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Sunday Morning Book Thread 08-18-2019

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Biblioteca Universitaria di Bologna, Italy


Good morning to all you 'rons, 'ettes, lurkers, and lurkettes, wine moms, frat bros, crétins sans pantalon (who are technically breaking the rules), secret agents, sleeper agents, double agents, travel agents, Indian agents, and, the worst of them all, insurance agents. Welcome once again to the stately, prestigious, internationally acclaimed and high-class Sunday Morning Book Thread, a weekly compendium of reviews, observations, snark, witty repartee, hilarious bon mots, and a continuing conversation on books, reading, writing, and publishing by escaped oafs and oafettes who follow words with their fingers and whose lips move as they read. Unlike other AoSHQ comment threads, the Sunday Morning Book Thread is so hoity-toity, pants are required. Even if it's these pants, which should be proof enough that not all yoga pants are hot and sexy.



Pic Note

The University of Bologna's library appears to be bigger and more grand than your average library:

It is worth remembering that in addition to the Library’s enormous wealth of written and printed heritage – now amounting to over 1.250.000 volumes – it also comprises an art collection made up of over 400 portraits of illustrious figures, while 16th century frescoes, only recently restored, make the library an even greater visual feast for its visitors.

Boy, I'll say.


It Pays To Increase Your Word Power®

The German word VORFÜHREFFEKT—literally, ‘the demonstration effect’—refers to a situation in which something stops working, and then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.

Oddly enough, I am comforted by the fact that somebody actually invented a word to describe this phenomenon.




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Discover Conservative Fiction Authors

One of my Twitter followers maintains a list on her site of books written by right-leaning authors. This is the intro:

The writers listed here are conservative and libertarian. While many of their novels are apolitical, you will never find liberal snark in their work, and you will find some real gems of political philosophy in the pages of many.

The list is here. Some of the authors will no doubt be familiar to you, but there will be new. Here is one that caught my eye, Attack of the 50-Foot Democrats, which is probably worth reading just for the title alone:

A power-hungry billionaire dreams of re-shaping America into a perfect society of his leftist ideals. A mad scientist is working on a serum he believes will drastically improve the human race. An idealistic Republican Senator is ready to retire, having despaired of turning the tide of his beloved country’s decline. A charismatic President, on the verge of easy re-election, just wants to read his teleprompter and bask in the media’s adulation. However, when an impetuous Democrat politician gets his hands on a vial of not-quite-perfected “miracle” serum, everyone’s plans are, quite literally, torn apart.Follow a small band of patriots as they try to save their country from the double threat of physical destruction and leftist takeover in this over-the-top hilarious hybrid of 50’s horror movies and modern political satire.

$4.99 for the Kindle edition is not a bad price.



They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:

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Recommended Podcast

A lurker e-mails:

The John Batchelor podcast includes a lot of great book reviews on major historical events as well as biographies. Overall it’s must listening on a daily basis.

You can access the John Batchelor podcast here.



Who Dis:

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Books by Morons

A lurker writes:

I'm an old scribbler, been writing for over fifty years. One of my books had a brief moment in the sun, that was Carl Melcher Goes to Vietnam, named a 2001 Frankfurt eBook Award finalist.

Here's his book, Carl Melcher Goes to Vietnam:

The year is 1968. Like thousands of other American boys, Carl Melcher is drafted and sent to Vietnam. His new company is infected with the same racial tensions plaguing the nation. Despite that, Carl makes friends on both sides of the color line. The war, like a tiger lurking in the bushes, picks off its victims one by one. Naively over-optimistic, Carl believes that karma and good intentions will save him and his friends. Then fate intervenes to teach Carl something of the meaning of life, and death.

...Crossing Over (a novella), tells the story of an ordinary American family forced to take to their camper and flee to the Canadian border as the second American civil war breaks out.

Crossing Over is

Set some time in the not-too-distant future, the existence of two simultaneous presidents has split the country along ideological lines.

The idea that there could be two presidents is disturbingly plausible. Particularly since the progressives have demonstrated their absolute refusal to accept election results. It would be just like them to declare their own President. The only question is how would they make it stick.

The protests are becoming violent, sections of the country have formed their own militias, along with the militias of the two warring parties. In the midst of shortages of food and other necessities, gangs and thugs are terrorizing formerly safe neighborhoods. Realizing that it is no longer safe to remain in their home, Mike McNerney decides to pack the camper and flee to Canada with his wife, Marie, and disabled teenage daughter, Elly. Unfortunately, everyone else has the same idea...Clayton’s premise is chillingly realistic. The book does not focus on the politics, but instead focuses on regular Americans who not long before led totally normal lives, and who are quickly turned into refugees as they try to escape the crime and violence taking over the country.

If we're going to have Civil War 2.0, this might be what it looks like.

The other, Talk to a Real, Live Girl, is a sci-fi collection. The title tale is a novella about the intersection of the #MeToo moment and the rise of the sexbots, in a distant future. NOTE: there is no gratuitous sex in this story. It is a good positive tale for young men, an actual love story, with action and suspense. Two other sci-fi tales complete the book, and a 'bonus' story.

Talk to a Real, Live Girl: And Other Stories is 2.99 on Kindle. The Amazon blurb says:

A genuine love story, Talk to a Real, Live Girl explores consequences of a #MeToo movement run amok, and of adaptations brave individuals may be forced to make.

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Moron Recommendations

71 On the Kindle I finished Charbonneau: Man of Two Dreams by Wil Blevins. Jean Baptiste Charbonneau was born to Sacajawea and a French fur trapper. As an infant he traveled with the Lewis and Clark expedition. At the age of six he was left in St. Louis with William Clark who was governor of Missouri. Charbonneau was raised in society and received a Jesuit education. At 18 he met the Duke of Wurttenberg and traveled with him to Germany to help the Duke with his book about America. He continued his education there and found he had a talent for music. After six years he returned to the United States and entered the fur trade. Soon he was in the mountains of the West and and met with his mother's band of the Shoshone. Charbonneau led an interesting life and Blevins wrote an excellent account of it.

Posted by: Zoltan at July 28, 2019 09:34 AM (wuQ4y)

$4.99 for the Kindle edition of Charbonneau: Man of Two Dreams is a mighty reasonable price.

Charbonneau became an American explorer, guide, fur trapper-trader, military scout during the Mexican-American War, alcalde (mayor) of Mission San Luis Rey de Francia, and a gold prospector and hotel operator in Northern California. He spoke French and English, and learned German and Spanish during his six years in Europe. He also spoke Shoshone and other western Native American languages, which he learned first from his family and then during his years of trapping and guiding.

'Larger than life' is probably not an exaggerated description of him.

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340 Good morning Horde,

I recently finished 11/22/63 by Stephen King. I never thought I would read a King novel because most are too scary for me, and I'm not into horror. But, 11/22/63 is more of an alternate history/time travel book about trying to change history by preventing the JFK assassination. I really enjoyed it, and I discovered that Stephen King is a great writer.

Last night, I finished Castle of Water by Dane Huckelbridge. I had no idea what to expect, but I really enjoyed this one, too. Admittedly, it did start off a bit slow, but after the first couple of chapters, I could hardly put it down. It is about a plane wreck and being stranded on a desert island and survival as well as love and heartbreak.

Posted by: Violet at August 11, 2019 11:50 AM (9ppMC)

I've read most, if not all, of King's early works. I stopped about the time his Dark Tower series came out. He never struck me as being a particularly great writer, I found his books were hard to put down once I started them. In order to make sense of my this, I had to make a distinction, so this is what I came up with: Analogous to how a woman can be "pretty" or "sexy" with the two not necessarily being the same thing (although there is usually lots of overlap), an author can be a writer or a storyteller, and the two don't have to be the same. A storyteller is an author who has the ability to keep you asking "What happened next? And then what happened? OK, and then what happened?" over and over again. It's like we humans have some kind of 'story' center in our brains, and the good storytellers, like Stephen King, have figured out how to tweak it. Of course, in order to be a good storyteller you have to have at least some skill as a writer, and King has at least that.

The other book Violet mentioned, Castle of Water, is a story about two different people on one very small island:

For Sophie Ducel, her honeymoon in French Polynesia was intended as a celebration of life. The proud owner of a thriving Parisian architecture firm, co-founded with her brilliant new husband, Sophie had much to look forward to—including a visit to the island home of her favorite singer, Jacques Brel.

For Barry Bleecker, the same trip was meant to mark a new beginning. Turning away from his dreary existence in Manhattan finance, Barry had set his sights on fine art, seeking creative inspiration on the other side of the world—just like his idol, Paul Gauguin.

But when their small plane is downed in the middle of the South Pacific, the sole survivors of the wreck are left with one common goal: to survive. Stranded hundreds of miles from civilization, on an island the size of a large city block, the two castaways must reconcile their differences and learn to draw on one another's strengths if they are to have any hope of making it home.

The Kindle edition is $13.99.

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I recently heard an interview with Dr. Stephen Davies who recently wrote a book called The Wealth Explosion: The Nature and Origins of Modernity.

He intrigued me so much that this is on my to-order list

His book is about modernity and how it has worked to make us affluent, and then goes on to describe the elements that made it so. He calls this Modernity. He also argues that there have been a number of periods of affluence that have most of the same elements as today, but they only lasted on the average of about 150 years before the societies slumped back to authoritarian societies without freedom and without affluence.

I suspect the goal is to end modernity and go back to the stable and predictable and engineered "post modernist" society; the elite stay the elite without having to fight over it.

Davies' view of what caused European Enlightenment affluence is quite different from Jared Diamond's Guns Steel Germs book, and his interview showed much more theory and discussion on society than Carlo Cipolla's Guns Sails and Empires (a fascinating book in itself that describes how societies either succeeded or failed to turn themselves inside out to reach modern technology and become economic and military powerhouses)

OF COURSE I have to add that I only heard a 30 minute interview and have not read the book yet, but it sounds riveting.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 11, 2019 02:06 PM (q2o3

The Amazon blurb for The Wealth Explosion: The Nature and Origins of Modernity adds nothing to Kindltot's review, but be prepared for some sticker shock. The cheapest paperback versions sell for $35 and there are no e-book versions available.

For a book that, I think, covers the same ground but is less expensive, there is Rodney Stark's How the West Won: The Neglected Story of the Triumph of Modernity. Among other things,

Stark also debunks absurd fabrications that have flourished in the past few decades: that the Greeks stole their culture from Africa; that the West’s “discoveries” were copied from the Chinese and Muslims; that Europe became rich by plundering the non-Western world. At the same time, he reveals the woeful inadequacy of recent attempts to attribute the rise of the West to purely material causes?favorable climates, abundant natural resources, guns and steel.

$9.99 on Kindle.

More of the same: One of the accounts I follow on Twitter is Orwell & Goode, because they repost goofy sh* from left sources (for examples, this, and that) that are a good chronology of the decline of Western Civilization. I thought it was interesting when O&G came out with a book, A Matter of Time: How Time Preferences Make or Break Civilization:

No lasting civilization can stand merely living for today--there must be an implied interest in the future beyond the life expectancy of the individual, which their children will inherit. Western birth rates have plummeted to an unprecedented low. Divorce rates and other family-oriented stats paint a bleak picture for the future. And, paradoxically, despite the wonderful GDPs we boast, individuals seem more disinclined than ever to start families--or think about the future.

In this book, we delve into several potential spiritual and material reasons as to why Westerners have become so present-minded. Why collective self-confidence has been lost and vapid, cheap, entertainment seems so appealing. This book seeks to illustrate the decivilizing tendencies of high time preferences--instant gratification--on a social scale, how they manifest, what causes them, and how to begin combating a temptation for present-minded consumption over something more future-oriented.

So when the time comes after the societal collapse when our overlords are nearly naked men with colander masks ruling the barren wastelands, at least we'll know how we got there.

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So that's all for this week. As always, book thread tips, suggestions, bribes, insults, threats, ugly pants pics and moron library submissions may be sent to OregonMuse, Proprietor, AoSHQ Book Thread, at the book thread e-mail address: aoshqbookthread, followed by the 'at' sign, and then 'G' mail, and then dot cee oh emm.

What have you all been reading this week? Hopefully something good, because, as you all know, life is too short to be reading lousy books.




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Posted by: OregonMuse at 09:00 AM




Comments

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1 Currently reading Witches Bell by Odette C Bell which you can get free. It is the first book in a series.


https://tinyurl.com/y52h9vwp


I had started on a new one by Jeff Wheeler, Storm Glass, I gave it up after a few chapters. It was boring. Nothing lost, it is free too.


https://tinyurl.com/y5zaoq9t

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:01 AM (mpXpK)

2 hiya

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (arJlL)

3 Nice

Posted by: Village Idiot's Apprentice at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (cqNba)

4 I think the dude in those pants is seated next to me on this flight.

Posted by: Diogenes at August 18, 2019 09:02 AM (aZNua)

5 16th century frescoes"

Huh. Wouldn't Fresca go stale by now?

sorry...

Posted by: Anon a mouse at August 18, 2019 09:04 AM (6qErC)

6 John Batchelor is a great interviewer. He has a wide variety of guests.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (nDe2U)

7 Since I am a formal sort of guy, I put on some pants before coming to the book thread.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (NVYyb)

8 Bruce Lee is da who dis.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (arJlL)

9 Wild guess....Bruce Lee?

Posted by: BignJames at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (ykq7q)

10 I'm disappointed that conservative list did not have David Weber or John Ringo.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:06 AM (mpXpK)

11 Those pant are fine. I would wear them to barbeque on my poop deck.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Krisco at August 18, 2019 09:06 AM (Tnijr)

12 I read Where Stuff Comes From by Harvey Molotch. Published in 2003, the author attempts to explain how "stuff" appears the way it does. He uses the term "design" in order to differentiate appearance from how products are manufactured. The book is moderately interesting and he does have some flashes of insight: he argues that people consume "stuff" because is satisfies some need rather than being exploited by Capitalists. He does address the failure of the Soviet Union to provide enough consumer goods but misses the point that a vast array of consumer goods is a product of free markets and does not realize that corrupt governmental leadership and a lack of free markets leads to a poorer life-style. Unfortunately, every time he starts to get a glimmer that Leftist dogma is flawed, he has to virtue-signal again, such as when he goes into bit of a rant about the internal combustion engine and we really should have stayed with steam engines (there's a reason we don't have steam-powered aircraft) or using the term "so called Americas." Rating = 2.5/5.

I also read Why We Fight by Sebastian Gorka. Published in 2018, it is a short analysis of 4th Generation Warfare (although he doesn't use that term); i.e., a return to limited "small wars" in the future rather than nations-at-arms such as WWII. Gorka also gives us some biographical insight about how he got to be where he is now. A pretty quick read, it is more a primer for the interested layman, rather than an informed student of 4GW. Rating = 4.0/5.0

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 09:07 AM (5Yee7)

13 Oh that's the guy Brad Pitt beats up in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:08 AM (fuK7c)

14 At first glance, I thought that library was a church.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:09 AM (lwiT4)

15 I think the dude in those pants is seated next to me on this flight.
Posted by: Diogenes

In the pic, it looks like he's ready to "Take a Meeting" !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:09 AM (arJlL)

16 It sounds like Vorführeffekt may be a variety of Heisenbug.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/5jmol4

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 09:10 AM (t+qrx)

17 At first glance, I thought that library was a church.
Posted by: grammie winger

Same here.

Hiya Grammie !

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 09:10 AM (arJlL)

18 I read Heart of Barkness by Spencer Quinn. This is the latest in the Chet and Bernie series. The mysteries may not be the greatest, but I love this series. The narration by a number-challenged dog, Chet (The Jet), is very funny. His frequent asides and his dog's point of view keeps a smile on my face while I read the books.

I also read Survival in Auschwitz by Primo Levi, the author of The Periodic Table. A short, interesting account of Levi's one year in Auschwitz. Particularly interesting was his account of surviving the last ten days between when the Germans fled and the Russian army arrived.


Posted by: Zoltan at August 18, 2019 09:11 AM (wuQ4y)

19 "They Don't Publish Books Like This Any More:"

Mr f'd has a family songbook from the 20's she showed me the other day and one of the songs is "KKK Katy". I'm pretty sure you can't do that no mo.

Posted by: Cap'n Bill Krisco at August 18, 2019 09:11 AM (Tnijr)

20 The German word VORFÜHREFFEKT—literally, ‘the demonstration effect’—refers to a situation in which something stops working, and then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.
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Conversely, there is the phenomenon of a product that has always worked perfectly, but fails miserably when demonstrated to a potential buyer.

Bill Gates and Steve Jobs both experienced this, in fairly spectacular fashion.

I once worked with a VP of Sales, who wisely refused to do more than display and talk about our products at trade shows, on account of that risk.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:11 AM (yAc+w)

21 eeeww off greasy sock



Anyway here's the story:

K-K-K Katy, written 1917, by a Canadian!

The lyrics tell of a brave but awkward soldier called Jimmy who is lovesick over the beautiful Katy. He buys a wedding ring before going to fight in France.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 09:13 AM (Tnijr)

22 I subscribed to Kindle Unlimited a couple of months ago. It lets me try out authors I might never have heard of. I usually go for suspense/mystery. So far its been a mixed bag of mediocre to pretty good. Yesterday's book was pretty good. "A Litter of Bones" by JD Kirk, a murder mystery set in the Scottish Highlands. I can't complain about the mediocre ones because, free. After this month, I'll have to pay ten bucks a month though. Not bad for all the books you can read.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (lwiT4)

23 Still working on 'The Making of the Atomic Bomb', Rhodes.

The biographical information of the sundry physicists is comprehensive and fascinating.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (yAc+w)

24 Read "Monte Cassino" by Matthew Parker. He tells the story of the four assaults against Monte Cassino, and the surrounding towns and mountains in central Italy from January-May 1944. After the successful allied landings in Italy the German strategy was to fight a delaying action by establishing "lines" of defense. The most formidable was the western end of the Gustav Line centered near Monte Cassino that blocked the route to Rome. Field Marshal Kesselring made it into an attackers nightmare. Buildings and trees were removed to improve fields of fire. Low ground was flooded. Mines, booby traps, and barbed wire were laid everywhere. Due to the winter weather vehicles bogged down in the mud. Often the best mine clearing equipment were goats, and mules were more valuable than vehicles.

Mostly told from first person accounts of those who fought there: American, British, Canadian, New Zealanders and Maoris, French and their N. African colonials, Indians, Gurhkas, Sikhs, Polish, Italians as well as the Germans.

Parker also includes humor. Apparently the New Zealanders weren't into the spit and polish routine. A British general who visited their headquarters complained to their commander LtGen Sir Bernard Freyberg, "Your people don't salute very much do they?" Freyberg said, "You should try waving at them. They always wave back."

German view from Monte Cassino.
https://tinyurl.com/yypzptym
Allies view of Monte Cassino.
https://tinyurl.com/y3ldjopg

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (TDyHc)

25 "Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend.

Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."

- Groucho Marx, my kind of Marxist

Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (HaL55)

26 Hiya JT!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (lwiT4)

27 Good morning on behalf of Mr. JTB who is attending an all-day event at our club. I am sure he will give a full report on Weasel's thread this evening. In the meantime if you like Egyptology, archaeological adventure and murder mysteries, try an Amelia Peabody book written by Elizabeth Peters.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (bmdz3)

28 22
I subscribed to Kindle Unlimited a couple of months ago. It lets me try
out authors I might never have heard of. I usually go for
suspense/mystery. So far its been a mixed bag of mediocre to pretty
good. Yesterday's book was pretty good. "A Litter of Bones" by JD Kirk, a
murder mystery set in the Scottish Highlands. I can't complain about
the mediocre ones because, free. After this month, I'll have to pay ten
bucks a month though. Not bad for all the books you can read.


Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:14 AM (lwiT4)

How much does that kindle unlimited cost per year? I have been thinking about it.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (mpXpK)

29 Nice ending. That Ikea meme is hilarious.

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (Z1eux)

30 Oh, of course willowed this morning.

269 Good morning, brethren and cistern.

Salty, thumbs up on propane generator with auto transfer. Up here in Siberian NH, the power goes out monthly, more in the winter. Don't have a whole-house genset, just critical circuits - stove, furnace, fridge, Xbox. Oh, and router so I don't lose you guys.
And thinking ahead, nice to have in the burning times. Just get a really large underground tank.

Sorry, Oregon Muse, I'll get to books in a moment.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:16 AM (RqZyu)

31 How much does that kindle unlimited cost per year? I have been thinking about it.


Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (mpXpK)



The first three months I got free. After that it's ten bucks a month. I'm not sure if you have to be a Prime member or not. (I am).

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:17 AM (lwiT4)

32 Per a Moron's recommendation, I've also started 'Paris in the Terror', Loomis.

If you're here, thanks for the suggestion.

Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:17 AM (yAc+w)

33 It sounds like Vorführeffekt may be a variety of Heisenbug.


I'm on a discussion board about Vorführeffekt and no one can come up with an English equivalent.

People have tried Murphy's Law, but that's too generalized. The Brits have a Sod's Law, which is Murphy with the stipulation that it go wrong in the worst possible way.

The word isn't in the main dictionary (dict.leo.org is your friend if you German), but all of the Germans in the discussion group are familiar with it and looking for the way to express the same thing in English.

There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (fuK7c)

34 if you like Egyptology, archaeological adventure and murder mysteries, try an Amelia Peabody book written by Elizabeth Peters.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at August 18, 2019 09:15 AM (bmdz3)



That sounds right up my alley. I'll add it to my list - thanks!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (lwiT4)

35 On airplanes this past week, I found the Foundation books on my Kindle and now I am into rereading the third one.

It started as a trilogy, as everyone knows, but Asimov could not resist the filthy lucre and so he kept going, eventually tying them into his Robot books as well. So I guess I will reread those next, which is OK, because the first couple of Robot books have great vitality and are among his best.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (NVYyb)

36 John Batchelor is a great interviewer. He has a wide variety of guests.


Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (nDe2U)

something about him rubs me the wrong way, and I can't listen to him.

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 09:21 AM (q2o38)

37 drat

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 09:21 AM (q2o38)

38 My Mom gave me Bologna sammiches,but she never told me aboot her Library.
Don't the greasy fingered Bolognese mess up the Bibles?


There is more space in there than a JJ Morning Report!!!

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:22 AM (5IHGB)

39 Looking for recommendations to learn more about Critical Theory, but something a little lighter than Michael Walsh's "The Devil's Pleasure Palace."

(If writing could be said to be baroque, that book would be a great example.)

Posted by: secdroid at August 18, 2019 09:23 AM (33NcR)

40 Looks like you don't need prime to sign up. You get the first 30 days free and then its $10/month + taxes

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (mpXpK)

41 Morning!

Some nice thunderstorms coming through here this morning.. got the dog out just before this wave hit!

Does reading the latest Popular Science and Popular Mechanics count? I simply cannot get interested in reading books lately.. I think it must have something to do with too much time on the internet.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (438dO)

42 I see Milan has a NO ITALIANS ALLOWED rule...

ou est la Bibliotheque Marco?

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (5IHGB)

43 I've also started 'Paris in the Terror', Loomis.
Posted by: Mike Hammer, etc., etc. at August 18, 2019 09:17 AM

I think you'll enjoy it. It's one of the best history books I've read in a long time.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:25 AM (TDyHc)

44 FWIW, I subscribed to Kindle Unlimited for a couple of years when it first came out. We enjoyed sampling new authors for a while, but then it seemed that they didn't really add any new stuff. It may have improved since then.

I now pay the same amount for an Austin Public Library card (since I live outside of the city). It's not inconvenient since we only use it for ebooks. Much happier with the selection and it's saved me a ton on books that I would otherwise have bought.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 09:26 AM (S+f+m)

45 Vic - just a note. Not all books are available on Kindle Unlimited. For instance, I was hoping to read all the Agatha Christie books, but they are not available on KU.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:26 AM (lwiT4)

46
Turn Down The Volume - a limerick

We set all the books in a line
And at first we thought things were fine
'Til the sixth one got lost
How'd those numbers get crossed?
Ah! A six is an upside down nine

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:28 AM (mvenn)

47 44 I now pay the same amount for an Austin Public
Library card (since I live outside of the city). It's not inconvenient
since we only use it for ebooks. Much happier with the selection and
it's saved me a ton on books that I would otherwise have bought.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 09:26 AM (S+f+m)

I am a member of the library here and it is free. They have a few kindle books but they are always checked out and there is a waiting list. And the selection is limited.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:28 AM (mpXpK)

48 I have started The Sun Also Rises which I haven't read in ages. It was my first Hemingway novel. I had a fantastic high school English teacher who still influences the way I think about reading.

I think I mostly liked it because there's a fishing trip in the middle and lots of drinking wine with peasants and also I should learn a bunch of languages so I can go out in the world.

What surprises me this time is the opening of the book. "Robert Cohn was a Jew from Princeton who took up boxing because Princeton made him feel insecure about being a Jew at Princeton. He broke his Jew nose boxing and that improved it".

That's a paraphrase, but it's the effect. I also noticed recently in the short story "The Battler" that H could be very casual with the N word. I don't really remember noticing these things all those years ago.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:29 AM (fuK7c)

49 Good Sunday morning, horde!

Still reading The Poppy War--I didn't do much recreational reading this week.

I am thinking of going to church this morning, but on the fence. Haven't been a church-goer in my adult life, and was raised Methodist, but there is a Catholic church just a block away from me in this small town. I've been a few times, but the songs are different and I am lost with the ritual.

I kinda feel like I should go, but I really don't much care for church. Decisions.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:29 AM (OX9vb)

50 Another empty library.

Posted by: Chouinard at August 18, 2019 09:29 AM (ua1m6)

51 Or I could just keep hanging around here, which I really like a lot.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:30 AM (OX9vb)

52 I suspect that any really popular books are not on the list. That was the problem I had with prime. All the good movies I already had and their selection was very limited.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:30 AM (mpXpK)

53
I'm on a discussion board about Vorführeffekt and no one can come up with an English equivalent.

People have tried Murphy's Law, but that's too generalized. The Brits have a Sod's Law, which is Murphy with the stipulation that it go wrong in the worst possible way.

The word isn't in the main dictionary (dict.leo.org is your friend if you German), but all of the Germans in the discussion group are familiar with it and looking for the way to express the same thing in English.

There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019


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"The demonstration failure effect"?

"The demonstration embarrassment effect"?

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:31 AM (4c+5M)

54 the songs are different and I am lost with the ritual.



That's exactly how I felt when I got married and started going to Rev's church (Lutheran). It took me months to figure out the liturgy. I'm not really a liturgical person.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:31 AM (lwiT4)

55 My tongue-bath interview with Mayor Buttplug was delish!

Posted by: Fake Fapper at August 18, 2019 09:32 AM (NjJUT)

56 *deep sigh* Oh, the books already mentioned or discussed which have piqued my interest...
I finished that first Maisie Dobbs mystery this week - don't think that I'll carry on with the others, just yet. Got another couple of chapters into Cruise of the Lanakei ... and started the first of Alma Boykin's Colplatschki series - which is at least mildly interesting.

The Daughter Unit and I were at a launch party for another local author last night; at the Lone Star Lounge on New Braunfels' Main Street. Met up with a handful of other local authors, including two that will be at the Giddings Word Wrangler next month - so yay! We can say that we have a real-world social life! We've committed to visiting the middle school to talk to three sixth grade classes about writing and storytelling; all part of trying to grow another generation of readers, you see.

Posted by: Sgt. Mom at August 18, 2019 09:32 AM (xnmPy)

57 Grammie, If you have Amazon Prime, keep an eye out for daily book deals. We are not interested in most of them, but sometimes they put Agatha Christie on sale or for free.

Posted by: Mrs. JTB at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (bmdz3)

58 Just finished A Little Rebellion, third in the Crimson World Series. Jay Allen.
Great Heinlein-esque space opera. The only problem is that I got to the end and see that there are six, count 'em, six more books in the series! I'm not sure I can stay with it that long.
Seems to me a story can be told in a trilogy.
For those of us with shorter attention spans.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (RqZyu)

59 I suspect that any really popular books are not on
the list. That was the problem I had with prime. All the good movies I
already had and their selection was very limited.


Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:30 AM (mpXpK)



Yes, the really popular books probably will not be on KU. I was hoping the latest Daniel Silva book would be, but alas. That one I will have to check out from the library.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:33 AM (lwiT4)

60 Good morning, readers and writers!

I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (i/wJA)

61 Mrs JTB - I did not know that! Thanks for the tip!

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (lwiT4)

62 I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?
Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM

Book 9 is upside down.

Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (TDyHc)

63 Reading Nothing Lost, by John Gregory Dunne, who wrote True Confessions. It's sort of a John Grisham courtroom novel, told from several viewpoints. One of his narrators, Max Cline (a self-described "queer Jew"), even mentions Grisham's novels at one point.

I was really bored by True Confessions -- maybe the movie with DeNiro was better -- but this is at leas entertaining.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (4c+5M)

64 I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?
Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:34 AM (i/wJA)

#6 is showing as #9, upside down.

Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (2GPSc)

65 Tolle Lege
Finally took my own advice and am reading With Eagles to Glory by John Gill, it's a historical account of France's German allies during the 1809 Aspern-Essling and Wagram campaigns.
Two things to help get reading again, first something your very interesting in and two it was free on Amazon.
Still might be but not sure, it's a third edition.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (BbGew)

66 Book 9 is upside down.
Posted by: Jake Holenhead at August 18, 2019 09:36 AM (TDyHc)


*smacks forehead*

Thanks, Jake.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (i/wJA)

67 K-K-K Katy, written 1917, by a Canadian!

The lyrics tell of a brave but awkward soldier called Jimmy who is lovesick over the beautiful Katy. He buys a wedding ring before going to fight in France.
Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 09:13 AM (Tnijr)


I am familiar with that song. I heard it growing up. You don't sing 'K K K' as in 'bedsheet-wearing clowns' but you make the 'kuh' K sound like you're stuttering:

"K-K-K-Katy
Beautiful Katy
I'll be waiting at the
K-K-K-kitchen door"


Don't know how the rest goes.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (JVrQi)

68 I didn't get it either, Emmie.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (fuK7c)

69
I am thinking of going to church this morning, but on the fence. Haven't been a church-goer in my adult life, and was raised Methodist, but there is a Catholic church just a block away from me in this small town. I've been a few times, but the songs are different and I am lost with the ritual.

I kinda feel like I should go, but I really don't much care for church. Decisions.
Posted by: April

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It's funny that you say you get lost in the ritual, because so many Catholics (back in my day at least) took comfort in that ritual.. and very much rebelled at any changes in it! The original Mass in Latin was always my favorite.

I haven't been to church in many years, myself.

Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (438dO)

70 Uhh, bander, that demonstration failure thing does have a word.
Erectile dysfunction.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (RqZyu)

71 #6 is showing as #9, upside down.
Posted by: one of the quite ones at August 18, 2019 09:37 AM (2GPSc)


Thank you.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:39 AM (i/wJA)

72 I'm afraid I don't "get" the pic with the caption about a missing book in the series. Will someone explain it, please?
Posted by: Emmie


*****

see mine at #46

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:39 AM (mvenn)

73 I am reading Henry James's novella The Turn of the Screw. I had forgotten how good it is. I don't think there are ghosts, I think the governess is bat shit crazy.

Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (OeWgo)

74 I finished a couple books this week. One was The Overstory by Richard Powers and it reminded me of why I swore off him a while back. It's very well written, although what passes for editing these days is very substandard with homonym and tense violations passing right through, and the characters are vividly portrayed. But all the praise for his writing makes him think he's really really smart about sciency things and he's not. First of all don't lecture me about man made science change, punk. You're just as fucking dumb as the presstitutes doing the same and I don't buy into it. At all. Second, we all like trees and admit that wantonly destroying them is wrong. But don't take some Secret Life of Plants nuttery and act like they're these really brilliant sentient beings that we're too fucking stupid to comprehend and that forest management to prevent fires is being daft. To his credit he presented his band of eco terrorists with varying degrees of sympathy. And he had a very interesting IT genius who got tired of creating software that created elaborate imaginary worlds and broke off to use advanced AIs to compile data on how planet earth really works. Things like that don't insult my intelligence while still being speculative. So I gave it a three on Goodreads. And a warning to the book group to up their game.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (y7DUB)

75 When you talk about storytellers, do not overlook comic strip creators.

Milton Caniff, the genius behind "Terry and the Pirates" and "Steve Canyon," said that his job was to sell tomorrow's newspaper.

I'm well into "Nine Princes of Amber." Amber, as best as I can define it, is the true realm of existence, and all others, such as our Earth, are merely substandard copies; that is, they differ from Amber in several respects -- the sky is red, the moons are violet, the dominant species have six fingers per hand -- you get the idea. The royal siblings are able to travel to these realms, called Shadows.

The princes of Amber are competing for the vacant throne. Corwin, the lead character, is allied with his brother Bleys, leading a military force against their hated brother Eric, who has claimed the crown.

Eric has just used control over the weather and other elements to stall Corwin's armada. Corwin has escaped to where Bleys' army is being raked by sandstorms and other nastiness. The body count is in the thousands.

Looks as if Eric will be the winner in this book, but there are four more novels to go.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (HztAI)

76 Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:31 AM (lwiT4)

54 Yeah, you were, what--Baptist? Pentecostal? Those would be so different. The thing I always liked best about church was the singing, and it just isn't the same in Catholic church.

So, I'm trying to decide--does God need us to go to church? Or is He ok with us worshiping and praying privately?

I guess this is off topic, so I'll be quiet about it now.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (OX9vb)

77 68 I didn't get it either, Emmie.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (fuK7c)


Want to sit in the doofus section with me?

By the way, I was hoping Mr. Bassman would be able to work some of his magic for you, but no one has called him back either.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:41 AM (i/wJA)

78 April, I vote that you should go ahead and go to the church, but of course you probably knew I would.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 09:42 AM (aXucN)

79 April - I was raised Baptist, then I went Big Box Non-denominational. I love the singing too. I'll be quiet about it now too, so as not to de-rail. I say, go. Now I'm zipping it.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 09:42 AM (lwiT4)

80 Re: ebooks, I do find that the library sites have a good selection. The big problem is that popular reads have a long waiting list.

I go ahead and have them auto-check out as soon as they are available, so then I'm pleasantly surprised when something shows up on my kindle that I was waiting to read.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OX9vb)

81 Also, we have that Little Golden Book above.

All together now: "Of course you do!"

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (aXucN)

82 76

I think God wants us to worship together when possible because Christ has said where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there. But, each Christian has his/her individual relationship with Christ, so alone time with Him is acceptable also. I will always defer to Grammie or Fen though! Just my two cents!

Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OeWgo)

83 Sometimes, while traveling, I take time out to go into the local library and join. They usually have electronic collections available and they are different one from the other. In addition to my local library I belong to three others.

Always borrow a book, as my skinflint grandfather would probably say, rather than give Lord Bezos money, if you can!

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:44 AM (NVYyb)

84 see mine at #46
Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:39 AM (mvenn)


*hearty chuckle*

I missed that as well as I was perusing comments for a clue.

It's time to get ready for church. I think I'll sit in the doofus section today.

Posted by: Emmie at August 18, 2019 09:44 AM (i/wJA)

85 Im on the fence about seaaon of ash, its an ambitious folliow up by volpi, actually thr 3rd such, coverinf fron 1920s america a siviet union, to 2000, hungary and germany become setpieces, he tackles genetics macroeconomics the soviet bioweapoms program

Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 09:45 AM (uWSeN)

86 Always borrow a book, as my skinflint grandfather would probably say, never return one.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:45 AM (fuK7c)

87 75 Looks as if Eric will be the winner in this book, but there are four more novels to go.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (HztAI)

That was a good series the first time I read it. I have i in the large paperbacks (2). I down loaded the Kindle version of the first two last year but I found that it wasn't as good the 3rd time around.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:46 AM (mpXpK)

88 A storyteller is an author who has the ability to keep you asking "What happened next? And then what happened? OK, and then what happened?" over and over again.

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An author frequently cited as such is action adventure novelist Rafael Sabatini, author of such works as Captain Blood, The Sea Hawk and Scaramouche. His technique is simple. Place the hero in some life threatening situation often by means of betrayal, have him navigate from one cliffhanger to another and a climax with an ironic surprise ending.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 09:46 AM (+y/Ru)

89 Of course you do.

We had it, too, in the wicker basket with all the cardboard childrens' books.
Books made of cardboard, not children.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:46 AM (RqZyu)

90 As part of my ongoing project to read old science fiction novels I managed to miss while growing up, I've been working my way through _The Godwhale_ by T.J. Bass. It's weirdly fascinating.

The story (such as it is) is about a motley group of far-future rebels aboard a giant whale-cyborg ocean harvester ship, battling against the totalitarian overpopulated land society called the Hive.

Yes, it's a 1970s "ecological" novel, but it's interesting to see how the focus of the environmental obsession has shifted. Bass's novel is dystopian, but the focus is on how overpopulation has resulted in dehumanization and totalitarian rule. In short, overpopulation and environmental destruction are bad because of what they do to humanity.

Contrast the modern "original sin" view that humanity is the problem, and the goal isn't stewardship but actual human extinction.

Anyway, the book's interesting. Bass knows his science (he was an M.D.) or at least can fake it convincingly (he was an M.D.). There are implausibilities (the oceans recover from being utterly sterile in an amazingly short time) and at times the bad guys have to pick up the "Idiot Ball" to give the good guys a chance of winning.

But overall it's a good book.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 18, 2019 09:47 AM (pQA5D)

91 One that always perturbed me:

Now I lay me down to sleep
I pray the lord my soul to keep
If I should die before I wake
I pray the Lord my soul to take


How many six-year-old kids have lain wide-eyed awake in bed after reciting that?

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:47 AM (mvenn)

92 65 Tolle Lege
Finally took my own advice and am reading With Eagles to Glory by John Gill, it's a historical account of France's German allies during the 1809 Aspern-Essling and Wagram campaigns.


Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019

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He really gets around, this Gill fellow. Last I heard he was running the planet Ekos.

Posted by: Wolfus Aurelius at August 18, 2019 09:48 AM (4c+5M)

93 The kindle versions are $6 each.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:48 AM (mpXpK)

94 Well, you gotta return them to friends Senor Bander. Some people can get ticklish about unreturned books. But, me? Go ahead, take them. One fewer in my house.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:49 AM (NVYyb)

95 I am reading Henry James's novella The Turn of the Screw. I had forgotten how good it is. I don't think there are ghosts, I think the governess is bat shit crazy.
Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:40 AM (OeWgo)


Henry James appeal is mainly lost to the young and assigning him to most high school students is sheer torture. When I reread The Portrait of a Lady post 60 I got a lot more out of it than when I first read it in my 30s or 40s, over and beyond the joys of rereading. Another bone of contention with my book group's numbskulls is they won't read more James which I've come out and told them illustrates their pedestrian tastes.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 09:50 AM (y7DUB)

96 94
Well, you gotta return them to friends Senor Bander. Some people can
get ticklish about unreturned books. But, me? Go ahead, take them.
One fewer in my house.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:49 AM (NVYyb)

I am very ticklish about my hardcover book, SC A History, that someone borrowed and hasn't returned. It was expensive as Hell because they use it for a textbook at USC (SC).

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:51 AM (mpXpK)

97 How many six-year-old kids have lain wide-eyed awake in bed after reciting that?


Yes, that always struck me as gruesome. So did when the bough breaks the baby will fall.

Of course, in my non-religious household it was

Now I lay me down to sleep
A bag of peanuts at my feet
If I should die before I wake
Give them to my brother Jake.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:51 AM (fuK7c)

98 Muldoon, that prayer disturbed me as a child. So much so that I wouldn't say prayers. It made me feel like I wanted to die. Heavy stuff for a less-than-seven-year-old!

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 09:52 AM (a4qVe)

99 76
I think God wants us to worship together when possible because Christ has said where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there. But, each Christian has his/her individual relationship with Christ, so alone time with Him is acceptable also. I will always defer to Grammie or Fen though! Just my two cents!
Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OeWgo)


The more older I get, the more I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing Christians can do.

The fact that the Hong Kong protestors are singing hymns reinforces this.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)

100 I was in church for a funeral yesterday. Our retired minister was leading it, and the (relatively speaking) new guy participated. It reminded me very forcefully of why he and I had to part ways.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (NVYyb)

101 "Rock-a-bye-baby" isn't a lullaby, and I don't know why anyone uses it that way. It's a play song: you hold the toddler and sing it, suiting actions to the words. Rock the kid at first, then pretend to drop when you get to "breaks" and put the kid down amid squeals of glee. You'll probably have to do it a few more times.

Posted by: Trimegistus at August 18, 2019 09:54 AM (pQA5D)

102 Trimegistus, my first introduction to biochem and nutrition was The Godwhale.
It also taught me the lie of "the greatest good for the greatest number" which distills down to "misery for everyone, forever."

Posted by: Kindltot at August 18, 2019 09:54 AM (q2o38)

103 How many six-year-old kids have lain wide-eyed awake in bed after reciting that?
Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 09:47 AM (mvenn)


Well, to be fair, I think this little prayer came from years ago, back when families losing one or two kids was not uncommon.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:55 AM (JVrQi)

104 Bluebell, we also had a Children's Hymn Book. The only song I remember is "Jesus wants me for a sun beam." As I kid I always heard it as sun bean.
Never could find them in the garden, but I pictured them as sunflower seeds.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 09:55 AM (RqZyu)

105 "Gorka ... Why We Fight" 4th Generation Warfare (although he doesn't use that term); i.e., a
return to limited "small wars" in the future rather than nations-at-arms
such as WWII."

thanks for that term, I'd heard it but never gave it much thought. So after a 12 minute You-Tube, I'm now an instant expert. ha
https://tinyurl.com/y6k65mbj
But yeah, the 4GW is ongoing as I see it, except our side (government/DeepState) is fighting for the globalists, their sides are fighting for themselves. We need to unite our "Christian Hemisphere", while retaining sovereignty. Europe may already be surrendered, idk. Notre Dame was symbolic ... we will see if the new one has a minaret.


imo this ties directly to OM's "Matter of Time" book ... blurb says "... why Westerners have become so present-minded. Why collective
self-confidence has been lost and vapid, cheap, entertainment seems so
appealing." As I see it, the Why, is that DeepState has picked up the ball from the old Soviet infiltration, and it is all one big 4GW against Western Civ.

The DS is attacking elements Liberty on multiple small war fronts (Hollywood, education, news, infiltrated government bureaucracy, corporate autonomy (?), academic fascism, infiltrated churches ... now with the DeathStar of Google thought control fully operational.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 09:56 AM (Cus5s)

106 Most of the grand European library photos depress me, but at least the eye ties seem to want to resist Islam. I hope the rest of West Europe have the sense to evacuate their cultural treasures to the US once the ummah begins asserting its rights over Europe. Though I'm not sure if they care to be remembered in posterity, even.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 09:56 AM (+Vf+y)

107 Having been raised a Catholic, as well as being saved and baptized a Baptist and currently not "churched"; I am lost on cultivating the relationship with Christ. I pray daily to our Heavenly Father. I speak with him frequently, but I really don't understand my place with Christ. Any books or thoughts hordians?

Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 09:57 AM (a4qVe)

108 "Alas, Babylon" by Pat Frank Kindle edition Normally $15.99 is available for $1.99 @ Amazon right now

Posted by: Ken at August 18, 2019 09:57 AM (G6QBb)

109 The current version of that song was written in the 17 hundreds.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 09:58 AM (mpXpK)

110 Our retired minister was fantastic, starting his homily with Noah being promised a rainbow and finishing with the lyric from When You Wish Upon A Star

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:00 AM (NVYyb)

111 I really don't understand my place with Christ. Any books or thoughts hordians?


Start at the Book of Matthew and keep going all the way through.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:00 AM (lwiT4)

112 I think God wants us to worship together when possible because Christ has said where two or three are gathered in My name, I am there. But, each Christian has his/her individual relationship with Christ, so alone time with Him is acceptable also. I will always defer to Grammie or Fen though! Just my two cents!
Posted by: jmel at August 18, 2019 09:43 AM (OeWgo)


Your contribution is worth more. The practice of religion is a social thing. You can engage in private contemplation to figure things out but the actual practice is a joint celebration. This shouldn't be controversial.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:01 AM (y7DUB)

113 107: CS Lewis' The Case for Christianity

Posted by: CN at August 18, 2019 10:01 AM (U7k5w)

114 Question because I don't really know. When it comes to kindle ebooks, you don't actually own them do you?

You are paying for access that can go away?

Posted by: Booky MacBookface at August 18, 2019 10:01 AM (vqIkG)

115 You own Kindle books.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:03 AM (fuK7c)

116 Start at the Book of Matthew and keep going all the way through.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:00 AM (lwiT4)
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Good idea. And I will add, get a study guide to help you understand. Otherwise a lot of it may seem cryptic. Not Matthew in particular, but the Bible in general.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:03 AM (lCuSi)

117 Got to get my day going. First order of business is to change out of tighty whities. Otherwise the ONT folks will laugh and point.

Posted by: RI Red at August 18, 2019 10:04 AM (RqZyu)

118 I was watching Veronica Mars when the book The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin was presented as proof that the child reader was smart and sensitive. I'd never heard of it so I looked it up and saw that it is a beloved, award winning children's mystery novel. So I thought I'd read it.

It concerns the death of an eccentric millionaire who relies on the greed of his enemies to seek revenge from beyond the grave. He sets up an elaborate game in which the winner will reveal his murderer and inherit his fortune. I have not finished but it doesn't particularly appeal to me. The setup is too artificial for me, the writing itself is rather pedestrian and likeable characters are few and far between. However the mystery of what is actually happening keeps me reading and I think I've figured out a major message/clue which will likely appeal to conservatives.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 10:05 AM (+y/Ru)

119 117 Got to get my day going. First order of business is to change out of tighty whities. Otherwise the ONT folks will laugh and point.

I just sit an a bowl of bleach.

Posted by: Ouch at August 18, 2019 10:05 AM (qul7b)

120 Yes, unless you can download in some form free of DRM, you don't own anything you buy. This is also true for music, video, and cloud-based software. The people you purchased the viewing rights from may alter or remove content at will.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:05 AM (+Vf+y)

121 Well, to be fair, I think this little prayer came from years ago, back when families losing one or two kids was not uncommon.
Posted by: OregonMuse.

******

True enough. There is a small abandoned cemetery near our place with tombstones dating from the 1870's. Of 10 markers, four are of children, including two siblings under age three who died within two days of each other.

Still, the line from the prayer seems pretty stark and almost threatening as opposed to comforting.

Posted by: Muldoon at August 18, 2019 10:06 AM (mvenn)

122 The DS is attacking elements Liberty on multiple small war fronts (Hollywood, education, news, infiltrated government bureaucracy, corporate autonomy (?), academic fascism, infiltrated churches ... now with the DeathStar of Google thought control fully operational.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 09:56 AM (Cus5s)


I agree. That's why I have begun planning to have my two grandsons read some of the older books about the American heroes that I read when I was a boy. Those books are still out there, although some becoming rather expensive. My plan is: read this book and Pop-Pop is going to give you a reward. Thus, gradually counter the anti-American crap that they constantly here but not be preachy about it and give them a pay-out. My Mom paid me to read (her goal was just to jump-start my reading because I was a "reluctant reader") but she admitted that she created a person that loved to read.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 10:06 AM (5Yee7)

123 115
You own Kindle books.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:03 AM (fuK7c)

But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it. And if it like about half of my books that Amazon never recovered after deleting my library it is gone for good.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:07 AM (mpXpK)

124 The people you purchased the viewing rights from may alter or remove content at will.
Posted by: Yudhishthira's

They stole Vic's books and hid them in LadyL's driveway for awhile.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 10:07 AM (arJlL)

125 You own Kindle books.
Posted by: Bandersnatch

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Incorrect.

"All content included in or made available through any Amazon Service, such as text, graphics, logos, button icons, images, audio clips, digital downloads, and data compilations is the property of Amazon or its content suppliers and protected by United States and international copyright laws."

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:08 AM (+Vf+y)

126 But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it.


That is not my experience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:08 AM (fuK7c)

127 Thanks for the answers. Looks like a divided result. 1 Yay and 1 nay.

I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (vqIkG)

128 Cheriebebe, et al. The Epistles to the Romans, Ephesians, Galatians, Colossians, Philippians, and Hebrews; then the Gospel of John. Then C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity. Then Robert Boyd Munger, My Heart, Christ's Home. Then two devotional works by E. Young, The Word at Work and The Spirit at Work. Sincere good wishes and blessings to you!

Posted by: A little help at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (zVPWv)

129 Amazon did remotely wipe copies of "1984" (of all things, right?) from peoples' Kindles. It looked pretty bad for them, as you can imagine. My monkey-level understanding of the case is that the publisher only had electronic distribution rights in the UK, but copies had been sold elsewhere, so it's more analogous to receiving a copy that someone didn't have the right to sell you.

That said, people did in fact wake up one morning to discover that their copies of "1984" had disappeared down the memory hole.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y2avwbyq

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (t+qrx)

130 American Ulysses. Bio of US Grant.

Posted by: BluesFish at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (WQZ1O)

131 126
But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it.





That is not my experience.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:08 AM (fuK7c)

Go through your library on your device and find one with no check mark on the cover and open it while the modem is not connected.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (mpXpK)

132 K K K Katy,
Beautiful Katy,
You're the only G G G girl that I adore.When the M Moon shines
Over the M mountain,I'll be waiting at the K K K kitchen door."

I'm embarrassed to admit that's from memory.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 10:10 AM (RuhkN)

133 Posted by: Cheriebebe at August 18, 2019 09:57 AM (a4qVe)

That's kind of where I am, also.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (OX9vb)

134 My bride returns today from another fishing trip, to Wyoming this time. She goes with a group of four high school girl friends. The dogs and I are supposed to make dinner, which requires I fo to the grocery store. Think I will get to that.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (NVYyb)

135 127 I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (vqIkG)

I suspect it doesn't matter what you reader is if you get it from Amazon. I had some I bought directly from the publisher though that did not do that. But I lost all of those when my App collapsed.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (mpXpK)

136 Amazon did remotely wipe copies of "1984" (of all things, right?)


Huh. I didn't know they had the ability to do that.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (fuK7c)

137 There are two parts to the Catholic Mass. The first part is "the liturgy of the Word" which varies week to week in a three year cycle. The second part is "the liturgy of the Eucharist" which does not vary.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:13 AM (I5SAg)

138 The more older I get, the more I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing Christians can do.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)
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The Catholic interpretation of "Remember to keep holy the Sabbath day" includes going to Mass on Sunday. That is why it is a requirement of Catholicism and it is a mortal sin if you miss Sunday Mass without a good reason (although many Catholics were never taught this or have forgotten this).

And of course, personal prayer to God is always encouraged! But Sunday worship for us is a must.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (aXucN)

139 To mark August 17th being the 50th anniversary of Hurricane Camille devastating the Gulf Coast I decided to finally read Philip D. Hearn's Hurricane Camille: Monster Storm of the Gulf Coast which was published in 2004 by University Press of Mississippi.

I was frankly disappointed in the overall layout of the chapters. Upon reflection it seems Hearn could not decide if he was writing a purely historical 'just the facts' type book or an oral history as the first chapter is built around people's impressions and reactions to Camille's approach while the second and third document the history of the Mississippi Gulf Coast and what makes a hurricane. Fourth chapter switches focus back to people's recollections and fifth chapter again goes into 'just the facts' mode. The sixth chapter is again about the people while the final chapter is spent trying to forecast the next Camille and what should be done.

This is not to say I did not find anything interesting in the book as I did. Camille was a compact and fast moving storm, New Orleans and Mobile barely felt tropical storm winds and rain as the eight mile wide eye of Camille came ashore in Pass Christian and would punch through the Gulf Coast in a mere three hours late that Sunday night in 1969. Or in the aftermath of the storm in Ocean Springs, National Guard troops would get into a fire fight with looters. That for a few years after the storm, some survivors would have a party in their driveways to eat Vienna sausages and drink booze diluted by water. And the true story of what happened at Richelieu Apartments in Pass Christian is documented to refute the false tale pushed by Gerlach of there being a hurricane party.

One thing that would immensely help any reader who is not familiar with the Mississippi Gulf Coast, Hearn should have provided at least one map to help visualize the locales.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (6zCBb)

140 I thought Amazon said that 1984 snafu was not for all copies of the book, only for one version that was the subject of a copyright infringement suit.

Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (NVYyb)

141 Huh. I didn't know they had the ability to do that.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:12 AM (fuK7c)

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Yup. They haven't begun rampantly censoring wrongthink (yet, they will, though).

But you sign an agreement explicitly stating you have no rights to the content, only that you purchased a right foot to be "made available," dependent on the approval of Amazon.

Virtually all web-based content from any company carries the same caveat.

Unless you possess a local, digital copy, free of DRM, someone else actually owns it.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:18 AM (+Vf+y)

142 OK, I'ma go. Be back later.

Posted by: April at August 18, 2019 10:18 AM (OX9vb)

143 They can not delete it if your device is not connected to the modem. And Amazon says it has changed its policy and will no longer delete books on people's devices. But as I said you have to re-download it periodically to open it.

https://tinyurl.com/mkbp75g

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:20 AM (mpXpK)

144 I bailed on my KU membership last month when I realized it was accelerating the deterioration of my mind. I found myself reading junk just because it was free.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (RuhkN)

145 I've been reading "The Subtle Art of Not Giving a F*ck" which I have seen recommended at the HQ on a couple of occasions. Quite profane, and humorous in places, the book seems to draw inspiration from the Stoics in some of its basic premises. One such premise is that life, a great deal of the time, is a giant shit sandwich and characterized by struggle, strife, and negative occurrences. The sooner one accepts this, the sooner one can start learning how to cope with these things and approach them more constructively. We have a finite number of fucks to give, and giving them all, all the time, about everything, is a formula for disaster.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)

146 Bye April!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (aXucN)

147 The second book I finished was The Gypsy's Curse by Harry Crews. Like most of his books I was bouncing along thoroughly enjoying every vignette but noticing the pages were dwindled and I had no clue of how he'd wrap that sucker up. Welp he did in magnificent fashion. Library of America needs to visit a proctologist to remove that stick up their ass and release his collected works before the publishing dimwits let all his stuff go OOP.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (y7DUB)

148 Our pastor does expositional reading tbrough romans acts and were finishing with luke he also provides much of the context to the events of the times

Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (uWSeN)

149 Quite profane, and humorous in places,

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)
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And again, you know what I am going to say.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (aXucN)

150 149 Quite profane, and humorous in places,

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:21 AM (NWiLs)
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And again, you know what I am going to say.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (aXucN)

Heh. I do indeed.

Posted by: Insomniac at August 18, 2019 10:23 AM (NWiLs)

151 Here's a plausible scenario for having two Presidents:
A number of states have passed or are passing laws to keep a candidate off the ballot if they do not release their tax returns. PDJT does not release his returns and is not on the ballot in one or more states. On election day He loses the electoral college by a few points. He files suit and appeals on the grounds that releasing tax returns is not a constitutional requirement for President. While the court process is playing out, the Democrat-dominated Electors vote in Elizabeth Warren.

Posted by: motionview at August 18, 2019 10:24 AM (pYQR/)

152 Autocucumber is really fucking with me this morning.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:25 AM (y7DUB)

153 The more older I get, the more I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing Christians can do.

The fact that the Hong Kong protestors are singing hymns reinforces this.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:53 AM (JVrQi)
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The older I get, the less I care if anyone is offended when I come right out and proclaim that I am a Christian that believe in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 18, 2019 10:25 AM (WEBkv)

154 Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:20 AM (mpXpK)

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Yes, but again, this is a matter of corporate policy... subject to change without notice... the content still doesn't belong to their customers in any legal sense.

It's like going to a museum. You pay for your ticket to enter. But if the museum decides to have a guard walk in, take the painting you're viewing off the wall and set fire to it, they're completely within their rights to do that.

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 10:25 AM (+Vf+y)

155 "I'm starting to believe that, other than loving God and loving one
another, the public worship of Jesus Christ is the most important thing
Christians can do."

imo, it is parallel to the constitution. Individual sovereignty, but cooperation is needed in fighting coordinated enemies. That is true in the community, and to other extents, nationally, or maybe across the West. Certainly the left's 4GW (my new bone, got it in my teeth for now, ha) ... the enemy has infiltrated churches as part of their PsyOp war to divide us. It was clearly an old Soviet tactic ... (and probably the devilish tactic going back to the Apostle Paul)

And as with government, the individual must be always diligent or they lose control to centralized power, and that power corrupts.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (Cus5s)

156 I found myself reading junk just because it was free.


One of the beauties of Kindle is how many of the classics are free. If it's out of copyright it's likely free on Kindle.

I'm charging mine right now so I can't check but I've downloaded Melville, Conrad, Twain, Turgenev, Conan Doye (the putz!), Cervantes, Henry James (mentioned above, I hated "The American", but at least now I've read it), and more all for absolutely free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (fuK7c)

157 Bill Maher called the BDS movement "a bullshit purity test by people who want to appear woke but actually slept through history class," and Ratshit Taliban can't deal.

Rashida Tlaib@RashidaTlaib

Maybe folks should boycott his show.

I am tired of folks discrediting a form of speech that is centered on equality and freedom. This is exactly how they tried to discredit and stop the boycott to stand up against the apartheid in S. Africa. It didn't work then and it won't now.

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I'm not sure that promising to make Israel into the glory that is South Africa is as powerful an argument as you think it is, Ratshit.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (+y/Ru)

158 Our pastor does expositional reading tbrough romans acts and were finishing with luke he also provides much of the context to the events of the times
Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 10:22 AM (uWSeN)
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That's so important, isn't it? It makes a world of difference, to me anyway.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (aXucN)

159 And of course, personal prayer to God is always encouraged! But Sunday worship for us is a must.
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (aXucN)
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For me, Sunday worship is where I go to escape the world and refocus on what matters.

Posted by: blake - used pronoun salesman at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (WEBkv)

160 I thought Amazon said that 1984 snafu was not for all copies of the book, only for one version that was the subject of a copyright infringement suit.
Posted by: Huck Follywood at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (NVYyb)


Yes, the version was sold by a publisher that didn't hold the copyright to the appropriate region or something. It wasn't Amazon just being jerks on general principle; if they hadn't pulled it, they'd be on the hook for facilitating copyright infringement, same as if someone in Eastern Europe were to sell bootleg digital copies of a cookbook that was under copyright. And they gave refunds, apologized, and said they wouldn't do it again. But it did happen, and could again. Even if they no longer have the ability to remotely remove the book, they can withhold the decryption key.

https://preview.tinyurl.com/y23wsp4r

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:27 AM (t+qrx)

161 It is not a mortal sin to miss Sunday Mass. "For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: 'Mortal sin is a sin whose object is a grave matter and is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."

The five precepts of the Catholic Church:

1. You shall attend Mass on Sundays and holy days of obligation and rest from servile labor.

2. You shall confess your sins at least once a year.

3. You shall receive the sacrament of the Eucharist at least during the Easter season.

4. You shall observe the days of fasting and abstinence established by the Church.

5. You shall help to provide the needs of the Church.



It

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:29 AM (I5SAg)

162 One thing that would immensely help any reader who is not familiar with the Mississippi Gulf Coast, Hearn should have provided at least one map to help visualize the locales.
Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:16 AM (6zCBb)


Inexcusable. To understand any historical event the reader has to know "where did this happen and what were things like around it".

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:29 AM (y7DUB)

163 JAS, it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday without a good reason. If you knowingly miss Mass just because you don't feel like going, for example, that's a grave matter committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent.

Ask your priest about this if you don't believe me.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:31 AM (aXucN)

164 JAS, it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday without a good reason.

So what are you doing here, child? Scurry off to Mass!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:32 AM (fuK7c)

165 One of the other vignettes that sticks with me after reading Hearn's book is that of one survivor who is witnessing his double French doors popping off the hinges and his Olds 88 trying to float into the house due to the storm surge. He had to open the doors on the car to make it sink and then remembered he had put in the trunk of the car for safekeeping all the electronics from his boat. After Camille no trace of the boat was ever found.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:33 AM (6zCBb)

166 Way ahead of you, Bander. We went to 8:00 Mass.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:33 AM (aXucN)

167 finally got thru to the eye doc - he left vm that he'd see me at 1 today
hopefully it's another big nothing
thanks horde

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 10:35 AM (+72t1)

168 John Batchelor is a great interviewer. He has a wide variety of guests.

Posted by: Mr Aspirin Factory at August 18, 2019 09:05 AM (nDe2U)



Once upon a time, he was known as -

John Calvin Batchelor....a novelist!


He wrote two pretty good novels -

"The Birth of The Peoples Republic of Antarctica" -

which I believe most morons would like.

And-

"American Falls" - near great book concerning NYC in the Civil War times, but he loves his characters too much to bring the book to a satisfactory end.

He wrote several others not nearly as good.

Plus, a TIME reviewed, log-rolling success thriller titled-

"Father's Day" - not very good, however good enough to be optioned for a (never produced?) movie. All the cliches of it's time are there.

JCB admitted that he wrote it to enable him to pay for college for his daughter...so mission accomplished!

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 10:35 AM (mIQCW)

169 So sorry bluebell. A grave matter is a biggie. Like Grand theft, or murder. Grave means grave. Serious. btw, I attend Mass every Sunday and on holy days of obligation.

1855: "Mortal sin destroys charity in the heart of man by a grave violation of God's law. It turns man away from God, who is his ultimate end and his beatitude, by preferring an inferior good to him."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:36 AM (I5SAg)

170 Oecolampadius, Sermons on 1John: A Handbook for the Christian Life, covers one of the most important and most basic letters in the Bible.

Posted by: Slow learner at August 18, 2019 10:38 AM (zVPWv)

171 1858: "Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments,..."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (I5SAg)

172 Or as the storm waters of Camille destroys the house around them; a woman and her disabled sister join in praying to God as the maid reads aloud from the Bible while holding a hammer in one hand.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (6zCBb)

173 JAS, I think you should ask your priest about this.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (aXucN)

174 I'm not sure that promising to make Israel into the glory that is South Africa is as powerful an argument as you think it is, Ratshit.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (+y/Ru)


One of my kollidge roomies was a consultant on designing and building prisons. He travelled to a lot of places that wouldn't be on my A list to visit; he absolutely loved being in Mexico City, for example. South Africa was the only place where he felt constantly at risk and couldn't get out of there soon enough.

The do gooders really screwed the pooch.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (y7DUB)

175 164 JAS, it is a mortal sin to miss Mass on Sunday without a good reason.
So what are you doing here, child? Scurry off to Mass!

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:32 AM (fuK7c)


( *Ponders* ) I wonder if I could petition the Pope to give special dispensations to morons who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (JVrQi)

176 Sermons on 1John: A Handbook for the Christian Life, covers one of the most important and most basic letters in the Bible.

Posted by: Slow learner at August 18, 2019 10:38 AM (zVPWv)


John is much less 'Ooooo Ahhhh Wow!' than the other Gospels, and much more 'Jesus is God - and here's why.' There are only 7 miracles described in John.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:40 AM (lwiT4)

177 Part 3, Article 8 of the Catechism is very straightforward.

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (I5SAg)

178

Willful murder and missing Mass are both Mortal Sins which will condemn your soul to Hell forever?

Can you buy an Indulgence to miss Mass?

Posted by: Ouch at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (qul7b)

179 156 One of the beauties of Kindle is how many of the classics are free. If it's out of copyright it's likely free on Kindle.



I'm charging mine right now so I can't check but I've downloaded
Melville, Conrad, Twain, Turgenev, Conan Doye (the putz!), Cervantes,
Henry James (mentioned above, I hated "The American", but at least now
I've read it), and more all for absolutely free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (fuK7c)


If you go to Gutenberg you can download it for free. But I have had a lot of difficulty getting it to my device and having it recognize it as there.. Amazon charges a small fee for those and I just go ahead and get it from them.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (mpXpK)

180 Once again, I am linking an essay from Gatestone, which is relevant to today's discussion of Christianity and observance:

https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org /14691/extinction-christians-middle-east

The torturous summer cold that has just about done me in is finally breaking up and maybe I can concentrate for longer than 30 mins (a short essay) and get back to regular books.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (MIKMs)

181
'Jesus is God - and here's why.' There are only 7 miracles described in John...Number 5 will shock you!!!

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182 South Africa was the only place where he felt constantly at risk and couldn't get out of there soon enough.




Thanks for that. My daughter is in South Africa as we speak

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:42 AM (lwiT4)

183 ( *Ponders* ) I wonder if I could petition the Pope to give special dispensations to morons who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM (JVrQi)


Only if we have a joint reading of Das Kapital and like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (y7DUB)

184 - 145 insomniac: that's very interesting.

- so who's the guy reading in the library? bruce lee?

- ok, i'm watching tv, not reading, and lindsey graham is walking tall on maria bartiromo (who does a bang-up job, generally).

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (Pg+x7)

185 As Camille did the unexpected and stayed on course to hit the coast, Paul Williams took shelter with his wife, his children, and two grand children in Trinity Episcopal Church in Pass Christian. By the break of day on the 18th, Paul Williams had lost his wife, all but two of his children, one grand child was killed, and the other grand child was never found.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (6zCBb)

186 Hi, Grammie. Thanks for the tip. I think the book of sermons, though, is on the First Epistle of John, as I recall, not the Gospel. Have a great day. I'll go hunting for those miracles!

Posted by: Slow learner at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (zVPWv)

187 Sorry guys, didn't mean to derail the Book Thread.

More on topic, I am reading through the Flavia de Luce books recommended by Eris, and they are just the thing for bedtime reading - light, funny, and mysterious! Many thanks to you, Eris, if you are here.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)

188 ... graham on russia-gate, not red flag laws, i.e.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (Pg+x7)

189 Missing Mass is a violation of the Precepts of the Church. But I bristle when someone calls it a mortal sin.

2041: "...The obligatory character of these positive laws decreed ... is meant to guarantee to the faithful the very necessary minimum in the spirit of prayer and moral effort, in the growth in love of God and neighbor."

Posted by: JAS at August 18, 2019 10:46 AM (I5SAg)

190 Nice library! Do they have a permanent display for the Weiner-Mobile?

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at August 18, 2019 10:46 AM (XuBZu)

191 One of the beauties of Kindle is how many of the classics are free. If it's out of copyright it's likely free on Kindle.

I'm charging mine right now so I can't check but I've downloaded Melville, Conrad, Twain, Turgenev, Conan Doye (the putz!), Cervantes, Henry James (mentioned above, I hated "The American", but at least now I've read it), and more all for absolutely free.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:26 AM (fuK7c)


We among the Horde have had this debate before. Digital media certainly has a portability advantage over books. But digital media is not permanent and can deleted/altered easily by the Big Brother. The only way I'm losing my books to the Thought Police is if they show up on my door-step (and then I have more immediate concerns than propaganda messages).

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 10:46 AM (5Yee7)

192 Thanks for that. My daughter is in South Africa as we speak

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:42 AM (lwiT4)


He might've been in a really bad area compared to her. Iirc Jane D'oh vacationed there and didn't like it much.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (y7DUB)

193 Last night on the Movie Thread people mentioned the slow, nothingness of the movie-

"Stalker".

However, "Stalker" is based on one of the greatest SF novellas of all time IMHO-

"A Roadside Picnic" by Arkady and Boris Strugatsky

Hard to find cheap. But, very much worth the read.

Buy it today.



"Stalker" is but a pale shadow of "Roadside Picnic".


Though in fairness to Tarkovsky, "Stalker" was to be a movie that adhered much more closely to the written story with great (for the time) special effects.

Unfortunately, the lab with all of the special effects footage burned to the ground(if I'm remembering correctly) and destroyed every bit of those parts of the film.

They couldn't afford to redo those parts.

So, Tarkovsky re-editted and reshot some scenes and it "Stalker" became the slow, pointless movie you know and love where people talk a lot about the dangers or difficulties which we, the movie goers, never see or experience.

Pro-Tip: Movies are a visual medium.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (mIQCW)

194 For reasons I don't understand, I'm reading rock and roll biographies at the moment. First I read Pete Townshend's "Who I Am," and now I'm reading Keith Richard's "Life."

Strangely enough, the latter is way more accessible and interesting than the former.


Also, if you're going to invite a living member of The Who over to your house, it should be Roger Daltrey.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (AkkRZ)

195 More on topic, I am reading through the Flavia de
Luce books recommended by Eris, and they are just the thing for bedtime
reading - light, funny, and mysterious! Many thanks to you, Eris, if
you are here.





Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)



I love Flavia. I wish the author would write another book in the series, but it looks like the last book was published several years ago. Nothing since.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (lwiT4)

196 116 -

Yes, if you want to talk about cryptic, read John.

Posted by: Matthew, Mark, and Luke at August 18, 2019 10:48 AM (oaP2c)

197 I'm on a discussion board about Vorführeffekt and no one can come up with an English equivalent.....


There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".

====

My I try this ? How about "fail". Not as a verb, but a noun ? And not "failure" ?

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:48 AM (bUjCl)

198 'the demonstration effect' refers to a situation in which something stops working, and then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.

It's like when you're having trouble explaining just how corrupt the Clintons are--and then they off Epstein.

Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 18, 2019 10:48 AM (Ndje9)

199 Razorfist: Epstein is fake noose.

Posted by: BourbonChicken at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (LxTcq)

200 love Flavia. I wish the author would write another book in the series, but it looks like the last book was published several years ago. Nothing since.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (lwiT4)
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Oh no! Your comment made me run to do a search, and I found his website. His latest blog entry is from Feb. 2, 2019 announcing "The Golden Tresses of the Dead," so hopefully he is still writing.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (aXucN)

201 194 shibumi:

keith richards is a voracious reader and has a very large library.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (Pg+x7)

202 Re childrens' books --

The illustrator of that prayer one did a lot back in the day. One of my kids was absolutely in love with her illustrations and wanted to 'live there' in those simple stories. I never figured out what enthralled her so much, but stocked up on as many as I could find. She is not much of a reader still.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (MIKMs)

203 I don't use Amazon for books very often, because of the possibility of them snatching them back. The few I have I have stripped the drm and placed them in my Calibre ebook management system. They can't get to them there.

Posted by: Abby at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (eejEu)

204 OK, got enough juice into my Kindle to fisk this:

But you have to re-download it periodically. If it doesn't have a check mark on it you have to re-download it before opening it.

If it doesn't have a checkmark it's in your library but you haven't downloaded it.* The check means that you have downloaded it and it's resident on your device.

If you clear space for new books the cleared books are still in your library and can be re-downloaded later, but any book resident on your device is yours and will stay there without maintenance.

(With the sole exception of the 1984 incident).

And as to the copyright and ownership by Amazon quoted above, they're saying that either they or their partners own the copyright and are therefore entitled to sell it to you.

*It is also possible to share a library with someone. I share mine with a 'ette because it seemed like a fun idea at the time but our reading lists have absolutely nothing in common. So, I can see her books but they're not mine until I download them to my Kindle.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (fuK7c)

205 Oh, I don't think I have anything to add to the church discussion. Carry on...

I'm on the road anyway.

Posted by: BurtTC at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (oaP2c)

206 keith richards is a voracious reader and has a very large library.


the keith richards ?

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (bUjCl)

207 Only if we have a joint reading of Das Kapital and like it.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:43 AM (y7DUB)


The AoSHQ Fact Check algorithm rates this statement: Probably true.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (JVrQi)

208 His latest blog entry is from Feb. 2, 2019 announcing "The Golden Tresses of the Dead," so hopefully he is still writing.





Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:50 AM (aXucN)



I did read that one. For some reason I thought it was from 2011. Duh. I hZ teh dumZ.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (lwiT4)

209 imo too many denominations become "institutionalized", and the tendency toward "whited sepulchers" is nothing new. A social vibrancy between "members" (or just neighbors?) is perhaps more important than devotion to a cold bureaucracy.


That is not an easy thing to maintain ... church elders have to pull a lot of weight, getting involved with families, reaching out to address personal needs ... more actual ministering as a servant, not lording over as an authority. .... Bureaucracy creep is also parallel to government concentration of power. Family is the first level of importance for Christian parents, imo. As with schools, one can't just turn the kids over to the bureaucracy and expect them to do magically implant Christianity, or goodness, whatever.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (Cus5s)

210 Yeah so number 6 is upside down, but where is #9 I wanted to check out.......can I just read #6 upside down till you cheapskates BUY #9!

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (5IHGB)

211 206 keith richards is a voracious reader and has a very large library.
the keith richards ?
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:51 AM (bUjCl)


Yes. I posted a pic of his library on the book thread two three years ago.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (JVrQi)

212 Read "Quick and Dirty" by Stuart Woods, which is what I would call a fun, beach mystery- as in a book that is pretty well plotted with a mystery that does not require a lot of thinking that you could read relaxing on the beach.
It is full of rich people in New York (which includes the investigator attorney Stone Barrington) and is about an art theft. There are other books with the main character in them.

Don't regret reading it and probably will read one or two more if I want light reading, but will not go out of my way to track down and read every book in the series.

Posted by: Charlotte at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (Rwqrz)

213 If you go to Gutenberg you can download it for free. But I have had a lot of difficulty getting it to my device and having it recognize it as there.. Amazon charges a small fee for those and I just go ahead and get it from them.
Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 10:41 AM (mpXpK)


If you're willing to do the work, the Calibre app (and probably others) will let you format the free content from Gutenberg (or anywhere else) for viewing on Kindle. Lots of control over typesetting, images, and such. But there's nothing wrong with paying someone to do the formatting for you either.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (t+qrx)

214 HaHa...the upside book reminds me of one of the greatest high school pranks I have ever heard of: A friend grew up in farm country, and on the last day of school, a group of seniors released 3 baby piglets into the school. They were numbered 1, 2 and 4.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 10:55 AM (ty7RM)

215 Yes. I posted a pic of his library on the book thread two three years ago.


huh, interesting.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (bUjCl)

216 I did read that one. For some reason I thought it was from 2011. Duh. I hZ teh dumZ.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:52 AM (lwiT4)
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Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (aXucN)

217 The book thread what shows Keith Richards' personal library:

http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=359842

Warning: Do NOT post on old threads. That's a autobanning offense.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (JVrQi)

218 Well the Bible is the book, why libraries were institited why thr print___ press came about.

Posted by: Admiral marcus at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (uWSeN)

219 Don't regret reading it and probably will read one
or two more if I want light reading, but will not go out of my way to
track down and read every book in the series.


Posted by: Charlotte at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (Rwqrz)



The neighbor lady had a garage sale with lots of Stuart Woods books. I took them all but haven't gotten around to reading them yet. The font is not unbearingly small, so I should be okay with them. That's what I like about my paperwhite - I can set the font size and boldness.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:56 AM (lwiT4)

220 The Milanese do a nice Starbucks...but where are the homeless and horde?OK it's morning Report time and I'm first in line for Caligula unexpurgated.

Oh it's closed for Bidens' RALLY.......or interment.

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 10:57 AM (5IHGB)

221 I was in Gulfport, Miss. during Camille. A few things I remember well; the howling noise and blackness, the drifts of roofing shingles, and the human behaviors dealing with the stress of living in the aftermath.

Posted by: Jinx the Cat at August 18, 2019 10:58 AM (knNho)

222 Elizabeth Peters was a very good writer/storyteller. Interesting that she lost so much cachet because her books were 'popular' -- Barbara Mertz, PhD, was dissed because of her popular writing. I think similar to Barbara Tuchman in being denigrated because of her popularity.

Posted by: mustbequantum at August 18, 2019 10:59 AM (MIKMs)

223 Also, if you're going to invite a living member of The Who over to your house, it should be Roger Daltrey.
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 10:47 AM (AkkRZ)


I would've never guessed that but his performance with that dimwit reporter over Brexit showed some Moron affinities. Plus wasn't Townsend accused of child porn? Sorry but lacking some reason the state would plant it on you that's a major red flag to even be accused. And some musicians are noted regular porn fans who've steered clear of that; John Mayall for example.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 10:59 AM (y7DUB)

224 213 If you're willing to do the work, the Calibre app
(and probably others) will let you format the free content from
Gutenberg (or anywhere else) for viewing on Kindle. Lots of control over
typesetting, images, and such. But there's nothing wrong with paying
someone to do the formatting for you either.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 10:53 AM (t+qrx)'
I don't think Gutenburg books have DRM on them.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (mpXpK)

225 Oh no, grammie - I was doing a little more searching, and on his agency's website it says "The Golden Tresses" is the 10th and final book in the series. Waaaaah!

https://tinyurl.com/y2axaef6

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (aXucN)

226 Oh the Keef library and stories are awesome.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (fuK7c)

227 Jinx, you should contact the University of Southern Mississippi to see if they are still compiling oral histories of Camille survivors.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 11:02 AM (6zCBb)

228 Oh no, grammie - I was doing a little more searching, and on his
agency's website it says "The Golden Tresses" is the 10th and final book
in the series. Waaaaah!



Oh crap. That little Flavia really gets to me. I will miss her. A wonderful character.

Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 11:02 AM (lwiT4)

229 Thank you, OM. That was good to see. I do not remember that one.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:03 AM (bUjCl)

230 Oh crap. That little Flavia really gets to me. I will miss her. A wonderful character.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 11:02 AM (lwiT4)
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Me too. We'll have to ask Eris to find us something new.

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:03 AM (aXucN)

231 I'm reading one of Fred Saberhagen's Berserker collections, The Ultimate Enemy. These stories are set in a universe where self-replicating machines whose only goal is to destroy life are menacing through human civilization as it exists in the future in numerous solar systems. It is guessed that the machines were built by an ancient, extinct civilization who intended they be used to wipe out their enemies and then they lost control of them (hence, extinct).

They're not great, but they're still quite enjoyable, and there's a bunch of them. Saberhagen was a Catholic, and he also wrote a book entitled Love Conquers All which I think is about abortion, but I haven't read it.

Posted by: Jim S. at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (ynUnH)

232 Weak Geek...the Amber series actually goes on for ten books. They've all been collected into a big ol' single volume, too, which I tried to get for my grandson this past Christmas, but someone had scarfed it already at BandN when I went to buy it. (It had been on the shelf for several months!)
All Zelazny's books are worth a read. Fourteen Hugo nominations, seven wins, back when it meant something

Posted by: Hierominous Botch at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (XuBZu)

233 FIRST!!!!!

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (aVNi6)

234 "1, 2 and 4"

I laughed at that one.

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (RuhkN)

235 Are there any techie morons/ettes around this a.m.? I an older Garmin Nuvi that I love; I drive 35K mi/year, and love the heads up display. I am sick of updating a 12 y/o piece of hardware at $50.00 a pop, though. It's going to fail.
Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?
If anyone has direct experience, I'd like to know. I found a nice silicon mount cheap on Amazon; it doesn't use suction cups, it sits on dash.
It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ty7RM)

236 FIRST!!!!!
Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:04 AM (aVNi6)


Prove it.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (bUjCl)

237 229 Thank you, OM. That was good to see. I do not remember that one.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:03 AM (bUjCl)


Heh. Turns out I posted that one nearly four years ago. Los of water under the bridge and lots of book threads gone by since then.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (JVrQi)

238 Keith's autobio is quite good. Opening scene of the Stones getting busted in the Deep South before their 1975 tour is hilarious.

Biggest reveal: Keith loved being a British boy scout

Posted by: Ignoramus at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (+HkAB)

239 235
Are there any techie morons/ettes around this a.m.? I an older Garmin
Nuvi that I love; I drive 35K mi/year, and love the heads up display. I
am sick of updating a 12 y/o piece of hardware at $50.00 a pop, though.
It's going to fail.

Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?

If anyone has direct experience, I'd like to know. I found a nice
silicon mount cheap on Amazon; it doesn't use suction cups, it sits on
dash.

It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ty7RM)

The new Garmins have free updates. Mine does.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (mpXpK)

240 I don't think Gutenburg books have DRM on them.
Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:01 AM (mpXpK)


They don't, but not all of them are formatted for comfortable reading. Depending on how they were uploaded, some of them aren't broken up into chapters, footnotes aren't linked in the text, and so on. They may just be the original text.

If you have one that's just a long text file, you can use Calibre to add chapter breaks and footnote links and inline images.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:07 AM (t+qrx)

241 "My plan is: read this book and Pop-Pop is going to give you a reward." retired Buckeye Cop

excellent, and a brief discussion with you to accent some highlights, add insights. Involved grandparents can really enrich a child's life, imo.

Posted by: illiniwek at August 18, 2019 11:07 AM (Cus5s)

242 Do you suppose Jeffrey Epstein had a library?

Posted by: creeper at August 18, 2019 11:07 AM (RuhkN)

243 We are off to visit my friend and her 96-year-old mother - see you all later!

Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aXucN)

244 Print is dead.

Posted by: Egon Spengler at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aVNi6)

245 Prove it.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (bUjCl)


I said it, didn't I?

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aVNi6)

246 In Houston I found a used copy of Dario Fernandez-Morera's The Myth of the Andalusian Paradise.

This is an ISI book, like Spencer's Did Muhammad Exist? and - more to the point - Reilly's The Closing of the Muslim Mind. It cites Emmet Scott's Mohammed and Charlemagne Revisited; which was NERP, not ISI, but both books are of the same stripe. They're all controversialist monographs, and not narrative histories. They are also all ranty and error-riddled.

Fernandez - I think that's how you're supposed to use last names in Spanish - does collect an impressive array of facts. So did Spencer and Scott, and maybe Reilly (I didn't check).

Before Fernandez, it was common for Islam apologists in the West to discuss Islamic Spain as an "ornament of the world" practicing cross-religious "convivencia". Fernandez points out that the Muslims destroyed Roman civilisation in Spain, which the Vandals and Visigoths had NOT done; Spanish art, literature, and architecture all went into a dark age. As for "convivencia", this worked like Jim Crow worked in the old American South. Everyone got along as long as everyone knew their place, which was about fourth place for Christian and Jewish dhimmis.

For all this book's faults, I do think its message got across to historians of Muslim-era Spain. It helps that Fernandez rubs the Islam apologists' nose in their own tu- er, words.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (ykYG2)

247 Ray Bradbury Something Wicked This Way Comes is a coming-of-age story, perhaps THE coming-of-age story. I got it on CD so I could listen to it on the drive.

The circus is coming to town, in late October, and it's really magic. There's a carousel which changes peoples' ages, which someone uses to relive his youth. Two local boys Jim Nightshade and Will Halloway witness this, and foil the plot, but the carnies find out and attempt revenge.

I get the impression Stephen King liked this story a lot and ripped off its main themes.

Posted by: boulder t'hobo at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (ykYG2)

248 Here is the new 5" Garmin with lifetime free updates.

https://tinyurl.com/y5meu4xe

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (mpXpK)

249 Posted by: grammie winger at August 18, 2019 10:42 AM

Hope not for long, don't read anything good about that country these days.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (BbGew)

250 Heh. Turns out I posted that one nearly four years ago. Los of water under the bridge and lots of book threads gone by since then.
Posted by: OregonMuse.


==

Right ? That Donald Trump character may yet have a chance at this Presidency thingy. Richard's quote is surprisingly ...profound !

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (bUjCl)

251 Nice pic! Little known fact hordlings: Pater Redux is an alumnus of the University of Bologna Medical School! Ended up as a surgeon (Major, US Army, retired, CO of an EVAC in Viet Nam) Became an OB/GYN (Had enough of seeing people die - wanted to bring life into the world!) and retired fully about 20 years ago.

He went back to teach a class to the foreign med students about 25 years ago and I went with him. It was a truly great experience and the University gave him a villa in the hills above Florence to use for a month.

The other interesting factoid - Pater Redux was born in Brooklyn and did not speak a word of Italian before going (!). The Redux's are Irish on one side and Italian on the other.

Anyhoo. always nice to see the dadster's alma mater.

So - Anyone seen Fenelon today? When does he take his hiatus. Fenelon - if you are still listening in - best of luck with everything and speak to you when you get.

Also - In Singapore most of this week - glad to be missing the Hong Kong craziness - but have o g back in a few days.

Pax Ex!

Posted by: Publius Redux at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (O7Q7l)

252 The first story in Ultimate Enemy called "The Smile" is certainly an interesting take on how to get revenge. Plus something of a who dunnit.

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (6zCBb)

253 Heh. Turns out I posted that one nearly four years ago. Los of water under the bridge and lots of book threads gone by since then.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 11:06 AM (JVrQi)


Love it. It must have been when I was on a voluntary hiatus.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (y7DUB)

254 Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?

Waze. It's a combination GPS and social media. Not like chat with each other social media, but sharing information.

Users report accidents, traffic, cops, etc. Waze will steer you around bad scenes based on current user reports. (Why is it telling me to get off at Exit 22? I know I'm going to 36. Yeah, well, a car is on fire down the road. We're getting off at 22 and taking some back roads).

And it has the turn right in 5.4 miles, it's 42 miles to your destination, you'll get there at 12:15, and it's free.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

255 All your print are belong we much!

Posted by: Baghdad Al at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (XuBZu)

256 We are off to visit my friend and her 96-year-old mother - see you all later!
Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 11:08 AM (aXucN)


My grandmother just turned 95. She takes no medicines, only a shot of Flonase in each nostril once a day.

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (aVNi6)

257
It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.

Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM


Waze is the app yo want

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe & Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (KCxzN)

258 then suddenly starts working again when you try to show someone what the problem is.

"Looks fine to me. Ship it!"

Posted by: Your Manager at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (NAs56)

259 Vowed not to get a book in e-book if I really want it for life.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (BbGew)

260 Q: Is there an ap that functions like the Garmin display, with mph, miles to next turn etc?
If anyone has direct experience, I'd like to know. I found a nice silicon mount cheap on Amazon; it doesn't use suction cups, it sits on dash.
It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM (ty7RM)


I use either Waze or Rever.

Garmin has a navigation app called Drive, 4/5 stars. Have you looked into that?

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (t+qrx)

261 I said it, didn't I?

==


No. You typed it. FAIL.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (bUjCl)

262 257


It would be perfect if I could just use my iPhone like the Nuvi.



Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 18, 2019 11:05 AM



Waze is the app yo want

Posted by: AltonJackson
Save the Date!!!
the MiMoMe Emporium is 21SEP19
in Chelsea, MI
at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (KCxzN)

My wife's Toyota came with a map program on it. But she still prefers her Garmin as it is much easier to use.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:11 AM (mpXpK)

263 167 finally got thru to the eye doc - he left vm that he'd see me at 1 today
hopefully it's another big nothing
thanks horde
Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 10:35 AM (+72t1)

Yay. You'll let us know.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 11:11 AM (2VrwR)

264 Never mind about Garmin Drive, I just downloaded it and it looks like it wants to connect to a Garmin device.

Like others have mentioned, Waze is very good about real-time traffic conditions and routes. It also has a speed function and an optional overspeed warning for the road you're on.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:13 AM (t+qrx)

265 The closest phrase in software is "Bug Closed: Can Not Reproduce"

Posted by: t-bird at August 18, 2019 11:14 AM (QrTqV)

266 The closest phrase in software is "Bug Closed: Can Not Reproduce"


I misspent a couple of years in SQA.

You could always tell the developers were pissed when they wrote FAD, functions as designed.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:16 AM (fuK7c)

267 Official Soothsayer Prediction:

I guarantee, that within the next 5 years, this whole turning the clocks back/forward will be deemed racist, if it hasn't already.
Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 01, 2015 10:56 AM (DgBcT)

Only a few months left. Want to walk that back or stick with it, Soothie?

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (vqIkG)

268 I thinknI have those pants

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (+72t1)

269 > Discover Conservative Fiction Authors

I started a very long fantasy series by Terry Goodkind. He seems to be conservative. In the first book, he has a peasant denouncing a socialist agriculture plan (shortly before he's executed) without saying the word socialist.

I've heard that he gets somewhat Randian around the 7th or 8th book then swings back.

The first book's title is "Wizard's First Rule". I'm about 2/3rds through and am enjoying it a lot.

Posted by: ArthurK at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (PE3lH)

270 No. You typed it. FAIL.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:10 AM (bUjCl)


How do you know I didn't say it while typing?

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (aVNi6)

271 Free books/download with amazon prime from Kindle store.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (bUjCl)

272 > 267 Official Soothsayer Prediction:

I guarantee, that within the next 5 years, this whole turning the clocks back/forward will be deemed racist, if it hasn't already.
Posted by: Soothsayer,

Only a few months left. Want to walk that back or stick with it, Soothie?
Posted by: Booky MacBookface

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36 states are looking into ending it.

https://www.nbcdfw.com/news/national-international/Permanent-Daylight-Saving-Time-550145631.html

Posted by: ArthurK at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (PE3lH)

273 How do you know I didn't say it while typing?


You probably mumbled it and we don't hear that well. Plus, your accent is stupid and your voice has no timbre. You really shouldn't bother talking, it just annoys people.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (fuK7c)

274 I need to learn to read. Still got over a year.

Posted by: Durnitt MacDurnittface at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (vqIkG)

275 Christianity and Islam in Spain: AS 756-1031. 1889
http://www.gutenberg.org/files/15262/15262-h/15262-h.htm

History of the Moors in Spain. 1840
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/22337/pg22337.html

Posted by: Anna Puma at August 18, 2019 11:20 AM (6zCBb)

276 You probably mumbled it and we don't hear that well. Plus, your accent is stupid and your voice has no timbre. You really shouldn't bother talking, it just annoys people.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:19 AM (fuK7c)


Who are you, my wife?

Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:20 AM (aVNi6)

277 How do you know I didn't say it while typing?
Posted by: Sponge at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (aVNi6)


"if a tree falls in a forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound ?"

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bUjCl)

278 Just finished First Man, an excellent authorized biography of Neil Armstrong by James Hanson. I continue my obsession with Apollo 11 and all things space travel!

Also just finished a very good short novel called A Funny Thing Happened On The Moon, by Joey Rogers. Well-conceived and well-written, fast-paced and sympathetic characters, the story was great and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 18, 2019 11:22 AM (bQngX)

279 Plus wasn't Townsend accused of child porn?

Yes, Townsend was accused of child porn and took a plea. He explains it in the book. Basically, he was doing a search for something an ran across it years ago, and was appalled; he suspects he was raped as a young boy. It bothered him, and he decided that since you have to put in a credit card that the banks were complicit in it-- which is correct-- and he wanted to catch them at it. So he put in his credit card and went no further. He was going to write an expose on it.

Well, he got grabbed in a bust, and advised to take a plea. Much later, it did come out that there was proof he never went past the payment page.


And yes, his explanation sounds incredible and stupid, but he has a bit of the White Knight syndrome, which he admits. Also, musicians are that stupid.

Finally, Mick Jagger is a jackass.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:23 AM (AkkRZ)

280 >>>Even if it's these pants

Why did I click that.

Posted by: m at August 18, 2019 11:24 AM (2VrwR)

281 CNN is pushing the movement to stop advertising on extremist web sites. Some examples? Breitbart and Gateway.

The lefts assault on free speech is just getting started.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 18, 2019 11:25 AM (htyuy)

282 267 I guarantee, that within the next 5 years, this
whole turning the clocks back/forward will be deemed racist, if it
hasn't already.

Posted by: Soothsayer, with arms akimbo at November 01, 2015 10:56 AM (DgBcT)



Only a few months left. Want to walk that back or stick with it, Soothie?

Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 11:17 AM (vqIkG)

A lot of States have already gotten rid of it. The only people that want it or the merchants who think they sell more by being open while there is light. Doesn't seem to effect 24/7 stores like Walmart. My State will probably never get rid of it.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:25 AM (mpXpK)

283 ( *Ponders* ) I wonder if I could petition the Pope to give special dispensations to morons who read the Sunday Morning Book Thread.
Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 10:39 AM


I don't think you have to go all the way to the Pope to get a dispensation for not wearing pants for the Sunday Morning Book Thread.

Posted by: Duncanthrax at August 18, 2019 11:28 AM (DMUuz)

284 I like 10pm sunsets in June and July. So Im all for dst.

Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 18, 2019 11:29 AM (htyuy)

285 There is a book called French Classics on Kindle. Yay ! Wait , 120 pages ?? That can't be right...and then you read reviews to find out what's in it.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:29 AM (bUjCl)

286 Posted by: bluebell at August 18, 2019 10:45 AM (aXucN)

I may just be in the wrong mental space, but I find those books (especially the interactions with-in the family) to be extremely sad.

Posted by: Polliwog the 'Ette at August 18, 2019 11:29 AM (uquGJ)

287 86- It would seem that that is why I have Samuel L. Clemon's copy of Gulliver's Travels.

Posted by: Charles the Simple at August 18, 2019 11:30 AM (w7U7L)

288 SC does have a bill to make daylight savings time year round instead of specific months but congress must pas a law to give States this option. They could have killed it with no action for congress but they sneaked this fake shit in so people will be fooled into saying the did something.

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 11:30 AM (mpXpK)

289 And yes, his explanation sounds incredible and stupid, but he has a bit of the White Knight syndrome, which he admits. Also, musicians are that stupid.

Finally, Mick Jagger is a jackass.
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:23 AM (AkkRZ)


Thank you for that explanation; I'll revise my opinion accordingly to less of a perv and more of a dumbass.

And absolutely the latter.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:32 AM (y7DUB)

290 One of the Antifa soy boys arrested in Portland Saturday had a T-shirt reading "BETA CUCK 4 LYFE". I am not making this up, and it was confirmed when he was unmasked by police. I'm sorry, but you can't "reclaim" that.

Posted by: Ian S. at August 18, 2019 11:32 AM (6XLoz)

291 I'm sorry, but you can't "reclaim" that.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 18, 2019 11:32 AM (6XLoz)


"This mulch contains 50% post-consumer reclaimed Antifa by weight"

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:34 AM (t+qrx)

292 i pointed out keith richards is a big reader to explain why his autobiography biography might be well written. which actually brings up an interesting question - how important is extensive reading to good writing? i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.

Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)

293 I just finished the Flavia book with the terrible ending and I agree, very sad.
Midway through the next one

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (+72t1)

294 i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)


I think it's similar to music or graphic art - appreciation and creation are two separate but complementary things.

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 11:40 AM (t+qrx)

295 I want to turn the clocks back to 1954.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:40 AM (+y/Ru)

296 i pointed out keith richards is a big reader to explain why his autobiography biography might be well written. which actually brings up an interesting question - how important is extensive reading to good writing? i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)

I agree with you on both. Reading improves one's writing. Or at least it should. Good writing is artistry, and is a gift.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:42 AM (bUjCl)

297 Writing is an art and a craft. You study the craft by reading other writers.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:43 AM (fuK7c)

298 i believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)


A good editor can make good writing great. Gordon Lish, not a particularly compelling writer, turned Raymond Carver's writing into something I couldn't put down by cutting large swaths out of it. Carver and his whore enabler complained about it and eventually just started releasing wordy substandard crap where you had to cut through the brush to find the underlying essence. The dimwit crits praised it anyway, which illustrated why Nabokov held them in such obvious contempt.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:45 AM (y7DUB)

299 Warning: Do NOT post on old threads. That's a autobanning offense.

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Drumhead court-martial followed by immediate execution.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:48 AM (+y/Ru)

300 290 One of the Antifa soy boys arrested in Portland Saturday had a T-shirt reading "BETA CUCK 4 LYFE". I

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Bullshit!! I don't believe it. No way the Portland police arrested anyone from Antifa!

Posted by: Lurking Lurker - Not In My Purview at August 18, 2019 11:48 AM (Yevmp)

301 "Over the M mountain,I'll be waiting at the K K K kitchen door."

I'm embarrassed to admit that's from memory.
Posted by: creeper"

Also known as "The Stuttering Song". Just over a 100 years old now, was a big hit way back then. It's got two strikes against it, even though it's in no way racist. I don't think it's ever coming back.

Posted by: freaked at August 18, 2019 11:49 AM (Tnijr)

302 I have just learned that Heidi Klum calls her boobs Hans and Franz.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (fuK7c)

303 Writing is an art and a craft. You study the craft by reading other writers.

Agreed. It would appear that I've somehow turned into a professional freelance writer, and I really don't read new American fiction, since it's mass market stuff. I read mostly older European fiction or really, really weird world fictition. I know this makes me sound like a pretentious snob, but I actually like wird stuff, so..it is what it is.


Want to take a great fiction trip? Read "The Wild Sheep Chase" by Murakami. Amazing, amazing book and plot.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)

304 ou est la Bibliotheque Marco?


Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (5IHGB)



Polo

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 11:53 AM (hjWzb)

305 .... which actually brings up an interesting question - how important is extensive reading to good writing? believe that writers are born, not made, and no amount of reading will make a bad writer a good writer. but reading should improve one's writing.
Posted by: musical jolly chimp at August 18, 2019 11:35 AM (Pg+x7)


If by "writer," you mean an author of fiction, then I would agree somewhat. However, a person with an extensive history of reading should do better writing non-fiction than a person who doesn't read extensively for entertainment. For example, most engineers are atrocious when it comes to technical writing and many don't read anything else but poorly written technical papers. On the other hand, the engineer in his mid-20s with whom I share an office is a good writer but he reads for fun and likes older books.

Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 18, 2019 11:53 AM (5Yee7)

306 Close to finishing "The Last Mission", about the last B-29 raid of the war.


A quick read and nothing wrong with it, but pretty thin - mostly the co-author's pretty well done summary of the struggle within the Japanese leadership over how to respond to the Potsdam Declaration, including the attempted coup against the Emperor's surrender decision and the effort to prevent broadcast of his recorded address, wrapped around a spare account of the mission from the radioman on one of the planes.


The final 24 hours leading up to the broadcast of the address at noon on Aug. 15 still contain big gaps in knowledge of what actually happened, and much of what is "known" relies on the accounts of 2 surviving military types, who themselves had limited information, and reasons to shade their post-war accounts.





Posted by: rhomboid at August 18, 2019 11:54 AM (QDnY+)

307 "K-K-K-Katy
Beautiful Katy
I'll be waiting at the
K-K-K-kitchen door"

Don't know how the rest goes.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 09:38 AM (JVrQi)


Has it been reclassified as a Klan song yet?

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 11:55 AM (hjWzb)

308 Storytelling is a talent. Writing is a craft.

Posted by: vmom happy to have read a good book! at August 18, 2019 11:55 AM (+72t1)

309 Right ? That Donald Trump character may yet have a chance at this Presidency thingy.
Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (bUjCl)


Heh. I would not change a word of that Trump == 'The Mule' bit that I wrote back then. Just like that Mule character in Asmov's 'Foundation' trilogy, Trump has thrown the Established Order of Things into absolute chaos. And the guardians and gatekeepers still have NO idea how to deal with him.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 11:55 AM (JVrQi)

310 Writing is an art and a craft. You study the craft by reading other writers.


==

oh, that's good !

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 11:57 AM (bUjCl)

311 Want to take a great fiction trip? Read "The Wild Sheep Chase" by Murakami. Amazing, amazing book and plot.
Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)


Thanks for the heads up. I put it in my Goodreads "want to read" folder and found out my older daughter has done likewise.

Posted by: Captain Hate at August 18, 2019 11:57 AM (y7DUB)

312

All of the MFM stories I've seen about Portland have described it as far-right extremist group and anti-fascist counter protestors. You see comrades, the gallant wonders of Pantifa are just fighting fascists

Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 18, 2019 11:57 AM (hjWzb)

313
Want to take a great fiction trip? Read "The Wild Sheep Chase" by Murakami. Amazing, amazing book and plot.

Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)



Yeah, great book. It really put Murakami on the map.


I still think it's my favorite novel of his.


Everything great about Murakami in an easy to swallow pill.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (mIQCW)

314 Sean Spicier: I`d be more offended at being called a Cuomo than a Fredo.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

315 I finished The Beauty and the Sorrow by Peter Englund. I highly recommend it. The author is a historian and a war correspondent. He wanted to write a book about what World War I was like. He follows 20 people, different nationalities and campaigns. Some are civilian. Each chapter starts with a synopsis of the war for that year. The material is drawn from primary sources and is fascinating.

People tend to think history is carved in stone but books like this show how fluid it was.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (Lqy/e)

316 Saw on Fox news 13 ( only, please) Antifa ( Ready Pro Fascists). were arrested. Even after tearing out a bus window and spraying inside with a spray chemical that had passengers.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:01 PM (BbGew)

317 Rep. Haaland (D): Antifa Are 'Peaceful Protesters' Trying To 'Safeguard Their City'

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So there, haters!

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)

318 I finished The Beauty and the Sorrow by Peter Englund. I highly recommend it. The author is a historian and a war correspondent. He wanted to write a book about what World War I was like. He follows 20 people, different nationalities and campaigns. Some are civilian. Each chapter starts with a synopsis of the war for that year. The material is drawn from primary sources and is fascinating. 

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I liked it, too.

Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 12:05 PM (+y/Ru)

319 The UK has a new rule against gender cliches in advertising and has just banned an ad from Volkswagen and one from Philadelphia cream cheese for being sexist.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:06 PM (fuK7c)

320 The German word vorfuhreffekt

My crew chief in the USAF would right on the repair report
Can Not Duplicate
when a pilot would report a problem that we couldn't find and tests were all satisfactory.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:06 PM (BbGew)

321 317 Rep. Haaland (D): Antifa Are 'Peaceful Protesters' Trying To 'Safeguard Their City'

-
So there, haters!
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 12:04 PM (+y/Ru)

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Funny, but the civic leaders in Munich said the same thing about the Brownshirts.

It didn't end well.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:07 PM (amw5z)

322 The little girl on the cover of the Golden Book prayer book is a sweetie, who will probably grow into a beautiful young lady. Her brother has the look of a brother ready to kick ass and take names if somebody screws with his sister. Deus Vult.

Posted by: bill in arkansas at August 18, 2019 12:07 PM (C1Lsn)

323 ...and I really don't read new American fiction, since it's mass market stuff. I read mostly older European fiction or really, really weird world fictition. I know this makes me sound like a pretentious snob, but I actually like wird stuff, so..it is what it is....


Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ



Yes, I tend to read those types of books myself.

You may enjoy my novel "Wearing the Cat". It a black comedy, picaresque novel that's meant to be different from the usual American novel.

It's on Amazon in two parts on paper and the Kindle.

Amazon gives a very generous sample so you can test drive it to see if it's for you.

Best regards.

Posted by: naturalfake at August 18, 2019 12:08 PM (mIQCW)

324 322 The little girl on the cover of the Golden Book prayer book is a sweetie, who will probably grow into a beautiful young lady.

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By strange coincidence, that girl is our own Fen.

Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 18, 2019 12:08 PM (amw5z)

325 I have just learned that Heidi Klum calls her boobs Hans and Franz.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fi

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So, "the girls'" pronouns are "he/him?"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:09 PM (5aX2M)

326 The UK and Europe can't go soon enough to the Caliphate, at least they will then get the sex differences straightened out.

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:09 PM (BbGew)

327 Philly cheese should appeal the decision.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 12:12 PM (bUjCl)

328 Posted by: shibumi, future Ohio dental floss tycoon at August 18, 2019 11:52 AM (AkkRZ)

Try Mark Helprin, and if you are a baseball fan, start with his short story called, "Perfection, A Story."

Posted by: CharlieBrown'sDildo at August 18, 2019 12:14 PM (wYseH)

329
Waze is the app yo want


I use Waze but I sometimes suspect that it's sending me off on a backroads detour not for my benefit but to collect data or out of spite for ignoring its previous instructions. Also, it seems to really not get that an unprotected left hand turn across a major downtown street at rush hour might not be such a good idea.

Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 18, 2019 12:15 PM (qc+VF)

330 Be sure and read Roger Daltrey's autobiography. It's better than Townsend's and almost as good as Richards. I just read a biography of Cass Elliott that was good, if you need another one. Seems she died from drugs. The autopsy claimed no drugs or alcohol but she had been to a couple of parties that night and was seen drinking.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2019 12:16 PM (Lqy/e)

331 Philly cheese should appeal the decision.

The Volkswagen ad cut back and forth between a male amputee athlete with one of those blade legs doing the long jump and a woman sitting on a bench with a baby carriage.

That showed men as active and women as passive. Banned.

The Philadelphia ad shows two men out with their babies at one of those restaurants with the conveyor belt, like sushi except with bagels and toast and stuff that has cream cheese on it. One of the fathers likes the cream cheese so much that he forgets that he left the baby on the conveyor belt and he sees the kid snaking around to the other side of the store.

That disparages the competence of men as fathers. Banned.

Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 12:17 PM (fuK7c)

332 CUCK NOOD

Posted by: Skip at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (BbGew)

333 Not much serious reading for the week, so romance roundup.

Wallflower Wager by Tessa Dare; this author is an auto-buy for me. This one was good as usual, but animal-lover tropes are just not my thing. I thought the revelation of secrets was disjointed from the rest of the plot.

Married by Morning by Lisa Kleypas; good but not one of my favorites by Kleypas.

Weighing in on Kindle Unlimited, I do find it to be worth the price. Often, the In the Mail links from Instapundit are available on KU. I read the first two Vindolanda books on KU and then bought the third because I like them so much.

Posted by: MMcK at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (xHxJf)

334 nood

Posted by: Vic at August 18, 2019 12:19 PM (mpXpK)

335 I'm going to be reading The Shepherd's Life by James Reback. It seems to be a defense of traditional life. The preview was very good.

Posted by: Notsothoreau at August 18, 2019 12:20 PM (Lqy/e)

336 Any books or thoughts hordians?

Cheriebebe


Any book or video by Dr. Scott Hahn. He is great at explaining Christ's meaning and reality.

Also, Death on a Friday Afternoon by the late Father Richard John Neuhaus. It is very philosophical, but also excellent at describing and explaining the How and Why of Christ's redemptive mission.

Posted by: Sharkman at August 18, 2019 12:21 PM (bQngX)

337 Sean Spicier: I`d be more offended at being called a Cuomo than a Fredo.
Posted by: Anonosaurus Wrecks, Tyrannosaur Wrangler at August 18, 2019 11:59 AM (+y/Ru)

Sean, you can't have an opinion on this because you've never known the grim reality of brutal oppression faced every day in this country by People of Pasta such as myself.

Posted by: Fredo "Chris" Cuomo at August 18, 2019 12:22 PM (tVQUs)

338 That disparages the competence of men as fathers. Banned.


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OK. That is beyond comical, and my cynical side is telling me that someone somewhere forgot to grease a few palms. But that's just me.

Posted by: runner at August 18, 2019 12:22 PM (bUjCl)

339 I use Waze but I sometimes suspect that it's sending me off on a backroads detour not for my benefit but to collect data or out of spite for ignoring its previous instructions. Also, it seems to really not get that an unprotected left hand turn across a major downtown street at rush hour might not be such a good idea.
Posted by: Bob the Bilderberg at August 18, 2019 12:15 PM (qc+VF)


Check your navigation settings in Waze; you can tell it to avoid "difficult intersections".

Posted by: hogmartin at August 18, 2019 12:24 PM (t+qrx)

340 If I were Kraft, I'd run the following ad on BBC properties...

Black text scrolling on white screen:

"Our recent ad for Philadelphia cream cheese was proscribed by the Advertising Standards Authority for portraying humans in a manner that suggested that some could be construed as having what were once considered "male" or "female" characteristics.

We did not have the budget to reshoot the ad using androgynous androids.

We considered scrapping it for a new script, but realized that nothing could reliably satisfy ASA and Ofcom, with their arbitrary, capricious and draconian enforcement of ever-shifting left-wing cultural norms.

So: we beseech you to purchase Philadelphia cream cheese. It's good. Not better than anyone else's mind you - we don't want to cheese shame anyone. Their lived experience informs their truth with regard to cheese quality.

So enjoy our cream cheese, and your stifling culture, Great Britain!"

Posted by: Yudhishthira's Dice at August 18, 2019 12:26 PM (5aX2M)

341 I borrowed "Saintly Advice - A prayer for every problem" from our Adoration Chapel this week. Basically it is a list of Saints and their assigned patronage. I've seen dozens of these type of books throughout the years but this one jumped out at me as very well done.

The physical construction of the book is first rate - first class paper was used and the binding is wonderful. Many of the popular Saints are listed of course but, since this volume has almost 200 pages, there also are listed many of the minor patronages; Burns - St. John the Apostle, Child Abuse - Ss. Alodia and Nunilo, Vanity - St. Rose of Lima, Rape Victims - St. Joan of Arc, and on and on.

A great choice for quiet reflection before bed. I'll buy my own copy and get this back to where it belongs. Else, I'll need to pray for the intercession of St. Leonard of Noblac - patron Saint of Burglary.

Posted by: Tonypete at August 18, 2019 12:29 PM (Y4EXg)

342 Yes Keef has a fine library...he reads slowly though..

ONE TOQUE OVER THE LINE................

Posted by: saf at August 18, 2019 12:37 PM (5IHGB)

343 Or as the storm waters of Camille destroys the house around them; a woman and her disabled sister join in praying to God as the maid reads aloud from the Bible while holding a hammer in one hand.
Posted by: Anna Puma

What was she gonna do with the hammer ?

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 12:45 PM (arJlL)

344 OM

I do appreciate your appeal to celebrate my belief in Christ openly and publicly.

I will do a better job of not looking both ways before I pray the Rosary on the bus, lest I offend someone. I will openly pray with my kids before meals at a restaurant.

Thank you.

Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 18, 2019 12:47 PM (PkVlr)

345 Oh no, grammie - I was doing a little more searching, and on his
agency's website it says "The Golden Tresses" is the 10th and final book
in the series. Waaaaah!


Her maid bonked her with a hammer.

Posted by: JT at August 18, 2019 12:53 PM (arJlL)

346 "So enjoy our cream cheese, and your stifling culture, Great Britain!"

The people who are responsible for that ad have been sacked.

Posted by: The Moose at August 18, 2019 12:56 PM (Tnijr)

347 I read an excellent bio of Joseph Lister, which focused on the transformation of surgery from a grisly Victorian horror show to something rather modern-looking, in the space of only 20 years or so.

I also read Tony La Russa's "One Last Strike," about the 2011 season. It has strong autobiographical elements too..

Posted by: mnw at August 18, 2019 12:58 PM (Cssks)

348
I've long been a fan of histories about domestic and foreign
communism, so I was surprised to come across Harry Stein's "The
Red Decade, Redux" in the summer issue of City Journal. In
discussing Eugene Lyons' "The Red Decade," which was published in
1941, Stein compared today's political climate to that of the
Popular Front era in 1930s America. Lyons, it turns out, was a
commie fellow traveler in the 1920s until years as a
reporter in the Soviet Union showed him that Stalin was a monster.
Despite my past reading, I had never heard of "The Red Decade"; I
looked for a copy at AbeBooks and Amazon, but even reprints are
pretty pricey. I finally got a copy from Hillsdale College through
the Michigan inter-library loan system.



Lyons presents a ton of hard facts about the Red Menace,
starting with its post-World War I roots. Always a pawn of Moscow,
the American party (ahem) religiously followed the line pushed by
the Communist International. The Popular Front was only one in a
series of Comintern plots to undermine non-communist nations. To
promote the Popular Front in the U.S., the party used such slogans
as "Communism is 20th Century Americanism" and "a communist is a
liberal in a hurry" to put a happy, non-threatening face on its
dark ambitions. Although the party never had that many
card-carrying members, it could rely on millions of fellow
travelers, stooges and just-plain naive citizens to entrench
itself into virtually every element of American life: popular
culture, education, mass media, politics, the government itself.
As Lyons notes, it appealed to everyone "from the sharecropper to
the shareholder."




And Lyons names names. Plenty of names. Some he identifies as
party members, others as commie symps. Still others are called
fellow travelers but proved to be Reds (sometimes even spies)
after World War II. Forget Joe McCarthy. Lyons points out that the
U.S. Labor Department was riddled with communists and
sympathizers, as were other agencies. A smart-mouth elevator
operator would announce "First Soviet," "Second Soviet" and so on
while traversing the floors of the State Department Building. The
way things worked, Lyons explains, is that the department director
or his top assistants would be hard-core fellow travelers who
would, in turn, appoint sympathetic managers below them. The real
communists would be in the ranks of low-levels workers. The Reds
had every base covered.



"The Red Decade" is a book not to be missed if you can
find a copy.

Posted by: outside Adjitator at August 18, 2019 01:25 PM (NvFiZ)

349 @232 --

I had heard (once on the Book Thread, even) that the latter five books weren't worth the time.

I have the first five in a two-volume hardback set that I bought used in the mid-'80s. It shows the copyright for the fifth novel, "The Courts of Chaos," was 1978 -- when I was still in high school. Maybe Zelazny hadn't resumed the series then.

Anyway, I think I'll stop with the fifth book. I have so many others to read. I hope to live long enough to read everything I own.

All I have to do is stay out of bookstores.

...

Shit.

Posted by: Weak Geek at August 18, 2019 01:30 PM (p2Yw7)

350 Just finished Nowhither, which is the sequel to Somewhither and highly recommend if you like action adventure fantasy mystery religious alternative history multidimensional philosophy. John C. Wright is the author.

Posted by: Simplemind at August 18, 2019 01:54 PM (ZuGkg)

351 There is "demonstration effect" but that doesn't really mean anything, it's not a phrase I've heard so it doesn't get that "oh I know exactly what you're talking about".
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 09:18 AM (fuK7c)

Well, call it "The Law of Paradoxical Observation". Wherein, if a thing, known to work/not work, is demonstrated to an observer, it perversely not works/works, as the case may be. That pretty much covers it.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:08 PM (a72/q)

352 Does reading the latest Popular Science and Popular Mechanics count? I simply cannot get interested in reading books lately.. I think it must have something to do with too much time on the internet.
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 18, 2019 09:24 AM (438dO)

You a masochist? Love submerging yourself in Gerbil Worming and SJW propaganda? Those magazines have completely jumped the shark.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:11 PM (a72/q)

353 I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.
Posted by: Booky MacBookface again at August 18, 2019 10:09 AM (vqIkG)

Likewise for me. Even if you own a digital book outright, what happens when the device it is stored upon goes tits up?

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:23 PM (a72/q)

354 And it has the turn right in 5.4 miles, it's 42 miles to your destination, you'll get there at 12:15, and it's free.
Posted by: Bandersnatch, fish brag pics welcome at e-mail in nic at August 18, 2019 11:09 AM (fuK7c)

And Goolag knows exactly where you are, and probably has a good idea of what you a re doing there.

The beauty of a real GPS is that it is a passive device, and does not (and cannot) transmit data back to its satellites.

Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 18, 2019 02:42 PM (a72/q)

355 I want to second the comment about lots of reading being helpful to writers of nonfiction. I have mostly been a voracious reader all my life, but couldn't write fiction if I had to. But I'm a very, very good writer (and editor) of nonfiction and technical writing.

Posted by: Art Rondelet of Malmsey at August 18, 2019 03:24 PM (S+f+m)

356 I read several King novels, and saw a number of movies based om his work. Did not like his work and still don't. The characters are shallow, cut-outs and predictable.

Posted by: psychochicken at August 18, 2019 04:02 PM (uTquT)

357 ok, 2 things: 1) 'The Hidden Truth' series by Hans G. Schantz. it's YA, but it's smart as hell; it's *wildly* original & inventive; and it's so conservative it's a thermonuclear Red Pill. (y'all know any other books that make mention of the Payseur family??) 2) in re 11.22.63 ... meh. NObody loves time-travel stuff more than I do, and king actually does do a decent job of describing the paradise that was late 50's/early 60's America (when he's not furiously virtue-signaling and/or tossing out 7-page denunciations of racism an' shit, to let his fellow liberals know he's still one of Them) .... but the freakin' book is 72,000 pages long. any halfway decent editor would have knocked off 50,000 pages and it might have been really something special. as is, just OK 3) stevie king thinks he knows how to write Texans. he does not.

Posted by: yonder bob at August 18, 2019 04:15 PM (BL4/P)

358 I will do a better job of not looking both ways before I pray the Rosary on the bus, lest I offend someone. I will openly pray with my kids before meals at a restaurant.

Thank you.
Posted by: Nurse ratched at August 18, 2019 12:47 PM (PkVlr)


You also need to avoid the other extreme of putting on a big spectacle, to impress others. It's sometimes hard to find the right balance between not doing it at all and being outlandish about it. Mrs. Muse and I pray in restaurants every time we go so we try to do it quietly.

Oh, and even more importantly when you're in restarants, tip generously. I'm talking 25% minimum. Unfortunately, we Christians have picked up a reputation of being lousy tippers, much to our shame. It should be the opposite. So I try to be generous, which for me does not come naturally.

Posted by: OregonMuse. AoSHQ Thought Leader & Pants Monitor at August 18, 2019 04:41 PM (JVrQi)

359 348 >>>"The Red Decade" is a book not to be missed if you can

find a copy.
Borrow the digital version for free at archive.org.https://archive.org/details/reddecadestalini0000lyon

Posted by: 13times at August 18, 2019 05:12 PM (K3B2k)

360

I'll pass on kindle or any other e reader if what you pay for can be yanked away without notice.
Posted by: Booky MacBookface


Likewise for me. Even if you own a digital book outright, what happens when the device it is stored upon goes tits up?Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon

I put all my epub titles on thumb drives and servers like dropbox, mediafire and archive. Archive.org is free to use and will be accessible as long as there's a internet and a western world. You can limit access to whatever you've uploaded by selecting 'true' for blocking search engine crawls. Use free and open source Sigil or Calibre to hack unwanted ebook code.
Convert title files using Calibre for use in Kindles and other proprietary devices.

Posted by: 13times at August 18, 2019 05:27 PM (K3B2k)

361 'The Hidden Truth' series by Hans G. Schantz. it's YA, but it's smart as hell; it's *wildly* original & inventive; and it's so conservative it's a thermonuclear Red Pill. (y'all know any other books that make mention of the Payseur family??)

Thanks for the kind words, yonder bob.

Posted by: Hans G. Schantz at August 18, 2019 05:54 PM (FXjhj)

362 Hope all is well in Erisland.

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