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Sunday Morning Book Thread 09-22-2019

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National Library, Helsinki, Finland


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), crackpots, crockpots, despots, tosspots, sexpots, and stinkpots. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, spending way too much money on books, writing books, and publishing books by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which I would totally wear to Andy Warhol's barbecue.



Pic Note

Today's library is a repeat from 2017, but I thought it worth revisiting because I found some better pics. For example, this one. That ceiling is spectacular.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

HAPPEN, MISHAP and HAPHAZARD all derive from ‘hap’—an old word for chance or fortune, borrowed into English from Old Norse sometime in the 12th century. ‘Hap’ is also the origin of HAPPY, which originally referred to people or events that appeared to be blessed with good fortune.

Mayhap he's right. Perhaps.


And speaking of words, 'ette Miley the Duchess e-mailed in a bleg a couple three days ago:

Some time ago, there was a word that appeared on the book thread. I can't for the life of me remember it, but it's a very useful word that means someone who gets outraged on behalf of someone else who has not asked for support. It may be a verb, the act of doing this. May have been of French origin. I was hoping you might recall it.

Also, a decade ago, my stepdaughter emailed a word to me that was especially delightful. It means "requited love." I've completely forgotten what it was, and so has she. I've bingled without any luck. Any idea what it is?

My memory is so poor, I am drawing a complete blank on the first one. And on the second, I Googled for the question 'what is the opposite of unrequited love' and 'synonyms for requited love', but I doubt any of the results were the word she's looking for. So I'm hoping the Horde can help out here.




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The 1519 Project

Last months, the progressive advocates masquerading as journalists announced a new program to try to drag Democrats across the finish line ahead of the Republicans in 2020. It's called the 1619 Project, and what it does is attempt to rewrite history to portray slavery is pretty much a white-on-black affair that was invented on U.S. soil in 1619, rather than endemic to almost every human culture that has ever existed. Therefore, we're all a bunch of white supremacist scum, especially Donald Trump, so vote for all of the Democrats in 2020. Because racism.

Here is an excellent article that pretty much blows the tendentious history promulgated by the 1619 Project to smithereens. Also this one.

What you won't learn from the 1619 Project is that one of the things the Europeans did in the New World was to exterminate a cannabalistic, mass murdering cult, starting a century earlier, in 1519.

I'm talking about the Aztecs, of course, and whatever you think about Hernando Cortez, he did the world a favor by eliminating them as a regional threat. Personally, I believe that God frequently uses evil men to stop other men who are even more evil, so the end result is a net increase in human happiness:

Cortez will never satisfy a 21st century standard of human rights, and may not even be an exemplary leader. Nor did he set out to liberate anyone. Yet, regardless of his motives in Mexico, the outcome must be conceded: Cortez toppled a mass-murdering cult with the assistance of the oppressed.

God draws straight with crooked lines.

I've heard that in the final assault on Tenochtitlan, the Aztec capital, Cortez' forces constituted a tiny fraction of the assembled armies. It wasn't just some evil white guys murdering a bunch of brown people. The Aztecs were hated by pretty much everyone else in the region, and they wanted them gone as much as Cortez did.

You can read about Cortez in a book written in 1855, Hernando Cortez: Makers of History, available for free on Gutenberg. Also Amazon. And another moron mentioned The Memoirs of the Conquistador Bernal Diaz del Castillo, Written by Himself Containing a True and Full Account of the Discovery and Conquest of Mexico and New Spain (in 2 volumes), also available for free.

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Who Dis:

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Moron Recommendations

63 Reading Nothing Lost, by John Gregory Dunne, who wrote True Confessions. It's sort of a John Grisham courtroom novel, told from several viewpoints. One of his narrators, Max Cline (a self-described "queer Jew"), even mentions Grisham's novels at one point.

I was really bored by True Confessions -- maybe the movie with DeNiro was better -- but this is at least entertaining.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (4c+5M)

According to the Amazon blurb, Nothing Lost plots the course of:

A grisly racial murder in what news commentators insist on calling “the heartland.” A feeding frenzy of mass media and seamy politics. An illicit love affair with the potential to wreck lives. In his grandly inventive last novel, John Gregory Dunne orchestrated these elements into a symphony of American violence, chicanery, and sadness.In the aftermath of Edgar Parlance’s killing, the small prairie town of Regent becomes a destination for everyone from a sociopathic teenaged supermodel to an enigmatic attorney with secret familial links to the worlds of Hollywood and organized crime. Out of their manifold convergences, their jockeying for power, publicity or love, Nothing Lost creates a drama of magnificent scope and acidity.

I remember seeing the movie adaption of True Confessions when it first came out (1981?). I hated it, but now I think that was because I didn't really understand the story. It's not about the murder so much as it's about the relationship between the two brothers. Anyway, TC was inspired, at least in part, by the gruesome Black Dahlia murder case, which is one of Los Angeles' oldest unsolved murders.

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In my kid's High School English class, they were assigned the book "102 Minutes." Knowing the bent of public school instruction, I was leery and skeptical of what the book might conclude. In fact, it turned out to be a decent recounting of the unfolding tragedy-cum-murder, written very much in the form of the post-analysis investigations presented as a novel.

It pulled no punches about people still escaping the building having to dodge those poor unfortunates from above the flames who chose something besides a fiery death. I hadn't realized that there were so many....

Posted by: LCMS Rulz! at September 11, 2019 11:08 AM (/2X2F)

I can't imagine what it must be like to actually want to jump out of a building knowing you're going to die when you hit the pavement -- because if you don't, you'll be roasted alive.

102 Minutes: The Unforgettable Story of the Fight to Survive Inside the Twin Towers is history told by the eyewitnesses:

Of the millions of words written about this wrenching day, most were told from the outside looking in. New York Times reporters Jim Dwyer and Kevin Flynn draw on hundreds of interviews with rescuers and survivors, thousands of pages of oral histories, and countless phone, e-mail, and emergency radio transcripts to tell the story of September 11 from the inside looking out.

$11.99 on Kindle.

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60 I'm currently reading David Price's Love and Hate in Jamestown: John Smith, Pocahontas and the Start of a New Nation. I'm only about 5 chapters in, but so far, this has been an exceedingly page-turning book. It reads as an unbelievable action novel as it chronicles John Smith's 1606/1607 expedition to the New World, as commissioned by a London company. It's especially interesting the internal politics, if you will, of the various friendly and not-friendly tribes in the VA area. Indians were not at all "the earth belongs to everyone and no one owns it," peaceful go-alongs. They were vicious, barbaric and territorial. It's very interesting to read how Smith was trying to outthink them, as they were trying to outthink him on strategic matters. So far, it has been very intriguing.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 15, 2019 09:35 AM (JoUsr)

This story starts in 1606, when

...appproximately 105 British colonists sailed to America, seeking gold and a trade route to the Pacific. Instead, they found disease, hunger, and hostile natives. Ill prepared for such hardship, the men responded with incompetence and infighting; only the leadership of Captain John Smith averted doom for the first permanent English settlement in the New World.The Jamestown colony is one of the great survival stories of American history, and this book brings it fully to life for the first time. Drawing on extensive original documents, David A. Price paints intimate portraits of the major figures from the formidable monarch Chief Powhatan, to the resourceful but unpopular leader John Smith, to the spirited Pocahontas, who twice saved Smith’s life. He also gives a rare balanced view of relations between the settlers and the natives and debunks popular myths about the colony. This is a superb work of history, reminding us of the horrors and heroism that marked the dawning of our nation.

$13.99 on Kindle, but there are some used hardcover copies for as low as $5.18 and the shipping is free.

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Books By Morons

Moron author A.H. Lloyd discreetly pimped one of his own books in the thread last week (see below). It's his first novel, and it actually sounds kind of interesting:

For a more accessible version of Beowulf, allow me to suggest Battle Office Wolf, by yours truly.

Unlike other adaptations, this one is scrupulously true to the source material, though I do truncate the story somewhat by focusing the tale on Heorot.


I wrote it following the Seamus Haney verse translation (annotated edition) so there are references to Geats, Franks, etc. I think putting the story in a sci-fi/horror setting captures the original spirit of the tale and allows modern readers to better relate to the sense of fear and isolation the characters felt.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 15, 2019 10:11 AM (cfSRQ)

Amazon says:

Hart Station [see what he did there? -OM] was designed to be the galaxy’s premier research facility, an idyllic community focused on innovation and dedicated to improving humanity. Yet within days of becoming operational, its promise was destroyed. A series of grisly attacks has left the station’s survivors paralyzed with fear, trapped far from home and wondering who – or what – is methodically hunting them down. Just when hope is lost, when it seems their forlorn distress signal will never be answered, a ship will arrive to save them – a ship carrying Battle Officer Wolf [see what he did there? -OM].

Battle Officer Wolf is a bold retelling of the Beowulf epic. Inspired by the criticisms of legendary author and scholar J.R.R. Tolkien, Battle Officer Wolf brings readers a fresh perspective on the the elemental horror and shining heroism of this timeless story.

Considering that Battle Officer Wolf is only $2.99, why are you all not buying yourselves copies?

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Moron author Alexander Hellene has just come out with a new novel, the first in a new series. He tells me:

It’s a sword-and-planet [adventure] in the vein of Edgar Rice Burroughs and Jack Vance crossed with Thundercats and Masters of the Universe with a non-preachy faith-based element.

The Amazon blurb says:

They killed his father, oppress his people, and threaten them with extinction... and one of them is his best friend.

The Growlers rule their corner of the planet Yxakh with an iron fist, intent on driving the human refugees from their land. They almost did eight years ago, killing Garrett’s father in the process. Only their guns, and lots of them, keep the Growlers at bay. Now a young man, Garrett burns for revenge, but finds it hard to reconcile this hatred given that his best friend is a Growler youth named Ghryxa.

Desperate to cleanse his land of the invaders, the Growlers’ High Lord dispatches his trusted heir on a mission to acquire the humans’ superior weaponry. The Earthlings barely won the last war... but this time the High Lord will leave nothing up to chance.

The Last Ancestor: The Swordbringer Book 1 is available on Kindle for $3.99.


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'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle & Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

This homicide case featured aristocrats as far as the eye could see, between the Russians and the Spaniards—and Acton, of course, who was supposedly investigating the others but seemed a little too deferential, for Doyle’s taste. Why wasn’t her husband moving in on the killer? And why did she have the sense that she was standing on the outside, peering into a world where there were no laws and no explanations—only birthrights, forged in ancient blood.

The Kindle edition of Murder in the Blood ia $4.99. Also in paperback.

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Moron author Declan Finn is in the process of releasing a 3-part series, Too Secret Service:

Wayne Williams is a Secret Service agent sentenced to the outer darkness because his family pissed off the wrong president.

Catherine Miller is a CIA assassin who specializes in becoming anyone.

When terrorists threaten to nuke every spot on the President's world tour, they are both called in to handle the threat.

To stop World War Three, they must travel from Ireland to Rome to Israel. They will have to face terrorist gunmen, professional assassins and nuclear suicide bombers... and perhaps even a threat from within.

But first, they must survive each other.

The first installment of the series will be released on Sept. 24th. Part 2 will be released on Oct. 1st, followed by the third part on Oct. 8th.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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1 Good morning bibliophiles!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:01 AM (kQs4Y)

2 Finished re-reading the Heirs of Alexandria series by by Mercedes Lackey. And now re-reading the Acorna series by by Anne McCaffrey. I will probably only read the first two books and move on to something else.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

3 Tolle Lege

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:02 AM (ZCEU2)

4 Could not get the page to go to the bottom at first.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:02 AM (mpXpK)

5 Morning all!

Posted by: Muad'dib at September 22, 2019 09:03 AM (uDh3k)

6 Good morning fellow Book Threadists. I hope veryone had a great week of reading and book activity.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 09:05 AM (bmdz3)

7 Slaves to Intellectual Fashion: 1619 The New York Times doesn't care to know about history.

Neither does AOC or any Democrat for that matter.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:05 AM (mpXpK)

8 That ceiling is spectacular
Just slowly whittling at Napoleonic warfare With Eagles to Glory by John Gill

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:06 AM (ZCEU2)

9 The other funny (and yeah, I mean laughable) part of the 1619 bit is that there have been approx. 3,873 "1619 Projects" over the last few years.

It's a case of "OMG, Trump is making inroads into the black vote!!!!"

It'll be long forgotten by Nov of next year...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:06 AM (6qErC)

10 You could never Finnish that many books!

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (438dO)

11 Is that Keith Richards? I didn't know he could read.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (VNfwt)

12 Love and Hate in Jamestown: John Smith, Pocahontas and the Start of a New Nation.

I'll have see if my library has that. $14 for the Kindle is out of my price range.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:08 AM (mpXpK)

13 Currently reading George Marshall: Defender of the Republic by David Roll.

Marshall is such a towering figure in American history. He is particularly interesting to me due to ties to the Virginia Military Institute and his retirement home in Leesburg, Virginia.

Interestingly, I don't think many men get the opportunities he had these days. I suppose the closest in modern days would be Petraeus or Mattis. Actually, no. Neither managed to accomplish as much. I wonder if the world has changed so much that no single person has the chance to do so much without being pilloried on a regular basis for mistakes large and small.

Anyway, I highly recommend it.

Posted by: Rob at September 22, 2019 09:08 AM (jA8/d)

14 Just finished Joseph Wambaugh's "Finnegan's Week" on the Kindle. I hadn't read any of his stuff for years, but I found this to be laugh out loud funny with some great dialog and interesting characters.

Hoping to start on Levin's Press book this week, but...

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 22, 2019 09:09 AM (BiNEL)

15 Is that Keith Richards? I didn't know he could read.
Posted by: Blutarski at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (VNfwt)


Keef's pretty fucking smart and must have the physiology of a steam engine to not sound like a blithering idiot after massive drug ingestion like Ozzie.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:12 AM (y7DUB)

16 The library was the one place I knew had air conditioning in summer.

Posted by: San Franpsycho at September 22, 2019 09:13 AM (EZebt)

17 The library was the one place I knew had air conditioning in summer"

Nowadays free needles/disposal/pron...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:14 AM (6qErC)

18 I used to be a big Mercedes Lackey fan as a young thing. Valdemar, Oathblood, the Diana Tregarde books, and her various shared world stories. Her Elemental Masters series began so well with "The Fire Rose", but by the time she wrote "Phoenix and Ashes" she was getting a bit preachy.

Anybody still reading Lackey?

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:14 AM (kQs4Y)

19 I read Fredric Brown's Fabulous Clipjoint on a trip to Chicago this week. A fascinating murder mystery set in some gritty post-WWII Chicago neighborhoods that are now much more gentrified. Only $1.99 on Kindle. Here's the Amazon description:

The Fabulous Clipjoint, first published in 1947, is a noir thriller and Edgar Award-winner by master mystery and science fiction author Fredric Brown (1906-1972). The book centers on a young man's search for the killer or killers of his father, which the police have dismissed as a random murder in a Chicago back-alley. The Fabulous Clipjoint, Brown's first full-length novel, is the first book in a series of 7 featuring the nephew and uncle team of detectives Ed and Ambrose Hunter.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at September 22, 2019 09:15 AM (FXjhj)

20 I read Song of the Orphans by Daniel Price. This is the sequel to Flight of the Silvers in The Silvers series. The book continues the fascinating plot of apocalypse survivors trying to save their second world from collapse, which is coming in just over four years. A lot of action set in a parallel Earth, with unique characters. Now to wait a year or two for the concluding work in this trilogy.

I also read an interesting, little novel, The Dreamers by Karen Thompson Walker. A virus infects an isolated college town in California causing victims to fall into a deep, long sleep. Fast-paced, interesting characters an exciting end. I'll be looking for Walker's first novel, The Age of Miracles.

Posted by: Zoltan at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (xb43q)

21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)

22 Read Latest in Big Lake series by Nick Russell

Fun series of books about a small town sheriff in the mountains of S Arizona.

I like series like these as you get to know the characters, even the bit players. Over time you make a connection with a few character and feel a connection with their lives and/or tribulations.

I do think too many of these cut and paste from backstories too many times thinking that someone just picked up the series at book #4 or #6. There must be some research into way this is done our it would not be a common occurrence in series about a person or a place.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (JFO2v)

23 I watched the "skinny house" video on the ONT. Did anyone else notice the lack of space for books? Do younger people even read them?

I think I'm lucky that I won't be in this world all that much longer.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:18 AM (VaN/j)

24 14

$0.99 in Kindle

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:18 AM (JFO2v)

25 Do younger people even read them?"

What? One "reads" phones.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (6qErC)

26 In the midst of Touched By Fire, by Louise Barnett, a biography of George Armstrong Custer. It covers his entire life, including his exploits in the Civil War, Washita, Little Bighorn, as well as the campaign by his wife to keep his memory alive in the many years she outlived him (he died aged 36). It is pretty detailed and not too PC.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (fe8qf)

27 21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)

survival of the fittest!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (JFO2v)

28 Seeing that post about Joseph Wambaugh reminded me it has been a long time sine I saw the movie The Black Marble. One wonders if the book is any good. The Kindle version if $8. The DVD is $140. Must be a collector's item.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (mpXpK)

29 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Love and Hate in Jamestown is now in my amazon cart. Thank you--it looks fascinating!

I've been all over the place with reading, finishing nothing. I am enjoying Boris Johnson's Life of London, recommended here. It's a nice, witty introduction to historically important figures in London, leading me to want to read more about some of them and increase my knowledge of history.

And I just started Rediscover Catholicism, given to me by a friend who attends the Catholic church I've been going to lately. So far I am finding it inspiring, and after I finish it, I should know if Catholicism is my path, or not.

Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (OX9vb)

30 Hey everyone!

Thanks for the plug, OM. I'm really working on shameless self-promotion. I was on base Friday and a major was telling me about a friend who loves reading sci-fi, so without interrupting her I pull out a copy of Man of Destiny, signed it and handed it to her.

"Here, give this to him. Let me know what he thinks."



Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (cfSRQ)

31 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.
Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx, whatever it is, he's against it.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (HaL55)

32 18 Anybody still reading Lackey?



Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:14 AM (kQs4Y)

I read all of her stuff. Currently waiting for the last few Elemental Masters books to come down in price on the Kindle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:21 AM (mpXpK)

33 I wonder if the world has changed so much that no single person has the chance to do so much without being pilloried on a regular basis for mistakes large and small.
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I've wondered about that also. Is it that society has grown so large and complex that distinguished individuals are simply lost in the culture, or is it that society simply does not produce them anymore?

There was a time when almost every city produced notable genuinely notable local figures. That doesn't seem to happen these days.

"Towering cities and clamorous teeming populations have conspired to make unknown great men an American tradition." -- Spied on the bathroom wall of George's Middle East Delicatessen, Atlanta Ga.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:22 AM (CDGwz)

34

That's NOT FINNISH, there is nowhere to park yer arse Valteri,or do you lot just swan aboot admiring each other pants,that's COLD man...Oooh yes it's Finland ya ,free Wodka @ the V section.......

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 09:22 AM (5IHGB)

35 Read another Fannie Flagg novel this week -- "Welcome to the World, Baby Girl!" It's another of her Elwood Springs, Missouri stories, this time, about a star female TV reporter (early/mid 1970s) with a mysterious past, and her distant relatives in Elwood Springs, who intervene during a crisis point in her life. What struck me about this book was how Flagg portrayed the network news brass, even then, as being absolutely ruthless assholes who didn't care about people living in flyover country (although she didn't use that term) or what they aired, as long as it got ratings. Very much like today's clickbait oriented internet....

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 09:23 AM (9WuX0)

36 I have a question for any Waugh fans. I've been reading some of his letters, and it's clear he liked mysteries. There's even an exchange between him and Erle Stanley Gardner.

But he doesn't seem to have written about them. In the Ronald Knox biography, he specifically begs off discussing Knox's own mysteries, pretty much classing them with the crosswords.

That's odd. Knox himself wrote about mysteries a lot, so did GKC, of course, and almost all other fans. Eliot, Barzun, the list is long. Anyone know anything more about that.

BTW: Waugh's bio of Knox has a frontispiece by Arthur Pollen. He was the son of the naval fire control inventor.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:23 AM (VaN/j)

37 *waves at all the pretty bookists*

Truncated visit this morning, still much moving into the lair to do.



God invented drugs to keep Keith Richards from taking over the world.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:23 AM (FNXDu)

38 Do younger people even read them?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:18 AM (VaN/j)

I only have my own children as examples, so I don't know. But they both like to read (they are 30-ish), and prefer paper books to electronic, though they use both.

Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (OX9vb)

39 My book group is making me very happy by taking on Tom Jones. Fielding was a much earlier writer than Dickens, for example, and I think this came out before magazines were available to serialize things (I think printing presses were just churning out single page broadsheets). That said he produces some of the longest sentences this side of Proust that are just chock full of hilarious commentary. I think he was influenced by Cervantes into just injecting himself in the narrative whenever he fucking wanted to that must have made contemporaries go WTF. I think when the movie came out that it was just at the beginning of the sexual revolution when all Whoreyweird wanted to obsess about was fucking before porn said why just hint at it. My point is that this book got pigeonholed as being about sex when it's really much much more.

Whoreyweird misleading everyone; that doesn't happen now, right?

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (y7DUB)

40 We sent our grand-nephew a hardcover copy of "Treasure Island", unabridged, with all the NC Wyeth illustrations. (I didn' know there were any abridged versions. It seems sinful.) He turned six yesterday and we got a call from Idaho. There was this little boy voice on the line shouting "Thank you! Thank you! Pirates!!! We're gonna read it today!!"

Apparently, he REALLY likes pirates and adventure stories.

I am so pleased. Treasure Island was one of the books that set me on a life of reading. I'm hoping it does the same for him. Also, I
hope the family builds some wonderful memories reading it together.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (bmdz3)

41 Yes children still read books if their parents get them started on it early. I work in a library and get to see the kids who are engaged in something other than 'screen time'.

Posted by: kallisto at September 22, 2019 09:25 AM (Xhp1L)

42 21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)
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Survival of the fittest, I suppose.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (VaN/j)

43 Apparently, he REALLY likes pirates and adventure stories."

We'll fix that!

/US Dept of (mis)Education

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (6qErC)

44 I've been slacking off reading lately *hangs head in shame*

I just started Ryan Swanson's "The Strenuous Life: Theodore Roosevelt and the Making of the American Athlete". How little Teedie, a wheezy, cosseted, bespectacled ponce in velvet knickers, became a freight train of a man.

I love all things Teddy and the author has a fun breezy style.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (kQs4Y)

45 Good morning all - not much accomplished, reading-wise this week, between ripping up parts of the garden, and working on the current WIP. I think the book that I dipped into the most this week was a massive tome on travel in Victorian America - "Wet Britches and Muddy Boots" by John H. White. Sounds dull, but it's not, as it covers about every form of travel there was, from steamboats to city trolley-cars. I found a nearly new copy for cheap some years ago when doing research for my Harvey Girl novel, "Sunset and Steel Rails." It saves time and trouble, having my own personal reference library for things...

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (xnmPy)

46 31 As said often, Marxism done right

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (ZCEU2)

47 27 21 Keith Richards may have damaged a lot of brain cells, but the ones remaining are choice.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:16 AM (kQs4Y)

survival of the fittest!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 09:19 AM (JFO2v)
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You beat me to it. Curses!

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (VaN/j)

48 You want settlers?

I am currently reading "Tales of Yesterday's Florida Keys" by John Viele. It is a collection of stories of people and events in the Florida Keys from the first natives up to the opening of the Overseas Highway in 1927.

Tough people on those little islands and you never want to book passage on a mail boat in the 1800's. Also, hurricanes have been wiping out the Bahamas and the Keys for centuries without any help from the Globull Warmerists.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (Z+IKu)

49 God invented drugs to keep Keith Richards from taking over the world.

We all should be concerned about what type of world we're going to leave for him.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at September 22, 2019 09:28 AM (HaL55)

50 In other news, I'm continuing to re-read Hugh Thomas' book on the Spanish Civil War and have found the stupidest sentence ever written about it.

I like Thomas' detail, but the guy is an utter idiot. Without further ado...

"The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

REALLY? They couldn't???

This is the great weakness of Thomas. He writes as though "libertarian communism" was a proven economic system and it's failure left the entire world thunderstruck.

It's almost touching how he notes that *despite* radical reorganization of industry, constant political intrigue and random expropriations, the industrial production of the Republic actually - get this, brace yourself - DECLINED.

No kidding. This shocks him. He naturally blames lack of foreign investment and supply issues, never noting that the foreign invested dried up because shareholders didn't want their investments "collectivized" and that supply issues emerged because the syndicalization of the industries didn't bother to account for the cost of raw materials.

Gosh, if only "true anarchism" were actually tried, it might work, huh?

Meanwhile, Nationalist Spain pretty much left things alone - though they did return land to the original owners and naturally execute people they didn't like (it was the fashion of the time).

Anyway, a lot of the detailed accounts of battles is interesting to me, but whenever Thomas starts in on economics, his stupidity shines through like a mighty beacon in the night.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)

51 "Freight train of a man" is a nice phrase.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:29 AM (FNXDu)

52 Each of the little Neradas has over 200 books in their possession. Zero video games and no cell phones. They each were thought to read before school age just like their parents were.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 09:29 AM (fe8qf)

53 I love all things Teddy and the author has a fun breezy style.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:26 AM (kQs4Y)


Teddy owned Airedales which made him a superior human being.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:30 AM (y7DUB)

54 On the set of Pirates of the Carribean, Keith Richards wore the same outfit he wore in 1790.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 22, 2019 09:31 AM (LxTcq)

55 You can get the Disney version of treasure island on DVD for $10, Not too bad but a little pricey since most DVDs are selling for around $5 now. But Disney has always been high.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:31 AM (mpXpK)

56 51 "Freight train of a man" is a nice phrase.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:29 AM (FNXDu)

Consensus was that Teddy sucked all the oxygen out of the room.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:31 AM (kQs4Y)

57 That should read "taught to read"

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 09:32 AM (fe8qf)

58 Lurk, lurk, lurk...

Posted by: None shall pass at September 22, 2019 09:32 AM (JdcHc)

59 "The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

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That's a doozy, alright. Sounds like Baldrick explaining why one of his cunning plans didn't work.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 09:33 AM (+y/Ru)

60 Beowulf, Heorot, science fiction setting? The bookend to go with Lloyd's retelling is The Legacy of Heorot by Larry Niven, Jerry Pournelle, and Steven Barnes.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y4oaw5l5

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:33 AM (QSzhg)

61 Hmmm. Read a book or read AOS?

"Your screen time is up 57% this week."

Posted by: RI Red at September 22, 2019 09:34 AM (tDzWD)

62 39 My book group is making me very happy by taking on Tom Jones....
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:24 AM (y7DUB)
________

Chesterton's take:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h7dq7p

To be fair to the movie, that is part of what the book was known for, and like Moby Dick, it's not really possible to make a reasonable length film about it. But it is notable that, contrary to the impression Richardson gives, it was standard reading for girls. At least, that's what Jane Austin says.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:34 AM (VaN/j)

63 And I just started Rediscover Catholicism, given to
me by a friend who attends the Catholic church I've been going to
lately. So far I am finding it inspiring, and after I finish it, I
should know if Catholicism is my path, or not.



Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:20 AM (OX9vb)

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My wife really enjoys Matthew Kelly's books. She has that one, but hasn't read it yet. It's in her stack, though.

We're both converts, and after entering the Church, both of us underwent sort of a 'second conversion' where our faith became deeper and more meaningful. Conversion is the beginning of the road, not the end.

She likes Kelly, I like Waugh. If you have questions, feel free to email me, address at my website. I was an RCIA sponsor a few years ago, so I might be able to help.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:35 AM (cfSRQ)

64 Gee everyone has quit posting on the EMT. Wonder which one they are posting on now.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (mpXpK)

65 I know this is the book thread and not the movie thread but a friend of mine has a rather literary four word movie review:

Ad Astra = Ad Nauseam

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (+y/Ru)

66 Miley, first word, Fremschamen. Prob spelled it wrong, tho.

Don't know the second word for requited love. Wish I did, too.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (zwcGu)

67 Tough people on those little islands and you never
want to book passage on a mail boat in the 1800's. Also, hurricanes have
been wiping out the Bahamas and the Keys for centuries without any help
from the Globull Warmerists.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (Z+IKu)

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Wait, you mean history didn't begin with television???

It's interesting to look back at the various storms and disasters that we can't even grasp. There are references to "The Great Storm of X Year" and all we have are tales of villages being washed away, ships lost, but no one has any real clue as to the true extent of the damage.

Because death was always close in those days.

I do wish they'd make up their minds about what the "true" temperature of the earth should be.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:39 AM (cfSRQ)

68 Read Where the Crawdads Sing this week, by Delia Owens. I believe it is her first book.

Amazing writing, the descriptions of North Carolina's coastline/swamp area really draw you in. It is a murder mystery, somewhat written in flashbacks and flashforwards until you get the whole story.

It was a quick, diverting read.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (zwcGu)

69 Eris, not read anything by Mercedes Lackey in ages. The Adept series was the last I read.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (QSzhg)

70 50 In other news, I'm continuing to re-read Hugh Thomas' book on the Spanish Civil War and have found the stupidest sentence ever written about it.

I like Thomas' detail, but the guy is an utter idiot. Without further ado...

"The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

REALLY? They couldn't???
....
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:28 AM (cfSRQ)
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One might have checked how revolutionary reorganizations worked for the French and Russian fleets when they tried it.

There's an Orwell essay in which he pretty much admits - reluctantly* - that democratizing the services won't work. And that the anarchist militias could only fight defensively.

*It's always well to remember that he WAS a Leftist. Comes out if you read him in great doses. For all his virtues, he was not one of us.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (VaN/j)

71
* looks around *

Some of you are not wearing pants.

Some of you are commando.

You know who you are. So do we.

Posted by: Bob from NSA at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (ljn6f)

72 Chesterton's take:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h7dq7p


Wow. Thanks for linking that. With the cottage industry that academia has set up for literary commentary it's hard to improve upon that. Truthfully I find these book threads to be first rate for that too...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:42 AM (y7DUB)

73 Sadly any new thread kills the old.

Many a army has tried electing officers or the Communist try at having a 2nd political officer, imo it doesn't work.

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:43 AM (ZCEU2)

74 67 It's interesting to look back at the various storms
and disasters that we can't even grasp. There are references to "The
Great Storm of X Year" and all we have are tales of villages being
washed away, ships lost, but no one has any real clue as to the true
extent of the damage.

Because death was always close in those days.

I do wish they'd make up their minds about what the "true" temperature of the earth should be.


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:39 AM (cfSRQ)

See my first post in the EMT yesterday:

Good Morning Morons; today is Saturday, September 21, 2019. One this day
in 1938 the Great Hurricane of 1938 made landfall on Long Island in New
York. The death toll was estimated at 500-00 people. It was only a cat 3
hurricane but since these were rare as far North as Long Island the
press made a big deal of it. Must have been globull warming huh?


Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:43 AM (mpXpK)

75 The Great Hurricane of 1780.

Devastated all of the Antilles. Killed between 20,000 and 24,000. And not a single SUV or plastic straw in existence.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:44 AM (QSzhg)

76 Morning, fellow Book Threadists!

I finished Jay Winik's The Great Upheaval, which is a monster of a book tying together events of the American Revolution, the French Revolution, and one of the Russo-Turkish wars. Apparently, the period from 1780-1800 was an interesting one, for certain values of.

I've also been writing. Slowly, but surely. Last week, I released a regency romance novel called A Small and Inconvenient Disaster. It's short, sweet, and not at all to the usual Moron taste. Some of the 'ettes might like it, though.

And I'm working on a little story about Thanksgiving, set during the Civil War era. Thanksgiving seems to be losing its importance in American culture (something to do with its Christian origins, and the increasing secularization of society, perhaps?) and I think a short story about a family celebrating, even when they think they don't have much to celebrate, is in order.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (zlzYb)

77 "Your screen time is up 57% this week."

You'll have to do better next week, tvarish!

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (6qErC)

78 72 Chesterton's take:

https://tinyurl.com/y6h7dq7p

Wow. Thanks for linking that. With the cottage industry that academia has set up for literary commentary it's hard to improve upon that. Truthfully I find these book threads to be first rate for that too...
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:42 AM (y7DUB)
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Opinions differ, but the collection All Things Considered is, IMO, his best set of essays.

And I hate NPC - er, NPR - for stealing the title.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (VaN/j)

79 On the subject of McCaffrey, I'm working on a full reread of the Dragonriders of Pern series. It holds up. Plus, the books start at the usual length of the time, about 200 pages, and even the later/longer ones are 350 or so. Quick reads, good plots.

Posted by: John Taloni at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (/Nhc5)

80 Fremdschämen is a neologism which first appeared in 2005.

It's not in Duden (the official register) and it's not in Leo (the definitive online dictionary). There is a discussion of it on the Leo forums in which everyone hopes this non-word has crawled away to die.

http://bit.ly/2kK89x7

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (FNXDu)

81 As said often, Marxism done right

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 09:27 AM (ZCEU2)

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One thing I've learned in my studies is that the usual crap about Libertarians being the polar opposite of Marxists is garbage.

Libertarian Communism was totally a thing, and it's arguably where Libertarians are today. They don't want "state" control, but corporate control is just peachy.

Gosh, that's got a name: anarcho-syndicalism, where syndicates run everything, nominally in the name of the people, but in practice under the direction of a board of control.

Much of the Spanish Civil War was about the Stalinists bringing the Anarchists to heel, with a subtext of how the Anarchists couldn't effectively resist the focused, disciplined tactics of the Stalinists.

As I've noted repeatedly, the notion that the Republic was a democracy in any way, shape or form is a bold-faced lie. If the Republic had triumphed, the groundwork was already in place for a Stalinist dictatorship.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)

82 Amazing writing, the descriptions of North Carolina's coastline/swamp area really draw you in. It is a murder mystery, somewhat written in flashbacks and flashforwards until you get the whole story.

It was a quick, diverting read.
Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (zwcGu)


Mrs Hate read that recently and recommended it highly. I've been waiting for someone who doesn't watch The View to confirm that so thanks.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (y7DUB)

83 Nowadays JAG fobbits are the political commissars in the US military.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (QSzhg)

84 Keith is a big fan of the Aubrey Maturin series

He loved being a Boy Scout when he was 12

Its in his auto bio which is a great read. The opening is hilarious

Posted by: Ignoramus at September 22, 2019 09:48 AM (Tajnj)

85 booken morgen horden

I think I mentioned last time - read and enjoyed Frank Fleming's SideQuest and Hellbenders
dud not realize that he is @IMAO who writes for Babylon Bee
as ypu might expect, his books are very funny

aldo been reading Iloba Andrews Innkeeper series and the new Sapphire Flames in that other series

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 09:49 AM (G546f)

86 Walked away from Dragonriders of Pern with The Masterharper of Pern. I have never read any of the books Todd has written set in the same universe. There comes a point where enough is enough, especially when Anne was busy before her death coalescing all of her various series into one great unified storyverse.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:50 AM (QSzhg)

87 Morning readers!

Posted by: Weasel at September 22, 2019 09:51 AM (mitVr)

88 That Finnish library image made me think: it's a Baroque interior, but somehow we can tell just by looking at it that it's a Northern culture rather than Mediterranean. I can't put my finger on any specific detail, but you just know that interior's north of the Alps.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 09:51 AM (G02Y7)

89 I found, at a thrift store, a complete set of McGuffey Readers in hardcover. The newest copyright appears to be 1920, so they're not originals, but you can bet I snapped up those babies PDQ. $2.50 apiece; can you believe it? I was flipping through them, and there are excepts and poems from people I've never even heard of, and I consider myself reasonably well-read for my age. Kids in the late 1800s had to know their stuff.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 22, 2019 09:51 AM (zlzYb)

90 One might have checked how revolutionary reorganizations worked for the French and Russian fleets when they tried it.


Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 09:40 AM (VaN/j)

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This is exactly why Henry G. Payne is a superior author. He constantly compares Spain with other revolutions, including France and Russia but also Hungary, Greece, Yugoslavia, etc.

He doesn't offer the stupid sop that "at least the Republic meant well" because:
1. It's irrelevant, and
2. It didn't.

If the Republic triumphed, there would be class liquidations. The clergy was slaughtered wholesale, something that Thomas downplays by hinting that maybe they sorta, you know, deserved it. He even quotes a priest suffering from survivor's guilt who says so, which is outrageous.

After the big reorganization of the Republic and Largo Caballero taking over, the new Minister of Agriculture was - brace yourself - an expert in *Marxist theory.*

Yep, that was his qualification. Oddly, famine dogged the Republican territory after that.

Who could have predicted that???

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:52 AM (cfSRQ)

91 @63 Thank you, A. H. Lloyd. I may have questions.

Posted by: April at September 22, 2019 09:53 AM (OX9vb)

92 11 Is that Keith Richards? I didn't know he could read.

Posted by: Blutarski at September 22, 2019 09:07 AM (VNfwt)


Yes, it's Keef, and despite his reputation, he's a big fan of books and libraries.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 09:53 AM (MH+aB)

93 I prefer "Thought to read" you are coming along well though. wink wink nudge nudge.
Can reading early be taught or is it on natures timetable, like learning to walk or potty train,speaking?

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 09:54 AM (5IHGB)

94 83
Nowadays JAG fobbits are the political commissars in the US military.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (QSzhg)

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And of course that's David French's big claim to military veteran status. He spent a tour processing powers of attorney and Article 15s. Not exactly Audie Murphy material.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 09:56 AM (xG/b0)

96 ""Someone who gets outraged on behalf of someone else who has not asked for support.""


Leftist?

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at September 22, 2019 09:57 AM (9Om/r)

97 I'm at the point in The People's Tragedy where Figes mentions what a shithole the commies turned Petrograd into during the civil war with people starving all over the place. He discusses how Gorky was one of those odd characters that Lenin liked despite the fact that he complained constantly about how the commies ran roughshod over good people and produced dogshit propaganda posing as art. Because of Lenin liking him he was able to keep some artists from starving. Figes mentions, in kind of a snarky way, that Gorky was able to increase his personal art collection on the cheap but when everyone is destitute it's not exactly a sellers market. I've always considered Gorky kind of a hack of an author, rightly or otherwise, but that doesn't mean he wasn't a good person.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 09:57 AM (y7DUB)

98 Keith!!!
On my end, I'm working on some updates to my company, website, and more. A pilot-study that evaluates my new method for measuring blood oxidative stress is in the works. I'll offer my ebooks for free in the near future for all Morons. 2020 should be interesting...

Posted by: scrood at September 22, 2019 09:58 AM (tGsDy)

99 And David French tried to get himself awarded the Purple Heart for a paper-cut.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:58 AM (QSzhg)

100 Good Morning Morons; today is Saturday, September 21, 2019. One this day
in 1938 the Great Hurricane of 1938 made landfall on Long Island in New
York. The death toll was estimated at 500-00 people. It was only a cat 3
hurricane but since these were rare as far North as Long Island the
press made a big deal of it. Must have been globull warming huh?
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 09:43 AM (mpXpK)


I'd guess another reason why the media made a big deal of it is because of the number of media outlets headquartered in NYC, even back then.

"All news is local.".

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 09:59 AM (MH+aB)

101 We have always been in flux. Turn of the century Americans feared that urbanization was turning the citizenry effeminate and soft, and mass immigration was changing the demographic.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 09:59 AM (kQs4Y)

102 funny reading on vagina museum

https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)

103 Last week a few of us brought up reading aloud to enhance and share the words. I mentioned the Prompt book Dickens used to read "A Christmas Carol" to audiences when he was on tour, with all his notes on what to include and how to express each line. Levengers put out a facsimile some years ago. It is like a window into Dickens' mind as you can see what he thought was important for an audience to hear.

Turns out there was a similar prompt book for Dickens' "David Copperfield". Levengers has it on sale for about 7 bucks instead of $60. (Levengers doesn't print as many books as they used to.) My copy came the other day. It's a beautifully bound hardcover and I look forward to holding and reading it.

Here's my problem: I HATE the book "David Copperfield".

In 4th grade some administrator decided it would be a good idea to have our class read Dickens and chose DC. They obtained paperback copies so poorly made pages were falling out before we opended the books. The print was so small that it strained even young eyes. But the worst was our teacher sucked hot swamp water. She provided no context of the period, why the book was chosen, any background on Dickens, or what the Victorian vocabulary meant. We would read a chapter, turn in a report of what happened, then go on to the next chapter. This took a few months as it's a looong book. This turned me off Dickens for many decades. (It also made me wonder what imbecile thought having some old maid, unimaginative bitch should be teaching active youngsters was a good idea. I've known nuns that were like Carol Channing compared to this teacher. But that's another matter.) I was in my fifties before I ever read "A Christmas Carol".

The Christmas Carol prompt book was so good because I knew the story. My memory of David Copperfield is ancient and fuzzy at best. Question for the book thread: Is it worth reading David Copperfield at all? Any fans of DC or Dickens' other longer novels? I like the literature of the period both for the stories and the writing style. But Dickens is a huge blank area for me. I did pick up a good hardcover edition of DC at the used book store yesterday. It won't fall apart and the print is decent sized. I know Kindle has it for free or almost but I wanted a physical copy.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (bmdz3)

104 As I've noted repeatedly, the notion that the Republic was a democracy in any way, shape or form is a bold-faced lie. If the Republic had triumphed, the groundwork was already in place for a Stalinist dictatorship.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)


I recently corrected a speaker that we're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:01 AM (y7DUB)

105 Henry Payne's book is on my list. I will be ordering a few next month; I'd planned to put N A M Rodger's 3rd Volume at the top of the list, but it won't be out until next fall. Pisses me off. For FIFTY YEARS I've been living with the fact that serious naval books are delayed about 75% of the time.

One anecdote about buying one. Some years ago I called the Naval Institute Press to order some books. I offhand mentioned that I seemed to have missed out on one which was no longer listed. The girl said "I think I saw a copy. Would you like to hold?"

Uh, yes. So I got their last one. I hope she is happily married with many wonderful kids. The world needs more people like that.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:01 AM (VaN/j)

106 102 funny reading on vagina museum

https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
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I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

107 94 83
Nowadays JAG fobbits are the political commissars in the US military.


Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (QSzhg)

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And of course that's David French's big claim to military veteran status. He spent a tour processing powers of attorney and Article 15s. Not exactly Audie Murphy material.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:56 AM (cfSRQ)
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Hey! Where would we be without someone representing AWOL Freon Rangers? Didn't think of that, did you?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (VaN/j)

108 Last night on the ONT someone made a comment about Moon Maidens and Joey Bidet.

And all I could think of is First Men in the Moon. Joey Bidet type is the potty scientist with the mutton chops who invented the spaceship. Moon Maidens are Asgardian Valkyries from Moonbase Valhalla. Got to keep the secret of Aetherial Currents from those puny Humans.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (QSzhg)

109 Read Latest in Big Lake series by Nick Russell

Fun series of books about a small town sheriff in the mountains of S Arizona.

That sounds a lot like Longmire (which I dearly miss!). I'll be looking for those. Thanks for the mention!

Posted by: SandyCheeks at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (T2vnY)

110 84: yes, keith's bio is a great read. keith is actually a pretty intelligent guy.

Posted by: chavez the hugo at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (KP5rU)

111 My memory of David Copperfield is ancient and fuzzy at best. Question
for the book thread: Is it worth reading David Copperfield at all? Any
fans of DC or Dickens' other longer novels?


I had to read it in HS for English lit. My memory of it was meh. Not good or bad.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:04 AM (mpXpK)

112 I recently corrected a speaker that we're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

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Grammar Nazi Seth McFarland on the proper use of the word . . .

https://bit.ly/2kWv8VH

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

113 "Marxism done right" refers to the period of time after which Marxism has killed every last human, and most of the animal kingdom.

Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:06 AM (RuIsu)

114 109 Read Latest in Big Lake series by Nick Russell

Fun series of books about a small town sheriff in the mountains of S Arizona.

That sounds a lot like Longmire (which I dearly miss!). I'll be looking for those. Thanks for the mention!
Posted by: SandyCheeks at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (T2vnY)

The also look at the The Liturgical Mysteries by Mark Schweizer

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:07 AM (JFO2v)

115 Doyle & Acton is a good series - must get caught back up in it

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:07 AM (G546f)

116 103
Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (bmdz3)
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The last time I read Copperfield, my wife walked into the room and asked why I was smiling. I said "Dora has finally died."

But Micawber is justly praised, and aunt Trot and Mr Dick are good too. There's also the ending, in which Dickens surprisingly attacks prison reform.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:07 AM (VaN/j)

117 112 I recently corrected a speaker that we're not a democracy but a constitutional republic.

-
Grammar Nazi Seth McFarland on the proper use of the word . . .

https://bit.ly/2kWv8VH
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:04 AM (+y/Ru)

at the BEE

Liberals Clarify Their Racism Is Actually Democratic Racism

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (JFO2v)

118 I found Paul Cobb's The Race for Paradise (which I bought five years ago, but lost) and finally finished it!!

The book is what it says it is - the Crusades from the Muslims' perspective. I liked that it didn't end with the stupid Fourth Crusade like too many Protestant / Enlightenment accounts do. Turns out the Crusade was #winning again afterward, mostly without help from the incoming western armies. It was mostly Muslim disunity that allowed the resurgence.

But then the Mongols came and the local Christians, including Crusaders, sided with Hulagu Khan. When Hulagu lost, the Christians were all left in a Near East which hated them, so the Mamelukes in Egypt picked them off.

Cobb's problem is he doesn't know when to stop, so the book keeps on keepin' on to the fall of Constantinople and then Rhodes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)

119 81
As I've noted repeatedly, the notion that the Republic was a democracy in any way, shape or form is a bold-faced lie. If the Republic had triumphed, the groundwork was already in place for a Stalinist dictatorship.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)
________

The problem with that is it is the word Tocqueville used, after all.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:10 AM (VaN/j)

120 Still reading the new Churchill. He hated communism from the minute it arose and correctly predicted that it would be the most virulent terror of his century.

He also thought the post-WWI restrictions on Germany were onerous and that she should be brought back into the fold of nations.

Succinctly: "Kiss the Hun, kill the Bolshevik".

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:11 AM (FNXDu)

121 Mostly nonfiction this week. Finished _We Have No Idea_, which is a fun book about areas of science (physics, mostly) which are still complete blanks on the map. How does gravity work? How big is the Universe? What is dark energy? Etc. I enjoyed it -- it's written for a lay readership and is very jokey, but manages to not talk down to the reader.

I started a bio of the artist Edward Gorey, called _Born to be Posthumous_, and I find myself very irritated with the author. He's some modern "culture critic" who keeps revealing his own stunning ignorance. At one point he mentions how the endemic gang violence of Chicago (where Gorey grew up) must have influenced Edward's morbid view of the world. Two pages later he's mystified why Gorey's father moved the family to an upscale suburb as soon as he got a well-paid job. Hmm. It sure is a conundrum.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:11 AM (G02Y7)

122 118 I found Paul Cobb's The Race for Paradise (which I bought five years ago, but lost) and finally finished it!!

The book is what it says it is - the Crusades from the Muslims' perspective. I liked that it didn't end with the stupid Fourth Crusade like too many Protestant / Enlightenment accounts do. Turns out the Crusade was #winning again afterward, mostly without help from the incoming western armies. It was mostly Muslim disunity that allowed the resurgence.

But then the Mongols came and the local Christians, including Crusaders, sided with Hulagu Khan. When Hulagu lost, the Christians were all left in a Near East which hated them, so the Mamelukes in Egypt picked them off.

Cobb's problem is he doesn't know when to stop, so the book keeps on keepin' on to the fall of Constantinople and then Rhodes.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)
________

Not sure he should have stopped even that late. Albuquerque thought he was continuing the Crusades when building an empire in the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)

123 Lurk, lurk, lurk...
Posted by: None shall pass at September 22, 2019 09:32 AM (JdcHc)


You're doing it wrong.

OK, some book content (possibly better suited to the gun thread):

I started "Accuracy and Precision for Long Range Shooting" by Bryan Litz. This is not the Litz book recommended by Weasel but it looked like a better place to start instead of diving directly into ballistics. I've only finished Part 1 but so far, it's been kind of disappointing. Basically, he has a software statistical model with which he runs repeated simulations to quantify the effects of things like target range, wind estimation, ammo consistency, etc. And, shockingly enough, he finds that your on-target probability goes down with longer ranges, less consistent ammo, and so on. OK, I didn't have estimates to the second decimal place but I kind of already knew all that. Maybe the "...and here's how to get better at that" will be in the later sections. Or in the next book.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 10:13 AM (qc+VF)

124 hiya

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:14 AM (arJlL)

125 I wonder: was it the colonies that ultimately doomed the Crusading project? After Columbus all the meathead younger sons and troublesome middle-class strivers could go off to conquer Peru or Bengal or wherever instead of bashing their heads against the Holy Land over and over.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (G02Y7)

126 Currently reading #5 in David Black's Harry Gilmour series, the adventures of a young RNVR submarine skipper in early WWII. Very good action, believable characters, humor, and a suave villain who is out to scuttle the young captain both literally and figuratively. Free on Kindle unlimited.

Posted by: That Deplorable SOB Van Owen at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (wZ9cV)

127 Look at this magnificent specimen of felis domesticus:

https://tinyurl.com/y3xee7m9

It's the cover of Walter Chendoha's book of cat photography (he was the Cecil Beaton of feline glamour photography). I had it on my hold list at the library but won't get it before I move.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (kQs4Y)

128 100 ... "It was only a cat 3
hurricane but since these were rare as far North as Long Island the
press made a big deal of it. Must have been globull warming huh?"

The hurricane of 1938 hit my hometown in RI squarely. The Providence Journal put out a booklet about it and the damage. It got a lot of unusual coverage because it was such a rare event (fortunately) and the damage was easy to photograph: commercial fishing trawlers swept a quarter mile and left in a town park, before and after pictures of fair rides at the beach destroyed, houses moved off their foundations, high water marks up to the second story in downtown Providence. I grew up with accounts of the hurricane. At least in 1938 it wasn't a political matter.

Posted by: JTB at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (bmdz3)

129 286
Another couple of classics that the Morons should read before the SJWs eradicate them is Mark Twain's Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer. You can
get a compendium of all of his works on the Kindle from Amazon for 0.99.




Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:15 AM (mpXpK)

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (mpXpK)

130 Today is the first Sunday AM in at least 2 months that I haven't felt like a complete piece of New York Times. A relief.

Anyone read the Hemingway/Severino book? Ages ago I gave up books on current events, but I'm tempted by that one.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (VaN/j)

131 Eris you are moving to a different state, right?

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (G546f)

132 "Marxism done right" refers to the period of time after which Marxism has killed every last human, and most of the animal kingdom.
Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:06 AM (RuIsu)

Yup.....and for the animal lovers out there, do not research the Soviet whaling ships which ravaged the seas in and around Antarctica after WW2.

A senseless environmental crime all done by the marxists which is never mentioned by the likes of that cretin girl with the dead eyes.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (Z+IKu)

133 I was interested in the later Crusade again because I'd also read Jonathan Phillips, The Fourth Crusade and the Sack of Constantinople.

Phillips explains in detail what the East knows already and what the West will ashamedly admit: the Fourth Crusade was Christendom's most colossal own-goal.

Basically the Crusade showed up in Constantinople because the Crusade's nobles needed the cash and because their paymasters in Venice figured that adventure for a good bet. It was a good bet: Constantinople was run by a lazy emperor who had prepared nothing against a naval expedition. The Greeks had nothing to fear from the Arab navies, 'tis true; but they should have observed what European navies could do. This was the fourth, not the first, outre-mer Crusade.

In 1203, Venice landed the Crusade's troops in Greek territory, the Europeans did some damage, Constantinople had a palace coup, and the restored scions of that Angeloi family invited the Europeans in. And then, it all went sour.

To the extent Phillips revises anything, he explains that the Byzantines weren't angels either. They'd just come off one of those sporadic Hellenistic pogroms of Latins, as the Hellenes had done since Mithridates of Pontus. So when the Latins returned to the Hellespont, two decades later... there were many who remembered, on both sides. But the historians knew all this already, in 1213 AD and in 2013. Phillips is just presenting it all to the common Anglo.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:16 AM (ykYG2)

134 "The problems of anarchism at war could not have been predicted."

A.H. Lloyd, I read Thomas' book on the Spanish Civil War back in HS and I remember that line as well, and thought on it for a long time. He said as much that it was the only true example of anarchism (anarcho-socialism actually) being in power and running a government, and it would have been wonderful to see what would have happened if it had been left alone to succeed.

I think this is part of the whole revision of the past to celebrate the good revolutionaries who got rid of the bad revolutionaries who were only in it for their own self interest, and who were in turn liquidated by the evil totalitarians who perverted the vision into a grinding bureaucratic state.

Good Lenin - Bad Stalin sort of thing, or Good Trotsky, or whichever slice in time of the French Republic that you think was the apogee of the enlightenment and human freedom before the betrayals made Napoleon inevitable.

Andy Warhol stated that everyone will be famous for 15 minutes. I suspect that viewed in retrospect, every revolution has had those 15 minutes of transcendent freedom and doctrinal purity before being betrayed and its leading adherents purged; apparently perfection makes your political culture incapable of defending itself from its competitors.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 10:17 AM (xG/b0)

135 I'm in book 7 of Herodotus and, once you get through his magical mystery tour of the world in the early books and he talks about things he's more familiar with, he's a very engaging writer at least in translation. Xerxes is certainly the demanding tyrant, beheading all the participants when a whopper storm trashed the bridge being constructed between Asia and Europe. And punishing the sea for being part of it. Maybe Biden isn't so fucking nutty...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:18 AM (y7DUB)

136 Eris, that book is more expensive on eBay...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:18 AM (QSzhg)

137 Hey! Where would we be without someone representing AWOL Freon Rangers? Didn't think of that, did you?

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:03 AM (VaN/j)

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Everyone has a part to play. I am in no position to criticize that.

What I object to is the formulation that he uses, which implies he's something that he isn't.

I have never yet identified myself as a War on Terrorism Veteran I technically am one, but the clear implication is that I'm some sort of trigger-puller in the combat arms. I'm not. I'm the REMFist REMF you'll ever find.

Three Weeks with the Coasties is pretty much the apogee of my service (an amusing take on the Deepwater Horizon Oil Spill for those who haven't yet purchased it at the low, low price of $2.99 on the Kindle).

I've gotten a number of awards and could identify myself as a "decorated veteran" but they're all for administrative tasks.

I'm proud of what I've done, and I'm pretty sure my legacy is greater than French (how many unit crests did he design? I've already done two.)

Anyhow, I've tooted my horn as much as need be done. French is a poseur and a stuffed shirt, and I'm a good but tragically underselling author.

Hurt David French. Buy my books.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 10:19 AM (cfSRQ)

138
I'm in book 7 of Herodotus and, once you get through his magical mystery
tour of the world in the early books and he talks about things he's
more familiar with, he's a very engaging writer at least in translation.
Xerxes is certainly the demanding tyrant, beheading all the
participants when a whopper storm trashed the bridge being constructed
between Asia and Europe. And punishing the sea for being part of it.
Maybe Biden isn't so fucking nutty...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:18 AM (y7DUB)

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Ordering the Hellespont flogged for defying the King of Kings is awesome.

The movie "300" actually soft-pedaled the Greek version of history.

You're getting to the good part. Enjoy!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 10:21 AM (cfSRQ)

139 BTW you can get both of those Mark Twain books from Gutenberg for free, but I haven't figured out to post them in my Kindle Fire 10 so it will recognize them,.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:21 AM (mpXpK)

140 But then the Mongols came and the local Christians,
including Crusaders, sided with Hulagu Khan. When Hulagu lost, the
Christians were all left in a Near East which hated them, so the
Mamelukes in Egypt picked them off.



Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)

I recently stumbled across a lecture about the Mongol/Mameluke interactions, and it was interesting to consider what might have happened if the mongols had maintained a larger presence in the Levant. They usually showed more tolerance toward local/native religions like Christianity, and I wonder if they might have taken over the Christian kingdoms (such as they were by then), only to find themselves thrown out a couple hundred years later, similar to the situation in Russia. The Ottoman Empire would have been less powerful, Constantinople might not have fallen, and there might still be a Byzantine Empire. All because one battle ended differently.

Posted by: right wing yankee at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (zlzYb)

141 Saf, yes I think reading can be taught early, I think all of my siblings and cousins were reading by four years of age, though one hyperactive cousin hated the idea of sitting still to do so.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (2OS9i)

142 Actually I'd copy-pasted that too early. I think what actually happened is that Venice was very unparticular about HOW the Fourth Crusade paid them back, after Zara got sacked for them. Then a butthurt Angeloi prince in exile said to the already-compromised Crusader force, how 'bout Constantinople then.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (ykYG2)

143 My proudest awards are not for being a trigger puller, but for being part of the post Katrina/Rita relief effort.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:22 AM (QSzhg)

144 I need to find opportunities to jam the word "strenuosity" into my conversations.

"He has developed all his muscles by rigorous training and has expanded his chest till his capacious lungs are qualified to feed his blood with oxygen; and his vigorous heart sends that rich, vitalized fluid through his big neck into his active brain. And the result is what has come to be known as strenuosity."

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:23 AM (kQs4Y)

145 Miley, squeakywheel:

66 Miley, first word, Fremschamen. Prob spelled it wrong, tho.

Posted by: squeakywheel at September 22, 2019 09:38 AM (zwcGu)

Fremdschämen means this:

to feel ashamed about something someone else has done; to be embarrassed because someone else has embarrassed himself (and doesn't notice)

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:23 AM (yDjHx)

146 With a copy of Herodotus and the Blue Box D&D set you could run a killer Age of Leonidas roleplaying campaign.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:24 AM (G02Y7)

147 Good words, Miley. I don't know what they are.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:24 AM (yDjHx)

148 "... attempt to rewrite history to portray slavery is pretty much a
white-on-black affair that was invented on U.S. soil in 1619, rather
than endemic to almost every human culture that has ever existed."

from my view, only the US declaration and constitution freed men from slavery to a government, though it took the Civil War to remove the final remnants. Kings or popes or chiefs made men in other societies subjects, to their whims, including using the strongest men as cannon fodder.


China to this day sees their 1.4B humans as expendable, and works them long hours with little reward, for the advancement of the realm. And our own "totalitarian" leftists are trying to "put us back in chains" of mandates and impossible debt, imposed on us by an un-elected shadow government/warlord. They try to undo not just the last election, but the original revolution.


The charlatans like Sharpton/Obama/Holder used "their people" for their own enrichment, while the inner cities decayed. The heritage of Obama was not "up from slavery", yet he appropriated that victim status based solely on skin color. The left is oh so intent on keeping US divided into their preferred factions, for easier control.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 10:25 AM (Cus5s)

149 Even in WWII isn't it something like only %10 of the Army were infantryman?

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 10:25 AM (ZCEU2)

150 "He has developed all his muscles by rigorous training and has expanded
his chest till his capacious lungs are qualified to feed his blood with
oxygen; and his vigorous heart sends that rich, vitalized fluid through
his big neck into his active brain. And the result is what has come to
be known as strenuosity."


And all I can think of is Damaramaru from Dragon Half as he utters "I could have advanced two ranks and earned three meals a day" with a lightsaber piercing his helmet and hyper-compact brain.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (QSzhg)

151 There's another 19th century book on Cortez and the conquest of the Aztecs (author's name is Prescott, I think) that's quite good. A little biased against Catholics, but very accurate on the facts.

And yeah, I definitely made a point of emphasizing to my class that everyone else in Mexico was more than happy to help overthrow the Aztecs, given how many of their own people had become human sacrifices.

Posted by: Dr. T at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (zCpUM)

152 I wonder: was it the colonies that ultimately doomed the Crusading project?

Likely the West would have given up on Constantinople. It was always a bit of an embarrassment to Latin Christendom; I've likened the place to the Imperium of Warhammer 40000.

I think North Africa would have been the next Crusader project, if Spain and Portugal hadn't sailed off west. The Normans took bits of it during the 1000s or 1100s. And then of course France and Italy gobbled a lot of it over the 1800s.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (ykYG2)

153 I was interested in the later Crusade again because I'd also read Jonathan Phillips, The Fourth Crusade and the Sack of Constantinople.

Phillips explains in detail what the East knows already and what the West will ashamedly admit: the Fourth Crusade was Christendom's most colossal own-goal.


I enjoyed that book a great deal. I have no idea what the state run propaganda centers spew about the Crusades but the general level of insight of them is at the retarded monkey level.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (y7DUB)

154 IN PRAISE OF LARGE BOOKS: In high school I was constantly checking books out and reading them in class when I shouldn't have been. One time, because there weren't any books left that I wanted to read, I decided to just go with a famous book: Shogun. It wasn't my type of book at all. And, really, it was only good, not great or anything. But for the first time, it took me the whole two weeks I was allowed to check out books to read it. And when I finished it, I had an interesting experience: I didn't know what to do with myself or what to read. I had spent so much time with these characters, that I wanted to keep reading about them. I wasn't able to just switch into another set of characters in another set of circumstances in another story.

Well, Shogun still was only good, but when there are books that do that with stories that I wanted to read at the outset, it's really wonderful. Just wanted to share. That is all.

Posted by: Jim S. at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (ynUnH)

155 Fremdschmen means this:

to feel ashamed about something someone else has done; to be embarrassed because someone else has embarrassed himself (and doesn't notice)

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I'm more of a point and laugh guy myself.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:27 AM (+y/Ru)

156 Dr. T - here is where I recommend Matthew Restall again, When Montezuma Met Cortes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:27 AM (ykYG2)

157 'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle & Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

artemis is a dame ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (arJlL)

158 Unwanted outrage?
1. fauxtrage: word previously used on this site
2. meddler
3. busybody
4. fauteur de troubles (fr.)
5. provocateur

Posted by: Anthony D Clum at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (rTRO+)

159 artemis is a girl's name.

Posted by: jayne cobb at September 22, 2019 10:30 AM (ykYG2)

160 Artemis - Goddess of the hunt, the hills, and the moon

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:30 AM (G546f)

161 I've got a kid in high school and the current doctrine regarding the Spanish in Mexico is:

The Spanish were Bad People because they conquered the virtuous advanced peaceful Aztecs and forced them to adopt Christianity. Human sacrifice barely gets a mention, and since the Mexican allies fighting along side Cortez kind of mess up the narrative, they now bandy about phrases like "biological warfare" to explain the Spanish victory. (How people who didn't have the germ theory of disease could use germs as a weapon is not explained.)

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:31 AM (G02Y7)

162 artemis is a dame ?

I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (qc+VF)

163 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.

Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)

164 How people who didn't have the germ theory of disease could use germs as a weapon is not explained.

It just works.

Posted by: some mongols with a catapult at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (ykYG2)

165 Ha, "The Strenuous Life" is La Vie Intense[//i] in French.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (kQs4Y)

166 Meanwhile the current doctrine about the Crusades is:

The Crusaders were Bad People because they tried to conquer the virtuous advanced peaceful Muslims and force them to adopt Christianity. Happily, they failed, and so the Middle East has been peaceful and progressive ever since.

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (G02Y7)

167 "Towering cities and clamorous teeming populations have conspired to make unknown great men an American tradition." -- Spied on the bathroom wall of George's Middle East Delicatessen, Atlanta Ga.
Posted by: Mike Hammer,

The author musta been doing a number two.

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (arJlL)

168 >> Could not get the page to go to the bottom at first.
Posted by: Vic

Had that problem sometimes when I was in congress.

Posted by: Barney Frank at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (2cuLk)

169 BTW you can get both of those Mark Twain books from Gutenberg for free, but I haven't figured out to post them in my Kindle Fire 10 so it will recognize them,.


You can get every word Twain ever wrote for free on Kindle through Kindle. You don't need to kill yourself converting anything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (FNXDu)

170 Read Oh, God!{/i} by Avery Corman. Published in 1971, it was the source material for the movie of the same title starring John Denver and George Burns. God invites a writer to conduct an interview. Not a light-hearted as the movie, it was a bit more thought-provoking. A quick read. Rating = 3.75/5.0.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (5Yee7)

171 Speaking of pointing and laughing . . .

BIDEN TAUNTS TRUMP: I'LL BEAT HIM LIKE A DRUM

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (+y/Ru)

172 Also, just finished our latest Victorian era reprint: "Eric Brighteyes" by H. Rider Haggard. While Haggard is best known for his adventure stories set in Africa, this one is a recreation of a medieval Viking saga. Tolkien cited it as an influence on Lord of the Rings; it also includes rivalries, intrigues, and a couple of "red weddings" that should appeal to Game of Thrones fans.

http://www.monroestpress.com/What-s-New-.html

Posted by: Secret Square at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (9WuX0)

173 I also read a few Nabokov short stories this week. He was an extremely prolific writer during the 30s in Berlin, although being part of a big time depression and having your adopted country being run by an emerging lunatic can provide a stimulus of sorts. The stories are all small gems, particularly Music about a kind of dilettante who doesn't particularly like music who sees his ex wife, for whom he still has unresolved feelings, at a piano recital.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:35 AM (y7DUB)

174 Cobb's problem is he doesn't know when to stop, so the book keeps on keepin' on to the fall of Constantinople and then Rhodes.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:08 AM (ykYG2)
________

Not sure he should have stopped even that late. Albuquerque thought he was continuing the Crusades when building an empire in the Indian Ocean.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:12 AM (VaN/j)


Raymond Ibrahim's Sword and Scimitar traces the theme through the defeat of the Barbary pirates from 1815-30.

Posted by: cool breeze at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (UGKMd)

175 Fremdschaemen means this:


Please see #80.

It is not a word and we should resist efforts to make it so.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (FNXDu)

176 Bought a Grisham novel for the flight home from MN, which was smart. And, the book itself was pretty good.

"The Reckoning" which I found to be a good read, and, if Grisham truly did his research, made me hate McCarthur for the blunders he made in the defense of the Philippines. And the mistakes recounted were egregious not of the hindsight sort.

Glad I had the Grisham novel because I spent more time at the airport than in the air.

Also working on, "A Bridge too Far" another excellent read and excellent Horde recommendation.

Really glad to be home. Trip was good, but home is better.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (WEBkv)

177 The Spanish were Bad People because they conquered the virtuous advanced peaceful Aztecs and forced them to adopt Christianity

The Spanish were bad people because they conquered the Aztecs and didn't force them to adopt Christianity. They just enslaved errbody and banned the main points of their religion. If more natives had signed onto Christianity proper, that would have cut into the slave lords' profit margin.

The leftover Nahua insisted on converting to Catholicism themselves.

We need a "1531 Project".

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:37 AM (ykYG2)

178 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.

Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers

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Plus there's always a lot of high school girls around.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:37 AM (+y/Ru)

179
Don't know the second word for requited love. Wish I did, too.

Quickie !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:37 AM (arJlL)

180 The Crusaders were Bad People because they tried to conquer the virtuous advanced peaceful Muslims and force them to adopt Christianity. Happily, they failed, and so the Middle East has been peaceful and progressive ever since.
Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:33 AM (G02Y7)

You see this lie everywhere.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 10:39 AM (U7k5w)

181 and on that note, I see I've got a Mass to attend...

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:39 AM (ykYG2)

182 Miley:

someone who gets outraged on behalf of someone else who has not asked for support

White knight?

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:39 AM (yDjHx)

183 Recently finished "Web of Eyes" by Rhett C Bruno. First of the Red Star Rising trilogy, which is one of those super-cheap straight-to-amazon novel series. I nice easy read (I had just abandoned a previous amazon book because of odd syntax/presentation) and a pretty enjoyable story. Working on the second book now.

The most notable aspect of the book was how it subverted the usual high-fantasy story structure. You expect that once the main characters are gathered, they will spend the bulk of the book embarked on their great epic quest. However, as soon as the quest begins, the author started undermining its premises, redefining its goals, or just flat out having his characters abandon it. It was a......unique way of keeping up the suspense. But, as I said, I did enjoy it...

Posted by: Castle Guy at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (Lhaco)

184 The Vagina Museum is closed 365 days a year for cleaning.

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (5IHGB)

185 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.
Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)

McDonalds is too much work for the poor guy.

Somebody better clue A. Rape Brown in on the fact that rape don't pay very well.

Hide your husbands, hide your wives, hide your children, A. Rape Brown is on the loose.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (Z+IKu)

186 The widow of a World War II Navy hero turns 100

Gay is the widow of George Gay, a Navy pilot and decorated hero of the Battle of Midway.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:40 AM (85Gof)

187 One thing I've learned in my studies is that the usual crap about Libertarians being the polar opposite of Marxists is garbage.

[. . . ]


Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 09:45 AM (cfSRQ)

Libertarian is like "liberal". Everyone wants the title and the meaning has changed depending on who is talking about it. The Spanish Anarchist were Anarchy-Synicalists, which is right, they wanted everything run by a non-hierarchical bureaucracy that owned everything and that it was essentially the same sort of mob rule as the San-culottes or the Red Guard should surprise no one.

If you are interested in the history of classic liberalism, you could dip into it by watching videos of Ralph Raico's lectures on the German Liberals, and his discussions on Fascism and Anarcho-syndicalism. He did some very nice one hour lectures that are on Ewe-toob.
His take on Italian Fascism would have been worth buying admission tickets to the event.

He is like that really distant uncle who wears tweed jackets and doesn't warm up well, but would look at your models with you and then out of the blue start telling you about the design history and performance specifications.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 10:41 AM (xG/b0)

188 Is it just me or do others feel a vital element is missing in a lot of these library pictures?

******

Grand Library, Sans People - a limerick

It's cold, methodical and procedural
Geometric and dodecahedral
But there's no people to be had
And that always makes me sad
Like a vacant and decaying cathedral

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 10:41 AM (m45I2)

189 You can get every word Twain ever wrote for free on Kindle through Kindle. You don't need to kill yourself converting anything.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:34 AM (FNXDu)

I don't understand that sentence. You don't need to convert books from Gutenburg. You just have to load them. I used to do that all the time on my old plain Jane Kindle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:42 AM (mpXpK)

190 It is not a word and we should resist efforts to make it so.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:36 AM (FNXDu)

Where were you when you could have been useful?

Posted by: Fernsehapparat at September 22, 2019 10:43 AM (vqIkG)

191 I just bought Battle Officer Wolf. I hope it's good. 19 years ago I read and liked Seamus Heany's Beowulf and might read it again when I'm done with BOF.

Posted by: Oggi at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (Bk5Q+)

192 One thing I've learned in my studies is that the usual crap about Libertarians being the polar opposite of Marxists is garbage.


Belay that shit. I refuse to have my word taken away from me and redefined by people who are opposed to me.

Libertarianism is about maximum practicable power in the hands of the individual. Communism is about total power in the hand of the state. They are in fact opposites.

I don't care what you've "studied". You're reading it wrong.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (FNXDu)

193 148

The charlatans like Sharpton/Obama/Holder used "their people" for their own enrichment, while the inner cities decayed. The heritage of Obama was not "up from slavery", yet he appropriated that victim status based solely on skin color. The left is oh so intent on keeping US divided into their preferred factions, for easier control.
Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 10:25 AM (Cus5s)

Is taxation not a form of slavery. Most worker spend almost 2 months (15% of their time) paying for Social Security. Then middle to upper middle class pay another 2 to 3 months of their time for income taxes. If a government can demand with force the one third or more of the year belongs to them then why not half the year or two thirds of the year?

Everyone of the SJWhores is demanding the government violence be used to control someones lifes or actions. Progressives often look the other way when another Progressive skims off the system (Joe Bidet) yet find whole section of society guilty for their beliefs or their thoughts.

The current white nationalist hue and cry is just another attempt to blame others for the complete and total failure of the Democrat Party (and their leaders) to even try to run towns, cities, and states.

Is there trash on your streets? Then you voted for the wrong person. Are your schools failing (Houston ISD)? Then you have sold your children out for a little power. Do children in your community die from crime and guns? Then you chose that violence for a few extra welfare dollars or free housing.

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (JFO2v)

194 Antonio! Keep your hand on the spatula and off your junk!

Posted by: McD Manager at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (tGsDy)

195 It might be a good time to read or re-read Pete Scweitzer's book about secret empires, I can't remember the exact title, but it will help understand why Joe Biden has really gone on offense about Ukraine. I think the Donald has chosen the perfect target for Joey Choo Choo!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (a4EWo)

196 My proudest awards are not for being a trigger puller, but for being part of the post Katrina/Rita relief effort.
Posted by: Anna Puma

nice !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (arJlL)

197 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.
Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)


I hate the dismissive attitude regarding working at McDonalds because it provides honest employment for kids with good attitudes. Granted the nitbrained progs want it to pay at a ridiculous level because they're economic retards but that's another story...

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

198 I'd mentioned a few months back that I had to stop mid-book while reading my favorite author, Neal Stephenson, due to Rapid Onset Woke Delirium. It was really very depressing and I was at a bit of a loss on pleasure reading.

I'm happy to say that I found some great sci-fi in The Rig by Roger Levy. It is a blend of sci-fi and detective novel and I just loved it. I feel so much better. 5/5 and snap-snap two thumbs up.

Posted by: motionview at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (pYQR/)

199 152 I wonder: was it the colonies that ultimately doomed the Crusading project?

Likely the West would have given up on Constantinople. It was always a bit of an embarrassment to Latin Christendom; I've likened the place to the Imperium of Warhammer 40000.

I think North Africa would have been the next Crusader project, if Spain and Portugal hadn't sailed off west. The Normans took bits of it during the 1000s or 1100s. And then of course France and Italy gobbled a lot of it over the 1800s.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:26 AM (ykYG2)
________

Spain did try to establish in N Africa. They had holdings in what is now Algeria, but couldn't keep them. Portugal mostly had a lot of Gibraltar-type cities all over the African coast, from Ceuta all the way around to Mombasa. Also Oman. They failed to take Aden, though.

It really was directed against Islam.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:46 AM (VaN/j)

200 WC Fields played Micawber in the Freddie Barthollew version of David Copperfield. Fields was a big fan of Dickens and did a great job in the role.

I'm reading The Accidental Diarist by Molly McCarthy. It's the history of books used as planners or diaries in the US. If you've ever collected old ledgers and notebooks, you'd find this interesting.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2019 10:46 AM (Lqy/e)

201 Antonio Brown said hes done playing in the NFL.
Well McDonalds always needs burger flippers
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:32 AM (Rnzal)

I hate the dismissive attitude regarding working at McDonalds because it provides honest employment for kids with good attitudes. Granted the nitbrained progs want it to pay at a ridiculous level because they're economic retards but that's another story...
Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:45 AM (y7DUB)

My intent was not to denigrate McDonalds workers but to laugh at the pay cut brown is about to take.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (Rnzal)

202 I don't understand that sentence. You don't need to convert books from Gutenburg. You just have to load them. I used to do that all the time on my old plain Jane Kindle.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:42 AM (mpXpK)



Jeezuz, Vic. I was responding to this:


BTW you can get both of those Mark Twain books from Gutenberg for free, but I haven't figured out to post them in my Kindle Fire 10 so it will recognize them,.
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 10:21 AM (mpXpK)



You should read your comments some time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (FNXDu)

203
Belay that shit. I refuse to have my word taken away from me and redefined by people who are opposed to me.

Libertarianism is about maximum practicable power in the hands of the individual. Communism is about total power in the hand of the state. They are in fact opposites.

I don't care what you've "studied". You're reading it wrong.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (FNXDu)


I consider myself a classic libertarian as well as a nationalist. I wish for the maximum freedom possible within the limits of our Constitution. I personally don't care much how others choose to live their lives, as long as they don't infringe on my rights or expect me to support or subsidize their behavior.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (TdMsT)

204 I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Artemus Gordon

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (arJlL)

205 106 102 funny reading on vagina museum
https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
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I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)


Heh. Perhaps you should snatch up an admission ticket and find out.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (MH+aB)

206 Medical mystery in Pittsburgh.

3 dead, 4 hospitalized after police called to South Side apartment building

A man was found on 26th and Carson streets at 3:20 a.m. and was taken to Pittsburgh Mercy hospital. One man, who later died, was found in the elevator at South Side City Club Apartments at 4:01 a.m. Two men were found dead in an apartment there at 5:38 a.m., and three others there were taken to Mercy, said Wendell Hissrich, the city's director of public safety.

The four living victims were hospitalized in conditions from critical to serious. All victims were male and wearing orange wristbands.

. . . .

"It is our understanding that the group had attended an outside event where they may have consumed a toxic substance before returning to the apartment."

https://bit.ly/2kWRC92

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

207 So will the vagina museum be particular about who gets in?

Posted by: Trimegistus at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (G02Y7)

208 Rapid Onset Woke Delirium

Charles Stross and Richard Powers are two talented writers who've been afflicted by this. They don't seem to understand that I don't willingly get nagged about anything, particularly ignorantly.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (y7DUB)

209 President Reuven Rivlin demanded on Sunday that both Blue and White and Likud be in the next Government
Rivlin made the statement directly to representatives of Blue and White, who said they want a unity government but have been ruling out Prime Minister and Likud leader Benjamin Netanyahu, because of his pending criminal charges. Rivlin reminded them that Netanyahu has not been indicted.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (Rnzal)

210 Off to mass! Back in about an hour.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (cfSRQ)

211 LadyL-

May I ask you a question ?

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (arJlL)

212 Israel baseball team made history Sunday, securing a spot in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics after defeating South Africa 11-1 in Italy.

Lol G-D must be watching out for his chosen people.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (Rnzal)

213 205 106 102 funny reading on vagina museum
https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
---

I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Heh. Perhaps you should snatch up an admission ticket and find out.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (MH+aB)

These are some bush league comments!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (JFO2v)

214 I thought baseball didn't make the cut for the Olympics. Huh.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (FNXDu)

215 157 'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle & Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

artemis is a dame ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (arJlL

Mr. Gordon will be quite surprised. As will Mr. West.

Posted by: Fox2! at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (MwFQu)

216 I am currently reading the New Girl by Daniel Silva and it is Gooooo-oood !


Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (arJlL)

217 204 I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Artemus Gordon
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (arJlL)

And Artemusk is extremely masculine.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (yDjHx)

218 Having made myself depressed over the Armenian genocide, and the West's ignorance of Islam, I have switched gears and bought a copy of Plain Tales from the Hills (Kipling), and am expecting Cardinal Sarah's new work in tomorrow's mail

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (U7k5w)

219 Off to mass! Back in about an hour.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd

Say one for us !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (arJlL)

220 Artemusk?

Masculine and smelly

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (QSzhg)

221 Liberman refuses to back Netanyahu - or Gantz - for PM
Yisrael Beytenu chief says party will not back Benny Gantz or Binyamin Netanyahu for PM, calls on Gantz not to bring Joint List into gov't.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (Rnzal)

222 My intent was not to denigrate McDonalds workers but to laugh at the pay cut brown is about to take.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (Rnzal)


If Brown and his agent had any sense he'd never have to work a day again; somehow I doubt that's the case. After the Andrew Luck situation my loathing for the NFL is at a new peak. I wish everyone would tell Goodell to fuck off.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (y7DUB)

223 214 I thought baseball didn't make the cut for the Olympics. Huh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (FNXDu)

I thot it was olympic wrestling

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:55 AM (JFO2v)

224 thought baseball didn't make the cut for the Olympics. Huh.
Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (FNXDu)

I think it was reinstated by the Japanese

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (Rnzal)

225 The quality of youth labor has dipped low enough that robot burger flippers are coming soon, in a big way. The machines are not self cleaning. Yet.

Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

226 One thing people forget about the Barbary Pirates is that they got a lease on life because all the naval powers in Europe were at war with one another throughout the 18th C. And the N African states were valuable to them as sources of supply, and occasionally as ports.

After 1815, the hammer came down.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 22, 2019 10:57 AM (VaN/j)

227 The machines are not self cleaning. Yet.
Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

Employees must wash hands. Ye really was think that happens?

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:57 AM (Rnzal)

228 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 10:58 AM (u82oZ)

229 Dickens wrote Little Curiosity Shop as a magazine serial. It appears though, that by the time he wrote next week's entry he had largely forgotten what was in last week's episode.

Disjointed and meandering at best.

It also seems like he bends himself into pretzels trying to make the characters descriptions match their names.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 10:59 AM (m45I2)

230 Are the Lace Wigs Machines for Sale self cleaning?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 11:00 AM (QSzhg)

231 228 Good morning!

Let's smile and be happy and strike fear in the hearts of killjoy leftists everywhere.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 10:58 AM (u82oZ)

Will do.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:00 AM (yDjHx)

232 Late entry because a storm last night knocked my broadband offline.

Looks like I will lead an effort to get fiber-optic cables to my neighborhood.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:00 AM (u82oZ)

233 157 'Ette author 'artemis' has released her 10th Doyle Acton Murder Myster, Murder in the Blood:

artemis is a dame ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:28 AM (arJlL)


Certainement.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (MH+aB)

234 Are the Lace Wigs Machines for Sale self cleaning?


You're thinking of the Ugg boots.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (FNXDu)

235 225: Some are better than others. During my weekly pilgrimage to the grocery store, I got in line behind a woman whose handbag was covered in Warren 2020 stickers. The cashier was a young black woman who seemed a bit shaken by the woman ahead of me. She said she was very proud of having got the cashier job (she was well groomed, polite, efficient) and that no way would she be voting for anyone who believed her job was not worth doing and that she should go back to handouts from the government. She said she did not want her son growing up believing she was a loser. I hope she is a trend and that if she doesn't vote for her own prosperity/work, she will at least stay home.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

236 106 102 funny reading on vagina museum

https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
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I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Sandra Fluke 7-piece luggage set.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (NWiLs)

237 So, Eris and Oregon Muse both use close tags in their nics.

Cheaters.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:02 AM (FNXDu)

238 You're thinking of the Ugg boots.

Not if I can help it, I'm not. C'mon people, it's right there in the name!

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at September 22, 2019 11:02 AM (qc+VF)

239 funny reading on vagina museum
https://tinyurl.com/y6ykm6ex
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:00 AM (JFO2v)
---

I wonder if they have coin purses in the gift shop.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 10:02 AM (kQs4Y)

Heh. Perhaps you should snatch up an admission ticket and find out.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (MH+aB)

Is it in Regina- the Regina Vagina Museum?

Posted by: N.L. Urker. I will urk until I can't urk anymore. at September 22, 2019 11:03 AM (Uu+Jp)

240 That's great CN !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 11:03 AM (arJlL)

241 217 204 I think "Artemis" is feminine while "Artemus" is masculine.

Artemus Gordon
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:48 AM (arJlL)

And Artemusk is extremely masculine.
Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 10:54 AM (yDjHx)

And Artemish is strenuously feminine!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:04 AM (kQs4Y)

242 202 You should read your comments some time.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:47 AM (FNXDu)

I have posted one of their books in every directory on the Kindle Fire 10 and it will not recognize them. I know what I posted.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:04 AM (mpXpK)

243 These are some bush league comments!
Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 10:53 AM (JFO2v)

They could put the museum on line. Call it "Cooternet".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:04 AM (jEgzt)

244 I hope everyone grabs the latest by Artemish.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (m45I2)

245 Artemish

Is that the art antechamber for the vagina museum?

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (QSzhg)

246 The word for requited love: perhaps this is it:
redamancy: the act of loving in return

Posted by: John K Dyer at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (pwgpH)

247 She said she was very proud of having got the cashier job (she was well groomed, polite, efficient) and that no way would she be voting for anyone who believed her job was not worth doing and that she should go back to handouts from the government. She said she did not want her son growing up believing she was a loser. I hope she is a trend and that if she doesn't vote for her own prosperity/work, she will at least stay home.
Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

Nice!......seems that young lady gets it.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (Z+IKu)

248 Read trash SF this week. Section G United Planets by Mack Reynolds, and Invasion: Earth and Star Smashers of the Galaxy Rangers both by Harry Harrison.

Do not recommend. OK only if you are a Section G story completest.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (u82oZ)

249 225
The quality of youth labor has dipped low enough that robot burger
flippers are coming soon, in a big way. The machines are not self
cleaning. Yet.

Posted by: klaftern at September 22, 2019 10:56 AM (RuIsu)

Don't look now but they are already here.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

250 The word for requited love:


Post-coital depression.*





*(phrase stolen from Safire)

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (FNXDu)

251 "Looks like I will lead an effort to get fiber-optic cables to my neighborhood."


That's what we did here at stately VIA Estates.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (cqNba)

252 I guess it's just me.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (m45I2)

253 246 The word for requited love: perhaps this is it:
redamancy: the act of loving in return
Posted by: John K Dyer at September 22, 2019 11:05 AM (pwgpH)

Whoa. That's a $25 word.
From redamo, Latin, "love back."
I think you've got it.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (yDjHx)

254 The four living victims were hospitalized in conditions from critical to serious. All victims were male and wearing orange wristbands.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)


A new cult?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (MH+aB)

255 https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/brian-boyd-the-narcissism-of-taking-offence-by-proxy-1.2583543

Posted by: Mark Snodgrass at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (z4Qw5)

256 "A new cult?"

Party at Ed Buck's house?

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (cqNba)

257 240: It was a Limbaugh worthy moment, and, I think, something the pols have been missing. People do take pride in their independence. I grew up in Michigan when it was ruled by the auto industry. Plenty of the factory workers actually liked their jobs and loved their spare time avocations that were made possible by the work. It wasn't intellectually taxing, but neither is academia these days, but there was a huge sense of pride in supporting yourself and family. I recall these people being denigrated as shop rats and the nonsense about how outsourcing would lead to Americans becoming professional and administrative workers instead...that academic theory has been a fiasco for many.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (U7k5w)

258 254 The four living victims were hospitalized in conditions from critical to serious. All victims were male and wearing orange wristbands.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 22, 2019 10:50 AM (+y/Ru)

A new cult?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (MH+aB)

bad ectasy

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (JFO2v)

259 Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:01 AM (U7k5w)

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With an attitude like that, she won't be working the register for long. Young people worth a damn are hard to find and advance quickly.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (5aX2M)

260 I guess it's just me.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (m45I2)


Heh. Isn't it always?

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (MH+aB)

261 "Looks like I will lead an effort to get fiber-optic cables to my neighborhood."


That's what we did here at stately VIA Estates.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:07 AM (cqNba)

I wonder if fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? Would a thin strand of fiber-optic impede the flow of gas or water enough to matter?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:11 AM (jEgzt)

262
g'mornin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at September 22, 2019 11:11 AM (tr0cb)

263 Nice!......seems that young lady gets it.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at September 22, 2019 11:06 AM (Z+IKu)

Yes she does. A few years back she probably never would have been considered for the job. I was encouraging with no mention of politics. These pussyheaded warren-women are naturally repellant.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:11 AM (U7k5w)

264 Is there anyone here who has successfully loaded a book into a Kindle Fire 10?

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (mpXpK)

265 "the SJWhores is demanding the government violence be used to control
someones lifes or actions. Progressives often look the other way when
another Progressive skims off the system (Joe Bidet) yet find whole
section of society guilty for their beliefs or their thoughts" posted by: rhennigantx

Right, but it is true of the "FreeTrade NeverTrumpers" as well. They pushed bottom line profit above American Liberty, and profited off China slaves and pollution. They are still fighting for open borders and bailouts of the globalist banks.


Liberty (and libertarianism?) requires a lot of civilian involvement in government, a lot of civics taught to children over several years ... our founder's concepts have been "gamed" by the deceivers of all stripes. The digital "industrial" revolution now gave a few the power to track our every action, and the fiat currency gave the banks/money runners the power to chain our children to infinite debt.


This new slavery is insidious, a cancer that has metastasized through most of government, a resident evil. tick tock.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (Cus5s)

266 With an attitude like that, she won't be working the register for long. Young people worth a damn are hard to find and advance quickly.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 22, 2019 11:09 AM (5aX2M)

I hope so.

Posted by: CN at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (U7k5w)

267 When Montezuma Met Cortes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 10:27 AM (ykYG2)




I'll conquer what he's conquering!

Posted by: Francisco Pizarro at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (pqyXj)

268 I like empty libraries. All the books to myself! Bwahahaha!!!!

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (G546f)

269 A new cult?
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:08 AM (MH+aB)

I saw mention made of some new gay + drug fad that is happening.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (jEgzt)

270 Anyone here read William Kent Kreuger? I've been reading his books in sequence and just finished Copper River several Days ago. I thought the first three were very good, Mercy Falls and Copper River, not so much. Read some reviews of next book and it appears Kreger's inner Leftist is coming out with an anti 2A vibe. If true, that'll be it for me.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 11:13 AM (LGXGf)

271 Jeju Island, Korea, has a sex based sculpture park. No idea if there is topiary as well.

So it might not be in the bush league.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 11:14 AM (xG/b0)

272 Flagrante Delicto if someone hadn't posted already.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:14 AM (2DOZq)

273 Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:16 AM (jEgzt)

274 264

https://ebookfriendly.com/download-free-kindle-books/

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:18 AM (JFO2v)

275 Couging it.

When your team, the Cougs, score over 60 points and still lose.

Posted by: Diogenes at September 22, 2019 11:18 AM (QkPts)

276 Greetings:

Speaking of LA and murders and such, I finished "The Lazaurus File" by a guy named McGough. It's about how the LAPD mishandled a 1986 murder investigation of a young bride. The murderer was an LAPD officer who was a previous "girlfriend" of the husband.

Two things stood out for me. One was the power of the Deep State to have things its way (for over 20 years, no less) until a young detective found the "cold case". The other, which the writer reported but different really analyze was all the things the LAPD did to bring in substantial numbers of females into the Department.

Posted by: 11B40 at September 22, 2019 11:18 AM (evgyj)

277 @270 I once heard Wm Kent K speak, and he was ranting about how we are engaged in a "civil war" with these poor people who were trying to cross our southern border. (for someone who's a college professor, he didn't seem to understand what "civil war" meant.)
Didn't even keep the freebie that was gvien out.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:19 AM (AwPyG)

278 "Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".

And then recite it while wearing a Roman Toga and laurel wreath, whilst strumming a lyre small harp thingy.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:20 AM (cqNba)

279 Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:19 AM (AwPyG)

Artemis, your name has been discussed all over this thread.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:20 AM (yDjHx)

280

Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".


**********

In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

281 In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

Bravo!

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (jEgzt)

282 280

Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".


**********

In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

*bows down*

I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (NWiLs)

283 Muldoon is a national treasure.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (cqNba)

284 272 Flagrante Delicto if someone hadn't posted already.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:14 AM (2DOZq)

For what?

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (yDjHx)

285 Israel baseball team made history Sunday, securing a spot in the 2020 Tokyo Olympics after defeating South Africa 11-1 in Italy.

Lol G-D must be watching out for his chosen people.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (Rnzal)

Maybe they have another Sandy Koufax and Hank Greenberg on their team.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (2DOZq)

286 I am currently reading Nine-Tenths
by Meira Pentermann based on a SMBT moron recommendation - nicely paced, review next week.

Posted by: motionview at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (pYQR/)

287 And then recite it while wearing a Roman Toga and laurel wreath, whilst strumming a lyre small harp thingy.


**********

This is a good reason NOT to do MoMe's.

Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:23 AM (m45I2)

288 @244
Thanks Muldoon! You are my hero.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:24 AM (AwPyG)

289 278 "Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".

And then recite it while wearing a Roman Toga and laurel wreath, whilst strumming a lyre small harp thingy.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:20 AM (cqNba)

Possible Titles:
Trim That Bush
Brazilian Deforestation

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:24 AM (JFO2v)

290 Damn that is a cool building.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 22, 2019 11:25 AM (FiUMj)

291 280

Muldoon needs to construct a limerick around "topiary".


**********

In a Perfect World - a limerick

There once was hairy librarian
Who fancied herself a contrarian
She started a push
For perfecting her bush
Some called her a utopiarian
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 11:21 AM (m45I2)

ha!

Posted by: rhennigantx at September 22, 2019 11:25 AM (JFO2v)

292 "This is a good reason NOT to do MoMe's."

Muldoon.

Can you do a William Shatner impression?

Star Trek meets MoMee..

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:25 AM (cqNba)

293 @279
Always lurking!

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

294 274 4. If you have a Kindle ereader - connect Kindle to your computer and drag the files into Documents folder inside the Kindle disc image.


This is what that site says for manually loading books in the Kindle. This does not work on the new Kindle Fire 10.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:27 AM (mpXpK)

295 Just posting this to get it in my name field. What a train wreck of a read if you've got a minute, though. The bit about Randy Weaver is especially fascinating considering the person is ostensibly writing as an ANTI-fascist.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 11:27 AM (9nhoD)

296 264 Is there anyone here who has successfully loaded a book into a Kindle Fire 10?
Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 11:12 AM (mpXpK)

I mail it as an attachment in either .mobi or pdf to my kindle email with the word CONVERT in the subject line

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:29 AM (G546f)

297 Village Idiot's Apprentice

Top o ta mornin to ya, gov'nor.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (u82oZ)

298 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

299 @215
You guys realize the original Artemis is a dame, right?

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:31 AM (AwPyG)

300 @277: That's interesting. Thanks for saving me some time that I can spend reading other authors who aren't compelled to introduce their politics into their novels. Prior to Copper River I read The Rule of Law by John Lescroart. What a Dumpster fire. Pro illegal immigrant, I.C.E bad, evil people. No attempt to even be fair in terms of presenting both sides. Just started reading Harlan Coben...hope he doesn't screw it up, too.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 11:31 AM (LGXGf)

301 298 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

hahahaha

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:31 AM (yDjHx)

302 I read the linked article about Cortez, and his final victory over the Aztec armies on the plain at Otumba, where Cortez and an army of probably less than 1,000 men defeated an Aztec Army of 200,000 by charging directly for the Aztec Leader. I wonder if Cortez had read of Alexander and Gaugamela, or if he just had the same insight under similar circumstances. Alexander was outnumbered 400,000 to 50,000, but he and his personal cavalry led a charge straight at Darius in the center. When Darius panicked and fled the battlefield, the rest of the Persian army collapsed into confusion and was routed. Similarly, once Cortez took out the Aztec leader, the Aztec army lost all command and control and scattered.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (V2Yro)

303 283 Muldoon is a national treasure.
Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at September 22, 2019 11:22 AM (cqNba)


He shoulda somehow worked in 'artemis', then it woulda been perfect.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (MH+aB)

304 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

Roger the Shrubber! Paging Roger the Shrubber. Please pick up the white courtesy phone.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (jEgzt)

305 You guys realize the original Artemis is a dame, right?

I was diana say that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 11:32 AM (FNXDu)

306 @300 It may be that their publishers are pushing them? My daughter's father in law is the biggest Jack Reacher fan on the planet, and he said he'll never read him again after his book went all social justice.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:33 AM (AwPyG)

307 295 Just posting this to get it in my name field. What a train wreck of a read if you've got a minute, though. The bit about Randy Weaver is especially fascinating considering the person is ostensibly writing as an ANTI-fascist.
Posted by: Moron Robbie - Far Cry 5 ignores Montana's history of fascism and its victims: alt-wrong at September 22, 2019 11:27 AM (9nhoD)

His main complaint appears to be that the highly progtarded premises contained in FC5 are insufficiently woke for his taste.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:33 AM (NWiLs)

308 I think Harlan Cohen is a good guy--he and his wife are very involved in charitable giving in the Chicago area. I haven't read him, though.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:34 AM (AwPyG)

309 296 it comes back as a Document and if you don't see it on your Home screen you can look for it in Docs under Send-to-Kindle

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:34 AM (G546f)

310 298 Sorry the Vagina Museum is closed today for RE-FUR_BUSHING.
Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:30 AM (5IHGB)

Got to wax the floors.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 22, 2019 11:34 AM (NWiLs)

311 ...and just what is Sundays improve your vocabulary word today?

IS


depends what it means

Posted by: saf at September 22, 2019 11:35 AM (5IHGB)

312 Alberta Oil Peon
"fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? "

Technically, yes in water. But it will be much more expensive, and results in two separate utility entries fighting over repair, capacity, and maintenance.

Electrical signal booster boxes near gas lines? Do not recommend.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:36 AM (u82oZ)

313 Insomniac

Find the kets so we can drive out.

A Sandra Fluke punchline.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:37 AM (u82oZ)

314 Well done, Muldoon and saf.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:37 AM (kQs4Y)

315 Looking above at the discussion of getting Twain to your Kindle, I've read many books from Gutenberg.org. Never tried to transfer a file directly to the device. What I did was email to my Kindle address.

You can get that from your Amazon account. Log in, choose Your Content and Devices, click the Devices tab, then click the device and it will display the email address associated with it.

Posted by: John Taloni at September 22, 2019 11:38 AM (/Nhc5)

316 Electrical signal booster boxes near gas lines? Do not recommend.
Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:36 AM (u82oZ)

My gas meter now at home has an electrical box on it to send usage data to the co-op via the cell network.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (jEgzt)

317 Thanks Mssr Taloni, I did not know that!

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (kQs4Y)

318 VIA, anything special about your cable install?

You can email me your letter that started it all off, please.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (u82oZ)

319 Always lurking!
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:26 AM (AwPyG)


This makes me happy.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (MH+aB)

320 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This occurs in almost every new release.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)

321 229 Dickens wrote Little Curiosity Shop as a magazine serial. It appears though, that by the time he wrote next week's entry he had largely forgotten what was in last week's episode.

Disjointed and meandering at best.

It also seems like he bends himself into pretzels trying to make the characters descriptions match their names.
Posted by: Muldoon at September 22, 2019 10:59 AM (m45I2)

This book was the source of one of Oscar Wilde's most memorable quotes. The book's climax at the end is the Death of "Little Nell", which is related in the most overwrought intentionally tear jerking way. A critic of the day had written "A man would have to have a heart of stone not to cry at the death of Little Nell."

To which Oscar Wilde countered, "On the contrary, one must have a heart of stone to read the Death of Little Nell without laughing!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:41 AM (V2Yro)

322 319 Always lurking!
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:26 AM (AwPyG)

This makes me happy.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:39 AM (MH+aB)

Hear tell she's a goddess.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:41 AM (yDjHx)

323 By happenstance ...

Posted by: Always Late at September 22, 2019 11:42 AM (3XdZI)

324 @300 It may be that their publishers are pushing them?+++++Yeah, I've often wondered about this. To the point, in fact, that I've speculated that many rock-ribbed conservative writers are never published at all. Even though one would think that revenue would be the big motivator, with the Left, dogma is everything. I, too, thought the early Jack Reacher novels were outstanding. Though I'll still read them, they are not nearly as good as they once were.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 11:44 AM (LGXGf)

325 'Hap' is also the origin of HAPPY, which originally referred to people or events that appeared to be blessed with good fortune.




Well I never kept a dollar past sunset

It always burned a hole in my pants

Never made a school mama happy

Never blew a second chance, oh no



I need a love to keep me happy

I need a love to keep me happy

Baby, baby keep me happy

Baby, baby keep me happy

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 11:44 AM (S6/o1)

326
I wonder if fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? Would a thin strand of fiber-optic impede the flow of gas or water enough to matter?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon


It would be difficult to repair a broken cable.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

327 Artemis - Goddess of the hunt, the hills, and the moon

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 10:30 AM (G546f)



And James West's partner in the Wild Wild West

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (S6/o1)

328
211 LadyL-

May I ask you a question ?
Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 10:52 AM (arJlL)


Are you still here, JT?

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (TdMsT)

329 Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

330 Happy:
Weird Al, "Tacky" parody of "Happy"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zq7Eki5EZ8o
Which is hilarious.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (yDjHx)

331 316 Alberta Oil Peon

Heh. I was wrong. Thanks, Alberta Oil Peon.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (u82oZ)

332 329 Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

The unfavorable references to bad characters are usually gratuitous. I feel as if I'm surrounded by hate.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (TdMsT)

333 @324
I teach workshops for aspiring authors, and I explain that it all depends on what your goal is. If you want to be published in NY, you have to come up with a story that would be appealing to a Manhattanite. If you want to write romance or science fiction (where all the voracious readers are) self-publish and get on kindle.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 11:49 AM (AwPyG)

334 https://www.larryelder.com/news/getting-real-about-reparations-by-roger-d-mcgrath/

Check out roger McGrath on reparations
Some darn good history

Posted by: Sam at September 22, 2019 11:49 AM (UoOyP)

335 It would be difficult to repair a broken cable.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

OTOH, cables would be less likely to break, because protected inside a pipe.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 22, 2019 11:50 AM (jEgzt)

336 Chores await.

Thank you, OregonMuse.

The book thread is the ne plus ultra of AoSHQ threads, IMHO.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (u82oZ)

337 I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

I've noticed something along the same lines in British TV series and movies over the last 20 years (and here in America too, although it seems more prevalent over there) If it's a murder mystery or something similar, and they introduce a character with a clerical collar early on, then you know he's going to be revealed as the killer at the end. It's so predictable that if I was watching something where a character like this was introduced, I'd just fast forward to the end to see if I was right, and I always was. Yawn.

Hey script writers - it's not a "big surprise" if you try to pull off the same "big surprise" 50 or 60 times in a row.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (V2Yro)

338 I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

this has been going on for a long time in fantasy and sf fiction - villains are rednecks or right wing businessmen or Christians

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (G546f)

339 320 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This occurs in almost every new release.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)


Ah yes, the "'Law and Order' syndrome", just like you see on TV!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:52 AM (EhCx2)

340 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is
unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a
character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This
occurs in almost every new release.

Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)


that is because referring to him a Jew with a hooked nose clutching a money bag and stroking his beard is a little too obvious.

Posted by: Kindltot at September 22, 2019 11:52 AM (xG/b0)

341 Who woulda thunk we Finns can't read. Arvo and Toivo beg to differ.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at September 22, 2019 11:52 AM (C1Lsn)

342 Posted by: NaCly Dog at September 22, 2019 11:51 AM (u82oZ)

( *blushes* )

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 11:53 AM (EhCx2)

343
Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared
toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them
expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil
character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!

Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)


Hollywood: Sounds familiar...

Posted by: TheQuietMan at September 22, 2019 11:56 AM (S6/o1)

344 Just finished True Grit. Damn that is a great read.

Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (GrQSw)

345 326
I wonder if fiber-optic cable could be blown into existing water or gas mains? Would a thin strand of fiber-optic impede the flow of gas or water enough to matter?
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

It would be difficult to repair a broken cable.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 22, 2019 11:45 AM (aKsyK)

Most mind blowing repair attempt I ever knew of (and they ended up getting it done within 24 hours); where I live about 20 -25 years ago all the data links for the entire city came in from one major trunk line buried under a highway right of way, which had 2400 separate fiber optic cables in it. Well Jethro who lived about 5 miles out of town wanted to build a new driveway to his mobile home, and he figured all those signs saying "CALL THIS NUMBER BEFORE DIGGING HERE!!!" were meant for other people, not him, so he went all the way through that cable with a backhoe. (He said he thought it was just a big tree root)

All 2400 of those fiber-optic lines had to be matched and spliced before anyone in the city could have internet access again.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (V2Yro)

346 Just starting A Republic, If You Can Keep it byNeil Gorsuch. He is a great and humble man who loves America deeply.

Posted by: LASue at September 22, 2019 12:00 PM (Ed8Zd)

347 @343
and the NFL, too. It's always interesting to me that the players, actors or authors know they will make more money if they just keep their politics to themselves, can't help themselves. To me, it's a big clue that they hold their followers in contempt.

Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 12:01 PM (AwPyG)

348 I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)


It probably won't do any good. The publishing industry is run by depressed, middle-aged feminists who are all trying to burnish their woke credentials. There's all kinds of woke/sjw/diversity guidelines that books must be written in accordance with, otherwise they simply won't get published.

What you need to do is to stop buying them. When an author you're reading goes woke, that should be the last book of theirs you should by. Don't make a big public, virtual-signalling stink about it, just spend your money elsewhere.

It's what I do with TV. As soon as a show starts showing explicit sex or introduces a homosexual plot or subplot, click, off it goes. Netflix or Amazon Prime can probably look into my account and see when I stop watching their shows. If they were interested in knowing.

Try to find books recommended by normal people. I would suggest the, ahem, AoSHQ Sunday Morning Book Thread as a good source for this.

IMO.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:02 PM (EhCx2)

349 332 329 Ladyl, I have noticed the same disturbing trend in new novels geared toward females, even British authors. I have written to a few of them expressing my feelings on the matter. I dislike that every evil character in their books is conservative or an evil Republican!
Posted by: Debby Doberman Schultz at September 22, 2019 11:46 AM (a4EWo)

The unfavorable references to bad characters are usually gratuitous. I feel as if I'm surrounded by hate.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:48 AM (TdMsT)

I hate it too. Forget that it's presumptuous and insulting to half your audience -- it's jarring and takes me out of the story.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

350 344 Just finished True Grit. Damn that is a great read.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (GrQSw)


Right? This is why I like the Coen Bros. film version. It sticks pretty close to the book.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (EhCx2)

351 With the British authors, it's not just scorning Conservatives and assuming Liberal Party membership for your "good" characters. One must praise the NHS.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

352 What you need to do is to stop buying them. When an author you're reading goes woke, that should be the last book of theirs you should by. Don't make a big public, virtual-signalling stink about it, just spend your money elsewhere.

==

a negative review on Amazon is helpful feedback
just don't use your real name in case the author 's rabud fans doxx you

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:05 PM (G546f)

353 One must praise the NHS.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (kQs4Y)

:eyeroll:

so creepy
I didn't realize how creepy the NHS cult was until the 2012 Olympics

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:06 PM (G546f)

354 I would suggest the, ahem, AoSHQ Sunday Morning Book Thread as a good source for this.
---

But the COB is so agenda-driven! He can be insufferable.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)

355 296 I mail it as an attachment in either .mobi or pdf to my kindle email with the word CONVERT in the subject line

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 11:29 AM (G546f)

Could not get that to work either. I'll try again later.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:08 PM (mpXpK)

356 But the COB is so agenda-driven!


It's pants pants pants all the time an oppression of les sans culottes.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:09 PM (FNXDu)

357 But the COB is so agenda-driven! He can be insufferable.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:08 PM (kQs4Y)


I know, he's a big pain in the butt. Just ask his wife!

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:09 PM (EhCx2)

358 Are we going to host an Olympics during the Reign of Trump? It might be nice to have an opening ceremony that's upbeat, optimistic, and doesn't wallow in self-flagellation.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:10 PM (kQs4Y)

359 350
344 Just finished True Grit. Damn that is a great read.
Posted by: Puddin Head at September 22, 2019 11:59 AM (GrQSw)

Right? This is why I like the Coen Bros. film version. It sticks pretty close to the book.


Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:04 PM (EhCx2)


I liked the John Wayne version better because the new one was so depressing.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:10 PM (mpXpK)

360 @352a negative review on Amazon is helpful feedback+++++
True. I find that reading the three or even two star reviews weeds out the groupies and gets you a fairer appraisal of the book in question.

Posted by: Old Dude at September 22, 2019 12:11 PM (LGXGf)

361 Vic, fyi I just realized you said kindle fire 10 - I have a fire 8

the emailing thing has always worked for me on any kindle reader though

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:11 PM (G546f)

362 While 102 minutes seems to be a good book, trust me, Jim Dwyer is a leftist piece of trash reporter.

Posted by: mercenary13 at September 22, 2019 12:12 PM (Ur9Bc)

363 @343
and the NFL, too. It's always interesting to me that the players, actors or authors know they will make more money if they just keep their politics to themselves, can't help themselves. To me, it's a big clue that they hold their followers in contempt.
Posted by: artemis at September 22, 2019 12:01 PM (AwPyG)


Some might do it because they believe it. Others are trying to keep the crocodile busy. They will turn on each other at the slightest hint of insufficient wokeness, and they have a quota to keep.

Posted by: hogmartin will be sad if you don't register for the fall MIMoMe at September 22, 2019 12:12 PM (t+qrx)

364 2020 (Summer): Tokyo, Japan.
2022 (Winter): Beijing, China.
2024 (Summer): Paris, France.
2026 (Winter): TBD.
2028 (Summer): Los Angeles, United States.

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 12:12 PM (yDjHx)

365 I did a review off a Michelle Malkin book on Amazon one time. The only book review I ever done. I got so much shit from liberal assholes I never reviewed another.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:13 PM (mpXpK)

366 Like I was saying

Posted by: hogmartin sometimes forgets to reset his nick at September 22, 2019 12:13 PM (t+qrx)

367 The company I work for has been putting in fiber optics lines in any utility ditch they have access to. We have several new rural areas with fiber now. Individual cables are about the thickness of a hair. And every fiber optic cut I've been through was a 24 hour repair. I think I've seen six in my career, at a couple of different companies. Current company now has redundancy, so we are usually up when the other companies aren't.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at September 22, 2019 12:13 PM (Lqy/e)

368 361
Vic, fyi I just realized you said kindle fire 10 - I have a fire 8



the emailing thing has always worked for me on any kindle reader though

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:11 PM (G546f)

The bad thing I think is that it is a new version. I used to manually load books on my old Kindle and on my Samsung e-reader no problem.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:14 PM (mpXpK)

369 Like I was saying

As I was saying.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, who grammar-nazis when bored at September 22, 2019 12:16 PM (FNXDu)

370 so creepy

I didn't realize how creepy the NHS cult was until the 2012 Olympics
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at September 22, 2019 12:06 PM (G546f)


Yeah, we used to watch the Brit show 'Call The Midwife', and for the first couple of seasons, they always found some reason to have one of the characters tell the audience how wonderful the NHS is. Every. Single. Episode. It was like it was a requirement from the BBC that they had to follow.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:16 PM (EhCx2)

371 new one

Posted by: m at September 22, 2019 12:17 PM (yDjHx)

372 It's what I do with TV. As soon as a show starts showing explicit sex or introduces a homosexual plot or subplot, click, off it goes. Netflix or Amazon Prime can probably look into my account and see when I stop watching their shows. If they were interested in knowing.

I quit netflix completely about a year ago, and I haven't missed it. At all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (V2Yro)

373 Nood.

Posted by: olddog in mo at September 22, 2019 12:19 PM (gzG43)

374 372 I quit netflix completely about a year ago, and I haven't missed it. At all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 22, 2019 12:18 PM (V2Yro)

My wife signed up for that without consulting me. I watched one program that was "made for Netflix". Never watched another. Their movies were all old ones that if I liked them I already had them on disk.

Posted by: Vic at September 22, 2019 12:20 PM (mpXpK)

375 Midsommer Murders can be an enjoyable show. But yeah Christian faith does get short shift oft times.

The hen-pecked minister who had a fling in his youth finds out who killed his illegitimate child and thus becomes an avenging angel.

Or a child who might have a gift for second sight and the minister is determined to save the baby from Hell no matter whom he must kill.

A series of grisly murders carried out by a jilted lover. The minister turns out to be the former gay lover of the local landed noble.

Even a female minister gets in on sin by illegally entering a house to find the dirt.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (QSzhg)

376 358 Are we going to host an Olympics during the Reign of Trump? It might be nice to have an opening ceremony that's upbeat, optimistic, and doesn't wallow in self-flagellation.
Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:10 PM (kQs4Y)


I'd do anything if it would get us an Olympic opening ceremony with this in it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jVToLGzZdXE

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (EhCx2)

377 I knew it would be Trumpus Imperator, OM!

God, how I would love for the Blue Angels to fly overhead leaving red, white, and blue contrails as Maximus enters the coliseum.

Posted by: All Hail Eris, Michigangsta at September 22, 2019 12:27 PM (kQs4Y)

378 I'd do anything if it would get us an Olympic opening ceremony with this in it:


I'm not usually one of the Big Tech Hates Us guys, but the first caption here is "RT is funded in whole or in part by the Russian government".

What about the name Russian Television confused you, Sparky?

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:28 PM (FNXDu)

379 365 Going that far would only encourage me more

Posted by: Skip at September 22, 2019 12:30 PM (ZCEU2)

380 Belay that shit. I refuse to have my word taken away from me and redefined by people who are opposed to me.



Libertarianism is about maximum practicable power in the hands of
the individual. Communism is about total power in the hand of the state.
They are in fact opposites.



I don't care what you've "studied". You're reading it wrong.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 10:44 AM (FNXDu)

----
It's not "your word." It's reality.

Politics, like nature, abhors a vacuum. Libertarianism believes that if state power is curbed, somehow (miraculously?) individuals our groups of them outside of the state won't take over that space.

We're now seeing that first-hand.

Instead of the state, syndicates have gained the commanding heights of society and decide what we can and cannot say, also what we can and cannot buy.

This is consistent with the end-state of Libertarian Communism, with a vanguard leadership being the leaders of interlocking syndicates.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 12:33 PM (cfSRQ)

381 My wife, the lovely and gracious Annalucia, and I are reading aloud Rick Atkinson's "The British Are Coming", which is the first volume in what will be a trilogy on the Revolutionary War. Volume 1 covers the lead-up to Lexington/Concord in 1775 through Princeton in 1777. Atkinson points out the atrocities and blunders on both sides, but it's clear that his heart is with the Patriots. And he spins a cracking good yarn. Highly recommended!

Posted by: Borwn Line at September 22, 2019 12:36 PM (S6ArX)

382 Keith Richards is more well-read than you think and has a particular interest in military history --especially the American Civil War. Mick Jagger is and always has been a voracious reader too.

I don't know why people are surprised.

For all the trappings of the rock star life that they are now known for, these guys grew up and were educated in 1940's and 1950's Britain and must have regularly gone to the library and been assigned all sorts of books.

Posted by: Joe Biden at September 22, 2019 12:37 PM (NFEMn)

383 Off Joe Biden sock.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 22, 2019 12:37 PM (NFEMn)

384 Jagger studied at the London School of Economics.

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (FNXDu)

385 Nothing but Deuteronomy this past week, for a Bible study. With luck, this week will be lighter on work, and I'll be able to wrap up the last Perry Mason novel I got from 5he library.

I actually walked out of a used-book store yesterday without buying anything. I did consider getting one Keith Laumer collection but decided that I need to thin the TBR stack first. Besides, I don't think that book will be going anywhere anytime soon.

Posted by: Weak Geek at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (zbyVY)

386 Muldoon gets extra stars for use of dodecahedral.

As usual these days, I get caught up on comments just as the Horde scurries on to the next thread. Well, better read than read.

Posted by: mindful webworker at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (GWm7j)

387 "I'm in book 7 of Herodotus and, once you get through his magical mystery
tour of the world in the early books and he talks about things he's
more familiar with, he's a very engaging writer at least in translation."
Captain, are you reading the Landmark edition of Herodotus? If not, I suggest you look into it. You probably can get a used copy for relatively little. The maps and footnotes in Landmark are a great help to the modern reader (or to me, anyway) in keeping what is literally a cast of thousands straight.
Also, if you like Book 7, just wait till you gt to Thermopylae and Salamis!

Posted by: Borwn Line at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (S6ArX)

388 375
Midsommer Murders can be an enjoyable show. But yeah Christian faith does get short shift oft times.



Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 12:23 PM (QSzhg)

---
A certain type of person looks at people of faith and says: "They don't *really* buy into that."

It's largely a failure of imagination. People look at the evil within themselves and assume everyone else is worse.

See also: feminists thinking conservative men must be worse than the pervert "feminist men" they surround themselves with.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at September 22, 2019 12:43 PM (cfSRQ)

389 a vanguard leadership being the leaders of interlocking syndicates.

ROLEERBALL! ROLLERBALL!

Posted by: Pendulous Richard at September 22, 2019 12:47 PM (UFLLM)

390 @215
You guys realize the original Artemis is a dame, right?
Posted by: artemis

I do now !

Posted by: JT at September 22, 2019 12:56 PM (arJlL)

391 Captain, are you reading the Landmark edition of Herodotus? If not, I suggest you look into it. You probably can get a used copy for relatively little. The maps and footnotes in Landmark are a great help to the modern reader (or to me, anyway) in keeping what is literally a cast of thousands straight.
Also, if you like Book 7, just wait till you gt to Thermopylae and Salamis!

Posted by: Borwn Line at September 22, 2019 12:42 PM (S6ArX)


I've got a library copy of the Landmark that I use for maps and illustrations while reading an Oxford translation which has pretty good footnotes. Thanks for the advice anyway, though.

Posted by: Captain Hate at September 22, 2019 01:33 PM (y7DUB)

392 I didn't see anyone post it but I think the word they're looking for requited love is redamancy.

Posted by: Grue at September 22, 2019 01:40 PM (ks/TQ)

393 Sam at September 22, 2019 11:49 AM (UoOyP)

I knew some of the facts concerning slavery in the US but the extent of Cherokee, etc. slave-owning was much greater than I thought. McGrath does a great job of pointing out the lies in modern "education" that youngsters are being force-fed these days.

Posted by: Grannymimi at September 22, 2019 01:42 PM (u5LFV)

394 "I'm talking about the Aztecs, of course, and whatever you think about Hernando Cortez, he did the world a favor by eliminating them as a regional threat. Personally, I believe that God frequently uses evil men to stop other men who are even more evil, so the end result is a net increase in human happiness"

That is complete nonsense. One can pile up all the people sacrificed by the Aztecs and it would amount to a fraction of a fraction of a fraction for the body count of Hapsburg Spain. They waged war from the Mississippi to the Rio Plata, from Spain to Hungary, and eagerly practiced their own form of human sacrifice in the immolations of the auto-da-fe. The Aztecs might not have been cuddly New Age-types, but they didn't apply their savagery across four continents.
"Net increase in human happiness..." ridiculous.

Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (AvdK2)

395 And boulder t'hobo....
....
Mathew Restall is an excellent source. Very good.
What the Mexica and the Maya adopted was not a pristine Catholicism, but rather an invented syncretism of Catholic and Native religions. The Virgin of Guadelupe started out as an Aztec Goddess. Saint Simon is a baptized Maya God, God L, Ek Chuah. To the missionaries of the time, it was good enough.

Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:17 PM (AvdK2)

396 I don't think the Spanish have a word like xochiyaoyotl in their vocabulary but the Aztecs did. To have ritual wars with neighboring tribes to ensure there were enough sacrifices from captured prisoners for the altars and then dress it all up by calling it a Flowery War.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 22, 2019 02:28 PM (QSzhg)

397 "I don't think the Spanish have a word like xochiyaoyotl in their vocabulary but the Aztecs did."

Northern Europe did! It's "Tournament", as interpreted circa 1200 AD.

This is mentioned in Jonathan Phillips in the leadup to the Fourth Crusade, another instance where stupid infighting cityfolk invite thousands of armed, hungry, and frightened Catholics into their homes.

The moral of the story is: don't do that. At least not without a Plan B.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 03:18 PM (ykYG2)

398 Admittedly Europeans weren't in the habit of sacrificing the losers of a tournament, like Mesoamericans were. Let's just say that in the Maya NBA, the trophy for the second placed team was the second placed team...

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 03:20 PM (ykYG2)

399 "Net increase in human happiness..." ridiculous.
Posted by: Keith Eppich


I disagreed with you in an earlier Book Thread on this topic, but post-Restall I've come around to agreeing with you that the Conquest wasn't worth the slaughter.

Now, as for whether Restall is "excellent", he miscounted the sacrificial actions of the Mexica (and other Nahua! Tlaxcala was just as bad) and, as Anna Puma pointed out, the general psychotic dysfunction of Mesoamerican society. Antonio Brown has not, to my knowledge, been sacrificed on top of a pyramid in Boston for being an ass.

Also as Tom Servo has mentioned, which Restall failed to mention (properly), the Battle of Otompan was a thing. It proves that Cortes wasn't the beta male that Restall had portrayed up to then. Restall needs to answer for his own unethical behaviour, for omitting that, or at least for relegating it to a sneer on "picture #6".

I am hoping that a synthesis can be made, and a true biography of Cortes can be written.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 22, 2019 03:50 PM (ykYG2)

400 Battle Officer Wolf? Apparently it isn't printed.

Posted by: hooodathunkit at September 22, 2019 04:42 PM (rsewL)

401
The Fabulous Clipjoint, first published in 1947, is a noir thriller and Edgar Award-winner by master mystery and science fiction author Fredric Brown (1906-1972). The book centers on a young man's search for the killer or killers of his father, which the police have dismissed as a random murder in a Chicago back-alley. The Fabulous Clipjoint, Brown's first full-length novel, is the first book in a series of 7 featuring the nephew and uncle team of detectives Ed and Ambrose Hunter.
Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at September 22, 2019 09:15 AM (FXjhj)

Interesting! I'll have to see if I can find these. Thanks, Hans!

Posted by: Gem at September 22, 2019 04:46 PM (XoAz8)

402 88
That Finnish library image made me think: it's a Baroque interior, but
somehow we can tell just by looking at it that it's a Northern culture
rather than Mediterranean. I can't put my finger on any specific detail,
but you just know that interior's north of the Alps.
Trimegistus-
thought for a moment I was back in St. Petersburg, Russia when I saw the library so yes it does have the north of the alps look.

Posted by: Charlotte at September 22, 2019 04:48 PM (Rwqrz)

403 Miley might be thinking of VAUNTPARLER. The definition doesn't quite fit, but it is fun to say. There's also outrage appropriation and offense-by-proxy.

Posted by: Abby Normal at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (zLLOw)

404 320 I read a lot of fiction geared to women. It is unbelievable how frequently the writers/ editors, when describing a character in a negative light, will call him/her a Republican. This occurs in almost every new release.
Posted by: Ladyl at September 22, 2019 11:40 AM (TdMsT)

This has been going on for twenty years.

Posted by: Gem at September 22, 2019 05:21 PM (XoAz8)

405 The Aztecs might not have been cuddly New Age-types, but they didn't apply their savagery across four continents.
"Net increase in human happiness..." ridiculous.
Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (AvdK2)


Sorry, greedy murderous Spaniards plus murderous, cannibalistic Aztecs minus murderous, cannibalistic Aztecs equals greedy murderous Spaniards alone. That's still a net plus.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 05:25 PM (EhCx2)

406 The Aztecs might not have been cuddly New Age-types, but they didn't apply their savagery across four continents.
Posted by: Keith Eppich at September 22, 2019 02:11 PM (AvdK2)


I'm
sure this would've been a great source of comfort to the surrounding
tribes whom the Aztecs regularly raided for sacrificial victims.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at September 22, 2019 05:31 PM (EhCx2)

407 Well hell OM, it seems the book thread has gone a bit downhill.

heh

Posted by: weirdflunky at September 22, 2019 05:57 PM (cknjq)

408 "the opposite of unrequited love" = sex

Though that might not be as close to accurate for women as it is for men.

Yes, another difference between men and women!

GF (who actually loves me) said (after the opposite of unrequited love): "Sometimes I love your _____ more than I love you," to which I responded "heh heh."

Then I opined to her that: "If a man said that to a woman she would cry." She said "true." And we both laughed.

Posted by: Alec Rawls at September 22, 2019 06:25 PM (wh9C3)

409 Synonym for "Requited Love": Redamancy

Posted by: Greg Hamlin at September 22, 2019 08:22 PM (huT5s)

410 I finished Memoirs of Pontius Pilate: A Novel by James R. Adams. This is a real "snowball" book -- the author takes his time setting up the background history of Pilate's rule as procurator and his meeting with Jesus Christ, but once it is in place, the book really moves. I never knew how many "messiahs" came before Jesus, which probably explains Pilate's initial flippant attitude toward Him.

Also Twenty Years on Broadway (And the Years It Took to Get There) by George M. Cohan.

As serialized in Liberty magazine in 1924. I originally read seven of the 10 installments years ago, but decided to reread it now that I have it complete.

It's a rollicking read, and a marvelous evocation of the vaudeville and theater world in the late 19th and early 20th century. I loved George's account of his parents Jerry and Nellie Cohan, and how he and his sister Josephine were gradually integrated into their act. Something I didn't know: Josephine was the only member of the family who worked steadily, and supported her whole family for a season on the road. Cohan loved his parents, and he especially loved Josie, who was a real confidante to him. It's fun and touching to see that love manifested in their stage work. They had a lot of fun together.

Having seen the movie Yankee Doodle Dandy, I recognized most of the scenes and some of the dialogue in the book. The screenwriters really leaned heavily on this account of Cohan's life for the movie.

Posted by: DynamiteDan at September 22, 2019 09:04 PM (jMtvt)

411 Last! Meh, probably not. I haven't been able to make it here in the morning, so...

Latest acquisition is 'Operation Overflight', regarding Gary Power's U-2 mission. This is an unsolicited loan by a friend, so we shall see.

Then, there is the recently obtained 'Mr, Finchley Discovers His England', awaiting the finish of the current Wodehouse bedtime reading.

So many books, so little time. I continue the enjoyable slog through 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb'. Fascinating book.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at September 22, 2019 09:13 PM (xSo9G)

412 Miley might be thinking of VAUNTPARLER. The
definition doesn't quite fit, but it is fun to say. There's also
outrage appropriation and offense-by-proxy.

Posted by: Abby Normal at September 22, 2019 05:11 PM (zLLOw)

This is the one I recalled! As you say, the meaning doesn't capture the effrontery portion of the meaning. But thank you for the help!

Posted by: Miley, the Duchess at September 22, 2019 10:41 PM (NMAzL)

413 In The Shadow of the Sword.. The best and almost only book on the earliest origins and spread of Islam. Easy read good references.

Posted by: tom at September 23, 2019 12:16 PM (0Wm6r)

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