Federal Appeals Court Reverses Illegally-Light Sentence Lower Judge Gave to Rand Paul's Attacker;<br>Lower Judge Had Given Him an Impermissibly Short Sentence Because He Was "Educated"

Federal Appeals Court Reverses Illegally-Light Sentence Lower Judge Gave to Rand Paul's Attacker;
Lower Judge Had Given Him an Impermissibly Short Sentence Because He Was "Educated"

Federal prosecutors appealed this sentence as not permitted by federal sentencing guidelines. The appeals court agreed, and scolded the lower judge for illegally using the criterion that the attacker was "educated" as a reason for going outside the guidelines to give him the lightest of all taps on the wrist.

He could have gotten ten years; this judge sentenced him to merely 30 days. After all, he wasn't deplorable -- he had a "good background" and "education."

Boucher was originally charged with misdemeanor assault under Kentucky law, but the state charges were dropped in lieu of a federal felony prosecution. Boucher could have received up to 10 years in prison for an assault of a member of Congress that inflicted personal injury, but prosecutors sought 21 to 27 months in light of his acceptance of responsibility.
District Court judge Marianne O. Battani instead sentenced Boucher to only 30 days, arguing that Boucher had an "excellent background," was "an educated person," and "participated in the community in [his medical] practice and in [his] church." The Clinton-appointed judge also cited the character witnesses who testified on Boucher's behalf, including his pastor and the developer of his gated community.
Prosecutors appealed the case, arguing that the light sentence was "substantively unreasonable" compared with similar cases. The Sixth Circuit agreed Monday, noting that Congress specifically instructed courts not to give undue weight to class and education when sentencing defendants.
"To prioritize a defendant's education, professional success, and standing in the community would give an additional leg up to defendants who are already in a privileged position," wrote Obama appointee Jane Stranch for a three-judge panel.

Unfortunately, this case goes right back to the same judge. We'll see if she ups the sentence to 45 days.

I always say "The rules you make for us, you make for yourself as well."

There's a corollary to that: The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:04 PM

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1 First.

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 10, 2019 12:05 PM (qC1Sy)

2 Just not into it today, though, I suppose I can call "nood."

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 10, 2019 12:06 PM (qC1Sy)

3
Wh -- it goes back to the SAME JUDGE?

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:06 PM (13CQC)

4 not first

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (iikV8)

5 Brian Cates @drawandstrike
8m
It's now official and on the record: Judge Sullivan has given Van Grack and the prosecution two weeks to respond to the Brady issues raised by the defense.

And Powell is explicitly asking for the Pientka 302.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (BqBId)

6 OT/ already.. Bolton has been fired

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (O2RFr)

7 th

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (BqBId)

8 Yay me.

Whatever.

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (qC1Sy)

9 Obviously a Deep State judge. Pull out all the stops even to protect a homicidal maniac socialist.

The appellate judge will be target now. No way they're taking this development laying down.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (BOrGu)

10 burn it down

Posted by: Rick in SK at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (FZYNt)

11 Trump fires Bolton.

OMG the administration is in chaos!

Posted by: blaster at September 10, 2019 12:08 PM (ZfRYq)

12 "Educated" sounds like code for white privilege.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2019 12:08 PM (TOOqT)

13 On the Bolton front.

President's own tweet says he asked for his resignation.

Posted by: Don Quixote at September 10, 2019 12:08 PM (NgKpN)

14 top 10.

damint, still in the last thread.

oh well, I hope this guy enjoy PMITAP and maybe he'll need some surgery to correct HIS injuries upon leaving.

or maybe just a colostomy bag...

Posted by: SturmToddler at September 10, 2019 12:08 PM (8D42x)

15 Silly season's over. Let the bodies hit the floor.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:08 PM (RD7QR)

16 Nominate Judges who pledge to issue just as many injunctions as their leftist colleagues.

To not do so, is to make all our efforts, fights, sweat in the legislative, and the Executive - meaningless.

The current rules are that we are governed by the judiciary. How about we get in that game, play by the rules.

Posted by: Quilp at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (Bf3hj)

17 Stuff like this is exactly why the Kristol Klan is at their stupidest when saying "but muh judges".

Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (ZGrMX)

18 If was me I would be putting up at 10 foot fence with razor wire lights between my house and his.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (JUOKG)

19 Which is all fine in theory, but getting a reasonable prosecutor and a court to agree may be, um, difficult.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (pkvuH)

20 >>>Wh -- it goes back to the SAME JUDGE?

yes but that's standard. An appeals court reverses a ruling, explains to the lower judge how she got it wrong, and sends it back to let that judge rule again, this time taking account of the errors pointed out.

When a court says "remanded," that's what they mean -- we've sent this back with instructions.

I think the judge has gotten the message that she cannot mention background or education or wealth as criteria, and she'll come up with other reasons to say he shouldn't have a heavy sentence. But, she might, I hope, at least understand she must give a sentence in line with the guidelines.

Of course, she will give a sentence that is at the absolute lowest end of guideline recommendations.

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (PbpT7)

21
Im betting Johnny got got caught leaking shit behind the bosses back.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (8XRCm)

22 >>>13 On the Bolton front.

President's own tweet says he asked for his resignation.

dang I just heard of this but had already posted this when I heard of it

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (PbpT7)

23 What she really meant was that he attacked a Republican so it is okay....

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (l9mVC)

24 Speaking of the legal profession . . .

Feminist girltorney Lisa Bloom (daughter of Gloria Allred (Allthetime)).

https://bit.ly/2kF1d42

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (+y/Ru)

25 So he got a shorter sentence because he was 'educated.'

How long before judges flat out admit 'your sentence is xyz because you are a liberal in good standing who made life difficult for conservatives'?

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (k76MH)

26 We're being ruled by the judiciary.

Posted by: Sooner at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (Fs5vw)

27 She might as well have said "He can't go to jail, he's White and he lives in a nice neighborhood!"

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (Kpl3J)

28 Educated people never do bad things.

Posted by: Leopold and Loeb at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (oZ6kz)

29 The lower court judge could go all in and resentence to 32 days.

And yes all remands go back to where they were from.

Don't touch your dial. Stay tuned.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (BOrGu)

30 Brought up from the chimp thread, because going immediately OT is what we do:

402 378 @realDonaldTrump 7 minutes ago

I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore....

....I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:05 PM (cF8AT)

Opposed the Afghanistan withdrawal, is my guess. The Donald is my fave but God's teeth does he have problems retaining personnel.
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (RD7QR)

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (RD7QR)

31 Paul could have died. He recently had surgery due to the injury of one of his lungs.

But muh education and background.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ptqGC)

32 Yeah, that's a slap she should have known was coming. She has been instructed to follow the sentencing guidelines. If she doesn't it will be taken out of her hands.

(Appellate courts really do not like defiance from lower courts.)

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (hLRSq)

33 I AM THE SENTENCING GUIDELINES BITCHES!!!
- Obama Judges

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (FiUMj)

34
I'm glad it's going back, but WTF is with those ameliorations? Educated? Church-going? Hey sweetie, throw in "White" and be done with it.

She's a Clinton appointee. When Black people say there's unequal justice for them and their impoverished, less-educated ilk, there's your reason.

White liberal bullshit strikes again.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (13CQC)

35 So, second look at the death of a certain intern?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ptqGC)

36 That corollary is wrong. They will come down on you like a ton of bricks from something that the right people walk away from unscathed. Look at the leaking done-who pays a price? The sailor who takes some pictures.

Posted by: ejochs at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (lSFMQ)

37 O/T
I just turned on my radio for Rush and the local news announced that a scheduled 9-11 service at a local Baptist church in Bloomfield hills has been cancelled due to a complaint by Rashid talib who called it anti Muslim! She is a rep in Detroit not Bloomfield!

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (lonOK)

38 Sounds like Bolton may have had something to do with the Taliban meeting at Camp David. Also sounds like a last straw kind of thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

39 John You're FIRED

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (BqBId)

40 Of course, she will give a sentence that is at the absolute lowest end of guideline recommendations.

Posted by: ace

What's the lowest end of sentencing?

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (dDUXP)

41 25 So he got a shorter sentence because he was 'educated.'

How long before judges flat out admit 'your sentence is xyz because you are a liberal in good standing who made life difficult for conservatives'?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (k76MH)

Its usually not the Judges, its the Prosecuting attorneys who do this through plea deals.

On one side, or the other.

Posted by: Don Quixote at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (NgKpN)

42 the attacker was smart enough to realize he wouldn't be punished justly for the crime

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (0O7c5)

43 28
Educated people never do bad things.

Posted by: Leopold and Loeb

Right?

Posted by: Professor Moriarty at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (T6t7i)

44 Liberals: It's so unfair that poor minority criminals get harsher penalties than rich white ones

Also liberals: Hey man, this guy is white and rich, so slap on the wrist for him

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (FiUMj)

45 35 So, second look at the death of a certain intern?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ptqGC)
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Chandra Levy?

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (qC1Sy)

46 You know, I'm white and educated and live in a nice neighborhood. But I bet I'd get a pretty hefty sentence if I assaulted a Democrat in Congress.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (oZ6kz)

47
Wh -- it goes back to the SAME JUDGE?

yes but that's standard. An appeals court reverses a ruling, explains to the lower judge how she got it wrong, and sends it back to let that judge rule again, this time taking account of the errors pointed out.

Posted by: ace

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Ah, thanks. Learned something again.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (13CQC)

48 Unfortunately, this case goes right back to the same judge."

Didn't she get moved out of the regular circuit for reaching 75?

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (6qErC)

49 On a semi-related note, I see the higher level judges have smacked down the Boston judge that did not want offer light sentences to the AntiFa terrorists.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (YA914)

50 42 the attacker was smart enough to realize he wouldn't be punished justly for the crime
Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 10, 2019 12:12 PM (0O7c5)

Which is where the real danger lies. We're already seeing Antifa escalate violence because they know they're going to get away with it.

Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (k76MH)

51
Opposed the Afghanistan withdrawal, is my guess.

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You misspelled "leaked details about Camp David without authorization".

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (8XRCm)

52 What we need are written standards for sentencing, showing how if you are a member of a certain class, or commit a crime against a member of a non-favored class, you are exempt from punishment, whereas if the opposite is true, the defendant is remanded to the camps.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (YslsA)

53 5 So he got a shorter sentence because he was 'educated.'

How long before judges flat out admit 'your sentence is xyz because you are a liberal in good standing who made life difficult for conservatives'?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (k76MH)

We're already there.

Posted by: Sooner at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (Fs5vw)

54 I believe she also specified that it was a dispute between neighbors and not political.Which is bullshit.

Posted by: steevy at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (l9mVC)

55
Sounds like Bolton may have had something to do with the Taliban meeting
at Camp David. Also sounds like a last straw kind of thing.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

Bolton was against the Camp David meeting. I'll admit, I think it would be the wrong place to meet with those 7th century cretins. They'd need to be trained in proper toilet usage, for one thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (ptqGC)

56 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (Zz0t1)

57 38 Sounds like Bolton may have had something to do with the Taliban meeting at Camp David. Also sounds like a last straw kind of thing.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ZLI7S)

I wonder about the 'leaks' about the Russian Spy stuff too.

Posted by: Don Quixote at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

58 The Donald is my fave but God's teeth does he have problems retaining personnel.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien

The upside is that people don't get comfortable in their positions. They know their heads are ALWAYS on the chopping block. I think this is a good thing.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (T6t7i)

59 25 So he got a shorter sentence because he was 'educated.'

How long before judges flat out admit 'your sentence is xyz because you are a liberal in good standing who made life difficult for conservatives'?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (k76MH)
this is what "white liberal" privelege looks like.....and what "white not liberal" privelege looks like

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (0O7c5)

60 a degree is a get-out-of-jail card? How do they grade it: if you're a BA you get maybe 18 months in the pokey, but if you're a PhD you get probation?

DOCTOR AMY BISHOP was fuckin' robbed. She needs to file an appeal.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (ykYG2)

61 I'd probably be treated even worse, for being a traitor to my class.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (oZ6kz)

62 Follow the Constitution, and you won't be assassinated. Keep thwarting the Constitution, all bets are off.

Posted by: Chestertonrocks at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (VvtSf)

63 Unfortunately, this case goes right back to the same judge. We'll see if she ups the sentence to 45 days.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:04 PM

You're quite the optimist. I wouldn't be surprised if she reduces the sentence further.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (tVQUs)

64 I think the judge has gotten the message that she cannot mention background or education or wealth as criteria, and she'll come up with other reasons to say he shouldn't have a heavy sentence. But, she might, I hope, at least understand she must give a sentence in line with the guidelines.

Of course, she will give a sentence that is at the absolute lowest end of guideline recommendations.

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (PbpT7)

The story says that the Prosecution asked for 21 - 27 months, significantly less than the maximum 10 years, and I think that after this Judge has been slapped down by the Appeals Court, her safest play is to put her sentence at the midpoint of their recommendation. I'm going to cautiously predict that this case ends up with a sentence of 24 months in Club Fed.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (Kpl3J)

65 Oh here we go....

@AmbJohnBolton

I offered to resign last night and President Trump said, "Let's talk about it tomorrow."

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (cF8AT)

66
So, second look at the death of a certain intern?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ptqGC)

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Mornin Joe ???

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (8XRCm)

67
It's now official and on the record: Judge Sullivan has given Van Grack and the prosecution two weeks --

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(record scratch)
LOLOLOL, didn't read any further.

I mean it's so funny. Literally, #TwoWeeks! HAHAHA, rofl, as if that's gonna happen. Van Grack will miss the deadline, ask for an extension, request granted for another -- dare I say it -- lololol

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (13CQC)

68 I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House. I disagreed strongly with many of his suggestions, as did others in the Administration, and therefore....

Sounds like Bolton is still trying to do 1980's - 2007 style diplomacy and Trump is like, "who met Kim Jong Ding Dong, bitchez?"

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (dDUXP)

69 Today's 2 Minute Hate is RECESSION with a bit of impeachment stirred in.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (BOrGu)

70 I wonder about the 'leaks' about the Russian Spy stuff too.

Posted by: Don Quixote at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (NgKpN)

Obama's acolyte, Jim Sciutto, was the CNN reporter on that nugget.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (ptqGC)

71 Opposed the Afghanistan withdrawal, is my guess. The Donald is my fave but God's teeth does he have problems retaining personnel.
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (RD7QR)

Once Trump thinks you're not suitable for the job, you're out. However, I get the impression that it's nothing personal, and that Trump only lashes out publicly at those people who try to criticize him publicly after being fired.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (wCmLp)

72 How long before judges flat out admit 'your sentence is xyz because you are a liberal in good standing who made life difficult for conservatives'?
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:10 PM (k76MH)

__

That is what happened. Educated = liberal as far as liberals are concerned.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (FiUMj)

73 Bolton was against the Camp David meeting. I'll admit, I think it would be the wrong place to meet with those 7th century cretins. They'd need to be trained in proper toilet usage, for one thing.

On the plus side, they'd be very close to Gitmo.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (ZGrMX)

74 How much time would I get for kicking this guy within an inch of his life? Not 30 days, I'm pretty sure.

But a Hahvahd perfesser? Kick away, pencilneck.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (oVJmc)

75 That original opinion came awfully close to saying, "He's one of us," didn't it?

As for Bolton: My profound prediction is that lefties who were shocked and appalled that Trump appointed him will be outraged that Trump has now fired him. (See also, Tillerson, R., former Secretary of State.)

Posted by: JPS at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (HXgh4)

76 >>> She might as well have said He cant go to jail, he's White and he lives in a nice neighborhood!

Boys will be boys!

Posted by: LizLem at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (ByJd4)

77 So, should I ever be in the same elevator as Chuck Schumer and I punch him in the face and break his nose, all I can get is the precedent set of 30 days in jail?

That MIGHT actually be worth it.

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

78 Opposed the Afghanistan withdrawal, is my guess.

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You misspelled "leaked details about Camp David without authorization".

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM---

That sounds plausible.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (JUOKG)

79
As for Bolton: My profound prediction is that lefties who were shocked and appalled that Trump appointed him will be outraged that Trump has now fired him. (See also, Tillerson, R., former Secretary of State.)

Already are..

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (O2RFr)

80 Bolton is a highly regarded thought leader in DC with a solid reputation.

Trump is disgraceful.

We urge Nadler to look at impeachment.

Posted by: MSM at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (MAstk)

81 What is is with Mariannes. We need common-sense crystal control.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (ykYG2)

82 The Donald is my fave but God's teeth does he have problems retaining personnel."

Funny 'bout that - recall Teh Won's early cabinet struggles (the bit about "Jesus [as a carpenter] could assemble a cabinet)...

That was on the newz for approx .002 of a second.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (6qErC)

83 I am educated, but this guy has an MD and i only have a masters. I'd probably get 60-90 days for breaking the ribs of a politician I don't like.

*looks at summer break schedule*

*looks at Chuch Schumer*

Posted by: Bandersnatch at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (wzVKm)

84 If everyone you meet is an asshole you just might be the asshole.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (Rzloy)

85 Fifty lashes in the town square. Give Paul the option to deliver the pain.

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (kLDv+)

86
I think the judge has gotten the message that she cannot mention background or education or wealth as criteria, and she'll come up with other reasons to say he shouldn't have a heavy sentence. But, she might, I hope, at least understand she must give a sentence in line with the guidelines.

Of course, she will give a sentence that is at the absolute lowest end of guideline recommendations.

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:09 PM (PbpT7)

=======

I wish she would say "He's White." I'm sorry, but that's part of it. White liberals are a tribe.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (13CQC)

87 Watch the media now fall in love with John Bolton, who they've been hammering on for the better part of two decades.

Posted by: Mark1971 at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (xPl2J)

88 Which reminds me. Wasn't the Covington kids lawsuit against the WAPO dismissed?

Message received. It is not only OK to smear and slander conservatives but you can assault them as well with little fear of legal consequences. (And if you wear a MAGA hat you deserve far worse). After all our tormentors are fighting the good fight.

Posted by: Ripley at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (MxEKc)

89 So, second look at the death of a certain intern?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (ptqGC)

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Mornin Joe ???

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (8XRCm)

*cough*

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (ptqGC)

90 And what is the consequence for the judge? NADA. This is why they all do this shit, they know nothing will happen. Just like the neighbor knew that being a liberal in good standing meant he could assault Paul with zero consequences.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (FiUMj)

91 Bolton was against the Camp David meeting. I'll admit, I think it would be the wrong place to meet with those 7th century cretins.

They'd need to be trained in proper toilet usage, for one thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Better they meet out in the woods then, instead of shittin up the White House.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (dDUXP)

92 77 So, should I ever be in the same elevator as Chuck Schumer and I punch him in the face and break his nose, all I can get is the precedent set of 30 days in jail?

That MIGHT actually be worth it.
Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)
whoa.......you don't have "white liberal" privelege.....

Posted by: phoenixgirl at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (0O7c5)

93 >>Obama's acolyte, Jim Sciutto, was the CNN reporter on that nugget.

You mean the garbage network that also employs Andrew McCabe, a guy who was fired for leaking classified information to the media?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (ZLI7S)

94 I'll be at the reloading bench...

Posted by: Uncle Pinochet 's Helicopter Rides at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (wrU97)

95 87 Watch the media now fall in love with John Bolton, who they've been hammering on for the better part of two decades.
Posted by: Mark1971 at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (xPl2J)

___

It does feel nice, I have to admit it.

Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (FiUMj)

96 The story says that the Prosecution asked for 21 - 27 months, significantly less than the maximum 10 years, and I think that after this Judge has been slapped down by the Appeals Court, her safest play is to put her sentence at the midpoint of their recommendation. I'm going to cautiously predict that this case ends up with a sentence of 24 months in Club Fed.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (Kpl3J)

If its true she is 75? She may not care.

Posted by: Don Quixote at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (NgKpN)

97 >>>What's the lowest end of sentencing?

oh no idea. The prosecutors asked for something like 21 to 27 months. That is, I assume, inside the guildelines range, though I'm sure the range goes lower and higher than that.

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (PbpT7)

98 how does he still have a medical license? do no harm and all that.

Posted by: x at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (nFwvY)

99 of course, if ryan was a dee and boucher was a rep, he'd be facing 5-10.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (Pg+x7)

100
I guess the Congressional basebell shooter would have gotten 90 days community service, then?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (pNxlR)

101 a degree is a get-out-of-jail card? How do they grade it: if you're a BA you get maybe 18 months in the pokey, but if you're a PhD you get probation?

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (ykYG2)

So that's why my Dad always went 90 mph down residential streets; if a cop pulled him over, he could've just flashed his doctorate and gotten off scott-free.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (tVQUs)

102 77 So, should I ever be in the same elevator as Chuck Schumer and I punch him in the face and break his nose, all I can get is the precedent set of 30 days in jail?

That MIGHT actually be worth it.
Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (Zz0t1)

Whoa whoa whoa, we're gonna need to see W-2s, house valuations, diplomas, the whole panoply before we do sentencing.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (RD7QR)

103 Mike G. @MikeKGilmore
15m
Replying to @drawandstrike @SidneyPowell1
Looks like Powell's strategy is to thread the needle of the 302 issue.

If it's true the 302 was altered, and Flynn pleaded guilty to falsified/altered evidence, and the Prosecution didn't provide this via Brady order, then I would expect Sullivan to toss the charges.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (BqBId)

104 dem not dee. spelchk, etc.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (Pg+x7)

105 88 Which reminds me. Wasn't the Covington kids lawsuit against the WAPO dismissed?
..

It's on appeal and sounds like there's a good chance for it to be reinstated.

Posted by: HA at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (MAstk)

106 90
And what is the consequence for the judge? NADA. This is why they all do this shit, they know nothing will happen.

It's all up side for her. She won't be fired, because she's already retired, and this was a golden opportunity to virtue signal to her buddies.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (T6t7i)

107 >>>If its true she is 75? She may not care.

true but it could be appealed again, and while I can't remember any such cases, there must be some power of an appeals court to assign a case to a different judge if the lower judge remains in rebellion against their rulings.

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (PbpT7)

108 >>>There's a corollary to that: The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from.

Huh-uh.

Posted by: m at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (2VrwR)

109 >>Obama's acolyte, Jim Sciutto, was the CNN reporter on that nugget.

You mean the garbage network that also employs Andrew McCabe, a guy
who was fired for leaking classified information to the media?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (ZLI7S)

Yep. The banana network.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (ptqGC)

110 He was educated, all right. He went to Antifa U.

Posted by: kallisto at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (AJwk0)

111 Unfortunately, this case goes right back to the same judge. We'll see if she ups the sentence to 45 days.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 12:04 PM

TIME SERVED plus damages.

Posted by: Hack in Black at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (Zz0t1)

112 I guess the Congressional basebell shooter would have gotten 90 days community service, then?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:18 PM (pNxlR)

Anger Management Courses, more likely.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (tVQUs)

113 So, should I ever be in the same elevator as Chuck Schumer

... I'm cutting the squeakiest, smelliest damp fart I can, pulling a disgusted face, and then pointing to Schumer saying "it was HIM" when the next people board the lift.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (ykYG2)

114
The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from.

------

Assumes facts not in evidence.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (AzW6q)

115 Follow the Constitution, and you won't be assassinated. Keep thwarting the Constitution, all bets are off.
Posted by: Chestertonrocks at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (VvtSf)

----

ummm.... no

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (8XRCm)

116 Phil Kerpen
@kerpen
The Trumpiest Trump move would be to pardon Flynn and hire him back

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (BqBId)

117 91
Bolton was against the Camp David meeting. I'll admit, I think it would
be the wrong place to meet with those 7th century cretins.

They'd need to be trained in proper toilet usage, for one thing.

Posted by: Jane D'oh

Better they meet out in the woods then, instead of shittin up the White House.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 12:17 PM (dDUXP)
Obama's dog already shat up the WH, and Air Force 1 planes. Who knows about the chopper and limos. I'm sure they are soiled too.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (D3cJf)

118 Bolton was against the Camp David meeting. I'll admit, I think it would
be the wrong place to meet with those 7th century cretins. They'd need
to be trained in proper toilet usage, for one thing.
=====

I am also wondering how much the China issues are being influenced by muslim 'concentration camp' publicity. Unfortunately, Pompeo seems to buy into that nonsense. Christians (and all dissidents) in China have the same difficulties, but Pompeo gave a speech about the 'camps'.

Pompeo has done a good job, like Bolton, but I do worry that they are just falling into the Foggy Bottom Blues.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (MIKMs)

119

Situations like this are why some people say that there is no justice in the justice system and that to get any justice, one must take the matters in to one's own hands.

I mean, I don't personally advocate that, but I do know there are many, many people out there that do.

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (YA914)

120 So that's why my Dad always went 90 mph down
residential streets; if a cop pulled him over, he could've just flashed
his doctorate and gotten off scott-free.

Posted by: Surfperch

If you show them proof of your NRC postdoctoral fellowship, they give you a turkey.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (T6t7i)

121 How much time would I get for kicking this guy within an inch of his life? Not 30 days, I'm pretty sure.

But a Hahvahd perfesser? Kick away, pencilneck.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at September 10, 2019 12:15 PM (oVJmc)

In related news, Eric Clanton, the bike lock attacker, who taught at a local communist factory, gets three years probation for trying to smash in someone's brains.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (cY3LT)

122 True justice would be a Louisville Slugger upside that dickhead's ribs......swung by Frank Thomas.

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (Zz0t1)

123 Overall I'd have to say Rand Paul has really grown on me the past few years. That is highly correlated with how my respect and trust for the FBI/CIA has plummeted in the past few years.

Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (N4xQB)

124 Bolton is part of the GOP warmonger class, they never see a situation that couldn't use copious amounts of American blood and treasure.

It's a very good thing that he has been shown the door.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (88mwq)

125
Sounds like Bolton is still trying to do 1980's - 2007 style diplomacy and Trump is like, "who met Kim Jong Ding Dong, bitchez?"
Posted by: rickb223

======

Well, it seems like that's one of those things that's an activity, not an achievement. We still don't know what it'll come to.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (13CQC)

126 84 If everyone you meet is an asshole you just might be the asshole.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 12:16 PM (Rzloy)

THEY JUST CAN'T STAND A MAN WITH STRONG OPINIONS!*

*What?

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (RD7QR)

127 111 Unfortunately, this case goes right back to the same judge. We'll see if she ups the sentence to 45 days.
..

She'll up it and convert it to house arrest.

Posted by: HA at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (MAstk)

128 >>> Ah, thanks. Learned something again.

Blonde, that is one of the blessings of the Horde, I learn so much here. One of the curses is that some of the them are burnt into my brain for life and cannot be unseen...

Posted by: LizLem at September 10, 2019 12:21 PM (ByJd4)

129 58 The Donald is my fave but God's teeth does he have problems retaining personnel.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien

The upside is that people don't get comfortable in their positions. They know their heads are ALWAYS on the chopping block. I think this is a good thing.
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:14 PM (T6t7i)"

Trump brings a fast moving business exec's approach to his staff, rather than the collegiate/political model that everyone else has always followed. In the Collegiate model, people are groomed for years and decades, tightly knit little fiefdoms are built, *no* *one* is ever fired for anything, no matter how egregious.

In Trump's business model, people are hired for the usefulness at a particular time. If they perform well, then they may be retained for the next project. If not, or if they disappoint, then BAM! You're Fired!!!! For every job, there's a million potential replacements out there, and everyone is replaceable on a moment's notice.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:21 PM (Kpl3J)

130 I tried to type LOLGF in a text message, and autocucumber wrote it as "Longfellow."

Yeesh.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:21 PM (ptqGC)

131 Battani should batten down the hatches. Every decision she now makes will be even more suspect. In fact her ability to be a judge is greatly impaired.

She should resign, I hear Oberlin is looking for new legal counsel.

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2019 12:21 PM (bQHqS)

132 122 True justice would be a Louisville Slugger upside that dickhead's ribs......swung by Frank Thomas.
Posted by: Sponge

and she'll like it too.

Posted by: x at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (nFwvY)

133 One of the reasons that I support reinstating the whipping post in American society: it would remove a lot of these bullshit lenient sentences because the defendant comes from the right family, goes to the right school, or the judge doesn't want to "ruin his future".

The lash treats rich and poor equally. A kid getting 20 lashes for vandalism doesn't have to miss out on their admission to college. A drunk driver getting 100 lashes can be back to work in a week.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (wCmLp)

134 THEY JUST CAN'T STAND A MAN WITH STRONG OPINIONS!*

......

That's Right!! YOU GO BOY!

They can't handle a strong, independent man! It's too intimidating for them!

Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (YA914)

135 124 Bolton is part of the GOP warmonger class, they never see a situation that couldn't use copious amounts of American blood and treasure.
..

We'll take that baton.

Posted by: DEMOCRAT PARTY at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (MAstk)

136 113 So, should I ever be in the same elevator as Chuck Schumer

... I'm cutting the squeakiest, smelliest damp fart I can, pulling a disgusted face, and then pointing to Schumer saying "it was HIM" when the next people board the lift.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (ykYG2)

Is that legal?

Posted by: m at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (2VrwR)

137 Situations like this are why some people say that there is no justice in the justice system and that to get any justice, one must take the matters in to one's own hands.

I mean, I don't personally advocate that, but I do know there are many, many people out there that do.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (YA914)

My personal view is, don't get into a situation where I have to have lawyers arguing over my fate.

They don't use human concepts to decide what to do. They use lawyer concepts.

That's not a knock on all lawyers, it's a knock on a corrupt and corruptible system, and lawyers who swim against the tide will always have my respect.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (cY3LT)

138 Every high school dropout this liberal sentenced should be filing an appeal on the grounds that the judge is prejudiced.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (66KLX)

139 OK, so if an illegal alien assaults Chuck Schumer in a sanctuary city does he walk? American justice system has gotten very complicated

Posted by: Ripley at September 10, 2019 12:23 PM (MxEKc)

140 I tried to type LOLGF in a text message, and autocucumber wrote it as "Longfellow."

--

Now, if we write Longfellow, everyone knows what we mean.

Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 10, 2019 12:23 PM (YslsA)

141 Bring back dueling!
50 paces with EBR.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 10, 2019 12:23 PM (88+cf)

142 21
Im betting Johnny got got caught leaking shit behind the bosses back.

I was thinking The 'Stache was engaging in some shadow diplomacy behind the bosses back, possibly with Iran or China.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 10, 2019 12:23 PM (O8WFE)

143 Mitt Romney
45s

I'm shocked and deeply saddened that the President has seen fit to terminate the service of Ambassador John Bolton, a fine public servant and patriot.
I will have more to say later.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:24 PM (NFEMn)

144 At least 5 years in prison. At least. He attacked a senator and caused extensive injury and ongoing surgery and treatment.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:24 PM (H8QX8)

145 In Trump's business model, people are hired for the usefulness at a particular time. If they perform well, then they may be retained for the next project. If not, or if they disappoint, then BAM! You're Fired!!!! For every job, there's a million potential replacements out there, and everyone is replaceable on a moment's notice.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:21 PM (Kpl3J)

The funny thing is that the Trump model is far kinder to people. Easy come, easy go means that if you fuck up it doesn't destroy your career. You can always learn from your mistakes, or move into a new position. In the collegiate model, if you're out you're out and starting from the bottom again, so people are rarely actually fired.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 10, 2019 12:24 PM (wCmLp)

146 He'll get a Guidelines sentence now, i.e., 21 months minimum. She won't defy the Court of Appeals, which virtually ORDERED her to impose a Guidelines sentence next time around.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 12:24 PM (Cssks)

147 >>>... I'm cutting the squeakiest, smelliest damp fart I can, pulling a
disgusted face, and then pointing to Schumer saying "it was HIM"<<<

To what degree do we get shart? Damp? Moist?

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2019 12:24 PM (kLDv+)

148
"White" and "Wicked smart", huh? I'm guessing that there are one or more hidden factors at work there.

Now whatever might they be?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:24 PM (pNxlR)

149 Situations like this are why some people say that there is no justice in the justice system and that to get any justice, one must take the matters in to one's own hands."

Just remember that this is the default status of just about every human society that has ever existed - the more money, standing, and social connections you have, the more "justice" you get.

The people on the bottom who say they get given a whole lot different level of "justice" than rich white people get aren't completely wrong.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (Kpl3J)

150 LOLGF, Mittens.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (O8WFE)

151 @DavidBegnaud

BREAKING: The FEMA official in Puerto Rico, in charge of power restoration after Hurricane Maria, has been arrested by the FBI, as has the fmr. CEO of Cobra Energy (which got $1.8B in contracts) & a 2nd FEMA official...all accused of enriching themselves & defrauding the fed govt

https://tinyurl.com/y4urct7o

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (cF8AT)

152
how does he still have a medical license? do no harm and all that.
Posted by: x

======

Well, that's in his professional capacity. Although if I were one of his patients, I wouldn't let him know my political affiliation. Likely to come out of surgery with a kidney missing instead of my tonsils and an Obama-shaped scar.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (13CQC)

153 You can always learn from your mistakes, or move into a new position. In
the collegiate model, if you're out you're out and starting from the
bottom again, so people are rarely actually fired.

How do you explain Donna Brazile or Jamie Gorelick?

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (T6t7i)

154 Now, if we write Longfellow, everyone knows what we mean.
Posted by: Vashta Nerada at September 10, 2019 12:23 PM

Maybe you can help me straighten that out.

Posted by: Thornton Mellon at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (gXMGG)

155 What does "scolded" mean to these judges? How about defrocked and disbarred? Scolded ain't shit.

Posted by: Chris W at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (FPtHm)

156 I tried to type LOLGF in a text message, and autocucumber wrote it as "Longfellow."

The Paolo, he has, how do you say, a long fellow.

Posted by: The Paolo at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (ZGrMX)

157 The people on the bottom who say they get given a whole lot different level of "justice" than rich white people get aren't completely wrong.
..

Let me guess, us?

Posted by: HILLARY Comey Brennan et al at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (MAstk)

158 I saw Bolton kick the snot out of a BBC reporter a while back and this sort of endeared him to me. Don't know too much more about him.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (H8QX8)

159 Overall I'd have to say Rand Paul has really grown on me the past few years. That is highly correlated with how my respect and trust for the FBI/CIA has plummeted in the past few years.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (N4xQB)

Pretty much, yeah.

Same with the foreign intervention folks. I think we're done with that... for now.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (cY3LT)

160 @DavidBegnaud

BREAKING: The FEMA official in Puerto Rico, in charge of power restoration after Hurricane Maria, has been arrested by the FBI, as has the fmr. CEO of Cobra Energy (which got $1.8B in contracts) & a 2nd FEMA official...all accused of enriching themselves & defrauding the fed govt

https://tinyurl.com/y4urct7o
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (cF8AT)

What about the mayor and governor at the time? The ones trashing Trump every 5 minutes all while nothing was distributed and the money was squandered?

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

161
138 Every high school dropout this liberal sentenced should be filing an appeal on the grounds that the judge is prejudiced.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (66KLX)

Right you are!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (pNxlR)

162
Overall I'd have to say Rand Paul has really grown on me the past few years. That is highly correlated with how my respect and trust for the FBI/CIA has plummeted in the past few years.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at September 10, 2019 12:20 PM (N4xQB)

-------

I respect Paul.

I certainly don't always agree with him, but I believe he usually acts/votes on principle, not just the vagaries of swamp-creature power politics.

IOW, the rarest of all creatures... an honest man in DC.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (AzW6q)

163 140 Vashta

"Longfellow" for LOLGFY? I like it!

I'm also fond of "azalea" for a-hole.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (Cssks)

164 The corollary is morally correct, but morally correct doesn't buy you much nowadays.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (hdzef)

165 People couldn't tell that Cobra Energy was evil? Come on man.

Armies of the night, Evil taking flight
Cobra!

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (oZ6kz)

166 Bolton is part of the GOP warmonger class, they never see a situation
that couldn't use copious amounts of American blood and treasure.
=====

Disagree. The Establishment hate him.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (MIKMs)

167 The lash treats rich and poor equally. A kid getting 20 lashes for vandalism doesn't have to miss out on their admission to college. A drunk driver getting 100 lashes can be back to work in a week.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at September 10, 2019 12:22 PM (wCmLp)
--------------

Second look at press gangs and wooden sailing ships?

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (qC1Sy)

168 Yes, sir. It was a very very bad thing to have done and I'm really very ashamed of myself, I can only say it won't happen again. To have murdered so many people in such a short space of time is really awful, and I really am very, very, very sorry that I did it, and also that I've taken up so much of the court's valuable time listening to the sordid details of these senseless killings of mine. I would particularly like to say, a very personal and sincere 'sorry' to you, m'lud, my lud for my appalling behavior throughout this trial. I'd also like to say sorry to the police, for putting them to so much trouble (shot of three heavily bandaged exhausted-looking policemen behind him) for the literally hours of work they've had to put in, collecting evidence and identifying corpses and so forth. You know I think sometimes we ought to realize the difficult and often dangerous work involved in tracking down violent criminals like myself and I'd last like them to know that their fine work is at least appreciated by me.

(The policemen look embarrassed.)

http://montypython.50webs.com/
scripts/Series_3/1.htm

Posted by: andycanuck at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (Dh1wo)

169 I think I'd just keep asking, "You gonna cry, Chuck? You cryin'? Do a lot of cryin'? What's that about? Daddy didn't love you? Or is that a mommy thing? How's your mentee Carlos Danger? He likes little girls. You like little girls, Chuck? Wait, don't cry! Cryin' Chuck, likes little girls."
Hopefully that would provoke him to violence.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (nRWPy)

170 I don't always agree with Rand Paul, but I'm damn glad he's in the US Senate.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (O8WFE)

171 What can the people do to unseat these hack judges?

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (Zz0t1)

172 What did he do in his church, beat up the altar boys?

Posted by: Caliban at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (QE8X6)

173 Once upon a time, there was a stigma attached to being overruled by an appeals court. Now not so much.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (sX1BW)

174 "There's a corollary to that: The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from."

---------------

Or as noted in the overnight thread if the DOJ doesn't prosecute any of the FBI and CIA thugs and coup engineers soon they can forget about getting a guilty verdict for any case they bring before a jury.

Posted by: Decaf at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (xarPm)

175 Never forget in Puerto Rico that hurricane relief supplies sat in trailers for over a year...

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2019 12:27 PM (bQHqS)

176 I miss Wapner. Dude was great.

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (C+We0)

177 @DavidBegnaud

BREAKING: The FEMA official in Puerto Rico, in charge of power
restoration after Hurricane Maria, has been arrested by the FBI, as has
the fmr. CEO of Cobra Energy (which got $1.8B in contracts) a 2nd
FEMA official...all accused of enriching themselves defrauding the
fed govt

https://tinyurl.com/y4urct7o

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (cF8AT)

But it's all on the Orange Man, right?

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (ptqGC)

178 >>> And what is the consequence for the judge? NADA. This is why they all do this shit, they know nothing will happen.

Original ruling was virtue signaling she is a true believer in good standing with the party; next one will be a little harsher, but they will understand she had no choice.

I played Secret Hitler over the weekend. Sometimes you have to play a bad policy when you are really on the good side. That is all this is... no really, I am one of the good guys, swearsies!

It makes life tough when the fascists in real life, like this judge, think they are on the side of good.

Posted by: LizLem at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (ByJd4)

179 Not sure why the vitriol towards Bolton. He loves America and Defends her and our Allies around the world. I do not believe he is a War monger. A hawk yes for sure. Agree or disagree with him, he is not the enemy. I hope him all the best in his next endeavors, which I am sure will be in supporting America and not attacking her or even this President

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (p0A33)

180 Bolton fired Seb Gorka as one of the first things he did when he took the job, and I thought that was a shitty thing to do. Made me think that Bolton was more about promoting himself than anything else - he didn't want anyone in his department who could steal some of the spotlight.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (Kpl3J)

181 > Obama's dog already shat up the WH, and Air Force 1 planes. Who knows about the chopper and limos. I'm sure they are soiled too.

Also, they'll never get the WH linen tablecloths and napkins clean. Dog grease just doesn't come out, even with dry cleaning.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (cB5if)

182 What about the mayor and governor at the time? The ones trashing Trump every 5 minutes all while nothing was distributed and the money was squandered?

Seems they had a point. FEMA was going full Clinton and just looting the aid, and Trump didn't notice until too late.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (ykYG2)

183
Blonde, that is one of the blessings of the Horde, I learn so much here. One of the curses is that some of the them are burnt into my brain for life and cannot be unseen...
Posted by: LizLem

======

Ain't it the truth? I not only get to alternately vent like a volcano and laugh my way through my day, I also pick up nuggets of info that I'd NEVER learn by watching the "news."

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (13CQC)

184 huh..I thought Bolton was doing good? What's all this drama about?

Posted by: IC at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (a0IVu)

185 @DavidBegnaud

BREAKING: The FEMA official in Puerto Rico, in charge of power restoration after Hurricane Maria, has been arrested by the FBI, as has the fmr. CEO of Cobra Energy (which got $1.8B in contracts) & a 2nd FEMA official...all accused of enriching themselves & defrauding the fed govt

https://tinyurl.com/y4urct7o
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (cF8AT)

No F'n way! How is that possible??

They were from the government, they were there to... help.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (cY3LT)

186 153 You can always learn from your mistakes, or move into a new position. In
the collegiate model, if you're out you're out and starting from the
bottom again, so people are rarely actually fired.

How do you explain Donna Brazile or Jamie Gorelick?
Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:25 PM (T6t7i)

They're associated with the Reptilian-Freemason-Rothschild conspiracy so they just leap from position to position all the while arranging for their masters to extend their web of control and satanic influence.*

*What?

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (RD7QR)

187
What does "scolded" mean to these judges?

A sternly worded letter is placed in your file.

IN YOUR FILE! * Michael Corrleone voice *

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:29 PM (pNxlR)

188 >> @realDonaldTrump 7 minutes ago:

"I informed John Bolton last night that his services are no longer needed at the White House."[...]

Good.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at September 10, 2019 12:29 PM (c+n3A)

189 I don't always agree with Rand Paul, but I'm damn glad he's in the US Senate.

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The Senate would be a lot better if there were more Rand Paul types there.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:29 PM (sX1BW)

190 I bet if Trump was announcing Bolton being appointed right now instead of fired that carpetbagging shit head Romney would be tweeting that he opposes the hiring of such an aggressive warmonger.

Posted by: Buzzion at September 10, 2019 12:29 PM (66KLX)

191 BREAKING NEWS: FBI arrests 2 FEMA officials in Puerto Rico and former CEO of Cobra Energy for defrauding the government after Hurricane Maria

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I blame global warming!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (+y/Ru)

192 From yesterday at Parliament:

At Parliament,
...througout the weekend the right honorable gentlemen's cronies together with those in opposition parties have been trying to disguise their preposterous cowardice by coming up with evermore outrageous...
_Boris Johnson

https://tinyurl.com/y6a8arua
https://preview.tinyurl.com/y6a8arua

It's a video and the delivery is par excellence.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (hSSpd)

193 They're associated with the Reptilian-Freemason-Rothschild conspiracy so
they just leap from position to position all the while arranging for
their masters to extend their web of control and satanic influence.*

*What?

You forgot to say Subterranean Reptilians.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (T6t7i)

194 It's Aqua Buddha's revenge!

Posted by: WitchDoktor, as if anyone gives a shit at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (C+We0)

195 119>>>

I could be mistaken, but I sometimes get the feeling that a lot of people are chomping at the bit for a chance to deliver some old-fashioned vigilante violence.

Posted by: Allie at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (eiebj)

196
Corruption in Puerto Rico? Oh, my stars and garters!

It's a good thing that we're swapping Greenland for PR -- those Danes will clean house thoroughly or know the reason why not!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (pNxlR)

197 true but it could be appealed again, and while I can't remember any such cases, there must be some power of an appeals court to assign a case to a different judge if the lower judge remains in rebellion against their rulings.

Posted by: ace at September 10, 2019 12:19 PM (PbpT7)

I have seen it at the state level where the lower court was not following the appellate court's rulings on remand, and the appellate court just issued the ruling themselves.

Rulings on remand are, as you know, rulings. They are not suggestions.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (hLRSq)

198 The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from

Actually, no. Soros etc. have stacked the deck with their judges, so we have different rules.

Scooter Libby= jail.

Hillary= no intent

Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (l/6vt)

199 I was trying to type LOLGF in response to an Atlanta friend texting me that Jon Tossoff is running to replace David Purdue.

So Longfellow it is, then.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (ptqGC)

200 And the secret Freemason moon bases where Hitler lives with the Illuminati

Posted by: Anna Puma at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (bQHqS)

201 It makes life tough when the fascists in real life, like this judge, think they are on the side of good.
Posted by: LizLem at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (ByJd4)

You may or may not have heard a pretty well known line about Federal Judges (all of them):

Q. What's the main difference between a Federal Judge and God?

A. God doesn't think he's a Federal Judge.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (Kpl3J)

202 Second look at press gangs and wooden sailing ships?
Some of these kids I see might benefit from a press gang. I'm literally sitting and marveling at 80% of the boys walking into my son's high school. They look like they need an IV and a feeding tube. Seems like half these parents have starved them to death. I'm sure it's different out in the hinterland, but here in the people's republic of alexandria in private school most of these kids look like they've never had a meal. It's f-ing bizarre. (The white kids. The black and hispanic kids look pretty normal).

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (nRWPy)

203 Don't worry about old John Bolton. He's still President-for-life of Red Eye.

Posted by: Geronimo Stilton at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (sGnvY)

204 >>>Bring back dueling!
50 paces with EBR.

Roland, I read that at first as 50 paces with PBR, so Pabst blue ribbon. THAT would make for an interesting duel!

Posted by: LizLem at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (ByJd4)

205 Being "educated" or not shouldn't affect your sentence. If it's going to, I would say it should increase it. You've had every opportunity not to be a criminal.

Posted by: irright at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (pMGkg)

206 Bret Baer saying that he had been hearing rumors for a week that Bolton had become a problem for Trump. Besides the Camp David disagreement South Korea was upset at Bolton talking about North Korea while they are trying to broker a peace deal with them and the Afghan government was complaining about his criticism of them.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (t0g7x)

207 >>Jon Tossoff is running to replace David Purdue.

Tossoff? What, no John Cocktosin?

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (ZLI7S)

208 I don't know why Trump fired Bolton. But continually firing staff after a few months on the job makes it hard to hire good people. It's hard enough to find talent given how the left will attempt to destroy your life. But you say, well it's worth it if I can make an impact. But if your life will be fucked by the left AND there's a chance you'll be fired in 6 months, why bother?

Politics aside, would you go work for a company where the CEO is known to fire people at the drop of a hat? I sure as hell wouldn't/

Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (FiUMj)

209 I could be mistaken, but I sometimes get the feeling that a lot of people are chomping at the bit for a chance to deliver some old-fashioned vigilante violence.
Posted by: Allie at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (eiebj)

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It's the American way. At some point, frustration sets in because the job isn't getting done, so, as Americans, we decide to show everyone how the job is supposed to be done.

Posted by: blake - used salesman salesman
at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (qC1Sy)

210 > I miss Wapner. Dude was great.

Bronze Star, Purple Heart. Cebu, WWII.

Dated Lana Turner when they were in high school.

Bad. Ass.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (cB5if)

211 Scooter Libby= jail.

Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (l/6vt)

Yet another reason W and the whole clan sicken me. I spent eight long years defending his oh-so-elite ass from criticism, and he didn't have the decency to pardon an innocent man.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (ptqGC)

212 ....I asked John for his resignation, which was given to me this morning. I thank John very much for his service. I will be naming a new National Security Advisor next week.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:05 PM (cF8AT)

Me thinks John was a little too pushy.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (hSSpd)

213 NOW DFW news is reporting Trump fired Bolton.

Geez......

C'mon, media. Do Better.

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

214 Seb Gorka > John Bolton

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (O8WFE)

215 18 If was me I would be putting up at 10 foot fence with razor wire lights between my house and his.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman
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Yeah, about that . . . . no.

Posted by: Rand Paul's HOA at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (k4dH2)

216 Just a guess.

Trump is more worried about China, then Russia.

Bolton is pretty much the opposite.

Just like Reagans choice to NOT go after Iran after the 83 Beirut Bombing, so he could continue to go after the Soviet Union, sometimes you need to choose which enemy you are going to confront first.

Posted by: Don Quixote at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (NgKpN)

217
BREAKING: The FEMA official in Puerto Rico, in charge of power
restoration after Hurricane Maria, has been arrested by the FBI, as has
the fmr. CEO of Cobra Energy (which got $1.8B in contracts) a 2nd
FEMA official...all accused of enriching themselves defrauding the
fed govt

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I assume you've already seen just how fun this is. The FEMA official is . . . a doctor. And a woman of color.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (13CQC)

218 OT/ already.. Bolton has been fired

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Coming in late. WHA???

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (JoUsr)

219
190 I bet if Trump was announcing Bolton being appointed right now instead of fired that carpetbagging shit head Romney would be tweeting that he opposes the hiring of such an aggressive warmonger.
Posted by: Buzzion at September 10, 2019 12:29 PM (66KLX)

Not that Mitt isn't a fully-credentialed shitheel, but there is someone here who socks his tweets exceedingly well. That likely was him or her.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (pNxlR)

220
202 Second look at press gangs and wooden sailing ships?
Some of these kids I see might benefit from a press gang. I'm literally sitting and marveling at 80% of the boys walking into my son's high school. They look like they need an IV and a feeding tube. Seems like half these parents have starved them to death. I'm sure it's different out in the hinterland, but here in the people's republic of alexandria in private school most of these kids look like they've never had a meal. It's f-ing bizarre. (The white kids. The black and hispanic kids look pretty normal).

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (nRWPy)

Vegan diet maybe?

Posted by: Someguy at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (Wj9tV)

221 My sense of the Bolton firing is this.

They disagreed. Bolton may have said he would go along, but Trump has had too many backstabbers. I don't know if Bolton would be such a person. But in DC, everyone knows personnel is policy. But really, what the President wants should be policy. If you don't like that, vote for someone new.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (sX1BW)

222 North Korea is not cooperating.
John Bolton: Go to war.

Venezuela is working with Russia.
John Bolton: Go to war.

The delicatessen gave me pumpernickel instead of rye.
John Bolton: Go to war.

The toll collector gave me a Canadian quarter as change but won't accept one when I use it to pay.
John Bolton: . . .

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (NGyYx)

223 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (sjTfF)

224 John Cocktosin

Vote for him, he drives a bluegreen Oldsmobuick!

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (O8WFE)

225 Bret Baer saying that he had been hearing rumors for a week that Bolton had become a problem for Trump. Besides the Camp David disagreement South Korea was upset at Bolton talking about North Korea while they are trying to broker a peace deal with them and the Afghan government was complaining about his criticism of them.
Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 12:32 PM (t0g7x)

Baeir crafted this to sound like Trump is taking the side of the Norks and the Taliban over Bolton.

I want to hear more info.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (NFEMn)

226 1954 miles of border with Mexico. 65 miles of wall completed. 3.33%. Its a start.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (Ol/Jg)

227 Nobody resigns as National Security Advisor. They can dress it up all they want but he was fired.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (ZLI7S)

228 justice system justice.

Posted by: Chris M at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (eAZVt)

229 seems the only doctoring the FEMA chick did was on ledgers.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (ykYG2)

230 yes, let the burning begin, but let's not forget to exercise a few lamp posts along the way.
the left will simply not stop until they are stopped. days a coming

Posted by: micky at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (nizGE)

231 There was supposed to be a "not equals" in there.

Posted by: Chris M at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (eAZVt)

232 I doesn't matter whether or not we have "legal immunity" from those laws

If enough of us start violating them, as we should, their ability to enforce those laws goes away

Esp. if we lie to get on juries, then refuse to convict

Posted by: Greg Q at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (uhgWY)

233 223 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (sjTfF)

This doesn't bother me anymore. Good people stay (Ross, Mnuchin, Pompeo) and the ones who can't cut it get jettisoned. That's the way it goes. And it's hard finding good people -- anywhere.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (H8QX8)

234 217
BREAKING: The FEMA official in Puerto Rico, in charge of power
restoration after Hurricane Maria, has been arrested by the FBI, as has
the fmr. CEO of Cobra Energy (which got $1.8B in contracts) a 2nd
FEMA official...all accused of enriching themselves defrauding the
fed govt

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I assume you've already seen just how fun this is. The FEMA official is . . . a doctor. And a woman of color.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (13CQC)

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So, accusations backed up by evidence of wrongdoing against women of color is racist?

It'll be that we hear from the media or nothing.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (iikV8)

235 DJT wants a face to face meeting with the Talibans. No misunderstandings.
Something to the effect of "get your affairs in order".

Posted by: klaftern at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (RuIsu)

236 Drudge's take: Bolton Accuses President of Lying...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (+y/Ru)

237 213 NOW DFW news is reporting Trump fired Bolton.

Geez......

C'mon, media. Do Better.
Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:33 PM (Zz0t1)

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Dude he was fired. What do you ant the MSM to say?

Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (FiUMj)

238 I judge someone by who his enemies are. Judging by who overseas hated Bolton, he is OK in my book.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (p0A33)

239 The toll collector gave me a Canadian quarter as change but won't accept one when I use it to pay.
John Bolton: . . .
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (NGyYx)

To be fair, this one is a legit casus belli.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (RD7QR)

240 The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from

--------------------
Actually, no. Soros etc. have stacked the deck with their judges, so we have different rules.

Scooter Libby= jail.

Hillary= no intent
Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (l/6vt)

Yeah, and try to be a white guy in St. Louis, on the police force or off, and shoot a black guy. See how Kim Gardner's office handles the case.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (cY3LT)

241 Guessing that Bolton is demanding war stuff Trump doesn't want to get into. Prob Afghan withdrawal.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (nRWPy)

242 227 Nobody resigns as National Security Advisor. They can dress it up all they want but he was fired.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (ZLI7S)

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"I accept your resignation."

"What resign...oh..."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (iikV8)

243 Those arrested in PR by the FBI:

Ashna Nateef Tribble - FEMA

Donald Keith Ellison - Cobra Energy

Jovanda Patterson - Formerly FEMA, currently Cobra Energy

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (cF8AT)

244 I'm sure it's different out in the hinterland, but
here in the people's republic of alexandria in private school most of
these kids look like they've never had a meal. It's f-ing bizarre. (The
white kids. The black and hispanic kids look pretty normal). Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (nRWPy)
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Medications haven't been adjusted yet. ADHD drugs work like tranquilizers to kids, but as speed to adults. Dangerous stuff.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (MIKMs)

245 On the whole, I like John Bolton. He sees the UN as the useless grift that it is.

But if you cross the boss too many times...you gotta go.

Trump is President. You can advise but you also have to fall in line.

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (bcbK8)

246
Jon Tossoff is running to replace David Purdue.

He's the GA soiboi who did not live in the CD for which he was running and was basically sponging off his GF, right?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (pNxlR)

247 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

I did like Bolton, but I do wonder why Trump can't find any high-level prospective employees within the Beltway who aren't slimy ectothermic swamp things.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ykYG2)

248 Bolton, according to reports, had opposed the peace agreement with the Taliban that collapsed after Trump cancelled a secret meeting at Camp David between Taliban leaders and the president of Afghanistan.

Sounds like a reasonable position to me

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (p0A33)

249 They should have known they'd have Trouble with Miss Tribble.

Posted by: Broseidon - New Work Computer, Same Work Ethic at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (oZ6kz)

250 "221 My sense of the Bolton firing is this.

They disagreed. Bolton may have said he would go along, but Trump has had too many backstabbers. I don't know if Bolton would be such a person. But in DC, everyone knows personnel is policy. But really, what the President wants should be policy. If you don't like that, vote for someone new."

Trump never should have hired Bolton in the first place (ditto Wray, and who suggested these two should go). Yesterday, all the cuck and neocon outlets blasted their praise for Bolton and his scuttling our 19-year overdue from Afghanistan. Bolton was pushing that story, it's safe to bet.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (iw59Q)

251 Drudge musta been bought by the same shits that bought the rest of the cucks.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (nRWPy)

252 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

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Yes, but the environment he is in, he doesn't know who to trust. The DC environment has basically taught Trump that unless you are completely on board with his policy, they will work to undermine you.

I don't think all are like that, but the vast majority are. Again, don't know if Bolton would or wouldn't be. But Trump was not willing to take the chance with such an important position.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (sX1BW)

253 @realDonaldTrump:

One of the greatest and most powerful weapons used by the Fake and Corrupt News Media is the phony Polling Information they put out. Many of these polls are fixed, or worked in such a way that a certain candidate will look good or bad. Internal polling looks great, the best ever!

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This is something I always try to emphasize about polls: virtually 100% of the media are appendages of the Parties, mostly the Democrats.

The National Committees and candidates to whom these people are beholden spend millions upon millions of simoleons on expensive internal polls.

If they wanted to, they could simply hand those numbers off to their media mouthpieces and give them to the public easily. But they "don't" give them the polling data...

Instead, the media firms all have their own expensive polling units and partnerships with "independent" (LOL) pollsters.

Now "Why," you might ask yourself "are the Parties and their media organs keeping two sets of books?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (AzW6q)

254 I'm not sure why anyone is surprised that a guy whose best-known catchphrase is "You're fired." is prone to firing people when they displease him.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (cB5if)

255 245 On the whole, I like John Bolton. He sees the UN as the useless grift that it is.

But if you cross the boss too many times...you gotta go.

Trump is President. You can advise but you also have to fall in line.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (bcbK

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The flip side is if the president isn't taking your advice, then you aren't doing anyone any good. You should probably take the hint and resign.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (iikV8)

256
So Longfellow it is, then.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

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lol.

Hey, Jane D'oh, totally off-topic, but Ilhan Omar has gotten herself a new look. She changed her Twitter profile pic from this haughty sneer -- literally looking down her nose at the viewer -- to a new one where she's coyly smiling up at the camera from an angle as if she's cuddled under your arm, and she's gotten eyelash extensions and softened her whole look. Something's up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (13CQC)

257 Bolton texted Brian Kilmeade the Jock Sniffer made news guy by FUX that he RESIGNED

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (BqBId)

258 ell them to sit in the corner and jerk off since it will be just as effective.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 11:33 AM (dDUXP)

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We shall invade Carthage

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When they said salt the earth, they didn't mean that.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (+aZp3)

259 Paul could have died. He recently had surgery due to the injury of one of his lungs.

But muh education and background.
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Isn't the standard cry and wail of the Left that the "privileged" are coddled in this criminal justice system? And lo and behold, it's their own leftists doing this shit.

Posted by: Bicentennialguy at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (GWQ+R)

260 I liked Bolton's clarity on issues .. he claimed he was not a neo-con ... but certainly recognized most of our enemies respond to force, not patience with their lies. Trump seems to recognize we are "at war" but it is economic and cultural ... so far. The military might has to be there, but when to deploy ... and when to extend talks ... above my pay grade.

We certainly have the economic power to force many issues .. but we have to confront the China silk road, and win Western nations, bring them back from commie influence from Russia/China ... and deal with jihadists. A build out toward S America instead of the far East might be a worthy endeavor, idk.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (Cus5s)

261 247 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

I did like Bolton, but I do wonder why Trump can't find any high-level prospective employees within the Beltway who aren't slimy ectothermic swamp things.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ykYG2)

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I feel like you answered your own question there...

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (iikV8)

262 What about the mayor and governor at the time? The ones trashing Trump every 5 minutes all while nothing was distributed and the money was squandered?
Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:26 PM (Zz0t1)

As you say, both the Governor and the Mayor were/are hopelessly corrupt, and were constantly attacking Trump. One of the darkly amusing parts of the recent "scandal" in which the Governor was forced to resign was when he had to publicly swear that he was just joking after tapes emerged of him saying he wanted to hire a hit man to take care of the Mayor, since she was such a pain in his ass.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (Kpl3J)

263 I did like Bolton, but I do wonder why Trump can't
find any high-level prospective employees within the Beltway who aren't
slimy ectothermic swamp things.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (ykYG2)

Um, because there aren't any.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (nRWPy)

264 They look like they need an IV and a feeding tube. Seems like half these parents have starved them to death.

--

It could be vaping. It's becoming quite a problem with teens. He graduated last year, but my 18 year old nephew has a severe vaping addiction. He has literally lost over 50lbs in the past year and looks like he's dying.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (JoUsr)

265
Ashna Nateef Tribble - FEMA

Donald Keith Ellison - Cobra Energy

Jovanda Patterson - Formerly FEMA, currently Cobra Energy

Looks like the Marvel CU will have to go back to the well for new characters' names.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (pNxlR)

266 The FBI arresting a government official for corruption.

That is ironic.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (NGyYx)

267 He's the GA soiboi who did not live in the CD for which he was running and was basically sponging off his GF, right?

Personally if I'm in a position where I have to sponge off a GF, instead of wasting everyone's time running for office (yeah, I know) I'm going to the gym a lot and memorising Kama Sutra.

Someone's got to get value for money here.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (ykYG2)

268 > I do wonder why Trump can't find any high-level prospective employees within the Beltway who aren't slimy ectothermic swamp things.

Because DC is a cesspit, and has been forever.

You'd have better luck finding a virgin in a brothel.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (cB5if)

269 "240 The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from

--------------------
Actually, no. Soros etc. have stacked the deck with their judges, so we have different rules.

Scooter Libby= jail.

Hillary= no intent
Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 10, 2019 12:31 PM (l/6vt)

Yeah, and try to be a white guy in St. Louis, on the police force or off, and shoot a black guy. See how Kim Gardner's office handles the case."

Exactly. To the extent there are rules, they only apply to one group. Whether that's "new" or not is another matter.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (iw59Q)

270 Nobody resigns as National Security Advisor. They can dress it up all they want but he was fired.

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Still my favorite Trump move was the actual firing of Comey.

Didn't allow him to resign.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (sX1BW)

271 @222

Bolton is like too many military generals: they have a "bias for action" of the military sort.

I would rather they had a bias for thinking.

Posted by: Anonymous 7 at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (c+n3A)

272 Michael Bolton is dead?

Posted by: wth at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

273 I am pretty sure Bolton and Pompeo butted heads. One had to go. No big deal really. Life goes on

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (p0A33)

274 > Donald Keith Ellison - Cobra Energy

Wasn't Cobra Energy what Charlie Sheen claimed to have?

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (cB5if)

275 246
Jon Tossoff is running to replace David Purdue.

He's the GA soiboi who did not live in the CD for which he was running and was basically sponging off his GF, right?
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:36

He's far from spongeworhty

Posted by: Elaine Benes at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (N4xQB)

276 As pointed out by others, when ANY federal case is reversed on appeal, it always goes back to the same judge. Period.

I'd bet $1,000,000 against a jelly donut that she imposes a Guidelines sentence next time.

As I posted on the last thread, she's ALREADY retired-- she's on "senior status," i.e., working part time (at the pleasure of the district court chief judge), & handling a greatly-reduced caseload.

Most "senior status" judges stay on to help their courtroom staff find a new job, or accumulate a few more years of service themselves. Retired fed judges get exactly the same money whether they accept senior status or retire altogether.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (Cssks)

277 273 I am pretty sure Bolton and Pompeo butted heads. One had to go. No big deal really. Life goes on
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (p0A33)

==========

I've been assured that the wheels have fallen off the closing in walls.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (iikV8)

278 Simple solution.

Pardon Mike Flynn. Name him NSA, again.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (ZLI7S)

279 It's chaos in the WH - Impeach

(things the left would start saying in 3,2,1...)

Posted by: IC at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (a0IVu)

280 > Michael Bolton is dead?

Michael Bolt-On would be a good nickname for a tranny with a prosthetic dick.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (cB5if)

281 Which is where the real danger lies. We're already seeing Antifa escalate violence because they know they're going to get away with it.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at September 10, 2019 12:13 PM (k76MH)

And the, proper, response to that is people will just start shooting antifa members as soon as they show up.

How many people who don't like antifa are capable of setting up a sniper hide, firing off a couple shots, then disappearing before the cops can show up?

Posted by: Greg Q at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (uhgWY)

282
Hey, Jane D'oh, totally off-topic, but Ilhan Omar has gotten herself a new look. She changed her Twitter profile pic from this haughty sneer -- literally looking down her nose at the viewer -- to a new one where she's coyly smiling up at the camera from an angle as if she's cuddled under your arm, and she's gotten eyelash extensions and softened her whole look. Something's up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (13CQC)

Preggers. Bet on it.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (pNxlR)

283 280 > Michael Bolton is dead?

Michael Bolt-On would be a good nickname for a tranny with a prosthetic dick.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (cB5if)

"Detachable Penis"

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (bcbK8)

284 Ilhan Omar has gotten herself a new look. She changed her Twitter profile pic from this haughty sneer -- literally looking down her nose at the viewer -- to a new one where she's coyly smiling up at the camera from an angle as if she's cuddled under your arm, and she's gotten eyelash extensions and softened her whole look.

Someone needs her an American man, before she gets dropped back off in Mogadishu wearing nothing but giftwrap around her waist and a big red bow on her head.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (ykYG2)

285 278 Simple solution.

Pardon Mike Flynn. Name him NSA, again.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (ZLI7S)

There you go.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (H8QX8)

286 Dude he was fired. What do you ant the MSM to say?
Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (FiUMj)

They initially reported Bolton resigned. Then they come back 30 minutes later and say he was fired.

I want them to do some fucking research before the blow out "breaking news."

Oh, and how's Hell, you treasonous asshole.

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)

287 ...after Trump cancelled a secret meeting at Camp David between Taliban leaders and the president of Afghanistan.

After the Taliban with the Afghani Government staged a lethal bombing to promote the talks.

Unbeknownst to almost everyone, the major Taliban leaders and,
separately, the President of Afghanistan, were going to secretly meet
with me at Camp David on Sunday. They were coming to the United States
tonight. Unfortunately, in order to build false leverage, they admitted
to...
[1 of 3]

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/
1170469618177236992

Posted by: andycanuck at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (Dh1wo)

288 Michael Bolt-On would be a good nickname for a tranny with a prosthetic dick.
=====

Sorry - already taken

Posted by: Michelle O. at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (GWQ+R)

289 Cobra Energy is what you need to defeat The Karate Kid.

That and no mercy.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (NGyYx)

290 280 > Michael Bolton is dead?

Michael Bolt-On would be a good nickname for a tranny with a prosthetic dick.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:40 PM (cB5if)

Nooo...he can't die. He needs to keep making music for the Yacht Rock station.

Posted by: IC at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (a0IVu)

291 Rulings like this District Court Slug are the dying gasp of power of the Clinton/Carter/Obama judiciary. Now if only we could impeach some of the more obstinate resist judges or at least disqual them for extreme bias

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (thQkh)

292 286 Dude he was fired. What do you ant the MSM to say?
Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (FiUMj)

They initially reported Bolton resigned. Then they come back 30 minutes later and say he was fired.

I want them to do some fucking research before the blow out "breaking news."

Oh, and how's Hell, you treasonous asshole.
Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (Zz0t1)

==========

"Bolton is no longer National Security Adviser. Details are still coming in."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:41 PM (iikV8)

293 Probably inevitable. Both Bolton and Trump are strong personalities, and stubborn.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (Ol/Jg)

294 Hey, Jane D'oh, totally off-topic, but Ilhan Omar
has gotten herself a new look. She changed her Twitter profile pic from
this haughty sneer -- literally looking down her nose at the viewer --
to a new one where she's coyly smiling up at the camera from an angle as
if she's cuddled under your arm, and she's gotten eyelash extensions
and softened her whole look. Something's up.

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (13CQC)

In her homeland, that look would get her stoned.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (ptqGC)

295
Still my favorite Trump move was the actual firing of Comey.

Didn't allow him to resign.
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (sX1BW)

And notifying him as he was speaking at a conference across the country.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (pNxlR)

296 Well, it seems like that's one of those things that's an activity, not an achievement. We still don't know what it'll come to.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia

True. But over the last 48 years, Trump is the only one with even an activity trophy.

Although, Tricky Dick did get into China.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (WavOX)

297 Roland, I read that at first as 50 paces with PBR, so Pabst blue ribbon. THAT would make for an interesting duel!

Posted by: LizLem

Ok, but they have to be long necks.

Posted by: Roland THTG at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (88+cf)

298 The appeals court agreed, and scolded the lower judge for illegally
using the criterion that the attacker was "educated" as a reason for
going outside the guidelines to give him the lightest of all taps on the
wrist.

=======

"If you went to Graduate School in the Ivy League you can commit treason with impunity. It's right there in the Statute of Liberty clause of the Constitution." -- Random Leftist Hack pretending to be a Judge

Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (WqPYg)

299 Time for the left to spew nonsense claiming the NSA works for the country and not the President, and so of course Trump should be impeached even though we have hated Bolton for his whole career.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:43 PM (sX1BW)

300 255 245 On the whole, I like John Bolton. He sees the UN as the useless grift that it is.

But if you cross the boss too many times...you gotta go.

Trump is President. You can advise but you also have to fall in line.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (bcbK

=========

The flip side is if the president isn't taking your advice, then you aren't doing anyone any good. You should probably take the hint and resign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (iikV

I'm guessing John isn't good at hints

Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 10, 2019 12:43 PM (bcbK8)

301 265
Ashna Nateef Tribble - FEMA

Donald Keith Ellison - Cobra Energy

Jovanda Patterson - Formerly FEMA, currently Cobra Energy

Looks like the Marvel CU will have to go back to the well for new characters' names.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (pNxlR)

Yeah, "Ashna Nateef Tribble" sounds like she's secretly FURRY WOMAN! Powers: Able to make cosplay/Comicon soi bois horny with her Booty of Death!

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:43 PM (RD7QR)

302 And turn in your mustache!!!!

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:43 PM (NGyYx)

303 298 The appeals court agreed, and scolded the lower judge for illegally
using the criterion that the attacker was "educated" as a reason for
going outside the guidelines to give him the lightest of all taps on the
wrist.

=======

"If you went to Graduate School in the Ivy League you can commit treason with impunity. It's right there in the Statute of Liberty clause of the Living Constitution that only progressive judges are allowed to see or modify." -- Random Leftist Hack pretending to be a Judge
Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (WqPYg)

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Suggested edit.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:43 PM (iikV8)

304 Yes, but the environment he is in, he doesn't know who to trust. The DC environment has basically taught Trump that unless you are completely on board with his policy, they will work to undermine you.

He wanted someone tough like Bolton but Bolton couldn't finesse his opinions enough to be a team player.

If you're on the team you must project the boss first.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 12:43 PM (hSSpd)

305 Jon Ossoff moved into his girlfriend's apartment for his last run. His actual address wasn't in the district he was running in.

Typical Democrat.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (ptqGC)

306 Still my favorite Trump move was the actual firing of Comey.

Didn't allow him to resign.
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (sX1BW)

And notifying him as he was speaking at a conference across the country.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (pNxlR)

Actually it was a stupid amatuerish thing to do and may have ultimately lead to mueller

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (p0A33)

307 Scaramucci will have a field day with this.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (NGyYx)

308 Looks like the Marvel CU will have to go back to the well for new characters' names.

---

reminds me PJ media article saying that Rian Johnson is going to defy audience expectations in Knives Out and attack Trump Voters!

oh my...

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (thQkh)

309 FEMA vs. Cobra Energy!

Next on Battlebots!

Posted by: Chris M at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (eAZVt)

310 It is absolutely insane that the Rand Paul attacker got off so lightly.

Leftists from bottom to the top really do love violence for their cause and find ways to justify it.

This should be an easy "let's make him an example" when someone brutalizes a standing US Senator over ideological reasons.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (sjTfF)

311 Isn't the standard cry and wail of the Left that the "privileged" are coddled in this criminal justice system? And lo and behold, it's their own leftists doing this shit.

Didn't you know? It doesn't matter how rich or connected a liberal is, he/ she cannot be "privileged."

Only conservatives and republicans are "privileged."

/it's the new law in Chinatown baby

Posted by: shibumi, in house selling hell at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (l/6vt)

312 Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs
This source close to Bolton noted to us that this White House, under Bolton's leadership, has seen "no bad deals" in North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, etc.

Eamon Javers @EamonJavers
A source close to Bolton just said this: "Since Ambassador Bolton has been National Security advisor over the last 17 months, there have been no bad deals."
*******
Bolton seems like he is trying to rehabilitate himself in some way

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (BqBId)

313 They were from the government, they were there to... help themselves.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM

FIFY.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (dkvcO)

314

You hearing this caller on Rush, now?

She could be a fraud. Sounds like she's trying to make
a Fake News headline: Rush Limbaugh Tell Trump To Stop
Tweeting.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (kGJFi)

315
It could be vaping. It's becoming quite a problem with teens. He graduated last year, but my 18 year old nephew has a severe vaping addiction. He has literally lost over 50lbs in the past year and looks like he's dying.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (JoUsr)

--------

Ooooh, I hate to break it to you, but that's almost certainly not from vaping. Like 99.9999% likely that it's a different addiction.

That, or a serious health problem.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (AzW6q)

316 It could be vaping. It's becoming quite a problem
with teens. He graduated last year, but my 18 year old nephew has a
severe vaping addiction. He has literally lost over 50lbs in the past
year and looks like he's dying.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (JoUsr)
I doubt it. Cigarettes didn't do that, I don't see why vaping would. They're not vaping, they've looked like that since kindergarten. I thought they'd hit adolescence and grow, put on some weight. They're getting a bit taller but still look like concentration camp victims. It's mostly the boys. I think it's "gaming." They're having trouble getting enough kids to field teams all over the country. We just had an exhibition game cancelled in Buffalo because they can't field a team. In Buffalo they can't field a FOOTBALL team?

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (nRWPy)

317 You know, maybe Bolton isn't quite on board with trump's scale down of US conflicts overseas...just saying.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (thQkh)

318
Jovanda Handjob? No, how about Jovanda Blowjob?

-- Marvel CU staffers seeking new names

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (pNxlR)

319 Bolton was a crazy NeoCon that basically shared McCain's view of the American military. That basically it should be everywhere and finding dumb wars to fight.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (sjTfF)

320 I remember all the arguments for going into Afghanistan, and for staying in Afghanistan. I used to believe them, I used to repeat them. Even now, they still sound good, but... things have changed. I look at that situation now, and I think "18 years? Really? We've been there 18 years?" And the situation isn't changing, it isn't getting better, there's no light at the end of the tunnel. When an American soldier dies there, like happened last week, what is he dying for? What have all of the soldiers who've died there over the last 15 years died for? Certainly not to make that country "better", because that hasn't happened, and that's not going to happen.

Tell me why it's worth sacrificing their lives without end. Tell me what their deaths accomplish.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (Kpl3J)

321
Scaramucci will have a field day with this.

Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (NGyYx)

I think he's still pissed that Kimberly Guilfoyle dumped him for Don, Jr.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (ptqGC)

322 You hearing this caller on Rush, now?

+++

she's a very concerned suburban wife. Very.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (thQkh)

323 Still my favorite Trump move was the actual firing of Comey.

Didn't allow him to resign.
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (sX1BW)

And notifying him as he was speaking at a conference across the country.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (pNxlR)

Actually it was a stupid amatuerish thing to do and may have ultimately lead to mueller

-------------

The only thing he did wrong was not doing it soon enough. But we were going to get a Mueller one way or another.

Firing Comey was awesome and I want to see more of it.

Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (sX1BW)

324 On the whole, I like John Bolton. He sees the UN as the useless grift that it is.

But if you cross the boss too many times...you gotta go.

Trump is President. You can advise but you also have to fall in line.
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (bcbK

=========

The flip side is if the president isn't taking your advice, then you aren't doing anyone any good. You should probably take the hint and resign.
Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (iikV

To be bluntly honest, there are lots of these guys who cut their teeth in the Reagan White House, then spent time working their way up the ranks in both Bush Administrations.

They're used to Presidents not being in the loop.

This one is. And when you pull your usual bullshit gotcha games of fighting among yourselves, to see who gets to the President's ear, for your own glory and aggrandizement, this President doesn't look too favorably on that nonsense.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (cY3LT)

325 317 You know, maybe Bolton isn't quite on board with trump's scale down of US conflicts overseas...just saying.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (thQkh)

==========

"Didn't you see my plan for invading Luxembourg?"
-Bolton

"Yeah, I saw it, John."
-Trump

"Well...?"
-Bolton

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (iikV8)

326 @MZHemingway 6 minutes ago

Interesting to see how many reporters Bolton has on speed dial for texting and what not.

I really hope Bolton isn't like that....

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (cF8AT)

327 In SC he would be guilty of assault and battery of a "moderate nature.

(2) A person who violates this subsection is guilty of a misdemeanor,
and, upon conviction, must be fined not more than two thousand five
hundred dollars, or imprisoned for not more than three years, or both.

So he "could" have got a $2500 fine and 3 years in jail.

Posted by: Vic at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (mpXpK)

328 No new wall has been built. What has been "built" is redoing the shitty fencing GWB put up and Obama Obama neglected. But there's been nothing new erected.

Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (FiUMj)

329 I doubt it. Cigarettes didn't do that, I don't see why vaping would. They're not vaping, they've looked like that since kindergarten. I thought they'd hit adolescence and grow, put on some weight. They're getting a bit taller but still look like concentration camp victims. It's mostly the boys. I think it's "gaming." They're having trouble getting enough kids to field teams all over the country. We just had an exhibition game cancelled in Buffalo because they can't field a team. In Buffalo they can't field a FOOTBALL team?

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (nRWPy)

Gaming doesn't make you skinnier, regrettably. Unless you mean something not video game related.

Posted by: Someguy at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (Wj9tV)

330 This makes white privilege look like it's real. But it's leftist privilege.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (nRWPy)

331 "Didn't you see my plan for invading Luxembourg?"
-Bolton

"Yeah, I saw it, John."
-Trump

"Well...?"
-Bolton

+++++++

but we need to be in Afghanistan forever with all the troops!

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (thQkh)

332 > In her homeland, that look would get her stoned.

One of many. The adultery would do it, also. As would the brother-fucking. And the wandering around without a male guardian. And...

Islam has basically the same rules on incest as Judaism and Christianity (some Christian denominations don't allow cousin marriages, others do). Brothers are right out.

They also have some unusual restrictions, for instance you can't marry a woman from whom you've suckled as a baby, nor any of her children. I guess this is considered as a near mother-and-child or near-sibling situation.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (cB5if)

333 You hearing this caller on Rush, now?

She could be a fraud. Sounds like she's trying to make
a Fake News headline: Rush Limbaugh Tell Trump To Stop
Tweeting.
Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (kGJFi)

She sounds like the psycho broad that keeps calling WBAP and screaming that Texas will turn blue unless they legalize pot........

Pharmaceuticals are KILLING brains.

Posted by: Sponge at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (Zz0t1)

334
>>>she's a very concerned suburban wife. Very.

From California, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (kGJFi)

335 The only thing he did wrong was not doing it soon enough. But we were going to get a Mueller one way or another.

Firing Comey was awesome and I want to see more of it.
Posted by: SH at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (sX1BW)

Yes I would have fired him day one, but to humiliated him in public like that, in a manner I never saw before, was stupid. Remember hold your friends close but your enemies closer

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (p0A33)

336 330 This makes white privilege look like it's real. But it's leftist privilege.

++++

I'm not so sure about Battani, could be a red dot name.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (thQkh)

337
305 Jon Ossoff moved into his girlfriend's apartment for his last run. His actual address wasn't in the district he was running in.

Typical Democrat.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (ptqGC)

So, per his standard practice, he'll run for GA Senator while residing in Chattanooga, TN?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (pNxlR)

338 Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (cF8AT)
*******
Deep Stater

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (BqBId)

339 326 @MZHemingway 6 minutes ago

Interesting to see how many reporters Bolton has on speed dial for texting and what not.

If Molly says it....

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (O2RFr)

340 Let's see . . . 30 days in jail vs. months of recovery (and additional related stuff like pneumonia, IIRC), numerous surgeries, continued health issues and follow-up procedures to this day.

Yeah, that seems TOTALLY just!

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (bDqIh)

341 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

Disagree. Correcting mistakes quickly is a good thing.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (ZGrMX)

342 Looks like that white privilege is coming apart at the seams. I fucking love it. Hope Antifa likes jail rape, which they do judging by how many cracks they make about it.

Posted by: trev006 at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (Lvrv/)

343 I think we should be out of Afghanistan, it should have happened 10 years ago.

I will say though the optics of the Taliban at Camp David were absolutely awful. That was a genuinely stupid decision whoever made it.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (sjTfF)

344 He has literally lost over 50lbs in the past
year and looks like he's dying.

Yikes - I think you know already that massive unintentional weight loss over time is one of the big red flags. A very bad sign.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (Kpl3J)

345 This one is. And when you pull your usual bullshit gotcha games of fighting among yourselves, to see who gets to the President's ear, for your own glory and aggrandizement, this President doesn't look too favorably on that nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (cY3LT)

___

But Trump supposedly also likes it when his minions fight amongst themselves.

Who the fuck knows what's happening?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (FiUMj)

346 303 Madison

I realize your first paragraph was a quote from another post.

However, I'm too lazy to hunt the original post.

The Sixth Circuit did NOT find that the judge "illegally" sentenced Paul's attacker. They found that she made a legal error. That's a helluva different thing.

If every trial judge who made an error at one time or another had acted "illegally," there wouldn't be enough jails to hold them all.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (Cssks)

347 >>>she's a very concerned suburban wife. Very.

From California, too.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:47 PM (kGJFi)
........

Third or fourth marriage?

Posted by: wth at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (v0R5T)

348 Bolton is an America First advocate and always has been. I assume Trump knew exactly who he was hiring. Bolton's positions and strategy have been consistent for decades. Then again maybe Trump didn't do his homework and just made a hiring decision on a feeling.

The revolving door and acrimonious departures is getting ridiculous. ( I do believe Bolton will not be one that will publicize any negative feelings toward the President)

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (2DOZq)

349 >>>Wasn't Cobra Energy what Charlie Sheen claimed to have?
<<<

Tiger Blood. A tiger with HIV.

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (kLDv+)

350 312 Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs
This source close to Bolton noted to us that this White House, under Bolton's leadership, has seen "no bad deals" in North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, etc.

Eamon Javers @EamonJavers
A source close to Bolton just said this: "Since Ambassador Bolton has been National Security advisor over the last 17 months, there have been no bad deals."
*******
Bolton seems like he is trying to rehabilitate himself in some way
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (BqBId)

I could be wrong but...have there been ANY deals in those regions?

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (cF8AT)

351 I'm not crazy about there being a special law against assaulting members of Congress, as distinct from anyone else. Maybe a penalty if you do so out of season, but that's as far as it should go.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (VaN/j)

352 Trump's tweet explicitly says...." I asked John for his resignation."

So it's semantics, isn't it? Is asking someone for their resignation actually "firing?" I think no, that's what you do if they don't tender their resignation.

This is media bullshit so they can accuse Trump of lying again.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (NFEMn)

353
But there's been nothing new erected.
Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM (FiUMj)

The irony, Juan! It burns, does it not?

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (pNxlR)

354 >>>She could be a fraud. Sounds like she's trying to make a Fake News headline: Rush Limbaugh Tell Trump To Stop Tweeting.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (kGJFi)

Upon hearing a person speak those words their opinion is reduced by a factor of 50.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (hSSpd)

355 I will say though the optics of the Taliban at Camp
David were absolutely awful. That was a genuinely stupid decision
whoever made it.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (sjTfF)

This. And they'd need a hazmat team to delouse the place after they left.

Better place to meet? Gitmo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (ptqGC)

356 Actually it was a stupid amatuerish thing to do and may have ultimately lead to mueller
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (p0A33)

Sessions led to Mueller. The worst Trump hire of all.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (H8QX8)

357 The facts in the Rand Paul case are interesting. Paul (or somebody at his house) had put some tree limbs and other lawn debris in a pile near the property line with the neighbor. The neighbor didn't like looking at the pile of branches, and was upset it was there. But he didn't call Paul or walk over to ask him to move it or have it hauled off, he just steamed about it.

When the pile was still there a couple of days later, the neighbor had it hauled away himself. Then a few days later another pile appears, and the neighbor is even more pissed. Again, he goes onto Paul's property and hauls the stuff away himself. Then a third pile shows up, and this time the neighbor decides he's going to teach Paul a lesson. He pours accelerant over the pile and lights it on fire, but in the process he gives himself 2nd degree burns on his face and neck. Now he's really mad, and when he sees Paul on his lawn mower the next day, that's when he runs over and tackles him.

If this neighbor guy had just picked up the phone or walked across the yard and rang Paul's doorbell and politely asked him not to pile tree debris in his yard (or have it hauled away more quickly, or whatever), then none of this would have happened. Paul wouldn't have life-long injuries to deal with, Boucher wouldn't be headed to federal prison and he also wouldn't have a $500k civil judgment to pay Paul. But no, basic civility was too much to expect from this fine, upstanding, well-educated doctor who was a pillar of his community.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (k4dH2)

358 Bolton had plenty of time to impart his wisdom on foreign affairs to Trump ... and Trump probably gleaned some sound ideas/insights. So it was not necessarily all just a waste of time and effort ... kinda hard to know ... maybe Trump made good use of Bolton, now time to move another person in to move the ball further ... (so we hope)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (Cus5s)

359 This is the downside of having a political novice as President. Not being in DC for 30 years and learning who the players are, keeps you from making good hiring decisions. Bolton may have looked good on paper, but he was a stranger to Trump. Same goes for the 100 others he hired and then fired 5 minutes later.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (FiUMj)

360 Gaming doesn't make you skinnier, regrettably. Unless you mean something not video game related.

Posted by: Someguy

Sure it does, assuming you're sitting in front of a screen instead of running around outside.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (T6t7i)

361 > If every trial judge who made an error at one time or another had acted "illegally," there wouldn't be enough jails to hold them all.

We can build more jails.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (cB5if)

362

When asked for your resignation, you're given an ultimatum.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (kGJFi)

363 Jennifer Jacobs @JenniferJJacobs
This source close to Bolton noted to us that this White House, under Bolton's leadership, has seen "no bad deals" in North Korea, Afghanistan, Iran, Syria, etc.

Eamon Javers @EamonJavers
A source close to Bolton just said this: "Since Ambassador Bolton has been National Security advisor over the last 17 months, there have been no bad deals."
*******
Bolton seems like he is trying to rehabilitate himself in some way
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (BqBId)

I could be wrong but...have there been ANY deals in those regions?
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (cF8AT)

Bolton is implying that --IF NOT FOR HIM-- Trump would have made ALL Bad Deals.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (NFEMn)

364 351 I'm not crazy about there being a special law against assaulting members of Congress, as distinct from anyone else. Maybe a penalty if you do so out of season, but that's as far as it should go.

Posted by: Eeyore at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (VaN/j)

I think the idea is to discourage people from mugging congresscritters to cause them to miss votes.

Posted by: Someguy at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (Wj9tV)

365 You're fired!

You can't fire me, I quit!

Posted by: Chris M at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (eAZVt)

366 >>If every trial judge who made an error at one time or another had acted "illegally," there wouldn't be enough jails to hold them all.

Sounds like we need more jails.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (ZLI7S)

367 Actually it was a stupid amatuerish thing to do and may have ultimately lead to mueller
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (p0A33)

Sessions led to Mueller. The worst Trump hire of all.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (H8QX

Sessions absurd reclusel was a big part of it yes, but the comey shit was the final match

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (p0A33)

368 "8 Simple solution.

Pardon Mike Flynn. Name him NSA, again."

That would be awesome, but the Marxists probably have yanked his security clearance already.

Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (iw59Q)

369 >>The revolving door and acrimonious departures is getting ridiculous.

The Pool they are pulling these people from is what is ridiculous.

The professional class in DC isn't exclusively qualified to fill these positions.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (0Uei+)

370 > But there's been nothing new erected.
> Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM

You should've asked Bob Dole for advice on that, John.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (cB5if)

371 This is the downside of having a political novice as President. Not being in DC for 30 years and learning who the players are, keeps you from making good hiring decisions. Bolton may have looked good on paper, but he was a stranger to Trump. Same goes for the 100 others he hired and then fired 5 minutes later.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (FiUMj)

True, but if he wasn't a political novice, Trump would be Deep State.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (NFEMn)

372 Michael Bolton is dead?
Posted by: wth at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

---

No. Just his career.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (8XRCm)

373 Bolton is implying that --IF NOT FOR HIM-- Trump would have made ALL Bad Deals.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (NFEMn)

Right...the guy who wrote a book on 'deals'.

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (cF8AT)

374 Does the NSA be "okayed" by the Senate ?

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (O2RFr)

375

Rush: I think we need Trump's tweets more than ever.

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (kGJFi)

376 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (1XAal)

377 371 This is the downside of having a political novice as President. Not being in DC for 30 years and learning who the players are, keeps you from making good hiring decisions. Bolton may have looked good on paper, but he was a stranger to Trump. Same goes for the 100 others he hired and then fired 5 minutes later.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (FiUMj)

True, but if he wasn't a political novice, Trump would be Deep State.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (NFEMn)

__

Yeah I know, damned if you do, and if you don't.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (FiUMj)

378 360 Gaming doesn't make you skinnier, regrettably. Unless you mean something not video game related.

Posted by: Someguy

Sure it does, assuming you're sitting in front of a screen instead of running around outside.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (T6t7i)

Idk if there's some weird generational biology going on here, but people who run are skinny. Sitting on your ass does not burn the calories.

Posted by: Someguy at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (Wj9tV)

379
359 This is the downside of having a political novice as President.

Oh, decidedly, Jeb!, with the extensive network of Bushites, would have served us far better up through now. Comity, thy name is Jeb!

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (pNxlR)

380 372 Michael Bolton is dead?
Posted by: wth at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

---

No. Just his career.

Not so fast!

Posted by: CNN at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (O2RFr)

381 Does the NSA be "okayed" by the Senate ?
Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (O2RFr)

No.

Posted by: Surfperch at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (l1sdS)

382 Right...the guy who wrote a book on 'deals'.
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (cF8AT)

___

I wrote a book too!!
- every politician

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (FiUMj)

383 but in the process he gives himself 2nd degree burns on his face and neck.

So he's smart too.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (nRWPy)

384 This one is. And when you pull your usual bullshit gotcha games of fighting among yourselves, to see who gets to the President's ear, for your own glory and aggrandizement, this President doesn't look too favorably on that nonsense.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12

One of Fox's WH reporters said that he was hearing off the record, so he couldn't name names, that senior officials in the WH were getting tired of Bolton coming to them with his opinion.
So the above is probably spot on. Trump has said he likes having people who have divergent opinions on his staff as he wants to hear all sides.

But as Mr. Jen said to me , from his experience, once you have given your opinion and the boss decides you are moving in the opposite direction as a team, you better get on that team, keep your opinion to yourself , and do everything you can to move the team forward as per the boss' direction. You cannot have someone on the team crying and whining to everyone else about the decision and doing everything they can to sabatoage the plan by trying to peel others off to their side.

Bolton, I believe, was NOT a team player.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (t0g7x)

385 >>This is the downside of having a political novice as President. Not being in DC for 30 years and learning who the players are, keeps you from making good hiring decisions. Bolton may have looked good on paper, but he was a stranger to Trump. Same goes for the 100 others he hired and then fired 5 minutes later.

I honestly do not give a shit. I hired Trump to do a job. I don't care about his hiring and firing policies or what subcontractors he brings on.

I care about the end product. So far he's one of the best hires I've ever made.

Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

386 Kill the waaaaaabit

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (RD7QR)

387 I want MORE political novices in DC. The experienced have proved themselves incompetent. And worse, corrupt and evil.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (Ol/Jg)

388
Michael Bolton is dead?
Posted by: wth at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

That's a real shame -- I loved him in Office Space.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (pNxlR)

389 You need to consider the social context before passing sentence, obviously.

Posted by: The East German Judicary at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (I2/tG)

390 367 Actually it was a stupid amatuerish thing to do and may have ultimately lead to mueller
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:44 PM (p0A33)

Sessions led to Mueller. The worst Trump hire of all.

++++

I disagree...Ryan and maybe Mitch McConnell led to Mueller because they signalled they may be kinda sorta on board impeaching Trump.

Memba, the whole swamp/resist crew wanted impeachment day after the election. The reason to be named later. They don't have the guts to call it a purely political vote of no-confidence, so like the gutless fascists theyall are, they dressed in some sort of criminal fantasy.

If the GOP had told the swamp to fuck off unless they had real evidence...and if the GOP had said, let's cash you outside with these fisa warrants and Hillary's russian contacts...then this would have died 2 years ago.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (thQkh)

391 The Pool they are pulling these people from is what is ridiculous.

As the great article on Brexit in the sidebar notes about the similar hiring situation in the UK, "political professionals who aren't in thrall to the deep state" isn't exactly an overflowing container.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (ZGrMX)

392 Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 12:49 PM (2DOZq)
*******
Don't know how to break this to you, but he is speed calling & Texting the reporters on his phone shitting on Trump

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (BqBId)

393 Progressives always boast about how educated and well-informed they are. It's their greatest conceit.

Posted by: gp, Decaffeinated By Popular Demand at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (mk9aG)

394 I don't have an opinion on the Bolton resignation. I know that I don't know enough about the inner workings of the White House to be able to tell whether or not Bolton was or was not a positive force for the policies that I like out of Trump (or vice versa). I'm not particularly worried about the cabinet resignations tally either.

If Trump's foreign policy starts to go downhill we'll be able to point to this as a bad decision, but until then I don't have any real reference point to judge one way or the other.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (KUaJL)

395 Idk if there's some weird generational biology going
on here, but people who run are skinny. Sitting on your ass does not
burn the calories.

Posted by: Someguy

There's skinny, and then there's totally lacking in muscle tone. You can tell a distance runner. You can also tell a couch potato.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (T6t7i)

396 I'm not crazy about there being a special law against assaulting members of Congress, as distinct from anyone else. Maybe a penalty if you do so out of season, but that's as far as it should go.
Posted by: Eeyore

_____________

I think if it's politically motivated, there should be. I understand that can make it seem like unequal justice, but just like you can't joke about killing the President.

Look, if I could beat the shit out of Obama and get a slap on the wrist, sign me up. You would have millions of people assaulting leaders.

Either start a real revolution or not, but if you let this stuff slide, Republicans will routinely be getting the shit beat of them and no one will want to run for office on our side because the law is not really protecting them or their families.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (sjTfF)

397 379
359 This is the downside of having a political novice as President.

Oh, decidedly, Jeb!, with the extensive network of Bushites, would have served us far better up through now. Comity, thy name is Jeb!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (pNxlR)

___

Jesus fucking Christ. I didn't say Jeb would be better. I stated an objective fact that when one isn't in politics all their lives, it makes it hard to know well political types.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (FiUMj)

398 The District Court Judge is a Clinton appointee, Senior Judge in her late 70's. The three Circuit Court Judges were Bush, Obama and Trump appointees. Read their decision last night and they pretty much slapped the old lady like she was a 1L student too stupid to breathe. The comparable 30 day sentence under this law was an egg thrown at a Congressman decades ago.

Posted by: Ever at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (ZZDMQ)

399 Tell me why it's worth sacrificing their lives without end. Tell me what their deaths accomplish.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (Kpl3J)

========

I believe the standard neocon line (which, like you I'm no longer buying) is WE'RE FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM OVER HERE!!!
Bring our troops home and put them on the borders and ports. You know, like actually DEFEND THE COUNTRY.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (WqPYg)

400 DON'T EVER FORGET FUX NEWS HIRED HIM AS A FOREIGN AFFAIRS GUY

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (BqBId)

401 It could be vaping. It's becoming quite a problem
with teens. He graduated last year, but my 18 year old nephew has a
severe vaping addiction. He has literally lost over 50lbs in the past
year and looks like he's dying.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 12:38 PM (JoUsr)
I doubt it. Cigarettes didn't do that, I don't see why vaping would. They're not vaping, they've looked like that since kindergarten. I thought they'd hit adolescence and grow, put on some weight. They're getting a bit taller but still look like concentration camp victims. It's mostly the boys. I think it's "gaming." They're having trouble getting enough kids to field teams all over the country. We just had an exhibition game cancelled in Buffalo because they can't field a team. In Buffalo they can't field a FOOTBALL team?
Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (nRWPy)

Well, maybe these are DIY vaping liquids and capsules.

Which often contain illegal drugs.

Not a smoker at all, but I've never seen anyone respond to nicotine like that.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (SHtRW)

402
Who was in that audio clip that Rush just played?

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (kGJFi)

403 >>In her homeland, that look would get her stoned.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:42 PM (ptqGC)

She looks stoned, in any case.

Posted by: Caliban at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (QE8X6)

404 On June 15, 1215 a group of rich, old, well armed white guys met with the King of England in a field near Windsor and asked him to sign a document that is called the Magna Carta. One of the requirements of that document was that whatever laws the rich old white guys had to obey the King also had to obey. King John signed the document and then later that year or the next tried to get the Pope to declare the document as invalid. Too late. The rich old white guys told the man in Rome who wears dresses to pound sand. I find it interesting that many times the folks who try to screw over the individual seem to always wear costumes to make themselves appear credible.

Posted by: rich at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (BATdn)

405 I honestly do not give a shit. I hired Trump to do a job. I don't care about his hiring and firing policies or what subcontractors he brings on.

I care about the end product. So far he's one of the best hires I've ever made.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

Amen Yup

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (p0A33)

406 385 >>This is the downside of having a political novice as President. Not being in DC for 30 years and learning who the players are, keeps you from making good hiring decisions. Bolton may have looked good on paper, but he was a stranger to Trump. Same goes for the 100 others he hired and then fired 5 minutes later.

I honestly do not give a shit.

++++

yup.

personnel mistakes...so what?

Trump's mistakes were signing bad budget deals that made making his border wall nearly impossible.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (thQkh)

407 I will say though the optics of the Taliban at Camp David were absolutely awful. That was a genuinely stupid decision whoever made it.
Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (sjTfF)

that I agree with. It should have taken place on an aircraft carrier, or perhaps on Diego Garcia.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (Kpl3J)

408 Trump fires Bolton. Good. He never should have been hired. That man is not to be trusted.

Posted by: creeper at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (IBQUk)

409 Same fucking conversation we have every time someone significant leaves the administration. They are all assholes who didn't support the President.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (2DOZq)

410 355 I will say though the optics of the Taliban at Camp David were absolutely awful. That was a genuinely stupid decision whoever made it.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:48 PM (sjTfF)
------------------

This. And they'd need a hazmat team to delouse the place after they left.

Better place to meet? Gitmo.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at September 10, 2019 12:50 PM (ptqGC)
-----------------------

This is Trump's style. An offering them a Camp David meet was the ultimate hospitality and they countered by murdering 12 people.

Now all the rest of the Muslim world cannot deny what they are. Trump has more leverage with them than ever.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (hSSpd)

411 I was edumacated.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Bundy at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (vtcmf)

412 Bolton is implying that --IF NOT FOR HIM-- Trump would have made ALL Bad Deals.
Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 12:51 PM (NFEMn)

And people wonder why he was fired. What a pompous ass.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (t0g7x)

413 Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (FiUMj)
******
Do you get off on being Laughably dumb ??

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (BqBId)

414 I remember all the arguments for going into Afghanistan, and for staying in Afghanistan. I used to believe them, I used to repeat them. Even now, they still sound good, but... things have changed. I look at that situation now, and I think "18 years? Really? We've been there 18 years?" And the situation isn't changing, it isn't getting better, there's no light at the end of the tunnel. When an American soldier dies there, like happened last week, what is he dying for? What have all of the soldiers who've died there over the last 15 years died for? Certainly not to make that country "better", because that hasn't happened, and that's not going to happen.

Tell me why it's worth sacrificing their lives without end. Tell me what their deaths accomplish.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:45 PM (Kpl3J)

As a mental exercise, one can take a step back, and analyze this concept: We're negotiating with the Taliban. Regarding Afghanistan's future.

After 18 flippin' years, we're negotiating. WITH. THE. TALIBAN.

If that doesn't scream "FAILURE" for this entire 18 year adventure, I don't know what does.

More of the same is not going to make anything better. Time to get out. Yesterday.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (cY3LT)

415 Comedy relief. Some Italian rescue workers are very excited about rescuing a kitten.

https://bit.ly/2lIm076

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (+y/Ru)

416 "The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from,
are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from." ace

but we have to have a few million to spend on lawyers to accomplish that ... or we have to build our own mafias, take over our own state governments.

"They" can ignore the laws because they have the crime syndicate and/or DeepState to enforce their non-compliance. The corollary in theory needs the corollary enforcement power to back up implementation of the theoretical.

If one doesn't have his own judge in the pocket, and a murderous gang enforcement agency, one should not consider his "theoretical immunity" a valid license to ignore the law. But establishing the principle equal justice is noble.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (Cus5s)

417 >>As the great article on Brexit in the sidebar notes about the similar hiring situation in the UK, "political professionals who aren't in thrall to the deep state" isn't exactly an overflowing container.

Yep. ...but.

There is NO reason that you need Political Thralls to fill the seats. There is not a job in DC that couldn't be done, better, by a hire from the Private Sector.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (0Uei+)

418 But there's been nothing new erected.
Posted by: John McCain at September 10, 2019 12:46 PM

This is a, how do you say, true story.

In all times and all places, The Paolo he is there.

Posted by: Paolo at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (ejd/p)

419 406 385 >>This is the downside of having a political novice as President.

Name someone who isn't a "political novice" who also isn't Deep State.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (Kpl3J)

420 I would have negotiated with the Taliban in The Arabian Sea, near the spot where we dumped UBL's stinking corpse.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (VpIIl)

421
Idk if there's some weird generational biology
going on here, but people who run are skinny. Sitting on your ass does
not burn the calories.

Posted by: Someguy at September 10, 2019 12:53 PM (Wj9tV)

Not eating makes you skinny, exercise has little to do with it. You can't outrun a bad diet. They don't look fit, they look like concentration camp victims and they've never played a sport in their life. They'd cry if they caught a football. They can barely manage a backpack. It's pathetic.

Posted by: dagny at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (nRWPy)

422 is is the downside of having a political novice as President. Not being in DC for 30 years and learning who the players are, keeps you from making good hiring decisions.

+++

this crap also reminds me of the silly "But Hillary's like an eye doctor, you want a doctor with experience to operate on your eyes, righttttt????"

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (thQkh)

423 The problem is we currently have a two tiered justice system already with no signs of change.

If a deplorable/normie attacked this judge like this leftwing scumbag attacked Paul 10 years of hard time would be the minimum.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (3cfl2)

424 Well, maybe these are DIY vaping liquids and capsules.

Which often contain illegal drugs.

All of the much-hyped "vaping deaths" thus far have been kids trying to put pot into e-cigs and vape it rather than people vaping as intended. Democrats have seized on it to start banning vaping anyway though, because they love to ban things.

Posted by: Ian S. at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (ZGrMX)

425 Remember when "they" used to say po' folks were victims of society, and we should go easy on 'em? It ain't really their fault.

The corrollary to that then, is rich, educated, pillars of society ought to know better. They shouldn't catch a break, by that logic. Maybe, they should even be held to a higher standard. So which is it?? Stupid judges.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (ke5UQ)

426 You'd have better luck finding a virgin in a brothel.

That's why the downstairs couch wont move upstairs.

Posted by: DaveA at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (FhXTo)

427 425 Remember when "they" used to say po' folks were victims of society, and we should go easy on 'em? It ain't really their fault.

The corrollary to that then, is rich, educated, pillars of society ought to know better. They shouldn't catch a break, by that logic. Maybe, they should even be held to a higher standard. So which is it?? Stupid judges.
Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (ke5UQ)

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"He's of my class. My class isn't really that bad. Let him off."

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (iikV8)

428 372
Michael Bolton is dead?

Posted by: wth at September 10, 2019 12:39 PM (v0R5T)

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No. Just his career.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 12:52 PM (8XRCm)

It was fine until that no talent ass clown started winning grammies- Michael Bolton (IT)

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (5l6gb)

429 There is NO reason that you need Political Thralls to fill the seats.
There is not a job in DC that couldn't be done, better, by a hire from
the Private Sector.

Rex Tillerson was an honorary member of the DS. He thought his opinion on foreign policy superseded Trump's. This is why he needed to go, and Trump, to his credit, deepsixed him.

Posted by: pep at September 10, 2019 12:58 PM (T6t7i)

430
I applaud Trump for recognizing when a personnel hiring mistake was made and for moving to rectify it expeditiously.

He ought to apply that same practice to the members of whatever team he uses to make hiring recommendations.

Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at September 10, 2019 12:59 PM (pNxlR)

431 Well, maybe these are DIY vaping liquids and capsules.

Which often contain illegal drugs.

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This is honestly what I think. My sis, his mom, has found strange papers and plastic pieces paraphernalia around, which led to him saying he was vaping. But I've since read that some of that juice stuff can be gotten from...let's just say unsavory sources and heaven knows what it really contains.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 12:59 PM (JoUsr)

432 > I wrote a book too!!
> - every politician

Except that people actually bought Trump's book voluntarily. It wasn't just a money-laundering scheme to transfer money to the pockets of a politician.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 12:59 PM (cB5if)

433 383 but in the process he gives himself 2nd degree burns on his face and neck.

So he's smart too.
______________

Yep, that's what seems to have really set him off. He had burned himself pretty badly when he set the pile of tree limbs on fire. It was his own damn fault, of course, but you know he probably blamed Paul for the burns.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2019 12:59 PM (k4dH2)

434 I primarily blame Sessions for Mueller (and partially Trump for naively making Sessions his AG; I wanted Ted Cruz, who would eventually go to SCOTUS) -- but yeah, there's lots of blame to go around.

Posted by: ShainS -- Cancel #ErasureCulture at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (WqPYg)

435 "This one is. And when you pull your usual bullshit gotcha games of fighting among yourselves, to see who gets to the President's ear, for your own glory and aggrandizement, this President doesn't look too favorably on that nonsense."

There is a history of people in various agencies and departments setting policy that is opposed to the president's. This may be part and parcel of it (and a lot of the deep state nonsense also).

I don't see Trump seeing his role is to mediate between different groups who are setting policy; rather he sees it as he decides policy.

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (hLRSq)

436 >>I want MORE political novices in DC. The experienced have proved themselves incompetent. And worse, corrupt and evil.

Considering how many DC swampies keep reappearing from one administration to the next, from one federal post to the next (lookin' at you, Jamie Gorelick), I'd prefer that more were fired unceremoniously.

If only it were that they would not land on their feet. Bolton will. He'll end up at a think tank or public policy center, lobbying firm, whatever. All these connected swampies stay in the game, regardless of party.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (bDqIh)

437 413 Deep State

Yes.

That was easy.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (Cssks)

438 Expect to see more of this. The Left learned along time ago the one branch they can really corrupt quickly is the judiciary. They are also spending tens of millions buying state AG positions and placing their lackeys in those offices.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (VpIIl)

439 I honestly do not give a shit. I hired Trump to do a job. I don't care about his hiring and firing policies or what subcontractors he brings on.

I care about the end product. So far he's one of the best hires I've ever made.
Posted by: JackStraw at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM (ZLI7S)

Amen Yup
Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (p0A33)

People get attached to the players. Like a rooting interest in a sports team.

You traded our 35 year old third baseman for a 22 year old phenom? HOW COULD YOU??? He helped us win. 10 years ago.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (cY3LT)

440 There is NO reason that you need Political Thralls to fill the seats. There is not a job in DC that couldn't be done, better, by a hire from the Private Sector.
Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (0Uei+

Pompeo is better that Tillerson,

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (2DOZq)

441 Kill the waaaaaabit
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 12:54 PM

Kill da wabbit?

Posted by: Buggs at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (ejd/p)

442
Thump- you know that Hillary sound ...

Posted by: Yo! at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (1XAal)

443 All of the much-hyped "vaping deaths" thus far have been kids trying to put pot into e-cigs and vape it rather than people vaping as intended. Democrats have seized on it to start banning vaping anyway though, because they love to ban things.
Posted by: Ian S

That, and there's no sin tax on vaping like there is on smokes.

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (WavOX)

444 WE'RE FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM OVER HERE!

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Well looking around any big city in the US it appears that failed.

Posted by: 18-1 at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (3cfl2)

445 @LegInsurrection 21 seconds ago

Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (cF8AT)

446 He could have gotten ten years; this judge sentenced him to merely 30 days. After all, he wasn't deplorable -- he had a "good background" and "education."

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Hey black parents and grandparents, remember in the '80s when you demanded equal and minimum sentencing laws because racism and so that white kids wouldn't get a slap on the wrist when they did the same things black kids did?

Isn't it funny how there's a record number of black men* in prison because of minimum sentences, but white folks are still given slaps on the wrist because of "education" or other leftist fetishes?

Congratulations on your victory.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (dSvao)

447 Democrats have seized on it to start banning vaping anyway though, because they love to ban things.

Blue states also get a ton of money from the tobacco settlement.

Vaping threatens to undercut that.

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 10, 2019 01:02 PM (I2/tG)

448 Bolton might have been brought on as a "cabinet of rivals" thing. Sometimes that doesn't work out the way we think it will.

Posted by: Caliban at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (QE8X6)

449
* More Black Men Are in Prison Today Than Enslaved in 1850

https://tinyurl.com/ycf6poto

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (dSvao)

450 > The Left learned along time ago the one branch they can really corrupt quickly is the judiciary.

I don't know about "quickly", but it is definitely the gift that keeps on giving. Administrations are gone in 8 years at the most, but their judges are there for life.

Trump's greatest legacy is likely to be his judicial appointments (and kudos to McConnell for keeping the confirmation train rolling).

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (cB5if)

451 Actually it was a stupid amatuerish thing to do and may have ultimately lead to mueller

I rate this as untrue. Mueller was selected by the same people that put the plan in place the day after Trump won. Comey set it up and got what he wanted.

Posted by: DanMan at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (XTiHL)

452 413 Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (FiUMj)
******
Do you get off on being Laughably dumb ??
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (BqBId)

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Do you have any new insights on what Sean Hannity told you? Indictments coming any day now eh?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (FiUMj)

453 Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:01 P

Oh, the huge manatee....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (ejd/p)

454 Bring the troops home. No foreign overseas adventures to countries that nobody can find on a map much less articulate a "compelling national interest". Congress must declare war, something they haven't done since 1941.

Also, 4 Year Rule. It applied in the Civil War, World War I, World War II, and Korea*, if it can't get done in 4 years, forget it. Bring back the Draft, too.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (ke5UQ)

455 LegInsurrection 21 seconds ago

Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
Posted by: Tami

Bwahahahahahahaha

Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (WavOX)

456 445 @LegInsurrection 21 seconds ago

Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (cF8AT)

BWAHAHAHA

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (RD7QR)

457 Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case

WOOT!

Posted by: The ARC of History! at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (I2/tG)

458 > Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case

Sweet!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (cB5if)

459 Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (cF8AT)

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Heh.

Pay up suckahs.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 01:04 PM (8XRCm)

460 This gourmet salted bull's milk is pungent, but delicious!

Posted by: Don Lemon's Thoughtful Face at September 10, 2019 01:04 PM (0D+GD)

461 All of the much-hyped "vaping deaths" thus far have been kids trying to put pot into e-cigs and vape it rather than people vaping as intended. Democrats have seized on it to start banning vaping anyway though, because they love to ban things.
Posted by: Ian S

That, and there's no sin tax on vaping like there is on smokes.
Posted by: rickb223 at September 10, 2019 01:01 PM (WavOX)

People with just switch back to traditional cigarettes---which is probably what is intended.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 01:04 PM (NFEMn)

462 449
* More Black Men Are in Prison Today Than Enslaved in 1850

https://tinyurl.com/ycf6poto
Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (dSvao)

Also, there's more black men.

Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 01:04 PM (RD7QR)

463 Seems they had a point. FEMA was going full Clinton and just looting the aid, and Trump didn't notice until too late.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 12:28 PM (ykYG2)

You don't think the mayor and governor were getting their beaks wet?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2019 01:04 PM (jEgzt)

464 The bureaucrats really came down hard on vaping when the big players like Altria started getting in on it.

Also "wine moms" hate vaping because its trashy, so Democrats will totally feed that constituency.

Never mind it's gotten like every friend of mine that has smoked off of really cigarettes. It looks "WalMart" so it needs to be banned.

Vaping is about as harmful as drinking coffee. Nicotine by itself is like caffeine.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (sjTfF)

465 Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:01 P

Oh, the huge manatee....

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Somewhere, raimondo and Raimondo are crying.

Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (JoUsr)

466 personnel mistakes...so what?

Trump's mistakes were signing bad budget deals that made making his border wall nearly impossible.
Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (thQkh)

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How do you think the deep state became what it is? Personnel. That's who runs things. Making the right appointments is as important (if not more so) than actual legislation signed.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (FiUMj)

467 Vaping bad. Smoking weed good. Makes zero sense, but leftards are concerned with truths, not facts.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (Ol/Jg)

468 446 Robbie

"He could have gotten 10 years."

Doesn't happen that way in real life. A 10-year sentence would've been reversed for the same reason as the 30-day sentence.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (Cssks)

469 "233 223 I didn't like Bolton, but I'm sick of Trump making terrible hiring decisions and having a revolving door.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 12:34 PM (sjTfF)

This doesn't bother me anymore. Good people stay (Ross, Mnuchin, Pompeo) and the ones who can't cut it get jettisoned. That's the way it goes. And it's hard finding good people -- anywhere.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 12:35 PM (H8QX

"

Yeah, same here.
Keep firing 'em until you get people who are good staffers, i.e. smart, capable of implementing toe boss' agenda, no axes of their own to grind.
Finding actual patriots who want to put America and American citizens first has gotta be hard, particularly in DC, where the rot has been ongoing for decades.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (pkvuH)

470 "This one is. And when you pull your usual bullshit gotcha games of fighting among yourselves, to see who gets to the President's ear, for your own glory and aggrandizement, this President doesn't look too favorably on that nonsense."
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There is a history of people in various agencies and departments setting policy that is opposed to the president's. This may be part and parcel of it (and a lot of the deep state nonsense also).

I don't see Trump seeing his role is to mediate between different groups who are setting policy; rather he sees it as he decides policy.
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (hLRSq)

The story goes that Eisenhower brought this kind of leadership from the military to the White House. He had an intricate network of loyal workers, who were allowed to operate somewhat independently. As LONG as they remained loyal to the mission and respected the chain of command.

Still, there were snakes in Eisenhower's Administration, and they did much damage.

Since then, especially Republican White Houses have adhered to this type of structure. One of the drawbacks of course, is that often the President has no way of knowing who is doing what, in his Administration.

So... here we are.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (cY3LT)

471 Also "wine moms" hate vaping because its trashy, so Democrats will totally feed that constituency.

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Well it is trashy AF. The wine moms aren't wrong.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (FiUMj)

472 Romney loves John Bolton. That's enough for me. Fire his ass.

Posted by: Huck Follywood, a low grade social fever at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (LISuA)

473 >>WE'RE FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM OVER HERE!

Oh really?

Then how is it we now have Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib in Congress, Bernie and Castro just attended the (unindicted co-conspirator) ISNACON 2019 Presidential Forum, and the Terror Watch List was just ruled unconstitutional???

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (bDqIh)

474 I'm looking forward to Gibson's luxurious new campus.

Learn To Bake, Oberliners!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (ykYG2)

475 Sky News@SkyNews
An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned.

At 6.40 am we will be speaking Charlotte Barcas, a Aquarist at the London Aquarium who looks after the penguin #Sunrise

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)

476 >> Vaping bad

Guarantee these kids are vaping turpentine or some shit.

They huff Propane and Eat Tide Pods fer chrissake.

I am not imagining they are getting hurt from a Blue or Juul eCig.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (0Uei+)

477 I could be mistaken, but I sometimes get the feeling that a lot of people are chomping at the bit for a chance to deliver some old-fashioned vigilante violence.
Posted by: Hikaru at September 10, 2019 12:30 PM (eiebj)

Playing your one-note ocarina again?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2019 01:07 PM (jEgzt)

478 @NBCNews 4 minutes ago

Charlie Kupperman will be acting national security adviser following the firing of John Bolton, White House says - @PeterAlexander

Who?

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:07 PM (cF8AT)

479 So Longfellow it is, then.
Posted by: Jane D'oh

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lol.

Hey, Jane D'oh, totally off-topic, but Ilhan Omar has gotten herself a new look. She changed her Twitter profile pic from this haughty sneer -- literally looking down her nose at the viewer -- to a new one where she's coyly smiling up at the camera from an angle as if she's cuddled under your arm, and she's gotten eyelash extensions and softened her whole look. Something's up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 12:37 PM (13CQC)

Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:08 PM (lonOK)

480 > Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
> Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:01 P

"the Court finds that the amount awarded is not manifestly excessive nor does it appear to be influenced by passion or prejudice"

Hahahaha!

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 01:08 PM (cB5if)

481 Pompeo is better that Tillerson,

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (2DOZq)

That's an understatement.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 01:08 PM (hSSpd)

482 ALIENSTOCK 2019!!!

WHOOHOOOOOOOO!

Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at September 10, 2019 01:09 PM (d7Ww2)

483 >>Who?

That right there is his 1st endorsement.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2019 01:09 PM (0Uei+)

484 Vaping bad. Smoking weed good. Makes zero sense, but leftards are concerned with truths, not facts.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (Ol/Jg)

Corporatists have learned how to make money with legal weed. They haven't quite figured out how to get these pesky vapors in line.

Simple as that.

Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 01:09 PM (cY3LT)

485 468 446 Robbie

"He could have gotten 10 years."

Doesn't happen that way in real life. A 10-year sentence would've been reversed for the same reason as the 30-day sentence.

Posted by: mnw at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (Cssks)

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You'll have to take that quote up with Ace.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:09 PM (dSvao)

486 I wish I had gotten one of those Soros judges. Sigh.

Posted by: Zombie Ted Bundy at September 10, 2019 01:09 PM (vtcmf)

487 Bolton is hard core. He has hawkish beliefs and he doesn't back down on them. That's good when you need a bulldog. Not so great if you'tr trying to negotiate. I like Bolton and he has done a lot of good things. But if you're not a team player, it's time to move on.

The one thing you should worry about is who is influencing the president from the other perspective. If it's someone like Pompeo- I'm fine. If it's one of the anti-war family members- i'm not.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (VpIIl)

488 Oberlin is now eligible for the BOFA program in litigation insurance

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (ykYG2)

489 >>has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.

Whaaat?

WHere was the ceremony to be?

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (bDqIh)

490 What's better than firing bad people?

Not hiring bad people to begin with.

Bolton was like the biggest cheerleader of McCain style foreign policy. Every poster here knew he was the ultimate NeoCon. He was the biggest booster of another multi trillion dollar war with Iran. He was NOTHING like Trump's vision of foreign policy.

I like that Bolton' was willing to slam the UN, but so do figures like Bill Kristol.

Whoever has Trump's ear on these hiring decisions really needs to be fired also.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (sjTfF)

491 I could be mistaken, but I sometimes get the feeling that a lot of people are chomping at the bit for a chance to deliver some old-fashioned vigilante violence.

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It's funny how having six or seven different sets of laws makes people start wondering what the law means to them.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (dSvao)

492 > Vaping bad. Smoking weed good. Makes zero sense, but leftards are concerned with truths, not facts.

Spanking children: bad. Stabbing them in the skull with a pair of scissors and vacuuming out their brains: good.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (cB5if)

493 This felon is going to have a great background after he meets his new cellmate "Bubba". I foresee a happy marriage.

Posted by: Comanche Voter at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (WRSbt)

494 More Black Men Are in Prison Today Than Enslaved in 1850

https://tinyurl.com/ycf6poto
Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (dSvao)

Also, there's more black men.
Posted by: joncelli, who's totally not in the pay of Big Alien at September 10, 2019 01:04 PM (RD7QR)

There are also more black men who vote, own property and have attended college than were enslaved in 1850, but that is not the "desired" headline....

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (NFEMn)

495 Also "wine moms" hate vaping because its trashy, so Democrats will totally feed that constituency.

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Well it is trashy AF. The wine moms aren't wrong.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (FiUMj)

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So is shooting heroin.

But some cities take their tobacco money and buy clean needles and provide safe houses to shoot up in.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (8XRCm)

496
BREAKING: Rand Paul says he agrees with decision to fire Bolton.

Posted by: Serious Cat at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (Xqo6t)

497 398 The comparable 30 day sentence under this law was an egg thrown at a Congressman decades ago.
________________

Yeah, the entire defense argument for giving Boucher a 30-day sentence was stupid, and the trial judge should have rejected it out of hand.

This was a federal law case, not a state law case, and the fact that KY state law typically gives 30-day sentences for assaults resulting in minor injuries was completely irrelevant. The injuries Boucher inflicted on Paul were NOT minor by any stretch of the imagination, so the argument that Boucher should only get 30 days was just silly. A competent judge would have ignored it.

Plus the judge completely ignored the federal guidelines and the federal case law that says that factors like a defendant's education, profession, social status, etc., are not factors that should be used to reduce a sentence. She just did what she wanted to do, and to hell with what the law requires. Like all lefties, she thinks that she is the law.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (k4dH2)

498 ...There's a corollary to that: The laws you claim your tribe-members can ignore and have immunity from, are laws that I can also ignore, and which I also have immunity from.

Good luck with that, Ace.

I think you would find that the full weight of the law applies in your particular case.

Posted by: Gridlock at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (z/vX9)

499 Most wine moms are blowing the gardener and hitting the pool guy. I wouldn't tale their word on anything.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (VpIIl)

500 Something must be done!!!

Posted by: Wine Moms at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (vtcmf)

501 473 >>WE'RE FIGHTING THEM OVER THERE SO WE DON'T HAVE TO FIGHT THEM OVER HERE!

Oh really?

++++

right, instead, we're bringing them here to vote and giving them affirmative action benefits and making them off limits because it's a hate crime to notice they hate us.

Posted by: mushroom maniac at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (thQkh)

502 Oberlin College denied new trial in Gibson's Bakery case
Posted by: Tami

Yes!!

Suck on it, you super-educated scumbags.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (H8QX8)

503 Mr. Kupperman is the senior facilities engineer at the Security headquarters. "Janitor" just doesn't have the right ring to it anymore.

He'll do a fine job.

One of the great tragedies of our time, seriously, is this notion that only career bureacrats and Harvard educated elite are fit to run anything. They've done incalcuble damage. Which is probably rather the point.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (ke5UQ)

504
Good on Trump firing Bolton.

Too many of these guys think they're appearing in the Limey comedy, "Yes Prime Minister",

where underlings work their wiles to undermine and frustrate the PM's policies.

If they won't work with you, give them the axe.

Good people are tough to find. Especially. in the DC Swamp.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2019 01:12 PM (SHtRW)

505 This is Trump's style. An offering them a Camp David meet was the ultimate hospitality and they countered by murdering 12 people.

Now all the rest of the Muslim world cannot deny what they are. Trump has more leverage with them than ever.
Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 12:56 PM (hSSpd)

You know, getting some kind of a peace deal with the Taliban , with the Afghan govt. s blessing prior to yet another 9/11 date was a noble idea.
It's been 18 years and we are still losing people to IEDs, etc. in Afghanistan. You can't always provide Hollywood movie optics, if communications with the Taliban indicated they were ready to talk now, you go with it. Camp David is secure and also is to Trump's advantage. Like a warlord wants a meeting in his tent to tip the strong side to him, a meeting at Camp David tips it to Trump.

Having a meeting on an aircraft carrier, let's not make the Taliban out to be any more important in the scheme of things than the piss ant murderous thugs they are.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 01:12 PM (t0g7x)

506 496
BREAKING: Rand Paul says he agrees with decision to fire Bolton.
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (Xqo6t)

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Least surprising news ever.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 01:12 PM (iikV8)

507 How do you think the deep state became what it is? Personnel. That's who runs things. Making the right appointments is as important (if not more so) than actual legislation signed.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (FiUMj)

Basically our lives are controlled not by the lazy worthless bastards we elect, but by the lobbyists that specify the legal language in the laws the legislatures "write", the tenured judges that the politicians appoint, and the unaccountable HR departments that control the staffing of the infinity of government bureaucracies!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 10, 2019 01:12 PM (BiNEL)

508 Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (VpIIl)

Well Bolton says he offered to resign the night before and Trump told him they would talk about it the next day. Next thing you know Trump is tweeting he fired Bolton.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (2DOZq)

509 Ashna Nateef Tribble - FEMA

Donald Keith Ellison - Cobra Energy

Jovanda Patterson - Formerly FEMA, currently Cobra Energy
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 12:36 PM (cF8AT)

The trouble with Tribbles.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (jEgzt)

510 "Yep. ...but.

There is NO reason that you need Political Thralls to fill the seats. There is not a job in DC that couldn't be done, better, by a hire from the Private Sector.

Posted by: garrett at September 10, 2019 12:57 PM (0Uei+) "

This, Jesus, Mary, Joseph, this a hundred thousand times.

"Political professionals" are the cause of most of the problems in DC, the fewer of them PDT has around, the better.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (pkvuH)

511 487 Bolton is hard core. He has hawkish beliefs and he doesn't back down on them. That's good when you need a bulldog. Not so great if you'tr trying to negotiate. I like Bolton and he has done a lot of good things. But if you're not a team player, it's time to move on.

The one thing you should worry about is who is influencing the president from the other perspective. If it's someone like Pompeo- I'm fine. If it's one of the anti-war family members- i'm not.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (VpIIl)

Not so bad for trying to negotiate I think. Bolton is the bad cop, makes you think the US is going to bust your skull. Time for a new angle to be played though.

Posted by: Someguy at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (Wj9tV)

512 499
Shit! Im in the wrong business.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (Ol/Jg)

513 Well it is trashy AF. The wine moms aren't wrong.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker

__________

Wine moms also think ammo and MAGA hats are trashy.

Good thing some of us don't let wine moms decide public policy based on their Instagram feed.

Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (sjTfF)

514 I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.
Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:08 PM (lonOK)

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You know what else causes anti muslim feelings????

Muslims covering for muslims that crash jet airliners into buildings.... thats what.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (8XRCm)

515 What's worse than firing people?

Not firing them.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (hSSpd)

516 @Tom_Winter

NEW: Judge Sullivan schedules a December 18th sentencing date for Ret. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

His attorney, Sydney Powell, told the judge she does not anticipate withdrawing Flynn's guilty plea @KenDilanianNBC reports.

WHAT!? Someone explain this to me....

Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (cF8AT)

517 Having a meeting on an aircraft carrier, let's not make the Taliban out to be any more important in the scheme of things than the piss ant murderous thugs they are.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 01:12 PM (t0g7x)

Having a meeting with the Taliban at Guantanamo works for me!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 10, 2019 01:14 PM (BiNEL)

518 >>>More Black Men Are in Prison Today Than Enslaved in 1850<<<

More Black Men Are in Professional Sports Today Than Enslaved in 1850.

Get the Commissioner on the Line!

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2019 01:14 PM (kLDv+)

519 The Rand Paul that was so vocally against Trump's tariffs on Mexico?

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:14 PM (dSvao)

520 NEW: Judge Sullivan schedules a December 18th sentencing date for Ret. Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn.

His attorney, Sydney Powell, told the judge she does not anticipate withdrawing Flynn's guilty plea @KenDilanianNBC reports.

WHAT!? Someone explain this to me....
Posted by: Tami at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (cF8AT)

Christmas pardon?

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 01:14 PM (NFEMn)

521 Bolton was like the biggest cheerleader of McCain style foreign policy.
Every poster here knew he was the ultimate NeoCon. He was the biggest
booster of another multi trillion dollar war with Iran. He was NOTHING
like Trump's vision of foreign policy.
=====

I disagree. Establishment hated Bolton and he was willing to speak against arms dealers like McCain and establishment spooks.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (MIKMs)

522 tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.

Whaaat?

WHere was the ceremony to be?
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (bDqIh)

They announced it on the radio. A Baptist church in Bloomfield Hills was having a ceremony, but Rashid , a rep from Detroit-not Bloomfield-was offended as it might lead to anti Muslim feelings so they cancelled. She's everywhere on local news.

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (lonOK)

523 Basically our lives are controlled not by the lazy worthless bastards we elect, but by the lobbyists that specify the legal language in the laws the legislatures "write", the tenured judges that the politicians appoint, and the unaccountable HR departments that control the staffing of the infinity of government bureaucracies!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 10, 2019 01:12 PM (BiNEL)

K Street and interns, that's who's running the country.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (hSSpd)

524 > The comparable 30 day sentence under this law was an egg thrown at a Congressman decades ago.

Right. Thirty days is within reason for throwing an egg at someone.

Not for putting someone in the hospital with a friggin' punctured lung.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (cB5if)

525
Bring back the Draft, too.
Posted by: Common Tater

No

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (aKsyK)

526 >>This is Trump's style. An offering them a Camp David meet was the ultimate hospitality and they countered by murdering 12 people.

Now all the rest of the Muslim world cannot deny what they are. Trump has more leverage with them than ever
- - - -
Except . . . aren't they supported by Qatar?
I don't fully understand that dynamic, but Obama sent those 5 Talina baddies to Qatar in exchange for Bergdahl, and IIRC, they all went back to leadership roles on the battlefield.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

527 >>This is Trump's style. An offering them a Camp David meet was the ultimate hospitality and they countered by murdering 12 people.

Now all the rest of the Muslim world cannot deny what they are. Trump has more leverage with them than ever
- - - -
Except . . . aren't they supported by Qatar?
I don't fully understand that dynamic, but Obama sent those 5 Talina baddies to Qatar in exchange for Bergdahl, and IIRC, they all went back to leadership roles on the battlefield.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

528 An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned.

At 6.40 am we will be speaking Charlotte Barcas, a Aquarist at the London Aquarium who looks after the penguin #Sunrise
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM

The penguins are psychotic.

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (ejd/p)

529 BREAKING: Rand Paul says he agrees with decision to fire Bolton.
Posted by: Serious Cat at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (Xqo6t)

Well now I will sleep tight tonight???
LOL

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (p0A33)

530 I'm decidedly not anti-intellectual. But it begs the question - what is an "intellectual" these days? Pat Moynihan is dead.

We've got a metric crapton of pseudo-intellectual idiots, fully credentialed, deployed against us at this point. True idiots, armed with degrees, and a fully formed "I Hate You Daddy!!" Weltanschaung.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (ke5UQ)

531 K Street, Que Street, and m'kay Street.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (dSvao)

532 I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.
Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:08 PM (lonOK)

----

If this is true, Trump has GOT to tweet this.
It will make people's blood boil.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (NFEMn)

533 526 >>This is Trump's style. An offering them a Camp David meet was the ultimate hospitality and they countered by murdering 12 people.

Now all the rest of the Muslim world cannot deny what they are. Trump has more leverage with them than ever
- - - -
Except . . . aren't they supported by Qatar?
I don't fully understand that dynamic, but Obama sent those 5 Talina baddies to Qatar in exchange for Bergdahl, and IIRC, they all went back to leadership roles on the battlefield.
Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

527 >>This is Trump's style. An offering them a Camp David meet was the ultimate hospitality and they countered by murdering 12 people.

Now all the rest of the Muslim world cannot deny what they are. Trump has more leverage with them than ever
- - - -
Except . . . aren't they supported by Qatar?
I don't fully understand that dynamic, but Obama sent those 5 Talina baddies to Qatar in exchange for Bergdahl, and IIRC, they all went back to leadership roles on the battlefield.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

==========

So good, it had to be said twice.

Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Winter Soldier at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (iikV8)

534 His attorney, Sydney Powell, told the judge she does not anticipate withdrawing Flynn's guilty plea @KenDilanianNBC reports.

..

The law is complex.

Posted by: Barr at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (MAstk)

535 OT/ already.. Bolton has been fired

Posted by: It's me donna at September 10, 2019 12:07 PM (O2RFr)

Always seemed like an odd choice.

Posted by: DocJ at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (77WPm)

536 Now Stranch should call Batani:

"I'm just calling to see how you're doing, because it's been such a long time since we had you over for dinner. What's it been? At least 14 months--maybe even more like 18 months. Yeah, I think it's been at least 18 months. In fact, I'm sure it's been about 18 months. What do you think?"

Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (hjaPQ)

537 Don't want to be a downer, but the Oberlin ruling actually isn't a surprise, and isn't the end of anything, necessarily. Oberlin had made a standard procedural move for the loser in a case like that, they had asked the Judge who presided over the case to overturn the jury verdict and give them a new trial. Judge Mirandi had been extremely cautious throughout the trial, and it was very unlikely that he would make a finding that he himself had made a mistake in how he managed it.

What was significant about this filing is that it was a clear guide as to what arguments Oberlin is going to make when they file an appeal of this decision at a higher level.

Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (Kpl3J)

538 Sky News@SkyNews
An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned.

At 6.40 am we will be speaking Charlotte Barcas, a Aquarist at the London Aquarium who looks after the penguin #Sunrise
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)

The dumb hurts.

Posted by: joe, living dangerously at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (KUaJL)

539 A Baptist church in Bloomfield Hills was having a ceremony, but Rashid ,
a rep from Detroit-not Bloomfield-was offended as it might lead to anti
Muslim feelings so they cancelled.

Bunch of gutless virtue signalers.

Posted by: Wine Moms at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (vtcmf)

540 Except . . . aren't they supported by Qatar?
I don't fully understand that dynamic, but Obama sent those 5 Talina baddies to Qatar in exchange for Bergdahl, and IIRC, they all went back to leadership roles on the battlefield.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (bDqIh)

Qatar is trying to play both sides of the fence and is tight with many of the most radical elements in the muslim world. They can NOT be trusted

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (p0A33)

541
Wasn't John Wayne Gacy a pillar of the community?

The judge in the Rand Paul assault case was too stupid to come up with a plausible fake reason for giving the lunatic assailant a slap on the wrist. The real reason is that she believes that Senator Paul had it coming. As we have it coming. They hate us and want us dead.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (MRGYC)

542 An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned.

--

Well flip the f*cker over and have a look. It's not rocket science.

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (dSvao)

543 474 I'm looking forward to Gibson's luxurious new campus.

Learn To Bake, Oberliners!

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (ykYG2)

Breaking News from the Outrage Outlet!

Gibson's Bakery has taken possession of Oberlin College, plans to lease it out as Hillsdale South. "We couldn't think of a better way of showing the college what we think of them other than to erase their name, memory, and deeds from history like old pharaoh what's-his-name. See what I mean?" On further questioning the spokesman said 'Why yes, liberal tears are sweet, we use them in out baked goods."

Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (hLRSq)

544 Whoever has Trump's ear on these hiring decisions really needs to be fired also.
Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (sjTfF)

__

mmm hmm

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (FiUMj)

545 528 The penguins are psychotic.
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (ejd/p)

But will still finish higher in the standings than the Philadelphia Flyers.

Posted by: Allie at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (sm6Pk)

546 "Political professionals" are the cause of most of the problems in DC, the fewer of them PDT has around, the better.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (pkvuH)

"Political professional" is a synonym for "unaccountable snake".

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (BiNEL)

547 525
Bring back the Draft, too.
Posted by: Common Tater

No
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (aKsyK)
----
Yes. (That was easy enough)

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (ke5UQ)

548 Hey, Jane D'oh, totally off-topic, but Ilhan Omar has gotten herself a new look. She changed her Twitter profile pic from this haughty sneer -- literally looking down her nose at the viewer -- to a new one where she's coyly smiling up at the camera from an angle as if she's cuddled under your arm, and she's gotten eyelash extensions and softened her whole look. Something's up.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia
______________

Maybe her adulterous love affair with her campaign-paid consultant (which she totally denies, BTW) has made her soften up. Sex with soy-boys can probably do that to a woman.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (k4dH2)

549 He was NOTHING
like Trump's vision of foreign policy.
=====
I disagree. Establishment hated Bolton and he was willing to speak against arms dealers like McCain and establishment spooks.

Posted by: mustbequantum at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (MIKMs
-----------------------

He simply did not know when to shut up.
There's a time to speak and time not to
and he never caught on to Trump's finesse.

Posted by: Frosty at September 10, 2019 01:18 PM (hSSpd)

550 So the trial court judge will only sentence me to 30 days for tackling her even breaking her ribs.

And I like the feature that the law violates EqualProtection by being only applicable to the elected.

Betcha a similar law protects judges.

But I'm not woke either so I guess that idea would be a bad idea.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2019 01:18 PM (BOrGu)

551 Once again, reverse the situation.

Imagine if an unhinged white conservative man (and not some patsy like the mail bomber we never heard from again after he and his ridiculous van were found) attacked a Democratic senator, better yet a black Democratic senator and a judge gave him a slap on the wrist on account that he was educated and religious, as they did with this guy (they took statements from his pastor). It would be textbook case number one in every "white privilege" college course.

Yet this is exactly what went on here because of the victim being considered subhuman.

Posted by: meedle at September 10, 2019 01:18 PM (gJAok)

552 541
Wasn't John Wayne Gacy a pillar of the community?

The judge in the Rand Paul assault case was too stupid to come up with a plausible fake reason for giving the lunatic assailant a slap on the wrist. The real reason is that she believes that Senator Paul had it coming. As we have it coming. They hate us and want us dead.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (MRGYC)

So was Dennis Rader, IIRC.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2019 01:19 PM (NWiLs)

553 Anti-muslim feelings, but still no "bake our cake" lawsuits because they know they'll cut their f*cking heads off.

(see what I did there?)

Posted by: Moron Robbie- Criminal acts are not loopholes at September 10, 2019 01:19 PM (dSvao)

554
Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.
Posted by: Chillin the most

=======

AYFKM??

Posted by: Blonde Morticia at September 10, 2019 01:19 PM (13CQC)

555 "the fact that KY state law typically gives 30-day sentences for assaults
resulting in minor injuries was completely irrelevant"

iirc, it was not just an assault ... it was a BFD because it was a political assault on an elected member of congress. Unless it is the mob beating up Harry Reid, that is a higher order of crime (and should be, usually, except it may soon enough become incumbent on the citizenry to rebel, if DeepState and their Mobsters are not removed from power)

Posted by: illiniwek at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (Cus5s)

556 Regarding Afghanistan -

I think if a Rep President has been conducting a war, and if it looks like a Dim will be coming into the next administration.

They should just bomb the fucking daylights out of every single thing they can, just wreck the place and leave.

Otherwise, you get an a-hole like Obama as CiC and changing the ROE so that it's easier to kill American soldiers for "Fairness" or some such shit.

Bomb the doo-dah outta them. And leave.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (SHtRW)

557 >>>Wasn't John Wayne Gacy a pillar of the community?<<<

If JWG were alive today, they cast him in a Hollywood film and give him standing ovations.

Posted by: Fritz at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (kLDv+)

558 Gibson's Bakery has taken possession of Oberlin College, plans to lease it out as Hillsdale South. "We couldn't think of a better way of showing the college what we think of them other than to erase their name, memory, and deeds from history like old pharaoh what's-his-name. See what I mean?" On further questioning the spokesman said 'Why yes, liberal tears are sweet, we use them in out baked goods."
Posted by: Mikey NTH -Support Your Sagging Self-Worth with Poses & Postures from The Outrage Outlet! at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (hLRSq)

If only. This is music to my schadenboner.

Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (NWiLs)

559 Light punishment because educated.

You know who passed law that prohibited education of blacks?

Democrats.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (BOrGu)

560 Meh, Trump looks weak the way he's negotiating with the Taliban. There, I said it. This isn't a fucking corporate meeting where you go grab steaks and beers afterwards. These people are murderous thugs that we've been fighting for a long time. They have been taking over more and more of the country while Trump is trash talking on Twitter. He looks feckless, and then he looks patronizing when he talks about the military.

I mean- what the fuck is he talking about that "he could kill millions if he wanted"? I was like- WTF?

The ROE's were changed. Great. Now fucking bring the hurt instead of taking it up the ass.

Posted by: Marcus White-T at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (VpIIl)

561 Yeah, same here.

Keep firing 'em until you get people who are good staffers, i.e.
smart, capable of implementing toe boss' agenda, no axes of their own to
grind.

Finding actual patriots who want to put America and American
citizens first has gotta be hard, particularly in DC, where the rot has
been ongoing for decades.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 01:05 PM (pkvuH)

Trump is slowly but surely draining The Swamp. Not at the rate and quantity many of us want, but he's getting it done.

Posted by: Gref at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (AMIL/)

562 The judge should be impeached and removed from the federal bench.

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (Dp5Kd)

563 Wine moms also think ammo and MAGA hats are trashy.

Good thing some of us don't let wine moms decide public policy based on their Instagram feed.
Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (sjTfF)

____

Did I say the should? No. I said vaping, in my opinion, is trashy. And on this aspect I agree with the wine moms. I also didn't say it should be banned.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (FiUMj)

564 What was significant about this filing is that it was a clear guide as to what arguments Oberlin is going to make when they file an appeal of this decision at a higher level.
Posted by: Tom Servo at September 10, 2019 01:16 PM (Kpl3J)

I saw your comment at LI. Thanks. What are your thoughts on the appeal?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (H8QX8)

565 525
Bring back the Draft, too.

Posted by: Common Tater

The best way to destroy the military is to fill it with people who don't want to be there. No thanks.

Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (CQ3Qb)

566 Too bad Paul wasnt cc. Could have avoided all this controversy.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (Ol/Jg)

567 I just saw that Cory Booker is hinting at marriage ahead of his Inauguration.

I'm dyin' here. This guy should stand up. Next he's going to claim they have to get married because he's knocked her up.

Give it up, Cory. Nobody's buying this.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

568 37 O/T
I just turned on my radio for Rush and the local news announced that a scheduled 9-11 service at a local Baptist church in Bloomfield hills has been cancelled due to a complaint by Rashid talib who called it anti Muslim! She is a rep in Detroit not Bloomfield!
Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 12:11 PM (lonOK)

So much for Terrorism having "Nothing to do with Islam", eh?

Posted by: Allie at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (sm6Pk)

569
I like that Bolton' was willing to slam the UN, but so do figures like Bill Kristol.

Whoever has Trump's ear on these hiring decisions really needs to be fired also.
Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:10 PM (sjTfF)

Bolton was named NSA by Trump seventeen months ago. April of 2018, while he was being drumbeat every single day that he was a Russian agent doing Putin's bidding , was going to jail for collusion, the entire DOJ was embroiled in a war on him, etc.
Flynn, who was his original pick, had be removed by the corrupt DOJ and FBI and was awaiting his fate( still is), and H.R. McMaster was removed when he disagreed publicly with both Jim Mattis and John Kelly and their feuds kept going.

by the way, Obama had four different NSA during his eight years, the longest lasting was Susan Rice, who was there for almost five years.

Posted by: Jen the original at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (t0g7x)

570 Bomb the doo-dah outta them. And leave.

Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (SHtRW)

So, the Libya strategy? I mean, that worked-out swimingly.

Posted by: DocJ at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (77WPm)

571 Nood

Posted by: clutch cargo at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (Z1ykJ)

572 Wine moms also think ammo and MAGA hats are trashy.

Good thing some of us don't let wine moms decide public policy based on their Instagram feed.
Posted by: Blago at September 10, 2019 01:13 PM (sjTfF

Wine mom's kids are often heroin addicts too.

Posted by: JoeF. at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (NFEMn)

573 567 I just saw that Cory Booker is hinting at marriage ahead of his Inauguration.

I'm dyin' here. This guy should stand up. Next he's going to claim they have to get married because he's knocked her up.

Give it up, Cory. Nobody's buying this.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2019 01:21 PM (YqDXo)

To who? Michael Sam?

Posted by: Allie at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (sm6Pk)

574
Yes. (That was easy enough)
Posted by: Common Tater

Bring back slavery. (That was easy too)

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (aKsyK)

575 Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.
Posted by: Chillin the most

The F-ck. smfh

Posted by: Guy Smiley at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (O8WFE)

576 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Kupperman

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (BqBId)

577 Sky News@SkyNews
An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned.

At 6.40 am we will be speaking Charlotte Barcas, a Aquarist at the London Aquarium who looks after the penguin #Sunrise
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at September 10, 2019 01:06 PM (+y/Ru)

The dumb hurts.
=======

What a fucked up world. Truly. How the fuck did this happen? I mean, this is probably one of the most fucked up things I've ever read.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 10, 2019 01:22 PM (vg8iE)

578 Bring back the Draft, too.
Posted by: Common Tater

No
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (aKsyK)
----
Yes. (That was easy enough)
Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:17 PM (ke5UQ)

Bringing back the draft is the worst idea ever. NO ONE I know in the Military wants anything to do with a draft.

Posted by: Nevergiveup at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (p0A33)

579 >>Qatar is trying to play both sides of the fence and is tight with many of the most radical elements in the muslim world. They can NOT be trusted

Completely agree.
Not claiming 4D chess here, but I would imagine any Taliban negotiations would have to factor in Qatar. Qatar, which has very comfortably infiltrated so many DC institutions and the media.

Wondering what message the Camp David stuff was intended for Qatar. Trump got the Taliban to admit their bad behavior amidst alleged peace negotiations and then publicly shamed them . . . interesting.

Posted by: Lizzy at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (bDqIh)

580 An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned.
_____________

Do these dumb asses not understand that the animal kingdom does not give a shit about their lefty delusions? The penguin's gender was assigned by nature, and the penguin knows it and will act accordingly, even if the stupid humans around it refuse to accept it.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (k4dH2)

581 I don't fear unemployment, unemployment fears me.

Posted by: John Bolton's Mustache at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (hjaPQ)

582 Bomb the doo-dah outta them.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM

And don't fiddle around. Do it expeditiously. The zippidy doo-dah.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (0S+wE)

583 So was Dennis Rader, IIRC.
Posted by: Insomniac at September 10, 2019 01:19 PM (NWiLs)

OT but he could have been a prime suspect earlier if they would have used cross checking software.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (2DOZq)

584 Bring back the Draft, too.

Posted by: Common Tater

Hard. Fucking. Pass.

Posted by: DocJ at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (77WPm)

585 "And I like the feature that the law violates EqualProtection by being only applicable to the elected"

seems to me the elected should have a special protection ... it is a threat to the republic, not just the individual. But I don't know the "jurisprudence" on that issue.

Posted by: illiniwek at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (Cus5s)

586 Re Bolton

I know quite a few around here really like him.
Same with Condi.

I don't trust either, at all.

Same 3 letter in their background as the Bushes, Clintons, Barky, too many others to list that have held high positions in our govt.

Those 3 letters stand for a group that has openly called for doing away with national sovereignty.

Posted by: tin foil looney loser at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (gJ3Vg)

587 "503 Mr. Kupperman is the senior facilities engineer at the Security headquarters. "Janitor" just doesn't have the right ring to it anymore.

He'll do a fine job.

One of the great tragedies of our time, seriously, is this notion that only career bureacrats and Harvard educated elite are fit to run anything. They've done incalcuble damage. Which is probably rather the point.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:11 PM (ke5UQ) "

Exactly. To both of your points.

Rather see pipefitters and tool-and-die makers stepping up the career ladder than slugs educated to be saboteurs.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (pkvuH)

588 Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.
======

Of course she did. Because they won on that day 18 years ago. No one has the balls to admit it.

Posted by: bicentennialguy at September 10, 2019 01:23 PM (vg8iE)

589 They announced it on the radio. A Baptist church in Bloomfield Hills was having a ceremony, but Rashid , a rep from Detroit-not Bloomfield-was offended as it might lead to anti Muslim feelings so they cancelled. She's everywhere on local news.
Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:15 PM (lonOK)

Assholes. We as a nation should have more anti-muslim feelings. We now have to lie in order spread this Disneyland "small world, everyone's the same " bullshit.

Posted by: CN at September 10, 2019 01:24 PM (U7k5w)

590 According to the latest Vox/CNN poll, 99% of vapers agree that no one needs to vape, and that it is reasonable for the government to compel them to turn in their high capacity vaping equipment.
You can't argue with the polls, people.

Posted by: Bartertown Benny at September 10, 2019 01:24 PM (0D+GD)

591 Trump is slowly but surely draining The Swamp. Not at the rate and quantity many of us want, but he's getting it done.
Posted by: Gref at September 10, 2019 01:20 PM (AMIL/)

A tough job, and not one that can be done overnight. It took decades to build The Swamp.

The best part: he's also draining The Swamp in the Federal judiciary, and installing young sensible people. The Reds are going to find the judicial route a much tougher row to hoe going forward.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2019 01:24 PM (YqDXo)

592 People get attached to the players. Like a rooting interest in a sports team.

You traded our 35 year old third baseman for a 22 year old phenom? HOW COULD YOU??? He helped us win. 10 years ago.
Posted by: BurtTC at September 10, 2019 01:00 PM (cY3LT)

you sound like all cards fans around me. where are you from ?

Posted by: chango butt at September 10, 2019 01:24 PM (B+t5k)

593
Do you have any new insights on what Sean Hannity told you? Indictments coming any day now eh?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at September 10, 2019 01:03 PM (FiUMj)
*******
I don't watch Hedgehog Hannity, he is more your speed, or lack of it

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at September 10, 2019 01:25 PM (BqBId)

594 Situations like this are why some people say that there is no justice in the justice system and that to get any justice, one must take the matters in to one's own hands.

One of you Morons noted that we started out with a Justice System, that morphed into a Legal System, that has ended up as a Judicial System.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at September 10, 2019 01:25 PM (yQpMk)

595 No think tank can contain me.

Posted by: John Bolton's Mustache at September 10, 2019 01:25 PM (hjaPQ)

596 Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.

So she's admitting it was Muslims who attacked us because of Islam.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at September 10, 2019 01:26 PM (YqDXo)

597
Hmmmm...... googling Talib return NO RESULTS about her getting a 911 Memorium canceled.

Posted by: fixerupper at September 10, 2019 01:26 PM (8XRCm)

598 "An adopted Gentoo chick raised by a same-sex penguin couple will become the world's first penguin to not have its gender assigned. "

I'm guessing that this is not from the Babylon Bee, right ?

*facepalm*

*sigh*

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at September 10, 2019 01:26 PM (pkvuH)

599 "588 Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings."

Cancelling a commemoration of an attack that killed 3000 Americans because it would hurt the feelings of the tribe that attacked us is how many steps away from internalizing the notion that we should not try to stop attacks against us because it would hurt the attackers' feelings?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at September 10, 2019 01:27 PM (H8QX8)

600 It's possible that Paul was blowing leaves onto nutter socialist's lawn and that enraged him.

I hate that crap too because every contract lawn guy does that. And they do it to me.

But I'm not woke enough to commit battery.

Posted by: torabora at September 10, 2019 01:27 PM (BOrGu)

601

Nood Warmonger

Posted by: Soothsayer at September 10, 2019 01:27 PM (kGJFi)

602 479
Rashid Talib has also upped her presence. She's everywhere on local news, and as I said earlier, has gotten a 9-11 ceremony cancelled tomorrow saying such ceremonies might cause anti Muslim feelings.
Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:08 PM (lonOK)

Since nobody told her to STFD and STFU, I guess the Muslims have won.

Posted by: rickl at September 10, 2019 01:27 PM (xjiRE)

603 W surrendered with that "religion of peace" crap. Conquest ideology. They'll do to Europeans what they did to Armenians, and the leftist assholes will still stand there with welcome signs.

Probably nothing we can do with Rashida, but we should expel Omar and her father

Posted by: CN at September 10, 2019 01:27 PM (U7k5w)

604 "NO ONE I know in the Military wants anything to do with a draft."

LOL!

They didn't want homosexuals or chicks with dicks either. What's your point? The military takes orders from lawful, duly appointed authority. It isn't a democracy.

Posted by: Common Tater at September 10, 2019 01:28 PM (ke5UQ)

605 Well, maybe these are DIY vaping liquids and capsules.

Which often contain illegal drugs.

Not a smoker at all, but I've never seen anyone respond to nicotine like that.
Posted by: naturalfake at September 10, 2019 12:55 PM (SHtRW)

Meth users are skinny wretches.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2019 01:30 PM (jEgzt)

606 Yep, that's what seems to have really set him off. He had burned himself pretty badly when he set the pile of tree limbs on fire. It was his own damn fault, of course, but you know he probably blamed Paul for the burns.
Posted by: TrivialPursuer at September 10, 2019 12:59 PM (k4dH2)

Fucker should have been charged with arson right then and there. I doubt very much that open burning of yard waste is legal in that community. Should be, but it got nannyed out of existence in most towns.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at September 10, 2019 01:35 PM (jEgzt)

607 I put the link in my mic about cancelling the 9-11 ceremony. The news is calling it an anti Muslim ceremony. Bloomfield Hills has a lot of Jewish people, and even though the ceremony was scheduled at a Baptist church, the community is not heavily Muslim-as areas in Detroit and Dearborn are.

Posted by: Chillin the most at September 10, 2019 01:37 PM (lonOK)

608 Boy, the judge's reasoning for the light sentence sure sounds like codewords for race and class discrimination, don't they? You'd think blindsiding and body-checking your next-door Senator and breaking six of his ribs would count for more than which college you went to.

Posted by: Socratease at September 10, 2019 05:54 PM (BT83d)

609 They had a neighborly dispute over lawn care. Paul should take his asskicking like a man, but he does get props for cutting his own lawn.

Posted by: DFCtomm at September 10, 2019 06:31 PM (50gG9)

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Federal Appeals Court Reverses Illegally-Light Sentence Lower Judge Gave to Rand Paul's Attacker;
Lower Judge Had Given Him an Impermissibly Short Sentence Because He Was "Educated"