblower being Susan M. Gordon come from?

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (vEIlU)

126 Traces of cannabis on several 2500 year old wooden braziers discovered in a western Chinese cemetery constitute the oldest scientifically verified evidence of marijuana use.

(In Archaeology mag. Too busy to find a link.)
Posted by: joncelli,

"Oh wow, man; so many pages !"

Posted by: JT at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (arJlL)

127 Same with lawsuits in medicine. Typically decided by jury with little background , who have to decide between two expert testimony which one is lying and which one isn't.
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Oh the stories I could tell . . .

Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (aVtVF)

128 I see the vitamin K shots vary from State to State. Right now there are about 7 blue States who make them mandatory and not just some requirement of a private organization.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (mpXpK)

129 Ratcliff hammering the 'hearsay evidence' right now in the hearing.

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (cF8AT)

130 120 Traces of cannabis on several 2500 year old wooden braziers discovered in a western Chinese cemetery constitute the oldest scientifically verified evidence of marijuana use.

(In Archaeology mag. Too busy to find a link.)
Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (RD7QR)


So "Chinese Eyes" is actually a thing then?

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (9VeU0)

131 123 You are state property.
Your children are state property.
Your house and land are state property.
Your money is state property.

We are all slaves.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

It's like we're all on Maggie's Farm....

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (bCLt0)

132 Some of the childhood vaccines we got a while ago seem either to not be effective or lose their effectiveness over time. My daughter just got over the mumps.

Posted by: Martha my dear at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (qtxsN)

133 You are state property.

Your children are state property.

Your house and land are state property.

Your money is state property.


No argument from me on those points.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (EgshT)

134 Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (M7Wnl)

Again I have no problem with the hospital mandating it as a condition of rendering their services but not government mandated. But then again, a waiver by the parents beforehand that relieved the hospital of liability in the event of a bleeding episode should be sufficient. Unfortunately though waivers don't prevent people from suing.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (Srnuc)

135

Former French President Jacques Chirac, a major force in French politics who opposed the 2003 US-led invasion of Iraq, died in Paris on Thursday at the age of 86.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (aKsyK)

136 Ratcliffe is a very good prosecutor.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (ZLI7S)

137 The Republicans should have Borat testify just to prove how farcical this all is.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (nPvAJ)

138 A snip~



Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM



Every bit of that phrasing sounds like it came directly from a NYT hit piece. It reads like it was written by a so-called "journalist".

Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (tOP4K)

139 Govt: Your kid must have these vitamins shots

Also govt: Your 3 year old decided he's a she now? We're cool.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (FiUMj)

140 123 You are state property.
Your children are state property.
Your house and land are state property.
Your money is state property.

We are all slaves.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

As much as I think Anarchism is a path to failure and cannot endure, I'm starting to sympathize with the anarcho-capitalists.

All of this rampant abuse of power has made me hate all government as a rule.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (J+mig)

141 Hello, you all can blame the lawyers for this. The AAP defines standards of practice and then pediatricians will follow them without exception, less their malpractice insurance drops them during a lawsuit for not following standards of practice.
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You don't say.

Posted by: American Bar Association at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (xSo9G)

142 Our betters used to understand the 'powerful incentive' of tar and feathers

Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (B7KlG)

143 Is Sue Gordon really Gary Busey in drag ???

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (AQBtr)

144 5% of Americans with northern European ancestry have a genetic mutation called "Factor V Leiden." An injection of Vitamin K for a child with this mutation would likely cause immediate thrombosis / blood clotting / stroke.

https://tinyurl.com/lk8zode

It's unbelievable this would be an automatic procedure anywhere that this mutation is present in the population.

Posted by: Scientist Captain at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (dJs6r)

145 What happens if the House impeaches the president?

I think the chances are slim, but every media outlet is absolutely certain it's happening.

Posted by: Cocaine Fueled War Turtle at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (gAMkn)

146 A snip~



Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM


Every bit of that phrasing sounds like it came directly from a NYT hit piece. It reads like it was written by a so-called "journalist".
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ex-journalist

Posted by: Fusion GPS we're available for your needs at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (aVtVF)

147 My father wanted to be cremated after death.

At the funeral home, we had to sign that we knew that cremation meant that there wouldn't be a body afterward.

Cause someone didn't get that. An sued. And won.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (9VeU0)

148 Off to see Art! Pretend I wasn't here.....

Posted by: Martha my dear at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (qtxsN)

149
I fully expect PDT to be impeached. Is the Senate going to remove him from office? I doubt it.
Posted by: JAS at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (0LxiW

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Well, conviction will come down to Mitch.

The Dems likely have most of the R votes they need, save for a handful. They'd require a lot of bribing, threatening and cajoling to come along. If Mitch wants to pull the trigger and kill the King it'll happen, but I doubt he does. Not at this moment, in any case.

As for whether the House impeaches - I think that's a near certainty. Yesterday I wasn't quite sure, but I heard the Vremya broadcasts this morning. They'll go for it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (AzW6q)

150 137 The Republicans should have Borat testify just to prove how farcical this all is.
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (nPvAJ)

Kazakhstan conspiracy theory is best conspiracy theory.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (RD7QR)

151 Chirac est mort?

But it is not August

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (nPvAJ)

152 142 Our betters used to understand the 'powerful incentive' of tar and feathers
Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2019 11:27 AM (B7KlG)

A lot of the problems in this country would go away if we could tar and feather anyone in an elected office or any bureaucrat.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (k76MH)

153 vitamin K (found in dark leafy greens) is a blood thickener.

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (5l6gb)

154 >>What happens if the House impeaches the president?


It goes to the Senate for a trial where it will die.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (ZLI7S)

155 145 What happens if the House impeaches the president?

I think the chances are slim, but every media outlet is absolutely certain it's happening.

Posted by: Cocaine Fueled War Turtle at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (gAMkn)

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What happens? Ratings for CNN, Fox and MSNBC quadruple for a few months. That's mainly what happens.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (FiUMj)

156 This is how the propaganda starts.

from the Daily Caller

Rep. Schiff Fabricates What Trump Said In Ukraine Telephone Call Transcript

"This is the essence of what the president communicates. We've been very good to your country, very good, no other country has done as much as we have, but you know what, I don't see much reciprocity here. I hear what you want. I have a favor I want from you, though. And I'm going to say this only seven times, so you better listen good."

...

Schiff continued, making it up as he went along: "I want you to make up dirt on my political opponent, understand, lots of it, on this and on that. I'm going to put you in touch with people, not just any people, I'm going to put you in touch with the attorney general of the United States, my attorney general Bill Barr. He's got the whole weight of the American law enforcement behind him."


People are going to hear this and think this is what is in the transcript. Weasel. His point. Get these out as sound bites. pure evil

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (vEIlU)

157 1.) Vitamin K is an essential component of the blood coagulation cascade (multiple sequential steps that lead to clotting.

2. Deficiency of vitamin K can lead to excess or spontaneous bleeding

3. Warfarin (aka Coumadin) blocks the coagulation cascade.

4. Warfarin in therapeutic doses can prevent unwanted clot formation (e.g. people with mechanical heart valves)

5. Warfarin in overdose can lead to potentially dangerous bleeding (hence its use as a rat poison).

6. Simplistically you can think of vitamin K as "anti"-warfarin. It used to counter the effects of too much warfarin, but also to replace a deficiency of vitamin K (thus its use in newborns).

7. Vitamin K deficiency is rare in newborns, but it is easier to administer a shot universally than to test all newborns or wait for serious symptoms to develop. At least that is the "public health" rationale.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:29 AM (m45I2)

158 I have no problem with the hospital mandating it as a condition of rendering their services but not government mandated

To me, the distinction there is not very discernible. But then again, what do I know.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at September 26, 2019 11:30 AM (EgshT)

159
Off-Topic (but important):

Video of cat snow-sledding...

https://youtu.be/7z9KPTI5ixI

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 26, 2019 11:30 AM (Xqo6t)

160 67 votes for removal from office. After trial. Not ever gonna happen.

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:30 AM (bCLt0)

161 If Donny 2 Scoops is impeached the base will be inspired to crush the dems in '20. If he is impeached and removed it would be war.

Posted by: Truck Monkey at September 26, 2019 11:30 AM (flINI)

162 147 Cause someone didn't get that. An sued. And won.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (9VeU0)

That is because our tort laws and jury system is totally fked.

Posted by: Vic at September 26, 2019 11:31 AM (mpXpK)

163 It goes to the Senate for a trial where it will die.
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Agreed. I was thinking more about the election.

This seems like the recipe for a Mondalesque loss.

Posted by: Cocaine Fueled War Turtle at September 26, 2019 11:31 AM (gAMkn)

164 It's unbelievable this would be an automatic procedure anywhere that this mutation is present in the population.
Posted by: Scientist Captain at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (dJs6r)

I can believe it.

I'm also not entirely sure it isn't deliberate.

These people have made it very clear who their "undesirables" are, and that they have no souls. The thought of freely killing 1 in 20 of such a demographic would give them raging murderboners.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:31 AM (J+mig)

165 149 Well, conviction will come down to Mitch.

The Dems likely have most of the R votes they need, save for a handful. They'd require a lot of bribing, threatening and cajoling to come along. If Mitch wants to pull the trigger and kill the King it'll happen, but I doubt he does. Not at this moment, in any case.

As for whether the House impeaches - I think that's a near certainty. Yesterday I wasn't quite sure, but I heard the Vremya broadcasts this morning. They'll go for it.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (AzW6q)

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This won't happen. It's never getting a House vote at all, and if it, by some miracle, did happen, Mitch would kill it.

The antagonism within the upper echelons of the Republican Party against Trump has obviously largely abated. And, killing the Republican Party kills their own livelihoods.

There are policy, party, and personal reasons why Mitch won't let an impeachment result get a conviction.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:31 AM (q80AH)

166 cont

The House Intelligence Committee chairman even suggested that Trump told Zelensky, "'And I'm going to put you in touch with Rudy -- you're going to love him, trust me. You know what I'm asking, and so I'm only going to say this a few more times in a few more ways. And by the way, don't call me again, I'll call you when you've done what you've asked.' This is the sum and character what the president was trying to communicate with the president of Ukraine. It would be funny if it wasn't such a graphic betrayal of the president's Oath of Office."

still taking cues and training from Spielberg and hollywood I see.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:31 AM (vEIlU)

167 It's funny how the anti-vaxxer thing tends to attract the wacky fringes of both sides. If you see somebody posting anti-vaxxer stuff, it's a 50/50 toss if the rest of their page will be have posts like: "Look at this adorable transgender 2 year old!" or "Why Harry Potter and rock n' roll music are the devil!"

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (N4xQB)

168 108
I fully expect PDT to be impeached. Is the Senate going to remove him from office? I doubt it.

Posted by: JAS at September 26, 2019 11:23 AM (0LxiW)


Don't underestimate their desire to get back to business as usual. All of them.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (CQ3Qb)

169 There will be some GOP votes to convict. Romney, Sasse, maybe Gardner? Trump won't be removed, but the spin from the MSM/Dems will be it wasn't political since there was "bipartisan" agreement on Trump's removal.

Dems know there is essentially a 0% chance Trump will be removed. But they will hammer him on these for months leading up to the election.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (FiUMj)

170 A pastor and his wife need to have their fifth newborn taken from them in the first 12 hours of birth to protect the child from its parents.

Hope the baby wasn't mistaken for one of the other Illinois-born babies who was placed in a quiet room to die because it was unwanted -- because we need to respect the needs of the mother.

Posted by: red speck at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (nrC0n)

171 160 67 votes for removal from office. After trial. Not ever gonna happen.
Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:30 AM (bCLt0)

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I know, right?

That's 20 Republican Senators who would have to vote in the affirmative.

Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (q80AH)

172 We are all slaves.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 26, 2019 11:25 AM (NWiLs)

I'm no slave. Currently I have no issue with the 'State' but if I ever do, I'll go down swinging. The one minor issue i had in the past was red light camera tickets. I threw them all in the trash. Admittedly I didn't see how far I would have taken the fight because the law was eventually voted out.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 11:33 AM (Srnuc)

173 154 >>What happens if the House impeaches the president?

Mitt gets to strut around

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:33 AM (AQBtr)

174 If the whistle blower isn't IC and the complaint wasn't an IC matter, rather an Election interference issue, why would s/he go to the ICIG, rather than the DOJ IG? Makes no sense, unless it was part of a planned scenario.

Posted by: Ever at September 26, 2019 11:34 AM (ZZDMQ)

175 I have no problem with the hospital mandating it as a condition of rendering their services but not government mandated
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Well, I think its an informed consent issue. I think they can make their case and explain it to you but you get to decide. The rub here is that its a kid and so the state can decide the best interest of the child- if they think you didn't and if it were something that was critical. This really, in almost every case, is not critical, but they did it anyway.

You will respect MUH AUTHORITAY.

Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2019 11:34 AM (tYZT9)

176 >>Agreed. I was thinking more about the election.

>>This seems like the recipe for a Mondalesque loss.

Nancy and a few of the less crazy Democrats in the Senate seem to agree.

Hopefully, someone reminds them that the US has a mutual legal assistance treaty in place with Ukraine. They can ask Bill Clinton. He signed the treaty in 1998.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:34 AM (ZLI7S)

177 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (q80AH)

Burr, he says he's not running for re election

he is running for a cushy lobbying job in DC

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (AQBtr)

178 Again I have no problem with the hospital mandating it as a condition of rendering their services but not government mandated. But then again, a waiver by the parents beforehand that relieved the hospital of liability in the event of a bleeding episode should be sufficient. Unfortunately though waivers don't prevent people from suing.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 11:26 AM (Srnuc)

Parent's cannot waive their children's rights, which makes these waivers useless.
I had a friend whose lawyer husband handled quite a few child injury cases, including dog bites. Parents can sue someone for injury to their child and collect on it, including having all medical care paid for. Then, once the child turns 18, the child turned adult can sue said defendant again for the same complaint , winning a judgement based on effects of prior injury on current status.

It's crazy. It's why liability releases for kids playing sports, etc. are false security for organizations that run them.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (Aaous)

179
Complaint From So-Called 'Whistleblower' Is Riddled With Gossip, Blatant Falsehoods

A snip~


Heard it from a friend who
Heard it from a friend who
Heard it from another you been messin' around

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (aKsyK)

180 @104 I use Burnt Umbrage a lot when I paint.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (E+OcO)

181 There are policy, party, and personal reasons why Mitch won't let an impeachment result get a conviction.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:31 AM (q80AH)

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Yes, I doubt he will. He'd have to pull along five or ten Rs who aren't inclined to do this, and that would cost, big time. And yes, it would relegate the Republicans to the wilderness for a the foreseeable future.

But I think the Dems in the House are going to push in all of their chips anyway.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (AzW6q)

182 149. I would not be surprised if Mitch's price is the nomination of Amul Thapar to SCOTUS. He loves that guy.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (wGbBR)

183 171 160 67 votes for removal from office. After trial. Not ever gonna happen.
Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:30 AM (bCLt0)

=========

I know, right?

That's 20 Republican Senators who would have to vote in the affirmative.

Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (q80AH)

Plus, it's firing on Fort Sumter. For all their mouthiness.... lifetime Pols Do Not wanna start Civil War 2...

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (bCLt0)

184 President Jacques Chirac, ..., died in Paris

Good riddance.


Posted by: DaveA at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (FhXTo)

185 You sure are popular. Seems every place I look has a sign that say "We have CBD!"

I drove by a place actually called "The CBD Store" on their sign the other day. I was tempted to stop in and ask to talk to GorillaPundit.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (ZGrMX)

186 So the Department of Children and Family Services were the ones saying that they did not need to investigate parents for this?

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (hLRSq)

187 >>What happens if the House impeaches the president?


Nancy gets to call a Gangbang.

Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (4xIsO)

188 knowing nothing about this really, it seems the hospital has a standard procedure, and could be libel if there was a problem that the K shot might have ameliorated. So nurse thinks it is vital, but doesn't recognize it is vital for the hospital to cover itself from potential lawsuits, more than vital for the baby.


again, maybe K is helpful, but the lawsuit prevention thing causes costs to skyrocket due to all the extra testing and preventions. (some study said 15% of hospital costs are unnecessary tests/preventatives done to cover their tracks in case of lawsuit.)

My K2 (MK7) and D3 arrives today, to help with arteries and blood pressure.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Cus5s)

189 I think Pelosi Has Premature Impeachulation

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (JFO2v)

190 Nancy gets to call a Gangbang.
Posted by: garrett at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (4xIsO)


Palomino! Palomino!

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (9VeU0)

191 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Here's ten others that will happily do it:
Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Toomey,
Wicker. Those are the ones that voted for open borders yesterday.

Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)

192 177 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (q80AH)

Burr, he says he's not running for re election

he is running for a cushy lobbying job in DC
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (AQBtr)

==========

Burr is 19 senators?

Who knew?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (q80AH)

193 Would Trump get to call hostile witnesses to the floor of the Senate and compel testimony? If yes, then please impeach him.

Posted by: Jean at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (B7KlG)

194 Point of information:
Vitamin K is given postnatal to prevent blue baby syndrome, a complication that can occur when the mother and baby have incompatible blood types.

At issue, is that most babies do not have a blood type incompatible with their mother, but hospitals want to administer them Vitamin K both as a liability shield, and as a relatively expensive medicine allowing a high markup.
Also, Obamacare prioritizes "preventive care" through a number of mechanisms, and this qualifies. Opting out has the potential to directly affect the hospital's reimbursements from any and all governmental subsidized programs going forward.

Posted by: Luke at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (LcCGY)

195 Plus, it's firing on Fort Sumter. For all their mouthiness.... lifetime Pols Do Not wanna start Civil War 2...
Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (bCLt0)

The Pols don't, but the media and the lunatic fringe (but I repeat myself) do.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (J+mig)

196 Hiya JT! It's me Grammie. I'm incognito.
Posted by: Martha my dear


I should start posting as "Here Comes the Sun."

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (Ki5SV)

197 None of the facts matter to Nancy and Co. They've made the calculation that impeaching helps them. Right or wrong that's what they're doing. All the facts, the law, treaties, whatever is irrelevant. This is a PR/Election campaign for the Dems and nothing more.

Look at how govt shutdowns run their course. All the facts are on the GOP's side. All the supposed support to cut spending is on the GOP's side. Doesn't matter. The Dems/MSM trot out some sob story fo a govt worker who couldn't make the rent and the GOP caves and gives the Dems what they want. Impeachment will be a version of this where it will be all about emotion aimed at LIVs.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:38 AM (FiUMj)

198 191 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Here's ten others that will happily do it:
Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Toomey,
Wicker. Those are the ones that voted for open borders yesterday.
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)

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Paul has already laughed off the idea of impeachment, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:38 AM (q80AH)

199 Nancy and a few of the less crazy Democrats in the Senate seem to agree.
------------------------------
The most logical explanation is that she's still trying to thread the needle on this.

Pet the squad a bit, give the media a narrative, but nothing really happens.

The downside is that Trump's base will be out for revenge...but that's later.

Posted by: Cocaine Fueled War Turtle at September 26, 2019 11:38 AM (gAMkn)

200 Vitamin K deficiency is rare in newborns,

Why not give the mother a Flintstones chewable for the drive in?

Posted by: DaveA at September 26, 2019 11:38 AM (FhXTo)

201 I drove by a place actually called "The CBD Store" on their sign the other day. I was tempted to stop in and ask to talk to GorillaPundit.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (ZGrMX)


No one asks to talk to Gorilla Pundit.

Gorilla Pundit talks to you.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2019 11:39 AM (Ki5SV)

202 Funny how you can kill your baby as its being born and walk out of the hospital free as a bird but if you decline a Vitamin K shot now you're a criminal.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 26, 2019 11:39 AM (ZYB2s)

203 I think Pelosi will try and split the baby

Have hearings but not impeach.

she wants to maintain her power and impeachment would severely diminish that.

she would prolly lose her gavel

but even if she didn't. Trump, after his re election, wouldn't have anything to do with her

Trump would go merrily along with Mitch remaking the judiciary.

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:39 AM (AQBtr)

204 199 Nancy and a few of the less crazy Democrats in the Senate seem to agree.
------------------------------
The most logical explanation is that she's still trying to thread the needle on this.

Pet the squad a bit, give the media a narrative, but nothing really happens.

The downside is that Trump's base will be out for revenge...but that's later.
Posted by: Cocaine Fueled War Turtle at September 26, 2019 11:38 AM (gAMkn)

==========

"See! We're doing something!"
-Nancy to the activist and monied left

"Go! Tell your constituents that you're against impeachment. It won't matter. It's never coming up for a vote."
-Nancy to red/purple district Democrats

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:39 AM (q80AH)

205 I think Mitch needs PT. I just contributed to PT on donaldjtrump.com. Immediately after contributing, I was directed to a site to contribute to Mitch. Not sure if it was the Senate campaign fund or just his. Although, they are probably one and the same.

Posted by: Ever at September 26, 2019 11:39 AM (ZZDMQ)

206 Cannot ever see Susan Collins voting for removal... way too sharp a Pol. Roy Blunt?? He would have to flee Missouri.

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (bCLt0)

207 You will take your vitamjn K shot, and when you're old enough to drive thou shalt take thy seatbelt across thy body and click it where we can observe it...having made a K pattern on your person.

Posted by: The State at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (LphqV)

208
Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:32 AM (q80AH)

--------

Republicans who'd vote to convict, right off the bat?

Murkowski
Romney
Collins
Wicker
Moran
Portney
Alexander
Blunt

There are probably some others, too, but I'd have to think on it.

And of course, there are always deals to be made. Republicans are nothing if not for sale.

Luckily, as I said above, I don't think Mitch is inclined to whip those votes at this juncture.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (AzW6q)

209 174 If the whistle blower isn't IC and the complaint wasn't an IC matter, rather an Election interference issue, why would s/he go to the ICIG, rather than the DOJ IG? Makes no sense, unless it was part of a planned scenario.
Posted by: Ever at September 26, 2019 11:34 AM (ZZDMQ)

I believe the complaint was written the people on the House UnIntelligence committee. So they knew what was in the whistleblower but had not seen the transcript.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (JFO2v)

210 I drove by a place actually called "The CBD Store" on their sign the other day. I was tempted to stop in and ask to talk to GorillaPundit.
Posted by: Ian S. at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (ZGrMX)

I see signs for CBD everywhere and have no idea what the hell it is.

So naturally I think of the real CBD.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (k76MH)

211 Would the GOPe be willing to sacrifice an election cycle or two in order to ensure Trump is destroyed? I wouldn't put it past them.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (FiUMj)

212

The tree of liberty is mighty thirsty. Just sayin.

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I remember a couple of years ago when bringing that up around here risked a Banhammering.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (ySnWN)

213 I have the TV on here in my office watching this BS hearing. I feel I had better turn it off cuz these ratfuckinbastards are making me mad enough to shoot the TV.

We have all seen this shit play out before in other hearings, but as I get older I have no patience for these grandstanding cocksuckers and their asinine questions. And then they will not let the witness answer. THIS SHIT is abuse of power - I know it's all theatre but we spend too much money for so little entertainment.

Sorry to rant at y'all but the dog got tired of my bitching and left the room so I have no one left to listen to me.
Screw 'Em!!

Thank you for your time.

Posted by: Screw 'Em at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (9moRy)

214 Would Trump get to call hostile witnesses to the floor of the Senate and compel testimony? If yes, then please impeach him.

Posted by: Jean
=========
Its not really a trial like that per se, but he will be given representation and will have a chance to make his case. So the impeachment thing is a giant landmine. Trump is probably hoping they do impeach and he gets the chance to lay it all out. He'd probably declass a lot of stuff and say that the dem's left him no choice.

Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (OFCoB)

215 208. But they would rather have Pence? I am not sure Collins and Murkowski would want a Pres. Pence even for 15 minutes.

Posted by: Nick in Tallahassee at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (wGbBR)

216 Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.
WTF is wrong with these people???



https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/

1177028390815092736

Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (bDqIh)

217
Burr is 19 senators?

Who knew?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (q80AH)

don't tell him that

Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (AQBtr)

218 211 Would the GOPe be willing to sacrifice an election cycle or two in order to ensure Trump is destroyed? I wouldn't put it past them.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (FiUMj)

=========

GOP 2016? Sure.

GOP 2020? Nope. Leadership is pretty fine with Trump now. Trump's obviously developed decent relationships with people like Mitch and Lindsay Graham.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)

219 My local independent pet store sells CBD for dogs. Which I find funny as fuck.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (FiUMj)

220 (some study said 15% of hospital costs are unnecessary tests/preventatives done to cover their tracks in case of lawsuit.)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (Cus5s)

That sounds low.

Posted by: Jordan61 at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (Ez6QX)

221 The impeachment schedule will be dictated by Ruth Bader Ginsburg's oncology reports.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (LGZjw)

222 217
Burr is 19 senators?

Who knew?
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (q80AH)

don't tell him that
Posted by: REDACTED at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (AQBtr)

==========

It'll just reinforce the delusions in his head.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)

223 GOP 2016? Sure.

GOP 2020? Nope. Leadership is pretty fine with Trump now. Trump's obviously developed decent relationships with people like Mitch and Lindsay Graham.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)

___

I'm thinking more the money people than the actual politicans. CoC, Kochs, etc.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:42 AM (FiUMj)

224 Now a vitamin KKK injection I would probably object to.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:42 AM (m45I2)

225 Shouldn't there be an investigation of Cofer Black, a spook who worked as Milt Rombley's "special advisor" on security policy and who presently sits on the fucking board of Burisma?

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 26, 2019 11:43 AM (sWM8x)

226 Point of information:
Vitamin K is given postnatal to prevent blue baby syndrome, a complication that can occur when the mother and baby have incompatible blood types.

At issue, is that most babies do not have a blood type incompatible with their mother, but hospitals want to administer them Vitamin K both as a liability shield, and as a relatively expensive medicine allowing a high markup.
Also, Obamacare prioritizes "preventive care" through a number of mechanisms, and this qualifies. Opting out has the potential to directly affect the hospital's reimbursements from any and all governmental subsidized programs going forward.
====
Always follow the money.

"Nudge"

Posted by: simplemind at September 26, 2019 11:43 AM (aVtVF)

227 So the Department of Children and Family Services were the ones saying that they did not need to investigate parents for this?
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 26, 2019 11:36 AM (hLRSq)


They have enough kids who are born with opiates in their systems, kids who are being violently and/or sexually abused by parents, and others who are living in squalor without food, clothing, or any other daily needs being met.

A stupid vitamin K shot is not high on their priority list.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2019 11:43 AM (hku12)

228 209 I believe the complaint was written the people on the House
UnIntelligence committee. So they knew what was in the whistleblower
but had not seen the transcript.
Agreed!

It appears as though they wrote the script for today at the same time they authored the complaint. This originated inside the DNC

Posted by: Screw 'Em at September 26, 2019 11:43 AM (9moRy)

229 I just had a thought.

Since they have been talking about impeaching Trump since before he was even sworn in and have mentioned the word "impeachment" so many times, isn't it possible that they have almost devalued the word to the point where it won't even register with most people and if he is indeed impeached by the House, it will be met by a collective shrug by the ONLY people who really matter--the voters?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2019 11:43 AM (NFEMn)

230 Guess I just have a difference of opinion with summa youse about Trump's being removed from office. After Trial, and conviction. Maybe it's just wishful thinkin, regarding not wanting the next Civil War to start.

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:44 AM (bCLt0)

231 It is going to be a great read when the results of Durham's probe are released in 2023.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 26, 2019 11:44 AM (dNzKv)

232 I had a cat that died a few years ago. We suspect the vet fucked up the cat when doing some blood tests. He was kinda sick, and then a day after the tests, went from bad to worse to dead. The cat was pretty old and I don't think we could have ever proved it and I'm not even sure how vet malpractice works.

Anyway, I was talking to one of my kids about it recently and mentioned that doctors kill patients all the time. Thousands of people die every year from medical malpractice. And the kid was stunned to hear that. It was almost like saying there's no Santa Claus. Kids, I guess, have this vision of doctors being perfect and always curing you, etc.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:44 AM (FiUMj)

233 mentioned the word "impeachment" so many times, isn't it possible that they have almost devalued the word to the point where it won't even register with most people


That is a racist statement right there.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 26, 2019 11:45 AM (dNzKv)

234 >Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from a friend who

Heard it from another you been messin' around

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:35 AM (aKsyK)


**Guitar Solo**

Posted by: Zombie Gary Richrath at September 26, 2019 11:45 AM (sjdRT)

235 I'm sensing a wave election with thanks given to the new 'Stupid' party, having gone past 'Republican Stupid' at plaid speed with their hash pipe fueled dreams of impeachment, gun control, obstruction and open borders. All third rail issues with conservative voters.

Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at September 26, 2019 11:45 AM (BvY54)

236 Congressional Democrats: (in a strong Jacques Chirac accent) What is this executive privilege of which you speak?

J'accuse!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (LGZjw)

237
I think that Rush is right about the Dems being the political arm of the media

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I vacillate between the media being the agitprop bureau of the Dems or the Dems are the political action arm of the media.

Posted by: Vlad the Impaler, whittling away like mad at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (ySnWN)

238 This is not about impeachment, they know they will never remove Trump from office.

This is about tarnishing his name as much as possible. Its about using the power of subpoena of Congress, for opposition research.

Its about the election.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (NgKpN)

239
Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.

She's homeless?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (aKsyK)

240 Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.

-------

Her people are nomads, traveling the Plains, using all parts of the antelope.

Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (7HtZB)

241 Good news, everyone. Mattel is introducing non-gender Barbies due to "demand from children", by which they mean "rich liberal parents".

https://tinyurl.com/y5q8jv84

Posted by: Ian S. at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (ZGrMX)

242 Kids, I guess, have this vision of doctors being perfect and always curing you, etc.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:44 AM (FiUMj)


I can speak from personal experience - once you've worked in a hospital, you will never look at doctors in the same way again.

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (Ki5SV)

243 238 This is not about impeachment, they know they will never remove Trump from office.

This is about tarnishing his name as much as possible. Its about using the power of subpoena of Congress, for opposition research.

Its about the election.
Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (NgKpN)

==========

And the FISA IG report.

I have a strong feeling that DOJ has already made decisions about pursuing indictments based on the non-redacted report and Democrats know it.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (q80AH)

244 I think there is no threading of the needle.

They have declared the whistleblower complaint an urgent threat to our national security. They can't declare that and then go, oh, well no matter.

They HAVE to vote on impeachment. And the media is egging them on.

Pelosi has to either push it forward or stop it. She cannot stop it. So she will have to bring it to a vote, and their best outcome is to vote and lose.



Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (9VeU0)

245 Nancy's announcement changed nothing. It was to get the far left off her back and make it appear the Ds are united - in terms of the LIV and the radicals.


This allows Nadler to plod along, the far left to say - see, Nancy is doing something as speaker - and Nancy can say talk to Nadler. The questions had been coming to her, she was being forced to say something on the topic daily.


Her announcement didn't change a thing. It just merely allowed the questions to stop.

Posted by: Steve_in_SoCal at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (cn/uI)

246 Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.

She's homeless?
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (aKsyK)


Teepee!

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (aS1PU)

247 >>I can speak from personal experience - once you've worked in a hospital, you will never look at doctors in the same way again.

Don't need to. Muldoon has opened my eyes.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (ZLI7S)

248 Her people are nomads, traveling the Plains, using all parts of the antelope.
---
I thought her tribe only hunted jackalope.

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (sWM8x)

249 Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.

Technically, a Hogan would be considered a house. The statement is MOSTLY FALSE.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (ZYB2s)

250 Gee, I wonder what Chirac had on the Clintons that caused his demise?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (LGZjw)

251 Would the GOPe be willing to sacrifice an election cycle or two in order to ensure Trump is destroyed? I wouldn't put it past them.

Risky. Eventually the Democrats will have no need for the Menshevik GOPe. Are they certain they'd be allowed to play a part after one or two of those elections?

Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (Z1eux)

252 244 I think there is no threading of the needle.

They have declared the whistleblower complaint an urgent threat to our national security. They can't declare that and then go, oh, well no matter.

They HAVE to vote on impeachment. And the media is egging them on.

Pelosi has to either push it forward or stop it. She cannot stop it. So she will have to bring it to a vote, and their best outcome is to vote and lose.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (9VeU0)

==========

Then why or why in her escalation speech did she not change a single thing about what Democrats are doing?

There's no impeachment special committee or scheduled vote or anything, just the same six committees doing the same six investigations they were doing last week.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (q80AH)

253 But... Illinois...

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:08 AM (bCLt0)

yeah, never so glad I left that place the week I turned 18.

no way you'd ever get me to move back there.

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (8D42x)

254 Anyway, I was talking to one of my kids about it recently and mentioned that doctors kill patients all the time. Thousands of people die every year from medical malpractice. And the kid was stunned to hear that. It was almost like saying there's no Santa Claus. Kids, I guess, have this vision of doctors being perfect and always curing you, etc.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:44 AM (FiUMj)

There is a reason they call it PRACTICING medicine.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (NgKpN)

255 211 Would the GOPe be willing to sacrifice an election cycle or two in order to ensure Trump is destroyed? I wouldn't put it past them.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 26, 2019 11:40 AM (FiUMj)

The fools don't realize they're out of cycles to sacrifice.

If a Warren or similar gets in with a Dem Congress, there will never be another meaningful election again. The Illegals will be given the vote, and the country will be stolen.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (J+mig)

256 Vitamin K is given postnatal to prevent blue baby syndrome, a complication that can occur when the mother and baby have incompatible blood types.

Posted by: Luke



*********


That is incorrect. In multiple ways.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (m45I2)

257 256 Vitamin K is given postnatal to prevent blue baby syndrome, a complication that can occur when the mother and baby have incompatible blood types.

Posted by: Luke


*********


That is incorrect. In multiple ways.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (m45I2)

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Yeah, fathers can give birth to babies too, you know.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (q80AH)

258 Guess I just have a difference of opinion with summa youse about Trump's being removed from office. After Trial, and conviction. Maybe it's just wishful thinkin, regarding not wanting the next Civil War to start.
Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:44 AM (bCLt0)

If Trump were to be impeached and removed, there would be a lot of demoralization on the part of many people, but no war.

The war will come after the Democrats fuck things up so completely.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (NFEMn)

259 Anyway, I was talking to one of my kids about it recently and mentioned that doctors kill patients all the time. Thousands of people die every year from medical malpractice.


That is a bullshit statistic. It started as "400,000 patients die every year as a result of medical mistakes". The data was derived from chart reviews of dead patients, and any error was a "medical mistake". Doctor prescribed tylenol to be given at 1500, but was not given until 1600? Medical mistake. Did that cause the patient to die? No. Did it contribute to the death? No. But it was a ----oooohhhh--- medical mistake!

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (dNzKv)

260 >That is incorrect. In multiple ways.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (m45I2)



Is there a billing code for being that wrong?

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (sjdRT)

261 Better watch it JackStraw or you'll get limericked.

Posted by: joncelli, because somebody had to at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (RD7QR)

262 haha

the Newsbusters.org site shows how bad the media meltdown really is - and how they are clinging on with lies and deceit

Here's a taste

'President Isn't Telling the Truth': Nicolle Wallace Cuts Away from Press Conference

Wow! The MSNBC host of Deadline: White House, Nicolle Wallace, declared President Trump to be a liar on Wednesday (how original) and used that as an excuse to cut away from the televised press conference almost 24 hours after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi declared the House's formal attempt to impeach the President. Perhaps Trump's truth telling about Joe and Hunter Biden was too much for her to tolerate. In any event, it was a stunning act of anti-journalism.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (vEIlU)

263 I was born in the 1950's. We drank milk from cows that ate grass contaminated by radioactive fallout from above ground atomic bomb tests in Nevada. I'm am an original fallout boy. I'm normal. I am deplorable and come to AOSHQ, but I'm normal. Really, I am.

Posted by: Archer at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (gmo/4)

264 248 Her people are nomads, traveling the Plains, using all parts of the antelope.
---
I thought her tribe only hunted jackalope.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (sWM8x)

Nah, they were following the great Crab Herds.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 11:49 AM (NgKpN)

265 They want impeachment so they can say "A president facing impeachment should not make judicial appointments."

That's their game.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (LGZjw)

266 @rollcall 11 minutes ago

JUST IN: Ex-Rep. Darrell Issa announces run against his former colleague, Rep. Duncan Hunter, who faces a federal trial on corruption charges #CA50

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (cF8AT)

267 Now a vitamin KKK injection I would probably object to.

The child grows up to look like Robert Byrd? Yuck.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (HaL55)

268 >>And the FISA IG report.

>>I have a strong feeling that DOJ has already made decisions about pursuing indictments based on the non-redacted report and Democrats know it.

#TwoWeeks

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (ZLI7S)

269 Then why or why in her escalation speech did she not change a single thing about what Democrats are doing?

There's no impeachment special committee or scheduled vote or anything, just the same six committees doing the same six investigations they were doing last week.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:48 AM (q80AH)


I think she wants to kick the can. I do not think she is able.

When the media was saying only 180 votes for impeachment, she could delay. They are saying the votes are there now. They are lying, but for whatever reason the crazies believe them.

She can't continue in hold pattern with the media saying the votes are there.



Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (9VeU0)

270 I see signs for CBD everywhere and have no idea what the hell it is.

So naturally I think of the real CBD.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 26, 2019


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Cannabidiol, one of the natural "cannabinoids" found the mari-joo-wanna plant. I dunno was it actually does. Right now it's being claimed it can alleviate everything from arthritis to Trump Derangement Syndrome.

(Just kidding about the TDS.)

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (ClOmq)

271
Burr is 19 senators?

You're probably thinking of Nadler.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (aKsyK)

272 I was going to be first, then my boss wanted me to actually do work.

can you imagine ...
Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (8D42x)


Get to HR.... accuse boss of something, anything....

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:20 AM (bCLt0)

that's just cruel ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:51 AM (8D42x)

273 "This can be a very powerful incentive for parents to not put their child a risk."







When you distill it down to it's essence, all laws and government regulation comes down to government sticking a gun in your face and telling you what to do, or else.

Always.

The trick is to ensure that the thing or behavior being regulated is actually worth killing a citizen to enforce. Because when you stick a gun in someone's face, it's not for show, it's a death threat, and for that threat to have any force, government must be willing to pull the trigger.

So when a beauty salon operates with a regular business license, but without a cosmetology license, you'd better be DAMNED sure that killing the proprietor is worth it. Because if they continue operation without that special license, eventually the cops are going to show up with guns.

The baby/vitamin K scenario gets a teeny step closer to justifiable since another life is involved. But still, is that nurse willing to have a cop shoot that parent in the face to give that baby the K shot? Because that's the end result.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at September 26, 2019 11:51 AM (veoSD)

274 And the kid was stunned to hear that. It was almost like saying there's no Santa Claus. Kids, I guess, have this vision of doctors being perfect and always curing you, etc.


**********

Aww, in all fairness I must have spoiled them. Skewed the curve if you will. Now that I'm retired they will have to readjust their expectations.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 26, 2019 11:51 AM (m45I2)

275 CNN's Toobin Alleges Quid Pro Quo: 'I Know English'

ABC, NBC: Congress Can 'Read Between the Lines' to Impeach Trump

NPR Talk Show Host: Many Dems Wish for Mitch McConnell to Die


...

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:51 AM (vEIlU)

276 Risky. Eventually the Democrats will have no need for the Menshevik GOPe. Are they certain they'd be allowed to play a part after one or two of those elections?
Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (Z1eux)

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I think Democrats do have some interest in maintaining the charade, and the Republicans would be happy to play their part.

It all boils down to whether GOP leadership wants to go there right now, and I don't *think* we're quite there yet.

And no, removing Trump will not spark CW2. But it'll go a long way toward it, and the ensuing left-wing madness would seal it... people are too afflicted by comfort to rise up at this time. A decade of one-party rule by these corrupt madmen would change that, though.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 11:51 AM (AzW6q)

277 GOP 2020? Nope. Leadership is pretty fine with Trump now. Trump's obviously developed decent relationships with people like Mitch and Lindsay Graham.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:41 AM (q80AH)

Graham was freed when McCain joined the choir infernal, and Mitch took a level in badass when the scumbags tried to intimidate his family at home.

Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (J+mig)

278 269 I think she wants to kick the can. I do not think she is able.

When the media was saying only 180 votes for impeachment, she could delay. They are saying the votes are there now. They are lying, but for whatever reason the crazies believe them.

She can't continue in hold pattern with the media saying the votes are there.



Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:50 AM (9VeU0)

==========

"We cannot overstep the committees and their work. We will deal with this in the proper manner."
-Nancy

"Argle bargle..."
-Activist Left

"We're working! Trust me! We have 6 committees!"
-Nancy

"Wallet...money..."
-Monied left

"Oh, shoot, it's less than six months to the election now. We can't vote on impeachment. It won't get through trial in time before the election. Gosh darn it. I guess we'll just have to beat him in the election."
-Nancy

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (q80AH)

279 I deal with the bottom of the barrel sample of medical professionals in my business that treat the bottom of the barrel sample of the American population. It's depressing and made me much more cynical than I'd like to be.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (Srnuc)

280 When the media was saying only 180 votes for impeachment, she could delay. They are saying the votes are there now.

And that's just here in the newsroom!

Posted by: CNN at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (OiC69)

281 >Cannabidiol, one of the natural "cannabinoids" found the mari-joo-wanna
plant. I dunno was it actually does. Right now it's being claimed it
can alleviate everything from arthritis to Trump Derangement Syndrome.


It can also be found in hemp, and hemp CBD oil has zero THC.

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 26, 2019 11:53 AM (sjdRT)

282 I take vitamin KY and I feel fine.

Posted by: Barry Saetoro at September 26, 2019 11:53 AM (LGZjw)

283 240 Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.

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Her people are nomads, traveling the Plains, using all parts of the antelope.
Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (7HtZB)

*puts fingers up like horns*

tatanka tatanka

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 26, 2019 11:53 AM (JFO2v)

284 Nobody should be for forced medical procedures.

Posted by: Roxanne, Roxanne lurking since 2007 at September 26, 2019 11:15 AM (xU7mE)



this is the attitude that Children's Advocacy Centers hold on exams for reports and allegations of child abuse and molestation. This is a nation-wide standard of care.

However, I guess the question is, should this be a different standard from inoculations? And if it is, why is not getting inoculations considered child abuse where rejecting exams for abuse and sexual assault is not?

(I don't have an answer, I just have a jarring inconsistency. The standards for the CAC were developed in in part due to the fall out of the child care center that was supposedly a satanic cult, as well as a realization that running kids through the wringer three or four times with doctors, social workers and LE after traumatic events was not best for the kids or the investigation)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2019 11:53 AM (xG/b0)

285 Anyway, I was talking to one of my kids about it recently and mentioned that doctors kill patients all the time. Thousands of people die every year from medical malpractice. And the kid was stunned to hear that...
--

There's a world class hospital associated with a 2nd tier Ivy sort of school near a place where a stripper accused a bunch of lacrosse players of rape-raping her where it's pretty common knowledge that they'll transfer you to the local sh*thole hospital once you're near death because they aren't going to let whatever gets recorded happen in their top-notch facility.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong [ at September 26, 2019 11:53 AM (nsE7Q)

286 So why is Macquire having to face so many D reps in a row here?

Posted by: jhawk90 at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (Xvo1a)

287 235
I'm sensing a wave election with thanks given to the new 'Stupid' party,
having gone past 'Republican Stupid' at plaid speed with their hash
pipe fueled dreams of impeachment, gun control, obstruction and open
borders. All third rail issues with conservative voters.


Posted by: Gmac- The light at the end of the tunnel is the Trump 2020 train. at September 26, 2019 11:45 AM (BvY54)


The election is over a year from now. The general public's attention is too short for this to do any real damage to the Dems.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (CQ3Qb)

288 282 I take vitamin KY and I feel fine.
Posted by: Barry Saetoro at September 26, 2019 11:53 AM (LGZjw)

It's a hot beef injections lads!

Posted by: Richard Branson at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (RD7QR)

289
I was born in the 1950's. We drank milk from cows that ate grass contaminated by radioactive fallout from above ground atomic bomb tests in Nevada.

Fortified with Strontium-90

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (aKsyK)

290 So . . . yeah a mathematical benefit, because no risk really, and you'd catch maybe 5 kids a decade. Logically the system says lets do it. However, patient autonomy is sacrificed. Stated differently, if we outlawed smoking completely banned it, would it prevent 5 deaths a decade - probably - should that be done . . . yah not gonna happen.

If you put neurotics in charge of society you are going to get a lot of "good" decisions that end up in less freedom.

Posted by: jumping off the ledge and hoping they land on trump at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (M7Wnl)

I'm reminded of some famous guy who said something about tyrants and "do gooders" and which is preferable to live under...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (8D42x)

291 287 The election is over a year from now. The general public's attention is too short for this to do any real damage to the Dems.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (CQ3Qb)

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It's certainly doing something to Democratic frontrunner Joe Biden.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:54 AM (q80AH)

292 CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil

Posted by: Archer at September 26, 2019 11:55 AM (gmo/4)

293 Teepee!

Posted by: DR.WTF at September 26, 2019 11:47 AM (aS1PU)


I was thinking the same thing. She migrates seasonally with the buffalo.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2019 11:55 AM (CQ3Qb)

294
I take vitamin KY and I feel fine.
Posted by: Barry Saetoro


A KY Colonel

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:55 AM (aKsyK)

295 272
I was going to be first, then my boss wanted me to actually do work.



can you imagine ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:19 AM (8D42x)





Get to HR.... accuse boss of something, anything....



Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 11:20 AM (bCLt0)



that's just cruel ...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 26, 2019 11:51 AM (8D42x)
Slave to The Man. Bastard.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 26, 2019 11:55 AM (Zv1X1)

296 >>So why is Macquire having to face so many D reps in a row here?

They won the election. More of them than Republicans on the committee.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:55 AM (ZLI7S)

297



Dave Rubin Says His Event Canceled Because Of Threats From Antifa

On Wednesday evening, commentator Dave Rubin stated that his September 29 event with People's Party of Canada leader Maxime Bernier, who is a candidate for Canadian Prime Minister, at Mohawk College in Hamilton, Canada, had been canceled because of threats from Antifa and an article in The Hamilton Spectator that somehow found cause to call Rubin a "far-right YouTube personality."

Rubin slammed Evan Balgord, the author of the article and the Executive Director of the Canadian Anti-Hate Network.


as far as I know Rubin is either a Libertarian or a Democrat. Not "far-right"

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 11:56 AM (vEIlU)

298 I was born in the 1950's. We drank milk from cows that ate grass contaminated by radioactive fallout from above ground atomic bomb tests in Nevada.
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The cows elaborate digestive system filtered out all the bad cancer causing stuff , making the milk safe to drink.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2019 11:56 AM (NFEMn)

299 Graham was freed when McCain joined the choir infernal, and Mitch took a level in badass when the scumbags tried to intimidate his family at home.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (J+mig)

I think that softball game attack and Rand Paul's neighbor also hardened a few spines.

Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:56 AM (Ciifn)

300 292
CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil


Posted by: Archer at September 26, 2019 11:55 AM (gmo/4)

You don't have the right kind. you have to get it fresh squeezed from our CBD here. They usually squeeze him on Monday morning after he's accumulated his oil over the weekend.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (Zv1X1)

301 John Kerry has confirmed that James Taylor will sing "You've Got A Friend" at the funeral of Jacques Chirac.

Just so there's no confusion with the corpse, Taylor will be wearing a red carnation.

Posted by: Barry Saetoro at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (LGZjw)

302
CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer


They need to go from town to town selling it from the back of a wagon and put on a show.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (aKsyK)

303 Graham was freed when McCain joined the choir infernal, and Mitch took a level in badass when the scumbags tried to intimidate his family at home.
Posted by: Cato, Media Delenda Est at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (J+mig)

I think that softball game attack and Rand Paul's neighbor also hardened a few spines.
Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:56 AM (Ciifn)

And Mitch likes getting his judges nominated and confirmed.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (NFEMn)

304 Have I mentioned that I'm troubled? Well, I am. Really, really troubled.

Posted by: Milt Rombley Playing Pocket Pool at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (sWM8x)

305 That was a giant, public shart.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (ZLI7S)

306 I think it's important to remember, we are dealing with a group of subversives that would be just fine with Hillary Clinton as commander in chief, with her high crimes, so obvious to everyone. And the way she has the gall to run her mouth, let alone even show her treacherous face, is something that makes me feel everything I ever thought about our great country, our laws and constitution, is a total lie.

Posted by: RunsWithScissors at September 26, 2019 11:59 AM (z/bkZ)

307 I'm sure Warren will still have a house if she's still with us in 16 years, but like Yang, she seems to think she and her comrades will rustle all Americans into cities, with micro-apartments and public transportation, vegan diets, etc.


Really, really tired of these big coastal city elites saying this sort of stuff -- they have no concept of how vast the country is, and how laughable it is to think people can live - let alone would agree to be - without their own cars.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 11:59 AM (bDqIh)

308 "Oh, shoot, it's less than six months to the election now. We can't vote on impeachment. It won't get through trial in time before the election. Gosh darn it. I guess we'll just have to beat him in the election."
-Nancy
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:52 AM (q80AH)


Could be. We will know soon whether it will be soon. I give it #twoweeks.

The reason why I say that Nancy cannot continue to delay, though, is that she will be held responsible for the failure to impeach. She may be ready to retire and maybe that is okay with her.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:59 AM (9VeU0)

309 283 240 Lizzie Warren claims no house, cars in 16 years.

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Her people are nomads, traveling the Plains, using all parts of the antelope.
Posted by: josephistan at September 26, 2019 11:46 AM (7HtZB)

*puts fingers up like horns*

tatanka tatanka
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 26, 2019


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Husband of squaw has many horses. Very rich tribal man, much honored.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 11:59 AM (ClOmq)

310 303
I think that softball game attack and Rand Paul's neighbor also hardened a few spines.
Posted by: Roy at September 26, 2019 11:56 AM (Ciifn)

And Mitch likes getting his judges nominated and confirmed.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (NFEMn)

========

That's going to be Mitch's legacy, and he knows it.

Completely reversing the the leftist takeover of the judiciary by first taking a stand against Merrick Garland (as leftist as RBG, by the way, no moderate), and then using all of his powers in the Senate to jam as many judges onto federal courts as he can manage that Trump throws at him.

That's a great legacy to shoot for, by the way.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 11:59 AM (q80AH)

311 The Ship Sticks commercial cracks me up every time. Large-breasted MILFs golf while the announcer explains that you can avoid inconvenience by shipping your golf clubs to your destination ahead of time.
Brilliant.

Posted by: anchorbabe fashion cop at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (ufFY8)

312 Has Solomon dropped his bombshell (if true), yet?

He said on Hannity, that Ukraine had documented the Biden's team "gloves are off" message to the succeeding prosecutor.

(For some reason the last 2 nights, Hannity has been a lot less interruptive, btw).

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (DuZls)

313 CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer

Possibly but I've heard from a couple of users that they have seen a significant benefit. Could be psychological in nature of course.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (Srnuc)

314 All this hearing crap is Preening For The Cameras.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (E+OcO)

315
Schiff's trying to trick Maguire now.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (vEIlU)

316 >>I think that softball game attack and Rand Paul's neighbor also hardened a few spines.


And the train crash when most of the GOP were on it heading to a GOP retreat.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (bDqIh)

317 Shouldn't intelligence be a prerequisite for serving as the chairman of the Intelligence Committee?

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 12:01 PM (LGZjw)

318 Schiff's trying to trick Maguire now.

They need that sound bite

Posted by: It's me donna at September 26, 2019 12:01 PM (O2RFr)

319 " after he's accumulated his oil over the weekend. "

That's not 'oil'.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2019 12:01 PM (q1BC2)

320 Of course, if Trump was removed from office before the election, he Could run anyway, yes?

Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 12:01 PM (bCLt0)

321 tatanka tatanka
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 26, 2019


Dances with Socialism

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (CQ3Qb)

322 191 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Here's ten others that will happily do it:
Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Toomey,
Wicker. Those are the ones that voted for open borders yesterday.
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)
**********
& Trump will veto it & Toomey is up for election he is doing nothing of the sort

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (BqBId)

323 After an entire post about the BS and lies in this Ukraine debacle, Ed Morrisey's takeaway is:

It's still possible that Trump committed some violation worthy of impeachment in regard to Ukraine.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (dNzKv)

324 308 Could be. We will know soon whether it will be soon. I give it #twoweeks.

The reason why I say that Nancy cannot continue to delay, though, is that she will be held responsible for the failure to impeach. She may be ready to retire and maybe that is okay with her.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:59 AM (9VeU0)

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Just to be clear, I do not for a second think that this strategy will work. I am convinced she's pursuing it, but I think it's fatally flawed.

Concentrating on the moderate wing of her party, they're never going to have that vote to define their support or antagonism around impeachment. They can go home and talk out of both sides of their mouths about impeachment, appealing to whatever crowd they're talking to at the moment, but it's going to be hard to convince independent voters that sending another Democrat, even if they don't actually support impeachment, is going to end the impeachment circus.

The only way to do that, Republican challengers, the RNC, and Donald Trump will say, is to elect Republicans.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (q80AH)

325 Mandatory CBD oil and apple cider vinegar would cure all illness and eliminate death. But we can't have it because Big Pharma.

Posted by: Alexandria Donkey Chompers-Kotex at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (sWM8x)

326 302
CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer

They need to go from town to town selling it from the back of a wagon and put on a show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019


*
*

I can just hear John Carradine's Shakespearean actor voice. "A moment of your time, friends! Only a moment of your time --"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (ClOmq)

327 Schiff's trying to trick Maguire now.
Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (vEIlU)
*******
That's like a retard trying to trick Einstein

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (BqBId)

328 CNN needs this to boost ratings to be able to hire staff in 2020 to defeat Trump.

They have been thinned out by ratings loss and layoffs.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (LGZjw)

329 OrangeManBad ... so he can't make judicial appointments (they say)

We impeached Trump because OrangeManBad ... so now he REALLY can't make appointments.


the argument really doesn't change with impeachment, it is just political theater ... two thumb down.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (Cus5s)

330 322 191 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Here's ten others that will happily do it:
Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Toomey,
Wicker. Those are the ones that voted for open borders yesterday.
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)
**********
& Trump will veto it & Toomey is up for election he is doing nothing of the sort
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (BqBId)

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A president can veto an impeachment conviction in the Senate?

I did not know that. Can you direct me to that passage in the Constitution?

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (q80AH)

331 Didn't Don Lemon accumulate his own oil?

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (DuZls)

332 23 Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day
______________

My dogs never want to go outside when it's raining, or when it's cold.

So in Australia I would have to be dragging them down the street over their howls of protest, yelling for them to come on so that I don't get arrested.

This nanny-statism crap has just gone way too far.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (k4dH2)

333
The acting DNI is kinda a shithead and did us no
favors today.


Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (tcA07)

334 331 Didn't Don Lemon accumulate his own oil?
Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (DuZls)

Yup. Does it smell okay to you?

Posted by: Don Lemonparty at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (RD7QR)

335 Have I mentioned that I'm troubled? Well, I am. Really, really troubled.'
Posted by: Milt Rombley Playing Pocket Pool at September 26, 2019 11:58 AM (sWM8x)


Mitt Romney, LARPing the Concern Troll lifestyle.

Wish he'd gone Furry or Civil War re-enactor instead. It would be far less annoying.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (xG/b0)

336 Possibly but I've heard from a couple of users that they have seen a significant benefit.

They'll put it in cereal soon. All with the goal of "can you imagine life without the wonderful marijuana plant?"

Posted by: t-bird at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (nIvDu)

337 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (q80AH)
*****
No the Wall stuff

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (BqBId)

338 The acting DNI is kinda a shithead and did us no
favors today.


Seemed weak.. Trump should nominate someone else

Posted by: It's me donna at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (O2RFr)

339 After an entire post about the BS and lies in this Ukraine debacle, Ed Morrisey's takeaway is:

It's still possible that Trump committed some violation worthy of impeachment in regard to Ukraine.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy



Bwahahahahahahaha.
IOW, "we don't know, but trust us!"

Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (xujhj)

340 who's gonna keep the dog walking records... sounds like a new career path for some gubmint weeny

Posted by: Pliney at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (nzKWW)

341 Ladies and Gentlemen: Woke Alternative History At Its Best.

For All Mankind, a series that envisions a past where the Russians beat us to the moon, and Nixon decides to send Female Astronauts to space instead of Dudes.

https://youtu.be/eoBvvrbmOvk

Posted by: Sharkman at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (S6rpg)

342

French fuckface Chirac is le north?
Good.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (tcA07)

343 During Desert Storm, we were given an untested vaccine for Anthrax.

It was given to all US personnel, and 75% of Brit personnel.

Better than 25% of each of those groups have developed an undiagnosed multi symptom disease, known as Gulf War Syndrome.

Some say it was caused by environmental issues, but this 'syndrome' has not shown up in the local populations of that area, or most other armed forces in the area.

All vaccines are not created equally.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (NgKpN)

344 337 Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:03 PM (q80AH)
*****
No the Wall stuff
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (BqBId)

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Well, that's not at all what we were talking about.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (q80AH)

345 Adam Schiff -- making Autistic Swedish teenagers look smart since 11:57.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (LGZjw)

346 "So in Australia I would have to be dragging them down the street over their howls of protest, yelling for them to come on so that I don't get arrested. "

No problem...

Just have your dogs sign a waiver.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (q1BC2)

347 the Hitler instinct is strong with the nurse and the doctorette, and unfortunately, a lot of women.

Posted by: x at September 26, 2019 12:05 PM (nFwvY)

348 SEKULOW: "So what do we have? We have political theater."

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

349 320 Of course, if Trump was removed from office before the election, he Could run anyway, yes?
Posted by: kraken at September 26, 2019 12:01 PM (bCLt0)


Hard to say. The Constitution says this:

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.


This makes it sound like those are 2 different consequences. That Rep from Florida who was an impeached Federal judge, not sure what his sentence was. But he clearly was able to run for Congress. But maybe technically that is not an office of honor.



Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (9VeU0)

350 340
who's gonna keep the dog walking records... sounds like a new career path for some gubmint weeny

Posted by: Pliney at September 26, 2019 12:04 PM (nzKWW)

*writes note to self*1. learn to code2. dog walking records app

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (Zv1X1)

351 @ArthurSchwartz

Mitt Romney's national security advisor from his failed 2012 campaign sits on the board of the Ukrainian gas company that paid Hunter Biden $50,000 / month.

American Thinker:

https://tinyurl.com/y4f7vnlx

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (cF8AT)

352 >>So in Australia I would have to be dragging them down the street over their howls of protest, yelling for them to come on so that I don't get arrested

Cold and rainy isn't a big problem in Australia.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (ZLI7S)

353 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Here's ten others that will happily do it:
Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Toomey,
Wicker. Those are the ones that voted for open borders yesterday.
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

354
Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day

Didn't people want to move to Australia several years ago to ESCAPE big government?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (aKsyK)

355 After an entire post about the BS and lies in this Ukraine debacle, Ed Morrisey's takeaway is:

It's still possible that Trump committed some violation worthy of impeachment in regard to Ukraine.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (dNzKv)


Poppin' Fresh can always be counted on for some "in fairness" dumbfuckery.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (y7DUB)

356 "I say that Nancy cannot continue to delay, though, is that she will be
held responsible for the failure to impeach. She may be ready to retire
and maybe that is okay with her."Posted by: blaster

that may be, but until they vote to investigate, it looks like she is just stringing the far left along, hoping the news cycle breaks, and she can drop it. If this whistle blower crap dies then the impeach momentum may die with it ... especially as the Ukraine thang turns into a bombshell against Hillary and Biden and ???

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (Cus5s)

357 Possibly but I've heard from a couple of users that they have seen a significant benefit. Could be psychological in nature of course.
_______________

It helped my dog's hip arthritis. She went from constantly limping and having trouble sitting to never limping and sitting easily.

And I have a hard time believing that I talked her into thinking that it worked. It just worked.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (k4dH2)

358 353 Sure, Romney might be in favor, but who are the other 19?
Here's ten others that will happily do it:
Alexander, Blunt, Collins, Lee, Moran, Murkowski, Paul, Portman, Toomey,
Wicker. Those are the ones that voted for open borders yesterday.
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)
Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (BqBId)

=========

He used them as an example of who would vote to convict.

Thanks for playing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (q80AH)

359 Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)
**********
& Trump will veto it & Toomey is up for election he is doing nothing of the sort
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (BqBId)

Look for the Rs who have similar money deals overseas to what the Bidens had. It's the swamp striking back.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (xqRaG)

360 >>Australia is passing a law making it illegal not to walk your dog every day

*stage whisper*

Make it illegal to not give us tummy scritches for at least 10 minutes/day! And bones, we need moar bones!! And legal to kill squirrels. . .

Posted by: DoggyAnon at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (bDqIh)

361 Still No Proof That Trump Hasn't Committed Crimes We Don't Know About!

Posted by: CNN at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (nIvDu)

362 Alcee Hastings should NOT have been allowed to be on the ballot.

Posted by: JAS at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (0LxiW)

363 326 302
CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer

They need to go from town to town selling it from the back of a wagon and put on a show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019

*
*

I can just hear John Carradine's Shakespearean actor voice. "A moment of your time, friends! Only a moment of your time --"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (ClOmq)

With Cher as a Dancing girl?

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

364 Didn't people want to move to Australia several years ago to ESCAPE big government?



Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (aKsyK)

Well quite awhile back weren't they convicts? So yeah.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (Zv1X1)

365 **perks up**

Did someone say "large breasted MILFs?"

Posted by: Mary Poppins' Practically Perfect Piercing at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (Ki5SV)

366 Schiff is making an even bigger fool of himself.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (ZLI7S)

367 CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer


I know nothing about the stuff but DanMa'am doesn't eat Aleve like candy anymore. Says it really helps with arthritis in her hip.

Posted by: DanMan at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (XTiHL)

368 And I have a hard time believing that I talked her into thinking that it worked. It just worked.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (k4dH2)

That's why I lean thinking that it does work.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (Srnuc)

369 Just to be clear, I do not for a second think that this strategy will work. I am convinced she's pursuing it, but I think it's fatally flawed.
....
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (q80AH)


Perhaps we are saying the same thing - I am saying she may want to thread it, but she is not able.

I still think her best outcome is to put it to a vote and have it fail.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:09 PM (9VeU0)

370 Male dogs get 1 leg / day to hump...

Posted by: Pliney at September 26, 2019 12:09 PM (nzKWW)

371 It's still possible that Trump committed some violation worthy of impeachment in regard to Ukraine.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (dNzKv)
---
It "was possible" that Clinton suborned perjury--more than that it actually was confirmed by Monica Lewinsky long after the fact.

People often forget that her role is not just an underling giving blowjobs to the President in the Oval Office. That she was caught on tape asking Linda Trip to lie on the stand. And I believe that she confessed that she had already done so.

Years after the fact, Lewinsky admitted that Clinton instructed her to schmooze Tripp into perjuring herself.

And yet some of the same pundits who were saying "Remember how bad it turned out impeaching Clinton?"--who suborned perjury--are the ones hanging their hat on we might be catching Trump in having done something he shouldn't have.

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:09 PM (DuZls)

372 Crikey!

(Obligatory remark about funny Australian accents.)

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 12:09 PM (LGZjw)

373 NYT this morning has a headline reading "Trump Asked Favor!"

Just shoot me.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 26, 2019 12:09 PM (NVYyb)

374 >> Still No Proof That Trump Hasn't Committed Crimes We Don't Know About!


OK, that is not the proper application of assessing "unknown unknowns," you guys. . .

Posted by: Donald Rumsfeld at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (bDqIh)

375 Seems like what you want is the government to step in to prevent these medical staff people from throwing their weight around.

And therein lies the problem. If you want this stuff fixed, there's gonna be a little government involved. Just announcing "the government is evil and must be stopped" isn't going to fix anything.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 26, 2019 11:21 AM (hku12)

v\they both threatened to involve the state to force compliance with their desires.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (MwFQu)

376 Has Solomon dropped his bombshell (if true), yet?

He said on Hannity, that Ukraine had documented the Biden's team "gloves are off" message to the succeeding prosecutor.

(For some reason the last 2 nights, Hannity has been a lot less interruptive, btw).
Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:00 PM (DuZls)


checked a little while ago, didn't see it

he also said he's going to drop something new tonight on Hannity's show

Hey, I watch. It's amazing what the rest of the country does not know.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (vEIlU)

377
And I have a hard time believing that I talked her into thinking that it worked. It just worked.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (k4dH2)

Come on admit it TP. You read her the instructions and what the results could be, didn't you?

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (Zv1X1)

378 I can just hear John Carradine's Shakespearean actor voice. "A moment of your time, friends! Only a moment of your time --"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (ClOmq)

With Cher as a Dancing girl?
Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019


*
*

"I was born in the wagon of a travelin' show;
"My mama used to dance for the money they'd throw.
Grandpa'd do whatever he could --
Preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of Dr. Good!"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (ClOmq)

379 He used them as an example of who would vote to convict.

Thanks for playing.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (q80AH)
*****
He is a know nothing Pants Shitter, Toomey is going to have a tough election, that vote was a fart in an EF5 tornado. Meant Nothing cause they all know PDT will veto it. Thanks for Not Knowing Bye Now

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (BqBId)

380 359 Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 11:37 AM (tOP4K)
**********
& Trump will veto it & Toomey is up for election he is doing nothing of the sort
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (BqBId)

Look for the Rs who have similar money deals overseas to what the Bidens had. It's the swamp striking back.
Posted by: zmdavid at September 26, 2019 12:07 PM (xqRaG)

Yup, look for 'Book deals' where the companies make no money, and look for politicians who have relatives who are PAID Board members.

Bribery, pure and simple.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (NgKpN)

381 So this whole hearing is about this guy taking a whstleblower's assertions to the FBI and JOJ instead of congress?

And this amounts to a cover-up?

Posted by: DanMan at September 26, 2019 12:11 PM (XTiHL)

382 Now Schiff is demeaning Maguire. When he doesn't get the snippet he wants he gets testy.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:11 PM (vEIlU)

383 Maguire's difficulty is his belief that he is dealing with honorable people in this commitee.

Posted by: BluesFish at September 26, 2019 12:11 PM (WQZ1O)

384 Schiff is clumsy and incompetent.

The West Coast Nadler.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 12:11 PM (LGZjw)

385 & Trump will veto it & Toomey is up for election he is doing nothing of the sort
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (BqBId)

----------

Yeah, Toomey is one who would have to be paid off, big time, to go along with a conviction.

Most Republicans who vote to convict would be finished in politics, and would need to be assured that they and their and families will be shitting in high cotton forevermore.

Mitch won't go there, and spend so much political and financial capital, unless he's certain that Trump will lose reelection. Then his calculations will shift towards currying favor with Democrats by any means necessary, and not until then.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 12:11 PM (AzW6q)

386 Mitt Romney's national security advisor from his failed 2012 campaign
sits on the board of the Ukrainian gas company that paid Hunter Biden
$50,000 / month.

---------
Of note is that he may have been the only Romney advisor who didn't have his head up his own ass during the entire campaign.

Posted by: G at September 26, 2019 12:11 PM (5NMZN)

387 369 Just to be clear, I do not for a second think that this strategy will work. I am convinced she's pursuing it, but I think it's fatally flawed.
....
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:02 PM (q80AH)

Perhaps we are saying the same thing - I am saying she may want to thread it, but she is not able.

I still think her best outcome is to put it to a vote and have it fail.
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:09 PM (9VeU0)

=========

I saw it as building on each other.

But yeah. Bring it to vote and let the red state Dems kill it.

It'll piss off the activist left, but it could save the red state Dems. It'll prolong her problems, not fix them, but it could also keep her in power.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (q80AH)

388 367 CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer

I know nothing about the stuff but DanMa'am doesn't eat Aleve like candy anymore. Says it really helps with arthritis in her hip.
Posted by: DanMan at September 26, 2019


*
*

I've got a little arthritis, or so I guess it is, in my wrists. Maybe this CBD stuff might be worth a try if it's not too pricey.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (ClOmq)

389 With Cher as a Dancing girl?
Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

She was born in the wagon of a traveling' show ...

Posted by: Fox2! at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (MwFQu)

390 Cold and rainy isn't a big problem in Australia.
_________________

Not a big problem here in the desert SW either, which is why my dogs get a walk almost every day -- even without a government mandate. But not on rainy days.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (k4dH2)

391 He is a know nothing Pants Shitter, Toomey is going
to have a tough election, that vote was a fart in an EF5 tornado. Meant
Nothing cause they all know PDT will veto it. Thanks for Not Knowing Bye
Now

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM


Yes, I was using it as an example of RINOs who would vote to convict in an impeachment trial. And, as was pointed out previously, the President can't veto an impeachment vote.
Who's really the "know nothing Pants Shitter" here?

Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (OMsf+)

392 I would think Ukraine would be livid at Biden for plundering them and then humiliating them on the world stage. Trump should not need to offer them anything to investigate Biden. And of course, he didn't.

Posted by: zmdavid at September 26, 2019 12:13 PM (xqRaG)

393 OK all, the weathers too nice to stay inside. Luego.

Posted by: Cannibal Bob 'invite a friend for dinner!' at September 26, 2019 12:13 PM (Zv1X1)

394 @ArthurSchwartz

Mitt Romney's national security advisor from his failed 2012 campaign sits on the board of the Ukrainian gas company that paid Hunter Biden $50,000 / month.

American Thinker:

https://tinyurl.com/y4f7vnlx

Posted by: Tami at September 26, 2019 12:06 PM (cF8AT)



of course, we knew there was a connection, he's having a meltdown too

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:13 PM (vEIlU)

395

Can Someone Tell Me Why The White House Won't Leak The Fake Whistleblower's Name??

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (tcA07)

396 389 With Cher as a Dancing girl?
Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

She was born in the wagon of a traveling' show ...
Posted by: Fox2! at September 26, 2019


*
*

"Three months later, I'm a gal in trouble
And I haven't seen him for a while --"

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (ClOmq)

397 CBD Oil = 19th century snake oil
Posted by: Archer

They need to go from town to town selling it from the back of a wagon and put on a show.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr.


Won't matter what they do or say.
Some industries will never allow it and the government will never allow it for some industries. Mainly transportation.

My company has already said, it they detect it on a drug test, you're gone. Zero tolerance policy.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (xujhj)

398 NYT this morning has a headline reading "Trump Asked Favor!"

Same headline at the LAT this morning - not "Biden strong-arms Ukraine officials"

Posted by: Eisenhorn at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (uGHnY)

399
NYT this morning has a headline reading "Trump Asked Favor!"

Just shoot me.
Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever


Every good boy deserves favor.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (aKsyK)

400 Interfering with infant bonding is way worse than refusing a vitamin K shot.

Posted by: Emmie at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (g5Dsh)

401 Schiff has hearings about a bullshit partisan complaint but has ZERO hearings on Iranian agents operating in the US.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (LGZjw)

402

Or is that a trap, too -- the Democrats are waiting to pounce if the whistleblower's name is leaked??

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (tcA07)

403 Can Someone Tell Me Why The White House Won't Leak The Fake Whistleblower's Name??
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (tcA07)


Everyone knows it is Sue Gordon they don't have to. Or they already did.

Either way the point has been made.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (9VeU0)

404 Yes, I was using it as an example of RINOs who would vote to convict in an impeachment trial. And, as was pointed out previously, the President can't veto an impeachment vote.
Who's really the "know nothing Pants Shitter" here?
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
---
Right. Impeachment is not a bill. But that's also why they need the supermajority IIRC. So it's like an unvetoable resolution by Congress.

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (DuZls)

405 I was born in the wagon of a travelin' show;
"My mama used to dance for the money they'd throw.
Grandpa'd do whatever he could --
Preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of Dr. Good!"
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (ClOmq)

The irony is in the first verse:
Papa'd do whatever he could --
Preach a little gospel, sell a couple bottles of Dr. Good!"

Posted by: Fox2! at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (MwFQu)

406 >>351
@ArthurSchwartz



Mitt Romney's national security advisor from his failed 2012
campaign sits on the board of the Ukrainian gas company that paid Hunter
Biden $50,000 / month.



American Thinker:



https://tinyurl.com/y4f7vnlx

Mittens is in on this treason up to his magic underwear.

Posted by: Galil at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (Pzzpr)

407 Everyone knows it is Sue Gordon they don't have t

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (9VeU0)
---
Batgirl?

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (DuZls)

408 Remember a few months back, Rudy was going to go over to Ukraine and the Dem's freaked out then.

Wow, Ukraine must be some kind of ticking time bomb for the Dems.

Posted by: WisRich at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (G0vdT)

409 I've got a little arthritis, or so I guess it is, in my wrists. Maybe this CBD stuff might be worth a try if it's not too pricey.
Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius


My father-in-law uses it and swears by it.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (xujhj)

410
SEKULOW: "So what do we have? We have political theater."


Political Theater of the Absurd. It makes no sense nor is it supposed to.

Worst part is, it's not entertaining, not in the least. It just shows the country how many congresscritters need to be voted out and replaced with someone who knows what their job is, namely to uphold the Constitution.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (HaL55)

411 Media reporting on Bidens brother profiting too.

Haha

Done.

Posted by: Ha at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (B/g/o)

412 Article II, section ??? of the constitution clearly states:

The President may never ask for favors from foreign leaders. This is an impeachable offense.


We best pack it up, boys. The turkey is in the oven. Going to be an early night.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (KUaJL)

413 Yes, I was using it as an example of RINOs who would vote to convict in an impeachment trial. And, as was pointed out previously, the President can't veto an impeachment vote.

-------

I agree on most of those guys - not Paul or Toomey. Probably not Lee.

But none of them (save Romney) will vote for a conviction unless Mitch gives them the go-ahead, and I just don't see him doing that. Not now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (AzW6q)

414 404 Yes, I was using it as an example of RINOs who would vote to convict in an impeachment trial. And, as was pointed out previously, the President can't veto an impeachment vote.
Who's really the "know nothing Pants Shitter" here?
Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
---
Right. Impeachment is not a bill. But that's also why they need the supermajority IIRC. So it's like an unvetoable resolution by Congress.
Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (DuZls)

=========

Articles of impeachment vote is a simple majority in the House.

Conviction in the Senate is 67 senators (2/3 of present senators).

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (q80AH)

415 >>Can Someone Tell Me Why The White House Won't Leak The Fake Whistleblower's Name??

Cause it's illegal? Hasn't gotten a lot of ink because Trump but one of the biggest focuses of the DOJ under Trump since day 1 was a serious crackdown on leakers. It was leaking that got the Russia hoax started in the first place.


The name will come out in due time.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (ZLI7S)

416 The transcript is completely benign, "perfect" and "beautiful" one might say.

So Adam Shitt makes stuff up, and proudly admits to doing so. He starts off the hearing making up dialogue not in the call.

And then he suggests the House of Representatives should overturn an election based solely on his fantasy. This is way past parody. We are into public displays of mental illness at this point. Responsible Democrats need to find him a quiet institutional setting and take away his TV rights.
Not kidding, this is astounding.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (NVYyb)

417 Can Someone Tell Me Why The White House Won't Leak The Fake Whistleblower's Name??
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:14 PM (tcA07)


I suppose it already has. Everyone is talking about her.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (vEIlU)

418 The Hitler instinct is strong with the nurse and the doctorette, and unfortunately, a lot of women.

To fart like old faithful and have injections of pervitin (methamphetamine) and eukodol(oxycontin)?

Posted by: adobe juan dr morel kenobe at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (7dQfL)

419 Mittens is in on this treason up to his magic underwear.
---
Well, I told you I'm troubled.

Posted by: Milt Rombley Playing Pocket Pool at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (sWM8x)

420

Question:

Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (tcA07)

421 There's a world class hospital associated with a 2nd tier Ivy sort of school near a place where a stripper accused a bunch of lacrosse players of rape-raping her where it's pretty common knowledge that they'll transfer you to the local sh*thole hospital once you're near death because they aren't going to let whatever gets recorded happen in their top-notch facility.
Posted by: Moron Robbie

---

Gee - imagine that.

My niece, God rest her soul, was transferred out of THE very large midwestern university hospital to another hosp the day before she died from non-hodgkin's lymphoma as OSU didn't want her death on their stats.

Like my sis didn't have enough stress already.

Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

422 Sounds like Pelosi will move on USMCA.

Huge for Trump.

Posted by: Ha at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (B/g/o)

423

I saw Sue Gordon on The Twilight Zone last night.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0734641

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (aKsyK)

424 422 Sounds like Pelosi will move on USMCA.

Huge for Trump.
Posted by: Ha at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (B/g/o)
------

Now that's interesting.

Posted by: WisRich at September 26, 2019 12:19 PM (G0vdT)

425

Eh, Maguire is doing alright given the circumstances. We all can't be Lewandowski or the Donald.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:19 PM (vEIlU)

426
Articles of impeachment vote is a simple majority in the House.

Conviction in the Senate is 67 senators (2/3 of present senators).
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, back to random thoughts at September 26, 2019 12:16 PM (q80AH)
---
Well, I was thinking mostly of the Senate.

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:19 PM (DuZls)

427
Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer


Blower of the Year

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 26, 2019 12:19 PM (aKsyK)

428 420

Question:

Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (tcA07)

With a Bag over his/her head?

Person of the Year edition?

After their Nobel Peace Prize?

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:19 PM (NgKpN)

429 Question:

Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer



THEY'RE GOING TO DISNEY WORLD!

Posted by: rickb223 at September 26, 2019 12:19 PM (xujhj)

430 I blocked that shit on my other machine, boot this one up and blow and behold, the bullshit is back.

Fuck that monkey with your dick.

Posted by: weft cut-loop at September 26, 2019 12:20 PM (1Vobx)

431 Right. Impeachment is not a bill. But that's also why they need the supermajority IIRC. So it's like an unvetoable resolution by Congress.
Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:15 PM (DuZls)]


Resolutions. Here is a lot from wikipedia (yeah I know)

Impeachment proceedings may be requested by a member of the House of Representatives on his or her own initiative, either by presenting a list of the charges under oath or by asking for referral to the appropriate committee. The impeachment process may be requested by non-members. For example, when the Judicial Conference of the United States suggests a federal judge be impeached, a charge of actions constituting grounds for impeachment may come from a special prosecutor, the President, or state or territorial legislature, grand jury, or by petition. An impeachment proceeding formally begins with a resolution adopted by the full House of Representatives, which typically includes a referral to a House committee.

The type of impeachment resolution determines the committee to which it is referred. A resolution impeaching a particular individual is typically referred to the House Committee on the Judiciary. A resolution to authorize an investigation regarding impeachable conduct is referred to the House Committee on Rules, and then to the Judiciary Committee. The House Committee on the Judiciary, by majority vote, will determine whether grounds for impeachment exist. If the Committee finds grounds for impeachment, it will set forth specific allegations of misconduct in one or more articles of impeachment. The Impeachment Resolution, or Articles of Impeachment, are then reported to the full House with the committee's recommendations.



SO - Pelosi is talking "Impeachment Inquiry" which is not a thing in the House rules. To get to proceedings they have to have a vote in the House.

Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:20 PM (9VeU0)

432 Schiff said there are "several others" who know of the complaint - ukraine discussion topic.

uh huh

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:20 PM (vEIlU)

433 The Ukraine thing frags Biden.

I think Pelosi knows that he has zero chance so she was ok with him being a casualty. This wouldn't be a story without her gaming that out.

Posted by: Cocaine Fueled War Turtle at September 26, 2019 12:20 PM (gAMkn)

434
What I'm more curious about than the Senate is the House. I don't think Pelosi has left herself any choice but to put this turd to a vote - but how strong is Dem control over their caucus? Can they bring along enough red-state Dems and blue-state Rs for a majority?

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (AzW6q)

435 Question:

Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (tcA07)

I'm looking forward to seeing them on Dancing with the Stars next season

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (N4xQB)

436 Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Has CNN hired her yet?

Apparently her complaint was a CNN-level screed on why Trump's a poopyhead.

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (DuZls)

437
My niece, God rest her soul, was transferred out of THE very large midwestern university hospital to another hosp the day before she died from non-hodgkin's lymphoma as OSU didn't want her death on their stats.

Like my sis didn't have enough stress already.
Posted by: Tonypete at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (Y4EXg)

Its why hospitals LOVE Hospice.

They send them home to die.

Posted by: Darth Quixote at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (NgKpN)

438 Schiff is literally giving a lecture on how bad it would be to have a politician use fake dirt gathered with the help of overseas actors to slime their opponent and win an election.

We have now descended into parody.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (ZLI7S)

439 You'd think that the Dims would not want the general public wondering about why Hunter Biden, a whore-mongering crackhead screw-up who is dumber than dirt, was being paid $50,000 a month by a Ukranian energy company, when dear Hunter knows jack shit about energy and probably couldn't find the Ukraine on a map.

Do they really want endless hearings that will expose the rampant corruption of Joe Biden and his crooked spawn, and by extension, Obama? Really? Because Trump is not the kind of person who will just roll over and let that kind of shit pass. He'll put the spotlight right where it belongs: on the crooked Bidens and the whole pay-for-access cesspool that is our federal government.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (k4dH2)

440
Sounds like Pelosi will move on USMCA.



Huge for Trump.

Posted by: Ha at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (B/g/o)

Helps them counter the claim that they are doing nothing but impeachment.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (xPl2J)

441 429 Question:

Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer
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Nope but heard that she got a cushy job that pay's $50k/month. No experience needed.

Posted by: WisRich at September 26, 2019 12:21 PM (G0vdT)

442 Posted by: Bert G at September 26, 2019 12:12 PM (OMsf+)
*****
Never said that But you be you

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:22 PM (BqBId)

443 "Interfering with infant bonding is way worse than refusing a vitamin K shot."Posted by: Emmie

right, what was the point of taking the baby away, with or without the shot? Sounds like just an arrogant nurse punishing the mother, and child.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2019 12:22 PM (Cus5s)

444

NOOOOD

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:22 PM (vEIlU)

445 At the funeral home, we had to sign that we knew that cremation meant that there wouldn't be a body afterward.

Cause someone didn't get that. An sued. And won.
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 11:28 AM (9VeU0)

Many years ago, I was called down to the AFROTC office to sign a form acknowledging that, if I was commissioned, I could be assigned to duty anywhere in the world, and that those duties could involve nuclear weapons.

I suspect that somebody sued to get out of a service obligation by claiming that they didn't know that world wide assignments meant they could be sent anywhere in the world, and that certain AFSCs almost guaranteed that you would be working with nukes.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 26, 2019 12:23 PM (MwFQu)

446 the problem with taking the impeachment investigation to a vote, it exposes her members ... they have to vote yes or no, which might hurt them with their base, or hurt them with the moderate voter.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 26, 2019 12:23 PM (Cus5s)

447 422 Sounds like Pelosi will move on USMCA.



Huge for Trump.

Posted by: Ha at September 26, 2019 12:18 PM (B/g/o)

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Now that's interesting.


Can somebody 'splain that to me?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 26, 2019 12:23 PM (HaL55)

448 Wow, that hearing was a waste of time, huh?

Posted by: Bunch of dudes sitting around in a circle jerk at September 26, 2019 12:23 PM (Geoni)

449
SO - Pelosi is talking "Impeachment Inquiry" which is not a thing in the House rules. To get to proceedings they have to have a vote in the House.
Posted by: blaster at September 26, 2019 12:20 PM (9VeU0)
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I'm guessing the other chair-people probably won't take lightly their special inquiry being thrown into one committee.

So, I'm thinking that at least for a little while, it's going to stay theater.

Posted by: Axeman at September 26, 2019 12:24 PM (DuZls)

450 Wait, you mean... Ketamine?
Well that makes sense.
In Chicago.

Posted by: Kid Tyrone at September 26, 2019 12:26 PM (323My)

451 Question:

Has The Fake Whistleblower Posed For The Cover of TIME Yet?
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 26, 2019 12:17 PM (tcA07)

(S)he's appearing nude on the cover of the Body issue of ESPN magazine.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 26, 2019 12:28 PM (MwFQu)

452 he also said he's going to drop something new tonight on Hannity's show



Hey, I watch. It's amazing what the rest of the country does not know.

Posted by: artisanal 'ette at September 26, 2019 12:10 PM (vEIlU)


I'm pretty tired of the folks on both sides playing this stuff for ratings and clicks.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 26, 2019 12:31 PM (CQ3Qb)

453 the problem with taking the impeachment investigation to a vote, it exposes her members ... they have to vote yes or no, which might hurt them with their base, or hurt them with the moderate voter.

they basically already did vote for impeachment. Yesterday McCarthy forced a vote for impeachment, the dems + Amash all voted to table that vote. So they had to show their hand with that vote not to vote.

Posted by: DanMan at September 26, 2019 12:32 PM (XTiHL)

454
Nicole Sganga @NicoleSganga
16h
FLAG: Senator Elizabeth Warren appears uncharacteristically flustered when asked if her ethics plan would allow her Vice President's son to serve on the board of a foreign company: "No," she said. "I don't know. I mean I'd have to go back and look at the details."

Posted by: Derp State is in Deep Shit at September 26, 2019 12:39 PM (BqBId)

455 Prediction: If the dems lose the House, Nan is retiring.

Posted by: Sooner at September 26, 2019 01:04 PM (Fs5vw)

456 .

Mini-AOC is back!

Did you know that Climate Change just means that Mother Nature is transgendering into Father Nature?

And it's safe for her to return to the internet now that liberals have stated that attacking a child like Greta is wrong.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1176903864194236417

Posted by: Mongo at September 26, 2019 01:12 PM (pHl8P)

457 I thought both the House AND the Senate had to have a super majority to both impeach and to convict.

Posted by: Grannymimi at September 26, 2019 01:18 PM (u5LFV)

458 Imagine the hilarity if Trump is removed from office and then wins the 2020 presidential election.

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 26, 2019 01:24 PM (hKi6n)

459 Hey legal scholars, if Trump doesn't finish the 2016 term, does it count or does it not count for eligibility to run in 2024?

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at September 26, 2019 01:26 PM (hKi6n)

460

Schiff has the demos working off the same script like trained seals and stacked the deck 2:1 Democrats getting to question and repeat slanted and false Talking points and sound bites as if true. Good Alinskey stuff.
The man is definitely bOnKeRs .....wow double wow
so self unaware...never apologised for slandering Maguire WHY not in their vocabulary, shameful but they have no shame.

Posted by: saf at September 26, 2019 01:48 PM (5IHGB)

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