In Wake of ICE Raid and Reduction of Illegal Workforce, Over 200 Americans Apply for Jobs at Koch Foods Chicken Plant

Jobs that Americans will do, if you stop letting illegals do them.

By the way, this is not the same Koch as the famous left-libertarian Koch brothers' company.

But do feel free to make that connection in your head.

A state official said Wednesday that more than 200 people applied for jobs at a chicken processing plant in Morton during a job fair held Monday.

Koch Foods, one of four companies with plants in six small Mississippi towns, was targeted in a massive federal immigration raid on Aug. 7. It contacted the state employment agency the same day to request its help in hiring workers.

...

Dianne Bell, communications director at MDES, said the [jobs] fair, originally scheduled from 9 a.m. to 1 p.m., was extended to 5 p.m. because of the number of applicants. She also said the number would likely be updated beyond the 216.

Posted by: Ace of Spades at 05:50 PM




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1 kaboom!

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 05:50 PM (Vy7tf)

2 f'n Americans. No pride.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut IN at August 19, 2019 05:50 PM (CPk08)

3 as the famous left-libertarian Koch brothers' company.

I hate those Kochs.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2019 05:51 PM (lVJPV)

4 Jobs created.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 05:51 PM (Vy7tf)

5 I'll believe the new employees are American citizens when I see that they've been checked with E-Verify. I will not hold my breath.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 05:51 PM (mk9aG)

6
I hate those fucking Koch cocksuckers.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:51 PM (vw+Q6)

7 Helluva magic wand you got there, Mr. Trump.

Posted by: Obama at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (N39Ws)

8 Before the raid they would just circular file any Americans' applications.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (1g7ch)

9 The management and owners of Koch Foods should be applying for jobs in the prison laundry.

Posted by: Miklos, imperfectly tolerant at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (QzkSJ)

10 No American should be forced to work, day in and day out, just to feed their family! That's why we, as a nation of immigrants, need to pen our borders and hearts to the world!

Posted by: Alexandia Occasio Cortez at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (CPk08)

11
The Kochs should be fined $1,000,000 per illegal.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (vw+Q6)

12 THIS IS NOT WHO WE ARE!!!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (FiUMj)

13 Do we get to fuck the chickens first?

Posted by: CNN at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (v0R5T)

14 Mixed feelings about this. I'm glad Americans who want the work are now getting a chance. But I'm not thrilled about Koch asking the state for help. If they hadn't been employing illegals they wouldn't need any.

Posted by: Frasier Crane (I'm coming back!) at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (UvwXq)

15 OxyContin founders and producers hardest hit if this trend continues.

Posted by: reasons to train at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (QwmrN)

16 Funny the way people will work if you let them work.

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Temper Your Tantrums With Strident Strife From The Outrage Outlet! at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (CkGtt)

17 11

The Kochs should be fined $1,000,000 per illegal.


Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (vw+Q6)
Any employer who is found to not have followed the e-Verify process should be fined as such.

Posted by: Our Country is Screwed at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (N39Ws)

18 I admire the applicants. Got to be a hard worker to survive in any kind of meat processing, or desperate.

Posted by: A lega nad a thigh please. at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (vqIkG)

19 The Kochs should be fined $1,000,000 per illegal.
Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (vw+Q6)


For starters.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 05:53 PM (t+qrx)

20 That is something I have known for 20 years, toss out the illegals and watch Americans work

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (BbGew)

21 It's one thing to show up at a job fair. Another thing to actually show up, you know, at the actual job.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (FiUMj)

22 I read that a Brazilian was arrested and all I could do was cry. Like, how many is a brazillian??!!

Posted by: AOC at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (Vy7tf)

23 I don't understand why Koch is still operating, or at least under new management because the old management is in prison.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (Tnijr)

24
Funny how Americans are willing to pluck chickens if you pay them
more than chicken feed, which is what the kochsuckers were doing.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (vw+Q6)

25 13 Do we get to fuck the chickens first?

Posted by: CNN


*snort*

Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (d7Ww2)

26 I read that a Brazilian was arrested and all I could do was cry. Like, how many is a brazillian??!!

Posted by: AOC at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (Vy7tf)


ROFLMAO!!

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (lVJPV)

27 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

Just some corporate dinks who want to depress wages and even at those wages I think you would find people willing to work.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (ltuaO)

28
DJIA: 26,135.79, +249.78 (+0.96%) on fears of a collapsing economy.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (Wx/+I)

29 Glad those Americans are getting a shot at gainful employment. Glad the illegals are unemployed. When they apply for welfare round them up and ship them south.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (Vddbf)

30 "I hate those fucking Koch cocksuckers."

Ten years ago, all the progressives hated them too. Remember, one day the progs were always muttering "Halliburton, Halliburton," then the next day it switched to "Koch brothers, Koch brothers."

I don't know who is maintaining the official sh!tlist these days. My job's easy: I hate everybody.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (mk9aG)

31 >>Do we get to fuck the chickens first?
Posted by: CNN

Hey, my job pendejo.

Posted by: Illegal Pedro at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (2cuLk)

32 Hellooooooooo nurse!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (NWiLs)

33 The Koch's raise chickens?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (tVQUs)

34 Fines just come out of the company profits. A cost of doing business. Incarceration hurts.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (Tnijr)

35 Anyone named Koch should be fined.

Posted by: Dr Spank at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (4e+hS)

36 It's almost as though somehow illegal immigrants are preferred employees for low paying jobs.

I just don't get how that works. It's mystifying.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (CPk08)

37 re 22: ha!

Posted by: mallfly the peach of hoboken at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (ZqRa6)

38 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

Just some corporate dinks who want to depress wages and even at those wages I think you would find people willing to work.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (ltuaO)


G.W. Bush pushed that line hard.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (aS1PU)

39
More chickens, less cockfighting.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (Wx/+I)

40 Hit the Tyson plants next.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (Vddbf)

41 I read that a Brazilian was arrested and all I could do was cry. Like, how many is a brazillian??!!

Posted by: AOC at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (Vy7tf)

It comes right after a trillion.

Posted by: Barry Soetoro - AA, BFD at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (v0R5T)

42 Look Ace, how many times do we have to tell you?

It's a sacred conservative principle that corporations should be allowed to employ illegal workers. Especially if it means they can pay them less than citizens.

And if that means American citizens can't compete with their lower wages, well, they're just going to have to die. Or learn to code.

You'd learn that if you'd just buy a four-pack of tickets for our upcoming cruise. Hurry! Space is limited!

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (k81AA)

43 Jobs created.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 05:51 PM (Vy7tf)


Worth repeating!

Posted by: weew at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (gk7if)

44 21 It's one thing to show up at a job fair. Another thing to actually show up, you know, at the actual job.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (FiUMj)

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How many will still be there to collect their third paycheck?

Posted by: rd at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (EK+Pw)

45 Anyone named Koch should be fined.


How'm I doin'? How'm I doin'?

Posted by: Ed Koch, pronounced like "crotch" at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (786Ro)

46 34 Fines just come out of the company profits. A cost of doing business. Incarceration hurts.
Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (Tnijr)



However, if you make that cost of doing (the illegal alien hiring) business high enough, you would get results.....

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (ujg0T)

47 I doubt the Kochs will hire any Americans to replace the Illegals.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (tVQUs)

48 Yo!

Posted by: Yo! at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (1XAal)

49 "It's one thing to show up at a job fair."

And give your personal info to thirty liars and charlatans, and never get a call back. Job fairs are a cruel joke. Not worth the time it takes to groom yourself to their exacting specifications. F*ck them with Satan's barbed cock!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM (mk9aG)

50
Didn't it come out that one of Koch brothers is a weirdo and a pervert?

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM (vw+Q6)

51 Morton, MS is located between Jackson and Meridian on I-20.

All I have to say to the Democrats is "Cuckafiga!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM (wsWjl)

52 How'm I doin'? How'm I doin'?
Posted by: Ed Koch, pronounced like "crotch" at August 19, 2019 05:57 PM (786Ro)



I think he may have been the last Northeastern Democrat for whom I had any respect. RIP.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM (ujg0T)

53 The Kochs should be fined $1,000,000 per illegal.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 05:52 PM (vw+Q6)

Pass a law allowing illegals to sue their employers and former employers for 10 times their legal wages when they leave.

End of the illegal job market and the best part is you can frame it as justice for illegals...Pablo's Law.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM (ltuaO)

54 Can we finally chuck the phrase "Jobs American's won't do?"


These are jobs they don't want Americans to do so that they can pay them sh#t wages.

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (bDqIh)

55 wait'll they find out they don't get to fvck the chickens...

Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (D0ZGj)

56 E-verify is voluntary, unless business has contract with Fed's correct?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (Dhht7)

57 Well, butter my biscuit. Whoda thunk it?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (dUJdY)

58 Yep. This happens every time. Whenever these raids happen, people always say, "Nobody else is going to take those jobs!"
What they mean is, nobody else is going to work with no insurance, no legal protection, and below minimum wage. As soon as the company is forced to offer normal worker benefits, hundreds of legal citizens show up.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (9t0Zz)

59 Chicken Cacciatore

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (jm1YL)

60 I'm glad Americans who want the work are now getting a chance. But I'm not thrilled about Koch asking the state for help.

It means they have no idea how to legally employ someone. "What is this 'employer's share' of FICA?!"

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (DCYln)

61 However, if you make that cost of doing (the illegal alien hiring) business high enough,

Do enough raids and the illegals will quit going there to work.


Posted by: DaveA at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (FhXTo)

62 Pass a law allowing illegals to sue their employers and former employers for 10 times their legal wages when they leave.

End of the illegal job market and the best part is you can frame it as justice for illegals...Pablo's Law.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM (ltuaO)

That would be Highly Unconstitutional.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge, bought and paid for by the Kochs at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (tVQUs)

63 Whether you get hired or not depends to a large extent on whether they like you or not. Dont show up dirty and stinking with meth mouth and you have a good shot.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (Vddbf)

64 > I admire the applicants. Got to be a hard worker to survive in any kind of meat processing, or desperate.


Never did it myself, but had three high school friends who went down and got a job at the turkey plant. None of them were what you'd call wimps. One lasted a day, one lasted about a week, the third lasted a year or so until he offed himself.

Yeah, not a great job.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (b1Typ)

65
Chiggun! Employee discount!

Posted by: Semi-Literate Thug at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (0jmqe)

66 "Left libertarian" just does not make any sense to me. There is no strain of leftism that respects property rights, or that acknowledges that rights belong to the individual.


Without either of those, you don't have libertarianism.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (KeRzR)

67 57 Well, butter my biscuit. Whoda thunk it?
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (dUJdY)

Biscuits go great with chicken.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (NWiLs)

68 I was just on vacation and spent part of the time in Gatlinburg. I noticed the hotel cleaning staff was not only a majority non hispanic, but in fact included (unusually), men. I've observed the same in parts of Wisconsin as well. Same with fast food.

As a kid, landscaping used to be done by high school and college kids during the summer break.

Only caveat... from a service quality standpoint not much difference at fast food with an illegal that might have a poor command of English and a millennial that might have a poor command of work ethic.

Had a millennial knowingly give me a cop of carbonated water because they were out of coke syrup without mentioning it... just because, I assume. Made sense to him.

Posted by: Keith at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (jdGlx)

69 We choke our own chickens

Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (5l6gb)

70 I read that a Brazilian was arrested and all I could do was cry. Like, how many is a brazillian??!!

Posted by: AOC at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (Vy7tf)



Or maybe she thought it referred to waxing her hoo-ha.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (ujg0T)

71 I think he may have been the last Northeastern Democrat for whom I had any respect. RIP.
Posted by: Curmudgeon

"The people have spoken, and now they must be punished."

-Ed Koch, after losing re-election

Posted by: Miklos, was at CBGBs once, only reason to visit NYC at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (QzkSJ)

72 I saw a story that the illegals at plants in Georgia fleed bigtime

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (BqBId)

73 G.W. Bush pushed that line hard.

Posted by: DR.WTF at August 19, 2019 05:56 PM (aS1PU)

And Juan McCain.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (ltuaO)

74 20 That is something I have known for 20 years, toss out the illegals and watch Americans work
Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (BbGew)

D ----

But then you have to pay the legal minimum wage, and adhere to OSHA and other work rules.

Posted by: rd at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (EK+Pw)

75
You know what'd be nice?

If all those cocksucker lawyers on my TV every 10 minutes telling me I need to sue
the makers of ROUNDUP weed killer (Monsanto) would start suing on behalf of illegals getting taken advantage by large corporations.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (vw+Q6)

76 Chicken Cacciatore
Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (jm1YL)


Pretty sure that's racist.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (t+qrx)

77 Jobs that Americans won't do (as cheap as illegal Mexicans).

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (oVJmc)

78 Job fairs are a cruel joke. Not worth the time it takes to groom yourself to their exacting specifications. F*ck them with Satan's barbed cock!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 05:58 PM

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I rate this comment true. Also, F*ck the EEOC.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (Dhht7)

79 Koch makes these frozen Chicken Kiev,Cordon Bleu etc.They are pretty good.

Posted by: steevy at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (l9mVC)

80 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

So is the "we can't find Americans qualified to do these tech jobs, so we need H1Bs".
That's why you see job postings requiring 5 years experience in 2 year old technologies. So HR can document that nobody applied with the requisite experience. Viola, H1B to the rescue.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (9t0Zz)

81 58
Yep. This happens every time. Whenever these raids happen, people always say, "Nobody else is going to take those jobs!"
What
they mean is, nobody else is going to work with no insurance, no legal
protection, and below minimum wage. As soon as the company is forced to
offer normal worker benefits, hundreds of legal citizens show up.


Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (9t0Zz)

What they don't teach you in highschool is that worker's safety and benefits started as a white supremacist movement.

Posted by: Alcoholic Asshole Shut In at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (CPk08)

82 Whether you get hired or not depends to a large extent on whether they like you or not. Dont show up dirty and stinking with meth mouth and you have a good shot.

Posted by: Xipe Totec at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (Vddbf)
........

So. No face tattoos?

Posted by: wth at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (v0R5T)

83 Why would any normal thinking person be surprised about people applying for vacant jobs?? Only a bigot would think differently... oh, Leftists, nevermind.. I was thinking normal....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (6QfxY)

84 Biscuits go great with chicken.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (NWiLs)

And waffles. Chicken and Waffles!

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (q1Pj5)

85 Hmm, it's almost like the CoC mantra of "all those jobs Americans won't do" is complete and total bullshit.

Also, somebody needs to get in those globalistas faces and axe them why they don't want any of their employees to be paid well.


Like they are.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (HaL55)

86 I'm not going to quit etymologyzing just because it's a new thread. I'm calling on Sidebar Sanction.

Sidebar says cuck comes from old French coucuault, I say it's from the German Kuckuck. Which looks closer?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (fuK7c)

87 wait'll they find out they don't get to fvck the chickens...
Posted by: redc1c4

"And then, officer, was when the cockfighting started."

Posted by: Miklos, non-fiction author at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (QzkSJ)

88 "Left libertarian" just does not make any sense to me. There is no strain of leftism that respects property rights, or that acknowledges that rights belong to the individual.


Without either of those, you don't have libertarianism.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (KeRzR)


You have the weed.

Posted by: ThePrimordialOrderedPair at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (lVJPV)

89 That would be Highly Unconstitutional.

Posted by: Hawaiian Judge, bought and paid for by the Kochs at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (tVQUs)

Justice for Pablo and hang the racist judge!

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (ltuaO)

90 Chicken Cacciawetback.

Posted by: wth at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (v0R5T)

91 66 "Left libertarian" just does not make any sense to me. There is no strain of leftism that respects property rights, or that acknowledges that rights belong to the individual.

Without either of those, you don't have libertarianism.
Posted by: McLurkerson at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (KeRzR)



Well, that strain of "libertarian" cares only about smoking weed at best, and putting anything in the mouths, veins, vages, or anuses without consequence at worst.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (ujg0T)

92 72 I saw a story that the illegals at plants in Georgia fleed bigtime
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (BqBId)

Go Door to Door for in the neighborhoods selling frozen goods in black windbreakers advertising ICE on the back.

Posted by: rd at August 19, 2019 06:04 PM (EK+Pw)

93 Well, butter my biscuit. Whoda thunk it?

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (dUJdY)

Hoda?

Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2019 06:04 PM (q1Pj5)

94 The hyoid in the chicken is a very fragile bone. You have to wring that neck just the right way.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2019 06:04 PM (cZUj+)

95 84 Biscuits go great with chicken.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:00 PM (NWiLs)

And waffles. Chicken and Waffles!
Posted by: Count de Monet at August 19, 2019 06:03 PM (q1Pj5)

Mmmm....good eats.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:04 PM (NWiLs)

96 Chicken and waffles I do not understand... chicken and mashed potatoes and gravy I get....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:04 PM (6QfxY)

97 Chicken Cacciatore

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Goddamn Mafia chicken!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:05 PM (+y/Ru)

98 Not only are there open jobs - but pretty consistently, within a year of an ICE raid, the legal workers get a raise to encourage them to stay. Don't see a downside!

Posted by: Not From Around Here at August 19, 2019 06:05 PM (wrzAm)

99
All job applications are read by robots anyway. It's a lottery even to find out you've been turned down.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2019 06:05 PM (Wx/+I)

100 "Here, hold our India Pale Ales all you out-of-work and underemployed American engineers and tech workers." -- H-1B Visa holders

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 19, 2019 06:05 PM (aqEgy)

101 I think Koch Foods can redeem themselves (and even avoid jail time) if they use this situation to offer college grads a way to pay off their student loan debt.

Ivy Leaguers first (as always).

Posted by: Miklos, canal duty is another alternative at August 19, 2019 06:05 PM (QzkSJ)

102 wait'll they find out they don't get to fvck the chickens...
Posted by: redc1c4 at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (D0ZGj)

So that's not what animal husbandry means?

Posted by: AOC at August 19, 2019 06:06 PM (Izzlo)

103 "Whether you get hired or not depends to a large extent on whether they like you or not."

That's why I had to retire early. It's not about skills, it's not about your resume (which they never read.) "Unlikable" people should not be allowed to work, and should starve. Push them out to sea on ice floes.

43 years in the workforce, and I HAD to work with hundreds of unlikable people, whether I liked them or not. How did they get hired?

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:06 PM (mk9aG)

104 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

Just some corporate dinks who want to depress wages and even at those wages I think you would find people willing to work.
Posted by: Sharrukin2

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The H1b scam is very similar - just has better press: "We can't find qualified Americans for these jobs."

Posted by: God at August 19, 2019 06:06 PM (Y4EXg)

105 Yeah there is no Fredo Cordon Bleu Chicken recipe....

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2019 06:06 PM (wsWjl)

106 And Juan McCain.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:01 PM (ltuaO)


Remember when that POS told a bunch of people that they could not handle picking lettuce for only a wage rate which worked out to $100k a year.

Everybody, "I will"

McStain, "No my frienths, you could not handle it."

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 06:06 PM (1g7ch)

107 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bulls*** and always was.


No, not entirely. I've watched a gang of Hispanics putting the roof on my neighbor's house. They start early and work late. They work like maniacs all day in the hot sun.

You probably could get Americans to do that job, but you'd have to pay a lot more, and their productivity would be a lot lower. We need to be realistic about the tradeoffs.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (T6t7i)

108 Jobs that Americans won't do (as cheap as illegal Mexicans).

It's much more expensive for companies to do it right and harder to get rid of people- i.e., it is riskier. This is intentional.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (98WNR)

109 If I was Trump, I'd issue an EO that says:
Since being a journalist is such dangerous work, I'm giving preference to any journalist for work visas; up to five years in America

One, they can't be any more leftist than our current crop.
Two, we'd suddenly learn that noncitizens shouldn't be allowed to take our jobs.

Oh sure, they'll be a few proud "I deserve the rape" but they'll quite down when their ribs start showing.

Posted by: RoyalOil, Vicroy Canadian Territories at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (k81AA)

110 but are these the -right- kind of Americans? Not quite buzzfeed or huffington post political reporters...if you catch my drift.

Posted by: DNC/MEDIA at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (JziUy)

111 > Anyone named Koch should be fined.

Hey, leave me out of this. All I did was develop tuberculin (used in the tuberculin test), identify the causative agent of cholera, and come up with the postulates that are still used (in modified form) to identify the cause of infectious diseases in general.





Posted by: Robert Koch at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (b1Typ)

112 >>So that's not what animal husbandry means?
Posted by: AOC

Well, in your case...

Posted by: Aviator at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (2cuLk)

113 So is the "we can't find Americans qualified to do these tech jobs, so we need H1Bs".

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (9t0Zz)

Same scam with a higher salary.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (ltuaO)

114 I hear "jobs that Americans won't do" all the time. They leave out a very important part. Jobs Americans won't do at that wage.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (kTF2Z)

115 "So. No face tattoos?"

The last job-hunting "training" I had, in 2015, I mentioned to the "instructor" that I may have an advantage by having no tattoos or piercings. She looked at me like I spit in her face.

The rules have changed, bub.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (mk9aG)

116 I saw a story that the illegals at plants in Georgia fleed bigtime


My wife has students that get reeeeealy squirrely any time one of these raids happens.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (9t0Zz)

117 107 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bulls*** and always was.


No, not entirely. I've watched a gang of Hispanics putting the roof on my neighbor's house. They start early and work late. They work like maniacs all day in the hot sun.

You probably could get Americans to do that job, but you'd have to pay a lot more, and their productivity would be a lot lower. We need to be realistic about the tradeoffs.
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (T6t7i)

You get what you pay for....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (6QfxY)

118 Viola, H1B to the rescue.
Posted by: bonhomme

----

Sorry, bonhomme - didn't see your post.

Mea culpa.

Posted by: God at August 19, 2019 06:08 PM (Y4EXg)

119 All job applications are read by robots anyway.

-
Slip them a can of WD40 under the table.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:09 PM (+y/Ru)

120 Oh, it soul=nds nice, some people get lousy low paying jobs. But just wait: soon as wages go up, the price of chicken goes up, and consumers all over America are exploited, for what? So that some white supremacist goons in Mississippi can play with dead chickens. This is why we need immigrants: to give America the cheap meat we deserve. To keep Americans from working degrading jobs, in terrible, unsafe conditions. To ensure there is justice. That's why we fight.

Posted by: Alexandria Occasio Cortez at August 19, 2019 06:09 PM (CPk08)

121 94
The hyoid in the chicken is a very fragile bone. You have to wring that neck just the right way.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2019 06:04 PM (cZUj+)

_______


"It helps to have a couple of Clinton Crime Syndicate family members to assist you." -- Zombie Jeffrey Epstein

Posted by: ShainS -- in registry of disreputable federal law-abiding commenters at August 19, 2019 06:09 PM (p8dQU)

122 Off Almighty sock!!

*Thunderclap*

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2019 06:09 PM (Y4EXg)

123 80 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

So is the "we can't find Americans qualified to do these tech jobs, so we need H1Bs".
That's why you see job postings requiring 5 years experience in 2 year old technologies. So HR can document that nobody applied with the requisite experience. Viola, H1B to the rescue.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (9t0Zz)



And this also discourages American youths from studying it, when they can make more money in finance or what have you. And THEN they carp about not enough American youth studying STEM.

When something rewards less and pays off less (relative to the effort required to do it), you get less of it.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 06:09 PM (ujg0T)

124 Doll Eyes Alex, keep on choking the Class Warfare Chicken...

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (wsWjl)

125 Hi Insom!

*looks both ways*
*wiggles*
Feints left*

*POUNCE!*

Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (d7Ww2)

126
g'early evenin', 'rons

Posted by: AltonJackson
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in Chelsea, MI
at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (KCxzN)

127

Who will pluck my chickens?

Posted by: Little Red Koch at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (aKsyK)

128 I've never had chicken and waffles but I hear good things so maybe will give it a try. I'm with kraken though.. chicken and mashed potatoes... yum.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (dUJdY)

129 Slip them a can of WD40 under the table.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

FUN FACT

96% of all WD-40 visas in 2017 were given to Epstein All-Inclusives LLC and the Clinton Foundation

Posted by: MiklosWatch at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (QzkSJ)

130 You get what you pay for....

Posted by: kraken


At best. But as I said, if I had to hire a crew with my money, I'd pick the Hispanic one, all other things being equal (i.e. legality). They work a lot harder. Just being American doesn't make you automatically better. That's how we got the UAW.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (T6t7i)

131 At best. But as I said, if I had to hire a crew with
my money, I'd pick the Hispanic one, all other things being equal (i.e.
legality). They work a lot harder. Just being American doesn't make you
automatically better. That's how we got the UAW.


Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (T6t7i)


racist.

Posted by: Alexandria Occasio Cortez at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (CPk08)

132 Hardest hit - Chamber of Commerce.

Posted by: Cheri at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (oiNtH)

133 And THEN they carp about not enough American youth studying STEM.

Excuse me, STEM is outmoded, we have added art, so the acronym is now STEAM.

Posted by: Shrill SJW at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (9t0Zz)

134 You probably could get Americans to do that job, but you'd have to pay a lot more, and their productivity would be a lot lower.

I think it's been a long time, if ever, that you've seen an American work crew. They are exactly the same. Why are they the same? Because the job's the same. You described every roofing crew that's ever been, Amish, Mexican, American, all the same. Ok, maybe not Gypsies.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (C78No)

135 > Sidebar says cuck comes from old French coucuault, I say it's from the German Kuckuck. Which looks closer?

I thought it came from the cuckoo bird, which lays its eggs in the nests of other species of bird, leaving the other birds to support their offspring.

The analogy to a cucked husband seems obvious.

Posted by: Robert Koch at August 19, 2019 06:12 PM (b1Typ)

136 Anyone named Koch should be fined.

Hey, leave me out of this. All I did was develop tuberculin (used in the tuberculin test), identify the causative agent of cholera, and come up with the postulates that are still used (in modified form) to identify the cause of infectious diseases in general.
Posted by: Robert Koch at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (b1Typ)


Und ich war ein deutscher Waffeningenieur von Zuffenhausen.

Posted by: Theodor Koch at August 19, 2019 06:12 PM (t+qrx)

137 Hello Alton!!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 06:12 PM (dUJdY)

138 "The world will be saved by steam!"

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 19, 2019 06:12 PM (wsWjl)

139 Maybe we can bring over some journalists from Hong Kong as asylum cases. They can do the job American journalists won't do.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2019 06:12 PM (dNzKv)

140 Amish worker>Mexican worker, IMO

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:12 PM (6QfxY)

141 Heya, AltonJackson.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:13 PM (t+qrx)

142 Hiring a Hispanic crew is great if your Spanish is excellent, other wise you have to hire a Jefe and he sits on his ass and takes money from you and a cut from the rest of the crew.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2019 06:13 PM (cZUj+)

143 For 20 years seen good construction jobs go to barely if no English language speakers

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2019 06:13 PM (BbGew)

144 Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:11 PM (T6t7i)

That's a myth in my opinion. They mostly work hard but they will cut a corner if necessary or hide a mistake in a heartbeat.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 06:13 PM (2DOZq)

145
I think it's been a long time, if ever, that you've seen an American
work crew. They are exactly the same. Why are they the same? Because
the job's the same. You described every roofing crew that's ever been,
Amish, Mexican, American, all the same.


It has been a looong time since I worked any construction, but that was not what I saw.


Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:13 PM (T6t7i)

146 125 Hi Insom!

*looks both ways*
*wiggles*
Feints left*

*POUNCE!*
Posted by: comrade nurse ratched at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (d7Ww2)

OOF! Caught me off guard!

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (NWiLs)

147 >>>So that's not what animal husbandry means?
Posted by: AOC

> Well, in your case...

Wait until she finds out about sexual congress.

Posted by: Robert Koch at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (b1Typ)

148 Jobs americans won't do = import slaves

Posted by: dagny at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (nRWPy)

149 I think I'll just shit in this field of vegetables...

Posted by: Blessed Are The Illegals at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (EYsyU)

150 They mostly work hard but they will cut a corner if necessary or hide a mistake in a heartbeat.

That is true, but it doesn't take away from the pace they set. I honestly don't know how they do it.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (T6t7i)

151 Ever been to Mexico?


The place is a shithole

Posted by: Yo! at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (1XAal)

152 80 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

So is the "we can't find Americans qualified to do these tech jobs, so we need H1Bs".
That's why you see job postings requiring 5 years experience in 2 year old technologies. So HR can document that nobody applied with the requisite experience. Viola, H1B to the rescue.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (9t0Zz)

yep

Posted by: didImessupagain at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (Vhkmw)

153 I thought it came from the cuckoo bird, which lays its eggs in the nests of other species of bird, leaving the other birds to support their offspring.


It does. I'm just going with a Germanic origin of cuckoo vs. the Froggish one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (fuK7c)

154 In my orientation today, I was there with two others that will also be in my husband's department. And they're taking anyone with a pulse, even if they quit, because they'll still get work done. Plus they upped the starting wage by two dollars, which hleps a lot. It is definitely a worker's market around here.

Posted by: pookysgirl is now gainfully employed at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (XKZwp)

155 Who will pluck my chickens?

Posted by: Little Red Koch at August 19, 2019 06:10 PM (aKsyK)

"I thought you'd never ask" said the Little Red Rooster -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLrjhQ1-chw

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (HaL55)

156 My thing about ANY worker.... " git 'er done" is not okay....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (6QfxY)

157 other wise you have to hire a Jefe and he sits on his ass and takes money from you and a cut from the rest of the crew.
Posted by: Ben Had

Cussing at them in Hungarian works. Somehow.

Posted by: MiklosMultiLingual at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (QzkSJ)

158 Anyone named Koch should be fined.
Posted by: Dr Spank at August 19, 2019 05:55 PM (4e+hS)

What did we do to deserve this?

Posted by: The Koch People of Northern India at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (tVQUs)

159
hey Jewells, hogmartin

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
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at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (KCxzN)

160 Gee I wonder why the Koch brothers are so opposed to enforcing immigration law? A real puzzler

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (KZzsI)

161 So is the "we can't find Americans qualified to do these tech jobs, so we need H1Bs".
That's why you see job postings requiring 5 years experience in 2 year old technologies. So HR can document that nobody applied with the requisite experience. Viola, H1B to the rescue.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:02 PM (9t0Zz)


Once in industry I applied for a job at a neighboring company for which I was the perfect candidate; the job description could have been written from my resume, I had extensive experience in exactly what they were looking for, a friend and mentor of mine was on the board of directors, and the company was about 200 yards away from where I was working at the time.

Never heard a peep from them. Not a word. Not even enough curiosity to ask me to shuffle down the street for a look-see.

Inference: they had an internal H1B candidate, and were merely advertising to say they couldn't any American qualified.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (heaSb)

162 145
I think it's been a long time, if ever, that you've seen an American
work crew. They are exactly the same. Why are they the same? Because
the job's the same. You described every roofing crew that's ever been,
Amish, Mexican, American, all the same.

It has been a looong time since I worked any construction, but that was not what I saw.


Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:13 PM (T6t7i)


Yeahhhh, No. Uncle worked concrete. All American. 60 year old Able to hump 80-pound concrete frames all day.

Posted by: AOC at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (Vy7tf)

163 *points at Bander*

YOOHOO, BARREL! HE'S OVER HERE, BARREL!

Posted by: pookysgirl is now gainfully employed at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (XKZwp)

164 Guess your jobs don't suck, Koch.

Posted by: Roy at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (ABjxW)

165 Ack!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (fuK7c)

166 Koch off.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (b1Typ)

167 "Whether you get hired or not depends to a large extent on whether they like you or not."

White male professionals with decades of experience, and multiple degrees, become automatically UNLIKABLE at age 62.

It's not about compensation. They never get around to asking how much you want to get paid. Because they never call you back, as they always promise to do.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (mk9aG)

168 I'm just going with a Germanic origin of cuckoo vs. the Froggish one.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (fuK7c)

You seem to be going with an Italican Origin.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 06:16 PM (tVQUs)

169 I recently learnt that "Paolo" comes from Dante's Inferno - Paolo Malatesta. That Paolo is stuck in Circle Two with Mrs Francesca Malatesta née da Rimini. In an eternal whirlwind.

Why do they share a last name, if they weren't married, you ask? -because Paolo was the younger brother of Giovanni Malatesta. Giovanni caught Paolo and Francesca at it, after a ten year affair, and murdered the both of them.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2019 06:17 PM (ykYG2)

170 I say it's from the German Kuckuck.

I thought it came from the cuckoo bird


You both are saying the same thing.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:17 PM (VP1E6)

171 Chicken Parmigiana

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (jm1YL)

172 Illegals, they were sucking the Koch jobs out.

Posted by: ThePaolo at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (DuZls)

173 I shall now contemplate the origin of the word Barrel, about which I have no theory.

Hey, whose army and horses farted in here?

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (fuK7c)

174 OOF! Caught me off guard!
Posted by: Insomniac

That's what the protective cup is for.

Posted by: Coach Miklos at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (QzkSJ)

175 I've watched a gang of Hispanics putting the roof on my neighbor's house. They start early and work late. They work like maniacs all day in the hot sun. 

You probably could get Americans to do that job, but you'd have to pay a lot more, and their productivity would be a lot lower. We need to be realistic about the tradeoffs. 
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:07 PM (T6t7i) 

I've done that job myself as well as tearing down buildings.

How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built without Mexicans?

Yes you have to pay them a decent wage because they aren't taking it back to Mexico with them. They actually have to live here and pay their way with it.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (ltuaO)

176 if I had to hire a crew with my money, I'd pick the Hispanic one, all
other things being equal (i.e. legality). They work a lot harder. Just
being American doesn't make you automatically better. That's how we got
the UAW.

Fast and half-assed beats slow and half-assed. I have to say, though, I've never been so pissed as when I saw some REALLY botched wiring by a Hispanic crew that was perfectly acceptable the day before. We're talking could easily burn the house down botched.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (9t0Zz)

177 Let's hire people who cut corners to come here because they won't cut corners in their work. Makes sense.

Posted by: Cat Ass Trophy at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (dNzKv)

178 There isn't a day goes by that the human race proves to me once again how incredibly stupid some people are. Just had to throw that out there because today was a day! I tell ya!

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (dUJdY)

179 Important chicken fact #1, Never scare a chicken when you kill it. They have an adrenalin response that tightens all the feathers and make them harder to pluck.

Whisper sweet nothings in their ear as you quickly snap their neck.

I'm an old chicken plucker from way back.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (cZUj+)

180 I've seen plenty of non-Hispanic work crews work their asses off. Not buying the BS implication that Hispanics somehow have a better work ethic.



Why would they theoretically work harder, I wonder...

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (KeRzR)

181 Hey, whose army and horses farted in here? Posted by: Bandersnatch at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (fuK7c)

I didn't know grues smelled like horses.

Posted by: pookysgirl is now gainfully employed at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (XKZwp)

182 ''I'm an old chicken plucker from way back.
Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (cZUj+)''

The Chicken Whisperer

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 06:20 PM (jm1YL)

183 I recently learnt that "Paolo" comes from Dante's Inferno


These discussion of Dante's Purgatory go on forever.

Posted by: Prof. Miklos, and no you can't buy some pot from me at August 19, 2019 06:20 PM (QzkSJ)

184 Ever been to Mexico?


The place is a shithole
Posted by: Yo! at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (1XAal)


You just lack the ability to recognize the work product of highly skilled and motivated tradesmen.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (1g7ch)

185 179 There isn't a day goes by that the human race proves to me once again how incredibly stupid some people are. Just had to throw that out there because today was a day! I tell ya!
Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 06:19 PM (dUJdY)

You need some fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, and green beans with ham, Jewells... some comforting food....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (6QfxY)

186 How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built without Mexicans?

If you know of a supply of Americans, circa 1900, let me know, and I'll hire them in a heartbeat.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (T6t7i)

187 Shoot, just getting an initial phone call was darn near impossible for me. I've pretty much given up.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at August 19, 2019 06:20 PM (+sqcE)


My resume lost a page and now starts in 2002. I'll let you know how it goes.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (t+qrx)

188 Here is an irony...my white husband just started a job today for an Indian Tech company; dot not feather.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 19, 2019 06:22 PM (UUBmN)

189 Ever been to Mexico?


The place is a shithole
Posted by: Yo! at August 19, 2019 06:14 PM (1XAal)


You just lack the ability to recognize the work product of highly skilled and motivated tradesmen.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (1g7ch)

They're so talented they leave beams sticking out of the roofs of buildings so they can build more floors later.

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 06:22 PM (tVQUs)

190 188 How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built without Mexicans?

If you know of a supply of Americans, circa 1900, let me know, and I'll hire them in a heartbeat.
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (T6t7i)



I get that, pep, but like I said, if something rewards less and pays off less, you get less of it.

Perhaps some REAL "Welfare reform" is in order?

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (ujg0T)

191 > Inference: they had an internal H1B candidate, and were merely advertising to say they couldn't any American qualified.

At Big U where I used to work, it was considered wise to ask in an informal and off the record manner whether they already had someone in mind for a position before going to the trouble of polishing the ol' C.V. and references.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (b1Typ)

192 lin-duh, Congratulations to Hubby/You.

Posted by: Ben Had at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (cZUj+)

193 I hope the owners and management go to jail for a nice long time.

Posted by: alexthechick - Ragebunny. Hopping all around. at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (GbPPJ)

194 They're so talented they leave beams sticking out of the roofs of buildings so they can build more floors later.
Posted by: Surfperch

Rebar.

Mexico is the land of exposed rebar.

Posted by: Miklos, man of Steel at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (QzkSJ)

195 They're so talented they leave beams sticking out of the roofs of buildings so they can build more floors later.

That's actually a tax dodge.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (gHCnG)

196 I recently learnt that "Paolo" comes from Dante's Inferno


How so? Paolo (It) is Paulo (Brz) is Pablo (Mex) is Paulus (Lat) is Paul, that wretched little gnome who used to be Saul and then got all SJW scoldy.

There had to be a name for Paul in Italian before Dante.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (fuK7c)

197 To the consumer, there is little difference in the job bid from contractor #1 who employs illegal aliens and contractor #2 who employs American citizens. Both groups work equally hard and do a similar quality job. The difference is the contractor pays the illegals less and doesn't pay payroll and other taxes; effectively pocketing that money as extra profit.

Posted by: Archer at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (gmo/4)

198

Wonder what the turnover rate will be?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (aKsyK)

199 189 Shoot, just getting an initial phone call was darn near impossible for me. I've pretty much given up.
Posted by: Emperor Country Boy at August 19, 2019 06:20 PM (+sqcE)

My resume lost a page and now starts in 2002. I'll let you know how it goes.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:21 PM (t+qrx)

Ugh. I've been trying to swim against that particular current for a while now myself. Sucks donkey balls, it does.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (NWiLs)

200 I dunno, Amish put a steel roof on Chateau D'Eez around 3 years ago - lowest bid for the job, worked dawn to past dusk for 3 days.
Second day they had to sweep almost a foot of snow off the roof before they stared work.
Awesome workers, genuine work ethic, hard to beat.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (XNDy+)

201 They're so talented they leave beams sticking out of the roofs of buildings so they can build more floors later.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 06:22 PM (tVQUs)


Completed buildings are taxed higher.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (t+qrx)

202 "Shoot, just getting an initial phone call was darn near impossible for me. I've pretty much given up."

Now you know the root of my intense, unceasing anger. I admit I haven't tried in the current job market, rumored to be a buyer's market. But f*ck them all anyway, the LIARS and sh!theads. I'll live off their FICA contributions.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (mk9aG)

203 Perhaps some REAL "Welfare reform" is in order?

Along with some major reductions in the cost and complexity of governmental rule and regulations. Major. Reductions.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (HaL55)

204 181
I've seen plenty of non-Hispanic work crews work their asses off. Not
buying the BS implication that Hispanics somehow have a better work
ethic.


Sure, but at some point you've collected enough data to reach a conclusion. I'm not making any implications, I'm reporting outright what I have seen.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:24 PM (T6t7i)

205 196 They're so talented they leave beams sticking out of the roofs of buildings so they can build more floors later.
Posted by: Surfperch

Rebar.

Mexico is the land of exposed rebar.
Posted by: Miklos, man of Steel at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (QzkSJ)

I think it has something to do with gaming the property taxes there.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:25 PM (NWiLs)

206 How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built
without Mexicans?

Sometimes I wonder if the documented fact that Testosterone has been decreasing in each generation of first world born men has anything to do with fewer first world guys working hard physical labor.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:25 PM (9t0Zz)

207 Jussie Smollett Is Back And He's Contemplating Suing The City Of Chicago

-
That's what he says but can you believe him?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:26 PM (+y/Ru)

208 >>How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built
without Mexicans?


I know, right?
And now Pelosi, AOC and others lecture us that they're 'more American than American citizens.'

Posted by: Lizzy at August 19, 2019 06:27 PM (bDqIh)

209 My resume lost a page and now starts in 2002

I did that after the big Microsoft shift to .NET, in my 2007 job-search. I pretended I'd not even heard of VB3-6 and that my career started 2000ish doing SQL stuff.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2019 06:27 PM (ykYG2)

210 Yes you have to pay them a decent wage because they aren't taking it back to Mexico with them. They actually have to live here and pay their way with it.
Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:18 PM (ltuaO)


With taxes and labor burden at more than 50% of wage rate you can pay an illegal cash, pocket the burden, and he doesn't pay tax.

It is a win-win.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 06:27 PM (1g7ch)

211 I get that, pep, but like I said, if something rewards less and pays off less, you get less of it.



Perhaps some REAL "Welfare reform" is in order?


That's certainly true, but it's a different issue.

BTW, I have taken a hit from immigrant competition. The salaries for American scientists would be a lot higher if it weren't for the competition from desperate foreign postdocs who want to stay in the country. That doesn't prevent me from acknowledging that America does get benefits from having lots of smart people come here. There are pros and cons; I refuse to pretend otherwise.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:27 PM (T6t7i)

212 My husband was out of work for over 2 years. Pretty much gave up over a year ago. He is over 29 and a white male.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 19, 2019 06:27 PM (UUBmN)

213 Jussie Smollett Is Back And He's Contemplating Suing The City Of Chicago

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That's what he says but can you believe him?
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks

His lawyers are two unidentified white guys with MAGA caps.

Posted by: Miklos, heard it here first at August 19, 2019 06:28 PM (QzkSJ)

214 Shit. Chicken prices are already up 10 cents a pound and chicken now contains 43 percent water!

Posted by: Undocumented at August 19, 2019 06:28 PM (GNk5/)

215 You need some fried chicken, mashed potatoes and gravy, and green beans with ham, Jewells... some comforting food....

Yes.. that sounds so good right now. Settling for leftover spaghetti and meatballs. Not complaining. My spaghetti and meatballs are almost world famous.

Posted by: Jewells45 at August 19, 2019 06:28 PM (dUJdY)

216 Jussie Smollett Is Back And He's Contemplating Suing The City Of Chicago

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Forget it, Jussie... This is Bleachtown.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 06:28 PM (AzW6q)

217 209
How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built
without Mexicans?
Sometimes
I wonder if the documented fact that Testosterone has been decreasing
in each generation of first world born men has anything to do with fewer
first world guys working hard physical labor.


Posted by: bonhomme


You beat me to the punch. I think that is a very real factor.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:28 PM (T6t7i)

218 I did that after the big Microsoft shift to .NET, in my 2007 job-search.
I pretended I'd not even heard of VB3-6 and that my career started
2000ish doing SQL stuff.

I had a hiring manager angrily ask me why I had VB 6 on my resume in 2006. I sheepishly took it off.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (9t0Zz)

219 BNL NEWS @BreakingNLive
BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (BqBId)

220 Bander : I meant Paolo as how we use that term here, for the archetypal wifebanger.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (ykYG2)

221 They can't find Americans for their jobs and it's all just a coincidence those foreigners are cheeper.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (BbGew)

222
Posted by: bonhomme

You beat me to the punch. I think that is a very real factor.


Or possibly that there are enough estrogen simulants in the environment now that our males aren't capable of it.

Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (T6t7i)

223 Imagine that if jobs are available at a decent wage with benefits Americans will apply for them. It's almost as if the theory of "supply and demand" is actually true. Go Trump MAGA!

Posted by: Kenny The G from AZ at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (0VhWt)

224 How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built without Mexicans?


"SLAVERY!11!1!! YOU RACISTISTY RACIST!!11!"

- each and every SJW everywhere.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (HaL55)

225 That's certainly true, but it's a different issue.

BTW, I have taken a hit from immigrant competition. The salaries for American scientists would be a lot higher if it weren't for the competition from desperate foreign postdocs who want to stay in the country. That doesn't prevent me from acknowledging that America does get benefits from having lots of smart people come here. There are pros and cons; I refuse to pretend otherwise.
Posted by: pep at August 19, 2019 06:27 PM (T6t7i)



You are absolutely correct that there are pros and cons with immigration. I would merely argue that the big argument against more of it, namely, a lack of cultural cohesion, is becoming more and more apparent year after year.

And I think it outweighs any advantages now.

Posted by: Curmudgeon at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (ujg0T)

226 How did Poland, Japan, and the historic United States ever get built
without Mexicans?

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Polacks and Irish. I don't know about Japan. Burakumin? /s

Posted by: Undocumented at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (GNk5/)

227 The fundemental problem is not this plant or several.


The whole system is rigged against Americans.


It should be impossible to operate in this country if you are here illegally.


But not only do they operate laregely without many impediments but they have armies of politicians and groups that support them and cater to them.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (3hxXM)

228 Forget it, Jussie... This is Bleachtown.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 06:28 PM (AzW6q)
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MAGA Country!

Posted by: Two Nigerians at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (DuZls)

229 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.

Well, there's goes the google copies of Hillary's emails. ...with a cloth.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (gHCnG)

230 I think it has something to do with gaming the property taxes there.

Posted by: Insomniac


That is certainly the case on some Caribbean islands.

Make concrete houses since they're hurricane-proof.

Leave rebar on top "so it'll be connected well when we add the next floor".

Never add the next floor.

Pay the lower taxes due on an incomplete property. Forever. Or until the rebar rusts off.

Mexico could be the same.

Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (P1f+c)

231 Mexico is the land of exposed rebar.
Posted by: Miklos, man of Steel at August 19, 2019 06:23 PM (QzkSJ)



Hold my San Miguel.

Posted by: The Philippines at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (Vy7tf)

232 "Shoot, just getting an initial phone call was darn near impossible for me. I've pretty much given up."

I did do a three week stint as a cashier in a convenience store. I got so fed up with a-hole customers stealing, and taunting me, I was ready to start injuring some of them. I decided it was better to quit.

There was a thing in carnivals a hundred years ago. They'd have a guy stick his head thru a hole in a wall, and charge people two bits to throw baseballs at his head. That is what convenience store cashier job is like.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (mk9aG)

233 I meant Paolo as how we use that term here, for the archetypal wifebanger.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo



Ah.

Dunno. Ace may be a better poet than Dante Alighieri.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (fuK7c)

234 My husband was out of work for over 2 years. Pretty much gave up over a year ago. He is over 29 and a white male.
What's his general work experience?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:31 PM (9t0Zz)

235
Chicken prices are already up 10 cents a pound and chicken now contains 43 percent water!
Posted by: Undocumented


Chicken of the sea

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2019 06:31 PM (aKsyK)

236 I really liked the idea that is was THE Kock brothers, but six of one, six hundred foreigners of the other ... same difference.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 19, 2019 06:31 PM (Cus5s)

237 Bander : I meant Paolo as how we use that term here, for the archetypal wifebanger.
Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (ykYG2)
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I bang the girlfriends too.

Posted by: The Paolo at August 19, 2019 06:31 PM (DuZls)

238
Why's ECB gettin' nuked? He was just talking about his job search...

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 06:32 PM (AzW6q)

239 http://bit.ly/2KQFvmU
*********
Buddy Rich's Incredible Tonight Show Drum Solos - YouTube
*********
Buddy Rich for all you youngins of the Horde persuasion

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:32 PM (BqBId)

240 I dislike bringing up criticism of Trump because he doesn't really need people on his side even bringing up constructive criticism in light of the over the top he gets from the Left.

That said , since we are talking about illegal immigrant employers, his commutation of Rubashkin pissed me off.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 06:32 PM (2DOZq)

241 Let's hope google burns to the ground.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2019 06:32 PM (oVJmc)

242 I recently learnt that "Paolo" comes from Dante's Inferno - Paolo Malatesta. That Paolo is stuck in Circle Two with Mrs Francesca Malatesta

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Only the Second Circle? He wasn't doing it right!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:33 PM (+y/Ru)

243 It should be impossible to operate in this country if you are here illegally.


But not only do they operate laregely without many impediments but they have armies of politicians and groups that support them and cater to them.
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (3hxXM)

I personally know of a Honduran that entered illegally and got a job at a University. 'Got hurt'. Got a 40 grand payday. Returned to Honduras.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 06:33 PM (Vy7tf)

244 "I had a hiring manager angrily ask me why I had VB 6 on my resume in 2006."

They made me take ALL the dates off my work history. You see, I made the GIANT mistake of working all my f*cking life, and the people who "read" resumes don't like that for some reason.

They also get super pissed off if the paper you printed your resume on does not meet their f*cking high standards, the motherf*ckers!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:33 PM (mk9aG)

245 "241 Let's hope google burns to the ground.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2019 06:32 PM (oVJmc) "



"Permanent Outage".

I like it.

Posted by: sock_rat_eez at August 19, 2019 06:33 PM (XNDy+)

246 @239

Karen Carpenter was a better drummer than Buddy Rich.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 19, 2019 06:33 PM (3hxXM)

247 >>>> BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.

And yet my searches for fit "country/ethnicity" nude women is still working while I post.

Posted by: reasons to train at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (QwmrN)

248 In my orientation today, I was there with two others that will also be in my husband's department. And they're taking anyone with a pulse, even if they quit, because they'll still get work done. Plus they upped the starting wage by two dollars, which hleps a lot. It is definitely a worker's market around here. 

Posted by: pookysgirl is now gainfully employed at August 19, 2019 06:15 PM (XKZwp)

That's good to hear.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (ltuaO)

249 I had a hiring manager angrily ask me why I had VB 6 on my resume in 2006. I sheepishly took it off.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:29 PM (9t0Zz)


And then you hear back that they really need someone who can convert all their old VB6 libraries to Python, so they're looking for someone with VB6 experience.

Or sorry, we're really looking for someone who can do Powershell scripting, but all you have is this 15 years of Perl which, whatever that is, couldn't possibly be relevant.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (t+qrx)

250 If corporations are keeping American citizens out of jobs to go after the cheaper supply of foreigners, I just became a little more anti-corporate.

Posted by: Axeman at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (DuZls)

251 I think it has something to do with gaming the property taxes there.

Posted by: Insomniac

That is certainly the case on some Caribbean islands.

Make concrete houses since they're hurricane-proof.

Leave rebar on top "so it'll be connected well when we add the next floor".

Never add the next floor.

Pay the lower taxes due on an incomplete property. Forever. Or until the rebar rusts off.

Mexico could be the same.
Posted by: mikeski at August 19, 2019 06:30 PM (P1f+c)

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Maybe lower taxes in Mexico but probably just going to be finished manana. Property taxes for houses are pretty damned low there already.

Posted by: Undocumented at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (GNk5/)

252 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.
Google has so much infrastructure and has so many people making sure they're up all the time, this is a really big deal.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (9t0Zz)

253 Lin-duh, congrats to you and your handsome man!!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (Y4EXg)

254 They also get super pissed off if the paper you printed your resume on does not meet their f*cking high standards, the motherf*ckers!


Paper? Print? I haven't handed anyone a tangible resume in 30 years (and no, I'm not one of those guys who's had a steady job the whole time).

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:35 PM (fuK7c)

255 So the Koch brothers take advantage of illegals so they don't have to pay Americans better wages and benefits. They just all around great guys!/s

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2019 06:35 PM (+0VWg)

256 244
"I had a hiring manager angrily ask me why I had VB 6 on my resume in 2006."



They made me take ALL the dates off my work history. You see, I
made the GIANT mistake of working all my f*cking life, and the people
who "read" resumes don't like that for some reason.


i hear that all the hot resumes these days are loaded up with emoji and those cartoon avatars of yourself you can create for instagram.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 19, 2019 06:35 PM (sGtp+)

257 Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:35 PM (fuK7c)

OT-Did you ever get a realtor to call you back?

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2019 06:36 PM (+0VWg)

258 Buddy Rich for all you youngins of the Horde persuasion

I actually liked Gene Krupa better, but Buddy Rich was amazing

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2019 06:36 PM (KZzsI)

259 i hear that all the hot resumes these days are loaded up with emoji and those cartoon avatars of yourself you can create for instagram.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 19, 2019 06:35 PM (sGtp+)
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Resume tip: Don't use the poo emoji.

Posted by: Axeman at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (DuZls)

260 Having trouble passing?
Just can't seem to achieve that Anglo look?

What you need it some lightening cream.

Qraa Namaya Intimate Lightening Serum

Here: http://tinyurl.com/y54ph6ww

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (AfYvi)

261 I just became a little more anti-corporate.

Posted by: Axeman at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (DuZls)

Exactly.

A lot of those corporations are no different in approach or mentality from big government.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (ltuaO)

262 So the Koch brothers take advantage of illegals so they don't have to pay Americans better wages and benefits. They just all around great guys!/s


You know who doesn't experience 'downward wage pressure?'

Government workers.

Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (oVJmc)

263 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.
Google has so much infrastructure and has so many people making sure they're up all the time, this is a really big deal.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (9t0Zz)


You lay in bed with the Chinese, you're going to get Kung Pao'd at some point.

Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (m4x2V)

264 "I had a hiring manager angrily ask me why I had VB 6 on my resume in 2006."

Resumes are funny. There's a MILLION people out there who claim to be experts on how to create a winning resume, yet they ALL give different advice. It's a f*cking racket.

I had one "expert" rearrange all the text on my resume to put the text on the sides of the paper. Sure-fire technique, she assured me.

Is it in France where you get professional jobs by taking skill tests, instead of schmoozing and sucking up? Sounds good to me.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (mk9aG)

265 239, amazing video. I had forgotten how incredibly talented and practiced Rich was.

Posted by: Jen the original at August 19, 2019 06:37 PM (6rjhq)

266 Resume tip: Don't use the poo emoji.
Posted by: Axeman


and ask you how you know?

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (gHCnG)

267 So the Koch brothers take advantage of illegals


Do note that the first thing ace said was it's not those Koch brothers.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (fuK7c)

268 Don't use the poo emoji

How'm I supposed to sign my name then??

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (ykYG2)

269 http://bit.ly/2MnPLX7
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REPORT: Obama Repeatedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (BqBId)

270
Imagine that if jobs are available at a decent wage with benefits
Americans will apply for them. It's almost as if the theory of "supply
and demand" is actually true. Go Trump MAGA!


I'm not against making money, but there's such a thing as "pricing yourself out of the market." With CEO's asking and getting astronomical compensation packages, there's a lot of incentive to keep the costs of the rank-and-file employees way down so they'll keep getting their handsome salaries. Hence the attraction of illegals who'll work for peanuts. Inventive accountants can disguise those costs a Brazillion different ways, furthering the attraction of underhanded business practices.

Not wanting to pay your employees well is just plain old greed. None of those greedy assholes ever stop to think how they'd like it if that was done to them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (HaL55)

271 Dr.s advice on cucumber cleansing from NY Post:

http://tinyurl.com/yxu6q3k4

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (AfYvi)

272 I personally know of a Honduran that entered illegally and got a job at a University. 'Got hurt'. Got a 40 grand payday. Returned to Honduras.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 06:33 PM (Vy7tf)

I handle California Workers Comp claims. I have a million of those stories and worse.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (2DOZq)

273 My husband was out of work for over 2 years. Pretty much gave up over a year ago. He is over 29 and a white male.
What's his general work experience?
Posted by: bonhomme
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Software developer, senior level. 20+ years experience at 3 companies so a stable work history.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (UUBmN)

274 You know who doesn't experience 'downward wage pressure?'



Government workers.

Well, some gov't workers don't get raises that put them ahead of inflation. In that sense they can experience downward wage pressure.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:38 PM (9t0Zz)

275 http://bit.ly/2MqBitf
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Federal Judge Orders FBI to Search For Steele Documents as Christopher Wray Fights to Protect Hillary Clinton and Spygate Coup Cabal

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (BqBId)

276 Thanks, Fen. I've talked to people and seen places but I'm still homeless.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (fuK7c)

277 >>Don't use the poo emoji

unless it's a plumber job.

Posted by: Roy at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (ABjxW)

278 Most roofers are piece workers.

Posted by: Wise Cracker at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (XT6Vl)

279 The smartest thing I've done, with the possible exception of tricking WeaselWoman in to marrying me, is to not screw up my work gig. Been there 35 years now.

Posted by: Weasel at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (3/7eb)

280 I didn't know grues smelled like horses.
Posted by: pookysgirl is now gainfully employed


At a certain size they do develop that bouquet.

Not when they're little, but after they've grue some.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2019 06:40 PM (Ftimv)

281 REPORT: Obama Repeatedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President

He stutters, does our stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:40 PM (gHCnG)

282 The Koch's raise chickens?


Posted by: Surfperch
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This the New Koch, not the old Koch.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2019 06:40 PM (vfOIM)

283 ''You lay in bed with the Chinese, you're going to get Kung Pao'd at some point.''

I see what you did.. chicken thread..Kung Pao Chicken. Who says Morons are stupid?

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 06:40 PM (jm1YL)

284 Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2019 06:36 PM (KZzsI)
*******
Krupa was very good too, He had 1 famous Pupil that I know of, Anyone know who it was without cheating ?

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:40 PM (BqBId)

285 263 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.
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Is that why I've been getting all these weird search results?

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (AfYvi)

286 Maybe lower taxes in Mexico but probably just going to be finished manana. Property taxes for houses are pretty damned low there already.
Posted by: Undocumented at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (GNk5/)

Nah, its the same as the Philippines. They dream big with a limited budget. Workers milk the job. Job never finished. Budgets NEVER seem to include paint.

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (Vy7tf)

287 Not wanting to pay your employees well is just plain old greed.

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That is an old criticism of capitalism.

Posted by: Undocumented at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (GNk5/)

288 Most roofers are piece workers.


I've done roofing hourly. Also carpentry and construction.

It turns out that knowing how to use tools isn't enough. Real tradesmen are really good at stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (fuK7c)

289 Mexicans are hard workers if you give them a 15 minute break with a sombrero and a cactus to lean on.

Posted by: wth at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (v0R5T)

290 Federal Judge Orders FBI to Search For Steele Documents as Christopher Wray Fights to Protect Hillary Clinton and Spygate Coup Cabal

Can't, boss. Google's down!

Posted by: Gold-Plated FBI Workers at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (gHCnG)

291 Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (fuK7c)

And your moving date in this week and school starts after Labor Day? Are there any extended stay placess in that part of NJ?

Also, I think the idea of checking out PA is a good one.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (+0VWg)

292 The whole job thing gets me down. I know it's early but I was hoping I'd get plugged in by now. Just several false starts. And the other gig might as well not even exist at this point.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:42 PM (NWiLs)

293 "Paper? Print? I haven't handed anyone a tangible resume in 30 years (and no, I'm not one of those guys who's had a steady job the whole time)."

So at job fairs, you hand them a thumb drive? Give them an FTP address? Go apply for a job; when they ask for a paper resume, and you tell them you didn't bring one, I'll bet that goes over real good.

Not that they even bother to READ the damn things.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:42 PM (mk9aG)

294 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.

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Google shoved so much BS down the internet's throat it finally threw up.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:42 PM (+y/Ru)

295 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.
..........

Government employees searching porn sites hardest hit.

Posted by: wth at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (v0R5T)

296 Software developer, senior level. 20+ years experience at 3 companies so a stable work history.
Is he in a good region for jobs? Around here in Seattle my company can't get good developers to apply for jobs even for $145,000 + great benefits. We keep getting scrubs who have no idea what they're doing.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (9t0Zz)

297 280 I didn't know grues smelled like horses.
Posted by: pookysgirl is now gainfully employed

At a certain size they do develop that bouquet.

Not when they're little, but after they've grue some.
Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 19, 2019 06:40 PM (Ftimv)

It is pitch dark. You are likely to be eaten by a grue.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (NWiLs)

298 "Software developer, senior level. 20+ years experience at 3 companies so a stable work history."

AHA!! Unlikable!!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (mk9aG)

299 Nah, its the same as the Philippines. They dream big with a limited budget. Workers milk the job. Job never finished. Budgets NEVER seem to include paint.
Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (Vy7tf)


On the flip side, only having the budget for one floor now but having capability to easily add a floor...

...

I denounce myself

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (1g7ch)

300 Not that they even bother to READ the damn things.
Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:42 PM (mk9aG)

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They must get a page bounty.

Posted by: Undocumented at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (GNk5/)

301 Lizzy Warren on TV apologizing to the injuns.

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 06:43 PM (Tnijr)

302 BREAKING: Massive Google outage reported across the U.S.
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Probably a result of Chinese food and MSG. Ran out of energy.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2019 06:44 PM (vfOIM)

303 I'm a Beltway Bandit (Fed contractor). I average a new job every 10 years. Various reasons. Last time is they moved my job on the wrong side of the Beltway. This time around, the Secret Squirrels picked the lowest bidder for the contract and promptly slashed salaries. There is a mass exodous going on and I'm part of it. Got some interviews later this week. Hopefully I'll be out of here soon. It's going to be an Epic Mess next month. Nice going Secret Squirrels, dumb asses.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 19, 2019 06:44 PM (Qt2ya)

304
I've done roofing hourly. Also carpentry and construction.
It turns out that knowing how to use tools isn't enough. Real tradesmen are really good at stuff.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:41 PM (fuK7c)

I have too. I'm talking about Mexican Roofers. They re mostly piece workers. That's why you see them working long hours.

Posted by: Wise Cracker at August 19, 2019 06:44 PM (XT6Vl)

305 "The whole job thing gets me down." It drives me to incandescent, coruscating anger. The f*cking LIARS!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:44 PM (mk9aG)

306 56 E-verify is voluntary, unless business has contract with Fed's correct?
Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 05:59 PM (Dhht7)

Not in Alabama, the state this plant is located in:

https://verify.alabama.gov


Not sure what happened here. Either the workers were able to get a solid enough stolen identify to get past E-verify (I saw one report where HR people would tell people to "come back with better documents") or the managers were not following the State law.

Posted by: Serious Cat at August 19, 2019 06:45 PM (Xqo6t)

307 Obama Repeatedly Tried To Talk Biden Out Of Running For President
With friends like Obama, who needs enemies? Of all the people to badmouth, why would Obama attack Biden? Biden was a loyal toadie to that tool.
Not that I'm complaining. I think it's hilarious.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:46 PM (9t0Zz)

308 Lizzy Warren on TV apologizing to the injuns.

Might have been better to apologize to them before she started pandering to them. I guess she thinks she has a good chance at the nomination now, so needs to sweep the whole "dishonestly injun" thing under the rug.

Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 19, 2019 06:46 PM (+0VWg)

309 Why does Chris Wray still have a job?

I'm thinking PDT just needs to keep replacing FBI directors once a month til he finds one who'll work for him.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 06:46 PM (nPvDn)

310 Lizzy Warren on TV apologizing to the injuns.
Posted by: freaked
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Will she apologize for being white? Apologize for *not* being an Indian? Refuse to apologize for being a woman?

The possibilities are endless.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2019 06:46 PM (vfOIM)

311 ''Might have been better to apologize to them before she started pandering to them. I guess she thinks she has a good chance at the nomination now, so needs to sweep the whole "dishonestly injun" thing under the rug.''

Well good luck with that. PDT will never let her forget it.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 06:47 PM (jm1YL)

312 Lizzy Warren on TV apologizing to the injuns.

As a token of peace, I offer you this blanket...

Posted by: Fauxcahontas at August 19, 2019 06:47 PM (gHCnG)

313 Krupa was very good too, He had 1 famous Pupil that I know of, Anyone know who it was without cheating ?

No idea. We have a disc with Gene and Buddy playing a show together, lots of dueling going on. Buddy Rich has a more explosive, exciting style, but Krupa is more musical and has more intricate, difficult rhythms.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2019 06:47 PM (KZzsI)

314 O/T

Andy Ngo put himself in the eye of the storm again in Portland. Daily Wire has so much footage not just from him, but others.


Horrifying and rage inducing, but Tim Wheeler tweeted out that he and his wife had a lovely day at the market.

I can't even anymore.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (ptqGC)

315 And THEN they carp about not enough American youth studying STEM.

STEM is a tough row to hoe; I advised my sons against going into it myself.

The coursework is demanding - much more so than any other subject, I suspect - and the job prospects are limited. Academic positions are difficult to come by, and industrial positions hit an armor-plated ceiling after a while.*

One problem I saw in industry was that business guys know eff-all about STEM, and default to credentialism. As a consequence of that, and being generally pretty dull, they consider all Ph.D.s for example to be equivalent, and a brand-new Ph.D., who comes a lot cheaper, looks to them like a better bet than those with more experience. Would they prefer having a surgery performed by a brand-new MD, or by someone who's done surgery for many years? The answer is obvious, but they're generally not bright enough to think of that.

I used to have to fight pressure from the business guys to replace older scientists (and by older, I mean 40ish) with 20ish ones. Madness.

* Here's your calibration: business guys in a big corporation used to disdain scientists for top management because "they're too narrow." At the same time they used to worship Jack Welch as their model. He was God, as far as they were concerned.

"Oh, you mean DR. Jack Welch? That one?"

They looked puzzled. Jack Welch has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering, but everyone has something to hide, and he certainly hid that effectively.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (heaSb)

316 Turns out the only job Americans won't do that we need immigrants for is voting Democrat.

Posted by: Lamont Cranston at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (hnZzr)

317 I've talked to people and seen places but I'm still homeless.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (fuK7c)

Well, then sleep in a dumpster behind a bar so i can buy you a beer.

When are you moving?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (wYseH)

318 Work!!!???

Posted by: Zombie Maynard G Krebs at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (yhYmR)

319 And now I'm off to make oven-baked harissa chicken.

Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (ptqGC)

320
I know damn well my former company has been pushing older employees out the door. Senior people with decades of experience. But when you're packaging yourself to be taken over and broken up it's important to have a Global Diversity and Inclusion manager.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2019 06:49 PM (Wx/+I)

321 I'm trying to retire early and putting things in place . I'm fortunate that I have no debt and no one that I'm financially responsible for except myself. Health insurance of course is the issue that has to be solved.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 06:49 PM (2DOZq)

322 Lizzy speak forked tongue.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 19, 2019 06:49 PM (yhYmR)

323 Gene Krupa's famous student was Peter Criss Of KISS

Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:49 PM (BqBId)

324 Pete King bravely cornholes the constitution!

First Republican signs on to assault weapons ban...

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (+y/Ru)

325 bonhomme,
We are in Austin. His problem was being over 50. This is a young, hip town.

Posted by: lin-duh at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (UUBmN)

326 Another thing I LOVE about job interviewers is that they think they are world-experts on body language, facial expressions, Myers-Briggs, and a bunch of other superstitious hoo-hah.

Power-tripping lying c*cksuckers, every one of them. They just like watching desperate people suffer and jump thru their f*cking hoops.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (mk9aG)

327 "Will she apologize for being white? "

I imagine she did. Marianne too.

"Your people will be lifted to the level of partnership that takes us beyond the dominator model of history that white Europeans brought to this continent to begin with.
I will apologize and I will ask your forgiveness, and I will ask you to join in a new era of American history as partners  on this sacred land

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (Tnijr)

328 312 Lizzy Warren on TV apologizing to the injuns


Did she bury the hatchet?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (Vy7tf)

329
Ace is aboot to hatch a nood.

Posted by: Soothsayer Fake Commenter at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (YX8r9)

330 Tim Wheeler tweeted out that he and his wife had a lovely day at the market.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (ptqGC)


...who?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (t+qrx)

331 Pete King bravely cornholes the constitution!

First Republican signs on to assault weapons ban...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (+y/Ru)

Who's he?

Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (tVQUs)

332 Turns out Martian soil is highly, highly toxic. You couldn't grow fucking potatoes on it and eat them. This means the idea of colonizing Mars becomes much more problematic.

Posted by: Max Power at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (q177U)

333 With CEO's asking and getting astronomical compensation packages, there's a lot of incentive to keep the costs of the rank-and-file employees way down so they'll keep getting their handsome salaries.

Not wanting to pay your employees well is just plain old greed. None of those greedy assholes ever stop to think how they'd like it if that was done to them.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 06:38


I get your point, BB. But my understanding is the engine that runs the economy is small biz. I dunno know. As a small biz owner I'd like to pay my employees more, but not until I've paid the banker, ma bell, and utilities. Can't pay employees if note's called and utils are turned off.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (Dhht7)

334 I'm trying to retire early and putting things in place . I'm fortunate that I have no debt and no one that I'm financially responsible for except myself. Health insurance of course is the issue that has to be solved.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
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Pfft. Renounce your citizenship, emigrate to Mexico, slip back across the border, claim asylum, Bob's yer uncle.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (vfOIM)

335 Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (Tnijr)

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I appreciate you renaming Shapiro "Baby Snark."

Perfect.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (nPvDn)

336 324 Pete King bravely cornholes the constitution!

First Republican signs on to assault weapons ban...
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 06:50 PM (+y/Ru)

You called King a Republican.

Huh. uhuhuhuh. huhuhuh. huh. huh...

Posted by: Roy at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (ABjxW)

337 Was the business held accountable? (fined?)

Posted by: socalcon at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (Roy2Z)

338 At the same time they used to worship Jack Welch as their model.

I have a problem with Jack Welch that may be unfair to Jack Welch.

My beautiful sparky internet company got taken over by a Spanish Telco and ground into the dirt. The grinder was a Jack Welch devotee, he had been something at GE Europe, named Joaquim Agut, a Catalan.

I hate him so much that I now hate Jack Welch and Catalonia by extension.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (fuK7c)

339 http://bit.ly/2MqBitf
********
Federal Judge Orders FBI to Search For Steele Documents as Christopher Wray Fights to Protect Hillary Clinton and Spygate Coup Cabal
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 19, 2019 06:39 PM (BqBId)
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Steele's the one who chose to inject himself into our politics.

Posted by: Axeman at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (DuZls)

340 Totally off topic, but my cherry tomatoes are tasting like candy. Om, nom, nom....

Posted by: RedMindBlueState at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (rBtIz)

341 Today will be the day Mark Levin finally pops a blood vessel in his noggin.

He is so pissed about Tlaib and Omar and the fallout from their "Palestine" trip. The DemonRats are defending them and now saying they want IG investigations of the Ambassador from the US to Israel and Israel's ambassador to the US.

Ahhhh, the DemonRat Party. Once an AntiSemite Pig, Always an AntiSemite Pig.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 19, 2019 06:53 PM (S6rpg)

342 Jug Ears pick Slow Joe for that reason, don't want a higher profile sidekick, but he knows Slow Joe isn't Top Guy material and wants someone to beat Trump.

Posted by: Skip at August 19, 2019 06:53 PM (BbGew)

343 I hate him so much that I now hate Jack Welch and Catalonia by extension.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (fuK7c)

Yeah...but Barcelona is a rocking city with lots of hot women.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2019 06:53 PM (wYseH)

344 When are you moving?

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo



Pitchers and catchers report August 26.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:53 PM (fuK7c)

345 We are in Austin. His problem was being over 50. This is a young, hip town.
Has he tried applying to jobs outside of Austin? 20 years as a senior dev seems like someone who shouldn't be forced to give up the job search. Hopefully his experience isn't in a dead tech. Even if it is, you can find some pretty amazing positions if you're maintaining an end of life product for the right company. Like all the COBOL guys maintaining ancient code for banks.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 06:54 PM (9t0Zz)

346 Y'all are affirming my decision to tell corporate America to fuck off. I'll be signing a franchise agreement soon.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2019 06:54 PM (kTF2Z)

347 One problem I saw in industry was that business guys know eff-all about STEM, and default to credentialism. As a consequence of that, and being generally pretty dull, they consider all Ph.D.s for example to be equivalent, and a brand-new Ph.D., who comes a lot cheaper, looks to them like a better bet than those with more experience. Would they prefer having a surgery performed by a brand-new MD, or by someone who's done surgery for many years? The answer is obvious, but they're generally not bright enough to think of that.

I used to have to fight pressure from the business guys to replace older scientists (and by older, I mean 40ish) with 20ish ones. Madness.

* Here's your calibration: business guys in a big corporation used to disdain scientists for top management because "they're too narrow." At the same time they used to worship Jack Welch as their model. He was God, as far as they were concerned.

"Oh, you mean DR. Jack Welch? That one?"

They looked puzzled. Jack Welch has a Ph.D. in chemical engineering, but everyone has something to hide, and he certainly hid that effectively.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 19, 2019 06:48 PM (heaSb)


States have varying requirements for P.E. licensing.
One I like in its simple elegance requires being an Engineering Intern for 12 years before taking the exam.

A BS from ABET school counts for 8 years.
A MS from ABET school counts for 1 year.
PhD counts for zero.

Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 19, 2019 06:55 PM (1g7ch)

348 332 Turns out Martian soil is highly, highly toxic. You couldn't grow fucking potatoes on it and eat them. This means the idea of colonizing Mars becomes much more problematic.
Posted by: Max Power at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (q177U)

Yep.... the whole planet is inimical to human life... and always will be, looks like..... the only possibility would be a subterranean cave life.... with imported... everything, nearly..... good place for the Woke Crowd, methinks.....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:55 PM (bCLt0)

349 Pitchers and catchers report August 26.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:53 PM (fuK7c)

Check to the north...maybe around Riverdale. It's about 35 minutes and It's got a fair number of apartment buildings.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2019 06:55 PM (wYseH)

350 "Baby Snark."

it cracks me up to hear his voice in the radio now. And I thought Levin was bad. Sheez

Posted by: freaked at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (Tnijr)

351 @308

The larger problem is who the GOP will allow to get confirmed.

The GOP will not allow anyone who will be a true ally to Trump and expose the Deep State.


Which is why he was saddled with Wray.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (3hxXM)

352 I've never been to Barcelona. I've never heard anything but ecstatic praise for it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (fuK7c)

353 They're so talented they leave beams sticking out of the roofs of buildings so they can build more floors later.
Posted by: Surfperch at August 19, 2019 06:22 PM (tVQUs)

I've heard in some places the taxes aren't due on some buildings until they are done. So they postulate and extra floor and then never intend to build it to avoid taxes.

Posted by: Oldcat at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (FTPn0)

354 "Processed" is my favorite kind of chicken... Mmmm...

Posted by: Burger Chef at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (RuIsu)

355 And the other gig might as well not even exist at this point.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 19, 2019 06:42 PM (NWiLs)
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Hang out a shingle at whatever has the most circulation in your area.

Tickets
Wills
Taxes (computerized)
Horoscopes (en Espanol)
Personal documents
Counseling - Come on in and have a ten dollar talk.

$50.00 a pop or whatever's cheap in your neighborhood.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (AfYvi)

356 Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:52 PM (fuK7c)

GE is in big financial trouble from what I last read. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a result of Jack's tenure and things he did that gave the perception he was a CEO god.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (2DOZq)

357 The 'chin flick' just means no in Italy? Yeah, there's no way I'm testing that claim.

Posted by: t-bird at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (IMdOQ)

358 A good friend who works as an engineer for one of the MAJOR chicken processors (the #2 in the US) says Trump's raid are rocking their businesses. The fallout is widespread. On the upside, citizens are getting the processing/line jobs in the short term but the businesses themselves are simply implementing automation programs that have been waiting in the wings so as to cut back on the li e personnel.

Posted by: Emil Moresi at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (LINkS)

359 I guess she thinks she has a good chance at the nomination now, so needs to sweep the whole "dishonestly injun" thing under the rug.''

Its the smartest way to handle it, but there's no way to make that go away.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (KZzsI)

360 Check to the north...maybe around Riverdale.


I'm looking way north and west. Like Montague.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (fuK7c)

361 >>I've never been to Barcelona. I've never heard anything but ecstatic praise for it.

It's very nice. I used to work with a guy who went there with his wife every New Year's Eve. His grand plan included retiring there.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (ZLI7S)

362 I've never heard anything but ecstatic praise for it.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (fuK7c)

Well, only from people who enjoy great food and wine and beautiful women.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (wYseH)

363 Turns out Martian soil is highly, highly toxic. You couldn't grow fucking potatoes on it and eat them. This means the idea of colonizing Mars becomes much more problematic.

Posted by: Max Power at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (q177U)


Then just grow them in your own shit!

Posted by: MATT DAMON at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (v0R5T)

364 I've never been to Barcelona. I've never heard anything but ecstatic praise for it.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome

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It's a fun town. And they have real grocery stores with cold beer.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (nPvDn)

365 "I'm trying to retire early and putting things in place." Consider expatriation. Some say Uruguay is nice. America is f*cking doomed.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (mk9aG)

366 Yep.... the whole planet is inimical to human life... and always will be, looks like..... the only possibility would be a subterranean cave life.... with imported... everything, nearly..... good place for the Woke Crowd, methinks.....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:55 PM (bCLt0)

Hell no. Just build a space habitat...just make sure not to invite Matt Damon on.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (ltuaO)

367 A good friend who works as an engineer for one of the MAJOR chicken processors (the #2 in the US) says Trump's raid are rocking their businesses.

Good. All those ag businesses that have been relying on illegal labor have long needed a kick in the pills. Dairies around here are infamous for using illegal labor.

Posted by: Christopher R Taylor at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (KZzsI)

368 >>Well, only from people who enjoy great food and wine and beautiful women.

You might know this. What is the ham that is a specialty of that area?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (ZLI7S)

369 Liz Warren-The only person in history to fail her own DNA test.

Posted by: Duke Lowell at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (kTF2Z)

370 320
I know damn well my former company has been pushing older employees out the door. Senior people with decades of experience. But when you're packaging yourself to be taken over and broken up it's important to have a Global Diversity and Inclusion manager.
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2019 06:49 PM (Wx/+I)


Yeah, that's what happened to my last company as well. Canned all the older guys and couldn't figure out why everything stopped working. I mean, a new grad with a CS degree is just as good as a guy who's worked there 20 years, right?

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (h2Bdk)

371 It's very nice. I used to work with a guy who went there with his wife every New Year's Eve. His grand plan included retiring there.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2019 06:57 PM (ZLI7S)


I've gone to Valencia twice and loved it. Always wanted to see Barcelona.

One of these days I may take a month off and travel Valencia -> Barcelona -> Nice -> Rome.

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (SgjGX)

372 "Sure, but at some point you've collected enough data to reach a
conclusion. I'm not making any implications, I'm reporting outright what
I have seen."


======


The plural of anecdote, is not data.

Posted by: McLurkerson at August 19, 2019 06:59 PM (KeRzR)

373 Some say Uruguay is nice.



I've heard the place to go is Paraguay.

Posted by: Emil Moresi at August 19, 2019 06:59 PM (LINkS)

374 As a kid, I was the grandparents chicken processor...... from pulling the head off to pulling out the guts to cutting them up.... and all spots in between..... Protip... after pulling off the head, let 'em run for a while.....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:00 PM (bCLt0)

375 Software developer, senior level. 20+ years experience at 3 companies so a stable work history.
Posted by: lin-duh

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This then too is the story of all us mature developers. I don't want a job now, but I, like the rest of us, couldn't get a call back in the last ten years.

But let's hire a sculptor major - she's been to a code camp for three weeks!

Posted by: Tonypete at August 19, 2019 07:00 PM (Y4EXg)

376 >>I've heard the place to go is Paraguay.


Chile.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2019 07:00 PM (ZLI7S)

377 Just got back from a week in Fiji - highly recommend if you like a beach holiday.

Posted by: IC at August 19, 2019 07:00 PM (a0IVu)

378 366 Yep.... the whole planet is inimical to human life... and always will be, looks like..... the only possibility would be a subterranean cave life.... with imported... everything, nearly..... good place for the Woke Crowd, methinks.....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 06:55 PM (bCLt0)


Can I haz wimmin with three boobz?

Posted by: Cicero Kaboom! Kid. at August 19, 2019 07:01 PM (Vy7tf)

379 Wish I lived there. There are no jobs where I'm at.

Posted by: Mike Yerian at August 19, 2019 07:01 PM (MOTel)

380 "Turns out Martian soil is highly, highly toxic. You couldn't grow fucking potatoes on it and eat them."

Our city, like many others, makes old brownfields and abandoned industrial sites available for community gardening. WTF knows what's in that dirt? Lots of stoddard solvent, that's for sure.

When you morons eat bagged salad, do you wash it in bulk, or one leaf at a time?

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 07:01 PM (mk9aG)

381
Then again, R&D in a commodity business is the rented mule of a red-haired stepchild.

Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 19, 2019 07:01 PM (Wx/+I)

382 We must hide under the mattresses.

Posted by: Fredo at August 19, 2019 07:01 PM (EgshT)

383 A friend is checking out Ecuador.

Posted by: Braenyard at August 19, 2019 07:02 PM (AfYvi)

384 What is the ham that is a specialty of that area?

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2019 06:58 PM (ZLI7S)

Jamon Iberico.

It's worth murdering for...

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2019 07:02 PM (wYseH)

385 Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 06:51 PM (Dhht7)

I should've qualified my comment to include "bidnisess of a larger size." You guys are the backbone and I feel for ya with all the hoops you have to jump through just to stay afloat. Was pretty close to that level of business for most of my manufacturing career.

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 07:02 PM (HaL55)

386 Uruguay....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:02 PM (bCLt0)

387 >>Jamon Iberico.

>>It's worth murdering for...

Only had it once but damn it was good.

Posted by: JackStraw at August 19, 2019 07:03 PM (ZLI7S)

388 Just got back from a week in Fiji - highly recommend if you like a beach holiday.

Posted by: IC at August 19, 2019 07:00 PM

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What's the travel time? Do they have a Ritz?

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 07:03 PM (Dhht7)

389 I can't retire any where they won't let me bring my gun safe and its contents.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 07:03 PM (2DOZq)

390 "Turns out Martian soil is highly, highly toxic. You couldn't grow
fucking potatoes on it and eat them. This means the idea of colonizing
Mars becomes much more problematic."

Not to mention that he had nowhere near the lighting needed to grow plants indoors, and the spectrum of the bulbs would not have been correct either.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 19, 2019 07:03 PM (DjIXP)

391 Liz Warren-The only person in history to fail her own DNA test.

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Ha!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 07:03 PM (+y/Ru)

392 Avoid Belize. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: John McAfee at August 19, 2019 07:04 PM (nPvDn)

393 Liz Warren-The only person in history to fail her own DNA test.
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She didn't study for it.

Posted by: Captain Obvious at August 19, 2019 07:04 PM (iB1oa)

394 > Never add the next floor.

There used to be a lot of places here that were basically just live-in basements, for a similar reason. People would build "a basement" with a just above ground-level flat roof on top, then never build the rest.

I think that loophole got closed at some point because you rarely see those nowadays.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 19, 2019 07:04 PM (b1Typ)

395 Uruguay....
Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:02 PM (bCLt0)

Beaches .


Paraguay- Jungle

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 07:04 PM (2DOZq)

396 "But let's hire a sculptor major - she's been to a code camp for three weeks!"

She brings unique new insights learned from her special learned experiences that can only improve our quality and productivity. She will especially help correct our toxic masculine culture of getting things done right and on time.

Diversity! If you don't support it, out you go!

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (mk9aG)

397 ''Not to mention that he had nowhere near the lighting needed to grow plants indoors, and the spectrum of the bulbs would not have been correct either.''

Guess that's why they call it Science Fiction.

That plot point did seem a little weak but it was a fun read nonetheless.

Posted by: Tuna at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (jm1YL)

398 Jamon Iberico.

It's worth murdering for...


OMG. Italian GF's mother had that. Only comes from one county, from wild boar, that only eat chestnuts.

Wiki says acorns, maybe there's a different kind with chestnuts.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (fuK7c)

399 I can't retire any where they won't let me bring my gun safe and its contents.



lots of states are fine with guns but the safe full of bodies is harder to get someone to ignore

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (HALdu)

400
One of these days I may take a month off and travel Valencia -> Barcelona -> Nice -> Rome.
Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile


Is Nice nicer than Nicetown?

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (aKsyK)

401 The hard radiation you get on Mars woulda cooked little Matty D. in no time... but... hand wave to science and all... typical...

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (bCLt0)

402 The plural of anecdote, is not data.
I've always thought this was a stupid saying. As long as your methodology is good, collecting data IS the systematic collection of single data points, which each might be called an anecdote.
So yes, the plural of anecdote + proper system of collection IS data.

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (9t0Zz)

403 Avoid Belize. Trust me on this one.

Posted by: John McAfee at August 19, 2019 07:04 PM (nPvDn)

Heard the same thing. Nasty groups there.

Posted by: Sharrukin2 at August 19, 2019 07:06 PM (ltuaO)

404 "This then too is the story of all us mature
developers. I don't want a job now, but I, like the rest of us, couldn't
get a call back in the last ten years.



But let's hire a sculptor major - she's been to a code camp for three weeks!

Posted by: Tonypete"

I know if I ever lost the gig I have now, there's no way I get another job in software, unless I wrote my own mobile apps and sold them.

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 19, 2019 07:06 PM (DjIXP)

405 Never add the next floor.

There used to be a lot of places here that were basically just live-in basements, for a similar reason. People would build "a basement" with a just above ground-level flat roof on top, then never build the rest.

I think that loophole got closed at some point because you rarely see those nowadays.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at A




sod huts

Posted by: yankeefifth at August 19, 2019 07:06 PM (HALdu)

406 392 Avoid Belize. Trust me on this one.
Posted by: John McAfee at August 19, 2019 07:04 PM (nPvDn)


Yep..... know people who went there to live.... they lasted 18 months....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:06 PM (bCLt0)

407 "Just got back from a week in Fiji " Cost of living must be astronomical, considering everything has to be flown in. Do they have a hospital? Hospitals are nice.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 07:07 PM (mk9aG)

408 Wiki says acorns, maybe there's a different kind with chestnuts.
Posted by: Bandersnatch,

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Pata Negra, IIRC.

*drools*

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 19, 2019 07:07 PM (nPvDn)

409 Dairies around here are infamous for using illegal labor.
Posted by: Christopher R Taylor



Definitely. I worked at Dairyman's up near Tulare, CA in the 90s and I was one of 3 or 4 of us that spoke English.

Posted by: Emil Moresi at August 19, 2019 07:07 PM (LINkS)

410 The clowns on the FOX panel can't fathom Trump being pissed of at their poll showing him with a 39% re-elect number.

Posted by: REDACTED at August 19, 2019 07:07 PM (+8+gB)

411 from pulling the head off
Dude, not even a knife or a hatchet? You just yanked?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 07:07 PM (9t0Zz)

412 I hear Dominican Republic is a fun place, great hotels with mini bars, great hospitals.

Posted by: wth at August 19, 2019 07:08 PM (v0R5T)

413 lots of states are fine with guns but the safe full of bodies is harder to get someone to ignore
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (HALdu

The seller said it would hold three bodies but I could only fit one. ( gun safe capacity humor or attempt thereof)

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 07:08 PM (2DOZq)

414 It's one thing to show up at a job fair. Another thing to actually show up, you know, at the actual job.
Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 19, 2019 05:54 PM (FiUMj)



and pass the weed test.

Posted by: Grump928(C) at August 19, 2019 07:08 PM (yQpMk)

415 38 The whole "jobs Americans won't do" is bullshit and always was.

Just some corporate dinks who want to depress wages and even at those wages I think you would find people willing to work.
_________________

Yep. There used to be videos (may still be around) on the internet of law firms that give seminars on how to avoid hiring U.S. citizens. How to word the ads to discourage citizens from applying, how to place the ads so they're unlikely to ever be seen by citizens, what to do if (God forbid) some U.S. citizen actually shows up with an application and tries to get one of the jobs, etc.

It's been a highly-organized racket for some time. Absolute total bullshit that Americans don't want these jobs, or the tech jobs, or any other jobs.

Posted by: TrivialPursuer at August 19, 2019 07:08 PM (k4dH2)

416 nood

Posted by: Mikey NTH - Temper Your Tantrums With Strident Strife From The Outrage Outlet! at August 19, 2019 07:08 PM (CkGtt)

417 they lasted 18 months
Until they move, right?
Or did they meet a more sinister end?

Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (9t0Zz)

418 411 from pulling the head off
Dude, not even a knife or a hatchet? You just yanked?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 07:07 PM (9t0Zz)

Oh yeah... lay em on the ground.... put a dowel rod across their necks, and yank.... then let em run for a bit....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (bCLt0)

419 Was in Uruguay just a short time, years ago, just Montevideo - but very nice. Quiet, slow, a bit behind, but nice.



Posted by: rhomboid at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (QDnY+)

420 > sod huts

We still do have a few places around with sod roofs, though that's mostly just historical buildings

The (claimed, there are no real records that far back) oldest bar in town has a sod roof.

Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (b1Typ)

421 The plural of anecdote, is not data.

-
Is it goulash?

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (+y/Ru)

422 I've always thought this was a stupid saying. As long as your methodology is good, collecting data IS the systematic collection of single data points, which each might be called an anecdote.
So yes, the plural of anecdote + proper system of collection IS data.
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (9t0Zz)


I prefer, "for a sufficiently large sample size it can approximate it."

Posted by: Colorado Alex In Exile at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (SgjGX)

423 417 they lasted 18 months
Until they move, right?
Or did they meet a more sinister end?
Posted by: bonhomme at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (9t0Zz)

Moved on to Uruguay....

Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:09 PM (bCLt0)

424 Which is why he was saddled with Wray.

Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (3hxXM)


The UniParty Establishment is in it for the long haul!

Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 19, 2019 07:10 PM (BiNEL)

425 Uruguay....
Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:02 PM (bCLt0)
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Who you callin' guay?

Posted by: Axeman at August 19, 2019 07:10 PM (DuZls)

426 GE is in big financial trouble from what I last read. I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't a result of Jack's tenure and things he did that gave the perception he was a CEO god.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 06:56 PM (2DOZq)


A wise man once said, "Never follow a successful CEO."

Because you'll find out he burned the furniture to keep warm.

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 19, 2019 07:10 PM (heaSb)

427 394
> Never add the next floor.



There used to be a lot of places here that were basically just
live-in basements, for a similar reason. People would build "a basement"
with a just above ground-level flat roof on top, then never build the
rest.


that's how the house i own in northern utah was originally built. contractor took the money for the main floor and skipped the country. strapped homeowner managed to scrape together enough to put a roof on the basement. some years later they managed to build the main floor.

Posted by: Anachronda at August 19, 2019 07:10 PM (sGtp+)

428 The hard radiation you get on Mars woulda cooked little Matty D. in no time... but... hand wave to science and all... typical...
Posted by: kraken at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (bC

The worst fallacy was the windstorm and it's effects.

Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 19, 2019 07:10 PM (2DOZq)

429 Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 19, 2019 07:02

I knew that, BB. But as small biz guy I'm sensitive to it. I do care about my employees.

Posted by: olddog in mo at August 19, 2019 07:10 PM (Dhht7)

430 Well, I was going to drop some Italian charcuterie stories, but we're nooded.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 07:11 PM (fuK7c)

431
I hear Dominican Republic is a fun place, great hotels with mini bars, great hospitals.
Posted by: wth


The booze is to die for!

Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 19, 2019 07:11 PM (aKsyK)

432 "Guess that's why they call it Science Fiction.



That plot point did seem a little weak but it was a fun read nonetheless.

Posted by: Tuna"

And, he writes out this note to leave in his rover thingy, about how nice it's treated him and so on. Ostensibly for whoever finds it later. And then he leaves it PARKED MERE METERS AWAY FROM HIS F*CKING SPACESHIP AND IT'S THRUSTERS AS HE TAKES OFF!

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 19, 2019 07:11 PM (DjIXP)

433 410 The clowns on the FOX panel can't fathom Trump being pissed of at their poll showing him with a 39% re-elect number.

Posted by: REDACTED



A recent poll show's that 88% of all polls are made up garbage.

Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 19, 2019 07:12 PM (Qt2ya)

434 "The clowns on the FOX panel can't fathom Trump being pissed of at their poll showing him with a 39% re-elect number."

Yes, Powerline's Mirengoff also says Trump is "not happy" about it. Of course, the correct reaction would be to BE HAPPY about it.

BTW, Mirengoff is the guy who got politically-corrected by his law firm, after he (accurately) wrote that an Indian (feather) prayer at a Tucson event was a bunch of heathen nonsense. Now he really _digs_ political correctness, I guess.

Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 07:12 PM (mk9aG)

435 "The worst fallacy was the windstorm and it's effects.

Posted by: Pig"

Yeah! What about those other pre-sited return craft? Wouldn't they get knocked over as well?

Posted by: AshevilleRobert at August 19, 2019 07:13 PM (DjIXP)

436 Now he really _digs_ political correctness, I guess.


They corrected him.

Posted by: Delbert Grady at August 19, 2019 07:14 PM (yQpMk)

437 When you morons eat bagged salad, do you wash it in bulk, or one leaf at a time?
Posted by: gp at August 19, 2019 07:01 PM (mk9aG)


I wash it through an animal. Salad is what food eats.

Posted by: Ace's liver at August 19, 2019 07:17 PM (h2Bdk)

438 Wiki says acorns, maybe there's a different kind with chestnuts.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 19, 2019 07:05 PM (fuK7c)

The Spanish do not fvck around when it comes to cured pork.There are a few different kinds, and they are all spectacular.

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 19, 2019 07:22 PM (wYseH)

439 .

Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 19, 2019 07:22 PM (heaSb)

440 You pay by the hour, you get what you get and weed out the bad employees. You pay by the job(like the amish roofers) you get the job done in reasonable time, and in the case of the amish at least, quality work. You pay by the day, you get fast work, so they can move on to the next pay per day job. Sometimes its quality, sometimes its poo. I can work like a banshee and create a pile of crap too. Working fast is not hard working. Its whatever you have to do so you get your money and move on. Building codes, unions, inspections, etc.... But hey, no restrictions on immigration!!! Ive qorked aide by side with a lot of legal immigrants, from many different countries. They were just as hard working as illegals.

Posted by: Citizen slave at August 19, 2019 07:42 PM (Dnbqd)

441 250 If corporations are keeping American citizens out of jobs to go after the cheaper supply of foreigners, I just became a little more anti-corporate.
Posted by: Axeman at August 19, 2019 06:34 PM (DuZls)


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All the companies are easy to spot. Dalton, Georgia is overrun with Hispanics. That's because Dalton carpets fired all the blacks and hired Hispanics, mostly illegals.

Hanover, Pennsylvania is also overrun with Hispanics. I believe that can be attributed to Mohawk industries.

In both cases the towns were not historically Hispanic and had massive changes in demographics over the last 20 years. Easy to spot

Posted by: MAGA at August 19, 2019 07:47 PM (I5LRE)

442 71 Considering his replacement was David Dinkins, Ed Koch was spot on.

Posted by: Richard McEnroe at August 20, 2019 04:04 PM (ABuva)

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