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Saturday Evening Movie Thread 09-21-2019 [Hosted By: MovieGique]
I, too, got tired of my children complaining about the ghosts in the tiny, dark room I locked them in.
In this movie, Emile Hirsch (Killer Joe)—who is not a young, skinny Jack Black, don't be fooled—plays "Dad" to Chloe (Lexy Kolker) while nursing a seemingly paranoid fantasy about "bad men" who want to kill them. We immediately know not all is as it seems because Chloe is, indeed, a freak. In particular, she can see into remote locations—and be seen in those locations—though she's not aware she's doing it. Chloe desperately wants a mom, since her own mother (Mary, Amanda Crew, "Silicon Valley") died when she was a baby. Dad has a plan to train her to be normal, then let her live with the family across the street neighbors, which is something Chloe desperately wants. So much so that she projects into her future foster sister's bedroom and makes her pretend to be her mother, cuddle her and tell her she loves her. Dad, too, seems odd, since he insists he can only protect her if he doesn't fall asleep. And when he does fall asleep, things happen: The lights in the house go on, the water starts working, strange noises emerge from outside, etc.
Bruce Dern appears in an ice cream truck. Scarier than anything in "IT".
I won't spoil it, because this movie works by imposing a number of layers on top of each other, each of which by itself is fairly ordinary, but which keep you engaged until the next layer is pulled back. It takes about 30 minutes to get a strong picture of what's going on, for example, with the mysterious ice cream man (Bruce Dern, aged hippie, and, oh, I dunno, From Up On Poppy Hill) who is aggressively trying to lure Chloe into his truck. But then you have the mystery of what the deal is with Dad. And is the (really hot) Federal Agent (Grace Park, who appears mostly on TV and in my better dreams) good or evil or somewhere in between, and more importantly: can she be trusted? The thing that works about this movie is that it sets up its rules (which are admittedly rather broad, conceptually) and then lives by them. You learn X, and that explains certain phenomena that come before (and more importantly, in some ways, after). Then you learn Y, which explains some other stuff, and so on until you get a fairly good (if simple) picture of what the world is and how our characters play their roles in it. And shock of shocks, for a movie which is about existential crises for all of humanity, it's rather non-judgmental. The second half of the movie, when it seems like it could veer into straight up action, reminds us that what we're viewing is actually pretty horrifying. There's a lot of murder going on—and it's all pretty understandable. Which is a kind of uncomfortable feeling. Obviously, we're biased one way by the mere orientation of the telling—but on the other hand, we (the audience) would be the very definite losers of any the scenarios that play out where we're rooting for one side over the other.
This movie makes me feel conflicted about Grace Park. That's something I never want to feel
It's shockingly nuanced for a modern movie, much less a horror movie, and it does it without being political. I was worried because of this one line (naturally played in the trailer) where they talk about "making people illegal"—a red flag, stay-away sign for anyone not wanting to be bludgeoned with some heavy-handed pro-illegal-alien message. But in the movie, there's: a) no connection made (or even reasonably plausible) to our modern immigration crises; b) no real judgment as to whether or not "making people illegal" is good or bad. And not just immigration, the movie skillfully avoids any real sociopolitical commentary on homeschooling, racism or any of the other low-hanging fruit lazy writers go to these days. The later half gets a little action-y, as mentioned, but there's still a fair amount of horror, or at least horrific moments. The ending, involving a hellfire missile, edges into goofy, but in a sort of expected cinematic way, kind of like Ready Or Not's somewhat bombastic denouement. It didn't bug me much. It's still technically summer, after all. Also, that last section is a good, suspenseful build-up with a little cat-and-mouse between the (hot) federal agent and dad, as the latter stalls for time and the former is smart enough to put the pieces together Besides being hot, federal agent woman is kind of a complex character. She comes off as a bleeding heart at times early on (when she's on TV) but then she's as tough and no-nonsense as her character would really have to be. Top notch acting, which is true of all the principals. Emile Hirsch's torment bubbles under the surface but ends up explaining a lot of his nigh-hysteria, as he literally lives an existence no one else is for nearly seven years. (This makes perfect sense in context.) Amanda Crew has limited screen time but she makes the most of it, being both sympathetic on the one hand, and a little scary on the other (much like Dad). Why, Bruce Dern nearly convinces me he's not thoroughly evil. (I kid the Dern, he's quite good here, though I think his nose hairs should get 10% of his fee.)
If you look closely, you can see where Trump signed the wall. (I kid! It's not even a wall!)
Speaking of small amounts of screen-time they do a lot with, the across the street neighbors played by Ava Telek, Matty Finochio and especially Michelle Harrison do great work in their one main scene. And a special shout-out to the thuggish Alex Paunovic, who provides the climactic moments of the film with its weird mix of horror and comedy. Paunovic and (sidekick federal agent) Reese Alexander were in Dead Rising: Watchtower, an earlier attempt by writer/director team Zach Lipovsky and Adam B. Stein. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this movie is better (not having seen the former) but I don't think it will be very popular. Actually, I'm seeing now that it was only released into 111 theaters which means it probably won't have a chance to be very popular, which is—well, it's probably sensible from a business perspective. This story really inverts some common and very popular movie tropes, similar to Brightburn, which had much bigger names attached and got a much wider release and (I imagine) was a lot less challenging. As I said early on: There's a whole lot of murder in this movie and you really end up understanding all of it. That makes a man uncomfortable. And most people don't like to be uncomfortable.
I hate it when they pretend to be asleep so you have to carry them out of their burning room
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 07:58 PM (mitVr)
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (t2Lmw)
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Charles the Simple at September 21, 2019 07:59 PM (t2Lmw)
Posted by: Charles the Simple
They went to Area 51 to bail out James Monroe.
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:01 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 08:01 PM (HCqAo)
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:02 PM (mitVr)
Posted by: Michael the Texan at September 21, 2019 08:03 PM (nvMvs)
None of that cut-rate Robusto or boring Arabica beans.
Posted by: ʎoſ ƃuᴉ,Ⅎ ɟo pɹᴉq ǝnlq at September 21, 2019 08:04 PM (lD3vL)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:05 PM (j7i25)
I've been wanting to share, although this may already be known to most of you:
I found out a few weeks ago, there's gonna be a sequel to The Shining, called Doctor Sleep.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:05 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 08:06 PM (HCqAo)
I hate kids in movies, especially Spielberg kids -- they are extra annoying.
Is this a Spielburg movie?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (j7i25)
qdpsteve...Yeah, I knew about Doctor Sleep. I feel like it will be terrible but I'm not really the audience.
Posted by: moviegique at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (CcUfv)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (j7i25)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (mitVr)
Posted by: Puddleglum
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I'm a born and bred Tarheel, but Appalachian State dusting UNC today was most amusing.
Michigan is still nursing its wound.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (CDGwz)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:08 PM (L2ZTs)
Is this a Spielburg movie?
Posted by: Soothsayer,
Aww, they didn't throw the eggs at yer house; that was ET.
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:09 PM (arJlL)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:09 PM (L2ZTs)
I admit I wanna see it.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:10 PM (L2ZTs)
The movie has a great disclaimer. Paraphrasing, this is more-or-less a true story but we invented people and incidents out of thin air. I was thinking the NYT ought to run a similar disclaimer.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 08:10 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:11 PM (L2ZTs)
Worse, The Shining is a classic. Sequels to classics are dubious at best.
Posted by: moviegique at September 21, 2019 08:11 PM (CcUfv)
And then there are always the completely idiotic reviews, like the reviewer who said this movie was awful because it was RAYCISS!!! because their were "people of color" who played characters she thought were bad guys.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:11 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Weasel
Careful with that stuff.
The next thing ya know, "You know Who" will smooch ya.
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (arJlL)
Yeah, it's Robert Zemeckis' latest flick. It got horrible reviews.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: RI Red at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (tDzWD)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 08:13 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:13 PM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Weasel
Careful with that stuff.
The next thing ya know, "You know Who" will smooch ya.
Posted by: JT at September 21, 2019 08:12 PM (arJlL)
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Oh! Right!
Posted by: Weasel at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (MVjcR)
Hunter Biden, son of then Vice President "Gropey" Joe Biden, is appointed to the board of a company in the Ukraine working in an area where the young Mr. Biden has no obvious expertise.
The Ukrainian authorities launch an investigation into the appointment, sensing that it may not have entirely been on the up-and-up
The elder Mr. Biden then uses his influence - as Vice President of the United Fucking States - to get the Ukranian authorities, who are desperate for better relations with the west in general and the US in particular, to fire the prosecutor investigating the young Mr. Biden's appointment. Gropey then goes around bragging about precisely "using his influence" to get the prosecutor fired, on tape.
Much later, authorities in the Ukraine reopen the investigation into the younger Mr. Biden's appointment, but are finding their efforts are being "slowed" by "external influences".
But this is somehow a story about... Trump?
Yeah, bullshit.
Posted by: DocJ at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (dd+oa)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (j7i25)
Also, why is there a federal agent, usually female, who is there to set it all right and kill everyone while looking hot instead of a 250 pound bull dyke like I see in every federal building I have ever visited.
And speaking of "Killer Joe", the Rocky Fellers rocked that song. Filipino family if I remember right.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: DocJ at September 21, 2019 08:15 PM (dd+oa)
, currently to be found on YouTube
A weepy polemic about neglected slum kids. The location shots of NYC slums are awesome! The depiction of dysfunctional black family life rings true: absent father, whore mother and live-in boyfriend going out to party while neglecting an infant, and grandma raising the kids. Some things never change.
The voiceover is by a doctor, who spouts lame sociological excuses for one boy's plight. To give just a single example, the grandma drops off the kid at the school. The boy watches until grandma is out of sight, then he ditches, and walks the slums. The doctor then complains that now the kid has "nothing to do," and is suffering social isolation as horrible as "solitary confinement."
Well, actually, the kid DOES have "something to do," which is to attend school, but he refuses. If he was sitting in the classroom where he belonged, he would no longer be in social isolation either. I came from a dysfunctional, broken, alcoholic family myself, but I never ditched school, and I didn't need an army of social workers to set me on a better path like this kid does. So much for sociology.
What you see in this "documentary" is the promotion of terribly wrong ideas, these among the many misconceptions that soon led to the government's creation of the tragic Culture of Dependency among America's underclass black people. This sappy sentimentality got the movie two Oscar nominations.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:15 PM (mk9aG)
Amazon also has the original for $.99. I've seen that a whole lot, but not recently, so I am now down the rabbit hole, getting ready to watch the original and compare the two.
Already have some opinions which character portrayals are better, but need to revisit the original to be sure.
Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 08:16 PM (RfzVr)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:14 PM (j7i25)
It certainly did not age well. It looked "old" by the latter half of the decade it was filmed in.
Posted by: DocJ at September 21, 2019 08:17 PM (dd+oa)
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2019 08:18 PM (5v5Zx)
But this time, for the first time, I got a strong impression of what Kurosawa intended to be the *true* answer, or at least as close as he would get. There are several elements of the murder, and when you listen to the witnesses, on these elements usually 3 agree and one says something different, although this arrangement differs on each element.
BUT if you look at the elements on which 3 out of 4 agree, you can put together a believable narrative of how the murder played out, and what part they each played in it. In my mind, that's what I think Kurosawa intended.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:19 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 08:20 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: adobe nuan I walk like walter brennan kenobe at September 21, 2019 08:22 PM (BGZO0)
Posted by: Laurenz
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You have an eye for great parallels!
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 08:23 PM (Y4EXg)
like "edge of tomorrow"?
which i'm watching right now, and it's the perfect movie of a video game, because it plays out like playing a video game where each time you lose you tart over, understand the fixes and get to the next level, etc., etc.
(full disclosure: i just wanted to mention "edge of tomorrow" is like playing a video game.)
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (Pg+x7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqy4xcXgtxM
FIRST FLOOR DUNGEON
Assorted simple tortures.
Molten lead, chopping blocks
And hot boiling oil.
SECOND FLOOR DUNGEON
Jewelry department.
Leg chains, ankle chains,
Neck chains, wrist chains, thumb screws
And nooses of the very finest rope.
BASEMENT DUNGEON--
EVERYBODY OUT.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:24 PM (2DOZq)
Yeah, it's Robert Zemeckis' latest flick. It got horrible reviews.
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Yes. Definitely weird.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 08:26 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Laurenz
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You have an eye for great parallels!
Posted by: Tonypete at September 21, 2019 08:23 PM (Y4EXg)
And the movie they're in together "Support your local Sheriff" is hilarious, and both of them play great comic parts in it.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:26 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:27 PM (j7i25)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:27 PM (j7i25)
But he was good with Hall.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:28 PM (V2Yro)
Heh , I was just explaining that to the twenty something gaming son of one of my friends about one of the first first person arcade game. Dragon's Lair . Anyone remember that game?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:29 PM (2DOZq)
Just got back from seeing the Downton Abbey movie (the wife wanted to go). There really wasn't much of a story except the king and queen were visiting. It was basically a Christmas special with homo stuff thrown it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 08:30 PM (WBgvd)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 08:31 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 08:32 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:32 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: A dude in MI at September 21, 2019 08:33 PM (WhTSP)
It was basically a Christmas special with homo stuff thrown it.
Posted by: TheQuietMan
All Christmas specials will from now on.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 08:33 PM (aKsyK)
They don't like it up 'em, sir. - Lance Corporal Jones
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2019 08:34 PM (5v5Zx)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2
At the time it seemed amazing. The graphics still hold up today in a cartoon level standard. What I remember the most it cost twice as much to play.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:34 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:27 PM (j7i25)
Sgt Big Toe!
Posted by: Count de Monet at September 21, 2019 08:36 PM (5v5Zx)
but no, i never played dragon's lair.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 08:37 PM (Pg+x7)
Is this a Spielburg movie?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM (j7i25)
Hear, hear. Even as a *kid*, I hated kids in movies. One yuuuuge exception is "Time Bandits" which I've always loved.
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)
https://tinyurl.com/yxodbkxy
Cain Mutiny
Breaker Morant
Master and Commander
Black Hawk Down
FMJ
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 08:40 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)
How can you not like The Cowboys?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:41 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (j7i25)
Saw Bill Murray's The Dead Don't Die. Meh. Steve Buscemi plays a jerk who wears a red hat that says "Make America White Again". And the dead rise because of fracking. One star.
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (j7i25)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (j7i25)
Posted by: AltonJackson at September 21, 2019 08:43 PM (hlleo)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik
A Lil Blutarski hooked me up with his Criterian account and we watched Time Bandits just today.
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:44 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:42 PM (VNfwt)
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Agree. Talk about bait and switch! I was jazzed when I saw the cast, but what a disappointment.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:44 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (kQs4Y)
The Cooler
And another gambling movie that I think is underrated is The Gambler with Mark Wahlberg .
This is also a movie where I think the remake is better than the original ( James Caan)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (VNfwt)
I loathed Goonies. Stil can't watch it.
Posted by: Pug Mahon, Not Paying Attention at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (0ZAYo)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)
Yup....I liked "Time Bandits". Fun movie with so much in it and quite entertaining.
The old fart that played the Supreme Being was hilarious.
"Well, of course. I am the Supreme Being, I'm not entirely dim..."
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (Z+IKu)
All the graphics and sounds were on a Laserdisc player inside the cabinet.
Play chapter 1. If the player hits "attack", play chapter 2. If the player hits "left" to dodge, play chapter 3. etc.
So, comparing it to games of today, it was a game consisting of nothing but cut scenes, with no actual "gameplay."
Posted by: mikeski at September 21, 2019 08:47 PM (P1f+c)
**********
Eddie Murphy made "trim" a thing...for a few years anyway.
Posted by: Granddork at September 21, 2019 08:48 PM (kR3UB)
And then went to the Lochiel Brewery in East Mesa, and had some craft beer, and saw a pipe band perform. Cool!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 21, 2019 08:49 PM (jEgzt)
Dr. Sleep, the book, is a fairly decent follow-on to The Shining. But, as you note, with King's involvement, the odds of turddom are very high.
On that note, King has his hands on the tiller for the remake of The Stand and I guarantee it'll suck. He's already selected Whoopi Goldberg for the Mother Abigail role.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 08:50 PM (7s3Gx)
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 08:50 PM (UUkQp)
For the movie, that is...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 08:51 PM (7s3Gx)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:51 PM (mk9aG)
I know Grace Park from her role in the really good TV show "a million little things". Which is primarily about dealing with suicide, but also deals with a lot of other heavy issues as well. Park's character has to deal with her husband's infidelity.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2019 08:53 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:51 PM (mk9aG
I think Paper Moon was the best performance by a kid. Tatum O'Neal should have stayed a kid.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 08:53 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Rusty Nail at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (Dp5Kd)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (kQs4Y)
"Well, of course. I am the Supreme Being, I'm not entirely dim..."
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:46 PM (Z+IKu)
Ralph Richardson
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (WBgvd)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 08:55 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 08:55 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 08:55 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:56 PM (mk9aG)
I find it disconcerting that Henry Fonda looks so young.
Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 08:56 PM (RfzVr)
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:56 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Elizabeth Taylor at September 21, 2019 08:57 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 08:58 PM (mk9aG)
Freaks might be something I would like
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (ZCEU2)
In 2019, kids with smartphones can make short movies with good special effects, so, yeah, a big budget sci-fi studio picture better look amazing.
For the record, I liked the movie better than my brother did.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (PNBod)
Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (RfzVr)
Is this a Spielburg movie?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 08:07 PM
It's hit or miss for me. I so hate the kids in the Tom Cruise "War of the Worlds" movie, that I can't even watch it anymore. I watched it once and they annoyed the hell out of me to the point I was yelling at the screen for them to STFU and hoping they would get killed. (I also felt the same way about the daughter in "Taken" who was an absolute ungrateful, self-centered brat.) I tried watching it again one time, because I remember liking the movie other than them but... nope. Couldn't do it.
But then there's a movie like "Super 8" that I enjoyed, even though it's mostly focused on the kids.
For me, so long as the kids aren't portrayed as whiney-ass little brats or holier-than-thou-insufferable-assholes-smarter-than-loser-parents, I can deal with kids in movies.
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (Do5/p)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 08:54 PM (WBgvd)
That's him!....Thanks Q Man.
He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: antisocial justice beatnik at September 21, 2019 08:39 PM (DTX3h)
Time bandits has a surprising amount of depth to it, for more than you'd expect from what could have been a silly python movie.
such as when the little boy demands of God, "But why does there have to be Evil???"
and God says "Well my, you really ARE a smart little boy, aren't you? Well, you know, free will and all that." Then God just walks off - and that's all the answer you're ever gonna get, kid.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:00 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:00 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (a4EWo)
On that note, King has his hands on the tiller for the remake of The Stand and I guarantee it'll suck. He's already selected Whoopi Goldberg for the Mother Abigail role.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy
Mother Abigail The Next Generation
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (aKsyK)
the trailer is very odd, and apparently the whole thing is built around music by Carpenter Brut.
I can only hope the plot is as good as the trailer
https://youtu.be/qisX76lABk0
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 09:01 PM (xG/b0)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:02 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz
She was in a particularly bad episode of the Twilight Zone. They dubbed her Southern accent.
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 09:02 PM (VNfwt)
thanks, whoever.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 21, 2019 09:02 PM (Pg+x7)
I saw Ad Astra yesterday with my brother. I won't spoil it, but at the end, my brother said, "Well, it had really nice landscapes."
In 2019, kids with smartphones can make short movies with good special effects, so, yeah, a big budget sci-fi studio picture better look amazing.
For the record, I liked the movie better than my brother did.
Posted by: Pete in Texas
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Eesh. I'm going to see it tonight. I like going to movies.
I saw The Goldfinch last week. Don't waste your time. Whether you've read the book or not, it's awful.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 09:03 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:03 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Kindltot at September 21, 2019 09:03 PM (xG/b0)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:00 PM (SfYbS)
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I'm tempted to see it for the same reason I wanted to see "Peppermint", because I was told I shouldn't.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:04 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:04 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 21, 2019 09:04 PM (+y/Ru)
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 21, 2019 08:59 PM (Z+IKu)
He was in Doctor Zhivago and Khartoum. He had a great voice and delivery
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:05 PM (WBgvd)
But that will make 3 films I've seen in theaters in one year (John Wick 3, Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Midway). A record for at least 20 years.
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 09:06 PM (VNfwt)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (ZCEU2)
I haven't been to a movie in a few years. Having to sit through 15 minutes of trailers makes you realize the utter garbage that Hollywood is shitting out
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (WBgvd)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (V2Yro)
Unfortunately Jeffy B at Amazon was up to his old tricks again. For the third time in a month, I got a used blu-ray instead of the new one I ordered.
Sent it back, bought another (cheaper!) new copy from on of the Amazon 'marketplace sellers,' and spent my Amazon credit on a CD of Diana Ross' greatest hits (please don't judge me).
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (ZCEU2)
I was hoping that Paul Scofield would put a bullet in his commie head
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:08 PM (WBgvd)
From what I've read it was all downhill after she did Lady Sings The Blues. I've seen wildly mixed reviews of Mahogany and The Wiz for years online.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:09 PM (L2ZTs)
He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
He was "The Boss" who was defeated by Raymond Massey's airmen who didn't approve of privately owned airplanes or independent states.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:09 PM (aKsyK)
To each his own I guess but, the dark side, they can have it.
Posted by: teej at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (EVeeU)
Posted by: Wednesday Thursburgday at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (Tnijr)
Does anyone think a decent movie could be made that's a *prequel* of Full Metal Jacket, about Sgt Hartman?
Only problem is, Stanley's not here any more and Gustav Hasford would probably have to be involved.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:11 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:11 PM (lfmil)
Talk about "shocking the squares." Good grief.
If Tod were still around, Insane Clown Posse would have hired him to make a few music videos for them...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:11 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (bFYPm)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: Beto, how come no one is eating my guacamole? at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (a4EWo)
i was doing ok until the commander of the mars base tells brad pitt "i can get you to the rocket. after that, you're on your own". because everybody knows it's totally possible to climb up between the booster engines and open the hatch on that bulkhead they're attached to so you can enter the spaceship.
yeah. after that i no longer cared what happened.
there was also a bit of dark star space surfing. no beach ball aliens, though.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (kf5Ci)
Posted by: Beto, how come no one is eating my guacamole? at September 21, 2019 09:12 PM (a4EWo)
Studio decided to shelve it.
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (lfmil)
I've been hearing the whole movie is basically a condemnation of "toxic masculinity."
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Anachronda
What about SS lesbians from Mars?
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (lfmil)
Having said that... I almost always go to matinees during the week. :-)
That might have something to do with it...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (L2ZTs)
It's a perfect metaphor for the way the people they are being murdered by climate change and how a child must stop it before she gets to live to 29 years old.
Posted by: Wednesday Thursburgday at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (Tnijr)
Does anyone think a decent movie could be made that's a *prequel* of Full Metal Jacket, about Sgt Hartman?
Only problem is, Stanley's not here any more and Gustav Hasford would probably have to be involved.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:10 PM (L2ZTs)
You just gave me a great idea. The time frame of "The Shining" is kinda hazy, it could have taken place earlier in the century.
So Danny grows up, and in order to deal with the trauma of his youth, he turns into Gunnery Sergeant Hartman. Waddya think???
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: rgallego98 at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (meoYc)
Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2019 09:14 PM (kf5Ci)
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Dark Star is a heartbreaking work of staggering genius.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (ZCEU2)
He was a good actor. I think he was in that H G Wells movie "Things to Come" as a fur wearing warlord.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy
He was "The Boss" who was defeated by Raymond Massey's airmen who
didn't approve of privately owned airplanes or independent states.
don't forget the giant sight on the end of the barrel of the big gun that was going to shoot them to the moon. so they could properly target it.
Posted by: Anachronda at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (kf5Ci)
Doctor Sleep's main character/hero is Danny, actually...
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (L2ZTs)
Speaking of Diana Ross, has she ever acted in a really good movie?
She was good in Star Trek with Billy Dee Williams.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (j7i25)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)
With riding crops and thigh high boots.
Shiny black leather boots.
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:17 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:18 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:18 PM (kQs4Y
Diana Ross's daughter is the mom in Blackish.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (2DOZq)
She was good in Star Trek with Billy Dee Williams.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (j7i25)
naw, she was the Diva in 5th Element.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)
With riding crops and thigh high boots.
Shiny black leather boots.
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:16 PM (lfmil)
Can we get Roger Debris to direct it?
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (WBgvd)
I've heard that she was already difficult (arrogant, smug, condescending) to deal with, but that Ross became IMPOSSIBLE after Lady Sings The Blues, because it was her first-ever acting role... and she got nominated for an Oscar.
Oh man. I would not want to have had to deal with her at all in the mid-1970s.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:19 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:15 PM (SfYbS)
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There's a funny novel called "Gestapo Mars" by Victor Gischler if you're into smutty sci fi alt history.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:20 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:20 PM (aKsyK)
Diana Ross's daughter is the mom in Blackish.
Isn't that Janet Jackson from Good Times?
Or Mrs Cosby??
Or Mrs Cosby's sister who was on Fame?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Jewells45 at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (dUJdY)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (lfmil)
whatever became of Irene Cara?
Oh yeah.
Now I'm thinking of that music video with the girl in leggins who splashes a bucket of water on herself.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: Eromero at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (UUkQp)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:23 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:21 PM (L2ZTs)
Her best movie was DC Cab. One of the funniest movies I had seen at the time. Don't know how it's held up.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:24 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:24 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:22 PM (kQs4Y)
Shhh, if the Navy hears of that they will all our defense spending.
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:24 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:25 PM (ZCEU2)
I heard that the child actors in TKAM were not "professional" actors. They were actually residents of the town in which it was filmed.
Posted by: Grannymimi at September 21, 2019 09:25 PM (u5LFV)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta
Adm. Krystal and First Mate Goldberg could never find it.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:26 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:27 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (a4EWo)
Posted by: SMH at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (RU4sa)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:29 PM (L2ZTs)
https://tinyurl.com/yxusj3f6
Robert Eggars directed "The VVitch".
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:30 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)
in times past that would have warranted a joke but it's all gotten so tiresome.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (V2Yro)
OMG. It was alternately cringeworthy and hilarious, even at the time it was a hit.
I can imagine if they brought it back today:
"This man has lived on Planet Earth since 1967, yet never once ever stepped foot inside a Starbucks! THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Blutarski the Goy at September 21, 2019 08:45 PM (VNfwt)
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Much prefer the version with Tony Shalhoub. Though, to be fair, the original is basically a gimmick movie.
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 09:32 PM (CAJOC)
I might have enjoyed "Air Strike" (Chinese movie) more if it wasn't dubbed, but with English audio, the dialog is ten times sillier and lamer.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:33 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:33 PM (ZCEU2)
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 21, 2019 09:34 PM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 21, 2019 09:28 PM (aKsyK)
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No, sir, I did not.
If Ace or any of you barstards had been in the audience posing as a concerned citizen with questions, I might have tuned in.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:34 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:34 PM (L2ZTs)
News report from 2026: "President Buttigieg and First Husband Chasten visited an elementary school today. They took turns reading 'Heather Has Two Daddies' to eager third-graders."
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:35 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: Jack Meoff at September 21, 2019 09:35 PM (UFLLM)
Anyone ever the notice the lady on the National Flooring Direct tv ads?
She has a square face, but pretty.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (Jy6ww)
Turned out it was often pre-empted because Evel had done his stunt, something went horrible wrong, and paramedics were busy scooping all 19 pieces of him up off the pavement so they could put him together again. :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (L2ZTs)
I heard that the child actors in TKAM were not "professional" actors. They were actually residents of the town in which it was filmed.
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The TCM guy said they were amateurs from AL, but not that they were residents of the little town. That was their first movie role.
It was on this afternoon- saw the last 15 mins. Robert Duvall was great, even then.
Posted by: Sal at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (2qCi9)
As a matter of story-structure, yeah. Also EH suffered from re-using scenes already mooted in The Shining, Alien, and (at the end) Hellraiser 3. (Or was it 4.)
I think Event Horizon works better, though, on account we can actually hear what the actors are saying. Also there was more humour. I can say 'humour' because most of the actors were Brits.
Lastly, Event Horizon is (so far) the only Warhammer 40000 prequel movie we got.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 09:36 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta
I was the guy dressed as the biker from the Village People asking Blotto what his fursona is.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:37 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:37 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (KP5rU)
Take those lobsters off the course, put some street worthy cars on, and they'll get their audience back.
Oh, yeah, shit can sjw.
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (lfmil)
First movie I ever saw Robert Duvall in.
Posted by: Grannymimi at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (u5LFV)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (CAJOC)
Posted by: Quivering mound of love pudding at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (UFLLM)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (KP5rU)
Start credit card dispute NOW! Don't wait.
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:39 PM (mk9aG)
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Here it is:
https://tinyurl.com/ya7umx4m
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 21, 2019 09:39 PM (kQs4Y)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:40 PM (Jy6ww)
Hey, that's the Wicked Witch of the West!
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:40 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 09:42 PM (lfmil)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:42 PM (HCqAo)
Joe Biden got defensive during an LGBTQ forum in Iowa, calling the moderator 'a real sweetheart' as they walked offstage
Apparently Joe's thought crime was saying that Mike Pence is a decent guy and the "moderator" went after him for that and other thought crimes in his past. There's going to be another queer forum in October on CNN.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (WBgvd)
Is Scrappy Doo in this movie?
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
Gene Hackman
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (HCqAo)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (2DOZq)
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I just saw him playing Boo Radley In To Kill A Mockingbird. He had no lines.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (ZYB2s)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:44 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:07 PM (ZCEU2)
From watching him as Col. Thaddeus Gearhart in The Hallelujah Trail, I would have thought he was a conservative. Anyway, he was funny as hell.
Posted by: HTL at September 21, 2019 09:44 PM (SQ8u5)
Posted by: Pig to man
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If 'can' is the operative word, then he's certainly a good choice.
As folk here have pointed out, Fred MacMurray was capable of that also.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (xSo9G)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (a4EWo)
Dick Powell transformed himself from the cheery clean-cut kid in the Golddiggers movies of 1930s into the hard-boiled detective in the 1940s noirs. It's scary how much he changed!
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (mk9aG)
Very good action flick. Excellent acting: particularly by Stallone. Well-directed elegiac tone.
Bad guys die horribly. Rambo is against brutal Mexican gang members and respond with equal or greater violence.
I admire Stallone as a script writer. He's created memorable characters and is willing to let them change through the years. And complete a life story arc. Very few actors or writers have accomplished this in the Hollywood world.
Anyway, if you like the character of Rambo, you will enjoy this movie.
Check it out.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 21, 2019 09:47 PM (pqyXj)
just cancel the whole order and start over again with someone else.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (L2ZTs)
It was a good deal though. I'm guessing too good to be true.
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:47 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (HCqAo)
I guess you can make that argument but I'm trying to think of a bad guy role other Lex Luther. The Firm?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (2DOZq)
It was great fun. I thought the movie was quite scary but always had a terrific time.
Posted by: Granddork at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (kR3UB)
OMG. It was alternately cringeworthy and hilarious, even at the time it was a hit.
I can imagine if they brought it back today:
"This man has lived on Planet Earth since 1967, yet never once ever stepped foot inside a Starbucks! THAT'S INCREDIBLE!!!" :-P
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:31 PM (L2ZTs)
Talk about a blast from the past...
(This gives me the urge to blast Black Flag's "TV Party".)
Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (bFYPm)
I saw it 40-45 years ago, but I was still surprised how good it is, & how well it holds up. Won Best Picture, so I guess I should've expected that it would still impress.
Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (Cssks)
Richard Crenna was great in First Blood.
btw, there was someone here who used to do a great Walter Brennan impression.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:43 PM (HCqAo)
I guess you can make that argument but I'm trying to think of a bad guy role other Lex Luther. The Firm?
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
Unforgiven
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (HCqAo)
Huh.
This sounds interesting.
That never happens.
I won't go to a theater for it, but I will rent it instead of stealing it, and purchase it if it's as interesting as it sounds.
Now, I don't know whether the movie is good, or if it's just TJM's salesmanship, but I never feel moved to watch the stuff H'wood puts out, so someone is doing their job
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (JY0JC)
Dick Powell transformed himself from the cheery clean-cut kid in the
Golddiggers movies of 1930s into the hard-boiled detective in the 1940s
noirs. It's scary how much he changed!
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:46 PM (mk9aG)
Basil Rathbone played a bad guy a lot of movies during the same period that he portrayed Sherlock Holmes. Robin Hood - bad guy, Zorro - bad guy
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (WBgvd)
If we are going back that far , admittedly I forgot about Fred McMurray.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:41 PM (2DOZq)
Check out Neal McDonough who played Buck Compton in Band of Brothers. Great charismatic guy and you really rooted for him especially when he went nutso. Then he shows up on Justified and plays the creepiest asshole.
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:48 PM
Crimson Tide?
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (rBtIz)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
You could argue he was the "bad guy" in Crimson Tide.
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (SfYbS)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (QSzhg)
I remember it was quite stark the first time I saw Fred MacMurray play a heavy. What, Steve Douglas is mean?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:51 PM (Cssks)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: No One of Consequence at September 21, 2019 09:38 PM (CAJOC)
It was nice but really didn't advance the story or characters much. Could have done without the queer stuff. Maggie Smith was a sharp as ever
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (WBgvd)
Posted by: Prince Ludwig the Deplorable at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (rBtIz)
I remember it was quite stark the first time I saw Fred MacMurray play a heavy. What, Steve Douglas is mean?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:50 PM (f1Vqw)
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Flubber was a Class I biotoxin.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (ZYB2s)
And the voice of Nuclear Man in Superman 4. The man has range.
Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 21, 2019 09:52 PM (LxTcq)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: Skip at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (ZCEU2)
I was watching Beverly Hillbillies this morning and at the end the credits read "Directed by Dick Crenna."
Turns out that's Richard Crenna, who directed a lot of tv epsiodes of various tv shows.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (Jy6ww)
What I loved about the finale of Downton was the Happily Ever After ending.
Tell me, will the movie ruin that for me?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (mk9aG)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 21, 2019 09:54 PM (KP5rU)
Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (Cssks)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (2DOZq)
Posted by: cfo mom at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (RfzVr)
Turns out that's Richard Crenna, who directed a lot of tv epsiodes of various tv shows.
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (Jy6ww)
he was Little Luke in "The Real McCoys" with Walter Brennan as pa or grand pa.
Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 09:55 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:56 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (HCqAo)
Was he though?
In a movie with no good guys, yes.
Posted by: Puddleglum at September 21, 2019 09:56 PM (HCqAo)
Fred Mac Murray drove William Frawley crazy after hiring him onto My Three Sons, because Murray insisted all his scenes for the whole season be shot first, so he could tour the country golfing ASAP. So all the scenes in every episode were shot way out of order.
Frawley hated never knowing what was going on around the scenes he shot.
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:56 PM (Jy6ww)
That was a long time ago.
Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Soothsayer, very senile at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (Jy6ww)
Posted by: mnw at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (Cssks)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (mk9aG)
Tell me, will the movie ruin that for me?
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:53 PM (f1Vqw)
No it won't. More people find love including the bummer butler. It leaves it off where another movie could be made
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:58 PM (WBgvd)
Dick Crenna played Walter, a nasal voiced annoying teen in "Our Miss Brooks" (Eve Arden and Mr. Moony starring).
It was a hoot to see him doing that voice.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 09:58 PM (f1Vqw)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (mk9aG)
Jimmy Cagney could handle both heroes and heavies. Doesn't get much more villainous than "White Heat."
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (mk9aG)
And he was a song and dance man too. Quite a talented man
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (WBgvd)
Check out who played the heavy in the 1964 version of The Killers, with Lee Marvin. :-)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (L2ZTs)
Posted by: qdpsteve at September 21, 2019 09:57 PM (L2ZTs)
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Probably explains the heart attack that killed him on Hollywood and Ivar in front of the Knickerbocker Hotel
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at September 21, 2019 10:00 PM (ZYB2s)
Posted by: DR.WTF at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Quivering mound of love pudding at September 21, 2019 10:01 PM (A/axl)
Posted by: Anna Puma at September 21, 2019 10:02 PM (QSzhg)
Not sure if it's true, but I just read Leslie Uggams was in Deadpool...
Posted by: qdpsteve
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She was, and she was fun.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 21, 2019 10:02 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 09:59 PM (mk9aG)
She thought he was too old to play her husband and I think he was drunk a lot a stunk of booze.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 21, 2019 10:03 PM (WBgvd)
Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 21, 2019 10:04 PM (mk9aG)
Then he shows up on Justified and plays the creepiest asshole.
See also his role as Jack Horton in RED 2.
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at September 21, 2019 10:06 PM (7s3Gx)
Yeah, Ethel hated Fred's guts. Absolutely despised him. They were thinking about doing a Fred and Ethel spin-off when I Love Lucy wound down, but Vivian Vance turned it down flat because she didn't want to be around William Frawley.
She was really a glamorous sort, and didn't like being frumped up to play Ethel.
William Frawley was also a drunk, and notorious for causing problems. Desi wanted him, but they put something in his contract that said show up drunk for work once, and you're gone. Also, anytime you say you're sick, you'd better have a doctor's note, or you're gone there as well.
Posted by: publius, Rascally Rapscallion of a Poperin Pear at September 21, 2019 10:06 PM (f1Vqw)
I wouldn't exactly say it condemns Toxic Masculinity. It does condemn one man who goes all Colonel Kurtz berserk and murders his crew.
I was more upset that Brad Pitt's character was just one step removed from a comic book superhero. SPOILER ALERT: Pitt saves humanity, survives, and reconciles with his wife, now that he's in touch with his feelings. I would have preferred doing only the first, would have accepted just the first two, but all three is a bit too much for my tastes.
Posted by: Pete in Texas at September 21, 2019 10:09 PM (Vsull)
That's why we have TJM and MovieGique to cull them out for us.
Posted by: Laurenz - that's my movie name at September 21, 2019 10:09 PM (lfmil)
was watching an oldish French movie Brotherhood of Wolves (2001) - it's about the Beast of Gauvedon
odd... gothic but not supernatural
the guy who was the funny kung fu bad guy in John Wick 3 was in it
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (G546f)
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 21, 2019 10:11 PM (ykYG2)
Posted by: Quilp at September 21, 2019 11:26 PM (Bf3hj)
Posted by: bradc at September 21, 2019 11:49 PM (AnZBw)
Posted by: bradc at September 21, 2019 11:52 PM (AnZBw)
You're right, that's why I labeled this movie "Freaks (2019)" and not just "Freaks" because the Boy and I had that very discussion.
I say, "I'm going to go see 'Freaks', you wanna come?"
He says, "The classic one? I'm in!"
I say, "No, it's that movie we saw that trailer for..."
He says, "Oh, yeah, I guess so."
Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2019 12:04 AM (CcUfv)
James Cagney is amazing. His turn in "Love Me or Leave Me" is just an astounding (Oscar nominated) performance. Outshines Doris Day.
He's a gangster and a bully but he loves Ruth Etting and is also exasperated by her because she's too good for him. Just great.
Posted by: moviegique at September 22, 2019 12:07 AM (CcUfv)
Posted by: ... at September 21, 2019 09:49 PM (uEb
Way late to the thread, but...
irl, Neal McDonough is a conservative Roman Catholic. Will not accept a part if the character has to even so much kiss a woman, let alone have sex.
But then, as you noted, he has no problem playing a creepy psychotic asshole on Justified.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 01:03 AM (MH+aB)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 22, 2019 01:25 AM (FiUMj)
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