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If there's a silver lining, at least we have official official confirmation that there is a two tiered justice system in this country.
Them and us. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:02 PM (k76MH) Posted by: makatta at August 29, 2019 12:02 PM (Y7Qzg) 3
Where are Comey's "memos" of his conversations with Obama? He met with Obama right before he met with Trump on January 6, 2017 but he typed up a memo only of his convo with Trump.
Why? ======== Because Straight Shooter. Because Lifelong Republican. Because Pine Scent was on sale that day and he forgot. Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (iikV8) Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (1ISKN) 5
1 If there's a silver lining, at least we have official official confirmation that there is a two tiered justice system in this country.
Them and us. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:02 PM (k76MH) It's always nice to have clean battle lines. Posted by: Someguy at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (y178e) 6
If Comey was ever going to be indicted he would have already been indicted as well as McCabe, Strozk, Page, the Ohrs.etc.
There is simply not enough time to do anything about this now. Barr is not the one who's going to be making prosecute/don't prosecute decisions, and is not going to step in to over rule subordinates discretion lest he seem political. And a Barr led DOJ is not going to be bringing highly charged indictments with political ramifications during an election year. This is over. The only thing that can be done at this point is for Trump and his allies to beat his Donk opponents over the head, win the election and pick up and pursue big time changes to the LE/IC/FISC so that this never can happen again. The coup was unsuccessful, the perpetrators have escaped justice, what's most important that changes are made so that a future Deep State cabal can never do this again. Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (4juur) 7
Horowitz is protecting these people, and there was never a doubt about it.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (U7k5w) 8
Nuke it all
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (SrwwP) 9
1 If there's a silver lining, at least we have official official confirmation that there is a two tiered justice system in this country.
Them and us. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:02 PM (k76MH) They are making a huge mistake in not prosecuting that lanky hunk of piss and not calling it over and done with. Not doing so confirms it's not over and done with, at least in our eyes. This is not good for a healthy society. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (zBaqJ) 10
7 Horowitz is protecting these people, and there was never a doubt about it.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (U7k5w) ========= Recommending an indictment is...protection? Posted by: TheJamesMadison, The Black Mamba at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (iikV8) 11
now that they know what they can get away with, expect even more of this crap to be used against Trump between now and election day.
and someone tell Mr Franklin that we tried and failed. Posted by: Mallfly The Georgia Peach at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (ZqRa6) 12
From 2018:
Former FBI agent Terry Albury was sentenced to four years in prison Thursday in the second leak prosecution of the Trump era, after federal prosecutors and a Minnesota judge rejected Albury's argument that more senior officials faced much lighter penalties for similar activities. .. Trump needs to commute his sentence and tie it to Comey. And all the others sitting in federal prison with similar charges. Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (MAstk) 13
1 If there's a silver lining, at least we have official official confirmation that there is a two tiered justice system in this country.
Them and us. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:02 PM (k76MH) We should look at arranging a national strike. This is exactly the sort of thing we broke from Britain over. The concept of "two-tiered" justice has a single-word name: Tyranny. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (J+mig) 14
I'm not worried.. The FISA stuff will take him down... I can just feel it... This time for sure... I'm serious... Okay... Did I sound convincing?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (O2RFr) 15
The bottom line is that, eventually, a two-tiered justice system where those in power see no punishment or at best mild slaps on the hand results in people taking the law into their own hands.
Eventually. Sometimes that can take generations, though. Right now the best thing we all can do is become nullifiers on juries. No convictions except for the worst crimes. No justice for them? No justice anywhere. No punishment for them? No punishment for people who do anything TO them. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (KZzsI) 16
A scathing inspector general report released Thursday said that fired FBI Director James Comey violated bureau policies by drafting, leaking and retaining memos documenting private discussions with President Trump.
Those aren't "policies". There are federal laws regarding mishandling classified document Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (bkkvA) 17
There is no silver lining. Next you'll find out that Comey was precious Q
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (U7k5w) 18
Bets on how soon DIY justice becomes the default in America?
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (AM1GF) 19
It's over and the good guys lost.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (ltuaO) Posted by: One More Zap Rowsdower at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (1Ja6u) 21
14 I'm not worried.. The FISA stuff will take him down... I can just feel it... This time for sure... I'm serious... Okay... Did I sound convincing?
Posted by: It's me donna at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (O2RFr) Some asshole somewhere just said "tick....tock..." Posted by: Roy at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (0yxK0) 22
They are making a huge mistake in not prosecuting that lanky hunk of piss and not calling it over and done with.
Not doing so confirms it's not over and done with, at least in our eyes. This is not good for a healthy society. Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (zBaqJ) I think it's a sign of their hubris. They know they can do anything and get away with anything. From their point of view, why prosecute to hide the truth and help others continue pretending? Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (k76MH) 23
"Trump can order the DOJ to prosecute.
For the good of the country." Which is, btw, hanging by a thread. Even Mattis recently said that the biggest threat to the USA is internal civil war. Thank you, General for stating the obvious. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (w7KSn) 24
so..not the jury box and not the ballot box. got it Uncle Sam.
Posted by: x at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (nFwvY) 25
16I If you call them policies, no laws are broken. Employment agreement was a particularly sinister touch
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (U7k5w) 26
I forget who the talking head was who said the DOJ might not indict, because they couldn't get a conviction in DC.
Posted by: Uncle Vud at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (fRgt5) 27
Comey "allegedly" sabotaged Hillary's Presidential run and set in motion the failed Russian collusion fiasco that has embarrassed the democrats and completely discredited their media messaging apparatus.
And they are still defending him? The left an Comey deserve each other. May they never be separate. Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (1ISKN) 28
Not doing so confirms it's not over and done with, at least in our eyes. This is not good for a healthy society.+++++ They. Couldn't. Care. Less. Posted by: Old Dude at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (LGXGf) Posted by: It's me donna at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (O2RFr) 30
I'm not worried.. The FISA stuff will take him down... I can just feel it... This time for sure... I'm serious... Okay... Did I sound convincing?
Posted by: It's me donna Yes ma'am you did. I'd buy a used car from you! Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (bkkvA) 31
24 so..not the jury box and not the ballot box. got it Uncle Sam.
Posted by: x at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (nFwvY) ammo box? Posted by: Roy at August 29, 2019 12:08 PM (0yxK0) 32
Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (MAstk)
I think they are also raising the race card in that case IIRC. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 29, 2019 12:08 PM (BoJzR) 33
Trump can order the DOJ to prosecute.
But he won't because Trump seems to think the DOJ is an independent body which he has no power over. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:08 PM (KZzsI) 34
You know weren't we always being told "Just you wait and see" by some people whenever we kept being pessimistic that nothing was actually ever going to happen to these traitorous shitheels? I seem to recall some kept going "Pay attention!" And yet here we are, with justice denied again.
Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2019 12:08 PM (Z7lwY) 35
33 Trump can order the DOJ to prosecute.
But he won't because Trump seems to think the DOJ is an independent body which he has no power over. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:08 PM (KZzsI) But, he thinks the Fed reports to him directly. Posted by: Roy at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (0yxK0) 36
I think they are also raising the race card in that case IIRC.
.. I'm sure they did. Trump could win bigly here. Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (MAstk) 37
12 From 2018:
Former FBI agent Terry Albury was sentenced to four years in prison Thursday in the second leak prosecution of the Trump era, after federal prosecutors and a Minnesota judge rejected Albury's argument that more senior officials faced much lighter penalties for similar activities. .. Trump needs to commute his sentence and tie it to Comey. And all the others sitting in federal prison with similar charges. Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (MAstk) Albury leaked internal FBI documents to try to help a Somali immigrant named Muhammed, because he felt sorry for the way dat Whitey be persecutin' him. Albury is black, of course. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (Kpl3J) Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (KZzsI) 39
Meet the new Barr, same as the old Sessions.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (P/pfC) 40
Not doing so confirms it's not over and done with, at least in our eyes. This is not good for a healthy society.
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 29, 2019 12:05 PM (zBaqJ) I think it's a sign of their hubris. They know they can do anything and get away with anything. From their point of view, why prosecute to hide the truth and help others continue pretending? Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (k76MH) This is an old story that has been told many times. It does not have a happy ending. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (J+mig) 41
Comey's out there demanding an apology and that fucking Barr just takes it?
You got to hand it to Comey. He really knows how to fuck you. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (Y274z) 42
38 ammo box?
Posted by: Roy Eventually, if things won't turn around. Hopefully not soon. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (KZzsI) hopefully never. Posted by: Roy at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (0yxK0) 43
The swamp is dark and full of error.
Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (DrqHq) 44
Even Mattis recently said that the biggest threat to the USA is internal civil war.
Thank you, General for stating the obvious. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (w7KSn) Not just stating the obvious but apparently trying to push it forward. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (BoJzR) 45
Sure, the box "says" soap on the side....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (A994L) 46
34: I'm waiting to hear some dumb shit analysis about how well get that Roadrunner next time.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (U7k5w) 47
Albury leaked internal FBI documents to try to help a Somali immigrant named Muhammed, because he felt sorry for the way dat Whitey be persecutin' him. Albury is black, of course.
.. Some of these cases would be a hard pill to swallow. But IMO it must be done. One system or no system at all. Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (MAstk) 48
So when do those in the second tier of the justice system start punishing those in the top tier? I guess that will literally be when the shooting starts....
Posted by: PAgirlinNC at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (/5WQL) 49
It is so reassuring to know that I live in a country of men and not laws.
Posted by: West at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (8+UNJ) 50
Albury leaked internal FBI documents to try to help a Somali immigrant named Muhammed, because he felt sorry for the way dat Whitey be persecutin' him.
Yeah I have no sympathy for someone who violated their job by leaking stuff to the press. But he makes a good argument: hey, look at what happened to Comey, why am I in prison? The problem is... he made that argument to a member of the ruling class, and they have no patience with a subcreature questioning the powers that be. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (KZzsI) 51
46 34: I'm waiting to hear some dumb shit analysis about how well get that Roadrunner next time.
Tick toc... No seriously tick toc.. I mean it Posted by: Hannity at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (O2RFr) 52
Trump is exponentially better than Hillary would have been. But it is crystal clear that who sits in the WH is almost irrelevant. The Deep State runs things and there's nothing we can do about it.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (P/pfC) 53
According to the report, McCabe, Rybicki, Priestap and Baker all said the memos were not personal, as Comey claimed, but records of official FBI business.
I almost want to watch CNN today to see what commentator McCabe has to say on this report. I guess the "senior leadership team" didn't think a "higher loyalty" meant omerta. Posted by: Wethal at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (3RspO) 54
Some of these cases would be a hard pill to swallow.
But IMO it must be done. One system or no system at all. Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:11 PM (MAstk) Amen to that. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:12 PM (J+mig) 55
I have no idea how one could think it's reasonable to prosecute Hillary Clinton. She didn't do anything I wouldn't do.
Posted by: James Comey at August 29, 2019 12:12 PM (zLLOw) 56
Amazing how many here can read Trumps mind.
Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 29, 2019 12:12 PM (W+RZ5) 57
That's what this is really all about, TPTB grinding our faces in it until our morale falls in the shitter.
And fuck me, it's starting to actually work. Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 29, 2019 12:12 PM (XNDy+) 58
And guys like Comey gloating, and the left cheering injustice because it was done by guys on their side... that only pushes us closer, closer to the day when things go horribly bloody. The same stupid crap was happening during the Civil War buildup. Both sides acting like colossal jerks toward each other, gloating, taunting, deliberately picking at that scab, until people just could not take it any longer.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (KZzsI) 59
Somali immigrant named Muhammed, because he felt sorry for the way dat Whitey be persecutin' him. Albury is black, of course.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:09 PM (Kpl3J) Speaking of that, another Somali immigrant stabbed a woman to death in D.C. for no apparent reason. ( he may be first generation) Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (BoJzR) 60
These people discus me to no end.
I would not be surprised they come up with a report that "Hillary Clinton hired a contract killer to eliminate Epstein, but we have decided not to prosecute." Nothing to see...move along. Oh, let us run every aspect of you lives, cuz we care. Posted by: Paladin at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (lhi1/) 61
I can't even.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (bDqIh) 62
"No reasonable prosecutor . . ."
Posted by: tsj017 at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (ZiGm9) 63
Something, something..."long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object'...
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (1ISKN) 64
By what standard did the coup fail if Trump is helpless to do anything? Even something as clear and obvious as this?
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (ltuaO) 65
35 33 Trump can order the DOJ to prosecute.
But he won't because Trump seems to think the DOJ is an independent body which he has no power over. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:08 PM (KZzsI) Where does anyone get the idea that Trump can "order" the DOJ to prosecute? The President can ASK the DOJ to prosecute. If the DOJ says no, then he can fire people there because they pissed him off. He can fire the entire department, if he wants, but he can't bring a prosecution himself. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (Kpl3J) Posted by: dananjcon at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (u6xw0) 67
Even Mattis recently said that the biggest threat to the USA is internal civil war.
Thank you, General for stating the obvious. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (w7KSn) His recent commentary should be a pretty good warning to anybody who thinks the military will be on our side in said civil war. Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (N4xQB) 68
63 Something, something..."long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object'...
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (1ISKN) I was just thinking that... Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (J+mig) 69
Even if Barr wants to use solid charges against people, that won't stop the FBI and DOJ to going back to unmasking and indicting any R who sneezes wrong (or right) once a Dem Pres is in again.
And if they come up short on Hillary, it may well be her with the shit candidates that are running now. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (kfcYC) 70
So members of the government are above the law now? But we normies are not?
I'll remember that in the jury room. I would suggest everyone else does as well. Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (3cfl2) 71
Those aren't "Bureau Policies";
Those were BLACK LETTER LAW MAJOR FELONIES. We have seen this shit for years now. Absolutely intolerable what these asshats get away with. Posted by: Common Tater at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (ur9nk) 72
Trump needs to commute his sentence and tie it to Comey. And all the others sitting in federal prison with similar charges.
Posted by: HA And all those in the military who were put in prison for a workplace photo or who left a document out on a table by accident. A classified document is a classified document. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (bkkvA) 73
The Deep State runs things and there's nothing we can do about it.
We've always known it was going to be an extremely difficult fight but the president of the United States needs to step up and start acting like an executive. I get that he has other priorities like the economy and trade, but this has to be dealt with, and not with memos and tweets about how he WISHES they'd do something. He's their boss. He can tell them what to do, LITERALLY. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (KZzsI) 74
The Deep State runs things and there's nothing we can do about it.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview No. Nothing we're WILLING to do. Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (AM1GF) 75
If you aren't prepping and have a very secure bugout location, you will be dead within 10 years. And if you haven't taught your children how to prep, you are a freakin' CHILD ABUSER. Not like Jeffrey Epstein, but CLOSE.
Posted by: Jonah Kyle at August 29, 2019 12:15 PM (SH7Tr) 76
His recent commentary should be a pretty good warning to anybody who thinks the military will be on our side in said civil war.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (N4xQB) With or against, let justice be done though the heavens fall. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:15 PM (J+mig) 77
Wow..we peons will get thrown in jail. assholes like Comey get some well paying gig instead.
Posted by: IC at August 29, 2019 12:15 PM (a0IVu) Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:15 PM (MAstk) Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (5LjYL) Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards, Relax, buy ammo and don't give one inch at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (bcbK8) 81
O/T: Latest Tim Pool video - someone tried to break in at 4:30am, then again while he's doing a video about it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVCQhUnMn-o Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (bDqIh) 82
Wiener status: Flaccid & Blue Pill Resistant
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (YA914) 83
I can confirm that I'll be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars" very soon. Then I'm going to Disney World! Ya' bitches.
Posted by: James Comey at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (hjaPQ) 84
"64 By what standard did the coup fail if Trump is helpless to do anything? Even something as clear and obvious as this?
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (ltuaO) " Exactly. Little stuff, here and there, winning. Big picture, we are losing 100 % of the time. Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (XNDy+) Posted by: HA at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (MAstk) 86
As far as an IG goes, their reports will always disappoint someone expecting them to say clear-cut that somebody intentionally did X to break the law. IGs are not prosecuting authorities and really can only refer to prosecutors when they believe a criminal violation has occurred. Since criminal conduct has not been proven until a trial is over and a verdict is reached, an IG will either refer matters to prosecutors and reach no conclusion as to criminal conduct or wait until after a trial is complete and then state what the criminal justice system determined.
This is baked into the audit standards that they have to follow. So, Horowitz may or may not be a great IG, but he is constrained in what he can report. They excerpts I've seen contain very harsh language for an IG report. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (+/C3g) 87
Comey is exonerated because he didn't leak directly to the press. He leaked to someone else, and told someone else to leak to the press. No problem.
Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (FG3bv) 88
Where can I get in on this immune-to-the-law club?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (CQ3Qb) 89
71: His SDNY buddy Horowitz says they were just parts of an employment agreement.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (U7k5w) 90
As many of us said over and over, the higher ups will never face punishment for their treasonous actions. Holding your breath on this will only make you blue in the face. The only question that remains is will we even get the once obligatory scapegoat? Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (r+sAi) 91
Where does anyone get the idea that Trump can "order" the DOJ to prosecute? The President can ASK the DOJ to prosecute. If the DOJ says no, then he can fire people there because they pissed him off. He can fire the entire department, if he wants, but he can't bring a prosecution himself.
Let me try to put this as simply as I can. He's the boss. He controls the executive department. He calls the shots. The Attorney General acts on his behalf, to do his bidding. If the AG can direct the DOJ to prosecute, so can the president, by ordering the AG. He's as much able to order action as the AG is. Now, obviously, people can simply refuse to do what they are legally told to do, but then they can be removed and replaced. They can do the same to the Attorney General, tell their boss "meh, F off, I'm not doing what I'm ordered." Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (KZzsI) 92
I'm thirsty.
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (rH7R9) 93
No. Nothing we're WILLING to do.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (AM1GF) Operative word left out: Yet. Eventually this manner of rulership will become egregious and onerous enough to offend all as much as it offends me, and then shit will get real. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (J+mig) 94
MUMR sighting! Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (AzW6q) 95
41 Comey's out there demanding an apology and that fucking Barr just takes it?
You got to hand it to Comey. He really knows how to fuck you. Posted by: torabora Barr has bigger plans for Comey and the rest. Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (kfcYC) 96
This was predicted long ago.
Why? Inspector Generals do not prosecute. They are like Blue Ribbon Panels appointed to look into something, ie, a way to punt the decision until public attention is elsewhere. I watched it happen in the military. Two Officers did some pretty hinky stuff, and instead of the command pressing charges, they kicked it to the IG. Who took so long to make a report that everyone had transferred by the time something could or would be done. Witnesses were gone. Folks had moved on. And the victims were no longer together and so were individual voices, with no support. Posted by: Don Q at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (NgKpN) 97
If something very bad happened to any federal deep state elite and I was on the jury of the accused, I would nullify the jury.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (pw+jk) 98
Exactly.
Little stuff, here and there, winning. Big picture, we are losing 100 % of the time. Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (XNDy+) I keep saying it's been one step forward two steps back for the last 100 years. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (BoJzR) 99
Where's AllenG? He had the perfect solution for this pile of dogshit.
Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (Fs5vw) 100
His recent commentary should be a pretty good warning to anybody who thinks the military will be on our side in said civil war.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter That's ok. While Ft Hood rolls out to Houston or Midland/Odessa, their wives and kids are still in Killeen/Copperas Cove. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (bkkvA) 101
At this point, I wonder if they're not prosecuting Comey, just as they did not prosecute Hillary, because they ALL do it.
Hell, they prosecuted Petreaus, and he was in a top position. Then again, that was partisan Obama. Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (bDqIh) Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (cY3LT) 103
Not doing so confirms it's not over and done with, at least in our eyes. This is not good for a healthy society.
They (the Deep State Swamp and all the creatures in it) don't care about any repercussions to society and they damned sure don't care what anybody who pays their lavish salaries thinks. Their lives are secure in every way you can think of. They are government apparatchiks whose every need is answered with tax dollars and Progda's filthy lucre. They aren't hurting for anything, nor will they ever want for anything. All that's important to them is their power over us. And they're proving they have it every day by rubbing our plebeian noses in their illegality while they get in their limousines to go to lunch as a fancy, expensive DC restaurant where they'll laugh at us for trusting them. Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (HaL55) 104
97 If something very bad happened to any federal deep state elite and I was on the jury of the accused, I would nullify the jury.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (pw+jk) Yup; hard not to feel that way. Posted by: IC at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (a0IVu) 105
95: Right. LOL
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (U7k5w) 106
I'll remember that in the jury room. I would suggest everyone else does as well.
Exactly. If you get jury duty, you know what to do. Everyone. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:18 PM (KZzsI) 107
The Justice Department's official watchdog concluded that the memos Comey kept were in fact "official FBI records," and said Comey set a "dangerous example" with his actions.
But not prosecuting him doesn't set a dangerous example? The lesson is: If you're the Deep State, you can do what you want. Posted by: abbynormal at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (I849g) 108
The Aristoc.rats ....
Posted by: Wontsumit at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (122Gu) 109
92 I'm thirsty.
Posted by: The Tree of Liberty at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (rH7R9) Damn, can't remember, was it here or over at Hot Gas where mentioning the Tree of Liberty became a banning offense. My how times change. Posted by: Don Q at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (NgKpN) 110
> As described in this report, we conclude that Comey's retention, handling, and dissemination of certain Memos violated Department and FBI policies, and his FBI Employment Agreement.
There's a sailor sitting in friggin' MILITARY PRISON because he took a couple of phone pictures on board his nuclear sub (which, yes, he should not have done), then later discarded the phone and someone found it and reported him. Once again, he should not have done that. No excuse for it. He fucked up, bad. But who could possibly look that sailor in the eye and tell him that he deserves to be doing hard time in the military jug while James Commie, Granny Cacklepants, and all the others, are walking free, living a life of ease? Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (cB5if) 111
44 Even Mattis recently said that the biggest threat to the USA is internal civil war.
Thank you, General for stating the obvious. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (w7KSn) Not just stating the obvious but apparently trying to push it forward. Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 29, 2019 12:10 PM (BoJzR) I realize now that Mattis is the kind of officer who might sympathize with us personally, but he'd go to war and try to kill us. Because to him The System is more important. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (Kpl3J) 112
We are officially a banana republik
Posted by: Fish at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (8X9tr) 113
Eventually this manner of rulership will become egregious and onerous enough to offend all as much as it offends me, and then shit will get real.
Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est When? Once it's too late? Ugh. It's Rev 6:10. I should know better. Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (AM1GF) 114
I am sure that General Flynn would really appreciate an apology.
Posted by: Picric at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (nonGu) 115
Now why would a racist guy with white privilege like me every get picked for a jury?
Posted by: sniffybigtoe at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (1ISKN) 116
Speaking if Romney why isn't he in the dem primary race yet?
He's as much of an elitist transnational technocrat as anyone on the left could want and he is actually a competent organizer unlike the rest of those chuckleheads. Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (3cfl2) 117
At this rate, from watching him awhile, I don't think Barr is a "deep state plant," or that he's "out for justice" either. I have been saying for some time that Comey, Clapper, Brennan, Lynch, Yates, et. al. will never be charged, without regard to people, facts, evidence, or anything else. Because they are people who: 1.) are utterly serving, and 2.) are highly unstable individuals, and 3.) can implicate the former President and Thundershart. Absolutely nothing will be done to endanger Obama and Hillary, because the political consequences are too severe. The government cannot and will not acknowledge that it's been corrupted from its nose to its toes, and by Our Historic First Black President and The Smartest Woman In The World, no less. I (think) Barr returned from the private sector for this thankless bullshit, because he wants to "fix" the DoJ he served for decades. I believe he wants to expose the coup, and perhaps indict one or two lower level people, in the hope that this will stop the bleeding of the DoJ in terms of public confidence, and "right the ship" with regard to future misbehavior of this kind. IOW, to put a stop to this, make the misdeeds public, and then make it all go away. And it wouldn't surprise me if this was also PDT's objective. I'm not saying this is right, or will be effective. But I think it's what is. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (AzW6q) 118
> Now, obviously, people can simply refuse to do what they are legally told to do, but then they can be removed and replaced.
Saturday Night Massacre their asses. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (cB5if) 119
This is discouraging, but not unexpected
Posted by: It's me donna at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (O2RFr) 120
So I guess when they spy on Republicans this next election, it's all okey-dokey.
Posted by: abbynormal at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (I849g) 121
I think the non-prosecution of Comey over the memos isn't news. We've known that for a while. What we're waiting for is the FISA consequences for Comey's lies. I know, #twoweeks. . .
Posted by: zeera Moron Author at August 29, 2019 12:21 PM (T9rmq) 122
So the DOJ is taking an expansive view of 'public service'. Somebody is going to take that to mean that they can take an expensive view of 'paying taxes'. N'ah, that won't happen.
Posted by: East Bay Jay at August 29, 2019 12:21 PM (Lg/Uq) 123
As a Christian, I know that one day, there will be justice, to a degree and absolute quality that it is terrifying to consider.
But this world matters, too, even though its a short trip. And for the sake of future generations, for our children and their children, we have to have justice here and now, too at least as much as is possible in a fallen world. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:21 PM (KZzsI) 124
The coup was unsuccessful, the perpetrators have escaped justice, what's
most important that changes are made so that a future Deep State cabal can never do this again. HOW? By making it a requirement that only eunuchs work for the Federal Government? Posted by: Paladin at August 29, 2019 12:21 PM (lhi1/) 125
Memo 2 is proof Comey lied to PDT about being under investigation. Why does Comey get to lie to President, but it would have been illegal for me to lie to him?
Posted by: Ever at August 29, 2019 12:21 PM (ZZDMQ) 126
Where does anyone get the idea that Trump can "order" the DOJ to prosecute? The President can ASK the DOJ to prosecute. If the DOJ says no, then he can fire people there because they pissed him off. He can fire the entire department, if he wants, but he can't bring a prosecution himself.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (Kpl3J) I thought we were against an AG referring to himself as the Preznit's "wingman". Posted by: Captain Hate at August 29, 2019 12:21 PM (y7DUB) 127
"I don't know how the DOJ plans to go to the public seeking convictions of non-Deep-State actors"
This is how you get out of jury duty now: "I don't see why anyone should be convicted of any non-capital crime when gov't employees and appointees are never prosecuted for the same crimes." You'll be home in time for lunch. Posted by: GWB at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (DUw3D) 128
Why I expected anything different?
Posted by: Guzalot at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (rH7R9) 129
Who took so long to make a report that everyone had transferred by the time something could or would be done. Witnesses were gone. Folks had moved on. And the victims were no longer together and so were individual voices, with no support.
Posted by: Don Q at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (NgKpN) Yea! The System Worked! people just have trouble understanding what the true goals of The System are. and always have been. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (Kpl3J) 130
Activate a fighter. Make the range two meters.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (19g6/) 131
116 Speaking if Romney why isn't he in the dem primary race yet?
He's as much of an elitist transnational technocrat as anyone on the left could want and he is actually a competent organizer unlike the rest of those chuckleheads. Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (3cfl2) Cause he's prepping for his 2024 "Return to a sane Republican" campaign bullshit. Posted by: buzzion at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (Z7lwY) 132
I've long feared that because this is the worst scandal in the country's history, that they won't prosecute because if all the details were ever given a fair and open hearing, they would never be able regain the trust of the public.
This is what's happening. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (NFEMn) 133
The coup was unsuccessful, the perpetrators have
escaped justice, what's most important that changes are made so that a future Deep State cabal can never do this again. Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (4juur) I fear you may be correct. I loathe that perps escape justice. Can't we publicly hang just one from a DC lamp post? A totem of sorts. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (5v5Zx) 134
very harsh language for an IG report.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (+/C3g) Wow. Harsh language. Ok. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (ltuaO) 135
Obama went after Petraeus because he thought he might run for president and win.
You'll note that he didnt have to do much plotting against McCain and Romney Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (3cfl2) 136
Where are Comey's "memos" of his conversations with Obama? He met with Obama right before he met with Trump on January 6, 2017 but he typed up a memo only of his convo with Trump.
Why? -- Julie Kelly Julie hits the nail on the head. The Magic Negro was involved in this crap up to his protruding ears, and that's also why the DoJ is not prosecuting Comey. It'd be impossible to prosecute Comey and not have Obama's involvement come out. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (k1TRb) 137
OT: NCAAP President fired from state job after refusing to speak with reporter explaining, "I don't talk to f***ing Jews." He then explained that he never said that and that the whole kerfuffle was a lie from a Jewish reporter and all part of a "COINTELPRO AND JEWISH MEDIA PROPAGANDA ASSASSINATION HIT TEAM". His entire statement is worthy of a read. Let's just say he a member of the Ratshit Taliban wing of the Democrat Party.
https://bit.ly/34jVHGi Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (+y/Ru) 138
I realize now that Mattis is the kind of officer who might sympathize with us personally, but he'd go to war and try to kill us. Because to him The System is more important.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (Kpl3J) This is spot-on. A fairly significant portion of the military consists of what I'd call Blue-Pill conservatives. They are right-leaning and very patriotic, but have no inclination or curiosity to question any official narratives or institutions. Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (N4xQB) Posted by: JT at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (arJlL) 140
So it's civil war, then? Fine.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (VWp7G) 141
This is baked into the audit standards that they
have to follow. So, Horowitz may or may not be a great IG, but he is constrained in what he can report. They excerpts I've seen contain very harsh language for an IG report. Posted by: Virginia SoCon at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (+/C3g) Oh, well at least he was subjected to some harsh language. Not much consolation in his 7-figure book deal and future media gigs. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (CQ3Qb) 142
Barr has bigger plans for Comey and the rest.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn Yes, that tickle pickle party is gonna be lit. Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (DrqHq) Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (pw+jk) 144
The coup was unsuccessful, the perpetrators have
escaped justice, what's most important that changes are made so that a future Deep State cabal can never do this again. Posted by: Radical Centrist I fear you may be correct. I loathe that perps escape justice. Can't we publicly hang just one from a DC lamp post? A totem of sorts. Posted by: Count de Monet I'm more afraid that changes HAVEN'T been made. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (bkkvA) 145
So, D.O.J. won't move to take Comey down?
Know what *would* take him down? Some noble former .mil sniper type, with a .338 Laupa. Disclaimer: I'm not former .mil sniper, and I do not own a .338 Laupa. Jim Sunk New Dawn Galveston, TX Posted by: Jim at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (QzJWU) 146
so..not the jury box and not the ballot box. got it Uncle Sam.
Posted by: x at August 29, 2019 12:07 PM (nFwvY) Well, those two boxes ARE handy for getting the miscreant an adequate drop under the lamp post. Posted by: GWB at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (DUw3D) 147
> Cause he's prepping for his 2024 "Return to a sane Republican" campaign bullshit.
Romney will never again be a major party nominee for President of the United States. I say "major party" because I don't think either of the major parties as we know them are going to last out the next decade. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (cB5if) 148
At this rate, from watching him awhile, I don't think Barr is a "deep state plant," or that he's "out for justice" either.
Yeah he's not deep state but he is an insider who believes in the system to the point that he thinks that it works and just needs fixing and protecting rather than a roots up burning. He thinks the DOJ is fine other than a few bad apples who need to be checked out. He's less a True Believer than Sessions was, but still not the right guy for the job. We need someone who kicks the door down and takes a flamethrower to the place, not someone who carefully goes through paperwork and makes angry faces. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (KZzsI) Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (mezN+) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (+y/Ru) 151
As many of us said over and over, the higher ups will never face punishment for their treasonous actions. Holding your breath on this will only make you blue in the face.
The only question that remains is will we even get the once obligatory scapegoat? Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (r+sAi) It helps if you see the Comey (and Mewler and Sandypants Berger and the like) as NOT the higher ups. They're the errand boys. The higher ups often aren't even the politicians who get elected. It's the same people as always. The money behind the power. Most of whom we don't even know. There are a few public figures who have enough hubris to announce their existence, but even they just serve as focal points. There are probably... what, about 1000 or so people who really control this country? They have influence and power over pretty much everything, and we will never touch them. Never. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (cY3LT) 152
Fire Barr and get someone honest in there.
Posted by: DanMan at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (XTiHL) 153
Wow.
Harsh language. Ok. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (ltuaO) Yeah, I know, weak sauce. However, they have authority to get into all records but no law enforcement authority. What do you want them to do? Posted by: Virginia SoCon at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (+/C3g) 154
This is what's happening. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (NFEMn) ------- Exactly. This a crime that the government can't acknowledge fully, because the public won't countenance it. The only question to me, is whether the whitewash will work, or if things have progressed too far to stem the damage. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (AzW6q) 155
114 I am sure that General Flynn would really appreciate an apology.
Posted by: Picric at August 29, 2019 12:19 PM (nonGu) I do think the entire case against Flynn is in slow-motion collapse. But it sure is taking a very long time to get to where it's going. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (Kpl3J) 156
This is spot-on. A fairly significant portion of the military consists of what I'd call Blue-Pill conservatives. They are right-leaning and very patriotic, but have no inclination or curiosity to question any official narratives or institutions.
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (N4xQB) Well, that's how a military works. They are not supposed to question. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (NFEMn) 157
133: What changes? The law has now been downgraded to employment policies? Yeah, that'll help. Especially when you'll make millions after being fired for doing the donks bidding. This is a dreadful outcome written by a manipulative snake.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (U7k5w) 158
He's as much of an elitist transnational technocrat as anyone on the left could want and he is actually a competent organizer unlike the rest of those chuckleheads.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2019 12:20 PM (3cfl2) The only way I rationalized voting for Mutt was because he was an effective executive in the bidness world and organizing the Olympics to be profitable. Posted by: Captain Hate at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (y7DUB) Posted by: weft cut-loop at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (DrqHq) 160
I can confirm that I'll be appearing on "Dancing with the Stars" very soon. Then I'm going to Disney World! Ya' bitches.
Posted by: James Comey at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (hjaPQ) Stay home. You are too damn big to fit on any of the rides. And you block out the stage / screen for those sitting behind you in the auditorium. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (5v5Zx) Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (XNDy+) 162
Exactly. This a crime that the government can't acknowledge fully, because the public won't countenance it.
The only question to me, is whether the whitewash will work, or if things have progressed too far to stem the damage. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (AzW6q) We can't handle the truth. And the truth is......we can't. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (NFEMn) 163
The FBI seems to be a sort of praetorian guard or Guardians of the Revolution outfit. They took down Nixon, are still trying to take down Trump. They were founded by the Democrats and still serve them, while claiming to be above politics. They have been in Washington forever and will outlast everyone. Woe to whoever is not on their good side.
Posted by: PG at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (iqCkn) 164
Barr has bigger plans for Comey and the rest.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 29, 2019 12:17 PM (kfcYC) Please stop. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (ltuaO) 165
If there's a silver lining, at least we have official official confirmation that there is a two tiered justice system in this country.
Them and us. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:02 PM (k76MH) They figure there's no point in hiding it anymore since nobody seems to care. Posted by: Surfperch at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (tVQUs) 166
If Comey isn't charged, then no one will be.
Serious question: What's the point of voting for a conservative - or at all - anymore? No one can drain the swamp, and even with a president like Trump, we're still a tinpot dictatorship, led by rogue elements in our DoJ. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (VWp7G) 167
Julie hits the nail on the head. The Magic Negro was involved in this crap up to his protruding ears, and that's also why the DoJ is not prosecuting Comey. It'd be impossible to prosecute Comey and not have Obama's involvement come out.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara Well, duh. We all know McCabe, Comey, Ohr, Strozk, didn't initiate a coup of a sitting president on their own. They don't have that kind of juice. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (bkkvA) 168
132 I've long feared that because this is the worst scandal in the country's history, that they won't prosecute because if all the details were ever given a fair and open hearing, they would never be able regain the trust of the public.
This is what's happening. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (NFEMn) And they're stupid and incompetent enough to think they can salvage some modicum of trust by trying to cover up the truth when we already know it. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:27 PM (J+mig) 169
The way thisnig going, Flynn gets the gallows. This is a stunning victory for Comey
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:27 PM (U7k5w) 170
We are officially a banana republik Posted by: Fish And yes.......we have no bananas. Posted by: JT Global warming will take care of that. Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 29, 2019 12:28 PM (aKsyK) 171
I realize now that Mattis is the kind of officer who might sympathize with us personally, but he'd go to war and try to kill us. Because to him The System is more important.
Yes. Every time people say the cops and military will be on our side it makes me sad inside. Very, very few will turn on their fellow soldiers or desert just to help us out. The rest will follow orders and protect their squad, their platoon, etc. In war, its not about the overall big goal or the politics, its about the guy next to you, and if Joe Citizen is shooting at you, you protect yourself and your buddy in the foxhole, no matter how right the citizen is. We cannot rely on there being huge defections and the military helping us out. Maybe eventually there would be a trickle, but not right away, and not enough. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:28 PM (KZzsI) Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:28 PM (eDmrZ) 173
We are officially a banana republik
Posted by: Fish And yes.......we have no bananas. Posted by: JT at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (arJlL) I've got a lovely pair of coconuts. Posted by: Old Man on Benny Hill at August 29, 2019 12:28 PM (5v5Zx) 174
This is what's happening.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (NFEMn) ------- Exactly. This a crime that the government can't acknowledge fully, because the public won't countenance it. The only question to me, is whether the whitewash will work, or if things have progressed too far to stem the damage. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (AzW6q) I would almost compare it to a family secret, the details of which are so sordid, that the truth must never come out. Sure, the rumors and conjectures are out there, an details and evidence may leak, but the truth must never be confirmed lest the family implode. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (NFEMn) 175
168: They don't need your trust. They are formally above tje law.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (U7k5w) 176
> 3.) can implicate the former President and Thundershart.
> Absolutely nothing will be done to endanger Obama and Hillary If I had solid dirt on either one of those people, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops, making depositions with every lawyer I could find, Tweeting it out, you name it. Because, post-Epstein, it's become clear (if it wasn't before) that having such information and keeping it private is a death sentence. Comey's been looking a little depressed lately, don't you think? Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (cB5if) 177
It may be that the DoJ won't prosecute because the violation of regulations is not a violation of criminal law.
Posted by: Brent Glines at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (Dzzh5) 178
I do think the entire case against Flynn is in slow-motion collapse. But it sure is taking a very long time to get to where it's going.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (Kpl3J) I thought getting Sidney Powell to represent him would speed things up but this case is as intractable as Jarndyce vs Jarndyce. Posted by: Captain Hate at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (y7DUB) 179
Where's JackStraw? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (7OILk) 180
very harsh language for an IG report.
=== Soon to be followed by a sternly worded letter of condemnation. Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (pw+jk) 181
> Yes. Every time people say the cops and military will be on our side it makes me sad inside. Very, very few will turn on their fellow soldiers or desert just to help us out.
The only real model or precedent we have for this is 1861-1865. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (cB5if) 182
179: Trying to spin this failure of justice.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (U7k5w) 183
>>I do think the entire case against Flynn is in slow-motion collapse. But it sure is taking a very long time to get to where it's going.
And costing him millions. As has happened to a lot of Mueller's targets --- by design. The process is the punishment. Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (bDqIh) Posted by: Christopher Cross at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (mezN+) 185
I wonder what would be best for stirring up outrage against the Deep State - a Comey prosecution or a Comey pass?
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (hLRSq) 186
I like Trump and all, but how is he not decimating the IG and the DoJ right now? He's just going to sit there while these traitors get away with destroying his presidency?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (VWp7G) 187
We have altered the deal; pray we don't alter it any further.
Posted by: The Deep State at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (1+J19) 188
"Even Mattis recently said that the biggest threat to the USA is internal civil war. Thank you, General for stating the obvious."Posted by: navybrat
Civil War is not the threat, it is the hope. The long time greatest threat has been the globalist overthrow of America and its institutions. That is now evident at the FBI "top men" level, where they run an illegal investigation (coup) on their own faked/deployed narrative of Trump/Russia. Mattis thinks the greatest threat (to the DeepState) is that the people won't roll over and accept their overthrow. They speak as if DC owns us, and we are deplorable for not surrendering even more than we have. (we made the oligarchs mega-rich, made China strong, made the country deeply indebted and opioids filled the void where middle America's hope was lost. Fluck Mattis for seeing the people as the threat, instead of the DeepState sedition/treason. DC Centric religion has consumed most of them. They are ready to go to war against half the country (against the patriots, they support anitfa and BigMoney). Posted by: illiniwek at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (Cus5s) 189
The DOJ owes the nation a detailed explanation as to why they declined to prosecute Comey. This defacto two-tiered justice system is BS and needs to stop lest things get out of hand. Go Trump MAGA!
Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (wezwm) 190
I've long feared that because this is the worst scandal in the country's history, that they won't prosecute because if all the details were ever given a fair and open hearing, they would never be able regain the trust of the public.
This is what's happening. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:22 PM (NFEMn) Yes, but what I think we're seeing happen before our eyes is a general distrust for every facet of our political system. People don't believe any of it is fair. I think a very safe prediction to make is that the 2020 election, no matter how it turns out, will be viewed as illegitimate. Fraud will be the norm, and it doesn't even have to be any worse than it's always been. The people will view it as such, finally, and more and more people will feel they've been cheated. So all authority will be suspect. The trust is already gone. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (cY3LT) 191
>>The only real model or precedent we have for this is 1861-1865.
They weren't a Union Cabal back then. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 12:31 PM (mezN+) Posted by: Sharkman at August 29, 2019 12:31 PM (6qa8a) 193
Like Bear Bryant said, "I ain't nothin' but a winner." So queer me, you homos.
Posted by: James Comey at August 29, 2019 12:31 PM (hjaPQ) 194
I've got a lovely pair of coconuts.
Posted by: ...at least if Publius' craft project has been completed. Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 29, 2019 12:31 PM (YA914) 195
What do you want them to do?
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (+/C3g) It really doesn't matter anymore does it? Some government bureaucrat send a mean letter to somebody. They aren't going to do anything and if that is because they are in on it, or weak, or helpless is pretty much irrelevant. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:31 PM (ltuaO) 196
BREAKING: FIBBIE HAM AND EGGERS STAGE MASS PROTEST, HAND IN BADGES
Posted by: kallisto at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (wZxsP) 197
This is spot-on. A fairly significant portion of the military consists of what I'd call Blue-Pill conservatives. They are right-leaning and very patriotic, but have no inclination or curiosity to question any official narratives or institutions. Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (N4xQB) ___ That goes for a lot of people here too. Example is Crenshaw who is defended because he's a military guy. Yeah so is Mueller. Means fuck all anymore. Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (P/pfC) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (+y/Ru) 199
There is no opposition to the institutional left in this country. There are only those who fantasize about such an opposition existing, until that is, it comes time to stand with that opposition. Then, well, people have too much to lose.
Posted by: Quilp at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (Bf3hj) 200
Where are Comey's "memos" of his conversations with Obama? He met with Obama right before he met with Trump on January 6, 2017 but he typed up a memo only of his convo with Trump.
Why? -- Julie Kelly Julie hits the nail on the head. The Magic Negro was involved in this crap up to his protruding ears, and that's also why the DoJ is not prosecuting Comey. It'd be impossible to prosecute Comey and not have Obama's involvement come out. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (k1TRb) See my comments above. Barky's involvement is PRECISELY the very reason we'll never get the complete truth. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (NFEMn) 201
Its so obvious that there is a double standard in justice. Them and us. I wonder when the us part of the equation of them and us will get so pissed off that the them part is held to account. I have no idea when it will happen. One hopes it will. I know I DO. I get sick of this shit. Sigh, one day......
Posted by: USNtakim at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (0OmEj) 202
I can't get over the hubris, even at those levels there has to be an understanding that once the line is crossed it's on. Unless that's really what they want... because they believe they will make it through. Sadly, they might.
Posted by: Inogame at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (1TU21) 203
So all authority will be suspect. The trust is already gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (cY3LT) Prosecuting all of the culprits regains trust. Sweeping it all under the rug is what wipes out trust. Posted by: WOPR at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (WVeiZ) 204
what if not prosecuting him is part of an agreement to testify against other higher ups as soon as others can be brought into the same fold and theyre not announcing that so that comey and others dont get epsteined
Posted by: sound awake at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (wYb2i) Posted by: Estelle Costanza at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (mezN+) 206
186 I like Trump and all, but how is he not decimating the IG and the DoJ right now? He's just going to sit there while these traitors get away with destroying his presidency?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (VWp7G) __ He knew the game was rigged all along. And he also knows, no matter how much he tweets about it, it's impossible to change. Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (P/pfC) 207
I forget who the talking head was who said the DOJ might not indict, because they couldn't get a conviction in DC. Posted by: Uncle Vud ====== In that case, no one's going down for anything anywhere ever except perhaps hurting a transperson's feelings. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (7OILk) 208
186 I like Trump and all, but how is he not decimating the IG and the DoJ right now? He's just going to sit there while these traitors get away with destroying his presidency?
--- There's a report today that the administration is opening an Office of Transparency to oversee the non-release of information. Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (hjaPQ) 209
Absolutely nothing will be done to endanger Obama and Hillary
If I had solid dirt on either one of those people, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops, making depositions with every lawyer I could find, Tweeting it out, you name it. from Ft. Marcy Park? Posted by: t-bird at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (VP1E6) 210
> Absolutely nothing will be done to endanger Obama and Hillary
----------------------------------------------------------------------- I do believe they will throw Hillary over if they must, but NEVER Obama. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (NFEMn) 211
So let's run through if the DOJ does prosecute here..
Comey declares his innocence...until he realizes he is seeing real time in prison. He changes his argument to "I was just following orders" and suddenly he gets epsteined in a federal prison. Then the DOJ has to explain how yet another high profile prisoner just happened to kill himself right before spilling the beans... Posted by: 18-1 at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (3cfl2) 212
>>>No justice for them? No justice anywhere. No punishment for them? No punishment for people who do anything TO them.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:06 PM (KZzsI) No Justice No Peace Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:34 PM (lfmil) 213
>>He knew the game was rigged all along. And he also knows, no matter how much he tweets about it, it's impossible to change.
Yep. If there's one thing about Trump he never tweets when he is angry with an outcome. Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2019 12:35 PM (ZLI7S) 214
Serious question: What's the point of voting for a conservative - or at all - anymore? No one can drain the swamp, and even with a president like Trump, we're still a tinpot dictatorship, led by rogue elements in our DoJ.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:26 PM (VWp7G) There is no point. If even someone like Trump can't do anything then some Republican functionary certainly won't. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:35 PM (ltuaO) 215
Damn! I'd a thought just the opposite.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (+y/Ru) It's because the wife usually sends you to an early grave before you can catch dementia. The log term survivors are mentally up to the task of surviving longer. Posted by: WOPR at August 29, 2019 12:35 PM (WVeiZ) 216
How will the DoJ keep prosecuting regular folks for things that the Top Men keep getting away with?
They'll just keep prosecuting people and no one will do one fucking thing about it. Our Founders would have been shooting people in the face a long time ago. Posted by: Sharkman at August 29, 2019 12:35 PM (6qa8a) 217
I do hold out hope that SOMEDAY, SOMEWAY Trump, who knows the truth, will seek out and get his REVENGE.
One way or the other. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (NFEMn) 218
>> I can't get over the hubris, even at those levels there has to be an understanding that once the line is crossed it's on. Unless that's really what they want... because they believe they will make it through. Sadly, they might.
Our police commissioner gave every member of the department take a day of sexual harassment training. It was primarily, "All men are pigs, but the commissioner demands this!" Last week, the commissioner resigned after a sexual harassment scandal. DoJ is no different. The top tier is rarely excoriated, but the agents usually don't have that protection. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (VWp7G) 219
If the FBI guys had any integrity or honor, they'd stage a very public event like a walkout and a rally at the Lincoln statue or something. Just everyone there who thinks this is BS get up at the same time at work, walk out and hold your rally. Make your displeasure and anger known. Let the pressure be put to bear on the leadership.
Give people some tiny glimmer of hope that there are SOME people working there who care more about truth and justice than comeraderie and Deep State plots. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (KZzsI) 220
Prosecuting all of the culprits regains trust. Sweeping it all under the rug is what wipes out trust.
Posted by: WOPR at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (WVeiZ) Yep. We can trust an institution that airs its dirty laundry and prosecutes those who have abused the public trust. We can never again trust one that thinks it has to hide things from us "for our own good". Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (J+mig) 221
No. Nothing we're WILLING to do.
Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:14 PM (AM1GF) THIS. Exactly. Posted by: GWB at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (DUw3D) 222
what if not prosecuting him is part of an agreement to testify against other higher ups as soon as others can be brought into the same fold and theyre not announcing that so that comey and others dont get epsteined
This is Stockholm syndrome. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (ppBhU) 223
"I don't know how the DOJ plans to go to the public seeking convictions of non-Deep-State actors, telling juries that these are serious crimes and stuff, while meanwhile deeming them not so serious whenever one of their own breaks the law."
Here's a nasty, not-so-secret tidbit: federal judges, US attorneys, and federal public defenders are some of the laziest, most shiftless and loathsome pieces of shit among the flotsam found in Leviathan. While settlements always are encouraged, hence the number of plea bargains, trials are routinely off the table in the federal system in comparison with the states because all of the actors are layabouts. So they are somewhat insulated from jury repercussions because trials are an endangered species. Go straight after the federal judiciary and the DOJ/FBI politically. Tear it into a million little pieces and then tear it some more. Discourage your family from joining the military. Do anything you can to throw sand into the system. Because if anyone thinks this Soviet-style shithole can be reformed from within...look at what it took to end the USSR. In a way, I'm glad this happened. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (iw59Q) 224
>>>Yep. If there's one thing about Trump he never tweets when he is angry with an outcome.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 29, 2019 12:35 PM (ZLI7S) Keeps his powder dry. Doesn't go off half cocked. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (lfmil) 225
Well, this should REALLY hamper their prosecution of anyone else for withholding information or handling sensitive information.
I mean my first day of trial I'd be pointing out it's a malicious prosecution since the FBI wouldn't prosecute Comey. Maybe I can get jury nullification if ever the govt goes after me for ANYTHING. Posted by: SturmToddler at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (8D42x) 226
I'm not worried.. The FISA stuff will take him down... I can just feel it... This time for sure... I'm serious... Okay... Did I sound convincing? Posted by: It's me donna ======= Set your calendar. #TwoWeeks, baby! Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (7OILk) 227
186 I like Trump and all, but how is he not decimating the IG and the DoJ right now? He's just going to sit there while these traitors get away with destroying his presidency?
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (VWp7G) He is not reticent at all. He is a scrapper. If he is holding fire then he has a reason that *he* thinks is sufficient to do so. Beyond that I cannot say what his reasoning may be. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (hLRSq) 228
>> If the FBI guys had any integrity or honor
You can stop right there. They have none. Company Men. All. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (mezN+) 229
The fellow who was put in prison for taking photos in that nuclear sub was commuted by Trump. Note that he initially deployed the Hillary defense, to no avail to our nation's nobles.
Even when exonerating Hillary from prosecution, it was interesting that Comey said that this same decision would not be repeated in other and like circumstances. He knows he is dirty and without honor. That is why he projects and protests so much. Posted by: DC at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (RZIhl) 230
>>>There's a report today that the administration is opening an Office of Transparency to oversee the non-release of information.
Heh. I've heard for weeks and weeks about the president declassifying reports on the attempted coup. Some may have been released, but if so, I haven't seen them yet, Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (VWp7G) 231
143 US third world status:
[_] NOT ACHIEVED YET [X] ACHIEVED 12 YEARS AGO Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 29, 2019 12:24 PM (pw+jk) Nope. I said it on the day after Election Day in Nov., 2012 that the USA as we've known it was gone. We are now seeing the new order. And frankly, I don't think anyone is actually going to fight it. I've seen no real evidence of it. The country has been transformed. Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (Fs5vw) 232
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:25 PM (AzW6q)
I would almost compare it to a family secret, the details of which are so sordid, that the truth must never come out. Sure, the rumors and conjectures are out there, an details and evidence may leak, but the truth must never be confirmed lest the family implode. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:29 PM (NFEMn) The thing about family secrets, and I've professionally encountered this many times over, is that nobody actually doesn't believe it. Everybody "knows" what happened, and all this energy is applied to making the surface appear as normal as possible. The victims and perpetrators co-exist, and form a sick, twisted alliance, where the conspiracy is to look in each others' eyes and pretend it didn't happen. Not to each other, and not to the outsiders. But nobody trusts anybody, and when crises occur, no cooperation can happen, so it breaks down eventually, and when it does the whole thing collapses. Like, say for example, China invades your Thanksgiving dinner. China will role over you like... like a bull in a china shop. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (cY3LT) 233
I'm mad also, but I guess the sticking point was the info was not classified? So is that technically against the law to share that sort of info?
Sure its a fireable offense, and Comey is a lying piece of shit, but that's not the same as illegal. I guess I wouldn't be too hard on Barr or Trump about not prosecuting if that's the case. Posted by: Blago at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (zuvmW) 234
I'm sure Jack has already read this thing. Given how bad it makes Comey look, not even CNN can spin it. The only one who has... is Comey himself.
The general legal consensus is that the report is excellent cover for firing Comey, as if the President had to justify himself. Nonetheless. I'm not invested: the public damage to rule of law continues, which is great for some people. Posted by: trev006 at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (HOhHO) 235
If I had solid dirt on either one of those people, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops, making depositions with every lawyer I could find, Tweeting it out, you name it.
The problem is that nobody in power wants to hear it. Twitter would ban you for racism. Facebook would ban you for attacking someone. The newspapers would refuse to hear your story. Its like Weinstein. Everyone knew what he was doing, but nobody wanted to hear about it or take action, to the point that even the POLICE were rejecting complaints. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (KZzsI) 236
I do believe they will throw Hillary over if they must, but NEVER Obama. Posted by: JoeF. ====== Have you seen Hillary lately? She's playfully tweeting again and strolling around the Hamptons in casual clothes. She knows she's untouchable. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (7OILk) 237
> The fellow who was put in prison for taking photos in that nuclear sub was commuted by Trump.
Thanks, I hadn't heard that. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (cB5if) 238
Heh. I've heard for weeks and weeks about the
president declassifying reports on the attempted coup. Some may have been released, but if so, I haven't seen them yet, Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (VWp7G) Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify everything months ago. Nada. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (CQ3Qb) 239
I do hold out hope that SOMEDAY, SOMEWAY Trump, who knows the truth, will seek out and get his REVENGE.
One way or the other. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:36 PM (NFEMn) I'm gonna getcha, getcha, getcha. Posted by: Blondie at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (5v5Zx) 240
In two years we will find out that the deep state started a new coup attempt on August 29, 2019. Many memos will be found of their collusion and treachery. Many shoulders will shrug. Many new book deals and cable news contracts will occur. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (r+sAi) 241
OT, DJIA +350 - death and recession are imminent.
Posted by: IC at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (a0IVu) 242
>>Have you seen Hillary lately? She's playfully tweeting again and strolling around the Hamptons in casual clothes.
Epstein is dead. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (mezN+) 243
204 what if not prosecuting him is part of an agreement to testify against other higher ups as soon as others can be brought into the same fold and theyre not announcing that so that comey and others dont get epsteined
Posted by: sound awake at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (wYb2i) If they walk out it will be to celebrate the fact that violation of law is now merely a violation of "the employment agreement", sort of like routine dress code violations, or falling asleep on the job. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (U7k5w) 244
> She's playfully tweeting again and strolling around the Hamptons in casual clothes.
By "casual clothes" you mean "dressed as a Dalek from Dr. Who", right? :-) Better to hide her robotic exoskeleton, I guess. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (cB5if) 245
200 Where are Comey's "memos" of his conversations with Obama? He met with Obama right before he met with Trump on January 6, 2017 but he typed up a memo only of his convo with Trump.
Why? -- Julie Kelly Again - this is stuff we have known and questioned for years. When this whole Comey memo thing came up he aid he ALWAYS made contemporaneous notes/diary entries about his important discussions. Okay, the immediate next question should have been okay, show me a memo you made of a conversation with someone else. Duh. He only wrote memos about Trump because he wanted to create evidence against Trump. See, I even wrote that I thought he was Hitler contemporaneously! Posted by: blaster at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (9VeU0) Posted by: North Korea at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (MAstk) 247
The left freaks out over Trump but they really don't have to. With or without him, they still control everything. All that anger is really not needed on their part. It's like getting mad that you team is down at the half, while also knowing the referees are all on your side and the final score is guaranteed to be in your team's favor.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (P/pfC) 248
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I'm sure Jack has already read this thing. Given how bad it makes Comey look, not even CNN can spin it. The only one who has... is Comey himself. The general legal consensus is that the report is excellent cover for firing Comey, as if the President had to justify himself. Nonetheless. I'm not invested: the public damage to rule of law continues, which is great for some people. Posted by: trev006 at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (HOhHO) A scathing report from the Trump administration followed by no prosecution will soon be seen as a badge of honor to Leftists. "Harsh words" will only embolden them. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (CQ3Qb) 249
Is there anyone actually in charge at the DOJ? I mean like someone who determines whether his employees are performing the job they were hired to do? From what we've seen the DOJ is full of rogue agents who pursue their own agendas without fear of retribution.
This has to be the longest #twoweeks in history. Posted by: creeper at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (mUeTE) 250
Barky's involvement is PRECISELY the very reason we'll never get the complete truth. Posted by: JoeF. at August 29, 2019 12:32 PM (NFEMn) Well, it is likely the reason why they were never going to prosecute Hillary over her e-mails. Obama - and every other high-level person in DC who received an e-mail from Hillary or sent her one, thus proving they knew what she was doing. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (hLRSq) 251
By "casual clothes" you mean "dressed as a Dalek from Dr. Who", right? :-)
Better to hide her robotic exoskeleton, I guess. Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (cB5if) Tents are "casual clothes"? Who knew.. Posted by: IC at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (a0IVu) 252
If I had solid dirt on either one of those people, I'd be shouting it from the rooftops, making depositions with every lawyer I could find, Tweeting it out, you name it. Because, post-Epstein, it's become clear (if it wasn't before) that having such information and keeping it private is a death sentence. Comey's been looking a little depressed lately, don't you think? Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia ====== Solid dirt is already a matter of public record. What's lying around in news reports regarding Hillary's secret email and Obama's knowledge of it is enough to get them both into court. What's the result? Just set your countdown calendar to #TwoWeeks every day for until the end of time. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (7OILk) 253
>>>If the FBI guys had any integrity or honor, they'd stage a very public event like a walkout and a rally at the Lincoln statue or something. Just everyone there who thinks this is BS get up at the same time at work, walk out and hold your rally. Make your displeasure and anger known. Let the pressure be put to bear on the leadership.
Never happen. After the Philly shootings two weeks ago, the DA let the shooter walk out unharmed. Six cops shot, and the very next day, officers were coming into my division with drug and absconder arrests. Cops, especially the younger ones, don't care the city treats them like a number. Agents probably don't either. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (VWp7G) Posted by: Inspector Krogh at August 29, 2019 12:41 PM (v0R5T) 255
You can stop right there. They have none.
Yeah, that much is clear. If they had any honor or integrity, any love of justice and the rule of law, they would have acted long before this. Its us vs them like a lot of cops get. The blue wall, protect your own. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:41 PM (KZzsI) 256
Every single federal criminal defendant should be entitled to a nullification jury instruction. The judge should have to tell the jury they have the right to nullify.
Over to you, useless, spineless Republicans in Congress... Posted by: Furious George at August 29, 2019 12:41 PM (9vQJW) 257
There is prescient for ordering a nations military to fight its citizens, and it doesn't always work out the way it's been assumed. I can't remember the eastern block country but the military flat refused to fight the citizens. End of the day the military is made up of the people and there needs to be huge steps in before orders to go to war at home are followed. Which I remembered more details, just wanted to mention.
Posted by: Inogame at August 29, 2019 12:41 PM (1TU21) 258
I was promised bananas AND better weather.
Posted by: These fish sticks are hard as tits at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (1L9V9) 259
OT, DJIA +350 - death and recession are imminent.
Posted by: IC at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (a0IVu) ........ The end is near. Posted by: wth at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (v0R5T) 260
He is not reticent at all. He is a scrapper. If he is holding fire then he has a reason that *he* thinks is sufficient to do so.
Beyond that I cannot say what his reasoning may be. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (hLRSq) Trump very publicly ordered the release of the FISA documents A YEAR AGO. And somehow was talked out of it. We still have not seen them. Why? Slow rolling the information so the Public will not be outraged. Its Bush post 9/11 all over again. They are afraid of the Righteous ANGER of the American people. And thus, nothing ever gets fixed. Posted by: Don Q at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (NgKpN) 261
Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify everything months ago. Nada. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:39 PM (CQ3Qb) Yup. Big mistake by Trump. Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (Fs5vw) 262
If the FBI guys had any integrity or honor
You can stop right there. They have none. Company Men. All. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 12:37 PM (mezN+) We're gonna need some new FBI guys, I guess. Posted by: Dwayne T Robinson at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (5v5Zx) Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (mezN+) 264
>>>He is not reticent at all. He is a scrapper. If he is holding fire then he has a reason that *he* thinks is sufficient to do so.
Beyond that I cannot say what his reasoning may be. Posted by: Mikey NTH - One must have faith in leaders and they have failed us for decades. However, Trump has been a man of his word from day one. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (lfmil) 265
The lie of the day from Marcy Darcy.
Oliver Darcy@oliverdarcy This is why @Lawrence's irresponsible actions are so damaging. Obviously there's a big difference between O'Donnell and the rest of press. But that's not how Trump will frame it. And many will walk away with the impression that a news anchor (not opinion host) slandered POTUS. Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (+y/Ru) 266
Heh. I've heard for weeks and weeks about the president declassifying reports on the attempted coup. Some may have been released, but if so, I haven't seen them yet,
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:38 PM (VWp7G) ___ Fill in the blank... #Two______ Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (P/pfC) 267
Given how bad it makes Comey look, not even CNN can spin it. ====== No need to Spin when you also have the Ignore and Bury options. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (7OILk) 268
Next time Stretch is walking the forest, I hope a tree falls on him. Or he's gang raped by the squirrels.
Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 29, 2019 12:42 PM (C1Lsn) 269
Thehellwithit. We got rain and the chanterelles are up. THAT is the important news.
*wanders off in search of tick repellant* Posted by: creeper at August 29, 2019 12:43 PM (mUeTE) 270
what if not prosecuting him is part of an agreement to testify against other higher ups as soon as others can be brought into the same fold and theyre not announcing that so that comey and others dont get epsteined
Posted by: sound awake at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (wYb2i) There is a secret space fleet orbiting Mars loaded with Republican Space Marines just waiting for the perfect moment to set things right. Any day now... Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:43 PM (ltuaO) 271
I remember when the DOJ and other 3 letter agencies underneath them incinerated a church, complete with mothers and babies, by the dozens.
Promotions were passed out all around. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:44 PM (w7KSn) 272
>>>Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify everything months ago. Nada.
Guy talks a good game, but he's not better than the rest of them. This is enough to turn a lot of conservatives away from the ballot box. Just sit out and let it burn as we used to say. No matter who wins in 2020, law and order is effectively dead. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:44 PM (VWp7G) 273
A scathing report from the Trump administration followed by no prosecution will soon be seen as a badge of honor to Leftists. "Harsh words" will only embolden them.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (CQ3Qb) You're right, and Trump will need to get his enemies on the many, many crimes they have committed. This is nowhere near the worst of what Comey has been accused of, and there is still time. But not as much as we had in Jan. 2017, obviously. Posted by: trev006 at August 29, 2019 12:44 PM (HOhHO) 274
This can't stand.
Posted by: Iblis at August 29, 2019 12:44 PM (nMran) 275
>>STUDY: Marriage Wards Off Dementia...
>>>I HAVE NO EYE FOR FASHION!!?? thanks for the laugh, estelle. i needed it. Posted by: trapper's girl at August 29, 2019 12:45 PM (tU1YH) 276
Its Bush post 9/11 all over again. Posted by: Don Q ======= That's how it feels to me, too. Karl Rove: (impatient huff) "We're not going to relitigate this." Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:45 PM (7OILk) 277
So all authority will be suspect. The trust is already gone.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:30 PM (cY3LT) Prosecuting all of the culprits regains trust. Sweeping it all under the rug is what wipes out trust. Posted by: WOPR at August 29, 2019 12:33 PM (WVeiZ) Exactly. But I ain't seeing no prosecutions. All I see are brooms. Posted by: BurtTC at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (cY3LT) 278
Given how bad it makes Comey
look, not even CNN can spin it. The report on Hillary was inconceivably damning, she was blatantly guilty of hundreds, even thousands of individual violations of federal law, from espionage and on down. Nobody disputed that. All they said was "well we can't get anyone to prosecute this" and then washed their hands. Even Comey admitted flat out that she had done illegal things over and over again. How's she doing now? Her supporters say it was all lies, because she was never prosecuted. The general public doesn't know really what happened, but suspects she was not treated fairly. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (KZzsI) 279
"Where can I get in on this immune-to-the-law club?"
I heard there's this crossroads on Highway 61 you might be able to find something.... Posted by: One More Zap Rowsdower at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (1Ja6u) 280
Is this the "thank you" to Comey for not indicting Cankles?
Posted by: Ladyl urgent prayer needed for Laura and Allison at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (TdMsT) 281
I noticed my Starbucks quit selling newspapers...the Seattle Rag, the NYT, and USA Today, I guess Amerika will not hear this Comey "news" at least around here.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (axyOa) 282
Woodpeckers are back
Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (a4qVe) 283
what's most important that changes are made so that a future Deep State cabal can never do this again.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM They're so doggone cute when they're young! Posted by: The Deep State Cabal at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (oyk+H) 284
I remember when the DOJ and other 3 letter agencies
underneath them incinerated a church, complete with mothers and babies, by the dozens. Promotions were passed out all around. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:44 PM (w7KSn) *counts on fingers* Whew! Posted by: BATFE agent at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (5v5Zx) 285
277: And really big rugs. But, hey, someone said Barr was a clean-up guy.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (U7k5w) 286
WHY ISN'T ACE COVERING THE DOW??!?
Posted by: Kurt, doing inhalants and earning three poppers every 15 posts at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (oZ6kz) 287
I can't remember the eastern block country but the military flat refused to fight the citizens. --------- Maybe you're thinking of Romania? After the riots spilled over out of Timisoara into the rest of the country, Securitate sided with the Ceausescus, and the military hunted them down in Targoviste and put a few mags of 7.62 through the pigs. Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (AzW6q) 288
Guy talks a good game, but he's not better than the rest of them. This is enough to turn a lot of conservatives away from the ballot box. Just sit out and let it burn as we used to say. No matter who wins in 2020, law and order is effectively dead.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:44 PM (VWp7G) You're looking at it from a political perspective, Barr is playing a legal poker match, where you hold onto your cards until the last minute, because you don't want the other players to see what you've got until you throw down. It's easy to blame Barr for not declassifying, but obviously Trump agrees, because Trump has all the authority to declassify anything he feels like declassifying, but he hasn't done it. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (Kpl3J) 289
Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify everything months ago. Nada. ===== Barr apparently doesn't see things the way we do. There's a process to go through to address issues as they come up. I don't think he sees the existential threat or the fundamental transformation of the republic from its founding and its principles to what it is now. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (7OILk) 290
This is enough to turn a lot of conservatives away from the ballot box. Just sit out and let it burn as we used to say. No matter who wins in 2020, law and order is effectively dead.
Yes, it is. And if there is not real progress, real heads rolling, real people in orange jumpsuits by November 2020, its going to cost the president. If he can't get even that much done, what's the point of voting for ANYONE?? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (KZzsI) 291
DJIA +350 - death and recession are imminent.
- Gloom despair and agony on me Deep dark recession excessive misery If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all Gloom, despair, and agony on me Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (+y/Ru) 292
I think that Trump and Barr are more focused on rehabbing the DoJ and FBI than burning them to the ground.
The burning is more satisfying, sure. If it were me, I would have disbanded the FBI already. But they do a lot of real criminal work. Or so it would appear. Posted by: blaster at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (9VeU0) 293
Do they allege he broke laws, or only policies and rules?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (NF7WJ) 294
Is there anyone actually in charge at the DOJ?
Posted by: creeper at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (mUeTE) The evidence suggests it's Hillary. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (ltuaO) Posted by: The Revolution of Lower Expectations at August 29, 2019 12:48 PM (UFLLM) 296
>>Given how bad it makes Comey
look, not even CNN can spin it. Kidding, right? He can do what the Clintons and their fans do: "You smear me with all sorts of lies, but if I were committing these crimes they would have prosecuted." Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 12:48 PM (bDqIh) 297
Just sit out and let it burn as we used to say. No matter who wins in 2020, law and order is effectively dead.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp I'll vote for Trump for four more years. I need that time before the Burning Times. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (eDmrZ) 298
How's she doing now? Her supporters say it was all lies, because she was never prosecuted. The general public doesn't know really what happened, but suspects she was not treated fairly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (KZzsI) And who can blame them, as surely if they thought she violated the law, they'd have charged her. This whole thing is a disgrace. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (U7k5w) 299
There is a secret space fleet orbiting Mars loaded with Republican Space Marines just waiting for the perfect moment to set things right.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:43 PM You are not supposed to know this! Posted by: Sgt. Steiner at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (oyk+H) 300
>>>How's she doing now? Her supporters say it was all lies, because she was never prosecuted. The general public doesn't know really what happened, but suspects she was not treated fairly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (KZzsI) And, fat-dumb-and-happy-, wearing an absurd costume goes for a public walk with a friend. Proclaiming, Fuck You. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (lfmil) 301
You're looking at it from a political perspective, Barr is playing a legal poker match, where you hold onto your cards until the last minute, because you don't want the other players to see what you've got until you throw down. Posted by: Tom Servo ====== This is my one thread of hope. Lie low so the double agents don't go into a frenzy of file-shredding, server-drilling, and lie-coordinating. I would expect they've already done so, however. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (7OILk) 302
Cops, especially the younger ones, don't care the city treats them like a number. Agents probably don't either.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:40 PM (VWp7G) Old rule: if you don't demand that you be treated with respect, you won't be. Posted by: Tom Servo at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (Kpl3J) 303
Imagine they did prosecute Comey et al., and Barky's involvement came out, as it almost inevitably would, unless Comey got epsteined.
Then there would be the thorny question: whether to prosecute Barky himself or not. If not, then any pretense of rule by law goes over the side. If so, the Reds would be howling about a witch hunt, and pushing for impeachment all over again, while the ghettos would have their excuse to riot and get that flat screen TV they've been eyeing for a while. In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (k1TRb) 304
The press isn't saying recession is immanent, they are stating flat out that the economy is bad RIGHT NOW. They are looking at white and stating black, they are stating a deliberate lie, the opposite of the truth, on purpose.
Its one thing to spin things, or to show bias? But to simply say the exact opposite of the truth, on purpose??? That's crossing a line even Cronkite would not. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (KZzsI) 305
>>>It's easy to blame Barr for not declassifying, but obviously Trump agrees, because Trump has all the authority to declassify anything he feels like declassifying, but he hasn't done it.
Agreed. The buck stops there. Maybe he thinks because he's president all the other things are trivial? All these traitorous bastards, Comey, McCabe, Strzok, page, Brennan, etc. need to be punished, or at least charged. Not doing that, in my opinion, makes Trump a swamp member. You are either going to clean it or wade in it. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (VWp7G) 306
Do they allege he broke laws, or only policies and rules?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 Mishandling classified documents IS black letter law. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (eDmrZ) 307
299 There is a secret space fleet orbiting Mars loaded with Republican Space Marines just waiting for the perfect moment to set things right.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:43 PM Dude wtf? Posted by: Bob from the NSA at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (k76MH) 308
No puddin', no trial No puddin', no trial No puddin', no trial No puddin', no trial 'Cause, 'cause, 'cause I remember when we used to comment In the message board in Hordetown Ace-o observing the 'ypocrites Mingle with the good people we meet Good friends we have, oh, good friends we've lost Along the way In this great future, you can't forget your past So dry your tears, I seh No puddin', no trial No puddin', no trial 'Ere, little darlin', don't shed no tears No puddin', no trial Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (YA914) 309
Like one day of heat or one storm does not the climate make, one day of the Dow does not an economy make.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (aS1PU) 310
You're looking at it from a political perspective, Barr is playing a
legal poker match, where you hold onto your cards until the last minute, because you don't want the other players to see what you've got until you throw down. Posted by: Tom Servo Except this isn't a fucking game. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (CQ3Qb) 311
I noticed my Starbucks quit selling newspapers...the Seattle Rag, the NYT, and USA Today,
- The NYT: The Jussie Smollett of Newspapers Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (+y/Ru) 312
293 Do they allege he broke laws, or only policies and rules?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (NF7WJ) Laws have been downgraded to policies, sort of like routinely coming back late from lunch. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (U7k5w) 313
Comey was never going to get convicted for anything by a DC jury, but at the very least they should have indicted him.
Posted by: Jose at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (V6W16) 314
That shooting war keeps looking better and better
Posted by: Uncle Pinochet 's Helicopter Rides at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (uaE7n) 315
So can I unbuckle now? Hello? Hannity, hello?
Posted by: wth at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (v0R5T) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (r+sAi) 317
The Press and DOJ are joined at the hip, and they are both as corrupt as can be.
That should be abundantly clear by now. Posted by: navybrat, sometime commentater at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (w7KSn) Posted by: DOJ at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (X8Wdb) 319
Mishandling classified documents IS black letter law.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (eDmrZ) Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (U7k5w) 320
In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara Not prosecuting him will too. Because it's not just him. It's everyone that took part in the coup. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM (eDmrZ) 321
nd really big rugs. But, hey, someone said Barr was a clean-up guy.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM It's the rug that ties it all together. Posted by: El Duderino at August 29, 2019 12:52 PM (oyk+H) 322
Meanwhile, Mueller and his fans can point to the number of prosecutions they made as proof that there was Russia collusion. People can say - "No Russia involvement? Then why were 13 [or whatever] Russians prosecuted and their company prosecuted?"
People who followed that case know it was bogus; Mueller's team did this precisely because they knew the Russian would never defend themselves in court. When they did, the case fell apart; Mueller's team was going for the numbers. The Left and MSM took this mat, and now use the "Russians were prosecuted" as proof of collusion argument. Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 12:52 PM (bDqIh) 323
Mishandling classified documents IS black letter law.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (eDmrZ) Well, now it's not. He violated his employment agreement and was fired. Horowitz said so. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:52 PM (U7k5w) 324
There is a secret space fleet orbiting Mars loaded with Republican Space Marines just waiting for the perfect moment to set things right. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 12:43 PM Dude wtf? Posted by: Bob from the NSA at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM season three of The Expanse
Posted by: AltonJackson 325
139 We are officially a banana republik
Posted by: Fish And yes.......we have no bananas. Posted by: JT at August 29, 2019 12:23 PM (arJlL) =============================== People say that, but we're actually an Apple republic Posted by: CNN at August 29, 2019 12:52 PM (N0If5) 326
>>>In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (k1TRb) If the state is that weak it's going to blow up anyway. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:52 PM (lfmil) 327
"The biggest example of organized crime in this country is the coup that is going on right now" says Larry Nichols, who was on the ground cleaning up after Iran Contra. In the interview they compare some of those coverups with today (too big/corrupt to fail, too big/corrupt to jail).
He also says we are just a few months away from these crooks getting the commie/criminal win they've wanted for decades ... turning America into a socialist country. He has some hope in Barr, but says the next couple months will tell if Barr is going to prosecute or cover up. tick tock. https://tinyurl.com/y268wvz4 Posted by: illiniwek at August 29, 2019 12:53 PM (Cus5s) 328
But they do a lot of real criminal work. Or so it would appear.
Posted by: blaster Of course they do. They're real criminals. Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:53 PM (AM1GF) 329
These offenses are firing offenses to be sure. I'm not sure you could get a jury to convict him on these charges though. Actually, I am pretty sure you could not, given a jury you could put together in DC???
Let's wait for the FISA IG report.. maybe we can nail Big Jim on something there.. although, I also still doubt it... they created their own evidence to use as cause for a FISA warrant.. it is so convoluted a story, with so many players in at different levels, no jury would be able to follow it. Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 29, 2019 12:53 PM (so+oy) 330
In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara No, it wouldn't. But it does sound better than his friends let him off. Labor Day party at Jim's!!! Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (U7k5w) 331
This is my one thread of hope. Lie low so the double agents don't go into a frenzy of file-shredding, server-drilling, and lie-coordinating. I would expect they've already done so, however. Posted by: Blonde Morticia ====== Oh yeah, I was going to add, And then he springs all his Big Busts at once. lolol at myself. This was literally the content of one of the major Episodes of my psychotic friend. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (7OILk) 332
Comey violated his Professional Ethical Duty of Confidentiality against his client by leaking his clients confidential information to a party that had no right to have that information and that his employer had not given him permission to leak.
This Rule is outside the ambit of attorney client priviledge and applies to information a lawyer obtains in the course of their work for a client and not from the client directly as that would be protected from dislosure by attorney client privilege which belongs to the client. It is stuff not generally known to the public and can reach information that others know of but the general public does not. For that violation of his ethic duty of confidentiality Comey is subject to the Bar for discipline in the jurisdictions in which he is licensed to practice law. This is law school 1st year stuff I learned. Who with standing is going to file a complaint? Hopefully Judicial Watch. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (Y274z) 333
If all of these Comey notes aren't technically "classified" then why haven't they all been released?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (CQ3Qb) 334
Barr is playing a legal poker match, where you hold onto your cards until the last minute, because you don't want the other players to see what you've got until you throw down.
That's not a statement of what is happening. That's a statement of what you hope is happening. What is actually going on, none of us know, but it has all the appearances of someone who does not wish to release that info. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (KZzsI) 335
People who followed that case know it was bogus; Mueller's team did this precisely because they knew the Russian would never defend themselves in court. When they did, the case fell apart; Mueller's team was going for the numbers.
The Left and MSM took this mat, and now use the "Russians were prosecuted" as proof of collusion argument. Posted by: Lizzy And there was no coup because no one has been prosecuted. Funny how that works like that. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (eDmrZ) 336
I've got a lovely pair of coconuts.
Posted by: Old Man on Benny Hill at August 29, 2019 12:28 PM (5v5Zx) clip-clop clip-clop clip-clop Posted by: Patsy at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (DUw3D) 337
This is my one thread of hope. Lie low so the double agents don't go into a frenzy of file-shredding, server-drilling, and lie-coordinating. I would expect they've already done so, however.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (7OILk) When you have the FBI itself helping with the cover up (all those destroyed Phones, and punting on the Clinton emails found on a certain Pedo's computer)? Time is not your friend. Justice delayed WILL be Justice denied. Hell, if they can reach into a Prison, TWICE, to get problematic people killed (Whitey Bulger and Epstein), not to mention Seth Rich? I'd guess some people in power are AFRAID to really rock the boat too much. Posted by: Don Q at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (NgKpN) 338
319 Mishandling classified documents IS black letter law.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:51 PM ---------- Maybe for you buster Signed Rev. James Comey, Esquire Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at August 29, 2019 12:55 PM (7BjFu) 339
OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars.
Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:55 PM (lfmil) 340
This is baked into the audit standards that they have to follow. So, Horowitz may or may not be a great IG, but he is constrained in what he can report. They excerpts I've seen contain very harsh language for an IG report.
Posted by: Virginia SoCon at August 29, 2019 12:16 PM (+/C3g) the problem is, idc how scathing his report is, the media will whitewash it by saying he's not being prosecuted, the DOJ won't prosecute so he gets no consequences from that, and the LIV will only see the media whitewash and determine that all of us are the crazy people, Comey did nothing wrong, and PDJT should be removed from office since Comey was in the right... Posted by: SturmToddler at August 29, 2019 12:55 PM (8D42x) 341
I've got a lovely pair of coconuts.
Posted by: Old Man on Benny Hill at August 29, 2019 12:28 PM Could we have them? We both need new tops. Posted by: Mary Anne & Ginger at August 29, 2019 12:55 PM (oyk+H) 342
Then there would be the thorny question: whether to prosecute Barky himself or not. If not, then any pretense of rule by law goes over the side. If so, the Reds would be howling about a witch hunt, and pushing for impeachment all over again, while the ghettos would have their excuse to riot and get that flat screen TV they've been eyeing for a while. In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara ======= The crimes of Hillary and Obama are simple. Prosecute them, sentence them, and then Trump pardons them. That's how it has to go down. They have to get criminal records and then be allowed to live their skulking lives. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (7OILk) 343
Do they allege he broke laws, or only policies and rules?
Posted by: Buzzsaw90 at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (NF7WJ) Laws have been downgraded to policies, sort of like routinely coming back late from lunch. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (U7k5w) It's more like guidelines. Posted by: Captain Barbossa at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (5v5Zx) 344
Comey's out there demanding an apology and that fucking Barr just takes it?
Barr should put out a press release on the IG report and mention that they have declined to prosecute Comey 'at this time'. Posted by: motionview at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (pYQR/) 345
Maybe you're thinking of Romania? After the riots spilled over out of Timisoara into the rest of the country, Securitate sided with the Ceausescus, and the military hunted them down in Targoviste and put a few mags of 7.62 through the pigs.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (AzW6q) The military guys bought lottery shares to maximize their chances to be part of the firing squad. Old Nick was a scared old man but Elena was a bitch to the end, calling the soldiers sons of whores before being aerated. Posted by: Captain Hate at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (y7DUB) 346
Mishandling classified documents IS black letter law.
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:50 PM (eDmrZ) Haven't you heard? Comey's above the law. Posted by: Your Betters in the DOJ at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (24wi6) 347
m not sure you could get a jury to convict him on these charges though. Actually, I am pretty sure you could not, given a jury you could put together in DC???
There are ways around that. The jury doesn't have to be from DC. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (KZzsI) 348
I'm not sure you could get a jury to convict him on these charges though.
That's what trials are for. You'll note that the left never hesitates to charge and prosecute Republicans/conservatives when it can. Ask Tom Delay about that. Or Kay Bailey Hutchison. Or Ollie North. Or Ted Stevens. I don't expect the GOP to when every fight, but I expect them to fight. If not, what's the point of them? Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (ppBhU) 349
I'm feeling a social justice boner coming on.
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (vtcmf) 350
OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn ====== We'll fuck it up. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (7OILk) 351
Where can I get in on this immune-to-the-law club?
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans Renounce your citizenship. Then illegally enter the country. Posted by: Biergood at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (uGKH7) 352
OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars.
Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn Fuck that. In five years we'll be a patchwork of squabbling warlords clawing for whatever's left. Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (AM1GF) 353
"303 Imagine they did prosecute Comey et al., and Barky's involvement came out, as it almost inevitably would, unless Comey got epsteined.
Then there would be the thorny question: whether to prosecute Barky himself or not. If not, then any pretense of rule by law goes over the side. If so, the Reds would be howling about a witch hunt, and pushing for impeachment all over again, while the ghettos would have their excuse to riot and get that flat screen TV they've been eyeing for a while. In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war." Not prosecuting him represents an internal revolution/coup, which in fact occurred some time back. This is not *our* government but degenerate rulers with hostile intent. States need to routinely disregard federal edicts. Sanctuary states and cities already do without repercussion but that's only because open borders are Deep State policy. It will be interesting to see the two-tier thing kick into gear when state police agencies stop having any cooperation at all with the FBI, ATF, DEA, etc. That's going to happen and trigger a nasty federal response despite gloomy prospects for anything approaching a civil reformation. Posted by: Trump poisoned my cat at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (iw59Q) 354
Off sock.
Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (k76MH) 355
289
Trump gave Barr the authority to declassify everything months ago. Nada. ===== Barr apparently doesn't see things the way we do. There's a process to go through to address issues as they come up. I don't think he sees the existential threat or the fundamental transformation of the republic from its founding and its principles to what it is now. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM (7OILk) I recall before the Mueller Report crashed and burned all over the Left, MSM, and DNC's hopes, people were very vociferous on how Trump had to act, to do something, fire someone, announce something, so on and so forth. And as it turns out, that was exactly the wrong tactic, the advice he was given was full cooperation because what Trump's foes were trying to do was goad him into doing something that would support an obstruction charge. Knowing how that played out I speculate that there is another patient long game being played here rather than a rolling over. Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (hLRSq) 356
In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (k1TRb) Not prosecuting Comey may start a civil war. Yes, we're at that point. I'd rather fight one knowing we were doing the right and lawful thing of prosecuting that shitheal. Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (Fs5vw) 357
These offenses are firing offenses to be sure. I'm not sure you could get a jury to convict him on these charges though. Actually, I am pretty sure you could not, given a jury you could put together in DC???
Would mishandling classified info/documents go to a jury trial? How is it set up when you get your security clearance? Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (eDmrZ) 358
This is where I would put my words if I had any that would adequately express my disappointment.
Posted by: OCBill at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (df+Zi) Posted by: The Revolution of Lower Expectations at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (UFLLM) 360
The crimes of Hillary and Obama are simple. Prosecute them, sentence them, and then Trump pardons them.
I agree. Trump seems magnanimous, they're proven criminals. None of this "they didn't charge anyone! They're not guilty!" crap. Nail them to the wall and then say 'for the good of the country...' Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (KZzsI) 361
3 years of this shit.
Posted by: wth at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (v0R5T) 362
This stuff pisses me off. I sweated blood to learn all these Rules over a course of 4 years and now watch others flaunt them.
Saul Goodman is working for the government. You can bet your last dime on it. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (Y274z) Posted by: ... at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (atTrV) 364
The Babylon Bee is red hot today.
Worldviews New Reversible Bumper Sticker Can Switch Between 'COEXIST' And 'RESIST' Depending On Who The President Is August 28th, 2019 Chick-Fil-A Installs Confessionals So You Can Repent From Eating At Popeyes Report: Judas Iscariot Was Seen At Popeyes Shortly Before Betraying Christ CNN Apologizes To Stalin, Mao After Comparing Them To Trump Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (+y/Ru) 365
There is no justice. There's just us.
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (vtcmf) 366
Comey scratched Hillary and Obama's back and now Obama's henchmen at the DOJ are returning the favor.
The only shocking thing about any of this is how people expected anything different to happen. Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (P/pfC) 367
The crimes of Hillary and Obama are simple.
Prosecute them, sentence them, and then Trump pardons them. That's how it has to go down. They have to get criminal records and then be allowed to live their skulking lives. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (7OILk) Trump could pre-emptively issue pardons before any charges are even filed. I half-jokingly suggested he do that his first day in office before the Russians! Hoax, just so we we wouldn't have to hear about Hillary's court battles for the next 10 years and she could be forgotten in disgrace (back when I thought he was serious with the whole Lock Her Up thing).. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (CQ3Qb) 368
347 m not sure you could get a jury to convict him on these charges though. Actually, I am pretty sure you could not, given a jury you could put together in DC???
There are ways around that. The jury doesn't have to be from DC. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:56 PM (KZzsI) Try him in Oklahoma. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (lfmil) 369
nd really big rugs. But, hey, someone said Barr was a clean-up guy.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 12:47 PM It's the rug that ties it all together. Posted by: El Duderino at August 29, 2019 12:52 PM (oyk+H) Yes it does. Posted by: Sam Donaldson, ABC Newsman Emeritus at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (5v5Zx) 370
So the excuse that he cannot prosecute is because it is an election year. Right. If the tables were turned and the Rs and Ds were switched, the demoncrats wiould be making hay on this till election day!
Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (ZZpwO) 371
"OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars."
How would a base on the moon be of any help? Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (eAZVt) 372
In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (k1TRb) Seriously, I think it will either way. because we definitely see a 2 tier justice system now. how long do you think that will last? the unhinged left is already targeting us, and now those in the upper reaches aren't being prosecuted for things we'd spend time making big rocks into little rocks. Posted by: SturmToddler at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (8D42x) 373
Knowing how that played out I speculate that there is another patient long game being played here rather than a rolling over.
Posted by: Mikey NTH - Get Your Fat Girl Throws Down Training Videos at The Outrage Outlet! Only a fool plays a long game on a short clock. Posted by: Grand Inquisitor Cavil, ready to cut a bitch regarding the taxonomy of theology at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (AM1GF) 374
You know what? It's pretty clear the US Government as founded, exists in name only.
All of us Texans need to have a conversation about this with our state reps. Texas joined the USA by treaty, treaties are only valid as long as both parties exist, and the USA that was is gone forever. As there can no longer be said to be a USA in any meaningful way, we are legally and rightfully an independent nation again. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (J+mig) 375
Knowing how that played out I speculate that there is another patient long game being played here rather than a rolling over.
That worked in 2018. We're a matter of months from the national election and the closer you get to it, the less you can act without it seeming just crass politics. They're rapidly running out of time to run their "long game" assuming that's really what is going on. THEY NEED TO ACT NOW. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (KZzsI) 376
We can free all the enslaved sea mammals at Sea World and let them live free in the Sea of Tranquility! Posted by: The Revolution of Lower Expectations at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (UFLLM) 377
159 Where's AllenG?
Posted by: Sooner He went OrAnGeMaN BAD and never came back. Posted by: weft cut-loop lol. Trump's the closest we've ever gotten to burning it down and scattering the stones and salting the earth. I guess he wanted it done politely. Posted by: x at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (nFwvY) 378
CNN Apologizes To Stalin, Mao After Comparing Them To Trump
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 12:58 PM (+y/Ru) This part smells true. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (U7k5w) 379
When you have the FBI itself helping with the cover up (all those destroyed Phones, and punting on the Clinton emails found on a certain Pedo's computer)? Posted by: Don Q ======= That's why I call it a "thread" of hope. A kitten could break it with its bare teeth. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (7OILk) 380
not sure you could get a jury to convict him on these charges though. Actually, I am pretty sure you could not, given a jury you could put together in DC???
There are ways around that. The jury doesn't have to be from DC. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor I'm not so sure that would be a jury trial. The jury would have to be "read in" on any classified document released in court. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (eDmrZ) 381
Turning Left: NASCAR Bans Firearm Ads, Cites 'Gradual Shift' on Guns
https://t.co/ztK07GHMiq "We just heard from NASCAR on a number of gun related ads and unfortunately, due to a gradual shift in NASCAR's position on guns, these ads must be edited/changed - especially those that are depicted as assault-style rifles/sniper rifles. NASCAR is still open to some of the less controversial gun accessories, concealed carry, or classes." Posted by: BetaCuck4Life at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (9BmSv) Posted by: Boswell at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (32YRo) Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (r+sAi) 384
371 "OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars."
How would a base on the moon be of any help? Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (eAZVt) Pit stop? Posted by: Someguy at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (4i8PS) Posted by: The Revolution of Lower Expectations at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (UFLLM) 386
How would a base on the moon be of any help?
Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (eAZVt) ___ Uhm it just will OK Posted by: Defense Contractors Who Will Make a Killing Building The Moon Base at August 29, 2019 01:00 PM (P/pfC) 387
What is actually going on, none of us know, but it has all the appearances of someone who does not wish to release that info.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:54 PM (KZzsI) Yes, I agree. The $64,000 question is for what purpose does he not wish to release it. Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (kUmUV) 388
T: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars.
Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn Guarded by...... SPACE FORCE!! Posted by: Roland THTG at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (88+cf) 389
One reason not to prosecute Comey, is he could be helping prosecute Brennan.
Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (B7KlG) 390
How would a base on the moon be of any help?
Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (eAZVt) Based on my knowledge of science fiction, I assume it involves slingshots, gravity and big breasted alien women. Posted by: What's a Seawolf? at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (k76MH) 391
>>>"We just heard from NASCAR on a number of gun related ads and unfortunately, due to a gradual shift in NASCAR's position on guns, these ads must be edited/changed - especially those that are depicted as assault-style rifles/sniper rifles. NASCAR is still open to some of the less controversial gun accessories, concealed carry, or classes."
Get woke, go broke. NASCAR has been dying a slow death for a decade now. Empty seats, empty coffers. Might as well go all SJW. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (bkUtD) 392
All of us Texans need to have a conversation about this with our state reps.
Texas joined the USA by treaty, treaties are only valid as long as both parties exist, and the USA that was is gone forever. As there can no longer be said to be a USA in any meaningful way, we are legally and rightfully an independent nation again. Posted by: Cato, Bing Texas Nationalist Movement. They are the group that is about secession. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (eDmrZ) 393
371 "OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars."
How would a base on the moon be of any help? Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (eAZVt) Ask Mike Pence, he's the man with the plan. He also said we are going to have the next man on the moon. And the first woman. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (lfmil) 394
I thought the car sponsored by the thing-that-goes-up was with Pfizer....
Posted by: Warai-otoko at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (A994L) 395
Here is another Rule of Professional Coduct.
A lawyer MUST report another lawyer's violations of the Rules of professional Conduct to the Bar if they KNOW the lawyer violated the Rules. Here the IG reports a lawyer violated the Rules. Has the IG reported Comey to the Bar. See...that's two violations. One for Comey and one for the IG. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (Y274z) 396
The only other scenario that I see playing out is that all prosecutions happen after the election. Hopefully with Trump in office and the house back in repub hands. Keeps those screaming impeachment far in the background.
Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (Fs5vw) Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (7OILk) 398
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One reason not to prosecute Comey, is he could be helping prosecute Brennan. Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (B7KlG) No that would be a reason TO prosecute Comey. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (CQ3Qb) 399
THEY NEED TO ACT NOW. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (KZzsI) They needed to act as soon as they got into office. This "trust the plan" shit was written by donks to calm conservatives and minimize action. Nothing cools off people's anger more, than hearing that if you just wait quietly, it will all be taken care of. This Q shit was a donk subterfuge. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (U7k5w) Posted by: Bob at the NSA at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (r+sAi) 401
OT: We will have a permanent base on the moon in five years to assist our flights to Mars.
Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn ====== We'll fuck it up. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 12:57 PM (7OILk) And within six months of being established and with regular resupply flights running, the first illegal alien stowaway will arrive at the moon colony demanding rights and benefits. Posted by: Count de Monet at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (5v5Zx) 402
One reason not to prosecute Comey, is he could be helping prosecute Brennan.
Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (B7KlG) I dont think thats water ou want to pour down my back. It looks too yellow. Posted by: Get Real at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (vqIkG) 403
I've been boycotting NASCAR since I was born. The boycott shall continue.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (P/pfC) 404
How would a base on the moon be of any help?
Posted by: Chris M Assemble shit and launch it at 16% of Earth gravity. Posted by: Roland THTG at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (88+cf) 405
The only other scenario that I see playing out is that all prosecutions happen after the election. Hopefully with Trump in office and the house back in repub hands. Keeps those screaming impeachment far in the background. Posted by: Sooner ===== That's the same as the plot for the Green New Deal except with the parties reversed. Our hopes are as useless as theirs. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (7OILk) 406
#309 The woman will be a lesbian, right?
Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (Y274z) 407
He also said we are going to have the next man on the moon.
And the first woman. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (lfmil But is there enough gravity on the moon for engineering purposes? Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (kUmUV) 408
Here the IG reports a lawyer violated the Rules. Has the IG reported Comey to the Bar.
See...that's two violations. One for Comey and one for the IG. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (Y274z) You really think Comey has plans to practice law in the future??? LOL!!! How did Bill Clinton's disbarment hurt him? Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 01:03 PM (CQ3Qb) 409
I love a parade.
Posted by: Pine-scented Druid philosopher James Comey at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (vtcmf) 410
One reason not to prosecute Comey, is he could be helping prosecute Brennan.
Posted by: Jean at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (B7KlG) And one reason not to prosecute Brennan is he could be helping prosecute Clapper. And one reason not to prosecute Clapper is he could be helping prosecute Comey. The circle of life. Acuna matatta. Posted by: DR.WTF at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (aS1PU) 411
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#309 The woman will be a lesbian, right? Yes, but she will still do backdoor stuff, to get the record. Posted by: The Revolution of Lower Expectations at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (UFLLM) 412
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The only other scenario that I see playing out is that all prosecutions happen after the election. Hopefully with Trump in office and the house back in repub hands. Keeps those screaming impeachment far in the background. Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 01:02 PM (Fs5vw) Trump would be a fool to run on the "Lock Them Up!" platform again with Hillary walking around free. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (CQ3Qb) 413
Low cost Moon labor!
Posted by: Roland THTG at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (88+cf) 414
Texas Nationalist Movement, yeah, that secession thing's been tried before.
Best thing is to let the US fall apart around it. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (lfmil) 415
Yes, I agree. The $64,000 question is for what purpose does he not wish to release it.
Posted by: moon_over_vermont at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (kUmUV) Because Hillary might get all drunk and disorderly and decide not to be anointed in 2020. Trust the plan. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (U7k5w) 416
The only other scenario that I see playing out is that all prosecutions happen after the election. Hopefully with Trump in office and the house back in repub hands. Keeps those screaming impeachment far in the background.
Posted by: Sooner And if Trump isn't, this dies. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (eDmrZ) 417
In related news Daily Mail has offered Barr a $2M annual salary on a five year contract.
Posted by: Ten at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (CPWXU) 418
DOJ to Americans: "Hey, you fucked up. You trusted us."
Posted by: Boswell at August 29, 2019 01:05 PM (32YRo) 419
Trump would be a fool to run on the "Lock Them Up!" platform again with Hillary walking around free.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (CQ3Qb) He'd look like a total ass. Fool me once... Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:05 PM (U7k5w) Posted by: Jim Morrison at August 29, 2019 01:05 PM (0CeRG) 421
Peeps: get it through your heads...there is no grand plan, no 3d chess. None of that. This is t, a harshly worded letter from the IG and Comey and Co having a good laugh about it.
That's it. Nothing else. No Mas. It's over. Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 01:05 PM (P/pfC) 422
And within six months of being established and with regular resupply flights running, the first illegal alien stowaway will arrive at the moon colony demanding rights and benefits. Posted by: Count de Monet ====== Exactly. And you can also be guaranteed, that illegal alien will be pregnant with conjoined triplets. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:05 PM (7OILk) 423
He also said we are going to have the next man on the moon.
And the first woman. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn As long as she doesn't have to parallel park the lunar rover. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:06 PM (eDmrZ) Posted by: The Revolution of Lower Expectations at August 29, 2019 01:06 PM (UFLLM) 425
The Left hates NASCAR. So naturally NASCAR says lets try to appease the Left. I think the garage fumes have affected their thinking. Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 29, 2019 01:06 PM (r+sAi) 426
Comey's not helping prosecute anybody unless PDT's the one being prosecuted.
This is still the op to "utterly destroy" anybody who even thinks up invading the Deep State and having knowledge of their Pedo Rings ever again. Posted by: Allie (Hikaru) at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (sm6Pk) 427
There is no secret plan.
Steiner isn't coming, not in two weeks, not ever. Zombie Conservatism is dead and has been for some time. The GOP is actively on the other side. That smell isn't just government corruption. We're on our own. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (ltuaO) 428
Remember ANY lawyer in a miscreant lawyer's jurisdiction has a right and a duty to report that lawyer to the Bar.
There has to be ONE with the balls to do so. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (Y274z) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (vEIlU) 430
Severely conservative Jen Rubin:
Jennifer Rubin@JRubinBlogger Replying to @NatashaBertrand and 2 others This is an odd framing. The IG exonerated Comey, meaning Trump's allegation total BS Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (+y/Ru) 431
The Left hates NASCAR. So naturally NASCAR says lets try to appease the Left. I think the garage fumes have affected their thinking.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk The biggest advertiser, Camping World, the CEO got woke and told the right to get fucked. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (eDmrZ) 432
370 So the excuse that he cannot prosecute is because it is an election year. Right. ...
Posted by: SandyCheeks at August 29, 2019 12:59 PM (ZZpwO) My legal eagle buddy says it's they've got to get the ball rolling before Christmas or it'll be put off until after the election. Dec. 7, 2019: Paging General LeMay, paging General LeMay to the flight deck. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (lfmil) 433
If all of these Comey notes aren't technically "classified" then why haven't they all been released? Posted by: Brian in New Orleans ===== Are these notes included in the stuff the ODNI has been stonewalling on? I don't even know how these acronym agencies work together, who has what. I've lost track of who's stonewalling on what. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (7OILk) 434
>>The Left hates NASCAR. So naturally NASCAR says lets try to appease the Left.
To be fair, NASCAR is stupid. Dumber still, now, with their gay 'Playoff' Format. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (mezN+) 435
This is an odd framing. The IG exonerated Comey, meaning Trump's allegation total BS
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (+y/Ru) Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (U7k5w) 436
The Left hates NASCAR. So naturally NASCAR says lets try to appease the Left. I think the garage fumes have affected their thinking.
It's not like its niche fanbase, predominantly not leftists, couldn't punish it. But it won't for the same reason that the NFL doesn't get meaningfully punished. People love their bread and circuses more than politics. Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (ppBhU) 437
414 Texas Nationalist Movement, yeah, that secession thing's been tried before.
Best thing is to let the US fall apart around it. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (lfmil) What United States? The illegitimate Imperial bureaucracy that won't follow it's own laws? That's not the United States. I don't recognize it as such. Posted by: Cato, Collectivism Delenda Est at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (J+mig) 438
The Left will jail Trump and his family as soon as he is out of office. Why wouldn't they?
Posted by: ... at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (atTrV) 439
"Assemble shit and launch it at 16% of Earth gravity."
Everything would have to be launched from earth first. Might as well just assemble it in orbit. Landing on the moon is energy expensive, since there's no atmosphere for braking. The only benefit would be science fiction. A moon base would be awesome to visit, even if pointless. Posted by: Chris M at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (eAZVt) 440
My legal eagle buddy says it's they've got to get the ball rolling before Christmas or it'll be put off until after the election.
Dec. 7, 2019: Paging General LeMay, paging General LeMay to the flight deck. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn And if Trump loses, it gets smothered. Bold move Cotton. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:09 PM (eDmrZ) 441
423 He also said we are going to have the next man on the moon.
And the first woman. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn As long as she doesn't have to parallel park the lunar rover. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:06 PM (eDmrZ) Oh please don't let her drive the landing. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:09 PM (lfmil) 442
This is an odd framing. The IG exonerated Comey, meaning Trump's allegation total BS
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 01:07 PM (+y/Ru) But..but...harsh language was used, Jen. She's sees Horowitz as the Obama slut he is. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:09 PM (U7k5w) 443
This is an odd framing. The IG exonerated Comey, meaning Trump's allegation total BS Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler ===== What? The IG exonerated him? How can an IG do that? This "exoneration" thing is the left's new victory card. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:09 PM (7OILk) 444
Trump should pardon every single person persecuted by Comey and Mueler
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - Giving Brave a test drive fro my we todd did pho e at August 29, 2019 01:09 PM (KKsfG) 445
436 It's not like its niche fanbase, predominantly not leftists, couldn't punish it. But it won't for the same reason that the NFL doesn't get meaningfully punished. People love their bread and circuses more than politics.
Posted by: bear with asymmetrical balls at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (ppBhU) Most of these sorts of people don't "love" politics because they all have something about them that makes them impure in the eyes of the most ardent people on the right, and told to "go home to the left" because of it. Posted by: Allie (Hikaru) at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (sm6Pk) 446
NASCAR can lick itself where it shits. We'll build our own league, with race tracks where the car is always turn to the right... Posted by: Dirty Frank at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (UFLLM) 447
A moon base would be awesome to visit, even if pointless.
Vacation on the Moon? Yeah, I'd like to do that. Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (HaL55) 448
Everybody relax...the tide is finally turning in our direction. And we don't want to be like the left shouting the sky is falling on every fart.
This was actually a pretty damning report on that fuck comey and I am sure the best is still to come Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (p0A33) 449
438 The Left will jail Trump and his family as soon as he is out of office. Why wouldn't they?
Posted by: ... at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (atTrV) And by "jail", you mean "execute". Posted by: Allie (Hikaru) at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (sm6Pk) 450
438 The Left will jail Trump and his family as soon as he is out of office. Why wouldn't they?
Posted by: ... at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (atTrV) And they'll make sure the cameras are non-functional and that the guards are asleep or paid to say so. Practice makes perfect. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (U7k5w) 451
What's the old saying, that any institution that is not explicitly right wing, will over time become left wing.
NASCAR is right on schedule.... Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (P/pfC) 452
>>The only other scenario that I see playing out is that all prosecutions happen after the election.
The lack of prosecution influences the election, such as: -- demoralizes his voters -- can be used to smear Trump as crazy re: claims about Spygate but no prosecutions Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (bDqIh) 453
Might as well just assemble it in orbit. Posted by: Chris M ======= You mean at a space station, or just mid-air (non-air), like refueling a jet? Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (7OILk) 454
A moon base would be awesome to visit, even if pointless.
Vacation on the Moon? Yeah, I'd like to do that. Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (HaL55) If you had a swimming pool on the moon, the average human would be able to breach like a dolphin. I'd also be curious about what moon sports would look likel Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (KUaJL) 455
>>What? The IG exonerated him? How can an IG do that? This "exoneration" thing is the left's new victory card.
No. The IG implicated him and advised prosecution. The DOJ is still there to protect Deep Staters from their illegal actions. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (mezN+) 456
This also may embolden the #Resistance, knowing they can get away with stuff.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (bDqIh) 457
#15 Sorry. If I'm on your jury you will get what the law demands.
Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (Y274z) 458
Vacation on the Moon? Yeah, I'd like to do that.
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (HaL55) Get your ass to Mars. Posted by: Recall at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (aS1PU) 459
448: It was a mealy mouthed exoneration.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (U7k5w) Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (7kbup) 461
444 Trump should pardon every single person persecuted by Comey and Mueler
Posted by: BifBewalskiBot - Giving Brave a test drive fro my we todd did pho e at August 29, 2019 01:09 PM (KKsfG) Big 10-4, and get Manafort the hell out of that torture hole prison. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (lfmil) 462
>>We'll build our own league, with race tracks where the car is always turn to the right...
Take it back to the Dirt / Sand. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (mezN+) 463
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>>The Left hates NASCAR. So naturally NASCAR says lets try to appease the Left. To be fair, NASCAR is stupid. Dumber still, now, with their gay 'Playoff' Format. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (mezN+) Playoff format, racing stages, retirement of marquee drivers, incompetence of the track owners and NASCAR itself on marketing (banning gun ads, apologizing for NRA sponsorship couple years ago), cost of tickets, etc.Nascar is dead, it just doesn't know it yet. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (N39Ws) 464
And if Trump isn't, this dies. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:04 PM (eDmrZ) I'm thinking it's going to die either way. Just throwing things out there for thought. Posted by: Sooner at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (Fs5vw) 465
can be used to smear Trump as crazy re: claims about Spygate but no prosecutions Posted by: Lizzy ====== That's it. He's paranoid, has a persecution complex, lashed out at political enemies and tried to brand them as criminal when they were actually fine upstanding concerned patriots. Brennan Comey et. al. will be given plenty of mic time to campaign against him. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (7OILk) 466
No. The IG implicated him and advised prosecution.
The DOJ is still there to protect Deep Staters from their illegal actions. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (mezN+) Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (U7k5w) 467
No. The IG implicated him and advised prosecution.
The DOJ is still there to protect Deep Staters from their illegal actions. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (mezN+) Where did it recommend prosecution? Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (U7k5w) 468
Speaking of civil war, you wanna know what crazy evil looks like? (Hint:WaPo)
https://bit.ly/342No1g Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (+y/Ru) 469
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (p0A33)
Wow, a harsh report without any real world repercussions. We've been going on three years and other than IG reports, nothing has happened. Let me know when people are going to jail. Otherwise, nothing is being done. Posted by: WOPR at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (WVeiZ) 470
Empty seats, empty coffers. Might as well go all SJW.
Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (bkUtD) Their appeal is becoming more selective! Posted by: GWB at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (DUw3D) 471
Well, that's how a military works.
They are not supposed to question. IIRC didn't we hang Germans for just "following orders"? Posted by: Paladin at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (lhi1/) 472
Hurricane Dorian is headed toward Florida and everyone's already losing their shit. How much fucking bread do you fucking need?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (NWiLs) 473
You don't vacation on the moon, earth person. We vacation on your earth. Get it straight, brother.
Posted by: Ignignokt at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (ppBhU) 474
Everyone should tweet Comey - "and yet Trump won!" all of his coup attempt, lying, leaking Trump won, loser Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (vEIlU) 475
>>Where did it recommend prosecution?
Sorry, rec. indictment (maybe). I am going by the reporting not the report. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (mezN+) 476
How's she doing now? Her supporters say it was all lies, because she was never prosecuted. The general public doesn't know really what happened, but suspects she was not treated fairly.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 12:46 PM (KZzsI) How's she doing? She's doing BAD. Maybe John Huber is dropping the ball hard on the Clinton Foundation investigation, but maybe not. I'm not too concerned: either ineictments happen, or Trump demands Barr resign, or Trump loses the Presidency. 1 and 2 are a lot more likely than 3. Donald Trump is not exactly known for being timid and I believe he has an endorsement deal with the concept of revenge. Posted by: trev006 at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (HOhHO) 477
The DOJ is still there to protect Deep Staters from their illegal actions.
Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:11 PM (mezN+) For what? The IG report said the material was not classified? comey acted like an asshole and brought great shame on him and the FBI but prosecute him for what? We don't want to look like left wing assholes. Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (p0A33) 478
No. The IG implicated him and advised prosecution. The DOJ is still there to protect Deep Staters from their illegal actions. Posted by: garrett ====== I was being kind of...humorous. The IG advises prosecution, DOJ declines, so in Jen's mind (and now the rest of the left) the IG exonerated him! Triumph! OrangeManBad, carry on. Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (7OILk) 479
I see Comey is out and about doing the twitter version of the Jimmy "White shoes" Johnson end zone dance - ugh, can't Barr just go ahead and prosecute this guy for being a complete tool?
Posted by: Boswell at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (32YRo) 480
472 Hurricane Dorian is headed toward Florida and everyone's already losing their shit. How much fucking bread do you fucking need?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (NWiLs) MAOR!!! Posted by: Michael Moore at August 29, 2019 01:15 PM (k76MH) Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 29, 2019 01:15 PM (vEIlU) 482
>>>Tell Me Again What Gen Flynn Did That Was So Illegal?
Posted by: Soothsayer at August 29, 2019 01:12 PM (7kbup) He followed the law and trusted his colleagues. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:15 PM (lfmil) 483
I had to miss a crucial Phillies playoff game once while deployed because AFN decided to show a NASCAR race instead. Fuck that "sport."
Posted by: Biggs Darklighter at August 29, 2019 01:15 PM (N4xQB) 484
470
Empty seats, empty coffers. Might as well go all SJW. Posted by: Wyatt Earp at August 29, 2019 01:01 PM (bkUtD) Their appeal is becoming more selective! Posted by: GWB at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (DUw3D) Next up: During Gay Pride month, they'll let drivers run into the backs of each other. Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 29, 2019 01:15 PM (N39Ws) 485
Comey's actually tweeting smack. And Jimmy has the sack to criticize President Trump for his tweets?
Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at August 29, 2019 01:16 PM (NjJUT) 486
I see Comey is out and about doing the twitter version of the Jimmy "White shoes" Johnson end zone dance - ugh, can't Barr just go ahead and prosecute this guy for being a complete tool?
Posted by: Boswell at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (32YRo) Apparently, it isn't illegal to be a Weird Dude. Posted by: DR.WTF at August 29, 2019 01:16 PM (aS1PU) 487
And yet Gestspo Chief Mueller would persecute anyone in order to suborn perjury
Posted by: Avi at August 29, 2019 01:16 PM (Dep/n) 488
>> The IG report said the material was not classified?
It originated as unclassified and was then at a later date classified - prior to him sharing with his lawyers (Crime) and his Professor Friend and Media (Crime). Regardless of classification, him taking the 7 (?) Memos was also a Criminal Act. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:16 PM (mezN+) 489
438 The Left will jail Trump and his family as soon as he is out of office. Why wouldn't they?
Posted by: ... at August 29, 2019 01:08 PM (atTrV) *shrug* Soon could be five years off. A lot could happen in that time. One thing is for sure, I'm not caring more about politicians than they care about themselves. Posted by: trev006 at August 29, 2019 01:16 PM (HOhHO) 490
@402
Yes, this sort of fantastical thinking borders on lunacy. Typically when you believe you are investigating a criminal conspiracy you start hooking small fish to get to bigger fish, similar to how the Mueller team prosecuted the "Russia Collusion" case. The difference is that there are real crimes and conspiracy here but this case was never seriously pursued as anything as something that must be mitigated and stretched out as long as possible until the inevitable no bills are declared for everyone. Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 29, 2019 01:17 PM (4juur) 491
Everybody relax...the tide is finally turning in our direction. And we don't want to be like the left shouting the sky is falling on every fart.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:10 PM (p0A33) We don't want to be like the guys who have been kicking our asses for the last 50+ years or so...why? The tide is turning in our favor? WTF are you talking about? Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:17 PM (ltuaO) 492
478: I didn't read the part that recommended prosecution. I don't think it did.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:17 PM (U7k5w) 493
Speaking of that, another Somali immigrant stabbed a woman to death in D.C. for no apparent reason. ( he may be first generation)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 29, 2019 12:13 PM (BoJzR) Somalia is a shithole for a reason. Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 29, 2019 01:18 PM (a72/q) 494
Here is another Rule of Professional Coduct.
A lawyer MUST report another lawyer's violations of the Rules of professional Conduct to the Bar if they KNOW the lawyer violated the Rules. Here the IG reports a lawyer violated the Rules. Has the IG reported Comey to the Bar. See...that's two violations. One for Comey and one for the IG. That's what I don't get! I thought that officers of the court had an obligation in that respect. Well, I'm not a lawyer so obviously it's a comprehension problem on my part. Posted by: Concerned People's Front, Unbanned Chapter at August 29, 2019 01:18 PM (NjJUT) 495
Everyone should tweet Comey - "and yet Trump won!"
all of his coup attempt, lying, leaking Trump won, loser Posted by: artisanal 'ette at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (vEIlU) What exactly did he win? Their actions the past 2-3 years have thwarted much of the agenda. he ran on. Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 29, 2019 01:18 PM (CQ3Qb) 496
The tide is turning in our favor?
WTF are you talking about? Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:17 PM (ltuaO) It's all part of the magical mystery "plan" Trust it. Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:19 PM (U7k5w) Posted by: Ambiguously Gay NASCAR Driver at August 29, 2019 01:19 PM (UFLLM) 498
"The only thing that can be done at this point is for
Trump and his allies to beat his Donk opponents over the head, win the election and pick up and pursue big time changes to the LE/IC/FISC so that this never can happen again. The coup was unsuccessful, the perpetrators have escaped justice, what's most important that changes are made so that a future Deep State cabal can never do this again. Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 29, 2019 12:04 PM (4juur)" ..Sure, this will happen right after I flap my arms and fly to Mars. Wishy-washy talk about preventing repeats means fuckall when these same people are running free framing people, charging them for process crimes, and running guns while trying to libel, censor, deplatform, disarm, and tax the shit out of us. Anyone else see the pics from Boston? That dude trying to organize that silly straight parade got hit by a SWAT team and all of his firearms seized for his trouble. Absent some serious, and numerous, criminal prosecutions before PDT leaves office, we're done. The rule of law is GONE. All that's left is figuring out the p timing for the Day of the Colander. I don't give a fuck if Barr doesn't want to appear political, and I really don't give a fuck about people whining that it's better to keep on pretending things are OK. They are not. Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at August 29, 2019 01:19 PM (eAshZ) 499
If Trump is not reelected, its not just that this all goes away. Its that things go the opposite. People who tried to prosecute get busted. Whistleblowers get arrested. People who supported the idea of Comey being convicted are harassed and arrested. The Deep State will make people pay for challenging them.
To be fair, NASCAR is stupid NASCAR is broken because the people in charge are idiots. They aren't even driving cars out there, let alone stock cars. They're computer handled machines that happen to have wheels. The shell of a real car is placed over this fake thing inside. For God's sake the words STOCK CAR are in the name, and they haven't run stock cars for 40 years. Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 01:20 PM (KZzsI) 500
480 472 Hurricane Dorian is headed toward Florida and everyone's already losing their shit. How much fucking bread do you fucking need?
Posted by: Insomniac at August 29, 2019 01:13 PM (NWiLs) Funny, where it's going to land is a total unknown and it will be days before they have an idea. It may land in GA or SC. I'd like to see it go straight up the Potomac. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:20 PM (lfmil) 501
We don't want to look like left wing assholes.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (p0A33) Because looking good is the highest virtue. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:21 PM (ltuaO) 502
The tide is turning in our favor?
WTF are you talking about? Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:17 PM (ltuaO) The russian shit went nowhere he IG reports are just beginnning The Pereosecutor in CT has not spoken Barr has been pretty damn good That is what I am talking about Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:21 PM (p0A33) 503
The Rules of Professional Conduct allow a lawyer to report to the Bar any behavior of another lawyer that impinges on a lawyers honesty.
This Rule is outside the Duty of Confidentiality I referred to supra. Comey lied and leaked. He should be held to account in his Bar jurisdiction. Someone needs to report him. Bar Rule violation reports are held confidential unless there is a discipline applied and even then that might be private. It's not a clean transparent system but the Bar doesn't want it's discipline process to be used as a sword by warring lawyers. But that Comey behavior needs stopped cold. Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:21 PM (Y274z) Posted by: Ambiguously Gay NASCAR Driver at August 29, 2019 01:21 PM (UFLLM) 505
Hurricane Dorian is headed toward Florida and everyone's already losing their shit. How much fucking bread do you fucking need?
Posted by: Insomniac You need shelf stable food and clean drinking water. Anything subject to humidity and/or requiring refrigeration/freezing will let you down in short order after a hurricane. Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:22 PM (bkkvA) 506
>>> For God's sake the words STOCK CAR are in the name, and they haven't run stock cars for 40 years.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 01:20 PM (KZzsI) That's when I quit watching. A smart man with too much money could bring back STOCK CAR racing and it would be a hit. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:22 PM (lfmil) 507
I believe the comey memos were classified AFTER he sent them to his friend.
Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:22 PM (p0A33) 508
You don't vacation on the moon, earth person. We vacation on your earth. Get it straight, brother.
Posted by: Ignignokt at August 29, 2019 01:14 PM (ppBhU) That's right yo! Posted by: Irr at August 29, 2019 01:22 PM (A994L) Posted by: 98ef79yefgiy #17 at August 29, 2019 01:23 PM (UFLLM) 510
New one.
Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (mezN+) 511
In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (k1TRb) If the state is that weak it's going to blow up anyway. =========== Who is going to go to war to defend the "honor" James Comey? Antifa? Black Lives Matter? NARAL? *spits* He's a Washington bureaucrat. And if you can't try and convict him because Civil war, can you explain to my why the Dems are still all about impeaching Trump with zero concern for same? When you can't get Jay G behind putting Comey in PMITA federal prison, all is lost. Where do I sign up for the communism and the slow agonizing death of government running my entire life? Posted by: simplemind at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (Hc9h3) 512
A smart man with too much money could bring back STOCK CAR racing and it would be a hit.
Remember when auto companies used to test out new ideas on the track? Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (KZzsI) 513
It's all part of the magical mystery "plan" Trust it.
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:19 PM (U7k5w) A lot of conservatives are simply delusional. It's like they can't see what's right in front of them because the implications are obvious and unpleasant. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (ltuaO) 514
Once upon a time you could walk into a dealership and buy a car like the one that just won the race. Street legal and drive it home.
Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (lfmil) 515
I'm not saying that I think we're all effed, but when I hear people talk optimistically about how Trump is going to turn this all around before he gets out of office, the feeling I get is quite similar to when people talk about their sports teams in a "rebuilding period." It's a lot easier for something to break down than it is to rebuild it, and the left has been throwing wrenches into the American government, education system, society, etc. for about 150 years now.
Posted by: joe, living dangerously at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (KUaJL) Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (+y/Ru) 517
People do not want the two-tiered system proven, they want it _stopped_. And the way you stop it is by putting people in jail.
Posted by: cpurick at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (DUdPL) 518
>>I believe the comey memos were classified AFTER he sent them to his friend.
Having them at all was a crime. Posted by: garrett at August 29, 2019 01:25 PM (mezN+) 519
Does this non-indictment give Trump better footing to pardon the poor bastards caught up in Comey/Clinton/Obama's bullshit without looking purely partisan?
Just trying to find a fleck of silver in this giant black turd of a cloud. Posted by: red speck at August 29, 2019 01:25 PM (6Krd7) 520
509
Earth Girls Are Easy! Posted by: 98ef79yefgiy #17 at August 29, 2019 01:23 PM (UFLLM) Dude don't stick your tentacle in that, you know the rule. Posted by: 64ns83mtzpie #24 at August 29, 2019 01:25 PM (k76MH) 521
"511
In all seriousness, I think prosecuting Comey could possibly lead to civil war. Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 29, 2019 12:49 PM (k1TRb)" .. That's not a bug, it's a feature. These people are not building a country I want my descendants living in. Fuck 'em. Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at August 29, 2019 01:25 PM (eAshZ) 522
So are there increases in AIDS six weeks after a hurricane?
Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:26 PM (Y274z) 523
Just let me get my Illudium Q-36 Explosive Space Modulator working again.
Posted by: Marvin the Martian at August 29, 2019 01:26 PM (5v5Zx) 524
The russian shit went nowhere
he IG reports are just beginnning The Pereosecutor in CT has not spoken Barr has been pretty damn good That is what I am talking about Posted by: Nevergiveup at August 29, 2019 01:21 PM (p0A33) The Russia shit completely derailed Trump for years. IG reports mean nothing. Barr hasn't done a damn thing. Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 29, 2019 01:26 PM (ltuaO) 525
#521 Hear! Hear!
Posted by: torabora at August 29, 2019 01:26 PM (Y274z) 526
Once upon a time you could walk into a dealership
and buy a car like the one that just won the race. Street legal and drive it home. Posted by: Billy Ray Gunn at August 29, 2019 01:24 PM (lfmil) Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday. Posted by: Junior Johnson at August 29, 2019 01:28 PM (5v5Zx) 527
Nood
Posted by: rickb223 at August 29, 2019 01:29 PM (bkkvA) 528
517; The people will shut their mouths and kiss ass
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:30 PM (U7k5w) 529
521: It would not start a war. that is just sleazy justification for Horowitz frienu treatment of Comey. Saints zzjotoeitx is protecting the world. BS
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:33 PM (U7k5w) 530
And Comey has been spiking the football on Twitter since this was announced. I don't want to hear ANY MORE goddamn Qanon bullshit. It was a fucking hoax sucking in gullible people from the beginning.
Posted by: Lamont Cranston at August 29, 2019 01:36 PM (3ufaJ) 531
530: Trust the plan...lol
Posted by: CN at August 29, 2019 01:41 PM (U7k5w) 532
Anyone can report an ethics violation. There were dozens of complaints on Kavanaugh made after his nomination. Go ahead and report Comey.
Posted by: Caesar North of the Rubicon at August 29, 2019 01:50 PM (rwyDf) 533
The Deep State runs things and there's nothing we can do about it.
Now, now, there is always a solution to every problem. Posted by: Col Paul Tibbets at August 29, 2019 02:09 PM (MY0O8) 534
"Who will rid me of this troublesome priest?" I guess Hillary! will skate too. Maybe Q is a fraud, I'm losing heart.
Posted by: Tryonisdoomed at August 29, 2019 02:36 PM (Ze99w) 535
Can we please finally just split into two separate countries and be done with it? Because I'd prefer that to having different sets of rules for different "sides" who pretend to be in the same country. I don't mind if they don't want to prosecute perjury. And I don't mind if someone else does. I mind when only one class of people can skirt all the rules, but then ruthlessly enforces them on the other side.
Posted by: Matt at August 29, 2019 02:38 PM (I4Gx+) 536
If you read Schlicter's books you see the US split between the bicoastal lefties and the central normies.
But that won't really work. How would Texas deal with Houston and Austin, for example? Posted by: blaster at August 29, 2019 02:42 PM (9VeU0) 537
Nuke the sites from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...
Posted by: Fred Baumann at August 29, 2019 03:39 PM (AgXWi) 538
Let's send the queers, perverts, commies to Canada and Mexico. They can fix those countries.
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