True Conservative and NeverTrump Model of What a Real Republican Looks Like Mitt Romney: Let's Pass a Carbon Tax to Stop All This Deadly Global Warming

Hey, remember a few weeks back when I noted the new trend in Fake Republicanism, such as the kind practiced by Frank Luntz and David French, was to start talking up carbon taxes and leftist environmentalist dogma?

Well, here's your Third Time Proves the Rule.

From KUTV:

U.S. Sen. Mitt Romney said Monday that he believes climate change is happening and human activity is a significant contributor.
During a speech at the conservative Sutherland Institute in Salt Lake City, the senator acknowledged that the position is rare among his fellow Republicans, but one that younger people seem to respond to more strongly than older conservatives.
"In some respects, (by speaking with newer conservatives), I'll be able to make inroads with some of the young people coming along," he said...
...
Romney discussed the benefits of a carbon tax, a fee based on each ton of carbon dioxide emissions produced by fossil fuels that some major oil companies have adopted.

So bets, please: How long until the majority of NeverTrump gets behind this, all the while claiming that they're sticking with Eternal Conservative Principle while "grifters" adapt their positions to match Trump's?

Thanks to Deep State is Deep Shit.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 06:07 PM

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1 first

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 20, 2019 06:07 PM (JUOKG)

2 Ha -- ha??

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:07 PM (Q3dyo)

3 Poof.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:07 PM (cfSRQ)

4 1
first

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 20, 2019 06:07 PM

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Two firsts in one day...I am the Dude!

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 20, 2019 06:08 PM (JUOKG)

5 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 20, 2019 06:08 PM (arJlL)

6 oh look I make top ten for a change
Go away, Mitt. Go endorse Hillary and be done with it.
you know he's probably doing this because he thinks there money to be made.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:08 PM (ZqRa6)

7 Romney discussed the benefits of a carbon tax, a fee based on each ton
of carbon dioxide emissions produced by fossil fuels that some major oil
companies have adopted.
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The chief benefit will be to force our manufacturing jobs back to China, which is what this really about.

Seriously.

China doesn't and never will care about global warming, and with the Big Lie being exposed about "Free Trade," this is the only play they have left to get us to close our dirty, dirty factories and send all those jobs to China where they belong.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:09 PM (cfSRQ)

8 as usual, no one calls nood.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:09 PM (ZqRa6)

9 2012, it turns out in retrospect, WAS "The End of the World," as the new Agers were predicting at the time.

But not for the reason they thought.

It was the End of the World because we only had two choices for Global Leader: An anti-American socialist sociopath (Obama), vs. a virtue-signaling ultra-cuck (Romney).

Earth was fucked either way, it turned out.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:09 PM (Q3dyo)

10 Did someone mention grift? That's why we chose Mittens back in 2008 to be "our" guy at NR and NRO to win the Prezzy... He's one of the best grifters, after me, of course!

Posted by: Cap'n Joney "the Cuckiest of them all" Goldberg at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (Hg8Ha)

11 "Romney discussed the benefits of a carbon tax, a fee based on each ton
of carbon dioxide emissions produced by fossil fuels that some major oil
companies have adopted."

Did Herr romney happen to mention that the US is the only developed Country that has actually reduced it's CO2 emissions?

Not one single other Country that signed onto the Paris agreement has managed to reduce it's emissions.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (JUOKG)

12 WTF?

When did Republicans embrace taxing, and carbon taxing no less?!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (bDqIh)

13
During a speech at the conservative Sutherland Institute in Salt Lake City, the senator acknowledged that the position is rare among his fellow Republicans, but one that younger people seem to respond to more strongly than older conservatives.

They will astonish you with their ingratitude.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (Wx/+I)

14 Are gas emissions from politicians exempt?

Posted by: Murrican Ninja War Eeyore at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (xptlg)

15 So who's not stoked to vote Romney 2024?

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (ltuaO)

16 The Conservative Case for Every Virtue that Can Be Faked

And Tying Your Dog to the Roof of A Tesla to Save the Planet

Posted by: James OBrien at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (03jfS)

17 Do not fall into the trap of thinking these people believe any of this stuff. They are on the take, period.

Romney is a corporate tool, always has been. Guy has zero scruples about putting people out of work permanently.

He's actually a liberal caricature of a rich Republican obsessed with money.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:11 PM (cfSRQ)

18 no Mitt, wrong again

Posted by: micky at August 20, 2019 06:11 PM (nizGE)

19 Mitt, just change parties. You could be the Presidential candidate for all non-wingnut Dem voters. It's a small group, but no one represents them today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 20, 2019 06:11 PM (u82oZ)

20 Nutty environmentalism a prime reason I switched to Conservatism...... I know a flaming Socialist when I see one, Mittens.....

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (bCLt0)

21 When did Republicans embrace taxing, and carbon taxing no less?!

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (bDqIh)

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When they got paid by Chinese business interests.

Funny how Mitt "sees the light" on this when the ChiComs are in a bad way and facing rising tariffs.

Okay, it's not funny. It's pretty damn twisted.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (cfSRQ)

22 Go away, Mitt...
Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:08 PM (ZqRa6)

If only. God what a bore.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (H8QX8)

23 http://bit.ly/2L0CBMB
*******
Epstein's Former Cell Mate Nicholas Tartaglione is Receiving Threats From Prison Guards to "Shut Up" and "Stop Talking" About Epstein
*******
Willowed

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (BqBId)

24 Where are these New Republicans who think like Old Leftists being minted?

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (sN9mD)

25 Romney also made inroads with young conservatives by stating "I'll never run for president again". This was met with great applause.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (4e+hS)

26 New Taxes! New Taxes! It's amazing how the solution to every leftist issue is New Taxes! New Taxes!

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (Kpl3J)

27 Is this a real Mittens emission or another 'fake but accurate' emission?

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (XkX6f)

28 so comfortable reading along noticing the two jump-tos there just waiting for to punch the post and end up like 18 or 180...

Posted by: micky at August 20, 2019 06:13 PM (nizGE)

29 I went to a frank luntz seminar. He told us that candidates were the most interesting to he first time they run, because they're more direct and spontaneous...then later they all talk the same safe platitudinous shit.

Haha. Hahahahahahahaha...

Posted by: Tu abuela tambien at August 20, 2019 06:13 PM (efMXe)

30 Modern-day Indulgences scheme, nothing more. With Al Gore as its unholy pope.

Posted by: acethepug at August 20, 2019 06:13 PM (zHVcO)

31 memba...you GOP types are Anti-Science because you don't see the oceans rising...and for some reason bad weather, you don't see it as proof of a change in the global climate.

why...it's almost as if Ronald Reagan himself couldn't get nominated in today's GOPS.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:13 PM (JziUy)

32 Does anyone ember what being a Republican used to mean?

What Republican values were?

Not this 'anyone' here amongst the horde.

But the Royal Anyone.

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:13 PM (cqNba)

33 Follow the money..... always a good bet when observing the Gop-e.......

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (bCLt0)

34 If the people who 100% believe in global warming would do things that "help" 100% then they wouldn't need to force 100% of the population to "help" by 0.5%.

Posted by: Moron Robbie - Eight Has No Home Here at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (A8W5E)

35 I wonder if Romney and Hunstman can just buy like an hour of air time to tut-tut the GOP for failing to live up to the standards of the left they've adopted.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (JziUy)

36 You could be the Presidential candidate for all non-wingnut Dem voters. It's a small group, but no one represents them today.

Posted by: NaCly Dog at August 20, 2019 06:11 PM (u82oZ)

I thought the GOP was doing a fair job of representing them until bad Orange Man hijacked the party.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (ltuaO)

37 And to think I voted for this tool in 2012. It makes me want to hate myself.

Posted by: Pete Seria at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (7ZQe3)

38 Mitt sucked as guv of taxachusetts among his many sucked at escapades

Posted by: micky at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (nizGE)

39 For many reasons I am leaving the Republican Party. And I'm running for President! Joe Biden is too old, and all the rest of them are crazy.

Vote for Mitt!

Posted by: Mitt Romney at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (LISuA)

40 Romney needs to challenge Trump so he can taste the joy of losing again, but if he brings down his party he will at least having the joy of restoring the party to its rightful owners, the "we don't mind losing so long we rcontrol the party" crowd.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (ZqRa6)

41

Chips is on. It's the episode with the "Zodiac Twins."

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (wM5Dx)

42 Romney II: This Time It's Ridiculous!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (+y/Ru)

43 I just want to be loved. *sob*

Posted by: Mittens Wombley at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (EgshT)

44 >>"In some respects, (by speaking with newer conservatives), I'll be able to make inroads with some of the young people coming along," he said

Why capture young minds with conservative concepts and values - something a lot of them thirst for - when you can just cater to the eco-fascism that has been drummed into them by school, media, and entertainment industries throughout their childhood?

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (bDqIh)

45 Willowed (of course)
I'm fine everybody. Sorry.. I have it's been the day from hell at work. Will explain it all later.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (dUJdY)

46 Mario Rube too:
Climate change is causing real problems.

Real problems deserve real solutions.

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1163777961734094848

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (LOOYt)

47 27 Is this a real Mittens emission or another 'fake but accurate' emission?
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (XkX6f)

I was hoping for fake, but it looks like this is the Real Thing. Proving that the parody of Mitt Romney really isn't much of a parody at all, more like a dramatization.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (Kpl3J)

48 The Cuck Class exists to do two things; cut corporate tax rates and pretend to oppose open borders while keeping the borders open.

Posted by: El Kabong at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (datdl)

49 37 And to think I voted for this tool in 2012. It makes me want to hate myself.
Posted by: Pete Seria at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (7ZQe3)

Well, him, or Ogabe, so.... but I too feel kind of soiled .

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (bCLt0)

50 24
Where are these New Republicans who think like Old Leftists being minted?

Posted by: Chunk Hunger at August 20, 2019 06:12 PM (sN9mD)

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But they aren't Old Leftists. Those guys wanted to nationalize everything.

The New Hotness is to simply create unaccountable corporate masters who render the government powerless.

See, the First Amendment ties the government, but it protects corporations, who can fire you, wreck your life, doxx you, refuse to sell you things, etc. because you suck.

Just ask David French. He'll tell you that if all the grocery stores refuse to sell you food because your name is on a list of "bad people", that's okay because they are private businesses.

And they can do whatever they want.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (cfSRQ)

51 So will Mitt be attempting to primary Trump? I'll betcha that's his plan.

Posted by: g at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (vO8vG)

52 Sometimes Mitt just has to cry it out and deal with it the way that he sees best.

Posted by: Jimmy - Not a Cuck at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (V+C3K)

53 Is Romney still dragging that poor dog behind his station wagon?

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (CFSlN)

54
I saw Virtue-Signaling Ultra-Cuck open for Ultravox at the Cow Palace in 1982.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (SHtRW)

55 Cunk 2020!

Posted by: Cunk2020 at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (Tnijr)

56 Will I be paying per fart or will there be a sliding scale by volume?

I also assume we will be given credit for killing any one and any thing that emits carbon. Where do I deliver the scalps?

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (jp0Bv)

57 I had a slow-motion very polite "argument" with a "Climate Change" True Believer over the weekend.

Nothing, and I repeat NOTHING, produced even the slightest dent in the armor of his belief system. And I am, to be frank, a devastating debater in real life, as well as being (when I need to be) a very persuasive sneaky "counter-intuitive" underhanded conversation partner, in which I convince people to change their minds while pretending to agree with their original position.

None of that worked on this dude, over TWO DAYS of conversations/debate/arguments. Even though I destroyed every thought/belief/fact he imagined he knew.

These people are unfixable. They have a cult belief system that had reached the core of their souls and cannot be undone. Even if they all were on the verge of freezing to death, huddled in a cave wearing mammoth pelts are the glacier covered the last bit of land as the New Ice Age enveloped the earth, they'd STILL be worried about Global Warming and Carbon Footprints.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (Q3dyo)

58 conservative Sutherland Institute"

Yeah, sure.

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (6qErC)

59 well, it's thunder and lightning today where I live and it wasn't yesterday, so global climate change changed the weather where I live. Still no floods though. weird.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (JziUy)

60 >the senator acknowledged that the position is rare among his fellow Republicans, but one that younger people seem to respond to more strongly than older conservatives.

Maybe because schools have been pushing this scam on kids for the last two decades.

Posted by: Liberty at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (FQAa7)

61 How many times did Romney fly on Epstein's plane?

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (CFSlN)

62 Let's pass a Mitt Romney Tax, because if we do that, history shows we'll get less of him.

I'm sorry I voted for him back in '012, but a ham sandwich would've been better than another four years of TFG, which is what we got anyway. Mitt, please go away and stay gone away, 'k?

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (HaL55)

63 Mittsey looks like a Reverse Mortgage Salesman... that should be a tipoff.....

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (bCLt0)

64 are the glacier = as the glacier

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (Q3dyo)

65 Has Mutt been treated for two brain aneurisms?

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (y7DUB)

66 Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (cfSRQ)

Yup!

The Constitution forbids the Feds from infringing on our rights.

You would think they would take that as a signal that they are supposed to also PROTECT those very same rights.

Sadly, they do not.

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (NgKpN)

67 64 are the glacier = as the glacier
Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (Q3dyo)

This is strange math.....

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (bCLt0)

68 Romney is your basic unprincipled Chamber of Commerce representative and has taken McCain's spot as party contrarian designated to thwart Trumpism. I have become convinced that the major problems that Trump has with his own party is that far too many of them are bought by corporations. Perhaps, they see the whole American project crashing and burning on a large scale in the near future so they are getting it good while they can while making plans to scamper before the ballon goes up or they are simply corrupt uniparty members sharing the spoils.

Thus, the business of Democrats in Congress is amassing power while the business of the Republicans in Congress, by and large, is to let the Dems win but get rich doing so.

FWIW, Large MNC Corporations actually like corrupt nations because it is often cheaper to buy politicians than to comply with laws that the people want or are already on the books that restrict their activities.

The spread of cosmopolitanism in MNC leadership also basically view the common riff raff citizens of countries as serfs to be exploited. This New Class business managers share the same attitudes with its compatriots in government, higher education, and international non-profits.

Not that these folks actually know much history but we have been there before with foreigners brought in as a new class to oppress local populations on behalf of the King. Read the complaints about King John sometime before the Magna Carta for example and John's neglect of ruling his nation in favor of cavorting around with his French nobles seeking to regain his lands in France. To keep their support, he let them oppress the local English.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (hqUZK)

69 WTF?

When did Republicans embrace taxing, and carbon taxing no less?!
Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:10 PM (bDqIh)

Never.

This is Mitt Romney we are talking about.

Posted by: Snopes - totally trustworthy. at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (sMMcg)

70 Fuck you fuck you fuck you mitt

You really are a piece of shit

fuck you fuck you little twit

So fuck you fuck you fuck you mitt

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (9Om/r)

71 61
How many times did Romney fly on Epstein's plane?

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:17 PM (CFSlN)

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Try the plot twist from Advise and Consent. Junior senator from Utah.

Life imitates art?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (cfSRQ)

72 57 I had a slow-motion very polite "argument" with a "Climate Change" True Believer over the weekend.

-----

nothing penetrated the armor. I know, huh?

Go back to ... ignore weather and poor people and whatnot...just ask "so how high are the oceans."

there are two answers. Wind maps show the oceans higher at some places and lower at others...like the tides. but the satellites show minor sea level rise consistent with erosion from land.

Also, from what I saw on Watts up with That, muh flooded miami has dipped 3 feet of sea level due to global wind patterns. so...

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (JziUy)

73 Didn't Romney sell aluminum siding?

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (CFSlN)

74 Tell Mitt the Jerk Store called and they are all outta him.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (Z+IKu)

75 Look where Mitt is moving the Overton window.

We've gone straight from debating whether man-made activity is exclusively to blame for "global warming" to a completely new tax system that would basically regulate any and all economic activity.

Even Democrats are afraid to call for such a system.

I'm amazed I was so fooled by Romney, I thought he was just a decent fellow that sucked at politics. But he's a snake and so is his good buddy Jeff Flake.

Posted by: Blago at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (zuvmW)

76 I'm at the point where taxation in all its forms is about this >< close to me residing in a van down by the river. Fuck you and the donkey you rode in on, Mittens.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (EgshT)

77 Please read my passionate open letter to Mitt Romney, the only sane conservative, to run as a Democrat and save us from Trump!

Posted by: Colonel David French, and my sidekick Xan along for the ride! at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (LISuA)

78 What a dick.

Posted by: mpfs, Waiter, I'll have the Juan de Fuca Plate at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (79p/O)

79 Speaking of young conservatives for climate change activism, jj had a link last week to an article interviewing some of them and they weren't all that impressive. They spouted the usual Lefty talking points but simply wanted less drastic fixes. That's not conservative.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (bDqIh)

80 Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (LOOYt)

We're down to 18 months. It doesn't matter at this point.
Really, I'm so glad our political class is so in-sync. Such unity is heartwarming.

Posted by: WOPR - Ewoks, it's like Chuck Norris went to Build-A-Bear and built a super army at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (J70i0)

81 These people are unfixable.

Posted by:�zombie�at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (Q3dyo)

Call him a racist who wants to shut out the asians and the third world from industrial progress like the first world has achieved.

Logic means nothing to these people.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (ltuaO)

82 I'll worry about detrimental global climate change as a result of human-caused CO2 emissions, the instant the Chinese start spending megabucks to slash their CO2 emissions. And that ain't gonna happen. Because the Chinese aren't as stupid as AOC and all of the other US and EU Greenie-Weenies.

Posted by: Gref at August 20, 2019 06:20 PM (AMIL/)

83 So will Mitt be attempting to primary Trump? I'll betcha that's his plan.
Posted by: g at August 20, 2019 06:15 PM (vO8vG)

My biggest fear is this asshole will run for Pres in 2020 as an Independent, just to pull enough votes from Trump to allow whichever idiot Dem to win.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at August 20, 2019 06:20 PM (dpJfi)

84 completely new tax system that would basically regulate any and all economic activity."

That's the goal

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 20, 2019 06:20 PM (6qErC)

85
Rombley's such an empty suit,

he'd be nothing without his Politician Hair (TM).

I'd like someone to shave him bald and then drawn a buncha dicks on his bare scalp with Blue Marks-A-Lot.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2019 06:20 PM (SHtRW)

86 Man made globull warming is a crock of crap.

One volcanic eruption can cause more CO2 emissions than the entirety of the industrial revolution.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 20, 2019 06:20 PM (9zXwu)

87 Global warming? We don't need no steenking mittens!

Posted by: locomotivebreath1901 at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (4ceyg)

88 I really believe that Environmentalism is just what happens when you don't believe on God.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (dKiJG)

89 The Conservative Case For Being the Left's Bitch

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (AkkRZ)

90 "Fuck you fuck you fuck you mitt
You really are a piece of shit
fuck you fuck you little twit
So fuck you fuck you fuck you mitt"

I like it. It's got a catchy hook and it's easy to dance to. I give it a 9.

Posted by: Cunk2020 at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (Tnijr)

91 41

Chips is on. It's the episode with the "Zodiac Twins."

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 20, 2019 06:14 PM (wM5Dx)

Nothing beats the Leif Garret celebrity charity roller disco 2 part episode. It is perfection.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (jp0Bv)

92 I sure wish that Yellowstone Caldera would start burping and get this stuff over with.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (C1Lsn)

93 there are two answers. Wind maps show the oceans higher at some places and lower at others...like the tides. but the satellites show minor sea level rise consistent with erosion from land.

Also, from what I saw on Watts up with That, muh flooded miami has dipped 3 feet of sea level due to global wind patterns. so...
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:18 PM (JziUy)

Yup, ask 'well, we know there is such a thing as continental drift. What affect does THAT have on Sea levels?'

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (NgKpN)

94 Number of young voters who believe in global warming who will change their vote on this: 0

Remember: This is the guy who barely ran any ads on Spanish language media, lost, then had his team author a report saying he lost because he didn't reach out to Hispanics enough by offering amnesty.

Fuck off, Mitt.
If you're so fucking smart and have all the winning ideas, you and your NeverTrump shitheels should go win an election in your real home: Boston

But you won't because you know you can't.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM (k81AA)

95 He might be background of that Megan yacht girl picture.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM (CFSlN)

96 The major push for carbon taxes comes from the very people that expect to benefit from them by buying and selling through market exchanges. The financial industry has become hooked on arbitrage and computer trading to make their profits as nearly risk free as possible.

Reducing emissions is not the point. Making money from investment decisions driven by an arbitrary useless law or the ancillary government spending derived from the structure is the game of carbon taxes/trading. New class grift is the name of the game.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM (hqUZK)

97 @57. Belief in AGW is an ersatz religion

Like members of other cults, most double down when prophecies fail

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM (+aaIl)

98 If there's a strategy at work, I think it's this:
Republicans are terrified of losing suburban women.Suburban women are totally into Climate Change cult. (I even see very religious, very conservative women on my FB feed repeating Climate Change talking points.)
Therefore, the strategy is to thread a needle. "We believe in climate change, but not the solutions Democrats are offering."

I don't think this will be a productive strategery. Democrats own the Climate Change narrative.

Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM (LOOYt)

99 Conservatism Inc., like the Democrats, but 10% slower.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM (tVQUs)

100 Mitt seems not to be polling well with the Horde.... South of Tulsi Gabbard, and Howard Schultz ( a team I hope the Dems do NOT pick).....

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (bCLt0)

101
Nothing beats the Leif Garret celebrity charity roller disco 2 part episode. It is perfection.

Posted by: Bilwisp

Ever see the Wonder Woman episode with Leif Garrett and Fake Leif Garrett?!?!

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (wM5Dx)

102 So we send a carbon tax to the government. Are we supposed to believe that the government does something magical with all that money to cool the earth?

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (oVJmc)

103 "These people are unfixable"

Did you ask him "at what point in the history of Earth was the climate perfect?".

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (Tnijr)

104 the real pollution from unscrubbed coal is killing the Chinese ... because Mitt's globalists went there to get slaves and escape labor/pollution laws in the civilized world. Middle America lost clean jobs ... WallStreet got very rich ... China got rich ... developed, is very dirty, has slaves ... and a stronger military and silk road. Thanks Mitt ... now you want to destroy America completely ... sheesh.

It does make me wonder how far China has infiltrated America ... to keep that huge trade deficit going so long, even with the lead in toys, the moldy drywall, the injected fish/shrimp, the fentanyl, the gangs ... WallStreet is still their advocate. And so is ChiFiDi, Mitch, others.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (Cus5s)

105 I still want to see the paper or report where the "scientific community" states unequivocally and with real science to back up the assertion that atmospheric CO2 concentrations are the main driver of climate on the earth.

This is all bullshit.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (lxfSg)

106 Dammit, I've misplaced my shocked face.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (yQpMk)

107
My biggest fear is this asshole will run for
Pres in 2020 as an Independent, just to pull enough votes from Trump to
allow whichever idiot Dem to win.

Posted by: Norman Spiny at August 20, 2019 06:20 PM (dpJfi)

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Trump's base and Romney's have zero overlap.

What's more likely is Romney will steal votes from Trump's challenger, since Romney and the Dem will agree more often than not.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (cfSRQ)

108 Next up for Romney: take away all the guns.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (r+sAi)

109 It's warmer than usual north of the equator and it's
colder than usual south of the equator.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (CFSlN)

110 I dislike Mitt Romney with the heat of burning coal.

Posted by: Archer at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (gmo/4)

111 Even Democrats are afraid to call for such a system.

*cough*NewGreenDeal*cough*

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (HaL55)

112 Why doesn't Mittens just switch parties and be done with it?

(By the way, sound scientific theories do not need marketing.)

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (WDnN1)

113 Belief in AGW is an ersatz religion

Like members of other cults, most double down when prophecies fail

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 20, 2019 06:22 PM

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See: Scientology.

Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (JUOKG)

114 72 57 I had a slow-motion very polite "argument" with a "Climate Change" True Believer over the weekend.

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nothing penetrated the armor. I know, huh?

Go back to ... ignore weather and poor people and whatnot...just ask "so how high are the oceans."

there are two answers. Wind maps show the oceans higher at some places and lower at others...like the tides. but the satellites show minor sea level rise consistent with erosion from land.

Also, from what I saw on Watts up with That, muh flooded miami has dipped 3 feet of sea level due to global wind patterns. so...
Posted by: DNC/MEDIA

I uncorked so many game-over facts and explanations and arguments -- including sea levels -- that not one shred of the tapestry of his world view was left intact.

Still -- nada.

I even got him to accept and internalize my statements as true by pretending to be "on his side" the whole time. E.g. "Gee, we're all in agreement here, Climate Change is a terrible threat -- but I'm worried how we can counter the deniers when they point out, correctly, that the Antarctic ice is getting THICKER every years, and that the increase of ice in the Southern Hemisphere is greater than the decrease of Ice in the Northern Hemisphere, so that overall, globally, there's actually MORE ice than before. See how hard it is to argue with these lunatics? They always have some annoying comeback."

Even gambits like that wouldn't budge him.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (Q3dyo)

115 I sure wish that Yellowstone Caldera would start burping and get this stuff over with.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 20, 2019 06:21 PM (C1Lsn)

If the eruption could just target you and nobody else, I would agree.

Posted by: Thar she blows! at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (vqIkG)

116 "In some respects, (by speaking with newer conservatives), I'll be able to make inroads with some of the young people coming along," he said...

No, Mitthead, you won't. You delusional fkwad. Please go away.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (O8WFE)

117 Romney is much like Charlie Brown with the media being Lucy.

Romney will be liked by the media until a real Dem runs against him and they'll pull their football away once again.

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman
at August 20, 2019 06:24 PM (qC1Sy)

118 Wasn't this carbon tax shit shot down in 1993?

These motherfuckers *never stop*, do they?

For fuck's sake, we're beating *all* the Kyoto and Paris, and whatever-the-fuck "protocols" WITHOUT a goddamn "carbon tax" and countries *with* one are getting WORSE.

Posted by: Jeff Weimer at August 20, 2019 06:25 PM (ijEPD)

119 He can join Owlgore and be another has been in the trash heap of ignored politicians.

Posted by: Gmac - Winning never gets old, like me ... But I'm still winning dammit! at August 20, 2019 06:25 PM (qZdIZ)

120 These people are unfixable. They have a cult belief system that had reached the core of their souls and cannot be undone. Even if they all were on the verge of freezing to death, huddled in a cave wearing mammoth pelts are the glacier covered the last bit of land as the New Ice Age enveloped the earth, they'd STILL be worried about Global Warming and Carbon Footprints.
Posted by: zombie at A

have argued with several of these sorts, have you asked if there is anything that could happen that would cause him to change his opinion?

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 20, 2019 06:25 PM (HALdu)

121 Buy those pictures Harry Reid has of Romney.
Whoever owns the pictures owns Romney.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:25 PM (CFSlN)

122 Any Carbon Tax or Whatever they want to call it will be used like the cigarette money that was won by the states, they won't use it to plant trees or take care of parks but for EDUCATION whatever that means or just shuffle it to other groups so that they can turn around and give it back to the DNC.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:25 PM (dKiJG)

123 I have an acquaintance squealing about STILL about Trump's campaign having 150+ "contacts with Russia." So what? Do they think there is some ban on having "contacts" with foreign countries? But I'd like a clear refutation but I'm not finding anything on the internet regardless of search engine.

Posted by: dagny at August 20, 2019 06:25 PM (nRWPy)

124 It really bugs me for anyone to invoke the youth in defense of a policy preference. You know where I've never gone for wisdom? To a young person.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (yQpMk)

125 geez you guys are ignorant. why should China worry about Climate Change? They're on the opposite side of the globe. Guess they didn't teach science where you went to school
oh, ps - I believe the concept of carbon credit trading was invented at Enron, when you know who Mr Nobel in Economics was an advisor

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (ZqRa6)

126 8 as usual, no one calls nood.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:09

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That's because nood never answers his phone.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (Dhht7)

127 Romney is taking over the McCain Wing of the Repub party.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (r+sAi)

128 Odd, demorats run off with TRILLIONS of the treasury, and all those things they insist they are/were going to fix didn't get fixed at all. Social security fund ? With TRILLIONS GONE MISSING AND DEMORATS LIVING EXTREME lavish WEALTHY life styles. Like the Fall of Germany before WWII, they want to continue to devalue our money and ever keep spending it. Will fools buy into it and be clueless FOREVER ?

Posted by: ron n. at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (om5HK)

129 Carbon tax, coal miners won't like that.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (CFSlN)

130 I have an acquaintance squealing about STILL about Trump's campaign having 150+ "contacts with Russia." So what? Do they think there is some ban on having "contacts" with foreign countries? But I'd like a clear refutation but I'm not finding anything on the internet regardless of search engine.
Posted by: dagny at A

meanwhile the democrats are fundraising in mexico

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (HALdu)

131 Why capture young minds with conservative concepts and values -
something a lot of them thirst for - when you can just cater to the
eco-fascism that has been drummed into them by school, media, and
entertainment industries throughout their childhood?
I was watching a kid's show with my son called Story Bots.
The show starts with a kid asking a general question, then the story bots go on a little adventure to find out the answer.
Of course they had a recycling episode.
They end up in a garbage dump which is basically depicted like a Mad Max wasteland. The viewer is told garbage dumps are horrible smelly places that among other things, can pollute our groundwater! Yep, even though all dumps of the last many decades are specifically engineered not to do that, they claimed dumps do.
But that wasn't all. The story bots then visit a recycling center which is beautiful and is run by a whimsical Willy Wonka type person. The factory is all animated like lovely cartoony Wonka devices. At no time did the factory get described like a real recycling plant which is loud, dangerous, and smelly.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (9t0Zz)

132 129 Carbon tax, coal miners won't like that.
Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (CFSlN)

All 12 of them.......

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (bCLt0)

133
It really bugs me for anyone to invoke the youth in
defense of a policy preference. You know where I've never gone for
wisdom? To a young person.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (yQpMk)

*sniff sniff*
Can I get off this boat now. It's cold out here.

Posted by: greta at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (vqIkG)

134 I have an acquaintance squealing about STILL about Trump's campaign having 150+ "contacts with Russia."

Can they describe any of them?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (yQpMk)

135 127 Romney is taking over the McCain Wing of the Repub party.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (r+sAi)

Typical salesman, he saw a void and then filled it.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (CFSlN)

136 re 118: no, the left never stops. They will never give up until they get what they want, or in a few cases stop being stupid heads.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (ZqRa6)

137 81 These people are unfixable.

Posted by:zombie at August 20, 2019 06:16 PM (Q3dyo)

Call him a racist who wants to shut out the asians and the third world from industrial progress like the first world has achieved.

Logic means nothing to these people.
Posted by: Sharrukin2

Oh, I tried the "leftist policies are actually totally racist when you think about it" technique over and over. All I'd get is a smug smile and a shrug and then a counter-lecture feebly and futilely explaining the moral rectitude of White Savior Complex (not his phrase, but you get the idea).

Unfixable.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (Q3dyo)

138 Here we have a man who's ilk was proclaiming not a few years ago that Trump supported Big Government now stating his support for vastly expanding the Government's power.

Some Principles.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (tVQUs)

139 Does Romney think he's Reagan and is going to "come back?"

Posted by: dagny at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (nRWPy)

140 I'm not surprised that Mitt loves this idea.

This is the guy who believes some dude found tablets in the woods in upstate NY them moved to Utah in a covered wagon and started a cult.

I don't trust anyone who doesn't drink coffee. Tea would acceptable also.

Posted by: mpfs, Waiter, I'll have the Juan de Fuca Plate at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (79p/O)

141 It does make me wonder how far China has infiltrated
America ... to keep that huge trade deficit going so long, even with
the lead in toys, the moldy drywall, the injected fish/shrimp, the
fentanyl, the gangs ... WallStreet is still their advocate. And so is
ChiFiDi, Mitch, others.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (Cus5s)

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Pretty far.

That's what is going on here. The old arguments about "free trade" failed so now it's all "SAVE GAIA! EXPORT OUR JOBS!"

Trump could totally destroy them by saying "Sure, and we'll put an extra tax on things imported from high-carbon producing countries!"

When they freak out and sputter, you'll know Trump has them.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:28 PM (cfSRQ)

142 If there's a strategy at work, I think it's this:
Republicans are terrified of losing suburban women.Suburban women are totally into Climate Change cult. (I even see very religious, very conservative women on my FB feed repeating Climate Change talking points.)
Therefore, the strategy is to thread a needle. "We believe in climate change, but not the solutions Democrats are offering."

I don't think this will be a productive strategery. Democrats own the Climate Change narrative.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

________________

I think it's part of it.

I'm sort of in the camp of just playing lip service to "doing something" about climate change but not really doing anything or running against Democrats that want to triple your electric bill.

I honestly don't believe we can do ANYTHING about changing the Earth's temperature, but boy howdy, talk to any Millenial and this silly religion is very important to them.

Posted by: Blago at August 20, 2019 06:28 PM (zuvmW)

143 Can they describe any of them?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (yQpMk)

There are endless Vox, motherjones, msnbc, npr, nyt squealing about it so maybe.

Posted by: dagny at August 20, 2019 06:29 PM (nRWPy)

144 113, try looking up the Millerites. Like Humphrey Bogart in the Caine Mutiny, Mr. Miller figured out the exact date of the end of the world in 1843-4 with mathematical precision and logic. A fair number of his followers having sold their worldly goods etc, were pretty much pissed at his failure at the prediction game but the remnant soldiered on for some years after arguing that the human error caused the biblical chronology that Miller relied upon to give a inaccurate date.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2019 06:29 PM (hqUZK)

145 Carbon tax, coal miners won't like that.
Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (CFSlN)

We'd love to see America implement a Carbon tax.

Posted by: Russia and OPEC at August 20, 2019 06:29 PM (tVQUs)

146 Reducing emissions is not the point. Making money from investment
decisions driven by an arbitrary useless law or the ancillary government
spending derived from the structure is the game of carbon
taxes/trading. New class grift is the name of the game.

Bingo. Trust us, we have experts!

Posted by: dartist at August 20, 2019 06:30 PM (K22Va)

147 I'm so sick of fighting for tax cuts for the assholes. I have problems bringing back 90% tax rates for incomes say over $25M a year. Mittens you want to pay more, have at it pal.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 20, 2019 06:30 PM (FiUMj)

148 I am ashamed I voted for this idiot once

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 06:30 PM (BbGew)

149 109 It's warmer than usual north of the equator and it's
colder than usual south of the equator.
Posted by: Frosty

Nope. Even that's not true.

Because there's no such thing as "usual." Depending on how far back you want to go, BOTH north and south could be considered far far below "normal." The fact that we still have polar ice caps and mountaintop glaciers AT ALL means that we could validly be considered still in a partial Ice Age, compared to most other eras.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:30 PM (Q3dyo)

150 Ever see the Wonder Woman episode with Leif Garrett and Fake Leif Garrett?!?!
Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (wM5Dx)

Sounds very vaguely familiar, so I'll say not in the last thirty years. But it sounds awesome and I do get once per week episodes of the real Lynda Carter shows. I'll have to keep an eye out for it.

Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 20, 2019 06:30 PM (jp0Bv)

151
Oh, I tried the "leftist policies are actually
totally racist when you think about it" technique over and over. All I'd
get is a smug smile and a shrug and then a counter-lecture feebly and
futilely explaining the moral rectitude of White Savior Complex (not his
phrase, but you get the idea).

Unfixable.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (Q3dyo)
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I live in Michigan.

10,000 years ago, the place where my house is located today was under a mile-thick sheet of ice.

Millions of years earlier, northern Michigan was a tropical sea with abundant coral. We have lots of fossils.

Ask your friend what the "real" climate is that we should be getting back to. Is Michigan supposed to be under a block of ice or a sweltering tropical paradise?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:30 PM (cfSRQ)

152 Didn't someone have a good line that if we truly believed in climate change like the alarmists tell us, we would be bombing Chinese power plants to save the world?

Posted by: Blago at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (zuvmW)

153 I had to grab my 3 year old and march out of "happy feet" years ago because it turned into a propaganda piece.

Posted by: dagny at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (nRWPy)

154 Carbon tax, coal miners won't like that.
Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:26 PM (CFSlN)

We'd love to see America implement a Carbon tax.
Posted by: Russia and OPEC at August 20, 2019 06:29 PM (tVQUs)

So would we.

Posted by: China at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (tVQUs)

155 Show me one--just ONE--climate model from ten years ago that predicted today's temperatures.

Notice: If such existed, they'd be front page news, no?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (k81AA)

156 Amazing, isn't it, that the ONLY cure for climate change is America changing itself into a 3rd world nation.

China, Russia, India, no other countries need to do anything at all.

Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (l9m7l)

157 or maybe Romney is still just one of those establishment GOP types who think that the best way to win is sound like the Dems, only less unreasonable.

You know, the people who would have gone along with HillaryCare in 1994.
what am I saying... maybe?

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (ZqRa6)

158 I am ashamed I voted for this idiot once

Me too.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (dUJdY)

159 Mitt is tired of Al Gore making all the money in this scam. He wants in.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (r+sAi)

160 158 I am ashamed I voted for this idiot once

Me too.
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (dUJdY)

We had little choice, which is what I hate...

Posted by: kraken at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (bCLt0)

161 I'm sort of in the camp of just playing lip service
to "doing something" about climate change but not really doing anything
or running against Democrats that want to triple your electric bill.

I honestly don't believe we can do ANYTHING about changing the
Earth's temperature, but boy howdy, talk to any Millenial and this silly
religion is very important to them.

Posted by: Blago at August 20, 2019 06:28 PM (zuvmW)

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No country has reduced as carbon footprint as much as the US in the last few years.

Trump should propose a tariff on good imported from high-carbon countries.

Then watch the Dems and the corporate GOP howl!

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (cfSRQ)

162 "I'm so sick of fighting for tax cuts for the assholes. I have problems bringing back 90% tax rates for incomes say over $25M a year. Mittens you want to pay more, have at it pal."

I think a big part of the appeal of a carbon tax for people like Romney is that it relieves pressure to increase income taxes on the rich.

Posted by: girldog at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (SJiiM)

163 156 Amazing, isn't it, that the ONLY cure for climate change is America changing itself into a 3rd world nation.

China, Russia, India, no other countries need to do anything at all.
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (l9m7l)

The "elites" want to take meat and electricity away from the serfs.

That's all this is and that's all this EVER was.

Posted by: Hikaru (Allie) at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (vmRc0)

164 Romney isn't going to run Ind. to help beat Trump, Williard couldn't get laid in a woman's prison with a handful of pardons

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (BqBId)

165 I am ashamed I voted for this idiot once

Me too.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (dUJdY)

And me
Also McCain and Bush and Bush

Posted by: dagny at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (nRWPy)

166 Doesn't Mittens have a beachfront home in SoCal? Hey Mittens, if the erf is about to be flooded by melting polar caps, wouldn't it make sense to sell that house ASAP before it's 5 feet underwater?

Same question to you Leo DeCaprio, Katy Perry, Oprah and Robert Deniro......

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (FiUMj)

167 Real conservatives support Romney. You guys bet on the wrong racist.

Posted by: (((AG Conservative))) at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (XhrWu)

168 so romney is in favor of high taxes? BTW, eco-taxes certainly contribute to the weak economy in Europe.

Posted by: wferrin at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (UjYaa)

169 "I am ashamed I voted for this idiot once
Me too."

We did what we had to. The alternative was the dogeater.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (Tnijr)

170 How about stick a plug in your ass Mitt?

Deep down, these people are all petty despots who need a good throat punch.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (wclv0)

171 If I could take back two things in my life, one would be my vote for this douche back in 2012 and the other would be that $1000 I laid down on the Browns to win it all back in '81.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (EgshT)

172 [Y]ounger people seem to respond to more strongly than older conservatives.

"Younger" - as in NEA-brainwashed public-school schlock products.

Posted by: One-eyed cat peepin' in the seafood store at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (/sTHK)

173 164 Romney isn't going to run Ind. to help beat Trump, Williard couldn't get laid in a woman's prison with a handful of pardons
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (BqBId)

Binders full of pardons, you mean.

Posted by: Hikaru (Allie) at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (vmRc0)

174 It does make me wonder how far China has infiltrated America ... to keep that huge trade deficit going so long,
Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2019 06:23 PM (Cus5s)

I realize this will be unpopular, but hell, I've never cared for popularity contests: why is a trade deficit necessarily bad?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (WDnN1)

175 dagney - ask if Hillary selling 30% of the US Uranium to Russia was ok, and Bill's $500,000 1 hr speech in Moscow was fine, Biden's sons cleaning out China of cash is kosher.

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (BbGew)

176 actually, it's weird, global warming caused big thunderstorms here...which is bad. also, it caused the temps to drop 25 degrees. which is ... good?

either way, no noticeable effect on sea level

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:35 PM (JziUy)

177 Trump should propose a tariff on good imported from high-carbon countries.

Then watch the Dems and the corporate GOP howl!
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:33 PM (cfSRQ)

___

That's actually an awesome idea. A 20% tarriff on any country that doesn't have a carbon footprint on par with the
US.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 20, 2019 06:35 PM (FiUMj)

178
"In some respects, (by speaking with newer conservatives), I'll be able to make inroads with some of the young people coming along," he said...

In other words, Mitt for President 2020!

Which isn't surprising. The worthless fucker has been essentially running for President for almost 30 years if not longer.

At some point, you have to accept the fact that no one wants you in the Oval Office.

Posted by: IllTemperedCur at August 20, 2019 06:35 PM (ur8yz)

179 155
Show me one--just ONE--climate model from ten years ago that predicted today's temperatures.

Notice: If such existed, they'd be front page news, no?

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 20, 2019 06:31 PM (k81AA)

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There were two.

Out of fifty.

The mainstream press tried to hype it until people pointed out that by their own admission, 92 percent of their climate predictions failed completely.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:35 PM (cfSRQ)

180 171 If I could take back two things in my life, one would be my vote for this douche back in 2012 and the other would be that $1000 I laid down on the Browns to win it all back in '81.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (EgshT)

RED RIGHT 88

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 20, 2019 06:35 PM (WDnN1)

181 I think its healthy not to pave over every last inch of the earth, and more aesthetically pleasing to preserve local patches of wild land. And, I believe its part of being an ethical creature and also good steward to let some of Gods creatures roam around in the world as He created it.

Chasing carbon around to give the government more control over our lives and redistribute wealth no so much.

Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 20, 2019 06:36 PM (koNhm)

182 If I ever get a time machine I'm going back to stop myself from voting for Mitt.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 20, 2019 06:36 PM (wclv0)

183
I am ashamed I voted for this idiot once

Me too.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (dUJdY)

Eh. My vote was a vote against the other guy.

Posted by: Archer at August 20, 2019 06:36 PM (gmo/4)

184 Trying to calculate the "Average Temperature" of the world is like trying to calculate the average phone number in the phone book, and just as useful.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:36 PM (Kpl3J)

185 In the 90s, I remember the predictions were FL would be under water by 2010.

How'd that work out fucktards?

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 20, 2019 06:36 PM (FiUMj)

186 by creating a separate religion of global warming, the maoist left is really just otherizing us for future pogroms. See how zombie can't even talk to these people. They probably feel we're dense too.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (JziUy)

187 "Logic means nothing to these people.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:19 PM (ltuaO)"
Probably didn't sway the Carthaginians much either, but Rome managed to solve the problem regardless.

Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (eAshZ)

188 The hell with mutt rombley. I want my pardon!

Posted by: Rod Blagojevich's Hair Piece at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (vqIkG)

189 I won't know what to think until Hugh Hewitt speaks.

Posted by: Embarrassing Stain at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (GXhXg)

190 I know the alternative was Obumbles but I still feel dirty voting for that asshole.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (dUJdY)

191

Aren't we way overdue for Warren Buffet to say something really stupid and false?

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (wM5Dx)

192 Can't trust the Mormons, they're worse than the Somali importing Lutherans.

The Catholics only screw their own kids. The Mormons and Lutherans screw all of America.

Posted by: Regular joe at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (6/uwW)

193 actually, if you look at the temp timeline going back a few thousand years, there is a cycle of around 1000 years with warming for a few hundred years and then cooling for a few hundred years.
some have said the warming period could already be over for us, at least for a few decades, but if the warming continues, even if only like .2 degrees per decade, the left's plans to 'fight' climate change will almost certainly fail, giving them the ability to holler "see?? we didn't go far enough!! More carbon tax!" No different than when gun control fails to reduce crime, they demand more gun control.

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (ZqRa6)

194 This asshole probably did hogtie his dog to the roof.

Posted by: Marcus T at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (wclv0)

195 There were two.

Out of fifty.

The mainstream press tried to hype it until people pointed out that by their own admission, 92 percent of their climate predictions failed completely.
Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:35 PM (cfSRQ)

And even that is like asking you or I to predict the DJIA average 10 years from now. And we get 50 chances, and only 2 of them have got to be close, and it doesn't matter which 2. I'm pretty sure I could win that bet, and I'm pretty sure you could too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (Kpl3J)

196 Eh. My vote was a vote against the other guy.

THIS

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (AkkRZ)

197 >>I honestly don't believe we can do ANYTHING about changing the
Earth's temperature, but boy howdy, talk to any Millenial and this silly
religion is very important to them.

Yeah, I don't doubt that the earth goes through warming and cooling cycles. I very much doubt the data sets/models the activists use to prove their climate Armageddon predictions and that we have the power to change the climate.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (bDqIh)

198 RED RIGHT 88

yep...never been colder in my entire life

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (EgshT)

199 China just built a super train bridge that will carry coal to their power plants.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:39 PM (dKiJG)

200 Oh, I tried the "leftist policies are actually totally racist when you think about it" technique over and over.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (Q3dyo)

You are still trying to argue the facts.

Call HIM a racist and Express shock at his vulgar bigotry and his callous disregard for those less fortunate than himself.

Farming the point out to a third party leftist policy doesn't have much impact.

HE is a bad person for what he believes.

It is what the left does all the time and they do it because it would work on them.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (ltuaO)

201 198 RED RIGHT 88--------------------------------------------

..

Omaha!

Posted by: Peyton Manning at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (MAstk)

202 Mitt Romney and John McCain walk into a bar...

Posted by: Marcus T at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (wclv0)

203 And even that is like asking you or I to predict the
DJIA average 10 years from now. And we get 50 chances, and only 2 of
them have got to be close, and it doesn't matter which 2. I'm pretty
sure I could win that bet, and I'm pretty sure you could too.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:38 PM (Kpl3J)

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Scott Adams said he would bet any amount of money that he could predict the exact temperature on a given day five years from now...

...if you give him 50 guesses.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (cfSRQ)

204 TIME OUT!!!

Posted by: Andy Reid at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (EgshT)

205 125 geez you guys are ignorant. why should China worry about Climate Change? They're on the opposite side of the globe. Guess they didn't teach science where you went to school

The ONLY way to stop global warming, or climate change, or whatever they call it tomorrow, is the complete and absolutely thorough dismantling of the United States economy. And if it means this country plunges into extreme poverty that makes Venezuela or North Korea look good, so be it.

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (WDnN1)

206 This is the guy who believes some dude found tablets in the woods in
upstate NY them moved to Utah in a covered wagon and started a cult.

There are several Mormon regulars. Can we keep the snide anti-Mormon comments to a minimum please.

Also, Joseph Smith was killed in Missouri by a mob. He didn't go to Utah in a covered wagon.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (9t0Zz)

207 I realize this will be unpopular, but hell, I've never cared for popularity contests: why is a trade deficit necessarily bad?

Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33 at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (WDnN1)

You are exporting the wealth generated by an economy.

Within reason? not a bad thing, but when you trade deficit reaches the level of your GDP growth? You ain't growing.

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (NgKpN)

208 Liawatha/Rombley 2020!

Posted by: Bosk at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (9m9TT)

209 China just built a super train bridge that will carry coal to their power plants.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:39 PM (dKiJG)

And that bridge was constructed from 6 tons of used condoms encased in plaster of paris.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (SHtRW)

210 This A$$hat gave us four more years of Obama and now he wants to cripple the economy for something that will not make a difference to the global climate. It must hurt to be that stupid but maybe not. Go Trump MAGA!

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (BNZkU)

211 >>>"We believe in climate change, but not the solutions Democrats are offering."
----------------------------------------
I don't think this will be a productive strategery. Democrats own the Climate Change narrative.
Posted by: Victor Tango Kilo

Of course we believe in climate change. Look at the ancient forests in the arctic that are being exposed by melting ice. And the Viking dairy farms in Greenland.

We will have more arable land, more food, more wealth, and more health than ever before.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (CFSlN)

212 Mario Rube too:
Climate change is causing real problems.

Real problems deserve real solutions.

https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1163777961734094848

I beg one of you that still has a twitter account to go and post the external factor quote over on Mario's page.

"If only there were some... external factor that could account for the variations in global temperature. Such a hypothetical external factor would have to be very large, though -- on the order of magnitude of our own Sun."

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:42 PM (yQpMk)

213 204 TIME OUT!!!
Posted by: Andy Reid at August 20, 2019 06:40 PM (EgshT),

Sir, we're all outta time outs!

Posted by: Reid's assistant coach at August 20, 2019 06:42 PM (MAstk)

214 if the planet is warming why aren't all the record highs within the last 3 years?

Posted by: x at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (nFwvY)

215 Trade deficits are only bad once you create high unemployment. After that, you're country doesn't have the purchasing power to keep the trade deficit. Problem in the US is that we can just print high quality money that keeps it afloat... until the day it doesn't.

but trade deficits are not bad in and of themselves. Importing cheap goods helps if you have a good service economy. But we can't all just give each other heart bypasses.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (r+sAi)

216 Probably didn't sway the Carthaginians much either, but Rome managed to solve the problem regardless.

Posted by: lurker (the other one... spelled with a P) at August 20, 2019 06:37 PM (eAshZ)

That's the ticket.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (ltuaO)

217 Don't forget about INDIA.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (dKiJG)

218 I remember arguing on this site back in 2012 that Romney was the conservative alternative to the Chocolate Messiah. I am deeply ashamed.

Posted by: Caliban at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (QE8X6)

219 AH Lloyd's idea is the better policy option as it allocates the costs of rising atmospheric carbon on those nations that are expanding their carbon footprint and making those goods pay for government spending to ameliorate the supposed damage.

Or you can go all in on Thorium type or pebble type reactors that are very resistant to meltdown (if it can happen at all) and the waste products cannot be readily converted into bomb material. Nuclear energy is pretty much best power source if you want to lessen carbon footprints but that would involve the messy thing of actually building these in the U.S. and allowing construction and manufacturing jobs to accrue to the benefit of U.S. citizens.

Even nuclear waste can be pretty much recycled into very small area if you reprocess the fuel as the French have been doing for decades.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (hqUZK)

220 Did Trump really call Jews disloyal?

WTF gets into the guy? He's got the high ground on this issue and then can't shut up and makes himself the focus again instead of the toxic "squad."

Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (Fyouh)

221 You are exporting the wealth generated by an economy.

I have often wondered if that is still true in a world where you aren't paying in specie. What do the foreigners do with our invented fiat money? Don't they eventually have to buy something with it?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (yQpMk)

222 "I realize this will be unpopular, but hell, I've never cared for popularity contests: why is a trade deficit necessarily bad?"Posted by: Catch Thirty-Thr33

Even Greenspan for many early years of Big Deficits would say it did not matter, it would all balance in the end, we will build up China and they will become big consumers ... then in 2004 ? or so he testified he found a flaw in his theories ... heh ... but the easy money free trade policies continues.

Here is the best link on it I have ... it is not just a "trade" deficit, China comes in a conquers us by buying our property, buying our politicians. It is not trade, they are conquering.

https://tinyurl.com/y85x7gfw

Posted by: illiniwek at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (Cus5s)

223 Listen to these muppets. Imagine where we'd be without Trump. We'd be deader than dead.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (H8QX8)

224 171 If I could take back two things in my life, one would be my vote for this douche back in 2012 and the other would be that $1000 I laid down on the Browns to win it all back in '81.
Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 20, 2019 06:34 PM (EgshT)

That vote for Juan McCain weighs heavily too, slightly mitigated by the fact that in my mind I really voted for Palin.

Posted by: Marybeth at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (SJp+V)

225 Don't forget about INDIA.

Dot or feather?

Posted by: Little Lupe at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (EgshT)

226 I always thought the sun had a little to do with the temperature on earth. Taxes on sun spots are next!

Posted by: dartist at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (K22Va)

227 Mitt is tired of Al Gore making all the money in this scam. He wants in.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (r+sAi)

Yup.....I am tired of Al Gore raking in the dough from this scam too. I want my cut.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (Z+IKu)

228 218 I remember arguing on this site back in 2012 that Romney was the conservative alternative to the Chocolate Messiah. I am deeply ashamed.

Posted by: Caliban at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (QE8X6)

Don't feel bad. Compared to O'ClusterCommie he was conservative.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (CFSlN)

229 The evidence is overwhelming that Utah is full of people who appreciate a good paper asshole. Please stop telling me about Teh West. You paper asshole lovers are welcome to it.

Posted by: Asscheeks of Saturn at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (Jj+59)

230 Willard is such a big fat sellout pussy. He is a perfect fit with the cuckcons.

Posted by: Fritz at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (oQ0/Q)

231 "There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that all of Mitt Romney's children's DNA test results showed Jake Tapper to be their biological father. Even #FakeNews site The Babylon Bee hasn't gone there ... yet" -- snopes.com

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (k1+vk)

232 We should just buy Greenland, and then we have paid for a national carbon tax. Done.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (r+sAi)

233 209 China just built a super train bridge that will carry coal to their power plants.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:39 PM (dKiJG)

And that bridge was constructed from 6 tons of used condoms encased in plaster of paris.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (SHtRW)

Knowing China it won't last 5 years before it's falling apart, like the Super Dam they built with watered down concrete.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (dKiJG)

234 if the planet is warming why aren't all the record highs within the last 3 years?
Posted by: x at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (nFwvY)

Why, just the other day I saw a breathless, blaring headline "July 2019 Hottest Evar!"

Which is funny because wife and I took a road trip in mid-July into the mountains and saw 6"+ of freshly fallen snow at Cameron Pass and Rabbit Ears Pass. And temperatures in the low- to mid-50s in Craig, Meeker, Rifle and Eagle.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (xPJvm)

235
Also, Joseph Smith was killed in Missouri by a mob. He didn't go to Utah in a covered wagon.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (9t0Zz)

---
He also started the cult out east. One of his followers set up shop in Michigan and had a decent gig going on until people complained about the harems or whatever.

James Strang, that was it. Shot to death in full view of the crew of the USS Michigan, who passively observed the whole thing.

Killers were fined a buck twenty-five.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (cfSRQ)

236 I am going out, but remember the most basic foundation of the leftist's belief: "This time is different! This time it will work!"

or is that two foundations?

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (ZqRa6)

237 Mitt is tired of Al Gore making all the money in this scam. He wants in.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:32 PM (r+sAi)

Yup.....I am tired of Al Gore raking in the dough from this scam too. I want my cut.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2019 06:44 PM (Z+IKu)

Maybe.

My first thought is that Mitt hopes it is real and we'll all back to living like it's the dark ages, but he'll be the one in a castle on the hill.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (1g7ch)

238 Ha CBS "News" says Trump would be a sucker if the US bought Greenland because it is melting away.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (Tnijr)

239 NeverTrumps caving on climate change hysteria is essentially pre-ordained.

Lefties have made believing in their doomsday cult a prerequisite for acceptance in polite society and if you think NeverTrumps can stand that sort of social pressure from Lefties, then you've never met a NeverTrump.

Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (dYe5S)

240 WTF gets into the guy?
Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (Fyouh)

The presidency, for one thing.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (H8QX8)

241 229 Should sell that hash to JJ

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (BbGew)

242 only state where Williard could get elected was the State of Mormons ooooops Utah

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (BqBId)

243 I am the surgeon who performed two surgeries to re-inflate Mitt's balls, and I gotta say, they are as empty as they ever were. Sorry, nothing I could do about it.

Posted by: Dr. ballsy at August 20, 2019 06:47 PM (LWu6U)

244 freaked - and miss out on unlimited fresh water

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 06:47 PM (BbGew)

245 Oh, look at the troll.

but it does give an opportunity to point out that what Trump actually said was that Jews who support those who want to destroy Israel and kill all Jews are betraying their people, and their faith. Which, in point of fact, is the truth.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (Kpl3J)

246 200 Oh, I tried the "leftist policies are actually totally racist when you think about it" technique over and over.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:27 PM (Q3dyo)

You are still trying to argue the facts.

Call HIM a racist and Express shock at his vulgar bigotry and his callous disregard for those less fortunate than himself.

Farming the point out to a third party leftist policy doesn't have much impact.

HE is a bad person for what he believes.

It is what the left does all the time and they do it because it would work on them.
Posted by: Sharrukin2

Well yes of course I COULD destroy him personally like that and "win" the argument. But this was in a social situation where I had to be nice and calm and non-conrontational.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (Q3dyo)

247 228 218 I remember arguing on this site back in 2012 that Romney was the conservative alternative to the Chocolate Messiah. I am deeply ashamed.

Posted by: Caliban at August 20, 2019 06:43 PM (QE8X6)

Don't feel bad. Compared to O'ClusterCommie he was conservative.
Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (CFSlN)

I voted for Kasich for years so you don't have any shame.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (dKiJG)

248 Global warming is complete Bullshit, Just an excuse to limit human growth and prosperity.

Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (0OmEj)

249
The globe is warming!
But it has nothing to do with the Sun.
But not Indians or Chinese.
And not Europeans.
Certainly not Democrats.
Definitely not NeverTrumpers.
Trump voters are destroying the planet!!

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (Wx/+I)

250 Did Trump really call Jews disloyal?

He said, in the context of the "Squad" morons words and actions, "I think Jewish people that vote for a Democrat -- I think it shows either a total lack of knowledge or great disloyalty"
Disloyalty to what exactly? Maybe their fellow Jews? Given how anti-semetic the left is, I don't think that's a terribly harsh criticism to say Jews need to make themselves aware of people like Omar and Tlaib and speak out against their rampant anti-Semitism.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (9t0Zz)

251 If you don't want a carbon tax (for any reason) you're a Nazi white supremacist.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (xSo9G)

252 Global warming is complete Bullshit, Just an excuse to limit human growth and prosperity.

Aye. Even Girl928 believes in it. I just want to shake her and ask Do you even science?!?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (yQpMk)

253 Mitt is positioning himself for 2024, 0r 8, or 2016,...

There is no politician worse than a loser trying again for the second time.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (LWu6U)

254 This all falls in line with the Seventh Sign of the Apocalypse...which, of course, is another Charlie's Angels Reboot. There is some wiggle room, however. They didn't cast transgenders in the roles.

Posted by: Orson at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (ddmQc)

255 but it does give an opportunity to point out that what Trump actually said was that Jews who support those who want to destroy Israel and kill all Jews are betraying their people, and their faith. Which, in point of fact, is the truth.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (Kpl3J)
--------------------------------------------------------------------

Nonsense.

Any statement with Jews and "loyalty" is going to get you in trouble. Trump will be knee-deep in this shit tomorrow because of that idiotic remark.

Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Fyouh)

256 On the other hand, Mitt and Ann sure do look great on a jet ski.

Posted by: Caliban at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (QE8X6)

257 Why are all of you talking about my brain? I dont understand.

Posted by: Joe Biden at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Zqun5)

258 231 "There is absolutely no truth to the rumor that all of Mitt Romney's children's DNA test results showed Jake Tapper to be their biological father. Even #FakeNews site The Babylon Bee hasn't gone there ... yet" -- snopes.com

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 20, 2019 06:45 PM (k1+vk)

It is not Mrs. Romney's fault that her husband is a schmuck. Pick on Romney not his wife.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (CFSlN)

259
Each one of these jokers that I supported in the face of Leftist ridicule -- Bush I, Bush II, McCain, Romney -- has stabbed me in the back, and become an object of my ridicule. Actually, the Left has nicer things to say about them these days than I ever will.

In terms of visceral loathing, the plastic mannequin Romney leads the pack. What a dick.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (1unwk)

260 SF Airport bans plastic water bottles but not other drinks in plastic bottles.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Tnijr)

261 It's been obvious since the Russia! Russia! Russia! campaign fell apart that Trump's oppenents only have 2 other go-to issues: Racist! Racist! Racist! And "The Earth is Burning up! WE'RE ALL GOING DO DIE!!! BECAUSE ORANGE MAN BAD!!!"

you can tell that MSM are devoting lots of time to those two stories.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (Kpl3J)

262 "In some respects, (by speaking with newer conservatives), I'll be able to make inroads with some of the young people coming along," he said...

So, you'll convince the ignorant, foolish, and stupid to follow you. You are such an inspiration, sir.

Your peers and those for whom you posed for decades, however, will continue to find you detached, conniving, and irrelevant.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (6eEQ+)

263 I am the surgeon who performed two surgeries to re-inflate Mitt's balls, and I gotta say, they are as empty as they ever were. Sorry, nothing I could do about it.
Posted by: Dr. ballsy
------

Did you try Fix-a-Flat?

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (xSo9G)

264 Well yes of course I COULD destroy him personally
like that and "win" the argument. But this was in a social situation
where I had to be nice and calm and non-conrontational.

Posted by: zombie at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (Q3dyo)

---
You can't win an emotional argument with logic.

Listen more carefully to the emotions expressed. What are they?

This is how you need to direct your arguments.

I've found simply questioning people without judgement helps them see some of the contradictions in their own beliefs. They end up arguing with themselves.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (cfSRQ)

265 ut remember the most basic foundation of the leftist's belief: "This time is different! This time it will work!"

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 20, 2019 06:46 PM (ZqRa6)

They don't care if it works. Never did. Whether anything works is irrelevant. All that matters is that they control it and you don't.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (H8QX8)

266 Well yes of course I COULD destroy him personally like that and "win" the argument. But this was in a social situation where I had to be nice and calm and non-conrontational.

Posted by:�zombie�at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (Q3dyo)

I hear you and have made the same choice. Liberal sister.

If you aren't willing to engage in personal destruction then don't bother. They have a shield of Invincible Ignorance.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (ltuaO)

267 Mitt should change his name to Jabroni.

Jabroni Romney.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (Z+IKu)

268 248 Global warming is complete Bullshit, Just an excuse to limit human growth and prosperity.
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 20, 2019 06:48 PM (0OmEj)

Its not even about that. Its about Power.

Its about making people scared enough to give away their own Freedom, for supposed safety.

Posted by: Don QQQ... at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (NgKpN)

269
Show me one--just ONE--climate model from ten years ago that predicted today's temperatures.

Yeah but climate isn't the same as weather, whatever the hell that is supposed to mean.

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2019 06:51 PM (aKsyK)

270 Don't pay any attention to the troll. His mom took away his remote.

Posted by: Caliban at August 20, 2019 06:52 PM (QE8X6)

271 I have always said that it was good that Mittens lost the POTUS race in 2012 because he would have been worse than Obama. Why? Because this True Conservatism would have come out then and not 8 years later.

Posted by: Startrek Analogy Speaking Alien at August 20, 2019 06:52 PM (pw+jk)

272
What did the Left use to say about this dick? Magic underwear, takes apart companies and throws thousands out of work, gives widows cancer, etc.

I endorse all of that now.

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 20, 2019 06:52 PM (1unwk)

273 On the other hand, Mitt and Ann sure do look great on a jet ski.
Posted by: Caliban
---

Like John Kerry and Teresa, at Wendy's.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (xSo9G)

274 We need better trolls.

Maybe we can outsource to Canada?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (cfSRQ)

275 Aye. Even Girl928 believes in it. I just want to shake her and ask Do you even science?!?

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (yQpMk)

It is getting warmer but that's OK.
It's part of the cycle. At one time it was so warm in Britain they were producing fine wine from their own vineyards.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (CFSlN)

276 I remember the snowy summer days in Texas back in the 1960's.

But we just had to drive around in our 9MPG pickups and those days are gone.

Posted by: x at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (nFwvY)

277 "If you aren't willing to engage in personal destruction then don't bother. They have a shield of Invincible Ignorance."

There is no point in arguing. It's like showing a chicken a card trick.

Posted by: freaked at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (Tnijr)

278 only have 2 other go-to issues: Racist! Racist! Racist! And "The Earth is Burning up! WE'RE ALL GOING DO DIE!!! BECAUSE ORANGE MAN BAD!!!" --------------------------------------------

..

Ahem

Posted by: Recession at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (MAstk)

279 Mitt is positioning himself for 2024, 0r 8, or 2016,...

There is no politician worse than a loser trying again for the second time.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at August 20, 2019 06:49 PM (LWu6U)

Kinda like ex smokers.

Posted by: Berserker-Dragonheads Division at August 20, 2019 06:53 PM (9Om/r)

280 Taxes. The cause and solution to all the world's problems.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 20, 2019 06:54 PM (2DOZq)

281 I remember arguing on this site back in 2012 that Romney was the conservative alternative to the Chocolate Messiah. I am deeply ashamed.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Your shame should be anger. Deep, heat of a thousand suns anger. We've been manipulated and sold down the river for decades by people like Mittens, Ryan and McStain.

Fuck the GOP in general and those asshats in particular.

Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead at August 20, 2019 06:54 PM (BrRAn)

282 267
Mitt should change his name to Jabroni.

Or Jablowme

Posted by: dartist at August 20, 2019 06:54 PM (K22Va)

283
I remember when carbon credits were a new idea... it was all the rage when I was a college kid.

I even fell for it, at first.

I brought the idea to my dad, and he disabused me of the notion right away, when he pointed out the impossibility of it working to reduce anything besides profits for American firms.

That America was already the cleanest industrial power. That these "offsets" would amount to nothing more than a tax on small business and MSEs who didn't have the capital to meet the above-and-beyond threshold that large corporations could afford.

And that Chinese, Indian, and Mexican companies would sign on to an agreement of any kind, in the full expectation that we'd hold ourselves to account while letting rampant polluters run roughshod.

It was bullshit meant to enrich Al Gore then, and it's bullshit meant to enrich people like him now.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2019 06:54 PM (eGEVz)

284 Any statement with Jews and "loyalty" is going to get you in trouble. Trump will be knee-deep in this shit tomorrow because of that idiotic remark.

Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Fyouh)

Who cares?

Trump is a white supremacist Russian agent who raped his wife and wants to exterminate Hispanics.

This is what we call Thursday.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 06:54 PM (ltuaO)

285 I have discovered music by the composer Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina, that lifts the soul and which I am certain is what I will hear if I am lucky enough to land in Heaven some day.

Renaissance polyphony.

Just Google "Palestrina", hit any video link, turn it up, and close your eyes.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (S6rpg)

286 James Strang, that was it.

Strangites aren't LDS.

He also started the cult out east.

If you say so. I honestly never know what definition people are using to call the LDS Church a cult. Usually it degenerates into a mental gymnastics exercise to somehow exclude established churches and only include us. That and accusations that don't fit the Church as I know it.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (9t0Zz)

287 259
Each one of these jokers that I supported in the face of Leftist ridicule -- Bush I, Bush II, McCain, Romney -- has stabbed me in the back, and become an object of my ridicule. Actually, the Left has nicer things to say about them these days than I ever will.

In terms of visceral loathing, the plastic mannequin Romney leads the pack. What a dick.
Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (1unwk)

And Yet I was told Trump wouldn't follow thru with his promises etc and yet he's actually trying really trying to to follow through. I really feel other Presidents would have folded on Brett Kavenhaugh

I am ashamed that I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries.

Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (dKiJG)

288 I'm ashamed to my core that I ever voted for him.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (GbPPJ)

289
The failure of all mankind's efforts to control the environment will be used as justification for even more Draconian measures.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (Wx/+I)

290 200 Psychology says that your approach works for about 80 percent of the population. It won't affect ideologues that are against you nor the ideologues that support your position.

About 80 to 85 percent of the population only thinks of policies in terms of rhetoric rather than actually being able to analyze facts using a logical framework. Thus, all policies that affect them will be rationalized as good or bad as far as it affect them--if it does not affect them directly, they will parrot whatever rhetoric has the upper hand in keeping their social status. They may also virtue signal in order to stay in the pack and keep their thoughts to themselves.

Ideologues have definite ideas about how the facts related to their internal model of how the world works. The problem is that if you begin with a bad foundation of assumptions, then the facts are interpreted in such a way to make your assumptions true or dismissed as not facts.

Only a relatively small percent of the population actually uses facts and logical reasoning on a continuing basis and adjusts their assumptions and framework as experience and history tells them they should. The personality type of empirical philosophers tends to indicate that the wise ones are aware we live in clown world and try to make the adjustments demanded by polite society to get by. See Voltaire's Candide for example. Or they simply become either withdrawn as hermits yelling at people to get off their lawns or they break down as did Cassandra before Troy fell.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2019 06:56 PM (hqUZK)

291 Meanwhile, Soros and the Koch brothers are teaming up in pursuit of online censorship.

True colors shining through all over the place.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:56 PM (bDqIh)

292
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson at August 20, 2019 06:56 PM (KCxzN)

293 Link: https://tinyurl.com/y573l43e

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:56 PM (bDqIh)

294 Any statement with Jews and "loyalty" is going to get you in trouble. Trump will be knee-deep in this shit tomorrow because of that idiotic remark.
Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Fyouh)

All jews today know that the Jews who support the BDS crowd are the same as the Kapo's of WW2. The Jews who sold out other jews to the nazis, in hopes of a better deal for themselves. And Ilahn Omar and Rancido Tlaib have dragged the entire Democrat Party into the BDS sandbox with them.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:57 PM (Kpl3J)

295

Dog on the roof
Dog on the roof
Lookin' like a fool with yo dog on the roof
With yo gold in yo mouth

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 20, 2019 06:57 PM (aKsyK)

296 I've been proud to say I have never fallen for a scam in my life. Used to be since I now realize I was scammed out of some political donations. ( I could be kind to myself and say I didn't donate to Romney but donated against Obama. Nah still scammed)

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 20, 2019 06:57 PM (2DOZq)

297 I despised Romney from the start. I could see in 2008 he was trying to pull off the "sunny Reagan optimism" schtick. But there was no flint behind it. Reagan had flint. Romney, only sawdust -- a suit stuffed with sawdust. What a fu*king phony. I saw him crumble under Huckabee and McCain in the debates. Huckabee and McCain! And my memory goes back to him choking in a Ted Kennedy debate.

What I did not see however, not fully, was the malice of the guy. Man, he is one nasty POS.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:57 PM (H8QX8)

298 Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Fyouh)

I thought you two split up years ago.

Posted by: dartist at August 20, 2019 06:57 PM (K22Va)

299 CrotchetyOldJarhead: "Fuck the GOP in general and those asshats in particular."

In a nutshell.

Parties serve themselves. Period. Democracy is used to get control, but controlling the governmental apparatus is for Party use. The constituency is a currency to buy the real power, and it's relegated to a central few.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 20, 2019 06:57 PM (6eEQ+)

300 If CO2 actually did make the erf warmer by a couple of degrees I would say we need more. Its better for growing plants, like the kind Jack Straw smokes.

Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 20, 2019 06:58 PM (r+sAi)

301
I have discovered music by the composer Giovanni Pierluigi da Palestrina, that lifts the soul and which I am certain is what I will hear if I am lucky enough to land in Heaven some day.

Thomas Tallis, Spem in Alium

https://youtu.be/QmH1nZSGIyY

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2019 06:58 PM (Wx/+I)

302 I am ashamed that I didn't vote for Trump in the primaries.
Posted by: Patrick from Ohio at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (dKiJG)

I am annoyed that I couldn't. Colorado still does that stupid cuck-ass process.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 20, 2019 06:58 PM (xPJvm)

303 >> Any statement with Jews and "loyalty" is going to get you in trouble. Trump will be knee-deep in this shit tomorrow because of that idiotic remark.

Any person who is more upset by Trump's loyalty remark vs. the many remarks and associations of Omar and Tlaib has bigger problems than Trump.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 20, 2019 06:58 PM (bDqIh)

304 Any statement with Jews and "loyalty" is going to get you in trouble. Trump will be knee-deep in this shit tomorrow because of that idiotic remark.

Posted by: DahlandMeier at August 20, 2019 06:50 PM (Fyouh)

Where have you been for the past three years?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (H8QX8)

305 It was bullshit meant to enrich Al Gore then, and it's bullshit meant to enrich people like him now.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2019 06:54 PM (eGEVz)

The original Carbon Credit scheme was created by the guys running Enron - no joke - because they saw it as a system that could easily be exploited for profits.

It's always been nothing but the most long running Enron scheme of all.

Posted by: Tom Servo at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (Kpl3J)

306 Mittens will never get my vote again, whats the difference between him and some Leftist?

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (BbGew)

307 http://bit.ly/2MAdeV9
*******
Philadelphia Police Commissioner Richard Ross Resigns - Breaking911

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (BqBId)

308
Jewish-Americans are the battered wife of US politics.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (Wx/+I)

309 If you say so. I honestly never know what definition
people are using to call the LDS Church a cult. Usually it degenerates
into a mental gymnastics exercise to somehow exclude established
churches and only include us. That and accusations that don't fit the
Church as I know it.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM (9t0Zz)

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I was correcting the other guy. Could have used scare quotes around "cult."

I mean if you're going to denounce people as a cult or heresy or whatever, it helps to have your facts in order.

I take no position on the succession dispute after Smith's death. I mention Strang because it's a neat local history hook for Michiganders.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:00 PM (cfSRQ)

310 Mitt gets the press because he's Never-Trump - otherwise, he's just another crank with a "who cares" position. Mitt craves this relevancy like all Never-Trumpers do, its a politicians sickness that they are compelled to seek out the press and they don't care that they snicker behind their back.

Posted by: Boswell at August 20, 2019 07:00 PM (32YRo)

311 Its almost like mitts is being controlled. hmmmm was he ever out to the pedo island?

Posted by: Pliney at August 20, 2019 07:01 PM (nzKWW)

312 Any statement with Jews and "loyalty" is going to get you in trouble. Trump will be knee-deep in this shit tomorrow because of that idiotic remark.

------

Maybe, maybe not.

But not with this Jew.

People who vote for the Party of Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib are pig-ignorant, or they're race traitors.

Take your pick. Neither option is desirable.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2019 07:01 PM (eGEVz)

313 ot: At last we know where the transplant came from for Joe Bidens aneurysm.

https://youtu.be/qLLIwFMPmWA?t=86

Posted by: DaveA at August 20, 2019 07:01 PM (FhXTo)

314 I had to grab my 3 year old and march out of "happy feet" years ago because it turned into a propaganda piece.
Posted by: dagny at A

you have a three year old?

Posted by: yankeefifith at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (HALdu)

315 Mittens is a child molestor.

Posted by: Parker Longbaugh at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (IoIaQ)

316 I voted for McCain, I voted for Romney and I'm not ashamed.

The shame goes to the grass roots movers and shakers that make certain we had no good conservative to vote for.

That goes for your rep and your senator also.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (CFSlN)

317 Where have you been for the past three years?

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (H8QX

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Pay no attention to the troll.

It's a stupid effort to distract and yes, given that Trump has been LITERALLY A NAZI for a while know, it's hard to see what he could do to make the left more nuts.

Meanwhile, Dems are playing footsie with Intifada Rashida, so whatever.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (cfSRQ)

318 I am annoyed that I couldn't. Colorado still does that stupid cuck-ass process.
Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 20, 2019 06:58 PM (xPJvm)

Yep. And then in the general, it's mail-in only in CO. Color me highly dubious that my vote gets counted.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (O8WFE)

319 Only a relatively small percent of the population actually uses facts and logical reasoning on a continuing basis and adjusts their assumptions and framework as experience and history tells them they should.

Posted by: whig at August 20, 2019 06:56 PM (hqUZK)

And this is why the leftists keep winning and the right keeps losing despite our well crafted arguments. Trump is different and he tends to use ridicule and emotional rhetoric to demolish the left and it works. Reagan was similar and it worked.

So of course the right will try to use logic next time to win the argument...because reasons.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (ltuaO)

320 308
Jewish-Americans are the battered wife of US politics.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 20, 2019 06:59 PM (Wx/+I)

BS

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (CFSlN)

321 Anybody got a triple-beam CO2 scale handy?

Posted by: klaftern at August 20, 2019 07:03 PM (RuIsu)

322 Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:00 PM (cfSRQ)

I apologize for mis-understanding your intent.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 07:03 PM (9t0Zz)

323 Skip: "Mittens will never get my vote again, whats the difference between him and some Leftist?"

The Leftist will stab you in the front; Mittens will stab you in the back. If you're in a fight, you'd rather invite the Leftist.

Mittens is now a cancerous sore. That took some real work.

Posted by: AnonyBotymousDrivel at August 20, 2019 07:03 PM (6eEQ+)

324 Its almost like mitts is being controlled. hmmmm was he ever out to the pedo island?

Posted by: Pliney at August 20, 2019 07:01 PM (nzKWW)

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Watch "Advise and Consent."

Junior senator from Utah has a secret.

Coincidence?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:03 PM (cfSRQ)

325 Also - If we'd have set fire them when they first brought up AGW they'd be out by now. Mitt's just looking to get re-lit.

Posted by: DaveA at August 20, 2019 07:04 PM (FhXTo)

326 Its almost like mitts is being controlled. hmmmm was he ever out to the pedo island?

Posted by: Pliney at August 20, 2019 07:01 PM (nzKWW)

Such a disclosure would certainly top any sordid twist from a political novel.

I would love to see it.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 07:04 PM (H8QX8)

327 Watch "Advise and Consent."

Junior senator from Utah has a secret.

Coincidence?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:03 PM (cfSRQ)

You mentioned this before.
Give us some help on it.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 07:05 PM (CFSlN)

328 sultanknish.blogspot.com/marianne williamson shows dems are cult

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 07:06 PM (BbGew)

329 These days the misdeeds in "Advice and Consent" are kid stuff.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 07:06 PM (H8QX8)

330 Romney ride the Lolita Express, what a novel idea.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 07:06 PM (CFSlN)

331 The difference between Mitt and Trump is that Mitt has no problem being used by these idiots, press is press. Trump, on the other hand, uses the press much like the press uses Mitt...Mitt's desire is born from an attention seeking sickness regardless of how idiotic your position results in being, Trump's is born out of the need to use people with that same sickness to advance some agenda.

Posted by: Boswell at August 20, 2019 07:07 PM (32YRo)

332 When does Al Gore sell his oceanfront mansion for $1?

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 20, 2019 07:07 PM (Mevy0)

333 Al Gore needs to do a sequel to his movie, Earth in the Lurch.

Earth in the Lurch 2: Mother Gaia's Death Boogaloo.

Get Tarantino to direct it and the idiots will line up around the block to give him their money.

Oh, the horror, the horror.

Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 20, 2019 07:07 PM (Z+IKu)

334 I'm ashamed to my core that I ever voted for him.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 20, 2019 06:55 PM

----------------

Agreed. However, I try to cover my shame by it wasn't a vote for him, but rather a vote against Obummer.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 20, 2019 07:07 PM (Dhht7)

335 Alar, Radon, GMO , oil spills, oil well fires, ozone depletion, ice age , global heating, etc etc etc.

I was supposed to be dead a long time ago. Now they tell me I have 12 more years .

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 20, 2019 07:07 PM (2DOZq)

336 I apologize for mis-understanding your intent.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 20, 2019 07:03 PM (9t0Zz)

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No worries.

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:07 PM (cfSRQ)

337 281 I remember arguing on this site back in 2012 that Romney was the conservative alternative to the Chocolate Messiah. I am deeply ashamed.

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. Your shame should be anger. Deep, heat of a thousand suns anger. We've been manipulated and sold down the river for decades by people like Mittens, Ryan and McStain.

Fuck the GOP in general and those asshats in particular.
Posted by: CrotchetyOldJarhead
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I endorse this X eleventy Marine.

Posted by: NALNAMSAM - not as lean, not as mean, still a Marine at August 20, 2019 07:08 PM (+ldAm)

338 Yep. And then in the general, it's mail-in only in CO. Color me highly dubious that my vote gets counted.
Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 20, 2019 07:02 PM (O8WFE)

In the last election, at least, you could still hand deliver your ballot to the Courthouse and deposit it in the ballot box yourself. Given what kind of shit-bag guv and legislature we have now, would not be a bit surprised if they took that next step.

Posted by: Pug Mahon at August 20, 2019 07:08 PM (xPJvm)

339 These days the misdeeds in "Advice and Consent" are kid stuff.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 07:06 PM (H8QX

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What I'm driving at is that the junior Senator from Utah had a case of teh ghey in his past and it got found out.

Maybe oddly prescient?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:09 PM (cfSRQ)

340 www.inquirer.com/richard ross resigns philadelphia police commissioner gender racial sexual harassment

Posted by: Skip at August 20, 2019 07:09 PM (BbGew)

341 I drank Wild Turkey at 8am when I had to vote for Romney. I knew it was a bad thing to do at the time. I felt that it was better than not voting. I question that decision pretty frequently.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 20, 2019 07:09 PM (eGEVz)

342 I think 90 to 100% of the "global warming" is urban heat island from increased development, and reduced particulate pollution causing more energy to reach the earth. This second factor is completely ignored by the current analyses.

Increased CO2 is mostly a good thing by itself. Increased temperatures are probably mostly a good thing (more rain, but also more heat in hot regions) but those positives are also totally ignored by any economic analysis.

CO2 tax would be highly regressive. I would be in favor off limiting people to one airplane trip every 6 months or so. (all people, especially asshole politicians) but that is just to make them live in a community and deal with local problems instead of being a scold to the whole world.

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at August 20, 2019 07:10 PM (LWu6U)

343 Even if I believed that AGW was a major threat, which I don't, and if I believed that it could be stopped, which I don't, I know for dam sure that carbon taxes won't fix it, and will in fact be diverted into the pockets of grifters, pols, and assorted bureaucratic thieves. It is SO bleeding obvious.

This strange new breed of conservatives believes, just like liberals do, that any problem can be solved by throwing money at it. Conservatives (those who "conserve") used to know better.

Saw another "news" article today about "stopping climate change." Proving once again, we live in an era of LIES and awful STUPIDITY. The Dark Ages have nothing on us, when it comes to sheer ignorance and superstition.

Posted by: gp at August 20, 2019 07:10 PM (mk9aG)

344 In the last election, at least, you could still hand deliver your ballot to the Courthouse and deposit it in the ballot box yourself.

That's right - I remember I actually did do that last time. So I know they got it. But did they count it.

Posted by: Guy Smiley at August 20, 2019 07:10 PM (O8WFE)

345 l Gore needs to do a sequel to his movie,

--

"Earth, the walls are closing in"

Posted by: Gentlemen, this is democracy manifest at August 20, 2019 07:11 PM (LWu6U)

346 Nood. Epstein.

Posted by: Thanatopsis at August 20, 2019 07:11 PM (iwziO)

347 What I'm driving at is that the junior Senator from Utah had a case of teh ghey in his past and it got found out.

Maybe oddly prescient?

Posted by: Ace-Endorsed Author A.H. Lloyd at August 20, 2019 07:09 PM (cfSRQ)

So Romney and Rubio were bunk buddies?
I told you Harry Reid had some pics.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 07:11 PM (CFSlN)

348 Fvck you Juan.

Posted by: dartist at August 20, 2019 07:13 PM (K22Va)

349 1. You don't pursue a policy just 'cos all the hep youngsters think its groovy, Tool Boy.

2. Carbon Tax--Cap and Trade is Globalist $cam, not a real solution. That's why Mittens really likes it--because his owners told him too.

3. Every dollar shoved down that Big Gummint rathole is a dollar that can't be spent on actual clean-up of real pollution or the protection of habitat.

4. Except for Shabby Nadler, the air you exhale is not pollution. And none of this useless horseshit will alter global temperatures a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a degree a century from now--even if it worked!

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 20, 2019 07:13 PM (Ndje9)

350 "We've been manipulated and sold down the river for decades by people like Mittens, Ryan and McStain. "

They allowed the media to put a dunce cap on their heads and kick them down Main Street, like the Red Brigades did to the old Commies in China, all because they wanted the attention and had no real agenda. What an embarrassment - to them and their supporters.

Posted by: Boswell at August 20, 2019 07:13 PM (32YRo)

351 I drank Wild Turkey at 8am when I had to vote for Romney.

That was certainly a day full of turkeys.

Posted by: Notorious BFD at August 20, 2019 07:13 PM (EgshT)

352 Palestrina, whoever recommended him was on the money. Thanks.

Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 07:15 PM (CFSlN)

353 I was assured by the GOPErs that Romney was a great, conservative, stand-up guy.

I regret voting for Romney. Not that I would have voted for TFG but writing in Daffy Duck would have been better.

Posted by: I Have Questions at August 20, 2019 07:17 PM (BvNzB)

354 I'm still trying to wrap my head around "carbon credits." I think it works like this:

Joe Blow says "I'm going to burn five trillion tons of coal. Sounds like a good project."

DiCaprio says "Don't do that. Here's a bazillion dollars in credits if you don't follow thru with your plan."

Joe Blow says "It's a deal!"

I mean, who knows if Joe Blow was serious in the first place?

Why not just make up fanciful plans for earth-destroying projects (with no real intention of actually doing them) and reap the money thrown at you for "abandoning" your fake project plans?

Libs (and new-breed conservatives, apparently) think every actor is pure in heart, and motivated by only the best intentions. It's completely ignorant of the reality of human nature.

Posted by: gp at August 20, 2019 07:17 PM (mk9aG)

355 I think a psychological profile of Mitt is in order. I think he's a real case study of a certain kind of pathology. Unresolved power-daddy issues (mirror image of Gore), the over-compensating money-making with the vulture capitalism, the failed campaign against Teddy and choking in the final debate, the strange self-sabotaging presidential campaign (mirroring McCain) especially after the first debate, the post-election murmurings about not even wanting to win, the absolutely vicious attacks on Trump obviously driven by malignant envy, the overweening need to kowtow to the Left. I think he's a sick puppy, but the sort who never gets exposed and keeps operating as some kind of respectable figure.

Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 20, 2019 07:17 PM (H8QX8)

356 Sidebar: You who do not visit the darker side of the web may not know that Taylor Swift is regarded as the perfect Aryan archetype, the Valkyrie breeder-queen who will save the white race thru the use of her prodigious white womb. I'll give them credit for calling her pretty.

Posted by: gp at August 20, 2019 07:21 PM (mk9aG)

357 Of course we believe in climate change. Look at the ancient forests in the arctic that are being exposed by melting ice. And the Viking dairy farms in Greenland.

We will have more arable land, more food, more wealth, and more health than ever before.
Posted by: Frosty at August 20, 2019 06:41 PM (CFSlN)

Exactly. Frankly, for many parts of the world, "climate change" might be a downright boon, if it truly *is* real. So far, it has not been, and I have been hearing doomsday for three decades on this. Before that it was the New Ice Age caused by Sulfur dioxides (not just for acid rain!) and jet planes making more clouds.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 20, 2019 07:24 PM (ujg0T)

358 Sidebar: You who do not visit the darker side of the web may not know that Taylor Swift is regarded as the perfect Aryan archetype, the Valkyrie breeder-queen who will save the white race thru the use of her prodigious white womb. I'll give them credit for calling her pretty.
Posted by: gp at August 20, 2019 07:21 PM (

O_o

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 20, 2019 07:24 PM (rBtIz)

359 1. Deep state must have something on Romney. [Or he is demented] Spouting this BS and also taking a dive in the debates.

2. Maybe TDS. Trump humiliated him so he is reflexively against anything Trump could possibly be for.

BTW: Deep State may be alternate explanation for the failure of the "get out the vote" software on election night in the Romney-Obama contest.

Anyway, LOLGF

Posted by: The Poster Formerly Known as Mr. Barky at August 20, 2019 07:42 PM (hKi6n)

360 Try this one:

Say you believe in man made global climate change warming. Then state that the Earth is currently too cool and that a higher average temperature is needed to open up vast land in Siberia, Canada, Antarctica and other places

Posted by: MAGA at August 20, 2019 07:44 PM (6fPrQ)

361 Say what you will, Biden surgically losing his frontal lobes did have an effect.

JOE BIDEN speaking now in Urbande, IA: "When Bobby Kennedy and Dr King were assassinated, in the 70s-in the late 70s."

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 20, 2019 07:51 PM (+y/Ru)

362 Sidebar: You who do not visit the darker side of the web may not know that Taylor Swift is regarded as the perfect Aryan archetype, the Valkyrie breeder-queen who will save the white race thru the use of her prodigious white womb. I'll give them credit for calling her pretty.
Posted by: gp at August 20, 2019 07:21 PM (

O_o
Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 20, 2019 07:24 PM (rBtIz)

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I don't see Taylor Swift as the maternal type, those women have better judgement when it comes to men. Swift will be childless at 50 and railing at the patriarchy which forced her to act like a teenager through all her adult years.

Posted by: Decaf at August 20, 2019 07:52 PM (kGBB1)

363 Sidebar: You who do not visit the darker side of the web may not know that Taylor Swift is regarded as the perfect Aryan archetype, the Valkyrie breeder-queen who will save the white race thru the use of her prodigious white womb. I'll give them credit for calling her pretty.

-
I didn't even know she had a horned Viking helmet.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 20, 2019 07:53 PM (+y/Ru)

364 Say what you will, Biden surgically losing his frontal lobes did have an effect.

JOE BIDEN speaking now in Urbande, IA: "When Bobby Kennedy and Dr King were assassinated, in the 70s-in the late 70s."
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 20, 2019 07:51 PM (+y/Ru)

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It doesn't matter one jot to the Democrats, they would nominate an empty chair, oh wait ...

Posted by: Decaf at August 20, 2019 07:54 PM (kGBB1)

365 Romney is bitter. I would never have thought it of him, though now I know I should never have voted for him. He was marginally better than Obama, I suppose, and maybe he would have learned something while in office. But I'm beginning to doubt it.

Posted by: Your Friendly Neighborhood Witch at August 20, 2019 09:41 PM (xZjSg)

366 Romney is now McCain 2. both were dissed by my President and they have assumed a level of corrosive hate that .....

Posted by: losers go ta lose at August 20, 2019 10:08 PM (0hOKG)

367
Can we start calling Mitt "Hymie"?
Hymie Romney has a certain ring to it.
But he's not on our side, which is quite unfortunate.

Posted by: Gunslinger at August 20, 2019 10:15 PM (iB4Gd)

368 Huge Get Smart fan, not channeling Jessie Jackson.

For all you youngsters...

Posted by: Gunslinger at August 20, 2019 10:17 PM (iB4Gd)

369 Socialist, like demorats, are locksteppers liked they were in Germany last century. Their is no moral standard they won't violate, and no holy virgin they won't claim to suit their purposes. Hell is moving fast towards the End Times destruction, fueled by duplicitous ho's, without conscience. Satan knows how to appeal to the weak and phony, hypocrites-stooges.

Posted by: ron n. at August 21, 2019 12:25 AM (om5HK)

370 Romney, Romney, born with a silver spoon in his mouth

Born with shit for brains

Born without balls

Born without a spine

But blessed with a doubled sized pussy

Rommney, Rommney a Fredocon without compare

Posted by: I am not corey Booker at August 21, 2019 12:38 AM (nRj4F)

371 no, these are real republicans. You can spot them easily by their FAKE opposition to the left for a period of ~10 years on some particular issue followed by what they call "caving" which is actually just admitting you agreed all along but had to lie to your voters to get into office.

Posted by: dw at August 21, 2019 11:38 AM (X8FSN)

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