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Jeffrey Epstein Found Dead; Had Been on Suicide Watch, Claimed to Have Committed Suicide
Apparently the New York prison version of "suicide watch" is just watching you while you commit suicide, so they can critique your form and make suggestions.
POST EXCLUSIVE: Photos show Jeffrey Epstein as he’s wheeled into Downtown Hospitalhttps://t.co/uAAoHJTSKf pic.twitter.com/vJqz7p25VR
— Jon Levine (@LevineJonathan) August 10, 2019
Jesus this Epstein suicide is going to launch a zillion conspiracy theories on every side.
— Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) August 10, 2019
I think we're past a point where we shld be referring to them as "conspiracy" theories. Putin often disposes of inconvenient people. The only stretch is to believe that once in federal prison, Epstein was un-monitored & had time to hang himself where it takes many minutes to die
— Cheri Jacobus (@CheriJacobus) August 10, 2019
A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful men’s lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably...Russian.
— Joe Scarborough (@JoeNBC) August 10, 2019
Comments
(Jump to bottom of comments)Posted by: Tonypete at August 10, 2019 10:10 AM (Y4EXg)
Posted by: Madhatter at August 10, 2019 10:11 AM (ALS5/)
Posted by: Just wondering at August 10, 2019 10:11 AM (oad3/)
Posted by: Madhatter at August 10, 2019 10:11 AM (ALS5/)
Posted by: The Clinton mob at August 10, 2019 10:12 AM (Vzme2)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:12 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Walsingham at August 10, 2019 10:13 AM (D/1P4)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:14 AM (lwiT4)
1) Even if Epstein were alive and brought to court, do you think he'd ever talk or admit to anything? I seriously doubt it. So his being dead doesn't change that.
2) Apparently, his death allows for faster warrant obtainment, etc.
cf. https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1160188170698469376
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 10, 2019 10:14 AM (q6jjE)
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 10:14 AM (uEbPt)
425
I just hope that evil pervert was clever enough to have some sort of dead-man's switch implemented. But I doubt it.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo
I actually wouldn't be at all
surprised if he did do that. AFAIK, he had no family to protect, so a
Freddie Pentangeli scenario wasn't in the cards.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:14 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Hadrian the Seventh at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (Wx/+I)
Posted by: Billy Jeff at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (1QvcO)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (y7DUB)
We'll give it 8 out of 10.
He missed the backflip, but he nailed the triple axel.
Posted by: The Bureau of Prisons! at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Headless Body of Agnew at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (e1mEI)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:14 AM (lwiT4)
Usually that sort of thing means the dirty exposing info will be sent to trustworthy journalists and straight shooting law enforcement.
Oh.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 10:16 AM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Seth Rich at August 10, 2019 10:16 AM (ywNoU)
If you could get to believing this new one right away, we'd really appreciate it. Thanks.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 10, 2019 10:16 AM (t+qrx)
Posted by: Quilter's Irish Death at August 10, 2019 10:16 AM (DjiZK)
Posted by: Prince Andrew at August 10, 2019 10:17 AM (cfV8p)
Posted by: Gerard vanderleun at August 10, 2019 10:17 AM (n9plY)
Geslane Maxwell is still alive, and she's up to her eyeballs in this sh#t. She was his Madame.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:17 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: The Bulwark! at August 10, 2019 10:17 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:17 AM (T6t7i)
Maybe this is the point where the Deep State jumped the shark. Maybe.
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 10:07 AM (sdi6R)
That could well happen...
if we still had investigative journalism and an honest law enforcement system.
Tomorrow's headlines: MAGA hat wearing White Supremacists Pounce on assorted POC.
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:18 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 10, 2019 10:18 AM (ywNoU)
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:18 AM (vmRc0)
Or did he kill himself so he himself wouldn't have to face the music?
If it's the latter, why would he care what happened to his powerful friends?
The pedophile information is somewhere. Someone has it.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (NFEMn)
Hat tip to the old British comedy "The Young Ones"...
Posted by: Additional Blond Agent, STEM guy at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (7s3Gx)
On a serious note, Putin has way more class and intelligence when announcing the obvious murders of his political enemies. The only difference between this "suicide" and frequent deaths in Russian prisons? The Russians evidently care more about public opinion.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (5CbY5)
Posted by: Insomniac at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (ywNoU)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (y7DUB)
I'm way too old. I remember when that buttmunch was a friend of the blog.
Posted by: Imitation Commentater at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (vqIkG)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (DY3v8)
AND just as deadly.
Posted by: Voter theater. at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (YJn4J)
pushed the outlandish conspiracy theory that Donald Trump was a deep
cover communist agent, is now hysterically warning against conspiracy
theories.
Come on Man !!! I called it by Monday - I didn't call it by the next friggin' thirty minutes.
I give up. I can't parody this shit anymore. It's went too farcical even for me.
I'm gonna' cut some grass, sweat, and probably concern my neighbors by day-drinking.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (dN3Mf)
Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (ykq7q)
Lets say you had worked hard for ten years and gotten on the better shift so you no longer had to work weekends.
Now you wake up to this news on your first Saturday off.
Posted by: Big V at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (xV6Pj)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (y7DUB)
You wonder how people like him are rich and many of us are not.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Vito Corelone at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (DY3v8)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:19 AM (NFEMn)
And they're destroying it as we speak.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (vmRc0)
You mean there are some dumb enough to get caught or go in willingly?
Posted by: Imitation Commentater at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (vqIkG)
Hell, there are other VIPs at risk, such as Prince Andrew.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (5CbY5)
I think I'll go for a run.
This week has really taken a toll on my normally sunny optimism.
It's like living through a really craptostic version of "The Empire Strikes Back" with Darth Democrat on the ascendency.
I'd like to believe this is panic by the Dims and that Barr is going to go hard and heavy on them, and-
this is the Democrats throwing everything against the wall before catastrophe strikes, but-
right now, I think things are just getting started.
Double ugh.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (mIQCW)
Posted by: antisocialist at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (mLNys)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (NFEMn)
He knew the right people. Simple as that.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (vmRc0)
Posted by: Vince Foster at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (dCRRg)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v8)
This is good because I'm on my last cup right now.
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (sdi6R)
Posted by: PleaseDontKilleMeHillary at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (EIsub)
1) Either Epstein was going to talk or he wasn't.
2) Suppose he wasn't going to talk. Then, this changes nothing. Maybe it even *helps*.
3) Suppose he was going to talk. Why? Why would that be a viable option for a guy like this? If he really was guilty of all that he seems to be, I don't think you could imagine ever getting out of this. His life was essentially over. For a nasty hedonist/powermonger like this, that's potentially worse than being dead.
4) Even if he wanted to live, he'd have to know the long knives would be out. In other words, if he talked, his probably wouldn't just be killed, but tortured and mutilated.
Baseline for me is that I don't see a massive legal downside to his death (esp. if there's lots of material evidence) because the most we would've gotten out of him is blank-faced denials and 5th amendment silence. The suicide makes sense as the desperate last move of a power hungry guy who knows he's caught and finds life in a subordinate position vile and hateful to the point of death.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (q6jjE)
Posted by: Prison Guard With New Boat at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (qul7b)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (NFEMn)
He knew the right people. Simple as that.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (vmRc0)
And was willing to throw all moral constraints and notions of human decency right out the window.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (ywNoU)
Posted by: ALH at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (GaOgf)
And how many times are the MSM going to run that clip of Trump and Epstein from the '90's to cement the connection between them in the minds of the public?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (NFEMn)
Double ugh.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (mIQCW)
It's waking people up, that's for goddamn sure. Not as many as I would like, and mostly from "solid Republican" to "my government is trying to genocide us," but it's a start.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (5CbY5)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:12 AM (bDqIh)
"Conspiracy theory" is now a phrase trotted out as a means of silencing the questions and the questioners.
If you don't want people calling you Alex Jones Jr., then shut up about how the history of mankind is littered by the gazillions, almost from day one, of people being killed and made to look like conveniently timed suicides.
We act like this is a "conspiracy theory" to speculate on it, but the real conspiracy is the dozens of willing media types who will overuse the phrase "conspiracy theory."
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Hikaru
So your saying that there might be pictures of Don Lemon with underaged boys on Pedo Island? Might I say. No evidence at all the Don Lemon is a depraved scumbag. None at all of his unnatural carnal desires. Just asking questions.
Just. Asking. Questions. {X-Files theme}
Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (3kJK+)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (bDqIh)
AND almost all of them are involved with, or in debt to, the Clinton Mega Corporation!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Bubba at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (qul7b)
He knew the right people. Simple as that.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (vmRc0)
Apparently, he knew a lot of the wrong people too.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Hillary at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 10:15 AM (y7DUB)
You wonder how people like him are rich and many of us are not.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (NFEMn)
Not really. There are lots of ways to live your life filthy rich and being smart isn't as important as being driven.
Posted by: Captain Hate at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (y7DUB)
Posted by: Fluoride Joey Scar at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (dYe5S)
Posted by: Joe Mama at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (ZtPNJ)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (oVJmc)
..
You know which party controls NY state with an iron fist, right?
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (MAstk)
People in Russia opposed to Putin occasionally die, but they die on the street in planned hits - they don't die in jail.
Nobody in Russia would believe for a second a story about a political dissident "committing suicide" in jail, so the authorities don't try that.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (bDqIh)
Amazing what a determined man can do...
Barely an inconvenience!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Russian Judge at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (8ts9m)
Posted by: WEBB HUBBELL at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (lMn1U)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v
Que?
Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (ykq7q)
Posted by: SamIam at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (oasF3)
1) Either Epstein was going to talk or he wasn't.
2) Suppose he wasn't going to talk. Then, this changes nothing. Maybe it even *helps*.
3) Suppose he was going to talk. Why? Why would that be a viable option for a guy like this? If he really was guilty of all that he seems to be, I don't think you could imagine ever getting out of this. His life was essentially over. For a nasty hedonist/powermonger like this, that's potentially worse than being dead.
4) Even if he wanted to live, he'd have to know the long knives would be out. In other words, if he talked, his probably wouldn't just be killed, but tortured and mutilated.
Baseline for me is that I don't see a massive legal downside to his death (esp. if there's lots of material evidence) because the most we would've gotten out of him is blank-faced denials and 5th amendment silence. The suicide makes sense as the desperate last move of a power hungry guy who knows he's caught and finds life in a subordinate position vile and hateful to the point of death.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (q6jjE)
True, but all this would be moot if he wasn't actually allowed to off himself while under "suicide watch."
The "conspiracy" is not Epstein's suicide, it's that it was ALLOWED to happen.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (NFEMn)
Posted by: Blanco at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (HltPS)
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (ABjxW)
Rick Wilson?
Because that's who the person I responded to was talking about.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (vmRc0)
Posted by: SamIam at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (oasF3)
The video file is on the same hard drive as Hillary's emails though.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (ABjxW)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v
oh for the love of pete
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (+72t1)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:20 AM (NFEMn)
He knew the right people. Simple as that.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (vmRc0)
I am convinced that Epstein was running a "honey-pot". The question remains - for who ?
One thing we know for sure - Epstein ain't talkin'.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (dN3Mf)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (I2/tG)
Well I don't know about all that. Joe Scarborough is a renowned expert on killing. It's worth hearing him out.
Posted by: hogmartin at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (t+qrx)
Posted by: The Gipper Lives at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (vmRc0)
missed that. gotcha.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (ABjxW)
The Nazis had a lot of that going on.....they would put on the official reports that the prisoner died of a heart attack or shot while attempting to escape.
So this makes the Clintons......wait for it.....
Nazis!
Works for me.
Posted by: Hairyback Guy at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (Z+IKu)
Posted by: Watch Commander with a New Bugotti at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (PbpT7)
But explain how come Hillary is holding the winning ticket in the deadpool; "8/10/19 with a rope"?
Posted by: John the River at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (/3goP)
he was made a full partner in the risk hedge management firm of Foster, Rich, & Epstein
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Hillary Clinton at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (oasF3)
It goes in the same file as the Khalidi tapes.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (87EdW)
I give it four hours.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (8ts9m)
best line from the last thread (sorry for lack of attribution, I forgot)
He wasn't on "Suicide Watch", he was on "Suicide, Watch!!!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (V2Yro)
Double ugh.
Posted by: naturalfake at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (mIQCW)
It's waking people up, that's for goddamn sure. Not as many as I would like, and mostly from "solid Republican" to "my government is trying to genocide us," but it's a start.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (5CbY5)
I don't think we can get much further in the language being used by those who are going after Trump. There are people who are more than hinting on killing him now.
How much longer can that go on, how much further can it go, before some people finally wake up and so "hold on now, you can't go threatening to kill a President, no matter how much you don't like him."
Honestly, does anyone here remember ANYONE making any type of threat against Obama, for 8 freakin' years?
I didn't hear one. From anywhere. And now here we are, and it's ratcheting up with speed, just in the last few weeks.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (cY3LT)
shart*
Posted by: Guess Who at August 10, 2019 10:28 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:28 AM (3R9oS)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (8ts9m)
I think that's called "Try it again, you numbskulls!"
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2019 10:28 AM (V2Yro)
I give it four hours.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (I2/tG)
They won't if the conspiracy theories imply Trump's involvement.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:28 AM (NFEMn)
Epstein from the '90's to cement the connection between them in the
minds of the public?
And cover all the times BJ Cliton visited Pedo Island. With a pillow until they don't move. That's something we'll never, ever hear or read about, especially if he did that while presidentin'.
#WASTF
Posted by: BackwardsBoy - #PurgeProgressivism at August 10, 2019 10:28 AM (HaL55)
Posted by: Your First Clue at August 10, 2019 10:28 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: smitty at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (p/Jmm)
Posted by: VLAD at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (+8+gB)
Cheri Jacobus
Except he wasn't in federal prison.
Delete your tweet.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (I2/tG)
Whaaaaaat? So if anything I was too hard on the Russians? How can this be?!
Seriously, on House of Cards a Saint Gay dissident in Moscow actually hanged himself in his cell exactly to provoke a similar reaction against the Russian government.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (5CbY5)
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (jY1B4)
Sure. Like Hermann Goering.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: Tentotwo at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (yhf6w)
As the punchline to the story goes, "I can read Pravda."
Posted by: Monty James at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (Zqz9o)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (sulRy)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (NFEMn)
Sad that the closed circuit cell camera hard drives were being backed up just when the power failure occurred and all that data was lost...
except for the yoga lessons and wedding plans!
Posted by: Commissar Cloudstrike Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (Jh1to)
I hope Virginia Giuffre is watching her back.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (13CQC)
But I'm thinking these freaks adhere to another religion, judging from everything that pizzagate uncovered. How strange that 2 days ago when my internet was down all day I was going through all of those sickening files.
Rule #1 of Satan club, you get caught, you die to protect the rest.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (q1al1)
I didn't hear one. From anywhere. And now here we are, and it's ratcheting up with speed, just in the last few weeks.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (cY3LT)
--------------
Never heard anyone hope that the economy tanks either. Not even from a drunk at the bar babbling about stuff.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (ABjxW)
I've got this Arkanicide story nailed for you.Spoiler alert: the French re-conquer England.
Where my URL at? https://theothermccain.com/2019/08/10/apparent-epstein-arkanicide/
Posted by: smitty at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (p/Jmm)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (I2/tG)
"Suicide Watch = Watching to see that he commits suicide and being there for the assist.
- - Frankie "5 Angels" Pentangeli
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (zBaqJ)
The Nice Touch was when "they" set the table for this "suicide" a couple of weeks ago when "they" "reported"
Epstein was "depressed and suicidal."
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:31 AM (3R9oS)
Well, there was that one rodeo clown that was wearing an Obama mask
HAte CriME!!
Posted by: Bruce at August 10, 2019 10:31 AM (vd8XM)
seems logical
Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at August 10, 2019 10:31 AM (+72t1)
Honestly, does anyone here remember ANYONE making any type of threat against Obama, for 8 freakin' years?
I didn't hear one. From anywhere. And now here we are, and it's ratcheting up with speed, just in the last few weeks.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (cY3LT)
God Forbid it happens, but it will feel like we were watching it in slow motion the whole time.....
We knew Bulger was going to get clipped before it happened
We knew Epstein was going to get clipped before it happened.
Will we say "we knew it" one more time?
God Forbid.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:31 AM (NFEMn)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:25 AM (NFEMn)
This is right out of Blade, the chattle are everywhere. Wouldn't surprise me if they've got tattoos on the insides of their lips.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 10:31 AM (q1al1)
That giant gust of wind was a sigh heard somewhere over Chappaqua...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (zBaqJ)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:24 AM (I2/tG)
No, Putin's enemy Magnitsky suddenly had a fatal "heart attack" while he was in custody, even though he was a relatively young man. What a twist!
and some reports are sounding like the Epstein Incident is going to be kicked over onto this track.
Posted by: Tom Servo at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (Jh1to)
Posted by: hogmartin at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (t+qrx)
As I said in the thread below, I don't watch tv news or read twatter, but from what I see, Scarborogh looks like someone who is a paid mouthpiece, more than almost anyone else I've seen.
He was a supposedly "conservative" congressman at one point, right?
So how did he get here?
Makes sense to me to just chalk it up to, they found his kink, took pictures, showed him said pictures, and let him know they have the negatives.
Bam. Done. He's theirs, for life.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (Jh1to)
He was segregated and a special case, not in the general population. And on suicide watch. Even a government run by AOC shouldn't fuck that one up.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (ABjxW)
..
Ah my mistake.
It sounded like a city detention facility.
Often times a federal inmate will await trial n a city/county jail.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (MAstk)
watching you while you commit suicide, so they can critique your form
and make suggestions.'
Still better than the most-recent movie.
Posted by: CayleyGraph at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (+DIDk)
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (3CTnW)
This is a seminal moment for the future of this country. We have now officially, and without doubt, entered banana republic territory. The Whitey Bulger death was just an appetizer.
Posted by: LGoPs
======
A claque of pedos around the world turn their grateful eyes to the corrupt, incompetent American justice and penal systems.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (NFEMn)
Posted by: josephistan at August 10, 2019 10:33 AM (7HtZB)
*deletes*
Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 10:33 AM (QwmrN)
Posted by: CLINT FLICKER at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (3CTnW)
One out of a lot more. That's the rub.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:33 AM (ABjxW)
Ask Joke Scarborough if Russians killed the intern that Scarborough murdered in his office?
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter
Wait, that's the plot line for the Charles Bronson movie Telefon.
Posted by: Puddleglum, job huntin' at August 10, 2019 10:33 AM (3kJK+)
Hard to kill yourself in a Russian jail. The first step in intake in to strip naked, hand your clothes over to be searched, while you are examined to make sure you aren't hiding anything on your person.
I don't think they have sheets in Russian jails, either.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:33 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (sGotD)
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (q6jjE)
Frankly, that's my take as well. The document release yesterday implicating several prominent Dem pols and UK's Prince Andrew means that there's blood in the water on the sex trafficking now. Don't forget Pres Trump's EO a couple of years ago authorizing asset seizure for human rights abuses. Dude knew he was going to die in prison; might as well do it on his terms rather than due to shiv between the ribs. Child abusers don't tend to do well in the Big House.
Posted by: Retired Buckeye Cop is now an engineer at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (5Yee7)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (NFEMn)
Maybe the Russians also planted that dead intern in his Congressional office?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (cY3LT)
They do it smart, though. Not JUST the blackmail. Joe's pocket's are lined. He's living a nice life. He just has to remember not to get uppity, and never forget who's boss.
The carrot AND the stick.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (dN3Mf)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (Jh1to)
He was segregated and a special case, not in the general population. And on suicide watch. Even a government run by AOC shouldn't fuck that one up.
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:32 AM (ABjxW)
Unless this outcome was their intent. Then I'd say they succeeded.
Posted by: Moki at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (mFoNl)
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (BiNEL)
The highest bidder would be my guess.
This is a message. If they'd just wanted to off him, they'd have given him a heart attack shot. Yeah, people would still have been suspicious, but it would have been plausibly deniable.
That the guy manages to "hang himself" while allegedly already on "suicide watch"? That's a message.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (tY4MP)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (sGotD)
And no one to prevent it being destroyed like Weiner's laptop...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (zBaqJ)
thingies....wheewh I dodged a bullet there..damn this mike is still on....fuck.....
Epsteins' Jewellers are offering Star of David nooses half off......chokers included for free.......
Posted by: saf at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Bilwis, Devourer of Low Glycemic Souls at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (jp0Bv)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (tY4MP)
I think you are correct
Posted by: votermom happy to have read a good book! at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (+72t1)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (+8+gB)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (sulRy)
Hate to say it, but on days like today, I think about Andrew Breitbart.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Max Power at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (nRWPy)
Jeff Epstein is one more example of Gaggle doing it's thing with it's coding.
Search for "jeff epstein and bill clinton"
And gaggle brings back more Trump related headlines than Duck Duck Go.
Posted by: Blanco at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (HltPS)
Posted by: Marcus T at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (Jh1to)
4 of them went on and on virtue signaling how Trump is a racist. One said she gets her news from Colbert. Another said she was at the Obama inauguration and how the black people there just worshiped him and were so proud.
I wanted to ask her what exactly the Black Jesus did for them but kept my mouth shut.
You cannot fix stupid.
Posted by: Czech Chick at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (haWye)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (NFEMn)
Kay: "You know how naive you sound? Senators and Presidents don't have people killed."
Michael: "Now who's being naive, Kay?"
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (zBaqJ)
But couldn't they have at least checked his cell for speakers when he claimed to keep hear Bill whispering, "Just do it. Just go for that sweet release."
Posted by: MKoepf at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (DfSI5)
Posted by: dagny at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (nRWPy)
If I were Blago, I'd have my Rosary glued to my hands right now....
Posted by: JoeF.
Iiiinteresting. I've been trying to figure out why Trump has suddenly started talking about pardoning Blago. My guess is that Blago knows a great deal about Obama and his flying monkeys and is negotiating terms.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (H8QX8)
Posted by: saf at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (5IHGB)
Dude......that's pretty tasteless.
Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (ykq7q)
So much for the suicide watch, maybe we should be looking at any large purchases by those that were guarding him or in proximity to him.
And before any cucks try and use this as proof of rampant conservative conspiracy theory I say this with heavy sarcasm so you can go fuck yourselves.
Posted by: Scuba_Dude at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (JslNf)
Posted by: Max Power at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (QCc6B)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (sGotD)
But with the case closed, there's really no need to review any of the corroborative evidence..
that was destroyed yesterday...
totes by accident...
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:36 AM (BiNEL)
If we had an honest media, they'd swarm this story like flies on a hot turd. It's painfully obvious if this story they're feeding us is true, then he knew what would happen to him and to the people connected to him.
No matter how you look at this, it stinks on ice.
Yet, the media will collectively shrug their shoulders, and go back to Orange Man Bad.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (q1al1)
right, that part is not theory. But now the heart attack "news" ... oh, just natural causes, from the stress.
Didn't Hillary advocate for The Resistance to interfere in normal process throughout government. Gee, would he army of seditious resisters find any way to thwart the democratic process at every level? Every person in The Resistance is committing treason/sedition and we need some real hangings ... or we have surrendered to DeepState and the oligarchs.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (Cus5s)
Wait for it...
The piece de resistance will be the "discovery" of a detailed confession penned by Epstein exonerating BJ Clinton, all other leftists, and incriminating the president.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (3R9oS)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (sGotD)
And no one to prevent it being destroyed like Weiner's laptop...
Posted by: J.J. Sefton at August 10, 2019 10:34 AM (zBaqJ)
Swarms of jackets, labeled "FBI" traipsing through his property does not give me a warm sense of justice going on here.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (QwmrN)
Oh, they let Magnitsky die, after months of denying him medical care, but they still didn't try to claim that he "committed suicide".
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: MAGA at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (hXmEF)
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (QZCjk)
totes by accident...
100%, the FBI already took care of this a couple of weeks ago. There ain't nothing but the word of a bunch of crazy ladies.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (q1al1)
Ha, I've fucked up everything I ever touched, wise guy!
Posted by: AOC at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (qul7b)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (KP5rU)
You know...Epstein just happened to tell his [leftist] lawyers all kinds of things just before he "committed suicide."
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (3R9oS)
Posted by: Charlie Gibson at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (KCxzN)
And the Baby Boomers mourn another member of their generation.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v
oh for the love of pete
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:26 AM (lwiT4)
Evidently you are tired of hearing this "baby boomer" shit. I know I am. Most baby boomers served honorably in Vietnam or over in Germany. I am a Nam vet and a baby boomer. How many in the current generation can claim to be a war vet. Personally I think the so-called "greatest generation" was the worst. They elected FDR 4 times.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Your First Clue at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Barr at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: The FIB at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (DTX3h)
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (q1al1)
No shit. The organization that organized a Presidential Coup is going to suddenly start preserving evidence to take down the Deep State ?
Yeah - I ain't buying it either.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (dN3Mf)
The piece de resistance will be the "discovery" of a detailed confession penned by Epstein exonerating BJ Clinton, all other leftists, and incriminating the president.
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (3R9oS)
Be better if it said the President had nothing to do with it but the press will use it as a false flag to attack him anyway, like the El Paso shooter did.
Posted by: Burnt Toast at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (1g7ch)
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:38 AM (3R9oS)
The operative word is "leftist"!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (BiNEL)
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (uEbPt)
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (RuIsu)
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:39 AM (mpXpK)
I agree with you about 'Nam and all that, but chronologically, it wasn't The Greatest Generation that elected FDR four times. They were kids when he was elected.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (NFEMn)
but got a 525 error from Tiny url. WTF
Posted by: davo at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (sMLEE)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (oVJmc)
Posted by: LGoPs at August 10, 2019 10:29 AM (sulRy)
I wondered in the last thread if this could be the moment where the Deep State jumped the shark. Whether that turns out to be the case or not, I think you're right. We're in uncharted territory now.
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (sdi6R)
..
Even though it looks like Hillary's handwriting!
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Lord Comey at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (kLDv+)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Soothsayer -- Fake Commenter at August 10, 2019 10:37 AM (3R9oS)
Written by Sid Blumenthal.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (vmRc0)
Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (RuIsu
It works like a nicotine patch, only deadlier.
You put it on your wrist like any other watch and it excretes toxins into your bloodstream that eventually kill you...
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (NFEMn)
I bet there will be 45 conspiracy theories that 45 did Jeffrey in to prevent a scandal.
On my FB feed by 10:00 AM. The hive mind is strong!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (dPMBY)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (RK98Q)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (cY3LT)
And Antonin Scalia.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (sulRy)
A guy who had information that would have destroyed rich and powerful
men's lives ends up dead in his jail cell. How predictably...Russian.
-- Joe Scarbourgh
What a fucking wanker. But the MFM will push that Trump is behind it and completely ignore anything related to the Clinton crime family
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (HGStn)
Rumor has it that Obama was on a FBI wiretap, trying to convince Blago to appoint Valerie Jarrett to his old Senate seat. No indication of what "inducements" were offered.
After Obama was overheard on the wiretap, the Robert Mueller FBI immediately terminated its investigation, and brought charges against Blago.
Jarrett was a known candidate for the Senate seat, but suddenly withdrew her name from consideration, without explanation.
The FBI obviously tipped her off, warning her that she needed to stay away from this.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v
Why would baby boomers mourn him?
There are good and bad people in every generation which should not be news to you.
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (+0VWg)
"That's hearsay, Your Honor, and Mr. Epstein isn't here to testify."
Posted by: Your First Clue at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (Ndje9)
chronologically, it wasn't The Greatest Generation that elected FDR four
times. They were kids when he was elected.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:40 AM (NFEMn)
That is not what the news asshole that coined the phrase "greatest generation" said. He specifically credited saving us from the depression and fighting in WWII.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (mpXpK)
Posted by: Ben Rothliesbegergler at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (9dzlp)
This is done routinely, all over the country. The MCC where Epstein died is NOT staffed by the federal Bureau of Prisons. It is staffed by state correctional officers.
Posted by: mnw at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (TpYKj)
Posted by: Yakoff Smirnoff at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (q1al1)
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (mpXpK)
Tom Brokaw.
He's stupid.
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (NFEMn)
An intent who worked for a purportedly conservative Congressman wound up dead... how Floridian.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (dPMBY)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:27 AM (cY3LT)
Yup. No one does this if they seriously think Joe Biden will cruise to 350 EVs. They are making it impossible for Republicans to respect their fraudulent elections or ever trust them with power. This is because they know if Trump makes it to 2024, the Democratic Party will have long ceased to exist.
Often repeated, but worth remembering.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (5CbY5)
Interesting point - both were protected by Mueller because they were his informants, right?
*puts on tin foil hat*
What if they were concerned he would share what he did for Mueller, not his pedo VIP friends?
*takes hat off*
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (RK98Q)
They don't care. They know They can get away with it.
Posted by: josephistan at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Fluoride Joey Scar at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (dYe5S)
Posted by: Weasel at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (MVjcR)
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v
That just might be dumber than Kurt or that Wilson jerk above.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (HGStn)
Posted by: Prince Andrew at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (RuIsu)
Do they honestly think they can sell this?
Posted by: creeper
At one point, I would have agreed with you, but with all we've seen over the last decade, not only do they think they can get away with it, they probably will.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: keena at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: Locke Common at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (NanIO)
Posted by: Pliney at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (nzKWW)
the Epstein guy was great in Welcome back Carter.
Posted by: Weasel at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (MVjcR)
Dear Mr. Kotter,
Please excuse my son Jeffery from class today he's out raping underage girls.
Signed,
Epstein's mother
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (HGStn)
I hear ya, Vic. Still ticked off that you guys never were recognized by
the nation for your service and sacrifice. Where's the parade? Still
waiting for my son's too.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (lwiT4)
I had a parade of Hare Krishnas at the SF airport.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (mpXpK)
*******
That Was Quick: #ClintonBodyCount Is Trending on Twitter Following Epstein's Death
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: rusty shacklefjord at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (Hw4bz)
If only more pedophiles would commit suicide each day!
Posted by: Lord Comey at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (kLDv+)
I'll be curious to see which of our harping cuck twatters are chirping loudly today, and which ones are stone cold silent.
I'm not sure what it would mean, but if someone is enterprising and patient enough to monitor this today, I think there might be some interesting results.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
Wrong.
Wikipedia:
The Metropolitan Correctional Center, New York (MCC New York) is a United States federal administrative detention facility in Manhattan, New York which holds male and female prisoners of all security levels. It is operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons, a division of the United States Department of Justice.
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: Ripley at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (NbRJx)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (NFEMn)
Posted by: keena at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: The ARC of History! at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (I2/tG)
Posted by: josephistan at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (7HtZB)
They're in blatant "Try and stop us, if you dare!" mode.
Nobody dares.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (vmRc0)
Posted by: Circa (Insert Year Here) at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (XrCyE)
Do they honestly think they can sell this?
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (RK98Q)
The MFM will push whatever lie they want to. Plus I'll bet a bunch of them are caught up in this too
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (HGStn)
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (mpXpK)
O gosh yes. I wonder whatever happened to those people.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (lwiT4)
The Conservative Case For Assisted Suicide While Incarcerated And Under Suicide Watch
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (dPMBY)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (RK98Q)
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 10:41 AM (sdi6R)
They've already jumped 10 sharks and they're still sailing along.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (9dzlp)
Posted by: Iosif Vissarionovich at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (Hg4NE)
I'm not sure what it would mean, but if someone is enterprising and patient enough to monitor this today, I think there might be some interesting results.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
You're going to see it painted as the people who think foul play may have been involved as "defending" or "siding with" Epstein, and therefore will be smeared as Pedophiles.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (vmRc0)
Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (RuIsu)
@AnnCoulter
Jul 25
Dear Bureau of Prisons: Please get Jeffrey Epstein to a super Max prison pronto, or the people who want him dead will make sure we never know the truth. ACT NOW!
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (sGotD)
Posted by: Cuthbert the Witless at August 10, 2019 10:44 AM (9dzlp)
Slick Willie: It might be predictable, but it works
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (HGStn)
..
I'm not either.
The guy was a 66 y.o. billionaire facing a life sentence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (MAstk)
He was in a STATE jail. The fed govt pays state jails to house federal
prisoners on a short-term basis, usually while such prisoners are
awaiting trial.
This is done routinely, all over the country. The MCC where Epstein
died is NOT staffed by the federal Bureau of Prisons. It is staffed by
state correctional officers.
Posted by: mnw at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (TpYKj)
That is incorrect. He was in MCC New York, federal administrative detention center operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons.
Posted by: Brian in New Orleans at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (rnXGe)
O gosh yes. I wonder whatever happened to those people.
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (lwiT4)
They are still around but the press does not report it just like code pink. Its not "news" or anti-Trump.
Posted by: Vic at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (mpXpK)
Nobody dares.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (vmRc0)
That's it.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 10:49 AM (H8QX8)
Did he die thinking about his private church on pedo island, Satan worshiping ritual abusing good times? Did he go to Satan with a smile on his face?
Bet not.
Posted by: AOC at August 10, 2019 10:50 AM (qul7b)
Posted by: Tom Hagen at August 10, 2019 10:50 AM (SqopC)
the most we would've gotten out of him is blank-faced denials and 5th amendment silence. The suicide makes sense as the desperate last move of a power hungry guy who knows he's caught and finds life in a subordinate position vile and hateful to the point of death.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (q6jjE)
=======
This is why I'm comfortable to some degree with his cohorts escaping justice -- it would have happened with or without his suicide.
However, as Joe F. says, wtf, the fucking shame and disgrace to American institutions that this could happen. FUCK, I think of this as happening in a WWII cell.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 10:50 AM (13CQC)
22 "...next round of pints on me lads!"
Posted by: Prince Andrew at August 10, 2019 10:17 AM (cfV8p)
Hung himself, he did?
Used a Windsor Knot, you say?
How conveeeeeenient!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (dPMBY)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (sGotD)
all we've seen over the last decade, not only do they think they can
get away with it, they probably will.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:45 AM (T6t7i)
Don't forget, they probably have a backlog of false flag operations they can trot out if need be. All they have to do is distract the plebes for a week, and everything else is flushed like the squirts in an airport toilet.
Posted by: clutch cargo at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (Z1ykJ)
I'm not one for conspiracy theories
..
I'm not either.
The guy was a 66 y.o. billionaire facing a life sentence.
Posted by: HA
You're missing the point. It isn't that Epstein might be suicidal, it's that he was theoretically on suicide watch.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Epstein's Suicide Watch at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (9dzlp)
Posted by: AOC at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (qul7b)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:35 AM (cY3LT)
And Antonin Scalia.
Posted by: LGoPs at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (sulRy)
Well, Justice Scalia was 78, and a rather portly fellow, but yeah, I don't rule anything out, when it comes to conveniently timed deaths.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (cY3LT)
Shows what I know. Very damn little, apparently. At least I can still drink. New nic will be I Drink and I Don't Know Shit.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 10:52 AM (dN3Mf)
..
Suicide watch where I am is lights on 24/7 and a physical check every 15 min.
If the Feds are the same my point stands.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:52 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 10:52 AM (ptqGC)
1. Epstein
2. Clinton
3. Clinton Body Count
LOL
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (sGotD)
Take a peek at that Cheri Jacobus (whoever she is) twitter. They're saying Bill Barr offed him
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 10:52 AM (HGStn)
But here we are; With the # of times the FNM has been caught lying to protect deep state criminals ,unless the FNM can give me interviews of a whole bunch of prison personnel and inmates who witnessed the suicide or found the body hanging there my rational side sees no reason to push back on my imagination.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 10, 2019 10:52 AM (vrfMC)
Sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat, realizing that Jimmy Carter is still technically eligible for another term as President of the United States.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (tY4MP)
I'm not one for conspiracy theories
..
I'm not either.
The guy was a 66 y.o. billionaire facing a life sentence.
Posted by: HA
=======
Let's see how open and transparent the investigation into a jail suicide is.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: saf at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (5IHGB)
Didn't Hillary have an office in Manhattan...and Epstein was in the Manhattan Correctional Facility?
Coincidence, I think not!
:-)
Posted by: socalcon at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (Roy2Z)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (+8+gB)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (RvOhM)
me too, and Ace's friend that worked for Breitbart, from my home town, ran for rep here ... then suddenly died at like age 50 ... met him once, seemed healthy to me. People die sure, but ...
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (QZCjk)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (RK98Q)
Hey creeper, good of you to ask. Last I heard, she'll be in the animal hospital for 3-5 days. The vet was optimistic, and Lucy was a little bit more animated last night. Appetite still hasn't returned. So she'll be getting treated for the next few days but there seems to be reason to be hopeful at this point.
Posted by: Insomniac at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (ywNoU)
Do they honestly think they can sell this?
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM
Yes, yes they do.
All they need is a "bigger" news story to break today in time for the evening news
as natural disasters are hard to pull off, they'll just have to create a big news story what will get everyone spun up
SQUIRREL!!!
my "surprise meter" will barely even twitch when we hear about the "man-made disaster" this afternoon
Cynical? Yes, I am. Thanks for asking
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (KCxzN)
Posted by: Constantine XI at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (yiAMj)
If the Feds are the same my point stands.
Posted by: HA
For a guy known worldwide, and involved with people at the highest levels? No. Anyone with a brain would have at least had the guy under constant TV surveillance, if not having someone stationed outside the cell.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:54 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (tY4MP)
Hey! Cut that out!
Posted by: BignJames at August 10, 2019 10:54 AM (ykq7q)
And if one, in the position of Clinton, could increase the chances of not being prosecuted by whispering to friends of friends what a great thing it would be if the Epstein problem might "go away on its own" and how such good fortune might be rewarded by future "security detail" jobs with the Clintons, what are the chances such whispering did not happen?
I'm not saying Kaiser Sose blew away the bookkeeper directly, but let's just say the greatest trick the devil ever played was to convince the world he didn't exist.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 10:54 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 10:54 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (Cus5s)
And not long after he met Bill Ayers...
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:54 AM (vmRc0)
A hotbed of Republican and Russian intrigue, and totally not a facility in the heart of a blue city staffed with union blue suits.
Posted by: Downcast at August 10, 2019 10:54 AM (p6Q7Q)
I love how liberals are getting to their conspiracy theories first to hope and muddy the waters.
Never mind the Clintons have this serendipity of people committing suicide at the right moment.
Posted by: Blago at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (zuvmW)
Posted by: socalcon at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (Roy2Z)
Ok, thought maybe a little or more.
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (BbGew)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (BqBId)
I'm not sure what it would mean, but if someone is enterprising and patient enough to monitor this today, I think there might be some interesting results.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:46 AM (cY3LT)
You're going to see it painted as the people who think foul play may have been involved as "defending" or "siding with" Epstein, and therefore will be smeared as Pedophiles.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:48 AM (vmRc0)
I'm not at all interested in what gets said.
I'm curious who will be chirping and who will be silent.
Silent birds are sending a message too.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (cY3LT)
1. Epstein
2. Clinton
3. Clinton Body Count
LOL
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (sGotD)
The hate speech police must be abed nursing a hangover.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (di1hb)
as natural disasters are hard to pull off, they'll just have to create a big news story what will get everyone spun up
SQUIRREL!!!
Like, say, a Russian nuclear missile disaster? **dons tinfoil chapeau**
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (T6t7i)
Nobody dares.
Posted by: Hikaru at August 10, 2019 10:47 AM (vmRc0)
You're right, but that's fuckin' retarded of them. Shit like this turns people on to Infowars and way worse, faster than anything else you've seen. It destroys the image of "rule of law" that prevents a second Civil War. It's a flashpoint, uncontrolled incident, Masquerade violation. Take your pick of terms. But these are the bread and butter of conspiracies, and the federal justice system is completely destroying its credibility in the name of protecting... who? Who could possibly be worth a potential end to their own power? Not the Clintons alone, that's for goddamn sure.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (5CbY5)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (87EdW)
1. Epstein
2. Clinton
3. Clinton Body Count
LOL
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 10:51 AM (sGotD)
By 1:00 EST:
1. Telletubbies: The Movie
2. Socks
3. Stupid conspiracy theories
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (upmlj)
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (BbGew)
Posted by: Truck Monkey at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (flINI)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Serious Cat at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (Xqo6t)
Wanted to him to be comfortable to come back to the city
just in case they needed to "talk" to him
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (+8+gB)
rolled in to hospital??? how would they know??? I am putting on my
Tinfoil cap will say this looks like Witness Protection, HEY LOOK
HE DIED
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (BqBId)
hmmm....interesting
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (lwiT4)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (oR37s)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Monty James at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (Zqz9o)
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (0OmEj)
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: saf at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (5IHGB)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 10:56 AM (87EdW)
That's so cute compared to all the stuff they've done since. But yeah, at this point the answer is "they'll destroy the DoJ as a concept before facing justice for their crimes."
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 10:58 AM (5CbY5)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 10:58 AM (oR37s)
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Did you know that IL got rid of the hearsay exemption when someone is dead?
The more you know . . .
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 10, 2019 10:58 AM (MIKMs)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 10:58 AM (ptqGC)
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Aaron Hernandez was also on suicide watch. It happens.
Not all facilities have cameras in every cell. And they don't have a guard staring at them 24/7.
People have misconceptions about suicide watch.
Now did he get special attention/treatment?
I have no idea.
But if it was standard SW it's not what people think it is.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (MAstk)
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I'm not either.
The guy was a 66 y.o. billionaire facing a life sentence.
Posted by: HA
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Let's see how open and transparent the investigation into a jail suicide is.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (13CQC)
I genuinely feel for those of you who don't want to consider conspiracies as something real.
I get it. Really, I do.
But look at your institutions. The ones that are big and powerful and have the ability to control human behavior.
Seriously, which ones do you trust?
Any of them? Some of them? Only a few?
It's scary thinking the world is a sinister place.
But it is.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Amon Goeth at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (+8+gB)
"constant TV surveillance"
News reports that the gurney held 'someone who looked like Epstein.
1+1=2 Epstein is on his island. Some poor schmuck was offed as cover.
Posted by: socalcon at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (Roy2Z)
They're killer.... order one today!
I denounce myself.
Posted by: Martini Farmer at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (3H9h1)
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (BbGew)
52 And the Baby Boomers mourn another member of their generation.
Posted by: Big Fat Meanie at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (DY3v
I hope you purchased those Sooper Dooper Deep Thinker pills with a money-back guarantee because they are not working for you. At all.
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (dPMBY)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (BqBId)
#Clintonbodycount. LOL!
Posted by: keena at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM
Yes, yes they do.
Posted by: AltonJackson at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (KCxzN)
It's easy to sell Normalcy to a Normalcy Addict.
How many people are tapping that vein, right now, with a powerful thirst for something - anything - to help them believe this isn't exactly what it looks like, an Epstein hit ? They'll buy anything to get on with their day. Just a little something to take that scary edge off. Mama needs her Little Helper - a small taste even, enough to believe everything's gonna' be all right a little while longer.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (dN3Mf)
Tell me again why NY prosecutors wanted to transfer Paul Manafort to Riker's Island. I don't want to believe that even a New York prosecutor would like to inflct death on anyone that threatens the Democratic Party but you got to believe that if they and Jeffrey's erstwhile friends were willing to abrogate to themselves the authority to remove an elected President, why would they shrink from shrugging their shoulders at the death of a Democrat donor who identified as a pedophile.
Posted by: Punchinello at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (zOrpp)
I mean, if my job was to prevent various scumbags from killing themselves, I might spend majority of my time surfing internet on my phone rather than making sure they're safe.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (dYe5S)
So is Joe The Intern killer saying Putin did this?
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 10:58 AM (oR37s)
Pretty much. The Russians killed his intern, too.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (oVJmc)
rolled in to hospital??? how would they know??? I am putting on my
Tinfoil cap will say this looks
like Witness Protection, HEY LOOK
HE DIED
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (BqBId)
The FBI raiding Roger Stone's house: Pure coincidence
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (+vi/F)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (RK98Q)
Hi creeper! Haven't seen you in a while. They WANT you to know it's bullshit.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 10:53 AM (RvOhM)
Yes, it' s in a box next to Hillary's hard drives and emails.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: Your First Clue at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (Ndje9)
Posted by: Frasier Crane (I'm coming back!) at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (dmYb7)
Posted by: Pliney at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (nzKWW)
Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (Mr80f)
rolled in to hospital??? how would they know??? I am putting on my
Tinfoil cap will say this looks like Witness Protection, HEY LOOK
HE DIED
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 10:55 AM (BqBId)
hmmm....interesting
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:57 AM (lwiT4)
Likely a freelancer camped out at the jail to get a photo in case he was transferred. Photog sells the photo to the paper and "becomes" a photog for the paper. For that photo, anyways.
Posted by: Iron Mike Golf at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (di1hb)
Hot Air has 68 comments.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: Tomorrow's Headline at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: pahound at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (cfV8p)
My point being, pretty much all government officials, Congressmen or county jailers, are overpaid, lazy, and minimally competent at best. Why delve into conspiracy theories when the obvious answers is that Epstein's jailers were more interested in playing Candy Crush and avoiding difficult situations than they were in watching prisoners?
Posted by: Ted K. at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (FJYfm)
Just doing their job...spreading the manure as thinly as possible to make the story go away.
Posted by: socalcon at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (Roy2Z)
Posted by: creeper at August 10, 2019 10:42 AM (RK98Q)
Hi creeper! Haven't seen you in a while. They WANT you to know it's bullshit.
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (uEbPt)
And that we are pissants who should keep their place.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (Hg4NE)
I am a practicing christian because sometimes I am not very good at it.
Posted by: Picric at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (n9yaR)
Posted by: keena at August 10, 2019 11:02 AM (RiTnx)
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (MAstk)
A case like this needs a lot better than standard. To be clear, under standard procedure hanging yourself with clothes and bedsheets is nearly impossible. Bradley Manning can testify to that.
Let your preconceptions go, man. At some point people refuse to accept "working as intended" as an answer.
Posted by: trev006 at August 10, 2019 11:02 AM (5CbY5)
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If we had reporters an interesting story would be to find out who the suicide staff was and if they receive "meets expectations" on their performance reviews this year.
$500 says they do because no one gives a sh*t whether the suicide watch succeeds or not.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:02 AM (A8W5E)
Oh yes. On religious grounds.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:02 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:02 AM (BbGew)
We're "bugnuts," now?
What is that, even.
[Eyeroll]
The trolls here are the most amusing, by far.
Posted by: Flyover at August 10, 2019 11:02 AM (wfWN5)
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 10, 2019 11:03 AM (JUOKG)
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I follow existing facts the best I can.
Give me a *sliver* that something nefarious happened and I'll follow it until proven otherwise.
But to jump from suicide to Clintons is fun and nothing more.
We have enough BS that is clear and factual w/out having to make stuff up.
See no deep state indictments as one example.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:03 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:03 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: HA
True, but again, anyone with a brain would know how this would look if Epstein succeeded, and would take extraordinary precautions to prevent it. Assuming, of course, that they wanted to prevent it.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 11:03 AM (T6t7i)
Posted by: saf at August 10, 2019 11:03 AM (5IHGB)
..
BS
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:04 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Lewis Bowlby at August 10, 2019 11:04 AM (Lxxwf)
Posted by: Stalag Guard 1 at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM (aS1PU)
I can completely fathom a prison guard watching his phone instead of the cameras on Epstein.
Posted by: Jen the original at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM (McHAE)
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No it's not.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM (MAstk)
Now under normal circumstances in any prison, much less a Manhattan prison, this guy would be put out of population and watched over carefully given the publicity and circumstances but somehow he found another belt or sheet while he was put in a cell that had a fixture or something that would hold his weight as he hung himself.
Ok, I'm kidding. That didn't happen.
Posted by: Drider at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM (h7ves)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:12 AM (bDqIh
Yeah.
I feel cheated. I wonder what secrets died with him?
Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM (i/wJA)
I have it on good authority he was in cell block 8-8.
Posted by: Diogenes at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (axyOa)
Posted by: Frasier Crane (I'm coming back!) at August 10, 2019 11:00 AM (dmYb7)
What the fuck is this supposed to mean?
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (NFEMn)
Well that theory can be quashed if they do an autopsy and keep plenty of tissue/DNA samples.
Posted by: PaleRider is simply irredeemable at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (vrfMC)
Never underestimate incompetence.
Posted by: Dan Smoot's Apprentice at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (H8QX8)
Posted by: Jonah G. at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (7HtZB)
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:06 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Fritz at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (kLDv+)
I feel cheated. I wonder what secrets died with him?
Posted by: Emmie
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Don't feel cheated. I bet he wasn't going to spill anyway. Fifth Amendment all the way down.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (13CQC)
I mean, if my job was to prevent various scumbags from killing themselves, I might spend majority of my time surfing internet on my phone rather than making sure they're safe.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (dYe5S)
I find it interesting, in a psychological sense, that people NEED to believe there is NOT a conspiracy at work here.
I'm not going to say I know Epstein was murdered, because that would be silly.
I'm saying I think it's very possible, and there are plenty of reasons to believe we're not going to get a full account of what happened and why.
Incompetence is one possibility.
Another possibility is that there really are people who really are really really good at really really making people dead, when they want them really and truly dead.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (cY3LT)
Kurt Schlichter on Twitter, writing about Joey S, the sub of Mika -
No one rocks harder than that Gumby-haired home-wrecking sub-par intern-managing geebo!
Posted by: Krebs v Carnot: Epic Battle of the Cycling Stars (TM) at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (dPMBY)
Posted by: THE DEEP STATE at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (lMn1U)
Suicide? 33%
Homicide? 50%
Witsec? 22%
Honestly, they're all plausible.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (87EdW)
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (BbGew)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (sGotD)
2. Notre-Dame Cathedral Fire definitely not arson at the hands of Islamists
3. Epstein suicide
Interesting times #NothingToSeeHereFolks #MoveAlong
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (jY1B4)
Posted by: Emmie at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM (i/wJA)
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ALL of them... I hope.
Can I get an amen?
Posted by: Billy Jeff at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (flINI)
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No it's not.
To be done after one already tried to take his life in a prison that was responsible for his life and with any other inmate would have taken extraordinary measures so that he could not do it again simply does not happen.
Posted by: Drider at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (h7ves)
Posted by: Jen the original at August 10, 2019 11:05 AM
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Not sure how it works in NY but in Texas guards can't take their phones into the prison. They have to leave all of their stuff in lockers when they come to work.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (JUOKG)
Mike Golf at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (di1hb)
*******
But the Post is a Conservative Paper & bigtime Trumper, just seems mighty convenient for a Photog to be there
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:09 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:09 AM (BmSkj)
Guard gets fired.
Guard retires to tropical paradise.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (sGotD)
Guard ends up dead. Another "suicide"
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:09 AM (+vi/F)
Posted by: Chi-Town Jerry at August 10, 2019 11:09 AM (438dO)
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:09 AM (SqopC)
Suicide? 33%
Homicide? 50%
Witsec? 22%
Honestly, they're all plausible.
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (87EdW)
Hmmm. This is truly a no math blog.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (aS1PU)
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Yes it does happen.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Amon Goeth at August 10, 2019 10:59 AM (+8+gB)
Who?
Posted by: davo at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (sMLEE)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (KP5rU)
That was all the way back in '87. Reported matter-of-factly by all the news outlets. Not a smidge of curiousity by anyone. I was around 16 then, and remember thinking "Uh - you sure you don't wana' look into this ? That's awfully convenient."
Nope - nothing to see here. Move along.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (dN3Mf)
Guard gets fired.
Guard retires to tropical paradise.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM
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Guard mysteriously drowns in his two foot deep wading pool while retired.
Can't have any loose ends hanging out there.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (JUOKG)
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Incompetence is one possibility.
I'm not saying he was actually murdered, in the sense that someone came into his cell and strung him up. I think it's probable that they KNEW he was suicidal, because why wouldn't he be, and chose to give him the opportunity because it was convenient for some very powerful people. All they had to do was nothing.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (T6t7i)
I feel cheated. I wonder what secrets died with him?
Posted by: Emmie
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Don't feel cheated. I bet he wasn't going to spill anyway. Fifth Amendment all the way down.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (13CQC)
Sometimes the unsaid is more telling than the spoken. Now, We'll never know.
We'll never see the trial, never see who squirms and doesn't, never hear the questions asked and unanswered.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:10 AM (Hg4NE)
To be done after one already tried to take his life in a prison that was responsible for his life and with any other inmate would have taken extraordinary measures so that he could not do it again simply does not happen.
Posted by: Drider at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (h7ves)
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I think there are even special non-straightjacket clothes that the prisoners have to wear that make it very difficult to move the arms and legs.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: Hillary at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (QwmrN)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (+8+gB)
Posted by: Manufactured News Network: "We're Just as Shocked as You!" at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (Ndje9)
In my mind I suppose that powerful people wanted him dead they got what the wanted either through murder or by Epseins own hand (self murder).
Posted by: USNtakim profoundly deplorable. at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (0OmEj)
Might've been a non-affiliated stringer who called the Post first and they paid them for an exclusive. A lot of them hang out at hospitals and such hoping to get lucky like this.
Posted by: Ian S. at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (6XLoz)
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (JoUsr)
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (QZCjk)
Posted by: grammie winger at August 10, 2019 10:43 AM (lwiT4)
There actually was one, belated, for Vietnam vets in Chicago.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/nation-world/chi-chicagodays-vietnamvets-story-story.html
Posted by: Emmett Milbarge at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (o3AYq)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (87EdW)
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I follow existing facts the best I can.
Give me a *sliver* that something nefarious happened and I'll follow it until proven otherwise.
But to jump from suicide to Clintons is fun and nothing more.
We have enough BS that is clear and factual w/out having to make stuff up.
See no deep state indictments as one example.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:03 AM (MAstk)
Except that's not really what you're doing.
You are trying as hard as you can to avoid starting the process of seeking truth, by denying there's any reason to start looking.
You're on your own loop, and I don't want to try to stop you from doing that.
Good luck.
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (cY3LT)
Posted by: Barry at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (QwmrN)
Posted by: JAS at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (I5SAg)
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: Ted K. at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (FJYfm)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (BmSkj)
In a Federal Prison. Who has access to a Federal Prison besides the Feds? You're going to have to explain this one to me.
Can one be Arkancided in New York?
Posted by: Greybeard Represent at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (5Yukr)
Posted by: Farmer Bob at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (87EdW)
Ooops, the NYC morgue burned to the ground and destroyed the body before we could do an autopsy. It's odd that our new sprinkler system didn't work today. We have Top Men investigating the failure.
Posted by: Gref at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (AMIL/)
I'm expecting a glass booth spectacle lasting for a three months starting around September 2020.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (SqopC)
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Yes and no sheets either.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (MAstk)
Well that theory can be quashed if they do an autopsy and keep plenty of tissue/DNA samples.
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All samples curated by the 'Effin Big Incompetents and their infamous labs.
Posted by: mustbequantum at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM (MIKMs)
BREAKING: Alleged "camera malfunction" last night at MCC where Jeffrey Epstein was locked up.
I just hate when that happens. Yeah...pull the other one.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (RuIsu)
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Yes it does happen.
I would really like to get a photo of his cell. Being he was a high risk inmate on suicide watch, I can almost guarantee that his cell had a window and no bars to hang himself with.
Posted by: Drider at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (h7ves)
Posted by: Gil Lette at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (4Eo4+)
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (sGotD)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (bDqIh)
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Yep, perfectly normal.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBCGOOGLE at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (flINI)
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 11:11 AM (QZCjk)
You know he's not really dead - not as long as he Lives in our Hearts!!!
Posted by: Mariannne Williamson at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (V2Yro)
Posted by: JoeF. at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (NFEMn)
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The info I have is he committed suicide.
Do you have anything else for me to consider?
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (MAstk)
Jeff, I'm going to have to tie you up to take you to the prison library soon, so I'm leaving this rope here for when I do in a hour, don't be doing anything with it .
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (BbGew)
Eh, one thing you should consider before getting too sure Epstein was killed or whatever is that it wouldn't really surprise me if suicide watch prison guards were actually this incompetent.
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I'm with you...
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I mean, if my job was to prevent various scumbags from killing themselves, I might spend majority of my time surfing internet on my phone rather than making sure they're safe.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster
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No, you'd be a unionized state employee with a contract that stipulates 4 hours of Candy Crush for every 8-hour shift.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: BurtTC at August 10, 2019 11:07 AM (cY3LT)
I find it interesting, in a psychological sense, that people NEED to believe there IS a conspiracy at work here.
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (dYe5S)
Posted by: Jaun McCain roasting in hell at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (QwmrN)
Are you actually shitting me?
What are the odds of that (a) happening and (b) lining up with a non-coordinated attempt?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:14 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: Bruce at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (vd8XM)
I don't know the details of where the left's crime syndicate has the most power, I guess a SuperMax is safer. Where is the Weiner laptop ... anyone destroying key evidence at this point ... hang them high. It is our last hope.
DeepState is flexing their muscle ... could Barr have gotten Epstein to a SuperMax? idk, but imo Barr is much better, but still was a Bush Man, wasn't he? He may still want to restore public confidence in the (VERY CORRUPT) system ... which means for him, covering up a lot of the worst of it. tick tock, the clock is running out ... on the DeepState, or on the Republic?
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (Cus5s)
BREAKING: Alleged "camera malfunction" last night at MCC where Jeffrey Epstein was locked up.
I just hate when that happens. Yeah...pull the other one.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (cF8AT)
My brain says that can't possibly be true.
My instinct says of course it's true.
Posted by: DR.WTF at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (aS1PU)
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (A8W5E)
That 'camera malfunction' tweet is unverified...and I'm not even sure who the person tweeting it is...
So...LARGE grain of salt.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (cF8AT)
McAfee on Twitter:
I was stunned by Epstein's suicide, but probably not as much as Epstein himself.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (sGotD)
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (cF8AT)
Happens all the time. Nothing to be alarmed about.
Let's all sing the Lego song together. Everything is AWESOME. Everything is COOL.
Of course there's no video. Of course.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (dN3Mf)
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (sdi6R)
2019: Democrat scandal re: Epstein becomes Trump scandal re: Epstein.
All they do is lie.
Posted by: Gil Lette at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (4Eo4+)
Her Dad was a sleeper Mossad who tipped Israel off about Mordecai Vanunu. Look it up
Posted by: Greybeard Represent at August 10, 2019 11:15 AM (5Yukr)
clothes that the prisoners have to wear that make it very difficult to
move the arms and legs.
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Yes and no sheets either.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:12 AM
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Had an buddy put on suicide watch in a state prison once. No clothes, no shoes and one blanket was all that was allowed in the cell. Video monitored 24/7. When he ate a guard stood right there watching him and took the plastic spork and foam tray away from him when he was done.
Posted by: The Great White Scotsman at August 10, 2019 11:16 AM (JUOKG)
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 10, 2019 11:16 AM (pPNCa)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:16 AM (BmSkj)
Sorry to hear about Jeffrey Epstein's death...
Next Friday
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 11:16 AM (2DOZq)
"Jeffrey Epstein was a colleague, mentor, and most importantly a friend. His silence will echo around the world and, hopefully, inspire others to stay quiet themselves. For the only peace in this life is in quiet contemplation," a eulogy from Hillary Clinton.
Posted by: IrishEi at August 10, 2019 11:16 AM (sGotD)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 11:17 AM (oR37s)
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I saw that. Heh. Prince Andrew is also trending. I'm sure the Queen is very happy.
Posted by: Lady in Black - Death to the Man Bun at August 10, 2019 11:17 AM (JoUsr)
Posted by: Picric at August 10, 2019 11:01 AM (n9yaR)
That's humble and honest of you.
We're all works in progress.
I am not sorry that he is unable to have sex with underage girls anymore or that he's unable to arrange that other people have sex with underage girls. I am sorry-but don't know this- that he was unable to repent. I'm also sorry that people will get away with this-in this life.Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 11:17 AM (+0VWg)
Posted by: klaftern at August 10, 2019 11:17 AM (RuIsu)
Just asking for a friend.
Posted by: Sid B. last week at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (SqopC)
maybe it is that suicidal people that do not want to do the thing themselves gravitate to the clintons because they know there it is likely the clintons will have them murdered.
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (HALdu)
Posted by: The corrections dept at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (+8+gB)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (amw5z)
I had hoped for a quieter weekend this weekend.
Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (BVQ+1)
Now imagine that Jeffrey Epstein is one of your inmates and he has already attempted suicide. Now imagine that you didn't take extraordinary measures to insure his safety.
Nope. Not buying it.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (oR37s)
Grr well now I suspect something other. Damn them.
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (RvOhM)
@MichaelCoudrey
BREAKING: Alleged "camera malfunction" last night at MCC where Jeffrey Epstein was locked up.
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It'll happen.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (13CQC)
BREAKING: Alleged "camera malfunction" last night at MCC where Jeffrey Epstein was locked up.
I just hate when that happens. Yeah...pull the other one.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:13 AM (cF8AT)
Slick Willie: Shit happens....
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (+vi/F)
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SW differs in jurisdictions.
I'm surprised he got a blanket.
No clothes, sheets or shoes short of rubber flip flops is pretty standard.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: rdohd at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (NLrzt)
Posted by: Adirondack Patriot at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (BmSkj)
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (PvwG+)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 11:18 AM (oR37s)
They're getting better at it. At least this wasn't a random robbery where the guy still had his wallet.
Baby steps.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (dN3Mf)
Dammit, I hate it when I blow my FIRST goddam cup of coffee of the morning right out my nose! That hurts!
Posted by: Ray Van Dune at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (ySYar)
Do you have anything else for me to consider?
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Is this an actual question? How fookin' stupid are you? The Rick Wilson, is that you??
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (ty7RM)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster
YOU'RE FIRED!
Posted by: Frank's Supervisor at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (2DOZq)
Joking, right?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Puddin Head at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (QZCjk)
Posted by: Gmac - Winning never gets old, like me ... But I'm still winning dammit! at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (qZdIZ)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (RvOhM)
He was murdered. It's the easiest explaination.
Posted by: Bitter Clinger at August 10, 2019 11:19 AM (PvwG+)
He was allowed to murder himself.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (ptqGC)
The FDA requires that kind of "black box" warning on most antidepressants; also smoking cessation drugs like varenicline.
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (pPNCa)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (oR37s)
Posted by: Tyrone Green at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (owkQl)
Do you have anything else for me to consider?
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Is this an actual question? How fookin' stupid are you? The Rick Wilson, is that you??
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (ty7RM)
What info do you have?
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: yankeefifth at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (HALdu)
Ok, I'm gonna check myself....
That 'camera malfunction' tweet is unverified...and I'm not even sure who the person tweeting it is...
So...LARGE grain of salt.
Posted by: Tami
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It's snark. But it's harder to tell these days, isn't it?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (13CQC)
BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein was in his own cell at the time of his death, and was not on suicide watch, multiple people familiar with the investigation tell @NBCNews.
I'm....without....speech.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (KP5rU)
2. Notre-Dame Cathedral Fire definitely not arson at the hands of Islamists
3. Epstein suicide
Interesting times #NothingToSeeHereFolks #MoveAlong
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 11:08 AM (jY1B4)
Right there is why I have zero faith in the media and my "fellow citizens". Zero curiosity by anybody, never a follow up question. They really do just "move along."
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 11:23 AM (upmlj)
The prison guards will have to die, too, it seems. Isn't that how it works?
Posted by: Tyrone Green
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They'll have to be subjected to an investigation as competent as their own performance.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:23 AM (13CQC)
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If it's true he wasn't on SW there will be a major lawsuit.
And people need to be fired.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (MAstk)
BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein was in his own cell at the time of his
death, and was not on suicide watch, multiple people familiar with the
investigation tell @NBCNews.
I'm....without....speech.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (cF8AT)
The the ever loving HELL?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (ptqGC)
John Donne said that every man's death diminishes us.
While that may be true, we can also recognize that some deaths diminish us less than others.
Posted by: Rodrigo Borgia at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (tY4MP)
Posted by: Lurking Lurker at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (oR37s)
Posted by: West Virginian Woman at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (PvwG+)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (KQJ1/)
You're seeing it, in real time. If people don't want to believe something, you can't make 'em.
Same as the parent that can't believe little Johnny did such and such, or the stupid ass wife that will not believe her old man is out fucking everything that moves.
You'd like to believe that people are "reasonable" and "rational". Well, sometimes they ain't. They believe what they believe because they want to. And that's all there is to it.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (dN3Mf)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (ptqGC)
The people responsible for watching him knew he was high profile person.
If they were too dumb to understand their responsibility they were put there on purpose.
Or there was a ringer in the crew.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Iblis at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (Jen4h)
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Locally sourced organic cotton sheet.
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (A8W5E)
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Yes.
They prolly have a shitload of evidence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (MAstk)
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They'll have to be subjected to an investigation as competent as their own performance.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:23 AM (13CQC)
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Bob Mueller is tanned, rested and in need of a new hobby!
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:26 AM (amw5z)
@NBCNews 2 minutes ago
BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein was in his own cell at the time of his
death, and was not on suicide watch, multiple people familiar with the
investigation tell @NBCNews.
I'm....without....speech.
Posted by: Tami
So is Jeffrey Epstein.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 11:26 AM (T6t7i)
They probably accepted a hard copy of his emails curated by Lanny Davis and gave all his business associates immunity.
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:26 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 11:26 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: lowandslow at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (Mr80f)
I'm betting that info will end up like Barry's college transcripts: sealed for all eternity.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (ptqGC)
BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein was in his own cell at the time of his
death, and was not on suicide watch, multiple people familiar with the
investigation tell @NBCNews.
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As with most media "reporting" I consider this to be a lie. If CNN, or WAPO confirm this, I will know it is a lie.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (pw+jk)
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Yes.
They prolly have a shitload of evidence.
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You say the FBI has a bunch of evidence, huh?
Posted by: Moron Robbie -Eight Has No Home Here at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (A8W5E)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:27 AM (KQJ1/)
Are they blaming "Republican funding cuts to prisons" yet?
Posted by: xnycpeasant at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (BqBId)
I'm not defending Epstein but I think the Jane Doe that is making allegations is exagerrating for effect. It's not believable to me that Alan Dershowitz participated in sex with her multiple times.
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions
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Thought experiment. You're running a pedophilia ring. Your clients are some of the richest, most famous, most powerful people in the world. You don't want your "employees" to ever be able to make a credible accusation against them.
So you sprinkle in a few lookalikes of people with pristine reputations and who would never be involved in a situation like that, and who moreover are so damn good at lawfare that they could shut down those accusations in a New York minute. Have them say "Hi, I'm Alan Dershowitz" or "Hi, I'm Prince Andrew."
Just a thought.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: Radical Centrist at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (44Cld)
Do you have anything else for me to consider?
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Is this an actual question? How fookin' stupid are you? The Rick Wilson, is that you??
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:20 AM (ty7RM)
What info do you have?
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:21 AM (MAstk)
He was involved with the Clintons
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (+vi/F)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:28 AM (ptqGC)
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Sure. They're busy erasing or smashing it as we speak.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: Tyrone Green
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Yes.
Posted by: 6 Arkansas State Trooppers Assigned to Billy Jeff Clitoris at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (ty7RM)
police FBI whomever grab videos and other material evidence after the
busted him?
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Yes.
They prolly have a shitload of evidence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (MAstk)
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I think you meant to say "had." I'm expecting a big fire at Casa Clinton.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (pw+jk)
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Therefore they killed him.
Come on man, it's fun but I need a *sliver* of evidence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)
Don't forget making friends with the FBI (Mueller) to ensure they can make pesky state prosecutors cut you a deal.
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (bDqIh)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (KQJ1/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (amw5z)
They have to be competent at something.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (IlM5L)
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)
BREAKING: Jeffrey Epstein was in his own cell at the time of his
death, and was not on suicide watch, multiple people familiar with the
investigation tell @NBCNews.
I'm....without....speech.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:22 AM (cF8AT)
The the ever loving HELL?
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:24 AM (ptqGC)
A sign for us a warning to those who think they are protected.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (ZLI7S)
I'm afraid this will have to mean a promotion.
Posted by: FBI Supervisor at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (SqopC)
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (Cus5s)
Posted by: L. Beria) at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: gp at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (mk9aG)
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Keep in mind neither are confirmed.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (bDqIh)
I got dibs on his island.
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 11:31 AM (ZLI7S
You'll be high as a giraffe's ass and never find the damn island. Probably crash into Cuba.
Posted by: I Drink and I Know Things at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (dwxY9)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Tyrone Green
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Yes.
Posted by: 6 Arkansas State Trooppers Assigned to Billy Jeff Clitoris at August 10, 2019 11:29 AM (ty7RM)
Let's just hope it's a bathtub slip or heart attack, and doesn't involve their whole family in a car accident or a 737 falling out of the sky.
Posted by: Clutch Cargo at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (upmlj)
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Yes.
They prolly have a shitload of evidence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:25 AM (MAstk)
You misspelled "had".
Posted by: rickl at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (sdi6R)
What does the word suicide mean in the phrase suicide WATCH? Who was watching? Did they fall asleep? Did the camera malfunction? Was there camera surveillance? Who was he about to implicate? This is very questionable. Committing suicide on suicide watch doesnt happen.
Oh and this should make y'all feel better....FBI investigating.
Phew...whatta relief that is.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 11:33 AM (ZLI7S)
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There was an earthquake there a year or so ago, with an ensuing fire that basically destroyed all the structures.
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:33 AM (ty7RM)
At this level of CUCKNESS, cucks take
to twatter to denounce all conservatives as stupid or other derogatory
names to promote a leftist point of view. No longer do the cucks tweet
about sandwiches or hotdogs much less their pets.
DEF CUCK 3 is
when cucks take other cucks talking points and retweet them with late
night talk show hosts barbed points. Level of smugness is at 8 and
tweets are reaching over 500 milliKohns.
Posted by: Jukin the Deplorable and Profoundly Unserious at August 10, 2019 11:33 AM (pw+jk)
It's funny how government incompetence works. They can let a prisoner known to be depressed and desperate commit suicide right under their noses, but you can bet those video tapes and lists of names will be guarded like the gates to Paradise.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:33 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: Skip at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (BbGew)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (KQJ1/)
Posted by: Drider at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (h7ves)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (bDqIh)
What does the word suicide mean in the phrase suicide WATCH? Who was watching? Did they fall asleep? Did the camera malfunction? Was there camera surveillance? Who was he about to implicate? This is very questionable. Committing suicide on suicide watch doesnt happen.
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Valid questions that must be answered but he is wrong on suicide.
It happens more than people think.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:35 AM (MAstk)
Phew...whatta relief that is.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (cF8AT)
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Why not? They've cleared the Pulse nightclub shooting from their docket and aren't currently busy trying to depose a duly-elected American President.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:35 AM (amw5z)
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100% agree.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:35 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Pig to man dreaming of lions at August 10, 2019 11:35 AM (2DOZq)
What does the word suicide mean in the phrase suicide WATCH? Who was watching? Did they fall asleep? Did the camera malfunction? Was there camera surveillance? Who was he about to implicate? This is very questionable. Committing suicide on suicide watch doesnt happen.
Oh and this should make y'all feel better....FBI investigating.
Phew...whatta relief that is.
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:32 AM (cF8AT)
Conflicting statements: upthread it is said that it is reported he was not on suicide watch and now Giuliani is being reported as saying he was.
Which is true?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (hjaPQ)
Fuckity fuck I told you not to play with magnets in the evidence room!
I'm afraid this will have to mean a promotion.
Posted by: FBI Supervisor
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Where's my rubber stamp?
Posted by: Christopher Wray at August 10, 2019 11:37 AM (13CQC)
Come on man, it's fun but I need a *sliver* of evidence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)
Do they need evidence when they smear us? The left is already tried to push that Trump and Barr had him killed. Fuck them. Let the story be the Clinton crime family killed him.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:37 AM (+vi/F)
Conflicting statements: upthread it is said that it is reported he was not on suicide watch and now Giuliani is being reported as saying he was.
Which is true?
Posted by: Braenyard
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Rudi isn't the source of anything. He's probably reading the same news stories we are and he probably made the same naive assumption that the depressed, desperate prisoner was on SW.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (13CQC)
Sleep tight, Gam-Gam!!
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (ty7RM)
Huh, no kids of his own, right, so what's in his will?
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 11:34 AM (bDqIh)
An attorney on Fox this morning said the executor of his estate will have to pay the women who've filed claims against Epstein.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (ptqGC)
What does the word suicide mean in the phrase suicide WATCH? Who was watching? Did they fall asleep? Did the camera malfunction? Was there camera surveillance? Who was he about to implicate? This is very questionable. Committing suicide on suicide watch doesnt happen.
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Rudy has buddies all through NYC , He knows what happened/Happening
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Basement Cat at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (pPNCa)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (KP5rU)
Which is true?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:36 AM (Hg4NE)
We'll never know....
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (cF8AT)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (KQJ1/)
..
I agree with you here.
I set that aside from my personal belief of what happened based on existing information.
I could easily change my belief when more info is confirmed.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:39 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: JackStraw at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (ZLI7S)
*******
Right the Guy who DA in NYC was Mayor of NYC for 2 terms & if not term limited who have had more has no sources
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:38 AM (KQJ1/)
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You caused this, willow. Shame.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:40 AM (amw5z)
Oh and this should make y'all feel better....FBI investigating.
Get "Mister 88" the former assistant FBI director to look into it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (aKsyK)
I'm beginning to wonder if the FBI has ever honestly investigated anything. I mean even one single fucking case.
Posted by: Meade Lux Lewis
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I know of one case. Happened in an organization I was part of. But I still feel tempted to voir-dire myself off any federal jury duty by refusing to convict based on evidence gathered by the FBI.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (ptqGC)
https://nypost.com/2019/07/25/jeffrey-epstein-on-suicide-watch-after-hes-found-with...
Jul 25, 2019 · Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has been placed on suicide watch after being found sprawled out and injured in his federal jail cell, law enforcement sources said Thursday.
Author: Larry Celona
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Yankees at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (MAstk)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (KP5rU)
@Tom_Winter
NBC News: Jeffrey Epstein was not currently on suicide watch when he was found in his cell this morning.
He was, however, housed in his own cell without other inmates.
Reported by @jonathan4ny and @anblanx
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: Dam Son at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (LLUXC)
Right the Guy who DA in NYC was Mayor of NYC for 2 terms & if not term limited who have had more has no sources
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit
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Oh, so you know that he's a source and not just reading reports like the rest of us?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (amw5z)
Get "Mister 88" the former assistant FBI director to look into it.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 11:41 AM (aKsyK)
Yeah, that guy. Mueller's "top man."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (ptqGC)
******
Good Lord you are a DOLT on steroids
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (BqBId)
It happens more than people think.
Hermann Goering
Philip Markoff (the Craiglist Killer)
Posted by: Basement Cat
Of course it does. That doesn't mean it can't be prevented, just that it wasn't.
Posted by: pep at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (T6t7i)
He was reportedly placed on suicide watch following after a first suicide attempt on July 24
DailyMail
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: pawn at August 10, 2019 11:44 AM (PveK5)
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You scoff, but history shows that numerology is often the key to cracking these big cases.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:44 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:45 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (BqBId)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 11:45 AM (+0VWg)
Posted by: Brave Sir Robin
except the tape vault
Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2019 11:45 AM (bk3t/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:42 AM (amw5z)
They are just like the rest of them.
They fixate on who/what they think was criminal and chase it till they prove it.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (Hg4NE)
Good Lord you are a DOLT on steroids
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit
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Rudy says it's "questionable." If he knows everything, why does he have any questions at all?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: FenelonSpoke at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (+0VWg)
..
Both parties helped them and played along.
T disrupted that bigly.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:47 AM (MAstk)
Reported by @jonathan4ny and @anblanx
Posted by: Deep State
After the first cellmate saved his life, at least they learn from their mistakes.
Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2019 11:47 AM (bk3t/)
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:47 AM (amw5z)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:43 AM (BqBId)
And you are?
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:48 AM (Hg4NE)
In Goering's case, one of the jailers slipped him a cyanide capsule.
When the "suicide watcher" actively facilitates the suicide, the suicide
watch doesn't do much good.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 11:47 AM (amw5z)
Yep. "Here, Jeff. Let me help you tie that sheet to the top bunk rung."
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:48 AM (ptqGC)
@redsteeze
Lot of pundits are eager to blame Russia & not Hillary for Epstein's death. Just like the 2016 election.
7:33 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (jY1B4)
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Yeah, but there will be no trial with tapes and testimony during an election year.
Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (bk3t/)
Her answer was, "it was arkancided"
BWAHAHAHAHAH arkancided needs to be put in Webster's
Posted by: ZaN at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (NLEnr)
Posted by: Mark Andrew Edwards at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (xJa6I)
Jul 25, 2019 · Convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has been placed on suicide watch after being found sprawled out and injured in his federal jail cell, law enforcement sources said Thursday.
Author: Larry Celona
Posted by: Braenyard
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Was he moved to another facility after that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: chavez the hugo at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (KP5rU)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:46 AM (13CQC)
Rudy's slinging doubt. Being an honest cop he's po'd that Epstein didn't receive his day in court and justice.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (vfQ60)
An attorney on Fox this morning said the executor of his estate will have to pay the women who've filed claims against Epstein.
Posted by: Jane D'oh
Yeah, but there will be no trial with tapes and testimony during an election year.
Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (bk3t/)
Yeah. How conveeeeeenient.
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:50 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Jane D'oh at August 10, 2019 11:51 AM (ptqGC)
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:52 AM (BqBId)
Rudy's slinging doubt. Being an honest cop he's po'd that Epstein didn't receive his day in court and justice.
Posted by: Braenyard
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I know. In an atmosphere of conflicting reports and doubt just hours after the act, I don't set Rudy or anyone as the authoritative source. I don't think he picked up the phone and got the inside story on what happened in the dark of a state prison.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (WdocV)
Was he moved to another facility after that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (13CQC)
He was take to the hospital? and the presumably to the morgue or where ever they will *perform* the autopsy.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:54 AM (Hg4NE)
Posted by: Willow at August 10, 2019 11:54 AM (xgQOn)
I mean not enough explosions either, but come on, no one will see this movie.
Wait...this isn't a movie pitch?
Posted by: Michael Bay at August 10, 2019 11:54 AM (WdocV)
Posted by: motionview at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (pYQR/)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (13CQC)
******
FEDERAL PRISON
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (BqBId)
Rama Lama Lama Lama Lama Ding
Uh-uh-uh-uh-uh-oh-oh
Another child rapist is dead!
Posted by: Fritz at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (kLDv+)
Posted by: Lee Harvey Oswald at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (hjaPQ)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:53 AM (13CQC)
It was a federal facility.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 11:56 AM (Hg4NE)
******
The Photog was at the Hospital, not Prison
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 11:58 AM (BqBId)
FEDERAL PRISON
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit
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Federal, better still.
(Misread some of the comments above on the authority.)
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:58 AM (13CQC)
Posted by: steevy at August 10, 2019 11:58 AM (l9mVC)
Posted by: Kruggie at August 10, 2019 11:59 AM (RJNUb)
Posted by: steevy at August 10, 2019 11:59 AM (l9mVC)
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 12:00 PM (jY1B4)
Posted by: Nick Danger at August 10, 2019 12:00 PM (9MQsq)
But I wonder if they will continue or just say case closed.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2019 12:00 PM (r+sAi)
Was he moved to another facility after that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (13CQC)
He was take to the hospital? and the presumably to the morgue or where ever they will *perform* the autopsy.
Posted by: Braenyard
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No, I mean was he moved after he was (supposedly) put on suicide watch on (supposedly) July 25? I don't know whether a local facility was holding him before he got transferred to a federal facility or what.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 12:00 PM (13CQC)
Attkisson is tweeting about that .... and said whoever did/allowed it, would maybe rather be caught for the "assisted suicide", than for the evidence that could have come from Epstein. But I'd add, they felt pretty confident the NY slime would cover it up, like the Weinstein laptop ... we are governed by the mob.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 12:01 PM (Cus5s)
86 Did they confirm hanging?
I figure that Epstein paid someone who he never met or otherwise had contact with and who hates him smuggle poison to him in his food, and not tell him when, so it would be a surprise.
Easiest way to kill when the cameras are rolling 24/7.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:01 PM (/Fmtj)
In Goering's case, one of the jailers slipped him a cyanide capsule.
***
Err, why?
Posted by: 18-1
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That's one of History's Mysteries.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 12:01 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: motionview at August 10, 2019 11:55 AM (pYQR/)
Except, who trusts evidence hasn't already been or will be destroyed?
Posted by: Marybeth at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (4pK1/)
Come on man, it's fun but I need a *sliver* of evidence.
Posted by: HA at August 10, 2019 11:30 AM (MAstk)
Do they need evidence when they smear us? The left is already tried to push that Trump and Barr had him killed. Fuck them. Let the story be the Clinton crime family killed him.
Posted by: TheQuietMan at August 10, 2019 11:37 AM
This x1000.
It won't stop until they feel the sting of their own tactics used against them.
( Or, they just won't stop, period. Sigh )
Posted by: Hands at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (786Ro)
I. AM. SO. REASSURED. NOW.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:02 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: The Federal Bureau of Random Street Crime and 88's at August 10, 2019 12:03 PM (Ndje9)
55 Sure, the suicide looks suspicious. But I don't think it pans out as foul play.
1) Either Epstein was going to talk or he wasn't.
2) Suppose he wasn't going to talk. Then, this changes nothing. Maybe it even *helps*.
3) Suppose he was going to talk. Why? Why would that be a viable option for a guy like this? If he really was guilty of all that he seems to be, I don't think you could imagine ever getting out of this. His life was essentially over. For a nasty hedonist/powermonger like this, that's potentially worse than being dead.
4) Even if he wanted to live, he'd have to know the long knives would be out. In other words, if he talked, his probably wouldn't just be killed, but tortured and mutilated.
Baseline for me is that I don't see a massive legal downside to his death (esp. if there's lots of material evidence) because the most we would've gotten out of him is blank-faced denials and 5th amendment silence. The suicide makes sense as the desperate last move of a power hungry guy who knows he's caught and finds life in a subordinate position vile and hateful to the point of death.
Posted by: JeremiadBullfrog at August 10, 2019 10:22 AM (q6jjE)
*************
He could have decided to make a plea bargain.
Posted by: Horacio at August 10, 2019 12:03 PM (4/UWb)
Posted by: Lizzy at August 10, 2019 10:21 AM (bDqIh)
AND almost all of them are involved with, or in debt to, the Clinton Mega Corporation!
Posted by: Commissar Hrothgar at August 10, 2019 10:23 AM (BiNEL)
Just a reminder: Prince Andrew is QE II's third child, IIRC. Once Charles reproduced, Andrew became well-removed from the line of succession. I am sure Queen Elizabeth would hang Andrew out to dry in a heartbeat, were it to prove necessary to save the monarchy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (abNpZ)
Ran to store, heard on radio that FBI is investigating Epstein death.
I. AM. SO. REASSURED. NOW.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles
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They're having Crowdstrike examine the cameras.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (13CQC)
Posted by: Frasier Crane (I'm coming back!) at August 10, 2019 12:05 PM (dmYb7)
I like conspiracy theories just for the fun of it, not to believe in them, but to watch what humans can do with their imaginations.
But this one seems almost obvious.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2019 12:07 PM (r+sAi)
I am sure Queen Elizabeth would hang Andrew out to dry in a heartbeat, were it to prove necessary to save the monarchy.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon
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Hm. Exposing him as a pedophile would probably bring down the monarchy.
I don't think he did it. One reason is there's tape of that idiot ex-wife of his from years ago talking about a bribe from someone who wanted to get in touch with him for some cockamamie investment and she said Forget it, he's pure.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (13CQC)
I'm surprised Hillary hasn't appeared and said, "Yes, we had Epstein murdered, we did it for the good of the country" and idiots like Wilson would say, "Now, that's the kind of leadership we need."
Posted by: BeckoningChasm at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (l9m7l)
Whether it was DeepState FBI or WhiteHat FBI, they don't just blink at a guy blackmailing half of DC, imo. They'd use him for their own purposes ... or he'd be dead long ago, if they didn't find a way to prosecute him. But I have no real experience or any idea what our spooks are up to ... except they want open borders so are not on America's side.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (abNpZ)
i totally agree.
Don't think she's too pleased with these alleged shenanigans, even if he is supposedly her favorite child.
I think she'd kick him to the curb.
Posted by: Marybeth at August 10, 2019 12:08 PM (4pK1/)
Posted by: 13times at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (K3B2k)
Epstein did this on his own, lays out some interesting process"
I mean he thinks Epstein ran the blackmail thing on his own.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 12:10 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Roy at August 10, 2019 10:30 AM (ABjxW)
Well, the economy was tanking under Obama. Nobody had to express "hope" for that.
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2019 12:11 PM (abNpZ)
I like conspiracy theories just for the fun of it, not to believe in them, but to watch what humans can do with their imaginations.
But this one seems almost obvious.
Posted by: Guy Mohawk
======
I think we'll gasp at the incompetence that's revealed. People will then raise all kinds of hell about unfire-able civil servants and unions, half-hearted gestures of reform will be made, and somehow the people who are doing honest work will be inconvenienced the most. Like with the SOX Act.
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 12:11 PM (13CQC)
@CarolLeonnig
People close to Epstein fear he was murdered...as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days...
8:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 12:11 PM (jY1B4)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:13 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:16 PM (QwmrN)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 12:17 PM (WdocV)
Carol Leonnig @CarolLeonnig
People close to Epstein fear he was murdered...as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days...
Posted by: Deep State is in Deep Shit at August 10, 2019 12:19 PM (BqBId)
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:20 PM (aKsyK)
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 12:22 PM (Cus5s)
@CarolLeonnig
People close to Epstein fear he was murdered...as Epstein told authorities someone tried to kill him in a previous incident weeks earlier. He was described as being in good spirits in recent days...
8:05 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 12:11 PM (jY1B4)
They'll put that statement down the memory hole.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 12:24 PM (Hg4NE)
Frank Pentangeli nods.
Posted by: Deplorable Jay Guevara at August 10, 2019 12:25 PM (qgh3L)
Posted by: Cannibal Bob at August 10, 2019 12:27 PM (l0HIT)
She's been outside the prison for hours trying to get info. Apparently, no press conference scheduled.
Her twitter page:
https://tinyurl.com/yxkfhb9h
Posted by: Tami at August 10, 2019 12:27 PM (cF8AT)
It was interesting that the press did not report that he had the numbers of about ten different Kennedys, with multiple contacts for each, and multiple contacts for John F. Kerry.
Posted by: Horacio at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (4/UWb)
Killed by a time travelling assassin.
Posted by: Bertram Cabot, Jr. at August 10, 2019 12:20 PM (aKsyK)
Careful, Zombie Harlan Ellison will sue you.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (oVJmc)
FBI
CIA
NSA
FISA Courts
Most Federal Courts
DOJ rank and file
My State Governor
My State Attorney General
48% of my fellow citizens
Posted by: Things I no longer have any faith in at August 10, 2019 12:30 PM (SqopC)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:33 PM (/Fmtj)
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1508273-jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-redacted.html
Posted by: Horacio at August 10, 2019 12:34 PM (4/UWb)
Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (QwmrN)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:37 PM (/Fmtj)
Clearly THE SWAMP has read R.L. Stevenson
Posted by: an ol exJarhead at August 10, 2019 12:40 PM (Dktim)
Posted by: Balrog of Morgoth at August 10, 2019 12:43 PM (5rWvu)
Posted by: P_Ang at August 10, 2019 12:44 PM (FGPDC)
Posted by: Frankovich's Monster at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (dYe5S)
Posted by: Max Power
At least one!
Posted by: Your First Clue
There are actually 3 including hermaphrodites who are born that way. None ever mentions the hermaphrodites and they don't make a big stink about it.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:46 PM (/Fmtj)
"It was not immediately clear how Epstein could have killed himself if
he was under suicide watch after being found unconscious three week ago
in his cell in Metropolitan Correctional Center. He had suffered
injuries to his neck in what appeared to be a suicide attempt or
jailhouse assault."
Posted by: Guy Mohawk at August 10, 2019 12:47 PM (r+sAi)
Posted by: Thatch at August 10, 2019 12:49 PM (E4mB6)
Posted by: yankeefifth
Let's stipulate Epstein had the suicidal intent. How do you explain the lack of means and opportunity?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:51 PM (/Fmtj)
Just saying
Posted by: Mudd at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (/6Rd1)
the Godfather ... "one day we'll ask you for a favor" .. turn off the
camera, don't send Epstein to SuperMax, burn the Weiner laptop ...
Occam's razor points to a DeepState mafia, imo. This is why so much of DC would leak, lie about Kavanaugh, countermand Trump orders, lie under oath ... they are confidant the DeepState is still in charge.
Posted by: illiniwek at August 10, 2019 12:52 PM (Cus5s)
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:58 PM (/Fmtj)
Posted by: blue horseshoe at
How does he not?
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 12:59 PM (/Fmtj)
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2019 12:04 PM (abNpZ)
i totally agree.
Don't think she's too pleased with these alleged shenanigans, even if he is supposedly her favorite child.
I think she'd kick him to the curb.
Posted by: Marybeth
Not long ago he would have smothered Charles with a pillow and been King.
Posted by: Jean at August 10, 2019 01:00 PM (bk3t/)
Would this be the same FBI which employed one Robert Mueller, who KNOWINGLY allowed three innocent men to languish in prison because he was protecting his "asset" Whitey Bulger? The same Whitey Bulger who, after certain elements of the press publicized the "three innocent men" details, got moved to a different prison and was shanked within 24 hours of his arrival?
Would this be the same FBI which diligently investigated Stephen Paddock and the Las Vegas shooting for a full year, then reported, "gee we don't know anything about anything in this incident, case closed"?
Hmmmm? I imagine the incriminating documents Epstein left behind after his Arkancide are being burned even as we speak.
Posted by: Doo-Dah, Doo-Dah at August 10, 2019 01:02 PM (Cx1BU)
It does help Bill Clinton.
That guy is just lucky, I guess?
Posted by: garrett at August 10, 2019 01:02 PM (hqsD4)
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2019 01:03 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:05 PM (oVJmc)
@SethAbramson
Understand that the reason Russian bots are all over the Internet making wild claims about a Clinton connection to the Epstein suicide is because key people in the United States and abroad know the *Trump* connection to Epstein is the one that matters, and is the real story here.
7:46 AM - 10 Aug 2019
Posted by: David at August 10, 2019 01:05 PM (jY1B4)
Posted by: blue horseshoe at August 10, 2019 12:36 PM (QwmrN)
This is a PSA to all other potential government witnesses.
Posted by: Braenyard at August 10, 2019 01:06 PM (Hg4NE)
So, obviously Russia wants Americans to keep their guns, so they took out Epstein to change the current news cycle.
*eyeroll*
Posted by: Clyde Shelton at August 10, 2019 01:07 PM (7A4qQ)
Was he moved to another facility after that?
Posted by: Blonde Morticia at August 10, 2019 11:49 AM (13CQC)
He was take to the hospital? and the presumably to the morgue or where ever they will *perform* the autopsy.
Posted by: Braenyard
The autopsy is taking longer than usual because Epstein won't stop with the struggling and the screaming.
Posted by: Dirks Strewn at August 10, 2019 01:08 PM (/Fmtj)
https://www.facebook.com/shirley.skipperscott
You might want to bookmark that to reply/retweet to any dicks claiming that Trump had it done or Putin for Trump through the system.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Metropolitan_Correctional_
Center,_New_York
Posted by: andycanuck at August 10, 2019 01:08 PM (Dh1wo)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2019 01:09 PM (+8+gB)
Understand that the reason Russian bots are all over the Internet making wild claims about a Clinton connection to the Epstein suicide is because key people in the United States and abroad know the *Trump* connection to Epstein is the one that matters, and is the real story here.
There's your new narrative, folks! It was RUSSIARUSSIARUSSIA, now it'll be EPSTEINEPSTEINEPSTEIN.
Posted by: Mr. Peebles at August 10, 2019 01:10 PM (oVJmc)
Posted by: REDACTED at August 10, 2019 01:09 PM (+8+gB)
OK, close it up. We have a thread winner!
Posted by: Alberta Oil Peon at August 10, 2019 01:11 PM (abNpZ)
The apparent suicide comes just hours aftera massive trove of documents was unsealed in a case linked to Epstein, in which one of his victims said she was forced to perform sex acts with high profile individuals, including
former Maine Sen. George Mitchell (D), former New Mexico Gov. Bill
Richardson (D), money manager Glenn Dubin and MIT professor Marvin
Minsky.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:11 PM (WdocV)
They must be a tie in with Republicans and older Democrats (who should die)
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2019 01:18 PM (e8kgV)
***
The good think about these new Democrats is that they aren't tied to the corrupt state the RINOs and Dems built.
The problem is they are f*cking Stalinists.
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (WdocV)
Joe Scarborough and Liberal Cranks and Conspiracy Nuts Blame RUSSIA after Epstein is Found Dead in Prison Cell
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2019 01:25 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: jhstuart at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (79gcP)
Camilla could have smothered him with her saggy ass and thighs. Unfortunately she didn't get it done.
Posted by: Aviator at August 10, 2019 01:27 PM (2cuLk)
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: Horacio at August 10, 2019 01:29 PM (4/UWb)
Posted by: 18-1 at August 10, 2019 01:23 PM (WdocV)
LMFAO!!!!!
Posted by: ... at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (uEbPt)
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2019 01:30 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: SMOD at August 10, 2019 01:32 PM (e8kgV)
Posted by: Ignoramus at August 10, 2019 01:43 PM (1SvcY)
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Remember, wetworks means uh, I like to build waterslides in my spare time.
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Whoops!!
Whoopsie!!
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Posted by: Hitlers Magic 8 Ball at August 10, 2019 02:24 PM (I7Qz+)
Then, if was Murder, was it a corrupt Guard? A prison gang member? Both? Each avenue suggests different levers of power. Would guess, for example, that a US-based powerful person (vs. foreign) would find it more easy to get prison gang involved. Corrupt guards, on the other hand, suggest money and could include any of the likely culprits.
Will be interesting if when they investigate, they will find "malfunctioning cameras," "bad records," "missing sign-in pages," and the like. Yea, murder happens in prisons, and not every inch is covered by surveillance, but come on... If a person murdered him, that person would surely be on cameras entering and exiting the building or the cell area or whatever, and others in path of the cameras.... Thus to pull it off, you need the cameras to go by-by. Evidence of THAT will strongly suggest organized murder, even if there is no other evidence.... But hey, thank GOD we're talking about the FBI doing the investigation. I hear Peter Strzok wants his job back. Maybe Jeff Sezzzzzions can supervise. Or Mueller.
Posted by: RichardWindsor at August 10, 2019 02:39 PM (ixZXQ)
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-
appalled-jeffrey-epstein-death
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Posted by: KTbarthedoor at August 10, 2019 03:59 PM (BVQ+1)
If mental health puts someone on a suicide watch there are various degrees of observation required.
One-On-One where the "client" is confined in a full-body wrap in a safety cell is the highest level of suicide watch.
Degrees of restraint and time of required observation are up to mental health or the watch commander. SOP varies from institution to institution.
Management hates one-on-one watches, because they either tie up a scheduled staff leaving the shift short-handed or they have to put on another staff to cover the suicide watch.
A common workaround is to get mental health to sign off on a five-minute watch. This allows them to run the shift without a dedicated suicide watch staffer. The problem is that five minute watches are unrealistic since staff is bare bones anyway, it is almost impossible for staff to complete their other duties and properly do a five-minute suicide watch.
It is a way to shift responsibility from management to adequately staff a facility to the already minimally staffed people working the floor.
Posted by: Waepnedmann at August 10, 2019 04:08 PM (pjQJE)
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Here's your trophy for Insight of the Month.
Posted by: Cicero (@cicero) at August 10, 2019 04:19 PM (c2kQz)
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Posted by: raimondo at August 10, 2019 04:10 PM (VpPqb)
If Trump actually pulled this off, wouldn't tater and cuomo be worried? I'm assuming not and anything they say about it is bullshit.
Posted by: Whatever at August 10, 2019 09:19 PM (2N7oZ)
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Posted by: ron n. at August 11, 2019 04:54 AM (om5HK)
But *I* say it's high time for a "national discussion" about "Common-sense Prison Control" laws.
Posted by: Ilion at August 11, 2019 06:54 PM (viTHX)
Assuming that the corpse in the cell *was* Epstein's.
There are so many ways for a potential conspiracy to go.
Posted by: Ilion at August 11, 2019 10:31 PM (viTHX)
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